From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 01:03:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68043106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 01:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1953C8FC21 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 01:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so1575299wyj.13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:02:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=1jXqcUbEGRZjagqadjhTqoIA2Cnpq/0pm+XwIYmnlM8=; b=aXkD9T9VHaBbmvYRfDsMy3huTe1gZfAbvtiby/MsNxtbROsBHzy86uyE3egTg/IQ28 YEF2V/I31xBa9ezP731OlApkeqNolnvsZgJRoTMBsNHcpllM6mer/3CrRrt2ufGoNIsv TWOK0TxfXiEeXxtyje3p7HUxKoMrxiMaOAOFc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=pmHvMJaNtCdZ9j2wIT0ZA59dJPStO4b2XbSJcLUlHSSv8B7lZYt3gDN58UerodcHcU TyH2Ar+K/g79Oq+Hj/2nQLUiGwy6ZnWl+rF7JW83MQA0QLIIRekt0lRkhknuMhDbXGrY Si1FIVxjMXKGySyS73zFW+KJbFMYEs0m5rebA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.178.146 with SMTP id f18mr5448067wem.101.1280019774678; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.171.10 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:02:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C4B764A.3060808@a1poweruser.com> References: <4C4B764A.3060808@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 01:02:54 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Fbsd8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 8.1 is available X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 01:03:47 -0000 On 7/24/10, Fbsd8 wrote: > b. f. wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 07:38:51PM +0800, Aiza wrote: > > What I am wondering is why the release iso have been renamed. The path > and file name was to long before and now with 8.1 some fool added the > word Freebsd to it. What on earth for? How many times does the word > freebsd have to be in the path/name? Wish somebody would supervise the > worker bees so they don't go changing thing on their own. That was because a lot of people with a different opinion about this complained, so that re@ was persuaded to make the change: >Revision 200775 - (view) (annotate) - [select for diffs] >>Modified Mon Dec 21 14:42:35 2009 UTC (7 months ago) by kensmith File length: 45736 byte(s) >Diff to previous 197313 > >Add "FreeBSD-" to the beginning of the filenames for the ISO images. >People who collect ISOs from more than just us have been requesting >this for a while. > >MFC after: 1 week It seems reasonable to me, even if it does require a few (possibly annoying) one-time-only adjustments for some people. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 01:59:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1A3106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 01:59:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A578FC12 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 01:59:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk7 with SMTP id 7so701439pzk.13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:59:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization:user-agent :x-operating-system:x-face:face:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WcluavHVJvBg0/sBmEAdhD1j7BrDsOoJDL5rd+oT7YI=; b=YRr59dXspy2e4kYX6tQhyX5ZQvj/o8UPJLcSk/TKNvurG4xoDx4DnyACLu4grETITD pq80XzlsgEiZ1Gk9rGNU1kROKVG3w/yjc3sQsd62+aeCge5U91+NCIQxdjgwcrPqwNTc fSWL2LFsNTU9sWscIWSXZUobIgr4wS0uNle3I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :organization:user-agent:x-operating-system:x-face:face:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dXhx1TPf66vN39kPPyFSkrzJmLhwEcDwCv3+TV2XjsovURJPeJx1LJL60WZY75Q7iF zeRBQ3Tu2wPOj4uf43q4GNakHsDC9Ulb0mxUzi8aJX/M+YLOcEMSaxnY5BtZJY0rAs8/ AFZX2M3nYKIO/wD9V6Tz58mZ1ddb+SK7kzxPY= Received: by 10.115.75.20 with SMTP id c20mr8515049wal.77.1280023171718; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:59:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icy.localdomain ([222.253.100.49]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l6sm216146rvb.2.2010.07.24.18.59.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:59:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:55:44 +0700 From: "Anh Ky Huynh" To: Antonio Olivares Message-ID: <20100725085544.23e75bd9@icy.localdomain> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Vietnamese TeX Users Group User-Agent: FreeBSD X-Operating-System: FreeBSD X-Face: FreeBSD Face: FreeBSD X-Mailer: FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: TexLive on FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 01:59:32 -0000 On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:51:55 +0000 Antonio Olivares wrote: > Sorry to ask about this since this has been beaten to death many > times, but I *wonder* why FreeBSD does not have TeXLive as default > tex installation? As TeXLive 2009 doesn't have binaries for FreeBSD ;) You can try TeXLive 2008 instead. > [snip] > Don't want to add insult to injury or offend anyone, I just want to > see how installing texlive on FreeBSD can be made easier? I build TeXLive from source code. It isn't easy but it works. Regards, -- Anh Ky Huynh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 02:58:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59BEC106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 02:58:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550CA8FC12 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 02:58:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.205]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:58:29 -0700 Message-ID: <4C4BA855.6070100@comclark.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:58:29 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jul 2010 02:58:29.0250 (UTC) FILETIME=[42529E20:01CB2BA5] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Cc: Subject: searching INDEX in .sh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 02:58:35 -0000 I'm looking for a snippet of .sh type shell code that searches the /usr/ports/INDEX-8 file for dependents. Just a pointer to a script in the ports system that has this would be helpful. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 03:09:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5271065672 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 03:09:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B148FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 03:09:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29389 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2010 03:09:30 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 25 Jul 2010 03:09:29 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E3550829; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 6F92E1CCF9; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:09:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Gary Kline References: <20100724005105.GA22574@thought.org> <44vd84x347.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20100724202943.GA6335@thought.org> <4C4B55C4.6090800@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100724223655.GA6725@thought.org> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:09:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20100724223655.GA6725@thought.org> (Gary Kline's message of "Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:36:55 -0700") Message-ID: <44sk382r6k.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: popt-1.50 or better?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 03:09:34 -0000 Gary Kline writes: > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:06:12PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> On 24/07/2010 21:29:43, Gary Kline wrote: >> > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:21:12PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> >> Gary Kline writes: >> >> >> >>> hey y'all, >> >>> >> >>> there is a program called libots [or ots] that acts to summarize text >> >>> that i'd like to port to freebsd. i grabbed the src from scourceforge >> >>> days ago and found that i need a later version of popt than we have. >> >>> we've got v 1.14 of popt and the configure script from libots says that >> >>> 1.5 is required. i've stumbled around but haven't figured out where to >> >>> grab the newer version. >> >> >> >> 1.14 is the latest version. 1.5 is considerably older. >> > >> > >> > how can 1.50 be older than 1.14? It can't. But you just modified 1.5 into 1.50, which (given that they aren't floating-point numbers) is an important difference. Remember: there can be more than one '.' in a version string. >> Ummm... you seem to be in some sort of timewarp there Gary... The home >> of the popt project appears to be http://freshmeat.net/projects/popt/, >> and there the most recent version available is 1.14. Now, 1.50 would by >> rights be newer than 1.14, but trouble is, 1.50 doesn't exist yet. >> Also, you said 1.50 in the Subject of your e-mail, and 1.5 in the body: >> one of those is probably a typo, and I'm not offering odds on which. >> >> How old is the ots software you're trying to port? If it's from before >> there was popt >= 1.10 available, then it might be something as simple >> as a failure to read all the digits in the popt version number, or >> comparing the numbers alphabetically rather than numerically. Shouldn't >> be too hard to debug. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Matthew > > > hdere are the last few lines of output from configure, ots-0.5.0: > > > checking for pkg-config... /usr/X11R6/bin/pkg-config > checking for glib-2.0 >= 2.0 libxml-2.0 >= 2.4.23... yes > checking OTS_CFLAGS... -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 > -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 > -I/usr/local/include > checking OTS_LIBS... -L/usr/local/lib -lglib-2.0 -lxml2 > checking for poptParseArgvString in -lpopt... no > configure: error: popt 1.5 or newer is required to build ots. > You can download the latest version from > ftp://ftp.rpm.org/pub/rpm/dist/rpm-4.1.x/ > p2 15:33 [5784] > > what am i missing? Version strings aren't decimal numbers. Most projects use each field as a separate integer. 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7 1.8 1.9 1.10 1.11 1.12 1.13 1.14 1.15 . . . 1.49 1.50 1.51 . . . So: 14 is bigger than 5. the version of popt in ports is the latest. Really. Trust Josh Paetzel; he's on top of things. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 03:49:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1E0106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 03:49:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lisen1001@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f182.google.com (mail-px0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E85A8FC0C for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 03:49:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi8 with SMTP id 8so4851779pxi.13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:49:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qxP+ZP1wYTbD/Ifz6Cxt3wtznuDUilG0DDoicNHQHPI=; b=BuZjK3yV6TxiI53JuZ+FGfMl4IH/sTCHVLSZysNqpc3YVplhAT2V9tEWCdxpYE0+vn C6emAop7fPDBzp5t7UVe/Wc2UBWYkBJuDEJjAK5CDNtpwGmt5C1mAKDywy9ofz5ZiC1C EJ6saQyVtzaGJGiNIfYeySgXC/m5ABrOvKJPI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AmSiiIay+14u8WqRboEJm/9dma8MIYjlBOLIYlIm7Ay3gZ4HX+9tQKzrhC6fuwb0iK YyOT2vufOo2o2oktcb9KAV8huwIa2aoS2X9tYAOIVPMGr+DA4CN71BjShTzZVzWpWYTp 8i0i+eVh0OdlBsG2bqJrz+aphds1gn+bKXG64= Received: by 10.114.137.7 with SMTP id k7mr5392441wad.128.1280029766790; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:49:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.24.2] ([218.107.55.253]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c10sm3729249wam.13.2010.07.24.20.49.24 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:49:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C4BB441.2040103@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:49:21 +0800 From: Jason User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; zh-CN; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: What's the meaning of this warn? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 03:49:27 -0000 HI,ALL: My freebsd server offer service to thousands of clients. I found lots of warning in the /var/log/message like this :"Approaching the limit on PV entries, consider increasing either the vm.pmap.shpgperproc or the vm.pmap.pv_entry_max tunable" My question is : 1.what is the meaning of PV? 2.Although there are lots of this warning,my server works still well. Could someone explain the meaning of this warning ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 04:30:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3351065675 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 04:30:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8C98FC16 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 04:30:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so1633724wyj.13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:30:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=4DPfSi2mIq8/gr20HNUVoFNozx8aIYdCMVZWcSoVCnM=; b=xjJGWTCOYuy2T77T9AmHnDbftGXD1gmkPw9W2oJMQ31QTT9jpCMtfi53nXQX5UcsWY zScZp8nGwCx1HdtYi0ftiTrbp9CIfy4OjsRPRH0PzeOq2D0Vi/XIuYuFq6JcHJJgnrth tC9c4Kp3jAK/2LRR86sQPDcBFh24hMWglesyA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=Vdsel4rqzkjjVorAOWPHv7T1ljIjeiXyQLv0VKwQPFERs3bjdGiSvmFVizWVha15dl 4kKNakG7KXX7d+so8ZJSohMQoTVoIUyMHiPzqJol3oywqzzNnfsUKQjpi+nM7dD16xcg c+JqGsqGJjHrhXW3MfeYqH968sipWrWlY1XsE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.188.81 with SMTP id z59mr929949wem.106.1280032233202; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.171.10 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 04:30:33 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Aiza Subject: Re: searching INDEX in .sh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 04:30:34 -0000 >I'm looking for a snippet of .sh type shell code that searches the >/usr/ports/INDEX-8 file for dependents. > >Just a pointer to a script in the ports system that has this would be >helpful Do you mean that, given port A, you want to find all ports that need port A in order to be fetched, extracted, patched, built or installed? Or do you want to find all ports that are needed to fetch, extract, patch, build or install port A? If the former, you could look at the parts of ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk that are used by running `make -C $PORTSDIR search bdeps= display=name,path`, and `make -C $PORTSDIR search rdeps= display=name,path`. If the latter, look at the parts of ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk that are used by running `make -C pretty-print-run-depends pretty-print-build-depends`. Also, parts of the ports-mgmt/portmaster script used with --index-only may have similar functionality. And do you mean to only use the INDEX? Or are you able to use parts of the port tree? Or the pkg_info utility? b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 04:42:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD4A1065674 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 04:42:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E5A8FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 04:42:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so5577683wwe.31 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:42:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=KTuu5H/luNtG+nOls1cfAVmeRm9IcKTzNESALrR/UvE=; b=re2a4xCPeWd+h64/ZpIv9+f5OMIb+7YTJGMCo0VvoTWqKw7aw8MMUP78LfghI5dW0Y Fri2lGtFXxc+O9sHyC7VI0qEsxxEh05LRdLWzYrWMZLN4uCt+km7hlPQCc5ufZ16aA3t /nFZosgdvw3camTy5aAqTq003p00PHy6FvsFU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=fFd4oPUT3tdWk4AMW0P87mf1MhrOzfZGHdYztNRdgLZEA2CVqstlJa8UEMASh24SI+ QT4ij/2R29kHfATbaVexox4/Gfqh5zdXPapIiGEYRT4HaMG2LBHaXfZoCNcxi7tsLoD9 Y9k9FDO2fwxWuHmxiDjkUVBMGwSem91q3jldM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.79.69 with SMTP id h47mr5677379wee.68.1280032949097; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.171.10 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:42:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 04:42:29 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Aiza Subject: Re: searching INDEX in .sh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 04:42:30 -0000 On 7/25/10, b. f. wrote: > the parts of ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk that are used by running `make -C > pretty-print-run-depends > pretty-print-build-depends`. Sorry, it's actually 'pretty-print-build-depends-list' and 'pretty-print-run-depends-list'. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 05:42:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F0D1065677 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 05:42:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mak@kolybabi.com) Received: from mail.nepharia.org (mail.nepharia.org [209.44.104.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3A18FC26 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 05:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.nepharia.org (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 75B873E9D05; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:42:24 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on mail.nepharia.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.0 Received: from brisbane.nepharia.org (wnpgmb0816w-ds01-16-115.dynamic.mts.net [207.161.16.115]) by mail.nepharia.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7153A3E9D05; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:42:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4C4BCEA6.4010103@kolybabi.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:41:58 -0500 From: Mak Kolybabi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100630) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040205070608060603040802" Cc: dave@ysarro.com Subject: FreeBSD 8.1 AHCI Timeouts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 05:42:26 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040205070608060603040802 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I bought a netbook today, and am trying to get FreeBSD 8.1 amd64 installed on it. As is my custom, I'm trying to back up the default system image the device came with. But no matter what I do, FreeBSD seems unable to properly interact with the hard drive. The netbook is a Toshiba NB250. The hard drive is listed by the BIOS as TOSHIBA MK1665GSXV-(S1). The BIOS version is V1.30. The first thing I did was boot the FreeBSD 8.1 amd64 USB install image, move to a fixit session using the live USB filesystem, and try and dd the hard drive to a USB stick. When I did that, the dd went terribly slow (a few KB a minute, before stalling), while dmesg was printing out: > ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=0 LBA=20530 These DMA failures occur regardless of whether the drive is in compatibility or AHCI mode. The next thing I did was boot again, changed the drive to AHCI mode, and did a "load ahci.ko" in the bootloader command prompt. The dd caused: > ahcich0: Timeout on slot 0 > ahcich0: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 00000000 rs 00000000 tfd 40 serr 00000000 The next thing I did was boot again, with the drive in AHCI mode, and did a "load ataahci.ko" in the bootloader command prompt. The dd caused: > ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=2048 Doing some searches on the Internet for this problem, people often asked for verbose dmesg, pciconf, and vmstat output. I have attached them all. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. --------------040205070608060603040802 Content-Type: text/plain; name="dmesg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="dmesg" Copyright (c) 1992-2010 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Jul 19 02:36:49 UTC 2010 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xffffffff8127c000. Preloaded mfs_root "/boot/mfsroot" at 0xffffffff8127c230. Preloaded elf obj module "/boot/kernel/ahci.ko" at 0xffffffff8127c280. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Calibrating TSC clock ... TSC clock: 1662690860 Hz CPU: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N455 @ 1.66GHz (1662.69-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x106ca Family = 6 Model = 1c Stepping = 10 Features=0xbfe9fbff Features2=0x40e39d AMD Features=0x20100800 AMD Features2=0x1 TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 1073741824 (1024 MB) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x0000000000001000 - 0x0000000000099fff, 626688 bytes (153 pages) 0x00000000012aa000 - 0x000000003d7cbfff, 1012015104 bytes (247074 pages) avail memory = 1004281856 (957 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 1 core(s) x 2 HTT threads cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP/HT): APIC ID: 1 x86bios: IVT 0x000000-0x0004ff at 0xffffff0000000000 x86bios: SSEG 0x010000-0x01ffff at 0xffffff800000e000 x86bios: EBDA 0x09d000-0x09ffff at 0xffffff000009d000 x86bios: ROM 0x0a0000-0x0effff at 0xffffff00000a0000 APIC: CPU 0 has ACPI ID 0 APIC: CPU 1 has ACPI ID 1 ULE: setup cpu 0 ULE: setup cpu 1 ACPI: RSDP 0xf7ca0 00024 (v2 TOSCPL) ACPI: XSDT 0x3f5d7ae1 00074 (v1 TOSCPL TOSCPL00 06040000 LTP 00000000) ACPI: FACP 0x3f5dfc60 000F4 (v3 TOSCPL TOSCPL00 06040000 PTL 00000002) ACPI: DSDT 0x3f5d8c77 06F75 (v1 TOSCPL TOSCPL00 06040000 MSFT 03000000) ACPI: FACS 0x3f5e2fc0 00040 ACPI: TCPA 0x3f5dfd54 00032 (v1 Phoeni x 06040000 TL 00000000) ACPI: HPET 0x3f5dfd86 00038 (v1 DELL M09 06040000 LOHR 0000005A) ACPI: MCFG 0x3f5dfdbe 0003C (v1 INTEL CRESTLNE 06040000 LOHR 0000005A) ACPI: SLIC 0x3f5dfdfa 00176 (v1 TOSCPL TOSCPL00 06040000 LOHR 00000000) ACPI: APIC 0x3f5dff70 00068 (v1 TOSCPL TOSCPL00 06040000 LTP 00000000) ACPI: BOOT 0x3f5dffd8 00028 (v1 TOSCPL TOSCPL00 06040000 LTP 00000001) ACPI: SSDT 0x3f5d80d7 0025F (v1 PmRef Cpu0Tst 00003000 INTL 20050624) ACPI: SSDT 0x3f5d8031 000A6 (v1 PmRef Cpu1Tst 00003000 INTL 20050624) ACPI: SSDT 0x3f5d7b55 004DC (v2 PmRef CpuPm 00003000 INTL 20050624) MADT: Found IO APIC ID 2, Interrupt 0 at 0xfec00000 ioapic0: Routing external 8259A's -> intpin 0 lapic0: Routing NMI -> LINT1 lapic0: LINT1 trigger: edge lapic0: LINT1 polarity: high lapic1: Routing NMI -> LINT1 lapic1: LINT1 trigger: edge lapic1: LINT1 polarity: high MADT: Interrupt override: source 0, irq 2 ioapic0: Routing IRQ 0 -> intpin 2 MADT: Interrupt override: source 9, irq 9 ioapic0: intpin 9 trigger: level ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard cpu0 BSP: ID: 0x00000000 VER: 0x00050014 LDR: 0x00000000 DFR: 0xffffffff lint0: 0x00010700 lint1: 0x00000400 TPR: 0x00000000 SVR: 0x000001ff timer: 0x000100ef therm: 0x00000200 err: 0x000000f0 pmc: 0x00010400 wlan: <802.11 Link Layer> random: nfslock: pseudo-device kbd: new array size 4 kbd1 at kbdmux0 mem: io: null: hptrr: RocketRAID 17xx/2xxx SATA controller driver v1.2 acpi0: on motherboard PCIe: Memory Mapped configuration base @ 0xe0000000 ioapic0: routing intpin 9 (ISA IRQ 9) to lapic 0 vector 48 acpi0: [MPSAFE] acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi_bus_number: root bus has no _BBN, assuming 0 AcpiOsDerivePciId: \\_SB_.PCI0.MPCE -> bus 0 dev 0 func 0 acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: wakeup code va 0xffffff8000003000 pa 0x4000 acpi_bus_number: root bus has no _BBN, assuming 0 AcpiOsDerivePciId: \\_SB_.PCI0.REGS -> bus 0 dev 0 func 0 acpi_bus_number: root bus has no _BBN, assuming 0 AcpiOsDerivePciId: \\_SB_.PCI0.IGD0.IGDP -> bus 0 dev 2 func 0 acpi_bus_number: root bus has no _BBN, assuming 0 AcpiOsDerivePciId: \\_SB_.PCI0.LPC0.REGS -> bus 0 dev 31 func 0 acpi_bus_number: root bus has no _BBN, assuming 0 AcpiOsDerivePciId: \\_SB_.PCI0.LPC0.MMTO -> bus 0 dev 31 func 0 acpi_bus_number: root bus has no _BBN, assuming 0 AcpiOsDerivePciId: \\_SB_.PCI0.LPC0.PIRX -> bus 0 dev 31 func 0 acpi_bus_number: root bus has no _BBN, assuming 0 AcpiOsDerivePciId: \\_SB_.PCI0.LPC0.PIRY -> bus 0 dev 31 func 0 ACPI timer: 1/1 1/1 1/1 1/1 1/1 1/1 1/1 1/1 1/1 1/1 -> 10 Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 ACPI: SSDT 0x3f5d89a0 00203 (v2 PmRef Cpu0Ist 00003000 INTL 20050624) ACPI: SSDT 0x3f5d8336 005E5 (v2 PmRef Cpu0Cst 00003001 INTL 20050624) cpu1: on acpi0 ACPI: SSDT 0x3f5d8ba3 000D4 (v2 PmRef Cpu1Ist 00003000 INTL 20050624) ACPI: SSDT 0x3f5d891b 00085 (v2 PmRef Cpu1Cst 00003000 INTL 20050624) acpi_ec0: port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 pci_link0: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs Initial Probe 0 7 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 Validation 0 7 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 After Disable 0 255 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 pci_link1: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs Initial Probe 0 11 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 Validation 0 11 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 After Disable 0 255 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 pci_link2: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs Initial Probe 0 5 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 Validation 0 5 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 After Disable 0 255 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 pci_link3: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs Initial Probe 0 10 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 Validation 0 10 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 After Disable 0 255 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 pci_link4: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs Initial Probe 0 255 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 Validation 0 255 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 After Disable 0 255 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 pci_link5: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs Initial Probe 0 255 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 Validation 0 255 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 After Disable 0 255 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 pci_link6: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs Initial Probe 0 10 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 Validation 0 10 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 After Disable 0 255 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 pci_link7: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs Initial Probe 0 11 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 Validation 0 11 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 After Disable 0 255 N 0 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: vend: 0x8086 rev: 0x1 num: 3 hz: 14318180 opts: legacy_route 64-bit Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: domain=0, physical bus=0 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0xa010, revid=0x00 domain=0, bus=0, slot=0, func=0 class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0006, statreg=0x2090, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0xa011, revid=0x00 domain=0, bus=0, slot=2, func=0 class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 cmdreg=0x0007, statreg=0x0090, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=a, irq=7 powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 MSI supports 1 message map[10]: type Memory, range 32, base 0xf0200000, size 19, enabled map[14]: type I/O Port, range 32, base 0x18d0, size 3, enabled map[18]: type Prefetchable Memory, range 32, base 0xd0000000, size 28, enabled map[1c]: type Memory, range 32, base 0xf0000000, size 20, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.2.INTA pcib0: slot 2 INTA hardwired to IRQ 16 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0xa012, revid=0x00 domain=0, bus=0, slot=2, func=1 class=03-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 cmdreg=0x0007, statreg=0x0090, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 map[10]: type Memory, range 32, base 0xf0280000, size 19, enabled found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x27d8, revid=0x02 domain=0, bus=0, slot=27, func=0 class=04-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0006, statreg=0x0010, cachelnsz=8 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=a, irq=10 powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 MSI supports 1 message, 64 bit map[10]: type Memory, range 64, base 0xf0500000, size 14, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.27.INTA pcib0: slot 27 INTA hardwired to IRQ 22 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x27d0, revid=0x02 domain=0, bus=0, slot=28, func=0 class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=1 cmdreg=0x0000, statreg=0x0010, cachelnsz=8 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=a, irq=7 powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 MSI supports 1 message pcib0: matched entry for 0.28.INTA pcib0: slot 28 INTA hardwired to IRQ 16 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x27d2, revid=0x02 domain=0, bus=0, slot=28, func=1 class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=1 cmdreg=0x0007, statreg=0x0010, cachelnsz=8 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x04 (1000 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=b, irq=11 powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 MSI supports 1 message pcib0: matched entry for 0.28.INTB pcib0: slot 28 INTB hardwired to IRQ 17 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x27d4, revid=0x02 domain=0, bus=0, slot=28, func=2 class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=1 cmdreg=0x0007, statreg=0x0010, cachelnsz=8 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x04 (1000 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=c, irq=5 powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 MSI supports 1 message pcib0: matched entry for 0.28.INTC pcib0: slot 28 INTC hardwired to IRQ 18 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x27c8, revid=0x02 domain=0, bus=0, slot=29, func=0 class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 cmdreg=0x0005, statreg=0x0280, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=a, irq=11 map[20]: type I/O Port, range 32, base 0x1820, size 5, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.29.INTA pcib0: slot 29 INTA hardwired to IRQ 23 unknown: Reserved 0x20 bytes for rid 0x20 type 4 at 0x1820 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x27c9, revid=0x02 domain=0, bus=0, slot=29, func=1 class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0005, statreg=0x0280, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=b, irq=10 map[20]: type I/O Port, range 32, base 0x1840, size 5, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.29.INTB pcib0: slot 29 INTB hardwired to IRQ 19 unknown: Reserved 0x20 bytes for rid 0x20 type 4 at 0x1840 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x27ca, revid=0x02 domain=0, bus=0, slot=29, func=2 class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0005, statreg=0x0280, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=c, irq=5 map[20]: type I/O Port, range 32, base 0x1860, size 5, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.29.INTC pcib0: slot 29 INTC hardwired to IRQ 18 unknown: Reserved 0x20 bytes for rid 0x20 type 4 at 0x1860 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x27cb, revid=0x02 domain=0, bus=0, slot=29, func=3 class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0005, statreg=0x0280, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=d, irq=7 map[20]: type I/O Port, range 32, base 0x1880, size 5, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.29.INTD pcib0: slot 29 INTD hardwired to IRQ 16 unknown: Reserved 0x20 bytes for rid 0x20 type 4 at 0x1880 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x27cc, revid=0x02 domain=0, bus=0, slot=29, func=7 class=0c-03-20, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0006, statreg=0x0290, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=a, irq=11 powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 map[10]: type Memory, range 32, base 0xf0504000, size 10, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.29.INTA pcib0: slot 29 INTA hardwired to IRQ 23 unknown: Reserved 0x400 bytes for rid 0x10 type 3 at 0xf0504000 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2448, revid=0xe2 domain=0, bus=0, slot=30, func=0 class=06-04-01, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0005, statreg=0x0010, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x27bc, revid=0x02 domain=0, bus=0, slot=31, func=0 class=06-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 cmdreg=0x0007, statreg=0x0210, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x27c1, revid=0x02 domain=0, bus=0, slot=31, func=2 class=01-06-01, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0007, statreg=0x02b0, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=b, irq=10 powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 MSI supports 1 message map[10]: type I/O Port, range 32, base 0x18e8, size 3, enabled map[14]: type I/O Port, range 32, base 0x18dc, size 2, enabled map[18]: type I/O Port, range 32, base 0x18e0, size 3, enabled map[1c]: type I/O Port, range 32, base 0x18d8, size 2, enabled map[20]: type I/O Port, range 32, base 0x18c0, size 4, enabled map[24]: type Memory, range 32, base 0xf0504400, size 10, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.31.INTB pcib0: slot 31 INTB hardwired to IRQ 19 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x27da, revid=0x02 domain=0, bus=0, slot=31, func=3 class=0c-05-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0001, statreg=0x0280, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=b, irq=10 map[20]: type I/O Port, range 32, base 0x18a0, size 5, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.31.INTB pcib0: slot 31 INTB hardwired to IRQ 19 vgapci0: port 0x18d0-0x18d7 mem 0xf0200000-0xf027ffff,0xd0000000-0xdfffffff,0xf0000000-0xf00fffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 agp0: on vgapci0 vgapci0: Reserved 0x10000000 bytes for rid 0x18 type 3 at 0xd0000000 vgapci0: Reserved 0x80000 bytes for rid 0x10 type 3 at 0xf0200000 vgapci0: Reserved 0x100000 bytes for rid 0x1c type 3 at 0xf0000000 agp0: detected 8188k stolen memory agp0: aperture size is 256M vgapci1: mem 0xf0280000-0xf02fffff at device 2.1 on pci0 pci0: at device 27.0 (no driver attached) pcib1: irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0 pcib1: domain 0 pcib1: secondary bus 5 pcib1: subordinate bus 5 pcib1: I/O decode 0x0-0x0 pcib1: no prefetched decode pci5: on pcib1 pci5: domain=0, physical bus=5 pcib2: irq 17 at device 28.1 on pci0 pcib2: domain 0 pcib2: secondary bus 7 pcib2: subordinate bus 7 pcib2: I/O decode 0xf000-0xfff pcib2: memory decode 0xf0100000-0xf01fffff pcib2: no prefetched decode pci7: on pcib2 pci7: domain=0, physical bus=7 found-> vendor=0x168c, dev=0x002b, revid=0x01 domain=0, bus=7, slot=0, func=0 class=02-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0007, statreg=0x0010, cachelnsz=8 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=a, irq=11 powerspec 3 supports D0 D1 D3 current D0 MSI supports 1 message map[10]: type Memory, range 64, base 0xf0100000, size 16, enabled pcib2: requested memory range 0xf0100000-0xf010ffff: good pcib2: matched entry for 7.0.INTA pcib2: slot 0 INTA hardwired to IRQ 17 ath0: mem 0xf0100000-0xf010ffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci7 ath0: Reserved 0x10000 bytes for rid 0x10 type 3 at 0xf0100000 ioapic0: routing intpin 17 (PCI IRQ 17) to lapic 0 vector 49 ath0: [MPSAFE] ath0: [ITHREAD] ath0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps ath0: 11g rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps ath0: 11ng MCS: 15Mbps 30Mbps 45Mbps 60Mbps 90Mbps 120Mbps 135Mbps 150Mbps 30Mbps 60Mbps 90Mbps 120Mbps 180Mbps 240Mbps 270Mbps 300Mbps ath0: AR9285 mac 192.2 RF5133 phy 14.0 ath0: Use hw queue 1 for WME_AC_BE traffic ath0: Use hw queue 0 for WME_AC_BK traffic ath0: Use hw queue 2 for WME_AC_VI traffic ath0: Use hw queue 3 for WME_AC_VO traffic ath0: Use hw queue 8 for CAB traffic ath0: Use hw queue 9 for beacons ath0: using multicast key search pcib3: irq 18 at device 28.2 on pci0 pcib3: domain 0 pcib3: secondary bus 9 pcib3: subordinate bus 9 pcib3: I/O decode 0x2000-0x2fff pcib3: prefetched decode 0xf0500000-0xf05fffff pci9: on pcib3 pci9: domain=0, physical bus=9 found-> vendor=0x10ec, dev=0x8136, revid=0x05 domain=0, bus=9, slot=0, func=0 class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0007, statreg=0x0010, cachelnsz=8 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=a, irq=5 powerspec 3 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 MSI supports 1 message, 64 bit MSI-X supports 4 messages in map 0x20 map[10]: type I/O Port, range 32, base 0x2000, size 8, enabled pcib3: requested I/O range 0x2000-0x20ff: in range map[18]: type Prefetchable Memory, range 64, base 0xf050c000, size 12, enabled pcib3: requested memory range 0xf050c000-0xf050cfff: good map[20]: type Prefetchable Memory, range 64, base 0xf0508000, size 14, enabled pcib3: requested memory range 0xf0508000-0xf050bfff: good pcib3: matched entry for 9.0.INTA pcib3: slot 0 INTA hardwired to IRQ 18 re0: port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xf050c000-0xf050cfff,0xf0508000-0xf050bfff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci9 re0: Reserved 0x1000 bytes for rid 0x18 type 3 at 0xf050c000 re0: MSI count : 1 re0: attempting to allocate 1 MSI vectors (1 supported) msi: routing MSI IRQ 256 to local APIC 0 vector 50 re0: using IRQ 256 for MSI re0: Using 1 MSI messages re0: Chip rev. 0x2c000000 re0: MAC rev. 0x00000000 miibus0: on re0 rgephy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 rgephy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto re0: bpf attached re0: Ethernet address: 88:ae:1d:46:55:36 re0: [MPSAFE] re0: [FILTER] uhci0: port 0x1820-0x183f irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 ioapic0: routing intpin 23 (PCI IRQ 23) to lapic 0 vector 51 uhci0: [MPSAFE] uhci0: [ITHREAD] usbus0: on uhci0 uhci1: port 0x1840-0x185f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 ioapic0: routing intpin 19 (PCI IRQ 19) to lapic 0 vector 52 uhci1: [MPSAFE] uhci1: [ITHREAD] usbus1: on uhci1 uhci2: port 0x1860-0x187f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 ioapic0: routing intpin 18 (PCI IRQ 18) to lapic 0 vector 53 uhci2: [MPSAFE] uhci2: [ITHREAD] usbus2: on uhci2 uhci3: port 0x1880-0x189f irq 16 at device 29.3 on pci0 ioapic0: routing intpin 16 (PCI IRQ 16) to lapic 0 vector 54 uhci3: [MPSAFE] uhci3: [ITHREAD] usbus3: on uhci3 ehci0: mem 0xf0504000-0xf05043ff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [MPSAFE] ehci0: [ITHREAD] usbus4: EHCI version 1.0 usbus4: on ehci0 pcib4: at device 30.0 on pci0 pcib4: domain 0 pcib4: secondary bus 17 pcib4: subordinate bus 17 pcib4: I/O decode 0xf000-0xfff pcib4: no prefetched decode pcib4: Subtractively decoded bridge. pci17: on pcib4 pci17: domain=0, physical bus=17 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 ahci0: port 0x18e8-0x18ef,0x18dc-0x18df,0x18e0-0x18e7,0x18d8-0x18db,0x18c0-0x18cf mem 0xf0504400-0xf05047ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 ahci0: Reserved 0x400 bytes for rid 0x24 type 3 at 0xf0504400 ahci0: attempting to allocate 1 MSI vectors (1 supported) msi: routing MSI IRQ 257 to local APIC 0 vector 55 ahci0: using IRQ 257 for MSI ahci0: [MPSAFE] ahci0: [ITHREAD] ahci0: AHCI v1.10 with 4 3Gbps ports, Port Multiplier not supported ahci0: Caps: 64bit NCQ ALP AL CLO 3Gbps PMD SSC PSC 32cmd 4ports ahci0: Caps2: ahcich0: at channel 0 on ahci0 ahcich0: [MPSAFE] ahcich0: [ITHREAD] ahcich0: Caps: ahcich1: at channel 1 on ahci0 ahcich1: [MPSAFE] ahcich1: [ITHREAD] ahcich1: Caps: ahcich2: at channel 2 on ahci0 ahcich2: [MPSAFE] ahcich2: [ITHREAD] ahcich2: Caps: ahcich3: at channel 3 on ahci0 ahcich3: [MPSAFE] ahcich3: [ITHREAD] ahcich3: Caps: pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) acpi_button0: on acpi0 atrtc0: port 0x70-0x71 irq 8 on acpi0 atrtc0: registered as a time-of-day clock (resolution 1000000us) acpi_acad0: on acpi0 battery0: on acpi0 acpi_lid0: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0047 atkbd: keyboard ID 0x41ab (2) kbd0 at atkbd0 kbd0: atkbd0, AT 101/102 (2), config:0x0, flags:0x3d0000 ioapic0: routing intpin 1 (ISA IRQ 1) to lapic 0 vector 56 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] psm0: unable to allocate IRQ psmcpnp0: irq 12 on acpi0 psm0: current command byte:0047 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 ioapic0: routing intpin 12 (ISA IRQ 12) to lapic 0 vector 57 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: [ITHREAD] psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0-00, 2 buttons psm0: config:00000000, flags:00000008, packet size:3 psm0: syncmask:c0, syncbits:00 ex_isa_identify() isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices atkbdc: atkbdc0 already exists; skipping it atrtc: atrtc0 already exists; skipping it sc: sc0 already exists; skipping it isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices orm0: at iomem 0xce000-0xcefff,0xdc000-0xdffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sc0: fb0, kbd1, terminal emulator: scteken (teken terminal) vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 fdc0 failed to probe at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range ppc0: failed to probe at irq 7 on isa0 uart0: failed to probe at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 uart1: failed to probe at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices est0: on cpu0 p4tcc0: on cpu0 est1: on cpu1 p4tcc1: on cpu1 Device configuration finished. procfs registered lapic: Divisor 2, Frequency 83134550 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1662690860 Hz quality -100 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec vlan: initialized, using hash tables with chaining lo0: bpf attached hptrr: no controller detected. ahcich0: AHCI reset... ahcich0: SATA connect time=0ms status=00000123 ahcich0: ready wait time=0ms ahcich0: AHCI reset done: device found ahcich1: AHCI reset... ahcich1: SATA offline status=00000004 ahcich1: AHCI reset done: phy reset found no device ahcich2: AHCI reset... ahcich2: SATA offline status=00000004 ahcich2: AHCI reset done: phy reset found no device ahcich3: AHCI reset... ahcich3: SATA offline status=00000004 ahcich3: AHCI reset done: phy reset found no device (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): SIGNATURE: 0000 md0: Preloaded image 4194304 bytes at 0xffffffff80e6aa98usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus1: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus2: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus3: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus4: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 ada0: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device ada0: Serial Number 50KBB02ZB ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: Command Queueing enabled ada0: 152627MB (312581808 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) pass0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 pass0: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device pass0: Serial Number 50KBB02ZB pass0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) pass0: Command Queueing enabled acpi_acad0: acline initialization start battery0: battery initialization start ugen0.1: at usbus0 uhub0: on usbus0 ugen1.1: at usbus1 uhub1: on usbus1 ugen2.1: at usbus2 uhub2: on usbus2 ugen3.1: at usbus3 uhub3: on usbus3 ugen4.1: at usbus4 uhub4: on usbus4 GEOM: new disk ada0 acpi_acad0: On Line acpi_acad0: acline initialization done, tried 1 times ATA PseudoRAID loaded SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! cpu1 AP: ID: 0x01000000 VER: 0x00050014 LDR: 0x00000000 DFR: 0xffffffff lint0: 0x00010700 lint1: 0x00000400 TPR: 0x00000000 SVR: 0x000001ff timer: 0x000200ef therm: 0x00010000 err: 0x000000f0 pmc: 0x00010400 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered GEOM: ada0: partition 4 does not start on a track boundary. GEOM: ada0: partition 4 does not end on a track boundary. GEOM: ada0: partition 3 does not start on a track boundary. GEOM: ada0: partition 3 does not end on a track boundary. GEOM: ada0: partition 2 does not start on a track boundary. GEOM: ada0: partition 2 does not end on a track boundary. GEOM: ada0: partition 1 does not start on a track boundary. GEOM: ada0: partition 1 does not end on a track boundary. uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered ugen4.2: at usbus4 umass0: on usbus4 umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0000 umass0:4:0:-1: Attached to scbus4 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Down reving Protocol Version from 2 to 0? (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status error (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 6, Unretryable error pass1 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus4 target 0 lun 0 pass1: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device pass1: Serial Number 20090516388200000 pass1: 40.000MB/s transfers (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY(10). CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 6, Unretryable error da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus4 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: Serial Number 20090516388200000 da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present ugen4.3: at usbus4 umass1: on usbus4 umass1: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x4000 umass1:5:1:-1: Attached to scbus5 pass2 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus5 target 0 lun 0 pass2: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device pass2: Serial Number 2821200085074C11 pass2: 40.000MB/s transfers da1 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus5 target 0 lun 0 da1: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: Serial Number 2821200085074C11 da1: 40.000MB/s transfers da1: 1985MB (4065280 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 253C) ugen4.4: at usbus4 ahcich0: Timeout on slot 0 ahcich0: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 00000000 rs 00000001 tfd 40 serr 00000000 ahcich0: AHCI reset... ahcich0: SATA connect time=0ms status=00000123 ahcich0: ready wait time=0ms ahcich0: AHCI reset done: device found (ada0:ahcich0:0:0:0): Command timed out (ada0:ahcich0:0:0:0): Retrying command GEOM: new disk da0 GEOM: new disk da1 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY(10). CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 6, Unretryable error Opened disk da0 -> 6 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY(10). CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 6, Unretryable error Opened disk da0 -> 6 GEOM: da1: media size does not match label. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/md0 ct_to_ts([2010-07-25 12:44:09]) = 1280061849.000000000 start_init: trying /sbin/init start_init: trying /sbin/oinit start_init: trying /sbin/init.bak start_init: trying /rescue/init start_init: trying /stand/sysinstall battery0: battery initialization failed, giving up ugen4.5: at usbus4 umass2: on usbus4 umass2: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0000 umass2:6:2:-1: Attached to scbus6 (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): Down reving Protocol Version from 2 to 0? (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): SCSI status error (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): SCSI sense: UNIT ATTENTION asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): Retrying command (per sense data) pass3 at umass-sim2 bus 2 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 pass3: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device pass3: Serial Number 35145307E35347F3 pass3: 40.000MB/s transfers GEOM: new disk da2 da2 at umass-sim2 bus 2 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 da2: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da2: Serial Number 35145307E35347F3 da2: 40.000MB/s transfers da2: 7663MB (15695871 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 977C) GEOM: da2s1: geometry does not match label (128h,63s != 255h,63s). ugen4.5: at usbus4 (disconnected) umass2: at uhub4, port 1, addr 5 (disconnected) (da2:umass-sim2:2:0:0): lost device (da2:umass-sim2:2:0:0): removing device entry (pass3:umass-sim2:2:0:0): lost device (pass3:umass-sim2:2:0:0): removing device entry ugen4.5: at usbus4 umass2: on usbus4 umass2: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0000 umass2:6:2:-1: Attached to scbus6 (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): Down reving Protocol Version from 2 to 0? (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): SCSI status error (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): SCSI sense: UNIT ATTENTION asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): Retrying command (per sense data) (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): SCSI status error (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): SCSI sense: UNIT ATTENTION asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): Retrying command (per sense data) pass3 at umass-sim2 bus 2 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 pass3: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device pass3: Serial Number 35145307E35347F3 pass3: 40.000MB/s transfers GEOM: new disk da2 da2 at umass-sim2 bus 2 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 da2: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da2: Serial Number 35145307E35347F3 da2: 40.000MB/s transfers da2: 7663MB (15695871 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 977C) ugen4.2: at usbus4 (disconnected) umass0: at uhub4, port 4, addr 2 (disconnected) (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): lost device (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): removing device entry (pass1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): lost device (pass1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): removing device entry ugen4.2: at usbus4 umass0: on usbus4 umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0000 umass0:4:0:-1: Attached to scbus4 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Down reving Protocol Version from 2 to 0? (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status error (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 6, Unretryable error pass1 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus4 target 0 lun 0 pass1: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device pass1: Serial Number 20090516388200000 pass1: 40.000MB/s transfers GEOM: new disk da0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY(10). CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 6, Unretryable error da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus4 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: Serial Number 20090516388200000 da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY(10). CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 6, Unretryable error Opened disk da0 -> 6 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY(10). CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 6, Unretryable error Opened disk da0 -> 6 --------------040205070608060603040802 Content-Type: text/plain; name="pciconf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="pciconf" hostb0@pci0:0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0xff601179 chip=0xa0108086 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0xff601179 chip=0xa0118086 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 class = display subclass = VGA vgapci1@pci0:0:2:1: class=0x038000 card=0xff601179 chip=0xa0128086 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 class = display none0@pci0:0:27:0: class=0x040300 card=0xff601179 chip=0x27d88086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 class = multimedia subclass = HDA pcib1@pci0:0:28:0: class=0x060400 card=0xff601179 chip=0x27d08086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x01 class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib2@pci0:0:28:1: class=0x060400 card=0xff601179 chip=0x27d28086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x01 class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib3@pci0:0:28:2: class=0x060400 card=0xff601179 chip=0x27d48086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x01 class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI uhci0@pci0:0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0xff601179 chip=0x27c88086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci1@pci0:0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0xff601179 chip=0x27c98086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci2@pci0:0:29:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0xff601179 chip=0x27ca8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci3@pci0:0:29:3: class=0x0c0300 card=0xff601179 chip=0x27cb8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 class = serial bus subclass = USB ehci0@pci0:0:29:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0xff601179 chip=0x27cc8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 class = serial bus subclass = USB pcib4@pci0:0:30:0: class=0x060401 card=0xff601179 chip=0x24488086 rev=0xe2 hdr=0x01 class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI isab0@pci0:0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0xff601179 chip=0x27bc8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 class = bridge subclass = PCI-ISA ahci0@pci0:0:31:2: class=0x010601 card=0xff601179 chip=0x27c18086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 class = mass storage subclass = SATA none1@pci0:0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0xff601179 chip=0x27da8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 class = serial bus subclass = SMBus ath0@pci0:7:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0xe8111113 chip=0x002b168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 class = network re0@pci0:9:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0xff601179 chip=0x813610ec rev=0x05 hdr=0x00 class = network subclass = ethernet --------------040205070608060603040802 Content-Type: text/plain; name="vmstat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="vmstat" interrupt total rate irq1: atkbd0 1572 1 irq9: acpi0 572 0 irq23: uhci0 ehci0 2111 1 cpu0: timer 2916673 1999 irq256: re0 2868 1 irq257: ahci0 126 0 cpu1: timer 2916486 1998 Total 5840408 4003 --------------040205070608060603040802-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 05:55:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4121065672 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 05:55:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5744C8FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 05:55:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.205]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:54:06 -0700 Message-ID: <4C4BD1B0.5080606@comclark.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:54:56 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bf1783@gmail.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jul 2010 05:54:06.0562 (UTC) FILETIME=[CB0CD420:01CB2BBD] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: searching INDEX in .sh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 05:55:01 -0000 b. f. wrote: >> I'm looking for a snippet of .sh type shell code that searches the >> /usr/ports/INDEX-8 file for dependents. >> >> Just a pointer to a script in the ports system that has this would be >> helpful > > Do you mean that, given port A, you want to find all ports that need > port A in order to be fetched, extracted, patched, built or installed? > Or do you want to find all ports that are needed to fetch, extract, > patch, build or install port A? If the former, you could look at the > parts of ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk that are used by running `make -C > $PORTSDIR search bdeps= > display=name,path`, and `make -C $PORTSDIR search rdeps= PKGNAME of port A here> display=name,path`. If the latter, look at > the parts of ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk that are used by running `make -C > pretty-print-run-depends > pretty-print-build-depends`. Also, parts of the ports-mgmt/portmaster > script used with --index-only may have similar functionality. > > And do you mean to only use the INDEX? Or are you able to use parts > of the port tree? Or the pkg_info utility? > I just found /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/postsearch which uses the /usr/ports/INDEX-8 file as its source to search. This is a perl script but can be used from within in .sh script. Been playing with it and see a big inconsistence in how ports list build-deps and run-deps. Some ports list no build-deps just run-deps and vise-versa and some have same listed list in both. Thinking I will have to take both the build and run deps lists and sort them together and drop dups to create a good list of dependents to allow for the lax enforcement of standards in the Makefile about how to list the ports dependents. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 06:21:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F72F1065675; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 06:21:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antoniok.spb@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9F68FC08; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 06:21:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so6157470fxm.13 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:21:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=9AfpKPYpbv/X9QNNTuHACSfBgPuLEWO+LFQ3Cq95RGQ=; b=A1z42LcO7ihiS1U5VZVtlndhLybkOcSXf7SU0pGSRkUQFYZQm1w+PuP0J/Ba0w+E/Q J9o9a9xvVDFS1gOmEnN0r9FMnsu+fKK0yjztMf0M+d5aeT9GFCbZYQjSuiKyjVLIMDjj DOjGiXqyKmThj3J3lOVTLpzfE2PxFgTADP6dU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=RKuSbbumbFKoi5kD72y+3P0zs9DKFVQjF5ZMTLkWb6l4FkNqWqOIs9aU74DsPH5rvH ps0HMQHUfixgwGXmhFQMY6XsuSGglFG0aHnAIln7s/kI1sdk1as9/KgNgOS2a/ngk/vQ 7v8SXi/Hskf8NqQj1smboqhLA7D6Nfsbttjaw= Received: by 10.239.175.143 with SMTP id n15mr161856hbf.134.1280038911205; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:21:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.181.76 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:21:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Antonio Kless Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:21:31 +0400 Message-ID: To: Randy Belk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-Ports Subject: Re: freecolor: Bus error. software or hardware problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 06:21:54 -0000 So, is it port trouble? -- Best regards, Antonio Kless, http://kless.spb.ru/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 08:01:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396CC1065670 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428898FC13 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o6P80xDG063802 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 01:00:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o6P80xHl063801; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 01:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA15357; Sun, 25 Jul 10 00:57:09 PDT Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:57:14 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: sterling@camdensoftware.com Message-Id: <4c4bee5a.FbeaX7BIKcgmxnfL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <20100724174634.GE50085@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <20100724174634.GE50085@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:01:02 -0000 Chip Camden wrote: > Personally, I like the devilish association, however indirect > it may be. FreeBSD is somewhat counter-cultural and anti- > authoritarian, after all. This discussion has drifted badly OT, but I feel compelled to point out that Christ Himself was very counter-cultural and anti- authoritarian for His time. That's what got Him crucified, no? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 08:01:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594D41065676 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:01:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655618FC17 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:01:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o6P80wPi063797 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 01:00:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o6P80wQi063796; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 01:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA15343; Sun, 25 Jul 10 00:51:28 PDT Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:51:33 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: aiza21@comclark.com Message-Id: <4c4bed05.tYqnJdFAA69cOp9f%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4C4BD1B0.5080606@comclark.com> In-Reply-To: <4C4BD1B0.5080606@comclark.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: searching INDEX in .sh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:01:26 -0000 Aiza wrote: > ... see a big inconsistence in how ports list build-deps > and run-deps. Some ports list no build-deps just run-deps > and vise-versa and some have same listed list in both. None of these is necessarily wrong. A port consisting solely of a Perl script would have no build-deps -- there's nothing to build -- but it would have a run-dep on perl. A port which uses no shared libs outside the base would have no run-deps, but it might have a build-dep on a compiler if written in a language whose compiler isn't part of the base. > Thinking I will have to take both the build and run deps lists > and sort them together and drop dups to create a good list of > dependents to allow for the lax enforcement of standards in the > Makefile about how to list the ports dependents. If you're only going to build the port (to create a package to be installed elsewhere) you don't need the run-deps. If you're only going to run it (having built it elsewhere) you don't need the build-deps. If you're going to build/install/run on the same system you need both the build-deps and the run-deps, but after the build has finished you can delete any build-deps that aren't also run-deps. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 09:13:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A811065679 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 09:13:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D070B8FC12 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 09:12:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6P9CrdZ043392 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:12:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C4C000E.8080700@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:12:46 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 25/07/2010 03:58:29, Aiza wrote: > I'm looking for a snippet of .sh type shell code that searches the > /usr/ports/INDEX-8 file for dependents. >=20 > Just a pointer to a script in the ports system that has this would be > helpful. grep 'dependency-name' /usr/ports/INDEX.8 | grep -v '^dependency-name' If you don't want the whole INDEX line, add something like this to the above to extract specific columns: | cut -d '|' -f 1 Note that you want the dependency package name, not the directory name in the ports tree -- although most of the time they are the same, there are some important packages where that isn't the case, eg. databases/mysql51-server vs mysql-server-5.1.48 Actually, all you want is sufficient leading prefix from the package name to identify it uniquely, which usually, but not always, means you don't need to include the version number part This will include build dependencies as well as run- or lib- dependencies: if that's not what you want, then use cut(1) to get rid of the last two columns before passing the INDEX through grep(1) Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig2C6A38C85E133C7F5A10FA1D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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To: Aiza Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: searching INDEX in .sh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 09:35:28 -0000 On 7/25/10, Aiza wrote: > b. f. wrote: > I just found /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/postsearch which uses the > /usr/ports/INDEX-8 file as its source to search. This is a perl script > but can be used from within in .sh script. Ah, ok. I thought you wanted to use the Bourne shell and base system utilities only. > > Been playing with it and see a big inconsistence in how ports list > build-deps and run-deps. Some ports list no build-deps just run-deps and > vise-versa and some have same listed list in both. > > Thinking I will have to take both the build and run deps lists and sort > them together and drop dups to create a good list of dependents to allow > for the lax enforcement of standards in the Makefile about how to list > the ports dependents. As someone remarked, this is not necessarily inconsistent. The standards certainly aren't lax, although mistakes are occasionally made. And it is slightly complicated by the fact that the listing in the INDEX is recursive. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 10:08:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91CF1065673 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9111E8FC14 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:08:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.4/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id o6PA8DvY039386 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:08:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 168 Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842C48A43C for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:08:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix, from userid 2005) id 5E98383; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:08:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:08:12 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100725100812.GA8297@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 4C4C0D0D.008 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 4C4C0D0D.008/134.157.10.1/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/ Subject: Re: TexLive on FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:08:16 -0000 Anh Ky Huynh wrote: > Antonio Olivares wrote: > > > Sorry to ask about this since this has been beaten to death many > > times, but I *wonder* why FreeBSD does not have TeXLive as default > > tex installation? > > As TeXLive 2009 doesn't have binaries for FreeBSD ;) You can try TeXLive > 2008 instead. Maybe the problem is that TexLive is a monster (already teTex is a monster) that many long time TeX users don't want on their hard disk. Having TeXLive as a port would be nice, having it as the default TeX seems to me stupid. It means that installing any port which has a dependency on TeX would install this several hundred mega bytes monster for any one, even those who don't intend to use TeX in any way. Even most TeX users have no use for LuaTex and other niceties of TexLive. -- Michel TALON From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 11:21:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD1B1065673 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80AC8FC15 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:21:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6PBLsBO003259; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:21:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B3AA6BAAC; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:21:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:21:53 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Michel Talon Message-ID: <20100725112153.GA98965@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20100725100812.GA8297@lpthe.jussieu.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100725100812.GA8297@lpthe.jussieu.fr> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: TexLive on FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:21:56 -0000 --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 12:08:12PM +0200, Michel Talon wrote: > Anh Ky Huynh wrote: > > Antonio Olivares wrote: > >=20 > > > Sorry to ask about this since this has been beaten to death many > > > times, but I *wonder* why FreeBSD does not have TeXLive as default > > > tex installation? > >=20 > > As TeXLive 2009 doesn't have binaries for FreeBSD ;) You can try TeXLive > > 2008 instead. >=20 > Maybe the problem is that TexLive is a monster (already teTex is a > monster)=20 What other alternatives are there? teTeX is no longer being maintained. > that many long time TeX users don't want on their hard disk. Personally, as a long-time TeX user, I don't mind. On the contrary, I like = it that a lot of packages are included and preconfigured in TeXLive. > Having TeXLive as a port would be nice, having it as the default TeX > seems to me stupid. It means that installing any port which has a > dependency on TeX would install this several hundred mega bytes monster > for any one, even those who don't intend to use TeX in any way.=20 About half of the ports that depend on TeX are actually tools that use TeX. For most of the others it is optional, usually for building documentation. (Run 'find /usr/ports/ -type f -name Makefile -exec grep -Hi tetex {} \; | less' and see for yourself.) I would agree that most project would do better just to provide ready-built docs in PDF, HTML or text format rather than depend on TeX. > Even > most TeX users have no use for LuaTex and other niceties of TexLive. Then don't install them. The TeXLive installer is quite flexible. As for LuaTeX, that will become the default TeX engine over time, like pdfTeX is n= ow. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxMHlEACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVUGACfYCbL7AphMcSdzP6tT0NoLubT 5W4An0iD2+L2Zch5FC1LtkDZPcQuu9TC =73bj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 11:56:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB181065679 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:56:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645298FC26 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:56:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OczoR-0002BA-8g for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:56:11 +0200 Received: from 177.3.16.95.dynamic.jazztel.es ([95.16.3.177]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:56:11 +0200 Received: from matiassurdi by 177.3.16.95.dynamic.jazztel.es with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:56:11 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Matias Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:56:04 +0200 Lines: 13 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 177.3.16.95.dynamic.jazztel.es User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; es-ES; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 Subject: dummynet in 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:56:19 -0000 Hi, I've read in the release notes that ipfw and dummynet have been improved. I've wonder if with 8.1 will it be possible to bridge a VLAN Trunk and filter VLAN tagged frames (actually, send packets to a dummynet queue for traffic shapping). I've tried this with 8.0 but seems like ipfw does not understand vlan tagged frames. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 12:30:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AF01065673 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from nomoremozzie.com (nomoremozzie.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6E78FC1E for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:30:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([112.199.194.65]) (authenticated bits=0) by nomoremozzie.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o6PBtOKJ012119 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 05:55:26 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:55:22 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-STABLE; KDE/4.4.5; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201007251955.22663.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: Subject: growisofs gives random errors but never writes a DVD successfully X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:30:04 -0000 Hi, I am trying to get the DVD burner running on 8.1 The machine: 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #3: Sat Jul 24 20:56:05 SGT 2010 I have atapicam enabled. I lock HAL. Still, it seems I am missing something or there is a problem with my hardware. The command: hal-lock --interface org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage --udi /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_model_DVDRAM_GH22NS40 --run 'growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=4 -Z /dev/cd0=imagefile.iso' Executing 'builtin_dd if=imagefile.iso of=/dev/pass0 obs=32k seek=0' The output: Executing 'builtin_dd if=imagefile.iso of=/dev/pass0 obs=32k seek=0' /dev/pass0: "Current Write Speed" is 4.1x1352KBps. 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% :-( unable to WRITE@LBA=0h: Input/output error :-( write failed: Input/output error The output is random. It even claimed once to have the DVD finished. But the DVD is not mountable. As it was never used to burn, it also could be a hardware problem. Reading was not a problem on 8.0. Does anybody have any idea what I am missing? Erich PS: What I did: I added from the handbook atapicam according to the handbook: '18.6.9 Using the ATAPI/CAM Driver" I followed this advice: http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/halfaq.html#q6 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 12:51:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F3C106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454958FC18 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so1786120wyj.13 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 05:51:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bq0cgaNMgR62n19yTWD3k+05v9RolWXnP2gL0WYFqD0=; b=GpijJv/iJiRU9IHxcVgZqCr+bpmD7qrGdcTaQt7+6/vHCY9Ix54qhF10/pbP1p/q1H wI7hHzNr91WUTbmdGDNspc7cxlHmUoweKOYWh91XU/fiWkVgXU+7v74mbjXBUy9yhj6o aW3Wnipp2Fo9Z2zEVW32YzA+LZoVPl420NG+0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gNTTkypNYV2WMO3YiE+G+XqMYwqmRP+dImHWjDDPy1A2+Y7VRwH6ZYA+yIkOKxNE21 LVGsBsQ0RIC77gkt5dEP8e6SINNRnAQztkUjnIGkB3AMgOQlKG9510zbHpLDqhHxQZnE 8RIqin+7OauWDB8fvzqlmd4cCgttxddKpI7fc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.237.100 with SMTP id x78mr5935042weq.114.1280062271811; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 05:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.12.209 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 05:51:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201007240119.59873.fluffy@fluffy.khv.ru> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:51:11 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: [kde-freebsd] libiodbc build failure @ "configure" cmd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:51:13 -0000 for others who may have the same issue -> http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10316 you need to replace your "base". PS: after you replace your "base" distribution and reboot, you will notice the system will not load and you will have to issue "boot GENERIC" at the "boot>" prompt. The workaround for this is to issue "nextboot -k GENERIC" after you upgraded the "base" distribution and BEFORE you reboot. This was very handy to me, since the system that was damaged is ~700km away from me. Hope this helps someone > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 12:59:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FAF41065676 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:59:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624088FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o6PCx3dA074585; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:59:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o6PCx2fo074584; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:59:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:59:02 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-ID: <20100725125902.GB74521@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <20100724174634.GE50085@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <4c4bee5a.FbeaX7BIKcgmxnfL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4c4bee5a.FbeaX7BIKcgmxnfL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: sterling@camdensoftware.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:59:28 -0000 On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 12:57:14AM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Chip Camden wrote: > > > Personally, I like the devilish association, however indirect > > it may be. FreeBSD is somewhat counter-cultural and anti- > > authoritarian, after all. > > This discussion has drifted badly OT, but I feel compelled to > point out that Christ Himself was very counter-cultural and anti- > authoritarian for His time. That's what got Him crucified, no? You got it. Not that I think FreeBSD using a counter-cultural mascott image qualifies as a Christ act. But, who knows. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 13:08:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243C7106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF8D8FC0C for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:08:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so2380128iwn.13 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 06:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.31.135 with SMTP id y7mr7009149ibc.182.1280063324116; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 06:08:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.148.9 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 06:08:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Eitan Adler Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 09:08:22 -0400 Message-ID: To: "illoai@gmail.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: why do I require "WPA" in rc.conf even for open networks. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:08:46 -0000 > I use WPA and have no urge to run tests for someone else on this > right now, but are you sure something like > > ifconfig_wlan0="ssid ForteanJungle wepmode mixed wepkey 8675309 DHCP" > > doesn't work at all these days? I had ifconfig_wlan0="ssid MySSID DHCP" and attempted to connect to an OPEN network without being able to do so. When I added ifconfig_wlan0="ssid MySSID WPA DHCP" I was able to connect to the same network. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 13:17:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE05106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogreentechnologies.com) Received: from nomoremozzie.com (nomoremozzie.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D71C8FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([112.199.194.65]) (authenticated bits=0) by nomoremozzie.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o6PDHDTF023227; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 07:17:14 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: ALO Green Technologies Pte Ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Victor Skovorodnikov Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:17:11 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-STABLE; KDE/4.4.5; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201007252117.11952.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> Cc: Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:17:16 -0000 Hi, On Saturday 24 July 2010 10:01:07 Victor Skovorodnikov wrote: > > This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. Why such a logo for BSD? What is the > meaning of that logo? > > I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get deterred by its un-Christian > logo. > > Have you considered changing it to something else? Doesn't have to be an angel, but perhaps > something neutral ;-) ? do we none christians ask you to change the offending stuff related to this religion? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 14:21:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA841065678 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:21:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5868FC22 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so5748750wwe.31 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 07:21:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dZJBKqSsXQPaGs4hNDNwn1QORPnzHPK6Dp9Uu82SkjA=; b=oCCr3Z8CjmL344bYwejeh25LmHmMm58N+2U1Dzw/pQzY0YEV5W1RGCGcHe0DIxjZzH 1d7jd5kTSeTU328CEvXQ6/qiA+peNf263kSySjeNh1aNgeDkbEif7iCiZmq2cV3Iz+mz K2mFM6/asc7QxplxZnoV4+jsf1wt91IHMpy3c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=E1jUdadp4aFGgVAZWzY0NeNT0bmGR8Ly9W+w0SVU4q6k8DMtNuD5QJlxh5GalgoUm7 OzMWDH0ADJdVpq5nj6MgxBRJ1H88oR+Cf1EEBuKJ2KygjveedRwzDTtbfhjXXHl7hVYt xriCy/Ry34vGdHilL8qsL7sSge/MZZ2faFNys= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.70.200 with SMTP id p50mr6100978wed.54.1280067698220; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 07:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.12.209 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 07:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:21:38 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: how does freebsd know which kernel to boot ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:21:40 -0000 hello ppl, I was wondering about the following: After I do "make build|install kernel" and reboot, the new kernel is automatically booted but the old one is still on the disk. Therefore, how does FreeBSD know which one to boot ? I'm guessing it's writing this info somewhere but I do not know where or how. Can anyone give me some short description ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 14:22:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A0C106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:22:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Kevin@RawFedDogs.net) Received: from Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net (Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net [64.251.15.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C128FC2D for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:22:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cpe-24-162-130-63.hot.res.rr.com ([24.162.130.63] helo=Blaidd-Drwg.RawFedDogs.net) by Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Od1XQ-000NKX-GK for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:46:45 -0500 Received: by Blaidd-Drwg.RawFedDogs.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 876C0DD4797; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:47:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:47:30 -0500 From: Kevin Monceaux To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100725134730.GA5685@RawFedDogs.net> References: <20100724185925.GA69480@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20100724214725.GA82251@guilt.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100724214725.GA82251@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 24.162.130.63 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: Kevin@RawFedDogs.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Kevin Monceaux List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:22:39 -0000 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 03:47:25PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: =20 > Actually, "daemon" is a Latinization of the Greek "daimon". Daimon is > pronounced something more like "die-mahn", but (being from the Latin) > daemon is prounounced "dee-mohn". Unix tradition holds that "daemon" i= s > pronounced similarly to the Latin fashion (in practice, roughly like > "dee-muhn" by English speakers). I guess that depends on which period of Latin one studies. From Latin Pronunciation Demystified: http://www.ai.uga.edu/mc/latinpro.pdf ae like English ai in aisle Which is how I pronounce ae in Latin. On the other hand, I've always pronounced daemon like day-mohn, probably from hearing Jon Pertwee pronounce it that way in the Doctor Who episode The D=E6mons. --=20 Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!=20 Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 14:44:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2120C1065679 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rm16@rambler.ru) Received: from mxa.rambler.ru (mxa.rambler.ru [81.19.66.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA3B8FC17 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mcgi20.rambler.ru (mcgi20.rambler.ru [81.19.67.53]) by mxa.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id E42169E5E7 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:25:42 +0400 (MSD) Received: from mcgi20.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi20.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD47B889 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:25:41 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [178.94.17.44] by mcgi20.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:25:39 +0400 From: =?UTF-8?B?w5DCkMOQwr3DkMK0w5HCgMOQwrXDkMK5IMOQwpo=?= =?UTF-8?B?w5DCvsOQwrfDkMKww5HCgMOQwrXDkMK9w5DCusOQwr4=?= To: Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:25:39 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Message-Id: <95338132.1280067939.157911440.81491@mcgi20.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru Subject: kde 4.3.1 dont loading X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:44:43 -0000 hi, after installing nvidia driver at FreeBSD 8.0, Kde 4.3.1 don't loading after login screen, and when input username and password - login screen reload. Before installing nvidia driver, kde 4.3.1 load ok. Who know how decide this problem? Help please. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 14:49:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB951065680 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:49:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from free163@rambler.ru) Received: from mxa.rambler.ru (mxa.rambler.ru [81.19.66.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19B48FC21 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:49:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mcgi56.rambler.ru (mcgi56.rambler.ru [81.19.67.73]) by mxa.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D0D8A908 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:39:48 +0400 (MSD) Received: from mcgi56.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi56.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D6211427 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:39:47 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [178.94.17.44] by mcgi56.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:39:45 +0400 From: Dima Bui To: Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:39:45 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Message-Id: <86065491.1280068785.171367640.48868@mcgi56.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru Subject: kde 4.3.1 dont loading X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:49:41 -0000 hi, after installing nvidia driver at FreeBSD 8.0, Kde 4.3.1 don't loading after login screen, and when input username and password - login screen reload. Before installing nvidia driver, kde 4.3.1 load ok. Who know how decide this problem? Help please. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 14:54:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12AF41065670 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:54:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from free163@rambler.ru) Received: from mxa.rambler.ru (mxa.rambler.ru [81.19.66.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38AE8FC20 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:54:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mcgi-wr-9.rambler.ru (mcgi-wr-9.rambler.ru [10.32.5.9]) by mxa.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id C178E34F367 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:37:32 +0400 (MSD) Received: from mcgi-wr-9.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi-wr-9.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5185B84A for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:37:32 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [178.94.17.44] by mcgi-wr-9.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:37:27 +0400 From: Dima Bui To: Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:37:27 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Message-Id: <728783277.1280068647.92737368.5467@mcgi-wr-9.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru Subject: free163@rambler.ru X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:54:42 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 15:07:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7FA106567A for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:07:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7DEF8FC20 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:07:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-179-206.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.179.206]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75FA3D7A2; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:07:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o6PF73Sn002180; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:07:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:07:03 +0200 From: Polytropon To: claudiu vasadi Message-Id: <20100725170703.2ca935d9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how does freebsd know which kernel to boot ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:07:06 -0000 On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:21:38 +0200, claudiu vasadi wrote: > hello ppl, > > > I was wondering about the following: > > After I do "make build|install kernel" and reboot, the new kernel is > automatically booted but the old one is still on the disk. Therefore, how > does FreeBSD know which one to boot ? > > I'm guessing it's writing this info somewhere but I do not know where or > how. > > > > Can anyone give me some short description ? The kernel is booted by the kernel loader. Its configuration is in /boot/loader.conf and /boot/default/loader.conf. It will default to "kernel" (the name of the kernel to boot) by default, but you can specify another name, too. You can also interrupt the boot and request a different than the default kernel; using the "nextboot" can achieve similar results. Upon kernel installation by "make installkernel", the existing kernel will be moved to kernel.old; the newly installed kernel will then be kernel, and the loader will load exactly this name as before. Interesting man pages are: % man loader % man loader.conf % man nextboot % man boot % less /boot/defaults/loader.conf -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 15:54:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACDD31065672 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:54:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E9D8FC0C for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:54:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so1654566qyk.13 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:54:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.19.197 with SMTP id c5mr5136213qab.219.1280073277203; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.229.53.207 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:54:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8279E0B1-B1ED-49AF-BB8F-15CEA104821A@gull.us> References: <8279E0B1-B1ED-49AF-BB8F-15CEA104821A@gull.us> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:54:37 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3c5STv_hd9BUWM4YQ9CqgJQbc7Y Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: David Brodbeck Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:54:38 -0000 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:11 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: > > On Jul 24, 2010, at 7:33 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote: >> >> I am not a religious man myself, but if the logo had any religious >> meaning to me I am sure I could better understand Victor's issues. >> Seems silly, but if it was the other way around I'm sure _many_ people >> here would probably concur in the discomfort of using an OS who's logo >> was some sort of religion symbol, say a Christian Cross, Egyptian >> Ankh, David Star, Muslim Moon, or a Satanic Encircled Five Point Star. > > Well, to me it's about intent. > > I doubt the FreeBSD logo was picked with the intent of sticking a thumb i= n > the eye of anyone religious. =A0I also think it's pretty clear it wasn't > picked by someone who identified with Satanism. > > On the other hand, if someone uses a Jesus Fish or a cross as a logo, > they're usually trying to make a political point. =A0*That* would make me > uncomfortable -- not the symbol itself, but the sentiment I knew was behi= nd > it. Precisely my point. But it's hard to overcome our judgements in order to evaluate a problem 'objectively', because there is no such thing per se in philosophical matters, but rather it's the more subjective points of view you have, the more objective you become. So my point in all this is that at first it sounds really hilarious from the modern/western science-man perspective (the general population of the project and this mailing list), but as you stated previously we would immediately react to a symbol if that symbol to us represented an intention/sentiment/political statement _regardless_ of the actual intention. Suppose for a moment that BSD would have forked to FBSD first in the East, say by a group of Indian Buddhist computer science students, and their choice of logo was a funny cartoon of a smiling Buddha holding a Swastika above it's head. The intention here would matter little to the common Jew, as he would probably feel immediately uncomfortable regardless if he knew what the Buddha was, or that the Swastika is a sacred Buddhist symbol. He would just see a semi-naked fat Nazi. Even if he knew all these things it would still make him somewhat uncomfortable of using this great technology. Again, my intention to butt in here was just to point out that many times we find things hilarious, a simple analogy can help us better understand that it may very serious to others, such is life though, and the 'others' should also make an effort to understand us. Sadly, our judgements almost always get in the way of seeing beyond each other's myopic viewpoint. Back to the issue at hand (and actually on-topic), I personally don't like the circle with cones and don't think that FBSD should move away from the little red Devil or Daemon or whatever you wanna call it (does he have a name?). In _my_ judgment, for example, the circle with cones looks like some sort of sexual fetish, but then again we're all free to interpret it as we like, and who am I, as a relative newcomer to FBSD to form an opinion anyway :) Best, Alejandro Imass > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 16:05:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72DD10656B1 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fb-questions@psconsult.nl) Received: from mx1.psconsult.nl (psc11.adsl.iaf.nl [80.89.238.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A8A8FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:05:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.psconsult.nl (psc11.adsl.iaf.nl [80.89.238.138]) by mx1.psconsult.nl (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6PFdP3i069422 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:39:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fb-questions@psconsult.nl) Received: (from paul@localhost) by mx1.psconsult.nl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o6PFdPch069421 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:39:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fb-questions@psconsult.nl) X-Authentication-Warning: mx1.psconsult.nl: paul set sender to fb-questions@psconsult.nl using -f Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:39:25 +0200 From: Paul Schenkeveld To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100725153925.GA69210@psconsult.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: Looking for PCI/PCIe AHCI controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:05:05 -0000 Hi, My fileserver has grown beyond the 6 SATA drives supported by my Intel DP35DP mainboard. When I add a SATA port multiplier I see a dramatic decrease in throughput compared to directly connected SATA disks (not a big surprise, although the combined throughput is way below 3 Gbit/s). So now I am looking for an add-in SATA card that is supported by the FreeBSD ahci(4) driver. I don't need HW RAID support on the card as I'm running ZFS. I have PCI and PCIe (x1) slots free. I tried a Promise TX4 but that one appears as an ata(4) card and not as an ahci(4) card. Any ideas? Thanks a lot! Paul Schenkeveld From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 16:07:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB241065674 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:07:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikola.lecic@anthesphoria.net) Received: from anthesphoria.net (anthesphoria.net [200.46.204.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071E68FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:07:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter Received: from black.localhost (dynamic-213-198-219-151.adsl.eunet.rs [213.198.219.151]) (authenticated bits=0) by anthesphoria.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6PG6xaB078142 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:07:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nikola.lecic@anthesphoria.net) Message-Id: <201007251607.o6PG6xaB078142@anthesphoria.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:05:49 +0200 From: Nikola =?UTF-8?B?TGXEjWnEhw==?= To: Antonio Olivares In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.2; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7-STABLE X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: FEF3 66AF C90E EDC3 D878 7CDC 956D F4AB A377 1C9B X-OpenPGP-Preferred-Keyserver: x-hkp://pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwCAMAAABg3Am1AAAAP1BMVEW/o5oJFQugmIt8gnhy bWEZJSRHRjqzlI0hIhcsHhd7X1RbWlLe3dWOgXZhWUY0Mye0t6sODgj5//8pOEOcfnVQ+D28 AAACWElEQVRIidWV3XLrIAyEbZAF5p/E7/+sZwVx46bgaS+PZpJedD+kRUJZHn+M5X8Cwq+B EIlzZkuqDKAfQEhr7bGu1Xr1yXwC1KUQyweRyi1A9QSsxL7XyuUGiG99RjAnzjWXKaCavp2d OSEoEeVqywQIu8jbyZDHVyRUFcYAteO7nKipF6VU+pbiApRejlSeknMxqh44Jw0BOgsSuXOH AMuyqGivvi8A1070BO44TgC21QjIJ8AtgxOgETgphZ9AsN3zd8B0gAcZvoB8AmLbmEWlObBa GSJclADJs/finNY5ALnMRkaOlLdty0wNoKnp1UK2rrs7nE/J+0RRGjG8JXiToX4+t7UCiP75 fHKSDNdWX4Bo26RuAlTcEUFPCSZo5yGgANhqt5ytlHSQ99S67TINSypn52wr6ZDhM2iEOZwJ IyAwElT0AX8EAHEY9MGYwzyGgG8J9l2epsxSBNT1yxBo47pDjATsDtMBSbFMAHkQO+Ll4Uiu AWYKPKSmPct4VHZEyjk5Hvc1fnH9UcM0gG33USsNwhi102MGZEmADNYzRa010YEHdN0BH3sJ 0yFdwDfmlCKRRue0ekwB3BO2MDxn77A2vG9AmAOh1k08c58KFIXRuFuVuKe2iPFM2xg1INwB eEWwgHeDDFEyaH2/vWFbfhYE0K8Id0DBxKKkbXsDHwl+9KGvewBe2gB98WoOpPO3aoVrL4wq uvrZtRJ/6VexLfJSdGY9Bri+9dWyeCgCYPvr0fD5egJtmLif34HNvo28ALanXu40S0FdX6CX f+bwmeG38WfgH6BpgKIbq96MAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-RIPEMD160; boundary="Sig_/nFWRaMv5VXjsFb60Q3kX3CC"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: TexLive on FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:07:05 -0000 --Sig_/nFWRaMv5VXjsFb60Q3kX3CC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:51:55 +0000 Antonio Olivares wrote: =20 [...] > Don't want to add insult to injury or offend anyone, I just want to > see how installing texlive on FreeBSD can be made easier? TeX Live 2010 will support FreeBSD (i386 and amd64). It will work out of the box for FreeBSD 7 and 8. The TL development tree is frozen now and the release will be out during summer. If you can't wait, you can use TeX Live 2010 pretest, it's pretty stable and most likely identical to the release: http://tug.org/texlive/pretest.html If you need binaries for FreeBSD<=3D6, please visit these pages: http://anthesphoria.net/FreeBSD/TeXLive-Devel/bin-r19416/ (r19416 is TL2010 build). A reply to all people that wrote about how big TL is: TeX Live is a _distribution_, not a single piece of software. It has its own package manager, tlpkg. You can use it to remove anything you don't need after install. The TL installer supports installing various "schemes". If you need a minimal TeX, you can choose scheme "minimal", it's actually much smaller than teTeX. Please read TL Guide, it's very useful and can answer all your questions: http://www.tug.org/texlive/doc/texlive-en/ Best wishes, --=20 Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87 =3D =D0=9D=D0=B8=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=B0 =D0=9B=D0= =B5=D1=87=D0=B8=D1=9B fingerprint : FEF3 66AF C90E EDC3 D878 7CDC 956D F4AB A377 1C9B ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --Sig_/nFWRaMv5VXjsFb60Q3kX3CC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iJwEAQEDAAYFAkxMYOEACgkQ/MM/0rYIoZhOxQP9GO92wjPyOg7rlogfnD9if22P j8IHnWzJloZz6txfa27TQtElK7bwspSFqLlHOM1p32d3+C5+2ocyMptfDh1xDTCC LF8PWoojhr3RiIZbNluPqmqgJQnL/eWplyl8+/QNDDJQ1nVdUbd/y80KyjZcKH0A 8bxXa+PcjsR/6kglVW4= =kxpx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/nFWRaMv5VXjsFb60Q3kX3CC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 16:48:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437611065672 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:48:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57138FC15 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:48:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o6PGlwnO041680; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:47:58 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:47:58 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Matias In-Reply-To: <20100725120022.D21651065697@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20100726022034.C62748@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20100725120022.D21651065697@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dummynet in 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:48:01 -0000 Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 320, Issue 18, Message: 7 On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:56:04 +0200 Matias wrote: > I've read in the release notes that ipfw and dummynet have been improved. > > I've wonder if with 8.1 will it be possible to bridge a VLAN Trunk and > filter VLAN tagged frames (actually, send packets to a dummynet queue > for traffic shapping). > > I've tried this with 8.0 but seems like ipfw does not understand vlan > tagged frames. Try the freebsd-ipfw list; they're likely too busy to read this one .. perhaps with more detail of what you want to do, and what you've tried. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 17:04:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6CE106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:04:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47F18FC18 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mdt-xp.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6PH48G4099063; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:04:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <201007251704.o6PH48G4099063@lava.sentex.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:04:02 -0400 To: Paul Schenkeveld , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: <20100725153925.GA69210@psconsult.nl> References: <20100725153925.GA69210@psconsult.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: Looking for PCI/PCIe AHCI controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:04:11 -0000 At 11:39 AM 7/25/2010, Paul Schenkeveld wrote: >Hi, >So now I am looking for an add-in SATA card that is supported by >the FreeBSD ahci(4) driver. I don't need HW RAID support on the >card as I'm running ZFS. I have PCI and PCIe (x1) slots free. I am using an SiL based card to add 4 more drives to my array that works quite well siis0@pci0:8:0:0: class=0x010400 card=0x71321095 chip=0x31321095 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Silicon Image Inc (Was: CMD Technology Inc)' device = 'PCI Express (1x) to 2 Port SATA300 (SiI 3132)' class = mass storage subclass = RAID cap 01[54] = powerspec 2 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 cap 05[5c] = MSI supports 1 message, 64 bit cap 10[70] = PCI-Express 1 legacy endpoint max data 128(1024) link x1(x1) I bought it from http://www.addonics.com/ ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 17:27:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDAF71065676 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:27:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C5A398FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:27:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7042 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jul 2010 17:27:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 2010 17:27:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=XkAHe92BLvSE2XcY7dKyemtF9ZdpHSLqQL/sfcC7jXt1ZmdtITDMOgC9eZqjw0xHoyU0S24OnUqlTygL+o9ll1bn5rd912PHj5qc78AV61+YNrN1farxMSEiZcCS1lJg; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Od4z4-0002c7-3D for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:27:31 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:25:38 -0600 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:25:38 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100725172538.GA85893@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <8279E0B1-B1ED-49AF-BB8F-15CEA104821A@gull.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:27:32 -0000 --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:54:37AM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: >=20 > Suppose for a moment that BSD would have forked to FBSD first in the > East, say by a group of Indian Buddhist computer science students, and > their choice of logo was a funny cartoon of a smiling Buddha holding a > Swastika above it's head. The intention here would matter little to > the common Jew, as he would probably feel immediately uncomfortable > regardless if he knew what the Buddha was, or that the Swastika is a > sacred Buddhist symbol. He would just see a semi-naked fat Nazi. Even > if he knew all these things it would still make him somewhat > uncomfortable of using this great technology. Here's the thing . . . The "jesus fish" (or "holy mackerel" or "Ichthys" or whatever you want to call it) has no variance of meaning across cultures, when it contains the Greek letters =CE=99=CE=A7=CE=98=CE=A5=CE=A3 -- because it really only exis= ts within one extended cultural family. Its meaning is clear. I'm not aware of any other meaning for the mere intersecting-arcs fish symbol itself, without the Greek letters, either -- but I wouldn't necessarily jump to any conclusions about it without trying to look it up and, failing that, asking about it (with clear reference to the fact that I tried and failed to look up any meanings aside from the obvious). Meanwhile, swastikas have many meanings, in many cultures. They have different meanings from the Nazi usage in parts of Asia, North America, and even in Germany itself. The Nazis got it *somewhere* you know; they didn't invent it. Context matters. I'd think a devout Christian would have much more reason to complain about a Flying Spaghetti Monster (whose only purpose is to mock mystical belief systems) than a Daemon, and that an Orthodox Jew would have much more reason to complain about SS lightning bolts than a non-diagonal swastika held aloft by a smiling Buddha. Considering we now have the Internet at our disposal, I'm not terribly inclined to give a lot of leeway to people who ask for symbols like a Buddhist swastika to be changed without having gone to the minimal trouble to look it up on Wikipedia. In truth, even the Hakenkreuz (the swastika variant the Nazis use) is not strictly negative in meaning; it was a Germanic folk symbol before it was misappropriated by the Nazis, and it has not *lost* that previous meaning just because it has gained strong negative associations to those who do not know its full history. Place it in a white circle on a red field, though, and as far as I'm concerned you have every right to be disturbed to see it associated with something you might otherwise like -- because that is quite clearly a Nazi-specific context. The same goes for the Nazi Party's parteiadler, depicting a stylized eagle atop a wreathed hakenkreuz. >=20 > Again, my intention to butt in here was just to point out that many > times we find things hilarious, a simple analogy can help us better > understand that it may very serious to others, such is life though, > and the 'others' should also make an effort to understand us. Sadly, > our judgements almost always get in the way of seeing beyond each > other's myopic viewpoint. The fact that someone misunderstands something that can be double-checked with trivial effort (far less effort than complaining on this mailing list), and uses that misunderstanding to justify complaints and trying to convince someone to change a mascot with years of history, seems in no way justified to me. For me, the key difference is not anyone's biases, per se -- it's willful ignorance, which I am never inclined to justify or excuse, in principle. >=20 > Back to the issue at hand (and actually on-topic), I personally don't > like the circle with cones and don't think that FBSD should move away > from the little red Devil or Daemon or whatever you wanna call it > (does he have a name?). In _my_ judgment, for example, the circle with > cones looks like some sort of sexual fetish, but then again we're all > free to interpret it as we like, and who am I, as a relative newcomer > to FBSD to form an opinion anyway :) The mascot's name is Beastie (roughly homonymous with BSD). Of course, Beastie is *not* actually a FreeBSD symbol, per se: he's a BSD Unix symbol in general. The first sentence of the Wikipedia page for "Beastie (Mascot)" says "The BSD daemon, nicknamed Beastie, is the generic mascot of BSD operating systems."[1] The sex toy logo doesn't do anything for me, but it is at least a FreeBSD-specific symbol, and I guess I'm willing to suffer the indignity of having a kind of dumb, largely meaningless symbol, if it means FreeBSD actually gets a symbol at all. My biggest complaint with the sex toy symbol is that it doesn't lend itself easily to simplification a logo really should. Basically, if it isn't easily well-represented in a 16px monochrome presentation, it should be rethought, in my opinion. It has been made official, though, and I'm not sure the problems I've identified are sufficient to overturn the apple cart at this point. I'll live with it. --- [1]: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Beastie_(mascot) --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxMc5IACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKV91ACg9BTdpnc43CgyXKyEnkmRnq6i scIAnA+eW+5ibJka6h7YakOSX/dK0kls =N/cH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 17:31:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A2B1065678 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:31:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B79478FC15 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:31:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10607 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jul 2010 17:31:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 2010 17:31:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=eAtGuMNE1SR/ef8n7KvuC42812hiikfkoS489Bv8F5GeN8O1ePXvGht4shLKQCMS2D+zVsa1CXi80ENdBLt6SMYEHwZ4OBZO3S078d47QQViVak2tozpRd5O7DjqUd38; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Od52u-0000Qk-Sg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:31:29 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:29:37 -0600 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:29:37 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100725172937.GB85893@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100724185925.GA69480@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20100724214725.GA82251@guilt.hydra> <20100725134730.GA5685@RawFedDogs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wq9mPyueHGvFACwf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100725134730.GA5685@RawFedDogs.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:31:30 -0000 --wq9mPyueHGvFACwf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 08:47:30AM -0500, Kevin Monceaux wrote: > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 03:47:25PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > =20 > > Actually, "daemon" is a Latinization of the Greek "daimon". Daimon is > > pronounced something more like "die-mahn", but (being from the Latin) > > daemon is prounounced "dee-mohn". Unix tradition holds that "daemon" is > > pronounced similarly to the Latin fashion (in practice, roughly like > > "dee-muhn" by English speakers). >=20 > I guess that depends on which period of Latin one studies. From Latin > Pronunciation Demystified: >=20 > http://www.ai.uga.edu/mc/latinpro.pdf >=20 > ae like English ai in aisle >=20 > Which is how I pronounce ae in Latin. On the other hand, I've always > pronounced daemon like day-mohn, probably from hearing Jon Pertwee > pronounce it that way in the Doctor Who episode The D=E6mons. Without downloading a PDF and reading it . . . do you know what Latin variant is used in that document? Is it classical, church, or scientifically bastardized Latin (for instance)? I'm curious. I know that in at least some contexts the Latin pronunciation is more "dee" than "dai" for daemon, and that "dee" is the pronunciation generally considered "correct" for server processes in Unix systems. Beyond that, it's entirely possible there are other pronunciations of which I am not aware -- though I'm pretty sure "day" is solely an artifact of people trying to figure out how to pronounce terms that contain the ae (or the =E6 ligature) without actually trying to look it up. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --wq9mPyueHGvFACwf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxMdIEACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXfawCgybrxbpE2POLwks1h04CsRJa3 B3AAnR0RppJOdesQwZHCmN/pNtn9MQhE =8ocr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wq9mPyueHGvFACwf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 17:33:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F121065674 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CB5358FC1A for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:33:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 12067 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jul 2010 17:33:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 2010 17:33:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=QbRS1ZEyTcqlZ2jp/YNGB2zncpjv6/bQu2th16aDKpEnJnGGs0yXL/S7L/xB+jBoNvL/MmW1p4bIBZtQtHrU02DEjKDaSPKhUSPzbrw7sgVZe0QPNyotzi7eR+2age6s; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Od54x-0003Au-C7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:33:36 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:31:43 -0600 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:31:43 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100725173143.GC85893@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <20100724174634.GE50085@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <4c4bee5a.FbeaX7BIKcgmxnfL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oJ71EGRlYNjSvfq7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4c4bee5a.FbeaX7BIKcgmxnfL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:33:37 -0000 --oJ71EGRlYNjSvfq7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 12:57:14AM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Chip Camden wrote: >=20 > > Personally, I like the devilish association, however indirect > > it may be. FreeBSD is somewhat counter-cultural and anti- > > authoritarian, after all. >=20 > This discussion has drifted badly OT, but I feel compelled to > point out that Christ Himself was very counter-cultural and anti- > authoritarian for His time. That's what got Him crucified, no? Too bad his legacy is, in effect, authoritarianism and mainstream cultural reinforcement -- including people bleating about some symbol they misunderstand, and how it offends their willfully ignorant, idolatrist sensitibilities. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --oJ71EGRlYNjSvfq7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxMdP8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKU2NQCgxvoxpq4E07ZHumD4AfI2ueWO yVIAn1ZFa0QFw1xhVIN4KXmchNde+AFc =g5Qe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oJ71EGRlYNjSvfq7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 18:20:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC411065673 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:20:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C738FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:20:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Od5cK-0001h3-J6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:08:05 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:20:23 -0700 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:20:23 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100725182023.GB57688@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <8279E0B1-B1ED-49AF-BB8F-15CEA104821A@gull.us> <20100725172538.GA85893@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NMuMz9nt05w80d4+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100725172538.GA85893@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:20:29 -0000 --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Chad Perrin on Sunday, 25 July 2010: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:54:37AM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: >=20 > I'd think a devout Christian would have much more reason to complain > about a Flying Spaghetti Monster (whose only purpose is to mock mystical > belief systems) than a Daemon, ... On the contrary, they fear competition much more than direct opposition. That's why the bloodiest religious wars are usually between similar systems. Thus, an opposing mythical symbol is more threatening, provided it's taken seriously -- the attempt to cast it seriously is an attempt to frame an enemy. Actually, the deeper, unspoken threat is that it won't be taken seriously -- providing a precedent for the demotion of all mythical symbols. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMTIBnAAoJEIpckszW26+RlaIH/io1+wBGVQ7rsPpe1WUsJC9D f9792CYq+3oZKzENk4YeFceehkoUYvyFBG7sphuNlkdrlFtKabu8J8QfCTWpbN8A sd9s7TGLRPKcOBDYLaWo/ojeWTHaCHfttiBvdeiMEoWxM8/tK/YZeAaTeIPJR5uV w2SvnRjG8kanvH2GAqjxyO8mkEDBa5hhkBRiHobxkpinPzrAukh7JcsmCBrjl97R IQ+d3du0qC7zyjq4LQo33NOEzGRpP3Xsa7VpA3YKNTTJ6e4UNX8DKJ5bsc6ld8xF lqUyiOoaFdRh+VoulCcngr2DxozR9Fz1BSUWMYBKw18njYIjvei4+74S9OJgpKQ= =oG1s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 18:24:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E992E1065676 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00BC18FC15 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:24:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mHjS1e0020QkzPwA7JQ2MZ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:24:02 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mJQ01e00A1f6R9u8NJQ0fY; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:24:02 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:23:59 -0700 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:23:59 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100725182359.GA34005@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <20100724174634.GE50085@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <4c4bee5a.FbeaX7BIKcgmxnfL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4c4bee5a.FbeaX7BIKcgmxnfL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: Vim 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:24:03 -0000 On Sun 25 Jul 2010 at 00:57:14 PDT perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >This discussion has drifted badly OT Yes, and it really should be killed, now. Please. My thanks to those few who did NOT take it as an occasion for Christian-bashing. I'm not a Christian either, but I do get tired of it being the only religion people feel entitled to poke fun at. