From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 00:07:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC18B106566B for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:07:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD8F8FC25 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:07:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13so7922wwb.31 for ; Sat, 09 Oct 2010 17:07:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5rfO/WPz/MIyu+OMc1YfwZ6ZbMLQyFaIh6tJ8UaX298=; b=PVUcALxAmvJw47VolayK9pIIo4fDYxTwsL4TjR5o8LXRaAc/1RZIB58/DoGcpaCZ+u LTnoCNlhKkFCj59WbFoP2f6Wjc1U6Yki8aatJzR+KPx+ZkLBjA1xKe5GtPtz/tG0sMjc kP54/7At9fAtIvq+miQuwkSQc1z/SBx8ew1Js= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hO8drwa2m3GIqtJOYckm/eTBNX7v5SODDU29PUaB6/VPE5pT8mqwSVk5yxxbGFIoPT 525DvMaq6aMZdD4gkFYyR8P1anaLorCem3nr38c1KMtTcMqyvLumbeRze/fVx4njyo8V bpKknQFtx0wefC9v6DcPdK92AnrsZ5glvfgig= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.188.81 with SMTP id z59mr3929176wem.106.1286669274850; Sat, 09 Oct 2010 17:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.3.136 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Oct 2010 17:07:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20101009014310.O2036@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4CAFF3C8.30703@gmail.com> <20101009160710.216d5239@scorpio> Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 19:07:54 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan Cc: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Like it or not, Theo is having a good laugh .. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:07:56 -0000 Wow! I tried to wait, but it now has to be said that more than just Theo are laughing. On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Rob Farmer wrote= : > > On Oct 9, 2010, at 1:07 PM, Jerry wrote: > >> On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 09:47:04 -0700 >> Rob Farmer articulated: >> >>> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 05:30, Henry Olyer >>> wrote: >> >>> "Surrilous" isn't an English word, nor an obvious typo of one, so I >>> have no idea what you mean here. >> >> surrilous (adj.) coarsely abusive, vulgar or low (especially in language= ) foul- mouthed > > I have never heard this word and couldn't find a definition using google = define or dictionary.com (which aggregates many major dictionaries). > > Perhaps it is a word, but an extremely obscure one. > > -- > Rob Farmer > >> >> Although the OP might have meant scurrilous (an obvious typo): >> >> scur=C2=B7ril=C2=B7ous =E2=80=93adjective >> >> 1. grossly or obscenely abusive: a scurrilous attack on the mayor. >> >> 2. characterized by or using low buffoonery; coarsely jocular or derisiv= e: a scurrilous jest. >> >> -- >> Jerry =E2=9C=8C >> FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net >> >> Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. >> Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. >> __________________________________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 00:43:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E58106564A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A9B8FC0A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:43:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o9A0hIal017376; Sat, 9 Oct 2010 18:43:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o9A0hIqv017373; Sat, 9 Oct 2010 18:43:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 18:43:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Scott Ballantyne In-Reply-To: <20101009193132.87551.qmail@ssr.com> Message-ID: References: <20101009174623.84973.qmail@ssr.com> <4CB0B41C.9060802@wallnet.com> <20101009193132.87551.qmail@ssr.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 09 Oct 2010 18:43:19 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Tim Kellers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No Sound FBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:43:20 -0000 On Sat, 9 Oct 2010, Scott Ballantyne wrote: > Hi Tim, > > You write: >> I finally kldload(ed) snd_* and went through the list of the loaded >> modules until I eliminated useless loaded modules and found the one that >> actually let the sound files play. It was a pain in the butt, but it >> worked. >> >> What does kldstat say for your .ko loaded sound files? >> > > The problem was partly solved by Frank's suggestion to set the default > device to 1, although I don't know why. Now I get sound through the > earphones, but not the speakers. Look at your /dev/sndstat again, you have multiple audio devices. One of them is the HDMI output on the video card. Setting hw.snd.default_unit just selects the default unit to use for playing audio. Try the various units until you find the right one. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 00:50:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC166106566B for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:50:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bobby@decparts.com) Received: from smtpauth16.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth16.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 759E18FC12 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22687 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2010 00:19:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (71.162.80.55) by smtpauth16.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.22) with ESMTP; 10 Oct 2010 00:19:03 -0000 From: "Robert Ahearn" To: Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 20:23:45 -0400 Message-ID: <5649AF5D79D44A838D2AAE38B699C021@bobby01> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: ActoEWaEnppuIInsRmmREHQ301OGoQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4721 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 01:36:52 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Alpha 4100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:50:18 -0000 Hello Folks IGS is a US military approved Repair facility, looking for Alpha 4100 LP boxes some of your members might be retiring Also VAX 4000 90/90A/96 Yup believe it or not wee are still deploying this product world wide, any help is appreciated All the best Bobby Robert B. Ahearn igs systems, inc. | 246 s. meadow road | gate 4, hangar nw8 | plymouth, ma 02360 t: 508.866.1171 | f: 508.866.4500 | im: igsbobby From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 02:02:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320C1106564A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 02:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cybernautape@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFEA8FC12 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 02:02:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so2951803iwn.13 for ; Sat, 09 Oct 2010 19:02:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UMFwG55SR9So8orl1DLb2E2lA4kpmOuj3vZKlspqY0M=; b=F6vaQmuBDnuEAbCw+AbkhKLZkG5vJOme82ilAIRfAiAq1lgsOwJMO0MnicLwOydWFV KTC0+POzmwtNsvNkzrY/OdYHyDxotYqPI4FSXw4u3DqZIEXzBJgt5tpIOycTnNdBZjMn X9Rs7M1wvZ41qdmKpD1+1NSsKpciyfX48s//A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tXG1FtwPd4TSvyOksOLUpEEL+yrDC4xKkZ0ax6l9WctsYzNWr8u+rqNEkYvOVK7G7+ L9Fc29nR7ZOOSfGmKBGZRubX1NKt8nAcU00A3S9Bv1g1GdYXzRybXcn9Aws6Tf3wXmCV jOOgLbKcM3L4R/zYws5c4RyIFQF/yy11RyZT0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.172.75 with SMTP id k11mr3681641ibz.4.1286676150411; Sat, 09 Oct 2010 19:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.150.142 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Oct 2010 19:02:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 21:02:30 -0500 Message-ID: From: Edgar Rodolfo To: Antonio Olivares Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help me, i can't start graphical interface in freeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 02:02:31 -0000 hello, i started kde4 graphical interface , i installed, gnome2 and kde4, gnome2 dont't work, but kde4 ok, thanks Antonio, do you speak spanish?, i will read the links... 2010/10/9, Antonio Olivares : > Edgar, > > If you want to use gnome, you might want to check the following: > > http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q1 > > Check to see that gnome-session is present, type > $ which gnome-session > > if you get message not found then, you did not install it? You might > want to use kde? > Check this page: > > http://rhyous.com/2009/12/18/how-to-install-and-configure-a-freebsd-8-des= ktop-with-xorg-and-kde/ > > Hope this helps. > > Regards, > > Antonio > > On 10/9/10, Edgar Rodolfo wrote: >> Hello, i am trying freebsd 8.1 from dvd, but i can't start graphical >> interface, gnome2 or kde4, when i am installing i chose all, then >> after it installed, after package selection i choose gnome2, kde4 and >> x window system based utilities, i choose xorg-7.5 then i put x, y >> others packages are in D, is it correct? y handbook i don't see , >> there only seen install generic, my conexion is very slowly...i can't >> use cd /usr/ports/.../xorg make install clean >> i add in /etc/rc.conf, echo 'gnome_enable=3D"YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf, >> also, echo 'hald_enable=3D"YES"', echo 'dbus_enable=3D"YES"', also i put >> echo exec gnome-sesion >> .xinitrc, :(, when i started startx, the >> message is: >> exec gnome-session: not found >> waiting for x server to shut down failed to unset mtrr: Device not >> configured >> xauth: (argv):1: bad display name "edgar.localhost:0" in "remove" comman= d >> in handbook say that xorg 7.5 no configured, default startx,it will >> start, don't know, help me please, i want to learn freebsd >> note:handbook >> 5.4.2. Configurar X11 >> >> A partir de la versi=C3=B3n 7.3 Xorg puede funcionar sin utilizar ficher= o >> de configuraci=C3=B3n; basta con teclear en el prompt: >> >> % start >> excuse me my english is very bad :( >> >> -- >> =E2=96=81 =E2=96=82 =E2=96=83 =E2=96=84 =E2=96=85 =E2=96=86 =E2=96=87 = =E2=96=88 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > --=20 =E2=96=81 =E2=96=82 =E2=96=83 =E2=96=84 =E2=96=85 =E2=96=86 =E2=96=87 =E2= =96=88 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 02:11:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537EA1065672 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 02:11:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B3E8FC1C for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 02:11:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30so1457518qyk.13 for ; Sat, 09 Oct 2010 19:11:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RQdZkgcOOFKA8k33GepIavm5WrBlz8kmsdWZGsXtvWM=; b=dwegSPSwRRmn9SubGHMo0jNAOMovoQSJh0yBpUbwDWU28GFkwJqgxSdNPYTMrciLxY FriLvoD6YrbrSjmy3pRA+e/jYc1etZor01cxuAWJ++WAvWtsHf7y2mopZDI2WDpXQRgC zIcBTOM+JPZ3YVijG9dZtAfSGYpcbSV7QFum8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DNecBgK+1ZHgn89+jfCdFwJt+Z+p6zZso2IbbZP47dACYmd3Q8J+3lXVV4wQXYap15 LrtoJB7hhnXMyPJMwC0wI1MC3NyOWF8T1RF8jR/sZGL1LfkyRIQz25mlE28omGDyFRc5 0dtogHGa1GVgsZyHd7DvTNSKF97EOqPDYJ8/o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.2.136 with SMTP id 8mr984544qaj.360.1286676675754; Sat, 09 Oct 2010 19:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.231.76 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Oct 2010 19:11:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 21:11:15 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Edgar Rodolfo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help me, i can't start graphical interface in freeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 02:11:17 -0000 Edgar, Good that kde4 works for you. Yes, I speak Spanish too! Regards, Antonio On 10/9/10, Edgar Rodolfo wrote: > hello, i started kde4 graphical interface , i installed, gnome2 and > kde4, gnome2 dont't work, but kde4 ok, thanks Antonio, do you speak > spanish?, i will read the links... > > 2010/10/9, Antonio Olivares : >> Edgar, >> >> If you want to use gnome, you might want to check the following: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q1 >> >> Check to see that gnome-session is present, type >> $ which gnome-session >> >> if you get message not found then, you did not install it? You might >> want to use kde? >> Check this page: >> >> http://rhyous.com/2009/12/18/how-to-install-and-configure-a-freebsd-8-de= sktop-with-xorg-and-kde/ >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Regards, >> >> Antonio >> >> On 10/9/10, Edgar Rodolfo wrote: >>> Hello, i am trying freebsd 8.1 from dvd, but i can't start graphical >>> interface, gnome2 or kde4, when i am installing i chose all, then >>> after it installed, after package selection i choose gnome2, kde4 and >>> x window system based utilities, i choose xorg-7.5 then i put x, y >>> others packages are in D, is it correct? y handbook i don't see , >>> there only seen install generic, my conexion is very slowly...i can't >>> use cd /usr/ports/.../xorg make install clean >>> i add in /etc/rc.conf, echo 'gnome_enable=3D"YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf, >>> also, echo 'hald_enable=3D"YES"', echo 'dbus_enable=3D"YES"', also i pu= t >>> echo exec gnome-sesion >> .xinitrc, :(, when i started startx, the >>> message is: >>> exec gnome-session: not found >>> waiting for x server to shut down failed to unset mtrr: Device not >>> configured >>> xauth: (argv):1: bad display name "edgar.localhost:0" in "remove" comma= nd >>> in handbook say that xorg 7.5 no configured, default startx,it will >>> start, don't know, help me please, i want to learn freebsd >>> note:handbook >>> 5.4.2. Configurar X11 >>> >>> A partir de la versi=C3=B3n 7.3 Xorg puede funcionar sin utilizar fiche= ro >>> de configuraci=C3=B3n; basta con teclear en el prompt: >>> >>> % start >>> excuse me my english is very bad :( >>> >>> -- >>> =E2=96=81 =E2=96=82 =E2=96=83 =E2=96=84 =E2=96=85 =E2=96=86 =E2=96=87 = =E2=96=88 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> > > > -- > =E2=96=81 =E2=96=82 =E2=96=83 =E2=96=84 =E2=96=85 =E2=96=86 =E2=96=87 =E2= =96=88 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 04:43:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C49B106564A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 04:43:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E108FC0A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 04:43:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0679EE81734; Sat, 9 Oct 2010 21:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 21:43:40 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20101010044340.GB3405@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Subject: how now [green] KDE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 04:43:45 -0000 Guys, A friend spend a few hours taking out my crummy IOGear KVM switch that failed to work properly. He dropped in a Belkin; so now I *can* button over to my Dell dou server and get X11 working. Plus lots of other things. I want some GUI so I can get my UPS set up properly. Right now, the server is text-only. What ports to I need to install to get the X-Window System up? I'll probably use KDE and some other GUI stuff. I will eventually use the server as a print server for anything OOo or PDF. Whatever. It has been nearly ten years since I last dealt with getting-X-going. Right now I have ballpark 530 ports installed. Can anybody give me the command that I can type from /usr/ports? Also, what do I add to ~kline/[*]? tia, y'all, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 05:56:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2DD1065672 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 05:56:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4138FC12 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 05:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o9A5twcI045472; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:55:59 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:55:58 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: kes-kes@yandex.ru In-Reply-To: <20101009204915.0360410656F1@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20101010161330.R2036@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20101009204915.0360410656F1@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to obtain which interrupts cause system to hang? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 05:56:02 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 331, Issue 13, Message: 8 On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 20:05:48 +0300 ??????? ??????? wrote: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Hi KES, long time .. > #systat -v > 1 users Load 0.74 0.71 0.55 Oct 9 19:53 [..] > Proc: Interrupts > r p d s w Csw Trp Sys Int Sof Flt 24 cow 2008 total > 2 3 39 23k 67 563 9 1710 47 15 zfod 9 ata0 irq14 > ozfod nfe0 irq23 > 23.1%Sys 50.8%Intr 1.3%User 0.0%Nice 24.8%Idle %ozfod 1999 cpu0: time > | | | | | | | | | | | daefr > ============+++++++++++++++++++++++++> 6 prcfr Yes, system and esp. interrupt time is heavy .. 23k context switches!? In addition to b. f.'s good advice .. as you later said, 2000 Hz slicing _should_ be ok, unless a slow CPU? Or perhaps a fast CPU throttled back too far .. powerd? Check sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq while this is happening. Disable p4tcc if it's a modern CPU; that usually hurts more than helps. Disable polling if you're using that .. you haven't provided much info, like is this with any network load, despite nfe0 showing no interrupts? > #top > last pid: 24571; load averages: 0.10, 0.49, 0.50 up 0+19:15:01 19:56:36 > 42 processes: 3 running, 39 sleeping > CPU: 0.7% user, 0.0% nice, 21.0% system, 36.3% interrupt, 41.9% idle > Mem: 305M Active, 767M Inact, 252M Wired, 468K Cache, 213M Buf, 650M Free > Swap: 4063M Total, 4063M Free > > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU COMMAND > 1054 bind 4 4 0 134M 109M kqread 0:51 0.00% named > 986 root 1 44 0 5692K 1408K RUN 0:50 0.00% syslogd > 1162 clamav 1 4 0 4616K 1468K accept 0:46 0.00% smtp-gated > 11731 clamav 1 20 0 27948K 9728K pause 0:03 0.00% freshclam > 11791 root 1 -58 0 7848K 4120K bpf 0:02 0.00% arpwatch > 13208 root 1 44 0 10700K 4144K select 0:01 0.00% sendmail > 13298 root 1 8 0 6748K 1440K nanslp 0:00 0.00% cron > 12802 root 1 44 0 22880K 4004K select 0:00 0.00% sshd > > > How to obtain what nasty happen, which process take 36-50% of CPU > resource? Try 'top -S'. It's almost certainly system process[es], not shown above. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 07:50:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7D51065679 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 07:50:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward6.mail.yandex.net (forward6.mail.yandex.net [77.88.60.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165D98FC19 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 07:50:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp6.mail.yandex.net (smtp6.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.56]) by forward6.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id D3FA2BB095B; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:50:38 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1286697038; bh=+ELtMtOkVv4a5aBG8gUFWOIy7amwZzNhyu4VHIbY5RQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DoFHt7IpOCloUjE/Hv1ilghA2ZTRjOceImi7elKZmCxxTYvAlOOTsAT5tcMPMqLPz A6+MvlPEx5lDoJrU3sNVHDRnfGXx/7Kj6va5d+QpYIzTsi2HURMc+os2V7NB8NaA6N oQO2Ba7628svyBvOLDDsJvSj2OwFIFBZSyXl/MPE= Received: from HOMEUSER (mail.freeline.in.ua [77.93.36.201]) by smtp6.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTPA id 5B3263280B0; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:50:38 +0400 (MSD) X-Nat-Received: from [192.168.11.28]:1481 [ident-empty] by SPAM FILTER: with TPROXY id 1286697131.36321 abuse-to kes-kes@yandex.ru Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:50:41 +0300 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1076883893.20101010105041@yandex.ru> To: Ian Smith In-Reply-To: <20101010161330.R2036@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20101009204915.0360410656F1@hub.freebsd.org> <20101010161330.R2036@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1286697038 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp6.mail.yandex.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: How to obtain which interrupts cause system to hang? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 07:50:44 -0000 Çäðàâñòâóéòå, Ian. Âû ïèñàëè 10 îêòÿáðÿ 2010 ã., 8:55:58: IS> In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 331, Issue 13, Message: 8 IS> On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 20:05:48 +0300 ??????? ??????? wrote: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 IS> ^^^^^^^^^^^^ IS> Hi KES, long time .. >> #systat -v >> 1 users Load 0.74 0.71 0.55 Oct 9 19:53 IS> [..] >> Proc: Interrupts >> r p d s w Csw Trp Sys Int Sof Flt 24 cow 2008 total >> 2 3 39 23k 67 563 9 1710 47 15 zfod 9 ata0 irq14 >> ozfod nfe0 irq23 >> 23.1%Sys 50.8%Intr 1.3%User 0.0%Nice 24.8%Idle %ozfod 1999 cpu0: time >> | | | | | | | | | | | daefr >> ============+++++++++++++++++++++++++> 6 prcfr IS> Yes, system and esp. interrupt time is heavy .. 23k context switches!? IS> In addition to b. f.'s good advice .. as you later said, 2000 Hz slicing IS> _should_ be ok, unless a slow CPU? Or perhaps a fast CPU throttled back IS> too far .. powerd? Check sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq while this is happening. IS> Disable p4tcc if it's a modern CPU; that usually hurts more than helps. IS> Disable polling if you're using that .. you haven't provided much info, IS> like is this with any network load, despite nfe0 showing no interrupts? Polling is ON. Traffice is about 60Mbit/s routed from nfe0 to vlan4 on rl0 when interrupts are happen traffic slow down to 25-30Mbit/s. There is no p4tcc option in KERNEL config file. disable/enable polling does not help. situation still same. sysctl -a | grep freq kern.acct_chkfreq: 15 kern.timecounter.tc.i8254.frequency: 1193182 kern.timecounter.tc.ACPI-fast.frequency: 3579545 kern.timecounter.tc.TSC.frequency: 1809280975 net.inet.sctp.sack_freq: 2 debug.cpufreq.verbose: 0 debug.cpufreq.lowest: 0 machdep.acpi_timer_freq: 3579545 machdep.tsc_freq: 1809280975 machdep.i8254_freq: 1193182 >> #top >> last pid: 24571; load averages: 0.10, 0.49, 0.50 up 0+19:15:01 19:56:36 >> 42 processes: 3 running, 39 sleeping >> CPU: 0.7% user, 0.0% nice, 21.0% system, 36.3% interrupt, 41.9% idle >> Mem: 305M Active, 767M Inact, 252M Wired, 468K Cache, 213M Buf, 650M Free >> Swap: 4063M Total, 4063M Free >> >> PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU COMMAND >> 1054 bind 4 4 0 134M 109M kqread 0:51 0.00% named >> 986 root 1 44 0 5692K 1408K RUN 0:50 0.00% syslogd >> 1162 clamav 1 4 0 4616K 1468K accept 0:46 0.00% smtp-gated >> 11731 clamav 1 20 0 27948K 9728K pause 0:03 0.00% freshclam >> 11791 root 1 -58 0 7848K 4120K bpf 0:02 0.00% arpwatch >> 13208 root 1 44 0 10700K 4144K select 0:01 0.00% sendmail >> 13298 root 1 8 0 6748K 1440K nanslp 0:00 0.00% cron >> 12802 root 1 44 0 22880K 4004K select 0:00 0.00% sshd >> >> >> How to obtain what nasty happen, which process take 36-50% of CPU >> resource? IS> Try 'top -S'. It's almost certainly system process[es], not shown above. -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Êîíüêîâ mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 08:40:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41620106566B for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:40:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5498FC14 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:40:32 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiYGAIIYsUxUXebr/2dsb2JhbACUL417cbcuhUgE Received: from outmx07.plus.net ([84.93.230.235]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 10 Oct 2010 09:40:31 +0100 Received: from helix.plus.com ([84.92.153.232] helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by outmx07.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1P4rSI-0005Jj-SX; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:40:31 +0100 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P4rSH-0000pl-HY; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:40:29 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:40:29 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4CB0A8A1.5040904@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: <4CB0A8A1.5040904@qeng-ho.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201010100940.29438.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Caleb Stein , Arthur Chance Subject: Re: Clean up / filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:40:33 -0000 On Saturday 09 October 2010, Arthur Chance wrote: > Not if running an X desktop, as all sorts of things get stuck in /tmp > that are needed. In single user mode it should be safe, and it > probably is when simply running on the console. > > As a long term solution, if you wish to clear /tmp every reboot add > clear_tmp_enable=3D"YES"=A0=A0# Clear /tmp at startup. > to your /etc/rc.conf Also consider using periodic(8) to do a safe daily cleanup deleting=20 files in /tmp not accessed in the last 3 days. You need to add=20 daily_clean_tmps_enable=3D"YES" to /etc/periodic.conf. If you prefer a=20 different retention period you can set it by adding a line setting=20 daily_clean_tmps_days to the desired value. You can also modify the=20 default list of files to ignore with the variable=20 daily_clean_tmps_ignore =2D-=20 Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 09:03:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02506106564A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:03:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cybernautape@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63F78FC0C for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:03:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so3181738iwn.13 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 02:03:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=j6xFMWWvFy8fJZKw/+aPesdRiWFRQB2zhp87Q+J/5nI=; b=LsBMTqyab8vDkinS474zdElqZ4LeuN7zMgL3vXPAFLldH0mLHCJOKop0U5gf+tOvKs 7LTYRfCZJUD86F3W74+R36FtYF/8X/KGkm1PzzH3AgvSKEvt5sOD/lbFSmGCjBF5no6a /6aK8SXg+1qvwEwR63tk45hC4EqGjUZNVD9BM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Pf8HZTG5W8o7ztngS6heVfQ645hWYnj0QDYad2b5zFXN2DuFGPBhtWXVWZHP6UpRUT W75FGggn/6muKZBxQc6u/X8hC4cRT8Ko27andSgqiLHD7ZRG/Apk9G26LRyegFXEsAx8 J5K7uwJgsRFHhk24BeZ7jv+iZmuUoaKFFHKGY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.115.2 with SMTP id i2mr1255283icq.112.1286701410834; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 02:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.150.142 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 02:03:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 04:03:30 -0500 Message-ID: From: Edgar Rodolfo To: Antonio Olivares Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help me, i can't start graphical interface in freeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:03:32 -0000 Hello my friends, look my site web, freebsd 8.1 with kde4: http://cybernautape.blogspot.com/ :), but i don't kown whith gnome, i am reading handbook, it help me :), thank Antonio, tell me, where are you from?=C2=BF, i am from Per=C3=BA, Are= quipa :) 2010/10/9 Antonio Olivares > Edgar, > > Good that kde4 works for you. > > Yes, I speak Spanish too! > > Regards, > > Antonio > > On 10/9/10, Edgar Rodolfo wrote: > > hello, i started kde4 graphical interface , i installed, gnome2 and > > kde4, gnome2 dont't work, but kde4 ok, thanks Antonio, do you speak > > spanish?, i will read the links... > > > > 2010/10/9, Antonio Olivares : > >> Edgar, > >> > >> If you want to use gnome, you might want to check the following: > >> > >> http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q1 > >> > >> Check to see that gnome-session is present, type > >> $ which gnome-session > >> > >> if you get message not found then, you did not install it? You might > >> want to use kde? > >> Check this page: > >> > >> > http://rhyous.com/2009/12/18/how-to-install-and-configure-a-freebsd-8-des= ktop-with-xorg-and-kde/ > >> > >> Hope this helps. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Antonio > >> > >> On 10/9/10, Edgar Rodolfo wrote: > >>> Hello, i am trying freebsd 8.1 from dvd, but i can't start graphical > >>> interface, gnome2 or kde4, when i am installing i chose all, then > >>> after it installed, after package selection i choose gnome2, kde4 and > >>> x window system based utilities, i choose xorg-7.5 then i put x, y > >>> others packages are in D, is it correct? y handbook i don't see , > >>> there only seen install generic, my conexion is very slowly...i can't > >>> use cd /usr/ports/.../xorg make install clean > >>> i add in /etc/rc.conf, echo 'gnome_enable=3D"YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf, > >>> also, echo 'hald_enable=3D"YES"', echo 'dbus_enable=3D"YES"', also i = put > >>> echo exec gnome-sesion >> .xinitrc, :(, when i started startx, the > >>> message is: > >>> exec gnome-session: not found > >>> waiting for x server to shut down failed to unset mtrr: Device not > >>> configured > >>> xauth: (argv):1: bad display name "edgar.localhost:0" in "remove" > command > >>> in handbook say that xorg 7.5 no configured, default startx,it will > >>> start, don't know, help me please, i want to learn freebsd > >>> note:handbook > >>> 5.4.2. Configurar X11 > >>> > >>> A partir de la versi=C3=B3n 7.3 Xorg puede funcionar sin utilizar fic= hero > >>> de configuraci=C3=B3n; basta con teclear en el prompt: > >>> > >>> % start > >>> excuse me my english is very bad :( > >>> > >>> -- > >>> =E2=96=81 =E2=96=82 =E2=96=83 =E2=96=84 =E2=96=85 =E2=96=86 =E2=96=87= =E2=96=88 > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >>> > >> > > > > > > -- > > =E2=96=81 =E2=96=82 =E2=96=83 =E2=96=84 =E2=96=85 =E2=96=86 =E2=96=87 = =E2=96=88 > > > --=20 =E2=96=81 =E2=96=82 =E2=96=83 =E2=96=84 =E2=96=85 =E2=96=86 =E2=96=87 =E2= =96=88 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 09:31:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16AED106564A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:31:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) Received: from pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:5f6:3::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8488FC1A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:31:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (localhost.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:::1]) by pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578F157378; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:31:36 +0900 (KST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=izb.knu.ac.kr; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:content-type; s=soyeomul; i=bh@izb.knu.ac.kr; bh=3 sX6VTmozoHDsnI/U9QS727JwqlbWWab4lbvv8FcdG0=; b=Ojg8AK66J8AGPfWUT iGFnlrekSi/pgRZuxYekiFYl+S6Mox22u3ed8lYkUQjg61awUz5/XfC7aI2SnY/f j80ixKXX0tvYZOT4iuUsKfd2rTBYZOZbetsAxJ7bHaXHJafkDC3qlbPuSrqxC3TM ackVVS2O5q9zTMpI0oIX5/UVEg= Received: from betla.izb.knu.ac.kr (betla.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:5f6:3::b]) by pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9AE57375; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:31:36 +0900 (KST) Received: from betla.home (unknown [59.24.179.60]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) by betla.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C811CCF0; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:31:35 +0900 (KST) From: Byung-Hee HWANG To: Gary Kline Organization: GR References: <20101010044340.GB3405@thought.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEVMM2UIAhGJrpkJDwsD AwgJAggKPnwFBAIEBAQJAjTkRM0eAAACN0lEQVQ4jW3Tv2sbMRQHcPnSDt78bMWctkOBgDc7 10I8Cl6DOpZm6RgPBx4LgbrjUbVVNiuXHNF/2yfJzqnEwmDfffyV9PSD2UNTfuu9A/65cT39 AnZ4j8pTcxzM/HlO4F8BnAcHCK14CuBeQXAFAJwbg/MmS2igEDWtrfZ9PyQiiJCxei1o+CNY bUJX4J1Cr8TQlbWmFZ3vijFwT58c7kW3Z3K84oJrFAPYds8Yk6zmwnGLGai9rApZnaGgBbAZ wF6GdoY3DiADA74IMMa5KzFPGEWDSLmAiSttDkhTqUVxAX+c/g9ER7BeVnzyZAdA5Go9Y+OC ydXNXZlDCetJtfpWyXp6xzNQmkA+i0J+nI7jGJjKVjPfXYUKpXtc3AbQR2CraazQP17StKgr /QpXEZrNAdIY7Wx/HmHR91U2K8XP10BLSEvS94scoPUJvN/mCVSqxiVBBdCzAbDkeG2/XlVy BCA8ZoD4AZdUxYsiABPABNCIhsagnng4LDvL0LYYijdWCZrsRTx3YUnQGh46+0sZ2tv3MZ1A xdKNxnuYFO9onTEClYZpHX//LNjyOiRs2ihzhO9MVnYACqo051YUZwMYhXEW1L7s2XU6LxZv I6g4L1NTeSm7+wUBlCpD3Cyl3KXEqq5ZG+8RhEfBqsN2jrqaQYQ2PH/qRqmnh4auGgjnXPrj j1udunqg887i/daHXTlA+Gbgm8aX9k1jvifQp2Ajm+2pRL+hk3QKGikv3dv3IdE4cwL+ATzH tMu8OktOAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Url: http://izb.knu.ac.kr/~bh/ X-Window-System: GNU Network Object Model Environment OpenPGP: id=96B196FE (expiration: 2013-10-26); perference=sign Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:31:19 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20101010044340.GB3405@thought.org> (Gary Kline's message of "Sat, 9 Oct 2010 21:43:40 -0700") Message-ID: <868w26qtqw.fsf@betla.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how now [green] KDE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:31:39 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary Kline writes: > Guys, > > A friend spend a few hours taking out my crummy IOGear KVM switch > that failed to work properly. He dropped in a Belkin; so now I > *can* button over to my Dell dou server and get X11 working. Plus > lots of other things. > > I want some GUI so I can get my UPS set up properly. Right now, the > server is text-only. What ports to I need to install to get the > X-Window System up? I'll probably use KDE and some other GUI stuff. > I will eventually use the server as a print server for anything OOo > or PDF. Whatever. Use pkg_add(1). That is easy, fast for installing packages. > It has been nearly ten years since I last dealt with > getting-X-going. Right now I have ballpark 530 ports installed. > Can anybody give me the command that I can type from /usr/ports? > Also, what do I add to ~kline/[*]? > > tia, y'all, > > gary Sincerely, =2D-=20 =EC=86=8C=EC=97=AC=EB=AC=BC =ED=99=A9=EB=B3=91=ED=9D=AC(=E9=BB=83=E7=82=B3= =E7=86=99) | .. =EC=B6=9C=ED=95=AD 15=EB=B6=84=EC=A0=84.. "You would have been awfully insulted if I didn't even try." -- Jules Seagul, "Chapter 22", page 307 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkyxh/EACgkQsCouaZaxlv49SgCeLHn8p3W7gh0NLzvnLw/LuBAk kPcAmgOPQjaMgm+wbC+0lW/SpN3oZC// =JZ1E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 09:36:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC4E1065679 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:36:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) Received: from pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:5f6:3::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC098FC08 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:36:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (localhost.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:::1]) by pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8076657378; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:36:18 +0900 (KST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=izb.knu.ac.kr; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:content-type; s=soyeomul; i=bh@izb.knu.ac.kr; bh=B ZKTxomTrbbp1xEey+nNosmRacneBwsudC0q3E156+8=; b=VnQtWogqVE1sWEW/Z wpBops3pFipgxM4tH47VBVGlItJsxvpCA0kFM+rQhVal8SqlUnsqxKi0YPxkxJwz rlx3h2jZqgYQFflL1r3pLR3Syvs1J/9VMkmeP5WiZcdjlekMMXT+g3vFs5dhPI4C 5LerzbkrJfoBWPu4nGbfPwvQq8= Received: from betla.izb.knu.ac.kr (betla.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:5f6:3::b]) by pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6708F57375; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:36:18 +0900 (KST) Received: from betla.home (unknown [59.24.179.60]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) by betla.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46551CCF0; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:36:17 +0900 (KST) From: Byung-Hee HWANG To: Edgar Rodolfo Organization: GR References: Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEVMM2UIAhGJrpkJDwsD AwgJAggKPnwFBAIEBAQJAjTkRM0eAAACN0lEQVQ4jW3Tv2sbMRQHcPnSDt78bMWctkOBgDc7 10I8Cl6DOpZm6RgPBx4LgbrjUbVVNiuXHNF/2yfJzqnEwmDfffyV9PSD2UNTfuu9A/65cT39 AnZ4j8pTcxzM/HlO4F8BnAcHCK14CuBeQXAFAJwbg/MmS2igEDWtrfZ9PyQiiJCxei1o+CNY bUJX4J1Cr8TQlbWmFZ3vijFwT58c7kW3Z3K84oJrFAPYds8Yk6zmwnGLGai9rApZnaGgBbAZ wF6GdoY3DiADA74IMMa5KzFPGEWDSLmAiSttDkhTqUVxAX+c/g9ER7BeVnzyZAdA5Go9Y+OC ydXNXZlDCetJtfpWyXp6xzNQmkA+i0J+nI7jGJjKVjPfXYUKpXtc3AbQR2CraazQP17StKgr /QpXEZrNAdIY7Wx/HmHR91U2K8XP10BLSEvS94scoPUJvN/mCVSqxiVBBdCzAbDkeG2/XlVy BCA8ZoD4AZdUxYsiABPABNCIhsagnng4LDvL0LYYijdWCZrsRTx3YUnQGh46+0sZ2tv3MZ1A xdKNxnuYFO9onTEClYZpHX//LNjyOiRs2ihzhO9MVnYACqo051YUZwMYhXEW1L7s2XU6LxZv I6g4L1NTeSm7+wUBlCpD3Cyl3KXEqq5ZG+8RhEfBqsN2jrqaQYQ2PH/qRqmnh4auGgjnXPrj j1udunqg887i/daHXTlA+Gbgm8aX9k1jvifQp2Ajm+2pRL+hk3QKGikv3dv3IdE4cwL+ATzH tMu8OktOAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Url: http://izb.knu.ac.kr/~bh/ X-Window-System: GNU Network Object Model Environment OpenPGP: id=96B196FE (expiration: 2013-10-26); perference=sign Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:36:03 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Edgar Rodolfo's message of "Sun, 10 Oct 2010 04:03:30 -0500") Message-ID: <864ocuqtj0.fsf@betla.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Antonio Olivares Subject: Re: help me, i can't start graphical interface in freeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:36:19 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Edgar Rodolfo writes: > [...] > :), but i don't kown whith gnome, i am reading handbook, it help me :), > [...] That is easy. Just add in /etc/rc.conf as following: gnome_enable=3D"YES" That's all. Sincerely, =2D-=20 =EC=86=8C=EC=97=AC=EB=AC=BC =ED=99=A9=EB=B3=91=ED=9D=AC(=E9=BB=83=E7=82=B3= =E7=86=99) | .. =EC=B6=9C=ED=95=AD 15=EB=B6=84=EC=A0=84.. "There's no way of stopping our people from going into that business." -- Frank Falcone, "Chapter 20", page 287 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkyxiQwACgkQsCouaZaxlv7FkwCeKjnXT5FmQXubDMZaU2J1EnOb sB4AoMLOyGQbp9d+vRSQhqt6rm4KkfcF =dlBs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 10:39:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A94106566C for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:39:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7078FC08 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o9AAdm7B061983; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 21:39:48 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 21:39:48 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: kes-kes@yandex.ru In-Reply-To: <1076883893.20101010105041@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <20101010194711.Y2036@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20101009204915.0360410656F1@hub.freebsd.org> <20101010161330.R2036@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1076883893.20101010105041@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: How to obtain which interrupts cause system to hang? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:39:51 -0000 On Sun, 10 Oct 2010, ??????? ??????? wrote: > >> #systat -v > >> 1 users Load 0.74 0.71 0.55 Oct 9 19:53 > IS> [..] > >> Proc: Interrupts > >> r p d s w Csw Trp Sys Int Sof Flt 24 cow 2008 total > >> 2 3 39 23k 67 563 9 1710 47 15 zfod 9 ata0 irq14 > >> ozfod nfe0 irq23 > >> 23.1%Sys 50.8%Intr 1.3%User 0.0%Nice 24.8%Idle %ozfod 1999 cpu0: time > >> | | | | | | | | | | | daefr > >> ============+++++++++++++++++++++++++> 6 prcfr > > IS> Yes, system and esp. interrupt time is heavy .. 23k context switches!? > > IS> In addition to b. f.'s good advice .. as you later said, 2000 Hz slicing > IS> _should_ be ok, unless a slow CPU? Or perhaps a fast CPU throttled back > IS> too far .. powerd? Check sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq while this is happening. > > IS> Disable p4tcc if it's a modern CPU; that usually hurts more than helps. > IS> Disable polling if you're using that .. you haven't provided much info, > IS> like is this with any network load, despite nfe0 showing no interrupts? > Polling is ON. Traffice is about 60Mbit/s routed from nfe0 to vlan4 on rl0 > when interrupts are happen traffic slow down to 25-30Mbit/s. Out of my depth. If it's a net problem - maybe not - you may do better in freebsd-net@ if you provide enough information (dmesg plus ifconfig, vmstat -i etc, normally and while this problem is happening). > There is no p4tcc option in KERNEL config file. No, it can be enabled by cpufreq(4). See dmesg for acpi_throttle or p4tcc, but it looks like you might not have device cpufreq in your kernel or loaded, or dev.cpu.0.freq and more would have shown below. > disable/enable polling does not help. situation still same. > sysctl -a | grep freq > kern.acct_chkfreq: 15 > kern.timecounter.tc.i8254.frequency: 1193182 > kern.timecounter.tc.ACPI-fast.frequency: 3579545 > kern.timecounter.tc.TSC.frequency: 1809280975 > net.inet.sctp.sack_freq: 2 > debug.cpufreq.verbose: 0 > debug.cpufreq.lowest: 0 > machdep.acpi_timer_freq: 3579545 > machdep.tsc_freq: 1809280975 > machdep.i8254_freq: 1193182 Only useful for what it doesn't show :) > >> How to obtain what nasty happen, which process take 36-50% of CPU > >> resource? > > IS> Try 'top -S'. It's almost certainly system process[es], not shown above. Does that not show anything? Also, something like 'ps auxww | less' should show you what's using all that CPU. I'm out of wild clues. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 11:35:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FCA106564A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D168FC1A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:35:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so3275816iwn.13 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 04:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.157.205 with SMTP id c13mr3849730ibx.71.1286710501109; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 04:35:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.166.77 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 04:34:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201010100940.29438.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> References: <4CB0A8A1.5040904@qeng-ho.org> <201010100940.29438.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> From: Eitan Adler Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:34:40 +0000 Message-ID: To: Mike Clarke Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Caleb Stein , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Arthur Chance Subject: Re: Clean up / filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:35:02 -0000 On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Mike Clarke wrote: > On Saturday 09 October 2010, Arthur Chance wrote: > >> Not if running an X desktop, as all sorts of things get stuck in /tmp >> that are needed. In single user mode it should be safe, and it >> probably is when simply running on the console. >> >> As a long term solution, if you wish to clear /tmp every reboot add >> clear_tmp_enable=3D"YES"=C2=A0=C2=A0# Clear /tmp at startup. >> to your /etc/rc.conf > You may also want to consider changing /tmp to be a TMPFS file system add the line tmpfs /tmp tmpfs rw,mode=3D01777 0 0 to /etc/fstab (and remove any other /tmp lines). A warning will come saying that it is highly experimental - but I've been running with it for a while now without any issues. --=20 Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 11:47:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B6191065674 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:47:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65EB8FC20 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:47:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o9ABXokw025657; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 07:33:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 07:33:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20101010044340.GB3405@thought.org> Message-ID: References: <20101010044340.GB3405@thought.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how now [green] KDE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:47:12 -0000 On Sat, 9 Oct 2010, Gary Kline wrote: > It has been nearly ten years since I last dealt with getting-X-going. > Right now I have ballpark 530 ports installed. Can anybody give me the > command that I can type from /usr/ports? Last time I installed X, I used the x11/xorg metaport and pkg_add: pkg_add -r xorg ...much faster than building ports. I don't know how much about KDE, but I'd suggest that you get X working first and then tackle KDE, rather than try to do everything in one big step. > Also, what do I add to ~kline/[*]? I have the file .xinitrc in ~, but I think that gets created by the xorg install process. Don't know what you would need for KDE, but I would hope the package/port would create a default version of whatever you need. Hope it goes well! -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 14:34:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1E51065670 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:34:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA248FC0C for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:34:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-73-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.73.80]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404D53D3C5; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:34:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o9AEYdCL001458; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:34:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:34:39 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chris Hill Message-Id: <20101010163439.c0d44a6b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20101010044340.GB3405@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how now [green] KDE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:34:42 -0000 On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 07:33:50 -0400 (EDT), Chris Hill wrote: > On Sat, 9 Oct 2010, Gary Kline wrote: > > Also, what do I add to ~kline/[*]? > > I have the file .xinitrc in ~, but I think that gets created by the xorg > install process. No. Install processes usually do not do anything inside a user's home directory. Depending on using xdm (will work with KDE) or kdm (KDE's own graphical login manager), or simply "startx" (without any display manager), you will have to create ~/.xinitrc and (or) ~/.xsession. Those are shell scripts executed at X startup. As I am not a KDE user, I can only guess about what command actually starts KDE; I think it is "startkde". So your ~/.xsession file could look like this: exec startkde A shebang line may be included, but is not required. If you're using the C shell (FreeBSD's standard dialog shell) and want to obtain its settings (you may have customized them), OR when you're using X by "startx" without a display manager, you may consider using the two-stage approach, which is: ~/.xsession #!/bin/csh source ~/.cshrc exec ~/.xinitrc If a display manager is present, it will inherit the C shell's settings and then "switch over to" xinitrc mechanism. ~/.xinitrc #!/bin/sh # Your customized commands here, e. g. [ -f ~/.xmodmaprc ] && xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc xrandr --fb 1400x1050 xrandr --size 1400x1050 xsetroot -solid rgb:3b/4c/7a xterm -fg black -bg beige -title Terminal & xset b 100 1000 15 & xset r rate 250 30 & xset s off & xset -dpms & # And finally your window manager or desktop environment: exec startkde # I have "exec wmaker" here :-) With this setup, you can use a) xdm b) kdm c) any other dm d) no dm (startx only, even per auto-login) > Don't know what you would need for KDE, but I would hope > the package/port would create a default version of whatever you need. The "startkde" command should be fully sufficient, as all other things are to be configured inside KDE. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 13:40:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007361065673 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 13:40:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdsfbsd@att.net) Received: from nm24.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm24.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA8468FC12 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 13:40:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm24.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Oct 2010 13:27:24 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.194] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Oct 2010 13:27:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1052.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Oct 2010 13:27:23 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 605571.52221.bm@omp1052.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 41731 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2010 13:27:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1286717243; bh=+9mJIkl2CafYftSZEx3NSvxfbarNpOpm5n1cMlJwSyY=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:To:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=ZsiPoROfXjZvfbVKaNcCvxUNmmFj9dGBCbfFxnCSgp/pjLgCL0cqPl/dTpokzCnKpjMFup56DjAZTrIQ0xtygNHMa9LuG7dBLkhl4FfmYi5t+NVkuBNH6MW/+lKxYUM1gAksPBEbmSWi5Xh3D3oCQmWgNh0SRg/qAnfPpzeKoh0= Received: from galileo (bdsfbsd@99.36.54.154 with login) by smtp104.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2010 06:27:22 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: d5tX3UiswBBe7eAro3WwBCIcMc7tMmv23kUXyA-- X-YMail-OSG: NinRfAQVM1k4BzCrTBM0kneIkO1fmZKIwOV7B43zTXNVbZt Y23.Mbi4AdJg5v8cODp2Hi_Jltiw12Ao0gCqXU3wb.HU_HCXeViZeOnc8gsP 8J5CSp.Vz.aOVeScgxPPjekOrq65a.uEAo1HtmGjfm5B8.ZweM5Ymvmrw_mE L89CpvTX0dq2hNFVIV_G.jlhI7Te.4eqX4IqFueBFB754UMx5ZPPEt0Hcnae qWCgebzSRfW2DDI4VFvDf6WhYARpYaUmcAkqsJ2m85l4qo6kP3rpiFaN3YfL Zszw- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20101009014310.O2036@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4CAFF3C8.30703@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:26:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: bdsfbsd@att.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.62 (Linux) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:48:04 +0000 Subject: Re: Like it or not, Theo is having a good laugh .. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 13:40:46 -0000 On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 12:47:04 -0400, Rob Farmer wrote: > On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 05:30, Henry Olyer wrote: >> I'm not sure which writer said it, but whoever it is who started that >> paragraph with "Kinda wish you..." you sir are the problem. Not just a >> problem for us FreeBSDer's, but also for American's. > > While we are analyzing people's behavior, please don't top-post. > >> >> You probably don't see yourself that way. I understand that. But what >> you >> are doing is surrilous. That's when instead of making the points >> underlying > > "Surrilous" isn't an English word, nor an obvious typo of one, so I > have no idea what you mean here. > >> your position you resort to name calling and bad mouthing. > > Any "name calling" I may have done was only after many other people > did it first - the only difference is every message I've sent has the > list CC'd. > >> >> Disagree? Well, re-read what you wrote. See what I mean? > > I *still* see no explaination of why the EAR doesn't apply or why I am > wrong - just tangents about my world view, etc. The only other person > who actually addressed the issue of US export laws, Robert Bonomi, > largely agreed with me. Is this an overly restrictive and outdated > law? Probably, but it still exists. > Rob, you are not the person that wrote "Kinda wish you...", right? So Henry's comments weren't directed at you? I'm just sayin'.. As for this thread, I am so like OMG, whatever, dude. Seriously. Do we need a separate list for licensing issues and amateur lawyer-ball? Because when it comes to legal opinions and forming license policy, I am not believing a word I read on this list. Some people may be right, some most certainly are not, but this is definitely not the forum for the discussion. Perhaps people interpret the word "questions" differently. Basically Theo did some bald-faced trolling -- in jest, mind you -- on a separate list, and that got imported to this list for more trollish fun. Enjoy. Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 14:08:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBE6106566B for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:08:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdsfbsd@att.net) Received: from smtp104.sbc.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp104.sbc.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 05EE38FC08 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 49408 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2010 13:42:00 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1286718120; bh=UbkM6AJ5FSfsQ5dPTU5ONg7QSysoeQ6JpaNpz2PQIpg=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:To:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=U65WtwXXvA79FpjTYKHGMFYWBTcqlyfCKgjJg5qD1TBABDwCRh0zcmM7si3YNSy1U6Uu3DNhNH/+EFovaC1zHtdqE1L4jfv6T3azG0Y3Bey8Ft18Y2YWz9iFAKRBdel6kJ59nZxhYlGK1RBt2kEZjuiej510y/T//C99N3yunIE= Received: from galileo (bdsfbsd@99.36.54.154 with login) by smtp104.sbc.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2010 06:42:00 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: d5tX3UiswBBe7eAro3WwBCIcMc7tMmv23kUXyA-- X-YMail-OSG: tVHli4QVM1nljVWZF.8opFvJJ9ExNaMnxOAfD_ObxHr4jv_ Hxt8xQjBOFpojWgQkOhN3ectuzChehRvcDbjduDQriF1S8IpQ7HRmLoup7EI WjwjmHDBV1ZR4R92jaZ1.XGdmaF9d7c2Gtx1hwLILRw9e6UP.tQODi59qIV9 ncm2oBou3DehRC7AKHse_TsSF7BjvvP_Ve0JTq9JFcX7vWcmGY.PsuParYBN iTtg9Iol.qN1.jyiZN5GxNO91NMiN_oVwqdGWrKvv X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4CB0A8A1.5040904@qeng-ho.org> <201010100940.29438.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:41:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: bdsfbsd@att.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.62 (Linux) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:48:34 +0000 Subject: Re: Clean up / filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:08:42 -0000 On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 07:34:40 -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Mike Clarke > wrote: >> On Saturday 09 October 2010, Arthur Chance wrote: >> >>> Not if running an X desktop, as all sorts of things get stuck in /tmp >>> that are needed. In single user mode it should be safe, and it >>> probably is when simply running on the console. >>> >>> As a long term solution, if you wish to clear /tmp every reboot add >>> clear_tmp_enable="YES" # Clear /tmp at startup. >>> to your /etc/rc.conf >> > > You may also want to consider changing /tmp to be a TMPFS file system > > add the line > tmpfs /tmp tmpfs rw,mode=01777 0 0 > > to /etc/fstab (and remove any other /tmp lines). > > A warning will come saying that it is highly experimental - but I've > been running with it for a while now without any issues. > I have been using tmpfs (mount /tmp in memory instead of on the hard drive) on my netbook to save writes to the SSD, and have had no problems. While there may be important stuff in /tmp at the moment you are running the system for some reason (like X, apparently), there shouldn't be anything in there that needs to survive a reboot, if that gives you an indication of the safeness of deleting things. That's my understanding, if I'm wrong I'd be interested to hear it. Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 14:58:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA3A106566B for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:58:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FFC8FC13 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:58:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-73-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.73.80]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917DB3D248; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:58:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o9AEwpVV001526; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:58:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:58:50 +0200 From: Polytropon To: bdsfbsd@att.net Message-Id: <20101010165850.3329e09a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4CB0A8A1.5040904@qeng-ho.org> <201010100940.29438.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clean up / filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:58:53 -0000 On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:41:16 -0400, bdsfbsd@att.net wrote: > While there may be important stuff in /tmp at the moment you are running > the system for some reason (like X, apparently), there shouldn't be > anything in there that needs to survive a reboot, if that gives you an > indication of the safeness of deleting things. That's my understanding, if > I'm wrong I'd be interested to hear it. I also understodd the meaning of /tmp in this way - "does not need to survive reboot". For things that have a kind of temporary nature, but have to survivve a reboot, /var/tmp is usually used. For example, mergemaster's temproot/ tree resides here, as well as LaTeX's texfonts/ or vi's vi.recover/ subtrees. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 15:01:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A2F106566C for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A108FC13 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:01:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so3435909iwn.13 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.210.136 with SMTP id gk8mr1319977icb.373.1286722863088; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:01:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.166.77 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:00:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101010165850.3329e09a.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <4CB0A8A1.5040904@qeng-ho.org> <201010100940.29438.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <20101010165850.3329e09a.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Eitan Adler Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:00:43 +0000 Message-ID: To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: bdsfbsd@att.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clean up / filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:01:04 -0000 > I also understodd the meaning of /tmp in this way - "does not need > to survive reboot". For things that have a kind of temporary nature, > but have to survivve a reboot, /var/tmp is usually used. I did not know that. I aliased /var/tmp to /tmp which is tmpfsed I'm guessing I should undo that - right? -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 15:21:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2C5106564A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:21:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesbrandongooch@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A748FC0A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:21:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb36 with SMTP id 36so107437wyb.13 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:20:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=iIo5Uako0gBHnPi7XzpCTSWQg5RHr5FXc4mmtIToZH0=; b=b+17CIt6tOAIKx9Wam1CYf3FKvNLdH01r3ovWVkex3yYod94wY+JYq/wOyHSCZmuiS Wiso0fX5c6uFT1GEvdl9rvp+YIiQdQSwVpnSp7OkoGJf1WaeaTJ/9ZX36R7j5uotmQyi jPQrg60DwDTjL0Qj+555uURfYSLMScH4FbKY8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=h5lkt+044JjMCtQQx06/4VPdGObOEjxfQ/lHHC0NICcAZl2IR50WPX8L9N0sXBFcYP cZcBluRywbFK8K+zDn1NsWHz4Uw8/iqHa1v/UH63PUI+Sgp9esRHan9Z2mBSBfl81O69 1kh4I2zhmmbooxd7T2Mj2/SNsrHTpgPmDKdOE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.145.198 with SMTP id p48mr560666wej.18.1286724051322; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.133.133 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:20:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101009175535.GA1567@hogwarts.local> References: <20101009175535.GA1567@hogwarts.local> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:20:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: Brandon Gooch To: Arvid Warnecke Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which OS for notebook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:21:00 -0000 On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Arvid Warnecke wrote: > Hello, > > On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 01:11:30AM -0300, Leandro F Silva wrote: >> Which OS are you using on your notebook, FreeBSD / Linux or MAC ? >> Also, can you tell us the hardware, Sony / HP etc.. >> > Right now I use Mac OSX on my MacBook Pro and FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE on my > IBM/Lenovo T60 Notebook. > > The only issue I have with FreeBSD is the configuration for > suspend/resume and battery lifetime (the big battery lasts for ca. 3,5 > hours). > Everything else works fine. Have you taken a look at this? http://wiki.freebsd.org/TuningPowerConsumption Additionally, the new timer infrastructure has and will allow for even more power saving (especially when the "tickless" functionality is implemented): http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=209371 http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=212541 Regarding the suspend/resume; it took me a while to get my Lenovo X300 to reliably (99.9% of the time) resume. I have to kldunload the USB stack to have the ports function on resume, and I still get the occasional VGA reinit lock-up, but mostly it works :) Things have been better since I moved to 9-CURRENT... > I have been thinking about FreeBSD on the Macbook Pro dual booting (I > need Mac OSX for photography software), but I am not sure if the > hardware will be supported that well. Here's an excellent place to start your research: http://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleMacbook Good luck! -Brandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 16:11:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26AE106564A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:11:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3198FC12 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:11:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-73-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.73.80]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793371E49C; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:11:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o9AGBsLZ001718; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:11:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:11:54 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Eitan Adler Message-Id: <20101010181154.da407f35.