From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 01:43:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B84106566B for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 01:43:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E378FC12 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 01:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oubav-0000dp-S8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 03:43:01 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.86.179]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 03:43:01 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 03:43:01 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 21:44:05 -0400 Lines: 76 Message-ID: References: <4C8C0110.20801@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: Upgrading packages - portupgrade confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 01:43:04 -0000 Kaya Saman wrote: > Hi, > > I have 2 servers one production and another test. > > The test machine's packages however, seem to be older then the > production machines one's even though I built the production system a > few months ago. > > I used the: portupgrade command in order to try to upgrade the ports nad > re-install the packages only the same versions seem to be compiling??? > > I ran: portupgrade -ai > > on the base system as the system where these packages are installed into > is a FreeBSD jail. > > The ports in question are these: > > tomcat-6.0.29 Open-source Java web server by Apache, 6.x branch > postgresql-client-8.2.17_1 PostgreSQL database (client) > postgresql-server-8.2.17_1 The most advanced open-source database > available anywhere > > Which on my newer test system show up as such: > > postgresql-client-8.2.13 PostgreSQL database (client) > postgresql-server-8.2.13 The most advanced open-source database > available anywhere > tomcat-6.0.20_1 Open-source Java web server by Apache, 6.x branch > > I don't understand this 100%??? > > I would like the versions to be the same as the production system since > I have a postgres-Tomcat connector which doesn't work on the test setup > as my Tomcat webapp isn't being displayed!! > > Can I do anything about this?? > > I don't even know why it is like this although I must admit that it has > been an exceptionally long day and am really suffering from fatigue now > which might be a contributor but I can't tell..... > > Can anyone give me any advise?? > Have you refreshed the ports tree(s) with csup using the same supfile to ensure the ports trees are up to date ( and therefore identical)? Since you are using portugrade, as I do, this is what I do to see what needs to be done: I cd to /usr/sup which is where I keep my supfiles and the housekeeping. Then using this command sequence will refresh the ports tree, the ports index database, and ensure the package database is clean and synced. Portversion then just tells you with a "<" symbol any that are old and in need of an update. csup -L 2 ports && portsdb -uF && pkgdb -u && portversion where "ports" above is my supfile for ports refresh and looks like this: *default host=cvsup.nl.freebsd.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=. *default delete use-rel-suffix compress ports-all Then a portupgrade -a as required. If all symbols in the right column are "=" everything is up to date and nothing is required. Adjust server location for mirror near you (or one that works best). -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 02:09:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AACB106564A for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 02:09:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222FA8FC0A for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 02:09:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ouc0k-000627-Os for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 04:09:42 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.86.179]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 04:09:42 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 04:09:42 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 22:10:45 -0400 Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <4C8BE43C.8050200@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: gs-8-8.71 under 8.1-Release missing x11 devices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 02:09:47 -0000 Jin Guojun[VFF] wrote: > gs 8-8.71 under FreeBSD 8.1-R seems missing x11 device. > When use ghostview, it complains "/unknown device x11" > > /By tracing around, I found it was caused by gs 8-8.71. As typing "gs > --help", it shows much less > devices supported than gs 8-8.62 under FreeSBD 6.4-R. > > By searching on the Internet, one message says that this could be > resulted by build config. > Is this true? or can gs be dynamically configured to use x11 device? Possibly, if the module was built at compile time when selected from the make config list. However, I suspect it is not needed and just in the way. There may be a .conf file somewhere where you could tell it not to load the X11 modules even though they may have been built. > Hopefully, users do not have to recompile ghostscript. When you run make config in the ghostscript port you should get a list with checkboxes to set build configuration. Unless there is some direct need you might consider clearing the X11 checkbox(es) and recompiling with make, then make deinstall, followed by make reinstall. If you want to completely clear the build config simply do make rmconfig and it will remove previously saved options. Then make should present you with the build config option screen with default options preselected. Doing make config allows to pull up the saved options for adjustment as needed. But the short answer is you probably need to rebuild the port without the X11 modules which are producing your errors and probably not needed anyway. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 04:13:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2AC106564A for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 04:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF488FC13 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 04:13:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o8C4DG55059159 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 21:13:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o8C4DGai059158 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 21:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA19359; Sat, 11 Sep 10 21:09:00 PDT Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 21:09:04 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4c8c5260.+COCCpHgloxRSY2/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4c83190a.SG+LIhPWaGtmaaeL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4C835474.7060707@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4c8487cc.Rh42YL91jTIv09e0%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4c84ce46.sHyLaI+H+UzM+J/y%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <4c84ce46.sHyLaI+H+UzM+J/y%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: sysinstall vs gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 04:13:16 -0000 How do I get sysinstall to recognize a gmirror? I've created the mirror -- which currently has only one provider -- using Fixit#, followed by Fixit# ln -s /dist/boot/kernel /boot Fixit# gmirror load after which /dev/mirror/gm0{,a,b} exist. However, even after rescanning the disks, sysinstall doesn't include gm0 in its drive list. I also tried: Fixit# ( cd /dev && ln -s mirror/* . && ll gm* ) lrwxr-xr-x 1 root 0 10 Sep 6 10:48 gm0@ -> mirror/gm0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root 0 10 Sep 6 10:48 gm0a@ -> mirror/gm0a lrwxr-xr-x 1 root 0 10 Sep 6 10:48 gm0b@ -> mirror/gm0b in case sysinstall looks only in /dev itself and not in any subdirectories, and that didn't help. I even tried: Fixit# ( cd /dev && ln -s mirror/gm0 ar0 \ && for p in a b d e ; \ do ln -s mirror/gm0$p ar0$p ; done && ll ar* ) lrwxr-xr-x 1 root 0 10 Sep 6 10:48 ar0@ -> mirror/gm0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root 0 10 Sep 6 10:48 ar0a@ -> mirror/gm0a lrwxr-xr-x 1 root 0 10 Sep 6 10:48 ar0b@ -> mirror/gm0b lrwxr-xr-x 1 root 0 10 Sep 6 10:48 ar0d@ -> mirror/gm0d lrwxr-xr-x 1 root 0 10 Sep 6 10:48 ar0e@ -> mirror/gm0e in case sysinstall looks only for names of known disk drivers, and that didn't help either. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 06:41:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B99106566B for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 06:41:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out9.libero.it (cp-out9.libero.it [212.52.84.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF618FC08 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 06:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from soth.ventu (151.51.63.247) by cp-out9.libero.it (8.5.107) id 4C87B32E00807D24 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:41:29 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8C6fKw0010089 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:41:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4C8C7613.6080808@netfence.it> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:41:23 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; it-IT; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100911 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.1.2.13 Subject: Linux DRI (and Google Earth) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 06:41:31 -0000 Hello. What's the status of 3d hardware acceleration in Linux emulation? I'm running 8.1R/i386 and I was finally able to get DRI working (with native software) on my Radeon HD 4200. So I installe Google Earth, but it's warning that it will use software rendering and is, of course, slow. %pkg_info|grep linux linux-f10-dri-7.2_1 Mesa libGL runtime libraries and DRI drivers (Linux Fedora linux-f10-expat-2.0.1 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library (Linux linux-f10-fontconfig-2.6.0 An XML-based font configuration API for X Windows (Linux Fe linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 10) linux_base-f10-10_2 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode for i386/amd64 (L I had linux-dri-7.4_1 installed by default, but tried switching to linux-f10-dri-7.2_1; nothing changed. bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 07:06:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD07D106564A for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 07:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C93B8FC0C for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 07:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz20 with SMTP id 20so311645bwz.13 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 00:06:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KLxKul96SdhB0Rv8nx96AmjL1sWay2EhEwxVQ/Z7GZg=; b=KIRifjxTDqEPwVqFhnD5kYVFjtQYOx/HMBGAr2ptNznzPllT6lgHlg6dvGUKw2d3tb Tyjm8iEahbasJ488R4W4CDvK3jyadkLw2+1xGn97fsWBLCjNzfpyfgVpju1/d3Kyp6kP UiCnT+mclQyvAC2zuPJuvbE7qpwlfo6dNby5M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n2K3ZzMPtufXGcCe77wElxdWoiGVMy29vvn1LhnihtA0bzZYjhoI4WJwdDmxMITAG1 tTQMeUFgKMBG0gvJ3pcxno5/7bL3lTwGwqD03pLSOmSTDaQtMpIqTXmhc5XD5YY2qrLA J+jSedWR8T2Y9UWfQ+tC6ROCa3MkPDEIlgrYc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.178.82 with SMTP id bl18mr2014295bkb.118.1284275170939; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 00:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.80.167 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 00:06:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C8C7613.6080808@netfence.it> References: <4C8C7613.6080808@netfence.it> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 09:06:10 +0200 Message-ID: From: David DEMELIER To: Andrea Venturoli Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux DRI (and Google Earth) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 07:06:12 -0000 2010/9/12 Andrea Venturoli : > Hello. > > What's the status of 3d hardware acceleration in Linux emulation? > I'm running 8.1R/i386 and I was finally able to get DRI working (with nat= ive > software) on my Radeon HD 4200. > So I installe Google Earth, but it's warning that it will use software > rendering and is, of course, slow. > > %pkg_info|grep linux > linux-f10-dri-7.2_1 Mesa libGL runtime libraries and DRI drivers (Linux > Fedora > linux-f10-expat-2.0.1 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library > (Linux > linux-f10-fontconfig-2.6.0 An XML-based font configuration API for X Wind= ows > (Linux Fe > linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 10) > linux_base-f10-10_2 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode for i386/am= d64 > (L > > I had linux-dri-7.4_1 installed by default, but tried switching to > linux-f10-dri-7.2_1; nothing changed. > > =C2=A0bye & Thanks > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0av. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > The version 7.4 of DRI hasn't the support of hardware acceleration of radeon hd cards. We need to update the linux mesa port to 7.6 to get it. Cheers, --=20 Demelier David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 07:50:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797391065673 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 07:50:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out8.libero.it (cp-out8.libero.it [212.52.84.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336598FC13 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 07:50:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from soth.ventu (151.51.63.247) by cp-out8.libero.it (8.5.107) id 4C88FBFC00588940 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 09:50:44 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8C7oaaG024242 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 09:50:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4C8C8650.4080505@netfence.it> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 09:50:40 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; it-IT; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100911 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.1.2.13 Subject: AMD SMBus X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 07:50:46 -0000 Any chance of enabling this? (Google was unfriendly :-) none0@pci0:0:20:0: class=0x0c0500 card=0x37001565 chip=0x43851002 rev=0x3c hdr=0x00 vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc. / Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.' device = 'ATI SMBus (ATI RD600/RS600)' class = serial bus subclass = SMBus bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 11:34:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D4A106566B for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61F58FC1A for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:34:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyx24 with SMTP id 24so2774741eyx.13 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 04:34:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wuz0RcBJ2c1veq4d+wORpP4LRPAykiwhT6OC2y8dGg4=; b=XodVjOPaC1n5/pC7j9WcqsxPyV41MmdsexrYM7z39sthjcjD0Q9cfnW8kRlFVyHJmy LWWjFyFDQtTLlQVqC+ewVZImMjztx9rGnWIR5kYTn8i1dBf+vBBTVUJs1c7vpKOwwyLO gJ5yJMriSid0y+GZc6eneLa2cA4U0vrrHpWRk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=imfvOmDlIXHcY3f6+zsSGZyJTiP7ePEOUw99cRztBE2hWWkS6g0hT+ru/b92gQH7Ic CBIM7EjrpfjdBCR988i9wurOubpXfASbELO4bYH9DMDIfWfW7qfVR4Kphak2+reAfxmj nWUAVzxX3+ju6/lj2pBNPa903ShW7UJtZaM/Q= Received: by 10.213.27.68 with SMTP id h4mr901813ebc.98.1284291294744; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 04:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.0.4] ([212.156.209.87]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z55sm7309776eeh.3.2010.09.12.04.34.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 12 Sep 2010 04:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C8CBADC.3070904@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 14:34:52 +0300 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Powell References: <4C8C0110.20801@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading packages - portupgrade confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:34:56 -0000 [...] > Have you refreshed the ports tree(s) with csup using the same supfile to > ensure the ports trees are up to date ( and therefore identical)? Since you > are using portugrade, as I do, this is what I do to see what needs to be > done: > > I cd to /usr/sup which is where I keep my supfiles and the housekeeping. > Then using this command sequence will refresh the ports tree, the ports > index database, and ensure the package database is clean and synced. > Portversion then just tells you with a "<" symbol any that are old and in > need of an update. > > csup -L 2 ports&& portsdb -uF&& pkgdb -u&& portversion > > where "ports" above is my supfile for ports refresh and looks like this: > > *default host=cvsup.nl.freebsd.org > *default base=/usr > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs tag=. > *default delete use-rel-suffix compress > ports-all > > Then a portupgrade -a as required. If all symbols in the right column are > "=" everything is up to date and nothing is required. Adjust server location > for mirror near you (or one that works best). > > -Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Thanks alot Mike for the response!! I didn't actually refresh the ports tree so I'm gona have to do that. The thing I don't quite understand though is that if the ports tree gets refreshed, do the packages get upgraded or will I need to rebuild them?? I slightly recall the csup commnad, however I've never actually performed an inplace upgrade of a package in BSD. Only done this kind of thing in Linux - Debian/Ubuntu, CentOS and Solaris - OpenSolaris, Belenix where they have package managers. What's the process for upgrading a package? make reinstall clean?? Many Thanks Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 12:50:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C79106564A for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:50:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0388FC12 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:50:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4so2068861gyg.13 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 05:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.157.16 with SMTP id f16mr1459474ybe.126.1284295811899; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 05:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-147-230.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.147.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w3sm1076248ybi.7.2010.09.12.05.50.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 12 Sep 2010 05:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 89563E54862 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:50:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:50:08 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20100912085008.558d3d84@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4C8CBADC.3070904@gmail.com> References: <4C8C0110.20801@gmail.com> <4C8CBADC.3070904@gmail.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Upgrading packages - portupgrade confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:50:13 -0000 On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 14:34:52 +0300 Kaya Saman articulated: > [...] > > Have you refreshed the ports tree(s) with csup using the same > > supfile to ensure the ports trees are up to date ( and therefore > > identical)? Since you are using portugrade, as I do, this is what I > > do to see what needs to be done: > > > > I cd to /usr/sup which is where I keep my supfiles and the > > housekeeping. Then using this command sequence will refresh the > > ports tree, the ports index database, and ensure the package > > database is clean and synced. Portversion then just tells you with > > a "<" symbol any that are old and in need of an update. > > > > csup -L 2 ports&& portsdb -uF&& pkgdb -u&& portversion > > > > where "ports" above is my supfile for ports refresh and looks like > > this: > > > > *default host=cvsup.nl.freebsd.org > > *default base=/usr > > *default prefix=/usr > > *default release=cvs tag=. > > *default delete use-rel-suffix compress > > ports-all > > > > Then a portupgrade -a as required. If all symbols in the right > > column are "=" everything is up to date and nothing is required. > > Adjust server location for mirror near you (or one that works best). > > > > -Mike > > Thanks alot Mike for the response!! > > I didn't actually refresh the ports tree so I'm gona have to do that. > > The thing I don't quite understand though is that if the ports tree > gets refreshed, do the packages get upgraded or will I need to > rebuild them?? You have to rebuild them. > I slightly recall the csup commnad, however I've never actually > performed an inplace upgrade of a package in BSD. Only done this kind > of thing in Linux - Debian/Ubuntu, CentOS and Solaris - OpenSolaris, > Belenix where they have package managers. > > What's the process for upgrading a package? make reinstall clean?? If using a port maintenance application such as portupgrade or portmanager, you could simply do the following: "portupgrade -a" or "portmanager -u" depending on what application you are using. Switching between multiple port maintenance applications is not the worse thing you could do; however, I would not recommend it as an everyday occurrence. If doing it manually, you could just do: make && make deinstall && make reinstall && make distclean There are other variations of course. I would recommend that you run: "make config" in the port's home directory prior to building it for the first time. there might be some useful features that you want to turn on or off. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Minicomputer: A computer that can be afforded on the budget of a middle-level manager. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 12:51:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5E61065670 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:51:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4FD8FC0A for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:51:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oum1z-00080m-3N for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 14:51:39 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.86.179]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 14:51:39 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 14:51:39 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:52:44 -0400 Lines: 79 Message-ID: References: <4C8C0110.20801@gmail.com> <4C8CBADC.3070904@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: Upgrading packages - portupgrade confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:51:43 -0000 Kaya Saman wrote: > [...] >> csup -L 2 ports && portsdb -uF && pkgdb -u && portversion To elaborate a little. csup -L 2 ports is what refreshes the ports tree. Portupgrade is a third party app you can install to assist in automating the updating process. Once you've installed portupgrade there are man pages for portsdb, pkgdb, and portversion to see what the switches described above do. The commands above are just strung together to prepare a system for updating. portupgrade -a is actually what does the actual updating. There are other tools as well, I'm just not as familiar with them. I think the other one is called portmaster. It may even be better, I don't know as I tend to stick with what I know as long as it keeps doing the job. [snip] > > I didn't actually refresh the ports tree so I'm gona have to do that. > > The thing I don't quite understand though is that if the ports tree gets > refreshed, do the packages get upgraded or will I need to rebuild them?? I don't know if I can properly explain well enough, but I'll take a stab at it anyways. But I believe the first answer here would be no. Refreshing the ports tree does not install or update any installed software. I kind of keyed in on your mentioning of portupgrade. Portupgrade is a tool for automating the upgrading of installed software. While I believe it, and possibly portmaster can operate on pre-built packages I myself stopped using packages a long time ago. I compile everything. A pre-built package is built from the same ports system that you would use if you were compiling locally yourself. It's just someone else has done it for you. The thing to know is that in either situation, e.g. pre-built package or compile it yourself the ports tree is where the versioning and dependency tracking happens. There is more information in the Handbook, and probably presented better there than I can. It is spread out in several locations however. It may not be immediately apparent when reading the "How to install software" section that you also need to read the other sections further down that explain csup, portmaster, etc. The main thing we will keep reiterating though is the first step for updating installed apps is always refresh the ports tree first. > I slightly recall the csup commnad, however I've never actually > performed an inplace upgrade of a package in BSD. Only done this kind of > thing in Linux - Debian/Ubuntu, CentOS and Solaris - OpenSolaris, > Belenix where they have package managers. > > What's the process for upgrading a package? make reinstall clean?? > Since I don't use packages my vantage point is centered around compiling locally myself. However, most of what I describe applies to both situations. Typically the first thing to do is update/refresh the ports tree. Should you determine something needs to be updated the manual approach would be to change to the directory of the app in ports system and do make, followed by make deinstall, and then make reinstall. The deinstall/reinstall leaves your configurations for installed apps in place. Portupgrade is a tool that automates this. After refreshing the ports tree the portupgrade -a command will pretty much do what was described in the previous paragraph automagically. It isn't perfect and sometimes it hiccups. I've noticed that doing this more often so that only a few out of date apps need upgrading at any one time is smoother. It's when you have a hundred things that are really old and out of date because updating has been infrequent is when you are most likely to experience trouble. Hope this helps. I'm not the best at explaining things, but the Handbook is a most excellent resource to be studied extensively. It is written much better than anything I can manage. And while much of it may seem cryptic at first glance, most of what you need to know is in there. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 13:16:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D7F106564A for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 13:16:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509458FC0C for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 13:16:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8CDGRem018412 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 12 Sep 2010 14:16:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C8CD2A4.3020203@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 14:16:20 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: perryh@pluto.rain.com References: <4c83190a.SG+LIhPWaGtmaaeL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4C835474.7060707@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4c8487cc.Rh42YL91jTIv09e0%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4c84ce46.sHyLaI+H+UzM+J/y%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4c8c5260.+COCCpHgloxRSY2/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <4c8c5260.+COCCpHgloxRSY2/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigCBC12237AA2E2B66528873FD" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinstall vs gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 13:16:34 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigCBC12237AA2E2B66528873FD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/09/2010 05:09:04, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > How do I get sysinstall to recognize a gmirror? >=20 > I've created the mirror -- which currently has only one provider -- > using Fixit#, followed by >=20 > Fixit# ln -s /dist/boot/kernel /boot > Fixit# gmirror load >=20 > after which /dev/mirror/gm0{,a,b} exist. However, even after > rescanning the disks, sysinstall doesn't include gm0 in its > drive list. I also tried: >=20 > Fixit# ( cd /dev && ln -s mirror/* . && ll gm* ) > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root 0 10 Sep 6 10:48 gm0@ -> mirror/gm0 > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root 0 10 Sep 6 10:48 gm0a@ -> mirror/gm0a > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root 0 10 Sep 6 10:48 gm0b@ -> mirror/gm0b >=20 > in case sysinstall looks only in /dev itself and not in any > subdirectories, and that didn't help. I even tried: >=20 > Fixit# ( cd /dev && ln -s mirror/gm0 ar0 \ > && for p in a b d e ; \=20 > do ln -s mirror/gm0$p ar0$p ; done && ll ar* ) > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root 0 10 Sep 6 10:48 ar0@ -> mirror/gm0 > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root 0 10 Sep 6 10:48 ar0a@ -> mirror/gm0a > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root 0 10 Sep 6 10:48 ar0b@ -> mirror/gm0b > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root 0 10 Sep 6 10:48 ar0d@ -> mirror/gm0d > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root 0 10 Sep 6 10:48 ar0e@ -> mirror/gm0e >=20 > in case sysinstall looks only for names of known disk drivers, > and that didn't help either. I don't think sysinstall will do what you want. However, what is your ultimate goal? To install a system with a gmirror root drive? You can do that by installing direct to one of your drives (ie ad0s1* or da0s1*) in the usual way and then converting the system into a gmirror. The Onlamp article by Dru Lavigne is the best referrence here: http://onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/11/10/FreeBSD_Basics.html Or else you can boot into the Fixit system, set up mirroring etc. and then work through the rest of the installation process by hand. The install sets are just split up tarballs and it's pretty easy to extract a copy of a system from them. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigCBC12237AA2E2B66528873FD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyM0qsACgkQ8Mjk52CukIx29ACgkR2t4ChfhnT4zcXesne2bHMH Z4wAn1Ex3CflbD1j0Khw8tsTrP1VH4/i =PhD8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigCBC12237AA2E2B66528873FD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 13:50:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08469106566B for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 13:50:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806828FC1D for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 13:50:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyx24 with SMTP id 24so2794871eyx.13 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 06:50:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; bh=/WH+VowmlBmvYS45BuBvYgVI9pZVvjG1h/HJUwrQtl4=; b=AsRnNqChMaKRsa39c2dD/6IeBYa91Q/ALJF31X6en2ZNpQpUEez5pg9Hp0CKfRcO99 9kwhkH3ezrmCjJ+ycAih5+Et8bcANukvWZjIYoOXt9p1IKR5T/AgyYUwLEndpElJI8Gm Srd49hTAjR91+pz8JiSZzezWacKKtWOENthqg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; b=W8b0DUVZAguS+muQeBDYbbG+5K6va7pbvnCrEoT3VI1iyAOlHw4o0d8S8AjePkgm0s z/VDhZcoXKbZwfGtLGYtBirZDEB+GEN4r8MEsqs/GKBf2qnSwEIE7H+LqHH9y2xcMJK7 Kx/tdjOSjU0CMhWGs0AnwgDSw7sDiiMn2jtaw= Received: by 10.14.47.79 with SMTP id s55mr1883422eeb.22.1284299439507; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 06:50:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.0.4] ([212.156.209.87]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a48sm7472381eei.7.2010.09.12.06.50.38 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 12 Sep 2010 06:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C8CDAAD.2070606@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:50:37 +0300 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C8C0110.20801@gmail.com> <4C8CBADC.3070904@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Upgrading packages - portupgrade confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 13:50:41 -0000 Hi Jerry and Michael, thanks for all the advise and information!! I think I was confusing terminologies a little.... I was trying to imply that I have been building from ports all this time and *not* using pkg_add to obtain pre-built packages. I think mainly it's just that I've been using package managers too much with Linux and OpenSolaris distros that it got burned into my brain..... not to mention that yesterday was a 14 hour shift without break which didn't help. The thing I don't quite understand though is that if the ports tree > gets refreshed, do the packages get upgraded or will I need to > rebuild them?? You have to rebuild them. Does this apply to ports too?? "portupgrade -a" or "portmanager -u" depending on what application you are using. Switching between multiple port maintenance applications is not the worse thing you could do; however, I would not recommend it as an everyday occurrence. Ok so "portupgrade -a" upgrades all ports according to the manual. On 09/12/2010 03:52 PM, Michael Powell wrote: > [...] > To elaborate a little. csup -L 2 ports is what refreshes the ports tree. > Portupgrade is a third party app you can install to assist in automating the > updating process. Once you've installed portupgrade there are man pages for > portsdb, pkgdb, and portversion to see what the switches described above do. > The commands above are just strung together to prepare a system for > updating. portupgrade -a is actually what does the actual updating. > > There are other tools as well, I'm just not as familiar with them. I think > the other one is called portmaster. It may even be better, I don't know as I > tend to stick with what I know as long as it keeps doing the job. > > [ Ok, so if I understand correctly now is that the csup command refreshes the ports tree while portupgrade upgrades the actual port itself.... eg: cd /usr/ports/*/nano make install clean although not the case but say if this was to build version 1.8 of the Nano text editor, running: csup -L 2 portupgrade nano would upgrade the installed version to 1.9?? Of course the current version of Nano is totally different I am just trying to understand here!! > [...] > I don't know if I can properly explain well enough, but I'll take a stab at > it anyways. But I believe the first answer here would be no. Refreshing the > ports tree does not install or update any installed software. > > I kind of keyed in on your mentioning of portupgrade. Portupgrade is a tool > for automating the upgrading of installed software. While I believe it, and > possibly portmaster can operate on pre-built packages I myself stopped using > packages a long time ago. I compile everything. > > Ok I think this practically explains what I've just been trying to say above. > > [...] > Hope this helps. I'm not the best at explaining things, but the Handbook is > a most excellent resource to be studied extensively. It is written much > better than anything I can manage. And while much of it may seem cryptic at > first glance, most of what you need to know is in there. > > Yep I think this helps a lot!!! :-) > -Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Many thanks and best regards, Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 14:03:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15BD106564A for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 14:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6008FC08 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 14:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8CE3Y2G066216; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:03:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o8CE3YvN066213; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:03:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:03:34 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Kaya Saman In-Reply-To: <4C8CBADC.3070904@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <4C8C0110.20801@gmail.com> <4C8CBADC.3070904@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:03:34 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading packages - portupgrade confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 14:03:35 -0000 On Sun, 12 Sep 2010, Kaya Saman wrote: > The thing I don't quite understand though is that if the ports tree gets > refreshed, do the packages get upgraded or will I need to rebuild them?? The ports tree is just build instructions, so updating it doesn't update any installed applications. It does let you use a program to see which installed applications need to be updated, like pkg_version or portversion. Here's a document I've been working on lately about upgrading ports. I'm not sure it's really there yet, but it covers the basics: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/portupgrade.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 14:34:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1511065706 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 14:34:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3878FC0C for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 14:34:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oundx-0006Vl-5d for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:34:57 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.86.179]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:34:57 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:34:57 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:36:06 -0400 Lines: 86 Message-ID: References: <4C8C0110.20801@gmail.com> <4C8CBADC.3070904@gmail.com> <4C8CDAAD.2070606@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: Upgrading packages - portupgrade confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 14:34:59 -0000 Kaya Saman wrote: [snip] > The thing I don't quite understand though is that if the ports tree >> gets refreshed, do the packages get upgraded or will I need to >> rebuild them?? > > You have to rebuild them. > > Does this apply to ports too?? Yes. A package is just a port that someone has compiled into a pre-built binary package for use with pkg_add. These binary packages are placed on ftp servers where pkg_add may download from and install. A port is just you doing the compiling locally yourself using the ports system. The installed result is the same, except for one thing. When a package is built some build options may have been selected as defaults while others were excluded. When you build the port locally you have complete control over all options. > "portupgrade -a" or "portmanager -u" depending on what application you > are using. Switching between multiple port maintenance applications is > not the worse thing you could do; however, I would not recommend it as > an everyday occurrence. > > > Ok so "portupgrade -a" upgrades all ports according to the manual. > [snip] > Ok, so if I understand correctly now is that the csup command refreshes > the ports tree while portupgrade upgrades the actual port itself.... Update the ports tree first! csup -L 2 ports <- this file "ports" is a supfile. An example of a supfile was included in a previous mail. More detailed info in the Handbook. > eg: > > cd /usr/ports/*/nano > make install clean cd /usr/ports/editors/nano/ make install clean This installs nano when it was not installed before. The manual method to update would be: (with a freshly updated ports tree) cd /usr/ports/editors/nano/ make && make deinstall && make reinstall > although not the case but say if this was to build version 1.8 of the > Nano text editor, running: > > portupgrade nano > > would upgrade the installed version to 1.9?? Yes - provided you had installed portupgrade and are using an up to date ports tree. If your ports tree is as old as the old version of nano then as far as FreeBSD is concerned it does not know of any new version. Refreshing your ports tree is where that information comes from. The utility of automation with portupgrade really comes into play when you are trying to update more than one port. One port at a time can be done manually as in the above example, but that quickly becomes tiresome when there are many. Sometimes a port may provide a shared library which many other ports depend upon. Updating that library may cause dependent apps to break. In such a situation portupgrade can recurse and rebuild all apps depending on that library so they will be linked against the new. Another tip: Whenever there are situations which can get sticky most of the time notes are placed into a file containing instructions on how to deal with the problem. Get into the habit of always reading the UPDATING file located in /usr/ports so you will know about these *before* updating. [snip] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 15:17:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC54106566C for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 15:17:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBA68FC12 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 15:17:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o8CFHbxu099669; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 01:17:38 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 01:17:37 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: "O. Hartmann" In-Reply-To: <20100912120025.CC19510656D4@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20100912235539.N73353@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20100912120025.CC19510656D4@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-648520812-1284304657=:73353" Cc: Andrew Brampton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiling software with different compiler than cc or clang results in unusable output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 15:17:41 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-648520812-1284304657=:73353 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 327, Issue 11, Message: 4 On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 "O. Hartmann" wrote: > On 09/11/10 11:43, Andrew Brampton wrote: > > On 11 September 2010 10:28, O. Hartmann > > wrote: > >> > >> you see me a kind of desperate. I wrote my own a small piece of  software in > >> C, calculating the orbit and position of astronomical objects, astroids, in > >> a heliocentric coordinate system from Keplerian orbital elements. So far. Don't expect too much accuracy from Keplerian orbits anywhere vaguely near Jupiter or Saturn - but yes they're a great place to start from. > >> The software calculates the set of points of an ellipse based upon > >> ephemeridal datas taken from the Minor Planet Cataloge. Again, so far, > >> everything all right. The set of points of an orbit is all right and > >> correct. But when it comes to positions at a specific time, then I loose > >> hair! The program mentioned below can generate accurate results for as often as every few hours; handy at least for comparing your results over time. > >> Compiling this piece of software with FreeBSD's gcc (V4.2) and clang (clang > >> devel) on my private and lab's FreeBSD boxes (both most recent FreeBSD > >> 8.1/amd64), this program does well, the calculated orbital positions are > >> very close to professional applications or observational checks. But when > >> compiling the sources with gcc44 or gcc45 (same source, same CFLAG setting, > >> mostly no CFLAGS set), then there is a great discrepancy. Sometimes when > >> plotting positions, the results plotted seconds before differs from the most > >> recent. The ellipses are allways correct, but the position of a single point > >> at a specific time isn't correct. Know the feeling; it took Kepler 20 years to get ellipses down pat :) > >> I use the GNU autotools to build the package. > >> > >> I suspekt miscompilations in memory alloction or in some time- or > >> mathematical functions like sin, cos. > >> > >> before I digg deeper I'd like to ask the community for some hints how to > >> hunt down such a problem. > >> > >> regards, > >> Oliver > > > > Sounds a cool project. I suspect you are miss-using a feature of C or > > are using uninitialised memory, and with gcc44/45's more aggressive > > optimisations it is getting it wrong. I have three suggestions > > > > 1) Use valgrind to check if it finds anything wrong when running your > > program. Check both the good and the bad builds. > > > > 2) If your program is made up of multiple C files, then try compiling > > all of the C files with gcc42, but just one at a time with gcc44. This > > way will help you track down exactly which C file has "the bug". > > > > 3) Finally do some printf debugging to find the first line of code > > that is generating the wrong value. > > > > I hope these suggestions help. > > Andrew > > Hello Andrew. > > Thanks for your comments, they are worth trying out. I will do so ... > > item 2) oh, yes, a very good idea ... > > item 3) I did already, the whole software is built up by those printf's. > > The problem boiled down to be some problem in the UNIX time routines. I > use localtime(3), time(3) and a strftime(3) and strptime(3). > > I use a 'wikipedia'-algorithm converting the actual time string into an > 'epoch' used in astronomical calculations. Compiling this routine with > gcc42 and clang everything is all right, compiling it with gcc44 or > gcc45 it returns 10 times higher values. I use very 'primitive' cutoffs > for casting a double value into an int - I need the integrale value, not > the remainings after the decimal point. I will check this again and look > forward for a cleaner solution. But isn't this a 'bug'? > > I'll try the BETA of the new FreeBSD PathScale compiler if I get some. > > Well, I'll report ... Please do. Well I can't help at all about the compilers, but I suggest having a close look over Steve Moshier's 'Numerical Integration of Sun, Moon and Planets' at http://www.moshier.net/ssystem.html I compiled the contents of http://www.moshier.net/de118i-2.zip as-is on a FreeBSD 5.5 system four years ago and it just ran, reproducing closely my late '90s results from the then DOS version SSYSTEM.EXE; there are #defines for using doubles or long doubles, major asteroids on not, even including 'your' asteroid's elements, and test results for comparison. You could check how your different compilers treat those sources? Apart from that it's very readable code and there's just about every maths and trig function imaginable, including quadrant-correct arctans and such. And also, of course, Julian Ephemeris Date handling routines .. not to mention close-to-JPL positions and velocities over many centuries :) Good luck. I'm hoping to revive and extend from my '90s Pascal astro programs in FPC soon to chew on 100s of years of ssystem ephemerides. HTH, Ian --0-648520812-1284304657=:73353-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 15:46:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE05A106566B for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 15:46:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793508FC15 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 15:46:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy4 with SMTP id 4so2806263ewy.13 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:46:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0mB2vy9NXObRxFZSMcZ4sRtLHO5+i/cVuVXphUXKxoc=; b=VNU5q/zGEQUnWR+4cycL6RYLfllaZuOmwab3g+awt/o4spR9Efxahe5qeBt1mdCUE6 HKdScSpkHvophT5RK+a0MNoeY4r0gjrRRVyu27CYpDCFHsyZc1FSQaW9hPIE1Z6jHFUk R+Uj9QFZPFEPSNU81btu3wT9CC9jrflWqVAcE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=O31KBHiLlFdd35da1oBkK/F6AIlARJ7L4KJapqqj8h57YgQ3PmvNGMdNvbFCFFvNYk UmMt8vdzmReFuZDYwY6wwRL0MEq0gmuvammYsvgpBTQj8ayVVSqKpQhVX6LDTncUZd0l cBN82gl+41PerOQoWAKT25LNldIVdcyfil6JA= Received: by 10.14.45.66 with SMTP id o42mr1986248eeb.10.1284306414485; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.0.4] ([212.156.209.87]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v8sm7620303eeh.8.2010.09.12.08.46.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C8CF5EC.80206@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 18:46:52 +0300 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C8C0110.20801@gmail.com> <4C8CBADC.3070904@gmail.com> <4C8CDAAD.2070606@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Upgrading packages - portupgrade confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 15:46:58 -0000 Thanks Warren and Michael! :-) On Sun, 12 Sep 2010, Kaya Saman wrote: > The thing I don't quite understand though is that if the ports tree > gets refreshed, do the packages get upgraded or will I need to rebuild > them?? The ports tree is just build instructions, so updating it doesn't update any installed applications. It does let you use a program to see which installed applications need to be updated, like pkg_version or portversion. Here's a document I've been working on lately about upgrading ports. I'm not sure it's really there yet, but it covers the basics: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/portupgrade.html Yep I kinda figured that before even posting and also I knew the difference between packages built by pkg_add and compiling fresh from ports since I've done a few BSD builds now but the really iffy thing was a: communication - which let me down not explaining myself properly and b: confusion of how to update On 09/12/2010 05:36 PM, Michael Powell wrote: > [...] > Yes. A package is just a port that someone has compiled into a pre-built > binary package for use with pkg_add. These binary packages are placed on ftp > servers where pkg_add may download from and install. > > A port is just you doing the compiling locally yourself using the ports > system. The installed result is the same, except for one thing. When a > package is built some build options may have been selected as defaults while > others were excluded. When you build the port locally you have complete > control over all options. > > Ditto :-) >> "portupgrade -a" or "portmanager -u" depending on what application you >> are using. Switching between multiple port maintenance applications is >> not the worse thing you could do; however, I would not recommend it as >> an everyday occurrence. >> >> >> Ok so "portupgrade -a" upgrades all ports according to the manual. >> >> > [snip] > > >> Ok, so if I understand correctly now is that the csup command refreshes >> the ports tree while portupgrade upgrades the actual port itself.... >> > Update the ports tree first! csup -L 2 ports<- this file "ports" is a > supfile. An example of a supfile was included in a previous mail. More > detailed info in the Handbook. > This clarifies, I can't believe what's wrong with me today as I seem to not be thinking :-( I picked this up the first time round on a really good production build that I made and now I lost all that knowledge.... oh well working with MS can do that to you I guess?? > > > [...] > Another tip: Whenever there are situations which can get sticky most of the > time notes are placed into a file containing instructions on how to deal > with the problem. Get into the habit of always reading the UPDATING file > located in /usr/ports so you will know about these *before* updating. > > [snip] > > This is really great advise as I'm kinda in the process of developing documentation myself similar to Warren: http://wiki.optiplex-networks.com/xwiki/bin/view/FreeBSD/ Luckily I build all my systems in jails so is easily managed and doesn't blow up the whole system, however I do share the ports tree throughout all jails and the base install meaning that things get simplified although it can have its own problems such as version inconsistencies etc... {{PS. this is also due to the fact that I only one available production system and can't afford to get more although soon I hope to one day}} Thanks so much guys and sorry for being so noobish these last 2 days, just sorry you all had to put up with it!! :-) Anyway best regards to all and hopefully mail along side you guys helping out others some sunny day in the future :-D Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 16:52:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4216106564A for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:52:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from smtprelay-b11.telenor.se (smtprelay-b11.telenor.se [62.127.194.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0438FC1B for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:52:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb1.telenor.se (ipb1.telenor.se [195.54.127.164]) by smtprelay-b11.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2768E9316 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 18:52:38 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.226.59.55] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmwzAJqhjExV4js3PGdsb2JhbACDGZ4uDAEBAQE1La1JkGmBIoFugTx0BIk/g2U X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,355,1280700000"; d="scan'208";a="129620299" Received: from c-373be255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.59.55]) by ipb1.telenor.se with ESMTP; 12 Sep 2010 18:52:38 +0200 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8CGqaTs086684 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 18:52:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <4C8D0554.3000507@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 18:52:36 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TW9yZ2FuIFdlc3N0csO2bQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100910 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <4C72BCFC.1030106@pp.dyndns.biz> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: 8.1 memstick installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:52:40 -0000 > 2010/8/23 Morgan Wesström: >> On 2010-08-23 19:34, Friedemann Becker wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I have some questions about an installation on a memorystick. >>> >>> I have (a few weeks still) a very poor internet connection at home >>> that's unusable for anything beyond email. I tried some hacking on >>> musescore (yes I know that it can't work, but that's not my problem >>> for now). Since I don't want to carry missing ports/packages/other >>> stuff around on a stick everytime I miss something - which takes one >>> day each - i would like to have a working system (not installation >>> image) on usb-stick. >>> Can i use fdimage with the memorystick installation image on windows, >>> or any hacked versions of it? >>> And how do turn this stick in a running system? >>> Or is there any kind of live-stick-images out there, and if it is, how >>> to move these on the stick (since windows is missing dd and nero >>> doesn't like burning sticks :-) ) >>> >>> Thanks in advance >>> >> >> Check my old message on how to do this in FreeBSD 7.2. The same >> instructions should work for 8.1 too, just change the version references. >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-July/201928.html >> /Morgan >> On 2010-08-26 13:52, Friedemann Becker wrote: > Thanks a lot, > this seems to work. Is there any chance to get this into the faq or > handbook? It's seems way more usefull to me than a live-CD. Best thing > would be putting it into sysinstall, but maybe this is not reallistic. > > Best regards, > Friedemann > For the archives - below I've updated my installation guide to work with FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE, GPT and ZFS if anyone finds it useful. Make sure your usb memory stick is empty and unpartitioned, then plug it in and boot from the FreeBSD DVD. Select your country and keyboard layout. Enter the Fixit environment and use the live filesystem on your DVD. Your usb memory stick will most likely be da0 but you can (and should) check it with "camcontrol devlist" before you continue. Create a new GPT partitioning scheme: # gpart create -s gpt da0 Create a 64KiB partition for the zfs bootcode starting at LBA 1920: # gpart add -b 1920 -s 128 -t freebsd-boot da0 Create a zfs partition spanning the remainder of the usb memory stick and give it a label we can refer to: # gpart add -t freebsd-zfs -l FreeBSDonUSB da0 (The starting LBA for the first partition is there to align the partitions to the flash memory's erase block size. This is particularly important for the main zfs partition. The main partition above will start at exactly 1MiB (LBA 2048) which will align it to any erase block size used today. This alignment is also of great importance if you use this guide to install FreeBSD to one of the newer harddrives using 4096 byte sectors.) Install the protective MBR to LBA 0 and the zfs bootcode to the first partition: # gpart bootcode -b /dist/boot/pmbr -p /dist/boot/gptzfsboot -i 1 da0 Create /boot/zfs (for zpool.cache) and load the zfs kernel modules: # mkdir /boot/zfs # kldload /dist/boot/kernel/opensolaris.ko # kldload /dist/boot/kernel/zfs.ko Create a zfs pool and set its bootfs property: # zpool create zrootusb /dev/gpt/FreeBSDonUSB # zpool set bootfs=zrootusb zrootusb Switch to fletcher4 checksums and turn off access time modifications: # zfs set checksum=fletcher4 zrootusb # zfs set atime=off zrootusb Extract at a minimum, base and the generic kernel: # cd /dist/8.1-RELEASE/base # DESTDIR=/zrootusb ./install.sh # cd ../kernels # DESTDIR=/zrootusb ./install.sh generic Delete the empty, default kernel directory and move the generic kernel into its place: # rmdir /zrootusb/boot/kernel # mv /zrootusb/boot/GENERIC /zrootusb/boot/kernel Make sure the zfs modules are loaded at boot: # echo 'zfs_load="YES"' > /zrootusb/boot/loader.conf # echo 'vfs.root.mountfrom="zfs:zrootusb"' >> \ /zrootusb/boot/loader.conf Create /etc/rc.conf. Adjust and add to your own needs: # echo 'ifconfig_DEFAULT="DHCP"' > /zrootusb/etc/rc.conf # echo 'hostname="freebsd"' >> /zrootusb/etc/rc.conf # echo 'keymap="swedish.iso"' >> /zrootusb/etc/rc.conf # echo 'ntpdate_enable="YES"' >> /zrootusb/etc/rc.conf # echo 'sshd_enable="YES"' >> /zrootusb/etc/rc.conf # echo 'zfs_enable="YES"' >> /zrootusb/etc/rc.conf Setup your time zone: # cp /zrootusb/usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Stockholm \ /zrootusb/etc/localtime Create an empty fstab to avoid startup warnings: # touch /zrootusb/etc/fstab Set the root password in the new environment: # cd # chroot /zrootusb /bin/sh # passwd root # exit Copy zpool.cache: # cp /boot/zfs/zpool.cache /zrootusb/boot/zfs Unmount the filesystem and set its mountpoint: # zfs unmount -a # zfs set mountpoint=legacy zrootusb Exit SYSINSTALL and reboot. You now have a fully functional and bootable FreeBSD installation on your usb memory stick. Regards Morgan Wesström From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 21:18:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E789C106566B for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:18:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00478FC16 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o8CLGr0l016533; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:16:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:16:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <201009122116.o8CLGr0l016533@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: cronfy@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: fsck reports errors on clean filesystem (mounted rw) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:18:50 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 10 17:51:18 2010 > From: cronfy > Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 02:27:46 +0400 > To: freebsd-questions > Subject: fsck reports errors on clean filesystem (mounted rw) > > Hello. > > I ran fsck on my filesystems while system was running (partitons were > mounted rw with moderate FS usage). fsck reported there were errors > (INCORRECT BLOCK COUNT and others). I decided to reboot to single mode > and check all filesystems. But in single mode fsck did not find any > errors. > > 1. Can I be sure my filesystem is consistent? yes. > 2. If fsck reports nonexistent errors (and probably will try to fix > them if asked), isn't it even danger to run fsck on running system? They're not non-existant. and they're _not_ "errors". they are *EXPECTED* inconsistancies in the _disk-based_ copies of the file-system meta-data because the 'current' (memory-resident) data is *not* written to disk at the instant the meta-data changes. It is a 'non-issue', because the O/S 'knows what it's doing There are exactly _four_ possible causes of file-system inconsistencies. 1) You can have an unexpected loss of power, where the CPU stops working before it as time to write the above-mentioned 'memory-resident' data to disk. There are sub-classes of tis event, to distinguish between A utility company outage, somebody accidentally 'pulling the plug', be it litterally, or the power on/off switch, and somebody itting the 'reset' button. They all ave te same effect, the processor can't get te 'current' data in memory out to the disk. 2) you can hve a catastropic O/S failure -- a system 'crash' -- were the O/S has discovered an internal inconsistency. _IT_ doesn't trust its own data enough to keep running, and takes 'the lesser of two evils' route of *not* writing "known to be suspect" data over the out-of-date data on the disk. 3) 'bit rot' on the phyiscal media itself. Where what gets read back is *not* what was written there earlier. Modern disk drives detect this inside the controller and use embedded ECC info to give the 'right' data back, while alerting that the problem exists. 4) "Hardware failures" of any of a variety of sorts -- flakey power supply, bad RAM memory, failing controller cipes, etc. Cause 1) can be virtually eliminated by 'good practices', and the use of a UPS with controlled automatic shutdown Cause 3) you can 'stay hread of' by monitoring system logs for 'corrected' errors on magnetic media. Causes 2) and 4) you can't do much about. With the exception of cause 3) -everything- leads to sysem crash which results in the 'preserved' data being inconsistent. The 'good news' is that you *know* it happened, and can run the fixit software (fsck) before letting users back on. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 21:34:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F119F106564A for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:34:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912478FC0A for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:34:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (94.193.93.212) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.124.10) id 4C886ABA0018F791; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:34:10 +0100 Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:34:06 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <20100912223406.00005904@unknown> In-Reply-To: <201009122116.o8CLGr0l016533@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201009122116.o8CLGr0l016533@mail.r-bonomi.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: cronfy@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck reports errors on clean filesystem (mounted rw) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:34:20 -0000 On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:16:53 -0500 (CDT) Robert Bonomi wrote: > There are exactly _four_ possible causes of file-system > inconsistencies. 1) You can have an unexpected loss of power, where > the CPU stops working before it as time to write the above-mentioned > 'memory-resident' data to disk. There are sub-classes of tis event, > to distinguish between A utility company outage, somebody > accidentally 'pulling the plug', be it litterally, or the power > on/off switch, and somebody itting the 'reset' button. They all ave > te same effect, the processor can't get te 'current' data in memory > out to the disk. 2) you can hve a catastropic O/S failure -- a system > 'crash' -- were the O/S has discovered an internal inconsistency. > _IT_ doesn't trust its own data enough to keep running, and takes > 'the lesser of two evils' route of *not* writing "known to be > suspect" data over the out-of-date data on the disk. > 3) 'bit rot' on the phyiscal media itself. Where what gets read > back is *not* what was written there earlier. Modern disk drives > detect this inside the controller and use embedded ECC info to give > the 'right' data back, while alerting that the problem exists. > 4) "Hardware failures" of any of a variety of sorts -- flakey power > supply, bad RAM memory, failing controller cipes, etc. 5. An bug in the filesystem code. I've been seeing UFS corruption in recently -current, as have others, which isn't associated with crashes or bad media. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 21:41:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979F9106566B for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:41:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abergeron@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6477D8FC23 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so5106076iwn.13 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 14:41:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=L2HDMKK2VxR/a8Q2ndF1qgKAO+xVapOxwxOhYxac7a8=; b=KcVlZ/xdycvuakiIPlGwfhLAZSnTgh96+JkcvTa9VMC7RGgU8AS6Nmt21pMNqkmQ/M F8UzD9LV/ncWpsARnVoE1j5p3FTQAPCxnnqL2Qmx6Xh0kyrxTcspqTiWYBxuAHark1GF hrZLSQ4xgP6UUwxWhTB6v/T/sMuOJ3pFpnMaM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=XfAhW5YRzN7B4MTlEQxyWtyv2DLYRhBkKKu+t4QN8MlUf4Rko6YHxVwaBD1yRiJiYF uenECJxvwkpGNopiiZ4YT0jMMOWvrcxlxfDZOmxteBvhYHSuh6ebAzbQWaGwhatAOxC3 llsFR+EloHmwZtk23Xihnd7D+xYNIRA9dq4Ok= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.161.80 with SMTP id q16mr4912793ibx.142.1284325880184; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 14:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.150.210 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 14:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 17:11:20 -0400 Message-ID: From: Arnaud Bergeron To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Services do not start at boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:41:01 -0000 I have a FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE installation with a UFS root and a ZFS pool for data and users. I have a couple of ports installed (netatalk, mediatomb) to share the content of the ZFS pool along with sharing it over NFS. After a fresh boot, the NFS shares do not work, mediatomb is not up and netatalk runs but does not share anything. There may be other things not working properly but those are the ones I notice. If I manually restart mountd, and the two ports using the rc.d scripts then everything works correctly until the next restart. I found this message in the archives which is similar to the problem I have except that I use dhcp: http://marc.info/?l=freebsd-questions&m=128354380615514&w=2 After checking the log I see that indeed my problem is that these services start before the network is available and they don't cope well with that. As a fix, I added dhclient to the REQUIRE: for NETWORKING and a 'sleep 10' after the dhclient command in the dhclient startup script and made sure that background_dhclient is NO, and it still doesn't work. I am at a loss. Arnaud From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 04:24:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB61106566C for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 04:24:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BEF38FC0A for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 04:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o8D4OYNj053993 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:24:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o8D4OYr1053992; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA22846; Sun, 12 Sep 10 21:14:51 PDT Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:14:53 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk Message-Id: <4c8da53d.pPK/NzHAHPlQPOfh%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4c83190a.SG+LIhPWaGtmaaeL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4C835474.7060707@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4c8487cc.Rh42YL91jTIv09e0%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4c84ce46.sHyLaI+H+UzM+J/y%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4c8c5260.