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 18:25:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88136106567A for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75EA68FC12 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Od5hH-0002fH-IB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:13:12 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:25:31 -0700 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:25:31 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100725182530.GC57688@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <20100724174634.GE50085@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <4c4bee5a.FbeaX7BIKcgmxnfL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20100725173143.GC85893@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100725173143.GC85893@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:25:36 -0000 --lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Chad Perrin on Sunday, 25 July 2010: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 12:57:14AM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > Chip Camden wrote: > >=20 > > > Personally, I like the devilish association, however indirect > > > it may be. FreeBSD is somewhat counter-cultural and anti- > > > authoritarian, after all. > >=20 > > This discussion has drifted badly OT, but I feel compelled to > > point out that Christ Himself was very counter-cultural and anti- > > authoritarian for His time. That's what got Him crucified, no? >=20 > Too bad his legacy is, in effect, authoritarianism and mainstream > cultural reinforcement -- including people bleating about some symbol > they misunderstand, and how it offends their willfully ignorant, > idolatrist sensitibilities. >=20 Preach it, brother! Though I generally refrain from speculating on WWJD, I think if asked about this symbol he might reply something like, "It doesn't matter what picture the web page bears-- look at what is inscribed on the heart." --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMTIGaAAoJEIpckszW26+R9kUH/j7GfrF1BLAsNKSesmUjO0/o A7kz3pFMgoWDnchaA9Y03cO2ee+9V6lHihlFcZL9Sobwp4uAWvcdNz7xnlz61OVw 7bHigDR7E9gU7Vlmn4s1p10PN+y0NjuB8A+8b0nFI0eJO+kCjXY8yaCgMaMY9Ftl 3HWBNOWg42z2coJThoe9a9FGiukv7gcxRK4simkRZfcflxVQtL3CM1eIpAjgdxP4 uTFpoTDpxcjV8yxFAtIk0JrnKZIbkv0scbtLA9ldCXp6LhaGLKJ+NAG8E9YExlwf MNKfPguchBCkPICHmDARkYZ/5+QWgdKSIJabVqFiKuMlaO5Ex80mgBwKY6slBmQ= =ve1b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 18:33:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5111065672 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:33:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5594A8FC1B for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:33:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so1935405wyj.13 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:33:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2q4hr3tDB9i5jLze1c68Ucoc4DoujBiBFsoFS5SaV1g=; b=m/HhUPuOiGhF2RB/pBpESREwoGwUYhZgMpZJxI/hsJ8eBZnn3/XHVk1bk6vZWba1oW p3McVwTf1wZOzyzJD4BYa1UHHx1pmc7IL6dgqmiiuDP61omTuSixDe+I8i/s46PQuKuI 4Zyb87fD+hzWoTre/t7S1WHd8qmYWME0KQLSA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IEGCLm7R6nMCzTrM5ZZs+pOBo5EGc9qIfey8ONZTUEMmZ2MYyM+WtZgwUyWKb05WxM hdnRCt5WdgfmDsJ0F1RQYISizzD7rPl3jTDX/0OYGSjhRxRiWCn6zwPIIGo7wmjy94tE 8GPGg/y/9Zl+ikS9GjTezzMMVjTt/i+oNQwuM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.169.80 with SMTP id m58mr6328888wel.79.1280082799978; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.165.140 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:33:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100725182359.GA34005@comcast.net> References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <20100724174634.GE50085@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <4c4bee5a.FbeaX7BIKcgmxnfL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20100725182359.GA34005@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:33:19 +0000 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:33:21 -0000 I have seen this quote: ------------------------------------------------- religions, worst damnation of mankind and on BSD forums :) http://149.20.54.209/showthread.php?t=14886 /* I'm not a Christian either, but I do get tired of it being the only religion people feel entitled to poke fun at. _______________________________________________ */ People will make fun of whichever religion they want, that is not limited to Christians :(, but they are a target group. And yes the BSD mascot does not have anything to do with evil, it is just a mascot and I like it BTW :) But to all you who would agree with me, we should keep religion out of this forum, because we will never agree :(, take a look at the middle east, the crusades, many wars that have happened in the name of religion :( Regards, Antonio On 7/25/10, Charlie Kester wrote: > On Sun 25 Jul 2010 at 00:57:14 PDT perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > >>This discussion has drifted badly OT > > Yes, and it really should be killed, now. Please. > > My thanks to those few who did NOT take it as an occasion for > Christian-bashing. I'm not a Christian either, but I do get tired of it > being the only religion people feel entitled to poke fun at. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 18:45:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED9C1065673 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:45:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gurpreet007@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FEB8FC15 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:45:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so1731132qyk.13 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:45:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=sPFi+737b/vkbfTrGA/Exa4ycsiS/fMny13mgzaOnzM=; b=BgqSPQtKQI2oNN0+xss6D2zQEy3Yc9ejB9CLVSSYvMPC7W8156815Fwo3GE+L0l4lk hu72gUtax9vNLDK5P7pEhWJDt41SvK+GSc4ltFTmx8PfvivLMJRZ5T0FZa7v1ZPzM2JW G0GyOoin0wVGAJ6hXJLAnVozxlKGtfXjnCfLg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=ssgUMCf+UfEYytIQXAas1EQrPmSwqYToFigM7FgugNG/m3uFy1YozH6tWels7mwnAK w2sYB+Y8PA5ZNoYGX5jHXHkfYkQy4fdIzlLEP77YRr7a+lJ3Jav8Umg/XYBX1423jkVJ fMkSIrJ1+NxsVpzjVuk1YrdUjPEnsWwMD24t4= Received: by 10.224.2.147 with SMTP id 19mr5032153qaj.60.1280082003204; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:20:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.142.8 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:19:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100725172538.GA85893@guilt.hydra> References: <8279E0B1-B1ED-49AF-BB8F-15CEA104821A@gull.us> <20100725172538.GA85893@guilt.hydra> From: me Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 23:49:43 +0530 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:45:21 -0000 ...and thus the Godwin's law holds! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:54:37AM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: > > > > Suppose for a moment that BSD would have forked to FBSD first in the > > East, say by a group of Indian Buddhist computer science students, and > > their choice of logo was a funny cartoon of a smiling Buddha holding a > > Swastika above it's head. The intention here would matter little to > > the common Jew, as he would probably feel immediately uncomfortable > > regardless if he knew what the Buddha was, or that the Swastika is a > > sacred Buddhist symbol. He would just see a semi-naked fat Nazi. Even > > if he knew all these things it would still make him somewhat > > uncomfortable of using this great technology. > > Here's the thing . . . > > The "jesus fish" (or "holy mackerel" or "Ichthys" or whatever you want to > call it) has no variance of meaning across cultures, when it contains the > Greek letters =C9=D7=C8=D5=D3 -- because it really only exists within one= extended > cultural family. Its meaning is clear. I'm not aware of any other > meaning for the mere intersecting-arcs fish symbol itself, without the > Greek letters, either -- but I wouldn't necessarily jump to any > conclusions about it without trying to look it up and, failing that, > asking about it (with clear reference to the fact that I tried and failed > to look up any meanings aside from the obvious). > > Meanwhile, swastikas have many meanings, in many cultures. They have > different meanings from the Nazi usage in parts of Asia, North America, > and even in Germany itself. The Nazis got it *somewhere* you know; they > didn't invent it. Context matters. > > I'd think a devout Christian would have much more reason to complain > about a Flying Spaghetti Monster (whose only purpose is to mock mystical > belief systems) than a Daemon, and that an Orthodox Jew would have much > more reason to complain about SS lightning bolts than a non-diagonal > swastika held aloft by a smiling Buddha. Considering we now have the > Internet at our disposal, I'm not terribly inclined to give a lot of > leeway to people who ask for symbols like a Buddhist swastika to be > changed without having gone to the minimal trouble to look it up on > Wikipedia. > > In truth, even the Hakenkreuz (the swastika variant the Nazis use) is not > strictly negative in meaning; it was a Germanic folk symbol before it was > misappropriated by the Nazis, and it has not *lost* that previous meaning > just because it has gained strong negative associations to those who do > not know its full history. Place it in a white circle on a red field, > though, and as far as I'm concerned you have every right to be disturbed > to see it associated with something you might otherwise like -- because > that is quite clearly a Nazi-specific context. The same goes for the > Nazi Party's parteiadler, depicting a stylized eagle atop a wreathed > hakenkreuz. > > > > > > Again, my intention to butt in here was just to point out that many > > times we find things hilarious, a simple analogy can help us better > > understand that it may very serious to others, such is life though, > > and the 'others' should also make an effort to understand us. Sadly, > > our judgements almost always get in the way of seeing beyond each > > other's myopic viewpoint. > > The fact that someone misunderstands something that can be double-checked > with trivial effort (far less effort than complaining on this mailing > list), and uses that misunderstanding to justify complaints and trying to > convince someone to change a mascot with years of history, seems in no > way justified to me. For me, the key difference is not anyone's biases, > per se -- it's willful ignorance, which I am never inclined to justify or > excuse, in principle. > > > > > > Back to the issue at hand (and actually on-topic), I personally don't > > like the circle with cones and don't think that FBSD should move away > > from the little red Devil or Daemon or whatever you wanna call it > > (does he have a name?). In _my_ judgment, for example, the circle with > > cones looks like some sort of sexual fetish, but then again we're all > > free to interpret it as we like, and who am I, as a relative newcomer > > to FBSD to form an opinion anyway :) > > The mascot's name is Beastie (roughly homonymous with BSD). Of course, > Beastie is *not* actually a FreeBSD symbol, per se: he's a BSD Unix > symbol in general. The first sentence of the Wikipedia page for "Beastie > (Mascot)" says "The BSD daemon, nicknamed Beastie, is the generic mascot > of BSD operating systems."[1] The sex toy logo doesn't do anything for > me, but it is at least a FreeBSD-specific symbol, and I guess I'm willing > to suffer the indignity of having a kind of dumb, largely meaningless > symbol, if it means FreeBSD actually gets a symbol at all. > > My biggest complaint with the sex toy symbol is that it doesn't lend > itself easily to simplification a logo really should. Basically, if it > isn't easily well-represented in a 16px monochrome presentation, it > should be rethought, in my opinion. It has been made official, though, > and I'm not sure the problems I've identified are sufficient to overturn > the apple cart at this point. I'll live with it. > > --- > > [1]: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Beastie_(mascot) > > -- > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] > --=20 Life is not fair. Get used to it. .... Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 20:11:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF33F106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:11:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B91818FC16 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:11:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 9638 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jul 2010 20:11:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 2010 20:11:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=E812gL3mqNaDYvYfunuJF8ZyeJFCw1E4cpVcC9ELsmW0tI64QTo4UJT7vtqRNcVcnk/WWNT5auFNmatRLtuqlpL+WfgCbRvroVwToSvSZHf/6Y+7t62fLBLRpi5yw5/9; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Od7YD-0003Iz-Ua for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:11:59 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:10:06 -0600 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:10:06 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100725201006.GA86402@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <20100724174634.GE50085@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <4c4bee5a.FbeaX7BIKcgmxnfL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20100725182359.GA34005@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100725182359.GA34005@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:11:59 -0000 --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:23:59AM -0700, Charlie Kester wrote: > On Sun 25 Jul 2010 at 00:57:14 PDT perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >=20 > >This discussion has drifted badly OT >=20 > Yes, and it really should be killed, now. Please. >=20 > My thanks to those few who did NOT take it as an occasion for > Christian-bashing. I'm not a Christian either, but I do get tired of it > being the only religion people feel entitled to poke fun at.=20 I'm as much a fan of people looking for reasons to be offended on someone else's behalf as much as I am of people looking for reasons to be offended on their own behalf. Very little in this discussion was about Christianity or Christians, per se. If you don't like it for being off-topic, fine. There's no reason to believe it is "Christian-bashing", however -- because, at least for the most part, it isn't (unless you think one person asking for the mascot to be changed is representative of the entirety of Christianity, and by disagreeing with him we are "Christian-bashing"). --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxMmh4ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXz3QCglfmeWxKgzlXBXlIEHUMw8Lpb Ai0AnRII1Ve6zUAApgI9DrxvUGaQ2tQv =Aigl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 20:12:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E8C1065687 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02A9B8FC14 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10417 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jul 2010 20:12:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 2010 20:12:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=I8MOf8q7tesKx6hZlOLbfSjmMWeG7BtsglhV2PX84OuCauDWk5naEhh5m/dWt0TI2KRXpWienhcRZoJj0kq2tl/LRW/d2e48vw/FT1oVZleKW5jNfymNjEucr2nacJ8w; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Od7Z4-0004Ag-Kq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:12:51 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:10:58 -0600 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:10:58 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100725201058.GB86402@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <8279E0B1-B1ED-49AF-BB8F-15CEA104821A@gull.us> <20100725172538.GA85893@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:12:52 -0000 --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:49:43PM +0530, me wrote: > ...and thus the Godwin's law holds! > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law Shouldn't this have been a response to the guy *before* me? --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxMmlIACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKX3dwCfaRicmWpo17BGUCcD7f6f7vz7 hysAoJso+P+yp8DhbOdgk7+K+TmCcPFk =2MTt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 20:15:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B897C106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:15:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 996FB8FC22 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:15:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 12892 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jul 2010 20:15:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 2010 20:15:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=gfhMikLmgEQGOYq1Zi3pHzGu71U2WKDKHpAwMvl1mWgZHyTdbZnfj+qPgE4d2/XRMiHWF6n4gxeORfNW7dJmu4z2MFZlcBzTgtGlK+ZXbG3x6cq5vH39bA7eWzM+rvw+; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Od7bp-0007NX-1f for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:15:42 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:13:49 -0600 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:13:49 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100725201349.GC86402@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <8279E0B1-B1ED-49AF-BB8F-15CEA104821A@gull.us> <20100725172538.GA85893@guilt.hydra> <20100725182023.GB57688@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="H8ygTp4AXg6deix2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100725182023.GB57688@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:15:42 -0000 --H8ygTp4AXg6deix2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:20:23AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Chad Perrin on Sunday, 25 July 2010: > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:54:37AM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: > > >=20 > > I'd think a devout Christian would have much more reason to complain > > about a Flying Spaghetti Monster (whose only purpose is to mock mystical > > belief systems) than a Daemon, ... >=20 > >=20 > On the contrary, they fear competition much more than direct opposition. > That's why the bloodiest religious wars are usually between similar syste= ms. > Thus, an opposing mythical symbol is more threatening, provided it's > taken seriously -- the attempt to cast it seriously is an attempt to > frame an enemy. >=20 > Actually, the deeper, unspoken threat is that it won't be taken seriously > -- providing a precedent for the demotion of all mythical symbols. Allow me to rephrase: "I'd think a devout Christian *who isn't an idiot* would have much more reason to complain about a Flying Spaghetti Monster . . ." Of course, I'm assuming that "devout" precludes being a pretender to faithfulness who is only engaging in spiritually empty propaganda. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --H8ygTp4AXg6deix2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxMmv0ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXVsACfR1C2GiRwu1W6G9kVldBdxJb2 yX0AoJ/LGkTse9anvwNNe4skpfM/2WDM =n4sW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --H8ygTp4AXg6deix2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 20:24:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91683106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:24:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E38A8FC23 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:24:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so1984716wyj.13 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:24:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wQy6HrejOsF1/umZu5LB1pRLrVbZdxVPwUlA/klNqrk=; b=CwfRJgUc2gm0xo5TBLIYYtfO9bHGJmdG7Cty1USmhBrxfPtUfd0E8dhFlsbYlt1N54 OHIsN52Ky9dOv7SAhgXbu1vKOWuUx7MC0oGbgSlyXBjIuLdRqrewDrEkKE4Ikwa9Bd+M pOdZ0F6ogcjKqaIB2lIv2CFBdabESy3ZyND0c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=T14Ve3dtkNco+wEIlOOmMKSVp7z11MAnwBTydHTvOB1duC6lxf+g0Gbg/s7Tbgr+Y/ IL4JiV12BjiFpE3gUmD7FAUmn2DvasTZtb1MkOVzshf5ng2fR23khMF9ecadVp4/1VTF fi538uSfPyIo4E5BqUwpyDZlU5RScrcN1bmQs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.37.220 with SMTP id y28mr6406823wbd.79.1280089449763; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.12.209 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:24:09 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: cpu_reset: stopping other CPUs - machine stalls at halt or reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:24:12 -0000 Hello fellas, I have a vmware FreeBSD guest with 8 CPU's and 2GB RAM. I am a bit puzzled of the behaviour the system has when I issue "reboot" and/or "halt -p now". It shows "cpu_reset: stopping other CPUs" and stalls for ~2 minutes. I have a custom SMP kernel and at the moment I was unable to reveal any problems with the guest or the host (win 7). FreeBSD has all ports up to date and at the moment of reboot or shutdown, no "heavy" is running. Did any of you experience something similar ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 20:30:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9488D10656D7 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:30:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851AB8FC15 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6PKULfw013772 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:30:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o6PKUL68013769 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:30:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:30:21 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.5 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:30:21 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Subject: xfce4, Thunar, and removable drives X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:30:22 -0000 With xfce4, USB memory sticks or hard drives cause an auto-mount (via hal)... and then multiple copies of the same device appear on the desktop. For example, a Sandisk 8G USB stick with one UFS slice filling the whole device, volume label "sandisk8g". With Thunar set to "Mount removable drives when hot-plugged", "Mount removable media when inserted", and "Browse removable media when inserted", connecting the stick causes two Thunar windows to open. Both point to /media/sandisk8g. Removing the stick cleanly is also a little difficult. Right-click, unmount... and then quickly remove it, or it will be remounted by the system and up come the two windows again. Is this something due to hal seeing new volumes appear under the device name (da0s1) and the volume label? I have not been successful in getting hal to stop looking at certain /dev directories. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 20:48:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E400C1065670 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:48:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfarmer@predatorlabs.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C20308FC12 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:48:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so2253695vws.13 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:48:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.63.12 with SMTP id z12mr3600397vch.44.1280090936182; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.190.198 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:48:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [71.1.135.50] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:48:55 -0700 Message-ID: From: Rob Farmer To: claudiu vasadi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cpu_reset: stopping other CPUs - machine stalls at halt or reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:48:58 -0000 On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 1:24 PM, claudiu vasadi wrote: > Hello fellas, > > > I have a vmware FreeBSD guest with 8 CPU's and 2GB RAM. > > I am a bit puzzled of the behaviour the system has when I issue "reboot" > and/or "halt -p now". It shows "cpu_reset: stopping other CPUs" and stalls > for ~2 minutes. > > I have a custom SMP kernel and at the moment I was unable to reveal any > problems with the guest or the host (win 7). > > FreeBSD has all ports up to date and at the moment of reboot or shutdown, no > "heavy" is running. > > > Did any of you experience something similar ? Yeah - I've seen the same thing when rebooting - the cpu_reset message appears and there is a long delay before a reboot happens. I have no problems powering off though (shutdown -p). I've got a -current vm under 6.5.4 with 2 CPUs, host OS is Windows 7, that can take a while to reboot. I haven't timed it but 90 seconds from the message appearing is a good estimate. Since the disks should already be synced by that point, there doesn't seem to be any harm in just resetting the VM - I've done it a number of times and never had any issues. However, even on a real computer, there is a bit of a delay here - my Thinkpad T61 will sit there for around 20 seconds before actually rebooting. I have no idea how to even start debugging this kind of thing and it isn't a really big deal to me (I don't reboot too often and just use the workaround when I do), so I never reported it. -- Rob Farmer > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 20:59:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE4D106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:59:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09BA8FC14 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so2000772wyj.13 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:59:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=YgpcbdGitfPLlVKLa0kk1vhfTK9HVuE0h3bxgwM6g9A=; b=Y+uEDGlWqCUYz1DWSBqTKUbrZWmR369aUkX6ipnxfD8YLFp9w8pgw0SLXceUkPtaXh 9gFru7idTorbQvb0bNKb2ih1gzL4Gfxp4/+SclJP9bkpUz2Ze11VPWdpgU4SZr9TI+mO YHgttHHimYZxCJIiRRfmjWkth6qFuxvnOaUT4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=aJHrPMIXWVlsFCoqv/zbjKe0luOVS+8En624FBF0Nfww1N/URlGRfxKNYoJJJOmPZ4 pE4b9Tqb7TOQEJacPOtQnF4ps5DtQaSUR4HKRz/HW8AOSHpoW/6VpfmmARF+SRh7lAGp 5zngapxh25GjjvGUZLXQJNpZd5sn9+vfqwg/U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.179.20 with SMTP id g20mr6495244wem.45.1280091586666; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.12.209 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:59:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:59:46 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: Rob Farmer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cpu_reset: stopping other CPUs - machine stalls at halt or reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:59:49 -0000 Rob, In the meantime I installed a "real" freebsd on my work T400 and I am experiencing the same thing. I believe that at this point I can rule out a vmware problem. PS: I also tried hard rebooting after I consider the sync done and I did not experience any weird behavior. Still .... is it intended to stall so long ? I hope not, because I don't like it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 21:03:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFDE1065674 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:03:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 079838FC0C for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:03:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6PL3Qj8018480; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:03:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:03:25 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: bf1783@gmail.com Message-ID: <20100725210325.GC91830@thought.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: popt-1.50 or better?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:03:28 -0000 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:53:03PM +0000, b. f. wrote: > >here are the last few lines of output from configure, ots-0.5.0: > > > >checking for pkg-config... /usr/X11R6/bin/pkg-config > >checking for glib-2.0 >= 2.0 libxml-2.0 >= 2.4.23... yes > >checking OTS_CFLAGS... -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 > >-I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 > >-I/usr/local/include > >checking OTS_LIBS... -L/usr/local/lib -lglib-2.0 -lxml2 > >checking for poptParseArgvString in -lpopt... no > >configure: error: popt 1.5 or newer is required to build ots. > >You can download the latest version from > >ftp://ftp.rpm.org/pub/rpm/dist/rpm-4.1.x/ > > > poptParseArgvString is in the $PREFIX/lib/libpopt.so.0 library from > our devel/popt port. The latest available version of this software is > 1.16, in the Red Hat repos. Look at the configure script to determine > why it can't find the symbol. Maybe you need to reinstall devel/popt, > or patch the configure script. > can anybody tell me how to upgrade just this one file: devel/popt? i tried various forms up portupgrade. zip. i'm interested in anything that is an improvment on old getopt(). that said, i remember fu==ooling around w ith doing things the =long= way. having an "#include " with those few dozen lines of code hidden away would be a ++win. gary PS: we do have ots; it's in textproc. check it out, guys. seems to work out/box. pps:: it is time for a C2012 or the like... > > b. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 21:42:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93BAB1065678 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:42:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41048FC12 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6PLgLxH097021 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:42:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C4CAFB6.9000703@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:42:14 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <20100724174634.GE50085@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <4c4bee5a.FbeaX7BIKcgmxnfL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20100725182359.GA34005@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <20100725182359.GA34005@comcast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7E0F56EA12F5B01398756AFA" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:42:26 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7E0F56EA12F5B01398756AFA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 25/07/2010 19:23:59, Charlie Kester wrote: > My thanks to those few who did NOT take it as an occasion for > Christian-bashing. I'm not a Christian either, but I do get tired of i= t > being the only religion people feel entitled to poke fun at. As far as I know, Christians are the only religious group certain members of which have seen fit to complain about the FreeBSD logo. As far as I'm concerned, any person making such a superstitious and nonsensical statement opens themselves up to a spot of well deserved ridicule. Regardless of what their faith is. Fortunately, most practitioners of most faiths nowadays seem to have abandoned superstition and adopted reason. Besides, I suspect that the OP was not in fact genuinely offended but merely trying to stir up trouble, given that the message was sent using mPOP Web-Mail[*]; a well-known spamming tool, and while the message appears to be from a Russian mail service, it actually originated from somewhere in Canada. Cheers, Matthew [*] SpamAssassin slam-dunked it into the junk folder. If no one had answered, I'd never even have noticed it. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig7E0F56EA12F5B01398756AFA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxMr70ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwWQQCfQrwWIvm2NtEPx5ozGdWIV2Ne 72gAn2Zmd5uE3ZeS1Xs/uBo84IvVveAq =L0hL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7E0F56EA12F5B01398756AFA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 22:03:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870DE106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:03:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6748FC24 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:03:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6PM389G097209 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 23:03:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C4CB496.5090207@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 23:03:02 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <8279E0B1-B1ED-49AF-BB8F-15CEA104821A@gull.us> <20100725172538.GA85893@guilt.hydra> <20100725182023.GB57688@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100725201349.GC86402@guilt.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20100725201349.GC86402@guilt.hydra> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigDDB94C947757223EF7AF9E97" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:03:12 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDDB94C947757223EF7AF9E97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 25/07/2010 21:13:49, Chad Perrin wrote: > "I'd think a devout Christian *who isn't an idiot* would have much more= > reason to complain about a Flying Spaghetti Monster . . ." Ah, but a non-idiotic, devout Christian would realise that the point of the FSM is not to attack religion per-se, but a satire on the sort of self-righteous, perniciously ignorant behaviour undertaken in the name of Religion. (which behaviour is, by-the-by, actually against the the precepts of humility and tolerance that are meant to be core Christian values. But wotthehell, wotthehell.) A true Christian might not feel able to publically endorse the Pastafarian faith, but they should certainly agree with its objectives. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigDDB94C947757223EF7AF9E97 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxMtJwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIy3ZgCaA1TpN4pbTQ1scctES/gtUL3M QYMAoJCoifLq+sfbRKgRSKz6hoowN6Cd =Gt8S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigDDB94C947757223EF7AF9E97-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 22:41:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CAAC1065673 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:41:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29708FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mN3D1e0041Y3wxoA5NhW9y; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:41:30 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mNhU1e0021f6R9u8bNhUQp; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:41:29 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:41:27 -0700 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:41:27 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100725224126.GB34005@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <20100724174634.GE50085@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <4c4bee5a.FbeaX7BIKcgmxnfL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20100725182359.GA34005@comcast.net> <4C4CAFB6.9000703@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C4CAFB6.9000703@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: Vim 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:41:30 -0000 On Sun 25 Jul 2010 at 14:42:14 PDT Matthew Seaman wrote: > >Besides, I suspect that the OP was not in fact genuinely offended but >merely trying to stir up trouble Which makes it all the more disappointing that so many of you took the bait. I stand by my previous comments. Please end this thread, now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 23:56:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F63106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 23:56:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arab@tangerine-army.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B862E8FC14 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 23:56:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.23.170.143] (helo=anti-virus02-10) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1OdB3F-0002Po-2O for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 00:56:13 +0100 Received: from [94.168.170.153] (helo=Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl) by asmtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1OdB3A-0006WH-Dv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 00:56:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 00:55:21 +0100 Message-ID: <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F7897392904F7B3@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 In-Reply-To: <20100725224126.GB34005@comcast.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: em0 and FreeBSD8.1 Thread-Index: AcssSrLXcP7dIpb9Q/qNncdSrawXYgAB3BUw References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra><20100724174634.GE50085@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com><4c4bee5a.FbeaX7BIKcgmxnfL%perryh@pluto.rain.com><20100725182359.GA34005@comcast.net><4C4CAFB6.9000703@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100725224126.GB34005@comcast.net> From: "Graeme Dargie" To: Subject: em0 and FreeBSD8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 23:56:15 -0000 Hello All, I installed 8.1 yesterday on vmware exsi, all seemed to go fine, but today I noticed when I fired up phpsysinfo a lot of dropped packets. Device Received Sent Err/Drop em0 0.00 KB 0.00 KB 343/0 plip0 0.00 KB 0.00 KB 0/0 lo0 0.00 KB 0.00 KB 0/0 %ifconfig em0: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=3D9b ether 00:0c:29:6d:51:a9 inet 192.168.1.120 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active The machine that vmware runs on has intel gb based nics and I also run pfsense as my router firewall on the same vmware exsi machine and it has not dropped a packet. Device Received Sent Err/Drop em0 725.40 MB 1.19 GB 0/0 em1 3.49 GB 2.46 GB 0/0 lo0 375.63 KB 375.63 KB 0/0 enc0* 0.00 KB 0.00 KB 0/0 pfsyn 0.00 KB 0.00 KB 0/0 pflog 0.00 KB 146.35 MB 0/0 em1: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=3D9b ether 00:0c:29:f0:0c:c3 inet 192.168.1.250 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 inet6 fe80::20c:29ff:fef0:cc3%em1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) status: active The only difference I can see is according to phpsysinfo the 8.1 machine shows - Intel Corporation - Gigabit Ethernet Controller (copper) (82545EM) Where as the pfsense vm shows em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 6.9.6 Any one any ideas why this is showing dropped packets. Regards Graeme From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 00:27:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C7C106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 00:27:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03948FC08 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 00:27:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20061 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2010 00:27:44 -0000 Received: from dsl081-163-112.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO ringbill.gull.us) ([64.81.163.112]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 26 Jul 2010 00:27:44 -0000 Received: from alphonse ([192.168.10.9] helo=alphonse.gull.us) by ringbill.gull.us with esmtpa (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OdBXk-000GCI-7D for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:27:44 -0700 Message-Id: From: David Brodbeck To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <20100725182359.GA34005@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:27:43 -0700 References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <20100724174634.GE50085@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <4c4bee5a.FbeaX7BIKcgmxnfL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20100725182359.GA34005@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 00:27:46 -0000 On Jul 25, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Charlie Kester wrote: > On Sun 25 Jul 2010 at 00:57:14 PDT perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > >> This discussion has drifted badly OT > > Yes, and it really should be killed, now. Please. > > My thanks to those few who did NOT take it as an occasion for > Christian-bashing. I'm not a Christian either, but I do get tired > of it > being the only religion people feel entitled to poke fun at. Well, two points: 1. I've actually heard a lot more Muslim-bashing in the last several years than Christian bashing, but I suppose confirmation bias intrudes on this sort of thing pretty badly. 2. Personally, I feel there's something wrong with any religion whose followers have no sense of humor about it. It also hasn't escaped my notice that the original poster has never come back to this thread; I suspect we've been trolled, folks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 00:49:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81D01065674 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 00:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from petre@kgb.ro) Received: from mail.kgb.ro (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:3d5::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630A18FC08 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 00:49:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [86.122.209.58]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: petre@kgb.ro) by mail.kgb.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D67026810E for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 03:49:56 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4C4CDBB3.8010005@kgb.ro> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 03:49:55 +0300 From: Petre Bandac Organization: my own organization User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1938630988-1279780950-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1345666249-@bda088.bisx.produk.on.blackberry> <44mxtgx1sl.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44mxtgx1sl.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=874E4588 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Port upgrade problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 00:49:56 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > "Petre Bandac" writes: > >> While upgrading port, I have the following problems: >> - some cfg files are overwritten (authdaemon's authmysqlrc) > > I can't figure out what port that comes from, so I can't help. courier-authlib-mysql-0.63.0_1 - the file is /usr/local/etc/authlib/authmysqlrc >> - some make install options are not kept (maildrop - not compiled against mysql and courier imap - fam is compiled, even though initially was ruled out) > > Those aren't set up as OPTIONS, so they won't get stored in > /var/db/ports. > >> The upgrade sequence is: >> >> # portsnap fetch update >> # portmanager -u >> >> Am I doing something wrong? > > See "alternative configuration" in the portmanager manual. I guess that is what I need, thank you however, I don't remember to have had this problem until now (i.e. options not being kept @ update); or they had the same behavior ? thank you for your time, petre - -- Petre Bandac Network Scientist - - petre@kgb.ro -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFMTNuzwAhp/odORYgRAsjqAJ4k0RwYQGDoH3PGnTL751lWZyU0IwCfchk8 sEid7oRqjm5+a4Kh0DQwoYg= =ArdN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 01:00:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4FF1065672 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:00:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from nomoremozzie.com (nomoremozzie.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071118FC12 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([112.199.220.128]) (authenticated bits=0) by nomoremozzie.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o6Q0Zvt5012541 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:35:58 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:35:53 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-STABLE; KDE/4.4.5; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201007260835.54088.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Subject: growisofs gives random error messages on 8.1 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:00:05 -0000 Hi, I am trying to get the DVD burner running on 8.1 The machine: 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #3: Sat Jul 24 20:56:05 SGT 2010 I have atapicam enabled. I lock HAL. Still, it seems I am missing something or there is a problem with my hardware. The command: hal-lock --interface org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage --udi /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_model_DVDRAM_GH22NS40 --run 'growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=4 -Z /dev/cd0=imagefile.iso' Executing 'builtin_dd if=imagefile.iso of=/dev/pass0 obs=32k seek=0' The output: Executing 'builtin_dd if=imagefile.iso of=/dev/pass0 obs=32k seek=0' /dev/pass0: "Current Write Speed" is 4.1x1352KBps. 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% 0/1604739072 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0% :-( unable to WRITE@LBA=0h: Input/output error :-( write failed: Input/output error The output is random. It even claimed once to have the DVD finished. But the DVD is not mountable. As it was never used to burn, it also could be a hardware problem. Reading was not a problem on 8.0. Does anybody have any idea what I am missing? Erich PS: What I did: I added from the handbook atapicam according to the handbook: '18.6.9 Using the ATAPI/CAM Driver" I followed this advice: http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/halfaq.html#q6 I tried to sent this question yesterday but most likely it never reached this list. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 01:11:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C20C1065676 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1248FC1A for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:11:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-179-206.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.179.206]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0C83DD95; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 03:11:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o6Q1BMOb006449; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 03:11:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 03:11:22 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Erich Dollansky Message-Id: <20100726031122.a6fd013d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201007260835.54088.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> References: <201007260835.54088.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: growisofs gives random error messages on 8.1 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:11:26 -0000 Sadly, I can't help you very much because I'm using a HAL/DBUS free system. That's why my assumption that HAL may be the source of your problem is just a wild guess. If it's possible, disable HAL, maybe even don't boot into Gnome, and run the growisofs as the manpage illustrates. See if the problem occurs then, too. Your command was growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=4 -Z /dev/cd0=imagefile.iso' You can omit the -speed parameter as growisofs usually (this means, at least by my individual experience) will automatically determine the correct writing speed. As writing started - your example did show that - I don't think it's a problem with permissions (cd, pass, xpt devices). On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:35:53 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > The output is random. It even claimed once to have the DVD finished. > But the DVD is not mountable. Check "file - < /dev/acd0" if an ISO file system has been written to the DVD. > As it was never used to burn, it also could be a hardware problem. > Reading was not a problem on 8.0. Could be, especially if you consider the range of errors, from "no write at all" to "finished writing" (with no readable result). > I followed this advice: > > http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/halfaq.html#q6 Just for testing, I would first eleminate HAL and all the "automation magic". The test setting should be as "clean" as possible. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 01:17:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BCA8106567B for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:17:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AEE8FC1D for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:17:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OdCJZ-0002oY-DP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:17:09 -0700 Message-ID: <29262747.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:17:09 -0700 (PDT) From: zaxis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: z_axis@163.com Subject: I donot like using mergemaster ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:17:11 -0000 I want to upgrade my freebsd 8.0 to 8.1. I have read all the steps about upgrading freebsd. I feel mergemaster is difficult to use e.g. which parameters should i use ? (you may wish to use -U or -ai or -Fi) =20 ----- e^(=CF=80=E2=8B=85i) + 1 =3D 0 --=20 View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/I-donot-like-using-merg= emaster----tp29262747p29262747.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 02:36:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4241065678 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:36:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8693E8FC1F for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mQUR1e0010S2fkCA6ScQkp; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:36:24 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mScN1e0031f6R9u8VScNuW; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:36:23 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:36:21 -0700 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:36:21 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100726023620.GC34005@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <29262747.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <29262747.post@talk.nabble.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: Vim 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: I donot like using mergemaster ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:36:24 -0000 On Sun 25 Jul 2010 at 18:17:09 PDT zaxis wrote: > >I want to upgrade my freebsd 8.0 to 8.1. I have read all the steps about >upgrading freebsd. I feel mergemaster is difficult to use e.g. which >parameters should i use ? (you may wish to use -U or -ai or -Fi) I usually use -p when invoking mergemaster before installworld, and -F after. I.e.: ... # mergemaster -p # make installworld # mergemaster -F ... I don't know what the other mergemaster options do, but I've never felt the need for them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 02:59:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D26106566C for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:59:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from nomoremozzie.com (nomoremozzie.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869248FC12 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:59:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([112.199.220.128]) (authenticated bits=0) by nomoremozzie.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o6Q2xp9W004691; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:59:52 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:59:47 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-STABLE; KDE/4.4.5; amd64; ; ) References: <201007260835.54088.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20100726031122.a6fd013d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100726031122.a6fd013d.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201007261059.47832.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: Subject: Re: growisofs gives random error messages on 8.1 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:59:56 -0000 Hi, On Monday 26 July 2010 09:11:22 Polytropon wrote: > > Your command was > > growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=4 -Z /dev/cd0=imagefile.iso' > > You can omit the -speed parameter as growisofs usually (this means, > at least by my individual experience) will automatically determine > the correct writing speed. the speed parameter got stuck after I tried the lowest supported speed to exclude the speed as the cause. > > As writing started - your example did show that - I don't think > it's a problem with permissions (cd, pass, xpt devices). I did it as root. > > > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:35:53 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > The output is random. It even claimed once to have the DVD finished. > > > > But the DVD is not mountable. > > Check "file - < /dev/acd0" if an ISO file system has been written > to the DVD. > > > > > As it was never used to burn, it also could be a hardware problem. > > Reading was not a problem on 8.0. > > Could be, especially if you consider the range of errors, from "no > write at all" to "finished writing" (with no readable result). These optical media drive me crazy. I once have had a CD with a very fine crack. Once it worked, once it did not. Over time, the crack became visible. As it was an installation CD it caused a lot of problems before realising that the CD is the source. > > > > > I followed this advice: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/halfaq.html#q6 > > Just for testing, I would first eleminate HAL and all the "automation > magic". The test setting should be as "clean" as possible. > Ok, this is what I will do later when my main work has finished using X. > > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 My first BSD was running on a PDP-11 in 79. Some time has passed since then. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 05:19:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B33106566C for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:19:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Kevin@RawFedDogs.net) Received: from Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net (Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net [64.251.15.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093BA8FC16 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cpe-24-162-130-63.hot.res.rr.com ([24.162.130.63] helo=Blaidd-Drwg.RawFedDogs.net) by Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OdG6E-0001S5-Ss for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 00:19:40 -0500 Received: by Blaidd-Drwg.RawFedDogs.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6746DDD7D00; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 00:20:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 00:20:31 -0500 From: Kevin Monceaux To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100726052030.GA26133@RawFedDogs.net> References: <20100724185925.GA69480@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20100724214725.GA82251@guilt.hydra> <20100725134730.GA5685@RawFedDogs.net> <20100725172937.GB85893@guilt.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100725172937.GB85893@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 24.162.130.63 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: Kevin@RawFedDogs.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Kevin Monceaux List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:19:41 -0000 On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:29:37AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 08:47:30AM -0500, Kevin Monceaux wrote: > > > > I guess that depends on which period of Latin one studies. From Lati= n > > Pronunciation Demystified: > >=20 > > http://www.ai.uga.edu/mc/latinpro.pdf > >=20 > > ae like English ai in aisle > >=20 > > Which is how I pronounce ae in Latin. On the other hand, I've always > > pronounced daemon like day-mohn, probably from hearing Jon Pertwee > > pronounce it that way in the Doctor Who episode The D=C3=A6mons. >=20 > Without downloading a PDF and reading it . . . do you know what Latin > variant is used in that document? No, without download and reading the PDF I wouldn't know what Latin variant is used in that document. :-) Since it was only a 39K file, there was no reason for me to worry about downloading it. =20 > Is it classical, church, or scientifically bastardized Latin (for > instance)? I'm curious. Yes, to all of the above. It has a chart showing a few pronunciations including classical which it describes as the reconstructed ancient pronunciation. It even includes an "English method" which is basically pronouncing Latin words as if they were English words. > I know that in at least some contexts the Latin pronunciation is more > "dee" than "dai" for daemon, and that "dee" is the pronunciation > generally considered "correct" for server processes in Unix systems. > Beyond that, it's entirely possible there are other pronunciations of > which I am not aware -- though I'm pretty sure "day" is solely an > artifact of people trying to figure out how to pronounce terms that > contain the ae (or the =C3=A6 ligature) without actually trying to look= it up. The above document describes ae in classical pronunciation as like ai in aisle and in all other pronunciations like Latin =C4=93. It describes Latin =C4=93 in all pronunciations, except the English method, as like a = in plate. Going by the above the first syllable of daemon could be pronounced like day. --=20 Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!=20 Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 05:19:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DA8106567C for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:19:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FA98FC0A for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:19:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk32 with SMTP id 32so2007026qyk.13 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:19:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sQn7Y7maPFGafoosffPzT8Nc1nAUGlvlLMGoXQlK7XE=; b=lunWf+pWvz8J2HQMLlKSoSG0Av/bhxr/hNr/7owImMuy6kEhZxuZSRjcukjBUdZH23 /9gobOPQd8H912eSiN8mPHO/kJy9jXBrnk4jHcFFNYF0f6N9R+5C8sJM71eJ4MYiURxd OB84U+vStZUUW1yzqWteX7yyjOe0CBHQflsik= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jmWgQw3sBmpLneSzWFjlSUMf6KAcTZAJPD99RVpZmsHu3GhZUkoaoqALdh79/FxIrA 9gLpJOKsS200mhFDGsepmakh0wNsnyWKMf8q4gFD76x7768uRWo+KZ4XsBlKcuxEuhxo GKg10vr/qJn1Zm8Q495geqN+DX2ndTsvUBb8M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.65.228 with SMTP id k36mr5748895qai.35.1280121587124; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.29.71 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:19:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100726023620.GC34005@comcast.net> References: <29262747.post@talk.nabble.com> <20100726023620.GC34005@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 00:19:47 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: I donot like using mergemaster ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:19:48 -0000 On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Charlie Kester wrote: > On Sun 25 Jul 2010 at 18:17:09 PDT zaxis wrote: > >> >> I want to upgrade my freebsd 8.0 to 8.1. I have read all the steps about >> upgrading freebsd. I feel mergemaster is difficult to use e.g. which >> parameters should i use ? (you may wish to use -U or -ai or -Fi) >> > > I usually use -p when invoking mergemaster before installworld, and -F > after. I.e.: > > ... > # mergemaster -p > # make installworld > # mergemaster -F > ... > mergemaster -iFU -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 05:30:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0C6106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:30:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7370C8FC17 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:30:33 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgoHAHO6TEx20pdv/2dsb2JhbACTGYxGcr9ChTYEhAY Received: from ppp118-210-151-111.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO alpha.home) ([118.210.151.111]) by ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 26 Jul 2010 15:00:31 +0930 From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:00:30 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201007261500.30380.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Subject: Printing from linux-firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:30:34 -0000 Having trouble getting flshh to work with native firefox, I decided to try one or other of the linux versions. With linux-firefox-devel-3.5.9 I was able to get flash wworking OK. But the linux version does not find any any printer access. I am using (traditional) lpd for spooling to a Postscript network printer. Is there something I need to do so that the linux emulation is aware of the native level lpd spooler? The native version of firefox finds my printer OK. Any help appreciated. Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 05:48:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6CD106566C for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lisen1001@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f182.google.com (mail-px0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 390568FC13 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi8 with SMTP id 8so5104839pxi.13 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:48:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qxP+ZP1wYTbD/Ifz6Cxt3wtznuDUilG0DDoicNHQHPI=; b=BSgGY2nUOINP0HgKu1zC9+d2+NyPeiG2L0gHwrhoepgcSrkN1jHLH1AXl9jOFlzQbP Otlde7s2XYeB85R2zcEl/SjZQrCuP6JegLSC8EVbKCLVi7kEfG7JszEcayeEW8RTF0J9 qW0zNIG7fIGS3TAoNJ4Kh6PJmWDPCTrIwpVgg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VNiGMlBbrh+cbfylY6HlqmfNCgA9fuBPTkEiVEdvg+NWLFvX+0IHSnCIjUb+Hb39j5 5ARThBqfoVHHxDiLXHr39MxLAIO6xMiiTEgIfQCzRQGjjBNvBq2jP0tuP06TPjt0VKqq 8u1rDXZZoXhW11QdeKGEqMiKVi8/fWnOxVhLg= Received: by 10.114.80.10 with SMTP id d10mr10712059wab.216.1280123324478; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:48:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.24.2] ([218.107.55.253]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d38sm5972945wam.20.2010.07.25.22.48.42 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C4D21B8.3010608@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:48:40 +0800 From: Jason User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; zh-CN; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: What is the meaning of this warn? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:48:45 -0000 HI,ALL: My freebsd server offer service to thousands of clients. I found lots of warning in the /var/log/message like this :"Approaching the limit on PV entries, consider increasing either the vm.pmap.shpgperproc or the vm.pmap.pv_entry_max tunable" My question is : 1.what is the meaning of PV? 2.Although there are lots of this warning,my server works still well. Could someone explain the meaning of this warning ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 05:51:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329781065678 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:51:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from zhbdzmsp-nwas15.bluewin.ch (nwas15.bluewin.ch [195.186.100.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54D18FC12 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [62.203.133.123] ([62.203.133.123:64573] helo=saturn.pcs.ms) by zhbdzmsp-nwas15.bluewin.ch (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.45 r()) with ESMTP id 68/FD-23250-C322D4C4; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:51:28 +0000 Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6Q5H7wC007375 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:17:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o6Q5H7vh007374; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:17:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:17:06 +0200 From: Martin Schweizer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100726051706.GA7366@saturn.pcs.ms> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Cannot print from Opera X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:51:27 -0000 [Sorry for the nosy post again but I did a typo] Hello My system: FreeBSD 8.1 AMD64, KDE 4.4.5, cups-base-1.4.3 I can print from Firefox, OpenOffice and all KDE applications over cups but not from Opera: - opera-10.10.20091120_2 - opera-linuxplugins-10.10.20091120_2 I also checked http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/481/ but with no luck (and tried a view other things). If I print from the file menu nothing occurs (no error messages in /var/log/ too or I did not find it...). Any ideas? -- Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 08:10:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000A71065673 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from mxin.ulb.ac.be (mxin.ulb.ac.be [164.15.128.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23858FC12 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:10:22 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjsCAM7WTEykD30E/2dsb2JhbAAHgw2QBbthkE2EQ3MEiAg Received: from bebif01.ulb.ac.be (HELO [10.0.0.194]) ([164.15.125.4]) by smtp.ulb.ac.be with ESMTP; 26 Jul 2010 10:10:22 +0200 Message-ID: <4C4D42E9.7000400@ulb.ac.be> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:10:17 +0200 From: Julien Cigar Organization: Belgian Biodiversity Platform User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100621 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C4D21B8.3010608@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C4D21B8.3010608@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010308030007020603070801" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: What is the meaning of this warn? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:10:24 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010308030007020603070801 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 07/26/2010 07:48, Jason wrote: > HI,ALL: Hello, > > My freebsd server offer service to thousands of clients. > I found lots of warning in the /var/log/message like this :"Approaching > the limit on PV entries, consider increasing either the > vm.pmap.shpgperproc or the vm.pmap.pv_entry_max tunable" > You probably have a lot of processes which use shared memory ..? Enabling superpages (vm.pmap.pg_ps_enabled=1 in loader.conf) should resolve the problem (superpages have been added in 7.2) > My question is : > 1.what is the meaning of PV? > 2.Although there are lots of this warning,my server works still well. > Could someone explain the meaning of this warning ? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --------------010308030007020603070801-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 08:17:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C29F106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:17:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396C28FC12 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:17:34 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgoHAJfhTEzUnw4U/2dsb2JhbACTGYxHcb5khTYE Received: from outmx08.plus.net ([212.159.14.20]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 26 Jul 2010 09:17:33 +0100 Received: from helix.plus.com ([84.92.153.232] helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by outmx08.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1OdIsP-0004n2-2x; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:17:33 +0100 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OdIsO-0000pJ-Ni; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:17:32 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:17:32 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <29262747.post@talk.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <29262747.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201007260917.32632.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: zaxis Subject: Re: I donot like using mergemaster ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:17:35 -0000 On Monday 26 July 2010, zaxis wrote: > I want to upgrade my freebsd 8.0 to 8.1. I have read all the steps > about upgrading freebsd. I feel mergemaster is difficult to use e.g. > which parameters should i use ? (you may wish to use -U or -ai or > -Fi) I have the following in /etc/mergemaster.rc instead of having to remember the command line options each time: # Install the new file if it differs only by VCS Id (-F) FREEBSD_ID=yes # # Automatically upgrade files that have not been user modified (-U) AUTO_UPGRADE=yes # # Automatically install files not on the system already (-i) AUTO_INSTALL=yes # # Preserve files that you replace PRESERVE_FILES=yes # # Delete stale files in /etc/rc.d without prompting DELETE_STALE_RC_FILES=yes # # Compare /etc/rc.conf[.local] to /etc/defaults/rc.conf (-C) COMP_CONFS=yes # ###################################################### # The following options have no command line overrides ###################################################### # # Files to always avoid comparing IGNORE_FILES='/etc/motd /etc/printcap' # # Additional options for diff. This will get unset when using -s. DIFF_OPTIONS='-Bb' # Ignore changes in whitespace -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 13:15:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6BD106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 91F5E8FC13 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:15:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18717 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jul 2010 13:15:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 26 Jul 2010 13:15:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=IJJWDQqoAQ2fMZAVZrf0ZXht0YcX7F3f9uf43+Jl8KLgtcMBL2wrs1EIwNFEDqn8wtZoPHeTYv/9KcOy3UsctJf9FZJAokMy7oa9Z13rOC4V8K//cfgIuJ3tmHal137l; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OdNXB-0000Td-Ua for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:15:59 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:14:04 -0600 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:14:04 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100726131404.GA89843@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100724185925.GA69480@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20100724214725.GA82251@guilt.hydra> <20100725134730.GA5685@RawFedDogs.net> <20100725172937.GB85893@guilt.hydra> <20100726052030.GA26133@RawFedDogs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100726052030.GA26133@RawFedDogs.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:15:59 -0000 --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:20:31AM -0500, Kevin Monceaux wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:29:37AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > >=20 > > Without downloading a PDF and reading it . . . do you know what Latin > > variant is used in that document? >=20 > No, without download and reading the PDF I wouldn't know what Latin > variant is used in that document. :-) Since it was only a 39K file, > there was no reason for me to worry about downloading it. =20 I meant "Can you tell me the answer to this question so I don't have to download it then see if I can figure it out?" >=20 > > Is it classical, church, or scientifically bastardized Latin (for > > instance)? I'm curious. >=20 > Yes, to all of the above. It has a chart showing a few pronunciations > including classical which it describes as the reconstructed ancient > pronunciation. It even includes an "English method" which is > basically pronouncing Latin words as if they were English words. Okay, thanks. That answers my question, and makes me want to actually download the thing. >=20 > > I know that in at least some contexts the Latin pronunciation is more > > "dee" than "dai" for daemon, and that "dee" is the pronunciation > > generally considered "correct" for server processes in Unix systems. > > Beyond that, it's entirely possible there are other pronunciations of > > which I am not aware -- though I'm pretty sure "day" is solely an > > artifact of people trying to figure out how to pronounce terms that > > contain the ae (or the =C3=A6 ligature) without actually trying to look= it up. >=20 > The above document describes ae in classical pronunciation as like ai > in aisle and in all other pronunciations like Latin =C4=93. It describes > Latin =C4=93 in all pronunciations, except the English method, as like a = in > plate. Going by the above the first syllable of daemon could be > pronounced like day. That's rather contrary to what I had learned (which is, admittedly, not a whole lot). I'll give the document a look. Thanks. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxNihwACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWwjwCg6QFWSEwHb1gRzPIZkX3M0bag 6rkAoPOUHLyrvLOEqQkJp/qIEQcRMKTz =wRxJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 13:52:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB591065670 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:52:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from smtp214.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp214.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBEA88FC08 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:52:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay11.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay11.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B0FF11B4083; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:52:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay11.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fsb-AT-thefsb.org) with ESMTPSA id 781F81B4141; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:52:12 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.10.0.080409 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:52:11 -0400 From: Tom Worster To: Chad Perrin , FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: Thread-Topic: BSD logo Thread-Index: Acssyb64ZoAG5QdBNEOGi4vsmRBy6w== In-Reply-To: <20100724215957.GA82371@guilt.hydra> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:52:15 -0000 On 7/24/10 5:59 PM, "Chad Perrin" wrote: > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:05:14AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: >> >> I'm reminded that the SATAN network scanner project used to ship a >> utility with the source code that would patch it to rename it >> "SANTA". I suppose someone could fork a new BSD distribution with an >> angel for a logo, to mollify these sorts of people. Call it >> BlessedBSD (BleSseD?) or something. ;) > > By the way . . . while I think a BelssedBSD fork is a ridiculous idea, > the name "BlessedBSD" is *brilliant*. Pronouncing it aloud makes the > high-quality pun buried in the name more obvious, for those who didn't > quite catch it on the first read-through. i agree. lovely name. the pagan connection is delectable. http://is.gd/dJRn3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 13:56:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14061065676 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:56:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from smtp214.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp214.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B098F8FC12 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:56:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay11.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay11.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7E8F61B4133 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay11.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fsb-AT-thefsb.org) with ESMTPSA id 5AF791B4079 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:40:27 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.10.0.080409 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:40:26 -0400 From: Tom Worster To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: BSD logo Thread-Index: AcssyBqCHuzAR1Wrlk+K3qxbvakJkA== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:56:24 -0000 On 7/23/10 10:01 PM, "Victor Skovorodnikov" wrote: > I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get > deterred by its un-Christian logo. to me, devils, daemons and demons are mythological critters like elves, pixies and bogey men. > Have you considered changing it to something else? Doesn't have to be an > angel, but perhaps something neutral ;-) ? everyone is free to interpret the image as the please. there are alternatives for anyone who, after due study of the horned cartoon character, concludes that freebsd is blasphemous. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 14:08:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0237106566C for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:08:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faust64@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3708FC0C for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:08:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3219587bwz.13 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:08:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=4+6vnM3MTk0iYXwYuS7FAqGZl3oapQ8q/bxWBLbVG/8=; b=oMKmhCzhhygf/F/CjBgC3ON0VDqRCUyam0BuQ3Ta1GjG+U+9h/A0tp/F/0KI1zEQ1y c0FUHuNi3hQAkz9Vm1upz6YibItefF58+YuMlyrJlYm4mQE3a5vuME4sC2ijVxWGfV8Y tm1GDxCEF4PbpzDQSv53BniPLci/UFZCY2WwE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=exBVGLxu6CdB3mkvLiWz7JozBknOrSY7whOyeI0846vlZ4eboXhM9MegrKJ8h5heKm QtDHj/laU4Kd4eZ8sBaP28/Gmtac7HSfklkgfE3+kHK4cSHinjNp7w/pgBqy0B3bd2cp BGH3H0lMfpYk0SpQR/Fgk66EpRt3aZeC3leio= Received: by 10.204.131.132 with SMTP id x4mr5823923bks.50.1280153277441; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:07:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.120.197 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:07:27 -0700 (PDT) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_Mart=EDn_Moro?= Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:07:27 +0200 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: 8.1-RELEASE ia64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:08:07 -0000 Hi I would like to install FreeBSD-8.1 ia64, so I downloaded FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-ia64-disc1.iso. When I boot from a burnt CD, the screen keeps black, with the blinkingunderscore, nothing else happend. When I make an USB bootable stick, I've got a message saying that /boot/loader was not found. Having a look into /boot, I noticed that indeed, there's no loader anymore. But there a loader.efi, which wasn't in FreeBSD-7.2-RELEASE (the last I tried). I tried copying loader.efi to loader, but as expected, it says me 'invalid format' and still does not want to boot... What happened to loader? Did I download the wrong iso? Did I miss something? Also, why other archs have their -memstick.img, and ia64 have not? Thanks, Samuel Mart=EDn Moro {EPITECH.} tek4 CamTrace S.A.S (+033) 1 41 38 37 60 1 All=E9e de la Venelle 92150 Suresnes FRANCE "Nobody wants to say how this works. Maybe nobody knows ..." Xorg.conf(5) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 14:19:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7E5106566C for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:19:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE5D8FC1B for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OdOWv-0001ZA-8G; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:19:45 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1OdOWv-0002k0-3u; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:19:45 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6QEJims036976; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:19:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o6QEJit1036975; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:19:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:19:44 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Samuel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDn?= Moro Message-ID: <20100726141944.GA35718@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.1-RELEASE ia64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:19:47 -0000 On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 04:07:27PM +0200, Samuel Martín Moro wrote: > Hi > > I would like to install FreeBSD-8.1 ia64, so I downloaded > FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-ia64-disc1.iso. > > When I boot from a burnt CD, the screen keeps black, with the > blinkingunderscore, > nothing else happend. > When I make an USB bootable stick, I've got a message saying that > /boot/loader was not found. > > Having a look into /boot, I noticed that indeed, there's no loader anymore. > But there a loader.efi, which wasn't in FreeBSD-7.2-RELEASE (the last I > tried). > I tried copying loader.efi to loader, but as expected, it says me 'invalid > format' and still does not want to boot... > > What happened to loader? > Did I download the wrong iso? probably.. Perhaps you meant amd64? What's your computer make/model? > Also, why other archs have their -memstick.img, and ia64 have not? ia64 wouldn't boot via USB. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 14:33:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D38106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:33:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F19A8FC17 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:33:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OdOjx-0001F7-9O for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:33:13 +0200 Received: from pool-173-73-7-236.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.73.7.236]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:33:13 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-73-7-236.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:33:13 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:37:55 -0400 Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-73-7-236.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: 8.1-RELEASE ia64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:33:17 -0000 Samuel Martín Moro wrote: > Hi > > I would like to install FreeBSD-8.1 ia64, so I downloaded > FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-ia64-disc1.iso. > > When I boot from a burnt CD, the screen keeps black, with the > blinkingunderscore, > nothing else happend. > When I make an USB bootable stick, I've got a message saying that > /boot/loader was not found. > > Having a look into /boot, I noticed that indeed, there's no loader > anymore. But there a loader.efi, which wasn't in FreeBSD-7.2-RELEASE (the > last I tried). > I tried copying loader.efi to loader, but as expected, it says me 'invalid > format' and still does not want to boot... Perfectly normal and to be expected. IA64 utilizes a different boot loader paradigm known as EFI. More info on EFI can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Firmware_Interface > What happened to loader? > Did I download the wrong iso? Probably. The IA64 architecture is a completely different beast than x86. If your processor is a Xeon or some other regular Intel desktop type you need to use the amd64 iso image. > Did I miss something? > > Also, why other archs have their -memstick.img, and ia64 have not? > Maybe IA64 will not boot from USB because of the EFI boot loader requirement. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 15:27:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47713106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:27:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@solensky.org) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5998FC17 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:27:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.77]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 26 Jul 2010 10:58:31 -0400 Received: (from ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net [66.129.232.2]) by ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.1.9-GA) with HTTP/1.1 id AIM32178 (AUTH fenwayfrank@rcn.com); Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:58:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Solensky To: "Tom Worster" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: Mirapoint Webmail Direct 4.1.9-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20100726105831.AIM32178@ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:58:31 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:27:36 -0000 ---- Original message ---- >Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:40:26 -0400 >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (on behalf of Tom Worster ) >Subject: Re: BSD logo >To: > >On 7/23/10 10:01 PM, "Victor Skovorodnikov" wrote: > >> I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get >> deterred by its un-Christian logo. > >to me, devils, daemons and demons are mythological critters like elves, >pixies and bogey men. fwiw: the first time I saw the logo it reminded me of the gremlin in the Bugs Bunny cartoon "Falling Hare" (see wikipedia). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 15:39:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A106106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@balholm.com) Received: from mail.my180.net (pop1-levy.go180.net [216.229.186.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500E88FC18 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:39:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26710 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jul 2010 15:39:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (andy@balholm.com@63.224.217.218) by mail.my180.net with ESMTPA; 26 Jul 2010 15:39:13 -0000 From: Andy Balholm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:39:12 -0700 Message-Id: <8B2A21F8-53F0-4392-AFB7-0ACD9A250B57@balholm.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:39:14 -0000 David Brodbeck wrote:=20 > It also hasn't escaped my notice that the original poster has never = come back to this thread; I suspect we've been trolled, folks. That's possible. It's also possible that, after reading the responses to = his inquiry, the original poster decided that his question had been = adequately answered, his concerns were justified, and he should use a = different operating system. If so, I can hardly blame him, even though I = personally feel that boycotting BSD because of its mascot doesn't fit = very well with the apostle Paul's advice to the Corinthian Christians = that it was OK for them to buy from butchers who "sacrifice to daemons" = (my own translation of "=CE=B4=CE=B1=CE=B9=CE=BC=CE=BF=CE=BD=CE=AF=CE=BF=CE= =B9=CF=82 =CE=B8=CF=8D=CE=B5=CE=B9" in 1 Corinthians 10:20). The original post looks to me like an expression of sincere concern = about BSD's image, not an accusation of satanism or an attempt to start = an argument. I wouldn't call his concern ignorant either: although the = UNIX term "daemon" is not satanic in origin, some aspects of Beastie's = appearance are obviously derived from traditional depictions of the = Devil.=20 Andy Balholm (509) 276-2065 andy@balholm.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 16:15:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94A41065673 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:15:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7536C8FC08 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:15:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk32 with SMTP id 32so2423540qyk.13 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.20.2 with SMTP id d2mr6271455qab.101.1280160934626; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m24sm4266102qck.41.2010.07.26.09.15.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 25EB3E54826 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:15:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:15:31 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100726121531.7f9f5720@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <8B2A21F8-53F0-4392-AFB7-0ACD9A250B57@balholm.com> References: <8B2A21F8-53F0-4392-AFB7-0ACD9A250B57@balholm.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:15:36 -0000 On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:39:12 -0700 Andy Balholm articulated: > David Brodbeck wrote: > > It also hasn't escaped my notice that the original poster has never > > come back to this thread; I suspect we've been trolled, folks. > > That's possible. It's also possible that, after reading the responses > to his inquiry, the original poster decided that his question had > been adequately answered, his concerns were justified, and he should > use a different operating system. If so, I can hardly blame him, even > though I personally feel that boycotting BSD because of its mascot > doesn't fit very well with the apostle Paul's advice to the > Corinthian Christians that it was OK for them to buy from butchers > who "sacrifice to daemons" (my own translation of "δαιμονίοις θÏει" > in 1 Corinthians 10:20). > > The original post looks to me like an expression of sincere concern > about BSD's image, not an accusation of satanism or an attempt to > start an argument. I wouldn't call his concern ignorant either: > although the UNIX term "daemon" is not satanic in origin, some > aspects of Beastie's appearance are obviously derived from > traditional depictions of the Devil. I have always been partial to a passage by a famous American author. Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion — several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself and cuts his throat if his theology isn’t straight. Mark Twain -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ We don't know who discovered water, but we're certain it wasn't a fish. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 16:22:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB6B1065670 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:22:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linnemannr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9D18FC1C for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:22:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywf9 with SMTP id 9so451498ywf.13 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:22:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=VG8y4ZqaqGSV4AWCB6ZB2a1WZcFqBoVUvj7U6inaTtI=; b=FmC+BtKpzYpdBwEwcb+Pv/x8SbqPzbTQpH/hKp1y/QhWwZKwXcrzgF3polo5RMp0+T i8vxc3WR+WcwU6sQt6aIrtFWC1yRYK6Ru5TI5YC3yxkxujsosEwWqVFRWIPBVdhA/xT3 qXaKrCv5dymvxHsq7Re8dtQywSEAG5fO/DPOU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=N/O0TTyJ46NWznioX8wABGJZNa9yFMr7dPl//1pBv0aSewHaMv1JvRrqtKxS78J+kT xLtpinVSTEih2VeypKnnOkOwGnOxVQnMEiMirv+z96oq2H265WQ20Eg1kH4H7pAjOd96 RDdH+aVc/eeSLNZxY5TmRgAkkbEhYOXh1jZeM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.52.4 with SMTP id e4mr388489ybk.243.1280159722625; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Sender: linnemannr@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.152.19 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:55:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8B2A21F8-53F0-4392-AFB7-0ACD9A250B57@balholm.com> References: <8B2A21F8-53F0-4392-AFB7-0ACD9A250B57@balholm.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:55:22 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ega7_EoF8Ga0KBZ58PIjtrBE1Dk Message-ID: From: Reid Linnemann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:22:06 -0000 Suffice it to say, though there are many intuitive comments I think that ultimately we are beating a dead horse with another dead horse while standing on a dead horse. The corpses are starting to reek. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 16:35:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D972A1065677 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:35:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ken@mthelicon.com) Received: from hercules.mthelicon.com (hercules.mthelicon.com [IPv6:2001:49f0:2023::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8068FC12 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:35:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from feathers.peganest.com (feathers.peganest.com [78.33.110.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by hercules.mthelicon.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6QGZErq096831; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:35:15 GMT (envelope-from ken@mthelicon.com) From: Pegasus Mc Cleaft Organization: Feathers To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:35:13 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/9.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.4.5; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201007261635.13806.ken@mthelicon.com> Cc: Chad Perrin , Tom Worster Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:35:17 -0000 > > By the way . . . while I think a BelssedBSD fork is a ridiculous idea, > > the name "BlessedBSD" is *brilliant*. Pronouncing it aloud makes the > > high-quality pun buried in the name more obvious, for those who didn't > > quite catch it on the first read-through. > > i agree. lovely name. the pagan connection is delectable. > http://is.gd/dJRn3 > After the install, does it say SoMoteItBSD? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 16:54:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4CB0106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:54:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750308FC13 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:54:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3326940bwz.13 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:54:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=PLU149Kt7EovwFXQH/EDxBq4f9pA6QYG/sGEddT3Iuk=; b=Hp29lPCrzW/HKWQmvjeRocPOraj5EY9HZkTQSpSQklm7w/SaQFX27fpJa9spA4fdHi mc28kZ5qHMWh17SmqVbzOVuyxsgk71BCmlrrbd3p/qpPz3asYXdlV/CsZYJA9NodohUY zD4WEaoAkcBO0JcpAEGpNZFj3c223CevpHQTQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=sae5q6UtY50Mf8hstdckpyFpT+StlJJnn56+qrBgAK5zIlm1mDMzcr+ckvhJfxZDwI aWsid9gcxexf80IbN2o7X2VmIPiFgMoBHjqslNHM+Z+iGj/meq6ezML1ZNGVeNQgzqvB AQthJfS9cNremL26Q3ijnxEq1gEgeqzDNzj24= Received: by 10.204.45.207 with SMTP id g15mr5836028bkf.14.1280163260248; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:54:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.48.76 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:54:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8B2A21F8-53F0-4392-AFB7-0ACD9A250B57@balholm.com> References: <8B2A21F8-53F0-4392-AFB7-0ACD9A250B57@balholm.com> From: Zbigniew Szalbot Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:54:05 +0200 Message-ID: To: Andy Balholm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:54:22 -0000 Hello, On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 17:39, Andy Balholm wrote: > The original post looks to me like an expression of sincere concern about BSD's image I'd say, if the logo is hard to cope with for some, then they may be comforted in something of a far more importance than the logo - FreeBSD bottom line is "power to serve" - a very Christian concept, though unfortunately often forgotten. :) Add reliability, openness and a friendly followers on top of that and you have got a very attractive package that would be hard to beat. Warm regards, -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.slowo.pl www.fairtrade.net.pl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 17:26:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66B3106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:26:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonio@antonioshome.net) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667D48FC12 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:26:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so440865wwe.31 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.161.71 with SMTP id v49mr1194584wek.94.1280165209009; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from antonio.localnet (247.pool85-49-219.dynamic.orange.es [85.49.219.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 2sm2085687wey.24.2010.07.26.10.26.48 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:26:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C4DC4FA.6070400@antonioshome.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:25:14 +0200 From: Antonio Vieiro User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100630 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:26:50 -0000 Hi all, For those trying to test OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE (no official package yet): This: ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/3.2.1/i386/OOo_3.2.1_FreeBSD81Intel_install_es.tbz From ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/3.2.1/i386/ is working for me. (I now most of you already knew this, but I didn't!, I'm a FreeBSD newbie!) Cheers, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 17:33:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4721065670 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:33:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863DF8FC16 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OdRMC-0000A1-Po for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:20:54 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:33:18 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:33:18 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100726173318.GC25072@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C4DC4FA.6070400@antonioshome.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Fig2xvG2VGoz8o/s" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C4DC4FA.6070400@antonioshome.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:33:24 -0000 --Fig2xvG2VGoz8o/s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Antonio Vieiro on Monday, 26 July 2010: > Hi all, >=20 > For those trying to test OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE (no=20 > official package yet): >=20 > This: > ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/3.2.1/i386/OOo_= 3.2.1_FreeBSD81Intel_install_es.tbz >=20 > From > ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/3.2.1/i386/ >=20 > is working for me. >=20 > (I now most of you already knew this, but I didn't!, I'm a FreeBSD newbie= !) >=20 > Cheers, > Antonio Umm... what's wrong with the port? Works okay here (well, as OK as OpenOffice.org ever is). --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --Fig2xvG2VGoz8o/s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMTcbeAAoJEIpckszW26+Rm1UH/3xjpqv4PJaLQFqcuoeZARzl mzfJJ6sOCXpybLpXlIMs7wlUdG2YTPFUxDFA7Cbo8LKerWRaQq9/fzy8jZr2Yzbv dgUANa9MbQAcFMAxdC1JczkYhHWqaoQN5rB7cvZE1n0OIC3SUggL4PGu8d3vZBw0 LcznF6biwpcNR8R/prizAUKYfv9M8nRfHAUb/J/5vooji2W68B3DaRTOI+CxUoVn gmubPKWvoc1meJ9W5IItAFXUAun9lskCpWdN7LiP/uHt55s0l5uWOuy60Xt2cCgR gNvblh2qd02+9yu7hhxc5mhPKtJB83TDXaJ4wLPvwEi5VJOCPr5WRmDrhjqzSdo= =n3Yy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Fig2xvG2VGoz8o/s-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 18:00:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BB41065679 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:00:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8028FC0A for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:00:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4so1163332gyg.13 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:00:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PyAAYtkZw4702pFZela1j9vqSw+Pqid7Ivtu5v68REc=; b=o22By33j9lWi4vlakxbt38UbnvRqazmZfJvxHpvRqGqGqJ9frZPxK6m/lk7Xypj7ZH GGcYR5NZyJBQzMJRPvpsajNAX9de0XxOc0r4aFdrGqGQ1PJjRm0eoKxZD95GxzJFlgF/ 0FPG/3JHB3JTyB5zY+FC4IFd9uUATHBCoUyoU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qDigCmWU2Pk4hNkI/3uPlgSphPW8usYTjI1d+KTVbKflL6GkmS7xmUWOrW69KDYA6d dqE6xHMSefarbyw2GXvaGHB8XGH7KFl4A9LXKBO6x/jdCCQFCgjpE1Kde7CQ/V/d6n+y MP/g7FuDgp3EdFMGVDAMVp3DcRSN+5KdxzmNE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.75.17 with SMTP id c17mr8198854anl.128.1280167246806; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.15.73 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:00:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100726173318.GC25072@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <4C4DC4FA.6070400@antonioshome.net> <20100726173318.GC25072@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:00:46 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:00:47 -0000 On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Antonio Vieiro on Monday, 26 July 2010: >> Hi all, >> >> For those trying to test OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE (no >> official package yet): >> >> This: >> ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/3.2.1/i386/OOo= _3.2.1_FreeBSD81Intel_install_es.tbz >> >> From >> ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/3.2.1/i386/ >> >> is working for me. >> >> (I now most of you already knew this, but I didn't!, I'm a FreeBSD newbi= e!) >> >> Cheers, >> Antonio > > Umm... what's wrong with the port? =A0Works okay here (well, as OK as > OpenOffice.org ever is). > > -- > Sterling (Chip) Camden =A0 =A0| sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978= E4F > http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0| http://= chipsquips.com > Compiling OpenOffice is not a practical option for many of us due to hardware restraints. I'm glad to see that there's a compiled binary somewhere! Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 18:35:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822A21065674 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=8162412f7=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-002.utdallas.edu (ip-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543FE8FC1D for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:35:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: None X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AroFACdvTUyBbgogUmdsb2JhbACTGYxSASRBw3SFNgSECA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,262,1278306000"; d="scan'208";a="34321457" Received: from zxtm01.utdallas.edu (HELO utd65257.utdallas.edu) ([129.110.10.32]) by ip-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 26 Jul 2010 13:24:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:24:21 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:35:02 -0000 --On Saturday, July 24, 2010 00:24:46 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: > > When this is the way someone starts a "discussion" about wanting to use a > new OS, I tend to believe there is no genuine interest in using the OS in > question. When this is the way one answers a simple question, I tend to believe there's no genuine interest in dialog. I am therefore left to wonder who really is the intolerant one. One cannot claim to be tolerant while demonstrating intolerance any more than one can claim to be educated without every having read a book. It's amazing to me the ridicule heaped upon the man for asking a question. Would it have been too difficult to simply answer the question, as the first response did? No, we have to attack the man for having beliefs that are different from our own. Because we're so enlightened? Or because we are even more ignorant than we suppose he is? -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 18:47:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485191065674 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:47:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACD98FC17 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:47:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyh6 with SMTP id 6so596520eyh.13 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:47:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=u4SlBzvwv/AVlxkTptNrS8fCZpATVeAhoxKzA4BFNzo=; b=faiShhjcY8FXV1l+Q5Bwt9812yI3v9e8APanCt1fgFoXZXlh56fd4A9dju8Y+7Ig2Q lh4AkoYetqh9oild8Iq+ZJLBeKEFjI1Ey+LS97hVlgfC2QYgExJwcZr7lBX1oVYv/yle yvYDc5+TwZIc7G5vy1iVAs5XnXvfATNC/cQYY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Y1jli8ZYjJkUp+ZXhz/Q39ujro2rxMFj7f19hutAIRZ0CwHuh/T7huCsmAtMoXleBf aUzYxyNOOQr8AHeIug5I701m339i1V8XjQMAMQZdHIyDzoybDc3F0I5Ra3QkATNtxvKD LRJJOjbhNdioW9zIYfEHGD8bPdkrgE8ywPyuE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.37.2 with SMTP id x2mr449399eea.42.1280170063300; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.29.71 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:47:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:47:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Paul Schmehl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:47:45 -0000 On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: > When this is the way one answers a simple question, I tend to believe > there's no genuine interest in dialog. I am therefore left to wonder who > really is the intolerant one. One cannot claim to be tolerant while > demonstrating intolerance any more than one can claim to be educated without > every having read a book. > > It's amazing to me the ridicule heaped upon the man for asking a question. > Would it have been too difficult to simply answer the question, as the first > response did? No, we have to attack the man for having beliefs that are > different from our own. Because we're so enlightened? Or because we are > even more ignorant than we suppose he is? > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Because people like that impose their beliefs on others. Let's not pretend that the end-goal of initiating that "dialog" is anything other than "change it due to my beliefs" or a troll. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 18:54:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BA6106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F508FC0C for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28807 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2010 18:54:44 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Jul 2010 18:54:44 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id BAF6E5084D; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:54:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Petre Bandac References: <1938630988-1279780950-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1345666249-@bda088.bisx.produk.on.blackberry> <44mxtgx1sl.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <4C4CDBB3.8010005@kgb.ro> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:54:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4C4CDBB3.8010005@kgb.ro> (Petre Bandac's message of "Mon, 26 Jul 2010 03:49:55 +0300") Message-ID: <44mxtexedp.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port upgrade problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:54:45 -0000 Petre Bandac writes: > Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> "Petre Bandac" writes: >> >>> While upgrading port, I have the following problems: >>> - some cfg files are overwritten (authdaemon's authmysqlrc) >> >> I can't figure out what port that comes from, so I can't help. > > courier-authlib-mysql-0.63.0_1 - the file is > /usr/local/etc/authlib/authmysqlrc According to the plist info, it shouldn't be installed at all; just "etc/authlib/authmysqlrc.dist". On delete, it will only be removed if identical to authmysqlrc.dist. >>> - some make install options are not kept (maildrop - not compiled against mysql and courier imap - fam is compiled, even though initially was ruled out) >> >> Those aren't set up as OPTIONS, so they won't get stored in >> /var/db/ports. >> >>> The upgrade sequence is: >>> >>> # portsnap fetch update >>> # portmanager -u >>> >>> Am I doing something wrong? >> >> See "alternative configuration" in the portmanager manual. > > I guess that is what I need, thank you > > however, I don't remember to have had this problem until now (i.e. > options not being kept @ update); or they had the same behavior ? It's always been this way. This was the reason behind adding the "OPTIONS" mechanism, but not all optional features are set up that way. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 18:55:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1E8106568A for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:55:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from smtp-gw30.mailanyone.net (smtp-gw30.mailanyone.net [208.70.128.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB7A8FC15 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:55:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailanyone.net by smtp-gw30.mailanyone.net with esmtpa (MailAnyone extSMTP jalmberg@identry.com) id 1OdSps-0001f8-GS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:55:37 -0500 Message-ID: <4C4DDA28.4070205@identry.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:55:36 -0400 From: John Almberg User-Agent: Postbox 1.1.5 (Macintosh/20100613) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 1 file system, 2 drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:55:38 -0000 One of my clients has a server that hosts big public-access type videos. He started off with a separate 200G drive just for video storage (FreeBSD is on another drive). This video storage drive is mounted as /videos. He's just bought another drive, but now I'm thinking of what to do with it... I know this is probably impossible, but FreeBSD can do so many miraculous things, that I can't help asking... Is it possible to use the second drive to 'expand' the /videos file system? So it would miraculously look like a single 400G drive? I ask this, because logically, I"m going to use the second drive the same way as the first: to store videos. It will be really awkward to have two mount points, and try to decide which video should get stored on which drive. And no doubt it will get more complex as we go along. It would be much simpler if this logical drive could just expand as needed. Any ideas much appreciated. -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 19:05:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B101065688 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC618FC1C for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:05:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OdSz1-0004IK-Vt for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:05:03 +0200 Received: from 193.33.173.33 ([193.33.173.33]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:05:03 +0200 Received: from c.kworr by 193.33.173.33 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:05:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:02:31 +0300 Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <4C4DDA28.4070205@identry.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.33.173.33 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; uk-UA; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100722 Thunderbird/3.0.6 In-Reply-To: <4C4DDA28.4070205@identry.com> Subject: Re: 1 file system, 2 drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:05:05 -0000 26.07.2010 21:55, John Almberg wrote: > One of my clients has a server that hosts big public-access type videos. > He started off with a separate 200G drive just for video storage > (FreeBSD is on another drive). This video storage drive is mounted as > /videos. > > He's just bought another drive, but now I'm thinking of what to do with > it... > > I know this is probably impossible, but FreeBSD can do so many > miraculous things, that I can't help asking... > > Is it possible to use the second drive to 'expand' the /videos file > system? So it would miraculously look like a single 400G drive? > > I ask this, because logically, I"m going to use the second drive the > same way as the first: to store videos. It will be really awkward to > have two mount points, and try to decide which video should get stored > on which drive. And no doubt it will get more complex as we go along. It > would be much simpler if this logical drive could just expand as needed. > > Any ideas much appreciated. Making two devices appear as one: * vinum; * gstripe; * ZFS. Making two devices look like there's only one: * union. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 19:05:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172EB106566C for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:05:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout028.mac.com (asmtpout028.mac.com [17.148.16.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3DB88FC1C for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:05:29 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp028.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L6600E3UICH3P40@asmtp028.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:05:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1007260141 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-07-26_04:2010-07-26, 2010-07-26, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <4C4DDA28.4070205@identry.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:05:04 -0700 Message-id: <980022A0-7623-40A5-BCDE-4909A721933D@mac.com> References: <4C4DDA28.4070205@identry.com> To: John Almberg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 1 file system, 2 drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:05:30 -0000 Hi, John-- On Jul 26, 2010, at 11:55 AM, John Almberg wrote: > I know this is probably impossible, but FreeBSD can do so many miraculous things, that I can't help asking... > > Is it possible to use the second drive to 'expand' the /videos file system? So it would miraculously look like a single 400G drive? The canonical way of doing this is to either create a RAID-0 concat or stripe volume. Using RAID-0 striping is preferred due to performance, but you'd need to backup, reformat using a RAID-0 stripe, and then restore your data onto the new volume. In theory, setting up a concat is less intrusive, but if the data is already mounted and in use, you'll probably still need to unmount it first. If you have hardware controller with RAID capabilities, using native RAID is better, otherwise look towards gvinum or maybe ccd; see also: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/raid.html Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 19:11:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78068106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:11:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from smtp-gw30.mailanyone.net (smtp-gw30.mailanyone.net [208.70.128.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7268FC1F for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:11:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailanyone.net by smtp-gw30.mailanyone.net with esmtpa (MailAnyone extSMTP jalmberg@identry.com) id 1OdT5c-0001LW-1O; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:11:52 -0500 Message-ID: <4C4DDDF7.60704@identry.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:11:51 -0400 From: John Almberg User-Agent: Postbox 1.1.5 (Macintosh/20100613) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <4C4DDA28.4070205@identry.com> <980022A0-7623-40A5-BCDE-4909A721933D@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <980022A0-7623-40A5-BCDE-4909A721933D@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 1 file system, 2 drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:11:53 -0000 Volodymyr/Chuck, >> Is it possible to use the second drive to 'expand' the /videos file system? So it would miraculously look like a single 400G drive? >> > > The canonical way of doing this is to either create a RAID-0 concat or stripe volume. > Wow, of course... I should have thought of that. Something like that should be just what the Dr. ordered. I will look into it. Thanks: John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 19:12:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE048106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03C28FC14 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj9 with SMTP id 9so244814pwj.13 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:12:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/G6lQWYF4Ip9n4gZzYBpCJh1qK8tComh6cI2aC/oB/8=; b=H4Xr6PLZor+3XfHnmCsnyslyl5rtpmJoCd5LqRoIFIvGdV+mMYxPllqDeMQhIKOHth aOi9YDzJJRQ7KeZD4wlBBmsu+zECv1uQd3tlvXvyu9dED5SHumiMQpp8q8j1di/l0oyW mQG7ZI/1vCN27tltMtHN2vD+kK/DSE5nA3wKs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=cZHj7cNWCmFX4nvOuo1NSdiKDHq5BLn7g/LishY2VM7DQgmzREoPqKX4kjQcyQnY39 fZOOVOb7ZyS8fuwH/fMbvKRqg81XRBkCWmP6RsLj31jez3MHwhsUL8ckMhMUnX996RPB lx7wPKgFXjenXvQT8TDSFeUsNxqf9B7z/lGEg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.194.15 with SMTP id r15mr9409967wff.276.1280171571833; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.29.71 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:12:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <980022A0-7623-40A5-BCDE-4909A721933D@mac.com> References: <4C4DDA28.4070205@identry.com> <980022A0-7623-40A5-BCDE-4909A721933D@mac.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:12:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Chuck Swiger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: John Almberg , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 1 file system, 2 drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:12:53 -0000 On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Hi, John-- > > On Jul 26, 2010, at 11:55 AM, John Almberg wrote: > > I know this is probably impossible, but FreeBSD can do so many miraculous > things, that I can't help asking... > > > > Is it possible to use the second drive to 'expand' the /videos file > system? So it would miraculously look like a single 400G drive? > > The canonical way of doing this is to either create a RAID-0 concat or > stripe volume. Using RAID-0 striping is preferred due to performance, but > you'd need to backup, reformat using a RAID-0 stripe, and then restore your > data onto the new volume. In theory, setting up a concat is less intrusive, > but if the data is already mounted and in use, you'll probably still need to > unmount it first. > > If you have hardware controller with RAID capabilities, using native RAID > is better, otherwise look towards gvinum or maybe ccd; see also: > There is also gconcat(8), IMO much easier than gvinum although not all the power either. ZFS sort has this as well, if you replace devices with bigger devices the pool with grow to the size of the smallest device. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 20:17:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256131065670 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAEDA8FC12 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o6QKGm7K084151 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:16:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o6QKGmhe084150 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:16:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:16:48 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100726201648.GB84110@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <20100724174634.GE50085@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <4c4bee5a.FbeaX7BIKcgmxnfL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20100725182359.GA34005@comcast.net> <4C4CAFB6.9000703@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100725224126.GB34005@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100725224126.GB34005@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:17:16 -0000 On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 03:41:27PM -0700, Charlie Kester wrote: > On Sun 25 Jul 2010 at 14:42:14 PDT Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > >Besides, I suspect that the OP was not in fact genuinely offended but > >merely trying to stir up trouble > > Which makes it all the more disappointing that so many of you took the > bait. > > I stand by my previous comments. Please end this thread, now. Oh, I have been enjoying it. ////jerry > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 20:28:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62CCF1065675 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:28:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faust64@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C048FC28 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:28:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3434615bwz.13 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:28:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=6/193kSMwn6oHogzzoO8ywV/E7AuRKQpo3m8lPLClL8=; b=BT2n96DU4qD5LDT+mVThqoZV/wcwz889TT34KPx4do6eHxpUE4OsanLoq3HjWLDN8a 7Dfdp5Ghj0F8dC1aZD9KDpWFa5whISxc5AQoqbyArgqVUxMfymedwSj/jZf2uoSKgb8F t1tXKlwh/FMlH3vV3mrh5VHmSLzWI38SHHAzc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=cvRiWcGfRB9IBLj6mD2h1F8u/KMrYf0EkaiikTERJaasc+0lN3MlKahPO7jdhVQvtU LT+9nrkJJtG29TnUrpDfJcXrUAKWdBchYpsfqQTa/ywB9tGn3VMyoxV6I8KC4ejroLEe lEJpt6ds8zkJ1hHhU/fHsMY5i7pKomd1woM2Q= Received: by 10.204.131.132 with SMTP id x4mr6155138bks.50.1280176097256; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:28:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.120.197 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:27:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_Mart=EDn_Moro?= Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:27:45 +0200 Message-ID: To: Michael Powell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.1-RELEASE ia64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:28:19 -0000 Oh right.. ok... sorry... I'll try amd64 Thanks for the heads up! Samuel Mart=EDn Moro {EPITECH.} tek4 CamTrace S.A.S (+033) 1 41 38 37 60 1 All=E9e de la Venelle 92150 Suresnes FRANCE "Nobody wants to say how this works. Maybe nobody knows ..." Xorg.conf(5) On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Michael Powell wro= te: > Samuel Mart=EDn Moro wrote: > > > Hi > > > > I would like to install FreeBSD-8.1 ia64, so I downloaded > > FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-ia64-disc1.iso. > > > > When I boot from a burnt CD, the screen keeps black, with the > > blinkingunderscore, > > nothing else happend. > > When I make an USB bootable stick, I've got a message saying that > > /boot/loader was not found. > > > > Having a look into /boot, I noticed that indeed, there's no loader > > anymore. But there a loader.efi, which wasn't in FreeBSD-7.2-RELEASE (t= he > > last I tried). > > I tried copying loader.efi to loader, but as expected, it says me > 'invalid > > format' and still does not want to boot... > > Perfectly normal and to be expected. IA64 utilizes a different boot loade= r > paradigm known as EFI. More info on EFI can be found here: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Firmware_Interface > > > What happened to loader? > > Did I download the wrong iso? > > Probably. The IA64 architecture is a completely different beast than x86. > If > your processor is a Xeon or some other regular Intel desktop type you nee= d > to use the amd64 iso image. > > > Did I miss something? > > > > Also, why other archs have their -memstick.img, and ia64 have not? > > > Maybe IA64 will not boot from USB because of the EFI boot loader > requirement. > > -Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 20:30:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48E21065670 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:30:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from smtp-gw30.mailanyone.net (smtp-gw30.mailanyone.net [208.70.128.