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4CB0A8A1.5040904@qeng-ho.org> <201010100940.29438.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <20101010165850.3329e09a.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clean up / filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:12:00 -0000 On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:00:43 +0000, Eitan Adler wrote: > > I also understodd the meaning of /tmp in this way - "does not need > > to survive reboot". For things that have a kind of temporary nature, > > but have to survivve a reboot, /var/tmp is usually used. > > I did not know that. I aliased /var/tmp to /tmp which is tmpfsed > I'm guessing I should undo that - right? Just in case you encountered problems that *may* be related to mergemaster, vi, or any other software you're running that requires "persistent temporary files" (sounds illogical). There shouldn't be much stuff accumulating in /var/tmp. If you didn't have trouble yet, I don't think it is a big no-go to symlink /var/tmp tp /tmp (tmpfs). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 16:27:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F351065675 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward3.mail.yandex.net (forward3.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06168FC18 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:27:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp4.mail.yandex.net (smtp4.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.104]) by forward3.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id DCFBB56D8590; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:27:02 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1286728022; bh=YeIqbsLvZi++oiUinsdglvAXG7soY41FXbyp2Y495/o=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=r0Lx7WpTGRmHfbfObZjD14yv79x9WIedWziNl2i0Q6MbEAX80E9cF0WqxLIbcAgf0 GvVmfv7zadNxOOphEAhhW/fCxvTFOslPZWyJCjhk8iJrXmrRTWJRPsXxLGhbwXqkZg vc4N+kfWyBzNfJhiDJU5fjF1s7ylNBU0sS9qSAfo= Received: from HOMEUSER (unknown [77.93.38.34]) by smtp4.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTPA id 58D4E1280A1; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:27:02 +0400 (MSD) X-Nat-Received: from [192.168.11.87]:4182 [ident-empty] by SPAM FILTER: with TPROXY id 1286727610.57895 abuse-to kes-kes@yandex.ru Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 19:27:05 +0300 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <632460655.20101010192705@yandex.ru> To: Ian Smith In-Reply-To: <20101010194711.Y2036@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20101009204915.0360410656F1@hub.freebsd.org> <20101010161330.R2036@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1076883893.20101010105041@yandex.ru> <20101010194711.Y2036@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1286728022 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp4.mail.yandex.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[3]: How to obtain which interrupts cause system to hang? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:27:05 -0000 Hi, Ian. IS> On Sun, 10 Oct 2010, ??????? ??????? wrote: >> >> #systat -v >> >> 1 users Load 0.74 0.71 0.55 Oct 9 19:53 >> IS> [..] >> >> Proc: Interrupts >> >> r p d s w Csw Trp Sys Int Sof Flt 24 cow 2008 total >> >> 2 3 39 23k 67 563 9 1710 47 15 zfod 9 ata0 irq14 >> >> ozfod nfe0 irq23 >> >> 23.1%Sys 50.8%Intr 1.3%User 0.0%Nice 24.8%Idle %ozfod 1999 cpu0: time >> >> | | | | | | | | | | | daefr >> >> ============+++++++++++++++++++++++++> 6 prcfr >> >> IS> Yes, system and esp. interrupt time is heavy .. 23k context switches!? >> >> IS> In addition to b. f.'s good advice .. as you later said, 2000 Hz slicing >> IS> _should_ be ok, unless a slow CPU? Or perhaps a fast CPU throttled back >> IS> too far .. powerd? Check sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq while this is happening. >> >> IS> Disable p4tcc if it's a modern CPU; that usually hurts more than helps. >> IS> Disable polling if you're using that .. you haven't provided much info, >> IS> like is this with any network load, despite nfe0 showing no interrupts? >> Polling is ON. Traffice is about 60Mbit/s routed from nfe0 to vlan4 on rl0 >> when interrupts are happen traffic slow down to 25-30Mbit/s. IS> Out of my depth. If it's a net problem - maybe not - you may do better IS> in freebsd-net@ if you provide enough information (dmesg plus ifconfig, IS> vmstat -i etc, normally and while this problem is happening). >> There is no p4tcc option in KERNEL config file. IS> No, it can be enabled by cpufreq(4). See dmesg for acpi_throttle or IS> p4tcc, but it looks like you might not have device cpufreq in your IS> kernel or loaded, or dev.cpu.0.freq and more would have shown below. >> disable/enable polling does not help. situation still same. >> sysctl -a | grep freq >> kern.acct_chkfreq: 15 >> kern.timecounter.tc.i8254.frequency: 1193182 >> kern.timecounter.tc.ACPI-fast.frequency: 3579545 >> kern.timecounter.tc.TSC.frequency: 1809280975 >> net.inet.sctp.sack_freq: 2 >> debug.cpufreq.verbose: 0 >> debug.cpufreq.lowest: 0 >> machdep.acpi_timer_freq: 3579545 >> machdep.tsc_freq: 1809280975 >> machdep.i8254_freq: 1193182 IS> Only useful for what it doesn't show :) >> >> How to obtain what nasty happen, which process take 36-50% of CPU >> >> resource? >> >> IS> Try 'top -S'. It's almost certainly system process[es], not shown above. IS> Does that not show anything? Also, something like 'ps auxww | less' IS> should show you what's using all that CPU. I'm out of wild clues. vpn_shadow# top -S last pid: 57879; load averages: 0.12, 0.06, 0.05 up 1+18:37:39 19:19:14 101 processes: 2 running, 83 sleeping, 16 waiting CPU: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 14.3% system, 17.3% interrupt, 68.4% idle Mem: 319M Active, 799M Inact, 354M Wired, 336K Cache, 213M Buf, 503M Free Swap: 4063M Total, 4063M Free PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU COMMAND 11 root 1 171 ki31 0K 16K RUN 24.9H 86.47% idle: cpu0 14 root 1 -44 - 0K 16K WAIT 689:52 10.25% swi1: net 2 root 1 -68 - 0K 16K sleep 207:35 4.69% ng_queue0 40 root 1 -68 - 0K 16K - 101:37 1.46% dummynet 47 root 1 20 - 0K 16K syncer 5:29 0.29% syncer 12 root 1 -32 - 0K 16K WAIT 14:48 0.00% swi4: clock sio 15 root 1 -16 - 0K 16K - 5:39 0.00% yarrow 986 root 1 44 0 5692K 1408K select 1:29 0.00% syslogd 1054 bind 4 4 0 138M 113M kqread 1:22 0.00% named 1162 clamav 1 4 0 4616K 1468K accept 0:59 0.00% smtp-gated -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Êîíüêîâ mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 17:09:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89BC11065672 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9858FC15 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:09:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67574E83BF; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:09:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from core.nessbank (client-86-31-64-159.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.31.64.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:09:33 +0100 (BST) From: Bruce Cran To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:09:32 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/9.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.5.1; amd64; ; ) References: <20101010044340.GB3405@thought.org> <20101010163439.c0d44a6b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20101010163439.c0d44a6b.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201010101809.32590.bruce@cran.org.uk> Cc: Gary Kline Subject: Re: how now [green] KDE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:09:35 -0000 On Sunday 10 October 2010 15:34:39 Polytropon wrote: > The "startkde" command should be fully sufficient, as all other things > are to be configured inside KDE. That may be "/usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde", since /usr/local/kde4/bin probably won't be in $PATH. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 17:14:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1915D106566B for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F698FC1A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:14:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [109.84.199.235] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de.) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P4zTn-0000bJ-2K; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 19:14:35 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de. (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de. 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(8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o9AHFBQG001078; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 19:15:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de.: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 19:15:11 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Bruce Cran Message-ID: <20101010171511.GA1070@tiny> References: <20101010044340.GB3405@thought.org> <20101010163439.c0d44a6b.freebsd@edvax.de> <201010101809.32590.bruce@cran.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <201010101809.32590.bruce@cran.org.uk> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 109.84.199.235 Cc: Gary Kline , Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how now [green] KDE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:14:39 -0000 El día Sunday, October 10, 2010 a las 06:09:32PM +0100, Bruce Cran escribió: > On Sunday 10 October 2010 15:34:39 Polytropon wrote: > > > The "startkde" command should be fully sufficient, as all other things > > are to be configured inside KDE. > > That may be "/usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde", since /usr/local/kde4/bin probably > won't be in $PATH. For KDE3 (what I use) it is just /usr/local/bin/startkde matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 17:40:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C49A106566B for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:40:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2118A8FC16 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7737FE83BF for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:40:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from core.nessbank (client-86-31-64-159.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.31.64.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:40:46 +0100 (BST) From: Bruce Cran To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:40:45 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/9.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.5.1; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201010101840.45287.bruce@cran.org.uk> Subject: VIA EPIA 5000 and ACPI Cx levels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:40:47 -0000 I recently upgraded to HEAD on my VIA EPIA C3 box, and had thought about trying out the new one-shot timer mode. Reading mav@'s email it seems that since it doesn't have LAPIC or HPET timers it won't work. However I thought I should still get power savings by using higher Cx levels, but setting hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest to C3 I'm only seeing 0.8% time spent in C2 mode, the rest being in C1. The CPU's idle so I don't understand why it's not going into deeper sleep modes. Is this likely to just be an ACPI bug? -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 20:49:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12341106566C for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:49:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8A58FC08 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:49:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy27 with SMTP id 27so1428314ewy.13 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 13:49:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=uRS1jG6DesPy0GwI7qwhiKr/97h733wVesfrxJ/8LNk=; b=LEh7nQGm3bq4Rj7i9ZDtuKX1QbFfdeKgmcZREamqVZcfaJxza7TxIJZ4kjEHu0R98e 0r9YrlFfQaen4kxhpSErxCbwiv8YFnfZeacTffHjSHfKxjvSLl3zOVy5oI5j+Ch33ru0 14l/wtYAIJIsr2sTcqoGYRXdvZj7Y+oUcMiCg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=MY+C5fLCtiUOXLoRp3zp1C64wl4cNrA672RUGleZJsvOrPmLS3wmjzoNeyh0SsP3V8 65ijz0x4x93l+v/IIMWaQJdG0olT6nP8Z4qq4SWJ/yUdq7D1UCI1ph7joHPYs/PQ6Zax txvEklQ9fU7URRK5vZ36/kNh7DivYfgydjb7s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.104.132 with SMTP id p4mr834497ebo.8.1286743770967; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 13:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.47.14 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 13:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:49:30 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Bruce Cran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: VIA EPIA 5000 and ACPI Cx levels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:49:33 -0000 >I recently upgraded to HEAD on my VIA EPIA C3 box, and had thought about >trying out the new one-shot timer mode. Reading mav@'s email it seems that >since it doesn't have LAPIC or HPET timers it won't work. However I thought I >should still get power savings by using higher Cx levels, but setting >hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest to C3 I'm only seeing 0.8% time spent in C2 mode, the >rest being in C1. The CPU's idle so I don't understand why it's not going into >deeper sleep modes. Is this likely to just be an ACPI bug? If it has an i8254, that can also be used in one-shot mode if hint.attimer.0.timecounter=0 is used, since r212778. But for low values of kern.hz, I've found that periodic mode can result in fewer interrupts (albeit increased latencies and lower accuracy in accounting) than one-shot mode, if kern.eventtimer.singlemul=1. As for the power-saving states, are you using a simple 'sysctl dev.cpu.0.cx_usage' to find the percentages? If you're doing something more involved, you may be affecting the measurements. Also, does the system think that the deeper sleep states are available on your machine? If so, what are their latencies? If they are high, they may be used less often, or not at all. Did you follow some of the other recommendations to allow more sleeping, like at: http://wiki.freebsd.org/TuningPowerConsumption ? Or apply mav's extra patch to further reduce interrupts: http://people.freebsd.org/~mav/tm6292_idle.patch ? b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 21:09:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3CCF106566C for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 21:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A1A8FC12 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 21:09:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy27 with SMTP id 27so1432410ewy.13 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:09:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=pbHaapNR1NvjYZpjZ77Pg/leT4yXxiCawd/VLo/UrkI=; b=G1x2gWzmGlRl4HfuE7onlZdT99iL3uCU0QppOsbPQBRSI7FlnChLT2Tmlkw7wMxQkY Git9AU9pSqnIQX+DOF5qufM3PecvtVku3sLC2hZlblsdtieRz3ki2WUqPwv2X4rsonQP dJQlb4x8sjFnRC/phkhctPz3SOocMjJxp5imQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=Kau7VStyeclBIl0swM03le62r64ui/ssExDbpPvPT6VrZOIJ4zQzzl3DI7xWKQDJMZ 2cy1OfUEjz3Yy3yxqrchN39zUpUlbqfWOZBPOh/RAictDfMIQRqhJB5mEXpUDpOzc+NE vzgH2X7HIKvijPD3tbZ9lcMSma8UV9PIuInWk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.119.7 with SMTP id m7mr2946807eeh.43.1286744991146; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.47.14 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 21:09:51 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: =?KOI8-R?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: How to obtain which interrupts cause system to hang? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 21:09:52 -0000 > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU COMMAND > 11 root 1 171 ki31 0K 16K RUN 24.9H 86.47% idle: cpu0 > 14 root 1 -44 - 0K 16K WAIT 689:52 10.25% swi1: net > 2 root 1 -68 - 0K 16K sleep 207:35 4.69% ng_queue0 > 40 root 1 -68 - 0K 16K - 101:37 1.46% dummynet It looks like there's a bit going on here: you're using dummynet and netgraph, too? If this setup is unstable, or otherwise problematic, I'd suggest asking on the freebsd-net mailing list. I don't have much experience with some of these utilities, and I've haven't been running FreeBSD 7-* for a long time, so I've lost track of what problems have been fixed and back-ported. You may also want to look at your network and polling MIB and debugging variables, to see if they indicate any problems. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 21:28:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4988C106566B for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 21:28:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8DFF8FC0A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 21:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0626CE83BF; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 22:28:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from core.nessbank (client-86-31-64-159.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.31.64.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 22:28:34 +0100 (BST) From: Bruce Cran To: bf1783@gmail.com Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 22:28:33 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/9.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.5.1; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201010102228.33095.bruce@cran.org.uk> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VIA EPIA 5000 and ACPI Cx levels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 21:28:36 -0000 On Sunday 10 October 2010 21:49:30 b. f. wrote: > If it has an i8254, that can also be used in one-shot mode if > hint.attimer.0.timecounter=0 is used, since r212778. Thanks, I didn't know about that. After enabling it things are quite different: kern.eventtimer.periodic is now 1, and setting hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest=C2 results in 100% time being reported as being spent in C2 mode according to dev.cpu.0.cx_usage - using C3 causes the system to hang. Shouldn't a fully loaded CPU spent more time in C1 state though? When I run a program that results in 0% idle time cx_usage still reports that no time was spent in C1 state. > But for low > values of kern.hz, I've found that periodic mode can result in fewer > interrupts (albeit increased latencies and lower accuracy in > accounting) than one-shot mode, if kern.eventtimer.singlemul=1. As > for the power-saving states, are you using a simple 'sysctl > dev.cpu.0.cx_usage' to find the percentages? If you're doing > something more involved, you may be affecting the measurements. Also, > does the system think that the deeper sleep states are available on > your machine? If so, what are their latencies? If they are high, > they may be used less often, or not at all. I'm just using dev.cpu.0.cx_usage to check the Cx level usage. According to dev.cpu.0.cx_supported, I have: C1/0, C2/90, C3/900 > Did you follow some of > the other recommendations to allow more sleeping, like at: > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/TuningPowerConsumption I haven't done anything extra yet, since I was mainly interested in seeing if one-shot mode worked on this box. I can't use powerd because running at 266MHz (I only have 533 and 266 available) results in too much of a slowdown. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 21:45:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0D01065673 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 21:45:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dart@spiderchain.com) Received: from spiderchain.com (spiderchain.com [209.209.39.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3C58FC12 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 21:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4CB2302E.4010109@spiderchain.com> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:29:18 -0700 From: Eli Dart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: After upgrade, no /dev entries created for USB hard disk slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 21:45:04 -0000 Hello all, Since upgrading from 7.2-p5 to 8.1-p1, I'm unable to mount one particular external USB hard disk (Seagate FreeAgent 1.5TB disk). /dev/da0 and /dev/da0a get created, but /dev/da0s1 and /dev/da0s1a do not get created. The label is on da0s1 and the filesystem is on da0s1a. Another machine running 7.0-STABLE still sees the disk properly (i.e. /dev entries for the slices get created, filesystem can be mounted, data appears to be there). So, the disk doesn't appear to have been corrupted. A different Seagate FreeAgent USB disk (1TB, not 1.5TB) is seen properly by the host running 8.1-p1. fdisk output on both FreeBSD 7 and FreeBSD 8 show the same thing. The cylinder numbers look a bit odd, but the disk works fine under FreeBSD 7...is FreeBSD 8 just more particular? I think I used 'fdisk -I' when I originally set up the disk, rather than doing anything manual. Output of "fdisk /dev/da0" on FreeBSD 8.1-p1: ******* Working on device /dev/da0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=182401 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=182401 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 2930272002 (1430796 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 128/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: Output of "fdisk /dev/da0" on FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE: ******* Working on device /dev/da0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=182401 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=182401 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 2930272002 (1430796 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 128/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: So, the slice is there - FreeBSD 8 just can't find it. Oh, and 'camcontrol reset 0' produces the following output: "Reset of bus 0 returned error 0x3a" Many thanks for any help - I'm stumped.... --eli From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 03:26:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFA1106564A for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 03:26:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C088FC12 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 03:26:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 823FBE81090; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:26:45 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Subject: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 03:26:49 -0000 I'm lost. Aday ago when I rebooted my old Dell, the mouse wouldn't work. A hour ago I got X booting on my server, but the same thing: no mouse. I see the cursor, but it is frozen. The only place my mouse works is on my linux system. The KVM connections seem soild; the only problem is the mouse. The brand is "Logitech" but it is a PS/2 mouse. I have tried the sysinstall utility; nothing. Would completely rebuilding the kernels and worlds do any good? Any other ideas? gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 04:27:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123A41065670 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 04:27:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304298FC12 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 04:27:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o9B4RcMs025553; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:27:38 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:27:37 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: kes-kes@yandex.ru In-Reply-To: <632460655.20101010192705@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <20101011144425.Y2036@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20101009204915.0360410656F1@hub.freebsd.org> <20101010161330.R2036@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1076883893.20101010105041@yandex.ru> <20101010194711.Y2036@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <632460655.20101010192705@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[3]: How to obtain which interrupts cause system to hang? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 04:27:44 -0000 On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 19:27:05 +0300, kes-kes@yandex.ru wrote: > Hi, Ian. Hi Eugen, > >> >> 23.1%Sys 50.8%Intr 1.3%User 0.0%Nice 24.8%Idle %ozfod 1999 cpu0: time > >> >> | | | | | | | | | | | daefr > >> >> ============+++++++++++++++++++++++++> 6 prcfr > >> > >> IS> Yes, system and esp. interrupt time is heavy .. 23k context switches!? [..] > >> IS> Disable p4tcc if it's a modern CPU; that usually hurts more than helps. > >> IS> Disable polling if you're using that .. you haven't provided much info, > >> IS> like is this with any network load, despite nfe0 showing no interrupts? > > >> Polling is ON. Traffice is about 60Mbit/s routed from nfe0 to vlan4 on rl0 > >> when interrupts are happen traffic slow down to 25-30Mbit/s. > > IS> Out of my depth. If it's a net problem - maybe not - you may do better > IS> in freebsd-net@ if you provide enough information (dmesg plus ifconfig, > IS> vmstat -i etc, normally and while this problem is happening). [..] > >> >> How to obtain what nasty happen, which process take 36-50% of CPU > >> >> resource? > >> > >> IS> Try 'top -S'. It's almost certainly system process[es], not shown above. > > IS> Does that not show anything? Also, something like 'ps auxww | less' > IS> should show you what's using all that CPU. I'm out of wild clues. > > vpn_shadow# top -S > last pid: 57879; load averages: 0.12, 0.06, 0.05 up 1+18:37:39 19:19:14 Ok, this was taken when things were't so busy as the earlier 36-50% .. > 101 processes: 2 running, 83 sleeping, 16 waiting > CPU: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 14.3% system, 17.3% interrupt, 68.4% idle > Mem: 319M Active, 799M Inact, 354M Wired, 336K Cache, 213M Buf, 503M Free > Swap: 4063M Total, 4063M Free > > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU COMMAND > 11 root 1 171 ki31 0K 16K RUN 24.9H 86.47% idle: cpu0 > 14 root 1 -44 - 0K 16K WAIT 689:52 10.25% swi1: net > 2 root 1 -68 - 0K 16K sleep 207:35 4.69% ng_queue0 > 40 root 1 -68 - 0K 16K - 101:37 1.46% dummynet .. but still if you add up the TIMEs above here it comes to about 41.5 hours, all but about half an hour of your total uptime, most of which is consumed by the next three below, so swi1 and ng_queue look like what's using most CPU long-term. > 47 root 1 20 - 0K 16K syncer 5:29 0.29% syncer > 12 root 1 -32 - 0K 16K WAIT 14:48 0.00% swi4: clock sio > 15 root 1 -16 - 0K 16K - 5:39 0.00% yarrow > 986 root 1 44 0 5692K 1408K select 1:29 0.00% syslogd > 1054 bind 4 4 0 138M 113M kqread 1:22 0.00% named > 1162 clamav 1 4 0 4616K 1468K accept 0:59 0.00% smtp-gated Smells net-related to me, maybe polling, but like I said, I'm out of my depth. You should have enough info to take to freebsd-net@ anyway. cheers, Ian PS: I still think you should take the time to close PR kern/129103 :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 07:04:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F33B1065670 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:04:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from spock-ext.obspm.fr (spock-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283738FC0A for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:04:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from obspm.fr (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by spock-ext.obspm.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/DIO Observatoire de Paris - 15/04/10) with ESMTP id o9B6opcO006808 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:50:52 +0200 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:50:51 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101011065051.GA85545@obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.4 (spock-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.20]); Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:50:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.3 at spock-ext.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Low sound X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:04:59 -0000 Hi all. I've very strange problem with FreeBSD 8-stable since....one year (yes it's not a urgent problem....;-) ). I've a desktop PC, two laptops (two dell). On those 3 computers the sounds is working. But on all the sound level is very low. When I use mplayer event I push the level to maximum I almost ear the sound. But when I reboot on windows on the same computer the sound level is very loud. Any advise ? Regards. JAS -- Albert SHIH DIO batiment 15 Observatoire de Paris Meudon 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Téléphone : 01 45 07 76 26/06 86 69 95 71 Heure local/Local time: lun 11 oct 2010 08:50:44 CEST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 07:43:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E482106566B for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:43:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7B48FC18 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz16 with SMTP id 16so552336bwz.13 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 00:43:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VD2oKCcjCi+oREAtfFzrEVqd5i8qGHwcu0C3hNTFNP8=; b=L+azVEWEcJpeVZ6ugY20OkgAU6o8rOIivyYg0mEFAKl2xoqRYVvXPMkTEUQMf8KIVY xOTWYuBTomcqIfwOrb+LdyurPo3r9z3UkF/RNGlT4fwXlOvN0S1+FY98CFxLdUxQe1yF TkvounZVJoaYj3e0ZLmI42ROdrSyjoMgn7ZwU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rdLQTyL3s8OceLmCqPSx7HnCvgL+3us5WT0dUeZXPaOB4gpFmNFv8dSGZzmhIOuVbj vUGMGgMX+XrWevtzZkyq1K0oZwtUnd8W1UHiMK5M6f5gmoGBDa7M/JbytTyVmnLth459 iON7iAdIUw9pyI8RtcSRa1EH8guArz0MGAGO0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.27.20 with SMTP id g20mr4813250bkc.114.1286783011635; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 00:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.148.82 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 00:43:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101011065051.GA85545@obspm.fr> References: <20101011065051.GA85545@obspm.fr> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:43:31 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: Albert Shih Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Low sound X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:43:33 -0000 On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Albert Shih wrote: > Hi all. > > I've very strange problem with FreeBSD 8-stable since....one year (yes it= 's > not a urgent problem....;-) ). > > I've a desktop PC, two laptops (two dell). On those 3 computers the sound= s > is working. But on all the sound level is very low. When I use mplayer > event I push the level to maximum I almost ear the sound. But when I rebo= ot > on windows on the same computer the sound level is very loud. > > > Any advise ? What's the output of the 'mixer' command? > > Regards. > > JAS > -- > Albert SHIH > DIO batiment 15 > Observatoire de Paris Meudon > 5 Place Jules Janssen > 92195 Meudon Cedex > T=E9l=E9phone : 01 45 07 76 26/06 86 69 95 71 > Heure local/Local time: > lun 11 oct 2010 08:50:44 CEST > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 07:50:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A74106566B for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:50:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from spock-ext.obspm.fr (spock-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D67C8FC1A for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:50:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from obspm.fr (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by spock-ext.obspm.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/DIO Observatoire de Paris - 15/04/10) with ESMTP id o9B7ogmF031059 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:50:43 +0200 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:50:42 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: Fernando =?iso-8859-1?Q?Apestegu=EDa?= Message-ID: <20101011075042.GD85545@obspm.fr> References: <20101011065051.GA85545@obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.4 (spock-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.20]); Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:50:43 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.3 at spock-ext.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Low sound X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:50:44 -0000 Le 11/10/2010 à 09:43:31+0200, Fernando Apesteguía a écrit > On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Albert Shih wrote: > > Hi all. > > > > I've very strange problem with FreeBSD 8-stable since....one year (yes it's > > not a urgent problem....;-) ). > > > > I've a desktop PC, two laptops (two dell). On those 3 computers the sounds > > is working. But on all the sound level is very low. When I use mplayer > > event I push the level to maximum I almost ear the sound. But when I reboot > > on windows on the same computer the sound level is very loud. > > > > > > Any advise ? > > What's the output of the 'mixer' command? I don't known this command (sorry....I just known vi and mutt ;-) ). So yes the mixer output tell me the pcm level is very low. After reading the man I put the mixer pcm to 75:75 and everything come to normal. thanks you very much. Regards. -- Albert SHIH DIO batiment 15 Observatoire de Paris Meudon 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Téléphone : 01 45 07 76 26/06 86 69 95 71 Heure local/Local time: lun 11 oct 2010 09:45:50 CEST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 08:43:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFDD4106566B for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:43:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from four.harrisons@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471BC8FC15 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz16 with SMTP id 16so575499bwz.13 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 01:43:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6J76WLCp72Xe6EmT9o4+JAqgWZkEZvD83D98pRsPkDE=; b=xdxe70HhKMBorNkkQO1GcdS2+TFBTdEM+CfoSHZo4JjEXqJlkJ5WgvJXlEA0iRxos2 9DB9mnf6KPg9Jr3ja2lBMF2LJYzwmwFCd4NURxURFBdk1tHQSm19IS8LhZIkuWLSvlFA aX8sglu/o88DAqUeqPywZdQA9pf08hl4n2zcI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:subject:from:to:cc:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=NDdddFiV1M4EnW9K9EVCW0/MvqTnDDW5hOYHIRq63xaCpveTHrYUVxFVHSzASdg6Ie mNGXaTUYGszvEWCKhcwClpPOb4y3HOxVoRx0Jc68++qKgfBzHq01y90jVkhB+zAYEL7k mK+0oCzVvgfkOVEN686f03orNlRqtLMWa1+0Y= Received: by 10.204.126.5 with SMTP id a5mr400039bks.177.1286786582461; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 01:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ecs ([213.8.162.222]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g8sm555673bkg.11.2010.10.11.01.42.59 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 11 Oct 2010 01:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4cb2ce15.4808cc0a.019a.13fb@mx.google.com> From: four.harrisons@googlemail.com To: kes-kes@yandex.ru Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:40:14 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: How to obtain which interrupts cause system to hang? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:43:04 -0000 On Sun, 10 Oct 2010, ??????? ??????? wrote:=0D=0A > >> #systat -v=0D=0A = > >> 1 users Load 0.74 0.71 0.55 Oct 9 19:53= =0D=0A > IS> [..]=0D=0A > >> Proc: = Interrupts=0D=0A > >> r p d s w Csw T= rp Sys Int Sof Flt 24 cow 2008 total=0D=0A > >> 2 3 = 39 23k 67 563 9 1710 47 15 zfod 9 ata0 irq14=0D=0A= > >> ozfod = nfe0 irq23=0D=0A > >> 23.1%Sys 50.8%Intr 1.3%User 0.0%Nice 24.8%I= dle %ozfod 1999 cpu0: time=0D=0A > >> | | | | | |= | | | | | daefr=0D=0A > >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D+++++++++++++++++++++++++> 6 prcfr=0D=0A >=20= =0D=0A > IS> Yes, system and esp. interrupt time is heavy .. 23k context = switches!?=0D=0A >=20=0D=0A > IS> In addition to b. f.'s good advice .. a= s you later said, 2000 Hz slicing=0D=0A > IS> _should_ be ok, unless a sl= ow CPU? Or perhaps a fast CPU throttled back=0D=0A > IS> too far .. powe= rd? Check sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq while this is happening.=0D=0A >=20=0D=0A= > IS> Disable p4tcc if it's a modern CPU; that usually hurts more than h= elps.=0D=0A > IS> Disable polling if you're using that .. you haven't pro= vided much info,=0D=0A > IS> like is this with any network load, despite = nfe0 showing no interrupts?=0D=0A=0D=0A > Polling is ON. Traffice is abou= t 60Mbit/s routed from nfe0 to vlan4 on rl0=0D=0A > when interrupts are h= appen traffic slow down to 25-30Mbit/s.=0D=0A=0D=0AOut of my depth. If i= t's a net problem - maybe not - you may do better=20=0D=0Ain freebsd-net@= if you provide enough information (dmesg plus ifconfig,=20=0D=0Avmstat -= i etc, normally and while this problem is happening).=0D=0A=0D=0A > There= is no p4tcc option in KERNEL config file.=0D=0A=0D=0ANo, it can be enabl= ed by cpufreq(4). See dmesg for acpi_throttle or=20=0D=0Ap4tcc, but it l= ooks like you might not have device cpufreq in your=20=0D=0Akernel or loa= ded, or dev.cpu.0.freq and more would have shown below.=0D=0A=0D=0A > dis= able/enable polling does not help. situation still same.=0D=0A=0D=0A > sy= sctl -a | grep freq=0D=0A > kern.acct_chkfreq: 15=0D=0A > kern.timecounte= r.tc.i8254.frequency: 1193182=0D=0A > kern.timecounter.tc.ACPI-fast.frequ= ency: 3579545=0D=0A > kern.timecounter.tc.TSC.frequency: 1809280975=0D=0A= > net.inet.sctp.sack_freq: 2=0D=0A > debug.cpufreq.verbose: 0=0D=0A > de= bug.cpufreq.lowest: 0=0D=0A > machdep.acpi_timer_freq: 3579545=0D=0A > ma= chdep.tsc_freq: 1809280975=0D=0A > machdep.i8254_freq: 1193182=0D=0A=0D=0A= Only useful for what it doesn't show :)=0D=0A=0D=0A > >> How to obtain w= hat nasty happen, which process take 36-50% of CPU=0D=0A > >> resource?=0D= =0A >=20=0D=0A > IS> Try 'top -S'. It's almost certainly system process[e= s], not shown above.=0D=0A=0D=0ADoes that not show anything? Also, somet= hing like 'ps auxww | less'=20=0D=0Ashould show you what's using all that= CPU. I'm out of wild clues.=0D=0A=0D=0Acheers, Ian=0D=0A_______________= ________________________________=0D=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org maili= ng list=0D=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0D= =0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebs= d.org"=0D=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 08:43:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FEAD1065674 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:43:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from four.harrisons@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9042A8FC16 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:43:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bw0-f54.google.com with SMTP id 16so575499bwz.13 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 01:43:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kR+bfFX9SejH1JVsUqwpNPNGYMD6a2vc6lmkntlUaWk=; b=M2/+2hlJyawlcsMRPsEurS3zyPav9LCmAP135S8e/74sUwmQ1w+s75YYI7pCNO/CDl T0Y3G35VVjPZu724XW78ypQFZVniS/SK3A1E2nBJaaiKooxGE5iixpJ6Mcak8FzdmDr+ EPChG6H+jLWTUPLp27Xa2stOnt81pdWFqyyZ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:subject:from:to:cc:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=nsHPpVFHNOQnjFjDrAoPl2xxIRWwZvCpI91TjPhKi2J4FbtXaffG0SEfM9QIwjztSp ikDiZFZG1zMHm+viXjZcbaeJN/KMU1l0R3OJ+RENvf4EQ7f8r7BuQ1WbVP9PsSb6jrvZ kI3LMkOT0Vyrv3jrk+F54fi3izllAjkh7lgdc= Received: by 10.204.103.16 with SMTP id i16mr4348266bko.98.1286786586757; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 01:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ecs ([213.8.162.222]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p34sm3166814bkf.15.2010.10.11.01.43.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 11 Oct 2010 01:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4cb2ce19.2230cc0a.3a8b.6725@mx.google.com> From: four.harrisons@googlemail.com To: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:35:35 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: caleb.stein@me.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd@qeng-ho.org Subject: Re: Clean up / filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:43:08 -0000 On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Mike Clarke=0D=0A wrote:=0D=0A> On Saturday 09 October 2010, Arthur Chance wrote:=0D= =0A>=0D=0A>> Not if running an X desktop, as all sorts of things get stuc= k in /tmp=0D=0A>> that are needed. In single user mode it should be safe,= and it=0D=0A>> probably is when simply running on the console.=0D=0A>>=0D= =0A>> As a long term solution, if you wish to clear /tmp every reboot add= =0D=0A>> clear_tmp_enable=3D"YES"=C2=A0=C2=A0# Clear /tmp at startup.=0D= =0A>> to your /etc/rc.conf=0D=0A>=0D=0A=0D=0AYou may also want to conside= r changing /tmp to be a TMPFS file system=0D=0A=0D=0Aadd the line=0D=0Atm= pfs=09=09/tmp=09tmpfs=09rw,mode=3D01777=090=090=0D=0A=0D=0Ato /etc/fstab = (and remove any other /tmp lines).=0D=0A=0D=0AA warning will come saying = that it is highly experimental - but I've=0D=0Abeen running with it for a= while now without any issues.=0D=0A=0D=0A--=20=0D=0AEitan Adler=0D=0A___= ____________________________________________=0D=0Afreebsd-questions@freeb= sd.org mailing list=0D=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebs= d-questions=0D=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsu= bscribe@freebsd.org"=0D=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 08:43:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933411065697 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:43:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cybernautape@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556158FC17 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:43:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so4291417iwn.13 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 01:43:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kfoBwYAulKJLvx7vzFRX4w4k8pLywPDTWZXtDzKZLko=; b=N9Xwgo5L4GObkEwbyDEpq/C17hfcbypzOCfcKZ8l/LtFVkhkOiRG47rqWNqRWWWFrw 1m6lVoBBXbaepZHz+r1azQJ+dQ4OC0sItn/YTPmCsDfRspfkk5IfciEKvgvElGG/qD3g kOXc2PgKLG0g1d6DoGUfHdqdK3e0hIXK+29/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gFE+NAwhqzgeDZsXytloSoz829O/ZrRVLyaAj5ec+9tR5x+6pmVvGT+vJB/4JcnnPE T/d3mfAnWJSgPvQkZ68r/xpe/Tub2kcO64H+U6Jb35jmY0fQUUzWZleE4lwIp1pkfe4i /QrDU3ct16pwPeVF8QimijuTf/pBg4KS9PzOs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.10.200 with SMTP id q8mr4493359ibq.83.1286786604699; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 01:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.150.142 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 01:43:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <864ocuqtj0.fsf@betla.home> References: <864ocuqtj0.fsf@betla.home> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 03:43:24 -0500 Message-ID: From: Edgar Rodolfo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: help me, i can't start graphical interface in freeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:43:25 -0000 i did that, but it don't work, i am going to try it again..., dbus_enable=3D"YES", hald_enable=3D"YES", is it necesary? Handbook say that for gnome use gdm_enable=3D"Yes", or gdm_enable=3D"YES" a /etc/rc.conf or echo "/usr/local/bin/gnome-session" > ~/.xinitrc i tried it, but don't work, i think taht i was wrong when i was doing the installing, i will check it again, :) 2010/10/10 Byung-Hee HWANG > Edgar Rodolfo writes: > > > [...] > > :), but i don't kown whith gnome, i am reading handbook, it help me :), > > [...] > > That is easy. Just add in /etc/rc.conf as following: > > gnome_enable=3D"YES" > > That's all. > > Sincerely, > > -- > =EC=86=8C=EC=97=AC=EB=AC=BC =ED=99=A9=EB=B3=91=ED=9D=AC(=E9=BB=83=E7=82= =B3=E7=86=99) | .. =EC=B6=9C=ED=95=AD 15=EB=B6=84=EC=A0=84.. > > "There's no way of stopping our people from going into that business." > -- Frank Falcone, "Chapter 20", page 287 > --=20 =E2=96=81 =E2=96=82 =E2=96=83 =E2=96=84 =E2=96=85 =E2=96=86 =E2=96=87 =E2= =96=88 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 09:31:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70231065670 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:31:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpagnoni@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656078FC14 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:31:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so4344900iwn.13 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 02:31:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Eonxz2HC5YJIn+6w1/C2Zu9qwhIpZkJ99k4MQlLi9WU=; b=PD6it+5xzsiHYt6rBWhbd/yP7FRTRVJE+m3Uye+vBSDmhVLJvNi6kZJGub3kToQ89s Nqv+5IdemUaZJrND6h25pt3O5tpfxNzjdFlSiky8i1iKdWfcou/9CHdlIIqj0Ty8l3RY 5eGK6z4jyh+5knj5+hwX5MldM/Um1druiIldc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=lPFsnMk4I+1FZtGe3d6BJfrXrkURfJP7ZdcET1SdFRq1XvnS+t4TQLqnibcpM3Ouwn siwFREn8F2juOhW0hJ2zMWwTHqK0jg3FPCN+pdVqV4oA8tZIeOdSrzGTtia/+Vm6GUun Y1VUXkn0tBfe11Z4hPl8xeXlf1DZKAGJbQ7zo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.78.202 with SMTP id o10mr1958601ick.59.1286789505472; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 02:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.147.138 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 02:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:31:45 +0200 Message-ID: From: Giuseppe Pagnoni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Xorg 7.5 and OpenMotif: mouse stuck in box X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:31:47 -0000 Dear all, I am resending this because it seems to me a really critical bug (prevents you from using OpenMotif or lesstif applications), but apparently nothing has been changed since last july. Upgrading xorg to 1.7.7 does fix the problem, but I wonder if this may cause dependency problems in the ports tree. Also, if this is the correct fix, is there a reason why it hasn't been integrated in the ports yet? thanks again giuseppe >>>> I am having a problem with xorg 1.7.5 and OpenMotif resulting in the mouse being stuck in certain areas of the Motif windows that are supposed to open dialog boxes when right-clicked. I noticed that somebody else reported the problem already in this list, and that it seems to have been fixed in xorg 1.7.7. However xorg 1.7.7 is not yet available in the ports tree, nor it looks like a patch is in for the current version (I tried to recompile xorg today after a port tree update). Is manually compiling Xorg the only solution right now? thanks in advance for any advice giuseppe >>>>> -- Giuseppe Pagnoni Dip. Scienze Biomediche Sezione Fisiologia Univ. di Modena e Reggio Emilia Via Campi 287 I-41125 Modena, Italy Tel: +39-059-205-5742 Fax: +39-059-205-5336 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 10:25:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42017106564A; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:25:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phanquochien@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AAE48FC08; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:25:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13so31724wwb.31 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 03:25:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=0lz/HMA3P8GPv30Z5yxs4cMlgIH09CeBj7qyys00NzM=; b=KgSu8afNUYAzQLxC0wFHIaNc+htDEUXVAKidYwaCyVaKx5vl/wdsjmEyN6fSq1Ucsd wScfECAH6BAXPTSJWujwQP2ehP8DNXXsMOc+zN3SyvUElHWLEnGafsAd7yxguaDjpiuA RHlQbbvQwm9vKTEf1BEUj6l+ydFwPTMbDcAqs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=uh1XnrXu+OzDSrwxqGd8KN0828RRf3UuRMblDbKJccS/9pJ0z2JPIovi9hCM+3Pnmo 0F47LYgax8m9KtiztY73ZCGtokP6FseUyDjm7zl7Tp27wwRDzrbLDKtZceaTSot7vfh1 sEzMc2mXah7WFTAQeha8n6UWM7QIfJIkq/+HM= Received: by 10.227.156.210 with SMTP id y18mr5551255wbw.63.1286792737359; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 03:25:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.142.194 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 03:25:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <44y6a93lhd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <1286463446.8004.5.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> <0B26C158-127F-45AD-B2F3-D287F222AB91@cwis.biz> <72172F50-1BC8-42CC-AE55-5BF83CC1867C@cwis.biz> <4A031AD6-9E27-48E0-90F5-D1B6C3A892DF@cwis.biz> <44y6a93lhd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> From: Phan Quoc Hien Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:25:17 +0700 Message-ID: To: Lowell Gilbert Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Craig Butler , Ryan Coleman , ale@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can not install ZendOptimizer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:25:39 -0000 ZendOptimizer seem not support FreeBSD? On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Lowell Gilbert < freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org> wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Ryan Coleman > wrote: > > > >> Phan, > >> > >> The solution looks like install PHP 5.2 (/usr/ports/lang/php52) and then > >> install /usr/ports/devel/ZendOptimizer. > >> > Phan Quoc Hien writes: > > > Yes, Thank Ryan. But it's not clearly solution. > > The reason it is a little unclear is that the port warns you about the > problem, but the warning sounds like all of 5.x is incompatible with > ZendOptimizer (when 5.2 is actually fine). I spent a few minutes > looking at the port, but I couldn't come up with a quick fix for the > error message. > -- Best regards, Mr.Hien E-mail: phanquochien@gmail.com Website: www.mrhien.info From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 10:51:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41689106564A for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:51:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D2E8FC13 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30so113329qyk.13 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 03:51:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.97.141 with SMTP id l13mr4682507qcn.135.1286794298294; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 03:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.96.148 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 03:51:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.60.231] In-Reply-To: <20101005174018.GA2473@pollux.local.net> References: <20100615211740.GA50967@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100615154956.cfz6ip454w8gcco4@mail.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <07A440BE-D29A-44CA-9F2D-16D1314A8B24@mac.com> <20100615161147.j4gokl7rk8sgwssw@mail.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20101005174018.GA2473@pollux.local.net> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:51:32 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: concerning flash under freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:51:39 -0000 On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Harald Weis wrote: > On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 03:04:00PM +0200, C. P. Ghost wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Programmer in Training >> wrote: >> > I will tell Adobe to provide a FreeBSD-native release, though it would be >> > nice to know I won't be the only one. I'm actually going right now to do so. >> >> Good luck with that. Adobe doesn't care about FreeBSD. Never did, >> and probably never will. They don't even care about 64-bit Linux users... >> >> If you absolutely need Flash on FreeBSD, I'd suggest you install >> VirtualBox, and inside VirtualBox a Flash-supported OS, like >> OpenSolaris (that's what I do when I absolutely need Flash support). >> >> It's not the cleanest solution, but at least, I don't have to clutter >> my FreeBSD system with A LOT of Linux dependencies just to >> get a barely working Flash. >> >> -cpghost. > > I followed your advice when I discovered your message. > No problem to install the opensolaris guest and the flash player. > Video seems okay, but there is no sound and I cannot find out why. > Needless to say that audio works fine on the host which is still on > 8.0-RELEASE-p4 for the time being. I can't imagine that this > could be the reason. Yes, I remember there was a sound problem with the last official release of OpenSolaris (2009.06). But this was not related to VirtualBox, it was a configuration issue with OpenSolaris itself. I installed OSS drivers manually in osol, and that fixed the problem for me. I guess that updating or installing a newer snv version would help, even without having to mess around with OSS. The latest snv would thus be snv_147 on OpenIndiana, but I haven't tested it yet: http://openindiana.org/download/ Good luck. ;-) > Thank you in advance for any help. > Harald Weis -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 10:54:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C761065670; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:54:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phanquochien@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0A78FC08; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13so54574wwb.31 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 03:54:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=aBhCd/uSUODziOT0AnB/qU25M2qvyuexSdKjFeXYL5w=; b=B5kDIUU5zN19vvYrrugx9u0/I1bMd490kLQp2UowQ7OwBgKxYXp6pz+6E0eamMtB+4 UUfHFnczk8itfcnvgEJwVFdPFlXgPmtas5cmHjLH0VZJC+dahnQ2Q61qnc1+HxezpzUD q6lHmK+OpCc9L+OdP3oJmVNhOtw6KQKYn10W8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=T/2NQVWyVXNc8FdhRCe4mjVWTaCKySZwsdMkXY6il/R1yWCBudD75Fn6VcNikxAjPE WZ54F/cgqupB6rDEZnLvQxtHA4l66nXNf+HsBnkEfGgj3vtWbXKwmMh839jTJtS8Hb/U 92zeUHmbEz2RJ3btBl2h+WkMjLp5107zwhjN4= Received: by 10.227.147.144 with SMTP id l16mr5597460wbv.45.1286794423795; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 03:53:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.142.194 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 03:53:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1286463446.8004.5.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> <0B26C158-127F-45AD-B2F3-D287F222AB91@cwis.biz> <72172F50-1BC8-42CC-AE55-5BF83CC1867C@cwis.biz> <4A031AD6-9E27-48E0-90F5-D1B6C3A892DF@cwis.biz> <44y6a93lhd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> From: Phan Quoc Hien Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:53:23 +0700 Message-ID: To: David N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ale@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can not install ZendOptimizer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:54:46 -0000 Maybe no solution forever for ZendOptimizer with >=php 5.3 on FreeBSD...so said...!!:( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 10:56:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB489106564A; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:56:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phanquochien@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0F48FC18; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:56:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ww0-f50.google.com with SMTP id 13so54574wwb.31 for ; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ale@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can not install ZendOptimizer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:56:10 -0000 Maybe no solution forever for ZendOptimizer with >=php 5.3 on FreeBSD...so said...!!:( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 10:56:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F1410656A3; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:56:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phanquochien@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4CDD8FC1D; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13so54886wwb.31 for ; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ale@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can not install ZendOptimizer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:56:22 -0000 Maybe no solution forever for ZendOptimizer with >=php 5.3 on FreeBSD...so said...!!:( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 10:57:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2201065670; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phanquochien@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363698FC13; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:56:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13so55517wwb.31 for ; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ale@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can not install ZendOptimizer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:57:54 -0000 Maybe no solution forever for ZendOptimizer with >=php 5.3 on FreeBSD...so said...!!:( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 10:58:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C413106566C; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:58:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phanquochien@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABCAF8FC16; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:57:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13so56088wwb.31 for ; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ale@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can not install ZendOptimizer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:58:36 -0000 Maybe no solution forever for ZendOptimizer with >=php 5.3 on FreeBSD...so said...!!:( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 10:59:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2561065673; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:59:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phanquochien@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378338FC18; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:58:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13so56750wwb.31 for ; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ale@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can not install ZendOptimizer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:59:01 -0000 Maybe no solution forever for ZendOptimizer with >=php 5.3 on FreeBSD...so said...!!:( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 10:59:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5AA10656F1; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:59:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phanquochien@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2510D8FC2D; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ww0-f50.google.com with SMTP id 13so56088wwb.31 for ; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ale@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can not install ZendOptimizer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:59:08 -0000 Maybe no solution forever for ZendOptimizer with >=php 5.3 on FreeBSD...so said...!!:( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 11:26:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A58106566C; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:26:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faust64@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFD08FC1C; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:26:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwe4 with SMTP id 4so1393148qwe.13 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 04:26:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=aJM7NYULMrv9JVIcBDB0nu49Rm2zSd4dTlCf43li0x8=; b=WNHGTnVgRC5XcOusq6TXLLLDDTHU36YdDrpfz3IcgKm90bYJUdpnARIAp1AKxixitQ e/Jpu6wFxnjpCibIsHkHpX1SiJEhSScU+5/F2apheEWwmgjivEXWg7CAZ9Ny1WalSaw8 cjqD4Z3gyyS5OzwvChCfwjpqiw1IeqRHMdv8w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=aUyUdGEbB+lHVAi+4Hrl086OFuNbFYrAxLC2X2741Mwu3dwsTrgGKeGrv6QCi9OOxd aF2qSF89Ta28O8XqRoTvypy0pmPIGkk7GZM6Aw5uTZ9JIsM8pOOMqPTMwzxRd/DsMKJs 3X95X6LOer6Vs9dnUqkwWcVW/DxquQQbP76+E= Received: by 10.229.223.195 with SMTP id il3mr4971937qcb.83.1286796396247; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 04:26:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.10.103 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 04:25:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1286463446.8004.5.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> <0B26C158-127F-45AD-B2F3-D287F222AB91@cwis.biz> <72172F50-1BC8-42CC-AE55-5BF83CC1867C@cwis.biz> <4A031AD6-9E27-48E0-90F5-D1B6C3A892DF@cwis.biz> <44y6a93lhd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_Mart=EDn_Moro?= Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:25:56 +0200 Message-ID: To: Phan Quoc Hien Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: David N , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ale@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can not install ZendOptimizer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:26:40 -0000 http://forums.zend.com/viewtopic.php?f=3D57&t=3D2412 after a while, they released a new version - 64b compliant. but, you still have to use an old PHP version. Since zend seems to only hire retards, ... I modified a few of my scripts, and bought the IonCube encoder, which is working perfectly fine. Regards, On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Phan Quoc Hien wr= ote: > Maybe no solution forever for ZendOptimizer with >=3Dphp 5.3 on FreeBSD..= .so > said...!!:( > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --=20 Samuel Mart=EDn Moro {EPITECH.} tek5 CamTrace S.A.S (+033) 1 41 38 37 60 1 All=E9e de la Venelle 92150 Suresnes FRANCE "Nobody wants to say how this works. Maybe nobody knows ..." Xorg.conf(5) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 13:07:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509A2106564A for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:07:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kennethcf@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C6B8FC0A for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:07:29 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=YvuJKqL1KHU0pX2g8+LM8YRgltFHPe1sx7b0IN2TrRvbCMGsJ93Gd1O0fokNNqEe; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Cc:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.68] (helo=wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1P5Hne-00028r-S6; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:48:18 -0400 Received: from 209.211.146.198 by webmail.c.earthlink.net with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:48:18 -0400 Message-ID: <26077190.1286801298650.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:48:18 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Kenneth Freidank To: Kenneth , Jules Gilbert Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: fa60bc5202b74016ef7f91bc926e004c7e972de0d01da94043a4968619063c02ca06edfa3040061d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.68 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ath atheros 5424/2424 on the CQ60 Presario X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Kenneth Freidank List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:07:30 -0000 I never got the light to turn blue, but it does work. -----Original Message----- >From: Kenneth >Sent: Sep 14, 2009 12:26 AM >To: Jules Gilbert >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: ath atheros 5424/2424 on the CQ60 Presario > >Anyone been able to use the ath driver on an atheros 5424/2424? I have a = Compaq Presario CQ60 and can not get the wireless light to turn blue? > > > > >-----Original Message----- >>From: Jules Gilbert >>Sent: Sep 13, 2009 7:14 PM >>To: Kenneth >>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-x11@freebsd.org, gesbbb@yahoo.= com >>Subject: Re: configuring X on the Presario with the 8200M driver >> >>Thanks, guys! >> >>I intend to set aside some time late this week to try this. I bought >>one but have not been able to configure the X environment yet; I >>notice that PC-BSD comes up fine; I thought of doing that and copying >>the file, but that's about a half day or more of effort that way... >> >>Not good. >> >>Anyway, a couple questions... >> >>Is this likely to be compatible with FBSD 8.0? Or no, and I will just us= e 7.2. >> >>--jg >> >> >>On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 2:12 AM, Kenneth wrote: >>> Moving this discussion to freebsd-x11. >>> >>> I have a Presario CQ60 with the NVIDIA 8200M G, and X is working! >>> >>> Here are the steps to get there. =C2=A0Do everything as root: >>> >>> 1) Update your ports to the most recent. =C2=A0Follow the FreeBSD manua= l, section 4.5 Using the Ports Collection, nuke the contents of /usr/ports,= and install a new base using portsnap or cvsup. >>> >>> 2) Install the nvidia-driver. >>> # cd /usr/ports/x11-driver/nvidia-driver >>> # make install clean =C2=A0(I built with options FREEBSD_AGP checked, A= CPI checked, LINUX unchecked). >>> >>> 3) You can install 2 more optional tools for configuring the nvidia car= d settings. =C2=A0I have not used them, but I installed them. >>> # cd /usr/ports/x11-driver/nvidia-settings >>> # make install clean >>> # cd /usr/ports/x11-driver/nvidia-xconfig >>> # make install clean >>> >>> 4) I also installed the fbdev driver from X.Org. >>> # cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev >>> # make install clean >>> >>> 5) Add the nvidia driver as a dynamically loaded kernel module. >>> # cd /boot >>> # vi loader.conf =C2=A0(you better know how to use vi to edit) >>> --- add the line nvidia_load=3D"YES" >>> --- it is the only line I have in my loader.conf file >>> >>> 6) Reboot the system >>> # reboot >>> >>> 7) If you want to see the version you just installed (your versions may= be newer than mine below)... >>> # pkg_info | grep nvidia >>> nvidia-driver-185.18.29 >>> nvidia-settings-190.32 >>> nvidia-xconfig-190.32 >>> # pkg_info | grep fbdev >>> xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.0_2 >>> >>> 8) Generate your xorg.conf.new file. >>> # cd /root >>> # Xorg -configure >>> >>> 9) Edit the xorg.conf.new file. >>> # vi xorg.conf.new >>> --- change the line =C2=A0 =C2=A0Driver "nv" >>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to read =C2=A0 =C2=A0Driver "n= vidia" >>> >>> 10) Test the config file. >>> # Xorg -config xorg.conf -retro >>> --- you should get a grey screen and your mouse should work, especially= if your mouse worked when installing FreeBSD >>> --- to kill the test, press CTRL-ALT-BKSP >>> >>> 11) If everything worked, move and rename (drop the new extension) the = config file to the /etc directory >>> # mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf >>> >>> 12) Test again. =C2=A0Log in as another user belonging to the wheel gro= up (or login as root). >>> % startx >>> --- you should get 3 green windows >>> --- you can kill X by clicking on the large window on the left, and typ= ing exit >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 13:57:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6EF106566C; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:57:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from services.syscare.sk (services.syscare.sk [188.40.39.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455158FC08; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from services.syscare.sk (services [188.40.39.36]) by services.syscare.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA894D771; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:57:55 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rulez.sk Received: from services.syscare.sk ([188.40.39.36]) by services.syscare.sk (services.rulez.sk [188.40.39.36]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qWenzp4tdYIi; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:57:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from danger-mbp.local (adsl-dyn172.78-99-31.t-com.sk [78.99.31.172]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: danger@rulez.sk) by services.syscare.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 544E24D756; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:57:52 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4CB317DF.5040501@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:57:51 +0200 From: Daniel Gerzo Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12pre) Gecko/20101010 Lanikai/3.1.6pre MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Fwd: HEADSUP: Call for FreeBSD Status Reports - 3Q/2010 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:57:56 -0000 Hello, this is a reminder to anyone who's planning on sending a status report to us. The submission deadline is 15th Sept 2010. I know that many of you guys have spent last few days in Karlsruhe (and I hope to receive some additional reports covering the EuroBSDCon/DevSummit events), so that I understand that the reports might still be on their way. I just wanted to note, that to this date we have received only 5 entries. Please, if you are planning to send your entry, let us know so we can at least count with you and poke you if we don't receive it soon :) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: HEADSUP: Call for FreeBSD Status Reports - 3Q/2010 Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 08:29:48 +0200 From: Daniel Gerzo Organization: The FreeBSD Project To: current@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Dear all, I would like to remind you that the next round of status reports covering the third quarter of 2010 is due on October 15th, 2010. This initiative is very welcome in our community. Therefore, I would like to ask you to submit your status reports soon, so that we can compile the report on time. Do not hesitate and write us a few lines - a short description about what you are working on, what are your plans and goals, so we can inform our community about your great work! Check out the reports from the past to get some inspiration of what your submission should look like. If you know about a project that should be included in the status report, please let us know as well, so we can poke the responsible people to provide us with something useful. Updates to submissions from the last report are welcome too. Note that the submissions are accepted from anyone involved with the FreeBSD community, you do not have to be a FreeBSD committer. Submissions about anything related to FreeBSD are very welcome! Please email us the filled-in XML template which can be found at http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-sample.xml to monthly@FreeBSD.org, or alternatively use our web based form located at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/monthly.cgi. For more information, please visit http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/. We are looking forward to see your submissions! -- S pozdravom / Best regards Daniel Gerzo, FreeBSD committer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 14:25:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4191065673; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from iamlegend.mr.itd.umich.edu (iamlegend.mr.itd.umich.edu [141.211.14.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1C88FC14; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:25:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: FROM tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.12.86]) By iamlegend.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4CB31A26.4E1DF.32384 ; 11 Oct 2010 10:07:34 EDT Received: FROM itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu (itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu [141.213.135.249]) By tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4CB31A24.560B9.20277 ; Authuser web; 11 Oct 2010 10:07:32 EDT Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:07:30 -0400 From: William Bulley To: Giuseppe Pagnoni Message-ID: <20101011140730.GA81063@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Giuseppe Pagnoni , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg 7.5 and OpenMotif: mouse stuck in box X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:25:52 -0000 Giuseppe Pagnoni wrote: > > I am resending this because it seems to me a really critical bug > (prevents you from using OpenMotif or lesstif applications), but > apparently nothing has been changed since last july. Upgrading xorg > to 1.7.7 does fix the problem, but I wonder if this may cause > dependency problems in the ports tree. Also, if this is the correct > fix, is there a reason why it hasn't been integrated in the ports yet? > > thanks again > > giuseppe > > >>>> > I am having a problem with xorg 1.7.5 and OpenMotif resulting in the > mouse being stuck in certain areas of the Motif windows that are > supposed to open dialog boxes when right-clicked. I noticed that > somebody else reported the problem already in this list, and that it > seems to have been fixed in xorg 1.7.7. However xorg 1.7.7 is not yet > available in the ports tree, nor it looks like a patch is in for the > current version (I tried to recompile xorg today after a port tree > update). Is manually compiling Xorg the only solution right now? > > thanks in advance for any advice > > giuseppe > > >>>>> This is what I found recently. Hope this helps you. ----- Forwarded message from William Bulley ----- To: FreeBSD Questions From: William Bulley Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 11:31:15 -0400 Subject: SOLVED: serious (for me) Xorg 7.5 mouse/kbd problem in 8.1-STABLE Cc: x11@freebsd.org, steve@freebsd.org See below for details of solution. ----- Forwarded message from William Bulley ----- To: FreeBSD Questions From: William Bulley Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:38:34 -0400 Subject: serious (for me) Xorg 7.5 mouse/kbd problem in 8.1-STABLE For years I have run Open-Motif on FreeBSD without issue. I use a USB keyboard and a USB three button mouse attached to a Dell Optiplex 960. This combination has worked fine for the past year. This week I upgraded from 8.0-STABLE circa January 2010 to 8.1-STABLE. I do this by doing a buildworld/installworld sequence after csup-ing stable-supfile and rebooting. In this case I also pkg_deleted all of my ports and am rebuilding them from source. Building Xorg is one of the very first ports I attempt since I prefer to work in xterms not virtual terminals. This upgrade moved me from Xorg 7.3 to Xorg 7.5, but Open-Motif stayed the same - open-motif-2.2.3_6 - it hasn't changed in years. After building Xorg, as root, I ran the "Xorg -configure" command to generate my xorg.conf.new file. Since a working /etc/X11/xorg.conf file was still around after the upgrade from 8.0-STABLE/Xorg 7.3, I felt no need to change anything in that file (later file comparisons confirmed that nothing had changed). My only relevant additions to /etc/X11/xorg.conf are these: Section "ServerFlags" Option "AutoAddDevices" "off" Option "DontZap" "false" EndSection In my /etc/rc.conf file I have dbus and hald enabled, and that has not changed since the beginning of 2010 after the confusion abated. As a normal user, I start Xorg using /usr/local/bin/xinit as always. I have several xterms configured in my ~/.xinitrc file. All those came up in the correct location and state. I was able to open those that started in iconic mode. In an open/raised xterm I could enter carriage returns and see my shell prompt move down the window. But when I tried to close/minimize an open/raised xterm, things failed. I use the following keyboard/mouse combination (configured in my .mwmrc file) to close (minimize) an xterm (and other applications): Shift window f.minimize This is also unchanged for some years. This particular setting has no bearing on the problem I came across yesterday. I merely state it for the record. However, this configuration triggers the "bug". The problem is as soon as I use that Shift/Btn3Click combination, my arrow cursor disappears, then I cannot move to or select other xterms - I am frozen, or locked, into the xterm I was trying to close/minimize. All I can do at this point is to kill(1) the /usr/local/bin/xinit command to return to the virtual terminal where I launched my Xorg session. I am now reluctantly using the good old /usr/local/bin/twm which is always built when Xorg is built from source. I am at a loss as to what to look for next. I suspect Xorg, or the keyboard and mouse driver, not the video driver, that came with. It might be a problem with hald(8), but again, I don't know how to debug this. Any help with this very odd bug would be greatly appreciated. ----- End forwarded message ----- This problem is known (and fixed) in newer versions of xorg-server. See this URL for details of the problem. I have also attached the changes I made to the dit/events.c file. After rebuilding xorg-server with those patches, the Open Motif (mwm) window manager now works with the above minimize keyboard and mouse squence. Thanks for all the help. Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| for (; grab; grab = grab->next) { DeviceIntPtr gdev; XkbSrvInfoPtr xkbi = NULL; /* 3471 Mask mask = 0; */ gdev= grab->modifierDevice; =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= } xE = &core; count = 1; /* 3586 mask = grab->eventMask; */ } else if (match & XI2_MATCH) { =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= count = 1; /* 3599 * FIXME: EventToXI2 returns NULL for enter events, so * dereferencing the event is bad. Internal event types are * aligned with core events, so the else clause is valid. * long-term we should use internal events for enter/focus * as well * if (xE) mask = grab->xi2mask[device->id][((xGenericEvent*)xE)->evtype/8]; else if (event->type == XI_Enter || event->type == XI_FocusIn) mask = grab->xi2mask[device->id][event->type/8]; */ } else { rc = EventToXI((InternalEvent*)event, &xE, &count); =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= "(%d, %d).\n", device->name, event->type, rc); continue; } /* 3618 mask = grab->eventMask; */ } (*grabinfo->ActivateGrab)(device, grab, currentTime, TRUE); =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= if (xE) { FixUpEventFromWindow(device, xE, grab->window, None, TRUE); /* 3627 TryClientEvents(rClient(grab), device, xE, count, mask, */ TryClientEvents(rClient(grab), device, xE, count, GetEventFilter(device, xE), GetEventFilter(device, xE), grab); } if (grabinfo->sync.state == FROZEN_NO_EVENT) ----- End forwarded message ----- Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 14:25:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097791065674 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:25:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6848FC24 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:25:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19867 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2010 14:25:51 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 11 Oct 2010 14:25:51 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 688FA5082F; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:25:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Phan Quoc Hien References: <1286463446.8004.5.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> <0B26C158-127F-45AD-B2F3-D287F222AB91@cwis.biz> <72172F50-1BC8-42CC-AE55-5BF83CC1867C@cwis.biz> <4A031AD6-9E27-48E0-90F5-D1B6C3A892DF@cwis.biz> <44y6a93lhd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:25:48 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Phan Quoc Hien's message of "Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:53:23 +0700") Message-ID: <44aamkkdqr.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ale@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can not install ZendOptimizer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:25:52 -0000 Phan Quoc Hien writes: > Maybe no solution forever for ZendOptimizer with >=php 5.3 on FreeBSD...so > said...!!:( As far as I can see, ZendOptimizer doesn't support PHP 5.3 on *any* OS. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 14:57:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED83106564A; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:57:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpagnoni@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1888FC0C; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:57:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so4719034iwn.13 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:57:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ANMga+D0CFBxJsURPXpwIIkJkRPUiwtFEqG1qvuwaPk=; b=AWufwHrE2Ufpw7Z0JfUiuyeUb3F0XILhYm7/8bgkXShlAnBppmKtyfNBOLIXH6ntFz cbuQskXjorHwTlwDs0p32uFRq1SnIIoaJn6fNoEqIfe6E5M3U7s+qKuPgn1HvG5F7Jp2 0XeXc8fU8GW8tuUTi2Wv4B1KftRV3R9ZbUEzY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FP9dnUlMtt9RtsoVavB9d5rYyq6tQz7DAue2lUrIXLLv6kLHtuPsre3HOQHnt4uTPo uVgBcnDUn6Us3NDnQ8UkCL5JbPdAzZZwgW/+suAP4N6KtlgfgkiXY6/WARsq60aADuKb ae8S+oiB5VEzbQ2FCk2ClNX6L2tpBzxobjTDM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.36.8 with SMTP id r8mr4552716ibd.128.1286809037602; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.147.138 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:57:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101011140730.GA81063@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> References: <20101011140730.GA81063@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:57:16 +0200 Message-ID: From: Giuseppe Pagnoni To: Giuseppe Pagnoni , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Xorg 7.5 and OpenMotif: mouse stuck in box X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:57:20 -0000 Dear William, thank you very much for your reply, it does seem to be the same type of bug. However, and I apologize for being dense here, it is not immediate to me how to proceed practically to apply the patch from within the ports framework. Also, I still wonder why the patch hasn't been incorporated in the tree given that the bug is known.... thanks again giuseppe On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 4:07 PM, William Bulley wrote: > > Giuseppe Pagnoni wrote: >> >> I am resending this because it seems to me a really critical bug >> (prevents you from using OpenMotif or lesstif applications), but >> apparently nothing has been changed since last july. =A0Upgrading xorg >> to 1.7.7 does fix the problem, but I wonder if this may cause >> dependency problems in the ports tree. =A0Also, if this is the correct >> fix, is there a reason why it hasn't been integrated in the ports yet? >> >> thanks again >> >> giuseppe >> >> >>>> >> I am having a problem with xorg 1.7.5 and OpenMotif resulting in the >> mouse being stuck in certain areas of the Motif windows that are >> supposed to open dialog boxes when right-clicked. =A0I noticed that >> somebody else reported the problem already in this list, and that it >> seems to have been fixed in xorg 1.7.7. =A0However xorg 1.7.7 is not yet >> available in the ports tree, nor it looks like a patch is in for the >> current version (I tried to recompile xorg today after a port tree >> update). =A0Is manually compiling Xorg the only solution right now? >> >> thanks in advance for any advice >> >> giuseppe >> >> >>>>> > > This is what I found recently. =A0Hope this helps you. > > ----- Forwarded message from William Bulley ----- > > To: FreeBSD Questions > From: William Bulley > Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 11:31:15 -0400 > Subject: SOLVED: serious (for me) Xorg 7.5 mouse/kbd problem in 8.1-STABL= E > Cc: x11@freebsd.org, steve@freebsd.org > > See below for details of solution. > > ----- Forwarded message from William Bulley ----- > > To: FreeBSD Questions > From: William Bulley > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:38:34 -0400 > Subject: serious (for me) Xorg 7.5 mouse/kbd problem in 8.1-STABLE > > For years I have run Open-Motif on FreeBSD without issue. > > I use a USB keyboard and a USB three button mouse attached to a Dell > Optiplex 960. =A0This combination has worked fine for the past year. > > This week I upgraded from 8.0-STABLE circa January 2010 to 8.1-STABLE. > I do this by doing a buildworld/installworld sequence after csup-ing > stable-supfile and rebooting. =A0In this case I also pkg_deleted all of > my ports and am rebuilding them from source. =A0Building Xorg is one of > the very first ports I attempt since I prefer to work in xterms not > virtual terminals. > > This upgrade moved me from Xorg 7.3 to Xorg 7.5, but Open-Motif stayed > the same - open-motif-2.2.3_6 - it hasn't changed in years. > > After building Xorg, as root, I ran the "Xorg -configure" command to > generate my xorg.conf.new file. =A0Since a working /etc/X11/xorg.conf > file was still around after the upgrade from 8.0-STABLE/Xorg 7.3, I > felt no need to change anything in that file (later file comparisons > confirmed that nothing had changed). > > My only relevant additions to /etc/X11/xorg.conf are these: > > =A0 Section "ServerFlags" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Option =A0"AutoAddDevices" "off" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Option =A0"DontZap" "false" > =A0 EndSection > > In my /etc/rc.conf file I have dbus and hald enabled, and that has > not changed since the beginning of 2010 after the confusion abated. > > As a normal user, I start Xorg using /usr/local/bin/xinit as always. > I have several xterms configured in my ~/.xinitrc file. =A0All those > came up in the correct location and state. =A0I was able to open those > that started in iconic mode. =A0In an open/raised xterm I could enter > carriage returns and see my shell prompt move down the window. =A0But > when I tried to close/minimize an open/raised xterm, things failed. > > I use the following keyboard/mouse combination (configured in my > .mwmrc file) to close (minimize) an xterm (and other applications): > > =A0 Shift =A0 =A0 =A0 window =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0f.minimize > > This is also unchanged for some years. =A0This particular setting has > no bearing on the problem I came across yesterday. =A0I merely state > it for the record. =A0However, this configuration triggers the "bug". > > The problem is as soon as I use that Shift/Btn3Click combination, > my arrow cursor disappears, then I cannot move to or select other > xterms - I am frozen, or locked, into the xterm I was trying to > close/minimize. =A0All I can do at this point is to kill(1) the > /usr/local/bin/xinit command to return to the virtual terminal > where I launched my Xorg session. > > I am now reluctantly using the good old /usr/local/bin/twm which > is always built when Xorg is built from source. =A0I am at a loss > as to what to look for next. =A0I suspect Xorg, or the keyboard and > mouse driver, not the video driver, that came with. =A0It might be > a problem with hald(8), but again, I don't know how to debug this. > > Any help with this very odd bug would be greatly appreciated. > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > This problem is known (and fixed) in newer versions of xorg-server. > > See this URL for details of the problem. > > =A0 > > I have also attached the changes I made to the dit/events.c file. > > After rebuilding xorg-server with those patches, the Open Motif > (mwm) window manager now works with the above minimize keyboard > and mouse squence. =A0Thanks for all the help. > > Regards, > > web... > > -- > William Bulley =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Email: web@umich.e= du > > 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| > > > =A0 =A0for (; grab; grab =3D grab->next) > =A0 =A0{ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0DeviceIntPtr =A0 =A0gdev; > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0XkbSrvInfoPtr =A0 xkbi =3D NULL; > /* 3471 Mask =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0mask =3D 0; */ > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0gdev=3D grab->modifierDevice; > > > =A0=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*= =3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0} > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0xE =3D &core; > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0count =3D 1; > /* 3586 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 mask =3D grab->eventMask; */ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0} else if (match & XI2_MATCH) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0{ > > > =A0=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*= =3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0count =3D 1; > > /* 3599 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0* FIXME: EventToXI2 returns NULL for enter eve= nts, so > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 * dereferencing the event is bad. Interna= l event types are > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 * aligned with core events, so the else c= lause is valid. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 * long-term we should use internal events= for enter/focus > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 * as well * > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0if (xE) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0mask =3D grab->xi2mask[device->id]= [((xGenericEvent*)xE)->evtype/8]; > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0else if (event->type =3D=3D XI_Enter || ev= ent->type =3D=3D XI_FocusIn) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0mask =3D grab->xi2mask[device->id]= [event->type/8]; */ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0} else > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0{ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0rc =3D EventToXI((InternalEvent*)event, &x= E, &count); > > > =A0=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*= =3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"(%d, %d).= \n", device->name, event->type, rc); > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0continue; > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0} > /* 3618 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 mask =3D grab->eventMask; */ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0} > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(*grabinfo->ActivateGrab)(device, grab, currentTim= e, TRUE); > > > =A0=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*= =3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D*=3D > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0if (xE) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0{ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0FixUpEventFromWindow(device, xE, grab->win= dow, None, TRUE); > > /* 3627 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0TryClientEvents(rClient(grab), device, xE,= count, mask, */ > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 TryClientEvents(rClient(grab), device= , xE, count, > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 GetEventFilter(device, xE), > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 GetEventFilter(device, xE), grab); > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0} > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0if (grabinfo->sync.state =3D=3D FROZEN_NO_EVENT) > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > Regards, > > web... > > -- > William Bulley =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Email: web@umich.e= du > > 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| > --=20 Giuseppe Pagnoni Dip. Scienze Biomediche Sezione Fisiologia Univ. di Modena e Reggio Emilia Via Campi 287 I-41125 Modena, Italy Tel: +39-059-205-5742 Fax: +39-059-205-5336 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 15:02:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F2F106566C for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:02:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nekoexmachina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB7B8FC15 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:02:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy27 with SMTP id 27so1789660ewy.13 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:02:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:user-agent; bh=+YIsuvGSsH1QYo/FayB6NQJHQUIMT0bHFzUEG/BbpAY=; b=vOJTd8gP/YwkT55o+FEAAzba0pHPpWXmDgROtY7Nrudom8sozCMIRhbnr5h2+FHvwU 9QUIf7y9K/+438GZjaRaUZrJZEdqvhaL7mcG9AXuGne8shAwFojhMKAe/NoHF9th9NmQ YDnPeZd23eMuxjVidOZ6jOFDy7yHeG2T7pf/o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:user-agent; b=PSWdpz3C3ZmHlaMe/eXUkHVVQQqipvQO0ig/Kk0ck/qL+gDYY0+3bXYL7S5WDPSSt3 Yv2ayFYAceWtI+3KkUKM18ck7rDeyx7x21WzfmY1vEt4i9mUjytkXhN2JGper7iBVbvY 1cHkS7/UlxzCkhc2Zp2tXdiePKv4xO/jNq+Xk= Received: by 10.213.54.140 with SMTP id q12mr1780000ebg.71.1286809367910; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([188.134.12.208]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v8sm11056011eeh.8.2010.10.11.08.02.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:59:59 +0000 From: Mikle Krutov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101011185959.GA5900@takino.homeftp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Sacred Gold (Linux) on FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:02:49 -0000 Hello, list! Has anyone had a positive experience with subj? As for me, it loads till the first load-screen state 'Ready' and hangs there. Nothing dumps in console. Any variant what to try to do? -- Old mercenaries never die. They go to hell and regroup. With best regards, Mikle Krutov, Bercut ltd. Technical Support department From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 16:22:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375DA106564A for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:22:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C405A8FC0A for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:22:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB445E6161; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:22:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from core.nessbank (client-86-31-64-159.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.31.64.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:22:14 +0100 (BST) From: Bruce Cran To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:22:13 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/9.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.5.1; amd64; ; ) References: <201010080012.o980CteE023986@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201010080012.o980CteE023986@mail.r-bonomi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201010111722.13545.bruce@cran.org.uk> Cc: Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:22:16 -0000 On Friday 08 October 2010 01:12:55 Robert Bonomi wrote: > he'll tell you: "I need to review the copyright notices, licenses, and > distribution restricions on _each_and_every_ item in that package. Go > check _every_ file you intend to include, bring me a list showing > 1) every file name > 2) who holds the copyright to that file > 3) what form of license it is issued under, and for each form of license > a complete copy of that license. > 4) any 'restricted use' notices you may find along the way > > Then _you_ actually perform the audit. Which is why it's so important not to customize the license text when creating new files! -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 16:42:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72516106566B for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C18C8FC0A for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:42:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7DE1DE81F96; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:41:52 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:42:01 -0000 On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 08:26:45PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > I'm lost. Aday ago when I rebooted my old Dell, the mouse wouldn't > work. A hour ago I got X booting on my server, but the same thing: > no mouse. I see the cursor, but it is frozen. The only place my > mouse works is on my linux system. The KVM connections seem soild; > the only problem is the mouse. The brand is "Logitech" but it is > a PS/2 mouse. > > > I have tried the sysinstall utility; nothing. Would completely > rebuilding the kernels and worlds do any good? Any other ideas? > Here is more from dmesg on my server. startx brings up three twm xterms and a tiny xclock in the upper right corner, but the mouse cursor is frozen. The KVM unit is a Belkin SOHO, if that means anything. The KVM box is balanced on the edge of a small platic table; my 20" widescreen display is jury-rigged behind and balanced on surplus plastic. I can't do much of anything because I can't tell where the mouse is plugged i to the KVM unit. I'm including the dmesg output from the server. Is there a mouse driver I can compile that will get the mouse working on my two FreeBSD platforms? [Right now, things only work on my Ubuntu desktop. ... ] thanks for any help. gary Enc: dmesg fron ethic Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p4 #2: Sat Nov 21 05:52:04 PST 2009 root@ethic.thought.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ETHIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz (2793.01-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x1067a Stepping = 10 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x408e39d AMD Features=0x20100000 AMD Features2=0x1 Cores per package: 2 real memory = 3478716416 (3317 MB) avail memory = 3399180288 (3241 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 4 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, cf490000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 device_attach: acpi_hpet0 attach returned 12 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 vgapci0: port 0xff00-0xff07 mem 0xfdf00000-0xfdf7ffff,0xd0000000-0xdfffffff,0xfdb00000-0xfdbfffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 agp0: on vgapci0 agp0: detected 7164k stolen memory agp0: aperture size is 256M em0: port 0xfe00-0xfe1f mem 0xfdfc0000-0xfdfdffff,0xfdfff000-0xfdffffff irq 20 at device 25.0 on pci0 em0: Using MSI interrupt em0: [FILTER] em0: Ethernet address: 00:24:e8:17:88:61 uhci0: port 0xfd00-0xfd1f irq 16 at device 26.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci0: [ITHREAD] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: on usb0 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xfc00-0xfc1f irq 21 at device 26.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci1: [ITHREAD] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: on usb1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xfb00-0xfb1f irq 19 at device 26.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci2: [ITHREAD] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: on usb2 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xfdffe000-0xfdffe3ff irq 18 at device 26.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci0: [ITHREAD] usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3: on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: on usb3 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered uhub4: on uhub3 uhub4: single transaction translator uhub4: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered ukbd0: on uhub4 kbd2 at ukbd0 uhid0: on uhub4 pci0: at device 27.0 (no driver attached) uhci3: port 0xfa00-0xfa1f irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci3: [ITHREAD] usb4: on uhci3 usb4: USB revision 1.0 uhub5: on usb4 uhub5: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci4: port 0xf900-0xf91f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci4: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci4: [ITHREAD] usb5: on uhci4 usb5: USB revision 1.0 uhub6: on usb5 uhub6: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci5: port 0xf800-0xf81f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci5: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci5: [ITHREAD] usb6: on uhci5 usb6: USB revision 1.0 uhub7: on usb6 uhub7: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci1: mem 0xfdffd000-0xfdffd3ff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci1: [ITHREAD] usb7: EHCI version 1.0 usb7: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb4 usb5 usb6 usb7: on ehci1 usb7: USB revision 2.0 uhub8: on usb7 uhub8: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered umass0: on uhub8 pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 re0: port 0xde00-0xdeff mem 0xfddff000-0xfddff0ff irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci2 re0: Chip rev. 0x00800000 re0: MAC rev. 0x00000000 miibus0: on re0 rgephy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 rgephy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto re0: Ethernet address: 00:08:54:d8:4a:99 re0: [FILTER] isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf700-0xf707,0xf600-0xf603,0xf500-0xf507,0xf400-0xf403,0xf300-0xf30f,0xf200-0xf20f irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci0: [ITHREAD] ata2: on atapci0 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: on atapci0 ata3: [ITHREAD] pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) atapci1: port 0xf000-0xf007,0xef00-0xef03,0xee00-0xee07,0xed00-0xed03,0xec00-0xec0f,0xeb00-0xeb0f irq 19 at device 31.5 on pci0 atapci1: [ITHREAD] ata4: on atapci1 ata4: [ITHREAD] ata5: on atapci1 ata5: [ITHREAD] acpi_tz0: on acpi0 speaker0: port 0x61 on acpi0 fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FILTER] cpu0: on acpi0 est0: on cpu0 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 6164a2306004a23 device_attach: est0 attach returned 6 p4tcc0: on cpu0 cpu1: on acpi0 est1: on cpu1 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 6164a2306004a23 device_attach: est1 attach returned 6 p4tcc1: on cpu1 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 device_attach: acpi_hpet0 attach returned 12 pmtimer0 on isa0 ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1 at port 0x170-0x177,0x376 irq 15 on isa0 ata1: [ITHREAD] atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 8250 or not responding sio0: [FILTER] sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ad4: 476940MB at ata2-master SATA300 GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad4s1 is ufsid/4b047bd37d66bcd3. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad4s2 is ufsid/4b047bdffc933b67. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad4s4 is ufsid/4b047bd775058e20. acd0: DVDR at ata3-master SATA150 acd0: FAILURE - INQUIRY ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00 sks=0x40 0x00 0x01 (probe0:ata3:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe0:ata3:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:ata3:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition (probe0:ata3:0:0:0): NOT READY asc:3a,1 (probe0:ata3:0:0:0): Medium not present - tray closed (probe0:ata3:0:0:0): Unretryable error (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Medium not present (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Unretryable error acd0: FAILURE - INQUIRY ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00 sks=0x40 0x00 0x01 (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:1): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 20 0 0 0 0 (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:1): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:1): SCSI Status: Check Condition (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:1): NOT READY asc:3a,0 (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:1): Medium not present (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:1): Unretryable error (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:2): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 40 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:2): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:2): SCSI Status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:2): NOT READY asc:3a,0 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:2): Medium not present (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:2): Unretryable error (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:3): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 60 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:3): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:3): SCSI Status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:3): NOT READY asc:3a,0 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:3): Medium not present (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:3): Unretryable error SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! cd0 at ata3 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 3.300MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray closed da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present da1 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 1 da1: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers da1: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present da2 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 2 da2: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da2: 40.000MB/s transfers da2: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present da3 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 3 da3: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da3: 40.000MB/s transfers da3: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4b047bd37d66bcd3 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad4s1 is ufsid/4b047bd37d66bcd3. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4b047bd775058e20 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad4s4 is ufsid/4b047bd775058e20. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4b047bdffc933b67 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad4s2 is ufsid/4b047bdffc933b67. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4b047bd37d66bcd3 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4b047bd775058e20 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4b047bdffc933b67 removed. drm0: on vgapci0 vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster info: [drm] AGP at 0xd0000000 256MB info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 drm0: [ITHREAD] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 16:43:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5A51065754; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:43:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.14.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B73B28FC24; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:43:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: FROM itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu (itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu [141.213.135.249]) By hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4CB33EA2.95A71.22567 ; Authuser web; 11 Oct 2010 12:43:14 EDT Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:43:12 -0400 From: William Bulley To: Giuseppe Pagnoni Message-ID: <20101011164312.GC80560@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Giuseppe Pagnoni , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg 7.5 and OpenMotif: mouse stuck in box X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:43:16 -0000 According to Giuseppe Pagnoni on Mon, 10/11/10 at 10:57: > > thank you very much for your reply, it does seem to be the same type > of bug. However, and I apologize for being dense here, it is not > immediate to me how to proceed practically to apply the patch from > within the ports framework. Also, I still wonder why the patch hasn't > been incorporated in the tree given that the bug is known.... I am not able to answer your final question - that is left to the ports maintainers to address. I simply installed the latest (was it 1.7.5) xorg-server at that time and added those half dozen patches. If 1.7.7 solved the problem, then I'm not sure what issue(s) you have. If you want to have FreeBSD ports upgraded, I would contact the port's maintainers directly. I chose not to install xorg-server 1.7.7 since I was unsure if there were other dependencies or issues that might arise from doing so. I'm not used to "patch"ing a mature, released port, so for me even that was a leap of faith! :-) Just for clarity, I did not formally "patch" this port (xorg-server). I went into the directory tree beneath the "work" directory, found the dit/events.c file, and made those above mentioned (about six or so) small source code patches. I then re-made the port and re-installed the port. After it tested successfully, I reported my results to the -questions list in case it would help others. YMMV. And good luck! Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 17:29:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECDB1065675 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:29:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glimp@live.com) Received: from snt0-omc2-s44.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s44.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.61.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C089D8FC15 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:29:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SNT136-W25 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s44.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:17:10 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [151.49.249.1] From: dan p To: , Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:17:09 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org>, <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2010 17:17:10.0229 (UTC) FILETIME=[2370A050:01CB6968] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: RE: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:29:11 -0000 > Date: Mon=2C 11 Oct 2010 09:41:52 -0700 > From: kline@thought.org > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mouse problems.... >=20 > On Sun=2C Oct 10=2C 2010 at 08:26:45PM -0700=2C Gary Kline wrote: > > I'm lost. Aday ago when I rebooted my old Dell=2C the mouse wouldn't > > work. A hour ago I got X booting on my server=2C but the same thing: > > no mouse. I see the cursor=2C but it is frozen. The only place my > > mouse works is on my linux system. The KVM connections seem soild=3B > > the only problem is the mouse. The brand is "Logitech" but it is > > a PS/2 mouse. > >=20 > >=20 > > I have tried the sysinstall utility=3B nothing. Would completely > > rebuilding the kernels and worlds do any good? Any other ideas? > >=20 >=20 >=20 > Here is more from dmesg on my server. startx brings up three > twm xterms and a tiny xclock in the upper right corner=2C but the > mouse cursor is frozen. The KVM unit is a Belkin SOHO=2C if that > means anything. The KVM box is balanced on the edge of a small > platic table=3B my 20" widescreen display is jury-rigged behind > and balanced on surplus plastic. I can't do much of anything > because I can't tell where the mouse is plugged i to the KVM > unit. =20 >=20 > I'm including the dmesg output from the server. Is there a > mouse driver I can compile that will get the mouse working on my > two FreeBSD platforms? [Right now=2C things only work on my > Ubuntu desktop. ... ] >=20 > thanks for any help. >=20 > gary >=20 > Enc: dmesg fron ethic >=20 >=20 >=20 > Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979=2C 1980=2C 1983=2C 1986=2C 1988=2C 1989=2C 1991=2C 199= 2=2C 1993=2C 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p4 #2: Sat Nov 21 05:52:04 PST 2009 > root@ethic.thought.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ETHIC > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz (2793.01-MHz 686-cla= ss CPU) > Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x1067a Stepping =3D 10 > Features=3D0xbfebfbff > Features2=3D0x408e39d > AMD Features=3D0x20100000 > AMD Features2=3D0x1 > Cores per package: 2 > real memory =3D 3478716416 (3317 MB) > avail memory =3D 3399180288 (3241 MB) > ACPI APIC Table: > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 4 > ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard > kbd1 at kbdmux0 > acpi0: on motherboard > acpi0: [ITHREAD] > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > acpi0: reservation of 0=2C a0000 (3) failed > acpi0: reservation of 100000=2C cf490000 (3) failed > Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 > acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 > acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on a= cpi0 > device_attach: acpi_hpet0 attach returned 12 > acpi_button0: on acpi0 > pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 > pci0: on pcib0 > pcib1: irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0 > pci1: on pcib1 > vgapci0: port 0xff00-0xff07 mem 0xfdf00000-0xfdf= 7ffff=2C0xd0000000-0xdfffffff=2C0xfdb00000-0xfdbfffff irq 16 at device 2.0 = on pci0 > agp0: on vgapci0 > agp0: detected 7164k stolen memory > agp0: aperture size is 256M > em0: port 0xfe00-0xfe1f mem = 0xfdfc0000-0xfdfdffff=2C0xfdfff000-0xfdffffff irq 20 at device 25.0 on pci0 > em0: Using MSI interrupt > em0: [FILTER] > em0: Ethernet address: 00:24:e8:17:88:61 > uhci0: port 0xfd00-0xfd1f irq 16 at devic= e 26.0 on pci0 > uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > uhci0: [ITHREAD] > usb0: on uhci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: on u= sb0 > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable=2C self powered > uhci1: port 0xfc00-0xfc1f irq 21 at devic= e 26.1 on pci0 > uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] > uhci1: [ITHREAD] > usb1: on uhci1 > usb1: USB revision 1.0 > uhub1: on u= sb1 > uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable=2C self powered > uhci2: port 0xfb00-0xfb1f irq 19 at devic= e 26.2 on pci0 > uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] > uhci2: [ITHREAD] > usb2: on uhci2 > usb2: USB revision 1.0 > uhub2: on u= sb2 > uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable=2C self powered > ehci0: mem 0xfdffe000-0xfdffe3ff irq = 18 at device 26.7 on pci0 > ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > ehci0: [ITHREAD] > usb3: EHCI version 1.0 > usb3: companion controllers=2C 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 > usb3: on ehci0 > usb3: USB revision 2.0 > uhub3: on u= sb3 > uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable=2C self powered > uhub4: on uhub3 > uhub4: single transaction translator > uhub4: 4 ports with 4 removable=2C self powered > ukbd0: = on uhub4 > kbd2 at ukbd0 > uhid0: = on uhub4 > pci0: at device 27.0 (no driver attached) > uhci3: port 0xfa00-0xfa1f irq 23 at devic= e 29.0 on pci0 > uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] > uhci3: [ITHREAD] > usb4: on uhci3 > usb4: USB revision 1.0 > uhub5: on u= sb4 > uhub5: 2 ports with 2 removable=2C self powered > uhci4: port 0xf900-0xf91f irq 19 at devic= e 29.1 on pci0 > uhci4: [GIANT-LOCKED] > uhci4: [ITHREAD] > usb5: on uhci4 > usb5: USB revision 1.0 > uhub6: on u= sb5 > uhub6: 2 ports with 2 removable=2C self powered > uhci5: port 0xf800-0xf81f irq 18 at devic= e 29.2 on pci0 > uhci5: [GIANT-LOCKED] > uhci5: [ITHREAD] > usb6: on uhci5 > usb6: USB revision 1.0 > uhub7: on u= sb6 > uhub7: 2 ports with 2 removable=2C self powered > ehci1: mem 0xfdffd000-0xfdffd3ff irq = 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 > ehci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] > ehci1: [ITHREAD] > usb7: EHCI version 1.0 > usb7: companion controllers=2C 2 ports each: usb4 usb5 usb6 > usb7: on ehci1 > usb7: USB revision 2.0 > uhub8: on u= sb7 > uhub8: 6 ports with 6 removable=2C self powered > umass0: on uhub8 > pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 > pci2: on pcib2 > re0: port= 0xde00-0xdeff mem 0xfddff000-0xfddff0ff irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci2 > re0: Chip rev. 0x00800000 > re0: MAC rev. 0x00000000 > miibus0: on re0 > rgephy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 > rgephy0: 10baseT=2C 10baseT-FDX=2C 100baseTX=2C 100baseTX-FDX=2C 1000bas= eT=2C 1000baseT-FDX=2C auto > re0: Ethernet address: 00:08:54:d8:4a:99 > re0: [FILTER] > isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 > isa0: on isab0 > atapci0: port 0xf700-0xf707=2C0xf600-0xf6= 03=2C0xf500-0xf507=2C0xf400-0xf403=2C0xf300-0xf30f=2C0xf200-0xf20f irq 19 a= t device 31.2 on pci0 > atapci0: [ITHREAD] > ata2: on atapci0 > ata2: [ITHREAD] > ata3: on atapci0 > ata3: [ITHREAD] > pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) > atapci1: port 0xf000-0xf007=2C0xef00-0xef= 03=2C0xee00-0xee07=2C0xed00-0xed03=2C0xec00-0xec0f=2C0xeb00-0xeb0f irq 19 a= t device 31.5 on pci0 > atapci1: [ITHREAD] > ata4: on atapci1 > ata4: [ITHREAD] > ata5: on atapci1 > ata5: [ITHREAD] > acpi_tz0: on acpi0 > speaker0: port 0x61 on acpi0 > fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5=2C0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on a= cpi0 > fdc0: [FILTER] > cpu0: on acpi0 > est0: on cpu0 > est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep=2C but is not recognized. > est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel=2C msr 6164a2306004a23 > device_attach: est0 attach returned 6 > p4tcc0: on cpu0 > cpu1: on acpi0 > est1: on cpu1 > est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep=2C but is not recognized. > est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel=2C msr 6164a2306004a23 > device_attach: est1 attach returned 6 > p4tcc1: on cpu1 > acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on a= cpi0 > device_attach: acpi_hpet0 attach returned 12 > pmtimer0 on isa0 > ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7=2C0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0 > ata0: [ITHREAD] > ata1 at port 0x170-0x177=2C0x376 irq 15 on isa0 > ata1: [ITHREAD] > atkbdc0: at port 0x60=2C0x64 on isa0 > atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 > kbd0 at atkbd0 > atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > atkbd0: [ITHREAD] > ppc0: parallel port not found. > sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 > sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles=2C flags=3D0x300> > sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio0: port may not be enabled > sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio0: port may not be enabled > sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 > sio0: type 8250 or not responding > sio0: [FILTER] > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio1: port may not be enabled > vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 > Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec > ad4: 476940MB at ata2-master SATA300 > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad4s1 is ufsid/4b047bd37d66bcd3. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad4s2 is ufsid/4b047bdffc933b67. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad4s4 is ufsid/4b047bd775058e20. > acd0: DVDR at ata3-master SATA150 > acd0: FAILURE - INQUIRY ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=3D0x24 ascq=3D0x00 sks=3D0x40= 0x00 0x01 > (probe0:ata3:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0=20 > (probe0:ata3:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error > (probe0:ata3:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition > (probe0:ata3:0:0:0): NOT READY asc:3a=2C1 > (probe0:ata3:0:0:0): Medium not present - tray closed > (probe0:ata3:0:0:0): Unretryable error > (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0=20 > (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error > (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition > (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): NOT READY asc:3a=2C0 > (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Medium not present > (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Unretryable error > acd0: FAILURE - INQUIRY ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=3D0x24 ascq=3D0x00 sks=3D0x40= 0x00 0x01 > (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:1): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 20 0 0 0 0=20 > (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:1): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error > (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:1): SCSI Status: Check Condition > (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:1): NOT READY asc:3a=2C0 > (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:1): Medium not present > (probe1:umass-sim0:0:0:1): Unretryable error > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:2): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 40 0 0 0 0=20 > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:2): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:2): SCSI Status: Check Condition > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:2): NOT READY asc:3a=2C0 > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:2): Medium not present > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:2): Unretryable error > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:3): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 60 0 0 0 0=20 > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:3): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:3): SCSI Status: Check Condition > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:3): NOT READY asc:3a=2C0 > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:3): Medium not present > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:3): Unretryable error > SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! > cd0 at ata3 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device=20 > cd0: 3.300MB/s transfers > cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY=2C Medium not present= - tray closed > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device=20 > da0: 40.000MB/s transfers > da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY=2C Medium not present > da1 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 1 > da1: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device=20 > da1: 40.000MB/s transfers > da1: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY=2C Medium not present > da2 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 2 > da2: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device=20 > da2: 40.000MB/s transfers > da2: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY=2C Medium not present > da3 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 3 > da3: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device=20 > da3: 40.000MB/s transfers > da3: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY=2C Medium not present > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4b047bd37d66bcd3 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad4s1 is ufsid/4b047bd37d66bcd3. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4b047bd775058e20 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad4s4 is ufsid/4b047bd775058e20. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4b047bdffc933b67 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad4s2 is ufsid/4b047bdffc933b67. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4b047bd37d66bcd3 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4b047bd775058e20 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4b047bdffc933b67 removed. > drm0: on vgapci0 > vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster > info: [drm] AGP at 0xd0000000 256MB > info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 > drm0: [ITHREAD] >=20 What kind of mouse are you using ? USB ? If so=2C I don't see any driver=20 attached. Also=2C It does not seem HAL and DBUS services have been started and are ru= nning: in some configurations they are required for mouse to work d = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 17:31:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48778106564A for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:31:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094B78FC12 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:31:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-73-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.73.80]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A6A22087; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:31:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o9BHVrge001529; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:31:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:31:53 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:31:56 -0000 On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:41:52 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > I'm including the dmesg output from the server. Is there a > mouse driver I can compile that will get the mouse working on my > two FreeBSD platforms? This is not needed - the mouse driver is already in the default kernel. For a PS/2 mouse, dmesg should show a "psm" entry, and there should be /dev/psm0. I think I don't see a mouse in this dmesg, so there is NO mouse. The keyboard seems to be present. The psm device can be configured per /etc/rc.conf using moused. While USB mice get configured by the USB subsystem automatically, PS/2 and serial mice do not. Here's an example entry: moused_enable="YES" moused_port="/dev/psm0" moused_flags="-z 4" moused_type="auto" If you're using X, it should pick up a mouse configured this way. There should be no need to edit xorg.conf (unless you intendedly need nonstandard settings that the autodetection magic won't get right). You can check if the mouse works if you move the cursor in text mode. An arrow should be visible. If you just want to check things without file modifying (and rebooting), you can invoke moused directly, e. g. moused -d -f -p /dev/psm0 -t auto -z 4 Here, -d enables debugging messages, and -f forces moused NOT to become a daemon, so you can ^C to purge it when done. If you see that the settings are working properly, modify the rc.conf file as shown above. Compiling kernel & world to get a mouse working, bah... :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 18:14:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694FA1065670 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3858FC12 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:14:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5CFF3E81F96; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:14:38 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20101011181438.GA5076@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:14:48 -0000 On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 07:31:53PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:41:52 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > I'm including the dmesg output from the server. Is there a > > mouse driver I can compile that will get the mouse working on my > > two FreeBSD platforms? > > This is not needed - the mouse driver is already in the default > kernel. For a PS/2 mouse, dmesg should show a "psm" entry, and > there should be /dev/psm0. > > I think I don't see a mouse in this dmesg, so there is NO mouse. > The keyboard seems to be present. > > The psm device can be configured per /etc/rc.conf using moused. > While USB mice get configured by the USB subsystem automatically, > PS/2 and serial mice do not. > > Here's an example entry: > > moused_enable="YES" > moused_port="/dev/psm0" > moused_flags="-z 4" > moused_type="auto" > > If you're using X, it should pick up a mouse configured this > way. There should be no need to edit xorg.conf (unless you intendedly > need nonstandard settings that the autodetection magic won't get > right). > > You can check if the mouse works if you move the cursor in text > mode. An arrow should be visible. If you just want to check things > without file modifying (and rebooting), you can invoke moused > directly, e. g. > > moused -d -f -p /dev/psm0 -t auto -z 4 > > Here, -d enables debugging messages, and -f forces moused NOT to > become a daemon, so you can ^C to purge it when done. If you see that > the settings are working properly, modify the rc.conf file as shown > above. > > > > Compiling kernel & world to get a mouse working, bah... :-) > Bah, or Bah-humbug! I tried the quick-fix mod and get the following: moused_type="auto" moused: optind: 9, optarg: '4' moused: unable to open /dev/psm0: No such file or directory ethic# Then i dropped in your four line into /etc/rc.conf and rebooted. A few lines before the prompt was the message that "/dev/psm0" was not file nor directory. Suggestions? The kernel on this '09 Dell is from last December. I'll rebuild. I finished upgrading kernel and world on my 2003 Dell. Will drop in your 4 lines and see what happened after reboot. [??] gary > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 18:27:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02013106566C for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:27:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C3E8FC17 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-73-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.73.80]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247023DAA5; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:27:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o9BIRfZN001691; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:27:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:27:41 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20101011202741.9e107460.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20101011181438.GA5076@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101011181438.GA5076@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:27:44 -0000 On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:14:38 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > Bah, or Bah-humbug! I tried the quick-fix mod and get the > following: > > > moused_type="auto" > moused: optind: 9, optarg: '4' > moused: unable to open /dev/psm0: No such file or directory > ethic# This was to be expected. Check # dmesg | grep psm If no PS/2 mouse shows up, moused has nothing to connect to. Maybe resetting (power-cycling) the KVM switch helps? > Then i dropped in your four line into /etc/rc.conf and rebooted. > A few lines before the prompt was the message that "/dev/psm0" > was not file nor directory. Same thing - no device there. > Suggestions? The kernel on this '09 Dell is from last December. > I'll rebuild. I've been using PS/2 mice with 4.0 GENERIC kernel, so there will surely be no "bleeding edge" technology needed. :-) The psm driver has been part of the GENERIC kernel for years, and I doubt is has been removed lately... > I finished upgrading kernel and world on my 2003 Dell. Will > drop in your 4 lines and see what happened after reboot. Also check dmesg. The psm device MUST be found. It should "come through" the same controller mechanism as the keyboard (atkbdc), so if the keyboard works, the mouse should, too. Oh, just a suggestion: if you can directly connect a mouse, check if it works. Do NOT connect anything from or to a PS/2 connector while the system is powered on! PS/2 is NOT hot-pluggable! -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 19:14:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A833106564A for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:14:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3A68FC17 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E1BAFE81F96; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:14:43 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20101011191443.GA5223@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101011181438.GA5076@thought.org> <20101011202741.9e107460.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101011202741.9e107460.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:14:54 -0000 On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 08:27:41PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:14:38 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > Bah, or Bah-humbug! I tried the quick-fix mod and get the > > following: > > > > > > moused_type="auto" > > moused: optind: 9, optarg: '4' > > moused: unable to open /dev/psm0: No such file or directory > > ethic# > > This was to be expected. Check > > # dmesg | grep psm > > If no PS/2 mouse shows up, moused has nothing to connect to. Maybe > resetting (power-cycling) the KVM switch helps? > > > > > Then i dropped in your four line into /etc/rc.conf and rebooted. > > A few lines before the prompt was the message that "/dev/psm0" > > was not file nor directory. > > Same thing - no device there. > > > > > Suggestions? The kernel on this '09 Dell is from last December. > > I'll rebuild. > > I've been using PS/2 mice with 4.0 GENERIC kernel, so there will > surely be no "bleeding edge" technology needed. :-) > > The psm driver has been part of the GENERIC kernel for years, and > I doubt is has been removed lately... > > > > > I finished upgrading kernel and world on my 2003 Dell. Will > > drop in your 4 lines and see what happened after reboot. > > Also check dmesg. The psm device MUST be found. It should "come through" > the same controller mechanism as the keyboard (atkbdc), so if the > keyboard works, the mouse should, too. > > Oh, just a suggestion: if you can directly connect a mouse, check > if it works. Do NOT connect anything from or to a PS/2 connector > while the system is powered on! PS/2 is NOT hot-pluggable! > This mouse is A USB type. The KVM only has two USM slots, nothing for a PS/2 type anything... I think. Wait. the keyboard is old enough to be PS/2. Trouble is that I can't see back behind the KVM box. The 'user manual' has few diagrams. gary > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 19:22:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E6E106566C for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA878FC1A for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so687510wyf.13 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:22:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.137.199 with SMTP id x7mr5892325wbt.107.1286824961747; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.216.2.14 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:22:41 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: -nTPhKDyqYYrUnZfSK8WbzAxi1w Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Troubles on SATA drives ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:22:44 -0000 Hello, I have a 4drive zfs pool with raidz on FBSD 8 and I accidentally tripped and yanked the sata wires off 2 drives while it was running. I immediately shutdown the server, fixed the wiring and re-started the server. Incredibly I ran zpool status and zpool scrub and only 8 files were damaged. I removed them and recovered from backup. I cleared the errors on the pool but I keep getting errors on the 4 drives. I am by no means a ZFS expert so all I have tried is: - zpool status - zpool scrub - dlete and restore files - zpool scrub - zpool clear Everything Ok and then I get ZFS-80008A again :-( My questions: 1) Would damage to the 2 disks cause damae on the other 2? 2) Is there a utility in FBSD to check the physical drive itself and mark any bad sectors as such? 3) Can all this be doen directly from ZFS commands, etc? Fortunatelly my FBSD system lives in a start-up IDE drive so I can un-mount the pool and run any utilities over the drives. Thanks in advance for any help! Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 19:32:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E101065674 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523C88FC16 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:32:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-73-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.73.80]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89BBE3D815; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:32:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o9BJWGpC001864; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:32:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:32:16 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20101011213216.0d19ed70.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20101011191443.GA5223@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101011181438.GA5076@thought.org> <20101011202741.9e107460.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101011191443.GA5223@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:32:20 -0000 On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:14:43 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > This mouse is A USB type. Okay, in THAT case, the system should recognize a USB mouse, as /dev/ums. Check # dmesg | grep ums if a mouse is present. Then # usbdevs -v should also report it. Additionally, there's no need to employ moused for a USB mouse as this kind is automatically set up by the USB subsystem (which uses moused for that purpose, I think). > The KVM only has two USM slots, > nothing for a PS/2 type anything... I think. Wait. the keyboard > is old enough to be PS/2. Trouble is that I can't see back > behind the KVM box. Just for understanding: You are connecting a USB mouse and a PS/2 keyboard to the KVM switch. The switch then connects to various systems, by a PS/2 plug (keyboard connector) and a USB plug (mouse connector). Additionally, a cable for the monitor is used. Is that correct? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 19:49:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB452106566B for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:49:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7F98FC08 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:49:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4C1CDE81F96; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:49:07 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20101011194907.GB5223@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101011181438.GA5076@thought.org> <20101011202741.9e107460.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101011191443.GA5223@thought.org> <20101011213216.0d19ed70.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101011213216.0d19ed70.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:49:17 -0000 On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 09:32:16PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:14:43 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > This mouse is A USB type. > > Okay, in THAT case, the system should recognize a USB mouse, > as /dev/ums. Check > > # dmesg | grep ums > > if a mouse is present. Then > > # usbdevs -v > > should also report it. > > Additionally, there's no need to employ moused for a USB mouse > as this kind is automatically set up by the USB subsystem (which > uses moused for that purpose, I think). > > > > > The KVM only has two USM slots, > > nothing for a PS/2 type anything... I think. Wait. the keyboard > > is old enough to be PS/2. Trouble is that I can't see back > > behind the KVM box. > > Just for understanding: You are connecting a USB mouse and a PS/2 > keyboard to the KVM switch. The switch then connects to various > systems, by a PS/2 plug (keyboard connector) and a USB plug (mouse > connector). Additionally, a cable for the monitor is used. Is that > correct? > > Essentially; but using PS/2 -> USB adaptors ... . I got a reply from grepping ums and a truckload from usbdev -s. Copied to my `posit' notes or whatever: ethic# dmesg | grep ums ums0: on uhub4 ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir. ethic# > I was able to balanced anf get forward enough to see what my friend did. The keyboard *is* a PS/2; it is plugged into a new adaptor that plugs into the USM slot. The (`Logitech') mouse is already a USB and plugs nto the second USB slot/jack on the KVM. As noted, things are happy on my linux desktop, but not on my FBSD boxen. Any ideas how to rebuild things to the new USB protocol? gary > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 20:06:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18FF6106566B for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:06:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9D28FC19 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-73-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.73.80]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7CB3C8B2; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:06:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o9BK6D4w001989; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:06:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:06:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Alejandro Imass Message-Id: <20101011220613.aa881ec2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Troubles on SATA drives ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:06:16 -0000 On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:22:41 -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: > 2) Is there a utility in FBSD to check the physical drive itself and > mark any bad sectors as such? There is smartctl in port smartmontools, and badsect provided by the system. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 20:11:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54EC01065670 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:11:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E732E8FC15 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13so556195wwb.31 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:11:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.165.77 with SMTP id d55mr5810711wel.23.1286827893585; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.216.2.14 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:11:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101011220613.aa881ec2.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20101011220613.aa881ec2.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:11:33 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: CR5VwfRBFuLyvjNFOWl_SjPUlNI Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Troubles on SATA drives ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:11:35 -0000 On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:22:41 -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: >> 2) Is there a utility in FBSD to check the physical drive itself and >> mark any bad sectors as such? > > There is smartctl in port smartmontools, > and badsect provided by the system. > Thanks! Let me RTFM and post my results! Alex > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 20:16:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D268106566B for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:16:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5941B8FC14 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-73-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.73.80]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8753D16B; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:16:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o9BKG9Fx002021; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:16:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:16:09 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20101011221609.b2cff60e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20101011194907.GB5223@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101011181438.GA5076@thought.org> <20101011202741.9e107460.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101011191443.GA5223@thought.org> <20101011213216.0d19ed70.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101011194907.GB5223@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:16:11 -0000 On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:49:07 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > I got a reply from grepping ums and a truckload from usbdev -s. > Copied to my `posit' notes or whatever: > > > ethic# dmesg | grep ums > ums0: on uhub4 > ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir. > ethic# The mouse is detected. Good. A problem that now comes to my mind is that switching from / to the "ethic" machine might confuse the USB subsystem, as a device disappears and later appears. Although USB is capable of hot plug, the USB subsystem might not be able to pick up the mouse correctly. You could try: # moused -d -f -p /dev/ums0 -t auto Then debugging messages should appear on the console, and a moving mouse cursor should be visible. > I was able to balanced anf get forward enough to see what my > friend did. The keyboard *is* a PS/2; it is plugged into a new > adaptor that plugs into the USM slot. The (`Logitech') mouse is > already a USB and plugs nto the second USB slot/jack on the KVM. So it's a "pure USB" solution for the mouse - should be no problem. > As noted, things are happy on my linux desktop, but not on my > FBSD boxen. Any ideas how to rebuild things to the new USB > protocol? Which "new" protocol? USB 3.0 for the three buttons? :-) No, honestly: I think the problem is somewhere in the interaction of the KVM switch and the FreeBSD USB subsystem which has influence on how moused handles the mouse. Can you check "forcing the mouse on" as described above? If it is present in dmesg (from boot time on, and NOT switched away and on again), and also listed in the current state per usbdevs command, it should be picked up. As far as I understood in regards of X, there is a) X using the mouse provided through moused, or b) X detecting it "itself" by HAL and DBUS. Do you use HAL and DBUS with X? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 20:48:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582CA106566C for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129258FC0C for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe42 with SMTP id 42so1005649yxe.13 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:48:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OyF0C1wQwwyCCAVM3Wz08wipYeWe2C2ZOnZSoUGxrfM=; b=bOvvbzc8oOLQ2c6k3VMRJ+PXy/93ba8+C2BVoSHwCz+0r36pAg8cs5ZiZsSfTF93eK IUQe/qEhzZZc/mVgQ4Qo8G8M9YTSpsa+lOU2kMdVLyDrvkwbLsCMGJeeDJufy3ZRkJ6I x9yJ+wJyfbO/muHdAWLjSmutbO86mDCodwh5A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sb1DUqBY0AtHRjIYsCcySkWeu3zdplmfJethgZrEi3ZUZsGdoPhOlJBf5deiQ/pki6 DmaHWh6lRbqXHh/fkOqud1TfqnOfLG041bZUYJ2houePE4/HCdjsoxdfBzV/ArIKQugS 06jkc8XsD2CFJfAr5r4pNs5fopY4+9ZK+JRGk= Received: by 10.236.95.162 with SMTP id p22mr12631939yhf.97.1286830123832; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:48:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.178.1 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:40:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100930152450.GA91136@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100930152450.GA91136@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> From: Paul B Mahol Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:40:38 +0000 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: pgt driver for Intersil PRISM ISL3890 cardbus wireless? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:48:46 -0000 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Anton Shterenlikht w= rote: > I've this wireless cardbus card: > > none2@pci0:3:0:0: =A0 =A0 =A0 class=3D0x028000 card=3D0x00001260 chip=3D0= x38901260 rev=3D0x01 > hdr=3D0x00 > =A0 =A0vendor =A0 =A0 =3D 'Intersil Americas Inc (Was: Harris Semiconduct= or)' > =A0 =A0device =A0 =A0 =3D 'PRISM GT 802.11g 54Mbps Wireless Controller (I= SL3890)' > =A0 =A0class =A0 =A0 =A0=3D network > > I can't seem to find a driver for it. > > This page > http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=3Dpgt > > suggests that pgt driver supports it. It claims > the driver was ported to OBSD from FBSD, os it > probably existed at some point? Perhaps it was > removed at some point. I can't trace it. > > Can anybody suggest another driver which might > support this card? > > many thanks > anton Hmm, I can only find dead port: net/p54u (for USB) Perhaps porting from OpenBSD is possible. For fast road try NDISulator (pcmcia support appears to be broken....) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 20:56:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C09106566B for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:56:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096368FC12 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:56:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (ethic.thought.org [10.47.0.230]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o9BKuAqo003522; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:56:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 kline@thought.org; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:56:10 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20101011205610.GA3261@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101011181438.GA5076@thought.org> <20101011202741.9e107460.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101011191443.GA5223@thought.org> <20101011213216.0d19ed70.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101011194907.GB5223@thought.org> <20101011221609.b2cff60e.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101011221609.b2cff60e.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:56:21 -0000 On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:16:09PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:49:07 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > I got a reply from grepping ums and a truckload from usbdev -s. > > Copied to my `posit' notes or whatever: > > > > > > ethic# dmesg | grep ums > > ums0: on uhub4 > > ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir. > > ethic# > > The mouse is detected. Good. > > A problem that now comes to my mind is that switching from / to > the "ethic" machine might confuse the USB subsystem, as a device > disappears and later appears. Although USB is capable of hot plug, > the USB subsystem might not be able to pick up the mouse correctly. > > You could try: > > # moused -d -f -p /dev/ums0 -t auto > > Then debugging messages should appear on the console, and a moving > mouse cursor should be visible. > i tried this remove on _this_ console; then buttoned over to `ethic' [server], killed the moused that was running. Indeed it was /dev/ums0! But the mouse was frozen, and afer I killed it, gone. Then I tried your line and got the data stream. But there was no mouse. ... > > > > I was able to balanced anf get forward enough to see what my > > friend did. The keyboard *is* a PS/2; it is plugged into a new > > adaptor that plugs into the USM slot. The (`Logitech') mouse is > > already a USB and plugs nto the second USB slot/jack on the KVM. > > So it's a "pure USB" solution for the mouse - should be no problem. > > > > > As noted, things are happy on my linux desktop, but not on my > > FBSD boxen. Any ideas how to rebuild things to the new USB > > protocol? > > Which "new" protocol? USB 3.0 for the three buttons? :-) There are two buttons and the mouse "wheel"; I have no clue what's next. Clearly, my 7.2.X sees the mouse. But when I typed simply # startx the windows are there; the mouse cursor hangs, dead-center. > > No, honestly: I think the problem is somewhere in the interaction > of the KVM switch and the FreeBSD USB subsystem which has influence > on how moused handles the mouse. > > Can you check "forcing the mouse on" as described above? If it is > present in dmesg (from boot time on, and NOT switched away and on > again), and also listed in the current state per usbdevs command, > it should be picked up. > > As far as I understood in regards of X, there is > > a) X using the mouse provided through moused, or > > b) X detecting it "itself" by HAL and DBUS. > > Do you use HAL and DBUS with X? > Dunno; I do have hal and dbus there; that's about all I can say. Do I check with ps -ax | egrep "hal|dbus"? gary > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 21:13:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2236106566C for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:13:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3778FC0A for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-73-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.73.80]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152A13D0D0; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 23:13:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o9BLDKn0002178; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 23:13:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 23:13:20 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20101011231320.743975fc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20101011205610.GA3261@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101011181438.GA5076@thought.org> <20101011202741.9e107460.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101011191443.GA5223@thought.org> <20101011213216.0d19ed70.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101011194907.GB5223@thought.org> <20101011221609.b2cff60e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101011205610.GA3261@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:13:23 -0000 On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:56:10 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > i tried this remove on _this_ console; then buttoned over to > `ethic' [server], killed the moused that was running. Indeed it > was /dev/ums0! But the mouse was frozen, and afer I killed it, > gone. It seems that disconnect / reconnect (performed by the KVM switch) causes some problems. > Then I tried your line and got the data stream. But > there was no mouse. ... But if you moved the mouse, status messages appeared? Remove the -d option and try # moused -f -p /dev/ums0 -t auto Now a mouse cursor should be present in text mode. > There are two buttons and the mouse "wheel"; I have no clue what's > next. I'm using such mice (with wheel) since FreeBSD 5.0, so there should be sufficient support if the mouse it not "broken by design". > Clearly, my 7.2.X sees the mouse. But when I typed simply > > # startx > > the windows are there; the mouse cursor hangs, dead-center. If you've tried the moused example above - and it WORKS, remove the -f option. # moused -p /dev/ums0 -t auto It should then become a daemon. Right after that, run # startx and X should use the mouse access provided by moused - unless, of course, there's HAL and DBUS trouble ahead. > Dunno; I do have hal and dbus there; that's about all I > can say. Do I check with ps -ax | egrep "hal|dbus"? If it was THAT obvious... :-) Check # grep "hal" /etc/rc.conf # grep "dbus" /etc/rc.conf to see if they are enabled. You should also have hal-x.y.z and dbus-x.y.z packages installed. If you installed X from package or used the port with default options, it relies on their presence. That's nothing bad per se, especially if you're using KDE, Gnome or Xfce, those seem to run better with HAL and DBUS, especially all the autodetection and automount stuff. If you intendedly do NOT want to use that, you can code AAD in your xorg.conf (you need to have one for that). There's a section in the handbook covering that topic: 5.4 X11 Configuration http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-config.html Especially see 5.4.2. Also don't miss http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html And maybe http://www.kite.ping.de/xorg-hal-migration.html This should give sufficient information to find out what is the best solution for your setting. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 21:57:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6840B106564A for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:57:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F958FC08 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:57:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 84B54E81F96; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:57:28 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20101011215728.GA5656@thought.org> References: <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101011181438.GA5076@thought.org> <20101011202741.9e107460.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101011191443.GA5223@thought.org> <20101011213216.0d19ed70.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101011194907.GB5223@thought.org> <20101011221609.b2cff60e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101011205610.GA3261@thought.org> <20101011231320.743975fc.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101011231320.743975fc.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:57:43 -0000 On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 11:13:20PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:56:10 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > i tried this remove on _this_ console; then buttoned over to > > `ethic' [server], killed the moused that was running. Indeed it > > was /dev/ums0! But the mouse was frozen, and afer I killed it, > > gone. > > It seems that disconnect / reconnect (performed by the KVM switch) > causes some problems. > > > > > Then I tried your line and got the data stream. But > > there was no mouse. ... > > But if you moved the mouse, status messages appeared? Remove the > -d option and try > > # moused -f -p /dev/ums0 -t auto > > Now a mouse cursor should be present in text mode. > > > > > There are two buttons and the mouse "wheel"; I have no clue what's > > next. > > I'm using such mice (with wheel) since FreeBSD 5.0, so there should > be sufficient support if the mouse it not "broken by design". > > > > > Clearly, my 7.2.X sees the mouse. But when I typed simply > > > > # startx > > > > the windows are there; the mouse cursor hangs, dead-center. > > If you've tried the moused example above - and it WORKS, remove > the -f option. > > # moused -p /dev/ums0 -t auto > > It should then become a daemon. Right after that, run > > # startx > > and X should use the mouse access provided by moused - unless, of > course, there's HAL and DBUS trouble ahead. > > > > > Dunno; I do have hal and dbus there; that's about all I > > can say. Do I check with ps -ax | egrep "hal|dbus"? > > If it was THAT obvious... :-) > > Check > > # grep "hal" /etc/rc.conf > # grep "dbus" /etc/rc.conf > > to see if they are enabled. You should also have hal-x.y.z and > dbus-x.y.z packages installed. If you installed X from package or used > the port with default options, it relies on their presence. That's > nothing bad per se, especially if you're using KDE, Gnome or Xfce, > those seem to run better with HAL and DBUS, especially all the > autodetection and automount stuff. If you intendedly do NOT want > to use that, you can code AAD in your xorg.conf (you need to have > one for that). > > There's a section in the handbook covering that topic: > > 5.4 X11 Configuration > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-config.html > > Especially see 5.4.2. Also don't miss > > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html > > And maybe > > http://www.kite.ping.de/xorg-hal-migration.html > > This should give sufficient information to find out what is the best > solution for your setting. > I thank you sincerely. I will try one last thing before I abandon my post: namely, to try a hard reset of the KVM switch. If nothing, then it is over my head. I'll vheck the site mentioned, who knows? gary PS: to the list: if this has happened to anyone else onlist, i would like to hear about it. I bought a Belkin circa '05 and it worked flalessly gor years ... until something burned out! > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 00:29:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FAC106566C for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 00:29:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD218FC12 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 00:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (ethic.thought.org [10.47.0.230]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o9C0TFtT001542 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:29:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 kline@thought.org; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:29:15 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20101012002913.GA1537@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, TVD_SPACE_RATIO,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Subject: a X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 00:29:19 -0000 -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 00:53:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B461065670 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 00:53:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6581C8FC16 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 00:53:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (ethic.thought.org [10.47.0.230]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o9C0rB5k001289; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:53:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 kline@thought.org; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:53:11 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20101012005311.GA1271@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Subject: does anybody understand why install failed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 00:53:15 -0000 Having netwoking problems... . hope this gets out. ===> sys/boot/i386/loader (install) install -o root -g wheel -m 555 -b loader /boot/loader install -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/../../forth/loader.conf /boot/defaults/loader.conf install -o root -g wheel -m 444 loader.help /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/../../forth/loader.4th /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/../../forth/support.4th /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/../../forth/screen.4th /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/../../forth/frames.4th /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/../../forth/beastie.4th /boot install -o root -g wheel -m 444 loader.conf.5.gz /usr/share/man/man5 install -o root -g wheel -m 444 loader.4th.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 install -o root -g wheel -m 444 loader.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> sys/boot/i386/pxeldr (install) install -o root -g wheel -m 444 pxeboot /boot install -o root -g wheel -m 444 pxeboot.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> sys/boot/i386/zfsboot (install) btxld -v -E 0x2000 -f bin -b /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/zfsboot/../btx/btx/btx -l zfsboot.ldr -o zfsboot.ld -P 1 zfsboot.bin btxld:No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/zfsboot. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 01:02:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7081065674 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 01:02:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE708FC1E for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 01:02:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-73-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.73.80]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCD41EB09; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 03:02:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o9C12Out003944; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 03:02:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 03:02:24 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20101012030224.465bc805.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20101012005311.GA1271@thought.org> References: <20101012005311.GA1271@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: does anybody understand why install failed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 01:02:27 -0000 On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:53:11 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > Having netwoking problems... . hope this gets out. It does. The problem seems to appear when installing the ZFS boot loader. > ===> sys/boot/i386/zfsboot (install) > btxld -v -E 0x2000 -f bin -b /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/zfsboot/../btx/btx/btx -l zfsboot.ldr -o zfsboot.ld -P 1 zfsboot.bin > btxld:No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/zfsboot. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. Are you performing the "make install" stage in single user mode as recommended? The btxld binary is /usr/sbin/btxld. If you're not using ZFS on your system, you can easily omit it by setting WITHOUT_ZFS=1 in /etc/src.conf; refer to "man src.conf" for more details about the system's building control file, as there may be other things you intendedly want to switch off. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 01:02:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABC7106564A for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 01:02:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from indexer@internode.on.net) Received: from mail.internode.on.net (bld-mail17.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942618FC13 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 01:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from staff-249-86.wireless.adelaide.edu.au (unverified [129.127.249.86]) by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id 42129669-1927428 for multiple; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:17:40 +1030 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Indexer In-Reply-To: <20101012002913.GA1537@thought.org> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:17:35 +1030 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20101012002913.GA1537@thought.org> To: Gary Kline X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.2.3 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: a X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 01:02:54 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 b On 12/10/2010, at 10:59 AM, Gary Kline wrote: >=20 > --=20 > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service = Unix > The 7.90a release of Jottings: = http://jottings.thought.org/index.php > http://journey.thought.org >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" William Brown pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMs7AqAAoJEHF16AnLoz6JK4gP/0y9QkO6IXBPh3cj+HWYLoJh FJJTS/wcL3TaJZLqU515oG8KPPHvTiVn9DwYuVDIpD2KYoNn7vPWoNIsWhEYBJi6 m1nBskgC2cRdFOWGBFm6m4K3kQsLqolhLP4gmlGEomZnYEb/0SewlA/eiXVVVerE a3g27p70LhAuKIMF6xlddvwPB867boJUABtPZi7yDq36S2uqOWQNp9LI38GThX44 ND/AMFrLR4mZ1xmO/qyLtAs7NkU3wYPEVcELlIv62o4vZ9ytzJlSGwM5mmah6oHZ ItPmROT0YnpsVT6eyfZMWLm885ejZP0JGTuBp/S4EFZeLmWXwjAAR3aX14D/sv5E nKIn1N6omk54utj6BY4y6HLGTbVEqLMnNaSqLiOrrk+9Exsn22sUzvOM0H2eDNCr bTThYw6r8dA6qkZWkyJP4gEomHVL7ybTxDOEi6IpQLHPl30aj0197sD63DeXkimU +IC7uFedlO9PVyZdudijYHiMHbVda4AJWFkq/cretcTjfYpz5B5cVJms/Mt5jSVD W5fi3O41W315JQR/htap+20zriiJmg7TGXyJwD+cusuluCycFjUw59Ngq/fUqUZF pzNkZimnfcAloSfrqIW5nWDfZDHOyWaaB4bueuV/l2ZTOOz4/uD9JrusHtgkLhBE 3WVZpRcN55LU/qcyjojj =3D9eXZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 01:27:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5200A106566B for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 01:27:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230288FC08 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 01:27:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 42AC5E82405; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:27:50 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20101012012750.GA3216@thought.org> References: <20101012005311.GA1271@thought.org> <20101012030224.465bc805.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101012030224.465bc805.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: does anybody understand why install failed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 01:27:51 -0000 On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 03:02:24AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:53:11 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > Having netwoking problems... . hope this gets out. > > It does. > > > The problem seems to appear when installing the ZFS boot loader. Which is? I don't think I chose any boot loader when I installed this last November... glad this got out! (I *do* have a base arrow on the console, but w hen I bring up my old ctwm wm, the arrow is still frozen. [This is on ethic; the stuff below is on my old desktop, tao. Nice to have at least one spare to experiment with.] > > > ===> sys/boot/i386/zfsboot (install) > > btxld -v -E 0x2000 -f bin -b /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/zfsboot/../btx/btx/btx -l zfsboot.ldr -o zfsboot.ld -P 1 zfsboot.bin > > btxld:No such file or directory > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/zfsboot. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sys. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > Are you performing the "make install" stage in single user mode > as recommended? The btxld binary is /usr/sbin/btxld. > > If you're not using ZFS on your system, you can easily omit it > by setting > > WITHOUT_ZFS=1 > > in /etc/src.conf; refer to "man src.conf" for more details about > the system's building control file, as there may be other things > you intendedly want to switch off. > I'll ck out the src.conf; never heard of it... thanks for the clue. > Mm. I'm using very, very old instructions. I used this last Feb, but it dates from March, '04! :: cd /usr/src; \ make buildworld; make buildkernel KERNCONF=TAO; make installkernel KERNCONF=TAO; reboot ; then go single cd /usr/src; \ make installworld; mergemaster reboot > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 01:36:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC4C106564A for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 01:36:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6578FC1A for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 01:36:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-73-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.73.80]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4931EFAF; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 03:36:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o9C1aDuH004379; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 03:36:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 03:36:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20101012033613.ac0b1c84.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20101012012750.GA3216@thought.org> References: <20101012005311.GA1271@thought.org> <20101012030224.465bc805.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101012012750.GA3216@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: does anybody understand why install failed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 01:36:15 -0000 On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:27:50 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 03:02:24AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:53:11 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > Having netwoking problems... . hope this gets out. > > > > It does. > > > > > > The problem seems to appear when installing the ZFS boot loader. > > > Which is? I don't think I chose any boot loader when I > installed this last November... It seems to be part of the default installation now (until you set ZFS component NOT to build per src.conf). Prior to a new try, remove /usr/obj/ or "make clean", just to be sure not to suffer from anything accidentally left there. > glad this got out! (I *do* have a base arrow on the console, > but w hen I bring up my old ctwm wm, the arrow is still frozen. > [This is on ethic; the stuff below is on my old desktop, tao. > Nice to have at least one spare to experiment with.] Uh... "make installworld" should take place in single-user mode, where the system is running on "minimal level". Check the comment header of /usr/src/Makefile for a short description of the process. > I'll ck out the src.conf; never heard of it... thanks for the > clue. It is "quite new", I think it was introduced in version 7 to have a central file for configuring the system's build and installation process, separated from the system-wide make.conf. > Mm. I'm using very, very old instructions. I used this last > Feb, but it dates from March, '04! :: > > > cd /usr/src; \ > make buildworld; make buildkernel KERNCONF=TAO; make installkernel KERNCONF=TAO; > > reboot ; then go single > cd /usr/src; \ > make installworld; > mergemaster > reboot Seems that one mergemaster step is missing. Let me quote from /usr/src/Makefile of version 7 (on 8 it should be similar): # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # [steps 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] # 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' # 8. `make delete-old' # 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -U or -ai). # 10. `reboot' # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) It's always wise to study the source of what one is working with. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 07:43:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A038106566C for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 07:43:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9EE28FC0A for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 07:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o9C7hhev084365; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:43:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:43:43 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20101007 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 07:43:46 -0000 On 10/11/10 18:31, Polytropon wrote: [snip] > The psm device can be configured per /etc/rc.conf using moused. > While USB mice get configured by the USB subsystem automatically, > PS/2 and serial mice do not. > > Here's an example entry: > > moused_enable="YES" > moused_port="/dev/psm0" > moused_flags="-z 4" > moused_type="auto" I'm not sure that bit about PS/2 mice not being configured automatically is true. I run 8.1-RELEASE-p1 on amd64 with a PS/2 mouse and my /etc/rc.conf contains moused_enable="NO" moused_nondefault_enable="NO" moused_type="NO" and X has no problem seeing the mouse. OK, I don't have a mouse in console mode, but that's a personal foible of mine. (Well, ASR33s didn't have mice did they? :-) -- "Although the wombat is real and the dragon is not, few know what a wombat looks like, but everyone knows what a dragon looks like." -- Avram Davidson, _Adventures in Unhistory_ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 08:15:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC2E106564A; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:15:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpagnoni@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C928FC0C; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:15:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so5868852iwn.13 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 01:15:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wET4vNcPIYjgt9DJofD48u3OwaaiBYqVezrNFScJrC8=; b=BwWaaFVOcuS3deGOoMV2GAeatqXau83+J2tNMJuNqCdvRkX0OHTACfY+PA1hiAolWD GtkQjE90vahQvv3uteoNjKxR4q1XXxUP26+CMbk3WtPylSW2UeAHjEoKdkd2V7oDUnF1 Pnun4hFrT43H4R4trs8dHFIN9MdgtZs0pazPc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kKa9lB0dw1rOOfSNo6xDyVJP1RsA57upZ8QZYx6wlRuUUMtJ3tT0CaqqVuGn5ZXm1f L0OubZZLGmt5zNwlRo7h3lV757cTgP18Edr6oWMs8rhb4McG4/mu5C3pYHcXLJu52zGW +6MrJ6SJ87oWNuZkPUsd10l0cidM9o4lIP2hc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.7.68 with SMTP id d4mr2234023icd.36.1286871345401; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 01:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.147.138 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 01:15:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101011164312.GC80560@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> References: <20101011164312.GC80560@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 10:15:45 +0200 Message-ID: From: Giuseppe Pagnoni To: Giuseppe Pagnoni , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Xorg 7.5 and OpenMotif: mouse stuck in box X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:15:46 -0000 Dear William, excellent! The patch you pointed me to works for me too. Thank you so much for your help, I am going to send an email to the port maintainers to see whether they can fix this in the ports tree. very best giuseppe On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 6:43 PM, William Bulley wrote: > According to Giuseppe Pagnoni on Mon, 10/11/10 at 10= :57: >> >> thank you very much for your reply, it does seem to be the same type >> of bug. =A0However, and I apologize for being dense here, it is not >> immediate to me how to proceed practically to apply the patch from >> within the ports framework. =A0Also, I still wonder why the patch hasn't >> been incorporated in the tree given that the bug is known.... > > I am not able to answer your final question - that is left to the ports > maintainers to address. > > I simply installed the latest (was it 1.7.5) xorg-server at that time > and added those half dozen patches. =A0If 1.7.7 solved the problem, then > I'm not sure what issue(s) you have. =A0If you want to have FreeBSD ports > upgraded, I would contact the port's maintainers directly. > > I chose not to install xorg-server 1.7.7 since I was unsure if there > were other dependencies or issues that might arise from doing so. =A0I'm > not used to "patch"ing a mature, released port, so for me even that was > a leap of faith! =A0:-) > > Just for clarity, I did not formally "patch" this port (xorg-server). > I went into the directory tree beneath the "work" directory, found the > dit/events.c file, and made those above mentioned (about six or so) > small source code patches. =A0I then re-made the port and re-installed > the port. =A0After it tested successfully, I reported my results to the > -questions list in case it would help others. =A0YMMV. =A0And good luck! > > Regards, > > web... > > -- > William Bulley =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Email: web@umich.e= du > > 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| > --=20 Giuseppe Pagnoni Dip. Scienze Biomediche Sezione Fisiologia Univ. di Modena e Reggio Emilia Via Campi 287 I-41125 Modena, Italy Tel: +39-059-205-5742 Fax: +39-059-205-5336 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 09:59:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE05106566C for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:59:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1245F8FC0A for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:59:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P5beB-0003NX-Lh for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:59:51 +0200 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:59:51 +0200 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:59:51 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:59:58 +0200 Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100518 Thunderbird/3.0.4 In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Subject: Re: Troubles on SATA drives ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:59:55 -0000 On 10/11/10 21:22, Alejandro Imass wrote: > 1) Would damage to the 2 disks cause damae on the other 2? Not likely but in your situation it might damage the controller, in which nothing you do to the drives will help. In the worst case, the controller then might in turn damage the drives. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 11:40:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D401065672 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83228FC14 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:40:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.43]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E517B335 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 07:39:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.213]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 12 Oct 2010 07:39:59 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:references:subject:in-reply-to:date; s=smtpout; bh=30dmaTsA4/9KuxtFM9D7SM58iDs=; b=nXfrl9pSZTAS5APUzzleerxfkDLSMoCgdpVzixNLIeSDn5rZmjeK+Znq2DBN+Jo4H/zO+yp5tKygAAkjyQbKCfKTHqTcLdq2xZhnMOg0WU3g1G/kLALyiQ5kOZHF0PFcd/1Xj4ZWiQrulBejgMVhtdKW7ZUrwMZZxvzQInCtR4E= Received: by web3.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id C4594F80761; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 07:39:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1286883599.2865.1399617949@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: FYr0qeEq+EM/QHsd5LO9ELpKErS6DO6z94VsgrweIcil 1286883599 From: "Jud" To: "freebsd-questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface References: <20101009175535.GA1567@hogwarts.local> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 07:39:59 -0400 Subject: FBSD on MacBook Pro w/ Core 2 Duo? (was Re: Which OS for notebook) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:40:01 -0000 On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:20 -0500, "Brandon Gooch" wrote: > On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Arvid Warnecke > wrote: > > I have been thinking about FreeBSD on the Macbook Pro dual booting (I > > need Mac OSX for photography software), but I am not sure if the > > hardware will be supported that well. > > Here's an excellent place to start your research: > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleMacbook I'd posted a question about this to this list a couple of weeks ago, but without a descriptive title. Apologies for that, and hoping a more descriptive title plus a more detailed message on my part elicits more specific answers. I've got a 13" MacBook Pro, version 5,5 specifically, with an Intel Core 2 Duo CPU and 4GB RAM (and a 256GB SSD, though I'm reasonably sure that's not problematic). I'm dual booting Mac OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.4 and Win 7 64-bit using rEFIt. I want to install FreeBSD as a 3rd OS alongside OS X and Win. Here are a couple of questions that arose during my research: - I'd like to run a 64-bit version of FreeBSD. My reading on the FreeBSD website appears to indicate that the correct 64-bit version for the Core 2 Duo would be ia-64, and IIRC the website references indicated problems running X.Org on that platform. Additionally, problems are mentioned with various (unnamed) other ports. I do want to use FreeBSD as a desktop. Is the info about problems with X.Org and other ports on ia-64 current and correct, ruling out its use as a desktop on the MacBook Pro for now? Am I correct in thinking from what I've read that the amd-64 version of FreeBSD would not work with the Core 2 Duo? Does this leave 32-bit FreeBSD as the only version I could reasonably install to use as a desktop on this machine? - If I follow the plain install instructions on the wiki page linked in the quoted message above (after first making space for FreeBSD using the Mac OS X disk utility), will rEFIt Just Work, i.e., recognize FreeBSD and include it as an option in its boot menu? Or is there something else I've got to do? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on these questions. Comments on other 'gotcha' items I may have missed are also welcome. Jud -- "I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day." - Douglas Adams From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 12:47:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3DB106566B for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:47:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E0E8FC12 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:47:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o9CCl9x2013092 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:47:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk o9CCl9x2013092 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1286887630; bh=27EsyiEQKs43JuQm8Lasj9Gvsz5HimNPb5dIyQn4p8A=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4CB458C7.2070605@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T ue,=2012=20Oct=202010=2013:47:03=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac= 20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-GB=3B=20rv:1.9.2.9)=20Gecko/20100915=20Thu nderbird/3.1.4|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Jud=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions=20|Subje ct:=20Re:=20FBSD=20on=20MacBook=20Pro=20w/=20Core=202=20Duo?=20(wa s=20Re:=20Which=20OS=20for=20notebook)|References:=20<20101009175535 .GA1567@hogwarts.local>=09=20<1286883599.2865.1399617949@webmail.messa gingengine.