+COCCpHgloxRSY2/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4C8CD2A4.3020203@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4C8CD2A4.3020203@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinstall vs gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 04:24:36 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 12/09/2010 05:09:04, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > How do I get sysinstall to recognize a gmirror? > > ... > I don't think sysinstall will do what you want. It certainly has been less than totally cooperative so far :( > However, what is your ultimate goal? > To install a system with a gmirror root drive? No, to install a system with each of /, /usr, and /var mirrored and journalled, with each journal kept in the same (mirrored) partition as its FS -- diagram below. IIUC, to put the journal in the same partition with the FS I have to create the journal while the FS is empty, hence before installing. (This is all UFS -- 512MB seems a bit small for ZFS.) The plan after partitioning the mirror is to create the journals, then install onto the journalled FS's, and finally to insert the second half of the mirror after everything else is up and running. > ... you can boot into the Fixit system, set up mirroring etc. and > then work through the rest of the installation process by hand. > The install sets are just split up tarballs and it's pretty easy > to extract a copy of a system from them. The part I don't know how to do is partitioning gm0 by hand. (I suppose it would require some sort of arcane incantations involving bsdlabel.) For all its limitations, sysinstall seems at least to know how to translate a reasonably human- readable representation of the desired slice and partition layout into the necessary fdisk and bsdlabel commands. Someone suggested using the PC-BSD installer, which knows how to do stuff like this, but when I asked how to do that from a memstick (rather than from a CD or DVD) I didn't get an answer. ad0s2 FreeBSD ad2s2 FreeBSD ad0s2a <----- gm0 -----> ad2s2a | +-----------------+ | v gm0 gm0a gm0a.journal [gjournal label gm0a gm0a] rootFS gm0d gm0d.journal [gjournal label gm0a gm0a] /var gm0e gm0e.journal [gjournal label gm0a gm0a] /usr There's more to it than this, but I think I know how to do the rest. The current sticking point is getting the mirror partitioned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 04:32:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BDD4106566B for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 04:32:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8ED78FC16 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 04:32:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 14345012 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:32:04 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8D4W462011726 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:32:04 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o8D4W325011725 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:32:03 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru using -f Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:32:03 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100913043203.GB11527@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100822052550.GA42346@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20100907090012.GA48608@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4C8616F0.5010401@gmx.com> <20100907110033.GA51618@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4C864145.80805@gmx.com> <20100907145223.GA55660@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4C8754CD.6030003@gmx.com> <20100910125534.GA50527@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4c8b3849.mx6rDwHZtDT6N5YR%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4c8b3849.mx6rDwHZtDT6N5YR%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://vas.tomsk.ru/vas.asc Subject: Re: ipfw fwd and ipfw allow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 04:32:07 -0000 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > ... the 'fwd ... keep-state' statement does create a useful > > dynamic rule. It contradicts the ipfw(8) man page but works ... > > Hopefully someone who understands all this will submit a patch > for the man page :) The man page says that the "Dynamic rules will be checked at the first check-state, keep-state or limit occurrence, and the action performed upon a match will be the same as in the parent rule." It suggests that if the parent rule is a 'fwd' rule, the corresponding dynamic rule is also a 'fwd' rule, which would be no use (who needs a reflexive 'fwd' rule?). However, in reality a parent 'fwd' rule seems to create an 'allow' dynamic rule, which is useful but confusing. Where exactly is this place in the ipfw code? -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 04:37:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5869110656A8 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 04:37:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1CB8FC08 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 04:37:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so3400611fxm.13 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:37:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=b7JbuwvpbrQ1sFMd6SabIvtpZ6mqdjzROgCp5r0lLWE=; b=YjKHgAYGTvsLI2ztd+x0NrO6bUYum+RbBlMRVBs+hAqCR9i9K4UG6nXh1GJ3Yk7rqK S/uQxEOQK2zXvmYFaphucj9qihs7QcmIRN+9TjGCWvGNsYhzFxQlATq22dz1lmLr3cZC uwDTsxpSnp6qdQ2EinWNg3LyRmAFzj9gRAnuk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=u/2Py2EEEWkoJcGdG1s3Emyp6O8q1Byoh7PguPlxe/tXaHMvOWxdg1dlj1jQkN251R Dbo3QedimwKfgTGPa9yePPDIjwwTZKP0XlV2wYSne1hraubuSxWLLTtPR53M/ntSH0RI GM0cPS21cuG8Of8ws7lqHqo8TVH9pysymxk1E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.118.69 with SMTP id u5mr2978792faq.32.1284352659897; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.57.20 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:37:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4c8da53d.pPK/NzHAHPlQPOfh%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4c83190a.SG+LIhPWaGtmaaeL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4C835474.7060707@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4c8487cc.Rh42YL91jTIv09e0%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4c84ce46.sHyLaI+H+UzM+J/y%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4c8c5260.+COCCpHgloxRSY2/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4C8CD2A4.3020203@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4c8da53d.pPK/NzHAHPlQPOfh%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:37:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinstall vs gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 04:37:41 -0000 On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:14 PM, wrote: > The part I don't know how to do is partitioning gm0 by hand. > (I suppose it would require some sort of arcane incantations > involving bsdlabel.) For all its limitations, sysinstall > seems at least to know how to translate a reasonably human- > readable representation of the desired slice and partition > layout into the necessary fdisk and bsdlabel commands. > I don't know of any exact howto, but the general principles are laid out here: http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/Mirror It shows how to load geom modules from usb stick, once they are loaded you can then setup geom, Next fdisk/gpart accordingly(don't forget to make it bootable). If your setup if GPT compatible, I recommend using it. IMO, it's significantly more straightforward than the old mbr style. once you've got your partitions setup the way you want, create your filesystems and use the instrustions on the page to extract the distrobution on to them. Obviously they need to be mounted for this to occur, so adapt the example to your own use. Note, I've never tried to boot from a gjournaled geom, but I think it will work. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 06:45:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DA9106566B for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:45:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from omerfsen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06448FC19 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:45:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so5012585vws.13 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:45:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jnCLY+wJrEgUAGKfstWCWlhqPP0UPCgqQd4jRnV9tSI=; b=A5dzcNvzH5JzfmHyd3N5o4HRoeQ/UMG0t1ug38CbnDudO1ElFbCqAO38yAVf/G7HeZ Pt0Xb9czXuGf3ASYnhffvbBtrT6PuHrnCwjF2WjaAaeFaSr4Hcfmmbqg6HO/1sP/zhDo /3jTdUrgl8MEquXB5JwtnNF3cSyZJUwiSzjTk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=yEPk6w6xOuxfFr+2DvABh2eCcZI5Tg689kZKcCZJMX6SCo6JlGzfMsiwTZJk5W8AGJ yFb2aXl8/bWVVOcqYRphTDg5rEl2CPoWAr3OxzXDL6CCkjBvJcpf9+s02LTwg590fZK+ Phen68nrLJsEOkhAvhZZNmVdeaQ0mVes2KR3Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.110.32 with SMTP id l32mr2265050vcp.168.1284360322125; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.124.14 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:45:22 +0300 Message-ID: From: Omer Faruk SEN To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Windows AD and ntpd sync problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:45:23 -0000 Hi, I am trying to sync my time against a ntp server on Active Directory but no matter what i do ntpd did not sync against AD's NTP server. ntpdate works perfectly against AD but not ntpd. Here is my ntpd.conf: restrict default nomodify notrap noquery restrict 127.0.0.1 server 10.0.0.85 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92981065698 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:59:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA858FC17 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:59:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (94.193.93.212) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.124.10) id 4C8D78340000B980; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 07:58:58 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 07:58:53 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Omer Faruk SEN Message-ID: <20100913075853.00005f0a@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Windows AD and ntpd sync problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:59:00 -0000 On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:45:22 +0300 Omer Faruk SEN wrote: > restrict default nomodify notrap noquery > restrict 127.0.0.1 > server 10.0.0.85 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087ED106566B for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 10:34:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=187218d760=cbakken@roros.net) Received: from firmanett.no (mail.firmanett.no [79.161.108.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760878FC15 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 10:34:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.29.230.142] by mail.firmanett.no (MDaemon PRO v11.0.3) with ESMTP id md50020823672.msg for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:22:23 +0200 X-Spam-Processed: mail.firmanett.no, Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:22:23 +0200 (not processed: spam filter heuristic analysis disabled) X-MDPtrLookup-Result: pass dns.ptr=revex01.rev.no (ip=195.204.18.8) (mail.firmanett.no) X-MDHeloLookup-Result: hardfail smtp.helo=[172.29.230.142] (does not match 195.204.18.8) (mail.firmanett.no) X-Authenticated-Sender: cbakken@roros.net X-MDRemoteIP: 195.204.18.8 X-Return-Path: prvs=187218d760=cbakken@roros.net X-Envelope-From: cbakken@roros.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Christian_Th=F8rn_Bakken?= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:21:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <871506CD-C75A-4672-950C-BBEFC44F3740@roros.net> Message-Id: <0962C84F-C0C0-45EA-AE93-DC550BD2D925@roros.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: IBM server SAS controller support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: cbakken@roros.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 10:34:50 -0000 I've now added the mfi_load option to loader.conf At boot this gives me the following message: module_register: module mfi/mfid already exists! Module mfi/mfid failed to register: 17 This leads me to believe that the driver is already compiled into the = kernel, as stated by SpamTitan. The installation procedure still can't find any disks! Are there any other things I could try? Obviously it can be done, but = I'm apparently not capable of doing it. Any suggestions, anyone? Regards=20 Christian T. Bakken Den 10. sep. 2010 kl. 15.51 skrev Samuel Mart=EDn Moro: > two solutions: > - compiling the kernel with the driver (device pci and device mfi in = the > configuration file) > - mfi_load=3D"YES" in your loader.conf >=20 >=20 > Samuel Mart=EDn Moro > {EPITECH.} tek4 > CamTrace S.A.S > (+033) 1 41 38 37 60 > 1 All=E9e de la Venelle > 92150 Suresnes > FRANCE >=20 > "Nobody wants to say how this works. > Maybe nobody knows ..." > Xorg.conf(5) >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Christian Th=F8rn Bakken > wrote: >=20 >> I understand that you, Ivan, managed to install FreeBSD on an IBM = Series x >> 3650 M3 server with the LSI M1015 SAS/SATA RAID controller. >>=20 >>=20 >> Ivan, did you tweak something to install, or did it work "out of the = box" >> for you? >> Which FreeBSD version did you install? >>=20 >> My main objective is to install the appliance distro SpanTitan 5.04 = from >> www.spamtitan.com. It's based on FreeBSD 7.3 and the manufacturer >> confirms that the mfi(4) driver is compiled into the kernel. >>=20 >> I've also tried with another (vanilla) version of FreeBSD (8.1), but = with >> no luck. It just says there's no disk drives found. >>=20 >> Regards >> Christian T. Bakken_______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 12:10:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323D6106564A for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:10:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A928FC16 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:10:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywt2 with SMTP id 2so2292629ywt.13 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 05:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.138.2 with SMTP id l2mr1348543ybd.41.1284379819203; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 05:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-147-230.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.147.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i4sm6378781ybd.15.2010.09.13.05.10.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 13 Sep 2010 05:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DBF2CE54862 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:10:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:10:07 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20100913081007.5b504f3d@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAG1BMVEX3/uPVnZf2/v9ejGkqHB74++H///+cHCT3m6cgqYvfAAACbElEQVQ4jWXTQW/bIBQAYJLJuRMn8TVCss9zTdrrXJ6bHe1Ej/bossF9EpJ3nbapf3sP8JxOQ4qV8OU9HvjBROWcYNlKHtxlQ1/huBaOBiMwQtgHhbokMLIT76Acps5hvy61+6WsjkCZzNEW0+fcQ7Nl5uoPCegjjjhN5/MEABd89k9hXkQoX6cwPIDKCt8tYG5wpmdrxAyuolTPqpiVoEpVCWvl6e00RAD4JBJQnO4lvv0O4Cnd3WUGevYNFohxFYAy7jCCtW39LaQK8BgDAgiHVinVJlCiFKlcqgEHfwb1EuG+DwFGMO3oCIuJIEYoa8KJECBB+UBldgm0MQmEGz7GQr8XYRPKzYNO1zZ8mgdAu4BG5Ke/4KFboM8458UScViAAvYD93OAsu+Bc3zxCU7ZAjT74+dQv9K7oO0d1wuscop48Pc50O5bcVwgGzh/mXzaizJuAWERh8k3eaxKmxu4kV1p2XOEg3i3c8M+EKR93P0D1KATpC55vMHaGqFf5f/AwhlrhHgg8DTezopt6I3o3Qx4q4q6YaPxK8RxcClXeFGhTTS++QR6TS/oBs7l4WhzuNMubZG6hIBkF4qqZVdWczIqSrjKVF/i4o26IP2oElBGFy5CXKSnf6UWDTC6zKSqoAvzsakjjBvdzLKnmxdhY8eRsX7VSCUBdgD1hVJpx6y2OOS1DNDILYmqdWUJ+oHvd0rRvAqX5kpxQMR6yxHzPV6VlPFyWE7LKc36keNQI64gLP8Ybgtmg+zYuBl4fuI8VqW2RqDGE8Uzu7GxGa803whDdxx3bSZbRhfQUSxvmnpLZWpRFqHz7v8AvsBe0S1zv9UAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/KAp3iwwz5szAYDjDzOajtXo"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Subject: security log entry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:10:20 -0000 --Sig_/KAp3iwwz5szAYDjDzOajtXo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =46rom time to time, I will find an entry similar to the follow in the /var/log/security log: Sep 12 07:23:59 scorpio kernel: ipi6pf0w0: A36c0c0e ptA cUcDePp = t1 92U.D1P6 81.912..11061:81.510.5150 12:2145.005.50 .222541.:05.305.32 5o1= u:t5 3v5i3a innf ev0i I have IPFW configured as my firewall. I am not sure exactly what is commencing when that above log entry is created. Apparently, or at least as far as I can tell, nothing is being effected. I was just wondering if anyone had any idea what it might be pertaining to. --=20 Jerry =E2=9C=8C FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ --Sig_/KAp3iwwz5szAYDjDzOajtXo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMjhSoAAoJEHdwsA8xwKhFKSoH/AhkSicKGg6I/VbARkBEWI/t TPYFE+6t7WbbkbNZEJrGx6A0h008tpA3g8cZ5aLomegTI5vnW1MGV+bgYCuD5qc0 A893wnVFYOR/vm08RUcimBbbid+vDPpMZNUYhtXbMek7RSLM121UdvVKLRyT1NTg ZCW3NVewxTA2Aea5yluIMzRZxHD2rgw7j1XJzDTCuBMJx4nOg/R0I4fOIbH48E7q oa/eHIO5zbP+CRa02U0Rtd8D1OTHMEZ8D7ctCGhWPqCSiUDYVlCqt2K8KzU/trwr 2ucxRZRqfRqGr40d5Be5WVmTGaXF4JWb94oItphxv6lF7sRNB2Doy3eI5HD3miI= =Ud6d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/KAp3iwwz5szAYDjDzOajtXo-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 13:49:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2CDF106564A for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:49:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g.danecki@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6795F8FC13 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:49:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so5909857iwn.13 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:49:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=o5IB55Y2rBBrCjFAtaCeQ8swe21AknVSikqvqh5bh6E=; b=AnsskrrkcFSPuQ2YIbUJP7xCWCzMbKjb7LPbgriacPjcAeaALRW42Qy8urdkvlVW/F Q3RZxAkzZA7pu1jMgOv7keTvYjvzu5+qkZqbUFm4SabLeOr1F5R8FnusUXkcc3TrzRa6 +NLgWw0jop3nET6CoC0LwkjQqc6us4jZ3AXAo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=JjBs2xgjT0jInZXwUd94QglTW4BoO0huiE8GOfAdajD6SXOyCmqFHiXoXdf5EdZPAm Y9d+Nv2efZM6iabahhFHR+cihvEP/Fk347EslvWzKAOSwS4PRv/XSayejWvTThHn745Y d99P2R1PZWHm8JdYF/SRnGIiKtvfy55FyW/A8= Received: by 10.231.167.67 with SMTP id p3mr6232911iby.20.1284384124162; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:22:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.140.3 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:21:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100913081007.5b504f3d@scorpio> References: <20100913081007.5b504f3d@scorpio> From: Grzegorz Danecki Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:21:43 +0200 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: security log entry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:49:48 -0000 Hello, I've seen similar garbage (on the screen however) and options PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=3D128 solved the problem, maybe this will help you somehow. On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Jerry wrote: > From time to time, I will find an entry similar to the follow in > the /var/log/security log: > > > Sep 12 07:23:59 scorpio kernel: ipi6pf0w0: A36c0c0e ptA cUcDeP= p > t1 92U.D1P6 81.912..11061:81.510.5150 12:2145.005.50 .222541.:05.305.32 > 5o1u:t5 3v5i3a innf ev0i > > > I have IPFW configured as my firewall. I am not sure exactly what is > commencing when that above log entry is created. Apparently, or at > least as far as I can tell, nothing is being effected. > > I was just wondering if anyone had any idea what it might be pertaining > to. > > -- > Jerry =E2=9C=8C > FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net > > Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. > Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. > __________________________________________________________________ > > --=20 Grzegorz Danecki From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 15:09:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F6A106566C for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:09:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942BE8FC0C for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:09:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywt2 with SMTP id 2so2364849ywt.13 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.229.17 with SMTP id b17mr1612319ybh.379.1284390566856; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-147-230.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.147.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q21sm6551924ybk.23.2010.09.13.08.09.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D3F2AE54862 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:09:23 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20100913110923.29834af5@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <20100913081007.5b504f3d@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAG1BMVEX3/uPVnZf2/v9ejGkqHB74++H///+cHCT3m6cgqYvfAAACbElEQVQ4jWXTQW/bIBQAYJLJuRMn8TVCss9zTdrrXJ6bHe1Ej/bossF9EpJ3nbapf3sP8JxOQ4qV8OU9HvjBROWcYNlKHtxlQ1/huBaOBiMwQtgHhbokMLIT76Acps5hvy61+6WsjkCZzNEW0+fcQ7Nl5uoPCegjjjhN5/MEABd89k9hXkQoX6cwPIDKCt8tYG5wpmdrxAyuolTPqpiVoEpVCWvl6e00RAD4JBJQnO4lvv0O4Cnd3WUGevYNFohxFYAy7jCCtW39LaQK8BgDAgiHVinVJlCiFKlcqgEHfwb1EuG+DwFGMO3oCIuJIEYoa8KJECBB+UBldgm0MQmEGz7GQr8XYRPKzYNO1zZ8mgdAu4BG5Ke/4KFboM8458UScViAAvYD93OAsu+Bc3zxCU7ZAjT74+dQv9K7oO0d1wuscop48Pc50O5bcVwgGzh/mXzaizJuAWERh8k3eaxKmxu4kV1p2XOEg3i3c8M+EKR93P0D1KATpC55vMHaGqFf5f/AwhlrhHgg8DTezopt6I3o3Qx4q4q6YaPxK8RxcClXeFGhTTS++QR6TS/oBs7l4WhzuNMubZG6hIBkF4qqZVdWczIqSrjKVF/i4o26IP2oElBGFy5CXKSnf6UWDTC6zKSqoAvzsakjjBvdzLKnmxdhY8eRsX7VSCUBdgD1hVJpx6y2OOS1DNDILYmqdWUJ+oHvd0rRvAqX5kpxQMR6yxHzPV6VlPFyWE7LKc36keNQI64gLP8Ybgtmg+zYuBl4fuI8VqW2RqDGE8Uzu7GxGa803whDdxx3bSZbRhfQUSxvmnpLZWpRFqHz7v8AvsBe0S1zv9UAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: security log entry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:09:28 -0000 On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:21:43 +0200 Grzegorz Danecki articulated: > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Jerry > wrote: > > > From time to time, I will find an entry similar to the follow in > > the /var/log/security log: > > > > Sep 12 07:23:59 scorpio kernel: ipi6pf0w0: A36c0c0e ptA > > cUcDePp t1 92U.D1P6 81.912..11061:81.510.5150 > > 12:2145.005.50 .222541.:05.305.32 5o1u:t5 3v5i3a innf ev0i > > > > I have IPFW configured as my firewall. I am not sure exactly what is > > commencing when that above log entry is created. Apparently, or at > > least as far as I can tell, nothing is being effected. > > > > I was just wondering if anyone had any idea what it might be > > pertaining to. > Hello, > > I've seen similar garbage (on the screen however) and > > options PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=128 > > solved the problem, maybe this will help you somehow. That notation all ready exists (by default) in my kernel, FreeBSD-8.1 (amd64) options PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=128 # Prevent printf output being interspersed. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ I've got a very bad feeling about this. Han Solo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 15:33:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0CB106566B for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:33:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo@danielisz.eu) Received: from mx0.hostoffice.hu (mx0.hostoffice.hu [195.228.74.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71E08FC1A for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:32:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.160.22.241] (office.hu.digi.tv [94.21.228.238]) by mx0.hostoffice.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C24EAAB for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:14:31 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:14:32 +0200 Message-Id: <00E5BA22-4813-44A2-AA56-40205950C8E8@danielisz.eu> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-hostoffice-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-hostoffice-MailScanner-From: laszlo@danielisz.eu X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:58:51 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD Update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:33:01 -0000 Hi! I noticed one little difference how to update my system on freebsd.org 1st: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-freebsdupdate.html: it = says to do an portupgrade -af after I issued freebsd-update install=20 "# freebsd-update install Note: Depending on whether any libraries version numbers got bumped, = there may only be two install phases instead of three. All third party software will now need to be rebuilt and re-installed. = This is required as installed software may depend on libraries which = have been removed during the upgrade process. The ports-mgmt/portupgrade = command may be used to automate this process. The following commands may = be used to begin this process: # portupgrade -f ruby # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db # portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db # portupgrade -af Once this has completed, finish the upgrade process with a final call to = freebsd-update. Issue the following command to tie up all loose ends in = the upgrade process:" 2nd: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.1R/announce.html=10: it says that = I only have to rebuild all third-party application if I've udpate from = 7.3 or earlier. I think it might be good to mentions this in the = handbook to. With all the respect, Laszlo Danielisz, Budapest, Hungary www.danielisz.eu= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 16:15:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1F7106566C for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:15:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvidican@m2.vidican.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3FB8FC12 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:15:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb18 with SMTP id 18so7608677wwb.31 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:15:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.176.8 with SMTP id a8mr2768173wem.93.1284393206914; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: nvidican@m2.vidican.com Received: by 10.216.181.70 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:53:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [136.1.1.105] Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:53:26 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: reuuSJhigOEVzcfbtO6EeEMEp5w Message-ID: From: Nathan Vidican To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: ipfw fwd for transparent proxy (squid) - but, not on loopback X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:15:27 -0000 Hey all - I've been trying to implement a transparent proxy for all outgoing traffic to port 80 to forward to a proxy server. The problem is that the proxy itself resides on a different host than the forward rule does. Has anyone done something similar? Ideally I'd like to implement with ipfw, but not opposed to other suggestions? Internet -> firewall/gateway -> proxy server -> LAN/clients Where the firewall/gateway is the central router for multiple networks, including the public subnet which 'proxy server' gets it's external IP for. So ideally I would like something along the lines of this (assuming the proxy server is running on 10.1.1.12:3128): ipfw add 600 fwd 10.1.1.12,3128 tcp from 10.1.2.0/24 to any 80 via 10.1.2.254 ipfw add 600 fwd 10.1.1.12,3128 tcp from 10.1.3.0/24 to any 80 via 10.1.3.254 ipfw add 600 fwd 10.1.1.12,3128 tcp from 10.1.1.0/26 to any 80 via 10.1.1.1 I have tried the identical rules to above using 127.0.0.1,3128 - of course starting up squid on the gateway machine too... the problem is that machine simply doesn't have the resources and I'd prefer to run squid on a different host. Any suggestions or referrals to RTFM somewhere would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- Nathan Vidican nathan@vidican.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 16:23:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32551106566B for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:23:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvidican@m2.vidican.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B1D8FC17 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:23:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so7467937wyb.13 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:23:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.54.202 with SMTP id i52mr4575186wec.40.1284393468043; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Sender: nvidican@m2.vidican.com Received: by 10.216.181.70 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:57:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [136.1.1.105] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:57:47 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7okBuMFByfYUzYAk8iI_RWyJ8L4 Message-ID: From: Nathan Vidican To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: ipfw fwd for transparent proxy (squid) - but, not on loopback X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:23:44 -0000 On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Nathan Vidican wrote= : > > Hey all - I've been trying to implement a transparent proxy for all outgo= ing traffic to port 80 to forward to a proxy server. The problem is that th= e proxy itself resides on a different host than the forward rule does. Has = anyone done something similar? Ideally I'd like to implement with ipfw, but= not opposed to other suggestions? > > Internet -> firewall/gateway -> proxy server -> LAN/clients > > Where the firewall/gateway is the central router for multiple networks, i= ncluding the public subnet which 'proxy server' gets it's external IP for. = So ideally I would like something along the lines of this (assuming the pro= xy server is running on 10.1.1.12:3128): > > ipfw add 600 fwd 10.1.1.12,3128 tcp from 10.1.2.0/24 to any 80 via 10.1.2= .254 > ipfw add 600 fwd 10.1.1.12,3128 tcp from 10.1.3.0/24 to any 80 via 10.1.3= .254 > ipfw add 600 fwd 10.1.1.12,3128 tcp from 10.1.1.0/26 to any 80 via 10.1.1= .1 > > I have tried the identical rules to above using 127.0.0.1,3128 - of cours= e starting up squid on the gateway machine too... the problem is that machi= ne simply doesn't have the resources and I'd prefer to run squid on a diffe= rent host. > > Any suggestions or referrals to RTFM somewhere would be greatly appreciat= ed. Thanks. > > -- > Nathan Vidican > nathan@vidican.com > Go figure, five minutes after posting I found what I needed in squid's documentation. FYI in case anyone comes accross this thread, what I had been doing wrong was 'http_port 3128 transparent' should have been 'http_port 3128 intercept' instead. See this link for more details: http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/Intercept/FreeBsdIpfw -- Nathan Vidican nathan@vidican.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 20:36:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B8E10656C0 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:36:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web1@vcvps1364.vcdns.de) Received: from vcvps1364.vcdns.de (vcvps1364.vcdns.de [88.80.215.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86E88FC0A for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcvps1364.vcdns.de (Postfix, from userid 33) id E589D10BAE38; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 22:06:40 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Mme Claire Page MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20100913200640.E589D10BAE38@vcvps1364.vcdns.de> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 22:06:40 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Ramadan heureux mon cher X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mm.chiwe.conte@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:36:41 -0000 I am Mrs Claire Page sending you this mail from my sick bed in the hospital. 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S'il vous plaît communiquer avec mon avocat, Email: (barr_willam_frank@lawyer.com) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 00:10:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1371065672 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 00:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@fletchermoorland.co.uk) Received: from hydra.fletchermoorland.co.uk (hydra.fletchermoorland.co.uk [78.33.209.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147EA8FC17 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 00:10:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from demophon.fletchermoorland.co.uk ([192.168.0.154]) by hydra.fletchermoorland.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8DNs6sj019127; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 00:54:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from paul@fletchermoorland.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C8EB99E.50609@fletchermoorland.co.uk> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 23:54:06 +0000 From: Paul Wootton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100817 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100910151651.GA29465@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <20100910151651.GA29465@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on hydra.fletchermoorland.co.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: sterling@camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 00:10:39 -0000 On 09/10/10 15:16, Chip Camden wrote: > Perhaps someone could provide specific use cases for which Java is the > only good solution? > Take a look at some online games. For example Runescape (www.runescape.com) Taken from Wikipedia "/*RuneScape*/ is a fantasy massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) released in January 2001 by Andrew and Paul Gower,^[2] and developed by Jagex Ltd. It is a graphical browser game implemented on the client-side in Java , and incorporates 3D rendering . The game has approximately 10 million active accounts, over 130 million registered accounts,^[3] and is recognised by the Guinness World Records as the world's most popular free MMORPG.^[4] " Using Java, Jagex have made Runescape available to most computer users, not just Windows users A lot of IP-KVMs also use client side Java apps. 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On this system, the ports openssl package has been installed. With the make buildworld, the compilation of sendmail fails with the message: /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/ld: warning: libz.so.3, needed by /usr/local/lib/libssl.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link) Problem is that the new kernel is expecting (or compiling the sources against) libz.so.4 (/usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libz/libz.so.4). libz.so.3 is available in /lib/libz.so.3 (FreeBSD 6.4). Is there any way to break this dependency, such that the make buildworld completes successfully? It is openssl from ports depending on libz.so.3 of FreeBSD 6.4, sendmail is compiled with openssl from ports for FreeBSD 7.3, which provides libz.so.4... The upgrade path 6.4 -> 7.3 with ports openssl is probably not unique, others will have a similar upgrade path. Can I specify something (/etc/make.conf?) such that 'make buildworld' makes use of base openssl and not ports openssl? Or should I uninstall ports openssl (and recompile half of my ports, and later again recompile all for freebsd 7.3)? Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks, -- Benno From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 08:01:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69CA1065693 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 08:01:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64EB08FC0A for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 08:01:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [109.85.104.204] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvQSV-0003yD-8B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:01:43 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8E81hKd002323 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:01:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o8E81guR002322 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:01:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:01:42 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100914080141.GA2286@current.Sisis.de> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 109.85.104.204 Subject: sendmail && resolv.conf changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 08:01:45 -0000 Hello, When using a laptop it is normal that there are some changes in resolv.conf during the live, for example: boot time: no network available start of PPP over UMTS: resolv.conf from provider start VPN to connect to company: resolv.conf from company ... it seems that sendmail is not aware of such changes in the resolv.conf and always get stuck with the old DNS and ofc does not work on incoming mails (provided by fetchmail). A restart helps, but is there some better way to let sendmail switch to the new DNS environment when resolv.conf changes? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 08:42:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535D61065696 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 08:42:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomaszd@paraklet.net) Received: from bxc133.internetdsl.tpnet.pl (bxc133.internetdsl.tpnet.pl [83.18.236.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90FBF8FC13 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 08:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3437 invoked by uid 0); 14 Sep 2010 08:15:49 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by first.magraf.pl (envelope-from , uid 0) with qmail-scanner-2.01st (clamdscan: 0.95.3/11901. spamassassin: 3.2.5. perlscan: 2.01st. Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.044919 secs); 14 Sep 2010 08:15:49 -0000 Received: from localhost.magraf.pl (HELO paraklet.net) (127.0.0.1) by bxc133.internetdsl.tpnet.pl with SMTP; 14 Sep 2010 08:15:48 -0000 Received: from 85.115.34.41 (SquirrelMail authenticated user tomaszd@paraklet.net) by paraklet.net with HTTP; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:15:49 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20100914080141.GA2286@current.Sisis.de> References: <20100914080141.GA2286@current.Sisis.de> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:15:49 +0100 From: "tomasz dereszynski" To: "Matthias Apitz" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: Re: sendmail && resolv.conf changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 08:42:36 -0000 > > Hello, > > When using a laptop it is normal that there are some changes in > resolv.conf during the live, for example: > > boot time: no network available > start of PPP over UMTS: resolv.conf from provider > start VPN to connect to company: resolv.conf from company > ... > > it seems that sendmail is not aware of such changes in the resolv.conf > and always get stuck with the old DNS and ofc does not work on incoming > mails (provided by fetchmail). A restart helps, but is there some better > way to let sendmail switch to the new DNS environment when resolv.conf > changes? > > Thanks > My very wide guess would be that Sendmail starts before system obtain network settings from DHCP. But I do not remember Sendmail settings well enough. -- bEsT rEgArDs | "Confidence is what you have before you tomasz dereszynski | understand the problem." -- Woody Allen | Spes confisa Deo | "In theory, theory and practice are much numquam confusa recedit | the same. In practice they are very | different." -- Albert Einstein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 08:54:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10166106566B for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 08:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99AB18FC0C for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 08:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvRHm-0004Xg-Ff for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:54:42 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8E8sknf001922 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:54:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o8E8skj4001921 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:54:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:54:46 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100914085445.GA1854@current.Sisis.de> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100914080141.GA2286@current.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Subject: Re: sendmail && resolv.conf changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 08:54:45 -0000 El día Tuesday, September 14, 2010 a las 09:15:49AM +0100, tomasz dereszynski escribió: > > > > > Hello, > > > > When using a laptop it is normal that there are some changes in > > resolv.conf during the live, for example: > > > > boot time: no network available > > start of PPP over UMTS: resolv.conf from provider > > start VPN to connect to company: resolv.conf from company > > ... > > > > it seems that sendmail is not aware of such changes in the resolv.conf > > and always get stuck with the old DNS and ofc does not work on incoming > > mails (provided by fetchmail). A restart helps, but is there some better > > way to let sendmail switch to the new DNS environment when resolv.conf > > changes? > > > > Thanks > > > My very wide guess would be that Sendmail starts before system obtain > network settings from DHCP. Your guess is correct :-) What I wanted to say: sendmail runs and DHCP changes in certain situations the IP, routing and DNS, and sendmail does not adopt on these changes. matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 09:28:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBFC1065670 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:28:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomaszd@paraklet.net) Received: from bxc133.internetdsl.tpnet.pl (bxc133.internetdsl.tpnet.pl [83.18.236.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E66F8FC13 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:28:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2577 invoked by uid 0); 14 Sep 2010 09:28:13 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by first.magraf.pl (envelope-from , uid 0) with qmail-scanner-2.01st (clamdscan: 0.95.3/11901. spamassassin: 3.2.5. perlscan: 2.01st. Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.050112 secs); 14 Sep 2010 09:28:13 -0000 Received: from localhost.magraf.pl (HELO paraklet.net) (127.0.0.1) by bxc133.internetdsl.tpnet.pl with SMTP; 14 Sep 2010 09:28:13 -0000 Received: from 85.115.34.41 (SquirrelMail authenticated user tomaszd@paraklet.net) by paraklet.net with HTTP; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:28:13 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20100914085445.GA1854@current.Sisis.de> References: <20100914080141.GA2286@current.Sisis.de> <20100914085445.GA1854@current.Sisis.de> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:28:13 +0100 From: "tomasz dereszynski" To: "Matthias Apitz" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: Re: sendmail && resolv.conf changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:28:19 -0000 > El día Tuesday, September 14, 2010 a las 09:15:49AM +0100, tomasz > dereszynski escribió: > >> >> > >> > Hello, >> > >> > When using a laptop it is normal that there are some changes in >> > resolv.conf during the live, for example: >> > >> > boot time: no network available >> > start of PPP over UMTS: resolv.conf from provider >> > start VPN to connect to company: resolv.conf from company >> > ... >> > >> > it seems that sendmail is not aware of such changes in the resolv.conf >> > and always get stuck with the old DNS and ofc does not work on >> incoming >> > mails (provided by fetchmail). A restart helps, but is there some >> better >> > way to let sendmail switch to the new DNS environment when resolv.conf >> > changes? >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> My very wide guess would be that Sendmail starts before system obtain >> network settings from DHCP. > > Your guess is correct :-) > > What I wanted to say: sendmail runs and DHCP changes in certain > situations the IP, routing and DNS, and sendmail does not adopt on these > changes. delay Sendmail start to after network settings loaded from DHCP. not sure if there is any 'documentation correct' way of doing that but 'home crafted' one would be to move /etc/rc.sendmail to /usr/local/etc/rc.d/blah.sendmail.sh and remove it from rc.config hope someone here knows more proper way and can advise. -- bEsT rEgArDs | "Confidence is what you have before you tomasz dereszynski | understand the problem." -- Woody Allen | Spes confisa Deo | "In theory, theory and practice are much numquam confusa recedit | the same. In practice they are very | different." -- Albert Einstein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 13:27:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29B11065672 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:27:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBD08FC16 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:27:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb18 with SMTP id 18so8917914wwb.31 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 06:27:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KjA3UxS+m/1VpIb5GubOACshY8DAZS5YWbB9K0ITs6I=; b=KsAOzv37URlGGWEbq0+kh8ygpYA+PJ9Kq5++uhsKS9onjRJ1AlhtoaNmZ/zXC1TMmb S0LeIKsAec9WXuqsjYwoAoAphpd9EE++6K8yR2m7D4AJS+0RRcjTrhDbN6gZ0XHK6tgi m21jpUUwcMxsPHVmtc9ovRWJqFcinULXlv3wk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Iv09gl6YhlSZdxjQpu1D2IrWf2up2NNEUaj+VNrc8f+InOQFUdXFrPaue1TzkmdJNd P/2jA8X11hMhD7uhLt0fnyDFcjKdyBioyuy7MdezNhSjwmObbw0UXH/FCq8CsPjB0+qH CVNdHOjnsGYtathRZEs2Zr+KybFHmvhXXxuHc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.188.135 with SMTP id a7mr3943870wen.39.1284469019895; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 05:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.185.205 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 05:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 08:56:59 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jim To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: i386 jail on AMD64 system not seeing network. AMD64 jails working fine. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:27:56 -0000 I am trying to run a teamspeak server, so I need an i386 jail. However, the jail seems to have issues with connecting to the network. * I set up the jail (make clean buildworld install distribution TARGET=i386 DESTDIR=/data/jail/speak/), and get no errors. * I mount /data/jail/speak/dev and /data/jail/speak/proc as I would on an AMD64 jail. * I copy over my /etc/hosts file, with an entry added for the teamspeak jail * I copy over my /etc/resolv.conf file * I set up the rc.conf file with: defaultrouter="192.168.1.1" hostname="speak.mydomain" #the following are also set on my web and email jails amd_enable="NO" sshd_enable="YES" usbd_enable="NO" rpc_bind="NO" * I nfs mounts /usr/ports to /data/jail/speak/usr/ports * I start the jail with "jail -s 2 /data/jail/speak "speak.mydomain" 192.168.1.9 /bin/sh ** The shell starts * I installed bash and lynx through ports - both have their distfiles and those of dependencies already downloaded * I left the jail and came back in with "jail -s 2 /data/jail/speak "speak.mydomain" 192.168.1.9 /usr/local/bin/bash Up to this point, there is no trouble. * I tried installing teamspeak: cd /usr/ports/audio/teamspeak_server; make install clean => Couldn't fetch it. Please try to retrieve this => port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/teamspeak and try again *** Error code 1 * I try to connect to either my router or the web server I have at 192.168.1.5 with lynx. First I get: "Making HTTP connection to 192.168.1.1" (or 192.168.1.5), and the browser sits there for a while. This is followed by: Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host. * From the base system or either of the other jails, I can connect to either. * I try the jail again, this time with '-s 0', and I still can't connect to either site. The main system conf does not have the jails loaded specifically, I start the jails manually. The ifconfig setups look like this: hostname="server.mydomain" ifconfig_nfe0="inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" #we are borg ifconfig_nfe0_alias0="inet 192.168.1.3 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_nfe0_alias1="inet 192.168.1.4 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_nfe0_alias2="inet 192.168.1.5 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_nfe0_alias3="inet 192.168.1.6 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_nfe0_alias4="inet 192.168.1.7 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_nfe0_alias5="inet 192.168.1.8 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_nfe0_alias6="inet 192.168.1.9 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_nfe0_alias7="inet 192.168.1.25 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_nfe0_alias8="inet 192.168.1.80 netmask 255.255.255.0" defaultrouter="192.168.1.1" Anyone know what might be causing this? Thanks, -Jim Stapleton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 16:11:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FAAB1065670; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:11:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jules.stocks@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D30D8FC08; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:11:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz15 with SMTP id 15so518140bwz.13 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:11:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wLnnoogYtLTgB8Hcmj5BVDBUECnv13ytJPeeIN+kCK4=; b=LfR37p+no8kqqJBg8pYCIDyaDnrVLGXKduEC88gBu+Vbz8nqZmu7g06w9kTTCWLrU5 kNUzmSUq1Ik2bi8W4epFya0WOvnNxBn/ZAbPEYu11lMOqIiObPWLXDA9GPh9IBPpDbu5 i8qWQMIXJvbMu/T8n7ASpou+MZ3HrhxQwabwg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QODoOXY0g3SSAtuG7d0CF1V7GIY5cPymQxf7A+JGLAJy7UswDVgfnxbdJbWVdJOp7+ 1A/Ibrscq8kR4uzvBUmAbda4TxoLXuyy2x+qjssZYvqYXv3XdJ76cXemRAx2+4D310Dd ivND+Ih3aWG6K457U6rsROXyh3Gk+CbRNAF6w= Received: by 10.204.115.2 with SMTP id g2mr136870bkq.19.1284480690183; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:11:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.99.205 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:11:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jules Gilbert Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:11:10 -0400 Message-ID: To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:11:32 -0000 I'm the guy who started this thread. First, I'm not unhappy with any of you. Each of you, every single person who has, at any time, been a member of the team working on *any* FBSD sub-system, has contributed more than me. I don't criticize you, I salute you, thank you. And stop throwing bricks at each other, we, the users, continue to need your skills and your contributions. Now, I wrote my note for a reason -- which no one seems to have touched on (maybe I missed it, that's certainly possible.) A typical FBSD user wants to be able to do a ports-based install, or perhaps a pkg_add and, presto, out of the box, have a browser. And, here it comes... Wait for it. Without too much trouble, have a running Java, connect to that browser and working. And it doesn't matter if some of us like or don't like Java. It's here and it's staying here. In ten years, and probably in twenty years, it will still be an important part of a typical OS environment. I understand that Sun declined to allow pre-built configurations to be shipped. Okay. Now, (here I am not asking for a public response, nor am I suggesting that anyone email me privately about this,) does anyone have an "in" with Oracle management? Because we need Oracle to reverse their decision in this matter (remember, they inherited Java from Sun, but their management team is slowly buying in to the decisions that Sun made. We want to give the Oracle people good reasons to change their thinking in regards to Java. It may be theoretically possible for a current user to build, say, a Firefox browser with a working Java, but this happens at a time when that new machine is just coming up. One mistake sometimes makes the builder unsure what he needs to change in his environment to try again (boy, is that me!) So, assuming we can't get real change from Oracle, can we at least provide much better install instructions for naive users. Please. (And I am hoping that my notes generate both short-term fixes as well as more permanent policy changes on the part of Oracle.) Now, if Oracle won't adjust their thinking, I intend to look at Java sub-systems that are supplied and built by other people than Oracle. (It's called Open Source.) It would help me if the FreeBSD website provided somewhat better descriptions of the programs offered. Those descriptions are perfect -- if you already know what you're doing. But in this area I am a naive user. For example: Do JDK's (java development kit's,) provide anything for an end-user? Or are they only useful for people building applications? Also: To run Java with a browser, do I need anything more than a client run-time environment? If so, what? Oh, one more thing... I don't do compiler stuff anymore, I did once. And to those of you who want to toss Java, you've got a lot of work to do, not only in terms of overcoming the number of applications but also the design, the people who've worked on it did great work. It's not going away. What will happen is what's already happening, stuff like IceTea is being built. But scrapping Java?, not for at least 25 years, more probably. On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Jules Gilbert wrot= e: > About Java. =A0Using java with freebsd/mozilla or another browser. > > Some questions: > > Is GNU java sufficient? =A0I need to be able to run a browser with Java. > =A0No alternative -- and no I don't want to run windoz. > > I'm trying to do an 8.1 install. > > Does this problem exist with Sun's x86 OS? > > Does anyone have a website or even a set of notes as to the right way > to do this. > > Now an opinion. =A0If Oracle isn't going to help us, we should look > around for an alternative, even inventing something else, something > that isn't Sun/Oracle/Java. > > Because this problem has been getting progressively worse for the past > three or four years or so (longer?,) and, look around, it's hurting > the FreeBSD community. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 16:19:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A54710656C2 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root@mediamonks.net) Received: from mail.mediamonks.net (mail.mediamonks.net [217.195.117.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F8E8FC13 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:19:10 +0000 (UTC) X-CGP-AntiVirus: Scanned and found clean by Sophos X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse reports about this email to abuse@mediamonks.net Received: from [145.99.190.150] (account terrence@mediamonks.com) by mail.mediamonks.net (CommuniGate Pro IMAP 5.3.8) with XMIT id 6311597; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:49:07 +0200 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:49:07 +0200 Organization: MediaMonks B.V. Message-Id: <254c61d2cccd564d8fd93ae56635d6c0@mediamonks.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Thread-Topic: sendmail && resolv.conf changes Priority: Normal Importance: normal X-MSMail-Priority: normal X-Priority: 3 Sensitivity: Normal Thread-Index: ActUJF0gGnd26gQkQYCu9Nt9fBR6ZQ== From: "Terrence Koeman" To: "tomasz dereszynski" , "Matthias Apitz" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-MAPI-LastModified: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:49:07 +0200 X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro MAPI Connector 1.52.53.1/1.53.3.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: RE: sendmail && resolv.conf changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:19:11 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of tomasz dereszynski > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 11:28 AM > To: Matthias Apitz; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: sendmail && resolv.conf changes > > > > El d=EDa Tuesday, September 14, 2010 a las 09:15:49AM +0100, tomasz > > dereszynski escribi=F3: > > > >> > >> > > >> > Hello, > >> > > >> > When using a laptop it is normal that there are some changes in > >> > resolv.conf during the live, for example: > >> > > >> > boot time: no network available > >> > start of PPP over UMTS: resolv.conf from provider > >> > start VPN to connect to company: resolv.conf from company > >> > ... > >> > > >> > it seems that sendmail is not aware of such changes in the > resolv.conf > >> > and always get stuck with the old DNS and ofc does not work on > >> incoming > >> > mails (provided by fetchmail). A restart helps, but is there some > >> better > >> > way to let sendmail switch to the new DNS environment when > resolv.conf > >> > changes? > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > > >> My very wide guess would be that Sendmail starts before system > obtain > >> network settings from DHCP. > > > > Your guess is correct :-) > > > > What I wanted to say: sendmail runs and DHCP changes in certain > > situations the IP, routing and DNS, and sendmail does not adopt on > these > > changes. > > > delay Sendmail start to after network settings loaded from DHCP. > > not sure if there is any 'documentation correct' way of doing that but > 'home crafted' one would be to move /etc/rc.sendmail to > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/blah.sendmail.sh and remove it from rc.config > > hope someone here knows more proper way and can advise. > It might be an idea to (mis)use the "script" option in dhclient.conf to res= tart sendmail (/etc/rc.d/sendmail restart) after a lease has been aquired. = See 'man dhclient.conf'. -- Regards, T. Koeman, MTh/BSc/BPsy; Technical Monk MediaMonks B.V. (www.mediamonks.com) Please quote all replies in correspondence. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 17:08:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1301065674 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:08:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACBF8FC1D for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:08:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy4 with SMTP id 4so3726500ewy.13 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:08:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.4.80 with SMTP id 16mr2994583ebq.57.1284484088938; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.29.69 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:08:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [64.81.163.112] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:08:08 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:08:10 -0000 (Trimming the CC list a bit.) On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Jules Gilbert wro= te: > I understand that Sun declined to allow pre-built configurations to be > shipped. =A0Okay. > > Now, (here I am not asking for a public response, nor am I suggesting > that anyone email me privately about this,) does anyone have an "in" > with Oracle management? If you're holding your breath waiting for Oracle to answer questions, about all you're going to do is turn blue. They have a policy of not communicating about the status of their products. Anyone with an "in" with management would probably be forbidden to talk about it. Take a look at how long they jerked the OpenSolaris folks around before dumping them and ask yourself if you want to volunteer for that kind of treatment. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 17:39:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0D6106566C for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:39:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf15.insightbb.com (mxsf15.insightbb.com [74.128.0.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495118FC1B for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:39:17 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,365,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="171099929" Received: from unknown (HELO asav00.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf15.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 14 Sep 2010 13:39:17 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoQ3AKZPj0xKgCiCPGdsb2JhbACHbYwUjU8MAQEBATUtxhOFQAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,366,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="44614187" Received: from 74-128-40-130.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.128.40.130]) by asavout00.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 14 Sep 2010 13:39:16 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:39:14 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.1; i386; ; ) References: <201009111442.49114.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <20100914003726.GA5762@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20100914003726.GA5762@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009141339.15349.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Cc: Alexander Best Subject: Re: apropos returning same item twice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:39:18 -0000 On Monday 13 September 2010 8:37:26 pm Alexander Best wrote: > On Sat Sep 11 10, Steven Friedrich wrote: > > Why does apropos list mysql(1) twice? > > > > It doesn't return duplicates with apropos kde... > > maybe you have a gzip'ed and plain version in /usr ? > > see PR #4419. > > cheers. > alex > find /usr -name mysql.1\* only returned one hit. /usr/local/man/man1/mysql.1.gz -- System Name: laptop2.StevenFriedrich.org Hardware: 2.80GHz Intel Pentium 4 (HTT) with 2 GB memory OS version: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE i386 (6.9 MB kernel) manager(s): kde4-4.5.1 X windows: xorg-7.5 X.Org X Server 1.7.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 17:52:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB4C1065673 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:52:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from oceanpt.safeport.com (oceanpt.safeport.com [65.122.17.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622C58FC27 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:52:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oceanpt.safeport.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o8EHWe7r093997 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:40 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (oceanpt.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:41 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Subject: unix permissions questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:52:30 -0000 I found several directories whose permissions where set to dr-s--S--T 2 user group 512 Feb 22 2010 .procmail/ All were .procmail which is what we set for procmail logging and supporting recipes. In reading 'man ls' it seems (to me) this might result from losing the execute bit on the directory. Is this correct? Been BSDing since 1995 and have not seen this set of permissions. Thanks for any insights. _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 17:52:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DFE1065675 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D628FC1C for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [109.84.233.145] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de.) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvZgb-0003DB-Kz; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:52:54 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de. (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de. 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(8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o8EHu9Cu001107; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:56:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de.: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:56:09 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Terrence Koeman Message-ID: <20100914175608.GA1060@tiny.Sisis.de> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , Terrence Koeman , tomasz dereszynski , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <254c61d2cccd564d8fd93ae56635d6c0@mediamonks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <254c61d2cccd564d8fd93ae56635d6c0@mediamonks.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 109.84.233.145 Cc: tomasz dereszynski , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: sendmail && resolv.conf changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:52:59 -0000 El día Tuesday, September 14, 2010 a las 05:49:07PM +0200, Terrence Koeman escribió: > > > What I wanted to say: sendmail runs and DHCP changes in certain > > > situations the IP, routing and DNS, and sendmail does not adopt on > > these > > > changes. > > > > > It might be an idea to (mis)use the "script" option in dhclient.conf to restart sendmail (/etc/rc.d/sendmail restart) after a lease has been aquired. See 'man dhclient.conf'. Actually I'm using hooks in devd(8) like: $ cat /usr/local/etc/devd/tun6.conf notify 0 { match "system" "IFNET"; match "subsystem" "tun6"; match "type" "LINK_UP"; action "/usr/local/etc/devd/tun6.sh $subsystem $type"; }; $ cat /usr/local/etc/devd/tun6.sh #!/bin/sh # echo `date`: $0 $* >> /tmp/devd.out ( sleep 30 ; echo Doing: /etc/rc.d/sendmail onerestart >> /tmp/devd.out ; /etc/rc.d/sendmail onerestart ; ) exit 0 for each interface which might come up; but I was thinking that there must be a more general solution in sendmail or DNS itself; in any case, thanks for your idea; > ... > Please quote all replies in correspondence. No. See netiquette RFC: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 18:01:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD53106567A for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:01:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF75C8FC1F for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:01:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-147.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.147]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A651EA5E; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:01:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8EI1GFb003744; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:01:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:01:16 +0200 From: Polytropon To: doug@safeport.com Message-Id: <20100914200116.23a34732.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unix permissions questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:01:20 -0000 On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:40 -0400 (EDT), doug@safeport.com wrote: > I found several directories whose permissions where set to > > dr-s--S--T 2 user group 512 Feb 22 2010 .procmail/ > > All were .procmail which is what we set for procmail logging and supporting > recipes. In reading 'man ls' it seems (to me) this might result from losing the > execute bit on the directory. Is this correct? Been BSDing since 1995 and have > not seen this set of permissions. Thanks for any insights. After a short read of "man ls": "s" in the owner permissions = file is executable and set-user-ID mode is set "S" in the group permissions = file is not executable and set-group-ID mode is set "T" in the other permission = sticky bit is set, but not execute or search permission. Result: User can execute SUID, group cannot execute, others cannot search or execute; sticky bit is set. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 18:05:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D0D106566C for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:05:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout027.mac.com (asmtpout027.mac.com [17.148.16.