From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 02:19:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A31D106564A for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 02:19:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5048C8FC08 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 02:19:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so3442052vws.13 for ; Sat, 14 May 2011 19:19:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0lImJb2OeI24lhzpx//KT/NSP+1YlT1KBPk1Tu3Vfp8=; b=emZ2fhaIyjV7AU1hJksrnIbI+6Yk8xL55VRMrhTRf94ZT3/dB8jMCwIKPHNS0v4oIf eE+CeUc2lVKsgBd3hy+QX2HmF04M4XoHJfGsvJrrN8qN3fkOIBgVHmCAC9cXVyPSJ9/r FEKEWxowxB1fJi6gsSp/ECGH19u48/ptbxDnA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=szNk31BPDaT6bCDkM2478ZL807p2gZWtPnGpindBYn1AmBjBsw2tv1ZNvd+eOao5GY nVeA/IwJAs5iw56j8foPEGUnDb+aOW02m7v4MaphJCJtPExErmcnwxisAiy8UBolZkzg aVPgyUCcfQ1hpbqyBjFQtcNmrTnjwaLLk9kZo= Received: by 10.52.175.6 with SMTP id bw6mr4190683vdc.210.1305425993082; Sat, 14 May 2011 19:19:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.110.42 with HTTP; Sat, 14 May 2011 19:19:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Eitan Adler Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 22:19:23 -0400 Message-ID: To: Walt Pawley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Modulok Subject: Re: Piping find into tar... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 02:19:54 -0000 > | while read X; do ; done > often gets around many of the problems. But causes way more. I suggest you read http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/filenames-in-shell.html and http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/fixing-unix-linux-filenames.html > -- > > Walter M. Pawley > Wump Research & Company > 676 River Bend Road, Roseburg, OR 97471 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 541-672-8975 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > --=20 Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 03:37:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A957106564A for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 03:37:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd2011@cyb.fr) Received: from cyb.fr (cyb.fr [88.184.47.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C894D8FC15 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 03:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 59300 invoked from network); 15 May 2011 05:11:14 +0200 Received: from gdb.cyb.fr (192.168.4.17) by smtp.cyb.fr with SMTP; 15 May 2011 05:11:14 +0200 Message-ID: <4DCF439A.6080604@cyb.fr> Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 05:08:10 +0200 From: Cybil Courraud User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101222 Thunderbird/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Unable to boot installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd2011@cyb.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 03:37:58 -0000 Hi Daniel, it seems that there is a problem with UEFI/atkbd, since 7.2 and 8.0 work without any boot problem (BTW that's not a solution because there is no NIC support) and 8.1 and 8.2 hang. I met the same problem with my x220 which is not resolved but you can follow this workaround: 1 - Plug an external USB keyboard 2 - boot with a memstick with 8.2 3 - In the loader: set hint.atkbd.0.disabled=1 boot 4 - Follow install via network or other 5 - Setup BIOS: Config > USB UEFI BIOS > disabled 6 - reboot You could try with a CD, directly without UEFI, it may work as is (I didn't burn it for the exercise). That's what worked for me. Regards, -- Cybil Courraud From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 04:06:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598B1106566C for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 04:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpclark@ymail.com) Received: from nm10.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm10.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 342878FC08 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 04:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.69] by nm10.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 May 2011 03:53:28 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.20] by tm9.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 May 2011 03:53:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1020.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 May 2011 03:53:28 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 533468.1511.bm@omp1020.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 84795 invoked by uid 60001); 15 May 2011 03:53:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s1024; t=1305431608; bh=JkBff5241Nzj7YlLOQa7kjjZiDZgoVrR8M8+QMfEEgY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=H27vRYnJB4j6HnGmlAlDzfn6tysZfrrQd5UC0mJ2uayVYi31gbyXRWqrJV9HqkldtEDMLSgO+9U6O0MZ8R+BHNp9aNBUBUxZsBenjNRO54+6ZKT6FH6JRqsoSwNpxgHIKAyrc+ZzO5N4kjUkp79C4+d1mSH9JqSayoxQh4TevWk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=ymail.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=z94vTp1KiI2z7WpPZT4SgWYJQVmDkaeY3I4ETjmUNRJa//yxUA/hyUG/YBrTUhlvChNKcjls2F7TgjK9vTv6/YpPK/w9HV+hjYcdIoCnvcxXftfl+nEtrcboRasGp5jj69ZXQUpqSxHD3e9BQn1/EJSuV3gthLVkqJXxgJ4bGCM=; Message-ID: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ci0RprsVM1nta4MoIdqs6Q7e57ePAqvf1htktfI5onv0e9U VEF6CAUpHmurIbfUWhbnWDkBCibaEzBFWdOs0JVew0CzK5cOz5G8eisu_n07 QXf2omPKgqDDPsEUM37NyT.OfwkPfUi69Aa6UxNKfhcp_C7SRYu3EnTZI5_B kCPhner6BqENLM5JhAXxRi36Kw_xaUtW6.4pckohvaYh9ylJK.bgZnRt_zC1 fGrjYL852OikpljbU7T7v2cSuGLclNWWPaoAaCYGFUqjSgwSVpITcg1yG2T4 2QDLV5CMkct80gZByL7QA1nZ9wCJZtTpwNtAqQ7pUD4OCc32er3r541bSbFy 5zg7Sl33XV8vrXqhnkCwkNKhzh_wvf1DmnA-- Received: from [72.145.215.159] by web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 14 May 2011 20:53:27 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.303096 Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 20:53:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Rob Clark To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 04:06:15 -0000 System Info: 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Tue Aug 10 11:43:36 EDT 20= 10, =A0and xorg-server-1.7.7_1,1 X.Org X server and related programs Not having updated my ports in nearly 1 year, I did a sledgehammer approach= with portmaster as follows: portmaster -D -R -f -m BATCH=3Dyes -a This took a few rounds. I did this as I started having all sorts of issues after running down vario= us port problems when going through a rather long /usr/ports/UPDATING.=A0=20 Maybe not the best method, but I think everything is finally done. After restarting X, prior to any reboot, I lost the mouse in X. So I figured a reboot was in order. Issue: After a reboot I found I had no keyboard -- not even in console mode.=A0=20 Trying the obvious first, I unplugged the keyboard and plugged it back in the ps2 port, and keyboard worked immediately -- this was repeatabl= e.=A0=20 Reboot, same thing, no keyboard. Some digging around revealed that I had the following line in /etc/rc.conf = twice: moused_enable=3D"YES" I removed one of these (which I guess was the culprit) and left one as it s= hould have been, then all was well.=A0 Keyboard found at reboot, no further= issues -- mouse was available in X too. I have no idea why I had=A0 moused_enable=3D"YES"=A0 in there twice, whethe= r it was from an old or recent rc.conf edit, but it clearly seems to have b= een causing the issue. Other (maybe valuable) info: I am running hald in /etc/rc.conf as follows: dbus_enable=3D"YES" hald_enable=3D"YES" ...and these were there prior to the ports update. I figured this "issue" may be of some value since I did not do any src upda= tes. I'll be glad to try to help or test this further, but keep in mind I'm not = a coder. Thanks, Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 08:36:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2215106566B for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 08:36:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48398FC12 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 08:36:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD353C9C1; Sun, 15 May 2011 10:36:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p4F8akh8001518; Sun, 15 May 2011 10:36:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 10:36:46 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Rob Clark Message-Id: <20110515103646.7558ddb2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 08:36:50 -0000 Please allow me a technical sidenote: On Sat, 14 May 2011 20:53:27 -0700 (PDT), Rob Clark wro= te: > Trying the obvious first, I unplugged the keyboard and plugged it > back in the ps2 port, and keyboard worked immediately -- this > was repeatable.=A0=20 Do _NOT_ hotplug the PS/2 port! It's not capable of that! I've seen myself in the past that trying so caused a mainboard to fly into the garbage can - as hotplugging the keyboard seemed to have damaged the PS/2 port (it didn't work anymore, with no keyboard). However, you actually CAN do this with USB. And I've done hotplugging with an old AT ("big" 5 pin keyboard connector) and HIL connect/disconnect at the keyboard (!) without any problem (IBM model M, the famous one). > Some digging around revealed that I had the following > line in /etc/rc.conf twice: > moused_enable=3D"YES" This doesn't matter: /etc/rc.conf is a shell script included in system scripts that does just contain variables that are set. Compare the following: x =3D 3; x =3D 3; What does happen? Or even this: x =3D 3; x =3D 4; You can have the same line 100 times in this file, with the result that the _last_ setting will be used. See "man rc.conf" for details. > I removed one of these (which I guess was the culprit) and left > one as it should have been, then all was well.=A0 So _that_ is very strange, if one has the functionality of /etc/rc, rc.conf, and the rc.d/ scripts in mind... having a line twice in the config file does _not_ imply a service is started twice. > I have no idea why I had=A0 moused_enable=3D"YES"=A0 in there twice, > whether it was from an old or recent rc.conf edit, but it > clearly seems to have been causing the issue. Coincidence, covariation, correlation...? :-) > Other (maybe valuable) info: > I am running hald in /etc/rc.conf as follows: > dbus_enable=3D"YES" > hald_enable=3D"YES" > ...and these were there prior to the ports update. >=20 > I figured this "issue" may be of some value since I did not > do any src updates. While moused is part of the base system (updated per source or freebsd-update), dbus and hal are ports (job for portmaster). --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 09:37:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898A4106566C for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 09:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4578FC0C for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 09:37:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.88]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CF92A16B4A5; Sun, 15 May 2011 04:11:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Sun, 15 May 2011 04:10:23 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 04:10:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.6dollardialup.com To: Rob Clark In-Reply-To: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="21774345-1633320634-1305450620=:13285" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 09:37:48 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --21774345-1633320634-1305450620=:13285 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Sat, 14 May 2011, Rob Clark wrote: > After restarting X, prior to any reboot, I lost the mouse in X. > So I figured a reboot was in order. This is almost certainly HAL. If you do not know you need HAL for something, mark the hal and hal-info ports FORBIDDEN (set FORBIDDEN to any value in the Makefiles) whenever you update your ports tree. Grep /var/db/= ports for hal and then remove the with hal option in the affected ports using mak= e config. Force reinstall the affected ports. Try to pkg_delete hal, to che= ck for dependencies you haven't resolved. When all the dependencies are removed, then remove hal. > Some digging around revealed that I had the following line in /etc/rc.con= f > twice: moused_enable=3D"YES" > > I removed one of these (which I guess was the culprit) and left one as it > should have been, then all was well.=A0 Keyboard found at reboot, no furt= her > issues -- mouse was available in X too. > > I have no idea why I had=A0 moused_enable=3D"YES"=A0 in there twice, whet= her it > was from an old or recent rc.conf edit, but it clearly seems to have been > causing the issue. This cannot be. Once or a million times should have exactly the same effect. Commonly ports, people, and sysinstall just add stuff to the end o= f this file. They add everything they know they need because only the last o= f similar entries has effect. rc.conf can become unwieldly over time because of this. It is safe to delete duplicate entries, but that should not affec= t the result. When the same value is assigned differing values only the last is effective. The defaults are in /etc/defaults/rc.conf which should never be edited. --=20 Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 --21774345-1633320634-1305450620=:13285-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 10:18:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE12106566B for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 10:18:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher-ml@telting.org) Received: from mail.telting.org (mail.telting.org [204.109.56.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B128FC12 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 10:18:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ares.local (cpe-76-168-204-255.socal.res.rr.com [76.168.204.255]) by mail.telting.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C2D28466; Sun, 15 May 2011 10:18:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4DCFA872.9050208@telting.org> Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 03:18:26 -0700 From: Chris Telting User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110429 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alejandro Imass References: <4DC9DE2C.6070605@telting.org> <201105121657.57647.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4DCBFC39.8060900@telting.org> <201105130932.32144.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4DCD02EF.7050808@telting.