From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 18 09:24:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F76A1065675 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:24:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198978FC13 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:24:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.133] (helo=smtp2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OaQ74-0007IH-Il for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:24:46 +0200 Received: from [84.25.59.18] (helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OaQ6y-0004xD-Ql for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:24:40 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F503983D for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:24:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C42C857.8020101@boosten.org> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:24:39 +0200 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1OaQ6y-0004xD-Ql X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-1.111, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_05 -1.11, SPF_PASS -0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Observations during upgrade 7.2 -> 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:24:48 -0000 Hi all, I recently upgraded several machines from 7.2 to 8.0 and I made a few observations: Two machines run on an ESX vmware server, and while interfaces started counting at 0 (ie le0, le1, etc), now these interfaces start at 1 (le0 -> le1, le1 -> le2). Is there any reason for 8.0 doing this, since it messed up a lot of things? During the upgrade of all the packages using portupgrade, the pkgdb.db got corrupted while upgrading ruby18-bdb, and interrupted the upgrade of all packages (using portupgrade -af). I've checked this by upgrading the port itself. Is this normal, and can it be prevented, like excluding it from portugrade -fa? TIA Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 18 14:27:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE101065670 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 14:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDEFE8FC12 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 14:27:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so1683770qwg.13 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 07:27:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=DWzvEL7kMlb1GYV0s46QhVBE9eQJM5wQSSNtDxplk/Y=; b=fC44Dzbfoe9UJWCAnUDockj0vG5oKxZp1hjPJ4FSjYTpPdtHR/NTwiGo+bkdrym35W I3sPXP4x9PddSVNMHMcTApjdLAfGXzIxGPvLPMmMgDVDEmUP/ZknRmleHqh4yGs3qflK O7YMP1nweCzJoMrcw2kKSULGMQk575XydHiNQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=v3/xUAYkQoo5BR5AzuimYMIjXLIjtzVNCQvcvUP2/7QgvPGMnb9trnL9ZxBrbKoZR7 BWR8igkrayyNO8mLCNQYWju+hDtlYZh1g47bzGaznrmFRmRlZfizxmtYJBYg5NuLOFWu PoWioHdzLJetwEbRg/3OVakO8xo5nftiJvIKA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.115.157 with SMTP id i29mr2964914qaq.262.1279463244736; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 07:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.67.132 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 07:27:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C4242BA.1040300@rawbw.com> References: <4C4242BA.1040300@rawbw.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 08:27:24 -0600 Message-ID: From: Modulok To: Yuri Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anybody can use webcam in skype in 8.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 14:27:26 -0000 I had a similar problem under linux the other day, if that helps. I ended up setting the LD_PRELOAD environment variable to modify how skype gets linked at runtime. In bash: LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype Again that's on linux, so it's probably not relevant, or even if it is, the shared object file will be in a different location. Sorry I'm not of much help. Maybe someone else can do better. -Moduok- On 7/17/10, Yuri wrote: > I am trying to make webcam work with skype. webcamd-0.1.14 creates > functioning device /dev/video0 that works in mplayer and pwcview. > > Skype complained that some VIDIOCAP flag is missing. So I applied the patch: > I patched kernel with this patch: linux_v4l.diff from > http://leidinger.net/FreeBSD/linuxolator/ and copied over > compat/linux/linux_videodev.h from the trunk. > > Skype now says there is vidio0 device, but video test fails and image > isn't passed to the peers. > > Did you succeed with video in skype? > > Yuri > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 18 16:01:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21757106567E for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:01:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFAE8FC17 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:01:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6IG1eCU059461; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:01:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4C432564.8050902@rawbw.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:01:40 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100708 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Modulok References: <4C4242BA.1040300@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anybody can use webcam in skype in 8.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:01:41 -0000 On 07/18/2010 07:27, Modulok wrote: > I had a similar problem under linux the other day, if that helps. I > ended up setting the LD_PRELOAD environment variable to modify how > skype gets linked at runtime. In bash: > > LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so > skype > > Again that's on linux, so it's probably not relevant, or even if it > is, the shared object file will be in a different location. > > Sorry I'm not of much help. Maybe someone else can do better. > -Moduok- > Thanks for this info. I noticed that there is no linux port for libv4l from which /usr/local/lib/libv4l2.so.0 comes. I am not sure now what skype is doing without it's Linux version, why it doesn't complain. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 18 16:33:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA52106566C for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:33:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robertames@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc4-s13.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s13.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E752F8FC15 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:33:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SNT131-W33 ([65.55.90.200]) by snt0-omc4-s13.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:21:42 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [76.182.233.189] From: Robert Ames To: Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 12:21:42 -0400 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2010 16:21:42.0067 (UTC) FILETIME=[4E96A830:01CB2695] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Digital camera for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:33:43 -0000 If such a thing does exist=2C can someone recommend a simple point and shoot digital camera that you can connect to a FreeBSD machine via a USB cable and have access to the images via a (presumably MS-DOS based) filesystem? Please CC me on responses as I'm not subscribed. Thanks. =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search=2C chat and e-mail from your inb= ox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID28326::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 18 17:06:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D681065687 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:06:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139A68FC12 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:06:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-139-120.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.139.120]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821961E40C; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:06:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o6IH6A89001888; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:06:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:06:10 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Robert Ames Message-Id: <20100718190610.90ea701e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Digital camera for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:06:19 -0000 On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 12:21:42 -0400, Robert Ames wrote: > > If such a thing does exist, can someone recommend a simple point > and shoot digital camera that you can connect to a FreeBSD machine > via a USB cable and have access to the images via a (presumably > MS-DOS based) filesystem? Let me first make sure that I answer correctly: I do interpret your question about a "point and shoot digital camera" as a question regarding a photo camera primarily, not a movie camera. I hope that's correct. Nearly all cameras work - either by accessing the FAT file system on the card (or internal memory), or by PTP commands - both should be standard, and some cameras can even be switched from one to the other standard. I own the following (digital) cameras, all working with FreeBSD (list position indicates quality, quite): - Canon PowerShot S3 IS - Kodak EasyShare CX6330 - HP PhotoSmart M407 - Mustek MDC 3500 - Aiptec Pencam (AEG Snap 300) Basically, you can use nearly ANY camera with FreeBSD. It's just important that at least ONE of the existing access standards is supported by the camera - USB direct storage access or PTP functionality. (I'm concentrating on USB cameras here, allthough Firewire based cameras should also work, but I don't own any, so I can't be more precise about this interface.) There's also a workaround you should know about: If the camera does NOT allow you to access its files through the camera, you often can eject a SD or CF card. Many PCs today include readers for those media. And if the reader complies to USB standards, it can be used with FreeBSD. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 18 17:15:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53696106566C for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from web113507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web113507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.167.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B5A88FC14 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 86847 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jul 2010 16:49:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1279471756; bh=9jt6busDQwrV7Om35EXp1mSqEAIcY735Yg0EmBBsIIk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CNGk0zrTInBKJ+tZEdI8k8/iFGCybfgCibEokTrOxJIjNtObM3P+wdzMxJ+6ht7okUDzfsrlmyLGUxO8WtQ+Js6tT8HV3+RdmpZgBmjWlQG8XNJ2i93jP464nl7wLDo2YvqUQWanG3jiCM0eUjm+yfUgY3c8sLBTYuorjnmW6KE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=hvsTz46iu2QaOTP1AUZ3Y8B3cfRDVpbIFwAUB3RhHFgL8iZc6bcBzuGcUO2veYa7lv7mwkIv527zvAXOMbT0+qy5ig6yGftktAMUhUqVHnJlkD9Eni7asrFwpKXe+cmVy/ehAMg/ebucWDEQ9EgAqF7j1rLaTdgi0cWpBxURH3c=; Message-ID: <912210.86576.qm@web113507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: PDwreQAVM1mOjxxueGfm67BW6he.473afMq7DZFtMXBEUYK KW0iaBQr8EiyLzvm6LKafnafW2MFxq31Ib6WGDGqX2DAOoybLqSqCk3sDwR2 yEMCG6XmpMH76dvIoExmx7_PCkTavRVWyQ3hkng31b7AldG1K1wx.QO8mlef FzozHcJSjqcK.fVWagAU3OIealQ23RC3XjQ4NAIO70ytkDJRsqXEpc0orD.s 7a.1RLno4WTOR_0JDv_oXo89Mq_pA576bLg_vd0_IcH2eBaR3fyJN_FKKrkg kUZFD14u2vHkIYz_CB.XwNwduROLNk63zy_qtRvAcYdhLJjjDNYvETmPhGH9 0ljqYWE5vuLPTJOZyyRi5ADWOIhcNrZy95cN184uohX04oT6LP6yVoOml Received: from [190.246.47.149] by web113507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:49:16 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.2.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:49:16 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Spanish keyboard in X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:15:59 -0000 Hi,I'm trying to configure spanish keyboard in FreeBsd 8.1-RC2 with no luck= , I've read many documents on the web, but they seem to be rather old, or a= ssume that the user has Gnome or KDE installed, I use Awesome WM.=0A=0AAny = hint?=0A=0ALeonardo M. Ram=E9=0Ahttp://leonardorame.blogspot.com=0A=0A=0A = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 18 17:19:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95551065672 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:19:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from extmail-01.people.net.au (extmail-01.people.net.au [202.154.123.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 07F988FC0A for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:19:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 16292 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2010 17:19:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) (218.215.179.69) by extmail-01.people.net.au with SMTP; 18 Jul 2010 17:19:02 -0000 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 460D7171B0; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 03:19:02 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 03:19:02 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: Robert Ames Message-ID: <20100718171902.GA83380@ozzmosis.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Digital camera for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:19:06 -0000 On Sun 2010-07-18 12:21:42 UTC-0400, Robert Ames (robertames@hotmail.com) wrote: > If such a thing does exist, can someone recommend a simple point > and shoot digital camera that you can connect to a FreeBSD machine > via a USB cable and have access to the images via a (presumably > MS-DOS based) filesystem? > > Please CC me on responses as I'm not subscribed. Thanks. Any camera that can act as a USB "mass storage device" should basically be plug-and-play in FreeBSD. Once such a camera is switched on it will behave essentially the same as a USB card reader, and you can you mount the flash memory card using mount_msdos. This web page shows how: http://www.freebsddiary.org/card-reader.php http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_mass-storage_device_class There are some cameras (eg. my Kodak C1013) that support Picture Transfer Protocol (PTP) over USB, instead of acting as a mountable mass storage device. For PTP-only cameras you can use gPhoto (graphics/gphoto2 in Ports) to copy the images and videos to your PC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picture_Transfer_Protocol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPhoto I believe F-Spot (graphics/f-spot) also supports PTP cameras. Another option (for both types of cameras) is of course to use a USB card reader, removing the flash memory card from the camera each time you want to access your images. It's somewhat cumbersome to do this each time, although it's good to have a card reader anyway in emergencies when the camera's batteries have inevitably gone flat. Good luck, Regards Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 18 17:36:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D831065675 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:36:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CAD8FC12 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-139-120.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.139.120]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51433E4C6; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:36:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o6IHabPD001999; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:36:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:36:37 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Leonardo M. =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ram=E9?=" Message-Id: <20100718193637.a861d7dc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <912210.86576.qm@web113507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <912210.86576.qm@web113507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spanish keyboard in X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:36:40 -0000 On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:49:16 -0700 (PDT), Leonardo M. Ram=E9 wrote: > Hi,I'm trying to configure spanish keyboard in FreeBsd 8.1-RC2 > with no luck, I've read many documents on the web, but they seem > to be rather old, or assume that the user has Gnome or KDE > installed, I use Awesome WM. >=20 > Any hint? What's wrong about the "old-fashioned" way of using xorg.conf as a central means of X configuration? :-) Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "de" Option "AutoRepeat" "250 30" EndSection Of course, you have to set the correct codes for spanish layout (setting XkbLayout), it should be "es". --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 18 18:32:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C251065670 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:32:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from web113510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web113510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.167.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3333A8FC15 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:32:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 44035 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jul 2010 18:32:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1279477925; bh=wYElNdtb8yOSavg5LzSeQA058+kDnnW0ejiY7PxCIQM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=yI5iGsVSF0BoMkB4HDFF0penbZgfwYc3cE14l9buSJ28ObIPDELm5zJVgVHnavAGWa5IdTbokXz+IaVZL+Ujk5jwC3QjOLJCIooRrdfbA0TDWNG+g9Zr4J211ldV7GUEYNlQw6+Rz7KmNNXMOZ+20tC+1/S8lBAdd/akiKOlJto= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=NlXpq1+/IlXTsDDjvhgOhd/9n5fJTbZKACFdpF+ve1dr/ftE3aSmgz8G13AnzX9uY7ohsAr0Yuji8a3dT0XdifnOgmpd5yFwznrR7/7tamqQwXL+CfuSf0B/UATpmHcBjqC8C4p0vk4J2eHRJwikXV4p8Iw8yGDbgk3lt7aqquA=; Message-ID: <594855.43631.qm@web113510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: jYCm0gIVM1kLoiJuISVpuKTsi.aKxkr.koKEGJIL0J.t8GF 4b8N1A2I2BA8SuO.m6Xc71LPLULhOod9jbP9K82kd8tuwLvq8phmGCEz0GSm jR_Hmq0m.ueGspYAb9SPTjm1.ZHRlC1AHd2VwIBxf4.YCUSYv8U3D_4Dz2hH wMLSjBBD2__LLSAcXOYndU_ydDoHCuJhkciZAdIcpXHBk2m5TkbuZX74CcFp fMEqqNoTUq1eRsxL1EI075cW6jUAHkPXi6Nddq3cF3Tp4o856RWjIhQQRVxd U8ytkiuLcPRb4v6gRm9UfOSEfuyLZqVnkm_UkrIl2eOHVAIVhDAI1DHj.iqt Qs4iAJ6mV8wBDg8H.IFWoxlre Received: from [190.246.47.149] by web113510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:32:05 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.2.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:32:05 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20100718193637.a861d7dc.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Spanish keyboard in X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:32:06 -0000 Yes,I have modified xorg.conf the same way as you mentioned.=0A=0AAnyway, n= ow the problem is solved by adding "setxkbmap es &" to my .xsession=0A=0ATh= anks.=0A=0ALeonardo M. Ram=E9=0Ahttp://leonardorame.blogspot.com=0A=0A=0A--= - On Sun, 7/18/10, Polytropon wrote:=0A=0A> From: Polytr= opon =0A> Subject: Re: Spanish keyboard in X=0A> To: "Leo= nardo M. Ram=E9" =0A> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.o= rg=0A> Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 2:36 PM=0A> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:49:1= 6 -0700=0A> (PDT), Leonardo M. Ram=E9 =0A> wrote:=0A>= > Hi,I'm trying to configure spanish keyboard in FreeBsd=0A> 8.1-RC2=0A> >= with no luck, I've read many documents on the web, but=0A> they seem=0A> >= to be rather old, or assume that the user has Gnome or=0A> KDE=0A> > insta= lled, I use Awesome WM.=0A> > =0A> > Any hint?=0A> =0A> What's wrong about = the "old-fashioned" way of using=0A> xorg.conf as=0A> a central means of X = configuration? :-)=0A> =0A> Section "InputDevice"=0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Ident= ifier=A0 =A0 =A0=0A> "Keyboard0"=0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Driver=A0 =A0 =A0=0A> = =A0 =A0 "kbd"=0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Option=A0 =A0 =A0=0A> =A0 =A0 "XkbModel"= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=0A> =A0 =A0 "pc105"=0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Option=A0 =A0 = =A0=0A> =A0 =A0 "XkbLayout"=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=0A> =A0=A0=A0"de"=0A> =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 Option=A0 =A0 =A0=0A> =A0 =A0 "AutoRepeat"=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =0A> =A0 "250 30"=0A> EndSection=0A> =0A> Of course, you have to set the co= rrect codes for spanish=0A> layout=0A> (setting XkbLayout), it should be "e= s".=0A> =0A> =0A> -- =0A> Polytropon=0A> Magdeburg, Germany=0A> Happy FreeB= SD user since 4.0=0A> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...=0A> =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 18 18:45:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F065D1065674 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.167.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A62628FC15 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:45:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32383 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jul 2010 18:45:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1279478741; bh=q/+SfTV+9RPG1vpZ1Tvx0yU+1TZiBMHBFbHOz2LeJAo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Ob1wisO5+9+hmFqvWpfFYiTHU0xcIRU3xvCCKriN6XHPqexEV4+S69PPu73Fs+ZGp8RVQA88jVhEwIvhtThm55BBS+QJDxyp3ivS8fAv3qIRAKUeUyW4tm9/fq1+3DqvBphnYCbAYGL1eu4w6TP5z9Yj3u/0+EnNMahVXIOFRas= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=r/q5OC0UvpA5Ct6KhHEia8Ll0kDTq7YpkPD6vneKvoTOuLCJUEks9rp9RaTPFdgc6tIlwpRXDfMmU85qbrNjej4BLmqlBi91TmskSMW8UhX31akR9Tu1RVz3tUzpVW8Tyjt0cHIVOzaMzGIatMcftAaF0Nr9VjylmD7ZS9jPcxw=; Message-ID: <181707.32227.qm@web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: owqkZ78VM1m948ZIxDLxBoILqEVPxZ1PvXZkJVvADruSFoa s711SZrGUZwaMGJMNpFl3h8uq1Cyr19W6LSQmai2td4m_7OVkzAl2nvBd_uT A4aSRU7yHmBSNgJQTZe21Dz5UWnuLaNOWIgtqvWKwQjdE_bMKgwx3YVr11I5 tzCY5.HNaI.PMbKZaLOWwPXe1uvMKGgGSakL1ynYtYa4qNaGE5rSFThdI569 4wqxtYDx2eGPuDqi9xSUptsL1Irvh7C8FVV8M_gO8FvFlnrlac2VUMF9mqnm vxvyRGM_5O_sGrHMBL7y8zbsHXrFXbMhFlTEDcFNOpgs9ZMWBsUwYskwK9mZ FkbYqZraVAa8LGxwD.P761kHWYWMJ9BcxuD1RwP6R.QGo16SuKhzrNEox Received: from [190.246.47.149] by web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:45:40 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.2.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:45:40 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: utf8 characters in terminal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:45:42 -0000 Hi, I installed Freebsd 8.1-RC2 in my home server to be used mainly as a fi= le server, it used to have Ubuntu 9.10-Server installed on it, then I backe= d up (.tar.gz) the /home directory, that contains many spanish accented fil= es and subdirectories in UTF8.=0A=0ANow, when I access this machine using s= sh, some of those files include "??" and "\303" or similar characters inste= ad of the correct accents.=0A=0AWhat can I do to show the files in the corr= ect way?.=0A=0ALeonardo M. Ram=E9=0Ahttp://leonardorame.blogspot.com=0A=0A= =0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 18 19:34:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6E3106566B for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:34:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from smtprelay04.ispgateway.de (smtprelay04.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E9708FC15 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [93.135.222.254] (helo=yeti.mininet) by smtprelay04.ispgateway.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1OaZSr-0002QY-Od for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:23:53 +0200 X-Mailer: emacs 23.1.1 (via feedmail 8 I); VM 8.0.14 under 23.1.1 (i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) From: "Markus Hoenicka" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19523.21705.648520.937010@yeti.mininet> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:23:53 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Df-Sender: 472582 Subject: Emacs splash screen went to textmode only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:34:38 -0000 Hi, I've recently updated Emacs to the latest version (23.2_2,2 from 23.1.1) along with all dependencies. Since then, the startup screen when running in an X window shows b/w text only like in the days of yore. Not that the startup screen graphics are that important, but things that don't work as expected tend to make me nervous. According to startup.el, the following variables affect what is shown at startup. Evaluating them in the scratch buffer looks like this: inhibit-startup-screen nil initial-buffer-choice nil That is, the startup screen *should* be displayed, or am I missing something here? The interesting thing is that nothing else about the startup screen appears broken. If I evaluate (fancy-startup-screen) in the scratch buffer, i.e. the function which actually displays the startup screen, Emacs faithfully does so, including the graphics and all bells and whistles. Has anything fundamentally changed between these versions? Does Emacs think it runs in a terminal? Any clues would be greatly appreciated. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 18 20:42:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB86106566B for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:42:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621138FC13 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:42:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2438 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2010 20:42:34 -0000 Received: from dsl081-163-112.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO ringbill.gull.us) ([64.81.163.112]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 18 Jul 2010 20:42:34 -0000 Received: from alphonse ([192.168.10.9] helo=alphonse.gull.us) by ringbill.gull.us with esmtpa (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Oaagv-0000Os-0B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 13:42:29 -0700 Message-Id: From: David Brodbeck To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <6341639666e4d0c65cd1b29a89e64beb.squirrel@www.gull.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 13:42:30 -0700 References: <80AD3593-1170-4346-A4EE-4274085D6570@gull.us> <001501cb1db5$b3db2240$1b9166c0$@wakefield.sch.uk> <6341639666e4d0c65cd1b29a89e64beb.squirrel@www.gull.us> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: Samba gives "invalid PT_PHDR" after upgrading from 7.2-RELEASE to 7.3-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:42:35 -0000 On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:12 AM, David Brodbeck wrote: > On Wed, July 7, 2010 2:20 am, mcoyles wrote: >>> Today I tried using "portupgrade -R -f samba34" to rebuild samba >>> and all >>> of its dependencies, but I'm still getting the same error. I'm a >>> little >>> surprised that a minor version upgrade broke this so thoroughly. >>> I went >>> back over the release notes to see if I missed any obvious caveats >>> about >>> upgrading, but if I did, I'm not seeing it. >> >> David - have a look here... >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2010-April/016405.html > > OK, I see. It looks like rtld is part of world, not a port, so then > the > question becomes, why didn't freebsd-update update it for me? Is > there a > way I can force a binary upgrade, or do I need to download the > source and > rebuild things that way? I ended up downloading the 7.3 livefs ISO, booting off of it, and replacing /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 with the one from the CD. That fixed the problem. I suspect the reason freebsd-update didn't upgrade it properly is it appears it's impossible to replace this file on a running system, even in single-user mode. Maybe there should be something in the release notes about a 7.2 -> 7.3 upgrade being impossible to do properly except by booting from CD? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 18 22:37:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2C51065676 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 22:37:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnmtw@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from mailgw9.surf-town.net (mail8.surf-town.net [212.97.132.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE0C8FC1D for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 22:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mailgw9.surf-town.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 069109B5C3; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:37:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw9.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1E19B5C7; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:37:26 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailgw9.surf-town.net X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=[RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] Received: from mailgw9.surf-town.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw9.surf-town.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id c9zpnxXFLvp0; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:37:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lazlar.kicks-ass.net (c-b486e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.227.134.180]) by mailgw9.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F17D9B5CA; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:36:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C438201.2050602@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:36:49 +0200 From: Rolf G Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100706 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100718190610.90ea701e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100718190610.90ea701e.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Robert Ames , Polytropon Subject: Re: Digital camera for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 22:37:29 -0000 2010-07-18 19:06, Polytropon skrev: > On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 12:21:42 -0400, Robert Ames wrote: >> >> If such a thing does exist, can someone recommend a simple point >> and shoot digital camera that you can connect to a FreeBSD machine >> via a USB cable and have access to the images via a (presumably >> MS-DOS based) filesystem? > > Let me first make sure that I answer correctly: I do interpret your > question about a "point and shoot digital camera" as a question > regarding a photo camera primarily, not a movie camera. I hope > that's correct. > > Nearly all cameras work - either by accessing the FAT file system > on the card (or internal memory), or by PTP commands - both should > be standard, and some cameras can even be switched from one to the > other standard. > > I own the following (digital) cameras, all working with FreeBSD > (list position indicates quality, quite): > - Canon PowerShot S3 IS > - Kodak EasyShare CX6330 > - HP PhotoSmart M407 > - Mustek MDC 3500 > - Aiptec Pencam (AEG Snap 300) > > Basically, you can use nearly ANY camera with FreeBSD. It's just > important that at least ONE of the existing access standards is > supported by the camera - USB direct storage access or PTP > functionality. > > (I'm concentrating on USB cameras here, allthough Firewire based > cameras should also work, but I don't own any, so I can't be more > precise about this interface.) > > There's also a workaround you should know about: If the camera > does NOT allow you to access its files through the camera, you > often can eject a SD or CF card. Many PCs today include readers > for those media. And if the reader complies to USB standards, it > can be used with FreeBSD. > > > My Casio Exilim EX-S12 works perfectly, and identifies itself as a USB Mass Storage device, i.e. it gets a daX device node in /dev. I used to have an Olympus SP-500UZ, which also worked perfectly as a USB Mass Storage device. Neither of those are current models, but I doubt that either Casio or Olympus have stopped supporting USB Mass Storage (IIRC the Casio can be set to either USB Mass Storage or PTP). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 00:04:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5935D1065678 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433D78FC14 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:04:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id jbmo1e0050cQ2SLACbrPtE; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:51:23 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.9] ([76.113.183.74]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id jbrL1e0081cjQTw8WbrM8n; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:51:22 +0000 From: Ryan Coleman Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:51:20 -0500 Message-Id: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Radio Shark 2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:04:33 -0000 Does anyone have an experience getting the Radio Shark 2 set up? I'm = hoping to use it for radio streaming in my apartment.=20 I've found shark2.c on the net and gcc is failing to compile it; I'm a = PHP developer with a lot of admin time on FreeBSD (8-RELEASE, AMD64 = build presently) but can't get my head around that piece. root@server /usr/local/include]# gcc -g -o shark2 -lhid shark2.c In file included from shark2.c:21: /usr/include/hid.h:6:23: error: hidparser.h: No such file or directory In file included from shark2.c:21: /usr/include/hid.h:69: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before = 'HIDData' shark2.c: In function 'main': shark2.c:98: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in = function 'exit' shark2.c:102: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in = function 'exit' [[Basically it's not finding hidparser.h - I get that - but it isn't = checking paths to look for it or I just can't seem to set any new search = paths -R]] ::::::: contents of shark2.c ::::::: /* This souce code written my Michael Rolig (email: = michael_rolig@alumni.macalester.edu) * This can be considered to be in the public domain */ /* Modified for Radio Shark2 2007-05-11 * This souce code written my Hisaaki Shibata (email: shibata@luky.org) * This can be considered to be in the public domain */ #define DEBUG false /* Set true for copious debugging output = */ #define SHARK_VENDID 0x077d /* Griffin's Vendor ID */ #define SHARK_DEVID 0x627a /* The radioSHARK's Device ID */ #define READ_EP 0x5 /* libhid read command? */ #define WRITE_EP 0x5 /* libhid write command? */ #define SEND_PACKET_LENGTH 7 /* size of an instruction packet: = shark2=3D7 */ #include #include #include #include void usage(int argc, const char** argv) { printf("%s \n\tchange state of radioSHARK\n\n", = argv[0]); printf("commands:\n" " -fm : set FM frequency, e.g. '-fm = 91.5'\n" " -am : set AM frequency, e.g. '-am = 730'\n" " -blue : turn on blue LED (0-127) '-blue = 127'\n" " -red <0/1> : turn on/off red LED '-red 1'\n"); } int main(int argc, const char** argv) { /* Declare variables used later */ hid_return ret; HIDInterface* hid; HIDInterfaceMatcher matcher =3D { SHARK_VENDID, SHARK_DEVID, = NULL, NULL, 0 }; /* Build the instruction packet to send to the shark */ unsigned char PACKET[SEND_PACKET_LENGTH] =3D { 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, = 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00 }; unsigned short encodedFreq; float freq; unsigned int intensity; if (argc =3D=3D 3) { if (strcmp(argv[1], "-fm") =3D=3D 0) { /* Tune to an FM frequency */ PACKET[0] =3D 0x81; encodedFreq =3D 0; freq =3D atof(argv[2]); encodedFreq =3D ((freq * 10 * 2) - 3 ); PACKET[1] =3D (encodedFreq >> 8) & 0xFF; PACKET[2] =3D encodedFreq & 0xFF; PACKET[3] =3D 0x33; PACKET[4] =3D 0x04; PACKET[5] =3D 0x00; PACKET[6] =3D 0x28; if (DEBUG) { printf("band =3D fm\n"); printf("freq =3D %.1f\n", freq); printf("encoded freq =3D 0x%x\n", = (unsigned int)encodedFreq); } } else if (strcmp(argv[1], "-am") =3D=3D 0) { /* Tune to an AM frequency */ PACKET[0] =3D 0x81; encodedFreq =3D 0; freq =3D (float)atoi(argv[2]); encodedFreq =3D ((unsigned short)freq * 4 ) + = 16300; PACKET[1] =3D (encodedFreq >> 8) & 0xFF; PACKET[2] =3D encodedFreq & 0xFF; PACKET[3] =3D 0xF3; PACKET[4] =3D 0x36; PACKET[5] =3D 0x00; PACKET[6] =3D 0x24; if (DEBUG) { printf("band =3D am\n"); printf("freq =3D %d\n", (unsigned = int)freq); printf("encoded freq =3D 0x%x\n", = (unsigned int)encodedFreq); } } else if (strcmp(argv[1], "-blue") =3D=3D 0) { /* Adjust the blue LED */ intensity =3D atoi(argv[2]); PACKET[0] =3D 0x83; PACKET[1] =3D (char)intensity; } else if (strcmp(argv[1], "-bblue") =3D=3D 0) { /* Adjust the blue LED's pulsing rate */ intensity =3D atoi(argv[2]); PACKET[0] =3D 0xA1; PACKET[1] =3D (char)intensity; } else if (strcmp(argv[1], "-red") =3D=3D 0) { /* Toggle the red LED */ intensity =3D atoi(argv[2]); if (intensity) PACKET[0] =3D 0x84; else PACKET[0] =3D 0x84; PACKET[1] =3D (char)intensity; } else { /* Bad command - display the program's usage = instructions */ usage(argc, argv); exit(1); } } else { usage(argc, argv); exit(1); } /* Turn libhid debugging on if requested. See include/debug.h = for possible values. */ if (DEBUG) { hid_set_debug(HID_DEBUG_ALL); hid_set_debug_stream(stderr); hid_set_usb_debug(0); /* passed = directly to libusb */ } /* Initialize the hid library */ ret =3D hid_init(); if (ret !=3D HID_RET_SUCCESS) { fprintf(stderr, "hid_init failed with return code %d\n", = ret); return 1; } /* Initialize the hid object */ hid =3D hid_new_HIDInterface(); if (hid =3D=3D 0) { fprintf(stderr, "hid_new_HIDInterface() failed, out of = memory?\n"); return 1; } /* Open the shark */ ret =3D hid_force_open(hid, 2, &matcher, 3); if (ret !=3D HID_RET_SUCCESS) { fprintf(stderr, "hid_force_open failed with return code = %d\n", ret); return 1; } /* Send the instruction packet constructed above to the Shark */ ret =3D hid_interrupt_write(hid, WRITE_EP, (char*)PACKET, = SEND_PACKET_LENGTH, 10000); if (ret !=3D HID_RET_SUCCESS) fprintf(stderr, = "hid_interrupt_write failed with return code %d\n", ret); /* Close the shark */ ret =3D hid_close(hid); if (ret !=3D HID_RET_SUCCESS) { fprintf(stderr, "hid_close failed with return code %d\n", = ret); return 1; } /* Delete the hid object */ hid_delete_HIDInterface(&hid); /* Clean up the hid library */ ret =3D hid_cleanup(); if (ret !=3D HID_RET_SUCCESS) { fprintf(stderr, "hid_cleanup failed with return code = %d\n", ret); return 1; } return 0; } From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 01:45:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F5C106566B for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:45:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3C58FC0A for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:45:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6J1jpx3077208 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:45:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4C43AE4D.80501@rawbw.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:45:49 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100708 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Is there a script to upgrade i386 system to amd64 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:45:52 -0000 Since this is something that potentially almost everyone would need at least once this should be made very easy for the end user. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 02:43:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296721065675 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 02:43:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A1A8FC13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 02:43:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id o6J2hWZM008944 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:43:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6J2hWwa029573 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:43:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o6J2hWOA029572; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:43:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:43:31 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Yuri Message-ID: <20100719024331.GK5485@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4C43AE4D.80501@rawbw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C43AE4D.80501@rawbw.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:43:32 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there a script to upgrade i386 system to amd64 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 02:43:36 -0000 In the last episode (Jul 18), Yuri said: > Since this is something that potentially almost everyone would need at > least once this should be made very easy for the end user. When I did it, I believe I just made copies of /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib to ../lib32 (so 32-bit ports would still work), installed the 64-bit kernel and world, rebooted, then upgraded all the ports over a week or so. I was running zfs so I made a snapshot of the 32-bit system as it was just before the install. A 64-bit buildworld and GENERIC kernel both default to enabling 32-bit support and compat libraries, and I believe a 64-bit kernel will boot and run a 32-bit world, so compatibility is good. Just be aware that binary file formats for programs installed via ports may differ, so things like rrdtool datafiles and mysql databases will need to be dumped to text form and reloaded. That's where the 32-bit snapshot came in handy (so I had access to the 32-bit binaries after my port upgrades finished and could dump using old binaries then reload using the new ones as I discovered problems). -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 02:52:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6531065670 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 02:52:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC598FC08 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 02:51:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2536D3A3870; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:36:47 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1279507006; x= 1281321406; bh=QQ3uwn9gSjojhO3WXfTZ2yn6mXPVGWhHHvKd0VKoVUs=; b=k S1/fQ5QooqLjw8lDMVpN5BfKGylBFYdNGS2Xs8IM/6uFHMo10StifaZ9DJVJ4lpd /Z0enLeyYsYq9BC652Fn1xatdNkHfBA1k5hU+GK8hfFV1crQR44NHiOsQGf17uf8 BYG8GoWIzXw7jwYjIKWbuE5aW/cwL+Y++JQ98vg2PU= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id vF8fQNsZ3xTy; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:36:46 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC0703A386C; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:36:46 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o6J2aZN9035978; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:36:35 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:36:35 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <201007190236.o6J2aZN9035978@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: yuri@rawbw.com In-reply-to: <4C43AE4D.80501@rawbw.com> (message from Yuri on Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:45:49 -0700) References: <4C43AE4D.80501@rawbw.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there a script to upgrade i386 system to amd64 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 02:52:00 -0000 Hi > Since this is something that potentially almost everyone would need at > least once this should be made very easy for the end user. I am not sure what you mean. I have penty of machines that are 32 bits and simply cannot run 64 bits. If I ever replace one 32 bits machines with a 64 bits new machine, I will simply re-install everything from scratch, it's safer (can run the 2 machines in parallel until the new on eis ready) and simplier, and gives me opportunity for a good cleanup (I will not reinstall all the bits and pieces that I only installed for testing purpose and never used after that). Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 03:15:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F2C1065670 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 03:15:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmcgrew1@mail.csuchico.edu) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D548FC1E for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 03:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so5217109iwn.13 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.173.145 with SMTP id p17mr5149402ibz.32.1279507507305; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:45:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.150.196 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:44:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael McGrew Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:44:46 -0700 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: samba pam_smbpass & passwd seg fault X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 03:15:28 -0000 I'm trying to sync the local unix account passwords to the samba smbpass db using pam. When i run passwd, after it's done it seg faults and produces a core dump. The odd thing is that it works, the users local unix password gets synced to the smbpass db, but it seg faults. Below are my relevant config files. Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong? /usr/local/etc/smb.conf security = user passdb backend = smbpasswd cat /etc/pam.d/passwd # # $FreeBSD: src/etc/pam.d/passwd,v 1.3.36.1 2010/02/10 00:26:20 kensmith Exp $ # # PAM configuration for the "passwd" service # # passwd(1) does not use the auth, account or session services. # password #password requisite pam_passwdqc.so enforce=users password required pam_unix.so no_warn try_first_pass nullok password optional /usr/local/lib/pam_smbpass.so try_first_pass smbconf=/usr/local/etc/smb.conf [root@localhost ~]# passwd Changing local password for root New Password: Retype New Password: Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 03:27:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21361065674 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 03:27:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948FB8FC0A for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 03:27:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o6J3QvqL022578; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 22:26:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 22:26:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <201007190326.o6J3QvqL022578@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Has anybody got a *working* example of getpwnam_r() ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 03:27:34 -0000 I've _got_ to be doing something wrong, sine I'm getting heap corruption calling it. But for the life of me, I can't figure out -what- is wrong. What I've got makes "a whole lot of no sense" -- I get corruption of the _same_ malloc()'d data structure (at *exactly* the same offset into the structure!!) on both 7.2 i386 and 8.0 amd64 releases (on different hardware). Unfortunately thee is a _lot_ of code, including significant use of of malloc()/free() that attempmting to whittle things down to a minimal test case would be very awkward. right now, I've got the corruption at a 'known' place, but no cluse as to -how- it's happening -- available evidence seems to exclude everything passed _into_ getwpnam_r(). the offending call is : getpwnam_r(cp3, &pw_data, buffer2, sizeof(buffer2), &pwd); data declaration at the beginning of the function: char buffer[1024]; char buffer2[1024]; char mailbox[1024]; *cp,*cp2,*cp3,*cp4 = buffer; struct passwd pw_data,pw_data2,*pwd=&pw_data2; int i; The whole program is around 2500 lines of code and headers, with, as mentioined, _lots_ of malloc()/free() activity, I can put ut it up on my web-server, if somebody really wants to dig. I've tried changing the size of buffer2 to 8kb, in case I was over-running the 1k buffer. ((unfortunately the mmanpage does _not_ specify a minimum size for the buffer) I've tried declaring buffer2 _and_ the 'struct passwd' items as 'static', so that _if_ the corruption was coming from one of those addresses, the corruption *should* move. *NONE* of those changes made _any_ differnce in where the corruption was occuring, or _what_ was being written there. I'm *really* baffled. HELP!!! <*whimper*> _what_ stuff shows up _does_ differ between the 7.2 and 8.0 systems, 8.0 reliably produces 116 bytes corrupted: [gdb command: x/112 &private_data_pointer->remotehostname 0x40a0e070: 103 'g' 114 'r' 111 'o' 117 'u' 112 'p' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0x40a0e078: 99 'c' 111 'o' 109 'm' 112 'p' 97 'a' 116 't' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0x40a0e080: 99 'c' 111 'o' 109 'm' 112 'p' 97 'a' 116 't' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0x40a0e088: 104 'h' 111 'o' 115 's' 116 't' 115 's' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0x40a0e090: 102 'f' 105 'i' 108 'l' 101 'e' 115 's' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0x40a0e098: 102 'f' 105 'i' 108 'l' 101 'e' 115 's' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0x40a0e0a0: 102 'f' 105 'i' 108 'l' 101 'e' 115 's' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0x40a0e0a8: 112 'p' 97 'a' 115 's' 115 's' 119 'w' 100 'd' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0x40a0e0b0: 99 'c' 111 'o' 109 'm' 112 'p' 97 'a' 116 't' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0x40a0e0b8: 115 's' 104 'h' 101 'e' 108 'l' 108 'l' 115 's' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0x40a0e0c0: 102 'f' 105 'i' 108 'l' 101 'e' 115 's' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0x40a0e0c8: 99 'c' 111 'o' 109 'm' 112 'p' 97 'a' 116 't' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0x40a0e0d0: 102 'f' 105 'i' 108 'l' 101 'e' 115 's' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0x40a0e0d8: 102 'f' 105 'i' 108 'l' 101 'e' 115 's' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 7.2 produces 64 bytes corrupted: [gdb command: x/112 &private_data_pointer->remotehostname 0x2820b098: 100 'd' 110 'n' 115 's' 0 '\0' 110 'n' 105 'i' 115 's' 0 '\0' 0x2820b0a0: 110 'n' 105 'i' 115 's' 0 '\0' 114 'r' 112 'p' 99 'c' 0 '\0' 0x2820b0a8: 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0x2820b0b0: 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0x2820b0b8: 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0x2820b0c0: 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 3 '\003' 0 '\0' 8 '\b' 0 '\0' 0x2820b0c8: 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0x2820b0d0: 2 '\002' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' This stuff looks like it -might- be fromm a nsswitch.conf parse. I dunno. anybody got _any_ ideas? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 03:33:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 343E9106566C for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 03:33:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wahjava@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C578FC08 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 03:33:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvh1 with SMTP id 1so1739193pvh.13 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:33:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:received:from:to:cc :subject:organization:references:x-face:x-uptime:x-url :x-operating-system:x-openpgp-id:x-openpgp-fingerprint:x-mailer :x-mail-morse:x-attribution:organisation:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:face:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=whb9p0e9VN/+nIRXpYRc8xyn2Lm3VMsAjO+GUohd2I8=; b=Amj2t3G41FwAD4dKhVEf44qr0vAxlOVfDFPpBqQlkL1Wl6Nkj/fnsNy6Pc3/qCO9ry V3xU0xPqrqYnhYlfwcF3PWaXp1PGv6gKakypEalso/hpwcbiuBjtQ3quBYYRyEaUkjcK CghaWjM1Da/aYQcqMGe3o7BakLKQJVu0vGDg8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:x-face:x-uptime :x-url:x-operating-system:x-openpgp-id:x-openpgp-fingerprint :x-mailer:x-mail-morse:x-attribution:organisation:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=tQNHCOa1WTdAvKi0gucfFLyBaYwfBOYknonkp49zBMKikvzo5ggj0S8AN4iBqEolUW ShFHY39nkg0XkW35qXet1z5xsUOLJg/bh4NB/YUsH0rOl15bJLxO3RA1/8DS5x+9KN+I +i5Ou/HvleU7OObedysA6l7I+wAvebDaJeR8U= Received: by 10.142.140.18 with SMTP id n18mr5875034wfd.151.1279510424459; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chateau.d.if ([122.163.157.223]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 33sm5902512wfd.6.2010.07.18.20.33.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:33:43 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Ashish SHUKLA Received: from chateau.d.if (chateau.d.if [127.0.0.1]) by chateau.d.if (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5252D8027; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:03:36 +0530 (IST) From: ashish@FreeBSD.org (Ashish SHUKLA) To: "Markus Hoenicka" Organization: The FreeBSD Project References: <19523.21705.648520.937010@yeti.mininet> X-Face: )vGQ9yK7Y$Flebu1C>(B\gYBm)[$zfKM+p&TT[[JWl6:]S>cc$%-z7-`46Zf0B*syL.C]oCq[upTG~zuS0.$"_%)|Q@$hA=9{3l{%u^h3jJ^Zl; t7 X-Uptime: 09:01:15 up 21 min, 1 user, load average: 0.06, 0.22, 0.29 X-URL: http://762e5e74.wordpress.com/ X-Operating-System: GNU/Linux/Linux 2.6.34-ARCH/x86_64 X-OpenPGP-ID: E74FA4B0 X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: F682 CDCC 39DC 0FEA E116 20B6 C746 CFA9 E74F A4B0 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.13 X-Mail-Morse: .-- .- .... .--- .- ...- .- .--.-. --. -- .- .. .-.. .-.-.- -.-. --- -- X-Attribution: =?utf-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3?= Organisation: The FreeBSD Project Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:03:36 +0530 In-Reply-To: <19523.21705.648520.937010@yeti.mininet> (Markus Hoenicka's message of "Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:23:53 +0200") Message-ID: <86eif0xi0f.fsf@chateau.d.if> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJ1BMVEWpqal/f39tbW1jY2Md HR2goKCenp6UlJROTk7////9/f35+fnT09ORJdieAAACVklEQVQ4jXXUP2vbQBQA8AvUTkgz5OzY Z0iGWhpS6BSrkECn0mvx0MEJ6AjtYrfoBCVDlD8naJYmNlRfwZq8+mkKlIZaGpJSYmP7Q/XkJDrJ Td8i/H68u3vHPaPufwLdf32AMA4A6GcAgvAamY1pOJiDIFqicTwLswDhfr3uxfFtkAY/GFHPMwzD 8zpnACmIOnE6js7rQb+v4NJrG9od0C+QgpHMy5jBewV+UDSMWiw1Y4fWfyV7+NGFzDsYa3pth9LJ Q4XvXxFHcJRvHOmygn5NAEabnDcQQguarnfoiwSCJ99jmKKcphsZONmWsDK9Ro7cvZOCtQdg8nje egLhc2LNlkLmsezzTFUUy5w18ocox/f0LaLgJy0zO75zk+9pp85GAj36xjqhdI0y3tq2m4dqqcWX zQWBTz8L1irvolXV4J+3q7eCDgVnttjNq6X8H+9KOZsuNk1uCzx8pSp+E9HImfJOTLdcGqo+YKnG EIovizkEn48V7BO+ch2DXcD4ENSpWiU+q8hjjbgTBZCXnZtyj0Ws4Q1Q0B2WXFtYZo65Bbyeeldw RS6qFueM80LlLA29YlVwGRYvFD+kwI/0O+A2PlpOP9GwslUVciHuYGechuBTp922YiDZCrghTknm XSyOM+D3aoRZlo0Jb42zY7DN4p2x4AeZ+QAYutx1sHwTHzMT5cMNduQ9yW3GczN4KZ86kb0c9O8T yXDeFqpl2fryPEAYGXIlezAPXYh2NgVr/gvdoHIuDwuPwOhcWE8f8mmICq41eATkn8x0kuRTIKcB wE9+/QUtiiAnYcaN7wAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Emacs splash screen went to textmode only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 03:33:46 -0000 Hi Markus, Markus Hoenicka writes: > Hi, > I've recently updated Emacs to the latest version (23.2_2,2 from > 23.1.1) along with all dependencies. Since then, the startup screen > when running in an X window shows b/w text only like in the days of > yore. Not that the startup screen graphics are that important, but > things that don't work as expected tend to make me nervous. Can you upload the screenshot of what you're getting ? > According to startup.el, the following variables affect what is shown > at startup. Evaluating them in the scratch buffer looks like this: > inhibit-startup-screen > nil > initial-buffer-choice > nil > That is, the startup screen *should* be displayed, or am I missing > something here? > The interesting thing is that nothing else about the startup screen > appears broken. If I evaluate > (fancy-startup-screen) > in the scratch buffer, i.e. the function which actually displays the > startup screen, Emacs faithfully does so, including the graphics and > all bells and whistles. > Has anything fundamentally changed between these versions? Does Emacs > think it runs in a terminal? Any clues would be greatly appreciated. Can you try starting Emacs in X11 with following command: #v+ % emacs -q --no-site-file #v- Thanks -- Ashish SHUKLA | GPG: F682 CDCC 39DC 0FEA E116 20B6 C746 CFA9 E74F A4B0 freebsd.org!ashish | http://people.freebsd.org/~ashish/ “We've so many people in India, that we're able to route each network packet manually.†(nobotz) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 04:05:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E58A1065674 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:05:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0018FC19 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6J459d7002724; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:05:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4C43CEF5.9070100@rawbw.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:05:09 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100708 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Nelson References: <4C43AE4D.80501@rawbw.com> <20100719024331.GK5485@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20100719024331.GK5485@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there a script to upgrade i386 system to amd64 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:05:13 -0000 On 07/18/2010 19:43, Dan Nelson wrote: > When I did it, I believe I just made copies of /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib > to ../lib32 (so 32-bit ports would still work), installed the 64-bit kernel > and world, rebooted, then upgraded all the ports over a week or so. I was > running zfs so I made a snapshot of the 32-bit system as it was just before > the install. A 64-bit buildworld and GENERIC kernel both default to > enabling 32-bit support and compat libraries, and I believe a 64-bit kernel > will boot and run a 32-bit world, so compatibility is good. > > Just be aware that binary file formats for programs installed via ports may > differ, so things like rrdtool datafiles and mysql databases will need to be > dumped to text form and reloaded. That's where the 32-bit snapshot came in > handy (so I had access to the 32-bit binaries after my port upgrades > finished and could dump using old binaries then reload using the new ones as > I discovered problems). > Thanks, this sounds very encouraging and I will try it. Another question is: are there any parts that won't work in amd64, besides file format issue that you just mentioned. Like NVidia driver? MPlayer plugins (taken from Windows binaries)? Linux flush in browsers, it's originally only 32-bit in Linux and works through the series of hacks in nspluginwrapper? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 04:06:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D6C106567A for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:06:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140158FC19 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:06:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.68]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:06:24 -0700 Message-ID: <4C43CF3B.7020501@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:06:19 +0800 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CyberLeo Kitsana References: <4C326CB5.9050905@a1poweruser.com> <4C3271D2.7070107@cyberleo.net> In-Reply-To: <4C3271D2.7070107@cyberleo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2010 04:06:25.0053 (UTC) FILETIME=[C1364CD0:01CB26F7] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: best open source site for Bourne .sh development project? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:06:25 -0000 CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > On 07/05/2010 06:37 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: >> I developing a jailed environment application in Bourne script. Looking >> for recommends for a open source web site to join and add my code to so >> others may participate. The site needs to be able to host the code to be >> used as the download location for a freebsd port, and not be terminated >> when the project becomes dormant. > > SourceForge.net? > Thanks SourceForge.net is free and full features. The free mailing list was so simple to set up. This is the best site. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 04:06:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE741065670 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:06:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973888FC12 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:06:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6J46ixv003058; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:06:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4C43CF54.4010509@rawbw.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:06:44 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100708 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Modulok References: <4C4242BA.1040300@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anybody can use webcam in skype in 8.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:06:45 -0000 On 07/18/2010 07:27, Modulok wrote: > I had a similar problem under linux the other day, if that helps. I > ended up setting the LD_PRELOAD environment variable to modify how > skype gets linked at runtime. In bash: > > LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so > skype > > Again that's on linux, so it's probably not relevant, or even if it > is, the shared object file will be in a different location. > > Sorry I'm not of much help. Maybe someone else can do better. > -Moduok- > > I noticed that there is even no linux port of libv4l on FreeBSD. Maybe this is the issue with skype? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 05:10:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6A4106564A for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 05:10:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0C78FC19 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 05:10:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf22 with SMTP id 22so4836386wyf.13 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 22:10:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=n5VqB1N1JFvtvWuZeudd2B+38UcxlyfH5dKh9XnEUQ8=; b=SAZcG8ePlAT5NamM37Mdv6/tCMCKs2lp/TJDKeagOiKepjIavew/qjE9F8HG6P/qFM y10k1WqITSfZ7buTDgm218OLpjhP/V29S7noE6JdZ+57fP37z/U5NNljF8gC7e1t848G HyvQeNWBpg0T4w0feMa3w88apQJ33NufMSpFc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Q47oW5RWXLNFixEt1kf74VbpBLJqD+knUoQQXPN+xeRwSMzVFipv0Y3aKrt+AUVyVr 1yRT86wHNOdnqz7vDfR5OBI/9tMinFGkPfQhkh8cY4jr77tV4g8+eXSUwuKnmCxUbKfW qN9LNTU/xoJ8yeA5jnDTt9rIec9x36uIO4n/s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.131.161 with SMTP id m33mr3353478wei.13.1279516230320; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 22:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.12.209 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 22:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:10:30 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kde-freebsd@kde.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: startkde: Could not start kdeinit4. Check your installation. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 05:10:32 -0000 Hello fellas, my system: FreeBSD [xxx] 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 15:48:17 UTC 2009 [email]root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu[/email]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 my problem: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- # startx xauth: creating new authority file /root/.serverauth.69910 X.Org X Server 1.6.1 Release Date: 2009-4-14 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE i386 Current Operating System: FreeBSD mainserver.serveftp.org 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 15:48:17 UTC 2009 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Build Date: 21 October 2009 04:11:47AM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun Jul 18 15:50:08 2010 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" kcheckrunning: not found kbuildsycoca4 running... startkde: Starting up... /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /lib/libthr.so.3: Undefined symbol "__pselect" startkde: Could not start kdeinit4. Check your installation. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- at the moment the box has xfce4 on it and I decided to install kde4 (pkg_add -r kde4). all went flawlessly. I added "exec /usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde" to ~/.xinitrc but when I do "startx" I get the message above. The box is a remote one. After the error, startx does not exit and if I use x11vnc I see a black screen with a box that says "Could not start kdeinit4. Check your installation" and a "Okay" button. If I click it, "x11vnc" exits but "startx" does not. However, if I run "/usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde" and "x11vnc" with "-auth" option, I can see the kde4 login screen and after it accepts my credentials I see "Could not start kdeinit4. Check your installation". If I click "okay", x11vnc exits. I was unable to replicate this behaviour - it happened only once (kde does not run without a X server so I'm presuming I had some X process hanging somewhere) I've been google-ing for quite some time now and I am unable to find anything relevant. The machine is ~800 km away so direct interaction is impossible. Any ideas are welcomed. PS: nothing relevant in messages.log, all.log and Xorg.log. The video card is a nvidia FX5500. PS2: on a vmware machine, (fresh install of F-BSD 8.0 - kernel+base) I had no problems. PS3: I have reinstalled all kde4 packages (pkg_add) and rebuild libthr from source but with no effect :( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 05:13:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598011065670 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 05:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmettee@pchotshots.com) Received: from mail.pchotshots.com (ns1.pchotshots.com [12.172.123.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F23038FC15 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 05:13:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 88570 invoked by uid 89); 19 Jul 2010 05:13:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?12.172.123.228?) (bmettee@pchotshots.com@12.172.123.228) by mail.pchotshots.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2010 05:13:24 -0000 Message-ID: <4C43DEF5.5060707@pchotshots.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:13:25 -0400 From: Brad Mettee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi References: <201007190326.o6J3QvqL022578@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201007190326.o6J3QvqL022578@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has anybody got a *working* example of getpwnam_r() ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 05:13:25 -0000 Robert Bonomi wrote: > I've _got_ to be doing something wrong, sine I'm getting heap corruption > calling it. But for the life of me, I can't figure out -what- is wrong. > > What I've got makes "a whole lot of no sense" -- I get corruption of > the _same_ malloc()'d data structure (at *exactly* the same offset into > the structure!!) on both 7.2 i386 and 8.0 amd64 releases (on different > hardware). > > Unfortunately thee is a _lot_ of code, including significant use of > of malloc()/free() that attempmting to whittle things down to a > minimal test case would be very awkward. right now, I've got the > corruption at a 'known' place, but no cluse as to -how- it's > happening -- available evidence seems to exclude everything passed > _into_ getwpnam_r(). > > > the offending call is : > > getpwnam_r(cp3, &pw_data, buffer2, sizeof(buffer2), &pwd); > > data declaration at the beginning of the function: > char buffer[1024]; > char buffer2[1024]; > char mailbox[1024]; > *cp,*cp2,*cp3,*cp4 = buffer; > struct passwd pw_data,pw_data2,*pwd=&pw_data2; > int i; > > The whole program is around 2500 lines of code and headers, with, as > mentioined, _lots_ of malloc()/free() activity, I can put ut it up on > my web-server, if somebody really wants to dig. > > I've tried changing the size of buffer2 to 8kb, in case I was > over-running the 1k buffer. ((unfortunately the mmanpage does _not_ > specify a minimum size for the buffer) > I've tried declaring buffer2 _and_ the 'struct passwd' items as > 'static', so that _if_ the corruption was coming from one of > those addresses, the corruption *should* move. > > *NONE* of those changes made _any_ differnce in where the corruption > was occuring, or _what_ was being written there. > > I'm *really* baffled. HELP!!! <*whimper*> > > _what_ stuff shows up _does_ differ between the 7.2 and 8.0 systems, > > 8.0 reliably produces 116 bytes corrupted: > [gdb command: x/112 &private_data_pointer->remotehostname > 0x40a0e070: 103 'g' 114 'r' 111 'o' 117 'u' 112 'p' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' > 0x40a0e078: 99 'c' 111 'o' 109 'm' 112 'p' 97 'a' 116 't' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' > 0x40a0e080: 99 'c' 111 'o' 109 'm' 112 'p' 97 'a' 116 't' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' > 0x40a0e088: 104 'h' 111 'o' 115 's' 116 't' 115 's' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' > 0x40a0e090: 102 'f' 105 'i' 108 'l' 101 'e' 115 's' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' > 0x40a0e098: 102 'f' 105 'i' 108 'l' 101 'e' 115 's' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' > 0x40a0e0a0: 102 'f' 105 'i' 108 'l' 101 'e' 115 's' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' > 0x40a0e0a8: 112 'p' 97 'a' 115 's' 115 's' 119 'w' 100 'd' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' > 0x40a0e0b0: 99 'c' 111 'o' 109 'm' 112 'p' 97 'a' 116 't' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' > 0x40a0e0b8: 115 's' 104 'h' 101 'e' 108 'l' 108 'l' 115 's' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' > 0x40a0e0c0: 102 'f' 105 'i' 108 'l' 101 'e' 115 's' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' > 0x40a0e0c8: 99 'c' 111 'o' 109 'm' 112 'p' 97 'a' 116 't' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' > 0x40a0e0d0: 102 'f' 105 'i' 108 'l' 101 'e' 115 's' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' > 0x40a0e0d8: 102 'f' 105 'i' 108 'l' 101 'e' 115 's' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' > > > 7.2 produces 64 bytes corrupted: > [gdb command: x/112 &private_data_pointer->remotehostname > 0x2820b098: 100 'd' 110 'n' 115 's' 0 '\0' 110 'n' 105 'i' 115 's' 0 '\0' > 0x2820b0a0: 110 'n' 105 'i' 115 's' 0 '\0' 114 'r' 112 'p' 99 'c' 0 '\0' > 0x2820b0a8: 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' > 0x2820b0b0: 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' > 0x2820b0b8: 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' > 0x2820b0c0: 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 3 '\003' 0 '\0' 8 '\b' 0 '\0' > 0x2820b0c8: 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' > 0x2820b0d0: 2 '\002' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' 0 '\0' > > This stuff looks like it -might- be fromm a nsswitch.conf parse. > I dunno. > > anybody got _any_ ideas? > This might help. Just above the crashing call, open a file, and dump the contents of the vars you're sending to the function with fprintf, then close the file. I suspect cp3 doesn't point to valid data and is causing the function call to fail (it looks like it's pointing to the same thing as buffer, which doesn't look like how the function should be called). Having the contents of the individual vars will help you narrow down exactly what's occuring. Data you want to see is the pointers themselves, and maybe the first 8 or so characters of data that it's pointing to. And if this doesn't help, there's always Google CodeSearch http://www.google.com/codesearch , for examples of how to call it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 08:09:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E73106566B for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:09:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E4C8FC0C for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:09:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OalPG-0008QK-AC; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:08:58 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6J8907H002871; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:09:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o6J890FL002870; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:09:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:09:00 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Leonardo =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=2E_Ram=E9?= Message-ID: <20100719080900.GA2842@current.Sisis.de> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , Leonardo =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=2E_Ram=E9?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100718193637.a861d7dc.freebsd@edvax.de> <594855.43631.qm@web113510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <594855.43631.qm@web113510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spanish keyboard in X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:09:03 -0000 El día Sunday, July 18, 2010 a las 11:32:05AM -0700, Leonardo M. Ramé escribió: > Yes,I have modified xorg.conf the same way as you mentioned. > > Anyway, now the problem is solved by adding "setxkbmap es &" to my .xsession > > Thanks. > > Leonardo M. Ramé > http://leonardorame.blogspot.com A bit related to the question: If you need Spanish Tilde chars but you have only an English or German keyboard (like I have), you can make use of the so called WindowsKey in X11 and define the keys like shown below. After this, for example, the combination WindowsKey+a gives á (a-tilde). # $Id: xmod.sh,v 1.1 2008/08/25 10:04:41 guru Exp $ # # para español: # xmodmap -e "keycode 0x73 = Mode_switch" xmodmap -e "keycode 0x39 = n N ntilde Ntilde" xmodmap -e "keycode 0x1a = e E eacute Eacute" xmodmap -e "keycode 0x26 = a A aacute Aacute" xmodmap -e "keycode 0x1f = i I iacute Iacute" xmodmap -e "keycode 0x1e = u U uacute Uacute" xmodmap -e "keycode 0x20 = o O oacute Oacute" xmodmap -e "keycode 0x14 = questiondown question backslash ssharp" xmodmap -e "keycode 0x0a = 1 exclam exclamdown onesuperior" # xmodmap -e "keycode 94 = less greater guillemotleft guillemotright bar brokenbar Espero que te ayude. Saludos matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 08:12:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B5D1065672 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:12:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7BCE8FC12 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf22 with SMTP id 22so4991762wyf.13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:12:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jBgDr2yG5bI24ye/GBYI65EhHJ45HsaWB8k5TOTh6Vg=; b=v+aF7hOxQSpkcxeZbxdbnBswOfAqGPKCaMSFEQkY80nkGqV3xyO+vhoqgY77fxl5wx J4enQAovXdm6NztOM2Sor/k+zSUddHLq2VYFW3UYVZLucRq9RMSWaTHQMpZ47defW4xF FyAQzyjVhlsKhtUxDgzgMcMDUPyqkJUdyYw7c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=PzpBITH0HarGK4gN3Yd+uQLge1IG9c19AN8VFXRBc9lNo5lxEzaSP04uUWW28vCYQA hZSYEwdZPvHJe2lLsN2ZwBB4RJiaUFilmYmRHaVpHVbKFd/mpI760zWmxPJzpuq7lxiz /FU5+ihd+IPwQnGfydM9LS9s4VErKsf1BIaHU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.153.211 with SMTP id l19mr3641264wbw.224.1279527122526; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.172.4 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:12:02 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jim To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: sockets stuck in use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:12:04 -0000 I was working on an application I've been developing, and I closed the last instance a bit over 12 hours ago, but some of the sockets are still stuck in use: [sjss@elrond ~/dev/pipe/scripts]$ netstat | grep -e 'tcp' | grep 9612 tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.80.42464 192.168.1.2.9612 SYN_SENT tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.80.35742 192.168.1.2.9612 CLOSED tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.80.46116 192.168.1.2.9612 CLOSED tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.80.36792 192.168.1.2.9612 CLOSED Is there any way to get rid of them without restarting the machine? I was playing with sockopt SO_KEEPALIVE and SO_LINGER when I caused this issue.. Thanks, -Jim Stapleton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 08:20:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC451065675 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:20:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36508FC1F for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:20:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oalam-0004x5-2a; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:20:52 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6J8KsgU002970; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:20:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o6J8Ksic002969; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:20:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:20:54 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Leonardo =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=2E_Ram=E9?= Message-ID: <20100719082054.GB2842@current.Sisis.de> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , Leonardo =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=2E_Ram=E9?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <181707.32227.qm@web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <181707.32227.qm@web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: utf8 characters in terminal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:20:54 -0000 El día Sunday, July 18, 2010 a las 11:45:40AM -0700, Leonardo M. Ramé escribió: > Hi, I installed Freebsd 8.1-RC2 in my home server to be used mainly as a file server, it used to have Ubuntu 9.10-Server installed on it, then I backed up (.tar.gz) the /home directory, that contains many spanish accented files and subdirectories in UTF8. > > Now, when I access this machine using ssh, some of those files include "??" and "\303" or similar characters instead of the correct accents. > > What can I do to show the files in the correct way?. > > Leonardo M. Ramé > http://leonardorame.blogspot.com I assume your are talking about the names of the files and dir (and not about the content). Check if the names contain correct UTF-8 encoding with something like: $ ls | od -t x1 | more The have UTF-8 inside the xterm you need somethink like this: Port xterm from the ports to get UTF-8 support: # cd /usr/ports/x11/xterm # make install WITH_256_COLOR=yes WITH_WIDE_CHARS=yes Then you may use: $ LANG=es_ES.UTF-8 xterm -T utf8 -fn 10x20 -sb -sl 1024 -cr blue HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 08:32:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D3B1065674 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:32:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timur@bat.ru) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754498FC0A for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30so2049281qyk.13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:32:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.37.19 with SMTP id v19mr4078274qad.66.1279528328265; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:32:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.29.21 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:31:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: "Timur I. Bakeyev" Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:31:47 +0200 Message-ID: To: Michael McGrew Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: samba pam_smbpass & passwd seg fault X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:32:09 -0000 Hi! On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Michael McGrew wrote: > I'm trying to sync the local unix account passwords to the samba > smbpass db using pam. When i run passwd, after it's done it seg faults > and produces a core dump. The odd thing is that it works, the users > local unix password gets synced to the smbpass db, but it seg faults. > Below are my relevant config files. Is this a bug or am I doing > something wrong? The relevant information would be the version of the samba you are using and analysis of the coredump. Make sure your samba is compiled with debug information. Timur. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 08:38:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A46F106567B for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:38:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timur@bat.ru) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E29C8FC16 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:38:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so2046046qwg.13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.74.1 with SMTP id s1mr4440065qaj.26.1279528691160; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:38:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.29.21 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:37:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <80AD3593-1170-4346-A4EE-4274085D6570@gull.us> <001501cb1db5$b3db2240$1b9166c0$@wakefield.sch.uk> <6341639666e4d0c65cd1b29a89e64beb.squirrel@www.gull.us> From: "Timur I. Bakeyev" Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:37:51 +0200 Message-ID: To: David Brodbeck Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Samba gives "invalid PT_PHDR" after upgrading from 7.2-RELEASE to 7.3-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:38:12 -0000 On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:42 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: > On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:12 AM, David Brodbeck wrote: >> On Wed, July 7, 2010 2:20 am, mcoyles wrote: >>> David - have a look here... >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2010-April/016405.ht= ml >> >> OK, I see. =A0It looks like rtld is part of world, not a port, so then t= he >> question becomes, why didn't freebsd-update update it for me? =A0Is ther= e a >> way I can force a binary upgrade, or do I need to download the source an= d >> rebuild things that way? > > I ended up downloading the 7.3 livefs ISO, booting off of it, and replaci= ng > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 with the one from the CD. =A0That fixed the problem. > > I suspect the reason freebsd-update didn't upgrade it properly is it appe= ars > it's impossible to replace this file on a running system, even in > single-user mode. =A0Maybe there should be something in the release notes > about a 7.2 -> 7.3 upgrade being impossible to do properly except by boot= ing > from CD? make installworld happily does it, so can you - by renaming file to the *.old and then putting new on in it's place. So, it could be that freebsd-update isn't sophisticated enough to do such a trick. Timur. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 08:50:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2DF106566B; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:50:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B117B8FC15; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:50:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oam3C-00028r-Aj; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:50:14 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Oam3C-00039X-64; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:50:14 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6J8oDj1082098; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:50:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o6J8oDAs082097; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:50:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:50:13 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100719085013.GA82064@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100718124411.GA74064@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100718124411.GA74064@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Subject: Re: Xorg dumps core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:50:16 -0000 On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 01:44:11PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I've seen this problem before, but on > a complex configuration: Xorg running on > FreeBSD spar64 and connecting via "-query" > to clients running on FreeBSD ia64. > > Now I get this core dump on a simple amd64 > installation, so I'm trying to provide > a full report. > > On amd64 -current (r210043) I've > xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > xf86-video-ati-6.13.0 > xdm-1.1.8_2 > > I start X with > > ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm on secure > > in /etc/ttys > > I open ssh -XY connection to a linux server. > > I start an application (Paraview, www.paraview.org). > > When I close the Paraview normally - Xorg dumps core. > > After 1-2 seconds I'm back at the xdm login screen. > > Here's xdm.log > > % cat /val/log/xdm.log > X.Org X Server 1.7.5 > Release Date: 2010-02-16 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT amd64 > Current Operating System: FreeBSD mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #0 r210043: Thu Jul 15 12:01:58 BST 2010 root@mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUZI amd64 > Build Date: 16 June 2010 02:51:23PM > > Current version of pixman: 0.16.6 > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org > to make sure that you have the latest version. > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun Jul 18 13:16:26 2010 > (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" > (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM > [dri] Disabling DRI. > XRANDR name: VGA-0 > Connector: VGA > CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1 > DDC reg: 0x7e50 > XRANDR name: LVDS > Connector: LVDS > LCD1: INTERNAL_LVTM1 > DDC reg: 0x7e40 > Dac detection success > finished output detect: 0 > finished output detect: 1 > finished all detect > Dac detection success > Output LCD1 disable success > Blank CRTC 0 success > Disable CRTC 0 success > Blank CRTC 1 success > Disable CRTC 1 success > Output CRT1 disable success > Output LCD1 disable success > Blank CRTC 0 success > Disable CRTC 0 success > Blank CRTC 1 success > Disable CRTC 1 success > Output LCD1 disable success > Blank CRTC 0 success > Disable CRTC 0 success > Mode 1280x800 - 1440 823 10 > Picked PLL 0 > best_freq: 71152 > best_feedback_div: 159 > best_frac_feedback_div: 0 > best_ref_div: 2 > best_post_div: 16 > Set CRTC 0 PLL success > Set CRTC Timing success > Set CRTC 0 Overscan success > Not using RMX > scaler 0 setup success > Set CRTC 0 Source success > crtc 0 YUV disable setup success > Output digital setup success > Output LCD1 enable success > Enable CRTC 0 success > Unblank CRTC 0 success > Output CRT1 disable success > Blank CRTC 1 success > Disable CRTC 1 success > record: RECORD extension enabled at configure time. > record: This extension is known to be broken, disabling extension now.. > record: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20500 > Bus error: 10 at address 0x802257ddb > > Fatal server error: > Caught signal 10 (Bus error: 10). Server aborting > > > Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support > at http://wiki.x.org > for help. > Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information. > > Output LCD1 disable success > Blank CRTC 0 success > Disable CRTC 0 success > Blank CRTC 1 success > Disable CRTC 1 success > Enable CRTC 0 success > Unblank CRTC 0 success > XIO: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0" > after 131 requests (131 known processed) with 0 events remaining. > xdm error (pid 1146): Server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly: 1536 > > > > Here's the gdb output: > > > GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] > Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. > This GDB was configured as "amd64-marcel-freebsd"...(no debugging symbols found)... > Core was generated by `Xorg'. > Program terminated with signal 6, Aborted. > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libpciaccess.so.0...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libpciaccess.so.0 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXfont.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXfont.so.1 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libfontenc.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libfontenc.so.1 > Reading symbols from /lib/libz.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /lib/libz.so.6 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libpixman-1.so.9...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libpixman-1.so.9 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libhal.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libhal.so.1 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libdbus-1.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libdbus-1.so.3 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 > Reading symbols from /lib/libcrypto.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /lib/libcrypto.so.6 > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/librpcsvc.so.5...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/librpcsvc.so.5 > Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.5...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.5 > Reading symbols from /lib/libthr.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /lib/libthr.so.3 > Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.7...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.7 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libdrm.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libdrm.so.2 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libvgahw.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libvgahw.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libint10.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libint10.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libxaa.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libxaa.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libexpat.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libexpat.so.6 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so > Reading symbols from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 > #0 0x0000000801a30d8c in kill () from /lib/libc.so.7 > [New Thread 801c071c0 (LWP 100123)] > (gdb) quit Does bt help at all: (gdb) bt full #0 0x0000000801a30d8c in kill () from /lib/libc.so.7 No symbol table info available. #1 0x0000000801a2fb4b in abort () from /lib/libc.so.7 No symbol table info available. #2 0x0000000000476744 in ddxGiveUp () No symbol table info available. #3 0x000000000046fcdd in AbortServer () No symbol table info available. #4 0x000000000047035f in FatalError () No symbol table info available. #5 0x000000000046a581 in OsInit () No symbol table info available. #6 No symbol table info available. #7 0x0000000802256a4b in DrawableGone () from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so No symbol table info available. #8 0x00000000004524cc in FreeResource () No symbol table info available. #9 0x0000000000434c2b in ProcDestroyWindow () No symbol table info available. #10 0x0000000000437460 in Dispatch () No symbol table info available. #11 0x000000000042d7ba in main () No symbol table info available. (gdb) Is there any way I can increase amount of debugging information? Will launching xdm with -debug help? Please advise many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 09:05:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBE61065679 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:05:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from avmxsmtp3.comclark.com (avmxsmtp3.comclark.com [202.69.191.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A9B8FC15 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:05:40 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0UAN+xQ0zKRaxEPGdsb2JhbAAHgxmEUpgFAQEBATWuY5BmgSmDCXMEg36HGQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,226,1278259200"; d="scan'208";a="13940431" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.10.3]) ([202.69.172.68]) by avmxsmtp3.comclark.com with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2010 17:05:38 +0800 Message-ID: <4C44154D.1060109@comclark.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:05:17 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael References: <4C378D58.5010404@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C378D58.5010404@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw nat and jails on loopback - is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:05:40 -0000 Michael wrote: > Hello. > > Does anybody has a working configuration with ipfw nated jails on > loopback interface? > It simply doesn't work on my system. I can not get any connections to > outside world from within a jail. > > FreeBSD 8.0-p3 amd64 laptop connected to internet via wlan0 (ath0) with > 192.168.1.111 address. > Jail with IP 127.127.127.1 aliased on lo0. > > Host system configuration: > /etc/rc.conf > ifconfig_wlan0="WPA DHCP" > ifconfig_lo0_alias0="inet 127.127.127.1 netmask 255.255.255.255" > gateway_enable="YES" > firewall_enable="YES" > firewall_script="/etc/ipfw.rules" > firewall_nat_enable="YES" > firewall_nat_interface="wlan0" > /etc/resolve.conf > nameserver 208.67.222.222 > nameserver 208.67.220.220 > /etc/ipfw.conf > ipfw -q -f flush > ipfw add 00001 allow all from 127.0.0.1 to 127.0.0.1 via lo0 > ipfw add 00002 nat 100 ip from 127.127.127.1 to any via wlan0 keep-state > ipfw nat 100 config ip 192.168.1.111 > ipfw add 00003 allow all from any to any > > Jailed system configuration: > /etc/rc.conf > network_interfaces="" > /etc/resolve.conf > nameserver 208.67.222.222 > nameserver 208.67.220.220 > > > Now I'm doing ssh into a jailed system (127.127.127.1). Then on jail > system I'm trying to do for example: > > host freebsd.org > ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached > > And on host system: > ipfw -d show > 00001 0 0 allow ip from 127.0.0.1 to 127.0.0.1 via lo0 > 00002 4 228 nat 100 ip from 127.127.127.1 to any via wlan0 keep-state > 00003 182 24627 allow ip from any to any > 65535 0 0 deny ip from any to any > ## Dynamic rules (2): > 00002 1 57 (1s) STATE udp 127.127.127.1 58340 <-> 208.67.222.222 53 > 00002 1 57 (2s) STATE udp 127.127.127.1 39870 <-> 208.67.220.220 53 > > > So no packets got blocked but still it doesn't work properly. I'm trying > to get it working for couple weeks now and I'm afraid I just run out of > ideas so any help would be very appreciated. > you have to put your hosts /etc/resolve.conf in each jail before you can get network connection. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 13:16:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34965106566C for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:16:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frlinux@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9D88FC1D for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:16:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so2362471fxm.13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 06:16:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QjRGaRG7ig6T7izoSMINziNL6KSqLiuc9nhjqRXavT4=; b=SDQeF2ObuVyq1ZyPC+SAhqI+giTm1B1QufxNhm5AvpULGZ+JckjlriaOuCiUzzTxnN 6C+RwH4mdrqGYDKORZ+Z0XZiiJ8ywOiQW7Lhk/1nGNEdILp4ZTAAIlFbRixFv2dQ70Sw 64nmBdgj3ZmifyqCdSuQV4IwRNSwAccN4ARA0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AWGRqfwkXjWDxOrTv35wutCGK0femw7Wg38vp3G7JTkscl3HYtdMX4fU8+06E0B8Tw YAom/IUndRtHNrrECSbq6rqPKikY+ESjsFRgluooA16UIFFk84z+yAjm6cvcPHMmDi2M 4TEv3D/DGzCgdWeaCZXuVqKEEt1uSckF/35NY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.133.1 with SMTP id 1mr336482hbt.120.1279545394191; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 06:16:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.177.65 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 06:16:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:16:34 +0100 Message-ID: From: FRLinux To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: 8.1-rc2 journal overflow error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:16:36 -0000 Hello, I am using a hefty server with a single SSD drive as the main drive (Corsair CMFSSD-64D1). It worked nicely until today where I got a journal overflow error, i took a screenshot here: http://picasaweb.google.fr/frlinux/Computers#5495597160219915298 I am using a RAID array on a 3ware card (twa0: INFO: (0x15: 0x1300): Controller details:: Model 9650SE-24M8, 24 ports, Firmware FE9X 4.10.00.007, BIOS BE9X 4.08.00.002) where I have (12 drives attached to it). The RAID array seems healthy. I am using journal on the unit : GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 3769207394: da0 contains data. GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 3769207394: da0 contains journal. Root mount waiting for: GJOURNAL GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal da0 consistent. I have googled for a solution but have failed to find any. This server is a clean install of 8.1-rc2 where it used to host 7.2-RELEASE which was fairly stable (hardly a crash). So in short, anything I can do to help debug this problem? (dmesg below) Cheers, Steph Copyright (c) 1992-2010 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0The Regents of the University of California. All rights rese= rved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 8.1-RC2 #0: Tue Jun 29 20:21:55 UTC 2010 =A0 =A0root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 E5405 =A0@ 2.00GHz (2004.98-M= Hz K8-class CPU) =A0Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" =A0Id =3D 0x1067a =A0Family =3D 6 =A0Model =3D= 17 =A0Stepping =3D 10 =A0Features=3D0xbfebfbff =A0Features2=3D0x40ce33d =A0AMD Features=3D0x20100800 =A0AMD Features2=3D0x1 =A0TSC: P-state invariant real memory =A0=3D 8589934592 (8192 MB) avail memory =3D 8226881536 (7845 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s) =A0cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: =A00 =A0cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: =A01 =A0cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: =A02 =A0cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: =A03 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard lapic0: Forcing LINT1 to edge trigger kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acp= i0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 acpi_button0: on acpi0 acpi_button1: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xca2,0xca3,0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 pci2: on pcib2 pcib3: irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 pci3: on pcib3 3ware device driver for 9000 series storage controllers, version: 3.70.05.0= 01 twa0: <3ware 9000 series Storage Controller> port 0x3000-0x30ff mem 0xb8000000-0xb9ffffff,0xba900000-0xba900fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3 twa0: [ITHREAD] twa0: INFO: (0x04: 0x0053): Battery capacity test is overdue: twa0: INFO: (0x15: 0x1300): Controller details:: Model 9650SE-24M8, 24 ports, Firmware FE9X 4.10.00.007, BIOS BE9X 4.08.00.002 pcib4: irq 18 at device 2.0 on pci2 pci4: on pcib4 em0: port 0x2020-0x203f mem 0xba820000-0xba83ffff,0xba400000-0xba7fffff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci4 em0: Using MSI interrupt em0: [FILTER] em0: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:82:b3:b8 em1: port 0x2000-0x201f mem 0xba800000-0xba81ffff,0xba000000-0xba3fffff irq 19 at device 0.1 on pci4 em1: Using MSI interrupt em1: [FILTER] em1: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:82:b3:b9 pcib5: at device 0.3 on pci1 pci5: on pcib5 pcib6: at device 3.0 on pci0 pci6: on pcib6 pcib7: at device 4.0 on pci0 pci7: on pcib7 pcib8: at device 5.0 on pci0 pci8: on pcib8 pcib9: at device 6.0 on pci0 pci9: on pcib9 pcib10: at device 7.0 on pci0 pci10: on pcib10 pci0: at device 8.0 (no driver attached) pcib11: irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0 pci11: on pcib11 uhci0: port 0x40a0-0x40bf irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [ITHREAD] uhci0: LegSup =3D 0x2f00 usbus0: on uhci0 uhci1: port 0x4080-0x409f irq 22 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [ITHREAD] uhci1: LegSup =3D 0x2f00 usbus1: on uhci1 uhci2: port 0x4060-0x407f irq 23 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [ITHREAD] uhci2: LegSup =3D 0x2f00 usbus2: on uhci2 uhci3: port 0x4040-0x405f irq 22 at device 29.3 on pci0 uhci3: [ITHREAD] uhci3: LegSup =3D 0x2f00 usbus3: on uhci3 ehci0: mem 0xbac00400-0xbac007ff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [ITHREAD] usbus4: EHCI version 1.0 usbus4: on ehci0 pcib12: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci12: on pcib12 vgapci0: port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 0xb0000000-0xb7ffffff,0xbab00000-0xbab0ffff irq 17 at device 12.0 on pci12 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x40c0-0x40cf irq 20 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata0: [ITHREAD] atapci1: port 0x40d8-0x40df,0x40f4-0x40f7,0x40d0-0x40d7,0x40f0-0x40f3,0x4020-0x403f mem 0xbac00000-0xbac003ff irq 20 at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci1: [ITHREAD] atapci1: AHCI called from vendor specific driver atapci1: AHCI v1.10 controller with 6 3Gbps ports, PM supported ata2: on atapci1 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: on atapci1 ata3: [ITHREAD] ata4: on atapci1 ata4: [ITHREAD] ata5: on atapci1 ata5: [ITHREAD] ata6: on atapci1 ata6: [ITHREAD] ata7: on atapci1 ata7: [ITHREAD] pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) atrtc0: port 0x70-0x71,0x74-0x77 irq 8 on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 uart0: [FILTER] uart1: <16550 or compatible> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 uart1: [FILTER] orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc8fff,0xcb000-0xccfff,0xcd000-0xcdfff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range p4tcc0: on cpu0 p4tcc1: on cpu1 p4tcc2: on cpu2 p4tcc3: on cpu3 RTC BIOS diagnostic error 5 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus1: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus2: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus3: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus4: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 ugen0.1: at usbus0 uhub0: on usbus0 ugen1.1: at usbus1 uhub1: on usbus1 ugen2.1: at usbus2 uhub2: on usbus2 ugen3.1: at usbus3 uhub3: on usbus3 ugen4.1: at usbus4 uhub4: on usbus4 acd0: DVDR at ata0-master UDMA33 ad6: 61057MB at ata3-master UDMA100 SATA 3Gb/s uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered da0 at twa0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-5 device da0: 100.000MB/s transfers da0: 4768320MB (9765519360 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 607875C) lapic1: Forcing LINT1 to edge trigger SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! lapic3: Forcing LINT1 to edge trigger SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! lapic2: Forcing LINT1 to edge trigger SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 3769207394: da0 contains data. GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 3769207394: da0 contains journal. Root mount waiting for: GJOURNAL ugen0.2: at usbus0 ukbd0: on usbus0 kbd2 at ukbd0 ums0: on usbus0 ums0: 3 buttons and [XYZ] coordinates ID=3D0 Root mount waiting for: GJOURNAL Root mount waiting for: GJOURNAL Root mount waiting for: GJOURNAL Root mount waiting for: GJOURNAL GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal da0 consistent. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad6s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted /var: mount pending error: blocks 212 files 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 13:24:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249A31065676 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frlinux@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20CF8FC1D for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:24:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-fx0-f54.google.com with SMTP id 13so2367077fxm.13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 06:24:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=In/U0c0sGX1uoWBJtpxbAoAXusGoTfhdIHwnKjOL44M=; b=mTKcoMZbe4WXZjcpYM/xKvW2oOsgPS/tyYl1OvKWbxcxlMffYwqqXhZaT9QRmuAkal QncP42vWxdmgyv4UR2i84nn5COGjUZXegwCP5qXbmdKOj5D0I0LV4Gd2qFzSe0bcceP1 zcP4Yb+v2/IKLsdFMEBX/kXg0iz57lON8FwL0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=P7hWkaa+pcH9Lk+83hfuRphNUCJ/wm4TKSiiorIR+uekFVqMGu1q+DSIjjCe3PsYy8 IyJ/WOitj0cgtfrKY1ZZh3dn6E/dFgHtYfQ1Ba9IKlPsU1mtcW3rObbOx7h6DjFYGyvP ZdSViwmDmFc/ocNHFKNExM4YvtxhkXjculnV8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.133.1 with SMTP id 1mr334158hbt.120.1279543985987; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 05:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.177.65 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 05:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:53:05 +0100 Message-ID: From: FRLinux To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: 8.1-rc2 journal overflow error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:24:29 -0000 Hello, I am using a hefty server with a single SSD drive as the main drive (Corsair CMFSSD-64D1). It worked nicely until today where I got a journal overflow error, i took a screenshot here: http://picasaweb.google.fr/frlinux/Computers#5495597160219915298 I am using a RAID array on a 3ware card (twa0: INFO: (0x15: 0x1300): Controller details:: Model 9650SE-24M8, 24 ports, Firmware FE9X 4.10.00.007, BIOS BE9X 4.08.00.002) where I have (12 drives attached to it). The RAID array seems healthy. I am using journal on the unit : GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 3769207394: da0 contains data. GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 3769207394: da0 contains journal. Root mount waiting for: GJOURNAL GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal da0 consistent. I have googled for a solution but have failed to find any. This server is a clean install of 8.1-rc2 where it used to host 7.2-RELEASE which was fairly stable (hardly a crash). So in short, anything I can do to help debug this problem? (dmesg below) Cheers, Steph Copyright (c) 1992-2010 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 8.1-RC2 #0: Tue Jun 29 20:21:55 UTC 2010 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5405 @ 2.00GHz (2004.98-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x1067a Family = 6 Model = 17 Stepping = 10 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x40ce33d AMD Features=0x20100800 AMD Features2=0x1 TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 8589934592 (8192 MB) avail memory = 8226881536 (7845 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s) cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard lapic0: Forcing LINT1 to edge trigger kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 acpi_button0: on acpi0 acpi_button1: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xca2,0xca3,0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 pci2: on pcib2 pcib3: irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 pci3: on pcib3 3ware device driver for 9000 series storage controllers, version: 3.70.05.001 twa0: <3ware 9000 series Storage Controller> port 0x3000-0x30ff mem 0xb8000000-0xb9ffffff,0xba900000-0xba900fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3 twa0: [ITHREAD] twa0: INFO: (0x04: 0x0053): Battery capacity test is overdue: twa0: INFO: (0x15: 0x1300): Controller details:: Model 9650SE-24M8, 24 ports, Firmware FE9X 4.10.00.007, BIOS BE9X 4.08.00.002 pcib4: irq 18 at device 2.0 on pci2 pci4: on pcib4 em0: port 0x2020-0x203f mem 0xba820000-0xba83ffff,0xba400000-0xba7fffff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci4 em0: Using MSI interrupt em0: [FILTER] em0: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:82:b3:b8 em1: port 0x2000-0x201f mem 0xba800000-0xba81ffff,0xba000000-0xba3fffff irq 19 at device 0.1 on pci4 em1: Using MSI interrupt em1: [FILTER] em1: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:82:b3:b9 pcib5: at device 0.3 on pci1 pci5: on pcib5 pcib6: at device 3.0 on pci0 pci6: on pcib6 pcib7: at device 4.0 on pci0 pci7: on pcib7 pcib8: at device 5.0 on pci0 pci8: on pcib8 pcib9: at device 6.0 on pci0 pci9: on pcib9 pcib10: at device 7.0 on pci0 pci10: on pcib10 pci0: at device 8.0 (no driver attached) pcib11: irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0 pci11: on pcib11 uhci0: port 0x40a0-0x40bf irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [ITHREAD] uhci0: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus0: on uhci0 uhci1: port 0x4080-0x409f irq 22 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [ITHREAD] uhci1: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus1: on uhci1 uhci2: port 0x4060-0x407f irq 23 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [ITHREAD] uhci2: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus2: on uhci2 uhci3: port 0x4040-0x405f irq 22 at device 29.3 on pci0 uhci3: [ITHREAD] uhci3: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus3: on uhci3 ehci0: mem 0xbac00400-0xbac007ff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [ITHREAD] usbus4: EHCI version 1.0 usbus4: on ehci0 pcib12: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci12: on pcib12 vgapci0: port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 0xb0000000-0xb7ffffff,0xbab00000-0xbab0ffff irq 17 at device 12.0 on pci12 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x40c0-0x40cf irq 20 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata0: [ITHREAD] atapci1: port 0x40d8-0x40df,0x40f4-0x40f7,0x40d0-0x40d7,0x40f0-0x40f3,0x4020-0x403f mem 0xbac00000-0xbac003ff irq 20 at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci1: [ITHREAD] atapci1: AHCI called from vendor specific driver atapci1: AHCI v1.10 controller with 6 3Gbps ports, PM supported ata2: on atapci1 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: on atapci1 ata3: [ITHREAD] ata4: on atapci1 ata4: [ITHREAD] ata5: on atapci1 ata5: [ITHREAD] ata6: on atapci1 ata6: [ITHREAD] ata7: on atapci1 ata7: [ITHREAD] pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) atrtc0: port 0x70-0x71,0x74-0x77 irq 8 on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 uart0: [FILTER] uart1: <16550 or compatible> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 uart1: [FILTER] orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc8fff,0xcb000-0xccfff,0xcd000-0xcdfff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range p4tcc0: on cpu0 p4tcc1: on cpu1 p4tcc2: on cpu2 p4tcc3: on cpu3 RTC BIOS diagnostic error 5 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus1: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus2: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus3: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus4: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 ugen0.1: at usbus0 uhub0: on usbus0 ugen1.1: at usbus1 uhub1: on usbus1 ugen2.1: at usbus2 uhub2: on usbus2 ugen3.1: at usbus3 uhub3: on usbus3 ugen4.1: at usbus4 uhub4: on usbus4 acd0: DVDR at ata0-master UDMA33 ad6: 61057MB at ata3-master UDMA100 SATA 3Gb/s uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered da0 at twa0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-5 device da0: 100.000MB/s transfers da0: 4768320MB (9765519360 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 607875C) lapic1: Forcing LINT1 to edge trigger SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! lapic3: Forcing LINT1 to edge trigger SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! lapic2: Forcing LINT1 to edge trigger SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 3769207394: da0 contains data. GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 3769207394: da0 contains journal. Root mount waiting for: GJOURNAL ugen0.2: at usbus0 ukbd0: on usbus0 kbd2 at ukbd0 ums0: on usbus0 ums0: 3 buttons and [XYZ] coordinates ID=0 Root mount waiting for: GJOURNAL Root mount waiting for: GJOURNAL Root mount waiting for: GJOURNAL Root mount waiting for: GJOURNAL GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal da0 consistent. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad6s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted /var: mount pending error: blocks 212 files 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 13:28:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AF81065689; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:28:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCF28FC0A; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:28:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OaqOW-0003hA-AE; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:28:32 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1OaqOW-00067A-5n; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:28:32 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6JDSVUE083184; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:28:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o6JDSVH1083183; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:28:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:28:31 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20100719132831.GA83170@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100718124411.GA74064@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20100719085013.GA82064@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100719085013.GA82064@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg dumps core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:28:34 -0000 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 09:50:13AM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 01:44:11PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > I've seen this problem before, but on > > a complex configuration: Xorg running on > > FreeBSD spar64 and connecting via "-query" > > to clients running on FreeBSD ia64. > > > > Now I get this core dump on a simple amd64 > > installation, so I'm trying to provide > > a full report. > > > > On amd64 -current (r210043) I've > > xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > > xf86-video-ati-6.13.0 > > xdm-1.1.8_2 > > > > I start X with > > > > ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm on secure > > > > in /etc/ttys > > > > I open ssh -XY connection to a linux server. > > > > I start an application (Paraview, www.paraview.org). > > > > When I close the Paraview normally - Xorg dumps core. > > > > After 1-2 seconds I'm back at the xdm login screen. > > > > Here's xdm.log > > > > % cat /val/log/xdm.log > > X.Org X Server 1.7.5 > > Release Date: 2010-02-16 > > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 > > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT amd64 > > Current Operating System: FreeBSD mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #0 r210043: Thu Jul 15 12:01:58 BST 2010 root@mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUZI amd64 > > Build Date: 16 June 2010 02:51:23PM > > > > Current version of pixman: 0.16.6 > > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org > > to make sure that you have the latest version. > > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun Jul 18 13:16:26 2010 > > (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" > > (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM > > [dri] Disabling DRI. > > XRANDR name: VGA-0 > > Connector: VGA > > CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1 > > DDC reg: 0x7e50 > > XRANDR name: LVDS > > Connector: LVDS > > LCD1: INTERNAL_LVTM1 > > DDC reg: 0x7e40 > > Dac detection success > > finished output detect: 0 > > finished output detect: 1 > > finished all detect > > Dac detection success > > Output LCD1 disable success > > Blank CRTC 0 success > > Disable CRTC 0 success > > Blank CRTC 1 success > > Disable CRTC 1 success > > Output CRT1 disable success > > Output LCD1 disable success > > Blank CRTC 0 success > > Disable CRTC 0 success > > Blank CRTC 1 success > > Disable CRTC 1 success > > Output LCD1 disable success > > Blank CRTC 0 success > > Disable CRTC 0 success > > Mode 1280x800 - 1440 823 10 > > Picked PLL 0 > > best_freq: 71152 > > best_feedback_div: 159 > > best_frac_feedback_div: 0 > > best_ref_div: 2 > > best_post_div: 16 > > Set CRTC 0 PLL success > > Set CRTC Timing success > > Set CRTC 0 Overscan success > > Not using RMX > > scaler 0 setup success > > Set CRTC 0 Source success > > crtc 0 YUV disable setup success > > Output digital setup success > > Output LCD1 enable success > > Enable CRTC 0 success > > Unblank CRTC 0 success > > Output CRT1 disable success > > Blank CRTC 1 success > > Disable CRTC 1 success > > record: RECORD extension enabled at configure time. > > record: This extension is known to be broken, disabling extension now.. > > record: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20500 > > Bus error: 10 at address 0x802257ddb > > > > Fatal server error: > > Caught signal 10 (Bus error: 10). Server aborting > > > > > > Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support > > at http://wiki.x.org > > for help. > > Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information. > > > > Output LCD1 disable success > > Blank CRTC 0 success > > Disable CRTC 0 success > > Blank CRTC 1 success > > Disable CRTC 1 success > > Enable CRTC 0 success > > Unblank CRTC 0 success > > XIO: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0" > > after 131 requests (131 known processed) with 0 events remaining. > > xdm error (pid 1146): Server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly: 1536 > > > > > > > > Here's the gdb output: > > > > > > GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] > > Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are > > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. > > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. > > This GDB was configured as "amd64-marcel-freebsd"...(no debugging symbols found)... > > Core was generated by `Xorg'. > > Program terminated with signal 6, Aborted. > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libpciaccess.so.0...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libpciaccess.so.0 > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXfont.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXfont.so.1 > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9 > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libfontenc.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libfontenc.so.1 > > Reading symbols from /lib/libz.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /lib/libz.so.6 > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6 > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libpixman-1.so.9...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libpixman-1.so.9 > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libhal.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libhal.so.1 > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libdbus-1.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libdbus-1.so.3 > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 > > Reading symbols from /lib/libcrypto.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /lib/libcrypto.so.6 > > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/librpcsvc.so.5...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/librpcsvc.so.5 > > Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.5...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.5 > > Reading symbols from /lib/libthr.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /lib/libthr.so.3 > > Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.7...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.7 > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libdrm.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libdrm.so.2 > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libvgahw.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libvgahw.so > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libint10.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libint10.so > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libxaa.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libxaa.so > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libexpat.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libexpat.so.6 > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so > > Reading symbols from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > Loaded symbols for /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 > > #0 0x0000000801a30d8c in kill () from /lib/libc.so.7 > > [New Thread 801c071c0 (LWP 100123)] > > (gdb) quit > > Does bt help at all: > > (gdb) bt full > #0 0x0000000801a30d8c in kill () from /lib/libc.so.7 > No symbol table info available. > #1 0x0000000801a2fb4b in abort () from /lib/libc.so.7 > No symbol table info available. > #2 0x0000000000476744 in ddxGiveUp () > No symbol table info available. > #3 0x000000000046fcdd in AbortServer () > No symbol table info available. > #4 0x000000000047035f in FatalError () > No symbol table info available. > #5 0x000000000046a581 in OsInit () > No symbol table info available. > #6 > No symbol table info available. > #7 0x0000000802256a4b in DrawableGone () > from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so > No symbol table info available. > #8 0x00000000004524cc in FreeResource () > No symbol table info available. > #9 0x0000000000434c2b in ProcDestroyWindow () > No symbol table info available. > #10 0x0000000000437460 in Dispatch () > No symbol table info available. > #11 0x000000000042d7ba in main () > No symbol table info available. > (gdb) > > Is there any way I can increase amount of debugging information? > > Will launching xdm with -debug help? > I did some more testing - it seems the crash occurs when some windows are closed, not necessarily an exit from a program. However, neither gv nor acroread, exhibit this program, only Paraview. I wonder if this line #7 0x0000000802256a4b in DrawableGone () from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so is an indication of where the problem might be? How can I not load the GLX extension? The X logs indicate that this module is loaded by default. I apologise if I'm talking nonsense. many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 13:49:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17760106567A for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:49:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35348FC08 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:49:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so5804260vws.13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 06:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.162.148 with SMTP id v20mr3211022vcx.36.1279547380882; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 06:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b8sm1226328vci.21.2010.07.19.06.49.