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39BB8FC14 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:30:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailanyone.net by smtp-gw30.mailanyone.net with esmtpa (MailAnyone extSMTP jalmberg@identry.com) id 1OdUJk-0007ql-D2; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:30:33 -0500 Message-ID: <4C4DF067.7000801@identry.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:30:31 -0400 From: John Almberg User-Agent: Postbox 1.1.5 (Macintosh/20100613) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <4C4DDA28.4070205@identry.com> <980022A0-7623-40A5-BCDE-4909A721933D@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <980022A0-7623-40A5-BCDE-4909A721933D@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 1 file system, 2 drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:30:34 -0000 > If you have hardware controller with RAID capabilities, using native RAID is better, otherwise look towards gvinum or maybe ccd; see also: > I've just been reading up on RAID in my Absolute FreeBSD book, and it occurs to me that my client has a SCSI RAID drive chassis that he is using stupidly... It's a 14 bay drive, and he's currently got seven 32G drives stuck in it, configured with RAID-0. This is the original 200G drive I was talking about. It's a few years old. Over the next few years, this guy is going to need lots of storage for his videos. After a bit of reading, I'm wondering if the best idea might be to toss out those 32G drives and replace them with 3 big (say, 300G) drives configured with RAID-5. It sounds to me like a RAID-5 array can be expanded by adding new drives. QUESTION: is expansion normally a matter of just plugging in a new drive? Is the new drive automatically grafted onto the old drives? Or do you have to go through a process like, backing up the data, plugging in the new drive, reformatting the expanded array of drives, and restoring the data. I don't know the brand/model of the RAID drive chassis, but the client thinks it can be switched to use RAID 5. I'm waiting for the technical details, but assuming it can handle RAID-5 for now. Thanks: John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 20:53:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB0E106567A for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:53:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dak.col@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F3E8FC17 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:53:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj23 with SMTP id 23so297497gwj.13 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:53:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=8VvIer2HlfMQMnbiSkpV5wAd3x7d1yYSlr/YhDMznTI=; b=am7TnW4hgBNGTbheTGMXCZR4ZeBJtCiKB7ScRKVhpPiCKwlomLntRo0jvPgCUYMdAo kUUmXS/MPH5CCt+C/7eqvqz1OW/aWxdPj/kzqfqLjiZFt/17oSl0Rhj3U3z/+kUHhhrU xAXbUQpRqPhK3hTdfJ3WL5lT+UC3k3QQNq6Ck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=wTe1SQe6RFcvN6I61ozm9TiOAhAgBMwK84xZMCZ/UFj39XG9Gu0MzR3sXnezejYd0N ksVzqFjv5cRD04K0DMXq6WBFzfySMQ6i7k2pwMOC9Sw6f/iWCpirHaY+08HpaQ9PLFwO AKCSLffm6P3fnKlBrEXqy/W2GrOuwfq9/zRKs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.96.17 with SMTP id t17mr6365260agb.37.1280177605103; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.26.5 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:53:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C4DF067.7000801@identry.com> References: <4C4DDA28.4070205@identry.com> <980022A0-7623-40A5-BCDE-4909A721933D@mac.com> <4C4DF067.7000801@identry.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:53:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: Diego Arias To: John Almberg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 1 file system, 2 drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:53:26 -0000 On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:30 PM, John Almberg wrote: > > If you have hardware controller with RAID capabilities, using native RAID >> is better, otherwise look towards gvinum or maybe ccd; see also: >> >> > I've just been reading up on RAID in my Absolute FreeBSD book, and it > occurs to me that my client has a SCSI RAID drive chassis that he is using > stupidly... > > It's a 14 bay drive, and he's currently got seven 32G drives stuck in it, > configured with RAID-0. This is the original 200G drive I was talking about. > It's a few years old. > > Over the next few years, this guy is going to need lots of storage for his > videos. > > After a bit of reading, I'm wondering if the best idea might be to toss out > those 32G drives and replace them with 3 big (say, 300G) drives configured > with RAID-5. It sounds to me like a RAID-5 array can be expanded by adding > new drives. > > QUESTION: is expansion normally a matter of just plugging in a new drive? > Is the new drive automatically grafted onto the old drives? Or do you have > to go through a process like, backing up the data, plugging in the new > drive, reformatting the expanded array of drives, and restoring the data. > > I don't know the brand/model of the RAID drive chassis, but the client > thinks it can be switched to use RAID 5. I'm waiting for the technical > details, but assuming it can handle RAID-5 for now. > > Thanks: John > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi: If the Write-performance its not a problem go with 3 drives. If you need a good write performance go at least with 4 -or- use another RAID level. Maybe the RAID Controller allow RAID 5 Grow but im not shure if FreeBSD can handle it. -- mmm, interesante..... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 20:54:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775F4106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:54:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from smtp-gw30.mailanyone.net (smtp-gw30.mailanyone.net [208.70.128.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509308FC1C for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailanyone.net by smtp-gw30.mailanyone.net with esmtpa (MailAnyone extSMTP jalmberg@identry.com) id 1OdUgc-0008Tm-0W for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:54:10 -0500 Message-ID: <4C4DF5F1.4080109@identry.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:54:09 -0400 From: John Almberg User-Agent: Postbox 1.1.5 (Macintosh/20100613) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C4DDA28.4070205@identry.com> <980022A0-7623-40A5-BCDE-4909A721933D@mac.com> <4C4DF067.7000801@identry.com> In-Reply-To: <4C4DF067.7000801@identry.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 1 file system, 2 drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:54:11 -0000 John Almberg wrote: >> If you have hardware controller with RAID capabilities, using native >> RAID is better, otherwise look towards gvinum or maybe ccd; see also: > I've just been reading up on RAID in my Absolute FreeBSD book, and it > occurs to me that my client has a SCSI RAID drive chassis that he is > using stupidly... > > It's a 14 bay drive, and he's currently got seven 32G drives stuck in > it, configured with RAID-0. This is the original 200G drive I was > talking about. It's a few years old. > > Over the next few years, this guy is going to need lots of storage for > his videos. > > After a bit of reading, I'm wondering if the best idea might be to > toss out those 32G drives and replace them with 3 big (say, 300G) > drives configured with RAID-5. It sounds to me like a RAID-5 array can > be expanded by adding new drives. > > QUESTION: is expansion normally a matter of just plugging in a new > drive? Is the new drive automatically grafted onto the old drives? Or > do you have to go through a process like, backing up the data, > plugging in the new drive, reformatting the expanded array of drives, > and restoring the data. > > I don't know the brand/model of the RAID drive chassis, but the client > thinks it can be switched to use RAID 5. I'm waiting for the technical > details, but assuming it can handle RAID-5 for now. Answering my own question... So its a HP 6402 / 128 RAID controller. From a quick skim of the manual, it looks like the controller has to go through an 'expansion' process when adding a new drive. This sounds time consuming, but more or less automatic -- i.e., handled by the controller. Sounds like this might be the best way to go. -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 21:06:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFDAF106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:06:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B6B8FC18 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:06:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10141 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2010 21:06:17 -0000 Received: from dsl081-163-112.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO ringbill.gull.us) ([64.81.163.112]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 26 Jul 2010 21:06:17 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=www.gull.us) by ringbill.gull.us with esmtp (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OdUsL-000HvB-7n for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:06:17 -0700 Received: from d-69-91-158-215.dhcp4.washington.edu ([69.91.158.215]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user gull) by www.gull.us with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:06:17 -0700 Message-ID: <5fe257a732fe215609f88432ae3051d4.squirrel@www.gull.us> In-Reply-To: <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:06:17 -0700 From: "David Brodbeck" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:06:19 -0000 On Mon, July 26, 2010 11:24 am, Paul Schmehl wrote: > When this is the way one answers a simple question, I tend to believe > there's no genuine interest in dialog. Well, I hate to break it to you, but people who are trying to make a religious point aren't interested in dialog, anyway. In fact, it's pretty well impossible to have a dialog with them that gets anywhere. You can't have a sensible debate when the other person's fallback response is always "it's god's will, so it's beyond our understanding and we can't question it, and you're an evil person for not agreeing with me." These people have been taught from a young age that logic is evil and will lead them down the road to hell, so logical arguments are lost on them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 21:11:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774BA1065673 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:11:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395978FC0C for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emlpfilt4.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [10.1.10.26]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C10265C28 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:41:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from emlpfilt4.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id A6F052F8001 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:41:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ADVPHTCAS0.wradvisors.com (advphtcas0.wradvisors.com [192.168.203.228]) by emlpfilt4.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C74A578846 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:41:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPMBXV0.waddell.com ([169.254.1.108]) by ADVPHTCAS0.wradvisors.com ([192.168.203.228]) with mapi; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:41:20 -0500 From: Gary Gatten CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:41:19 -0500 Thread-Topic: 1 file system, 2 drives? Thread-Index: AcstAZvKD11I96c1QrmbduSR4p5WyAAAEPjg Message-ID: <29133_1280176880_4C4DF2F0_29133_203_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B4349968A910AE@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> References: <4C4DDA28.4070205@identry.com> <980022A0-7623-40A5-BCDE-4909A721933D@mac.com> <4C4DF067.7000801@identry.com> In-Reply-To: <4C4DF067.7000801@identry.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: 1 file system, 2 drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:11:27 -0000 >From my experience (YMMV), most RAID controllers will NOT redistribute the = existing data/files onto the newly added drives. So, if you have a (3) dri= ve RAID5 your file exists on all three drives, as does the parity data. If= you add (2) drives, your original files will not be on the new drives. Ne= w files WILL use all (5) drives. IMHO it's best to backup the data (twice)= , create a new volume on the new RAID, and restore the data. That said, ma= ybe better/newer RAID controllers will redistribute / balance existing data= across all drives in the array - I don't know for sure. Either way, backu= p your data - twice! And make sure it can be restored! Just because the b= ackup app SAYS it's OK, it's NOT OK until it can be successfully restored! Also, if you go from (7) drives to (3), your I/O may suffer. Newer faster = drives MAY make up the difference, or make up enough of it that it won't im= pact your client. Just be aware this is a potential issue. Generally spea= king more spindles =3D more I/O's / sec. G -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of John Almberg Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:31 PM To: Chuck Swiger Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 1 file system, 2 drives? > If you have hardware controller with RAID capabilities, using native RAID= is better, otherwise look towards gvinum or maybe ccd; see also: >=20=20=20=20 I've just been reading up on RAID in my Absolute FreeBSD book, and it=20 occurs to me that my client has a SCSI RAID drive chassis that he is=20 using stupidly... It's a 14 bay drive, and he's currently got seven 32G drives stuck in=20 it, configured with RAID-0. This is the original 200G drive I was=20 talking about. It's a few years old. Over the next few years, this guy is going to need lots of storage for=20 his videos. After a bit of reading, I'm wondering if the best idea might be to toss=20 out those 32G drives and replace them with 3 big (say, 300G) drives=20 configured with RAID-5. It sounds to me like a RAID-5 array can be=20 expanded by adding new drives. QUESTION: is expansion normally a matter of just plugging in a new=20 drive? Is the new drive automatically grafted onto the old drives? Or do=20 you have to go through a process like, backing up the data, plugging in=20 the new drive, reformatting the expanded array of drives, and restoring=20 the data. I don't know the brand/model of the RAID drive chassis, but the client=20 thinks it can be switched to use RAID 5. I'm waiting for the technical=20 details, but assuming it can handle RAID-5 for now. Thanks: John _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 21:22:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77AA1065673 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:22:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfl@robinlea.com) Received: from 28amen.org (28amen.org [204.3.153.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C098FC13 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:22:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (118.174.67.189.static.totbb.net [118.174.67.189] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by 28amen.org (8.14.4/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o6QLMREI071330 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:22:29 GMT Message-ID: <4C4DFC8E.80603@robinlea.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 04:22:22 +0700 From: John Francis Lee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100528 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: problem with ffmpeg port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:22:31 -0000 Hello, I have a VPS account at viaverio and am trying to install ffmpeg on my server. [jfl@28amen ~]$ uname -a FreeBSD 28amen.org 6.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE #6: Wed Oct 21 09:32:42 MDT 2009 root@fc:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/VKERN i386 I realize that that is an old version of FreeBSD, but there is nothing I can do about that. I tried sudo portinstall ffmpeg but after a long time downloading and compiling various packages it ends with ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! math/mpfr (unknown build error) * devel/binutils * multimedia/x264 * multimedia/ffmpeg-devel * multimedia/ffmpeg Viaverio support suggested that I cd /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg make install & make clean But... [jfl@28amen ~]$ cd /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg [jfl@28amen /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg]$ sudo make install Password: ===> ffmpeg-0.6_1,1 depends on executable: yasm - found ===> ffmpeg-0.6_1,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/as - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/as in /usr/ports/devel/binutils ===> binutils-2.20.1_3 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libgmp.so - found ===> binutils-2.20.1_3 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libmpfr.so - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/libmpfr.so in /usr/ports/math/mpfr ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> License accepted by the user ===> Extracting for mpfr-3.0.0 => MD5 Checksum OK for mpfr/mpfr-3.0.0.tar.xz. => SHA256 Checksum OK for mpfr/mpfr-3.0.0.tar.xz. ===> mpfr-3.0.0 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/xz - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/xz in /usr/ports/archivers/xz ===> Installing for xz-4.999.9_1 ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if archivers/xz already installed ===> An older version of archivers/xz is already installed (lzmautils-4.32.7) You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of archivers/xz without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" in your environment or the "make install" command line. *** Error code 1 Stop in /ports/archivers/xz. *** Error code 1 Stop in /ports/math/mpfr. *** Error code 1 Stop in /ports/devel/binutils. *** Error code 1 Stop in /ports/devel/binutils. *** Error code 1 Stop in /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg. *** Error code 1 Stop in /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg. I really need ffmpeg and hope that I can get some help here. Thanks. -- "This message may have been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA and/or the present government of Thailand without notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or recipient." John Francis Lee 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 21:29:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B88A106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:29:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout027.mac.com (asmtpout027.mac.com [17.148.16.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E638FC22 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:29:42 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp027.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L6600CQ3P1INT30@asmtp027.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:29:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1007260173 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-07-26_05:2010-07-26, 2010-07-26, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <4C4DFC8E.80603@robinlea.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:29:42 -0700 Message-id: References: <4C4DFC8E.80603@robinlea.com> To: John Francis Lee X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with ffmpeg port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:29:43 -0000 Hi-- On Jul 26, 2010, at 2:22 PM, John Francis Lee wrote: > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/xz in /usr/ports/archivers/xz > ===> Installing for xz-4.999.9_1 > ===> Generating temporary packing list > ===> Checking if archivers/xz already installed > ===> An older version of archivers/xz is already installed > (lzmautils-4.32.7) > You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again > by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. > If you really wish to overwrite the old port of archivers/xz > without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" > in your environment or the "make install" command line. > *** Error code 1 This is the relevant bit. You need to upgrade archivers/xz first by following the suggestions, or else use a tool like portupgrade/portmanager/etc... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 21:39:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0B41065670 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:39:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout027.mac.com (asmtpout027.mac.com [17.148.16.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5109A8FC16 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:39:16 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp027.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L6600CKLPHENT40@asmtp027.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:39:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1007260175 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-07-26_05:2010-07-26, 2010-07-26, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <4C4DFF56.5070804@uspvp.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:39:14 -0700 Message-id: <98B8ACBD-79D8-45E4-8842-C4A825A0F815@mac.com> References: <4C4DFC8E.80603@robinlea.com> <4C4DFF56.5070804@uspvp.org> To: John Francis Lee X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: problem with ffmpeg port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:39:16 -0000 On Jul 26, 2010, at 2:34 PM, John Francis Lee wrote: > Thanks > > [jfl@28amen /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg]$ cd ../../archivers/xz/ > [jfl@28amen /ports/archivers/xz]$ sudo make deinstall > Password: > ===> Deinstalling for archivers/xz > [jfl@28amen /ports/archivers/xz]$ sudo make install > ===> Installing for xz-4.999.9_1 > ===> Generating temporary packing list > ===> Checking if archivers/xz already installed > ===> An older version of archivers/xz is already installed > (lzmautils-4.32.7) It looks like you might have archivers/lzmautils installed instead of archivers/xz; try deinstalling that instead, and then let multimedia/ffmpeg install the one it wants. If "make deinstall" doesn't do it, then "pkg_info | grep lzma" or "pkg_info | grep xz" might tell you which one you have installed, and pkg_delete -f can be fed the name of the package you do have... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 22:10:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC18106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:10:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfl@uspvp.org) Received: from 28amen.org (28amen.org [204.3.153.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8948FC1E for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:10:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (118.174.67.189.static.totbb.net [118.174.67.189] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by 28amen.org (8.14.4/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o6QLYKmn076537; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:34:22 GMT Message-ID: <4C4DFF56.5070804@uspvp.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 04:34:14 +0700 From: John Francis Lee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100528 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <4C4DFC8E.80603@robinlea.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: John Francis Lee , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with ffmpeg port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:10:51 -0000 Thanks [jfl@28amen /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg]$ cd ../../archivers/xz/ [jfl@28amen /ports/archivers/xz]$ sudo make deinstall Password: ===> Deinstalling for archivers/xz [jfl@28amen /ports/archivers/xz]$ sudo make install ===> Installing for xz-4.999.9_1 ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if archivers/xz already installed ===> An older version of archivers/xz is already installed (lzmautils-4.32.7) You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of archivers/xz without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" in your environment or the "make install" command line. *** Error code 1 Stop in /ports/archivers/xz. Should I try the FORCE_PKG_REGISTER bit? If so how? Thanks for your help... Or how do I portupgrade/portmanager/etc... Thanks again. On 07/27/2010 04:29 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Hi-- > > On Jul 26, 2010, at 2:22 PM, John Francis Lee wrote: >> ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/xz in /usr/ports/archivers/xz >> ===> Installing for xz-4.999.9_1 >> ===> Generating temporary packing list >> ===> Checking if archivers/xz already installed >> ===> An older version of archivers/xz is already installed >> (lzmautils-4.32.7) >> You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again >> by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. >> If you really wish to overwrite the old port of archivers/xz >> without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" >> in your environment or the "make install" command line. >> *** Error code 1 > > This is the relevant bit. You need to upgrade archivers/xz first by following the suggestions, or else use a tool like portupgrade/portmanager/etc... > > Regards, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 22:19:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2258E106566C for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:19:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0472B8FC12 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:19:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id meNG1e0050x6nqcAAmKoFL; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:19:48 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.9] ([76.113.183.74]) by omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mmKl1e0051cjQTw8YmKmTy; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:19:48 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <4C4DFF56.5070804@uspvp.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:19:44 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6B8ADD89-06B0-44F7-80E7-1835637025A5@cwis.biz> References: <4C4DFC8E.80603@robinlea.com> <4C4DFF56.5070804@uspvp.org> To: John Francis Lee X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: John Francis Lee , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with ffmpeg port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:19:49 -0000 do this: #make install -DFORCE_PKG_REGISTER on that particular port, in this case /archivers/xz. On Jul 26, 2010, at 4:34 PM, John Francis Lee wrote: > Thanks >=20 > [jfl@28amen /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg]$ cd ../../archivers/xz/ > [jfl@28amen /ports/archivers/xz]$ sudo make deinstall > Password: > =3D=3D=3D> Deinstalling for archivers/xz > [jfl@28amen /ports/archivers/xz]$ sudo make install > =3D=3D=3D> Installing for xz-4.999.9_1 > =3D=3D=3D> Generating temporary packing list > =3D=3D=3D> Checking if archivers/xz already installed > =3D=3D=3D> An older version of archivers/xz is already installed > (lzmautils-4.32.7) > You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again > by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. > If you really wish to overwrite the old port of archivers/xz > without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" > in your environment or the "make install" command line. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /ports/archivers/xz. >=20 >=20 > Should I try the FORCE_PKG_REGISTER bit? If so how? >=20 > Thanks for your help... >=20 > Or how do I portupgrade/portmanager/etc... >=20 > Thanks again. >=20 > On 07/27/2010 04:29 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote: >> Hi-- >>=20 >> On Jul 26, 2010, at 2:22 PM, John Francis Lee wrote: >>> =3D=3D=3D> Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/xz in = /usr/ports/archivers/xz >>> =3D=3D=3D> Installing for xz-4.999.9_1 >>> =3D=3D=3D> Generating temporary packing list >>> =3D=3D=3D> Checking if archivers/xz already installed >>> =3D=3D=3D> An older version of archivers/xz is already installed >>> (lzmautils-4.32.7) >>> You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again >>> by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. >>> If you really wish to overwrite the old port of archivers/xz >>> without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" >>> in your environment or the "make install" command line. >>> *** Error code 1 >>=20 >> This is the relevant bit. You need to upgrade archivers/xz first by = following the suggestions, or else use a tool like = portupgrade/portmanager/etc... >>=20 >> Regards, >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 22:46:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56AB1065673 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B738FC12 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-179-206.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.179.206]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98201E949; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:46:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o6QMkJNT002397; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:46:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:46:19 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "David Brodbeck" Message-Id: <20100727004619.b3abecf9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <5fe257a732fe215609f88432ae3051d4.squirrel@www.gull.us> References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <5fe257a732fe215609f88432ae3051d4.squirrel@www.gull.us> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:46:22 -0000 On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:06:17 -0700, "David Brodbeck" wrote: > These people > have been taught from a young age that logic is evil and will lead them > down the road to hell, so logical arguments are lost on them. Reminds me to the discussion around Russell's teapot... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 22:53:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FFB1065672 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:53:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=8162412f7=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-002.utdallas.edu (ip-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D8C8FC0C for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:53:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: None X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AroFAG6uTUyBbgogUmdsb2JhbACTG4xTASRBwn2FNgSECA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,264,1278306000"; d="scan'208";a="34344120" Received: from zxtm01.utdallas.edu (HELO utd65257.utdallas.edu) ([129.110.10.32]) by ip-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 26 Jul 2010 17:53:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:53:30 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5fe257a732fe215609f88432ae3051d4.squirrel@www.gull.us> References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <5fe257a732fe215609f88432ae3051d4.squirrel@www.gull.us> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:53:31 -0000 --On Monday, July 26, 2010 14:06:17 -0700 David Brodbeck wrote: > On Mon, July 26, 2010 11:24 am, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> When this is the way one answers a simple question, I tend to believe >> there's no genuine interest in dialog. > > Well, I hate to break it to you, but people who are trying to make a > religious point aren't interested in dialog, anyway. In fact, it's pretty > well impossible to have a dialog with them that gets anywhere. You can't > have a sensible debate when the other person's fallback response is always > "it's god's will, so it's beyond our understanding and we can't question > it, and you're an evil person for not agreeing with me." These people > have been taught from a young age that logic is evil and will lead them > down the road to hell, so logical arguments are lost on them. > The assumptions and bias in that statement are so broad as to defy description. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 22:59:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB3D1065675 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147C68FC1B for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:59:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21217 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2010 22:59:24 -0000 Received: from dsl081-163-112.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO ringbill.gull.us) ([64.81.163.112]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 26 Jul 2010 22:59:24 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=www.gull.us) by ringbill.gull.us with esmtp (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OdWdn-000I5o-Lw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:59:23 -0700 Received: from d-69-91-158-215.dhcp4.washington.edu ([69.91.158.215]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user gull) by www.gull.us with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:59:23 -0700 Message-ID: <305ebb1a984a51ba20974e74e41dbeea.squirrel@www.gull.us> In-Reply-To: References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <5fe257a732fe215609f88432ae3051d4.squirrel@www.gull.us> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:59:23 -0700 From: "David Brodbeck" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:59:25 -0000 On Mon, July 26, 2010 3:53 pm, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Monday, July 26, 2010 14:06:17 -0700 David Brodbeck > wrote: > >> On Mon, July 26, 2010 11:24 am, Paul Schmehl wrote: >>> When this is the way one answers a simple question, I tend to believe >>> there's no genuine interest in dialog. >> >> Well, I hate to break it to you, but people who are trying to make a >> religious point aren't interested in dialog, anyway. In fact, it's >> pretty >> well impossible to have a dialog with them that gets anywhere. You >> can't >> have a sensible debate when the other person's fallback response is >> always >> "it's god's will, so it's beyond our understanding and we can't question >> it, and you're an evil person for not agreeing with me." These people >> have been taught from a young age that logic is evil and will lead them >> down the road to hell, so logical arguments are lost on them. >> > > The assumptions and bias in that statement are so broad as to defy > description. Well, all I can say is I was a regular church-goer for 20 years, and went to religious school for six of those, so I come by my position honestly. I guess this is pretty thoroughly OT at this point, though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 23:05:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E066C1065676 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EB48FC16 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:05:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-179-206.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.179.206]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4A71E70E; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 01:05:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o6QN5PJM002462; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 01:05:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 01:05:25 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Andrew Gould Message-Id: <20100727010525.56d533b5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4C4DC4FA.6070400@antonioshome.net> <20100726173318.GC25072@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:05:28 -0000 On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:00:46 -0500, Andrew Gould wrote: > Compiling OpenOffice is not a practical option for many of us due to > hardware restraints. > > I'm glad to see that there's a compiled binary somewhere! Additionally, there's also the problem of the various configurational items for the OpenOffice building process: if to use CUPS or not, if to include Gnome-VFS support, KDE support, Mozilla support, and the localized language (which does not even include dictionaries for that language)... The times where "pkg_add -r de-openoffice.org" would give you, for example, an OpenOffice in german language (WITH dictionaries!) within a few minutes are over. :-( -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 23:07:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39D9106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:07:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfl@robinlea.com) Received: from 28amen.org (28amen.org [204.3.153.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98E38FC0A for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:07:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.33] ([180.180.54.252]) (authenticated bits=0) by 28amen.org (8.14.4/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o6QN7I5j081897; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:07:19 GMT Message-ID: <4C4E1520.303@robinlea.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 06:07:12 +0700 From: John Francis Lee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100528 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ryan Coleman References: <4C4DFC8E.80603@robinlea.com> <4C4DFF56.5070804@uspvp.org> <6B8ADD89-06B0-44F7-80E7-1835637025A5@cwis.biz> In-Reply-To: <6B8ADD89-06B0-44F7-80E7-1835637025A5@cwis.biz> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, John Francis Lee Subject: Re: problem with ffmpeg port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:07:24 -0000 Thanks... I did that and ffmpeg did install! But... [jfl@28amen ~/www/robinlea.com]$ ffmpeg -i introduction.wav introduction.mp3 FFmpeg version 0.6, Copyright (c) 2000-2010 the FFmpeg developers built on Jul 26 2010 22:42:00 with gcc 3.4.6 [FreeBSD] 20060305 configuration: --prefix=/usr/local --mandir=/usr/local/man --enable-shared --enable-gpl --enable-postproc --enable-avfilter --enable-avfilter-lavf --enable-pthreads --enable-x11grab --enable-memalign-hack --cc=cc --extra-cflags=-I/usr/local/include/vorbis -I/usr/local/include --extra-ldflags=-L/usr/local/lib --extra-libs=-pthread --disable-debug --disable-sse --disable-mmx --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-version3 --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-version3 --enable-libdirac --enable-libfaac --enable-nonfree --enable-libfaad --enable-libfaadbin --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libspeex --enable-libtheora --enable-libvorbis --enable-libx264 --enable-libxvid libavutil 50.15. 1 / 50.15. 1 libavcodec 52.72. 2 / 52.72. 2 libavformat 52.64. 2 / 52.64. 2 libavdevice 52. 2. 0 / 52. 2. 0 libavfilter 1.19. 0 / 1.19. 0 libswscale 0.11. 0 / 0.11. 0 libpostproc 51. 2. 0 / 51. 2. 0 Bus error: 10 (core dumped) I had had a look at the manpage for portupgrade and saw a reference to pkgdb -F So I ran that I and noticed a duplicated origin for archivers/xz : Duplicated origin: archivers/xz - lzmautils-4.32.7 xz-4.999.9_1 and so unregistered lzmautils-4.32.7 then cd /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg sudo make deinstall sudo make install but ffmpeg still dumps core. Any further suggestions? This is what pkgdb -F shows now [jfl@28amen ~/www/robinlea.com]$ sudo pkgdb -F Password: ---> Checking the package registry database Stale origin: 'misc/ldconfig_compat': perhaps moved or obsoleted. -> The port 'misc/ldconfig_compat' was removed on 2010-05-14 because: "Supported releases don't need the port anymore" -> Hint: ldconfig_compat-1.0_8 is required by the following package(s): p5-DBD-mysql50-3.0006 mysql-scripts-5.0.24 mysql-server-5.0.24 squid-2.6.12 mysql-client-5.0.24 -> Hint: checking for overwritten files... -> No files installed by ldconfig_compat-1.0_8 have been overwritten by other packages. Deinstall ldconfig_compat-1.0_8 ? [no] Duplicated origin: textproc/p5-XML-LibXML - p5-XML-LibXML-1.69,1 p5-XML-LibXML-Common-0.13 Unregister any of them? [no] Duplicated origin: lang/python25 - python25-2.5.2_2 python25-2.5.4_1 Unregister any of them? [no] Thanks again for your help. On 07/27/2010 05:19 AM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > do this: > > #make install -DFORCE_PKG_REGISTER > > > on that particular port, in this case /archivers/xz. > > > On Jul 26, 2010, at 4:34 PM, John Francis Lee wrote: > >> Thanks >> >> [jfl@28amen /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg]$ cd ../../archivers/xz/ >> [jfl@28amen /ports/archivers/xz]$ sudo make deinstall >> Password: >> ===> Deinstalling for archivers/xz >> [jfl@28amen /ports/archivers/xz]$ sudo make install >> ===> Installing for xz-4.999.9_1 >> ===> Generating temporary packing list >> ===> Checking if archivers/xz already installed >> ===> An older version of archivers/xz is already installed >> (lzmautils-4.32.7) >> You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again >> by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. >> If you really wish to overwrite the old port of archivers/xz >> without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" >> in your environment or the "make install" command line. >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /ports/archivers/xz. >> >> >> Should I try the FORCE_PKG_REGISTER bit? If so how? >> >> Thanks for your help... >> >> Or how do I portupgrade/portmanager/etc... >> >> Thanks again. >> >> On 07/27/2010 04:29 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote: >>> Hi-- >>> >>> On Jul 26, 2010, at 2:22 PM, John Francis Lee wrote: >>>> ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/xz in /usr/ports/archivers/xz >>>> ===> Installing for xz-4.999.9_1 >>>> ===> Generating temporary packing list >>>> ===> Checking if archivers/xz already installed >>>> ===> An older version of archivers/xz is already installed >>>> (lzmautils-4.32.7) >>>> You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again >>>> by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. >>>> If you really wish to overwrite the old port of archivers/xz >>>> without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" >>>> in your environment or the "make install" command line. >>>> *** Error code 1 >>> >>> This is the relevant bit. You need to upgrade archivers/xz first by following the suggestions, or else use a tool like portupgrade/portmanager/etc... >>> >>> Regards, >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- "This message may have been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA and/or the present government of Thailand without notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or recipient." John Francis Lee 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 23:32:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D5F106566C for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:32:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from smtp194.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp194.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA3D8FC1D for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:32:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay9.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay9.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5269A1E621E; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:32:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay9.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fsb-AT-thefsb.org) with ESMTPSA id 14F821E620C; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:32:01 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.10.0.080409 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:31:59 -0400 From: Tom Worster To: Pegasus Mc Cleaft , Message-ID: Thread-Topic: BSD logo Thread-Index: AcstGr38YLvRB3BZc0Ct1uFBnb6g0w== In-Reply-To: <201007261635.13806.ken@mthelicon.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: Chad Perrin Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:32:02 -0000 On 7/26/10 12:35 PM, "Pegasus Mc Cleaft" wrote: >>> By the way . . . while I think a BelssedBSD fork is a ridiculous idea, >>> the name "BlessedBSD" is *brilliant*. Pronouncing it aloud makes the >>> high-quality pun buried in the name more obvious, for those who didn't >>> quite catch it on the first read-through. >> >> i agree. lovely name. the pagan connection is delectable. >> http://is.gd/dJRn3 >> > After the install, does it say SoMoteItBSD? and gives you a distinctive handshake. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 23:47:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923281065670 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:47:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D568FC13 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:47:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so3175301wyj.13 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:47:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ttVsbS6VG5A1nfJKarE9zw79q9U/qwq8X0vtZ+3MSVE=; b=tA3PEBMF7zc+XAwqxFRlsAZVST9X5oIMDRe90/29bKjuZac8h0hoVDiiVR+utNljJN KwULMBmL4JscMUGKCrRg/h3Y1z+A79UlQoLb6ZYzVR7VsCeNC54d40og6bo339H0U636 jZUy5oLVh0TsA8boPbyCJTJ2cZ4aHX6Wb0XJU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=IJEKSknto+yWPbniU/cuV3LHuyUwR003nIGHFA8N37b7QGxVSMw4WZ0grIk8CYtckX xXcZRc7ihulvDmnAsAFaMRZV+ur2gnmbtAziKeVS0LSVrFRbokiJgaltf9n1LrXf24XU xBRUD/15g7PavEJ7btXJ2YEXv5fwzX+dy/hlE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.10.77 with SMTP id 55mr8151729weu.17.1280186541741; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.70.203 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:22:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100727004619.b3abecf9.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <5fe257a732fe215609f88432ae3051d4.squirrel@www.gull.us> <20100727004619.b3abecf9.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:22:21 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:47:03 -0000 On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:06:17 -0700, "David Brodbeck" wrote: >> These people >> have been taught from a young age that logic is evil and will lead them >> down the road to hell, so logical arguments are lost on them. > > Reminds me to the discussion around Russell's teapot... > No . . . not you . . . Polytropon! The end of the world must be coming (Revelations-1.0). > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 23:47:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6BB1065675 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:47:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7827F8FC13 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:47:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk32 with SMTP id 32so2798055qyk.13 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:47:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.89.80 with SMTP id d16mr1583820qam.224.1280188066658; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.229.53.207 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:47:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <305ebb1a984a51ba20974e74e41dbeea.squirrel@www.gull.us> References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <5fe257a732fe215609f88432ae3051d4.squirrel@www.gull.us> <305ebb1a984a51ba20974e74e41dbeea.squirrel@www.gull.us> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:47:46 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: MRdcQz5irpKNz8bYYJvzUO8I_S0 Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: David Brodbeck Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:47:49 -0000 On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:59 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: > On Mon, July 26, 2010 3:53 pm, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> --On Monday, July 26, 2010 14:06:17 -0700 David Brodbeck >> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, July 26, 2010 11:24 am, Paul Schmehl wrote: >>>> When this is the way one answers a simple question, I tend to believe >>>> there's no genuine interest in dialog. >>> >>> Well, I hate to break it to you, but people who are trying to make a >>> religious point aren't interested in dialog, anyway. =A0In fact, it's >>> pretty >>> well impossible to have a dialog with them that gets anywhere. =A0You >>> can't >>> have a sensible debate when the other person's fallback response is >>> always >>> "it's god's will, so it's beyond our understanding and we can't questio= n >>> it, and you're an evil person for not agreeing with me." =A0These peopl= e >>> have been taught from a young age that logic is evil and will lead them >>> down the road to hell, so logical arguments are lost on them. >>> >> >> The assumptions and bias in that statement are so broad as to defy >> description. > > Well, all I can say is I was a regular church-goer for 20 years, and went > to religious school for six of those, so I come by my position honestly. > > I guess this is pretty thoroughly OT at this point, though. Seems so, but it's a very interesting topic.I kindly invite all interested in having this discussion here: http://ekowiki.org/index.php/Religion This is a humble project I started a while back when I decided to stop talking and thinking and actually try to do something... > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 23:48:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D312106567C for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:48:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE1F8FC21 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:48:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe42 with SMTP id 42so364522yxe.13 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:48:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.67.4 with SMTP id p4mr2477392yba.28.1280188100179; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.229.53.207 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:48:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <5fe257a732fe215609f88432ae3051d4.squirrel@www.gull.us> <305ebb1a984a51ba20974e74e41dbeea.squirrel@www.gull.us> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:48:19 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: gh2WBpjzj6xdG5Gt0z80fgBEeeo Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: David Brodbeck Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:48:23 -0000 On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:59 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: >> On Mon, July 26, 2010 3:53 pm, Paul Schmehl wrote: >>> --On Monday, July 26, 2010 14:06:17 -0700 David Brodbeck >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, July 26, 2010 11:24 am, Paul Schmehl wrote: >>>>> When this is the way one answers a simple question, I tend to believe >>>>> there's no genuine interest in dialog. >>>> >>>> Well, I hate to break it to you, but people who are trying to make a >>>> religious point aren't interested in dialog, anyway. =A0In fact, it's >>>> pretty >>>> well impossible to have a dialog with them that gets anywhere. =A0You >>>> can't >>>> have a sensible debate when the other person's fallback response is >>>> always >>>> "it's god's will, so it's beyond our understanding and we can't questi= on >>>> it, and you're an evil person for not agreeing with me." =A0These peop= le >>>> have been taught from a young age that logic is evil and will lead the= m >>>> down the road to hell, so logical arguments are lost on them. >>>> >>> >>> The assumptions and bias in that statement are so broad as to defy >>> description. >> >> Well, all I can say is I was a regular church-goer for 20 years, and wen= t >> to religious school for six of those, so I come by my position honestly. >> >> I guess this is pretty thoroughly OT at this point, though. > > > Seems so, but it's a very interesting topic.I kindly invite all > interested in having this discussion here: > http://ekowiki.org/index.php/Religion > This is a humble project I started a while back when I decided to stop > talking and thinking and actually try to do something... > Oh, and BTW it runs on FBSD, of course ;-) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 00:01:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBA11065674 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:01:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0AB38FC13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:01:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-179-206.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.179.206]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C071EBD3; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:01:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o6R01Hh3004200; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:01:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:01:17 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Neal Hogan Message-Id: <20100727020117.a1a5538a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <5fe257a732fe215609f88432ae3051d4.squirrel@www.gull.us> <20100727004619.b3abecf9.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:01:21 -0000 On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:22:21 -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: > No . . . not you . . . Polytropon! The end of the world must be coming > (Revelations-1.0). Do *NOT* tempt me. Okay, you did. And this is what will happen: It turns this thread into a bottomless pit of nonsense, but well, you asked for it. :-) ,ggg, nd spotteth twice they the system before dP""8I the fifth version, and so, the Programmers dP 88 went Forth to RAM Gilead in Kernel Bilgemath, dP 88 by Shell Ethra Joygalion, to the house of ,8' 88 Gash-Bernars-Lee-Bazola, he who brought the d88888888 better list to Kerneygham and the tank pool __ ,8" 88 to the house of Ritchomon, and there slew dP" ,8P Y8 they the list messages, yea, and placed they Yb,_,dP `8b, the bits in little bit buckets. Here endeth "Y8P" `Y8 the lesson. (Pal 8:256) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 00:14:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5111065677 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:14:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AAFC8FC1B for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:14:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18028 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jul 2010 00:14:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 2010 00:14:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=g3eXlYMJRC3OSvL6MsztmuqO1xQU6mjND2eURTxSsKMk72BbgxQ67UEwQYVhOPy1KLmUOMmsn2G+Okqpsj0y9N++nw2zZAa+qKGOeANiJ3Hy68f7a2pSKhkmYfqZ9h4E; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OdXoO-0006tV-F4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:14:25 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:12:29 -0600 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:12:29 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100727001229.GA91286@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <8B2A21F8-53F0-4392-AFB7-0ACD9A250B57@balholm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DocE+STaALJfprDB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8B2A21F8-53F0-4392-AFB7-0ACD9A250B57@balholm.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:14:26 -0000 --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 08:39:12AM -0700, Andy Balholm wrote: >=20 > It's also possible that, after reading the responses to his inquiry, > the original poster decided that his question had been adequately > answered, his concerns were justified, and he should use a different > operating system. >=20 > although the UNIX term "daemon" is not satanic in origin, some aspects > of Beastie's appearance are obviously derived from traditional > depictions of the Devil.=20 Really? Are you sure they weren't derived from something else -- perhaps a source in common for the "traditional" depictions of the devil? There may be a common source for both, rather than one being the source of the other. Correlation does not imply causation. Did you ask the original Beastie artist for confirmation that he was consciously emulating images of the Christian devil, or did you just jump to a conclusion like the OP? --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxOJG0ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUI+ACdE0L+sLAyCtNkpfSjZ5FcYK9H QJ0An12Evbe2cgBkwiH5BQGQIv0syBv5 =rSJj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DocE+STaALJfprDB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 00:21:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1104A1065670 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:21:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ges+lists@wingfoot.org) Received: from wingfoot.org (caduceus.wingfoot.org [66.80.251.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5418FC19 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from caduceus.wingfoot.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A7F39E0CA; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:21:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at wingfoot.org Received: from wingfoot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by caduceus.wingfoot.org (wingfoot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10042) with ESMTP id pfwbrw3Lciky; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:21:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Sandal.local (ool-4353640b.dyn.optonline.net [67.83.100.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A19EC39E0BE; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:21:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C4E2680.8040305@wingfoot.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:21:20 -0400 From: Glenn Sieb User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <5fe257a732fe215609f88432ae3051d4.squirrel@www.gull.us> <20100727004619.b3abecf9.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100727020117.a1a5538a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100727020117.a1a5538a.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:21:29 -0000 On 7/26/10 8:01 PM, Polytropon wrote: > ,ggg, nd spotteth twice they the system before > dP""8I the fifth version, and so, the Programmers > dP 88 went Forth to RAM Gilead in Kernel Bilgemath, > dP 88 by Shell Ethra Joygalion, to the house of > ,8' 88 Gash-Bernars-Lee-Bazola, he who brought the > d88888888 better list to Kerneygham and the tank pool > __ ,8" 88 to the house of Ritchomon, and there slew > dP" ,8P Y8 they the list messages, yea, and placed they > Yb,_,dP `8b, the bits in little bit buckets. Here endeth > "Y8P" `Y8 the lesson. (Pal 8:256) *clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap* Well done, sir. :) Best, --Glenn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 00:22:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DAB1065672 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC41E8FC2C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28868 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jul 2010 00:22:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 2010 00:22:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=GGmAQA2dC0FWyDPgdDPCNdME4vYP8wKnzhaGxypE59JF/p74qu9QGjoRaomMmOnn6ogrLKO263i9f+MXz/s0hQesRhuA2v+bO5LbPRjEdyGZzc8oaW0fuNWBlpIePgJ0; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OdXwR-00079c-32 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:22:44 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:20:48 -0600 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:20:48 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20100727002048.GB91286@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5I6of5zJg18YgZEa" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:22:45 -0000 --5I6of5zJg18YgZEa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 01:24:21PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Saturday, July 24, 2010 00:24:46 -0600 Chad Perrin=20 > wrote: > > > >When this is the way someone starts a "discussion" about wanting to use a > >new OS, I tend to believe there is no genuine interest in using the OS in > >question. >=20 > When this is the way one answers a simple question, I tend to believe=20 > there's no genuine interest in dialog. I am therefore left to wonder who= =20 > really is the intolerant one. One cannot claim to be tolerant while=20 > demonstrating intolerance any more than one can claim to be educated=20 > without every having read a book. How perspicacious of you. I'll quote myself basically saying exactly that -- that I am not particularly interested in "dialog" with someone who, I'm sure, has already made up his or her mind: In any case, I didn't claim to be "tolerant". In fact, I very specifically said I was sure someone would accuse me of intolerance, and went on to explain that I am guilty of intolerance of those who are intolerant themselves. Why are you just repeating what I have said, but in the tone of an accusation? How intolerant are *you* today? Not all education comes from books, by the way (though I personally have read many, many books, and quite enjoy the activity of reading). > > > > While I normally prefer to take an inclusive approach to dealing with > > people who run into obstacles in their approach to thinking about > > OSes, there are cases where I simply feel the urge to throw my hands > > in the air and giving up on someone. Such cases are those where it > > seems likely that some kind of closed-minded idolatry (which is > > exactly what this is: taking a cartoony mascot as some kind of > > Manifest Presence of a supernatural, superhuman Force, Principle, or > > Being) is going on. Either you will get over it, or you will not, > > and it is only a very faint hope that pointing out the ludicrousness > > of your objection that compels me to respond at all. Is that clear enough for you? >=20 > It's amazing to me the ridicule heaped upon the man for asking a question= .=20 > Would it have been too difficult to simply answer the question, as the=20 > first response did? No, we have to attack the man for having beliefs tha= t=20 > are different from our own. Because we're so enlightened? Or because we= =20 > are even more ignorant than we suppose he is? I *did* answer the question before heaping ridicule on someone who, as I stated, I believe had already made up his or her mind, and had no genuine interest in dialog in the first place. My "attack", by the way, had *zero* to do with anyone's beliefs being different from my own -- as you might have noticed if you bothered to read and understand what I said. Skimming it for excuses to accuse me of religious intolerance doesn't work as well as you might think. You're a self-righteous git, and probably personally offended by the appearance of an attack on Christianity (which is never what was intended, nor even what happened, at least in the case of the specific email to which you replied). Try stepping back, reading more closely, and responding to what was *actually* said. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --5I6of5zJg18YgZEa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxOJmAACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUWuQCgy7Y3pjVQ8FAbJlgn7fqiQM4S 1PEAn3NnbNBHChH4NpNkix7Y4rSpRgSe =gVSE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5I6of5zJg18YgZEa-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 00:24:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A389C106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:24:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F7B28FC17 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:24:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5164 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jul 2010 00:24:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 2010 00:24:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=PXaUA5EcynqCVE0dP2g40XbzN0iz7We403ta/fRTmXTbzBYi3K3id5tedwoJePn/4gCdapgrOAsxNMRldFgS1aZj9v1pzo8dufJx4P86gGfPDRD0uoEs60q2I/wMMQSj; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OdXxz-0000bK-H8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:24:20 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:22:24 -0600 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:22:24 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100727002224.GC91286@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <5fe257a732fe215609f88432ae3051d4.squirrel@www.gull.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RIYY1s2vRbPFwWeW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:24:21 -0000 --RIYY1s2vRbPFwWeW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 05:53:30PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Monday, July 26, 2010 14:06:17 -0700 David Brodbeck = =20 > wrote: >=20 > >On Mon, July 26, 2010 11:24 am, Paul Schmehl wrote: > >>When this is the way one answers a simple question, I tend to believe > >>there's no genuine interest in dialog. > > > >Well, I hate to break it to you, but people who are trying to make a > >religious point aren't interested in dialog, anyway. In fact, it's pret= ty > >well impossible to have a dialog with them that gets anywhere. You can't > >have a sensible debate when the other person's fallback response is alwa= ys > >"it's god's will, so it's beyond our understanding and we can't question > >it, and you're an evil person for not agreeing with me." These people > >have been taught from a young age that logic is evil and will lead them > >down the road to hell, so logical arguments are lost on them. > > >=20 > The assumptions and bias in that statement are so broad as to defy=20 > description. There appeared to be a fair bit of assumption and bias in your response to me, as well. Pot, kettle, et cetera. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --RIYY1s2vRbPFwWeW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxOJsAACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVUGwCfTi3vxlzBsUzFsTib+iToMsTV 1z8AoJ2W3ZIE0T0LeiyRw+B85UykxqUp =d89F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RIYY1s2vRbPFwWeW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 00:28:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083141065672 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:28:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2558FC0A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:28:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so3203127wyj.13 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:28:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=24FsBGqbR7NQHay4JPzQ7S5uRls6KUHFj5x+Nno990k=; b=jlX6JSyjZUyhCirE38GmBpnaJHods82Pvov4zaIEyaikTBWaAIOx+t+SwIZWwCq2AW fQPdnawUDdYYWDQ89y4IzTZxtM0TKGU5PDaBZ9AoAyloF0fVb62zi7agiqMy44/Xggs4 oVDkpcTa+KCtldtG9F87FfNCCl8bgWOSk7R8o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=fHlBzGUUcl4b+lY7pnaZ5iA3dKkKlpiA6IWLGLCIWDeb8Cubl4bK0cMRhZerDgskwQ j1f3ByM5LaXSYtYoIw3ogExMPxHOTR6Nxj/Wy44bh3q1dBv5mw0FyFShAhZL2h+zzV38 wx3DZ9YIOlVsgKBnx2VewdZBtUtAlK0CZ+xqo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.232.90 with SMTP id m68mr8179094weq.10.1280190506384; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.168.207 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:28:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C4E2680.8040305@wingfoot.org> References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <5fe257a732fe215609f88432ae3051d4.squirrel@www.gull.us> <20100727004619.b3abecf9.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100727020117.a1a5538a.freebsd@edvax.de> <4C4E2680.8040305@wingfoot.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:28:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Glenn Sieb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:28:28 -0000 On 7/26/10, Glenn Sieb wrote: > On 7/26/10 8:01 PM, Polytropon wrote: >> ,ggg, nd spotteth twice they the system before >> dP""8I the fifth version, and so, the Programmers >> dP 88 went Forth to RAM Gilead in Kernel Bilgemath, >> dP 88 by Shell Ethra Joygalion, to the house of >> ,8' 88 Gash-Bernars-Lee-Bazola, he who brought the >> d88888888 better list to Kerneygham and the tank pool >> __ ,8" 88 to the house of Ritchomon, and there slew >> dP" ,8P Y8 they the list messages, yea, and placed they >> Yb,_,dP `8b, the bits in little bit buckets. Here endeth >> "Y8P" `Y8 the lesson. (Pal 8:256) > > *clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap* > > Well done, sir. :) > > Best, > --Glenn > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Good one, but how about creation? http://www.pi.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/creation.html Cheers! Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 00:57:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547551065674 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rl001@pacbell.net) Received: from web81101.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81101.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 081288FC0A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:57:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 90181 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Jul 2010 00:57:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pacbell.net; s=s1024; t=1280192248; bh=d07+Vg4Pc8XCICiA+9hEEzrI5zokJ1tp00rxiPCjQ+Y=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mKbsA+ENMqKVo8cB4C8F3wBGOzTT4nAv5+eX0GP2DZt4Sm35a0u6SdoapOnUuYib3AcACqQEeXZJQ6DhAFMp0c2AGk7mg0UhH0nJhkGzA/fj7xNxrGb8ci416bDLr2y3Hvmh7u1kYA3804kORbieTUCJucVPWGjCoRA9xZ0veXQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=D166a3wXlwDWTGMbYY0tH7ls7B4oZpffwHkdTi0Q31hJs8CKR1gZFM5pq3EilHeta9vOQ3k3nr9iUQG4FEScrHXk/YHRvd7gICz8jtkHptErfi5nyArKoeN457hoZTMa9hZOyWrNnC6WZ2HH9AupDjAcHDu1DAzpGmakDafQMmM=; Message-ID: <415755.90090.qm@web81101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: T4iEzhMVM1nHmoMj.81W.bCwSclwv1p907yvMmrmWR1i5P1 fpW2sjaAHreYEkVpgXVCZPGQhz3sDKyq80ujAE883k6N6_jFf9P.2DUqm8dw F3L45sB8cDu4RRw2z71wkrEGDXte943frGdkJJxBF9tw.BaPmphJQuuQVeBr Rc6BTx49Aeelfc3E09pl9eujWyDzdDZmCAXLbrZmX05wA.EEqvO9N8pD9o.s _46nk61BGXw_NuStcr.AyoBMuXimoFhL1SKAbsq.EksHgcodEPUt287xlE5F 62Sbe8LI2cTh9eakvWHThvnxZ1nPENBUTkqqMykKvlKg- Received: from [71.139.201.38] by web81101.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:57:28 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/420.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 References: <4C4DDA28.4070205@identry.com> <980022A0-7623-40A5-BCDE-4909A721933D@mac.com> <4C4DF067.7000801@identry.com> <29133_1280176880_4C4DF2F0_29133_203_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B4349968A910AE@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:57:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich To: Gary Gatten In-Reply-To: <29133_1280176880_4C4DF2F0_29133_203_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B4349968A910AE@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: 1 file system, 2 drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:57:29 -0000 ________________________________ From: Gary Gatten Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 1:41:19 PM Subject: RE: 1 file system, 2 drives? >From my experience (YMMV), most RAID controllers will NOT redistribute the >existing data/files onto the newly added drives. So, if you have a (3) drive >RAID5 your file exists on all three drives, as does the parity data. If you add >(2) drives, your original files will not be on the new drives. New files WILL >use all (5) drives. IMHO it's best to backup the data (twice), create a new >volume on the new RAID, and restore the data. That said, maybe better/newer >RAID controllers will redistribute / balance existing data across all drives in >the array - I don't know for sure. Either way, backup your data - twice! And >make sure it can be restored! Just because the backup app SAYS it's OK, it's >NOT OK until it can be successfully restored! Also, if you go from (7) drives to (3), your I/O may suffer. Newer faster drives MAY make up the difference, or make up enough of it that it won't impact your client. Just be aware this is a potential issue. Generally speaking more spindles = more I/O's / sec. G >>Generally speaking more spindles = more I/O's / sec. and more chance for failure. After a certain point adding more drives to a RAID0 stripe doesn't buy you anything because the first one is ready for the next command before you get very far down the line. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of John Almberg Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:31 PM To: Chuck Swiger Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 1 file system, 2 drives? > If you have hardware controller with RAID capabilities, using native RAID is >better, otherwise look towards gvinum or maybe ccd; see also: > I've just been reading up on RAID in my Absolute FreeBSD book, and it occurs to me that my client has a SCSI RAID drive chassis that he is using stupidly... It's a 14 bay drive, and he's currently got seven 32G drives stuck in it, configured with RAID-0. This is the original 200G drive I was talking about. It's a few years old. Over the next few years, this guy is going to need lots of storage for his videos. After a bit of reading, I'm wondering if the best idea might be to toss out those 32G drives and replace them with 3 big (say, 300G) drives configured with RAID-5. It sounds to me like a RAID-5 array can be expanded by adding new drives. QUESTION: is expansion normally a matter of just plugging in a new drive? Is the new drive automatically grafted onto the old drives? Or do you have to go through a process like, backing up the data, plugging in the new drive, reformatting the expanded array of drives, and restoring the data. I don't know the brand/model of the RAID drive chassis, but the client thinks it can be switched to use RAID 5. I'm waiting for the technical details, but assuming it can handle RAID-5 for now. Thanks: John _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 01:18:22 -0000 that's great ! I will use /etc/mergemaster.rc to upgrade my FB 8.0. Mike Clarke-17 wrote: >=20 > On Monday 26 July 2010, zaxis wrote: >=20 >> I want to upgrade my freebsd 8.0 to 8.1. I have read all the steps >> about upgrading freebsd. I feel mergemaster is difficult to use e.g. >> which parameters should i use ? (you may wish to use -U or -ai or >> -Fi) >=20 > I have the following in /etc/mergemaster.rc instead of having to=20 > remember the command line options each time: >=20 > # Install the new file if it differs only by VCS Id (-F) > FREEBSD_ID=3Dyes > # > # Automatically upgrade files that have not been user modified (-U) > AUTO_UPGRADE=3Dyes > # > # Automatically install files not on the system already (-i) > AUTO_INSTALL=3Dyes > # > # Preserve files that you replace > PRESERVE_FILES=3Dyes > # > # Delete stale files in /etc/rc.d without prompting > DELETE_STALE_RC_FILES=3Dyes > # > # Compare /etc/rc.conf[.local] to /etc/defaults/rc.conf (-C) > COMP_CONFS=3Dyes > # > ###################################################### > # The following options have no command line overrides > ###################################################### > # > # Files to always avoid comparing > IGNORE_FILES=3D'/etc/motd /etc/printcap' > # > # Additional options for diff. This will get unset when using -s. > DIFF_OPTIONS=3D'-Bb' # Ignore changes in whitespace >=20 > --=20 > Mike Clarke > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20 ----- e^(=CF=80=E2=8B=85i) + 1 =3D 0 --=20 View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/I-donot-like-using-merg= emaster----tp29262747p29272211.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 01:28:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8548F1065675 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 01:28:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E3D8FC0A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 01:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyh6 with SMTP id 6so656391eyh.13 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:28:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.15.135 with SMTP id k7mr4597336eba.56.1280194099025; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.29.130 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:28:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.28.41] In-Reply-To: <4C4E1520.303@robinlea.com> References: <4C4DFC8E.80603@robinlea.com> <4C4DFF56.5070804@uspvp.org> <6B8ADD89-06B0-44F7-80E7-1835637025A5@cwis.biz> <4C4E1520.303@robinlea.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 03:28:18 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: John Francis Lee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, John Francis Lee Subject: Re: problem with ffmpeg port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 01:28:22 -0000 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:07 AM, John Francis Lee wrote: > Thanks... I did that and ffmpeg did install! > > But... > > [jfl@28amen ~/www/robinlea.com]$ ffmpeg -i introduction.wav introduction.= mp3 > FFmpeg version 0.6, Copyright (c) 2000-2010 the FFmpeg developers > =A0built on Jul 26 2010 22:42:00 with gcc 3.4.6 [FreeBSD] 20060305 > =A0configuration: --prefix=3D/usr/local --mandir=3D/usr/local/man > --enable-shared --enable-gpl --enable-postproc --enable-avfilter > --enable-avfilter-lavf --enable-pthreads --enable-x11grab > --enable-memalign-hack --cc=3Dcc > --extra-cflags=3D-I/usr/local/include/vorbis -I/usr/local/include > --extra-ldflags=3D-L/usr/local/lib --extra-libs=3D-pthread --disable-debu= g > --disable-sse --disable-mmx --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-version3 > --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-version3 --enable-libdirac > --enable-libfaac --enable-nonfree --enable-libfaad --enable-libfaadbin > --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopenjpeg > --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libspeex --enable-libtheora > --enable-libvorbis --enable-libx264 --enable-libxvid > =A0libavutil =A0 =A0 50.15. 1 / 50.15. 1 > =A0libavcodec =A0 =A052.72. 2 / 52.72. 2 > =A0libavformat =A0 52.64. 2 / 52.64. 2 > =A0libavdevice =A0 52. 2. 0 / 52. 2. 0 > =A0libavfilter =A0 =A01.19. 0 / =A01.19. 0 > =A0libswscale =A0 =A0 0.11. 0 / =A00.11. 0 > =A0libpostproc =A0 51. 2. 0 / 51. 2. 0 > Bus error: 10 (core dumped) Hmmm... did you get a ffmpeg.core? If so, what does $ gdb `which ffmpeg` ffmpeg.core followed by 'bt' say? (backtrace) (that's two backquotes around "which ffmeg") You may also have some confusion w.r.t. shared libraries. Have a look at $ ldd `which ffmpeg` If you see one library with two different versions in this list, your ffmpeg will likely dump core because it is linked against incompatible libraries. Of course, it could also be something entirely unrelated and different. > I had had a look at the manpage for portupgrade and saw a reference to > > =A0pkgdb -F > > So I ran that I and noticed a duplicated origin for archivers/xz : > > =A0Duplicated origin: archivers/xz - lzmautils-4.32.7 xz-4.999.9_1 > > and so unregistered lzmautils-4.32.7 > > then > > =A0cd /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg > =A0sudo make deinstall > =A0sudo make install Have you recompiled ffmpeg after removing lzmautils-4.32.7? In the listing above, it looks like you simply reinstalled the already compiled ffmpeg (compiled prior to cleaning up lzmautils that is)? > but ffmpeg still dumps core. > > Any further suggestions? > -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 02:10:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A14106566B for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1643B8FC15 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:10:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emlpfilt2.waddell.com (mailhost2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DB726597C; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:10:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from emlpfilt2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B5355788B3; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:10:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ADVPHTCAS0.wradvisors.com (advphtcas0.wradvisors.com [192.168.203.228]) by emlpfilt2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6409B5788B1; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:10:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPMBXV0.waddell.com ([169.254.1.108]) by ADVPHTCAS0.wradvisors.com ([192.168.203.228]) with mapi; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:10:40 -0500 From: Gary Gatten To: "'rl001@pacbell.net'" Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:10:40 -0500 Thread-Topic: 1 file system, 2 drives? 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b=kUBJ8Fms/9HeXvSS+n/UwlH1MA5g4NNAAsoZ1goVL68GKh38t8D+A+ljG8yAnJXvtN R+xZ4Nz8a0fVQ7mCoQ4hVdtpfcZW3kAZSXYDrG+xTLSddUaH6qtgRlXsMF1Al+Jv4Wcx iBn938JgKi+tttwyGHjQHGWeqm2l5WCVEqXdw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.136.17 with SMTP id p17mr2904189wbt.135.1280197700548; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.70.203 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:28:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100727020117.a1a5538a.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <5fe257a732fe215609f88432ae3051d4.squirrel@www.gull.us> <20100727004619.b3abecf9.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100727020117.a1a5538a.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:28:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:28:22 -0000 On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:22:21 -0500, Neal Hogan wrot= e: >> No . . . not you . . . Polytropon! The end of the world must be coming >> (Revelations-1.0). > > Do *NOT* tempt me. Okay, you did. 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Do you update your apps as soon as a new version is available in the ports ? Or do you follow the "if it works, don't touch it" strategy ? I'm guessing "portupgrade" is your preferred way of doing this hence, do you also choose -P or -PP ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 06:36:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ECAE1065672 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 06:36:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djr@pdconsec.net) Received: from ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA338FC0C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 06:36:15 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAOEYTkyWZcBC/2dsb2JhbACgVsEwhTYEiyI Received: from goliath.pdconsec.net (HELO smtp.pdconsec.net) ([150.101.192.66]) by ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net with SMTP; 27 Jul 2010 16:06:13 +0930 Received: from mail1.pdconsec.net ([192.168.1.41] helo=mail1.pdconsec.net) with IPv4:25 by smtp.pdconsec.net; 27 Jul 2010 16:36:10 +1000 Received: from smtp.pdconsec.net ([192.168.1.32] RDNS failed) by mail1.pdconsec.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:35:12 +1000 Received: from [10.14.6.41] ([150.101.192.69] helo=[10.14.6.41]) with IPv4:10025 by smtp.pdconsec.net; 27 Jul 2010 16:36:09 +1000 Message-ID: <4C4E7E20.3020005@pdconsec.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:35:12 +1000 From: David Rawling User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C4DDA28.4070205@identry.com> <980022A0-7623-40A5-BCDE-4909A721933D@mac.com> <4C4DF067.7000801@identry.com> <4C4DF5F1.4080109@identry.com> In-Reply-To: <4C4DF5F1.4080109@identry.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jul 2010 06:35:12.0383 (UTC) FILETIME=[DD9EC0F0:01CB2D55] Subject: Re: 1 file system, 2 drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 06:36:16 -0000 On 27/07/2010 6:54 AM, John Almberg wrote: > John Almberg wrote: >>> If you have hardware controller with RAID capabilities, using native >>> RAID is better, otherwise look towards gvinum or maybe ccd; see also: >> I've just been reading up on RAID in my Absolute FreeBSD book, and it >> occurs to me that my client has a SCSI RAID drive chassis that he is >> using stupidly... >> >> It's a 14 bay drive, and he's currently got seven 32G drives stuck in >> it, configured with RAID-0. This is the original 200G drive I was >> talking about. It's a few years old. >> >> Over the next few years, this guy is going to need lots of storage >> for his videos. >> >> After a bit of reading, I'm wondering if the best idea might be to >> toss out those 32G drives and replace them with 3 big (say, 300G) >> drives configured with RAID-5. It sounds to me like a RAID-5 array >> can be expanded by adding new drives. >> >> QUESTION: is expansion normally a matter of just plugging in a new >> drive? Is the new drive automatically grafted onto the old drives? Or >> do you have to go through a process like, backing up the data, >> plugging in the new drive, reformatting the expanded array of drives, >> and restoring the data. >> >> I don't know the brand/model of the RAID drive chassis, but the >> client thinks it can be switched to use RAID 5. I'm waiting for the >> technical details, but assuming it can handle RAID-5 for now. > Answering my own question... > > So its a HP 6402 / 128 RAID controller. From a quick skim of the > manual, it looks like the controller has to go through an 'expansion' > process when adding a new drive. This sounds time consuming, but more > or less automatic -- i.e., handled by the controller. > > Sounds like this might be the best way to go. It's been a while since I dealt with HP SCSI RAID, but ISTR that you'd need to install and configure the 3 disks as a RAID 5 set, copy the data from the 7x36GB array to the new array, (using a temporary mount point, generally, and dump | restore) switch the mount points across so that the /videos tree is the new copy, then remove the RAID0 set from the controller. You may or may not find that the RAID controller changes LUN IDs after a cold start too, so LUN 1 (new RAID 5) suddenly becomes LUN 0 on the cold start after the old RAID set is decommissioned and pulled. This is often accompanied by a heart attack on the part of the person restarting the server. After that, though, expansion is a cinch - but it will be quite slow since it needs to read and write the entire content of all disks. I'd therefore go as many spindles as you can - 3 disks, 5 disks and 9 disks are what I recall as being optimal groups for RAID 5. Also consider that you can supplement the RAIDs with the BSD tools previously mentioned. Today is 3 x 300GB. Tomorrow add another 3 x 300 (assuming IOPS is OK) and concatenate them to be a 1.8TB "disk" - 2D+P + 2D+P. Dave. -- David Rawling PD Consulting And Security Mob: +61 412 135 513 Email: djr@pdconsec.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 07:28:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963DC106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279D48FC16 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so447842fxm.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:28:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=J/dM4+nkhVoJsbAaFOL0eN/YZMOhDmDXxPNt9nfoZtc=; b=ToVhp0Nx4as5XBJDSYxSdsre49+cy2oBHnswmTvrVd/Sr0nE6MAhm942v7KsKWaSz6 dlyacCR9G4jkL1JaDmUJI+XbOq3q7lCa1TlzSsE5CXtHhKxBLe9GtuXmT3QwIU3X3M55 6oVz4AfK5MnG08RMWbE8jfny+CdfVDyy37NQE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Vz57x9no/PVRjTKdHBlmkI1hClierzd9Fjf22z1VITlN2c6IvUpYJDU+lcWzv4O0fo CVKERBLRWUi8j0PJ04dQXruABExPPtU7WAO63VIg6OWgnJ78C4JT3TqPCwvzGOHoMSOE meQrDUEGDMM2DdVRgtgvoh9e7QCLWpyGlX4xI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.155.18 with SMTP id g18mr478851hbc.184.1280215683145; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:28:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.160.201 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:28:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <980022A0-7623-40A5-BCDE-4909A721933D@mac.com> References: <4C4DDA28.4070205@identry.com> <980022A0-7623-40A5-BCDE-4909A721933D@mac.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:28:03 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Chuck Swiger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: John Almberg , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 1 file system, 2 drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:28:05 -0000 On 26 July 2010 20:05, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Hi, John-- > > On Jul 26, 2010, at 11:55 AM, John Almberg wrote: > > I know this is probably impossible, but FreeBSD can do so many miraculous > things, that I can't help asking... > > > > Is it possible to use the second drive to 'expand' the /videos file > system? So it would miraculously look like a single 400G drive? > > The canonical way of doing this is to either create a RAID-0 concat or > stripe volume. Using RAID-0 striping is preferred due to performance, but > you'd need to backup, reformat using a RAID-0 stripe, and then restore your > data onto the new volume. In theory, setting up a concat is less intrusive, > but if the data is already mounted and in use, you'll probably still need to > unmount it first. > > If you have hardware controller with RAID capabilities, using native RAID > is better, otherwise look towards gvinum or maybe ccd; see also: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/raid.html > > Regards, > -- > -Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I dont agree that hardware raid is necessarily better. It really depends on what the system is doing. If for example it is purely acting as a filer I would always use software raid. The main reason for this is that you benefit from the faster CPU, and more intelligent raid software (zfs). You are also not tied to a particular hardware platform which makes future upgrades easier. If however the system is doing lots of other things and you dont want the overhead of a software raid solution, it makes sense to offload it to a hardware solution From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 09:10:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7DDD106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726D68FC2C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6R9ALsD062783 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:10:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bulk@1729.net) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o6R9AKtK062782 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:10:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bulk@1729.net) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:10:20 +0200 From: Bulk To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20100727091020.GA62077@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Bulk , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727002048.GB91286@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100727002048.GB91286@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:10:23 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:10:26 -0000 On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 06:20:48PM -0600, Chad Perrin typed: > > You're a self-righteous git, and probably personally offended by the > appearance of an attack on Christianity (which is never what was > intended, nor even what happened, at least in the case of the specific > email to which you replied). Try stepping back, reading more closely, > and responding to what was *actually* said. But in my honest opinion, all religion is evil. That's why I like beasty :D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 09:23:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BECB7106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F84D8FC0C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:23:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OdgO5-0005HJ-F2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:23:49 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1OdgO5-0004m6-BS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:23:49 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6R9Nnie045914 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:23:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o6R9NnSO045913 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:23:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:23:49 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100727092348.GA45883@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Intel PCI-E 4965AGN wireless iwn(4) isn't detected on Compaq 6715s laptop - USB bus? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:23:50 -0000 Hi I've HP Compaq 6715s laptop. I'm trying to get wireless working. The laptop has Intel 4965 4965AGN wireless WiFi PCI-E card 802.11N AGN which is supported by iwn(4). I compiled iwn support into the kernel as suggested by the man page. However, the card doesn't appear in dmesg or in pciconf -lv. The laptop has a wireless toggle button, which is supposed to enable/disable wireless. There is also an LED, which lights on when wireless is enabled, and goes off when wireless is off. Well, at least this is what should happen. On boot the LED is on. If I press the button to disable wireless, the LED goes off and in dmesg I see: ugen0.2: at usbus0 (disconnected) When I switch wireless back on again I see in dmesg: ugen0.2: at usbus0 Does this mean that wireless sits on USB bus? Does this give me a clue about how to debug the problem further? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 10:09:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC881065670 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:09:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393DE8FC1A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so1096475wwe.31 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 03:09:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=puQe6hcgNBN3WO5dmZvleelexJWQ8jSQWT1V+5uQy/o=; b=lUwyQWYcneGFBIzJ+6tHV0hVqrKur5d9l8qLkAhar5JCr6/zavGkUwGZhN0Z0J9at8 Fn2mYJyCGCkqqJAlYmev8wpU9xsm6l0JniJlTmRU2fiXQM3931hocVN2hhRJT3g92h8P d8GvbMIYdNOkZ+rBvyxYycpQ0YMrOGkZn3oIs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=BbszHF8OnL4vokfNNqKh/Oz3VdbV/LEHgAMOJ6Yof2GNXq9nuEswO09jU0h/E5IsTo ny84FA4Qz8PG3zUdFjTXjCfyOLclRUZ4e0jZsnM2QQ+Zs2G/HmBE5FN0cqunvA8MvBLa Opt++G29qVdb9XPxg8zzuY81Rsw1zg9EgrIvw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.167.80 with SMTP id h58mr8664602wel.49.1280225372915; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 03:09:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.171.10 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 03:09:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:09:32 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: zaxis Subject: Re: I donot like using mergemaster ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:09:34 -0000 On Monday 26 July 2010, zaxis wrote: > I want to upgrade my freebsd 8.0 to 8.1. I have read all the steps > about upgrading freebsd. I feel mergemaster is difficult to use e.g. > which parameters should i use ? (you may wish to use -U or -ai or > -Fi) Well, obviously you will get more out of mergemaster if you read the manpage and take the time to decide which options will work best for you. But if you can't be bothered to do that, the suggested usage in /usr/src/UPDATING works for most people. Also, there is an alternative to mergemaster that is supposed to be easier to use in some ways: John Baldwin's new port, sysutils/etcupdate. You may want to take a look at that. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 10:25:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058A61065675 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:25:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB06B8FC21 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.212]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 27 Jul 2010 03:24:44 -0700 Message-ID: <4C4EB426.3080109@comclark.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:25:42 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jul 2010 10:24:44.0341 (UTC) FILETIME=[EE58C650:01CB2D75] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Cc: Subject: ports INDEX file layout? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:25:49 -0000 Where can I find the description of the /usr/ports/INDEX-8 file? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 10:28:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3302C106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:28:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from ifdnrg20.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [195.66.148.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9B48FC15 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:28:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.131] (93-97-172-73.zone5.bethere.co.uk [93.97.172.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by ifdnrg20.ifdnrg.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6RA7x0X097711; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:07:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <4C4EAFFC.7080209@ifdnrg.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:07:56 +0100 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: claudiu vasadi References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apps update from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:28:40 -0000 > I was wondering about your update strategy. Do you update your apps as soon > as a new version is available in the ports ? Or do you follow the "if it > works, don't touch it" strategy ? > > I'm guessing "portupgrade" is your preferred way of doing this hence, do you > also choose -P or -PP ? I update mine regularly, pretty much as they come out. On occassion you will find that bugs are found with updates and that a new version will be bumped a day or so later, but someone has to find the bugs! I use portmaster on some machines, portupgrade on most. Doug Barton recently added extra logging to portmaster which now enables audit tracing so you can log what was updated when, portupgrade has a switch to log to a file but there's not as much detail and no datestamps. Paul. -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07534206249 e: paul@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com ------------------------- IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA ------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 10:35:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0F9106568F for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:35:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C988FC0C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:35:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so1117788wwe.31 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 03:35:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=nrUrh4/jo+GcEECrgPf/yOrPPMcal7nOraluYhSqIiY=; b=b1wZ8FtoIV1DQyzwGoszykZ5duCUk0TU8evPiWP/JRuy5AF/mTAjCfHyDKwRibLVG3 8pJ7Stbo2HWGgl8VIlpLlvlAy2ADRix8NBnTUjMmomkd627yL/A498nRAEXDsYKe0FZe 2imh3Usg5Zppw9PTexhiChHMO33PUuoXnV55g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=QaTS/BV0gcG1FYfoNDN29pw3qyMt2eymTMIaWlRCb0l4Eq4z9eGEKr/GwDxwiJ0Rmv zy3BI2CteDYiiN7QeGZTaYwZm/haC1mKkt8lGstd061dveAvQFZ7QOZiu0jqQ6OnDGgS BMFQerXCIthVnPn7RoCNch6yswSuOVO8oXThw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.145.5 with SMTP id b5mr1152400wbv.189.1280226943794; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 03:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.171.10 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 03:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:35:43 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: claudiu vasadi Subject: Re: apps update from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:35:45 -0000 >I was wondering about your update strategy. Do you update your apps as soon >as a new version is available in the ports ? Or do you follow the "if it >works, don't touch it" strategy ? > There is no one strategy that pleases everyone. You'll have to consider the time required to perform updates (including some time for configuring and learning how to use the new software, and for recovering from occasional problems), and weigh that against the benefits (if any) of having new software. Some people prefer to use the latest software, and others may use a snapshot of the ports tree that coincides with a stable release, updating only those ports with known critical security problems in between releases. Sometimes, you may wish to make this decision on a port-by-port basis. >I'm guessing "portupgrade" is your preferred way of doing this hence, do you >also choose -P or -PP ? If you don't need to build from source, in order to use non-default options or flags, or get the very latest versions of the port, then packages are a good choice. In addition to portupgrade, the comparatively lightweight ports-mgmt/portmaster port also has this functionality. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 12:01:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9937106568F for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:01:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B2698FC2F for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so576680fxm.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 05:01:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=AKGIBWvjKN3s3srVn2i2Id/QKF0BrEccFUHKg/TOMuQ=; b=b/cPSpIo4k2VhhooiJAiBiTavQYGFpt9w4xAjOjvHUNV3j3C7BhAuOx0XBV0pnBFTV NNJoKrwxMNCFaYEt6fRhCEaxz52r+8axFO+sK7as7ZY2CnSd0f1HtNDWc1wULsMsUShy dTqfYcB9XmqDQHTiLiF6ftCXAS8x4fqPO/WaY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ODiZpnF0BSmcc6IJSxquIDPWKEaibOIrLLFghetLlX7jird1nTLtfx2CCJIt4wF7Ib hp7Zw600ZWhPpvRAJZjeHHJoa+us5PK23DGRBdBFos+J75RcosLpF5uYy98I38G9Glgd KCUhXQ/iVynbsCVX7lWjJyAoqXD/tl4/JbDS8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.165.13 with SMTP id v13mr565861hbd.198.1280232074652; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.160.201 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:01:14 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: bf1783@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, zaxis Subject: Re: I donot like using mergemaster ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:01:17 -0000 On 27 July 2010 11:09, b. f. wrote: > On Monday 26 July 2010, zaxis wrote: > > I want to upgrade my freebsd 8.0 to 8.1. I have read all the steps > > about upgrading freebsd. I feel mergemaster is difficult to use e.g. > > which parameters should i use ? (you may wish to use -U or -ai or > > -Fi) > > Well, obviously you will get more out of mergemaster if you read the > manpage and take the time to decide which options will work best for > you. But if you can't be bothered to do that, the suggested usage in > /usr/src/UPDATING works for most people. Also, there is an > alternative to mergemaster that is supposed to be easier to use in > some ways: John Baldwin's new port, sysutils/etcupdate. You may want > to take a look at that. > > > b. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > here is my mergemaster config. Modify the ignore files to suite your needs then just run mergemaster without any switches. Its not perfect but works for me fine. # cat /etc/mergemaster.rc AUTO_INSTALL=YES AUTO_UPGRADE=YES PRESERVE_FILES=yes PRESERVE_FILES_DIR=/var/mergemaster/preserved-files-`date +%y%m%d-%H%M%S` IGNORE_FILES="/etc/crontab /etc/fstab /etc/group /etc/hosts /etc/inetd.conf /etc/make.conf /etc/master.passwd /etc/motd /etc/newsyslog.conf /etc/ntp.conf /etc/ntp.drift /etc/profile /etc/rc.conf /etc/resolv.conf /etc/services /etc/shells /etc/syslog.conf /etc/ssh/sshd_config /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key.pub /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key.pub /etc/passwd /etc/rc.conf.local /etc/zfs/exports /etc//namedb/named.conf /etc/periodic.conf /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts /etc/pf.conf /etc/sysctl.conf /etc/make.conf /etc/src.conf /etc/mail/aliases /etc/mail/mailer.conf /etc/remote /etc/mail/freebsd.mc/etc/mail/ freebsd.cf /etc/mail/freebsd.submit.mc /etc/mail/freebsd.submit.cf" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 12:49:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62615106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@rgbaz.eu) Received: from jasper.secsrv.net (jasper.secsrv.net [66.98.138.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7568FC14 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:49:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.161.18.200] (helo=[10.0.1.101]) by jasper.secsrv.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OdgQx-000714-P9 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 05:26:48 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) From: FBSD UG In-Reply-To: <20100727091020.GA62077@ei.bzerk.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:26:43 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <0A796661-C7FF-467B-ADFE-88A97E411B33@rgbaz.eu> References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727002048.GB91286@guilt.hydra> <20100727091020.GA62077@ei.bzerk.org> To: Free BSD Questions list X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jasper.secsrv.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - rgbaz.eu X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:49:03 -0000 On 27 jul 2010, at 11:10, Bulk wrote: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 06:20:48PM -0600, Chad Perrin typed: >> >> You're a self-righteous git, and probably personally offended by the >> appearance of an attack on Christianity (which is never what was >> intended, nor even what happened, at least in the case of the specific >> email to which you replied). Try stepping back, reading more closely, >> and responding to what was *actually* said. > > But in my honest opinion, all religion is evil. > That's why I like beasty :D > lol yeah and FreeBSD means 'Free Beelzebub, Satan, Devil' ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 12:49:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A897106570C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:49:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E7A8FC0C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:49:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6RCmrvN012808; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:48:53 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6RCmrRW012804; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:48:53 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 869D333C3D; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:31:40 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:31:40 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: zaxis Message-ID: <20100727123140.GA5410@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: zaxis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <29262747.post@talk.nabble.com> <201007260917.32632.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <29272211.post@talk.nabble.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <29272211.post@talk.nabble.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I donot like using mergemaster ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:49:13 -0000 On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 06:18:22PM -0700, zaxis wrote: > > > that's great ! I will use /etc/mergemaster.rc to upgrade my FB 8.0. > You might also want to put this line in mergemaster.rc: DIFF_OPTIONS='-I$FreeBSD:.*[$]' That makes mergemaster ignore changes in the CVS tags. With a good rc and a basic understanding of vi, you should be in good shape to make progress. I hated mergemaster when I first started using it but I love it now! Now I have to learn to love the "mergemaster" that freebsd-update uses... Anybody know how to make it ignore CVS tags? Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 13:04:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F207106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eforezz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7298FC1B for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so3684666wyj.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 06:03:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Fzr32+877YCqhFwFl06PeD5uEyHXhfSlPP4YkyJ2SAk=; b=SAULIUGwDIXfgJ9IxhMQ+fX62QNhvmPyMH39AB1I9cDSqED1acIBOeDdf5aeCUwvRl 2v6dfO3JXjLxRU+qf71UQhp3pXoh8fKcIXjvr94fAKRI49h9zsN8O606Bo+vdGAT/JQ7 seLkt+Pnj9q/bJeRTfHxKIbjW/Q+WB+M41Jzw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=l1JWQf+mqK+EYodWvjx1CcanI3lAWHxQNs6JMo5VxpcOg1rvde/DkrAjo47q8x1dFB 37TXJUDDqQgrrbxz8MNz7BEL4/lSaMzqJwKIpUtnOIBdqqC+QWvRI4vDcixSySzmWKZf ayQn0kFzU6LWHWkW6vCVGSwrchlQBgjfROXwI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.145.20 with SMTP id b20mr8867843wbv.28.1280234325318; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 05:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.139.134 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 05:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:38:45 +0300 Message-ID: From: EforeZZ To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Firewire RAM access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:04:00 -0000 Hi, I was playing around with fwcontrol and its "-m" switch. I connected my FreeBSD 7.2 notebook to Win7 PC Via firewire and attempted to access Win7's RAM through the /dev/fwmem interface. I failed. ================================================================ 5 root@purevil:ttyv0 ~ 15:11:24 > fwcontrol 2 devices (info_len=2) node EUI64 status hostname 0 00-1d-72-ff-ff-c5-6b-71 0 -1 00-1e-8c-00-01-7b-f5-38 0 ================================================================ Then I plugged in the cable: ================================================================ fwohci0: BUS reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc000ffc1, gen=8, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 2 nodes, maxhop <= 1, cable IRM = 1 (me) firewire0: bus manager 1 (me) 5 root@purevil:ttyv0 ~ 15:11:46 > fwcontrol 2 devices (info_len=2) node EUI64 status hostname 1 00-1d-72-ff-ff-c5-6b-71 0 0 00-1e-8c-00-01-7b-f5-38 1 5 root@purevil:ttyv0 ~ 15:11:49 > fwcontrol -m 00-1e-8c-00-01-7b-f5-38 0 root@purevil:ttyv0 ~ 15:12:00 > ll /dev/fwmem* lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8 27 Jul 14:56 /dev/fwmem0 -> fwmem0.0 crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 53 27 Jul 14:56 /dev/fwmem0.0 0 root@purevil:ttyv0 ~ 15:12:04 > more /dev/fwmem0 read error (press RETURN) ================================================================ The question is.. Should this always work? As far as I know I should be able to access other PC's RAM through the firewire connection without any support from the connected PC's OS, right? Best regards, EforeZZ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 14:10:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB4C8106567A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:10:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2D58FC22 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:10:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so645702fxm.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:10:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bNO3MJErvASOwnSoavLj9BH2JMfyyQsOfRiN/Gok3ng=; b=KTyqP1Qlm3Ar6o8/CUmvdxUxcrSdbsOAOiUIwWhGHE50Gcl2T9JJurz6JUAV/RkDSS IJzZnOQGdyQXuKPhxMgsMVw2BjkZJ+Cl7pPV8SygqlPJtYrDebVHkdoR36SjB2OdoLch lUEuJvTFyuEkO1elf0KTNC1HdkuyAs3JGe3cU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IRC8jikIralQz84TYQvolWtLn0kxJ7u181rOtZDqpclVXDokgd1Il6hZ4ZrmWyi7DQ hrX7y9Pg8VedwGg6SudN2766fdTK/ZHam85SSiaNd8ScaFUCJrenmMwpk5acuqBaDgfj Fqff9iBFgAu49MXwt6WbHmMh/ChYYUrEs86DA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.177.197 with SMTP id w5mr610396hbf.167.1280239842307; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.160.201 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:10:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100727123140.GA5410@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <29262747.post@talk.nabble.com> <201007260917.32632.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <29272211.post@talk.nabble.com> <20100727123140.GA5410@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:10:42 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Frank Shute , zaxis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: I donot like using mergemaster ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:10:44 -0000 On 27 July 2010 13:31, Frank Shute wrote: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 06:18:22PM -0700, zaxis wrote: > > > > > > that's great ! I will use /etc/mergemaster.rc to upgrade my FB 8.0. > > > > You might also want to put this line in mergemaster.rc: > > DIFF_OPTIONS='-I$FreeBSD:.*[$]' > > That makes mergemaster ignore changes in the CVS tags. > > With a good rc and a basic understanding of vi, you should be in good > shape to make progress. > > I hated mergemaster when I first started using it but I love it now! > > Now I have to learn to love the "mergemaster" that freebsd-update > uses... > > Anybody know how to make it ignore CVS tags? > > > Regards, > > -- > > Frank > > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Personally I wouldn't touch the update tool. I like to stick to the tried and tested cvsup, and make world method ive used for over 10 years From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 14:32:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9C11065688 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:32:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itmngr@cooperationireland.org) Received: from smtp4.irishbroadband.ie (smtp4.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DB48FC21 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:32:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [62.231.53.178] (helo=mail.cooperationireland.org) by smtp4.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OdkR4-0008Xg-47 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:43:10 +0100 Received: from [199.107.2.100] ([199.107.2.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.cooperationireland.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6RE0jNw040015 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:00:46 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from itmngr@cooperationireland.org) Message-Id: From: Michael Doyle To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:02:48 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, RDNS_NONE, TW_BD, TW_BF, TW_CB, TW_DR, TW_II, TW_KB, TW_TK, TW_UH, TW_XB, TW_XC, TW_XF autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.cooperationireland.org X-Scan-Signature: cd683516001ae09907a3ec850b0cdfc3 Subject: Upgrade 6.4-stable to 7.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:32:03 -0000 I would like to upgrade a server that is currently running version 6.4 up to version 7.3 Having looked at /usr/src/UPDATING on a 7.3 machine, I don't see any major problems flagged. Given that I have console access to this machine, and I want to preserve the user directories (it's our mail server) would I be better off doing a source upgrade or a binary upgrade? In the past, I've usually done a wipe-and-reinstall when moving between major version numbers but I would rather avoid that this time around. Also, would people recommend staying with version 7.3 or jumping all the way to version 8.1 ? Output of dmesg below: FreeBSD 6.4-STABLE #16: Mon Jul 26 22:41:28 IST 2010 root@mail.cooperationireland.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2800.11-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf41 Stepping = 1 Features = 0xbfebfbff < FPU ,VME ,DE ,PSE ,TSC ,MSR ,PAE ,MCE ,CX8 ,APIC ,SEP ,MTRR ,PGE ,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE> Features2=0x641d AMD Features=0x20100000 Logical CPUs per core: 2 real memory = 1073479680 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1037283328 (989 MB) ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 3 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 32-55 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Jul 26 2010 22:41:10) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 cpu0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 28.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 pcib3: at device 0.0 on pci2 pci3: on pcib3 pcib4: at device 28.4 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 bge0: mem 0xfe8f0000-0xfe8fffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci4 miibus0: on bge0 brgphy0: on miibus0 brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto bge0: Ethernet address: 00:12:3f:2a:1a:ee pcib5: at device 28.5 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 uhci0: port 0xcce0-0xccff irq 20 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xccc0-0xccdf irq 21 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xcca0-0xccbf irq 22 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xfeb00400-0xfeb007ff irq 20 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: wrong number of companions (7 != 3) usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3: on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered pcib6: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci6: on pcib6 pci6: at device 5.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfc00-0xfc0f at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 atapci1: port 0xcc98-0xcc9f, 0xcc90-0xcc93,0xcc80-0xcc87,0xcc78-0xcc7b,0xcc60-0xcc6f mem 0xfeb00000-0xfeb003ff irq 20 at device 31.2 on pci0 ata2: on atapci1 ata3: on atapci1 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff,0xc8000-0xc8fff, 0xec000-0xeffff on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2800113855 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec hptrr: no controller detected. acd0: CDRW at ata0-master UDMA33 ad4: 152627MB at ata2-master SATA150 Michael Doyle Network Administrator, Co-operation Ireland mdoyle@cooperationireland.org http://www.cooperationireland.org/ Co-operation Ireland Events: http://www.cooperationireland.org/supportus/overview Phone: +353-1-6610588 Fax: +353-1-6618456 Mobile: 00353-87-2357853 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 14:33:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6C3106566B for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:33:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A118FC18 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:33:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13507 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2010 14:33:44 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 27 Jul 2010 14:33:43 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 0F6CF5084F; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:33:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Jason References: <4C4BB441.2040103@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:33:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4C4BB441.2040103@gmail.com> (Jason's message of "Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:49:21 +0800") Message-ID: <44zkxd6lkp.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: bsd Subject: Re: What's the meaning of this warn? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bsd List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:33:44 -0000 Jason writes: > HI,ALL: > > My freebsd server offer service to thousands of clients. > I found lots of warning in the /var/log/message like this :"Approaching > the limit on PV entries, consider increasing either the > vm.pmap.shpgperproc or the vm.pmap.pv_entry_max tunable" > > My question is : > 1.what is the meaning of PV? Physical-to-Virtual mappings. > 2.Although there are lots of this warning,my server works still well. > Could someone explain the meaning of this warning ? With thousands of people running the same programs, there will be a lot of mappings for the memory pages containing the programs themselves, the libraries they use, and so on. As long as you're not running out of memory in general, you might get better performance by having more pv_entry structures available in the system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 14:35:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C762E1065672 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:35:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F1E68FC13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so3801152wyj.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:35:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=qBYD5EuuvJtcH36WLqcyD3n+culqHAfn+MeskoxgJas=; b=TgUv3sVj0/JWI7DNPZFxbu9G/8TQ9BSSOk43/RzQ8FRz17/re+8xAhpjyKOiu/KkqO AKz10WxPkDDBjV4yNOzPleniC/0TpDrVTnG0Cn7sGzZsApjIjenLlB2Uu5/MTB380HdN NyNv5Y7F1ygQUyqxcpCa4O0SR6gf9wECn8V0E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=I+5oqRtcaQg8ErhlsqEsm8qHaG7aKzhXaWD7/MUHgyqlBTNhMgjJfdu04218ETAcU5 hfflAfUr6SAukRuzkZIb/uzcA3+zmp+PW3UIWu1noxrBCp3M9/Mr970bZpIiFhgMoQj2 bW3WbMixQ4k5cLhDSsnY6uL1PqOH6aeNcYmBw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.69.17 with SMTP id x17mr9037786wbi.87.1280241352276; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.171.10 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:35:52 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Gary Kline Subject: Re: popt-1.50 or better?