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9CD58FC08 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:05:04 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp027.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L8R006B60WAS990@asmtp027.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 11:04:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1009140082 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-09-14_12:2010-09-14, 2010-09-13, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <20100914200116.23a34732.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 11:04:58 -0700 Message-id: References: <20100914200116.23a34732.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Polytropon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: doug@safeport.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unix permissions questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:05:05 -0000 On Sep 14, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:40 -0400 (EDT), doug@safeport.com wrote: >> I found several directories whose permissions where set to >> >> dr-s--S--T 2 user group 512 Feb 22 2010 .procmail/ >> >> All were .procmail which is what we set for procmail logging and supporting >> recipes. In reading 'man ls' it seems (to me) this might result from losing the >> execute bit on the directory. Is this correct? Been BSDing since 1995 and have >> not seen this set of permissions. Thanks for any insights. > > After a short read of "man ls": [ ... ] > Result: User can execute SUID, group cannot execute, others cannot search > or execute; sticky bit is set. Except that this is a directory, not a file.... :-) A bit of experimentation suggests that "chmod 7500 .procmail" are the permissions involved, which are silly. No group permissions enabled means setgid is meaningless, and I don't see any value for using the sticky bit here, either. Try using 0500, 0700, or maybe 4500/4700 instead. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 18:13:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19CA1065789 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:13:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from oceanpt.safeport.com (oceanpt.safeport.com [65.122.17.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC9F8FC08 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:13:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oceanpt.safeport.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o8EIDOmG095460; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:13:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:13:23 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20100914200116.23a34732.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20100914200116.23a34732.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (oceanpt.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unix permissions questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:13:27 -0000 On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:40 -0400 (EDT), doug@safeport.com wrote: >> I found several directories whose permissions where set to >> >> dr-s--S--T 2 user group 512 Feb 22 2010 .procmail/ >> >> All were .procmail which is what we set for procmail logging and supporting >> recipes. In reading 'man ls' it seems (to me) this might result from losing the >> execute bit on the directory. Is this correct? Been BSDing since 1995 and have >> not seen this set of permissions. Thanks for any insights. > > After a short read of "man ls": > > "s" in the owner permissions = file is executable and set-user-ID mode is set > > "S" in the group permissions = file is not executable and set-group-ID mode is set > > "T" in the other permission = sticky bit is set, but not execute > or search permission. > > Result: User can execute SUID, group cannot execute, others cannot search > or execute; sticky bit is set. > Thanks, I got that from the man page. My question, not stated very well, was can a non-root user set those permissions. If so, I obviously do not know how. _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 18:16:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0DF91065670 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:16:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from oceanpt.safeport.com (oceanpt.safeport.com [65.122.17.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7288FC15 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:16:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oceanpt.safeport.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o8EIGJ0u095615; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:16:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:16:19 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com To: Chuck Swiger In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20100914200116.23a34732.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (oceanpt.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:16:19 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unix permissions questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:16:22 -0000 On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Sep 14, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Polytropon wrote: >> On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:40 -0400 (EDT), doug@safeport.com wrote: >>> I found several directories whose permissions where set to >>> >>> dr-s--S--T 2 user group 512 Feb 22 2010 .procmail/ >>> >>> All were .procmail which is what we set for procmail logging and supporting >>> recipes. In reading 'man ls' it seems (to me) this might result from losing the >>> execute bit on the directory. Is this correct? Been BSDing since 1995 and have >>> not seen this set of permissions. Thanks for any insights. >> >> After a short read of "man ls": > [ ... ] >> Result: User can execute SUID, group cannot execute, others cannot search >> or execute; sticky bit is set. > > Except that this is a directory, not a file.... :-) > > A bit of experimentation suggests that "chmod 7500 .procmail" are the permissions involved, which are silly. No group permissions enabled means setgid is meaningless, and I don't see any value for using the sticky bit here, either. Try using 0500, 0700, or maybe 4500/4700 instead. thanks all - the context of this: the users involved do not know what the chmod command is much less its syntax and I did not do this. What I was going for was could this be a procmail bug or perhaps something more alarming (to me as a sysadmin). _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 18:17:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DE9106566C for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:17:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327458FC13 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:17:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-147.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.147]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3881C1ED33; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:17:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8EIHbKL003795; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:17:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:17:36 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chuck Swiger Message-Id: <20100914201736.9519471e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20100914200116.23a34732.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unix permissions questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:17:39 -0000 On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 11:04:58 -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Sep 14, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Polytropon wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:40 -0400 (EDT), doug@safeport.com wrote: > >> I found several directories whose permissions where set to > >> > >> dr-s--S--T 2 user group 512 Feb 22 2010 .procmail/ > >> > >> All were .procmail which is what we set for procmail logging and supporting > >> recipes. In reading 'man ls' it seems (to me) this might result from losing the > >> execute bit on the directory. Is this correct? Been BSDing since 1995 and have > >> not seen this set of permissions. Thanks for any insights. > > > > After a short read of "man ls": > [ ... ] > > Result: User can execute SUID, group cannot execute, others cannot search > > or execute; sticky bit is set. > > Except that this is a directory, not a file.... :-) Thanks, I forgot to include that in my summary. :-) In this case, I wanted to say that the user can chdir / search that directory. > A bit of experimentation suggests that "chmod 7500 .procmail" are the > permissions involved, which are silly. No group permissions enabled > means setgid is meaningless, and I don't see any value for using the > sticky bit here, either. Try using 0500, 0700, or maybe 4500/4700 instead. I would think that's what the permissions should be - it roughly is equivalent to what a file with a similar purpose would look like for a (user's) private .procmail/ directory. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 18:22:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CF8106566C for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:22:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout023.mac.com (asmtpout023.mac.com [17.148.16.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2631D8FC0A for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:22:54 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp023.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L8R00B3T1Q15G10@asmtp023.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 11:22:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1009140086 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-09-14_12:2010-09-14, 2010-09-13, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 11:22:49 -0700 Message-id: <270B9E77-D1B2-43AC-98EC-EEC9F8CE840A@mac.com> References: <20100914200116.23a34732.freebsd@edvax.de> To: doug@safeport.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unix permissions questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:22:55 -0000 On Sep 14, 2010, at 11:16 AM, doug@safeport.com wrote: >> A bit of experimentation suggests that "chmod 7500 .procmail" are the permissions involved, which are silly. No group permissions enabled means setgid is meaningless, and I don't see any value for using the sticky bit here, either. Try using 0500, 0700, or maybe 4500/4700 instead. > > thanks all - the context of this: the users involved do not know what the chmod command is much less its syntax and I did not do this. What I was going for was could this be a procmail bug or perhaps something more alarming (to me as a sysadmin). The permissions here are unexpected. procmail cares about clearing group and other permissions-- unless GROUP_PER_USER is set (cf http://partmaps.org/era/procmail/mini-faq.html#group-writable), which usually would be appropriate for FreeBSD since it encourages all userids to also have a corresponding groupid. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 18:32:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2377106566B for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:32:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [213.184.43.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E2D8FC1D for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:32:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF74739825 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:15:17 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at post.raad.tartu.ee Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id AZryb7PpRRJ2 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:15:17 +0300 (EEST) Received: by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix, from userid 80) id CC75D39872; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:15:16 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 84-50-143-208-dsl.rkv.estpak.ee (84-50-143-208-dsl.rkv.estpak.ee [84.50.143.208]) by webmail.raad.tartu.ee (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:15:16 +0300 Message-ID: <20100914211516.92195onu24td4z4s@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:15:16 +0300 From: Toomas Aas To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.7) X-Originating-IP: 84.50.143.208 Cc: Subject: Is it safe to run gjournal on aac-based system (BIO_FLUSH)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:32:44 -0000 Hello! I'm planning to install FreeBSD 8.1 on a system which has Adaptec 4805SAS RAID controller (using aac driver). I'd like to use gjournal for the data partition, but I have some doubts regarding the (lack of) BIO_FLUSH feature. I have another system with FreeBSD 7.3 and a different aac-based controller where I've been using gjournal for 3 years. Every time the system boots, it prints this warning: GEOM_JOURNAL: BIO_FLUSH not supported by aacd1s2. I understand that lack of BIO_FLUSH support means that data cannot be safely flushed to disk and that might cause corruption in case of sudden power loss. Is that correct? Anyway, since this system has battery-backed write cache, I'm not too worried. But on the system where I'm about to install now, the controller doesn't have a battery for its cache. Hence my question - does the aac driver on FreeBSD 8.1 still not support BIO_FLUSH? If so, I should probably avoid using gmirror on this system? -- Toomas Aas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 19:57:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1233) id 0BEDA1065673; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:57:35 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:57:35 +0000 From: Alexander Best To: Steven Friedrich Message-ID: <20100914195735.GA75221@freebsd.org> References: <201009111442.49114.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <20100914003726.GA5762@freebsd.org> <201009141339.15349.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201009141339.15349.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apropos returning same item twice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:57:35 -0000 On Tue Sep 14 10, Steven Friedrich wrote: > On Monday 13 September 2010 8:37:26 pm Alexander Best wrote: > > On Sat Sep 11 10, Steven Friedrich wrote: > > > Why does apropos list mysql(1) twice? > > > > > > It doesn't return duplicates with apropos kde... > > > > maybe you have a gzip'ed and plain version in /usr ? > > > > see PR #4419. > > > > cheers. > > alex > > > > > > find /usr -name mysql.1\* only returned one hit. > /usr/local/man/man1/mysql.1.gz hmmm...dunno then. might be a bug? maybe you could check out this thread [1]. man, apropos, manpath and whatis will soon be replaced by a BSD variant. if you want to try it out be sure to get the latest release (the .shar file). if you still experience the same problem with it you might want to write gordon about it. cheers. alex [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-current@freebsd.org/msg124238.html > -- > System Name: laptop2.StevenFriedrich.org > Hardware: 2.80GHz Intel Pentium 4 (HTT) with 2 GB memory > OS version: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE i386 (6.9 MB kernel) > manager(s): kde4-4.5.1 > X windows: xorg-7.5 X.Org X Server 1.7.5 -- a13x From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 20:24:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00AF1065672 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:24:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1488FC1D for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb18 with SMTP id 18so136413wwb.31 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:24:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TDHY/9BJTlXeF0x6yh5NIHd3ZmZ4kHMUrwjS2hjQ2Ao=; b=K+6lTMJQ2ieEvf9C5sn4KcYEuIhi/k1bXzclrXxtRF8ogGTA4KGl5P27yyy/2B/24v nqZX9BQVB8eEwWOu8zbFoWH9zxokL+OA3ET31qMeN/PQoKNv2gxe8rRZizU632iLlkiQ qsW76WeQzEBjYb8LHrdXc90t5R+wo/RqrLK8E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dp6fvZjGaYQxFIYK2TV0yylQd5CFR/RWafws8LUmH0OZJh5pd5DofiOokSnYiyQ0dD 7xo6qLz7qPxFMqNUcKT1Ad4erDRVhfilDv8URiC8IDKQC60mHPnZ/PG7uk0db9VaFxw5 nrROx3yJoNOXa/UqwzzAU29ohfQ+pwv7j7/i4= Received: by 10.216.11.66 with SMTP id 44mr366531wew.69.1284495890569; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o15sm439921wer.15.2010.09.14.13.24.43 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:24:32 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100914212432.2a64d5b3@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:24:52 -0000 On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:11:10 -0400 Jules Gilbert wrote: > A typical FBSD user wants to be able to do a ports-based install, or > perhaps a pkg_add and, presto, out of the box, have a browser. > > And, here it comes... Wait for it. > > Without too much trouble, have a running Java, connect to that browser > and working. And it doesn't matter if some of us like or don't like > Java. It's here and it's staying here. In ten years, and probably in > twenty years, it will still be an important part of a typical OS > environment. > > I understand that Sun declined to allow pre-built configurations to be > shipped. Okay. Personally, I haven't used java for a long time (or even noticed its absence - unlike flash), so I 'm a bit behind the times. What's the is the problem? If they are stopping pre-built packages then that presumably just means the end of the diablo ports. Before those port existed I don't recall the plug-in situation as being any worse than slightly irritating. Is there more to it than that? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 21:21:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD521065675; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:21:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:3080::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917B78FC19; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:21:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 543FA3CCE; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:21:13 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Jules Gilbert References: x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.12.11; tzolkin = 7 Chuen; haab = 4 Chen Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:21:13 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Jules Gilbert's message of "Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:11:10 -0400") Message-ID: <86zkvk2f92.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:21:13 -0000 >>>>> "Jules" == Jules Gilbert writes: Jules> Now, if Oracle won't adjust their thinking, I intend to look at Java Jules> sub-systems that are supplied and built by other people than Oracle. Jules> (It's called Open Source.) And that's what I tried to say in my last few posts. Given Oracle's apparent stance to own Java not by copyright but by patent, it doesn't *matter* that Java is "open source". We'll have to wait until Oracle v. Google is decided, but unless Google can invalidate Oracle's *patents* on Java, Java is effectively dead, unless you want to sleep in Oracle's bed. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 22:11:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97AAE1065670 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 22:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0608FC26 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 22:11:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-101-5.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.101.5] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvdZj-0000Eg-By for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:02:04 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:11:05 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:11:05 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100914221105.GA2760@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86zkvk2f92.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DocE+STaALJfprDB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86zkvk2f92.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 22:11:11 -0000 --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Randal L. Schwartz on Tuesday, 14 September 2010: > >>>>> "Jules" =3D=3D Jules Gilbert writes: >=20 > Jules> Now, if Oracle won't adjust their thinking, I intend to look at Ja= va > Jules> sub-systems that are supplied and built by other people than Oracl= e. > Jules> (It's called Open Source.) >=20 > And that's what I tried to say in my last few posts. Given Oracle's > apparent stance to own Java not by copyright but by patent, it doesn't > *matter* that Java is "open source". We'll have to wait until Oracle > v. Google is decided, but unless Google can invalidate Oracle's > *patents* on Java, Java is effectively dead, unless you want to sleep in > Oracle's bed. >=20 =2E.. and Oracle makes for a large bedfellow, with a reputation for a painful embrace. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMj/L5AAoJEIpckszW26+RDboIAJdIIk90WuQgv34fcQsq/zO+ B/Rb+ldeskVO+dVwjkWsEJ9tPi+/L4keEYloeZtVYJrKawXRyqHLDwXLQ3eph2V3 QaGyq/0K1dH9rCijgCYx7n74YXYCxAtfYkXmfdYh3DZrtt1zsOSJv6Y+JeOGuPbA 2s+DSgqZdAC/VVfJVZpk5mAttLDh80dva4GB3WjqcCUdNUFbPMEQ3+0MvIuMOQDb LBgItkYrwkoIHXrUiDsxQIkxNrrlCoUGwDhQruhq7uqpd/WCRWu6+wkxnnfZoMnJ zNy42dbIjEcaRgleztG4PRuqza9a0/8F6TmQHvtrWeY3aQK6aOp4P+yuWNHAgvE= =d0pU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DocE+STaALJfprDB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 02:36:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13A6106564A for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 02:36:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnewman@networktest.com) Received: from mail3.networktest.com (mail3.networktest.com [69.55.234.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8354B8FC18 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 02:36:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [69.55.234.104]) by mail3.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10A511F8FF for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3.networktest.com ([69.55.234.104]) by localhost (mail3.networktest.com [69.55.234.104]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04635-09 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sagan.local (cpe-76-83-7-25.socal.res.rr.com [76.83.7.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dnewman@networktest.com) by mail3.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 36B0511F8CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C902D28.2040206@networktest.com> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:19:20 -0700 From: David Newman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: jumbo frame support in bge(4) for BCM5704 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 02:36:21 -0000 8.0-RELEASE amd64, Tyan S2882-D motherboard, Broadcom BCM5704C gigabit Ethernet transceivers Looking for clues on enabling jumbo support on BCM5704 chips. The bge(4) manpage claims this interface supports jumbo frames, as does Broadcom's data sheet. However, 'ifconfig bge0 mtu 9000' returns an error, as does 'ifconfig bge0 mtu 1500': ifconfig: ioctl (set mtu): Invalid argument Also, this thread claims the manpage anddata sheet are in error and that jumbos aren't supported: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2006-June/010866.html The Linux tg3 driver for this chip does support jumbos up to 9000 bytes but that doesn't necessarily answer whether the hardware can get there. Thanks in advance for any clues on enabling jumbos on this system. dn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 02:43:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920421065670 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 02:43:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com (mail-bw0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FECC8FC0C for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 02:43:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so182431bwz.17 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:43:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=7W1JmFzjS/TNK89qbJkscam2sUCOdZa/NZzaTUm/4Gg=; b=d6tnJ7tqdqsWKx4EKElio3pGFgQPIfYzzI4dyBKrx7YSvJQBZJTSuBI9RYOnZJVRur ECvebHvAtoK/S8k2oUiiWV4WoruL/nw6ImbI0yyp/iQ7GY+3BxVqk9arIABrfmAxvWtx D4FUJKAAt62PFLFIlBnIJdorxftglGouG3REc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=pKqt7HvxfBn3KNhXvDwz7YMy+DJiYTciOwhlDEHSS5L87OgUySX/JvovA0EgIjLZLU n8CKfwhHd1noGlXoGS0G7nuvPN9Ln1ok/6j2tuceHI8lovN7OzsV/SzfKaCfTVXnoP5/ Fn4jsUvMxxhuj17o4n+euzPOrxJ8gUWgv5Kkk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.126.4 with SMTP id a4mr194832fas.91.1284518610820; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.57.20 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:43:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C902D28.2040206@networktest.com> References: <4C902D28.2040206@networktest.com> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:43:30 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: David Newman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jumbo frame support in bge(4) for BCM5704 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 02:43:32 -0000 On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:19 PM, David Newman wrote: > 8.0-RELEASE amd64, Tyan S2882-D motherboard, Broadcom BCM5704C gigabit > Ethernet transceivers > > Thanks in advance for any clues on enabling jumbos on this system. > What happens if you boot from a linux live cd and try to enable frames there? -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 06:42:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF98F1065672 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:42:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EBF8FC13 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:42:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lenovo.syrec.org ([194.158.199.205]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8F6frjD035460 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 23:42:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4C906AB2.3030004@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:41:54 +0300 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100723 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How to prevent system to launch interactive fsck after improper shutdown and reboot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:42:01 -0000 Almost every time after improper shutdown (poweroff) and reboot I get into interactive fsck. I am being asked whole bunch of questions to which I just have to answer Y (what are my other options?) Why drop user into interactive fsck if there is not much choice anyways? Is there a way to set it up the way it doesn't drop into interactive mode? Like answer 'Y' to all questions? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 06:47:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 238B21065670 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:47:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from mailgate.jr-hosting.nl (mailgate.jr-hosting.nl [IPv6:2a01:4f8:63:1281::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06348FC14 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:47:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from websrv01.jr-hosting.nl (mailrelay.jr-hosting.nl [IPv6:2a01:4f8:63:1281::4]) by mailgate.jr-hosting.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CE0D1CC63; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:47:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from www by websrv01.jr-hosting.nl with local (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OvlmM-00054c-5x; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:47:38 +0200 Received: from 2a01:4f8:120:6000::2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user remko@evilcoder.org) by www.jr-hosting.nl with HTTP; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:47:38 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4C906AB2.3030004@rawbw.com> References: <4C906AB2.3030004@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:47:38 +0200 From: "Remko Lodder" To: yuri@rawbw.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to prevent system to launch interactive fsck after improper shutdown and reboot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:47:40 -0000 >> Almost every time after improper shutdown (poweroff) and reboot I get >> into interactive fsck. >> >> I am being asked whole bunch of questions to which I just have to answer >> Y (what are my other options?) >> >> Why drop user into interactive fsck if there is not much choice anyways? >> Is there a way to set it up the way it doesn't drop into interactive >> mode? Like answer 'Y' to all questions? >> >> Yuri I think this might do your trick: fsck_y_enable="NO" # Set to YES to do fsck -y if the initial preen fails. fsck_y_flags="" # Additional flags for fsck -y The reason for this to get interactively is because this might messup with your filesystem, and you are the one responsible for your filesystem, not us or the autmated system. So in case you want to "play" with that, that's entirely up to you. In addition, I can imagine that companies (been there done it) do not want to fsck -y by default, this because of the mentioned potential corruption and dataloss. Thanks remko p.s. This was found within 5 seconds in /etc/defaults/rc.conf. -- /"\ Best regards, | remko@FreeBSD.org \ / Remko Lodder | remko@EFnet X http://www.evilcoder.org/ | / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 06:53:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB4C1065673 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:53:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3145E8FC15 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:53:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so7805031iwn.13 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 23:53:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MD+YMlbuauBjXQRiLLyHSyIJpjCHGmnnC6xl6xZThMg=; b=XWpqZCmB8LGXPVnXjQWjFVM/LukqZBXxuFGiW1hXIuvRX9LypT+FCM7GAeAYW3G6Xn annqA5HzYKB/PEiIUfetuHq6MCKN9VhcOjN7D7TvnHcLt0GW8lVH1qyjzp7bNCg7KFmO DjWwT3lEgy/d9/lWragv2qGi9mkJuPmLWnZDM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=L9oTOYiddDR2dQhKHmck14tqq8qcdjh1kS9EEr/98M6iNnehGEpWfxU7RDHga2Pxwr krkOPkpmTKfFyPWNv01Q/CzEKpOm41hUvxehQGtGt5Km4OE4oU3nczxM3cfvmKrQosVt lLnI3EtfWFVviUPxg5lCBOZe8gJlh3Nvndtlg= Received: by 10.231.145.16 with SMTP id b16mr1087183ibv.198.1284533581074; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 23:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (c-24-14-170-47.hsd1.il.comcast.net [24.14.170.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h8sm956907ibk.15.2010.09.14.23.52.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 14 Sep 2010 23:52:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C906D49.5090500@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 01:52:57 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86zkvk2f92.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86zkvk2f92.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:53:02 -0000 On 9/14/2010 4:21 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Jules" == Jules Gilbert writes: > > Jules> Now, if Oracle won't adjust their thinking, I intend to look at Java > Jules> sub-systems that are supplied and built by other people than Oracle. > Jules> (It's called Open Source.) > > And that's what I tried to say in my last few posts. Given Oracle's > apparent stance to own Java not by copyright but by patent, it doesn't > *matter* that Java is "open source". We'll have to wait until Oracle > v. Google is decided, but unless Google can invalidate Oracle's > *patents* on Java, Java is effectively dead, unless you want to sleep in > Oracle's bed. > Google sort of shot themselves in the foot since it's like java enough that everyone not a lawyer can call it java, except it needs recompiled, and that Google ignored the patent grant by Sun since they made it a subset. There's also the issue that Google's not paying licensing fees to say it's Java capable. Google was intentionally weaseling out of a potential problem. Sun being bought got Google in trouble. Sun's patent grant could have protected Google, but Google refused it. As to the original post, Java, a "portable" "write once run anywhere" language, doesn't work on FreeBSD, a "standard" type operating system that mainly runs on "standard" hardware, when used with Xorg, a widely used "standard," as a plug in for Firefox, a major and presumably the dominant *nix web browser. Maybe the question should go to Oracle about why it doesn't work. A java applet probably works on your Symbian smart phone running on ARM. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 06:53:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4076F10656C2 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:53:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F109F8FC14 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:53:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ovlru-0004fK-6R for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:53:22 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8F6rT10002322 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:53:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o8F6rTQi002321 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:53:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:53:29 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100915065329.GA2258@current.Sisis.de> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C906AB2.3030004@rawbw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4C906AB2.3030004@rawbw.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Subject: Re: How to prevent system to launch interactive fsck after improper shutdown and reboot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:53:25 -0000 El día Wednesday, September 15, 2010 a las 09:41:54AM +0300, Yuri escribió: > Almost every time after improper shutdown (poweroff) and reboot I get > into interactive fsck. > > I am being asked whole bunch of questions to which I just have to answer > Y (what are my other options?) > > Why drop user into interactive fsck if there is not much choice anyways? > Is there a way to set it up the way it doesn't drop into interactive > mode? Like answer 'Y' to all questions? Yes, just do: $ echo 16i[q]sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx]sbA0D4D465452snlb xq | dc $ man rc.conf | col -b | fgrep fsck_ In general one should avoid unclean shutdowns. I even after such event go into single user mode and run fsck(8) by hand. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 06:59:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38121065673 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7DD8FC18 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.136] (helo=smtp5.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvlxX-00032B-20 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:59:11 +0200 Received: from 54193b12.cm-5-2a.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([84.25.59.18] helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp5.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvlxW-0001pd-HX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:59:10 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9AB139857 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:59:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C906EBB.2090005@boosten.org> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:59:07 +0200 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C906AB2.3030004@rawbw.com> <20100915065329.GA2258@current.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20100915065329.GA2258@current.Sisis.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1OvlxW-0001pd-HX X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.1, vereist 5, BAYES_00 -2.60, CM_META_TB_NOARR 0.50, SPF_PASS -0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: How to prevent system to launch interactive fsck after improper shutdown and reboot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:59:12 -0000 On 15-9-2010 8:53, Matthias Apitz wrote: > echo 16i[q]sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx]sbA0D4D465452snlb xq | dc LOL, only worked with quotes, btw ;-) Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 07:03:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C68106567A for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89858FC17 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz15 with SMTP id 15so300993bwz.13 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:03:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=xAR1iqCxLmSm38cR6xDVur2yVX8S1cafMWkXildOd9g=; b=NeJE5zpIPIKoAjPg0LE3FsYtSGFYPeqHNOgjfgkB3HhkpRwUh58j1xt66igT8mCNvj /JMDqmNTYzCsjibUuKDbINOKAGHr/+JBqriPrP5mIBM18VqFBKT20Yj8ydZVpVib/HvB 05hKU3AsrX+RwLMW0wLVMlASlI/pXg8gDAbXM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=oe7waMWdgzEKJueFyBX61Z2LPHpYh4Wz1REw5G4hbwXHfynjNvPvh3+YsSEvzpboNd iqkKy9pwyrgvMBkpN3Dqs7tqHBXmqCbKOI/20y7HW/fPe+3xj5pm3NCFBpaagKJf72wy KIJCrADxK1OyoMBzxS4QmBd2F8gRA3Zn3o+y0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.115.143 with SMTP id i15mr271115faq.80.1284534213673; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.57.20 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:03:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C906EBB.2090005@boosten.org> References: <4C906AB2.3030004@rawbw.com> <20100915065329.GA2258@current.Sisis.de> <4C906EBB.2090005@boosten.org> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 02:03:33 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Peter Boosten Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to prevent system to launch interactive fsck after improper shutdown and reboot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:03:35 -0000 On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Peter Boosten wrote: > On 15-9-2010 8:53, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > echo 16i[q]sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx]sbA0D4D465452snlb xq | dc > > LOL, only worked with quotes, btw ;-) > Depends on the shell, I guess he's a bash user. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 07:07:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA8D1065672 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE048FC25 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:07:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ovm5M-0006mC-AZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:07:17 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8F77NMt002445 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:07:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o8F77NDk002444 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:07:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:07:23 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100915070722.GA2415@current.Sisis.de> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C906AB2.3030004@rawbw.com> <20100915065329.GA2258@current.Sisis.de> <4C906EBB.2090005@boosten.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4C906EBB.2090005@boosten.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Subject: Re: How to prevent system to launch interactive fsck after improper shutdown and reboot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:07:18 -0000 El día Wednesday, September 15, 2010 a las 08:59:07AM +0200, Peter Boosten escribió: > On 15-9-2010 8:53, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > echo 16i[q]sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx]sbA0D4D465452snlb xq | dc > > LOL, only worked with quotes, btw ;-) no, $ sh $ echo 16i[q]sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx]sbA0D4D465452snlb xq | dc RTFM $ bash guru@current:/usr/home/guru> echo 16i[q]sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx]sbA0D4D465452snlb xq | dc RTFM which shell you used? matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 07:11:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E752C1065679 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74ACA8FC20 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:11:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz15 with SMTP id 15so305830bwz.13 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:11:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=A42NqLKvVq5Y1DL+ROUMIAd+OoHFhIDxUkpmj5haGH0=; b=MWq2M6ZtPveX1arCsQZNTCWJ/Ww1ZCvrnZ87BlMVZD3mP/RRiEELhA1Ow4NQ9fpRgD czQKXq55YgDz2nIM2BPCEGG+WLorzHHkF2t9GS0N/AfeqwZaT6TB+VYMSXV84nFkXwpL pyosECnBfhBVBw/GHUHC2WQrlaZuoQtM/IneY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WKzMLUM12mBHWHUT5jSrVflMHGZPD3NmPQY3x2YAJSz5lnBde41sKsAoO0/EzQoXwi VL0f6pII09Xu9DjzB3WvlclENZcaxoJy/0nWLPt0B2xVAMX828KSeplKZfBzTyCoTqDs c92X2BhZsIWpEQSs3Ia3gbNEH4G3J1Gw0JhXY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.104.199 with SMTP id q7mr346100fao.6.1284534702811; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:11:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.57.20 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:11:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100915070722.GA2415@current.Sisis.de> References: <4C906AB2.3030004@rawbw.com> <20100915065329.GA2258@current.Sisis.de> <4C906EBB.2090005@boosten.org> <20100915070722.GA2415@current.Sisis.de> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 02:11:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: How to prevent system to launch interactive fsck after improper shutdown and reboot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:11:45 -0000 On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Wednesday, September 15, 2010 a las 08:59:07AM +0200, Peter Boos= ten > escribi=F3: > > > On 15-9-2010 8:53, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > echo 16i[q]sa[ln0=3Daln100%Pln100/snlbx]sbA0D4D465452snlb xq | dc > > > > LOL, only worked with quotes, btw ;-) > > no, > > $ sh > $ echo 16i[q]sa[ln0=3Daln100%Pln100/snlbx]sbA0D4D465452snlb xq | dc > RTFM > $ bash > guru@current:/usr/home/guru> echo > 16i[q]sa[ln0=3Daln100%Pln100/snlbx]sbA0D4D465452snlb xq | dc > RTFM > > which shell you used? > it doesn't work in zsh, csh, tcsh, I didn't try sh, it didn't even occur to me since I so rarely use it as an interactive shell. --=20 Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 07:15:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD7E106566C for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:15:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192798FC13 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:15:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.133] (helo=smtp2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvmD9-00061T-Qt for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:15:19 +0200 Received: from 54193b12.cm-5-2a.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([84.25.59.18] helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvmD8-0005ot-6L for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:15:18 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0334839857 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:15:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C907284.9010009@boosten.org> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:15:16 +0200 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C906AB2.3030004@rawbw.com> <20100915065329.GA2258@current.Sisis.de> <4C906EBB.2090005@boosten.org> <20100915070722.GA2415@current.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20100915070722.GA2415@current.Sisis.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1OvmD8-0005ot-6L X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.1, vereist 5, BAYES_00 -2.60, CM_META_TB_NOARR 0.50, SPF_PASS -0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: How to prevent system to launch interactive fsck after improper shutdown and reboot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:15:21 -0000 On 15-9-2010 9:07, Matthias Apitz wrote: > $ sh > $ echo 16i[q]sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx]sbA0D4D465452snlb xq | dc > RTFM > $ bash > guru@current:/usr/home/guru> echo 16i[q]sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx]sbA0D4D465452snlb xq | dc > RTFM > > which shell you used? zsh. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 08:03:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555B7106564A for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:03:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antoniok.spb@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1168F8FC23 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:03:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so7520536vws.13 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 01:03:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=SWC76t8GgBOLQMy4fN6Gup9X8INmh0wCU8/dq8TK0HE=; b=eCNyzxqsiKvLbb29cDH4FS//ZsoiAW1b13D4VbK5xwogxNab0HwFS6z68yiSPoptf7 ufr3PQ4ztpLtFR5zV2K22ZnMFkcBurHnA3wz6N02mqpNaxEulI7UldxEERu4YSFcwcSU SkZ4DzA3ICrnMo2c8IqEAPya07a3lg8Daj80E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=dFMJHSzdKDV8anO+lty8/jWiJ/+4ZFa5RO0W4peiTSdE7GoDlR4ouXHP5m3Yzu98+4 0NkV/QJH+ERIVcjDoetWVvtokSM8RU7D+4UV+x1lt/M5RnPhTncLHNs9PTGDutns1B8j mHe1H4f9nLOql0Ytq0sH7/T9kgGfBaPEXuqec= Received: by 10.220.121.142 with SMTP id h14mr600661vcr.248.1284537799297; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 01:03:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.178.74 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 01:02:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Antonio Kless Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:02:59 +0400 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: how to re-read /etc/newsyslog.conf ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:03:23 -0000 I have changed my /etc/newsyslog.conf by adding some new lines. How to make FreeBSD re-read it? # /etc/rc.d/newsyslog status newsyslog is not running. Is it OK? -- Best regards, Antonio Kless, http://kless.spb.ru/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 08:18:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F32D1065674; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:18:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mostafafaridi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B6C8FC1F; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:18:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb18 with SMTP id 18so751701wwb.31 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 01:18:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type; bh=s+QX6GiD8y3i2JvCYDOTwSh9Fl6V0n4y9kjlLucFoqU=; b=IVze9yer2hfhcxkjhvw0Cpwgyc4CeK5d47uAX/LSr8HH3oMOYLg7QcusdderOCDMBt 31kAJTDlAIf4yp5sMgbQEYy9IZC/bNgiCQ0ym4gTqWpGX6NF3dbjTznzxLc+IEuo09/r 1E7tSXrMB8RvFmEy3chRd8fFCphK+3qpR5A+A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type; b=SyomB7hYfSxJccK5e7ox+PIYa/WqOaqqjwqhdjeGpGIX8BJusRK52+O1L7T1auUAEy MTUQnYGJnqzTGIYBWpMFcFMUlAPNQhhBmyb/8GZkpwBdTPf/iwGH1VGyn16BI6Uj86Qz Cgh/NFTPNuH/iYegHF0eCUeKAIoFrlqFnDFE4= Received: by 10.216.17.194 with SMTP id j44mr913894wej.68.1284536862270; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mfaridipc.faridi ([80.191.91.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n17sm757331weq.6.2010.09.15.00.47.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C907918.7090609@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:13:20 +0430 From: Gholam Mostafa Faridi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100908 Thunderbird/3.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: virtaullBox AMD64 32bit lib X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:18:19 -0000 I want install virtualBox on AMD 64 and I use FreeBSD 8.1 and I have SRC directory , but when I run make install clean I see this error " Requires 32-bit libraries installed under /usr/lib32. Do: cd /usr/src; make build32 install32; ldconfig -v -m -R /usr/lib32 " and I run this command "cd /usr/src; make build32 install32; ldconfig -v -m -R /usr/lib32" and after minutes I see this error "===> gnu/lib/csu (obj,depend,all,install) sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -o root -g wheel -m 444 crtbegin.o /usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32/crtbegin.o sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -o root -g wheel -m 444 crtend.o /usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32/crtend.o sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -o root -g wheel -m 444 crtbeginT.o /usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32/crtbeginT.o sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -o root -g wheel -m 444 crtbegin.So /usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32/crtbeginS.o sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -o root -g wheel -m 444 crtend.So /usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32/crtendS.o ===> lib/csu/i386-elf (obj,depend,all,install) ld -m elf_i386_fbsd -Y P,/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32 -o gcrt1.o -r crt1_s.o gcrt1_c.o ld: Relocatable linking with relocations from format elf64-x86-64 (gcrt1_c.o) to format elf32-i386-freebsd (gcrt1.o) is not supported *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib32: No such file or directory " I make post about this error in freebsdforums but they can not help me please see link http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=17607 they said problem is ccache and I disable and remove ccache ,but still I have that probelm please help me From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 08:42:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808D6106564A for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:42:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15358FC08 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from russet.local (reflex.squiz.co.uk [83.217.109.164]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8F8gKQd026172 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:42:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host reflex.squiz.co.uk [83.217.109.164] claimed to be russet.local Message-ID: <4C9086E4.9040707@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:42:12 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antonio Kless References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig86E0C0A9808BB9C1727B3A98" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: how to re-read /etc/newsyslog.conf ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:42:32 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig86E0C0A9808BB9C1727B3A98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15/09/2010 09:02, Antonio Kless wrote: > I have changed my /etc/newsyslog.conf by adding some new lines. How to = make > FreeBSD re-read it? >=20 > # /etc/rc.d/newsyslog status > newsyslog is not running. >=20 > Is it OK? newsyslog is a cron job that gets run every hour. There's nothing to restart. Changes to newsyslog.conf will be picked up the next time it runs. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig86E0C0A9808BB9C1727B3A98 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyQhuoACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxiSQCfaKYS50gE74cznfR3rVv+h568 UPIAnjXO0cLeVJ+M1Ci5efQKDHfzWUOf =H2lo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig86E0C0A9808BB9C1727B3A98-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 09:11:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D73106566C for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antoniok.spb@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3BD88FC12 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so7568900vws.13 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 02:11:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=v2TapteKRlNnvn2sI0l5kdoDYacEU6wBkKtfjo+6q8E=; b=LJXCsuJuzq01PyPsZpjllbX+dpmZZygKobyTMAEibAoQb9JW/DeRpWxQSYJhIfyfkC HcJYFIUuRTk+ZF59VCZJnFKIJ0UMKza6pahHfeDS0RxC41RuGuYnqvZgpB2AZMwcsbnx ONimCZViWHHeaNFrcDT7JsRmlWzYd6RpY9Qes= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=k5VGBL/B7crbkmhOkQT7PvfHyVKSpnsitRGxmAlvew3baF5/warvRcHiIDcBUDAyXP 7YYrsst7ln6Rp2m+qPlFrFz4whOvrprZmuS9tKEnLPv3AxG+egV7R560has9pfoTCw17 Fgdc3sDfBzeMgbOguth7zDg4U7Kw//rFOLeVU= Received: by 10.220.24.194 with SMTP id w2mr661988vcb.166.1284541885184; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 02:11:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.187.130 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 02:11:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C9086E4.9040707@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4C9086E4.9040707@infracaninophile.co.uk> From: Antonio Kless Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:11:05 +0400 Message-ID: To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: how to re-read /etc/newsyslog.conf ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:11:27 -0000 2010/9/15 Matthew Seaman > On 15/09/2010 09:02, Antonio Kless wrote: > > I have changed my /etc/newsyslog.conf by adding some new lines. How to > make > > FreeBSD re-read it? > > > > # /etc/rc.d/newsyslog status > > newsyslog is not running. > > > > Is it OK? > > newsyslog is a cron job that gets run every hour. There's nothing to > restart. Changes to newsyslog.conf will be picked up the next time it > runs. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > > OK, now I see. Then for what /etc/rc.d/newsyslog are there? FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE. -- Best regards, Antonio Kless, http://kless.spb.ru/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 10:10:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02BD01065696 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8FEE8FC16 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:10:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-147.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.147]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F441D8DB; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:10:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8FAAIvQ001465; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:10:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:10:18 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Remko Lodder" Message-Id: <20100915121018.a3a1f275.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4C906AB2.3030004@rawbw.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: yuri@rawbw.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to prevent system to launch interactive fsck after improper shutdown and reboot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:10:22 -0000 On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:47:38 +0200, "Remko Lodder" wrote: > > >> Almost every time after improper shutdown (poweroff) and reboot I get > >> into interactive fsck. > >> > >> I am being asked whole bunch of questions to which I just have to answer > >> Y (what are my other options?) > >> > >> Why drop user into interactive fsck if there is not much choice anyways? > >> Is there a way to set it up the way it doesn't drop into interactive > >> mode? Like answer 'Y' to all questions? > >> > >> Yuri > > I think this might do your trick: > > fsck_y_enable="NO" # Set to YES to do fsck -y if the initial preen > fails. > fsck_y_flags="" # Additional flags for fsck -y > > The reason for this to get interactively is because this might messup > with your filesystem, and you are the one responsible for your filesystem, > not us or the autmated system. So in case you want to "play" with that, > that's entirely up to you. > > In addition, I can imagine that companies (been there done it) do not want > to fsck -y by default, this because of the mentioned potential corruption > and dataloss. Very important point. As an addition, allow me to mention background_fsck="YES" as an entry in /etc/rc.conf. This will let the system boot up and perform fsck checks while the system is running - running on a maybe defective or inconsistent file system. This is dangerous, but possible. It utilizes a snapshot mechanism which can cause further trouble (lost / emptyinodes and disappearing subtrees of files). Personally, if fsck requires YOUR attention, there's usually a reason for this. The reason is possible data loss or file system corruption where YOU take the responsibility of decision, not fsck. By default, fsck does not do damaging, but under strange circumstances, it can happen. For example, if you want to do a special kind of data recovery or forensic analysis on a file system, you potentially DO NOT WANT fsck to assume "y" for all the questions because that can make your job harder. A common additional "y flag" is -f (means fsck -yf) to force all operations suggested by fsck and confirming them. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 10:21:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D951065674 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:21:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D4E48FC0C for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:21:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from russet.local (reflex.squiz.co.uk [83.217.109.164]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8FALkFm027130 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:21:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host reflex.squiz.co.uk [83.217.109.164] claimed to be russet.local Message-ID: <4C909E34.5040809@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:21:40 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antonio Kless References: <4C9086E4.9040707@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8259B338F423D3D668BA17D1" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: how to re-read /etc/newsyslog.conf ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:21:53 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8259B338F423D3D668BA17D1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15/09/2010 10:11, Antonio Kless wrote: > OK, now I see. > Then for what /etc/rc.d/newsyslog are there? >=20 It's a shell script. If you read it, you'll find the comments will elucidate. Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig8259B338F423D3D668BA17D1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyQnjoACgkQ8Mjk52CukIw61gCeL7L5nuvqK3wU1NK5/Nxj+FDz UMMAn33aXM7Dy1agoQ7RDO++8bhcfqFA =rUnv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8259B338F423D3D668BA17D1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 10:37:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30E901065670 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948FB8FC0C for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:37:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:27:26 +0200 Message-ID: <4C909F8E.60705@ose.nl> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:27:26 +0200 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100826 Thunderbird/3.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C9086E4.9040707@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Antonio Kless Subject: Re: how to re-read /etc/newsyslog.conf ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:37:31 -0000 On 09/15/2010 11=3A11 AM=2C Antonio Kless wrote=3A =3E 2010/9/15 Matthew Seaman =3Cm=2Eseaman=40infracaninophile=2Eco=2Euk=3E= =3E =3E =20 =3E=3E On 15/09/2010 09=3A02=2C Antonio Kless wrote=3A =3E=3E =20 =3E=3E=3E I have changed my /etc/newsyslog=2Econf by adding some new lines= =2E How to =3E=3E=3E =20 =3E=3E make =3E=3E =20 =3E=3E=3E FreeBSD re-read it=3F =3E=3E=3E =3E=3E=3E =23 /etc/rc=2Ed/newsyslog status =3E=3E=3E newsyslog is not running=2E =3E=3E=3E =3E=3E=3E Is it OK=3F =3E=3E=3E =20 =3E=3E newsyslog is a cron job that gets run every hour=2E There=27s nothi= ng to =3E=3E restart=2E Changes to newsyslog=2Econf will be picked up the next t= ime it =3E=3E runs=2E =3E=3E =3E=3E Cheers=2C =3E=3E =3E=3E Matthew =3E=3E =3E=3E -- =3E=3E Dr Matthew J Seaman MA=2C D=2EPhil=2E 7 Priory Cou= rtyard =3E=3E Flat 3 =3E=3E PGP=3A http=3A//www=2Einfracaninophile=2Eco=2Euk/pgpkey Ramsgate= =3E=3E JID=3A matthew=40infracaninophile=2Eco=2Euk Kent=2C CT= 11 9PW =3E=3E =3E=3E =3E=3E =20 =3E OK=2C now I see=2E =3E Then for what /etc/rc=2Ed/newsyslog are there=3F =3E =3E FreeBSD 7=2E2-RELEASE=2E =3E =3E =3E =20 Hi I guess this is for running newsyslog during boot to cleanup logfiles =28enable in rc=2Econf=29 The same as ntpdate for instance DISCLAIMER=3A This e-mail is for the intended recipient=28s=29 only=2E Acce= ss=2C disclosure=2C copying=2C distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited=2E If yo= u have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system= =2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 11:02:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73A9106564A for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:02:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BC78FC12 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:02:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk8 with SMTP id 8so23422gxk.13 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 04:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.108.9 with SMTP id g9mr1531750anc.233.1284548566299; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 04:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-147-230.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.147.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r20sm2102043anf.7.2010.09.15.04.02.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 15 Sep 2010 04:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 63F42E5480D for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:02:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:02:41 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20100915070241.23391390@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4C906D49.5090500@gmail.com> References: <86zkvk2f92.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4C906D49.5090500@gmail.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAG1BMVEX3/uPVnZf2/v9ejGkqHB74++H///+cHCT3m6cgqYvfAAACbElEQVQ4jWXTQW/bIBQAYJLJuRMn8TVCss9zTdrrXJ6bHe1Ej/bossF9EpJ3nbapf3sP8JxOQ4qV8OU9HvjBROWcYNlKHtxlQ1/huBaOBiMwQtgHhbokMLIT76Acps5hvy61+6WsjkCZzNEW0+fcQ7Nl5uoPCegjjjhN5/MEABd89k9hXkQoX6cwPIDKCt8tYG5wpmdrxAyuolTPqpiVoEpVCWvl6e00RAD4JBJQnO4lvv0O4Cnd3WUGevYNFohxFYAy7jCCtW39LaQK8BgDAgiHVinVJlCiFKlcqgEHfwb1EuG+DwFGMO3oCIuJIEYoa8KJECBB+UBldgm0MQmEGz7GQr8XYRPKzYNO1zZ8mgdAu4BG5Ke/4KFboM8458UScViAAvYD93OAsu+Bc3zxCU7ZAjT74+dQv9K7oO0d1wuscop48Pc50O5bcVwgGzh/mXzaizJuAWERh8k3eaxKmxu4kV1p2XOEg3i3c8M+EKR93P0D1KATpC55vMHaGqFf5f/AwhlrhHgg8DTezopt6I3o3Qx4q4q6YaPxK8RxcClXeFGhTTS++QR6TS/oBs7l4WhzuNMubZG6hIBkF4qqZVdWczIqSrjKVF/i4o26IP2oElBGFy5CXKSnf6UWDTC6zKSqoAvzsakjjBvdzLKnmxdhY8eRsX7VSCUBdgD1hVJpx6y2OOS1DNDILYmqdWUJ+oHvd0rRvAqX5kpxQMR6yxHzPV6VlPFyWE7LKc36keNQI64gLP8Ybgtmg+zYuBl4fuI8VqW2RqDGE8Uzu7GxGa803whDdxx3bSZbRhfQUSxvmnpLZWpRFqHz7v8AvsBe0S1zv9UAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:02:51 -0000 On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 01:52:57 -0500 Joshua Isom articulated: > As to the original post, Java, a "portable" "write once run anywhere" > language, doesn't work on FreeBSD, a "standard" type operating system > that mainly runs on "standard" hardware, when used with Xorg, a > widely used "standard," as a plug in for Firefox, a major and > presumably the dominant *nix web browser. Maybe the question should > go to Oracle about why it doesn't work. A java applet probably works > on your Symbian smart phone running on ARM. Java is offered in many different versions that work on a multitude of operating systems. To expect or require, and I have no idea how you would enforce the requirement bit, Oracle or any other software vendor for that matter to design software that is fully functional on all operating systems is simply unrealistic and most likely unobtainable. There are numerous examples of software that work only on a limited number of *.nix flavors. To be made operational on other operating systems usually requires reworking the code and in many cases disabling many of the software's features. Even then there is no guarantee that it will work correctly, if at all. It took years, literally, before FreeBSD matured enough to get 64-bit drivers for nVidia working correctly on its platform. The failure to get the latest version(s) of Java working correctly on FreeBSD and thereby, at least in my case, make the latest version of Firefox fully usable, rests with the FreeBSD developers. I have not been able to ascertain exactly why Java cannot be made functional on a modern FreeBSD system. Other than receiving some useless suggestion about donating money to the Java foundation, or whatever it is called, nobody has responded with an answer. The bottom line is that Java appears to be functioning on other flavors of *.nix, but not FreeBSD. It would seem pretty obvious where the problem lies. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ What if God’s a woman? Not only am I going to hell, I’ll never know why. Adam Ferrara From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 11:05:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CF11065694 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jahan@bol-online.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB1E8FC24 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so71928qyk.13 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 04:05:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.3.3 with SMTP id 3mr940601qal.181.1284548700185; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 04:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.230.10 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 04:05:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [115.127.8.85] Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:05:00 +0600 Message-ID: From: Aftab Jahan Subedar To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: gcc44 failed while installing x11/kde4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:05:01 -0000 I am not getting able to compile gcc44 while making kde4. Below is the copy n paste. Anyone found solution to that? # uname -a FreeBSD space.subedartech.net 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #8: Wed Sep 15 15:36:45 UTC 2010 root@space.subedartech.