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 06:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5EB8AE5484D; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:49:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:49:37 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20100719094937.78096cc5@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: nautilus crashing on "right click > properties" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:49:42 -0000 FreeBSD 8.1-PRERELEASE / amd64 Platform Version 4.4.5 (KDE 4.4.5) I installed nautilus via the /usr/ports/sysutils/eiciel port. I can start nautilus successfully, however, whenever I right click on a file or directory and choose "properties", nautilus crashes. I tried to build it with debug support; however, I am not getting much info back. This session was run under gdb. Script started on Mon Jul 19 09:38:26 2010 GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "amd64-marcel-freebsd"... (gdb) rruunn Starting program: /usr/home/gerard/nautilus [New LWP 100093] [New Thread 8058041c0 (LWP 100093)] :1: error: unexpected character `\1', expected keyword - e.g. `style' [New Thread 808c5d4c0 (LWP 100284)] [New Thread 808c5cdc0 (LWP 100316)] [Thread 808c5d4c0 (LWP 100284) exited] [New Thread 808c5c500 (LWP 100284)] [New Thread 808c5c340 (LWP 100386)] [New Thread 808c5b8c0 (LWP 100417)] [New Thread 808c5b700 (LWP 100419)] [Thread 808c5c500 (LWP 100284) exited] [Thread 808c5b700 (LWP 100419) exited] [Thread 808c5b8c0 (LWP 100417) exited] [Thread 808c5cdc0 (LWP 100316) exited] [Thread 808c5c340 (LWP 100386) exited] [New Thread 808c5d4c0 (LWP 100284)] (nautilus:51180): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion `hash_table != NULL' failed (nautilus:51180): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration system was not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init? (nautilus:51180): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion `hash_table != NULL' failed (nautilus:51180): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration system was not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init? ** Eel:ERROR:eel-wrap-table.c:494:wrap_table_get_num_fitting: assertion failed: (max_child_size > 0) Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted. [Switching to Thread 8058041c0 (LWP 100093)] 0x00000008052aad7c in thr_kill () from /lib/libc.so.7 (gdb) rruunn   bbtt ffuullll #0 0x00000008052aad7c in thr_kill () from /lib/libc.so.7 No symbol table info available. #1 0x0000000805344b6b in abort () from /lib/libc.so.7 No symbol table info available. #2 0x0000000803b46f35 in g_assertion_message () from /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #3 0x0000000803b474a2 in g_assertion_message_expr () from /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #4 0x00000000005823bd in wrap_table_get_num_fitting (available=370, spacing=0, max_child_size=0) at eel-wrap-table.c:494 num = 8 __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "wrap_table_get_num_fitting" #5 0x0000000000582570 in wrap_table_layout (wrap_table=0x8092f2b30) at eel-wrap-table.c:521 iterator = (GList *) 0x7fffffffb770 pos = {x = 12, y = 12} max_child_dimensions = {width = 0, height = 0} content_bounds = {x0 = 12, y0 = 12, x1 = 382, y1 = 276} num_cols = 8 __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "wrap_table_layout" #6 0x00000000005817f5 in eel_wrap_table_size_allocate (widget=0x8092f2b30, allocation=0x7fffffffbaf0) at eel-wrap-table.c:312 wrap_table = (EelWrapTable *) 0x8092f2b30 __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "eel_wrap_table_size_allocate" #7 0x00000008038add8a in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #8 0x00000008038c14a7 in g_signal_parse_name () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #9 0x00000008038c36c2 in g_signal_emit_valist () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #10 0x00000008038c3ad3 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #11 0x00000008014e6008 in gtk_widget_size_allocate () from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #12 0x00000008014dd99e in gtk_viewport_new () from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #13 0x00000008038add8a in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #14 0x00000008038c14a7 in g_signal_parse_name () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #15 0x00000008038c36c2 in g_signal_emit_valist () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #16 0x00000008038c3ad3 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #17 0x00000008014e6008 in gtk_widget_size_allocate () from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #18 0x000000080143240c in gtk_scrolled_window_new () from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #19 0x00000008038add8a in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #20 0x00000008038c14a7 in g_signal_parse_name () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #21 0x00000008038c36c2 in g_signal_emit_valist () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #22 0x00000008038c3ad3 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #23 0x00000008014e6008 in gtk_widget_size_allocate () from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #24 0x00000008013f792c in gtk_notebook_new () from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #25 0x00000008038add8a in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- No symbol table info available. #26 0x00000008038c14a7 in g_signal_parse_name () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #27 0x00000008038c36c2 in g_signal_emit_valist () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #28 0x00000008038c3ad3 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #29 0x00000008014e6008 in gtk_widget_size_allocate () from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #30 0x0000000801326a22 in gtk_box_pack_start_defaults () from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #31 0x00000008038add8a in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #32 0x00000008038c14a7 in g_signal_parse_name () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #33 0x00000008038c36c2 in g_signal_emit_valist () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #34 0x00000008038c3ad3 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #35 0x00000008014e6008 in gtk_widget_size_allocate () from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #36 0x00000008014f6b32 in gtk_window_new () from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #37 0x00000008038adcbe in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #38 0x00000008038c14a7 in g_signal_parse_name () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #39 0x00000008038c36c2 in g_signal_emit_valist () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #40 0x00000008038c3ad3 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #41 0x00000008014e6008 in gtk_widget_size_allocate () from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #42 0x00000008014f7fff in gtk_window_new () from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #43 0x00000008038adcbe in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #44 0x00000008038c14a7 in g_signal_parse_name () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #45 0x00000008038c36c2 in g_signal_emit_valist () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #46 0x00000008038c3ad3 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #47 0x00000008014e8a89 in gtk_widget_show () from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #48 0x00000000004b2b01 in is_directory_ready_callback (file=0x80ae1e9c0, data=0x80901f550) at fm-properties-window.c:5356 new_window = (FMPropertiesWindow *) 0x8059d85c0 startup_data = (StartupData *) 0x80901f550 #49 0x00000000004d05a2 in ready_callback_call (directory=0x8058f93c0, callback=0x8093ed9a0) at nautilus-directory-async.c:1304 file_list = (GList *) 0x42d384 #50 0x00000000004d19d8 in call_ready_callbacks_at_idle (callback_data=0x8058f93c0) at nautilus-directory-async.c:1886 directory = (NautilusDirectory *) 0x8058f93c0 node = (GList *) 0x80928b6c0 next = (GList *) 0x0 callback = (ReadyCallback *) 0x8093ed9a0 #51 0x0000000803b23882 in g_main_context_dispatch () from /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #52 0x0000000803b27092 in g_main_context_check () from /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- No symbol table info available. #53 0x0000000803b274b5 in g_main_loop_run () from /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #54 0x00000008013d0452 in gtk_main () from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #55 0x0000000000447525 in main (argc=1, argv=0x7fffffffe3e0) at nautilus-main.c:544 kill_shell = 0 no_default_window = 0 browser_window = 0 no_desktop = 0 version = 0 autostart_mode = 0 autostart_id = 0x0 geometry = (gchar *) 0x0 remaining = (gchar **) 0x0 perform_self_check = 0 application = (NautilusApplication *) 0x8058318f0 context = (GOptionContext *) 0x805845040 file = (GFile *) 0x8053273ea uri = 0x1 uris = (char **) 0x0 uris_array = (GPtrArray *) 0x1 error = (GError *) 0x0 i = 0 options = {{long_name = 0x593c4e "check", short_name = 99 'c', flags = 0, arg = G_OPTION_ARG_NONE, arg_data = 0x7fffffffe324, description = 0x593c58 "Perform a quick set of self-check tests.", arg_description = 0x0}, {long_name = 0x593c81 "version", short_name = 0 '\0', flags = 0, arg = G_OPTION_ARG_NONE, arg_data = 0x7fffffffe338, description = 0x593c90 "Show the version of the program.", arg_description = 0x0}, {long_name = 0x593cb1 "geometry", short_name = 103 'g', flags = 0, arg = G_OPTION_ARG_STRING, arg_data = 0x7fffffffe330, description = 0x593cc0 "Create the initial window with the given geometry.", arg_description = 0x593cf3 "GEOMETRY"}, {long_name = 0x593cfc "no-default-window", short_name = 110 'n', flags = 0, arg = G_OPTION_ARG_NONE, arg_data = 0x7fffffffe344, description = 0x593d10 "Only create windows for explicitly specified URIs.", arg_description = 0x0}, { long_name = 0x593d43 "no-desktop", short_name = 0 '\0', flags = 0, arg = G_OPTION_ARG_NONE, arg_data = 0x7fffffffe33c, description = 0x593d50 "Do not manage the desktop (ignore the preference set in the preferences dialog).", arg_description = 0x0}, {long_name = 0x593da1 "browser", short_name = 0 '\0', flags = 0, arg = G_OPTION_ARG_NONE, arg_data = 0x7fffffffe340, description = 0x593da9 "open a browser window.", arg_description = 0x0}, {long_name = 0x593dc0 "quit", short_name = 113 'q', flags = 0, arg = G_OPTION_ARG_NONE, arg_data = 0x7fffffffe348, description = 0x593dc5 "Quit Nautilus.", arg_description = 0x0}, {long_name = 0x593dd4 "", short_name = 0 '\0', flags = 0, arg = G_OPTION_ARG_STRING_ARRAY, arg_data = 0x7fffffffe328, description = 0x0, arg_description = 0x593dd5 "[URI...]"}, {long_name = 0x0, short_name = 0 '\0', flags = 0, arg = G_OPTION_ARG_NONE, arg_data = 0x0, description = 0x0, arg_description = 0x0}} (gdb) (gdb) qquuiitt The program is running. Exit anyway? (y or n) y Script done on Mon Jul 19 09:39:18 2010 I am not sure if the problem is actually with nautilus or eiciel. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Excellent time to become a missing person. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 14:21:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EAC2106567A for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:21:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swell.k@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17398FC14 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:21:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so2409760fxm.13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:21:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:references :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=Fd7yKBC15NtuapYH2OM/MsXqOjd0B1nJVxdUzAWXILc=; b=mm9mQsihNhdnUaGvY4amRyoK7JyzRvsUVZOt3HUGACO5tHgJT3v5ZXMI1RdIo90xUi UXO9Mphqk3S+OVf0/vcAoHjPq7D32dLxyEl5Vn9V/BhgeDfLDQrfo0rJEM5Hto+HYoP3 PlpNHAcXBECqmSGyFypzj4C+nkg66J2VnTLCM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=HN+3XEcJWj55E25nUEVnGafyvqEa1oM4W97UluY4dJjfWTHNoApNGLpR2Ya4ENWpFm bYtfdpJR6fGk1admnqEXr/Sb5n0I0fX5qFN3goR1b8qvPng2S4vTh3jo+2kdn9pqa3LT q+eGyvCz4V/YbKJjjpeFYsYhQzxAxhG2Xwd+w= Received: by 10.223.110.73 with SMTP id m9mr3814957fap.25.1279549276840; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (anonymizer4.torservers.net [113.212.97.156]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d15sm755455faa.3.2010.07.19.07.21.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:21:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Anonymous To: Jim References: Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:20:52 +0400 In-Reply-To: (Jim's message of "Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:12:02 -0400") Message-ID: <86r5izft8b.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sockets stuck in use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:21:18 -0000 Jim writes: > I was working on an application I've been developing, and I closed the > last instance a bit over 12 hours ago, but some of the sockets are > still stuck in use: > [sjss@elrond ~/dev/pipe/scripts]$ netstat | grep -e 'tcp' | grep 9612 > tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.80.42464 192.168.1.2.9612 SYN_SENT > tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.80.35742 192.168.1.2.9612 CLOSED > tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.80.46116 192.168.1.2.9612 CLOSED > tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.80.36792 192.168.1.2.9612 CLOSED > > > Is there any way to get rid of them without restarting the machine? I > was playing with sockopt SO_KEEPALIVE and SO_LINGER when I caused this > issue.. Does tcpdrop(8) help? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 14:24:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 353FB106566C; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:24:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A7A8FC12; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OarGJ-000713-Qv; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:24:08 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1OarGJ-0000Xq-Mi; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:24:07 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6JEO7U0083360; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:24:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o6JEO7Rn083359; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:24:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:24:07 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Gary Jennejohn Message-ID: <20100719142407.GB83274@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100718124411.GA74064@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20100719085013.GA82064@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20100719132831.GA83170@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20100719155533.56bc7ddf@ernst.jennejohn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100719155533.56bc7ddf@ernst.jennejohn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: x11@freebsd.org, Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg dumps core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:24:09 -0000 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 03:55:33PM +0200, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:28:31 +0100 > Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > How can I not load the GLX extension? The X logs > > indicate that this module is loaded by default. > > > > man xorg.conf > > in particular MODULE SECTION -> Disable "modulename" Gary, thank you, I disabled glx and record. /var/log/Xorg.0.log has some funny messages: (WW) "glx" will not be loaded unless you've specified it to be loaded elsewhere. (WW) "record" will not be loaded unless you've specified it to be loaded elsewhere. (II) "glx" will be loaded even though the default is to disable it. (II) "record" will be loaded even though the default is to disable it. but I don't see the modules being reported as loaded after that. So I presume the above 2 info lines are plain wrong. many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 14:24:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43E61065678 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:24:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gljennjohn@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720B58FC25 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:24:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13so244216wwb.31 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:24:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PepaCrQvHXDigp5SMdxvFZOhNWH3xAL37mSUVVApgY0=; b=xaNT9eSkbEKiFPbwgFMQ+dns7ikIXPLa3sitcS6D7r6mmo+mbhJdYBsK6pYqIeY++S IKMd39cmvtYYKjlTclL+AJYhrB9qZxpxx9rcZadKFtKc7wt18g/AaUYrrfCJMHAj3Lzb ZNS/aomaosIGh2eDGzqiyOWv7Aq6p5/qO/omA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jxyvSsGSGJqZx6oNnWk3536eBmXwfQhvXnKtgr9VG9+KeM7AfHuowiH9eW3NPHKVgJ F5E/5iFZlCVTFqmeY1CYE6/wiBk9B0Ef9mSnnHEQV+OmnCqZC/QPFsKrIPBJuyq9zQ2m oShUPX1jk23JHLyMZJVPWi+MprHFikMYkqxmI= Received: by 10.227.127.149 with SMTP id g21mr3092637wbs.218.1279547735990; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 06:55:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ernst.jennejohn.org (p578E383E.dip.t-dialin.net [87.142.56.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a1sm41133878wbb.8.2010.07.19.06.55.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 06:55:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:55:33 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20100719155533.56bc7ddf@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <20100719132831.GA83170@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100718124411.GA74064@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20100719085013.GA82064@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20100719132831.GA83170@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg dumps core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gljennjohn@googlemail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:24:44 -0000 On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:28:31 +0100 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > How can I not load the GLX extension? The X logs > indicate that this module is loaded by default. > man xorg.conf in particular MODULE SECTION -> Disable "modulename" -- Gary Jennejohn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 14:26:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E8310656AB; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:26:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88AE8FC17; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OarII-00078l-Oq; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:26:12 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1OarII-0001q6-I5; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:26:10 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6JEQA08083372; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:26:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o6JEQADZ083371; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:26:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:26:10 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20100719142610.GC83274@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100718124411.GA74064@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20100719085013.GA82064@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20100719132831.GA83170@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100719132831.GA83170@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg dumps core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:26:13 -0000 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 02:28:31PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 09:50:13AM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 01:44:11PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > I've seen this problem before, but on > > > a complex configuration: Xorg running on > > > FreeBSD spar64 and connecting via "-query" > > > to clients running on FreeBSD ia64. > > > > > > Now I get this core dump on a simple amd64 > > > installation, so I'm trying to provide > > > a full report. > > > > > > On amd64 -current (r210043) I've > > > xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > > > xf86-video-ati-6.13.0 > > > xdm-1.1.8_2 > > > > > > I start X with > > > > > > ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm on secure > > > > > > in /etc/ttys > > > > > > I open ssh -XY connection to a linux server. > > > > > > I start an application (Paraview, www.paraview.org). > > > > > > When I close the Paraview normally - Xorg dumps core. > > > > > > After 1-2 seconds I'm back at the xdm login screen. > > > > > > Here's xdm.log > > > > > > % cat /val/log/xdm.log > > > X.Org X Server 1.7.5 > > > Release Date: 2010-02-16 > > > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 > > > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT amd64 > > > Current Operating System: FreeBSD mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #0 r210043: Thu Jul 15 12:01:58 BST 2010 root@mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUZI amd64 > > > Build Date: 16 June 2010 02:51:23PM > > > > > > Current version of pixman: 0.16.6 > > > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org > > > to make sure that you have the latest version. > > > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > > > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > > > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > > > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun Jul 18 13:16:26 2010 > > > (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" > > > (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM > > > [dri] Disabling DRI. > > > XRANDR name: VGA-0 > > > Connector: VGA > > > CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1 > > > DDC reg: 0x7e50 > > > XRANDR name: LVDS > > > Connector: LVDS > > > LCD1: INTERNAL_LVTM1 > > > DDC reg: 0x7e40 > > > Dac detection success > > > finished output detect: 0 > > > finished output detect: 1 > > > finished all detect > > > Dac detection success > > > Output LCD1 disable success > > > Blank CRTC 0 success > > > Disable CRTC 0 success > > > Blank CRTC 1 success > > > Disable CRTC 1 success > > > Output CRT1 disable success > > > Output LCD1 disable success > > > Blank CRTC 0 success > > > Disable CRTC 0 success > > > Blank CRTC 1 success > > > Disable CRTC 1 success > > > Output LCD1 disable success > > > Blank CRTC 0 success > > > Disable CRTC 0 success > > > Mode 1280x800 - 1440 823 10 > > > Picked PLL 0 > > > best_freq: 71152 > > > best_feedback_div: 159 > > > best_frac_feedback_div: 0 > > > best_ref_div: 2 > > > best_post_div: 16 > > > Set CRTC 0 PLL success > > > Set CRTC Timing success > > > Set CRTC 0 Overscan success > > > Not using RMX > > > scaler 0 setup success > > > Set CRTC 0 Source success > > > crtc 0 YUV disable setup success > > > Output digital setup success > > > Output LCD1 enable success > > > Enable CRTC 0 success > > > Unblank CRTC 0 success > > > Output CRT1 disable success > > > Blank CRTC 1 success > > > Disable CRTC 1 success > > > record: RECORD extension enabled at configure time. > > > record: This extension is known to be broken, disabling extension now.. > > > record: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20500 > > > Bus error: 10 at address 0x802257ddb > > > > > > Fatal server error: > > > Caught signal 10 (Bus error: 10). Server aborting > > > > > > > > > Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support > > > at http://wiki.x.org > > > for help. > > > Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information. > > > > > > Output LCD1 disable success > > > Blank CRTC 0 success > > > Disable CRTC 0 success > > > Blank CRTC 1 success > > > Disable CRTC 1 success > > > Enable CRTC 0 success > > > Unblank CRTC 0 success > > > XIO: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0" > > > after 131 requests (131 known processed) with 0 events remaining. > > > xdm error (pid 1146): Server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly: 1536 > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's the gdb output: > > > > > > > > > GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] > > > Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > > > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are > > > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. > > > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > > > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. > > > This GDB was configured as "amd64-marcel-freebsd"...(no debugging symbols found)... > > > Core was generated by `Xorg'. > > > Program terminated with signal 6, Aborted. > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libpciaccess.so.0...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libpciaccess.so.0 > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXfont.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXfont.so.1 > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9 > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libfontenc.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libfontenc.so.1 > > > Reading symbols from /lib/libz.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /lib/libz.so.6 > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6 > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libpixman-1.so.9...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libpixman-1.so.9 > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libhal.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libhal.so.1 > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libdbus-1.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libdbus-1.so.3 > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 > > > Reading symbols from /lib/libcrypto.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /lib/libcrypto.so.6 > > > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/librpcsvc.so.5...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/librpcsvc.so.5 > > > Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.5...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.5 > > > Reading symbols from /lib/libthr.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /lib/libthr.so.3 > > > Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.7...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.7 > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libdrm.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libdrm.so.2 > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libvgahw.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libvgahw.so > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libint10.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libint10.so > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libxaa.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libxaa.so > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libexpat.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libexpat.so.6 > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so > > > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so > > > Reading symbols from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > > > Loaded symbols for /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 > > > #0 0x0000000801a30d8c in kill () from /lib/libc.so.7 > > > [New Thread 801c071c0 (LWP 100123)] > > > (gdb) quit > > > > Does bt help at all: > > > > (gdb) bt full > > #0 0x0000000801a30d8c in kill () from /lib/libc.so.7 > > No symbol table info available. > > #1 0x0000000801a2fb4b in abort () from /lib/libc.so.7 > > No symbol table info available. > > #2 0x0000000000476744 in ddxGiveUp () > > No symbol table info available. > > #3 0x000000000046fcdd in AbortServer () > > No symbol table info available. > > #4 0x000000000047035f in FatalError () > > No symbol table info available. > > #5 0x000000000046a581 in OsInit () > > No symbol table info available. > > #6 > > No symbol table info available. > > #7 0x0000000802256a4b in DrawableGone () > > from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so > > No symbol table info available. > > #8 0x00000000004524cc in FreeResource () > > No symbol table info available. > > #9 0x0000000000434c2b in ProcDestroyWindow () > > No symbol table info available. > > #10 0x0000000000437460 in Dispatch () > > No symbol table info available. > > #11 0x000000000042d7ba in main () > > No symbol table info available. > > (gdb) > > > > Is there any way I can increase amount of debugging information? > > > > Will launching xdm with -debug help? > > > > I did some more testing - it seems the crash occurs > when some windows are closed, not necessarily an > exit from a program. However, neither gv nor acroread, > exhibit this program, only Paraview. > > I wonder if this line > > #7 0x0000000802256a4b in DrawableGone () > from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so > > is an indication of where the problem might be? > > How can I not load the GLX extension? The X logs > indicate that this module is loaded by default. well.. with glx disabled the Paraview refuses to start. I'll ask in the Paraview list as well. Still, even if there's a problem in PV, if it crashes X, it must be X problem too? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 14:46:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A63A106566B for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:46:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9128FC0A for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf22 with SMTP id 22so5339948wyf.13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:46:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FnGKnMwbUWIYzMwrt3mJwIR5IS85sXOAsdbpCvhqEbQ=; b=I7fwmkxlm6nceFwn/oxeVlIwmaNCisTfhJbChyOhrAMfizbhbnf6kFlmfvRMLTuzOd 9/C+LR8Hz+BLd/72Amgz33V4PLzwvJXfcQsAFigHU6bMpCheDBA+KIC8ZP8JvB0R+QLF m2rNreXxonpb0O7rYltxI6VBRkdL36Hu+8ugA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PWfe4R7VJyhOpH2zYpPPVGIP4x5gcpf1fjptn6GfLBzbWrMSzSyl8VXDorjwJM91cN TipwA1HZmlGBkHZwB336HSapADpHfNPQMSi1LJB1YbM38zGvCYlCX9eVQBhrq+7YDpVw ORJ78wjI62lZgI5Q3N5Fbf1hs3fZyltcDiexc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.232.229 with SMTP id n79mr3998622weq.52.1279550771436; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.229.202 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:46:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C419944.8030702@locolomo.org> References: <4C3F91CF.5090206@locolomo.org> <4C419944.8030702@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:46:11 -0400 Message-ID: From: alexus To: Erik Norgaard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipnat.conf - map and rdr won't work! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: google@alexus.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:46:14 -0000 On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Erik Norgaard wrot= e: > On 16/07/10 02.56, alexus wrote: > >>>>> su-3.2# cat /etc/ipnat.rules >>>>> map fxp0 lama -> =C2=A0 =C2=A00/32 >>>>> rdr fxp0 64.52.58.58 port ssh -> =C2=A0 =C2=A0lama port ssh tcp >>> >>> What's that first rule supposed to do? >> >> provides a NAT within jail > > Just guessing, try to put the rdr rule first. Another thing, the > firewall/nat may be loaded before starting the jail and thus unaware of > interfaces etc assigned to the jail. tried switching rules - didn't help tried restarting ipnat after everything is started it >>>>> su-3.2# ifconfig >>>>> vr0: flags=3D8943 >>>>> =C2=A0metric >>>>> 0 mtu 1500 >>>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0inet 172.16.172.16 netmask 0xffffffff broa= dcast 172.16.172.16 >>>>> fxp0: flags=3D8843 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0metric 0 >>>>> mtu >>>>> 1500 >>>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0inet 64.52.58.58 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadc= ast 64.52.58.63 >>> >>> Where is this? this "su-3.2" is a bit confusing, would be useful to set >>> your >>> hostname to "jail" within the jail... >> >> su-3.2 is a host environment where jail is hosted > > And from within the jail, what do you see? From what I understand > 172.16.172.16 is the jail IP? from host's rc.conf su-3.2# grep ^jail /etc/rc.conf jail_enable=3D"YES" jail_lama_devfs_enable=3D"YES" jail_lama_hostname=3D"lama" jail_lama_ip=3D"172.16.172.16" jail_lama_rootdir=3D"/usr/jail/lama" jail_list=3D"lama" su-3.2# this is within jail -bash-3.2$ ifconfig vr0: flags=3D8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=3D2808 ether 00:19:5b:68:9b:01 inet 172.16.172.16 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.172.16 media: Ethernet autoselect (none) status: no carrier fxp0: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mtu 150= 0 options=3D2009 ether 00:0f:fe:aa:f4:61 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active plip0: flags=3D108810 metric 0 mt= u 1500 lo0: flags=3D8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 -bash-3.2$ >>> I think it is typical for jails to clone the loopback interface for thi= s >>> setup. >> >> not sure what you mean by this... >> if you referring this statement as if you though this is jail itself >> then >> this is not jail this is host environment (where jail is hosted) > >>> Use tcpdump, you should see if your rdr/map rules work as expected. Als= o, >>> pfctl -ss and similar. >> >> su-3.2# pfctl -ss >> pfctl: /dev/pf: No such file or directory >> su-3.2# > > Ah, you use ipfilter? yes, i use ipfilter & ipnat su-3.2# grep ^ip /etc/rc.conf ipfilter_enable=3D"YES" ipmon_enable=3D"YES" ipnat_enable=3D"YES" su-3.2# >> i don't know how to use tcpdump, can you provide exact syntax so i can r= un >> it? > > The man-page is excelent. tried that, unfortunately not really sure what am i doing.. still >>> anyone? >>> >>> If nobody replies, maybe try to rephrase your question, investigate >>> further >>> and provide additional information rather than just repost. >> >> i was under impression that i pretty much covered all basis, or at >> least i thought i so ... apparently not... > > Honestly, I don't have a clear picture of what works and what doesn't or > where. You haven't posted your jail config from rc.conf and you could hel= p > by making it clear when running any command that this is in the jail, jai= l# > this is on the hosting system hostname# and this is the client client# > etc... > > BR, Erik > > > lama is a jail environment (see rc.conf output from earlier) su-3.2 is a host environment any other questions? please just ask i'll provide you with whatever information is needed thanks again --=20 http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 14:53:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000FA106566B for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:53:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC4A8FC14 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:53:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oarie-0002CG-KG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:53:24 +0200 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:53:24 +0200 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:53:24 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:53:33 +0200 Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100518 Thunderbird/3.0.4 In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Subject: Re: 8.1-rc2 journal overflow error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:53:28 -0000 On 07/19/10 15:16, FRLinux wrote: > Hello, I am using a hefty server with a single SSD drive as the main > drive (Corsair CMFSSD-64D1). It worked nicely until today where I got > a journal overflow error, i took a screenshot here: > http://picasaweb.google.fr/frlinux/Computers#5495597160219915298 There could be several reasons for this specific panic but as a general solution you will have to increase your journal size. For start, try doubling it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 15:01:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE75106566C for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:01:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 69DDC8FC29 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:01:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32338 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jul 2010 15:01:48 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1279551708; bh=SiS0RsQ8dixQTZkU0I3hBnT2wvY9wUQDxaJtb7Pu7Ko=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ChLBRUYfgwovyoj+BHRiJWtWesMGaLsxYXXCfIU7v1c8KHfAxREzOHYw3NPRbeU7R78h1OnmvQehB5cbHF8VPLq7gCSjGUenz0m87/bpA228ypQfOkOmfQiHxBzFuDhl7om1aEpE3/YTP0FBOlfzQ2TV2XaVfB7DfirBuQ3tpdc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ye7EY5yxFqDbsMfJDuoSqkzp7NEmIoOdoM1ZkH+stYX6UoXlNHygU4J38s4Q1fl+Q0NQ3EXZv/vbjYRFnue/FpPRzCuib3mvkYGR+0Laf3+KUf1Xs0t5k1MMzyFtbf8fGonG++pUnb27u1LLk0rgG/0imLdrFgxpvcgeU/2JaN4=; Message-ID: <687306.54817.qm@web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: NVCg5m0VM1m1PxbeYCQGNTf4mEcMxMwFA6sz3aNZ33YOLo3 JSmTRgBbdXgidN1Z.maMQjSBO1v2MGrfZFpRmj.VWIxRLKuqOy2vCHmqmMAs S7ZEgcJz86jnLm3jOsi.1iShEz37z4qXyyr4U8ISpjHZaWSNld7FhN2Z7.ht Iw.fR3Hh3BNerAdNNxkeM7Yxipij5xs8Do3KCcvpMXDRj_ya3prKrwUwcE0k avkyrf865hWQSGtu2sy25k1snN.Wke5sacA71_s4- Received: from [121.7.94.167] by web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:01:48 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.2.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:01:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Is Mobile Intel HM57 Express chipset compatible with FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:01:49 -0000 Hi all I'm planing to buy a Dell Vostro laptop which comes with a Mobile Intel HM57 Express chipset. Could I know from the list, is FreeBSD either 7.2 or 7.3 compatible with the above chipset? Above laptop comes with Nvidia Geforce 310M graphics chipset and I plan to install KDE 4.4 too, could I get a graphical desktop running FreeBSD 7 series? Many thanks in advance. Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 15:18:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73BB51065673 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:18:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frlinux@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A548FC1D for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:18:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so2469800fxm.13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:18:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=5K/bMx3CKYGRRqXoK72fK5ffQFXAyEyhgqXInJPCsfc=; b=QCPu+P5dizk0uXK3WZSBCl4YrIO0vfR/6YbrImY/RODpDvRyu4dn8UpkVu3LGUof8L 7o3zkZzLVjqVHT8pLtQnR37Vdpnb6IAdNK72/Run9ADgDSrDxnK0w8qW27x6aMMmUTEN hunIWlylD3wp9IohNSM2qeWwZXW1SR3s7PPok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=UQXU3OT3pOSpBQkpqWfRlwnwH0R1DwD+j3ZLV3uDgpWHak/BIAIfdpaNTbHt063iR7 guKXNB/5+kOZjByZUlJSGKtFaKEPRNTYMuFEtlxyDDlXF3t9ZjsnRYtCGd6H+D6+ybja QyW+Vu0X8iZUw+Y3A5hbl8MbLVQWQcJvbVawQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.172.69 with SMTP id z5mr363939hbe.170.1279552694104; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.177.65 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:18:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:18:14 +0100 Message-ID: From: FRLinux To: Ivan Voras Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.1-rc2 journal overflow error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:18:16 -0000 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Ivan Voras wrote: > There could be several reasons for this specific panic but as a general > solution you will have to increase your journal size. For start, try > doubling it. Thanks for this, i will look into it. I found the reason of the crash although I do not know why just yet. Apparently polling of munin plugins caused this. As soon as I disabled it, it no longer crashed. Cheers, Steph From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 15:19:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4917D106567D; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@freebsd.org) Received: from av-tac-rtp.cisco.com (hen.cisco.com [64.102.19.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146148FC0C; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:19:39 +0000 (UTC) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from rooster.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-rtp.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6JFJcY8027264; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:19:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 108-123-232-146.pools.spcsdns.net (jclarke-pc.cisco.com [172.18.254.236]) by rooster.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6JFJWlF026327; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C446D04.2020608@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:19:32 -0400 From: Joe Marcus Clarke Organization: FreeBSD, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100719094937.78096cc5@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20100719094937.78096cc5@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gnome@freebsd.org, Jerry Subject: Re: nautilus crashing on "right click > properties" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:19:40 -0000 On 7/19/10 9:49 AM, Jerry wrote: > FreeBSD 8.1-PRERELEASE / amd64 > Platform Version 4.4.5 (KDE 4.4.5) > > I installed nautilus via the /usr/ports/sysutils/eiciel port. I can > start nautilus successfully, however, whenever I right click on a file > or directory and choose "properties", nautilus crashes. I tried to > build it with debug support; however, I am not getting much info back. > This session was run under gdb. > > Script started on Mon Jul 19 09:38:26 2010 > GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] > Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and > you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under > certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for > details. This GDB was configured as "amd64-marcel-freebsd"... > (gdb) rruunn > Starting program: /usr/home/gerard/nautilus > [New LWP 100093] > [New Thread 8058041c0 (LWP 100093)] > :1: error: unexpected character `\1', expected keyword - e.g. `style' > [New Thread 808c5d4c0 (LWP 100284)] > [New Thread 808c5cdc0 (LWP 100316)] > [Thread 808c5d4c0 (LWP 100284) exited] > [New Thread 808c5c500 (LWP 100284)] > [New Thread 808c5c340 (LWP 100386)] > [New Thread 808c5b8c0 (LWP 100417)] > [New Thread 808c5b700 (LWP 100419)] > [Thread 808c5c500 (LWP 100284) exited] > [Thread 808c5b700 (LWP 100419) exited] > [Thread 808c5b8c0 (LWP 100417) exited] > [Thread 808c5cdc0 (LWP 100316) exited] > [Thread 808c5c340 (LWP 100386) exited] > [New Thread 808c5d4c0 (LWP 100284)] > > (nautilus:51180): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion > `hash_table != NULL' failed > > (nautilus:51180): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the > configuration system was not initialized. Did you call > _gnome_vfs_configuration_init? > > (nautilus:51180): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion > `hash_table != NULL' failed > > (nautilus:51180): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the > configuration system was not initialized. Did you call > _gnome_vfs_configuration_init? ** > Eel:ERROR:eel-wrap-table.c:494:wrap_table_get_num_fitting: assertion > failed: (max_child_size > 0) > > Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted. > [Switching to Thread 8058041c0 (LWP 100093)] > 0x00000008052aad7c in thr_kill () from /lib/libc.so.7 > (gdb) rruunn   bbtt ffuullll > #0 0x00000008052aad7c in thr_kill () from /lib/libc.so.7 > No symbol table info available. > #1 0x0000000805344b6b in abort () from /lib/libc.so.7 > No symbol table info available. > #2 0x0000000803b46f35 in g_assertion_message () > from /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #3 0x0000000803b474a2 in g_assertion_message_expr () > from /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #4 0x00000000005823bd in wrap_table_get_num_fitting (available=370, > spacing=0, max_child_size=0) at eel-wrap-table.c:494 num = 8 > __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "wrap_table_get_num_fitting" > #5 0x0000000000582570 in wrap_table_layout (wrap_table=0x8092f2b30) at > eel-wrap-table.c:521 iterator = (GList *) 0x7fffffffb770 > pos = {x = 12, y = 12} > max_child_dimensions = {width = 0, height = 0} > content_bounds = {x0 = 12, y0 = 12, x1 = 382, y1 = 276} > num_cols = 8 > __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "wrap_table_layout" > #6 0x00000000005817f5 in eel_wrap_table_size_allocate > (widget=0x8092f2b30, allocation=0x7fffffffbaf0) at eel-wrap-table.c:312 > wrap_table = (EelWrapTable *) 0x8092f2b30 __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = > "eel_wrap_table_size_allocate" #7 0x00000008038add8a in > g_closure_invoke () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol > table info available. #8 0x00000008038c14a7 in g_signal_parse_name () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #9 0x00000008038c36c2 in g_signal_emit_valist () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #10 0x00000008038c3ad3 in g_signal_emit () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #11 0x00000008014e6008 in gtk_widget_size_allocate () > from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #12 0x00000008014dd99e in gtk_viewport_new () > from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #13 0x00000008038add8a in g_closure_invoke () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #14 0x00000008038c14a7 in g_signal_parse_name () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #15 0x00000008038c36c2 in g_signal_emit_valist () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #16 0x00000008038c3ad3 in g_signal_emit () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #17 0x00000008014e6008 in gtk_widget_size_allocate () > from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #18 0x000000080143240c in gtk_scrolled_window_new () > from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #19 0x00000008038add8a in g_closure_invoke () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #20 0x00000008038c14a7 in g_signal_parse_name () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #21 0x00000008038c36c2 in g_signal_emit_valist () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #22 0x00000008038c3ad3 in g_signal_emit () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #23 0x00000008014e6008 in gtk_widget_size_allocate () > from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #24 0x00000008013f792c in gtk_notebook_new () > from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #25 0x00000008038add8a in g_closure_invoke () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 ---Type to continue, > or q to quit--- No symbol table info available. > #26 0x00000008038c14a7 in g_signal_parse_name () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #27 0x00000008038c36c2 in g_signal_emit_valist () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #28 0x00000008038c3ad3 in g_signal_emit () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #29 0x00000008014e6008 in gtk_widget_size_allocate () > from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #30 0x0000000801326a22 in gtk_box_pack_start_defaults () > from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #31 0x00000008038add8a in g_closure_invoke () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #32 0x00000008038c14a7 in g_signal_parse_name () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #33 0x00000008038c36c2 in g_signal_emit_valist () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #34 0x00000008038c3ad3 in g_signal_emit () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #35 0x00000008014e6008 in gtk_widget_size_allocate () > from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #36 0x00000008014f6b32 in gtk_window_new () > from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #37 0x00000008038adcbe in g_closure_invoke () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #38 0x00000008038c14a7 in g_signal_parse_name () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #39 0x00000008038c36c2 in g_signal_emit_valist () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #40 0x00000008038c3ad3 in g_signal_emit () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #41 0x00000008014e6008 in gtk_widget_size_allocate () > from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #42 0x00000008014f7fff in gtk_window_new () > from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #43 0x00000008038adcbe in g_closure_invoke () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #44 0x00000008038c14a7 in g_signal_parse_name () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #45 0x00000008038c36c2 in g_signal_emit_valist () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #46 0x00000008038c3ad3 in g_signal_emit () > from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #47 0x00000008014e8a89 in gtk_widget_show () > from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #48 0x00000000004b2b01 in is_directory_ready_callback > (file=0x80ae1e9c0, data=0x80901f550) at fm-properties-window.c:5356 > new_window = (FMPropertiesWindow *) 0x8059d85c0 startup_data = > (StartupData *) 0x80901f550 #49 0x00000000004d05a2 in > ready_callback_call (directory=0x8058f93c0, callback=0x8093ed9a0) at > nautilus-directory-async.c:1304 file_list = (GList *) 0x42d384 #50 > 0x00000000004d19d8 in call_ready_callbacks_at_idle > (callback_data=0x8058f93c0) at nautilus-directory-async.c:1886 > directory = (NautilusDirectory *) 0x8058f93c0 node = (GList *) > 0x80928b6c0 next = (GList *) 0x0 callback = (ReadyCallback *) > 0x8093ed9a0 #51 0x0000000803b23882 in g_main_context_dispatch () > from /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #52 0x0000000803b27092 in g_main_context_check () > from /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 ---Type to continue, or q > to quit--- No symbol table info available. > #53 0x0000000803b274b5 in g_main_loop_run () > from /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #54 0x00000008013d0452 in gtk_main () > from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. > #55 0x0000000000447525 in main (argc=1, argv=0x7fffffffe3e0) at > nautilus-main.c:544 kill_shell = 0 > no_default_window = 0 > browser_window = 0 > no_desktop = 0 > version = 0 > autostart_mode = 0 > autostart_id = 0x0 > geometry = (gchar *) 0x0 > remaining = (gchar **) 0x0 > perform_self_check = 0 > application = (NautilusApplication *) 0x8058318f0 > context = (GOptionContext *) 0x805845040 > file = (GFile *) 0x8053273ea > uri = 0x1 > uris = (char **) 0x0 > uris_array = (GPtrArray *) 0x1 > error = (GError *) 0x0 > i = 0 > options = {{long_name = 0x593c4e "check", short_name = 99 'c', > flags = 0, arg = G_OPTION_ARG_NONE, arg_data = 0x7fffffffe324, > description = 0x593c58 "Perform a quick set of self-check tests.", > arg_description = 0x0}, {long_name = 0x593c81 "version", short_name = 0 > '\0', flags = 0, arg = G_OPTION_ARG_NONE, arg_data = 0x7fffffffe338, > description = 0x593c90 "Show the version of the program.", > arg_description = 0x0}, {long_name = 0x593cb1 "geometry", short_name = > 103 'g', flags = 0, arg = G_OPTION_ARG_STRING, arg_data = > 0x7fffffffe330, description = 0x593cc0 "Create the initial window with > the given geometry.", arg_description = 0x593cf3 "GEOMETRY"}, > {long_name = 0x593cfc "no-default-window", short_name = 110 'n', flags > = 0, arg = G_OPTION_ARG_NONE, arg_data = 0x7fffffffe344, description = > 0x593d10 "Only create windows for explicitly specified URIs.", > arg_description = 0x0}, { long_name = 0x593d43 "no-desktop", short_name > = 0 '\0', flags = 0, arg = G_OPTION_ARG_NONE, arg_data = > 0x7fffffffe33c, description = 0x593d50 "Do not manage the desktop > (ignore the preference set in the preferences dialog).", > arg_description = 0x0}, {long_name = 0x593da1 "browser", short_name = 0 > '\0', flags = 0, arg = G_OPTION_ARG_NONE, arg_data = 0x7fffffffe340, > description = 0x593da9 "open a browser window.", arg_description = > 0x0}, {long_name = 0x593dc0 "quit", short_name = 113 'q', flags = 0, > arg = G_OPTION_ARG_NONE, arg_data = 0x7fffffffe348, description = > 0x593dc5 "Quit Nautilus.", arg_description = 0x0}, {long_name = > 0x593dd4 "", short_name = 0 '\0', flags = 0, arg = > G_OPTION_ARG_STRING_ARRAY, arg_data = 0x7fffffffe328, description = > 0x0, arg_description = 0x593dd5 "[URI...]"}, {long_name = 0x0, > short_name = 0 '\0', flags = 0, arg = G_OPTION_ARG_NONE, arg_data = > 0x0, description = 0x0, arg_description = 0x0}} (gdb) (gdb) qquuiitt > The program is running. Exit anyway? (y or n) y > > Script done on Mon Jul 19 09:39:18 2010 > > > I am not sure if the problem is actually with nautilus or eiciel. > Most likely eiciel given the errors. Remove it, and see if the crash persists. Joe -- Joe Marcus Clarke FreeBSD GNOME Team :: gnome@FreeBSD.org FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 16:38:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBE5106567C for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:38:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0738FC2F for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:38:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.local (business-088-079-092-162.static.arcor-ip.net [88.79.92.162]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 80ED61C0871; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:38:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C447F7F.6020308@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:38:23 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: google@alexus.org References: <4C3F91CF.5090206@locolomo.org> <4C419944.8030702@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: alexus , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipnat.conf - map and rdr won't work! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:38:28 -0000 On 19/07/10 16.46, alexus wrote: >>>> Use tcpdump, you should see if your rdr/map rules work as expected. Also, >>>> pfctl -ss and similar. >>> i don't know how to use tcpdump, can you provide exact syntax so i can run >>> it? >> >> The man-page is excelent. > > tried that, unfortunately not really sure what am i doing.. still Can't help you more, really, you need to investigate where packets are dropped, tcpdump is a great tool and the man-page is excelent, can't explain it better, if you don't like tcpdump then use any other packet sniffing tool at hand, snort for example. Do packets can get dropped because of your firewall default policy? For stealth it may be set to simply drop packets which result in a connection time-out rather than send a TCP-RST. Do packets get dropped because of nat on the way in? or on the way out? What if you just disable ipnat? What if you flush the firewall rules? (disconnect from the Internet first) Do you have any logs in the jail that indicate that the first packet is actually received? Do your firewall log connections? If not, see how you can enable logs on all rules to get more information. Can you connect out from the jail, to external servers? only to the jail hosting server? Did the jail's ssh log tell anything? You wrote you can connect with ssh from the hosting server to the jail, but it took a long time, did you investigate this? Is there some DNS issue that times out and causes the connection to fail? Can you ping your jail? Can you ping out? Default route is configured? There are tons of tests you can do to figure out what's failing. BR, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 17:16:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9B9106566B for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:16:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmcgrew1@mail.csuchico.edu) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764518FC13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:16:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so6042141iwn.13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.155.206 with SMTP id t14mr6474684ibw.34.1279559807878; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:16:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.150.196 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:16:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Michael McGrew Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:16:27 -0700 Message-ID: To: "Timur I. Bakeyev" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: samba pam_smbpass & passwd seg fault X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:16:51 -0000 Thank you for the response, I have the latest port version of samba, samba34-3.4.8. The core does not give much info here is a snippet of the end of the trace. Here is a link to the end of the truss trace of the process. http://mmcgrew.net/out #636 0x792f6e69622f7273 in ?? () #637 0x0064777373617070 in ?? () #638 0x247c8d48002454ff in ?? () #639 0x01a1c0c748006a10 in ?? () #640 0x66fdebf4050f0000 in ?? () #641 0x9066669066669066 in ?? () #642 0x00007fffffffec18 in ?? () #643 0x0000000000000001 in ?? () #644 0x00007fffffffec28 in ?? () #645 0x0000000000000010 in ?? () Cannot access memory at address 0x800000000000 /var/log/messages Jul 19 10:11:49 kernel: Jul 19 10:11:49 kernel: pid 58460 (passwd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:31 AM, Timur I. Bakeyev wrote: > Hi! > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Michael McGrew > wrote: >> I'm trying to sync the local unix account passwords to the samba >> smbpass db using pam. When i run passwd, after it's done it seg faults >> and produces a core dump. The odd thing is that it works, the users >> local unix password gets synced to the smbpass db, but it seg faults. >> Below are my relevant config files. Is this a bug or am I doing >> something wrong? > > The relevant information would be the version of the samba you are > using and analysis of the coredump. > Make sure your samba is compiled with debug information. > > Timur. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 17:55:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05D5106566C for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:55:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585CD8FC15 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:55:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o6JHtFKY028398; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:55:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:55:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <201007191755.o6JHtFKY028398@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has anybody got a *working* example of getpwnam_r() ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:55:51 -0000 > Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:13:25 -0400 > From: Brad Mettee > Subject: Re: Has anybody got a *working* example of getpwnam_r() ?? > > Robert Bonomi wrote: > > I've _got_ to be doing something wrong, sine I'm getting heap corruption > > calling it. But for the life of me, I can't figure out -what- is wrong. [[.. sniparoo ..]] > > > > > > the offending call is : > > > > getpwnam_r(cp3, &pw_data, buffer2, sizeof(buffer2), &pwd); > > > > data declaration at the beginning of the function: > > char buffer[1024]; > > char buffer2[1024]; > > char mailbox[1024]; > > *cp,*cp2,*cp3,*cp4 = buffer; > > struct passwd pw_data,pw_data2,*pwd=&pw_data2; > > int i; > > [[.. sneck gory details ..]] > > > > anybody got _any_ ideas? > > > This might help. > > Just above the crashing call, open a file, and dump the contents of the > vars you're sending to the function with fprintf, then close the file. I've verified everything with GDB immediately before the getwpnam_r() call. everyting is what I expect -- cp3 points to 'buffer' (*not* 'buffer2', the scratchpad buffer for the function) which has a valid username in it. (gdb instruction 'p *cp3' returns "bonomi") And I checked things immediately _after_ the getpwnam_r() call. heap (not stack) corruption, out of the blue, at a CONSTANT location, regardless of changes to the input variables (value _or_ location). > I > suspect cp3 doesn't point to valid data and is causing the function call > to fail (it looks like it's pointing to the same thing as buffer, which > doesn't look like how the function should be called). Having the > contents of the individual vars will help you narrow down exactly what's > occuring. Data you want to see is the pointers themselves, and maybe the > first 8 or so characters of data that it's pointing to. BTDT, GTTS. no joy. The call returns, signalling "no error" (return value zero), pw_data is filled in with the correct user information, and pwd is set to the address of (the passed-in parameter) pw_data. Everything is as it should be on a successful call -- *EXCEPT* for the unexpected corruption of the heap. I"m in the position of His Majesty in 'The King and I'. I quote: "Tis a *PUZZLEMENT*!!" (emphasis added. ) > And if this doesn't help, there's always Google CodeSearch > http://www.google.com/codesearch , for examples of how to call it. I apparently don't know how to use codesearch. All I get is various source-code for the function itself, not a 'how to use' illustration. Appreciate the thoughts. I'll re-iterate my query -- does anybody have a _working_ example _ON_FREEBSD_ of getpwnam_r() ?? I'm about at my wit's end -- short of re-compiling libc with a '-g', so I can trace through the library calls, and see what's happening 'underneath the covers', I can't thing of anything else to try. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 18:15:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A37C1065674 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:15:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from caleb.stein@me.com) Received: from asmtpout025.mac.com (asmtpout025.mac.com [17.148.16.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63038FC1A for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:15:11 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from win7x64.mshome.net ([76.121.184.98]) by asmtp025.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0L5T007WXH4IUB60@asmtp025.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:15:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1007190092 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-07-19_06:2010-07-19, 2010-07-19, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:15:09 -0700 From: Caleb Stein Message-id: User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.60 (Win32) Subject: KDE won't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:15:12 -0000 Whenever I try to start KDE4, I get this output: # /usr/local/kde4/etc/rc.d/kdm4 start Startink kdm4. Updating KDM configuration Information: reading pre-existing kdmrc /usr/local/kde4/share/config/kdm/kdmrc (config version 2.4) # info: [drm] Setting GART location based on new memory map info: [drm] Loading RV710 Microcode info: [drm] Resetting GPU info: [drm] writeback test succeeded in 2 usecs drm0: [ITHREAD] Jul 19 03:59:47 FreeBSD kdm-bin: :0[28893]: Received unknown or unexpected command -2 from greeter Jul 19 03:59:47 FreeBSD kdm-bin: :0[28893]: Abnormal termination of greeter for display :0, code 125, signal 0 info: [drm] Resetting GPU The same thing happens when I try to run Gnome or Xfce. It all started when I accidentally deleted graphics/jpeg and graphics/png. I tried reinstalling them, but it didn't work. I have done portupgrade -a three times, but none of them helped. How can I fix this issue without having to reinstall? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 18:21:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD8B106564A for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:21:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmettee@pchotshots.com) Received: from mail.pchotshots.com (ns1.pchotshots.com [12.172.123.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E0BC78FC08 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 56212 invoked by uid 89); 19 Jul 2010 18:21:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?12.172.123.228?) (bmettee@pchotshots.com@12.172.123.228) by mail.pchotshots.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2010 18:21:03 -0000 Message-ID: <4C44978F.5000102@pchotshots.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:21:03 -0400 From: Brad Mettee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <201007191712.o6JHCkqX028162@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201007191712.o6JHCkqX028162@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Has anybody got a *working* example of getpwnam_r() ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:21:04 -0000 Robert Bonomi wrote: >> And if this doesn't help, there's always Google CodeSearch >> http://www.google.com/codesearch , for examples of how to call it. >> >> > ALL I find at www.google.com/codesearch, when I ask for 'getpwnam_r' is source- > code for the getpwnam_r function. Needless to say, that's =no= help. except > for confirming that the parameters match what I'm doing. *sigh* > > Thanks for the thoughts, though. > Here are a few links to FreeBSD code using the function: Search criteria for codesearch was: 'lang:"c" freebsd getpwnam_r' (it did take me a few minutes to sift through the samples vs the declarations). http://www.google.com/codesearch/p?hl=en#hv2-lQo77SI/nss_ldap-249/tests/testpw.c&q=lang:%22c%22%20getpwnam_r%20freebsd&sa=N&cd=7&ct=rc http://www.google.com/codesearch/p?hl=en#-wKRNbYkeKI/pub/FreeBSD/distfiles/cadaver-0.22.5.tar.gz|DXHv6JvXDfo/cadaver-0.22.5/lib/glob.c&q=lang:%22c%22%20getpwnam_r http://www.google.com/codesearch/p?hl=en#bQvTeDN3Ef0/dspam-3.6.5/src/pgsql_drv.c&q=lang:%22c%22%20getpwnam_r%20freebsd&sa=N&cd=14&ct=rc Hope the links aren't too badly mangled by mail. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 18:21:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F86106567A for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153758FC22 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:21:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so6161637vws.13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:21:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ipuIJo3Lqk4yYpDAaYgpRmZWGQvkRiRe7N05wzLi03s=; b=xo4qFONiNF95uySlEnp4M2zbHtpAY6hue193RCQSzlL8ad4lWiTS/szoeSqTRziYvt m+jgxd0hgaIYDC5QhL2zavuLbtsMVV+7LZt+KXIHVlsz+UhMakKGPnU2P5Wmqz/1r8Yv NLsY/D3zH6bAXjVk7zOgMMbCHMp1EIIMhxaVQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KjxFeyGbGgTp73ak8StV0HouibYLkUFEVx6ccA5+PHeAO9N+PwUnD2jz1CIO7/o0bt Rlmrx5x1emv51pl83Thl3mt5g9dllvpZ9IzYLmigOEFo+3eoj4CaF+OsaTfG5B+1paBM 02KE2YJFkhyOExNhjS4/itaLB+Logz7zjfHZk= Received: by 10.220.59.202 with SMTP id m10mr2835089vch.23.1279563715504; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (173-161-130-225-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.161.130.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v11sm13768776vbb.3.2010.07.19.11.21.51 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C4497BE.30700@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:21:50 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Caleb Stein References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: KDE won't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:21:57 -0000 On 7/19/10 2:15 PM, Caleb Stein wrote: > Whenever I try to start KDE4, I get this output: > > > # /usr/local/kde4/etc/rc.d/kdm4 start > Startink kdm4. > Updating KDM configuration > Information: reading pre-existing kdmrc > /usr/local/kde4/share/config/kdm/kdmrc (config version 2.4) > # info: [drm] Setting GART location based on new memory map > info: [drm] Loading RV710 Microcode > info: [drm] Resetting GPU > info: [drm] writeback test succeeded in 2 usecs > drm0: [ITHREAD] > Jul 19 03:59:47 FreeBSD kdm-bin: :0[28893]: Received unknown or > unexpected command -2 from greeter > Jul 19 03:59:47 FreeBSD kdm-bin: :0[28893]: Abnormal termination of > greeter for display :0, code 125, signal 0 > info: [drm] Resetting GPU > > > The same thing happens when I try to run Gnome or Xfce. It all started > when I accidentally deleted graphics/jpeg and graphics/png. I tried > reinstalling them, but it didn't work. I have done portupgrade -a three > times, but none of them helped. How can I fix this issue without having > to reinstall? Hello, If you reinstalled a newer version of jpeg and png, you will need to rebuild all ports that linked against them. Take a look at ports/UPDATING for portupgrade syntax. Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 18:23:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C45B106567D for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:23:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF018FC20 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so6163360vws.13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:23:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jtDPRKAgF/1PNJVdEuYdU76cEqLOv/m5voY6hgMswwI=; b=Rmvz9ew/i9t2DYLIA5XqGyFtzViQv8zdk6I7UTzI9Y0bC4r6bQolYnmjWm9Rz3siGZ UrCQHkkz8N0JRTEceyxhIJp7lWCTbjwrEzfti3RfV7tVUsITkkOgozZYEvLibduyrncY uH9Zn15h9nd8lj9007+VLzzm8b4mlrZYxiBCc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HwaHes+yPc88UaQ2TunZYC5slCqZvnBSQxKf/PfVeIVbvd6MvOAI96bnigAa1vVAcr wa891Q99/KCy5gGDR2eE5zWLrMhSo0CIQVyp1i9TPYb9WJbDHQVVELywTc52VMJ4vNSk Qd9xQNE6tM9P+EJGIvulGIy/wYKN/h+l9sbok= Received: by 10.220.59.5 with SMTP id j5mr1420519vch.230.1279563799256; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (173-161-130-225-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.161.130.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e31sm13770091vbm.7.2010.07.19.11.23.15 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C449812.6080101@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:23:14 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Caleb Stein References: <4C4497BE.30700@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C4497BE.30700@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: KDE won't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:23:20 -0000 On 7/19/10 2:21 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > If you reinstalled a newer version of jpeg and png, you will need to > rebuild all ports that linked against them. Take a look at > ports/UPDATING for portupgrade syntax. > Sorry, should have included the entry number - 20100328. Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 18:28:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED54F1065674 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:28:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from caleb.stein@me.com) Received: from asmtpout024.mac.com (asmtpout024.mac.com [17.148.16.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39F58FC13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:28:35 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from win7x64.mshome.net ([76.121.184.98]) by asmtp024.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0L5T003DIHUEKS70@asmtp024.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:28:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1007190093 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-07-19_06:2010-07-19, 2010-07-19, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C4497BE.30700@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:28:11 -0700 From: Caleb Stein Message-id: In-reply-to: <4C4497BE.30700@gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.60 (Win32) Subject: Re: KDE won't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:28:36 -0000 Hmmm, I may just reinstall. I updated KDE, GNOME, XFCE, jpeg, and png to the latest versions, and the desktops just won't start. I think I will just reinstall. On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:21:50 -0700, Glen Barber wrote: > On 7/19/10 2:15 PM, Caleb Stein wrote: >> Whenever I try to start KDE4, I get this output: >> >> >> # /usr/local/kde4/etc/rc.d/kdm4 start >> Startink kdm4. >> Updating KDM configuration >> Information: reading pre-existing kdmrc >> /usr/local/kde4/share/config/kdm/kdmrc (config version 2.4) >> # info: [drm] Setting GART location based on new memory map >> info: [drm] Loading RV710 Microcode >> info: [drm] Resetting GPU >> info: [drm] writeback test succeeded in 2 usecs >> drm0: [ITHREAD] >> Jul 19 03:59:47 FreeBSD kdm-bin: :0[28893]: Received unknown or >> unexpected command -2 from greeter >> Jul 19 03:59:47 FreeBSD kdm-bin: :0[28893]: Abnormal termination of >> greeter for display :0, code 125, signal 0 >> info: [drm] Resetting GPU >> >> >> The same thing happens when I try to run Gnome or Xfce. It all started >> when I accidentally deleted graphics/jpeg and graphics/png. I tried >> reinstalling them, but it didn't work. I have done portupgrade -a three >> times, but none of them helped. How can I fix this issue without having >> to reinstall? > > Hello, > > If you reinstalled a newer version of jpeg and png, you will need to > rebuild all ports that linked against them. Take a look at > ports/UPDATING for portupgrade syntax. > > Regards, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 18:34:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165C61065677; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:34:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nox@jelal.kn-bremen.de) Received: from smtp.kn-bremen.de (gelbbaer.kn-bremen.de [78.46.108.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B898FC12; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:34:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kn-bremen.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id CE01A1E000CF; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:34:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from triton8.kn-bremen.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by triton8.kn-bremen.de (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6JIWOQV071841; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:32:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nox@triton8.kn-bremen.de) Received: (from nox@localhost) by triton8.kn-bremen.de (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o6JIWOQp071840; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:32:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nox) From: Juergen Lock Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:32:23 +0200 To: Yuri Message-ID: <20100719183223.GA71283@triton8.kn-bremen.de> References: <4C3D9526.3080107@rawbw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C3D9526.3080107@rawbw.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: nox@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why googleearth keeps crashing when photo window is closed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:34:46 -0000 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 03:44:54AM -0700, Yuri wrote: > > For some reason googleearth crashes when the popup with photo is closed. > Crashes are intermittent, depending on system updates and port updates. > After some crashes disappear and after other updates crashes come back > again. > Hi! I didn't answer at first since my ports weren't up to date and I couldn't reproduce the issue, now after updating to latest ports and RELENG_8_1 (amd64) googleearth still seems to work just fine for me, only gl doesn't work since a) our linux versions of the gl-related libs are too old for my card (radeon r730pro i.e. HD 4650) and b) I'm on amd64 and I've been told the dri interface may be different between i386 and amd64 so the linuxolator could have issues emulating gl anyway. (or only with the xorg drivers since the nvidia blob may already be handling this problem?) > Crash stack is below. > > Yuri > > > Major Version 5 > Minor Version 2 > Build Number 0001 > Build Date Jun 10 2010 > Build Time 16:15:55 > OS Type 3 > OS Major Version 2 > OS Minor Version 6 > OS Build Version 16 > OS Patch Version 0 > Crash Signal 11 > Crash Time 1279103869 > Up Time 31.366 > > Stacktrace from glibc: > ./libgoogleearth_free.so[0x33d3c30b] > [0xbfbfffbb] > ./libQtWebKit.so.4[0x34bf7f23] > ./libQtWebKit.so.4[0x34bf7f5f] > ./libQtWebKit.so.4[0x34bf7f79] > ./libQtWebKit.so.4[0x34bf7fd3] > ./libQtWebKit.so.4[0x34cb5da8] > ./libQtWebKit.so.4[0x34cb5d1c] > ./libQtWebKit.so.4[0x35057709] > ./libQtWebKit.so.4[0x350577ad] > ./libQtWebKit.so.4[0x3516a908] > ./libQtCore.so.4(_ZN7QObject5eventEP6QEvent+0x112)[0x33fdbfca] > ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN19QApplicationPrivate13notify_helperEP7QObjectP6QEvent+0xa0)[0x3423ae20] > ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN12QApplication6notifyEP7QObjectP6QEvent+0x22e)[0x34244962] > ./libQtCore.so.4(_ZN16QCoreApplication14notifyInternalEP7QObjectP6QEvent+0x70)[0x33fcdd50] > ./libQtCore.so.4[0x33ff3743] > ./libQtCore.so.4(_ZN20QEventDispatcherUNIX14activateTimersEv+0x17)[0x33ff381f] > ./libQtCore.so.4(_ZN20QEventDispatcherUNIX13processEventsE6QFlagsIN10QEventLoop17ProcessEventsFlagEE+0xd9)[0x33ff39ed] > ./libQtGui.so.4[0x342cfca4] > ./libQtCore.so.4(_ZN10QEventLoop13processEventsE6QFlagsINS_17ProcessEventsFlagEE+0x47)[0x33fccfbf] > ./libQtCore.so.4(_ZN10QEventLoop4execE6QFlagsINS_17ProcessEventsFlagEE+0xff)[0x33fcd223] > ./libQtCore.so.4(_ZN16QCoreApplication4execEv+0x9d)[0x33fcec05] > ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN12QApplication4execEv+0x25)[0x3423a7a1] > ./libgoogleearth_free.so(_ZN5earth6client11Application3runEv+0x4bc)[0x33d4750c] > ./libgoogleearth_free.so(earthmain+0x27d)[0x33d3b73d] > ./googleearth-bin(_init+0x122)[0x80486c2] > /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe5)[0x358596e5] > ./googleearth-bin(_init+0x91)[0x8048631] > I see you also posted this on the googlearth forum, lets hope they know more... Good luck! :) Juergen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 18:51:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6CCF1065670 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:51:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F918FC12 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8583 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2010 18:51:20 -0000 Received: from dsl081-163-112.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO ringbill.gull.us) ([64.81.163.112]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 19 Jul 2010 18:51:20 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=www.gull.us) by ringbill.gull.us with esmtp (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OavQr-0002CS-CR for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:51:17 -0700 Received: from d-69-91-158-67.dhcp4.washington.edu ([69.91.158.67]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user gull) by www.gull.us with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:51:17 -0700 Message-ID: <2e47f936a2985dda9c655b79c0f00091.squirrel@www.gull.us> In-Reply-To: References: <80AD3593-1170-4346-A4EE-4274085D6570@gull.us> <001501cb1db5$b3db2240$1b9166c0$@wakefield.sch.uk> <6341639666e4d0c65cd1b29a89e64beb.squirrel@www.gull.us> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:51:17 -0700 From: "David Brodbeck" To: "FreeBSD Questions" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Samba gives "invalid PT_PHDR" after upgrading from 7.2-RELEASE to 7.3-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:51:21 -0000 On Mon, July 19, 2010 1:37 am, Timur I. Bakeyev wrote: > On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:42 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: >> On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:12 AM, David Brodbeck wrote: >>> On Wed, July 7, 2010 2:20 am, mcoyles wrote: >>>> David - have a look here... >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2010-April/016405.html >>> >>> OK, I see.  It looks like rtld is part of world, not a port, so then >>> the >>> question becomes, why didn't freebsd-update update it for me?  Is there >>> a >>> way I can force a binary upgrade, or do I need to download the source >>> and >>> rebuild things that way? >> >> I ended up downloading the 7.3 livefs ISO, booting off of it, and >> replacing >> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 with the one from the CD.  That fixed the problem. >> >> I suspect the reason freebsd-update didn't upgrade it properly is it >> appears >> it's impossible to replace this file on a running system, even in >> single-user mode.  Maybe there should be something in the release notes >> about a 7.2 -> 7.3 upgrade being impossible to do properly except by >> booting >> from CD? > > make installworld happily does it, so can you - by renaming file to > the *.old and then putting new on in it's place. So, it could be that > freebsd-update isn't sophisticated enough to do such a trick. That doesn't work, unfortunately. Once you rename ld-elf.so.1 to ld-elf.so.1.old, trying to run any further commands -- even mv and cp -- fails with an error. (I didn't write down which one; something about failing to load the ELF interpreter, I think.) I know, I managed to cripple my system that way. I had to boot a LiveCD to recover, because it couldn't even load /bin/sh to get into single-user mode. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 19:05:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5151065670; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:05:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38BB68FC1F; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:05:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6JJ5fZ1081963; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:05:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4C44A204.8050507@rawbw.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:05:40 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100708 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Juergen Lock References: <4C3D9526.3080107@rawbw.com> <20100719183223.GA71283@triton8.kn-bremen.de> In-Reply-To: <20100719183223.GA71283@triton8.kn-bremen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nox@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why googleearth keeps crashing when photo window is closed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:05:42 -0000 On 07/19/2010 11:32, Juergen Lock wrote: > Hi! > > I didn't answer at first since my ports weren't up to date and I > couldn't reproduce the issue, now after updating to latest ports > and RELENG_8_1 (amd64) googleearth still seems to work just fine > for me, only gl doesn't work since a) our linux versions of the > gl-related libs are too old for my card (radeon r730pro i.e. HD > 4650) and b) I'm on amd64 and I've been told the dri interface may > be different between i386 and amd64 so the linuxolator could have > issues emulating gl anyway. (or only with the xorg drivers since > the nvidia blob may already be handling this problem?) > > > I see you also posted this on the googlearth forum, lets hope they know > more... > It's very strange, but the problem seems intermittent. It works after some updates and breaks with some other ones. At the moment with the current 8.1 and updated ports it works fine again. Thank you, Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 19:24:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527AC1065673 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11AC18FC1E for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:24:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-139-120.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.139.120]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8329D1E6A5; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:24:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o6JJOQpw001526; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:24:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:24:26 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Leonardo M. =?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=A9?=" Message-Id: <20100719212426.ad859703.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100719080900.GA2842@current.Sisis.de> References: <20100718193637.a861d7dc.freebsd@edvax.de> <594855.43631.qm@web113510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20100719080900.GA2842@current.Sisis.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spanish keyboard in X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:24:29 -0000 On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:09:00 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Sunday, July 18, 2010 a las 11:32:05AM -0700, Leonardo M. Ramé escribió: > > > Yes,I have modified xorg.conf the same way as you mentioned. > > > > Anyway, now the problem is solved by adding "setxkbmap es &" to my .xsession > > > > Thanks. > > > > Leonardo M. Ramé > > http://leonardorame.blogspot.com > > A bit related to the question: If you need Spanish Tilde chars but you > have only an English or German keyboard (like I have), you can make use > of the so called WindowsKey in X11 and define the keys like shown below. Just for completeness, there is another option I'd like to add: You define a key to be the "multi key", usually labelled "Compose", at least on the Sun keyboard I use; in ~/.xmodmaprc: add mod4 = Multi_key keycode 117 = Multi_key Then you can compose any characters you need that aren't even part of your localized keymap, e. g. "Compose char1 char2" (as a sequence, not a combination) will give you the combination of both characters, at least if there's a symbol matching in the character table. Examples: Compose a a -> Ã¥ (svedish a-circle) Compose s s -> ß (Eszett) Compose o / -> ø (danish o-stroke) Compose U " -> Ãœ (german U Umlaut, capital) Compose L / -> Å (polish L-stroke, capital) Compose k k -> ĸ (greek kappa, not sure if it really is) Compose n ' -> Å„ (n with accent grave) This can also be used to generate tilde characters, as well as the weirdest use of accents. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 19:32:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CB6106564A for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:32:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from smtprelay03.ispgateway.de (smtprelay03.ispgateway.de [80.67.29.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A328FC08 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:32:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [93.135.159.190] (helo=yeti.mininet) by smtprelay03.ispgateway.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Oaw4J-000717-EQ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:32:03 +0200 X-Mailer: emacs 23.1.1 (via feedmail 8 I); VM 8.0.14 under 23.1.1 (i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) From: "Markus Hoenicka" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19524.43056.507309.913955@yeti.mininet> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:32:00 +0200 To: ashish@FreeBSD.org (Ashish SHUKLA) In-Reply-To: <86eif0xi0f.fsf@chateau.d.if> References: <19523.21705.648520.937010@yeti.mininet> <86eif0xi0f.fsf@chateau.d.if> X-Df-Sender: 472582 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Emacs splash screen went to textmode only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:32:05 -0000 Ashish SHUKLA writes: > Can you upload the screenshot of what you're getting ? > Hi, I've uploaded a screenshot right here: http://www.abload.de/img/emacs-splashaws1.png The image shows four incarnations of Emacs. These are, clockwise starting from upper left: 1) Emacs started remotely on my laptop through ssh. This Emacs is slightly older (23.1.1) than the one on my desktop (23.2.1). This is what an unfiddled-with splash screen is supposed to look like in recent versions. 2) Emacs started on my desktop, using -q -no-site-file as per your suggestion. There are no graphics and no colors. 3) Another instance of Emacs started on my desktop, also with -q -no-site-file. I switched to *scratch* and evaluated (fancy-startup-screen). The fancy startup screen pops up without a hitch. 4) Another instance of Emacs on my desktop, this time running in a terminal. The startup screen is yet another one. Any clues? regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 19:47:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C137106566C for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E803D8FC15 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:47:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id o6JJltpA028613 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:47:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6JJlsxH059230 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:47:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o6JJls04059229; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:47:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:47:54 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: David Brodbeck Message-ID: <20100719194754.GL5485@dan.emsphone.com> References: <80AD3593-1170-4346-A4EE-4274085D6570@gull.us> <001501cb1db5$b3db2240$1b9166c0$@wakefield.sch.uk> <6341639666e4d0c65cd1b29a89e64beb.squirrel@www.gull.us> <2e47f936a2985dda9c655b79c0f00091.squirrel@www.gull.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <2e47f936a2985dda9c655b79c0f00091.squirrel@www.gull.us> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:47:55 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Samba gives "invalid PT_PHDR" after upgrading from 7.2-RELEASE to 7.3-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:47:58 -0000 In the last episode (Jul 19), David Brodbeck said: > On Mon, July 19, 2010 1:37 am, Timur I. Bakeyev wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:42 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: > >> On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:12 AM, David Brodbeck wrote: > >>> On Wed, July 7, 2010 2:20 am, mcoyles wrote: > >>>> David - have a look here... > >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2010-April/016405.html > >>> > >>> OK, I see.  It looks like rtld is part of world, not a port, so then > >>> the question becomes, why didn't freebsd-update update it for me?  Is > >>> there a way I can force a binary upgrade, or do I need to download the > >>> source and rebuild things that way? > >> > >> I ended up downloading the 7.3 livefs ISO, booting off of it, and > >> replacing /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 with the one from the CD.  That fixed > >> the problem. > >> > >> I suspect the reason freebsd-update didn't upgrade it properly is it > >> appears it's impossible to replace this file on a running system, even > >> in single-user mode.  Maybe there should be something in the release > >> notes about a 7.2 -> 7.3 upgrade being impossible to do properly except > >> by booting from CD? > > > > make installworld happily does it, so can you - by renaming file to the > > *.old and then putting new on in it's place. So, it could be that > > freebsd-update isn't sophisticated enough to do such a trick. > > That doesn't work, unfortunately. Once you rename ld-elf.so.1 to > ld-elf.so.1.old, trying to run any further commands -- even mv and cp -- > fails with an error. (I didn't write down which one; something about > failing to load the ELF interpreter, I think.) I know, I managed to > cripple my system that way. I had to boot a LiveCD to recover, because it > couldn't even load /bin/sh to get into single-user mode. A better method would be to copy (not move) the file to a backup location, then either use mv or install to install the new version. Also, the programs in /rescue/ are statically linked so they can be used to recover if you end up losing ld-elf.so.1 or other critical shared libs. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 20:07:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68EF1065670 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlmichael70@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340A78FC1A for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:07:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so2902904bwz.13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:07:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MNyrO63UFxBp3w5+0IM0k/zrIhtSIWUITPk3uGN+6f0=; b=EKpakAQa9/4MaouP14/N5lQ2KhYyjV4y5Bf43uiWhxu5HH8Uhsp4DhOm2cG/rojNKb TVdK3GXsj2Lw5Z32y/gDrLxDW/GbbM08lKKgjNwncIQ7MQ/GHWfjC1cadNbEYEwKB3x4 Tal94+uPHml9XqEuckP4FVkgv6d9ZRNKMdGiA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SmdAbEgEgzdb2ClC8rQqmi2ytJF1GRCo0bjiD0k5waIZcl+mXAKUpGlKLvAjiP3rSw psdwuS5fPyHE/5kHzHDksLlRsGzMgOcOolITo84ksSVMjPRbhiyoVeHLWp65OleuTaFM 1spRe+GPux8wpJVWe4esGelrGXFQCMtxugdtU= Received: by 10.204.2.139 with SMTP id 11mr4301582bkj.202.1279570058908; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prime.local (94-193-57-116.zone7.bethere.co.uk [94.193.57.116]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y2sm27205679bkx.20.2010.07.19.13.07.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C44B08C.2050203@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:07:40 +0100 From: Michael User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100628 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aiza References: <4C378D58.5010404@gmail.com> <4C44154D.1060109@comclark.com> In-Reply-To: <4C44154D.1060109@comclark.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw nat and jails on loopback - is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:07:40 -0000 On 19/07/2010 10:05, Aiza wrote: > > > you have to put your hosts /etc/resolve.conf in each jail before you can > get network connection. > I did. It contains: nameserver 208.67.222.222 nameserver 208.67.220.220 I believe that it's not a problem with jail configuration because NAT works fine on the same jail when I switch to pf. Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 20:43:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E8E1065672 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:43:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rl001@pacbell.net) Received: from web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D6E48FC1B for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:43:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29329 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jul 2010 20:16:46 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pacbell.net; s=s1024; t=1279570606; bh=VOGarZPkS8AfazhJNXpQ9DVQXE/Mr7HfC8sgS9hgPUc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=n2qq5RfFje/9fYNVO81cS9RSuGjShbtie0L2kMtWdF0gCqQjgyUoKyssCd9tvcNjuDUWvqAYFWes8ltgnIDhVs+7Jp9aRItx3k1UQEFF410vXg4xeDk3VkDTdi/zqnvr3oT7LB8I3a1uEEmlmeBKVQ2EjXz32fjuQeAUrs21+so= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mKS0vPOno0FUYdi+EnKJjE5F2XOttwFObfZELV8eTXjSsq0AuRQGsWZzVMemrVYuu31yL6r/NlTC74SQKmqCh8LW/7hvYCpNgazckspSiAdbOnSF3AAe9L1Ybi5UTRxVEJp/pVnXe5eQIP61l6S5Zk4A4CHRZtkNGg6EfDhsqek=; Message-ID: <680862.29144.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Z_w4n98VM1mCSYzUSM0SIBD7MK2kQll3lq3CoBmAtaCD4_v 0lizpg9dVPiaVULSOQ0ADGpyV7qLx0K43O1ZEjrHAnHbYp9CK3GIgpsrcxBV a4aJczXxJylfI3jqs1M4bv50OtJr7GWI72sgkIIhSFFE8LQloThR5ppkkiQH ygO6NB80.ahkZOCACq3a.KbuVUKzKYj.qKNBgZutpjlfArtE7zN8r6mzvKTy 5Tz98BnMuyvv7dX1K134QcJASZuuAOwyd0doJHRySROpl0n.4DAKLHqwPlwU - Received: from [71.139.193.145] by web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:16:46 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/420.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:16:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:43:28 -0000 I'm trying to boot on the 9.0 Current or 8.0 Release CD to install and it just hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " I've waited almost an hour. how long is it supposed to take? It would be nice if there were a status bar or spinning wheel or something to let you know if it's doing anything or hung. What can I do to get this to install. AMD Phenom 9500 Quad-Core 2.20 GHz 2G RAM Drive: Seagate ST31000333AS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 20:54:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13224106566C for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96048FC13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:54:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10666 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2010 20:54:22 -0000 Received: from dsl081-163-112.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO ringbill.gull.us) ([64.81.163.112]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 19 Jul 2010 20:54:22 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=www.gull.us) by ringbill.gull.us with esmtp (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OaxLx-0002PN-Di for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:54:21 -0700 Received: from d-69-91-158-67.dhcp4.washington.edu ([69.91.158.67]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user gull) by www.gull.us with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:54:21 -0700 Message-ID: <99458820158da6e9d05f9bcb05c7fb3f.squirrel@www.gull.us> In-Reply-To: <20100719194754.GL5485@dan.emsphone.com> References: <80AD3593-1170-4346-A4EE-4274085D6570@gull.us> <001501cb1db5$b3db2240$1b9166c0$@wakefield.sch.uk> <6341639666e4d0c65cd1b29a89e64beb.squirrel@www.gull.us> <2e47f936a2985dda9c655b79c0f00091.squirrel@www.gull.us> <20100719194754.GL5485@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:54:21 -0700 From: "David Brodbeck" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Samba gives "invalid PT_PHDR" after upgrading from 7.2-RELEASE to 7.3-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:54:23 -0000 On Mon, July 19, 2010 12:47 pm, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Jul 19), David Brodbeck said: >> That doesn't work, unfortunately. Once you rename ld-elf.so.1 to >> ld-elf.so.1.old, trying to run any further commands -- even mv and cp -- >> fails with an error. (I didn't write down which one; something about >> failing to load the ELF interpreter, I think.) I know, I managed to >> cripple my system that way. I had to boot a LiveCD to recover, because >> it >> couldn't even load /bin/sh to get into single-user mode. > > A better method would be to copy (not move) the file to a backup location, > then either use mv or install to install the new version. Also, the > programs in /rescue/ are statically linked so they can be used to recover > if > you end up losing ld-elf.so.1 or other critical shared libs. That was actually what I tried first, but I got a file in use error when I tried to overwrite it with the new version. Good to know about /rescue. I'll remember that next time something like this happens. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 22:05:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4A6106564A for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:05:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [204.109.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5268FC13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (client-86-31-3-93.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.31.3.93]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 96DCE5D42; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:05:10 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:05:32 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Rich Message-ID: <20100719230532.00006ace@unknown> In-Reply-To: <680862.29144.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <680862.29144.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:05:21 -0000 On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Rich wrote: > "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " > > I've waited almost an hour. how long is it supposed to take? It would > be nice if there were a status bar or spinning wheel or something to > let you know if it's doing anything or hung. What can I do to get > this to install. It should take less than a second to complete. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 22:27:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459441065690 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:27:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C598FC1C for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:27:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13so733960wwb.31 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:27:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=su8UY5ZlafSrZWxcjgKv8RX1sSsizM1O7DbWeZwwKRc=; b=KafXGG608n9jLdgynYzqo2zLvI9OhIaMvvIDH/UGeNXFWfi/IRBUqrkmj+NHE9DtI2 EE7LZ3tcHCLQN50XHqb3+KfxME6HEZcEerfze3w0HzpQP1rrhmzDLj04ihklYAu1rCXC oyGugYAq4nzQBZkvfEXGRJyQE1YPCOiKw8hL8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=V3sZCtl6bGcWJ/8RdxWAhpK4sa8e3dRq5BT1a4NBriRsKMzkMAXyXEH90fsyfepMrf SG8lUfL9OkK15OQFRXls/lHFvWoZC9AnPNhZGziJlzp66B8c8bmKcRMER+7YwSX4Epyr hNR1MORH+X2pQcBJwHIg/s815TEmTnmbyXw+Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.210.206 with SMTP id u56mr4573320weo.50.1279578472462; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.172.4 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:27:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86r5izft8b.fsf@gmail.com> References: <86r5izft8b.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:27:52 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jim To: Anonymous Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sockets stuck in use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:27:56 -0000 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Anonymous wrote: > Jim writes: > >> I was working on an application I've been developing, and I closed the >> last instance a bit over 12 hours ago, but some of the sockets are >> still stuck in use: >> [sjss@elrond ~/dev/pipe/scripts]$ netstat | grep -e 'tcp' | grep 9612 >> tcp4 =A0 =A0 =A0 0 =A0 =A0 =A00 192.168.1.80.42464 =A0 =A0 192.168.1.2.9= 612 =A0 =A0 =A0 SYN_SENT >> tcp4 =A0 =A0 =A0 0 =A0 =A0 =A00 192.168.1.80.35742 =A0 =A0 192.168.1.2.9= 612 =A0 =A0 =A0 CLOSED >> tcp4 =A0 =A0 =A0 0 =A0 =A0 =A00 192.168.1.80.46116 =A0 =A0 192.168.1.2.9= 612 =A0 =A0 =A0 CLOSED >> tcp4 =A0 =A0 =A0 0 =A0 =A0 =A00 192.168.1.80.36792 =A0 =A0 192.168.1.2.9= 612 =A0 =A0 =A0 CLOSED >> >> >> Is there any way to get rid of them without restarting the machine? I >> was playing with sockopt SO_KEEPALIVE and SO_LINGER when I caused this >> issue.. > > Does tcpdrop(8) help? > No, the result (The first command is what I figured would be correct, given the man page, the second was just to be paranoid - although this machine is both the host and destination, having glommed onto several ports. The .80 IPs are within the web server's jail. I cannot tcpdrop within the jail [sjss@elrond ~/dev/pipe/scripts]$ netstat | grep -e 'tcp' | grep 9612 tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.80.42464 192.168.1.2.9612 SYN_SENT tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.80.35742 192.168.1.2.9612 CLOSED tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.80.46116 192.168.1.2.9612 CLOSED tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.80.36792 192.168.1.2.9612 CLOSED [sjss@elrond ~/dev/pipe/scripts]$ sudo tcpdrop 192.168.1.80 46116 192.168.1.2 9612 tcpdrop: 192.168.1.80 46116 192.168.1.2 9612: No such process [sjss@elrond ~/dev/pipe/scripts]$ sudo tcpdrop 192.168.1.2 9612 192.168.1.80 46116 tcpdrop: 192.168.1.2 9612 192.168.1.80 46116: No such process [sjss@elrond ~/dev/pipe/scripts]$ netstat | grep -e 'tcp' | grep 9612 tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.80.42464 192.168.1.2.9612 SYN_SENT tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.80.35742 192.168.1.2.9612 CLOSED tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.80.46116 192.168.1.2.9612 CLOSED tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.80.36792 192.168.1.2.9612 CLOSED [sjss@elrond ~/dev/pipe/scripts]$ cd /data/jail/ [sjss@elrond /data/jail]$ sudo ./bilbo_web_shell [root@bilbo_web /data/jail]# tcpdrop 192.168.1.80 46116 192.168.1.2 9612 tcpdrop: 192.168.1.80 46116 192.168.1.2 9612: Operation not permitted Thanks, -Jim Stapleton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 22:38:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AC01065675 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:38:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rl001@pacbell.net) Received: from web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B8498FC15 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:38:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 54825 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jul 2010 22:38:21 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pacbell.net; s=s1024; t=1279579101; bh=Q/fzZW212rfs2lVrs97e8AH9AkBVNyjOcahu+KIqLis=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NSwxdWtizcZEEyCfYvD1AB07POYJQE/2ymsBOCoDf870wIse3iM9Jvpd/pUjinPjI7BulOlduRmV8yM0Wnsgk8drsStbHqPy8zb5ciFVGIvihNFTEVifdZ0XkO0NbZkmOTVVthEbuh5chpnVHL06s5wm1ELIIJgoffOWVsAHRnA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=03Xql+KUxcqTNTGbiQyVYQkqTbzFvKcyFME0Y0dBpw6kqIf7dx8L/1+2kFMrzv0qo06kxck8Ivk6z0Ey4q1yr6xcWcdwsQOu73f/ZGaW3uiauWvvm5xuYG9nPdu5b8rGM9DBA8SPQmMC0+zNlE6T4jzFrAjHSBqpdQ2crTKWokE=; Message-ID: <285052.53021.qm@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 5XM1o38VM1l3yab_WOWWUTECy0A9QEXq3cegj3CcqR4MzBh X7oNQtnGCLJTBfNqAYViOhWqoahhWd38Qb9upIFBtSkoJ5D_Uy3g.ze0q1a8 rP8CxOc5qSRVyKQWC67Ikg5xdyM4nKWnfD20Mit85FNdSh_wjv7WpSt_OJpa LuMKurMRa9eVFR60kfWmEu7XO8wtJCQSIXiN_e5QoU.iRXpk_UXuPKMJKT1E vAdFKeKTcteg7D5Ue_QBLpIn3PWUdSTQyag3jOkBLSKUaTxzX70YRzSP_waM El2YhrMInfO8uwzGWY_JIJMthHa9P5RStXIqRMJXpVtCGMlsQQb3XOPS60ue vD0OwoALvTg-- Received: from [71.139.193.145] by web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:38:20 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/420.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 References: <680862.29144.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100719230532.00006ace@unknown> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:38:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich To: Bruce Cran In-Reply-To: <20100719230532.00006ace@unknown> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:38:22 -0000 Ok well at least that's good to know. So I disconnected my hard drives and now it boots up further on the CD only but obviously I can't install it with no hard drives. Why does it hang on my drives and what can I do about it? They are just regular Seagate SATA drives. I have windows 7 installed on the first partition and trying to dual-boot FreeBSD on a second partition (well actually the third since win 7 needs two). AMD Phenom 9500 Quad-Core 2.20 GHz 2G RAM Drives: Seagate ST31000333AS ________________________________ From: Bruce Cran To: Rich Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 3:05:32 PM Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Rich wrote: > "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " > > I've waited almost an hour. how long is it supposed to take? It would > be nice if there were a status bar or spinning wheel or something to > let you know if it's doing anything or hung. What can I do to get > this to install. It should take less than a second to complete. -- Bruce Cran _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 23:00:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81321065673 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:00:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9737C8FC0C for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-139-120.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.139.120]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DED1E3AB; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:59:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o6JMxxIj002271; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:59:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:59:58 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Rich Message-Id: <20100720005958.d82c5a97.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <285052.53021.qm@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <680862.29144.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100719230532.00006ace@unknown> <285052.53021.qm@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:00:01 -0000 On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:38:20 -0700 (PDT), Rich wrote: > Ok well at least that's good to know. So I disconnected my hard drives and now > it boots up further on the CD only but obviously I can't install it with no hard > drives. Why does it hang on my drives and what can I do about it? They are just > regular Seagate SATA drives. I would suggest to boot with the live system CD, e. g. of 8.0-RELEASE. It should not launch sysinstall automatically (you can even boot the CD into SUM), so you end up with a regular shell. First, check all the kernel's output for things that look... strange... and maybe you even decide to install the system without sysinstall (if THAT is what's causing all the trouble). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 23:12:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5BBE106566B for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.167.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89DDD8FC08 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:12:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 85372 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jul 2010 23:12:22 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1279581142; bh=I0fxe5rO12US8o02FVva3AB7N7l+rREsUkk9YsFjf98=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=D5mOw2GX6Kb/O1PDFfYvOQ0q9a9kiae5OG2PwvrK5yA2BSKw6KlZZ4svG+4yobHYiIiqNnQqcfe/bdtR6Gsb4QPLCVFsa0kCJnrwFidRFMVQRir8FXRaDgbNCnJEFwRSApmliTQpY/7rhUWi8Bir/KZExKqbRj/Z6jeV+IFLk/s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Uk2HDRZfgFMzBA4VOOD49f88d0y1FMASo1bSLEG1zCnMb9/ksNlIaw5pBmavXskj+vJZNkMENHJ+R7GIe1/ZzcHR8yGqxfxdntC8irYDT/Zuc+07RdNsFe2xzsFTbijenhBqhrMWz4gniENQpupFFgT9qi4LsGgYoO78QEHWYHU=; Message-ID: <30910.84956.qm@web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: xnc9ViIVM1lcODAhcr5ZnsmTtO8GK4mfCEGlAZQo_QtwUS3 kYIKFCUSn0o66nTkmN2HzXxxQBjFB7TpcAgvfR2rWBPgh7Tny6hwV01WxHBs RowIvfxgaztLTE.W69ChIkfbJvlPmbQi4swHfdVkK.6Dvi9rP70yhSI2n8pa DjGcbDo071BCn.FfZSol6gZ2LiTae8UW9kO3.21Rr6bSxx.KABD.fF0XVQ9q 2xIZjcNzS1QaD9mYjV0g1RDEEPDUq_5qQpCUw6cwN3LAqPt6GEEvu2Qr.dfC ws3_PMTIf6zja0BBoVMl8ChicE21e67N5A9J838sdmzRAKxPtezcBr_jDO1K Kbd.IuO26.C0O3msHB6JsFA0DmPj1IV7o8Gv7fzfhQ8OMGS1DffZtyHLg Received: from [190.246.47.149] by web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:12:21 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.2.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:12:21 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: WLAN stops working when idle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:12:22 -0000 I have noted that my wlan stops responding when the O.S. does not use the n= etwork for a while (10 minutes aprox), and I have to do "ifconfig wlan0 dow= n && ifconfig wlan0 up && dhclient wlan0" to reconnect.=0A=0AThe network ca= rd is the internal Wi-Fi from my Dell Inspiron 1525, and uses ndis to wrap = the WinXp driver.=0A=0A/etc/rc.conf:=0A...=0Awlans_ndis0=3D"wlan0"=0Aifconf= ig_wlan0=3D"WPA SYNCDHCP"=0Awpa_supplicant_enable=3D"YES"=0A...=0A=0A/etc/w= pa_supplicant.conf=0A=0Actrl_interface=3D/var/run/wpa_supplicant=0Actrl_int= erface_group=3Dwheel=0Aap_scan=3D1=0Anetwork=3D{=0A=09ssid=3D"strada"=0A=09= key_mgmt=3DWPA-PSK=0A=09psk=3D"martin13"=0A}=0A=0Auname -a:=0A=0AFreeBSD in= spiron-1521 8.1-RC2 FreeBSD 8.1-RC2 #0: Tue Jun 29 20:42:40 UTC 2010 ro= ot@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386=0A=0A=0AAny h= int?=0A=0ALeonardo M. Ram=E9=0Ahttp://leonardorame.blogspot.com=0A=0A=0A = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 23:16:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A20D1065673 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:16:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [204.109.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A39B8FC22 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:16:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (client-86-31-3-93.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.31.3.93]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AA3735D42; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:16:27 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20100720001627.00005ebe@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20100720005958.d82c5a97.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <680862.29144.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100719230532.00006ace@unknown> <285052.53021.qm@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100720005958.d82c5a97.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Rich Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:16:17 -0000 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:59:58 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > I would suggest to boot with the live system CD, e. g. of 8.0-RELEASE. > It should not launch sysinstall automatically (you can even boot the > CD into SUM), so you end up with a regular shell. First, check all > the kernel's output for things that look... strange... and maybe you > even decide to install the system without sysinstall (if THAT is > what's causing all the trouble). Unfortunately the LiveFS CD does run sysinstall by default - you need to go to the Fixit menu to get the shell. I'd suggest trying to boot with debug output enabled and seeing if that produces any clues - I suspect not, but it's worth a go. To do that, press 6 when you see the boot menu to get command prompt and enter "boot -v". You should see any debug output on the 2nd console (press F2 when sysinstall hangs). -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 23:17:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666E61065675 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:17:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout027.mac.com (asmtpout027.mac.com [17.148.16.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF6B8FC1B for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:17:10 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp027.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L5T00LRGVCI6E70@asmtp027.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:17:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1007190130 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-07-19_07:2010-07-19, 2010-07-19, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <285052.53021.qm@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:17:06 -0700 Message-id: <76C2A9EE-BB8A-4D04-B10F-0B9B5F6AA1F3@mac.com> References: <680862.29144.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100719230532.00006ace@unknown> <285052.53021.qm@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: Rich X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:17:10 -0000 Hi-- On Jul 19, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Rich wrote: > Ok well at least that's good to know. So I disconnected my hard drives and now > it boots up further on the CD only but obviously I can't install it with no hard > drives. Why does it hang on my drives and what can I do about it? They are just > regular Seagate SATA drives. I have windows 7 installed on the first partition > and trying to dual-boot FreeBSD on a second partition (well actually the third > since win 7 needs two). > > AMD Phenom 9500 Quad-Core 2.20 GHz > 2G RAM There's not quite enough information here to identify your motherboard, but you should make sure there aren't any BIOS upgrades available for it, as those might help resolve this level of issue. Check your BIOS config for the disks carefully, and try adjusting the options you have. In particular, try choosing LBA mode rather than auto or CHS, and try to toggle through "ACPI (or SATA mode)" vs. "IDE (or PATA compatibility)" vs. "enhanced (often meaning some form of BIOS RAID is enabled)" and see whether any of them work. If that doesn't do the trick, you could wander through your BIOS menus, and disable all of the non-essential stuff like parallel & serial ports, second NIC, or anything else which is not needed, and see whether that does any good...but that's getting into stuff which is less likely to make a difference. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 23:32:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC048106566B; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:32:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sektie@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB118FC16; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so6573090vws.13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:32:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0PWcpYQAn6LwaYar13KRWVjXwg5dwITbegd+ZP3gqlc=; b=SzlQ95ZSImkq3yexyAzmz5SGk1y4v/mexJAECYNtkoGz4BUjI9pGlhoVbkWEMl1cUb tefx4aWYkGcnEEXB9YZ27Prs+H0gz5WBPpd9c9ElrwlyfVvbNv8fVdMO6M0zTVd0BnYR VE7Xye7eM0t5SXVTAeiQQ2jGtlWqC37UjiPAQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=IFrglWpBIUfgAjHWDXJFG1k/eck6cZZXP7HKtbI2DQnyqV7T8K7Oo+N5BnwMLdur0B tltAk23VzetfGU28+F/f4BxvxRY52AwpQd/ijIucTSeFMGjgFkyH4H192w9qRRpKqn/I MjsE/K9J1HiOz7ju99lz9uhumM9eOkxVesTcQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.128.196 with SMTP id l4mr3125257vcs.34.1279582367374; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Sender: sektie@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.202.131 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:32:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <680862.29144.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <680862.29144.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:32:47 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: XH5QtThk1XL44bvgks_2e4cRvBg Message-ID: From: Randi Harper To: Rich Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:32:49 -0000 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Rich wrote: > I'm trying to boot on the 9.0 Current or 8.0 Release CD to =A0install and= it just > hangs on; > > "Probing devices, =A0please wait (this can take a while)... " > > I've waited almost an hour. how long is it supposed to take? It would be = nice if > there were a status bar or spinning wheel or something to let you know if= it's > doing anything or hung. What can I do to get this to install. > > AMD Phenom 9500 Quad-Core 2.20 GHz > 2G RAM > > Drive: > Seagate ST31000333AS > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > This is probably just grasping at straws, but any chance your hard drive is failing? -- randi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 23:34:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E75810656EA for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:34:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51618FC12 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-139-120.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.139.120]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E693DD03; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:34:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o6JNYIJh002445; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:34:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:34:18 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Bruce Cran Message-Id: <20100720013418.0b4c4210.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100720001627.00005ebe@unknown> References: <680862.29144.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100719230532.00006ace@unknown> <285052.53021.qm@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100720005958.d82c5a97.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100720001627.00005ebe@unknown> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Rich Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:34:21 -0000 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:16:27 +0100, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:59:58 +0200 > Polytropon wrote: > > > I would suggest to boot with the live system CD, e. g. of 8.0-RELEASE. > > It should not launch sysinstall automatically (you can even boot the > > CD into SUM), so you end up with a regular shell. First, check all > > the kernel's output for things that look... strange... and maybe you > > even decide to install the system without sysinstall (if THAT is > > what's causing all the trouble). > > Unfortunately the LiveFS CD does run sysinstall by default - you need > to go to the Fixit menu to get the shell. Yes - that's what I intended to suggest. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 00:53:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA2D1065675 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:53:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rl001@pacbell.net) Received: from web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 627CD8FC16 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:53:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 42646 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jul 2010 00:53:30 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pacbell.net; s=s1024; t=1279587210; bh=XMV6//fjKEoT8uBuLEKNbIq/kyEuskESVSz90Dv6dgI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QYFNa1meqZn4Rqnb/DiktAzoPTK3WrpySbjHrKy7rsEXcHI7Jc+OebpCKGpgueQ3Vl6EOajmbP5IYjbdDBi0MN9+KRD6Gkw1Lr4G9OF2S/BOJRE+UMrMFPSHESLOi5h2i4TMw0O1y/JcW7wA5oPjKkFQNcKwYDTtsy92TQI+Vtk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=z62u25waCniyXPh0mj8GUehNu+hIPb3/DxFTGjEOW9vwlQal7UIPesqsHi/AbsTdJroMz6Y+hXYITkPcwXizvhVQY8UsrLC8dF1XF2LAt1midTkPpfpMxgKV7mUg1995Zyje18lR3bpeYeVtnX0h8npltyFwMRAVOz7OKreDTgk=; Message-ID: <768426.41966.qm@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: xjtZTbwVM1nVMeqi835uXZweFda6.ZX4oq8T28gJV3r6xla WrVKyLDhKIXdXF1KPgMZt6TYD8n7OSiQzX0D2n4MaQleB.2fgkXplFxHejDS ntqh3obYA5qiCrtno.uKRGQ3sVgL_79WbHAjFeFlsUq529_FnIlR4Ji_ZZfn xJvP_8N6LG1awknUQkUeTPgNtLF8s56_gTT4miuoDJrnR5K8.OFZPCa8Y4OM eeWMNyn72_qhEcGPmYmsnhaaFUufg7EAzPw4XlDE5gI9.z6N3A0lPymFtIkg MCIvit1XjGCs80M3Bkp6kx2XX5H4vIsc4HtMQr6pmToY- Received: from [71.139.193.145] by web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:53:30 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/420.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 References: <680862.29144.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100719230532.00006ace@unknown> <285052.53021.qm@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100720005958.d82c5a97.