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:35:53 -0000 >On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:53:03PM +0000, b. f. wrote: >> >here are the last few lines of output from configure, ots-0.5.0: >> > >> >checking for pkg-config... /usr/X11R6/bin/pkg-config >> >checking for glib-2.0 >= 2.0 libxml-2.0 >= 2.4.23... yes >> >checking OTS_CFLAGS... -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 >> >-I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 >> >-I/usr/local/include >> >checking OTS_LIBS... -L/usr/local/lib -lglib-2.0 -lxml2 >> >checking for poptParseArgvString in -lpopt... no >> >configure: error: popt 1.5 or newer is required to build ots. >> >You can download the latest version from >> >ftp://ftp.rpm.org/pub/rpm/dist/rpm-4.1.x/ >> >> >> poptParseArgvString is in the $PREFIX/lib/libpopt.so.0 library from >> our devel/popt port. The latest available version of this software is >> 1.16, in the Red Hat repos. Look at the configure script to determine >> why it can't find the symbol. Maybe you need to reinstall devel/popt, >> or patch the configure script. >> > > > can anybody tell me how to upgrade just this one file: > devel/popt? i tried various forms up portupgrade. zip. I'm at a loss here. First of all, you mean "upgrade this port", right? Because devel/popt is a port, not a file. If you have an old version of devel/popt, it would seem that any of the standard updating tools would work. If you just want to reinstall it, you could simply: cd /usr/ports/devel/popt && make deinstall clean install && make clean Then you could check your libpopt.so.0: ldconfig -vr | fgrep popt objdump -T /usr/local/lib/libpopt.so.0 | fgrep poptParseArgvString Of course, I've assumed that PREFIX=LOCALBASE=/usr/local and PORTSDIR=/usr/ports. Make the proper substitutions if they aren't. I don't see any error logs or an IGNORE for textproc/ots, so I'm assuming that it builds properly on the package-building cluster. If that's the case, then there is something wrong with _your_ build: a corrupted file, polluted environment, error after autodetection, etc. But we won't know what is wrong until you show the corresponding part of the configure script and errors in the config.log. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 14:38:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010C51065675 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56738FC17 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:38:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20757 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2010 14:38:34 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 27 Jul 2010 14:38:34 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 4A7BB5084D; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:38:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Aiza References: <4C4EB426.3080109@comclark.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:38:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4C4EB426.3080109@comclark.com> (Aiza's message of "Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:25:42 +0800") Message-ID: <44vd816lcm.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: ports INDEX file layout? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:38:35 -0000 Aiza writes: > Where can I find the description of the /usr/ports/INDEX-8 file? Try bsd.ports.mk. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 14:39:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 079961065673 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:39:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FEC28FC18 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OdlJi-0001bM-Uk for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:39:38 +0200 Received: from pool-173-73-7-236.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.73.7.236]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:39:38 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-73-7-236.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:39:38 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:44:29 -0400 Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: <4C4DDA28.4070205@identry.com> <980022A0-7623-40A5-BCDE-4909A721933D@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-73-7-236.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: 1 file system, 2 drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:39:43 -0000 krad wrote: [snip] >> >> If you have hardware controller with RAID capabilities, using native RAID >> is better, otherwise look towards gvinum or maybe ccd; see also: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/raid.html >> [snip] > > I dont agree that hardware raid is necessarily better. It really depends > on what the system is doing. If for example it is purely acting as a filer > I would always use software raid. The main reason for this is that you > benefit from the faster CPU, and more intelligent raid software (zfs). You > are also not tied to a particular hardware platform which makes future > upgrades easier. In the bad old days (early) days hardware RAID was clearly better. This is not as true today as CPUs have scaled. The 3GHz plus quad cores of today have cycles to spare and can actually make software RAID faster in many situations. The questionable area would be RAID 5 and 6. The XOR processing done in the hardware controller is expensive, and hardware RAID is still probably a better way to go here. Other features such as hot swap, hot spare, scrubbing, and maintenance/monitoring utilities will be easier to find in the hardware RAID controller. > If however the system is doing lots of other things and you dont want the > overhead of a software raid solution, it makes sense to offload it to a > hardware solution Very expensive controllers are expensive because the processor on the card has more horsepower, which typically shows up in IO/s numbers as well as throughput as multi-thread queue depths rise. It is a shame to need to spend serious money on these cards just to get the inherent raw processor power even though you may turn off the RAID functionality and instead use ZFS and raidz. There is still a performance advantage to be seen because of the higher processing power available from a controller processor that has bigger umphh. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 15:13:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E824106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:13:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f182.google.com (mail-px0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D61B18FC17 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:13:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi8 with SMTP id 8so575641pxi.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:13:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=W3p6Saj0fBM7MOq3hVmtnAU8/ckUZYmb2WjnGEb8ZIo=; b=vClT3cdXtDzSNeM2tr68Klo8pZcSAM6Tuf8BZJ+kLTq8QdzE0WYBITVw1rpn24IPwn OJm6PYyouNUpzSpsgceH/YUzXu2vFFkGZz/I+4fhbWRhO+PLIP3GYe8mx6QeNx47a9/S 3gNe8yC8EQy6BJiDBv1ULYIO/kU0VdiPTUeRc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=yE4O6NpTDBcRWr4eSxiM0RdT96pCccGfzIESCsiIKl9i5rN3hI+PQdN9z88MQRPsqH xgQNfcxWIHCWkG9ezr8M7iE5aiqgTicKkEFmmSVwTAs6d8MVPoVUvHUXljr4/gcHukCQ 09PazZ5D7LwFprqCvn9gRS598cgkqqPVI8T/4= Received: by 10.142.207.9 with SMTP id e9mr10561540wfg.56.1280243621262; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:13:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.128.20 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:13:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100727010525.56d533b5.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <4C4DC4FA.6070400@antonioshome.net> <20100726173318.GC25072@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100727010525.56d533b5.freebsd@edvax.de> From: "Jack L." Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:13:21 -0700 Message-ID: To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Andrew Gould , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:13:42 -0000 I'll see about compiling binaries with certain configurations ;) Need to add a few more hard drives to my mirrors to accomodate this! On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:00:46 -0500, Andrew Gould wrote: >> Compiling OpenOffice is not a practical option for many of us due to >> hardware restraints. >> >> I'm glad to see that there's a compiled binary somewhere! > > Additionally, there's also the problem of the various configurational > items for the OpenOffice building process: if to use CUPS or not, > if to include Gnome-VFS support, KDE support, Mozilla support, > and the localized language (which does not even include dictionaries > for that language)... > > The times where "pkg_add -r de-openoffice.org" would give you, > for example, an OpenOffice in german language (WITH dictionaries!) > within a few minutes are over. :-( > > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 15:13:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C64106574F for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:13:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3528FC1D for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:13:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c83-255-61-120.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.61.120]:34180 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1OdlqJ-00063n-8X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:13:21 +0200 Received: (qmail 65533 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2010 17:13:18 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 27 Jul 2010 17:13:18 +0200 Received: (qmail 32136 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Jul 2010 17:13:18 +0200 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:13:18 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Michael Doyle Message-ID: <20100727151318.GA32104@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.61.120 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1OdlqJ-00063n-8X. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1OdlqJ-00063n-8X 8bf3616bd2f5be191b25e49a7fdda7f9 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Upgrade 6.4-stable to 7.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:13:54 -0000 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 03:02:48PM +0100, Michael Doyle wrote: > I would like to upgrade a server that is currently running version 6.4 > up to version 7.3 > Having looked at /usr/src/UPDATING on a 7.3 machine, I don't see any > major problems flagged. > > Given that I have console access to this machine, and I want to > preserve the user directories (it's our mail server) > would I be better off doing a source upgrade or a binary upgrade? Since you are running 6.4-STABLE, I think you will have to do a source upgrade. AFAIK binary upgrades are only supported when going from one -RELEASE to another (so 6.4-RELEASE to 7.3-RELEASE should be possible with a binary upgrade, 6.4-STABLE to 7.3-RELEASE would not.) > > In the past, I've usually done a wipe-and-reinstall when moving > between major version numbers > but I would rather avoid that this time around. > > Also, would people recommend staying with version 7.3 or jumping all > the way to version 8.1 ? Unless you have some specific reason to use 7.3 you might as well go all the way up to 8.1. You should probably do it in two steps though - first from 6.4 to 7.3 and then from 7.3 to 8.1 Just remember to make good backups first, just in case something goes wrong. (There should not be any serious problems involved - the source upgrades I have done from 6.x to 7.x and later from 7.x to 8.x were fairly uneventful - but you never know what might happen.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 15:16:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9B61065670 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:16:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f182.google.com (mail-px0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E531B8FC16 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:16:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi8 with SMTP id 8so577503pxi.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:16:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=ZV/P2K2L26FizC9lXJ5ge5Mqs/5JzP9M9QMlIBvAr2g=; b=wkjQrc+iMSEyO3Bwo/gawbmVDPY0XNEQ8j4j9vgEpjpbdznz2tb161hPvsaiWv8zYc A+QOXri6tPgKF9Jp7cgblPY2PLQVJgrX/hGf5lzB1T2Wde0mM54YG9PQjL9hljayQnvM t9dTyTJDvL3fhFVYtmtLBWyJc/V+nseNyRwG8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=XRbiwkOye+7DehctZQrTiAgy6wAylBwHiDdkl+Ve/cBmE4mIQBZzZkngBrr8Bjz52h lSFzu1YBV0C2TkbIoWXeY6E2E9hG0q3ke272NTiXyB3YfdGjnItvwDD1Ln/isP3LNliM yO5JKptlcV8t7uMy4mK+11To2h4bhL4Hmps94= Received: by 10.142.194.15 with SMTP id r15mr10484791wff.276.1280243773357; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:16:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.128.20 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:15:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C4DC4FA.6070400@antonioshome.net> References: <4C4DC4FA.6070400@antonioshome.net> From: "Jack L." Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:15:53 -0700 Message-ID: To: Antonio Vieiro Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:16:14 -0000 On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Antonio Vieiro wrote: > Hi all, > > For those trying to test OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE (no > official package yet): > > This: > ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/3.2.1/i386/OOo_3.2.1_FreeBSD81Intel_install_es.tbz > > From > ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/3.2.1/i386/ > > is working for me. > Those are the official packages ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 15:23:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EAB1065673 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@balholm.com) Received: from mail.my180.net (pop1-levy.go180.net [216.229.186.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4701A8FC08 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19294 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jul 2010 15:23:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (andy@balholm.com@63.224.217.218) by mail.my180.net with ESMTPA; 27 Jul 2010 15:23:31 -0000 From: Andy Balholm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:23:30 -0700 Message-Id: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: perrin@apotheon.com, mckusick@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:23:33 -0000 Chad Perrin wrote: > Andy Balholm wrote: >> although the UNIX term "daemon" is not satanic in origin, some = aspects >> of Beastie's appearance are obviously derived from traditional >> depictions of the Devil.=20 >=20 > Really? Are you sure they weren't derived from something else -- = perhaps > a source in common for the "traditional" depictions of the devil? = There > may be a common source for both, rather than one being the source of = the > other. Correlation does not imply causation. Did you ask the = original > Beastie artist for confirmation that he was consciously emulating = images > of the Christian devil, or did you just jump to a conclusion like the = OP? I jumped to a conclusion, but I'll stand by it until someone shows me = the ancient common source. I don't recall anything that looks much like = Beastie in Greek art. When someone in the modern western culture decides to draw a daemon and = it comes out looking like a "demon," the most plausible explanation is = that he was influenced=97consciously or unconsciously=97by this = culture's traditional way of depicting demons. In fact, not being = influenced by that tradition would take a conscious effort. So I find = that far more likely than an obscure common source. Note that I am not attributing the resemblance to any "fiendish" = motives. I expect the artist just found the pun too good to pass up. = I'll CC him in case he wants to comment on his sources, since you think = he should be asked. Andy Balholm (509) 276-2065 andy@balholm.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 15:26:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73069106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:26:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryan.vyhmeister@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03DC98FC15 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:26:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3892320bwz.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:26:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IrJJ5gPguzvu8g+uPweJ5u+vsAk2/FtSqxTAnS4B/ts=; b=cU4wp1tLPrt3HUwrttbdNwrgb6cX1cn5iwy5n7Rrd9YBpwhKlqvSsAT7f7SnCRYddA 34iItA8LfOgb4X4Y6OFAfc4rFfJouHbENKKt+q7c2BjjCGsEV2sn9sJq3VIzqdTTxEaJ 9UKfQqo631DdrUQtifmzqCKGFh9h7lnUgngZI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=I3EaKKPMof7B68+OCo1b68tNn72FgIFFAdvmQ//+vo22RiZO74UwZBI9znMHkEcbHY pBzw6CvxkaV0Rt1ldKAoD9lbSOv0fBeQe6Aw3VliJRJ4YTYO9KPCunqRh+FlRfWI3gD9 5MZD54VcT8SOPNKcD2sbkIXMu6R5Nvkm05rGI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.56.14 with SMTP id w14mr6659740bkg.187.1280242786912; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Sender: bryan.vyhmeister@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.49.8 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:59:46 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: zXa0PAhU_x_RmcJETFT15DDSv04 Message-ID: From: Bryan Vyhmeister To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: 2009 Intel Mac mini X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:26:27 -0000 I am very interested in getting FreeBSD 8.1 with ZFS running on a 2009 Intel Mac mini. I have no trouble getting it to run on all the previous Intel models but the 2009 versions hang on boot. I believe it is related to the issue mentioned on this page http://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleMacbook regarding r189055. Has anyone had success with this? Thank you. Bryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 15:29:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85DC61065670 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163008FC24 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:29:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so710128fxm.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:29:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wrObfz+kTJ4eg0jG+yJnvmK9b+X3/OR9JUotbo3rDrA=; b=hi5IeyZjJah0s4lsVaneNUh3L3+KgYV/mOsJl0ErlKPlBMmYHKDo4KQTFxd9imiNMv p58y/MXEeAZFQvbExhDBtIkQ5O/+lvTf+h1EfTTOEVz3qRXDUCpTJMDls599Q+2wNI5f 09wTSNSkIy916IMEKt72/lOBcyaZF3lMjF3ks= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=nH5441msTxi91qqN03ocfPATABxRJpJkDkwKP2cWvU8jsM2AUKMB3JdGI1Mv7uxYF1 uSPw+BTgRXbmy9TcCS50DPqzpWZcySXVoIOxU8gL9EQxhJtzYqxJ5199Bmj5OdmfraIQ Zc8gDhMsVLwyXp2MTZuNKevVA4qGVgkqNvid4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.188.19 with SMTP id n19mr553838hbh.154.1280244560784; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.160.201 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:29:20 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: possible NFS lockups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:29:22 -0000 I have a production mail system with an nfs backend. Every now and again we see the nfs die on a particular head end. However it doesn't die across all the nodes. This suggests to me there isnt an issue with the filer itself and the stats from the filer concur with that. The symptoms are lines like this appearing in dmesg nfs server 10.44.17.138:/vol/vol1/mail: not responding nfs server 10.44.17.138:/vol/vol1/mail: is alive again trussing df it seems to hang on getfsstat, this is presumably when it tries the nfs mounts eg __sysctl(0xbfbfe224,0x2,0xbfbfe22c,0xbfbfe230,0x0,0x0) = 0 (0x0) mmap(0x0,1048576,PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANON,-1,0x0) = 1746583552 (0x681ac000) mmap(0x682ac000,344064,PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANON,-1,0x0) = 1747632128 (0x682ac000) munmap(0x681ac000,344064) = 0 (0x0) getfsstat(0x68201000,0x1270,0x2,0xbfbfe960,0xbfbfe95c,0x1) = 9 (0x9) I have played with mount options a fair bit but they dont make much difference. This is what they are set to at present 10.44.17.138:/vol/vol1/mail /mail/0 nfs rw,noatime,tcp,acdirmax=320,acdirmin=180,acregmax=320,acregmin=180 0 0 When this locking is occuring I find that if I do a show mount or mount 10.44.17.138:/vol/vol1/mail again under another mount point I can access it fine. One thing I have just noticed is that lockd and statd always seem to have died when this happens. Restarting does not help I find all this a bit perplexing. Can anyone offer any help into why this might be happening. I have dtrace compliled into the kernel if that could help with debugging From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 15:55:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86B6106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:55:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC2758FC0C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:55:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o6RFt34j095629; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:55:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o6RFt2TD095628; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:55:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:55:02 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: David Brodbeck Message-ID: <20100727155502.GA95542@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <5fe257a732fe215609f88432ae3051d4.squirrel@www.gull.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5fe257a732fe215609f88432ae3051d4.squirrel@www.gull.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:55:33 -0000 On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 02:06:17PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: > On Mon, July 26, 2010 11:24 am, Paul Schmehl wrote: > > When this is the way one answers a simple question, I tend to believe > > there's no genuine interest in dialog. > > Well, I hate to break it to you, but people who are trying to make a > religious point aren't interested in dialog, anyway. In fact, it's pretty > well impossible to have a dialog with them that gets anywhere. You can't > have a sensible debate when the other person's fallback response is always > "it's god's will, so it's beyond our understanding and we can't question > it, and you're an evil person for not agreeing with me." These people > have been taught from a young age that logic is evil and will lead them > down the road to hell, so logical arguments are lost on them. Careful about making rash generalizations. I replied to the OP with some info on the background of BSDie and how he was drawn. He sent me a nice thank you and sounded more interested in the information than in promoting a cause. Although I have know those who seem to function in the way you describe, but I know as many or more religious people to think about what they say and are willing to let people of other persuasions to think and say what they want - and take responsibility for their own consequences. Don't let a few weirdos on TV and radio determine the total of your learning about religions. ////jerry > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 16:25:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D511065673; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pukruppa@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627128FC08; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3939936bwz.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:25:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=csfao0UPWjm6cNczwoxLMhu2mk/qwVOiJeSmSGddqkw=; b=nDsY/8dpKAXAwsWFUVYjiXUdE3+dm1Wp6c6nyybOCYod8iiBJZbbxulU+cP0z607q4 ycN0vBpzPJaVEkU2U1swNEdZV/HM+l4IXX/IWmblKavKjJtC5KFInCD4IGuZwhAnZ2HY 2ZHzydoiSu/qyCDB1zmWXaLihydaHQ8BB6b7g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hKYQ2rdujNXfW3zNZZNvntEhCzL7i7VwmaETLXIe8yCs6LPh0lauz/VtHpgOSNRSQx ILhKsfNo2NYMlJV3EcfJ7otM3dDEaE9M0BPcB0wgQO2kxxhvlhZ2iUfufyp2xsj6d6MG pqV5Pxo7yMrvqqV+DxBG4ZCpT/z1jeyQul1Qw= Received: by 10.204.153.10 with SMTP id i10mr7031321bkw.1.1280246344187; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pukruppa.de (pd95cabe3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.92.171.227]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y27sm3929385bkw.14.2010.07.27.08.59.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:02:21 +0200 From: "Kruppa, Peter Ulrich" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; de-DE; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100726 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Balholm References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: perrin@apotheon.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mckusick@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:25:19 -0000 Am 27.07.2010 17:23, schrieb Andy Balholm: > Chad Perrin wrote: > >> Andy Balholm wrote: >> >>> although the UNIX term "daemon" is not satanic in origin, some aspects >>> of Beastie's appearance are obviously derived from traditional >>> depictions of the Devil. >>> >> Really? Are you sure they weren't derived from something else -- perhaps >> a source in common for the "traditional" depictions of the devil? There >> may be a common source for both, rather than one being the source of the >> other. Correlation does not imply causation. Did you ask the original >> Beastie artist for confirmation that he was consciously emulating images >> of the Christian devil, or did you just jump to a conclusion like the OP? >> > I jumped to a conclusion, but I'll stand by it until someone shows me the ancient common source. I don't recall anything that looks much like Beastie in Greek art. > Perhaps there are some ancient depictions/sculptures of the greek god Pan (god of the shepherds) around? Pan partially resembles a goat. Greetings Uli. > When someone in the modern western culture decides to draw a daemon and it comes out looking like a "demon," the most plausible explanation is that he was influenced—consciously or unconsciously—by this culture's traditional way of depicting demons. In fact, not being influenced by that tradition would take a conscious effort. So I find that far more likely than an obscure common source. > > Note that I am not attributing the resemblance to any "fiendish" motives. I expect the artist just found the pun too good to pass up. I'll CC him in case he wants to comment on his sources, since you think he should be asked. > > Andy Balholm > (509) 276-2065 > andy@balholm.com > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 16:34:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5223C106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:34:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joey@mingrone.org) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CED8FC1E for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:34:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3946536bwz.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:34:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.68.208 with SMTP id w16mr6819859bki.122.1280247009969; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.7.138 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:10:09 -0300 Message-ID: From: Joey Mingrone To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: GEOM: mirroring and journaling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:34:19 -0000 Hello, I'm attempting to set up a storage server with mirrored and journaled filesystems. Initially I did the following: sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=17 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad8 bs=1k count=1 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad10 bs=1k count=1 gmirror label -vb round-robin gm0 /dev/ad8 gmirror load gjournal label /dev/mirror/gm0 gjournal load newfs -O 2 -J /dev/mirror/gm0.journal mount /dev/mirror/gm0.journal /mnt/mirror2 gmirror insert gm0 /dev/ad10 ,but I read in the archives there are potential issues with the labelling. Does anyone have any suggestions (or references to documentation) describing how this could be done? Are the GEOM parts for doing this sufficiently mature to consider this safe? This did seem to be working, but when I did a dump I got kernel panics like others who have posted recently. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 16:41:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64AC7106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:41:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E8988FC08 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe42 with SMTP id 42so686962yxe.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:41:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=CsEGQukboDeVPxvk9/+tDVMaHouKyH/xmrVrmDwUTTY=; b=nLukjrUo1FyiXFJmNqv9eVtOh3M7X764l0v1u1LEUcbjG0+MHe94SWnW3hIB3pTNlR pV8D3ouiZHDVAWwYVdXnJQIRda6KVKfQMty1UKqJCTpZssSh1P3rUP+XBiS3QCxtzvwN dMR9lDTz1mB6O15UronQrHxfjLPl+98Vwxa7w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=x88ku0FFyZp/ggIyFh+irX77iNO3Yl5J2ArNJ6kDwGTbdamJPgln5tI+qqQm7oIbGE u6I7DJDayBvb6P+cd+X/ZJ5ru2w90jB112Oh9y4HYJexw2gBGTzpPxj0nRkcV/umnQNH ZcMeVcaSFAw/ntuMqTfPAikKwKgYYVO9Q4Df4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.48.32 with SMTP id v32mr8073140ybv.115.1280248911109; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.107.12 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:41:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:41:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Joey Mingrone Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GEOM: mirroring and journaling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:41:52 -0000 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Joey Mingrone wrote: > Hello, > > I'm attempting to set up a storage server with mirrored and journaled > filesystems. Initially I did the following: > > sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=17 > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad8 bs=1k count=1 > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad10 bs=1k count=1 > gmirror label -vb round-robin gm0 /dev/ad8 > gmirror load > gjournal label /dev/mirror/gm0 > gjournal load > newfs -O 2 -J /dev/mirror/gm0.journal > mount /dev/mirror/gm0.journal /mnt/mirror2 > gmirror insert gm0 /dev/ad10 > > ,but I read in the archives there are potential issues with the > labelling. Does anyone have any suggestions (or references to > documentation) describing how this could be done? > > Are the GEOM parts for doing this sufficiently mature to consider this > safe? This did seem to be working, but when I did a dump I got kernel > panics like others who have posted recently. > Sure it's safe, but you should hardcode the metadata, see man gjournal(8) You should also read the section on the size of the journal, I'd guess yours is too small and the source of your panics. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 17:01:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FAC2106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:01:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swell.k@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF78F8FC26 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:01:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so1522348ewy.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:01:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:references :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=4eu89FC1F+YrFckgCoxJQI7b2qaAATLu5qkya7EPEFM=; b=dGVOt/u58zV4APr9EHB1CbF+fC2JvmoNgEXMyoSRxTZMPsOrd6sntrNM3CI8pLntjc YlZO7JMHpV/Af4XkejRowFWSeg/CikRZcg59EyneJJydwlLpdbAhE9au6bA262PyvCGT Yf76rma6GF1gH/uQCxSa4w3yew7rXbvd/SzOU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=lid852iZie5fbWTPVAaNyxPa1dbOgQiTOe0819XpfTSis4gISHbCn9o5zQ2MVLFw2W EAOmqhb1uyO914c42IOQr1ugkT+abz5k7bVRAN4ffVQAqxH3mH68hmneZ+209wJyyn0n G5jp2ayN4wsfqj5CqmK6LxocLBeM354u9Ykmw= Received: by 10.14.29.13 with SMTP id h13mr1294572eea.35.1280250100450; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([95.143.193.145]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a48sm7871740eei.0.2010.07.27.10.01.38 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:01:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Anonymous To: zaxis References: <29262747.post@talk.nabble.com> <201007260917.32632.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <29272211.post@talk.nabble.com> <20100727123140.GA5410@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:01:13 +0400 In-Reply-To: <20100727123140.GA5410@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> (Frank Shute's message of "Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:31:40 +0100") Message-ID: <86vd8097vq.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I donot like using mergemaster ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:01:42 -0000 Frank Shute writes: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 06:18:22PM -0700, zaxis wrote: >> >> >> that's great ! I will use /etc/mergemaster.rc to upgrade my FB 8.0. >> > > You might also want to put this line in mergemaster.rc: > > DIFF_OPTIONS='-I$FreeBSD:.*[$]' I think it's already done by FREEBSD_ID (-F) in rc file. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 17:10:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6651065675 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:10:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root@mediamonks.net) Received: from mail.mediamonks.net (mail.mediamonks.net [217.195.117.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314FF8FC0A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:10:47 +0000 (UTC) X-CGP-AntiVirus: Scanned and found clean by Sophos X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse reports about this email to abuse@mediamonks.net Received: from [145.99.190.150] (account terrence@mediamonks.com) by mail.mediamonks.net (CommuniGate Pro IMAP 5.3.8) with XMIT id 6220215; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:40:45 +0200 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:40:44 +0200 Organization: MediaMonks B.V. Message-Id: <830f98ddc54bcc41ac46d252a43b68ed@mediamonks.com> In-Reply-To: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Thread-Topic: BSD logo Priority: Normal Importance: normal X-MSMail-Priority: normal X-Priority: 3 Sensitivity: Normal Thread-Index: AcstqnTuo3fHknGuT6Wke/BNbW5acQ== From: "Terrence Koeman" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-MAPI-LastModified: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:40:44 +0200 X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro MAPI Connector 1.52.53.1/1.53.3.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "Kruppa, Peter Ulrich" Subject: RE: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:10:48 -0000 [snip] > > > Perhaps there are some ancient depictions/sculptures of the greek god > Pan (god of the shepherds) around? Pan partially resembles a goat. > This page has some articles on the subject: http://www.helium.com/knowledge/112455-where-did-the-image-used-to-represen= t-satan-come-from -- Regards, T. Koeman, MTh/BSc/BPsy; Technical Monk MediaMonks B.V. (www.mediamonks.com) Please quote all replies in correspondence. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 17:17:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450DB1065670 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nickolay.krylov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E438FC21 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe42 with SMTP id 42so702737yxe.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:17:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZnbVW5FfuYx2WVkrs5WDN6pefR/yl9i/RXZVx7QhhqI=; b=IGA49odKgcQ8QJMDNG2/MVbNDZkOq9prfsmvFdJi+KHMv/kEdnaDQEf5zVUzCecaQV 92HgYUKb3e+LGrZZ9Ohw+E5jMlccUAWZWZYsPyV553tIBXzU9dcQ60gZJ26Yh25lvh7N YKtYpMO50JYeHbw+1EWO+RfKzs2/qsWASYEhk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=avisSDBLZ0BPDFWyLdGVC9Kxn+slZRV0UO8hLgl8TQdCt4SH1gBMI+/1z+IyoMlX+M IzVSDh4KmylHG+TAus1Jq3qF/DlyrBpxLl3ihMl4NyuwOcsU8ttuv41Rt9St2b6K6t1p Ky811kunedCUknWQT3ug5GB+NEHnV3/TePyLI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.58.20 with SMTP id g20mr10590083yba.83.1280249228892; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.50.21 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:47:08 +0400 Message-ID: From: Nickolay Krylov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: How to enable NCQ on freebsd 8.1 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:17:08 -0000 Hi, all. I have enabled "options ATA_CAM" in the generic kernel and now can't understand NCQ works or not. There is some info. # uname -a FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #1: Mon Jul 26 11:58:32 UTC 2010 nk@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BOOT81A amd64 # camcontrol devlist at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (ada0,pass0) at scbus3 target 0 lun 0 (ada1,pass1) at scbus4 target 0 lun 0 (ada2,pass2) at scbus5 target 0 lun 0 (ada3,pass3) # camcontrol tags ada0 -v (pass0:ata2:0:0:0): dev_openings 1 (pass0:ata2:0:0:0): dev_active 0 (pass0:ata2:0:0:0): devq_openings 1 (pass0:ata2:0:0:0): devq_queued 0 (pass0:ata2:0:0:0): held 0 (pass0:ata2:0:0:0): mintags 32 (pass0:ata2:0:0:0): maxtags 32 # camcontrol identify ada0 pass0: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device pass0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) protocol ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device model ST31000524NS firmware revision SN11 serial number 9WK05TA2 WWN 5000c5001fe537d6 cylinders 16383 heads 16 sectors/track 63 sector size logical 512, physical 512, offset 0 LBA supported 268435455 sectors LBA48 supported 1953525168 sectors PIO supported PIO4 DMA supported WDMA2 UDMA6 media RPM 7200 Feature Support Enable Value Vendor read ahead yes yes write cache yes yes flush cache yes yes overlap no Tagged Command Queuing (TCQ) no no Native Command Queuing (NCQ) yes 32 tags SMART yes yes microcode download yes yes security yes no power management yes yes advanced power management no no 0/0x00 automatic acoustic management no no 0/0x00 254/0xFE media status notification no no power-up in Standby no no write-read-verify yes no 0/0x0 unload no no free-fall no no data set management (TRIM) no # cat /var/run/dmesg.boot | grep ada ipfw2 (+ipv6) initialized, divert loadable, nat loadable, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to accept, logging disabled ada0 at ata2 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 ada0: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada1 at ata3 bus 0 scbus3 target 0 lun 0 ada1: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device ada1: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) ada1: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada2 at ata4 bus 0 scbus4 target 0 lun 0 ada2: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device ada2: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) ada2: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada3 at ata5 bus 0 scbus5 target 0 lun 0 ada3: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device ada3: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) ada3: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ada0s1a This system installed on Tyan Tomcat K8E motherboard. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 17:27:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D886E1065670 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:27:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@nrdx.com) Received: from www3.stelesys.com (www3.stelesys.com [69.61.23.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF398FC12 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:27:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-76-17-97-137.hsd1.ga.comcast.net ([76.17.97.137] helo=[192.168.0.104]) by www3.stelesys.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Odnw9-000Nkx-9Z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:27:29 -0400 Message-ID: <4C4F16FF.8090001@nrdx.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:27:27 -0400 From: Jerry Bell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - www3.stelesys.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [26 6] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - nrdx.com Subject: Re: How to enable NCQ on freebsd 8.1 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:27:31 -0000 I believe you need to use AHCI. I recently moved a test system over to AHCI and this is what I see at boot time for my hard drive: ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 ada0: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: Command Queueing enabled ada0: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) Regards, Jerry On 7/27/2010 12:47 PM, Nickolay Krylov wrote: > Hi, all. > > I have enabled "options ATA_CAM" in the generic kernel and now can't understand > NCQ works or not. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 17:31:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C23D1065674 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:31:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mavbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4C78FC0C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so808051fxm.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:31:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eC/Au6XFWGQTyZLEKZEUC/AmJ4fhPoQCMc2w7RRarJ0=; b=HmIDbup7wtGMkT0kImozBpjt6co5PRnxKg25jk/QzHIKCZGRRV/qDG2aKxmuNiR254 5Ae2ir8oYoqbMhrWKLJtyhb+clXteTCbCvQv5k1ZxW/+kI1qcLktcrmwLCwvkMYGw/4c +YNpNBgmcBLZjBQdKTiN3x7AfhQvPEZOm8FNw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=U273n3b+1Mf/FVjDvOQp/Klj4Wi5yrPhZFr7fq/E/Pb2Kf5REy8+WP+uNRX98MEbxV L58NMX4Wnm1xHGW86pBewiTWctdxZDgEep6P6vFc6/av1RWswVlnNztFzLpGu9a31bGK NfwsurFYqCwwup11KZkjN5XhkBJuIAjo1Mxmo= Received: by 10.223.103.198 with SMTP id l6mr8317892fao.102.1280250310653; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mavbook.mavhome.dp.ua (pc.mavhome.dp.ua [212.86.226.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s20sm230681faa.28.2010.07.27.10.05.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Alexander Motin Message-ID: <4C4F11C2.6060805@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:05:06 +0300 From: Alexander Motin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100402) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nickolay Krylov References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to enable NCQ on freebsd 8.1 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:31:51 -0000 Hi. Nickolay Krylov wrote: > I have enabled "options ATA_CAM" in the generic kernel and now can't understand > NCQ works or not. "options ATA_CAM" enables wrapper for existing ata(4) controller drivers, that do not support command queuing. All this option give to you is switching to newer bus management and peripheral code. > ada0 at ata2 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 > ada0: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device > ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) > ada0: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) If NCQ was supported, you would also see there lines: ada0: Command Queueing enabled > This system installed on Tyan Tomcat K8E motherboard. To support MCQ you should use one of new drivers: ahci(4), siis(4) or mvs(4) on supported hardware. As I can see, your board is based on nForce4 chipset, which supports NCQ in own proprietary way, which is not supported at the moment and unlikely will be ever supported, as it is quite old already and all later chisets are AHCI compatible instead of it. -- Alexander Motin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 17:46:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002BE1065676 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:46:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonio@antonioshome.net) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 903CE8FC0C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:46:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi17 with SMTP id 17so1217wwi.31 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.136.146 with SMTP id r18mr9242189wbt.53.1280252773948; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from antonio.localnet (247.pool85-49-219.dynamic.orange.es [85.49.219.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b18sm4445218wbb.1.2010.07.27.10.46.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C4F1B06.7020900@antonioshome.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:44:38 +0200 From: Antonio Vieiro User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100630 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jack L." References: <4C4DC4FA.6070400@antonioshome.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:46:16 -0000 D'oh! Are those the official packages? pkg_add -r -v openoffice3 didn't work from the command line (that's why I posted this, just in case there're any other newbies reading this ;-)). Cheers, Antonio On 27/07/2010 17:15, Jack L. wrote: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Antonio Vieiro > wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> For those trying to test OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE (no >> official package yet): >> >> This: >> ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/3.2.1/i386/OOo_3.2.1_FreeBSD81Intel_install_es.tbz >> >> From >> ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/3.2.1/i386/ >> >> is working for me. >> > > Those are the official packages ;) > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 17:53:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C218E106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:53:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837098FC1A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-179-206.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.179.206]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472F53D524; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:53:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o6RHrXvE001542; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:53:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:53:32 +0200 From: Polytropon To: claudiu vasadi Message-Id: <20100727195332.198ef7a5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apps update from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:53:35 -0000 On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:16:15 +0200, claudiu vasadi wrote: > Hello fellas, > > I was wondering about your update strategy. Do you update your apps as soon > as a new version is available in the ports ? Or do you follow the "if it > works, don't touch it" strategy ? I think you will get similar answers, but let me tell you a few words about my individual update strategy: I DO BOTH. For servers, especially where I run critical apps, I follow the bugs and announce lists (of the installed programs) to decide if an update is required due to security reasons, then I update. Also, customer requirements are important. If a functionality is required that is only provided by a newer version, then I also update. Finally, when I want to test out new features, both in OS and applications, I usually go with "bleeding edge". I'm often surprised to see how well things do work. For my home system, as I have quite "static requirements", I go with "no broke, no repair". That's why I'm still on version 7 here, and everything works. Due to the fact that my hardware here is not "bleeding edge", I can't afford most "modern" applications, e. g. compiling OpenOffice is a no-go here. So my installation stays the same for a very long time, usually until it breaks (as it happened to be beloved version 5 system which did run PERFECTLY, until total file system crash). I like the concept of "install once, then use", but it doesn't always fit, as to be seen in the first examples. I also have machines that have been set into work many years ago, e. g. a 300 MHz P2. I do not touch it in any way as I don't want to lose its functionality. So I don't update anything there. It's no problem as there are no security considerations related to such specific systems. > I'm guessing "portupgrade" is your preferred way of doing this hence, do you > also choose -P or -PP ? No, if I want to go with packages (I really like them), I use pkg_add -r. When I did use portupgrade, make and pkg_add altogether, pkgdb -aF was a helpful tool. In fact, there are few cases when I really have to compile things myself (e. g. X without HAL/DBUS stuff, OpenOffice, which I don't compile, mplayer, where several options have to be set to make it usable, and very few others). Precompiled packages are a very comfortable way of installing software in short time. I've been advised that portmaster is, in some regards, the better port management program. I've tried it out and found that it's really good. There are also others, like portmanager, but I haven't tried this one yet, so I can't tell you how it fits into the picture. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 17:58:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E270106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:58:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0498FC12 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:58:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi17 with SMTP id 17so17167wwi.31 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:58:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Q1fmLHJ+SCU61Lm9ZACsG9d9R9ZbMG/z+q3Csc7e73g=; b=ACXtug6X5JpjFYewc5GrQVzIGfHbbQFLfSi/WkLTBXuuGqgzGMJV3A8ZiVhKgJN0dh VM3ysqH0jGYf7AncbDPR8UyOKZfxmHXA05vvRmRX1N7vc/zjyhkZ7UUexFZh5sZbpoLD lpoQpapynlbfAZXGlSTfre1qHh37XAEHXIKAk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ws7SzhzM7RL5JqajpdFIAQjzQPT+ilKHrSYqcSlQlFnl4rqXxzzeHs2OanxY98pc3h SbaPgwYhzHECcPT1Ol6OZwt6onPOOoytmY49SiMMd/667ngqJmxsV5Dg2UghgUmxzToR N7hkhry1tw+ZuA+5omrXz8pjxKIxp3lyllvmw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.132.166 with SMTP id o38mr9284852wei.16.1280253513280; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:58:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.168.207 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:58:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:58:33 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: autologin KDE, 8-1-RELEASE-amd64 not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:58:35 -0000 Dear folks, I am not sure why, but autologin is not working, I get authentication errors :( I setup KDE as the desktop using echo 'exec /usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde4' > ~/.xinitrc echo 'local_startup="${local_startup} /usr/local/kde4/etc/rc.d"' >> /etc/rc.conf echo 'kdm4_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf and logging in as root and using the System Settings, I chose autologin as myself(regular user, member of wheel/operator groups(if it is important)) but I get authentication error :( I try to login as root, but root is not allowed exept if I start in console mode, i,e, comment out the lines in /etc/rc.conf and I make changes, but cannot get autologin to work. I know that autologin is discouraged, but this is a home computer and no other person uses it execpt me, how should I fix it? Thank you for advice/suggestions/comments. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 18:19:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84F51065677 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:19:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EE38FC15 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:19:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 16526 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2010 18:19:49 -0000 Received: from dsl081-163-112.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO ringbill.gull.us) ([64.81.163.112]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 27 Jul 2010 18:19:48 -0000 Received: from alphonse ([192.168.10.9] helo=alphonse.gull.us) by ringbill.gull.us with esmtpa (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Odokf-000JhA-HF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:19:41 -0700 Message-Id: <55B927F3-9B71-4041-B5F2-3E2FFE130C90@gull.us> From: David Brodbeck To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <20100727195332.198ef7a5.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:19:40 -0700 References: <20100727195332.198ef7a5.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: apps update from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:19:50 -0000 On Jul 27, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Polytropon wrote: > For servers, especially where I run critical apps, I follow the > bugs and announce lists (of the installed programs) to decide if > an update is required due to security reasons, then I update. I find the VuXML FreeBSD RSS feed to be quite handy for this: http://www.vuxml.org/freebsd/ It aggregates a lot of that information in one place. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 18:28:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1141065678 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:28:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546F98FC21 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:28:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Odogj-0003KL-RO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:15:39 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:28:09 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:28:09 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100727182809.GD39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100727195332.198ef7a5.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100727195332.198ef7a5.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: apps update from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:28:15 -0000 --J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Polytropon on Tuesday, 27 July 2010: > On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:16:15 +0200, claudiu vasadi wrote: >=20 > Finally, when I want to test out new features, both in OS and > applications, I usually go with "bleeding edge". I'm often > surprised to see how well things do work. >=20 That's my experience, too. When I was told that in order to get my wireless device working I would need to upgrade to STABLE, I shuddered with the fearful anticipation of using a "development version" of the O/S. But it has lived up to the name STABLE. Likewise with recently released ports. Occasionally there's a breakage, but I've always (touch wood) been pleasantly surprised by how easy it is to set things right. Not like the "can't get there from here without a wipe and load" situations in which I often found myself during the 20 years in which my main system ran Windows (oh, the waste!) --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMTyU5AAoJEIpckszW26+RsbkH/3CkRrTeIETr1hnEl9boEjUJ /ktP5DFL6idY8BVO2pyp/LnzA40BrnFeLHD+vCpJUekHZm/G0i28BBU0aNja032M hybyXCU9Ajhem2InT5UrG5GBRSI8f01BZxkdo4PUAPsROg8wzqpEoa5FabNMB2P3 d/jgrH2KgRAh23cK0uAik7wapT+b8+P/oXQwulg8BtmRb975DGZ7ihwiOC074Fvx Le/UXaAie86ClUp9EqtSzvQ28b5WpRJXTcL71LjHHoD56/nAF92nUzvPMR2FzxAz QxyfD0OrvyrsH+47oFpYoDtj4Mp6t4coa+Dw9aCtTlFkb5mAcc8UoyWiNrLKGMA= =jzSD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 18:59:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52929106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:59:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trsantos1@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7AB8FC16 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:59:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj23 with SMTP id 23so751134gwj.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:59:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=BVb4SmrgXkfKF5skPjl3MV1yjHl7huQE3M98d5ArrVQ=; b=izM6bPReZa+/E8YZI7JnM/d8FPGlqxw31hkLF9K3oIxtLpFkYClSMhtPfT6szWy80a oNMdpQErc6viQbPq+GKrP+vHgVlVwMmsViien0F632EZYXcrjYfiqAIH7eumHQxLO/eP lPQdHYRnTVZcNP2v97mZjgRro3ZG+cAFxkZ4Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=fiNrxfsMCK7mLbIagMdzGmHHi9V6nGn4xf48seLMTNAZEuP274unRZh+UM4H7Lp8ha FkPF4whoBcXwWxmfDieMLI8KRrjpM/1i767fGa5mrlON0GWQWgRj+TQwqdxLsO8GagPr iDc5wXVz7TvEiR8mR9RfuYNBNkrjgbBE+CMJw= Received: by 10.151.62.37 with SMTP id p37mr11362163ybk.275.1280255475696; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.my.domain ([201.82.141.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p8sm7324207ybk.3.2010.07.27.11.31.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:31:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Thiago Rodrigues Santos To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:31:12 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.4.5; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201007271531.12641.trsantos1@gmail.com> Subject: Re: autologin KDE, 8-1-RELEASE-amd64 not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:59:47 -0000 Em Ter=E7a-feira 27 Julho 2010, =E0s 14:58:33, Antonio Olivares escreveu: > Dear folks, >=20 > I am not sure why, but autologin is not working, I get authentication > errors :( >=20 > I setup KDE as the desktop using >=20 > echo 'exec /usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde4' > ~/.xinitrc >=20 > echo 'local_startup=3D"${local_startup} /usr/local/kde4/etc/rc.d"' >> > /etc/rc.conf echo 'kdm4_enable=3D"YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf >=20 > and logging in as root and using the System Settings, I chose > autologin as myself(regular user, member of wheel/operator groups(if > it is important)) but I get authentication error :( >=20 > I try to login as root, but root is not allowed exept if I start in > console mode, i,e, comment out the lines in /etc/rc.conf and I make > changes, but cannot get autologin to work. >=20 > I know that autologin is discouraged, but this is a home computer and > no other person uses it execpt me, how should I fix it? >=20 > Thank you for advice/suggestions/comments. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Antonio > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hello. If you don't have the /etc/pam.d/kde-np file, you need to create it= =20 with the following content: auth required pam_permit.so account required pam_nologin.so account required pam_unix.so session required pam_permit.so =2D-=20 Thiago Rodrigues Santos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 19:00:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C073106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:00:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26398FC08 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:00:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6RJ0dWK042367; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:00:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:00:38 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: bf1783@gmail.com Message-ID: <20100727190038.GB76011@thought.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: popt-1.50 or better?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:00:41 -0000 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 02:35:52PM +0000, b. f. wrote: > >On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:53:03PM +0000, b. f. wrote: > >> >here are the last few lines of output from configure, ots-0.5.0: > >> > > >> >checking for pkg-config... /usr/X11R6/bin/pkg-config > >> >checking for glib-2.0 >= 2.0 libxml-2.0 >= 2.4.23... yes > >> >checking OTS_CFLAGS... -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 > >> >-I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 > >> >-I/usr/local/include > >> >checking OTS_LIBS... -L/usr/local/lib -lglib-2.0 -lxml2 > >> >checking for poptParseArgvString in -lpopt... no > >> >configure: error: popt 1.5 or newer is required to build ots. > >> >You can download the latest version from > >> >ftp://ftp.rpm.org/pub/rpm/dist/rpm-4.1.x/ > >> > >> > >> poptParseArgvString is in the $PREFIX/lib/libpopt.so.0 library from > >> our devel/popt port. The latest available version of this software is > >> 1.16, in the Red Hat repos. Look at the configure script to determine > >> why it can't find the symbol. Maybe you need to reinstall devel/popt, > >> or patch the configure script. > >> > > > > > > can anybody tell me how to upgrade just this one file: > > devel/popt? i tried various forms up portupgrade. zip. > > I'm at a loss here. First of all, you mean "upgrade this port", > right? Because devel/popt is a port, not a file. If you have an old > version of devel/popt, it would seem that any of the standard updating > tools would work. If you just want to reinstall it, you could simply: > > cd /usr/ports/devel/popt && make deinstall clean install && make clean > > Then you could check your libpopt.so.0: > > ldconfig -vr | fgrep popt > objdump -T /usr/local/lib/libpopt.so.0 | fgrep poptParseArgvString > > Of course, I've assumed that PREFIX=LOCALBASE=/usr/local and > PORTSDIR=/usr/ports. Make the proper substitutions if they aren't. > > I don't see any error logs or an IGNORE for textproc/ots, so I'm > assuming that it builds properly on the package-building cluster. If > that's the case, then there is something wrong with _your_ build: a > corrupted file, polluted environment, error after autodetection, etc. > But we won't know what is wrong until you show the corresponding part > of the configure script and errors in the config.log. > > b. i already did the make deinstall reinstall. so, looks like i do have the latest version. also, yup: p2 11:54 [5898] objdump -T /usr/local/lib/libpopt.so.0 | fgrep poptParseArgvString 00004400 g DF .text 00000212 Base poptParseArgvString tx for the clue. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 19:07:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2758F106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:07:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=81700a7bb=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-001.utdallas.edu (ip-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFA08FC12 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:07:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: None X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Au4EAGnETkyBbgog/2dsb2JhbACTGY08ww2FNgSECQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,269,1278306000"; d="scan'208";a="36802214" Received: from zxtm01.utdallas.edu (HELO utd65257.utdallas.edu) ([129.110.10.32]) by ip-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 27 Jul 2010 13:38:35 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:38:38 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20100727002048.GB91286@guilt.hydra> References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727002048.GB91286@guilt.hydra> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:07:36 -0000 --On Monday, July 26, 2010 18:20:48 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 01:24:21PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> --On Saturday, July 24, 2010 00:24:46 -0600 Chad Perrin >> wrote: >> > >> > When this is the way someone starts a "discussion" about wanting to use a >> > new OS, I tend to believe there is no genuine interest in using the OS in >> > question. >> >> When this is the way one answers a simple question, I tend to believe >> there's no genuine interest in dialog. I am therefore left to wonder who >> really is the intolerant one. One cannot claim to be tolerant while >> demonstrating intolerance any more than one can claim to be educated >> without every having read a book. > > How perspicacious of you. I'll quote myself basically saying exactly > that -- that I am not particularly interested in "dialog" with someone > who, I'm sure, has already made up his or her mind: > > In any case, I didn't claim to be "tolerant". In fact, I very > specifically said I was sure someone would accuse me of intolerance, and > went on to explain that I am guilty of intolerance of those who are > intolerant themselves. Why are you just repeating what I have said, but > in the tone of an accusation? How intolerant are *you* today? > We can let the readers decide that. (Not that it matters to me one way or the other.) The man asked a simple question. You then launched into a lengthy diatribe against intolerance, and you continue to lash out at anyone who takes issue with your responses. I made no value judgments about you. I simply parroted your own words. Yet you rise up in self-righteous anger in response. Then you cement your apparent ntolerance of any criticism with "pot, kettle, black". Perhaps the mote in your eye is obscuring the mite in others. >> >> It's amazing to me the ridicule heaped upon the man for asking a question. >> Would it have been too difficult to simply answer the question, as the >> first response did? No, we have to attack the man for having beliefs that >> are different from our own. Because we're so enlightened? Or because we >> are even more ignorant than we suppose he is? > > I *did* answer the question before heaping ridicule on someone who, as I > stated, I believe had already made up his or her mind, and had no genuine > interest in dialog in the first place. > So now that you know you were wrong, will you apologize? (I'm not holding my breath.) At a minimum, get some help for the anger issues. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 19:15:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58B51065679 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:15:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from debackerl@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4647A8FC14 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:15:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so879392fxm.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:15:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=doLwHFB+3RYoE2y5LJfQn9GW0IUrolaJFlAO5X46GIk=; b=g65mk+eoG8gRCFDT3A75qb0TGT5iD5b7wxrEITAHIhIlER+fYizqW1b5m/dOHJMtxb 6ftmDOhTOfRemYirHnY9viz/10BpeqvZCZVKmO5oiip7ULeqosmhoq+TjqVq3PykFptE x4YEd2fzd+q2D/5bAxyTB+RLkWRKcmkqiqMME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=DgQTEz6H2O/dJRY7lmulnetTtG+EaS1IyFCLtUMyovVaSaCIwhbRKfj3YNeMyNtv7/ z7+E5kAHLlo3LFeimR1S6Qdk7TEdI37lDJ2EE+3+1Ei091McA3nIZTL+BqMkIW0QJaDz XDZksEvj5uC7iQ9I1dg1H1LUW+M9G8NWePkNI= Received: by 10.223.117.194 with SMTP id s2mr8542302faq.57.1280256354124; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:45:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.115.193 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:45:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Debacker Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:45:34 +0200 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Real-Time Video Recording (ionice equivalent) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:15:40 -0000 Hi, I'm looking for a ionice equivalent for FreeBSD. Let suppose that I setup a NAS using FreeBSD. I can substain 50MiB/s writing. Let suppose that I have a 720p security camera, writing at 2 MiB/s in a file. Then I have 10 users copying files around. All of this activity (camera + users) through Samba, so each connection has a dedicated process. Problem is that I want to give camera's maximal priority to guarantee smooth recording. I don't expect Samba to use much CPU, 99% should be spent in IO. So if I set the nice value of camera's process to Real-Time, it should do much, because its process will be on wait status most of the time. Consequently, when some IO requests coming from camera's process are in the queue, I want them to have top priority compared to requests coming from other processes. As the camera is limited to 2MiB/s, I expect the system to remain responsive. I know that seeks may lower the speed of the HDD, but as the HDD is slowing down, completing requests, I expect the number of camera IO requests to increase in the queue, and to be packed together, hopefully, stabilizing the number of seeks. BTW, I would use "root preexec" setting of Samba to execute a shell script for each new connection, giving best priority to the process if the user is "camera". Any idea? Thanks Laurent Debacker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 19:23:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D1C1065675 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:23:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 432358FC16 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:23:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywf9 with SMTP id 9so761097ywf.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:23:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=JXOK2LgeYtXt6MaYCQgcWAmBjF/osb4y+8jTo2n47RU=; b=QG83Ti6kwcUqEouLqjoA/N6cPNKg7VHH+9J903h2TZbexn1vGxki/0eAQhPs9Mlm1f NnUGx6tzzFRp1ag8PeFYT7Fmij5UN6fZb/+ShoRmuInxMnvuaWVoARm8h7IkYl0DnXgn YIHa8HDWYsZuwVuUvir3IGRZdhgGKNr0XcLvk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Pf68VKP+lg+UZE58TJ6bnwdd4YoekxlS+Ms9vk4hr/4G1R5X7IxLeM3ctYcAbmNf8Z TtmDAgCHlkI+ALkMLO24M8mM9Eb1cu5QCpWdwnOr2jBYrWROk7vJPuheds7/dB0Zjb9p kqS4dtBqRh3J6CVT4WCSSQ8Ii/zbyG0bcuEK0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.94.14 with SMTP id w14mr1460279ybl.68.1280258619432; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:23:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.15.73 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:23:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:23:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Debacker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real-Time Video Recording (ionice equivalent) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:23:40 -0000 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Debacker wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for a ionice equivalent for FreeBSD. Let suppose that I setup a > NAS using FreeBSD. I can substain 50MiB/s writing. > Let suppose that I have a 720p security camera, writing at 2 MiB/s in a > file. Then I have 10 users copying files around. > All of this activity (camera + users) through Samba, so each connection has > a dedicated process. > > Problem is that I want to give camera's maximal priority to guarantee smooth > recording. > > I don't expect Samba to use much CPU, 99% should be spent in IO. So if I set > the nice value of camera's process to Real-Time, it should do much, because > its process will be on wait status most of the time. > Consequently, when some IO requests coming from camera's process are in the > queue, I want them to have top priority compared to requests coming from > other processes. > As the camera is limited to 2MiB/s, I expect the system to remain > responsive. > > I know that seeks may lower the speed of the HDD, but as the HDD is slowing > down, completing requests, I expect the number of camera IO requests to > increase in the queue, and to be packed together, hopefully, stabilizing the > number of seeks. > > BTW, I would use "root preexec" setting of Samba to execute a shell script > for each new connection, giving best priority to the process if the user is > "camera". > > Any idea? > > Thanks > > Laurent Debacker Would putting the camera's storage space on a separate HDD from the other users help? Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 19:27:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5AE1065670 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbaltz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C228FC21 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:27:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so886194fxm.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:27:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ABtlKZL/0lyAl2NhuW2Rk5fhueU5ecVJqH9baSy+F+g=; b=mS1PHtb1Z9E+VFFL0YevfFBFixB4mSwk4Q4K6VfbLT+ZxRlqTLx6kCkjZZnQrfUWiN PrgKKE+k10bjX5YzmgULYAuPhJd1qY66bT89Dc/8esop59yYduxxkNAOIYli4gRC4yUN cx1VDQ+9BMgf5tW845drb3lvFqabi7JABAqrs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=n+3J/8OCG8SLYMHfrrAepHzv79+hw1kAva4f4NXsZF+3DuC60EKcO2gFeK1vhQ9Fal zbnb9cJ6W1fV+4vY43FHCZpB69PYFD6dgll6OUKLSoDo7+FaRoziZBA/OwkiTkz0QCgZ PqtsgAVQ4Iy+UjN5kcSAMazF6iu/odFOhLETI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.184.5 with SMTP id w5mr548766hbg.188.1280257241165; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.167.83 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:00:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:00:40 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Jerry B. Altzman" To: Victor Skovorodnikov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:27:21 -0000 2010/7/23 Victor Skovorodnikov > Hi! > This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. Why such a logo > for BSD? What is the > meaning of that logo? > I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get > deterred by its un-Christian > logo. > Have you considered changing it to something else? Doesn't have to be an > angel, but perhaps > something neutral ;-) ? > > I suggest you look at http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/new89/satan.773.html for some more information on this. > Victor. > //jbaltz -- jerry b. altzman jbaltz@gmail.com www.jbaltz.com foo mane padme hum twitter: @lorvax From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 19:30:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C86A1065673 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:30:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from debackerl@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1788FC1C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:30:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so887889fxm.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:30:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=xJvmsKBRWKNGdtsjVas0xvJo0lOoEhtLP0SHkopHqMI=; b=EGz7pbfe9pAkI6cZxG3qYS1T6amn609kFS2wg9+DKn0S6mA7LARKQkoELj7MFFTvrW t3IjbHOCi0TCtPyGy5rHW4fE7aA6/wXqKvWuvgAoWiPrPUc2ku9Dpy/CEM9x9Crs9RfM Y3c53FQnnxS8hdGeIXmP1FkOo3qqZc6vR3UDY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=opg7rLv/SzATmk3ssREm8kYeib+MhKal+x9yFWLX/VzMrydxX5kXP+3Mss3+ictMY4 dvHYWaqFDL3rjQybW3yN7LsaXccWl84MyJ9wJ4su0MimB5XFJ648fJaBp7eLq9M1JGW2 rmj0L8sOj1DS9W6lTlVwk2H+q4ChdQSSdsfoc= Received: by 10.223.115.201 with SMTP id j9mr8630625faq.48.1280259016201; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:30:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.115.193 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:29:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Debacker Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:29:56 +0200 Message-ID: To: Andrew Gould Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real-Time Video Recording (ionice equivalent) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:30:18 -0000 Of course, just like you could put real-time processes in one CPU, and normal processes on another to avoid implement complex algorithms. While your solution is pragmatic, I would like to know if there are "clean" ways to do it. If not, this would be a documented use case to why would anyone actually need an I/O scheduler. Laurent On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Andrew Gould wrote: > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Debacker wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm looking for a ionice equivalent for FreeBSD. Let suppose that I setup > a > > NAS using FreeBSD. I can substain 50MiB/s writing. > > Let suppose that I have a 720p security camera, writing at 2 MiB/s in a > > file. Then I have 10 users copying files around. > > All of this activity (camera + users) through Samba, so each connection > has > > a dedicated process. > > > > Problem is that I want to give camera's maximal priority to guarantee > smooth > > recording. > > > > I don't expect Samba to use much CPU, 99% should be spent in IO. So if I > set > > the nice value of camera's process to Real-Time, it should do much, > because > > its process will be on wait status most of the time. > > Consequently, when some IO requests coming from camera's process are in > the > > queue, I want them to have top priority compared to requests coming from > > other processes. > > As the camera is limited to 2MiB/s, I expect the system to remain > > responsive. > > > > I know that seeks may lower the speed of the HDD, but as the HDD is > slowing > > down, completing requests, I expect the number of camera IO requests to > > increase in the queue, and to be packed together, hopefully, stabilizing > the > > number of seeks. > > > > BTW, I would use "root preexec" setting of Samba to execute a shell > script > > for each new connection, giving best priority to the process if the user > is > > "camera". > > > > Any idea? > > > > Thanks > > > > Laurent Debacker > > Would putting the camera's storage space on a separate HDD from the > other users help? > > Andrew > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 19:55:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFEC1065679; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:55:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6CC8FC0C; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:55:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so902905fxm.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:55:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rWOz8nNTQrOgYW0+uBnP1vVr1kQ+FGW9soiIlD9YH1Y=; b=jWpt2IsMr8ji1teqnvJMuAVOqaBF7/d+bJD7f2HzYLpofzScxxytBTAvRG2JZSzLrZ jUZk4im/Y8knMz0DQ4l4rQYVMHgw+p4fSf2etlXhF0y5Xii8g3cupBcOUz5SIk5xfvAq D7yph8fjDKhHXPHfJ5oC426HAks6OtqcS7Qlw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=o2GC10U3LVUpaZERgwNIdmsH+Af35E+SBF3pqnLamLfTK0Qm/mJAiZbG+PCzsu9YKX XPGs+S3i2us5fG3GIGrm5KzaSBHrjCM+TTptYU63MpRLdY8DyDxV1FerGAs8J04pbF8m pVhQB3TjaBhzapkqgWA5QvULQWHgPKwaDI91I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.154.204 with SMTP id f12mr585988hbc.143.1280260542150; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.160.201 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:55:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:55:42 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: possible NFS lockups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:55:44 -0000 On 27 July 2010 16:29, krad wrote: > I have a production mail system with an nfs backend. Every now and again we > see the nfs die on a particular head end. However it doesn't die across all > the nodes. This suggests to me there isnt an issue with the filer itself and > the stats from the filer concur with that. > > The symptoms are lines like this appearing in dmesg > > nfs server 10.44.17.138:/vol/vol1/mail: not responding > nfs server 10.44.17.138:/vol/vol1/mail: is alive again > > trussing df it seems to hang on getfsstat, this is presumably when it tries > the nfs mounts > > eg > > __sysctl(0xbfbfe224,0x2,0xbfbfe22c,0xbfbfe230,0x0,0x0) = 0 (0x0) > mmap(0x0,1048576,PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANON,-1,0x0) = > 1746583552 (0x681ac000) > mmap(0x682ac000,344064,PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANON,-1,0x0) = > 1747632128 (0x682ac000) > munmap(0x681ac000,344064) = 0 (0x0) > getfsstat(0x68201000,0x1270,0x2,0xbfbfe960,0xbfbfe95c,0x1) = 9 (0x9) > > > I have played with mount options a fair bit but they dont make much > difference. This is what they are set to at present > > 10.44.17.138:/vol/vol1/mail /mail/0 nfs > rw,noatime,tcp,acdirmax=320,acdirmin=180,acregmax=320,acregmin=180 0 0 > > When this locking is occuring I find that if I do a show mount or mount > 10.44.17.138:/vol/vol1/mail again under another mount point I can access > it fine. > > One thing I have just noticed is that lockd and statd always seem to have > died when this happens. Restarting does not help > > > I find all this a bit perplexing. Can anyone offer any help into why this > might be happening. I have dtrace compliled into the kernel if that could > help with debugging > sorry i missed a bit of critical info # uname -a FreeBSD X 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #2: Mon Jul 26 16:10:19 BST 2010 root@mk-pimap-7.b2b.uk.tiscali.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DTRACE i From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 20:08:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5481065670 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43CA8FC18 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:08:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so910537fxm.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:08:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=7tdXsRnavxnFqh2Vmb+or5rtxvrTmWO4jsmbz2qpccs=; b=kMqQaDpKB1zEPnvhRk6xkz0iG2wqRtvVwqhpARqkhkyhXdLfGrpxgAcILykT7FcguN LHQWCJvCPOkmU4jIBBXyncHhXi+L60ZcA85RJQkX+GJYHfy0h2htkgaXsqqz+aWzgmWm 0+vmqFA9kY8aRwvHTRRVj82IlmbgeZOJf75A0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=TUO4UqzMr3k/uh1L0mGHaxfz7+3F42Ep883Q0/dRMRDlE3j7zaLT8dhCVEWBEmoRNF 4lwvjo3VrMG6IEDdinPXO5zDid7u3Nps4y59kNZ5HVBhE3jn8tGo4nZ+IZhAeCgm/PFp jcj7VUHAP52gK6aW3bAwi0zdv1GGvmCp2EO/Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.158.71 with SMTP id t7mr191311hbc.88.1280261293212; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.160.201 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:08:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100727151318.GA32104@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <20100727151318.GA32104@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:08:13 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Erik Trulsson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Michael Doyle , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Upgrade 6.4-stable to 7.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:08:15 -0000 On 27 July 2010 16:13, Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 03:02:48PM +0100, Michael Doyle wrote: > > I would like to upgrade a server that is currently running version 6.4 > > up to version 7.3 > > Having looked at /usr/src/UPDATING on a 7.3 machine, I don't see any > > major problems flagged. > > > > Given that I have console access to this machine, and I want to > > preserve the user directories (it's our mail server) > > would I be better off doing a source upgrade or a binary upgrade? > > Since you are running 6.4-STABLE, I think you will have to do a source > upgrade. AFAIK binary upgrades are only supported when going from one > -RELEASE to another (so 6.4-RELEASE to 7.3-RELEASE should be possible > with a binary upgrade, 6.4-STABLE to 7.3-RELEASE would not.) > > > > > > In the past, I've usually done a wipe-and-reinstall when moving > > between major version numbers > > but I would rather avoid that this time around. > > > > Also, would people recommend staying with version 7.3 or jumping all > > the way to version 8.1 ? > > Unless you have some specific reason to use 7.3 you might as well go > all the way up to 8.1. You should probably do it in two steps though - > first from 6.4 to 7.3 and then from 7.3 to 8.1 > > Just remember to make good backups first, just in case something goes > wrong. (There should not be any serious problems involved - the source > upgrades I have done from 6.x to 7.x and later from 7.x to 8.x were > fairly uneventful - but you never know what might happen.) > > > -- > > Erik Trulsson > ertr1013@student.uu.se > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I did a remote upgrade of our dns caches at work (24 boxes) from various 6.x builds. I did it all from source, and in two steps, once to 7-STABLE then once to 8-STABLE. It went fine in most cases. One thing i noticed though was some of the boxes were in dangerously dedicated disk layout. The dev tree in 6.x and 7.x had devices in the format of /dev/ad0a and /dev/ad0s1a. However 8.x only presented /dev/ad0a devices, like you would predict. Whoever origionally built the boxes had s1 type in the fstab which caught me out on a few of them. Not ideal on remote boxes. Other than that though the upgrades we nice and easy. Make sure you recompile all your ports though with something like portmaster. After you have done that do a make delete-old delete-old-libs and delete-old-dirs from usr/src, once your done to clean up the base distro. here's my mergemaster conf to speed things up a little if you aren't familier with it. Just make sure the ignore files is tailored to you then run mergemaster with no flags $ cat /etc/mergemaster.rc AUTO_INSTALL=YES AUTO_UPGRADE=YES PRESERVE_FILES=yes #IGNORE_FILES="/etc/rc.d/*" PRESERVE_FILES_DIR=/var/mergemaster/preserved-files-`date +%y%m%d-%H%M%S` IGNORE_FILES="/etc/crontab /etc/fstab /etc/group /etc/hosts /etc/inetd.conf /etc/make.conf /etc/master.passwd /etc/motd /etc/newsyslog.conf /etc/ntp.conf /etc/ntp.drift /etc/profile /etc/rc.conf /etc/resolv.conf /etc/services /etc/shells /etc/syslog.conf /etc/ssh/sshd_config /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key.pub /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key.pub /etc/passwd /etc/rc.conf.local /etc/zfs/exports /etc//namedb/named.conf /etc/periodic.conf /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts /etc/pf.conf /etc/sysctl.conf /etc/make.conf /etc/src.conf /etc/mail/aliases /etc/mail/mailer.conf /etc/remote" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 20:10:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F65106568A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:10:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD95E8FC17 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:10:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6RK9xhB024476; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:09:59 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6RK9x2f024471; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:09:59 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3469833C3D; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:09:59 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:09:59 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Anonymous Message-ID: <20100727200959.GB6718@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Anonymous , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <29262747.post@talk.nabble.com> <201007260917.32632.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <29272211.post@talk.nabble.com> <20100727123140.GA5410@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <86vd8097vq.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86vd8097vq.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I donot like using mergemaster ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:10:02 -0000 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 09:01:13PM +0400, Anonymous wrote: > > Frank Shute writes: > > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 06:18:22PM -0700, zaxis wrote: > >> > >> > >> that's great ! I will use /etc/mergemaster.rc to upgrade my FB 8.0. > >> > > > > You might also want to put this line in mergemaster.rc: > > > > DIFF_OPTIONS='-I$FreeBSD:.*[$]' > > I think it's already done by FREEBSD_ID (-F) in rc file. Thanks for pointing that out. Also made me notice a bug in the mergemaster manpage which I'll write a patch and pr for. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 20:42:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE283106567E for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:42:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@balholm.com) Received: from mail.my180.net (pop1-levy.go180.net [216.229.186.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8EA88FC1B for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25845 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jul 2010 20:42:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (andy@balholm.com@63.224.217.218) by mail.my180.net with ESMTPA; 27 Jul 2010 20:42:17 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Andy Balholm In-Reply-To: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:42:16 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> References: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> To: "Kruppa, Peter Ulrich" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: perrin@apotheon.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:42:19 -0000 On Jul 27, 2010, at 9:02 AM, Kruppa, Peter Ulrich wrote: > Am 27.07.2010 17:23, schrieb Andy Balholm: >> Chad Perrin wrote: >> =20 >>> Andy Balholm wrote: >>> =20 >>>> although the UNIX term "daemon" is not satanic in origin, some = aspects >>>> of Beastie's appearance are obviously derived from traditional >>>> depictions of the Devil. >>>> =20 >>> Really? Are you sure they weren't derived from something else -- = perhaps >>> a source in common for the "traditional" depictions of the devil? = There >>> may be a common source for both, rather than one being the source of = the >>> other. Correlation does not imply causation. Did you ask the = original >>> Beastie artist for confirmation that he was consciously emulating = images >>> of the Christian devil, or did you just jump to a conclusion like = the OP? >>> =20 >> I jumped to a conclusion, but I'll stand by it until someone shows me = the ancient common source. I don't recall anything that looks much like = Beastie in Greek art. >> =20 > Perhaps there are some ancient depictions/sculptures of the greek god = Pan (god of the shepherds) around? Pan partially resembles a goat. The BSD daemon doesn't look like a goat (or Pan) at all. Maybe he has = cloven hooves inside those tennis shoes; I don't know. But Pan could = certainly have had some influence on how the Devil was traditionally = drawn. My point wasn't that there is no earlier source that traditional = depictions of the Devil draw on. They aren't based on anything in the = Bible, so it seems quite likely that there is. I was just saying that = the BSD daemon is not derived from that ancient source _independently_; = its immediate source is almost certainly the traditional depictions of = demons. Andy Balholm (509) 276-2065 andy@balholm.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 20:49:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53781065673 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:49:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linnemannr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1C78FC1B for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:49:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so4978307iwn.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:49:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=9G6sPi4gOHPlHuYYKzxvW0kcCkbf9e3DaG52nTgH+so=; b=k/U+RNJN8vTzMulLGWL7xuDoT/VIV4x6KV/tAXm796lrow5771Ze9FRXvpP6vw6xLv keHwV/oW/z9r4e+wKzw0fi5MRYrC7mFpm4Y+VyHVpYrLPx3D2lWm2AwwPW1rSSkzsdcx /jWkGFpOT94SA/BCPjodujSN7J/zj2R6xIlfs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=cV1ObL1C+Xuw1InUsvll9m0bsrowQ2P8TyZxxtxEKrXUYe0sdPnqzii1Ko3jx5fGT2 YxzXsd4M1FPA3+mZExalhiP+zsGEQpj7sSJsMVz2M5NC2tioWK5HGHOPqHLZlDsn7f1w K+pxr5TTkbFfRmalG2CC9Smemgo+PETy6Sr8E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.157.212 with SMTP id c20mr10909813ibx.186.1280263787780; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:49:47 -0700 (PDT) Sender: linnemannr@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.152.19 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:49:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> References: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:49:47 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Xn7O9oLDmgWfL_PzTLrqozdNang Message-ID: From: Reid Linnemann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:49:48 -0000 On final analysis, I think the OP should abandon any desire for FreeBSD in favor of this: http://pudge.net/jesux/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 20:52:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B0E106566B for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6668FC08 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:52:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so1775490gxk.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:52:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=oZCmRnJs8Yo3ec75GnkMNI5P9/jA1Iwh0hbD2e8uTVQ=; b=wtqwqyVMR7bWMFgSChCVDmzufsYBV3CR9+FbJhDJlcV5/jk+3A2T08G0poMnK2+iO+ mjQoHRNM787vD4Qb5jdCA0iOyVaCktGum0S2euZm25FXTAtHkCh9T3K+6iq2yVE+0JvN sqndMGolMJ6lNdTrbVdTBYmToEoGt6X1PcRw4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=lAEEGQA6/gviLSXQZgX6APNu6z03d6M2CWYj/CCnmRx/0mdQlkHGnSFMZS5a4MJO8W xUISElwO3jwf0ZEorJsPUuJn8sDXQnIGFqZa4BqLByUSOhBicnxU9/fYQxNeoX8s8Qbc KZIDVTFaIqv35cQutsWNog2dWdC9Psjt4oZhI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.73.38 with SMTP id v38mr11764163yba.430.1280263926316; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.107.12 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:52:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:52:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Debacker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Andrew Gould , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real-Time Video Recording (ionice equivalent) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:52:07 -0000 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Debacker wrote: > Of course, just like you could put real-time processes in one CPU, and > normal processes on another to avoid implement complex algorithms. > While your solution is pragmatic, I would like to know if there are "clean" > ways to do it. If not, this would be a documented use case to why would > anyone actually need an I/O scheduler. > First, top-posting on this list is considered rude. Please don't do that. If you're running 8.1, try "man gsched", it's new and haven't tried it. Other than that, the traditional way would be to give higher priority to the process that needs it. It's the poor man's io scheduler, but it generally does work well. If you have lots of concurrent io and are running a UFS file-system, consider running gjournal as it scales those requests better. Also if you're hardware supports it, NCQ is available via the ahci and a few other modules. It will make your requests more efficient. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 21:11:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD10A106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:11:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tjg@soe.ucsc.edu) Received: from mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu [128.114.48.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA93B8FC17 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:11:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu [128.114.48.32]) by mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7399710084E8 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:11:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:11:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Gustafson To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <436181601.47471280265090354.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> In-Reply-To: <1779202015.47121280264751115.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [128.114.49.22] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.20_GA_3127.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 ([unknown])/5.0.20_GA_3127.RHEL5_64) Subject: mount_autofs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:11:30 -0000 Hi, I see that in /usr/src there are some things related to mount_autofs, but none of this is compiled or installed during the buildworld/buildkernel process. If I build mount_autofs by hand: cd /usr/src/sbin/mount_autofs make make install I get a binary that runs, but always complains: mount: Operation not supported by device Our network has a huge existing user base (thousands of computers and thousands of users) that are on Mac client, Linux clients, Linux servers and SunOS servers that all use autofs automount maps distributed via LDAP. I'm pushing hard for us to start using FreeBSD for some things, but the lack of an automounter that is compatible with the maps that we're already distributing for these other OSs is a show-stopper. Making a static copy of the mount maps for FreeBSD use is not going to work (for one thing, the maps change too frequently, and anyhow there are thousands of mount points and we don't want them all mounted on our BSD boxes all of the time) and I tried to get AMD to work using exec maps but found it to be incredibly unstable (and in fact AMD locked up my machine several times during the course of experimentation, requiring an actual power cycle to get the system responding again). I had a chat with Alfred Perlstein who worked on some autofs-compatible stuff back in about 2004 for FreeBSD that was dropped because of pressure by Apple. He thinks that the current Apple autofs might be licensed under the ASPL but doesn't have the bandwidth to do any work on porting that to FreeBSD. Unfortunately, my C skills are not up to snuff, so I'm in no place to port anything anywhere, so I was wondering if anyone else on the list had any interest in autofs for FreeBSD that might be a bit more fluent in C than I am? Tim Gustafson Baskin School of Engineering UC Santa Cruz tjg@soe.ucsc.edu 831-459-5354 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 21:29:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F251065679 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:29:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout023.mac.com (asmtpout023.mac.com [17.148.16.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7138FC1F for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:29:29 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp023.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L6800BGHJOSTO90@asmtp023.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:29:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1007270181 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-07-27_08:2010-07-27, 2010-07-27, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <436181601.47471280265090354.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:29:16 -0700 Message-id: References: <436181601.47471280265090354.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> To: Tim Gustafson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: mount_autofs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:29:30 -0000 Hi-- On Jul 27, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Tim Gustafson wrote: [ ... ] > I had a chat with Alfred Perlstein who worked on some autofs-compatible stuff back in about 2004 for FreeBSD that was dropped because of pressure by Apple. He thinks that the current Apple autofs might be licensed under the ASPL but doesn't have the bandwidth to do any work on porting that to FreeBSD. Most of the autofs code comes from Sun and is licensed under the CDDL. Some Apple-specific changes and pieces of glue are under the APSL. Various versions of the source code are available under: http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/autofs/ http://www.opensource.apple.com/tarballs/autofs/autofs-154.tar.gz It's likely that OpenSolaris has similar source available somewhere which would be likely to be under the CDDL only.... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 22:04:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3CAC1065670 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:04:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=81700a7bb=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-001.utdallas.edu (ip-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C458FC0C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:04:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: None X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAHb0TkyBbgog/2dsb2JhbACgWsJthTYEhAmORg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,270,1278306000"; d="scan'208";a="36818656" Received: from zxtm01.utdallas.edu (HELO utd65257.utdallas.edu) ([129.110.10.32]) by ip-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 27 Jul 2010 17:04:08 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:04:11 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: Reid Linnemann , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: References: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:04:12 -0000 --On Tuesday, July 27, 2010 15:49:47 -0500 Reid Linnemann wrote: > On final analysis, I think the OP should abandon any desire for > FreeBSD in favor of this: http://pudge.net/jesux/ Sheesh. Now I really have seen everything. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 22:09:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525F6106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192A38FC15 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:09:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ods9H-0006CS-NY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:57:21 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:09:52 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:09:52 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HAv5+T9jbwMPl6Kw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:09:58 -0000 --HAv5+T9jbwMPl6Kw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Paul Schmehl on Tuesday, 27 July 2010: > --On Tuesday, July 27, 2010 15:49:47 -0500 Reid Linnemann=20 > wrote: >=20 > >On final analysis, I think the OP should abandon any desire for > >FreeBSD in favor of this: http://pudge.net/jesux/ >=20 > Sheesh. Now I really have seen everything. Not quite. Someone needs to come out with an OS named Atheix, and another called Agnostix. Then we'll be complete. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --HAv5+T9jbwMPl6Kw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMT1kwAAoJEIpckszW26+RqNoIALk4MxvS3xHo3ziuefJtWYpd ywqMtk9QJCRa2/pr1bxVxBqTM6iHOVKRyWf0qklF5lrVklhF0yQwX84y2vqjxkKc EtYYg8I4GCVFYw1q/UVvRW1kSfZpMpfeAJFV5lmmWHoQSPUBc0t1HjJjA//WTYP3 aUk/IBXcduDqdVJ8Uqr6xpdv0yzrzo3wh4HpUdBFF1iJ1TtsklDXlMn8+mhqAlUu 8BVAA7g4wlt6NjJE1P2h+MscRZztna26Np2l7exlgYa6d6gDuAo2Gs2KM3lYF/69 tbvTX+cvW/B7Dp66qiLwQ8C5rRFstFuM7dxNtZVmhVyvzrd7ec+8MQacliJeZdw= =kbsf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HAv5+T9jbwMPl6Kw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 22:12:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E241065679 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:12:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root@mediamonks.net) Received: from mail.mediamonks.net (mail.mediamonks.net [217.195.117.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF9C8FC16 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:12:30 +0000 (UTC) X-CGP-AntiVirus: Scanned and found clean by Sophos X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse reports about this email to abuse@mediamonks.net Received: from [145.99.190.150] (account terrence@mediamonks.com) by mail.mediamonks.net (CommuniGate Pro IMAP 5.3.8) with XMIT id 6220480; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:12:29 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:12:28 +0200 Organization: MediaMonks B.V. Message-Id: <48c60c0224f4d8499e121f1e15a3b7a5@mediamonks.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Thread-Topic: BSD logo Priority: Normal Importance: normal X-MSMail-Priority: normal X-Priority: 3 Sensitivity: Normal Thread-Index: Acst2MymRQ20+NaXS8qGRtmPGdgxug== From: "Terrence Koeman" To: "Reid Linnemann" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-MAPI-LastModified: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:12:28 +0200 X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro MAPI Connector 1.52.53.1/1.53.3.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: RE: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:12:31 -0000 > Subject: Re: BSD logo > > On final analysis, I think the OP should abandon any desire for > FreeBSD in favor of this: http://pudge.net/jesux/ Is this real? It looks like a page from landoverbaptist.com or something. I= 'm still deciding whether to laugh or cry... -- Regards, T. Koeman, MTh/BSc/BPsy; Technical Monk MediaMonks B.V. (www.mediamonks.com) Please quote all replies in correspondence. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 22:15:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D04D106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:15:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root@mediamonks.net) Received: from mail.mediamonks.net (mail.mediamonks.net [217.195.117.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7C78FC0C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:15:46 +0000 (UTC) X-CGP-AntiVirus: Scanned and found clean by Sophos X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse reports about this email to abuse@mediamonks.net Received: from [145.99.190.150] (account terrence@mediamonks.com) by mail.mediamonks.net (CommuniGate Pro IMAP 5.3.8) with XMIT id 6220489; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:15:45 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:15:44 +0200 Organization: MediaMonks B.V. Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Thread-Topic: BSD logo Priority: Normal Importance: normal X-MSMail-Priority: normal X-Priority: 3 Sensitivity: Normal Thread-Index: Acst2UHB7D/+KdznSIehOuoDf9SQwA== From: "Terrence Koeman" To: "Chip Camden" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-MAPI-LastModified: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:15:44 +0200 X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro MAPI Connector 1.52.53.1/1.53.3.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: RE: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:15:47 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chip Camden > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 12:10 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: BSD logo > > Quoth Paul Schmehl on Tuesday, 27 July 2010: > > --On Tuesday, July 27, 2010 15:49:47 -0500 Reid Linnemann > > wrote: > > > > >On final analysis, I think the OP should abandon any desire for > > >FreeBSD in favor of this: http://pudge.net/jesux/ > > > > Sheesh. Now I really have seen everything. > > Not quite. Someone needs to come out with an OS named Atheix, and > another called Agnostix. Then we'll be complete. > I'm imagining Agnostix would need uncertain values for true and false, and= Atheix wouldn't believe in the PATH and therefore won't look for it. -- Regards, T. Koeman, MTh/BSc/BPsy; Technical Monk MediaMonks B.V. (www.mediamonks.com) Please quote all replies in correspondence. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 22:17:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8741F106567F for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:17:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9538FC22 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:17:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj23 with SMTP id 23so860978gwj.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:17:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tFWR9poctBqZC5tcTLglVum2Ki+ohLeYungnuISEEA4=; b=QzHLuQSqFXPCVEGnXCGUgK4xQ39Bfb26nOJpoAAcAzkOi49paBNEClCrlXE2GSHqp2 EAruphKYYxtc9qvn/1xTHAMR/8hmdR0Kompdz1JI3jT+BsSZuD4PE72nmqqOor2MW+4z 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do the following on a couple of machines: # portupgrade apache-2.2.14_5 I get a lot of churning, then this: find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_allocator.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_anylock.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_atomic.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_base64.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_buckets.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_date.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_dbd.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_dbm.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_dso.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_env.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_errno.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_file_info.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_file_io.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_fnmatch.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_general.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_getopt.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_global_mutex.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_hash.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_hooks.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_inherit.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_ldap.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_ldap_init.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_ldap_option.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_ldap_rebind.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_ldap_url.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_lib.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_md4.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_md5.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_memcache.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_mmap.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_network_io.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_optional.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_optional_hooks.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_poll.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_pools.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_portable.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_proc_mutex.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_queue.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_random.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_reslist.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_ring.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_rmm.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_sdbm.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_sha1.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_shm.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_signal.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_strings.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_strmatch.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_support.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_tables.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_thread_cond.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_thread_mutex.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_thread_pool.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_thread_proc.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_thread_rwlock.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_time.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_uri.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_user.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_uuid.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_version.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_want.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_xlate.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_xml.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apu.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apu_version.h: No such file or directory find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apu_want.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.16/server. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.16/server. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.16. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade20100727-77065-1krz7f3-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=apache-2.2.14_5 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=2.2.14_5 make reinstall ---> Restoring the old version ** Fix the installation problem and try again. [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 170 packages found (-0 +1) . done] ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! www/apache22 (apache-2.2.14_5) (install error) Looks like it wants apr-1, but I can do this: pkg_info | grep apr apr-ipv6-devrandom-gdbm-db42-1.4.2.1.3.9_1 Apache Portability Library so it looks to me as if I have it. I've grepped through the port and haven't found anything that mentions this. Anyone got a clue for me? Thanks, Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 22:26:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6FC1065678 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D60398FC08 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:26:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OdsP9-0001SD-Kx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:13:44 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:26:16 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:26:16 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <20100727222616.GQ39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NAmHCRPXNp23hR9r" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:26:22 -0000 --NAmHCRPXNp23hR9r Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Terrence Koeman on Wednesday, 28 July 2010: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chip Camden > > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 12:10 AM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: BSD logo > > > > Quoth Paul Schmehl on Tuesday, 27 July 2010: > > > --On Tuesday, July 27, 2010 15:49:47 -0500 Reid Linnemann > > > wrote: > > > > > > >On final analysis, I think the OP should abandon any desire for > > > >FreeBSD in favor of this: http://pudge.net/jesux/ > > > > > > Sheesh. Now I really have seen everything. > > > > Not quite. Someone needs to come out with an OS named Atheix, and > > another called Agnostix. Then we'll be complete. > > >=20 > I'm imagining Agnostix would need uncertain values for true and false, a= nd Atheix wouldn't believe in the PATH and therefore won't look for it. >=20 Well, Agnostix allow that there might be a kernel of truth. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --NAmHCRPXNp23hR9r Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMT10IAAoJEIpckszW26+RmU8IAIPC9b03v9ziEJl/SlHNkjV1 x9I0uOLfpy5rn5rpInn/qSeBD6+uOh7FNGfiMgVKWNgqiUHyyqWoKS7Ze3wxkFfW fVwgW9GtcEuq/XaEFTVnvhf8hUglWhoW1OF4bX+2Cc+wJSDK/IBhvac22L1ab4wr xxK+CUrL0g5YlPDWZPSdHrYmdQK2i7UA+fvnc1l8DLWx4pLO4DRyE7U85QhaXi4Y +f+yVomFDO1inKoksdV4tK6wv0AQk5PSs4XNXfnGGBfOXlN9mx94lSFEEbHRLz9b RRKQ4zvQj+2Hn1hM3vdAF6KHFyvnJS7TD3XF/8TwL4kLfwO5hp2fQizraakyQ+Y= =eddO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NAmHCRPXNp23hR9r-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 22:34:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB011065696 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:34:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFD48FC18 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:34:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6RMYr1o043755 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:34:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:34:52 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100727223452.GB44765@thought.org> References: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:34:55 -0000 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 03:09:52PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Paul Schmehl on Tuesday, 27 July 2010: > > --On Tuesday, July 27, 2010 15:49:47 -0500 Reid Linnemann > > wrote: > > > > >On final analysis, I think the OP should abandon any desire for > > >FreeBSD in favor of this: http://pudge.net/jesux/ > > > > Sheesh. Now I really have seen everything. > > Not quite. Someone needs to come out with an OS named Atheix, and > another called Agnostix. Then we'll be complete. > > -- > Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F > http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com this wins first prize:: ROFL. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 22:30:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE0A1065677 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:30:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from constellation.thenetnow.com (constellation.thenetnow.com [207.112.4.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F708FC13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:30:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANTPC) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Odsf2-000Hb3-3k for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:30:08 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:29:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:41:45 +0000 Subject: Daily Periodic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:30:09 -0000 Hi everyone, I asked this a few days ago, and did not get a response. I have this in my /etc/periodic.conf: constellation# more periodic.conf # 460.status-mail-rejects daily_status_mail_rejects_enable="NO" # Check mail rejects daily_status_mail_rejects_logs=0 # How many logs to check daily_status_mail_rejects_shorten="NO" # Shorten output And have chnaged this in my /etc/defaults/periodic.conf: # 460.status-mail-rejects daily_status_mail_rejects_enable="NO" # Check mail rejects daily_status_mail_rejects_logs=3 # How many logs to check daily_status_mail_rejects_shorten="NO" # Shorten output And am still getting all the reject mail data showing in my daily periodic output. I am using FreeBSD 8.0 p#3 The mta is Exim 4.69_4 built from ports. What am I doing incorrectly? Why am I still getting all the mail reject log lines in my daily periodic output? -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 22:33:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BAAC106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:33:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from constellation.thenetnow.com (constellation.thenetnow.com [207.112.4.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DFC8FC1D for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:33:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANTPC) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Odsih-000Hdd-MN for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:33:55 -0400 Message-ID: <10E4650A2BFB426791D24BE51450BEC0@GRANTPC> From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:33:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:41:56 +0000 Subject: Why am I getting mail rejects? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:33:56 -0000 Hi everyone, I asked this a few days ago, and did not get a response. I have this in my /etc/periodic.conf: constellation# more periodic.conf # 460.status-mail-rejects daily_status_mail_rejects_enable="NO" # Check mail rejects daily_status_mail_rejects_logs=0 # How many logs to check daily_status_mail_rejects_shorten="NO" # Shorten output And have chnaged this in my /etc/defaults/periodic.conf: # 460.status-mail-rejects daily_status_mail_rejects_enable="NO" # Check mail rejects daily_status_mail_rejects_logs=3 # How many logs to check daily_status_mail_rejects_shorten="NO" # Shorten output And am still getting all the reject mail data showing in my daily periodic output. I am using FreeBSD 8.0 p#3 The mta is Exim 4.69_4 built from ports. What am I doing incorrectly? Why am I still getting all the mail reject log lines in my daily periodic output? -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 23:14:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472871065675 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:14:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from smtprelay-h22.telenor.se (smtprelay-h22.telenor.se [195.54.99.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF1F8FC0C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:14:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb3.telenor.se (ipb3.telenor.se [195.54.127.166]) by smtprelay-h22.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34CDE966D for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:14:39 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.226.59.55] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlU+ANoET0xV4js3PGdsb2JhbACDFIRSmAMMAQEBATUtsHqRX4Emgx1zBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,270,1278280800"; d="scan'208";a="553803347" Received: from c-373be255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.59.55]) by ipb3.telenor.se with ESMTP; 28 Jul 2010 01:14:39 +0200 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6RNEbbk016057; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:14:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <4C4F685D.4050600@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:14:37 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TW9yZ2FuIFdlc3N0csO2bQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100727 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kurt Buff References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading Apache fails - I don't understand why, exactly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:14:41 -0000 On 2010-07-27 23:47, Kurt Buff wrote: > Trying to do the following on a couple of machines: > > # portupgrade apache-2.2.14_5 > > > I've grepped through the port and haven't found anything that mentions this. > > Anyone got a clue for me? > > Thanks, > > Kurt Check /usr/ports/UPDATING. The entry from 20100518. Regards Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 23:40:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85381065674 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:40:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5788FC14 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:40:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so5182532iwn.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:40:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=i9ESv3u1g1IDq6PoHw1VhnrokQgQhVW37QnIK/kVtk0=; b=J6zAmR4jXKsqxLMS1m+nxuWxm5l/1oAy3l/HArXVdLd1Qgi3pq3/zftgJSd0NtRxls jRiHkHA+rM+G6pkknKiZBY+R1wR5HZREP4MvDRpbbOiER3S+NhEXzMPnxVx4/qug/6W7 b59DhhjDI/wWRXvpCTZORiTBO6QzMkS1zkFBg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MpcWEoo6vAHO8bQsT/Zv/uu+JJfIRlzqOJlnOSADTSIjRyrCPtp8PvRx+a0zyoYfRL QibzqWMckpVFSmNlxGkkim9n8WASZ9E+e6g3HcwZB1xai/qoQbvITqGFiO9ZVgamQWrL yuoI7IJBQ9h/kkHRnSr5tdrdhvNvOcZg9c20I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.34.135 with SMTP id l7mr10840981ibd.148.1280274004826; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.196.152 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:40:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C4F685D.4050600@pp.dyndns.biz> References: <4C4F685D.4050600@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:40:04 -0700 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: =?UTF-8?