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 #cd /usr/ports/lang/gcc44 #make install clean ......................... checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd8.1 ld.so checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether to build static libraries... yes checking how to run the C preprocessor... cc -E checking build system type... i386-portbld-freebsd8.1 checking host system type... i386-portbld-freebsd8.1 checking target system type... checking for stdlib.h... (cached) i386-portbld-freebsd8.1 yes checking for unistd.h... (cached) checking LIBRARY_PATH variable... ok yes checking GCC_EXEC_PREFIX variable... ok checking whether to place generated files in the source directory... no configure: error: cannot execute: /usr/local/bin/ld: check --with-ld or env. var checking for getpagesize... gmake[2]: *** [configure-stage1-gcc] Error 1 gmake[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... yes checking for working mmap... yes checking for memcpy... yes checking for strerror... yes checking for deflate in -lz... yes checking for unistd.h... (cached) yes updating cache ./config.cache configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating Makefile config.status: executing default-1 commands config.status: executing depfiles commands config.status: executing libtool commands gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build' gmake[1]: *** [stage1-bubble] Error 2 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build' gmake: *** [bootstrap-lean] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc44. # - Jahan Subedar Technologies Inc Dhaka Bangladesh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 07:00:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EFF106567A for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4E68FC18 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:00:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lenovo.syrec.org ([194.158.199.205]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8F706kT039070; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:00:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4C906EF7.3090200@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:00:07 +0300 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100723 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Remko Lodder References: <4C906AB2.3030004@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:18:30 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to prevent system to launch interactive fsck after improper shutdown and reboot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:00:39 -0000 On 09/15/10 09:47, Remko Lodder wrote: > I think this might do your trick: > > fsck_y_enable="NO" # Set to YES to do fsck -y if the initial preen > fails. > fsck_y_flags="" # Additional flags for fsck -y > > The reason for this to get interactively is because this might messup > with your filesystem, and you are the one responsible for your filesystem, > not us or the autmated system. So in case you want to "play" with that, > that's entirely up to you. > > In addition, I can imagine that companies (been there done it) do not want > to fsck -y by default, this because of the mentioned potential corruption > and dataloss. > > Thanks > remko > > p.s. This was found within 5 seconds in /etc/defaults/rc.conf. > > Thanks Remko! I never had spare 5 secs for this :-), and now when I left my computer to friends (not computer savvy) they got into this trap. There is no database... I think installer better asks this question during installation since many users just run a desktop and -y is pretty much ok for them. Thank you again, Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 07:27:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9121065675 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E9D68FC0C for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:27:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 58636 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Sep 2010 07:27:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1284535678; bh=drrE9xVuqBswkx19pDmnbjZtjRZu9m3zJAD4oML5wfU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=o2wniLVIic4vpa6PVM71vPt68UzU9qOj5sMhZQKMvJGA14Dblqx6BHwECBSsbOclyumTyYHicnXAtM1HT3VYjfep3exml/L9J6t9REXUU6y5WGeBB6wVdMw74TBN8e9OuQtNlRB9GdpKsBACyfVkYle7++MQPMAB1hJkxsH2GvA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Qo1OHJkdNroI9Usx2vUV5mj1zHQwVhcWVABg4aKV+NB5e7WgKNJ1f85roraZ0FPhfY1W5NKhc5a+s5vdeo5WaJNt5wS7fqyRqS6Fj/fRkub9clU2wtVcC6wiGXlvcbT7H0Z/dk+w38iddVgSyrgYJNBl1uQI4f3YqygWY4OeCzM=; Message-ID: <985459.58603.qm@web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: jAtpMPMVM1lNkidA6UGh46gWDQF_x.1CUg1Fky734smUWoh XkE47R4UhcoxhoYYwXeZFhryVRse2HRyAVkE38HRTP7K7tAOBwkltpwWkgWj pO73Wg27ssmhmf0XlNdR1YnZM5BJYLkTZkGSEszM0gADgjXA8r9dwo32dNX_ NVVTZMXns8twa52e72I9Nbd5m8IOTRkkqtmd7wOZxr0MCe81GiLS7h6PZc8D OctT8ysTMLMdbO2K4uJcMuat877kvSXGCDJxLKB5FCC7pK_XdTDmI0Vj1N0Q t790- Received: from [94.21.228.238] by web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:27:57 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/470 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:27:57 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:18:47 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: CPU temp munin plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:27:58 -0000 Hi,=0A=0AWhat plugin do you use in munin to get values of your CPU?=0A=0ATh= anks!=0ALaszlo=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 13:35:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D971065672 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4A88FC16 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.4/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id o8FDGb9f098137 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:16:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 164 Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C26789E77 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:16:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix, from userid 2005) id AA17A40C9; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:17:32 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:17:32 +0000 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100915151732.GA46569@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 4C90C735.006 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 4C90C735.006/134.157.10.1/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/ Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:35:22 -0000 Jerry said: " It took years, literally, before FreeBSD matured enough to get 64-bit drivers for nVidia working correctly on its platform. The failure to get the latest version(s) of Java working correctly on FreeBSD and thereby, at least in my case, make the latest version of Firefox fully usable, rests with the FreeBSD developers. " I would be happy to have a precise information on what is not working. On my machine, FreeBSD-8.1 x86, Java works. niobe% java -version java version "1.6.0_03-p4" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_03-p4-michel_30_jul_2010_15_01-b00) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.6.0_03-p4-michel_30_jul_2010_15_01-b00, mixed mode) As you can see, it is a recent java, and i have compiled it myself. If i remember well, the prebuilt diablo-jdk was not working. I have boostraped my compilation by using a prebuilt openjdk installed with pkg_add -r. Of course i modified the Makefile to be able to use it. The openjdk package did not include a mozilla plugin, but the above compilation produces a plugin. Now the real problem: firefox36 doesn't see the plugin, and even worse doesn't produce any message about the plugin when starting up. However i am able to use the plugin under seamonkey, so it is clearly a firefox problem, and not a Java problem or a FreeBSD problem. Strangely enough, Konqueror, which doesn't use the plugin, but a direct invocation of java, doesn't work either. Execution of an applet begins, something appears but the applet execution never appears on screen. This is the first time i see Java not working on Konqueror. Last point: some people say in this thread that nobody uses Java any more on the browser, hence it is of no importance that one cannot have a java enabled firefox. I have an example to the contrary, here in France you can submit your tax declaration online, and the application allowing to do that is a java applet running under the browser. Similarly i am using a printing service for my photographs which allows to download them and manage the order via a java applet. Hence, at least in my case i see immediately several important applications using a Java enabled browser. -- Michel TALON From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 13:46:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070F11065679 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from c.mail.ru.ac.za (c.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC068FC19 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:46:21 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=C1GMgS7QQ1PykJIBlqZQpAbTvJAEjkp5e4RtpcaMcpxAimFqBdbq5lvHR+JSerwVAR9s6fmwOorFrp1UUwjKN3d3rmdGqvn9yJ28IKNjncKDQkN6ReYyZme2YH47Tzlj; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:63169) by c.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OvsJV-0004rT-1y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:46:17 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:46:16 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4C906D49.5090500@gmail.com> <20100915070241.23391390@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20100915070241.23391390@scorpio> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: c.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:3) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:46:22 -0000 On Wednesday 15 September 2010 13:02:41 Jerry wrote: > It took years, literally, before FreeBSD matured enough to get 64-bit > drivers for nVidia working correctly on its platform. The failure to > get the latest version(s) of Java working correctly on FreeBSD and > thereby, at least in my case, make the latest version of Firefox fully > usable, rests with the FreeBSD developers. > > I have not been able to ascertain exactly why Java cannot be made > functional on a modern FreeBSD system. Other than receiving some > useless suggestion about donating money to the Java foundation, or > whatever it is called, nobody has responded with an answer. > The bottom line is that Java appears to be functioning on other flavors > of *.nix, but not FreeBSD. It would seem pretty obvious where the > problem lies. Yes. It lies with Sun and Oracle, and the licensing terms that prevent the FreeBSD project from distributing modified Java packages. More generally, the problem lies with companies who won't support FreeBSD but also prevent the project from supporting their product itself. There are strong commercial interests in Linux - IBM, Red Hat, Oracle, to name three - which makes it worth spending some money supporting a product on Linux. (That goes for other products too: nvidia graphics card drivers, flash, wireless networking device drivers...) Even so there are products that have patchy support in Linux too. FreeBSD isn't as attractive a commercial target, since it has no financially powerful backers (that I'm aware of), a small market share, and not much public awareness. Some companies are prepared to sink resources into supporting it anyway, and others are prepared to release the information needed for the FreeBSD project to support their products for them. There are other companies, as I said, that won't do either. I don't think it's fair to blame the FreeBSD developers for that; nor indeed to expect the FreeBSD developers to be responsible for making Sun/Oracle's Java and the Mozilla Foundation's Firefox work. Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 13:52:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2257C1065673 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:52:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cbergstrom@pathscale.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC488FC08 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:52:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz15 with SMTP id 15so658882bwz.13 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.125.131 with SMTP id y3mr591210far.9.1284558768449; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.5.149] ([119.42.120.69]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j14sm574565faa.23.2010.09.15.06.52.45 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C90CFF9.20206@pathscale.com> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 20:54:01 +0700 From: =?UTF-8?B?IkMuIEJlcmdzdHLDtm0i?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan McKeown References: <4C906D49.5090500@gmail.com> <20100915070241.23391390@scorpio> <201009151546.16746.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> In-Reply-To: <201009151546.16746.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:52:50 -0000 Jonathan McKeown wrote: > > Yes. It lies with Sun and Oracle, and the licensing terms that prevent the > FreeBSD project from distributing modified Java packages. More generally, the > problem lies with companies who won't support FreeBSD but also prevent the > project from supporting their product itself. > I've been wanting to ignore this thread because I know the amount of work involved, but.... #1 Why doesn't someone sign-up and get the OpenJDK validation suite? #2 Why doesn't someone pull Icedtea6, build it and then run the OpenJDK validation suite? I don't know if waiting for others is going to get the desired results in this case.. After the project is rolling I'm happy to help make suggestions or give a hand with how to make Hotspot and the whole JDK a little better performance. Thanks ./C From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 14:03:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B90C106566C; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:03:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mostafafaridi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E764E8FC1C; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:03:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so69849wwe.31 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:03:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3/frVSoT7H7ge1gMZhdv7cCQPrthWyBed5Nd0868k2k=; b=oDygcJtmrRhyJXDJv44fRmArEsOvMos19gaEykkxJ1yASCEY3NUZl6fQwdyJtI6QZQ A7hPiuBo2pDmwNYzV0gUBX1zA9o+400LMWzS5RWgmmtuxzOH9wH3xDMLyLnyXCS0x9eE DrHn7nJUDlHikVIlYCfDW8TuOlxZnWt2KfRLA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; 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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: virtaullBox AMD64 32bit lib X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:03:51 -0000 On 09/15/2010 13:00, Edho P Arief wrote: > sh install.sh I download all file and go to download directory and run that command , for first time I do not see error and do not see messages , but when I run that sh install.sh again I see this error "mfaridipc# sh install.sh ./usr/lib32/libc.so.7: Could not unlink ./usr/lib32/libcrypt.so.5: Could not unlink ./usr/lib32/librt.so.1: Could not unlink ./usr/lib32/libthr.so.3: Could not unlink ./libexec/ld-elf32.so.1: Could not unlink tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors." and problem do not solve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 14:08:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91AFF106564A for ; 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:08:53 -0000 On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:17:32 +0000 Michel Talon articulated: > > Jerry said: > " > It took years, literally, before FreeBSD matured enough to get 64-bit > drivers for nVidia working correctly on its platform. The failure to > get the latest version(s) of Java working correctly on FreeBSD and > thereby, at least in my case, make the latest version of Firefox fully > usable, rests with the FreeBSD developers. > " > > I would be happy to have a precise information on what is not working. > On my machine, FreeBSD-8.1 x86, Java works. > niobe% java -version > java version "1.6.0_03-p4" > Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build > 1.6.0_03-p4-michel_30_jul_2010_15_01-b00) > Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build > 1.6.0_03-p4-michel_30_jul_2010_15_01-b00, mixed mode) On my system, using the latest build available in the ports system: $ java -version java version "1.6.0_07" Diablo Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_07-b02) Diablo Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 10.0-b23, mixed mode) > As you can see, it is a recent java, and i have compiled it myself. > If i remember well, the prebuilt diablo-jdk was not working. I have > boostraped my compilation by using a prebuilt openjdk installed with > pkg_add -r. Of course i modified the Makefile to be able to use it. > > The openjdk package did not include a mozilla plugin, but the above > compilation produces a plugin. > > Now the real problem: firefox36 doesn't see the plugin, and even worse > doesn't produce any message about the plugin when starting up. > However i am able to use the plugin under seamonkey, so it is clearly > a firefox problem, and not a Java problem or a FreeBSD problem. > Strangely enough, Konqueror, which doesn't use the plugin, but a > direct invocation of java, doesn't work either. Execution of an > applet begins, something appears but the applet execution never > appears on screen. This is the first time i see Java not working on > Konqueror. I am using Firefox: $ firefox3 --version Mozilla Firefox 3.6.9, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2010 mozilla.org If I wanted to use a different browser, I would. Hell, I could just use Windows and not worry about Java incompatibilities entirely. As per the Mozilla site: "Starting in Firefox 3.6, you also need the new Java plugin included in Java 6 Update 15 and above." FreeBSD does not supply, nor support as far as I can decipher, that version or any of the newer versions, the latest being version 6, update 21. Nor, as I stated previously, has anyone stated definitively why. > Last point: some people say in this thread that nobody uses Java any > more on the browser, hence it is of no importance that one cannot > have a java enabled firefox. I have an example to the contrary, here > in France you can submit your tax declaration online, and the > application allowing to do that is a java applet running under the > browser. Similarly i am using a printing service for my photographs > which allows to download them and manage the order via a java applet. > Hence, at least in my case i see immediately several important > applications using a Java enabled browser. People bitch about not needing or requiring Java based virtually solely on the lack of support the FreeBSD community (developers) have afforded it. If, Java worked as well on FreeBSD as it does on Windows and many other operating systems, their scorn would turn to praise. It is just the nature of the beast. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 14:45:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5081065693 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79DA8FC16 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:45:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.4/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id o8FEjeP2057172 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:45:40 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 165 Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14CEC8A46B for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:45:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix, from userid 2005) id BA2BC40C9; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:46:35 +0000 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100915164635.GA48986@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 4C90DC14.006 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 4C90DC14.006/134.157.10.1/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/ Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:45:42 -0000 Jerry said: > "Starting in Firefox 3.6, you also need the new Java plugin included in > Java 6 Update 15 and above." OK, this explains why my plugin doesn't work. So the only solution is to use the port firefox35 hoping that other components (flash plugin support) also work in this case. > FreeBSD does not supply, nor support as far as I can decipher, that > version or any of the newer versions, the latest being version 6, update > 21. Nor, as I stated previously, has anyone stated definitively why. It takes a long time for FreeBSD to support a new version of the jdk, because this is an extremely voluminous and complicated software, and the number of developers working on Java support is very small. -- Michel TALON From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 15:49:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EFC106566C for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:49:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from center@tech-center.com) Received: from mail.folderburg.com (88.225.191.90.sta.estpak.ee [90.191.225.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513C18FC1F for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gprs-inet-65-17.elisa.ee [194.150.65.17] by mail.folderburg.com with SMTP; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:32:02 +0300 From: "MobTech Sverige" To: "freebsd-questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Organization: MobTech Sverige Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:31:53 +0300 Sender: center@tech-center.com X-Loop: center@tech-center.com X-Subscription: Subscribed via web form X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mail.folderburg.com X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - mail.tech-center.com X-AntiAbuse: Reporting - reporting@tech-center.com Message-Id: <20100915154923.04EFC106566C@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain ; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: =?utf-8?q?Prova_sin_relation_med_v=C3=A5r_prisbel=C3=B6nt_k?= =?utf-8?q?=C3=A4rleksmete?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:49:23 -0000 Hur het =C3=A4r er relation?=20 Kylig som ett isberg eller het som en vulkan? 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W1U3HB, London, United Kingdom.=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 16:39:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98C3106564A for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:39:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB248FC18 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:39:19 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAN6RkEyWZWdv/2dsb2JhbAAH6FCFQQSESA Received: from ppp103-111.static.internode.on.net (HELO [192.168.1.144]) ([150.101.103.111]) by ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 16 Sep 2010 02:09:17 +0930 From: Wayne Sierke To: Steven Friedrich In-Reply-To: <20100914003726.GA5762@freebsd.org> References: <201009111442.49114.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <20100914003726.GA5762@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ASCII" Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 02:09:15 +0930 Message-ID: <1284568755.20540.634.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Alexander Best , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apropos returning same item twice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:39:21 -0000 On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 00:37 +0000, Alexander Best wrote: > On Sat Sep 11 10, Steven Friedrich wrote: > > Why does apropos list mysql(1) twice? > > > > It doesn't return duplicates with apropos kde... > > maybe you have a gzip'ed and plain version in /usr ? > > see PR #4419. > > cheers. > alex Are you certain that /etc/manpath.config doesn't just still have /usr/X11R6/man configured (as well as /usr/local/man)? Admittedly the kde issue is a mystery, assuming its manpages are installed in /usr/local/man. This system has the following: OPTIONAL_MANPATH /usr/local/man # (disabled by xorg-libraries port) OPTIONAL_MANPATH /usr/X11R6/man MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin /usr/local/man # (disabled by xorg-libraries port) MANPATH_MAP /usr/X11R6/bin /usr/X11R6/man Is the whatis file being updated? Check the timestamp: # ls -l /usr/local/man/whatis -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 273178 Sep 11 04:22 /usr/local/man/whatis Wayne > > admin@laptop2(/dev/pts/1)/usr/home/admin 106% apropos mysql > > mysql(1) - the MySQL command-line tool > > mysql.server(1) - MySQL server startup script > > mysql_config(1) - get compile options for compiling clients > > mysql_install_db(1) - initialize MySQL data directory > > mysql_tzinfo_to_sql(1) - load the time zone tables > > mysql_upgrade(1) - check tables for MySQL upgrade > > mysql_waitpid(1) - kill process and wait for its termination > > mysqladmin(1) - client for administering a MySQL server > > mysqlbinlog(1) - utility for processing binary log files > > mysqlbug(1) - generate bug report > > mysqlcheck(1) - a table maintenance program > > mysqld_safe(1) - MySQL server startup script safe_mysqld - MySQL > > server startup script > > mysqldump(1) - a database backup program > > mysqlimport(1) - a data import program > > mysqlshow(1) - display database, table, and column information > > mysqltest(1) - program to run test cases mysqltest_embedded - > > program to run embedded test cases > > slapd-ndb(5) - MySQL NDB backend to slapd > > mysql(1) - the MySQL command-line tool > > mysql.server(1) - MySQL server startup script > > mysql_config(1) - get compile options for compiling clients > > mysql_install_db(1) - initialize MySQL data directory > > mysql_tzinfo_to_sql(1) - load the time zone tables > > mysql_upgrade(1) - check tables for MySQL upgrade > > mysql_waitpid(1) - kill process and wait for its termination > > mysqladmin(1) - client for administering a MySQL server > > mysqlbinlog(1) - utility for processing binary log files > > mysqlbug(1) - generate bug report > > mysqlcheck(1) - a table maintenance program > > mysqld_safe(1) - MySQL server startup script safe_mysqld - MySQL > > server startup script > > mysqldump(1) - a database backup program > > mysqlimport(1) - a data import program > > mysqlshow(1) - display database, table, and column information > > mysqltest(1) - program to run test cases mysqltest_embedded - > > program to run embedded test cases > > slapd-ndb(5) - MySQL NDB backend to slapd > > > > -- > > System Name: laptop2.StevenFriedrich.org > > Hardware: 2.80GHz Intel Pentium 4 (HTT) with 2 GB memory > > OS version: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE i386 (6.9 MB kernel) > > manager(s): kde4-4.5.1 > > X windows: xorg-7.5 X.Org X Server 1.7.5 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 16:42:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C371065670 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from center@tech-center.com) Received: from mail.folderburg.com (88.225.191.90.sta.estpak.ee [90.191.225.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A011D8FC1D for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:42:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gprs-inet-65-17.elisa.ee [194.150.65.17] by mail.folderburg.com with SMTP; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 19:15:06 +0300 From: "MobTech Sverige" To: "questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Organization: MobTech Sverige Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 19:14:57 +0300 Sender: center@tech-center.com X-Loop: center@tech-center.com X-Subscription: Subscribed via web form X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mail.folderburg.com X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - mail.tech-center.com X-AntiAbuse: Reporting - reporting@tech-center.com Message-Id: <20100915164225.59C371065670@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain ; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: =?utf-8?b?SHVyIGhldCDDpHIgZXIgcmVsYXRpb24/IDop?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:42:25 -0000 Hur het =C3=A4r er relation?=20 Kylig som ett isberg eller het som en vulkan? 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W1U3HB, London, United Kingdom.=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 17:07:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A62A1065672 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:07:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6088FC13 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so303038ewy.13 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:07:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.14.131 with SMTP id g3mr4288088eba.47.1284570444691; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.29.13 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:07:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [69.91.159.76] In-Reply-To: <4C906EF7.3090200@rawbw.com> References: <4C906AB2.3030004@rawbw.com> <4C906EF7.3090200@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:07:24 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: How to prevent system to launch interactive fsck after improper shutdown and reboot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:07:26 -0000 On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Yuri wrote: > Thanks Remko! > I never had spare 5 secs for this :-), and now when I left my computer to > friends (not computer savvy) they got into this trap. There is no > database... I think installer better asks this question during installation > since many users just run a desktop and -y is pretty much ok for them. Train your friends to shut the machine down by pressing (not holding down!) the power button. On any modern machine ACPI should trigger a clean shutdown/poweroff. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 17:13:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17841065673 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:13:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdsfbsd@att.net) Received: from smtp110.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (smtp110.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.14.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A2AF28FC1A for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:13:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 38275 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2010 16:46:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1284569199; bh=Il0FO/VC1eV+qtTMESJgZ8JgvtjkeHqFOwNdpjozAns=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:To:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=FRResS/LmO9K14IBNCMpOgUCtEASS5icb0HZ8RpI4L3iO7hP/qbDgrW4D9keUvDaef0ch69c4pcc6pftnsEU2KrrXM3wdAdF2N6s1f7xrYVxJt7Cm+TuUCq9wX+sfjFMJUS6aS3ckFQRZxJPMROYU5gLvO12od3l1it4DhdY/pw= Received: from ack5833s2.ad.service.osu.edu (bdsfbsd@128.146.175.36 with login) by smtp110.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2010 09:46:38 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: d5tX3UiswBBe7eAro3WwBCIcMc7tMmv23kUXyA-- X-YMail-OSG: KRFsJmcVM1kbnuGVTYaQ3B48JEeBiYC4wJSiUwrnjaSMgmo UwacfaOIf9tpLJ021GRpQFdEEY642EBe5Xr_YKddllATDxG482OH1xDYbzNe LlUzT3qqSIUzlnffdYH63uu3XfEYpZL9.wPnF_OAybhDFpDERWKryHNFsgM2 9Sd5IvrFKR.lFbNncN8_DaWC9qoxEL6l4uYz4HaGONvcNOyk5V.DFobwMAHZ V92MGMPMU4SMhIZbwBtew0ninlOMtdFWL9RqRUqPcfnnwydVPtHguTsTVuIn 9QJA- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <20100915164635.GA48986@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:46:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: bdsfbsd@att.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20100915164635.GA48986@lpthe.jussieu.fr> User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.62 (Win32) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:28:11 +0000 Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:13:19 -0000 On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:46:35 -0400, Michel Talon wrote: > Jerry said: > >> "Starting in Firefox 3.6, you also need the new Java plugin included in >> Java 6 Update 15 and above." > > OK, this explains why my plugin doesn't work. So the only solution is to > use the port firefox35 hoping that other components (flash plugin > support) also work in this case. > This, by the way, is probably the correct and only answer the OP was looking for. I had Java working just fine in a previous install, but hadn't bothered with it lately so I didn't want to answer the OP and possibly misinform. The OP didn't mean to troll (thus the non-descriptive yet truthful subject line), but we got treated to a big pointless discussion of whether or not Java is useful/evil anyway, with the added joy for some of us of receiving many copies of the responses thanks to the cross-posting. Sometimes people just want the _technical_ answer, not the _political_ one, regardless of the strength of your convictions. 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Processed in 0.072905 secs Process 92043) Received: from wolfgang.cbt-l.de (HELO wolfgang.localnet) (w.riegler@cbt-l.de@192.168.40.46) by mail.cbt-l.de with SMTP; 15 Sep 2010 19:10:29 -0000 From: Wolfgang Riegler To: "freebsd-questions" Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:10:36 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.34-gentoo-r6-sepp1; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009152110.36850.wolfgang.riegler@gmx.de> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:i3Yx3nh2gNWUSFo8eS4mlefZMZWpWfrcN3ELSIP7vQS sJfG4yPMxwAAzyqhR9n+9EQHvGoukzbAChAbPXR5LqKrWW9JP/ DZYuCvYVhtvGFWe/+RvoO6KAXAiImCggKL99/XxzgkYe2QY8T4 W5g68axgFFDNiu+ObTvqxWUnt1NNQy6rbUkJlBsUvSTuZWJqht ZnahwU7gtFc+suITGdlO3YnfTUK0WhSE4jmGKNyH2M= Subject: gateway_enable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 19:23:07 -0000 Hi, I have a question about building a FreeBSD gateway. I want to create a subnet in our internal company network. I have installed FreeBSD 8.0 RELEASE i386, no updates, right from the FreeBSD CD. Now I want to configure this box as the gateway of the subnet. I have two NICs configured. One external for the company network and one for the new subnet. On this box I can reach any other computer in our internal network, I have internet access, too, and I can reach the box on the subnet. The box on the subnet is able to ping both NICs on my FreeBSD box, but cannot reach any other computer of my company network or the internet. Because I don't need any firewall on this subnet, I thought gateway_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf should be sufficient. But it doesn't work. Do I need something else? # cat /etc/rc.conf keymap="german.iso" moused_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" hostname="gw2" ifconfig_rl0="DHCP" ifconfig_re0="inet 192.168.50.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" gateway_enable="YES" # sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding net.inet.ip.forwarding: 1 # netstat -rn Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 192.168.40.1 UGS 0 0 rl0 127.0.0.1 link#6 UH 0 0 lo0 192.168.40.0/24 link#2 U 1 274 rl0 192.168.40.122 link#2 UHS 0 0 lo0 192.168.50.0/24 link#1 U 0 15 re0 192.168.50.1 link#1 UHS 0 0 lo0 Internet6: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire ::1 ::1 UH lo0 fe80::%lo0/64 link#6 U lo0 fe80::1%lo0 link#6 UHS lo0 ff01:6::/32 fe80::1%lo0 U lo0 ff02::%lo0/32 fe80::1%lo0 U lo0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 19:27:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941CE10656A9 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 19:27:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout030.mac.com (asmtpout030.mac.com [17.148.16.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2D48FC08 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 19:27:36 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp030.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L8S00JW3ZDOHE70@asmtp030.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:27:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1009150100 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-09-15_14:2010-09-15, 2010-09-15, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <201009152110.36850.wolfgang.riegler@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:27:24 -0700 Message-id: References: <201009152110.36850.wolfgang.riegler@gmx.de> To: Wolfgang Riegler X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: gateway_enable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 19:27:36 -0000 On Sep 15, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Wolfgang Riegler wrote: > I want to create a subnet in our internal company network. I have installed FreeBSD 8.0 RELEASE i386, no updates, right from the FreeBSD CD. Now I want to configure this box as the gateway of the subnet. I have two NICs configured. One external for the company network and one for the new subnet. On this box I can reach any other computer in our internal network, I have internet access, too, and I can reach the box on the subnet. The box on the subnet is able to ping both NICs on my FreeBSD box, but cannot reach any other computer of my company network or the internet. Because I don't need any firewall on this subnet, I thought gateway_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf should be sufficient. But it doesn't work. Do I need something else? Yes. What you've done thus far should work fine if your internal subnet was using routable IPs; since you are using 192.168.x.y RFC-1918 unroutable IPs, you want to also setup NAT on your gateway box: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-natd.html Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 19:30:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C3E1065673 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 19:30:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=phHm0sjR=QT=beatsnet.com=beat.siegenthaler@beatsnet.com) Received: from atom.beatsnet.com (cl-37.zrh-02.ch.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:1620:f00:24::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A058FC16 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 19:30:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Beat-Siegenthalers-MacBook-Pro.local ([IPv6:2001:1620:f14:0:46f:53e:bae2:bf43]) (authenticated bits=0) by atom.beatsnet.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8FJU8Xe074345 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:30:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from beat.siegenthaler@beatsnet.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=beatsnet.com; s=ATOM_DKIM; t=1284579009; bh=Na43T/ICFeUU/DKDA9UsgIYfNG3pprAKKhYkwJ6wnaE=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=NYkpj0K+aonm6zsU5owBk4+TmMmIbsDSa2ULo7LYvwekYPpkPNeL3aWzQ6009L4LK WW20zALzNmQjwQOUoo3LwLRunBZ9JO3zhTLnAxSIiJuehOYIJbush0s7AqpbxcIhF4 UjLiz9VeyAaZ3OdBLMRrPomIeY04gRFQuKzxpvZA= Message-ID: <4C911EC0.9000607@beatsnet.com> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:30:08 +0200 From: Beat Siegenthaler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201009152110.36850.wolfgang.riegler@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <201009152110.36850.wolfgang.riegler@gmx.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (atom.beatsnet.com [IPv6:2001:1620:f14::1]); Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:30:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.2 at atom.beatsnet.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: gateway_enable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 19:30:12 -0000 On 15.09.10 21:10, Wolfgang Riegler wrote: > > I thought gateway_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf should be sufficient. But it doesn't work. Do I need something else? > > > > Looks all ok. But does 192.168.40.1 have a route to 192.168.50.0/24 via GW 192.168.40.122? > > Internet: > > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > > default 192.168.40.1 UGS 0 0 rl0 > > 127.0.0.1 link#6 UH 0 0 lo0 > > 192.168.40.0/24 link#2 U 1 274 rl0 > > 192.168.40.122 link#2 UHS 0 0 lo0 > > 192.168.50.0/24 link#1 U 0 15 re0 > > 192.168.50.1 link#1 UHS 0 0 lo0 > > Gruss Beat From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 20:15:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2331065673 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 20:15:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7D48FC0A for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 20:15:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (h-74-2-96-2.chcgilgm.static.covad.net [74.2.96.2]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B0AC42968A; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:15:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C912868.6090403@cyberleo.net> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:11:20 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100911 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: CyberLeo Subject: Discard file cache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 20:15:23 -0000 Hi! I'm helping port a utility [1] to program the EyeFi card [2] and I seem to be running into problems properly manipulating the configuration. The card is programmed by writing encoded commands to certain hidden files on the card, and reading the coded responses back from other files. Since the card modifies the data in these files independently of the host operating system, there is a need to avoid all caching (read and write) whenever interacting with the card's interface. fsync(2) works for eliminating write caching, so that's no issue. While the Linux port of the software successfully accomplishes avoiding read caching by utilizing posix_fadvise and POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED to clear the caches for a particular file, the same does not appear to function on FreeBSD. I have also tried using msync with MS_INVALIDATE, but this doesn't appear to work either. Is there an official (or at least consistent) API for discarding a file's cached read data, so that it may be fetched afresh from the backing store? Thanks! [1] http://git.cyberleo.net/eyefi-config.git [2] http://www.eye.fi/ -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 20:26:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6561065693 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 20:26:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8CE8FC12 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 20:26:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B742612 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:07:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:07:54 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=content-type:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:from:message-id; s=smtpout; bh=By36DgSp7QXn6wwJmygopoNjD68=; b=fZRII07GYOFVKEngEUdohbIsXz4kcBFMx47oiv9MCypY0RQZWxzmqSdKXW/7J8T7LLzr/JdzhqWyRrq4jGJWKYIQLJ6gCpY71jrJrzYVzbHPdNbPHfYAM1LJ5fFaUrMFoxHb/jTCjwqGD7wxDAQ7apQASeGS7dtJbcxfx+jKii4= X-Sasl-enc: VDJArUqZqd2hTU+GR/QMcxLKNWSC2KQDubJ8LfmhBS+r 1284581274 Received: from jud-finks-macbook-pro.local (24.115.236.228.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net [24.115.236.228]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3B319407938 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:07:54 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: FBSD? Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:07:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable From: Jud Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.70 (MacIntel) Subject: So I've Been Wondering... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 20:26:24 -0000 Thinking of installing FreeBSD with ZFS root on my MacBook Pro as dual = boot, possibly treble with Win7. What's the best way to do this - Boot = = Camp, then follow FreeBSD Wiki? Thanks, Jud -- = "I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day." =E2= =80=94 = Douglas Adams From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 21:12:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CF01065705 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:12:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20BCC8FC13 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:12:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8FLBW5Z034794; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:11:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o8FLBUQA034790; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:11:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:11:30 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20100915121018.a3a1f275.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <4C906AB2.3030004@rawbw.com> <20100915121018.a3a1f275.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:11:33 -0400 (EDT) Cc: yuri@rawbw.com, Remko Lodder , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to prevent system to launch interactive fsck after improper shutdown and reboot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:12:00 -0000 On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:47:38 +0200, "Remko Lodder" wrote: >> >>>> Almost every time after improper shutdown (poweroff) and reboot I get >>>> into interactive fsck. >>>> >>>> I am being asked whole bunch of questions to which I just have to answer >>>> Y (what are my other options?) >>>> >>>> Why drop user into interactive fsck if there is not much choice anyways? >>>> Is there a way to set it up the way it doesn't drop into interactive >>>> mode? Like answer 'Y' to all questions? >>>> >>>> Yuri >> >> I think this might do your trick: >> >> fsck_y_enable="NO" # Set to YES to do fsck -y if the initial preen >> fails. >> fsck_y_flags="" # Additional flags for fsck -y >> >> The reason for this to get interactively is because this might messup >> with your filesystem, and you are the one responsible for your filesystem, >> not us or the autmated system. So in case you want to "play" with that, >> that's entirely up to you. >> >> In addition, I can imagine that companies (been there done it) do not want >> to fsck -y by default, this because of the mentioned potential corruption >> and dataloss. > > Very important point. > > As an addition, allow me to mention > > background_fsck="YES" > > as an entry in /etc/rc.conf. This will let the system boot up and perform > fsck checks while the system is running - running on a maybe defective or > inconsistent file system. This is dangerous, but possible. It utilizes a > snapshot mechanism which can cause further trouble (lost / emptyinodes > and disappearing subtrees of files). > > Personally, if fsck requires YOUR attention, there's usually a reason for > this. The reason is possible data loss or file system corruption where YOU > take the responsibility of decision, not fsck. By default, fsck does not > do damaging, but under strange circumstances, it can happen. For example, > if you want to do a special kind of data recovery or forensic analysis on > a file system, you potentially DO NOT WANT fsck to assume "y" for all the > questions because that can make your job harder. > > A common additional "y flag" is -f (means fsck -yf) to force all operations > suggested by fsck and confirming them. > I have had two systems die with bad disks. This email contains great information and spot-on advice from my experience. When I was ready to give up on my last system I did a -yf in single user mode and was able to get most of my data because the bad sectors were in /usr/local which had many missing files and directories. Modern disks die silently which I think is too bad. If this is happening and you have data you want to recover you might try booting in single user move and using fsck manually on each slice. If you are lucky, your errors will be in /tmp or /var. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 21:27:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5A11065673 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:27:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvidican@m2.vidican.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07238FC0A for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:27:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so934479wyb.13 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:27:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.38.20 with SMTP id z20mr1811139wea.108.1284586037266; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:27:17 -0700 (PDT) Sender: nvidican@m2.vidican.com Received: by 10.216.181.70 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:27:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [136.1.1.105] In-Reply-To: <4C911EC0.9000607@beatsnet.com> References: <201009152110.36850.wolfgang.riegler@gmx.de> <4C911EC0.9000607@beatsnet.com> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:27:17 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: UNTyPABWqj1855tgJyYvr8baKzI Message-ID: From: Nathan Vidican To: Beat Siegenthaler , wolfgang.riegler@gmx.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gateway_enable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:27:19 -0000 On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Beat Siegenthaler < beat.siegenthaler@beatsnet.com> wrote: > > > On 15.09.10 21:10, Wolfgang Riegler wrote: > > > > I thought gateway_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf should be sufficient. > But it doesn't work. Do I need something else? > > > > > > > Looks all ok. > But does 192.168.40.1 have a route to 192.168.50.0/24 via GW > 192.168.40.122? > > > > Internet: > > > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif > Expire > > > default 192.168.40.1 UGS 0 0 rl0 > > > 127.0.0.1 link#6 UH 0 0 lo0 > > > 192.168.40.0/24 link#2 U 1 274 rl0 > > > 192.168.40.122 link#2 UHS 0 0 lo0 > > > 192.168.50.0/24 link#1 U 0 15 re0 > > > 192.168.50.1 link#1 UHS 0 0 lo0 > > > > Gruss Beat > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > As Beat questioned, I suspect your company network (192.168.40.0/24) know that it must use your machine (192.168.50.122) as it's gateway to get to 192.168.50.0/24 ? In other words, it would appear you have one side of the equation correct but are missing the other side. Assuming the other gateway is the (single) default gateway for 192.168.40.0/24 - you should simply have to add a route on that router instructing it to use 192.168.40.122 (your ip) as the gateway to the other subnet you created as 192.168.50.0/24. NETWORK A -> use 192.168.50.1 as default gateway 192.168.50.1 == router == 192.168.40.122 NETWORK B -> use 192.168.40.1 as default gateway 192.168.40.1 == router -> add entry on this router to use 192.168.40.122 to get to 192.168.50.1 Unfortunately, without seeing the route table for both sides I can't be sure - but like I'd said and Beat had eluded to, I think your missing the instructions to the other side of the route. -- Nathan Vidican nathan@vidican.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 22:17:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AD7106564A for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:17:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnewman@networktest.com) Received: from mail3.networktest.com (mail3.networktest.com [69.55.234.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E6A8FC16 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:17:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [69.55.234.104]) by mail3.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5FC311F8FF; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3.networktest.com ([69.55.234.104]) by localhost (mail3.networktest.com [69.55.234.104]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 57179-04; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp207.eng.networktest.com (ns.networktest.com [216.240.60.130]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dnewman@networktest.com) by mail3.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4643B11F8CE; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C9145EB.90900@networktest.com> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:17:15 -0700 From: David Newman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <4C902D28.2040206@networktest.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jumbo frame support in bge(4) for BCM5704 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:17:18 -0000 On 9/14/10 7:43 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:19 PM, David Newman wrote: > >> 8.0-RELEASE amd64, Tyan S2882-D motherboard, Broadcom BCM5704C gigabit >> Ethernet transceivers >> >> Thanks in advance for any clues on enabling jumbos on this system. >> > > What happens if you boot from a linux live cd and try to enable frames > there? With Ubuntu 10.04, the system accepts "ifconfig eth1 mtu N" for any value of N up to 9000, and shows an MTU of N in response to 'ifconfig'. With 8.1-RELEASE (not 8.0 as stated before, sorry), the command 'ifconfig bge0 mtu 8000' produces an error: ifconfig: ioctl (set mtu): Invalid argument Same thing with 'mtu 1500', 'mtu 1400', etc. dn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 22:27:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02091065670; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:27:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf00.insightbb.com (mxsf00.insightbb.com [74.128.0.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2578FC17; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:27:22 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,373,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="909002266" Received: from unknown (HELO asav03.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf00.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 15 Sep 2010 18:27:05 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkAyAFDlkExKgCiCPGdsb2JhbACUFI1eDAEBAQE1LcdThUEEiUM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,373,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="162037095" Received: from 74-128-40-130.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.128.40.130]) by asavout03.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 15 Sep 2010 18:27:05 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:27:03 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.1; i386; ; ) References: <201009111442.49114.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <20100914003726.GA5762@freebsd.org> <1284568755.20540.634.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> In-Reply-To: <1284568755.20540.634.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009151827.04122.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Cc: Alexander Best Subject: Re: apropos returning same item twice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:27:22 -0000 On Wednesday 15 September 2010 12:39:15 pm Wayne Sierke wrote: > On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 00:37 +0000, Alexander Best wrote: > > On Sat Sep 11 10, Steven Friedrich wrote: > > > Why does apropos list mysql(1) twice? > > > > > > It doesn't return duplicates with apropos kde... > > > > maybe you have a gzip'ed and plain version in /usr ? > > > > see PR #4419. > > > > cheers. > > alex > > Are you certain that /etc/manpath.config doesn't just still > have /usr/X11R6/man configured (as well as /usr/local/man)? Admittedly > the kde issue is a mystery, assuming its manpages are installed > in /usr/local/man. This system has the following: > > OPTIONAL_MANPATH /usr/local/man > # (disabled by xorg-libraries port) OPTIONAL_MANPATH /usr/X11R6/man > > MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin /usr/local/man > # (disabled by xorg-libraries port) > MANPATH_MAP /usr/X11R6/bin /usr/X11R6/man > > > Is the whatis file being updated? Check the timestamp: > > # ls -l /usr/local/man/whatis > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 273178 Sep 11 04:22 /usr/local/man/whatis > > > Wayne > > > > admin@laptop2(/dev/pts/1)/usr/home/admin 106% apropos mysql > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I still have X11R6 in usr symlinked to /usr/local. This was done per entry 20070519 in /usr/ports/UPDATING. Do we still need this symlink? -- System Name: laptop2.StevenFriedrich.org Hardware: 2.80GHz Intel Pentium 4 (HTT) with 2 GB memory OS version: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE i386 (6.9 MB kernel) manager(s): kde4-4.5.1 X windows: xorg-7.5 X.Org X Server 1.7.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 22:35:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062901065670 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rbyrnes@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B068FC1E for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:35:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz15 with SMTP id 15so1300891bwz.13 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:35:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=X7vrDAErqmVaa0r5gO2Atqii+wTQ3zZYtrxy91fkP1k=; b=SKn/GtoUfu8AHDPKKLanZgPSacrnJJ4Cd/57Fsth00gueRcGQ75Cv0VoTr8Z1AwIFk eTTrWpZ2IRQT8MbXkVKAKnm/AKNtoK2f+7B/dWKHHwn0ytKXRCBsBye8wAw8VuUIrg/f TDH+8ZrAXiOeOk9tn1o/hQxJnNS5vrCKBrLbg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oPNYYA5s7lyjwzzjbZlgit5K+PG+FDIygdgOUIPFAVQHeReyKulnGxHBNMtzDoBt5U En0Vq3QaJfmvKPmc+B2mHGta5iAz9Z2heU+gQF1mJJ/BADlSO5XXs1p6cZYb4pYG7NGU hikdszYbTxtBU/cdTwHShqkWezmPbpsCbolss= Received: by 10.239.144.131 with SMTP id o3mr162895hba.90.1284590112109; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:35:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.181.68 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:34:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <985459.58603.qm@web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <985459.58603.qm@web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: Rob Byrnes Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:34:52 +1000 Message-ID: To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CPU temp munin plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:35:14 -0000 2010/9/15 D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 : > Hi, > > What plugin do you use in munin to get values of your CPU? There are several, and some have dependencies on other software - what cpu are you using? Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 23:15:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B95E1065670 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:15:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rbyrnes@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF428FC08 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:15:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz15 with SMTP id 15so1340002bwz.13 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:15:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1QN1HwYRwDeFizNwjnFurguEswkbkz/kEkGADjZ2tbE=; b=HKPmwGXLshYJaCN51JDdxNl/YFf6Fy4TLMFG9Zz7CLOgoEnEIsf6G0KQl44mAF2ftc CsKOC1uV50oUdslNeZok8oQVaCw9itT6CVy4ONWe3sEBe5QqRkoETsPwlpyRE/NsI/Yd JaB5qrjxB3UYqnX87cg0WvT0T+B3Ybz0O97QI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CHgNk5XvU1va0L7vcYnIWUlI4YdHywzCl4BYJbgXV5WGBhBjtgRiDjpTLwRmSER4LI sKNQVPeFcPHkO9Nz1gFz/laRXICJ+Tjf0YYpIcOvpyZa38KF3PlU8Fb6yod83gVKmcPm lz4aXh2gh5KJcV/YZSaBivsnbo0GvyjtN/1r4= Received: by 10.239.132.71 with SMTP id 7mr75969hbq.182.1284592554197; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:15:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.181.68 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:15:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C907918.7090609@gmail.com> References: <4C907918.7090609@gmail.com> From: Rob Byrnes Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:15:34 +1000 Message-ID: To: Gholam Mostafa Faridi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: virtaullBox AMD64 32bit lib X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:15:56 -0000 On 15 September 2010 17:43, Gholam Mostafa Faridi wrote: > I want install virtualBox on AMD 64 and I use FreeBSD 8.1 and I have SRC > directory , but when I run make install clean I see this error > " Requires 32-bit libraries installed under /usr/lib32. > Do: cd /usr/src; make build32 install32; ldconfig -v -m -R /usr/lib32 " > and I run this command > "cd /usr/src; make build32 install32; ldconfig -v -m -R /usr/lib32" > =A0and after minutes I see this error > > "=3D=3D=3D> gnu/lib/csu (obj,depend,all,install) > sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -o root -g wheel -m 444 =A0crtbegin.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32/crtbegin.o > sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -o root -g wheel -m 444 =A0crtend.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32/crtend.o > sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -o root -g wheel -m 444 =A0crtbeginT.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32/crtbeginT.o > sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -o root -g wheel -m 444 =A0crtbegin.So > /usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32/crtbeginS.o > sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -o root -g wheel -m 444 =A0crtend.So > /usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32/crtendS.o > =3D=3D=3D> lib/csu/i386-elf (obj,depend,all,install) > ld -m elf_i386_fbsd -Y P,/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32 =A0-o gcrt1.o -= r > crt1_s.o gcrt1_c.o > ld: Relocatable linking with relocations from format elf64-x86-64 > (gcrt1_c.o) to format elf32-i386-freebsd (gcrt1.o) is not supported > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib32: No such file or directory " > > I make post about this error in =A0freebsdforums but they can not help me > please see link > > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D17607 > > they said problem is ccache and I disable and remove ccache =A0,but still= I > have that probelm > please help me I had a similar problem, and removing the contents of /usr/obj and then rebuilding world (cvsup'ed as of 15/09) with make -DNO_CCACHE seemed to work. This was on a real AMD64 machine too. Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 05:13:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5469F106566C for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 05:13:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9498FC19 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 05:13:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz15 with SMTP id 15so1604481bwz.13 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:13:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XhRK3grcdAbrPVGxFcWA/YvRfzvYP2mHgZIzDCGv3yo=; b=EVVG2eaklpX/eG6Dywjao2IJPjvNOGtTaW0vKjT7YfNPQ5AEosacKDqDmwBfHj87/z 9EqRsDKsyaMmb64izpkFrDAWwbJW6FQBnrsV16PGgPUMonY6b/t/KuG8a4OftzOI2xJx /lN3HnO01g0KrjTV5DfTANd3M8LptBUp8sxA4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=YCVZBx79YU85LrRGFgOFfUapz45WhssEGHrnnwpNyMXPp8tPDGHpfvDysUVwka8LSh YWvGBZUQsaKXIi4A6iSWE6EcWa4RwAA28zKRsSOf+gpd6ZdFMZ/OTILsqOyzMAJ1/3Iu nTsNwFMSFtgo1OXh4sYBLZ3ItXcbxHvqTJApI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.82.18 with SMTP id z18mr2090154bkk.125.1284614027549; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.80.167 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:13:47 +0200 Message-ID: From: David DEMELIER To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: make buildkernel pre-build too long X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 05:13:49 -0000 Hi there, I can't understand why this part of make buildkernel is so long on my amd64 machine (8.1-R) make -V CFILES -V SYSTEM_CFILES -V GEN_CFILES | MKDEP_CPP="cc -E" CC="cc" xargs mkdep -a -f .newdep -O2 -frename-registers -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/pf -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ngatm -I/usr/src/sys/dev/twa -I/usr/src/sys/gnu/fs/xfs/FreeBSD -I/usr/src/sys/gnu/fs/xfs/FreeBSD/support -I/usr/src/sys/gnu/fs/xfs -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/opensolaris/compat -I/usr/src/sys/dev/cxgb -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -fstack-protector This command takes around 5-6 minutes before continuing, on my i386 machine (which is really old) it only takes about 20 seconds. The kernel configs are almost the same for both machines. Do you have any idea? Kind regards, -- Demelier David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 07:12:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B6D1065672 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:12:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from indexer@internode.on.net) Received: from mail.internode.on.net (bld-mail12.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE168FC08 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from staff-250-90.wireless.adelaide.edu.au (unverified [129.127.250.90]) by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id 39261555-1927428 for multiple; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:03:46 +0930 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: Indexer In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:03:41 +0930 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9F9B3D46-8B7E-4C38-9459-59909F0D2672@internode.on.net> References: To: Jud X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.2.3 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: FBSD? Subject: Re: So I've Been Wondering... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:12:10 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 What model of MBP do you have? If it is a dual GFX card model, your in = for a world of pain. On 16/09/2010, at 5:37 AM, Jud wrote: > Thinking of installing FreeBSD with ZFS root on my MacBook Pro as dual = boot, possibly treble with Win7. What's the best way to do this - Boot = Camp, then follow FreeBSD Wiki? >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Jud >=20 > --=20 > "I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day." = =E2=80=94 Douglas Adams > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" William Brown pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMkbpIAAoJEHF16AnLoz6Ja20P/RBoHgNeHBLaCPCz1x70i7zr lc58inPScJHTc+RDfL+Ey7ANyJFVRn+3u8kVXq28auSajUGiGyrdK0AgCWFkGwDF mSCQwfcqdL3Z5mgHWYSG2MUQYczMnRH72gAMJhTnTTvcaGUBndUOXq+B9ELBOcpN MueoqMg6kmEwieo5ueQTGEwE34Ffg/cRSDo0tfKXtlA2drfL/PDjwNDAbZxOtNHi ozcsEjXWhwhs73HTCi5GbDYfc5JOzlelOuuhKvuUZPmpDVTRyyjCey02h1ke3uDP UfxMTUHDk36BXuOX86KEhSGVYJ6sYanAk2T7nSlM31fFO8Y3HDx5AT5zEKgdegrE KefsNVwxITQ3OkDK+92BTbYvsrwNsCGXaqOLX495AFu6fVCL5O3r5IzVS9N7GIgr mFTFzbbpN4ykoUOft03dvT4r1azoOfeeBHfSLfbwlsjqRhw5OPqQAo8xxrSOZWlh GcFJFhYeuriluv+rOacGIFhGksZKRMsG4lfTpn+iWcHU46dpImVoHCG0/i+LlXoA 7sffuEXKXBKwZ6RXexsZ/6Z4ieqV2CzB15Haa4OEKqJm2z636cmO8VMn07EXSsYK JuxvYneEHqaTdXw4eKS5q9K23Y14l0s6pAXqe1ePoYxnB44qT1tCrRkrO8zS1LQG XGRdjQm0RMsAE+l4kiVA =3DO5Dc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 07:49:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A875E1065670 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:49:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C348FC08 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:49:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb31 with SMTP id 31so476316wwb.1 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:49:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eyihtnl4sOyFFPGd5mtdyXBRQH9d6/Unnm/iHFF2HzY=; b=LkBMqwgw7gkqwB6Zy6C/VJ6OJU7SyJHRuwySzx5Oz4ylH0l8tHIsNLULiIIxeZIZ9H QIsQUgRsoaRt2pcmGoeTGG3BLIE601LK0CmX1PECrfjrXm0y7YG5rYa6JHS+DDhELZKZ 3UVqXuaTQaB75yfX34gTfl2R6XYYx6wdTcWSA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=vFNuIm0SBaor3BYSReDWVZv36dMp0VDcJ5n/IqKK35iwKDBGsDZUIa3cnOKDcfrtwK gMXBHxM14Uzgjzt4OuCfnSCvMQ/ieapCohq9K67BnulMapA7st0RdNh66dJwcjjW1drI OE7+mAPXyavmMDRPlP9YIiU6AMLa1RAc+k2HU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.72.213 with SMTP id n21mr2398616wbj.66.1284621488051; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.137.133 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:18:07 -0600 Message-ID: From: Modulok To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:49:19 -0000 List, I have an old box I want to turn into a file server backup machine. Unfortunately, the mainboard has only PATA headers. I do have three PCI slots though, so I was looking at a PCI SATA controller card that will get along with FreeBSD without a fuss. Nothing fancy, just something inexpensive that I can plug a few SATA drives into. Then I'll create a graid3 with them, or mess around with ZFS. Anyone using something worth a recommendation? Thanks! -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 08:12:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FB2106564A for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BFBA8FC0C for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:12:48 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAKdukUyWZWdv/2dsb2JhbAAH5HGFQQSESIR7 Received: from ppp103-111.static.internode.on.net (HELO [192.168.1.144]) ([150.101.103.111]) by ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 16 Sep 2010 17:42:46 +0930 From: Wayne Sierke To: Steven Friedrich In-Reply-To: <201009151827.04122.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> References: <201009111442.49114.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <20100914003726.GA5762@freebsd.org> <1284568755.20540.634.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> <201009151827.04122.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ASCII" Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:42:44 +0930 Message-ID: <1284624764.20540.650.