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<1286883599.2865.1399617949@webmail .messagingengine.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.1.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D 60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3 B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20bounda ry=3D"------------enig54DA226358383979A32AA0FB"; b=rNaMXDnJD45RrG/hogHgR0kDfEBZe3nv1pOJ99EChzZOchO9ew57TDyZeP4q5UCID 8envexvsAczuVn9CokdPp2huMuzwpmuF91/fvgXBelRzvMLCT2uT77Jr+g+UZfz3dC un5j/3rqMU/zPmVLfpJgzhrmiogCM7+Mj6KbSTZQ= Message-ID: <4CB458C7.2070605@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:47:03 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jud References: <20101009175535.GA1567@hogwarts.local> <1286883599.2865.1399617949@webmail.messagingengine.com> In-Reply-To: <1286883599.2865.1399617949@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig54DA226358383979A32AA0FB" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: FBSD on MacBook Pro w/ Core 2 Duo? (was Re: Which OS for notebook) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:47:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig54DA226358383979A32AA0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/10/2010 12:39:59, Jud wrote: > My reading on the > FreeBSD website appears to indicate that the correct 64-bit version for= > the Core 2 Duo would be ia-64 Wrong. amd64 Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig54DA226358383979A32AA0FB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAky0WM0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzjygCdFh/7U4sU0DI0PgPuH6ijcaBF vJkAnj7G1JJ4+wbUBbUzSqghhLVFTDRF =opOT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig54DA226358383979A32AA0FB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 12:55:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF9B1065673 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:55:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvidican@m2.vidican.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A952E8FC17 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:55:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13so1316648wwb.31 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 05:55:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.12.139 with SMTP id 11mr6691651wez.63.1286888123209; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 05:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Sender: nvidican@m2.vidican.com Received: by 10.216.184.212 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 05:55:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [136.1.1.105] In-Reply-To: <1286883599.2865.1399617949@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <20101009175535.GA1567@hogwarts.local> <1286883599.2865.1399617949@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:55:23 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: QdLuIeeJdZm-15iagcwxPq7AuM0 Message-ID: From: Nathan Vidican To: Jud Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: FBSD on MacBook Pro w/ Core 2 Duo? (was Re: Which OS for notebook) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:55:34 -0000 ia64 is for Intel Itanium - NOT Core 2 Duo. The core 2 duo extends it's 64 bit instructions from the Intel EMT64 extensions. You can read up on this topic further at Wikipedia if you'd like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMT64#Intel_64 To summarize though - AMD64 is the platform you're looking for. Since AMD was first to come to market with an i386 compatible instruction set supporting 64bit addressing, you'll find a lot of systems reference 'amd64' as the platform. On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Jud wrote: > On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:20 -0500, "Brandon Gooch" > wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Arvid Warnecke > > wrote: > > > I have been thinking about FreeBSD on the Macbook Pro dual booting (I > > > need Mac OSX for photography software), but I am not sure if the > > > hardware will be supported that well. > > > > Here's an excellent place to start your research: > > > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleMacbook > > I'd posted a question about this to this list a couple of weeks ago, but > without a descriptive title. Apologies for that, and hoping a more > descriptive title plus a more detailed message on my part elicits more > specific answers. > > I've got a 13" MacBook Pro, version 5,5 specifically, with an Intel Core > 2 Duo CPU and 4GB RAM (and a 256GB SSD, though I'm reasonably sure > that's not problematic). I'm dual booting Mac OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.4 > and Win 7 64-bit using rEFIt. > > I want to install FreeBSD as a 3rd OS alongside OS X and Win. Here are > a couple of questions that arose during my research: > > - I'd like to run a 64-bit version of FreeBSD. My reading on the > FreeBSD website appears to indicate that the correct 64-bit version for > the Core 2 Duo would be ia-64, and IIRC the website references indicated > problems running X.Org on that platform. Additionally, problems are > mentioned with various (unnamed) other ports. I do want to use FreeBSD > as a desktop. Is the info about problems with X.Org and other ports on > ia-64 current and correct, ruling out its use as a desktop on the > MacBook Pro for now? Am I correct in thinking from what I've read that > the amd-64 version of FreeBSD would not work with the Core 2 Duo? Does > this leave 32-bit FreeBSD as the only version I could reasonably install > to use as a desktop on this machine? > > - If I follow the plain install instructions on the wiki page linked in > the quoted message above (after first making space for FreeBSD using the > Mac OS X disk utility), will rEFIt Just Work, i.e., recognize FreeBSD > and include it as an option in its boot menu? Or is there something > else I've got to do? > > Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on these questions. > Comments on other 'gotcha' items I may have missed are also welcome. > > Jud > -- > "I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day." - > Douglas Adams > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Nathan Vidican nathan@vidican.com (519) 962-9987 (Canada) (313) 586-1982 (USA) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 13:16:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5CF1065679 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:16:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79FB18FC29 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o9CDG025005246; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:16:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DDBC6BA98; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:15:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:15:59 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Jud Message-ID: <20101012131559.GA43131@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20101009175535.GA1567@hogwarts.local> <1286883599.2865.1399617949@webmail.messagingengine.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="huq684BweRXVnRxX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1286883599.2865.1399617949@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: FBSD on MacBook Pro w/ Core 2 Duo? (was Re: Which OS for notebook) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:16:05 -0000 --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 07:39:59AM -0400, Jud wrote: > > Here's an excellent place to start your research: > >=20 > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleMacbook > I've got a 13" MacBook Pro, version 5,5 specifically, with an Intel Core > 2 Duo CPU and 4GB RAM (and a 256GB SSD, though I'm reasonably sure > that's not problematic). I'm dual booting Mac OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.4 > and Win 7 64-bit using rEFIt. >=20 > I want to install FreeBSD as a 3rd OS alongside OS X and Win. Here are > a couple of questions that arose during my research: >=20 > - I'd like to run a 64-bit version of FreeBSD. My reading on the > FreeBSD website appears to indicate that the correct 64-bit version for > the Core 2 Duo would be ia-64 No. You should use the amd64 version. This works without problems on my Cor= e2 systems.=20 The IA-64 version is only for the Itanium [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itanium] processors, which never became really popular and are mostly found in HP servers. > - If I follow the plain install instructions on the wiki page linked in > the quoted message above (after first making space for FreeBSD using the > Mac OS X disk utility), will rEFIt Just Work, i.e., recognize FreeBSD > and include it as an option in its boot menu? Or is there something > else I've got to do? Have a look at [http://blogs.freebsdish.org/rpaulo/2008/08/31/freebsd-ia32-efi-boot-loader= /]. Maybe that will work for you? As of 8.1-RELEASE, I don't see the source for this EFI boot in the ia32 boot loader (which amd64 also uses).=20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAky0X48ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVeHgCfWGHPKGY+lJsirpJT+r7hl5vb zWEAnR42lDelm5Ek+/caKT0P67tG2hPG =nwPx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --huq684BweRXVnRxX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 13:30:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D567106564A for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7668FC22 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13so1360997wwb.31 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 06:30:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.185.133 with SMTP id u5mr6765646wem.11.1286890201134; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 06:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.216.2.14 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 06:30:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:30:01 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2MMbQyRSzonBTNOiJ-dVVDew-mQ Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Ivan Voras Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Troubles on SATA drives ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:30:04 -0000 On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 5:59 AM, Ivan Voras wrote: > On 10/11/10 21:22, Alejandro Imass wrote: > >> 1) Would damage to the 2 disks cause damae on the other 2? > > Not likely but in your situation it might damage the controller, in which > nothing you do to the drives will help. In the worst case, the controller > then might in turn damage the drives. > I was under the impression that SATA was not that sensible to hot unplugging, in fact I thought that SATA supports hot pluging, so by yanking the wires out it should not have damaged the disks or the controller IMO. But you might be correct because I use only cheap HW ;-) > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 14:28:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1466106564A for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:28:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D2F8FC18 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwe4 with SMTP id 4so2147946qwe.13 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 07:28:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=xTx/JpsvJsvyiA6HqxO2waXLRtHf4sCs3B72POYw8AY=; b=fGBJ853E97+05KVFrV4LxmSaBbLN6GL0P8txtmokWwILwniIFvows5ZH+eUCUaFDnX 5h8YgtELPgLdOdg8LNPnRFXGI1LDbQYtnp1iycruKPSureCVCWNifWUE8GWl3o1Fu07I uGx73lAq5STl36ZtSOP9FPQg1rQjmvf8GPC+8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; b=QdK4cTMaCSi5HD69MbKseqZXcLXS1UCeEUpIjQg3S5UWTO1pllftTsUsGXg4+T3nG6 lY4kzFFGWLrbvc8aka0UBhO/DDqcrLsQ+mq7xa5Dc6+ZAF20HF5lYmxRD1sMcgvZQ8HM 2O9mufGcepRMN6TUGl4VV0+OjIetCkS0IY8l4= Received: by 10.224.216.71 with SMTP id hh7mr5674535qab.275.1286892361765; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 07:06:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ivoras@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.234.81 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 07:05:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Ivan Voras Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:05:15 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: q4H2gwc9lMosJ17D0Am90v6Tyjc Message-ID: To: Alejandro Imass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Troubles on SATA drives ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:28:22 -0000 On 12 October 2010 15:30, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 5:59 AM, Ivan Voras wrote: >> On 10/11/10 21:22, Alejandro Imass wrote: >> >>> 1) Would damage to the 2 disks cause damae on the other 2? >> >> Not likely but in your situation it might damage the controller, in which >> nothing you do to the drives will help. In the worst case, the controller >> then might in turn damage the drives. >> > > I was under the impression that SATA was not that sensible to hot > unplugging, in fact I thought that SATA supports hot pluging, so by > yanking the wires out it should not have damaged the disks or the > controller IMO. But you might be correct because I use only cheap HW > ;-) The SATA standard does support hot-plugging but it's optional if the hardware (controllers and the drives) support it or not. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 15:38:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102F31065673 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:38:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7A88FC16 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:38:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1P5gvX-000ILb-Qe; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:38:07 +0400 From: Boris Samorodov To: Mikle Krutov References: <20101011185959.GA5900@takino.homeftp.org> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:38:07 +0400 In-Reply-To: <20101011185959.GA5900@takino.homeftp.org> (Mikle Krutov's message of "Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:59:59 +0000") Message-ID: <82193968@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sacred Gold (Linux) on FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:38:10 -0000 On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:59:59 +0000 Mikle Krutov wrote: > Has anyone had a positive experience with subj? > As for me, it loads till the first load-screen state 'Ready' and hangs > there. > Nothing dumps in console. /var/log/messages may give some additional info as well as a terminal window. > Any variant what to try to do? Have you read the FreeBSD Handbook, chapter 10, section 10.2? BTW, output from commands "uname -a", "kldstat | grep linux" and "pkg_info -Ix linux" may be helpful. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 15:48:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CFED1065672 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:48:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0758FC15 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6B147E81FB4; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:48:07 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Arthur Chance Message-ID: <20101012154807.GA3790@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:48:11 -0000 On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 08:43:43AM +0100, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 10/11/10 18:31, Polytropon wrote: > [snip] > >The psm device can be configured per /etc/rc.conf using moused. > >While USB mice get configured by the USB subsystem automatically, > >PS/2 and serial mice do not. > > > >Here's an example entry: > > > > moused_enable="YES" > > moused_port="/dev/psm0" > > moused_flags="-z 4" > > moused_type="auto" > > I'm not sure that bit about PS/2 mice not being configured > automatically is true. I run 8.1-RELEASE-p1 on amd64 with a PS/2 > mouse and my /etc/rc.conf contains > > moused_enable="NO" > moused_nondefault_enable="NO" > moused_type="NO" > > and X has no problem seeing the mouse. OK, I don't have a mouse in > console mode, but that's a personal foible of mine. (Well, ASR33s > didn't have mice did they? :-) I didn't realize how nice a GUI can be until I discovered the xterm! At any rate, my mouse+keyboard are both USB. Still not working with X.... > > -- > "Although the wombat is real and the dragon is not, few know what a > wombat looks like, but everyone knows what a dragon looks like." > > -- Avram Davidson, _Adventures in Unhistory_ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 20:10:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643311065672 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230F58FC1F for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-73-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.73.80]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2535E3D61F; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:10:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o9CKAKgl001510; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:10:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:10:20 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Arthur Chance Message-Id: <20101012221020.1a8dcd90.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:10:23 -0000 On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:43:43 +0100, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 10/11/10 18:31, Polytropon wrote: > [snip] > > The psm device can be configured per /etc/rc.conf using moused. > > While USB mice get configured by the USB subsystem automatically, > > PS/2 and serial mice do not. > > > > Here's an example entry: > > > > moused_enable="YES" > > moused_port="/dev/psm0" > > moused_flags="-z 4" > > moused_type="auto" > > I'm not sure that bit about PS/2 mice not being configured automatically > is true. PS/2 mice usually GET configured automatically, so type=auto is sufficient in MOST cases. In my case (where I took those lines from) I had to specify additional flags to make sure some specific functionality of THAT mouse runs properly. > I run 8.1-RELEASE-p1 on amd64 with a PS/2 mouse and my > /etc/rc.conf contains > > moused_enable="NO" > moused_nondefault_enable="NO" > moused_type="NO" > > and X has no problem seeing the mouse. OK, I don't have a mouse in > console mode, but that's a personal foible of mine. As I mentioned in another message, X should pick up the mouse INDEPENDENTLY from the system (moused), and if my memory serves me, this works both in combination with HAL + DBUS, but should work also without them. The idea of trying to get a mouse pointer in console mode is a means of diagnostics, where "choose lowest level to check" is often the best idea. The fewer components are involved, and the better you can CONTROL those components, the easier it is to check if something works. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 20:15:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64F91065674 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:15:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6670A8FC1B for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:15:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-73-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.73.80]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8FBE3D613 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:15:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o9CKFCkn001537 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:15:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:15:12 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-Id: <20101012221512.193b6841.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20101012154807.GA3790@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> <20101012154807.GA3790@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:15:22 -0000 On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:48:07 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > I didn't realize how nice a GUI can be until I discovered the > xterm! At any rate, my mouse+keyboard are both USB. Still not > working with X.... Then you should check the typical (oh god!) HAL + DBUS trouble. If mouse and keyboard work properly in text mode console, it looks like an X configuration issue. I think this of documentation will be very helpful (at least it was for me - for the attempt of decoupling X from HAL + DBUS, as I do not have any use for them): http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-config.html http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html http://www.kite.ping.de/xorg-hal-migration.html -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 20:56:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 287C7106564A for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:56:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E6B8B8FC12 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 46485 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Oct 2010 20:56:25 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1286916985; bh=qzO6XMxvGRN+zi/GCIpkGR4c2lua/XkJWo1qT+O3pWE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=B59v/6z9OQ1RHNxyHOQWiYsbOIWSBgC0y+vB/LnRqJHp8WnEPif3wlniIFB+JFMOKAK1gfY+VATDDBe5bdc7N5NKrLLRCgtB5ql8F/L3xsBuTmF1tuSY8dujF+Mn/2SfpTxte+Jb1MNygBk1UOrmTF7+8ogh+yx1sb5F2WrKAaU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: dinoex@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vlc install problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:22:11 -0000 D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 writes: > I'm trying to install vlc player on my FreeBSD 8.1 and I always got the=20 > following error: > gmake[3]: *** [gvloadimage_gd.lo] Error 1 > gmake[3]: Leaving directory=20 > `/usr/ports/graphics/graphviz/work/graphviz-2.26.3/plugin/gd' > gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory=20 > `/usr/ports/graphics/graphviz/work/graphviz-2.26.3/plugin' > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/graphviz/work/graphviz-2= .26.3' > gmake: *** [all] Error 2 > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz. > *** Error code 1 > > Do you have any suggestion what should I try? > I want to mention that the ports tree is up to date. You don't go back far enough to show the actual error that kicks things out to the makefile, so all I can tell you is: it works fine for me, so make sure you "make clean" before trying to build graphviz. 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: dinoex@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: vlc install problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:50:35 -0000 It seems to be that is working, thank you!=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________________= ___________=0AFrom: Lowell Gilbert =0ATo: D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 =0ACc: freebsd-q= uestions@freebsd.org; dinoex@FreeBSD.org=0ASent: Tue, October 12, 2010 11:2= 2:06 PM=0ASubject: Re: vlc install problems=0A=0AD=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 writes:=0A=0A> I'm trying to install vlc player o= n my FreeBSD 8.1 and I always got the =0A> following error:=0A> gmake[3]: *= ** [gvloadimage_gd.lo] Error 1=0A> gmake[3]: Leaving directory =0A> `/usr/p= orts/graphics/graphviz/work/graphviz-2.26.3/plugin/gd'=0A> gmake[2]: *** [a= ll-recursive] Error 1=0A> gmake[2]: Leaving directory =0A> `/usr/ports/grap= hics/graphviz/work/graphviz-2.26.3/plugin'=0A> gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive= ] Error 1=0A> gmake[1]: Leaving directory =0A`/usr/ports/graphics/graphviz/= work/graphviz-2.26.3'=0A> gmake: *** [all] Error 2=0A> *** Error code 1=0A>= =0A> Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz.=0A> *** Error code 1=0A>=0A> Do = you have any suggestion what should I try?=0A> I want to mention that the p= orts tree is up to date.=0A=0AYou don't go back far enough to show the actu= al error that kicks things=0Aout to the makefile, so all I can tell you is:= it works fine for me, so=0Amake sure you "make clean" before trying to bui= ld graphviz.=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 23:30:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 696441065673 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:30:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7448B8FC1E for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:30:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A6BC3E8357C; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:30:02 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20101012233002.GA4957@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> <20101012221020.1a8dcd90.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101012221020.1a8dcd90.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Arthur Chance , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:30:09 -0000 On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:10:20PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:43:43 +0100, Arthur Chance wrote: > > On 10/11/10 18:31, Polytropon wrote: > > [snip] > > > The psm device can be configured per /etc/rc.conf using moused. > > > While USB mice get configured by the USB subsystem automatically, > > > PS/2 and serial mice do not. > > > > > > Here's an example entry: > > > > > > moused_enable="YES" > > > moused_port="/dev/psm0" > > > moused_flags="-z 4" > > > moused_type="auto" > > > > I'm not sure that bit about PS/2 mice not being configured automatically > > is true. > > PS/2 mice usually GET configured automatically, so type=auto is > sufficient in MOST cases. In my case (where I took those lines > from) I had to specify additional flags to make sure some specific > functionality of THAT mouse runs properly. > > > > > I run 8.1-RELEASE-p1 on amd64 with a PS/2 mouse and my > > /etc/rc.conf contains > > > > moused_enable="NO" > > moused_nondefault_enable="NO" > > moused_type="NO" > > > > and X has no problem seeing the mouse. OK, I don't have a mouse in > > console mode, but that's a personal foible of mine. > > As I mentioned in another message, X should pick up the mouse > INDEPENDENTLY from the system (moused), and if my memory serves > me, this works both in combination with HAL + DBUS, but should > work also without them. > > The idea of trying to get a mouse pointer in console mode is a > means of diagnostics, where "choose lowest level to check" is > often the best idea. The fewer components are involved, and > the better you can CONTROL those components, the easier it is > to check if something works. > The guy who set up my KVM/mouse deal thinks I would be better off just having a service do my hosting; I am close to agreeing. Clearly, the Beklin model I have only supports USB keybd+mouse. They sell another that does USB and PS/2, but I didn't think of that gotcha. The kernel is set for PS/2 mice and evidently sticks them on /dev/sysmouse. Thru the sysinstall script, I see a mouse active in not-X11 but in console-mode. And the /device for that tweak is missing from the /dev table. I *can* get some mouse pointer working in one of at least two ways. AS plain /dev/sysinstall, the mouse pointer jumps all over the screen untill I sh-exec /etc/rc.d/mouse with the "poll" arg. Having a pointer in console mode tells me that at least FreeBSD does know the mouse is there, but I am out of ideas. Nutshell:: whatever, nothing mouse works in X11. That was the whole point of this exercise. > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 23:43:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7390106566B for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:43:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9710D8FC15 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:43:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-73-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.73.80]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01AB3D51D; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 01:43:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o9CNhQl7001430; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 01:43:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 01:43:26 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20101013014326.6630e3b5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20101012233002.GA4957@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> <20101012221020.1a8dcd90.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101012233002.GA4957@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:43:29 -0000 On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:30:02 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > The guy who set up my KVM/mouse deal thinks I would be better > off just having a service do my hosting; I am close to agreeing. It it possible that you recently had mail problems? When fetchmail'ing today's bunch of messages, I got the error message that thought.org did not resolve... but seems to work again now. > Clearly, the Beklin model I have only supports USB keybd+mouse. > They sell another that does USB and PS/2, but I didn't think of > that gotcha. The problem might be related to USB handling on FreeBSD, I think. >From your reports I see that there are no keyboard problems when switching from / to the FreeBSD box, but the mouse doesn't fully work. Did you get X working in the meantime? > The kernel is set for PS/2 mice and evidently sticks them on > /dev/sysmouse. Yes - if one is present. At least X can be set to use sysmouse as pointer device, but it is not a symlink to either a USB or PS/2 mouse. Currently, I'm using a Sun USB mouse, and there is crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 10 Oct 13 01:31 /dev/sysmouse as well as crw-r--r-- 1 root operator 0, 122 Oct 13 01:31 /dev/ums0 If this does survive a KVM switch-over, all is fine. > Thru the sysinstall script, I see a mouse active > in not-X11 but in console-mode. And the /device for that tweak > is missing from the /dev table. I read that as follows: The sysinstall program initializes a mouse and provides a cursor in text mode, means: mouse DOES WORK in text mode, but not in X. This is part 1 of the solution. You can now check what happens when you switch off / to the FreeBSD box - to see if the mouse does still work in text mode. Part 2 would be to review X settings. > I *can* get some mouse pointer working in one of at least two > ways. AS plain /dev/sysinstall, the mouse pointer jumps all > over the screen untill I sh-exec /etc/rc.d/mouse with the "poll" > arg. Having a pointer in console mode tells me that at least > FreeBSD does know the mouse is there, but I am out of ideas. I think it is X (again, ah...) having problems here. > Nutshell:: whatever, nothing mouse works in X11. That was the > whole point of this exercise. Then you might be able to solve the problem when you check the configuration file for X (or its absence, but then, the presence of HAL and DBUS services). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 03:20:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C5F1065674; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 03:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406B48FC13; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 03:20:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 43618E8357E; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:20:18 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20101013032018.GA3163@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> <20101012221020.1a8dcd90.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101012233002.GA4957@thought.org> <20101013014326.6630e3b5.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101013014326.6630e3b5.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 03:20:19 -0000 New issues below... On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 01:43:26AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:30:02 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > The guy who set up my KVM/mouse deal thinks I would be better > > off just having a service do my hosting; I am close to agreeing. > > It it possible that you recently had mail problems? When fetchmail'ing > today's bunch of messages, I got the error message that thought.org > did not resolve... but seems to work again now. > Right. For some reason my server has seemed to die without notice. I'm pretty sure it is operator error, :-) ... things seem stable for the past few hours. --One thing is that I have been rebooting or deliberately crashing/rebooting when there was no other way. Be nice if ctl-alt-delete still worked.... > > > > Clearly, the Beklin model I have only supports USB keybd+mouse. > > They sell another that does USB and PS/2, but I didn't think of > > that gotcha. > > The problem might be related to USB handling on FreeBSD, I think. > >From your reports I see that there are no keyboard problems when > switching from / to the FreeBSD box, but the mouse doesn't fully > work. Did you get X working in the meantime? Switching around by the buttons [say from my new desktop to the server] is not a problem. The mouse only works in certain rare cases. Sometimes the mouse shakes violently and jumps around. I tried the "poll" string, but it died after a few moments, so I sh moused stop. And the server was okay. I have gotten # startx to present the trio of twm screens. Usually the keyboard is dead and the mouse cursor is frozen. The times I _have_ gotten the mouse to act smoothly [in console mode], when I do a `startx', someimes I can type into the center xterm [twm], but there is no mouse cursor. I just looked at the handbook "2.10.10 Mouse Settings" I am running 7.2 on the server, not that old, but the text does not match what I see on my sysinstall screen. // cut and paste This option will allow you to cut and paste text in the console and user programs with a 3-button mouse. If using a 2-button mouse, refer to manual page, moused(8), after installation for details on emulating the 3-button style. This example depicts a non-USB mouse configuration (such as a PS/2 or COM port mouse): User Confirmation Requested Does this system have a PS/2, serial, or bus mouse? [ Yes ] No Select [ Yes ] for a PS/2, serial or bus mouse, or [ No ] for a USB mouse and press Enter. Figure 2-42. Select Mouse Protocol Type [[ GRAPHIC ]] I mouse down to the Post-install section of the sysinstall menu. I do not see anything like the "User Confirmation Requested, [[etc]]" that lets me select Yes or No. *This may be what has been causing the trouble. What I _do_ see is just the graph that begins, "You can cut and paste text... ." etc. Nowhere do I see an option to select the USB protocol; it is only the PS/2 stuff. ..... > > > > > The kernel is set for PS/2 mice and evidently sticks them on > > /dev/sysmouse. > > Yes - if one is present. At least X can be set to use sysmouse as > pointer device, but it is not a symlink to either a USB or PS/2 > mouse. Currently, I'm using a Sun USB mouse, and there is > > crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 10 Oct 13 01:31 /dev/sysmouse > > as well as > > crw-r--r-- 1 root operator 0, 122 Oct 13 01:31 /dev/ums0 > > If this does survive a KVM switch-over, all is fine. Yup:: p0 19:51 Server [5002] ll sysmouse 0 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 11 Oct 12 17:12 sysmouse and, 0 crw-r--r-- 1 root operator 0, 44 Oct 12 17:12 ums0 So, both devices are there. Just that when I set the mouse to the latter, /dev/ums0, the kernel sees it always as busy. A poster to our -stable lists thought it might be hald bug, so I commented out that in /etc/rc.conf. BZZZT. It's back:) > > > > > Thru the sysinstall script, I see a mouse active > > in not-X11 but in console-mode. And the /device for that tweak > > is missing from the /dev table. > > I read that as follows: The sysinstall program initializes a mouse > and provides a cursor in text mode, means: mouse DOES WORK in text > mode, but not in X. > > This is part 1 of the solution. You can now check what happens when > you switch off / to the FreeBSD box - to see if the mouse does still > work in text mode. > > Part 2 would be to review X settings. > > > > > I *can* get some mouse pointer working in one of at least two > > ways. AS plain /dev/sysinstall, the mouse pointer jumps all > > over the screen untill I sh-exec /etc/rc.d/mouse with the "poll" > > arg. Having a pointer in console mode tells me that at least > > FreeBSD does know the mouse is there, but I am out of ideas. > > I think it is X (again, ah...) having problems here. > > > > > Nutshell:: whatever, nothing mouse works in X11. That was the > > whole point of this exercise. > > Then you might be able to solve the problem when you check the > configuration file for X (or its absence, but then, the presence > of HAL and DBUS services). Will you please check out this posting: http://osdir.com/ml/freebsd.bugs/2002-03/msg00032.html The way that the mose config worked as to turn off the moused_enable, to moused_enable="NO". Didn't seem to do anything... gary > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 03:59:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1349B1065670 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 03:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC3B8FC1C for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 03:59:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-73-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.73.80]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901293D257; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:59:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o9D3x7Jd002485; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:59:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:59:06 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20101013055906.bdc5f644.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20101013032018.GA3163@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> <20101012221020.1a8dcd90.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101012233002.GA4957@thought.org> <20101013014326.6630e3b5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101013032018.GA3163@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mailing List , FreeBSD Mailing List , FreeBSD Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 03:59:10 -0000 On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:20:18 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > I just looked at the handbook "2.10.10 Mouse Settings" I am > running 7.2 on the server, not that old, but the text does not > match what I see on my sysinstall screen. > > // cut and paste > > > This option will allow you to cut and paste text in the console and > user programs with a 3-button mouse. If using a 2-button mouse, > refer to manual page, moused(8), after installation for details on > emulating the 3-button style. This example depicts a non-USB mouse > configuration (such as a PS/2 or COM port mouse): > > User Confirmation Requested > Does this system have a PS/2, serial, or bus mouse? > > [ Yes ] No > > Select [ Yes ] for a PS/2, serial or bus mouse, or [ No ] for a USB > mouse and press Enter. > > Figure 2-42. Select Mouse Protocol Type > > [[ GRAPHIC ]] > > I mouse down to the Post-install section of the sysinstall menu. > I do not see anything like the > > "User Confirmation Requested, [[etc]]" > > that lets me select Yes or No. *This may be what has been > causing the trouble. What I _do_ see is just the graph that > begins, "You can cut and paste text... ." etc. Nowhere do I > see an option to select the USB protocol; it is only the PS/2 > stuff. ..... USB mice get autodetected and autoactivated (by the USB subsystem), so there is no need to configure them. Currently I have no such setting in /etc/rc.conf, and mouse works. I think you should look at "Configuring X" rather than the system's mouse setting, as X seems to work independently. There's a section about that in the handbook. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-config.html > > > The kernel is set for PS/2 mice and evidently sticks them on > > > /dev/sysmouse. > > > > Yes - if one is present. At least X can be set to use sysmouse as > > pointer device, but it is not a symlink to either a USB or PS/2 > > mouse. Currently, I'm using a Sun USB mouse, and there is > > > > crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 10 Oct 13 01:31 /dev/sysmouse > > > > as well as > > > > crw-r--r-- 1 root operator 0, 122 Oct 13 01:31 /dev/ums0 > > > > If this does survive a KVM switch-over, all is fine. > > > Yup:: > > p0 19:51 Server [5002] ll sysmouse > 0 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 11 Oct 12 17:12 sysmouse > > and, > > 0 crw-r--r-- 1 root operator 0, 44 Oct 12 17:12 ums0 > > > So, both devices are there. Just that when I set the mouse to > the latter, /dev/ums0, the kernel sees it always as busy. A > poster to our -stable lists thought it might be hald bug, so I > commented out that in /etc/rc.conf. BZZZT. It's back:) Correct. If you disable HAL, and your X is configured to run *WITH* HAL, it won't run anymore. Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (and if not present, create it) to make X work *WITHOUT* HAL. How it is to be done is described here: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html You can only have ONE of the following settings, as far as I understood the current state of X: a) X with HAL and DBUS, no xorg.conf b) X with HAL and DBUS, with xorg.conf c) X without HAL and DBUS, with xorg.conf So your way would be now to (1st) disable HAL and DBUS from the system and then (2nd) configure X not to require them. Another (maybe 3rd) option is to recompile X without HAL and DBUS require- ments. > Will you please check out this posting: > > http://osdir.com/ml/freebsd.bugs/2002-03/msg00032.html > > The way that the mose config worked as to turn off the > moused_enable, to moused_enable="NO". Didn't seem to do > anything... Yes, sounds familiar... It is to be interpreted as follows: If you use a USB mouse, set moused_enable="NO", as the USB subsystem will call moused with the correct settings automatically. If you use a PS/2 or serial mouse, set moused_enable="YES" and also set the needed options like _port and _type, and maybe _flags, so moused can take care of the mouse. The USB system is not involved here. I really think you should concentrate on configuring X's mouse handling, as the system's seems to work in a correct manner. Suggested TODO: 1. Disable HAL and DBUS per rc.conf 2. Create xorg.conf # X -configure # cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf 3. Enter AutoAddDevices setting to xorg.conf as described http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html 4. ??? 5. Profit! :-) Oh, and don't forget to reboot. Medieval times... :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 04:44:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A5D106564A for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:44:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDEF8FC0C for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:44:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id J26L1f0061smiN4A14XBSU; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:31:11 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([98.248.41.155]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id J4X91f00Q3LrwQ28g4XAG2; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:31:10 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 84D499B418; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:31:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:31:09 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20101013043109.GA48051@icarus.home.lan> References: <20101013032018.GA3163@thought.org> <20101013055906.bdc5f644.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101013055906.bdc5f644.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Gary Kline , Mailing List , FreeBSD Mailing List , FreeBSD@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:44:24 -0000 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 05:59:06AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:20:18 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > Will you please check out this posting: > > > > http://osdir.com/ml/freebsd.bugs/2002-03/msg00032.html > > > > The way that the mose config worked as to turn off the > > moused_enable, to moused_enable="NO". Didn't seem to do > > anything... > > Yes, sounds familiar... > > It is to be interpreted as follows: > > If you use a USB mouse, set moused_enable="NO", as the USB subsystem > will call moused with the correct settings automatically. Correction -- it's devd(8) which auto-launches moused, not the USB subsystem. See /etc/devd.conf and look for the 'ums[0-9]+' entries. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 06:47:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121A0106566B for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 06:47:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp107-mob.biz.mail.ird.yahoo.com (smtp107-mob.biz.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89F8C8FC1A for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 06:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 48744 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2010 06:21:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=gf5eaqGGSgG+vpq8xmD3Acdk6YL8ukD8CqZvx19Hs4vzIoatCK7hOkBxh7NuoR5Tg/nJ85xwUtjiRT6jsv5+wa0snC18jdR+Oh72rM/rmaat0aKKHfP5nYBes2//1qWkTXQ8yhlPifaHyzVDItYL5BpBpWbwznMXdhudRStsTdE= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1286950863; bh=bCh6hd70E2xU1xz6ll/+5JaHt1Gh64gV0B1fMmF8Nnk=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=4425rGD9SZfMw9i0msuMc792jCCqpk3CsGO9tNxu1d5/Y01SjKf5n+Fn3XK8UJaMc/d4r5UKVCHcSfk/x53zMrekl9kDSlBjuvi7r6k8fTevJjUp7JjXl3L9BAthi7G7o4uMhp0qLbhOy0wNwXG3MbJtK+EwEPW6wHExR5GDOnc= Received: from [89.223.253.163] (laszlo_danielisz@89.223.253.163 with xymcookie) by smtp107-mob.biz.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Oct 2010 06:21:01 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: QwgFOT2swBC9RbEk7L61j8D8oTJpwuBOkZBcLzY- X-YMail-OSG: iva2rj0VM1noUkWY3zzF57y8oDROjNnqOJLwArrnXw_M0pP rRc9iwaTwRYfC37kF5kT_Oce0amhQBk7GJLAY6bhoVlVDYqzHg_Jnuxsua1d EYF_wocoCpWwluf5ki0jr0KztL0tq.V8ZBcphlnl8.kRBLaJkdKKN_3C.e9e GDwREBr3l_2Ql.dAprkT6lXFixlYw8KdQGPUOdbIJrMACOQOJvVy5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 References: <447149.36059.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C9AAF66.9050308@rdtan.net> <20100923061916.GA1945@current.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20100923061916.GA1945@current.Sisis.de> X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder: FreeBSD_stuff Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8B117) Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8B117) From: =?utf-8?Q?D=C3=A1nielisz_L=C3=A1szl=C3=B3?= X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 1_210_AJXIjkQAAVqKTJrxZQ7r8h/mV0U Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:20:36 +0200 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: nat problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 06:47:46 -0000 Hi, I'm behind a freebsd - pf machine, I'd like to connect to a webpage, but it l= oads a bit and then it stops, I checked out the pf -s stat and it says: FIN= _WAIT_2:ESTABLISHED and FIN_WAIT_2:FIN_WAIT_for the connection. 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Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 07:14:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DAF106564A for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:14:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reinhard.haller@interactive-net.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D668FC14 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:14:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from interactive.dnsalias.net (ppp-88-217-4-43.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.4.43]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MHaGK-1P71Gv0lga-0045CH; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:01:45 +0200 Received: from scalix.interactive.de ([fd08:e8a3:4825:0:20c:29ff:feaa:3622]) by interactive.dnsalias.net with esmtp (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1P5vLM-000Avb-BX; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:01:44 +0200 Received: from scalix.interactive.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by scalix.interactive.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o9D71gNu014114; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:01:43 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (Core2Duo.interactive.de [192.168.0.196]) by scalix.interactive.de (Scalix SMTP Relay 11.4.5.13150) via ESMTP; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:01:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:01:37 +0200 From: Reinhard Haller To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, nfsen-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <4CB55951.6040306@interactive-net.de> x-scalix-Hops: 1 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; de; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ACL-rcpt: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-ACL-rcpt: nfsen-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net X-ACL-Send: reinhard.haller@interactive-net.de X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:26nsgXpuh2s8z5nZHlOmInolAjTgl6jjAfz6bNSKWqu oyQmWF8Vx5sxekzDqRr0GRCJQYMwQUD9Z8NDLQTNgfSMm7f5ek 1tI4VE+bdtdfypLfGbxJQxWDJ9U5au/kq8MSKrRmE708//mVHG 8a4wUBmHwYR5Oxb7SDBJzscO9FzL7wbWtc33WhAGYu5VjUvL4c 66PTWggELGbEpIrhOFP1UOldHXPoQ3BMj+sk5ctSkhXoxDHXnu DRUks7JHEveEa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: nfsen and localtime/strftime X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:14:44 -0000 Hi, after my last update (freebsd 8.1 ports) nfsen spreads warnings on the website: *Warning*: localtime() [function.localtime ]: It is not safe to rely on the system's timezone settings. You are *required* to use the date.timezone setting or the date_default_timezone_set() function. In case you used any of those methods and you are still getting this warning, you most likely misspelled the timezone identifier. We selected 'Europe/Berlin' for 'CEST/2.0/DST' instead in */usr/local/www/nfsen/nfsenutil.php* on line *257* Any suggestions? Thanks Reinhard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 07:36:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0859106564A for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:36:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A088FC15 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:36:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:36:27 +0200 Message-ID: <4CB5617B.2090107@ose.nl> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:36:27 +0200 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4CB55951.6040306@interactive-net.de> In-Reply-To: <4CB55951.6040306@interactive-net.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: nfsen and localtime/strftime X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:36:31 -0000 On 10/13/2010 09=3A01 AM=2C Reinhard Haller wrote=3A =3E Hi=2C =3E =3E after my last update =28freebsd 8=2E1 ports=29 nfsen spreads warnings o= n the =3E website=3A =3E =3E *Warning*=3A localtime=28=29 =5Bfunction=2Elocaltime =3E =3Chttp=3A//netflow=2Einteractive=2Ede/function=2Elocaltime=3E=5D=3A It= is not safe to =3E rely on the system=27s timezone settings=2E You are *required* to use t= he =3E date=2Etimezone setting or the date=5Fdefault=5Ftimezone=5Fset=28=29 fu= nction=2E In =3E case you used any of those methods and you are still getting this =3E warning=2C you most likely misspelled the timezone identifier=2E We sel= ected =3E =27Europe/Berlin=27 for =27CEST/2=2E0/DST=27 instead in =3E */usr/local/www/nfsen/nfsenutil=2Ephp* on line *257* =3E =3E Any suggestions=3F I had the same kind of errors Set the timezone in php=2Eini date=2Etimezone =3D Europe/Berlin works for me in php=2Eini I did not find this in UPDATING though DISCLAIMER=3A This e-mail is for the intended recipient=28s=29 only=2E Acce= ss=2C disclosure=2C copying=2C distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited=2E If yo= u have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system= =2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 09:14:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0FF106566B for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:14:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3814A8FC08 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:14:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 47E4034D44F; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:14:31 +0100 (BST) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:14:30 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.5.2; amd64; ; ) X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201010131014.31158.david@vizion2000.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: portupgrade command line option -f problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:14:45 -0000 Hi man portupgrade advises: -f --force Force the upgrade of a package even if it is to be a downgrade or just a reinstall of the same ver- sion, or the port is held by user using the HOLD_PKGS variable in pkgtools.conf. In practice on freebsd 7.2 p3 amd generic I find that uptodate packages are excluded! [Exclude up-to-date packages ............ [done] Whereas I wish to have all identified packages rebuilt even if they are shown as being up to date. This may be necessary if, for example, a change has been made to make.conf which affects ports might have an up to date version but were compiled prior to the changes in make.conf. Unless I am mistaken it seems as though the -f option not produce results I expect after reading the man page. David Photographic Artist Permanent Installations & Design Creative Imagery and Advanced Digital Techniques High Dynamic Range Photography & Official Portraiture Combined darkroom & digital creations & Systems Adminstrator for the vizion2000.net network From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 09:40:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5413E106566C for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:40:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026308FC12 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:40:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb15 with SMTP id 15so2104442gwb.13 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 02:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.95.9 with SMTP id o9mr15245953yhf.2.1286962801939; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 02:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-077-039-064.nc.res.rr.com [71.77.39.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x45sm7266045yhc.45.2010.10.13.02.40.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 13 Oct 2010 02:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A4927E54846 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:39:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:39:57 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20101013053957.1c9fcd5d@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <201010131014.31158.david@vizion2000.net> References: <201010131014.31158.david@vizion2000.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: portupgrade command line option -f problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:40:03 -0000 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:14:30 +0100 David Southwell articulated: > man portupgrade advises: > > -f > --force Force the upgrade of a package even if it > is to be a downgrade or just a reinstall of the same ver- > sion, or the port is held by user using > the HOLD_PKGS variable in pkgtools.conf. > > In practice on freebsd 7.2 p3 amd generic I find that uptodate > packages are excluded! > [Exclude up-to-date packages ............ > [done] > > Whereas I wish to have all identified packages rebuilt even if they > are shown as being up to date. This may be necessary if, for example, > a change has been made to make.conf which affects ports might have an > up to date version but were compiled prior to the changes in > make.conf. > > Unless I am mistaken it seems as though the -f option not produce > results I expect after reading the man page. You could use 'portmanager -f'. I can guarantee that it will rebuild everything. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Lawrence Radiation Laboratory keeps all its data in an old gray trunk. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 11:12:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8F71065673 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:12:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B049A8FC12 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:12:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb39 with SMTP id 39so832059wwb.31 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:12:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YzODVMDzYO+e22pVKaOjtON5LEDjsIW4UmWmu/Qaaj8=; b=k4kHtMEVxqiPSh5coZYGnP+FSmH7WylNs0YOGY7Zr0ZuabZZ16U0qK/TiEzF9qbFrs q9dEFwLywDu0kOudL+z8BtqjVhkn2BquS0M+c2rCpDuVPwfMJ4tIzOu4qyU58w+YZH6D T/CafdeCZmtLVzjX4pbQAaZfnnLXGKHPCDk4k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=t9JtJrbW2e4U+NGfxvDuP15FFIYdr8UNbZbIHswEisQxqlogdY/+G9/c430keQ/Seu cAwK7+sRptx262B5MJ4z+Jl19FgRUGdYhJpQg96ljlfqlt9+rjt9/CO5fpZPw7S6vSXe uMIMHVZD4vwN1NUkTW2LjHG7XYzHqQ7o9yYTg= Received: by 10.216.153.140 with SMTP id f12mr228628wek.111.1286968377548; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x12sm2035756weq.42.2010.10.13.04.12.55 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:12:53 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101013121253.30b9e0f7@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <201010131014.31158.david@vizion2000.net> References: <201010131014.31158.david@vizion2000.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: portupgrade command line option -f problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:12:59 -0000 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:14:30 +0100 David Southwell wrote: > Hi > > man portupgrade advises: > > -f > --force Force the upgrade of a package even if it > is to be a downgrade or just a reinstall of the same ver- > sion, or the port is held by user using > the HOLD_PKGS variable in pkgtools.conf. > > In practice on freebsd 7.2 p3 amd generic I find that uptodate > packages are excluded! > [Exclude up-to-date packages ............ > [done] I think it's misleading, in my experience it does then go on to reinstall the ports. If nothing gets rebuilt try specifying the full package name or the origin. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 12:24:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0061065674 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:24:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976D38FC1D for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:24:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9365B34D44F; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:24:26 +0100 (BST) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:24:26 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.5.2; amd64; ; ) References: <201010131014.31158.david@vizion2000.net> <20101013121253.30b9e0f7@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20101013121253.30b9e0f7@gumby.homeunix.com> X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201010131324.26444.david@vizion2000.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: portupgrade command line option -f problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:24:42 -0000 > On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:14:30 +0100 > > David Southwell wrote: > > Hi > > > > man portupgrade advises: > > -f > > > > --force Force the upgrade of a package even if it > > > > is to be a downgrade or just a reinstall of the same ver- > > > > sion, or the port is held by user using > > > > the HOLD_PKGS variable in pkgtools.conf. > > > > In practice on freebsd 7.2 p3 amd generic I find that uptodate > > packages are excluded! > > [Exclude up-to-date packages ............ > > [done] > > I think it's misleading, in my experience it does then go on to > reinstall the ports. If nothing gets rebuilt try specifying the full > package name or the origin. Tried that but no good - it still seems to goof up. I recall it used to work many versions ago but it may not have been picked up on a regression test. David Photographic Artist Permanent Installations & Design Creative Imagery and Advanced Digital Techniques High Dynamic Range Photography & Official Portraiture Combined darkroom & digital creations & Systems Adminstrator for the vizion2000.net network From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 12:47:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425091065670 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:47:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chetan.shukla@aricent.com) Received: from jaguar.aricent.com (jaguar.aricent.com [121.241.96.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499FB8FC1B for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:47:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jaguar.aricent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postfix.imss71 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2859236B70 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:15:45 +0530 (IST) Received: from GUREXHT01.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM (gurexht01.asian.ad.aricent.com [10.203.171.136]) by jaguar.aricent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1268A36B74 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:15:45 +0530 (IST) Received: from GUREXMB01.asian.ad.aricent.com ([10.203.171.130]) by GUREXHT01.