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100720001627.00005ebe@unknown> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:53:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich To: Bruce Cran , Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20100720001627.00005ebe@unknown> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:53:31 -0000 I tried this but pressing F2 doesn't do anything. ________________________________ From: Bruce Cran To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Rich Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 4:16:27 PM Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:59:58 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > I would suggest to boot with the live system CD, e. g. of 8.0-RELEASE. > It should not launch sysinstall automatically (you can even boot the > CD into SUM), so you end up with a regular shell. First, check all > the kernel's output for things that look... strange... and maybe you > even decide to install the system without sysinstall (if THAT is > what's causing all the trouble). Unfortunately the LiveFS CD does run sysinstall by default - you need to go to the Fixit menu to get the shell. I'd suggest trying to boot with debug output enabled and seeing if that produces any clues - I suspect not, but it's worth a go. To do that, press 6 when you see the boot menu to get command prompt and enter "boot -v". You should see any debug output on the 2nd console (press F2 when sysinstall hangs). -- Bruce Cran _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 00:55:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2A41065673 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:55:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rl001@pacbell.net) Received: from web81102.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81102.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D9C368FC1F for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:55:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 307 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jul 2010 00:55:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pacbell.net; s=s1024; t=1279587307; bh=+K3PhtLOnXIuOoBn9AWNwQC9CONNnlU8p2ZlSwHpBzA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=z9I1obE61tOJtDR/klxpFLaTSEmA4bNqxBJEA2VjBZKsNSfUDRUzx5lyGAwZ08YM6R1jxgtB17WqhwBLsfCimaCZOdquP416BiPI8CIvpO6QenG29L+i7bDs7F4mlbE9oe/8gw/EzxnDhV6Z+QHbTNdwoKGy00HNHpcQlFXqZeI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BMP0gtp1DhXDnEPZsw9TpR9tY8lPa+cr+F/b5G6Rm3hOzA7idnwulCgFvVM1nk5WVO0kQ+nT7Ql2YvkYsKpAS7nvUO6ym9AfpKxI6D8/IPnb5MHQ/jecXxaCoKRDztxKW5DbASsNCaSW1LzbB+UecgSpXAboIlasTTovABMhubM=; Message-ID: <23516.98335.qm@web81102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: uKaD308VM1kpbBUUfeopiwXx1NVxabIy8TUL1CbGEU2KDW1 H6VZKMmLdO1dFwtSntwSIasA.4EsmCmSDvTQDOZVj4U9xhU1qTuiy1rujQmE CTgYxFmG_q3eA3c8ahZYyw7ZUpQOw1EwEnwdcGC8Ax4ligVigtsWHfKMr.fm kr3L78Sk2zJm2Jtex5RMpwLRSxau8UfeUOVSt3QEn4EhBaN5V7Wj7FLjsLmE ru8STlA1Dyq3NpHSCFrI0MGKkjhs6D2n6RGipay7jPCsM0bwB0P.pdIy2ZaT .JiQdxBEV2mrel3xCu8vE8pYTrn8IGvow7MjVQEC2UCg- Received: from [71.139.193.145] by web81102.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:55:06 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/420.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 References: <680862.29144.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:55:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich To: Garrett Cooper , Randi Harper In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:55:08 -0000 Drive is perfectly fine. Windows runs perfect on first partition. BTW both drives are doing it, I doubt both drives would go bad at the same time. Windows and Linux workfine. Only FreeBSD has trouble. ________________________________ From: Garrett Cooper To: Randi Harper Cc: Rich ; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 5:53:21 PM Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Randi Harper wrote: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Rich wrote: >> I'm trying to boot on the 9.0 Current or 8.0 Release CD to install and it >just >> hangs on; >> >> "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " >> >> I've waited almost an hour. how long is it supposed to take? It would be nice >>if >> there were a status bar or spinning wheel or something to let you know if it's >> doing anything or hung. What can I do to get this to install. >> >> AMD Phenom 9500 Quad-Core 2.20 GHz >> 2G RAM >> >> Drive: >> Seagate ST31000333AS > > This is probably just grasping at straws, but any chance your hard > drive is failing? Time to try checking the SMART data on the drive? Cheers, -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 00:57:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01881065670 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:57:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rl001@pacbell.net) Received: from web81102.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81102.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B871F8FC29 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1510 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jul 2010 00:57:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pacbell.net; s=s1024; t=1279587437; bh=Rk2kzO8Z655rOPRUBWBoL7qL2z3a/MRAEMnAoy/Vz0k=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5nUtUkefU5VcKMqm0XHMnCBCjgJHzc8rHX2c1nTQlL7u8QP0SH4xx74c/7d3fkA9o4gj3oW37iOL14JaTL9PuTXCEapx4/JvdqgQLylh1sFLV2Q+HY3EA0Yuc7eVsbMCnfgYMMBsiVOrLCMqvnzf0ZB2/eN3vqJDseRHU9RnwEw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TinqVcsmeUWUS7QlePgrTEKpF1Dunnb6bcqSUo3vGIlSS9AeFXMxDPPTEZ92pxq3wPvdtYz7A1C6DZ31WaoAkQRtqIL6Kd9XZRl7/NDO3EUXJmGqeKBzsU6XYkKwsfTIwWjLpsY9Lt3dFCFTNiq9UNoYlpOjZaCdntAy1pdlodg=; Message-ID: <304914.94992.qm@web81102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: u2zV584VM1n6Fw2_ChVXdYvEZPNhN5DobxETgGCydlorflz LMmnWLsny1P3GnSKHqXX9.6lqLLEESYfB5Oh2d8qV5Simhwhm2cLJnjFrriO L_wQE0V87J6z5ASDnuGdq5xuqCNmhe5HA2GI_yVZpTnfYNcXVaMK4zN1OMOa 9YBUL4wiMOy2E8aLENewdH.zm0HS2Z3Ut8XdRv5PIcpSBeDrV5ExqiTi_Gd7 mYKt6L9S.bc84EA0p_Qg.z0UvBQY5vWztVuIUmz4jCmIqNpP2Z9QtF0sfPQw SMKB93u9OtIuDjOiUNMSwycafo_g3P57SixJp10.2VkY- Received: from [71.139.193.145] by web81102.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:57:17 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/420.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 References: <680862.29144.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100719230532.00006ace@unknown> <285052.53021.qm@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <76C2A9EE-BB8A-4D04-B10F-0B9B5F6AA1F3@mac.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:57:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich To: Chuck Swiger In-Reply-To: <76C2A9EE-BB8A-4D04-B10F-0B9B5F6AA1F3@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:57:18 -0000 Motherbd is Foxconn Digitalife A79A-S. BIOS settings don't make any difference. ________________________________ From: Chuck Swiger To: Rich Cc: FreeBSD - Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 4:17:06 PM Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " Hi-- On Jul 19, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Rich wrote: > Ok well at least that's good to know. So I disconnected my hard drives and now > it boots up further on the CD only but obviously I can't install it with no >hard > > drives. Why does it hang on my drives and what can I do about it? They are just > > regular Seagate SATA drives. I have windows 7 installed on the first partition > and trying to dual-boot FreeBSD on a second partition (well actually the third > since win 7 needs two). > > AMD Phenom 9500 Quad-Core 2.20 GHz > 2G RAM There's not quite enough information here to identify your motherboard, but you should make sure there aren't any BIOS upgrades available for it, as those might help resolve this level of issue. Check your BIOS config for the disks carefully, and try adjusting the options you have. In particular, try choosing LBA mode rather than auto or CHS, and try to toggle through "ACPI (or SATA mode)" vs. "IDE (or PATA compatibility)" vs. "enhanced (often meaning some form of BIOS RAID is enabled)" and see whether any of them work. If that doesn't do the trick, you could wander through your BIOS menus, and disable all of the non-essential stuff like parallel & serial ports, second NIC, or anything else which is not needed, and see whether that does any good...but that's getting into stuff which is less likely to make a difference. Regards, -- -Chuck _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 01:11:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA52B1065674 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:11:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rl001@pacbell.net) Received: from web81104.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81104.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7003A8FC13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:11:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 65064 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jul 2010 01:11:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pacbell.net; s=s1024; t=1279588314; bh=AhZ84pjxmQnynjP2n/PHmJgiYKwFFQyhl+++XfuR2eA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yGPwJBqSwrD/Mv0W/Em2vhr+t7RObBXljbwsjQxWYugbgweMn3tGTmqARIBIPQ3VLwMXEc5cq536HYYtB7f14DGcoidA6v81HdtyEJKAyDKD6AhUwpx+qSCpZNngwlpqVFZdj9ut5oWm7Lg/3jMlw+vJpXTmgjLeQDDhUD8+yC0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1qWtvpSGNR0cvvRSdMSnBxUaqHdC3IArDHjyhSKBGZtDRsUjxWSWEhp2FfmzxviphXy1T58Jd45zBMo2/tikK3FCALz6CY6Ebf1BPf9VzFyzrcpSggBQIGdXW2fg0DSwCkI2VRvCuHdtea2dOnZBAORUeVAr8W1NojVbk9aozfc=; Message-ID: <633204.64834.qm@web81104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: FPBdxLsVM1mHJo29qNTS8cYMGrEyDF82EyqraJv49wC2b2a KyDMLbgmdtR0S7cG94izTgSyotFlOnlp10a4uN9ni0wkkJRBwoXAHDsMe_MV 68PEQeFQhomeClJ6OM95penDrupPfpDq1a9k4yZJ_PBhApF8xK8YB6uabQco D59tTUi6OxBMUUKBY2qShigXJrSb_n3nzSPzrwBa0h4ayy9nkaave4VZIBgp OSwCiwIRMH.Y_e1MtgHpgtQar_1c8TdQ05haKfPWDv.wSBjrKHI6mnXSZoeu pqtIpuvoFsBJTh72sjE.h3aUQ.N49cioxGgQBsyKAJS0kkocAznEemrMOSzo cBxZ5jd50wA-- Received: from [71.139.193.145] by web81104.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:11:54 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/420.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 References: <680862.29144.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100719230532.00006ace@unknown> <285052.53021.qm@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100720005958.d82c5a97.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100720001627.00005ebe@unknown> <20100720013418.0b4c4210.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:11:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich To: Polytropon , Bruce Cran In-Reply-To: <20100720013418.0b4c4210.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:11:55 -0000 I couldn't find a live CD fro 8.0 Release. All I could find was at this site; http://livecd.sourceforge.net/download.php It's 4.6, is that useful? Anyway, it booted up to the login prompt without hanging. What does that tell us? Is there anything I can check with this disk or is there somewhere I can get the 8.0 live CD? ________________________________ From: Polytropon To: Bruce Cran Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Rich Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 4:34:18 PM Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:16:27 +0100, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:59:58 +0200 > Polytropon wrote: > > > I would suggest to boot with the live system CD, e. g. of 8.0-RELEASE. > > It should not launch sysinstall automatically (you can even boot the > > CD into SUM), so you end up with a regular shell. First, check all > > the kernel's output for things that look... strange... and maybe you > > even decide to install the system without sysinstall (if THAT is > > what's causing all the trouble). > > Unfortunately the LiveFS CD does run sysinstall by default - you need > to go to the Fixit menu to get the shell. Yes - that's what I intended to suggest. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 01:21:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E871065670 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:21:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanegomi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3CE8FC0C for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so6597673iwn.13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:21:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wMMmARDoqPeu0QBLkODX7OE+rH9PAvb/kltYfmrzJFw=; b=OjqbziZIIi2NXjspgJVLQv8GQFgyGxH2dTpaOwVdSMVGEsIwYqfprwCCffGo0eGiJr HS7wwlnnltIfS4qjJ12DzdTSl3/F1opzDB0F0Koh6fjQHAU6tE57nOSjQGsexKll4Ful FxumSWliREOONE5UCm72sJrh/X7FOrIgAcuCk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=twcwF5FIN3485EIDGw9zBH8pUxQM+Ggud9MhhYGDsQsakHbZK6umbjMVjS6HNDObz1 0yv7IrcdoKklvHvHczmKM2eOUfxrLd4EaG3fpUIwCxhpEguJKWoVQ+byK1N8eXQBUOgQ AR5jalGSlmW02c+SeMaRQ+kc+0Jb/habKcXQY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.149.3 with SMTP id r3mr6449692ibv.109.1279587201128; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Sender: yanegomi@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.169.18 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:53:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <680862.29144.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:53:21 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: u1IERO0vzhNuJYiE5G-Z9UQyvaQ Message-ID: From: Garrett Cooper To: Randi Harper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Rich , freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:21:24 -0000 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Randi Harper wrote: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Rich wrote: >> I'm trying to boot on the 9.0 Current or 8.0 Release CD to =A0install an= d it just >> hangs on; >> >> "Probing devices, =A0please wait (this can take a while)... " >> >> I've waited almost an hour. how long is it supposed to take? It would be= nice if >> there were a status bar or spinning wheel or something to let you know i= f it's >> doing anything or hung. What can I do to get this to install. >> >> AMD Phenom 9500 Quad-Core 2.20 GHz >> 2G RAM >> >> Drive: >> Seagate ST31000333AS > > This is probably just grasping at straws, but any chance your hard > drive is failing? Time to try checking the SMART data on the drive? Cheers, -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 01:40:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFCC1065675 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:40:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376E28FC0A for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:40:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 865B73A3B84 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:40:34 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1279590034; x= 1281404434; bh=M1lYQlgvoVXeZnEd8WtMfTQfCXjXsyjPuEJIPB1qUfo=; b=Y RrLZP9lBrQHePuEDX/mkjgRLRtZMk2kH4+PcjtAMs6omjZIS3GvMcK7Qf6LHREUx 2flF4263NKiL0WCJaci7N1J4d9tszA3c1wS20+RUwYjPzHzmCVDpbRVVSJUORvpy 2K76M4UAUx0balSmUdDOSVFEPYDmQ27Cr4vl7QqYt0= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id zPN7wcbfucQJ for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:40:34 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F4583A3B83 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:40:34 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o6K1eX7a050472; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:40:33 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:40:33 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <201007200140.o6K1eX7a050472@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <19524.43056.507309.913955@yeti.mininet> (markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) References: <19523.21705.648520.937010@yeti.mininet> <86eif0xi0f.fsf@chateau.d.if> <19524.43056.507309.913955@yeti.mininet> Subject: Re: Emacs splash screen went to textmode only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:40:36 -0000 Hi, > 4) Another instance of Emacs on my desktop, this time running in a > terminal. The startup screen is yet another one. In this one, I clearly recognize emacs being run inside an ascii terminal. Ascii terminal do not have graphic possibility (nor mousse) so it is only normal that there is no graphic splash screen. If it is the same version of emacs that you run on the instances 2 and 3, I would look for a X issue. Do you have an environment variable set in the xterm? In that xterm, can you launch another xterm? Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 03:04:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC586106566B for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:04:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4068FC0A for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:04:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so6839356vws.13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:04:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=9ByP1sD0u/HSIAI+IE8sDgZsGh6leDfeDuhjdNeO/+Y=; b=qcSJSiBqf/s5HacydDb8VAkjFpzo3Wg49/WJeVzJkTy8jj4t2ITudr0FkbkD+DVsDE 7nC8nldKdYzmmPfWzQwxMNCFFUvSH2otA7r90lmw7KfmUg8iPQH8nAh7XUlCCzB/AHAp 01R4H5CFRGC/esVV6ks7n621YBRvLY2IUyezA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=kZFn4OPotFi4Iowev6kXKpt6mZchrcP9d5b1PomM6td0PfKMIJXg7qHOJKNXCQ4eOO E2wMaz/7zH2CZTcinOdKc660hD6zs5r8JV5zKQqB8lC4LshJXoKaWrmhF2DF2Bal1cD8 XdBwGTuRNVTDkgfSqodFuF4pwLGTyKQjhYtPI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.35.218 with SMTP id q26mr5064601qad.36.1279595064165; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.29.71 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:04:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:04:24 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Jim Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sockets stuck in use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:04:25 -0000 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 3:12 AM, Jim wrote: > I was working on an application I've been developing, and I closed the > last instance a bit over 12 hours ago, but some of the sockets are > still stuck in use: > [sjss@elrond ~/dev/pipe/scripts]$ netstat | grep -e 'tcp' | grep 9612 > tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.80.42464 192.168.1.2.9612 SYN_SENT > tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.80.35742 192.168.1.2.9612 CLOSED > tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.80.46116 192.168.1.2.9612 CLOSED > tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.80.36792 192.168.1.2.9612 CLOSED > > > Is there any way to get rid of them without restarting the machine? I > was playing with sockopt SO_KEEPALIVE and SO_LINGER when I caused this > issue.. > sockstat(1) will tell you process that has the socket open, can you kill it from there? -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 03:23:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643EF1065674 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:23:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rl001@pacbell.net) Received: from web81102.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81102.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 222228FC08 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:23:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 93213 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jul 2010 03:23:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pacbell.net; s=s1024; t=1279596211; bh=3Rzmo0xmrhJcdrtXsSh8OKSV3gsI+VlDW15bSYXBZt8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dbC5PHXDIOFH+tS5K1aoFDIuvLaf0Hw3hHhFLnqKudr+zhF5wG5Otc9mfKYkf6UIYWwpBhm2GmNkFnLMTUSendurh7ci5Yv8mHYLgzIWpoIgfOOexlbOjRx7igXGwUQPS7D+Hj4TCSiFvDdje9DkkUScr/0jGljCK6RHkfimAho= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KV1O5h+0HJ3/z3okMuJnYEdofI3kyvcbppG9sepyuiq4SJmoMBsm7VQrZypKVCQggBMc3tEnRsizqkcMnTvgiAWoC2QiLShz/CYE/ea7QnlCe7oFSZ61X4ToEAJoR0qyssOlzRYi4v3l0LxmGu5D2EPYaDyOAsuAvm7YDYc8jkY=; Message-ID: <509194.92026.qm@web81102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: fzEKL0kVM1kqU.18dOO8IJ2kBj1P7QvODf171EvLOkd1az9 l8q94HiecgBROLYMez97XkGf2luJHGULjqEgMMFBLrVefuP1GoRAGOarElPT Z0dOIQPkp4AMAEffsbpYfqu6wak0Ovxaw5O9N64SNrHzb048Agg3s.eRO_TE oQFH8V1bcVgRCfsNjaTFkfxB37mPWZUXLhvNfy8kf1j6Atl7AH8WNKW2F5ws y9RmcKclUth7Iby_zX4HkJTu0xXOWwNJY_Mg8Ys3rEU1LNhUGAxURHhNRF84 MZQNIuObOhcCjgGwRDNqiTIlE1KNXgwHhJIyd_UeB2ro- Received: from [71.139.193.145] by web81102.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:23:31 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/420.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 References: <680862.29144.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100719230532.00006ace@unknown> <285052.53021.qm@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100720005958.d82c5a97.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100720001627.00005ebe@unknown> <20100720013418.0b4c4210.freebsd@edvax.de> <633204.64834.qm@web81104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <126CDA6C-B967-4466-8C0E-EEC88672BE9C@cwis.biz> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:23:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich To: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <126CDA6C-B967-4466-8C0E-EEC88672BE9C@cwis.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:23:32 -0000 Ok I booted on that disc and it hangs at the same place. not sure what to do next. What is the "fixit" menu? ________________________________ From: Ryan Coleman To: Rich Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 6:23:45 PM Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " Rich, Here they are: 8.0 i386: ftp://ftp11.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/8.0/8.0-RELEASE-i386-livefs.iso 8.0 AMD64: ftp://ftp11.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-amd64/8.0/8.0-RELEASE-amd64-livefs.iso Each is < 640MB On Jul 19, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Rich wrote: > I couldn't find a live CD fro 8.0 Release. All I could find was at this site; > > http://livecd.sourceforge.net/download.php > > It's 4.6, is that useful? Anyway, it booted up to the login prompt without > hanging. What does that tell us? Is there anything I can check with this disk >or > > is there somewhere I can get the 8.0 live CD? > > > > ________________________________ > From: Polytropon > To: Bruce Cran > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Rich > Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 4:34:18 PM > Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a > while)... " > > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:16:27 +0100, Bruce Cran wrote: >> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:59:58 +0200 >> Polytropon wrote: >> >>> I would suggest to boot with the live system CD, e. g. of 8.0-RELEASE. >>> It should not launch sysinstall automatically (you can even boot the >>> CD into SUM), so you end up with a regular shell. First, check all >>> the kernel's output for things that look... strange... and maybe you >>> even decide to install the system without sysinstall (if THAT is >>> what's causing all the trouble). >> >> Unfortunately the LiveFS CD does run sysinstall by default - you need >> to go to the Fixit menu to get the shell. > > Yes - that's what I intended to suggest. :-) > > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 04:30:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D541065676 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 04:30:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from avmxsmtp3.comclark.com (avmxsmtp3.comclark.com [202.69.191.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54B28FC14 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 04:29:59 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiMSACfDREzKRaxEPGdsb2JhbAAHn3IBAQEBNcJyhSIEg32HGQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,230,1278259200"; d="scan'208";a="14027520" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.10.3]) ([202.69.172.68]) by avmxsmtp3.comclark.com with ESMTP; 20 Jul 2010 12:29:57 +0800 Message-ID: <4C452644.6060508@comclark.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:29:56 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: new jail utility is available. announcement. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 04:30:00 -0000 This is a news announcement to inform people who have interest in jails, that a new jail utility is available. http://sourceforge.net/projects/qjail/ Has a file suitable for the pkg_add command or the port make files can be downloaded and a "make install" run. Qjail [ q = quick ] is a 4th generation wrapper for the basic chroot jail system that includes security and performance enhancements. Plus a new level of "user friendliness" enhancements dealing with deploying just a few jails or large jail environments consisting of 100's of jails. Qjail requires no knowledge of the jail command usage. It uses "nullfs" for read-only system binaries, sharing one copy of them with all the jails. Uses "mdconfig" to create sparse image jails. Sparse image jails provide a method to limit the total disk space a jail can consume, while only occupying disk space of the sum size of the files in the image jail. Ability to assign ip address with their network device name, so aliases are auto created on jail start and auto removed on jail stop. Ability to create "ZONE"s of identical qjail systems, each with their own group of jails. Ability to designate a portion of the jail name as a group prefix so the command being executed will apply to only those jail names matching that prefix. Qjail reduces the complexities of small and large jail deployments to the novice level. Qjail has a fully documented manpage written for easy comprehension. Details are given to felicitate the use of qjail's capabilities to the fullest extent possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 05:46:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACC7106564A for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 05:46:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [204.109.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2ECA8FC0C for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 05:46:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (client-86-31-3-93.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.31.3.93]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9D2B15D42; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 05:46:33 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 06:46:58 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Rich Message-ID: <20100720064658.000006e8@unknown> In-Reply-To: <768426.41966.qm@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <680862.29144.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100719230532.00006ace@unknown> <285052.53021.qm@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100720005958.d82c5a97.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100720001627.00005ebe@unknown> <768426.41966.qm@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 05:46:43 -0000 On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Rich wrote: > I tried this but pressing F2 doesn't do anything. Sorry - I meant Alt-F2 to switch VTYs. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 06:09:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB0A106566C for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 06:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [204.109.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D858FC19 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 06:09:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (client-86-31-3-93.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.31.3.93]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0C6FD5D42; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 06:09:22 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:09:48 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <20100720070948.00001fc6@unknown> In-Reply-To: <76C2A9EE-BB8A-4D04-B10F-0B9B5F6AA1F3@mac.com> References: <680862.29144.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100719230532.00006ace@unknown> <285052.53021.qm@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <76C2A9EE-BB8A-4D04-B10F-0B9B5F6AA1F3@mac.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD - , Rich Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 06:09:33 -0000 On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:17:06 -0700 Chuck Swiger wrote: > There's not quite enough information here to identify your > motherboard, but you should make sure there aren't any BIOS upgrades > available for it, as those might help resolve this level of issue. > > Check your BIOS config for the disks carefully, and try adjusting the > options you have. In particular, try choosing LBA mode rather than > auto or CHS, and try to toggle through "ACPI (or SATA mode)" vs. "IDE > (or PATA compatibility)" vs. "enhanced (often meaning some form of > BIOS RAID is enabled)" and see whether any of them work. > > If that doesn't do the trick, you could wander through your BIOS > menus, and disable all of the non-essential stuff like parallel & > serial ports, second NIC, or anything else which is not needed, and > see whether that does any good...but that's getting into stuff which > is less likely to make a difference. The code that's being run does the following: 1. Finds all network interfaces. 2. Finds all CDROM, floppy, disk and network devices that might be needed for installation. 3. Finds all partitions on the disks to register. I'd guess it's hanging on a syscall somewhere, but there really isn't much debugging output in usr.sbin/sysinstall/devices.c to know where, unless the kernel has printed some errors to the debug console. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 06:19:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D324F1065673 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 06:19:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sektie@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826158FC16 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 06:19:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so7031715vws.13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:19:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0WRu5BG5EilipKEAmdANZ9xhM3BE5wpWaPqYgrpYugs=; b=ntyDaK1il8bmV8PglrCraLd6IeFeUr18Q4cSOILcDnHBbok/uR9w6DqoDA9Nbm4YEL z/TJwIDmjaOyzQQXgmYIRVp9Y449dGcoTLP2/6C64v9HJ7K/IjMQe2uwHmocZyWrWsCx J41G6OmyX5OVpK8hHmeBnLJGweDT8O/5Y6Oio= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=SgFuf6L2BiaGNKUqqVVHNtN2aA52qoclEcCuJOx6Itw7TOPYwmzbwAZOJTBX6Ihi7u xOVwq4xLUO0td4mS1BTm3UPls8zeGCRKsLlu2apNV6IYLiOcJYDPgRLR17Jn5a1qGmXd 6tx5vi2jIKkytuv+tqR5FEpwHz0TXYUMESrbE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.125.16 with SMTP id w16mr3160869vcr.84.1279606746435; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Sender: sektie@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.202.131 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:19:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100720070948.00001fc6@unknown> References: <680862.29144.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100719230532.00006ace@unknown> <285052.53021.qm@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <76C2A9EE-BB8A-4D04-B10F-0B9B5F6AA1F3@mac.com> <20100720070948.00001fc6@unknown> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:19:06 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: mypHFslLzmbtGRuaDlOHh07_rKE Message-ID: From: Randi Harper To: Bruce Cran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD - , Rich Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 06:19:08 -0000 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:17:06 -0700 > Chuck Swiger wrote: > >> There's not quite enough information here to identify your >> motherboard, but you should make sure there aren't any BIOS upgrades >> available for it, as those might help resolve this level of issue. >> >> Check your BIOS config for the disks carefully, and try adjusting the >> options you have. =A0In particular, try choosing LBA mode rather than >> auto or CHS, and try to toggle through "ACPI (or SATA mode)" vs. "IDE >> (or PATA compatibility)" vs. "enhanced (often meaning some form of >> BIOS RAID is enabled)" and see whether any of them work. >> >> If that doesn't do the trick, you could wander through your BIOS >> menus, and disable all of the non-essential stuff like parallel & >> serial ports, second NIC, or anything else which is not needed, and >> see whether that does any good...but that's getting into stuff which >> is less likely to make a difference. > > > The code that's being run does the following: > > 1. Finds all network interfaces. > 2. Finds all CDROM, floppy, disk and network devices that might be > needed for installation. > 3. Finds all partitions on the disks to register. > > I'd guess it's hanging on a syscall somewhere, but there really isn't > much debugging output in usr.sbin/sysinstall/devices.c to know where, > unless the kernel has printed some errors to the debug console. > > -- > Bruce Cran > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > This is why I suspected #3 - maybe querying the disk and hanging because of bad disk? Hard to say without debug logs. -- randi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 07:21:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031BA106566C for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:21:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wahjava@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f182.google.com (mail-px0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2BDB8FC22 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:21:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi8 with SMTP id 8so2479796pxi.13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:21:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:received:from:to:cc :subject:organization:references:x-face:x-uptime:x-url :x-operating-system:x-openpgp-id:x-openpgp-fingerprint:x-mailer :x-mail-morse:x-attribution:organisation:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:face:mime-version:content-type; bh=i3k8b061n0rsnMJ/++jqPahR6asp4s6fSBLzQl2PEpU=; b=JVhfGRVBNDNBu4F0A58nVGofw9OMhu0BJwJRJ9ztirScU7QVrG0Zdeib2h9L9Ox5SG aaWt/MDyBLdJiinaPf+TjjtihtnS4KbECOyHE/1pWr3a4C9gJOmImai2YzwFnWfbddgd tyv3y1RsRoSd7wpqC91i7ke90ueMKgykK68pE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:x-face:x-uptime :x-url:x-operating-system:x-openpgp-id:x-openpgp-fingerprint :x-mailer:x-mail-morse:x-attribution:organisation:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:face:mime-version:content-type; b=EZtdChTZejhbCj2yIRsLAXvQYcv6wK7LfGhUI2PrS91Xu8v0B8M6K5POaxVQplGV6c vyi5e5FztM1bk6kgX1TjEBynJ4gV+sHbxs/8E9U2uvnNwSeAasn30r4psHUX8Scq6v/A HAM+J4mcFnXaAFbpiFDnMOpuZ9ffuMd/LFZrQ= Received: by 10.142.180.1 with SMTP id c1mr8814983wff.59.1279610469453; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chateau.d.if ([122.163.153.210]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b1sm17993769rvn.14.2010.07.20.00.21.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:21:08 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Ashish SHUKLA Received: from chateau.d.if (chateau.d.if [IPv6:::1]) by chateau.d.if (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68744ACC0; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:51:01 +0530 (IST) From: ashish@FreeBSD.org (Ashish SHUKLA) To: "Markus Hoenicka" Organization: The FreeBSD Project References: <19523.21705.648520.937010@yeti.mininet> <86eif0xi0f.fsf@chateau.d.if> <19524.43056.507309.913955@yeti.mininet> X-Face: )vGQ9yK7Y$Flebu1C>(B\gYBm)[$zfKM+p&TT[[JWl6:]S>cc$%-z7-`46Zf0B*syL.C]oCq[upTG~zuS0.$"_%)|Q@$hA=9{3l{%u^h3jJ^Zl; t7 X-Uptime: 12:38PM up 1:41, 6 users, load averages: 0.05, 0.07, 0.10 X-URL: http://762e5e74.wordpress.com/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p4/amd64 X-OpenPGP-ID: E74FA4B0 X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: F682 CDCC 39DC 0FEA E116 20B6 C746 CFA9 E74F A4B0 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.13 X-Mail-Morse: .-- .- .... .--- .- ...- .- .--.-. --. -- .- .. .-.. .-.-.- -.-. --- -- X-Attribution: =?utf-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3?= Organisation: The FreeBSD Project Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:51:00 +0530 In-Reply-To: <19524.43056.507309.913955@yeti.mininet> (Markus Hoenicka's message of "Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:32:00 +0200") Message-ID: <8639vefwkj.fsf@chateau.d.if> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJ1BMVEWpqal/f39tbW1jY2Md HR2goKCenp6UlJROTk7////9/f35+fnT09ORJdieAAACVklEQVQ4jXXUP2vbQBQA8AvUTkgz5OzY Z0iGWhpS6BSrkECn0mvx0MEJ6AjtYrfoBCVDlD8naJYmNlRfwZq8+mkKlIZaGpJSYmP7Q/XkJDrJ Td8i/H68u3vHPaPufwLdf32AMA4A6GcAgvAamY1pOJiDIFqicTwLswDhfr3uxfFtkAY/GFHPMwzD 8zpnACmIOnE6js7rQb+v4NJrG9od0C+QgpHMy5jBewV+UDSMWiw1Y4fWfyV7+NGFzDsYa3pth9LJ Q4XvXxFHcJRvHOmygn5NAEabnDcQQguarnfoiwSCJ99jmKKcphsZONmWsDK9Ro7cvZOCtQdg8nje egLhc2LNlkLmsezzTFUUy5w18ocox/f0LaLgJy0zO75zk+9pp85GAj36xjqhdI0y3tq2m4dqqcWX zQWBTz8L1irvolXV4J+3q7eCDgVnttjNq6X8H+9KOZsuNk1uCzx8pSp+E9HImfJOTLdcGqo+YKnG EIovizkEn48V7BO+ch2DXcD4ENSpWiU+q8hjjbgTBZCXnZtyj0Ws4Q1Q0B2WXFtYZo65Bbyeeldw RS6qFueM80LlLA29YlVwGRYvFD+kwI/0O+A2PlpOP9GwslUVciHuYGechuBTp922YiDZCrghTknm XSyOM+D3aoRZlo0Jb42zY7DN4p2x4AeZ+QAYutx1sHwTHzMT5cMNduQ9yW3GczN4KZ86kb0c9O8T yXDeFqpl2fryPEAYGXIlezAPXYh2NgVr/gvdoHIuDwuPwOhcWE8f8mmICq41eATkn8x0kuRTIKcB wE9+/QUtiiAnYcaN7wAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Emacs splash screen went to textmode only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:21:11 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Markus Hoenicka writes: > Ashish SHUKLA writes: >> Can you upload the screenshot of what you're getting ? >>=20 > Hi, > I've uploaded a screenshot right here: > http://www.abload.de/img/emacs-splashaws1.png > The image shows four incarnations of Emacs. These are, clockwise > starting from upper left: > 1) Emacs started remotely on my laptop through ssh. This Emacs is > slightly older (23.1.1) than the one on my desktop (23.2.1). This is > what an unfiddled-with splash screen is supposed to look like in > recent versions. > 2) Emacs started on my desktop, using -q -no-site-file as per your > suggestion. There are no graphics and no colors. Can you please provide output of following: 1. "xrdb -q|grep '^Emacs'" from an terminal running in X11. 2. "(display-grayscale-p)" in *scratch* buffer in GNU Emacs running in X11. 3. "system-configuration-options" in *scratch* buffer in GNU Emacs. Thanks =2D-=20 Ashish SHUKLA | GPG: F682 CDCC 39DC 0FEA E116 20B6 C746 CFA9 E74F A4B0 freebsd.org!ashish | http://people.freebsd.org/~ashish/ =E2=80=9CI find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting. But = it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously.=E2=80= =9D (Douglas Adams) --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJMRU5dAAoJEMdGz6nnT6SwcyAP/2yLNs5Q0PVTMtK2ytmBipIv wkK9splrZ7XJCisYuGqZ5767RBHCo3P5A0Oc0jEEMur2Ri3aOSeWiMp85lF1NDh7 taE0cudSSlmfyXZ59Jo0O6dpJsm/vp16foRtoqbRQ1ohkPpOYTApF0i1WkFz7+9Z ouKod+5LsaRHKpODyOTNJW0soMpMWDqxhBh37gxsJVvV7vXTL0c0ENNmHQv6Xtf3 P0omzN5IeapUGfnPHbpHDdTLj9Tk6YzgxaH4OYQUF7yyB/nOd1glmdz52rfB2dyi uC9JukfjekQcx16ylAtC0KURgYnUl7Ob8mfpUbXlk+0w7g0hYK9bADBUYZ7Nxckt YpXDVdwRgoQ8mHqQWflEZ4mvsBOvq05sgMZujgieLFLyNwxIgBDJIdO8d7nBEB8l atUlJ+6Jj29zCOj0mYA+O33oCiDP+zAz5QdMQaqBUbZbSRxLECIWzit4Y3XgIPXY KKf83k9h1ajgLwwlfiKDrqz7Lup0bJXBsS946aCQaFHA9R8cl/Xt2gKlI7vnWndN JFcfuuVpvEGMb1zTAf7ZCGzScszDYr+zafW1m+A5BbsHF6DiZl53Yu57VpkUNhIA DKCZDVI8RjmP8xN2wtIDkNQl21nujK2TV8y//tjLBIp3BbY98YgoA0WsJolps/oA vW1gw+vn5N8r1LK7qD3K =OJdW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 07:52:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7BD1065674 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:52:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6727@bellsouth.net) Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [204.127.217.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBBD8FC17 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:52:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mueller6722.bellsouth.net (adsl-18-68-16.sdf.bellsouth.net[68.18.68.16]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc03) with SMTP id <20100720074207H03002tom5e>; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:42:08 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.18.68.16] Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:42:09 +0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4c455351.iveHHylYsmZKh9Xe%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:52:11 -0000 I had this problem trying to install FreeBSD on my old computer: Cx486DX2 CPU at 66 MHz; 20 MB RAM; 1.2 GB IDE hard drive; 2x Texel, now Plextor, CD-ROM on Trantor T130B SCSI (NCR5380 chip; no support in FreeBSD >= 3.0); Iomega Zip 250 on same SCSI card. That was in the days of FreeBSD 4.x. No such problem on my newer computer with FreeBSD 7.x and now 8.0. I wondered if this part had been revamped with FreeBSD 5.x. If you could boot a FreeBSD live file system, for which downloadable iso images are now available, you might be able to look at the sysinstall scripts, and after partitioning/disklabeling (bsdlabel), you might be able to newfs and make mount points, and untar the pieces (base.aa, base.ab, etc) onto the desired FreeBSD target slice. I've wondered why FreeBSD installation sets (base, etc, games, comp, man and others) are broken into pieces of 1392 KB each as opposed to each installation set in a single .tgz or .tbz (base.tgz, etc.tgz, comp.tgz, and others: that's how NetBSD does it). NetBSD installation CD also offers a utility shell (sh). With floppy disks and floppy drives showing their age, I wouldn't be able to get enough good floppy disks together to install FreeBSD from floppies, and I believe others would have the same problem. I never actually did this, so I can't be sure if I'd succeed: decidedly not user-friendly but might be interesting to try in a pinch. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 10:55:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67591106564A for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:55:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3C08FC12 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:55:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyh6 with SMTP id 6so1370057eyh.13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:55:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bQRDZYkyk5VEqgzonshROxF4FZo7dgR47N4vjO4SM8M=; b=IM8j0vdRRwRQIpxLE8dYfj71Kw24FZzgiUgjAsXVB2yadug3lNh+UTNKuEVRRPmKxS dWp+k8lPZnuRUM9wfPyEwC8bJ1VSoBSovDHYe2XrzxxYo6fek+jicLeW/8R+nC/TIwYj 950QC3VosveZQnjYNLcHhdOsEfbwOeUeuwzhQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qRGZMvvL7EDKfQzvI2Daa/zNfzKvGMWYDREAiMKWFRJuuWueNomYzrkIrQR2WkTacL dMzwY7UuGTT4UhWfFloQWrkVUcmT2qDIJXaaMrtXt9XahcfEOYla5QF0zvMyxtZFQv9K ndsd6ku2S+97qXCmqECF57OtjJc7l7vGtbIqg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.178.199 with SMTP id f49mr5031870wem.110.1279623335554; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:55:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.172.4 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:55:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 06:55:35 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jim To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: sockets stuck in use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:55:37 -0000 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Adam Vande More w= rote: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 3:12 AM, Jim wrote: >> >> I was working on an application I've been developing, and I closed the >> last instance a bit over 12 hours ago, but some of the sockets are >> still stuck in use: >> [sjss@elrond ~/dev/pipe/scripts]$ netstat | grep -e 'tcp' | grep 9612 >> tcp4 =A0 =A0 =A0 0 =A0 =A0 =A00 192.168.1.80.42464 =A0 =A0 192.168.1.2.9= 612 =A0 =A0 =A0 SYN_SENT >> tcp4 =A0 =A0 =A0 0 =A0 =A0 =A00 192.168.1.80.35742 =A0 =A0 192.168.1.2.9= 612 =A0 =A0 =A0 CLOSED >> tcp4 =A0 =A0 =A0 0 =A0 =A0 =A00 192.168.1.80.46116 =A0 =A0 192.168.1.2.9= 612 =A0 =A0 =A0 CLOSED >> tcp4 =A0 =A0 =A0 0 =A0 =A0 =A00 192.168.1.80.36792 =A0 =A0 192.168.1.2.9= 612 =A0 =A0 =A0 CLOSED >> >> >> Is there any way to get rid of them without restarting the machine? I >> was playing with sockopt SO_KEEPALIVE and SO_LINGER when I caused this >> issue.. > > sockstat(1) will tell you process that has the socket open, can you kill = it > from there? > > -- > Adam Vande More > Thanks... That told me "who" to kill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 11:03:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CD51065679 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:03:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BCCE8FC12 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:03:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so2955975fxm.13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 04:03:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mtWmjuwxivtf55d2Urk9UhA44jgkJ+8CVGl3+pEzaUU=; b=EfmQ7dUW7ESPXnqIWE7DHixatnrsA3vCvjRemYAkBs1BRH8gHIB2+66IiSyyj8C9qk kOVKFvCExthzethXmUyVNB8LvfPoafEl0go4m6fOASkirbC9cHVLyOqA6+GEnBqN/VCT s01B8ZzZ/Bt42ozo7gq2Y3C2aqJYAE3q4JiXE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=T8Jo3/CKFzJTRNmUdZyoaULqqTrEnMd4OS2PkenbBPKx7/qZgHOBVAvXV2+BVsv+6z watpSbIQ1Db2UWQyXL3pWoaXoUxvBpJ0Eia5FbR/h7khmLFGTcohpt7C/WzptYcMpOwA epd5tOHYRP09KQYBPq6W1dAi91CnQI7FDBOf8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.140.2 with SMTP id v2mr474082hbv.98.1279623789716; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 04:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.160.201 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 04:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:03:09 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Dtrace ustack status X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:03:11 -0000 Hi, Does anyone know what the status of dtrace being able to trace userland processes is? I see there are few patches out there but am unsure of the reliability etc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 11:19:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FF81065675 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:19:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE26D8FC08 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:19:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3242450bwz.13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 04:19:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=cRNiMMljAsnBv4qksoR7ZtqRB/S14DQTQFNIXXQAaWI=; b=YqMSTF30f5TBaRXgcDvqu4pdAZ6ZcYaJnDeSl3jsdNp9/EDQRQUFBghpp8HSHUtGW5 2Wno3Yjb7Y7RSiPvwJj0BGc/TgKONIJZYbZKBq+Bo9wx+GoJU8HEa+gxmVD1fHSCkTZf ClioTE6RiiDHSKO/J+t0i9Uitz8PUg8a3/sx8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=dEYGbBUh8D+AChd33RB8qu203Xege/xTgNEZryeZjauIbI3B0aOOx/tbmqWJKdhML0 hWvjxC+lty6iHoueoKuXSYIDJyQribS95VrezDUtk+gR6PkjJ3Lk0nR2rHAu6mCxppov 3z1B6Zkh0AKwVb5Qctkrwu7uZD/3yP8STSUdg= Received: by 10.204.152.4 with SMTP id e4mr5022552bkw.120.1279624745613; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 04:19:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.48.76 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 04:18:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Zbigniew Szalbot Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:18:50 +0200 Message-ID: To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: custom log in website folder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:19:07 -0000 Dear all, All my website logs are in /var/log but one user would like to have access to a custom log specific to his site. Sites are in /usr/local/v/ How can I make /var/log/custom.log available to him in /usr/local/v/site/logs/? Does it need a symlink? But will he be able to read the log if it is only a symlink to /var/log/custom.log? I'd appreciate your suggestions and sorry for asking a basically non-freebsd related question but this community has always been a wonderul source of inspiration and help. Thank you! Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 10:05:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0DA1065688 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexk@specialisterren.nl) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B78B8FC08 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyh6 with SMTP id 6so1352810eyh.13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.31.129 with SMTP id y1mr5974039ebc.42.1279618623855; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 02:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.117] ([188.201.152.137]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v59sm51261206eeh.4.2010.07.20.02.37.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 02:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C456E3E.6060908@specialisterren.nl> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:37:02 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; nl; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100512 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:21:02 +0000 Cc: Sjoerd van der Maaden Subject: HP proliant ML 150 G6 Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:05:02 -0000 Hi, I'm in looking for FreeBSD server for my employer. The server will be our main server. At the moment we are looking at 'HP proliant ML 150 G6 server' and are keen on hearing about users experience. Any advice or personal experience on this matter would be most welcomed. http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF05a/15351-15351-241434-241646-3328424-3884323.html Yours, Alex P.S. Please CC me, as I am not on the list. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 11:27:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B8B106566C for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:27:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc2-cmbg1-0-0-cust385.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [82.21.105.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CCA08FC20 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:27:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan by catflap.slightlystrange.org with local (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ObAyv-000F01-Hz for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:27:29 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:27:29 +0100 From: Daniel Bye To: User Questions Message-ID: <20100720112729.GB82621@catflap.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: User Questions References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kORqDWCi7qDJ0mEj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-PRERELEASE amd64 Sender: Daniel Bye Subject: Re: custom log in website folder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:27:31 -0000 --kORqDWCi7qDJ0mEj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 01:18:50PM +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Dear all, >=20 > All my website logs are in /var/log but one user would like to have > access to a custom log specific to his site. Sites are in > /usr/local/v/ >=20 > How can I make /var/log/custom.log available to him in /usr/local/v/site/= logs/? >=20 > Does it need a symlink? But will he be able to read the log if it is > only a symlink to /var/log/custom.log? >=20 > I'd appreciate your suggestions and sorry for asking a basically > non-freebsd related question but this community has always been a > wonderul source of inspiration and help. You can probably configure your web server to write separate logs for=20 each site you host. That way, you don't need to expose the entire log=20 data to each user - each will see only what's relevant to their site. How you do this depends on the web server you use, of course. You should also be able to have the log files written to your preferred location. Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --kORqDWCi7qDJ0mEj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxFiCEACgkQixf5fBYiFmrMVACfWCNk3oJzan8r04t4fOvwiAaw nvMAn0TdnBLK8Vs6V1cisDUFXXim258x =CR+w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --kORqDWCi7qDJ0mEj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 12:02:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED07D106568F for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [204.109.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4CB8FC1E for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:02:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (client-86-31-3-93.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.31.3.93]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DC5055D42; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:02:21 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:02:48 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: krad Message-ID: <20100720130248.00003a47@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Dtrace ustack status X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:02:32 -0000 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:03:09 +0100 krad wrote: > Does anyone know what the status of dtrace being able to trace > userland processes is? I see there are few patches out there but am > unsure of the reliability etc. http://freebsdfoundation.blogspot.com/2010/06/dtrace-userland-project.html -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 12:16:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0DFD1065675 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:16:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ns.kfs.ru) Received: from ns.kfs.ru (kfs.kfs.ru [194.186.81.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107018FC14 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:16:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bsam by ns.kfs.ru with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ObBjs-000ItK-R3; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:16:00 +0400 To: Joe Marcus Clarke References: <20100719094937.78096cc5@scorpio> <4C446D04.2020608@freebsd.org> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:16:00 +0400 In-Reply-To: <4C446D04.2020608@freebsd.org> (Joe Marcus Clarke's message of "Mon\, 19 Jul 2010 11\:19\:32 -0400") Message-ID: <94020271@serv3.int.kfs.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: "Boris B. Samorodov" Cc: gnome@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jerry Subject: Re: nautilus crashing on "right click > properties" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:16:07 -0000 Joe Marcus Clarke writes: > On 7/19/10 9:49 AM, Jerry wrote: >> FreeBSD 8.1-PRERELEASE / amd64 >> Platform Version 4.4.5 (KDE 4.4.5) >> >> I installed nautilus via the /usr/ports/sysutils/eiciel port. I can >> start nautilus successfully, however, whenever I right click on a file >> or directory and choose "properties", nautilus crashes. I tried to >> build it with debug support; however, I am not getting much info back. [...] >> Eel:ERROR:eel-wrap-table.c:494:wrap_table_get_num_fitting: assertion >> failed: (max_child_size > 0) Sometime ago I tried to use nautilus with fluxbox. Nautilus (launched at xterm) crashed with similar error. I didn't have full gnome2 installation at that host. [...] >> I am not sure if the problem is actually with nautilus or eiciel. > > Most likely eiciel given the errors. Remove it, and see if the crash > persists. I don't think that it's an eiciel fault. Since nautilus works with gnome I assume that not all dependencies are build/installed for pure nautilus port. -- WBR, bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 13:26:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C011065670 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09B48FC16 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:26:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (ool-43542559.dyn.optonline.net [67.84.37.89]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0L5U0067LYO42610@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:26:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by flosoft.no-ip.biz (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6KDQiFb031833 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:26:45 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:26:44 -0400 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:26:30 -0000 I am a consultant and was retained by my client to setup qmail or exim on a VPS running 8.0-STABLE (i386). After setting up the DNS (A record and MX record) we have been unable to send or receive mail. The client has/had a working script for installing qmail on 7.1-STABLE but it seems to not work on 8.0-STABLE. They are using the same VPS provider who this 7.1-STABLE install script worked under. I have tried everything I can think of to make it work including asking obvious questions on -questions@. I informed the client that the task is likely beyond me capabilities but I would help recruit someone who would be able to do it at a reasonable fee paid to them (I am acting as a no cost middle man on this [I am helping the client for free since I was unable to get it done]). Please send any ideas and/or offers to do the job From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 13:33:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AC51065678 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:33:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D2E8FC1E for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:33:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so7478002vws.13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 06:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.168.10 with SMTP id s10mr4045941vcy.50.1279632812654; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 06:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b8sm1572265vci.21.2010.07.20.06.33.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 06:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6399FE5484D for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:33:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:33:28 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100720093328.4f1bd5d0@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:33:34 -0000 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:26:44 -0400 Aryeh M. Friedman articulated: > I am a consultant and was retained by my client to setup qmail or exim > on a VPS running 8.0-STABLE (i386). After setting up the DNS (A record > and MX record) we have been unable to send or receive mail. The client > has/had a working script for installing qmail on 7.1-STABLE but it > seems to not work on 8.0-STABLE. They are using the same VPS provider > who this 7.1-STABLE install script worked under. I have tried > everything I can think of to make it work including asking obvious > questions on -questions@. > > I informed the client that the task is likely beyond me capabilities > but I would help recruit someone who would be able to do it at a > reasonable fee paid to them (I am acting as a no cost middle man on > this [I am helping the client for free since I was unable to get it > done]). > > Please send any ideas and/or offers to do the job I would seriously suggest that you consider installing Postfix. It is in the ports tree, is well maintained and works out of the box. The Postfix forum will be glad to give you any advice you need for setting up and securing your mail server. Qmail is no longer supported by its author and can be a nightmare to maintain. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ "I kind of want to slay the dragon. Let's go to work." Angel's final words. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 13:45:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E430E1065680 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:45:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5AC08FC21 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:45:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (ool-43542559.dyn.optonline.net [67.84.37.89]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0L5U00CD9ZKG0TR0@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:45:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by flosoft.no-ip.biz (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6KDk9Js031904 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:46:09 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:46:09 -0400 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" In-reply-to: <20100720093328.4f1bd5d0@scorpio> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <20100720094609.02f88f0baryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> <20100720093328.4f1bd5d0@scorpio> Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:46:00 -0000 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:33:28 -0400 Jerry wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:26:44 -0400 > Aryeh M. Friedman articulated: > > > I am a consultant and was retained by my client to setup qmail or > > exim on a VPS running 8.0-STABLE (i386). After setting up the DNS > > (A record and MX record) we have been unable to send or receive > > mail. The client has/had a working script for installing qmail on > > 7.1-STABLE but it seems to not work on 8.0-STABLE. They are using > > the same VPS provider who this 7.1-STABLE install script worked > > under. I have tried everything I can think of to make it work > > including asking obvious questions on -questions@. > > > > I informed the client that the task is likely beyond me capabilities > > but I would help recruit someone who would be able to do it at a > > reasonable fee paid to them (I am acting as a no cost middle man on > > this [I am helping the client for free since I was unable to get it > > done]). > > > > Please send any ideas and/or offers to do the job > > I would seriously suggest that you consider installing Postfix. It is > in the ports tree, is well maintained and works out of the box. The > Postfix forum will be glad to give you any advice you need for setting > up and securing your mail server. Qmail is no longer supported by its > author and can be a nightmare to maintain. > We had also tried sendmail and couldn't get that working either so I suspect it is a general config issue not a MTA one. (I have set sendmail up about 30 times in the past so I know a little bit about it) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 13:55:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2C21065675 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:55:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0008FC15 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kCv11e0010S2fkCA5DiAqN; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:42:10 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.9] ([76.113.183.74]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kDi81e00D1cjQTw8VDi9ew; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:42:10 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:42:08 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: User Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Subject: Re: custom log in website folder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:55:21 -0000 Assuming you're running apache make the virtualhost directive for the = domain look something like this: ServerName domain.com ServerAlias www.domain.com DocumentRoot /usr/local/v/site/logs/domain.com/htdocs/ CustomLog = /usr/local/v/site/logs/domain.com/logs/access_log "combined" ErrorLog /usr/local/v/site/logs/domain.com/logs/error_log Make the changes to the * if you need to and the domains. -- Ryan On Jul 20, 2010, at 6:18 AM, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Dear all, >=20 > All my website logs are in /var/log but one user would like to have > access to a custom log specific to his site. Sites are in > /usr/local/v/ >=20 > How can I make /var/log/custom.log available to him in = /usr/local/v/site/logs/? >=20 > Does it need a symlink? But will he be able to read the log if it is > only a symlink to /var/log/custom.log? >=20 > I'd appreciate your suggestions and sorry for asking a basically > non-freebsd related question but this community has always been a > wonderul source of inspiration and help. >=20 > Thank you! >=20 > Zbigniew Szalbot > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 14:11:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3E6106566B for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:11:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033958FC21 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:11:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so7528239vws.13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.124.129 with SMTP id u1mr3505323vcr.47.1279635096741; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h17sm1587509vcr.27.2010.07.20.07.11.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 326C7E5484D for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:11:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:11:33 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100720101133.2431e090@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20100720094609.02f88f0baryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> <20100720093328.4f1bd5d0@scorpio> <20100720094609.02f88f0baryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:11:38 -0000 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:46:09 -0400 Aryeh M. Friedman articulated: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:33:28 -0400 > Jerry wrote: > > > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:26:44 -0400 > > Aryeh M. Friedman articulated: > > > > > I am a consultant and was retained by my client to setup qmail or > > > exim on a VPS running 8.0-STABLE (i386). After setting up the DNS > > > (A record and MX record) we have been unable to send or receive > > > mail. The client has/had a working script for installing qmail on > > > 7.1-STABLE but it seems to not work on 8.0-STABLE. They are using > > > the same VPS provider who this 7.1-STABLE install script worked > > > under. I have tried everything I can think of to make it work > > > including asking obvious questions on -questions@. > > > > > > I informed the client that the task is likely beyond me capabilities > > > but I would help recruit someone who would be able to do it at a > > > reasonable fee paid to them (I am acting as a no cost middle man on > > > this [I am helping the client for free since I was unable to get it > > > done]). > > > > > > Please send any ideas and/or offers to do the job > > > > I would seriously suggest that you consider installing Postfix. It is > > in the ports tree, is well maintained and works out of the box. The > > Postfix forum will be glad to give you any advice you need for setting > > up and securing your mail server. Qmail is no longer supported by its > > author and can be a nightmare to maintain. > > > > We had also tried sendmail and couldn't get that working either so I > suspect it is a general config issue not a MTA one. (I have set > sendmail up about 30 times in the past so I know a little bit about it) Might I suggest that you supply some log entries that support your claims. It is hard to help you without actual facts. By the way, did you also try Postfix? -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ They spell it "da Vinci" and pronounce it "da Vinchy". Foreigners always spell better than they pronounce. Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 14:16:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A741065673 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:16:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA0C8FC1B for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:16:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 68-189-245-235.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.245.235] helo=cube.entropy.prv) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ObDcc-00091s-Nz; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:16:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by cube.entropy.prv (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB40242B87EE; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:16:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C45AFC4.7020304@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:16:36 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> In-Reply-To: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:16:45 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > I am a consultant and was retained by my client to setup qmail or exim > on a VPS running 8.0-STABLE (i386). After setting up the DNS (A record > and MX record) we have been unable to send or receive mail. The client > has/had a working script for installing qmail on 7.1-STABLE but it > seems to not work on 8.0-STABLE. They are using the same VPS provider > who this 7.1-STABLE install script worked under. I have tried > everything I can think of to make it work including asking obvious > questions on -questions@. > > I informed the client that the task is likely beyond me capabilities > but I would help recruit someone who would be able to do it at a > reasonable fee paid to them (I am acting as a no cost middle man on > this [I am helping the client for free since I was unable to get it > done]). > > Please send any ideas and/or offers to do the job Hi Aryeh, Here are some things that I do to troubleshoot problems like this: - - Check if there are any firewalls (client-side or server-side) that block the ports, tcp 25/587 and tcp 110/143 in this case. If you're using POP3 or IMAP over SSL, check tcp 993 and tcp 995, too. - - Check if the listening ports are ready to accept connections with the command "netstat -an | grep LISTEN". Do you see the ports you expect? - - Dumb question - are the mail server processes running? - - Assuming the processes are running and the ports are listening, what happens when you telnet to them from within the machine, e.g.: telnet localhost 25 telnet localhost 110 telnet localhost 143 - - Can you ping the mail server hostname? - - Use "dig" to do lookups on your A and MX records. Did you bump the DNS serial number and reload the DNS server after you added the records? - - If that works, now try telnetting to the same ports from an outside network using the DNS hostnames, e.g.: telnet my.mail.server.com 25 ... - - Please send me your hostname privately, if you like, and I can check DNS and ports from here. Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFMRa/E0sRouByUApARAsZwAJwIB6hXWwi2x2Wys94WyjHUJfF4fgCglmiR RYfOIA1ePOLwXcWj1xRrdFk= =j2tU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 14:42:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871061065670 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:42:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rl001@pacbell.net) Received: from web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4922C8FC0C for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:42:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 34019 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jul 2010 14:42:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pacbell.net; s=s1024; t=1279636938; bh=vCTeKfNg22+MfrPECTAjvcE4CxoRTknh15Bjdl/Fpmw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TeKiEUBjy/lKFMzF5UglV5+zDwnvRXwE9EhtROgTcfhjwfLJ8LeSMGuFBdJ3jKk8zY9cja90t1i+oIV3ej20CcfvVKb/YohCe4F7JGO+TmL+PDnpLnfWm9NB6Ktnuhd5lsGuvBU+reaen2bN1l5yfPgPiBN8ncKEIylhuNctw90= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0ht13LcXGhkSLhEhKFlp7MvcSu3nckI2KRwbN9mlKLf1575GgToETO7Ls4j+Oly3HurcbDbM+r+grmw2x2q4inAvRUISaKhAajWBS5MjTL9vyOaLLQEO75KJ/kijqFB6J9O4ttJjR89bGK4Y+bqkL2MhN2q4jdpBUv0W4QD9yIE=; Message-ID: <560860.33974.qm@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: nK7_spAVM1m.BAebOQFnl7cV5zaY2xyBYO8bYHoW.gMo0EU lhJniJ.6U13j6EVwNx2j6grxDtkHSLlrODj_v7w24E.aau4_4QQXSwt.pF8l z1w_s_SA4bCfjctnINYzF2jDFH5w7lQAekd3QMZoMhh5nVlpMCqMwnO2dFfN y.lCh1KUTIO3AhURPvTmBipo2WV7Uhf7T13d3Qx73XgBMjhaU6dVJZJvTcCU vyhKymMI.LA1.WL0cAKNhnaSvrKUuSEfzQnf30Fx4evHGRLMfbO1ej4xm2LJ zpflNwJGi3EcJbPqCbSRhJvkmXDUH88VauLY4ghzky_0oaYMhlnRxx.wbL5g OiZ_Q0or1hg-- Received: from [71.139.182.122] by web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:42:18 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/420.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 References: <680862.29144.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100719230532.00006ace@unknown> <285052.53021.qm@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100720005958.d82c5a97.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100720001627.00005ebe@unknown> <768426.41966.qm@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100720064658.000006e8@unknown> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:42:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich To: Bruce Cran In-Reply-To: <20100720064658.000006e8@unknown> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:42:19 -0000 Ok I booted on the 8.0 live CD and pressed Alt-F2 when it gets hung. In verbose mode it says this: DEBUG: ioctl(3, TIOCCONC, NULL) = 0 (success) DEBUG: MADT: Found CPUAPIC ID 1 enabled DEBUG: MADT: Found CPUAPIC ID 2 enabled DEBUG: MADT: Found CPUAPIC ID 3 enabled DEBUG: MADT: Found CPUAPIC ID 4 enabled DEBUG: Notify: Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... DEBUG: Found a network device named re0 DEBUG: Found a network device named re1 DEBUG: Found a network device named fwe0 DEBUG: Found a network device named fwip0 DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cd0 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cd0 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cd1 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cd1 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cd2 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cd2 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cd3 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cd3 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/mcd0 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/mcd0 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/mcd1 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/mcd1 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/mcd2 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/mcd2 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/mcd3 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/mcd3 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/scd0 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/scd0 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/scd1 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/scd1 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/scd2 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/scd2 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/scd3 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/scd3 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/acd0 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/acd0 succeeded on first try. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/acd1 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/acd1 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/acd2 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/acd2 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/acd3 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/acd3 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/fd0 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/fd0 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/fd1 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/fd1 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/fd2 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/fd2 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/fd3 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/fd3 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/scd0 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/scd0 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad0 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd0 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad1 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd1 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad2 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd2 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad3 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd3 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad4 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd4 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad5 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd5 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad6 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd6 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad7 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd7 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad8 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd8 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad9 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd9 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad10 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd10 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad11 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd11 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad12 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd12 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad13 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd13 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad14 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd14 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad15 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd15 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da0 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da0 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da1 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da1 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da2 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da2 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da3 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da3 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da4 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da4 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da5 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da5 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da6 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da6 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da7 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da7 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da8 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da8 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da9 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da9 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da10 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da10 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da11 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da11 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da12 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da12 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da13 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da13 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da14 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da14 failed. DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da15 DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da15 failed. Remember, this boots up perfectly fine with Windows 7 CD, Linux CD, FreeBSD 4.6 live CD and my Norton Ghost CD which can see all the partitions. Only FreeBSD 7.2, 8.0 and 9.0 CDs hang and maybe older ones too that I haven't tried but not 4.6. ________________________________ From: Bruce Cran To: Rich Cc: Polytropon ; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 10:46:58 PM Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Rich wrote: > I tried this but pressing F2 doesn't do anything. Sorry - I meant Alt-F2 to switch VTYs. -- Bruce Cran _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 14:47:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085301065675 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:47:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rl001@pacbell.net) Received: from web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC9308FC1D for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2821 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jul 2010 14:47:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pacbell.net; s=s1024; t=1279637278; bh=mbgfTwY6qY/Zfsw+HKheQQzYGdbEAhWSHPrbxc8HdZo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PDSUo6aA/7znnVmLtjtbXkYX+mxRISgfpltqPqupSlE8T+T9d3QKbkDIjajjD8Dmy4JaMYffEeZbaSRMB9gYZU3iwIpJL4B5NKMdTT6f9kR3nfT+Yw8Qh0+07CELEPLFPps7cCit6RNwE9bqWoTJqmuJ5Diheum3p4Wk4yVKpwU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ojS9bMGrQvyrDeKqPb5Ja5LRYy4iFRSXKtEDgZ2bLLUw5GJr/MtG/MDX0HNk67Wi4GykhMHzh8QbhjbZzZxgUuJJHTkWBD7OVW9veMXLicbQ5sqtmgNtJNEsptaiWq1+XQkmUqb9t6I1t9Dwm/0SwfRA/uukCx5gC4JqlGZ+/5A=; Message-ID: <104481.2568.qm@web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Pkt2RxQVM1logA6ESxC651_aK_ZyBeEBExVY7MhaQm6ROmk VCss110jRXftWut29PPHEWnP5ZTqxWANZbFY8MplBknawe.xBVaCYcfRk_LS EjyvzIlK3Jj3AGFtOvjNwsvU9V.x_3ZxqB7pwyxV.Zx4pu6JaRIXMJ5W4pZW jr11rpz_oWZpsxht7fOmnMlg4PaFggU9Y3yxypBKcZEl3Qf2x0Uz3jlmOXlJ HC6vvcchvtA0aBOhhibDfBWOxguiFPRyvMRsk0_GDuN4XSyo_qVFJZs0obwb 4EIIph4fVteNp4hlUuCIOdwGUN9yAXPRSbwN6DQSD.aLqU7kEKYV_C9tkYqA 1ycQZECuBeA-- Received: from [71.139.182.122] by web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:47:57 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/420.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 References: <680862.29144.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100719230532.00006ace@unknown> <285052.53021.qm@web81105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <76C2A9EE-BB8A-4D04-B10F-0B9B5F6AA1F3@mac.com> <20100720070948.00001fc6@unknown> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:47:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich To: Randi Harper , Bruce Cran In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:47:59 -0000 Disks are not bad. Works with other OSes. Problem is with FreeBSD. I've tried versions 4.6, 7.2, 8.0 and 9.0. Only FreeBSD 4.6 boots without hanging. I've not tried 5 or 6 but I guess I could if it would help to narrow down what the changes were in those versions. Something obviously changed along the way to cause it to hang. From: Randi Harper To: Bruce Cran Cc: Chuck Swiger ; FreeBSD - ; Rich Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 11:19:06 PM Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:17:06 -0700 > Chuck Swiger wrote: > >> There's not quite enough information here to identify your >> motherboard, but you should make sure there aren't any BIOS upgrades >> available for it, as those might help resolve this level of issue. >> >> Check your BIOS config for the disks carefully, and try adjusting the >> options you have. In particular, try choosing LBA mode rather than >> auto or CHS, and try to toggle through "ACPI (or SATA mode)" vs. "IDE >> (or PATA compatibility)" vs. "enhanced (often meaning some form of >> BIOS RAID is enabled)" and see whether any of them work. >> >> If that doesn't do the trick, you could wander through your BIOS >> menus, and disable all of the non-essential stuff like parallel & >> serial ports, second NIC, or anything else which is not needed, and >> see whether that does any good...but that's getting into stuff which >> is less likely to make a difference. > > > The code that's being run does the following: > > 1. Finds all network interfaces. > 2. Finds all CDROM, floppy, disk and network devices that might be > needed for installation. > 3. Finds all partitions on the disks to register. > > I'd guess it's hanging on a syscall somewhere, but there really isn't > much debugging output in usr.sbin/sysinstall/devices.c to know where, > unless the kernel has printed some errors to the debug console. > > -- > Bruce Cran > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > This is why I suspected #3 - maybe querying the disk and hanging because of bad disk? Hard to say without debug logs. -- randi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 15:02:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F221065673 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:02:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411EF8FC22 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:01:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so3561119gxk.13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:01:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=dbaMhKhfGUn6HeQdqRQJcUUlcZN65DIMg5L+UMwMAsY=; b=qB4EsSt7+4q98Wa/4uhc7BzOK5iodvYYTlTjvGDXEzM83wEXe5vJT9FT1uDNekHyDi kysvzaNXwzObp1cFA6eKA0lhNq7MuBkAaANWF2lqPTDcB/L6XrhSN6ITrCykddH+fOC8 7sDYF4YF0/eGJLXHLh+GNVXvK/HP1bMG/Z34o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Fw3wHiu6Sou5pOuvmEsYZwKmCZnwb+9cdnw5TRnYIAMyGdIxZEi6Upvc/K5oJoXHAr qTxD5i7dD+NGKQhKbVeq4eLPYy+J2Ovie2CMsBKFAr4qpIF0Qc1Tv0C2dFLOVfGTJTju G1LNXt5pyFpYZSWRyygnofU2y6i2qH+3zTJ/Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.133.131 with SMTP id 3mr512816hbv.133.1279638118790; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.160.201 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:01:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100720130248.00003a47@unknown> References: <20100720130248.00003a47@unknown> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:01:58 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Bruce Cran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Dtrace ustack status X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:02:00 -0000 On 20 July 2010 13:02, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:03:09 +0100 > krad wrote: > > > Does anyone know what the status of dtrace being able to trace > > userland processes is? I see there are few patches out there but am > > unsure of the reliability etc. > > http://freebsdfoundation.blogspot.com/2010/06/dtrace-userland-project.html > > -- > Bruce Cran > Thanks thats good however its a letter of intent only. Does anyone know how its going, and is it likely to be delivered? September sounds like a tight time line to me as from what ive read its a fairly complex task. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 16:02:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07428106567D for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:02:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6DA8FC08 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:02:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so3226717fxm.13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:02:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=ii+SGpKNt8s7PJHfepYNGkQR3wPW8Z3aBbcw7XrhnI8=; b=vk6iMQTnrT62RCJ9SnvsWzOSLiXgmf8gato7AR6MPSEe1/sxwW2Vi462mtzhL/W3jn qOw/fV9hJKQAGP/Kp4sPdbKNKCTga4izB0fMdkDu/reCgo/Uz0qEmpQ6MEUVe4Lkpntx RLjH2jZj3mGknTBGUx6sB+B6BY5W8BNstQbUE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=UJCzsrCRTp7NipaPCNea1YtRsCMb23wp723HxE2h/88LZZbSFaXKyeZqvit8SwYp5z u0RqttuY2abFp7fYzsV7hk7n4UDIFq7qnUeBN/+40fhsMpmTmfMbn2DLZ1D41QM2Z/cn fhUkdq7WA06nNxBTOVDMhXFjv02b71xeq1FVk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.169.80 with SMTP id m58mr5542207wel.79.1279641729722; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.229.202 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:02:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C447F7F.6020308@locolomo.org> References: <4C3F91CF.5090206@locolomo.org> <4C419944.8030702@locolomo.org> <4C447F7F.6020308@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:02:09 -0400 Message-ID: From: alexus To: Erik Norgaard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipnat.conf - map and rdr won't work! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: google@alexus.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:02:13 -0000 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Erik Norgaard wrote: > On 19/07/10 16.46, alexus wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Use tcpdump, you should see if your rdr/map rules work as expected. >>>>> Also, >>>>> pfctl -ss and similar. >>>> >>>> i don't know how to use tcpdump, can you provide exact syntax so i can >>>> run >>>> it? >>> >>> The man-page is excelent. >> >> tried that, unfortunately not really sure what am i doing.. still > > Can't help you more, really, you need to investigate where packets are > dropped, tcpdump is a great tool and the man-page is excelent, can't explain > it better, if you don't like tcpdump then use any other packet sniffing tool > at hand, snort for example. ipmon: 20/07/2010 10:22:00.123106 @2 NAT:RDR 172.16.172.16,22 <- -> 64.52.58.58,22 [69.10.67.106,6346 PR tcp] 20/07/2010 10:26:00.340436 @2 NAT:EXPIRE 172.16.172.16,22 <- -> 64.52.58.58,22 [69.10.67.106,6346 PR tcp] Pkts 11/0 Bytes 640/0 tcpdump: tcpdump: listening on fxp0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes 11:40:07.366519 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 48580, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 64) 69.10.67.106.9408 > 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum 0xc05d (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 11:40:08.346575 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 19079, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 64) 69.10.67.106.9408 > 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum 0xc054 (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 11:40:09.102442 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 28097, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 64) 69.10.67.106.9408 > 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum 0xc04a (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 11:40:10.108089 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 28130, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 64) 69.10.67.106.9408 > 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum 0xc040 (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 11:40:11.104669 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 27900, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 64) 69.10.67.106.9408 > 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum 0xc036 (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 11:40:12.110396 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 56214, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 64) 69.10.67.106.9408 > 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum 0xc02c (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 11:40:14.105642 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 41429, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 64) 69.10.67.106.9408 > 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum 0xc018 (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 11:40:18.114148 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 30423, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 48) 69.10.67.106.9408 > 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum 0x8b0d (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 11:40:21.899739 arp who-has 64.52.58.36 tell 64.52.58.33 11:40:24.830499 arp who-has 64.52.58.36 tell 64.52.58.33 11:40:26.125568 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 25515, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 48) 69.10.67.106.9408 > 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum 0x8b0d (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 11:40:42.157443 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 18773, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 48) 69.10.67.106.9408 > 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum 0x8b0d (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 11:41:14.193555 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 42007, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 48) 69.10.67.106.9408 > 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum 0x8b0d (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 ^C180 packets captured 182 packets received by filter 0 packets dropped by kernel > Do packets can get dropped because of your firewall default policy? For > stealth it may be set to simply drop packets which result in a connection > time-out rather than send a TCP-RST. su-3.2# grep ^firewall /etc/rc.conf firewall_enable="YES" firewall_type="open" su-3.2# ipfw show 00100 5478 792380 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00200 0 0 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 00300 0 0 deny ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any 65000 869903 554820708 allow ip from any to any 65535 0 0 deny ip from any to any su-3.2# grep ^ip /etc/rc.conf ipfilter_enable="YES" ipmon_enable="YES" ipnat_enable="YES" ipnat_flags="-d" su-3.2# i even did this su-3.2# /etc/rc.d/ipfw stop net.inet.ip.fw.enable: 1 -> 0 su-3.2# > Do packets get dropped because of nat on the way in? or on the way out? i tried disabling map rule and leave only rdr, that didn't help > What if you just disable ipnat? What if you flush the firewall rules? > (disconnect from the Internet first) if i disable ipnat then map or rdr wont work as they simply disabled i disabled ipfw, and i dont have any rules inside of ipfilter > Do you have any logs in the jail that indicate that the first packet is > actually received? Do your firewall log connections? If not, see how you can > enable logs on all rules to get more information. nothing gets to jail there for no logs inside of jail > Can you connect out from the jail, to external servers? only to the jail > hosting server? Did the jail's ssh log tell anything? no i can not connect out from jail, as map doesn't work either nothing gets to > You wrote you can connect with ssh from the hosting server to the jail, but > it took a long time, did you investigate this? Is there some DNS issue that > times out and causes the connection to fail? > > Can you ping your jail? Can you ping out? Default route is configured? i can ping my jail within host environment once again nothing within jail works as map (nat) isn't working default router isn't configured in rc.conf (inside of jail) as per jail's man page its not needed it was working fine before without it > There are tons of tests you can do to figure out what's failing. > > BR, Erik > -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 16:15:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFB4106567E for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:15:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1768FC18 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.local (business-088-079-092-162.static.arcor-ip.net [88.79.92.162]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6DD2F1C0871 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:15:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C45CB8A.9090306@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:15:06 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> In-Reply-To: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:15:12 -0000 On 20/07/10 15.26, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > > I am a consultant and was retained by my client to setup qmail or exim > on a VPS running 8.0-STABLE (i386). After setting up the DNS (A record > and MX record) we have been unable to send or receive mail. The client > has/had a working script for installing qmail on 7.1-STABLE but it > seems to not work on 8.0-STABLE. They are using the same VPS provider > who this 7.1-STABLE install script worked under. I have tried > everything I can think of to make it work including asking obvious > questions on -questions@. First, as everybody else: If you are not satisfied with the default sendmail the most popular alternative seems to be postfix, it will probably be much easier for you to get help with postfix should the problem turn out to be the mail configuration. When you modify your DNS it may take a while before the changes propagate, depending on the TTL setting in your zone configuration. You can check if the mail server is running and can deliver mail locally by, on the mail server, do $ telnet localhost 25 You can then type in manually the smtp commands, see rfc 2821. If you can, then it may be a dns problem. Next, can you send out? You may well be able to send out while you can't receive mail from external servers for local delivery. If this is the case, either your DNS is wrong or the changes has not yet propagated. If you can't, check the error messages, if there is some dns related error look in /etc/resolv.conf to see if you use the right dns server, do some dns queries to check that it works. If you use your own dns server, check the named.conf and verify any forwarders entries. If you can't receive mail from external servers for local delivery, but local delivery works - locally. Try from a different host to telnet to your mail server using the ip address, $ telnet mail-server-ip 25 If this works, maybe your dns changes has not yet propagated. If more time than the TTL has passed and your dns does not resolve correctly, check that you updated the serial number in the zone file, it must be incremented every time you make a modification or the changes won't propagate to dns slaves. If you can't connect, maybe you have a firewall issue. This I think should get you started trouble shooting. > I informed the client that the task is likely beyond me capabilities > but I would help recruit someone who would be able to do it at a > reasonable fee paid to them If you found my advice useful, please donate a reasonable fee to the FreeBSD project, I am still endepted for the great effort of all the people involved in the project. BR, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 16:32:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F98F1065677 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218BB8FC0A for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:32:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.68]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:15:36 -0700 Message-ID: <4C45CBA3.9020800@comclark.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:15:31 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: google@alexus.org References: <4C3F91CF.5090206@locolomo.org> <4C419944.8030702@locolomo.org> <4C447F7F.6020308@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2010 16:15:37.0065 (UTC) FILETIME=[C9DB4590:01CB2826] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipnat.conf - map and rdr won't work! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:32:37 -0000 alexus wrote: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Erik Norgaard wrote: >> On 19/07/10 16.46, alexus wrote: >>>>>> Use tcpdump, you should see if your rdr/map rules work as expected. >>>>>> Also, >>>>>> pfctl -ss and similar. >>>>> i don't know how to use tcpdump, can you provide exact syntax so i can >>>>> run >>>>> it? >>>> The man-page is excelent. >>> tried that, unfortunately not really sure what am i doing.. still >> Can't help you more, really, you need to investigate where packets are >> dropped, tcpdump is a great tool and the man-page is excelent, can't explain >> it better, if you don't like tcpdump then use any other packet sniffing tool >> at hand, snort for example. > > ipmon: > > 20/07/2010 10:22:00.123106 @2 NAT:RDR 172.16.172.16,22 <- -> > 64.52.58.58,22 [69.10.67.106,6346 PR tcp] > 20/07/2010 10:26:00.340436 @2 NAT:EXPIRE 172.16.172.16,22 <- -> > 64.52.58.58,22 [69.10.67.106,6346 PR tcp] Pkts 11/0 Bytes 640/0 > > tcpdump: > > tcpdump: listening on fxp0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes > 11:40:07.366519 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 48580, offset 0, flags [DF], > proto TCP (6), length 64) 69.10.67.106.9408 > 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum > 0xc05d (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 1380,nop,wscale 3,nop,nop,timestamp 91387932 0,sackOK,eol> > 11:40:08.346575 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 19079, offset 0, flags [DF], > proto TCP (6), length 64) 69.10.67.106.9408 > 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum > 0xc054 (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 1380,nop,wscale 3,nop,nop,timestamp 91387941 0,sackOK,eol> > 11:40:09.102442 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 28097, offset 0, flags [DF], > proto TCP (6), length 64) 69.10.67.106.9408 > 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum > 0xc04a (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 1380,nop,wscale 3,nop,nop,timestamp 91387951 0,sackOK,eol> > 11:40:10.108089 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 28130, offset 0, flags [DF], > proto TCP (6), length 64) 69.10.67.106.9408 > 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum > 0xc040 (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 1380,nop,wscale 3,nop,nop,timestamp 91387961 0,sackOK,eol> > 11:40:11.104669 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 27900, offset 0, flags [DF], > proto TCP (6), length 64) 69.10.67.106.9408 > 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum > 0xc036 (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 1380,nop,wscale 3,nop,nop,timestamp 91387971 0,sackOK,eol> > 11:40:12.110396 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 56214, offset 0, flags [DF], > proto TCP (6), length 64) 69.10.67.106.9408 > 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum > 0xc02c (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 1380,nop,wscale 3,nop,nop,timestamp 91387981 0,sackOK,eol> > 11:40:14.105642 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 41429, offset 0, flags [DF], > proto TCP (6), length 64) 69.10.67.106.9408 > 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum > 0xc018 (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 1380,nop,wscale 3,nop,nop,timestamp 91388001 0,sackOK,eol> > 11:40:18.114148 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 30423, offset 0, flags [DF], > proto TCP (6), length 48) 69.10.67.106.9408 > 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum > 0x8b0d (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 1380,sackOK,eol> > 11:40:21.899739 arp who-has 64.52.58.36 tell 64.52.58.33 > 11:40:24.830499 arp who-has 64.52.58.36 tell 64.52.58.33 > 11:40:26.125568 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 25515, offset 0, flags [DF], > proto TCP (6), length 48) 69.10.67.106.9408 > 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum > 0x8b0d (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 1380,sackOK,eol> > 11:40:42.157443 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 18773, offset 0, flags [DF], > proto TCP (6), length 48) 69.10.67.106.9408 > 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum > 0x8b0d (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 1380,sackOK,eol> > 11:41:14.193555 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 42007, offset 0, flags [DF], > proto TCP (6), length 48) 69.10.67.106.9408 > 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum > 0x8b0d (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 1380,sackOK,eol> > ^C180 packets captured > 182 packets received by filter > 0 packets dropped by kernel > >> Do packets can get dropped because of your firewall default policy? For >> stealth it may be set to simply drop packets which result in a connection >> time-out rather than send a TCP-RST. > > su-3.2# grep ^firewall /etc/rc.conf > firewall_enable="YES" > firewall_type="open" > su-3.2# ipfw show > 00100 5478 792380 allow ip from any to any via lo0 > 00200 0 0 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 > 00300 0 0 deny ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any > 65000 869903 554820708 allow ip from any to any > 65535 0 0 deny ip from any to any > su-3.2# grep ^ip /etc/rc.conf > ipfilter_enable="YES" > ipmon_enable="YES" > ipnat_enable="YES" > ipnat_flags="-d" > su-3.2# > > i even did this > > su-3.2# /etc/rc.d/ipfw stop > net.inet.ip.fw.enable: 1 -> 0 > su-3.2# > >> Do packets get dropped because of nat on the way in? or on the way out? > > i tried disabling map rule and leave only rdr, that didn't help > >> What if you just disable ipnat? What if you flush the firewall rules? >> (disconnect from the Internet first) > > if i disable ipnat then map or rdr wont work as they simply disabled > > i disabled ipfw, and i dont have any rules inside of ipfilter > >> Do you have any logs in the jail that indicate that the first packet is >> actually received? Do your firewall log connections? If not, see how you can >> enable logs on all rules to get more information. > > nothing gets to jail there for no logs inside of jail > >> Can you connect out from the jail, to external servers? only to the jail >> hosting server? Did the jail's ssh log tell anything? > > no i can not connect out from jail, as map doesn't work either > nothing gets to > >> You wrote you can connect with ssh from the hosting server to the jail, but >> it took a long time, did you investigate this? Is there some DNS issue that >> times out and causes the connection to fail? >> >> Can you ping your jail? Can you ping out? Default route is configured? > > i can ping my jail within host environment > once again nothing within jail works as map (nat) isn't working > > default router isn't configured in rc.conf (inside of jail) as per > jail's man page its not needed > it was working fine before without it > >> There are tons of tests you can do to figure out what's failing. >> >> BR, Erik >> > > > su-3.2# grep ^firewall /etc/rc.conf firewall_enable="YES" firewall_type="open" su-3.2# grep ^ip /etc/rc.conf ipfilter_enable="YES" ipmon_enable="YES" ipnat_enable="YES" ipnat_flags="-d" This is not good. You are running 2 different firewalls at the same time. comment out firewall_enable="YES" firewall_type="open" and reboot your system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 16:37:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73BC6106567B for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:37:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41648FC17 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:37:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so3268668fxm.13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:37:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lMtiu3ZnVkuPmKthBQR+F7FvyDl7uBMlSylT3SDvmTw=; b=YhAuaaAdslANPtHvztC4Isb8p7KuhtUjd92S57VIg+uro0nzNxFoWVQK0qsRJ0M5/V CrwTAtrkYWDAp2WX64n0Hq9WkRUEQceOqSb3HRqjv2TZTCiM6WINEZbSnHMg4kp9mGoq uvt0lTDMc0jvjN/SYtQgkKLlf4DVPbXdN//0c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lFxA19DqaU/fhr8rScieVWg0tE+GwGJWfKvDcfT8CIiLoIq8yZdpYaWop3prNR5YQu 5RJu5Bkf+MLSFRw7HDY82ocrD9vyL3/MGMg7G9cvd/7AAcUyhQzZ5+GK3J3N2pRQ2P1p ZlOtcNA5wSSRV8UcDUhwYIRYIMujTDOkfU6KY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.187.21 with SMTP id x21mr4879861wem.51.1279643837079; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.229.202 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:37:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C45CBA3.9020800@comclark.com> References: <4C3F91CF.5090206@locolomo.org> <4C419944.8030702@locolomo.org> <4C447F7F.6020308@locolomo.org> <4C45CBA3.9020800@comclark.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:37:17 -0400 Message-ID: From: alexus To: Aiza Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipnat.conf - map and rdr won't work! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: google@alexus.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:37:22 -0000 > =C2=A0su-3.2# grep ^firewall /etc/rc.conf > =C2=A0firewall_enable=3D"YES" > =C2=A0firewall_type=3D"open" > > =C2=A0su-3.2# grep ^ip /etc/rc.conf > =C2=A0ipfilter_enable=3D"YES" > =C2=A0ipmon_enable=3D"YES" > =C2=A0ipnat_enable=3D"YES" > =C2=A0ipnat_flags=3D"-d" > > This is not good. > You are running 2 different firewalls at the same time. > comment out > firewall_enable=3D"YES" > firewall_type=3D"open" > > and reboot your system. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > do you know that for a fact or you just guessing?? because first of all it worked before just fine with 2 firewalls second i disabled firewall, so firewall is no longer an issue third i have another system just like that that runs 2 firewall and everything working just fine! if you dont know the answer there is no need to throw just any answer as its pretty clear that this isn't the right answer --=20 http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 16:51:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70DAA1065670 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:51:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040CC8FC0A for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so605475wwe.31 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:51:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=181LgyCMydW9b2IvcEicwTsLHwhygbrszv4cZTpUGLc=; b=U+8/FpENCt+GcxpUwUKloYfSdBwSgnIIU2Zwh8y6Y0L4hcb0m5jvzINx9B9zVzG9Uy ozLV1HXegCmUdsq01BqTUcSQYwsf4LLDebV42KTmtONfY8x0PlZgCHPMlfZIwVcYizTE OrjZwLNFk3P1mFLZIwmS3RXGjZal+JJR/XyNY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gcx27sv2C/Z8flle/HLx3gsZ2Ff/bH67ebRNOyPSDrhWdwsbOmTMp/w8Tq+U7f5gSE EgMz8a5ffOzNQJVayQ5BBWs6yPEJIDsfHtOnl/pWxGyJup+pcVPAH/piSOmUVZ/38EVG WeHDlY+3ilTW9GpSXPFx72Ba7VrL3I4qJXPYI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.143.12 with SMTP id s12mr5775056wbu.125.1279644710887; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.12.209 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:51:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:51:50 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kde-freebsd@kde.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: startkde: Could not start kdeinit4. Check your installation. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:51:52 -0000 hello fellas, can no one give me any ideas ? I reinstalled libthr.so.3 in the meantime but with no effect. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 16:54:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB181065673 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:54:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edflecko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486208FC1D for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:54:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so7386033iwn.13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:54:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Cz45gbElU4RtETMTeMYBbN8/YzOEYJ4ZA/s9Z8Y4knI=; b=iJ0NYTwr/h8peRd6XbiXFfUT7Yfzm+huO1on2wgDWytbneRb0SVv0v5JtV1mnuq5sw /pJ6N8dwQpaqDNRaRqXm034V4ATWvImXfALDvx6ARziFyGLZShxrpBlohYHyXwE5J79x JTZMSZzxrrjChKMfD9kYvQxRnGZcp8hhZFpSc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=aBajkUI2h7PNm72IBbVaUx2ILnjVD2t5KnBALDQP4ocZ12qLcrFgrHC8ctrFRcIXtU 68ThCHQE30nqWfWQq9HrsPM4P8rvBn+IZfFpgUaKBhMGo6m83dAabZ1yet42Y01dO65A R4OUNo3aukTBUJruSAydZVVYQ369Mn9cvFpjk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.39.195 with SMTP id h3mr7717137ibe.88.1279644847507; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.118.98 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:54:07 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ed Flecko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Recommend ezjail.conf settings? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:54:08 -0000 Hi folks, I'm looking at the ezjail.conf file, and it seems like SOME of the settings might be mandatory, but they're all commented out. For example, the: # ezjail_mount_enable="YES" # ezjail_devfs_enable="YES" # ezjail_devfs_ruleset="devfsrules_jail" # ezjail_procfs_enable="YES" # ezjail_fdescfs_enable="YES" should be uncommented because they're "Default options for newly created jails", right? Are there any of the other settings I might want to consider enabling? Thank you, Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 16:57:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01DD1065686 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:57:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332AD8FC27 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:57:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.local (business-088-079-092-162.static.arcor-ip.net [88.79.92.162]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C3E7B1C0871; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:57:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C45D57F.2020506@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:57:35 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: google@alexus.org References: <4C3F91CF.5090206@locolomo.org> <4C419944.8030702@locolomo.org> <4C447F7F.6020308@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: alexus , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipnat.conf - map and rdr won't work! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:57:41 -0000 On 20/07/10 18.02, alexus wrote: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Erik Norgaard wrote: >> On 19/07/10 16.46, alexus wrote: >> Can't help you more, really, you need to investigate where packets are >> dropped, tcpdump is a great tool and the man-page is excelent, can't explain >> it better, if you don't like tcpdump then use any other packet sniffing tool >> at hand, snort for example. > > ipmon: > > 20/07/2010 10:22:00.123106 @2 NAT:RDR 172.16.172.16,22<- -> > 64.52.58.58,22 [69.10.67.106,6346 PR tcp] > 20/07/2010 10:26:00.340436 @2 NAT:EXPIRE 172.16.172.16,22<- -> > 64.52.58.58,22 [69.10.67.106,6346 PR tcp] Pkts 11/0 Bytes 640/0 > > tcpdump: > > tcpdump: listening on fxp0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes > 11:40:07.366519 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 48580, offset 0, flags [DF], > proto TCP (6), length 64) 69.10.67.106.9408> 64.52.58.58.22: S, cksum > 0xc05d (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535 1380,nop,wscale 3,nop,nop,timestamp 91387932 0,sackOK,eol> > 0 packets dropped by kernel What tcpdump options did you use, on what interface? where did you run it? on the hosting system or within the jail? >> Do packets can get dropped because of your firewall default policy? For >> stealth it may be set to simply drop packets which result in a connection >> time-out rather than send a TCP-RST. > i disabled ipfw, and i dont have any rules inside of ipfilter You do have the default rule. IIRC this is set when you compile ipfilter, it can be set to either block or pass. If you don't remember what it was, then you can override it by configuring two rules: pass in quick all pass out quick all >> Do you have any logs in the jail that indicate that the first packet is >> actually received? Do your firewall log connections? If not, see how you can >> enable logs on all rules to get more information. > > nothing gets to jail there for no logs inside of jail Ok, but you should be able to configure log on your firewall/nat rules. IIRC ipfilter does not permit log statement on nat rules, you can switch to packet filter it has almost same syntax and permits log. >> Can you connect out from the jail, to external servers? only to the jail >> hosting server? Did the jail's ssh log tell anything? > > no i can not connect out from jail, as map doesn't work either > nothing gets to Nor to the hosting system? >> You wrote you can connect with ssh from the hosting server to the jail, but >> it took a long time, did you investigate this? Is there some DNS issue that >> times out and causes the connection to fail? what about that "long time" I recall you mentioned? >> Can you ping your jail? Can you ping out? Default route is configured? > > i can ping my jail within host environment > once again nothing within jail works as map (nat) isn't working Are you sure you're actually ping'ing the jail? IIRC from your previous mail you have configured the jail IP both on the host environment and in the jail. So I suppose that from your host environment you can ssh into the jail? Did ssh start up, netstat -l? From the jail, can you ping the host environment? > default router isn't configured in rc.conf (inside of jail) as per > jail's man page its not needed > it was working fine before without it > >> There are tons of tests you can do to figure out what's failing. Do you have additional external ip addresses available? Last time I played around with jail, I had this: ifconfig_vr1="inet 172.16.0.1/23" # Hosting system ifconfig_vr1_alias0="inet 172.16.0.2/32" # Jail .... jail_test_ip="172.16.0.2" .... So that would create an alias for for the jail and bypasss the need for rdr. BR, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 17:04:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33504106564A for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66B58FC19 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.local (business-088-079-092-162.static.arcor-ip.net [88.79.92.162]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 32CE51C0871 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:03:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C45D6FC.5010601@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:03:56 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C3F91CF.5090206@locolomo.org> <4C419944.8030702@locolomo.org> <4C447F7F.6020308@locolomo.org> <4C45CBA3.9020800@comclark.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ipnat.conf - map and rdr won't work! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:04:00 -0000 On 20/07/10 18.37, alexus wrote: >> You are running 2 different firewalls at the same time. >> comment out >> firewall_enable="YES" >> firewall_type="open" >> >> and reboot your system. > do you know that for a fact or you just guessing?? > > because first of all it worked before just fine with 2 firewalls > second i disabled firewall, so firewall is no longer an issue > third i have another system just like that that runs 2 firewall and > everything working just fine! > > if you dont know the answer there is no need to throw just any answer > as its pretty clear that this isn't the right answer Regardless of your previous experience, it is a bad idea to have two different firewalls configured and enabled at the same time. It provides no additional security and makes debugging a mess. Have you considered the possibility of both ipfw and ipfilter doing both filtering and nat? Another thing, I think I've mentioned before, you may have to reload firewall/nat rules after the jail starts. BR, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 17:17:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335CA1065680 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D8E8FC19 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:17:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (h-74-2-96-2.chcgilgm.static.covad.net [74.2.96.2]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 28E17284AD; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:17:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C45DA15.7090406@cyberleo.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:17:09 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100710 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Mueller References: <4c455351.iveHHylYsmZKh9Xe%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: <4c455351.iveHHylYsmZKh9Xe%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:17:12 -0000 On 07/20/2010 02:42 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > I've wondered why FreeBSD installation sets (base, etc, games, comp, man and others) are broken into pieces of 1392 KB each as opposed to each installation set in a single .tgz or .tbz (base.tgz, etc.tgz, comp.tgz, and others: that's how NetBSD does it). NetBSD installation CD also offers a utility shell (sh). With floppy disks and floppy drives showing their age, I wouldn't be able to get enough good floppy disks together to install FreeBSD from floppies... If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say it's because not everyone who uses FreeBSD is on a broadband connection, and a 56MB download (just for base.??) is a bit too large to fetch in a single session, if for some reason you are unable to resume the transfer after interruption. But the floppy thing might be a good reason too. Especially since all you really need is one working floppy disk and two floppy-drive-equipped computers to do it. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 17:42:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13471065670 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:42:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD778FC20 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:42:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so7810761vws.13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.125.38 with SMTP id w38mr3597404vcr.49.1279647728550; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d24sm1680174vcs.46.2010.07.20.10.42.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9F6E1E5484D for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:42:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:42:05 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100720134205.3168f4f1@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4C452644.6060508@comclark.com> References: <4C452644.6060508@comclark.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: new jail utility is available. announcement. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:42:12 -0000 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:29:56 +0800 Aiza articulated: > This is a news announcement to inform people who have interest in jails, > that a new jail utility is available. > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/qjail/ > > Has a file suitable for the pkg_add command or the port make files can > be downloaded and a "make install" run. > > > Qjail [ q = quick ] is a 4th generation wrapper for the basic chroot > jail system that includes security and performance enhancements. Plus a > new level of "user friendliness" enhancements dealing with deploying > just a few jails or large jail environments consisting of 100's of > jails. Qjail requires no knowledge of the jail command usage. > > It uses "nullfs" for read-only system binaries, sharing one copy of > them with all the jails. > > Uses "mdconfig" to create sparse image jails. Sparse image jails > provide a method to limit the total disk space a jail can consume, > while only occupying disk space of the sum size of the files in > the image jail. > > Ability to assign ip address with their network device name, > so aliases are auto created on jail start and auto removed on jail stop. > > Ability to create "ZONE"s of identical qjail systems, each with > their own group of jails. > > Ability to designate a portion of the jail name as a group prefix so > the command being executed will apply to only those jail names > matching that prefix. > > Qjail reduces the complexities of small and large jail deployments to > the novice level. Qjail has a fully documented manpage written for easy > comprehension. Details are given to felicitate the use of qjail's > capabilities to the fullest extent possible. There presently does not exist a port for this, or at least I could not find one. Is someone going to create a port? -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Sadoequinecrophilia, n.: Beating a dead horse. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 17:48:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7691D1065674 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:48:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnejdl@ringofsaturn.com) Received: from tethys.ringofsaturn.com (tethys.ringofsaturn.com [71.252.219.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD5B8FC12 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:48:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ringofsaturn.com (tethys [71.252.219.43]) (authenticated bits=0) by tethys.ringofsaturn.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6KHLfjh079224; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:21:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rnejdl@ringofsaturn.com) Received: from mail.ringofsaturn.com ([71.252.219.43] helo=mail.ringofsaturn.com) with IPv4:25 by ASSP.nospam; 20 Jul 2010 12:21:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:21:36 -0500 From: Rusty Nejdl To: claudiu vasadi In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <047d11608dc68638fd9665167c55f2e2@ringofsaturn.com> X-Sender: rnejdl@ringofsaturn.com User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.4-trunk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: kde-freebsd@kde.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [kde-freebsd] startkde: Could not start kdeinit4. Check your installation. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:48:35 -0000 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:51:50 +0200, claudiu vasadi wrote: hello fellas, can no one give me any ideas ? I reinstalled libthr.so.3 in the meantime but with no effect. I got it last night and simply recompiling kdelibs was sufficient: sudo portupgrade -f kdelibs Rusty Nejdl http://networking.ringofsaturn.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 18:04:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331261065676 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:04:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86C28FC08 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:04:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so3356959fxm.13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:04:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8XFtLmhNroFmW25AA8VCBPdOP8Q/AWz1okuE4d4if8M=; b=w8HZh641doAcrWf1UEwWfQcaTlEtZgv7QyL9BLp4HatkEmL8w4an5FXGycxUsZh/+A qVeGly8kgDYSwoQKRrz+CytL3ytgr5ubfd3/NVyTKvWGvctRP23aS3Poab46spP0GcFq PONlFXoQzfSeT3YLLR5zgCCNPnttOmXrpunoI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EIXRty34yGqllE/yv0/6pBVVHsUjY8wozUmtHDqK39oiYr5PsoxRP0VOjTNQuX39Rr qlQOR6IZyfd+uBxHfsGgu8E9IFPPDeZvN2TKrCpJJbIG7Ws+sq/h0GjZWQNNwJA7TWHi caUnbIGWqRrlZjYtzgtU24GBVzx/7qpgizzQE= Received: by 10.223.109.2 with SMTP id h2mr4508382fap.95.1279649055356; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:04:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.183.211 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:03:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100720094609.02f88f0baryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> <20100720093328.4f1bd5d0@scorpio> <20100720094609.02f88f0baryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:03:55 +0300 Message-ID: To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:04:22 -0000 On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:33:28 -0400 > Jerry wrote: > >> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:26:44 -0400 >> Aryeh M. Friedman articulated: >> >> > I am a consultant and was retained by my client to setup qmail or >> > exim on a VPS running 8.0-STABLE (i386). After setting up the DNS >> > (A record and MX record) we have been unable to send or receive >> > mail. The client has/had a working script for installing qmail on >> > 7.1-STABLE but it seems to not work on 8.0-STABLE. They are using >> > the same VPS provider who this 7.1-STABLE install script worked >> > under. I have tried everything I can think of to make it work >> > including asking obvious questions on -questions@. >> > >> > I informed the client that the task is likely beyond me capabilities >> > but I would help recruit someone who would be able to do it at a >> > reasonable fee paid to them (I am acting as a no cost middle man on >> > this [I am helping the client for free since I was unable to get it >> > done]). >> > >> > Please send any ideas and/or offers to do the job >> >> I would seriously suggest that you consider installing Postfix. It is >> in the ports tree, is well maintained and works out of the box. The >> Postfix forum will be glad to give you any advice you need for setting >> up and securing your mail server. Qmail is no longer supported by its >> author and can be a nightmare to maintain. >> > > We had also tried sendmail and couldn't get that working either so I > suspect it is a general config issue not a MTA one. =C2=A0(I have set > sendmail up about 30 times in the past so I know a little bit about it) Exim is a very good choice. Forget the Postfix suggestions. It's Sendmail's brother:-) --=20 Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 -- Lucky Dube From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 18:05:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B1A106566C for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:05:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C63F8FC21 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o6KI5D8m047009; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:05:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o6KI5DUf047008; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:05:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:05:13 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Odhiambo Washington Message-ID: <20100720180513.GB46959@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> <20100720093328.4f1bd5d0@scorpio> <20100720094609.02f88f0baryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "Aryeh M. Friedman" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:05:20 -0000 On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 09:03:55PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman > wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:33:28 -0400 > > Jerry wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:26:44 -0400 > >> Aryeh M. Friedman articulated: > >> > >> > I am a consultant and was retained by my client to setup qmail or > >> > exim on a VPS running 8.0-STABLE (i386). After setting up the DNS > >> > (A record and MX record) we have been unable to send or receive > >> > mail. The client has/had a working script for installing qmail on > >> > 7.1-STABLE but it seems to not work on 8.0-STABLE. They are using > >> > the same VPS provider who this 7.1-STABLE install script worked > >> > under. I have tried everything I can think of to make it work > >> > including asking obvious questions on -questions@. > >> > > >> > I informed the client that the task is likely beyond me capabilities > >> > but I would help recruit someone who would be able to do it at a > >> > reasonable fee paid to them (I am acting as a no cost middle man on > >> > this [I am helping the client for free since I was unable to get it > >> > done]). > >> > > >> > Please send any ideas and/or offers to do the job > >> > >> I would seriously suggest that you consider installing Postfix. It is > >> in the ports tree, is well maintained and works out of the box. The > >> Postfix forum will be glad to give you any advice you need for setting > >> up and securing your mail server. Qmail is no longer supported by its > >> author and can be a nightmare to maintain. > >> > > > > We had also tried sendmail and couldn't get that working either so I > > suspect it is a general config issue not a MTA one.  (I have set > > sendmail up about 30 times in the past so I know a little bit about it) > > Exim is a very good choice. Forget the Postfix suggestions. It's > Sendmail's brother:-) Sendmail comes from a good family. ////jerry > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." >                -- Lucky Dube > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 18:07:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9508106564A for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:07:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4951E8FC0C for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:07:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so699465wwe.31 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:07:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aBsf1qwMRE4547uNKLSPeOvjpXJvfND7b1D8mav4UP0=; b=YlusNTCpk2U5B2quzeMi+b9GcRuaMnqzqYLn6+DLcr2wJ2w2mXONg1mPu0R1XOJiQJ cEgy0lRjzBK68tW/oS/k6NtkXSPjprL4josIApPbYHUvZojX7A4qffYfjCtqDEwORUhq UUg/YAkVu3xC6ntiru+Qh6kgk/gnsmocj1G0Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QlhjkhvQFBZP4ojJvAjjbdCu71McKT4Q9qH9DITiF/EZysB7+9bDUycjiwxvUAMsIJ gLbQkxgu63Ezx2Zee2aEOYI6vBO3wGLjSeZru5FLROHVfmNMazHydmE0tA946njqURk3 ybb2OCHx8pBzPAl2bRb9i/Z69fWc8b0EdK3e8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.135.65 with SMTP id m1mr5864976wbt.212.1279649274983; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.229.202 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:07:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C45D57F.2020506@locolomo.org> References: <4C3F91CF.5090206@locolomo.org> <4C419944.8030702@locolomo.org> <4C447F7F.6020308@locolomo.org> <4C45D57F.2020506@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:07:54 -0400 Message-ID: From: alexus To: Erik Norgaard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipnat.conf - map and rdr won't work! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: google@alexus.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:07:57 -0000 On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Erik Norgaard wro= te: > On 20/07/10 18.02, alexus wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Erik Norgaard >> =C2=A0wrote: >>> >>> On 19/07/10 16.46, alexus wrote: >>> Can't help you more, really, you need to investigate where packets are >>> dropped, tcpdump is a great tool and the man-page is excelent, can't >>> explain >>> it better, if you don't like tcpdump then use any other packet sniffing >>> tool >>> at hand, snort for example. >> >> ipmon: >> >> 20/07/2010 10:22:00.123106 @2 NAT:RDR 172.16.172.16,22<- -> >> 64.52.58.58,22 [69.10.67.106,6346 PR tcp] >> 20/07/2010 10:26:00.340436 @2 NAT:EXPIRE 172.16.172.16,22<- -> >> 64.52.58.58,22 [69.10.67.106,6346 PR tcp] Pkts 11/0 Bytes 640/0 >> >> tcpdump: >> >> tcpdump: listening on fxp0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 >> bytes >> 11:40:07.366519 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 49, id 48580, offset 0, flags [DF], >> proto TCP (6), length 64) 69.10.67.106.9408> =C2=A064.52.58.58.22: S, ck= sum >> 0xc05d (correct), 208454974:208454974(0) win 65535> 1380,nop,wscale 3,nop,nop,timestamp 91387932 0,sackOK,eol> >> 0 packets dropped by kernel > > What tcpdump options did you use, on what interface? where did you run it= ? > on the hosting system or within the jail? 'tcpdump -n -i fxp0 -vv' was run on host fxp0 is a public interface >>> Do packets can get dropped because of your firewall default policy? For >>> stealth it may be set to simply drop packets which result in a connecti= on >>> time-out rather than send a TCP-RST. > >> i disabled ipfw, and i dont have any rules inside of ipfilter > > You do have the default rule. IIRC this is set when you compile ipfilter,= it > can be set to either block or pass. the main reason why i have ipfilter is because it requires by ipnat > If you don't remember what it was, then you can override it by configurin= g > two rules: > > pass in quick all > pass out quick all done su-3.2# cat /etc/ipf.rules | grep -v ^# pass in quick all pass out quick all su-3.2# >>> Do you have any logs in the jail that indicate that the first packet is >>> actually received? Do your firewall log connections? If not, see how yo= u >>> can >>> enable logs on all rules to get more information. >> >> nothing gets to jail there for no logs inside of jail > > Ok, but you should be able to configure log on your firewall/nat rules. I= IRC > ipfilter does not permit log statement on nat rules, you can switch to > packet filter it has almost same syntax and permits log. > plan b is to run natd, but i'd rather run ipnat especially that ipnat used to work before no problem! >>> Can you connect out from the jail, to external servers? only to the jai= l >>> hosting server? Did the jail's ssh log tell anything? >> >> no i can not connect out from jail, as map doesn't work either >> nothing gets to > > Nor to the hosting system? > i'm able to ssh out from jail to a host system as this local, no "map" (nat) is needed for this connection >>> You wrote you can connect with ssh from the hosting server to the jail, >>> but >>> it took a long time, did you investigate this? Is there some DNS issue >>> that >>> times out and causes the connection to fail? > > what about that "long time" I recall you mentioned? my guess it's trying to do dns reverse look up and since map (nat) doesn't work it takes long time back in the days when nat was working, sshing it didn't take long time at a= ll >>> Can you ping your jail? Can you ping out? Default route is configured? >> >> i can ping my jail within host environment >> once again nothing within jail works as map (nat) isn't working > > Are you sure you're actually ping'ing the jail? IIRC from your previous m= ail > you have configured the jail IP both on the host environment and in the > jail. su-3.2# ping -c1 lama PING lama (172.16.172.16): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 172.16.172.16: icmp_seq=3D0 ttl=3D64 time=3D0.075 ms --- lama ping statistics --- 1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev =3D 0.075/0.075/0.075/0.000 ms su-3.2# ip address tells me that this is in fact jail's IP > So I suppose that from your host environment you can ssh into the jail? D= id > ssh start up, netstat -l? From the jail, can you ping the host environmen= t? su-3.2# jls JID IP Address Hostname Path 1 172.16.172.16 lama /usr/jail/lama su-3.2# jexec 1 /etc/rc.d/sshd status sshd is running as pid 1085. su-3.2# ps -p 1085 PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 1085 ?? IsJ 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/sshd su-3.2# >> default router isn't configured in rc.conf (inside of jail) as per >> jail's man page its not needed >> it was working fine before without it >> >>> There are tons of tests you can do to figure out what's failing. > > Do you have additional external ip addresses available? unfortunately no, if i had them i wouldn't need to do "map" nor "rdr" > Last time I played around with jail, I had this: > > ifconfig_vr1=3D"inet 172.16.0.1/23" =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # Hosting= system > ifconfig_vr1_alias0=3D"inet 172.16.0.2/32" =C2=A0# Jail > .... > jail_test_ip=3D"172.16.0.2" > .... > > So that would create an alias for for the jail and bypasss the need for r= dr. > > BR, Erik > i know, i can run it that IP address as an alias on public interface, but we on purpose added another NIC to be private NIC. --=20 http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 18:10:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA45B1065673 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADE88FC15 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:10:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so702980wwe.31 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:10:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=jZ5PmLg0Crvoto/1GjrLM6Mo+W2rQUdCLRjyRqrf/X0=; b=LmP8Ti5kg5+eMUzCjyn2cI5scTxzi1kW+/2LxcyQGlTk+FuMlc0K+P024PwHGOurra WNhX1O7lfh8nWeuNccOypypTX4fHpVIljtKdIs79kW9O4GOJ0vnKPUUT6aR9KH8kQ6qf 9G1r1lMOT7yZM4CbrzBpCSnl3WffpTOUZLp0s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=u3ER2O0VEjQcxvUxBYkQvcuQpkURIhh9KyGrVHS1HpnoMaaxNnBiBUhv346m1HsQ9s m9R0rectkjFllIH66ShqYM66PW3x153DkUL6y7dZvpHZCY2pnm/3CMLnCbke59zGR2Jv IfvDKyn972cWOj95RXYBueGjwKqoKE5GqaszA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.129.84 with SMTP id n20mr5925682wbs.61.1279649445198; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.229.202 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:10:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C45D6FC.5010601@locolomo.org> References: <4C3F91CF.5090206@locolomo.org> <4C419944.8030702@locolomo.org> <4C447F7F.6020308@locolomo.org> <4C45CBA3.9020800@comclark.com> <4C45D6FC.5010601@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:10:44 -0400 Message-ID: From: alexus To: Erik Norgaard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipnat.conf - map and rdr won't work! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: google@alexus.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:10:47 -0000 On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Erik Norgaard wrote: > On 20/07/10 18.37, alexus wrote: > >>> You are running 2 different firewalls at the same time. >>> comment out >>> firewall_enable="YES" >>> firewall_type="open" >>> >>> and reboot your system. >> >> do you know that for a fact or you just guessing?? >> >> because first of all it worked before just fine with 2 firewalls >> second i disabled firewall, so firewall is no longer an issue >> third i have another system just like that that runs 2 firewall and >> everything working just fine! >> >> if you dont know the answer there is no need to throw just any answer >> as its pretty clear that this isn't the right answer > > Regardless of your previous experience, it is a bad idea to have two > different firewalls configured and enabled at the same time. It provides no > additional security and makes debugging a mess. that's why i disabled ipfw for now, as it's only used for traffic shapping and ipfilter used for filtering and it's part of ipnat. > Have you considered the possibility of both ipfw and ipfilter doing both > filtering and nat? not according to ipfw show, it's as open as it gets. su-3.2# ipfw show 00100 2894 283660 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00200 0 0 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 00300 0 0 deny ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any 65000 56006 24726087 allow ip from any to any 65535 0 0 deny ip from any to any su-3.2# > Another thing, I think I've mentioned before, you may have to reload > firewall/nat rules after the jail starts. i tried that but that didn't really solve anything > BR, Erik > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 18:16:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D079310657A9 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:16:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6948FC1F for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:16:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.68]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:16:27 -0700 Message-ID: <4C45E7EA.7090403@comclark.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:16:10 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: google@alexus.org References: <4C3F91CF.5090206@locolomo.org> <4C419944.8030702@locolomo.org> <4C447F7F.6020308@locolomo.org> <4C45CBA3.9020800@comclark.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2010 18:16:27.0809 (UTC) FILETIME=[ABA30110:01CB2837] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipnat.conf - map and rdr won't work! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:16:39 -0000 alexus wrote: >> su-3.2# grep ^firewall /etc/rc.conf >> firewall_enable="YES" >> firewall_type="open" >> >> su-3.2# grep ^ip /etc/rc.conf >> ipfilter_enable="YES" >> ipmon_enable="YES" >> ipnat_enable="YES" >> ipnat_flags="-d" >> >> This is not good. >> You are running 2 different firewalls at the same time. >> comment out >> firewall_enable="YES" >> firewall_type="open" >> >> and reboot your system. >> >> > > do you know that for a fact or you just guessing?? > > because first of all it worked before just fine with 2 firewalls > second i disabled firewall, so firewall is no longer an issue > third i have another system just like that that runs 2 firewall and > everything working just fine! > > if you dont know the answer there is no need to throw just any answer > as its pretty clear that this isn't the right answer > Just because 2 firewalls at same time didn't blow up in your face before, sure don't mean they are working correctly. Thats one bad assumption to base debugging on. Jumping in my face, questioning the free advice given, sure makes you look foolish. You should read the handbook firewall section before opening your month and sticking your foot into it. People on this list will stop helping if you turn on them and bit the hand that feeds you. And another thing. Network access for a jail is not controlled by the hosts firewall. You need to look else where for your jail network access solution. If your attitude was not so XXXXXXX, I could have told you the solution, but now go learn it the hard way. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 18:26:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ABA71065672 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966B58FC08 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:25:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.68]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:25:42 -0700 Message-ID: <4C45EA1C.6070601@comclark.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:25:32 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C452644.6060508@comclark.com> <20100720134205.3168f4f1@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20100720134205.3168f4f1@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2010 18:25:43.0207 (UTC) FILETIME=[F6AE0370:01CB2838] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Subject: Re: new jail utility is available. announcement. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:26:00 -0000 Jerry wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:29:56 +0800 > Aiza articulated: > > >> This is a news announcement to inform people who have interest in jails, >> that a new jail utility is available. >> >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/qjail/ >> >> Has a file suitable for the pkg_add command or the port make files can >> be downloaded and a "make install" run. >> >> >> Qjail [ q = quick ] is a 4th generation wrapper for the basic chroot >> jail system that includes security and performance enhancements. Plus a >> new level of "user friendliness" enhancements dealing with deploying >> just a few jails or large jail environments consisting of 100's of >> jails. Qjail requires no knowledge of the jail command usage. >> >> It uses "nullfs" for read-only system binaries, sharing one copy of >> them with all the jails. >> >> Uses "mdconfig" to create sparse image jails. Sparse image jails >> provide a method to limit the total disk space a jail can consume, >> while only occupying disk space of the sum size of the files in >> the image jail. >> >> Ability to assign ip address with their network device name, >> so aliases are auto created on jail start and auto removed on jail stop. >> >> Ability to create "ZONE"s of identical qjail systems, each with >> their own group of jails. >> >> Ability to designate a portion of the jail name as a group prefix so >> the command being executed will apply to only those jail names >> matching that prefix. >> >> Qjail reduces the complexities of small and large jail deployments to >> the novice level. Qjail has a fully documented manpage written for easy >> comprehension. Details are given to felicitate the use of qjail's >> capabilities to the fullest extent possible. > > There presently does not exist a port for this, or at least I could not > find one. Is someone going to create a port? > > Like the announcement said the port is available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/qjail/ And if you have ever submitted a new port for inclusion into the freebsd ports system you would know that it takes months for it to show up in the collection. So you can wait till xmas or RELEASE 9.0 to come out for the port to be in the ports collection or just fetch it form the development project site. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 18:39:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7933E1065672 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:39:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.85.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41A3D8FC12 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 99974 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jul 2010 18:39:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1279651143; bh=Ibq2eq1SW8bVl06+ItBYcfYGwgZIt9sV1buwx2HD1cA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VNV31iEI0/cMthtqODBSbkfizNjEcGngbhum0SkhFouzGfn4+qgz971qhdVo6To/M+ASD4p/8XQIKQNBXoN9wNe+D1ON7lLKZrfu5bKErUzEMAD4rQYzAClaaGJIEkZfS9RyQlxwow+pXuIKCqmAY4iJV8EK306unTKgZBdEIXg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OnD9W3bPvLRp5/1dM8kq2qjbOaWL/7L77oX+9YLyzrQSLeT8mscCCWVMNuWnK1du9HIPQRcJ/bu/8GR1oILz0i9F2vyCoFfhp3JKZ6/qIMJMUd/T28G9GY2rbKodiw9e8ArTFwhxTW6jEGKECptBd/CTUiq0UphmhrKkgog0FB4=; Message-ID: <565815.99693.qm@web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 1fBLqvwVM1lLDxYQ6kPXWb3AniI2Ijy.ESdotmXid.zyYrL RaLvQTu.GOwtZ1Nhj_BOpHVeKys6CEyYD3zqropXzvOwgkWqaenquQPXnDUw q2VNJ6VS.ArGSyUH0eDp.LqDSq9aEEJTmEDxbSqDYlrpFfNVPGfgSUt4cG2E qu9_Jynkxy3TxlN4oxtTAR3A502aWeB7VspgO_2PpOFyY08OedPDj90PN4wL Usme4UrifkLpBxObdIhMmpU.S_PKG9HQBjV8MRjPqMWmvaTlkp5aGnmR1Uym 1mfuyx6Zwc9sKpKOiWakMznrL3EYvbys8tvQXUOyAEA0- Received: from [98.242.233.74] by web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:39:03 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.2.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:39:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Tillman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:39:04 -0000 Message: 24 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:05:13 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: "Aryeh M. Friedman" , =A0=A0=A0 freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100720180513.GB46959@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 09:03:55PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman > wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:33:28 -0400 > > Jerry wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:26:44 -0400 > >> Aryeh M. Friedman articulated: > >> > >> > I am a consultant and was retained by my client to setup qmail or > >> > exim on a VPS running 8.0-STABLE (i386). After setting up the DNS > >> > (A record and MX record) we have been unable to send or receive > >> > mail. The client has/had a working script for installing qmail on > >> > 7.1-STABLE but it seems to not work on 8.0-STABLE. They are using > >> > the same VPS provider who this 7.1-STABLE install script worked > >> > under. I have tried everything I can think of to make it work > >> > including asking obvious questions on -questions@. > >> > > >> > I informed the client that the task is likely beyond me capabilities > >> > but I would help recruit someone who would be able to do it at a > >> > reasonable fee paid to them (I am acting as a no cost middle man on > >> > this [I am helping the client for free since I was unable to get it > >> > done]). > >> > > >> > Please send any ideas and/or offers to do the job > >> > >> I would seriously suggest that you consider installing Postfix. It is > >> in the ports tree, is well maintained and works out of the box. The > >> Postfix forum will be glad to give you any advice you need for setting > >> up and securing your mail server. Qmail is no longer supported by its > >> author and can be a nightmare to maintain. > >> > > > > We had also tried sendmail and couldn't get that working either so I > > suspect it is a general config issue not a MTA one. =A0(I have set > > sendmail up about 30 times in the past so I know a little bit about it) >=20 > Exim is a very good choice. Forget the Postfix suggestions. It's > Sendmail's brother:-) Sendmail comes from a good family. ////jerry >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0 -- Lucky Dube =A0 At the risk of starting a flame war, I think sendmail gets a bad rap. It's = not been the most widely used MTA for the last few decades because it sucks= . It's about personal preference. =A0 Now I know this may be redundant advice but I used to run an MTA and enjoye= d having the use of it and freedom to have my own mailserver at home. But a= las, the spammers have ruined that for all of us and almost every ISP out t= here will block port 25 by default. Even if they don't block port 25=A0it w= ill only be a matter of time before they detect your outgoing mail traffic = and then block you so that you're forced to purchase an add-on service to r= un your own MTA. They will use lame excuses that you've been blacklisted be= cause of spam. It's simply their way of making you cough up extra dough for= your service. This is one of the parts of the Internet that=A0I really hat= e and long for the good old days. =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 18:39:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F0A106567F for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:39:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C10F8FC0A for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:39:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.68]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:39:37 -0700 Message-ID: <4C45ED62.6000709@comclark.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:39:30 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Flecko References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2010 18:39:37.0833 (UTC) FILETIME=[E827D590:01CB283A] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommend ezjail.conf settings? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:39:46 -0000 Ed Flecko wrote: > Hi folks, > I'm looking at the ezjail.conf file, and it seems like SOME of the > settings might be mandatory, but they're all commented out. > > For example, the: > > # ezjail_mount_enable="YES" > # ezjail_devfs_enable="YES" > # ezjail_devfs_ruleset="devfsrules_jail" > # ezjail_procfs_enable="YES" > # ezjail_fdescfs_enable="YES" > > should be uncommented because they're "Default options for newly > created jails", right? > > Are there any of the other settings I might want to consider enabling? > > Thank you, > Ed Of course their commented out. Those are the default settings hard coded in the ezjail-admin script. You have no need to ever change those. Leave the conf file alone. Messing with it will only cause you problems. And I suggest you leave that dinosaur ezjail to it death and move on to its replacement, qjail. Which is a complete rewrite of ezjail, fixing all of its long time bugs and adding many new features. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 18:43:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5161065779 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:43:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEDA8FC1D for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so743020wwe.31 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:43:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ud2kdUgbMWKsppxRo1cQbV5UETl1fMbI3/5emT4eVws=; b=Gzb1daQCPaG+XkVmRIaT8/TrxcBcXV0adYWhw4VYk9szpJ0XkAAuMmmq3Xaqtd4Mm1 bWt0jY6CYJGyzzUAwXH1nQvCkXQxxDHcyNwPQtpB6N/YVS1KXvLGOEcVGgwNKAUW/3yl 3i5PU+6hrpI1CxmZ6i903ATfJUmas4ghHuHfs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QL1miepEy0qRrvEQ3lTyKe57mD8nwGKj43pKV8g51qmw8L2vBTs9pvi/daikfWgS/u jISo1HDxcR2Qj18EHc11W2guSr63Uxs1xAql2ZezO0+MLy/BUo6WdURZoi57QlfhR4KE 0/SmECsFdUWdrTp91R1FC28uuoVlenA6w8FC8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.129.84 with SMTP id n20mr5968573wbs.61.1279651399020; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.229.202 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:43:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C45E7EA.7090403@comclark.com> References: <4C3F91CF.5090206@locolomo.org> <4C419944.8030702@locolomo.org> <4C447F7F.6020308@locolomo.org> <4C45CBA3.9020800@comclark.com> <4C45E7EA.7090403@comclark.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:43:18 -0400 Message-ID: From: alexus To: Aiza Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipnat.conf - map and rdr won't work! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: google@alexus.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:43:26 -0000 On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Aiza wrote: > alexus wrote: >>> >>> =C2=A0su-3.2# grep ^firewall /etc/rc.conf >>> =C2=A0firewall_enable=3D"YES" >>> =C2=A0firewall_type=3D"open" >>> >>> =C2=A0su-3.2# grep ^ip /etc/rc.conf >>> =C2=A0ipfilter_enable=3D"YES" >>> =C2=A0ipmon_enable=3D"YES" >>> =C2=A0ipnat_enable=3D"YES" >>> =C2=A0ipnat_flags=3D"-d" >>> >>> This is not good. >>> You are running 2 different firewalls at the same time. >>> comment out >>> firewall_enable=3D"YES" >>> firewall_type=3D"open" >>> >>> and reboot your system. >>> >>> >> >> do you know that for a fact or you just guessing?? >> >> because first of all it worked before just fine with 2 firewalls >> second i disabled firewall, so firewall is no longer an issue >> third i have another system just like that that runs 2 firewall and >> everything working just fine! >> >> if you dont know the answer there is no need to throw just any answer >> as its pretty clear that this isn't the right answer >> > Just because 2 firewalls at same time didn't blow up in your face before, > sure don't mean they are working correctly. Thats one bad assumption to b= ase > debugging on. i never had any problem doing so, not that i'm saying it's a smart thing to= do i'm well aware of that, and as i mention before both firewall doing different purposes its not like i'm filtering packets with both firewalls at the same time. > Jumping in my face, questioning the free advice given, sure makes you loo= k > foolish. You should read the handbook firewall section before opening you= r > month and sticking your foot into it. i wasn't jumping in your face, i just outline some of the facts. i'm asking help here, there is no point for me to jump anyone. > People on this list will stop helping if you turn on them and bit the han= d > that feeds you. > > And another thing. Network access for a jail is not controlled by the hos= ts > firewall. You need to look else where for your jail network access soluti= on. my jail has a private IP address, so in order to get to my jail you need to go through public IP and that being hosted within host environment jail itself seem like it's functional fine as i can ssh into jail from host environment so my guess i gotta look somewhere inside of ipnat, since ipnat is responsible for routing packets from/to jail > If your attitude was not so XXXXXXX, I could have told you the solution, = but > now go learn it the hard way. i'm sorry you feel that way, surely didn't mean anything bad by outlining f= acts. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > --=20 http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 18:54:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9DA1065675 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:54:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBB38FC21 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:54:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.local (business-088-079-092-162.static.arcor-ip.net [88.79.92.162]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3C3D11C0871; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:54:46 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C45F0F1.7010609@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:54:41 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: google@alexus.org References: <4C3F91CF.5090206@locolomo.org> <4C419944.8030702@locolomo.org> <4C447F7F.6020308@locolomo.org> <4C45D57F.2020506@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: alexus , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipnat.conf - map and rdr won't work! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:54:51 -0000 On 20/07/10 20.07, alexus wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Erik Norgaard wrote: > plan b is to run natd, but i'd rather run ipnat especially that ipnat > used to work before no problem! Maybe move away from what used to work and towards what is working :) Whichever you prefer, just stick to one solution only. > su-3.2# ping -c1 lama > PING lama (172.16.172.16): 56 data bytes > 64 bytes from 172.16.172.16: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.075 ms > > --- lama ping statistics --- > 1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0.0% packet loss > round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.075/0.075/0.075/0.000 ms > su-3.2# > > ip address tells me that this is in fact jail's IP Yes and no, if you shut down your jail you should still be able to ping that ip as I read your snippet from your rc.conf. >> So I suppose that from your host environment you can ssh into the jail? Did >> ssh start up, netstat -l? From the jail, can you ping the host environment? > > su-3.2# jls > JID IP Address Hostname Path > 1 172.16.172.16 lama /usr/jail/lama > su-3.2# jexec 1 /etc/rc.d/sshd status > sshd is running as pid 1085. > su-3.2# ps -p 1085 > PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND > 1085 ?? IsJ 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/sshd > su-3.2# > OK, but you didn't check where your ssh binds. > i know, i can run it that IP address as an alias on public interface, > but we on purpose added another NIC to be private NIC. Well, read the man jail(8): ip4.addr A comma-separated list of IPv4 addresses assigned to the prison. If this is set, the jail is restricted to using only these address. Any attempts to use other addresses fail, and attempts to use wildcard addresses silently use the jailed address instead. ... If I understand this correctly, remove the line jail_lama_ip="172.16.172.16" from your rc.conf and your jail can then bind to port 22 on the external interface thus bypassing the need for nat. This is ok, since all you did was redirecting traffic. And the map rule shouldn't be necessary either, nor should the fxp interface. BR, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 19:27:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F221065670 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:27:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB83E8FC24 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:27:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.local (business-088-079-092-162.static.arcor-ip.net [88.79.92.162]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 539E81C0871 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:27:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C45F88A.6000903@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:27:06 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C3F91CF.5090206@locolomo.org> <4C419944.8030702@locolomo.org> <4C447F7F.6020308@locolomo.org> <4C45CBA3.9020800@comclark.com> <4C45E7EA.7090403@comclark.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ipnat.conf - map and rdr won't work! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:27:10 -0000 On 20/07/10 20.43, alexus wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Aiza wrote: >> Just because 2 firewalls at same time didn't blow up in your face before, >> sure don't mean they are working correctly. Thats one bad assumption to base >> debugging on. > > i never had any problem doing so, not that i'm saying it's a smart thing to do > i'm well aware of that, and as i mention before both firewall doing > different purposes > its not like i'm filtering packets with both firewalls at the same time. You've never had a problem? Or maybe you didn't know: Picture this: You've got two competing firewall solutions loaded at the same time. How do you know which one handles what? In fact, all firewalls comes with a default policy which is in effect if no rules are loaded. First, they are not consulted in parallel, just how would that work? maybe some sort of load balancing? So, maybe both are consulted, but does that mean that if solution A is consulted first, then solution B only see what is passed by A? Or maybe it sees both what is passed and blocked with the power to change that? What about stateful filtering, if solution A creates a state and B don't? Maybe only one of the solutions is actually consulted and the other one just hangs around without any effect? Then how would you know which one is A and which one is B? If both are consulted you need to keep sure their rulesets are equivalent, or who knows what else might happen? And if only one, which one? OK, so you say you use ipnat for redirect and map and ipfw for packet filtering. Even if we assume that ipfilter packet filtering capabilities does not alter the anything, then the next question would be does ipfw filtering take place before or after ipnat? Because you have to write your ruleset taking this into account. Iirc, ipfilter wraps around the kernel and takes over all packet handling. That means that any other firewall solution you have "configured" that is more tightly integrated with the kernel just hangs around doing nothing. All that traffic shaping you've done have no effect at all. So, you said, "but it worked".. or did it? Well, packets may get passed, some may get blocked, that's easy to check, but does it mean that everything works according to your "design"? You mentioned traffic shaping. Have you actually tested and shown that this takes place and works as expected? Mixing multiple different firewall solutions is a recipe for disaster. As for choice of firewall, chose one, whichever, but just one. It's five years since I switched from ipfilter to packet filter. I don't know if ipfilter is still actively developed, last time, last year I tried to find the source code for Solaris and only found dead ends. I recommend packet filter, it should have the traffic shaping capabilities you mentioned. BR, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 19:32:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19096106566B for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:32:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F338FC1B for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:32:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so7957482vws.13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.88.84 with SMTP id z20mr3674907vcl.232.1279654331633; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e20sm1732993vcm.40.2010.07.20.12.32.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CF2F2E5484D for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:32:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:32:09 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100720153209.74ec26e6@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4C45EA1C.6070601@comclark.com> References: <4C452644.6060508@comclark.com> <20100720134205.3168f4f1@scorpio> <4C45EA1C.6070601@comclark.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: new jail utility is available. announcement. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:32:13 -0000 On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:25:32 +0800 Aiza articulated: > Like the announcement said the port is available at > http://sourceforge.net/projects/qjail/ > > And if you have ever submitted a new port for inclusion into the freebsd > ports system you would know that it takes months for it to show up in > the collection. Actually, I have submitted a few ports. I believe it averaged only approximately 10 to 14 days before they were officially committed to the ports tree. Updating them usually takes 10 days or less. > So you can wait till xmas or RELEASE 9.0 to come out for the port to be > in the ports collection or just fetch it form the development project site. I guess I was just lucky I did not have to wait 6 months. I am assuming, perhaps incorrectly, that you might be the maintainer of this new port. What is the PR #? -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ There are a lot of lies going around.... and half of them are true. Winston Churchill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 19:34:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9094A106566C for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:34:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2188FC08 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.68]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:34:18 -0700 Message-ID: <4C45FA30.8020004@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:34:08 +0800 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: google@alexus.org References: <4C3F91CF.5090206@locolomo.org> <4C419944.8030702@locolomo.org> <4C447F7F.6020308@locolomo.org> <4C45CBA3.9020800@comclark.com> <4C45E7EA.7090403@comclark.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2010 19:34:18.0711 (UTC) FILETIME=[8BB61670:01CB2842] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipnat.conf - map and rdr won't work! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:34:32 -0000 alexus wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Aiza wrote: >> alexus wrote: >>>> su-3.2# grep ^firewall /etc/rc.conf >>>> firewall_enable="YES" >>>> firewall_type="open" >>>> >>>> su-3.2# grep ^ip /etc/rc.conf >>>> ipfilter_enable="YES" >>>> ipmon_enable="YES" >>>> ipnat_enable="YES" >>>> ipnat_flags="-d" >>>> >>>> This is not good. >>>> You are running 2 different firewalls at the same time. >>>> comment out >>>> firewall_enable="YES" >>>> firewall_type="open" >>>> >>>> and reboot your system. >>>> >>>> >>> do you know that for a fact or you just guessing?? >>> >>> because first of all it worked before just fine with 2 firewalls >>> second i disabled firewall, so firewall is no longer an issue >>> third i have another system just like that that runs 2 firewall and >>> everything working just fine! >>> >>> if you dont know the answer there is no need to throw just any answer >>> as its pretty clear that this isn't the right answer >>> >> Just because 2 firewalls at same time didn't blow up in your face before, >> sure don't mean they are working correctly. Thats one bad assumption to base >> debugging on. > > i never had any problem doing so, not that i'm saying it's a smart thing to do > i'm well aware of that, and as i mention before both firewall doing > different purposes > its not like i'm filtering packets with both firewalls at the same time. > >> Jumping in my face, questioning the free advice given, sure makes you look >> foolish. You should read the handbook firewall section before opening your >> month and sticking your foot into it. > > i wasn't jumping in your face, i just outline some of the facts. > i'm asking help here, there is no point for me to jump anyone. > >> People on this list will stop helping if you turn on them and bit the hand >> that feeds you. >> >> And another thing. Network access for a jail is not controlled by the hosts >> firewall. You need to look else where for your jail network access solution. > > my jail has a private IP address, so in order to get to my jail you > need to go through public IP and that being hosted within host > environment > jail itself seem like it's functional fine as i can ssh into jail from > host environment > > so my guess i gotta look somewhere inside of ipnat, since ipnat is > responsible for routing packets from/to jail > >> If your attitude was not so XXXXXXX, I could have told you the solution, but >> now go learn it the hard way. > > i'm sorry you feel that way, surely didn't mean anything bad by outlining facts. > Have you copied your hosts /etc/resolv.conf file to your jail? How did you create your jail? ezjail??? What application are you planing on running inside of the jail? Did you give the jail the ip address of your public network? check it again to verify the numbers are correct. Doing ssh from the host is not the way to test. You need someone from the public network to try to ssh in by using your public ip address. But the first test, is to start the jail and access the jails console from the host and them issue dug or whois command from the jails console to see if you have outbound public network access. The ping command is a security leak and not allowed from a jail by design. See "man jail" for details about ping. If no public network access, then the hosts /etc/resolv.conf is missing form the jail, or named wrong, or not in the correct location or the jails assigned ip address is not your public ip address, or if you created the jail without using ezjail you messed it up. And all of this is done with all your firewalls disabled. And jails do not have their own firewalls. If your jail has one disable it. Firewalls DO NOT drive network traffic to a jail, so erase that idea from your mind. Your barking up the wrong tree going down that road. Your problem is not a firewall one, but a jail config one. This debugging method is called "process of elimination" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 19:41:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32C81065670 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:41:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dadans@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9F58FC1B for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:41:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so7969222vws.13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:41:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=VZPqB4sc/DjFIiwVDHEc8j7EeWM3ekzuOz2lOcLTtMY=; b=wBksvA4sCR9wjPPnHHDIsLRUeAU+pPY4l59xDV3Wu52kZWIVZw6L8WCn4MnflFR/vs OdrV0kVs/T+7cEppnTP//nZgHTuwEKF6BYE0KdQkbEfgln5IBwSkrdyrmCVOKfXSuFej w6vicPhTkHGkFhIsxPRQXLaAfc0EtCPR+JeW4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=hUxefK6uCSbIF/HyE9ZbP8trt4AxKdX5HWadCzeSKsgeFmHvBFXXmOceZzsiu4eMSn CcpljREb96HFK2RkD4cgijNjPrGLVXJitL7rqtl00bNqF7W+7wA3PY3e3kP5RY5QvRrc /itvVLe56WYCp9S0tx3aOZ803eKVa1OlE6bz8= Received: by 10.220.49.204 with SMTP id w12mr3775707vcf.103.1279653013256; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:10:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.189.199 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:09:53 -0700 (PDT) From: DadAN Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:09:53 +0200 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Wifi AP behind FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:41:03 -0000 Hello, I am planning to change my network a little, I need to put WiFi AP (Dlink Di-524) behind FreeBSD box, there are 2 nic in this box - one should be for internet (xl0) and another should use xl1 nic for WiFi AP. I need to know how to setup routing in FreeBSD box, could someone help? And also when someone connect via WiFi, I want to get connected to internet. Now I use 192.168.0.0/24 adresses from WiFi AP dhcp. FreeBSD 8.0 thanks & regards for any advice DadAN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 19:46:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E9851065672 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:46:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout029.mac.com (asmtpout029.mac.com [17.148.16.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166DC8FC08 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:46:05 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp029.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L5V00E9TG8AB2A0@asmtp029.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:45:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1007200104 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-07-20_08:2010-07-20, 2010-07-20, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:45:46 -0700 Message-id: References: To: DadAN X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wifi AP behind FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:46:06 -0000 Hi-- On Jul 20, 2010, at 12:09 PM, DadAN wrote: > I need to know how to setup routing in FreeBSD box, could someone help? > And also when someone connect via WiFi, I want to get connected to internet. > Now I use 192.168.0.0/24 adresses from WiFi AP dhcp. There's fine documentation available at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-routing.html Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 19:46:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7C210656DD for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:46:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1398FC0C for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.68]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:45:59 -0700 Message-ID: <4C45FCE1.7010006@comclark.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:45:37 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C452644.6060508@comclark.com> <20100720134205.3168f4f1@scorpio> <4C45EA1C.6070601@comclark.com> <20100720153209.74ec26e6@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20100720153209.74ec26e6@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2010 19:45:59.0814 (UTC) FILETIME=[2D99EA60:01CB2844] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Subject: Re: new jail utility is available. announcement. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:46:14 -0000 Jerry wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:25:32 +0800 > Aiza articulated: > > >> Like the announcement said the port is available at >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/qjail/ >> >> And if you have ever submitted a new port for inclusion into the freebsd >> ports system you would know that it takes months for it to show up in >> the collection. > > Actually, I have submitted a few ports. I believe it averaged only > approximately 10 to 14 days before they were officially committed to > the ports tree. Updating them usually takes 10 days or less. > >> So you can wait till xmas or RELEASE 9.0 to come out for the port to be >> in the ports collection or just fetch it form the development project site. > > I guess I was just lucky I did not have to wait 6 months. I am > assuming, perhaps incorrectly, that you might be the maintainer of this > new port. What is the PR #? > There has been the normal pre RELEASE freeze on since xmas, that is why no port activity is occurring right now. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=148777 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 19:57:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A05C1065672 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:57:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45758FC14 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:57:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.165.72.180] (unknown [89.204.137.180]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4E5311C0871; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:57:53 +0200 (CEST) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) From: =?utf-8?Q?Erik_N=C3=B8rgaard?= Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:56:32 +0200 To: DadAN Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Wifi AP behind FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:57:56 -0000 On 20/07/2010, at 21.09, DadAN wrote: > Hello, > I am planning to change my network a little, > I need to put WiFi AP (Dlink Di-524) behind FreeBSD box, > there are 2 nic in this box - one should be for internet (xl0) > and another should use xl1 nic for WiFi AP. >=20 > I need to know how to setup routing in FreeBSD box, > could someone help? You need to enable routing in the kernel, I've forgotten the kernel variable= but do sysctl -a | grep rout Enable routing setting the variable to 1.=20 Since you have a private network connecting to the Internet you need to conf= igure nat. There are different solutions, I prefer packet filter.=20 > And also when someone connect via WiFi, I want to get connected to interne= t. > Now I use 192.168.0.0/24 adresses from WiFi AP dhcp. > FreeBSD 8.0 >=20 That's ok just configure the internal interface in that range. It should be p= ossible to configure the AP so it won't assign ti ip of your freebsd box.=20= You need to configure the AP such that the clients get default gateway set t= o the ip on the internal interface of your freebsd box.=20 BR Erik.=20 > thanks & regards for any advice > DadAN > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 20:23:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935F61065675 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20FE68FC08 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:23:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so2006758wwf.1 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:23:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6bjC3YB+wdwzVqT4PMXBGulvoSXaVo7Wb4FC+SPQ88g=; b=USJIrGv9X6XHGseOJSVr1r7fKp5Kzf+6GKTG/uCMDmLXmwYFXJAH2CEyrLUmYoySFA aC1KC9T57pOlQs2KtEatZwnaO3zcPdKVq46kmSrCygunOpGU9XDSeiB52BLfhxYse9bW B6uUBtV2MI1P0sSULk05U5qXB58Of1O0K0ZWk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ken9gld6SaogfvHn+0P1K80qf56FIRJ2eWJEuJJOuuXXubMvuPShdnBEJ3/+yJnbmG UakGyI9ogR2SKJYrPut3fVHsno5xrqcGL3MK928iLpyVTrfqQqv+LB5dwNrHdHRU0P28 nE/ftMqgRKFWjOJ/YvrQdB4rsKYbjZGkfk7Tk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.144.206 with SMTP id a14mr6018797wbv.112.1279657412812; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.229.202 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:23:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C45F0F1.7010609@locolomo.org> References: <4C3F91CF.5090206@locolomo.org> <4C419944.8030702@locolomo.org> <4C447F7F.6020308@locolomo.org> <4C45D57F.2020506@locolomo.org> <4C45F0F1.7010609@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:23:32 -0400 Message-ID: From: alexus To: Erik Norgaard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipnat.conf - map and rdr won't work! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: google@alexus.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:23:34 -0000 On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Erik Norgaard wrot= e: > On 20/07/10 20.07, alexus wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Erik Norgaard >> =C2=A0wrote: >> plan b is to run natd, but i'd rather run ipnat especially that ipnat >> used to work before no problem! > > Maybe move away from what used to work and towards what is working :) > Whichever you prefer, just stick to one solution only. right, yet I still would like to know where problem is :)) >> su-3.2# ping -c1 lama >> PING lama (172.16.172.16): 56 data bytes >> 64 bytes from 172.16.172.16: icmp_seq=3D0 ttl=3D64 time=3D0.075 ms >> >> --- lama ping statistics --- >> 1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0.0% packet loss >> round-trip min/avg/max/stddev =3D 0.075/0.075/0.075/0.000 ms >> su-3.2# >> >> ip address tells me that this is in fact jail's IP > > Yes and no, if you shut down your jail you should still be able to ping t= hat > ip as I read your snippet from your rc.conf. you right, i'm pinging ip that resides on another interface and doesn't really belong to jail at the first place you asked me if I can ping jail from host, I dont know how else I can test it then pinging ip is kind of pointless then, so i ssh in that seems to be working, what else can I try? >>> So I suppose that from your host environment you can ssh into the jail? >>> Did >>> ssh start up, netstat -l? From the jail, can you ping the host >>> environment? >> >> su-3.2# jls >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0JID =C2=A0IP Address =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hostname =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Path >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01 =C2=A0172.16.172.16 =C2=A0 lama =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/u= sr/jail/lama >> su-3.2# jexec 1 /etc/rc.d/sshd status >> sshd is running as pid 1085. >> su-3.2# ps -p 1085 >> =C2=A0 PID =C2=A0TT =C2=A0STAT =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0TIME COMMAND >> =C2=A01085 =C2=A0?? =C2=A0IsJ =C2=A0 =C2=A00:00.00 /usr/sbin/sshd >> su-3.2# >> > > OK, but you didn't check where your ssh binds. su-3.2# netstat -tan | grep LISTEN | grep 22 tcp4 0 0 172.16.172.16.22 *.* LISTEN su-3.2# would that sufficient? I just don't know how else I can see .. >> i know, i can run it that IP address as an alias on public interface, >> but we on purpose added another NIC to be private NIC. > > Well, read the man jail(8): > > ip4.addr > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0A comma-separated list of IPv4 addresses assigned to = the prison. > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0If this is set, the jail is restricted to using only = these > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0address. =C2=A0Any attempts to use other addresses fa= il, and attempts > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to use wildcard addresses silently use the jailed add= ress > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0instead. ... > > If I understand this correctly, remove the line > > =C2=A0jail_lama_ip=3D"172.16.172.16" > > from your rc.conf and your jail can then bind to port 22 on the external > interface thus bypassing the need for nat. This is ok, since all you did = was > redirecting traffic. And the map rule shouldn't be necessary either, nor > should the fxp interface. > > BR, Erik > i actually like this idea, i think i'm going give that a shot... i'll let you know how that worked out... --=20 http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 20:36:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0E91065689 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:36:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197EA8FC08 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:36:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so8044388vws.13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.158.71 with SMTP id e7mr2391904vcx.124.1279658214897; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m31sm1765613vcf.13.2010.07.20.13.36.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 17CB1E5484D for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:36:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:36:51 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100720163651.0daf727d@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4C45FCE1.7010006@comclark.com> References: <4C452644.6060508@comclark.com> <20100720134205.3168f4f1@scorpio> <4C45EA1C.6070601@comclark.com> <20100720153209.74ec26e6@scorpio> <4C45FCE1.7010006@comclark.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: new jail utility is available. announcement. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:36:57 -0000 On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:45:37 +0800 Aiza articulated: > There has been the normal pre RELEASE freeze on since xmas, that is why > no port activity is occurring right now. > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=148777 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 02:47:18 GMT It was only just submitted. I would hardly expect it to be committed yet. By the way, there has been a great deal of port activity since Christmas. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong. H. L. Mencken From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 20:50:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E8A106567F for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:50:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE9E8FC1E for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:50:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so8062144vws.13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.123.198 with SMTP id q6mr3643884vcr.239.1279659006800; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i40sm1772147vcr.8.2010.07.20.13.50.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6E0F4E5484D for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:50:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:50:03 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100720165003.42ce7fc7@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> <20100720093328.4f1bd5d0@scorpio> <20100720094609.02f88f0baryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:50:08 -0000 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:03:55 +0300 Odhiambo Washington articulated: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman > wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:33:28 -0400 > > Jerry wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:26:44 -0400 > >> Aryeh M. Friedman articulated: > >> > >> > I am a consultant and was retained by my client to setup qmail or > >> > exim on a VPS running 8.0-STABLE (i386). After setting up the DNS > >> > (A record and MX record) we have been unable to send or receive > >> > mail. The client has/had a working script for installing qmail on > >> > 7.1-STABLE but it seems to not work on 8.0-STABLE. They are using > >> > the same VPS provider who this 7.1-STABLE install script worked > >> > under. I have tried everything I can think of to make it work > >> > including asking obvious questions on -questions@. > >> > > >> > I informed the client that the task is likely beyond me capabilities > >> > but I would help recruit someone who would be able to do it at a > >> > reasonable fee paid to them (I am acting as a no cost middle man on > >> > this [I am helping the client for free since I was unable to get it > >> > done]). > >> > > >> > Please send any ideas and/or offers to do the job > >> > >> I would seriously suggest that you consider installing Postfix. It is > >> in the ports tree, is well maintained and works out of the box. The > >> Postfix forum will be glad to give you any advice you need for setting > >> up and securing your mail server. Qmail is no longer supported by its > >> author and can be a nightmare to maintain. > >> > > > > We had also tried sendmail and couldn't get that working either so I > > suspect it is a general config issue not a MTA one.  (I have set > > sendmail up about 30 times in the past so I know a little bit about it) > > Exim is a very good choice. Forget the Postfix suggestions. It's > Sendmail's brother:-) At least Postfix is fully RFC compliant, as opposed to Exim. SEE: RFC 2034 (SMTP enhanced status codes), RFC 3461-4 (delivery status notifications), RFC 1652 (8-bit MIME including 8->7bit conversion) among others. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ The wise shepherd never trusts his flock to a smiling wolf. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 21:20:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18410106566B for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from smtprelay03.ispgateway.de (smtprelay03.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1DC8FC0C for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:20:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [80.67.16.112] (helo=localhost) by smtprelay03.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1ObKFB-0004AA-RP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:20:53 +0200 Received: from rgnb-5d87d8f8.pool.mediaWays.net (rgnb-5d87d8f8.pool.mediaWays.net [93.135.216.248]) by webmail.df.eu (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:20:53 +0200 Message-ID: <20100720232053.214165ot9dljm6sc@webmail.df.eu> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:20:53 +0200 From: Markus Hoenicka To: Olivier Nicole References: <19523.21705.648520.937010@yeti.mininet> <86eif0xi0f.fsf@chateau.d.if> <19524.43056.507309.913955@yeti.mininet> <201007200140.o6K1eX7a050472@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <201007200140.o6K1eX7a050472@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: domainFACTORY X-Originating-IP: 93.135.216.248 X-Df-Sender: 472582 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Emacs splash screen went to textmode only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:20:56 -0000 Quoting Olivier Nicole : > Hi, > > >> 4) Another instance of Emacs on my desktop, this time running in a >> terminal. The startup screen is yet another one. > > In this one, I clearly recognize emacs being run inside an ascii > terminal. Ascii terminal do not have graphic possibility (nor mousse) > so it is only normal that there is no graphic splash screen. > Yes, I am fully aware of that. In my original post I wondered if Emacs for some reason *thinks* it is running in a terminal and thus displays the terminal mode splash screen. But #2 and #4 are different, thus I proved myself wrong. > If it is the same version of emacs that you run on the instances 2 and > 3, I would look for a X issue. Do you have an environment variable set > in the xterm? In that xterm, can you launch another xterm? Well, "set" displays a few screens full of environment variables, so, yes, of course there are some and they have to be there. But none of these affected Emacs before upgrading to 23.2.1. BTW launching another xterm from an xterm works without problems. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 21:26:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC8F1065678 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:26:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083DD8FC1A for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:26:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 68-189-245-235.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.245.235] helo=cube.entropy.prv) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ObKK3-000BWP-DW; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:26:00 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by cube.entropy.prv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3345C42BB688; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:25:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C461460.3090900@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:25:52 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aiza References: <4C452644.6060508@comclark.com> <20100720134205.3168f4f1@scorpio> <4C45EA1C.6070601@comclark.com> <20100720153209.74ec26e6@scorpio> <4C45FCE1.7010006@comclark.com> In-Reply-To: <4C45FCE1.7010006@comclark.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new jail utility is available. announcement. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:26:01 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Aiza wrote: > Jerry wrote: >> On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:25:32 +0800 >> Aiza articulated: >> >> >>> Like the announcement said the port is available at >>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/qjail/ >>> >>> And if you have ever submitted a new port for inclusion into the >>> freebsd ports system you would know that it takes months for it to >>> show up in the collection. >> >> Actually, I have submitted a few ports. I believe it averaged only >> approximately 10 to 14 days before they were officially committed to >> the ports tree. Updating them usually takes 10 days or less. >> >>> So you can wait till xmas or RELEASE 9.0 to come out for the port to >>> be in the ports collection or just fetch it form the development >>> project site. >> >> I guess I was just lucky I did not have to wait 6 months. I am >> assuming, perhaps incorrectly, that you might be the maintainer of this >> new port. What is the PR #? >> > There has been the normal pre RELEASE freeze on since xmas, that is why > no port activity is occurring right now. > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=148777 Hi Aiza, Where did you get that information? Whoever told you that is mistaken. A large number of commits have entered the ports tree since the beginning of the year. Have a look at the ports CVS mailing list archive since December 2009: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/ The ports tree does go into a freeze or slush state around release times, but that doesn't completely stop commits either, mostly sweeping changes that affect a great number of ports or introduce some other incompatibility. Here's some more information: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/committers-guide/ports.html#AEN1466 Hope that helps, and thank you for your new port, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFMRhRg0sRouByUApARAqpqAJ9bvM5El5YXO0GjCfkmwaZwy4pXHQCgvuuc QNAOpT/EElnICj72S97QAuY= =jIkQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 21:26:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113881065711; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:26:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C37338FC0C; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [80.67.16.112] (helo=localhost) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1ObKKG-0004Tr-Aj; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:26:08 +0200 Received: from rgnb-5d87d8f8.pool.mediaWays.net (rgnb-5d87d8f8.pool.mediaWays.net [93.135.216.248]) by webmail.df.eu (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:26:08 +0200 Message-ID: <20100720232608.20822abt0h7wwj28@webmail.df.eu> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:26:08 +0200 From: Markus Hoenicka To: Ashish SHUKLA References: <19523.21705.648520.937010@yeti.mininet> <86eif0xi0f.fsf@chateau.d.if> <19524.43056.507309.913955@yeti.mininet> <8639vefwkj.fsf@chateau.d.if> In-Reply-To: <8639vefwkj.fsf@chateau.d.if> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: domainFACTORY X-Originating-IP: 93.135.216.248 X-Df-Sender: 472582 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Emacs splash screen went to textmode only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:26:10 -0000 Quoting Ashish SHUKLA : > Can you please provide output of following: > > 1. "xrdb -q|grep '^Emacs'" from an terminal running in X11. > [markus@wutz /usr/home/markus]$ xrdb -q|grep '^Emacs' Emacs*font: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono-8 > 2. "(display-grayscale-p)" in *scratch* buffer in GNU Emacs running in X11. > (display-grayscale-p) t > 3. "system-configuration-options" in *scratch* buffer in GNU Emacs. > system-configuration-options " '--with-x-toolkit=gtk' '--x-libraries=/usr/local/lib' '--x-includes=/usr/local/include' '--prefix=/usr/local' '--mandir=/usr/local/man' '--infodir=/usr/local/info/' '--build=i386-portbld-freebsd8.0' 'build_alias=i386-portbld-freebsd8.0' 'CC=cc' 'CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing' 'LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib -lintl' 'CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include'" BTW I've first built the Emacs port, and after I realized there was that splash screen issue I installed the package instead, just in case I managed to misconfigure the build somehow. Didn't make a difference. > Thanks Thank you! Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 21:59:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E998A1065672 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:59:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rl001@pacbell.net) Received: from web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B066A8FC12 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 99936 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jul 2010 21:59:04 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pacbell.net; s=s1024; t=1279663144; bh=h7hRGG2en0J2lsKCPeh+WZu83e6kLnzPZGIYtkC+KZQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SRWBb/O3JaYkMetp555fnxZvsF+dvTCH+5okF3uQhD+5RfbEgderbo3NsNQcaKUjdGfAa+H4IweWCwzOAXt13ocbXT76TYfmdlN0/FWpFLNV6AMlODQzXu/sOTYyxlDKBNCOIG1WbsMMgjtYbyafls8srOcAzMG544hyR2zUmmY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vonjNjmjxM4i4GGn0OPYYgcAwWjxabWJkoUli+1oz34Dfi1BuHKeyAStr3VEwzNgCVyKM+DIHFDBCZg7I2YMDW5aoXRahSk2qdwlc5eouO7GePVNCWNqWl8OjoEzTQS7xyKJy2K4ZCRSE9pkn5C9p1lrM3YGFMsjq3UAl/hp8RA=; Message-ID: <117437.98621.qm@web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: KYXyqKkVM1lcnRowQFncc1U7vPYBCzu_mw30De_..un2YMQ cwEJXYaqhu2laGHuYGo5Br07UrxsNbMFFYJF2asxaZWCYk.Sl29EUapAraM4 urvtCFpIvSnXsHiKUf_pJiIsZvqVOyJCM7sQA.Dm5kpuMJoRmCaIoSUxmS5x DHxgreUxU3SvM4uBJyoZHaI.L9nTDuLsal5FPeabT7jsSKX.aFXz8FYK2FDE YoUr6e9p5IstIDvuMuXM3kZdxS3w7w6uO.BJe4jzisJIQYohwb9ag27Jv5zg 5EUbNdFBtKEekIsKFIVJ_SaZktNd5Xu1pUkZEiORpCCGONFURmsE0hIOi25Z rVBHLNRx8KLs- Received: from [71.139.197.167] by web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:59:04 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/420.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 References: <4c455351.iveHHylYsmZKh9Xe%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:59:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4c455351.iveHHylYsmZKh9Xe%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:59:05 -0000 Any ideas anyone ? I'm stuck. Cannot install FreeBSD on my computer. Every other OS besides FreeBSD boots up and installs. What else can I check? ________________________________ From: Thomas Mueller To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 12:42:09 AM Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " I had this problem trying to install FreeBSD on my old computer: Cx486DX2 CPU at 66 MHz; 20 MB RAM; 1.2 GB IDE hard drive; 2x Texel, now Plextor, CD-ROM on Trantor T130B SCSI (NCR5380 chip; no support in FreeBSD >= 3.0); Iomega Zip 250 on same SCSI card. That was in the days of FreeBSD 4.x. No such problem on my newer computer with FreeBSD 7.x and now 8.0. I wondered if this part had been revamped with FreeBSD 5.x. If you could boot a FreeBSD live file system, for which downloadable iso images are now available, you might be able to look at the sysinstall scripts, and after partitioning/disklabeling (bsdlabel), you might be able to newfs and make mount points, and untar the pieces (base.aa, base.ab, etc) onto the desired FreeBSD target slice. I've wondered why FreeBSD installation sets (base, etc, games, comp, man and others) are broken into pieces of 1392 KB each as opposed to each installation set in a single .tgz or .tbz (base.tgz, etc.tgz, comp.tgz, and others: that's how NetBSD does it). NetBSD installation CD also offers a utility shell (sh). With floppy disks and floppy drives showing their age, I wouldn't be able to get enough good floppy disks together to install FreeBSD from floppies, and I believe others would have the same problem. I never actually did this, so I can't be sure if I'd succeed: decidedly not user-friendly but might be interesting to try in a pinch. Tom _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 22:45:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17830106566B for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:45:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [204.109.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E906F8FC0A for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:45:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (client-86-31-3-93.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.31.3.93]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 458F75D42; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:45:44 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:46:07 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Rich Message-ID: <20100720234607.00002478@unknown> In-Reply-To: <117437.98621.qm@web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4c455351.iveHHylYsmZKh9Xe%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> <117437.98621.qm@web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:45:55 -0000 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Rich wrote: > Any ideas anyone ? I'm stuck. Cannot install FreeBSD on my computer. > Every other OS besides FreeBSD boots up and installs. What else can I > check? It looks like it's stopping/spinning at the section where it parses the slices/partitions. I don't know why it would be getting stuck there, though. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 23:38:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23CAF1065674 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21588FC14 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:38:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so8278624vws.13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:38:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cGFQdo0q/HApmvpVNSahY3K4ipCbJm2J1g1XP51+6x0=; b=NHMTjtnhC9+PDVxyJm4xj7NRQttaaNmILiD+N/YMYfdqPacnSJoEGBEHdBDSOYPQLM aZCUtHsFjLbZ2rLgKfPO51AsjGXkbLPrq/TCE+Jjc6uwLjo3PlwHRUp4fqr5WhYH1ahu JqbMLpVplPVyrrNUywjAEace/O/tkbwca6hYo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EYMN4WCZO0I0egEQPJiwHsFFvFUdJO8U2S9zaQjuaoS7lRUFuIrtBa1QghcAsgsP3L BBKP3Gvg9eFzrsu6hX2bybJZJFyr0DFjUW+N3tJrc843lTkFz5SYFj33xRRw32GFtXII QwC46PBtiDnGDaZzIP1fDX4lh0j3aatSKU2g8= Received: by 10.220.62.136 with SMTP id x8mr3911061vch.175.1279669100193; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:38:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v11sm17312802vbb.11.2010.07.20.16.38.17 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C463368.7000405@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:38:16 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Recommend ezjail.conf settings? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:38:23 -0000 Hi Ed, On 7/20/10 12:54 PM, Ed Flecko wrote: > Hi folks, > I'm looking at the ezjail.conf file, and it seems like SOME of the > settings might be mandatory, but they're all commented out. > > For example, the: > > # ezjail_mount_enable="YES" Uncommenting and setting to NO would disable mounting the /basejail, read-only bits. > # ezjail_devfs_enable="YES" > # ezjail_devfs_ruleset="devfsrules_jail" If you have specific devfs needs for the jail, you can enable a special rule. Have a look at devfs(8) and devfs.conf(5) if you need to modify this, though you probably won't need to. > # ezjail_procfs_enable="YES" Disabling this will disable procfs(5). I recommend this one if you don't need procfs(5). > # ezjail_fdescfs_enable="YES" > Similarly to procfs above. I haven't found any reason to disable this. > should be uncommented because they're "Default options for newly > created jails", right? > Correct, they are enabled by default, and show the default value. > Are there any of the other settings I might want to consider enabling? > Depends on what your usage needs are. :) Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 00:45:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616F21065673 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:45:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rl001@pacbell.net) Received: from web81106.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81106.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 18F258FC0C for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:45:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 87058 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jul 2010 00:45:37 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pacbell.net; s=s1024; t=1279673137; bh=IzhTLMuOiGid7ogqV31o8wmKq24jo5rPzKf0tQZG+Ns=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cg3vk1SII+CVOgVkn65mmlhk8bYiL992//uUye7HIeBndMIHe8qJqV+FUgmi3zDgXG+YwdmMM1nmaY9++q6xsrpsUqwduQ9kr8wXOHNGfna4GuVEXrnM2OUcosbXlIPV/tH7pu/0YQuSNzv05XOg1R2s3iSqkToofGgdqo7uO6g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bbnbDmIwWhHW9/G80Lr77U4L6qsPIavXCW+o65iFYY8DmGKnAG+eCFKu2PyQqPLQ2Q4bslzSUrcTpO77e4lAhSYqIEk31dyBAtq7rdU/tJTzmI5e4tyDRsG/M0zmEoGA1AhT47T3HLgbNYxmJYCAr+j42vLgQivsj6OU1jNwKLU=; Message-ID: <531780.86508.qm@web81106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: o5PK2RgVM1lClislPj80mK7VXnW45VcKaZ_ePg7xCWVEcIV qKNzQ7Ho1IrIBJfQvLYtXfd137ZYuklXeneqAy_F6C3ofLCKnX32LanI3m60 FOXzKva11d5I_zRYsPo6pD9ZhFiW58Y6VZswp1d151jsFAxCcroFObKwnSlY 5Kc1nISIL_MhHAVa9BDjC6AVPjvD7c5vL5kb47m52bFu6AVwd8HB.F0JNe.z v3Ydq9_AuOa0y2occdevABfw8lTjToIdDjsTqmZI6A2URp3hL4TV8GwaaEhE .X75nPw-- Received: from [71.139.197.167] by web81106.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:45:37 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/420.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 References: <4c455351.iveHHylYsmZKh9Xe%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> <117437.98621.qm@web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:45:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich To: Andrew Gould In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:45:39 -0000 Yes I have, that's not it. It's very frustrating because every CD I can find boots up except the FreeBSD CD. If it's not a bad drive nobody seems to know what else it could be. It's deeper than that. Something in the FreeBSD code. Isn't there a developer somewhere that can tell me what his code is doing? ________________________________ From: Andrew Gould To: Rich Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 3:52:21 PM Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Rich wrote: > Any ideas anyone ? I'm stuck. Cannot install FreeBSD on my computer. Every >other > OS besides FreeBSD boots up and installs. What else can I check? > ________________________________ Have you tried booting up with ACPI disabled? Best of luck, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 03:19:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02F2106564A for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wahjava@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE4A8FC08 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:19:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk7 with SMTP id 7so2351426pzk.13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:19:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:received:from:to:cc :subject:organization:references:x-face:x-uptime:x-url :x-operating-system:x-openpgp-id:x-openpgp-fingerprint:x-mailer :x-mail-morse:x-attribution:organisation:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:face:mime-version:content-type; bh=eOxOrEP0f69VLienCmb3H5Kg52yh23BvtlLfPDmltZs=; b=T6FUM7x3p7UJo4Gdx9UgDpO35CsrKUyvEIisbES8z0d9pcy4sQFqsDEOHZVY8WRJGc xIRLWN70wnN5SK2UXH7AhTgtEYrZsrzYQjv8ImhoVPA+Pq/KwRR4/hwX/4QlGdeIwwjK 6AWX9Q9GjrApiqFfMMMIwCawVCYkj20m2mtVU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:x-face:x-uptime :x-url:x-operating-system:x-openpgp-id:x-openpgp-fingerprint :x-mailer:x-mail-morse:x-attribution:organisation:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:face:mime-version:content-type; b=FK2GBr77hz6mqTaevbogrGdMmplGZdBTo9rlN1q19ozWCwf8bh9HqUmq+xlhG9YSa9 1s+PayB39F2Dd4+7+TkuigCSg0/ERWIXwlj58rYHa1fXwY+rQrzsyQsuq98lCcvQ2Ql4 s06gdUuJc/TxXjkYat06TAbWk31GE1BupSWMk= Received: by 10.142.204.17 with SMTP id b17mr10357099wfg.71.1279682348351; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chateau.d.if ([122.163.155.4]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c16sm19102810rvn.13.2010.07.20.20.19.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Ashish SHUKLA Received: from chateau.d.if (chateau.d.if [IPv6:::1]) by chateau.d.if (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A064AFC3; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:49:00 +0530 (IST) From: ashish@FreeBSD.org (Ashish SHUKLA) To: Markus Hoenicka Organization: The FreeBSD Project References: <19523.21705.648520.937010@yeti.mininet> <86eif0xi0f.fsf@chateau.d.if> <19524.43056.507309.913955@yeti.mininet> <8639vefwkj.fsf@chateau.d.if> <20100720232608.20822abt0h7wwj28@webmail.df.eu> X-Face: )vGQ9yK7Y$Flebu1C>(B\gYBm)[$zfKM+p&TT[[JWl6:]S>cc$%-z7-`46Zf0B*syL.C]oCq[upTG~zuS0.$"_%)|Q@$hA=9{3l{%u^h3jJ^Zl; t7 X-Uptime: 8:43AM up 56 mins, 5 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.04, 0.07 X-URL: http://762e5e74.wordpress.com/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p4/amd64 X-OpenPGP-ID: E74FA4B0 X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: F682 CDCC 39DC 0FEA E116 20B6 C746 CFA9 E74F A4B0 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.13 X-Mail-Morse: .-- .- .... .--- .- ...- .- .--.-. --. -- .- .. .-.. .-.-.- -.-. --- -- X-Attribution: =?utf-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3?= Organisation: The FreeBSD Project Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:48:59 +0530 In-Reply-To: <20100720232608.20822abt0h7wwj28@webmail.df.eu> (Markus Hoenicka's message of "Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:26:08 +0200") Message-ID: <86eiexplng.fsf@chateau.d.if> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJ1BMVEWpqal/f39tbW1jY2Md HR2goKCenp6UlJROTk7////9/f35+fnT09ORJdieAAACVklEQVQ4jXXUP2vbQBQA8AvUTkgz5OzY Z0iGWhpS6BSrkECn0mvx0MEJ6AjtYrfoBCVDlD8naJYmNlRfwZq8+mkKlIZaGpJSYmP7Q/XkJDrJ Td8i/H68u3vHPaPufwLdf32AMA4A6GcAgvAamY1pOJiDIFqicTwLswDhfr3uxfFtkAY/GFHPMwzD 8zpnACmIOnE6js7rQb+v4NJrG9od0C+QgpHMy5jBewV+UDSMWiw1Y4fWfyV7+NGFzDsYa3pth9LJ Q4XvXxFHcJRvHOmygn5NAEabnDcQQguarnfoiwSCJ99jmKKcphsZONmWsDK9Ro7cvZOCtQdg8nje egLhc2LNlkLmsezzTFUUy5w18ocox/f0LaLgJy0zO75zk+9pp85GAj36xjqhdI0y3tq2m4dqqcWX zQWBTz8L1irvolXV4J+3q7eCDgVnttjNq6X8H+9KOZsuNk1uCzx8pSp+E9HImfJOTLdcGqo+YKnG EIovizkEn48V7BO+ch2DXcD4ENSpWiU+q8hjjbgTBZCXnZtyj0Ws4Q1Q0B2WXFtYZo65Bbyeeldw RS6qFueM80LlLA29YlVwGRYvFD+kwI/0O+A2PlpOP9GwslUVciHuYGechuBTp922YiDZCrghTknm XSyOM+D3aoRZlo0Jb42zY7DN4p2x4AeZ+QAYutx1sHwTHzMT5cMNduQ9yW3GczN4KZ86kb0c9O8T yXDeFqpl2fryPEAYGXIlezAPXYh2NgVr/gvdoHIuDwuPwOhcWE8f8mmICq41eATkn8x0kuRTIKcB wE9+/QUtiiAnYcaN7wAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Emacs splash screen went to textmode only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:19:10 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Markus Hoenicka writes: > Quoting Ashish SHUKLA : >> Can you please provide output of following: >>=20 >> 1. "xrdb -q|grep '^Emacs'" from an terminal running in X11. >>=20 > [markus@wutz /usr/home/markus]$ xrdb -q|grep '^Emacs' > Emacs*font: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono-8 >> 2. "(display-grayscale-p)" in *scratch* buffer in GNU Emacs running in X= 11. >>=20 > (display-grayscale-p) > t And please also evaluate following functions in Emacs (in X11) and paste th= eir output: (use-fancy-splash-screens-p) (display-graphic-p) (display-color-p) (image-type-available-p 'xpm) (image-type-available-p 'xbm) >> 3. "system-configuration-options" in *scratch* buffer in GNU Emacs. >>=20 > system-configuration-options > " '--with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk' '--x-libraries=3D/usr/local/lib' > --x-includes=3D/usr/local/include' '--prefix=3D/usr/local' > --mandir=3D/usr/local/man' '--infodir=3D/usr/local/info/' > --build=3Di386-portbld-freebsd8.0' > build_alias=3Di386-portbld-freebsd8.0' 'CC=3Dcc' 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 -pipe > -fno-strict-aliasing' 'LDFLAGS=3D-L/usr/local/lib -lintl' > CPPFLAGS=3D-I/usr/local/include'" configuration flags look fine to me. > BTW I've first built the Emacs port, and after I realized there was > that splash screen issue I installed the package instead, just in case > I managed to misconfigure the build somehow. Didn't make a difference. Thanks =2D-=20 Ashish SHUKLA | GPG: F682 CDCC 39DC 0FEA E116 20B6 C746 CFA9 E74F A4B0 freebsd.org!ashish | http://people.freebsd.org/~ashish/ =E2=80=9CProgress doesn't come from early risers =E2=80=93 progress is made= by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things.=E2=80=9D (Robert A. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 05:55:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D44F1065677 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 05:55:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C89E8FC1D for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 05:55:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk7 with SMTP id 7so3752792qyk.13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:55:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=CI9+TasuEjsjH8FZCxxRcriC4tUmjN993K15pi6ZmpU=; b=d0io6WTpiH3s9LjRgL7/2qO7kTH7Vd7r96uqaBwHXq7Q/+xsKGtz/5cuS5JoxpzntQ P2DnOkYt1ZigXe2xBcCqjctDQdE/xjM0KQdJx1ploao1r5ZCNbGLhmcwRbwZiTirAayN oQZ/YOx20BnEmKT/NqUW8eZtzICpGOx0QmIwk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uaGE/iy4CVsfGNMjs5GL1G+Ui0bkx8Yx8hAprGDjdPuWIXmoWf43/em+gvFWm+A8zt 84Bg4hQAEaWCKxYY4svBJBr4JbxQYpaRZktq2x6CUFI9ol/Q7lxcbivxI0wf9tUSuyby nqCOgBpRyn0oZqqWViVGco8JvrP0frX+Dwqj4= Received: by 10.224.58.101 with SMTP id f37mr6582445qah.158.1279691704275; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:55:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.183.211 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:54:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100720165003.42ce7fc7@scorpio> References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> <20100720093328.4f1bd5d0@scorpio> <20100720094609.02f88f0baryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> <20100720165003.42ce7fc7@scorpio> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:54:44 +0300 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 05:55:06 -0000 On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Jerry wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:03:55 +0300 > Odhiambo Washington articulated: > > >> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman >> wrote: >> > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:33:28 -0400 >> > Jerry wrote: >> > >> >> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:26:44 -0400 >> >> Aryeh M. Friedman articulated: >> >> >> >> > I am a consultant and was retained by my client to setup qmail or >> >> > exim on a VPS running 8.0-STABLE (i386). After setting up the DNS >> >> > (A record and MX record) we have been unable to send or receive >> >> > mail. The client has/had a working script for installing qmail on >> >> > 7.1-STABLE but it seems to not work on 8.0-STABLE. They are using >> >> > the same VPS provider who this 7.1-STABLE install script worked >> >> > under. I have tried everything I can think of to make it work >> >> > including asking obvious questions on -questions@. >> >> > >> >> > I informed the client that the task is likely beyond me capabilitie= s >> >> > but I would help recruit someone who would be able to do it at a >> >> > reasonable fee paid to them (I am acting as a no cost middle man on >> >> > this [I am helping the client for free since I was unable to get it >> >> > done]). >> >> > >> >> > Please send any ideas and/or offers to do the job >> >> >> >> I would seriously suggest that you consider installing Postfix. It is >> >> in the ports tree, is well maintained and works out of the box. The >> >> Postfix forum will be glad to give you any advice you need for settin= g >> >> up and securing your mail server. Qmail is no longer supported by its >> >> author and can be a nightmare to maintain. >> >> >> > >> > We had also tried sendmail and couldn't get that working either so I >> > suspect it is a general config issue not a MTA one. =C2=A0(I have set >> > sendmail up about 30 times in the past so I know a little bit about it= ) >> >> Exim is a very good choice. Forget the Postfix suggestions. It's >> Sendmail's brother:-) > > At least Postfix is fully RFC compliant, as opposed to Exim. > > SEE: RFC 2034 (SMTP enhanced status codes), RFC 3461-4 (delivery status > notifications), RFC 1652 (8-bit MIME including 8->7bit conversion) > among others. I doubt anyone makes a choice on an MTA (or any other software) based on it's RFC-compliance. In my experience, it's normally boils down to: 1. It has the features that I want 2. I can swim with it in times of toruble --=20 Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 -- Lucky Dube From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 06:38:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408F91065675 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 06:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EFF8FC0A for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 06:38:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so8262197iwn.13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:38:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=MBgYRp5SChCjwsszFPIcE3H1suVdBGtUdmijpwqxlVA=; b=mYUFA/8Nj68EB32p8nWdc7rnS04gUm69CJQAJj9qrZdHTxTY5fSGPjZm1TMF6noaT6 urraJ9s0Yz5QkoL+uMe4Lc6kT6dwO6FD5wwfNMyT6WkhHAIGTuYaEUPqy9bRht/xD2Ab zqnzSfKkWL8VOEKQ2CckAbtoMWyE58D3I+dZQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=x53CNPYxfe/S1ARRzSc2WPXi8OS+UGTznDZZiEbMDLLb8+IV5+f1onRri7T7c/3iR5 hyNcsA89CogFlsEpvcqTO3asUr2wMD8DeeoEjvKQQqWMPfp5GhhFovto8qNm1El1LKFU nXo9zVf72ZOnOUUR+aKJYN+ScnfpvEHmjVGgI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.166.139 with SMTP id m11mr8360638iby.136.1279694314427; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.180.135 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:38:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> <20100720093328.4f1bd5d0@scorpio> <20100720094609.02f88f0baryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> <20100720165003.42ce7fc7@scorpio> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:38:34 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Odhiambo Washington Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 06:38:35 -0000 On 7/20/10, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Jerry wrote: >> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:03:55 +0300 >> Odhiambo Washington articulated: >> >> >>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman >>> wrote: >>> > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:33:28 -0400 >>> > Jerry wrote: >>> > >>> >> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:26:44 -0400 >>> >> Aryeh M. Friedman articulated: >>> >> >>> >> > I am a consultant and was retained by my client to setup qmail or >>> >> > exim on a VPS running 8.0-STABLE (i386). After setting up the DNS >>> >> > (A record and MX record) we have been unable to send or receive >>> >> > mail. The client has/had a working script for installing qmail on >>> >> > 7.1-STABLE but it seems to not work on 8.0-STABLE. They are using >>> >> > the same VPS provider who this 7.1-STABLE install script worked >>> >> > under. I have tried everything I can think of to make it work >>> >> > including asking obvious questions on -questions@. >>> >> > >>> >> > I informed the client that the task is likely beyond me capabilities >>> >> > but I would help recruit someone who would be able to do it at a >>> >> > reasonable fee paid to them (I am acting as a no cost middle man on >>> >> > this [I am helping the client for free since I was unable to get it >>> >> > done]). >>> >> > >>> >> > Please send any ideas and/or offers to do the job >>> >> >>> >> I would seriously suggest that you consider installing Postfix. It is >>> >> in the ports tree, is well maintained and works out of the box. The >>> >> Postfix forum will be glad to give you any advice you need for setting >>> >> up and securing your mail server. Qmail is no longer supported by its >>> >> author and can be a nightmare to maintain. >>> >> >>> > >>> > We had also tried sendmail and couldn't get that working either so I >>> > suspect it is a general config issue not a MTA one. (I have set >>> > sendmail up about 30 times in the past so I know a little bit about it) >>> >>> Exim is a very good choice. Forget the Postfix suggestions. It's >>> Sendmail's brother:-) >> >> At least Postfix is fully RFC compliant, as opposed to Exim. >> >> SEE: RFC 2034 (SMTP enhanced status codes), RFC 3461-4 (delivery status >> notifications), RFC 1652 (8-bit MIME including 8->7bit conversion) >> among others. > > I doubt anyone makes a choice on an MTA (or any other software) based > on it's RFC-compliance. > In my experience, it's normally boils down to: > > 1. It has the features that I want > 2. I can swim with it in times of toruble I for one like to know that it is RFC compliant. it's a reason RFCs are made, so there can be standardization... So yes, I do choose based on compliance. (anyone use Firefox over IE at work because Firefox "works better"?) "Did you get my email?" "no, but i get everyone elses, let's check the logs and find out why" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 08:01:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3D410656EB for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:01:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 533C68FC28 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:01:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6L81R6m051285 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 01:01:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4C46A956.3080700@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 01:01:26 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100708 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Are kernel stress test results displayed online? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:01:27 -0000 Before one of the releases, I remember, kernel stress tests results were online. Now I can't find them. Are they run? (I guess they must be.) Particularly would be interesting to see tests for FreeBSD 8.1-RC2, FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE and FreeBSD-9.0. Also does stress test only cover kernel or device drivers as well? Thanks, Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 09:04:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6D91065674 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:04:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6727@bellsouth.net) Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [207.115.11.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6F38FC19 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:04:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mueller6722.bellsouth.net (adsl-147-182-222.sdf.bellsouth.net[72.147.182.222]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with SMTP id <20100721090438H0100dms09e>; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:04:38 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [72.147.182.222] Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:04:53 +0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4c46b835.qHM+B55tzs4Jv8Wu%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:04:40 -0000 > Any ideas anyone ? I'm stuck. Cannot install FreeBSD on my computer. Every other > OS besides FreeBSD boots up and installs. What else can I check? I offered my admittedly cumbersome force-fitting suggestion. Maybe start with a minimal installation, possibly base and etc only, or as little as possible to get something to start with. If this can be booted, then continue with sysinstall from the hard drive with the downloaded FreeBSD sets on CD or an msdos/vfat partition. But then if you can untar the base and etc sets in accordance with the sysinstall scripts, the same could be done with the other installation sets. Possibly, booting a live-file-system FreeBSD CD, you could have the installation CD image on an msdos/vfat partition, and mdconfig and mount that. You could bsdlabel, newfs, and hopefully be able to proceed from there. I wonder if FreeBSD is the only OS with "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " Nothing like this occurs in NetBSD or Linux; I've also installed various DOSes (MS-DOS 4.01 and upgrade to 5; DR-DOS 7.03 and FreeDOS; OS/2 1.3 through (Warp) 4) although MS-DOS 4.01 (back in 1990) and OS/2 had their own problems. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 09:08:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88BE106566C for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:08:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339B38FC1B for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so3699383fxm.13 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:08:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TxFNLBnx8n7to4bdF/erxU0eD3ocjn8owEnJzsx7jno=; b=wcWFVfFx8v8AF2tutq9MU6pH7vb394eXKErfkuLPM5/Hf4rq1oOohd9JlsNMHCbSSH 6+mVJv+KapF63HODpSYnWXl+2cDLl8iqdbOf4JtHNwPAhXf3ugLbnSAw5q+QlcMitgmT EmmSkfkEiNSDj/8XFw8+Zq4qcmy9HPJTmGHoY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vy8cbGY1voOKHkAV24MHtJy6IDG6GOnKaM532Wnr8Z67EJPwATuLw82J6QhUCy8adx RG/B1nc/tyRGeq7QigyOGl0vq/Mb/FfJcrz/Njmx22ow2A2B1x+5itOzvhHOUx4AFxXz XtyR5cyIqccNcwM0NVDpURf1xXWZ+oe5RULzY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.167.1 with SMTP id d1mr575970hbe.43.1279703328060; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.160.201 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:08:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100720163651.0daf727d@scorpio> References: <4C452644.6060508@comclark.com> <20100720134205.3168f4f1@scorpio> <4C45EA1C.6070601@comclark.com> <20100720153209.74ec26e6@scorpio> <4C45FCE1.7010006@comclark.com> <20100720163651.0daf727d@scorpio> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:08:47 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: new jail utility is available. announcement. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:08:49 -0000 On 20 July 2010 21:36, Jerry wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:45:37 +0800 > Aiza articulated: > > > > There has been the normal pre RELEASE freeze on since xmas, that is why > > no port activity is occurring right now. > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D148777 > > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 02:47:18 GMT > > It was only just submitted. I would hardly expect it to be committed > yet. > > By the way, there has been a great deal of port activity since > Christmas. > > -- > Jerry =E2=9C=8C > FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net > > Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. > Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. > __________________________________________________________________ > > For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, > and wrong. > > H. L. Mencken > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Anyone tried using it yet? Not much info out there apart from the announcments it seems. In my quick play with it this morning, it didnt seem to be binding the ips to the jails. Not sure if you are supposed to have th= e ip bound to the box before you use the jail. Would make sense if you did have to, but it would be nice if the util added it for you or at least prompted you if it wasnt there. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 09:15:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB651065675 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:15:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CDA8FC20 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman.lon.namesco.net (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6L9FP7F070146 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:15:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C46BAAD.5000507@unsane.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:15:25 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C452644.6060508@comclark.com> <20100720134205.3168f4f1@scorpio> <4C45EA1C.6070601@comclark.com> <20100720153209.74ec26e6@scorpio> <4C45FCE1.7010006@comclark.com> <20100720163651.0daf727d@scorpio> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: new jail utility is available. announcement. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:15:28 -0000 On 21/07/2010 10:08, krad wrote: > > Anyone tried using it yet? Not much info out there apart from the > announcments it seems. In my quick play with it this morning, it didnt seem > to be binding the ips to the jails. Not sure if you are supposed to have the > ip bound to the box before you use the jail. Would make sense if you did > have to, but it would be nice if the util added it for you or at least > prompted you if it wasnt there. > Not yet, when I have a spare box I might, although I quite like using zfs for jails as you can limit the disk usage dynamically per zfs filesystem and I didnt see any support there yet, even basic support like there is with ezjail would be nice. Vince > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 09:20:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F9A1065698 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:20:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out9.libero.it (cp-out9.libero.it [212.52.84.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFAD88FC19 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:20:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from soth.ventu (151.51.33.62) by cp-out9.libero.it (8.5.107) id 4C4029D100DE0371 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:20:15 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6L9KEvB081650 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:20:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4C46BBCE.2080601@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:20:14 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; it-IT; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100708 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Strange filesystem problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:20:17 -0000 Hello. I'm experiencing a strange problem on a 7.2p8/i386 box. This is not critical, since I have a workaround, but it's annoying and I'm also curious :-) Let's say I have directory "foo"; under "foo" I have "bar" which keeps thousands of files (in several subdirectories). I do: %cd /xyzzy/foo %pwd xyzzy/foo %rm -fR bar %pwd pwd: .: Permission denied %cd .. %cd foo %pwd xyzzy/foo This is a local UFS filesystem, so it shouldn't be a network problem; no error shows up in the logs; in "bar" I don't have any symlink or special node, only plain files and directories. What should I check? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 09:21:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45791106564A for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:21:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E438FC17 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so3706108fxm.13 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:21:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=LcLzeSOnMyYSXgQGoNG9YytA2J237AZlfb+pjwci0CY=; b=MwUs+K0hLxkXPJmQlXwNrhFD6EuIofUWWpIxhRzTC1xER/buIeUiMQ9Nrqdt2jHTuU ZZ/NhL4dRbFYJdKmK7knHgyd+w1MOlqZgdCEaYpza040liXkDL46HO1t3144Lp5ykgqA Ej1yv3/tu/0Mq9kb/cce9oaS5hhJnpceKL7cI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=hdosEiZOlCqTo/uZmHCpp91wlDoT2PVo+v7mCCBYqha69oGtlifo+pk2YYMG6nHXGN fVTDg7MEMqU+4EU7/88quS744nWkE8LLY7cotrFMmhCrOZLZfh0Fl8f8ywRk3XWssluU D3xljTNhgDWPyCUKoIh9w2nOXfuQNh2TyGSXM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.193.8 with SMTP id g8mr577157hbi.21.1279704087476; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.160.201 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:21:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C46BAAD.5000507@unsane.co.uk> References: <4C452644.6060508@comclark.com> <20100720134205.3168f4f1@scorpio> <4C45EA1C.6070601@comclark.com> <20100720153209.74ec26e6@scorpio> <4C45FCE1.7010006@comclark.com> <20100720163651.0daf727d@scorpio> <4C46BAAD.5000507@unsane.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:21:27 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Vincent Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new jail utility is available. announcement. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:21:29 -0000 On 21 July 2010 10:15, Vincent Hoffman wrote: > On 21/07/2010 10:08, krad wrote: > > > > Anyone tried using it yet? Not much info out there apart from the > > announcments it seems. In my quick play with it this morning, it didnt > seem > > to be binding the ips to the jails. Not sure if you are supposed to have > the > > ip bound to the box before you use the jail. Would make sense if you did > > have to, but it would be nice if the util added it for you or at least > > prompted you if it wasnt there. > > > Not yet, when I have a spare box I might, although I quite like using > zfs for jails as you can limit the disk usage dynamically per zfs > filesystem and I didnt see any support there yet, even basic support > like there is with ezjail would be nice. > > Vince > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > i have only done preliminary tinkering and it looks ok so far (i did have to pre bind the jail ip). Might have to find a box to put freebsd 9 on and see how it works with the network stack virtualization. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 09:40:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D671065702 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:40:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A9628FC1D for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:40:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.68]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:40:50 -0700 Message-ID: <4C46C09D.4090901@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:40:45 +0800 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: krad References: <4C452644.6060508@comclark.com> <20100720134205.3168f4f1@scorpio> <4C45EA1C.6070601@comclark.com> <20100720153209.74ec26e6@scorpio> <4C45FCE1.7010006@comclark.com> <20100720163651.0daf727d@scorpio> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jul 2010 09:40:50.0526 (UTC) FILETIME=[CDFDFFE0:01CB28B8] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new jail utility is available. announcement. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:40:50 -0000 krad wrote: > > Anyone tried using it yet? Not much info out there apart from the > announcments it seems. In my quick play with it this morning, it didnt seem > to be binding the ips to the jails. Not sure if you are supposed to have the > ip bound to the box before you use the jail. Would make sense if you did > have to, but it would be nice if the util added it for you or at least > prompted you if it wasnt there. Maybe you should try the -n option on the create command or the -c option on the config option. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 09:46:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF637106567F for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:46:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B558FC24 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:46:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.68]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:46:55 -0700 Message-ID: <4C46C20B.9000602@comclark.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:46:51 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: krad References: <4C452644.6060508@comclark.com> <20100720134205.3168f4f1@scorpio> <4C45EA1C.6070601@comclark.com> <20100720153209.74ec26e6@scorpio> <4C45FCE1.7010006@comclark.com> <20100720163651.0daf727d@scorpio> <4C46BAAD.5000507@unsane.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jul 2010 09:46:56.0138 (UTC) FILETIME=[A7E9F6A0:01CB28B9] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Vincent Hoffman Subject: Re: new jail utility is available. announcement. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:46:55 -0000 > > i have only done preliminary tinkering and it looks ok so far (i did have to > pre bind the jail ip). Might have to find a box to put freebsd 9 on and see > how it works with the network stack virtualization. Please explain what you mean by pre-bind the jail ip address. I think you skipped over the create command -n option. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 09:52:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBFD1065673 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:52:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16D48FC1B for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:52:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.68]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:52:27 -0700 Message-ID: <4C46C356.6000101@comclark.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:52:22 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vincent Hoffman References: <4C452644.6060508@comclark.com> <20100720134205.3168f4f1@scorpio> <4C45EA1C.6070601@comclark.com> <20100720153209.74ec26e6@scorpio> <4C45FCE1.7010006@comclark.com> <20100720163651.0daf727d@scorpio> <4C46BAAD.5000507@unsane.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4C46BAAD.5000507@unsane.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jul 2010 09:52:28.0249 (UTC) FILETIME=[6DDE1490:01CB28BA] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new jail utility is available. announcement. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:52:30 -0000 > Not yet, when I have a spare box I might, although I quite like using > zfs for jails as you can limit the disk usage dynamically per zfs > filesystem and I didnt see any support there yet, even basic support > like there is with ezjail would be nice. > Zfs was left out because its over kill. Sparse image jails gives the same protection at a 10th of the overhead. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 10:13:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733811065675 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:13:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from zhhdzmsp-nwas16.bluewin.ch (nwas16.bluewin.ch [195.186.228.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0858D8FC0A for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:13:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [81.62.246.220] ([81.62.246.220:64411] helo=saturn.pcs.ms) by zhhdzmsp-nwas16.bluewin.ch (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.45 r()) with ESMTP id 07/4B-14979-818C64C4; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:13:16 +0000 Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6L8btaf039005 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:37:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o6L8btMt039004; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:37:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:37:54 +0200 From: Martin Schweizer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100721083754.GA38999@saturn.pcs.ms> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Unabel to download Java Patch from http://www.eyesbeyond.com/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:13:17 -0000 Hello Since some days I tried to download the latest Java patch from http://www.eyesbeyond.com/. But the site is not reachable. I tried it from a europe and from us server but no luck. Do you have any ideas? Regards, -- Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 10:27:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176561065670 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972698FC1E for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:27:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so3742979fxm.13 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:27:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=qh/ebBpXTeIoBJn3ZLyajNKBVvS+33tZ0oGjjOfgA2w=; b=WP2P2R+JhoWvvp+wm77TyF+0cJ7GddgUhEi0peKKxcd6OJEwae2KitW+i0tKSZho7f 8/6NfUKf5wFlrvQ0RID2Ely9cTAtFLGRMmuaF4kg8PE4/jF/hOPSvDmz8KrExQ3JU0DE /TO7PAy9UW0RJzbZKXlifKQdvB6Au9NiN5p6I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=xYK9OK1J0h9pFJe0EGR6GGZuccVnucYRwDZrhh4ZqOruyjMhkp4kS7cR/xJ6WC/kQ1 7TsFHj6oSQZTkXo9eZ3ckaJH23iAGO786MQqJBpRDLh6WkxFKbWuLJLgqLY1dIii2h+d Yhbjgk2t8kZcg0+z9dZobSSBddfGC2H/LbcWI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.189.67 with SMTP id s3mr197572hbh.124.1279708076449; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.160.201 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:27:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C46C20B.9000602@comclark.com> References: <4C452644.6060508@comclark.com> <20100720134205.3168f4f1@scorpio> <4C45EA1C.6070601@comclark.com> <20100720153209.74ec26e6@scorpio> <4C45FCE1.7010006@comclark.com> <20100720163651.0daf727d@scorpio> <4C46BAAD.5000507@unsane.co.uk> <4C46C20B.9000602@comclark.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:27:56 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Aiza Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Vincent Hoffman Subject: Re: new jail utility is available. announcement. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:27:58 -0000 On 21 July 2010 10:46, Aiza wrote: > >> i have only done preliminary tinkering and it looks ok so far (i did have >> to >> pre bind the jail ip). Might have to find a box to put freebsd 9 on and >> see >> how it works with the network stack virtualization. >> > > Please explain what you mean by pre-bind the jail ip address. I think you > skipped over the create command -n option. > Thanks, doing the following works nicely qjail create -I -i -s 10m -n age0 test 192.168.210.86 Might be worth updating the create examples as the -n option isnt mentioned there, and as a result I can see this same issue cropping up a lot in the future. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 10:33:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61809106566B for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:33:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05B48FC1D for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:33:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so2838499wwf.1 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:33:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=EGgWUHjCjSKH0slWG8hEYFmCRxADVTOdUowPU3dqzlA=; b=gHYZfS2zMUjNUEqeUdSu4VYMN1LcpcIkjkdAmQTXwteE8rNMeVlrItAIS3ryNn+iDc OEAnu5c+Ex/t2FiTuPosgnvLLJ8kXxE5AE/T5ANLRQWdRFgK/b4EI8Ueb3osbRWkiR/o tPhoEdJzzjVoFMZbB2EMiUsF0V8cZxcGg9gV0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=FwYxG+GhVXiULDnDgjxCx2IR/t63ySgIqQQkW+IqkYyWb0IgQVjnGLQV5VLs4o74YC XZ0ky53VdJ+XBXmgg+Op4eweRNnOc1ddtCbvg+2hn3Tk+IJ7h5vbf8Wj+CZ+puOOHAlG LSgz2Uj57KQTy3h/uj+BLbte6ou9ZulrCIKdE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.170.72 with SMTP id o50mr6568416wel.69.1279708393538; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.171.10 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:33:13 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Yuri Subject: Re: Are kernel stress test results displayed online? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:33:15 -0000 Yuri wrote: >Before one of the releases, I remember, kernel stress tests results were >online. >Now I can't find them. > >Are they run? (I guess they must be.) >Particularly would be interesting to see tests for FreeBSD 8.1-RC2, >FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE and FreeBSD-9.0. >Also does stress test only cover kernel or device drivers as well? I don't know about the tests that are conducted as part of the release engineering process, but there are links to some tests at: http://people.freebsd.org/~pho/stress/index.html I don't know how useful these will be -- as noted on the above page, the intended audience is kernel developers, many of the tests are associated with experimental kernel patches, the test results are rarely exactly reproducible, and the tests only cover certain kernel subsystems. The test source code is available, so you could run your own tests if you wanted. You could also look at the tests in /usr/src/tools/regression, or some of the benchmarks and tests in Ports. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 10:56:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78797106566C for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:56:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@g8kbv.demon.co.uk) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6AF8FC13 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dyn-62-56-94-96.dslaccess.co.uk ([62.56.94.96] helo=[192.168.33.1]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtpa (AUTH g8kbv) (Exim 4.69) id 1ObWyo-0000Gv-cA; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:56:50 +0000 From: "Dave" To: Bruce Cran Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:56:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4C46E082.2568.4BA5F993@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20100720234607.00002478@unknown> References: <4c455351.iveHHylYsmZKh9Xe%mueller6727@bellsouth.net>, <117437.98621.qm@web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <20100720234607.00002478@unknown> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:56:52 -0000 On 20 Jul 2010 at 23:46, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:59:04 -0700 (PDT) > Rich wrote: > > > Any ideas anyone ? I'm stuck. Cannot install FreeBSD on my computer. > > Every other OS besides FreeBSD boots up and installs. What else can > > I check? > > It looks like it's stopping/spinning at the section where it parses > the slices/partitions. I don't know why it would be getting stuck > there, though. > > -- > Bruce Cran > Hi, I'm not a developer (of OS's at least) but from that DEBUG: list, it almost looks like it thinks it can see just about every hardware device it knows about, existing or not, and is trying to use them all. I know someone mentioned memory tests, but I didn't see what results they came up with, or how much memory you have. I do know however from my own frustrating experience in the past, that often some software will run just fine on bad memory, if the problems don't screw up the code or it's workspace. Where as other software will crash badly, making you think the program is bad. The same is sadly true of hard disk errors too! Did you run a recent memtest86 (self boot CD) and let it do several "Full" passes (can take many many hours per pass if you have lots of ram! And or a not so fast CPU) ? Just idle musings. Dave B. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 11:08:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5349A1065679 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:08:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C899C8FC22 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:08:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so89449bwz.13 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 04:08:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=2F7vCgQSnQ+GtdiDWA6kzvmjhHle01ZYkU2aJPd5Qyg=; b=HJC4BkPGc6IPbLIIuo5z0vTbSDfLRDN5VPofLCphsO/nawVhcjw8Cqbr4EtdnV8y0s S1r7n6pGXqh/hEkn6asz22OfQSquC2MTLsU9o5NE/3jVccqnS23YZjclb+j3MfdLWR+p oln5wJix6xpruzOfEXnlNBs1b+vZVsaZGVt28= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=ovYgdK2iEHpqtVJJTy5nCt3AqDq7tGfWDPpvtphG6KK+Fqkm/WwMkWtRgo/dlRxqLb 5MH39QAX26L+yA417yItdVzYXgPIpDOwjj8BlYIErHBWJvqze1UyG27JDePHSEYNGiMw Kc0fS5LQU9C5ObbDFUNLjiVXp2unvGsq++l1g= Received: by 10.204.25.145 with SMTP id z17mr6072805bkb.104.1279710518388; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 04:08:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.76.68 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 04:08:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C46C356.6000101@comclark.com> References: <4C452644.6060508@comclark.com> <20100720134205.3168f4f1@scorpio> <4C45EA1C.6070601@comclark.com> <20100720153209.74ec26e6@scorpio> <4C45FCE1.7010006@comclark.com> <20100720163651.0daf727d@scorpio> <4C46BAAD.5000507@unsane.co.uk> <4C46C356.6000101@comclark.com> From: Valentin Bud Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:08:18 +0300 Message-ID: To: Aiza Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Vincent Hoffman Subject: Re: new jail utility is available. announcement. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:08:40 -0000 On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Aiza wrote: > > Not yet, when I have a spare box I might, although I quite like using >> zfs for jails as you can limit the disk usage dynamically per zfs >> filesystem and I didnt see any support there yet, even basic support >> like there is with ezjail would be nice. >> >> > Zfs was left out because its over kill. Sparse image jails gives the same > protection at a 10th of the overhead. > > Hello community, ZFS shouldn't be left out. Besides limiting the disk usage dynamically per zfs FS you have another big advantage - snapshots. Suppose you want to upgrade ports is a jail and something goes kaboom you just revert to the previous working snapshot. I agree you can copy the image back and forth but zfs snapshots are faster and not that space consuming. The layout that I plan to use is the following: storage/jails |>storage/jails/group1 | | | |>storage/jails/group1/jail1 | |>storage/jails/group1/jail2 | |>storage/jails/group2 | |> ... | Group can be any kind of characteristic you want to take into account regarding those jails (eg. group1 - mail servers, group2 - web servers, groupX - companyY, etc.). You can also go with more levels of depth but for me it's enough. This way if your server doesn't handle all the jails you have running, simply buy new hardware, install FBSD (or just copy the ZFS root container over to the new system) and migrate the jails over. I am waiting for network stack virtualization to come out and dreaming about live jails migration in the future of FBSD :). I would like you to reconsider ZFS support and thanks for qjail :). a great day, v -- network warrior From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 11:29:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99EF31065673 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [204.109.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C4F8FC26 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (client-86-31-3-93.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.31.3.93]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 698FA5D42; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:29:29 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:29:57 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: "Dave" Message-ID: <20100721122957.00005011@unknown> In-Reply-To: <4C46E082.2568.4BA5F993@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> References: <4c455351.iveHHylYsmZKh9Xe%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> <117437.98621.qm@web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100720234607.00002478@unknown> <4C46E082.2568.4BA5F993@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:29:40 -0000 On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:56:50 +0100 "Dave" wrote: > Hi, I'm not a developer (of OS's at least) but from that DEBUG: > list, it almost looks like it thinks it can see just about every > hardware device it knows about, existing or not, and is trying to > use them all. The debug output is saying that it can't open the vast majority of the devices it's trying. The device_names array just contains a list of all devices sysinstall knows about: for USB mass storage devices it tries to open da0-da15. I guess it's not been updated for devfs where it should see which device nodes actually exist - or, better, use geom to enumerate the devices. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 11:37:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15663106566C for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0CF8FC0A for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:37:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.68]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 21 Jul 2010 04:37:44 -0700 Message-ID: <4C46DC03.1030704@comclark.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:37:39 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Valentin Bud References: <4C452644.6060508@comclark.com> <20100720134205.3168f4f1@scorpio> <4C45EA1C.6070601@comclark.com> <20100720153209.74ec26e6@scorpio> <4C45FCE1.7010006@comclark.com> <20100720163651.0daf727d@scorpio> <4C46BAAD.5000507@unsane.co.uk> <4C46C356.6000101@comclark.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jul 2010 11:37:45.0198 (UTC) FILETIME=[231000E0:01CB28C9] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Vincent Hoffman Subject: Re: new jail utility is available. announcement. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:37:45 -0000 Valentin Bud wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Aiza wrote: > >> Not yet, when I have a spare box I might, although I quite like using >>> zfs for jails as you can limit the disk usage dynamically per zfs >>> filesystem and I didnt see any support there yet, even basic support >>> like there is with ezjail would be nice. >>> >>> >> Zfs was left out because its over kill. Sparse image jails gives the same >> protection at a 10th of the overhead. >> >> > Hello community, > > ZFS shouldn't be left out. Besides limiting the disk usage dynamically per > zfs FS > you have another big advantage - snapshots. Suppose you want to upgrade > ports > is a jail and something goes kaboom you just revert to the previous working > snapshot. > I agree you can copy the image back and forth but zfs snapshots are faster > and not > that space consuming. > > The layout that I plan to use is the following: > > storage/jails > |>storage/jails/group1 > | | > | > |>storage/jails/group1/jail1 > | > |>storage/jails/group1/jail2 > | > |>storage/jails/group2 > | |> ... > | > > Group can be any kind of characteristic you want to take into account > regarding > those jails (eg. group1 - mail servers, group2 - web servers, groupX - > companyY, etc.). > You can also go with more levels of depth but for me it's enough. > > This way if your server doesn't handle all the jails you have running, > simply > buy new hardware, install FBSD (or just copy the ZFS root container over to > the new > system) and migrate the jails over. > > I am waiting for network stack virtualization to come out and dreaming about > live jails > migration in the future of FBSD :). > > I would like you to reconsider ZFS support and thanks for qjail :). > > a great day, > v What you are doing behind the jail system back using zfs, qjail does with the -z zone option right up front. And the archive and restore of qjail jails is less than 3 seconds right now. How much faster does it need to be? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 12:00:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933E91065679 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:00:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ahamiltonwright@mta.ca) Received: from smtpy.mta.ca (smtpy.mta.ca [138.73.1.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A348FC2E for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [138.73.29.51] (port=49181 helo=qemg.org) by smtpy.mta.ca with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ObXyP-0002Lg-6f; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:00:29 -0300 Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:00:29 -0300 (ADT) From: "A. Wright" To: Andrea Venturoli In-Reply-To: <4C46BBCE.2080601@netfence.it> Message-ID: References: <4C46BBCE.2080601@netfence.it> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: ahamiltonwright@mta.ca Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Strange filesystem problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:00:31 -0000 On Wed, 21 Jul 2010, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Let's say I have directory "foo"; under "foo" I have "bar" which keeps > thousands of files (in several subdirectories). > > I do: > > %cd /xyzzy/foo > %pwd > xyzzy/foo > %rm -fR bar > %pwd > pwd: .: Permission denied At this point, I would suspect that you may have the UCHG flag set. What do: ls -lod /xyzzy/foo/bar and ls -lo /xyzzy/foo/bar say? Check the chflags(1) man page for some descriptions and also how to change/remove the flags if present. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 12:10:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C76B10657E4 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:10:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A62D88FC20 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so3801963fxm.13 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 05:10:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=t4Rusim2K5cl41FKfV5lkIalGctSeBS078YyZVpFeLo=; b=FgljwO8puhisKA2+9bXRnFHQDX/CIDC1ZTh2ng7BUXN5NXpX8EBouODny0/7+F3nHw K5P8Lhiei2JtErhaFvd2VIuhFLEu29e8n0juXC7kcIPPJ/PycMDnuSgFp2oxbpb0vxVK DUKgv/WACJSZmwhWLTgaAyH4d8hzN/fHlD8ZE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=r4v+D8iElGCtt2G05VLg2zZa7+v4uOCjfpk/6GyuLorHd65XInNEsc78Ejc2t6L/Pp Us+cF/vyBJ0qm6P0VZ/rWnlEqJKIImn/pEPZLbcaiREAChTLnzaQHChstOV9ZcXZYZLg 9pt3OUSNjCMFrwKBLaLDFPeZ9IR1K7LIjOS1k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.138.79 with SMTP id o15mr9750hbo.15.1279714231473; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 05:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.160.201 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 05:10:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C46DC03.1030704@comclark.com> References: <4C452644.6060508@comclark.com> <20100720134205.3168f4f1@scorpio> <4C45EA1C.6070601@comclark.com> <20100720153209.74ec26e6@scorpio> <4C45FCE1.7010006@comclark.com> <20100720163651.0daf727d@scorpio> <4C46BAAD.5000507@unsane.co.uk> <4C46C356.6000101@comclark.com> <4C46DC03.1030704@comclark.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:10:31 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Aiza Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Vincent Hoffman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Valentin Bud Subject: Re: new jail utility is available. announcement. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:10:33 -0000 On 21 July 2010 12:37, Aiza wrote: > Valentin Bud wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Aiza wrote: >> >> Not yet, when I have a spare box I might, although I quite like using >>> >>>> zfs for jails as you can limit the disk usage dynamically per zfs >>>> filesystem and I didnt see any support there yet, even basic support >>>> like there is with ezjail would be nice. >>>> >>>> >>>> Zfs was left out because its over kill. Sparse image jails gives the >>> same >>> protection at a 10th of the overhead. >>> >>> >>> Hello community, >> >> ZFS shouldn't be left out. Besides limiting the disk usage dynamically >> per >> zfs FS >> you have another big advantage - snapshots. Suppose you want to upgrade >> ports >> is a jail and something goes kaboom you just revert to the previous >> working >> snapshot. >> I agree you can copy the image back and forth but zfs snapshots are >> faster >> and not >> that space consuming. >> > That all depends on your deltas. We do hot backups (lock, flush, snap, unlock) of our oracle dbs on solaris with zfs snap shots. The do take up a lot of room but thats becasue we do a lot of writes gigs a day. > >> The layout that I plan to use is the following: >> >> storage/jails >> |>storage/jails/group1 >> | | >> | >> |>storage/jails/group1/jail1 >> | >> |>storage/jails/group1/jail2 >> | >> |>storage/jails/group2 >> | |> ... >> | >> >> Group can be any kind of characteristic you want to take into account >> regarding >> those jails (eg. group1 - mail servers, group2 - web servers, groupX - >> companyY, etc.). >> You can also go with more levels of depth but for me it's enough. >> >> This way if your server doesn't handle all the jails you have running, >> simply >> buy new hardware, install FBSD (or just copy the ZFS root container over >> to >> the new >> system) and migrate the jails over. >> >> I am waiting for network stack virtualization to come out and dreaming >> about >> live jails >> migration in the future of FBSD :). >> >> I would like you to reconsider ZFS support and thanks for qjail :). >> >> a great day, >> v >> > > What you are doing behind the jail system back using zfs, qjail does with > the -z zone option right up front. And the archive and restore of qjail > jails is less than 3 seconds right now. How much faster does it need to be? > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > that depends on how much data is in the jail surely. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 13:48:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12345106566C for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:48:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF7B8FC13 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:48:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so9140783vws.13 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 06:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.125.88 with SMTP id x24mr124944vcr.65.1279720105641; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 06:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e20sm1952354vcm.16.2010.07.21.06.48.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 21 Jul 2010 06:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0D653E54826 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:48:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:48:22 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100721094822.23e79671@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> <20100720093328.4f1bd5d0@scorpio> <20100720094609.02f88f0baryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> <20100720165003.42ce7fc7@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:48:27 -0000 On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:54:44 +0300 Odhiambo Washington articulated: > I doubt anyone makes a choice on an MTA (or any other software) based > on it's RFC-compliance. > In my experience, it's normally boils down to: > > 1. It has the features that I want > 2. I can swim with it in times of toruble Microsoft has been claiming for years that adherence to standards is not a requirement. While they are certainly entitled to their opinion, I would definitely disagree. A quick perusal of http://slashdot.org/ would tend to discredit your remark that, "doubt anyone makes a choice on an MTA (or any other software) based on it's RFC-compliance" statement. As always, selection of tools and their suitability to the task is left up to the end user. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ One man's constant is another man's variable. Alan J. Perlis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 14:37:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4181065673; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:37:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rehsack@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D7E8FC20; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:37:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so2001066wwe.31 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 07:37:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HjHiBU2IregCMznYsY9STnXNlBV6aqDSV/zdGW2yuos=; b=tLQ4O5M/EEsnpMN8bJOAG7cXCH1OJf2PsFZJ9lkWdGvOkTcLy46faCTnqdc0T/ZdIV Z/ajGDaVVOYSMSUrfzrLDpK95C+OrLjYq7NjXyBf79k6UcN3zFYwtwujnReyhCCrkZEY D62+UfTpHIsTEKSYZZwbEHf/U+CiuynoerU2g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XBKmPb9QGbu1TZ/+pFjkQQwkTmzBZ/jfZcswSyaXG6lYTLzGVkgDFeHDpjyhadFgQn 7Iyfc7ARFvQXemG/DLuthEaBV45cDxVwHiBuVNGM7V47VKiyWzL5C4iiuQ1F/augEyUH ClaWK6WkIK4DqwjBPTE204p8AbhtGvVXDUpwg= Received: by 10.227.129.12 with SMTP id m12mr254967wbs.102.1279723048989; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 07:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waldorf.muppets.liwing.de (p4FF87BF1.dip.t-dialin.net [79.248.123.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e31sm52464292wbe.17.2010.07.21.07.37.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 21 Jul 2010 07:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C470615.8030608@netbsd.org> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:37:09 +0000 From: Jens Rehsack User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100409 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Nelson References: <20100715172615.GC5485@dan.emsphone.com> <86tyo0qd19.fsf@chateau.d.if> <20100716043056.GF5485@dan.emsphone.com> <20100716150719.GG5485@dan.emsphone.com> <4C408744.3030409@netbsd.org> <20100716181316.GH5485@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20100716181316.GH5485@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Ashish SHUKLA , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: getpwent bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:37:30 -0000 On 07/16/10 18:13, Dan Nelson wrote: Hi Dan, > In the last episode (Jul 16), Jens Rehsack said: >> On 07/16/10 15:07, Dan Nelson wrote: >>> In the last episode (Jul 16), Jens Rehsack said: >>>> Could you please take a look to my other mail (getgrent related) - there >>>> seems another bug ... >>> >>> Do you have another one-liner that will reproduce it? A simple >>> "/usr/bin/getent group" doesn't return dupes for me. Oddly enough, the >>> *grent code doesn't use an internal counter, so the bug you found in >>> endpwent doesn't exist in endgrent (afaik; the nsswitch code isn't that >>> easy to read). >> >> Not really a one-liner: >> perl -MData::Dumper -e 'setgrent; my %dupchk; while( my ( $name, $grpass, >> $gid, $members ) = getgrent() ) { print "$name is returned more than once >> (No $dupchk{$name} comes here)\n" if( $dupchk{$name}++ ); print Dumper( [ >> $name, $grpass, $gid, $members ] ) };' >> >> setgrent() doesn't work here. > > I ran that and got dupes for group entries that exist both in /etc/groups and > my LDAP source, but that's expected. You can see here http://www.cpantesters.org/cpan/report/f5100ac6-9418-11df-9ebc-c4a68065c34d the typical error picture. FreeBSD is the only system, where this error occurs. I rate it as a bug - but I will write merge code for the duplicated entries. Best regards, Jens From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 14:56:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DAAA106564A for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:56:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out9.libero.it (cp-out9.libero.it [212.52.84.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A956E8FC14 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from soth.ventu (151.51.33.62) by cp-out9.libero.it (8.5.107) id 4C4029D100F26B48; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:56:24 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6LEuMHU067216; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:56:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4C470A96.3040409@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:56:22 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; it-IT; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100708 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "A. Wright" References: <4C46BBCE.2080601@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Strange filesystem problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:56:26 -0000 Il 07/21/10 14:00, A. Wright ha scritto: > > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2010, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > >> Let's say I have directory "foo"; under "foo" I have "bar" which keeps >> thousands of files (in several subdirectories). >> >> I do: >> >> %cd /xyzzy/foo >> %pwd >> xyzzy/foo >> %rm -fR bar >> %pwd >> pwd: .: Permission denied > > At this point, I would suspect that you may have the UCHG flag > set. What do: > ls -lod /xyzzy/foo/bar > and > ls -lo /xyzzy/foo/bar > say? Nope. ls says no flags are there; btw I'm repeatedly creating "bar", so I'm sure I'm not setting any flags on it or anything therein. Besides, would'nt that prevent rm from working? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 14:59:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29201065686 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:59:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725228FC1D for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:59:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so2630099ewy.13 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 07:59:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lfFxQUPZXwbn6Vy8EBQdyUIWuo6UR5+21ZnakRa2tOE=; b=t5t7hv3uQtJM9NIdPwQNIRmvjRo5GTpLJFbUtddg2OPH1BGlacdhkjXsnTuaXY0bPB zpAqy4TnWamZizxxRj7gsR4StqPpeUXRNA/PwbzTJSaFTjLUxDbnt1Yn2E+r+fZpjMjp tF0fTsZrwX76OXrmEQEPKoMAWaLIRNaIceU8k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ndsCUa/isklEFl5nParukbo47Sa+PKRA94L3f4wKWonDx7uyRFdXZmzULF2uMQ0Z9Y kuKsDLweRPL1GwDL63jmOTC/HfLkiCdr+7nj2Oqz8w1uIAhEgweEZLAcqM4qOZxRq2b0 PdxYvoULQXKqK058/v8LFd6LPET/kCck0+59s= Received: by 10.216.47.140 with SMTP id t12mr229911web.102.1279724391257; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 07:59:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.235.200 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 07:59:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <30910.84956.qm@web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <30910.84956.qm@web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> From: Paul B Mahol Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:59:31 +0000 Message-ID: To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WLAN stops working when idle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:59:56 -0000 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Leonardo M. Ram=E9 = wrote: > I have noted that my wlan stops responding when the O.S. does not use the= network for a while (10 minutes aprox), and I have to do "ifconfig wlan0 d= own && ifconfig wlan0 up && dhclient wlan0" to reconnect. > > The network card is the internal Wi-Fi from my Dell Inspiron 1525, and us= es ndis to wrap the WinXp driver. > > /etc/rc.conf: > ... > wlans_ndis0=3D"wlan0" > ifconfig_wlan0=3D"WPA SYNCDHCP" > wpa_supplicant_enable=3D"YES" > ... > > /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf > > ctrl_interface=3D/var/run/wpa_supplicant > ctrl_interface_group=3Dwheel > ap_scan=3D1 > network=3D{ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ssid=3D"strada" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0key_mgmt=3DWPA-PSK > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0psk=3D"martin13" > } > > uname -a: > > FreeBSD inspiron-1521 8.1-RC2 FreeBSD 8.1-RC2 #0: Tue Jun 29 20:42:40 UTC= 2010 =A0 =A0 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC =A0= i386 > > > Any hint? You got any output from wpa_supplicant and console? You could check this NDISulator code: http;//gitorious.org/NDISulator I did some work on new state switching on net80211 layer, so if connection get lost for any reason it will try to reassociate (code on HEAD fails badly in this scenario almost always). I also did support for wep and wpa(2) via bsd driver (you can still use ndis driver - I'm talking about wpa_supplicant _drivers_) but I did not tested it much. You should also run ndis_events(8) so that events from ndis driver are passed to wpa_supplicant(8). What version of driver are you using? Newest ones (<=3D5.1 API) I tested exibit at least one bug in NDISuator which I did not resolved yet. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 15:02:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF681065673 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:02:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7C78FC08 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:02:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6LF2LJJ061408; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:02:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4C470BFD.5060600@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:02:21 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100708 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Holm References: <4C46A956.3080700@rawbw.com> <20100721145618.GA35893@x2.osted.lan> In-Reply-To: <20100721145618.GA35893@x2.osted.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are kernel stress test results displayed online? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:02:22 -0000 On 07/21/2010 07:56, Peter Holm wrote: > There's not much to report, but if you have spare time you could run > the test your self. Different HW is always a good test parameter. > Does this mean that there were no failures at all for years? The reason why I asked was because I started getting system freezes on 8.1-PRERELEASE under heavy use. Before, 8.0-STABLE was very stable under the same load. So I remembered about kernel stress tests in case they might have higher failure rate after some recent 8.1 changes. But of course there are other factors like, possible NVidia driver updates or maybe memory getting bad, etc. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 15:07:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5BD7106566B for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:07:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimbobpalmer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5080D8FC0C for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:07:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so2037252wwe.31 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:07:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=l8olg2F+8cIFSlu/9goYqR4XX7YF0nPQmVb9tsNVcl8=; b=Pe4bBDttcMhDCUROf1fCovO2NdbUALkZ8Y7biAB6imGyE9uYv53IDnO92qxtNxdz+f JV7m7wh3AKV4675/NBw2Ff4DdGjiZL7DrxN5LqEMQHo2Z9bz5OZGOXyPcelvX+FgWsSG s0rQZiflPWbtITfp6fsO/2DsoHV3M8ctbPHzY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=MFNsRjb1FKtlyLy6GBtsyGEwCQ3750y0JNLmc9EwcZVXNSjktmcyNE+hgLwL24e7wm qZU2oJW0NsbhvTQBl5adpBWBEfawu7LhQL0ZKNQ+B4slR20QwcVt/AdAZp73M88TfYcf xBgDzyQBHLgSaQAeKOLvHHzLW4H9vCRdo9C04= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.148.2 with SMTP id n2mr217270wbv.216.1279723237513; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 07:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.67.147 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 07:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:40:37 +0200 Message-ID: From: jimbob palmer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Bash logging: two questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:07:04 -0000 Hello, I would like to run a bash script but to log output and exit codes. Essentially I would like to run the script with bash -x, but for that output to the log to go to a file, and the normal output as from running a normal script to go to the terminal. That's my first question :) My second question is about history. Bash has a -h option to remember the location of commands as they are looked up. Is it possible for this to be recorded in the history? e.g. if I run ls, it would record /bin/ls to the bash history file. Many thanks. JB From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 15:23:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C50F1065688 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:23:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pho@holm.cc) Received: from relay01.pair.com (relay01.pair.com [209.68.5.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E30B18FC23 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:23:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 67092 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2010 14:56:20 -0000 Received: from 93.166.52.54 (HELO x2.osted.lan) (93.166.52.54) by relay01.pair.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 2010 14:56:20 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 93.166.52.54 Received: from x2.osted.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by x2.osted.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6LEuJDs036305; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:56:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pho@x2.osted.lan) Received: (from pho@localhost) by x2.osted.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o6LEuI8K036304; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:56:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pho) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:56:18 +0200 From: Peter Holm To: Yuri Message-ID: <20100721145618.GA35893@x2.osted.lan> References: <4C46A956.3080700@rawbw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C46A956.3080700@rawbw.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are kernel stress test results displayed online? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:23:02 -0000 On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 01:01:26AM -0700, Yuri wrote: > Before one of the releases, I remember, kernel stress tests results were > online. > Now I can't find them. > I do not update that list any more, because there is no need IMHO. > Are they run? (I guess they must be.) Oh, yes. All of the time. > Particularly would be interesting to see tests for FreeBSD 8.1-RC2, > FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE and FreeBSD-9.0. There's not much to report, but if you have spare time you could run the test your self. Different HW is always a good test parameter. > Also does stress test only cover kernel or device drivers as well? > The stress2 test primarily targets the kernel. > Thanks, > Yuri -- Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 15:24:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1024B1065698 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cristiano.deana@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970B38FC18 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so3997434fxm.13 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:24:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GByNYAevjT9uo+lBYhY2WPMJSuyvS7BrmPtd8Rds6q4=; b=M8t+FYF45cvCMZ8GJJEC9z6YI2NrdVYxlT0SyTBPHfOJZ6EPAmMMoVQBH8xfnVWymQ 22KC4Lw/xAmWQPISn8fNELzY22vTBu8MkO5jFKhWo0NZQbI8oJicDP9gXh3FKcE07Pto Lnzz8iR4n2rbM4QmtQ69qhQbJ+cDzjJne2g90= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Hrg+rWnPpwKXI/WItgkPbEpbfkQNrqrOo2D/2e+t7vZPRCB+qngUlhJdyDbrhQwpG7 ndkGKpD8kTzCAsOeXb9VUEM158sI/RfAZaZ22YUqBSavD6DeM2cgK8ZxSJzwyui3aUFR QHHZTs/dGJqrdZSizCNdKLA72v98/dTEWOSNU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.120.82 with SMTP id c18mr413803far.69.1279725849375; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.114.16 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:24:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:24:09 +0200 Message-ID: From: Cristiano Deana To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" , FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:24:11 -0000 On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > I am a consultant and was retained by my client to setup qmail or exim > on a VPS running 8.0-STABLE (i386). After setting up the DNS (A record > and MX record) we have been unable to send or receive mail. steps: a) check if your dns are correct: # dig yourdomain.com mx (eg:) mail.yourdomain.com # telnet mail.yourdomain.com 25 does it reply or not? a) reply check if your mta is cofigured correctly: telnet mail.yourdomain.com 25 # write: ehlo gmail.com mail from: aryeh.friedman@gmail.com rcpt to: example_user@yourdomain.com data Subject: Test . does it reply with a 2XX code? with a 4XX code? 5XX code? b) doesn't reply does mail.yourdomain.com resolve to your mailserver's IP? is your daemon runnig? p.s if you give us more REAL information (domain, ip, etc) we can hel you more. -- Cris, member of G.U.F.I Italian FreeBSD User Group http://www.gufi.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 15:28:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39871065677 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:28:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [204.109.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18298FC15 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:28:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (client-86-31-3-93.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.31.3.93]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6EA085D42; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:28:52 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: "Thomas Mueller" Message-ID: <20100721162852.00007894@unknown> In-Reply-To: <4c46b835.qHM+B55tzs4Jv8Wu%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> References: <4c46b835.qHM+B55tzs4Jv8Wu%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:28:33 -0000 On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:04:53 +0000 "Thomas Mueller" wrote: > I wonder if FreeBSD is the only OS with > "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " > > Nothing like this occurs in NetBSD or Linux; I've also installed > various DOSes (MS-DOS 4.01 and upgrade to 5; DR-DOS 7.03 and FreeDOS; > OS/2 1.3 through (Warp) 4) although MS-DOS 4.01 (back in 1990) and > OS/2 had their own problems. Only FreeBSD has sysinstall - that message gets displayed when sysinstall starts as it checks what devices are available for it to register internally. It's a message from userspace, not the kernel. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 15:37:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A461065679 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:37:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from s2m-is-001.service2media.com (rev-132-102.virtu.nl [217.114.102.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48FF8FC23 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:37:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pieter-dev.localnet ([10.0.1.91] RDNS failed) by s2m-is-001.service2media.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:37:15 +0200 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Martin Schweizer Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:37:15 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.3 (Linux/2.6.32-5-amd64; KDE/4.4.4; x86_64; ; ) References: <20100721083754.GA38999@saturn.pcs.ms> In-Reply-To: <20100721083754.GA38999@saturn.pcs.ms> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201007211737.15121.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jul 2010 15:37:15.0809 (UTC) FILETIME=[989D3910:01CB28EA] Cc: Subject: Re: Unabel to download Java Patch from http://www.eyesbeyond.com/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:37:19 -0000 On Wednesday 21 July 2010 10:37:54 Martin Schweizer wrote: > Since some days I tried to download the latest Java patch from > http://www.eyesbeyond.com/. But the site is not reachable. I tried it from > a europe and from us server but no luck. Do you have any ideas? I can recommend installing openjdk16 instead of jdk16. It is a much more recent version of Java. - Pieter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 15:45:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FBEA1065676 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:45:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rl001@pacbell.net) Received: from web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 246A18FC23 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:45:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21258 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jul 2010 15:45:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pacbell.net; s=s1024; t=1279727150; bh=5R7rVSdQTGKJDSMWAzYpVXDu0R9bLjXsuQ4S3EVjkD0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=r16jHFWHQz0H57NSb4ldhdsqtFTXZU0YZnK9e2v82XIJeZLz9pueZoOgZ+0rfrPVANDQQwuaWrSgomvjHtDABbpL99Kyv+NAU58OD4JCD/Vww61+ZuON4jM/nj3w+0MZgGP+Btvjc3W4T0HYmO5OVl33YhUGw4nC2xJ6MC6X7QE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3eE13ko7yf1fQRlcVZUrcABFYBDnNvidOE5grG93Q10+ku3Ctvt61jshFUDCowgtgzZ8rVTSSIrYaawixnYpBjZ4zBZ/GQpQvxGiXTX9jbxv5etAeYlRPpXLeuSh9jUZBVcpzdlVsoRxAhO0Yh/LPKWV7kfud6Ll69bDIczz/nw=; Message-ID: <488243.18325.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: OLpJn9oVM1l2X5xzC8Lmh26aHdkPt55Q0NKCijPM.Xa.lso Mw0UK63Q_grf0JHFeAzvEOM6do93yvKbtVztnSkdFvn.jvUgXrN1OMQfLygz 6LRVDuJUhAMHhLXSDCz09rckbFGwWZ48H5Q4y.ENdPEZ0trM0juoEwyMXLOe aCVvGEaYUNfHVLlDuPmvWzb3YDgwz1p5QNyb7he7g2TbRxJCBfu7Z9D9vvWy oh1IRjVWvu076nnSRVEjrCak3kOYPt4RMOvxHKsUEN8J.tuHdRKhba6WnBCD jl8qLvetqLoH2feXsrf3fVPKDyy9JBVXyhYX9r.lg9Wm4yTeH_gsd0S_L8Kk 8oIEXdePHlw-- Received: from [71.139.189.69] by web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:45:50 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/420.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 References: <4c455351.iveHHylYsmZKh9Xe%mueller6727@bellsouth.net>, <117437.98621.qm@web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <20100720234607.00002478@unknown> <4C46E082.2568.4BA5F993@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:45:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich To: Dave , Bruce Cran In-Reply-To: <4C46E082.2568.4BA5F993@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:45:51 -0000 ________________________________ From: Dave To: Bruce Cran Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 3:56:50 AM Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " On 20 Jul 2010 at 23:46, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:59:04 -0700 (PDT) > Rich wrote: > > > Any ideas anyone ? I'm stuck. Cannot install FreeBSD on my computer. > > Every other OS besides FreeBSD boots up and installs. What else can > > I check? > > It looks like it's stopping/spinning at the section where it parses > the slices/partitions. I don't know why it would be getting stuck > there, though. > Maybe because there might be old RAID metadata from being in one of those stupid "fakeraids". I had this problem last year and somehow (can't remember) wiped the drives and got it working. The system worked for about a year then crashed. I thought it a good time to move to 9.0 but now having the same problem again. I didn't put them back in the fakeraid. From what I understand FreeBSD can't be installed on those fakeraids. Maybe it has something to do with that. > -- > Bruce Cran > Hi, I'm not a developer (of OS's at least) but from that DEBUG: list, it almost looks like it thinks it can see just about every hardware device it knows about, existing or not, and is trying to use them all. I know someone mentioned memory tests, but I didn't see what results they came up with, or how much memory you have. I do know however from my own frustrating experience in the past, that often some software will run just fine on bad memory, if the problems don't screw up the code or it's workspace. Where as other software will crash badly, making you think the program is bad. The same is sadly true of hard disk errors too! Did you run a recent memtest86 (self boot CD) and let it do several "Full" passes (can take many many hours per pass if you have lots of ram! And or a not so fast CPU) ? Just idle musings. Dave B. No I didn't run a mem test since every other OS works perfectly fine. There's something in the FreeBSD code that is hanging. When it hangs it says "Probing devices (this may take a while)". What does "a while" mean? A few seconds? few hours? few days? That's a really dumb message IMHO. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 16:17:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9E1106564A for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:17:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swell.k@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0608FC15 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:17:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so4062096fxm.13 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:17:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:references :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=xF8ApVR8fQbt3RgjG3V10isjGOn9FmFWOUpGpuu2jac=; b=l5I8JdH134x1w22/51Vvx/ZsRjxYW9X15hxlHVQxfpT/YGEliaRb4xTpzCX+uhGzS2 jkbuQKdSl4kCSTD/89fkk34zOe7f+KH3NY79+oc2/AI4RvcM/MRmD6lfg1Nhzgp3fM3U j5dt1dC9/W3c/0iVWPj4ArQqC9HjrrnoxzhKs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=xnM5bNLzKfCHZcqc+1kTJSuVUkv/bO0bE9Lf8pPcqGPmGiUevBoyrjzxiyFvAsUC2Y kJ7p1ohp19Op65bwgBLcOur3PYjn6XOp/W6J2qZ42CYZj+rjGAs6gY+UvjAGxGWFRfEb PvlNQzjW+5ddOJ4rjs8NI+45xsq8Day1pPZbs= Received: by 10.223.122.148 with SMTP id l20mr503287far.84.1279729068688; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([81.218.219.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a9sm2947470faa.3.2010.07.21.09.17.43 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:17:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Anonymous To: jimbob palmer References: Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:17:36 +0400 In-Reply-To: (jimbob palmer's message of "Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:40:37 +0200") Message-ID: <866308stb3.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bash logging: two questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:17:51 -0000 jimbob palmer writes: > Hello, > > I would like to run a bash script but to log output and exit codes. > Essentially I would like to run the script with bash -x, but for that > output to the log to go to a file, and the normal output as from > running a normal script to go to the terminal. Dunno about bash but in zsh it's easy #! /usr/bin/env zsh PS4='+%i:%N:%?> ' exec 2>trace.log set -x # here goes the main script foo=5 bar=$(date) echo foo=$foo, $bar false echo It should work in sh(1) except you'll not see exit values in prompt. Seems like bash doesn't have tcsh-like features: `%?' and printexitvalue. I guess you'll have to write your own wrapper to put `$?' into stderr after each command. > My second question is about history. Bash has a -h option to remember > the location of commands as they are looked up. Is it possible for > this to be recorded in the history? e.g. if I run ls, it would record > /bin/ls to the bash history file. If bash has smth like zshaddhistory() it'd be easy... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 16:55:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F1E106566B for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:55:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pho@holm.cc) Received: from relay02.pair.com (relay02.pair.com [209.68.5.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A24B48FC2A for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:55:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 75082 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2010 16:55:42 -0000 Received: from 93.166.52.54 (HELO x2.osted.lan) (93.166.52.54) by relay02.pair.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 2010 16:55:42 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 93.166.52.54 Received: from x2.osted.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by x2.osted.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6LGtg7M038615; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:55:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pho@x2.osted.lan) Received: (from pho@localhost) by x2.osted.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o6LGtg01038614; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:55:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pho) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:55:42 +0200 From: Peter Holm To: Yuri Message-ID: <20100721165542.GA38430@x2.osted.lan> References: <4C46A956.3080700@rawbw.com> <20100721145618.GA35893@x2.osted.lan> <4C470BFD.5060600@rawbw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C470BFD.5060600@rawbw.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are kernel stress test results displayed online? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:55:45 -0000 On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 08:02:21AM -0700, Yuri wrote: > On 07/21/2010 07:56, Peter Holm wrote: > >There's not much to report, but if you have spare time you could run > >the test your self. Different HW is always a good test parameter. > > > > Does this mean that there were no failures at all for years? > No, of cause not. Take a look at http://people.freebsd.org/~pho/stress/log/ls.html for problems reported. Most if not all have been analyzed and fixed. > The reason why I asked was because I started getting system freezes on > 8.1-PRERELEASE under heavy use. Before, 8.0-STABLE was very stable under > the same load. So I remembered about kernel stress tests in case they > might have higher failure rate after some recent 8.1 changes. But of > course there are other factors like, possible NVidia driver updates or > maybe memory getting bad, etc. > > Yuri I urge you to build a debug kernel and report the details of the problem. If you have a specific test scenario I'd be happy to try and reproduce it. -- Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 18:14:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E37A1065672; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2952F8FC20; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6LIERg7019553; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:14:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4C4738FE.4030803@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:14:22 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100708 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Holm References: <4C46A956.3080700@rawbw.com> <20100721145618.GA35893@x2.osted.lan> <4C470BFD.5060600@rawbw.com> <20100721165542.GA38430@x2.osted.lan> In-Reply-To: <20100721165542.GA38430@x2.osted.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are kernel stress test results displayed online? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:14:28 -0000 On 07/21/2010 09:55, Peter Holm wrote: > I urge you to build a debug kernel and report the details of the > problem. If you have a specific test scenario I'd be happy to try and > reproduce it. > I just updated the kernel to RC2, if I get one more freeze I will rebuild and run it as debug. BTW are there instructions how to build debug kernel (8.1) ? Somehow googling "building debug FreeBSD kernel" doesn't fetch instructions for *debug* kernel, it only fetches instructions for just kernel which I do frequently. I know there should be WITNESS and DIAGNOSTIC options enabled, also coredumps should be enabled. But are there step by step instructions online? Also when the system freezes will it dump core? Or how do I make it to dump core if there is no SEGV? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 18:35:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A8F106567B for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:35:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D458FC13 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:35:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so4219010fxm.13 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:35:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=c2cra8P5kzhGwWUP09eqD5P3iHJ7ujYemEqtBwFU428=; b=Nc4FNNM25KJ2ftFc5JCGA6O+xzlmD7d6H2patmOaOT50Xi36IoELpGVccDConBhL5P 7BJn3ymPwQzZpnRS1ZOmtHUO9yHrRLnyZ/CI/EZYgktr/U9DyikxaT/vKdh27aaEevZW QYV1Samdz4QgM45c5+AMNAGpcBM79nKzG5MjI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=bBSWAV3iiasvZEWEOQ+oKaszn1ZXup9Ye3QbYH/rfTTAPrDDlqKnF6y4SX8CX+0ZPn eZC7pAueWsUbOm+tKyh+vwEC5yif6FxUFORsxCjqtQ5nSBFfZDiSn7E19z+PKLlo3000 eWBPhW/UEQm0M4c0PK4ZDXu10jKGJ8eyF3SuA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.158.71 with SMTP id t7mr60897hbc.61.1279737348165; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:35:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.160.201 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:35:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:35:48 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Cristiano Deana Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "Aryeh M. Friedman" , FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:35:50 -0000 On 21 July 2010 16:24, Cristiano Deana wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman > wrote: > > > I am a consultant and was retained by my client to setup qmail or exim > > on a VPS running 8.0-STABLE (i386). After setting up the DNS (A record > > and MX record) we have been unable to send or receive mail. > > steps: > > a) check if your dns are correct: > # dig yourdomain.com mx > (eg:) > mail.yourdomain.com > # telnet mail.yourdomain.com 25 > > does it reply or not? > > a) reply > check if your mta is cofigured correctly: > telnet mail.yourdomain.com 25 # write: > ehlo gmail.com > mail from: aryeh.friedman@gmail.com > rcpt to: example_user@yourdomain.com > data > Subject: Test > . > > does it reply with a > 2XX code? with a 4XX code? 5XX code? > > b) doesn't reply > does mail.yourdomain.com resolve to your mailserver's IP? > is your daemon runnig? > > p.s > if you give us more REAL information (domain, ip, etc) we can hel you more. > > > > -- > Cris, member of G.U.F.I > Italian FreeBSD User Group > http://www.gufi.org/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > while we are on the topic of debugging I would recomend exim as an MTA. I manage a few large enterprise mail systems with 10M + active accounts. A lot of them are legacy systems that we gained through acquisitions. I generally have to support them until we can get the accounts migrated onto the main platform. They are a mixture of exim, postfix, qmail, and sendmail, and quite often are in a poor state when we first get our hands on them. I have to say when you are getting mail routing issues exim is by the far the easiest to debug mainly due to the -bt option. When you combine it with the debug flag it produced a very detailed output on the mail routing. I have never found such a feature in all the other MTA's above. The configs are also very readable unlike sendmail. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 18:44:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543B31065670 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:44:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sektie@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028218FC1C for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:44:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so9476650vws.13 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:44:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=I5pII584w5nmzpMEb8nVAyXxR3/VYXacT2MWDgTTs7o=; b=UiPJXAlSG+d4OhfPDoIetN7Pn1O6A+YMSKp8e00b58ugNkBRsoP3JK0YM1Zih++/TF Zzixv8u+XJTCKx51LN3GGEPq6T0lDFBABWGwt9JGiEZTmOV3mnxAJ6yoAjlMVd3F7eJE xk4R1cEtINYcLhcoU2gq616vs4UR/Eu2du4kY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=mjxcAViKqVgJajNdP58GWA2d4CKlde+xP5ZVaJf0Cv/eNqEwM2q0dyJPqrN37fxW5N sMvxWF1SckLEf42yz15N8Zkn+ZtNJpb0qJrEJ25L37qXimaDnR/JU5/DPG5tXjNaC6cZ eQbZXWl37uOWixPQcA2pNXUFvW+8eGW7E/JKI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.88.147 with SMTP id a19mr246862vcm.259.1279737871325; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Sender: sektie@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.202.131 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:44:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <488243.18325.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4c455351.iveHHylYsmZKh9Xe%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> <117437.98621.qm@web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100720234607.00002478@unknown> <4C46E082.2568.4BA5F993@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> <488243.18325.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:44:31 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8q3wpr28_uT2ak5pXUWU7ylHHoA Message-ID: From: Randi Harper To: Rich Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Bruce Cran , Dave , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:44:35 -0000 On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Rich wrote: > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Dave > To: Bruce Cran > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 3:56:50 AM > Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can tak= e a > while)... " > > On 20 Jul 2010 at 23:46, Bruce Cran wrote: > >> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:59:04 -0700 (PDT) >> Rich wrote: >> >> > Any ideas anyone ? I'm stuck. Cannot install FreeBSD on my computer. >> > Every other OS besides FreeBSD boots up and installs. What else can >> > I check? >> >> It looks like it's stopping/spinning at the section where it parses >> the slices/partitions. I don't know why it would be getting stuck >> there, though. >> > > Maybe because there might be old RAID metadata from being in one of those= stupid > "fakeraids". =A0I had this problem last year and somehow (can't remember)= wiped > the drives and got it working. The system worked for about a year then cr= ashed. > I thought it a good time to move to 9.0 but now having the same problem a= gain. I > didn't put them back in the fakeraid. From what I understand FreeBSD can'= t be > installed on those fakeraids. Maybe it has something to do with that. > > > >> -- >> Bruce Cran >> > > Hi, I'm not a developer (of OS's at least) but from that DEBUG: > list, it almost looks like it thinks it can see just about every > hardware device it knows about, existing or not, and is trying to > use them all. > > I know someone mentioned memory tests, but I didn't see what results > they came up with, or how much memory you have. =A0I do know however > from my own frustrating experience in the past, that often some > software will run just fine on bad memory, if the problems don't > screw up the code or it's workspace. =A0Where as other software will > crash badly, making you think the program is bad. =A0 The same is > sadly true of hard disk errors too! > > Did you run a recent memtest86 (self boot CD) and let it do several > "Full" passes (can take many many hours per pass if you have lots of > ram! =A0And or a not so fast CPU) ? > > Just idle musings. > > Dave B. > > No I didn't run a mem test since every other OS works perfectly fine. The= re's > something in the FreeBSD code that is hanging. When it hangs it says "Pro= bing > devices (this may take a while)". What does "a while" mean? A few seconds= ? few > hours? few days? That's a really dumb message IMHO. > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > It's not a memory problem. I've never seen this before. I'll see if I can take a look at the code tonight (I'm at work right now) and figure out why you might be getting this. Clearly doing a minimal install (as some have suggested) isn't going to work because you don't even get to the menu. I know *what* the code is doing - and this is actually something we're getting rid of soon. This was written before devfs was implemented, so it is going through looking for every possible device. I'm just not sure what order it does it in off the top of my head, so I don't know what comes after the scan for SCSI disks, as it's clearly getting through that part just fine. Hmmm. -- randi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 19:27:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AFCF106566C; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:27:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from smtprelay03.ispgateway.de (smtprelay03.ispgateway.de [80.67.29.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266728FC19; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:27:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [80.67.16.111] (helo=localhost) by smtprelay03.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Obex4-0001MY-Uf; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:27:34 +0200 Received: from rgnb-5d879669.pool.mediaWays.net (rgnb-5d879669.pool.mediaWays.net [93.135.150.105]) by webmail.df.eu (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:27:34 +0200 Message-ID: <20100721212734.15426ym98pet0doo@webmail.df.eu> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:27:34 +0200 From: Markus Hoenicka To: Ashish SHUKLA References: <19523.21705.648520.937010@yeti.mininet> <86eif0xi0f.fsf@chateau.d.if> <19524.43056.507309.913955@yeti.mininet> <8639vefwkj.fsf@chateau.d.if> <20100720232608.20822abt0h7wwj28@webmail.df.eu> <86eiexplng.fsf@chateau.d.if> In-Reply-To: <86eiexplng.fsf@chateau.d.if> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: domainFACTORY X-Originating-IP: 93.135.150.105 X-Df-Sender: 472582 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Emacs splash screen went to textmode only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:27:37 -0000 Quoting Ashish SHUKLA : > And please also evaluate following functions in Emacs (in X11) and > paste their > output: > This is the output from 23.2.1, i.e. the one which doesn't show the fancy splash screen: (use-fancy-splash-screens-p) nil (display-graphic-p) t (display-color-p) t (image-type-available-p 'xpm) t (image-type-available-p 'xbm) t For comparison, this is what 23.1.1. reports: (use-fancy-splash-screens-p) t (display-graphic-p) t (display-color-p) t (image-type-available-p 'xpm) t (image-type-available-p 'xbm) t The obvious difference is the value of (use-fancy-splash-screens-p). Both Emacsen were started with -q -no-site-file to be on a level ground. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 20:00:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485541065677 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:00:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41548FC15 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:00:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id o6LK03JE060850 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:00:03 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6LK02s2027495 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:00:03 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o6LK02Uu027494; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:00:02 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:00:02 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Jens Rehsack Message-ID: <20100721200002.GA85432@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20100715172615.GC5485@dan.emsphone.com> <86tyo0qd19.fsf@chateau.d.if> <20100716043056.GF5485@dan.emsphone.com> <20100716150719.GG5485@dan.emsphone.com> <4C408744.3030409@netbsd.org> <20100716181316.GH5485@dan.emsphone.com> <4C470615.8030608@netbsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C470615.8030608@netbsd.org> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:00:03 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: Ashish SHUKLA , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: getpwent bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:00:07 -0000 In the last episode (Jul 21), Jens Rehsack said: > On 07/16/10 18:13, Dan Nelson wrote: > > Hi Dan, > > > In the last episode (Jul 16), Jens Rehsack said: > >> On 07/16/10 15:07, Dan Nelson wrote: > >>> In the last episode (Jul 16), Jens Rehsack said: > >>>> Could you please take a look to my other mail (getgrent related) - there > >>>> seems another bug ... > >>> > >>> Do you have another one-liner that will reproduce it? A simple > >>> "/usr/bin/getent group" doesn't return dupes for me. Oddly enough, the > >>> *grent code doesn't use an internal counter, so the bug you found in > >>> endpwent doesn't exist in endgrent (afaik; the nsswitch code isn't that > >>> easy to read). > >> > >> Not really a one-liner: > >> perl -MData::Dumper -e 'setgrent; my %dupchk; while( my ( $name, > >> $grpass, $gid, $members ) = getgrent() ) { print "$name is returned > >> more than once (No $dupchk{$name} comes here)\n" if( $dupchk{$name}++ > >> ); print Dumper( [ $name, $grpass, $gid, $members ] ) };' > >> > >> setgrent() doesn't work here. > > > > I ran that and got dupes for group entries that exist both in /etc/groups and > > my LDAP source, but that's expected. > > You can see here > http://www.cpantesters.org/cpan/report/f5100ac6-9418-11df-9ebc-c4a68065c34d > the typical error picture. FreeBSD is the only system, where this error > occurs. I don't know how to read perl's test output; what part of that report failed, and how do you know it was due to getgrent returning duplicate values? BTW - I ran your one-liner above on a SLES 10.2 Linux box and a Solaris 10u7 box, and got duplicate entries where groups existed in both /etc/groups and LDAP, just like on FreeBSD. I think you may be relying on behaviour that getgrent doesn't guarantee on any OS. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 20:03:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57426106566B for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:03:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wahjava@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038898FC15 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:03:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj9 with SMTP id 9so3206494pwj.13 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:03:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:received:from:to:cc :subject:organization:references:x-face:x-uptime:x-url :x-operating-system:x-openpgp-id:x-openpgp-fingerprint:x-mailer :x-mail-morse:x-attribution:organisation:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:face:mime-version:content-type; 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Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:32:54 +0530 (IST) From: ashish@FreeBSD.org (Ashish SHUKLA) To: Markus Hoenicka Organization: The FreeBSD Project References: <19523.21705.648520.937010@yeti.mininet> <86eif0xi0f.fsf@chateau.d.if> <19524.43056.507309.913955@yeti.mininet> <8639vefwkj.fsf@chateau.d.if> <20100720232608.20822abt0h7wwj28@webmail.df.eu> <86eiexplng.fsf@chateau.d.if> <20100721212734.15426ym98pet0doo@webmail.df.eu> X-Face: )vGQ9yK7Y$Flebu1C>(B\gYBm)[$zfKM+p&TT[[JWl6:]S>cc$%-z7-`46Zf0B*syL.C]oCq[upTG~zuS0.$"_%)|Q@$hA=9{3l{%u^h3jJ^Zl; t7 X-Uptime: 1:26AM up 17:38, 2 users, load averages: 0.06, 0.03, 0.03 X-URL: http://762e5e74.wordpress.com/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p4/amd64 X-OpenPGP-ID: E74FA4B0 X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: F682 CDCC 39DC 0FEA E116 20B6 C746 CFA9 E74F A4B0 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.13 X-Mail-Morse: .-- .- .... .--- .- ...- .- .--.-. --. -- .- .. .-.. .-.-.- -.-. --- -- X-Attribution: =?utf-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3?= Organisation: The FreeBSD Project Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:32:49 +0530 In-Reply-To: <20100721212734.15426ym98pet0doo@webmail.df.eu> (Markus Hoenicka's message of "Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:27:34 +0200") Message-ID: <86bpa0k3h2.fsf@chateau.d.if> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJ1BMVEWpqal/f39tbW1jY2Md HR2goKCenp6UlJROTk7////9/f35+fnT09ORJdieAAACVklEQVQ4jXXUP2vbQBQA8AvUTkgz5OzY Z0iGWhpS6BSrkECn0mvx0MEJ6AjtYrfoBCVDlD8naJYmNlRfwZq8+mkKlIZaGpJSYmP7Q/XkJDrJ Td8i/H68u3vHPaPufwLdf32AMA4A6GcAgvAamY1pOJiDIFqicTwLswDhfr3uxfFtkAY/GFHPMwzD 8zpnACmIOnE6js7rQb+v4NJrG9od0C+QgpHMy5jBewV+UDSMWiw1Y4fWfyV7+NGFzDsYa3pth9LJ Q4XvXxFHcJRvHOmygn5NAEabnDcQQguarnfoiwSCJ99jmKKcphsZONmWsDK9Ro7cvZOCtQdg8nje egLhc2LNlkLmsezzTFUUy5w18ocox/f0LaLgJy0zO75zk+9pp85GAj36xjqhdI0y3tq2m4dqqcWX zQWBTz8L1irvolXV4J+3q7eCDgVnttjNq6X8H+9KOZsuNk1uCzx8pSp+E9HImfJOTLdcGqo+YKnG EIovizkEn48V7BO+ch2DXcD4ENSpWiU+q8hjjbgTBZCXnZtyj0Ws4Q1Q0B2WXFtYZo65Bbyeeldw RS6qFueM80LlLA29YlVwGRYvFD+kwI/0O+A2PlpOP9GwslUVciHuYGechuBTp922YiDZCrghTknm XSyOM+D3aoRZlo0Jb42zY7DN4p2x4AeZ+QAYutx1sHwTHzMT5cMNduQ9yW3GczN4KZ86kb0c9O8T yXDeFqpl2fryPEAYGXIlezAPXYh2NgVr/gvdoHIuDwuPwOhcWE8f8mmICq41eATkn8x0kuRTIKcB wE9+/QUtiiAnYcaN7wAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Emacs splash screen went to textmode only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:03:03 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Markus Hoenicka writes: > Quoting Ashish SHUKLA : >> And please also evaluate following functions in Emacs (in X11) and >> paste their >> output: >>=20 > This is the output from 23.2.1, i.e. the one which doesn't show the > fancy splash screen: > (use-fancy-splash-screens-p) > nil #v+ (defun use-fancy-splash-screens-p () "Return t if fancy splash screens should be used." (when (and (display-graphic-p) (or (and (display-color-p) (image-type-available-p 'xpm)) (image-type-available-p 'pbm))) (let ((frame (fancy-splash-frame))) (when frame (let* ((img (create-image (or fancy-splash-image (if (and (display-color-p) (image-type-available-p 'xpm)) "splash.xpm" "splash.pbm")))) (image-height (and img (cdr (image-size img nil frame)))) ;; We test frame-height so that, if the frame is split ;; by displaying a warning, that doesn't cause the normal ;; splash screen to be used. (frame-height (1- (frame-height frame)))) (> frame-height (+ image-height 19))))))) #v- Well I use a tiling WM (Xmonad), and to reproduce your issue, I started 12 instances of 'xterm' and then started an Emacs instance with '-q =2Dno-site-file' which caused Emacs to start with a smaller window where I = got a non-fancy splash screen. Try starting your Emacs in full-screen mode .e.g. 'emacs -fs'. > The obvious difference is the value of (use-fancy-splash-screens-p). > Both Emacsen were started with -q -no-site-file to be on a level > ground. HTH =2D-=20 Ashish SHUKLA | GPG: F682 CDCC 39DC 0FEA E116 20B6 C746 CFA9 E74F A4B0 freebsd.org!ashish | http://people.freebsd.org/~ashish/ =E2=80=9CIf knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that= we can solve them.=E2=80=9D (Isaac Asimov) --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJMR1JtAAoJEMdGz6nnT6Sw3PMP/2DwT89PBa1KX+9jdhaBsxBn ikyrJrTaBzFtMLsOb2JcV2Is/zMBHXp1BPE2U0l2Mq3UOgaMwKVfL0ZRYV3BrdlO ZPveD/ME9ayuZ4WtyQrPkrqY4UI413DJTK3v95l7prB/cKJTv5eGgRc4TvL0CEKx VozpI49jG0rrflKieafKH0D9Ts+uRQaZAgyFvZBXhk8NYascUcVxpCYNyRxhg1Cn wHjeudXVIssOkfTkjEf/Hd3HllezKv42Oo3GlLV0KY2B649EwFl2LrD11q7VQywU RUUfBWMaQPHX5ktadzTB9LfaWx80JGieVz9qINJTJ+kfmL59zfRl3q2q70qtoZQf 49ZXJk3naYpl0+EyOEa8SCye2GsUhKGvlzYJd4L0N57SCIs768fse//fHFQYBktD nTPE15JhSTFspQ+AwoBqAMfoNJh99RYmAxcGNFS2o+ldVVZcECzORVd1zE2CbygS wCfnzjgQ9P38iI4etqXPkxhG/DIkQA1DewKGYgXvJBzEOc1bt+xpApV/YOdXzUBJ cfdHjZAtRoYjrMCCY7YpKgjyqL825n39lb/UGVp7TCVStd4hi5eNw/q+vx4w3ogl ZNf1A92vOXbYZ93Tn9ToXrSYTBWo6QXYUMuZveseV8b8vm2tJQBvWXacsMSwvWFf ZvHnNC8YaBNW7niT/aRX =EP9m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 20:25:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5991065675; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:25:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from smtprelay04.ispgateway.de (smtprelay04.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4905F8FC18; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [80.67.16.111] (helo=localhost) by smtprelay04.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Obfqt-0006e1-Jp; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:25:15 +0200 Received: from rgnb-5d879669.pool.mediaWays.net (rgnb-5d879669.pool.mediaWays.net [93.135.150.105]) by webmail.df.eu (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:25:15 +0200 Message-ID: <20100721222515.14814f2m7z400qsk@webmail.df.eu> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:25:15 +0200 From: Markus Hoenicka To: Ashish SHUKLA References: <19523.21705.648520.937010@yeti.mininet> <86eif0xi0f.fsf@chateau.d.if> <19524.43056.507309.913955@yeti.mininet> <8639vefwkj.fsf@chateau.d.if> <20100720232608.20822abt0h7wwj28@webmail.df.eu> <86eiexplng.fsf@chateau.d.if> <20100721212734.15426ym98pet0doo@webmail.df.eu> <86bpa0k3h2.fsf@chateau.d.if> In-Reply-To: <86bpa0k3h2.fsf@chateau.d.if> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: domainFACTORY X-Originating-IP: 93.135.150.105 X-Df-Sender: 472582 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Emacs splash screen went to textmode only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:25:17 -0000 Quoting Ashish SHUKLA : > Well I use a tiling WM (Xmonad), and to reproduce your issue, I started 12 > instances of 'xterm' and then started an Emacs instance with '-q > -no-site-file' which caused Emacs to start with a smaller window > where I got a > non-fancy splash screen. > > Try starting your Emacs in full-screen mode .e.g. 'emacs -fs'. > That works indeed. That is, I just have to make sure Emacs starts up with a sufficient frame height. emacs -g 80x40 is all it takes. Thanks a lot for your help! Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 22:34:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8FE1065672 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:34:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from amavis-smtp.knology.net (amavis-smtp.knology.net [75.76.199.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F238FC12 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:34:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (amavis-smtp [127.0.0.1]) by amavis-smtp.knology.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E7E88C34 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:34:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp12.knology.net ([75.76.199.9]) by localhost (amavis-smtp.knology.net [75.76.199.6]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ERopoCfoTlCO for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:34:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Grumpy.DynDNS.org (unknown [24.42.224.110]) by smtp12.knology.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23CF5200029 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:34:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id D6F462841F; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:34:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:34:45 -0500 From: David Kelly To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20100721223445.GA44260@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: Strip high bit from text? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:34:49 -0000 I regularly get email from a Blackberry user which my ISP then adds this header, "X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit". So far so good but the result always contains a number of 0xa0's in places a plain old space belongs. Mutt/vim renders these as "?" making a complete mess of things. Already use procmail so adding an automatic filter should not be difficult if only I can come up with on. Tried "tr \240 ' ' < testfile | hd" and was not able to change the 0xa0 into anything. Have already spent much more time trying to make tr or sed do the job than it would have taken to knock something out in C, but I think there should be something laying around already in the base system to perform this task. Suggestions? Repair the email while procmail has it? Reconfigure mutt and/or vim? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 23:00:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A6C106564A for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:00:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edflecko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0F98FC15 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:00:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so9107121iwn.13 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:00:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8T2/qZ8kMHyzb6AsYHF5g+/bsvjksxK6WpgnvZnVULE=; b=IcoKvXnbZ5E1rSHQ608NualOVKRRMdhQRoz2t/kNUwhS1gw2UHrxUiluf5PxJGZVV2 M5d+Fx28ry5LXdmkfL7unQDHdOC4gs1OdP4VLr+Fufsw+NGf8InYqL5UkClVCp1tSkbh 3kmZVBo9Ej3gpOqNbczeBJFsvike9DszdlHLM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Y+RDRYwqM9qprvqJ/hJ01rq01sgDMWWsMFiQaI5P+mRLlsuDc/QhgZDWzZeqSQ9ON6 2/NGyUzoMjVA518VZihyYX5FdnDfOCUg2Mn9aPjz8jbsLtQXw/U4/eFWwVGzO6vDXarO j4fTbl7lQkmyxPBhJIdpax4iRsFQQ7KdZtBYA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.183.10 with SMTP id ce10mr695953ibb.96.1279753234590; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.118.98 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:00:34 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ed Flecko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Install Apache in qjail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:00:35 -0000 Hi folks, I'm using the new qjail, and I've created a new jail named "webserver", but I don't see how you install a package (in this case, Apache 2.2.15) inside the jail? I know qjail is pretty new; is the best source of documentation at the moment the "man" pages? Thank you, Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 23:03:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9A31065672 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:03:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout028.mac.com (asmtpout028.mac.com [17.148.16.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139C58FC12 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:03:52 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp028.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L5X00KXIK2BNX60@asmtp028.mac.com> for FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:03:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1007210103 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-07-21_09:2010-07-21, 2010-07-21, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <20100721223445.GA44260@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:03:46 -0700 Message-id: References: <20100721223445.GA44260@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> To: David Kelly X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Strip high bit from text? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:03:53 -0000 Hi, all-- On Jul 21, 2010, at 3:34 PM, David Kelly wrote: > I regularly get email from a Blackberry user which my ISP then adds > this header, "X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit". So > far so good but the result always contains a number of 0xa0's in places > a plain old space belongs. Mutt/vim renders these as "?" making a > complete mess of things. Those are Unicode/UTF-8 non-breaking-space characters, generally coming from HTML-formatted email. > Already use procmail so adding an automatic filter should not be > difficult if only I can come up with on. > > Tried "tr \240 ' ' < testfile | hd" and was not able to change the 0xa0 > into anything. Have already spent much more time trying to make tr or > sed do the job than it would have taken to knock something out in C, but > I think there should be something laying around already in the base > system to perform this task. > > Suggestions? Repair the email while procmail has it? Reconfigure mutt and/or vim? If you've got procmail in the loop already, then calling iconv as a filter like so: iconv -f utf-8 -t ascii ...is likely to help. Another choice would be to switch to using a MIME+Unicode/UTF-8 aware mail reader. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 23:38:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA761065673 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:38:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C318FC0C for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:38:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so152909wyj.13 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:38:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WP9jvxaYOwD9n/gYgeWzyP8PzJc+QxrP5PuuLFk66ho=; b=alKI94gll2zjRI+eW6qgVqkC0Oar26mDbTZsEhUBzohVUyzesplPM+2ReukWTCxhKb q50hPpcC0wFq2IgybG2RLafKE2haGQA/yQ9rzQ87DxBtnAU/HKymJ/sMm7HVSEjwJqWR Ki7ucSgl6maxcV315rtUwNxh1yHaYtoewmdv4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=pBo7VJYPEsTfZyw/eeZy6nXO9UZfbBYW/2yUJ1XgpNF+kdz6ATMvBzUfKP6Y5odxjd uSlfKPtGRQ7QectE7KxXPLUuB6feb0XSTOB0ekVKADbx4t4x5wRDLzuy6nAWIFf85kTQ iyum3EagA/ELHA4jk/0uI3oPVQcCbIZg80iR0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.231.73 with SMTP id k51mr962561weq.5.1279755532500; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.12.209 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:38:52 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: rmconfig from all ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:38:54 -0000 hello guys, is there a way to do "make rmconfig" for all ports at once ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 23:55:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A36106566C for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:55:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D358FC1F for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:55:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so162431wyj.13 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:55:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bJBBcGyG4YHNLw/jrh17HE66n0XKE5+ZACkQD/DgQ64=; b=cFt6vmDEkPev8R+NFE3YP6oH/HQjg327QoJ+vvWuQ8/7RGW8TBAwK2TZNN5eJJ1QNL 9l6qkkNTA6Q4hfyqbqUzuAvP1Bj9XQAmO8XVytwirfLw9R99q5t7u5Jf9JwnkImeL8m2 QCurXi8rWrXDJP8KYZI+g1Ji+2zfmmogHs1Ds= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=V1OAlxkHUg2HzdURaLAPoc+N+K/gp6l9ORJwzmGgRi6WT4gUnYFJKRbXME9JgXwE2z NZlUVbV/REz0wMJ7vVSHFOruNb9jSaitRL4XUhOTiS1ifYf6ntvlxPwj6AsAZa0qdir5 3MDdfZFqyosfuE4KSJ1NIPLUE7qBcEKRhKaO8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.201.85 with SMTP id ez21mr927197wbb.151.1279756532829; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.12.209 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:55:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:55:32 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: rmconfig from all ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:55:34 -0000 one solution I just created would be: for i in `find /usr/ports/ -type directory -print`; do `cd $i && make rmconfig`;done but I am wondering if there is a "official way". man portsclean did not give me any options to do it. Another thing would be to make rmconfig in all dir's that are required to be installed by a particular meta-port, for instance kde/gnome/xfce. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 00:11:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E0D1065670 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:11:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409668FC12 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:11:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.68]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:11:01 -0700 Message-ID: <4C478C90.4090702@comclark.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:10:56 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Flecko References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2010 00:11:01.0306 (UTC) FILETIME=[5E0AC9A0:01CB2932] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install Apache in qjail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:11:05 -0000 Ed Flecko wrote: > Hi folks, > I'm using the new qjail, and I've created a new jail named > "webserver", but I don't see how you install a package (in this case, > Apache 2.2.15) inside the jail? > > I know qjail is pretty new; is the best source of documentation at the > moment the "man" pages? > > Read the qjail man page again and this time, "study" what its telling you. It's all explained in detail. BE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND what the create command ip address section is telling you. The simplest method is start the jail that you want to install apache in. Open that jails console. issue pkg_add -r apache If this apache jail is going to use the standard port 80 to listen on, then the host and any other jails can not use that port number. For your info. Being in the jails console you config your jail the same way you would config your host. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 00:13:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFA51065679 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:13:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB438FC16 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:13:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 68-189-245-235.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.245.235] helo=cube.entropy.prv) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ObjPG-000Lsg-T1; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:13:04 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by cube.entropy.prv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51DE342C63F7; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C478D04.6020005@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:12:52 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: claudiu vasadi References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rmconfig from all ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:13:05 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 claudiu vasadi wrote: > one solution I just created would be: > > for i in `find /usr/ports/ -type directory -print`; do `cd $i && make > rmconfig`;done > > but I am wondering if there is a "official way". man portsclean did not give > me any options to do it. > > > Another thing would be to make rmconfig in all dir's that are required to be > installed by a particular meta-port, for instance kde/gnome/xfce. Hi Claudiu, You can use one of these two targets: rmconfig - Remove the options config for this port. rmconfig-recursive - Remove the options config for this port and all dependencies. Or, if you want to use a big hammer and remove all configs for all ports, use: find /var/db/ports -type f -name options -print | xargs rm Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFMR40E0sRouByUApARAiAxAJ4tTVUwd1HdU1ZqZsTZdpmmHfK5swCdG4CL OG68m0jqHWogajdG0rn/ZSU= =ns+l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 00:13:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B241065687 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:13:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@b1c1l1.com) Received: from lancer.b1c1l1.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f358:1a:1a:1000::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D2488FC18 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from supra.b1c1l1.com (netops-129.sfo1.bitgravity.com [209.131.110.129]) by lancer.b1c1l1.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DE3CD5C41; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:13:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C478D24.60204@b1c1l1.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:13:24 -0700 From: Benjamin Lee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100712 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: claudiu vasadi References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig2CE7D6E01E520DA910AD5A8E" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rmconfig from all ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:13:37 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig2CE7D6E01E520DA910AD5A8E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/21/2010 04:38 PM, claudiu vasadi wrote: > hello guys, >=20 > is there a way to do "make rmconfig" for all ports at once ? The fastest way is: rm -rf /var/db/ports/* but this breaks the abstraction. The "right" thing to do would be to make rmconfig in each port directory. --=20 Benjamin Lee http://www.b1c1l1.com/ --------------enig2CE7D6E01E520DA910AD5A8E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMR40uAAoJEHBW16CPoSMCE48QAK9UTtVe7+L3RVl5Qb9M/qyF eptWuIYbfeHsi/90qOZKqm4WGwHBOMhXZEtnv/JcBx6uLpk70pgNqmDAgUzBfYUQ y+e2ndB8hUgaZ+yE0jNr9NtwGMxj4M/U5s/xmH56xAFQ2D+9cxZE10Yj1p0U4OJ1 eyrNalteffJISy1qk80tLU/yEI4I4b17zRPiX2pYHDVuUXb1OQMvi66jVwF8xRiB dOWIbiWr6n3+QIkeMTObMx8Y4byZCWRDBNGriGra/YchUtAqiWkpMHDtgtVY0H50 CfYje6Sdp6C48/p2tpaoTLgVtJ13QpE3n3QpD3w4k5QWqUktRrqBeo3Vgbtib0jb Pfmt6p8ixAiVd6bICjO87BjP6G6b88AP9NUptiXoKO94W/dqaHR9qqKgFoQBE34w HCQhtGMH5q672R9PjV/03G3WH5Yax5+HVqQohICRMrBpS+N/V6V6aDUD4zNzCzHa Dsv+UVDBAmZUo1m3Cxc8o0Mr6GB3cVbdFcT15Ue3Ul9t5BtYvs3nbjmiMkMMV0Dm eiSZLkzJ/nQuklp72ADDJv2CqTQWdCI7gdaeG6LDyYBCQzdtZr43QewJ/8c9Ww6s lDpZtvBdVBbQYpqMDcGFjq92Pf9jHPb8y1W8x4Y67HsFI79Xww3kXvMvYKCm5Uin +rzPX8j0Zv+JnXUjUjYP =IGit -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig2CE7D6E01E520DA910AD5A8E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 00:22:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95413106564A for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:22:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40928FC13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:22:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so2554912wwe.31 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:21:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=OMU6RS2BzBp5Yo1LFao19bAr2zUwo3vMhpPkEVNk6sw=; b=hbE5mZHph0F9b1IDANuB7pOFsKKY/ereK/kixgwoMVtKMAG2cyB0cKmmqou1x/EBv+ yM+3CvqaAZQKlTKRUwMMA1+rkJyrblRwKwBxbarrPezjdoDHJ9BGfbgIo+k21/68mIWh MqCS48lCQfMyfwxOs2dr5xICf9xKEmWnEFr+E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=utgBHq+Lx83xqFg3um+otmb7pNleWUnWzEDy1Ldg3rS+5y+MSRQGiyqO4EyFU8GhCZ 4AHwtwjRCvHA+r4CoHPfdDtBCaxHuvUbZLI0IpVUY54Tg2hHNX5Tqws8GXtz/8CMhzjC Yi0EAAcu3B7c4azSdjvxp2gfN5eUEi2Iy6oMk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.152.18 with SMTP id e18mr1015645wbw.1.1279758119572; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.12.209 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:21:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C478D04.6020005@FreeBSD.org> References: <4C478D04.6020005@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 02:21:59 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: glarkin@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rmconfig from all ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:22:01 -0000 Hi Greg, Thanks for the "rmconfig-recursive". I did not know about it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 00:26:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF9D1065677 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C4F8FC08 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:26:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so2557340wwe.31 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:26:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=gEQNJAT7czOLoc7/KyZDqwziaJ0vJ1fOCvJYbu/phGw=; b=ggIMqh/RUBF7p9M5EPfVy7XcQiJxxioke5bXyP3jfnB26ABcQmMiTc+eHcoaeo5TR7 VkbVlhlgegw59kMLqu4OkAERAhXNLqBr2VDyjPFl+o21+6KiWaw9BVDZNYUScCkL/wiG tNXhgQiSSPrCRIyF3xUo/CyKlcgxhqFBMlDrw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ZADNUmEIbqdVv7kKWVjr0r0u6XQy3K6ZoFdHhpMqJQludMqxuIJfWVjKtlbety/XzZ 6oB1NnHCkomEVCreW7KB9Oyu5YmD2BtuUJqOkL2uHCulOVhaDp4QM9TCQA4jOE6kvYzi kK7yp3fAQEP53Nlmo45k/MkIG3e2Ho1gQofUs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.68.141 with SMTP id l13mr984678wed.0.1279758378599; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.17.71 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:26:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C46BBCE.2080601@netfence.it> References: <4C46BBCE.2080601@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:26:18 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Andrea Venturoli Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange filesystem problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:26:21 -0000 On 21 July 2010 05:20, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Hello. > > I'm experiencing a strange problem on a 7.2p8/i386 box. > This is not critical, since I have a workaround, but it's annoying and I'm > also curious :-) > > Let's say I have directory "foo"; under "foo" I have "bar" which keeps > thousands of files (in several subdirectories). > > I do: > > %cd /xyzzy/foo > %pwd > xyzzy/foo > %rm -fR bar > %pwd > pwd: .: Permission denied > %cd .. > %cd foo > %pwd > xyzzy/foo > > This is a local UFS filesystem, so it shouldn't be a network problem; no > error shows up in the logs; in "bar" I don't have any symlink or special > node, only plain files and directories. > > What should I check? > I note that /bin/[t]csh uses the external /bin/pwd whereas /bin/sh has it as a builtin. I know (virtu- ally) nothing about bash nor zsh. I would, in any case, suspect the shell, and try at least one other variation. I can't replicate your behaviour here. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 00:53:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1DC1065678; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:53:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817568FC17; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:53:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so2572512wwe.31 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:53:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=lHD43yXHmDAvE99oFu+mU9mGAF0ljGXQ1ouW/WElWrg=; b=qvkwUsqkIUG4Idw2/8gM7ODwN4OT1QGTBVhPdhys3OpEr4ntOZ4VmTPK2PDpXdL2oE QgrJVKavDkqhr+YYZSj/IpK+ArGYvUTOcdge/CnLGtiCX49uWPGen37Se9mSRn0fkE+h GbrzfH4Im5eZutoEj6RvkBtcMvE5EhC+myPLw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=qINmZurgLxSvkZ4RKbOAXAdn+lJ+TyA/Q0dbCHmMNxveBRtOkCWTtyy+E4OXJKQLDu U9oTLKUjDBMIODwmOjgGSbV4N9PalsWY7hO7d7c8x8BJ1an0c1scncaNfha1WWjnTjUU vfPp3vAiAY36V3b4br2SAitdUU1Z7mX8jOsdY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.87.208 with SMTP id y58mr973382wee.82.1279760006993; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.12.209 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:53:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4C478D04.6020005@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 02:53:26 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: glarkin@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rmconfig from all ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:53:31 -0000 in the meantime I wrote the following quick script: #!/bin/sh # Create a list of all dir's find /usr/ports/ -depth 2 -type directory -print > ports_structure # for each discovered dir, cd into it and do rmconfig file=ports_structure while read dr1 do cd $dr1;make rmconfig done<$file very simple script if you ask me. tested and working. Any suggestions/ideas/opinions are welcomed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 01:03:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136EE1065670 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:03:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA568FC17 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:03:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Obk08-0001Vi-NX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:51:05 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:03:01 -0700 Delivered-To: unknown Received: from mail.camdensoftware.com (75.125.250.34) by libertas.local.camdensoftware.com with POP3-SSL; 22 Jul 2010 01:02:36 -0000 Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ObjzI-0001Q5-G8 for sterling@camdensoftware.com; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:50:13 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:02:09 -0700 Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:00:58 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: claudiu vasadi Message-ID: <20100722010058.GA78456@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <4C478D04.6020005@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com Resent-From: sterling@camdensoftware.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:02:09 -0700 Resent-To: Chip Camden X-GetLessMail: inspected by getlessmail X-Spam-Score: 0.000 Resent-From: sterling@camdensoftware.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:03:01 -0700 Resent-To: FreeBSD Questions X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Resent-Message-Id: <20100722010307.136EE1065670@hub.freebsd.org> Cc: Subject: Re: rmconfig from all ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:03:07 -0000 --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth claudiu vasadi on Thursday, 22 July 2010: > in the meantime I wrote the following quick script: >=20 >=20 >=20 > #!/bin/sh >=20 >=20 > # Create a list of all dir's > find /usr/ports/ -depth 2 -type directory -print > ports_structure >=20 > # for each discovered dir, cd into it and do rmconfig > file=3Dports_structure > while read dr1 > do > cd $dr1;make rmconfig > done<$file >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > very simple script if you ask me. tested and working. Any > suggestions/ideas/opinions are welcomed. > _______________________________________________ Since you asked, you don't really need to go to a file: find /usr/ports/ -depth 2 -type directory -print | while read dr1 do cd $dr1;make rmconfig done --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMR5hKAAoJEIpckszW26+RcR0IALbgMCZ9qBhAJpdqWR2DMxoW PbOye0XA+8A4fWd4Nt4dEm26CsKBx2NqIRpqbwWX4x1Fe8BaOTm4iSE0uGraj6Kq gbDjC3c6N7haZy4Zq0p+KtxhVOMEQxiRkclxWZGAp8YHIOKPEg6KsMYsGxJlcUpO BoqMxqk53gndpTsa8olJE6/4CQU5LLTKCNnFRZomlqPHTLQs22nb12AOhHoU0ZFX P/+sbjmNgK0ZsWBU/9Mskc0L/fefMV1JcOv//AUig8mQ5ZUtqg0kDjtCWN0Vnkok B/ROnhAEx7q12GpUFLvLZG/89VTIobTGE9ZMQq9vylwLxMT+UWFPzo4BgW75nMk= =1GXg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 01:16:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2811E106564A for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:16:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30EC8FC13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:16:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so5154186gxk.13 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:16:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=TzwExsKiMbLF5O6SMX9qjvJpeRZRt6OtZykBLM3Q1QM=; b=tIq2geKXjASeiXWHynpFcCbAd5AUUJgJVfDwEttydz+4cGVRkvaes0x4VYO7uoDemk orMhhvymvsZSWAPHMsV3+oNWyaDudCAn6pjJO6jNAGZ6CqvmMMm6qrp2rRjSM3Ynk91r BGNqp9O6DIP+aN8PIHYnJG8SJQTYXVwswDfrk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=f2BLd+CM1xfUqEG4JjeUVsvog6nCnRTm50RgD8HjA2XqLHxYqPFCMoF9qcSm3j4lba Bats+mVLWT/R/Sb4vaU15b7dcs96Xf5Uu1Odx6JpoQE0brnqLOU3F54CI6ijYbYLIt+Z i5Q4Y1smVdZMNgDHKULErr9W9ibw/8D2uObN0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.53.150 with SMTP id m22mr756645qag.316.1279761413274; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.29.71 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:16:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C46C356.6000101@comclark.com> References: <4C452644.6060508@comclark.com> <20100720134205.3168f4f1@scorpio> <4C45EA1C.6070601@comclark.com> <20100720153209.74ec26e6@scorpio> <4C45FCE1.7010006@comclark.com> <20100720163651.0daf727d@scorpio> <4C46BAAD.5000507@unsane.co.uk> <4C46C356.6000101@comclark.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:16:53 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Aiza Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Vincent Hoffman Subject: Re: new jail utility is available. announcement. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:16:55 -0000 On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Aiza wrote: > > Not yet, when I have a spare box I might, although I quite like using >> zfs for jails as you can limit the disk usage dynamically per zfs >> filesystem and I didnt see any support there yet, even basic support >> like there is with ezjail would be nice. >> >> > Zfs was left out because its over kill. Sparse image jails gives the same > protection at a 10th of the overhead. You didn't factor in slowness due to having a file-backed filesystem. While probably pretty low, it's definitely there and not good in an io heavy jail. Also, the host will have to mount a UFS based FS, and cache it so you're going to have increased memory usage. Ideal setup for an io intensive jaill(eg database) is to be bound to compressed ZFS file-system, not a sparse image located on such a setup. I'm not sure what overhead you're referring too. If it's hard to tie into your application, you are probably correct, but from a host perspective you are increasing overhead. There are advantages to sparse or raw file as well, it would be nice to have a choice. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 01:22:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65682106567A for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:22:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0BE8FC17 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:22:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.76]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kny31e0021eYJf8AFpNiM0; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:22:42 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.10] ([76.113.183.74]) by omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kpNf1e0081cjQTw01pNg6u; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:22:42 +0000 References: <4C478C90.4090702@comclark.com> Message-Id: From: Ryan Coleman To: Aiza In-Reply-To: <4C478C90.4090702@comclark.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPad Mail (7B405) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 7B405) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:23:21 -0500 Cc: Ed Flecko , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Install Apache in qjail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:22:43 -0000 Wow man, way to be a dick. On Jul 21, 2010, at 19:10, Aiza wrote: > Ed Flecko wrote: >> Hi folks, >> I'm using the new qjail, and I've created a new jail named >> "webserver", but I don't see how you install a package (in this case, >> Apache 2.2.15) inside the jail? >> I know qjail is pretty new; is the best source of documentation at = the >> moment the "man" pages? >=20 > Read the qjail man page again and this time, "study" what its telling = you. It's all explained in detail. BE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND what the = create command ip address section is telling you. >=20 > The simplest method is > start the jail that you want to install apache in. > Open that jails console. > issue pkg_add -r apache >=20 > If this apache jail is going to use the standard port 80 to listen on, = then the host and any other jails can not use that port number. >=20 > For your info. Being in the jails console you config your jail the = same way you would config your host. >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 03:08:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C381065674 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq4.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq4.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43A88FC12 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:08:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.145] (helo=smtp14.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq4.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Obm9M-0005Wi-BW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 05:08:44 +0200 Received: from [84.25.59.18] (helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp14.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Obm9J-0000J0-Vi for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 05:08:42 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3D73983D for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 04:58:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C47B3DF.1080205@boosten.org> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 04:58:39 +0200 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C478C90.4090702@comclark.com> In-Reply-To: <4C478C90.4090702@comclark.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Obm9J-0000J0-Vi X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.1, vereist 5, BAYES_00 -2.60, CM_META_TB_NOARR 0.50, SPF_PASS -0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Install Apache in qjail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:08:46 -0000 On 22-7-2010 2:10, Aiza wrote: > > If this apache jail is going to use the standard port 80 to listen on, > then the host and any other jails can not use that port number. Nonsense! Since the IP address assigned to the jail is the only one the jail is seeing, Apache will only bind to that IP address. So you can have as many jails running Apache on port 80 as you like, because they only will bind to the IP address belonging to the jail. The only 'challenge' will be configuring Apache on the host itself to only listen to one IP address, instead of *, which is piece of cake. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 01:19:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D96106564A for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:19:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bergdave55@yahoo.com) Received: from web120416.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (web120416.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.85.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D1B058FC08 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:19:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 90035 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jul 2010 00:53:12 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1279759992; bh=MRdvCN2CKMMX2GfM3QcB3wfkhy0WTo1eVEjkEtS3Tto=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6AywiReq+7ig0lQBP15ca9MkMxluZSg8B4LfEUnV4uM6NlA1iAKf8HavRodchTR84amKOU/Qk5mjaO1tyR1GieTSGWe4FiXu9roHpu2GzeoMzVIe4WpieTYmofkumYYSPiDX7xSlnB0e4jN5b8LaSwcKwPjOpJ5R+WyOonHdT1o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qxTMuXrWjEEE6mR7yTg91gw8ONymCB0+9BG3Fah0xnAn09hpu6A2A8zmD1YRgaXgUjClEirrmDrOV3+LIAY2XnECoRlZRavAk67xgYO/rHWlvf9i3zt4fqDvWhnB53hXqeHUDJVwh5bmXF4zDbDkLh1ASmsP1p3pZ7CeOB0En/A=; Message-ID: <167011.83792.qm@web120416.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: cozwlA4VM1mxNpiaCWuOU1.ClOQw1Tue8_xF0_Ip0fQnQiv sPSyLYfbLo99ig2UIh4Q9pzlDuFX1KjXwCdnz.5sNkVavEwF5rP2ytORxegL 0TBZlBnLm9SmmijZUT_N9Cz3ID0Y0sNUOEhLa0OpAbnPVBwl0rWhBYRgr0kF x8Pk.eduiBPkQaN3yU28YThjdHSUMInumWpq.eA-- Received: from [64.81.102.107] by web120416.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:53:12 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/420.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:53:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Berg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 04:18:05 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: remote syslog program specification question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:19:53 -0000 Hi, I've set up remote syslog, and want to have a program specification that will send some messages to the remote server. Right now, I've got the usual 'send everything to the loghost' in syslog.conf: *.* @loghost and what I want to do is: send everything from any facility.level to the loghost EXCEPT things from $program that's level .info or lower. (so anything that's from $program.notice or higher goes to the log server. This is probably blindingly obvious, but I'm too sober to figure it out. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 04:23:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2B81065670 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 04:23:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840978FC1C for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 04:23:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564B63A3918; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:23:25 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1279772605; x= 1281587005; bh=Y1X0yQxHp7NNkjObHSoc8r1MCON8yBsgzUlzu//RBLo=; b=m 4J5o+JXcmzsFyiIcpq2q4Xuxplys1n5H9GH23IVicaabrM932nw1INAnWd+HJH6W 6is1lT9s3Qp5GzDPyJrGIRHvd1Y3Tgbrfie1Cjk/QblOaSxcUR3WVLF4kJ3/zx3e 8uROISrOT6ypswfg/7Hi7FUsDicgkeqws9D7aEJgUw= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 7MmeY8gRB4qV; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:23:25 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD8293A38A4; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:23:24 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o6M4NOXL081510; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:23:24 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:23:24 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <201007220423.o6M4NOXL081510@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: bergdave55@yahoo.com In-reply-to: <167011.83792.qm@web120416.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> (message from Dave Berg on Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:53:12 -0700 (PDT)) References: <167011.83792.qm@web120416.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: remote syslog program specification question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 04:23:27 -0000 > send everything from any facility.level to the loghost EXCEPT things from > $program that's level .info or lower. (so anything that's from $program.notice *.notice @loghost If your program logs to a give facility, for example your program logs to local7: local7.notice @loghost anything using the facility local7, with a level equal or greater than notice, will be sent to the loghost. Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 03:42:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931A41065674 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from caleb.stein@me.com) Received: from asmtpout023.mac.com (asmtpout023.mac.com [17.148.16.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DEFB8FC0C for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:42:49 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from win7x64.mshome.net ([76.121.184.98]) by asmtp023.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0L5X00G7YWUQ6G10@asmtp023.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:42:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1007210138 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-07-22_01:2010-07-21, 2010-07-22, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:42:40 -0700 From: Caleb Stein Message-id: User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.60 (Win32) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 04:24:54 +0000 Subject: Eclipse build fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:42:49 -0000 the last lines of the output can be found here: http://pastebin.com/8VAdvEjH How should I fix this? 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Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:25:28 +0530 (IST) From: ashish@FreeBSD.org (Ashish SHUKLA) To: Markus Hoenicka Organization: The FreeBSD Project References: <19523.21705.648520.937010@yeti.mininet> <86eif0xi0f.fsf@chateau.d.if> <19524.43056.507309.913955@yeti.mininet> <8639vefwkj.fsf@chateau.d.if> <20100720232608.20822abt0h7wwj28@webmail.df.eu> <86eiexplng.fsf@chateau.d.if> <20100721212734.15426ym98pet0doo@webmail.df.eu> <86bpa0k3h2.fsf@chateau.d.if> <20100721222515.14814f2m7z400qsk@webmail.df.eu> X-Face: )vGQ9yK7Y$Flebu1C>(B\gYBm)[$zfKM+p&TT[[JWl6:]S>cc$%-z7-`46Zf0B*syL.C]oCq[upTG~zuS0.$"_%)|Q@$hA=9{3l{%u^h3jJ^Zl; t7 X-Uptime: 10:24:51 up 31 min, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.15, 0.39 X-URL: http://762e5e74.wordpress.com/ X-Operating-System: GNU/Linux/Linux 2.6.34-ARCH/x86_64 X-OpenPGP-ID: E74FA4B0 X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: F682 CDCC 39DC 0FEA E116 20B6 C746 CFA9 E74F A4B0 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.13 X-Mail-Morse: .-- .- .... .--- .- ...- .- .--.-. --. -- .- .. .-.. .-.-.- -.-. --- -- X-Attribution: =?utf-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3?= Organisation: The FreeBSD Project Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:25:24 +0530 In-Reply-To: <20100721222515.14814f2m7z400qsk@webmail.df.eu> (Markus Hoenicka's message of "Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:25:15 +0200") Message-ID: <864ofsxghv.fsf@chateau.d.if> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJ1BMVEWpqal/f39tbW1jY2Md HR2goKCenp6UlJROTk7////9/f35+fnT09ORJdieAAACVklEQVQ4jXXUP2vbQBQA8AvUTkgz5OzY Z0iGWhpS6BSrkECn0mvx0MEJ6AjtYrfoBCVDlD8naJYmNlRfwZq8+mkKlIZaGpJSYmP7Q/XkJDrJ Td8i/H68u3vHPaPufwLdf32AMA4A6GcAgvAamY1pOJiDIFqicTwLswDhfr3uxfFtkAY/GFHPMwzD 8zpnACmIOnE6js7rQb+v4NJrG9od0C+QgpHMy5jBewV+UDSMWiw1Y4fWfyV7+NGFzDsYa3pth9LJ Q4XvXxFHcJRvHOmygn5NAEabnDcQQguarnfoiwSCJ99jmKKcphsZONmWsDK9Ro7cvZOCtQdg8nje egLhc2LNlkLmsezzTFUUy5w18ocox/f0LaLgJy0zO75zk+9pp85GAj36xjqhdI0y3tq2m4dqqcWX zQWBTz8L1irvolXV4J+3q7eCDgVnttjNq6X8H+9KOZsuNk1uCzx8pSp+E9HImfJOTLdcGqo+YKnG EIovizkEn48V7BO+ch2DXcD4ENSpWiU+q8hjjbgTBZCXnZtyj0Ws4Q1Q0B2WXFtYZo65Bbyeeldw RS6qFueM80LlLA29YlVwGRYvFD+kwI/0O+A2PlpOP9GwslUVciHuYGechuBTp922YiDZCrghTknm XSyOM+D3aoRZlo0Jb42zY7DN4p2x4AeZ+QAYutx1sHwTHzMT5cMNduQ9yW3GczN4KZ86kb0c9O8T yXDeFqpl2fryPEAYGXIlezAPXYh2NgVr/gvdoHIuDwuPwOhcWE8f8mmICq41eATkn8x0kuRTIKcB wE9+/QUtiiAnYcaN7wAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Emacs splash screen went to textmode only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 04:55:38 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Markus Hoenicka writes: > Quoting Ashish SHUKLA : >> Well I use a tiling WM (Xmonad), and to reproduce your issue, I started = 12 >> instances of 'xterm' and then started an Emacs instance with '-q >> -no-site-file' which caused Emacs to start with a smaller window >> where I got a >> non-fancy splash screen. >>=20 >> Try starting your Emacs in full-screen mode .e.g. 'emacs -fs'. >>=20 > That works indeed. That is, I just have to make sure Emacs starts up > with a sufficient frame height. emacs -g 80x40 is all it takes. > Thanks a lot for your help! > Markus You're welcome :) =2D-=20 Ashish SHUKLA | GPG: F682 CDCC 39DC 0FEA E116 20B6 C746 CFA9 E74F A4B0 freebsd.org!ashish | http://people.freebsd.org/~ashish/ =E2=80=9CThere are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who do not=E2=80=9D (anonymous) --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJMR88/AAoJEMdGz6nnT6SwBWoP/iQrulD3kS1Q4N78UXI2ZVPq ceT9wATdLrxsB+SQwfLPhnwSf/W+2ME/3/zzA5pOdc8TbKdw0HZeH+RpuRp4+iNq b0kZXWo9YvgiOvmPXmFaO8ts1YymHYx94pQpiqcQOoInUWXHnJCN+9K0GKfyz3q7 Fqmklzm1lYFLaIH7x66rCtbeekTu/ckhIv0s9+yVme2SAMeERXg67HhSszfoqOOW 16yo8+th4sgTiO65rfmx2Q85t646zbygL5yECnHbUBNwREAqh+nj/VvlhH/mY6PP fB54wpe2BcqOrV6JNtwYjv+t2ZbB8v0kaBeUHJ89vRZWdnYbY/NuWqzstUHlN3k8 HGNn/mNIdN0qLHHyAIygpkVZInA3IIFgdn0ijrpU+cHDBOy6WLCJuJWQVB1Ts8BH daKjSZwBcl13nf5PWmBRVj44v8KYwrs7SIjHpMPT4BOf0mV9nZZKHwYOXleyD0Uu 0G3oEs5Sl6pbQ+5qWbMaLYT6DHTJK+eAR690BdVMuMXHrolSR7d6S943/RYHOhjj X8atiCCHxQ4egXww+iosZVKuwhDax1zdGlwbexYUFkIy99375WedOAq6FdiAGGyY bre9dK97r2nVvNaCfP8A9r6a4bPpd2HEoZ9t3jLQkvQsQKS31erpUJFs9ch2MhYf avlLWHloqXeNE4b3feq2 =zsD2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 05:17:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A39B106567D for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 05:17:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nehe@telus.net) Received: from defout.telus.net (defout.telus.net [204.209.205.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6658FC20 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 05:17:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edmwaa02.telusplanet.net ([75.158.0.131]) by priv-edmwes51.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20100722051745.ZKA8591.priv-edmwes51.telusplanet.net@edmwaa02.telusplanet.net> for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:17:45 -0600 Received: from nehe.domain.local (d75-158-0-131.abhsia.telus.net [75.158.0.131]) by edmwaa02.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 12882365678FF44A for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:17:45 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4C47D479.30901@telus.net> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:17:45 -0600 From: Jeff Molofee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100626 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100721055517.B6C321065752@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20100721055517.B6C321065752@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Is "software update" in a working state yet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 05:17:52 -0000 I've noticed software update pop up on the screen quite a bit lately. Initially it popped up and did nothing. Now in 8.1-RC2 it pops up and shows me that I actually have updates. When I click update, it seems like it's actually attempting to upgrade the listed packages, but the entire process always ends with "command 'update-packages' is not known". Do I have something misconfigured or is it still incomplete? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 05:59:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453F0106564A; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 05:59:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rehsack@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F9A8FC17; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 05:59:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so4459865fxm.13 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:59:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eJdt/Tb4woElxzEk3qZ//SgKdVc9lkt5xRxywe3aht0=; b=HgB0yZIObkWxoeC7HOE3rVKRGWFQi4Xoc4JsrM29KjFkl9fdITnSypyvFL6yWnRS/Z 06fHMspMC8sZbdtB+5YbKwpr6yKbPAxRilukqm1xzEYci+V0HLkqjWeY5CxASd/MrREU mdiSvrqZ62YyjsRKY6WzAtOsNpBIIkkaeY4ps= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mXxJ++5aTl4q1ARgmOt2qT3xfcazrgsHlqE4Qb+Y5wQXORGNi/OrZjJpaNj8FcbRWc xUcZwPq40h9dd3aIgUCAotaQOAZVVA9umzt4kJ1ESAbH+bvB2wsdikqk3Sf6YfDEL0JI hGJIIbliU1WtGd0UQQENoH0znWjRctIq63qDY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.164.211 with SMTP id u19mr112931hbd.103.1279778385246; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.190.132 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:59:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100721200002.GA85432@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20100715172615.GC5485@dan.emsphone.com> <86tyo0qd19.fsf@chateau.d.if> <20100716043056.GF5485@dan.emsphone.com> <20100716150719.GG5485@dan.emsphone.com> <4C408744.3030409@netbsd.org> <20100716181316.GH5485@dan.emsphone.com> <4C470615.8030608@netbsd.org> <20100721200002.GA85432@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:59:45 +0200 Message-ID: From: Jens Rehsack To: Dan Nelson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Ashish SHUKLA , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: getpwent bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 05:59:47 -0000 2010/7/21 Dan Nelson : > In the last episode (Jul 21), Jens Rehsack said: >> On 07/16/10 18:13, Dan Nelson wrote: >> >> Hi Dan, >> >> > In the last episode (Jul 16), Jens Rehsack said: >> >> On 07/16/10 15:07, Dan Nelson wrote: >> >>> In the last episode (Jul 16), Jens Rehsack said: >> >>>> Could you please take a look to my other mail (getgrent related) - = there >> >>>> seems another bug ... >> >>> >> >>> Do you have another one-liner that will reproduce it? =A0A simple >> >>> "/usr/bin/getent group" doesn't return dupes for me. =A0Oddly enough= , the >> >>> *grent code doesn't use an internal counter, so the bug you found in >> >>> endpwent doesn't exist in endgrent (afaik; the nsswitch code isn't t= hat >> >>> easy to read). >> >> >> >> Not really a one-liner: >> >> perl -MData::Dumper -e 'setgrent; my %dupchk; while( my ( $name, >> >> $grpass, $gid, $members ) =3D getgrent() ) { print "$name is returned >> >> more than once (No $dupchk{$name} comes here)\n" if( $dupchk{$name}++ >> >> ); print Dumper( [ $name, $grpass, $gid, $members ] ) };' >> >> >> >> setgrent() doesn't work here. >> > >> > I ran that and got dupes for group entries that exist both in /etc/gro= ups and >> > my LDAP source, but that's expected. >> >> You can see here >> http://www.cpantesters.org/cpan/report/f5100ac6-9418-11df-9ebc-c4a68065c= 34d >> the typical error picture. FreeBSD is the only system, where this error >> occurs. > > I don't know how to read perl's test output; what part of that report > failed, and how do you know it was due to getgrent returning duplicate > values? Because I know the error picture - I've seen it on my FreeBSD box first. I probably should add some diag() output for failing tests ... > BTW - I ran your one-liner above on a SLES 10.2 Linux box and a Solaris 1= 0u7 > box, and got duplicate entries where groups existed in both /etc/groups a= nd > LDAP, just like on FreeBSD. =A0I think you may be relying on behaviour th= at > getgrent doesn't guarantee on any OS. But the duplicated entries I get are not duplicated in the source. I sent y= ou my /var/yp/groups file and the output of my one-liner. I have no LDAP setup to try out, but in this case my workaround could be a = good idea. Best regards, Jens From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 06:52:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799381065675 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=b8FwSj=O4=kgb.ro=petre@srs.bis.eu.blackberry.com) Received: from smtp01.bis.eu.blackberry.com (smtp01.bis.eu.blackberry.com [216.9.253.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26988FC19 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:52:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bda067.bisx.produk.on.blackberry (bda067.bisx.produk.on.blackberry [172.24.226.67]) by srs.bis.eu.blackberry.com (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o6M6gW3O001321; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:42:32 GMT Received: from bda067.bisx.produk.on.blackberry (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bda067.bisx.produk.on.blackberry (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o6M6gVdl023067; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:42:31 GMT X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 1938630988 Message-ID: <1938630988-1279780950-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1345666249-@bda088.bisx.produk.on.blackberry> X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Petre Bandac" Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:42:29 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Port upgrade problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: petre@kgb.ro List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:52:44 -0000 Hallo While upgrading port, I have the following problems: - some cfg files are overwritten (authdaemon's authmysqlrc) - some make install options are not kept (maildrop - not compiled against mysql and courier imap - fam is compiled, even though initially was ruled out) The upgrade sequence is: # portsnap fetch update # portmanager -u Am I doing something wrong? Thank yoy for your time, petre -- Petre Bandac Network Scientist - petre@kgb.ro # Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone Romania From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 07:59:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471141065674 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:59:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F088FC1C for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:59:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so4507379fxm.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:59:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=cxpIGFcxs5/j/+qpTVdoBPrWqF5PZYN27h5QHnzft+I=; b=CSI1WdJsQkb5Z1byr+qN9qVOmUo3F8b/IJIjFCePQGap7rjCak+xX1lFeNWsFw8tgf b0ZjimKdXvfJ1PEYH5p2gA9lIPUo10nupOH3dm506l3Z6wzqWBfifKzqHPzWZx31Wl+9 ClkaSPw85+zVI11AXQH9r8zPlBZYUP6avbrrE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Y+NQ68+LXn9AhnyOndK/mRRExB+EeK+W094jdcKyOKPBYQ/JKNKNF5FE8ck096s/vU EVLlS/lbz4esAf+bno2F9IEKU2ZaGbXtA5JyF6v4P/tCHR2EQBU7fPulCg3d44o3j5r8 w/bGsCcQ8jV/Mmg+kf6Cgm0mcUSP4CImKndSA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.180.140 with SMTP id i12mr91769hbg.140.1279785593418; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.160.201 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:59:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4C452644.6060508@comclark.com> <20100720134205.3168f4f1@scorpio> <4C45EA1C.6070601@comclark.com> <20100720153209.74ec26e6@scorpio> <4C45FCE1.7010006@comclark.com> <20100720163651.0daf727d@scorpio> <4C46BAAD.5000507@unsane.co.uk> <4C46C356.6000101@comclark.