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=C3=B6m?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading Apache fails - I don't understand why, exactly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:40:05 -0000 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 16:14, Morgan Wesstr=C3=B6m wrote: > On 2010-07-27 23:47, Kurt Buff wrote: >> Trying to do the following on a couple of machines: >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0# portupgrade apache-2.2.14_5 >> > >> >> I've grepped through the port and haven't found anything that mentions t= his. >> >> Anyone got a clue for me? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kurt > > Check /usr/ports/UPDATING. The entry from 20100518. > > Regards > Morgan Got it. Thank you. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 00:00:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602841065673 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:00:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290C98FC13 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:00:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so5209156iwn.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:00:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bUfV8UFSTUwCqGy+IVS0XblCfMJ37cR1O09hrgKMAV0=; b=ehFNoyRiBpRG1DvRu7cmN+Csw5iXxyoxmbhHRSHsyomx55NeSZMn6Zrtr0+Kcu7ftr xDMYAZzCskWKFsDOqt7h2h42NSi0oqbwhzLu2IvLpagkHl/kqZPce1eVDKGE/kDWlvUp WmG3mXFzx4WjL+o2bo1/XQOQGsGO2oDUbmU1k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=JG31O/anfJy2yMasEzbCfdS0yYLRVfqFWmDH1SJS666xYVTTJC4tLOgWVCChVnjpc+ JooK2dtd8KrduHzpH1yE9NX1H8p+sIUNpQx4MRq7K5ueKh+jEjrUk5zcVC7PMCc0O/nB hzYCBAONAKHFwTHKJOuvDcqZQZXhzEgqhT4oo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.77.155 with SMTP id g27mr10081887ibk.195.1280275234228; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.196.152 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:00:34 -0700 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: =?UTF-8?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=C3=B6m?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading Apache fails - Solved X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:00:35 -0000 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 16:14, Morgan Wesstr=C3=B6m wrote: > On 2010-07-27 23:47, Kurt Buff wrote: >> Trying to do the following on a couple of machines: >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0# portupgrade apache-2.2.14_5 >> > >> >> I've grepped through the port and haven't found anything that mentions t= his. >> >> Anyone got a clue for me? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kurt > > Check /usr/ports/UPDATING. The entry from 20100518. > > Regards > Morgan > I had to pkg_delete both apache22 and apr1, pkgdb -F, then reinstall apache22, but all is well now. Thank you again, Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 00:40:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E0C1065673 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:40:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FDF8FC0A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:40:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 68-189-245-235.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.245.235] helo=cube.entropy.prv) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Oduh6-000Pdn-AL; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:40:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by cube.entropy.prv (Postfix) with ESMTP id E646D430081C; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:40:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C4F7C72.9020502@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:40:18 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grant Peel References: <10E4650A2BFB426791D24BE51450BEC0@GRANTPC> In-Reply-To: <10E4650A2BFB426791D24BE51450BEC0@GRANTPC> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why am I getting mail rejects? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:40:31 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Grant Peel wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I asked this a few days ago, and did not get a response. > > I have this in my /etc/periodic.conf: > > constellation# more periodic.conf > # 460.status-mail-rejects > daily_status_mail_rejects_enable="NO" # Check mail rejects > daily_status_mail_rejects_logs=0 # How many logs > to check > daily_status_mail_rejects_shorten="NO" # Shorten output > > And have chnaged this in my /etc/defaults/periodic.conf: > > # 460.status-mail-rejects > daily_status_mail_rejects_enable="NO" # Check mail > rejects > daily_status_mail_rejects_logs=3 # How many logs to > check > daily_status_mail_rejects_shorten="NO" # Shorten output > > And am still getting all the reject mail data showing in my daily periodic > output. > > I am using FreeBSD 8.0 p#3 > The mta is Exim 4.69_4 built from ports. > > What am I doing incorrectly? Why am I still getting all the mail reject log > lines in my daily periodic output? > > -Grant Hi Grant, Please capture the output of the following command and post it somewhere for viewing. This will display all of the shell commands executed by the periodic script, and it may help someone here troubleshoot the problem. sh -x /etc/periodic/daily/460.status-mail-rejects Regards, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFMT3xy0sRouByUApARAq35AJ9Jscb9hHedbTiu3MXimj3UIiS3uQCcCOmB xxU/f3r6jvqwZ51ji/jo4k0= =qwGv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 01:45:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6791E1065674 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:45:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 33FE18FC08 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:45:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20502 invoked by uid 0); 28 Jul 2010 01:45:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2010 01:45:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=BTK+C/NWVca4ajw97vddiWC+D/Vg3EUchyh4xLZHpSYnAYXxsirhRG/3rbIjXT518oqxce7bpuuyywYkaCVHN3PPfhu7cczpJ7soJOUTuWS0faL6MIm7TSUSLaK7hzFo; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Odvi1-0000dC-Cc for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:45:26 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:43:27 -0600 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:43:27 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20100728014327.GA95865@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20100724062446.GD78741@guilt.hydra> <1E1FB8AF2B3AD9F567716164@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727002048.GB91286@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:45:27 -0000 --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 01:38:38PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: >=20 > I made no value judgments about you. Bullshit. You must be a troll, the way you lie to me about what you just said -- even in the same paragraph as that lie. >=20 > At a minimum, get some help for the anger issues. You are probably not a psychologist. If you are, you should have your degree revoked for trying to diagnose people over the Internet based on a minor flame war. Get off your high horse. It's not doing you any good. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxPiz8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXAYgCgmUEtaME/ylabBsw+/EbaWHas he8AoJu6yZ1cpf+YZIlI0kR+E4DEMwjm =GnpT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 02:18:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A771065675 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 02:18:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89D58FC08 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 02:18:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so4537803wyj.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:18:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=e/LLadTgURZT7d0B/37I8uLHqSLIloUlnwV/0EvDXKY=; b=ol+Xl5IdHuvfnHgRVWmG/z4Zuu4LYmHn1lMfU+nXIDirAJrjt8ExdftWpdaOvEWoEd bqKhwgjxoKt3hD6kRDL9hcO44hMQuoKxuoByFdOYlNSw6LJTxzj+/ezRa1fW+iD/R9df aBYXboS6ukwP5jAz4s+Om46iz+pBHKqrKmFQE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Raz6t7CVL1F213uzIwfNgduazjvkg9czdEC3VHJSjA3o0VeyLgzJoPN+WFsRxIMJGO AtEheM9QJOyEhZez/I84lHV1rYBOIivF9yUf5zlscXUlN2EiqDNf6zrX9LY2xNtC72uE CBKbwDhpmronWIswHRUHewaUrprjUe00mNUbc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.144.4 with SMTP id x4mr9884512wbu.59.1280283521215; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.168.207 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:18:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201007271531.12641.trsantos1@gmail.com> References: <201007271531.12641.trsantos1@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:18:41 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Thiago Rodrigues Santos Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: autologin KDE, 8-1-RELEASE-amd64 not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 02:18:43 -0000 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Thiago Rodrigues Santos wrote: > Em Ter=E7a-feira 27 Julho 2010, =E0s 14:58:33, Antonio Olivares escreveu: >> Dear folks, >> >> I am not sure why, but autologin is not working, I get authentication >> errors :( >> >> I setup KDE as the desktop using >> >> echo 'exec /usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde4' > ~/.xinitrc >> >> echo 'local_startup=3D"${local_startup} /usr/local/kde4/etc/rc.d"' >> >> /etc/rc.conf echo 'kdm4_enable=3D"YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf >> >> and logging in as root and using the System Settings, I chose >> autologin as myself(regular user, member of wheel/operator groups(if >> it is important)) =A0 =A0 but I get authentication error :( >> >> I try to login as root, but root is not allowed exept if I start in >> console mode, i,e, comment out the lines in /etc/rc.conf and I make >> changes, but cannot get autologin to work. >> >> I know that autologin is discouraged, but this is a home computer and >> no other person uses it execpt me, how should I fix it? >> >> Thank you for advice/suggestions/comments. >> >> Regards, >> >> Antonio >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Hello. If you don't have the /etc/pam.d/kde-np file, you need to create i= t > with the following content: > > auth =A0 =A0 =A0 required =A0 =A0 pam_permit.so > account =A0 =A0required =A0 =A0 pam_nologin.so > account =A0 =A0required =A0 =A0 pam_unix.so > session =A0 =A0required =A0 =A0 pam_permit.so > > -- > Thiago Rodrigues Santos > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > Thank you very much Thiago. Creating the file and restarting worked :) Now, I will try to compile some programs like mplayer. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 04:13:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137931065672 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:13:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88328FC0A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:13:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o6S4DtLE037402 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:13:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o6S4DtRO037401; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA26828; Tue, 27 Jul 10 21:08:05 PDT Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:08:05 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: pukruppa@googlemail.com Message-Id: <4c4fad25.j6MF2niZRCtd+pMX%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:13:56 -0000 "Kruppa, Peter Ulrich" wrote: > Pan (god of the shepherds) ... partially resembles a goat. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 04:48:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943AB1065677 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:48:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfl@robinlea.com) Received: from 28amen.org (28amen.org [204.3.153.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CECB8FC15 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:48:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.33] ([180.180.54.94]) (authenticated bits=0) by 28amen.org (8.14.4/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o6S4mGmS047356; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:48:18 GMT Message-ID: <4C4FB68A.7050002@robinlea.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:48:10 +0700 From: John Francis Lee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark S , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100727224501.GA25627@mail19l.g19.rapidsite.net> In-Reply-To: <20100727224501.GA25627@mail19l.g19.rapidsite.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: [IDS-12680263] 28amen.org : trying to portinstall ffmpeg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:48:21 -0000 I am posting this to both viaverio and the freeBSD lists because the one suggests I get help from the other. On 07/28/2010 09:45 AM, Mark S wrote: > Hello John, > > > Thank you for contacting Verio Technical Support. > > Unfortunately, we really have no expertise with ffmpeg as it's not > software that Verio provides. The mailing lists are really the best > place to get help. One thing you might try is to uninstall ffmpeg by > running a "make deinstall" from the port's directory and then rebuild > it now that you apparently have a good copy of xz. I've done that,,, several times. I thought I had mentioned it... sorry. > > As a last resort you could simply download a binary copy of ffmpeg > for FreeBSD 6.3 from ftp.freebsd.org. FreeBSD pkgs are installed with > "pkg_add packagename.tgz". Since you've already built the bulk of > dependencies from ports you might run into incompatibilities with > this method. What about sudo portupgrade -faP ? Do you see a downside there? I'm thinking that since viaverio has apparently not maintained the port systems on its FreeBSD v6.3 servers that they may be in a state inconsistent with the port systems on which other ports were created. My first attempt to install ffmpog was sudo portinstall ffmpeg which downloaded a lot of code and compiled it. Maybe some was incompatible with code already on my server? Maybe running an upgrade of the entire ports system on my server will fix my problem? It'll take a while, I'm sure, but I'm wasting time right now trying to get ffmpeg installed. Of course, I don't want to break any(every)thing else on the system! So my question is... what do you think of sudo portupgrade -faP ? Can it hurt? Do you think it might help? If I cannot do that I guess I will go to the FreeBSD archives and try to find a binary of the ffmpeg program... Thanks for taking the time to help me. > > As always, please let us know if there are any other questions or > concerns that we can assist you with. > > For additional support, you can also refer to our FAQ: > > http://support.verio.com/ > > > Regards, > > Mark S. Verio Technical Support II email: support@veriohosting.com > Toll Free: 866-688-8374, Options 3, 2 Local/Int'l: 801-437-0210 > > ==== Excerpt from your message received 7/27/2010 19:43:17 MDT ==== >> Hello Mark S, >> >> Thanks for helping out! >> >> I had had a look at the manpage for portupgrade and saw a reference >> to >> >> pkgdb -F >> >> So I ran that I and noticed a duplicated origin for archivers/xz : >> >> Duplicated origin: archivers/xz - lzmautils-4.32.7 xz-4.999.9_1 >> >> and so unregistered lzmautils-4.32.7 >> >> then >> >> cd /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg sudo make deinstall sudo make install >> >> but ffmpeg still dumped core. >> >> This morning I ran >> >> [jfl@28amen ~/www/robinlea.com]$ pkg_info -Ix xz xz-4.999.9_1 >> LZMA compression and decompression tools >> >> I also ran >> >> [jfl@28amen /ports/archivers/xz]$ sudo pkgdb -F ---> Checking the >> package registry database Stale origin: 'misc/ldconfig_compat': >> perhaps moved or obsoleted. -> The port 'misc/ldconfig_compat' was >> removed on 2010-05-14 because: "Supported releases don't need the >> port anymore" -> Hint: ldconfig_compat-1.0_8 is required by the >> following package(s): p5-DBD-mysql50-3.0006 mysql-scripts-5.0.24 >> mysql-server-5.0.24 squid-2.6.12 mysql-client-5.0.24 -> Hint: >> checking for overwritten files... -> No files installed by >> ldconfig_compat-1.0_8 have been overwritten by other packages. >> Deinstall ldconfig_compat-1.0_8 ? [no] Duplicated origin: >> textproc/p5-XML-LibXML - p5-XML-LibXML-1.69,1 >> p5-XML-LibXML-Common-0.13 Unregister any of them? [no] Duplicated >> origin: lang/python25 - python25-2.5.2_2 python25-2.5.4_1 >> Unregister any of them? [no] [jfl@28amen /ports/archivers/xz]$ >> >> I ran >> >> sudo portupgrade xz, and sudo portupgrade ffmpeg >> >> The latter upgraded the port from 0.6_1,1 to 0.6_2,1 >> >> [jfl@28amen ~/www/robinlea.com]$ pkg_info -Ix ffmpeg ffmpeg-0.6_2,1 >> Realtime audio/video encoder/converter and streaming server >> >> But >> >> [jfl@28amen ~/www/robinlea.com]$ ffmpeg -loglevel debug -i >> introduction.wav ... > -- "This message may have been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA and/or the present government of Thailand without notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or recipient." John Francis Lee 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 05:14:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDD0106566C for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 05:14:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [74.1.12.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC0A8FC0C for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 05:14:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18088 invoked by uid 1008); 28 Jul 2010 06:09:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@74.1.12.115) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 28 Jul 2010 06:09:41 -0000 Message-ID: <4C4FB661.5040903@el.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:47:29 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Macintosh/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: vmware and freebsd 8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 05:14:11 -0000 hi all... messing around with vmware and fbsd 8... has anybody used vmware esxi 4 to put a bunch of fbsd machines on it? i also installed the vmsphere client (they call it) which is pretty nice interface to interact with the virtual machines but apparently doesn't know much on how to install vmware tools on a bsd guest. so the question is which vmware tools should i get for the fbsd 8 guests to go with the esxi 4.1. in the ports there are vmware-tools6, 5, 4, 3. tried six. it wants some disk. there is also the open-vmware-tools. is that open one better to play with the esxi 4.1 an the vmsphere thing? also is there anything better than vmware for virtualization that plays nice and with fbsd? thanks... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 05:23:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0551065674 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 05:23:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from debackerl@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B37F8FC16 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 05:23:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so1041381fxm.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:23:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=vTfao7jJZxdGAfaOnvORgw/2nhLAIcymplYQtc637MQ=; b=h7CQkbyWCNnhWDYX6HkzQSPchOaz6EPi8ITlMR0sOfsie1NNAFDeRKR+IB5VjfdP4M Cbn3RAXLOIQ5VhnOsbsjWplHNmNVnXAyplR0HX4BMjJ1WCL1XDx2+qyw2kr9Lru4q9y7 ZM++F3MPLHw10w3rryinoQ2xfhvmXqTQcqByc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=nkbkjivq2JRxACLf+QsyHk5X2Sb8JqKDBS2iaZL5H3W/pvsyJqEf0PHaaLR2wGkrx3 gQ/elEVGXMwsimhC9dEgzsH+U77yATfk9HozDQtOnOUyhZIMvPnS9rIRtnGZBhRwgaZ8 R77621QcvObJAh3oGBIuKZZHwADjWIub/EbmU= Received: by 10.223.117.194 with SMTP id s2mr9169931faq.57.1280294614995; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:23:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.115.193 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:23:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Debacker Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:23:14 +0200 Message-ID: To: Adam Vande More Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Andrew Gould , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real-Time Video Recording (ionice equivalent) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 05:23:36 -0000 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Debacker wrote: > >> Of course, just like you could put real-time processes in one CPU, and >> normal processes on another to avoid implement complex algorithms. >> While your solution is pragmatic, I would like to know if there are >> "clean" >> ways to do it. If not, this would be a documented use case to why would >> anyone actually need an I/O scheduler. >> > > First, top-posting on this list is considered rude. Please don't do that. > Sorry, I didn't want to hurt anyone, I just didn't know the traditions of this mailing-list, I'll be careful from now on. If you're running 8.1, try "man gsched", it's new and haven't tried it. > Excellent! I can use 8.1, it's for a new setup. > Other than that, the traditional way would be to give higher priority to > the process that needs it. It's the poor man's io scheduler, but it > generally does work well. > > If you have lots of concurrent io and are running a UFS file-system, > consider running gjournal as it scales those requests better. > > Also if you're hardware supports it, NCQ is available via the ahci and a > few other modules. It will make your requests more efficient. > Thank you for your tips. I'm happy that I will be able to use FreeBSD for this job. Laurent Debacker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 05:53:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E91106566B for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 05:53:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 685948FC15 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 05:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so4268625bwz.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:53:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=EfWUKPTm1YpJVSwIR+DYx/oC06egNIu4f27+a+xLf9g=; b=m1YnG/BJK8V5wsQe12IxxQy1ryL8zohWWuSUYgZUL9+KODPl26FJoZ6A5eUX8gMOW9 Tjyo+c0x5Su84W+UHpHnl8/cYNJddOvFC6iNUw8/BrQqvG7I82BbDQ95MIvDRazhLo8f /bbmEdMj2iUll0zBAZ9CqtAms+nWQ5Iaw/VfY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=gN1m9or+67az4xPcdcTBjEdf7L/8nkUWqiTk2leFVhxOQX14zNKHQDKhSF8VI1smDI 5zFmeuRLAIgLwNPfoVc4+vhaAnXz1GBQ+5dBfOVI7TRkuoPRouS5P8i0cvcyGr4iRfjp j/0luXJPLpMtYPXrrxSHAkdX6tmB2vM5PPq9k= Received: by 10.204.73.211 with SMTP id r19mr7293838bkj.131.1280296431260; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:53:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.48.76 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:53:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Zbigniew Szalbot Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:53:35 +0200 Message-ID: To: Kurt Buff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=C3=B6m?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading Apache fails - Solved X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 05:53:52 -0000 Hello, > I had to pkg_delete both apache22 and apr1, pkgdb -F, then reinstall > apache22, but all is well now. I followed the original suggestions from UPDATING 1. pkg_delete -f apache-2.\* 2. portupgrade -f -o devel/apr1 devel/apr 3. portinstall www/apache22 However, I get the following then: checking for APR... configure: error: the --with-apr parameter is incorrect. It must specify an install prefix, a build directory, or an apr-config file. ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. Please report the problem to apache@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach the "/usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.16/config.log" including the output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portinstall20100728-30282-trybeq-0 env make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! www/apache22 (configure error) When I check pkg_info -Ix apr, I get: pkg_info -Ix apr apr-ipv6-devrandom-gdbm-db42-mysql50-1.4.2.1.3.9_1 Apache Portability Library xf86dgaproto-2.0.3 XFree86-DGA extension headers xineramaproto-1.1.2 Xinerama extension headers Do you think I should delete the apr port before attempting to install apache again? Thank you! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.slowo.pl www.fairtrade.net.pl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 06:12:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E096E1065675 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:12:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rrborg@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5388FC18 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:12:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20195 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2010 05:45:53 -0000 Received: from c-67-187-169-218.hsd1.ca.comcast.net (HELO [192.168.1.141]) (rrborg@[67.187.169.218]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 28 Jul 2010 05:45:53 -0000 Message-ID: <4C4FC41B.6040303@speakeasy.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:46:03 -0700 From: Rocky Borg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C4FB661.5040903@el.net> In-Reply-To: <4C4FB661.5040903@el.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: vmware and freebsd 8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:12:35 -0000 I haven't used vmware so I can't say if it's better but it didn't take me long to get freebsd up and running with virtualbox. Just follow the instructions at http://wiki.freebsd.org/VirtualBox You do have to install /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions/ on the guest. I got FreeBSD 8.1 and PC-BSD 8.1 both up and running on it. I'm having some sound issues but other than that it works great, in fullscreen mode you can't even tell it's running as a guest on a host machine. On 7/27/2010 9:47 PM, kalin m wrote: > > hi all... > > messing around with vmware and fbsd 8... > > has anybody used vmware esxi 4 to put a bunch of fbsd machines on it? > i also installed the vmsphere client (they call it) which is pretty > nice interface to interact with the virtual machines but apparently > doesn't know much on how to install vmware tools on a bsd guest. > > so the question is which vmware tools should i get for the fbsd 8 > guests to go with the esxi 4.1. in the ports there are vmware-tools6, > 5, 4, 3. tried six. it wants some disk. there is also the > open-vmware-tools. is that open one better to play with the esxi 4.1 > an the vmsphere thing? > > also is there anything better than vmware for virtualization that > plays nice and with fbsd? > > thanks... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 06:56:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7391065677 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:56:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6598FC2A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:56:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.143] (helo=smtp12.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oe0ZM-00023F-8I for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:56:48 +0200 Received: from [84.25.59.18] (helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp12.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oe0Z3-0002zx-H1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:56:29 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D62FE39887 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:56:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C4FD49B.3070201@boosten.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:56:27 +0200 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Oe0Z3-0002zx-H1 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=0.5, vereist 5, BAYES_50 0.00, CM_META_TB_NOARR 0.50, SPF_PASS -0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Upgrading Apache fails - Solved X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:56:52 -0000 On 28-7-2010 7:53, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hello, > >> I had to pkg_delete both apache22 and apr1, pkgdb -F, then reinstall >> apache22, but all is well now. > > I followed the original suggestions from UPDATING > > 1. pkg_delete -f apache-2.\* > 2. portupgrade -f -o devel/apr1 devel/apr > 3. portinstall www/apache22 > > However, I get the following then: > > checking for APR... configure: error: the --with-apr parameter is > incorrect. It must specify an install prefix, a build directory, or an > apr-config file. > ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. > Please report the problem to apache@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach the > "/usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.16/config.log" including the output > of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provide > an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls > /var/db/pkg`). > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22. > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > /tmp/portinstall20100728-30282-trybeq-0 env make > ** Fix the problem and try again. > ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) > ! www/apache22 (configure error) > > When I check pkg_info -Ix apr, I get: > > pkg_info -Ix apr > apr-ipv6-devrandom-gdbm-db42-mysql50-1.4.2.1.3.9_1 Apache Portability Library > xf86dgaproto-2.0.3 XFree86-DGA extension headers > xineramaproto-1.1.2 Xinerama extension headers > > Do you think I should delete the apr port before attempting to install > apache again? > It has been a while back, but IIRC I had to 'make config' in the apr port to enable ldap (because I'm using that) to be able to recompile apr/apache. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 07:04:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8BF1065676 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7098FC16 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:04:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so4293143bwz.13 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:04:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=c68gDQwPtF1seIBkjdIIBblrzo1RToIHK+GeT4U7gps=; b=HuxGKgfjrWmB/+0fPAswkySeg+4eZYgS0DvtMu4oNNpCzvntvbz4OTHRfSW7ge0gEv DpsRHErsvQjzVVIUAwrmg6wSGwPikLEHPu+fxU/rZ9Yg40Ysegp1dHuVms8CAr5iPJ/e /sOLBw6TqPiOYikZmyzm0Z0BqQIbJlu9riHQI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=kwOVHeNVFCoFZU40gXh6HSUMzznAxxHN5hoChihAcOHCmVC6tXJkCBo2Sr+Lkx0PeO JEOKsZj0J0YUWKRGvbxN7KFgGcr0Kh6I1tx+7rnRkmgFn2SxiugC4h3RPN6Sbye9m14w 0Rnko22DL0HS6k0mfYuEALT2lC4EzcnfqEQhM= Received: by 10.204.117.12 with SMTP id o12mr120966bkq.88.1280300691252; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:04:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.48.76 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:04:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Zbigniew Szalbot Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:04:36 +0200 Message-ID: To: Kurt Buff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=C3=B6m?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading Apache fails - Solved X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:04:52 -0000 Hello, > When I check pkg_info -Ix apr, I get: > > pkg_info -Ix apr > apr-ipv6-devrandom-gdbm-db42-mysql50-1.4.2.1.3.9_1 Apache Portability Library Acutally I used 1. pkg_delete apr-ipv6-devrandom-gdbm-db42-mysql50-1.4.2.1.3.9_1 2. pkgdb -F 3. portinstall apache All working now. :) -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.slowo.pl www.fairtrade.net.pl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 07:18:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9ED106566B for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:18:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asimex@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB2CF8FC0A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2007 invoked by uid 0); 28 Jul 2010 06:52:02 -0000 Received: from 212.118.142.74 by www022.gmx.net with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:52:02 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:52:01 +0200 From: "Andreas Feid" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100728065201.234030@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: To: krad , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Authenticated: #138425 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18dDfFVGfYdia+o8sWzdtp/V94DshEznloD4fKIZ3 fUPI8aJEZZlEwjwBUvkc9dkDi35aL7ebKYmg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: put6eCARRkkNbs1mcWRqSIdudWkvKNM6 X-FuHaFi: 0.51000000000000001 Cc: Subject: Re: possible NFS lockups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:18:44 -0000 I have a few remarks and questions; what happens when the system is in this state? Your access to the mount fails but is restored after a while, or do you need to remount, under normal conditions the access should be restored automaticlly. The error message per se is indicating a busy server and should clear up after a while, as you have seen. How frequent do you see the error, once per hour, day? If you say filer, I assume you are talking about a Netapp filer, it might be worth taking a perfstat when the error happens, and when the condition exists. I think dtrace will not really help since this seems a server issue to me. As the filer is used to store mails, I assume we are talking about qmail or similiar environment with a huge number of small files, I would like to know how the directory structure looks on the filer. If possible get a perfstat and provide the directory structure offline to me and I will have a look. -Andreas -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:55:42 +0100 > Von: krad > An: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions > Betreff: Re: possible NFS lockups > On 27 July 2010 16:29, krad wrote: > > > I have a production mail system with an nfs backend. Every now and again > we > > see the nfs die on a particular head end. However it doesn't die across > all > > the nodes. This suggests to me there isnt an issue with the filer itself > and > > the stats from the filer concur with that. > > > > The symptoms are lines like this appearing in dmesg > > > > nfs server 10.44.17.138:/vol/vol1/mail: not responding > > nfs server 10.44.17.138:/vol/vol1/mail: is alive again > > > > trussing df it seems to hang on getfsstat, this is presumably when it > tries > > the nfs mounts > > > > eg > > > > __sysctl(0xbfbfe224,0x2,0xbfbfe22c,0xbfbfe230,0x0,0x0) = 0 (0x0) > > mmap(0x0,1048576,PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANON,-1,0x0) = > > 1746583552 (0x681ac000) > > mmap(0x682ac000,344064,PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANON,-1,0x0) > = > > 1747632128 (0x682ac000) > > munmap(0x681ac000,344064) = 0 (0x0) > > getfsstat(0x68201000,0x1270,0x2,0xbfbfe960,0xbfbfe95c,0x1) = 9 (0x9) > > > > > > I have played with mount options a fair bit but they dont make much > > difference. This is what they are set to at present > > > > 10.44.17.138:/vol/vol1/mail /mail/0 nfs > > rw,noatime,tcp,acdirmax=320,acdirmin=180,acregmax=320,acregmin=180 0 > 0 > > > > When this locking is occuring I find that if I do a show mount or mount > > 10.44.17.138:/vol/vol1/mail again under another mount point I can access > > it fine. > > > > One thing I have just noticed is that lockd and statd always seem to > have > > died when this happens. Restarting does not help > > > > > > I find all this a bit perplexing. Can anyone offer any help into why > this > > might be happening. I have dtrace compliled into the kernel if that > could > > help with debugging > > > > sorry i missed a bit of critical info > > # uname -a > FreeBSD X 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #2: Mon Jul 26 16:10:19 BST 2010 > root@mk-pimap-7.b2b.uk.tiscali.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DTRACE i > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 07:43:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6BB1065675 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corsmith@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71F18FC15 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:43:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so4310557bwz.13 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:43:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Z0kBq2Aam7maVI9nl2Tr3hSG5h5wRrFZKPDE3A3/+aU=; b=VhHuwgvuT84l65h0uw37LGUuVaTAEWNPjpsVc5EvUSczJfAwHnmulswSB5FnV6L9DV Ou6R0VlcBnz9y/8Ebo2lLZ7KNoQ5E75LUN+1TZxDYiQFW3skfGwOcPniS8u/qNF5OiqF goVKq6mvcjKxv9kv2tGf7KrTZPJR+lhZDq4VI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=L4GdtZFxS3KtZN2739ZnrP4cb3eBYzPAUmiN/LgskAkcm2XEfmogGwPL1bBOk9ojdI D9pqi/bSLLL4yNGCwd4Tw8KSkQFYanlwFEbTq9LEDFTOHGhA3kOqP5MY0I3ZMykdpyFE IFRxneiysqjk3sCeUGRpng1xeH2Md9ORqKzVk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.128.130 with SMTP id k2mr5377767bks.159.1280301473914; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.163.17 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 03:17:53 -0400 Message-ID: From: Corey Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: gmultipath woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:43:57 -0000 Has anyone tried gmultipath under 8.1-RELEASE/amd64 yet? This is my first attempt at multipathing so it is possible I'm doing something wrong but anyways: # uname -a FreeBSD host 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Jul 19 02:36:49 UTC 2010 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 # dmesg | egrep '^(isp|da1|da2)' isp0: port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xdf4f8000-0xdf4fbfff irq 38 at device 0.0 on pci6 isp1: port 0xdc00-0xdcff mem 0xdf4fc000-0xdf4fffff irq 45 at device 0.1 on pci6 da1 at isp0 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device da1: 400.000MB/s transfers da1: Command Queueing enabled da1: 2097152MB (4294967296 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 267349C) da2 at isp1 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device da2: 400.000MB/s transfers da2: Command Queueing enabled da2: 2097152MB (4294967296 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 267349C) # camcontrol devlist at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da0) at scbus0 target 8 lun 0 (pass1,ses0) at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (pass2,da1) at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (pass3,da2) # camcontrol inquiry da1 -S 870405180007 # camcontrol inquiry da2 -S 870405180007 # gmultipath label -v FRED /dev/da1 /dev/da2 gmultipath: Unknown verb add # gmultipath status Name Status Components multipath/FRED N/A da1 # gmultipath list Geom name: FRED Providers: 1. Name: multipath/FRED Mediasize: 2199023255040 (2.0T) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 Consumers: 1. Name: da1 Mediasize: 2199023255552 (2.0T) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 ------ EOT ------ I'm wondering what is going on with the "Unknown verb add" and why is it only listing da1 in the components? Does the disk need to be in a particular state (unpartitioned, glabel, etc...) or does it not matter? -Corey Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 09:09:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C84106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:09:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonio@antonioshome.net) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDEBE8FC0A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:09:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwa36 with SMTP id 36so69145wwa.31 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 02:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.142.84 with SMTP id p20mr10201807wbu.182.1280308154819; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 02:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from antonio.localnet (247.pool85-49-219.dynamic.orange.es [85.49.219.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i25sm5135099wbi.16.2010.07.28.02.09.13 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Jul 2010 02:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C4FF35A.3010407@antonioshome.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:07:38 +0200 From: Antonio Vieiro User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100630 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Compiling vim with gnome, anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:09:16 -0000 Hi all, I'm trying to comile /usr/ports/editors/vim with gnome support. To show the options I use make -DWITH_VIM_OPTIONS config and I select "gnome" in a dialog that is shown. After that I issue a make -DWITH_VIM_OPTIONS But vim does not compile with gnome libraries. Anyone has an idea on why is this so? Is this port broken or something? Should I report it? Thanks, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 09:55:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB00106567A; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:55:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8A78FC12; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:55:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman.lon.namesco.net (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6S9tm04001454 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:55:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C4FFEA3.7060307@unsane.co.uk> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:55:47 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, geom@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: gmultipath woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:55:52 -0000 On 28/07/2010 08:17, Corey Smith wrote: > Has anyone tried gmultipath under 8.1-RELEASE/amd64 yet? This is my > first attempt at multipathing so it is possible I'm doing something > wrong but anyways: > > # uname -a > FreeBSD host 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Jul 19 02:36:49 > UTC 2010 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > amd64 > > # dmesg | egrep '^(isp|da1|da2)' > isp0: port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem > 0xdf4f8000-0xdf4fbfff irq 38 at device 0.0 on pci6 > isp1: port 0xdc00-0xdcff mem > 0xdf4fc000-0xdf4fffff irq 45 at device 0.1 on pci6 > da1 at isp0 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 > da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device > da1: 400.000MB/s transfers > da1: Command Queueing enabled > da1: 2097152MB (4294967296 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 267349C) > da2 at isp1 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 > da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device > da2: 400.000MB/s transfers > da2: Command Queueing enabled > da2: 2097152MB (4294967296 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 267349C) > > # camcontrol devlist > at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da0) > at scbus0 target 8 lun 0 (pass1,ses0) > at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (pass2,da1) > at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (pass3,da2) > > # camcontrol inquiry da1 -S > 870405180007 > # camcontrol inquiry da2 -S > 870405180007 > > # gmultipath label -v FRED /dev/da1 /dev/da2 > gmultipath: Unknown verb add > > # gmultipath status > Name Status Components > multipath/FRED N/A da1 > > # gmultipath list > Geom name: FRED > Providers: > 1. Name: multipath/FRED > Mediasize: 2199023255040 (2.0T) > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r0w0e0 > Consumers: > 1. Name: da1 > Mediasize: 2199023255552 (2.0T) > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r0w0e0 > > ------ EOT ------ > > I'm wondering what is going on with the "Unknown verb add" and why is > it only listing da1 in the components? Does the disk need to be in a > particular state (unpartitioned, glabel, etc...) or does it not > I dont have any storage with multiple paths handy other than creating md devices, however doing that as you have (and as the manpage says) gives the same results. [root@ostracod /mnt]# mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /scratch/test.dsk -u 12 [root@ostracod /mnt]# mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /scratch/test.dsk -u 13 [root@ostracod /mnt]# sysctl kern.geom.multipath.debug=1 kern.geom.multipath.debug: 1 -> 1 [root@ostracod /mnt]# gmultipath label -v TEST /dev/md12 /dev/md13 gmultipath: Unknown verb add [root@ostracod /mnt]# gmultipath list Geom name: TEST Providers: 1. Name: multipath/TEST Mediasize: 52428288 (50M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 Consumers: 1. Name: md12 Mediasize: 52428800 (50M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 [root@ostracod /mnt]# gmultipath status Name Status Components multipath/TEST N/A md12 However doing echo 1 > /dev/md13 made geom re-taste the device so I get [root@ostracod /mnt]# gmultipath list Geom name: TEST Providers: 1. Name: multipath/TEST Mediasize: 52428288 (50M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 Consumers: 1. Name: md12 Mediasize: 52428800 (50M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 2. Name: md13 Mediasize: 52428800 (50M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 Also doing mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /scratch/test.dsk -u 12 gmultipath load gmultipath label -v FRED /dev/md12 mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /scratch/test.dsk -u 13 gave me Jul 28 10:32:43 ostracod kernel: md12 is not MULTIPATH Jul 28 10:32:43 ostracod kernel: MULTIPATH: FRED/12a41222-9a2b-11df-aa80-00012e273257 Jul 28 10:32:43 ostracod kernel: GEOM_MULTIPATH: adding md12 to FRED/12a41222-9a2b-11df-aa80-00012e273257 Jul 28 10:32:43 ostracod kernel: GEOM_MULTIPATH: md12 now active path in FRED Jul 28 10:32:43 ostracod kernel: multipath/FRED is not MULTIPATH Jul 28 10:33:37 ostracod kernel: MULTIPATH: FRED/12a41222-9a2b-11df-aa80-00012e273257 Jul 28 10:33:37 ostracod kernel: GEOM_MULTIPATH: adding md13 to FRED/12a41222-9a2b-11df-aa80-00012e273257 [root@ostracod /mnt]# gmultipath list Geom name: FRED Providers: 1. Name: multipath/FRED Mediasize: 52428288 (50M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 Consumers: 1. Name: md12 Mediasize: 52428800 (50M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 2. Name: md13 Mediasize: 52428800 (50M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 [root@ostracod /mnt]# gpart create -s gpt multipath/FRED multipath/FRED created [root@ostracod /mnt]# gpart add -s 10M -t freebsd-ufs multipath/FRED multipath/FREDp1 added [root@ostracod /mnt]# newfs /dev/multipath/FREDp1 /dev/multipath/FREDp1: 10.0MB (20480 sectors) block size 16384, fragment size 2048 using 4 cylinder groups of 2.52MB, 161 blks, 384 inodes. super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: 160, 5312, 10464, 15616 [root@ostracod /mnt]# mount /dev/multipath/FREDp1 /mnt/foo/ [root@ostracod /mnt] so it all seems to works but not as expected/documented. Also I get these various errors in /var/log/messages Jul 28 10:41:17 ostracod kernel: GEOM: md13: the secondary GPT table is corrupt or invalid. Jul 28 10:41:17 ostracod kernel: GEOM: md13: using the primary only -- recovery suggested. Jul 28 10:41:17 ostracod kernel: GEOM: md12: the secondary GPT table is corrupt or invalid. Jul 28 10:41:17 ostracod kernel: GEOM: md12: using the primary only -- recovery suggested. Jul 28 10:41:17 ostracod kernel: multipath/FRED is not MULTIPATH Jul 28 10:42:00 ostracod kernel: multipath/FREDp1 is not MULTIPATH Jul 28 10:42:00 ostracod kernel: multipath/FRED is not MULTIPATH Jul 28 10:42:00 ostracod kernel: gptid/5ed86f82-9a2c-11df-aa80-00012e273257 is not MULTIPATH Jul 28 10:42:14 ostracod kernel: GEOM: md13: the secondary GPT table is corrupt or invalid. Jul 28 10:42:14 ostracod kernel: GEOM: md13: using the primary only -- recovery suggested. Jul 28 10:42:14 ostracod kernel: GEOM: md12: the secondary GPT table is corrupt or invalid. Jul 28 10:42:14 ostracod kernel: GEOM: md12: using the primary only -- recovery suggested. Jul 28 10:42:14 ostracod kernel: multipath/FRED is not MULTIPATH Jul 28 10:42:14 ostracod kernel: multipath/FREDp1 is not MULTIPATH Jul 28 10:42:14 ostracod kernel: md13p1 is not MULTIPATH Jul 28 10:42:14 ostracod kernel: md12p1 is not MULTIPATH Jul 28 10:42:14 ostracod kernel: ufsid/4c4ffb754e3cdb5c is not MULTIPATH Jul 28 10:42:14 ostracod kernel: gptid/5ed86f82-9a2c-11df-aa80-00012e273257 is not MULTIPATH so I'd say that gmultipath needs some attention, and would guess using gpt with geom_multipath isnt a great idea I'd file a pr if I were you. I'm cross posting to geom@ in case I'm being a muppet somewhere though. Vince > matter? > > -Corey Smith > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 10:47:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C331065673 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:47:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from nomoremozzie.com (nomoremozzie.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A488FC08 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:47:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([180.129.0.181]) (authenticated bits=0) by nomoremozzie.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o6SAlDko004945; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:47:14 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:47:12 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-STABLE; KDE/4.4.5; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201007281847.13397.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: Michael Doyle Subject: Re: Upgrade 6.4-stable to 7.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:47:20 -0000 Hi, I did a source upgrade on one box from 6.4 to 7.2 or 7.3 without any problems. I later did a source upgrade to 8.0 on the same machine just to find out that USB has some problems, I went then back to 7.3 on this machine. I also did some source upgrades from 7.x to 8.0 on some other machines without any problems. On Tuesday 27 July 2010 22:02:48 Michael Doyle wrote: > > In the past, I've usually done a wipe-and-reinstall when moving > between major version numbers > but I would rather avoid that this time around. I never did this since 5.2. The upgrades always worked for me. > > Also, would people recommend staying with version 7.3 or jumping all > the way to version 8.1 ? I would first install 7.3, check if all works and then do a source upgrade. Save the source tree for 7.3 just for the case you have to go back. > > CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2800.11-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf41 Stepping = 1 Not so new. Just like the machine which gave me the problem with 8.0. I never tried 8.1 on this machine. > > uhci0: port 0xcce0-0xccff irq 20 at > device 29.0 on pci0 > uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > usb0: on uhci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Somewhere here were the problems. > uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 You have Intel, I have NEC, so, you should not face the same problems I did. If they are not solved meanwhile. > atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 > kbd0 at atkbd0 > atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 Just one note. You are managing this machine remotely? No X on it? Take the two step approach and you should have a running system afterwards. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 11:24:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37E0106566B for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A718FC18 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:24:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so1194479fxm.13 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:24:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=0Q06DYPG7Eh0yJfzc4dke1+vPzY11DLjECyODeCZgIA=; b=Ms0OkcHIE2HbWdeuQtMq9iP5dkrrWdAApQoXZdDo1EeVTJQVQd4ZZl8y/yHVyiAhgQ fS30wcZewr+3LJhHKBnhN1QJR5nj3rn6yXHkj3uniT3lf9F6p+HkQ5Zp7pnxTpZNNBk4 VOTbZGTXA33yUIQEAVCu63269FAzcmzZ8mNgs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=OPGUpOAlPAoMyjcNuZR3Qn+IP39Eemdg45LXudXtUBhjYnFXaQcsn1l1jVDGBxjjKC IqlZJDII0yt56EGAYBEHYlNRDktaFdeI1mFtk811FG9/o2GyTFIaXdIUu4otzD9yNQk+ jemys4AZuFu3T0qh1N+cBuciobvvgRISyCwvY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.183.67 with SMTP id t3mr728355hbg.123.1280316255727; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:24:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.160.201 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:24:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201007281847.13397.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> References: <201007281847.13397.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:24:15 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Erich Dollansky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Michael Doyle , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade 6.4-stable to 7.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:24:17 -0000 On 28 July 2010 11:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > I did a source upgrade on one box from 6.4 to 7.2 or 7.3 without any > problems. > > I later did a source upgrade to 8.0 on the same machine just to find out > that USB has some problems, I went then back to 7.3 on this machine. > > I also did some source upgrades from 7.x to 8.0 on some other machines > without any problems. > > On Tuesday 27 July 2010 22:02:48 Michael Doyle wrote: > > > > In the past, I've usually done a wipe-and-reinstall when moving > > between major version numbers > > but I would rather avoid that this time around. > > I never did this since 5.2. The upgrades always worked for me. > the jump from 4-5 was funk if i remember, due to the rc structure changing completely and you would normally have wanted to take advantage of ufs2 > > > > Also, would people recommend staying with version 7.3 or jumping all > > the way to version 8.1 ? > > I would first install 7.3, check if all works and then do a source upgrade. > Save the source tree for 7.3 just for the case you have to go back. > > > > CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2800.11-MHz 686-class CPU) > > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf41 Stepping = 1 > > Not so new. Just like the machine which gave me the problem with 8.0. I > never tried 8.1 on this machine. > > > > uhci0: port 0xcce0-0xccff irq 20 at > > device 29.0 on pci0 > > uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > > usb0: on uhci0 > > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > > uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > > Somewhere here were the problems. > > > uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > > You have Intel, I have NEC, so, you should not face the same problems I > did. If they are not solved meanwhile. > > > atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 > > kbd0 at atkbd0 > > atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > > psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 > > Just one note. You are managing this machine remotely? No X on it? > > Take the two step approach and you should have a running system afterwards. > > Erich > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 13:05:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9E81065679 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:05:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin.wilcox@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0DD48FC1A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:05:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywf9 with SMTP id 9so992085ywf.13 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:05:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=k1ef2nSlxSLbO40g60G+dO9x6rARc53Eb4MUx4Vg240=; b=aLQwziMps4U+R7EfstJ5gYyjkec0nQYJg6BNwHTn9hp38Mhwbz2fqosDXf7+lAkNFu xL/Mvf4a3a+KFR8KllAMPlCCvR/1xJRM06K19g2cHTRZVfdK4SdHsL0tx5mlSVDsmEOA oz+LNQqbBElp/ZxWkGtCKhOlJnU0Vo6q2e1EM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=cjJO6B/NhRu43C5dYg44uvbNb3/RGiQdh7TlpC3GcsajdfDp7izGJlpQaXiCDbGGdV UfwHWeqjRr8CKcyQYyLCVD01wltWevx2jcIdGpy4Pn8mb5vIgkPB+DVLx5rc+p+QHb0o wIF65O3mzgLvx5OrUiyredesAz+GR/5jRs2Rg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.34.8 with SMTP id h8mr7790198agh.30.1280322323700; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.94.18 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:05:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C4FB661.5040903@el.net> References: <4C4FB661.5040903@el.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:05:23 -0400 Message-ID: From: Kevin Wilcox To: kalin m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vmware and freebsd 8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:05:25 -0000 On 28 July 2010 00:47, kalin m wrote: > messing around with vmware and fbsd 8... > > has anybody used vmware esxi 4 to put a bunch of fbsd machines on it? > i also installed the vmsphere client (they call it) which is pretty nice > interface to interact with the virtual machines but apparently doesn't know > much on how to install vmware tools on a bsd guest. We use paid-for ESX, not ESXi, but that shouldn't make a difference. FreeBSD 8 and ESX play great together, at least in my circumstances. Setups are pretty generic - minimal installs + ports with different VMs for subversion, apache, postgresql, OSSEC, netflow collectors, snort and even a few virtual FreeBSD firewalls. Overall I couldn't be more pleased. > so the question is which vmware tools should i get for the fbsd 8 guests to > go with the esxi 4.1. in the ports there are vmware-tools6, 5, 4, 3. tried > six. it wants some disk. there is also the open-vmware-tools. is that open > one better to play with the esxi 4.1 an the vmsphere thing? I install vmware-guestd6 from ports so I can eliminate all of the X libraries getting installed. ESXi should come with a freebsd.iso file that you can use for the tools install (I'm not one of our ESX administrators so I can't speak definitively but I did get an ISO from them for the tools installation). > also is there anything better than vmware for virtualization that plays nice > and with fbsd? The rumour is that FreeBSD does great as Xen domU but then you have to have a Linux or Windows dom0 (perhaps Mac OS X would work, too?). I'm doing a CentOS install right now, specifically to try FreeBSD under Xen. As someone else mentioned, VirtualBox and FreeBSD get along great though I'm not entirely sure *I* would use it for a production environment. I ran VirtualBox on a FreeBSD host with FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Linux, Windows XP and Windows 7 Ultimate guests and my issues were minimal. It's the only virtualisation software installed on this workstation. kmw -- A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting. Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 13:12:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B1F106566C for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:12:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.72.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933DD8FC16 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:12:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.164] ([206.210.89.202]) by mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (StrongMail Enterprise 4.1.1.4(4.1.1.4-47689)); Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:03:05 -0400 X-VirtualServerGroup: Default X-MailingID: 00000::00000::00000::00000::::2313 X-SMHeaderMap: mid="X-MailingID" X-Destination-ID: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-SMFBL: ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Message-ID: <4C502CB6.1030007@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:12:22 -0400 From: Steve Polyack User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100707 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Wilcox References: <4C4FB661.5040903@el.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: kalin m , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vmware and freebsd 8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:12:25 -0000 On 07/28/10 09:05, Kevin Wilcox wrote: > On 28 July 2010 00:47, kalin m wrote: > > >> so the question is which vmware tools should i get for the fbsd 8 guests to >> go with the esxi 4.1. in the ports there are vmware-tools6, 5, 4, 3. tried >> six. it wants some disk. there is also the open-vmware-tools. is that open >> one better to play with the esxi 4.1 an the vmsphere thing? >> > I install vmware-guestd6 from ports so I can eliminate all of the X > libraries getting installed. ESXi should come with a freebsd.iso file > that you can use for the tools install (I'm not one of our ESX > administrators so I can't speak definitively but I did get an ISO from > them for the tools installation). > > We've always used the open-vm-tools port (/usr/ports/emulators/open-vm-tools-nox11). There is both an x11 and "nox11" version, both of which work very well. It also includes a handful of other drivers and modules, including the memory balloon driver. If you only intend on using the vmware-guestd, vmxnet, and/or vmmemctl (memory ballon driver), then you can build with "-DWITHOUT_DNET -DWITHOUT_ICU -DWITHOUT_FUSE" to eliminate a few more dependencies. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 13:40:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D25B1065677 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bunchou@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB19D8FC08 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:40:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so4514208bwz.13 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:40:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bFbyV26Bdx6h7F/ojSbQ4uM11DujEcdyfMRMMTIyPJI=; b=GrfCkS8tHegf5j0SjRqs1DJZfLY/5kDyFQXydyfvuFvWKyd80HTmAwH6FPZSD414xs 7fy2qEq4RMRUkjzNm35ap5cWJTPTZLlkPTJMWYlgvH94F2bM7QRceYpmD5MKplbR5c2L 9rjSA38dtgxHkeA/wcO8xt11FgznCp7cE3U/k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xuMmAog+Rw8W4Th8JT2sjjisI2o5M5AEL2YoG78YrmxS005AF43eUYXvaiXuG0IObG zvyQCMDIRxbNR1sEcBV7kDwIV5njJmojG4oYvHkEH/NotbN5jsQGLurZHeuzb+wXcIXc /5JzBLxSPpoGVIT6+WhRhjaIrpC1I705wO2/Q= Received: by 10.204.126.161 with SMTP id c33mr7954084bks.108.1280322972163; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from centaur.5550h.net (p5DC266ED.dip.t-dialin.net [93.194.102.237]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s34sm4779602bkk.1.2010.07.28.06.16.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:16:04 +0200 From: "=?UTF-8?B?5paH6bOl?=" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100728151604.3452f9f8@centaur.5550h.net> In-Reply-To: <4C4FF35A.3010407@antonioshome.net> References: <4C4FF35A.3010407@antonioshome.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Compiling vim with gnome, anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:40:26 -0000 On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:07:38 +0200 Antonio Vieiro wrote: > > make -DWITH_VIM_OPTIONS config Hi Antonio, I also had problems getting gnome support added, but at least the following worked for me: make WITH_GTK2=yes WITH_GNOME=yes install clean Alternatively, you might consider installing ports-mgmt/portconf and adding the following line to /usr/local/etc/ports.conf: editors/vim*: WITH_GTK2 | WITH_GNOME then just type "make". The same goes for all the other options you need. Best regards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 13:49:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DB9106566C for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:49:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itmngr@cooperationireland.org) Received: from smtp4.irishbroadband.ie (smtp4.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A738FC1A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:49:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [62.231.53.178] (helo=mail.cooperationireland.org) by smtp4.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Oe6i1-000Cqo-3t; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:30:09 +0100 Received: from [10.0.1.18] ([89.124.236.45]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.cooperationireland.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6SDli8b054643; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:47:45 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from itmngr@cooperationireland.org) Message-Id: From: Michael Doyle To: Erich Dollansky In-Reply-To: <201007281847.13397.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:49:45 +0100 References: <201007281847.13397.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.cooperationireland.org X-Scan-Signature: 2ab6b719fffc26a0f4ad1221cde10b98 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade 6.4-stable to 7.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:49:54 -0000 On 28 Jul 2010, at 11:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Just one note. You are managing this machine remotely? No X on it? > > Take the two step approach and you should have a running system > afterwards. It's a mail server, no X but I do have physical access. Michael Doyle Network Administrator, Co-operation Ireland mdoyle@cooperationireland.org http://www.cooperationireland.org/ Co-operation Ireland Events: http://www.cooperationireland.org/supportus/overview Phone: +353-1-6610588 Fax: +353-1-6618456 Mobile: 00353-87-2357853 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 14:15:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D876106566C for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:15:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc2-cmbg1-0-0-cust385.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [82.21.105.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249FF8FC13 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:15:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan by catflap.slightlystrange.org with local (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Oe7Q5-000Jjl-Mf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:15:41 +0100 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:15:41 +0100 From: Daniel Bye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100728141541.GA1639@catflap.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <10E4650A2BFB426791D24BE51450BEC0@GRANTPC> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <10E4650A2BFB426791D24BE51450BEC0@GRANTPC> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE amd64 Sender: Daniel Bye Subject: Re: Why am I getting mail rejects? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:15:43 -0000 --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 06:33:48PM -0400, Grant Peel wrote: > Hi everyone, >=20 > I asked this a few days ago, and did not get a response. >=20 > I have this in my /etc/periodic.conf: >=20 > constellation# more periodic.conf > # 460.status-mail-rejects > daily_status_mail_rejects_enable=3D"NO" # Check mail rej= ects > daily_status_mail_rejects_logs=3D0 # How many logs= to=20 > check > daily_status_mail_rejects_shorten=3D"NO" # Shorten output >=20 > And have chnaged this in my /etc/defaults/periodic.conf: Don't change anything in /etc/defaults. These are sourced before the local config files, so anything set correctly in your local config will override the default settings anyway. >=20 > # 460.status-mail-rejects > daily_status_mail_rejects_enable=3D"NO" # Check mail=20 > rejects > daily_status_mail_rejects_logs=3D3 # How many logs= to > check > daily_status_mail_rejects_shorten=3D"NO" # Shorten output >=20 > And am still getting all the reject mail data showing in my daily periodic > output. >=20 > I am using FreeBSD 8.0 p#3 > The mta is Exim 4.69_4 built from ports. >=20 > What am I doing incorrectly? Why am I still getting all the mail reject l= og > lines in my daily periodic output? In /etc/periodic.conf: exim_status_mail_rejects_enable=3D"NO" Exim installs its own rejects status script in /usr/local/etc/periodic. Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxQO40ACgkQixf5fBYiFmp+DgCg1SH9hJf8E4uj+S59TaWe4nfe MlIAmwb+zeqf/SxF9cziZTGB5gek9Pux =W74+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 14:26:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CEF1065677 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:26:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin.wilcox@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA4C8FC12 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:26:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4so2132607gyg.13 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:26:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Sz8K4RdGIO4eXuXJ5dvwJujbQT9UzZEoEGMeM8J5kCU=; b=EW5C+tiaiyUQPKHWJ0HyvP/Cej16S0jJkJfeOyGQULwxgYv/2b/6NoCVXKiRBK6s1W VNQzZiuLzltxz9r6bKUrHZJxfvm1NZaXT4GhX2q/wgQIazKrBGaikRmypsobR+DMdyGv p2J5fSGj5MbhzUJ5Uhl6ez2Pz7glt0H1PDKMs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wr106RKgVQDeaBmSpimlPLffeIjxoVG5PW4kke7nZ2v3ibKLwfnmz62Q1+o26WS6JJ 5WHV77y8aUfHdDwY+ZoDmzhacWOhTu0mlEZVfgYFlXxhH/E1vKl8i2H5+YimAu8hyC3S aCkJh/acAxoeZko4xkGJxUhWVzBKZAlFxLxs4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.49.2 with SMTP id w2mr8038660agw.120.1280327187818; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.94.18 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:26:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C502CB6.1030007@comcast.net> References: <4C4FB661.5040903@el.net> <4C502CB6.1030007@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:26:27 -0400 Message-ID: From: Kevin Wilcox To: Steve Polyack Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vmware and freebsd 8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:26:37 -0000 On 28 July 2010 09:12, Steve Polyack wrote: > We've always used the open-vm-tools port > (/usr/ports/emulators/open-vm-tools-nox11). =C2=A0There is both an x11 an= d > "nox11" version, both of which work very well. =C2=A0It also includes a h= andful > of other drivers and modules, including the memory balloon driver. > > If you only intend on using the vmware-guestd, vmxnet, and/or vmmemctl > (memory ballon driver), then you can build with "-DWITHOUT_DNET > -DWITHOUT_ICU -DWITHOUT_FUSE" to eliminate a few more dependencies. Steve - that's excellent advice. I'll try out open-vm-tools-nox11 on one of my VMs this afternoon and see how it goes. Thanks!! kmw --=20 A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting. Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 14:49:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602E61065673 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:49:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonio@antonioshome.net) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C708FC08 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:49:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwa36 with SMTP id 36so419608wwa.31 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.89.149 with SMTP id c21mr4070584wef.73.1280328558574; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from antonio.localnet (247.pool85-49-219.dynamic.orange.es [85.49.219.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w46sm3511707weq.19.2010.07.28.07.49.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:49:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C50430A.2030007@antonioshome.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:47:38 +0200 From: Antonio Vieiro User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100630 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C4FF35A.3010407@antonioshome.net> <20100728151604.3452f9f8@centaur.5550h.net> In-Reply-To: <20100728151604.3452f9f8@centaur.5550h.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Compiling vim with gnome, anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:49:20 -0000 Hi, Thanks! That solved the issue. Cheers, Antonio On 28/07/2010 15:16, 文鳥 wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:07:38 +0200 > Antonio Vieiro wrote: > >> >> make -DWITH_VIM_OPTIONS config > > Hi Antonio, > > I also had problems getting gnome support added, but at least the > following worked for me: > > make WITH_GTK2=yes WITH_GNOME=yes install clean > > Alternatively, you might consider installing ports-mgmt/portconf > and adding the following line to /usr/local/etc/ports.conf: > > editors/vim*: WITH_GTK2 | WITH_GNOME > > then just type "make". > > The same goes for all the other options you need. > > Best regards > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 15:34:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41ECE106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:34:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-announce@chthonic.com) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.freeshell.org [192.94.73.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FE98FC13 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:34:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:ja@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.15]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6SFKRrP017640 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:20:27 GMT Received: (from ja@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.4/8.12.8/Submit) id o6SFKRb3006313 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:20:27 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: sdf.lonestar.org: ja set sender to freebsd-announce@chthonic.com using -f Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:20:27 +0000 From: "J. Altman" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100728152026.GA19185@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Upgrading to 8.1; Perl; and libgcrypt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-announce@chthonic.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:34:04 -0000 Greetings... I am looking at upgrading to 8.1 from 8.0 on an AMD64. As you know, Perl is now at 5.12 and requires a recursive dependency rebuild; and so does libgcrypt. This seems to be a rather extensive pair of updates. Perl, while (IIRC) it is in the base system, is being reported as needing an upgrade via portversion | grep '<'. I seem to recall something that makes me think I am wrong here...that it's not in the base system, maybe? Is libgcrypt, perhaps, part of the base system? I suspect not. I've read http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.1R/relnotes.html and http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.1R/relnotes-detailed.html and Perl 5.12 is not mentioned as a part of 8.1. Does this mean that an upgrade via /usr/src will not upgrade Perl to 5.12? I suspect it does mean that Perl will not be upgraded from 5.10; but I do hope that Perl will be upgraded to 5.12 via an update to /usr/src. I also can't remember if a recursive rebuild of all ports after an upgrade across releases was ever recommended. For some reason, I think I read that somewhere. My point with these questions is to move toward 8.1 in the most economical manner. Thanks for any help, and best regards, Joe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 15:40:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0771065676 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:40:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1C78FC16 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:40:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 28 Jul 2010 11:40:55 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.8-GA) with ESMTP id RBT55501; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:40:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 28 Jul 2010 11:40:55 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19536.20358.580980.16319@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:40:54 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20100728152026.GA19185@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> References: <20100728152026.GA19185@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: Upgrading to 8.1; Perl; and libgcrypt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:40:56 -0000 J. Altman writes: > Perl, while (IIRC) it is in the base system, You do not recall correctly. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 16:00:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED5E1065686 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:00:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A039D8FC2A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6SG0Pl6093736; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:00:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5E3D4BA9C; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:00:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:00:25 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "J. Altman" Message-ID: <20100728160025.GA91164@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20100728152026.GA19185@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100728152026.GA19185@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading to 8.1; Perl; and libgcrypt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:00:34 -0000 --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 03:20:27PM +0000, J. Altman wrote: > Greetings... >=20 > I am looking at upgrading to 8.1 from 8.0 on an AMD64. In case you're upgrading from source, do not forget to delete the archivers= /xz port before doing a buildworld, else buildworld will fail. =20 > As you know, Perl is now at 5.12 and requires a recursive dependency > rebuild; and so does libgcrypt. >=20 > This seems to be a rather extensive pair of updates. I would advise you to use portmaster; 1) portmaster -o lang/perl5.12 lang/perl5.10 2) portmaster p5- That worked for me. > Perl, while (IIRC) it is in the base system Not anymore. > I also can't remember if a recursive rebuild of all ports after an > upgrade across releases was ever recommended. For some reason, I think > I read that somewhere. Only when switching between major versions. In that case it is best to make= a list of all installed ports (portmaster -L), delete all ports before the upgrade, and install the 'root' and 'leaf' ports from the list again. > My point with these questions is to move toward 8.1 in the most > economical manner. If you are running a GENERIC kernel, you could use freebsd-update. That is probably the fastest. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxQVBkACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWV6QCgmzqKy6MWfCWiwyGevGPwEzrB 3MIAoKf02Tc8zUeK+XXIQcZB2Gqapm3O =Ui4X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 16:20:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB05106566C for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:20:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [74.1.12.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34818FC1B for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 38350 invoked by uid 1008); 28 Jul 2010 17:42:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@74.1.12.115) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 28 Jul 2010 17:42:27 -0000 Message-ID: <4C5058BD.3080301@el.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:20:13 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Macintosh/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Wilcox References: <4C4FB661.5040903@el.net> <4C502CB6.1030007@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Steve Polyack , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vmware and freebsd 8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:20:16 -0000 awesome... thanks to all replies... i'll try the nox11 also.. those machines are only intended as servers so guis are not necessary... thanks... Kevin Wilcox wrote: > On 28 July 2010 09:12, Steve Polyack wrote: > > >> We've always used the open-vm-tools port >> (/usr/ports/emulators/open-vm-tools-nox11). There is both an x11 and >> "nox11" version, both of which work very well. It also includes a handful >> of other drivers and modules, including the memory balloon driver. >> >> If you only intend on using the vmware-guestd, vmxnet, and/or vmmemctl >> (memory ballon driver), then you can build with "-DWITHOUT_DNET >> -DWITHOUT_ICU -DWITHOUT_FUSE" to eliminate a few more dependencies. >> > > Steve - that's excellent advice. I'll try out open-vm-tools-nox11 on > one of my VMs this afternoon and see how it goes. Thanks!! > > kmw > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 16:27:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9622D106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:27:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9718FC23 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:27:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk7 with SMTP id 7so2249254pzk.13 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:27:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5daGEoY3LeOq/6yIZ6U4+b2GmTngsQqGpkQqUEz6hXE=; b=ulUu9t9Uz1NMoRyML4a467lWjRSS9NMkmvYLcU8fUZkZ1Av6YL9O8ZQH0pQZLG4+Zd NiMjuUW/PrOhNAobpXpaZCaQTA4cCR1soON6+mt+dvPpUiusic/0GJXrXi+EhQo9jwqg o9QUYVdhDGS0Mdyk+FjdZIwvderiaAaa/+IpI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aQAk/lBdpsPqQP+8IxjFtxWRgK2BnreLN9redX5bqzMS8f7NfoWEd2+5MSL88i9Ax8 l2d09mQNv1Irrw7jI0DL8OndGtNmoJZi7OA7JPR2sHPynAhhWQW305ZuVW3I0DFVIQIv 8iVjFpIZXFE6q0NjzHML6mAww2AyfCqTxC7Pg= Received: by 10.114.127.3 with SMTP id z3mr15793055wac.83.1280334420570; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:27:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.246.144 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:26:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C4F1B06.7020900@antonioshome.net> References: <4C4DC4FA.6070400@antonioshome.net> <4C4F1B06.7020900@antonioshome.net> From: "Jack L." Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:26:39 -0700 Message-ID: To: Antonio Vieiro Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:27:07 -0000 Oh, they aren't on the freebsd package sites due to some of the dependencies having licensing issues preventing it from being built automatically (java). That's why there's a seperate site for them. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Antonio Vieiro wrote: > D'oh! Are those the official packages? pkg_add -r -v openoffice3 didn't w= ork > from the command line (that's why I posted this, just in case there're an= y > other newbies reading this ;-)). > > Cheers, > Antonio > > On 27/07/2010 17:15, Jack L. wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Antonio Vieiro >> =C2=A0wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> For those trying to test OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE (no >>> official package yet): >>> >>> This: >>> >>> ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/3.2.1/i386/OO= o_3.2.1_FreeBSD81Intel_install_es.tbz >>> >>> From >>> ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/3.2.1/i386/ >>> >>> is working for me. >>> >> >> Those are the official packages ;) >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 16:44:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356E6106567A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:44:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mwlucas@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org) Received: from bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org [198.22.63.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFBB98FC1B for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:44:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6SGKiXO070441 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:20:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o6SGKhqF070440 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:20:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:20:43 -0400 From: "Michael W. Lucas" To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100728162043.GA51024@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.5 (bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:20:44 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Subject: apache22 build problem: cgi disabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:44:47 -0000 Hi, I'm running a July 26 -current/amd64, both ports and userland, and it seems that the newest apache22 doesn't build a lot of modules, such as mod_cgi, mod_cache, etc. /var/db/ports/apache22/options includes (among other things): WITH_CGI=3Dtrue make.conf defines only perl and sendmail.mc. The port's config.log shows: $ ./configure --prefix=3D/usr/local --enable-layout=3DFreeBSD --with-perl= =3D/usr/local/bin/perl5.8.9 --with-port=3D80 --with-expat=3D/usr/local --wi= th-iconv=3D/usr/local --enable-http --with-pcre=3D/usr/local --with-apr=3D/= usr/local/bin/apr-1-config --with-apr-util=3D/usr/local/bin/apu-1-config --= disable-authn-file --disable-authn-default --disable-authz-host --disable-a= uthz-groupfile --disable-authz-user --disable-authz-default --disable-auth-= basic --disable-charset-lite --disable-include --disable-log-config --disab= le-env --disable-setenvif --disable-mime --disable-status --disable-autoind= ex --disable-asis --disable-cgid --disable-cgi --disable-negotiation --disa= ble-dir --disable-imagemap --disable-actions --disable-userdir --disable-al= ias --disable-filter --disable-proxy --disable-proxy-connect --disable-prox= y-ftp --disable-proxy-http --disable-proxy-ajp --disable-proxy-balancer --d= isable-proxy-scgi --disable-reqtimeout --enable-so --enable-mods-shared=3Da= uth_basic auth_digest authn_file authn_dbm authn_anon authn_default authn_a= lias authz_host authz_groupfile authz_user authz_dbm authz_owner authz_defa= ult disk_cache file_cache dav dav_fs actions alias asis autoindex cern_meta= charset_lite deflate dir dumpio env expires headers imagemap include info = log_config logio mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling statu= s unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias version reqtimeout proxy_connect = ssl --with-dbm=3Dsdbm --with-ssl=3D/usr --disable-ipv6 --with-devrandom --w= ith-mpm=3Dprefork --prefix=3D/usr/local --mandir=3D/usr/local/man --infodir= =3D/usr/local/info/ --build=3Damd64-portbld-freebsd9.0 There's a --disable-cgi in there, but no cgi listed after --enable-mods. So, my FreeBSD options are set to enable CGI, but they aren't making it down to the Apache build process. Am I doing something daft here, or should I file a PR? Thanks, =3D=3Dml --=20 Michael W. Lucas mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org http://www.MichaelWLucas.com/, http://blather.MichaelWLucas.com/ New book available: Network Flow Analysis http://www.networkflowanalysis.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 17:24:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E4C106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:24:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F161A8FC13 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:24:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24169 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2010 17:24:47 -0000 Received: from dsl081-163-112.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO ringbill.gull.us) ([64.81.163.112]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 28 Jul 2010 17:24:47 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=www.gull.us) by ringbill.gull.us with esmtp (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OeAN4-000LZO-Pz for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:24:47 -0700 Received: from d-69-91-159-240.dhcp4.washington.edu ([69.91.159.240]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user gull) by www.gull.us with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:24:47 -0700 Message-ID: <62ff4ba92a711128d74c6319f09ade0c.squirrel@www.gull.us> In-Reply-To: <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:24:47 -0700 From: "David Brodbeck" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:24:48 -0000 On Tue, July 27, 2010 3:09 pm, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Paul Schmehl on Tuesday, 27 July 2010: >> --On Tuesday, July 27, 2010 15:49:47 -0500 Reid Linnemann >> wrote: >> >> >On final analysis, I think the OP should abandon any desire for >> >FreeBSD in favor of this: http://pudge.net/jesux/ >> >> Sheesh. Now I really have seen everything. > > Not quite. Someone needs to come out with an OS named Atheix, and > another called Agnostix. Then we'll be complete. I tried Agnostix, but it's impossible to get support; every bug report gets closed with a status of "not enough information." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 17:49:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42363106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:49:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dadans@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1918FC18 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:49:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so5376702vws.13 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:49:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bwYtsYVjTYe1xu2XpeMYUHxHbc4lXqBeDQjhjXTv+bU=; b=Xp5GqqAHSMYBM1Av1AhTLgLSdMBk75dVV6QSj2Nnrb/uTge5og2BTV8Z7A1XrNLtCA F8JKwOABvECE8aeWSpnnldgnUbJ4kQVmmGtuRObtsLeiGaMFDFDY31RDJJ4iYesh4i8P A997py1HT8s8bL87tn5vC1hmUAO1ratBKJEDk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QSNUc806SEFc+iHLcqjAaQ1DDbQfim+hyIKdeBxtbkfAolRCrHOJQpfkP0KDl+2N8G cMlPhvWEN4F9mVPgsmZsfPiDWgGS9Z+T8S3qExqYxM4kYH4s0+iCjTr2ga/0WyVeOcDD 6SJDKuaIw5XGSu11kZahh/FvOjp2uM1+I6qOM= Received: by 10.220.88.152 with SMTP id a24mr6365816vcm.269.1280339353322; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:49:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.162.80 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:48:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: DadAN Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:48:52 +0200 Message-ID: To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Wifi AP behind FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:49:14 -0000 On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Erik N=F8rgaard wr= ote: > You need to enable routing in the kernel, I've forgotten the kernel varia= ble but do sysctl -a | grep rout > > Enable routing setting the variable to 1. > > Since you have a private network connecting to the Internet you need to c= onfigure nat. There are different solutions, I prefer packet filter. Hello, I wanna just ask if I really need setup nat? Because I think that it will by enought with nat by wifi router (dlink) connected to second nic ? And setup routing between nic's? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 17:50:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE51106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:50:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF8C8FC1A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:50:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so5342633wwf.1 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:50:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=i9OjH/pTrB+FU+LoCIWxXDCOaq9mZ8do/7x+Du8hV2U=; b=R4cjxe5AK10w5n/eeLFHwjV6QbCpviJWnXwyCJM72cGqR1c1BE8xDnxaeP8SEssA1G DbhjECDUTnxcAOBMZ4GI3Gxd8yawjPLnLrS6YDjULb+YqB0DOBOKPXM7e7Jjt+LL547M fDuhCVa+uVPg558aKCjhXw/kEk6+PrfB6PLbs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Ap9k5/LUC7CKnG6dHDnDK0h7iRc81pnTAgmhfYszAfP/dhimR5T6klMtxG9lzWRt8w 0Ofw6F1VOD/yjfDJrPZ+Bt6inJ6W89bMvZOUUPwfXZk5F+e+CYdxGj9UjkjM4E1KHadx 8aTC+lMAHkO3LGDB9SUfoR3SXwz8ongKWhveM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.134.144 with SMTP id j16mr10964969wbt.50.1280339443873; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.168.207 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:50:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: gmake not on install media FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:50:45 -0000 Dear folks, gmake not on install media, where can I find gmake? Was it given the boot? I am having difficulties compiling mplayer :(, make returns strange errors. I have succeeded before with gmake, is it still available? Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 18:02:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709E1106573E for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:02:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout023.mac.com (asmtpout023.mac.com [17.148.16.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1CE8FC0C for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:02:45 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp023.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L6A002E84RMJC70@asmtp023.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:02:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1007280115 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-07-28_07:2010-07-28, 2010-07-28, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:02:10 -0700 Message-id: <6E8E399D-BC8C-4227-BA17-B265D09D4464@mac.com> References: To: Antonio Olivares X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: gmake not on install media FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:02:46 -0000 On Jul 28, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > gmake not on install media, where can I find gmake? cd /usr/ports/devel/gmake make install > Was it given the boot? Nope. > I am having difficulties compiling mplayer :(, make returns strange > errors. I have succeeded before with gmake, is it still available? You will likely save yourself a great deal of effort by using the port: /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 18:13:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430281065758 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:13:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083948FC0A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:13:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OeAvw-0000Ud-KX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:00:49 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:13:26 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:13:26 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100728181326.GB37720@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <62ff4ba92a711128d74c6319f09ade0c.squirrel@www.gull.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tsOsTdHNUZQcU9Ye" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <62ff4ba92a711128d74c6319f09ade0c.squirrel@www.gull.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:13:32 -0000 --tsOsTdHNUZQcU9Ye Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth David Brodbeck on Wednesday, 28 July 2010: > On Tue, July 27, 2010 3:09 pm, Chip Camden wrote: > > Quoth Paul Schmehl on Tuesday, 27 July 2010: > >> --On Tuesday, July 27, 2010 15:49:47 -0500 Reid Linnemann > >> wrote: > >> > >> >On final analysis, I think the OP should abandon any desire for > >> >FreeBSD in favor of this: http://pudge.net/jesux/ > >> > >> Sheesh. Now I really have seen everything. > > > > Not quite. Someone needs to come out with an OS named Atheix, and > > another called Agnostix. Then we'll be complete. >=20 > I tried Agnostix, but it's impossible to get support; every bug report > gets closed with a status of "not enough information." >=20 With Atheix, they're all closed with "Not a problem." With Jesux, it's always, "Will be fixed in Coming 2.0 (to be released soon, we promise). Workaround: apply more faith." --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --tsOsTdHNUZQcU9Ye Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMUHNGAAoJEIpckszW26+Rrh0H/3I36yroRWKgvQkbKTMDQBAJ lJeUQMUCKft83zkBd23nlUdkTURhZQK9UUv+nL1cP6hLsIayHMEn8UJJ9IhcJOyI 4/LrusmYYqh5C/8MViNcnSg771dBflRJVbA4PMupgfVzPqzjJLpklzUVg/aj6wDh 373bHBEwEFuDoD4umOtbine2ByUEkq2GJPu/OMj0tspSAOHOCoA7yAvExonl6S5i pwR48BXO2vs9KTgnCLM8ZGyzY4eNyfzpi3ijHQOstIjtkoNxclxzDf3ru7uB0zXG 8XckY8p+whWGqcRaBKKX/zjKZPu7Mjh7Vl3simSprn99ZieyKgj23Db5uDj+yRc= =NaqS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tsOsTdHNUZQcU9Ye-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 18:19:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3881065676 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:19:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1380B8FC08 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:18:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so5407388wyj.13 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:18:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=YhlpHFK3ChbJaLBiZE1LTXaVyeQNLWRWboP2ji+TFk8=; b=qNx7GPUAWSJ1URGBt/1VokGbPJv9A6UST0/P0sFv21YiCDTf2bG3IkvT8lddKvMKUj X6Up2ytCeoqPkhRlxlgGCuClg2Fs2sv8QMYlZE+v8g4hfFW3hhD86DZGTERqZDDnCe+C jcYGdk4cYIC20Kk88lWFUDE89gIrmh/PzbYv0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=bc5J9P5mF0oF9+gVUYa+vzO3bBXqlrfEi6tZXe3eHSC5mEW5X+jqRgubDEWS54x+Cp ipPPhCuXtzEUiJurmh59Y1jC4+lWrEY0QAI7hLfdaFk/X8bQI7LMnPXBplYGbWePi2YG NzlxlU1aR/eXl5rF/E5gareUsz1o/N+HqPVgE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.182.202 with SMTP id o52mr11005888wem.29.1280341138770; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.168.207 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:18:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6E8E399D-BC8C-4227-BA17-B265D09D4464@mac.com> References: <6E8E399D-BC8C-4227-BA17-B265D09D4464@mac.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:18:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Chuck Swiger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: gmake not on install media FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:19:00 -0000 On 7/28/10, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Jul 28, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> gmake not on install media, where can I find gmake? > > cd /usr/ports/devel/gmake > make install > Can't do this at this modem :(, no internet connection available :( > >> Was it given the boot? > > Nope. > >> I am having difficulties compiling mplayer :(, make returns strange >> errors. I have succeeded before with gmake, is it still available? > > You will likely save yourself a great deal of effort by using the port: > > /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer If I had the connection, this one seems older mplayer-0.99??? I have had success before using mplayer versions 1rc2, and svn with gmake but gmake not on media. If I could find a binary and add it with pkg_add, I could be in business ? > > Regards, > -- > -Chuck > > Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 18:23:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC1D106568E for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:23:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout029.mac.com (asmtpout029.mac.com [17.148.16.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810688FC19 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:23:32 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp029.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L6A005V85R0UX70@asmtp029.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:23:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1007280121 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-07-28_08:2010-07-28, 2010-07-28, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:23:24 -0700 Message-id: <953FF5F8-19A6-4015-A640-7424802EF62F@mac.com> References: <6E8E399D-BC8C-4227-BA17-B265D09D4464@mac.com> To: Antonio Olivares X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: gmake not on install media FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:23:33 -0000 On Jul 28, 2010, at 11:18 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> cd /usr/ports/devel/gmake >> make install >> > > Can't do this at this modem :(, no internet connection available :( You could download either the source tarball or a precompiled binary to a USB pendrive or the like from somewhere else, but it is true that using ports generally does expect working internet connectivity. >>> Was it given the boot? >> >> Nope. >> >>> I am having difficulties compiling mplayer :(, make returns strange >>> errors. I have succeeded before with gmake, is it still available? >> >> You will likely save yourself a great deal of effort by using the port: >> >> /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer > > If I had the connection, this one seems older mplayer-0.99??? I have > had success before using mplayer versions 1rc2, and svn with gmake but > gmake not on media. If I could find a binary and add it with > pkg_add, I could be in business ? I'd imagine so, sure.... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 18:38:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4C2106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:38:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mginsburg@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252A58FC19 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:38:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.98] (treadshot.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com [192.168.2.98]) (AUTH: LOGIN mginsburg, SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:28:40 -0400 id 0003F403.000000004C5076D8.000027FF Message-ID: <4C5076D7.5040605@collaborativefusion.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:28:39 -0400 From: Mike Ginsburg User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090404) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Timestamp + Interval time zone issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:38:42 -0000 So I have pg 8.4.3 installed, with a database set to EST5EDT time zone. When I run "SELECT NOW()" I get 07/28/2010 14:27:07.767286 EDT showing that the timezone is properly set up. When I then try to add an interval to a statically entered time stamp, it gets all strange: SELECT '01/03/2011 16:00:00-04'::timestamp with time zone + '-1 hour'::interval; ?column? ------------------------- 01/03/2011 14:00:00 EST Any idea why the adding of the interval is converting the result into EST instead of EDT? Mike Ginsburg Collaborative Fusion, Inc. mginsburg@collaborativefusion.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 18:44:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF95106566C for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:44:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout027.mac.com (asmtpout027.mac.com [17.148.16.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8736E8FC18 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:44:48 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp027.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L6A00LSK6PP5A10@asmtp027.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:44:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1007280126 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-07-28_08:2010-07-28, 2010-07-28, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <4C5076D7.5040605@collaborativefusion.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:44:13 -0700 Message-id: <3CE0D0C0-2035-44F9-A677-0A69B2A071D6@mac.com> References: <4C5076D7.5040605@collaborativefusion.com> To: Mike Ginsburg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Timestamp + Interval time zone issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:44:48 -0000 Hi-- On Jul 28, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Mike Ginsburg wrote: > When I then try to add an interval to a statically entered time stamp, it gets all strange: > SELECT '01/03/2011 16:00:00-04'::timestamp with time zone + '-1 hour'::interval; > ?column? ------------------------- > 01/03/2011 14:00:00 EST > > Any idea why the adding of the interval is converting the result into EST instead of EDT? I'd image this is because Jan 3 is in EST: % date -j '01031600' Sun Jan 3 16:00:00 EST 2010 Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 18:45:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDE51065675 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:45:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB408FC1A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:45:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 9751776; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:45:08 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 9751774; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:44:59 -0400 Message-ID: <4C507AAB.8000709@radel.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:44:59 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mginsburg@collaborativefusion.com References: <4C5076D7.5040605@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <4C5076D7.5040605@collaborativefusion.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040206030408080901020407" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Timestamp + Interval time zone issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:45:10 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040206030408080901020407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 7/28/10 2:28 PM, Mike Ginsburg wrote: > > So I have pg 8.4.3 installed, with a database set to EST5EDT time zone.= > > When I run "SELECT NOW()" I get > 07/28/2010 14:27:07.767286 EDT > > showing that the timezone is properly set up. > > When I then try to add an interval to a statically entered time stamp, = > it gets all strange: > SELECT '01/03/2011 16:00:00-04'::timestamp with time zone + '-1=20 > hour'::interval; > ?column? ------------------------- > 01/03/2011 14:00:00 EST > > Any idea why the adding of the interval is converting the result into=20 > EST instead of EDT? Because Daylight Saving Time will be over by 1/3/2011? Does it still=20 happen if you use a statically entered time stamp that's during Daylight Saving? --=20 --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms040206030408080901020407-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 19:23:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB17106567E for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:23:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalescott@shaw.ca) Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6F78FC34 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pd5mr1no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.153.212]) by pd7mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 28 Jul 2010 12:55:08 -0600 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=1 a=NtSW-MNF0ocA:10 a=VphdPIyG4kEA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=2jwVjoiQAAAA:8 a=79PID_P9AAAA:8 a=V91_X3ARJ1aYYDUwihcA:9 a=v7Zybwd1QoPsE75syVUA:7 a=QRtQcxhTmwUcnLB7uxHZD-36rIkA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=0FppvyK2kXcA:10 a=hdjpm0ifAHkA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=FwrgJRdMhxzAKIf_4A8A:7 a=v4GV7n-OibGbsCMymZSvtiPT-T4A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Received: from unknown (HELO pd6ms3no.prod.shaw.ca) ([10.0.153.22]) by pd5mr1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:23:32 -0000 Personally=2C I enjoy our mascot Beastie=2C as well as the Beastie-influ= enced official logo=2E I also smile when I see Casper=2C Wendy andHotStu= ff=2E However=2C I also accept there are individuals who understand these sym= bols differently than me=2C and that I may be alienating them to my = detriment=2E It seems consumer products need to be mindful of cultural = differences=2C is FreeBSD=A0different=3F A larger community and increase= d OS market share wouldn=27t be all that bad=2C would it=3F I hope that those of you who believe in FreeBSD but with a personal conf= lict with the mascot or logo=2C band together and propose a complementary alternate symbol=2E I don=27t= = mean flooding the mail list (it=27s obvious we can do that on our own)=2C= = I=27m talking about difficult time-consuming organization=2C lobbying=2C= and = support gathering=2E For me=2C I hope Beastie endures forever - he our f= irst and legacy mascot - but I also wouldn=27t object to one or two more= officially sanctioned mascots and logos either=2E = Dale Scott ----- Original Message ----- From=3A David Brodbeck =3Cgull=40gull=2Eus=3E Date=3A Wednesday=2C July 28=2C 2010 11=3A25 Subject=3A Re=3A BSD logo To=3A freebsd-questions=40freebsd=2Eorg =3E On Tue=2C July 27=2C 2010 3=3A09 pm=2C Chip Camden wrote=3A =3E =3E Quoth Paul Schmehl on Tuesday=2C 27 July 2010=3A =3E =3E=3E --On Tuesday=2C July 27=2C 2010 15=3A49=3A47 -0500 Reid Linne= mann =3E =3E=3E =3Clreid=40cs=2Eokstate=2Eedu=3E wrote=3A =3E =3E=3E =3E =3E=3E =3EOn final analysis=2C I think the OP should abandon any des= ire for =3E =3E=3E =3EFreeBSD in favor of this=3A http=3A//pudge=2Enet/jesux/ =3E =3E=3E =3E =3E=3E Sheesh=2E=A0 Now I really have seen everything=2E =3E =3E =3E =3E Not quite=2E=A0 Someone needs to come out with an OS named = =3E Atheix=2C and =3E =3E another called Agnostix=2E=A0 Then we=27ll be complete=2E =3E = =3E I tried Agnostix=2C but it=27s impossible to get support=3B every bu= g report =3E gets closed with a status of =22not enough information=2E=22 =3E = =3E = =3E =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =3E freebsd-questions=40freebsd=2Eorg mailing list =3E http=3A//lists=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions =3E To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to =22freebsd-questions- =3E unsubscribe=40freebsd=2Eorg=22 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dale Scott=2C P=2EEng=2E e-mail=3A dalescott=40shaw=2Eca http=3A//dalescott=2Eshawwebspace=2Eca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 19:43:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79431065676 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:43:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mginsburg@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9788FC19 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.98] (treadshot.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com [192.168.2.98]) (AUTH: LOGIN mginsburg, SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:43:44 -0400 id 0003F419.000000004C508870.00003C41 Message-ID: <4C508870.6000208@collaborativefusion.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:43:44 -0400 From: Mike Ginsburg User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090404) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jon Radel References: <4C5076D7.5040605@collaborativefusion.com> <4C507AAB.8000709@radel.com> In-Reply-To: <4C507AAB.8000709@radel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Timestamp + Interval time zone issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:43:46 -0000 Jon Radel wrote: > On 7/28/10 2:28 PM, Mike Ginsburg wrote: >> >> So I have pg 8.4.3 installed, with a database set to EST5EDT time zone. >> >> When I run "SELECT NOW()" I get >> 07/28/2010 14:27:07.767286 EDT >> >> showing that the timezone is properly set up. >> >> When I then try to add an interval to a statically entered time >> stamp, it gets all strange: >> SELECT '01/03/2011 16:00:00-04'::timestamp with time zone + '-1 >> hour'::interval; >> ?column? ------------------------- >> 01/03/2011 14:00:00 EST >> >> Any idea why the adding of the interval is converting the result into >> EST instead of EDT? > Because Daylight Saving Time will be over by 1/3/2011? Does it still > happen if you use a > statically entered time stamp that's during Daylight Saving? Well now I just feel dumb. Using the same query, but within daylight savings produces the expected result. Thanks for the help. Mike Ginsburg Collaborative Fusion, Inc. mginsburg@collaborativefusion.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 19:45:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683961065675 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:45:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DF98FC0A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o6SJj2hB092646; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:45:03 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 0TGyWsGIH8pK; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:44:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6SJiq5h092616; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:44:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4C5088B3.7040900@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:44:51 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100504) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Terrence Koeman References: <48c60c0224f4d8499e121f1e15a3b7a5@mediamonks.com> In-Reply-To: <48c60c0224f4d8499e121f1e15a3b7a5@mediamonks.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Reid Linnemann , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:45:04 -0000 Terrence Koeman wrote: >> Subject: Re: BSD logo >> >> On final analysis, I think the OP should abandon any desire for >> FreeBSD in favor of this: http://pudge.net/jesux/ > > Is this real? It looks like a page from landoverbaptist.com or > something. I'm still deciding whether to laugh or cry... > Of course not. Even Jesus knows RedHat sucks. Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 19:50:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40E4106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:50:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7843D8FC13 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:50:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwa36 with SMTP id 36so791478wwa.31 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:50:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=GEgCJ2PB2GYH2nCZm6ex5YxEB9Qa5t7v4tJe/rGAsu8=; b=grp7yWFEs+OzcAtXRLxnIZ8E4teFMEK0+6OzQtq9eo/UJ33byD3hOE9BIBQd27Cu7Y SE3GufBM/fLcQaHHFjDqFlGuhruBNJZIyIH0X1EVFOve7XKNlZRvLfeJx4vCciUWWKa3 2JjE9L8f7tOi0vJ2D/vM7x1VwK8YE6VC8SACU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=tNueh8q2wGkGR1r2b4r0tOKWDmkxiFuEUTf0lqaGm/6gl+Lf1uibfpuWhbjkYQVk7E LcZ1qwjwBxexZYKvEWWuLnGMPgv2kHyMzPxGzNXlTqlcXbNo8d7SCbfcEJiYSG0EBF7l T5wfqCOQ55AWRXypPLg6PggmjcYJ5OxZNG3Uc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.154.133 with SMTP id h5mr10974741wek.93.1280346640036; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:50:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.168.207 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:50:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <953FF5F8-19A6-4015-A640-7424802EF62F@mac.com> References: <6E8E399D-BC8C-4227-BA17-B265D09D4464@mac.com> <953FF5F8-19A6-4015-A640-7424802EF62F@mac.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:50:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Chuck Swiger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: gmake not on install media FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:50:42 -0000 Chuck, Thank you for your help :), I managed to install gmake by getting it from : ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-8.1-release/Latest/ But mplayer fails to compile :( http://pastebin.com/KkUpb4jy I will await suggestions from mplayer list to get it going. Regards, Antonio On 7/28/10, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Jul 28, 2010, at 11:18 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: >>> cd /usr/ports/devel/gmake >>> make install >>> >> >> Can't do this at this modem :(, no internet connection available :( > > You could download either the source tarball or a precompiled binary to a > USB pendrive or the like from somewhere else, but it is true that using > ports generally does expect working internet connectivity. > >>>> Was it given the boot? >>> >>> Nope. >>> >>>> I am having difficulties compiling mplayer :(, make returns strange >>>> errors. I have succeeded before with gmake, is it still available? >>> >>> You will likely save yourself a great deal of effort by using the port: >>> >>> /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer >> >> If I had the connection, this one seems older mplayer-0.99??? I have >> had success before using mplayer versions 1rc2, and svn with gmake but >> gmake not on media. If I could find a binary and add it with >> pkg_add, I could be in business ? > > I'd imagine so, sure.... > > Regards, > -- > -Chuck > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 19:55:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F0E106566B for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:55:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB628FC27 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:54:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwk3 with SMTP id 3so1328900qwk.13 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:54:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=DizoDUIvj1c230x4DFFd0qKOJ5u216OrsUnklsII/js=; b=V4+KjNKwCjBJUhHGGClmMI3ek2xy2LR4wuUFX+MJf+w6uQcG7+kCuQAxbbuGk3sUiD KkT8h1GfFT+sKynihBV3Zn0O43MQvtb2C5IkK9dVw8H8k6uBNdKs4nymcejv4BMcqRB/ Cu6cHyCIuot9ajhRp5FwPYQqlxVpw51hqLsVk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; 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Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.168.207 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:24:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6E8E399D-BC8C-4227-BA17-B265D09D4464@mac.com> <953FF5F8-19A6-4015-A640-7424802EF62F@mac.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:24:02 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Adam Vande More Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: gmake not on install media FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:24:04 -0000 On 7/28/10, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Antonio Olivares > wrote: > >> Chuck, >> >> Thank you for your help :), I managed to install gmake by getting it from >> : >> >> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-8.1-release/Latest/ >> >> But mplayer fails to compile :( >> >> http://pastebin.com/KkUpb4jy >> >> I will await suggestions from mplayer list to get it going. >> >> > pkg_add -r > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-8.1-release/Latest/mplayer.tbz > > > -- > Adam Vande More > I would like to do this, but have no internet connection on my machine :( If I just download the file and pkg_add it, the dependencies might not be there? Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 20:36:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F3C1065670 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:36:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1938FC1D for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:36:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.local (unknown [89.204.153.215]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8EE161C0871; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:36:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C5094BE.1030106@locolomo.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:36:14 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DadAN References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Wifi AP behind FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:36:19 -0000 On 28/07/10 19.48, DadAN wrote: > I wanna just ask if I really need setup nat? Because I think that it > will by enought with nat by wifi router (dlink) connected to second > nic ? > And setup routing between nic's? In that setup, what you're looking for is bridging, take a look here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-bridging.html I don't know if you then need to enable routing in the kernel as I mentioned, as these are different things. I haven't tried bridging. BR, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 20:49:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ED1B1065670 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:49:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63C88FC14 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:49:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.local (unknown [89.204.153.215]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E3DA81C0871; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:49:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C5097E2.30305@locolomo.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:49:38 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maile Halatuituia References: <4C5094BE.1030106@locolomo.org> <9EA5C4ECCF740346B3FFB246D0AD05EA022BDC64@exchange.tcc.to> In-Reply-To: <9EA5C4ECCF740346B3FFB246D0AD05EA022BDC64@exchange.tcc.to> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: DadAN , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Wifi AP behind FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:49:43 -0000 On 28/07/10 22.43, Maile Halatuituia wrote: > If you will have a BSD Box you do not need to have that Dlink Router. > Co's DHCP, Router can handle by the FreeBSD in addition to Hotspot > Login. > > Lots and lots of manual for that on the Google. As I understand OP the DLink is required for the DSL connection and provides Ethernet to the FBSD box which then has a second interface connecting to the AP. I got a similar setup. You cannot take the DSL router out of that setup, but it should be possible with some routers to have that be the bridge (pppoe I think). In that setup the FBSD must do the nat. BR, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 21:00:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F019D1065672 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maile.halatuituia@tcc.to) Received: from mail.tcc.to (webmail.tcc.to [202.134.24.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F238FC19 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:00:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tcc-gw.tcc.to (localhost.tcc.to [127.0.0.1]) by mail.tcc.to (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D61E1146F; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:43:07 +1300 (TOT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tcc.to Received: from mail.tcc.to ([127.0.0.1]) by tcc-gw.tcc.to (tcc-gw.tcc.to [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aWybAGeNznr5; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:43:07 +1300 (TOT) Received: from exchange.tcc.to (unknown [10.0.1.4]) by mail.tcc.to (Postfix) with SMTP id EB27711466; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:43:06 +1300 (TOT) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:43:28 +1300 Message-ID: <9EA5C4ECCF740346B3FFB246D0AD05EA022BDC64@exchange.tcc.to> In-Reply-To: <4C5094BE.1030106@locolomo.