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Alexander Best , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apropos returning same item twice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:12:49 -0000 On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 18:27 -0400, Steven Friedrich wrote: > On Wednesday 15 September 2010 12:39:15 pm Wayne Sierke wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 00:37 +0000, Alexander Best wrote: > > > On Sat Sep 11 10, Steven Friedrich wrote: > > > > Why does apropos list mysql(1) twice? > > > > > > > > It doesn't return duplicates with apropos kde... > > > > > > maybe you have a gzip'ed and plain version in /usr ? > > > > > > see PR #4419. > > > > > > cheers. > > > alex > > > > Are you certain that /etc/manpath.config doesn't just still > > have /usr/X11R6/man configured (as well as /usr/local/man)? Admittedly > > the kde issue is a mystery, assuming its manpages are installed > > in /usr/local/man. This system has the following: > > > > OPTIONAL_MANPATH /usr/local/man > > # (disabled by xorg-libraries port) OPTIONAL_MANPATH /usr/X11R6/man > > > > MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin /usr/local/man > > # (disabled by xorg-libraries port) > > MANPATH_MAP /usr/X11R6/bin /usr/X11R6/man > > > > > > Is the whatis file being updated? Check the timestamp: > > > > # ls -l /usr/local/man/whatis > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 273178 Sep 11 04:22 /usr/local/man/whatis > > > > > > Wayne > > > > > > admin@laptop2(/dev/pts/1)/usr/home/admin 106% apropos mysql > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I still have X11R6 in usr symlinked to /usr/local. This was done per entry > 20070519 in /usr/ports/UPDATING. > > Do we still need this symlink? Yes, anything that references /usr/X11R6 gets directed to /usr/local. Did you check /etc/manpath.config and the timestamp on /usr/local/man/whatis? Another check is that the output of manpath(1) doesn't include /usr/X11R6/man. Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 08:35:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB08B1065670 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:35:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621E68FC1B for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:35:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so1473269wyb.13 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:35:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2QMmf+0iIMaQ5TSTNAClcBLEbxVDjL/KMR29DCgYEWw=; b=gg1wmSCnA5zZdveIxY4hsi2e68Qx29c/apj7J/nqV5La5UmVqxsQZ/LFQu39K6s/zl PkKqk6BXTfiR5Wfp7s5lnEi+T7ZKshPbxweXXXwCnInW13ZDjtPnTqx7ed2tPEbyLdk0 YbmkZ0JNf3v1wtdItr+/un3UuY+hEsjq+mOz0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=R+PKvA7Pm3AxYYFUm2zIk6hI2OOI2O6nu4TxM9od8ARGMd1U8AfLtmyX4c3vR41mSI s4Re1agRmrjIgQ8ZqFjGcDwrb1McfUvcXiKGpTlupmpfrlqRxFDxK5QnvACGXkrLdSgC ArFzRdZhjjvZ0MqgxmlzHA7tnD9tIlCFi02Jo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.17.135 with SMTP id j7mr2338397wej.97.1284626116309; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.38.129 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:35:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:35:16 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: Modulok , FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:35:17 -0000 I have SiI 3512 SATA150 controller and it works ok From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 08:46:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B8A106564A for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:46:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from queueout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (queueout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325FB8FC18 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:46:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.1]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20100916080520.KEWO3075.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:05:20 +0100 Received: from [86.27.35.5] (helo=unknown) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ow9T6-0004tm-41; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:05:20 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:05:05 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Modulok Message-ID: <20100916090505.00005180@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=DhNl2YeytwJssBBGe49HJX82LNDFEEVkpVB34RXKaPo= c=1 sm=0 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=fcBQQIRXd1aXx_4xyVQA:9 a=J8vUm2Kj6LABJ5ZpaxgA:7 a=IBgYfbyUzRjJb5daH7dJl8hOwLYA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:46:16 -0000 On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:18:07 -0600 Modulok wrote: > I have an old box I want to turn into a file server backup machine. > Unfortunately, the mainboard has only PATA headers. I do have three > PCI slots though, so I was looking at a PCI SATA controller card that > will get along with FreeBSD without a fuss. Nothing fancy, just > something inexpensive that I can plug a few SATA drives into. Then > I'll create a graid3 with them, or mess around with ZFS. Anyone using > something worth a recommendation? The only recommendation I have is not to get a Silicon Image (Sil) based card - they're cheap but don't work well. -- Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 08:57:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB0D106564A for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:57:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5EF48FC12 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:57:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi17 with SMTP id 17so44848wwi.31 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:57:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KkKRPamvHnkhVijSyBrZxL5aMvSbOLU2l40gVGf5wLk=; b=PZCyyANbvR/SgDGlKR2MA5NZUqJ98YHtP1A4KAZ73CdgTwRO4GaUAA6AE/eeAx/Fcl sbLf/+KNoiTHTYuxI+wZEAZPYIfNHALcScRuB9v+poqQPXLcvv/ptvp6gl6y5ddZUKZu L0iz3PgMYpRo1RzrhYCw6dEYw9wkm7CffLtp4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DVZyT9un68udnB5fJtV5VJcvfNZoDVRT5TQF0v8KB9cp1aqG4Fk7yUGeOm5+QyQHOt hjfOzDAgGJDsSpJgCNPg4p/e0xDNoLU6YcNmpJM4eXUNK9iKLVOCy4lZ93VGfEdX8iUL Gw1ANKv5cRv2i/9Zima4uEnnwDHBt8YVjAksw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.23.129 with SMTP id v1mr6368134wev.49.1284627427844; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.38.129 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:57:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100916090505.00005180@unknown> References: <20100916090505.00005180@unknown> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:57:07 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: Bruce Cran , FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:57:09 -0000 Bruce, Can you elaborate on that pls ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 10:01:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7151065672 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:01:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B8D8FC08 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:01:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.2]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20100916100145.MOIO3192.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:01:45 +0100 Received: from [86.27.35.5] (helo=unknown) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OwBHk-000648-Rm; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:01:44 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:01:30 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: claudiu vasadi Message-ID: <20100916110130.000021e1@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: <20100916090505.00005180@unknown> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=DhNl2YeytwJssBBGe49HJX82LNDFEEVkpVB34RXKaPo= c=1 sm=0 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=wFaEK3txAAAA:8 a=o1rluHeAAAAA:8 a=BoTDNKqGY7ebnAZzNBAA:9 a=IvV8SYdBNt5BoddyrJbAsWkXsNEA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ZpG9q8mGLFwA:10 a=0LVquqEu5c0A:10 a=MeJowC1oy5MA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:01:51 -0000 On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:57:07 +0200 claudiu vasadi wrote: > Can you elaborate on that pls ? Silicon Image controllers have a bad reputation - see http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/current/2004-03/0955.html and http://osdir.com/ml/os.freebsd.devel.hardware/2005-10/msg00048.html for example. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 10:23:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5121065673 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:23:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9BE48FC16 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:23:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwd20 with SMTP id 20so17288wwd.1 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 03:23:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sSTtN0u9CnEXm21GkMY9Sk/DDUQF9+bg6AmJkCFjmCo=; b=ZTvxZlFKI2W5p0mIZdI54Ii6JGgB6FUA1qetUMoeTuS4NyFwqN1lZFNcMK0iME3fOn Njp7Tg3ETNJxnWQJJ7KZovnC/dRM3yq8tsuktwuXYfjNYd0CWmbusvqMaq6/vsggGXc9 rp421LNvlVsQ5CeXcBY+BuK06hY6+jlANfh0E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BhrpaeMwg5vWxQStTCcdvifaZlvnCWzOWul+PB2qZlB05Wd5FfwoFQg3p8N1Hgnnii vsZSRrY3hCGATV81P5rbj4B6cqu5DZh53OIXUUHZ+/6MIwsWfyGSv0tSiEzFx32BoGsh /wXMta3WmL0O6HgF3FsV3ZrUs1lSHKLqMVAWM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.6.149 with SMTP id 21mr6428535wen.101.1284632616817; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 03:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.38.129 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 03:23:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100916110130.000021e1@unknown> References: <20100916090505.00005180@unknown> <20100916110130.000021e1@unknown> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:23:36 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: Bruce Cran , FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:23:38 -0000 perhaps, but I reached speeds of up to 51MB constant write with it. what s-ata1 controller would you recommend in this case ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 10:36:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BF5106564A for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:36:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93CB8FC15 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.2]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20100916103622.PZBD3075.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:36:22 +0100 Received: from [86.27.35.5] (helo=unknown) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OwBpG-000087-IY; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:36:22 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:36:07 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: claudiu vasadi Message-ID: <20100916113607.00002212@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: <20100916090505.00005180@unknown> <20100916110130.000021e1@unknown> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=DhNl2YeytwJssBBGe49HJX82LNDFEEVkpVB34RXKaPo= c=1 sm=0 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=NN3jeVC4hXVnAaDzcKwA:9 a=f_yeKnXSKYkGV79n0WYrs50eZ-AA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:36:28 -0000 On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:23:36 +0200 claudiu vasadi wrote: > what s-ata1 controller would you recommend in this case ? I don't know, I've just heard that the Sil adapters have a bad reputation, including for data corruption. Things may have improved in the 5 years since though. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 06:03:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D87106564A for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 06:03:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=8688045c1=srividya.k@tcs.com) Received: from InChnG02.tcs.com (InChnG02.tcs.com [122.184.60.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604248FC1D for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 06:03:12 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,375,1280687400"; d="scan'208";a="28461441" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KeepSent: FD2FA405:B9FFF4FB-652577A0:00201A77; type=4; name=$KeepSent X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.0.1 February 07, 2008 Message-ID: From: srividya.k@tcs.com Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:23:04 +0530 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on InChnM22/TCS(Release 8.0.2HF1089 | June 2, 2009) at 09/16/2010 11:23:05, Serialize complete at 09/16/2010 11:23:05 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:08:31 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Support for AIX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 06:03:14 -0000 Hi Is BSD compatible with AIX unix system?( AIX version 6). We require the make utility of BSD to compile few source programs? Is there any make utility compatible with AIX? Could you please give us the URL where we can get the same? Srividya K Tata Consultancy Services Mailto: srividya.k@tcs.com Website: http://www.tcs.com =====-----=====-----===== Notice: The information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 06:59:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9F6106566C for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 06:59:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=8688045c1=srividya.k@tcs.com) Received: from InChnG02.tcs.com (InChnG02.tcs.com [122.184.60.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A7C8FC12 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 06:59:02 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,375,1280687400"; d="scan'208";a="28472064" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KeepSent: 66948B23:1E4881FC-652577A0:0026454D; type=4; name=$KeepSent X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.0.1 February 07, 2008 Message-ID: From: srividya.k@tcs.com Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:28:58 +0530 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on InChnM22/TCS(Release 8.0.2HF1089 | June 2, 2009) at 09/16/2010 12:28:59, Serialize complete at 09/16/2010 12:28:59 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:14:28 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Need bsd make for AIX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 06:59:03 -0000 Hi Is there any BSD make versions available for AIX platform? 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Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 09:55:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C90106564A for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:55:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E0DC8FC17 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 80870 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Sep 2010 09:55:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1284630952; bh=I/+QsOtH9qSZHBCwXgWNhlhAsZvD+E4pOWPC7f5E6mc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4vUMrMdoPpUsiks7lE9SEUdsnXv0K7Oy30g8xK29Pd/NWTr6qV5Ybdkabr9r1Dfz/213RVNgRDonkeWy0XbwK8bGLVtmPQ27eWzRMLpxyztUo6pwt2oFuNAIYOs8GwfqbFT049piiGZilOegHlyXWnprMTwyNly1u84T8mGmVNg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=z2MfodrV7Gh85k5PjJ+bGJDyKW9sg9mHyxJcnyuX37D0qe4A3xQ/vH2UwbCVEabc8PXBVBhsGUcMnuPmN5FiK3FcMS7oxofgpXDdbWPiD5TcfcVaFQRKMgDRTKbHVK+ydPKBv5C4I5RtooEG/rdoB948GZITTQkpL/fqLV+yvRU=; Message-ID: <898036.79182.qm@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: oZ0ZuyYVM1nJwV3tUOg1jKhSauQ8aEayLhIfBBbSUOci75Z ruZJd4hWEd.gNkryzUqaNCobSD_t5F8yqp94f5XV3898ZXFbb7IZOJdJRU94 soRo6jZTGvER1ifKPgonAGkiGWHsr.gbgPfy0iUe7RYYrELUpMhsqV09ci9V QWfgqJSugyNZFpsK5BYj.YmH3_vcBb2_YygX2iFxPJ_yYgBEiLa7lH7o5q3V uIWxyQX1jBtGPHDnNo0bbqt5TfWfoGF2BGXpmBP_rSvtZFavLxq7EwncnK0R tx.gFpnUYuWWQiuPDrvaP2IbVc9B1hau_5XpSp37Fw7ce13i294c7_lCD_Ru IGA-- Received: from [94.21.228.238] by web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 02:55:52 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/470 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 References: <985459.58603.qm@web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 02:55:52 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: Rob Byrnes In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:14:50 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CPU temp munin plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:55:53 -0000 Actually I found that mbmon is quite great app. It just needed some =0Acofi= gurations and now is working.=0A=0ALaci=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________= ________=0AFrom: Rob Byrnes =0ATo: D=E1nielisz L=E1szl= =F3 =0ACc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent= : Thu, September 16, 2010 12:34:52 AM=0ASubject: Re: CPU temp munin plugin= =0A=0A2010/9/15 D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 :=0A> Hi= ,=0A>=0A> What plugin do you use in munin to get values of your CPU?=0A=0AT= here are several, and some have dependencies on other software - what=0Acpu= are you using?=0A=0ARob=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 11:40:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E941065694 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:40:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=8688045c1=srividya.k@tcs.com) Received: from InChnG02.tcs.com (InChnG02.tcs.com [122.184.60.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01698FC21 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:40:29 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,376,1280687400"; d="scan'208";a="28514119" X-DISCLAIMER: FALSE In-Reply-To: References: To: Masoom Shaikh MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KeepSent: 5F8B010F:E1E72153-652577A0:003FFBF0; type=4; name=$KeepSent X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.0.1 February 07, 2008 Message-ID: From: srividya.k@tcs.com Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:10:24 +0530 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on InChnM22/TCS(Release 8.0.2HF1089 | June 2, 2009) at 09/16/2010 17:10:26, Serialize complete at 09/16/2010 17:10:26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need bsd make for AIX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:40:31 -0000 We have some open source code for RPC calls - DCE that has c programs and corresponding makefiles. When we tried gmake or make ( AIX make) , we were getting syntax errors. We found that all the makefiles had syntax that corresponds to makeutility of BSD? Do you have any alternative? Is there any BSD make utility that can be installed in AIX machine? Srividya K Tata Consultancy Services Mailto: srividya.k@tcs.com Website: http://www.tcs.com ____________________________________________ Experience certainty. IT Services Business Solutions Outsourcing ____________________________________________ From: Masoom Shaikh To: srividya.k@tcs.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: 09/16/2010 05:04 PM Subject: Re: Need bsd make for AIX On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:58 AM, wrote: > Hi > Is there any BSD make versions available for AIX platform? > We require the make utility of BSD to compile few source programs. > > Is there any make utility compatible with AIX? Could you please give us > the URL where we can get the same? > > > > Srividya K > Tata Consultancy Services > Mailto: srividya.k@tcs.com > Website: http://www.tcs.com > > Srividya K > Tata Consultancy Services > Mailto: srividya.k@tcs.com > Website: http://www.tcs.com > ____________________________________________ > Experience certainty. IT Services > Business Solutions > Outsourcing > ____________________________________________ > =====-----=====-----===== > Notice: The information contained in this e-mail > message and/or attachments to it may contain > confidential or privileged information. If you are > not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, > review, distribution, printing or copying of the > information contained in this e-mail message > and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If > you have received this communication in error, > please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and > immediately and permanently delete the message > and any attachments. 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Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 11:56:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738141065673 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:56:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3061D8FC0A for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-147.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.147]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA1D1E769 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:55:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8GBtvb5001467 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:55:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:55:57 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20100916135557.e5cb35b7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4C906AB2.3030004@rawbw.com> <20100915121018.a3a1f275.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How to prevent system to launch interactive fsck after improper shutdown and reboot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:56:01 -0000 On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:11:30 -0400 (EDT), doug@safeport.com wrote: > I have had two systems die with bad disks. Personally, I never had trouble with bad disks, but with defective file systems (origin unknown), and follow-up trouble caused by background fsck that prevented me many years from accessing my data. Going the "old fashioned" way brought everything back. Long story short: A present .snapshot from the 1st background fsck (which was introduced as default in 5.0, as far as I remember) caused fsck from working as expected; after removing this file, I got all the missing data back. Luckily, the problem didn't seem to be related to actual disk failure, as SMART data didn't give a hint about that. I did work with a 1:1 dd copy anyway. > Modern disks die silently which I think is too bad. You usally see messages in dmesg / console that indicate disk trouble. In mos cases, those messages say that the disk is already dying - it's too late for "repair". So time for backup and replacement. Seems that this is the result of continuing bigger and cheaper disks... > If this is > happening and you have data you want to recover you > might try booting in single user move and using fsck > manually on each slice. The fsck program operates on partitions, not on slices. Terminology, dear Watson. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 12:05:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF70110657A8 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:05:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F618FC19 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz15 with SMTP id 15so1886064bwz.13 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 05:05:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MIcH0vYl8XAcQS9Q47lt8WDyMK01sSnHcjLNRQDdmTI=; b=gO5Yb/WtwdHDZ6ZvggCkp4KxasnbhCSOePOKWSaoIT8o8eWvyudv5i8F+VlVqhG7yc vE+rVEswd6BfAZ+RJJXDr14ZLtNgR0CgQIu4wbAOt0tjUTmW0CDRhhCYv3tNFVc8FNkL cKTePyQrRQ5B9afGeuVb2Koppx5jRRjvvMWlg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GOBrFP4fyoi8cd622E86rayx9j5FJ08zlIThV4YVpZUvLuoEcDR11TGcfPsPe7ujJ6 ZTEKzSc7GAnd/2XcsnVIt4qTXkbM11vn/obUjIXSL6QNeWz6hkNl0lAcNIbj16lHO2yF aTXM1ckX9+GM5TEhnpqVy+XxRLJv0ZuDF8Anw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.108.212 with SMTP id g20mr1220250fap.47.1284636833228; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 04:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.116.142 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 04:33:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:33:53 +0200 Message-ID: From: Masoom Shaikh To: srividya.k@tcs.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need bsd make for AIX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:05:10 -0000 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:58 AM, wrote: > Hi > =A0 =A0Is there any BSD make versions available for AIX platform? > We require the make utility of BSD to compile few source programs. > > Is there any make utility compatible with AIX? =A0Could you please give u= s > the URL where we can get the same? > > > > Srividya K > Tata Consultancy Services > Mailto: srividya.k@tcs.com > Website: http://www.tcs.com > > Srividya K > Tata Consultancy Services > Mailto: srividya.k@tcs.com > Website: http://www.tcs.com > ____________________________________________ > Experience certainty. =A0 IT Services > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Business Solutions > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Outsourcing > ____________________________________________ > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D-----=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D-----=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Notice: The information contained in this e-mail > message and/or attachments to it may contain > confidential or privileged information. If you are > not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, > review, distribution, printing or copying of the > information contained in this e-mail message > and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If > you have received this communication in error, > please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and > immediately and permanently delete the message > and any attachments. Thank you > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > u can always GNU make http://www.gnu.org/software/make/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 12:42:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CEB41065674 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:42:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesbrandongooch@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB188FC27 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:42:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi17 with SMTP id 17so259996wwi.31 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 05:42:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=BsUeLlUMzTG15GO5MakHBtvAVa3yqGdY7EtMNVQ/DnA=; b=BkU5A1ljoarqBcOZq1ZPT0tor9c43z2CtWvWJiFlUxRNg2QHzwQ0ps2YU3CUCwHYTV 1OjXHMQDeqtyGDVjI1tHQPm+CEkRg66t3mAspVmgWQwhwi89HWhuku8gSy8Oi7NVSbkQ CIQld/rkkBYcFy80yknS2VtvOQWa3cLQxJnbw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=r8qtqeq0VcORHslEBFmL+xjfNrA71e3ac+JfTti6NHJAvXlVQz2PJU+P5Phx/Rj6Mg xBfwoOmbIb/3kW3KJWdhs0StaSbgAU7ZsPILPnlx3rmpU9mKZr1+vjHAtGyWjBfFxeDp AO5Hyt3WcACArlpiQFOQpdWvZ6KpLBTolf+nk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.128.19 with SMTP id i19mr2694180wbs.104.1284639472737; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 05:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.133.2 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 05:17:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100916113607.00002212@unknown> References: <20100916090505.00005180@unknown> <20100916110130.000021e1@unknown> <20100916113607.00002212@unknown> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:17:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: Brandon Gooch To: Bruce Cran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD , claudiu vasadi Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:42:05 -0000 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:23:36 +0200 > claudiu vasadi wrote: > >> what s-ata1 controller would you recommend in this case ? > > I don't know, I've just heard that the Sil adapters have a bad > reputation, including for data corruption. Things may have improved in > the 5 years since though. I can chime in here -- I've gone through two SiI 3114s (Rosewill RC-209s). Fortunately for me, the system wasn't critical and the cards failed at reboots -- and I had spares :) The upside is, if you're using ZFS, data corruption may not be an issue. Also, did we mention that the cards are CHEAP? Like, bottled water cheap. On the other hand, I've read of "higher end" Rosewill (presumably also SiI) cards performing admirably, and for extended periods. Luck of the draw, I suppose... 2 cents, Brandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 12:55:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14C21065693 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:55:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612AC8FC18 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:55:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi17 with SMTP id 17so276720wwi.31 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 05:55:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.233.163 with SMTP id p35mr6572157weq.98.1284641757978; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 05:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.216.28.143 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 05:55:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:55:57 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: z-WT6UrMijU1Wv8XFpvIyr4GxKE Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Support for AIX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:55:59 -0000 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:53 AM, wrote: > Hi > =A0 =A0 Is BSD compatible with AIX unix system?( AIX version 6). > We require the make utility of BSD to compile few source programs? > First. This list is for support of ___FreeBSD___, the operating system, although many people that _use_ FBSD actually come to this list for help on all sorts of things, but I doubt many would be eager to support a component of BSD to help with a problem in AIX. I suspect lot of them in fact, would probably feel contempt or a deep repugnance towards any sort of proprietary operating system. Second. The subject of your mail and the questions themselves are not very helpful. Perhaps if they were more technical or specific, there might be a ___BSD Make___ expert who would have some compassion to help with a problem on AIX. Of course, the subject and questions would have to be asked in a smart way. This might help: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Thirdly. Besides structural, technical, philosophical and political reasons[1], many of which you will realize after reading the document above, you will find that is expected that you do your homework first, (i.e STFW and RTMF first, __before___ you post a question in an open source list). Just by typing "bsd make" in Google, I found this link, that will probably help you quite a bit with your problem: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-April/147533.html > Is there any make utility compatible with AIX? =A0Could you please give u= s > the URL where we can get the same? > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/nutshell.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-hardware.= html Cheers, Alejandro Imass > > > Srividya K > Tata Consultancy Services > Mailto: srividya.k@tcs.com > Website: http://www.tcs.com > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D-----=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D-----=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 13:37:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34642106566C for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:37:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from mx.utwente.nl (mx2.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF3D8FC13 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:37:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pieter-dev.localnet (lux.student.utwente.nl [130.89.161.112]) by mx.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id o8GDbbfE030734; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:37:37 +0200 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:27:50 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.32-5-amd64; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <4C907918.7090609@gmail.com> <4C90D141.9060603@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C90D141.9060603@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009161527.50430.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. 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X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Gholam Mostafa Faridi , freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, Edho P Arief Subject: Re: virtaullBox AMD64 32bit lib X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:37:46 -0000 On Wednesday 15 September 2010 15:59:29 Gholam Mostafa Faridi wrote: > On 09/15/2010 13:00, Edho P Arief wrote: > > sh install.sh > > I download all file and go to download directory and run that command , > for first time I do not see error and do not see messages , but when I > run that sh install.sh again I see this error > > "mfaridipc# sh install.sh > > ./usr/lib32/libc.so.7: Could not unlink > ./usr/lib32/libcrypt.so.5: Could not unlink > ./usr/lib32/librt.so.1: Could not unlink > ./usr/lib32/libthr.so.3: Could not unlink > ./libexec/ld-elf32.so.1: Could not unlink > tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors." > > and problem do not solve These files have the schg flag set (see chflags(1)). This means the files are immutable. Try removing the schg flag first: # chflags noschg /usr/lib32/libc.so.7 - Pieter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 14:02:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A7C1065698; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mostafafaridi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7118FC17; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:02:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi17 with SMTP id 17so372164wwi.31 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:02:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jRoA36guqSglb3GCYSHWKSlIgdluAG38zk32zJRVT8A=; b=MTZmE6bl07q6i9RtpIu4VNk8G5lV0mHki9KSsGH2y9YcTLx6OVgp3Ad7/Y9XvKfjn2 fMR0g1jhYD5vhoyiE64Osm/Bwd73zK7dwIjzShNqAw61nMA9RgFOTBdYIeL55S+vnCfi yZ9uv2MewOC6ArawGhJc6a3heVLFjXagVMMHQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=a4qgkxnHci98OiE6mI7R8ht83DBMwaiZE/wwB0PmxchR+h3h4GpUQSqpp00s7744X8 25gSp7/MpVQk//gTsFVPwJQE9E+lL3Fvs/v5GnkQw+jP1CyH5aodf+MerpJfq3k+Sgzm i71Pz1a7TZ26TNVD+w4XwQUXSOcx0a87PsNBM= Received: by 10.227.72.141 with SMTP id m13mr2762556wbj.143.1284645769853; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mfaridipc.faridi ([80.191.91.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a1sm2345218wbb.20.2010.09.16.07.02.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C922272.1010805@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:28:10 +0430 From: Gholam Mostafa Faridi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100908 Thunderbird/3.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pieter de Goeje References: <4C907918.7090609@gmail.com> <4C90D141.9060603@gmail.com> <201009161527.50430.pieter@degoeje.nl> In-Reply-To: <201009161527.50430.pieter@degoeje.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Edho P Arief Subject: Re: virtaullBox AMD64 32bit lib X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:02:51 -0000 On 09/16/2010 17:57, Pieter de Goeje wrote: > On Wednesday 15 September 2010 15:59:29 Gholam Mostafa Faridi wrote: > >> On 09/15/2010 13:00, Edho P Arief wrote: >> >>> sh install.sh >>> >> I download all file and go to download directory and run that command , >> for first time I do not see error and do not see messages , but when I >> run that sh install.sh again I see this error >> >> "mfaridipc# sh install.sh >> >> ./usr/lib32/libc.so.7: Could not unlink >> ./usr/lib32/libcrypt.so.5: Could not unlink >> ./usr/lib32/librt.so.1: Could not unlink >> ./usr/lib32/libthr.so.3: Could not unlink >> ./libexec/ld-elf32.so.1: Could not unlink >> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors." >> >> and problem do not solve >> > These files have the schg flag set (see chflags(1)). This means the files are > immutable. Try removing the schg flag first: > > # chflags noschg /usr/lib32/libc.so.7 > > - Pieter > > I run this chflags noschg /usr/lib32/libc.so.7 but I see this error "/usr/lib32/libc.so.7: Could not unlink ./usr/lib32/libcrypt.so.5: Could not unlink ./usr/lib32/librt.so.1: Could not unlink ./usr/lib32/libthr.so.3: Could not unlink ./libexec/ld-elf32.so.1: Could not unlink tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 14:10:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A871065693 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:10:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8958FC16 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8GEA4hD005946 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:10:04 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C922536.5000306@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:09:58 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: srividya.k@tcs.com References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5DF9CA68DFD5211740DB8B20" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Masoom Shaikh , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need bsd make for AIX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:10:12 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5DF9CA68DFD5211740DB8B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 16/09/2010 12:40:24, srividya.k@tcs.com wrote: > We have some open source code for RPC calls - DCE that has c programs a= nd=20 > corresponding makefiles. > When we tried gmake or make ( AIX make) , we were getting syntax errors= =2E > We found that all the makefiles had syntax that corresponds to makeutil= ity=20 > of BSD? >=20 > Do you have any alternative? > Is there any BSD make utility that can be installed in AIX machine? You could try this: http://www.crufty.net/help/sjg/bmake.html but I just found that after 2 seconds of searching with google and I have no idea if it works under AIX or not. There'd be no problem if someone wanted to take the BSD make sources and port them to AIX, but AFAIK, no one has ever wanted to do that, or at least, has never owned up to doing that in public that I've ever heard of= =2E Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig5DF9CA68DFD5211740DB8B20 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkySJTsACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyMYwCfSLlDVlU0vqdc+Oy283NSiGa1 0CAAnjeTCtcQ85LF21u5jZakfGhFvj6+ =xyFp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5DF9CA68DFD5211740DB8B20-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 14:14:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8171065673; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:14:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mostafafaridi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C088FC19; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:14:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb31 with SMTP id 31so51962wwb.1 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:14:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=N/uNLdZRSG/cGsypBQP9CfnR6KEamvURhWXfy68k6bs=; b=aYfp/f+alRT1Zb0lNZ/FdgmyRaMogwPGdjKH8v0RyDKdXBbHh67RfUThq2qNM2y2zP GowR9xswbtx9SPE328mYH4z8I989COj257gTu3D1LVGSm4tuMEQGXEeFYrNxtyQigagf M6EEDWEdY9A/0fLhX289udy5nRl9eVgi9qP8I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=h543kwyIT93ZnJSIu4Xfj8FELVMVjGqZwIKymNMuMMmY9Ym7ucvdOmcS+MGxlhF5/Q P1D16+f1tp86VnYCCc0MTVR5dCu3rYgG3UKvpaxNvD5UoIG1AbwMKusPnIK373qzGLvO AAS3pY7EjAiYcm/YInnHOb4YBUEH8R0ljYiII= Received: by 10.227.141.204 with SMTP id n12mr2916537wbu.7.1284646480080; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mfaridipc.faridi ([80.191.91.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e56sm1860494wer.46.2010.09.16.07.14.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C922540.2010500@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:40:08 +0430 From: Gholam Mostafa Faridi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100908 Thunderbird/3.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pieter de Goeje References: <4C907918.7090609@gmail.com> <4C90D141.9060603@gmail.com> <201009161527.50430.pieter@degoeje.nl> In-Reply-To: <201009161527.50430.pieter@degoeje.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Edho P Arief Subject: Re: virtaullBox AMD64 32bit lib X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:14:41 -0000 On 09/16/2010 17:57, Pieter de Goeje wrote: > chflags noschg /usr/lib32/libc.so.7 I do not know what happen , but after I run that command I can install virtulbox and it work bu when I want run it I see error about Failed to create a new session. Callee RC: NS_ERROR_FACTORY_NOT_REGISTERED (0x80040154) and I can not run it and use it , but when I run this command again cd /usr/src ; make build32 install32 ; ldconfig -v -m -R /usr/lib32 and I see this error sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -o root -g wheel -m 444 crtend.o /usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32/crtend.o sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -o root -g wheel -m 444 crtbeginT.o /usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32/crtbeginT.o sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -o root -g wheel -m 444 crtbegin.So /usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32/crtbeginS.o sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -o root -g wheel -m 444 crtend.So /usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32/crtendS.o ===> lib/csu/i386-elf (obj,depend,all,install) ld -m elf_i386_fbsd -Y P,/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32 -o gcrt1.o -r crt1_s.o gcrt1_c.o ld: Relocatable linking with relocations from format elf64-x86-64 (gcrt1_c.o) to format elf32-i386-freebsd (gcrt1.o) is not supported *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. mfaridipc# I think my system is broken . how I solve this problem ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 14:35:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE73A106566C for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:35:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EC18FC15 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:35:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so1149522qwg.13 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:35:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EflneEFRXRLjjjk9Wo/UhAA1roM4wge6Lw0yUByJIlM=; b=FG9AnQcuC2COXtYvjPiZVVywxvI0h+M1Sl0dBjMK2edCkfitXpH8ka+G9LtzeRjQrL 4A0UlK1PLtQui8MQ2vrnqgQfwWZrD1yB7k2lx/IYTMKZMgVlpl5A5ZuEbvRS/8UridFD H5/fK7hItLfPDJIJsy51fes8F+BE3AtubrhF0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=vUp5CvQ34KUb6thGD13ho5BDzU+uj3iR541oJuAICoLYhc7STqK6F6srTXZt3IKtl/ t/iL7zYAC8f4ojtD6t7MHRxCLAanfPdsxSeCjvd5C+aXEAR2/GZBnAqIQEbw7F5kEcHo lPL/SroSiyWuldxktEQYYMnzhpA9Vle9GnB44= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.88.15 with SMTP id y15mr2495040qcl.39.1284647757949; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.190.66 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:35:57 +0200 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: imapproxyd set up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:35:59 -0000 A user asked to set up IMAP proxy server (/usr/ports/mail/up-imapproxy) I installed it from the ports, then # cp /usr/local/etc/imapproxyd.conf.sample /usr/local/etc/imapproxyd.conf # vi /usr/local/etc/imapproxyd.conf and changed server_hostname ... to contain my imap server and listen_port 143 to listen_port 993 (it's an SSL imap server) and server_port 143 to server_port 993 Then added in /etc/rc.conf imapproxyd_enable="YES" then # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd start which responds Starting imapproxyd. /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd: WARNING: failed to start imapproxyd For a short time, a # ps -jaxw | grep imap showed: root 62092 57397 62092 64240 1 I+ 1 0:00.02 /bin/sh /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd start root 62098 62092 62092 64240 1 S+ 1 0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/in.imapproxyd Am I doing something wrong here? the file /var/log/imapproxy_protocol.log is empty /var/log/maillog says Connection to server failed or could this be a firewall protecting the imap server?? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 15:00:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B501065674 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:00:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5288FC0A for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.2]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20100916150000.BOXF3192.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:00:00 +0100 Received: from [86.27.35.5] (helo=unknown) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OwFwO-0001VQ-Dj; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:00:00 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:59:45 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Alejandro Imass Message-ID: <20100916155945.00003401@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=DhNl2YeytwJssBBGe49HJX82LNDFEEVkpVB34RXKaPo= c=1 sm=0 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=OYgs81IoAAAA:8 a=JAralIE_AAAA:8 a=W-ygN70GRM1vO87gmysA:9 a=w7Yt2I50qAjSiqgVYwthVH72eP4A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=QnLRqz7cYycA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for AIX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:00:02 -0000 On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:55:57 -0400 Alejandro Imass wrote: > First. This list is for support of ___FreeBSD___, the operating > system, although many people that _use_ FBSD actually come to this > list for help on all sorts of things, but I doubt many would be eager > to support a component of BSD to help with a problem in AIX. I suspect > lot of them in fact, would probably feel contempt or a deep repugnance > towards any sort of proprietary operating system. Take a look at http://www.flickr.com/photos/bitgeist/4603934635/ =46rom all the glowing symbols you can see that everyone really hates proprietry operating systems :) --=20 Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 15:05:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4895E106566C for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:05:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from hp9.esiee.fr (hp9.esiee.fr [147.215.1.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B4B8FC08 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:05:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by hp9.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1DA3E8E9B for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:48:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id C21F1105444B for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:48:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [147.215.1.21] (lisa.esiee.fr [147.215.1.21]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87DA105444A for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:48:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C922E56.20702@esiee.fr> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:48:54 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: imapproxyd set up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:05:31 -0000 could you send your imapproxyd.conf file ? On 09/16/2010 04:35 PM, n dhert wrote: > A user asked to set up IMAP proxy server > (/usr/ports/mail/up-imapproxy) > I installed it from the ports, then > # cp /usr/local/etc/imapproxyd.conf.sample /usr/local/etc/imapproxyd.conf > # vi /usr/local/etc/imapproxyd.conf > and changed server_hostname ... to contain my imap server > and listen_port 143 to listen_port 993 (it's an SSL imap server) > and server_port 143 to server_port 993 > Then added in /etc/rc.conf > imapproxyd_enable="YES" > > then > # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd start > which responds > Starting imapproxyd. > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd: WARNING: failed to start imapproxyd > For a short time, a > # ps -jaxw | grep imap showed: > root 62092 57397 62092 64240 1 I+ 1 0:00.02 /bin/sh > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd start > root 62098 62092 62092 64240 1 S+ 1 0:00.01 > /usr/local/sbin/in.imapproxyd > > Am I doing something wrong here? > the file /var/log/imapproxy_protocol.log is empty > /var/log/maillog says Connection to server failed > > or could this be a firewall protecting the imap server?? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 15:35:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E317210656A5 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:35:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wodfer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973D38FC1F for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:35:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4so524801gyg.13 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:35:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hty7J4hv3h294L0ySG8r3xeZlUNXD1hncqJTYJB3DkQ=; b=Vu2rEyWNSrXcGygx76EbCOzgIA4gHwfUVUWkEWViVj/xesouzSAkmwroKzaEr6Wg4Z X8K0WhCeJdIxR5HR8sRJl/HxhZfbs1XZfm/y2oL8/Dcq5zmooL82laXzezXWqqnbzdVk VVnITFZNnC1dwPHkVWXwMCndVrUdZFf1beFEQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=BHZlhqXs/BaTmAIXRSA0IzI9dZ2Apn2L1fzY4jWAUI/72Apd8A/wjqi7QQ+XnffkxY xAKaGG0AhAoDY634NRYR6beoLePXrcPbO6qZOHDx0JB05uxoJWla0Bo8t+T0pvvIhlB6 su1sPYTXK0YV5oyZufhCE7nDn3uyrvv3gEwC0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.63.19 with SMTP id q19mr3871933ybk.292.1284649844100; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.189.75 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:10:43 +0200 Message-ID: From: Andy Wodfer To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Problem adding 1TB SATA disk to system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:35:35 -0000 Hi all, I'm running FreeBSD 8.0 release (will upgrade to 8.1 STABLE tonight). However, I'm having big problems adding a new harddrive to the system. I want a separate 1TB SATA installed to recover backup files on, but when I add it I only get error messages: dmesg: ad2: 953869MB at ata1-master SATA300 GEOM: ad2: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. GEOM: ad2: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. GEOM: ufsid/4c80e66f50f43e15: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. GEOM: ufsid/4c80e66f50f43e15: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. I've tried label and fdisk, but I can't get it to work. Fdisk: WARNING: It is safe to use a geometry of 1938021/16/63 for ad2 on =E2=94= =82 =E2=94=82 computers with modern BIOS versions. If this= disk is to be used =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 on an old machine it is recommended that it d= oes not have more =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 than 65535 cylinders, more than 255 heads, or= more than =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 63 sectors per track. =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 Would you like to keep using the current geom= etry? Yes ... but it doesn't work. The computer hardware was bought new about 7 months ago and the mainboard is an intel server board. Can someone help me get this disk up and running (if possible?)? Thanks! Best regards, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 16:15:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC72F106566C for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:15:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621A48FC1D for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwH7C-0006Q5-2Y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:15:14 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.86.179]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:15:14 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:15:14 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:17:19 -0400 Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: Problem adding 1TB SATA disk to system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:15:15 -0000 Andy Wodfer wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm running FreeBSD 8.0 release (will upgrade to 8.1 STABLE tonight). > However, I'm having big problems adding a new harddrive to the system. I > want a separate 1TB SATA installed to recover backup files on, but when I > add it I only get error messages: > > dmesg: > > ad2: 953869MB at ata1-master SATA300 > GEOM: ad2: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. > GEOM: ad2: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. > GEOM: ufsid/4c80e66f50f43e15: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. > GEOM: ufsid/4c80e66f50f43e15: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. > > I've tried label and fdisk, but I can't get it to work. > [snip] I do not believe you can utilize fdisk and label for this. Since it appears there may be a possibility of a garbage MBR present this will wipe it: Boot a LiveFS CD, then at a root prompt do: sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 and: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/adx oseek=1 bs=512 count=1 where x equals your drive number. This will zero out any old MBR. You will need to set this up with gpart instead of fdisk. More details in man gpart and possibly glabel. The devil is in the details, but this may be enough to get you pointed down the road. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 16:19:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21F010656BE for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:19:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher.maness@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A628FC21 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so832874ewy.13 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:19:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QqAr5Z8QMheFWQpB/pL+rTJgpxFgGs1uW+fIZLhHxV4=; b=jbRZP15yEPPhvI2zFuy/NPBTuBHLDiTmhav68WeCfXKp3addTOBDV0IiD14MHhACr2 g+cwz25xjjjJ8kEt1O+iKLZ+2eU6OMLu769FGfPOge42f+vnPSz6jPPjLyBP2viV8Jm0 yq3mreEF3s+z/GUKxYtq88sg8AFLZTQmA7A7A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=Vn1OWtBWhvaJ/FYs49hVrAjZxJWfz/QUQO6SXvXo57FuqDxjspKavVtFgJpnfOnjq3 LCR7Q5ZRNE6MDXrjMXidYmxbuocJ2vs0K6fPgx/nRNOguioiwC4ZAWSGjU6vypQsaAU4 fXCqIlr9hWp84dXdrCA+h0ztx4U5rJCD8IsE4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.13.16 with SMTP id z16mr2814470ebz.22.1284653983143; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Sender: christopher.maness@gmail.com Received: by 10.14.127.78 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:19:43 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: wxTgYcTvsayipvaKOxXA1zxCI4g Message-ID: From: Chris Maness To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: WANTED: Camera Neck Strap (92313) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:19:44 -0000 Does anyone have an old camera neck strap hanging around? Regards, Chris Maness From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 16:20:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BB210656A6 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:20:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774C68FC17 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:20:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so1994592wyb.13 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:20:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.6.195 with SMTP id 45mr6841070wen.86.1284654044043; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.216.28.143 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:20:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100916155945.00003401@unknown> References: <20100916155945.00003401@unknown> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:20:43 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7HbyDB55SyjcexJULXBokdc6vT4 Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Bruce Cran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for AIX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:20:46 -0000 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:55:57 -0400 > Alejandro Imass wrote: > >> First. This list is for support of ___FreeBSD___, the operating >> system, although many people that _use_ FBSD actually come to this >> list for help on all sorts of things, but I doubt many would be eager >> to support a component of BSD to help with a problem in AIX. I suspect >> lot of them in fact, would probably feel contempt or a deep repugnance >> towards any sort of proprietary operating system. > > Take a look at http://www.flickr.com/photos/bitgeist/4603934635/ > From all the glowing symbols you can see that everyone really > hates proprietry operating systems :) > Yeah well, I do ;-) Besides they are running in fact great chunks of FBSD and NetBSD in those things anyway. Dunno if they use bsd make though > -- > Bruce Cran > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 16:30:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06A3106566C for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:30:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher.maness@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8998FC19 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:30:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyx24 with SMTP id 24so847674eyx.13 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:30:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ZERGbnF94TPq+YrKt74ToQblBzkUvEUyNyBVzimJSWQ=; b=hvQn0mu+UcjYxYYdtkHbMqkQZS+jh85IMIQ5G0jS4ZVdRS2qTPk2GCpby4YAy9s1cZ rmzS5+jKZmTllcWeAh9EzDEfC166K1AbI/E7qVGnL2zTWC3rJpJ+G6MboHhMiQXAbuP/ rvNDWlXjnaPH36lxAI3Zgsys3FnVf10+sjRTw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=ekK/MwEhpXaZSFbFpV+4dZ+dG9Qpa8AvICk3rEpo37GIrYTKO1R4soqJr1HecQqOpV WQFxz2d5cFQhxO8joe1KE8t0XD0+xEJf7U0vf5noCWNkC9GFIgLgwFXunXh2f/lTeLMO mzhbgsD1Q5JIYRGrk/4k0N3YpDknjbwOmlXvk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.16.207 with SMTP id p15mr5613456eba.61.1284654638016; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Sender: christopher.maness@gmail.com Received: by 10.14.127.78 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:30:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C9245A3.7030509@radel.com> References: <4C9245A3.7030509@radel.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:30:37 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dSW3ugRQI5sPdCchI3o9a_igj9I Message-ID: From: Chris Maness To: Jon Radel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WANTED: Camera Neck Strap (92313) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:30:39 -0000 oops. I meant freecycler ;o) sorry guys. Chris On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Jon Radel wrote: > On 9/16/10 12:19 PM, Chris Maness wrote: > >> Does anyone have an old camera neck strap hanging around? >> >> Regards, >> Chris Maness >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > What's this got to do with FreeBSD? > > -- > > --Jon Radel > jon@radel.com > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 16:52:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5421065670 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:52:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein-listmail@stillbilde.net) Received: from mail.stillbilde.net (unknown [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:250:56ff:feb7:c]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E9D58FC13 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:52:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (svein1.skogen.stillbilde.net [192.168.4.7]) (Authenticated sender: svein-listmail) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with ESMTPSA id A2FC227 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:14:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C924B4F.8090906@stillbilde.net> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:52:31 +0200 From: "Svein Skogen (Listmail account)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C9245A3.7030509@radel.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF8E1D8CD91CE29D5C87A705B" Subject: Re: WANTED: Camera Neck Strap (92313) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:52:37 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF8E1D8CD91CE29D5C87A705B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 16.09.2010 18:30, Chris Maness wrote: > oops. I meant freecycler ;o) sorry guys. Not to worry, I'm sure there are a few hobby photographers on this list as well. ;) //Svein --=20 --------+-------------------+------------------------------- /"\ |Svein Skogen | svein@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg =D8stli 9 | PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X |2020 Skedsmokorset | svein@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | svein@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listmail@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +-------------------+------------------------------- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |svein@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle: SS16503-RIPE --------+-------------------+------------------------------- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mobile@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. ------------------------------------------------------------ Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------enigF8E1D8CD91CE29D5C87A705B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkySS1MACgkQODUnwSLUlKS3ZgCguEnvsrYEvPvB+o6Z7uV+Y4Y/ uRsAn1R97X9yDgW2iB9fTTTyAI/H43Fx =7iPB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF8E1D8CD91CE29D5C87A705B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 16:56:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADE41065673 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:56:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827368FC1C for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:56:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.73]) by qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7Thd1f0021afHeLA6Uw2Vr; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:56:02 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.9] ([70.89.202.1]) by omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7Uvz1f00c02K3z28dUw0t1; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:56:01 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <4C924B4F.8090906@stillbilde.net> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:55:59 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4C9245A3.7030509@radel.com> <4C924B4F.8090906@stillbilde.net> To: Svein Skogen (Listmail account) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WANTED: Camera Neck Strap (92313) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:56:02 -0000 Yes, but I'm more a semi-pro. However I do not have a spare strap for you. (55125) On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Svein Skogen (Listmail account) wrote: > On 16.09.2010 18:30, Chris Maness wrote: >> oops. I meant freecycler ;o) sorry guys. >=20 > Not to worry, I'm sure there are a few hobby photographers on this = list > as well. ;) >=20 > //Svein >=20 > --=20 > --------+-------------------+------------------------------- > /"\ |Svein Skogen | svein@d80.iso100.no > \ / |Solberg =D8stli 9 | PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 > X |2020 Skedsmokorset | svein@jernhuset.no > / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 > | | svein@stillbilde.net > ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 > ribbon |System Admin | svein-listmail@stillbilde.net > Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 > +-------------------+------------------------------- > |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 > |svein@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle: SS16503-RIPE > --------+-------------------+------------------------------- > If you really are in a hurry, mail me at > svein-mobile@stillbilde.net > This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked > even when I'm not in front of my computer. > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Picture Gallery: > https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ > ------------------------------------------------------------ >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 18:45:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDD0106566C for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B058FC0C for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk8 with SMTP id 8so622741gxk.13 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:45:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=OmpUAk98Hd9xMaiJPPHQY7AvLMT/4K7EMxxcZCbImI8=; b=ZoXt9qMGufcL7odVHZQI2oz5a592CU+WI5uaTftBSxqzLcRy80DkmUP40PqLSDWHoT hivKlbZGCOQu/dBdcLqTxH9KQm7vtCLBkrU6oi0C9mOZ0zP242lQcgHGEgzGGvt2hTMn cvV/53k8X4cNRGgZq67k7bQpK1x4cE+zZHDq4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; b=SyXMk4FZPG+xa07gmSFO/TAoRp1ABO5fU0qokH+QjVxH02XMrKgy/2VZLmL+Pfwy+S ar0AywEFE9NaPt0A2GSkHtS60M7s6tzJJ1QBty+P61YJ2qQwbSjhxAA6Z6zLT7NXNRz6 XyHU1sL97kZ5T4BRhDTOQPY9xK76t8ZiMrqrs= Received: by 10.90.34.7 with SMTP id h7mr2525011agh.125.1284662741548; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:45:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: abalour@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.182.146 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:45:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Ross Cameron Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:45:19 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: YzA11vd8y6x43JTzDO9jwcglBoc Message-ID: To: srividya.k@tcs.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for AIX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:45:47 -0000 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 7:53 AM, wrote: > Hi > Is BSD compatible with AIX unix system?( AIX version 6). > We require the make utility of BSD to compile few source programs? > Are you SURE you need BSD Make? If so why? Secondly,.... it is available from http://www.crufty.net/help/sjg/bmake.html Very simple install instructions on that page too. Is there any make utility compatible with AIX? Could you please give us > the URL where we can get the same? > Yes LOTS,... bmake/nmake/gnu make/etc. etc. etc. All Make commands are not made alike.... you need to use the one that suits the syntax of the makefile in question. Judging from the Q that was asked... if the software you want to compile is OpenSource look into NetBSD's Pkgsrc system.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 20:39:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6961065696 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:39:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnewman@networktest.com) Received: from mail3.networktest.com (mail3.networktest.com [69.55.234.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB298FC16 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:39:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [69.55.234.104]) by mail3.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F2911F8FF for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3.networktest.com ([69.55.234.104]) by localhost (mail3.networktest.com [69.55.234.104]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19294-03 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp207.eng.networktest.com (ns.networktest.com [216.240.60.130]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dnewman@networktest.com) by mail3.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 03B9211F8CE for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:39:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C92808A.2090902@networktest.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:39:38 -0700 From: David Newman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C902D28.2040206@networktest.com> <4C9145EB.90900@networktest.com> In-Reply-To: <4C9145EB.90900@networktest.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: jumbo frame support in bge(4) for BCM5704 SOLVED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:39:39 -0000 On 9/15/10 3:17 PM, David Newman wrote: > On 9/14/10 7:43 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:19 PM, David Newman wrote: >> >>> 8.0-RELEASE amd64, Tyan S2882-D motherboard, Broadcom BCM5704C gigabit >>> Ethernet transceivers >>> >>> Thanks in advance for any clues on enabling jumbos on this system. >>> >> >> What happens if you boot from a linux live cd and try to enable frames >> there? > > With Ubuntu 10.04, the system accepts "ifconfig eth1 mtu N" for any > value of N up to 9000, and shows an MTU of N in response to 'ifconfig'. > > With 8.1-RELEASE (not 8.0 as stated before, sorry), the command > 'ifconfig bge0 mtu 8000' produces an error: > > ifconfig: ioctl (set mtu): Invalid argument > > Same thing with 'mtu 1500', 'mtu 1400', etc. I neglected to mention that this system uses link aggregation on the bge interfaces. Once a lagg interface exists, an MTU cannot be applied to either the bge or lagg instances. However, everything works fine if MTUs are applied to bge interfaces before bringing up the lagg interface: ifconfig_bge0="mtu 9000 up" ifconfig_bge1="mtu 9000 up" cloned_interfaces="lagg0" ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto lacp laggport bge0 laggport bge1" ipv4_addrs_lagg0="10.0.0.1/24" # ifconfig lagg0 | grep mtu lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 9000 One other thing: The maximum value for the BCM5704's mtu is 9000 bytes, not the more widely used 9216 for jumbo frames. This may reflect a hardware limit for this controller. Many thanks to FreeBSD bge(4) maintainer Pyun YongHyeon for contacting me and spotting my configuration error with the lagg setup. dn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 20:43:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B267106566C for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mail.gelita.se (212-162-182-244.skbbip.com [212.162.182.