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM ([10.203.171.137]) with mapi; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:17:16 +0530 From: Chetan Shukla To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:17:18 +0530 Thread-Topic: __FreeBSD__ not available and unsigned long type Thread-Index: Actq1MNLw8Wyzps7RTadHFCjWpMFcg== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: __FreeBSD__ not available and unsigned long type X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:47:20 -0000 Hi I have two doubts working further ion FreeBSD. In my machine (8.0-RELEASE) I am not getting the macro __FreeBSD__. As a workaround I have to conditionally define it in makefile. Could someone define what is missing in this case. Moreover when I have to use unsigned long and signed long the only Options that I have are to write "unsigned long " and "signed long" Nothing more specific like uint64_t?Or are there any special header files t= hat need to be included. Looking forward for guidance, Thanks & Regards, Chetan ________________________________ "DISCLAIMER: This message is proprietary to Aricent and is intended solely = for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. It may contain privi= leged or confidential information and should not be circulated or used for = any purpose other than for what it is intended. If you have received this m= essage in error, please notify the originator immediately. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 13:01:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6FC1065673 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:01:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941598FC12 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb39 with SMTP id 39so954553wwb.31 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 06:01:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=czmnMPSg678P9ZUSR8ViAdMBGDntG7saEEzxaASw67k=; b=q8HdnBz4jbgMVlcl9RxClDpwzxlPRtWYrCUhOcPrkCnV4E9vVnj4kVOdqHOcgYvzew 61/q0exDYDPfw4nu3qQJov1uivJa7gVbhieBy8QovnIUilQSHIhwa3opw/FXX8PncJ5F SyfJgsJHjEEt7fm/O2ED37tmU8DQFyHKFLYIg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JWNJU9bw684hYxU5jlkbkws7ITj6vWi51+COfbxAmvqfRvklvyl/DR9gPNSR6Hbjmx xM+6DyzOw7jNbri+O4Xe1EqmoouLJoh70s2p0Ssg0vWw95vW89D9hNIEFfJ2nM2bEQLT nr6+sDyYE7WJNik2ryfjhMeETGSiohhkXht5Q= Received: by 10.227.142.84 with SMTP id p20mr8589340wbu.182.1286974871248; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 06:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a17sm6060826wbe.0.2010.10.13.06.01.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 13 Oct 2010 06:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:01:06 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101013140106.46d1d51f@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <201010131324.26444.david@vizion2000.net> References: <201010131014.31158.david@vizion2000.net> <20101013121253.30b9e0f7@gumby.homeunix.com> <201010131324.26444.david@vizion2000.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: portupgrade command line option -f problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:01:13 -0000 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:24:26 +0100 David Southwell wrote: > Tried that but no good - it still seems to goof up. I recall it used > to work many versions ago but it may not have been picked up on a > regression test. > It works for me. Which port is it failing on? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 13:14:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8350D106564A for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:14:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from albinv4616@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F19B8FC1D for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:14:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyi11 with SMTP id 11so22435wyi.13 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 06:14:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=b8aQqbgkbFryU9l7qQFALzP+3AFj/fqe1UL2OrJpWx4=; b=EUSNMHy+wogSDvlQS1dYtAiBQacQ92t7GMlBLiQjvAAlWo8K9CSSxf13K4+4aiVXBa 9mEW6wrTE2IfekYxaCxB9nhyOA7JH1Xv22mUfR6/pnTJOKcFfaXYcljCDYxNnqKXHYHh srJaZnlkMEOWoiBeQQ3IDpiANF0F09mqvM3OI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=BU9CpWg6pVfauTV7nWRuAvdMotEuvo1FfPkyKkzMk4vdysRZ9NYP9pbN3aOv6UchlT Kmw9wUiZS3TqQd7Wg3sKReTJ3qOwdgiEgGNsAiCQD9JwnHuGE7HLGfxS0VR/lGN3psfx 9mRhkLI3I4AhIOGFGLeSdYN/NKpdd2ME6Vl1E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.146.213 with SMTP id i21mr8608755wbv.99.1286975663889; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 06:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.58.144 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 06:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:14:23 +0200 Message-ID: From: Albin Vega To: Bacula Mailingliste , FreeBSD Mailingliste Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Problem connecting to fd on client server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:14:25 -0000 Hello! I am trying to set up a backup-job on a win 2008 server over internet. I have done this successfully on two other servers, but I am having trouble with this one. Here=92s the bacula-dir.config file on the clientserver (th= at is to be backed up). The fd service is running on both backup-client/server= . # For Bacula release 5.0.3 (08/05/10) -- Windows MinGW32 FileDaemon { # this is me Name =3D clientserver-fd FDport =3D 9102 # where we listen for the director WorkingDirectory =3D "C:\\Program Files\\Bacula\\working" Pid Directory =3D "C:\\Program Files\\Bacula\\working" # Plugin Directory =3D "C:\\Program Files\\Bacula\\plugins" Maximum Concurrent Jobs =3D 10 } # # List Directors who are permitted to contact this File daemon # Director { Name =3D backupserver.domain.no-fd Password =3D "backupserver-fd-password=94 } # # Restricted Director, used by tray-monitor to get the # status of the file daemon # Director { Name =3D client-mon Password =3D " backupserver-fd-password=94 Monitor =3D yes } # Send all messages except skipped files back to Director Messages { Name =3D Standard director =3D backupserver.domain.no-fd =3D all, !skipped, !restored } I have checked the FD name (of the backupserver) and password in the clientserver bacula-dir.config file many times, and it seems to be correct. I have restarted the service many times on both the backupserver and the clientserver. I have also reinstalled bacula on the clientserver. I thought that it could be a problem with the forwarding in the firewall but when I ran an estimate command on the client-job I got the following message: Failed to connect to Client. You have messages. *messages 13-Oct 13:08 backupserver.domain.no-dir JobId 0: Fatal error: Unable to authenticate with File daemon at " client-ip-adress:9102". Possible causes: Passwords or names not the same or Maximum Concurrent Jobs exceeded on the FD or FD networking messed up (restart daemon). Please see http://www.bacula.org/en/rel-manual/Bacula_Freque_Asked_Questi.html#SECTION= 003760000000000000000for help. * It looks as if the backupserver gets contact with the File Demon on the client server but there is something going wrong with authentication. Also, I can connect to the backupserver using bat and bconsole from the client server. The only thing that doesn=92t seem to work is to connect from the backupserver to the clientservers file demon. Any ideas on what could be wrong? Best regards Albin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 13:23:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839D4106564A for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:23:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.grunewald@laposte.net) Received: from mx1.mpim-bonn.mpg.de (mx1.mpim-bonn.mpg.de [195.37.209.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137C78FC18 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:23:18 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5400,1158,6134"; a="781545" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.57,325,1283724000"; d="scan'208";a="781545" Received: from mailout2.mpim-bonn.mpg.de (HELO kleio.mpim-bonn.mpg.de) ([192.168.42.31]) by mx1.mpim-bonn.mpg.de with ESMTP; 13 Oct 2010 15:13:13 +0200 Received: from [192.68.254.3] (ino.mpim-bonn.mpg.de [192.68.254.3]) by kleio.mpim-bonn.mpg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061A72006FB68; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:13:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4CB5B068.6060709@laposte.net> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:13:12 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Michael_Gr=FCnewald?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100329) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chetan Shukla References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: __FreeBSD__ not available and unsigned long type X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:23:19 -0000 dear Chetan, Chetan Shukla wrote: > I have two doubts working further ion FreeBSD. > In my machine (8.0-RELEASE) I am not getting the macro __FreeBSD__. > As a workaround I have to conditionally define it in makefile. > Could someone define what is missing in this case. For this one, I do not have any clue. > Moreover when I have to use unsigned long and signed long the only > Options that I have are to write "unsigned long " and "signed long" > Nothing more specific like uint64_t?Or are there any special header files that need to be included. The type uint64_t is indeed defined by the header stdint.h (mnemonic: standard integer types). This seems to suit the requirements of C99. Try `man stdint' at the command line. Best regards, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 13:57:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E121065672 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:57:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from damiang@wasko.pl) Received: from kurier.wasko.pl (mail.wasko.pl [193.178.240.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74288FC16 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:57:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.4.1.208] (port=4121) by kurier.wasko.pl with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P61Oz-0004SC-QF; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:29:53 +0200 Message-ID: <4CB5B450.5040603@wasko.pl> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:29:52 +0200 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Damian_Ge=3Bbicki?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Albin Vega References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Wasko-test-2: 2 Cc: Bacula Mailingliste , FreeBSD Mailingliste Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Problem connecting to fd on client server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:57:32 -0000 Albin Vega wrote: > Hello! > > I am trying to set up a backup-job on a win 2008 server over internet. I > have done this successfully on two other servers, but I am having > trouble with this one. Here’s the bacula-dir.config file on the > clientserver (that is to be backed up). The fd service is running on > both backup-client/server. > client/server firewall or dns problem You didn't show Client information from server - bacula-fd.conf and DNS/hosts. 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You can also reply to this email with REMOVE in the subject line to make sure we'll NEVER send you any more e-mails in the future. ----------------------------------- Powered by LinkAssistant SEO Tool http://www.link-assistant.com/ ----------------------------------- ------=_Part_274_29909967.1286972618320-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 14:33:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA2F1065670 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:33:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bluethundr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45C88FC20 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:33:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz16 with SMTP id 16so2593455bwz.13 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:33:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4ELfV+bJTvqMTGBEdLxHEbsucT5qailTPr8y88zjfts=; b=sCRTFOFHyh5BzWp3iIZp6/koKF0wtBmLLU+lJAy0sHD4JKUmTPYI1dro/FwoRLwc4J dSbrZPidBPYD6ettW3cETgEUdHhORj1PmQ3U7+nZw/MoIFZGzNNiBdg9JNkQz5cMLo93 NTOQgM3h72dzgfhI6zRHtodA0wvNAZRUXHclE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=DSicrmdq13VF5DVsTjTb7U1p16Z95knCtvL19gC2fDzfG/MG2VERDEPPwwn2/wPLvd 7HlB0+jxTugJzPW5G4xvOJ6tZced7IGDGgaheh6XXKKqdO/UXrByfHeqfulhS6BTUKIF 9LwcFDQ5a07FZ1gXpq1tZJd+erN5hdI7Q+txQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.69.193 with SMTP id a1mr6937017bkj.108.1286978916046; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:08:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.69.144 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:08:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:08:35 -0400 Message-ID: From: Tim Dunphy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: migrating to openldap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:33:22 -0000 Hello, I am attempting to migrate my local user setup to openldap under FreeBSD 8.1. My server is currently running nicely. At the moment, sudoers is imported into openldap-server24. But services that authenticate through PAM (such as su and ssh) are currently not working. I notice that the CentOS version of openldap24 has a really nice set of perl scripts suited to this purpose. So I rsynced them over to my BSD box in the hopes of using them. LBSD2# ls README migrate_group.pl migrate_aliases.pl migrate_hosts.pl migrate_all_netinfo_offline.sh migrate_netgroup.pl migrate_all_netinfo_online.sh migrate_netgroup_byhost.pl migrate_all_nis_offline.sh migrate_netgroup_byuser.pl migrate_all_nis_online.sh migrate_networks.pl migrate_all_nisplus_offline.sh migrate_passwd.pl migrate_all_nisplus_online.sh migrate_profile.pl migrate_all_offline.sh migrate_protocols.pl migrate_all_online.sh migrate_rpc.pl migrate_automount.pl migrate_services.pl migrate_base.pl migrate_slapd_conf.pl migrate_common.ph migration-tools.txt migrate_fstab.pl What one needs to do is set an environment variable for your base DN and then run the scripts. LBSD2# echo $DEFAULT_BASE dc=summitnjhome,dc=com LBSD2# ./migrate_base.pl > /home/bluethundr/txt/base.ldif But for some reason the scripts running under BSD don't see the base dn that i set, whereas when I run them under CentOS they do. Now, I could edit the resulting file by hand, but that isn't a very practical solution. Does anyone know if there are either existing FreeBSD versions of these migration scripts or have a tip for helping me get these to run under FreeBSD? Thanks!!! -- Here's my RSA Public key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 5A4873A9 Share and enjoy!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 15:03:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ABF4106566B; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:03:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258958FC0A; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o9DF3MZw013781; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:03:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o9DF3LZ5013778; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:03:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:03:21 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20101013055906.bdc5f644.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> <20101012221020.1a8dcd90.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101012233002.GA4957@thought.org> <20101013014326.6630e3b5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101013032018.GA3163@thought.org> <20101013055906.bdc5f644.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:03:22 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Gary Kline , Mailing List , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:03:26 -0000 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010, Polytropon wrote: > Correct. If you disable HAL, and your X is configured to run *WITH* > HAL, it won't run anymore. Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (and if not > present, create it) to make X work *WITHOUT* HAL. > > How it is to be done is described here: > > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html I've followed only parts of this thread, and there are multiple problems. First is installing X on a server. Second is a KVM switch, many of which are problematic. Next is that the KVM converts USB to PS/2, which... well, maybe it's fine. Finally, a "jumpy mouse" problem with moused on console screams that it's the KVM, not moused or USB or xorg config. My suggestion would be to *not* install X on a server. If it's really required, use an actual keyboard and monitor on that server for those times when ssh -X/-Y aren't enough, and avoid the KVM. > If you use a USB mouse, set moused_enable="NO", as the USB subsystem > will call moused with the correct settings automatically. USB mice cause moused to be run anyway, but there are differences. If you want switching between X and console to be fast, enable moused. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 15:12:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F188106564A for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:12:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB5D8FC08 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:12:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o9DFCUEc015860; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:12:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <4CB5CC5E.1060400@qeng-ho.org> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:12:30 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20101007 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chetan Shukla References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: __FreeBSD__ not available and unsigned long type X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:12:38 -0000 On 10/13/10 13:47, Chetan Shukla wrote: > Hi > > I have two doubts working further ion FreeBSD. > > In my machine (8.0-RELEASE) I am not getting the macro __FreeBSD__. > As a workaround I have to conditionally define it in makefile. > Could someone define what is missing in this case. It's compiled into gcc. Specifically /usr/src/contrib/gcc/config/freebsd-spec.h, which contains the line builtin_define_with_int_value ("__FreeBSD__", FBSD_MAJOR); > Moreover when I have to use unsigned long and signed long the only > Options that I have are to write "unsigned long " and "signed long" > Nothing more specific like uint64_t?Or are there any special header files that need to be included. #include > Looking forward for guidance, -- "Although the wombat is real and the dragon is not, few know what a wombat looks like, but everyone knows what a dragon looks like." -- Avram Davidson, _Adventures in Unhistory_ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 15:19:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EEE0106566B for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:19:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jherman@dichotomia.fr) Received: from mail.dichotomia.fr (hydrogen.dichotomia.net [91.121.82.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365458FC1C for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:19:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.22] (109.53-251-89.rdns.acropolistelecom.net [89.251.53.109]) (Authenticated sender: kha) by sslmail.dichotomia.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 20CAA3DD055 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:00:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4CB5C9FE.90101@dichotomia.fr> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:02:22 +0200 From: Jerome Herman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.5 (sslmail.dichotomia.fr); Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:00:42 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Is it a good idea to use DHCP for point to point connections ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:19:55 -0000 Hello, Given the price (an tedious management) of layer 3 switches I was thinking about using modified DHCP to distribute addresses with a /32 netmask (255.255.255.255) The Idea : Create a cheap (and preferably not dirty) way to have client isolation, without creating tons of vlan. Pratictal overview : The DHCP server will be serving IP addresses and gateways with a /32 mask. Client1 would recieve IP adress of 241.0.0.1 with a netmask of 255.255.255.255 and a gateway of 240.0.0.1 Client2 would recieve IP adress of 241.0.0.2 with a netmask of 255.255.255.255 and a gateway of 240.0.0.2 Client3 would recieve IP adress of 241.0.0.3 with a netmask of 255.255.255.255 and a gateway of 240.0.0.3 etc. Of course the gateway will have to have as many IP as there are clients (Unless I am mistaken) The questions : - Is there something similar already existing ? It must not require any configuration on the client side other than activating DHCP. - Would this work ? I do not see why it would not, though I am a little anxious about having tens of point to point connections going to the same physical port. - I could not find anything forbidding it in RFC2131, but then again I might be wrong. Am I ? - One problem remains that is solved by vlan isolation but not by DHCP isolation : rogue DHCP servers. Any Idea to crush those ? I hope it is not inappropriate to post this on this list. But it is an interesting problem (I think). Jerome Herman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 15:37:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A991065670 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:37:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milu@dat.pl) Received: from jab.dat.pl (dat.pl [80.51.155.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49ECA8FC1A for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:37:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jab.dat.pl (jsrv.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD16F71; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:37:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dat.pl Received: from jab.dat.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (jab.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id e0fJl4rNJMLt; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:36:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from snifi.localnet (unknown [212.69.68.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 517D155; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:36:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Maciej Milewski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:37:09 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.35-ARCH; KDE/4.5.2; x86_64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201010131737.09756.milu@dat.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Tim Dunphy Subject: Re: migrating to openldap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:37:04 -0000 On Wednesday 13 October 2010 16:08:35, Tim Dunphy wrote: > Hello, > > I am attempting to migrate my local user setup to openldap under > FreeBSD 8.1. My server is currently running nicely. > > At the moment, sudoers is imported into openldap-server24. But > services that authenticate through PAM (such as su and ssh) are > currently not working. > > I notice that the CentOS version of openldap24 has a really nice set > of perl scripts suited to this purpose. > > So I rsynced them over to my BSD box in the hopes of using them. > > LBSD2# ls > README migrate_group.pl > migrate_aliases.pl migrate_hosts.pl > migrate_all_netinfo_offline.sh migrate_netgroup.pl > migrate_all_netinfo_online.sh migrate_netgroup_byhost.pl > migrate_all_nis_offline.sh migrate_netgroup_byuser.pl > migrate_all_nis_online.sh migrate_networks.pl > migrate_all_nisplus_offline.sh migrate_passwd.pl > migrate_all_nisplus_online.sh migrate_profile.pl > migrate_all_offline.sh migrate_protocols.pl > migrate_all_online.sh migrate_rpc.pl > migrate_automount.pl migrate_services.pl > migrate_base.pl migrate_slapd_conf.pl > migrate_common.ph migration-tools.txt > migrate_fstab.pl > > What one needs to do is set an environment variable for your base DN > and then run the scripts. > > LBSD2# echo $DEFAULT_BASE > dc=summitnjhome,dc=com > > > LBSD2# ./migrate_base.pl > /home/bluethundr/txt/base.ldif > > But for some reason the scripts running under BSD don't see the base > dn that i set, whereas when I run them under CentOS they do. > > Now, I could edit the resulting file by hand, but that isn't a very > practical solution. Does anyone know if there are either existing > FreeBSD versions of these migration scripts or have a tip for helping > me get these to run under FreeBSD? > > Thanks!!! The migrationtools page[1] says this about $DEFAULT_BASE The naming suffix to use in entries' distinguished names. If undefined, this will be constructed by mapping the mail domain name into a distinguished name (eg aceindustry.com becomes dc=aceindustry,dc=com). You may override this with the LDAP_BASEDN environment variable. Have you tried that? 1.http://www.padl.com/OSS/MigrationTools.html -- Maciej Milewski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 16:09:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D92310656AE for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:09:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from mail6.hostpark.net (mail6.hostpark.net [212.243.197.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B258FC27 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:09:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail6.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C830ABB6; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:09:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by Hostpark/NetZone Mailprotection at hostpark.net Received: from mail6.hostpark.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail6.hostpark.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10124) with ESMTP id wibLe3o1CPLa; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:09:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (132-157.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch [81.62.157.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail6.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F3000AB79; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:09:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o9DG8XcK013557 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:08:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o9DG8WMV013556; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:08:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:08:32 +0200 From: Martin Schweizer To: Reko Turja Message-ID: <20101013160831.GA13549@saturn.pcs.ms> References: <000f01cb5a27$4823a0f0$d86ae2d0$@com.au> <211f17580cb0ee7e5fac2831faf33e90.squirrel@hal.psst.com.au> <20101003081526.GJ74320@saturn.pcs.ms> <1BB9EE67E2A242C1AD4DEB1D8BA1BC78@rivendell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1BB9EE67E2A242C1AD4DEB1D8BA1BC78@rivendell> X-Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CYRUS IMAP cyradm core dump problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:09:19 -0000 Hello Reko Only for the records: I did realy a lot of tests in the past weeks (with and without security/heimdal, and also the kerberos base, etc.). The goal is, I was unable to get back to run with saslauthd -a kerberos5. The only way I found is to run saslauthd -a pam (but here you need also a patch, see under freebsd.org/send-pr.html). I'm now a bit frusting, because it's an import part of the base system and itdefinitly do not work. Regards, Am Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 02:45:21PM +0300 Reko Turja schrieb: > > Am Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 03:05:30PM +0300 Reko Turja schrieb: > >> > I applied the patch as suggested by Reko, but it seemed to make > >> > no > >> > difference > >> > >> After the patch recompiling and linking at least SASL is needed > >> after > >> buildworld and inatallation of new world. > >> > >> > removing libgssapiv2 libs however, solved my cyradm problem > >> > > >> > will this cause issues into the future for any other ports I may > >> > need ti > >> > install ? > >> > >> Unless you need kerberos authentication at some point, removing the > >> libs is non-issue. > > > > I'm running in the same situation as you (see > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=846230+852662+/usr/local/www/db/text/2010/freebsd-stable/20101003.freebsd-stable). I > > did tried > > a lot but end up in a broken make buildworld. Any ideas waht I'm > > doing wrong? > > I sadly don't have any idea if the patch applies cleanly anymore to > recent 8.STABLE - I did my testing on 8.1_PRERELEASE, where the patch > applied cleanly. There was some talk about updating the patch when the > problem was discussed more widely, but nothing has been realised this > far. > > I might be able to test the patch against 8.STABLE on my home system > sometime this week - as of myself I just did some testing and > troubleshooting back when the problem was discussed, as for myself > having working Kerberos is still non-issue. > > Of course if Kerberos functionality is critical for you, you could try > removing Kerberos from base system using /etc.src.conf and then > install either kerberos from ports and then linking sasl/cyrus against > that. > > -Reko > > -- Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 16:38:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8952106566B for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF558FC20 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o9DGcRNg013541 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:38:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4CB5E081.8070809@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:38:25 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100930 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Too many binary packages are missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:38:27 -0000 I am updating i386 system (portupgrade -aP) and whole lot of binary packages are missing. For example, gcc-4.5.0, qt4-corelib are examples of large packages that are missing that don't require too many dependencies and are very basic. I know, it may be caused by failed dependencies, copyright restrictions, etc. But it's hard to imagive why they are missing for these two: no copyright restrictions, and almost no dependencies. This unfortunately slows down many people. Is there any solution to this problem? Maybe people just forget about this build server and some minor fix wil help? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 16:41:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F28E1065679 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:41:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Received: from shell.msen.com (msen.com [148.59.86.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B828FC0A for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:41:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Sent-To: Received: from [192.168.1.111] (c-68-40-255-141.hsd1.mi.comcast.net [68.40.255.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.msen.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o9DGfhsP036260 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:41:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Message-ID: <4CB5E145.4030900@msen.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:41:41 -0400 From: Mark Moellering User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=68.40.255.141; envelope-from= Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=68.40.255.141; helo=[192.168.1.111] X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: shell.msen.com; Sender-ip: 68.40.255.141; Sender-helo: [192.168.1.111]; ) Subject: Ndis driver causes kernel problems on boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:41:44 -0000 I created a driver for my rtl8187 SE in my MSI Wind netbook using ndisgen. I placed the driver , rtl8187Se_sys.ko in /boot/modules I added rtl8187Se_sys_load="YES" in /boot/loader.conf I can kldload rtl8187Se_sys and everything seems OK. If I reboot, however, I get the following error during boot (truncated to what I think is the relevant info); Fata trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 fault virtual address = 0xf00032d4 fault code = supervisor read, page not present ... current process = 12 (swi4: clock) I am a little lost at this point. If I start in bootloader prompt mode, I type; OK> unload OK> load /boot/kernel/kernel OK> boot and everything works fine. Any and all help is appreciated. Mark Moellering From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 16:47:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5A4106564A for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:47:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f182.google.com (mail-px0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D306D8FC13 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi4 with SMTP id 4so870425pxi.13 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:47:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=U8nDq2gPRePSk62yaD7XO/J2XPgBh1lI2J3duQBrQ2g=; b=RND6DLQ7UaxnOcYkzc3R5YyiBXuyoH/jot6Wlff0oOFJCPuxRZhYR3wMApSQqC6Hip TJYrPS2/mA/I96RUqoSubh30IlB+LI/LSgXsu8PgQndbn5cS1H/331DwYmWA0cZZ3BqY 1Fh5w+K6dIowLGzDlTtDcUwT5tuX6JvEj9/1M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=oWpNbV4O509aPN4yeD6UwNMNmPF3L+pHFUmWvZczQE3DeXfg0imJ6FUensxBuZ3mNA 1Ke2183UvNqTCTAf+KrwhGQlJICSVXxyZmmq31j3wKecSzzJ1Aey89DdthvJnyLu9pVR pUTyRRWWO/azH6Ud2XdF+GKKVLddAw6kNSV5Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.143.1 with SMTP id q1mr7805703wfd.32.1286988473248; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.178.1 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:47:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4CB5E145.4030900@msen.com> References: <4CB5E145.4030900@msen.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:47:52 +0000 Message-ID: From: Paul B Mahol To: Mark Moellering Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Ndis driver causes kernel problems on boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:47:54 -0000 On 10/13/10, Mark Moellering wrote: > I created a driver for my rtl8187 SE in my MSI Wind netbook using ndisgen. > I placed the driver , rtl8187Se_sys.ko in /boot/modules > > I added rtl8187Se_sys_load="YES" in /boot/loader.conf > > I can kldload rtl8187Se_sys and everything seems OK. > If I reboot, however, I get the following error during boot (truncated > to what I think is the relevant info); > > Fata trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 > fault virtual address = 0xf00032d4 > fault code = supervisor read, page not present > ... > current process = 12 (swi4: clock) > > I am a little lost at this point. If I start in bootloader prompt mode, > I type; > OK> unload > OK> load /boot/kernel/kernel > OK> boot > > and everything works fine. > > Any and all help is appreciated. Some miniport drivers (or newer versions of drivers) tend to cause this. Workaround is to not use loader.conf to load miniport driver (in your case it is rtl8187Se_sys.ko) and instead load them (manually or automatically) after boot. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 16:58:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E871065674 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:58:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30804.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30804.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02F738FC19 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 82280 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Oct 2010 16:58:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1286989082; bh=7UvVFODoAwG8OTSkDzr4bDRmkMg3K3+YYGKfmEBGMLA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NrncsEO0GUA3aKIzv7d1RWQD3QFXs8kPDkv++ZnYe0s/xxCZyzkhTF9hVjuwoYmO+P6Spl4wFB0uqCcps2yqTjbJCqWc9veeGpu3xghS0JFo9gpskoCiEgDNN2MtTQpoxQ5V2xMKxTq8NoLXmoky3+QQcQBKBusoJLKuql9kCvI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: nat problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:58:03 -0000 Problem solved, changed the mtu/mru in ppp.conf, now its working ;-)=0A=0A= =0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 =0ATo: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" =0ASent: Wed, October 13, 2010 8:20:36 AM=0ASubject: nat = problems=0A=0AHi,=0A=0AI'm behind a freebsd - pf machine, I'd like to conne= ct to a webpage, but it =0Aloads a bit and then it stops, I checked out the= pf -s stat and it says: =0AFIN_WAIT_2:ESTABLISHED and FIN_WAIT_2:FIN_WAI= T_for the connection.=0ADo you have any idea whats happening?=0A=0AThank yo= u!=0ALaszlo=0A=0A_______________________________________________=0Afreebsd-= questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listi= nfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions= -unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 17:18:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB231065675 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:18:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Received: from shell.msen.com (msen.com [148.59.86.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D688FC18 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:18:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Sent-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from [192.168.1.111] (c-68-40-255-141.hsd1.mi.comcast.net [68.40.255.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.msen.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o9DHInCV044959; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:18:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Message-ID: <4CB5E9F7.20203@msen.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:18:47 -0400 From: Mark Moellering User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4CB5E145.4030900@msen.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=68.40.255.141; envelope-from= Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=68.40.255.141; helo=[192.168.1.111] X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: shell.msen.com; Sender-ip: 68.40.255.141; Sender-helo: [192.168.1.111]; ) Cc: onemda@gmail.com Subject: Re: Ndis driver causes kernel problems on boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:18:50 -0000 On 13-Oct-10 12:47 PM, Paul B Mahol wrote: > On 10/13/10, Mark Moellering wrote: >> I created a driver for my rtl8187 SE in my MSI Wind netbook using ndisgen. >> I placed the driver , rtl8187Se_sys.ko in /boot/modules >> >> I added rtl8187Se_sys_load="YES" in /boot/loader.conf >> >> I can kldload rtl8187Se_sys and everything seems OK. >> If I reboot, however, I get the following error during boot (truncated >> to what I think is the relevant info); >> >> Fata trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode >> cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 >> fault virtual address = 0xf00032d4 >> fault code = supervisor read, page not present >> ... >> current process = 12 (swi4: clock) >> >> I am a little lost at this point. If I start in bootloader prompt mode, >> I type; >> OK> unload >> OK> load /boot/kernel/kernel >> OK> boot >> >> and everything works fine. >> >> Any and all help is appreciated. > Some miniport drivers (or newer versions of drivers) tend to cause this. > Workaround is to not use loader.conf to load miniport driver (in your > case it is rtl8187Se_sys.ko) and instead load them (manually or > automatically) after boot. > OK thanks. How would I do that exactly (automatically). I think I need to create a shell script to execute the kldload commands but I am not sure how/where I should call it. Thanks for your help. I am getting a little burned out from reading man pages. Any and all help is apprciated Thanks for your help. Mark Moellering From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 17:23:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378B1106564A for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:23:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C7558FC13 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:23:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvg7 with SMTP id 7so441035pvg.13 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:23:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=PJyIMd7qVx21ebIaqsm2HzoP1ObcmZ2u30dSssMDpdQ=; b=nP0gRKn3O/afhBEuTSt7kBw/WGncTa7I5VPCAKgUDNhRCXvWGNtQZxtspdw/0LlH7J G7cfGttljra+IqYfDkqE8FLnRoi7uSirTXwg295iJUuAPFO9T0wdh7M8SosdOv+6qcg9 d0J79Vp6Gs7Ik9Ctz42FnsetgUwIl60TZaeVM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=oae0b10yydAF72ei7DzlSlIeU/RVE6PzKdJMl6xeIx1qfAQ8wcZTdysAtzyKuJk4xG J0YBwekE9lRXj+am9+FPtOlaFcH3Y7OCp5usD/yo3rgnFhEVTQmPJ+6w0ZPCYosDVUDc 5Nll8MfNwzGay3mgarb51QVGidQhljXgIwiO4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.41.2 with SMTP id t2mr7846739wfj.156.1286990592505; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.178.1 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:23:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4CB5E9F7.20203@msen.com> References: <4CB5E145.4030900@msen.com> <4CB5E9F7.20203@msen.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:23:12 +0000 Message-ID: From: Paul B Mahol To: Mark Moellering Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ndis driver causes kernel problems on boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:23:13 -0000 On 10/13/10, Mark Moellering wrote: > On 13-Oct-10 12:47 PM, Paul B Mahol wrote: >> On 10/13/10, Mark Moellering wrote: >>> I created a driver for my rtl8187 SE in my MSI Wind netbook using >>> ndisgen. >>> I placed the driver , rtl8187Se_sys.ko in /boot/modules >>> >>> I added rtl8187Se_sys_load="YES" in /boot/loader.conf >>> >>> I can kldload rtl8187Se_sys and everything seems OK. >>> If I reboot, however, I get the following error during boot (truncated >>> to what I think is the relevant info); >>> >>> Fata trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode >>> cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 >>> fault virtual address = 0xf00032d4 >>> fault code = supervisor read, page not present >>> ... >>> current process = 12 (swi4: clock) >>> >>> I am a little lost at this point. If I start in bootloader prompt mode, >>> I type; >>> OK> unload >>> OK> load /boot/kernel/kernel >>> OK> boot >>> >>> and everything works fine. >>> >>> Any and all help is appreciated. >> Some miniport drivers (or newer versions of drivers) tend to cause this. >> Workaround is to not use loader.conf to load miniport driver (in your >> case it is rtl8187Se_sys.ko) and instead load them (manually or >> automatically) after boot. >> > OK thanks. How would I do that exactly (automatically). I think I need > to create a shell script to execute the kldload commands but I am not > sure how/where I should call it. Thanks for your help. I am getting a > little burned out from reading man pages. Any and all help is apprciated /etc/rc.local > > Thanks for your help. > > Mark Moellering > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 17:26:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896CF106566B for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:26:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nekoexmachina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F7D8FC1E for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:26:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy21 with SMTP id 21so1134639ewy.13 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:26:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=87YxwkcKUBTJlwEHpQqzrk4a5lByffR8pX8rgDo31Hg=; b=amoiSNYRzDM+Bgh0ocmJh/C+P5hXOWCreZRvHRdAP8cAvM1QJhojdpOJ+zVPdd4yyS Y3nz4XNeHX3PsP4RSQT/zrRR8EAmlSvoG3xwuTZRxraxVwza36x3Tj6EEzpNB3JJsCxC yyw071HuZ5lQMkTGORZsZRCFfFp9MwwyJag9Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=pE6hq4Q2qJbfGDFn9aJ0DQ/QdlwVq+gDkOJFkoDWlQfME2XD9D5e6cyZwt7roQYPai 3glAp71JXS+6XadVRxxymtKOGxabJ3Efn1ScpwASkZcbej1uE4I9UedYpsJRbuot/jzW Jni76Oonop8OtcYnri4uPdzuTMniIKQZ4kwWM= Received: by 10.213.105.210 with SMTP id u18mr174090ebo.49.1286990810193; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([188.134.12.208]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q51sm1367297eeh.16.2010.10.13.10.26.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:24:01 +0000 From: Mikle Krutov To: Boris Samorodov Message-ID: <20101013212400.GA16636@takino.homeftp.org> References: <20101011185959.GA5900@takino.homeftp.org> <82193968@bb.ipt.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="UugvWAfsgieZRqgk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <82193968@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sacred Gold (Linux) on FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:26:53 -0000 --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 07:38:07PM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:59:59 +0000 Mikle Krutov wrote: > > > Has anyone had a positive experience with subj? > > As for me, it loads till the first load-screen state 'Ready' and hangs > > there. > > Nothing dumps in console. > > /var/log/messages may give some additional info as well as > a terminal window. nothing with $grep sacred /var/log/messages & bzgrep sacred /var/log/messages.* > > Any variant what to try to do? > > Have you read the FreeBSD Handbook, chapter 10, section 10.2? > BTW, output from commands "uname -a", "kldstat | grep linux" and > "pkg_info -Ix linux" may be helpful. > FreeBSD takino.homeftp.org 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #5: Mon Jul 26 18:53:39 UTC 2010 root@takino.homeftp.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TAKINO i386 2 2 0xc0f97000 2d8dc linux.ko pkginfo in attach. -- Old mercenaries never die. They go to hell and regroup. With best regards, Mikle Krutov, Bercut ltd. Technical Support department --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="pkg_info.log" linux-dri-7.4_1 Mesa-based DRI libraries, drivers and binaries (Linux Ubunt linux-f10-alsa-lib-1.0.21_1 The Advanced Linux Sound Architecture libraries (Linux Fedo linux-f10-arts-1.5.10 Audio system for the KDE integrated X11 desktop (Linux Fedo linux-f10-atk-1.24.0 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-cairo-1.8.0_1 Vector graphics library Cairo (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-curl-7.19.6_1 The command line tool for transferring files with URL synta linux-f10-cyrus-sasl2-2.1.22_1 RFC 2222 SASL (Simple Authentication and Security Layer) (L linux-f10-esound-0.2.41 RPM of esound (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-expat-2.0.1 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library (Linux linux-f10-flashplugin-10.1r85 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin linux-f10-fontconfig-2.6.0 An XML-based font configuration API for X Windows (Linux Fe linux-f10-gtk2-2.14.7_2 GTK+ library, version 2.X (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-jpeg-6b RPM of the JPEG lib (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-libaudiofile-0.2.6 An implementation of the Audio File Library from SGI (Linux linux-f10-libogg-1.1.3 Ogg bitstream library (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-libssh2-0.18 The library implementing the SSH2 protocol (Linux Fedora 10 linux-f10-libvorbis-1.2.0 Audio compression codec library (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-libxml2-2.7.3_2 Library providing XML and HTML support (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-nspr-4.7.6 Netscape Portable Runtime (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-nss-3.12.3.99.3_1 Network Security Services (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-openal-0.0.9 A 3D positional spatialized sound library (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-openldap-2.4.12_1 Lightweight Directory Access Protocol libraries (Linux Fedo linux-f10-openssl-0.9.8g The OpenSSL toolkit (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-pango-1.22.3_1 The pango library (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-png-1.2.37_1 RPM of the PNG lib (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-sdl-1.2.13 Cross-platform multi-media development API (Linux Fedora 10 linux-f10-sqlite3-3.5.9_1 The library that implements an embeddable SQL database engi linux-f10-tiff-3.8.2 The TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 10) linux_base-f10-10_3 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode for i386/amd64 (L linuxdcpp-1.0.3_4 A port of the DC++ direct connect client to POSIX-like syst --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 17:29:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66E3106566B; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:29:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A1D8FC0C; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:29:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 79793E81C0C; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:29:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:29:31 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20101013172931.GA18897@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> <20101012221020.1a8dcd90.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101012233002.GA4957@thought.org> <20101013014326.6630e3b5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101013032018.GA3163@thought.org> <20101013055906.bdc5f644.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Mailing List , Polytropon , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:29:29 -0000 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 09:03:21AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 13 Oct 2010, Polytropon wrote: > > >Correct. If you disable HAL, and your X is configured to run *WITH* > >HAL, it won't run anymore. Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (and if not > >present, create it) to make X work *WITHOUT* HAL. > > > >How it is to be done is described here: > > > >http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html > > I've followed only parts of this thread, and there are multiple > problems. First is installing X on a server. Second is a KVM > switch, many of which are problematic. Next is that the KVM > converts USB to PS/2, which... well, maybe it's fine. Finally, a > "jumpy mouse" problem with moused on console screams that it's the > KVM, not moused or USB or xorg config. Interesting that the mouse jumpiness has disappeared. I can switch to <-> computers by KVM and no problem. I'm about to add: Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" to my xorg.conf Done. I just noticed that in rc.conf is: # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Wed Oct 13 08:03:06 2010 moused_port="/dev/ums0" moused_type="auto" moused_enable="NO" and yet the console mouse is present. Strange... . > > My suggestion would be to *not* install X on a server. If it's > really required, use an actual keyboard and monitor on that server > for those times when ssh -X/-Y aren't enough, and avoid the KVM. > > >If you use a USB mouse, set moused_enable="NO", as the USB subsystem > >will call moused with the correct settings automatically. > > USB mice cause moused to be run anyway, but there are differences. > If you want switching between X and console to be fast, enable > moused. I vastly prefer X11 because it allows xterms and more. X is necessary on my server because of my UPS as well as because it will be my new printserver. okay, time for the big reboot... . > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 17:38:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91522106566C for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout023.mac.com (asmtpout023.mac.com [17.148.16.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790EB8FC16 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:38:23 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp023.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0LA800M7GOZKEJ10@asmtp023.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:38:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=5 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1010130100 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-10-13_08:2010-10-13, 2010-10-13, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:38:07 -0700 Message-id: References: To: Chetan Shukla X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: __FreeBSD__ not available and unsigned long type X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:38:23 -0000 On Oct 13, 2010, at 5:47 AM, Chetan Shukla wrote: > In my machine (8.0-RELEASE) I am not getting the macro __FreeBSD__. > As a workaround I have to conditionally define it in makefile. What does: touch foo.h; cpp -dM foo.h | grep FreeBSD ...return? Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 17:51:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2127106564A for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:51:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (asmtp2.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40BD08FC0A for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:51:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o9DHp8WZ000830; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:51:08 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o9DHp7EK000825; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:51:08 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AB1F733C1F; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:51:07 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:51:07 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Yuri Message-ID: <20101013175107.GA74687@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <4CB5E081.8070809@rawbw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4CB5E081.8070809@rawbw.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE-p1 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too many binary packages are missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:51:11 -0000 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 09:38:25AM -0700, Yuri wrote: > > I am updating i386 system (portupgrade -aP) and whole lot of binary > packages are missing. > For example, gcc-4.5.0, qt4-corelib are examples of large packages that > are missing that don't require too many dependencies and are very basic. gcc is in base as cc(1). There are a metric ton of qt4 ports and they are not basic in that they are not required if you don't use KDE or its applications. > > I know, it may be caused by failed dependencies, copyright restrictions, > etc. But it's hard to imagive why they are missing for these two: no > copyright restrictions, and almost no dependencies. > > This unfortunately slows down many people. > Is there any solution to this problem? Maybe people just forget about > this build server and some minor fix wil help? It's a case of having space on the servers IIRC. Also some require too many options to be set at build time (probably the problem with qt). I know it's the reason why OO.o is not packaged - too many languages & other options. > > Yuri Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 18:00:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12CD1106564A for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22A88FC0A for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o9DI0S9U030282; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:00:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4CB5F3BA.6050801@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:00:26 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100930 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Shute References: <4CB5E081.8070809@rawbw.com> <20101013175107.GA74687@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20101013175107.GA74687@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too many binary packages are missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:00:30 -0000 On 10/13/2010 10:51, Frank Shute wrote: > gcc is in base as cc(1). There are a metric ton of qt4 ports and they > are not basic in that they are not required if you don't use KDE or > its applications. > Base has 4.2.1 and not updating (waiting for LLVM conversion maybe). So many ports require various gcc versions to be installed. Mostly to build them at buildtime, and libraries at runtime. And turns out that binaries for these extra gcc packages are missing for some reason. And QT is one of the major graphics toolkits. Various random packages use them as well as KDE. Pretty basic thing. > It's a case of having space on the servers IIRC. > > Also some require too many options to be set at build time (probably > the problem with qt). I know it's the reason why OO.o is not packaged > - too many languages& other options. > I am not sure how Debian packages handle this. They seem to support all the same options and are always in binaries. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 18:06:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3197C106566B for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:06:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDAA58FC12 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:06:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz16 with SMTP id 16so2822281bwz.13 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:06:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/24TSu5GswI3n5jZODIJCXNvgCTKn+oha2mPhidt5us=; b=sbnBnK6iW3EnHfsQg+1lQZpIrYAZeLC0mzPNP9Vg+vpWNVbSyQVROj78UGLu+bHCYo AGpm7bLBzlonEiCdlzqxSxca2/vNqZE6QwpVV28O3ZRmqW0/QrTuH4KUMB4+60iS1Mk8 9an98DI/jwfDEICSsZdYjt685gnSQtPhxNrGM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Oy4wUye47Qm1knwF2MXGtLY5IzB0ZTqr5x31wof0C3TrwzKdkC+MSCIfpj3Y0zSGzH 0s1GPVNhm876vMgbIKUozBuTdDTLwrxVlxJ9LmHqULf2ElE+ABfnFjEJVYfHxGArNZi6 JWRupRtP6HeaJZ67QDlC3qm3Vi/YIZUXRR2dk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.70.67 with SMTP id c3mr8096383bkj.62.1286993215589; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.59.137 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:06:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4CB5F3BA.6050801@rawbw.com> References: <4CB5E081.8070809@rawbw.com> <20101013175107.GA74687@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4CB5F3BA.6050801@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:06:55 -0400 Message-ID: From: Pierre-Luc Drouin To: Yuri Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Frank Shute , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too many binary packages are missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:06:59 -0000 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Yuri wrote: > On 10/13/2010 10:51, Frank Shute wrote: > >> gcc is in base as cc(1). There are a metric ton of qt4 ports and they >> are not basic in that they are not required if you don't use KDE or >> its applications. >> >> > > Base has 4.2.1 and not updating (waiting for LLVM conversion maybe). So > many ports require various gcc versions to be installed. Mostly to build > them at buildtime, and libraries at runtime. And turns out that binaries for > these extra gcc packages are missing for some reason. > > And QT is one of the major graphics toolkits. Various random packages use > them as well as KDE. Pretty basic thing. > > It's a case of having space on the servers IIRC. >> >> Also some require too many options to be set at build time (probably >> the problem with qt). I know it's the reason why OO.o is not packaged >> - too many languages& other options. >> >> > > I am not sure how Debian packages handle this. They seem to support all the > same options and are always in binaries. > I think it would be nice if at least one binary package was available with the most "typical" dependencies. For example, I am not a native English speaker, but I would not mind using the English version OO if I could download it as a binary package... Just my $0.02... > Yuri > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 18:17:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7081065670 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:17:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7C18FC1E for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:17:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (ethic.thought.org [10.47.0.230]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o9DIHGQB001297; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:17:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 kline@thought.