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Established method to enable suid scripts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 10:18:28 -0000 On 05/13/2011 14:34, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 6:07 AM, Chris Telting > wrote: >> On 05/13/2011 01:32, krad wrote: > [...] >> me ask you.. is "sudo ping" acceptable? Please explain the logical reason >> why not. It would be the preferred method if suid didn't exist and sudo was >> part of the base system. > The sudo versus suid theme is discussed ad-nauseam in many lists and > forums, as well as the C wrappers for doing stuff suid. > IMHO, however, sudo can give you more granular control though > paradoxically relies on suid itself. > The question here is why make the whole freaking interpreter suid when > you can granularly control the specific script. > Anyway, I would personally use a wrapper or sudo. I honestly tried when I posted the question to avoid the question of right or wrong. I simply have one opinion for my own need and preference and don't want to go into rigid detail and did not mean to reopen the issue. I simply wanted to know if anyone had a patch already or a flag enabled it. It's similar to the phrase that if you have to ask you can't afford it except in this case it means you can. I have a feeling someone somewhere did it. If no one comes forward I will post a proper patch for review and maintain documentation of the pitfalls to the extent I can and that others forward to me. I have no desire to change Freebsd's standard practice. I leave that to the steering committee of each and every distribution of unix like systems. I am simply grateful to be able to make my development systems work the way I want it to because I want it to. It's a question of complete phylosophy to me as to the base unix permissions system. I simply know what appeals most to me the way that I use systems. We all love Freebsd because it means choice. I apologize to anyone that thinks I reopened a can of worms and wasted time, it was not my goal. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 13:38:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661D4106564A for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 13:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E689D8FC08 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 13:38:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so3824476wyf.13 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 06:38:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wege/YSvM7MGK6cSkTl9y19DGjMBR/C8QBIK4WiPGGc=; b=sHhfWE1YP58pPxS6hETWT75yRde1NuaxfJcD8smECt3JVaFux0NfB0ByoqCJaO8rQj VK3V3+20/u9eOzpHdNRrLqxbYjVhGCNH7UKht/Vmo4J/K4YMb3wrkPSnMmRaCtGTwDj6 JAZ9iHxqLd0EEOhHTPuLbuCLnuTm7PsB3C/Ak= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kLsI/LOa4JvHb/VOHZO477AXfF4/r/Yn2og8ClgrDP5VuHr5KTVr/+0Cz86JO7PQVn sAsp84e1VttFkLxPrTn//0PblxKFpRpQ8rMGBoOpZotB9vhHhuWAbjvCXjTOqPqRtnRR 1g1YoU3YF79dBEJo7biJuqXoXRcOuepUcj4sQ= Received: by 10.216.220.213 with SMTP id o63mr1295937wep.98.1305466728549; Sun, 15 May 2011 06:38:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (bl19-97-63.dsl.telepac.pt [2.80.97.63]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s20sm2540869wbh.6.2011.05.15.06.38.47 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 15 May 2011 06:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DCFD766.2060203@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 14:38:46 +0100 From: pwnedomina User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: openvas X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 13:38:50 -0000 anyone knows how to configure openvas properly on FreeBSD? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 14:30:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54DB9106566B for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 14:30:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from mail.mroute.net (lax-gw12.mailroute.net [199.89.0.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8CE8FC0C for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 14:30:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lax-gw12.mroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7B03270702; Sun, 15 May 2011 14:30:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by MailRoute Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by lax-gw12.mroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B54B3270701; Sun, 15 May 2011 14:30:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 43EAB1CE3; Sun, 15 May 2011 07:30:03 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Chris Telting References: <4DC9DE2C.6070605@telting.org> <201105121657.57647.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4DCBFC39.8060900@telting.org> <201105130932.32144.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4DCD02EF.7050808@telting.org> <4DCFA872.9050208@telting.org> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.18.6.14; tzolkin = 3 Ix; haab = 2 Zip Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 07:30:03 -0700 In-Reply-To: <4DCFA872.9050208@telting.org> (Chris Telting's message of "Sun, 15 May 2011 03:18:26 -0700") Message-ID: <86oc34ox3o.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Alejandro Imass , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Established method to enable suid scripts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 14:30:05 -0000 >>>>> "Chris" == Chris Telting writes: Chris> I honestly tried when I posted the question to avoid the question Chris> of right or wrong. I simply have one opinion for my own need and Chris> preference and don't want to go into rigid detail and did not Chris> mean to reopen the issue. I simply wanted to know if anyone had a Chris> patch already or a flag enabled it. It's similar to the phrase Chris> that if you have to ask you can't afford it except in this case Chris> it means you can. I have a feeling someone somewhere did it. If Chris> no one comes forward I will post a proper patch for review and Chris> maintain documentation of the pitfalls to the extent I can and Chris> that others forward to me. I have no desire to change Freebsd's Chris> standard practice. I leave that to the steering committee of each Chris> and every distribution of unix like systems. I am simply grateful Chris> to be able to make my development systems work the way I want it Chris> to because I want it to. It's a question of complete phylosophy Chris> to me as to the base unix permissions system. I simply know what Chris> appeals most to me the way that I use systems. We all love Chris> Freebsd because it means choice. I apologize to anyone that Chris> thinks I reopened a can of worms and wasted time, it was not my Chris> goal. When a child reaches for a hot stove, the only moral thing to do is pull their hand back, without hesitating. That's what we're trying to do for you. Why are you not getting it? You *will* get burned. Why do you not trust the community to notice that for you? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 14:30:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120FF1065673 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 14:30:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35138FC19 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 14:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F068465F for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 10:30:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 10:30:06 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4DCF439A.6080604@cyb.fr> References: <4DCF439A.6080604@cyb.fr> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Unable to boot installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 14:30:17 -0000 --As of May 15, 2011 5:08:10 AM +0200, Cybil Courraud is alleged to have said: > I met the same problem with my x220 which is not resolved but you can > follow this workaround: > > 1 - Plug an external USB keyboard > 2 - boot with a memstick with 8.2 > 3 - In the loader: > set hint.atkbd.0.disabled=1 > boot > 4 - Follow install via network or other > 5 - Setup BIOS: Config > USB UEFI BIOS > disabled > 6 - reboot Thanks, that got me going. Any idea if this is fixed in -CURRENT? (I may try it anyway.) > You could try with a CD, directly without UEFI, it may work as is (I > didn't burn it for the exercise). That would be a problem unless you have a dock; turning off the USB UEFI BIOS makes it unable to boot from any USB device. Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 15:27:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E74F106566B for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 15:27:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacks@sage-american.com) Received: from mail.sagedata.net (mail.sagedata.net [38.106.15.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE2F48FC0A for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 15:27:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SAGEPLACE (99-111-143-27.lightspeed.crchtx.sbcglobal.net [99.111.143.27]) by mail.sagedata.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id p4FFRgCx083001; Sun, 15 May 2011 10:27:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jacks@sage-american.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.sagedata.net: Host 99-111-143-27.lightspeed.crchtx.sbcglobal.net [99.111.143.27] claimed to be SAGEPLACE Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20110515102740.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@sage-american.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 10:27:40 -0500 To: Eitan Adler From: "Jack L. Stone" In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.20110514171011.018a0598@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110514171011.018a0598@sage-american.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Greylist: Message whitelisted by Sendmail access database, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (mail.sagedata.net [38.106.15.121]); Sun, 15 May 2011 10:27:43 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: milter-spamc/1.15.388 (mail.sagedata.net [38.106.15.121]); Sun, 15 May 2011 10:27:43 -0500 X-Spam-Status: NO, hits=-10.00 required=4.50 X-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (-10.0 points, 4.5 required) | | pts rule name description | ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- | -0.0 SHORTCIRCUIT Not all rules were run, due to a shortcircuited rule | -10 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP | Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: find and remove ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 15:27:46 -0000 At 06:59 PM 5/14/2011 -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: >> I'm finally getting around to removing any remnants of frontpage. There are >> 1000s of _vti_* directories across several domains and need to clean those >> out. What's the best way to run a short script or command set to find and >> delete those? > >man 1 find > >find /path/to/start/deleting -type d -name _vti_\* -delete >run the command without -delete to see what will be removed. > > >-- >Eitan Adler > Thanks, Eitan, but it didn't delete. What did I do wrong? Jack (^_^) Happy trails, Jack L. Stone System Admin Sage-american From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 15:33:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A41E1065677 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 15:33:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 533D48FC16 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 15:33:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so3645432vws.13 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 08:33:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=6yLj9vFiE475H35vC8/jj+Lc55eoE7DHW3i5Lb/mukc=; b=OZuiu9AH03EOvjB5KLKMljQAkVVLD/V+sVPGwikFBMAboWJzpUCZcuBvV823qWOHsb DkelEIr14RdV4u2mpTViTYzqm/66XmUFYeo83F0nLlUU2I+2ul+SnWyVo8bSEsoYq7VN fC1Kk2HAhDRgNP+ENPkR3eKNgaNYxYQvRQPgA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=dtvthMkL6Io9I7cjC/IZfGst5Kgv1DcvImDgclwlU0VizqtQ/xL1deEJKQPWLWHPz5 LJAOqUa9m+juUJPCu5YtNI4w/GDF1EgyZ9Y09TSIPxBIayoLCoGHgoT1oJOsAtN06nM6 nA0AMaCCQN+Kdc2NkOV0FvndlYPgXF0YV6J2k= Received: by 10.52.174.38 with SMTP id bp6mr4953567vdc.90.1305473598203; Sun, 15 May 2011 08:33:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.110.42 with HTTP; Sun, 15 May 2011 08:32:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20110515102740.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> References: <3.0.1.32.20110514171011.018a0598@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110515102740.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> From: Eitan Adler Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 11:32:48 -0400 Message-ID: To: "Jack L. Stone" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: find and remove ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 15:33:26 -0000 > Thanks, Eitan, but it didn't delete. What did I do wrong? I would need to see what command you typed :-) Go to the top directory you start deleting from and type find . -name _vti_\* This will print out what it thinks should be deleted. If you don't see the directories you expect here then please be more specific about what should be deleted. If you do see the directories you expect and running the find command with "-delete" doesn't work then we could try and debug from that point. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 16:08:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A99E1065670 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 16:08:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacks@sage-american.com) Received: from mail.sagedata.net (mail.sagedata.net [38.106.15.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2475F8FC20 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 16:08:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SAGEPLACE (99-111-143-27.lightspeed.crchtx.sbcglobal.net [99.111.143.27]) by mail.sagedata.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id p4FG87hY083883; Sun, 15 May 2011 11:08:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jacks@sage-american.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.sagedata.net: Host 99-111-143-27.lightspeed.crchtx.sbcglobal.net [99.111.143.27] claimed to be SAGEPLACE Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20110515110806.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@sage-american.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 11:08:06 -0500 To: Eitan Adler From: "Jack L. Stone" In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.20110515102740.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110514171011.018a0598@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110515102740.