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCE48FC14 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gelita.se (localhost.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D53310EE05 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:43:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at troback.com Received: from mail.gelita.se ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (mail.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GKbWM5Y5NCn5 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:43:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187F010EDFF for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:43:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C928165.40109@eskk.nu> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:43:17 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Replacing harddrive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:43:31 -0000 Hello list. My laptop has a 200Gb drive, dual booting W7 and Freebsd 8.0-release-p2. From dmesg ad4: 190782MB at ata2-master SATA300 I've now got a 500Gb drive that I want to install instead. Cloning the W7 has worked without problems. I starts when I replace the disk in the PC. I put the original drive 200Gb back and I have the new 500Gb drive in a ESATA docking station. Boot into Freebsd, this is in dmesg: ad8: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51 error=4 ad8: 476940MB at ata4-master SATA300 Does someone know what the failure is about? Next I do su and starts sysinstall. In fdisk I create a slice and prees Q for finish. Exit sysinstall and start it again. Create my mountpoints with disklabel. I copy the values from the 200Gb disk appart from home that I make bigger. FreeBSD Disklabel Editor Disk: ad8 Partition name: ad8s3 Free: 0 blocks (0MB) Part Mount Size Newfs Part Mount Size Newfs ---- ----- ---- ----- ---- ----- ---- ----- ad8s3a /mnt/newroot 1024MB * ad8s3b swap 4096MB SWAP ad8s3d /mnt/newtmp 2048MB * ad8s3e /mnt/newvar 4096MB * ad8s3f /mnt/newusr 20480MB * ad8s3g /mnt/newhome remaining free space approx 300Gb * I exit sysinstall and start it again and now the disk is layed out as you can see below. FreeBSD Disklabel Editor Disk: ad8 Partition name: ad8s4 Free: 0 blocks (0MB) Disk: ad8 Partition name: ad8s3 Free: 0 blocks (0MB) Part Mount Size Newfs Part Mount Size Newfs ---- ----- ---- ----- ---- ----- ---- ----- ad8s4d 30866MB * ad8s3a 1024MB * ad8s3b swap 4096MB SWAP ad8s3d 2048MB * ad8s3e 4096MB * ad8s3f 20480MB * ad8s3g 28125MB * I don't really understand this and would like some help to get it right. Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 21:17:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AF11065673 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 21:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mail.gelita.se (212-162-182-244.skbbip.com [212.162.182.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5828FC1B for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 21:17:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gelita.se (localhost.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0F510EDFF for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 23:17:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at troback.com Received: from mail.gelita.se ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (mail.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s00s5a85Hms4 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 23:17:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC2610E50A for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 23:17:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C928951.1050806@eskk.nu> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 23:17:05 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C928165.40109@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <4C928165.40109@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Replacing harddrive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 21:17:14 -0000 On 2010-09-16 22:43, Leslie Jensen wrote: > Hello list. > > My laptop has a 200Gb drive, dual booting W7 and Freebsd 8.0-release-p2. > > From dmesg > ad4: 190782MB at ata2-master SATA300 Sorry for the noise!!!! Should have used the W option before quitting out from fdisk and disklabel. /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 21:20:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F5E1065695 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 21:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665688FC32 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 21:20:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb15 with SMTP id 15so681451gwb.13 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:20:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.173.21 with SMTP id a21mr4415316anp.63.1284672006570; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:20:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi.localnet ([189.70.149.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w6sm4826060anb.23.2010.09.16.14.20.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:20:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:18:56 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-STABLE; KDE/4.4.5; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009161818.56077.lobo@bsd.com.br> Cc: Modulok Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 21:20:07 -0000 On Thursday 16 September 2010 04:18:07 Modulok wrote: > List, > > I have an old box I want to turn into a file server backup machine. > Unfortunately, the mainboard has only PATA headers. I do have three > PCI slots though, so I was looking at a PCI SATA controller card that > will get along with FreeBSD without a fuss. Nothing fancy, just > something inexpensive that I can plug a few SATA drives into. Then > I'll create a graid3 with them, or mess around with ZFS. Anyone using > something worth a recommendation? > > Thanks! > -Modulok- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" There are IDE to SATA converters. You plug it directly into the IDE connector and on the other end you have a SATA150 plug. I've been using one here on my home server for about 1,5 years without any problem. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winfoes FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 21:31:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3078D106564A for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 21:31:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gautham@lisphacker.org) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68F48FC1B for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 21:31:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so2410685wyb.13 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:31:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.0.206 with SMTP id 56mr3337098web.33.1284671365008; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.158.146 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:09:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:09:24 +0100 Message-ID: From: Gautham Ganapathy To: Sergio Tam Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 21:31:52 -0000 On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Sergio Tam wrote: > 2010/8/23 Matthias Apitz : >> >> Hello, > > Hi Matthias >> >> Any recommendation for the virtualisation software for best performance? > > VMware > > or Virtual PC > > http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx > > Hi The free VMware server (if still available) was generally much faster than Virtual PC, but that was sometime back (Solaris SXDE wouldn't even install under Virtual PC, but worked great with VMware). Something to do with only user-mode virtualization? Not sure if this is still true Gautham From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 23:51:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D98C106564A for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 23:51:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43998FC1A for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 23:51:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OwOEl-0003F2-Bp for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:51:31 -0700 Message-ID: <29734114.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:51:31 -0700 (PDT) From: zaxis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: z_axis@163.com Subject: How to fix the "keyboard dead" question ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 23:51:32 -0000 Sometimes after booting freebsd and reaching the slim login screen, i canno= t input anything: the keyboard seems to be dead. Then i have to reboot freebsd and the problem disappear ! >uname -a FreeBSD mybsd.zsoft.com 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #1: Wed Sep 8 09:07:54 CST 2010 =20 root@mybsd.zsoft.com:/media/G/usr/obj/media/G/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL i386 >dmesg -a | grep -i fail acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, 3fde0000 (3) failed >dmesg -a | grep -i warn ACPI Warning: Optional field Pm2ControlBlock has zero address or length: 0x= =20 0 0/0x1 (20100331/tbfadt-655) Sincerely! ----- e^(=CF=80=E2=8B=85i) + 1 =3D 0 --=20 View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/How-to-fix-the-%22keybo= ard-dead%22-question---tp29734114p29734114.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 00:35:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C994106566C for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:35:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156648FC08 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:35:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwOur-0001lk-Fg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:35:01 +0200 Received: from 93-141-120-143.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([93.141.120.143]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:35:01 +0200 Received: from ivoras by 93-141-120-143.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:35:01 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:34:50 +0200 Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 93-141-120-143.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100620 Thunderbird/3.0.4 In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Need bsd make for AIX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:35:04 -0000 On 09/16/10 08:58, srividya.k@tcs.com wrote: > Hi > Is there any BSD make versions available for AIX platform? > We require the make utility of BSD to compile few source programs. > > Is there any make utility compatible with AIX? Could you please give us > the URL where we can get the same? FreeBSD's make is an integral part of the FreeBSD file system. It is not created to be compatible across systems, but it is also not created to prevent this kind of porting. With a command like: svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/head/usr.bin/make you can fetch the sources for the BSD make. If you have a gcc compiler installed you can compile the BSD make with a command like: gcc '-DDEFSHELLNAME="sh"' -o make *.c Note that the Makefile included with BSD make is in BSD make format so you need to bootstrap it like in the above command; the quotes around -D are needed. There is absolutely no guarantee this will work on your system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 00:38:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1233) id D24E11065672; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:38:38 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:38:38 +0000 From: Alexander Best To: David DEMELIER Message-ID: <20100917003838.GA67783@freebsd.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: make buildkernel pre-build too long X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:38:38 -0000 On Thu Sep 16 10, David DEMELIER wrote: > Hi there, > > I can't understand why this part of make buildkernel is so long on my > amd64 machine (8.1-R) > > make -V CFILES -V SYSTEM_CFILES -V GEN_CFILES | MKDEP_CPP="cc -E" > CC="cc" xargs mkdep -a -f .newdep -O2 -frename-registers -pipe > -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls > -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes > -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign > -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/pf -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath > -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ngatm > -I/usr/src/sys/dev/twa -I/usr/src/sys/gnu/fs/xfs/FreeBSD > -I/usr/src/sys/gnu/fs/xfs/FreeBSD/support -I/usr/src/sys/gnu/fs/xfs > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/opensolaris/compat -I/usr/src/sys/dev/cxgb > -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h > -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param > large-function-growth=1000 -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel > -mno-red-zone -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -mno-mmx > -mno-3dnow -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables > -ffreestanding -fstack-protector > > This command takes around 5-6 minutes before continuing, on my i386 > machine (which is really old) it only takes about 20 seconds. The > kernel configs are almost the same for both machines. are there any differences in /etc/make.conf? cheers. alex > > Do you have any idea? > > Kind regards, > > -- > Demelier David -- a13x From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 00:40:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FF91065674 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:40:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F90E8FC1B for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:40:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwP0N-0003v9-2L for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:40:43 +0200 Received: from 93-141-120-143.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([93.141.120.143]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:40:43 +0200 Received: from ivoras by 93-141-120-143.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:40:43 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:40:32 +0200 Lines: 6 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 93-141-120-143.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100620 Thunderbird/3.0.4 In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Need bsd make for AIX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:40:44 -0000 On 09/17/10 02:34, Ivan Voras wrote: > FreeBSD's make is an integral part of the FreeBSD file system. It is not heh... *operating* system :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 01:08:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AE3106564A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:08:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BDED8FC08 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:08:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-147.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.147]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C9F1E322; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 03:08:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8H18GoK040544; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 03:08:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 03:08:16 +0200 From: Polytropon To: zaxis Message-Id: <20100917030816.8512ee8c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <29734114.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <29734114.post@talk.nabble.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to fix the "keyboard dead" question ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:08:19 -0000 On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:51:31 -0700 (PDT), zaxis wrote: > > Sometimes after booting freebsd and reaching the slim login screen, i cannot > input anything: the keyboard seems to be dead. Then i have to reboot > freebsd and the problem disappear ! Is this an AT or USB keyboard? If it is a USB keyboard: I have similar problems on FreeBSD 7 (didn't have them before on 5) where the "activation" of the USB keyboard sometimes takes up to 2 minutes after system boot is complete. Detaching and re-attaching the USB plug sometimes helps. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 01:37:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87928106564A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:37:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444B18FC0C for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:37:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywt2 with SMTP id 2so737309ywt.13 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:37:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.120.14 with SMTP id s14mr4676286anc.151.1284687466224; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.16.7 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:37:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.61.122] In-Reply-To: <20100915100848.2446ab49@scorpio> References: <20100915151732.GA46569@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <20100915100848.2446ab49@scorpio> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 03:37:46 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:37:47 -0000 On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Jerry wrote: > As per the Mozilla site: > > "Starting in Firefox 3.6, you also need the new Java plugin included in > Java 6 Update 15 and above." > > FreeBSD does not supply, nor support as far as I can decipher, that > version or any of the newer versions, the latest being version 6, update > 21. Nor, as I stated previously, has anyone stated definitively why. That's one of the problems w.r.t. Java on FreeBSD: I had to install openjdk6, which provides at least this level in order to run all services that Freenet provides (Freenet runs in degraded mode with java/jdk16, because that version is too old and contains a big XML-related vulnerability). But java/openjdk6 works just fine with Freenet and almost any Java program I could throw at it. I don't know about Firefox 3.6 plugins though. % java -version openjdk version "1.6.0" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b20) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 17.0-b16, mixed mode) -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 01:45:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF991065697 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:45:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37E18FC0C for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:45:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8H1jYGm065088 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:45:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:45:33 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100917014530.GA35456@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Subject: why is the PHP stuff line "off" by default in ports/lang/php5? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:45:38 -0000 Guys, Tell me if I'm wrong to be ticked off. I just learned that my website has been down for weeks. My KVM switch doesn't work to let me have control of the console of my server [ns1|ethic].thought.org. Whether it was a cheap KVM switch or whether the '09 Dell 550 is defective is unknown. I have a new KVM switch. I do need direct control of the console for many reasons, but mostly to portupgrad ports. In the months since I first got ethic working, everything _but_ X11 worked. In late August I upgraded apache and php5, rebooted, and just-assumed {TM} that apache22 was working. Weeks ago I did read and edit my non-blog blog; further reason to assume that everything worked. A couple hours ago my web server was not running. I traced it to a missing libphp5.so. I checked the makefile and found the php stuff defaults to "off". ...I am thinking this is a security risk, but most of us are reasonably sophisticated about such things .... Comments, anybody? -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 01:58:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19760106564A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:58:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23ED8FC15 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.74]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7d241f0081bwxycA7dy1Jy; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:58:01 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.9] ([70.89.202.1]) by omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7dxz1f00U02K3z28edy0Pe; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:58:01 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <20100917030816.8512ee8c.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:57:59 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5A92300C-BA87-4EB3-AA7D-F4BAEA2625F8@cwis.biz> References: <29734114.post@talk.nabble.com> <20100917030816.8512ee8c.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Polytropon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: zaxis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to fix the "keyboard dead" question ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:58:03 -0000 I've had similar results on my USB to PS/2 keyboard adapter. If I = reconnect the bridge device (not necc. have the KB attached to it) it = will work. On Sep 16, 2010, at 8:08 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:51:31 -0700 (PDT), zaxis = wrote: >>=20 >> Sometimes after booting freebsd and reaching the slim login screen, i = cannot >> input anything: the keyboard seems to be dead. Then i have to reboot >> freebsd and the problem disappear ! >=20 > Is this an AT or USB keyboard? >=20 > If it is a USB keyboard: I have similar problems on FreeBSD 7 > (didn't have them before on 5) where the "activation" of the > USB keyboard sometimes takes up to 2 minutes after system boot > is complete. Detaching and re-attaching the USB plug sometimes > helps. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 02:52:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8643E106564A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:52:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robertames@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc4-s29.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s29.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA6E8FC08 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SNT131-W11 ([65.55.90.199]) by snt0-omc4-s29.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:40:50 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [76.182.239.110] From: Robert Ames To: Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:40:49 -0400 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Sep 2010 02:40:50.0033 (UTC) FILETIME=[BD496E10:01CB5611] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Plextor PX-870A drives X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:52:51 -0000 I have a couple of Plextor PX-870A drives in different machines (see below) that I'm trying to use with atapicam. The drives mostly work (booting=2C reading data=2C etc.) but for whatever reason neither of them will play audio CDs using the "cdcontrol play" command. They just sit there. The drives never spin up. There are no obvious errors. I've tried multiple types of CDs (CD-Rs that I burn and commercial audio CDs). I can burn audio CDs using cdrecord that play in other drives=2C they just won't play in these drives. And while "cdcontrol info" will show me what tracks are on a CD it just won't play them. I have a Plextor PX-850A that works fine. Is there something incompatible with PX-870A drives and FreeBSD? I can provide more info if needed. FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE #1: Tue Sep 7 19:36:09 CDT 2010 acd0: DVDR at ata1-slave UDMA33 acd0: FAILURE - INQUIRY ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=3D0x24 ascq=3D0x00=20 cd0 at ata1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device=20 cd0: 33.000MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY=2C Medium not present -= tray closed FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #3: Mon Sep 6 16:48:45 CDT 2010 acd0: DVDR at ata1-master UDMA33 acd0: FAILURE - INQUIRY ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=3D0x24 ascq=3D0x00=20 cd0 at ata0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 33.000MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY=2C Medium not present -= tray open = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 03:43:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE571065670 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 03:42:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093AF8FC15 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 03:42:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29509 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2010 03:14:56 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO april.telenix.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 17 Sep 2010 03:14:56 -0000 Message-ID: <4C92DD2A.4030609@telenix.org> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 23:14:50 -0400 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100907 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Need bsd make for AIX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 03:43:00 -0000 On 09/16/10 20:34, Ivan Voras wrote: > On 09/16/10 08:58, srividya.k@tcs.com wrote: >> Hi >> Is there any BSD make versions available for AIX platform? >> We require the make utility of BSD to compile few source programs. >> >> Is there any make utility compatible with AIX? Could you please give us >> the URL where we can get the same? > > FreeBSD's make is an integral part of the FreeBSD file system. It is not > created to be compatible across systems, but it is also not created to > prevent this kind of porting. Wow. I disagree. It's been modified over the years to depend heavily on a set of libraries that are available nowhere else but FreeBSD. This was done (from what I can see) in the name of elegance ... because the actual functions ARE available elsewhere, but a bunch of modifications need to be added, no possible way is it going to compile anywhere else. I ported it a few years ago to Linux, so I know it can be moved, but it's not a trivial job. Too bad, because it's a fine tool, and all those mods added no functionality that I can see. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 01:02:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9BF11065672 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:02:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hemdani2009@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f196.google.com (mail-iw0-f196.google.com [209.85.214.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40688FC16 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:02:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn7 with SMTP id 7so255715iwn.7 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:02:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0dNVBXaDsJlbDakR/9U7eRhAHS73VGj0CU902AXy4DY=; b=nTuWaW8kL04hGD716EQba7+4fN0R/S0Reea9ncWrBaR23Va4hmENZs378sDkNpQ04t IXmC1+JoYZEu5wcNGsHTizqPMLr3IlBpxQFoHFXcgaQKljMeq84vnPBj/Y37DqABpv4O JtxBRD2ceiLpWCAPSh+/m5G93CRkgCwEi3tK4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=UNfF6F2I9rn/JAhplbAlnHwGRbxXon9s1ORC38EyEkBlXAmDcvj+rLVmfaCfA3jOIG 6vpFznFVgWNgb9GHSakesw5rzTuZXT5Bea/mgFjGca+obU2KYEEVNrvWZ0EVIB5uYzHk Ey/XORKOca0L9F8mSS/LIYJZgAhgsfqQ8JtY8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.174.84 with SMTP id s20mr4331329ibz.94.1284684354818; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.182.4 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:45:54 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chabane HEMDANI To: questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:06:02 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:02:07 -0000 I'm computer science teacher at university of Tizi-ouzou in Algeria. I'm using FreeBSD since 2007 when I "discover" it by chance when searching in the Web something about Linux. Since that date, I always invited and recommended to my students to install and use this "magical" and my favorite system. However, all my students retort me that they have a problem of installing their printers. I have so this problem, so I can't tell good-bye definitively to winosor and Linux. I always need them for printing. I've search, read, learn, follow instructions about nearly all the web-documentation about installing a new printer to work under cups without any success. I've an HP Laser Jet 1018 printer and tools given by package print/hplip don't work correctly. I'm using FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE I've rebuild a kernel without ulpt. I modified my /etc/rc.conf to enable cupsd and hpiod and hpssd. I modified /etc/devfs.rules like suggested by cups (see pkg_info -D cups-base-1.4.4 ). I've made many other configurations like that suggested at http://diablotins.org/index.php/Imprimer,_hplip and finally, I've given to my students the wrong answer that "no one can print under FreeBSD !" Please where is the problem? Please help me to help others. Please help me to enlarge the FreeBSD users community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 05:16:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A60106564A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=869a9919f=srividya.k@tcs.com) Received: from InChnG02.tcs.com (InChnG02.tcs.com [122.184.60.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 232DA8FC15 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:16:54 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,380,1280687400"; d="scan'208";a="28568928" In-Reply-To: References: To: Ross Cameron MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KeepSent: 5BF10A4D:A93EFD84-652577A1:001BA6F5; type=4; name=$KeepSent X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.0.1 February 07, 2008 Message-ID: From: srividya.k@tcs.com Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:35:49 +0530 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on InChnM22/TCS(Release 8.0.2HF1089 | June 2, 2009) at 09/17/2010 10:35:51, Serialize complete at 09/17/2010 10:35:51 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, abalour@gmail.com Subject: Re: Support for AIX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:16:56 -0000 We have a source code that needs to be compiled. Its the OpenGroup's DCE( used as RPC). The source code is available , but we are not able to compile it with either AIX's make utility or gmake. The syntax corresponds to BSD's make. Will try getting the make utility from the URL? Is there any other make utility. I am not sure if bmake is the exact utility we require. The makefile has macros as -- > .if define ---> .if exists and all the statements start with .. GMAKE or AIX make throws errors with this make file. Will bmake be the right make utility to for above type of source code? Srividya K Tata Consultancy Services Mailto: srividya.k@tcs.com Website: http://www.tcs.com ____________________________________________ Experience certainty. IT Services Business Solutions Outsourcing ____________________________________________ From: Ross Cameron To: srividya.k@tcs.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: 09/17/2010 12:16 AM Subject: Re: Support for AIX Sent by: abalour@gmail.com On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 7:53 AM, wrote: Hi Is BSD compatible with AIX unix system?( AIX version 6). We require the make utility of BSD to compile few source programs? Are you SURE you need BSD Make? If so why? Secondly,.... it is available from http://www.crufty.net/help/sjg/bmake.html Very simple install instructions on that page too. Is there any make utility compatible with AIX? Could you please give us the URL where we can get the same? Yes LOTS,... bmake/nmake/gnu make/etc. etc. etc. All Make commands are not made alike.... you need to use the one that suits the syntax of the makefile in question. Judging from the Q that was asked... if the software you want to compile is OpenSource look into NetBSD's Pkgsrc system.... =====-----=====-----===== Notice: The information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 05:24:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB4D1065694 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43208FC14 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz15 with SMTP id 15so2954050bwz.13 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:24:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=yDjqFG6cOBzJdJ3w8RRnl8//uDkGqMMFX43HIMheBw8=; b=LzSp8mtFjuxLE/ZFy6xCopLhORFwQ/bE2/2KsDsf35cAnpCmlYEChdjkgY3aAIjnJ7 j+j03ndCRst86ugTJ9ZmwvcFYbfLJQQkARPPg9oowiwsqyorQENvVLXFvJgjahqdeyZV y/pKoe+3SbXXwmjqyuFdGyyTeNDl8YcmnpNV0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=lAMF0Q5/a9TFk2C4jUMu0EpPuXbdxF7ZHnD3td/1h8PwUe6PD+sKwYiFFyhuj+t/fU WhjkiXkxqi92wf0XqzrgIGRc4Mi8DlWodOPKjmuZdvBuvcN7VPXydKTdxznVUIM5SHth FSKoZhd3uMuKkunpGrmmUWAmBXpbGDHR0azBM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.117.201 with SMTP id s9mr1787591faq.87.1284701079557; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:24:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.57.20 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:24:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100915151732.GA46569@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <20100915100848.2446ab49@scorpio> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:24:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: "C. P. Ghost" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:24:41 -0000 On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:46 AM, wrote: > On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:46:35 -0400, Michel Talon > wrote: > > Jerry said: >> >> "Starting in Firefox 3.6, you also need the new Java plugin included in >>> Java 6 Update 15 and above." >>> >> >> OK, this explains why my plugin doesn't work. So the only solution is to >> use the port firefox35 hoping that other components (flash plugin >> support) also work in this case. > > Yes, as I said in the second post to the thread. On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:37 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote: > I don't know about Firefox 3.6 plugins though. > It doesn't work, you need the icetea to generate the plugins. There is this: /usr/ports/java/icedtea6-stubs Looks promising anyways. There is also this work around. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-java/2010-February/008535.html Java seems more pervasive than ever in the web enviro at least for sys admin type stuff. Today I used it to access a Proxmox install, a Lantronics spider kvm over IP, and my girlfriend's child had a homework assignment on a java web app that was broken due to a recent update to her XP's java runtime. You can say all you want Java is dead, dying, and/or irrelevant. I wish you were right, unfortunately that's not the world many of us live in. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 05:44:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760C3106564A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:44:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373B48FC0A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:44:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so2012091iwn.13 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:44:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=Se5vdZaHcHKQbduz6lVHThpyo4IXbA7VeDb8z5zPRKw=; b=lPnq5g0mmjrW0uQtAE7puDtI+dkbDrlxMglIvT3iUJ/pyi6k7tI8e1VJ9KNVfyaUuV 6Qh/Uc2l/CJUeX3x4XqZ6LIJgYKi08PrTjc+835goF3miT4P5Nang6fN3VhMUrBDhrCt veQh4ZiFuD9gkdpwoIRGjmFDPkKqBcle2DwbM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; b=ON21BV/5Q7gYWXADmJrJYV2IvY+0CdFR98KrLVtf+C0y2fKI8swS3ChhgAiejZKnoT LK5aEQPxnPfRKkIamINcDFB3R9PnpiOGF2w6wWvMq46LpRisRUQ+HZe5q+9N4fljuA2g o7F0sRnjBYLlUnnaATNdirSD9IQVu1ND/bT1Q= Received: by 10.231.14.5 with SMTP id e5mr4454137iba.175.1284702274608; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:44:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: abalour@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.182.146 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:44:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Ross Cameron Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:44:14 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: PlDAeHg90FbpQjs3KBXcBtzDKgg Message-ID: To: srividya.k@tcs.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for AIX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:44:35 -0000 Make doesn't handle source code, it just control's the actual build process so you don't have to type hundreds of "cc ........." lines in a console. Have you tried contacting the current maintainers of DCE for advice? Maybe a bit of googling.... Have you tried verifying the Makefile's format using the "-n" switch ??? I would suggest contacting either IBM or the OpenGroup about this as we're just guessing here.... this is the __FreeBSD__ mailing lists... we can try help but honestly the vendors are the right people to ask..... "Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:05 AM, wrote: > > We have a source code that needs to be compiled. Its the OpenGroup's DCE( > used as RPC). > The source code is available , but we are not able to compile it with > either AIX's make utility or gmake. > > The syntax corresponds to BSD's make. > > Will try getting the make utility from the URL? > > Is there any other make utility. I am not sure if bmake is the exact > utility we require. > > The makefile has macros as -- > .if define > ---> .if exists > and all the statements start with .. GMAKE or AIX make throws errors with > this make file. > > Will bmake be the right make utility to for above type of source code? > > Srividya K > Tata Consultancy Services > Mailto: srividya.k@tcs.com > Website: http://www.tcs.com > > ____________________________________________ > Experience certainty. IT Services > Business Solutions > Outsourcing > ____________________________________________ > > > From: Ross Cameron To: srividya.k@tcs.com Cc: > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: 09/17/2010 12:16 AM Subject: Re: > Support for AIX Sent by: abalour@gmail.com > ------------------------------ > > > > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 7:53 AM, <*srividya.k@tcs.com*> > wrote: > Hi > Is BSD compatible with AIX unix system?( AIX version 6). > We require the make utility of BSD to compile few source programs? > > Are you SURE you need BSD Make? > If so why? > > Secondly,.... it is available from * > http://www.crufty.net/help/sjg/bmake.html* > Very simple install instructions on that page too. > > Is there any make utility compatible with AIX? Could you please give us > the URL where we can get the same? > > Yes LOTS,... bmake/nmake/gnu make/etc. etc. etc. > All Make commands are not made alike.... you need to use the one that > suits the syntax of the makefile in question. > > Judging from the Q that was asked... if the software you want to compile is > OpenSource look into NetBSD's Pkgsrc system.... > > =====-----=====-----===== > Notice: The information contained in this e-mail > message and/or attachments to it may contain > confidential or privileged information. If you are > > not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, > review, distribution, printing or copying of the > information contained in this e-mail message > and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If > you have received this communication in error, > > please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and > immediately and permanently delete the message > and any attachments. Thank you > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 05:51:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C919C106566C for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=869a9919f=srividya.k@tcs.com) Received: from InChnG02.tcs.com (InChnG02.tcs.com [122.184.60.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2049F8FC13 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:51:15 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,380,1280687400"; d="scan'208";a="28575567" X-DISCLAIMER: FALSE In-Reply-To: References: To: Ross Cameron MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KeepSent: D8637AD9:C61C6A36-652577A1:001FA020; type=4; name=$KeepSent X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.0.1 February 07, 2008 Message-ID: From: srividya.k@tcs.com Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:21:11 +0530 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on InChnM22/TCS(Release 8.0.2HF1089 | June 2, 2009) at 09/17/2010 11:21:13, Serialize complete at 09/17/2010 11:21:13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, abalour@gmail.com Subject: Re: Support for AIX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:51:17 -0000 Yes.. But the syntax used in the makefile corresponds to BSD make and gmake didnt work. IBM doesn't support this DCE anymore. Thanks much for the help Ross! Srividya K Tata Consultancy Services Mailto: srividya.k@tcs.com Website: http://www.tcs.com ____________________________________________ Experience certainty. IT Services Business Solutions Outsourcing ____________________________________________ From: Ross Cameron To: srividya.k@tcs.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: 09/17/2010 11:14 AM Subject: Re: Support for AIX Sent by: abalour@gmail.com Make doesn't handle source code, it just control's the actual build process so you don't have to type hundreds of "cc ........." lines in a console. Have you tried contacting the current maintainers of DCE for advice? Maybe a bit of googling.... Have you tried verifying the Makefile's format using the "-n" switch ??? I would suggest contacting either IBM or the OpenGroup about this as we're just guessing here.... this is the __FreeBSD__ mailing lists... we can try help but honestly the vendors are the right people to ask..... "Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:05 AM, wrote: We have a source code that needs to be compiled. Its the OpenGroup's DCE( used as RPC). The source code is available , but we are not able to compile it with either AIX's make utility or gmake. The syntax corresponds to BSD's make. Will try getting the make utility from the URL? Is there any other make utility. I am not sure if bmake is the exact utility we require. The makefile has macros as -- > .if define ---> .if exists and all the statements start with .. GMAKE or AIX make throws errors with this make file. Will bmake be the right make utility to for above type of source code? Srividya K Tata Consultancy Services Mailto: srividya.k@tcs.com Website: http://www.tcs.com ____________________________________________ Experience certainty. IT Services Business Solutions Outsourcing ____________________________________________ From: Ross Cameron To: srividya.k@tcs.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: 09/17/2010 12:16 AM Subject: Re: Support for AIX Sent by: abalour@gmail.com On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 7:53 AM, wrote: Hi Is BSD compatible with AIX unix system?( AIX version 6). We require the make utility of BSD to compile few source programs? Are you SURE you need BSD Make? If so why? Secondly,.... it is available from http://www.crufty.net/help/sjg/bmake.html Very simple install instructions on that page too. Is there any make utility compatible with AIX? Could you please give us the URL where we can get the same? Yes LOTS,... bmake/nmake/gnu make/etc. etc. etc. All Make commands are not made alike.... you need to use the one that suits the syntax of the makefile in question. Judging from the Q that was asked... if the software you want to compile is OpenSource look into NetBSD's Pkgsrc system.... =====-----=====-----===== Notice: The information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. Thank you =====-----=====-----===== Notice: The information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it may contain confidential or privileged information. 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Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 05:55:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3B71065675 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:55:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44EC8FC20 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:55:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi17 with SMTP id 17so530104wwi.31 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:55:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rCAbI5+ikMPZY3K8zTp/lCcBbk1ycQNw72aDAN9m+og=; b=rLFrV72T6xkXB5Ro7a8HzpvWbTw615+VLDJWT3GdogQPD7nkIV9Rgn3hNZk7Gq8fQi CEppU0Y1p0cbF12twjnuDpwduoRJM/yhqOM2AhnhkU9jEcUUpHXEUD3nRQWSQO719W14 KSyh1KeD92tF42+r7/k1aMGmk6ZEO408YKGPM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tuVgTzVbbRAkn39cIUQkeeNW/BR1+PjbBSSeDhRXv5udeW4o/MWaVG+lFpB2fPx9bi 3KTfW/yOOdizXvDAmmMRW8lABBpEMBc/qbHmzDcTociZUeA05+DLTYEaM+RyYY9FrSrN npRicnqoYCPei7iLJ2gthpyGEJzgBk9TY97X0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.50.18 with SMTP id y18mr304043web.113.1284702923626; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.38.129 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:55:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:55:23 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: Chabane HEMDANI , FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:55:25 -0000 Hello, First things first, does cups see your printer ? Do you use "lpradmin" or the web-interface for adding the printer ? Second, did you try using http://foo2qpdl.rkkda.com/ for the driver ? Third, can you post error logs ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 06:39:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516771065672 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 06:39:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75B6A8FC12 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 06:39:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Sep 2010 06:13:06 -0000 Received: from p5DF10B89.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO core2duo.local) [93.241.11.137] by mail.gmx.net (mp020) with SMTP; 17 Sep 2010 08:13:06 +0200 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1877D1++cg7KGXja/j2f/nLmpMmm/wuQmgWe98LFL ZAUJxxaKwN0mnb Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:12:49 +0200 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Chabane HEMDANI Message-Id: <20100917081249.2a101981.cyb.@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Fri__17_Sep_2010_08_12_49_+0200_K08aUsmJQQSMO4bD" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 06:39:49 -0000 --Signature=_Fri__17_Sep_2010_08_12_49_+0200_K08aUsmJQQSMO4bD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:45:54 +0100 Chabane HEMDANI wrote: > I've search, read, learn, follow instructions about nearly all the > web-documentation about installing a new printer to work under cups witho= ut > any success. I've an HP Laser Jet 1018 printer and tools given by package > print/hplip don't work correctly. >=20 > I'm using FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE > I've rebuild a kernel without ulpt. > I modified my /etc/rc.conf to enable cupsd and hpiod and hpssd. > I modified /etc/devfs.rules like suggested by cups (see pkg_info -D > cups-base-1.4.4 ). > I've made many other configurations like that suggested at > http://diablotins.org/index.php/Imprimer,_hplip > > and finally, I've given to my students the wrong answer that "no one can > print under FreeBSD !" Which is wrong, all you need is a printer, that is _supported_. > Please where is the problem? The LaserJet 1018 uses another protocol, so you need aditional software. Take a look at these sites: http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_1018 http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/ Before buying the next printer, see whether or not it is supported by Cups http://www.cups.org/ppd.php . Same goes for your students. Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --Signature=_Fri__17_Sep_2010_08_12_49_+0200_K08aUsmJQQSMO4bD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkyTBvAACgkQ8P3NNypXNWXxawCeID/w8ws3qIr6On+0BwSXLqPm vSoAn1YB6YlaD8mLpH/CDEfAV/yvLsBH =PFP4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Fri__17_Sep_2010_08_12_49_+0200_K08aUsmJQQSMO4bD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 07:04:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EA7106564A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:04:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F7E8FC26 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:04:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz15 with SMTP id 15so3008459bwz.13 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:04:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/NIBfHKb3LfnMSRCeXyg45BAiEVuTi40xttlPnuHe4E=; b=jPZvbki7UEWvjapdmzkyx/wEm3IMtQIg8VGbWTtxwn5SfEN0636B6Sswg0q6w2Ef5i skQvtrb5iZYGU6wyxDOTndFzjHe0QMgOazXZYMbjWeM2McphL5TpOZ1optTDdEXV2Sgn EOTFMyucqCsWQqEVLCPsnGvutKU8x/9axo7aM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nTkIlbMIdc9bX4x/4alimDa2BgkEx0dRx+Zo5c7qfxr/PrgSXcsjX/aj7QfV4nd1q+ YAN7wcr03vBf/3vixvhJ0MDOu1T6lXcRa+tHKr9bswNTQJq2WmcuROUwrN9LhwP7MmC+ byUgXyNl0aactHmtdV5u/8hEacsyjHd0vpfkE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.156.212 with SMTP id y20mr3290224bkw.179.1284707077763; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.97.208 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:04:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100917003838.GA67783@freebsd.org> References: <20100917003838.GA67783@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:04:37 +0200 Message-ID: From: David DEMELIER To: Alexander Best Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: make buildkernel pre-build too long X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:04:39 -0000 2010/9/17 Alexander Best : > On Thu Sep 16 10, David DEMELIER wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> I can't understand why this part of make buildkernel is so long on my >> amd64 machine (8.1-R) >> >> make -V CFILES -V SYSTEM_CFILES -V GEN_CFILES | =C2=A0MKDEP_CPP=3D"cc -E= " >> CC=3D"cc" xargs mkdep -a -f .newdep -O2 -frename-registers -pipe >> -fno-strict-aliasing =C2=A0-std=3Dc99 =C2=A0-Wall -Wredundant-decls >> -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes =C2=A0-Wmissing-prototypes >> -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual =C2=A0-Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign >> -fformat-extensions -nostdinc =C2=A0-I. -I/usr/src/sys >> -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter >> -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/pf -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath >> -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ngatm >> -I/usr/src/sys/dev/twa -I/usr/src/sys/gnu/fs/xfs/FreeBSD >> -I/usr/src/sys/gnu/fs/xfs/FreeBSD/support -I/usr/src/sys/gnu/fs/xfs >> -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/opensolaris/compat -I/usr/src/sys/dev/cxgb >> -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h >> -fno-common -finline-limit=3D8000 --param inline-unit-growth=3D100 --par= am >> large-function-growth=3D1000 =C2=A0-fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=3Dke= rnel >> -mno-red-zone =C2=A0-mfpmath=3D387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -mno-mmx >> -mno-3dnow =C2=A0-msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables >> -ffreestanding -fstack-protector >> >> This command takes around 5-6 minutes before continuing, on my i386 >> machine (which is really old) it only takes about 20 seconds. The >> kernel configs are almost the same for both machines. > > are there any differences in /etc/make.conf? > > cheers. > alex > >> >> Do you have any idea? >> >> Kind regards, >> >> -- >> Demelier David > > -- > a13x > No, except the KERNCONF entry it's exactly the same : # General settings. KERNCONF=3DMelon MASTER_SORT?=3D .fr .uk # Portconf. .if !empty(.CURDIR:M/usr/ports*) && exists(/usr/local/libexec/portconf) _PORTCONF!=3D/usr/local/libexec/portconf .for i in ${_PORTCONF:S/|/ /g} ${i:S/%/ /g} .endfor .endif # Perl. PERL_VERSION=3D5.10.1 # No need modules. NO_MODULES=3Dyes # Specify other directories. WRKDIRPREFIX=3D /usr/obj DISTDIR=3D /usr/distfiles --=20 Demelier David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 07:40:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4DE21065675 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:40:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdq@peterk.org) Received: from poshta.pknet.net (poshta.pknet.net [216.241.167.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6E38FC1F for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:40:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 42230 invoked by uid 89); 17 Sep 2010 07:14:09 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO pop.pknet.net) (127.0.0.1) by poshta.pknet.net with ESMTP; 17 Sep 2010 07:14:09 -0000 Received: from 216.241.170.11 (SquirrelMail authenticated user fbsdq@peterk.org) by pop.pknet.net with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:14:09 -0600 Message-ID: <28e7249799bdca81a7aee1cb2670506b.squirrel@pop.pknet.net> In-Reply-To: <20100917081249.2a101981.cyb.@gmx.net> References: <20100917081249.2a101981.cyb.@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:14:09 -0600 From: "Peter" To: "Chabane HEMDANI" , questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:40:51 -0000 > On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:45:54 +0100 > Chabane HEMDANI wrote: > >> I've search, read, learn, follow instructions about nearly all the >> web-documentation about installing a new printer to work under cups >> without >> any success. I've an HP Laser Jet 1018 printer and tools given by >> package >> print/hplip don't work correctly. >> >> I'm using FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE >> I've rebuild a kernel without ulpt. >> I modified my /etc/rc.conf to enable cupsd and hpiod and hpssd. >> I modified /etc/devfs.rules like suggested by cups (see pkg_info -D >> cups-base-1.4.4 ). >> I've made many other configurations like that suggested at >> http://diablotins.org/index.php/Imprimer,_hplip >> > >> and finally, I've given to my students the wrong answer that "no one >> can >> print under FreeBSD !" > > Which is wrong, all you need is a printer, that is _supported_. > >> Please where is the problem? > > The LaserJet 1018 uses another protocol, so you need aditional software. > Take a look at these sites: > http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_1018 > http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/ > > Before buying the next printer, see whether or not it is supported by > Cups http://www.cups.org/ppd.php . Same goes for your students. > > Andreas > -- > GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ > Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 > I got an HP Laser 1018 - works perfectly fine using the foo2zjs drivers, and I do believe ultp0. I can send you my configs once I get home if you want. The real pain which I keep forgetting after a reload or on new pc, was having to initialize [cat firmware > /dev/ulpt0] each time the computer is rebooted [ie @reboot in cron]. ]Peter[ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 09:02:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16AE1065670 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wolfgang@riegler.homeip.net) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464798FC12 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:02:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.cbt-l.de ([212.185.49.146]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MgHFG-1PAMYj0I0E-00O72H; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:49:59 +0200 Received: (qmail 54153 invoked by uid 1009); 17 Sep 2010 08:49:55 -0000 Received: from 192.168.40.46 by mail.cbt-l.de (envelope-from , uid 1008) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.96.2/11563. spamassassin: 3.3.0. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. 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Processed in 0.042374 secs Process 54147) Received: from wolfgang.cbt-l.de (HELO wolfgang.localnet) (w.riegler@cbt-l.de@192.168.40.46) by mail.cbt-l.de with SMTP; 17 Sep 2010 08:49:55 -0000 From: Wolfgang Riegler To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:49:55 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.34-gentoo-r6-sepp1; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <201009152110.36850.wolfgang.riegler@gmx.de> <4C911EC0.9000607@beatsnet.com> In-Reply-To: <4C911EC0.9000607@beatsnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009171049.55372.wolfgang@riegler.homeip.net> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:nAX2K3zMMt9yi1ZYyL1Mx7r0rRr083u6SQisxH9KxIZ EbSpLk25Y/ftx7BDKvH6ft1y2DfnEMOY8MQN0mknNmZnz4ztSK ieR96vkFiKqqcKXyhWIRHWVlD7g/MsJc0zexAu8XgcPhdJ5Cl4 jtKzJ8Z7pb831mRozYoLzTfGsfSf6JZavfZLh/t0cRKFcPip0/ v3iNV+XZsL6c5MfyA5dEEalKjh8YcBT+B0JPpgo9bs= Subject: Re: gateway_enable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:02:35 -0000 Thank you for your support. You're right, our administrator has to add a route back to the new gateway. Am Mittwoch, 15. September 2010, 21:30:08 schrieb Beat Siegenthaler: > > On 15.09.10 21:10, Wolfgang Riegler wrote: > > > > I thought gateway_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf should be sufficient. But it doesn't work. Do I need something else? > > > > > > > Looks all ok. > But does 192.168.40.1 have a route to 192.168.50.0/24 via GW > 192.168.40.122? > > > > Internet: > > > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > > > default 192.168.40.1 UGS 0 0 rl0 > > > 127.0.0.1 link#6 UH 0 0 lo0 > > > 192.168.40.0/24 link#2 U 1 274 rl0 > > > 192.168.40.122 link#2 UHS 0 0 lo0 > > > 192.168.50.0/24 link#1 U 0 15 re0 > > > 192.168.50.1 link#1 UHS 0 0 lo0 > > > > Gruss Beat > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 09:30:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A9BA1065694 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from hp9.esiee.fr (hp9.esiee.fr [147.215.1.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37AE8FC0A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:30:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by hp9.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EF23E92D1 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:30:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id F3DC3105444E for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:30:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [147.215.1.21] (lisa.esiee.fr [147.215.1.21]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31D7105444B for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:30:22 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C93352E.2000803@esiee.fr> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:30:22 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Problem with lagg driver at 8.1 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:30:24 -0000 Hello I am unable to make the lagg driver to work at 8.1 , it works well on another machine that runs 7.2 is there a problem with LAGG driver and Cisco switches at 8.1 ? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 10:58:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61EE10656C1 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:58:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4868FC15 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:58:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwYeA-0001Vh-6l for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:58:26 +0200 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:58:26 +0200 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:58:26 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:58:20 +0200 Lines: 163 Message-ID: References: <4C92DD2A.4030609@telenix.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010709090609070307000601" X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100518 Thunderbird/3.0.4 In-Reply-To: <4C92DD2A.4030609@telenix.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Subject: Re: Need bsd make for AIX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:58:29 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010709090609070307000601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 09/17/10 05:14, Chuck Robey wrote: > On 09/16/10 20:34, Ivan Voras wrote: >> On 09/16/10 08:58, srividya.k@tcs.com wrote: >>> Hi >>> Is there any BSD make versions available for AIX platform? >>> We require the make utility of BSD to compile few source programs. >>> >>> Is there any make utility compatible with AIX? Could you please give us >>> the URL where we can get the same? >> >> FreeBSD's make is an integral part of the FreeBSD file system. It is not >> created to be compatible across systems, but it is also not created to >> prevent this kind of porting. > > Wow. I disagree. It's been modified over the years to depend heavily on > a set of libraries that are available nowhere else but FreeBSD. This was The fact that it can be compiled with "gcc '-DDEFSHELLNAME="sh"' -o make *.c" indicates that it in fact doesn't use any libraries except for libc... > done (from what I can see) in the name of elegance ... because the > actual functions ARE available elsewhere, but a bunch of modifications > need to be added, no possible way is it going to compile anywhere else. Oh you're exaggerating, it's not that hard. I've made the attached patch in about 20 minutes, and most of it is including the small "lc.h" ad-hoc Linux compatibility header. 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h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jWuxHhODHiic5nYWo4dOCfDozpjODazfLb7FJub6gas=; b=QO663S0G5EEChZYjiiJhiOh06nNnll98bIrnKrEfPaItAe5PpbgIUXk4qVmap1wi0k KABpRSX7QqPK1McITQN40U3ncC39Ax3s78rYja1brrUXrhfY4Tn+c1AFfM8DMopbiIyg LlsQeqXQG+0g8VcXTh2D6LGzP8z2cqGJ1Xqt0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Ihwr2jkDRDQXonAfgmYGJEvwMZYs2WVJ4yu/zokJn5obe0uOt25lS2kq857ZItcONA JK3wpcf7QOhoCNj2L+MKaGcK5xZUFHLxXZIA8448cINY8CxtCL2w4Zs99Nh+qMBJm55T yvBx3QC+acF1tAkwFr06oY9fwWxMqsR+KdI7U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.250.133 with SMTP id mo5mr3426836qcb.99.1284721323928; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 04:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.190.66 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 04:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:02:03 +0200 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:02:05 -0000 There seems to be a problem with starting up the IMAP proxy server imapproxyd: # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd start says Starting imapproxyd. but doesn't return the # prompt ... # ps -jawx | grep imap root 21490 21426 21490 64248 1 S+ 3 0:00.01 /bin/sh /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd start root 21496 21490 21490 64218 1 S+ 3 0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/in.imapproxyd I would expect the /bin/sh line to disappear and the # prompt to come back. If (from another terminal window) I do # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd stop is says Stopping imapproxyd. # (returns the prompt) If the first window, it says: Terminated /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd: WARNING: failed to start imapproxyd ?? 1. what is wrong here and how to correct it ? 2. also, although I do have a user nobody and a group nobody in FreeBSD 8 and the config file /usr/local/etc/imapproxyd.conf specifies (default setting) proc_username nobody proc_groupname nobody I wonder why the processes (ps -jawx) show root as the process owner ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 11:05:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3FC106566C for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:05:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70DAB8FC08 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwYka-0004od-L4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:05:04 +0200 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:05:04 +0200 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:05:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:02:21 +0200 Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <4C92DD2A.4030609@telenix.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100518 Thunderbird/3.0.4 In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Subject: Re: Need bsd make for AIX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:05:09 -0000 On 09/17/10 12:58, Ivan Voras wrote: > I don't claim the patched make will work perfectly but it works for > simple cases :) Also archived here (with the lc.h missed in previous version): http://people.freebsd.org/~ivoras/diffs/make-lc.patch From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 11:35:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D20106564A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:35:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gautham@lisphacker.org) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9CA8FC08 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:35:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so3024838wyb.13 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 04:35:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.145.198 with SMTP id p48mr4099879wej.18.1284723309103; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 04:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.158.146 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 04:35:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:35:09 +0100 Message-ID: From: Gautham Ganapathy To: srividya.k@tcs.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Masoom Shaikh , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need bsd make for AIX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:35:11 -0000 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:40 PM, wrote: > We have some open source code for RPC calls - DCE that has c programs and > corresponding makefiles. > When we tried gmake or make ( AIX make) , we were getting syntax errors. > We found that all the makefiles had syntax that corresponds to makeutility > of BSD? > > Do you have any alternative? > Is there any BSD make utility that can be installed in AIX machine? > > Srividya K > Tata Consultancy Services > Mailto: srividya.k@tcs.com > Website: http://www.tcs.com > ____________________________________________ Perhaps you could contact the authors of the code you are trying to compile and ask them how they did it. They might have a straightforward solution and maybe a reason as to why they chose BSD make Also, have you tried bmake? Regards Gautham Ganapathy http://lisphacker.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 12:07:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860771065670 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E948FC16 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-147.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.147]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C951E83A; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:07:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8HC7NCF001558; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:07:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:07:23 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Robert Ames Message-Id: <20100917140723.ad984afa.