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:17:16 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20101013181713.GA1250@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Subject: YO: __Mouse Working On Cedars_ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:17:23 -0000 Guys, I am logged in as root, did a startx into the twn default, and I have a working mouse. Now I have not tried switching over to my desktop and bac to see if everything still works. If/if-not, at least it works this way. At least noe I know that I can set up my ye-olden ctwm desktop here as root. Maybe use it as a template as ~kline. Lots of off and ends to fix here on my server, but at least now it is clear that the USB stuff does work acros OS's: Ubuntu and FreeBSD. thanks to a slew of you guys who stuck wirh me the past two+ days, "T" out, need a shot of java, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org ethic From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 18:34:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F251065670 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE86B8FC16 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29303 invoked by uid 0); 13 Oct 2010 18:34:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 13 Oct 2010 18:34:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=O+GbhyylbbWnqIswxwYBJwo9oUjzIp6GMV3p4IwjCnV9f9p3ZUZaIMxtsFZhS9uWahN3dqQT2pPQKjkiNMV0iKP0lEXqEt69gZic4xoIa3YIY1JB6jZ+Pz/0TNh0EJF3; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P669p-0004P2-Kh for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:34:34 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:29:41 -0600 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:29:41 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101013182941.GA6404@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4CB5E081.8070809@rawbw.com> <20101013175107.GA74687@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4CB5F3BA.6050801@rawbw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Too many binary packages are missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:34:36 -0000 --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 02:06:55PM -0400, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: >=20 > I think it would be nice if at least one binary package was available with > the most "typical" dependencies. For example, I am not a native English > speaker, but I would not mind using the English version OO if I could > download it as a binary package... Just my $0.02... =2E . . without Java, given Java's licensing restrictions. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAky1+pUACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXejQCg7UuEju+0AXb8Uhf+jVAZxT59 CoMAoMiQ/U4hNwYswNezkYyT95yzxUnq =h+1U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 19:19:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC22C106566B for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:19:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from oceanpt.safeport.com (oceanpt.safeport.com [65.122.17.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929298FC08 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:19:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oceanpt.safeport.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o9DJJg69026467 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:19:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:19:42 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (oceanpt.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:19:42 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Subject: Support for the intel Ironlake Mobile Graphics Chipset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:19:43 -0000 It appears (hopefully) that support for this may appear in FreeBSD 9. I infer that some kernel support for DRM involves kernel support (http://wiki.freebsd.org/DriDrivers) if so I think thats really too bad as all the ~400 pieces of Xorg which develop at their own pace makes this a hard (or at least delicate) process for the kernel team to support Xorg. Anyway this chip is sorta supported by the vesa driver with apparently the only resolutions supported being 1024x768 and 800x600. That really too bad (for me) as the video I have supports 1600x900, 1440x900, 1366x768, 1360x768, 1280x800, 1280x768, and 1280x720. My questions: is this the correct list to seek help on; and, is there any way to configure the vesa driver to support any other resolution. I do not need DRM or anything other than a better screen resolution. _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 19:36:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069AD1065672 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:36:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bluethundr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889DA8FC17 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:36:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz16 with SMTP id 16so2910694bwz.13 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:36:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=bgFr1JyGQ46iet30setCU2OaMfQrOIsTXEnJSkYSttc=; b=YPCvxu37D+/lEPAfhZMNd5iN/yxeyfpLAjBTTlNLIYjo/41k2vNEc7ICu2EZexIuYJ ZdoWrbWvS8SQoD0YRCqfxqVHFauYOKfJ3dnRZ1GLHLaSGiFLTYyKThwFCoE1anVdPia4 8ac8HqBC8qJuEJ4eBkPuqKNs0RvO5fpBxnmH4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=B+OcUPeh5Dj4LKVaKkl/EGhmDKPDkvUYlj2j5ZIfhOBMz4XMo8O7H2BPbo3O8hCXEX ioHR2yiHZ/NKQRXNCdnK4q8MHY5+rTtn4vG8q3bj9aE3EhWMWlHuf6TV6GzxVis0Az3K wLd+suOBFbW30jRDLeK2Q1ozVqbB9BhUAzfeQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.69.193 with SMTP id a1mr7280104bkj.108.1286998576776; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.69.144 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:36:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201010131737.09756.milu@dat.pl> References: <201010131737.09756.milu@dat.pl> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:36:16 -0400 Message-ID: From: Tim Dunphy To: Maciej Milewski Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrating to openldap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:36:20 -0000 Maciej, thanks for the suggestion! I did give it a try but the result did not change.. Here is a copy-paste of what I tried: LBSD2# echo $LDAP_BASE dc=summitnjhome,dc=com LBSD2# ./migrate_base.pl > /home/bluethundr/txt/ldif/base.ldif LBSD2# less /home/bluethundr/txt/ldif/base.ldif dn: dc=padl,dc=com dc: padl objectClass: top objectClass: domain dn: ou=Hosts,dc=padl,dc=com ou: Hosts objectClass: top objectClass: organizationalUnit dn: ou=Rpc,dc=padl,dc=com ou: Rpc objectClass: top objectClass: organizationalUnit I mean I guess worse comes to worse I can break out some command line perl and replace dc=padl with dc=summitnjhome but it would be cleaner /faster I think to see if I can get the environment variable to be read by the various scripts. I would appreciate any thoughts on the matter... thanks again! On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Maciej Milewski wrote: > On Wednesday 13 October 2010 16:08:35, Tim Dunphy wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I am attempting to migrate my local user setup to openldap under > >> FreeBSD 8.1. My server is currently running nicely. > >> > >> At the moment, sudoers is imported into openldap-server24. But > >> services that authenticate through PAM (such as su and ssh) are > >> currently not working. > >> > >> I notice that the CentOS version of openldap24 has a really nice set > >> of perl scripts suited to this purpose. > >> > >> So I rsynced them over to my BSD box in the hopes of using them. > >> > >> LBSD2# ls > >> README migrate_group.pl > >> migrate_aliases.pl migrate_hosts.pl > >> migrate_all_netinfo_offline.sh migrate_netgroup.pl > >> migrate_all_netinfo_online.sh migrate_netgroup_byhost.pl > >> migrate_all_nis_offline.sh migrate_netgroup_byuser.pl > >> migrate_all_nis_online.sh migrate_networks.pl > >> migrate_all_nisplus_offline.sh migrate_passwd.pl > >> migrate_all_nisplus_online.sh migrate_profile.pl > >> migrate_all_offline.sh migrate_protocols.pl > >> migrate_all_online.sh migrate_rpc.pl > >> migrate_automount.pl migrate_services.pl > >> migrate_base.pl migrate_slapd_conf.pl > >> migrate_common.ph migration-tools.txt > >> migrate_fstab.pl > >> > >> What one needs to do is set an environment variable for your base DN > >> and then run the scripts. > >> > >> LBSD2# echo $DEFAULT_BASE > >> dc=summitnjhome,dc=com > >> > >> > >> LBSD2# ./migrate_base.pl > /home/bluethundr/txt/base.ldif > >> > >> But for some reason the scripts running under BSD don't see the base > >> dn that i set, whereas when I run them under CentOS they do. > >> > >> Now, I could edit the resulting file by hand, but that isn't a very > >> practical solution. Does anyone know if there are either existing > >> FreeBSD versions of these migration scripts or have a tip for helping > >> me get these to run under FreeBSD? > >> > >> Thanks!!! > > The migrationtools page[1] says this about > > $DEFAULT_BASE > > The naming suffix to use in entries' distinguished names. If undefined, this > will be constructed by mapping the mail domain name into a distinguished > name (eg aceindustry.com becomes dc=aceindustry,dc=com). You may override > this with the LDAP_BASEDN environment variable. > > Have you tried that? > > 1.http://www.padl.com/OSS/MigrationTools.html > > -- > > Maciej Milewski -- Here's my RSA Public key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 5A4873A9 Share and enjoy!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 20:11:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A7C1065672 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:11:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C5B8FC08 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o9DKBKZG025343 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:11:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o9DKBJVo072649 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:11:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o9DKBJmV072648; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:11:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:11:19 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Tim Dunphy Message-ID: <20101013201119.GB5644@dan.emsphone.com> References: <201010131737.09756.milu@dat.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.3 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:11:20 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: Maciej Milewski , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrating to openldap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:11:24 -0000 In the last episode (Oct 13), Tim Dunphy said: > Maciej, thanks for the suggestion! I did give it a try but the result > did not change.. Here is a copy-paste of what I tried: > > LBSD2# echo $LDAP_BASE > dc=summitnjhome,dc=com > LBSD2# ./migrate_base.pl > /home/bluethundr/txt/ldif/base.ldif Make sure you have exported that variable. By default variables are shell-local and child processes won't see them. Try running export LDAP_BASE and see if that helps. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 20:13:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5441065673 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:13:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milu@dat.pl) Received: from jab.dat.pl (dat.pl [80.51.155.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4B78FC1A for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:13:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jab.dat.pl (jsrv.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B396955; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:13:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dat.pl Received: from jab.dat.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (jab.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id yanOcklMw3+K; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:13:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from snifi.localnet (87-205-192-238.adsl.inetia.pl [87.205.192.238]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CCE153A; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:13:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Maciej Milewski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:13:55 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.35-ARCH; KDE/4.5.2; x86_64; ; ) References: <201010131737.09756.milu@dat.pl> In-Reply-To: X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201010132213.55683.milu@dat.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Tim Dunphy Subject: Re: migrating to openldap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:13:51 -0000 On Wednesday 13 October 2010 21:36:16, Tim Dunphy wrote: > Maciej, thanks for the suggestion! I did give it a try but the result > did not change.. Here is a copy-paste of what I tried: > > LBSD2# echo $LDAP_BASE > dc=summitnjhome,dc=com Not LDAP_BASE but LDAP_BASEDN. It works with stock migrationtools from padl.com. > I mean I guess worse comes to worse I can break out some command line > perl and replace dc=padl with dc=summitnjhome but it would be cleaner > /faster I think to see if I can get the environment variable to be > read by the various scripts. I would appreciate any thoughts on the > matter... > > thanks again! You don't have to, look into these migrate_*.pl files they all should include the same file where you can change these defaults with needed ones. -- Maciej Milewski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 20:23:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A601065673 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:23:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bluethundr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD5C8FC18 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:23:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz16 with SMTP id 16so2956438bwz.13 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:23:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/RMtJWNKc2XEzFHfWKrdMvy+9rQgwW2Gf7jnnPPOp1A=; b=dMZ7uaRIBcZ0zEeWMthzu8Qf6yOz2b2+geQ/rqGa8DC5UfNOpK4ruj5n0nqYdUjcqT /5miGfrSc9qVcaxxMFMVzbMCDH8EoDQpjTPJO6TIKsyxCMY3n11WYXOCj7J89Ae8QQxp 26QaJm/EiqAmUwYhMosiTphS152YIf0G/prLA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=S0PQHPkd+YwLdBYOeLyWaIaaKN9+KKpA0J1mYalOZ1C6ILYQcOAQdRgGqsOEMYXYWX KE25Yr98OJ3oNX0NB2Yl4BMIPKmdZYaGjcPr+OTz8D+Kd16KdbAqpcU3ANT0U+5rGBT9 gv6V/OQfd62PkaB+pYnZmF62uOyIDVbMI5fAg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.103.9 with SMTP id i9mr8004573bko.192.1287001397975; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.69.144 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:23:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201010132213.55683.milu@dat.pl> References: <201010131737.09756.milu@dat.pl> <201010132213.55683.milu@dat.pl> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:23:17 -0400 Message-ID: From: Tim Dunphy To: Maciej Milewski Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrating to openldap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:23:23 -0000 Actually, I was trying this as root on FBSD.. so therefore I was using csh.. but that's 6 of one half dozen of the other. At any rate, your suggestion WORKED!! THANK YOU a ton man, this really helped!! :))) LBSD2# setenv LDAP_BASEDN "dc=summitnjhome,dc=com" You have new mail. LBSD2# echo $LDAP_BASEDN dc=summitnjhome,dc=com LBSD2# rm /home/bluethundr/txt/ldif/base.ldif LBSD2# ./migrate_base.pl > /home/bluethundr/txt/ldif/base.ldif LBSD2# less /home/bluethundr/txt/ldif/base.ldif dn: dc=summitnjhome,dc=com dc: summitnjhome objectClass: top objectClass: domain dn: ou=Hosts,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com ou: Hosts objectClass: top objectClass: organizationalUnit dn: ou=Rpc,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com ou: Rpc objectClass: top objectClass: organizationalUnit dn: ou=Services,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com ou: Services objectClass: top objectClass: organizationalUnit dn: nisMapName=netgroup.byuser,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com nismapname: netgroup.byuser objectClass: top objectClass: nisMap On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Maciej Milewski wrote: > On Wednesday 13 October 2010 21:36:16, Tim Dunphy wrote: > >> Maciej, thanks for the suggestion! I did give it a try but the result > >> did not change.. Here is a copy-paste of what I tried: > >> > >> LBSD2# echo $LDAP_BASE > >> dc=summitnjhome,dc=com > > Not LDAP_BASE but LDAP_BASEDN. It works with stock migrationtools from > padl.com. > >> I mean I guess worse comes to worse I can break out some command line > >> perl and replace dc=padl with dc=summitnjhome but it would be cleaner > >> /faster I think to see if I can get the environment variable to be > >> read by the various scripts. I would appreciate any thoughts on the > >> matter... > >> > >> thanks again! > > You don't have to, look into these migrate_*.pl files they all should > include the same file where you can change these defaults with needed ones. > > -- > > Maciej Milewski -- Here's my RSA Public key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 5A4873A9 Share and enjoy!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 20:44:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D761065672; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:44:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEECF8FC1C; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:44:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-73-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.73.80]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08821EEE2; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:44:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o9DKikVG001518; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:44:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:44:46 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Message-Id: <20101013224446.382b5293.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> <20101012221020.1a8dcd90.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101012233002.GA4957@thought.org> <20101013014326.6630e3b5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101013032018.GA3163@thought.org> <20101013055906.bdc5f644.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gary Kline , Mailing List , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:44:49 -0000 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:03:21 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > I've followed only parts of this thread, and there are multiple > problems. First is installing X on a server. And first + one half is running X as root. :-) As it is only for testing, no big deal, but I did want to just mention it. > Second is a KVM switch, > many of which are problematic. That's true. The key problem is the switching from / to a particular machine, and how it handles this process. On the early models where wires were switched "purely electrically", this caused the system to lose a device. Some more modern KVM switches seem to provide a "dummy" signal so the device isn't lost (as in the view of the system), but I doubt this is a standard method. > Next is that the KVM converts USB to > PS/2, which... well, maybe it's fine. Erm, no. As far as I understood now, the KVM switch is USB only, or to be more precise: At least the mouse is USB - no PS/2 handling in between. > Finally, a "jumpy mouse" problem > with moused on console screams that it's the KVM, not moused or USB or > xorg config. I'm not 100% sure about that. Your article located at http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html states: Other times, particularly if hald is running, typed characters don't show up on the screen until the mouse is moved, and mouse movement itself is jerky and doesn't react smoothly. I thought about something like that. > My suggestion would be to *not* install X on a server. And this would eliminate the problem, as the keyboard (the main input method for console-driven dialog) seems to work as inteded through the KVM switch. > If it's really > required, use an actual keyboard and monitor on that server for those > times when ssh -X/-Y aren't enough, and avoid the KVM. Often the best solution, at least im ny experience. I have used KVM switches in the past, but found them often problematic (as shown in this thread), so my first choice is networked access, and if neccessary, "hardware access". In some cases, a serial line with a terminal (or an old laptop resembling a terminal, using DOS and the KERMIT terminal emulator) is fully sufficient, and VERY well supported by FreeBSD. > USB mice cause moused to be run anyway, but there are differences. If > you want switching between X and console to be fast, enable moused. And this is possible in combination with devd that "remote-contols" moused for USB mice? And does moused handle "disappearing" and "reappearing" devices properly? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 20:48:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C808F1065679 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:48:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efinley.lists@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810EA8FC08 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:48:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk4 with SMTP id 4so1349116gxk.13 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:48:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=rwCxtBRf5woChWBQlU9HwwMpiv8W8bxL9yYZ2ni9maI=; b=RP+7eaaiAf3fEv2QDlMXJfIr+bj85NDxnAqPJZNGYAdxh8e3e2zzdbZkuwuLBkv00a zEy8DT5JoSd/Mfo9oEYK9PXW2S0CD3V/mhrMdVsaHJ5FuUdp6pE2ex74x52QuDBsN8uU 51F9nR01ZYJq9GA5W6j9CuVIuLH68TapKYLiY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=yEOnKwsh48II3X8rtIDeL0AI9YvhhcNY30EBQqEj6kdJ90RQTFUoK/u8OUGoB5y5Q+ RsJxLl09y80Hs75Zq7vJgrGHUv+5ZycII/aOa6cCMpoYHHy+fi6NMuifEUZpOllb5ydy YplWDrN/pw19Pc6Hix7/dTo8PGWnstbkk0eo8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.164.9 with SMTP id e9mr750294icy.337.1287001524826; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.34.75 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:25:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4CB5C9FE.90101@dichotomia.fr> References: <4CB5C9FE.90101@dichotomia.fr> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:25:24 -0600 Message-ID: From: Elliot Finley To: Jerome Herman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is it a good idea to use DHCP for point to point connections ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:48:13 -0000 we did this with DSL customers. But instead of using a unique gateway for each Client, just use IP Unnumbered and proxy arp for your loopback interface. On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Jerome Herman wrote: > Hello, > > Given the price (an tedious management) of layer 3 switches I was thinking > about using modified DHCP to distribute addresses with a /32 netmask > (255.255.255.255) > > The Idea : Create a cheap (and preferably not dirty) way to have client > isolation, without creating tons of vlan. > > Pratictal overview : The DHCP server will be serving IP addresses and > gateways with a /32 mask. > Client1 would recieve IP adress of 241.0.0.1 with a netmask of > 255.255.255.255 and a gateway of 240.0.0.1 > Client2 would recieve IP adress of 241.0.0.2 with a netmask of > 255.255.255.255 and a gateway of 240.0.0.2 > Client3 would recieve IP adress of 241.0.0.3 with a netmask of > 255.255.255.255 and a gateway of 240.0.0.3 > etc. > > Of course the gateway will have to have as many IP as there are clients > (Unless I am mistaken) > > The questions : > - Is there something similar already existing ? It must not require any > configuration on the client side other than activating DHCP. > - Would this work ? I do not see why it would not, though I am a little > anxious about having tens of point to point connections going to the same > physical port. > - I could not find anything forbidding it in RFC2131, but then again I > might be wrong. Am I ? > - One problem remains that is solved by vlan isolation but not by DHCP > isolation : rogue DHCP servers. Any Idea to crush those ? > > I hope it is not inappropriate to post this on this list. But it is an > interesting problem (I think). > > Jerome Herman > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 20:58:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE260106566B for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:58:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B5C8FC17 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:58:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 97-126-31-125.tukw.qwest.net ([97.126.31.125] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P68FY-0007oz-P9 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:48:38 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:58:26 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:58:26 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20101013205826.GB3332@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="E/DnYTRukya0zdZ1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Cc: Subject: Re: Support for the intel Ironlake Mobile Graphics Chipset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:58:32 -0000 --E/DnYTRukya0zdZ1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth doug@safeport.com on Wednesday, 13 October 2010: > It appears (hopefully) that support for this may appear in FreeBSD 9. I= =20 > infer that some kernel support for DRM involves kernel support=20 > (http://wiki.freebsd.org/DriDrivers) if so I think thats really too bad a= s=20 > all the ~400 pieces of Xorg which develop at their own pace makes this a= =20 > hard (or at least delicate) process for the kernel team to support Xorg. >=20 > Anyway this chip is sorta supported by the vesa driver with apparently th= e=20 > only resolutions supported being 1024x768 and 800x600. That really too ba= d=20 > (for me) as the video I have supports 1600x900, 1440x900, 1366x768,=20 > 1360x768, 1280x800, 1280x768, and 1280x720. >=20 > My questions: is this the correct list to seek help on; and, is there any= =20 > way to configure the vesa driver to support any other resolution. I do no= t=20 > need DRM or anything other than a better screen resolution. >=20 >=20 > _____ > Douglas Denault > http://www.safeport.com > doug@safeport.com > Voice: 301-217-9220 > Fax: 301-217-9277 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" I hope you're right, I'd like to get this support as soon as possible. I haven't found a way to get beyond 1024x768 on vesa, or to get any other driver to work. I'm looking for 1600x900 on my ASUS K72F with Intel Integrated HD graphics. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --E/DnYTRukya0zdZ1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMth1yAAoJEIpckszW26+RNbcH/0nvhS7sq1EAxWhFiYbv/vrO gpbN6KoGaA42eMCaudM0evDq79sXqV/Cqi/rlVoLrRNg+/AF/3fhQC5VDp9lBaxA n+ujSfPiigPlW3Rx8Ez47TgOPSdZf2qijJQUN05Vcpl36AkgA2F7Fo0HaUHt3khx m6rSaoe/3TlP2y1pxVVOI5RiNqsVyqAJvYPN0VHLgQ1Lk6O7Jc/DZRYb8OpYxl6p C+iUmDxSfEjStnqClzzW1iGev/YRgyIiNWOHI1Qqgaqc+WKeo9VuiqwCxcZd2y5J uQzKdKQcPXUTA8ag2tnQZRpWahaDAVWFn+7Cse1uIcuIfRwMnFmFkvebtTpvks4= =HyOH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --E/DnYTRukya0zdZ1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 21:11:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A78A106564A; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:11:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A9D8FC1B; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:11:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-73-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.73.80]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E071E225; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:11:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o9DLBME3001585; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:11:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:11:22 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20101013231122.3b32695b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20101013172931.GA18897@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> <20101012221020.1a8dcd90.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101012233002.GA4957@thought.org> <20101013014326.6630e3b5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101013032018.GA3163@thought.org> <20101013055906.bdc5f644.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101013172931.GA18897@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mailing List , Polytropon , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:11:24 -0000 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:29:31 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > I just noticed that in rc.conf is: > > > # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Wed Oct 13 08:03:06 2010 > moused_port="/dev/ums0" > moused_type="auto" > moused_enable="NO" > > and yet the console mouse is present. Strange... . Explaination: USB mice are handled by devd. So if the system detects the presence of a ums device, devd "remote-controls" moused to activate this mouse. # The entry below starts moused when a mouse is plugged in. Moused # stops automatically (actually it bombs :) when the device disappears. attach 100 { device-name "ums[0-9]+"; action "/etc/rc.d/moused start $device-name"; }; This is from /etc/devd.conf. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 21:21:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D81D106566C; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:21:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hselasky@c2i.net) Received: from swip.net (mailfe03.swip.net [212.247.154.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EEA18FC17; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:21:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=iBCGAMPDYtSF9sDXX85uHY3wcnYctfVT8vFpe3qPflY= c=1 sm=1 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=CL8lFSKtTFcA:10 a=i9M/sDlu2rpZ9XS819oYzg==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=gZGBtQszAAAA:8 a=ss6Kg6i7JoXQLLDt6uwA:9 a=WivaxZBAZ3XfS-ISFL0A:7 a=9sxPPbpdpcFe7vYZvRodiBwSqh8A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=i9M/sDlu2rpZ9XS819oYzg==:117 Received: from [188.126.198.129] (account mc467741@c2i.net HELO laptop002.hselasky.homeunix.org) by mailfe03.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.19) with ESMTPA id 34875630; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:21:41 +0200 From: Hans Petter Selasky To: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:22:59 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-STABLE; KDE/4.4.5; amd64; ; ) References: <4CA3B8F5.80904@gmail.com> <44bp753ejp.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4CB0308B.7070908@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4CB0308B.7070908@gmail.com> X-Face: +~\`s("[*|O,="7?X@L.elg*F"OA\I/3%^p8g?ab%RN'(; _IjlA: hGE..Ew, XAQ*o#\/M~SC=S1-f9{EzRfT'|Hhll5Q]ha5Bt-s|oTlKMusi:1e[wJl}kd}GR Z0adGx-x_0zGbZj'e(Y[(UNle~)8CQWXW@:DX+9)_YlB[tIccCPN$7/L' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201010132322.59684.hselasky@c2i.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Anselm Strauss Subject: Re: USB disk on CS5536 unstable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:21:44 -0000 On Saturday 09 October 2010 11:06:19 Anselm Strauss wrote: > On 10/07/10 22:59, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > Anselm Strauss writes: > >> On 10/02/10 16:39, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > >>> On Saturday 02 October 2010 14:44:07 Anselm Strauss wrote: > >>>> On 09/30/10 21:38, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > >>>>> On Thursday 30 September 2010 21:10:59 Anselm Strauss wrote: > >>>>>> Maybe sending it to just the USB list was too specific ... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 09/30/10 00:08, Anselm Strauss wrote: > >>>>>>> Hi > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have an ALIX board that has an AMD Geode and the CS5536 companion > >>>>>>> chip with integrated USB on it. When I connect a USB disk I have > >>>>>>> observed various problems. For example when I run fsck_ufs on a 250 > >>>>>>> GB partition the process gets stuck in biord state and fsck > >>>>>>> reports unreadable sectors. When I do a dd over the whole disk and > >>>>>>> direct it to /dev/null it suddenly returns with no error, but > >>>>>>> having read only a small fraction of the disk. I tried it with two > >>>>>>> different disks and two different ALIX boards. I'm pretty sure the > >>>>>>> disks are okay since I tried them on other hardware. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> As far as I know there was some trouble with the chip regarding > >>>>>>> timeouts. Under load after some time the USB just stops responding. > >>>>>>> I have tried 8.0 and 8.1. Is there any known problem? How can I > >>>>>>> track this down? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Anselm > >>>>> > >>>>> If you compile the kernel with USB_DEBUG, then there are some sysctls > >>>>> under hw.usb.ehci which you can tweak. Needs to be set before boot. > >>>>> > >>>>> --HPS > >>>> > >>>> Did not know that there were configurable bug workarounds in sysctl. > >>>> When I set hw.usb.ehci.lostintrbug=1 in /boot/loader.conf the problems > >>>> seem gone. > >>>> > >>>> Without this setting I got the following kernel message when dd did > >>>> abort: > >>>> > >>>> ehci_timeout: xfer=0xc29cd3c8 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Anselm > >>> > >>> Maybe you can report the PCI vendor ID and product so that we can add > >>> this quirk. > >>> > >>> --HPS > >> > >> Not sure what a "PCI vendor ID" is and how to determine it. It's a ALIX > >> 2d2 from http://pcengines.ch/alix. > > > > pciconf(8) will tell you. Try sending "pciconf -l" output. > > -> pciconf -lv > hostb0@pci0:0:1:0: class=0x060000 card=0x20801022 chip=0x20801022 > rev=0x33 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices (AMD)' > device = 'Conrad Kostecki' > class = bridge > subclass = HOST-PCI > none0@pci0:0:1:2: class=0x101000 card=0x20821022 chip=0x20821022 > rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices (AMD)' > device = 'Geode GX3 AES Crypto Driver (GX3)' > class = encrypt/decrypt > vr0@pci0:0:9:0: class=0x020000 card=0x01061106 chip=0x30531106 rev=0x96 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'VIA Technologies, Inc.' > device = 'Rhine III Management Adapter (VT6105M)' > class = network > subclass = ethernet > vr1@pci0:0:11:0: class=0x020000 card=0x01061106 chip=0x30531106 rev=0x96 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'VIA Technologies, Inc.' > device = 'Rhine III Management Adapter (VT6105M)' > class = network > subclass = ethernet > ath0@pci0:0:12:0: class=0x020000 card=0x1600185f chip=0x001b168c > rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.' > device = 'AR5006 family 802.11abg Wireless NIC' > class = network > subclass = ethernet > isab0@pci0:0:15:0: class=0x060100 card=0x20901022 chip=0x20901022 > rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices (AMD)' > device = 'CS5536 [Geode companion] ISA' > class = bridge > subclass = PCI-ISA > atapci0@pci0:0:15:2: class=0x010180 card=0x209a1022 chip=0x209a1022 > rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices (AMD)' > device = 'CS5536 IDE Controller (CS5536)' > class = mass storage > subclass = ATA > ohci0@pci0:0:15:4: class=0x0c0310 card=0x20941022 chip=0x20941022 > rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices (AMD)' > device = 'CS5536 OHCI USB Host Controller (CS5536)' > class = serial bus > subclass = USB > ehci0@pci0:0:15:5: class=0x0c0320 card=0x20951022 chip=0x20951022 > rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices (AMD)' > device = 'CS5536 EHCI USB Host Controller (CS5536)' > class = serial bus > subclass = USB Hi, Can you add this device to the quirk entries in: sys/dev/usb/controller/ehci.c verify the patched driver and attach it to a FreeBSD PR? --HPS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 21:42:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D461065673 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hselasky@c2i.net) Received: from swip.net (mailfe08.swip.net [212.247.154.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9711E8FC2B for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:42:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=4dE6tNKVm/0afO7MQGRPv7y2YwMo4emTIiDjbh74onY= c=1 sm=1 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=CL8lFSKtTFcA:10 a=i9M/sDlu2rpZ9XS819oYzg==:17 a=OE56jvO7hTK9SU9letsA:9 a=N6AnDskwoiMNnaXM6-dMwmM60csA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=i9M/sDlu2rpZ9XS819oYzg==:117 Received: from [188.126.198.129] (account mc467741@c2i.net HELO laptop002.hselasky.homeunix.org) by mailfe08.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.19) with ESMTPA id 34766841 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:27:00 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Hans Petter Selasky X-Face: +~\`s("[*|O,="7?X@L.elg*F"OA\I/3%^p8g?ab%RN'( =?iso-8859-1?q?=3B=5FIjlA=3A=0A=09hGE=2E=2EEw?=, =?iso-8859-1?q?XAQ*o=23=5C/M=7ESC=3DS1-f9=7BEzRfT=27=7CHhll5Q=5Dha5Bt-s=7Co?= =?iso-8859-1?q?TlKMusi=3A1e=5BwJl=7Dkd=7DGR=0A=09Z0adGx-x=5F0zGbZj=27e?=(Y[(UNle~)8CQWXW@:DX+9)_YlB[tIccCPN$7/L' Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:28:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201010132328.19194.hselasky@c2i.net> Subject: Re: USB disk on CS5536 unstable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:42:02 -0000 On Wednesday 13 October 2010 23:22:59 Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > Can you add this device to the quirk entries in: > > sys/dev/usb/controller/ehci.c ehci_pci.c actually. --HPS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 21:59:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776411065672 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:59:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F088FC08 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:59:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-73-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.73.80]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE7F3D3F1; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:58:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o9DLww16001694; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:58:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:58:58 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Pierre-Luc Drouin Message-Id: <20101013235858.d23d9279.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4CB5E081.8070809@rawbw.com> <20101013175107.GA74687@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4CB5F3BA.6050801@rawbw.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too many binary packages are missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:59:01 -0000 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:06:55 -0400, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: > I think it would be nice if at least one binary package was available with > the most "typical" dependencies. For example, I am not a native English > speaker, but I would not mind using the English version OO if I could > download it as a binary package... Just my $0.02... Just imagine - in the past, you could "pkg_add -r fr-openoffice" to get a french (I assume you are, according to your name) localized version of OpenOffice *including* a french dictionary! Unbelievable! A miracle! Magic! :-) (OpenOffice is the *only* program *I* use in the german version.) It's sad that those easy times seem to be over... In case of OpenOffice, I would say "as few dependencies as needed" would be a good approach. I mean... everyone is talking about modularity in software, about exchangable components and so on, so THIS would be a good place to use those concepts, like let a program "dynamically" pick up optional components if they are installed, or work without them if not. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 23:09:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916A3106566B; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:09:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B6C8FC18; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:09:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9CD0CE81C0C; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:09:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:09:16 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20101013230916.GA20439@thought.org> References: <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> <20101012221020.1a8dcd90.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101012233002.GA4957@thought.org> <20101013014326.6630e3b5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101013032018.GA3163@thought.org> <20101013055906.bdc5f644.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101013172931.GA18897@thought.org> <20101013231122.3b32695b.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101013231122.3b32695b.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Mailing List , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:09:15 -0000 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:11:22PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:29:31 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > I just noticed that in rc.conf is: > > > > > > # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Wed Oct 13 08:03:06 2010 > > moused_port="/dev/ums0" > > moused_type="auto" > > moused_enable="NO" > > > > and yet the console mouse is present. Strange... . > > Explaination: USB mice are handled by devd. So if the system > detects the presence of a ums device, devd "remote-controls" > moused to activate this mouse. > > # The entry below starts moused when a mouse is plugged in. Moused > # stops automatically (actually it bombs :) when the device disappears. > attach 100 { > device-name "ums[0-9]+"; > action "/etc/rc.d/moused start $device-name"; > }; > > This is from /etc/devd.conf. > > Thanks for the pointer. It got me curious about what parsed this file and I'm scanning devd.cc. ... > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 23:47:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDB71065674 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:47:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCED8FC47 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy21 with SMTP id 21so1379704ewy.13 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:47:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.37.10 with SMTP id x10mr4423317eea.32.1287013670450; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.119.203 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:47:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [69.91.159.76] In-Reply-To: References: <20101009014310.O2036@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4CAFF3C8.30703@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:47:50 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Like it or not, Theo is having a good laugh .. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:47:52 -0000 I feel like the main thing being proven by this thread is that Theo is excellent at trolling FreeBSDers. The ratio of text in Theo's original post to text in this thread has to be approaching 10,000:1. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 00:24:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8E7106564A for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 00:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4678C8FC0C for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 00:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy21 with SMTP id 21so1397034ewy.13 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:24:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vfP2DDfPlvG2cYtYHixvu8FTpBQyttJORl302GDINZM=; b=iVBTw2shT4aRIObRWu1pp1BIoFqJmymY/mB4gMS35SUQxX27w4GjLtV2Qi0skwBxEJ o2QMzuC7mft/6zHIeSlr1IOBgksG5dhqu5d9FV2V8BTm3Jzl30LDFQe0amCPZHH7FUww B5NIfVCsbkmau0fLpAhL6ig3a7hBcTW2yYVV4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=d7s/M9xlbkjJ/TNWEV70RXeqfS5vrzhLZlfD+YarbOq5hzedsplUGNtby20SlHAV4v SFgRv4eVkwK1sUYcNSUjvvUs3jtCQ/0wdQgbo1mztV+xpUhpxL20YQwShcloLRN50LQs cWF0NV4x4/PAJOVAkSUbZcSY0Y0+UoUvkjhQ0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.20.13 with SMTP id d13mr485975ebb.83.1287015849155; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.47.14 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 00:24:09 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Yuri Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Too many binary packages are missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 00:24:12 -0000 >I am updating i386 system (portupgrade -aP) and whole lot of binary >packages are missing. >For example, gcc-4.5.0, qt4-corelib are examples of large packages that >are missing that don't require too many dependencies and are very basic. > >I know, it may be caused by failed dependencies, copyright restrictions, >etc. But it's hard to imagive why they are missing for these two: no >copyright restrictions, and almost no dependencies. > >This unfortunately slows down many people. >Is there any solution to this problem? Maybe people just forget about >this build server and some minor fix wil help? Maybe some other ports have licenses that prevent the distribution of packages, but not lang/gcc45 and devel/qt4-corelib. Where did you instruct portupgrade and the base system package tools to look for them? Is your ports tree up-to-date? I see, on the ftp servers: http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/lang/gcc-4.5.2.20100923.tbz http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/lang/gcc-4.5.2.20100923.tbz http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.0-release/lang/gcc-4.5.0.20090924.tbz http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.1-release/lang/gcc-4.5.1.20100701.tbz ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8-stable/lang/gcc-4.5.2.20100923.tbz http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9-current/lang/gcc-4.5.2.20100923.tbz Also: http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/devel/qt4-corelib-4.6.3.tbz ... etc. Why did you think that they were missing? Incidentally, the latest version of lang/gcc45 is a snapshot of gcc 4.5.2, so ports or packages that want gcc 4.5.0 are outdated. There are localized versions of the stable OpenOffice port available for FreeBSD 8-* (and some older ones for FreeBSD 7-* ) available at: http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/ although the latest snapshots appear only to be built for U.S. English and Japanese at that server. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 00:47:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA04106564A for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 00:47:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher.maness@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9078FC0A for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 00:47:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz16 with SMTP id 16so48806bwz.13 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:47:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=y7GblI+/veyyDEiJ8P3Awk2Y7U1EyV/LpM2yXu21Mp0=; b=efM2sN4o8A/o8ashb/ykCRSeRgkWntoF/8wQYcG71ApmPwd43igCBU+1U5laATUCxA Z43iTLh/QaV9T6dCLynwWaFdjjTmZZD+BQoApGdi7Nk1bV7scu8BZi7MP6rSKR3oaWMk sMS/2vVYbaRI+cWVbKDoCDwWp0arfpdWmSjHM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=LEZ9S0RguxeuUh79PlKrrP7KI3GPhYcaZM+fWnF594lITtxftAPVloMhGKB+WAMRzW xzQ2GjDTZIZnIa1VURnMtjb3inOHBUPaAyl1466rtsZ5fXdBJRHBgEzZLCW60BgMBClt ur7m5yn4JggZCBHHW/WWiDayQF9Sjjn5JTXDI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.98.135 with SMTP id q7mr8190085bkn.49.1287017274011; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:47:54 -0700 (PDT) Sender: christopher.maness@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.83.12 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:47:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:47:53 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: MbVoEo6l59nIz4FHvvFf742sQL4 Message-ID: From: Chris Maness To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RECEIVED: Bible (92313) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 00:47:55 -0000 Got a Bible. =A0Thanks, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 00:48:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D93106566B for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 00:48:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01608FC0C for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 00:48:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o9E0mGVD015671; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:48:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o9E0mF7N015668; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:48:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:48:15 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20101013231122.3b32695b.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> <20101012221020.1a8dcd90.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101012233002.GA4957@thought.org> <20101013014326.6630e3b5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101013032018.GA3163@thought.org> <20101013055906.bdc5f644.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101013172931.GA18897@thought.org> <20101013231122.3b32695b.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:48:16 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 00:48:20 -0000 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:29:31 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: >> I just noticed that in rc.conf is: >> >> >> # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Wed Oct 13 08:03:06 2010 >> moused_port="/dev/ums0" >> moused_type="auto" >> moused_enable="NO" >> >> and yet the console mouse is present. Strange... . > > Explaination: USB mice are handled by devd. So if the system > detects the presence of a ums device, devd "remote-controls" > moused to activate this mouse. See also the entry in /etc/defaults/rc.conf: moused_nondefault_enable="YES" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 01:06:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3BF3106564A for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:06:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756808FC0C for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:06:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o9E16gZ9015736; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:06:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o9E16gRt015733; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:06:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:06:42 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20101013224446.382b5293.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> <20101012221020.1a8dcd90.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101012233002.GA4957@thought.org> <20101013014326.6630e3b5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101013032018.GA3163@thought.org> <20101013055906.bdc5f644.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101013224446.382b5293.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:06:42 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:06:45 -0000 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010, Polytropon wrote: >> Finally, a "jumpy mouse" problem >> with moused on console screams that it's the KVM, not moused or USB or >> xorg config. > > I'm not 100% sure about that. Your article located at > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html states: > > Other times, particularly if hald is running, typed > characters don't show up on the screen until the > mouse is moved, and mouse movement itself is jerky > and doesn't react smoothly. > > I thought about something like that. That happens in X. I don't recall any problems in console mode, but may not have tested it. >> USB mice cause moused to be run anyway, but there are differences. If >> you want switching between X and console to be fast, enable moused. > > And this is possible in combination with devd that "remote-contols" > moused for USB mice? And does moused handle "disappearing" and > "reappearing" devices properly? AFAIK, yes. Try it: with a USB mouse, set moused_enable="NO", reboot, switch from console to X and back with alt-f9 and then ctrl-alt-f1. Note the delay, particularly switching from console to X. Now enable moused, reboot, and try it again. I don't know what causes the difference. Certainly it's something that could be tolerated if you don't switch between console and X much. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 01:41:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3AC106566C for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:41:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63AA18FC15 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:41:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JC6T1f0040cQ2SLA7RhRwo; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:41:25 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.9] ([70.89.202.1]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JRhK1f00W02K3z28WRhLxH; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:41:24 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:41:17 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <530B5C31-7033-40C0-98FD-7608F7D2374B@cwis.biz> References: To: Chris Maness X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RECEIVED: Bible (92313) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:41:25 -0000 Glad to hear it. On Oct 13, 2010, at 7:47 PM, Chris Maness wrote: > Got a Bible. Thanks, Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 03:18:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55EF1106566B for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:18:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C1A8FC0A for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:18:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o9E3IAKe043114; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:18:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4CB67672.8070102@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:18:10 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100930 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bf1783@gmail.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "b. f." , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Too many binary packages are missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:18:12 -0000 On 10/13/2010 17:24, b. f. wrote: >> I am updating i386 system (portupgrade -aP) and whole lot of binary >> packages are missing. >> For example, gcc-4.5.0, qt4-corelib are examples of large packages that >> are missing that don't require too many dependencies and are very basic. >> >> I know, it may be caused by failed dependencies, copyright restrictions, >> etc. But it's hard to imagive why they are missing for these two: no >> copyright restrictions, and almost no dependencies. >> >> This unfortunately slows down many people. >> Is there any solution to this problem? Maybe people just forget about >> this build server and some minor fix wil help? >> > Maybe some other ports have licenses that prevent the distribution of > packages, but not lang/gcc45 and devel/qt4-corelib. Where did you > instruct portupgrade and the base system package tools to look for > them? Is your ports tree up-to-date? I see, on the ftp servers: > > http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/lang/gcc-4.5.2.20100923.tbz > > http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/lang/gcc-4.5.2.20100923.tbz > > http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.0-release/lang/gcc-4.5.0.20090924.tbz > > http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.1-release/lang/gcc-4.5.1.20100701.tbz > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8-stable/lang/gcc-4.5.2.20100923.tbz > > http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9-current/lang/gcc-4.5.2.20100923.tbz > > Also: > > http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/devel/qt4-corelib-4.6.3.tbz > > ... > My system is 8.1-stable and portupgrade looks at http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.1-stable No sure what is packages-8-stable, shouldn't it be the same? System should at least have binaries of all packages that are required to install kde4/gnome/firefox/thunderbird -- major x11 environments and programs people use. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 03:32:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BF7106564A for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:32:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623688FC16 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:32:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so3001587fxm.13 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:32:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+Z0wFusO2f+aJqzJNf7FZAAiV8oaBnIXw9fa9q+ujMc=; b=afiCAmch+s7BG36sqmGzq3QaSy6nGsqRgcCKu6gm07qLvJbV5qqA1Aw0/lxDtEGWP7 DEfwnv7SEqWxZzxtlQZd3hDw+BnhzMAVrWwskYiycH/tqlhGXZdXu0BywwjXhoUKcDhI 41iqwq7pkbZu7s20OBfeb/RhInF/jj497QJyI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=bBMGi0V5wtZ677DmnRtorbBDZcjHJCOgXeLIgES6NA6560okET9Ss/vMcBCzOQCRAO dnMietbL8sO0WjX86fcSmxFiMKVpD0iLvsxYwEDXKXJpf1hunFVihKAALiNADTrAWMkG Foz+gy2enq3om7m61lUnkxlTbyD3IrLzTWnCQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.219.9 with SMTP id w9mr1672761muq.16.1287027148969; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:32:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.121.13 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:32:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4CB67672.8070102@rawbw.com> References: <4CB67672.8070102@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:32:28 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Yuri Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: bf1783@gmail.com, "b. f." , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too many binary packages are missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:32:31 -0000 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Yuri wrote: > My system is 8.1-stable and portupgrade looks at > http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.1-stable > No sure what is packages-8-stable, shouldn't it be the same? > > System should at least have binaries of all packages that are required to > install kde4/gnome/firefox/thunderbird -- major x11 environments and > programs people use. > Ha, funny. Ealier you compared it to Debian, but failed to mention you are running a developmental version of FreeBSD. Trying getting all the packages you want on Debian testing. Depending on the exact time of your attempt, you'll run into issues much larger than having to compile from ports. It is a silly expectation on your part to think FreeBSD needs to have current packages all the time for it's developmental branches. If RELEASE and it's associated packages don't work for you, be prepared to compile from source. That's generally true regardless of your $OS. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 03:42:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E3B1065674 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:42:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23EB78FC13 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:42:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy21 with SMTP id 21so1473680ewy.13 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:42:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=jUjddgPfu2C/M+rynz9GuCwF5mjbRtYCJEbnVaQXrUU=; b=IOrFee+ojiFIU+s3yUNNsUIizBjA09EodY7yKkyoez65aHR6KPaLbA6ZZbKjprrTo/ ewOS18IBltufJIO05OfzpsMrB9sH/lHmZIROU+RcX76IRjoIgv6XX2ccXeKlyF1KLdvd Gn/6wNRhZaUq2qd3l9ZMoYyM8XHBZyhNw+NRQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=l93txNvmeDHZx2rGfPrMbTka7WFe/HGEUTWPY6zmK5mx8yrQY5ejxNPdfDEZaKkOBn cnia7rOSOTxyw2zuUZnPKDnXRPuTe65ztt/+nRHMdZxlXQTyIMwQ1IhJLx+yWDv8fPED IpM6xK5qCcOAyIvxGZb3z2bbWXgL3aIzCStSk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.21.133 with SMTP id j5mr1265854ebb.95.1287027733880; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.47.14 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:42:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4CB67672.8070102@rawbw.com> References: <4CB67672.8070102@rawbw.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:42:13 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Yuri Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too many binary packages are missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:42:16 -0000 On 10/14/10, Yuri wrote: > On 10/13/2010 17:24, b. f. wrote: ... > My system is 8.1-stable and portupgrade looks at > http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.1-stable > No sure what is packages-8-stable, shouldn't it be the same? As far as I know, there are no packages for 8.1-STABLE on the project servers, although probably both the packages for 8.1-RELEASE and 8-STABLE will work in your case. 8.1-STABLE is closer to 8.1-RELEASE than it is to 8-STABLE at this point (the release engineering team is hoping to release 8.2 around the end of the year), so if you want to be conservative, use the (older) packages for 8.1-RELEASE. Of course, you can also build your own packages via Ports. > System should at least have binaries of all packages that are required > to install kde4/gnome/firefox/thunderbird -- major x11 environments and > programs people use. There are, at least for the supported releases, and for snapshots of 9-CURRENT and 6,7,8-STABLE. Occasionally the latest version of a commonly-used package breaks on -STABLE, but it is usually fixed fairly quickly. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 03:49:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD9B106564A for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDE78FC08 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:49:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy21 with SMTP id 21so1475622ewy.13 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:49:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=yc5Tdno9OHEWfIyE1u+Y7D9y/Xq1nOcm4goLrrjzJ6w=; b=aOaZhuB5cEgrCR1XuJ2+FqoYnCPlGkgf6/A/wAwRSbaQt5JgNa73ihGP/EyFn7xy1r /AQM+vX04r8vPSgzYPHu8aECykw+pUZROkDxWEZoVTGP8RFnePWmh93lpcFd0jzhx6S/ Qbgys6pLKQjGxe/JYAqHSb3PUUqjmxfamdUL0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=W1FnYs4RZjE4N7ByWVuDmlalNHI2AwAKnsYTEwS4ouCh5iBV7IGf2p5szcOzYn4jCa S34y9HSRN3L5+J8XcvhQoRIRHL5AiKEUaaQB8JH7+UGDVMUXg/x4f8uDVxyXpZz84EqG N9+YMkSJjIzVR80CYjDfqKaXggFkyNGNIaTEY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.16.144 with SMTP id o16mr581552eba.64.1287028171073; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.47.14 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:49:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4CB67672.8070102@rawbw.