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:59:53 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Adam Vande More Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Aiza , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Vincent Hoffman Subject: Re: new jail utility is available. announcement. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:59:55 -0000 On 22 July 2010 02:16, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Aiza wrote: > > > > > Not yet, when I have a spare box I might, although I quite like using > >> zfs for jails as you can limit the disk usage dynamically per zfs > >> filesystem and I didnt see any support there yet, even basic support > >> like there is with ezjail would be nice. > >> > >> > > Zfs was left out because its over kill. Sparse image jails gives the same > > protection at a 10th of the overhead. > > > You didn't factor in slowness due to having a file-backed filesystem. > While > probably pretty low, it's definitely there and not good in an io heavy > jail. Also, the host will have to mount a UFS based FS, and cache it so > you're going to have increased memory usage. > > Ideal setup for an io intensive jaill(eg database) is to be bound to > compressed ZFS file-system, not a sparse image located on such a setup. > > even better when we get zfs v22 as we will have dedup. THat has its own memory issues though. > I'm not sure what overhead you're referring too. If it's hard to tie into > your application, you are probably correct, but from a host perspective you > are increasing overhead. > > There are advantages to sparse or raw file as well, it would be nice to > have > a choice. > > -- > Adam Vande More > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 08:28:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DFB106564A for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:28:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6727@bellsouth.net) Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [204.127.217.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE098FC15 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mueller6722.bellsouth.net (adsl-210-187-30.sdf.bellsouth.net[68.210.187.30]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20100722082820H0500hlm0ve>; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:28:21 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.210.187.30] Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:28:45 +0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4c48013d.gPNiF4msgxiXzWRV%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:28:22 -0000 Rich, if you can't get either the installation CD or live-file-system CD to boot (FreeBSD), maybe your computer is allergic to FreeBSD? I've had that problem with both FreeBSD and NetBSD on the older computer (Cx486DX-2 at 66 MHz; 1.2 GB hard drive). One thing that could possibly help is if you could get a custom installation kernel or running kernel, but you'd need a different computer to build it on. Any way to cross-compile a FreeBSD kernel from NetBSD or Linux? Does anybody know? NetBSD guide tells how to make customized installation kernels and media, but I see nothing like that for FreeBSD. You might read the sysinstall man page from FreeBSD web site. Under NOTES This product is currently at the end of its life cycle and will eventu- ally be replaced. Under BUGS, toward the end This utility is a prototype which lasted several years past its expira- tion date and is greatly in need of death. I guess you and I both agree on this last statement. I also have to say that splitting the installation sets into 1392 KB chunks like base.aa, base.ab, and so on, is much less user-friendly and more error-prone than one .tgz or .tbz file for each installation set: base.tgz, etc.tgz, man.tgz and so on. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 09:10:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688441065670 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:10:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Debarshi_Chakravarti@infosys.com) Received: from kecgate02.infosys.com (Kecgate02.infosys.com [122.98.14.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A3E8FC21 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:10:26 +0000 (UTC) X-TM-IMSS-Message-ID: <1f9af07400027c7e@kecgate02.infosys.com> Received: from blrkechub01.ad.infosys.com ([10.66.236.41]) by kecgate02.infosys.com ([122.98.14.32]) with ESMTP (TREND IMSS SMTP Service 7.0) id 1f9af07400027c7e ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:19:04 +0530 Received: from ausmelhcs01.ad.infosys.com (172.21.225.41) by blrkechub01.ad.infosys.com (10.66.236.41) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.375.2; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:25:22 +0530 Received: from AUSMELMBX01.ad.infosys.com ([172.21.225.21]) by AUSMELHCS01.ad.infosys.com ([172.21.225.41]) with mapi; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:55:20 +1000 From: Debarshi Chakravarti To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:55:18 +1000 Thread-Topic: FreeBSD for intel(r) Xeon(r) Processor X5560 Thread-Index: Acspe5wOoP3h8UBqRoymjC+HhzCH5g== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD for intel(r) Xeon(r) Processor X5560 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:10:28 -0000 Hi, I am interested in having a production grade BIND9 implementation on FreeBS= D. My hardware is as below Intel(r) Xeon(r) Processor X5560 I learned from the site that FreeBSD for ia64 is still in TIER2. Can you pl= ease advise me on the below. 1. When it will be moved to TIER1. 2. If I go ahead with the current release what is the risk? Please note this implementation would be mission critical. Thanks in advance. Regards, Debarshi Chakravarti From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 09:17:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7F7106566C for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:17:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252E88FC17 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:17:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22663A3922; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:17:13 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1279790233; x= 1281604633; bh=8ZcN1ZipEEIwq8vHJl6V35RNqMT1z/5eXXm+CAyo+sE=; b=F BKvQTDrverXWviaq4D6RyyWbMBYxiGdvZ5yMJwwxfjzqqBaHXBp8oJKEzKfG6cfJ uc+3SmHacFqL6mb45YeAwbGMmM843maHL3dt5/C3WHjcnMES1VH6OGwn0aQvQ6FA AZdLNiOwUpAuZ+KTk3vESlclXhe/tcbKJscsXYV9SA= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id QTc1b54RHD8s; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:17:13 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9041A3A381D; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:17:13 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o6M9HCKo084685; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:17:12 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:17:12 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <201007220917.o6M9HCKo084685@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: Debarshi_Chakravarti@infosys.com In-reply-to: (message from Debarshi Chakravarti on Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:55:18 +1000) References: Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD for intel(r) Xeon(r) Processor X5560 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:17:15 -0000 Hi, > Intel(r) Xeon(r) Processor X5560 > I learned from the site that FreeBSD for ia64 is still in TIER2. Can > you please advise me on the below. For Intel Xeon, I think you want the amd64 branch. ia64 would be for Ithanium. Bests, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 10:49:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26781065670 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:49:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60FD08FC14 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:49:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so4604490fxm.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:49:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=P30IwILH9YRJBNuRfJx/l5stwAQNfV1cNCP/k1jqz3Q=; b=LKhUfWWxZuLzsmWRbeJvL7b1MBz5EjNAkHFpnlAYGG+SxgH9g212mzuzvHXw0QqfeD MYkSqgBEsr5/W5DYsX4FO0i7eT6H1+iVfUrwZD8aOUAVwhSR10Vegqx0nINV/2dq5RIN QD/Oj1/RFq4Ykx8qoooaQqfc4plftq4ROcsRs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=uV5JYc7v58H0SUpXHOJTE0bjPqduLgb6/K3y6hBN5UP7WwY3aeXArvdG5xuL/8xffl h2l3OxNi9b2LzdJRBrroxTHd/oC07nn1ZBCxS0zOuC2mrl37cZBxLlY/MJMzkbSS8dH4 yooiQC8lcf7cdWwH8ynh2y/901fW+obPKRLkc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.133.6 with SMTP id 6mr117579hbt.142.1279795752033; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.160.201 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:49:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201007220917.o6M9HCKo084685@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <201007220917.o6M9HCKo084685@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:49:11 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Olivier Nicole Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Debarshi_Chakravarti@infosys.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD for intel(r) Xeon(r) Processor X5560 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:49:14 -0000 On 22 July 2010 10:17, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > > Intel(r) Xeon(r) Processor X5560 > > > I learned from the site that FreeBSD for ia64 is still in TIER2. Can > > you please advise me on the below. > > For Intel Xeon, I think you want the amd64 branch. ia64 would be for > Ithanium. > > Bests, > > Olivier > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > We run 20+ large dns caches at work running on freebsd 8 (64bit) one dell 2950 with no major problems. The CPUs are "Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU 5140 @ 2.33GHz" and have 4gb ram, so you should be fine. Just make sure that you limit the size of the caches. I generally leave about 512 MB for the base os and let the cache use the rest. BIND will only use 4GB max though (32bit internal memory addressing), although that might be per cache. If you use views you might want to look at the attach cache feature, to boost cache efficiency. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 11:26:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD471065673 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:26:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD588FC1C for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:26:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6MBQidU001722; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:26:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o6MBQhUD001721; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:26:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:26:43 +0200 From: Ruben de Groot To: krad Message-ID: <20100722112643.GA1570@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , krad , Cristiano Deana , "Aryeh M. Friedman" , FreeBSD-Questions References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:26:47 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Cristiano Deana , "Aryeh M. Friedman" , FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:26:50 -0000 On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 07:35:48PM +0100, krad typed: > > while we are on the topic of debugging I would recomend exim as an MTA. I > manage a few large enterprise mail systems with 10M + active accounts. A lot > of them are legacy systems that we gained through acquisitions. I generally > have to support them until we can get the accounts migrated onto the main > platform. They are a mixture of exim, postfix, qmail, and sendmail, and > quite often are in a poor state when we first get our hands on them. I have > to say when you are getting mail routing issues exim is by the far the > easiest to debug mainly due to the -bt option. When you combine it with the > debug flag it produced a very detailed output on the mail routing. I have > never found such a feature in all the other MTA's above. Actually, the -bt option comes from sendmail originally ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 12:05:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701FB1065678 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6798FC1B for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:05:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6MC5TpJ001932; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:05:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o6MC5TI0001931; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:05:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:05:29 +0200 From: Ruben de Groot To: Peter Boosten Message-ID: <20100722120529.GB1570@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Peter Boosten , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C478C90.4090702@comclark.com> <4C47B3DF.1080205@boosten.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C47B3DF.1080205@boosten.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:05:33 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install Apache in qjail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:05:36 -0000 On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 04:58:39AM +0200, Peter Boosten typed: > On 22-7-2010 2:10, Aiza wrote: > > > > If this apache jail is going to use the standard port 80 to listen on, > > then the host and any other jails can not use that port number. > > Nonsense! Indeed > Since the IP address assigned to the jail is the only one the jail is > seeing, Apache will only bind to that IP address. So you can have as > many jails running Apache on port 80 as you like, because they only will > bind to the IP address belonging to the jail. > > The only 'challenge' will be configuring Apache on the host itself to > only listen to one IP address, instead of *, which is piece of cake. Actually, not even that is necessary. A socket on the host bound to INADDR_ANY is overridden by the more specific IP address in the jail, at least on my systems (not using multi IP jails yet, so maybe that's different) So you can run e.g. sshd on the host and all jails without having to specify a ListenAddress anywhere. Only thing is that you'll get connected to the host if sshd in the jail would stop or go down. Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 12:32:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C221065676 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2898FC19 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:32:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so4666093fxm.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 05:32:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=moEj8im/JP0lLvSgxjaBNSntLGr9B7IMmZnnLw1mWcM=; b=h4S69gtEOdgYOJ0h9NM71MQjl6JXSSAiJ8K1uwkFAXBp3CVpXhCk0gnB/p1aQ5gVs7 BUucGcySbyj0rIPRCIFMyrFdIqfojqz3NWSB3rK5lYcSBGr9vNEIkNF+ER0Fbruxnh0a ZhY6wrd7HgpUpS+th/OotyplSAh+X63QQgbB0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=G1HUkFsEZF5sAjzp8m8h+sOERM16D5dHEYVdyUJeVtdC/Rg8eWdMwvEQ+J0IL0Qlzy UPtsGGT/1ZlKvlf4dXGnqU10My/w6sOp6bSeyQa29D9UyITxFzUM03gxdCljdFvpmJXI fXEWnuRkuF7ttiQaNj7vJFh29FvtdiXNAMXp0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.153.5 with SMTP id x5mr111545hbb.128.1279801957001; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 05:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.160.201 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 05:32:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100722112643.GA1570@ei.bzerk.org> References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> <20100722112643.GA1570@ei.bzerk.org> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:32:36 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Ruben de Groot , krad , Cristiano Deana , "Aryeh M. Friedman" , FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:32:39 -0000 On 22 July 2010 12:26, Ruben de Groot wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 07:35:48PM +0100, krad typed: > > > > while we are on the topic of debugging I would recomend exim as an MTA. I > > manage a few large enterprise mail systems with 10M + active accounts. A > lot > > of them are legacy systems that we gained through acquisitions. I > generally > > have to support them until we can get the accounts migrated onto the main > > platform. They are a mixture of exim, postfix, qmail, and sendmail, and > > quite often are in a poor state when we first get our hands on them. I > have > > to say when you are getting mail routing issues exim is by the far the > > easiest to debug mainly due to the -bt option. When you combine it with > the > > debug flag it produced a very detailed output on the mail routing. I have > > never found such a feature in all the other MTA's above. > > Actually, the -bt option comes from sendmail originally ;) > > yep I know exim is sendmail cli compatible, but the output from sendmail is not the same on exim (interactive prompt). You can probably get similar output from sendmail, but with most things sendmail it is archaic and obfuscated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 13:52:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 940F21065673 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:52:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AFD98FC1A for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:52:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so202209vws.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.124.40 with SMTP id s40mr729525vcr.42.1279806776900; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:52:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m11sm2219100vcg.6.2010.07.22.06.52.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:52:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AC4B5E54826 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:52:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:52:53 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100722095253.38994437@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> <20100722112643.GA1570@ei.bzerk.org> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:52:58 -0000 On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:32:36 +0100 krad articulated: > yep I know exim is sendmail cli compatible, but the output from sendmail is > not the same on exim (interactive prompt). You can probably get similar > output from sendmail, but with most things sendmail it is archaic and > obfuscated. With Postfix installed, using "sendmail -bv" works quite well. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 14:08:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC54A106564A for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:08:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edflecko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BD28FC08 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:08:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so10037898iwn.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:08:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ibYtYk0EcbZN9mpsIx7NAEtXnHoWr3oLpKmZvs7u7gM=; b=q0lnpG78EkZ+G2a92yXMB+2XvAjs91gFrjlKQntKptOeKBwXp7IOCfR2fa2fypu+NK pkHzD472DQdsbTXDhNLb9FbZU8NzVFyBWv09a3vKIioWzpzPIcWCh1M8KvjFkoHEmeBm P31G9UsrckrdnLlCF5HdqJ8RTYTE0FxSe9c/4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MvNewkCQexxbj7iLcYAEkBR19DV7hxPN+M/uQFi8lSI1ykB8FpqsPYyvnrrGh7qF+9 MSQqKTosnHF+RSwN3hWgjkwgOXXXCFm4q4fBEAdST3lvMAc8rcj1bnzHPNDyGMu8fnF0 VO2CjnpG9AFojbv0WfrSJkcLYRcE1qXZ9SHMY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.147.202 with SMTP id m10mr813139ibv.2.1279807733568; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.118.98 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:08:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100722120529.GB1570@ei.bzerk.org> References: <4C478C90.4090702@comclark.com> <4C47B3DF.1080205@boosten.org> <20100722120529.GB1570@ei.bzerk.org> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:08:53 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ed Flecko To: Ruben de Groot , Peter Boosten , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: Install Apache in qjail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:08:54 -0000 Gentlemen, Since the ONLY instance of Apache on this box will BE the one I'm installing in the jail, I should just be able to connect to it by its IP address...just like any other web server. Yes? No? Am I missing something? Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 14:13:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4FB1065674 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:13:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610108FC17 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:13:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from overdrive.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EA645F7419; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:13:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:13:41 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Ed Flecko Message-Id: <20100722101341.6db8ae5d.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: References: <4C478C90.4090702@comclark.com> <4C47B3DF.1080205@boosten.org> <20100722120529.GB1570@ei.bzerk.org> Organization: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Ruben de Groot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Peter Boosten Subject: Re: Install Apache in qjail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:13:43 -0000 In response to Ed Flecko : > Gentlemen, > Since the ONLY instance of Apache on this box will BE the one I'm > installing in the jail, I should just be able to connect to it by its > IP address...just like any other web server. > > Yes? No? Am I missing something? Yes. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 14:19:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F117B106566C for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:19:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA648FC13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:19:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id l0zf1e0020lTkoCA72KXE2; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:19:31 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.9] ([76.113.183.74]) by omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id l2KV1e0091cjQTw8Q2KWMz; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:19:31 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <4c48013d.gPNiF4msgxiXzWRV%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:19:28 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9CAC47BC-6209-4B09-9522-85FC11DECDC5@cwis.biz> References: <4c48013d.gPNiF4msgxiXzWRV%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> To: User Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:19:32 -0000 I agree, but I might start pulling parts and see if it works then. swap = video cards if you can, etc. On Jul 22, 2010, at 3:28 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > Rich, if you can't get either the installation CD or live-file-system = CD to=20 > boot (FreeBSD), maybe your computer is allergic to FreeBSD? I've had = that > problem with both FreeBSD and NetBSD on the older computer (Cx486DX-2 = at > 66 MHz; 1.2 GB hard drive). One thing that could possibly help is if = you > could get a custom installation kernel or running kernel, but you'd = need > a different computer to build it on. =20 >=20 > Any way to cross-compile a FreeBSD kernel from NetBSD or Linux? Does = anybody > know? NetBSD guide tells how to make customized installation kernels = and > media, but I see nothing like that for FreeBSD. >=20 > You might read the sysinstall man page from FreeBSD web site. Under = NOTES >=20 > This product is currently at the end of its life cycle and will = eventu- > ally be replaced. >=20 > Under BUGS, toward the end >=20 > This utility is a prototype which lasted several years past its = expira- > tion date and is greatly in need of death. >=20 > I guess you and I both agree on this last statement. I also have to = say that > splitting the installation sets into 1392 KB chunks like base.aa, = base.ab,=20 > and so on, is much less user-friendly and more error-prone than one = .tgz or > .tbz file for each installation set: base.tgz, etc.tgz, man.tgz and so = on. >=20 > Tom > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 14:28:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25BC71065674 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:28:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14878FC13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:28:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4so976904gyg.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:28:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=qbGa68SPgMzR80/OwljdyZa9vOXmZijlxoAvImv5iIw=; b=COFqfoIDf1uXlny55l/V1qJxobJLyidhulnGlxR0+ez08L2BQ4EDpOJ9Rdwn3AzSfz boPOPi9O/LNazQBvJEWDku1b727wETFlJm9bo+C55BHnN96PnxeBpj30HAwUur9yuFn4 HmWNRfCK/dUHEPoyztO7FbwJtVsN6zmeUml3M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=n9OJFYVwyf6S/FNp4QaSDlyaBs4F2oZsvlocM94repjIliG9NKtuyglzzVdUO35hXh 69E1VzdiiE6V9fCcCO/3699JP4ohIbhvi7IrjHpTLNbfaiof467lHtfdFJl4eswJuZeM n2WYmxkbjBSaON6yR6dmv82U3H3RPvTDEMjHw= Received: by 10.224.28.209 with SMTP id n17mr1353372qac.327.1279808900216; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:28:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.183.211 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:28:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100722095253.38994437@scorpio> References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> <20100722112643.GA1570@ei.bzerk.org> <20100722095253.38994437@scorpio> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:28:00 +0300 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:28:21 -0000 On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Jerry wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:32:36 +0100 > krad articulated: > > > > yep I know exim is sendmail cli compatible, but the output from sendmail > is > > not the same on exim (interactive prompt). You can probably get similar > > output from sendmail, but with most things sendmail it is archaic and > > obfuscated. > > With Postfix installed, using "sendmail -bv" works quite well. > With Postfix installed and configured or just installed? I just installed. [wash@mail ~]$ ls -al /usr/local/sbin/sendmail -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 202361 Jul 22 17:23 /usr/local/sbin/sendmail [wash@mail ~]$ /usr/local/sbin/sendmail -bv odhiambo@gmail.com postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory Mail Delivery Status Report will be mailed to . [wash@mail ~]$ /usr/local/sbin/sendmail -d -bv odhiambo@gmail.com sendmail: illegal option -- d sendmail: illegal option -- d sendmail: fatal: usage: sendmail [options] [wash@mail ~]$ exim -bt odhiambo@gmail.com odhiambo@gmail.com router = dnslookup, transport = remote_smtp host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [209.85.227.27] MX=5 host alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [74.125.39.27] MX=10 host alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [74.125.53.27] MX=20 host alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [74.125.95.27] MX=30 host alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [74.125.65.27] MX=40 I cannot post the output that comes with -d here, it's so much that trying to feed the trawl will get it chocked:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 14:39:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B165106567C for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:39:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACBA8FC16 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:39:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Obwvc-0007Dg-FG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:39:16 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6MEdASI009279 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:39:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o6MEdAhd009278 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:39:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:39:10 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100722143910.GA9261@current.Sisis.de> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Subject: where is pfm2afm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:39:23 -0000 Hello, Is 'pfm2afm' part of some port in /usr/ports? Thanks in advance matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 14:47:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA4F106564A for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:47:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D258FC1B for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:47:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id l2Wk1e0081zF43QA92nuA4; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:47:54 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.9] ([76.113.183.74]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id l2nt1e0021cjQTw8k2nuKH; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:47:54 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <20100722143910.GA9261@current.Sisis.de> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:47:52 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8333827E-9AE5-4374-91EC-68B620BEFBBB@cwis.biz> References: <20100722143910.GA9261@current.Sisis.de> To: User Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Subject: Re: where is pfm2afm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:47:55 -0000 It converts Postscript Font files into Adobe Font Manager files. I've have not a use for it (yet). On Jul 22, 2010, at 9:39 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hello, >=20 > Is 'pfm2afm' part of some port in /usr/ports? Thanks in advance >=20 > matthias > --=20 > Matthias Apitz > t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 > e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ > Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! > =BFSolidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? =A1No en mi = nombre! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 14:57:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DB51065674 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:57:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE30B8FC1B for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:57:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ObxCx-0005WQ-N5; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:57:11 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6MEvBPI009384; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:57:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o6MEvALm009383; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:57:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:57:10 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Ryan Coleman Message-ID: <20100722145710.GB9261@current.Sisis.de> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , Ryan Coleman , User Questions References: <20100722143910.GA9261@current.Sisis.de> <8333827E-9AE5-4374-91EC-68B620BEFBBB@cwis.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <8333827E-9AE5-4374-91EC-68B620BEFBBB@cwis.biz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: where is pfm2afm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:57:16 -0000 El día Thursday, July 22, 2010 a las 09:47:52AM -0500, Ryan Coleman escribió: > It converts Postscript Font files into Adobe Font Manager files. > > I've have not a use for it (yet). Background of my question is the need of Type 1 font files which cover most of the European Unicode scripts for the usage in CUPS. In some FAQ I read: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Font-HOWTO/ 9.2. Type 1 Fonts and Metafont 9.2.1. Dealing With Mac and Windows Formats Many foundries ship fonts with Windows and Mac users in mind. This can sometimes pose a problem. Typically, the ``Windows fonts'' are fairly easy to handle, because they are packed in a zip file. The only work to be done is converting the pfm file to and afm file (using pfm2afm).... That's why the question: > > Is 'pfm2afm' part of some port in /usr/ports? Thanks in advance matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 15:00:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039DC1065670 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:00:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc2-cmbg1-0-0-cust385.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [82.21.105.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC2A8FC17 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:00:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan by catflap.slightlystrange.org with local (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ObxGC-000HkO-9I; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:00:32 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:00:32 +0100 From: Daniel Bye To: User Questions Message-ID: <20100722150032.GB54396@catflap.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: User Questions , Matthias Apitz , Ryan Coleman References: <20100722143910.GA9261@current.Sisis.de> <8333827E-9AE5-4374-91EC-68B620BEFBBB@cwis.biz> <20100722145710.GB9261@current.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100722145710.GB9261@current.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-PRERELEASE amd64 Sender: Daniel Bye Cc: Matthias Apitz , Ryan Coleman Subject: Re: where is pfm2afm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:00:34 -0000 --8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 04:57:10PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Thursday, July 22, 2010 a las 09:47:52AM -0500, Ryan Coleman esc= ribi=F3: >=20 > > It converts Postscript Font files into Adobe Font Manager files. > >=20 > > I've have not a use for it (yet). >=20 > Background of my question is the need of Type 1 font files which cover > most of the European Unicode scripts for the usage in CUPS. >=20 > In some FAQ I read: >=20 > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Font-HOWTO/ >=20 > 9.2. Type 1 Fonts and Metafont > 9.2.1. Dealing With Mac and Windows Formats > Many foundries ship fonts with Windows and Mac users in mind. This can > sometimes pose a problem. Typically, the ``Windows fonts'' are fairly > easy to handle, because they are packed in a zip file. The only work to > be done is converting the pfm file to and afm file (using pfm2afm).... >=20 > That's why the question: >=20 > > > Is 'pfm2afm' part of some port in /usr/ports? Thanks in advance print/ghostscript* installs something called pf2afm, which seems to be the same thing. Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxIXRAACgkQixf5fBYiFmrj6wCdFa2YHsUOrHePNZuZpShcJsSN nrAAn1xLNiS0yAqCPFmnSarVRHOOuwc9 =USO8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 17:28:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C1B81065670 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:28:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A459D8FC19 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:28:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so478901vws.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.122.95 with SMTP id k31mr876546vcr.153.1279819737450; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b8sm2321613vci.45.2010.07.22.10.28.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 535AEE54826 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:28:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:28:54 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100722132854.07cbf915@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> <20100722112643.GA1570@ei.bzerk.org> <20100722095253.38994437@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAG1BMVEX3/uPVnZf2/v9ejGkqHB74++H///+cHCT3m6cgqYvfAAACbElEQVQ4jWXTQW/bIBQAYJLJuRMn8TVCss9zTdrrXJ6bHe1Ej/bossF9EpJ3nbapf3sP8JxOQ4qV8OU9HvjBROWcYNlKHtxlQ1/huBaOBiMwQtgHhbokMLIT76Acps5hvy61+6WsjkCZzNEW0+fcQ7Nl5uoPCegjjjhN5/MEABd89k9hXkQoX6cwPIDKCt8tYG5wpmdrxAyuolTPqpiVoEpVCWvl6e00RAD4JBJQnO4lvv0O4Cnd3WUGevYNFohxFYAy7jCCtW39LaQK8BgDAgiHVinVJlCiFKlcqgEHfwb1EuG+DwFGMO3oCIuJIEYoa8KJECBB+UBldgm0MQmEGz7GQr8XYRPKzYNO1zZ8mgdAu4BG5Ke/4KFboM8458UScViAAvYD93OAsu+Bc3zxCU7ZAjT74+dQv9K7oO0d1wuscop48Pc50O5bcVwgGzh/mXzaizJuAWERh8k3eaxKmxu4kV1p2XOEg3i3c8M+EKR93P0D1KATpC55vMHaGqFf5f/AwhlrhHgg8DTezopt6I3o3Qx4q4q6YaPxK8RxcClXeFGhTTS++QR6TS/oBs7l4WhzuNMubZG6hIBkF4qqZVdWczIqSrjKVF/i4o26IP2oElBGFy5CXKSnf6UWDTC6zKSqoAvzsakjjBvdzLKnmxdhY8eRsX7VSCUBdgD1hVJpx6y2OOS1DNDILYmqdWUJ+oHvd0rRvAqX5kpxQMR6yxHzPV6VlPFyWE7LKc36keNQI64gLP8Ybgtmg+zYuBl4fuI8VqW2RqDGE8Uzu7GxGa803whDdxx3bSZbRhfQUSxvmnpLZWpRFqHz7v8AvsBe0S1zv9UAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:28:59 -0000 On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:28:00 +0300 Odhiambo Washington articulated: > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Jerry wrote: > > > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:32:36 +0100 > > krad articulated: > > > > > > > yep I know exim is sendmail cli compatible, but the output from sendmail > > is > > > not the same on exim (interactive prompt). You can probably get similar > > > output from sendmail, but with most things sendmail it is archaic and > > > obfuscated. > > > > With Postfix installed, using "sendmail -bv" works quite well. > > > > With Postfix installed and configured or just installed? I just installed. > > [wash@mail ~]$ ls -al /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 202361 Jul 22 17:23 /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > [wash@mail ~]$ /usr/local/sbin/sendmail -bv odhiambo@gmail.com > postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or > directory > Mail Delivery Status Report will be mailed to . > > [wash@mail ~]$ /usr/local/sbin/sendmail -d -bv odhiambo@gmail.com > sendmail: illegal option -- d > sendmail: illegal option -- d > sendmail: fatal: usage: sendmail [options] > > [wash@mail ~]$ exim -bt odhiambo@gmail.com > odhiambo@gmail.com > router = dnslookup, transport = remote_smtp > host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [209.85.227.27] MX=5 > host alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [74.125.39.27] MX=10 > host alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [74.125.53.27] MX=20 > host alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [74.125.95.27] MX=30 > host alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [74.125.65.27] MX=40 > > I cannot post the output that comes with -d here, it's so much that trying > to feed the trawl will get it chocked:-) > > For starters, you are using the wrong sendmail. You need to use the Postfix 'sendmail' version. $ which sendmail /usr/sbin/sendmail I have Postfix installed and running. Sorry, I thought that was obvious. Typing: "man sendmail" should show this at the top of the page: "NAME sendmail - Postfix to Sendmail compatibility interface" If not, then something is configured incorrectly. By the way, in order to run Postfix, you have to completely shutdown the base system's 'sendmail' cat /etc/rc.conf # Shutdown sendmail sendmail_enable="NO" sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" #Start Postfix postfix_enable="YES" -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 17:43:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F141065672 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:43:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=81269ec9b=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-001.utdallas.edu (ip-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1568FC16 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:43:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: None X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvcFAOoZSEyBbgogTmdsb2JhbACTMoxLAQEiQsIShTYEhAA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,243,1278306000"; d="scan'208";a="36322329" Received: from zxtm01.utdallas.edu (HELO utd65257.utdallas.edu) ([129.110.10.32]) by ip-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 22 Jul 2010 12:15:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:15:10 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <0757B361DE6FED4B484BE83C@utd65257.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: References: <4C478D04.6020005@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: rmconfig from all ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:43:34 -0000 --On Thursday, July 22, 2010 02:21:59 +0200 claudiu vasadi wrote: > Hi Greg, > > Thanks for the "rmconfig-recursive". I did not know about it. Nor did I. And it begs the question - is there a way to find out what all the make targets are in /usr/ports? Is this documented anywhere? -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 17:51:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5A5106564A for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:51:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8158FC0C for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:51:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-179-206.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.179.206]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F24D3D760; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:51:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o6MHpCTV002052; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:51:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:51:12 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Paul Schmehl Message-Id: <20100722195112.f46d6244.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <0757B361DE6FED4B484BE83C@utd65257.utdallas.edu> References: <4C478D04.6020005@FreeBSD.org> <0757B361DE6FED4B484BE83C@utd65257.utdallas.edu> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rmconfig from all ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:51:24 -0000 On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:15:10 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > And it begs the question - is there a way to find out what all the > make targets are in /usr/ports? Is this documented anywhere? Yes, "man 7 ports", section TARGETS. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 17:54:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C42106566C for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:54:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFAA8FC1D for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:54:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so508924vws.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:54:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cZD1Itfz2aep1q1/lcGHkF+GzWnIDxiDUHTcKqyjW+w=; b=Seoj1RUN0rDoHxQnwP9GfSpS61M24BHfnX+ALiwfKqXpB1M9OOOG/M+uniZkCAjNs8 KQxavXyWgha4ugDMT4+CF6pz4lyx3mBgNuY69KIp0GGu/Px8XXe1M2WYFhEUtDa0cUfz woRfps9eyExRGD3pFbwRl0dZcFbiuy8aoaY9o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=H6aQPvXCxKFnd7kPwoafNBJxcBoS45CXFIZY+AS7tTBp59sV5a89BrqeRNRrbolZ1S c5JKezHmN1SEKt4BFEmuOvevomlxDmhGwiNaLeE76mjEaGjtT9SG2TCPG88XzVZ+ufYg G8BNi2uJGtpdJocwoMsBj4WKoC6uJZfmmNjJs= Received: by 10.220.169.131 with SMTP id z3mr5613391vcy.1.1279821249793; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e31sm20388139vbm.7.2010.07.22.10.54.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C4885BE.9000601@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:54:06 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schmehl References: <4C478D04.6020005@FreeBSD.org> <0757B361DE6FED4B484BE83C@utd65257.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <0757B361DE6FED4B484BE83C@utd65257.utdallas.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rmconfig from all ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:54:11 -0000 On 7/22/10 1:15 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Thursday, July 22, 2010 02:21:59 +0200 claudiu vasadi > wrote: > >> Hi Greg, >> >> Thanks for the "rmconfig-recursive". I did not know about it. > > Nor did I. And it begs the question - is there a way to find out what > all the make targets are in /usr/ports? Is this documented anywhere? > Hi, This is documented in ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk - look for the string "Default targets and their behaviors:". Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 17:56:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5051D106567A for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07888FC18 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:56:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so1007283wyj.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:56:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Fg2BiKvFSUTFGo8hGw14tGFfDeVwB1VWzO9V8sYCGQQ=; b=f70Q7Hylv3fVJ20zr/1S6UQ8SrDm+wMmCuNUTr2GH6DAmZANDImx4xdYhjhbDuBW9D yR92+EjrPpQkFBxngSFnGG+SXpPOkf6FnwDInYgqRaiRB9d5WllUzpoYomPMsp2FtckW 3DVW0wyUNIb/lTK0Gqxp3S3Ir/R/S0XX8PYCs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eVLTuAZzbdsLEAlGWKd9uKOFCvABau4ahuMglTOODJ/P0v4aFIeul+Um2J2VxYKoVe GlfUSWcJjM7uWILp4u0Y1PBeTNKM38szDEriwjtxTk8L5uA+rEsgqVCngebT/dfWP6I9 VPijmAb5CyO1Fkt5nRHBszp0dqDAbma+J/0KE= Received: by 10.227.157.138 with SMTP id b10mr959845wbx.13.1279821388452; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p82sm4228966weq.3.2010.07.22.10.56.27 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:56:25 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100722185625.1855fc0f@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20100722132854.07cbf915@scorpio> References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> <20100722112643.GA1570@ei.bzerk.org> <20100722095253.38994437@scorpio> <20100722132854.07cbf915@scorpio> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:56:30 -0000 On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:28:54 -0400 Jerry wrote: > For starters, you are using the wrong sendmail. You need to use the > Postfix 'sendmail' version. > > $ which sendmail > /usr/sbin/sendmail > > I have Postfix installed and running. Sorry, I thought that was > obvious. > > Typing: "man sendmail" should show this at the top of the page: > > "NAME sendmail - Postfix to Sendmail compatibility interface" On FreeBSD /usr/sbin/sendmail is a link to mailwrapper(8), which is a part of the base system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 18:15:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F153106568F for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rl001@pacbell.net) Received: from web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1B608FC12 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:15:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14884 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jul 2010 18:15:24 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pacbell.net; s=s1024; t=1279822523; bh=FrUebNbWwPOYr5TpRW0c+AgdDxU/PZs9TkM6ZwArPMk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qcJYkZxe1ECYMGbG3h5H8wNOQv5pk/da2vmCw+u71y4mUSS7ZkqMMcppF5BAH4mZPX08PXy5yDvdiopiFXrO3M1RC6uSsSN0LhLMBm8/TiRfwPVYBOjDJcHq0+PSvBJhzBjxbt7KXlPBQvPagwkMyhV4ewFK67/CE+wKnQpN2wo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ui5xyxlLzHkGk5QO6MKSov2ouaAg59kqMgciD0muXzjrc1dlRoF9BJZ14X0sBj1oOgl2mq4QDXTHf39DElnM6LWmvrGBEgmbtwGZNE5DcwVqTT072Sz9tL5F6dK+V65dHIi/vKaHTAnfolYjPaCWblT1CPje9wcj7ErzpoUa1CQ=; Message-ID: <881133.14556.qm@web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: KfAiU.YVM1nF5TUgpZQYWPSyUqX3uRaaUl76_0WSfiJwJPg yyNNcPdtWIURohcD5j0DkZJ4bQNlUir8QLY_DzpI3oJ6gwBkGkF4cXNXxxaJ ZaKhEGv0wzECdhNPdmoNJoQyB3QgmlHouIRlqwFb67zyKrVs4Ji99lXmZhEi y8fI2bulWStiWaSyUFce.pE1jEFJXR_EoiqdPiRabj5G2Zlsa2n.9q_j7WHw Sh2xB7qDY9klnbzYXAQdgiLyYwlBtS62vwUigx0jBjUGtIufb0r9B09tWVl4 wlZ0jz8FEpy1N_jikFUAMnCBvoy.vsp_sDJgekHunAjqpECxCasupQUWQZeS GoTABOf945g-- Received: from [71.139.177.219] by web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:15:23 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/420.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 References: <4c48013d.gPNiF4msgxiXzWRV%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> <9CAC47BC-6209-4B09-9522-85FC11DECDC5@cwis.biz> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:15:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich To: Ryan Coleman , User Questions In-Reply-To: <9CAC47BC-6209-4B09-9522-85FC11DECDC5@cwis.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:15:25 -0000 No I'm not going to start ripping my computer apart because FreeBSD can't deal with my hard drive. I think the problem is a shortcoming in FreeBSD where it can't deal with drives that have old stale RAID metadata on them. I'm just going to have to wait until they can. Until then no FreeBSD for me. Back to crappy windows. ________________________________ From: Ryan Coleman To: User Questions Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 7:19:28 AM Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " I agree, but I might start pulling parts and see if it works then. swap video cards if you can, etc. On Jul 22, 2010, at 3:28 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > Rich, if you can't get either the installation CD or live-file-system CD to > boot (FreeBSD), maybe your computer is allergic to FreeBSD? I've had that > problem with both FreeBSD and NetBSD on the older computer (Cx486DX-2 at > 66 MHz; 1.2 GB hard drive). One thing that could possibly help is if you > could get a custom installation kernel or running kernel, but you'd need > a different computer to build it on. > > Any way to cross-compile a FreeBSD kernel from NetBSD or Linux? Does anybody > know? NetBSD guide tells how to make customized installation kernels and > media, but I see nothing like that for FreeBSD. > > You might read the sysinstall man page from FreeBSD web site. Under NOTES > > This product is currently at the end of its life cycle and will eventu- > ally be replaced. > > Under BUGS, toward the end > > This utility is a prototype which lasted several years past its expira- > tion date and is greatly in need of death. > > I guess you and I both agree on this last statement. I also have to say that > splitting the installation sets into 1392 KB chunks like base.aa, base.ab, > and so on, is much less user-friendly and more error-prone than one .tgz or > .tbz file for each installation set: base.tgz, etc.tgz, man.tgz and so on. > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 18:51:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BBF1065674 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:51:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD4B8FC12 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:51:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id l0mQ1e0040EPchoAA6r0yJ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:51:00 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.9] ([76.113.183.74]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id l6qy1e00F1cjQTw8M6qzfD; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:51:00 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <881133.14556.qm@web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:50:58 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4264734A-9755-498C-8619-AD937BEE547A@cwis.biz> References: <4c48013d.gPNiF4msgxiXzWRV%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> <9CAC47BC-6209-4B09-9522-85FC11DECDC5@cwis.biz> <881133.14556.qm@web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: Rich X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:51:01 -0000 Then you can suffer through "crappy windows" or spend $50 on a hard = drive...=20 On Jul 22, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Rich wrote: > No I'm not going to start ripping my computer apart because FreeBSD = can't deal=20 > with my hard drive. I think the problem is a shortcoming in FreeBSD = where it=20 > can't deal with drives that have old stale RAID metadata on them. I'm = just going=20 > to have to wait until they can. Until then no FreeBSD for me. Back to = crappy=20 > windows. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ________________________________ > From: Ryan Coleman > To: User Questions > Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 7:19:28 AM > Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can = take a=20 > while)... " >=20 > I agree, but I might start pulling parts and see if it works then. = swap video=20 > cards if you can, etc. >=20 > On Jul 22, 2010, at 3:28 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote: >=20 >> Rich, if you can't get either the installation CD or live-file-system = CD to=20 >> boot (FreeBSD), maybe your computer is allergic to FreeBSD? I've had = that >> problem with both FreeBSD and NetBSD on the older computer (Cx486DX-2 = at >> 66 MHz; 1.2 GB hard drive). One thing that could possibly help is if = you >> could get a custom installation kernel or running kernel, but you'd = need >> a different computer to build it on. =20 >>=20 >> Any way to cross-compile a FreeBSD kernel from NetBSD or Linux? Does = anybody >> know? NetBSD guide tells how to make customized installation kernels = and >> media, but I see nothing like that for FreeBSD. >>=20 >> You might read the sysinstall man page from FreeBSD web site. Under = NOTES >>=20 >> This product is currently at the end of its life cycle and will = eventu- >> ally be replaced. >>=20 >> Under BUGS, toward the end >>=20 >> This utility is a prototype which lasted several years past its = expira- >> tion date and is greatly in need of death. >>=20 >> I guess you and I both agree on this last statement. I also have to = say that >> splitting the installation sets into 1392 KB chunks like base.aa, = base.ab,=20 >> and so on, is much less user-friendly and more error-prone than one = .tgz or >> .tbz file for each installation set: base.tgz, etc.tgz, man.tgz and = so on. >>=20 >> Tom >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 18:54:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D5C106566C for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:54:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rl001@pacbell.net) Received: from web81104.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81104.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 185AA8FC12 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 97516 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jul 2010 18:54:29 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pacbell.net; s=s1024; t=1279824869; bh=ZGK3N9a0KBrskOiQMaZiHLHJTMy94UI3vgJQstr2v6E=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Z0D33dWd5/6wq4SBu9FA9D0tlno2S5jZSUvtnIESnvQF4pNA+IJlnMOuxVEQie77y8DbL9szQzxyUzxqK7cRukQOT0Z/yiOSReOVeXC23JZ2V0u0LU+EzxM/RKZXHaGlmr9xVgv+7HH53hOiG1kNhXfLwv48QQjMmaTs7vlnYWw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hue/LIadWhOIqDtXhSVoccWRnS0SvEk+bsbP4sMVbfIz9/tzzzw7NpUSiBPWlnzVLBJ9ZvcCt0mipIK4CRwMf1LoK8k7iPHMiHZImeaQE1W5CASDBe8WrDJzlI6kKnimb8tNvfu7D5I/BJxbZ7UXEBZMsBPRNgUZbMiPBNAWeL8=; Message-ID: <412578.95001.qm@web81104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: TsvK9yUVM1l8ZaFrVZwr2G67yceEaGl8YRVrYV9MEm3iH8H XJMkistR0wVIgcMG6tE6OOYSTWoJ.SZcT8YpJ.d6tcUZkoV7tknZpJby2EK5 RI1si9EhgmtQ9NwmpK8yxpVSYU9zImD4dGgmfHwgDIU_Am_sYbMxSL9jPPd5 YM59EsicO6gtHctSv1Q.KHn4UjuK1fHFsxDfP4K2y.XWtLAVL9HLKA4b1KRN ycyavK_.BuxVoVjo6M5Bi6OmbZDD7dzus47VR8Fuq4lcjfllSdhb4DlIYaDO PDIhOgr.aVYpmRiXHES4LxWAUOYbqfYyAOR84jwQLeVk- Received: from [71.139.177.219] by web81104.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:54:29 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/420.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 References: <4c48013d.gPNiF4msgxiXzWRV%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> <9CAC47BC-6209-4B09-9522-85FC11DECDC5@cwis.biz> <881133.14556.qm@web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4264734A-9755-498C-8619-AD937BEE547A@cwis.biz> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:54:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich To: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <4264734A-9755-498C-8619-AD937BEE547A@cwis.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:54:30 -0000 Lol, true. ________________________________ From: Ryan Coleman To: Rich Cc: User Questions Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 11:50:58 AM Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " Then you can suffer through "crappy windows" or spend $50 on a hard drive... On Jul 22, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Rich wrote: > No I'm not going to start ripping my computer apart because FreeBSD can't deal > with my hard drive. I think the problem is a shortcoming in FreeBSD where it > can't deal with drives that have old stale RAID metadata on them. I'm just >going > > to have to wait until they can. Until then no FreeBSD for me. Back to crappy > windows. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Ryan Coleman > To: User Questions > Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 7:19:28 AM > Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a > while)... " > > I agree, but I might start pulling parts and see if it works then. swap video > cards if you can, etc. > > On Jul 22, 2010, at 3:28 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > >> Rich, if you can't get either the installation CD or live-file-system CD to >> boot (FreeBSD), maybe your computer is allergic to FreeBSD? I've had that >> problem with both FreeBSD and NetBSD on the older computer (Cx486DX-2 at >> 66 MHz; 1.2 GB hard drive). One thing that could possibly help is if you >> could get a custom installation kernel or running kernel, but you'd need >> a different computer to build it on. >> >> Any way to cross-compile a FreeBSD kernel from NetBSD or Linux? Does anybody >> know? NetBSD guide tells how to make customized installation kernels and >> media, but I see nothing like that for FreeBSD. >> >> You might read the sysinstall man page from FreeBSD web site. Under NOTES >> >> This product is currently at the end of its life cycle and will eventu- >> ally be replaced. >> >> Under BUGS, toward the end >> >> This utility is a prototype which lasted several years past its expira- >> tion date and is greatly in need of death. >> >> I guess you and I both agree on this last statement. I also have to say that >> splitting the installation sets into 1392 KB chunks like base.aa, base.ab, >> and so on, is much less user-friendly and more error-prone than one .tgz or >> .tbz file for each installation set: base.tgz, etc.tgz, man.tgz and so on. >> >> Tom >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 19:03:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD071065674 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:03:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823038FC1B for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:03:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so595053vws.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.59.202 with SMTP id m10mr916761vch.196.1279825391149; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v11sm20422701vbb.14.2010.07.22.12.03.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:03:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3945EE54826 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:03:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:03:08 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100722150308.2fb12a7d@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <412578.95001.qm@web81104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4c48013d.gPNiF4msgxiXzWRV%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> <9CAC47BC-6209-4B09-9522-85FC11DECDC5@cwis.biz> <881133.14556.qm@web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4264734A-9755-498C-8619-AD937BEE547A@cwis.biz> <412578.95001.qm@web81104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:03:12 -0000 On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Rich articulated: > Lol, true. Two top posters in succession. My lucky day. In any case, the OP should NOT have to suffer the agita of being forced to due either. While the ability do accomplish what the OP desires does not exist ab initio in FreeBSD, it does not preclude its eventual inclusion. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 19:21:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05338106564A for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35918FC12 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:21:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28592 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2010 19:21:00 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Jul 2010 19:21:00 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 2EA1F5084D; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:20:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Caleb Stein References: Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:20:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Caleb Stein's message of "Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:42:40 -0700") Message-ID: <44hbjrl3vo.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Eclipse build fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:21:01 -0000 Caleb Stein writes: > the last lines of the output can be found here: > http://pastebin.com/8VAdvEjH > > How should I fix this? That's pretty weird; I can't make any sense out of it. If it were me, I would start by making sure that the dependencies are all up to date, and start over the eclipse build from scratch. The build cluster hasn't seen any failures on eclipse lately, for what that's worth. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 19:21:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C591065687 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:21:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from amavis-smtp.knology.net (amavis-smtp.knology.net [75.76.199.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5F88FC15 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (amavis-smtp [127.0.0.1]) by amavis-smtp.knology.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4648F8881E; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:21:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp12.knology.net ([75.76.199.9]) by localhost (amavis-smtp.knology.net [75.76.199.6]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 2nINQmzLtjfK; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:21:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Grumpy.DynDNS.org (unknown [24.42.224.110]) by smtp12.knology.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309D75200023; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 2B07E2841F; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:21:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:21:22 -0500 From: David Kelly To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <20100722192122.GB49236@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20100721223445.GA44260@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Strip high bit from text? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:21:29 -0000 On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 04:03:46PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: > > > Already use procmail so adding an automatic filter should not be > > difficult if only I can come up with on. > > > > Tried "tr \240 ' ' < testfile | hd" and was not able to change the 0xa0 > > into anything. Have already spent much more time trying to make tr or > > sed do the job than it would have taken to knock something out in C, but > > I think there should be something laying around already in the base > > system to perform this task. > > > > Suggestions? Repair the email while procmail has it? Reconfigure mutt and/or vim? > > If you've got procmail in the loop already, then calling iconv as a filter like so: > > iconv -f utf-8 -t ascii > > ...is likely to help. Another choice would be to switch to using a > MIME+Unicode/UTF-8 aware mail reader. Am thinking I initially succumbed to the novice goof of not escaping the backslash in "tr \240 ' ' < testfile | hd". Currently have this in my procmailrc but haven't seen an example come through. For some reason today my friend's Blackberry is sending 7bit rather than quoted-printable. He doesn't know why. :0 fW * ^X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit | tr '\240' ' ' :0 afW | formail -I "X-Converted: 0xA0 Stripper" -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 19:23:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3021065670 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:23:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546F58FC15 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:23:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2773 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2010 19:23:35 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Jul 2010 19:23:35 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 00ECB5084F; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:23:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Jeff Molofee References: <20100721055517.B6C321065752@hub.freebsd.org> <4C47D479.30901@telus.net> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:23:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4C47D479.30901@telus.net> (Jeff Molofee's message of "Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:17:45 -0600") Message-ID: <44d3ufl3rd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is "software update" in a working state yet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:23:36 -0000 Jeff Molofee writes: > I've noticed software update pop up on the screen quite a bit lately. > Initially it popped up and did nothing. Now in 8.1-RC2 it pops up and > shows me that I actually have updates. When I click update, it seems > like it's actually attempting to upgrade the listed packages, but the > entire process always ends with "command 'update-packages' is not > known". > > Do I have something misconfigured or is it still incomplete? Pardon my naivete, but: What is "software update"? It sounds like a GUI-ish thing; Is it a part of some desktop manager? Do you know what it uses as a backend? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 18:03:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12849106566C for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:03:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subbu4u2004@yahoo.com) Received: from web111510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web111510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.15.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BCEF68FC15 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:03:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 67288 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jul 2010 17:36:27 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1279820187; bh=PG7Oc5OGPeH7DgFlYwQs49l/2c8MZMc4HQS2GZgIQkI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yOgz4BiiTYmW6DMDYCoOFqjd9hwn4RPBwb2HaGSX2j6puSW6Mi6du0PAb3FBvJ4axGDEbeiJAzylfYHO+FtYN8m5Uf59y0RGcB002mk+1vrLugwF+T91ZcfqOwPZn4cU/axPeQH6CaUb9cOLJ/vTkiZBstc3PmNd2RzqJKHokzc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CP8qJgoq7glf6YAO35CmsblGVpJ/YtbUrNxVXX3MikGAqHCM96VU8wSlHMFkbvgBecseG59S4EnYcIl7mUodYLBo+9q4rMvbOR8XBd8qGQCS2sigvVrHNsZ3UJK+Mn7N1Y+2Oxz8t4xX0BEXFkoQuK3AOKK+tHeMOxoGShhVqP0=; Message-ID: <486205.57316.qm@web111510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 0rQDvQUVM1nEAZfNEQk48gr1ACJEQ.buDxX6AbHzYjj9.JK GYFRUeyiJ1A4WjFsuAQ88hip4CRiG6ZXwD1zoR_g6RK4waPHrZN4BmmoFk9M We3CsuSCre7YKWvo3fLpAMT4bl6sWjOEmNddaYL19H1ad6nH4_Ss2PN2YfgG zEfkVZZoMlSZ8fOVAIPQBc2eEYj9QIXTcMXpgwrAuCfYyWE.fhCG_l6XbstR ucOa7l1aGf7zW8lLeKtBXNbGyrOUyEqZ79xPQXwxnAFpj4CRFBtze9fHTFNL FdAeB2lLng7_duT7BXqvTA_KLEigdn0KYUl0C Received: from [117.197.198.132] by web111510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:36:27 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/420.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.277674 Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:36:27 -0700 (PDT) From: subbu 4u To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:48:05 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re:FreeBSD and Broadband network connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:03:09 -0000 Hi, My name is Subburaj from India, I bought a broadband internet connection and tried to connect with Freebsd system, I edited the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf with my username, password and i.p address that my ISP gave me but its not going through. I tried to troubleshoot with freebsd handbook and also with forums but its not working but my internet connection is working with windows 7 systems. The freeBSD were able to detect my ethernet card as vr0 and also my external modem is working with freebsd but there is no connection when I ping. Kindly help. Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 21:54:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B521065670 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:54:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout029.mac.com (asmtpout029.mac.com [17.148.16.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B468FC17 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:54:32 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp029.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L5Z005N5BICYF30@asmtp029.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:54:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1007220115 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-07-22_06:2010-07-22, 2010-07-22, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <486205.57316.qm@web111510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:54:12 -0700 Message-id: <5DF4B3BC-130C-4D19-BC02-8CDA6B633864@mac.com> References: <486205.57316.qm@web111510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> To: subbu 4u X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Broadband network connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:54:32 -0000 Hi, Subburaj-- On Jul 22, 2010, at 10:36 AM, subbu 4u wrote: > My name is Subburaj from India, I bought a broadband internet connection and > tried to connect with Freebsd system, I edited the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf with my > username, password and i.p address that my ISP gave me but its not going > through. I tried to troubleshoot with freebsd handbook and also with forums but > its not working but my internet connection is working with windows 7 systems. > The freeBSD were able to detect my ethernet card as vr0 and also my external > modem is working with freebsd but there is no connection when I ping. Kindly > help. It's quite possible that you've got PPPoE involved; in which case the FreeBSD docs have the answer: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/pppoe.html Otherwise, a few more details about your config and what it looks like when working under Win7 would be helpful... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 22:20:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CFA1065670 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edflecko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208EC8FC16 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:20:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so10421632iwn.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:20:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uy0ufGOfiKDhIF6CKnmqIzPs09I8KYnfeJ9jejLh9lM=; b=gksqw7bk6I9WM5vWkExD1y7DbdkHGM4kJAyAVjRpOGkkfvGUdnM9274bzkm9PGESiF /XOCdYXclB/mhXDENWF5zBWrVh8WN+paL5mfZ7LARQpqkQv8JIGGGmB7fbAxwh3d0ddP urGaX4zRHlU/kB+1KYpC5gkK+Sth9Pkr2T6C8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=nBWUUbBtJe2ct3Cnpt5EPp7CKFMiPrE1RoVdJAUCm/b8yTprMuKdoanmIm2Nnmryep Kd42w3n3aCpcACy89vQ8kC6qNawwF5YZpX4/3kXMNJhqwH/rnSLyIp4t1EH8v+DPWmi0 wWsd8EQCTew6McjesIeKUlxUlCwtVHvD9Kgkc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.146.129 with SMTP id h1mr2578584ibv.181.1279837255056; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.118.98 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:20:55 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ed Flecko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: How do you automatically start Apache, Bind, etc. in a jail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:20:56 -0000 Hi folks, I have Apache installed in a "qjail" named "webserver" (I.P. address 192.168.225.130) using the "pkg_add -r apache22" command, but how do you get Apache (or Bind, etc.) to automatically start upon boot? I got the jail to start by adding qjail_enable="YES" to hosts' /etc/rc.conf and I also added apache22_enable="YES", but that doesn't seem to work. Suggestions? Also, when I console into the jail, and issue an "apachectl start" command, I get the following error: httpd: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for webserver httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName I figured out if I add the IP address of the jail as well as "webserver" to the jails' hosts file, I can start Apache, but I still get this error: httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 192.168.225.130 for ServerName What am I doing wrong? Finally, rather than installing Apache using the typical "pkg_add -r apache22" command, is there a way to install Apache using the ./configure script? In MY case, I know the EXACT parameters I want to pass to the ./configure script (like enabling SSL, etc), but I don't know how to do this in a "jail". >From the jail console, I tried: cd /usr/ports/www/apache22 ./configure --enable-ssl...etc., etc., etc.??? but this doesn't work. Do I need to do the opposite, i.e., from the HOST console: ./configure --prefix=/PathToJail --enable-ssl...etc., etc., etc??? Thank you! Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 22:32:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7089A106566B for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:32:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F588FC18 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:32:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so210516qwg.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:32:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WL6cw2GOlEvF312qPbAGzIRRa4tc2phZ95CyRSPMwlw=; b=XPrkSv+x9FPsAcHAp2A7gBq4yOW0kg7SGVEBSb9ENMCn2bFJmz4KsyecLlkJSh40ED IOBnLso5Ay/y4pkaSDe9Wjecb2G6FnVDCXnlWFFlzRuqOSngjddqGwg5ADFBdnh/GGjk K4kig3ZojJc1DeOx9fs9G/wNQj86t/EZ888fo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=lDfbT4KJHrp9KBWzI9FxJNMuMRDGTHIhi9VoBm4hHmO8jvjHLraayroAnCQiliyGe5 nfjtsRRhVUXtgf2LEqEvRfSR4GnwiLFoXQ9luhYTFUiw8S7ShWGSZMRl9LOUFozocElW IScQILukKypxx3c6TjhobvrSEyfQN+z4RGM60= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.65.200 with SMTP id k8mr1803302qai.47.1279837956563; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.231.193 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:32:36 -0700 Message-ID: From: Nerius Landys To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: ULE scheduler and the WCPU column in top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:32:39 -0000 I have this interesting behavior in the top utility on _both_ my 7.1 and 8.0 FreeBSD servers (updated to latest patches). The interesting behavior happens only when my kernel is compiled with the ULE scheduler. It does not happen when the kernel uses the old BSD scheduler. Here is a link of a screenshot of top on one of my servers: http://daffy.nerius.com/temp/top.png The output of top usually looks just like this, at most times of the day. The row that worries me is the process "ioUrTded.i3" run by the user urt1, which is reported to be using 1.17% WCPU in the screenshot. It's the sixth row down. The thing that makes no sense is that this process is in fact using more CPU than any other process on my system, and I know this as a fact. The processes that are most active are all video game servers, and the game server run by the urt1 user is the most populated with the most going on, by far. With my kernel compiled to use the old BSD scheduler, the process run by urt1 is _always_ the most active as reported by top; the WCPU shows between 30 and 40 percent on this process normally (with the BSD scheduler). The WCPU percentage on the process owned by urt1 never reaches very high - it always stays abnormally low as reported by top (with the ULE scheduler). The process itself is running just fine and the game server is very busy. Any ideas? Is this a known issue when running the ULE scheduler? Any negative impacts that might occur? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 22:39:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863FE106566C for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:39:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F898FC14 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:39:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so863175vws.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:39:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2KLwaxRyDLZ1qnqV6Eg4xypO8+r+a/MjleVh9yAFYmU=; b=FzZwXnbatmueGkdLmx0fPNCExEkejhvPMRRlC9F9BWtsgiPxZGmHjZMlMAfhSWKCKo g1yq4ff3ZDeVr52t1JyD9ZicS+LxcKTDfsOVEf+L5vh5upDftLEwRNdf14suudHt2YAr F9NLqZX3/Uv9C915xP38iEHPDGL/cbklRjRdk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=EfzuuH7jPJnMN41Ql8IhL4z7b22bioKgsOWaCGGKqTPwU94ttl6XAhQ0r6W9BSH6Mz JCi8K2BJafPiEvhFRNAZOy6/9vdQh1f94qMbSNjAWPxzZgqFnm/Hr4xt7wEJMBVFfNkS 4cw34qyzspUe+5/kMUnmieRbRTuttrwp4gaPw= Received: by 10.220.127.94 with SMTP id f30mr1103455vcs.75.1279838372278; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k30sm20545483vbl.19.2010.07.22.15.39.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C48C8A1.7090100@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:39:29 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Flecko References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do you automatically start Apache, Bind, etc. in a jail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:39:33 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 7/22/10 6:20 PM, Ed Flecko wrote: > Hi folks, > I have Apache installed in a "qjail" named "webserver" (I.P. address > 192.168.225.130) using the "pkg_add -r apache22" command, but how do > you get Apache (or Bind, etc.) to automatically start upon boot? > > I got the jail to start by adding qjail_enable="YES" to hosts' > /etc/rc.conf and I also added apache22_enable="YES", but that doesn't > seem to work. > You would need to add apache22_enable="YES" to the jail's rc.conf, not the host's. > Suggestions? > > > > Also, when I console into the jail, and issue an "apachectl start" > command, I get the following error: > > httpd: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for webserver > httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified > domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName > Edit httpd.conf, adding a ServerName directive. (An example exists in the file, so you can model after that.) If you don't have a FQDN, use the jail's hostname, and add that hostname to the jail's /etc/hosts. > I figured out if I add the IP address of the jail as well as > "webserver" to the jails' hosts file, I can start Apache, but I still > get this error: > > httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified > domain name, using 192.168.225.130 for ServerName > > What am I doing wrong? > > > > Finally, rather than installing Apache using the typical "pkg_add -r > apache22" command, is there a way to install Apache using the > ./configure script? In MY case, I know the EXACT parameters I want to > pass to the ./configure script (like enabling SSL, etc), but I don't > know how to do this in a "jail". > You can build from source if you like, but ports are easier, IMHO. Have a look here for more information on the ports tree: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html >>From the jail console, I tried: > > cd /usr/ports/www/apache22 > ./configure --enable-ssl...etc., etc., etc.??? > 'make config' to show the configuration screen; 'make install' to compile and install. > but this doesn't work. > > Do I need to do the opposite, i.e., from the HOST console: > > ./configure --prefix=/PathToJail --enable-ssl...etc., etc., etc??? > Nope; have a look at the link I pasted above. I think you might like the ports tree rather than compiling from source, since all of the "hard work" has already been taken care of for you. Regards, - -- Glen Barber -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxIyKEACgkQeHhHJjlriYVw0QCeMvja3z3manD9lHgBk7VTfocI iCoAn1F4ycv7P+dPv6GhWpghEIOgOxRm =wLii -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 22:45:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93D41065675 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:45:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (203-109-245-75.static.bliink.ihug.co.nz [203.109.245.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487C78FC17 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 230C9E044B; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:29:27 +1200 (NZST) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:29:27 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: subbu 4u Message-ID: <20100722222927.GC78057@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <486205.57316.qm@web111510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <486205.57316.qm@web111510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Broadband network connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:45:53 -0000 On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:36:27AM -0700, subbu 4u wrote: > Hi, > My name is Subburaj from India, I bought a broadband internet connection and > tried to connect with Freebsd system, I edited the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf with my > username, password and i.p address that my ISP gave me but its not going > through. I tried to troubleshoot with freebsd handbook and also with forums but > its not working but my internet connection is working with windows 7 systems. > The freeBSD were able to detect my ethernet card as vr0 and also my external > modem is working with freebsd but there is no connection when I ping. Kindly > help. If you have an external modem, this will mean that your probably nat'ing from your modem. ie: your modem establishes the connection with your ISP. If this is the case, all you have to do is establish your vr0 network with your modem, and set it as the default route. If this is not the case, you will need to provide the list with more details as to the internal network structure; ie IP addresses, etc. -- Jonathan Chen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by" - Douglas Adams From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 22:51:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7EA106567E for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:51:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edflecko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93FA18FC23 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:51:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so10459239iwn.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:51:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wov99AGOvGaMZt2thz/SiQjyocbiPoqxEqSa+CbZmKc=; b=RRCj84z3Tvi6113Is208J/ihVAFr2rePQV9twu2bBFBtKxTiu4VHFHzV7GTFtiGrL9 RxpzJMdWrZ4orrpDw0g/RPc/yrZezjkGXFFp2EFeYCNjb3EfaJfyjZQT+63mYcWca9XT dBghgcpnbpjwL8NlSysDNe1MFoox2acBqyD6Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Xcx4Y1kmPYkts5chEOF14nyOD6B5peFo+4a8DOeTwv5TdHD6ifooaHcXdpVcenqTiq uGl1AeTM5z6GuFSY0yNaF8r2vqCRM37Nrx8unKciwRwPIBOrhbQLXOkD/DSajWc0EoMZ k47pPjvvrevNVUcLTTY3uMXzEI5Hk3L+LCrys= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.66.79 with SMTP id m15mr2215924ibi.197.1279839095857; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.118.98 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:51:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C48C8A1.7090100@gmail.com> References: <4C48C8A1.7090100@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:51:35 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ed Flecko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: How do you automatically start Apache, Bind, etc. in a jail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:51:36 -0000 Thanks Glen. :-) I'm not clear how I get the 'make config' to show the configuration screen or the 'make install' to compile and install??? That might allow me to install Apache (with a limited number of modules) like I want, but I don't understand what you're suggesting. Also, do you know for sure that compiling from source and specifying the install target (i.e., ./configure --prefix=/PathToJail --enable-ssl...etc., etc., etc???) won't work? Thank you again! Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 23:07:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C33106564A for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:07:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1158E8FC15 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:07:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so897157vws.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:07:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ur/9x4ga6iPKmxxuVEwUTVrbQCbiSDDbAw27Cjnh6Uo=; b=pboWypu4zECDk6t910jyIYnlCqU/PysVJ0+dY9F8GGsebEqtzEVjkONsd1JXb3XbqU KxtzdNtJCJEVaWlheKuKH1ityDfmq6io65EqVoKfFUb5qest/cioQ9UoEA8zNlUrI1Ir 2mVzx+jS265A1aa25vBVOWuXumNSIRQ8ekEbQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=k7J+k+j42nhGZiYLvbL98/39261r5faBWUfm5wuJxO8QpT/bVGx9n9UX2tj2oLpW14 hvwSEzZMLFUXdIGanZHrtpY7pMzTcjgLgo7urrEQTFInAKzkcB0BVzE8lS3EP739r8PT JgI1XfV5Eiv+RRIPuGt+RAzuXEw5hbFQIwUsE= Received: by 10.220.48.90 with SMTP id q26mr1069900vcf.228.1279840048962; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k30sm20563926vbl.9.2010.07.22.16.07.26 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C48CF2D.3020304@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:07:25 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Flecko References: <4C48C8A1.7090100@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do you automatically start Apache, Bind, etc. in a jail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:07:30 -0000 On 7/22/10 6:51 PM, Ed Flecko wrote: > Thanks Glen. > > :-) > > I'm not clear how I get the 'make config' to show the configuration > screen or the 'make install' to compile and install??? > Depending on what you've previously done in the www/apache22 directory, a configuration may already exist. 'make showconfig' will tell you. If so, you can run 'make rmconfig' in the apache22 port directory, and a subsequent 'make config' will display the configuration screen. (Actually, I believe www/apache22 does this automatically if a configuration doesn't already exist.) > That might allow me to install Apache (with a limited number of > modules) like I want, but I don't understand what you're suggesting. > The config screen will allow you to select/deselect various build-time options, such as DAV, AUTH_BASIC, etc. > > > Also, do you know for sure that compiling from source and specifying > the install target (i.e., ./configure --prefix=/PathToJail > --enable-ssl...etc., etc., etc???) won't work? > It will work, sure, but make(1) and the port Makefile does this for you. > Thank you again! > You're welcome. Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 23:09:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244F01065670 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:09:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3CEF8FC15 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:09:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so899275vws.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:09:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tTj96Yfs05jCaF8aR7Pc7bjizdjTLNfIsBUXS9LvOLE=; b=RBEtsX3AcPE0b2zvypJvB0kHKdsBtz4DOx5fSrQacGRrJbFu3v0D63UQs0tF+71s/j L9mwrpTMQHP/66l4kBhHLuW5x5fzSJRTGsz+OoCzf/E7CdTF8Ss5pncDE3jSh5LZPIsC K+HzhOrBujVtuPC7wj5QkSt6pcZZWo+4eaj8A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AKqCMT4miueUjP7F4L4uAFqTsQjcnbbrZCFAjcfxn0WnM4xEm1gEcqPfzbPQBDvnsm UiIbRjXbIt9mfOWerAjJJw50rsre7GBtKG1r9/+tjZm6kNn02A8N8tiFCwHz1fp2Eqez c06uMoygzyJEaakSMhB+a0oYoHbQGPDScNQKg= Received: by 10.220.73.144 with SMTP id q16mr1138131vcj.265.1279840157947; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v11sm20572014vbb.1.2010.07.22.16.09.15 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:09:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C48CF9B.5090600@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:09:15 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Flecko References: <4C48C8A1.7090100@gmail.com> <4C48CF2D.3020304@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C48CF2D.3020304@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do you automatically start Apache, Bind, etc. in a jail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:09:19 -0000 On 7/22/10 7:07 PM, Glen Barber wrote: >> Also, do you know for sure that compiling from source and specifying >> the install target (i.e., ./configure --prefix=/PathToJail >> --enable-ssl...etc., etc., etc???) won't work? >> > > It will work, sure, but make(1) and the port Makefile does this for you. > To be clear, you'd need the apache22 source tarball for that to work. That isn't in the port directory (/usr/ports/www/apache22). make(1) in the port directory fetches the source tarball when the build starts.\ Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 23:19:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B861065675 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edflecko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E868FC1C for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:19:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so10490905iwn.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:19:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CAhktmFhZk1rB13ObeqyWoe9+W/wTrfRpwKZIX+FwoQ=; b=kqbm160jIzjQMLKDmvQjv51j/P25Je8DxOp7cQLIZkLqpuJCY+D6IJZDuuqGjc4bYR dXs7Bo3epROX5iGy4tMRh8901BFBpxBmR+o9hQo6qiCrVpbv2w//YitFReycZqMiB17N +8T+gy8501jydVu7P9Mh9ryaRkPtuL0/iqrLk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ByRJTRGHydQ86+iQBE7O0nuwLtEQqxX6y/r/E3W1R/oIAgZuE+tIZDzjB46hwI+v/y 66villDBR4EODbUKVOI9mQGlXqB15pp3jh+MQSjdY83P7BxbXLGDJtsIg/rdB8C8vqHJ EltGEeJk8o2n2G09MgWV3mXUwV8S+wu7GurL4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.191.74 with SMTP id dl10mr2478809ibb.157.1279840762238; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.118.98 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:19:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C48CF9B.5090600@gmail.com> References: <4C48C8A1.7090100@gmail.com> <4C48CF2D.3020304@gmail.com> <4C48CF9B.5090600@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:19:22 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ed Flecko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: How do you automatically start Apache, Bind, etc. in a jail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:19:23 -0000 Oh, O.K., so I CAN just download the tarball (from http://httpd.apache.org/), unpack and install it (just like any other source install) and specify the jail as the target or did I misinterpret you? Sorry if I've missed your point! :-) Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 23:24:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02D21065678 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:24:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5458FC2A for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so917868vws.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:24:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kR5O9d7IYFl4mHlgWcViUy27tYgZyyP5IxtOqC/yDbU=; b=oIzECDC3UUp2P8yzlEFVXvv/p8NTfRfgMH758yevBzBYRVxUsDcBhv+tX0WT0J61iW B4vxh1fA7HHS8ulfNLdOXaeNk6xLUUY3VZc16i83KoKDMHQF5p2vDcXVbwJUo8j97PnV Qgn9eh6jLM8LsEPlPKhCP8/p55jIZQZZmh87o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LOq1cYB/Byui+j5xMMuGGqmDX9CLfuk0yFXrkmcx6WDabLuCsaQyG/+aUEqqaliuEW NdPnyWeL+ejPAFQjvlfGmQIBcJ34ubq46iLkYVAnlpKIVTw0vNWZuerAs3q+jwpBXkfD NPdO//LAl+n5s95QUk6J6bRl+iGn8onSo8Wuw= Received: by 10.220.49.204 with SMTP id w12mr1114721vcf.103.1279841066470; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v11sm20569767vbb.12.2010.07.22.16.24.24 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C48D328.8050107@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:24:24 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Flecko References: <4C48C8A1.7090100@gmail.com> <4C48CF2D.3020304@gmail.com> <4C48CF9B.5090600@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do you automatically start Apache, Bind, etc. in a jail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:24:27 -0000 On 7/22/10 7:19 PM, Ed Flecko wrote: > Oh, O.K., so I CAN just download the tarball (from > http://httpd.apache.org/), unpack and install it (just like any other > source install) and specify the jail as the target or did I > misinterpret you? > Do it from _inside_ the jail, not from the host. Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 01:20:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12D51065676 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD548FC12 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:20:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.205]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:20:07 -0700 Message-ID: <4C48EE42.1050102@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:20:02 +0800 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jul 2010 01:20:07.0773 (UTC) FILETIME=[2FF130D0:01CB2A05] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Cc: Subject: ports INDEX file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:20:07 -0000 I have a pristine install of 8.0. There is no /usr/ports directory yet. I am trying to use the "portcheckout" port and the "porteasy" port to just populate the ports tree with only the ports I use. Problem is in both cases the above ports require an existing INDEX file to process and since I have none they don't work. How can I just download the ports INDEX file? Portsnap is not a solution. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 01:27:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD541065670 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EEFE8FC19 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6N1Qtc3067357 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:26:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4C48EFDB.5050408@tundraware.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:26:51 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fbsd8 , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <4C48EE42.1050102@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4C48EE42.1050102@a1poweruser.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.5 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:26:55 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: o6N1Qtc3067357 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Subject: Re: ports INDEX file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:27:04 -0000 On 7/22/2010 8:20 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: > I have a pristine install of 8.0. > There is no /usr/ports directory yet. > I am trying to use the "portcheckout" port and the "porteasy" port to > just populate the ports tree with only the ports I use. > > Problem is in both cases the above ports require an existing INDEX file > to process and since I have none they don't work. > > How can I just download the ports INDEX file? > Portsnap is not a solution. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" You can use 'csup' to get the ports tree down. You'll find the relevant config file (assuming you installed the source tree) at: /usr/src/share/examples/cvsup -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 01:33:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882F3106566C for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:33:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7486B8FC19 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:33:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.205]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:33:45 -0700 Message-ID: <4C48F173.1050104@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:33:39 +0800 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Daneliuk References: <4C48EE42.1050102@a1poweruser.com> <4C48EFDB.5050408@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <4C48EFDB.5050408@tundraware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jul 2010 01:33:46.0507 (UTC) FILETIME=[17F215B0:01CB2A07] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: ports INDEX file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:33:47 -0000 Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 7/22/2010 8:20 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: >> I have a pristine install of 8.0. >> There is no /usr/ports directory yet. >> I am trying to use the "portcheckout" port and the "porteasy" port to >> just populate the ports tree with only the ports I use. >> >> Problem is in both cases the above ports require an existing INDEX file >> to process and since I have none they don't work. >> >> How can I just download the ports INDEX file? >> Portsnap is not a solution. >> _______________________________________________ > > You can use 'csup' to get the ports tree down. You'll find the > relevant config file (assuming you installed the source tree) at: > > /usr/src/share/examples/cvsup > > Not interested in the ports tree. Just the INDEX file From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 01:43:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A241065674 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:43:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@b1c1l1.com) Received: from lancer.b1c1l1.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f358:1a:1a:1000::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CAC78FC14 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:43:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from supra.b1c1l1.com (netops-129.sfo1.bitgravity.com [209.131.110.129]) by lancer.b1c1l1.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7FC385C21; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:43:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C48F3AA.2050107@b1c1l1.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:43:06 -0700 From: Benjamin Lee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100712 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fbsd8 References: <4C48EE42.1050102@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4C48EE42.1050102@a1poweruser.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB7342BD2AC275D323616735E" Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: ports INDEX file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:43:15 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB7342BD2AC275D323616735E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/22/2010 06:20 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: > I have a pristine install of 8.0. > There is no /usr/ports directory yet. > I am trying to use the "portcheckout" port and the "porteasy" port to > just populate the ports tree with only the ports I use. >=20 > Problem is in both cases the above ports require an existing INDEX file= > to process and since I have none they don't work. >=20 > How can I just download the ports INDEX file? > Portsnap is not a solution. Well, The INDEX file is a component of the ports tree distribution. If you choose not to use the supported method of installing it (i.e. installing the ports tree), you'll have to create your own. 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I can not get it to work. It gives this message cvs checkout: No CVSROOT specified! Please use the -d option Cannot read the INDEX file. Give up The manpage has no information about any options at all, so have no idea how the -d option is to be coded. I do have a /usr/ports/INDEX file so don't understand what its complaining about. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 01:59:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737B21065678 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:59:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfarmer@predatorlabs.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE738FC15 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:59:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so1108525vws.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:59:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.125.38 with SMTP id w38mr1239183vcr.49.1279850382154; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.190.198 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:59:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [71.1.135.50] In-Reply-To: <4C48F4E7.3080402@a1poweruser.com> References: <4C48F4E7.3080402@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:59:42 -0700 Message-ID: From: Rob Farmer To: Fbsd8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Anybody using the portcheckout port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:59:43 -0000 On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: > Is this port broken? > > I can not get it to work. > > It gives this message > > cvs checkout: No CVSROOT specified! Please use the -d option > Cannot read the INDEX file. Give up > I am not familiar with that port, but it looks to be a wrapper for running cvs to get the port directory (and dependencies) you have requested, then installing from that. cvs needs either the -d flag or the CVSROOT environment variable to tell it which CVS repo to checkout from. There are some examples here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/anoncvs.html -- Rob Farmer > The manpage has no information about any options at all, so have no idea how > the -d option is to be coded. I do have a /usr/ports/INDEX file so don't > understand what its complaining about. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 02:04:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D7D1065677 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:04:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91998FC0C for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:04:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so10669125iwn.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.114.165 with SMTP id e37mr2319562ibq.189.1279850653193; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:04:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.148.9 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:03:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Eitan Adler Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:03:52 -0400 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: why do I require "WPA" in rc.conf even for open networks. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:04:14 -0000 For some reason I can not connect to *any* wireless network regardless of the connection type unless I have "WPA" in /etc/rc.conf right before "DHCP". Why would I require this to connect to open networks? -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 03:54:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A7D1065673 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:54:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63AF8FC13 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:54:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.205]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:54:43 -0700 Message-ID: <4C491279.2050503@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:54:33 +0800 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin Lee References: <4C48EE42.1050102@a1poweruser.com> <4C48F3AA.2050107@b1c1l1.com> In-Reply-To: <4C48F3AA.2050107@b1c1l1.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jul 2010 03:54:43.0838 (UTC) FILETIME=[C8E861E0:01CB2A1A] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: ports INDEX file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:54:48 -0000 Benjamin Lee wrote: > On 07/22/2010 06:20 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: >> I have a pristine install of 8.0. >> There is no /usr/ports directory yet. >> I am trying to use the "portcheckout" port and the "porteasy" port to >> just populate the ports tree with only the ports I use. >> >> Problem is in both cases the above ports require an existing INDEX file >> to process and since I have none they don't work. >> >> How can I just download the ports INDEX file? >> Portsnap is not a solution. > > Well, The INDEX file is a component of the ports tree distribution. If > you choose not to use the supported method of installing it (i.e. > installing the ports tree), you'll have to create your own. > > Hint: Per ports(7), take a look at the definition of the 'fetchindex' > target. > > I see in the source of porteasy that its fetching http://www.freebsd.org/ports/INDEX-8.bz2 How can I verify this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 03:55:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FEEF106564A for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:55:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nehe@telus.net) Received: from defout.telus.net (outbound02.telus.net [199.185.220.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCCFE8FC15 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:55:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edtnaa02.telusplanet.net ([75.158.0.131]) by priv-edtnes23.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20100723035535.RJNH15975.priv-edtnes23.telusplanet.net@edtnaa02.telusplanet.net> for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:55:35 -0600 Received: from [192.168.1.105] (d75-158-0-131.abhsia.telus.net [75.158.0.131]) by edtnaa02.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 2F28B3F1278EBDFC for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:55:35 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4C4912B6.4040304@telus.net> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:55:34 -0600 From: Jeff Molofee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100721055517.B6C321065752@hub.freebsd.org> <4C47D479.30901@telus.net> <44d3ufl3rd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44d3ufl3rd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Is "software update" in a working state yet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:55:37 -0000 packagekit... moreso gnome-packagekit On 7/22/2010 1:23 PM, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Jeff Molofee writes: > >> I've noticed software update pop up on the screen quite a bit lately. >> Initially it popped up and did nothing. Now in 8.1-RC2 it pops up and >> shows me that I actually have updates. When I click update, it seems >> like it's actually attempting to upgrade the listed packages, but the >> entire process always ends with "command 'update-packages' is not >> known". >> >> Do I have something misconfigured or is it still incomplete? > Pardon my naivete, but: > > What is "software update"? > It sounds like a GUI-ish thing; > Is it a part of some desktop manager? > Do you know what it uses as a backend? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 05:14:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00001065670 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 05:14:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1998FC24 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 05:14:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6N5EJQ7028445 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:14:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C492524.8080109@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:14:12 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fbsd8 References: <4C48EE42.1050102@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4C48EE42.1050102@a1poweruser.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig1828DBF5B0DE38FBC6E9EEB5" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: ports INDEX file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 05:14:32 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1828DBF5B0DE38FBC6E9EEB5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 23/07/2010 02:20:02, Fbsd8 wrote: > I have a pristine install of 8.0. > There is no /usr/ports directory yet. > I am trying to use the "portcheckout" port and the "porteasy" port to > just populate the ports tree with only the ports I use. I've heard of a few people trying to do things like this, and mostly the consensus is that's it's more trouble than it's worth. Good luck. In order to make your cut-down tree work properly, you'ld have to maintain custom versions of /usr/ports/Makefile and which ever of the category Makefiles you use (ie. the Makefiles one level down the tree). > Problem is in both cases the above ports require an existing INDEX file= > to process and since I have none they don't work. >=20 > How can I just download the ports INDEX file? > Portsnap is not a solution. You can use my ports-mgmt/p5-FreeBSD-Portindex port to build an INDEX file -- ideally you should get it to run without complaints about missing dependencies and such, but if you don't it will do the best it can to produce something resembling an INDEX. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig1828DBF5B0DE38FBC6E9EEB5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxJJSoACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwlXACfRa/A7Ou6qDd/yzPm0JUMTcAG m1sAn28yYPNc+6gMTQmxlZUBO0ZP7sGl =4bvj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig1828DBF5B0DE38FBC6E9EEB5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 05:28:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB845106564A for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 05:28:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@e-e.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [64.156.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B788FC08 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 05:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eggman.experts-exchange.com (unknown [192.168.108.14]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABB24A2E952; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:24:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eggman.experts-exchange.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, _d Jul 2010 22:28:22 -0700 Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:28:22 -0700 From: Jason To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20100723052821.GA2854@Jason-Helfmans-MacBook-Pro.local> References: <4C48EE42.1050102@a1poweruser.com> <4C492524.8080109@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C492524.8080109@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Operating-System: Darwin 10.4.0 X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Fbsd8 , "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: ports INDEX file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 05:28:25 -0000 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 06:14:12AM +0100, Matthew Seaman thus spake: >On 23/07/2010 02:20:02, Fbsd8 wrote: >> I have a pristine install of 8.0. >> There is no /usr/ports directory yet. >> I am trying to use the "portcheckout" port and the "porteasy" port to >> just populate the ports tree with only the ports I use. > Portcheckout really won't grab all the dependencies that are needed. I've filed a PR for this. I wrote up a quick script that has the same output that grabs all the dependencies. Portcheckout doesn't grab dependencies of dependencies (ie. make all-depends-list) >I've heard of a few people trying to do things like this, and mostly the >consensus is that's it's more trouble than it's worth. Good luck. > >In order to make your cut-down tree work properly, you'ld have to >maintain custom versions of /usr/ports/Makefile and which ever of the >category Makefiles you use (ie. the Makefiles one level down the tree). > >> Problem is in both cases the above ports require an existing INDEX file >> to process and since I have none they don't work. >> >> How can I just download the ports INDEX file? >> Portsnap is not a solution. > >You can use my ports-mgmt/p5-FreeBSD-Portindex port to build an INDEX >file -- ideally you should get it to run without complaints about >missing dependencies and such, but if you don't it will do the best it >can to produce something resembling an INDEX. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > >-- >Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 >PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate >JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 06:21:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5D9106564A; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:21:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antoniok.spb@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4078E8FC21; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:21:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so5278405fxm.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:21:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=DhIUK/1nZOHmTmuIaBzsK842BI5qzSmiLSmibQtna0k=; b=EYnlkBgpbqlVPIfCMctb7vZOvWnbu/s9wg1ftCd77LRULBkeD4Kg2kOF95wADi80s8 U4W3grVlhJGmtZHChw4bFKdplPBCmLCRfHndb34oHvcjicPG177OCr+IOeaAROqFYMxa 9vjJJKSPuWv/2uTMcSwiKVke9r8gGtMBtClUk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=X1uyg1wQaN/0cohTRXONG4pMHNzn/3e/21moCuiGLd/z32K8xxejmDOWnVCEnSGDMv mMBKeNztoGWKfyhVyQGxACHF+KTwawsrsQfP7I1PDgFIL4sNy5cmJPnnuHgsP/ewc/we ko81vP5g9iqdiUg/n9eVPH9pdD0ffvZw8QSOM= Received: by 10.239.132.70 with SMTP id 6mr122948hbq.192.1279866094114; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:21:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.181.76 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:21:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Antonio Kless Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:21:14 +0400 Message-ID: To: questions@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-Ports Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: freecolor: Bus error. software or hardware problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:21:37 -0000 Strange freecolor behavior on fresh 8.0-RELEASE system. # uname -a FreeBSD alternate-1.net 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 15:02:08 UTC 2009 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 # freecolor -V freecolor version 0.8.8 # freecolor Bus error I have reinstall 7.3-RELEASE on this server, and get another look of error: # freecolor Bus error: 10 Is it software or hardware problem? -- Best regards, Antonio Kless, http://kless.spb.ru/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 06:27:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924621065674 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from randy.belk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2796D8FC14 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:27:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so1527614wyj.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:27:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=m6Zas4r6ty401fbkeWenlEA6s0+vZUSD3l7FQ17DfzQ=; b=gI+loP2w2SgzpUNVK0h4LlUEzpS+LZYe0dAvtpzqS2gLtinJTVejGGE8cLRc3IzBKh QlmV8YjQcocjSWmv/mD6i1FaWteTH6LmpSFiOkBAhqs9XBgMDVKGv5S7EAYHfXb2kTyI +irRCjRLRNiXevzdJH2QUFHIh7yrFN2q7+1NA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=eYu1xe1k4hlnBXL1gfx7YWEVt4A8gukeibSJybkm7gOkpTqcfDxlVPvg+d7/W1WuWn 7SE0YeSe8Srm1hP+HRJXw6s9rbSgr2oqrE9rax8fNV9JtsKVV5rThQuMVc0a863Bo0PO gulVn23RorJZRCko/b8wdkMG7UKqSYF8s1PeA= Received: by 10.216.86.15 with SMTP id v15mr3019755wee.9.1279866430255; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:27:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.174.12 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:26:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Randy Belk Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:26:40 -0500 Message-ID: To: Antonio Kless Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-Ports Subject: Re: freecolor: Bus error. software or hardware problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:27:13 -0000 Have you updated your ports? This was an issue on the amd64 distribution, but it was fixed. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Antonio Kless wrote: > Strange freecolor behavior on fresh 8.0-RELEASE system. > > # uname -a > FreeBSD alternate-1.net 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 > 15:02:08 UTC 2009 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu: > /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > amd64 > > # freecolor -V > freecolor version 0.8.8 > > # freecolor > Bus error > > > I have reinstall 7.3-RELEASE on this server, and get another look of error: > > # freecolor > Bus error: 10 > > > Is it software or hardware problem? > > -- > Best regards, > Antonio Kless, > http://kless.spb.ru/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- - Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. - Leonardo da Vinci - Intelligence is not defined by what you know, It's how you USE it. - People who hate Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use BSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 06:29:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1610F106564A; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:29:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antoniok.spb@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7243B8FC13; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so5281069fxm.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:29:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=d5DAtjN1RXC5VcOdfONtIHXo3t8u7+8BvnufFETZK9w=; b=vOIdaGkXDLLw7dRy3mzzczIXshyVWXFtZAZNaUc6wNI1TivKNNIYIkD6E8xc3sloI5 N4dkfeIzpSuz7tRK0LihIHKIlDK/8Awr2dCDv6nVg+7PIG/3QMu0/Mpuy06XxKAOdNzl rJ7oocK69MRyU4DL62h89vwxYIksBJRlW9C+I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=Sn+9657WA9WBYay7f1t8Q9EFZ8OjKdBpWP0NLLVB0P3ZkAaDi7I0PEYXmNZV+HaDaj 0lW7IVGoQGeYhd1ZYZDaD4p8w3bgmoVj27npylm2q4VQv+rUNxXgCRRIYiUiUxxzFeWe HdOAN9D/7Tx9bstMAnBS3kI/+QK2jV/GPHzB4= Received: by 10.239.132.70 with SMTP id 6mr123480hbq.192.1279866584185; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:29:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.181.76 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:29:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Antonio Kless Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:29:24 +0400 Message-ID: To: Randy Belk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-Ports Subject: Re: freecolor: Bus error. software or hardware problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:29:48 -0000 2010/7/23 Randy Belk > Have you updated your ports? This was an issue on the amd64 distribution, > but it was fixed. > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Antonio Kless wrote: > >> Strange freecolor behavior on fresh 8.0-RELEASE system. >> >> # uname -a >> FreeBSD alternate-1.net 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 >> 15:02:08 UTC 2009 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu: >> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC >> amd64 >> >> # freecolor -V >> freecolor version 0.8.8 >> >> # freecolor >> Bus error >> >> >> I have reinstall 7.3-RELEASE on this server, and get another look of >> error: >> >> # freecolor >> Bus error: 10 >> >> >> Is it software or hardware problem? >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Antonio Kless, >> http://kless.spb.ru/ >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > > -- > - Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. - Leonardo da Vinci > - Intelligence is not defined by what you know, It's how you USE it. > - People who hate Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use BSD. > Yes, I run # portsnap fetch update just about 1 hour ago. -- Best regards, Antonio Kless, http://kless.spb.ru/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 06:30:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907F4106566C; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:30:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antoniok.spb@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E604F8FC20; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:30:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so5281350fxm.