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Greylist: Message whitelisted by Sendmail access database, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (mail.sagedata.net [38.106.15.121]); Sun, 15 May 2011 11:08:07 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: milter-spamc/1.15.388 (mail.sagedata.net [38.106.15.121]); Sun, 15 May 2011 11:08:07 -0500 X-Spam-Status: NO, hits=-10.00 required=4.50 X-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (-10.0 points, 4.5 required) | | pts rule name description | ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- | -0.0 SHORTCIRCUIT Not all rules were run, due to a shortcircuited rule | -10 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP | Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: find and remove ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 16:08:10 -0000 At 11:32 AM 5/15/2011 -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: >> Thanks, Eitan, but it didn't delete. What did I do wrong? > >I would need to see what command you typed :-) >Go to the top directory you start deleting from and type >find . -name _vti_\* > >This will print out what it thinks should be deleted. If you don't see >the directories you expect here then please be more specific about >what should be deleted. >If you do see the directories you expect and running the find command >with "-delete" doesn't work then we could try and debug from that >point. > > >-- >Eitan Adler > The comamnd: #find /path/to/start/deleting -type d -name _vti_\* worked fine to give the listing of what to delete, but when just adding the "-delete" at the end didn't delete, just ran the listing again. Jack (^_^) Happy trails, Jack L. Stone System Admin Sage-american From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 16:19:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DEBE106566C for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 16:19:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074EB8FC17 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 16:19:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxc34 with SMTP id 34so3694402vxc.13 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 09:19:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=C6IjXFtjptCPpspZcs7ruLNecNdSSANH/Hkiq1cZhmQ=; b=dXuHIY4YAjGRiOZYxK/kPSH+FRy+gTQbL8hgwAZKTKvnVcZmb3oBg2QQ7OsYVA/6hA P6askslt0ynlrvwuoMATFrap+4XOnIz6KhS3ZtHJ4KauN6guTLmViSu/r12QWigx+4hu 9S1DzipSlbCwViW9Coh8brIa8aunXb/6t/8RY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=X9ty4Z2gQVc/c3DCLXQ9pPy8rJqwtL95HXS3nOB94RFDJ4AP23fQc1bVwLIM0Y/pby rCcOWmlyjOxgOaVujlH+udjRbax0QpsiralX1IvSzOnpCJCxeC3TTprFY0RtSY6Zzg9B Hj00y2HDRSly4RmersuS7fJb+B9Rs6S2T9sI4= Received: by 10.52.172.2 with SMTP id ay2mr188762vdc.50.1305476393070; Sun, 15 May 2011 09:19:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.110.42 with HTTP; Sun, 15 May 2011 09:19:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20110515110806.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> References: <3.0.1.32.20110514171011.018a0598@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110515102740.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110515110806.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> From: Eitan Adler Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 12:19:23 -0400 Message-ID: To: "Jack L. Stone" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: find and remove ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 16:19:54 -0000 > The comamnd: > #find /path/to/start/deleting -type d -name _vti_\* > worked fine to give the listing of what to delete, but when just adding the > "-delete" at the end didn't delete, just ran the listing again. I forgot that adding the -type d won't let it delete non-empty directories. Try running it like: find /path/to/start/deleting -name _vti_\* -delete > > (^_^) -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 16:49:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1243106566C for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 16:49:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998B98FC14 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 16:49:40 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=8htJZOzK+32JgiXPFaBIk+xGfUW38sJQssohJ6TRaMM=; b=JS2ZqnaXZh57JorzoSlKAOaAN1xzjSFODqlh5qePPzk6eh6UhQs3DlbxoBA4VS05P5N5bok/PZimliVWvhuRtmZ6nnZsqMNzSQqvCO0VsvALbyhX8+46ZpsPa46ivBkxfDU9ODiwdGY4ypXVNm/wDNCo8CZVfroJ27oY2JhLnl4= Received: from [192.168.1.64] ([76.240.47.196]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 15 May 2011 09:49:40 -0700 Message-ID: <4DD00427.4080607@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 12:49:43 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2011 16:49:40.0818 (UTC) FILETIME=[158A7B20:01CC1320] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Subject: VIMAGE in fbsd 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 16:49:40 -0000 What is the current status of VIMAGE in Freebsd 9.0? Is VIMAGE going to be included in the basic 9.0 release as part of the default kernel? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 17:24:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE90106564A for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 17:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5152F8FC16 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 17:24:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so3922351wyf.13 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 10:24:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/XoOiRtVaRzfOc2D9eaE1C0XBiP/FMJ1St0DZKlC+WU=; b=Uv41O/Rx2wNpUNeUrPpZAe9cEBRkvQVmAFnM2kxo+z11thd3G8fYgILqPEjbmuLvzV +ytjbZo+RWOlfFhQMQ8labjrLYe+bi+OYAWKYestSxWpavDmZe91QSol1WjWTtupAMQ0 0laqxezuBgMRv3IoqwaLoQ1BOI1BG1EuFTT80= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=E4TsYFfWzOMDqE/Wv8JZDPYMEllD2kipfemyn1wVmWgDSdTWugCF/BGqeoDK5HoUOB wczbsks5gbIwByVIaXAmmGCIQAKf/nt4t2c2hUx6eOQLpK2aiZkHevmhRzinIXk4P1gR m5YM2mBAXb3e1zzksnsHFpzt2BZ/MHxTiQTic= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.136.67 with SMTP id v45mr1473007wei.106.1305480268047; Sun, 15 May 2011 10:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.90.145 with HTTP; Sun, 15 May 2011 10:24:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86oc34ox3o.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <4DC9DE2C.6070605@telting.org> <201105121657.57647.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4DCBFC39.8060900@telting.org> <201105130932.32144.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4DCD02EF.7050808@telting.org> <4DCFA872.9050208@telting.org> <86oc34ox3o.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 18:24:27 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Chris Telting , Alejandro Imass , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Established method to enable suid scripts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 17:24:29 -0000 On 15 May 2011 15:30, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>> "Chris" == Chris Telting writes: > > Chris> I honestly tried when I posted the question to avoid the question > Chris> of right or wrong. I simply have one opinion for my own need and > Chris> preference and don't want to go into rigid detail and did not > Chris> mean to reopen the issue. I simply wanted to know if anyone had a > Chris> patch already or a flag enabled it. It's similar to the phrase > Chris> that if you have to ask you can't afford it except in this case > Chris> it means you can. I have a feeling someone somewhere did it. If > Chris> no one comes forward I will post a proper patch for review and > Chris> maintain documentation of the pitfalls to the extent I can and > Chris> that others forward to me. I have no desire to change Freebsd's > Chris> standard practice. I leave that to the steering committee of each > Chris> and every distribution of unix like systems. I am simply grateful > Chris> to be able to make my development systems work the way I want it > Chris> to because I want it to. It's a question of complete phylosophy > Chris> to me as to the base unix permissions system. I simply know what > Chris> appeals most to me the way that I use systems. We all love > Chris> Freebsd because it means choice. I apologize to anyone that > Chris> thinks I reopened a can of worms and wasted time, it was not my > Chris> goal. > > When a child reaches for a hot stove, the only moral thing to do is pull > their hand back, without hesitating. > > That's what we're trying to do for you. Why are you not getting it? > > You *will* get burned. Why do you not trust the community to notice > that for you? > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I also think you would get a similar reaction from the majority of any unix communality for any distro/release. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 17:41:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1B8106564A for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 17:41:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacks@sage-american.com) Received: from mail.sagedata.net (mail.sagedata.net [38.106.15.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954AD8FC0A for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 17:41:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SAGEPLACE (99-111-143-27.lightspeed.crchtx.sbcglobal.net [99.111.143.27]) by mail.sagedata.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id p4FHfI2L087604; Sun, 15 May 2011 12:41:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jacks@sage-american.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.sagedata.net: Host 99-111-143-27.lightspeed.crchtx.sbcglobal.net [99.111.143.27] claimed to be SAGEPLACE Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20110515124117.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@sage-american.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 12:41:17 -0500 To: Eitan Adler From: "Jack L. Stone" In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.20110515110806.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110514171011.018a0598@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110515102740.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110515110806.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Greylist: Message whitelisted by Sendmail access database, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (mail.sagedata.net [38.106.15.121]); Sun, 15 May 2011 12:41:19 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: milter-spamc/1.15.388 (mail.sagedata.net [38.106.15.121]); Sun, 15 May 2011 12:41:19 -0500 X-Spam-Status: NO, hits=-10.00 required=4.50 X-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (-10.0 points, 4.5 required) | | pts rule name description | ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- | -0.0 SHORTCIRCUIT Not all rules were run, due to a shortcircuited rule | -10 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP | Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: find and remove ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 17:41:21 -0000 At 12:19 PM 5/15/2011 -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: >> The comamnd: >> #find /path/to/start/deleting -type d -name _vti_\* >> worked fine to give the listing of what to delete, but when just adding the >> "-delete" at the end didn't delete, just ran the listing again. > >I forgot that adding the -type d won't let it delete non-empty >directories. Try running it like: >find /path/to/start/deleting -name _vti_\* -delete > >> >> (^_^) > > Nope. Thate didn't delete either. Jack (^_^) Happy trails, Jack L. Stone System Admin Sage-american From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 17:41:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78533106564A for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 17:41:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6B08FC12 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 17:41:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk27 with SMTP id 27so2388850pzk.13 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 10:41:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=5NfJOYOg4A/zR6b+VFJ6jZFYWkdOjtfUxTNfTThJZSQ=; b=MiGjmqOB8n+g2YoXKCFHpVbganNldibhx2GGPnmt0ZykVmoI3XvnQrd1JsaJgyldNk 0FdEheYEIdAXZoACLdt6PPJJz7mmD8BJI2PLaOUvqVzo7asmh53J+SpfqKz8tAVjNjvl 3ckX+9iC3lXdf1oEhmIKgluxrn9JRXJTtpheY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=Ua1RTSvzQWM/lzcKRuHmILMQkD2uivRlvmA34DE3iNRONFlGtTZSG7ldv+D46GSacb YtTaTp7OnnGkE6MZ+tSAxxg8DUnM3l168VeOnGn9WAyFbu7XZxcYdiyiCL40Ngdgrh91 No2OqGkBX8lf3Vee57qg0cohsM2zNoy5q211M= Received: by 10.68.32.168 with SMTP id k8mr3644521pbi.157.1305479894042; Sun, 15 May 2011 10:18:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.51.42 with HTTP; Sun, 15 May 2011 10:17:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DCFD766.2060203@gmail.com> References: <4DCFD766.2060203@gmail.com> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 20:17:34 +0300 Message-ID: To: pwnedomina Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=bcaec520f3f758893804a353b964 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openvas X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 17:41:28 -0000 --bcaec520f3f758893804a353b964 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 16:38, pwnedomina wrote: > anyone knows how to configure openvas properly on FreeBSD? > > If you read this [0], [1] and finally this [2] - then it doesn't seem so difficult. [0] http://hurricanelabs.com/lighthouse/newsletters/past/openvas-up-close-and-personal-part-1/ [1] http://hackertarget.com/2009/06/guide-to-openvas-on-ubuntu-904/ [2] http://blog.hazrulnz.net/1338/openvas-part-1.html -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email. --bcaec520f3f758893804a353b964-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 17:50:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8433B106566C for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 17:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from mailgw6.surf-town.net (mail6.surf-town.net [212.97.132.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317958FC12 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 17:50:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mailgw6.surf-town.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 8586D5FA97; Sun, 15 May 2011 19:50:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw6.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542C95FA97; Sun, 15 May 2011 19:50:24 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailgw6.surf-town.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.44 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.44 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.44] Received: from mailgw6.surf-town.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw6.surf-town.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id bWuE2hS6vfic; Sun, 15 May 2011 19:50:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lazlar.kicks-ass.net (c-0987e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.227.135.9]) by mailgw6.