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:49:31 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Yuri Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too many binary packages are missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:49:32 -0000 On 10/14/10, b. f. wrote: > On 10/14/10, Yuri wrote: >> On 10/13/2010 17:24, b. f. wrote: > ... >> My system is 8.1-stable and portupgrade looks at >> http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.1-stable >> No sure what is packages-8-stable, shouldn't it be the same? > > As far as I know, there are no packages for 8.1-STABLE on the project > servers, although probably both the packages for 8.1-RELEASE and > 8-STABLE will work in your case. I should mention that some third-party servers have packages that aren't on the project servers; for example, you can find packages for some versions of 8.1-STABLE on: http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com And of course there may be other sources, too. b. 8.1-STABLE is closer to 8.1-RELEASE > than it is to 8-STABLE at this point (the release engineering team is > hoping to release 8.2 around the end of the year), so if you want to > be conservative, use the (older) packages for 8.1-RELEASE. Of course, > you can also build your own packages via Ports. > >> System should at least have binaries of all packages that are required >> to install kde4/gnome/firefox/thunderbird -- major x11 environments and >> programs people use. > > There are, at least for the supported releases, and for snapshots of > 9-CURRENT and 6,7,8-STABLE. Occasionally the latest version of a > commonly-used package breaks on -STABLE, but it is usually fixed > fairly quickly. > > b. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 04:26:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349F41065670 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 04:26:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chetan.shukla@aricent.com) Received: from jaguar.aricent.com (jaguar.aricent.com [121.241.96.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A988FC23 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 04:26:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jaguar.aricent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postfix.imss71 (Postfix) with ESMTP id C434A36B38; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:55:10 +0530 (IST) Received: from GUREXHT02.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM (gurexht02.asian.ad.aricent.com [10.203.171.138]) by jaguar.aricent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A253036B2C; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:55:10 +0530 (IST) Received: from GUREXMB01.asian.ad.aricent.com ([10.203.171.130]) by GUREXHT02.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM ([10.203.171.138]) with mapi; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:56:42 +0530 From: Chetan Shukla To: Chuck Swiger Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:56:37 +0530 Thread-Topic: __FreeBSD__ not available and unsigned long type Thread-Index: Actq/XIsTQQjda7ERlGVNqMQ0wWOIQAWmDAg Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: __FreeBSD__ not available and unsigned long type X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 04:26:46 -0000 Hi, I tried this and got following output: cerebrus# touch foo.h; cpp -dM foo.h | grep FreeBSD #define __FreeBSD_cc_version 800001 #define __VERSION__ "4.2.1 20070719 [FreeBSD]" #define __FreeBSD__ 8 It means __FreeBSD__ is defined but how then to use it? Regards, Chetan -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Swiger [mailto:cswiger@mac.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 11:08 PM To: Chetan Shukla Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: __FreeBSD__ not available and unsigned long type On Oct 13, 2010, at 5:47 AM, Chetan Shukla wrote: > In my machine (8.0-RELEASE) I am not getting the macro __FreeBSD__. > As a workaround I have to conditionally define it in makefile. What does: touch foo.h; cpp -dM foo.h | grep FreeBSD ...return? Regards, -- -Chuck "DISCLAIMER: This message is proprietary to Aricent and is intended solely = for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. It may contain privi= leged or confidential information and should not be circulated or used for = any purpose other than for what it is intended. If you have received this m= essage in error, please notify the originator immediately. 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Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([59.174.51.148]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g6sm13518721anh.31.2010.10.13.22.09.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:09:11 -0700 (PDT) From: yanxinyou To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:25:59 +0800 Message-ID: <1286979959.3497.0.camel@yanxinyou.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.1.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 05:37:50 -0000 the release 8.1 firefox 3.4 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 05:45:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F99106566C for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 05:45:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C42A8FC0C for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 05:45:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-16-227.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.16.227]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDDB61E7C0; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:45:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o9E5j6rZ004766; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:45:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:45:06 +0200 From: Polytropon To: yanxinyou Message-Id: <20101014074506.115a213b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1286980026.3500.0.camel@yanxinyou.org> References: <1286980026.3500.0.camel@yanxinyou.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 05:45:09 -0000 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:27:05 +0800, yanxinyou wrote: > how to install the flash plugin to firefox Check out the FreeBSD handbook's chapter about browsers: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html See "6.2.3 Firefox and Macromedia(R) Flash^TM Plugin" and check if it works for you. I have virtually no experience with "Flash" on newer system and browser versions (8.1-R with Firefox 3.4 on your side?), but in the past, this was an instruction that worked - until I removed "Flash", of course. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 08:15:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68383106564A for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:15:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1573D8FC0A for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4F82D34D404; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:15:06 +0100 (BST) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:15:05 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.5.2; amd64; ; ) References: <201010131014.31158.david@vizion2000.net> <201010131324.26444.david@vizion2000.net> <20101013140106.46d1d51f@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20101013140106.46d1d51f@gumby.homeunix.com> X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201010140915.06117.david@vizion2000.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: RW Subject: Re: portupgrade command line option -f problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:15:22 -0000 > On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:24:26 +0100 > > David Southwell wrote: > > Tried that but no good - it still seems to goof up. I recall it used > > > > to work many versions ago but it may not have been picked up on a > > regression test. > > It works for me. Which port is it failing on portupgrade -frR apache22 does not rebuild apache modules david Photographic Artist Permanent Installations & Design Creative Imagery and Advanced Digital Techniques High Dynamic Range Photography & Official Portraiture Combined darkroom & digital creations & Systems Adminstrator for the vizion2000.net network From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 08:16:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A82D106564A for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:16:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wodfer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632F78FC1E for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so9105919iwn.13 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:16:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+Z7CD331g7U6vVUYZHRGKaVrBDV5gR68kH3drOLwKlI=; b=JCBU/D/ib5C+3ZIgxh/wJ4JNnBq+FOp4zMAqe8aloZL+y+lbFWSNuFTruv7heTANJz nIj5vs3Y+eW/1ocQykrWMzCYHb+YDh5EjY3kDuQkL5nzhq+YeeQuK4nTA4vQ4BALP1Pb vo+V8O+Z/L+EUjQlUWadw+Jt+Tmusn2v5BHXc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=vbRt/YQqA+JusmSb+9jBoU2kl4jUPlfYWoLn+uDrjJ1PdQHSFzKbK5sO+OR7v0u3aR e8sZH6ChkDFGlnY5xnW+yqMLAdrD+QYiC6DYza5eMe9FNpFuG5OKQugwp1Wp+OsYCrsd Q/n0/QcMItKUZXHrGByo7J/8bZoDN50kVyjd4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.172.66 with SMTP id m2mr363498icz.238.1287044170772; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.190.129 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:16:10 +0200 Message-ID: From: Andy Wodfer To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Resin 3.1.9, Apache 2.2.16 and mod_caucho? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:16:12 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to install Resin together with Apache and according to all documentation I can find I'm supposed to compile the mod_caucho and include this in the Apache httpd.conf, but I can't find any reference to mod_caucho in my ports, system or compile options. Is the documentation outdated or can anyone give me some pointers as to how I can make requests to Java sites go through Apache (using virtual hosts)? Ie. http://caucho.com/resin-3.1/doc/install-apache.xtp Both Apache (port 80) and Resin3.1 (port 8080) runs fine alone. uname -a FreeBSD domain.domain.net 8.0-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p4 #0: Mon Jul 12 20:22:27 UTC 2010 root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Cheers, Andreas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 08:31:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3BC106564A for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:31:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from axelbsd@ymail.com) Received: from nm5-vm0.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (nm5-vm0.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.183.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE6158FC08 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:31:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.146.183.180] by nm5.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2010 08:18:33 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.169] by tm11.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2010 08:18:33 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2010 08:18:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 80621.46526.bm@omp1010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 10416 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2010 08:18:32 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s1024; t=1287044311; bh=wTGQ9ryNzC1TGyhyg9NXJjUi858YhMfqW8paY4Lss3w=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Received:MIME-Version:Received:In-Reply-To:References:From:Date:Message-ID:Subject:To:Cc:Content-Type; b=Anpq+aZyyvgRxR+M5sjrbiuQ8XokhC8HT0JH3bhjxRuIjAUDe6Ac2k58MrgkZqq+Pu5beOzznkJvM6524MKsX59uS+m77pq8THuzQsNGqXIXYtRYSjBW2G7wzQofsgVKokY8v747eMCrOVqXUibJQq5YxO98xS6UabiFCdjJ5Sg= Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (axelbsd@74.125.82.182 with plain) by smtp135.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Oct 2010 08:18:30 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: S65s63SswBDjU54Gjqw2GSWlZmfgiEU_X3tN1_9u X-YMail-OSG: PB8Lac0VM1m36aIjUVE4yawdAfGHeGR_R2HnBLoGv8K0rqU AHh8aSkoX X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: by wye20 with SMTP id 20so335460wye.13 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.157.3 with SMTP id z3mr9653617wbw.173.1287044310356; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:18:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.146.201 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:18:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101014074506.115a213b.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <1286980026.3500.0.camel@yanxinyou.org> <20101014074506.115a213b.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Alexandre Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:18:10 +0200 Message-ID: To: Polytropon , yanxinyou Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:31:07 -0000 To install Flash for Firefox, I use this HOWTO http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=33673&postcount=1 I have used Linux Base Port 10 but now I use Linux Base Port 8 because I can use ICA Client, Citrix (see BSD Mag from last month). Flash works well on Firefox with both Linux Base Port, but please don't install both at the same time. On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:27:05 +0800, yanxinyou wrote: > > how to install the flash plugin to firefox > > Check out the FreeBSD handbook's chapter about browsers: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html > > See "6.2.3 Firefox and Macromedia(R) Flash^TM Plugin" and > check if it works for you. I have virtually no experience > with "Flash" on newer system and browser versions (8.1-R > with Firefox 3.4 on your side?), but in the past, this was > an instruction that worked - until I removed "Flash", of > course. :-) > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... Alexandre From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 08:37:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D151065672 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:37:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03668FC26 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:37:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P6JJ6-0005gb-23 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:37:00 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o9E8axQD003191 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:36:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o9E8axiS003190 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:36:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:36:59 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101014083659.GA3150@current.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Subject: gzip tries to unpack/pack 1st the filename of $GZIP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:37:03 -0000 Hello, I was facing a problem in some Makefile/shell-scripting and finally I could nail it down: when you set the environment variable GZIP to something, for example to let it point to gzip itself, it tries 1st to unpack this file: $ GZIP=/usr/bin/gzip export GZIP $ $GZIP -dc source.tar.gz | wc -l gzip: /usr/bin/gzip: not in gzip format 645770 o $ GZIP=bla export GZIP $ gzip -dc source.tar.gz | wc -l gzip: can't stat: bla: No such file or directory 645770 Why is this? It's not mentioned in the man page. Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 10:05:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C64106564A for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:05:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from axelbsd@ymail.com) Received: from nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.183.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 11B708FC23 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:05:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.146.183.210] by nm13.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2010 10:05:27 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.160] by tm3.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2010 10:05:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2010 10:05:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 7723.63332.bm@omp1001.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 49011 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2010 10:05:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s1024; t=1287050726; bh=nvKRH6wwajZnsDMF62sLRSbd1KbRN16Q/rX4ZVFjmWI=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Received:MIME-Version:Received:In-Reply-To:References:From:Date:Message-ID:Subject:To:Cc:Content-Type; b=PbQZDtIOskBL+0TTbS2gub1ih40ygpufHSYAe/qjRFu5Jms+IYmK65EfK7O6JOz0gZWaJQbs6jSLLfgV7wTV8aCt8gL2u2OpJztK5gTSXADX1ESf05kM40dDkstRgGNfEedBcTw3nwb923Nrb6iNu/EQxSivKFFX8Yk0ST5sbDM= Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (axelbsd@74.125.82.182 with plain) by smtp130.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Oct 2010 10:05:26 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: S65s63SswBDjU54Gjqw2GSWlZmfgiEU_X3tN1_9u X-YMail-OSG: NgFnX5UVM1nMZLxRXRROHJY9L2VAw0qplAPH4Dj2.D4uY1B cQ9sMf4xamdUMQVBE3HK_9fCW9WQUYfgS3pIc_A6mwYTj0_wMK20wRQ5uBCn SLnnHv2PONZ9e49jwTGbfVJebaPoX5KJyMU0nQE4mVq2uvDdatMHCnw4Acnn 46rkWuTMMSrRREk0TzqN7QsiO2Eri0_ppsIHEJtsufnQ3YSAuYZKjdNkow66 .fAPcZ7QeKF40JYwUUd3190JlyA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: by wye20 with SMTP id 20so49521wye.13 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.151.148 with SMTP id c20mr9946041wbw.15.1287050726149; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:05:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.146.201 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:05:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1287047693.4322.77.camel@yanxinyou.org> References: <1286980026.3500.0.camel@yanxinyou.org> <20101014074506.115a213b.freebsd@edvax.de> <1287047693.4322.77.camel@yanxinyou.org> From: Alexandre Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:05:05 +0200 Message-ID: To: yanxinyou Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=001485f6c8a0570dc2049290d908 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:05:29 -0000 --001485f6c8a0570dc2049290d908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think you have the same error than the one described here : https://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D10460 There is a security issue for Linux-Pango. That is why the Portaudit tool, won't let you install this port. But you can nevertheless install the port : - Add the following line to /etc/make.conf : DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=3Dyes - Or use this command to install the ports : # make DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=3Dyes install clean 2010/10/14 yanxinyou > I am new to the freebsd world . As some friends said , I do it > from the handbook . After i install the linux-base f10 . > then i install the from www/nspluginwrapper it failed > > the problem like this : > > > > > > > > > i come from china . i may not describe clearly . thank you > > > > =E5=9C=A8 2010-10-14=E5=9B=9B=E7=9A=84 10:18 +0200=EF=BC=8CAlexandre=E5= =86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > > To install Flash for Firefox, I use this HOWTO > http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=3D33673&postcount=3D1 > I have used Linux Base Port 10 but now I use Linux Base Port 8 because I > can use ICA Client, Citrix (see BSD Mag from last month). > Flash works well on Firefox with both Linux Base Port, but please don't > install both at the same time. > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Polytropon wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:27:05 +0800, yanxinyou wrote: > > how to install the flash plugin to firefox > > > Check out the FreeBSD handbook's chapter about browsers: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html > > See "6.2.3 Firefox and Macromedia(R) Flash^TM Plugin" and > check if it works for you. I have virtually no experience > with "Flash" on newer system and browser versions (8.1-R > with Firefox 3.4 on your side?), but in the past, this was > an instruction that worked - until I removed "Flash", of > course. :-) > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > > > Alexandre > > > --001485f6c8a0570dc2049290d908-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 11:06:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83021065670 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christer.solskogen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6009C8FC08 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:06:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwe4 with SMTP id 4so3354538qwe.13 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 04:06:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lLamai1g7ZpFZINUKjutaPNUgGWZThf5GYiyGCc/u+o=; b=dvUxv6QEFhykkEs77mSWKEot+G2bl9xac4OVeDEB9APT3hXRKbe5xG3VxPNBqJZIbN RIXssMiGqGHPNZmZqo/4AWJz56usK2lFJFacgAGqSYeY4uRgL5h5rUiWG9D9y4CZmJvM KRGaLqcl8C11Kbd9yFmzp+CDNx0H73+M7C07Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jkGvtjBseJiLnP6zOguCa878ss1uhZE8G7cLHu298vKtWMtdv4rNJE6x5x98kTcu9E Ix/19QQTChMhmmEnripw30HYwbeVt/95oiNO5X4ZNvs7y3x1NgdBDY+H4nXBekCACCAr wuOnhGz5to2xe/0qcuYJh3nIIKps0X8LGNrZQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.177.212 with SMTP id bj20mr8293579qab.358.1287054397328; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 04:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.184.69 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 04:06:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:06:37 +0200 Message-ID: From: Christer Solskogen To: Andy Wodfer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Resin 3.1.9, Apache 2.2.16 and mod_caucho? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:06:38 -0000 On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Andy Wodfer wrote: > Hi, > I'm trying to install Resin together with Apache and according to all > documentation I can find I'm supposed to compile the mod_caucho and inclu= de > this in the Apache httpd.conf, =A0but I can't find any reference to mod_c= aucho > in my ports, system or compile options. > > Is the documentation outdated or can anyone give me some pointers as to h= ow > I can make requests to Java sites go through Apache (using virtual hosts)= ? > Ie. http://caucho.com/resin-3.1/doc/install-apache.xtp > > Both Apache (port 80) and Resin3.1 (port 8080) runs fine alone. > You probably have that module already installed. It comes with www/resin3 according to the Makefile. --=20 chs, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 13:07:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5FA11065695 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:07:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wodfer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6408FC08 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so9423637iwn.13 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 06:07:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5PRRRnxnRpHj4/89bE9PLzbCuL+NHeJswRvjOTWvYO4=; b=Zg1PWpBMHakPebDk5rgjUrTTlLiSfEgY0u8jUlj+UcNc3aG5xGp0crRDTgXLYwIpMQ XWCI1U3jhhD3TrXojQHklmQWzwrrUSexJAwRabXeWu070DnrC5iwEatyvsaDLiBFfTjp V0jmUkvaT3whYN5RQPJpeFIZdSFtqqD1ulGL8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AJnLwixaaIYeHkgCC34SeoQKiG+pI9jvLmQasyUvN9aYwipHdvwf5tSxPA/5PadojC 0RaVrCPlPubsT5xy+NDjk8I/zkmYD5VKIshVFdN2z1lei8AZat1kJdyPgrLG6FWVu28f mU3wuM8rDiaKbQYIc5IQ0vJF7owyGKCmrb9og= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.5.77 with SMTP id 13mr5260832icv.16.1287061665126; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 06:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.190.129 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 06:07:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:07:44 +0200 Message-ID: From: Andy Wodfer To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Resin 3.1.9, Apache 2.2.16 and mod_caucho? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:07:47 -0000 On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Christer Solskogen < christer.solskogen@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Andy Wodfer wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm trying to install Resin together with Apache and according to all > > documentation I can find I'm supposed to compile the mod_caucho and > include > > this in the Apache httpd.conf, but I can't find any reference to > mod_caucho > > in my ports, system or compile options. > > > > Is the documentation outdated or can anyone give me some pointers as to > how > > I can make requests to Java sites go through Apache (using virtual > hosts)? > > Ie. http://caucho.com/resin-3.1/doc/install-apache.xtp > > > > Both Apache (port 80) and Resin3.1 (port 8080) runs fine alone. > > > > You probably have that module already installed. It comes with > www/resin3 according to the Makefile. > Don't think so. locate (updated) and find only shows these: ./tmp/caucho ./usr/local/resin3/webapps/resin-doc/WEB-INF/classes/com/caucho ./usr/local/resin3/webapps/resin-doc/WEB-INF/xsl/caucho ./usr/local/resin3/webapps/resin-doc/examples/amber-basic/WEB-INF/classes/com/caucho /Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 13:14:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD14E1065673 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jherman@dichotomia.fr) Received: from mail.dichotomia.fr (hydrogen.dichotomia.net [91.121.82.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC898FC1E for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:14:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.22] (109.53-251-89.rdns.acropolistelecom.net [89.251.53.109]) (Authenticated sender: kha) by sslmail.dichotomia.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F23393DD062 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:14:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4CB70296.8060508@dichotomia.fr> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:16:06 +0200 From: Jerome Herman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4CB5C9FE.90101@dichotomia.fr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.5 (sslmail.dichotomia.fr); Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:14:08 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Is it a good idea to use DHCP for point to point connections ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:14:13 -0000 Le 13/10/2010 22:25, Elliot Finley a écrit : > we did this with DSL customers. But instead of using a unique gateway for > each Client, just use IP Unnumbered and proxy arp for your loopback > interface. > I was about to say that this solution seemed extremely sensitive to spoofing. But I figured out that my solution was not necessarily better. Looks like I will have to go for hardware solution after all... I am currently checking on Cisco private vlan system. But I am not a big fan of Cisco (Well to be perfectly honest I love the hardware...). Does anyone know of an alternative ? Jerome Herman > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Jerome Hermanwrote: > > >> Hello, >> >> Given the price (an tedious management) of layer 3 switches I was thinking >> about using modified DHCP to distribute addresses with a /32 netmask >> (255.255.255.255) >> >> The Idea : Create a cheap (and preferably not dirty) way to have client >> isolation, without creating tons of vlan. >> >> Pratictal overview : The DHCP server will be serving IP addresses and >> gateways with a /32 mask. >> Client1 would recieve IP adress of 241.0.0.1 with a netmask of >> 255.255.255.255 and a gateway of 240.0.0.1 >> Client2 would recieve IP adress of 241.0.0.2 with a netmask of >> 255.255.255.255 and a gateway of 240.0.0.2 >> Client3 would recieve IP adress of 241.0.0.3 with a netmask of >> 255.255.255.255 and a gateway of 240.0.0.3 >> etc. >> >> Of course the gateway will have to have as many IP as there are clients >> (Unless I am mistaken) >> >> The questions : >> - Is there something similar already existing ? It must not require any >> configuration on the client side other than activating DHCP. >> - Would this work ? I do not see why it would not, though I am a little >> anxious about having tens of point to point connections going to the same >> physical port. >> - I could not find anything forbidding it in RFC2131, but then again I >> might be wrong. Am I ? >> - One problem remains that is solved by vlan isolation but not by DHCP >> isolation : rogue DHCP servers. Any Idea to crush those ? >> >> I hope it is not inappropriate to post this on this list. But it is an >> interesting problem (I think). >> >> Jerome Herman >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 14:33:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC0F106566B for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:33:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvidican@m2.vidican.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657B28FC1B for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:33:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy21 with SMTP id 21so1790775ewy.13 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:33:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.19.19 with SMTP id y19mr63780eba.65.1287066817916; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Sender: nvidican@m2.vidican.com Received: by 10.216.184.212 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:33:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [136.1.1.105] In-Reply-To: <4CB70296.8060508@dichotomia.fr> References: <4CB5C9FE.90101@dichotomia.fr> <4CB70296.8060508@dichotomia.fr> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:33:37 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: SwhtTLz8ZteX4kgVJT9hFHr0apc Message-ID: From: Nathan Vidican To: Jerome Herman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is it a good idea to use DHCP for point to point connections ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:33:40 -0000 On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Jerome Herman wrote= : > Le 13/10/2010 22:25, Elliot Finley a =E9crit : > > we did this with DSL customers. But instead of using a unique gateway f= or >> each Client, just use IP Unnumbered and proxy arp for your loopback >> interface. >> >> > I was about to say that this solution seemed extremely sensitive to > spoofing. But I figured out that my solution was not necessarily better. > Looks like I will have to go for hardware solution after all... > I am currently checking on Cisco private vlan system. But I am not a big > fan of Cisco (Well to be perfectly honest I love the hardware...). Does > anyone know of an alternative ? > > Jerome Herman > > > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Jerome Herman> >wrote: >> >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Given the price (an tedious management) of layer 3 switches I was >>> thinking >>> about using modified DHCP to distribute addresses with a /32 netmask >>> (255.255.255.255) >>> >>> The Idea : Create a cheap (and preferably not dirty) way to have client >>> isolation, without creating tons of vlan. >>> >>> Pratictal overview : The DHCP server will be serving IP addresses and >>> gateways with a /32 mask. >>> Client1 would recieve IP adress of 241.0.0.1 with a netmask of >>> 255.255.255.255 and a gateway of 240.0.0.1 >>> Client2 would recieve IP adress of 241.0.0.2 with a netmask of >>> 255.255.255.255 and a gateway of 240.0.0.2 >>> Client3 would recieve IP adress of 241.0.0.3 with a netmask of >>> 255.255.255.255 and a gateway of 240.0.0.3 >>> etc. >>> >>> Of course the gateway will have to have as many IP as there are clients >>> (Unless I am mistaken) >>> >>> The questions : >>> - Is there something similar already existing ? It must not require any >>> configuration on the client side other than activating DHCP. >>> - Would this work ? I do not see why it would not, though I am a little >>> anxious about having tens of point to point connections going to the sa= me >>> physical port. >>> - I could not find anything forbidding it in RFC2131, but then again I >>> might be wrong. Am I ? >>> - One problem remains that is solved by vlan isolation but not by DHCP >>> isolation : rogue DHCP servers. Any Idea to crush those ? >>> >>> I hope it is not inappropriate to post this on this list. But it is an >>> interesting problem (I think). >>> >>> Jerome Herman >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Around here (Ontario, Canada) - almost all DSL providers use PPPoE... just = a thought, but might be a lot easier. -- Nathan Vidican nathan@vidican.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 14:39:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97514106564A for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:39:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715118FC14 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:39:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1763 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2010 14:39:16 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Oct 2010 14:39:16 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id C211B50863; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:39:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Matthias Apitz References: <20101014083659.GA3150@current.Sisis.de> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:39:13 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20101014083659.GA3150@current.Sisis.de> (Matthias Apitz's message of "Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:36:59 +0200") Message-ID: <44bp6walf2.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gzip tries to unpack/pack 1st the filename of $GZIP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:39:17 -0000 Matthias Apitz writes: > Hello, > > I was facing a problem in some Makefile/shell-scripting and finally I > could nail it down: > > when you set the environment variable GZIP to something, for example to > let it point to gzip itself, it tries 1st to unpack this file: > > $ GZIP=/usr/bin/gzip export GZIP > $ $GZIP -dc source.tar.gz | wc -l > gzip: /usr/bin/gzip: not in gzip format > 645770 > > o > > $ GZIP=bla export GZIP > $ gzip -dc source.tar.gz | wc -l > gzip: can't stat: bla: No such file or directory > 645770 > > Why is this? It's not mentioned in the man page. You need to fix the syntax on your 'export' lines. Adding a semicolon before the "export" keyword (or moving it to the next line) is the smallest change to do this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 14:46:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DF5106566C for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:46:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66258FC1B for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:46:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (unknown [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8599A1C0847 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:26:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4CB71326.3030301@locolomo.org> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:26:46 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: IPSec/racoon key time to live X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:46:46 -0000 Hi: I'm up against configuring a number of different systems with host-host IPSec AH-only. The systems use different versions of racoon. Questions: - Must the key lifetime be the same in both ends? - Can key lifetime be configured per host-host connection? Thanks, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 14:49:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4491065674 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:49:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A068FC1B for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:49:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P6P73-00047b-Nr; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:48:57 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o9EEmv5P005257; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:48:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o9EEmvMR005256; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:48:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:48:57 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Lowell Gilbert Message-ID: <20101014144857.GA5236@current.Sisis.de> References: <20101014083659.GA3150@current.Sisis.de> <44bp6walf2.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <44bp6walf2.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gzip tries to unpack/pack 1st the filename of $GZIP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:49:00 -0000 El día Thursday, October 14, 2010 a las 10:39:13AM -0400, Lowell Gilbert escribió: > Matthias Apitz writes: > > > Hello, > > > > I was facing a problem in some Makefile/shell-scripting and finally I > > could nail it down: > > > > when you set the environment variable GZIP to something, for example to > > let it point to gzip itself, it tries 1st to unpack this file: > > ... This was my fault. I overlooked it in the man page. SOrry; > You need to fix the syntax on your 'export' lines. > Adding a semicolon before the "export" keyword (or > moving it to the next line) is the smallest change > to do this. Why? $ FIX=foo export FIX $ env | fgrep FIX FIX=foo matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 15:29:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14CD1106566B for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:29:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srandall52@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f172.google.com (mail-gy0-f172.google.com [209.85.160.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5958FC18 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:29:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyc15 with SMTP id 15so2459587gyc.17 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:29:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/cOX91RWowKs5ZARIxeFvy0qMDrYWvzZHvxQYCxPo5I=; b=IXUcCrSiaDx9gYqE762YOX60rhxLcevxr8Uc7wkM49vl0jYP5SIGoJADCw3HcJQaMp KAs5AmkmKGWlSF4NEH9tlkAtoRMgmtSAbYRkFL2UFMpe31uUPd99FWg4x4et+0A2Wfmw 6P4nnP9WxUcacst/xREUTuItK70sK790aDUBE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Rfyp7cRAQvyWYtqlP61Z/il2TJEgneEZzzvUHiX0B6VVGUlyWNrE/Vh+nhX70TWABf zjxnX1HFjOaR4YFWjysk4lcX5LwLCRTwAY/0zGHUbWa+moNwiy4EIvXCvu/MaZQ5lRG4 BIzAFtrXKe7Uy0cNkEsx6Szq20El4prYNz9+Q= Received: by 10.42.74.137 with SMTP id w9mr6231321icj.201.1287068254236; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from locust.local ([75.27.226.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r6sm27738yba.11.2010.10.14.07.57.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:57:30 -0500 From: Steve Randall To: Matthias Apitz Message-ID: <20101014095730.4cb51698@locust.local> In-Reply-To: <20101014083659.GA3150@current.Sisis.de> References: <20101014083659.GA3150@current.Sisis.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gzip tries to unpack/pack 1st the filename of $GZIP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:29:11 -0000 On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:36:59 +0200 Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Hello, > > I was facing a problem in some Makefile/shell-scripting and finally I > could nail it down: > > when you set the environment variable GZIP to something, for example to > let it point to gzip itself, it tries 1st to unpack this file: > > $ GZIP=/usr/bin/gzip export GZIP > $ $GZIP -dc source.tar.gz | wc -l > gzip: /usr/bin/gzip: not in gzip format > 645770 > > o > > $ GZIP=bla export GZIP > $ gzip -dc source.tar.gz | wc -l > gzip: can't stat: bla: No such file or directory > 645770 > > Why is this? It's not mentioned in the man page. It is, actually. ENVIRONMENT If the environment variable GZIP is set, it is parsed as a white-space separated list of options handled before any options on the command line. 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I overlooked it in the man page. SOrry; >=20 > > You need to fix the syntax on your 'export' lines. > > Adding a semicolon before the "export" keyword (or > > moving it to the next line) is the smallest change=20 > > to do this. >=20 > Why? >=20 > $ FIX=3Dfoo export FIX > $ env | fgrep FIX > FIX=3Dfoo >=20 > matthias >=20 I'm with matthias on this one... Here's the technical explanation: When performing assignment in bourne/again shell, if the right-hand side of the assignment (=3D) does not begin with either a single-quote or double-quote, spaces will terminate the assignment and begin a new command. For example: abc=3D123 echo hello, world ^ | end of assignment (start of new command; imagine implied semi-colon) This produces two distinct commands: 1. abc=3D123 2. echo hello world Contrast that with either: abc=3D"123 echo hello world" or abc=3D123\ echo\ hello,\ world Both of which succeed in assigning `123 echo hello, world' to variable `abc'. Pop Quiz: What does the following do: abc=3D123\ xyz echo hello Answer: 1. assigns `123 xyz' to variable `abc' 2. executes: echo hello Second Pop Quiz: abc=3D"123 xyz" echo hello Answer: 1. assigns `123 xyz' to variable `abc' 2. executes: echo hello This obviously doesn't work in tennex/c shell: # echo $0 $SHELL -csh /bin/csh # abc=3D123 abc=3D123: Command not found. # ls -li `which csh tcsh` 1411 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 651964 Jan 23 2007 /bin/csh 1411 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 651964 Jan 23 2007 /bin/tcsh --=20 Cheers, Devin Teske -> CONTACT INFORMATION <- Business Solutions Consultant II FIS - fisglobal.com 510-735-5650 Mobile 510-621-2038 Office 510-621-2020 Office Fax 909-477-4578 Home/Fax devin.teske@fisglobal.com -> LEGAL DISCLAIMER <- This message contains confidential and proprietary information of the sender, and is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. Any use, distribution, copying or disclosure by any other person is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the e-mail sender immediately, and delete the original message without making a copy. -> END TRANSMISSION <- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 16:11:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D374C106567A for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:11:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christer.solskogen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863628FC1B for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:11:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwe4 with SMTP id 4so3510534qwe.13 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:11:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=iSZH/MnZZeraMIVpA4PyuUwYehTsBfwmlrMJNSpawAc=; b=Lg84Qmg6Tmll/4nzL3eNaBnCJFemgCew+amC/Qm1FqoMhVQmbz04AHHR6ooFNrjWF/ oNz5Y4fZrcdNroL85K0toA1mDMrCC3Yicl9i3HCylhNr93HIVnVYpnv5PQ9biPB0Hp37 MRC0KaIzoTd0hR+es6ZMhewXm3N1r/u6k9IZk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CjpPB9me/j/EBh3cnDn0RksIMMjYj4uw4YPyvl5PviJJ0otuWOl2AyYnuqHR+G+izc /vmMs1CgXaeTL3i+O614JA1G7KwvXM8KloTFihsI7RM1SHoW9ffv/UDOdBzYsxvdiDAH pQXOL+zf1ILs2ESLOsTbE2NqBHzX+k3lkzXRU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.239.129 with SMTP id kw1mr9034362qcb.90.1287072687330; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:11:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.184.69 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:11:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:11:27 +0200 Message-ID: From: Christer Solskogen To: Andy Wodfer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Resin 3.1.9, Apache 2.2.16 and mod_caucho? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:11:28 -0000 On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Andy Wodfer wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Christer Solskogen < > christer.solskogen@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Andy Wodfer wrote: >> > Hi, >> > I'm trying to install Resin together with Apache and according to all >> > documentation I can find I'm supposed to compile the mod_caucho and >> include >> > this in the Apache httpd.conf, =A0but I can't find any reference to >> mod_caucho >> > in my ports, system or compile options. >> > >> > Is the documentation outdated or can anyone give me some pointers as t= o >> how >> > I can make requests to Java sites go through Apache (using virtual >> hosts)? >> > Ie. http://caucho.com/resin-3.1/doc/install-apache.xtp >> > >> > Both Apache (port 80) and Resin3.1 (port 8080) runs fine alone. >> > >> >> You probably have that module already installed. It comes with >> www/resin3 according to the Makefile. >> > > Don't think so. locate (updated) and find only shows these: > > ./tmp/caucho > ./usr/local/resin3/webapps/resin-doc/WEB-INF/classes/com/caucho > ./usr/local/resin3/webapps/resin-doc/WEB-INF/xsl/caucho > ./usr/local/resin3/webapps/resin-doc/examples/amber-basic/WEB-INF/classes= /com/caucho > You might need to have apache[2|22] installed first. --=20 chs, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 16:37:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DE81065674 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:37:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@webcontracts.co.uk) Received: from batfink.vm.bytemark.co.uk (batfink.vm.bytemark.co.uk [80.68.95.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B268FC19 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:37:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.webcontracts.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by batfink.vm.bytemark.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3669E64027 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:20:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from 212.159.19.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mlaw) by www.webcontracts.co.uk with HTTP; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:20:24 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:20:24 +0100 From: "Matthew Law" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Jail question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: matt@webcontracts.co.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:37:16 -0000 I have a single box on which I would like to run openvpn, smtp (postfix, dspam, greylist, clamav), imap (dovecot) apache22 and bind. This box also acts as a network gateway so it would give an attacker carte blanche to the internal nets if it was compromised, which makes me nervous. The plan is to run openvpn as the only unjailed service and the rest of the services in a single jail or their own jails. I have never touched jails before and I'm a bit unsure of the best way to go. I realise that I can jail a service or a copy of the whole system (service would be preferable for space efficiency) but I am unclear on how to deal with IP addresses in jailed environments and if I should create individual jails or a single jail for all services. At the moment I am leaning toward a single system jail for everything so I can keep the space in which openvpn runs as uncluttered as possible and also have a single postgres instance shared by the other services. Basically, if any of the public services in the jail are compromised I would like to make it very hard for the attacker to see the internal network. If I use this scheme must I use separate public IPs for openvpn and the services jail or is it possible to use a single IP or some NAT/PAT scheme? -this box currently has 4 x NICs split into 2x lagg interfaces in failover mode (one public, one private), if that makes any difference.... Sorry for the rambling question and I hope this makes sense! Matt. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 17:35:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C22F106564A for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:35:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDB68FC18 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5064 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2010 17:35:41 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Oct 2010 17:35:41 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id EFF7150863; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:35:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20101014083659.GA3150@current.Sisis.de> <44bp6walf2.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20101014144857.GA5236@current.Sisis.de> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:35:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20101014144857.GA5236@current.Sisis.de> (Matthias Apitz's message of "Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:48:57 +0200") Message-ID: <444ocoad91.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: gzip tries to unpack/pack 1st the filename of $GZIP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:35:42 -0000 Matthias Apitz writes: > Why? > > $ FIX=foo export FIX > $ env | fgrep FIX > FIX=foo > Sorry; I'm not sure how I fooled myself on that -- I didn't keep the example I tested on.. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 17:50:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FAD6106564A for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:50:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559C58FC08 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:50:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P6Rwg-0002ZT-0L for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:50:26 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.85.36]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:50:25 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:50:25 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:56:44 -0400 Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: Resin 3.1.9, Apache 2.2.16 and mod_caucho? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:50:30 -0000 Christer Solskogen wrote: [snip] >>> > Both Apache (port 80) and Resin3.1 (port 8080) runs fine alone. >>> > >>> >>> You probably have that module already installed. It comes with >>> www/resin3 according to the Makefile. >>> >> >> Don't think so. locate (updated) and find only shows these: >> >> ./tmp/caucho >> ./usr/local/resin3/webapps/resin-doc/WEB-INF/classes/com/caucho >> ./usr/local/resin3/webapps/resin-doc/WEB-INF/xsl/caucho >> ./usr/local/resin3/webapps/resin-doc/examples/amber-basic/WEB- INF/classes/com/caucho >> > > You might need to have apache[2|22] installed first. > > You do need Apache installed first as apxs is used to build the mod_caucho module. Install Apache by the ports system as you normally would. See the 'Compiling mod_caucho.so' section here: http://www.caucho.com/resin-3.1/doc/install-apache.xtp If the configure script doesn't/can't find apxs automagically use the CLI switch and provide it with the location. It should be able to find it. Then config resin.conf and httpd.conf accordingly. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 17:54:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6F21065675 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:54:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jherman@dichotomia.fr) Received: from mail.dichotomia.fr (hydrogen.dichotomia.net [91.121.82.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9ADF8FC08 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:54:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.22] (109.53-251-89.rdns.acropolistelecom.net [89.251.53.109]) (Authenticated sender: kha) by sslmail.dichotomia.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B8D583DD02F; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:54:17 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4CB74443.70606@dichotomia.fr> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:56:19 +0200 From: Jerome Herman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, nathan@vidican.com References: <4CB5C9FE.90101@dichotomia.fr> <4CB70296.8060508@dichotomia.fr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.5 (sslmail.dichotomia.fr); Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:54:18 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Is it a good idea to use DHCP for point to point connections ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:54:24 -0000 Le 14/10/2010 16:33, Nathan Vidican a écrit : > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Jerome Hermanwrote: > > >> Le 13/10/2010 22:25, Elliot Finley a écrit : >> >> we did this with DSL customers. But instead of using a unique gateway for >> >>> each Client, just use IP Unnumbered and proxy arp for your loopback >>> interface. >>> >>> >>> >> I was about to say that this solution seemed extremely sensitive to >> spoofing. But I figured out that my solution was not necessarily better. >> Looks like I will have to go for hardware solution after all... >> I am currently checking on Cisco private vlan system. But I am not a big >> fan of Cisco (Well to be perfectly honest I love the hardware...). Does >> anyone know of an alternative ? >> >> Jerome Herman >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Jerome Herman> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>> >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Given the price (an tedious management) of layer 3 switches I was >>>> thinking >>>> about using modified DHCP to distribute addresses with a /32 netmask >>>> (255.255.255.255) >>>> >>>> The Idea : Create a cheap (and preferably not dirty) way to have client >>>> isolation, without creating tons of vlan. >>>> >>>> Pratictal overview : The DHCP server will be serving IP addresses and >>>> gateways with a /32 mask. >>>> Client1 would recieve IP adress of 241.0.0.1 with a netmask of >>>> 255.255.255.255 and a gateway of 240.0.0.1 >>>> Client2 would recieve IP adress of 241.0.0.2 with a netmask of >>>> 255.255.255.255 and a gateway of 240.0.0.2 >>>> Client3 would recieve IP adress of 241.0.0.3 with a netmask of >>>> 255.255.255.255 and a gateway of 240.0.0.3 >>>> etc. >>>> >>>> Of course the gateway will have to have as many IP as there are clients >>>> (Unless I am mistaken) >>>> >>>> The questions : >>>> - Is there something similar already existing ? It must not require any >>>> configuration on the client side other than activating DHCP. >>>> - Would this work ? I do not see why it would not, though I am a little >>>> anxious about having tens of point to point connections going to the same >>>> physical port. >>>> - I could not find anything forbidding it in RFC2131, but then again I >>>> might be wrong. Am I ? >>>> - One problem remains that is solved by vlan isolation but not by DHCP >>>> isolation : rogue DHCP servers. Any Idea to crush those ? >>>> >>>> I hope it is not inappropriate to post this on this list. But it is an >>>> interesting problem (I think). >>>> >>>> Jerome Herman >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>>> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > Around here (Ontario, Canada) - almost all DSL providers use PPPoE... just a > thought, but might be a lot easier. > It is indeed a lot easier. Unfortunatly it cannot be used in this case. Basically it is an hotel that is already wired in CAT.6. We ant the clients to be able to connect through wire without resorting to routers or DSL modem, with just DHCP set up. The hotel is composed of 33 small residences connected with fiber. The idea is to avoid the part where we buy 33 layer3 switches at 3000$ a piece. Jerome Herman > -- > Nathan Vidican > nathan@vidican.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 18:19:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B471065673 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:19:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5098FC0C for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:19:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o9EIJqZp014243; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:19:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o9EIJp7j014239; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:19:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:19:51 -0400 (EDT) From: doug To: Matthew Law In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:19:52 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Jail question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: doug@safeport.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:19:54 -0000 On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Matthew Law wrote: > I have a single box on which I would like to run openvpn, smtp (postfix, > dspam, greylist, clamav), imap (dovecot) apache22 and bind. This box also > acts as a network gateway so it would give an attacker carte blanche to > the internal nets if it was compromised, which makes me nervous. The plan > is to run openvpn as the only unjailed service and the rest of the > services in a single jail or their own jails. > > I have never touched jails before and I'm a bit unsure of the best way to > go. I realise that I can jail a service or a copy of the whole system > (service would be preferable for space efficiency) but I am unclear on how > to deal with IP addresses in jailed environments and if I should create > individual jails or a single jail for all services. At the moment I am > leaning toward a single system jail for everything so I can keep the space > in which openvpn runs as uncluttered as possible and also have a single > postgres instance shared by the other services. Basically, if any of the > public services in the jail are compromised I would like to make it very > hard for the attacker to see the internal network. > > If I use this scheme must I use separate public IPs for openvpn and the > services jail or is it possible to use a single IP or some NAT/PAT scheme? > -this box currently has 4 x NICs split into 2x lagg interfaces in failover > mode (one public, one private), if that makes any difference.... > > Sorry for the rambling question and I hope this makes sense! > > Matt. > Starting with FreeBSD 8 jails may have multiple IPs and can use sockets. AFAIK this makes a jail pretty much like a separate physical system in a functional sense. Between man jail and the handbook there is a clear explaination of the management and setup procedures. Hopefully those with a better understanding of the internals will weigh in with the liabilities for what you want to do. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 18:22:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF5D106564A for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:22:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jherman@dichotomia.fr) Received: from mail.dichotomia.fr (hydrogen.dichotomia.net [91.121.82.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F548FC22 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:22:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.22] (109.53-251-89.rdns.acropolistelecom.net [89.251.53.109]) (Authenticated sender: kha) by sslmail.dichotomia.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D178B3DD031; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:04:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4CB7469F.5020109@dichotomia.fr> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:06:23 +0200 From: Jerome Herman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Norgaard , questions@FreeBSD.org References: <4CB71326.3030301@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <4CB71326.3030301@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.5 (sslmail.dichotomia.fr); Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:04:22 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: IPSec/racoon key time to live X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:22:19 -0000 Le 14/10/2010 16:26, Erik Norgaard a écrit : > Hi: > > I'm up against configuring a number of different systems with > host-host IPSec AH-only. The systems use different versions of racoon. > > Questions: > > - Must the key lifetime be the same in both ends? In theory both ends are supposed to negotiate and select the smallest lifetime between the hosts. Reality is quite different, there are as many implementations of IPSec as there are debices implementing it, or close. And connecting in IPSec with a Cisco or a Checkpoint can be quite tedious. My opinion : avoid unnecessary headaches : put the same lifetime on both ends. > - Can key lifetime be configured per host-host connection? Yes. Jerome Herman > > Thanks, Erik > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 18:47:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239AA1065679 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:47:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCBFA8FC08 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (mailhost3.waddell.com [10.1.10.28]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FB7509CD; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:14:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id BFB7B3C349; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:14:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPHTCAS0.waddell.com (wadphtcas0.waddell.com [192.168.203.229]) by mailhost3.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B773C34E; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:14:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPMBXV0.waddell.com ([169.254.1.227]) by WADPHTCAS0.waddell.com ([192.168.203.229]) with mapi; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:14:17 -0500 From: Gary Gatten To: "'jherman@dichotomia.fr'" , "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" , "'nathan@vidican.com'" Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:14:16 -0500 Thread-Topic: Is it a good idea to use DHCP for point to point connections ? 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