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:30:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=fq6LUDKZsQkOUt0hnEW+LKck/831X5YgwyNjolBwNcg=; b=b+FTgE/t7Z3QA9ZGPq2IghiWxJBtfsFeCDdz7W1qTQZ9wjRguyyRtsRFXjm7o99VQr 9jUxYrYzz1CzEgzF1O+zm91/olHKr2XL4+ejovZ08x+An2zlTSuuiuFSNXAJZHErV4Kh 62e3Ey+pWT/CzcItuF4EGbzQluYSro/yFSDEM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=tcqe9cpdO/l0N6wWrdyG2+KjzeLqfr2tbbcxZZnJXRpDujcmd6TMJHrHmG5TQsTDaF 8O5AkpeR/dOoeGe4Ik8/YhrgtfXlDXenuQ5GuR+NC0wx0FPgkyFKeTtdy8K1AqFTe/Z5 +JlBETpgin0wGvReC3yOH0zWAtegsPWE8QTaI= Received: by 10.239.184.75 with SMTP id x11mr108613hbg.180.1279866632188; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:30:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.181.76 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:30:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Antonio Kless Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:30:12 +0400 Message-ID: To: Randy Belk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-Ports Subject: Re: freecolor: Bus error. software or hardware problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:30:35 -0000 2010/7/23 Antonio Kless > > > 2010/7/23 Randy Belk > > Have you updated your ports? This was an issue on the amd64 distribution, >> but it was fixed. >> >> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Antonio Kless wrote: >> >>> Strange freecolor behavior on fresh 8.0-RELEASE system. >>> >>> # uname -a >>> FreeBSD alternate-1.net 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 >>> 15:02:08 UTC 2009 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu: >>> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC >>> amd64 >>> >>> # freecolor -V >>> freecolor version 0.8.8 >>> >>> # freecolor >>> Bus error >>> >>> >>> I have reinstall 7.3-RELEASE on this server, and get another look of >>> error: >>> >>> # freecolor >>> Bus error: 10 >>> >>> >>> Is it software or hardware problem? >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Antonio Kless, >>> http://kless.spb.ru/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> - Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. - Leonardo da Vinci >> - Intelligence is not defined by what you know, It's how you USE it. >> - People who hate Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use BSD. >> > > > Yes, I run > # portsnap fetch update > just about 1 hour ago. > > -- > Best regards, > Antonio Kless, > http://kless.spb.ru/ > ...run it before I install freecolor port, of course. -- Best regards, Antonio Kless, http://kless.spb.ru/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 06:35:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758AC106566C for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:35:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7CB8FC13 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:35:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so3873668wwe.31 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:35:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Y7G/D/qhl4/Pf6Q+Qu49oGxG64b9P0d2AuAhYCgEkCA=; b=lQEal5aasqVu/vrbNFePCBda8PMQNbnmCTAWhekdEN9JaE6KgAtPOCjLyhhoZNbFZa e73v2FPeqZuD8rsp7HPkQ2AgFw6Uy6HVDRwnD47C/vpimu3H8AwVoprPqnbmNSekeBri 5+d9NQaLDCLXAMt8DGcvFRZzWOIy5GEfGTQ9U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=ALnpxfvtON+TGzPt6JiHIxVn3a29L43J290EDs2ZR4zANAZmWU8Pe+NODbHbGHqBDr mOgMSAq0kZoX+nuPCVwqFbbnJc3CN2y3WFA8xlDQWdyLlZUYBrFkVBtYnR8IEYQvmCxX Q66oTv8Be1kJPmOkuv7fDYzzY/DWhi0wC0+Sk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.176.83 with SMTP id a61mr2994665wem.47.1279866957879; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.171.10 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:35:57 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: ports INDEX file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:35:59 -0000 >Benjamin Lee wrote: >> On 07/22/2010 06:20 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: >>> I have a pristine install of 8.0. >>> There is no /usr/ports directory yet. >>> I am trying to use the "portcheckout" port and the "porteasy" port to >>> just populate the ports tree with only the ports I use. >>> >>> Problem is in both cases the above ports require an existing INDEX file >>> to process and since I have none they don't work. >>> >>> How can I just download the ports INDEX file? >>> Portsnap is not a solution. >I see in the source of porteasy that its fetching >http://www.freebsd.org/ports/INDEX-8.bz2 > >How can I verify this? Usually the index file is placed at $INDEXDIR/$INDEXFILE, as defined in $PORTSDIR/Mk/bsd.port.mk. In your case, by default, that would be /usr/ports/INDEX-8. As Matthew asked, do you really want to do this? By modern standards, the space required for the ports tree is modest (~550MB uncompressed), and you can learn a lot about what's available and how things work by looking through it. Plus you save the time required to implement this partial ports tree approach. If you really need to save the disk space, and don't have other special requirements, then considering using binary packages instead of compiling from source. If you do have special requirements -- e.g., you need to build ports with non-default options or special flags, or you don't trust foreign binary packages (in that case, though, you should probably be prepared to do a lot of work auditing the source code as well), and you don't have at least one machine with the required disk space, then maybe this approach is worthwhile. However, that seems unlikely. If you pursue the partial ports tree approach, you don't need to make or fetch an INDEX(which, although it may be a useful summary, may be inappropriate for parsing dependencies for ports built with non-default options), and you don't need to use either of the ports that you mentioned: as someone else said, you could just write a shell script to fetch the necessary infrastructure Makefiles (those in /usr/ports/Mk and the needed category subdirectories), and the desired port and it's dependencies, using cvs(1) (but you have to choose a server that permits anonymous cvs access, and learn cvs), csup(1) (configured to use a suitable cvsup server using the ports-all collection and the -i flag, which would permit you to grab only parts of that collection), or even an http client like fetch(1) (exploiting the fact that single ports can be downloaded in tarball form from cvsweb.freebsd.org in links of the form: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/$CATEGORY/$PORT/$PORT.tar.gz?tarball=1 and single Makefiles via other links). b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 07:01:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E4E106566C for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:01:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4528FC16 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:01:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OcCGV-0002IW-69 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:01:51 -0700 Message-ID: <29244514.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:01:51 -0700 (PDT) From: zaxis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: z_axis@163.com Subject: can i just upgrade the 8.1 kernel ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:01:51 -0000 >uname -a FreeBSD mybsd.zsoft.com 8.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Jul 1= 4 15:35:26 CST 2010 =20 root@mybsd.zsoft.com:/media/G/usr/obj/media/G/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL i386 Can i just use the following commands to upgrade to 8.1 kernel ? And does the virtualbox-ose still work under 8.1 ? # csup -g -L 2 -h cvsup.freebsd.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile # cd /usr/src # make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DMYKERNEL # make installkernel KERNCONF=3DMYKERNEL ----- e^(=CF=80=E2=8B=85i) + 1 =3D 0 --=20 View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/can-i-just-upgrade-the-= 8.1-kernel---tp29244514p29244514.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 07:34:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661C2106566C for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:34:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CC48FC1C for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:34:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so241635wwf.1 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:34:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ip3Ve3LP+LkFW1pFKA1KNNBFhcs5sOBsSx7MxJnCo7g=; b=DoA8ndHxmj1cbDZfn6wNf9Z5wASxWj2/ztVWawb2ZXIWf4ltZ8PJAzA+iRFK9uzuFH FQ+/CX9bKpf9EOcl/WZzmfYKSUfxc2RHi/gJhF5TYC2Seo/LwmjU69EgNe45ROBxL4bx pBxdKoDVEZWJilKmCfZMv4365B/RsZ2D+lPRk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=RI615PeHXGuClIlvcfGleGjR9FczXHNglLRUdaL/k/GQxJf7NKyadHZhOHzCsHPD/a e9eAokFWlaxUXFuz2GOTTQckTjfrZKxLGotYWD01oF54cpMKltJDjlbCb5Eu90NuWbz+ rkcGeMZchWwfNZBOcw4scpRSHSy5FrmBquBL4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.203.71 with SMTP id e49mr3040384weo.60.1279870484549; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.171.10 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:34:44 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: zaxis Subject: Re: can i just upgrade the 8.1 kernel ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:34:46 -0000 >FreeBSD mybsd.zsoft.com 8.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Jul 14 >15:35:26 CST 2010 >root at mybsd.zsoft.com:/media/G/usr/obj/media/G/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL i386 > >Can i just use the following commands to upgrade to 8.1 kernel ? And does >the virtualbox-ose still work under 8.1 ? Check the mailing lists and PRs to see if anyone has had problems. It probably works. ># csup -g -L 2 -h cvsup.freebsd.org >/usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile I think that this file contains: *default release=cvs tag=. which would update /usr/src to 9-CURRENT (-head). That doesn't sound like what you want. Instead, you probably want the stable-supfile in the same directory instead, which probably has(check this yourself): *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8 That would update your sources to the latest 8-STABLE, which is a little in advance of 8.1. Or you could change the tag to RELENG_8_1, to be more conservative. That would be 8.1+critical updates, if any. ># cd /usr/src ># make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL ># make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL You probably want to update the rest of the base system as well as the kernel. Follow the instructions near the bottom of /usr/src/UPDATING, something like: cd /usr/src make buildworld kernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL reboot in single user fsck -p / mount -u / mount -a adjkerntz -i mergemaster -p cd /usr/src make installworld make delete-old delete-old-libs mergemaster -i reboot b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 07:38:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD88B1065674 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:38:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from axelbsd@ymail.com) Received: from n23.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (n23.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [87.248.110.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B04B8FC15 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:37:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.146.182.178] by n23.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2010 07:37:59 -0000 Received: from [87.248.111.151] by t4.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2010 07:37:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp208.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2010 07:37:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 336655.64360.bm@omp208.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 64053 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jul 2010 07:37:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s1024; t=1279870679; bh=ZOy30CgEOZnnbZ5JN9aDm/WDIIFmZYEy2q1piIYCZZg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ADQpulVMT/A9paUShX8zVBr4JJXOb6JAxqlFWd/xDINhzdwRnTwuJ9EsxgLSNIKXIvXgqJReO3zShaCI3caboVFrhV9M7rUzZ6pn3FSc/8zaQeoVn/W7lS3iqFX2HYpw/wPS8CaoUXceTo4r5f4HmKBs99HgnHXlTq1/f72g+GY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=ymail.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tM8Aa1mtKBjhc2CLiU2DyJ/fwmY1gKqgekkaM3CrVhtT3aS2OznAFu3bR3ldksAcsVyfs4CAgCr+wxA9UfMq32XyGwCh3rJojGdwczLS1QwHmy5SwDz1iKoJ77Q87uVD+laUEO6QM4Kl8hA+AOGSXYTlSetIl9IIqYGqNpdk5Fc=; Message-ID: <133281.54908.qm@web24819.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: v6Or04MVM1nTnEO0xL9vvivMvk.afBbXQZXEPLUvU9n.Jj. IHHCNhOFSpqgzzYlBYEkgXILO4_oe_uAFeIv8.Tvs7Zoa45lgIUHutXzvg8s Vn3MqRNNiSV_I8sokHVXRvTO9UXSLvSxkdxDM6jxomPbSogBr35gSBtaQrQP WqDuGm7FFDXEsN4dr4ZpwS5W4ZVX9PAOujXL_kJwLd1mJ4UMjO5NFUdxZR8b DcUgnnzj2FQ01oPbPxUS.SRM- Received: from [193.57.110.171] by web24819.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:37:59 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.2.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:37:59 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexandre L." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, zaxis In-Reply-To: <29244514.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re : can i just upgrade the 8.1 kernel ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:38:01 -0000 I think you have not understood the handbook.=0AYou MUST rebuild both base = system and kernel to correctly upgrade your FreeBSD box to 8.1-RELEASE. =0A= If you let your system in 8.0-RELEASE and compile a kernel with 8.1 sources= , you will have problem.=0Ahttp://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/mak= eworld.html=0A=0A--- En date de=C2=A0: Ven 23.7.10, zaxis = a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:=0A=0A> De: zaxis =0A> Objet: can i just= upgrade the 8.1 kernel ?=0A> =C3=80: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Dat= e: Vendredi 23 juillet 2010, 7h01=0A> =0A> >uname -a=0A> FreeBSD mybsd.zsof= t.com 8.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD=0A> 8.0-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Jul 14=0A> 15:35:26= CST 2010=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =0A> root@mybsd.zsoft.com:/media/G/usr/obj/media/G/u= sr/src/sys/MYKERNEL=C2=A0=0A> i386=0A> =0A> Can i just use the following co= mmands to upgrade to 8.1=0A> kernel ? And does=0A> the virtualbox-ose still= work under 8.1 ?=0A> =0A> # csup -g -L 2 -h cvsup.freebsd.org=0A> /usr/sha= re/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile=0A> # cd /usr/src=0A> # make buildkernel= KERNCONF=3DMYKERNEL=0A> # make installkernel KERNCONF=3DMYKERNEL=0A> =0A> = -----=0A> e^(=CF=80=E2=8B=85i) + 1 =3D 0=0A> -- =0A> View this message in c= ontext: http://old.nabble.com/can-i-just-upgrade-the-8.1-kernel---tp2924451= 4p29244514.html=0A> Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at= =0A> Nabble.com.=0A> =0A> _______________________________________________= =0A> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> mailing list=0A> http://lists.freebs= d.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> To unsubscribe, send any mail = to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A> =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 07:40:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED86106566B for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:40:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6016D8FC1B for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:40:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6N7erL7015060 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:40:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o6N7erWT015059 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:40:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:40:53 +0200 From: Ruben de Groot To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100723074053.GA14985@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> <20100722112643.GA1570@ei.bzerk.org> <20100722095253.38994437@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100722095253.38994437@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:40:56 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:40:58 -0000 On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 09:52:53AM -0400, Jerry typed: > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:32:36 +0100 > krad articulated: > > > > yep I know exim is sendmail cli compatible, but the output from sendmail is > > not the same on exim (interactive prompt). You can probably get similar > > output from sendmail, but with most things sendmail it is archaic and > > obfuscated. > > With Postfix installed, using "sendmail -bv" works quite well. Unneeded. Same works with base sendmail. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 07:47:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39B41065676 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:47:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D428FC16 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:47:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6N7lRGo015125; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:47:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o6N7lPtN015124; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:47:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:47:25 +0200 From: Ruben de Groot To: "Alexandre L." Message-ID: <20100723074725.GB14985@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , "Alexandre L." , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, zaxis References: <29244514.post@talk.nabble.com> <133281.54908.qm@web24819.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <133281.54908.qm@web24819.mail.ird.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:47:30 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, zaxis Subject: Re: Re : can i just upgrade the 8.1 kernel ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:47:39 -0000 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 07:37:59AM +0000, Alexandre L. typed: > I think you have not understood the handbook. > You MUST rebuild both base system and kernel to correctly upgrade your FreeBSD box to 8.1-RELEASE. > If you let your system in 8.0-RELEASE and compile a kernel with 8.1 sources, you will have problem. s/will have/might have/ Usually, on the same branch, a newer kernel will just work. That's the purpose of ABI compatibility. Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 07:59:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCB91065673 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:59:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB3A8FC0A for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcDAD-0004Te-7F; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:59:25 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6N7xTck002746; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:59:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o6N7xTwc002745; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:59:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:59:29 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: User Questions , Ryan Coleman Message-ID: <20100723075929.GA2718@current.Sisis.de> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , User Questions , Ryan Coleman References: <20100722143910.GA9261@current.Sisis.de> <8333827E-9AE5-4374-91EC-68B620BEFBBB@cwis.biz> <20100722145710.GB9261@current.Sisis.de> <20100722150032.GB54396@catflap.slightlystrange.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20100722150032.GB54396@catflap.slightlystrange.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Cc: Subject: Re: where is pfm2afm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:59:29 -0000 El día Thursday, July 22, 2010 a las 04:00:32PM +0100, Daniel Bye escribió: > > > > Is 'pfm2afm' part of some port in /usr/ports? Thanks in advance > > print/ghostscript* installs something called pf2afm, which seems to be > the same thing. Yes, indeeed: $ pf2afm This is PF2AFM -- AFM generator (ver. 1.00) Usage: gs [-dNODISPLAY] -- pf2afm.ps disk_font_name Thanks for the hint matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 08:36:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE89106566C for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:36:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6727@bellsouth.net) Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [204.127.217.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2F88FC0A for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:36:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mueller6722.bellsouth.net (adsl-80-65-94.sdf.bellsouth.net[65.80.65.94]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc03) with SMTP id <20100723083608H03002t06pe>; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:36:08 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.80.65.94] Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:36:45 +0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4c49549d.UjJ7jZT3lSgF6oRi%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: system hangs on; "Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... " X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:36:09 -0000 > No I'm not going to start ripping my computer apart because FreeBSD can't deal > with my hard drive. I think the problem is a shortcoming in FreeBSD where it > can't deal with drives that have old stale RAID metadata on them. I'm just going > to have to wait until they can. Until then no FreeBSD for me. Back to crappy > windows. Don't think you have to go back to crappy windows until you've tried NetBSD and/or Linux. NetBSD install is easier than FreeBSD install, I've done both. There are lots of Linux live CDs that you can run without changing anything on the hard drive. You would get a dmesg that you could examine. You can get a lot of information on the many Linux distributions, and BSD too, on http://distrowatch.com/ NetBSD installation CD also gives you a good dmesg that you can examine, and you can go to a /bin/sh shell to view it with less. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 08:57:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C761065672 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:57:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924508FC1D for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:57:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.205]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:57:04 -0700 Message-ID: <4C495958.5000106@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:56:56 +0800 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bf1783@gmail.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jul 2010 08:57:04.0892 (UTC) FILETIME=[05D18BC0:01CB2A45] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports INDEX file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:57:04 -0000 b. f. wrote: >> Benjamin Lee wrote: >>> On 07/22/2010 06:20 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: >>>> I have a pristine install of 8.0. >>>> There is no /usr/ports directory yet. >>>> I am trying to use the "portcheckout" port and the "porteasy" port to >>>> just populate the ports tree with only the ports I use. >>>> >>>> Problem is in both cases the above ports require an existing INDEX file >>>> to process and since I have none they don't work. >>>> >>>> How can I just download the ports INDEX file? >>>> Portsnap is not a solution. > >> I see in the source of porteasy that its fetching >> http://www.freebsd.org/ports/INDEX-8.bz2 >> >> How can I verify this? > > Usually the index file is placed at $INDEXDIR/$INDEXFILE, as defined > in $PORTSDIR/Mk/bsd.port.mk. In your case, by default, that would be > /usr/ports/INDEX-8. > > As Matthew asked, do you really want to do this? By modern standards, > the space required for the ports tree is modest (~550MB uncompressed), > and you can learn a lot about what's available and how things work by > looking through it. Plus you save the time required to implement this > partial ports tree approach. If you really need to save the disk > space, and don't have other special requirements, then considering > using binary packages instead of compiling from source. > > If you do have special requirements -- e.g., you need to build ports > with non-default options or special flags, or you don't trust foreign > binary packages (in that case, though, you should probably be prepared > to do a lot of work auditing the source code as well), and you don't > have at least one machine with the required disk space, then maybe > this approach is worthwhile. However, that seems unlikely. > > If you pursue the partial ports tree approach, you don't need to make > or fetch an INDEX(which, although it may be a useful summary, may be > inappropriate for parsing dependencies for ports built with > non-default options), and you don't need to use either of the ports > that you mentioned: as someone else said, you could just write a > shell script to fetch the necessary infrastructure Makefiles (those in > /usr/ports/Mk and the needed category subdirectories), and the desired > port and it's dependencies, using cvs(1) (but you have to choose a > server that permits anonymous cvs access, and learn cvs), csup(1) > (configured to use a suitable cvsup server using the ports-all > collection and the -i flag, which would permit you to grab only parts > of that collection), or even an http client like fetch(1) (exploiting > the fact that single ports can be downloaded in tarball form from > cvsweb.freebsd.org in links of the form: > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/$CATEGORY/$PORT/$PORT.tar.gz?tarball=1 > > and single Makefiles via other links). > Well first thanks for the info you provided though it was all negative. I will explain what my goal is. First though, I have verified that the /usr/ports/INDEX-8 file can be gotten without the using cvs or cvsup. fetch -m "http://www.freebsd.org/ports/INDEX-8.bz2" does if fact work and the data on the file is as of 3 hours ago. So that indicates its being kept current. The -m means that if the date of the remote file is NOT newer then the local one, the download is bypassed. Now about my project. Since about 4.0 I stopped using the ports tree method. I now all most totally use the package system. I do not upgrade a RELEASE but instead use the "install from scratch" method about a few weeks after a new RELEASE is published. So since the package system is also re-build a new for each new RELEASE, I am all ways in sync. Now there are exceptions to using packages. In my case php5 was changed 3 RELEASES ago to no longer contain the apache module, so I now have to compile php5 from the port. But to short cut the compile process, I pre-install all of php5's dependents as packages. And of course I had to figure out who they all were by hand the first time and built a script that automates the whole procedure. I use cvsup at NEW RELEASE time to populate the empty ports tree with ports-base. Then I use cvsup to checkout the php5 make files and them "make install" and everything comes together just fine. Now the Freebsd method of the 22,000 individual ports each with 3 to 5 files is a method which has out lived its usefulness. TAKE NOTE: NO FLAME WAR INTENDED. I just think a option should exist for us who don't follow the bleeding edge. Sure to some people that big ports tree is no big deal, but I bet they don't do backups. That ports tree directory is a large resource hog if you lift the blinders and look at the big picture. I don't need a reason to convince the budget handlers for money to buy bigger and faster cpu machines or larger disk farms. I come from a world where one has to make do with what one has at hand. So in that light. Anything that can be done to reduce the size of the ports tree is money saved and resources conserved. And I bet I am not alone in the Freebsd world who believes in this. So since I have a method all ready working as I explained above, I am collecting information on the elements needed to write a shell script port application based on the method already described. Figure I will use cvsup to populate the port-base and checkout just the "parent" port make files. Read the INDEX file to automate finding the parent port dependents and reading the /var/db/pkg to skip an dependents all ready installed and then launch pkg_add to install the dependents and on any package failures cycle back and use cvsup to also checkout its make files, before issuing the "make install" on the parent. I an not re-inventing the ports tree, just changing the order in which all ready existing functions are performed. Some times when the horse will not come to the water to drink, you have to take the water to the horse to show him it wont hurt him. So if it takes writing a port application to demonstrate the value of this method to nudge the ports core team to consider alternatives to their method, then so be it. Along this same line of thought, Another area I have problems with is why don't the port make system go and checkout any dependent ports missing make files instead of halting like it does now. When installing a package it will auto install all of it dependents. The make port system should be changed so if a dependents make port files are absent, it pauses and auto checkouts then so the make compile process may continue with out interruption. This would go a very long way toward eliminations the need for a full ports tree. I believe the only reason this has not been done is it goes against the existing method of forcing users to carry a full ports tree. The old shop dies hard. Cant give up its old mind set. Just my 2 cents. WOW, that felt good to get off my chest. hahahahahaha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 09:12:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5980D1065678 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F7A8FC0C for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwk3 with SMTP id 3so41370qwk.13 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:12:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=24YWv30HjMnlIlXspHme6Y0y1a16TBg2NTnLWat0leg=; b=d78Jt0uG20nyFEX8cjKqw5T9atyeFx0MZ2FUw3rwC1yrQzLdVASG+0FOYEEi3vHDv3 +egr7M9t6OpPeDHqbMwfx8Yb1vjAV6YmepKW0uw+FnTafqTBBnsTdTCLtYMNXvg3llQ8 lH0vSdXEo9m7uZLlpj8pp99QOuHHixtB6a6PI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=kq/3Ayt3PARqW4lDLSgXIDIYUstwS9r1NXMDpRroCGrREScrwHOcotKkmBzNuNngRY yfmYv/BjOlqozSN7uMbtWfUFUflwAvqVCyqGwG4MgI/Gv82aBFcSTdLzSyWbTh9Xg0Hx QypE90IwysPtDpcSomI0I2DfLZLPGupnUt9JA= Received: by 10.224.10.70 with SMTP id o6mr2241599qao.72.1279876375214; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:12:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.183.211 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:12:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100722132854.07cbf915@scorpio> References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> <20100722112643.GA1570@ei.bzerk.org> <20100722095253.38994437@scorpio> <20100722132854.07cbf915@scorpio> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:12:35 +0300 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:12:56 -0000 On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Jerry wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:28:00 +0300 > Odhiambo Washington articulated: > > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Jerry > wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:32:36 +0100 > > > krad articulated: > > > > > > > > > > yep I know exim is sendmail cli compatible, but the output from > sendmail > > > is > > > > not the same on exim (interactive prompt). You can probably get > similar > > > > output from sendmail, but with most things sendmail it is archaic and > > > > obfuscated. > > > > > > With Postfix installed, using "sendmail -bv" works quite well. > > > > > > > With Postfix installed and configured or just installed? I just > installed. > > > > [wash@mail ~]$ ls -al /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 202361 Jul 22 17:23 /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > > [wash@mail ~]$ /usr/local/sbin/sendmail -bv odhiambo@gmail.com > > postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or > > directory > > Mail Delivery Status Report will be mailed to . > > > > [wash@mail ~]$ /usr/local/sbin/sendmail -d -bv odhiambo@gmail.com > > sendmail: illegal option -- d > > sendmail: illegal option -- d > > sendmail: fatal: usage: sendmail [options] > > > > [wash@mail ~]$ exim -bt odhiambo@gmail.com > > odhiambo@gmail.com > > router = dnslookup, transport = remote_smtp > > host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [209.85.227.27] MX=5 > > host alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [74.125.39.27] MX=10 > > host alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [74.125.53.27] MX=20 > > host alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [74.125.95.27] MX=30 > > host alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [74.125.65.27] MX=40 > > > > I cannot post the output that comes with -d here, it's so much that > trying > > to feed the trawl will get it chocked:-) > > > > > > > For starters, you are using the wrong sendmail. You need to use the > Postfix 'sendmail' version. > > $ which sendmail > /usr/sbin/sendmail > > I have Postfix installed and running. Sorry, I thought that was obvious. > > Typing: "man sendmail" should show this at the top of the page: > > "NAME sendmail - Postfix to Sendmail compatibility interface" > > If not, then something is configured incorrectly. By the way, in order > to run Postfix, you have to completely shutdown the base system's > 'sendmail' > > cat /etc/rc.conf > > # Shutdown sendmail > sendmail_enable="NO" > sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" > sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" > sendmail_submit_enable="NO" > > #Start Postfix > postfix_enable="YES" > > Looks like you are trying to coax me into running Postfix! I am an Exim-er by blood :-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 09:27:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B0F106564A for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:27:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonio@antonioshome.net) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9048E8FC16 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so1651024wyj.13 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.137.101 with SMTP id x79mr3218786wei.48.1279877222330; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from antonio.localnet (72.pool85-49-221.dynamic.orange.es [85.49.221.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v44sm29029weq.4.2010.07.23.02.27.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C49600A.5060104@antonioshome.net> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:25:30 +0200 From: Antonio Vieiro User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100630 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <912210.86576.qm@web113507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <912210.86576.qm@web113507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Spanish keyboard in X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:27:04 -0000 Hi, This is working for me correctly. In gnome select Sistema/Preferencias/Teclado (System/preferences/Keyboard) and select the appropriate layout. Also on my .bash_profile I've included a: export LANG="es_ES.ISO8859-15" Cheers, Antonio On 18/07/2010 18:49, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: > Hi,I'm trying to configure spanish keyboard in FreeBsd 8.1-RC2 with no luck, I've read many documents on the web, but they seem to be rather old, or assume that the user has Gnome or KDE installed, I use Awesome WM. > > Any hint? > > Leonardo M. Ramé > http://leonardorame.blogspot.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 09:37:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB661065673 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:37:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonio@antonioshome.net) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01BA8FC0A for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:37:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so740wyj.13 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.127.203 with SMTP id h11mr3200726wbs.203.1279877868348; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from antonio.localnet (72.pool85-49-221.dynamic.orange.es [85.49.221.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k46sm32283weq.34.2010.07.23.02.37.47 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C496290.7040806@antonioshome.net> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:36:16 +0200 From: Antonio Vieiro User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100630 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Gnome theme and window preferences not completely honored X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:37:50 -0000 Hi, I'm running 8.1-RC2 (metacity 2.30.1) and focus-follows-mouse simply doesn't work. I think this is a metactity bug or something, maybe this is related: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155450 Any workaround to have focus-follows-mouse again would be greatly appreciated, as I hate cliking on windows to focus them. Cheers, Antonio On 13/07/2010 23:26, Willoughby, Steve wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD 8.1-RC1 with Gnome 2.30.0 and am having a strange issue where I can set almost everything about the desktop appearance using the theme settings and the "preferences" tool, except the window decorations never change (internal icons, colors, etc, do) and things like focus-follows-mouse don't appear to be honored by the window manager. > > Going into the gconf editor shows that, for example, apps.metacity.general.focus_mode="sloppy", but I still have to click to type. > > I am probably missing something simple and obvious here, but I'm not spotting it yet. What can I look for next? > > Thanks! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 09:38:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA906106564A for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:38:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719998FC23 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:38:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so5371997fxm.13 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:38:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=uIXjmtm3mH1fiiC/6EpPh8MNaCETOVAkQHVc06HTkLw=; b=Lj1Sf7vqe75ThOfms6rkj+zcDmy3WlscM48O60fkNkMQqNb67oNsaLZEJ1uoZ7yzqf dmzcOfZMTWtaOddKJnPOx1X7N7YZU9t+u0uzh1ruMiNMecRO6KNz1L8T8OEd+AJhxkw8 wP//s1QglB+bgNrcuiikS4BV1NV7Y94chlIRA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=MzjGjDpVK90yuwBVPTg+xQPXcoiQx6qvsHTI77+aMpexIU4tESN8RcKRbj7nSMtOI/ Y0v5IlVvCSfwwSpjIfo/+igVNINEwc0ou90d59K1GIzkGJew2qmeZADmjpXhBWfH3Mmo jixQYEMaxsXHpahcVLqUAJ/wCiigUYI4M/gyU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.142.6 with SMTP id e6mr107483hba.31.1279877927126; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.160.201 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:38:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> <20100722112643.GA1570@ei.bzerk.org> <20100722095253.38994437@scorpio> <20100722132854.07cbf915@scorpio> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:38:47 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Odhiambo Washington Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:38:49 -0000 On 23 July 2010 10:12, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Jerry wrote: > > > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:28:00 +0300 > > Odhiambo Washington articulated: > > > > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Jerry > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:32:36 +0100 > > > > krad articulated: > > > > > > > > > > > > > yep I know exim is sendmail cli compatible, but the output from > > sendmail > > > > is > > > > > not the same on exim (interactive prompt). You can probably get > > similar > > > > > output from sendmail, but with most things sendmail it is archaic > and > > > > > obfuscated. > > > > > > > > With Postfix installed, using "sendmail -bv" works quite well. > > > > > > > > > > With Postfix installed and configured or just installed? I just > > installed. > > > > > > [wash@mail ~]$ ls -al /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 202361 Jul 22 17:23 /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > > > [wash@mail ~]$ /usr/local/sbin/sendmail -bv odhiambo@gmail.com > > > postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or > > > directory > > > Mail Delivery Status Report will be mailed to . > > > > > > [wash@mail ~]$ /usr/local/sbin/sendmail -d -bv odhiambo@gmail.com > > > sendmail: illegal option -- d > > > sendmail: illegal option -- d > > > sendmail: fatal: usage: sendmail [options] > > > > > > [wash@mail ~]$ exim -bt odhiambo@gmail.com > > > odhiambo@gmail.com > > > router = dnslookup, transport = remote_smtp > > > host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [209.85.227.27] MX=5 > > > host alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [74.125.39.27] MX=10 > > > host alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [74.125.53.27] MX=20 > > > host alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [74.125.95.27] MX=30 > > > host alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [74.125.65.27] MX=40 > > > > > > I cannot post the output that comes with -d here, it's so much that > > trying > > > to feed the trawl will get it chocked:-) > > > > > > > > > > > > For starters, you are using the wrong sendmail. You need to use the > > Postfix 'sendmail' version. > > > > $ which sendmail > > /usr/sbin/sendmail > > > > I have Postfix installed and running. Sorry, I thought that was obvious. > > > > Typing: "man sendmail" should show this at the top of the page: > > > > "NAME sendmail - Postfix to Sendmail compatibility interface" > > > > If not, then something is configured incorrectly. By the way, in order > > to run Postfix, you have to completely shutdown the base system's > > 'sendmail' > > > > cat /etc/rc.conf > > > > # Shutdown sendmail > > sendmail_enable="NO" > > sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" > > sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" > > sendmail_submit_enable="NO" > > > > #Start Postfix > > postfix_enable="YES" > > > > > Looks like you are trying to coax me into running Postfix! I am an Exim-er > by blood :-) > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." > -- Lucky Dube > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > don't do it!!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 09:46:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F241065673 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:46:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BE88FC08 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:46:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so8467wyj.13 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:46:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=gOgmhH475/oTz+B3ZxuaE4oLhBnAraHswqk+uIlBf9I=; b=epTCTN6Q92+gX9GJxa+RPdQCyRVs/ZJ8hDR7m59Z1xLfUO4yBUdlXMdL4KuLenX3eT xkVLevl24NBmFgFD/7m4UUO/5EFwIbeqzhDW/Vlp3j9vjUIZmGuWRmdEM4hlCmiR2yhu RTo2aBsCG9WPrNqzZl+SrwGCMzwgyVoTQM3W8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=tlJfOi7WN5Xstbw2t8IljVEPge/0/rIvs7m/MWbR3lu4hPoGHk/vY2irhwCh+gnhN9 xgfuAbxQa1zn5TLtTlfinIS6ZKg7uEKH7uWMrD93W01ZBtsOD1kPKIUqAaK82kueukXb Dx69vd4SKIg2vAfCZfHrjLp3F0jnnKguqzqnI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.70.200 with SMTP id p50mr3204408wed.54.1279878375201; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.171.10 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:46:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C495958.5000106@a1poweruser.com> References: <4C495958.5000106@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:46:15 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Fbsd8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports INDEX file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:46:16 -0000 On 7/23/10, Fbsd8 wrote: > b. f. wrote: >>> Benjamin Lee wrote: >>>> On 07/22/2010 06:20 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: ... >> > Well first thanks for the info you provided though it was all negative. I think that you were misinterpreting what I wrote if you think that it was all negative. > I will explain what my goal is. > > First though, I have verified that the /usr/ports/INDEX-8 file can be > gotten without the using cvs or cvsup. > > fetch -m "http://www.freebsd.org/ports/INDEX-8.bz2" does if fact work > and the data on the file is as of 3 hours ago. So that indicates its > being kept current. The -m means that if the date of the remote file is > NOT newer then the local one, the download is bypassed> Yes, as long as the server supports this, and doesn't unnecessarily change the mtime of the file. Minus some variable expansions, this is basically what the fetchindex target does. If you don't care about hard-coding version numbers, etc., then you might as well not invoke make at all, and just do what you're doing, because it's faster. ... > compile php5 from the port. But to short cut the compile process, I > pre-install all of php5's dependents as packages. And of course I had to > figure out who they all were by hand the first time and built a script > that automates the whole procedure. I use cvsup at NEW RELEASE time to > populate the empty ports tree with ports-base. Then I use cvsup to > checkout the php5 make files and them "make install" and everything > comes together just fine. You may be interested in using ports-mgmt/portmaster ( a shell script with minimal dependencies), which can do something similar to what you are trying to do with the --index-only, -P/-PP, and --packages-build flags. > Now the Freebsd method of the 22,000 individual ports each with 3 to 5 > files is a method which has out lived its usefulness. TAKE NOTE: NO There is no doubt that the increasing size of the tree, and the fact that some parts of the build infrastructure don't scale well, have created some challenges. But I hardly think that it has outlived its usefulness. > FLAME WAR INTENDED. I just think a option should exist for us who don't > follow the bleeding edge. Sure to some people that big ports tree is no Well, the bleeding edge versus snapshot issue is a bit different from the debate about the size and modularity of the ports tree. > big deal, but I bet they don't do backups. That ports tree directory is > a large resource hog if you lift the blinders and look at the big picture. I guess it depends upon the constraints that you are operating under. But fetching a new index is going to take about as much network traffic as an update of the ports tree with csup. > So since I have a method all ready working as I explained above, I am > collecting information on the elements needed to write a shell script > port application based on the method already described. Figure I will > use cvsup to populate the port-base and checkout just the "parent" port > make files. Read the INDEX file to automate finding the parent port > dependents and reading the /var/db/pkg to skip an dependents all ready > installed and then launch pkg_add to install the dependents and on any > package failures cycle back and use cvsup to also checkout its make > files, before issuing the "make install" on the parent. Just bear in mind that the default INDEX contains the dependencies for ports built with default options. Changing the options may result in different dependencies. Consider using portmaster. > Along this same line of thought, > Another area I have problems with is why don't the port make system go > and checkout any dependent ports missing make files instead of halting > like it does now. The ports system wasn't designed to meet your objectives. Delegating authority to perform bursts of unsupervised network activity at unpredictable intervals would probably be considered a problem by many users. And some tasks require the entirety of the tree to be present. > > When installing a package it will auto install all of it dependents. > There is interest in work with "fat packages" to do something like you describe: "Complete (a.k.a. Fat) packages Suggested Summer of Code 2010 project idea Technical contact: Brooks Davis When bootstrapping systems it would be useful to be able to create a single package file that contains one or more packages and all the required dependent packages. This is conceptually similar to, but different from PC-BSD's PBI package format. PBI's contain a private copy of all dependencies, fat packages would contain each individual package and once installed it would be as though each package was individually installed in the usual manner. This project would consist of additions to the pkg_tools to support creation and installation of a new package file format and to ports to build these packages. Requirements: Strong knowledge of C code. A basic understanding of the inner workings of the ports tree." Also, there is some ongoing work in a slightly different direction: http://wiki.freebsd.org/IvanVoras/pkg_patch PC-BSD has such a system, but it is very inefficient in it's use of disk space, etc., so I don't think it would appeal to you. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 11:15:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C00106564A for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:15:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990AE8FC0C for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:15:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so4078837wwe.31 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 04:15:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0Ief7kLmlkJg5d62qzCQ3tOJpOq8/sBKAY3LKslIqjQ=; b=ESrmO1Iy3W/6SWceQ8JKXarlR5Tac6nHtOg4PFxEnq8Pwzzge+lZ+LUBkuJCfOSB+A wspYzrkAXKi+nckgp17a0EdHkvzHR9edr6HsKOyr8Rvf83AZ2a2hvDKLg7uDkFFP+7K6 PQA+OEWcr4mmoL7xuPy7b3eNnIkxY8j9fzP5M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=I53RfXrvJyT4ySEBPkqRxsJBuIOZUvxWJujearKyMC4s3AVQWb0gI+xBQ7CuN5k0wZ hDaOqIWRdVSAa0M5TME0RFk6mCUvj8LlFzbgGHklcWLamSlECXhEbwm8tODdJJmNKR1i 0f8XOvzMhcT7bx2P59ItmhnmcJe6VdYkgOzq0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.27.197 with SMTP id j5mr2462054wbc.111.1279883721379; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 04:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.12.209 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 04:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:15:21 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: /usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__pselect' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:15:23 -0000 Hello fellas, Lately, most compile from ports end up with the following: /usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__pselect' followed by the port exit error. Ex for jdk: gcc -g -c -o launcher.o launcher.c -m32 -march=i586 -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/os/bsd/launcher -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/share/vm/prims -DFULL_VERSION=\"1.6.0_03-p4-root_23_jul_2010_13_39-b00\" -DARCH=\"i386\" -DGAMMA -DLAUNCHER_TYPE=\"gamma\" -DLINK_INTO_LIBJVM -D_ALLBSD_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -DIA32 -DPRODUCT -I. -I../generated/adfiles -I../generated/jvmtifiles -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/share/vm/asm -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/share/vm/ci -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/share/vm/code -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/share/vm/compiler -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/share/vm/gc_implementation -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/share/vm/gc_implementation/concurrentMarkSweep -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/share/vm/gc_implementation/parallelScavenge -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/share/vm/gc_implementation/shared -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/share/vm/gc_interface -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/share/vm/interpreter -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/share/vm/libadt -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/share/vm/memory -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/share/vm/oops -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/share/vm/opto -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/share/vm/prims -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/share/vm/runtime -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/share/vm/services -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/share/vm/utilities -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/cpu/i486/vm -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/os/bsd/vm -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/src/os_cpu/bsd_i486/vm -I../generated -DHOTSPOT_BUILD_VERSION="\"1.6.0_03-p4-root_23_jul_2010_13_39-b00\"" -DHOTSPOT_BUILD_USER="\"root\"" -DHOTSPOT_RELEASE_VERSION="\"1.6.0\"" { \ echo Linking launcher...; \ \ gcc -m32 -march=i586 -Xlinker -O1 -m32 -march=i586 -export-dynamic -L`pwd` -o gamma launcher.o -ljvm -lm -pthread; \ \ } Linking launcher... /usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__pselect' gmake[5]: *** [gamma] Error 1 gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/control/build/bsd-i586/hotspot/outputdir/bsd_i486_compiler2/product' gmake[4]: *** [the_vm] Error 2 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/control/build/bsd-i586/hotspot/outputdir/bsd_i486_compiler2/product' gmake[3]: *** [product] Error 2 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/control/build/bsd-i586/hotspot/outputdir' gmake[2]: *** [generic_build2] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/make' gmake[1]: *** [product] Error 2 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/hotspot/make' gmake: *** [hotspot-build] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk16. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk16. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/apache-ant. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3. Ideas? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 12:51:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D6B3106564A for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B218FC0A for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:51:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 6177 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2010 12:51:47 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Jul 2010 12:51:47 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id C35ED5084D; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:51:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Jeff Molofee References: <20100721055517.B6C321065752@hub.freebsd.org> <4C47D479.30901@telus.net> <44d3ufl3rd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4C4912B6.4040304@telus.net> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:51:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4C4912B6.4040304@telus.net> (Jeff Molofee's message of "Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:55:34 -0600") Message-ID: <448w52l5su.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is "software update" in a working state yet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:51:48 -0000 Don't top-post, please. Jeff Molofee writes: > packagekit... moreso gnome-packagekit I see. I don't know much about it, but I see that there's a "pkmon" tool for debugging it. > On 7/22/2010 1:23 PM, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> Jeff Molofee writes: >> >>> I've noticed software update pop up on the screen quite a bit lately. >>> Initially it popped up and did nothing. Now in 8.1-RC2 it pops up and >>> shows me that I actually have updates. When I click update, it seems >>> like it's actually attempting to upgrade the listed packages, but the >>> entire process always ends with "command 'update-packages' is not >>> known". >>> >>> Do I have something misconfigured or is it still incomplete? >> Pardon my naivete, but: >> >> What is "software update"? >> It sounds like a GUI-ish thing; >> Is it a part of some desktop manager? >> Do you know what it uses as a backend? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 14:55:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FA41065670 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8C38FC1B for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:55:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1898591bwz.13 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:55:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-type; bh=sY91yooVXyNowga3L+hr7Ahd3tOwFImkw403RpkyGUI=; b=PK4GKqObqSIZDCyJwnEYRMq3lz8lAN8CLjzrXH+ucgIewBGbHJcvbEUlX/08cofJmB 2QjrYuuu2oGxDKELP/v6UuVwVD5xEJekcd1D/nkzpWfZRqvtstgM9XREiDdWHJggRscR IEUHK8rr/L0z5vcnJyZTQIq0SDFmO/Gr58XJw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; b=h3sUduobM4a0RB2c6yve8hjK5P7MNRFTnoSjOAEj/1N71FeN8JVYP1SVg8eEAQpOo7 C+xQP7FvmFp3FUFHqSq9N3NwVkVUL2kNvnYKMClhkVnzP06i9Skd/dsN4hrGJyihYvie KWFAOj5uBmDCRU9BhjG7HEgooMpi0etOZ71Jw= Received: by 10.204.119.134 with SMTP id z6mr2461229bkq.193.1279896900276; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:55:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.161.207 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:54:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Chris Rees Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:54:29 +0100 Message-ID: To: Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: why do I require "WPA" in rc.conf even for open networks. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:55:02 -0000 On 23 July 2010 03:03, Eitan Adler wrote: > For some reason I can not connect to *any* wireless network regardless > of the connection type unless I have "WPA" in /etc/rc.conf right > before "DHCP". Why would I require this to connect to open networks? > > -- > Eitan Adler WPA means that wpa_supplicant is used, which can connect to any type of network, not just WPA. I suggest you read the man page at man 8 wpa_supplicant Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 15:09:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21201065675 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:09:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soulcatcher13@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2878FC12 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so360103iwn.13 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:09:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Nf59VjNfAToVC0e/EFJz/YZT97TcZ/aIHF73iWJLBWM=; b=O9YY9HeFjJn5iNyGMGnDsOD3aiDoaJCwzARH1q0mO/qsvLG9bOlYHsQZjn2GRVRA/y VR6FGck577yLsiHL78EFKPdZcEQAtrL1IjvYLyzoFa/5xXkLNh4WGL4V/qRXR3y+w2EM 6a/HvVIuONA7aAkbo1seUiwK5z3OelVjOJaNI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=F0LhbLsKmio1pxc7wXBUgm50gbQZaO2dcaUxyuYfkkU4mGT2MsNRRil4VSHGMCqfbe djDbDs8dG8iXiSaefHlj9Tl4iEMltxKX/6IsJvjFBgxW4ngEuGs/QobHx6Iy1WO4iqcg YUn8KCCQf5qaIUjug4ORqtyjTJCr2VeLmdH9o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.161.73 with SMTP id q9mr3860374ibx.70.1279896377904; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.214.147 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:46:17 +0400 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?B?c291bGNhdGNoZXLimKA=?= To: meskio@sindominio.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: locale problems with STL (C++) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:09:26 -0000 It seems that FreeBSD doesn't support C++ locales (at least by default). You could be interested in this thread: http://markmail.org/message/m7wrw35vak7hb2fp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 16:44:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65D1106566B for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:44:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@925.dk) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574A18FC16 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:44:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so4444297wwe.31 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:44:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.156.3 with SMTP id u3mr2003315wbw.19.1279901997141; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (0118600003.0.fullrate.dk [90.185.151.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v11sm259958weq.40.2010.07.23.09.19.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:19:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Martin Koch Andersen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:19:54 +0200 Message-Id: <165F7744-37AD-42F9-AB0B-3E1E1855D09E@925.dk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Subject: freebsd-install upgrade, how many install phases required X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:44:54 -0000 Hi, Will freebsd-install upgrade tell you, if any libraries version numbers = got bumped, and thus if installed packages needs rebuilding? I followed the handbook and did the 8.0-RELEASE to 8.1-RELEASE upgrade = like: freebsd-update -r 8.1-RELEASE upgrade freebsd-update install shutdown -r now freebsd-update install And then: portupgrade -af freebsd-update install shutdown -r now But was this last round of rebuilding installed ports etc. really = needed? Or would the second "freebsd-update install" have told me if it = was? In any case, the last "freebsd-update install" did nothing. Have a nice weekend all. Kind regards, --=20 Martin Koch Andersen http://925.dk= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 16:58:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ABDE1065672 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:58:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3EC8FC14 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so782902wwf.1 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:58:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=EEEXqGLQHth0KEHiJ6oEIAnhVOwmhcixn9JvhiVCtdI=; b=Uyf5j5bPkllE0MBYNn922id4vTFwDf7DHUxEvqV8jgwjXmBQ5dZwNBxqrgw/jwWUrv oCudXiiuQ6JgDRcAwgv2fpLtc8gC7PVDjotoXZinUIWE8+0YZumbqy/hTzkJ2RgU5X41 /Jn9hNyKDSlpxBSB/kA/j+AhbKVrHRVGcXfSY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=DP6QIjuHvfXUbI9UnuvT/XETloT0jP8ViZH4aqEJYIIJHFFhnLEA52tAXGNk4UXuzL MVpTXjsQr3ALxfcxL1OotDg93K8YxWec1aINgqFR6ZVbclopP/nbH40fls7JsEcIO0bU EPqgN+Goueho/iNG2gCiyxF9qUcExkDk2/5Hc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.146.139 with SMTP id h11mr3719734wbv.197.1279904327352; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.229.202 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:58:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4C3F91CF.5090206@locolomo.org> <4C419944.8030702@locolomo.org> <4C447F7F.6020308@locolomo.org> <4C45D57F.2020506@locolomo.org> <4C45F0F1.7010609@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:58:47 -0400 Message-ID: From: alexus To: Erik Norgaard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipnat.conf - map and rdr won't work! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: google@alexus.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:58:49 -0000 small update: i just re-build jail and again where I was... so it seems like its not jail related issue although ... I also tried new rdr rule but to resides on same interface and that worked no problem... i just did jail on public ip where i dont need to use ipnat, so obviously that works fine no problem not really what i wanted though but as a temporary fix its fine... i still would like to know what happened and also how to fix it :) -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 18:02:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C93C106567A for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward15.mail.yandex.net (forward15.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBA78FC22 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp14.mail.yandex.net (smtp14.mail.yandex.net [95.108.131.192]) by forward15.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id C19B34459C80 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 22:02:36 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1279908156; bh=l7EtVt20EXC026EEYkwpjQT7LEXHwiY31Qyd5OtzquU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=U340TVftC5ld7EoYo0lyj0yLjmXNM+El+in3iV+kzPnNJTErUIi4y5/HP4HitEmrG OOiEuyQuIYvBDhGHtYJlndXd5trSmrg2BDMPYPFPHSjhE29XX9hdm9l/ZFnEJ1qIzc CHLgu20wiAR9726sgCgW/eBZ06YA9QR0vuH2dEhc= Received: from HOMEUSER (unknown [77.93.38.41]) by smtp14.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTPA id 90FB719B805C for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 22:02:36 +0400 (MSD) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:02:53 +0300 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1910002213.20100723210253@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44hbjrl3vo.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <44hbjrl3vo.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1279908156 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp14.mail.yandex.net Subject: pipe vs queues: many queues slows down network speed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:02:39 -0000 Hi c pipe 46 config bw 15Mbit/s queue 50 mask dst-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c queue 46 config pipe 46 queue 50 mask dst-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 ipfw add 5620 pipe 46 ip from any to any out xmit ng* -- works fine if I add instead ipfw add 5620 queue 46 all from any to any out xmit ng* it work fine too but if there less then about 40 queues if there many queues 60-100 each queue get 1-2Mbit/s Maximum bandwidth I can do is 75Mbit Current bandwidth is 30-35Mbit So one any client (queue) may gen ~30Mbit when in firewall pipe it can do when in firewall is queue it can't: only 1-2Mbit/s =( any sugestions? -- Konkov Eugen mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 18:24:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE9B1065673 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:24:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD528FC23 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:24:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-179-206.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.179.206]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66BF31E3C9 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:24:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o6NIOorg004691 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:24:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:24:50 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20100723202450.ea80c86f.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Text mode screen size max. compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:24:53 -0000 I'm going to write a program that will be a text mode application. In FreeBSD, the default text mode screen size is 80x25. Also, many terminal emulators for X default to that size, as well as SSH clients used in the "Windows" land. Allthough 80x25 sounds alot, it may be useful to use a bigger screen size, like on the IBM 3270 terminals that default to 132x40 (or nearly that). The modes listed in "man vidcontrol" also contain bigger sizes than 80x25: 80x30, 80x43, 80x50, 80x60, 132x25, 132x30, 132x43, 32x50, 132x60 and additionally vGA_40x25, VGA_80x25, VGA_80x30, VGA_80x50, VGA_80x60, VGA_90x25, VGA_90x30, VGA_90x43, VGA_90x50, VGA_90x60, EGA_80x25, EGA_80x43, VESA_132x25, VESA_132x43, VESA_132x50, VESA_132x60. It's also possible to use -geometry for xterm to define a similar size. Here are my questions: Is there a way to easily determine the terminal output size at program startup so the program can be preconfigured for certain screen sizes, and even refuse to run if it's less than 80x25? Can the program get any notification if the terminal output size has been changed (e. g. by changed window size), especially when running in an X terminal emulator, so it can re-arrange things? I know it takes some work (i. e. settings) to enable a bigger screen size in the default text mode, but in X, it's quite easy. If it was just that, querying $TERM and $DISPLAY would be enough to check if we're in text or in X, but how to get more information about what terminal output size is currently set in X? Oh, and the program will be written in C. Due to maximum compatibility, I want to try to keep the program in text mode (so it's easier to use it via SSH with no X server present); in any other case, I would surely default to Tcl/Tk. :-) Any suggestions or advices? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 18:43:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068271065675 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:43:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63EC8FC1F for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:43:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.local (unknown [89.204.153.252]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3BFA01C0871; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:43:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C49E2CD.7020607@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:43:25 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: google@alexus.org References: <4C3F91CF.5090206@locolomo.org> <4C419944.8030702@locolomo.org> <4C447F7F.6020308@locolomo.org> <4C45D57F.2020506@locolomo.org> <4C45F0F1.7010609@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: alexus , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipnat.conf - map and rdr won't work! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:43:40 -0000 On 23/07/10 18.58, alexus wrote: > i just did jail on public ip where i dont need to use ipnat, so > obviously that works fine no problem > not really what i wanted though but as a temporary fix its fine... With all respect, I think you should start liking this solution, because for all I understand, this is the right solution. If external access to the jail was otherwise through rdr, there is really no benefit at all, securitywise or otherwise. But allowing the jail to bind directly on the ip that external clients connect to you get simplicity and ease of configuration. BR, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 18:44:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75204106566B for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:44:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ahamiltonwright@mta.ca) Received: from smtpx.mta.ca (smtpx.mta.ca [138.73.1.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4714A8FC22 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [138.73.29.51] (port=49198 helo=qemg.org) by smtpx.mta.ca with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OcNER-0001tP-Up; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:44:27 -0300 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:44:27 -0300 (ADT) From: "A. Wright" To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20100723202450.ea80c86f.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20100723202450.ea80c86f.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: ahamiltonwright@mta.ca Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Text mode screen size max. compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:44:30 -0000 On Fri, 23 Jul 2010, Polytropon wrote: > Is there a way to easily determine the terminal output size at > program startup so the program can be preconfigured for certain > screen sizes, and even refuse to run if it's less than 80x25? The "curses" library will do this. The variables LINES and COLS will tell you what you want. #include main() { initscr(); printw("LINES = %d, COLS=%d -- press a key to quit\n", LINES, COLS); refresh(); getch(); endwin(); exit(0); } A. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 19:06:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5EA106564A for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:06:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58518FC13 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:06:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (h-74-2-96-2.chcgilgm.static.covad.net [74.2.96.2]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2B5CF284AD; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C49E848.4060900@cyberleo.net> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:06:48 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100710 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fbsd8 References: <4C495958.5000106@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4C495958.5000106@a1poweruser.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: bf1783@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports INDEX file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:06:51 -0000 On 07/23/2010 03:56 AM, Fbsd8 wrote: > Now the Freebsd method of the 22,000 individual ports each with 3 to 5 > files is a method which has out lived its usefulness. TAKE NOTE: NO > FLAME WAR INTENDED. I just think a option should exist for us who don't > follow the bleeding edge. Sure to some people that big ports tree is no > big deal, but I bet they don't do backups. That ports tree directory is > a large resource hog if you lift the blinders and look at the big picture. Not really: # mkisofs -D -R -no-pad -iso-level 4 -V ports-$(date "+%Y%m%d%H%M%S") -o ports.iso /usr/ports # mkuzip -s 65536 -o ports.iso.uzip ports.iso # mdconfig -a -t vnode -u 7 -f ports.iso # kldload geom_uzip # mount -t cd9660 /dev/md7.uzip /usr/ports # du -sh ports ports.iso ports.iso.uzip # As of last update July 4th 834M ports 565M ports.iso 69M ports.iso.uzip Needs mkisofs and FreeBSD >= 7, but it reduces the impact of the tree drastically, and can speed up metadata operations, if your disk happens to be slower than your CPU, as the whole tree (or at least all the filesystem metadata) can be feasibly cached compressed in memory. It also ensures congruent package versions, if you process the tree on one machine and distribute it to all others. Plus, you can exclude the tree from backup entirely and just cache the compressed file someplace safe. I use this same trick with Gentoo's Portage tree, with squashfs, and observe similar benefits. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 19:08:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798581065687 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:08:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E778FC15 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:08:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-179-206.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.179.206]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17ACD1EEFF; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:08:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o6NJ8F6M004809; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:08:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:08:14 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "A. Wright" Message-Id: <20100723210814.44ff8bd1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20100723202450.ea80c86f.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Text mode screen size max. compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:08:17 -0000 On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:44:27 -0300 (ADT), "A. Wright" wrote: > > On Fri, 23 Jul 2010, Polytropon wrote: > > > Is there a way to easily determine the terminal output size at > > program startup so the program can be preconfigured for certain > > screen sizes, and even refuse to run if it's less than 80x25? > > The "curses" library will do this. The variables LINES and COLS > will tell you what you want. Cool - I planned to use (n)curses anyway. But one question remains: Is there an "interrupt line" (or something functionally similar, a flag or whatever) that will give the chance for a notification if LINES or COLS has recently changed, e. g. through a window size modification? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 19:24:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1251065676 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:24:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CE88FC08 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:24:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id o6NJOtwK083966 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:24:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6NJOtiP074152 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:24:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o6NJOtTE074151; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:24:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:24:54 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20100723192454.GB7343@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20100723202450.ea80c86f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100723210814.44ff8bd1.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100723210814.44ff8bd1.freebsd@edvax.de> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:24:56 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: "A. Wright" , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Text mode screen size max. compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:24:59 -0000 In the last episode (Jul 23), Polytropon said: > On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:44:27 -0300 (ADT), "A. Wright" wrote: > > > > On Fri, 23 Jul 2010, Polytropon wrote: > > > Is there a way to easily determine the terminal output size at program > > > startup so the program can be preconfigured for certain screen sizes, > > > and even refuse to run if it's less than 80x25? > > > > The "curses" library will do this. The variables LINES and COLS will > > tell you what you want. > > Cool - I planned to use (n)curses anyway. But one question remains: Is > there an "interrupt line" (or something functionally similar, a flag or > whatever) that will give the chance for a notification if LINES or COLS > has recently changed, e. g. through a window size modification? If you haven't trapped the SIGWINCH signal (which is sent on terminal size changes) yourself, ncurses will install its own handler. It will queue a virtual KEY_RESIZE keypress that you can check for in your input loop. You can then redraw your display to fit the new window size. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 19:28:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566201065672 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:28:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout025.mac.com (asmtpout025.mac.com [17.148.16.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3847B8FC21 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:28:30 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp025.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L6000AUVZEZGP70@asmtp025.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:28:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1007230093 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-07-23_07:2010-07-23, 2010-07-23, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <20100723210814.44ff8bd1.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:28:11 -0700 Message-id: References: <20100723202450.ea80c86f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100723210814.44ff8bd1.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Polytropon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: "A. Wright" , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Text mode screen size max. compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:28:30 -0000 Yes-- On Jul 23, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Polytropon wrote: > Cool - I planned to use (n)curses anyway. But one question remains: > Is there an "interrupt line" (or something functionally similar, > a flag or whatever) that will give the chance for a notification > if LINES or COLS has recently changed, e. g. through a window > size modification? Yes, ncurses supports this: The ncurses library includes facilities for responding to window resiz- ing events, e.g., when running in an xterm. See the resizeterm(3X) and wresize(3X) manual pages for details. In addition, the library may be configured with a SIGWINCH handler. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 19:41:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B4C106566C for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:41:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DEBF8FC1B for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so649236wyj.13 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:41:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=qO3BHxdt/G7H13fXAyV1RTQSXTiRqEN24k9nzDykMdE=; b=MnlMyeo/Bpgj4hlLmngQTuTsxmMCl26Q80GB8gJltlFn0vKraxseHME5qp6prien0i 69QdWjQQJ8yaaFMM+Ox6016vrAx9XzFf06H+QFWLCSTISv4C45odiTKfuNXASAv+zF2v 0OfHljFLtoROLEAKP2dXGbwG1dr4HE0q1wEZI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=oT1mLP9Wx9kwkiPl7CUpu/4LXl31/W1az928OPSvLXK29wPBodMuuBu+kas1ypmEoM +jRzqo799i0VlVThZspm1h0Ir4dG/GzS0rFCK3tywg9uNnIUsTNqKNxhetu/PYJ2dmWU ubo6vD3YlDvKoHXLw0AfMmlAyhJft1OpiTYfI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.208.7 with SMTP id ga7mr3907853wbb.126.1279914074015; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.229.202 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:41:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C49E2CD.7020607@locolomo.org> References: <4C3F91CF.5090206@locolomo.org> <4C419944.8030702@locolomo.org> <4C447F7F.6020308@locolomo.org> <4C45D57F.2020506@locolomo.org> <4C45F0F1.7010609@locolomo.org> <4C49E2CD.7020607@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:41:13 -0400 Message-ID: From: alexus To: Erik Norgaard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipnat.conf - map and rdr won't work! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: google@alexus.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:41:15 -0000 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Erik Norgaard wrote: > On 23/07/10 18.58, alexus wrote: > >> i just did jail on public ip where i dont need to use ipnat, so >> obviously that works fine no problem >> not really what i wanted though but as a temporary fix its fine... > > With all respect, I think you should start liking this solution, because for > all I understand, this is the right solution. > > If external access to the jail was otherwise through rdr, there is really no > benefit at all, securitywise or otherwise. But allowing the jail to bind > directly on the ip that external clients connect to you get simplicity and > ease of configuration. > > BR, Erik > true, i agree and i do like this solution better, but that solution wont allow me to expand let me explain what i mean by that let's take for example i'm running more then one jail... while i can bind all of them to same public IP address i'm going have to deal with running for example same sshd on different ports, yet before i'd just use rdr rule to route it appropriately. i guess its not really a big deal but still while we found very nice work around i still somehow would like to know what happened, why ipnat stop working all the sudden.. i'd like to say thank you to you and anyone else who was involved in this discussion -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 20:05:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1BC1065672 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:05:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@b1c1l1.com) Received: from lancer.b1c1l1.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f358:1a:1a:1000::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C318FC21 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:05:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nsx.b1c1l1.com (nsx.b1c1l1.com [IPv6:2001:470:83fb:0:250:8dff:fe9a:f666]) by lancer.b1c1l1.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1EC975C21; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:05:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C49F5F4.7000502@b1c1l1.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:05:08 -0700 From: Benjamin Lee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100722 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fbsd8 References: <4C495958.5000106@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4C495958.5000106@a1poweruser.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE5AC33410B9E0BBEC97BE4D1" Cc: bf1783@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports INDEX file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:05:15 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE5AC33410B9E0BBEC97BE4D1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/23/2010 01:56 AM, Fbsd8 wrote: > Now about my project. Since about 4.0 I stopped using the ports tree > method. I now all most totally use the package system. I do not upgrade= > a RELEASE but instead use the "install from scratch" method about a few= > weeks after a new RELEASE is published. So since the package system is > also re-build a new for each new RELEASE, I am all ways in sync. Now > there are exceptions to using packages. In my case php5 was changed 3 > RELEASES ago to no longer contain the apache module, so I now have to > compile php5 from the port. But to short cut the compile process, I > pre-install all of php5's dependents as packages. And of course I had t= o > figure out who they all were by hand the first time and built a script > that automates the whole procedure. I use cvsup at NEW RELEASE time to > populate the empty ports tree with ports-base. Then I use cvsup to > checkout the php5 make files and them "make install" and everything > comes together just fine. Why not build packages in-house then? You've already assumed the bootstrapping cost of a full ports tree checkout to do the dependency scan for php5 -- why not build the binary package (with your relevant make options) there as well? Then the rest of your machines can install *everything* from packages, and therefore won't require *any* of the ports tree, not even some subset of exceptions that need to be compiled. This would save even more resources, since you only compile php5 once, rather than once per machine. --=20 Benjamin Lee http://www.b1c1l1.com/ --------------enigE5AC33410B9E0BBEC97BE4D1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMSfX5AAoJEHBW16CPoSMCL1gP/RajXfsUbVJSTSa7IUdaGdzj FwpQNoMDY1jhKpauIFlulaM/Equ+TufdjbPJvFog3Dyq6OcaFOYl0m8JDfjUjCdI pyoIW5Bt+Tib6zyahMBN/rC4WD3NfrYzqus4DihNYvSxb/vrAOvpRhEw+WIo5a4H ba+MUz8NtK1KhXXu2WYXMRv7bNazlzvtwrcFQtJVxbLO5hXYQ1Vv/UY/xuVDX45v tERefC5O5wjVQJtBAgZdRR/Zm73WU3HO+WC462ooxWUScan3DHnWFoNdeTLowwwK LKTRII6mDBLM3ZXzZr0OUBL2kv6yZ7aXMIFJbqquIc3ans+C7NS+wmKbQP3g9yUg /YZXltxZek40u468hw4Ts9SzFBLZpiRD5d3/BQBzwyVpIzz1AhXvnia4a121u4MM yI4ZA7uK1tLOBzzHg4iDS8T9RXzey6Tq5IcxPLmyt3wHXJsrdz1B3ElMrpvRKjqU xte5NVcsw/jtK42/8X7PS2RCk53B0+P8MbHJdiG7JP2nWTPD0xxLoso7gTMb6IQM Vxa8yrR54+cEggr/7CmiCrF/zUwinmF0Mi48A7c/STI6Wt3y85AiTrRIPFJHDdKf CPLhne+daEB35E52AcT7tL67A5mhIMXgfsRecFcorY6uR4TMJILv0dkQGHryWijs 6ixAp9IYuIuAHa59UAb4 =8rnW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE5AC33410B9E0BBEC97BE4D1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 19:50:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4E71065678 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:50:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from constellation.thenetnow.com (constellation.thenetnow.com [207.112.4.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4383C8FC1A for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:50:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANTPC) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OcOGe-000JoX-PI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:50:49 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:50:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:15:18 +0000 Subject: periodic sending mail rejects. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:50:50 -0000 Hi all, I have added this to /etc/periodic.conf: daily_status_mail_rejects_enable="NO" daily_status_mail_rejects_logs=0 daily_status_mail_rejects_shorten="NO" and changed /etc/defaults/periodic.conf to: daily_status_mail_rejects_enable="NO" daily_status_mail_rejects_logs=3 daily_status_mail_rejects_shorten="NO" any yet, I am still getting all email rejects in my daily periodic emails? Is there anything else I can do? -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 20:20:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF3F1065674 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:20:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE07B8FC12 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:20:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6NKKOTw037991 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:20:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C49F980.8060008@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:20:16 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Koch Andersen References: <165F7744-37AD-42F9-AB0B-3E1E1855D09E@925.dk> In-Reply-To: <165F7744-37AD-42F9-AB0B-3E1E1855D09E@925.dk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig6457A5B2001872FE63BC22CC" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-install upgrade, how many install phases required X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:20:30 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig6457A5B2001872FE63BC22CC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 23/07/2010 17:19:54, Martin Koch Andersen wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Will freebsd-install upgrade tell you, if any libraries version numbers= got bumped, and thus if installed packages needs rebuilding? >=20 > I followed the handbook and did the 8.0-RELEASE to 8.1-RELEASE upgrade = like: >=20 > freebsd-update -r 8.1-RELEASE upgrade > freebsd-update install > shutdown -r now > freebsd-update install freebsd-update only updates the *base* system. It doesn't update the ports tree at all. For that, you need portsnap, which works very much like freebsd-update (or else one of a number of alternatives like csup(1), which work differently.) Once you've updated the ports tree using portsnap (or whatever) then you can update your installed ports from it, which is where tools like portupgrade(1) or portmaster(1) come in. portupgrade(1) won't find any work to do unless you have run portsnap first. > And then: >=20 > portupgrade -af > freebsd-update install > shutdown -r now >=20 > But was this last round of rebuilding installed ports etc. really neede= d? Or would the second "freebsd-update install" have told me if it was? I= n any case, the last "freebsd-update install" did nothing. If the OS major version is the same, then the shlib ABI version on all the shlibs in the base system is still the same. That's a guarantee by the FreeBSD project. Or in other words, binary compatibility between all 8.x releases (or all 7.x, or whatever). So, there is no reason to update ports that is caused by using freebsd-update to do a minor version upgrade. No, you didn't need to run 'portupgrade -af' at all. Running portsnap and then 'portupgrade -a' would however have been a reasonably good idea since you were in an upgrading mood. Ports may well have become out of date due to the normal updating of the ports tree over the passage of time. This is largely independent of development schedules in the base system, so should there can be updates available to apply at just about any time. On the other hand, if you do a *major* version upgrade, you simply *do* need to reinstall every port. freebsd-update warns you about this directly, and the necessity of doing so is well documented all over the place eg. at Colin Percival's blog: http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2007-11-11-freebsd-major-version-upgrade.= html Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig6457A5B2001872FE63BC22CC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxJ+YgACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyu3gCeKhI0WZiNC9997VjtgO22zPNo rtsAn3TG/6UbcnsabfuDri3KU+HIxXPP =XCJa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig6457A5B2001872FE63BC22CC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 20:27:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4C1106576E for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=8135343e3=neils@tamu.edu) Received: from os-mail-1.tamu.edu (os-mail-1.tamu.edu [165.91.23.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC778FC13 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:27:16 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: os-mail-1.tamu.edu; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=165.91.70.18; receiver=os-mail-1.tamu.edu; envelope-from="neils@tamu.edu"; x-sender="neils@tamu.edu"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None identity=mailfrom; client-ip=165.91.70.18; receiver=os-mail-1.tamu.edu; envelope-from="neils@tamu.edu"; x-sender="neils@tamu.edu"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=165.91.70.18; receiver=os-mail-1.tamu.edu; envelope-from="neils@tamu.edu"; x-sender="postmaster@ariel.met.tamu.edu"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible X-HAT: SG INTERNAL_RELAY, P $RELAY, L IncomingMail X-SRBS: None X-EXTLoop1: 165.91.70.18 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,249,1278306000"; d="scan'208,217";a="124472181" Received: from ariel.met.tamu.edu ([165.91.70.18]) by os-mail-1.tamu.edu with ESMTP; 23 Jul 2010 14:58:04 -0500 Received: from dusan.met.tamu.edu (dusan.met.tamu.edu [165.91.168.29]) by ariel.met.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9014E4D56 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:58:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Neil Smith Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:58:06 -0500 Message-Id: <178EAA50-D7FE-4355-91EC-3C1018465568@tamu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: monitor util in a scripted daemon? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:27:16 -0000 - Is there a command (native, shell, or ports collection) to sit and = watch for new file creation in a directory? - I'd like to build a system startup script for such a command and its = scripted actions. Sound possible? - Is there already something in the default OS that does something = similar? Thanks, -Neil --- Neil Smith neils@tamu.edu Comp. Sys. Mngr., Atmospheric Sciences From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 20:33:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090641065674 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:33:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gautham@lisphacker.org) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF5B8FC18 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:33:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so514856qyk.13 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:33:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.31.138 with SMTP id y10mr3016129qac.289.1279917185600; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Sender: gautham@lisphacker.org Received: by 10.229.211.212 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 02:03:03 +0530 X-Google-Sender-Auth: -rhuP9QiWhEhSsIqAopmNm5MoBY Message-ID: From: Gautham Ganapathy To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: 64-bit Windows XP NDIS drivers giving missing symbols X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:33:07 -0000 Hi I have an Alienware m11x with a Dell 1520 wireless minicard (Broadcom BCM4353 chipset). It comes with only Windows 7 drivers, but I was able to download Windows XP drivers seperately. However, after I generate the kernel module (I am using the 64-bit WinXP driver and freebsd amd64), I get errors when I try to load it. It says that the following symbols are missing ZwQueryInformationFile ZwCreateFile ZwReadFile IoUnregisterPlugPlayNotification ExFreePoolWithTag According to MSDN, these were introduced in Windows 2000. Is there any way of getting this driver running ? Regards Gautham From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 20:43:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963E41065674 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:43:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7440D8FC08 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:43:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 68-189-245-235.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.245.235] helo=cube.entropy.prv) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OcP5w-000D9L-8H; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:43:53 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by cube.entropy.prv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8980D42D8449; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:43:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C49FEFB.2060207@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:43:39 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Neil Smith References: <178EAA50-D7FE-4355-91EC-3C1018465568@tamu.edu> In-Reply-To: <178EAA50-D7FE-4355-91EC-3C1018465568@tamu.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: monitor util in a scripted daemon? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:43:54 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Neil Smith wrote: > - Is there a command (native, shell, or ports collection) to sit and watch for new file creation in a directory? > - I'd like to build a system startup script for such a command and its scripted actions. Sound possible? > - Is there already something in the default OS that does something similar? > > > Thanks, > -Neil > --- > Neil Smith neils@tamu.edu > Comp. Sys. Mngr., Atmospheric Sciences Hi Neil, I haven't used it yet, but gamin should do the trick: http://www.freshports.org/devel/gamin/ I don't see why you couldn't wrap it with a startup script so a list of monitored files/directories could be added to /etc/rc.conf. Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFMSf770sRouByUApARAkOAAJwIGJt4trCutsSGCugzGjB93yZx8ACgjdOe o1tEuLiA8wanazn9MlsS3DE= =n83K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 20:44:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21281065672 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:44:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED4F8FC17 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:44:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6NKiiMx038273 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:44:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C49FF35.3090201@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:44:37 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Neil Smith References: <178EAA50-D7FE-4355-91EC-3C1018465568@tamu.edu> In-Reply-To: <178EAA50-D7FE-4355-91EC-3C1018465568@tamu.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigDC07663C78D16F760B58D3CF" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: monitor util in a scripted daemon? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:44:49 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDC07663C78D16F760B58D3CF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 23/07/2010 20:58:06, Neil Smith wrote: > - Is there a command (native, shell, or ports collection) to sit and wa= tch for new file creation in a directory? gamin -- http://people.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/ > - I'd like to build a system startup script for such a command and its = scripted actions. Sound possible? It's in ports already. Doesn't appear to have a separate rc script -- it's part of gnome, and would get run along with those applications. > - Is there already something in the default OS that does something simi= lar? Look at kevent(2), kqueue(2) -- the EVFILT_VNODE filter can be used to pick up changes to the link count of a directory: ie that a file has been created or destroyed within it. Some C programming required. AFAIK there isn't a ready built application in the base OS to do what you want.= Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigDC07663C78D16F760B58D3CF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxJ/zwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIw0ZACbBRhx1jvQjBuxT5z1JjyVC0Nh cSwAn1lGRv6JHWlkI6y9mVqEkeIiB36T =5hdn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigDC07663C78D16F760B58D3CF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 20:51:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4BC106566B for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:51:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ECC58FC12 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:51:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-179-206.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.179.206]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338181DCF4 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 22:51:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o6NKptcf005105 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 22:51:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 22:51:55 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20100723225155.33668534.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100723192454.GB7343@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20100723202450.ea80c86f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100723210814.44ff8bd1.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100723192454.GB7343@dan.emsphone.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Text mode screen size max. compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:51:58 -0000 Chuck, Dan, Andrew, this is exactly what I was looking for. The manpages of resozeterm and the mentioning of KEY_RESIZE in getch()'s input queue gives a good solution to call a specific function when in any input loop. The needed information about the new screen dimensions can then easily be obtained, and screen features can be rearranged and re- painted. Ncurses really rocks. :-) Thank you! -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 21:00:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701351065672 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:00:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (m209-73.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.209.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2A58FC24 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:00:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6NKghFk021884; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:42:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o6NKghCq021883; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:42:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:42:43 -0700 From: David Wolfskill To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100723204243.GD17210@albert.catwhisker.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sgneBHv3152wZ8jf" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Setup for NIS master: make isn't seeing my sources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, David Wolfskill List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:00:50 -0000 --sgneBHv3152wZ8jf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [I'm not subscribed to -questions, so please include me in responses. I've provided a valid Reply-To as a hint to your MUA.] For the last 14 years or so, my NIS server on the home network has been a SPARCstation 5/170 running Solaris 2.6; I'm finally getting around to decommissioning it. Accordingly, I'm configuring a new(-ish) machine running FreeBSD 8.1-PRERELEASE r210217 (as of Sunday last) as a new NIS master. (I had earlier configured it as a slave, so /var/yp/`domainname` was already populated.) The NIS domain is (for historical reasons) "lmdhw.com". The default in /var/yp/Makefile is for YPSRCDIR to be set to /etc; as I prefer my NIS source files to be completely separate from the content of /etc on any machine I fcreated /var/yp/Makefile.local: albert# pwd =20 /var/yp albert# cat Makefile.local=20 # Local tweaks to NIS make process # $Id: Makefile.local,v 1.1 2010/07/23 18:51:37 root Exp $ # As long as we still have non-FreeSBD NIS clients on the local net... UNSECURE =3D "True" # Keep our NIS sources separate from any machine's /etc. # While we're doing that, might as well make provision in case we want to # work with more than one NIS domain at the same time. YPSRCDIR =3D $(YPDIR)/etc/$(DOMAIN) I then populated /var/yp/etc/lmdhw.com by unpacking a tarball of the sources from the SS5: albert# domainname lmdhw.com albert# ls -lTa etc/lmdhw.com/ total 38 drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 512 Jul 23 11:53:52 2010 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 23 11:44:37 2010 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 May 10 10:06:43 2010 RCS -rw-r--r-- 1 root kmem 50 Jan 12 20:09:53 1997 auto_home -rw-r--r-- 1 root kmem 94 Jan 12 20:10:08 1997 auto_master -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 0 Sep 14 11:53:16 1997 bootparams -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 0 Sep 14 11:53:16 1997 ethers -r--r--r-- 1 root daemon 428 Sep 2 18:19:02 2001 group -r--r--r-- 1 root daemon 273 Oct 25 15:33:32 2008 hosts -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 0 Sep 14 11:53:16 1997 netgroup -r--r--r-- 1 root daemon 592 Aug 26 21:53:00 1999 netmasks -r--r--r-- 1 root sys 372 Mar 4 21:46:19 1997 networks -r--r--r-- 1 root daemon 855 Nov 30 21:51:03 2009 passwd -rw-r--r-- 1 root daemon 892 May 3 19:11:13 1998 passwd.install -r--r--r-- 1 root sys 980 Apr 4 18:14:32 1998 protocols -r-xr-xr-x 1 bin kmem 622 Mar 4 22:04:36 1997 publickey -rw-r--r-- 1 root sys 1481 Mar 4 21:46:29 1997 rpc -r--r--r-- 1 root daemon 2380 Jul 19 18:48:02 1998 services -r-------- 1 root daemon 364 Oct 6 16:31:39 2006 shadow -rw-r--r-- 1 root daemon 416 May 3 19:11:28 1998 shadow.install -rw-r--r-- 1 root daemon 21 Apr 4 23:32:06 1998 timezone albert#=20 But when I run "make", I see whines about /var/yp/etc/`/bin/domainname`/hosts being non-existent and having no sources: albert# make -d lm Examining target...non-existent...non-existent and no sources...out-of-date. if [ ! -d `/bin/domainname` ]; then mkdir `/bin/domainname`; fi; cd `/bin/= domainname` ; echo "NIS Map update started on `date` for domain `/bin/domai= nname`" ; make -f ../Makefile all; echo "NIS Map update completed." NIS Map update started on Fri Jul 23 13:37:30 PDT 2010 for domain lmdhw.com Examining /var/yp/ypservers...modified 11:53:28 Jul 23, 2010...up-to-date. Examining ypservers...modified 11:53:55 Jul 23, 2010...up-to-date. Examining servers...non-existent...modified before source (ypservers)...out= -of-date. update time: 13:37:30 Jul 23, 2010 Examining /var/yp/etc/`/bin/domainname`/hosts...non-existent...non-existent= and no sources...out-of-date. make: don't know how to make /var/yp/etc/`/bin/domainname`/hosts. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /var/yp. albert#=20 I've run with additional debugging flags, but that seemed to merely add to the clutter without actually providing useful information, so I figured I'd skip subjecting y'all to that for now. So what silly thing am I overlooking here? Is something doing a chroot(2) behind the scenes? Thanks.... Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --sgneBHv3152wZ8jf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxJ/sIACgkQmprOCmdXAD2g4gCeNNa5sH1x9FG64ran7S7LHJmG A0oAni93hvUOEzPxbjLT/LxAurrllSLF =K8Sk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sgneBHv3152wZ8jf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 21:06:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186E61065673 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo.steve@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44B58FC14 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:06:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so4723831wwe.31 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:06:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=X58kTc4rtu+XmU1/mFBfVjNUGWlP6OPnkLHbiNrCNwo=; b=ANWhYDZoAyNx89EU/CyKukupD+KgJHgkbJLJaiJKSbDapj27rqnoVliQM4rhejpvES AO/SY4BhnjYuHCElfyvGS3H/wQyfAyPOPx73mI+nNDoWqsYUltaX4Rxabq8Mx+BS1tad t+WkcqM1qITDSbrNBm8XmdJujO9y7w+EZLxCs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XJqGqFlYZXtMSBzjLVoJBUdKy61zB9nYk2K7qrOMKZuWZ1UMM3UMKhLFcbgeuKIBqw sN7P+coag0hVuRR7qSvm96cQ4nVYpHGgLu7npPp0JOSxFOrW0cjMM2FDC/kD6xykELqb 68FxV8MBE9MQVn0pcW4l3qAimPvNZ0EmTuwME= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.30.207 with SMTP id k57mr4002310wea.88.1279917637080; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.80.91 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:40:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <178EAA50-D7FE-4355-91EC-3C1018465568@tamu.edu> References: <178EAA50-D7FE-4355-91EC-3C1018465568@tamu.edu> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:40:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: Steve Szabo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: monitor util in a scripted daemon? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:06:46 -0000 Tripwire? On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Neil Smith wrote: > - Is there a command (native, shell, or ports collection) to sit and watc= h for new file creation in a directory? > - I'd like to build a system startup script for such a command and its sc= ripted actions. Sound possible? > - Is there already something in the default OS that does something simila= r? > > > Thanks, > -Neil > --- > Neil Smith =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 neils@tamu.edu > Comp. Sys. 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If that's an issue, don't back it up. > That ports tree > directory is a large resource hog if you lift the blinders and look > at the big picture. > Just my 2 cents. Funnily enough that's not far off how much it cost to store it. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 00:51:13 -0000 hey y'all, there is a program called libots [or ots] that acts to summarize text that i'd like to port to freebsd. i grabbed the src from scourceforge days ago and found that i need a later version of popt than we have. we've got v 1.14 of popt and the configure script from libots says that 1.5 is required. i've stumbled around but haven't figured out where to grab the newer version. yes, i am imagining _war and peace_ or _the iliad_ run thru ots ... etc. i'm not sure how well ots does yet, but it would be great to have abbreviate/condensed/summarized versions of a lot of texts. tia for any help, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 02:29:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C64C106566B for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 02:29:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vic_sk@mail.ru) Received: from fallback4.mail.ru (fallback4.mail.ru [94.100.176.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB328FC13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 02:29:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from f138.mail.ru (f138.mail.ru [217.69.128.93]) by fallback4.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id 1A0822A42AAD for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 06:01:08 +0400 (MSD) Received: from mail by f138.mail.ru with local id 1OcU31-0002Iw-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 06:01:07 +0400 Received: from [96.55.166.64] by win.mail.ru with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 06:01:07 +0400 From: Victor Skovorodnikov To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 X-Originating-IP: [96.55.166.64] Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 06:01:07 +0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 03:53:03 +0000 Cc: Subject: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Victor Skovorodnikov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 02:29:11 -0000 Hi! This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. Why such a logo for BSD? What is the meaning of that logo? I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get deterred by its un-Christian logo. Have you considered changing it to something else? Doesn't have to be an angel, but perhaps something neutral ;-) ? Thanks, Victor. ñ × íÏÅÍ íÉÒÅ - http://my.mail.ru/mail/vic_sk/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 03:57:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D5D106566C for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 03:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ges+lists@wingfoot.org) Received: from wingfoot.org (caduceus.wingfoot.org [66.80.251.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702928FC12 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 03:57:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from caduceus.wingfoot.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D58C39DC22; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:57:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at wingfoot.org Received: from wingfoot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by caduceus.wingfoot.org (wingfoot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10042) with ESMTP id oqeavpYr6eSi; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:57:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Sandal.local (ool-4353640b.dyn.optonline.net [67.83.100.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3132939DC1E; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:57:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C4A64B9.208@wingfoot.org> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:57:45 -0400 From: Glenn Sieb User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Victor Skovorodnikov References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 03:57:54 -0000 On 7/23/10 10:01 PM, Victor Skovorodnikov wrote: > This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. Why such a logo for BSD? What is the > meaning of that logo? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_Daemon --Glenn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 04:17:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F3F106564A for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:17:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C0B8FC08 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:17:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so1092205iwn.13 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:17:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6zZ5wPLg9CB1hdIw9BTGAyrwAqOpCxm+yMfI7l2hk5Y=; b=gSo94BCzYnJqUegycuYuXDgnY9RoRYEJ6yzrHxoZPoG1Kiitdy9If0bSjXxcvhJYUx LVcsqjxsWshKyt6oEH9H+/3vufUJzqj6ksEQ/+XiswyBxXA2JFpnTJZOR6dDwu3FFOOn kCsvWaXNmFpug4z4iTasfW8BN2TOHCnbmEYyo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=S9uSMEXUdfOc6wHZ3z2m1RpTBgdNTA60bQ0yKC1ORs8hRxJHKMQEFDG0befss3xYme ByB61onI7Og+00GGtl/8PUTMQ47gEr0DoKxOBza/k+3u/6NSzf6u3VMsFc678tSZbuOs fa/gyCZOXXLLp2NWJJ6PRmDuPBkKwaCj2Kaz4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.39.137 with SMTP id g9mr4741794ibe.133.1279945021616; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.180.135 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:17:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 22:17:01 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Victor Skovorodnikov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:17:03 -0000 On 7/23/10, Victor Skovorodnikov wrote: > Hi! > > This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. Why such a logo > for BSD? What is the > meaning of that logo? > > I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get > deterred by its un-Christian > logo. > > Have you considered changing it to something else? Doesn't have to be an > angel, but perhaps > something neutral ;-) ? While everyone will have their own interpretation of what the logo is, it is not a demon. It's a daemon (servers are full of little daemons). Personally, I think of the freebsd (only) logo as an avatar, which means you can make FreeBSD act in any way you want it to. Server, Router, Fileserver, various daemons, desktop, embedded, clustering.. so many choices... And please don't generalize. the "BSD logo" is not the same for all the variants of BSD. OpenBSD is a blowfish, NetBSD is a flag, FreeBSD is an avatar, plus each offshoot of their own respective systems. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 06:26:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76114106566C for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 06:26:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 490928FC18 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 06:26:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 17287 invoked by uid 0); 24 Jul 2010 06:26:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 2010 06:26:35 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=hYwz5yU7hRxJuQlYx3jGQJtvxlFXfpndnFRtd+ODle/L0BU+yh6jom9qxrOngi/hplHTrUa0DBgXcQmQaKlNW8ekTWuN8H7sdRfYjjwPPPaGB02kyr/VfNovwNyknQPh; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcYBu-0000P3-0D for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 00:26:35 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 00:24:46 -0600 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 00:24:46 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rz+pwK2yUstbofK6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 06:26:36 -0000 --rz+pwK2yUstbofK6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Disclaimer: I do not represent the FreeBSD project in any way, shape, or form. I am certain any such people would be much nicer and more polite about this than me. I'm sure I would be much nicer and more polite about it if I became a representative of the FreeBSD project at some point in the future. Because I am not officially affiliated with the project at all, though, I feel free to be brutally honest. On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 06:01:07AM +0400, Victor Skovorodnikov wrote: >=20 > This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. Why such a > logo for BSD? What is the meaning of that logo? It's a reference to "daemons", a type of software that runs in the background "listening" for connections. The term "daemon" has ancient roots in Greek mythology and has nothing to do with more recent Christian notions of "demons". In short, mythological "daemons" are basically just supernatural beings of lower power and stature than the pantheon of Greek gods, and computer "daemons" are helpful programs. >=20 > I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get > deterred by its un-Christian logo. Good grief. Are you referring to the cartoon character? It's a cartoon character. It's not an attempt to lure your children to join Satan's armies. There's no reason to be "deterred" from giving FreeBSD a try just because of a friendly cartoon character. People who value their wool socks should not be deterred from using MS products because of the stupid moth mascot used by MSN, and those who dislike arctic climates shouldn't be deterred from using Linux-based systems because Linux uses a penguin as its mascot. By the same token, the notion that a red cartoon character with horns should deter a Christian from using FreeBSD is kind of silly. I was a member of a military unit known as the Red Devils years ago. I did not feel like I was being corrupted by Evil. Perhaps you would be deterred from being my friend because of this, nonetheless. If that is the case, though, I think I'm better off without you. While I normally prefer to take an inclusive approach to dealing with people who run into obstacles in their approach to thinking about OSes, there are cases where I simply feel the urge to throw my hands in the air and giving up on someone. Such cases are those where it seems likely that some kind of closed-minded idolatry (which is exactly what this is: taking a cartoony mascot as some kind of Manifest Presence of a supernatural, superhuman Force, Principle, or Being) is going on. Either you will get over it, or you will not, and it is only a very faint hope that pointing out the ludicrousness of your objection that compels me to respond at all. If you're talking about the weird sex toy thing that has become the new(er) official FreeBSD logo, however, it seems the FreeBSD project simply can't please some people. I'm pretty sure that was made so ambiguous and largely meaningless specifically because of fear of negative reactions from those who cannot imagine going through life without being offended -- and it still isn't working, if that's the reason for your complaint. It may be "un-Christian", but if so it's "un-Christian" like a penguin or a moth is "un-Christian", and not like a burning cross would be (and I'd call that "anti-Christian" instead, anyway). >=20 > Have you considered changing it to something else? Doesn't have to be > an angel, but perhaps something neutral ;-) ? I hope the logo doesn't change because of silly requests from those who cannot have religious beliefs without also being reasonable human beings. This whole thing reminds me of a conversation I had in the early '90s where someone told me that a Nine Inch Nails song called "God's Money" was blasphemous. Of course, there is no Nine Inch Nails song by that name, and the song the person was talking about ("Head Like A Hole") doesn't have the words "God's money" in it at all. The guy had misheard something and leaped to an erroneous conclusion without bothering to consider the possibility he was just a reactionary idiot. Someone's sure to call me intolerant or abrasive as a result of this email, but frankly, I don't care. Guilty as charged: I am not tolerant of intolerant, willfully ignorant fundamentalists, regardless of what fundamentalism infects them. It's not like you couldn't look up the answer to your question about the meaning of the cartoon mascot character on the Internet fairly easily anyway, assuaging your fears of eternal damnation by choosing the wrong OS. The desire to be outraged appears to be stronger than the desire to educate oneself. When this is the way someone starts a "discussion" about wanting to use a new OS, I tend to believe there is no genuine interest in using the OS in question. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --rz+pwK2yUstbofK6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxKhy4ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKW0cgCg63q/br7ESM+zW73LzAJND5UA RSEAn1JI10XjEXL9tj/B1hlBjp25m5RF =MCef -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rz+pwK2yUstbofK6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 07:05:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69356106564A for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:05:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430AE8FC0C for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22583 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2010 07:05:21 -0000 Received: from dsl081-163-112.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO ringbill.gull.us) ([64.81.163.112]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 24 Jul 2010 07:05:20 -0000 Received: from alphonse ([192.168.10.9] helo=alphonse.gull.us) by ringbill.gull.us with esmtpa (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OcYnN-000Cwp-UQ for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 00:05:18 -0700 Message-Id: From: David Brodbeck To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 00:05:14 -0700 References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:05:22 -0000 On Jul 23, 2010, at 11:24 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > It's a cartoon character. It's not an attempt to lure your children > to > join Satan's armies. There's no reason to be "deterred" from giving > FreeBSD a try just because of a friendly cartoon character. I'm reminded of when some Christian groups called for a boycott of Apple because they had an OS project code-named "Darwin." Some people will just go out of their way to look for reasons to take offense. I'm reminded that the SATAN network scanner project used to ship a utility with the source code that would patch it to rename it "SANTA". I suppose someone could fork a new BSD distribution with an angel for a logo, to mollify these sorts of people. Call it BlessedBSD (BleSseD?) or something. ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 07:37:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5721C1065672 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:37:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB6E8FC08 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-70-227.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.227]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o6O7b230060581; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:37:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <4C4A981D.8050504@bah.homeip.net> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:37:01 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: slrn/1.0.8 (FreeBSD) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Brodbeck References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:37:21 -0000 David Brodbeck said the following on 2010-07-24 09:05: > Call it BlessedBSD (BleSseD?) or > something. ;) BBsd? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 07:38:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384E71065674 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:38:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7BA8FC13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:38:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-70-227.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.227]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o6O7cPuX060587; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:38:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <4C4A9870.8050106@bah.homeip.net> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:38:24 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: slrn/1.0.8 (FreeBSD) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Victor Skovorodnikov References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:38:38 -0000 Victor Skovorodnikov said the following on 2010-07-24 04:01: > Hi! > > This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. Why such a logo for BSD? What is the > meaning of that logo? > > I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get deterred by its un-Christian > logo. Grow up your silly sod! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 08:22:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40CC1065679 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:22:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1838FC22 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:22:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6O8Lsx7046654 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:21:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C4AA29C.20109@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:21:48 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernt Hansson References: <4C4A9870.8050106@bah.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <4C4A9870.8050106@bah.homeip.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig87843E48320918BDE3DBFCDA" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Victor Skovorodnikov Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:22:07 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig87843E48320918BDE3DBFCDA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 24/07/2010 08:38:24, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Victor Skovorodnikov said the following on 2010-07-24 04:01: >> Hi! >> >> This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. Why such a >> logo for BSD? What is the >> meaning of that logo? >> >> I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get= >> deterred by its un-Christian >> logo. >=20 > Grow up your silly sod! No, no. I'm afraid the game is up, chaps. Such perspicacious observation! Such penetrating insight! How could we have dreamed that anyone would uncover our daemonic plot to make the world a better place through superior software by simply examining our logo? My friends, I fear that there is going to be a lot of holy water sprinkled in data centres over the coming months. There will be much weeping and wailing and a darkness shall spread over the face of the net; lightnings and thunders and unwholesome smokes shall assault those holy warriors attempting to drive out the daemonically possessed (Hint: turn off the power *before* applying the Holy Water.) Cheers, Matthew Disclaimer: Prophecy not valid where Enlightenment values have largely replaced the Medieval superstition, nor in those countries with a predominantly non-Abrahamic religious heritage. Terms and conditions may apply. The value of your investments may go down as well as up. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig87843E48320918BDE3DBFCDA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxKoqIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIztCACfeWTA9W5NdcrkBWbEH+2GzbJ0 aaoAnRUoInocH1U3r0vTF2sRntHh55ji =1cOD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig87843E48320918BDE3DBFCDA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 10:22:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55EF1065670 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:22:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (asmtp2.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658938FC12 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6OALqJv003772; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:21:52 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6OALp2W003768; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:21:52 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BADA533C1F; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:21:51 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:21:51 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20100724102151.GA60821@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Bernt Hansson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Victor Skovorodnikov References: <4C4A9870.8050106@bah.homeip.net> <4C4AA29C.20109@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C4AA29C.20109@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RC1 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: Victor Skovorodnikov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:22:05 -0000 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 09:21:48AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > On 24/07/2010 08:38:24, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > Victor Skovorodnikov said the following on 2010-07-24 04:01: > >> Hi! > >> > >> This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. Why such a > >> logo for BSD? What is the > >> meaning of that logo? > >> > >> I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get > >> deterred by its un-Christian > >> logo. > > > > Grow up your silly sod! > > No, no. I'm afraid the game is up, chaps. Such perspicacious > observation! Such penetrating insight! How could we have dreamed that > anyone would uncover our daemonic plot to make the world a better place > through superior software by simply examining our logo? > > My friends, I fear that there is going to be a lot of holy water > sprinkled in data centres over the coming months. There will be much > weeping and wailing and a darkness shall spread over the face of the > net; lightnings and thunders and unwholesome smokes shall assault those > holy warriors attempting to drive out the daemonically possessed (Hint: > turn off the power *before* applying the Holy Water.) You stick to your holy water, I'll stick to defenestrating virgins, sacrificing goats and chanting the Lord's prayer backwards whilst dancing naked in a pentagram. I find it's the only way to get FreeBSD to work....ok, I admit it, I just like doing it. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > Disclaimer: Prophecy not valid where Enlightenment values have largely > replaced the Medieval superstition, nor in those countries with a > predominantly non-Abrahamic religious heritage. Terms and conditions > may apply. The value of your investments may go down as well as up. > Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 10:46:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43371065674 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:46:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567718FC19 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:46:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so5933612fxm.13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 03:46:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6ZR54yCjHBm5by51xF3DLMmgVzkyZIlcYD040btI+8g=; b=e0yHiTjSZAOEqfKgA0iMPnWFpPOgYjNt6QormyiLNihk9QQitXdWY4stWYt07qFiuL mmNecsGjyDSj9oL69bf3tsepUw2deaawCRmI0KhvCVcb6MRXwoCv3AkUlXu13Ovmdl8z ATUgIg5d+WiFZQjljwawfRV4+074H9Q0EIqHQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bkfYlGhwW2wPSZjKDni8XoURcqiyxD0LE63DJI5amFtYwTuAT6v3oNKFXbRfonpKMW aiAgPQSls4OJ2Mpopkg6eE6NHzeTyj8Y3Y8VbQlaDA3tPUhi8I1rQTeAvEGD3Ml8+OUR wu8IHyiEvGIOiclhTvbCn9O/cND8KOFhRT1Hs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.136.18 with SMTP id f18mr416750hbf.51.1279968390855; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 03:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.160.201 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 03:46:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100724102151.GA60821@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <4C4A9870.8050106@bah.homeip.net> <4C4AA29C.20109@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100724102151.GA60821@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:46:30 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Frank Shute , Matthew Seaman , Bernt Hansson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Victor Skovorodnikov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:46:32 -0000 On 24 July 2010 11:21, Frank Shute wrote: > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 09:21:48AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > > On 24/07/2010 08:38:24, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > Victor Skovorodnikov said the following on 2010-07-24 04:01: > > >> Hi! > > >> > > >> This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. Why such a > > >> logo for BSD? What is the > > >> meaning of that logo? > > >> > > >> I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get > > >> deterred by its un-Christian > > >> logo. > > > > > > Grow up your silly sod! > > > > No, no. I'm afraid the game is up, chaps. Such perspicacious > > observation! Such penetrating insight! How could we have dreamed that > > anyone would uncover our daemonic plot to make the world a better place > > through superior software by simply examining our logo? > > > > My friends, I fear that there is going to be a lot of holy water > > sprinkled in data centres over the coming months. There will be much > > weeping and wailing and a darkness shall spread over the face of the > > net; lightnings and thunders and unwholesome smokes shall assault those > > holy warriors attempting to drive out the daemonically possessed (Hint: > > turn off the power *before* applying the Holy Water.) > > You stick to your holy water, I'll stick to defenestrating virgins, > sacrificing goats and chanting the Lord's prayer backwards whilst > dancing naked in a pentagram. > > I find it's the only way to get FreeBSD to work....ok, I admit it, I > just like doing it. > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Matthew > > > > Disclaimer: Prophecy not valid where Enlightenment values have largely > > replaced the Medieval superstition, nor in those countries with a > > predominantly non-Abrahamic religious heritage. Terms and conditions > > may apply. The value of your investments may go down as well as up. > > > > Regards, > > -- > > Frank > > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I think its important to point out that was are dealing with a faith and religion issue here. Therefore all logical reasoning goes out of the window, and trying to argue with a possible troll becomes futile, and does you a disservice. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 11:12:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACED1065676 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:12:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839888FC1B for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so1171144wyj.13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:12:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ImKtB2rSMnkuysWU9pzhonR7LyT0kVwNXInS30+LhVQ=; b=dst/7keDSB0fWv5bnFrAm1icPuVDxOqJbSlnQp4YVU8BvpH3BPTO09za1GxMdVpyaD NqdkgnMMR8fd3zlUoOIzECL8k+imFgKWAw9/pxkqcEGeeqgDxNRTYppd9ivmn8SVUaqz +u5V5vMNef9XBoAuPNvA3QA3OLgxWqtoIPGoY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=r0nq0GLNMkiErBnNGP4L9RsM4CW0ODjHXMo+Ur/dJe+cPIi+/eSAqaIBQowZmeVWQm BqVoj/BXP3gtOk95+mPWBbbmCFZyXyn6XmUZ5ufTHSCeC2i/VtLOZU9PZHQshZ9Z4nvP 5yawGgLu4aUsGjl2KbhupbBsh4PYtwg2FnhqE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.10.77 with SMTP id 55mr4820894weu.17.1279969966242; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.171.10 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:12:46 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:12:49 -0000 > >> I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get > >> deterred by its un-Christian > >> logo. It's amazing how exercised people get over a topic like this, like in that old story: http://www.milk.com/true-stories/unix_for_the_masses.html I think it's a pretty dumb logo myself, but a group of people that offer you free software, and even some help using it -- that doesn't seem benign to you? Why don't you talk to some of the other Christians involved in the project, like those that maintain bible study software in FreeBSD Ports? ... > The term "daemon" has ancient >roots in Greek mythology and has nothing to do with more recent Christian >notions of "demons". Well, "nothing to do with" is overstating the case a bit. There are some connections, even beyond the etymological, and not all Greeks thought alike about them. But we take your point. ... >I was a member of a military unit known as the Red Devils years ago. I >did not feel like I was being corrupted by Evil. Some people would find this a lot more problematic than wearing a daemon t-shirt. ;) Out of curiosity, Is that the one that got its ass kicked at Pearl Harbor and Wake Island, or the one that got its ass kicked at Arnhem? Or just a hardcore bunch of Man U. fans? ... >You stick to your holy water, I'll stick to defenestrating virgins, That seems like a waste of a perfectly good virgin. >sacrificing goats and chanting the Lord's prayer backwards whilst >dancing naked in a pentagram. >I find it's the only way to get FreeBSD to work.... I knew I was missing something. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 11:45:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBA21065672 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:45:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9ED8FC1B for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:45:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-179-206.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.179.206]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F301E422; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:45:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o6OBjlGM001805; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:45:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:45:47 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David Brodbeck Message-Id: <20100724134547.4ec51483.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:45:50 -0000 On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 00:05:14 -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: > I'm reminded of when some Christian groups called for a boycott of > Apple because they had an OS project code-named "Darwin." Some people > will just go out of their way to look for reasons to take offense. I'm reminded to a specific "Computer Stupidity", and please forgive me that I quote it here: Tech Support: "All right...now double-click on the File Manager icon." Customer: "That's why I hate this Windows -- because of the icons -- I'm a Protestant, and I don't believe in icons." Tech Support: "Well, that's just an industry term sir. I don't believe it was meant to --" Customer: "I don't care about any 'Industry Terms'. I don't believe in icons." Tech Support: "Well...why don't you click on the 'little picture' of a file cabinet...is 'little picture' ok?" Customer: [click] http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_icons.shtml Sorry. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 11:56:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A131065679 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:56:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532DB8FC17 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:56:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.205]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:39:13 -0700 Message-ID: <4C4AD0CB.10003@comclark.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:38:51 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jul 2010 11:39:13.0280 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6CD8000:01CB2B24] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Cc: Subject: 8.1 is available X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:56:12 -0000 Since the release team never makes a announcement on this list when a new RELEASE is published. I will let you all know that RELEASE 8.1 has been published and is available for download. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 12:01:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4400E1065673 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:01:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE1E8FC25 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:01:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so1195327wyj.13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 05:01:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=sznDe7+jnasfC1Akk0xfdYEDPaXLjoGXBUpQU2/pu6A=; b=pwtwmu4bBr3AKNtNFmhvVz65e2nIK+kEJW1kwmFkdWh3WR40rgKa+S1FFmKzTUH1xG nvMO9elw+MnxaO1nf3xcxCt03kv7lw5lplvopt3OERYfNIPzkKGEbrgB+YQSztmJxmlk u8V85Kv0GJ26btsaWFQXudGWRzAWfI0xKIT3c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=WnCBR830R8E3Lb0jJl6Omqx3upFLT+8vD8R6NblePCL0nsv+tVuJZ5rS33bJ6nXGkI W6/an7nOL/Vmk+bvbspMIls1fkv276AUYXS20fNw9sCMgKaF7YDjYtKgf2ZnlnW+QF52 /zj57JkHc1CWp1GdoFS2IyOMqYf0/f1VNWQIs= Received: by 10.216.231.230 with SMTP id l80mr4790175weq.53.1279972904159; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 05:01:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.235.200 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 05:01:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Paul B Mahol Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:01:24 +0000 Message-ID: To: Gautham Ganapathy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 64-bit Windows XP NDIS drivers giving missing symbols X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:01:46 -0000 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Gautham Ganapathy wrote: > Hi > > I have an Alienware m11x with a Dell 1520 wireless minicard (Broadcom > BCM4353 chipset). It comes with only Windows 7 drivers, but I was able to > download Windows XP drivers seperately. However, after I generate the kernel > module (I am using the 64-bit WinXP driver and freebsd amd64), I get errors > when I try to load it. It says that the following symbols are missing > > ZwQueryInformationFile > ZwCreateFile > ZwReadFile > IoUnregisterPlugPlayNotification > ExFreePoolWithTag > > According to MSDN, these were introduced in Windows 2000. > > Is there any way of getting this driver running ? Such symbols are completly irrelevant for normal operation, because NDISulator crash on amd64 during driver initialization. I fixed this in my own git repo, but "fpudna in kernel mode" (my understanding is that it is source of panic when trying to use ndis0 device on amd64), present only on amd64 is still not yet fixed - this should be addressed with fpu_kern KPI available on CURRENT - not done yet... Feel free to send patches. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 12:42:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0042F106566C for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:42:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CEB78FC1D for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwk3 with SMTP id 3so916246qwk.13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 05:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.60.211 with SMTP id q19mr4019303qah.89.1279975326612; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 05:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e32sm1545048qcg.10.2010.07.24.05.42.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 05:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D270DE54826 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:42:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:42:04 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100724084204.597b9e6f@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: 64-bit Windows XP NDIS drivers giving missing symbols X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:42:08 -0000 On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:01:24 +0000 Paul B Mahol articulated: > Such symbols are completly irrelevant for normal operation, because > NDISulator crash on amd64 during driver initialization. > I fixed this in my own git repo, but "fpudna in kernel mode" (my > understanding is that it is source of panic when trying to use ndis0 > device on amd64), present only on amd64 is still not yet fixed - this > should be addressed with fpu_kern KPI available on CURRENT - not done > yet... > Feel free to send patches. I feel his pain. I need 64 bit drivers for cards that FBSD does not support, mostly 'N' protocol wireless cards. The inability to secure and use perfectly good drivers that are available for Windows users in FreeBSD is a real PIA. Of course, it does give my Window user friends something to laugh about. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Do something unusual today. Pay a bill. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 14:08:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417EC106566B for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:08:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfl@robinlea.com) Received: from 28amen.org (28amen.org [204.3.153.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AD48FC14 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (118.174.67.189.static.totbb.net [118.174.67.189] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by 28amen.org (8.14.4/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o6ODfPXQ013471; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:41:30 GMT Message-ID: <4C4AED7F.2020100@robinlea.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:41:19 +0700 From: John Francis Lee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100528 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ricky G , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: 28amen.org : trying to portinstall ffmpeg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:08:09 -0000 Hello... I'm trying to sudo portinstall ffmpeg but I've run into problems with mpfr Stop in /ports/math/mpfr. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/binscript -qa /tmp/portinstall20100724-99593-ob933z-0 env make The freebsd server software at viaverio is old FreeBSD 28amen.org 6.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE #6: Wed Oct 21 09:32:42 MDT 2009 root@fc:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/VKERN i386 I really need to have ffmpeg available. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- "This message may have been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA and/or the present government of Thailand without notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or recipient." John Francis Lee 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 14:33:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6CA106566B for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:33:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B4F8FC15 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:33:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwk3 with SMTP id 3so964587qwk.13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:33:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.20.4 with SMTP id d4mr3915033qab.139.1279981997694; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.229.53.207 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:33:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:33:17 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: MYkJkrkUTjYA25QZ_0IA7MmWdfI Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Victor Skovorodnikov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:33:19 -0000 2010/7/23 Victor Skovorodnikov : > Hi! > > This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. =9AWhy such a lo= go for BSD? =9AWhat is the > meaning of that logo? > Strange in deed, it sounds. At first I really thought it was funny, but after consulting the infinite wisdom of my wife (actually I read it to her making fun of it), she immediately said "well if the logo was a priest I am sure it would make _you_ uncomfortable as well...". Which, of course, immediately wiped off the smile from my face, and suddenly the issue at hand was not so funny. > I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get de= terred by its un-Christian > logo. I am not a religious man myself, but if the logo had any religious meaning to me I am sure I could better understand Victor's issues. Seems silly, but if it was the other way around I'm sure _many_ people here would probably concur in the discomfort of using an OS who's logo was some sort of religion symbol, say a Christian Cross, Egyptian Ankh, David Star, Muslim Moon, or a Satanic Encircled Five Point Star. > > Have you considered changing it to something else? =9ADoesn't have to be = an angel, but perhaps > something neutral ;-) ? > My conclusion and advice to yo Victor is: FBSD's logo a cute cartoon character that can indeed be thought of representing a Daemon and I am sure that there was no bad (satanic) intention in the usage of the "little red devil". It's just a funny little character, but again it would make me really uncomfortable if it was a religious symbol of any kind, even if was a cartoon. Many would probably argue that a devil is in fact a religious symbol, so honestly I am left with doubt on the issue. Again, I am not religious except for the fact I am religious against _fanatical_ religion and/or any extremism of _any_ sort. In the end, I personally ___love___ the logo and I would ___never___ like to see it changed!!! Best, Alejandro Imass > Thanks, > Victor. > > > =F1 =D7 =ED=CF=C5=CD =ED=C9=D2=C5 - http://my.mail.ru/mail/vic_sk/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 15:06:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08538106566C for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:06:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from honeysuckle.london.02.net (honeysuckle.london.02.net [87.194.255.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51468FC13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:06:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eco.config (93.97.24.219) by honeysuckle.london.02.net (8.5.124.03) id 4C1F9BC20130948A; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:05:55 +0100 Message-ID: <4C4B0153.7040702@onetel.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:05:55 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091212) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aiza References: <4C4AD0CB.10003@comclark.com> In-Reply-To: <4C4AD0CB.10003@comclark.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: 8.1 is available X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:06:01 -0000 Aiza wrote: > Since the release team never makes a announcement on this list when a > new RELEASE is published. I will let you all know that > > RELEASE 8.1 has been published and is available for download. Has it been announced anywhere? Downloads have been available for some days. Generally advice from those who know is not to assume it's available until the announcement because changes could still be made. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 15:20:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93921065677 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:20:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel@nullroutes.com) Received: from mail.nullroutes.com (mail.nullroutes.com [87.98.254.193]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7C18FC20 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 66622 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2010 17:20:14 +0200 Received: from cpc1-sgyl3-0-0-cust445.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com (HELO ?192.168.0.101?) (daniel@nullroutes.com@80.192.21.190) by mail.nullroutes.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 2010 17:20:14 +0200 Message-ID: <4C4B04A7.3050603@nullroutes.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:20:07 +0100 From: Daniel Grant Organization: nullroutes.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C4AD0CB.10003@comclark.com> <4C4B0153.7040702@onetel.com> In-Reply-To: <4C4B0153.7040702@onetel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 8.1 is available X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:20:16 -0000 On 24/07/2010 16:05, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Aiza wrote: >> Since the release team never makes a announcement on this list when a >> new RELEASE is published. I will let you all know that >> >> RELEASE 8.1 has been published and is available for download. > > Has it been announced anywhere? Downloads have been available for some > days. Generally advice from those who know is not to assume it's > available until the announcement because changes could still be made. > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" It was anounced 16 hours ago on freebsd-announce@freebsd.org http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2010-July/001338.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 15:29:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19329106564A for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:29:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92348FC15 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:28:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eco.config (93.97.24.219) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.124.03) id 4C1F9803010FDAFA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:28:58 +0100 Message-ID: <4C4B06BA.2080107@onetel.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:28:58 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091212) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions References: <4C4AD0CB.10003@comclark.com> <4C4B0153.7040702@onetel.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 8.1 is available X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:29:00 -0000 Ansar Mohammed wrote: > I think it's been announced on the front page of freebsd.org > . You think I should wait for somthing more formal? You're right it's on the website but didn't come through in my RSS feed for some reason (which I set up to watch for the announcement :p). Chris > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Chris Whitehouse > wrote: > > Aiza wrote: > > Since the release team never makes a announcement on this list > when a new RELEASE is published. I will let you all know that > > RELEASE 8.1 has been published and is available for download. > > > Has it been announced anywhere? Downloads have been available for > some days. Generally advice from those who know is not to assume > it's available until the announcement because changes could still be > made. > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 15:37:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03875106566B for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:37:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ansarm@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE11E8FC20 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so1592196iwn.13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:37:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ljylV5cwwha6f2EXeq5QF8Yff/9lh4Xj1vCj7+jYo0M=; b=umUKjLGgQ2Tlo3GcuaUuBdVkHwLCdqWgTijyUhljOI6hsJVVikK7rO0KI0bwrzP/zb xn/i7E6DXNE1hT1mNpDVPMMSFJvWmWo0y/Y6Db1GtgnvJ1uiShBPuGvr5GPcgnhDHSZp XCaDb5KsVXoAV1BkUJU6qGObp4/GzAmTcq1WE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=CumU2p7QWntAlfwqtYtoqJ9VWLFVK/ALLCkYZE/CKvAtLvoyJRRpeeDqAoepw+wuf9 OR+KlKdpuXS1qXdKyC9qaWO98c9W1qo0HysHZVxxI5X2P82hdgVwPwatZWVAcTEg/x5R 4W/12ozqNBAzq5gpqioNUi5m2MSW08n940dFw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.40.6 with SMTP id i6mr5573335ibe.26.1279984379462; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:12:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.19.69 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:12:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C4B0153.7040702@onetel.com> References: <4C4AD0CB.10003@comclark.com> <4C4B0153.7040702@onetel.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:12:59 -0400 Message-ID: From: Ansar Mohammed To: Chris Whitehouse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Aiza , "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: 8.1 is available X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:37:20 -0000 I think it's been announced on the front page of freebsd.org. You think I should wait for somthing more formal? On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Aiza wrote: > >> Since the release team never makes a announcement on this list when a new >> RELEASE is published. I will let you all know that >> >> RELEASE 8.1 has been published and is available for download. >> > > Has it been announced anywhere? Downloads have been available for some > days. Generally advice from those who know is not to assume it's available > until the announcement because changes could still be made. > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 16:50:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5C1106566C for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:50:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nox@jelal.kn-bremen.de) Received: from smtp.kn-bremen.de (gelbbaer.kn-bremen.de [78.46.108.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7908FC18 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:50:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kn-bremen.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 9C93D1E006EF; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from triton8.kn-bremen.de (noident@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by triton8.kn-bremen.de (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6OGioee008873; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:44:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nox@triton8.kn-bremen.de) Received: (from nox@localhost) by triton8.kn-bremen.de (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o6OGin3I008872; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:44:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nox) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:44:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Juergen Lock Message-Id: <201007241644.o6OGin3I008872@triton8.kn-bremen.de> To: tajudd@gmail.com X-Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions In-Reply-To: References: <4C3DB83A.5030406@bah.homeip.net> Organization: home Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: Tv-card for freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:50:47 -0000 In article you write: >On 7/14/10, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> Hello list! >> >> I'm in the process of buying a tv-card for dvb-t transmissions. >> >> Any tips on cards that have a driver for freebsd? >> >> Thank you. > > >For a built-in tuner card itself, no recommendations. > >For an alternative solution, look at silicondust.com for the HDHomeRun >boxes. I've had one for a long time and it is a beautiful device. >Simply stated, a dual (or more) digital tuner to ethernet bridge. > >[...] Another option may be an usb tuner with webcamd on FreeBSD 8.1; webcamd is a pretty cool hack by the author of FreeBSD 8's new usb stack that essentially runs Linux usb v4l/dvb/atsc drivers on FreeBSD in userspace and is now in ports: http://www.freshports.org/multimedia/webcamd I've put together some (hopefully) useful info here: http://people.freebsd.org/~nox/dvb/ and there I'm also maintaining experimental ports for vdr which most Linux users I know prefer over mythtv which is already committed to ports. But `simpler' apps like mplayer, kaffeine, vlc, etc can of course also be used if you build the respective ports with the V4L knobs enabled in their `make config'. (and DVBPSI too in case of vlc.) HTH, Juergen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 16:52:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D66106566C for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:52:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kernel@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74788FC0C for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:52:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A5D5084C for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:19:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.71] (aegir.webrz.net [10.10.10.71]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364E05082F for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:19:44 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C4B12AC.1080405@webrz.net> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:19:56 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Subject: Automake installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:52:41 -0000 Just had a quick look in my installed ports and found out that I have multiple versions of automake installed: automake-1.10.1: ok automake-1.4.6_5: ok automake-1.5_5,1: ok automake-1.9.6_3: ok automake-wrapper-20071109: ok Is this common or should I get rid of all automake-1.9.x versions? How could I do such best? thanks Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 16:54:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2CD51065673 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:54:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B052B8FC23 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:54:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5765086B; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:28:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.71] (aegir.webrz.net [10.10.10.71]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D1F5082F; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:28:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C4B14D0.2050101@webrz.net> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:29:04 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Victor Skovorodnikov References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:54:20 -0000 Victor, On 24-7-2010 4:01, Victor Skovorodnikov wrote: > Have you considered changing it to something else? Doesn't have to be an angel, but perhaps something neutral ;-) ? > Seeing something in it that isn't there at all or perhaps wanting to see something that isn't there at all in fact is true religion. For me FreeBSD is true religion: bringing people together and speak about it is so much better that seeing things in a logo that isn't there at all... best regrets, jos chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 16:55:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A13E1065670 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:55:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from mailgate.jr-hosting.nl (unknown [IPv6:2a01:4f8:63:1281::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C798FC1D for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:55:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from websrv01.jr-hosting.nl (unknown [IPv6:2a01:4f8:63:1281::4]) by mailgate.jr-hosting.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F7C1CC26; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:15:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from a83-163-38-147.adsl.xs4all.nl ([83.163.38.147] helo=axantucar.elvandar.int) by websrv01.jr-hosting.nl with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OchO0-0003CS-It; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:15:40 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Remko Lodder In-Reply-To: <4C4AD0CB.10003@comclark.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:15:39 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4C4AD0CB.10003@comclark.com> To: Aiza X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: 8.1 is available X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:55:19 -0000 On Jul 24, 2010, at 1:38 PM, Aiza wrote: > Since the release team never makes a announcement on this list when a = new RELEASE is published. I will let you all know that >=20 > RELEASE 8.1 has been published and is available for download. >=20 Then there must be a reason that the announce@ mailinglist exists., now = I wonder what is periodically send there, to not overload the many other mailinglists? :-) Ofcourse thanks for bringing it to the attention, but do realise that = announce is the way to go for these kind of things.. Cheers Remko --=20 /"\ Best regards, | remko@FreeBSD.org \ / Remko Lodder | remko@EFnet X http://www.evilcoder.org/ | / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 16:56:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0F4106566C for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kernel@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2862E8FC20 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:55:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C203C5086F; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:29:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.71] (aegir.webrz.net [10.10.10.71]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F60A5082F; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:29:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C4B150B.5080609@webrz.net> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:30:03 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Victor Skovorodnikov References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:56:00 -0000 Victor, On 24-7-2010 4:01, Victor Skovorodnikov wrote: > Have you considered changing it to something else? Doesn't have to be an angel, but perhaps something neutral ;-) ? > Seeing something in it that isn't there at all or perhaps wanting to see something that isn't there at all in fact is true religion. For me FreeBSD is true religion: bringing people together and speak about it is so much better that seeing things in a logo that isn't there at all... best regrets, jos chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 16:56:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BDAF106566B for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:56:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52ED98FC20 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:56:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7072 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2010 16:49:53 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Jul 2010 16:49:52 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B9850829; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:49:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 58FA71CC77; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:49:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: petre@kgb.ro References: <1938630988-1279780950-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1345666249-@bda088.bisx.produk.on.blackberry> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:49:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1938630988-1279780950-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1345666249-@bda088.bisx.produk.on.blackberry> (Petre Bandac's message of "Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:42:29 +0000") Message-ID: <44mxtgx1sl.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port upgrade problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:56:35 -0000 "Petre Bandac" writes: > While upgrading port, I have the following problems: > - some cfg files are overwritten (authdaemon's authmysqlrc) I can't figure out what port that comes from, so I can't help. > - some make install options are not kept (maildrop - not compiled against mysql and courier imap - fam is compiled, even though initially was ruled out) Those aren't set up as OPTIONS, so they won't get stored in /var/db/ports. > The upgrade sequence is: > > # portsnap fetch update > # portmanager -u > > Am I doing something wrong? See "alternative configuration" in the portmanager manual. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 17:21:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE799106566B for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:21:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B810F8FC15 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8566 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2010 16:21:20 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Jul 2010 16:21:20 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C818450829; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:21:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id F3B081CCEE; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:21:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Gary Kline References: <20100724005105.GA22574@thought.org> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:21:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20100724005105.GA22574@thought.org> (Gary Kline's message of "Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:51:09 -0700") Message-ID: <44vd84x347.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: popt-1.50 or better?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:21:21 -0000 Gary Kline writes: > hey y'all, > > there is a program called libots [or ots] that acts to summarize text > that i'd like to port to freebsd. i grabbed the src from scourceforge > days ago and found that i need a later version of popt than we have. > we've got v 1.14 of popt and the configure script from libots says that > 1.5 is required. i've stumbled around but haven't figured out where to > grab the newer version. 1.14 is the latest version. 1.5 is considerably older. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 17:33:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1421065672 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA9F8FC16 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so1379711wyj.13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:33:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fN4bhDWMISfkzkKBCT0YaAp3fjEe13CdtEYYCNk1RRQ=; b=vG3K4m8sazQRkJH9HfqFaolJ2xiYTGX5gKtB3M10Srk+7jXYCd5xzD7wJU6v+znHPi ahu1NCDNOCyfE2GVb1zZ62sJbMPDqfdPO34ZW6Zt62ggDxD1eSO3dWj8vwl+hn1dYXGZ P7Z8TKAF1YRBNAsHnypGk/rf5yftyTTw9vbzA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Tfbcgl2FFg70bxAnuTniMtQ7uE2WKSnRHwVWQopSZb7tiEp7xd6HEHD3wMgujJPbKS zTEljvdHUSbei8RbJMOfY5n9646SXwDuQgmf3nPi/CiioBdFlghDsnR1oaL82dY2V3bl jP2C4ZIvzbIiSowMF8zRBjkhnnq37tsxwsvCw= Received: by 10.227.156.202 with SMTP id y10mr5133840wbw.48.1279992438487; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g37sm1322106wbg.9.2010.07.24.10.27.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:27:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:27:04 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100724182704.7cfe0f80@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4C4B12AC.1080405@webrz.net> References: <4C4B12AC.1080405@webrz.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Automake installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:33:36 -0000 On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:19:56 +0200 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Just had a quick look in my installed ports and found out that I have > multiple versions of automake installed: > ... > Is this common yes, it's normal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 17:33:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F4C1065742 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:33:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from zhhdzmsp-nwas18.bluewin.ch (nwas18.bluewin.ch [195.186.228.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972438FC1B for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:33:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [81.62.233.66] ([81.62.233.66:64107] helo=saturn.pcs.ms) by zhhdzmsp-nwas18.bluewin.ch (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.45 r()) with ESMTP id 1F/FC-14995-AE32B4C4; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:33:54 +0000 Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6OHMRoA001680 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:22:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o6OHMR8k001679; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:22:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:22:27 +0200 From: Martin Schweizer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100724172226.GB1346@saturn.pcs.ms> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Cannot from Opera X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:33:55 -0000 Hello My system: FreeBSD 8.1 AMD64, KDE 4.4.5, cups-base-1.4.3 I can print from Firefox, OpenOffice and all KDE applications over cups but not from Opera: - opera-10.10.20091120_2 - opera-linuxplugins-10.10.20091120_2 I also checked http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/481/ but with no luck (and tried a view other things). If I print from the file menu nothing occurs. Any ideas? -- Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 17:34:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87D41065700 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:34:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 849372@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC428FC23 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so1557127vws.13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:34:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=kKnVjF2MIG2Aq+NyDUUHJyH2ZT/ofR7d8dbqMqYVGy4=; b=yIGXU+vp/QxgLFhB3Pvt6EH6QoU1BFCcVHyGPJwlq22P9eIIgEINfmKXe8kEgIoEJa iQyefeO21YWn+5LyLqhtQa92KFJGEPOB1FmkR1KAXGg+zJJqF5rjdew2OZx4PkT+8VZf QPAQErMAzrSXv4dXRLF0Zi69aBDjt7f6UCX0g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=FvkAO4M8QtlHPHDNrFkbXHjbl+wn22Ce5o5kqqZNkL78v9ktUGP9YheQTXPp4djl13 0q4PgbgDmtL8VuZQ5jG84VcNpZcleyZY2Y/D75Z/iRvd4qKjPtYnxTi5HWvQxxb3aK6M fCmBPuWAELlnOE/xsANZNsBkcgEjqUeRw8QvY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.157.140 with SMTP id b12mr2805494vcx.156.1279991483553; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Sender: 849372@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.190.200 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:11:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C4B12AC.1080405@webrz.net> References: <4C4B12AC.1080405@webrz.net> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:41:23 -0430 X-Google-Sender-Auth: jaMD0qZVyq4NP-8uj6X_FfFLvno Message-ID: From: Andres Perera To: Jos Chrispijn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Automake installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:34:28 -0000 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Is this common or should I get rid of all automake-1.9.x versions? How could > I do such best? There are numerous tools for doing this; e.g., pkg_cutleaves and pkg_rmleaves. This is common because not all ports build with a given automake version, so the wrapper takes care of selecting the appropiate version. I would say that it's a waste of time to uninstall these since they take next to no space, and reinstalling them everytime you build something seems like a bigger waste in the long run. Andres From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 17:37:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B151065674 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:37:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690388FC17 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:37:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so5338318wwe.31 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:37:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=rvDpPYMb7kteQlFFyTrepiV2A0i8o42CQ+sWYBWb/T8=; b=kx5Bvghk9P8IybKAz05uoFCD0updgdC5EgmCC9i/cT2rpZ9yXaD2JoWWlK4t2ScRR5 r8Rn58FGnLRoVpdVJUK1iUnzBdX8/upYhnxCBX6R+mriGYD4Bdq75PaeYC+fHTl7CgaD BpsZAiIx31fpwj/HgcIBT6MYI0Gce26UgOjvQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=BCd2hFD87/AyrDcSE4vpK3h+nWB5PX+fdNKT+3M/PxYE73e2fpSnROsaIH2EpbyFqw coQhZB8X0cmLkQwSrRrRxuMYHX4FUFQapmEX1OFHNf9wC4+x+Fliemv6YdaSO7R65Jc2 5IQHp9oJMg8p32NaKdy8moNdDj5lRkLXRXF54= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.28.155 with SMTP id m27mr5106476wbc.66.1279993067061; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.17.71 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:37:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:37:46 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: why do I require "WPA" in rc.conf even for open networks. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:37:49 -0000 On 22 July 2010 22:03, Eitan Adler wrote: > For some reason I can not connect to *any* wireless network regardless > of the connection type unless I have "WPA" in /etc/rc.conf right > before "DHCP". Why would I require this to connect to open networks? > > -- > Eitan Adler > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I use WPA and have no urge to run tests for someone else on this right now, but are you sure something like ifconfig_wlan0="ssid ForteanJungle wepmode mixed wepkey 8675309 DHCP" doesn't work at all these days? -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 17:38:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25AC11065672 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:38:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6EA8FC08 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OciTu-0002A3-CQ for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:25:51 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:38:03 -0700 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:38:03 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20100724173803.GD50085@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C+ts3FVlLX8+P6JN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Cc: Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:38:09 -0000 --C+ts3FVlLX8+P6JN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Chad Perrin on Saturday, 24 July 2010: > Disclaimer: >=20 > I do not represent the FreeBSD project in any way, shape, or form. I am > certain any such people would be much nicer and more polite about this > than me. I'm sure I would be much nicer and more polite about it if I > became a representative of the FreeBSD project at some point in the > future. Because I am not officially affiliated with the project at all, > though, I feel free to be brutally honest. >=20 >=20 > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 06:01:07AM +0400, Victor Skovorodnikov wrote: > >=20 > > This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. Why such a > > logo for BSD? What is the meaning of that logo? >=20 > It's a reference to "daemons", a type of software that runs in the > background "listening" for connections. The term "daemon" has ancient > roots in Greek mythology and has nothing to do with more recent Christian > notions of "demons". In short, mythological "daemons" are basically just > supernatural beings of lower power and stature than the pantheon of Greek > gods, and computer "daemons" are helpful programs. >=20 >=20 > >=20 > > I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get > > deterred by its un-Christian logo. >=20 > Good grief. Are you referring to the cartoon character? >=20 > It's a cartoon character. It's not an attempt to lure your children to > join Satan's armies. There's no reason to be "deterred" from giving > FreeBSD a try just because of a friendly cartoon character. >=20 > People who value their wool socks should not be deterred from using MS > products because of the stupid moth mascot used by MSN, and those who > dislike arctic climates shouldn't be deterred from using Linux-based > systems because Linux uses a penguin as its mascot. By the same token, > the notion that a red cartoon character with horns should deter a > Christian from using FreeBSD is kind of silly. >=20 > I was a member of a military unit known as the Red Devils years ago. I > did not feel like I was being corrupted by Evil. Perhaps you would be > deterred from being my friend because of this, nonetheless. If that is > the case, though, I think I'm better off without you. >=20 > While I normally prefer to take an inclusive approach to dealing with > people who run into obstacles in their approach to thinking about OSes, > there are cases where I simply feel the urge to throw my hands in the air > and giving up on someone. Such cases are those where it seems likely > that some kind of closed-minded idolatry (which is exactly what this is: > taking a cartoony mascot as some kind of Manifest Presence of a > supernatural, superhuman Force, Principle, or Being) is going on. Either > you will get over it, or you will not, and it is only a very faint hope > that pointing out the ludicrousness of your objection that compels me to > respond at all. >=20 > If you're talking about the weird sex toy thing that has become the > new(er) official FreeBSD logo, however, it seems the FreeBSD project > simply can't please some people. I'm pretty sure that was made so > ambiguous and largely meaningless specifically because of fear of > negative reactions from those who cannot imagine going through life > without being offended -- and it still isn't working, if that's the > reason for your complaint. >=20 > It may be "un-Christian", but if so it's "un-Christian" like a penguin or > a moth is "un-Christian", and not like a burning cross would be (and I'd > call that "anti-Christian" instead, anyway). >=20 >=20 > >=20 > > Have you considered changing it to something else? Doesn't have to be > > an angel, but perhaps something neutral ;-) ? >=20 > I hope the logo doesn't change because of silly requests from those who > cannot have religious beliefs without also being reasonable human beings. >=20 > This whole thing reminds me of a conversation I had in the early '90s > where someone told me that a Nine Inch Nails song called "God's Money" > was blasphemous. Of course, there is no Nine Inch Nails song by that > name, and the song the person was talking about ("Head Like A Hole") > doesn't have the words "God's money" in it at all. The guy had misheard > something and leaped to an erroneous conclusion without bothering to > consider the possibility he was just a reactionary idiot. >=20 > Someone's sure to call me intolerant or abrasive as a result of this > email, but frankly, I don't care. Guilty as charged: I am not tolerant > of intolerant, willfully ignorant fundamentalists, regardless of what > fundamentalism infects them. >=20 > It's not like you couldn't look up the answer to your question about the > meaning of the cartoon mascot character on the Internet fairly easily > anyway, assuaging your fears of eternal damnation by choosing the wrong > OS. The desire to be outraged appears to be stronger than the desire to > educate oneself. >=20 > When this is the way someone starts a "discussion" about wanting to use a > new OS, I tend to believe there is no genuine interest in using the OS in > question. >=20 > --=20 > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] "abrasive" -- maybe. But this was a most enjoyable read. I don't suppose our Christian friend opposes hot cross buns or Christmas trees. Then again, some Christians do. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --C+ts3FVlLX8+P6JN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMSyT7AAoJEIpckszW26+R9SMH/1UHAv+fpoXuS1VALiQNpiUr BU/jrJJvL7pkip7xM3NbltunpRvsqepWt6dtj++5w+xJjdN/ozq5W7Xqp3lU8wAz tjyPs5EJ/1EcoSZptXmtiYFCiahJm3ET1dQHgPfn2avw0YOvXP1zpv1xHXVRcm2l rCp6IqWXn5FMSM7OISdwx2vUyrNSl0922OIaieW/Eq2NKgNB9NGTqK5jEIqKpdj9 29e/JKpB8E47RZkfnS1gWTFO2ihbQ63vfT1EmrOTTnULG0HOWk9yuPyIL+DVcp3D 88vbfGHHxBJ7u1QO63YukwHWOVeyvTEtV6w1MRWzxC2b2VDHXxD2OsTBWx3zApQ= =w+tE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C+ts3FVlLX8+P6JN-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 17:43:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ACC210656B4 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:43:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B438FC14 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:43:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so1385153wyj.13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:43:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=AEiSmE4dMythh9lu9wVD/8bbdYpBGgP9B78ty1t0Jz4=; b=lyH142tt/fCQLROoLHoyeT3hdBDkTFDZ25h9ANgFE4BFd6cADVJ/yW6BYy5lZ38HB3 RZb9LFyKVvx2fd3wiAW4sDHgW4+l6EEzbqRdZnJn914qT4iQuRjUYAt0ErEv/VRUd6lM j15q1eDIt+LMxgF0Ee3NiRgCLxEo+7ZvfzSec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=T8Rho1rbWcV1D+67IUrRZWymhr0flIAopNH8RUvWBbXdaryPvCcJXpFWj3u4e4iQKk VGj+RmAuMTQq+tIcL3PKPG9bfSnXOlxEFQwLpgwXvjWOonGWLnotCO/XaWP8J5hMVpk4 yP5f3toPQrMT2WKeqk8ajt9A+h3ohZCJwDHiY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.142.208 with SMTP id r16mr5080561wbu.140.1279993408534; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.17.71 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:43:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C4B12AC.1080405@webrz.net> References: <4C4B12AC.1080405@webrz.net> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:43:28 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Jos Chrispijn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Automake installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:43:33 -0000 On 24 July 2010 12:19, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Just had a quick look in my installed ports and found out that I have > multiple versions of automake installed: > > automake-1.10.1: ok > automake-1.4.6_5: ok > automake-1.5_5,1: ok > automake-1.9.6_3: ok > automake-wrapper-20071109: ok > > Is this common or should I get rid of all automake-1.9.x versions? How could > I do such best? Would not worry about it. On about any machine faster than a pII they take very little time to build, so it wouldn't matter the other way either. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 17:46:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8420E1065670 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:46:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546DE8FC16 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ocic8-0003S5-ST for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:34:22 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:46:34 -0700 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:46:34 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100724174634.GE50085@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xJK8B5Wah2CMJs8h" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Cc: Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:46:39 -0000 --xJK8B5Wah2CMJs8h Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth David Brodbeck on Saturday, 24 July 2010: > On Jul 23, 2010, at 11:24 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > >It's a cartoon character. It's not an attempt to lure your children =20 > >to > >join Satan's armies. There's no reason to be "deterred" from giving > >FreeBSD a try just because of a friendly cartoon character. >=20 > I'm reminded of when some Christian groups called for a boycott of =20 > Apple because they had an OS project code-named "Darwin." Some people = =20 > will just go out of their way to look for reasons to take offense. >=20 > I'm reminded that the SATAN network scanner project used to ship a =20 > utility with the source code that would patch it to rename it =20 > "SANTA". I suppose someone could fork a new BSD distribution with an =20 > angel for a logo, to mollify these sorts of people. Call it =20 > BlessedBSD (BleSseD?) or something. ;) >=20 That would probably make a lot of Christian BSD users happy. Personally, I like the devilish association, however indirect it may be. FreeBSD is somewhat counter-cultural and anti-authoritarian, after all. The whole notion of the Christian heaven seems remarkably close to Microsoft's vision of software: everyone will exist together in this eternal utopian sameness, and they'll like it. Give me my daemons, my lake of fire, and some people who aren't too good to know what they want and don't want-- we'll have a party. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --xJK8B5Wah2CMJs8h Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMSyb6AAoJEIpckszW26+R5osIAMN3RP28uWSWZ2a/vfsE/21j 5FMMiZYoHT+etzoKXPNVC7oqV94YUyebl0jak3DTVRD7fSTSGotA8MbTeLhcQQFr RvLp75hL+y+bSMp2tYWRqbjQ6NPN342pBLlxk4eE3oaRP2/4Zw0sf2GJVoMYEeTO NwSMheiaGcnW5rscXOGDK42gGSJBU0F2udhmJUrmjhVfW6qS2NEfBQabbOEcBz0e H8mdMuYGFaec7Z0D5I+CQbSqIemRbwrqucqq0OFzFl+i7g1gNL+O6mehwzN4DwSo s8a59C8u5Myr5WbGeX1bfZ2K25a/ENX653zAMM6FCpuibHcMnOiDPpunH6j9EiM= =Ti35 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xJK8B5Wah2CMJs8h-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 17:47:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4764B1065680 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:47:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 849372@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061178FC18 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:47:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwk3 with SMTP id 3so1053906qwk.13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:47:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=tyB2s+ViVkkCm1n6T7Qi8FyEpe/kerdHgT5jeR+UeEQ=; b=k0GI+wi1zMn+DyD+VJYAS9bSdwI44fnGGj+hQBzNfIFO3yioYDtVBDf2v5oeysBjrp gheduqNAr05ryTHYgwaAnwN4KIEFXchEQBwle/mdDBM84gmvOPPuZngXeybVrZynD4a3 7U+Q6piNm6Hw+UPXhmQHzx1OkC50iUK3XF+1A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=H8OyGQ7aP0YoMcdih7VOVL8/dlgzzxwjU2pm8HGBEpkqSG6JtoUFwTQiik/U+3GFDO 6DPP5XuhrAddhHJckVUV/EpN1gSQpNuT75rR3FsKs88f7y64Df2i6dohoHzYyziFRl5u jwa3w5y8L8WblNlhWvbJDOJlKySF9DNDIfaxw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.169.131 with SMTP id z3mr4185491vcy.1.1279987958337; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Sender: 849372@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.190.200 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:12:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:42:37 -0430 X-Google-Sender-Auth: N42dKRomPIW8dh_5Ay3bDR2BX84 Message-ID: From: Andres Perera To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:47:46 -0000 2010/7/24 Alejandro Imass : > FBSD's logo a cute cartoon character that can indeed be thought of > representing a Daemon and I am sure that there was no bad (satanic) > intention in the usage of the "little red devil". It's just a funny > little character, but again it would make me really uncomfortable if > it was a religious symbol of any kind, even if was a cartoon. Many > would probably argue that a devil is in fact a religious symbol, so > honestly I am left with doubt on the issue. Again, I am not religious > except for the fact I am religious against _fanatical_ religion and/or > any extremism of _any_ sort. > > In the end, I personally ___love___ the logo and I would ___never___ > like to see it changed!!! > Interesting, because judging from the latest logo overhaul it seems that the team is moving away from their former image at a fast pace, whether it be because of the cartoony appearance or religious undertones. Andres From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 17:50:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2AC106564A for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:50:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C18D8FC13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:50:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ocifs-0003nh-3G; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:38:13 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:50:25 -0700 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:50:25 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100724175025.GG50085@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Matthew Seaman , Bernt Hansson , Victor Skovorodnikov References: <4C4A9870.8050106@bah.homeip.net> <4C4AA29C.20109@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100724102151.GA60821@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0qt3EE9wi45a2ZFX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100724102151.GA60821@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Cc: Victor Skovorodnikov , Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:50:31 -0000 --0qt3EE9wi45a2ZFX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Frank Shute on Saturday, 24 July 2010: > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 09:21:48AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > > On 24/07/2010 08:38:24, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > Victor Skovorodnikov said the following on 2010-07-24 04:01: > > >> Hi! > > >> > > >> This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. Why such a > > >> logo for BSD? What is the > > >> meaning of that logo? > > >> > > >> I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I g= et > > >> deterred by its un-Christian > > >> logo. > > >=20 > > > Grow up your silly sod! > >=20 > > No, no. I'm afraid the game is up, chaps. Such perspicacious > > observation! Such penetrating insight! How could we have dreamed that > > anyone would uncover our daemonic plot to make the world a better place > > through superior software by simply examining our logo? > >=20 > > My friends, I fear that there is going to be a lot of holy water > > sprinkled in data centres over the coming months. There will be much > > weeping and wailing and a darkness shall spread over the face of the > > net; lightnings and thunders and unwholesome smokes shall assault those > > holy warriors attempting to drive out the daemonically possessed (Hint: > > turn off the power *before* applying the Holy Water.) >=20 > You stick to your holy water, I'll stick to defenestrating virgins, > sacrificing goats and chanting the Lord's prayer backwards whilst > dancing naked in a pentagram.=20 >=20 s/enestrat/lower/ --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --0qt3EE9wi45a2ZFX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMSyfhAAoJEIpckszW26+RyMEH/RKJPBXCKvSnyB2WkwPemaM+ Em1FL7QlRj+UvcKD8k4qLXnqMIDjSR0FSWoHauhuiFJ+EfWNFc6NCwkJUqyy5E0+ m0RXid7/6zCU7PPoFM/t1lZxmTxdSg6GxjGSuY29vqim2HjHmQhpxwbREz+/MaW7 zdOW/4uutwMV6S0SNAapGCLEz4ob+5tVHIl7sHOrZihelhuLd/wOWW3W5VcVHmKP gKvseNRFAGxqu1pyV1F2frXkNdWqVG4lp3zZev4jywFyzSFzex3e7lI9ubZi4Vcb fShUfxOB7YlCB+JjZtY1ZooOXUDWyyw/Pez94M67GRY9SDBLwYcbCdWYMjF00ls= =sAoM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0qt3EE9wi45a2ZFX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 18:45:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168A71065673 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:45:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A208FC0C for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:45:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so1417522wyj.13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:45:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vcj36dIJ/ciMdwWZQCymDhUw/7+mfMjqeX0UNJiFD74=; b=C5cXZMVq3PF41mBpiJMBvc8tWcQQnhNZBogoAxsXPxZ6m1WeOg1y/810AuQN5lLfNW E+KklnkP2bWeUgmqIz9ZwPtYnyD8+zxPLB24kxYwVWR5u6+l56fi7yKb5ioxTp2TkDux OxosCk1Y1c1tyLwchbkq7n0UzQ7h+dpIXH4N4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WYO3J1Z6ndJfDlx9YOAKyQgk95XFIrYCzRTo9CH6nMT9sH8Bq2LAgSnsLy7PMZvtEd HZv73qSXtAT9ovmKVMjFGwU6KFBnAbsUtvWFTaIpdEZhB9qYPbtNt54omFIiufSwaqgU AMrWYF1yHg1jFI+odUhPml2WfWtkOUITkZpH8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.138.77 with SMTP id z13mr1570506wbt.24.1279997124470; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.235.200 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:45:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100724084204.597b9e6f@scorpio> References: <20100724084204.597b9e6f@scorpio> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:45:24 +0000 Message-ID: From: Paul B Mahol To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: 64-bit Windows XP NDIS drivers giving missing symbols X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:45:26 -0000 On 7/24/10, Jerry wrote: > On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:01:24 +0000 > Paul B Mahol articulated: > >> Such symbols are completly irrelevant for normal operation, because >> NDISulator crash on amd64 during driver initialization. >> I fixed this in my own git repo, but "fpudna in kernel mode" (my >> understanding is that it is source of panic when trying to use ndis0 >> device on amd64), present only on amd64 is still not yet fixed - this >> should be addressed with fpu_kern KPI available on CURRENT - not done >> yet... >> Feel free to send patches. > > I feel his pain. I need 64 bit drivers for cards that FBSD does not > support, mostly 'N' protocol wireless cards. The inability to secure > and use perfectly good drivers that are available for Windows users in > FreeBSD is a real PIA. Of course, it does give my Window user friends > something to laugh about. And bwn(4) doesn't work at all? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 18:59:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EFDD106566B for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:59:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576128FC16 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:59:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o6OIxPdU069631; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:59:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o6OIxPVI069630; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:59:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:59:25 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Victor Skovorodnikov Message-ID: <20100724185925.GA69480@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:59:46 -0000 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 06:01:07AM +0400, Victor Skovorodnikov wrote: > Hi! > > This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. Why such a > logo for BSD? What is the > meaning of that logo? Do you really mean the logo kind of a round ball with points? Or do you mean the mascott - the little guy with sneakers and a trident? Probably the latter. It has little to do with religion. It has to do with the UNIX concept of helper programs what hang around in the OS and take care of tasks. Some of these are sshd that answers remote ssh requests or lpd that handles printer requests. There are lots of them. UNIX most basic concept really is that each utility or program has a specific task and does it when needed and then goes on to wait for the next one. In general, the OS is mostly made up of a bunch of these utilities just waiting to go to work, plus a kind of management program that is the kernel. In ancient lore there was a bunch friendly characters who hung around out of sight and waited for a being - human being mostly - to need help. One of those creatures would slip in and somewhat mysteriously do little things to help - not necessarily fix the whole problem, but place something in the human's way that can help them solve the problem. These merry creatures were called daemons - pronounced day-mohn. I guess they are sort of like friendly sprites of elves. As with any myth, the myth of daemons points to some truth beyond the mere physical aspect of the stories and images. In this case, somehow in life, ideas and successes come that we cannot completely explain by what we knew before. This is playfully represented by helpful daemons taking care of things behind the scene. Some people amused themselves by coming up with images that graphically represented the UNIX concept of an OS. Kirk McKusick, one of the early and continuing,BSD developers, came up with a sketch of a little creature that lightly dashed around (thus the sneakers) and used its special tools (represented by the trident) to make the good things of the OS happen - with almost all of the work being done behind the scenes. I don't know how the pointy tail got added. Maybe it just filled out the caricature. > > I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get > deterred by its un-Christian logo. Again, it is not religious. People who get weighed down by that thought are usually not well informed about either ancient history or early Christian imagery. Actually I have used the FreeBSD mascot image in church, where I am very active. The uses have been mostly in stuff from the office that had the Powered by FreeBSD tag. No one even noticed. > > Have you considered changing it to something else? Doesn't have to be > an angel, but perhaps > something neutral ;-) ? This has come up on this list a hundred times. Far better to educate those who are poorly informed than to roll over to prejudice and misinformation. ////jerry > > Thanks, > Victor. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 19:19:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573881065672 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:19:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3B88FC0C for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:19:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o6OJIvFR069706; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:18:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o6OJIvF5069705; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:18:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:18:57 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Aiza Message-ID: <20100724191857.GB69480@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4C4AD0CB.10003@comclark.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C4AD0CB.10003@comclark.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: 8.1 is available X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:19:21 -0000 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 07:38:51PM +0800, Aiza wrote: > Since the release team never makes a announcement on this list when a > new RELEASE is published. I will let you all know that > > RELEASE 8.1 has been published and is available for download. Funny, I received an official announcement fromthe RELEASE team. Maybe you are just not properly subscribed to the FreeBSD-Announce list. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 19:46:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D221065674 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF558FC19 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:46:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwk3 with SMTP id 3so1100863qwk.13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.65.197 with SMTP id k5mr4259171qai.52.1280000807140; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h20sm1918176qcm.33.2010.07.24.12.46.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 304B2E54826 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:46:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:46:44 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100724154644.75b1938b@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <20100724084204.597b9e6f@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: 64-bit Windows XP NDIS drivers giving missing symbols X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:46:48 -0000 On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:45:24 +0000 Paul B Mahol articulated: > On 7/24/10, Jerry wrote: > > On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:01:24 +0000 > > Paul B Mahol articulated: > > > >> Such symbols are completly irrelevant for normal operation, because > >> NDISulator crash on amd64 during driver initialization. > >> I fixed this in my own git repo, but "fpudna in kernel mode" (my > >> understanding is that it is source of panic when trying to use ndis0 > >> device on amd64), present only on amd64 is still not yet fixed - this > >> should be addressed with fpu_kern KPI available on CURRENT - not done > >> yet... > >> Feel free to send patches. > > > > I feel his pain. I need 64 bit drivers for cards that FBSD does not > > support, mostly 'N' protocol wireless cards. The inability to secure > > and use perfectly good drivers that are available for Windows users in > > FreeBSD is a real PIA. Of course, it does give my Window user friends > > something to laugh about. > > And bwn(4) doesn't work at all? bwn -- Broadcom BCM43xx IEEE 802.11b/g wireless network driver You will notice that there is no 'n' in the description. In any case, it is limited to 'broadcom' chips. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 19:51:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5F4106564A for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:51:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735948FC1A for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:51:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so5404935wwe.31 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:51:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=exeYBYMjQXQkoqdGDEwleNYA/uc5lzjjJYRONuY+VoY=; b=p5sEWL+jZ21lUPFIIB0k2Kt1jfmzReoYaarcWdGcamuFEGivWBesXo3P0NRVmuJil/ R7PTOQzbAIcYPHOMiz33KajeT+GM2JxzSy8aSY+5jq2igxBdyACUMLuwsVxtf2vFCSt4 cY35hNjGv+W4IW4wLEenbSH5gmejxDn+v8LC0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=fOq7y7qGgZXvhZK9gx1/VxQuJb7un8jatAN1jCmcjtaXLQEMHLmtIzA3NC9bziCmip 0UA1JSLDu5YqJWp/UtemLQKisU828XPazdv/RpHegwYl9I1M7IIME52eVZiPRicEkcL1 8i2XvlddPK1lfymc5kNKPbMbKj3PHhsyRmLcU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.173.2 with SMTP id u2mr5093144wel.56.1280001115064; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.165.140 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:51:55 +0000 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: TexLive on FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:51:56 -0000 Dear folks, Sorry to ask about this since this has been beaten to death many times, but I *wonder* why FreeBSD does not have TeXLive as default tex installation? I look at a Linux project that is very similar to FreeBSD, Slackware and they at least explain why it is not included as default and include tetex 3.0 which is no longer developed. One can build a tetex package for slackware easily through slackbuilds.org. No problem there. On FreeBSD, there are several attempts to address this issue: http://tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2009-November/023783.html http://code.google.com/p/freebsd-texlive/ I have tried Romain's repository, followed the instructions on FreeBSD 8.0 AMD 64, but did not get anywhere, the default tetex(installed by ports) was the only one that worked. I did not try the other binaries on second link provided. Is there a foolproof/idiotproof way of installing TeXLive, even from source, that does not require one to have tetex? I see NetBSD or OpenBSD has TeXLive as a port in their ports, why hasn't FreeBSD followed them? I can see why others[Linux/BSD distributors] have licensing issues, but FreeBSD is not like that at least from what I know. I broke my 8.0 installation, and want to install 8.1 but want to see how it would be easier to install texlive or just be happy with tetex and move on till FreeBSD developers include texlive by default? Don't want to add insult to injury or offend anyone, I just want to see how installing texlive on FreeBSD can be made easier? Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 20:02:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024521065677 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:02:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr18.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr18.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64118FC0A for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr18.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6OK2M0v094436; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:02:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3E9CABAA8; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:02:22 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:02:22 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Antonio Olivares Message-ID: <20100724200221.GA61380@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: TexLive on FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:02:25 -0000 --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 07:51:55PM +0000, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Dear folks, >=20 > Sorry to ask about this since this has been beaten to death many > times, but I *wonder* why FreeBSD does not have TeXLive as default tex > installation? TeXLive has a _huge_ list of options, and its own configuration/install script. I guess that makes it hard to port.=20 > Is there a foolproof/idiotproof way of installing TeXLive, even from > source, that does not require one to have tetex? I've documented my install (including building the binaries from source) at http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/unix/misc.xhtml#updatingtexlivetoversion2009 I've been using TeXLive on FreeBSD for years without problems. There are some ports (e.g. auctex for emacs) that require TeX. For those ports, I patch their Makefiles to use TeXLive. Below is the patch for auctex's port Makefile; ----- auctex port patch ----- --- Makefile.orig 2009-07-31 15:55:10.000000000 +0200 +++ Makefile 2009-12-21 16:06:05.000000000 +0100 @@ -16,8 +16,8 @@ MAINTAINER=3D hrs@FreeBSD.org COMMENT=3D Integrated environment for writing LaTeX using GNU Emacs =20 -BUILD_DEPENDS=3D ${MKTEXLSR}:${PORTSDIR}/print/teTeX-base -RUN_DEPENDS=3D ${MKTEXLSR}:${PORTSDIR}/print/teTeX-base +#BUILD_DEPENDS=3D ${MKTEXLSR}:${PORTSDIR}/print/teTeX-base +#RUN_DEPENDS=3D ${MKTEXLSR}:${PORTSDIR}/print/teTeX-base =20 USE_GHOSTSCRIPT=3Dyes GNU_CONFIGURE=3D yes @@ -38,8 +38,8 @@ MKTEXLSR=3D${MKTEXLSR} INFO=3D auctex preview-latex =20 -TEXMFDIR=3D share/texmf -MKTEXLSR=3D ${LOCALBASE}/bin/mktexlsr +TEXMFDIR=3D texlive/2009/texmf +MKTEXLSR=3D ${LOCALBASE}/texlive/2009/bin/amd64-freebsd/mktexlsr =20 NOT_FOR_ARCHS=3D ia64 =20 ----- auctex port patch ----- Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxLRs0ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWsXACfU7xQ76VCGZW8eHZ/dOUQcj9z LboAn0U9N+d2VTbD6FNvU4s3NNYpaDYe =0j9Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 20:29:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A745106564A for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:29:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8418FC1F for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:29:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so5421871wwe.31 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:29:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Us8rq36v1ZWncdWhUZRCMBbkcJOXBE79nrzkpm2BDXw=; b=l5aP9jGpLuGZpQ85Q392TLCDgOFD4EKFQeGsmkd+ovixgR9z2EjFAuN7DqkhEnFM4Q xi9Z+3itvPqGEmIokShe+6Ig+tnTztFdoDlruDtu778g7ZPHf7pz7Vz0vwniFdA7zXNn QWFcLz4fPqZ33lk4kc/CZgWxH/Hq6dEtbmxWg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=rDYriq8yyUJNcCakjCZPo1MC14S8PFvCFr80Mu8umsBZCO6+KJ6OZZoLjXYl6mGjsG zfIX6yQWpoqQvnkvvKahAEf27aEC7fZ+jnMV6hmAcFodNX3Vz7Kjp+BvEyAJX+eZdJcJ BmtLFLfO8uZNkUYeucb44kz/+P1Wvs1O7/sSQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.145.146 with SMTP id d18mr5224753wbv.172.1280003346550; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.165.140 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:29:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100724200221.GA61380@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20100724200221.GA61380@slackbox.erewhon.net> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:29:06 +0000 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Roland Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: TexLive on FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:29:08 -0000 Thank you Roland, I will download 8.1 Release and attempt it. Thanks your for your advice and for the howto :) Regards, Antonio On 7/24/10, Roland Smith wrote: > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 07:51:55PM +0000, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> Dear folks, >> >> Sorry to ask about this since this has been beaten to death many >> times, but I *wonder* why FreeBSD does not have TeXLive as default tex >> installation? > > TeXLive has a _huge_ list of options, and its own configuration/install > script. I guess that makes it hard to port. > >> Is there a foolproof/idiotproof way of installing TeXLive, even from >> source, that does not require one to have tetex? > > I've documented my install (including building the binaries from source) at > http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/unix/misc.xhtml#updatingtexlivetoversion2009 > > I've been using TeXLive on FreeBSD for years without problems. > > There are some ports (e.g. auctex for emacs) that require TeX. For those > ports, I patch their Makefiles to use TeXLive. Below is the patch for > auctex's port Makefile; > > ----- auctex port patch ----- > --- Makefile.orig 2009-07-31 15:55:10.000000000 +0200 > +++ Makefile 2009-12-21 16:06:05.000000000 +0100 > @@ -16,8 +16,8 @@ > MAINTAINER= hrs@FreeBSD.org > COMMENT= Integrated environment for writing LaTeX using GNU Emacs > > -BUILD_DEPENDS= ${MKTEXLSR}:${PORTSDIR}/print/teTeX-base > -RUN_DEPENDS= ${MKTEXLSR}:${PORTSDIR}/print/teTeX-base > +#BUILD_DEPENDS= ${MKTEXLSR}:${PORTSDIR}/print/teTeX-base > +#RUN_DEPENDS= ${MKTEXLSR}:${PORTSDIR}/print/teTeX-base > > USE_GHOSTSCRIPT=yes > GNU_CONFIGURE= yes > @@ -38,8 +38,8 @@ > MKTEXLSR=${MKTEXLSR} > INFO= auctex preview-latex > > -TEXMFDIR= share/texmf > -MKTEXLSR= ${LOCALBASE}/bin/mktexlsr > +TEXMFDIR= texlive/2009/texmf > +MKTEXLSR= ${LOCALBASE}/texlive/2009/bin/amd64-freebsd/mktexlsr > > NOT_FOR_ARCHS= ia64 > > ----- auctex port patch ----- > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 20:29:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB754106567A for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:29:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1638FC1F for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6OKTiHF006334; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:29:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:29:43 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Lowell Gilbert Message-ID: <20100724202943.GA6335@thought.org> References: <20100724005105.GA22574@thought.org> <44vd84x347.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44vd84x347.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: popt-1.50 or better?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:29:47 -0000 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:21:12PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Gary Kline writes: > > > hey y'all, > > > > there is a program called libots [or ots] that acts to summarize text > > that i'd like to port to freebsd. i grabbed the src from scourceforge > > days ago and found that i need a later version of popt than we have. > > we've got v 1.14 of popt and the configure script from libots says that > > 1.5 is required. i've stumbled around but haven't figured out where to > > grab the newer version. > > 1.14 is the latest version. 1.5 is considerably older. how can 1.50 be older than 1.14? -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 20:40:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD031065677 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:40:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78EA8FC13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:40:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6OKed0l006400; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:40:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:40:38 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20100724204038.GB6335@thought.org> References: <4C4A9870.8050106@bah.homeip.net> <4C4AA29C.20109@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C4AA29C.20109@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. Cc: Victor Skovorodnikov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:40:51 -0000 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 09:21:48AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 24/07/2010 08:38:24, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > Victor Skovorodnikov said the following on 2010-07-24 04:01: > >> Hi! > >> > >> This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. Why such a > >> logo for BSD? What is the > >> meaning of that logo? > >> > >> I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get > >> deterred by its un-Christian > >> logo. > > > > Grow up your silly sod! > > No, no. I'm afraid the game is up, chaps. Such perspicacious > observation! Such penetrating insight! How could we have dreamed that > anyone would uncover our daemonic plot to make the world a better place > through superior software by simply examining our logo? > > My friends, I fear that there is going to be a lot of holy water > sprinkled in data centres over the coming months. There will be much > weeping and wailing and a darkness shall spread over the face of the > net; lightnings and thunders and unwholesome smokes shall assault those > holy warriors attempting to drive out the daemonically possessed (Hint: > turn off the power *before* applying the Holy Water.) > [[ ... ]] Suggest that Victor not do much more 'thinking'; his head may explode ... . gary > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 20:55:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30AA106564A for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:55:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945C78FC0A for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:55:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6OKtSch006508; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:55:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:55:27 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20100724205527.GC6335@thought.org> References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <20100724134547.4ec51483.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100724134547.4ec51483.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. Cc: David Brodbeck , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:55:34 -0000 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 01:45:47PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 00:05:14 -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: > > I'm reminded of when some Christian groups called for a boycott of > > Apple because they had an OS project code-named "Darwin." Some people > > will just go out of their way to look for reasons to take offense. I guess ao! I mean, who has anything against Ralph Darwin? He was the absolute nicest fellow ever born ... {Foxy wife, too.] > > I'm reminded to a specific "Computer Stupidity", and please > forgive me that I quote it here: > > Tech Support: "All right...now double-click on the > File Manager icon." > Customer: "That's why I hate this Windows -- because of > the icons -- I'm a Protestant, and I don't > believe in icons." > Tech Support: "Well, that's just an industry term sir. > I don't believe it was meant to --" > Customer: "I don't care about any 'Industry Terms'. > I don't believe in icons." > Tech Support: "Well...why don't you click on the > 'little picture' of a file cabinet...is > 'little picture' ok?" > Customer: [click] > > http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_icons.shtml > > > Sorry. :-) > I would sigh, but i'm all sighed out right now.... > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 21:00:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321741065676 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:00:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078A58FC17 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:00:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6OL0HFn006559 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:00:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:00:17 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100724210017.GD6335@thought.org> References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <20100724174634.GE50085@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100724174634.GE50085@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. Cc: Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:00:19 -0000 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:46:34AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth David Brodbeck on Saturday, 24 July 2010: > > On Jul 23, 2010, at 11:24 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > > >It's a cartoon character. It's not an attempt to lure your children > > >to > > >join Satan's armies. There's no reason to be "deterred" from giving > > >FreeBSD a try just because of a friendly cartoon character. > > > > I'm reminded of when some Christian groups called for a boycott of > > Apple because they had an OS project code-named "Darwin." Some people > > will just go out of their way to look for reasons to take offense. > > > > I'm reminded that the SATAN network scanner project used to ship a > > utility with the source code that would patch it to rename it > > "SANTA". I suppose someone could fork a new BSD distribution with an > > angel for a logo, to mollify these sorts of people. Call it > > BlessedBSD (BleSseD?) or something. ;) > > > That would probably make a lot of Christian BSD users happy. > > Personally, I like the devilish association, however indirect it may be. > FreeBSD is somewhat counter-cultural and anti-authoritarian, after all. > > The whole notion of the Christian heaven seems remarkably close to > Microsoft's vision of software: everyone will exist together in this > eternal utopian sameness, and they'll like it. > > Give me my daemons, my lake of fire, and some people who aren't too good > to know what they want and don't want-- we'll have a party. > I'll bring the Leinenkugels Limited. > -- > Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F > http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 21:06:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582F2106564A for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:06:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E1D8FC0C for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:06:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6OL6MBK034708 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:06:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C4B55C4.6090800@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:06:12 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20100724005105.GA22574@thought.org> <44vd84x347.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20100724202943.GA6335@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20100724202943.GA6335@thought.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig23A3DDC65F5DDC28ED819123" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Lowell Gilbert , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: popt-1.50 or better?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:06:29 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig23A3DDC65F5DDC28ED819123 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 24/07/2010 21:29:43, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:21:12PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> Gary Kline writes: >> >>> hey y'all, >>> >>> there is a program called libots [or ots] that acts to summarize text= >>> that i'd like to port to freebsd. i grabbed the src from scourceforg= e >>> days ago and found that i need a later version of popt than we have. >>> we've got v 1.14 of popt and the configure script from libots says th= at >>> 1.5 is required. i've stumbled around but haven't figured out where = to >>> grab the newer version. >> >> 1.14 is the latest version. 1.5 is considerably older. >=20 >=20 > how can 1.50 be older than 1.14? Ummm... you seem to be in some sort of timewarp there Gary... The home of the popt project appears to be http://freshmeat.net/projects/popt/, and there the most recent version available is 1.14. Now, 1.50 would by rights be newer than 1.14, but trouble is, 1.50 doesn't exist yet. Also, you said 1.50 in the Subject of your e-mail, and 1.5 in the body: one of those is probably a typo, and I'm not offering odds on which. How old is the ots software you're trying to port? If it's from before there was popt >=3D 1.10 available, then it might be something as simple as a failure to read all the digits in the popt version number, or comparing the numbers alphabetically rather than numerically. Shouldn't be too hard to debug. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig23A3DDC65F5DDC28ED819123 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxLVc0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxOUgCffbfl6JhNFZZDTXU/a6fpikt+ 6uAAn0IUX65CBBrfS4rWelkJUXTACsqU =OdE5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig23A3DDC65F5DDC28ED819123-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 21:11:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D57A1065675 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:11:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C068FC15 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:11:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15342 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2010 21:11:41 -0000 Received: from dsl081-163-112.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO ringbill.gull.us) ([64.81.163.112]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 24 Jul 2010 21:11:41 -0000 Received: from alphonse ([192.168.10.9] helo=alphonse.gull.us) by ringbill.gull.us with esmtpa (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Ocm0S-000E6b-Lb for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:11:40 -0700 Message-Id: <8279E0B1-B1ED-49AF-BB8F-15CEA104821A@gull.us> From: David Brodbeck To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:11:40 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:11:42 -0000 On Jul 24, 2010, at 7:33 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > I am not a religious man myself, but if the logo had any religious > meaning to me I am sure I could better understand Victor's issues. > Seems silly, but if it was the other way around I'm sure _many_ people > here would probably concur in the discomfort of using an OS who's logo > was some sort of religion symbol, say a Christian Cross, Egyptian > Ankh, David Star, Muslim Moon, or a Satanic Encircled Five Point Star. Well, to me it's about intent. I doubt the FreeBSD logo was picked with the intent of sticking a thumb in the eye of anyone religious. I also think it's pretty clear it wasn't picked by someone who identified with Satanism. On the other hand, if someone uses a Jesus Fish or a cross as a logo, they're usually trying to make a political point. *That* would make me uncomfortable -- not the symbol itself, but the sentiment I knew was behind it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 21:35:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D615106564A for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:35:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arab@tangerine-army.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3008FC1D for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:35:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.23.170.139] (helo=anti-virus01-10) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ochl2-0001Oy-8L for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:39:28 +0100 Received: from [94.168.170.153] (helo=Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ochkv-0006Cs-Gf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:39:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:38:34 +0100 Message-ID: <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F7897392904F7B2@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: BSD logo Thread-Index: AcsrPU67+WkzjXzKQaavn47e3JDFtwAETYHA References: From: "Graeme Dargie" To: Subject: RE: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:35:56 -0000 To all who replied to this, I just have to say I have not laugh so hard in ages. Regards=20 Graeme From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 21:47:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD301065675 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:47:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@fstaals.net) Received: from edu-smtp-02.edutel.nl (edu-smtp-02.edutel.nl [88.159.1.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6D48FC0A for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from FStaals.net (104-208.ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl [88.159.208.104]) by edu-smtp-02.edutel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 5C2FA1085D6; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:47:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from FStaals.net (localhost.FStaals.LAN [127.0.0.1]) by filter.fstaals.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769DF95849; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:57:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on FStaals.net X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50, FH_DATE_PAST_20XX autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from Rena.FStaals.LAN (localhost.FStaals.LAN [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: frank) by FStaals.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6CB6595848; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:57:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C4B5F66.2020102@fstaals.net> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:47:18 +0200 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100715 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antonio Olivares References: <20100724200221.GA61380@slackbox.erewhon.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Roland Smith , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: TexLive on FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:47:46 -0000 On 07/24/10 22:29, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Thank you Roland, I will download 8.1 Release and attempt it. Thanks > your for your advice and for the howto :) > > Regards, > > Antonio > Take a look at ports-mgmt/portshaker-config :) Portshaker is basically a tool which allows you to merge multiple ports-trees into one. With portshaker-config you can enable the texlive part of the portstree. Allthough it mentions it is still experimental I have been using this setup for quite some time now and did not encounter any problems, allthough portupgrade had some problems updating everything correctly from texlive2008 to 2009. Regards, -- - Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 21:49:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029F31065674 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:49:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D97208FC19 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:49:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11460 invoked by uid 0); 24 Jul 2010 21:49:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 2010 21:49:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=YBrd7Al/NsCRCEYY1Lhu69pzuDFSaW0FN5BZq/30qUv+o8V2/kgoduqOqCy8PSmJpr7Uwdj3zGnxjwe579gzSH/qzypFEvNkGd6ERJzTCDzAdhxG0MUXYc2qUgZ7ANdk; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ocmap-0000QW-35 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:49:16 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:47:25 -0600 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:47:25 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100724214725.GA82251@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100724185925.GA69480@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DocE+STaALJfprDB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100724185925.GA69480@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:49:17 -0000 --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 02:59:25PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: >=20 > In ancient lore there was a bunch friendly characters who hung > around out of sight and waited for a being - human being mostly - > to need help. One of those creatures would slip in and somewhat > mysteriously do little things to help - not necessarily fix the > whole problem, but place something in the human's way that can help > them solve the problem. These merry creatures were called daemons > - pronounced day-mohn. I guess they are sort of like friendly=20 > sprites of elves. Actually, "daemon" is a Latinization of the Greek "daimon". Daimon is pronounced something more like "die-mahn", but (being from the Latin) daemon is prounounced "dee-mohn". Unix tradition holds that "daemon" is pronounced similarly to the Latin fashion (in practice, roughly like "dee-muhn" by English speakers). >=20 > This has come up on this list a hundred times. Far better to educate > those who are poorly informed than to roll over to prejudice and > misinformation. I agree. Good work. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxLX20ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWdMgCglZOd/RanPukb7GWJQKsHT/AK SMsAn1Tw8WeOAL/jEOlTeNpFDLruXJfj =AfeS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DocE+STaALJfprDB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 22:01:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172F4106564A for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:01:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E22E8FC12 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:01:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23766 invoked by uid 0); 24 Jul 2010 22:01:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 2010 22:01:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=CGzFycFtwGhDi142lyWM+zEf5ixfSllJVyOucEQqSnuEZmsGQVy9yREpB26XXuJOflu5jTPzYvO31hjrvNbbBmgggq4gAZhpZ2xYoKKhqg3UIgTdDS7iypRRgxGYENEp; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ocmmx-0003Fq-A3 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:01:48 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:59:57 -0600 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:59:57 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100724215957.GA82371@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:01:49 -0000 --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:05:14AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: >=20 > I'm reminded that the SATAN network scanner project used to ship a =20 > utility with the source code that would patch it to rename it =20 > "SANTA". I suppose someone could fork a new BSD distribution with an =20 > angel for a logo, to mollify these sorts of people. Call it =20 > BlessedBSD (BleSseD?) or something. ;) By the way . . . while I think a BelssedBSD fork is a ridiculous idea, the name "BlessedBSD" is *brilliant*. Pronouncing it aloud makes the high-quality pun buried in the name more obvious, for those who didn't quite catch it on the first read-through. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxLYl0ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWmMwCbBNPulel5FT+4wuCuPsBTCFzY 0W8AnR0Ea43cy+MJX1nAXrLL/HXFD7y7 =P5C9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 22:37:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8601065670 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:37:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE968FC0C for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:37:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6OMauIn007147; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:36:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:36:55 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20100724223655.GA6725@thought.org> References: <20100724005105.GA22574@thought.org> <44vd84x347.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20100724202943.GA6335@thought.org> <4C4B55C4.6090800@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C4B55C4.6090800@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. Cc: Lowell Gilbert , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: popt-1.50 or better?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:37:05 -0000 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:06:12PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 24/07/2010 21:29:43, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:21:12PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > >> Gary Kline writes: > >> > >>> hey y'all, > >>> > >>> there is a program called libots [or ots] that acts to summarize text > >>> that i'd like to port to freebsd. i grabbed the src from scourceforge > >>> days ago and found that i need a later version of popt than we have. > >>> we've got v 1.14 of popt and the configure script from libots says that > >>> 1.5 is required. i've stumbled around but haven't figured out where to > >>> grab the newer version. > >> > >> 1.14 is the latest version. 1.5 is considerably older. > > > > > > how can 1.50 be older than 1.14? > > Ummm... you seem to be in some sort of timewarp there Gary... The home > of the popt project appears to be http://freshmeat.net/projects/popt/, > and there the most recent version available is 1.14. Now, 1.50 would by > rights be newer than 1.14, but trouble is, 1.50 doesn't exist yet. > Also, you said 1.50 in the Subject of your e-mail, and 1.5 in the body: > one of those is probably a typo, and I'm not offering odds on which. > > How old is the ots software you're trying to port? If it's from before > there was popt >= 1.10 available, then it might be something as simple > as a failure to read all the digits in the popt version number, or > comparing the numbers alphabetically rather than numerically. Shouldn't > be too hard to debug. > > Cheers, > > Matthew hdere are the last few lines of output from configure, ots-0.5.0: checking for pkg-config... /usr/X11R6/bin/pkg-config checking for glib-2.0 >= 2.0 libxml-2.0 >= 2.4.23... yes checking OTS_CFLAGS... -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include checking OTS_LIBS... -L/usr/local/lib -lglib-2.0 -lxml2 checking for poptParseArgvString in -lpopt... no configure: error: popt 1.5 or newer is required to build ots. You can download the latest version from ftp://ftp.rpm.org/pub/rpm/dist/rpm-4.1.x/ p2 15:33 [5784] what am i missing? gary > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 22:50:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE63106566B for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:50:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gautham@lisphacker.org) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1558FC0A for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:50:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwk3 with SMTP id 3so1162809qwk.13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:50:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.19.197 with SMTP id c5mr4353004qab.219.1280011810151; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.211.212 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:50:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100724154644.75b1938b@scorpio> References: <20100724084204.597b9e6f@scorpio> <20100724154644.75b1938b@scorpio> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 04:20:10 +0530 Message-ID: From: Gautham Ganapathy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: 64-bit Windows XP NDIS drivers giving missing symbols X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:50:11 -0000 On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Jerry wrote: > On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:45:24 +0000 > Paul B Mahol articulated: > > > > On 7/24/10, Jerry wrote: > > > On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:01:24 +0000 > > > Paul B Mahol articulated: > > > > > >> Such symbols are completly irrelevant for normal operation, because > > >> NDISulator crash on amd64 during driver initialization. > > >> I fixed this in my own git repo, but "fpudna in kernel mode" (my > > >> understanding is that it is source of panic when trying to use ndis0 > > >> device on amd64), present only on amd64 is still not yet fixed - thi= s > > >> should be addressed with fpu_kern KPI available on CURRENT - not don= e > > >> yet... > > >> Feel free to send patches. > > > > > > I feel his pain. I need 64 bit drivers for cards that FBSD does not > > > support, mostly 'N' protocol wireless cards. The inability to secure > > > and use perfectly good drivers that are available for Windows users i= n > > > FreeBSD is a real PIA. Of course, it does give my Window user friends > > > something to laugh about. > > > > And bwn(4) doesn't work at all? > > > bwn -- Broadcom BCM43xx IEEE 802.11b/g wireless network driver > > > You will notice that there is no 'n' in the description. In any case, > it is limited to 'broadcom' chips. > > -- > Jerry =E2=9C=8C > FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net > Nope, bwn did not work. The man page mentioned a port that also had to be installed. It had two modules, which I put in loader.conf one at a time along with if_bwn.ko, but still no luck. The card I have has a Broadcom 4353 chipset. I think it is b/g/n. Regards Gautham From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 22:53:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1331065673 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:53:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA278FC14 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so5480928wwe.31 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:53:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=olI+4XvdcX927M2mOFsLmp1cQCdqL8Q6brG5lOT4hjo=; b=pzdeVXzW+UiyVh63LNWO+ORHxzkJPiYxfXSQa5KY+SM5OVqKThA/ITrGlm7czPgOxM 9x0cWTtFEESg4Ss3MM2RVmJrV/FuzSrkWfobVIOFtR6lNw167H6dgy/QNkMmN8P0QdFG Dvi09w5I2N2tKOz9cxgIcX533qn8iRsHtG2+M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=djJJXVKe18S0/zyVZuqUiY6MxvKUaAGJwGttwITLuXPtPNwIak30d98pqfLW8CkiKe zleianN0J/OnT81Ep5yMHjGR+AbgzQuVJNY14/XqB2XiUredc7qbqdbnXqH3QMzn60zH O7wbUb6hay9opcOc8UyL9rlYrOOdjuMQWeXe0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.135.65 with SMTP id m1mr5310607wbt.212.1280011983800; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.171.10 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:53:03 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Gary Kline Subject: Re: popt-1.50 or better?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:53:07 -0000 >here are the last few lines of output from configure, ots-0.5.0: > >checking for pkg-config... /usr/X11R6/bin/pkg-config >checking for glib-2.0 >= 2.0 libxml-2.0 >= 2.4.23... yes >checking OTS_CFLAGS... -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 >-I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 >-I/usr/local/include >checking OTS_LIBS... -L/usr/local/lib -lglib-2.0 -lxml2 >checking for poptParseArgvString in -lpopt... no >configure: error: popt 1.5 or newer is required to build ots. >You can download the latest version from >ftp://ftp.rpm.org/pub/rpm/dist/rpm-4.1.x/ poptParseArgvString is in the $PREFIX/lib/libpopt.so.0 library from our devel/popt port. The latest available version of this software is 1.16, in the Red Hat repos. Look at the configure script to determine why it can't find the symbol. Maybe you need to reinstall devel/popt, or patch the configure script. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 23:10:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CF4106566B for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:10:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B548FC08 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:10:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so1537086wyj.13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:10:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VxUZCgzlcOTpDerq1qhTbYsT4C/yiHCuHoYVuKfandg=; b=CHAUuxXAp2Q41y6f/7VP5bGebXRXez34L1hrYsG5bdFtOxmXf64LrG4N7ElCwD1HiK Hg/I7/RDbKzCFbhH8Ah0bpY/D2Ibw+1oKWadzkgW0DLZITycBZDzH2VBVl1FdTDUMqeZ IAG6gP+Ban3WJbUtt0RoTttA+7ljI56uLWJH0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=VRp0A6AgChCc8E70jOaQ8yOdMMy190jf9SFgf2GMeelj6q8TzQ0fwD6HsUCq0x2Nhk KfIvI+6jSRYW7f1n407kN78F69pOYpgXDE3B06E00LDMsR7G7hL9o1z6UbdCMSl6V3Gv VCLUFCVrmR9lxe/x4ng5UqPr/ZHb/4TPodkD8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.37.18 with SMTP id v18mr5359040wbd.74.1280013040541; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:10:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.171.10 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:10:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:10:40 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: 8.1 is available X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:10:42 -0000 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 07:38:51PM +0800, Aiza wrote: > Since the release team never makes a announcement on this list when a > new RELEASE is published. I will let you all know that > > RELEASE 8.1 has been published and is available for download. And if you were wondering why the release iso images were uploaded to the main project server four days prior to the announcement, the official reason given was to allow all of the mirrors time to synchronize with the main server before the announcement, to avoid lots of inquiries about why the release "isn't available". b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 23:25:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98241065675 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:25:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22AF48FC14 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:25:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.205]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:24:02 -0700 Message-ID: <4C4B764A.3060808@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 07:24:58 +0800 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bf1783@gmail.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jul 2010 23:24:02.0358 (UTC) FILETIME=[4D0EB560:01CB2B87] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 8.1 is available X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:25:03 -0000 b. f. wrote: > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 07:38:51PM +0800, Aiza wrote: > >> Since the release team never makes a announcement on this list when a >> new RELEASE is published. I will let you all know that >> >> RELEASE 8.1 has been published and is available for download. > > And if you were wondering why the release iso images were uploaded to > the main project server four days prior to the announcement, the > official reason given was to allow all of the mirrors time to > synchronize with the main server before the announcement, to avoid > lots of inquiries about why the release "isn't available". > What I am wondering is why the release iso have been renamed. The path and file name was to long before and now with 8.1 some fool added the word Freebsd to it. What on earth for? How many times does the word freebsd have to be in the path/name? Wish somebody would supervise the worker bees so they don't go changing thing on their own.