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 732305F982; Sun, 15 May 2011 19:50:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4DD01257.1070905@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 19:50:15 +0200 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110502 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jack L. Stone" References: <3.0.1.32.20110515110806.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110514171011.018a0598@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110515102740.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110515110806.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110515124117.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20110515124117.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Eitan Adler , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: find and remove ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 17:50:26 -0000 2011-05-15 19:41, Jack L. Stone skrev: > At 12:19 PM 5/15/2011 -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: >>> The comamnd: >>> #find /path/to/start/deleting -type d -name _vti_\* >>> worked fine to give the listing of what to delete, but when just adding the >>> "-delete" at the end didn't delete, just ran the listing again. >> >> I forgot that adding the -type d won't let it delete non-empty >> directories. Try running it like: >> find /path/to/start/deleting -name _vti_\* -delete >> >>> >>> (^_^) >> >> > > Nope. Thate didn't delete either. > > Jack > > (^_^) > Happy trails, > Jack L. Stone > > System Admin > Sage-american > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > find /path/to/start/deleting -name _vti_\* -exec rm -Rd {} \; From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 18:01:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B475106566B for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 18:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacks@sage-american.com) Received: from mail.sagedata.net (mail.sagedata.net [38.106.15.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516508FC18 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 18:01:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SAGEPLACE (99-111-143-27.lightspeed.crchtx.sbcglobal.net [99.111.143.27]) by mail.sagedata.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id p4FI11qG089387; Sun, 15 May 2011 13:01:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jacks@sage-american.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.sagedata.net: Host 99-111-143-27.lightspeed.crchtx.sbcglobal.net [99.111.143.27] claimed to be SAGEPLACE Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20110515130100.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@sage-american.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 13:01:00 -0500 To: Rolf Nielsen From: "Jack L. Stone" In-Reply-To: <4DD01257.1070905@lazlarlyricon.com> References: <3.0.1.32.20110515124117.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110515110806.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110514171011.018a0598@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110515102740.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110515110806.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110515124117.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Greylist: Message whitelisted by Sendmail access database, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (mail.sagedata.net [38.106.15.121]); Sun, 15 May 2011 13:01:02 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: milter-spamc/1.15.388 (mail.sagedata.net [38.106.15.121]); Sun, 15 May 2011 13:01:02 -0500 X-Spam-Status: NO, hits=-10.00 required=4.50 X-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (-10.0 points, 4.5 required) | | pts rule name description | ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- | -0.0 SHORTCIRCUIT Not all rules were run, due to a shortcircuited rule | -10 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP | Cc: Eitan Adler , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: find and remove ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 18:01:03 -0000 At 07:50 PM 5/15/2011 +0200, Rolf Nielsen wrote: >2011-05-15 19:41, Jack L. Stone skrev: >> At 12:19 PM 5/15/2011 -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: >>>> The comamnd: >>>> #find /path/to/start/deleting -type d -name _vti_\* >>>> worked fine to give the listing of what to delete, but when just adding the >>>> "-delete" at the end didn't delete, just ran the listing again. >>> >>> I forgot that adding the -type d won't let it delete non-empty >>> directories. Try running it like: >>> find /path/to/start/deleting -name _vti_\* -delete >>> >>>> >>>> (^_^) >>> >>> >> >> Nope. Thate didn't delete either. >> >> Jack > >find /path/to/start/deleting -name _vti_\* -exec rm -Rd {} \; >_______________________________________________ That worked! Thanks! Jack (^_^) Happy trails, Jack L. Stone System Admin Sage-american From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 18:04:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCADD1065670 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 18:04:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B718FC08 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 18:04:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yie12 with SMTP id 12so1523275yie.13 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 11:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.186.106 with SMTP id v70mr3445403yhm.207.1305482660864; Sun, 15 May 2011 11:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi.localnet ([187.112.4.223]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x76sm2031941yhn.94.2011.05.15.11.04.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 15 May 2011 11:04:19 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Mario Lobo Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 15:03:19 -0300 X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201105151503.19272.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: pptpd problem (re-post) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 18:04:22 -0000 Sorry for the re-post but I am really lost here. Any hints, clues, pointers, opinions would be appreciated. I have a VPN server on FBSD 8.1. The vpn closes fine. But as soon as I start doing something with an inside LAN machine i.e. an RDP session, I get this: May 14 12:46:06 suporte pptpd[1958]: GRE: xmit failed from decaps_hdlc: No buffer space available and the VPN tunnel drops. I googled a lot for it but I didn't find any thing that could help. The system WAS working OK before. I tried everything I could think of. Could anyone help? Thanks, -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) pptpd: poptop-1.3.4_2 System: FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #0: Mon Feb 28 20:47:00 BRT 2011 i386 last pid: 2145; load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 28 processes: 1 running, 27 sleeping CPU: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 1.1% interrupt, 98.9% idle Mem: 15M Active, 13M Inact, 58M Wired, 28K Cache, 44M Buf, 1892M Free Swap: 4000M Total, 4000M Free sysctl.conf: security.bsd.see_other_uids=0 security.bsd.see_other_gids=0 debug.cpufreq.lowest=400 kern.maxfiles=65536 kern.maxfilesperproc=32768 kern.maxvnodes=600000 kern.ipc.shmmax=67108864 kern.ipc.shmall=16384 kern.ipc.nmbclusters=32768 kern.ipc.somaxconn=32768 net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=1 net.inet.tcp.drop_synfin=1 net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65536 net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536 net.inet.tcp.blackhole=2 net.inet.udp.blackhole=1 net.inet.icmp.drop_redirect=1 net.inet.icmp.icmplim_output=0 net.inet.icmp.icmplim=2000 net.inet.tcp.path_mtu_discovery=0 net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_auto=1 net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_inc=16384 net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_max=16777216 net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_auto=1 net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_inc=8192 net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_max=16777216 pf.conf(relevant rules): #--- Allow vpns from anywhere to anywhere pass log quick on $ext_if inet proto gre all queue (ssh_bulk, ack) pass log quick on $ext_if inet proto tcp from any to any port pptp flags S/SA queue (ssh_bulk, ack) pass log quick on $aln_if inet proto gre all queue (ssh_bulk, ack) pass log quick on $aln_if inet proto tcp from any to any port pptp flags S/SA queue (ssh_bulk, ack) options.pptpd: proxyarp lock name ppp.conf: default: set timeout 1200 # set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP TUN Command Connect set log Phase Chat TUN Connect set dial set login set ifaddr 172.16.3.200/24 172.16.3.201-172.16.3.239 255.255.255.0 set server /tmp/tun%d "" 0177 # set lqrperiod 20 # set echoperiod 20 # enable lqr echo pptp: disable ipv6cp pap chap disable deflate pred1 deny deflate pred1 enable proxy accept dns set mtu max 1024 set dns 172.16.3.133 set nbns 172.16.3.133 enable MSChapV2 enable mppe set mppe * stateful set radius /etc/ppp/radius.conf set rad_alive 60 allow mode direct From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 18:05:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A81F106564A for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 18:05:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from mailgw20.surf-town.net (mail11.surf-town.net [212.97.132.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC298FC18 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 18:05:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mailgw20.surf-town.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 95F5361D6C; Sun, 15 May 2011 20:05:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw20.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C69761D2E; Sun, 15 May 2011 20:05:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailgw20.surf-town.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.44 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.44 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.44] Received: from mailgw20.surf-town.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw20.surf-town.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 8KZNakspqibF; Sun, 15 May 2011 20:05:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lazlar.kicks-ass.net (c-0987e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.227.135.9]) by mailgw20.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A0FAC61DB4; Sun, 15 May 2011 20:05:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4DD015D2.6070904@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 20:05:06 +0200 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110502 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jack L. Stone" References: <3.0.1.32.20110515110806.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110514171011.018a0598@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110515102740.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110515110806.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110515124117.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> <4DD01257.1070905@lazlarlyricon.com> In-Reply-To: <4DD01257.1070905@lazlarlyricon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Eitan Adler , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: find and remove ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 18:05:17 -0000 2011-05-15 19:50, Rolf Nielsen skrev: > 2011-05-15 19:41, Jack L. Stone skrev: >> At 12:19 PM 5/15/2011 -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: >>>> The comamnd: >>>> #find /path/to/start/deleting -type d -name _vti_\* >>>> worked fine to give the listing of what to delete, but when just >>>> adding the >>>> "-delete" at the end didn't delete, just ran the listing again. >>> >>> I forgot that adding the -type d won't let it delete non-empty >>> directories. Try running it like: >>> find /path/to/start/deleting -name _vti_\* -delete >>> >>>> >>>> (^_^) >>> >>> >> >> Nope. Thate didn't delete either. >> >> Jack >> >> (^_^) >> Happy trails, >> Jack L. Stone >> >> System Admin >> Sage-american >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > find /path/to/start/deleting -name _vti_\* -exec rm -Rd {} \; Pardon my answering my own post, but after reading the find manpage, I think perhaps find -d /path/to/start/deleting -type d -name _vti_\* -exec rm -Rd {} \; would be better. The -d option makes find visit the contents of a directory before the directory itself. The one without the -d option deletes the topmost directory it finds and then tries to traverse downwards, which of course causes a warning. It still works though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 19:18:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0168A1065670 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 19:18:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh1.interactivevillages.com (ca.2e.7bae.static.theplanet.com [174.123.46.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD7C48FC15 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 19:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-24-22-230-24.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([24.22.230.24] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh1.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QLgpi-0002Cl-Bb for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:07 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:29 -0700 Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110515191828.GA3647@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh1.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 19:18:34 -0000 --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Lars Eighner on Sunday, 15 May 2011: > On Sat, 14 May 2011, Rob Clark wrote: >=20 > >After restarting X, prior to any reboot, I lost the mouse in X. > >So I figured a reboot was in order. >=20 > This is almost certainly HAL. If you do not know you need HAL for > something, mark the hal and hal-info ports FORBIDDEN (set FORBIDDEN to any > value in the Makefiles) whenever you update your ports tree. Grep=20 > /var/db/ports > for hal and then remove the with hal option in the affected ports using m= ake > config. Force reinstall the affected ports. Try to pkg_delete hal, to= =20 > check > for dependencies you haven't resolved. When all the dependencies are > removed, then remove hal. >=20 That's some good advice. I was able to remove hal using this approach, but only after removing firefox, gimp, gnumeric, dia and several others. When I reinstalled firefox, it didn't need HAL -- but when I reinstalled gimp the first thing it did was build HAL. I didn't find HAL in any of gimp's options, and I have "WITHOUT_HAL=3DYES" in /etc/make.conf. The HAL daemon hald isn't running, and gimp seems to work. I wish I could figure out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it. --=20 =2EO. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com =2E.O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN0CcEAAoJEIpckszW26+RKBIH/AzPSzsFetSnrCsD6kumV6Vs Kf/CRAxXvdWHAqxH6kLC0IXWI66QsyShnuZVWsiGziqEkPxLFzPXvPZEM/p/AR+e KR8ZhdtHwB23INzxfFAaFaHmh3p0EZ99ujLOmQVuML47C6V6yyzr6UvBhpR4pIm7 UebD/49HBcV7zjZsH6osYvBADJPj+KGFcWOQz4F3TojB6YSuOmHgkZ02wJVTxiUo MOv7r9+opAwMgeVEBU0Ur2KN2JaTv9J9pEuG7QQk4mktYMNHPfgnygCMC5neEobb t1UxnIsJKY/L0F/OZABwyO78RQ3iFUlVuYUFWGgQCrNUkjqdcZ9c9+YarYHPLwk= =G+ai -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 19:43:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8424106566B for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 19:43:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linuxtux37@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f176.google.com (mail-px0-f176.google.com [209.85.212.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CFB8FC0A for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 19:43:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi11 with SMTP id 11so3412801pxi.7 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 12:43:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=svccHCh+MFb9Wy4kUFXGgNx6bPRXhFGIYlrZgCPSRxg=; b=q1xF5RA+RHwMH3Wx2yrf0LAzuphKzKreJ+BA+W4A4T0GxM4rudQN2vV7mIBBzB73HC fhhXusLC3lnVnrfvtQN4cA9N7R4se+FUA0NkmgZ38OTDrsxTtNTUGjI2mVKLoxNrCAZp p35iXtpMDvD8mk2rpAxtXkxnqWp3CtrsBwf3Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=ctsWqzUC/gXtnzJKvzjlWduyVgrO9UWTXvSlCv3bMCP4QuZ+fTQiHhyDNERt++8kKr 3maE3k2Ui9ghIbDOnuNWOxJrjnJoz4oPpX52OtiGUghw8YpscF4Pgs5uiRQC9IWjPy3C nFE+5LeU3TMIAJbr9ZdZlAO0qeXAEJWJbSqOg= Received: by 10.142.165.14 with SMTP id n14mr2266760wfe.109.1305488584061; Sun, 15 May 2011 12:43:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.203.1 with HTTP; Sun, 15 May 2011 12:42:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Alexander Lardner Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 12:42:43 -0700 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Boot from DVD to install hangs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 19:43:04 -0000 Hello, I have burned a DVD (I was out of CDs) image of PowerPC 8.2 to install on my old iMac G3. However, it stops at the line that reads: acd0: DVDROM at ata0-slave UDMA33 What the heck does that mean, and why does it get stuck? Thanks for any help, Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 21:55:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E71106564A for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 21:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacks@sage-american.com) Received: from mail.sagedata.net (mail.sagedata.net [38.106.15.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B7E8FC12 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 21:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SAGEPLACE (99-111-143-27.lightspeed.crchtx.sbcglobal.net [99.111.143.27]) by mail.sagedata.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id p4FLtFJB098142; Sun, 15 May 2011 16:55:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jacks@sage-american.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.sagedata.net: Host 99-111-143-27.lightspeed.crchtx.sbcglobal.net [99.111.143.27] claimed to be SAGEPLACE Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20110515165514.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@sage-american.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 16:55:14 -0500 To: Rolf Nielsen From: "Jack L. Stone" In-Reply-To: <4DD015D2.6070904@lazlarlyricon.com> References: <4DD01257.1070905@lazlarlyricon.com> <3.0.1.32.20110515110806.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110514171011.018a0598@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110515102740.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110515110806.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20110515124117.0195b6e0@sage-american.com> <4DD01257.1070905@lazlarlyricon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Greylist: Message whitelisted by Sendmail access database, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (mail.sagedata.net [38.106.15.121]); Sun, 15 May 2011 16:55:16 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: milter-spamc/1.15.388 (mail.sagedata.net [38.106.15.121]); Sun, 15 May 2011 16:55:16 -0500 X-Spam-Status: NO, hits=-10.00 required=4.50 X-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (-10.0 points, 4.5 required) | | pts rule name description | ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- | -0.0 SHORTCIRCUIT Not all rules were run, due to a shortcircuited rule | -10 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP | Cc: Eitan Adler , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: find and remove ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 21:55:18 -0000 At 08:05 PM 5/15/2011 +0200, Rolf Nielsen wrote: >2011-05-15 19:50, Rolf Nielsen skrev: >> 2011-05-15 19:41, Jack L. Stone skrev: >>> At 12:19 PM 5/15/2011 -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: >>>>> The comamnd: >>>>> #find /path/to/start/deleting -type d -name _vti_\* >>>>> worked fine to give the listing of what to delete, but when just >>>>> adding the >>>>> "-delete" at the end didn't delete, just ran the listing again. >>>> >>>> I forgot that adding the -type d won't let it delete non-empty >>>> directories. Try running it like: >>>> find /path/to/start/deleting -name _vti_\* -delete >>>> >>>>> >>>>> (^_^) >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Nope. Thate didn't delete either. >>> >>> Jack >>> >>> (^_^) >>> Happy trails, >>> Jack L. Stone >>> >>> System Admin >>> Sage-american >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> >> >> find /path/to/start/deleting -name _vti_\* -exec rm -Rd {} \; > >Pardon my answering my own post, but after reading the find manpage, I >think perhaps > >find -d /path/to/start/deleting -type d -name _vti_\* -exec rm -Rd {} \; > >would be better. The -d option makes find visit the contents of a >directory before the directory itself. The one without the -d option >deletes the topmost directory it finds and then tries to traverse >downwards, which of course causes a warning. It still works though. > Thanks for the follow-up. I'll try it too. Jack (^_^) Happy trails, Jack L. Stone System Admin Sage-american From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 00:28:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF30D106564A for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 00:28:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linuxtux37@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 584E68FC0A for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 00:28:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk27 with SMTP id 27so2484565pzk.13 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 17:28:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id :date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=o8rGkORfPdXcZlYj+A8IwccbkjH4eiZTr3mCUwxc60o=; b=qQXAPjBbyd9ODH8HqIehUsFjtsP1nOsd0dmwD78FIHDlftiXHXRosSs07yqDZ2MM3t EB7jBT+fhLHRwYbYAuBz9WI0iKkvtbb4xlrhPswxc8toluPW+seT8iMEVZYVHjvleZAP DoQUHZ619diDRxxeU+9KoAW7d8CQdhFsTdet4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=O6P6nZv5xRD5wXkw0Q2qujlGt5L/bOU+9f17BI6kIw//MAP3atiVi1d0ER7GXwxpJb QKdAJOVrpO8ih5uitf+GiZ7ldlft7kk8dQw4LM7YgFmUj+YqtviJr8Vqzrv3iHbxAaOY SKvZ9FtCACiv9pKDMDF/YpVYpwoCELvY/yHew= Received: by 10.68.63.69 with SMTP id e5mr6062380pbs.307.1305505716773; Sun, 15 May 2011 17:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (pool-98-119-28-201.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [98.119.28.201]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a6sm2918298pbs.81.2011.05.15.17.28.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 15 May 2011 17:28:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Alexander Lardner X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8J2) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 17:28:18 -0700 To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8J2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: CD Boot to install hangs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 00:28:37 -0000 Hello, I am re-asking as it's rather urgent. I have burned a CD of PowerPC 8.2 to install on my old iMac G3. It boots, bu= t it stops at the line that reads: acd0: DVDROM at ata0-slave UDMA33 What the heck does that mean, and why does it get stuck? More importantly, h= ow do I fix it? Thanks for any help, Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 03:15:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4E0106566C for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 03:15:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D278FC0C for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 03:15:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p4G3FJYl028048 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 15 May 2011 20:15:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p4G3FJp8028047; Sun, 15 May 2011 20:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA13064; Sun, 15 May 11 20:04:04 PDT Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 20:03:29 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd@edvax.de Message-Id: <4dd09401.Qf5DE46mpnXg4G2w%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110515103646.7558ddb2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110515103646.7558ddb2.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: rpclark@ymail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 03:15:29 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > Do _NOT_ hotplug the PS/2 port! It's not capable of that! > > I've seen myself in the past that trying so caused a mainboard > to fly into the garbage can - as hotplugging the keyboard > seemed to have damaged the PS/2 port (it didn't work anymore, > with no keyboard). This is conventional wisdom, and I believed it until I came across, as an enclosure with a Belkin "F8E206c" PS/2 keyboard that had 3 extra keys*, specific instructions to unplug the keyboard, wait 5 seconds, and replug it to get past a BIOS incompatibility on some Intel boards using the SE440BX-2 chipset. (The next step was to upgrade the BIOS, but the hotplug exercise was necessary to get to the point of being _able_ to upgrade the BIOS.) * Power, Sleep, & WakeUp; presumably intended for ACPI or APM. > However, you actually CAN do this with USB. Yes, USB was designed to be hot-pluggable. > And I've done hotplugging with an old AT ("big" 5 pin keyboard > connector) and HIL connect/disconnect at the keyboard (!) without > any problem (IBM model M, the famous one). The AT and PS/2 keyboard interfaces are electrically identical -- only the physical connector is different. (I have seen, and used, adapters to connect either type of keyboard to the other type of system. Such adapters have no active components, just the two connectors wired together.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 03:25:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2111106564A for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 03:25:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67B18FC0A for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 03:25:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5AEB709 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 23:25:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 23:25:41 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4dd09401.Qf5DE46mpnXg4G2w%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110515103646.7558ddb2.freebsd@edvax.de> <4dd09401.Qf5DE46mpnXg4G2w%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 03:25:42 -0000 --As of May 15, 2011 8:03:29 PM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com is alleged to have said: > The AT and PS/2 keyboard interfaces are electrically identical -- > only the physical connector is different. (I have seen, and used, > adapters to connect either type of keyboard to the other type of > system. Such adapters have no active components, just the two > connectors wired together.) --As for the rest, it is mine. The physical connector is all that actually needs to be different: Hot-swap interfaces make a point of connecting ground before power, usually be longer ground pins. Although I don't think it matters in this case. I could check, but I'd have to unplug my keyboard from the computer I'm on. ;) Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 05:25:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35298106566B for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 05:25:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D1F8FC08 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 05:25:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p4G5PjMa041558 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 22:25:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p4G5PjXL041557 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 May 2011 22:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA13421; Sun, 15 May 11 22:03:30 PDT Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 22:02:54 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4dd0affe.XOOWAi+bOV2dBAI6%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110515103646.7558ddb2.freebsd@edvax.de> <4dd09401.Qf5DE46mpnXg4G2w%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 05:25:46 -0000 Daniel Staal wrote: > --As of May 15, 2011 8:03:29 PM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com is > alleged to have said: > > > The AT and PS/2 keyboard interfaces are electrically identical > > -- only the physical connector is different. > > --As for the rest, it is mine. > > The physical connector is all that actually needs to be different: > Hot-swap interfaces make a point of connecting ground before power, > usually be longer ground pins. The PS/2 should qualify on this point, provided it is wired _correctly_ (with the connector shell grounded both on the motherboard and in the cable). I'm less sure about the AT, which used a 5-pin DIN plug that may not even have had a shell-ground on the motherboard -- we were less concerned about generating RFI in those days. IIRC all 5 pins were the same length. It's possible this particular Belkin keyboard used longer pins for power and ground than for signal, so as to be safely hot-pluggable even if the motherboard didn't ground the connector shell. However, I've since gotten by with hot-plugging a PS/2 trackball on the same machine a couple of times, to clear lockups. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 08:00:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B78106566C for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 08:00:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A4D8FC13 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 08:00:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346FE3CACC; Mon, 16 May 2011 10:00:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p4G80cfI002124; Mon, 16 May 2011 10:00:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 10:00:38 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chip Camden Message-Id: <20110516100038.9940bcfc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110515191828.GA3647@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110515191828.GA3647@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 08:00:41 -0000 On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > I wish I could figure > out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it. I would assume that the HAL dependency may be required by some deeper-inside Gnome part that is used by Gimp, maybe a part of the Gtk+ library... I'm not sure it's trivial to find out which one it is. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 08:04:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32591065673 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 08:04:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D8C8FC0A for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 08:04:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47ED3CC51; Mon, 16 May 2011 10:04:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p4G84NIe002128; Mon, 16 May 2011 10:04:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 10:04:23 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Alexander Lardner Message-Id: <20110516100423.8ba79c7c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: CD Boot to install hangs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 08:04:25 -0000 On Sun, 15 May 2011 17:28:18 -0700, Alexander Lardner wrote: > Hello, > I am re-asking as it's rather urgent. > I have burned a CD of PowerPC 8.2 to install on my old iMac G3. > It boots, but it stops at the line that reads: > > acd0: DVDROM at ata0-slave UDMA33 > > What the heck does that mean, and why does it get stuck? This line is the kernel message identifying the optical drive of your iMac, which is connected to the 1st ATA controller as slave drive (and I assume the master drive will be the hard disk, watch for "ad0" message). > More importantly, how do I fix it? I'm not sure, I sadly don't own iHardware. Maybe check cables of optical drive? At least the kernel boots - that's good for the beginning. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 08:14:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DDD1065675 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 08:14:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A0D618FC0C for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 08:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 May 2011 08:14:04 -0000 Received: from adsl-137.109.242.63.tellas.gr (EHLO [192.168.73.192]) [109.242.63.137] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu004) with SMTP; 16 May 2011 10:14:05 +0200 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/vTSwM0NDvXVeu/4sQe1fAfx88EZ/9iH/auk/N+U aFE08A2+3NJVsc Message-ID: <4DD0DCC9.5050900@gmx.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 11:14:01 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fbsd8 References: <4DD00427.4080607@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4DD00427.4080607@a1poweruser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: VIMAGE in fbsd 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 08:14:07 -0000 On 5/15/2011 7:49 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: > What is the current status of VIMAGE in Freebsd 9.0? I *think* all VIMAGE related code in 9.0 has been merged to 8-STABLE. It is still tagged experimental. Most things work. Is there something that doesn't work for you? > Is VIMAGE going to be included in the basic 9.0 release as part of the > default kernel? Speaking unofficially, VIMAGE will not be in the GENERIC kernel for 9.0-RELEASE. It will be tagged stable first, remain an optional feature for some time and then I think there is the possibility of appearing in the GENERIC kernel. I believe that's not going to happen soon, if ever. Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 14:27:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC3B106564A for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 14:27:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178FA8FC16 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 14:27:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-iw0-f182.google.com with SMTP id 33so5502648iwn.13 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 07:27:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=kWvt7jQiGpivWLEMWlnD4XyRr95QrmsmDynDcNJW6LY=; b=M11cBOJJNU3An57qIKsTjiX/8zdD8e4vGmqxjLhDooIQZY9UQzCyom3kBWISTFQm4+ wrGSkzQASyrIVMYSMz94Q9ZM/dFA3mW+mJY5B0qlrljzI/j/HUxsm9qHFgJjVnJb+8Vk 228+8xgkWx0B9Lhkhk+DgvX0IAGxj6bvRvleY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=mbY6rN8r2Soi6DoQS2WpDr+rwAuz7U7rR1gbL6MYBSofGQVUKHF6ypPUgCycrpUPx/ cdddPHRuGOX1JN/varZKfTJSYSSvGsweHCPGPv0kkyUXj9DGT5DQWjbxv+meUtDaUd6G sZ0e60tljuXLWFL+WknEA/MaA/Jk01wI55h8M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.126.195 with SMTP id d3mr3108155ibs.16.1305556055853; Mon, 16 May 2011 07:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.208.79 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2011 07:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 16:27:35 +0200 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: adding new disk >2TB, gpt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 14:27:36 -0000 I have a running FreeBSD-8.2-amd system, FreeBSD was installed in jan 2009 (then FreeBSD 7.0), which a fisk disk of 200 GB for /, swap /usr /var /tmp. Later that month, I added a 9 TB disk using /sbin/gpt (since sysinstall uses bsdlabel/fdisk, it can't create disks larger than 2 TB) I want to add an extra >2TB disk... and thought to use gpt again as I did in the past .. The FreeBSD book (in its 2011 version), section 18.3 still refers to using gpt for disks >2TB but the link gpt(8) leads to nowhere and /sbin/gpt no longer exists in FreeBSD ! There seem to be two alternatives: 1) /sbin/gpart, of which the man page is quite similar to what gpt used to be, but tells me it is ''for disk partitoning GEOM class", whereas gpt man pages (in 2009) said: gpt - "GUID partition table maintenance utility". 2) a port sysutils/gdisk of which the Long Description says: "Edit GUID partition table (GPT) definitions in Linux, FreeBSD, MacOS X or Windows" but its web site shows a completely different command line interface, not resembling the old gpt at all.. What is exactly that difference between GEOM and GUID ? I'd like to have things as similar as possible .. Can I use /sbin/gpart for the extra 9 GB disk ? or do I have to stick with GUID and use gdisk ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 14:27:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BFF1065670 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 14:27:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248408FC08 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 14:27:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07787BD for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 10:27:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 10:27:35 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <10F63344ABE3D90FFAF0BC99@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: <20110516100038.9940bcfc.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110515191828.GA3647@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516100038.9940bcfc.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 14:27:39 -0000 --As of May 16, 2011 10:00:38 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have said: > On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden > wrote: >> I wish I could figure >> out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it. > > I would assume that the HAL dependency may be required by > some deeper-inside Gnome part that is used by Gimp, maybe > a part of the Gtk+ library... I'm not sure it's trivial to > find out which one it is. --As for the rest, it is mine. Sure it is: cd /usr/ports/sysutils/hal make deinstall It will list what ports require it. ;) Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 14:34:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFE6106564A for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 14:34:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9448FC0C for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 14:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p4GEYILO022486; Mon, 16 May 2011 08:34:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p4GEYIfx022483; Mon, 16 May 2011 08:34:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 08:34:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20110516100423.8ba79c7c.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20110516100423.8ba79c7c.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 16 May 2011 08:34:18 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Alexander Lardner , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: CD Boot to install hangs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 14:34:22 -0000 On Mon, 16 May 2011, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 15 May 2011 17:28:18 -0700, Alexander Lardner wrote: >> Hello, >> I am re-asking as it's rather urgent. >> I have burned a CD of PowerPC 8.2 to install on my old iMac G3. >> It boots, but it stops at the line that reads: >> >> acd0: DVDROM at ata0-slave UDMA33 >> >> What the heck does that mean, and why does it get stuck? > > This line is the kernel message identifying the optical > drive of your iMac, which is connected to the 1st ATA > controller as slave drive (and I assume the master drive > will be the hard disk, watch for "ad0" message). > >> More importantly, how do I fix it? > > I'm not sure, I sadly don't own iHardware. Maybe check > cables of optical drive? It could be the next step that is a problem, whatever comes after the CD device detection on a G3. On i386, that includes launching other processors and USB device detection. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 15:06:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC393106564A for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 15:06:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B988FC08 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 15:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p4GF61At022596 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 09:06:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p4GF61gS022593 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 09:06:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 09:06:01 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <10F63344ABE3D90FFAF0BC99@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> Message-ID: References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110515191828.GA3647@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516100038.9940bcfc.freebsd@edvax.de> <10F63344ABE3D90FFAF0BC99@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 16 May 2011 09:06:01 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 15:06:02 -0000 On Mon, 16 May 2011, Daniel Staal wrote: > --As of May 16, 2011 10:00:38 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have said: > >> On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden >> wrote: >>> I wish I could figure >>> out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it. >> >> I would assume that the HAL dependency may be required by >> some deeper-inside Gnome part that is used by Gimp, maybe >> a part of the Gtk+ library... I'm not sure it's trivial to >> find out which one it is. > > --As for the rest, it is mine. > > Sure it is: > > cd /usr/ports/sysutils/hal > make deinstall > > It will list what ports require it. ;) pkg_info -R hal\* will show the same list without actually deinstalling it. But some or most of those don't directly depend on hal, they depend on something else that depends on hal. It would be nice to easily find the root few. xorg-server can be set to not use hal. Then rebuild the keyboard, mouse, and video drivers. One problem with getting rid of hal entirely is libgnomeui, which depends on gvfs, which depends on gnome-mount, which depends on hal. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 15:15:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3992E106566C for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 15:15:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh1.interactivevillages.com (ca.2e.7bae.static.theplanet.com [174.123.46.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34608FC1D for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 15:15:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-24-22-230-24.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([24.22.230.24] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh1.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QLzWC-0006wM-75 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 May 2011 08:15:13 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 16 May 2011 08:15:34 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 08:15:34 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110516151534.GA68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110515191828.GA3647@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516100038.9940bcfc.freebsd@edvax.de> <10F63344ABE3D90FFAF0BC99@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <10F63344ABE3D90FFAF0BC99@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh1.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 15:15:39 -0000 --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Daniel Staal on Monday, 16 May 2011: > --As of May 16, 2011 10:00:38 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have sai= d: >=20 > >On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden > > wrote: > >>I wish I could figure > >>out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it. > > > >I would assume that the HAL dependency may be required by > >some deeper-inside Gnome part that is used by Gimp, maybe > >a part of the Gtk+ library... I'm not sure it's trivial to > >find out which one it is. >=20 > --As for the rest, it is mine. >=20 > Sure it is: >=20 > cd /usr/ports/sysutils/hal > make deinstall >=20 > It will list what ports require it. ;) >=20 > Daniel T. Staal >=20 A less destructive way to get the same info is pkg_info -R hal-0.5.14_13 and 'portversion -v hal' can be used to get the specific version installed. After some more investigation, it appears that gnome-mount is the culprit. I'm looking into how to exclude that from the consumer apps. --=20 =2EO. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com =2E.O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN0T+WAAoJEIpckszW26+Rz20H+wQy5QedquytAebBmHjDyn/w c39VhFF6/xAN78K5wWnyRkuV/AY11eC2+wiYqjolWs9bCM+uzMus6KqgSQ0Md+V2 k0HjugXXwlWC62WZcuJcnVPO4dEXvl4ntPP0Ztu6otvmQnQcpmld74bP1DG3+Kzv EHxPjit5e0u2imp7XVsq+w5PQsSAk/3YzzP7dXInp/F1ge1HYiVCrQw2ESEzJD9W 56TvOEYg0GBqtAzpt+b7OJZn2I7cR4M2HkBLuXHWXzYTx9GORmosaDTCdIBsN2Wt RX11t+F6RBBN0HTG0cPOyMiMxXOXggvcM5pQ98CbeAEd+MLT7aoKspvwIws/P5E= =C3bR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 17:20:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403261065672 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 17:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from april.london.02.net (april.london.02.net [87.194.255.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019B28FC1F for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 17:20:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muji2.config (93.97.24.219) by april.london.02.net (8.5.133) id 4D4A025902CCAF1D for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 May 2011 18:09:00 +0100 Message-ID: <4DD15A2C.2010408@onetel.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 18:09:00 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100924 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: GL811e usb chipset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 17:20:19 -0000 Hi, does anyone know if the GL811e chipset is supported in 8.2R? It's supposed to be common in external usb hard disk and optical disk drives. It's not mentioned in the hardware notes and google didn't turn up much. thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 18:14:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A5E1065672 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 18:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDFD8FC18 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 18:14:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so4526051vws.13 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 11:14:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=36Q93s8W5t7nnr9/pOAjntHAvqJIBN0Y7scaZI9hMg4=; b=LVgmhB052ze7g1tcvPDNo8+hb2G1RFTILY6noVZhL740F8XSkaTBOrUiDepQ6WvtKc EezcvGzyGP2+GuOM5KbqzWn6GapO1yKUjnWuIwtKH/eO9nTIJ7Mg7hiMIheu6ZX9oMtg ayisG17bxPrFYWeNoIPfALQ88XujNwP9Mf06k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=rLt98GFFqPMX4PkNwIpEReB9dRinLM+k7ILj5C+gBURJYHjUY+g/YQUEQiBJQ3yJmE Cx2FyIGwMQODejJoYPYQ8LjmRag4H6eQ2gwPaJ35HHF7at+sWJG9z2SixIb0a9lMqMPg 9P5LzhLAJtnqfKEjTEiYTMsAYIfD0Vt3Y9KUk= Received: by 10.52.172.2 with SMTP id ay2mr1879951vdc.50.1305569663081; Mon, 16 May 2011 11:14:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.110.42 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2011 11:13:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110516100038.9940bcfc.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110515191828.GA3647@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516100038.9940bcfc.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Eitan Adler Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 14:13:52 -0400 Message-ID: To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Chip Camden , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 18:14:24 -0000 On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:00 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden wrote: >> I wish I could figure >> out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it. > > I would assume that the HAL dependency may be required by > some deeper-inside Gnome part that is used by Gimp, maybe > a part of the Gtk+ library... I'm not sure it's trivial to > find out which one it is. Also see ports-mgmt/pkg_tree pkg_tree -v is quite useful. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 18:14:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A30106567D for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 18:14:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh1.interactivevillages.com (ca.2e.7bae.static.theplanet.com [174.123.46.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C8E8FC19 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 18:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-24-22-230-24.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([24.22.230.24] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh1.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QM2Jf-0007ZY-0A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 May 2011 11:14:28 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 16 May 2011 11:14:49 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 11:14:49 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110516181449.GD68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110515191828.GA3647@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516100038.9940bcfc.freebsd@edvax.de> <10F63344ABE3D90FFAF0BC99@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="T7mxYSe680VjQnyC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh1.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 18:14:54 -0000 --T7mxYSe680VjQnyC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Warren Block on Monday, 16 May 2011: > On Mon, 16 May 2011, Daniel Staal wrote: >=20 > >--As of May 16, 2011 10:00:38 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have sa= id: > > > >>On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden > >> wrote: > >>>I wish I could figure > >>>out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it. > >> > >>I would assume that the HAL dependency may be required by > >>some deeper-inside Gnome part that is used by Gimp, maybe > >>a part of the Gtk+ library... I'm not sure it's trivial to > >>find out which one it is. > > > >--As for the rest, it is mine. > > > >Sure it is: > > > >cd /usr/ports/sysutils/hal > >make deinstall > > > >It will list what ports require it. ;) >=20 > pkg_info -R hal\* will show the same list without actually deinstalling= =20 > it. >=20 > But some or most of those don't directly depend on hal, they depend on=20 > something else that depends on hal. It would be nice to easily find the= =20 > root few. xorg-server can be set to not use hal. Then rebuild the=20 > keyboard, mouse, and video drivers. >=20 > One problem with getting rid of hal entirely is libgnomeui, which=20 > depends on gvfs, which depends on gnome-mount, which depends on hal. Yes, that seems to be the sticking point. The only option appears to be doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui. Any Gnome-free alternatives out there? --=20 =2EO. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com =2E.O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com --T7mxYSe680VjQnyC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN0WmZAAoJEIpckszW26+RT44IAKNNhrLEi0DS/FqCu7HCGHm8 r/YJI3OjG/uhlslWqwqZCKSFzqp9IZuuKDKaCg6O3hfmKu+uQ40mk7GZDlBcQQPg 18czQO0S8TeGzF/9iCp0UTfZP66WGdC+r5MbIonlXP7ACbLWEpqXnDKJdLUldeST cY4YNCxDVDdh+1vDEHF5lVeW15PqVi12tQ5EzI+1gtsdBqEMo72YjhDCzmV30hf5 g0pXNVo93wZJv4+rfOLh3HHAMm5rSkgA5zgBayuwISBhIl0QNsrPtDc0XEXNt2OJ IkcD3fmRA1kB5iP+tPoaWs62IA54QbSXtC8TNt5GOyP85pyNUY3nuNfTou9madQ= =dpu7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --T7mxYSe680VjQnyC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 18:34:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11B7106566C for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 18:34:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4D88FC0C for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 18:34:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [0.0.0.0] (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p4GIGoBp099402 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 13:16:50 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4DD16A12.3010209@tundraware.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 13:16:50 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk Organization: TundraWare Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Mon, 16 May 2011 13:16:50 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: p4GIGoBp099402 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Slightly OT: Hardware For FreeNAS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 18:34:54 -0000 Slightly OT, but since it's based on FreeBSD, I thought I'd start here... Can anyone recommend a good hardware platform (components) around which to build a FreeNAS server? The important non-functional requirements are: 1) Quiet to the point of silent. 2) Reliable/redundant TIA, -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 18:39:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820D31065670 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 18:39:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9448FC15 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 18:39:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF4A3CEA9; Mon, 16 May 2011 20:39:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p4GIdokt001911; Mon, 16 May 2011 20:39:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 20:39:50 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chip Camden Message-Id: <20110516203950.da7646b1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110516181449.GD68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110515191828.GA3647@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516100038.9940bcfc.freebsd@edvax.de> <10F63344ABE3D90FFAF0BC99@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> <20110516181449.GD68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 18:39:53 -0000 On Mon, 16 May 2011 11:14:49 -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Warren Block on Monday, 16 May 2011: > > One problem with getting rid of hal entirely is libgnomeui, which > > depends on gvfs, which depends on gnome-mount, which depends on hal. That's what I did assume. > Yes, that seems to be the sticking point. The only option appears to be > doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui. > Any Gnome-free alternatives out there? Let's see: Gimp -> Krita (KDE) or InkScape? Gnumeric -> KOffice (if you're already on KDE), OpenOffice, LibreOffice, StarOffice (or add any other possible *Office to the mix). And dia... I have to admit that I don't know what this is. :-) Maybe, just MAYBE, the gnome-mount dependency can be installed without requiring HAL. I don't know much about the details, but HAL has been said to be the means for automounting local media, and maybe is in conjuction with Samba. If you can disable such functionality via "make config" for the gnome-mount port, MAYBE there is a chance to avoid HAL in this specific case. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 19:15:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C926106566B for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 19:15:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC93C8FC16 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 19:15:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p4GJFZ9J023655; Mon, 16 May 2011 13:15:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p4GJFZ8T023652; Mon, 16 May 2011 13:15:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 13:15:35 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20110516203950.da7646b1.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110515191828.GA3647@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516100038.9940bcfc.freebsd@edvax.de> <10F63344ABE3D90FFAF0BC99@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> <20110516181449.GD68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516203950.da7646b1.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 16 May 2011 13:15:35 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Chip Camden , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 19:15:43 -0000 On Mon, 16 May 2011, Polytropon wrote: > Maybe, just MAYBE, the gnome-mount dependency can be installed > without requiring HAL. I don't know much about the details, but > HAL has been said to be the means for automounting local media, > and maybe is in conjuction with Samba. If you can disable such > functionality via "make config" for the gnome-mount port, MAYBE > there is a chance to avoid HAL in this specific case. gnome-mount is specifically for hal. OTOH, the Linux guys have been working on removing hal, and gvfs has a promising --disable-hal option I'm testing now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 19:22:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4972E106570C for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 19:22:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067858FC1E for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 19:22:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb15 with SMTP id 15so2036656gwb.13 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 12:22:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2T45FQcQP3vIg8s5USO/cYWNYmgdoEcSC+g0gCB9ZfY=; b=CvPyI/WeNMopESH6IoYfus7GrxCg5hjxe/XWoG66Qm90N+aOmcVG4CwwC7wXLGsHQt FQwYiUJu6iqxRPSC2pn53t75w2o8uq05Fd/4hU2sCWokDGGSMOz9aPfbsBDYF+QHC673 mkJRdQ04crrK6V3qBZ1w27z37q7dsxLfeFMGI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tnh8gzPFWK9yFeZvxz4A+frOuIB8DWuvjF46bEhu8wBEtOVCy6rAzaOSDkVMIbjYrp kmp2+BsWD8opQ0ya5gkph/MgWuAXfXSxLPTmVTiEIJfTLUL0sfjzwqsqyUDO42DS/b+c sU1FeY99Fzahs4gXV6cGSj4RqUlX3GDB0tyMg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.183.2 with SMTP id k2mr2823813anp.7.1305573766063; Mon, 16 May 2011 12:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.48.