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Wifi AP behind FreeBSD Thread-Index: AcsulR3Y/X0dTG4YT5K7YFHlkj7kOQAACCzg References: <4C5094BE.1030106@locolomo.org> From: "Maile Halatuituia" To: "Erik Norgaard" , "DadAN" Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: RE: Wifi AP behind FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:00:53 -0000 If you will have a BSD Box you do not need to have that Dlink Router. Co's DHCP, Router can handle by the FreeBSD in addition to Hotspot Login. Lots and lots of manual for that on the Google. Regard. Maile -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Erik Norgaard Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:36 AM To: DadAN Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Wifi AP behind FreeBSD On 28/07/10 19.48, DadAN wrote: > I wanna just ask if I really need setup nat? Because I think that it > will by enought with nat by wifi router (dlink) connected to second > nic ? > And setup routing between nic's? In that setup, what you're looking for is bridging, take a look here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-bridging.html I don't know if you then need to enable routing in the kernel as I=20 mentioned, as these are different things. I haven't tried bridging. BR, Erik _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 21:01:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66472106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maile.halatuituia@tcc.to) Received: from mail.tcc.to (mail.tcc.to [202.134.24.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6FA8FC15 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:01:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tcc-gw.tcc.to (localhost.tcc.to [127.0.0.1]) by mail.tcc.to (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32A711496; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:03:20 +1300 (TOT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tcc.to Received: from mail.tcc.to ([127.0.0.1]) by tcc-gw.tcc.to (tcc-gw.tcc.to [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MnwgARewTwzz; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:03:20 +1300 (TOT) Received: from exchange.tcc.to (unknown [10.0.1.4]) by mail.tcc.to (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AF711146F; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:03:20 +1300 (TOT) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:03:41 +1300 Message-ID: <9EA5C4ECCF740346B3FFB246D0AD05EA022BDC9E@exchange.tcc.to> In-Reply-To: <4C5097E2.30305@locolomo.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Wifi AP behind FreeBSD Thread-Index: AcsuluzQh/AijFJISASLylRv8P4nTAAANOFg References: <4C5094BE.1030106@locolomo.org> <9EA5C4ECCF740346B3FFB246D0AD05EA022BDC64@exchange.tcc.to> <4C5097E2.30305@locolomo.org> From: "Maile Halatuituia" To: "Erik Norgaard" Cc: DadAN , freebsd-questions Subject: RE: Wifi AP behind FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:01:50 -0000 Ok then=20 If it is an ADSL then surely you would need the D Link , but if it is Wimax or and other than that then I think it is possible to use only the FBSD box. Anyway I recommend you can look for one of the many software such as MonoWall which is a BSD based, it is very easy to setup with your PC having two or more NIC. You can authenticate your user based on voucher's to a Radius or anything you would like. BR, Maile -----Original Message----- From: Erik Norgaard [mailto:norgaard@locolomo.org]=20 Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:50 AM To: Maile Halatuituia Cc: DadAN; freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Wifi AP behind FreeBSD On 28/07/10 22.43, Maile Halatuituia wrote: > If you will have a BSD Box you do not need to have that Dlink Router. > Co's DHCP, Router can handle by the FreeBSD in addition to Hotspot > Login. > > Lots and lots of manual for that on the Google. As I understand OP the DLink is required for the DSL connection and=20 provides Ethernet to the FBSD box which then has a second interface=20 connecting to the AP. I got a similar setup. You cannot take the DSL router out of that setup, but it should be=20 possible with some routers to have that be the bridge (pppoe I think).=20 In that setup the FBSD must do the nat. BR, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 21:03:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479491065670 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:03:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [74.1.12.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FDD8FC24 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:03:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 75524 invoked by uid 1008); 28 Jul 2010 22:25:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@74.1.12.115) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 28 Jul 2010 22:25:39 -0000 Message-ID: <4C509B1B.1040200@el.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:03:23 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Macintosh/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C4FB661.5040903@el.net> <4C502CB6.1030007@comcast.net> <4C5058BD.3080301@el.net> In-Reply-To: <4C5058BD.3080301@el.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: vmware and freebsd 8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:03:25 -0000 so installed the open-vmware-tools-nox11 package... the vsphere ( the client interface) detects it but it says VMWare Tools: Unmanaged. any idea what that means? i did try to install from source off the sourceforge site without x and some other stuff but it's broken..... thanks... kalin m wrote: > > awesome... thanks to all replies... i'll try the nox11 also.. those > machines are only intended as servers so guis are not necessary... > thanks... > > > > Kevin Wilcox wrote: >> On 28 July 2010 09:12, Steve Polyack wrote: >> >> >>> We've always used the open-vm-tools port >>> (/usr/ports/emulators/open-vm-tools-nox11). There is both an x11 and >>> "nox11" version, both of which work very well. It also includes a >>> handful >>> of other drivers and modules, including the memory balloon driver. >>> >>> If you only intend on using the vmware-guestd, vmxnet, and/or vmmemctl >>> (memory ballon driver), then you can build with "-DWITHOUT_DNET >>> -DWITHOUT_ICU -DWITHOUT_FUSE" to eliminate a few more dependencies. >>> >> >> Steve - that's excellent advice. I'll try out open-vm-tools-nox11 on >> one of my VMs this afternoon and see how it goes. Thanks!! >> >> kmw >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 21:07:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D869E106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:07:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3E28FC1D for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.local (unknown [89.204.153.215]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7BD2A1C0871; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:07:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C509C09.5050700@locolomo.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:07:21 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DadAN References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Wifi AP behind FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:07:28 -0000 On 28/07/10 19.48, DadAN wrote: > Hello, > I wanna just ask if I really need setup nat? Because I think that it > will by enought with nat by wifi router (dlink) connected to second > nic ? And setup routing between nic's? Sorry, I think I misread or misunderstood your question in my previous reply. The typical configuration of a home AP that is /not/ also a router for internet access, the AP will be working as a simple bridge. I've understood you've got: wifi AP --- FBSD ---- Router --- Internet and the router does nat, in which case you need not do it on the FBSD box. If this is not your setup, please explain. BR, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 21:13:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61801065673 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:13:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from constellation.thenetnow.com (constellation.thenetnow.com [207.112.4.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01EC8FC08 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:13:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANTPC) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OeDwl-0009LK-6y; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:13:51 -0400 Message-ID: <3268CD1002ED434DA4DEA8DDCC7C6348@GRANTPC> From: "Grant Peel" To: References: <10E4650A2BFB426791D24BE51450BEC0@GRANTPC> <4C4F7C72.9020502@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:13:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why am I getting mail rejects? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:13:53 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Larkin" To: "Grant Peel" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 8:40 PM Subject: Re: Why am I getting mail rejects? > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Grant Peel wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> I asked this a few days ago, and did not get a response. >> >> I have this in my /etc/periodic.conf: >> >> constellation# more periodic.conf >> # 460.status-mail-rejects >> daily_status_mail_rejects_enable="NO" # Check mail >> rejects >> daily_status_mail_rejects_logs=0 # How many logs >> to check >> daily_status_mail_rejects_shorten="NO" # Shorten output >> >> And have chnaged this in my /etc/defaults/periodic.conf: >> >> # 460.status-mail-rejects >> daily_status_mail_rejects_enable="NO" # Check mail >> rejects >> daily_status_mail_rejects_logs=3 # How many logs >> to >> check >> daily_status_mail_rejects_shorten="NO" # Shorten output >> >> And am still getting all the reject mail data showing in my daily >> periodic >> output. >> >> I am using FreeBSD 8.0 p#3 >> The mta is Exim 4.69_4 built from ports. >> >> What am I doing incorrectly? Why am I still getting all the mail reject >> log >> lines in my daily periodic output? >> >> -Grant > > Hi Grant, > > Please capture the output of the following command and post it somewhere > for viewing. This will display all of the shell commands executed by > the periodic script, and it may help someone here troubleshoot the > problem. > > sh -x /etc/periodic/daily/460.status-mail-rejects > > Regards, > Greg > - -- > Greg Larkin > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve > http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. > http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iD8DBQFMT3xy0sRouByUApARAq35AJ9Jscb9hHedbTiu3MXimj3UIiS3uQCcCOmB > xxU/f3r6jvqwZ51ji/jo4k0= > =qwGv > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Greg, Here is the output you suggested. (I have a /etc/periodic.conf, but not /etc/periodic.conf.local). constellation# sh -x /etc/periodic/daily/460.status-mail-rejects + [ -r /etc/defaults/periodic.conf ] + . /etc/defaults/periodic.conf + periodic_conf_files='/etc/periodic.conf /etc/periodic.conf.local' + local_periodic=/usr/local/etc/periodic + daily_output=root + daily_show_success=YES + daily_show_info=YES + daily_show_badconfig=NO + daily_clean_disks_enable=NO + daily_clean_disks_files='[#,]* .#* a.out *.core *.CKP .emacs_[0-9]*' + daily_clean_disks_days=3 + daily_clean_disks_verbose=YES + daily_clean_tmps_enable=NO + daily_clean_tmps_dirs=/tmp + daily_clean_tmps_days=3 + daily_clean_tmps_ignore='.X*-lock .X11-unix .ICE-unix .font-unix .XIM-unix' + daily_clean_tmps_ignore='.X*-lock .X11-unix .ICE-unix .font-unix .XIM-unix quota.user quota.group' + daily_clean_tmps_verbose=YES + daily_clean_preserve_enable=YES + daily_clean_preserve_days=7 + daily_clean_preserve_verbose=YES + daily_clean_msgs_enable=YES + daily_clean_msgs_days='' + daily_clean_rwho_enable=YES + daily_clean_rwho_days=7 + daily_clean_rwho_verbose=YES + daily_clean_hoststat_enable=YES + daily_backup_passwd_enable=YES + daily_backup_aliases_enable=YES + daily_calendar_enable=NO + daily_accounting_enable=YES + daily_accounting_compress=NO + daily_accounting_flags=-q + daily_accounting_save=3 + daily_news_expire_enable=YES + daily_status_disks_enable=YES + daily_status_disks_df_flags='-l -h' + daily_status_zfs_enable=NO + daily_status_ata_raid_enable=NO + daily_status_gmirror_enable=NO + daily_status_graid3_enable=NO + daily_status_gstripe_enable=NO + daily_status_gconcat_enable=NO + daily_status_network_enable=YES + daily_status_network_usedns=YES + daily_status_rwho_enable=YES + daily_status_mailq_enable=YES + daily_status_mailq_shorten=NO + daily_status_include_submit_mailq=YES + daily_status_security_enable=YES + daily_status_mail_rejects_enable=NO + daily_status_mail_rejects_logs=3 + daily_status_mail_rejects_shorten=NO + daily_status_named_enable=YES + daily_status_named_usedns=YES + daily_status_ntpd_enable=NO + daily_queuerun_enable=YES + daily_submit_queuerun=YES + daily_local=/etc/daily.local + daily_status_security_inline=NO + daily_status_security_output=root + daily_status_security_noamd=NO + daily_status_security_logdir=/var/log + daily_status_security_diff_flags='-b -u' + daily_status_security_chksetuid_enable=YES + daily_status_security_chkmounts_enable=YES + daily_status_security_chkuid0_enable=YES + daily_status_security_passwdless_enable=YES + daily_status_security_logincheck_enable=YES + daily_status_security_ipfwdenied_enable=YES + daily_status_security_ipfdenied_enable=YES + daily_status_security_pfdenied_enable=YES + daily_status_security_ipfwlimit_enable=YES + daily_status_security_ipf6denied_enable=YES + daily_status_security_kernelmsg_enable=YES + daily_status_security_loginfail_enable=YES + daily_status_security_tcpwrap_enable=YES + weekly_output=root + weekly_show_success=YES + weekly_show_info=YES + weekly_show_badconfig=NO + weekly_locate_enable=YES + weekly_whatis_enable=YES + weekly_catman_enable=NO + weekly_noid_enable=NO + weekly_noid_dirs=/ + weekly_status_pkg_enable=NO + pkg_version=pkg_version + pkg_version_index=/usr/ports/INDEX-8 + weekly_local=/etc/weekly.local + monthly_output=root + monthly_show_success=YES + monthly_show_info=YES + monthly_show_badconfig=NO + monthly_accounting_enable=YES + monthly_local=/etc/monthly.local + [ -z '' ] + source_periodic_confs_defined=yes + source_periodic_confs + local i sourced_files + sourced_files=:/etc/periodic.conf: + [ -r /etc/periodic.conf ] + . /etc/periodic.conf + daily_status_mail_rejects_enable=NO + daily_status_mail_rejects_logs=0 + daily_status_mail_rejects_shorten=NO + sourced_files=:/etc/periodic.conf::/etc/periodic.conf.local: + [ -r /etc/periodic.conf.local ] + shorten=cat + rc=0 + exit 0 constellation# -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 21:14:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A363D106566C for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD2C8FC22 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:14:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24452 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2010 20:46:23 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO april.telenix.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 28 Jul 2010 20:46:23 -0000 Message-ID: <4C509728.2040008@telenix.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:46:32 -0400 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090121) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale Scott References: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <62ff4ba92a711128d74c6319f09ade0c.squirrel@www.gull.us> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:14:24 -0000 Dale Scott wrote: > Personally, I enjoy our mascot Beastie, as well as the Beastie-influenced official logo. I also smile when I see Casper, Wendy andHotStuff. > However, I also accept there are individuals who understand these symbols differently than me, and that I may be alienating them to my > detriment. It seems consumer products need to be mindful of cultural > differences, is FreeBSD different? A larger community and increased OS market share wouldn't be all that bad, would it? > > I hope that those of you who believe in FreeBSD but with a personal conflict with the mascot or logo, > band together and propose a complementary alternate symbol. I don't > mean flooding the mail list (it's obvious we can do that on our own), > I'm talking about difficult time-consuming organization, lobbying, and > support gathering. For me, I hope Beastie endures forever - he our first and legacy mascot - but I also wouldn't object to one or two more officially sanctioned mascots and logos either. > > Dale Scott God, I rewrote this 4 times, because I need to be careful and correct here. First, there is no honest reason why people of differing opinions can't get along. If others have problems with me having my own beliefs, I won't force them to live my way, but they must respect my own choices too. The major point here, though, is a historical one: appeasement does not work, and even the attempt leads to problems. The point is, no sane person really believes that Beastie equates to devil worship, and I don't like the idea of letting crazies dictate my life. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 21:24:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D0A1065670 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358258FC17 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o6SLBduK094888; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:11:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id CSBJ7UrB4m46; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:11:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6SLBW3h094884; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:11:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4C509D04.2030403@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:11:32 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100504) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael W. Lucas" References: <20100728162043.GA51024@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> In-Reply-To: <20100728162043.GA51024@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache22 build problem: cgi disabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:24:52 -0000 Michael W. Lucas wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running a July 26 -current/amd64, both ports and userland, and it > seems that the newest apache22 doesn't build a lot of modules, such as > mod_cgi, mod_cache, etc. > > /var/db/ports/apache22/options includes (among other things): > > WITH_CGI=true > > make.conf defines only perl and sendmail.mc. > > The port's config.log shows: > > $ ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --enable-layout=FreeBSD --with-perl=/usr/local/bin/perl5.8.9 --with-port=80 --with-expat=/usr/local --with-iconv=/usr/local --enable-http --with-pcre=/usr/local --with-apr=/usr/local/bin/apr-1-config --with-apr-util=/usr/local/bin/apu-1-config --disable-authn-file --disable-authn-default --disable-authz-host --disable-authz-groupfile --disable-authz-user --disable-authz-default --disable-auth-basic --disable-charset-lite --disable-include --disable-log-config --disable-env --disable-setenvif --disable-mime --disable-status --disable-autoindex --disable-asis --disable-cgid --disable-cgi --disable-negotiation --disable-dir --disable-imagemap --disable-actions --disable-userdir --disable-alias --disable-filter --disable-proxy --disable-proxy-connect --disable-proxy-ftp --disable-proxy-http --disable-proxy-ajp --disable-proxy-balancer --disable-proxy-scgi --disable-reqtimeout --enable-so --enable-mods-shared=auth_basic auth_digest authn_file authn_dbm authn_anon authn_default authn_alias authz_host authz_groupfile authz_user authz_dbm authz_owner authz_default disk_cache file_cache dav dav_fs actions alias asis autoindex cern_meta charset_lite deflate dir dumpio env expires headers imagemap include info log_config logio mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias version reqtimeout proxy_connect ssl --with-dbm=sdbm --with-ssl=/usr --disable-ipv6 --with-devrandom --with-mpm=prefork --prefix=/usr/local --mandir=/usr/local/man --infodir=/usr/local/info/ --build=amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0 > > There's a --disable-cgi in there, but no cgi listed after > --enable-mods. > > So, my FreeBSD options are set to enable CGI, but they aren't making > it down to the Apache build process. > > Am I doing something daft here, or should I file a PR? > > Thanks, > ==ml Not sure. Try something like: [12] Wed 28.Jul.2010 16:08:53 [kadmin@archangel][~] $cd /usr/ports/www/apache22 && sudo make show-modules | grep cgi cgi: enabled (shared) proxy_scgi: disabled cgid: disabled If "make show-modules" says "enabled" and the port still configures with "--disable-cgi", I'd definitely contact the maintainer and see what's up. My $.02, Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 21:32:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D2B1065672 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:32:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [74.1.12.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A528FC17 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:32:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 79673 invoked by uid 1008); 28 Jul 2010 22:54:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@74.1.12.115) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 28 Jul 2010 22:54:22 -0000 Message-ID: <4C50A1D6.7010803@el.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:32:06 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Macintosh/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C4FB661.5040903@el.net> <4C502CB6.1030007@comcast.net> <4C5058BD.3080301@el.net> <4C509B1B.1040200@el.net> In-Reply-To: <4C509B1B.1040200@el.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: vmware and freebsd 8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:32:09 -0000 for the record - if anybody's interested... http://communities.vmware.com/thread/249774;jsessionid=79E1617AEC857E6B51C29539AD294AC9?tstart=0 kalin m wrote: > > > so installed the open-vmware-tools-nox11 package... the vsphere ( the > client interface) detects it but it says VMWare Tools: Unmanaged. any > idea what that means? > > i did try to install from source off the sourceforge site without x > and some other stuff but it's broken..... > > thanks... > > > > kalin m wrote: >> >> awesome... thanks to all replies... i'll try the nox11 also.. >> those machines are only intended as servers so guis are not >> necessary... thanks... >> >> >> >> Kevin Wilcox wrote: >>> On 28 July 2010 09:12, Steve Polyack wrote: >>> >>> >>>> We've always used the open-vm-tools port >>>> (/usr/ports/emulators/open-vm-tools-nox11). There is both an x11 and >>>> "nox11" version, both of which work very well. It also includes a >>>> handful >>>> of other drivers and modules, including the memory balloon driver. >>>> >>>> If you only intend on using the vmware-guestd, vmxnet, and/or vmmemctl >>>> (memory ballon driver), then you can build with "-DWITHOUT_DNET >>>> -DWITHOUT_ICU -DWITHOUT_FUSE" to eliminate a few more dependencies. >>>> >>> >>> Steve - that's excellent advice. I'll try out open-vm-tools-nox11 on >>> one of my VMs this afternoon and see how it goes. Thanks!! >>> >>> kmw >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 21:32:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018921065689 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:32:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CA58FC23 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:32:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so5627639wyj.13 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:32:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IjBaKjnRrbIr0Ct6O6Ic67KTqYryfvVWMlsgttsZVC4=; b=tKtgsewPrp+n+FX21UcUvp5X8fTnLVeO1nGFjj9rHK8a438Pj+bX7+qa4svSSK1g1N B9wR0o59UTO2mM6BEMWk64aEdgm+Ui10sth7URriPk75V5RSn+al/E5KZ7ROtelhviwr VVy0wjuAWMKWswmuLsjji/cKQ4N5kziRBYaV0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=K+eabnnXJolAmV5VVtbzo+K4bxGfB21lMkbaoz7Lt+kXRh6It1EUxXs2UwvF+xFXCb jv+Ymjrkj31UO6l9k/fldf7AMa/zSRGLsZLk4jnNj/OfN9ssAFUyWcIPzLRjazqhyqWX I4OP0MUkVcA1cqzjsoiRPM3q475jQ0YG9K10Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.158.13 with SMTP id p13mr11314475wek.58.1280352758396; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.22.68 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:32:38 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: isc-dhcp leasing wrong IP's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:32:40 -0000 Hello guys, I have a F-BSD 8.0 box running isc-dhcp with the following simple config: authoritative; option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1; option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; default-lease-time 3600; max-lease-time 86400; ddns-update-style none; subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 192.168.0.10 192.168.0.150; option routers 192.168.0.1; } as you can see, the lease range is between 192.168.0.10 and 192.168.0.150 but for some reason, another BSD box always gets 192.168.0.8. I can't explain this since this is the only DHCP server on the network and I see no error logs. The other BSD box says: Jul 29 00:25:04 mainserver2 dhclient[1292]: DHCPREQUEST on sk0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 Jul 29 00:25:04 mainserver2 dhclient[1292]: DHCPACK from 192.168.0.5 Jul 29 00:25:04 mainserver2 dhclient: New IP Address (sk0): 192.168.0.8 Jul 29 00:25:04 mainserver2 dhclient: New Subnet Mask (sk0): 255.255.255.0 Jul 29 00:25:04 mainserver2 dhclient: New Broadcast Address (sk0): 192.168.0.255 Jul 29 00:25:04 mainserver2 dhclient: New Routers (sk0): 192.168.0.1 Jul 29 00:25:05 mainserver2 dhclient[1292]: bound to 192.168.0.8 -- renewal in 43200 seconds. It looks legit but still .. why is isc-dhcp handing out IP's ouside the lease range ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 21:59:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48BF41065670 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:59:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06CB78FC08 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:59:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emlpfilt2.waddell.com (emlpfilt2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F295092E for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:59:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from emlpfilt2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 3ABE1578995 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:59:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPHTCAS0.waddell.com (wadphtcas0.waddell.com [192.168.203.229]) by emlpfilt2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35373578994 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:59:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPMBXV0.waddell.com ([169.254.1.108]) by WADPHTCAS0.waddell.com ([192.168.203.229]) with mapi; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:59:34 -0500 From: Gary Gatten CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:59:34 -0500 Thread-Topic: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) Thread-Index: AcsumgJ8CINVSDBUQs+x4F3wmKm48gABdlfw Message-ID: <28959_1280354375_4C50A847_28959_646_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B4349968A910D1@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> References: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <62ff4ba92a711128d74c6319f09ade0c.squirrel@www.gull.us> <4C509728.2040008@telenix.org> In-Reply-To: <4C509728.2040008@telenix.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:59:46 -0000 Will someone PLEASE kill this thread! Moderator(s)? PS: Whomever wrote the comment a few posts back about calling support for "= Agnostix" and they always said "not enough information..." You sir are a f= reaking comedic GENIUS! G -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Robey Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:47 PM To: Dale Scott Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) Dale Scott wrote: > Personally, I enjoy our mascot Beastie, as well as the Beastie-influenced= official logo. I also smile when I see Casper, Wendy andHotStuff. > However, I also accept there are individuals who understand these symbol= s differently than me, and that I may be alienating them to my=20 > detriment. It seems consumer products need to be mindful of cultural=20 > differences, is FreeBSD different? A larger community and increased OS ma= rket share wouldn't be all that bad, would it? >=20 > I hope that those of you who believe in FreeBSD but with a personal confl= ict with the mascot or logo, > band together and propose a complementary alternate symbol. I don't=20 > mean flooding the mail list (it's obvious we can do that on our own),=20 > I'm talking about difficult time-consuming organization, lobbying, and=20 > support gathering. For me, I hope Beastie endures forever - he our first = and legacy mascot - but I also wouldn't object to one or two more officiall= y sanctioned mascots and logos either.=20 >=20 > Dale Scott God, I rewrote this 4 times, because I need to be careful and correct here. First, there is no honest reason why people of differing opinions can't get along. If others have problems with me having my own beliefs, I won't force them to live my way, but they must respect my own choices too. The major p= oint here, though, is a historical one: appeasement does not work, and even the attempt leads to problems. The point is, no sane person really believes that Beastie equates to devil worship, and I don't like the idea of letting crazies dictate my life. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 22:15:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23110106566B for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:15:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E938FC12 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o6SMFLEb001452 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:15:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o6SMFL4v001451; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA00882; Wed, 28 Jul 10 15:12:43 PDT Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:12:40 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: xxjack12xx@gmail.com Message-Id: <4c50ab58.PdAyNwN1wosbRuxp%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4C4DC4FA.6070400@antonioshome.net> <4C4F1B06.7020900@antonioshome.net> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:15:22 -0000 "Jack L." wrote: > Oh, they aren't on the freebsd package sites due to some of the > dependencies having licensing issues preventing it from being > built automatically (java). That's why there's a seperate site > for them. The 8.1 package collection on freebsd.org includes OOo 2.4.3. Unless OOo 3.x has added a java dependency that OOo 2.x did not have, it may just be a matter of OOo 3.x not having been added to the FreeBSD port system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 22:59:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273D21065677 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:59:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rrborg@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F285B8FC0A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:59:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5278 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2010 22:59:58 -0000 Received: from c-67-187-169-218.hsd1.ca.comcast.net (HELO [192.168.1.141]) (rrborg@[67.187.169.218]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 28 Jul 2010 22:59:58 -0000 Message-ID: <4C50B67D.9010305@speakeasy.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:00:13 -0700 From: Rocky Borg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <62ff4ba92a711128d74c6319f09ade0c.squirrel@www.gull.us> <4C509728.2040008@telenix.org> In-Reply-To: <4C509728.2040008@telenix.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:59:59 -0000 On 7/28/2010 1:46 PM, Chuck Robey wrote: > The point is, no sane person really believes that Beastie equates to devil > worship, and I don't like the idea of letting crazies dictate my life. So you're saying I shouldn't be ritualing sacrificing a chicken as "Carl Orff's - O Fortuna" plays in the background, while chanting all hail Beastie, as FreeBSD boots up each time? I really wish someone would of told me this sooner, why isn't this in the handbook!? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 00:20:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E95B106566C for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112698FC19 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj23 with SMTP id 23so1511810gwj.13 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:20:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=wlmCnNpOs4Tvstv9hkJAa7syUp2w0vTaN52DnC4oT/w=; b=RzJzXP9Z0HQ8o8wnNfFSQiFIwm0XGg0kQ8Ca/Mrj/engPZwW5o77cdzTE10X9lXhce FLJdYA3UcPKGd0hHFCpqGcQaozyUEPp+HspOBv2EoRs+z8HVYM0XTkQYI6O3xYnAdFQG sXW2mlqB7ABnJg1R/Y3wrx2T7ABwMAm7NZbQg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=mFraJ7Fsd6SMEXY/7A3PRIHXJeey6JghXV9ARd7+gBG+16aa8z7tP7xxvLcItrC9xh 6FfjmGsFkVlJQvO/P5UwCZ0jaytduIFhO8uJ+fNOnPbcHLfAtUzsbSa+uKLhlgw+nt6b /cEc9IihayqezN2heu77kyYtt5UI7hhwX2TLc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.74.8 with SMTP id w8mr42763aga.152.1280362800035; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.29.71 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:19:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6E8E399D-BC8C-4227-BA17-B265D09D4464@mac.com> <953FF5F8-19A6-4015-A640-7424802EF62F@mac.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:19:59 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Antonio Olivares Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: gmake not on install media FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:20:01 -0000 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > I would like to do this, but have no internet connection on my machine :( > > If I just download the file and pkg_add it, the dependencies might not be > there? > Correct, I suggest reading the handbook sections on ports and packages. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 00:26:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905661065676 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:26:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-announce@chthonic.com) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.freeshell.org [192.94.73.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B22B8FC08 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:26:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:ja@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.15]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6T0QnUG020353; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:26:49 GMT Received: (from ja@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.4/8.12.8/Submit) id o6T0QmkK027933; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:26:48 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: sdf.lonestar.org: ja set sender to freebsd-announce@chthonic.com using -f Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:26:48 +0000 From: "J. Altman" To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20100729002648.GA1937@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> References: <20100728152026.GA19185@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> <20100728160025.GA91164@slackbox.erewhon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100728160025.GA91164@slackbox.erewhon.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading to 8.1; Perl; and libgcrypt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "J. Altman" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:26:50 -0000 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 06:00:25PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 03:20:27PM +0000, J. Altman wrote: > > Greetings... > > > > I am looking at upgrading to 8.1 from 8.0 on an AMD64. > > In case you're upgrading from source, do not forget to delete the > archivers/xz port before doing a buildworld, else buildworld will > fail. Yikes; thanks for the heads up. I do upgrade from source. > I would advise you to use portmaster; > > 1) portmaster -o lang/perl5.12 lang/perl5.10 > 2) portmaster p5- > > That worked for me. Hmm...well, I've used portupgrade since 4.3, and have only wondered if switching is a good thing. I've not made time to learn that process. > If you are running a GENERIC kernel, you could use > freebsd-update. That is probably the fastest. My kernel is not GENERIC; so I'll just do a bunch of updates. Thanks for the help, and best regards, Joe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 00:46:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A522F106566B for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:46:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rbyrnes@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9F78FC16 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so2240527ewy.13 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:46:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=qdjVRvtSz79pOaDhbgzRuLZ6CgpoEDbsROB39MuXphg=; b=wPFLDd8/rK+mY5W+zATJu3eRHJOZPhKvCMXr5exXDeG1O84MTh6rM1npvTbmNgsgP4 TGnNdziUyyX3S6ssD3i4RiaSYyLe4NqLid2ALmkljs53Yig1Vcjl6OUekCO51nZKDPT8 hXv8IRFcPJ6wTIc6K/ou/ia9c9I5doC4yQORk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=YoMiaA076sfagjNsZNutu/+tmxfTbchGAuyRu/FHILO+EOJIh850xisLFtvYctuzfc 12u+78OIWSq6spam8KiRWn/7C8zhmE1Sxnt003zdD+3J2aOJrDSid2dCRqCXmW+ynOz1 ElBjJkyC3bRu+H4/zPuriNyBB4VLt0njwolMY= Received: by 10.213.27.68 with SMTP id h4mr6540451ebc.98.1280362829407; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:20:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.29.67 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:20:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Rob Byrnes Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:20:09 +1000 Message-ID: To: claudiu vasadi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: isc-dhcp leasing wrong IP's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:46:37 -0000 On 29 July 2010 07:32, claudiu vasadi wrote: > Hello guys, > > I have a F-BSD 8.0 box running isc-dhcp with the following simple config: > > > authoritative; > > option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1; > option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; > > default-lease-time 3600; > max-lease-time 86400; > ddns-update-style none; > > subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { > range 192.168.0.10 192.168.0.150; > option routers 192.168.0.1; > } > > > > as you can see, the lease range is between 192.168.0.10 and 192.168.0.150 > but for some reason, another BSD box always gets 192.168.0.8. > > I can't explain this since this is the only DHCP server on the network and I > see no error logs. > > The other BSD box says: > > Jul 29 00:25:04 mainserver2 dhclient[1292]: DHCPREQUEST on sk0 to > 255.255.255.255 port 67 > Jul 29 00:25:04 mainserver2 dhclient[1292]: DHCPACK from 192.168.0.5 > Jul 29 00:25:04 mainserver2 dhclient: New IP Address (sk0): 192.168.0.8 > Jul 29 00:25:04 mainserver2 dhclient: New Subnet Mask (sk0): 255.255.255.0 > Jul 29 00:25:04 mainserver2 dhclient: New Broadcast Address (sk0): > 192.168.0.255 > Jul 29 00:25:04 mainserver2 dhclient: New Routers (sk0): 192.168.0.1 > Jul 29 00:25:05 mainserver2 dhclient[1292]: bound to 192.168.0.8 -- renewal > in 43200 seconds. > > It looks legit but still .. why is isc-dhcp handing out IP's ouside the > lease range ? Had the other box received a lease from your DHCP server prior to implementing the range parameter? cheers, Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 01:27:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76AF81065672 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:27:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) Received: from exhub015-2.exch015.msoutlookonline.net (exhub015-2.exch015.msoutlookonline.net [207.5.72.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA6C8FC19 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:27:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (71.246.240.70) by smtpx15.msoutlookonline.net (207.5.72.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.254.0; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:17:12 -0700 Message-ID: <4C50D68E.4030907@p6m7g8.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:17:02 -0400 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: P6M7G8 Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Kinsey References: <20100728162043.GA51024@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> <4C509D04.2030403@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <4C509D04.2030403@daleco.biz> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigAED7F1D7B7D2FFEDF5D5FB28" Cc: questions@freebsd.org, "Michael W. Lucas" Subject: Re: apache22 build problem: cgi disabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:27:17 -0000 --------------enigAED7F1D7B7D2FFEDF5D5FB28 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 7/28/2010 5:11 PM, Kevin Kinsey wrote: >> There's a --disable-cgi in there, but no cgi listed after >> --enable-mods. >> The Mk/bsd.apache.mk disables every at the start of ./configure args. You should see ... --dsiable-cgi ... --enable-cgi or --enable-mods=3D...c= gi... It looks fine to me -- Its in the enable-mods-shared=3D"..cgi.." $ make -V CONFIGURE_ARGS -DWITH_CGI --prefix=3D/usr/local --enable-layout=3DFreeBSD --with-perl=3D/usr/local/bin/perl5.10.1 --with-port=3D80 --with-expat=3D/usr/local --with-iconv=3D/usr/local --enable-http --with-pcre=3D/usr/local --with-apr=3D/usr/local/bin/apr-1-config --with-apr-util=3D/usr/local/bin/apu-1-config --disable-authn-file --disable-authn-default --disable-authz-host --disable-authz-groupfile --disable-authz-user --disable-authz-default --disable-auth-basic --disable-charset-lite --disable-include --disable-log-config --disable-env --disable-setenvif --disable-mime --disable-status --disable-autoindex --disable-asis --disable-cgid --disable-cgi --disable-negotiation --disable-dir --disable-imagemap --disable-actions --disable-userdir --disable-alias --disable-filter --disable-proxy --disable-proxy-connect --disable-proxy-ftp --disable-proxy-http --disable-proxy-ajp --disable-proxy-balancer --disable-proxy-scgi --disable-reqtimeout --enable-so --enable-mods-shared=3D"auth_basic auth_digest authn_file authn_dbm authn_anon authn_default authn_alias authz_host authz_groupfile authz_user authz_dbm authz_owner authz_default cache disk_cache file_cache dav dav_fs actions alias asis autoindex cern_meta cgi charset_lite deflate dir dumpio env expires headers imagemap include info log_config logio mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias filter version reqtimeout ssl" --with-dbm=3Dsdbm --with-ssl=3D/usr/local --enable-v4-map= ped --with-devrandom --with-mpm=3Dprefork --prefix=3D/usr/local ${_LATE_CONFIGURE_ARGS} ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1024D/DB9B8C1C B90B FBC3 A3A1 C71A 8E70 3F8C 75B8 8FFB DB9B 8C1C Philip M. Gollucci (pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) c: 703.336.9354 VP Apache Infrastructure; Member, Apache Software Foundation Committer, FreeBSD Foundation Consultant, P6M7G8 Inc. Sr. System Admin, Ridecharge Inc. Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. --------------enigAED7F1D7B7D2FFEDF5D5FB28 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAkxQ1o4ACgkQdbiP+9ubjBw4QgCfdGjaXplNZL3K7Bg431KE3gl2 TJ0Anj/ggNUJyvL5+7sUO6X+bxS4yPSP =XtlJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigAED7F1D7B7D2FFEDF5D5FB28-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 02:04:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8AD106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:04:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37C88FC15 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:04:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6T24qiF056609 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:04:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:04:51 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. Cc: Subject: ok, i give up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:04:54 -0000 guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS ago. cannot find. it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii. things like # Bill's birthday: 08 08 echo "Send Bill a birthday card. # watch one-time broadcast!! 08 09 2010 echo: "Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours" i have forgotten the exact name of the ascii datafile and the calander program. can't find it in ports despite around 2.75 hours of "make search key=calender |grep -1 Info" | more .... I'm pretty sure i wasn't//am NOT hallucinating. --there was an X popuo when the date time was hit. i had to click on the Popup/dialog? to get rid of it. anybody know what this was? it goes back at least to the late 1990's. tia, y'all, gary PS: and now, time for a brew.... or maybe a =NAP=.... [************] -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 02:16:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A371065677 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ges+lists@wingfoot.org) Received: from wingfoot.org (caduceus.wingfoot.org [66.80.251.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6268FC12 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:16:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from caduceus.wingfoot.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F2139DC22; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:16:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at wingfoot.org Received: from wingfoot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by caduceus.wingfoot.org (wingfoot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10042) with ESMTP id T58LEm5Bm42x; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:15:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Sandal.local (ool-4353640b.dyn.optonline.net [67.83.100.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 666EB39DC1E; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:15:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C50E459.7020303@wingfoot.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:15:53 -0400 From: Glenn Sieb User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: ok, i give up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:16:03 -0000 On 7/28/10 10:04 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS > ago. cannot find. http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/remind Would it be Remind? Best, --Glenn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 03:37:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385681065678 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 03:37:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB7D8FC0A for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 03:37:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OeJjj-0006Vg-KB for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:24:48 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:37:27 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:37:27 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100729033727.GB69769@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="s/l3CgOIzMHHjg/5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Cc: Subject: Re: ok, i give up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 03:37:34 -0000 --s/l3CgOIzMHHjg/5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Gary Kline on Wednesday, 28 July 2010: > guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS > ago. cannot find. =20 >=20 > it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii. things like >=20 > >=20 > # Bill's birthday: > 08 08 echo "Send Bill a birthday card. >=20 > # watch one-time broadcast!! > 08 09 2010 echo: "Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours" >=20 > >=20 >=20 > i have forgotten the exact name of the ascii datafile and the calander > program. can't find it in ports despite around 2.75 hours of "make > search key=3Dcalender |grep -1 Info" | more .... >=20 > I'm pretty sure i wasn't//am NOT hallucinating. --there was an X popuo > when the date time was hit. i had to click on the Popup/dialog? to get > rid of it. >=20 > anybody know what this was? it goes back at least to the late 1990's. >=20 > tia, y'all, >=20 > gary >=20 > PS: and now, time for a brew.... or maybe a =3DNAP=3D.... >=20 > [************] >=20 >=20 /usr/ports/deskutils/when my favorite. I've written a lot of scripts to supplement it, too: http://chipstips.com/?tag=3Drbremindwhen --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --s/l3CgOIzMHHjg/5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMUPd3AAoJEIpckszW26+RPPAIAIWmJ/ce8STdYfl/TKtyMnoh rD4b+JWqrFRnUonXQl4pxkO34QZfyJtJklnvxzU95nrVrTmEGDmGOrojcXP2KZ23 Cg5S88Y6dQELKXz0A9PBPov/kmJ7ca5RLQhxgN2PnKjGnGI4j9CsA4ZEeM9iyC4u HDLlFs3XZyvbQju9Z7cRGRIyHRSs7DiA2+6d+ApHhkHKIdDOvAHOfHtt8z56A7ai o3Xc1J8y0ch/49ZsfB07jAsltTL803hokG3ikXpWqPRxDvbfSsmffXZiouxHSrRD dsjzipcE9hrb0saw7Y7XRq4CGdpeXyHFm7yAVphP6y0fvIdAY6eRQYuHhSQakH8= =vVeR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --s/l3CgOIzMHHjg/5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 04:59:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8441065675 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFD08FC18 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so104833wyj.13 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:59:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=icIXU/CfrN32DpmlM+DVGAXcS5GlKztePvhLsSybgf4=; b=e6jejW+rFA7ezEP14TMmZSjZfmFH2o2nmtGb/TTFqkDPJXyxBV/6p/0/pXnng1N5nG hJeOqpgN3keHnU0fasGzFSg1fnhPsu5dg5U5adCFvAi8QYGnxRkpWJIBU0rM+8xxM6lP xkwEwtX7tMnziqJMN+Os5kZZ0xuOZZrSEzXGU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=qC2MLLv9tclDacsruQyaqiOgZ5tagiLyebYkc06GZAp7A5b0huJ+kiRxUoDqI/LuQz WPT1Y/vFL5qrNPiXsek6jVSEfIjMPkbnbuCo+tyPs9GxVFyXO7QcQ6lV1G+hkjS7Ghqe DlIPrmHCMlO/2CmZ7ZSOrr+aHcjc1Fs1zTc8w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.148.79 with SMTP id o15mr11491442wbv.150.1280379550894; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.168.207 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:59:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6E8E399D-BC8C-4227-BA17-B265D09D4464@mac.com> <953FF5F8-19A6-4015-A640-7424802EF62F@mac.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:59:10 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Adam Vande More Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: gmake not on install media FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:59:12 -0000 Adam & others, I managed to get mplayer :) With your suggestions, I got mplayer-skiins mplayer-fonts and mplayer tbz's and am now in business :) Thanks to all who have suggested a fix. Now to get some other packages that I use on a regular basis. Regards, Antonio On 7/28/10, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Antonio Olivares > wrote: > >> I would like to do this, but have no internet connection on my machine :( >> >> If I just download the file and pkg_add it, the dependencies might not be >> there? >> > > Correct, I suggest reading the handbook sections on ports and packages. > -- > Adam Vande More > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 05:26:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F731065679 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:26:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F0D8FC12 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:26:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so116928wyj.13 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:26:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OZ4qnwJtNKO7aSxnEnSMVSkDha/RF+kpmGDJgraohm8=; b=LUno3jR/4ZMEMcOwilAfWbrwEf0FNKfRbviZXiGYOUtj+E7mHwljBvx203KK8RNrtJ OvDB2PUkroVo9mT9rGOzEMF/BWanNE7BGAr7/HbTp0RybjehLW/pwTLMZ8A7M4RrMlyn nfJ2ogitaZEfNiyi7fxpCJEe4+kZIJwvPSCOo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hWGXxTZpBQEaAu8nyRGCCWjup1lU5lZZwWSVuT5fszYNpuMMzOPTb4YeHzNV99TExw mn73CgfDMEJY/E+qlQDdTTf/Jqm33WktpKP6bNwRvZDSyfcmkv2p+DPtZHwACPitf9qN TnSBIgO8J5lc3GEiae4LwGApvDMGpeCgKselQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.133.131 with SMTP id q3mr350614wei.1.1280381178934; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.22.68 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:26:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:26:18 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Fwd: isc-dhcp leasing wrong IP's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:26:20 -0000 Hi Rob, No. It did not. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 06:34:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7251C106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonio@antonioshome.net) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5FF8FC18 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwa36 with SMTP id 36so462wwa.31 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.155.74 with SMTP id i52mr74454wek.26.1280384930900; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from antonio.localnet (247.pool85-49-219.dynamic.orange.es [85.49.219.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e8sm194551wej.22.2010.07.28.23.28.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C511F42.7050905@antonioshome.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:27:14 +0200 From: Antonio Vieiro User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100630 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C4DC4FA.6070400@antonioshome.net> <4C4F1B06.7020900@antonioshome.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:34:16 -0000 Ah, I see. I should learn about all those java licenses some day. I thought there was a free java somewhere. Thanks, Antonio On 28/07/2010 18:26, Jack L. wrote: > Oh, they aren't on the freebsd package sites due to some of the > dependencies having licensing issues preventing it from being built > automatically (java). That's why there's a seperate site for them. > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Antonio Vieiro > wrote: >> D'oh! Are those the official packages? pkg_add -r -v openoffice3 didn't work >> from the command line (that's why I posted this, just in case there're any >> other newbies reading this ;-)). >> >> Cheers, >> Antonio >> >> On 27/07/2010 17:15, Jack L. wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Antonio Vieiro >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> For those trying to test OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE (no >>>> official package yet): >>>> >>>> This: >>>> >>>> ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/3.2.1/i386/OOo_3.2.1_FreeBSD81Intel_install_es.tbz >>>> >>>> From >>>> ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/3.2.1/i386/ >>>> >>>> is working for me. >>>> >>> >>> Those are the official packages ;) >>> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 06:37:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594991065674 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:37:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31AA08FC15 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:37:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o6T6b0aT055800 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:37:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o6T6axnG055799; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA02154; Wed, 28 Jul 10 23:33:07 PDT Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:33:04 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: Ggatten@waddell.com Message-Id: <4c5120a0.+SbLx9Hd/K7W0mvz%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <62ff4ba92a711128d74c6319f09ade0c.squirrel@www.gull.us> <4C509728.2040008@telenix.org> <28959_1280354375_4C50A847_28959_646_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B4349968A910D1@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <28959_1280354375_4C50A847_28959_646_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B4349968A910D1@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:37:03 -0000 Gary Gatten wrote: > Will someone PLEASE kill this thread! Moderator(s)? Er, questions@ is not moderated ... You are, of course, welcome to add a rule to your procmail or whatever to delete these messages before you see them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 06:43:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20CE5106566B for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:43:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfl@robinlea.com) Received: from 28amen.org (28amen.org [204.3.153.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8883C8FC0A for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:43:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (118.172.78.25.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [118.172.78.25]) (authenticated bits=0) by 28amen.org (8.14.4/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o6T6hWgk086016 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:43:35 GMT Message-ID: <4C51230F.5090705@robinlea.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:43:27 +0700 From: John Francis Lee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: still no luck with ffmpeg 6_2_1 and FreeBSD 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:43:38 -0000 Hello, I have still been unable to run ffmpeg on my FreeBSD 6.3 server [jfl@28amen ~/www/robinlea.com]$ ffmpeg -i introduction.wav introduction.mp3 FFmpeg version 0.6, Copyright (c) 2000-2010 the FFmpeg developers built on Jul 28 2010 01:14:30 with gcc 3.4.6 [FreeBSD] 20060305 configuration: --prefix=/usr/local --mandir=/usr/local/man --enable-shared --enable-gpl --enable-postproc --enable-avfilter --enable-avfilter-lavf --enable-pthreads --enable-x11grab --enable-memalign-hack --cc=cc --extra-cflags=-I/usr/local/include/vorbis -I/usr/local/include --extra-ldflags=-L/usr/local/lib --extra-libs=-pthread --disable-debug --disable-sse --disable-mmx --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-version3 --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-version3 --enable-libdirac --enable-libfaac --enable-nonfree --enable-libfaad --enable-libfaadbin --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libspeex --enable-libtheora --enable-libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libx264 --enable-libxvid libavutil 50.15. 1 / 50.15. 1 libavcodec 52.72. 2 / 52.72. 2 libavformat 52.64. 2 / 52.64. 2 libavdevice 52. 2. 0 / 52. 2. 0 libavfilter 1.19. 0 / 1.19. 0 libswscale 0.11. 0 / 0.11. 0 libpostproc 51. 2. 0 / 51. 2. 0 Bus error: 10 (core dumped) I'm trying to make an internet language lab for kids here in Chiangrai. The tool I've found to record their voices over the wire (nanogong) creates .wav files, but flash and the rest of the world want .mp3 files to play back... and they're smaller. I need a way to convert .wav to .mp3 files, and ffmpeg is what I use on my linux at home... but I am having nothing but headaches with FreeBSD/ffmpeg on my ViaVerio server. Any help appreciated. Thanks. -- "This message may have been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA and/or the present government of Thailand without notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or recipient." John Francis Lee 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 07:52:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08B91065679 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:52:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bunchou@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556148FC1C for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:52:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so34029bwz.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:52:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yg3/ZDohzL4tCjdQPBZqAjcwPOXJIo41OH3V7y7AlY8=; b=R3mvMmgDb5lUdg4HqKhJpKdMZkB7pmUzzH8GiKeRHBzXi9P782AYvd4KjJXoeQxDl/ pnmpgSn74d2t2rEC4qTLpRGgCZmunc/+z6bKy53Z05zPgwNZPE39Hz/5Qlx91tp3coPL 4GQLUYQV9C3SmlO3lhNOmwt8uKq6qVtlVvspo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sXO/ll2tZVBl9wvMr8rlWIM4NyscaiEhX9ewG0JDVowkmd+mlwG2Xk3iuUqTMAYWs7 z+AmuH/+M3t2UYNpQEmDxPUahtbM8SEmZR58l8IpGArIHcxsT9p0UXTdeLsfKHS3L/pv UzacynElWkbMrZeJmG13liptOEeqmv6DT9tK0= Received: by 10.204.115.203 with SMTP id j11mr8732756bkq.147.1280389931085; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from centaur.5550h.net (p5DC266ED.dip.t-dialin.net [93.194.102.237]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a9sm395288bky.11.2010.07.29.00.52.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:52:07 +0200 From: "=?UTF-8?B?5paH6bOl?=" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100729095207.6a75d963@centaur.5550h.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <62ff4ba92a711128d74c6319f09ade0c.squirrel@www.gull.us> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:52:13 -0000 On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:55:04 -0600 Dale Scott wrote: > Personally, I enjoy our mascot Beastie, as well as the > Beastie-influenced official logo. I also smile when I see Casper, > Wendy andHotStuff. However, I also accept there are individuals who > understand these symbols differently than me, and that I may be > alienating them to my detriment. It seems consumer products need to > be mindful of cultural differences, is FreeBSD=C2=A0different? A larger > community and increased OS market share wouldn't be all that bad, > would it? >=20 > I hope that those of you who believe in FreeBSD but with a personal > conflict with the mascot or logo, band together and propose a > complementary alternate symbol. I don't mean flooding the mail list > (it's obvious we can do that on our own), I'm talking about difficult > time-consuming organization, lobbying, and support gathering. For me, > I hope Beastie endures forever - he our first and legacy mascot - but > I also wouldn't object to one or two more officially sanctioned > mascots and logos either.=20 >=20 > Dale Scott >=20 Personally, I tried to stay out of this conversion (because it's OT and I find all religions annoying). But, anyway, IIRC, the reason why our nice little beastie is no longer the official FreeBSD logo, is the sentiments you just mentioned. There was a discussion about this years ago on one of the mailing lists (I don't remember which one anymore), which resulted in a contest, and the result is the horned ball logo you find on the top of www.freebsd.org. This is also the reason why we have to add 'beastie_disable=3D"NO"' to /boot/loader.conf after a fresh install now. So, please, refrain from calling for yet another new logo. Best regards =E6=96=87=E9=B3=A5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 08:00:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF24106566C for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:00:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC5D8FC14 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:00:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o6T80rTp063277 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:00:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o6T80rtl063276 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA02407; Thu, 29 Jul 10 00:50:16 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:50:12 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4c5132b4.iGhnhIFH2rFImSpc%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Booting from floppy to install 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:00:53 -0000 I'm trying to solve a chicken-egg problem. I need to boot from floppy to install 8.1, and I don't already have a running 8.1 system on which to build a set of 8.1 floppy images. (The machine in question is an oldish Pentium-III that only boots from its hard drive or from floppy -- the BIOS claims it can also boot from its ATAPI Zip-250 drive but that capability doesn't seem to be working.) By comparing the contents of the 7.3 bootonly ISO and the corresponding floppy images, I've figured out how to construct _almost_ everything on the floppies from the contents of the bootonly ISO. The exception is the boot floppy's boot/loader, which is not the same as or obviously derivable from any file on the bootonly ISO including the ISO's boot/loader (which has changed between 7.3 and 8.1, else I'd feel reasonably safe about trying to use the 7.3 boot floppy's boot/loader file). So, in order of simplicity: Should I be able to do a network install of 8.1 using a 7.3 boot floppy set? (I'm not planning to set up zfs, at least initially.) If not, are the 7.3 and 8.1 boot/loader files similar enough that the boot/loader from a 7.3 boot floppy "should" work when all else in the floppy set is from 8.1? Is there a reasonable way to build the proper boot/loader file for an 8.1 boot floppy using a 6.x or 7.x system? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 08:04:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD1E5106567A for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:04:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfl@robinlea.com) Received: from 28amen.org (28amen.org [204.3.153.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0F18FC08 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:04:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (118.172.78.25.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [118.172.78.25]) (authenticated bits=0) by 28amen.org (8.14.4/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o6T84cYm020422 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:04:40 GMT Message-ID: <4C513611.6060305@robinlea.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:04:33 +0700 From: John Francis Lee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Fwd: still no luck with ffmpeg 6_2_1 and FreeBSD 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:04:42 -0000 I have lame on the machine, installed in the course of the installation of ffmpeg, and I can use that to convert from .wav to .mp3. Would have been nice to have a real ffmpeg available, but I can scratch my immediate itch this way, lame though I may be :) Thanks for your help. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: still no luck with ffmpeg 6_2_1 and FreeBSD 6.3 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:43:27 +0700 From: John Francis Lee To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Hello, I have still been unable to run ffmpeg on my FreeBSD 6.3 server [jfl@28amen ~/www/robinlea.com]$ ffmpeg -i introduction.wav introduction.mp3 FFmpeg version 0.6, Copyright (c) 2000-2010 the FFmpeg developers built on Jul 28 2010 01:14:30 with gcc 3.4.6 [FreeBSD] 20060305 configuration: --prefix=/usr/local --mandir=/usr/local/man --enable-shared --enable-gpl --enable-postproc --enable-avfilter --enable-avfilter-lavf --enable-pthreads --enable-x11grab --enable-memalign-hack --cc=cc --extra-cflags=-I/usr/local/include/vorbis -I/usr/local/include --extra-ldflags=-L/usr/local/lib --extra-libs=-pthread --disable-debug --disable-sse --disable-mmx --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-version3 --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-version3 --enable-libdirac --enable-libfaac --enable-nonfree --enable-libfaad --enable-libfaadbin --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libspeex --enable-libtheora --enable-libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libx264 --enable-libxvid libavutil 50.15. 1 / 50.15. 1 libavcodec 52.72. 2 / 52.72. 2 libavformat 52.64. 2 / 52.64. 2 libavdevice 52. 2. 0 / 52. 2. 0 libavfilter 1.19. 0 / 1.19. 0 libswscale 0.11. 0 / 0.11. 0 libpostproc 51. 2. 0 / 51. 2. 0 Bus error: 10 (core dumped) I'm trying to make an internet language lab for kids here in Chiangrai. The tool I've found to record their voices over the wire (nanogong) creates .wav files, but flash and the rest of the world want .mp3 files to play back... and they're smaller. I need a way to convert .wav to .mp3 files, and ffmpeg is what I use on my linux at home... but I am having nothing but headaches with FreeBSD/ffmpeg on my ViaVerio server. Any help appreciated. Thanks. -- "This message may have been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA and/or the present government of Thailand without notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or recipient." John Francis Lee 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 08:10:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC191065679 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454048FC20 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OeOBy-0002ki-Qj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:10:14 -0700 Message-ID: <29294063.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:10:14 -0700 (PDT) From: zaxis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20100728152026.GA19185@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: z_axis@163.com References: <20100728152026.GA19185@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> Subject: Re: Upgrading to 8.1; Perl; and libgcrypt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:10:15 -0000 >uname -a FreeBSD mybsd.zsoft.com 8.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Jul 1= 4 15:35:26 CST 2010 =20 root@mybsd.zsoft.com:/media/G/usr/obj/media/G/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL i386 >sudo env DISABLE_CONFLICTS=3D1 portupgrade -o lang/perl5.12 -f perl-5.8.\* >pkg_info |grep -i perl perl-5.12.1_1 Practical Extraction and Report Language >sudo portupgrade -fr perl Password: ** Makefile possibly broken: mail/thunderbird: =09grep: write error: Broken pipe =09thunderbird-2.0.0.24_1 =09 =09 /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:1473:in `get_pkgname': Makefile broken (MakefileBrokenError) =09from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:623 =09from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:614:in `each' =09from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:614 =09from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:588:in `catch' =09from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:588 =09from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:1310:in `call' =09from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:1310:in `parse_in_order' =09from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:1306:in `catch' =09from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:1306:in `parse_in_order' =09from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:1254:in `catch' =09from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:1254:in `parse_in_order' =09from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:1248:in `order!' =09from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:1241:in `order' =09from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:565:in `main' =09from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:791:in `initialize' =09from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:229:in `new' =09from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:229:in `main' =09from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:2213 What does this errror mean ? J. Altman wrote: >=20 > Greetings... >=20 > I am looking at upgrading to 8.1 from 8.0 on an AMD64. >=20 > As you know, Perl is now at 5.12 and requires a recursive dependency > rebuild; and so does libgcrypt. >=20 > This seems to be a rather extensive pair of updates. >=20 > Perl, while (IIRC) it is in the base system, is being reported as > needing an upgrade via portversion | grep '<'. I seem to recall > something that makes me think I am wrong here...that it's not in the > base system, maybe? >=20 > Is libgcrypt, perhaps, part of the base system? I suspect not. >=20 > I've read http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.1R/relnotes.html and > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.1R/relnotes-detailed.html and Perl > 5.12 is not mentioned as a part of 8.1. >=20 > Does this mean that an upgrade via /usr/src will not upgrade Perl to > 5.12? I suspect it does mean that Perl will not be upgraded from 5.10; > but I do hope that Perl will be upgraded to 5.12 via an update to > /usr/src. >=20 > I also can't remember if a recursive rebuild of all ports after an > upgrade across releases was ever recommended. For some reason, I think > I read that somewhere. >=20 > My point with these questions is to move toward 8.1 in the most > economical manner. >=20 > Thanks for any help, and best regards, >=20 > Joe > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20 ----- e^(=CF=80=E2=8B=85i) + 1 =3D 0 --=20 View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Upgrading-to-8.1--Perl-= -and-libgcrypt-tp29287828p29294063.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 08:33:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92D51065672 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:33:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928168FC18 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:33:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OeOY4-0001mm-6y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:33:04 +0200 Received: from 193.33.173.33 ([193.33.173.33]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:33:04 +0200 Received: from c.kworr by 193.33.173.33 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:33:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:32:55 +0300 Lines: 32 Message-ID: <4C513CB7.3090203@gmail.com> References: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.33.173.33 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; uk-UA; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100722 Thunderbird/3.0.6 In-Reply-To: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: ok, i give up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:33:05 -0000 29.07.2010 05:04, Gary Kline wrote: > guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS > ago. cannot find. > > it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii. things like > > > > # Bill's birthday: > 08 08 echo "Send Bill a birthday card. > > # watch one-time broadcast!! > 08 09 2010 echo: "Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours" > > > > > i have forgotten the exact name of the ascii datafile and the calander > program. can't find it in ports despite around 2.75 hours of "make > search key=calender |grep -1 Info" | more .... > > I'm pretty sure i wasn't//am NOT hallucinating. --there was an X popuo > when the date time was hit. i had to click on the Popup/dialog? to get > rid of it. > > anybody know what this was? it goes back at least to the late 1990's. man calendar? It can send mail if you want. It's also integrated into daily scripts. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 08:44:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8274F106566B for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198448FC12 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6T8iefK026333; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:44:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ED97ABAA4; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:44:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:44:39 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "J. Altman" Message-ID: <20100729084439.GA17153@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20100728152026.GA19185@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> <20100728160025.GA91164@slackbox.erewhon.net> <20100729002648.GA1937@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100729002648.GA1937@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading to 8.1; Perl; and libgcrypt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:44:43 -0000 --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:26:48AM +0000, J. Altman wrote: > > I would advise you to use portmaster; > >=20 > > 1) portmaster -o lang/perl5.12 lang/perl5.10 > > 2) portmaster p5- > >=20 > > That worked for me. >=20 > Hmm...well, I've used portupgrade since 4.3, and have only wondered > if switching is a good thing. I've not made time to learn that > process. Unlike portupgrade, portmaster doesn't rely on an extra database. It just u= ses the information in /var/db/pkg/. I find it easier to work with. Every week = or so, I use two commands to keep my ports up to date; 1) portsnap fetch update 2) portmaster -a -B -d Using portsnap is _much_ faster than using csup! Of course I check /usr/ports/UPDATING between step 1 and 2. And if I find something relevant = in UPDATING, I usually take care of that first. This has been a pretty much painless way to keep my ports updated. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxRP3cACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWZmgCfXDxl9sprjAwvdBlfdR0l7En/ +/UAnRy/fm4062qrzfj6BFz78nIsnSrG =3XLa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 08:54:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062241065676 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BA48FC14 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:54:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so56681fxm.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:54:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:newsgroups:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=i3VyMD6xyul5Cp7xgRv0liOYu6u+zXqVuxUgC69Bmxk=; b=EcypasFqkRP3xP4s5PJ8XykAA3hqWUY0Tqc3fspljXCwCdJqS0Wi6YEGPTRtgz9mm3 a+fdU5RnkN7UnoCwRUiqQtJWagz+sgPUuf0sOQYSISXH2GP+VnWhb8IOqFsu6jtD5o7Z B2kuiOswFiVhBeKXqNv9i+oanRz4YWPCF7+Oo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:newsgroups:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=kUJDyWmkxJbIkI5pLNIVCFn5d8d+3kVbIlxMWFiTxie/QvXph/mcr20SrmgI2NDMcT pOpvAjhdAh0EGJe/bsX5JOPBguth44CI5KgiU9Ok6Ng3if2judDI3DUibCmBlw2kb2+M 4fcY0Y+M9N5izdYo/FIC87MvwBLqcPxQ+EZlA= Received: by 10.223.120.82 with SMTP id c18mr11259705far.69.1280392378763; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from limbo.lan ([193.33.173.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m3sm211189fai.17.2010.07.29.01.32.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:32:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C513CB7.3090203@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:32:55 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; uk-UA; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100722 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions To: Gary Kline References: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: ok, i give up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:54:49 -0000 29.07.2010 05:04, Gary Kline wrote: > guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS > ago. cannot find. > > it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii. things like > > > > # Bill's birthday: > 08 08 echo "Send Bill a birthday card. > > # watch one-time broadcast!! > 08 09 2010 echo: "Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours" > > > > > i have forgotten the exact name of the ascii datafile and the calander > program. can't find it in ports despite around 2.75 hours of "make > search key=calender |grep -1 Info" | more .... > > I'm pretty sure i wasn't//am NOT hallucinating. --there was an X popuo > when the date time was hit. i had to click on the Popup/dialog? to get > rid of it. > > anybody know what this was? it goes back at least to the late 1990's. man calendar? It can send mail if you want. It's also integrated into daily scripts. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 09:08:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F054D106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:08:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1218FC12 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6T98SpP039288; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:08:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2B792BAA4; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:08:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:08:28 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: John Francis Lee Message-ID: <20100729090828.GC17153@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <4C51230F.5090705@robinlea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qbvjkv9qwOGw/5Fx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C51230F.5090705@robinlea.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: still no luck with ffmpeg 6_2_1 and FreeBSD 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:08:31 -0000 --Qbvjkv9qwOGw/5Fx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 01:43:27PM +0700, John Francis Lee wrote: > Hello, > I'm trying to make an internet language lab for kids here in Chiangrai. > The tool I've found to record their voices over the wire (nanogong) > creates .wav files, but flash and the rest of the world want .mp3 files > to play back... and they're smaller. I need a way to convert .wav to > .mp3 files, and ffmpeg is what I use on my linux at home... Try the audio/lame port. It's a high-quality mp3 encoder. In some countries you might need one or several patent licenses to use MP3 encoders. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3#Licensing_and_patent_issues Generally most people ignore these patents, I think. You might also want to look at the audio/vorbis-tools port. Generally Ogg Vorbis files are smaller than mp3. Also those tools and its format are not encumbered by patents. For the highest quality, use lossless encoding as used by audio/flac. AFAIK, pretty much all sound/multimedia playback programs available on Free= BSD and Linux support all these formats. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --Qbvjkv9qwOGw/5Fx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxRRQwACgkQEnfvsMMhpyU2cgCgr8YVNG10izehGUwDiXCqpati jQwAniwQ4v6PZq39O+FaR7uPUwQPnP4m =KJ04 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qbvjkv9qwOGw/5Fx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 09:12:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A591065674 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:12:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6727@bellsouth.net) Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net (fmailhost02.isp.att.net [207.115.11.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A0F8FC1B for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:12:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mueller6722.bellsouth.net (adsl-18-126-132.sdf.bellsouth.net[68.18.126.132]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc02) with SMTP id <20100729091243H020023re8e>; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:12:43 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.18.126.132] Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:14:25 +0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4c514671.eAS89s2T1SDVlo2N%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: perryh@pluto.rain.com Subject: Re: Booting from floppy to install 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:12:44 -0000 > Should I be able to do a network install of 8.1 using a 7.3 boot > floppy set? (I'm not planning to set up zfs, at least initially.) > If not, are the 7.3 and 8.1 boot/loader files similar enough that > the boot/loader from a 7.3 boot floppy "should" work when all else > in the floppy set is from 8.1? > Is there a reasonable way to build the proper boot/loader file for > an 8.1 boot floppy using a 6.x or 7.x system? I once net-installed FreeBSD using a boot CD from an earlier version; I think it was a disk one rather than boot-only. You have to specify the version to install as 8.1-RELEASE exactly as the ftp servers do; exactly as you would do with freebsd-update. If you use boot floppies, use only the two (or is it three?) needed to boot the install system. I never used zfs, don't have big enough hard drive or enough RAM to justify zfs. You could look into PLoP (http://www.plop.at/) boot manager: may be able to boot CD or USB even when BIOS does not support booting from CD or USB. My computer BIOS supports booting from CD but not USB; however NetBSD 4.0.1 installed on a USB stick booted from PLoP. There are various ways of running/installing PLoP, including installing on a floppy. You might possibly then be able to boot from CD or ATAPI Iomega Zip-250. If I were in your situation, my first choice would be net install, assuming you have cable or DSL; dialup would be awful slow. I have problems finding errorfree floppies: might be able to find two or three to boot, if I'm lucky, but no way could I find enough good floppies to accommodate all those .aa, .ab, .ac ... files. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 09:17:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB477106566C for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:17:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268B28FC17 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:17:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6T9HPFh084991; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:17:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9C1BBBAA4; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:17:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:17:25 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-ID: <20100729091725.GD17153@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <4c5132b4.iGhnhIFH2rFImSpc%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="P+33d92oIH25kiaB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4c5132b4.iGhnhIFH2rFImSpc%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Booting from floppy to install 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:17:28 -0000 --P+33d92oIH25kiaB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:50:12AM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > I'm trying to solve a chicken-egg problem. > Is there a reasonable way to build the proper boot/loader file for > an 8.1 boot floppy using a 6.x or 7.x system? Install 8.1 in an emulator like qemu or virtualbox to create the floppy ima= ges? Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --P+33d92oIH25kiaB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxRRyUACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWgVACgoPMgGES7hrVFgUXRAneVUmRJ t+EAmQE3smcUSl0Codms5VjcBleyDVX6 =DUEV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --P+33d92oIH25kiaB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 09:39:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA221065672 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfl@robinlea.com) Received: from 28amen.org (28amen.org [204.3.153.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F138FC1C for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:39:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (118.172.78.25.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [118.172.78.25]) (authenticated bits=0) by 28amen.org (8.14.4/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o6T9dKqU053542; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:39:21 GMT Message-ID: <4C514C42.8080805@robinlea.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:39:14 +0700 From: John Francis Lee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <4C51230F.5090705@robinlea.com> <20100729090828.GC17153@slackbox.erewhon.net> In-Reply-To: <20100729090828.GC17153@slackbox.erewhon.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: still no luck with ffmpeg 6_2_1 and FreeBSD 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:39:24 -0000 Thanks. I thought I had in knocked with lame, but the recorder I'm using, a java applet called nonogong from Hong Kong university, uses an imaADPCM, 4-bit format for its .wav files that lame chokes on. ffmpeg has no problem! But I cannot get ffmpeg to run on my ViaVerio FreeBSD server. The nanogong applet can also use speex, but I don't know how to play back speex. All this has to work in microsoft browsers because that's what everyone who has a computer has her in Thailand. As elsewhere I suppose, still. HTML 5 is coming... but not yet. And to microsoft kicking and screaming. If anyone knows of a way to convert 4bit imaADPCM .wav files to mp3 on a FreeBSD machine I'd be very happy to hear of it! Thanks for your help. On 07/29/2010 04:08 PM, Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 01:43:27PM +0700, John Francis Lee wrote: >> Hello, > >> I'm trying to make an internet language lab for kids here in Chiangrai. >> The tool I've found to record their voices over the wire (nanogong) >> creates .wav files, but flash and the rest of the world want .mp3 files >> to play back... and they're smaller. I need a way to convert .wav to >> .mp3 files, and ffmpeg is what I use on my linux at home... > > Try the audio/lame port. It's a high-quality mp3 encoder. In some countries > you might need one or several patent licenses to use MP3 encoders. See > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3#Licensing_and_patent_issues > Generally most people ignore these patents, I think. > > You might also want to look at the audio/vorbis-tools port. Generally Ogg > Vorbis files are smaller than mp3. Also those tools and its format are not > encumbered by patents. > > For the highest quality, use lossless encoding as used by audio/flac. > > AFAIK, pretty much all sound/multimedia playback programs available on FreeBSD > and Linux support all these formats. > > Roland -- "This message may have been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA and/or the present government of Thailand without notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or recipient." John Francis Lee 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 10:21:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E170C1065676 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:21:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF258FC2C for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:21:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6TAKvZ4025553; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:21:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 008C4BA7C; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:20:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:20:56 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: John Francis Lee Message-ID: <20100729102056.GA18997@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <4C51230F.5090705@robinlea.com> <20100729090828.GC17153@slackbox.erewhon.net> <4C514C42.8080805@robinlea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C514C42.8080805@robinlea.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: still no luck with ffmpeg 6_2_1 and FreeBSD 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:21:03 -0000 --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 04:39:14PM +0700, John Francis Lee wrote: > Thanks. I thought I had in knocked with lame, but the recorder I'm > using, a java applet called nonogong from Hong Kong university, uses an > imaADPCM, 4-bit format for its .wav files that lame chokes on. ffmpeg > has no problem! But I cannot get ffmpeg to run on my ViaVerio FreeBSD > server. You might want to talk to ViaVerio about updating your server to something less ancient (and unsupported) than FreeBSD 6.3! The 6.x branch is not supported by the ports tree anymore, which is probably why you're having problems with ffmpeg. > The nanogong applet can also use speex, but I don't know how to play > back speex. All this has to work in microsoft browsers because that's > what everyone who has a computer has her in Thailand. As elsewhere I > suppose, still. The speexdec(1) program from the audio/speex port can convert speex to wav. =20 > HTML 5 is coming... but not yet. And to microsoft kicking and screaming. >=20 > If anyone knows of a way to convert 4bit imaADPCM .wav files to mp3 on a > FreeBSD machine I'd be very happy to hear of it! The audio/sox port should be able to convert them, according to http://sox.sourceforge.net/Docs/Features=20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxRVggACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXxLgCeO7yJOmYZQVBNre3dUu8D9oVn lpkAoJqbxCevDD1pnkej3fEloTkeZ1e3 =aVSx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 10:49:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D56106567B for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rychoo@freeshell.net) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.freeshell.org [192.94.73.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EA68FC1C for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (6.ryb.abpl.pl [80.238.64.13]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6TAMrD7019554 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:22:54 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <20100729093935.75A961065696@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20100729093935.75A961065696@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9024067C-C785-4E99-8F92-5322707DC9ED@freeshell.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ryszard W. Czekaj" Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:13:03 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:49:03 -0000 Hi! I like this daemon. I'm using this daemon: http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm? fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=308365571&albumID=0&imageID=4021319 OS and computer are not religion. Or I'm wrong? Amiga vs Atari, daemon vs angel? RYCHoo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 08:25:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360B9106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:25:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from web57005.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57005.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AFE1D8FC27 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:25:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 81791 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Jul 2010 08:25:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1280391938; bh=+ALI/iPf6eUGHlcD1f6/+TRWJHpFHQlg+qPgRbjFcJg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FOdSjY7NxLUatkOOmGjdOmy512z+iMtuFZp9/V5iMGd1o/d/WyJShRMu0BIkg65lBd/iYmofmNhujoONWB0zlzHsl3ccRlB0eosKJusym3b9B7WkxYWtUqI1p54rD5bnUItI9oun5y1DTRgqLRp8sz4Ble1WJ36DJhxdSDq0PMA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gWAyn8/OPJNKtO7JyXEFE68ndfNPjznkmG6lSfnTq49GpuNMz+1PjXQIJvV6/dU9lgnYpL0n1hq27sMP7RBzr/CzrObUe3EhFfqd7EpdscBw9uRCSAFRlVbFPDWNkI5ZoR8CvdV8fd6X1L0u647mez9KR2rrPjux6ZFDd27Bxs8=; Message-ID: <929148.80489.qm@web57005.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: UE9wg_0VM1m1G1h0Y7X0ccmPficFSCybMMIMSnqPK5o.V8y HsxdfrU3FDAZy4jSvpoBLTYGrFqsaTq4zFDub6npGQ_syFYh6Nwb7Oh119io BC7OJl1kT6JPVbs.R7iQl0m3ZPRT70E9Zf9A1xEdm.VOJK4ZXkXG3TXrJ73j rDPXfn4rNaRRzo1V0ZvZ17PuTsewVuaLbFAfrvrqH1qJJdax_ZYpVYaV.b0E wty11_NE6KFN4c._c0_dL0lwtHROGbmc8Jj86w54hCVpmXPT9Q6.K Received: from [116.14.238.162] by web57005.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:25:38 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.2.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:25:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:16:16 +0000 Subject: How to mass recompile broken packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:25:40 -0000 Hi all I'm using FreeBSD 8.1 on i386 machine. I have upgraded a package using portmanager, but the upgrade seems not successful. The required package is upgraded but all packages depend on the upgraded package were not recompiled. I have two questions regarding this: 1. How to list all packages that are broken now? 2. How to mass recompile all broken packages? Best regards Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 11:26:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5862B1065672 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:26:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jozsi.avadkan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED5D8FC18 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:26:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so126030fxm.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:26:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:content-type :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FAy3jt1LS88bGnf1/E3vXte6ioi0OE6fp+X4HAFmadM=; b=BfrhDBFCMtjNeYuKvNlQTYvZOrk3MAK1ULu9YmSzQVmwLCdCPs//YsnJdkmI+Fk0Oq Bat/lZt/LOSBfI+/9qQtNbDbKWcxeEv3KnOQKyxfk+Khz6J4VAwKbQmCckqsys8bXZPs 3fdQk+wCXGpIl3KaMnxlIRiP9n6UkAOMN6F4c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; b=Ps/ZmbbLZnSdTm5dhZ+mKr8MpzEZatCc0jAV7Up74OBz4vqe2oKruyFxZBzjIbstWF 21DdySIbpi9bEuTDLLke2eq3mZyZPd7K5CXqwdcaZl+Ddf49qL7/dKIkFGGoZRV2RKCl 4ZSg3ctwYIXsPdHuIRyhYZXZUPO9PDvebhGu0= Received: by 10.223.122.146 with SMTP id l18mr11501303far.82.1280402794444; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:26:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.32.64] (mail.ahol.co.hu [80.64.64.126]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l19sm267527fap.33.2010.07.29.04.26.33 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:26:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Jozsi Vadkan To: FreeBSD Mailing list Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:26:19 +0200 Message-Id: <1280402779.4287.16.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: encrypt whole system using zfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:26:36 -0000 With dm_crypt&lvm, i can install a Debian [in sraid1], that has only the mbr & the "/boot" unencrypted. So if someone steals the server/hdds, it can't do anything to them. That's ok. I'm a newbie to FreeBSD, and I want to use it in the future. I'm looking for these "features", that i mentioned above. So, if someone has a little time, can someone post just a few howtos/links, how to do this? [i mean what is the "best-practise" for this? - to encrypt the whole system/data. And e.g.: the /boot & the mbr would stay unencrypted] e.g.: How to install a FreeBSD in encrypted ZFS [and ZFS does the mirroring instead of RAID-1] Thank you! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 11:34:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E006D106567B for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:34:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BFB8FC19 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:34:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so130037fxm.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:34:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:newsgroups:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=N5up7ZA8zDS0luSORPgqBnRyaWfi2hVvThqrS9d39cM=; b=sSwmti+FxU6HKjmwO+i52eWHzYiZ7dojS9xExqxVoGTJTMK3BU6c75cgCXaBnqDV6L 7OtFvWWA0FaDg9gNQbjqW1SogMrcwNofXW38qWAfhwJqhO28Hqborcl/qKe865wICVE1 7YasnoaElsdX1Doi0B7Jq4Djlx6ohzKqb5534= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:newsgroups:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=c9y8eodU73bueJgOo7aITNp+0NQ7cBf5VCFCjvJtNvFIn9Rnojso7qicWLWpYqIqBJ w7bNP3930//rGUpM/iLz4kD6261qiMgO7OBgNM197O5o1x3eWUbUVrIYA45d4OCI0isF uCo4MprlKDZwP96vlYbvRMIYyK7joUfEY1rvM= Received: by 10.223.126.84 with SMTP id b20mr11515658fas.98.1280403285294; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from limbo.lan ([193.33.173.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w11sm272129fao.13.2010.07.29.04.34.44 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C516751.5080307@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:34:41 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; uk-UA; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100722 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions To: Unga References: <929148.80489.qm@web57005.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <929148.80489.qm@web57005.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to mass recompile broken packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:34:47 -0000 29.07.2010 11:25, Unga wrote: > Hi all > > I'm using FreeBSD 8.1 on i386 machine. > > I have upgraded a package using portmanager, but the upgrade seems not successful. > > The required package is upgraded but all packages depend on the upgraded package were not recompiled. > > I have two questions regarding this: > 1. How to list all packages that are broken now? > > 2. How to mass recompile all broken packages? You will need to install libchk from ports. After that: libchk | grep '^Unresolvable' | sed 's|.* in: ||' | xargs -n1 pkg_info -W | sed 's|.*by package ||' | sort -u | grep -v '^[?]$' > rebuild You'll get 'rebuild' file listing all packages with broken binaries. You can use portmaster or portupgrade on it. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 11:34:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC7E1065675 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:34:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898F38FC13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:34:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OeRNz-0000Lo-4i for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:34:51 +0200 Received: from 193.33.173.33 ([193.33.173.33]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:34:51 +0200 Received: from c.kworr by 193.33.173.33 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:34:51 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:34:41 +0300 Lines: 24 Message-ID: <4C516751.5080307@gmail.com> References: <929148.80489.qm@web57005.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.33.173.33 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; uk-UA; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100722 Thunderbird/3.0.6 In-Reply-To: <929148.80489.qm@web57005.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: How to mass recompile broken packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:34:55 -0000 29.07.2010 11:25, Unga wrote: > Hi all > > I'm using FreeBSD 8.1 on i386 machine. > > I have upgraded a package using portmanager, but the upgrade seems not successful. > > The required package is upgraded but all packages depend on the upgraded package were not recompiled. > > I have two questions regarding this: > 1. How to list all packages that are broken now? > > 2. How to mass recompile all broken packages? You will need to install libchk from ports. After that: libchk | grep '^Unresolvable' | sed 's|.* in: ||' | xargs -n1 pkg_info -W | sed 's|.*by package ||' | sort -u | grep -v '^[?]$' > rebuild You'll get 'rebuild' file listing all packages with broken binaries. You can use portmaster or portupgrade on it. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 12:06:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C187D106566C for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonio@antonioshome.net) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616F98FC16 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwa36 with SMTP id 36so231037wwa.31 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.68.142 with SMTP id l14mr12057790wed.67.1280405199931; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from antonio.localnet (247.pool85-49-219.dynamic.orange.es [85.49.219.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v44sm391373weq.4.2010.07.29.05.06.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C516E6F.8070608@antonioshome.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:05:03 +0200 From: Antonio Vieiro User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100630 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:06:41 -0000 On 24/07/2010 04:01, Victor Skovorodnikov wrote: > [...] > I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get deterred by its un-Christian > logo. > [...] The logo means that all the people not trying out FreeBSD are going to go directly to hell after death. The logo is not un-Christian (The Devil is somewhere in the Bible), but many people are un-Christian, though. > Thanks, > Victor. Cheers, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 12:35:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9DF1065678 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:35:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars+lister.freebsd@adventuras.no) Received: from mail.adventuras.no (mail.adventuras.no [194.63.250.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A174A8FC08 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:35:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No X-Adv-Watermark: 1281010806.75475@RGAVSyBdSqjCXlvufViP0g X-MailScanner-From: lars+lister.freebsd@adventuras.no X-Adventuras-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.002, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, AWL -1.10, BAYES_00 -1.90) X-Adventuras: du kan filtrere etter AdvSpamScore over 5-10 X-Adventuras-MailScanner-ID: o6TCJrGQ062612 Received: from [10.11.32.249] (hjem [84.215.98.132]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.adventuras.no (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6TCJrGQ062612 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:19:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lars+lister.freebsd@adventuras.no) Message-ID: <4C5171E1.4040703@adventuras.no> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:19:45 +0200 From: Lars Kristiansen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; nb-NO; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jozsi Vadkan References: <1280402779.4287.16.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1280402779.4287.16.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing list Subject: Re: encrypt whole system using zfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lars+lister@adventuras.no List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:35:31 -0000 Den 29.07.2010 13:26, skrev Jozsi Vadkan: > With dm_crypt&lvm, i can install a Debian [in sraid1], that has only the > mbr& the "/boot" unencrypted. > > So if someone steals the server/hdds, it can't do anything to them. > That's ok. > > > I'm a newbie to FreeBSD, and I want to use it in the future. I'm looking > for these "features", that i mentioned above. > > So, if someone has a little time, can someone post just a few > howtos/links, how to do this? [i mean what is the "best-practise" for > this? - to encrypt the whole system/data. And e.g.: the /boot& the mbr > would stay unencrypted] > > e.g.: How to install a FreeBSD in encrypted ZFS [and ZFS does the > mirroring instead of RAID-1] > > Thank you! > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hi! The latest pcbsd does this. If you make a /boot partition, it will keep the keys there, and you may populate the geli encrypted area with zfs if you like. Even if pc-bsd is not your choice, an installation might be a nice tutorial in the subject. Regards, Lars From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 12:52:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A121065674 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:52:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E668FC1B for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:52:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6TCqiBL020144; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:52:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6F554BA7C; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:52:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:52:44 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Jozsi Vadkan Message-ID: <20100729125244.GA22971@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <1280402779.4287.16.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jI8keyz6grp/JLjh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1280402779.4287.16.camel@localhost> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Mailing list Subject: Re: encrypt whole system using zfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:52:47 -0000 --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 01:26:19PM +0200, Jozsi Vadkan wrote: > With dm_crypt&lvm, i can install a Debian [in sraid1], that has only the > mbr & the "/boot" unencrypted.=20 >=20 > So if someone steals the server/hdds, it can't do anything to them. > That's ok. They can wipe the harddrive and re-sell the machine or parts, which is what most thieves are interested in, I suspect. > I'm a newbie to FreeBSD, and I want to use it in the future. I'm looking > for these "features", that i mentioned above. IMHO, it is a bad idea to encrypt the standard OS data and files, because t= his potentially gives an attacker a lot of "known plaintext" to attack the encryption!=20 It is better to put your data (and only your data) on a separate partition = and encrypt that with geli(8). Also, read =A718.16.2 of the FreeBSD handbook th= at deals with geli encryption. > So, if someone has a little time, can someone post just a few > howtos/links, how to do this? Here you go: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/unix/encryption.xhtml Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxReZwACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUQDQCfdoWGrTpitMCEkiOuS+jGbbfC px8AoI1QbNBgl553LjjpLIzaBl/ykPdl =U9Ep -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 13:10:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA01A1065674 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:10:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E358FC1B for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:10:08 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtYFAFUaUUzUnw4U/2dsb2JhbACTNIxUcb9IhTgE Received: from outmx08.plus.net ([212.159.14.20]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 29 Jul 2010 14:10:07 +0100 Received: from helix.plus.com ([84.92.153.232] helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by outmx08.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1OeSsB-0002JD-9R for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:10:07 +0100 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OeSsB-0009hf-18 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:10:07 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:10:06 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201007291410.06875.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Problems with first attempts to use ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:10:10 -0000 Thinking that it's about time to learn a bit about ZFS I started with the tutorial at I'm currently running 8.1-RELEASE i386 with a generic kernel and 3 disk slices, each mirrored across 2 drives with gmirror. I appreciate the current configuration is far from ideal for ZFS but I could use a file based ZFS pool and the reduced performance shouldn't matter for a small learning exercise. Though it appears that running a disk based pool on a gmirror system was not a good thing. First I created a couple of file based pools: mkdir /disk1/z cd /disk1/z dd if=/dev/zero of=disk1 count=128 bs=1m dd if=/dev/zero of=disk2 count=128 bs=1m zpool create trout mirror /disk1/z/disk1 /disk1/z/disk2 zpool list zpool status trout That looked ok, the ZFS filesystem /trout was created and I was able to create data on it with dd if=/dev/zero of=/trout/foo count=32 bs=1m. The next step was to test it by overwriting the first disk label with random data dd if=/dev/random of=/disk1/z/disk1 bs=512 count=1 Then force ZFS to check with the zfs scrub command. zpool scrub trout At this point everything went pear shape, the whole system stopped and I finally had to force a reboot with a hard reset. On rebooting gmirror reported that all 3 slices on one of the drives were degraded and rebuilt them. Subsequent attempts to run zpool commands like list or status just lead to kernel panics followed by gmirror rebuilds on rebooting. How do I clear up this mess either by fixing the existing test ZFS pool or just getting rid of it so that "zpool list" returns the "no pools available" message instead of crashing the system. And, yes, I do have backups so I can restore any files which might be needed. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 13:59:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44DCE1065679 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:59:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05AFB8FC12 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:59:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywf9 with SMTP id 9so130349ywf.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:59:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cnqp327ATM45UTaV8F5orlsIjo+o4s+Oi3/mQxOdygM=; b=ONMnR/Y5fdL+YGvjzxVMg9Y3QE0rkrYH2CkpQ9kuo/CRvA/BIO1U8Jn7kMrSF6r9QC 3mZdaHa/RVlE4wqBvTgiuzaA/mLipkXVkfFJAzH3Ci7onqItwW34iYfpiMiSiT/I7dYj VTdrl44FQ5hsYcYifZb7DYnSfdF41TMR5WYKY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=d0PlpnH2TfiU+vkgzYpn8lgVl9rGTua61RTayIwkCJ/N+mfQAEAGH90is/+oiu2wng U7XCV88JkDDFSYNZLwCggjpzf7wm/5P2QpeSbHVRiIPomMTYCUE/8Q9W7n/OCuKGYgld 7zJmID5EOlAuw3aK+zzRlYbBz16xhwCtYUylE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.54.19 with SMTP id c19mr203540ana.71.1280411937313; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.15.73 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:58:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: booting install DVD while hard drive is in RAID mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:59:01 -0000 I purchased an HP Pavilion p6510f. I cannot boot either FreeBSD 8.1 (amd64) or OpenSUSE 11.3 Gnome Live CD unless I change the hard drive mode from RAID to IDE. Unfortunately, that damages my Windows 7 installation. (The computer is currently being restored to factory state.) Is there an option I can pass to the kernel to bootup the FreeBSD installation DVD while the hard drive is in RAID mode? Thanks, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 14:01:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867F71065672 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:01:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dak.col@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F2A8FC0C for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:01:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj23 with SMTP id 23so163561gwj.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:01:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=oBGfrXnPId3rGXJmPgQerd28oWTfnGIHYPyNny8wGGs=; b=fheVD8/DgxjxnUXaJEGJI9v7ZiITWMj3PqU6yAsPlEO3vhDyzXGCEozlGo6y/WOMdZ FCCHwGEz1hpYjR7+5uv1a0Ce8OB1WTYpOKrQ1vVFlDFDY9IBZL4NzaDTlyXAm9jdGitM OqaCClipqvxZ3RcAfwxgc4TF/jZ/avAoGLHc8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=WAvwynTDK8PAnoSpbndxgOLr3Qpo1ZDBuee2v7Mydz6IgtGj63TpS1+ijSvsuHZo11 9VOIGR/wLEFaUSu4S7xTMUjjv6tb/lB6Eal5+aemnm/mPWjqYpy9zrxi0kVdVGcTiTM5 jga1U8tJ2/XWAwhXIEttyQwcNmLcVa9t9/UNM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.98.10 with SMTP id v10mr859003agb.79.1280412099580; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.26.5 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:01:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:01:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: Diego Arias To: Andrew Gould Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: booting install DVD while hard drive is in RAID mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:01:43 -0000 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Andrew Gould wrote: > I purchased an HP Pavilion p6510f. I cannot boot either FreeBSD 8.1 > (amd64) or OpenSUSE 11.3 Gnome Live CD unless I change the hard drive > mode from RAID to IDE. Unfortunately, that damages my Windows 7 > installation. (The computer is currently being restored to factory > state.) > > Is there an option I can pass to the kernel to bootup the FreeBSD > installation DVD while the hard drive is in RAID mode? > > Thanks, > > Andrew > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Do you have a RAID? -- mmm, interesante..... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 14:31:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C46106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:31:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 390F88FC08 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 57464 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Jul 2010 14:31:01 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1280413861; bh=RnpQKUtqiDltxolozzS1hBNn8plzW+ccukEg3q/ym04=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XKS5w5yvgtxxkdlPmYU77L1BcYJqc5WgSWV9K3mUbdaTJsZ8wQNzq/Frg2mAMG/XXqvDf37lfUZEnBeww/S+Fqq0Gt9wLtGabxKjNGipBaebgxww9I1pj8nKu37fGzjcwLQZNIjVjwmPnLc/JR0vmr9ve1lTRnn5V3/5bSI4ZiI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pwOJp0AAt763qEUvmaJNqB08FkP5vJhttLbRQRjEa67g+9Jcd1zz0EJww0LDWqc+gD3C9Gkx9YhuO7nwzdQIHyXH43DSltCGI+ELvn9g/nOT1GdSRaL5QNSm31rbeeOcubtFZ4rZPAVVnDCvqKMEeHscOfGCD/9FKPnQb4nU0jo=; Message-ID: <523373.54704.qm@web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: x8qn1xUVM1k8msqnCoguvqDZS0R1QgzPvSvSqCUOYnoYh96 SeztICxvkDACWM8if0SoX3YH3bthuSsghJjuy1juRDco7qVhaDEaCLNWq2dn 6t9h3P2EX7IeT36aZhjHjgUz1vi49Pcui7tZZqzgu.w.w9zQmGP3APAM2X.G h3yKcT2CInjOCKi2N8FKmvCUwLatr0P2WBEKAy7iNX2xsxouNmvbq2LkT0cl .IfOJJeEw3dLhi7kGM9EC9b.Pjaq84O7Up3G3yHd5Oz2lMZJUel9VkIf5LLZ h7PkluEZ974m..MyLP.lpIoT4Zdsq Received: from [116.14.238.162] by web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:31:01 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.2.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:31:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga To: Volodymyr Kostyrko In-Reply-To: <4C516751.5080307@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to mass recompile broken packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:31:02 -0000 --- On Thu, 7/29/10, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > From: Volodymyr Kostyrko > Subject: Re: How to mass recompile broken packages? > To: "Unga" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 7:34 PM > 29.07.2010 11:25, Unga wrote: > > Hi all > > > > I'm using FreeBSD 8.1 on i386 machine. > > > > I have upgraded a package using portmanager, but the > upgrade seems not successful. > > > > The required package is upgraded but all packages > depend on the upgraded package were not recompiled. > > > > I have two questions regarding this: > > 1. How to list all packages that are broken now? > > > > 2. How to mass recompile all broken packages? > > You will need to install libchk from ports. After that: > > libchk | grep '^Unresolvable' | sed 's|.* in: ||' | xargs > -n1 pkg_info > -W | sed 's|.*by package ||' | sort -u | grep -v '^[?]$' > > rebuild > > You'll get 'rebuild' file listing all packages with broken > binaries. You > can use portmaster or portupgrade on it. > Hi Thank you very much for the reply. I have 63 packages effected. How do I sort the "rebuild" file in the dependency order because the first line itself the compilation fails. I used "portupgrade -f pkg". Best regards Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 14:41:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50731065670 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:41:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547438FC08 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:41:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywf9 with SMTP id 9so152513ywf.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:41:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=f/cuTwhYgozpjBHsNqwgR9gsoyFuJEk0SifnNrc0dE8=; b=x8EyWjS9kx8n1Kdm7RIcrYkwhTTwryRsGAyrwj3zExxQJnprJy5gwvbKLzNfmJSOHH PMAph9C+1RUOqlMB1gtAPIaGXlxPm5P0Fc0//lmrFTnIFc7mPS1cDiYQd8pJmCDWk3v4 ys3pwXufoRY5l6y751mX06e7M1IRz9DDXuKpM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=LrDZgMa5SCEv4ruwhEucwz/kUWok2tum2fbxVwfkHtomz8glNpXa5yfYEp5xoFTfMK mbh3fO2PgOyeBc0KOyI3l13jcE7Iwb19d3xYxOCi9TwAspBZUZxy5isGMn+/mMTSR1Iw J4ZNOpxV5zN8+rIF06+IhqndTSU59gSb9SMco= Received: by 10.100.209.8 with SMTP id h8mr144149ang.251.1280412930747; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ip98-163-115-74.dc.dc.cox.net [98.163.115.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c19sm1626222ana.22.2010.07.29.07.15.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:15:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:15:27 -0400 From: Bob Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100729141527.GA33867@stainmore> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Hall , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <62ff4ba92a711128d74c6319f09ade0c.squirrel@www.gull.us> <20100729095207.6a75d963@centaur.5550h.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20100729095207.6a75d963@centaur.5550h.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:41:32 -0000 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 09:52:07AM +0200, ?????? wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:55:04 -0600 > Dale Scott wrote: > > > Personally, I enjoy our mascot Beastie, as well as the > > Beastie-influenced official logo. I also smile when I see Casper, > > Wendy andHotStuff. However, I also accept there are individuals who > > understand these symbols differently than me, and that I may be > > alienating them to my detriment. It seems consumer products need to > > be mindful of cultural differences, is FreeBSD different? A larger > > community and increased OS market share wouldn't be all that bad, > > would it? > > > > I hope that those of you who believe in FreeBSD but with a personal > > conflict with the mascot or logo, band together and propose a > > complementary alternate symbol. I don't mean flooding the mail list > > (it's obvious we can do that on our own), I'm talking about difficult > > time-consuming organization, lobbying, and support gathering. For me, > > I hope Beastie endures forever - he our first and legacy mascot - but > > I also wouldn't object to one or two more officially sanctioned > > mascots and logos either. > > > > Dale Scott > > > > Personally, I tried to stay out of this conversion (because it's OT and > I find all religions annoying). But, anyway, IIRC, the reason why > our nice little beastie is no longer the official FreeBSD logo, is the > sentiments you just mentioned. There was a discussion about this years > ago on one of the mailing lists (I don't remember which one anymore), > which resulted in a contest, and the result is the horned ball logo you > find on the top of www.freebsd.org. This is also the reason why we > have to add 'beastie_disable="NO"' to /boot/loader.conf after a fresh > install now. So, please, refrain from calling for yet another new logo. Beastie is the mascot, and the sex toy is the logo. It is only the mascot that the OP objected to. He didn't mention any objections to the logo. As far as marketing products to a wide range of buyers, googling for "red devil" gets me Red Devil home repair and refinishing products Red Devil Italian Restaraunt Red Devil Equipment Co. Red Devil Lounge Red Devil Energy drink Red Devil snow blowers Red Devil hot sauce Red Devil Records Red Devil brakes Red Devil pedicab service Red Devil fire training and consuling You'll get a similar list if you google for "blue devil". So it seems that Beastie has lots of company out there in product land. Images of devils seem to be successful in marketing products. I don't believe that creating an alternative to Beastie is going to do anything to increase FBSD market share. My best wishes to the OP. I hope he finds something he's comfortable with. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 14:58:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE77106566B for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:58:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE858FC16 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:58:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o6TEvwOm022208; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:57:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o6TEvvrC022207; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:57:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:57:57 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Gary Gatten Message-ID: <20100729145757.GA22150@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <62ff4ba92a711128d74c6319f09ade0c.squirrel@www.gull.us> <4C509728.2040008@telenix.org> <28959_1280354375_4C50A847_28959_646_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B4349968A910D1@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <28959_1280354375_4C50A847_28959_646_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B4349968A910D1@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:58:34 -0000 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 04:59:34PM -0500, Gary Gatten wrote: > Will someone PLEASE kill this thread! Moderator(s)? This is an unmoderated list. ////jerry > > PS: Whomever wrote the comment a few posts back about calling support for "Agnostix" and they always said "not enough information..." You sir are a freaking comedic GENIUS! > > G > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Robey > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:47 PM > To: Dale Scott > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) > > Dale Scott wrote: > > Personally, I enjoy our mascot Beastie, as well as the Beastie-influenced official logo. I also smile when I see Casper, Wendy andHotStuff. > > However, I also accept there are individuals who understand these symbols differently than me, and that I may be alienating them to my > > detriment. It seems consumer products need to be mindful of cultural > > differences, is FreeBSD different? A larger community and increased OS market share wouldn't be all that bad, would it? > > > > I hope that those of you who believe in FreeBSD but with a personal conflict with the mascot or logo, > > band together and propose a complementary alternate symbol. I don't > > mean flooding the mail list (it's obvious we can do that on our own), > > I'm talking about difficult time-consuming organization, lobbying, and > > support gathering. For me, I hope Beastie endures forever - he our first and legacy mascot - but I also wouldn't object to one or two more officially sanctioned mascots and logos either. > > > > Dale Scott > > God, I rewrote this 4 times, because I need to be careful and correct here. > First, there is no honest reason why people of differing opinions can't get > along. If others have problems with me having my own beliefs, I won't force > them to live my way, but they must respect my own choices too. The major point > here, though, is a historical one: appeasement does not work, and even the > attempt leads to problems. > > The point is, no sane person really believes that Beastie equates to devil > worship, and I don't like the idea of letting crazies dictate my life. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > >