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Plextor PX-870A drives X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:07:26 -0000 On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:40:49 -0400, Robert Ames wrote: > > I have a couple of Plextor PX-870A drives in different machines > (see below) that I'm trying to use with atapicam. The drives mostly > work (booting, reading data, etc.) but for whatever reason neither > of them will play audio CDs using the "cdcontrol play" command. > They just sit there. The drives never spin up. Have you made sure that this drive can actually play audio CDs? I assume that drive exist that can't. It's easy to check: # cdrecord -prcap -dev 0,0,0 Watch for the line "Does play audio CDs". This assumes you have ATAPICAM facility loaded. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 12:12:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6BB106564A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc2-cmbg1-0-0-cust385.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com [82.21.105.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133AA8FC20 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan by catflap.slightlystrange.org with local (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OwZbB-000OZZ-Se for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:59:25 +0100 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:59:25 +0100 From: Daniel Bye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100917115925.GA58299@catflap.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE amd64 Sender: Daniel Bye Subject: Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:12:49 -0000 --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 01:02:03PM +0200, n dhert wrote: > There seems to be a problem with starting up the IMAP proxy server > imapproxyd: > # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd start > says > Starting imapproxyd. > but doesn't return the # prompt ... > # ps -jawx | grep imap > root 21490 21426 21490 64248 1 S+ 3 0:00.01 /bin/sh > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd start > root 21496 21490 21490 64218 1 S+ 3 0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/in.imapprox= yd >=20 > I would expect the /bin/sh line to disappear and the # prompt to come bac= k. And so it should. I have just installed and tested it, and it works fine. The only way I can replicate the behaviour you report is if I misspell the name of the backend IMAP server - so start checking there. If it's not a typo, it is likely some other variety of DNS error. >=20 > If (from another terminal window) I do > # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd stop > is says > Stopping imapproxyd. > # (returns the prompt) >=20 > If the first window, it says: > Terminated > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd: WARNING: failed to start imapproxyd > ?? >=20 > 1. what is wrong here and how to correct it ? >=20 > 2. also, although I do have a user nobody and a group nobody in FreeBSD 8 > and the config file /usr/local/etc/imapproxyd.conf specifies (default > setting) > proc_username nobody > proc_groupname nobody > I wonder why the processes (ps -jawx) show root as the process owner ? It will need to start as root in order to bind all the resources it needs, before dropping privileges. Remember that only root can bind ports below 1024. It works fine here. Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkyTWB0ACgkQixf5fBYiFmpgqQCgvytDyE0bgMWXlawFeeGH4rTo n4UAn3Twt6OYVnqs8rkANX2jwGRK37DT =zW4E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 12:24:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 503C61065695 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:24:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robertames@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc2-s28.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s28.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244678FC13 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SNT131-W60 ([65.55.90.73]) by snt0-omc2-s28.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:24:09 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [76.182.239.110] From: Robert Ames To: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:24:09 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20100917140723.ad984afa.freebsd@edvax.de> References: , <20100917140723.ad984afa.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Sep 2010 12:24:09.0872 (UTC) FILETIME=[3AD10900:01CB5663] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Plextor PX-870A drives X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:24:10 -0000 It claims to be able to play audio CDs. $ cdrecord -prcap -dev 2=2C0=2C0 scsidev: '2=2C0=2C0' scsibus: 2 target: 0 lun: 0 Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i386-unknown-freebsd8.0) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 J\xf6= rg Schilling Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. Device type : Removable CD-ROM Version : 0 Response Format: 3 Capabilities : Vendor_info : 'PLEXTOR ' Identifikation : 'DVDR PX-870A ' Revision : '1.06' =20 Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. =20 Drive capabilities=2C per MMC-3 page 2A: =20 Does read CD-R media Does write CD-R media Does read CD-RW media Does write CD-RW media Does read DVD-ROM media Does read DVD-R media Does write DVD-R media Does read DVD-RAM media Does write DVD-RAM media Does support test writing Does read Mode 2 Form 1 blocks Does read Mode 2 Form 2 blocks Does read digital audio blocks Does restart non-streamed digital audio reads accurately Does support Buffer-Underrun-Free recording Does read multi-session CDs Does read fixed-packet CD media using Method 2 Does not read CD bar code Does read R-W subcode information Does return R-W subcode de-interleaved and error-corrected Does read raw P-W subcode data from lead in Does return CD media catalog number Does return CD ISRC information Does support C2 error pointers Does not deliver composite A/V data Does play audio CDs Number of volume control levels: 256 Does support individual volume control setting for each channel Does support independent mute setting for each channel Does not support digital output on port 1 Does not support digital output on port 2 Loading mechanism type: tray Does support ejection of CD via START/STOP command Does not lock media on power up via prevent jumper Does allow media to be locked in the drive via PREVENT/ALLOW command Is not currently in a media-locked state Does not support changing side of disk Does not have load-empty-slot-in-changer feature Does not support Individual Disk Present feature Maximum read speed: 8468 kB/s (CD 48x=2C DVD 6x) Current read speed: 8468 kB/s (CD 48x=2C DVD 6x) Maximum write speed: 8468 kB/s (CD 48x=2C DVD 6x) Current write speed: 8468 kB/s (CD 48x=2C DVD 6x) Rotational control selected: CLV/PCAV Buffer size in KB: 2048 Copy management revision supported: 1 Number of supported write speeds: 10 Write speed # 0: 8467 kB/s CAV (CD 48x=2C DVD 6x) Write speed # 1: 7056 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 40x=2C DVD 5x) Write speed # 2: 5645 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 32x=2C DVD 4x) Write speed # 3: 4234 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 24x=2C DVD 3x) Write speed # 4: 2822 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 16x=2C DVD 2x) Write speed # 5: 1411 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 8x=2C DVD 1x) Write speed # 6: 0 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 0x=2C DVD 0x) Write speed # 7: 0 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 0x=2C DVD 0x) Write speed # 8: 0 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 0x=2C DVD 0x) Write speed # 9: 0 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 0x=2C DVD 0x) > Date: Fri=2C 17 Sep 2010 14:07:23 +0200 > From: freebsd@edvax.de > To: robertames@hotmail.com > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Plextor PX-870A drives >=20 > On Thu=2C 16 Sep 2010 22:40:49 -0400=2C Robert Ames wrote: > >=20 > > I have a couple of Plextor PX-870A drives in different machines > > (see below) that I'm trying to use with atapicam. The drives mostly > > work (booting=2C reading data=2C etc.) but for whatever reason neither > > of them will play audio CDs using the "cdcontrol play" command. > > They just sit there. The drives never spin up.=20 >=20 > Have you made sure that this drive can actually play audio CDs? > I assume that drive exist that can't. It's easy to check: >=20 > # cdrecord -prcap -dev 0=2C0=2C0 >=20 > Watch for the line "Does play audio CDs". This assumes you have > ATAPICAM facility loaded. >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg=2C Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe=2C Mousa=2C ... = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 12:47:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3541065672 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:47:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djr@pdconsec.net) Received: from ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3B08FC12 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:47:44 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlMFACf8kkyWZcBC/2dsb2JhbACUMY5gwU6FQASFHogJCgY Received: from goliath.pdconsec.net (HELO smtp.pdconsec.net) ([150.101.192.66]) by ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net with SMTP; 17 Sep 2010 22:02:26 +0930 Received: from mail1.pdconsec.net ([192.168.1.41] helo=mail1.pdconsec.net) with IPv4:25 by smtp.pdconsec.net; 17 Sep 2010 22:32:25 +1000 Received: from smtp.pdconsec.net ([192.168.1.32] RDNS failed) by mail1.pdconsec.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:31:10 +1000 Received: from [10.14.6.41] ([150.101.192.69] helo=[10.14.6.41]) with IPv4:10025 by smtp.pdconsec.net; 17 Sep 2010 22:32:25 +1000 Message-ID: <4C935F8E.8080804@pdconsec.net> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:31:10 +1000 From: David Rawling User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Sep 2010 12:31:10.0586 (UTC) FILETIME=[3594E5A0:01CB5664] Subject: Re: Windows AD and ntpd sync problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:47:45 -0000 On 13/09/2010 4:45 PM, Omer Faruk SEN wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to sync my time against a ntp server on Active Directory > but no matter what i do ntpd did not sync against AD's NTP server. > ntpdate works perfectly against AD but not ntpd. I think you will have trouble doing this. AD's time service is not a true NTP service - it's SNTP with a dash of smarts around increasing frequency and backing off, plus automatic selection of masters / distribution hierarchy. I'd suggest setting up the NTP server to use the NTP Pool project (pool.ntp.org, or the appropriate country subdomain) and configuring AD to synchronise to the NTP server (that should work fine). Dave. -- David Rawling PD Consulting And Security Mob: +61 412 135 513 Email: djr@pdconsec.net Please note that whilst we take all care, neither PD Consulting and Security nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan for viruses. The contents are intended only for use by the addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material and any use by other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please inform the sender and/or addressee immediately and delete the material. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 15:53:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292D4106567A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:53:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfunk6@cox.net) Received: from eastrmmtai104.cox.net (eastrmmtai104.cox.net [68.230.240.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CABC18FC15 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao107.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20100917152849.WHXL21335.eastrmmtao107.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:28:49 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.0.73.73]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id 7rUh1f00V1asDc402rUoDW; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:28:48 -0400 X-VR-Score: -163.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Cpsp9XuSY13Uni36OgXCsheP7uKp19gQdVzN1WEXNos= c=1 sm=1 a=czRo_-E02rwA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=cldQwrSUzPq7T4OJ8kWhDA==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=gquIgkZ4AAAA:8 a=nCiPXCxoAAAA:8 a=5B89tSi2AAAA:8 a=3ciEk-yHAAAA:8 a=GwUem0DFAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=0KEth88WIqcClLOjf8QA:9 a=zJ2i4WK6Sj-J_tSvh5sA:7 a=PiwlO2Ne-93CQg7JylsAWMHgIRQA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=oiAI9zGv958A:10 a=UlFRTZGWNcIA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=cldQwrSUzPq7T4OJ8kWhDA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=dfunk6@cox.net Message-ID: <4C93892A.1020708@cox.net> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:28:42 -0500 From: Derek Funk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100824 Thunderbird/3.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100917081249.2a101981.cyb.@gmx.net> <28e7249799bdca81a7aee1cb2670506b.squirrel@pop.pknet.net> In-Reply-To: <28e7249799bdca81a7aee1cb2670506b.squirrel@pop.pknet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100917-0, 09/17/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:53:10 -0000 On 9/17/2010 2:14 AM, Peter wrote: >> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:45:54 +0100 >> Chabane HEMDANI wrote: >> >> >>> I've search, read, learn, follow instructions about nearly all the >>> web-documentation about installing a new printer to work under cups >>> without >>> any success. I've an HP Laser Jet 1018 printer and tools given by >>> package >>> print/hplip don't work correctly. >>> >>> I'm using FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE >>> I've rebuild a kernel without ulpt. >>> I modified my /etc/rc.conf to enable cupsd and hpiod and hpssd. >>> I modified /etc/devfs.rules like suggested by cups (see pkg_info -D >>> cups-base-1.4.4 ). >>> I've made many other configurations like that suggested at >>> http://diablotins.org/index.php/Imprimer,_hplip >>> >>> >> >>> and finally, I've given to my students the wrong answer that "no one >>> can >>> print under FreeBSD !" >>> >> Which is wrong, all you need is a printer, that is _supported_. >> >> >>> Please where is the problem? >>> >> The LaserJet 1018 uses another protocol, so you need aditional software. >> Take a look at these sites: >> http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_1018 >> http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/ >> >> Before buying the next printer, see whether or not it is supported by >> Cups http://www.cups.org/ppd.php . Same goes for your students. >> >> Andreas >> -- >> GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ >> Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 >> >> > I got an HP Laser 1018 - works perfectly fine using the foo2zjs drivers, > and I do believe ultp0. I can send you my configs once I get home if you > want. The real pain which I keep forgetting after a reload or on new pc, > was having to initialize [cat firmware> /dev/ulpt0] each time the > computer is rebooted [ie @reboot in cron]. > > ]Peter[ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > The issue I tend to get is cups doesnt have permission to access the /dev/ulpt... i have to add an entry in devfs.conf to all it to print From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 16:18:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61231065696; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:18:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf11.insightbb.com (mxsf11.insightbb.com [74.128.0.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF7F8FC35; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:18:44 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,383,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="205593388" Received: from unknown (HELO asav01.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf11.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 17 Sep 2010 12:18:43 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj4uANIxk0xKgCiCPGdsb2JhbACiJAwBAQEBNS3DYYVABIlJ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,383,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="282291966" Received: from 74-128-40-130.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.128.40.130]) by asavout01.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 17 Sep 2010 12:18:43 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich To: Wayne Sierke Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:18:36 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.1; i386; ; ) References: <201009111442.49114.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <201009151827.04122.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <1284624764.20540.650.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> In-Reply-To: <1284624764.20540.650.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009171218.38065.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Cc: Alexander Best , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apropos returning same item twice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:18:45 -0000 On Thursday 16 September 2010 4:12:44 am Wayne Sierke wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 18:27 -0400, Steven Friedrich wrote: > > On Wednesday 15 September 2010 12:39:15 pm Wayne Sierke wrote: > > > On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 00:37 +0000, Alexander Best wrote: > > > > On Sat Sep 11 10, Steven Friedrich wrote: > > > > > Why does apropos list mysql(1) twice? > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't return duplicates with apropos kde... > > > > > > > > maybe you have a gzip'ed and plain version in /usr ? > > > > > > > > see PR #4419. > > > > > > > > cheers. > > > > alex > > > > > > Are you certain that /etc/manpath.config doesn't just still > > > have /usr/X11R6/man configured (as well as /usr/local/man)? Admittedly > > > the kde issue is a mystery, assuming its manpages are installed > > > in /usr/local/man. This system has the following: > > > > > > OPTIONAL_MANPATH /usr/local/man > > > # (disabled by xorg-libraries port) OPTIONAL_MANPATH /usr/X11R6/man > > > > > > MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin /usr/local/man > > > # (disabled by xorg-libraries port) > > > MANPATH_MAP /usr/X11R6/bin /usr/X11R6/man > > > > > > > > > Is the whatis file being updated? Check the timestamp: > > > > > > # ls -l /usr/local/man/whatis > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 273178 Sep 11 04:22 /usr/local/man/whatis > > > > > > > > > Wayne > > > > > > > > admin@laptop2(/dev/pts/1)/usr/home/admin 106% apropos mysql > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > I still have X11R6 in usr symlinked to /usr/local. This was done per > > entry 20070519 in /usr/ports/UPDATING. > > > > Do we still need this symlink? > > Yes, anything that references /usr/X11R6 gets directed to /usr/local. Well I temporarily removed it and this anomaly disappeared. Perhaps we just have to suffer until we know the symlink can be removed. I thought it was going to eventually be removed... > > Did you check /etc/manpath.config and the timestamp > on /usr/local/man/whatis? > grep -v '^#' manpath.config MANDATORY_MANPATH /usr/share/man MANDATORY_MANPATH /usr/share/openssl/man OPTIONAL_MANPATH /usr/local/man MANPATH_MAP /bin /usr/share/man MANPATH_MAP /usr/bin /usr/share/man MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin /usr/local/man OPTIONAL_MANPATH /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.12.2/man OPTIONAL_MANPATH /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.12.2/perl/man > Another check is that the output of manpath(1) doesn't > include /usr/X11R6/man. > manpath /usr/share/man:/usr/local/man:/usr/local/kde4/man:/usr/share/openssl/man:/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.12.2/man:/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.12.2/perl/man > > Wayne -- System Name: laptop2.StevenFriedrich.org Hardware: 2.80GHz Intel Pentium 4 (HTT) with 2 GB memory OS version: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE i386 (6.9 MB kernel) manager(s): kde4-4.5.1 X windows: xorg-7.5 X.Org X Server 1.7.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 16:53:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE5D1065670 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:53:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf11.insightbb.com (mxsf11.insightbb.com [74.128.0.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1AD8FC16 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:53:20 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,383,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="205624222" Received: from unknown (HELO asav00.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf11.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 17 Sep 2010 12:53:20 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApdGAI45k0xKgCiCPGdsb2JhbACEF4NWjEcBAY1uDAEBAQE1LcQZhUAE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,383,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="45628727" Received: from 74-128-40-130.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.128.40.130]) by asavout00.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 17 Sep 2010 12:53:19 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Steven Friedrich Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:53:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009171253.13675.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Subject: Latest KDE 4.5.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:53:21 -0000 Can anyone install the Fortune plasma widget? It doen't show up in my widget box, and I even tried to install the downloaded plasmoid I found in /tmp/kde-admin. No joy. I'm trying to discover if this anomaly is everywhere, or I just need to rebuild something.. -- System Name: laptop2.StevenFriedrich.org Hardware: 2.80GHz Intel Pentium 4 (HTT) with 2 GB memory OS version: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE i386 (6.9 MB kernel) manager(s): kde4-4.5.1 X windows: xorg-7.5 X.Org X Server 1.7.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 18:01:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35A4106566C for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:01:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352DC8FC0A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:01:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o8HHAu85012725; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:10:56 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o8HHAuBg012719; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:10:56 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2244C33C3D; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:10:56 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:10:56 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Chabane HEMDANI Message-ID: <20100917171056.GA72692@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:01:41 -0000 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 01:45:54AM +0100, Chabane HEMDANI wrote: > > I'm computer science teacher at university of Tizi-ouzou in Algeria. I'm > using FreeBSD since 2007 when I "discover" it by chance when searching in > the Web something about Linux. > Since that date, I always invited and recommended to my students to install > and use this "magical" and my favorite system. > > However, all my students retort me that they have a problem of installing > their printers. I have so this problem, so I can't tell good-bye > definitively to winosor and Linux. I always need them for printing. > > I've search, read, learn, follow instructions about nearly all the > web-documentation about installing a new printer to work under cups without > any success. I've an HP Laser Jet 1018 printer and tools given by package > print/hplip don't work correctly. > > I'm using FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE > I've rebuild a kernel without ulpt. > I modified my /etc/rc.conf to enable cupsd and hpiod and hpssd. > I modified /etc/devfs.rules like suggested by cups (see pkg_info -D > cups-base-1.4.4 ). > I've made many other configurations like that suggested at > http://diablotins.org/index.php/Imprimer,_hplip > > and finally, I've given to my students the wrong answer that "no one can > print under FreeBSD !" > > > > Please where is the problem? > Please help me to help others. > Please help me to enlarge the FreeBSD users community. Many congratulations on your efforts to promote FreeBSD! I'm not going to tell you how to print with CUPS as it's too complicated and fragile for my liking. Have you thought about using lpd(8)? If your printer can understand Postscript (and I believe HP Laserjets can) then this can be a fairly simple process as you just send the raw PS to the printer with lpr(1) via a spool and filter. My filter: #!/bin/sh cat - echo "\f" # and my printcap(5) isn't overly complicated either and the format is well documented in it's manpage. Most Unix applications can produce Postscript or PDF (which can be converted to PS with ps2pdf which comes with Ghostscript) and LaTeX can produce PS with dvips. I recommend LaTeX for all users, especially university based users who are going to produce thesis/technical docs. Anyway, just a thought. Setting up lpd is documented in the Handbook of course. If your printer can't speak Postscript then you have to use Ghostscript and something like apsfilter with lpd. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 18:04:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D141065672 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F828FC08 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:04:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk8 with SMTP id 8so1012515gxk.13 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:04:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JufkiRIACJEq6J3wzQUpX07kAes5xClUmZNhOl0Wmmw=; b=SM62D5GOZaagE/jYUqxclKGLQ12yQSAV8HFu70G8bme7uhazx4v/9Q96xfPEnWotvJ 4k3AXw4MbCroeapoj5YXk54YjkApUQF/jsirrm8RJNPzBtHJXF9+TyGN/ycKDLh29JB0 yL/d/2K7cKUBPDhVWWZ8fjv6lk6rrIuEGBz1U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JLVARciCnZE6pUxhM7jMZFBwPRZLrg2zHebMBeKeEP7N3dBUCEeKJiOZHltcVSXAX+ 5VheX+wBwK2hBEUlIRCu8koYNA24FFI7CNmY/WChWJhSeMGsg6D0XmUdfR04ohhl2BSk hHQYLiopux2QgsDOYnaQ6FqeWKt3d8inU2El8= Received: by 10.100.225.6 with SMTP id x6mr6040706ang.0.1284746680536; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (c-24-14-170-47.hsd1.il.comcast.net [24.14.170.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c19sm6529125ana.22.2010.09.17.11.04.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C93ADB4.6020000@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:04:36 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: , <20100917140723.ad984afa.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Plextor PX-870A drives X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:04:41 -0000 On 9/17/2010 7:24 AM, Robert Ames wrote: > > It claims to be able to play audio CDs. > There's two things I can think of. With cdcontrol on a cd-rw drive I have, it needs the cd audio cable hooked up from the drive to the motherboard or else it's silent. My dvd-rw drive doesn't have that port but I haven't tested audio cd's in it. It's possible the "does play audio cd's" is about reading the format rather than playing, and I believe cdcontrol tells the drive to play instead of the OS playing it. You could try another media player to see if it'll play the disc or if you can rip the tracks off. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 18:36:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B4F106564A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:36:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC378FC16 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:36:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7oL71f00417UAYkAAuc3F1; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:36:03 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.9] ([70.89.202.1]) by omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7uc11f00C02K3z28Zuc2L3; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:36:03 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <4C93ADB4.6020000@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:36:01 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1D16D2D4-D906-4678-9AA1-A8E182F04F49@cwis.biz> References: , <20100917140723.ad984afa.freebsd@edvax.de> <4C93ADB4.6020000@gmail.com> To: Joshua Isom X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Plextor PX-870A drives X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:36:05 -0000 On Sep 17, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Joshua Isom wrote: > On 9/17/2010 7:24 AM, Robert Ames wrote: >>=20 >> It claims to be able to play audio CDs. >>=20 >=20 > There's two things I can think of. With cdcontrol on a cd-rw drive I = have, it needs the cd audio cable hooked up from the drive to the = motherboard or else it's silent. My dvd-rw drive doesn't have that port = but I haven't tested audio cd's in it. It's possible the "does play = audio cd's" is about reading the format rather than playing, and I = believe cdcontrol tells the drive to play instead of the OS playing it. = You could try another media player to see if it'll play the disc or if = you can rip the tracks off. So you should plug headphones into the front? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 18:39:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2A910656AA for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447498FC12 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:39:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8HId7SS074244; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:39:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o8HId7JS074241; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:39:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:39:07 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Frank Shute In-Reply-To: <20100917171056.GA72692@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <20100917171056.GA72692@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:39:07 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Chabane HEMDANI Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:39:08 -0000 On Fri, 17 Sep 2010, Frank Shute wrote: > I'm not going to tell you how to print with CUPS as it's too > complicated and fragile for my liking. Agreed. > Have you thought about using lpd(8)? If your printer can understand > Postscript (and I believe HP Laserjets can) then this can be a fairly > simple process as you just send the raw PS to the printer with lpr(1) > via a spool and filter. > > My filter: > > #!/bin/sh > > cat - > echo "\f" > > # That might not even be necessary; it just adds a formfeed to the job, which PostScript doesn't need. Helps with some PCL jobs, and PS printers usually do PCL also. > and my printcap(5) isn't overly complicated either and the format is > well documented in it's manpage. My lpd doc is an attempt to put everything about lpd in one place, with simple but complete examples: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 18:40:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8996E10656A7 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476D88FC0A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:40:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-147.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.147]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7205C1EB27; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:24:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8HIOEuN001895; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:24:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:24:14 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Frank Shute Message-Id: <20100917202414.8d259989.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100917171056.GA72692@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20100917171056.GA72692@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Chabane HEMDANI Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:40:01 -0000 On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:10:56 +0100, Frank Shute wrote: > I'm not going to tell you how to print with CUPS as it's too > complicated and fragile for my liking. If you have a printer that understands at least SOME standards, maybe you want to look at apsfilter instead of CUPS; apsfilter is a lightweight, but still powerful collection of printer filters that supports many standards. > Have you thought about using lpd(8)? If your printer can understand > Postscript (and I believe HP Laserjets can) then this can be a fairly > simple process as you just send the raw PS to the printer with lpr(1) > via a spool and filter. If the printer can understand PCL, as many HP Laserjet products do (at least the professional ones from "office class" product lines), you can also use apsfilter for that. In this case, it's even to be considered an overhead as apsfilter uses gs (ghostscript) to turn the PS input into PCL. A short read of "man gs" should give you all you need to know about how to use PCL for your printer. Oh, and professional office-class printers usually are networked printers, so no need to mess with silly USB. :-) > Most Unix applications can produce Postscript or PDF (which can be > converted to PS with ps2pdf which comes with Ghostscript) and LaTeX > can produce PS with dvips. Postscript is *the* default output format for printing in UNIX in general, as well as in X. For LaTeX, there's pdflatex to produce PDF output directly, a very useful tool for automated document production and printing. (Yes, you don't need "Acrobat Reader" to print PDF files, you can just use "lpr *.pdf" to get a stack of PDF files printed without any further interaction.) > I recommend LaTeX for all users, especially university based users who > are going to produce thesis/technical docs. Absolutely. > If your printer can't speak Postscript then you have to use > Ghostscript and something like apsfilter with lpd. As I mentioned. Sadly, there nowadays is a whole bunch of printing stuff, obsoleting one unified system that is to be used for printing. What comes to my mind? Of course CUPS, hpijs, Gutenprint, Foomatic, Gimp-print, several deamons and datafiles... what a mess - it's almost like "WIndows". Sorry. I would like to have ONE thing that is used for printing, and that does support ALL printers, and that does not force the user to search the web (bah!) for some arbitrary binary files. Of course, that's what printer manufacturers seem to want: Incompatible, non-standard and complicated crap, requiring bloated software to run. That's not how UNIX experience should be. My take: Whenever possible, get a professional printer. Think BEFORE you buy it. Even used (!) office-class hardware is acceptable. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 19:11:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2395106564A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 19:11:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA8A8FC12 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 19:11:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o8HIwHaO045414; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:58:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 07613BA8E; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:58:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:58:16 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Chabane HEMDANI Message-ID: <20100917185816.GA20973@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20100917171056.GA72692@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gKMricLos+KVdGMg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100917171056.GA72692@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Frank Shute , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 19:11:32 -0000 --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 06:10:56PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote: > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 01:45:54AM +0100, Chabane HEMDANI wrote: > > > > I'm computer science teacher at university of Tizi-ouzou in Algeria. I= 'm > > using FreeBSD since 2007 when I "discover" it by chance when searching = in > > the Web something about Linux. > > Since that date, I always invited and recommended to my students to in= stall > > and use this "magical" and my favorite system. > >=20 > > However, all my students retort me that they have a problem of installi= ng > > their printers. I have so this problem, so I can't tell good-bye > > definitively to winosor and Linux. I always need them for printing. > >=20 > > I've search, read, learn, follow instructions about nearly all the > > web-documentation about installing a new printer to work under cups wit= hout > > any success. I've an HP Laser Jet 1018 printer and tools given by pack= age > > print/hplip don't work correctly. According to http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_1018 it is best to use the foo2zjs driver: http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/ But it only works= in black and white. > > Please where is the problem? Printers these days are by-and-large built for MS windoze, without much thought for other operating systems. So they tend to use unpublished communications protocols or only work with the driver that works on windoze. When shopping for a printer, preferably look for one that understands the PostScript page description language. Those will work in FreeBSD and Linux without problems. These tend to be more high-end models, and may be more expensive when new. Secondhand they are probably more affordable, especially for students! If that is not an option, try for a printer that is supported by ghostscript (the print/ghostscript8 port) You can see the printers it supports by runni= ng 'make config' in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript8. Printers that use the PCL (= HP) or ESC/P (epson) printing protocols should work without problems. Alternatively look for a printer that is supported by the "gutenprint" driv= er; http://www.openprinting.org/driver/gutenprint/ When you are thinking about buying a certain model of printer, _always_ che= ck the openprinting database to see if it will work _before_ buying it: http://www.openprinting.org/printers > Postscript (and I believe HP Laserjets can) then this can be a fairly Some do, particularly high-end models. Most consumer-oriented stuff does no= t. Hope this helps! Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkyTukgACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWpqwCgniEdiyp45zg8BmEzFvT+qsEJ PMYAoJoxJztBN0rDuwePgqxc/zafDP/i =K9xg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gKMricLos+KVdGMg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 20:45:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02137106564A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1FC8FC14 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:45:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb31 with SMTP id 31so1436739wwb.1 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:45:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=jN6X1klxsqVHo7lOzu1WIoQ7lN96oBamwt1o2uEqSBQ=; b=kZYBvUsC2U1JDieTjLsVo+HEdkjARBXijSgS8VzgxtC1/KTWYue2Tf4YVJUvCyrJza b9QKxdlGAp6RVnvwHQGt6P8/ZCEuqNrnVjV3OtLsjZ2Fk80PCpTlJUTmavw1mnwDsrLN 4qJvLNRsJF0gCJg6DI6W2m0PC12Mx/Jskwu4U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=BGyZIKGfm4UxAkcPHUGYkYceOd3qTUDMyIhdMs3UJyODNnP1KDDGQStuNOk/BIZ4E/ zIe3hA6a0G77NbB9pfLGDKv+GsTpCW/BM2DQJ/0MTHv2U02L4AIFc4MdElGQCHU81bjv 6FQYxfEU8E+qeZdA8kAVTz3EuJl8N+PvG7qm4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.135.15 with SMTP id l15mr4542485wbt.203.1284756340447; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.137.133 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:45:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201009161818.56077.lobo@bsd.com.br> References: <201009161818.56077.lobo@bsd.com.br> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:45:40 -0600 Message-ID: From: Modulok To: Mario Lobo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:45:42 -0000 >> I have an old box I want to turn into a file server backup machine. >> Unfortunately, the mainboard has only PATA headers. I do have three >> PCI slots though, so I was looking at a PCI SATA controller card that >> will get along with FreeBSD without a fuss. Nothing fancy, just >> something inexpensive that I can plug a few SATA drives into. Then >> I'll create a graid3 with them, or mess around with ZFS. Anyone using >> something worth a recommendation? >There are IDE to SATA converters. You plug it directly into the IDE connector and on the other end you have a SATA150 plug. This is news to me. I now have two on the way :) Thank you! -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 20:53:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E069106566C for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:53:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441C98FC12 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29633 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2010 20:53:17 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Sep 2010 20:53:17 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 7581E50822; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:53:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Ryan Coleman References: <20100917140723.ad984afa.freebsd@edvax.de> <4C93ADB4.6020000@gmail.com> <1D16D2D4-D906-4678-9AA1-A8E182F04F49@cwis.biz> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:53:16 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1D16D2D4-D906-4678-9AA1-A8E182F04F49@cwis.biz> (Ryan Coleman's message of "Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:36:01 -0500") Message-ID: <44eicshz2b.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Joshua Isom , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Plextor PX-870A drives X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:53:18 -0000 Ryan Coleman writes: > On Sep 17, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Joshua Isom wrote: > >> On 9/17/2010 7:24 AM, Robert Ames wrote: >>> >>> It claims to be able to play audio CDs. >>> >> >> There's two things I can think of. With cdcontrol on a cd-rw drive I have, it needs the cd audio cable hooked up from the drive to the motherboard or else it's silent. My dvd-rw drive doesn't have that port but I haven't tested audio cd's in it. It's possible the "does play audio cd's" is about reading the format rather than playing, and I believe cdcontrol tells the drive to play instead of the OS playing it. You could try another media player to see if it'll play the disc or if you can rip the tracks off. > > So you should plug headphones into the front? If there's a headphone jack on the front of the *drive*, then yes, that will probably work. What was intended, though, was probably to suggest that instead of cdcontrol(1), you install and try a cd playing program that supports "digital extraction". Most programs in ports/audio that can play CDs at all will be able to handle this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 22:02:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4DB71065697 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:02:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaflatooni@yahoo.com) Received: from web51801.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51801.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D7008FC14 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 75306 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Sep 2010 21:36:08 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1284759368; bh=zRh+LIEEfV6+ifwewUBg7/yvk86pMJxwb96jAUgVoSs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EyQWuw3pJ0SN4G6isdm7ORCUusHNABKq2WuEmbTeyqzDMwExhrk7Upon7GVuXqpPdeL/GS+1Cgk4pS83UN2bXHreZvoYqkWGtn8ysreHroHQq5sKwCwp06cHzt5mtFi9Ky77rV5V5UgAvJZ4i2tdc5ldUK0icphMNF02XgdQ9AU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Lwnr9Dkn/q33r8H+Q1PFdtmPcppwqHG/EcSMWQgOYudUovrQZtMLf/BXMK7Dv/CJiS9mGo1U10/TXkm9a1B1ztBCc9jFN9v8saNQ1w96IcJjlqCxR2AbKz7y697YbmkaghQmax1JJZJIKZJvkUquhW/rHpHnnlY+BgWPW3u648A=; Message-ID: <26988.74794.qm@web51801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: PAIQGp8VM1n8QlTgtIZQnnecHkyklu7VSoETVWphYbIbOGC 6RU3SVRr_osfv9qV8NHEL247G_QZBqqGy3.WdgEE_GU2d8DSmDCxCTY5rNF5 Z0yv2C1PpvuDJWGhM.oO8PGt5tBV1p21kUl5yZdzqepQVXc7tEAW0ONs84Cl CiP.69xwlGQkMjkYw.GJnod2ItnLDpL_S1GQuStBhFMwKTl.MUk64u98qhV0 WUVlVCijfcXI3ojW0SjqBDGJarvVG9_Gha6dJAcLSGaHcw1NWkR6FmYrF65U xADF6ii2VCUI9xREX5YqnaBMCSYFXF1NILVkGONRnxC.sLNRqFvo5gtthzQ1 ytsMO4x40ZcNwZI._I2iLtO5b2rKa Received: from [24.114.255.99] by web51801.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:36:07 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/497 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:36:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Aflatoon Aflatooni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Can I compile sendmail simply through the ports collection? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:02:50 -0000 Hi, I was wondering if I can simply recompile sendmail from the ports collection for FreeBSD 7.1 server. I need to recompile the sendmail on the server to add Cyrus SASL2 support. The instructions on FreeBSD point to src /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail which doesn't exist and I was wondering if I could simply recompile using the ports collection. Here is the instructions about compiling the Cyrus sasl2 support: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/smtp-auth.html Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 22:13:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93C4106566C for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:13:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B729D8FC1C for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:13:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o8HMDXNv057051 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:13:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o8HMDXB5057050; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA11846; Fri, 17 Sep 10 15:10:50 PDT Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:10:45 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd@edvax.de Message-Id: <4c93e765.iednoY3/JBBqSNBq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20100917171056.GA72692@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20100917202414.8d259989.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100917202414.8d259989.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:13:42 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > I would like to have ONE thing that is used for printing, and that > does support ALL printers ... Isn't that exactly what CUPS is supposed to be? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 22:37:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E085106566C for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:37:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF498FC17 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:37:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8HMbkcn089671 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 17 Sep 2010 23:37:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C93EDB2.3040307@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 23:37:38 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aflatoon Aflatooni References: <26988.74794.qm@web51801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <26988.74794.qm@web51801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD6CC8513C8A923322D940A0E" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can I compile sendmail simply through the ports collection? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:37:57 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD6CC8513C8A923322D940A0E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 17/09/2010 22:36:07, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > Hi, > I was wondering if I can simply recompile sendmail from the ports colle= ction for=20 > FreeBSD 7.1 server. > I need to recompile the sendmail on the server to add Cyrus SASL2 suppo= rt. The=20 > instructions on FreeBSD point to src /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail which d= oesn't=20 > exist and I was wondering if I could simply recompile using the ports=20 > collection. Yes. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigD6CC8513C8A923322D940A0E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyT7boACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzRFwCgioCrHD3sgULd0ztJzFWqReca wvAAmgKwvsUkW0RSwXjhQc569BvDWciM =OZ5T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD6CC8513C8A923322D940A0E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 00:33:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97992106566C for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 00:33:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E94B8FC08 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 00:33:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxn35 with SMTP id 35so1118470yxn.13 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.69.21 with SMTP id w21mr6099822ybk.428.1284769999406; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi.localnet ([189.70.149.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u24sm5533305yba.21.2010.09.17.17.33.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:33:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo To: Modulok Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 21:31:54 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-STABLE; KDE/4.4.5; amd64; ; ) References: <201009161818.56077.lobo@bsd.com.br> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009172131.54449.lobo@bsd.com.br> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 00:33:20 -0000 On Friday 17 September 2010 17:45:40 Modulok wrote: > >> I have an old box I want to turn into a file server backup machine. > >> Unfortunately, the mainboard has only PATA headers. I do have three > >> PCI slots though, so I was looking at a PCI SATA controller card that > >> will get along with FreeBSD without a fuss. Nothing fancy, just > >> something inexpensive that I can plug a few SATA drives into. Then > >> I'll create a graid3 with them, or mess around with ZFS. Anyone using > >> something worth a recommendation? > > > >There are IDE to SATA converters. You plug it directly into the IDE > >connector > > and on the other end you have a SATA150 plug. > > This is news to me. I now have two on the way :) > > Thank you! > -Modulok- You're welcome ! Let me know if you need any info on the one I have. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winfoes FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 03:03:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF111065670 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 03:03:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA19E8FC13 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 03:03:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so2709785qwg.13 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:03:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BJ1P+5K3fQtCMBXUvdO9SQZQLAwTOKiLWPQZBDLN0wE=; b=ZVadoffo0N1FreNOI0NDl3n/Pol1HPaxxzXtkO/4WAC0eIZEHNLzSD+fY2017K03KV 3j1oMu6xt+DuVH6zTqkl2Gyg4fQLZmYqDI8q4mc/CUJQjleNydqUILsr7F7E5J+wLTgu SKx8a+BNjD0AGmfznK5yRxwTABtFcTci/THTo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rDH9u8OfppJVtJZOuwcvoj0xzNVTC3sZL4Kba+c75K4L8Q2jtoMrkTOTy9AjE08zVj OkATi3qHjMIKR8pUPab3tzbfc6qvZCEavSQCoquxbQ8Dol4ppwGafFxHVhCnWhVGf+2A Rxh0ylj1pRw+eO3ctTvk9PqB2kF+mCq1lpSHY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.60.137 with SMTP id p9mr3987888qah.145.1284779026794; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.60.76 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:03:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100917014530.GA35456@thought.org> References: <20100917014530.GA35456@thought.org> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:03:46 -0700 Message-ID: From: patrick To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: why is the PHP stuff line "off" by default in ports/lang/php5? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 03:03:48 -0000 I don't for sure, but I'd say it's off by default because not everyone runs PHP with Apache, and mod_php5/libphp5.so is strictly for Apache. Lots of people use PHP with FastCGI or other purposes. If you always want it to be on, add the option to /etc/make.conf. Or, if you're using portupgrade or some other port management utility for upgrades, there are ways to set the default options for the ports you use. Hindsight is 20/20, but I'll go out on a limb here and say that it's generally considered good practice to test software after upgrading -- particularly if it's a web server running websites. Another thing to consider would be running something like Nagios to monitor your systems/sites to make sure things are working properly. Patrick On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > Guys, > > Tell me if I'm wrong to be ticked off. =A0I just learned that my website > has been down for weeks. =A0My KVM switch doesn't work to let me have > control of the console of my server [ns1|ethic].thought.org. =A0Whether > it was a cheap KVM switch or whether the '09 Dell 550 is defective is > unknown. =A0I have a new KVM switch. =A0I do need direct control of the > console for many reasons, but mostly to portupgrad ports. > > In the months since I first got ethic working, everything _but_ X11 > worked. =A0In late August I upgraded apache and php5, rebooted, and > just-assumed {TM} that apache22 was working. =A0Weeks ago I did read and > edit my non-blog blog; further reason to assume that everything worked. > > A couple hours ago my web server was not running. =A0I traced it to a > missing libphp5.so. =A0I checked the makefile and found the php stuff > defaults to "off". ...I am thinking this is a security risk, but most > of us are reasonably sophisticated about such things .... > > Comments, anybody? > > -- > =A0Gary Kline =A0kline@thought.org =A0http://www.thought.org =A0Public Se= rvice Unix > =A0 =A0The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.p= hp > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://journey.though= t.org > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 03:53:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEBE71065697 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 03:53:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaflatooni@yahoo.com) Received: from web51801.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51801.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5ECBB8FC08 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 03:53:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21556 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Sep 2010 03:53:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1284781998; bh=wveo8Zw35AAzLd/uuzgInYf+Ux/aR4SRLJW5oDF3u98=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1CBbCXe4f0l0a+RFHhWmn00tDe4n7VfQhTYSpyo+lAVkLO2PPA/Lfgrn1n27ABUbfS87KCzuJx08XaA6WZxPt/RXADZ/GkdoCkbgfxlP2suWWYjRfq7xX4Lcyd4R1F/zN6Y5uVb6FBn/wvxF8QRaDBA+1s17pYJD33LYcnyoLm8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Qh/qRHcQBWPqCr+ejqszDoNdFGXA4HFpoJh33dUtRUAM6ez1o012BmF+chkNvKHOXN7g4HdqB67qpCecMSSV2i2cgXzl0uOpPjv1ez/nFikJ5HQdv/v7vVSRbRibK9ltYVOHW7ssO+MTc2EoYHAoQvb6Y1hl+GjnU5CgVKPkVXE=; Message-ID: <361386.18020.qm@web51801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: LG9RJfwVM1l2jR2ZzFrKC.q4LJ58ZXb4sTdagUk1NgfS20m yLRwb57vGfh7CtHZ1gchmh9TNPjUxT8SKK_IawFHjtYqQORGxLQFsINg83M7 l2svgAqLHMXkR5Tlnyrm9coHrCuih5nRcmfNUyVpqY0FGBzGoHkVh.cc6sDS YgC7d1YlHR.Kn74mhLogGc8_93tJZ2s8C.dm1sCKOsjan6CL6x4Zv5obSgcK wezud6MNrnzxzB8F5l3Pkk5YVQmLBwyMb_N6toEXggOG_JQ3EQo7lvZHCnqV .QebwZahOgopW4u5jW4m7c5V7_U76bvQMBu7oQd3lvAx.zM0IIMqmbP4j1hn Ul8aqOsWbc9XofYITl0Ksi27nJV.fbw-- Received: from [67.55.10.186] by web51801.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:53:18 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/497 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:53:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Aflatoon Aflatooni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Anyone familiar with authsmtp service and Sendmail. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 03:53:19 -0000 I am trying to configure my sendmail to send out the emails generated locally on the server using the authsmtp service. But all their documentations and all my tweaking has been completely useless. I get the following errors in the log: Sep 18 00:03:25 zara sm-mta[58380]: STARTTLS=client, relay=mail.authsmtp.com., version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA, bits=256/256 Sep 18 00:03:35 zara sm-mta[58380]: o8I43OdE058378: to=, delay=00:00:11, xdelay=00:00:11, mailer=relay, pri=30260, relay=mail.authsmtp.com. [62.13.128.188], dsn=5.0.0, stat=Service unavailable Here is the content of my freebsd.mc divert(0) VERSIONID(`$FreeBSD: src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc,v 1.34.2.3.4.1 2009/04/15 03:14:26 kensmith Exp $') OSTYPE(freebsd6) DOMAIN(generic) FEATURE(access_db, `hash -o -T /etc/mail/access') FEATURE(blacklist_recipients) FEATURE(local_lmtp) FEATURE(mailertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/mailertable') FEATURE(virtusertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable') define(`SMART_HOST', `[mail.authsmtp.com]')dnl dnl FEATURE(`authinfo')dnl define(`RELAY_MAILER_ARGS', `TCP $h 25')dnl define(`confCW_FILE', `-o /etc/mail/local-host-names') dnl Enable for both IPv4 and IPv6 (optional) DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=IPv4, Family=inet') dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=IPv6, Family=inet6, Modifiers=O') define(`confBIND_OPTS', `WorkAroundBrokenAAAA') define(`confNO_RCPT_ACTION', `add-to-undisclosed') define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS', `authwarnings,noexpn,novrfy') MAILER(local) MAILER(smtp) TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl Please help as I am going crazy!!!! I just can't get it to work! Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 04:13:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBCC106566B for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 04:13:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10678FC0C for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 04:13:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o8I4DrCc095177 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 17 Sep 2010 21:13:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o8I4DrlP095176; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 21:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA12795; Fri, 17 Sep 10 21:09:18 PDT Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 21:09:13 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: amvandemore@gmail.com Message-Id: <4c943b69.bsyYirMmUuB/1m0g%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4c83190a.SG+LIhPWaGtmaaeL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4C835474.7060707@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4c8487cc.Rh42YL91jTIv09e0%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4c84ce46.sHyLaI+H+UzM+J/y%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4c8c5260.+COCCpHgloxRSY2/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4C8CD2A4.3020203@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4c8da53d.pPK/NzHAHPlQPOfh%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinstall vs gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 04:13:54 -0000 Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:14 PM, wrote: > > The part I don't know how to do is partitioning gm0 by hand. > > (I suppose it would require some sort of arcane incantations > > involving bsdlabel.) For all its limitations, sysinstall > > seems at least to know how to translate a reasonably human- > > readable representation of the desired slice and partition > > layout into the necessary fdisk and bsdlabel commands. > > I don't know of any exact howto, but the general principles are > laid out here: > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/Mirror I finally had time to (try to) read through that, and I'm having trouble locating a description of how to partition a gmirror. (The page seems oriented almost entirely to ZFS and gpart, the only mention of gmirror being in connection with swap.) I'm quite sure I don't want to attempt ZFS on a machine with only 512MB, and I'm not at all sure that a BIOS of this age would understand gpart. > It shows how to load geom modules from usb stick I had already figured out that part :) Fixit# ln -s /dist/boot/kernel /boot Fixit# gmirror load which is all I think I need until I get the mirror partitioned. > Next fdisk/gpart accordingly (don't forget to make it bootable). This is where I get stuck. I've partitioned the physical drives using sysinstall, but how do I go about partitioning gm0? > If your setup if GPT compatible, I recommend using it. How do I find out whether this setup is GPT compatible? > IMO, it's significantly more straightforward than the old > mbr style. I sure did not get that impression from reading gpart(8) :( For starters there seem to be at least 6 kernel options, of which I guess I may need 3: GEOM_PART_BSD, GEOM_PART_GPT, and GEOM_PART_MBR; there's apparently no "edit" function; and one has to puzzle out what is meant by a "protective MBR" as part of understanding how to make a GPT partition bootable. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 05:04:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF30106564A for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 05:04:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09A08FC0A for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 05:04:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz15 with SMTP id 15so4197154bwz.13 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:04:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=5HpT9JRlcIJk/FaUlyiQcuQSLIqHC4EG+EpsoPvX9Ks=; b=RsH1OnQLxbpqdZoAftnHr4+h9Y0VIMIlTsvxcrNP0kn1y1YPsIO3Z67j9Sf7FJNX5K AVRmZcPGzyFQI5RcRgv93Szu7STnyMbKHHjKRNIN3RMqAIE5BocOrxn2X6ov8e5EEvNd hdA9gcccWj2QVbsEr8FJRtRFltpy5/5RO8yFE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Tu8/5wHChuKXaWPOyvAtO76IJBCAgE3pKl7jlO1BJ77IqGRYM0Wbz29yLeVGYNNB8d AyTsZmR+h1DOLwe11uDQs4lNX0v7zUwxRsX16RDtzwm/zEGswBg2r3VTjag8/a3gM5RJ nhFy/rPbgIAChYuUESW76zPc2aNDx3gZRgTGo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.107.15 with SMTP id z15mr1382069fao.62.1284786273292; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.57.20 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:04:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4c943b69.bsyYirMmUuB/1m0g%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4c83190a.SG+LIhPWaGtmaaeL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4C835474.7060707@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4c8487cc.Rh42YL91jTIv09e0%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4c84ce46.sHyLaI+H+UzM+J/y%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4c8c5260.+COCCpHgloxRSY2/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4C8CD2A4.3020203@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4c8da53d.pPK/NzHAHPlQPOfh%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4c943b69.bsyYirMmUuB/1m0g%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 00:04:33 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinstall vs gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 05:04:35 -0000 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:09 PM, wrote: > > Next fdisk/gpart accordingly (don't forget to make it bootable). > > This is where I get stuck. I've partitioned the physical drives > using sysinstall, but how do I go about partitioning gm0? > Your problem is that you are still using sysinstall. You can't for your purposes(this was pointed out earlier). Fixit only! Notice in the example it creates some basic filesystems/diretories and then chroot's and extracts the dist's manually. You must do the same after you do the gmirror/gjournal setup to your liking and have created the appropriate fs's and mounted them. > > > If your setup if GPT compatible, I recommend using it. > > How do I find out whether this setup is GPT compatible? > Hardware(BIOS) dependent. > For starters there seem to be at least 6 kernel options, of > which I guess I may need 3: GEOM_PART_BSD, GEOM_PART_GPT, and > GEOM_PART_MBR; there's apparently no "edit" function; and one > has to puzzle out what is meant by a "protective MBR" as part > of understanding how to make a GPT partition bootable. > Yeah, there is no label editor or resize functionality, yet anyway. You don't need to worry about any of those kernel options yet, just get it working by loading from loader.conf. You can customize your kernel later. I think the "protective MBR" part relates to GPT/MBR hybrid style which is not what I think you should do, but maybe it works haven't tried it. You'll use gpart to create(and label) at least 3 parttitions, the boot, swap, and freebsd-ufs filesystem. You'll have to create more if you want seperate /usr /var /tmp etc. Once the fs's are created and mounted, extract, edit the /boot/loader.conf in the chroot to load gmirror, gjournal, and anything else you need, Note about the bootloader part, use gpart to install the boot code to the boot partition you create, I don't think you'll need to do anything special other than that. This example may also be helpful because it deals with GPT/UFS manual install, but doesn't use any other geom classes. http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/UFSBoot -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 06:22:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B611065673 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 06:22:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A41648FC0A for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 06:22:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so2764418qwg.13 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 23:22:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=C2sIOoHEItPf2XiNYMZ0zGsjh6fcSv/ioGkUQi3YAec=; b=vz9dX5F2hwakN+ZX37O9LxQRQ3M/ml4yP/PDaIZipw/MXNgd0ELgGuDj5aiK3gm7Ia NamLV1JZHCZIXLFwTjDlUU/1jgJPwlTRjL5R/+7tzPJz7U+e1ckxHvOfKDpmF/fNb//r hq/4KBILnl+S97Zb+qSw9IV8lELT8g72MUbZ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=jkF8lWzP4wjebBJurVstoCyXwOPz6GE28CyionhWndZm/kiO2FirLGk1Hcq5S4J8DN 0qg2tS0hkZtHh5Lak9ML/mZsnQU53bn0jJmRkOO8tzLHNjfcmCxwCMw2sISJ30RgmKuJ 8cYpd+WmV7oxu5Z0h7LUwxxxUN8qcFPxreFbo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.224.67 with SMTP id in3mr4302745qcb.91.1284790968895; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 23:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.88.211 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 23:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 01:22:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: freebsd general questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: BSD licensed Web Fourm / Blog X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 06:22:50 -0000 Hello, I thought I would ask quick, does anyone know of web forums or blog software that is BSD licensed? Thank you for any feedback -- Sam Fourman Jr. Fourman Networks http://www.fourmannetworks.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 06:24:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A9C1065670 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 06:24:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE3E8FC28 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 06:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o8I6OZ7u007383 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 17 Sep 2010 23:24:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o8I6OZTj007382; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 23:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA13212; Fri, 17 Sep 10 23:20:52 PDT Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 23:20:47 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: amvandemore@gmail.com Message-Id: <4c945a3f.3BNAtV+UuZ+M1RW2%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4c83190a.SG+LIhPWaGtmaaeL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4C835474.7060707@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4c8487cc.Rh42YL91jTIv09e0%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4c84ce46.sHyLaI+H+UzM+J/y%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4c8c5260.