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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:00:19 -0000 29.07.2010 17:31, Unga wrote: >>> I'm using FreeBSD 8.1 on i386 machine. >>> >>> I have upgraded a package using portmanager, but the >> upgrade seems not successful. >>> >>> The required package is upgraded but all packages >> depend on the upgraded package were not recompiled. >>> >>> I have two questions regarding this: >>> 1. How to list all packages that are broken now? >>> >>> 2. How to mass recompile all broken packages? >> >> You will need to install libchk from ports. After that: >> >> libchk | grep '^Unresolvable' | sed 's|.* in: ||' | xargs >> -n1 pkg_info >> -W | sed 's|.*by package ||' | sort -u | grep -v '^[?]$' >>> rebuild >> >> You'll get 'rebuild' file listing all packages with broken >> binaries. You >> can use portmaster or portupgrade on it. >> > > Hi > > Thank you very much for the reply. > > I have 63 packages effected. > > How do I sort the "rebuild" file in the dependency order because the first line itself the compilation fails. I used "portupgrade -f pkg". You don't need that. portupgrade can handle it. Just give it the whole list: portupgrade -f `cat rebuild` -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 15:00:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296D91065709 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:00:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69B08FC21 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:00:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OeUaw-0004WS-Hn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:00:26 +0200 Received: from 193.33.173.33 ([193.33.173.33]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:00:26 +0200 Received: from c.kworr by 193.33.173.33 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:00:26 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:00:13 +0300 Lines: 40 Message-ID: <4C51977D.7060901@gmail.com> References: <4C516751.5080307@gmail.com> <523373.54704.qm@web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.33.173.33 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; uk-UA; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100722 Thunderbird/3.0.6 In-Reply-To: <523373.54704.qm@web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: How to mass recompile broken packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:00:28 -0000 29.07.2010 17:31, Unga wrote: >>> I'm using FreeBSD 8.1 on i386 machine. >>> >>> I have upgraded a package using portmanager, but the >> upgrade seems not successful. >>> >>> The required package is upgraded but all packages >> depend on the upgraded package were not recompiled. >>> >>> I have two questions regarding this: >>> 1. How to list all packages that are broken now? >>> >>> 2. How to mass recompile all broken packages? >> >> You will need to install libchk from ports. After that: >> >> libchk | grep '^Unresolvable' | sed 's|.* in: ||' | xargs >> -n1 pkg_info >> -W | sed 's|.*by package ||' | sort -u | grep -v '^[?]$' >>> rebuild >> >> You'll get 'rebuild' file listing all packages with broken >> binaries. You >> can use portmaster or portupgrade on it. >> > > Hi > > Thank you very much for the reply. > > I have 63 packages effected. > > How do I sort the "rebuild" file in the dependency order because the first line itself the compilation fails. I used "portupgrade -f pkg". You don't need that. portupgrade can handle it. Just give it the whole list: portupgrade -f `cat rebuild` -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 15:03:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC731065675 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:03:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA548FC12 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:03:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o6TF37FI022254; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:03:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o6TF37d4022253; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:03:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:03:07 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Bob Hall , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100729150307.GB22150@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <62ff4ba92a711128d74c6319f09ade0c.squirrel@www.gull.us> <20100729095207.6a75d963@centaur.5550h.net> <20100729141527.GA33867@stainmore> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20100729141527.GA33867@stainmore> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:03:43 -0000 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:15:27AM -0400, Bob Hall wrote: > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 09:52:07AM +0200, ?????? wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:55:04 -0600 > > Dale Scott wrote: > > > > > Personally, I enjoy our mascot Beastie, as well as the > > > Beastie-influenced official logo. I also smile when I see Casper, > > > Wendy andHotStuff. However, I also accept there are individuals who > > > understand these symbols differently than me, and that I may be > > > alienating them to my detriment. It seems consumer products need to > > > be mindful of cultural differences, is FreeBSD different? A larger > > > community and increased OS market share wouldn't be all that bad, > > > would it? > > > > > > I hope that those of you who believe in FreeBSD but with a personal > > > conflict with the mascot or logo, band together and propose a > > > complementary alternate symbol. I don't mean flooding the mail list > > > (it's obvious we can do that on our own), I'm talking about difficult > > > time-consuming organization, lobbying, and support gathering. For me, > > > I hope Beastie endures forever - he our first and legacy mascot - but > > > I also wouldn't object to one or two more officially sanctioned > > > mascots and logos either. > > > > > > Dale Scott > > > > > > > Personally, I tried to stay out of this conversion (because it's OT and > > I find all religions annoying). But, anyway, IIRC, the reason why > > our nice little beastie is no longer the official FreeBSD logo, is the > > sentiments you just mentioned. There was a discussion about this years > > ago on one of the mailing lists (I don't remember which one anymore), > > which resulted in a contest, and the result is the horned ball logo you > > find on the top of www.freebsd.org. This is also the reason why we > > have to add 'beastie_disable="NO"' to /boot/loader.conf after a fresh > > install now. So, please, refrain from calling for yet another new logo. > > Beastie is the mascot, and the sex toy is the logo. It is only the > mascot that the OP objected to. He didn't mention any objections to the > logo. Actually, the OP said logo and made no mention of mascott. I am the one way back in this thread that introduced the difference of BSDie mascot and round thing logo in this thread. I assumed the OP meant the BSDie mascot and proceeded in that direction. But, it is possible that the OP really did mean that sex toy than made him uncomfortable for religious reasons. I haven't heard my assumption corrected by him though. ////jerry > > As far as marketing products to a wide range of buyers, googling for > "red devil" gets me > > Red Devil home repair and refinishing products > Red Devil Italian Restaraunt > Red Devil Equipment Co. > Red Devil Lounge > Red Devil Energy drink > Red Devil snow blowers > Red Devil hot sauce > Red Devil Records > Red Devil brakes > Red Devil pedicab service > Red Devil fire training and consuling > > You'll get a similar list if you google for "blue devil". > > So it seems that Beastie has lots of company out there in product land. > Images of devils seem to be successful in marketing products. I don't > believe that creating an alternative to Beastie is going to do > anything to increase FBSD market share. > > My best wishes to the OP. I hope he finds something he's comfortable > with. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 15:14:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E971065674 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:14:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junklist@ukr.net) Received: from fsm1.ukr.net (fsm1.ukr.net [195.214.192.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F968FC1D for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:14:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.systemgroup.com.ua ([193.104.189.34] helo=[192.168.1.6]) by fsm1.ukr.net with esmtpsa ID 1OeUVf-000PgJ-TR for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:54:59 +0300 Message-ID: <4C519660.40100@ukr.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:55:28 +0300 From: junklist User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: upgrading from 6.3 to 7.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:14:54 -0000 Hello! I have a box running FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p15 and I would like to upgrade it to 7.3. As far as I know I cannot use freebsd-update to do this since it is not supported any more. so: 1. The only other way I can upgrade to 7.3 is using update from source, isn't it? 2. What upgrade sequence should I use: 6.3 -> 6.4 -> 7.0 -> 7.3 or 6.3 -> 6.4 -> 7.3 or even 6.3 -> 7.3 would work fine? 3. Will I be able to use freebsd-update with 7.3-RELEASE if build if from sources? Thank yo for your time and effort! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 15:19:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2422C1065678 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCE68FC20 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:19:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so200441gxk.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:19:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7F5bLtQM3zMKR2YNdx9tRS579yujczuGC+vxCrl0Q6E=; b=WwIDAO+C0+wc3MKrqRggRqC9erPmH55QpA7v8k4eGAN5AlczNdkb8HtiTp4BNCwaSs L9uh78YiTZ1k2GJ54aoz9wf98bBBoo/bsJZQc2S3PyTpgQD5QdfPZW2juzV3DKe09EJI 4t++Ane24wj/zlghierHFHR0jYkNktwlcJLAU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=k4GD4RqDq4R49eykyzuf85HM+k3kLgWXm2du2vQ/+YWOH36XPrNtBCm25rR1PcuCMT 93VoMA1BPffbk/dwxFhzp3XB8YiAad1wg5Tu/EuFOULUjbJu4QT9X/OBlxyiQO6B9VMp wxIwrrDRVsPccnQcdyZC3Dh5BmVZw1HMMTV6U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.17.31 with SMTP id u31mr1288818ybi.194.1280416744051; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.15.73 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:19:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:19:03 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Diego Arias , FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: booting install DVD while hard drive is in RAID mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:19:05 -0000 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Diego Arias wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Andrew Gould > wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Diego Arias wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Andrew Gould >> > >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I purchased an HP Pavilion p6510f. =A0I cannot boot either FreeBSD 8.= 1 >> >> (amd64) or OpenSUSE 11.3 Gnome Live CD unless I change the hard drive >> >> mode from RAID to IDE. =A0Unfortunately, that damages my Windows 7 >> >> installation. =A0(The computer is currently being restored to factory >> >> state.) >> >> >> >> Is there an option I can pass to the kernel to bootup the FreeBSD >> >> installation DVD while the hard drive is in RAID mode? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Andrew >> > >> > Do you have a RAID? >> > >> >> I don't have a RAID that I know of. =A0The computer came with Windows 7 >> Home Premium 64 and the hard drive set to RAID in the BIOS. >> >> The computer contains only one hard drive and one DVD writer. =A0The >> hard drive has 3 partitions: =A0a small partition, the OS partition and >> the recovery partition. > > Do you try restoring with IDE instead of RAID? > I don't think that will work. I've read online that you have to reinstall Windows to change modes. Restoring maintains the old Windows configuration. I've been told that *Ubuntu live CD's can boot on computers with RAID mode on. That's why I was hoping that there was a kernel option I could use at bootup. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 15:22:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F47106567C for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:22:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theultramage@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B288FC1B for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so298421bwz.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:22:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0FmhL4iNSW6BKPB9CckdZq2wl+MqRdwg+YEzM++bYrQ=; b=eyCsouOpgYKnwGR7P+7qfYeTv9dc68owGnsj6ujLhURbKLaTPB6E3Nv/Y1iFdz3U57 Yb1dppQNlAn8UpWiLP+5PUj4tg9+EBf+9gMhExhSZuBkVfj1vV/Ngy8F7nZOJ4fNSXwX OhcXk2fbTCFT8IB2zbAkKkQiZ812hcP6tF9Gk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cY5PVx79HWjUxF4YzzIAMzpW9R/JA/AihjGi2dw5I0r6fM9aKikj4y6l3bpm9iIwkA vqPlo+JVXzDzwe6Dd8XPg84BbbKWY364JryLfVOXSBquvwvRvH0lEixVjc2iWQO97aRR BTxdZ9wTql+QDf9ZHF0R91bxYQ6YBhbUiutIM= Received: by 10.204.81.130 with SMTP id x2mr104229bkk.210.1280415315601; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.31] (217-75-87-8.chassco.swan.sk [217.75.87.8]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 24sm687159bkr.19.2010.07.29.07.55.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C51964D.9090701@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:55:09 +0200 From: umage User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ipfw+natd startup order fixing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:22:33 -0000 Hi there, a few months ago I inquired about an issue where using ipfw+natd worked on 8.0 but produced errors in 8.1. After searching the bugs database, I found multiple reports about it - http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=conf/148137 and http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/148928. Both suggest manually loading ipdivert as a workaround, and fixing the rc scripts as solution. The offending changeset is http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/stable/8/etc/rc.d/ipfw?r1=196045&r2=203962, where natd was changed to be run as a post-cmd instead of a pre-cmd. According to svn, this defect has not been addressed in HEAD yet. I've tried modifying the rc scripts, so that natd becomes a dependency of ipfw - which ought to make it start. However, the rc script is marked as KEYWORD: nostart, which excludes it from the normal startup process and from the listing of 'services -r' (finally noticed this). So an alternative way to fix this would to make natd a standalone script, add a rc dependency, and remove the 'firewall_coscript' juggling in ipfw's rc script. What's the best way to get this problem fixed in svn? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 15:28:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8601065675 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:28:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from web57003.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57003.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 991788FC1C for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:28:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 47529 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Jul 2010 15:28:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1280417330; bh=/TqGuVDf7mqGhp1s/CQP66MGM7sXuPLMd/QTJfc3dbM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hYH6OsPqY0lf7bdZXw5j5niIogOkul0evNJWuP/owVACeHI5bdriXIF6ADw5sv7wRYLNgEzgKhQwHksErmD6Ghk1IGW7Rrz3XTsn80UTD4d7vmPJ4F9HYIJHYh3JhFNuHgSuefaIWR7HkdTW0PLIfHTKJLdgiP4VswwIFSXItmM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fIzGeBQxOh4G6jvMXYFj39k9W91EJd9q6SOWOXnRYzMyKmV3uu7kOXDxnFFcIk9sXoDra7zOQZJHtJ5/5rPg2Bk5UICGmv/5Ol+5Hv5eIc7wmnnOkDLkk7rviR30Gb15DRS75QO8u+kN/JkqPOX/UH8KfDeV8XLjXAY7fVUKFsc=; Message-ID: <842968.46346.qm@web57003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: dtmW2QIVM1k6v6VATcUOAmSpTTw43OHLtNiG8cnsXFyRcsJ l6z3Z88bPJczemT6sq5eiGyQwIHLMIGGHlERfzNLJVtlU6yONUeolaEnyz5z 6AId_VNLFvJFubtdZgezooJWNj5gQ6c6O9Wr7yRS2snwKKhnT4LJrC2_un0q ES_6x4lDvcLiVnkJbN.IgT0xpNT8QCuNCRgMi20JVQH38Px3GxPIUQT3fQsP Kyi68QS_Zoo66PtWjg3iNIVqnPKG2SDOaw7cwYG8UScMKwk38mTRuF.86RNZ l Received: from [116.14.238.162] by web57003.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:28:50 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.2.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:28:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga To: Volodymyr Kostyrko In-Reply-To: <4C51977D.7060901@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to mass recompile broken packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:28:52 -0000 --- On Thu, 7/29/10, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > From: Volodymyr Kostyrko > Subject: Re: How to mass recompile broken packages? > To: "Unga" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 11:00 PM > 29.07.2010 17:31, Unga wrote: > >>> I'm using FreeBSD 8.1 on i386 machine. > >>> > >>> I have upgraded a package using portmanager, > but the > >> upgrade seems not successful. > >>> > >>> The required package is upgraded but all > packages > >> depend on the upgraded package were not > recompiled. > >>> > >>> I have two questions regarding this: > >>> 1. How to list all packages that are broken > now? > >>> > >>> 2. How to mass recompile all broken packages? > >> > >> You will need to install libchk from ports. After > that: > >> > >> libchk | grep '^Unresolvable' | sed 's|.* in: ||' > | xargs > >> -n1 pkg_info > >> -W | sed 's|.*by package ||' | sort -u | grep -v > '^[?]$' > >>> rebuild > >> > >> You'll get 'rebuild' file listing all packages > with broken > >> binaries. You > >> can use portmaster or portupgrade on it. > >> > > > > Hi > > > > Thank you very much for the reply. > > > > I have 63 packages effected. > > > > How do I sort the "rebuild" file in the dependency > order because the first line itself the compilation fails. I > used "portupgrade -f pkg". > > You don't need that. portupgrade can handle it. Just give > it the whole list: > > portupgrade -f `cat rebuild` > Thank you very much again. The compilation is now progressing, it may take a while to complete. I'll update the you and the list on the outcome. Best regards Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 15:43:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E903B106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:43:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (asmtp2.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8A28FC14 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:43:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6TFhM34008650; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:43:23 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6TFhGhC008598; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:43:19 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 991AB33C3D; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:43:16 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:43:16 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20100729154316.GA14636@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: ok, i give up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:43:27 -0000 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 07:04:51PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS > ago. cannot find. > > it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii. things like > > > > # Bill's birthday: > 08 08 echo "Send Bill a birthday card. > > # watch one-time broadcast!! > 08 09 2010 echo: "Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours" > > > > > i have forgotten the exact name of the ascii datafile and the calander > program. can't find it in ports despite around 2.75 hours of "make > search key=calender |grep -1 Info" | more .... > > I'm pretty sure i wasn't//am NOT hallucinating. --there was an X popuo > when the date time was hit. i had to click on the Popup/dialog? to get > rid of it. > > anybody know what this was? it goes back at least to the late 1990's. > > tia, y'all, > > gary > > PS: and now, time for a brew.... or maybe a =NAP=.... > > [************] > deskutils/ical ? Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 15:53:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1886106567A for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:53:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC018FC16 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:53:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 68-189-245-235.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.245.235] helo=cube.entropy.prv) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OeVQF-000IHt-WD; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:53:32 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by cube.entropy.prv (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB899430FD3C; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:53:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C51A3F7.5010601@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:53:27 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grant Peel References: <10E4650A2BFB426791D24BE51450BEC0@GRANTPC> <4C4F7C72.9020502@FreeBSD.org> <3268CD1002ED434DA4DEA8DDCC7C6348@GRANTPC> In-Reply-To: <3268CD1002ED434DA4DEA8DDCC7C6348@GRANTPC> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why am I getting mail rejects? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:53:34 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Grant Peel wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Larkin" > To: "Grant Peel" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 8:40 PM > Subject: Re: Why am I getting mail rejects? > > > Grant Peel wrote: >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> I asked this a few days ago, and did not get a response. >>>> >>>> I have this in my /etc/periodic.conf: >>>> >>>> constellation# more periodic.conf >>>> # 460.status-mail-rejects >>>> daily_status_mail_rejects_enable="NO" # Check mail >>>> rejects >>>> daily_status_mail_rejects_logs=0 # How many logs >>>> to check >>>> daily_status_mail_rejects_shorten="NO" # Shorten output >>>> >>>> And have chnaged this in my /etc/defaults/periodic.conf: >>>> >>>> # 460.status-mail-rejects >>>> daily_status_mail_rejects_enable="NO" # Check mail >>>> rejects >>>> daily_status_mail_rejects_logs=3 # How many >>>> logs to >>>> check >>>> daily_status_mail_rejects_shorten="NO" # Shorten output >>>> >>>> And am still getting all the reject mail data showing in my daily >>>> periodic >>>> output. >>>> >>>> I am using FreeBSD 8.0 p#3 >>>> The mta is Exim 4.69_4 built from ports. >>>> >>>> What am I doing incorrectly? Why am I still getting all the mail >>>> reject log >>>> lines in my daily periodic output? >>>> >>>> -Grant > > Hi Grant, > > Please capture the output of the following command and post it somewhere > for viewing. This will display all of the shell commands executed by > the periodic script, and it may help someone here troubleshoot the > problem. > > sh -x /etc/periodic/daily/460.status-mail-rejects > > Regards, > Greg >> > Greg, Here is the output you suggested. (I have a /etc/periodic.conf, > but not /etc/periodic.conf.local). [...] Hi Grant, I presume that you saw the response from Daniel Bye (http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?23,113669,113860#msg-113860)? Since you have exim installed, it has its own version of the script, and you have to set its variables in /etc/rc.conf instead (defaults here): exim_status_mail_rejects_enable="YES" exim_status_mail_rejects_logs=2 exim_rejectlog="/var/log/exim/rejectlog" Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFMUaP30sRouByUApARAtPzAKC9xgpt2QDf7t9zPRhR/FBAaTaTzACffVPV E6b3qwqgqa2xwAGh0n2lmHg= =GEz6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 17:30:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FBA106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:30:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4918FC15 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:30:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-179-206.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.179.206]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E3F1E818; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:30:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o6THU3N2001513; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:30:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:30:02 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Antonio Vieiro Message-Id: <20100729193002.2c43fa34.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4C516E6F.8070608@antonioshome.net> References: <4C516E6F.8070608@antonioshome.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:30:05 -0000 On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:05:03 +0200, Antonio Vieiro wrote: > The logo means that all the people not trying out FreeBSD are going to > go directly to hell after death. No need to wait such a long time... :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 17:49:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBC51065674 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=819e591b1=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-001.utdallas.edu (ip-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD708FC19 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:49:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: None X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuYEAKZUUUyBbgog/2dsb2JhbACTNI1HwHCFOASEEw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,281,1278306000"; d="scan'208";a="36995517" Received: from zxtm01.utdallas.edu (HELO utd65257.utdallas.edu) ([129.110.10.32]) by ip-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 29 Jul 2010 12:20:25 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:20:24 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20100729150307.GB22150@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <62ff4ba92a711128d74c6319f09ade0c.squirrel@www.gull.us> <20100729095207.6a75d963@centaur.5550h.net> <20100729141527.GA33867@stainmore> <20100729150307.GB22150@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:49:06 -0000 --On Thursday, July 29, 2010 11:03:07 -0400 Jerry McAllister wrote: > > Actually, the OP said logo and made no mention of mascott. > I am the one way back in this thread that introduced the difference > of BSDie mascot and round thing logo in this thread. > I assumed the OP meant the BSDie mascot and proceeded in that > direction. But, it is possible that the OP really did mean > that sex toy than made him uncomfortable for religious reasons. > I haven't heard my assumption corrected by him though. > Well, I guess I'm old fashioned. I had no idea that was a sex toy, nor would I know how to use it. Anybody care to explain? :-) Oh, and the absolute best part of this never-ending thread has been the Agnostix, Atheistix, JeesuX back and forth. Had me rolling in the aisle several times. Now about that sex toy...... -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 17:59:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14782106567E for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:59:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994628FC18 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:59:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so403355ewy.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:59:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7SQZHE2K1d1Qz+67zU1i7H5S6L0CKxFJCt95r6MCgso=; b=W0cotMRhjL0uJUUy9Mmm8iA/ve5fC0GrTLla3y2bOPn5aNrc6QmZaF84DEvkOG4ke3 91RpigEFjBD4/2NFOeByT/Iw0A89Qs04F7isrynEwPZ63e3Q0cOpsNowInvlCOYMX2jf YGz1HvPmob40pqWXgAABAwy57ELA/3pIscvgo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WAkYi9jnenGEkaVA1ui/guHwV9A4npykXF1AB8xm5w5qS9wlH6MXvZhMvu+gTNuFTW 0gOHeeQp6aCW+z1HKkydCex4PKmrsJ5QGz3z0aLr86gleaoa7hkF70ZAdGMGW5avAJqb p5Nhs1Tfj0lCYX1dssssAomJRBztpNtCzlOlg= Received: by 10.14.1.142 with SMTP id 14mr505572eed.45.1280426362398; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v8sm1624854eeh.8.2010.07.29.10.59.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:59:12 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100729185912.3f964fbc@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <929148.80489.qm@web57005.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <929148.80489.qm@web57005.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How to mass recompile broken packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:59:33 -0000 On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Unga wrote: > Hi all > > I'm using FreeBSD 8.1 on i386 machine. > > I have upgraded a package using portmanager, but the upgrade seems > not successful. > > The required package is upgraded but all packages depend on the > upgraded package were not recompiled. I'm guessing you told portmanager to update a specific package. In that case it will just update that package and what it depends on. The normal way to use portmanager is to let it update everything. If you want to update piecemeal I would suggest using something else. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 18:24:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B01D1065673 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:24:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 685518FC08 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:24:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27253 invoked by uid 0); 29 Jul 2010 18:24:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 29 Jul 2010 18:24:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Y8CQ8ZhHntAg2MtBLEJ+9cRuiZ0d9jd+oD/W++RDYv/pV0c9BfLXADW2pvj4pGTF0nsN70DYp3Puns17gX5jR9DTkM6aa1TGxjAUeDnF9MEhZuMLCg6HnBkPicIdm0sW; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OeXmM-0003Z4-PP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:24:27 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:22:24 -0600 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:22:24 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100729182224.GA2804@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C516E6F.8070608@antonioshome.net> <20100729193002.2c43fa34.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100729193002.2c43fa34.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:24:28 -0000 --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:30:02PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:05:03 +0200, Antonio Vieiro wrote: > > The logo means that all the people not trying out FreeBSD are going to= =20 > > go directly to hell after death. >=20 > No need to wait such a long time... :-) No . . . before death, they're in Pergatory, being (hopefully) cleansed of their sins. If they never repent of those other OSes, though, *then* they go to Hell. =2E . . or something. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxRxuAACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWGegCeKArZ/MliCAiA1gyTguDjfSV8 GKUAn3kM+clCPiXZUkZTj9AT+nKsrw1A =o0vs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 18:35:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB871065670 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:35:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3918FC0A for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o6TIYpsY023055; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:34:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o6TIYnIs023054; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:34:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:34:49 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Paul Schmehl Message-ID: <20100729183449.GB22887@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <62ff4ba92a711128d74c6319f09ade0c.squirrel@www.gull.us> <20100729095207.6a75d963@centaur.5550h.net> <20100729141527.GA33867@stainmore> <20100729150307.GB22150@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:35:28 -0000 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:20:24PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Thursday, July 29, 2010 11:03:07 -0400 Jerry McAllister > wrote: > > > >Actually, the OP said logo and made no mention of mascott. > >I am the one way back in this thread that introduced the difference > >of BSDie mascot and round thing logo in this thread. > >I assumed the OP meant the BSDie mascot and proceeded in that > >direction. But, it is possible that the OP really did mean > >that sex toy than made him uncomfortable for religious reasons. > >I haven't heard my assumption corrected by him though. > > > > Well, I guess I'm old fashioned. I had no idea that was a sex toy, nor > would I know how to use it. > > Anybody care to explain? :-) > > Oh, and the absolute best part of this never-ending thread has been the > Agnostix, Atheistix, JeesuX back and forth. Had me rolling in the aisle > several times. Are you sure that was not the spirit moving in you. I am waiting for the testimony. > > Now about that sex toy...... > Anything with about any shape, usually with some bumps that can -- well, use your imagination! ////jerry > -- > Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst > As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions > are my own and not those of my employer. > ******************************************* > "It is as useless to argue with those who have > renounced the use of reason as to administer > medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson The problem is that reason has become narrowed and stylized in an unreasonable way since then. ////jerry > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 18:39:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7901065670 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:39:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818918FC0C for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:39:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OeXoH-0007Qt-QW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:26:27 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:39:09 -0700 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:39:09 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100729183909.GD72799@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C516E6F.8070608@antonioshome.net> <20100729193002.2c43fa34.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100729182224.GA2804@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100729182224.GA2804@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:39:15 -0000 --J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Chad Perrin on Thursday, 29 July 2010: > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:30:02PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:05:03 +0200, Antonio Vieiro wrote: > > > The logo means that all the people not trying out FreeBSD are going t= o=20 > > > go directly to hell after death. > >=20 > > No need to wait such a long time... :-) >=20 > No . . . before death, they're in Pergatory, being (hopefully) cleansed > of their sins. If they never repent of those other OSes, though, *then* > they go to Hell. >=20 > . . . or something. >=20 Thank Beastie and Chad (who was instrumental in my conversion) that I saw the light, after 20 years of serving the *real* devil: http://egomania.nu/gates.html --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMUcrNAAoJEIpckszW26+RunkIAKhmmOqPN2O69fQ9YqsX8Qv6 kZZgoD/7NWUFIOCeoNVNiqBtt2pQUp9oc+HG+OkK9o7GoTbi6j8fQcyNsjrSNiGh v0QqbBrBLmuDOzCdzviLFDcNJ4uh/oKVRAl/1lG3d75BI9c7QzUlvFkiO7AMR8o6 BstoGI3XMd7P/x9jjJEHgWtO3sLDC6nNGeuvx4qPorUFdFVivUSPwXsJz7WECcnL oIiqz+bvLoEUL+YAJM9E1Gpad5pcRAeneI9ZKyZ7G7L1bFs28AafSWYgoeXS13BZ P08Qcby8qXASgUmZ2cFP+EplsVizv3lGu0RcPpn4v3S6cIbruQg1FffvW0FtXJw= =wATi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 18:39:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED5F1065677 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:39:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1245E8FC1C for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:39:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o6TIdGZO023082 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:39:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o6TIdG5F023081 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:39:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:39:16 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100729183916.GC22887@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4C516E6F.8070608@antonioshome.net> <20100729193002.2c43fa34.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100729182224.GA2804@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100729182224.GA2804@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:39:53 -0000 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:22:24PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:30:02PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:05:03 +0200, Antonio Vieiro wrote: > > > The logo means that all the people not trying out FreeBSD are going to > > > go directly to hell after death. > > > > No need to wait such a long time... :-) > > No . . . before death, they're in Pergatory, being (hopefully) cleansed > of their sins. If they never repent of those other OSes, though, *then* > they go to Hell. Our church and most protestant churches do not accept purgatory. I think we would say that those of the other OSen are already in hell and those who have seen the light and are in a relationship with the true OS have been welcomed to the kingdom - here and now. ////jerry > . . . or something. > > -- > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 18:54:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688DB106566C for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:54:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F638FC16 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:54:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-179-206.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.179.206]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E0D1DF2B; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:54:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o6TIs6SY001726; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:54:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:54:06 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <20100729205406.62d66f91.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100729183916.GC22887@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4C516E6F.8070608@antonioshome.net> <20100729193002.2c43fa34.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100729182224.GA2804@guilt.hydra> <20100729183916.GC22887@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:54:08 -0000 On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:39:16 -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > Our church and most protestant churches do not accept purgatory. I do not accept the moon - it's just the backside of the sun. Also I don't accept gravity as its "effects" are just actions intended by "falling" objects to do something to annoy me. :-) > I think we would say that those of the other OSen are already in > hell and those who have seen the light and are in a relationship > with the true OS have been welcomed to the kingdom - here and now. It's called "hell on earth" (as depicted in D__M II). :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 19:05:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6A21065677 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:05:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A6E8FC0A for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywf9 with SMTP id 9so289372ywf.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:05:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.140.9 with SMTP id n9mr589564and.241.1280430343905; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:05:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi.localnet ([189.70.144.27]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x33sm1557036ana.13.2010.07.29.12.05.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:05:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:04:39 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.3 (FreeBSD/8.1-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.4.4; amd64; ; ) References: <20100729183916.GC22887@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20100729205406.62d66f91.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100729205406.62d66f91.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201007291604.39911.lobo@bsd.com.br> Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0000 On Thursday 29 July 2010 18:54:06 Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:39:16 -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > Our church and most protestant churches do not accept purgatory. > > I do not accept the moon - it's just the backside of the sun. > Also I don't accept gravity as its "effects" are just actions > intended by "falling" objects to do something to annoy me. :-) > > > I think we would say that those of the other OSen are already in > > hell and those who have seen the light and are in a relationship > > with the true OS have been welcomed to the kingdom - here and now. > > It's called "hell on earth" (as depicted in D__M II). :-) :D I'm starting to have fun with this ! -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winfoes FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 19:35:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD671065672 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:35:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6410E8FC17 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:35:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so556205wyj.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:35:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=wCm1WB6F7SAzYFF2t76N5F9SMdYBwjJ894J07FUagrg=; b=CHFMJSXM1nRs8EpY4ydf0ieR+euHqdXssAm1WVtzZ3wzfXOZpooLUhdimOHF8TxlKo xV1b/EhE1MAujDEHkLrEethm2bRiVhBMbERcPFsshEWsbny6C3PNdMUxuoWfjmgX5cRe HYhTsTP2BNo9ONHUOC17Uf/Mdx4256pFor4Xs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=KMgu1SGQIvGdqNZfsPmFlskLzU+KyFf2bqvce/ltIPwxk3pukfTQqnqdb4LCe6UlJg cbjZgOr00n+z6C2Uo2+Qc305NpC5RGtQ1SlcnTx8VPsCPZedeEyK3wsajACk9Ms5Otvc 9H81sVDOIckYs0T7iNSCOihZ64AB5xcpZtk1Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.157.70 with SMTP id a6mr596249wbx.163.1280432155256; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.168.207 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:35:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201007291604.39911.lobo@bsd.com.br> References: <20100729183916.GC22887@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20100729205406.62d66f91.freebsd@edvax.de> <201007291604.39911.lobo@bsd.com.br> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:35:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Mario Lobo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:35:59 -0000 I am having fun too! And I had seen the quote on the bible of the number of the beast: http://egomania.nu/gates.html How about the Koran/Quran? Does it have something like this? Does the Book of Mormon have something related? I don't want to ask a priest/pastor about Beastie :( But yes we are in difficult times and then the 2012 saga, will the world end? Thanks for sharing the fun :) Regards, Antonio On 7/29/10, Mario Lobo wrote: > On Thursday 29 July 2010 18:54:06 Polytropon wrote: >> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:39:16 -0400, Jerry McAllister > wrote: >> > Our church and most protestant churches do not accept purgatory. >> >> I do not accept the moon - it's just the backside of the sun. >> Also I don't accept gravity as its "effects" are just actions >> intended by "falling" objects to do something to annoy me. :-) >> >> > I think we would say that those of the other OSen are already in >> > hell and those who have seen the light and are in a relationship >> > with the true OS have been welcomed to the kingdom - here and now. >> >> It's called "hell on earth" (as depicted in D__M II). :-) > > :D > I'm starting to have fun with this ! > > -- > Mario Lobo > http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br > FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winfoes FREE) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 19:45:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9351065676 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:45:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1988FC08 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so567268wyj.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:45:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=hhW60iOcR+TxgrqXdZez9G6a4Qdk36mG7Wvki4kblhY=; b=gm7BoRoKddHYJ5Fd6RUfRJVeRfq4ozA/s9+V4rPIqUCPrxRI1lmW92Jdj/icQqxv0I uhrMz8ywyNrVDB6xt37A4mBfTletcFmO9JYqhrmLFhZNW2wbvaeAhOQseBF9ijrHfadc R9YsxpL6bW4FgEjJt5so6R5rP/adSSoMBqhbc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=SEqvLrBOBADf5KiwUyHnkx3ImBv8mY77ku/g1d2Jjn05bTZA7dgBQF3MeAw1O0h3vl bpI13Ag5AtZzOwsneqt5I0YrPmYoiW8kaAYGIsdOCgjCewiBXZF8YSJaSoPOJDtOv2ww PPKi+SYtMgFhkD7TxaRpTlVBKRDRgUHhWA3Vs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.156.85 with SMTP id v21mr636607wbw.157.1280432702339; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.168.207 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:45:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100729183449.GB22887@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <62ff4ba92a711128d74c6319f09ade0c.squirrel@www.gull.us> <20100729095207.6a75d963@centaur.5550h.net> <20100729141527.GA33867@stainmore> <20100729150307.GB22150@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20100729183449.GB22887@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:45:02 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Jerry McAllister Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Paul Schmehl , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:45:03 -0000 On 7/29/10, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:20:24PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > >> --On Thursday, July 29, 2010 11:03:07 -0400 Jerry McAllister >> wrote: >> > >> >Actually, the OP said logo and made no mention of mascott. >> >I am the one way back in this thread that introduced the difference >> >of BSDie mascot and round thing logo in this thread. >> >I assumed the OP meant the BSDie mascot and proceeded in that >> >direction. But, it is possible that the OP really did mean >> >that sex toy than made him uncomfortable for religious reasons. >> >I haven't heard my assumption corrected by him though. >> > >> >> Well, I guess I'm old fashioned. I had no idea that was a sex toy, nor >> would I know how to use it. >> >> Anybody care to explain? :-) >> >> Oh, and the absolute best part of this never-ending thread has been the >> Agnostix, Atheistix, JeesuX back and forth. Had me rolling in the aisle >> several times. Users have forgot about Slax, which is an AtheistOS according to some. How could they forget about it? > > > Are you sure that was not the spirit moving in you. > I am waiting for the testimony. > > >> >> Now about that sex toy...... >> > > Anything with about any shape, usually with some bumps that can -- > well, use your imagination! > > ////jerry > I am sorry but I am now confused, the BSD Logo : http://www.freebsd.org/layout/images/logo-red.png is the sex toy right? Because Beastie just has his pitchfork and it has no sexual connotations. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 19:49:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083E71065674 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:49:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00218FC1A for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:49:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6TJnMU1064759; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:49:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:49:21 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Glenn Sieb Message-ID: <20100729194921.GB97356@thought.org> References: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> <4C50E459.7020303@wingfoot.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C50E459.7020303@wingfoot.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: ok, i give up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:49:24 -0000 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:15:53PM -0400, Glenn Sieb wrote: > On 7/28/10 10:04 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS > > ago. cannot find. > > http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/remind > > Would it be Remind? > > Best, > --Glenn > i THOUGHT so, but nope... gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 20:08:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83653106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:08:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475EF8FC1A for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:08:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywf9 with SMTP id 9so319757ywf.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.164.5 with SMTP id m5mr749159ane.147.1280434106385; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi.localnet ([189.70.144.27]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q7sm2055274anf.26.2010.07.29.13.08.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:08:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:07:26 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.3 (FreeBSD/8.1-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.4.4; amd64; ; ) References: <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <20100729183449.GB22887@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201007291707.26539.lobo@bsd.com.br> Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:08:27 -0000 On Thursday 29 July 2010 19:45:02 Antonio Olivares wrote: > I am sorry but I am now confused, the BSD Logo : > > http://www.freebsd.org/layout/images/logo-red.png > > is the sex toy right? > > Because Beastie just has his pitchfork > Well, don't forget that sado-masochists would find tons of usages for the pitchfork, maybe even beastie's horns along with it :) -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winfoes FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 20:12:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB087106566C for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A0868FC0A for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:12:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so501302ewy.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:12:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.34.3 with SMTP id j3mr7726730ebd.81.1280434351385; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.5.11 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:12:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.28.174] In-Reply-To: <20100729194921.GB97356@thought.org> References: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> <4C50E459.7020303@wingfoot.org> <20100729194921.GB97356@thought.org> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:12:31 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: ok, i give up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:12:33 -0000 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:15:53PM -0400, Glenn Sieb wrote: >> On 7/28/10 10:04 PM, Gary Kline wrote: >> > guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEAR= S >> > ago. =A0cannot find. >> >> http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/remind >> >> Would it be Remind? >> > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0i THOUGHT so, but nope... > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0gary It can only be calendar(1), part of the base system. I was using it over 25 years ago already and ever since on all kinds of Unices: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dcalendar&apropos=3D0&sektion=3D0= &manpath=3DFreeBSD+8.1-RELEASE&format=3Dhtml > =A0Gary Kline =A0kline@thought.org =A0http://www.thought.org =A0Public Se= rvice Unix > =A0 =A0The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.p= hp > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://journey.thought.org =A099 44/100% Guaranteed N= ovel -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 20:19:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025CD1065687 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:19:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A15B8FC16 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:19:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6TKJO6t064957 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:19:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:19:24 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100729201923.GC97356@thought.org> References: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> <20100729033727.GB69769@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100729033727.GB69769@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. Cc: Subject: Re: ok, i give up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:19:26 -0000 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 08:37:27PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Gary Kline on Wednesday, 28 July 2010: > > guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS > > ago. cannot find. > > > > it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii. things like > > > > > > > > # Bill's birthday: > > 08 08 echo "Send Bill a birthday card. > > > > # watch one-time broadcast!! > > 08 09 2010 echo: "Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours" > > > > > > > > > > i have forgotten the exact name of the ascii datafile and the calander > > program. can't find it in ports despite around 2.75 hours of "make > > search key=calender |grep -1 Info" | more .... > > > > I'm pretty sure i wasn't//am NOT hallucinating. --there was an X popuo > > when the date time was hit. i had to click on the Popup/dialog? to get > > rid of it. > > > > anybody know what this was? it goes back at least to the late 1990's. > > > > tia, y'all, > > > > gary > > > > PS: and now, time for a brew.... or maybe a =NAP=.... > > > > [************] > > > > > /usr/ports/deskutils/when > > my favorite. I've written a lot of scripts to supplement it, too: > > http://chipstips.com/?tag=rbremindwhen > > -- > Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F > http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com Yup, this has to be it, altho i thought i was using this << 2003. i'll ck out your scripts, thanks muchly. gary ps: main thing i need it for is something like " */6 have you remmbered your meds! " or somesuch. sitting and hacking away, i tend to ferget everthing. somebody will find me here at computer, frozen, cobwebs and the whole bit. :) -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 20:19:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B144F1065676 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:19:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6528FC16 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:19:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj23 with SMTP id 23so357820gwj.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:19:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OrCsjcYqHZaCr1wT8niswGwvAjIJKrxrCy+Ce+Ba2ks=; b=MBDMyn4zJ8IkzrSXexFckbbSPp423HU9ugge/pzXLYOSDXDJkFbirDdDqCTb5PCu0+ Il4MTzjpZ6NuDE+sdrKHlxnnGY3IykZUWapMyxmq8DxkeGi4h+6PjxW/UAyiJO7nBZnq Kijl8ADqPliakRjwfad+t025NcdegQ+MavKpw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wDSqxVNuDN9JdjvXgwrIMs3NLKrAm9p0zbOwgt+eXxPZihWOoWQMKipifym63KrIAu S/it4mGNnZCVabs646Gubf7iUwrnxMrfjU9hI7Z5X6R7zEnEGOZN/QKINFlzqKcGTyIL 1pW2rKj+HGcGwgVCy5o98emai1supfDMQ9oZQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.119.18 with SMTP id r18mr1069686agc.92.1280433112536; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.100.6 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:51:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> References: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:51:52 -0300 Message-ID: From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: ok, i give up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:19:43 -0000 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS > ago. =A0cannot find. > > it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii. =A0things like > > > > # Bill's birthday: > 08 08 echo "Send Bill a birthday card. > > # watch one-time broadcast!! > 08 09 2010 =A0echo: "Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours" > > > > > i have forgotten the exact name of the ascii datafile and the calander > program. =A0can't find it in ports despite around 2.75 hours of "make > search key=3Dcalender |grep -1 Info" | more .... > > I'm pretty sure i wasn't//am NOT hallucinating. =A0--there was an X popuo > when the date time was hit. =A0i had to click on the Popup/dialog? to get > rid of it. > > anybody know what this was? it goes back at least to the late 1990's. > > tia, y'all, > > gary > > PS: and now, time for a brew.... or maybe a =3DNAP=3D.... > > [************] http://www.freshports.org/misc/birthday/ ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 20:22:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE2D1065674 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:22:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028848FC18 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:22:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OeZQD-0005lw-S1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:09:43 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:22:26 -0700 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:22:26 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100729202226.GA83694@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <20100729183449.GB22887@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <201007291707.26539.lobo@bsd.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201007291707.26539.lobo@bsd.com.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:22:32 -0000 --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Mario Lobo on Thursday, 29 July 2010: > On Thursday 29 July 2010 19:45:02 Antonio Olivares wrote: > > I am sorry but I am now confused, the BSD Logo : > >=20 > > http://www.freebsd.org/layout/images/logo-red.png > >=20 > > is the sex toy right? > >=20 > > Because Beastie just has his pitchfork=20 > >=20 >=20 > Well, don't forget that sado-masochists would find tons of usages for the= =20 > pitchfork, maybe even beastie's horns along with it :) >=20 =2E.. and what about that long tail with the potentially useful tip? --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMUeMCAAoJEIpckszW26+RcT8H+gNVPdwAM4UNDCd5G4h9yaFW lAM1Cd2+WeNDwdcZzxNv8C8SE31aMtJiDeh7ib17mjXTpn3//O0HzGjzaTTANNZS j2XpPrPClZFBmR7uSlaJxq7XEiCDyS3arAW+86Fr/jcOI/g8ku5ajBiEvS437lxG sJl55JoWyfVKm2Vx9H6mvR0/P15t6soNGzQo90CHdpOfv0fNvIV7RhxG4zGxgZH0 aRmZNog56QAsEwfRRUt5CgIMQdanhvLMsBjRBVp/fb0TeD7fIpldehtrpx2PoyES DZO4y/ldntYKcbeTWGQZxxGtIHD3Mih0X7GzPwH5XGZeWE/tsoKWGLgLdUpQnrg= =ogGV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 20:29:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA29106566C for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:29:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=819e591b1=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-002.utdallas.edu (ip-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDA48FC18 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:29:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: None X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuYEAC+BUUyBbgog/2dsb2JhbACTPY1HwRKFOASEEw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,283,1278306000"; d="scan'208";a="34627367" Received: from zxtm01.utdallas.edu (HELO utd65257.utdallas.edu) ([129.110.10.32]) by ip-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 29 Jul 2010 15:29:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:29:33 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <687DA855A76F906B57C2CF43@utd65257.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <20100729183449.GB22887@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <62ff4ba92a711128d74c6319f09ade0c.squirrel@www.gull.us> <20100729095207.6a75d963@centaur.5550h.net> <20100729141527.GA33867@stainmore> <20100729150307.GB22150@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20100729183449.GB22887@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:29:34 -0000 --On Thursday, July 29, 2010 14:34:49 -0400 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:20:24PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > >> --On Thursday, July 29, 2010 11:03:07 -0400 Jerry McAllister >> wrote: >> > >> > Actually, the OP said logo and made no mention of mascott. >> > I am the one way back in this thread that introduced the difference >> > of BSDie mascot and round thing logo in this thread. >> > I assumed the OP meant the BSDie mascot and proceeded in that >> > direction. But, it is possible that the OP really did mean >> > that sex toy than made him uncomfortable for religious reasons. >> > I haven't heard my assumption corrected by him though. >> > [clipped] > >> >> Now about that sex toy...... >> > > Anything with about any shape, usually with some bumps that can -- > well, use your imagination! > Ah. Now I see the problem. No imagination.... -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 21:11:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5281065677 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:11:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51208FC17 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:11:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so378487gxk.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.42.1 with SMTP id u1mr854246anj.135.1280437904833; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi.localnet ([189.70.144.27]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k11sm2130661ani.30.2010.07.29.14.11.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:11:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:10:38 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.3 (FreeBSD/8.1-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.4.4; amd64; ; ) References: <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <201007291707.26539.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20100729202226.GA83694@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <20100729202226.GA83694@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201007291810.38110.lobo@bsd.com.br> Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:11:46 -0000 On Thursday 29 July 2010 20:22:26 Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Mario Lobo on Thursday, 29 July 2010: > > On Thursday 29 July 2010 19:45:02 Antonio Olivares wrote: > > > I am sorry but I am now confused, the BSD Logo : > > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/layout/images/logo-red.png > > > > > > is the sex toy right? > > > > > > Because Beastie just has his pitchfork > > > > Well, don't forget that sado-masochists would find tons of usages for the > > pitchfork, maybe even beastie's horns along with it :) > > ... and what about that long tail with the potentially useful tip? Ahhhhhhhhh ! very observant, grasshopper ;) LoLx10E14 ! -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winfoes FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 21:15:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C689F1065674 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:15:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285BF8FC1E for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:15:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6TLFSKY037932 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:15:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C51EF69.3090605@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:15:21 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antonio Olivares References: <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <62ff4ba92a711128d74c6319f09ade0c.squirrel@www.gull.us> <20100729095207.6a75d963@centaur.5550h.net> <20100729141527.GA33867@stainmore> <20100729150307.GB22150@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20100729183449.GB22887@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0AC04B4A2BECC5CAA2476F9D" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Jerry McAllister , Paul Schmehl , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:15:40 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig0AC04B4A2BECC5CAA2476F9D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 29/07/2010 20:45:02, Antonio Olivares wrote: > I am sorry but I am now confused, the BSD Logo : >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/layout/images/logo-red.png >=20 > is the sex toy right? Someone really should *make* some of these -- polybutadiene rubber (you know -- like those super-bouncy balls) in translucent red. About 3--4cm in diameter. Would make an excellent freebie to hand out at conferences and the like. Cheers Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig0AC04B4A2BECC5CAA2476F9D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxR728ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwfyACfXz5ikETZLqljxvwVCCWSSI0G 3rsAn1dDt3z5Scqhvjw0/bTAWAZoS5+m =Jmh+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig0AC04B4A2BECC5CAA2476F9D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 22:08:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A18106566B for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kenneth.hatteland@kleppnett.no) Received: from asav3.lyse.net (asav3.lyse.net [81.167.37.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3268FC13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:08:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asav3.lyse.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4C3840E9 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:41:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at lyse.net Received: from mars.hatteland1.org (129.81-166-80.customer.lyse.net [81.166.80.129]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: kenneth.hatteland@kleppnett.no) by asav3.lyse.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D574840E5 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:41:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C51F59E.5070805@kleppnett.no> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:41:50 +0200 From: Kenneth Hatteland User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; nb-NO; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100722 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Upgraded cups - no cups printer in firefox after the upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:08:35 -0000 When updating the cups port my cups networked printer tends to fall out from firefox, epdfview etc. Last time I found a webpage with some cups related ports that had to be rebuilt for it to work. But I forgot to bookmark it. Now I can not find this page and I can`t piece together which ports it was by browsing in /ports/print Is there anyone that could drop me a hint ;) Kenneth, Norway From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 22:43:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6CA01065673 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:43:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonio@antonioshome.net) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569338FC13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so756274wyj.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.231.97 with SMTP id k75mr852500weq.4.1280443424166; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:43:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from antonio.localnet (29.pool85-49-210.dynamic.orange.es [85.49.210.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v11sm804627weq.40.2010.07.29.15.43.43 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C5203BF.3030209@antonioshome.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:42:07 +0200 From: Antonio Vieiro User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100630 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C51F59E.5070805@kleppnett.no> In-Reply-To: <4C51F59E.5070805@kleppnett.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Upgraded cups - no cups printer in firefox after the upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:43:46 -0000 This one? http://www.freebsdwiki.net/index.php/CUPS#CUPS_and_Gnome_Warning Cheers, Antonio On 29/07/2010 23:41, Kenneth Hatteland wrote: > When updating the cups port my cups networked printer tends to fall out > from firefox, epdfview etc. > Last time I found a webpage with some cups related ports that had to be > rebuilt for it to work. But I forgot to bookmark it. Now I can not find > this page and I can`t piece together which ports it was by browsing in > /ports/print > > Is there anyone that could drop me a hint ;) > > Kenneth, Norway > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 22:53:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DCFD1065675 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:53:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B09AA8FC12 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so645733fxm.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:53:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=NWlwBkYvd23mMn+2pJZFG9X5VKc4oN9iUn2oWQffwW8=; b=iBzJa+UObhH1hfWxpBKHQv8CcGshBNAPHHbxAUfqMjsPtK/U+dUsB73qh2vj5RIP0r csGidYQhGuKlnw702LvfbFUig/2DOahqBd6YpovvLu3PGhbmuCTbzNMTX19J7MT8Jiw4 Kp2Mc6cO4wB60F/RxWkkfmjOlH3KJngK+7MAQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=BwHbn3pqs2rFaLIUHDLh7FoPSOhOXutaHWm4r2eqEqzgQh8COhSm4zf0ckTn9x1dM5 8tcEb4H+ZDJfrH1iDxOJFNX5V6kxmv7SubAzUR2esK7P4y8ftsNk702zX4cAMOKorGFG +zKdMWxhv0KUuOtN47dv+GhL7rQrqF3WK/nt8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.186.1 with SMTP id e1mr44935hbh.126.1280444031380; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.163.13 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:53:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100729091725.GD17153@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <4c5132b4.iGhnhIFH2rFImSpc%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20100729091725.GD17153@slackbox.erewhon.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:53:51 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Roland Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Booting from floppy to install 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:53:53 -0000 On 29 July 2010 10:17, Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:50:12AM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > I'm trying to solve a chicken-egg problem. > > > Is there a reasonable way to build the proper boot/loader file for > > an 8.1 boot floppy using a 6.x or 7.x system? > > Install 8.1 in an emulator like qemu or virtualbox to create the floppy > images? > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) > as long as the version of the os supports the file system you want and the disk layout eg gpt you in theory can install any version of bsd from any other version of bsd. After all the main os install is just and extract of some tar balls. The only issue I can see might be the boot loader. But then you could chroot into the installed os and use the boot loader from there. I have definately installed a higher version of bsd than berfore but the versions numbers escape me From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 00:43:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883C2106568F for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:43:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39AC48FC17 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:43:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so479644gxk.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:43:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=902bCPYXpUrL0uYzi94PCmCqOv4wXwz9hYDrxr20vJU=; b=QvxGyCrAfAsPizRBhQMMtIU7R/mUhppCU5fOU1FxckWMgnEJrWMrGfrPfjWXjbJdqD Le+9g5LoDa7WVrMj9cjefJ1TM7M2I9NWnhB8r+WGSJJeGmZAS9DEbmEaNPHS0xYB/X21 eoCcFK1VGxmyfDGVW4z3tinU8Kyai9ewOl2R8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; b=TYO84u/eWiQh/MI30yAGDyC1pO8Qu8nIpTyvGLh2Z7RPtzP+iMjx4EO336/mJhJasG BhoYUULnZDssT7C111XgOUhzyRdZLNvvNTqrQEh8hHaVKZq+4EwkaQJWDsTUOspPmP5n Tjif7PwPF8E4E7aTh8CzggLKhzyRc/+AjdHAs= Received: by 10.151.4.9 with SMTP id g9mr2147233ybi.301.1280450581463; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ip98-163-115-74.dc.dc.cox.net [98.163.115.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h11sm195065ybk.5.2010.07.29.17.42.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:42:36 -0400 From: Bob Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100730004236.GA35170@stainmore> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Hall , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <62ff4ba92a711128d74c6319f09ade0c.squirrel@www.gull.us> <20100729095207.6a75d963@centaur.5550h.net> <20100729141527.GA33867@stainmore> <20100729150307.GB22150@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100729150307.GB22150@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:43:02 -0000 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:03:07AM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:15:27AM -0400, Bob Hall wrote: > > Beastie is the mascot, and the sex toy is the logo. It is only the > > mascot that the OP objected to. He didn't mention any objections to the > > logo. > > Actually, the OP said logo and made no mention of mascott. In that case, I'm glad I was able to contribute my share of misinformation and confusion to this thread. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 01:02:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A6B106567D; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:02:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from constellation.thenetnow.com (constellation.thenetnow.com [207.112.4.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E258FC23; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:02:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANTPC) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Oedzl-0003nb-MU; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:02:42 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Grant Peel" To: References: <10E4650A2BFB426791D24BE51450BEC0@GRANTPC> <4C4F7C72.9020502@FreeBSD.org> <3268CD1002ED434DA4DEA8DDCC7C6348@GRANTPC> <4C51A3F7.5010601@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:02:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why am I getting mail rejects? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:02:43 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Larkin" To: "Grant Peel" Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 11:53 AM Subject: Re: Why am I getting mail rejects? > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Grant Peel wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Larkin" >> To: "Grant Peel" >> Cc: >> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 8:40 PM >> Subject: Re: Why am I getting mail rejects? >> >> >> Grant Peel wrote: >>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>> >>>>> I asked this a few days ago, and did not get a response. >>>>> >>>>> I have this in my /etc/periodic.conf: >>>>> >>>>> constellation# more periodic.conf >>>>> # 460.status-mail-rejects >>>>> daily_status_mail_rejects_enable="NO" # Check mail >>>>> rejects >>>>> daily_status_mail_rejects_logs=0 # How many >>>>> logs >>>>> to check >>>>> daily_status_mail_rejects_shorten="NO" # Shorten >>>>> output >>>>> >>>>> And have chnaged this in my /etc/defaults/periodic.conf: >>>>> >>>>> # 460.status-mail-rejects >>>>> daily_status_mail_rejects_enable="NO" # Check mail >>>>> rejects >>>>> daily_status_mail_rejects_logs=3 # How many >>>>> logs to >>>>> check >>>>> daily_status_mail_rejects_shorten="NO" # Shorten >>>>> output >>>>> >>>>> And am still getting all the reject mail data showing in my daily >>>>> periodic >>>>> output. >>>>> >>>>> I am using FreeBSD 8.0 p#3 >>>>> The mta is Exim 4.69_4 built from ports. >>>>> >>>>> What am I doing incorrectly? Why am I still getting all the mail >>>>> reject log >>>>> lines in my daily periodic output? >>>>> >>>>> -Grant >> >> Hi Grant, >> >> Please capture the output of the following command and post it somewhere >> for viewing. This will display all of the shell commands executed by >> the periodic script, and it may help someone here troubleshoot the >> problem. >> >> sh -x /etc/periodic/daily/460.status-mail-rejects >> >> Regards, >> Greg >>> >> Greg, Here is the output you suggested. (I have a /etc/periodic.conf, >> but not /etc/periodic.conf.local). > > [...] > > Hi Grant, > > I presume that you saw the response from Daniel Bye > (http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?23,113669,113860#msg-113860)? Since > you have exim installed, it has its own version of the script, and you > have to set its variables in /etc/rc.conf instead (defaults here): > > exim_status_mail_rejects_enable="YES" > exim_status_mail_rejects_logs=2 > exim_rejectlog="/var/log/exim/rejectlog" > > Hope that helps, > Greg > - -- > Greg Larkin > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve > http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. > http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iD8DBQFMUaP30sRouByUApARAtPzAKC9xgpt2QDf7t9zPRhR/FBAaTaTzACffVPV > E6b3qwqgqa2xwAGh0n2lmHg= > =GEz6 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > I missed roberts reply, sorry, burried in my inbox. I have added the line and am sure it will work. Thanks all! -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 01:42:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA65106566C for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:42:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7438FC13 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:42:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E55A3A38A0; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:25:49 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1280453149; x= 1282267549; bh=Y7xGStmXsR/VYYNPAgGniVAWxaXI39SX6TuDWBB6Q+s=; b=b 9kFzFN9Y2CfYJZ0pM/gRFOp+kbn8WbkJ4jDqYaY032Y8ML+fAqYu8T9eJqFt/h9U KNdW7BPKbvaEVr6BweWxB13mvvmfGWBwtbW6qmm2Ke2wWdEMH2s1xZ/TlipyF7xO 3gzeqG/odwvnLUtSS2fsb2OSXp1MOji85wqAF/j9A8= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Rk-v1yoe6VZP; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:25:49 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1C963A3888; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:25:48 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o6U1PkYx002759; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:25:46 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:25:46 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <201007300125.o6U1PkYx002759@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: junklist@ukr.net In-reply-to: <4C519660.40100@ukr.net> (message from junklist on Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:55:28 +0300) References: <4C519660.40100@ukr.net> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrading from 6.3 to 7.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:42:04 -0000 Hi, > 2. What upgrade sequence should I use: 6.3 -> 6.4 -> 7.0 -> 7.3 or 6.3 I successfully upgraded 6.4 to 7.3 (sorry I don't have machine with 6.3 anymore) As I always upgrade from source, I cannot reply about freebsd-update. Best s, olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 02:13:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C47106567A for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:13:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424E18FC12 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:13:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o6U2Ddq2070664 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:13:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o6U2Dcbj070663; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA05585; Thu, 29 Jul 10 19:08:25 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:08:20 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: kline@thought.org, frank@shute.org.uk Message-Id: <4c523414.+6ssV66YESO4HEsi%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> <20100729154316.GA14636@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20100729154316.GA14636@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ok, i give up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:13:40 -0000 Frank Shute wrote: > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 07:04:51PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog > > than i had YEARS ago. cannot find. > > > > it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii. things like > > > > > > > > # Bill's birthday: > > 08 08 echo "Send Bill a birthday card. > > > > # watch one-time broadcast!! > > 08 09 2010 echo: "Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours" > > > > ... > deskutils/ical ? Good program, but probably not what the OP had in mind. ical's .calendar file, while ascii, is in a structured format which would be a bit of a pain to edit by hand; and I don't recall its being set up to send email. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 02:18:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250701065673 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:18:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9118FC0C for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o6U2I4FK068095; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:18:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 5RYhVCBWQfcT; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:18:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6U2HtKY068071; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:17:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4C523653.9010601@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:17:55 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100504) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antonio Olivares References: <20100729183916.GC22887@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20100729205406.62d66f91.freebsd@edvax.de> <201007291604.39911.lobo@bsd.com.br> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mario Lobo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:18:09 -0000 Antonio Olivares wrote: > But yes we are in difficult times and then the 2012 saga, will the world end? I have it on good AUTHORITY: $dig @daleco.biz daleco.biz | grep AUTHORITY: ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1 That we're perfectly OK: $ ssh daleco.biz uname -mrs && cal Jan 2013 FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p11 i386 January 2013 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 See? BSD says so ;-) KDK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 02:20:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE581065676 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:20:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:3080::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640F88FC16 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:20:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 18DB13C7AE; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:20:42 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Gary Kline References: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.10.4; tzolkin = 12 Kan; haab = 17 Xul Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:20:41 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> (Gary Kline's message of "Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:04:51 -0700") Message-ID: <86iq3xzp52.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: ok, i give up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:20:43 -0000 >>>>> "Gary" == Gary Kline writes: Gary> guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS Gary> ago. cannot find. Gary> it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii. things like Gary> Gary> # Bill's birthday: Gary> 08 08 echo "Send Bill a birthday card. Gary> # watch one-time broadcast!! Gary> 08 09 2010 echo: "Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours" Gary> "remind"? http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/remind http://www.freshports.org/deskutils/remind/ -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 02:29:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1341065673 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:29:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30ACB8FC0A for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6U2TbJr001248 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:29:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o6U2Tbe4001245 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:29:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:29:37 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.5 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:29:40 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Subject: AHCI and Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:29:41 -0000 The Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L has an ICH7, one PATA port, and four SATA ports. This one now has the latest BIOS, F10. Is it possible to run AHCI on this motherboard and chipset? With FreeBSD 8-stable, the terrible BIOS set to "Enhanced" mode, one SATA drive connected, and ahci_load="YES" in loader.conf, an ada disk device does not appear. Is AHCI too much to ask from a G31/ICH7 motherboard, or is it just this particular motherboard? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 03:36:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9844B106564A for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:36:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5282C8FC1E for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:36:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe42 with SMTP id 42so544930yxe.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:36:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=L69Qa1ynv47Js/oWwAhx5aIoCw2TSt1Ux1WQ0POCrr4=; b=D5aNMOVgZ2G7pXxNEASM6x6eUTnthb9xd/TdIhKdZnvdRV3v20pSEcxWCEC+3Vg8Jf 3IuL2O6qWOtRbtM2rJTZFCHAYnO0cGg/7Uj6h94DKzc5pCzmInVLOvTA0mhiur0aBJrw SQwzMxKLfM1p1DBy4tJk+Yc9w3w9Sllr7nfbc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=a9BQE9SzcDuH3mx3rUZa/Wb436dsutfgQpQaNWoE5WcMZybv/UC+6jMT3bw95kbNmE jRqeHMTUp4Gx+RglHw0dIuU6cSplY62y01L2xplh/7dQPxKt3HhsellSEYjnA4C14aCA NDLXv7IzKF6ixQUR0baGbZvXJ4WoyVX/TOsZ4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.128.7 with SMTP id f7mr2092366ybn.313.1280461014169; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.64.160 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:36:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:36:53 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AHCI and Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:36:58 -0000 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Warren Block wrote: > The Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L has an ICH7, one PATA port, and four SATA ports. > This one now has the latest BIOS, F10. > > Is it possible to run AHCI on this motherboard and chipset? > > With FreeBSD 8-stable, the terrible BIOS set to "Enhanced" mode, one SATA > drive connected, and ahci_load="YES" in loader.conf, an ada disk device does > not appear. > > Is AHCI too much to ask from a G31/ICH7 motherboard, or is it just this > particular motherboard? > I think you're SOL on both counts. G41 maybe. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 04:02:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E5F106566B for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:02:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.de) Received: from pukruppa.de (pd95cabe3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.92.171.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154438FC08 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:02:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pukruppa.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.de (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6U3sU8J074713 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:54:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.de) Received: (from ulrich@localhost) by pukruppa.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o6U3sUIf074710 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:54:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.de) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:54:29 +0200 Message-ID: <1280462069.60472.8.camel@pukruppa.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.1.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Subject: Why can't I write to freebsd-questions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:02:47 -0000 If you can read this message, the problem has been solved. Thanks Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 04:06:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE78106566C for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:06:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C658FC1E for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:06:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o6U467SQ086842; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:06:08 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:06:07 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Paul Schmehl In-Reply-To: <20100729200840.C29BD1065757@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20100730133916.B34284@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20100729200840.C29BD1065757@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:06:11 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 321, Issue 11, Message: 20 On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:20:24 -0500 Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Thursday, July 29, 2010 11:03:07 -0400 Jerry McAllister > wrote: > > > > Actually, the OP said logo and made no mention of mascott. > > I am the one way back in this thread that introduced the difference > > of BSDie mascot and round thing logo in this thread. > > I assumed the OP meant the BSDie mascot and proceeded in that > > direction. But, it is possible that the OP really did mean > > that sex toy than made him uncomfortable for religious reasons. > > I haven't heard my assumption corrected by him though. > > Well, I guess I'm old fashioned. I had no idea that was a sex toy, nor would I > know how to use it. > > Anybody care to explain? :-) > > Oh, and the absolute best part of this never-ending thread has been the > Agnostix, Atheistix, JeesuX back and forth. Had me rolling in the aisle > several times. > > Now about that sex toy...... It's a girl thing, Paul. Or rather, a girls thing .. and no, I didn't forget an apostrophe. Hope that helps. > "It is as useless to argue with those who have > renounced the use of reason as to administer > medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson Indeed, as this thread has demonstrated to excess (sure, pot, kettle :) Maybe we should go with an image of the ToothFairy .. at least that's an imaginary being that (almost) everyone over the age of seven KNOWS is an imaginary friend - or foe, as preferred. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 04:07:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5EE106566B for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:07:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D188FC26 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so699487fxm.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:07:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=noVzRoaAfSi/sVpE2SYjpYRoQZ8zKvecbSZdkM2B9ss=; b=kfv3Rp4mT1EqBxPqW73Ta2vlD0ZIg7I8Gxh/vDtlMwyif5SsUDEUxbwiLNV0bb3dK9 P9bxgX430T5cZ+sp+MScf9ps55YiY0LpzO2VriozUa5kS62f2GAhdnpiglp87i8SsU6O UvawQdkiBUw3/KkoFfRYFyo3XW1t2QB/VdsLs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=sFbexi/fHWHljrfmfvGFlPOGisMQZrUyBt5wfrjJGSOqPsCFNPt3EDjIVU4sawoGCl Ph3MYm4lY1VkyhI0tgYj0SqohZKV5oGX/k4YpkcvBgTKnMkpC3xVpE5oejNcADN5GNEM xJ6lCtiykS/bk2Uy3Kq4E57Bw9iLuryISGoXw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.212.2 with SMTP id o2mr377305muq.27.1280462820515; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.231.17 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:07:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1280462069.60472.8.camel@pukruppa.de> References: <1280462069.60472.8.camel@pukruppa.de> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:07:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Peter Ulrich Kruppa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why can't I write to freebsd-questions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:07:02 -0000 Peter, I can read it . You have solved a problem. Regards, Antonio On 7/29/10, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: > If you can read this message, > > the problem has been solved. > > Thanks > > Peter > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 04:12:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D651065678 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:12:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.de) Received: from pukruppa.de (pd95cabe3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.92.171.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8078FC08 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:12:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pukruppa.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.de (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6U4F6Yh043486; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:15:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.de) Received: (from ulrich@localhost) by pukruppa.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o6U4F5FK043485; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:15:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.de) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa To: Antonio Olivares In-Reply-To: References: <1280462069.60472.8.camel@pukruppa.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:15:05 +0200 Message-ID: <1280463305.60472.14.camel@pukruppa.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.1.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why can't I write to freebsd-questions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:12:34 -0000 Thanks, for some reason I could read all messages from this list, but couldn't reply. I just unsubscribed and resubscribed. Strange, but seems to work. Greetings Peter. Am Donnerstag, den 29.07.2010, 23:07 -0500 schrieb Antonio Olivares: > Peter, >=20 > I can read it . You have solved a problem. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Antonio >=20 > On 7/29/10, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: > > If you can read this message, > > > > the problem has been solved. > > > > Thanks > > > > Peter > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 04:21:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9501065679 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB62B8FC0C for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:21:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6U4Lulc068120; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:21:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:21:54 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Message-ID: <20100730042154.GB99425@thought.org> References: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> <86iq3xzp52.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86iq3xzp52.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: ok, i give up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:21:58 -0000 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:20:41PM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>> "Gary" == Gary Kline writes: > > Gary> guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS > Gary> ago. cannot find. > > Gary> it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii. things like > > Gary> > > Gary> # Bill's birthday: > Gary> 08 08 echo "Send Bill a birthday card. > > Gary> # watch one-time broadcast!! > Gary> 08 09 2010 echo: "Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours" > > Gary> > > "remind"? > > http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/remind > > http://www.freshports.org/deskutils/remind/ > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion it was `when'; i need a ~/.dotfile template that i can edit and i'll be able to try. last time, years back, i found [or was send] a template and edited to my own use. the nice thing about this program is that it pops up a small rectangle and you have to click on the rectangle to clear your screen. thanks to everybody who responded! gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 05:09:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC7E1065673 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:09:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D92C8FC15 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:09:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so710309fxm.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:09:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=qxsQh9yFRFigvxy0DP0W3MuYmPsLR57VWWZ4bM0Mk9U=; b=KJ5rq/fWxQm0mGBWDLcaD6Y6HEdk7t9MdhxXJMT6riv8BBDxP2g3tkmUHuVTbxWuq5 fLTgVlKpigQkINRn9l4Hkuco05dnp7AC+AY7+qsQn+4U2/PEMmuCExfbN4iQbcqOAjP0 KjBwjeOVvpYPT4MsOs4xU7W8ovwLWY29+TjDw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=rEGx51WK5UD1HIHafXtiZLHJUdC2OgdJZS0TBECbbmFqU2Ny8iqbCZQtVgABHNP4X8 XXRR9ReXF3qdTEThx7PDppqDw22tiikcAsNydtOadsoHpVbGGzj/JHyDiJO31oF3BPY1 UdaZ9n6t8Phnz6X94hOuV3nmk48aVFnudshGU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.40.1 with SMTP id s1mr395699muj.4.1280466567689; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.231.17 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:09:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C509728.2040008@telenix.org> References: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <62ff4ba92a711128d74c6319f09ade0c.squirrel@www.gull.us> <4C509728.2040008@telenix.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:09:27 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Chuck Robey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Dale Scott , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:09:30 -0000 On 7/28/10, Chuck Robey wrote: > Dale Scott wrote: >> Personally, I enjoy our mascot Beastie, as well as the Beastie-influenced >> official logo. I also smile when I see Casper, Wendy andHotStuff. >> However, I also accept there are individuals who understand these symbols >> differently than me, and that I may be alienating them to my >> detriment. It seems consumer products need to be mindful of cultural >> differences, is FreeBSD different? A larger community and increased OS >> market share wouldn't be all that bad, would it? >> >> I hope that those of you who believe in FreeBSD but with a personal >> conflict with the mascot or logo, >> band together and propose a complementary alternate symbol. I don't >> mean flooding the mail list (it's obvious we can do that on our own), >> I'm talking about difficult time-consuming organization, lobbying, and >> support gathering. For me, I hope Beastie endures forever - he our first >> and legacy mascot - but I also wouldn't object to one or two more >> officially sanctioned mascots and logos either. >> >> Dale Scott > > God, I rewrote this 4 times, because I need to be careful and correct here. > First, there is no honest reason why people of differing opinions can't get > along. If others have problems with me having my own beliefs, I won't force > them to live my way, but they must respect my own choices too. The major > point > here, though, is a historical one: appeasement does not work, and even the > attempt leads to problems. > > The point is, no sane person really believes that Beastie equates to devil > worship, and I don't like the idea of letting crazies dictate my life. > _______________________________________________ For users that are not offended, you can read about a story about Beastie: http://rmitz.org/freebsd.daemon.html I remember having read that article a long time ago, but is also linked here in a recent article illustrating FreeBSD: http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Health-Check-FreeBSD-The-unknown-giant-920248.html Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 05:26:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC8E106566C for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:26:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steven@too1337.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819A48FC24 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:26:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywf9 with SMTP id 9so557925ywf.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.154.30 with SMTP id g30mr1400437ano.256.1280466084419; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thinkpad.susnet (ip68-99-10-223.om.om.cox.net [68.99.10.223]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x33sm2388180ana.13.2010.07.29.22.01.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C525C90.9000003@too1337.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:01:04 -0500 From: Steven Susbauer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100729 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: EforeZZ Subject: Re: Firewire RAM access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:26:41 -0000 On 07/27/10 07:38, EforeZZ wrote: > Hi, > > I was playing around with fwcontrol and its "-m" switch. > I connected my FreeBSD 7.2 notebook to Win7 PC Via firewire and > attempted to access Win7's RAM through the /dev/fwmem interface. I > failed. > > The question is.. Should this always work? As far as I know I should > be able to access other PC's RAM through the firewire connection > without any support from the connected PC's OS, right? > > Best regards, > EforeZZ According to this page for the Linux mem1394 driver, the host can set up a filter to block it, and Windows appears to do so (http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/Projects/mem1394). -Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 06:51:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207111065673 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:51:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4798FC1E for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:51:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6U6pZ4g017327; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:51:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6E496BA8F; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:51:35 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:51:35 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20100730065135.GA51952@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AHCI and Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:51:38 -0000 --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 08:29:37PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > The Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L has an ICH7, one PATA port, and four SATA=20 > ports. This one now has the latest BIOS, F10. >=20 > Is it possible to run AHCI on this motherboard and chipset? Only some ICH7 chipsets are able to run with AHCI.=20 Check the 'atapci' devices in the output of 'pciconf -lv'. Only if it says "subclass =3D SATA" below "class=3Dmass storage", it is AHCI capable. This may be affected by BIOS settings, though. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxSdncACgkQEnfvsMMhpyU/OwCgiffm53WpKQVDFnwzggJTJbm6 J8EAoJ34SrrodiLe0w7L/UAMT3o8HW+h =cFz9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 07:30:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1641E1065670 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:30:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00FF8FC0C for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:30:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o6U7UdAX009152 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:30:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o6U7Uc3C009151; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA06369; Fri, 30 Jul 10 00:19:29 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:19:24 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: mueller6727@bellsouth.net Message-Id: <4c527cfc.OgfAMUi2RUrl9wO8%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4c514671.eAS89s2T1SDVlo2N%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: <4c514671.eAS89s2T1SDVlo2N%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Booting from floppy to install 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:30:43 -0000 "Thomas Mueller" wrote: > > Should I be able to do a network install of 8.1 using a 7.3 boot > > floppy set? (I'm not planning to set up zfs, at least initially.) ... > I once net-installed FreeBSD using a boot CD from an earlier > version; I think it was a disk one rather than boot-only ... > If you use boot floppies, use only the two (or is it three?) > needed to boot the install system. If I've understood the 7.3 set correctly it's now up to five: the initial boot, plus 3 for the kernel and one for the mfsroot image. > I never used zfs, don't have big enough hard drive or enough RAM > to justify zfs. Ditto, at least as to RAM (512MB, which I tend to think of as _huge_ -- after all, "no one should ever need more than 640KB" :) I still have a couple of _hard drives_ that are only 10MB each sitting around somewhere. > You could look into PLoP (http://www.plop.at/) boot manager: may > be able to boot CD or USB even when BIOS does not support booting > from CD or USB ... THANK YOU!! It does indeed boot the machine from the 8.1-RELEASE USB memstick, solving the problem entirely. This deserves to be better known. > If I were in your situation, my first choice would be net install, > assuming you have cable or DSL; dialup would be awful slow. Even dialup would be faster (or at least a lot easier) than installing the whole system from floppies. By "boot floppy set" I was referring to just the boot, kernel, and mfsroot needed to get started. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 08:16:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63789106566B for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:16:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from renaud.luca@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95208FC1D for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:16:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyh6 with SMTP id 6so612945eyh.13 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:16:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SgVclEIa6qz5n4uX6YOX/Gdp5xNlJn6D6VE90CqjGtU=; b=FH4yJpt9V9FcLheaOhC32ooCHPTZRNscU8GcelgyrqfKqRweG10tI3plX0AB8Zp63B /Mhh30LNas3BxBvm8abnYbOFSC1qsI7pz0W4oZh6m2JqZ0URu7E2j2hBPlcKSn0gue7h L6brPTgF5Fq934EDH7bMfTQDvWMTSI7xiF8Ys= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=swaFBkh6FROIxcVRhGt2oZq+GcH1yg4MV+adxP3w8dklLDXUeLJ2PZx2LGR2SJ0iiU frmVgSBaqpz68qPOPXTC6mt/QZt3T4jVf2bkq3IjtxNt5GObyC1ULhI5uDagrAYIRLNK BzgdBkv99/DpYnAx3UkbwyEb8s2DhfQL2KWig= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.42.72 with SMTP id r8mr931843ebe.86.1280477815960; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.29.200 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:16:55 +0100 Message-ID: From: Luca Renaud To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Are there tools for binary update(security etc.) of applications? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:16:57 -0000 I updated my system from FreeBSD 8.0 to 8.1 using the tool freebsd-update.As far as I know this tool only updates the core system and user land utilities,thus,all other apps are not updated. I use the gnome desktop,and I regularly receive the warning from Software Updater that I have 240,or so,applications not updated etc.,and if I want to update them. My question is: update them through the ports system?(compiling them all?) or binary update? Are there tools capable of doing that using the command line?(binary update of apps not in the core system or userland utilities,but also important regarding security questions,for example). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 09:29:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F3D1065679 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:29:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6727@bellsouth.net) Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net (fmailhost02.isp.att.net [204.127.217.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E326C8FC1F for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:29:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mueller6722.bellsouth.net (adsl-18-68-238.sdf.bellsouth.net[68.18.68.238]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc02) with SMTP id <20100730092915H020022jg0e>; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:29:16 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.18.68.238] Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:31:14 +0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4c529be2.RVKzwYitRKGooKhk%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: perryh@pluto.rain.com Subject: Re: Booting from floppy to install 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:29:18 -0000 > > I once net-installed FreeBSD using a boot CD from an earlier > > version; I think it was a disk one rather than boot-only ... > > If you use boot floppies, use only the two (or is it three?) > > needed to boot the install system. > If I've understood the 7.3 set correctly it's now up to five: the > initial boot, plus 3 for the kernel and one for the mfsroot image. I just browsed ftp.freebsd.org, not to download anything: I see the number of boot floppies is up to five for 7.3, and there is also a fixit.flp (i386). For amd64, there are four floppies for the kernel, making six needed to boot, but no fixit.flp For FreeBSD 8.1 i386 and amd64, I could find no boot floppies. Maybe they could see the number of floppies was becoming too unreasonable, added to the great unreliability of old floppies. I see that the sets are still broken into 1392 KB chunks as base.aa, base.ab and so on, wonder why they chose 1392 KB rather than 1440 KB. Maybe to allow for bad sectors revealed when formatting floppies? > > You could look into PLoP (http://www.plop.at/) boot manager: may > > be able to boot CD or USB even when BIOS does not support booting > > from CD or USB ... > THANK YOU!! It does indeed boot the machine from the 8.1-RELEASE > USB memstick, solving the problem entirely. This deserves to be > better known. Glad to know it worked for you, and convinces me that my successful boot of NetBSD 4.0.1 from a USB stick was no fluke. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 09:53:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB69106566C for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:53:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EC5C8FC20 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:53:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 30 Jul 2010 09:23:40 -0000 Received: from pD952D7DC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO core2duo.local) [217.82.215.220] by mail.gmx.net (mp064) with SMTP; 30 Jul 2010 11:23:40 +0200 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19DqoB8q61DhrnEsjLn3umGhAGZT3YfOnR120XVp5 L7iCzdVQl1+ESF Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:23:32 +0200 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Luca Renaud Message-Id: <20100730112332.750d2fe6.cyb.@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Fri__30_Jul_2010_11_23_32_+0200_zoXGQMXDrMx2CWWQ" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are there tools for binary update(security etc.) of applications? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:53:06 -0000 --Signature=_Fri__30_Jul_2010_11_23_32_+0200_zoXGQMXDrMx2CWWQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:16:55 +0100 Luca Renaud wrote: > My question is: update them through the ports system?(compiling them all?) > or binary update? > Are there tools capable of doing that using the command line?(binary upda= te > of apps not in the core system or userland utilities,but also important > regarding security questions,for example). Take a look at this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --Signature=_Fri__30_Jul_2010_11_23_32_+0200_zoXGQMXDrMx2CWWQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxSmhkACgkQ8P3NNypXNWXX0QCgm1WF/oxVSsnAHDtswN13dXNY ElIAoKUuXx/HxEI1A1pF69NeXxJhehYI =xVNz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Fri__30_Jul_2010_11_23_32_+0200_zoXGQMXDrMx2CWWQ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 11:18:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE42A106566B for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:18:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s37.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s37.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616888FC1A for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:18:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP101 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s37.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:18:43 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [67.189.160.65] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([67.189.160.65]) by BLU0-SMTP101.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:18:42 -0700 Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ABD20E54828 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:18:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:18:40 -0400 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2010 11:18:43.0062 (UTC) FILETIME=[F803A160:01CB2FD8] Subject: IPFW with MAC address configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:18:44 -0000 I am trying to set up a rule using IPFW that utilizes a MAC address rather than an IP one. ipfw -q allow log tcp from MAC 00-14-A4-43-8E-BA to me 137 in via nfe0 setup keep-state Would that work, assuming the machine I want to allow access has that MAC address? -- Carmel ✌ carmel_ny@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 11:24:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247381065676 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:24:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prateeks@cse.iitb.ac.in) Received: from smtp1.iitb.ac.in (smtp1.iitb.ac.in [59.162.23.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 32A748FC12 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:24:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11411 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2010 16:28:11 +0530 Received: from unknown (HELO ldns2.iitb.ac.in) (10.200.12.2) by smtp1.iitb.ac.in with SMTP; 30 Jul 2010 16:28:11 +0530 Received: (qmail 25339 invoked by uid 510); 30 Jul 2010 16:28:11 +0530 Received: from 10.200.12.201 by ldns2 (envelope-from , uid 501) with qmail-scanner-2.08 ({clamdscan: 0.96.1-exp-debug/11463} spamassassin: 3.3.1. 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Processed in 3.617642 secs); 30 Jul 2010 10:58:11 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ldns2.iitb.ac.in X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.5 tests=IITB_ORIG,PROPER_IITB_MSGID, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Envelope-From: prateeks@cse.iitb.ac.in Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-auth.iitb.ac.in) (10.200.12.201) by ldns2.iitb.ac.in with SMTP; 30 Jul 2010 16:28:07 +0530 Received: from nsl-21.cse.iitb.ac.in (nsl-21.cse.iitb.ac.in [10.105.12.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-auth.iitb.ac.