+COCCpHgloxRSY2/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4C8CD2A4.3020203@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4c8da53d.pPK/NzHAHPlQPOfh%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4c943b69.bsyYirMmUuB/1m0g%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinstall vs gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 06:24:36 -0000 Adam Vande More wrote: > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:09 PM, wrote: > > > Next fdisk/gpart accordingly (don't forget to make it bootable). > > > > This is where I get stuck. I've partitioned the physical drives > > using sysinstall, but how do I go about partitioning gm0? > > Your problem is that you are still using sysinstall. No, I'm not. > You can't for your purposes(this was pointed out earlier). > Fixit only! The question is, how do I go about partitioning gm0 from Fixit? I've seen nothing so far that describes how to go about creating multiple partitions on a gmirror (or on anything else, for that matter) without either using sysinstall or having to understand gpart. > Notice in the example it creates some basic filesystems/diretories using gpart and ZFS > ... > > > If your setup if GPT compatible, I recommend using it. > > > > How do I find out whether this setup is GPT compatible? > > Hardware(BIOS) dependent. OK, given the system's age I will presume that it is not, thus (I suppose) no reason to deal with gpart. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 07:14:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5E7106566B for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 07:14:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesbrandongooch@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F5F8FC12 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 07:14:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so4105460wyb.13 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 00:14:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VjKE+hnba0MrUsoE3n+JmH9o/T9s2D1UZEF0Wytks98=; b=AQBfVh7+9xRDIUSOMPH5CwYoxWdxCO/N3Xa60FirWDlyvVEKsohUnmJqdC9tMgUSMJ brgGqdsRU25Bs5u6152jYXSPk4kBl37Us7C+0YP86+zvJfrXPZ2cOdSqYHYFSidgVbut lXHNy52NczD+WZarrA1qIUF/WNMM6T2eDZ0sk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=fleQkcfNKSLPTzNQ9ub9Fr+sgPu5AAgp1UKcvo3MuHKMyuarI2wJ/c5CslrGbKAh3I vv0+KJHQGQcCU3ZHarmQerEDoJs9rF5lqB8UwX6h7Lx7HyiCvPlD+d/8cJ6a6kxa6NkC R4CfNy0E9o6kFirClKkMWxhvAO1BE/s4+gBvA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.72.72 with SMTP id s50mr5106196wed.109.1284794088795; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 00:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.133.2 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 00:14:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4c945a3f.3BNAtV+UuZ+M1RW2%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4c83190a.SG+LIhPWaGtmaaeL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4C835474.7060707@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4c8487cc.Rh42YL91jTIv09e0%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4c84ce46.sHyLaI+H+UzM+J/y%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4c8c5260.+COCCpHgloxRSY2/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4C8CD2A4.3020203@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4c8da53d.pPK/NzHAHPlQPOfh%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4c943b69.bsyYirMmUuB/1m0g%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4c945a3f.3BNAtV+UuZ+M1RW2%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 02:14:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: Brandon Gooch To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: amvandemore@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinstall vs gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 07:14:50 -0000 On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 1:20 AM, wrote: > Adam Vande More wrote: [SNIP] > The question is, how do I go about partitioning gm0 from Fixit? > I've seen nothing so far that describes how to go about creating > multiple partitions on a gmirror (or on anything else, for that > matter) without either using sysinstall or having to understand > gpart. I've used something like this from the Fixit console (using /dev/ad0 as an example): Fixit# kldload /dist/boot/kernel/geom_mirror.ko Fixit# gmirror -v -b round-robin gm0 /dev/ad0 Fixit# fdisk -v -B -I /dev/mirror/gm0 Fixit# bsdlabel -w -B /dev/mirror/gm0s1 Partition with: # bsdlabel -e /dev/mirror/gm0s1 Create a UFS file system (with Soft Updates): Fixit# newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1a Mount the newly created file system: Fixit# mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1a /mnt ...then follow one of the procedures for doing a "manual" install from fixit, e.g. Fixit# cd /dist/8.1-* Fixit# export DESTDIR=/mnt Fixit# for dir in base catpages dict doc games info lib32 manpages ports; \ do (cd $dir ; ./install.sh) ; done Fixit# cd src ; ./install.sh all Fixit# cd ../kernels ; ./install.sh generic Fixit# cd /mnt/boot ; cp -Rlp GENERIC/* /mnt/boot/kernel/ [taken from http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/Mirror] > OK, given the system's age I will presume that it is not, thus > (I suppose) no reason to deal with gpart. I've used GPT partitioning on all of my machines, ranging from a circa-2000 Toshiba Pentium 3 junker to a new i7 Quad Core beast. No problem so far, and it is a lot more logical (IMHO) than the fdisk/bsdlabel method. Also, the "manual" installation method demonstrated above hasn't failed me yet. Having stated all of this, I will say that I spent time reading the handbook, quite a few man pages, and a a wiki article here and there -- and I still feel only slightly more comfortable than I did after my first successful attempt! It is starting to "come together" for me now, finally :) Well, I hope this helps you get unstuck... Good Luck! -Brandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 08:20:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8632D1065670 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:20:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djr@pdconsec.net) Received: from ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077498FC16 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:20:30 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEALERlEyWZcBC/2dsb2JhbACjI8BDhUAEhR6ICQoG Received: from goliath.pdconsec.net (HELO smtp.pdconsec.net) ([150.101.192.66]) by ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net with SMTP; 18 Sep 2010 17:50:28 +0930 Received: from mail1.pdconsec.net ([192.168.1.41] helo=mail1.pdconsec.net) with IPv4:25 by smtp.pdconsec.net; 18 Sep 2010 18:20:27 +1000 Received: from smtp.pdconsec.net ([192.168.1.32] RDNS failed) by mail1.pdconsec.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:19:13 +1000 Received: from [10.14.6.41] ([150.101.192.69] helo=[10.14.6.41]) with IPv4:10025 by smtp.pdconsec.net; 18 Sep 2010 18:20:26 +1000 Message-ID: <4C947600.9010201@pdconsec.net> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:19:12 +1000 From: David Rawling User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Sep 2010 08:19:13.0151 (UTC) FILETIME=[2D4D20F0:01CB570A] Subject: FreeBSD 8.1 - boot failures (upgrades and clean installs) - root FS corrupt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:20:31 -0000 Hi all I'm striking some trouble attempting to upgrade (and also in building a clean replacement) for an existing 8.0-RELEASE-p3 system running in a virtual machine. The host is Hyper-V R2 and 8.0 has been just fine and dandy. Upgrades and installation generally appear to go fine - no error messages that I can see - but in each case on restarting the system I get only a black screen with a single hyphen on the second line, and the cursor flashing underneath it. Leaving the VM for many minutes does not improve matters - but a Ctrl+Alt+Del does restart it, so it's not "hung" per se. It just fails to start. This is the result of a clean installation: The VM configuration is simple enough - a 64GB disk on IDE 0/0, a DVD on IDE 1/0, an Intel 100Mbps network card (de0), 2 CPUs and 1GB of RAM. Booting the Fixit shell from the DVD - fdisk shows the disk partitioned, seemingly correctly. I've created partitions like so: ad0s1a = 2GB = / ad0s1b = 2GB = swap ad0s1d = 10GB = /var ad0s1e = 48GB = /usr ad0s1f = 2GB = /tmp Mounting them shows the root volume seemingly has data: Fixit# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/md0 39561 3051 900 77% / devfs 1 0 0 100% /dev /dev/acd0 2251930 2251930 0 100% /dist /dev/ad0s1a 2026030 272730 1591218 15% /mnt/root /dev/ad0s1d 10154158 194 9341632 0% /mnt/var /dev/ad0s1e 48745002 695558 44149844 2% /mnt/root Fixit# Yet the 15% of used space is ... well not used properly: Fixit# ls -la /mnt/root total 0 Fixit# fsck_ffs /dev/ad0s1a produces errors for many (all?) inodes - as if file writes were not properly completed / flushed. When fsck is completed, all contents are in lost+found as inode numbers. Any suggestions on debugging what's going on? I'd really like to be able to get current. Dave. -- David Rawling Principal Consultant PD Consulting And Security Mob: +61 412 135 513 Email: djr@pdconsec.net Please note that whilst we take all care, neither PD Consulting and Security nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan for viruses. The contents are intended only for use by the addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material and any use by other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please inform the sender and/or addressee immediately and delete the material. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 09:13:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65FDC106566B for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 09:13:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [62.220.235.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1150F8FC19 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 09:13:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.liukuma.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C721CC5D; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:13:14 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net B1C721CC5D DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=liukuma.net; s=liukudkim; t=1284801194; bh=72MzEfoTv2Ja3p7QSqLbKTfL+SQ99b3ssw4RZJrLK0s=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CF9gnjHScp+v2Uaw+3D28b9Vg25f3I7LUlM+i7QqJNCTt+uNUV26l+MO+uG3r9ELL JNvrNA/0Pa9WW6RszKbrqVfgwIO8PCW+FKPR4ya0vuQE4i/l1Nxyjnkt/vdB61IPBI XIJY0BCFql2yVigcbligGuQmuI3gdyz9lIj+yInI= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id XONYzoQ6IGJE; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:13:11 +0300 (EEST) Received: from rivendell (a91-155-174-194.elisa-laajakaista.fi [91.155.174.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 07C9F1CC5B; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:13:08 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 07C9F1CC5B Message-ID: From: "Reko Turja" To: "Sam Fourman Jr." , "freebsd general questions" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:13:09 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Cc: Subject: Re: BSD licensed Web Fourm / Blog X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 09:13:46 -0000 > I thought I would ask quick, does anyone know of web forums or blog > software that is BSD licensed? Serendipity - http://www.s9y.org/ Works well with Postgres too. -Reko=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 11:44:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3573C106566B for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:44:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djr@pdconsec.net) Received: from ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2BB8FC0C for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:44:51 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ag8GAOlClEyWZcBC/2dsb2JhbACUQI5kvnqFQASFHogJCgY Received: from goliath.pdconsec.net (HELO smtp.pdconsec.net) ([150.101.192.66]) by ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net with SMTP; 18 Sep 2010 21:14:49 +0930 Received: from mail1.pdconsec.net ([192.168.1.41] helo=mail1.pdconsec.net) with IPv4:25 by smtp.pdconsec.net; 18 Sep 2010 21:44:48 +1000 Received: from smtp.pdconsec.net ([192.168.1.32] RDNS failed) by mail1.pdconsec.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:30:41 +1000 Received: from [10.14.6.41] ([150.101.192.69] helo=[10.14.6.41]) with IPv4:10025 by smtp.pdconsec.net; 18 Sep 2010 21:31:54 +1000 Message-ID: <4C94A2E1.7070004@pdconsec.net> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:30:41 +1000 From: David Rawling User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C947600.9010201@pdconsec.net> In-Reply-To: <4C947600.9010201@pdconsec.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Sep 2010 11:30:41.0307 (UTC) FILETIME=[ECC69EB0:01CB5724] Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.1 - boot failures (upgrades and clean installs) - root FS corrupt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:44:52 -0000 On 18/09/2010 6:19 PM, I wrote: > Any suggestions on debugging what's going on? I'd really like to be able to > get current. > > Dave. Hmm. Further diagnosis is even more interesting. The output from the installation (console 2 - Alt-F2) shows segmentation faults and core dumps for mv, rm and ln commands - and the list gets longer if I try to do anything on the emergency shell (Alt-F4). Adding a user doesn't auto-populate the UID nor the shell, then claims that the user already exists. I also neglected to say that I am installing the AMD64 version - perhaps this is useful information :) Dave. -- David Rawling Principal Consultant PD Consulting And Security 20 Goodin Road Baulkham Hills, NSW 2153 Australia Mob: +61 412 135 513 Email: djr@pdconsec.net Please note that whilst we take all care, neither PD Consulting and Security nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan for viruses. The contents are intended only for use by the addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material and any use by other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please inform the sender and/or addressee immediately and delete the material. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 11:47:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E02106566C for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:47:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdixon@omniti.com) Received: from edge.omniti.com (smtp.omniti.com [8.8.38.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61308FC0C for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:47:54 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=omniti.com; s=s1024; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; i=@omniti.com; t=1284810473; h=From:Subject:Date:To; bh=rSwAdP3ey6Sz3a8veNNStDsbB6u46i7PgPfJVLfDzFI=; b=D8jKjVRTBW/OKIH9zoZDYrqjH3u2GYX16/jhlOdc/LczPMP/i6sn4leSIiu8To+p Rl4SjTxdPfTEQvKRf2jnRe39ngQeBxO2JNFfMbSI7lkzjsIX1st71vPSDwnS7eTX ElvxiF/ySz5/evJdDTyPefUcpoKkgx9Wtljx4N4W0kM=; Authentication-Results: edge smtp.user=jdixon@omniti.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [68.55.0.29] ([68.55.0.29:61957] helo=omniti.com) by edge (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r(37468M)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id 82/6B-01763-8E6A49C4; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 07:47:53 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 07:47:49 -0400 From: Jason Dixon To: "Sam Fourman Jr." Message-ID: <20100918114748.GJ3577@omniti.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: BSD licensed Web Fourm / Blog X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:47:55 -0000 On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 01:22:48AM -0500, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > Hello, > > I thought I would ask quick, does anyone know of web forums or blog > software that is BSD licensed? Blogsum is BSD licensed. -- Jason Dixon OmniTI Computer Consulting, Inc. jdixon@omniti.com 443.325.1357 x.241 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 12:15:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1AD1065693 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:15:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3E58FC08 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-147.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.147]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E0E3D3A6; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:15:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8ICFPMN001505; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:15:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:15:25 +0200 From: Polytropon To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-Id: <20100918141525.c7564d66.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4c93e765.iednoY3/JBBqSNBq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20100917171056.GA72692@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20100917202414.8d259989.freebsd@edvax.de> <4c93e765.iednoY3/JBBqSNBq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:15:28 -0000 On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:10:45 -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > > I would like to have ONE thing that is used for printing, and that > > does support ALL printers ... > > Isn't that exactly what CUPS is supposed to be? Obviously not. Look at the dependencies, the bloat, and the overall complicatedness of installing a printer. Also, the documentation situation could be better. When dealing with CUPS, foomatic and Gutenprint also enter the field, as well as hp*d stuff that is not included (and needs additional attention). There needs to be lots of action besides CUPS to get it working for certain printers. Try - with CUPS - to install a dotmatrix printer on a parallel port that is currently NOT connected. Last time I checked, this was not possible. Under one point of view you are right: CUPS has been become a quite standard assumption for many programs. If you install them, they will install CUPS (even if you're already running apsfilter or nothing, just pure system's lpd). I see this when printing from Gimp: "/usr/local/bin/lpstat: Unable to connect to server", clearly a CUPS message. This also shows that it doesn't integrate with system services that well, but its use seems to be hardcoded into programs. >From this opinion, you might get the impression that I don't like CUPS. You are right. But that's no problem as I don't have to use it. :-) I would LOVE to accept CUPS as a versatile part of the FreeBSD infrastructure, if it just wouldn't be that bloated, complicated, generally accepted as a default (in that case, it would have the potential of maybe becoming part of the base system), and finally abandoning the point of view that is has to cater "Windows"-typical kinds of thinking - ununderstandable, illogical. Of course I assume that you know that printer manufactureres that build home consumer crap are not interested in following established standards and recommendations, so THEY are the primary cause of trouble with printers. This is not CUPS's or FreeBSD's fault. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 12:50:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D97B1065698 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:50:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD898FC1F for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:50:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywt2 with SMTP id 2so1207111ywt.13 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 05:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.51.9 with SMTP id y9mr6796641yby.107.1284814234215; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 05:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-077-039-064.nc.res.rr.com [71.77.39.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q38sm826062yba.18.2010.09.18.05.50.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 18 Sep 2010 05:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AAC24E54824 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:50:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:50:30 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20100918085030.3ea69103@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20100918141525.c7564d66.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20100917171056.GA72692@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20100917202414.8d259989.freebsd@edvax.de> <4c93e765.iednoY3/JBBqSNBq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20100918141525.c7564d66.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAG1BMVEX3/uPVnZf2/v9ejGkqHB74++H///+cHCT3m6cgqYvfAAACbElEQVQ4jWXTQW/bIBQAYJLJuRMn8TVCss9zTdrrXJ6bHe1Ej/bossF9EpJ3nbapf3sP8JxOQ4qV8OU9HvjBROWcYNlKHtxlQ1/huBaOBiMwQtgHhbokMLIT76Acps5hvy61+6WsjkCZzNEW0+fcQ7Nl5uoPCegjjjhN5/MEABd89k9hXkQoX6cwPIDKCt8tYG5wpmdrxAyuolTPqpiVoEpVCWvl6e00RAD4JBJQnO4lvv0O4Cnd3WUGevYNFohxFYAy7jCCtW39LaQK8BgDAgiHVinVJlCiFKlcqgEHfwb1EuG+DwFGMO3oCIuJIEYoa8KJECBB+UBldgm0MQmEGz7GQr8XYRPKzYNO1zZ8mgdAu4BG5Ke/4KFboM8458UScViAAvYD93OAsu+Bc3zxCU7ZAjT74+dQv9K7oO0d1wuscop48Pc50O5bcVwgGzh/mXzaizJuAWERh8k3eaxKmxu4kV1p2XOEg3i3c8M+EKR93P0D1KATpC55vMHaGqFf5f/AwhlrhHgg8DTezopt6I3o3Qx4q4q6YaPxK8RxcClXeFGhTTS++QR6TS/oBs7l4WhzuNMubZG6hIBkF4qqZVdWczIqSrjKVF/i4o26IP2oElBGFy5CXKSnf6UWDTC6zKSqoAvzsakjjBvdzLKnmxdhY8eRsX7VSCUBdgD1hVJpx6y2OOS1DNDILYmqdWUJ+oHvd0rRvAqX5kpxQMR6yxHzPV6VlPFyWE7LKc36keNQI64gLP8Ybgtmg+zYuBl4fuI8VqW2RqDGE8Uzu7GxGa803whDdxx3bSZbRhfQUSxvmnpLZWpRFqHz7v8AvsBe0S1zv9UAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:50:35 -0000 On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:15:25 +0200 Polytropon articulated: > On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:10:45 -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > Polytropon wrote: > > > > > I would like to have ONE thing that is used for printing, and that > > > does support ALL printers ... > > > > Isn't that exactly what CUPS is supposed to be? > > Obviously not. Look at the dependencies, the bloat, and the > overall complicatedness of installing a printer. Also, the > documentation situation could be better. When dealing with > CUPS, foomatic and Gutenprint also enter the field, as well > as hp*d stuff that is not included (and needs additional > attention). There needs to be lots of action besides CUPS to > get it working for certain printers. The same could be said in regards to a lot of other applications. > Try - with CUPS - to install a dotmatrix printer on a parallel > port that is currently NOT connected. Last time I checked, this > was not possible. > > Under one point of view you are right: CUPS has been become > a quite standard assumption for many programs. If you install > them, they will install CUPS (even if you're already running > apsfilter or nothing, just pure system's lpd). I see this when > printing from Gimp: "/usr/local/bin/lpstat: Unable to connect > to server", clearly a CUPS message. This also shows that it > doesn't integrate with system services that well, but its use > seems to be hardcoded into programs. > > >From this opinion, you might get the impression that I don't > like CUPS. You are right. But that's no problem as I don't have > to use it. :-) > > I would LOVE to accept CUPS as a versatile part of the FreeBSD > infrastructure, if it just wouldn't be that bloated, complicated, > generally accepted as a default (in that case, it would have the > potential of maybe becoming part of the base system), and finally > abandoning the point of view that is has to cater "Windows"-typical > kinds of thinking - ununderstandable, illogical. You keep insisting that it is complicated; yet, you fail to specifically state what it is that you are failing to comprehend. Your "bloat" comment makes no sense at all. What you consider "bloat" another user might well consider essential. Should we deny them in order to satisfy you? > Of course I assume that you know that printer manufactureres that > build home consumer crap are not interested in following established > standards and recommendations, so THEY are the primary cause of > trouble with printers. This is not CUPS's or FreeBSD's fault. What standards? Some arbitrary protocol that you or some other unofficial entity has determined to be the ONLY ACCEPTABLE protocol. It could very well be said that FreeBSD, and perhaps others, are failing to implement the commonly used protocols presently in effect by printer manufacturers. It is THEIR product. They have an ABSOLUTE right to create and distribute THEIR product as THEY see fit. The constant and repetitious rantings that manufacturers are failing to follow some arbitrary, self proclaimed "standard" is wearing thin. Perhaps if the FreeBSD team decided to jump on the band wagon as opposed to trying to reinvent the wheel, the ease of integrating devices into the system would be simplified and thereby enhance the OS's standing and acceptance. They again, bitching, complaining and blaming others is easier, and unfortunately, the common norm in today's society. "Never do for yourself, what you can blame on others" has become the new battle call. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ If the rich could pay the poor to die for them, what a living the poor could make! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 13:40:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8050A106566C for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:40:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C2F8FC12 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:40:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-147.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.147]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029133D384; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 15:40:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8IDeZxL001705; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 15:40:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 15:40:35 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Message-Id: <20100918154035.0213e57b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100918085030.3ea69103@scorpio> References: <20100917171056.GA72692@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20100917202414.8d259989.freebsd@edvax.de> <4c93e765.iednoY3/JBBqSNBq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20100918141525.c7564d66.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100918085030.3ea69103@scorpio> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jerry Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:40:38 -0000 On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:50:30 -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:15:25 +0200 > Polytropon articulated: > > Obviously not. Look at the dependencies, the bloat, and the > > overall complicatedness of installing a printer. Also, the > > documentation situation could be better. When dealing with > > CUPS, foomatic and Gutenprint also enter the field, as well > > as hp*d stuff that is not included (and needs additional > > attention). There needs to be lots of action besides CUPS to > > get it working for certain printers. > > The same could be said in regards to a lot of other applications. That's sadly true. Many years ago, you could "pkg_add -r progname" and then be sure that you have exactly what you needed. Today, this is often a problem, just think about OpenOffice or Firefox. Mainly X related stuff tends to "dissolve", as X itself does. Parts of such software get faster obsoleted than properly docu- mented. I think this is just a normal side-effect of "rapid application development", or maybe the natural way of how soft- ware evolves per se, to take advantage of faster and better hardware. > You keep insisting that it is complicated; yet, you fail to > specifically state what it is that you are failing to comprehend. I mentioned the inability to install a printer that is currently not connected, and in this special case, it was a parallel dotmatrix printer. > Your > "bloat" comment makes no sense at all. With today's big hard disks, lots of RAM and fast processors you will be mostly right: Resources are plenty, so the need for efficient programming isn't present anymore. Especially in GUI projects there are abstractions of abstractions of abstractions of libraries depending on libraries depending on libraries - of course intended, as it's much easier to access resources in this way than accessing the "bare metal". > What you consider "bloat" > another user might well consider essential. That's surely true. > Should we deny them in order > to satisfy you? I'm speaking out for choice. If tool A isn't able to do the job, there is another tool B that is. But as soon as tool A is mandatory and can't be replaced, subsequent calls will refer to A statically, and B will be out of scope, and out of support, so it won't work anyway. Pop goes the choice. > What standards? Some arbitrary protocol that you or some other > unofficial entity has determined to be the ONLY ACCEPTABLE protocol. In X, PS is the standard for printing output. For printers itself, there is PS, PCL and ESC/P, to name the three most known ones. But what about printers that need to be injected a firmware before they will be a printer? Or a printer that just as a specific driver for some arbitrary outdated "Windows"? This is NOT standards. Just imagine every printer manufacturer would make his own plugs. With parallel / Centronics, USB and RJ45 (for network printers) we have standardized connectors. Why can't we have standard printer protocols, which means: Why can't manufactureres just use what's already established? Now you might ask: WHERE is it established? Compare office-class equipment to home consumer crap. You will see that all the "expensive" printers can do at least PS or PCL (and in most cases both, and maybe some more). They use the standards that are common for those printers. Why not use them for home consumer products as well? Where's the big problem (the BIG problem that causes it NOT to be possible)? Technical answers are welcome. > It > could very well be said that FreeBSD, and perhaps others, are failing > to implement the commonly used protocols presently in effect by > printer manufacturers. That could be said, yes. Implementing a protocol requires the protocol to be KNOWN. That might often be a problem. > It is THEIR product. They have an ABSOLUTE right > to create and distribute THEIR product as THEY see fit. You are right. The conclusion on my side is NOT to by products that are incompatible. > The constant and repetitious rantings that manufacturers are failing to > follow some arbitrary, self proclaimed "standard" is wearing thin. As I did prove, it's not about "self proclaimed standards", it's about established ones, and they don't seem to be very arbitrary as they are widely spread. You will notice that arbitrary stuff is only present in niche markets, or already died out. > Perhaps if the FreeBSD team decided to jump on the band wagon as > opposed to trying to reinvent the wheel, the ease of integrating > devices into the system would be simplified and thereby enhance the > OS's standing and acceptance. I'd love to see that - just an example: If one buys a combined inkpee printer with scanner, attaching it to the system should make an ulpt and uscanner device available. The ulpt will understand PCL or any halfway standardized protocol that can easily be installed to the system as a printer filter ("driver"). The uscanner will be accessible by (x)sane / scanimage through its connection to a standard (!) SCSI scanner device (pass). > They again, bitching, complaining and > blaming others is easier, and unfortunately, the common norm in today's > society. I think that's not true. See how many proprietary crap devices today work well with FreeBSD. To be able to do so, developers did a really great job - working with blackboxes isn't as funny as it may sound. > "Never do for yourself, what you can blame on others" has > become the new battle call. Well... no. Where do you think most software for FreeBSD comes from? We can even run "Flash" and other stuff that doesn't even support the FreeBSD operating system! -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 17:43:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439EA1065674 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 17:43:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019B78FC15 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 17:43:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o8IHfrJq028360; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:41:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:41:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <201009181741.o8IHfrJq028360@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 17:43:51 -0000 > Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:50:30 -0400 > From: Jerry > To: FreeBSD > Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer > > You keep insisting that it is complicated; yet, you fail to > specifically state what it is that you are failing to comprehend. Your > "bloat" comment makes no sense at all. What you consider "bloat" > another user might well consider essential. Should we deny them in order > to satisfy you? CUPS is an overly complex attempt t provide a 'general case' solution a problem that is, in fact, *INSOLVABLE* in the classical UNIX environment. CUPS supports a -very- small subset of that 'general case' *beyond* that which is supported by the traditional, and =far simpler= mechanisms.`o And, CUPS, itself, addresses -only- one half of te underlying issue, to start with. The _one_ thing that CUPS does have going for it is that it allows an application -- one which is *WRITTEN*AROUND* CUPS capabilities, to output a 'partial' print file, and have CUPS insert the missing parts. "Nice idea', usable only in "CUPS-aware" apps. Needless to say, there are very few of those. So this is a 'benefit' that is of 'no benefit' to most users. FACT: to print anything more complex than "plain ASCII' one has to have a methodology of conveying 'formatting' information (typeface, point-size, positioning, orientation, etc.,etc., ad nauseum) to the output device. IN A MANNER IN WHICH THAT DEVICE UNDERSTANDS. To do -that- requires that the software -producing- the data stream _know_ what the printer is capable of, and how to tell it what to do. CUPS does *NOT* include any means to get that information _to_ the output producing application. Hence it is only 'half an answer" _at_best_. It attempts to 'work around' this limitation in a half-assed way, by utilizing additional _external_ tools to convert from a 'standard' means of conveying formatting information (de jure standards of Postscript, and .PDF, and de facto standard PCL 5) into the proprietary gobbledygook that a few specific models of printer require. Don't have one of that handful of devices that (a) don't speak a standard protocol ,and (b) do speak something that an 'extension' that you _do_ have can generate, and you *still* can't print to that printer. UNLESS it does speak a standard protocol -- in which case you don't need CUPS at all. Virtually _every_ application for the UNIX world outputs in one of three formats: "Plain ASCII", "PostScript / PDF", or "HP PCL"(PCL5). {Bleep}ing "WinPrinters" can't even print ASCII text without it having been 'translated' by the driver available *only* from the manufacturer, let alone being able to deal with either of the 'smarter' page formats. If you want to play in the Unix world, having a printer that is capable of PLAIN TEXT (ASCII) output is an absolute necessity. If you want 'formatted' output, it is necessary to have 'something' that understands the protocol that is output by whatever you use to compose in. This can be a device that natively "speaks the language" _or_ something for which a 'translator" service exists. In -either- of those situations the traditional 'lpr/lpd' print spooler is "adequate" for the task. > What standards? Some arbitrary protocol that you or some other > unofficial entity has determined to be the ONLY ACCEPTABLE protocol. It > could very well be said that FreeBSD, and perhaps others, are failing > to implement the commonly used protocols presently in effect by > printer manufacturers. It is THEIR product. They have an ABSOLUTE right > to create and distribute THEIR product as THEY see fit. Yup. and if *THEY* choose to market a product that is _unusable_ by part of their potential market, _that_too_ is their 'right'. It's nobody's _fault_ that a product *designed* exclusively with the needs of -one- market segment in mind is 'unusable' in a different market segment. it _is_, however a 'reality' with which those in that 'different' market segment must (a) be aware of, and (b) "deal with", as a part of deciding to be _in_ that different market segment. > The constant and repetitious rantings that manufacturers are failing to > follow some arbitrary, self proclaimed "standard" is wearing thin. You, Sir, fit the categorization of "he who knoweth not, and knoweth not that he knoweth not", in the sense of the traditional Middle Eastern proverb. (those unfamiliar with the saying are encouraged to Google the phrase.) The issue is -not- whether the manufacturer 'follows a standard', but whether or not the device uses a *PUBLISHED* communications protocol. IF a device uses a "proprietary" communications protocol, one can do the same thing *IF* ( AND *ONLY* *IF*) one has the specifications of that protocol to work wit. There are disadvantages to writing to a proprietary protocol -- you can talk only to things that speak that particular language, where a 'standard' protocol allows one to talk to any device that speaks the standard language. LASTLY, if a device uses an *UNPUBLISHED* protocol, you are pretty much out-of-luck trying to generate data to it _yourself_. You have to "buy something' from somebody who -does_ know how to communicate with the device in question. That assumes that there _is_ "somebody" who offers such a tHing that works in the environment you need it to work in. _All_ the so-called 'standards' *are* published, so anybody can write stuff that output bit-streams in compliance with that standard, and have a reasonable expectation that it will 'work' on a device that claims to be compliant with that standard. Some have been 'formalized' by a so-called 'standards organization', *MOST* are just "something that the developer published for others to use", and a sufficient number of 'others' *DID*USE*IT*. The advantages to the 'community' of producing a device that is 'compatible' with other manufacturers is immense. Consider what would happen if every computer manufacturer used is _own_ type of connector and interface logic for their 'XSB" implementation of "something similar to USB" -- you'd only be able to buy devices that worked with your machine from your manufacturer. No carrying a XSB stick from home to work, if they were 'different' kinds of machines. > Perhaps if the FreeBSD team decided to jump on the band wagon as > opposed to trying to reinvent the wheel, the ease of integrating > devices into the system would be simplified and thereby enhance the > OS's standing and acceptance. There is *NO* fscking 'bandwagon' to "jump onto", with regard to supporting the things various manufacturers do with low-end printers. There are 'real' printers, that speak "some" form of a _published_ protocol, and can be used with *ANY* device that outputs data in conformance with that *PUBLISHED* protocol,.... And then there are "WinPrinters", which use an _unpublished_ protocol known *ONLY* to te manufacturer, and, as a result, work *ONLY* when they are 'fed' data by a driver WRITTEN BY THE MANUFACTURER. And the -only- drivers that that manufacturer provides are for MS-Windows. They can make 'really inexpensive' printers 'for Windows', but they are virtually useless _outside_ of that environment because of a LACK OF MANUFACTURER SUPPORT. The manufacturer doesn't supply drivers for any other O/s, NOR do they the provide the protocol information If the manufacturer _does_not_publish_ the communications protocol (WHATEVER it is) that a given printer uses, *and* the manufacturer does -not- provide a 'device' driver for the operating system one is using, there is, for all =practical= purposes, *NOTHING* that anybody can do about it. Many/most 'winprinters' are relatively dumb raster imaging devices, with the rasterization done _in_the_host_computer_ device-driver. *UNFORTUNATELY* the raster data is usually _compressed_ before being sent to the printer. using 'whatever' compression and coding scheme the manufacturer feels like implementing. look at the specs for 'Group III' fax transmission to get an idea of the 'games' played. RLL coding, with variable-length tokens as stand-ins for other bit-patterns. Without access to the 'known' translation- table of bit-patterns, you are essentially out-of-luck trying to reverse- engineer what that data-stream represents -- since the translation-table is *NOT* transmitted in the data stream, and without it you can't tell where one symbol ends and the next begins. Beyond -that-, there is the issue of any (also _undocumented_) "framing" that the manufacturer may include, to allow detection of transmission errors, re-send requests, etc, or simply to facilitate "ack/nak" flow control. Let alone any 'start-of-job' initialization and/or end-of-job clean-up stuff. Parameters in which may _entirely_ change the way the 'body data' is interpreted, just to add to the confusion. To "reverse engineer' the communications protocol used by any _single_ model of 'WinPrinter' (which probably sells for under $100) is a "project" that takes well in excess of US$50,000 of professional talent. *IF* the manu- facurer published the protocol involved, the effort is probably only in the 'hundreds of dollars' range. If it uses a 'standard' protocol, the added cost for a driver is probably _zero_, because it already exists. I've *DONE* major reverse-engineering jobs, I -know- what's involved. It's not particularly simple/easy when you have _uncompressed_ data to work with. Add an 'unknown' form of compression, and you're eyebrows deep in a swamp known as advanced crypto-analysis. If you're _LUCKY_ the printer is microprocessor-controlled *AND* the ROM programming is readable. then it is 'merely' a matter of decoding what the ROM program does. If the logic is in read-protected PLA, or, worse, ASICs, you're SOL. It's really *REALLY* difficult to find the process to 'decode' something when you (a) don't have the 'cleartext', and (b) can't recognize _a_ clear- text when you encounter it. > They again, bitching, complaining and > blaming others is easier, and unfortunately, the common norm in today's > society. "Never do for yourself, what you can blame on others" has > become the new battle call. FACT: *MANUFACTURERS* chose to go for a 'subset' of the market, where they could offer 'especially low prices' by tailoring the device for THAT MARKET *ONLY*. They have concluded that the 'additional profits' to be made from selling to a 'larger' marketplace are _not_worth_the_cost_ of the additional efforts that it takes to play in tat larger marketplace -- *even*if* that 'cost' is simply the release of the communication protocol specifications. It *IS* their prerogative, and right, to do so. FACT: UNIX, FreeBSD, and any other environment were GhostScript runs, support an *AMAZINGLY*LARGE* number of 'undocumented' printers, when you consider the fact that their communications protocols _are_ undocumented by the manufacturer. It's true that those printers constitute a miniscule share of the total number of *UNDOCUMENTED* printers that people might like to use, and that the ones that -have- been 'reverse engineered' art not the newest models on te market, but, reference to the famed 'dancing bear', the surprising thing is not 'how many' there are, but that there _are_ any such printers supported, *AT*ALL*. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 20:15:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0512B106566C for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:15:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.olyer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DEB78FC0A for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:15:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so1943276qyk.13 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:15:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=s4t0/Iu5yIZJ2jWVG8iDvQq78Gxxvl4Z1JC4fbtYCWU=; b=EJThAWDihHYcIPHOCsQ5+DIB6zSXOJH5tq5xSaqCOSO3Irx547al8rIVIwMiDCne9U 4j3LrZKH8mmoM6oL0eu8bsk/LxFMqNL1jy1D9Kou9OCeFDcJk3eVoov50gBKCZc73JiB 4YsqoWM7HwR6g2ZYg6EmQfCFXk5xVRMf2Jjnw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=itd2fq/KSO2WhRx/RngPxSB0c9Xrw7VRIdBw+kJmQGP53fDJi8fdYP7v/yAWwCEyM3 OGcjEeYrmHOsmRV/VS1NtF5h3Bvo1cQdVrSJqycsD3ivTZbKyzThH7jsjyJy94SoiqrK N7SjRjZreysHjrWrSnRCowE2KcyESomPJq9Oc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.11.6 with SMTP id r6mr4601536qar.137.1284840953636; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.239.136 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 16:15:53 -0400 Message-ID: From: Henry Olyer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: "Unable to find device node for ./dev/ad4s1b in /dev" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:15:55 -0000 This morning I downloaded and burned the latest CD for 8.1. Then I took a brand new laptop, an ACER, model ASPIRE-7741Z-5731, and tried to install FreeBSD. (It had a copy of windoz on it. goodbye and good riddance.) My point is simple, this is about as vanilla as it gets. And I get the error, shown in the subject line. Not sure if this is important, but the ad4s1b partition is the SWAP partition. --jg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 20:37:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E038106564A for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:37:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCFFD8FC26 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:37:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.152] (helo=smtp20.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ox4AL-0006Ni-El; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 22:37:45 +0200 Received: from 54193b12.cm-5-2a.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([84.25.59.18] helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp20.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ox4AJ-0004Nw-2i; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 22:37:43 +0200 Received: from [192.168.13.34] (peters-ipod.egypt.nl [192.168.13.34]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CF539857; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 22:37:42 +0200 (CEST) References: Message-Id: <50A8932F-7292-44C0-BA5F-2DAFFCFA7E63@boosten.org> From: Peter Boosten To: Henry Olyer In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPod Mail (7E18) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 7E18) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 22:37:44 +0200 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Ox4AJ-0004Nw-2i X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.6, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -2.60, SPF_PASS -0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: "Unable to find device node for ./dev/ad4s1b in /dev" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:37:47 -0000 On 18 sep 2010, at 22:15, Henry Olyer wrote: > This morning I downloaded and burned the latest CD for 8.1. > > Then I took a brand new laptop, an ACER, model ASPIRE-7741Z-5731, > and tried > to install FreeBSD. (It had a copy of windoz on it. goodbye and good > riddance.) > > My point is simple, this is about as vanilla as it gets. > > And I get the error, shown in the subject line. > > Not sure if this is important, but the ad4s1b partition is the SWAP > partition. > I lost data this way... And I'm quite happy (not for you) to see .I'm not the only one experiencing this phenomena. Peter > --jg > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 20:58:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BF0106564A for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:58:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DA18FC08 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.145] (helo=smtp14.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ox4UF-0000Ye-2a for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 22:58:19 +0200 Received: from 54193b12.cm-5-2a.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([84.25.59.18] helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp14.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ox4UE-0005wS-Fr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 22:58:18 +0200 Received: from [192.168.13.34] (peters-ipod.egypt.nl [192.168.13.34]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C63A39857; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 22:58:18 +0200 (CEST) References: <4C778326.8090802@boosten.org> Message-Id: <04B5DBAB-ECB2-45B4-BC1E-068824019A3A@boosten.org> From: Peter Boosten To: Peter Boosten In-Reply-To: <4C778326.8090802@boosten.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPod Mail (7E18) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 7E18) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 22:58:17 +0200 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Ox4UE-0005wS-Fr X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.444, vereist 5, BAYES_00 -2.60, SPF_PASS -0.00, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION 0.16) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Problems with upgrade - lost partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:58:20 -0000 Ping... -- HTTP://www.boosten.org On 27 aug 2010, at 11:19, Peter Boosten wrote: > Hi, > > I recently updated a machine (running on VMWare) from 7.2 to 8.1. > > This machine has two (virtual) disks. While the upgrade went rather > smooth ('make buildworld, make buildkernel, make installkernel, reboot > into single user, mergemaster -p, make installworld, mergemaster, > reboot), I lost the partition on the second harddrive. > > So after reboot, the machine went directly in single user mode, > because > my /dev/ad1s1a was gone. The only devices in /dev where ad1 (the disk) > and ad1s1 (the slice). > > Since I had a backup this didn't seem to be such a problem, however > recreating the slice was. > > The only way I could get rid of that slice was through the gpart > utility > (sysinstall wouldn't help me at all): > > gpart delete ad1s1 > gpart destroy ad1 > > After that sysinstall worked again. Is there any way around this (and > preferably rescue the partition somehow, since I have more machines to > upgrade, and while backups are there, restoring creates an additional > delay in the whole process). > > Also, the numbering of the NICs changed from le0 to le1, which isn't > that a big problem, but rather annoying. > > > Thanks in advance. > > Peter > -- > http://www.boosten.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 21:43:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D5F1065672 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:43:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glimp@live.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s34.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s34.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F358FC0C for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:43:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP7 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s34.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:30:20 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [151.49.252.243] X-Originating-Email: [glimp@live.com] Message-ID: Received: from genki.collidiamo.net ([151.49.252.243]) by BLU0-SMTP7.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:30:19 -0700 Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:27:13 +0200 From: dan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100910 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Sep 2010 21:30:19.0938 (UTC) FILETIME=[B1B60820:01CB5778] Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:43:41 -0000 On 17.09.2010 02:45, Chabane HEMDANI wrote: > I'm computer science teacher at university of Tizi-ouzou in Algeria. I'm > using FreeBSD since 2007 when I "discover" it by chance when searching in > the Web something about Linux. > Since that date, I always invited and recommended to my students to install > and use this "magical" and my favorite system. > > However, all my students retort me that they have a problem of installing > their printers. I have so this problem, so I can't tell good-bye > definitively to winosor and Linux. I always need them for printing. > > I've search, read, learn, follow instructions about nearly all the > web-documentation about installing a new printer to work under cups without > any success. I've an HP Laser Jet 1018 printer and tools given by package > print/hplip don't work correctly. > > I'm using FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE > I've rebuild a kernel without ulpt. > I modified my /etc/rc.conf to enable cupsd and hpiod and hpssd. > I modified /etc/devfs.rules like suggested by cups (see pkg_info -D > cups-base-1.4.4 ). > I've made many other configurations like that suggested at > http://diablotins.org/index.php/Imprimer,_hplip > > and finally, I've given to my students the wrong answer that "no one can > print under FreeBSD !" > > > > Please where is the problem? > Please help me to help others. > Please help me to enlarge the FreeBSD users community. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > :-) Definitely, I am feeling very "lucky". We have 2 multi-functional devices here. 1 - Samsung SCX-4100 . Once I installed SPLIX and the CUPS "system", I manually added the device to CUPS (using SCX-4200 ppd file) and print 2-3 test pages. For the moment I have not tried scanning. (p.s. for printing, I tried first using lpd and the foomatic filter but the filtering process unexpectedly broke: probably a misconfiguration with foomatic or a bug in it). 2 - HP Photosmart C3180. Once I installed HPLIP and adjusted some permissions I used a hp sw tool to update the CUPS printers' database (all with the __default__ 8.1 kernel). I then Succesfully printed a test page and successfully tested the device as a scanner (blank scanning of the plate). The "annoying" and computer-time-consuming part was recompiling gtk and qt with CUPS support, that was not the default when I first installed everything. In the end, CUPS was also easy to use to share the 1st printer in our small and simple network. To close, a sincere thank you to all the people directly/indirectly involved in all the branches (mailing lists too :-) ) of this project. daniele From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 22:13:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0178F1065783 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 22:13:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19A88FC08 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 22:13:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o8IMDOh1026227 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 18 Sep 2010 15:13:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o8IMDOIG026224; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 15:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA15780; Sat, 18 Sep 10 15:10:03 PDT Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 15:09:57 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd@edvax.de Message-Id: <4c9538b5.IAmh0DDtGtrjQEr2%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20100917171056.GA72692@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20100917202414.8d259989.freebsd@edvax.de> <4c93e765.iednoY3/JBBqSNBq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20100918141525.c7564d66.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100918141525.c7564d66.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 22:13:29 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:10:45 -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > Polytropon wrote: > > > I would like to have ONE thing that is used for printing, > > > and that does support ALL printers ... > > > > Isn't that exactly what CUPS is supposed to be? > > Obviously not. Er, I said "is supposed to be", not "is" :) "Common Unix Printing System" certainly sounds as if the intent was to be the "ONE thing that is used for printing". Whether they did a good job of it is another question entirely :( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 23:05:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E351F1065672; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:05:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf03.insightbb.com (mxsf03.insightbb.com [74.128.0.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D95A8FC1B; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:05:03 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,387,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="943999352" Received: from unknown (HELO asav02.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf03.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 18 Sep 2010 19:05:02 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtAwALbilExKgCiCPGdsb2JhbACURo1yDAEBAQE1LcAahUEEiUw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,387,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="385171038" Received: from 74-128-40-130.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.128.40.130]) by asavout02.manage.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 18 Sep 2010 19:05:01 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 19:05:00 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.1; i386; ; ) References: <20100918141525.c7564d66.freebsd@edvax.de> <4c9538b5.IAmh0DDtGtrjQEr2%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <4c9538b5.IAmh0DDtGtrjQEr2%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009181905.01254.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Cc: freebsd@edvax.de, questions@freebsd.org, perryh@pluto.rain.com Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:05:04 -0000 On Saturday 18 September 2010 6:09:57 pm perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:10:45 -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > Polytropon wrote: > > > > I would like to have ONE thing that is used for printing, > > > > and that does support ALL printers ... > > > > > > Isn't that exactly what CUPS is supposed to be? > > > > Obviously not. > > Er, I said "is supposed to be", not "is" :) "Common Unix Printing > System" certainly sounds as if the intent was to be the "ONE thing > that is used for printing". Whether they did a good job of it is > another question entirely :( > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I think that you don't fully apreciate the task at hand. When Unix was first invented, there were no laser printers, ink jets, USB, etc. That no one can create a one-size fits all solution OWES to the fact it's simply not always possible to unify disparate designs. They weren't designed to be interoperable. Technology keeps marchng forward. We need to discard all of it eventually. If you want easy, peasy printing success under *nix, choose a Postscript capable printer that has a network connection and supports IPP. Make sure the priner has a .ppd file available for it. You can get this file for free before buying the printer itself. I use (and love) my Brother HL-6050DN mono Laser. I'd like to get a Brother color laser, but it has to wait... -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 23:05:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E351F1065672; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:05:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf03.insightbb.com (mxsf03.insightbb.com [74.128.0.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D95A8FC1B; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:05:03 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,387,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="943999352" Received: from unknown (HELO asav02.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf03.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 18 Sep 2010 19:05:02 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtAwALbilExKgCiCPGdsb2JhbACURo1yDAEBAQE1LcAahUEEiUw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,387,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="385171038" Received: from 74-128-40-130.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.128.40.130]) by asavout02.manage.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 18 Sep 2010 19:05:01 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 19:05:00 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.1; i386; ; ) References: <20100918141525.c7564d66.freebsd@edvax.de> <4c9538b5.IAmh0DDtGtrjQEr2%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <4c9538b5.IAmh0DDtGtrjQEr2%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009181905.01254.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Cc: freebsd@edvax.de, questions@freebsd.org, perryh@pluto.rain.com Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:05:04 -0000 On Saturday 18 September 2010 6:09:57 pm perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:10:45 -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > Polytropon wrote: > > > > I would like to have ONE thing that is used for printing, > > > > and that does support ALL printers ... > > > > > > Isn't that exactly what CUPS is supposed to be? > > > > Obviously not. > > Er, I said "is supposed to be", not "is" :) "Common Unix Printing > System" certainly sounds as if the intent was to be the "ONE thing > that is used for printing". Whether they did a good job of it is > another question entirely :( > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I think that you don't fully apreciate the task at hand. When Unix was first invented, there were no laser printers, ink jets, USB, etc. That no one can create a one-size fits all solution OWES to the fact it's simply not always possible to unify disparate designs. They weren't designed to be interoperable. Technology keeps marchng forward. We need to discard all of it eventually. If you want easy, peasy printing success under *nix, choose a Postscript capable printer that has a network connection and supports IPP. Make sure the priner has a .ppd file available for it. You can get this file for free before buying the printer itself. I use (and love) my Brother HL-6050DN mono Laser. I'd like to get a Brother color laser, but it has to wait... -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 23:21:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9932106566C for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:21:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B598FC13 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:21:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-147.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.147]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8771E4C7; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 01:21:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8INLpoh003214; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 01:21:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 01:21:51 +0200 From: Polytropon To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-Id: <20100919012151.a7e766f2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4c9538b5.IAmh0DDtGtrjQEr2%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20100917171056.GA72692@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20100917202414.8d259989.freebsd@edvax.de> <4c93e765.iednoY3/JBBqSNBq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20100918141525.c7564d66.freebsd@edvax.de> <4c9538b5.IAmh0DDtGtrjQEr2%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:21:54 -0000 On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 15:09:57 -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > > On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:10:45 -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > Polytropon wrote: > > > > I would like to have ONE thing that is used for printing, > > > > and that does support ALL printers ... > > > > > > Isn't that exactly what CUPS is supposed to be? > > > > Obviously not. > > Er, I said "is supposed to be", not "is" :) "Common Unix Printing > System" certainly sounds as if the intent was to be the "ONE thing > that is used for printing". Whether they did a good job of it is > another question entirely :( It seems that you are mis-interpreting the C in CUPS. :-) The "Common" refers to the fact - and this really is an advantage - that similar versions of CUPS can be used across many UNIX and Linux operating systems; there's also support for the big desktop environ- ments KDE and Gnome. Even Mac OS X uses it. This makes it common. In fact, it's great that one can use PPD files on all those systems that have CUPS, but the *need* to refer to arbitrary external files (instead of using what's installed - like gs) makes it less useful, but still powerful, and sadly very complex and sometimes complicated. Maybe this is the price of being common to many different systems... For further autopsy of "Common" refer to the C in CDE. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 23:27:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3848D106566C for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:27:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from redcondor2.peak.org (redcondor2.peak.org [69.59.192.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108CE8FC17 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:27:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from peak-mail-gateway.peak.org ([69.59.192.41]) by redcondor2.peak.org ({e8dac926-1ec8-47e6-b410-31008b345fb7}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20100918232749254 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:27:49 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from oak.localnet (207.55.91.197.peak.org [207.55.91.197] (may be forged)) by peak-mail-gateway.peak.org (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id o8INRmSl066070 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 16:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oak.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oak.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653FDCC95 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 16:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from carlj@localhost) by oak.localnet (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o8INRl0q020204; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 16:27:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.localnet: carlj set sender to carlj@peak.org using -f From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 16:27:47 -0700 Message-ID: <87pqwar5sc.fsf@oak.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: extra open ports in rkhunter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:27:50 -0000 I am running rkhunter and it keeps reporting a port inconsistency between sockstat and netstat -a. Netstat shows an extra 5 ports open, but netstat doesn't show what is holding ports open, so I don't know what they are. Does anybody know how to determine what is holding open a port? I have been looking around but none of my ideas show anything. This is a full desktop system with KDE4 and VirtualBox running, so it has a lot of things running. The following are the ports if anybody has any ideas, but I would also like to know how to trace them down myself: tcp4 0 0 *.876 *.* LISTEN tcp6 0 0 *.921 *.* LISTEN udp4 0 0 *.608 *.* udp6 0 0 *.952 *.* udp6 0 0 *.804 *.* -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org