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EDB13900 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:28:07 +0530 (IST) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:28:02 +0530 (IST) From: Prateek Sharma To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Installation - no disks detected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:24:55 -0000 Hello, I am trying to install FreeBSD-8.1 on a server with the LSI SAS 9200 disk controller card. Before the partitioning step the installer says "disks not found.". However, just after freebsd boots , i get the diagnostic message saying something like: "Drive C: is disk ad0 Drive D: is disk ad1 .. " So are my disks getting detected or not? Does anyone know if the card is supported by FreeBSD? Is there any way i can get this to work? Thanks ! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 11:58:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002421065676 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:58:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8F18FC15 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:58:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:58:30 +0200 Message-ID: <4C52BE66.1000908@ose.nl> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:58:30 +0200 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: IPFW with MAC address configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:58:33 -0000 On 07/30/2010 01=3A18 PM=2C Carmel wrote=3A =3E I am trying to set up a rule using IPFW that utilizes a MAC address =3E rather than an IP one=2E =3E =3E ipfw -q allow log tcp from MAC 00-14-A4-43-8E-BA to me 137 in via nfe0= setup keep-state =3E =3E Would that work=2C assuming the machine I want to allow access has that= =3E MAC address=3F =3E =3E =20 According to the manual =28man ipfw=29 I guess the rule would something lik= e=3A ipfw add 1000 allow log tcp MAC any 00=3A14=3AA4=3A43=3A8E=3ABA/33 to me 13= 7 in via nfe0 setup keep-state =20 >From the manual=3A =7B MAC =7C mac =7D dst-mac src-mac Match packets with a given dst-mac and src-mac addresses=2C speci- fied as the any keyword =28matching any MAC address=29=2C or s= ix groups of hex digits separated by colons=2C and optionally followed b= y a mask indicating the significant bits=2E The mask may be specified using either of the following methods=3A 1=2E A slash =28/=29 followed by the number of significan= t bits=2E For example=2C an address with 33 significant bits could be specified as=3A MAC 10=3A20=3A30=3A40=3A50=3A60/33 any 2=2E An ampersand =28=26=29 followed by a bitmask specifi= ed as six groups of hex digits separated by colons=2E For examp= le=2C an address in which the last 16 bits are significant= could be specified as=3A MAC 10=3A20=3A30=3A40=3A50=3A60=2600=3A00=3A00= =3A00=3Aff=3Aff any Note that the ampersand character has a special meanin= g in many shells and should generally be escaped=2E Note that the order of MAC addresses =28destination first=2C s= ource second=29 is the same as on the wire=2C but the opposite of th= e one used for IP addresses=2E DISCLAIMER=3A This e-mail is for the intended recipient=28s=29 only=2E Acce= ss=2C disclosure=2C copying=2C distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited=2E If yo= u have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system= =2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 12:30:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CC3106564A for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29ADF8FC15 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:30:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:30:54 +0200 Message-ID: <4C52C5FE.5030109@ose.nl> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:30:54 +0200 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C52BE66.1000908@ose.nl> In-Reply-To: <4C52BE66.1000908@ose.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: IPFW with MAC address configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:30:56 -0000 =3E On 07/30/2010 01=3A18 PM=2C Carmel wrote=3A =3E =20 =3E=3E I am trying to set up a rule using IPFW that utilizes a MAC address= =3E=3E rather than an IP one=2E =3E=3E =3E=3E ipfw -q allow log tcp from MAC 00-14-A4-43-8E-BA to me 137 in via nf= e0 setup keep-state =3E=3E =3E=3E Would that work=2C assuming the machine I want to allow access has t= hat =3E=3E MAC address=3F =3E=3E =3E=3E =20 =3E=3E =20 =3E According to the manual =28man ipfw=29 I guess the rule would something= like=3A =3E ipfw add 1000 allow log tcp MAC any 00=3A14=3AA4=3A43=3A8E=3ABA/33 to m= e 137 in =3E via nfe0 setup keep-state =20 To match this mac address exactly it should have MAC any 00=3A14=3AA4=3A43=3A8E=3ABA/48 I=27m not sure about this DISCLAIMER=3A This e-mail is for the intended recipient=28s=29 only=2E Acce= ss=2C disclosure=2C copying=2C distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited=2E If yo= u have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system= =2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 14:04:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E41A1065673 for ; 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:04:52 -0000 --- On Thu, 7/29/10, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > From: Volodymyr Kostyrko > Subject: Re: How to mass recompile broken packages? > To: "Unga" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 11:00 PM > 29.07.2010 17:31, Unga wrote: > >>> I'm using FreeBSD 8.1 on i386 machine. > >>> > >>> I have upgraded a package using portmanager, > but the > >> upgrade seems not successful. > >>> > >>> The required package is upgraded but all > packages > >> depend on the upgraded package were not > recompiled. > >>> > >>> I have two questions regarding this: > >>> 1. How to list all packages that are broken > now? > >>> > >>> 2. How to mass recompile all broken packages? > >> > >> You will need to install libchk from ports. After > that: > >> > >> libchk | grep '^Unresolvable' | sed 's|.* in: ||' > | xargs > >> -n1 pkg_info > >> -W | sed 's|.*by package ||' | sort -u | grep -v > '^[?]$' > >>> rebuild > >> > >> You'll get 'rebuild' file listing all packages > with broken > >> binaries. You > >> can use portmaster or portupgrade on it. > >> > > > > Hi > > > > Thank you very much for the reply. > > > > I have 63 packages effected. > > > > How do I sort the "rebuild" file in the dependency > order because the first line itself the compilation fails. I > used "portupgrade -f pkg". > > You don't need that. portupgrade can handle it. Just give > it the whole list: > > portupgrade -f `cat rebuild` > Ok, the portupgrade process was not fully automated, I had to manually compile few. Two packages still get listed in the rebuild file, I removed them and recompiled, but still get listed. One of the packages is firefox, but the firefox works well. Therefore, I conclude my broken packages recompilation is satisfactory. Thank you for all those who helped me. Best regards Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 14:33:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FBDB1065674 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:33:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E527A8FC13 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OeqeI-0007Fk-SF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:33:22 +0200 Received: from 193.33.173.33 ([193.33.173.33]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:33:22 +0200 Received: from c.kworr by 193.33.173.33 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:33:22 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:33:14 +0300 Lines: 14 Message-ID: <4C52E2AA.5070200@gmail.com> References: <4C51977D.7060901@gmail.com> <185083.41396.qm@web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.33.173.33 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; uk-UA; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100722 Thunderbird/3.0.6 In-Reply-To: <185083.41396.qm@web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: How to mass recompile broken packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:33:24 -0000 30.07.2010 17:04, Unga wrote: > Ok, the portupgrade process was not fully automated, I had to manually compile few. > > Two packages still get listed in the rebuild file, I removed them and recompiled, but still get listed. One of the packages is firefox, but the firefox works well. Therefore, I conclude my broken packages recompilation is satisfactory. This is possible. You probably need to recheck your system one more time. For example let's have 3 libs. Lib A needs Lib B and Lib B needs Lib C. If Lib C vanishes and Lib A is not linked with it for the first run everything would be fine. But if during the run Lib B gets upgraded and old version vanishes Lib A gets broken. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 14:33:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCD51065672 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDCC8FC18 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so953202fxm.13 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:33:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:newsgroups:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=upO7fUwqqtrh/MZpjKaIG0KQwCRQovaXKlDkcGJYkk0=; b=CIqyj558qGRbxsZx8C91ofDd9K6XxhZc9bvlmnWFLzHsrpwc8LB500nt5Bx+Z9hfx/ mniKusgV+dU3T++c0sxPFBy43mBvN51VUcSV/3rzYYoDLIOCEIMlpFc1SFs/XPuwJcef xp+iix3hHZjI7RhQi38Ft7wi0qeqYXuMNbKdE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:newsgroups:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=L6+5E8geuZ1Dq0gThGzAeRnkslk56rodHrJLuToQrAYQxGq9THly7s7ScaA0yzeOVu 0lzbnPWV5V6EI/OL6yLgv5R1bn+Eq9bnoB9WLjxxqS0hEIsLTU4eJzFb2Ieyg2CC/iyK EnAect5fmCABax6txhfndRYGiOKYAV+npjhtY= Received: by 10.223.113.5 with SMTP id y5mr2092933fap.93.1280500414784; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from limbo.lan ([193.33.173.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l12sm824032fan.25.2010.07.30.07.33.18 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C52E2AA.5070200@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:33:14 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; uk-UA; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100722 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions To: Unga References: <4C51977D.7060901@gmail.com> <185083.41396.qm@web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <185083.41396.qm@web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to mass recompile broken packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:33:36 -0000 30.07.2010 17:04, Unga wrote: > Ok, the portupgrade process was not fully automated, I had to manually compile few. > > Two packages still get listed in the rebuild file, I removed them and recompiled, but still get listed. One of the packages is firefox, but the firefox works well. Therefore, I conclude my broken packages recompilation is satisfactory. This is possible. You probably need to recheck your system one more time. For example let's have 3 libs. Lib A needs Lib B and Lib B needs Lib C. If Lib C vanishes and Lib A is not linked with it for the first run everything would be fine. But if during the run Lib B gets upgraded and old version vanishes Lib A gets broken. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 15:38:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68F5106566B for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:38:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1038FC1A for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:38:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o6UFc9Vx027307; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:38:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o6UFc9J6027306; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:38:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:38:09 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Paul Schmehl Message-ID: <20100730153809.GA27271@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20100729200840.C29BD1065757@hub.freebsd.org> <20100730133916.B34284@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <54BD10679A42E29309201048@utd65257.utdallas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <54BD10679A42E29309201048@utd65257.utdallas.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:38:49 -0000 On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 10:30:45AM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Friday, July 30, 2010 14:06:07 +1000 Ian Smith > wrote: > > . . . > > > > > > > Now about that sex toy...... > > > >It's a girl thing, Paul. Or rather, a girls thing .. and no, I didn't > >forget an apostrophe. Hope that helps. > > > > Somewhere in the distant past I remember stumbling across benwa..... > > > > "It is as useless to argue with those who have > > > renounced the use of reason as to administer > > > medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson > > > >Indeed, as this thread has demonstrated to excess (sure, pot, kettle :) > > > >Maybe we should go with an image of the ToothFairy .. at least that's an > >imaginary being that (almost) everyone over the age of seven KNOWS is an > >imaginary friend - or foe, as preferred. > > > > Cue the anti-ToothFairy crowd..... The image I have of a tooth fairy might not be very appealing. Maybe it was just a local thing back in the late 60's early 70's but we had a character; a rather burly male with muscles, but something of a pot too, hairy legs, arms and chest, a cigar and possibly some missing teeth. I suppose some may consider him a sex toy. ////jerry > -- > Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst > As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions > are my own and not those of my employer. > ******************************************* > "It is as useless to argue with those who have > renounced the use of reason as to administer > medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 15:59:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5010F1065670 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:59:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=82060ec0e=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-002.utdallas.edu (ip-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA148FC1C for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:59:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: None X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ag8GAIyNUkyBbgogTmdsb2JhbACgJQEBIkLBLIU5BIQV X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,287,1278306000"; d="scan'208";a="34694010" Received: from zxtm01.utdallas.edu (HELO utd65257.utdallas.edu) ([129.110.10.32]) by ip-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 30 Jul 2010 10:30:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:30:45 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: Ian Smith Message-ID: <54BD10679A42E29309201048@utd65257.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <20100730133916.B34284@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20100729200840.C29BD1065757@hub.freebsd.org> <20100730133916.B34284@sola.nimnet.asn.au> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:59:28 -0000 --On Friday, July 30, 2010 14:06:07 +1000 Ian Smith wrote: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 321, Issue 11, Message: 20 > On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:20:24 -0500 Paul Schmehl > wrote: > --On Thursday, July 29, 2010 11:03:07 -0400 Jerry McAllister > > wrote: > > > > > > Actually, the OP said logo and made no mention of mascott. > > > I am the one way back in this thread that introduced the difference > > > of BSDie mascot and round thing logo in this thread. > > > I assumed the OP meant the BSDie mascot and proceeded in that > > > direction. But, it is possible that the OP really did mean > > > that sex toy than made him uncomfortable for religious reasons. > > > I haven't heard my assumption corrected by him though. > > > > Well, I guess I'm old fashioned. I had no idea that was a sex toy, nor > would I > know how to use it. > > > > Anybody care to explain? :-) > > > > Oh, and the absolute best part of this never-ending thread has been the > > Agnostix, Atheistix, JeesuX back and forth. Had me rolling in the aisle > > several times. > > > > Now about that sex toy...... > > It's a girl thing, Paul. Or rather, a girls thing .. and no, I didn't > forget an apostrophe. Hope that helps. > Somewhere in the distant past I remember stumbling across benwa..... > > "It is as useless to argue with those who have > > renounced the use of reason as to administer > > medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson > > Indeed, as this thread has demonstrated to excess (sure, pot, kettle :) > > Maybe we should go with an image of the ToothFairy .. at least that's an > imaginary being that (almost) everyone over the age of seven KNOWS is an > imaginary friend - or foe, as preferred. > Cue the anti-ToothFairy crowd..... -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 16:06:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94DD2106567B for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:06:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jpaetzel@freebsd.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE628FC1B for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2933916EEC8; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:36:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:36:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=from:to:subject:date:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; s=smtpout; bh=GtXcyTMMQM3nwZ3Uu36LhnE10R4=; b=Jh4RdV+ekwOzzJRDyqhiWuR40r9lz7jWEnJ72weV5za8XWYS4Jq0kFIKv9q5iWp2kNG0Y5Yc5QK0TAX/5rUBJZOwP4FGtjM1twjG1ljShcQEBswiQgae3mZRWUpDN/jc3H7wNoH/CIm9BADYxeTxG3h03vZ4ZBKwbx6s8Z8Nq4s= X-Sasl-enc: YZXv/4YvneCRl4UPKkAcqthDKqbllIB8EEENTGHdPZGm 1280504207 Received: from ix.tcbug.org (70-5-233-244.pools.spcsdns.net [70.5.233.244]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 782754E1B63; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:36:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Josh Paetzel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:35:26 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/9.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.4.5; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: Organization: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1610633.ag4YqNX1tL"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201007301035.34531.jpaetzel@freebsd.org> Cc: Prateek Sharma Subject: Re: Installation - no disks detected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:06:01 -0000 --nextPart1610633.ag4YqNX1tL Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Friday 30 July 2010 05:58:02 Prateek Sharma wrote: > Hello, > I am trying to install FreeBSD-8.1 on a server with the LSI SAS 9200 di= sk > controller card. Before the partitioning step the installer says "disks > not found.". >=20 > However, just after freebsd boots , i get the diagnostic message saying > something like: "Drive C: is disk ad0 > Drive D: is disk ad1 > .. " > So are my disks getting detected or not? Does anyone know if the card is > supported by FreeBSD? Is there any way i can get this to work? >=20 > Thanks ! There's work in progress to get the new 6gbps LSI HBAs and RAID controllers= =20 working in FreeBSD, but so far the driver is pretty experimental. Currentl= y=20 there's nothing in the tree, but hopefully soon there will be something rea= dy=20 for testing. As far as what you are seeing on boot, the system BIOS is seeing the=20 controller and disks, but FreeBSD doesn't have a driver so once the OS is=20 charge you get the no disks found message. =2D-=20 Thanks, Josh Paetzel =46reeBSD -- The power to serve --nextPart1610633.ag4YqNX1tL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAABAgAGBQJMUvFGAAoJEKFq1/n1feG2VW8H/iUl36rhDSfJuEarmmmQpNw2 W1ym0tlV1a3tntwHQEV4fJAfjKuMSko0TYLEEXfw1oR50JvawVD5xPrWNO+A22Lj p9RmBhFWpRZKdOsp50Zfbfg4CFnHRs0bTd1lWTKDSHd7FgDwJY1VtY+HIVeBCNnV o15ySsZOjBXAJYr3bbBNTw2BYewLrxwMMWkpdFdq47yevUGmTsagbBV8wugl06Ke etEUpn/fHZUnWdkesmWkHtWnCdR9E3MeXc0LnOYXWj4GOEeqGzZIk3Wx4q0x2Bdw OXW1sywi/gJJ0VDEm4okKkYRUjdSx1/sUx+u9HFghY/llj+Dj/4bcJ5BvUJOqwI= =iaVF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1610633.ag4YqNX1tL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 16:41:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E56F1065675; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:41:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACAA78FC23; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe42 with SMTP id 42so863530yxe.13 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:41:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=g5889z5QNz8+5jVBzBgrGBGu2dUAHQAXbw3EtWvYYOs=; b=SuIYxp/hGWcIkXj/y+PgaBM5nQHLeKky6lBbxmRlPd/OH+Xv+vk4bPvWKenAJgVsXK 5BNOfLeN/kMaxJbfQjxkIRTkX6rfL2oNIJ/kRRWUJX9Wce7uIMeKz4qvZ14Dx0UM8cIb TMuA6H/RDfiAHtJNIEh+zYpH1VoU1WUjL+Bo8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Z98yd0BNkpgzKimBDixv1Va2Y7O6wPXU4rWHXr+yUcC17SntWkWw+XJ332/VFvIdRL Dp+sy52qWS/n2EPonpZ+FhH28eDCQOZR/DG96skDNl1OdHS22TliigUmI++k5rVfIro4 nII0yn6ImVpLA8QMAlLpGus7grORLVwMOC5OM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.11.12 with SMTP id 12mr3566707ybk.309.1280508089855; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.28.130 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:41:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:41:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: krad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: possible NFS lockups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:41:31 -0000 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:29 AM, krad wrote: > I have a production mail system with an nfs backend. Every now and again we > see the nfs die on a particular head end. However it doesn't die across all > the nodes. This suggests to me there isnt an issue with the filer itself and > the stats from the filer concur with that. > > The symptoms are lines like this appearing in dmesg > > nfs server 10.44.17.138:/vol/vol1/mail: not responding > nfs server 10.44.17.138:/vol/vol1/mail: is alive again > > trussing df it seems to hang on getfsstat, this is presumably when it tries > the nfs mounts > I also have this problem, where nfs locks up on a FreeBSD 9 server and a FreeBSD RELENG_8 client -- Sam Fourman Jr. Fourman Networks http://www.fourmannetworks.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 16:57:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77CA1106566C for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kenneth.hatteland@kleppnett.no) Received: from asav3.lyse.net (asav3.lyse.net [81.167.37.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352908FC15 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:57:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asav3.lyse.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE439846EA for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:57:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at lyse.net Received: from mars.hatteland1.org (129.81-166-80.customer.lyse.net [81.166.80.129]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: kenneth.hatteland@kleppnett.no) by asav3.lyse.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDAD84169 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:57:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C53046D.1090901@kleppnett.no> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:57:17 +0200 From: Kenneth Hatteland User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; nb-NO; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100722 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Upgraded cups - no cups printer in firefox after the, upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:57:23 -0000 Yes Antonio, it was gtk2 and libgnomeprint...... thanks....bookmarked it this time ;) kenneth From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 17:21:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2F4106566B for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:21:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edflecko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB04C8FC19 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:20:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so1912469iwn.13 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:20:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pKI6adxaL6DGxkFF4py1lDqvrBqIHs1uVbHPgrgu8bE=; b=m2sO44feJzgaP5Op930evxKtGRcrfVm/2l8UYO0zGzijgLykKCEy/CO6RCTPXlPJOX xi8F0XQ2Rx8sswGtBCYwnLXJeJmmaJiBebZ93yzlX6glZ5UucL2P/D4FbLShb9W6cQTl t1j+uqSprEUnkS1rqgU54l/zV8aVbcRENa1EM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=SYPaox/eLtKvtHpxznKZuAia9wu8LQN9T4+zaqQk0Crgn9icqThWh3Pqwy8SPtRsaf 1F4hJfQg60Q7HDIneu5VC58Ow93RIKcyNq9oGfeDUC1aPeDndvlgyblUo+7JvBELecRE ylUNCwHA0PlzkcpPyYbRyRC1U4ySNXtxwyBvI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.150.7 with SMTP id w7mr2201352ibv.14.1280510457670; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.118.98 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:20:57 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ed Flecko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Correct syntax of "supfile" to keep ports upgraded? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:21:22 -0000 Hi folks, I'm trying to learn how to keep my FreeBSD 8.0 updated (patched with security updates) the "correct" (I know that's subjective) way. Here's what my supfile looks like now: # If you add any of the ports or doc collections to this file, be sure to # specify them with a "tag" value set to ".", like this: # # ports-all tag=. # doc-all tag=. *default host=cvsup10.us.freebsd.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr # The following line is for 8-stable. If you want 7-stable, 6-stable, # 5-stable, 4-stable, 3-stable, or 2.2-stable, change to "RELENG_7", # "RELENG_6", "RELENG_5", "RELENG_4", "RELENG_3", or "RELENG_2_2" # respectively. *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8_0 *default delete use-rel-suffix ## Main Source Tree. # # The easiest way to get the main source tree is to use the "src-all" # mega-collection. It includes all of the individual "src-*" collections. # Please note: If you want to track -STABLE, leave this uncommented. src-all To keep my "ports" up to date, do I simply need to add: ports-all tag=. to this file before running csup or cvsup? Thank you, Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 17:48:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E44B106566C for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:48:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from redcondor1.peak.org (redcondor1.peak.org [69.59.192.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5D48FC21 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from peak-mail-gateway.peak.org ([69.59.192.42]) by redcondor1.peak.org ({e03e86cd-14ae-47ce-9578-3c080ce9c462}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20100730174852929 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:48:52 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from cjlinux.localnet (207.55.91.197.peak.org [207.55.91.197] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by peak-mail-gateway.peak.org (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id o6UHmqZI090097 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carlj by cjlinux.localnet with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OethT-0005yW-8h for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:48:51 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Carl Johnson Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:48:51 -0700 Message-ID: <878w4svp18.fsf@cjlinux.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: IPv6 rtadv on FreeBSD 8.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:48:54 -0000 I have running versions of 7.3 and 8.0, so I tried experimenting with 8.1 in VirtualBox, but I ran into a couple of problems. I have an 8.0 system that is running a IPv6 tunnel to sixxs.net, and it is running rtadvd to act as the gatway for my network. On the 8.1 system I enabled IPv6 in rc.conf, but it is not picking up the advertised address. I can add it manually, and have put it in rc.local for now, but it seems it should work automatically as my others do. I noticed that the ifconfig output shows a new line that is not in 8.0: nd6 options=3 Is there something that has changed in 8.1 that I have to enable, or is there a problem with 8.1? IPv6 is working to the extent that it did assign a link-local address, and I can use that address as long as I specify the interface. My configuration is the same, and I didn't have to enable anything on the others to get the global address assigned automatically. Thanks for any advice. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 17:54:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1286F1065679 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:54:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B5018FC1E for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:54:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6UHs4aj032580; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:54:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3EB63BA94; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:54:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:54:04 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Ed Flecko Message-ID: <20100730175404.GA32794@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Correct syntax of "supfile" to keep ports upgraded? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:54:07 -0000 --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 10:20:57AM -0700, Ed Flecko wrote: > Hi folks, > I'm trying to learn how to keep my FreeBSD 8.0 updated (patched with > security updates) the "correct" (I know that's subjective) way. > To keep my "ports" up to date, do I simply need to add: >=20 > ports-all tag=3D. >=20 > to this file before running csup or cvsup? For updating ports, portsnap(8) [part of the base system in 8.x] if much faster. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxTEbwACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUNvwCfcY2wWKvgodbd+PpNXC+QYXgV L3gAnA/S2sMDYgzc9+l4kY51Yc2LllGD =0a86 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 18:02:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3AC106567D for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:02:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from redcondor1.peak.org (redcondor1.peak.org [69.59.192.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B148FC27 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:02:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from peak-mail-gateway.peak.org ([69.59.192.42]) by redcondor1.peak.org ({e03e86cd-14ae-47ce-9578-3c080ce9c462}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20100730180251918 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:02:51 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from cjlinux.localnet (207.55.91.197.peak.org [207.55.91.197] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by peak-mail-gateway.peak.org (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id o6UI2mZI096913 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carlj by cjlinux.localnet with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oetuy-0004O0-Dw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:02:48 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Carl Johnson Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:02:48 -0700 Message-ID: <874ofgvodz.fsf@cjlinux.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Emacs gnus in 8.1 not reading email X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:02:52 -0000 I am experimenting with 8.1 in VirtualBox, but I discovered that I can't get gnus to work. I just brought over my configuration from a working 7.3 system, but on 8.1 it won't read the mail from the system. Gnus will start up, but it just reports that there is no mail. It did work one time with a couple of test messages, but I have never gotten it to repeat since then. I tried sending a couple of messages and they show up in my system mailbox. I also tried reading my system mail with the command line mail program and emacs rmail to verify that the system is handling mail properly. I also tried using a blank .gnus file and there was no change. I verified with my 7.3 system that gnus will at least read mail with a blank .gnus file. Does anybody have any suggestions on what is different? I have been using gnus for many years and I don't really want to change to another mail program. Thanks for any ideas. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 18:12:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FE11065673 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:12:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edflecko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2DD18FC13 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:12:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so912179gxk.13 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:12:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=euLyPmDr8BoxRfCDdXD40tgGhSS/Kz19KuAb43HWBMM=; b=a0fgk5TPI7iOwg8JxXC8f48EhLAjqp9sa1wtiCZbdS4ZHV5T6VEz2eYMo5aHEHmFDM SmfJEATGtBlWDKHQaGL7eLnuNFo4PMu97PdswLzyAuholV7G+EImQeLaPMUTt2GXI4K7 eRNEjbkY6yIY8jF5LZfMqUtH919jYVgrJEmPI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=uACxK+FDWVzmuMtwqL1KGoth2Nf3tMsSNpq77i+NJG4oB3jtdVvOkkF9Bku+tXRP5E heb6bQ2Sh/D/sJ+ORWMIQZFzdBn0HzqtBM2k8wnBPAjfl2z54DoNTUeleLWg2BgAJmlX 07wyECu+rHzfWhMRvhp7vNCbViXEMd7U9OJW0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.170.3 with SMTP id x3mr2655023ano.142.1280513556154; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.118.98 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:12:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100730175404.GA32794@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20100730175404.GA32794@slackbox.erewhon.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:12:36 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ed Flecko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Correct syntax of "supfile" to keep ports upgraded? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:12:37 -0000 Thank you Roland; I didn't know portsnap is part of the base install. :-) >From a book that I have (Absolute FreeBSD - 2nd Edition), it says" PORTSNAP VS. CSUP Use either portsnap(8) or csup(1) to update the Ports Collection, but not both. The two tools are incompatible. csup is most useful if you are tracking -stable or -current, while portsnap is best for production systems where you use binary updates. You can make either portsnap(8) or csup(1) work in either situation, but you must pick one and stick with it!" Does this apply to me, since I'm following the "errata" branch (*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8_0) and up update, I use the following command: csup -4 /etc/stable-supfile Maybe I should use cvsup (cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/stable-supfile) instead so I can use portsnap??? What do you think? Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 18:17:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C8A106566B for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from repcsike@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DF78FC15 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so1145774fxm.13 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:17:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QTvTzeCxybwtYcqmamgdjWl1g9vLbR6sP2F2Qj4YbCk=; b=Rv/p8IslqWQ0FcUbom218aPdodA7eKNvNAWxw9n01lyICS5SYmkXgf4P9myR9+f19/ EUDZYuYqvpAnF4hhIKw9l8W7WncTlvMPoNqRooi50xBTU4NnfBbDDTuuP+WBwdqUXS7x gnIpXZDXxl9HfBPcmX2EuS98iJaUgJvwmzv1Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aMIGynWS4D5VfVACQx7a+vrncGgtPywo3yInL3UCzFYLbeJ6/GzLzP/AUQrT8O3vgQ 3EMEyS8FJ5FJ9dt52Wpf4D/m5M2pyJT63XXXGBiPEn8vNyrCLxk/NltQCd1J0WEz7KIB VvZYK8mO/WMAQxXaVEQMR8ejiHvM3ud/bBPoY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.121.147 with SMTP id h19mr2476041far.76.1280513834056; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.122.82 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:17:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100730175404.GA32794@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20100730175404.GA32794@slackbox.erewhon.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:17:13 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?QmFs4XpzIE3hdOlmZnk=?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Correct syntax of "supfile" to keep ports upgraded? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:17:16 -0000 Hi, If you want to stick with cvsup, or csup, you can use the example port updating supfile (if you have the example files). for example: csup -L 2 -g -h cvsup10.us.freebsd.org/usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile You can check the example file, what csup or cvsup needs in the supfile, and in what form :). If You have no ports, a "portsnap fetch extract" is much much faster, because its fetching the ports in one file as tar.gz and extracting ig, but csup and cvsup checks Your port files and downloads only the files that are outdated. When getting ports the first time (if you sad no for sysinstall to install ports), it's recommended to use portsnap to ease the load on the CVS servers, but noone will knock on Your head if You use cvs anyway :). Hope this helps! Regards, MB. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 18:18:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A95331065679 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:18:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573DF8FC16 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4so913102gyg.13 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:18:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=oKuYwyJYFRnoAkQEXweAO1Mzd12LMceCgfBfu5TepLY=; b=HCwFEe5rspojaUHlmTo5JaJWvuH94XYce7X6x0IxnxxOkTBkIePMkvpy66YUeZ2tdv L4e06KN+VcxJJ7wN2H/95YfiGmkaOerwLYfPHT0MadYOdXyL7O85XBoySNfzTOHwBnc3 P2b99Hm94Vwp763ss4s+jzD1FD5TtDIWTkpo0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=f4lrsDXVQpJoVeA5p3o9jWmwRph3yQIMdSd5lhbVA+DsdGsfre97pyWqFiG8RwebQr ZBFSlJ+KI9LViVlUeQgvoung+91SmSL6v2DcjffIkZFTEbE/vqGoHqrFutQPq1Shoj18 t4kej/2iX3RbNa2UNDt38WQPqXM0VSR03UBSI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.218.20 with SMTP id q20mr3580761ybg.436.1280513885372; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.107.12 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:18:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100730175404.GA32794@slackbox.erewhon.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:18:05 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Ed Flecko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Correct syntax of "supfile" to keep ports upgraded? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:18:06 -0000 On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Ed Flecko wrote: > Thank you Roland; I didn't know portsnap is part of the base install. > > :-) > > >From a book that I have (Absolute FreeBSD - 2nd Edition), it says" > > PORTSNAP VS. CSUP > Use either portsnap(8) or csup(1) to update the Ports Collection, but > not both. The > two tools are incompatible. This line is correct > csup is most useful if you are tracking > -stable or -current, > This line is an opinion, one I disagree with. > while portsnap is best for production systems where you use binary updates. > > This is also an opinion, but I agree with it. Just use portsnap unless you're used to doing the old way. First time run: portsnap fetch extract anytime you want to update thereafter: portsnap fetch update -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 18:19:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005B010656AC for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:19:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4308FC19 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:19:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman-macbook.local ([10.0.0.173]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6UIJjZE082640 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:19:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C5317C0.9010303@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:19:44 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carl Johnson References: <878w4svp18.fsf@cjlinux.localnet> In-Reply-To: <878w4svp18.fsf@cjlinux.localnet> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPv6 rtadv on FreeBSD 8.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:19:48 -0000 On 30/07/2010 18:48, Carl Johnson wrote: > I have running versions of 7.3 and 8.0, so I tried experimenting with > 8.1 in VirtualBox, but I ran into a couple of problems. I have an 8.0 > system that is running a IPv6 tunnel to sixxs.net, and it is running > rtadvd to act as the gatway for my network. On the 8.1 system I > enabled IPv6 in rc.conf, but it is not picking up the advertised > address. I can add it manually, and have put it in rc.local for now, > but it seems it should work automatically as my others do. I noticed > that the ifconfig output shows a new line that is not in 8.0: > nd6 options=3 > > Is there something that has changed in 8.1 that I have to enable, or > is there a problem with 8.1? IPv6 is working to the extent that it > did assign a link-local address, and I can use that address as long as > I specify the interface. My configuration is the same, and I didn't > have to enable anything on the others to get the global address > assigned automatically. > > Thanks for any advice. > I dont knw if its expected or not but try running sysctl net.inet6.ip6.accept_rtadv=1 (to make it persistent echo "net.inet6.ip6.accept_rtadv=1" >> /etc/sysctl.conf ) Vince From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 18:39:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F787106566C for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:39:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9BF8FC19 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:38:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14421 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2010 18:38:59 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Jul 2010 18:38:59 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 1D34D5084D; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:38:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Ed Flecko References: Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:38:56 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Ed Flecko's message of "Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:20:57 -0700") Message-ID: <44pqy47r27.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Correct syntax of "supfile" to keep ports upgraded? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:39:00 -0000 Ed Flecko writes: > To keep my "ports" up to date, do I simply need to add: > > ports-all tag=. > > to this file before running csup or cvsup? Yes. Or just use /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 18:39:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BD71065672 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:39:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 401A28FC1A for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:38:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6UIcvHG076162; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:38:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 969C8BA94; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:38:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:38:57 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Ed Flecko Message-ID: <20100730183857.GA33855@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20100730175404.GA32794@slackbox.erewhon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Correct syntax of "supfile" to keep ports upgraded? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:39:00 -0000 --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:12:36AM -0700, Ed Flecko wrote: > Thank you Roland; I didn't know portsnap is part of the base install. >=20 > :-) >=20 > >From a book that I have (Absolute FreeBSD - 2nd Edition), it says" >=20 > PORTSNAP VS. CSUP > Use either portsnap(8) or csup(1) to update the Ports Collection, but > not both. Correct. > The two tools are incompatible.=20 I'd say using both is useless, but OK. > csup is most useful if you are tracking > -stable or -current, while portsnap is best for production systems where = you > use binary updates.=20 This is misleading, IMHO. Yes, csup is best for tracking the system source,= but that has nothing to do with ports. Portsnap is much faster than csup for po= rts, regardless if you are using packages or if you compile everything yourself! One thing to keep in mind is that "The Ports Collection supports the latest release on the FreeBSD-CURRENT and FreeBSD-STABLE branches." (quoting from http://www.freebsd.org/ports/). Maybe this is what the author is referring = to? If so I think it poorly worded. What I would suggest is: * portsnap for keeping the ports tree updated * csup for updating the FreeBSD sources * portmaster for upgrading installed ports (by compiling from source) Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxTHEEACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUnfgCeIs5OeFckn5BOr5waTjQUcA1L t0sAnA32+ubZeUlIquImplZaENupfMEs =qEhc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 20:41:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A498E1065670 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:41:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gurpreet007@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA248FC0C for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:41:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwa36 with SMTP id 36so408486wwa.31 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:41:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=NQBsuUhDvXtNIZfd0OTbjJFdTA/Wuhf/3arNb7Bv23w=; b=XDkhYgu/FojtDQ4BrMhWiRTVkCL6d0Put51VmFNKv9O9PlwGjDEES51WIe7L26opTH 1Q1FpMUr9dI7/BjGxMV/VFiDEZsyJAATzyTt/yZTnjQ/vh/JzsPdy9HbdkHcfx0MIxMa Cczzl2TAZ1gH9iS8gqhHrScCFh1fiJSBJumsM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Eg/RHHYEfae1HeRWy3ESazFL34L3Yd3SN9B4N/7dkMsJTCXnxGLfj/nlaBO5rFeRbr IEH9kE0Z4LF9QV7swWYgu80UNr5YY4vOtVH+8dPP85lRmkX3ifxBF8TXqMTPSM0QSk2l Gjoht5j/6oNGH1lvxGgPhDst/FDZej1gac8oM= Received: by 10.216.193.195 with SMTP id k45mr2205317wen.32.1280522496156; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:41:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.165.73 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:41:16 -0700 (PDT) From: me Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:11:16 +0530 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: sudo -K/-k ineffective X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:41:37 -0000 Hi, Upon doing sudo as a normal user (non-root), sudo asks for password only once, subsequent invocations of sudo doesn't ask for password - even though I do sudo -k or sudo -K in between. Although sudo starts asking for password after the time stamp expiry. in other words: % sudo mkdir /newdir % sudo -k % sudo -K % sudo mkdir /another_new_dir In sudoers file, NOPASSWD is NOT set. here is my sudeors file: http://pastebin.com/WFnXCLE1 Output of "uname -a": FreeBSD foo.bar 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Jul 19 02:55:53 UTC 2010 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Is this known bug? If not, then it might have security implications. Regards, Gurpreet Singh -- Life is not fair. Get used to it. .... Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 21:55:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE711065672 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:55:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tobias.rehbein@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A678FC0A for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:55:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp05.web.de ( [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A8C16D19E73 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:22:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [95.88.225.161] (helo=sushi.pseudo.local) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.110 #24) id 1Oex2a-00073q-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:22:52 +0200 Received: from sushi.pseudo.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sushi.pseudo.local (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6ULMp8A001846 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:22:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tobi@sushi.pseudo.local) Received: (from tobi@localhost) by sushi.pseudo.local (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o6ULMpNo001845 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:22:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tobi) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:22:51 +0200 From: Tobias Rehbein To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100730212251.GA1648@sushi.pseudo.local> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: tobias.rehbein@web.de X-Sender: tobias.rehbein@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+4vvmrSb05w97/dD6oSpfmpJTktjFsptUmCEao VuH+wEhRIaKHm9eCxr3735yMxL3SO+wy+lK6/HlCYDWSkdm3Zt bZrIDtkwG5D15z10EP6w== Subject: vidcontrol / vesa mode regression in 8.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:55:30 -0000 --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi list. I just upgraded my laptop to FreeBSD 8.1 and this time it's the first time I actually have a regression: I can't switch my console to high resolution us= ing vidcontrol or allscreen_flags in rc.conf. My kernel configuration contains VESA and SC_PIXEL_MODE: tobi@sushi [/usr/src/sys/i386/conf] > egrep "(SC_|VESA)" SUSHI=20 options VESA options SC_PIXEL_MODE With basically the same kernelconfig I could use the following call in Free= BSD 8.0 to switch my console to a higher resolution: vidcontrol MODE_279 This no longer works. The display gets black and I can't see anything. Nonetheless I can enter commands which are executed. I just don't get any v= isual feedback. So I can at least reboot after experimenting with vidcontrol ;) I tried several modes and it seems it's the VESA modes which are misbehavin= g. I played with hint.sc.0.vesa_mode which is mentioned in the release notes but= I honestly don't know how to use it. Any hints on this issue? I will provide further information if you tell me = what you need. Thanks in advance, Tobias --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxTQqoACgkQ6LYxOE8q4xSb4ACeKinmNz3gvfKlcoIXEkZWU8Hn QsAAn3YlImGt6W4Fg8og/3oMoRV+at/z =/Ou1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 22:00:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121AE1065673 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:00:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931A68FC12 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:00:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1179909bwz.13 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:00:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:received :reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=l7AVmWz06HoLU0CIX+o4Xu49wohyfggmGtBdh/X79zg=; b=MAhUAce2rUoo80c+R5n6jHD9KrR8Y9au9wZzZ4qcsPRJbgYsgoRuSfaNjzazqDvM1D NuFDDpqHPcan6n/UM13rTu8LtlcAJXU0zEGgTv2ZHFfN95GUrRgr1QaYQl/hokrGW+f+ GQoyiZmaSi/FEy/ys2FsMu3R9hXMziDIPEM6Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=W6BwvQi7BZu7hUwFLZ7ikho1QK65nZMDSa7yaQHI9bkoisuzO90KcTicMMYh5RTnJE 0ZK/+JcO6RYvr/BjPU+tfvbHdUOx0nNENixuWS9WEMAy0031kvT2aXU8GA+qKPYqYvEZ b54YrwYRKmWFgkk+/hJPYwkEcF026extfaIbA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.59.2 with SMTP id j2mr1506662bkh.199.1280527213414; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.162.193 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.162.193 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:00:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:00:13 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: me Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sudo -K/-k ineffective X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:00:15 -0000 It's by design. There's a timeout that you can set, try man sudo. Chris -------- Sorry for top-posting, Android won't let me quote, but K-9 can't yet do threading. On 30 Jul 2010 21:43, "me" wrote: Hi, Upon doing sudo as a normal user (non-root), sudo asks for password only once, subsequent invocations of sudo doesn't ask for password - even though I do sudo -k or sudo -K in between. Although sudo starts asking for password after the time stamp expiry. in other words: % sudo mkdir /newdir % sudo -k % sudo -K % sudo mkdir /another_new_dir In sudoers file, NOPASSWD is NOT set. here is my sudeors file: http://pastebin.com/WFnXCLE1 Output of "uname -a": FreeBSD foo.bar 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Jul 19 02:55:53 UTC 2010 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Is this known bug? If not, then it might have security implications. Regards, Gurpreet Singh -- Life is not fair. Get used to it. .... Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 22:50:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF75A106564A for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:50:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from redcondor1.peak.org (redcondor1.peak.org [69.59.192.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C46618FC15 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:50:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from peak-mail-gateway.peak.org ([69.59.192.42]) by redcondor1.peak.org ({e03e86cd-14ae-47ce-9578-3c080ce9c462}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20100730225040898 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:50:40 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from cjlinux.localnet (207.55.91.197.peak.org [207.55.91.197] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by peak-mail-gateway.peak.org (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id o6UModZI015224 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:50:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carlj by cjlinux.localnet with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OeyPX-0004Qg-9T for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:50:39 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <878w4svp18.fsf@cjlinux.localnet> <4C5317C0.9010303@unsane.co.uk> From: Carl Johnson Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:50:39 -0700 In-Reply-To: <4C5317C0.9010303@unsane.co.uk> (Vincent Hoffman's message of "Fri\, 30 Jul 2010 19\:19\:44 +0100") Message-ID: <87zkx8twhs.fsf@cjlinux.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: IPv6 rtadv on FreeBSD 8.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:50:42 -0000 Vincent Hoffman writes: > On 30/07/2010 18:48, Carl Johnson wrote: >> I have running versions of 7.3 and 8.0, so I tried experimenting with >> 8.1 in VirtualBox, but I ran into a couple of problems. I have an 8.0 >> system that is running a IPv6 tunnel to sixxs.net, and it is running >> rtadvd to act as the gatway for my network. On the 8.1 system I >> enabled IPv6 in rc.conf, but it is not picking up the advertised >> address. I can add it manually, and have put it in rc.local for now, >> but it seems it should work automatically as my others do. I noticed >> that the ifconfig output shows a new line that is not in 8.0: >> nd6 options=3 >> >> Is there something that has changed in 8.1 that I have to enable, or >> is there a problem with 8.1? IPv6 is working to the extent that it >> did assign a link-local address, and I can use that address as long as >> I specify the interface. My configuration is the same, and I didn't >> have to enable anything on the others to get the global address >> assigned automatically. >> >> Thanks for any advice. >> > I dont knw if its expected or not but try running > sysctl net.inet6.ip6.accept_rtadv=1 > > (to make it persistent echo "net.inet6.ip6.accept_rtadv=1" >> > /etc/sysctl.conf ) I had already checked that and it is enabled by default, but thanks for the suggestion anyways. It also turns out that I was wrong about it working with manual configuration. I forgot that the automatic configuration sets up the external routing, and I haven't figured out how to do that manually. So it works for my internal network, but nowhere else. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 23:18:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960E2106566B for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531148FC13 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6UNIcF7007354; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:18:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o6UNIcMt007351; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:18:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:18:38 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Roland Smith In-Reply-To: <20100730065135.GA51952@slackbox.erewhon.net> Message-ID: References: <20100730065135.GA51952@slackbox.erewhon.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.5 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:18:38 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AHCI and Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:18:39 -0000 On Fri, 30 Jul 2010, Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 08:29:37PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: >> The Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L has an ICH7, one PATA port, and four SATA >> ports. This one now has the latest BIOS, F10. >> >> Is it possible to run AHCI on this motherboard and chipset? > > Only some ICH7 chipsets are able to run with AHCI. Looks like only the ICH7R and ICH7D variants. > Check the 'atapci' devices in the output of 'pciconf -lv'. Only if it says > "subclass = SATA" below "class=mass storage", it is AHCI capable. This plain ICH7 says "subclass = ATA". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 00:14:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0A11065679 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E345E8FC0A for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:14:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o6V0EKvU033282 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:14:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o6V0EKee033281; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA09077; Fri, 30 Jul 10 17:09:28 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:09:22 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: renaud.luca@gmail.com Message-Id: <4c5369b2.Oi6hQsvXggHJNiAK%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are there tools for binary update(security etc.) of applications? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:14:21 -0000 Luca Renaud wrote: > I updated my system from FreeBSD 8.0 to 8.1 using the tool > freebsd-update. As far as I know this tool only updates the > core system and user land utilities, thus, all other apps > are not updated. Correct. > I use the gnome desktop, and I regularly receive the warning from > Software Updater that I have 240, or so, applications not updated > etc., and if I want to update them. My question is: update them > through the ports system? (compiling them all?) or binary update? > Are there tools capable of doing that using the command line? > (binary update of apps not in the core system or userland > utilities, but also important regarding security questions, for > example). Either portmaster or portupgrade can update using pre-built packages from freebsd.org or its mirrors. Portmaster (having no dependencies) is likely the easier to install, unless you already have ruby installed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 02:04:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE839106566C for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:04:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.mtoth@queldor.net) Received: from queldor.net (queldor.com [216.80.108.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A568FC18 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:04:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-24-34-183-218.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([24.34.183.218] helo=[192.168.1.244]) by queldor.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Of19A-000PPn-Uw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:45:57 -0500 Message-ID: <4C5380D3.2030403@queldor.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:48:03 -0400 From: Michael Toth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9pre) Gecko/20100217 Lightning/1.0b2pre Shredder/3.0.3pre MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: sudo -K/-k ineffective X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:04:39 -0000 On 07/30/2010 06:00 PM, Chris Rees wrote: > It's by design. There's a timeout that you can set, try man sudo. > > Chris > > -------- Chris, That is not by design. sudo -K should remove the timestamp -- sudo -K The -K (sure kill) option is like -k except that it removes the user's time stamp entirely and may not be used in conjunction with a command or other option. This option does not require a password. -- Gurpreet, I am not sure if this is a known bug, I was not able to duplicate this on Freebsd 7.2 running sudo 1.6.9p20 > > Sorry for top-posting, Android won't let me quote, but K-9 can't yet do > threading. > > On 30 Jul 2010 21:43, "me" wrote: > > Hi, > > Upon doing sudo as a normal user (non-root), sudo asks for > password only once, subsequent invocations of sudo doesn't ask for password > - even though I do sudo -k or sudo -K in between. > Although sudo starts asking for password after the time stamp expiry. > > in other words: > > % sudo mkdir /newdir > successful authentication> > > % sudo -k > > % sudo -K > > % sudo mkdir /another_new_dir > > > In sudoers file, NOPASSWD is NOT set. > here is my sudeors file: http://pastebin.com/WFnXCLE1 > > Output of "uname -a": > FreeBSD foo.bar 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Jul 19 02:55:53 UTC > 2010 > root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > Is this known bug? If not, then it might have security implications. > > Regards, > Gurpreet Singh > -- > Life is not fair. Get used to it. .... Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll > end up working for one. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 02:36:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AC51065670 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) Received: from pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:5f6:3::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DE18FC14 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:36:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (localhost.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:::1]) by pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D24557378; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:36:41 +0900 (KST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=izb.knu.ac.kr; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s= soyeomul; i=bh@izb.knu.ac.kr; bh=9x8tFUsY4AoYciGHpK1Eqse+1/a480Z ngaTzheUj+LA=; b=UywmkW4u8IWZ9JymiMMlZiWlG7XZdW+6+7rrGpvk92H8wSF Oi1ZDkOU9m4Z6iB3S+XR67RmKoYvTdowQlycPA+wFcvD+vQKthbHVahy4ZbzMdEi 9xsrCR1zF1OgA8cym79c5Ahd0XP6+7COcN9OVX1e8qXkD4dQ8fDbAmSGp/ow= Received: from rhodo.izb.knu.ac.kr (rhodo.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:5f8:3::2]) by pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC6A57375; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:36:40 +0900 (KST) Received: from betla.home (unknown [59.24.179.141]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) by rhodo.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5441CD73; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:36:38 +0900 (KST) From: Byung-Hee HWANG To: Carl Johnson Organization: GR References: <874ofgvodz.fsf@cjlinux.localnet> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEVMM2UIAhGJrpkJDwsD AwgJAggKPnwFBAIEBAQJAjTkRM0eAAACN0lEQVQ4jW3Tv2sbMRQHcPnSDt78bMWctkOBgDc7 10I8Cl6DOpZm6RgPBx4LgbrjUbVVNiuXHNF/2yfJzqnEwmDfffyV9PSD2UNTfuu9A/65cT39 AnZ4j8pTcxzM/HlO4F8BnAcHCK14CuBeQXAFAJwbg/MmS2igEDWtrfZ9PyQiiJCxei1o+CNY bUJX4J1Cr8TQlbWmFZ3vijFwT58c7kW3Z3K84oJrFAPYds8Yk6zmwnGLGai9rApZnaGgBbAZ wF6GdoY3DiADA74IMMa5KzFPGEWDSLmAiSttDkhTqUVxAX+c/g9ER7BeVnzyZAdA5Go9Y+OC ydXNXZlDCetJtfpWyXp6xzNQmkA+i0J+nI7jGJjKVjPfXYUKpXtc3AbQR2CraazQP17StKgr /QpXEZrNAdIY7Wx/HmHR91U2K8XP10BLSEvS94scoPUJvN/mCVSqxiVBBdCzAbDkeG2/XlVy BCA8ZoD4AZdUxYsiABPABNCIhsagnng4LDvL0LYYijdWCZrsRTx3YUnQGh46+0sZ2tv3MZ1A xdKNxnuYFO9onTEClYZpHX//LNjyOiRs2ihzhO9MVnYACqo051YUZwMYhXEW1L7s2XU6LxZv I6g4L1NTeSm7+wUBlCpD3Cyl3KXEqq5ZG+8RhEfBqsN2jrqaQYQ2PH/qRqmnh4auGgjnXPrj j1udunqg887i/daHXTlA+Gbgm8aX9k1jvifQp2Ajm+2pRL+hk3QKGikv3dv3IdE4cwL+ATzH tMu8OktOAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Url: http://izb.knu.ac.kr/~bh/ X-Window-System: GNU Network Object Model Environment Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:36:34 +0900 In-Reply-To: <874ofgvodz.fsf@cjlinux.localnet> (Carl Johnson's message of "Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:02:48 -0700") Message-ID: <86sk302x8t.fsf@betla.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Emacs gnus in 8.1 not reading email X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:36:43 -0000 Carl Johnson writes: > I am experimenting with 8.1 in VirtualBox, but I discovered that I > can't get gnus to work. I just brought over my configuration from a > working 7.3 system, but on 8.1 it won't read the mail from the > system. Gnus will start up, but it just reports that there is no > mail. It did work one time with a couple of test messages, but I have > never gotten it to repeat since then. > > I tried sending a couple of messages and they show up in my system > mailbox. I also tried reading my system mail with the command line > mail program and emacs rmail to verify that the system is handling > mail properly. I also tried using a blank .gnus file and there was no > change. I verified with my 7.3 system that gnus will at least read > mail with a blank .gnus file. > > Does anybody have any suggestions on what is different? I have been > using gnus for many years and I don't really want to change to another > mail program. Thanks for any ideas. Hi, i'm on 8.1-RELEASE. There is no problem. --=20 =EC=86=8C=EC=97=AC=EB=AC=BC =ED=99=A9=EB=B3=91=ED=9D=AC(=E9=BB=83=E7=82=B3= =E7=86=99) | .. =EC=B6=9C=ED=95=AD 15=EB=B6=84=EC=A0=84.. "I can give you some money to help you move, is that what you want?" "I want you to speak to the landlord to let me stay." -- Vito Corleone and Mrs. Colombo, "Chapter 14", page 207 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 04:09:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2495F1065675 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 04:09:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from redcondor1.peak.org (redcondor1.peak.org [69.59.192.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1CE98FC1E for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 04:09:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from peak-mail-gateway.peak.org ([69.59.192.41]) by redcondor1.peak.org ({e03e86cd-14ae-47ce-9578-3c080ce9c462}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20100731040903284 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 04:09:03 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from cjlinux.localnet (207.55.91.197.peak.org [207.55.91.197] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by peak-mail-gateway.peak.org (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id o6V4915V041864 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carlj by cjlinux.localnet with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Of3Nd-0001sN-B0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:09:01 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <874ofgvodz.fsf@cjlinux.localnet> <86sk302x8t.fsf@betla.home> From: Carl Johnson Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:09:01 -0700 In-Reply-To: <86sk302x8t.fsf@betla.home> (Byung-Hee HWANG's message of "Sat\, 31 Jul 2010 11\:36\:34 +0900") Message-ID: <87vd7wthr6.fsf@cjlinux.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Emacs gnus in 8.1 not reading email X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 04:09:07 -0000 Byung-Hee HWANG writes: > Carl Johnson writes: > >> I am experimenting with 8.1 in VirtualBox, but I discovered that I >> can't get gnus to work. I just brought over my configuration from a >> working 7.3 system, but on 8.1 it won't read the mail from the >> system. Gnus will start up, but it just reports that there is no >> mail. It did work one time with a couple of test messages, but I have >> never gotten it to repeat since then. >> >> I tried sending a couple of messages and they show up in my system >> mailbox. I also tried reading my system mail with the command line >> mail program and emacs rmail to verify that the system is handling >> mail properly. I also tried using a blank .gnus file and there was no >> change. I verified with my 7.3 system that gnus will at least read >> mail with a blank .gnus file. >> >> Does anybody have any suggestions on what is different? I have been >> using gnus for many years and I don't really want to change to another >> mail program. Thanks for any ideas. > > Hi, i'm on 8.1-RELEASE. There is no problem. I am also talking about 8.1-RELEASE, so I don't what is causing my problems then. I am using amd64, but I don't see how 32 bit vs 64 bit could be making a difference. Thanks for your comment. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 05:59:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA0A106567A for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 05:59:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swell.k@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E42C8FC14 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 05:58:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1281177bwz.13 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:58:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:references :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=sJzAe8qlFm1HJ5dCUNMvkmsoMOSD8fkRN8w0C9LB0OU=; b=FdtRBnp9xZnTbRpONdsVrJd65gHQ4wGwl7MebCD4kknGp1bfHlhCUC/+Zc2xpGPG5r /YCxoY1QkenfKCSDQmWSuZTVv6ruMXhL9uli6OG8Fxx/7zPzhfEMhjpf9huVND+rW6Lw A2/MG/MTtKFpapHBI88NMB7IohHAn00Ng1eyE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=s6L27IppJrkCGJdOP4Jtda+bG3mahULe73vjwaJd+0+gwHc7n5hLy4rN7xeKE1Qc15 tw5o4efxcOgE+QGm9afXPNez4tBoxq4kLXGyS9PYIoztIbf5RHC1SqfR0fowkAzC1cp6 +BjduHQeHao4LT2c3c4PnVJPOxzDZJmxOUBTs= Received: by 10.204.127.71 with SMTP id f7mr1855957bks.139.1280555936807; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([78.142.140.194]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a11sm2129878bkc.0.2010.07.30.22.58.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:58:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Anonymous To: Carl Johnson References: <874ofgvodz.fsf@cjlinux.localnet> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:58:51 +0400 In-Reply-To: <874ofgvodz.fsf@cjlinux.localnet> (Carl Johnson's message of "Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:02:48 -0700") Message-ID: <864ofgdwf8.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Emacs gnus in 8.1 not reading email X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 05:59:00 -0000 Carl Johnson writes: > I am experimenting with 8.1 in VirtualBox, but I discovered that I > can't get gnus to work. I just brought over my configuration from a > working 7.3 system, but on 8.1 it won't read the mail from the > system. Gnus will start up, but it just reports that there is no > mail. It did work one time with a couple of test messages, but I have > never gotten it to repeat since then. > > I tried sending a couple of messages and they show up in my system > mailbox. I also tried reading my system mail with the command line > mail program and emacs rmail to verify that the system is handling > mail properly. I also tried using a blank .gnus file and there was no > change. I verified with my 7.3 system that gnus will at least read > mail with a blank .gnus file. Try without ~/.newsrc.eld. BTW, what backend do you use for reading mail? nnmaildir? > > Does anybody have any suggestions on what is different? I have been > using gnus for many years and I don't really want to change to another > mail program. Thanks for any ideas. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 07:07:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569B01065673 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 07:07:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D448FC0A for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 07:07:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1294424bwz.13 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:07:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:received :reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=Id6bR3/6+Ekj5X2/Zgcq6vJJ4aKteBfsARLIrIVes1M=; b=N4trHOTLDOsHJNkZfynju7xSl8ujF1iKJpb0d5zUvsGvFDJwunDMfil5PvC+YRBfEM u5X5n+1G2zflu15NDg4XWjWGYKZxKeJWUXJrtk8ctg6WWYJTM9s25bj8GEihZYhv4ure isZO7vZ/IB2rjNpuOzmy6MlJ70N1RSAn3lYt4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=bjUqjEBcaIPY8e1VWvAX77n13N2jI7uDXOWI3dBqnXVQeNxltJm21Ib4/bYGMNaDzP fTCRLJpWnPJEV/KtVQp3OiLpqKr9xzLy7E3Cpsp2Ui56n7JDiBO9vkP7EkGctdCnQmWX mFvYlI+dPogXKSJaTJESFNey5b27Cth+Mo4Lg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.101.72 with SMTP id b8mr1811636bko.192.1280560035618; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.162.193 with HTTP; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.162.193 with HTTP; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:07:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C5380D3.2030403@queldor.net> References: <4C5380D3.2030403@queldor.net> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:07:15 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: Michael Toth Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sudo -K/-k ineffective X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 07:07:17 -0000 ... I'm no longer going to answer questions past 11 o'clock GMT. Sorry! Chris -------- Sorry for top-posting, Android won't let me quote, but K-9 can't yet do threading. On 31 Jul 2010 03:05, "Michael Toth" wrote: On 07/30/2010 06:00 PM, Chris Rees wrote: > > It's by design. There's a timeout that you can set, ... Chris, That is not by design. sudo -K should remove the timestamp -- sudo -K The -K (sure kill) option is like -k except that it removes the user's time stamp entirely and may not be used in conjunction with a command or other option. This option does not require a password. -- Gurpreet, I am not sure if this is a known bug, I was not able to duplicate this on Freebsd 7.2 running sudo 1.6.9p20 > > Sorry for top-posting, Android won't let me quote, but K-9 can't yet do > threading. > > On 30... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 09:11:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D1B1065A56 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:11:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C177B8FC0C for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:11:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o6V9B6NP082667 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:11:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o6V9B6pM082666 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA10398; Sat, 31 Jul 10 02:03:14 PDT Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:03:07 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4c53e6cb.k5OptNHSFC2DYzzX%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Installing 8.1-RELEASE from the memstick X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:11:08 -0000 When installing from the 8.1-RELEASE memstick, what is the correct selection for Installation Media? I'm not finding any mention of memstick in the Handbook. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 09:40:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8651065676 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:40:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFAA8FC18 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:40:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o6V9ej9t084847 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:40:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o6V9ejdK084846 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA10505; Sat, 31 Jul 10 02:39:02 PDT Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:38:55 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4c53ef2f.bblzdu2k2iMBdNzW%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Installing a system to use both gjournal and gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:40:46 -0000 I've read the Handbook sections on gmirror and gjournal, and the gjournal-desktop article, and I'm still unclear on how to go about setting up a configuration that uses both. * Since I haven't started the installation -- thus the partitions haven't even been created yet -- it seems as if it "should" be possible to put the journals in the same partitions with the data. * Since I can't mirror or journal a FAT32 slice AFAIK, and there seems little point in mirroring swap or /tmp, I think I want to end up with something along the lines of (on identical drives ad0 and ad2): ad0 ad2 ad0s1 FAT32 ad0s2 FreeBSD ad2s1 FreeBSD ad0s2a <----- gm0 -----> ad2s1a | +-----------------+ | | ad0s2b swap ad2s1b swap | ad0s2c [whole slice] ad2s1c [whole slice] | ad2s1d /tmp [same size as ad0s1] v gm0 gm0s1 gm0s1a gm0s1a.journal [gjournal label ad0s1a ad0s1a] rootFS gm0s1c [whole mirror] gm0s1d gm0s1d.journal [gjournal label ad0s1a ad0s1a] /var gm0s1e gm0s1e.journal [gjournal label ad0s1a ad0s1a] /usr How do I go about doing something like this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 13:54:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B2F106564A for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 13:54:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F90A8FC1A for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 13:54:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe42 with SMTP id 42so1136282yxe.13 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 06:54:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=dfuE0wHZuph8opPb+6XDy6Z4yeIztwcS981vsdpf/xA=; b=am/qczK7BRrSCkiBBTs7Iq/Q1LUnpIx0q1zEns6+5medrijNmfTVB+FLCz/21P71jE eFHh2jGeueiBLLaNSu4Z1PFT1TD8qKEac18MWZhmDMEZVlFUMBm4AaFYBUqSJINZ0wZT JJotoZo0QusId7CG+JcVEYATmFWY7Quta/jqk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Ate2z9UWB6jigUq8dcilMylweh8phFlu+km042MupQbYQs1MWvIItXvc3uOn93RsQC qUoShuRdmXoHmMZprTgB7kmudA2SetoBAJeuw9fLjKJ5o6w/o+MC2uSd2t4oBkvRZQMt 5zmzk70CL0eur6sdvwL1uOZzhBxJrsBMxXl/E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.7.18 with SMTP id 18mr4650806ybg.250.1280584480283; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 06:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.107.12 with HTTP; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 06:54:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4c53ef2f.bblzdu2k2iMBdNzW%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4c53ef2f.bblzdu2k2iMBdNzW%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:54:40 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing a system to use both gjournal and gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 13:54:41 -0000 On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 4:38 AM, wrote: > I've read the Handbook sections on gmirror and gjournal, and the > gjournal-desktop article, and I'm still unclear on how to go about > setting up a configuration that uses both. > > * Since I haven't started the installation -- thus the partitions > haven't even been created yet -- it seems as if it "should" be > possible to put the journals in the same partitions with the data. > > * Since I can't mirror or journal a FAT32 slice AFAIK, You can do both to it, it just won't be able to handle the journal. Mirroring is just fine. GEOM stuff works at the block level making it filesystem independant. > and there > seems little point in mirroring swap or /tmp, I think I want to > end up with something along the lines of (on identical drives ad0 > and ad2): > While you are correct there isn't much point in mirroring swap and tmp, there also isn't much point in trying to save the space either. It's not very much relatively and if you use it for something else you impact the performance of your disks. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/gjournal-desktop/ -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 14:40:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642F51065670 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:40:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7B78FC19 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:40:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6VEe1BT022721; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:40:01 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6VEe0p0022716; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:40:01 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 92A1E33C3D; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:40:00 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:40:00 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-ID: <20100731144000.GA72402@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: perryh@pluto.rain.com, kline@thought.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> <20100729154316.GA14636@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4c523414.+6ssV66YESO4HEsi%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4c523414.+6ssV66YESO4HEsi%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: kline@thought.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ok, i give up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:40:04 -0000 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:08:20PM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > Frank Shute wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 07:04:51PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog > > > than i had YEARS ago. cannot find. > > > > > > it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii. things like > > > > > > > > > > > > # Bill's birthday: > > > 08 08 echo "Send Bill a birthday card. > > > > > > # watch one-time broadcast!! > > > 08 09 2010 echo: "Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours" > > > > > > > ... > > deskutils/ical ? > > Good program, but probably not what the OP had in mind. > ical's .calendar file, while ascii, is in a structured > format which would be a bit of a pain to edit by hand; > and I don't recall its being set up to send email. > No, it's not able to send email AFAIK. If Gary just wants reminders of when to take pills, then I would recommend him to use at(1) and get it to call a file which calls xmessage at the correct times of day. E.g. that file contains: export DISPLAY=":0.0" xmessage -geom 100x100+100+100 "Take pills!" or if you want to use email use mail(1) and at(1) I don't think anybodys mentioned at(1). It's in base and not a port, xmessage is a port. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 14:55:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E551065741 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:55:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (asmtp3.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758CD8FC0C for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:55:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6VEtCm9005978; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:55:12 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6VEtBhq005973; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:55:12 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9F09D33C3D; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:55:11 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:55:11 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Mario Lobo Message-ID: <20100731145511.GB72402@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Mario Lobo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <20100729183449.GB22887@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <201007291707.26539.lobo@bsd.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201007291707.26539.lobo@bsd.com.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:55:16 -0000 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 05:07:26PM +0000, Mario Lobo wrote: > > On Thursday 29 July 2010 19:45:02 Antonio Olivares wrote: > > I am sorry but I am now confused, the BSD Logo : > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/layout/images/logo-red.png > > > > is the sex toy right? > > > > Because Beastie just has his pitchfork > > > > Well, don't forget that sado-masochists would find tons of usages for the > pitchfork, maybe even beastie's horns along with it :) > A pitchfork has 2 tines a trident (which is what Beastie carries) has 3. Interestingly, the trident seems to appear in a number of religions. Shiva carries one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shiva_cropped.jpg as does Poseidon IIRC. So maybe Beastie is a disabled Hindu! (missing 2 arms). Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 15:16:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB941065673 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:16:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from web57004.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57004.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 11ED98FC15 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 91327 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Jul 2010 15:16:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1280589396; bh=MeoOqwcMohAriE0kQBIbCBSLFyKRQ/jZhUmBLd5FKg8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DicPqefQs3SzRe6uFGxAe/YfWYZY0YHQojoc8sVeM/CaIQNo0qN3x2mxgFBfwOvIeYmdXEJDucg7av/ZaGgZwp1E6Rr6nLf5B/omgtTG/XBLKaLuCnKzcy232I2eya387ZIkOk4zEcxgyd1QDSQMqIUnYulRRnzO05k2u1+BKLM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qOmi0XDbvFVwDj7Z5aW8KCg28BRndWwggv057/wNsGUnQpmJV0oCTgpHbKHGdo7GAWGDPIkaKCFZDQMBXVs2YHCtIW84RGCWjjkcl8/NuRQcJ3zj6SUd3kvI8Vq2vA+jJVpRRdSA2ztNUMVzPKmlvaM3ZJ3IrhySaMmzyoz3oMc=; Message-ID: <231089.90635.qm@web57004.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: iCJMaIkVM1meJQFBh2gwpUAxf8L1JenG7AZX7sWd0acVIWm 0Yol5g5VSbO9pn0f0vzOBX60og0uBoViRVS42zpygF58e88LN2CpzFZKK2To iajg_MuhKvh09vYak3YoWQOmfCUcID_fPCG3eNNYbJDi.GJU9kvIRJGE1E.S r8d2eOV9iOjrh3n.3TyfDrmft2vc1Wo.YkSTjEIQpsy2UC9sYsjudx5yUDv4 Y9djaM9flyB70SohtZDxwk7yI1F.aNNbW2iYuD3EkJcHD.ROGPWd_ Received: from [219.75.13.127] by web57004.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:16:36 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.2.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:16:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Is KDE 4.4.5 on FreeBSD 8.1 this bad? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:16:37 -0000 Hi all I have installed KDE 4.4.5 from ports (ie. with full compilation) on FreeBSD 8.1 on i386. Once HAL and DBUS is enabled in /etc/rc.conf, behaviour of KDE is surprisingly poor: 1. None of the desktop icons works to launch programs. Eg. Click or double click on Firefox icon does not launch Firefox. I have to right click on the desktop and click on "Run Command" and type firefox to run. 2. Once type firefox on the "Run Command" it doesn't appear until I shake the mouse! Once press enter, it doesn't run firefox till I shake the mouse again. The firefox comes in stages and every stage I have to shake the mouse to continue. Do others experience the same with KDE 4.4.5? Do I have to do some configurations to overcome this issue? Best regards Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 15:53:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41A81065673 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:53:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBE68FC15 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6VFroqJ010111; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:53:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o6VFro6L010108; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:53:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:53:50 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Unga In-Reply-To: <231089.90635.qm@web57004.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <231089.90635.qm@web57004.mail.re3.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.5 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:53:50 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE 4.4.5 on FreeBSD 8.1 this bad? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:53:52 -0000 On Sat, 31 Jul 2010, Unga wrote: > Hi all > > I have installed KDE 4.4.5 from ports (ie. with full compilation) on FreeBSD 8.1 on i386. > > Once HAL and DBUS is enabled in /etc/rc.conf, behaviour of KDE is surprisingly poor: > 2. Once type firefox on the "Run Command" it doesn't appear until I > shake the mouse! Once press enter, it doesn't run firefox till I shake > the mouse again. The firefox comes in stages and every stage I have to > shake the mouse to continue. Remove Option "AllowEmptyInput" from your xorg.conf. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 16:16:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5901065676 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:16:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA738FC25 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o6VGGjsH011351 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:16:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C544C67.5020601@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:16:39 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <4c53ef2f.bblzdu2k2iMBdNzW%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF9FFBDAFEAF5CE0C8CBF32C2" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing a system to use both gjournal and gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:16:51 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF9FFBDAFEAF5CE0C8CBF32C2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 31/07/2010 14:54:40, Adam Vande More wrote: > While you are correct there isn't much point in mirroring swap and tmp,= Well, apart from the small point of being resilient to disk failure... You'ld probably survive /tmp going AWOL with no more than flesh wounds, a little screaming and some gnashing of teeth; but losing your swap area would almost certainly take your machine down hard. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigF9FFBDAFEAF5CE0C8CBF32C2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxUTGwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyjlQCgkANv4vv12quPONLi/Deygh47 s7kAnirM3JG3CRVx6/aXnsF7MDyYD8n3 =4iid -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF9FFBDAFEAF5CE0C8CBF32C2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 16:29:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1609106566B for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:29:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D2B98FC0C for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 46992 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Jul 2010 16:29:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1280593782; bh=HnTJUSm45rqB5VRgyDWfnTiYgPnYzfbOgb3ZZ7/MQ3Y=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dWk9RwV7KMe8aVjmvaZxZd0Ymaf3COsvDvydENR9rSdDA5BZxNpfMLefd3WeH8I1c+Hl7iYmx2eeY9wE2rxZn2G0veorNAe9Y7XWkDNJSGGNnEjdl9JjRJrxCSnV1/LZ4igETNob7PxTK+wy78IY5VfZTQ1ycjSuEkplxLuI3DQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LEVBTFm6m0Nz+Aqvx+mZ2iEho4cPLosMvfZxPtNXrS6+xOolAzV0BjdPSItIMHfPrnEP//WM2OhmTnt63TWN8OgZEZ3ctvtcGweKg5/aVvWD0WmEQH61H+vMWKvQR0qSZw2dibfb5tlPSb0fh3g22CGUi02K0PET3qULevF5DBE=; Message-ID: <895925.46495.qm@web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ShY_G8oVM1nRl7xldLQQE.pclT8_FVr77yMRVMwoQ4n14l7 GVMFNpq6FN9yOYYMWHOdtUdixnDuysEDSWyueKTglF2ZA6ymmQR_qbZ7Mvvh QG2kmJ4qO3Tv01RUaR72oBYptbXdd6HZmzO48TauVcAEPhNQ5IngRQihzTHN S161RIkvfBoz02pOuFN5XYi9uyMQF.mGrkI3eA3qqjuCkFUreuoGpz88S6LR SPgnQA.KaFsY1ruFL1l0ymqvSWRVz5Tt6kVtqiCFZEv32it0uJrXnZbYFOZd 2 Received: from [219.75.13.127] by web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:29:42 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.2.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:29:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE 4.4.5 on FreeBSD 8.1 this bad? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:29:44 -0000 --- On Sat, 7/31/10, Warren Block wrote: > From: Warren Block > Subject: Re: Is KDE 4.4.5 on FreeBSD 8.1 this bad? > To: "Unga" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 11:53 PM > On Sat, 31 Jul 2010, Unga wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > I have installed KDE 4.4.5 from ports (ie. with full > compilation) on FreeBSD 8.1 on i386. > > > > Once HAL and DBUS is enabled in /etc/rc.conf, > behaviour of KDE is surprisingly poor: > > > 2. Once type firefox on the "Run Command" it doesn't > appear until I shake the mouse! Once press enter, it doesn't > run firefox till I shake the mouse again. The firefox comes > in stages and every stage I have to shake the mouse to > continue. > > Remove Option "AllowEmptyInput" from your xorg.conf. > Wow, that made the trick. It works well now. Thank you thousand times :) Best regards Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 16:41:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85AF81065672 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from redcondor1.peak.org (redcondor1.peak.org [69.59.192.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609468FC19 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:41:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from peak-mail-gateway.peak.org ([69.59.192.41]) by redcondor1.peak.org ({e03e86cd-14ae-47ce-9578-3c080ce9c462}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20100731164133577 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:41:33 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from cjlinux.localnet (207.55.91.197.peak.org [207.55.91.197] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by peak-mail-gateway.peak.org (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id o6VGfW5V045620 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carlj by cjlinux.localnet with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfF7s-0000RB-3W for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:41:32 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <874ofgvodz.fsf@cjlinux.localnet> <864ofgdwf8.fsf@gmail.com> From: Carl Johnson Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:41:32 -0700 In-Reply-To: <864ofgdwf8.fsf@gmail.com> (Anonymous's message of "Sat\, 31 Jul 2010 09\:58\:51 +0400") Message-ID: <87r5ijtxhf.fsf@cjlinux.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Emacs gnus in 8.1 not reading email X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:41:34 -0000 Anonymous writes: > Carl Johnson writes: > >> I am experimenting with 8.1 in VirtualBox, but I discovered that I >> can't get gnus to work. I just brought over my configuration from a >> working 7.3 system, but on 8.1 it won't read the mail from the >> system. Gnus will start up, but it just reports that there is no >> mail. It did work one time with a couple of test messages, but I have >> never gotten it to repeat since then. >> >> I tried sending a couple of messages and they show up in my system >> mailbox. I also tried reading my system mail with the command line >> mail program and emacs rmail to verify that the system is handling >> mail properly. I also tried using a blank .gnus file and there was no >> change. I verified with my 7.3 system that gnus will at least read >> mail with a blank .gnus file. > > Try without ~/.newsrc.eld. BTW, what backend do you use for reading mail? > nnmaildir? I just tried it, but there was no difference. I use nnml for the backend, but that is the same for my other test and normal systems. Thanks for the suggestion anyways. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 16:45:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5491065672 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfvining@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3BA8FC12 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:45:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so3185536iwn.13 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:45:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2LLockifuE9Snsjc1NZsV1xDDbHetkO1rtKIqE8vcpE=; b=DFrk+g1aOFVJjJxSbI3ZXBekr5WVFwP0gXGWMje6rRp0/IyOk9fx8d9RWKzvqK9uE/ /4pL8ZOW6G9yCkeZubWSkZGaBm16fcsL2X3+qDY8vTt/b2cd6/rT4ZvPj7IWKjVH9mQm 0CJ97Sj1t/lYLt0MMoh4OslBqB33aIAxk7c4A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Ql3xydpw+XD6OX3M69JLrFx8ciCHJmI73lxva99JnL+UOShAPU8dOnN9hFW3Q3d5I/ fDhOttB1I1zcvOx0zaMlkv3UOrzJ5g+v9ibf5Od/LGrqzSKc85WSwj/4DlgG41ZriFLw /wgOuk9+iL58h77mmU9+GXfgONlDVHzcSkTG0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.191.74 with SMTP id dl10mr3704640ibb.157.1280593160371; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.173.85 with HTTP; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 10:19:20 -0600 Message-ID: From: William Vining To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Unable to kldload linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:45:31 -0000 Hi, I have just upgraded my system to 8.1-RELEASE $ uname -a FreeBSD makalu.abqhomenet 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #10: Thu Jul 29 08:12:40 MDT 2010 root@makalu.abqhomenet:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FRAGMENT amd64 only to find that I cannot load linux.ko # kldload linux kldload: can't load linux: Exec format error I tried compiling it into my kernel and recieved a message that COMPAT_LINUX was not a valid option. Has anybody got any advice/knowledge about this 'exec format error', I've tried recompiling the kernel without success (in loading the module), and I've even compiled the module on its own and was still unable to load it. # kldload /sys/modules/linux/linux.ko kldload: can't load linux: Exec format error I get the same error with the linprocfs and linsysfs modules. Any thoughts? Thanks, Will From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 17:31:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4CD106566B for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0BA48FC28 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1445202bwz.13 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 10:31:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UqTJ6mn4VX7FYMQzMwDcOULdM5UMHNXnA/1jpiGBS00=; b=GEUvXfCuMyAjJkoeDrqYGFHOBXaIWIVltn37K59DhbfWGVPQQFuvz7hKv9yce+itd8 bEOPfUjK8JKLrsjAxR8TT+k7EVfHtBUmtq1GVU3mmGVT9oJuLbJ5GCyLjOYdRBNEGOaU GTEd7FcxDPDGwdvVXbiDMuyBleyZP36CxT+1k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YYphNTvzOAvj7uU/yv75IaXNjB0cTz03h3K35EN4/HfNOCGc0XuFmwrDRBdeJWAbyl ImVZk3VrZspghgje+rEemzXOw+vD2xMZ0HXo6K08d3qtSO53br7yf//7/Z+bj0Q7j2Ve qkzw19P1cjRGLrdftCM8YxvEoAO5YywIKHTNs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.83.167 with SMTP id f39mr2359842bkl.151.1280597477251; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 10:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.64.71 with HTTP; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 10:31:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:31:17 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: William Vining Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Unable to kldload linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:31:19 -0000 On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 6:19 PM, William Vining wrote: > Hi, > > I have just upgraded my system to 8.1-RELEASE > > $ uname -a > FreeBSD makalu.abqhomenet 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #10: Thu Jul > 29 08:12:40 MDT 2010 > root@makalu.abqhomenet:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FRAGMENT =A0amd64 > > only to find that I cannot load linux.ko > > # kldload linux > kldload: can't load linux: Exec format error > > I tried compiling it into my kernel and recieved a message that > COMPAT_LINUX was not a valid option. > > Has anybody got any advice/knowledge about this 'exec format error', > I've tried recompiling the kernel without success (in loading the > module), and I've even compiled the module on its own and was still > unable to load it. > > # kldload /sys/modules/linux/linux.ko > kldload: can't load linux: Exec format error > > I get the same error with the linprocfs and linsysfs modules. Yes, and in addition, they depend on linux.ko > > Any thoughts? Try adding options COMPAT_LINUX32 recompile your kernel and try again. > > Thanks, > Will > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 17:46:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D554106567A for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:46:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B36278FC14 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:46:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 79496 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Jul 2010 17:46:30 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1280598389; bh=cKYJ+JmirpMgUQCirJg9Tq6QKkc1NbN9a6m4tiPS+Uc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oEHWuExQA6LN/ao3BmQ3w4Y8vxf7E/RVcupdiX1+FYx9TShn0EDf2bMadQQovIrCzkAgLdlyOxa0ZAnxWGfLWjV1frhG/Wrub+57xegbNk5W83dYMNR6l1P+eCC+qnI2QqWrOgagDaLt6vKhZMfw38qlcsSx3e/YVNeI6YmPTeI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FzSHFLX2JbKzq2vBLYc2ssTX5yexAmuhsIc8642T+VQcWxWztk4ABschBOu+6pZXYBE99upq+seaiH4oylxgREYZ2t6miywfsw2jsFX1r8TO5fGoZiE4RI17zV5e7qP1sAqjjyE8SxGAHNBt7kxX9DU+YZLDIYw0Cwv5k7e+OTw=; Message-ID: <974596.78977.qm@web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: QrWoDikVM1muhv80omqPO9HBLeqCcl5teM4bhiy4Y.sKr1_ cCTyJlWY74Sz0fr4f2zB1U7Kdt9fTgpa8M4oaGe1hfSkXScY60ofCYsFTb8c qLjqx_a3_Nk_uN03eC_nhdCQcleOj1SrRt2kpzaPoJirbJaDfBhVNB11bclU 2DtHQkUWyyiBhQMGeIoh5c5GDGAQOFlU6COXcQ12NW9VVaLx2O1SzKda9R6t Kih2VyTgLMCAoun.g2VQRoX3vhRdegbem9z3IIpx2M_dzqGlDlnAz Received: from [220.255.7.151] by web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 10:46:29 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.2.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 10:46:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: FreeBSD, snd_uaudio(4) and external DAC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:46:31 -0000 Hi all Does anybody use the FreeBSD (especially 8.1), snd_uaudio(4) to feed digital music into an external DAC? Does snd_uaudio(4) work well to playback music? I use Amarok and OSS (Open Sound System). Could you also share your configuration info for me to understand how to setup this. Many thanks in advance. Best regards Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 19:08:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FBE3106566C for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:08:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A518FC15 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6VJ8B47089906; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:08:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:08:10 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100731190810.GA67585@thought.org> References: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> <20100729154316.GA14636@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4c523414.+6ssV66YESO4HEsi%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20100731144000.GA72402@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100731144000.GA72402@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. Cc: Subject: Re: ok, i give up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:08:13 -0000 On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 03:40:00PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote: > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:08:20PM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > > Frank Shute wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 07:04:51PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog > > > > than i had YEARS ago. cannot find. > > > > > > > > it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii. things like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # Bill's birthday: > > > > 08 08 echo "Send Bill a birthday card. > > > > > > > > # watch one-time broadcast!! > > > > 08 09 2010 echo: "Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours" > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > deskutils/ical ? > > > > Good program, but probably not what the OP had in mind. > > ical's .calendar file, while ascii, is in a structured > > format which would be a bit of a pain to edit by hand; > > and I don't recall its being set up to send email. > > > > No, it's not able to send email AFAIK. > > If Gary just wants reminders of when to take pills, then I would > recommend him to use at(1) and get it to call a file which calls > xmessage at the correct times of day. E.g. that file contains: > > export DISPLAY=":0.0" > xmessage -geom 100x100+100+100 "Take pills!" > > or if you want to use email use mail(1) and at(1) > > I don't think anybodys mentioned at(1). It's in base and not a port, > xmessage is a port. > This might work for ssomething like a reminder to down my pills. I completely forgot about 'at'. :- ) gary > > Regards, > > -- > > Frank > > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 19:30:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C22106564A for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:30:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771E28FC08 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:30:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfHYP-0006EF-Uo for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:17:07 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:30:01 -0700 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:30:01 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100731193001.GA2235@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100729020446.GA14825@thought.org> <20100729154316.GA14636@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4c523414.+6ssV66YESO4HEsi%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20100731144000.GA72402@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20100731190810.GA67585@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100731190810.GA67585@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: ok, i give up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:30:09 -0000 --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Gary Kline on Saturday, 31 July 2010: > On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 03:40:00PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:08:20PM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > > > > Frank Shute wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 07:04:51PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog > > > > > than i had YEARS ago. cannot find. =20 > > > > >=20 > > > > > it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii. things like > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > # Bill's birthday: > > > > > 08 08 echo "Send Bill a birthday card. > > > > >=20 > > > > > # watch one-time broadcast!! > > > > > 08 09 2010 echo: "Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours" > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > ... > > > > deskutils/ical ? > > >=20 > > > Good program, but probably not what the OP had in mind. > > > ical's .calendar file, while ascii, is in a structured > > > format which would be a bit of a pain to edit by hand; > > > and I don't recall its being set up to send email. > > >=20 > >=20 > > No, it's not able to send email AFAIK. > >=20 > > If Gary just wants reminders of when to take pills, then I would > > recommend him to use at(1) and get it to call a file which calls > > xmessage at the correct times of day. E.g. that file contains: > >=20 > > export DISPLAY=3D":0.0" > > xmessage -geom 100x100+100+100 "Take pills!" > >=20 > > or if you want to use email use mail(1) and at(1) > > =20 > > I don't think anybodys mentioned at(1). It's in base and not a port, > > xmessage is a port. > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > This might work for ssomething like a reminder to down my pills. > I completely forgot about 'at'. =20 >=20 > :- > ) >=20 > gary Using the 'when' scripts I developed, you can generate reminders that will pipe to anything, including mail or xmessage (http://chipstips.com/?tag=3Dr= bremindwhen) I send mine to my xmobar in bright yellow, so it gets my attention but doesn't require me to close a dialog or anything. >=20 >=20 > >=20 > > Regards, > >=20 > > --=20 > >=20 > > Frank > >=20 > > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > >=20 > >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Un= ix > The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php > http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMVHm5AAoJEIpckszW26+R1EkIAJZ9BbXCiufS6545sgvCKnag uckY6LzEB2fXG7ri79yuXcd90Yb1sngtiRT0t2YGGgKAEM14g2F0EgHnRO7DnYdG 2HKSYo3JBBg6R4vQL3KfC5ay1w3KJ6YhoQV3/hFOLALrdOsulOr3888c3fjSHWev nbPsEk7RLOkftv0GIw1Wo0jdX2ahnj3x+buOz5rpwHCJ/IVZ9L0vFj3SHa+MflsC tpQ58Ba/93xgMXxV2uPsv6+CxjWatYb2J0Y7gwpvLOUqjLkhT+rRQ+Nvj1EEVbuD 8hBD4+U5SaY7CeBg/FlVOnVViBFChDyFFlDF9uVR2oHW40T+PaJ+ssKQa9VbsY0= =pU8Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 21:25:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946FA1065673 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:25:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282AE8FC1B for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:25:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.4/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id o6VLPK5c070102 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:25:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 164 Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955038A372 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:25:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix, from userid 2005) id 2BB1A53D2; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:25:24 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:25:24 +0000 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100731232524.GA97254@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 4C5494C0.004 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 4C5494C0.004/134.157.10.1/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/ Subject: Re: Is KDE 4.4.5 on FreeBSD 8.1 this bad? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:25:23 -0000 Unga complained: > behaviour of KDE is surprisingly poor I have installed a fresh FreeBSD-8.1 and a fresh kde4 from the 8.1 cdrom, and i see none of your problems. For me KDE4 works perfectly OK, i am even surprised. Of course making X to run was an exercise in pain, i had to enable HAL and DBUS otherwise keyboard and mouse were not recognized, the data in the xorg.conf were not obeyed, etc. but this was to be expected. The only problem i have now is that i have seen no way to configure the kdm greeter so that the french keyboard is recognized as french, which is inconvenient to type the passwd. But as soon as kde itself starts, everything is OK. An other problem i have seen, diablo-jdk doesn't work for me, i have been obliged to recompile jdk-1.6 starting from an openjdk-1.6 bootstrap. Strangely firefox3 doesn't see the plugin, but seamonkey sees it fine and konqueror also works fine with java. Firefox3 also chokes on Google maps while seamonkey and konqueror work ok. There are obviously javascript problems. Finally i have installed flash10 with the pluginwrapper, and it works wonderfully fine in seamonkey and firefox3, including sound, fullscreen images, etc. But konqueror doesn't work with Flash, for an unknown reason. Hence seamonkey is the only browser which allows me to look at google maps with street view. To summarize, i am extremely happy with the performance of the machine under FreeBSD-8.1, and things which were big problems, like Flash, are now well controlled. Firefox3 is very crappy, only usable for most basic browsing. Seamonkey works perfectly fine for everything i have tried. Konqueror has regressions from KDE 3, but in general KDE4 is nicer than KDE3. Of course icons on the dektop work to launch programs. -- Michel TALON From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 21:38:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD4D1065674 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:38:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CBC8FC0C for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so1420722fxm.13 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:38:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+xd2d5KLhvwEBOf5teb6KHjcE7Ks4iSjmhHGr/KWbfk=; b=tV/00pPUxfb3Ex3JFJ9PNuI7hh/ip3hnGHuzAoEhmIWkhfqs60MFPlizL//NPh59mq gCrQCs77EWLhNmp5NBLMYuW0k6KIeclyNkh3a2u9roYzuDtfKxPzx8/51Uk+odahG1cs BLiRq0vDZkgS558C6NyrXU99VPbulnkWuNKgU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=xjODprQmGLpYOnfPCOEgZmPsMH2jVzacDbFCJ5z0Bu76A6deyHV+cLPFdH6EZ36Ees GF4Jp6PxIS5rKNBSvcn6HPcIx5Sfq3TPdzGOzzK4ruFdQDtM+dZx7oFeNvwSpS9JbRA7 waJXQ4DSNxULWy1WNATFfo/ImRlhnOJ2zdcKI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.185.148 with SMTP id c20mr175072hbh.138.1280612306763; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:38:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.163.13 with HTTP; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:38:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C544C67.5020601@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4c53ef2f.bblzdu2k2iMBdNzW%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4C544C67.5020601@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:38:26 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Adam Vande More , perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing a system to use both gjournal and gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:38:28 -0000 On 31 July 2010 17:16, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 31/07/2010 14:54:40, Adam Vande More wrote: > > While you are correct there isn't much point in mirroring swap and tmp, > > Well, apart from the small point of being resilient to disk failure... > You'ld probably survive /tmp going AWOL with no more than flesh wounds, > a little screaming and some gnashing of teeth; but losing your swap area > would almost certainly take your machine down hard. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > > have a play with the latest pc-bsd disk if you are having issues. It will install a native freebsd, and supports gmirror and gjournal. You can do it via a script type install or GUI. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 22:09:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2FD1065674 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:09:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2508FC1C for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:09:02 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtMGAG07VExUXeb6/2dsb2JhbACTToxacb4nhTkE Received: from outmx05.plus.net ([84.93.230.250]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2010 23:09:01 +0100 Received: from helix.plus.com ([84.92.153.232] helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by outmx05.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1OfKEn-00045E-Dd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:09:01 +0100 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OfKEn-0000q4-4C for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:09:01 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:09:01 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20100731232524.GA97254@lpthe.jussieu.fr> In-Reply-To: <20100731232524.GA97254@lpthe.jussieu.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201007312309.01076.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: Is KDE 4.4.5 on FreeBSD 8.1 this bad? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:09:03 -0000 On Sunday 01 August 2010, Michel Talon wrote: > Firefox3 also > chokes on Google maps while seamonkey and konqueror work ok. There > are obviously javascript problems. Finally i have installed flash10 > with the pluginwrapper, and it works wonderfully fine in seamonkey > and firefox3, including sound, fullscreen images, etc. But konqueror > doesn't work with Flash, for an unknown reason. Hence seamonkey is > the only browser which allows me to look at google maps with street > view. Are you by any chance using the flashblock extension with firefox? This extension has a problem with streetview and you need to add maps.google.com to the flashblock whitelist. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 22:40:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C261065677 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:40:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371BF8FC1B for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.4/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id o6VMeUdV075986 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 2010 00:40:30 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 165 Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752F68A372 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 2010 00:40:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix, from userid 2005) id 3F15953D3; Sun, 1 Aug 2010 00:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 00:40:34 +0000 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100801004034.GA1727@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 4C54A65E.004 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 4C54A65E.004/134.157.10.1/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/ Subject: Re: Is KDE 4.4.5 on FreeBSD 8.1 this bad? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:40:32 -0000 Mike Clarke wrote: > Are you by any chance using the flashblock extension with firefox? This > extension has a problem with streetview and you need to add > maps.google.com to the flashblock whitelist. I don't use any firefox extension, and all programs are freshly installed from FreeBSD-8.1-i386 dvd. I haven't recompiled the kernel, all is standard. I have followed the debugging hits given by google map, checked about:config, etc. without any result, maps don't load and javascript errors appear. Severall months ago, google maps worked for me on firefox, then it broke, and still doesn't work with this recent version. It may be related to locale effects, i don't know, but i don't have problems with konqueror and seamonkey. -- Michel TALON From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 22:59:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7261065674 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:59:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from caleb.stein@me.com) Received: from asmtpout028.mac.com (asmtpout028.mac.com [17.148.16.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C37C18FC0A for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:59:15 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from win7x64.mshome.net ([76.121.184.98]) by asmtp028.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0L6G00GFS2DLL670@asmtp028.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:58:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1007310173 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-07-31_02:2010-07-31, 2010-07-31, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:58:52 -0700 From: Caleb Stein Message-id: User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.60 (Win32) Subject: How to install Etoile? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:59:15 -0000 I want to install Etoile. I tried doing this: cd /usr/ports/x11/etoile sudo make install It exits with an error that etoile-languagekit requires llvm 2.6 or lower, but I have llvm 2.7 installed. Is there any way to go back to 2.6, and if I can, will it break anything else that's important? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 23:38:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89E8106566B for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:38:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dcdowse@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1AB7B8FC08 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:38:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 31 Jul 2010 23:12:13 -0000 Received: from f051074047.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO bytebox.homeunix.net) [78.51.74.47] by mail.gmx.net (mp058) with SMTP; 01 Aug 2010 01:12:13 +0200 X-Authenticated: #30106961 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+eewNp0JWeK/tVoUhAR9iBFRwnC2O8Komy/q9r7D 33pSKkyZ+CQaOM Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 01:12:03 +0200 From: "Daniel C. Dowse" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20100801011203.91da4ee0.dcdowse@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <4C5088B3.7040900@daleco.biz> References: <48c60c0224f4d8499e121f1e15a3b7a5@mediamonks.com> <4C5088B3.7040900@daleco.biz> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.7.1 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:38:57 -0000 Hello What ever you ppl, say does it really depend on some logo? I` am sick an tired of downld that kind of mails from this list. I mean there are more trouble in the world then discuss `bout some logo of and Underground OS. That`s my opinion so please don`t feed the troll thx Daniel -- \\|// (o o) -----------ooO-(_)-Ooo---------------------------- - Unix is a computer virus with a user interface - --------------------------------------------------