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2011 12:22:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 15:22:46 -0400 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: adding new disk >2TB, gpt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 19:22:47 -0000 On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:27 AM, n dhert wrote: > I have a running FreeBSD-8.2-amd system, > FreeBSD was installed in jan 2009 (then FreeBSD 7.0), which a fisk disk o= f > 200 GB > for /, swap /usr /var /tmp. > Later that month, I added a 9 TB disk using /sbin/gpt > (since sysinstall uses bsdlabel/fdisk, it can't create disks larger than = 2 > TB) > > I want to add an extra >2TB disk... and thought to use gpt again as I did= in > the past .. > > The FreeBSD book (in its 2011 version), section 18.3 still refers to usin= g > gpt for disks >2TB > but the link gpt(8) leads to nowhere and /sbin/gpt no longer exists in > FreeBSD ! > > There seem to be two alternatives: > 1) /sbin/gpart, of which the man page is quite similar to what gpt used t= o > be, but tells me > it is ''for disk partitoning GEOM class", > whereas gpt man pages (in 2009) said: gpt - "GUID partition table > maintenance utility". > > 2) a port sysutils/gdisk of which the Long Description says: > =A0"Edit GUID partition table (GPT) definitions in Linux, FreeBSD, MacOS = X or > Windows" > but its web site shows a completely different command line interface, not > resembling the old gpt at all.. > > What is exactly that difference between GEOM and GUID ? > I'd like to have things as similar as possible .. > Can I use /sbin/gpart for the extra 9 GB disk ? or do I have to stick wit= h > GUID and use gdisk ? gpart create -s gpt ad0 is the command you want to use. Just replace ad0 with your device node. Also, "gpart show" will give a list of slices and partitions. You will then want to do: gpart add -s -t ad0 The size and type syntax are in the gpart man page. If you want it bootable you will need a small partition at the beginning of the disk: gpart add -s 128k -t freebsd-boot ad0 gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ad0 You may adjust the size to shrink it to exactly fit the files, but I think if you're working in TBs you can spare a few wasted k. I submitted a PR to get the handbook updated to reflect gpart(8). Cheers, Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 21:23:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3939F106564A for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 21:23:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F1EB88FC13 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 21:23:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14564 invoked by uid 0); 16 May 2011 21:23:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 16 May 2011 21:23:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=druGxMIBhCPPncYunw5TrlzcE6B1VDpZDrJvoNJYuffstRhwD9qH23HPd1jmV6HITgPHnBkh4YtNbU6V4INwO1399Mp8BPD2UoZmmqn+GOskpXPZ9yVvNCVHkqFNXorE; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QM5GA-0000Oc-Cx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 May 2011 15:23:27 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 16 May 2011 15:09:35 -0600 Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 15:09:35 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110516210935.GA91689@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110515191828.GA3647@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516100038.9940bcfc.freebsd@edvax.de> <10F63344ABE3D90FFAF0BC99@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> <20110516181449.GD68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110516181449.GD68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 21:23:29 -0000 --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:14:49AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: >=20 > Yes, that seems to be the sticking point. The only option appears to be > doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui. > Any Gnome-free alternatives out there? I don't use anything like gnumeric or dia, generally, but an alternative to GIMP is Cinepaint. I don't *think* it requires libgnomeui. It has some, err, "quirks", but they're trade-offs rather than pure negatives, because Cinepaint does a number of things better than the GIMP. Among the things it does better are start and operate quickly; where the GIMP often takes an interminably long time to do simple things (like open an image), Cinepaint is pretty snappy by comparison. The interface is occasionally a bit glitchy, though. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk3Rko8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWX/wCdH55H7WWmDKZ68JHbwK6tFaoA OzoAn0o48TPFpbsCQ/KzknMPTHE5RxTt =i92f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 21:36:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE137106566B for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 21:36:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh1.interactivevillages.com (ca.2e.7bae.static.theplanet.com [174.123.46.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07228FC16 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 21:36:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-24-22-230-24.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([24.22.230.24] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh1.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QM5Sk-0005aZ-38 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 May 2011 14:36:03 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 16 May 2011 14:36:25 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 14:36:25 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110516213624.GG68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110515191828.GA3647@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516100038.9940bcfc.freebsd@edvax.de> <10F63344ABE3D90FFAF0BC99@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> <20110516181449.GD68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516210935.GA91689@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Fnm8lRGFTVS/3GuM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110516210935.GA91689@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh1.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 21:36:30 -0000 --Fnm8lRGFTVS/3GuM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Chad Perrin on Monday, 16 May 2011: > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:14:49AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > >=20 > > Yes, that seems to be the sticking point. The only option appears to be > > doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui. > > Any Gnome-free alternatives out there? >=20 > I don't use anything like gnumeric or dia, generally, but an alternative > to GIMP is Cinepaint. I don't *think* it requires libgnomeui. It has > some, err, "quirks", but they're trade-offs rather than pure negatives, > because Cinepaint does a number of things better than the GIMP. Among > the things it does better are start and operate quickly; where the GIMP > often takes an interminably long time to do simple things (like open an > image), Cinepaint is pretty snappy by comparison. The interface is > occasionally a bit glitchy, though. >=20 > --=20 > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Thanks, I'll take a look at it! --=20 =2EO. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com =2E.O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com --Fnm8lRGFTVS/3GuM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN0ZjYAAoJEIpckszW26+Rwl0H/AhaVQVEZiiANIigCIa+dMs5 THKoyCjA8vLw9v2TaqZJTeJLO004bqInmTx2BAaImxEPVpUzQ5wXPRUOmUn2e0Zu vYP7vvjIPy1+XsasrFZK5lnvvMe8F+hfjgF9SeYh+E20gSW7SE3XK4/javCWg77y 0qdE4huXAuHEtT0ZDsuPwwGG/Cm1NHNSPsk39yk9nGvJ9SlKjX6O4uP4B4+dE9dS fB3IRKl2P2vxCUUUKnkvKysSSUjt/chU5sEdQsyUZTRprzPt2kHdEC4gUo/8y5bj GuRVwZqh3kyyAsRdofgqPZUdKi44Z49rI+kdsMIXEB1g56CsnJuej9y5tT8s+2s= =XIDp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Fnm8lRGFTVS/3GuM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 00:13:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534111065676 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 00:13:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh1.interactivevillages.com (ca.2e.7bae.static.theplanet.com [174.123.46.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1732B8FC1A for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 00:13:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-24-22-230-24.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([24.22.230.24] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh1.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QM7v3-0007Ic-9b for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 May 2011 17:13:26 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 16 May 2011 17:13:48 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 17:13:48 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110517001348.GI68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110515191828.GA3647@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516100038.9940bcfc.freebsd@edvax.de> <10F63344ABE3D90FFAF0BC99@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> <20110516181449.GD68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516210935.GA91689@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y96v7rNg6HAoELs5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110516210935.GA91689@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh1.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 00:13:53 -0000 --y96v7rNg6HAoELs5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Chad Perrin on Monday, 16 May 2011: > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:14:49AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > >=20 > > Yes, that seems to be the sticking point. The only option appears to be > > doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui. > > Any Gnome-free alternatives out there? >=20 > I don't use anything like gnumeric or dia, generally, but an alternative > to GIMP is Cinepaint. I don't *think* it requires libgnomeui. It has > some, err, "quirks", but they're trade-offs rather than pure negatives, > because Cinepaint does a number of things better than the GIMP. Among > the things it does better are start and operate quickly; where the GIMP > often takes an interminably long time to do simple things (like open an > image), Cinepaint is pretty snappy by comparison. The interface is > occasionally a bit glitchy, though. >=20 > --=20 > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Looks like cinepaint doesn't have any GNOME dependencies, and also no HAL dependency. Now if I can just learn how to do everything I know how to do in GIMP, I'll be set for that piece. I don't use dia very often (it's for diagrams). Gnumeric I use more frequently (for spreadsheets). I hate having to start up that monolithic libreoffice just to do a spreadsheet, but that would be a HAL-free alternat= ive. Thanks to everyone who has responded so far. --=20 =2EO. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com =2E.O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com --y96v7rNg6HAoELs5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN0b28AAoJEIpckszW26+RM2AIAKfZ1ky4+/THVghJhgiZrwTf hPRNbcfhl46n9/wmzkXY80djNT2vXEnVhOzM8pdEAq/ZdIGEntuxSA82LsN6tsV+ VrZ1jyD9a5p0tIhHGKTaI7m9m9EJ+YXFnPq7iiDIIwbJyy4td1JznNGBccQnow8R VCKuhF8/jVRlHagTWYz1m+/e5/WEcNynty53ImAgjr0hfHxbNRUyb58e7apJuGxu SP9WRB4XI9mUPc7jb9LLJUpm6SAtCn4UWJ7kttm0WdSraLDuXo7aCPoKGhOyHUR8 Tsn8yd4RRq+c3DeGb5DMSgm5zQ89damWgls38uyQFAG3cndsM0u2sA76nf6E+vs= =OII6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y96v7rNg6HAoELs5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 00:38:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E374106566C for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 00:38:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linuxtux37@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f176.google.com (mail-px0-f176.google.com [209.85.212.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638E18FC0C for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 00:38:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi11 with SMTP id 11so8391pxi.7 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 17:38:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id :date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=/6yYpLl2iuRcrolj5YorQXit2y3Vp19WO4RgZZZd+6E=; b=Ia+JIFI0JHLCZJjPbx4+wR3zR10PtohJTaVCvDJny4vwlTdZ+Wyx8kSyziDngi545r NfGe4NITeCBgN12KoORf88Qq5a02Gv/lutab4ohVs8371vnzJMmhdMiT871kyLquTYIZ MJOqb5vRvYEGm9qEBolI6s3EPEk7rqnBxVBdA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=cCeBVDZsYi5nI0t+ff7k5ENuaHpgbU6qMgRwNTlDA/GsyQRUh8/7+/8iUPo82p5rIZ 13wqS0e6dLC2XrPNW05PEL07JI0ME+RgdvIPXiUqcsSHGTVfFh5cKDZiodZaOQQ4mmGV hXJ9I/odRybIryPWlJM2nE9cjUTQWTSHTtEb8= Received: by 10.68.1.132 with SMTP id 4mr61836pbm.240.1305592718780; Mon, 16 May 2011 17:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.3] (pool-98-119-28-201.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [98.119.28.201]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x4sm4135pbr.71.2011.05.16.17.38.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 16 May 2011 17:38:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Alexander Lardner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8J2) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 17:38:21 -0700 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8J2) Subject: Input file for shutdown warning? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 00:38:39 -0000 Hello, Is it possible to do something like this: shutdown -p now /root/somefile How would I do that, or is it even possible? Thanks, Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 01:16:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F43106564A for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 01:16:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F528FC1D for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 01:16:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so22790wwc.31 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 18:16:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ie5KCQKSAlLQ8ndeTlGSEIYP5q5DlPq+vm1DKy+q2lQ=; b=qsANvr55KbPzb8c0xsZY9ziylM+UBIZXbgvCVU2dqQGaBbKhSwkFh3bNnjDyGKJgHv TwiuiQ5DxTO56O8Cu7cf8TZQ5rsWLIce15KmaQXnr67ZZfjz1RAEYTXJwt4dx1DWXNv9 DKaI8kbbS4QkgVlCO708OPEtg32PfMZnN/b7s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cYuZzLTv89czeGvRPYD8iil2seKbqSjscUtPGC9jt6GCC2Ta7zn4RshT30wHbnbmxN O4mmYurtRP9owZtB9c9veO7WHkPMZmJxxN0Sk/zcLIPa7T8ZJfd8vS+Iyk1+ctOd+pMR XoN4ACntkjAswo44jvPN5oO3KTc/mE01P0Xd0= Received: by 10.227.201.13 with SMTP id ey13mr43280wbb.57.1305594996880; Mon, 16 May 2011 18:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t8sm13279wbz.67.2011.05.16.18.16.35 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 16 May 2011 18:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 02:16:33 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110517021633.26b47751@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Input file for shutdown warning? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 01:16:38 -0000 On Mon, 16 May 2011 17:38:21 -0700 Alexander Lardner wrote: > Hello, > Is it possible to do something like this: > > shutdown -p now /root/somefile > > How would I do that, or is it even possible? According to the man page it is. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 01:31:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A5E1065670 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 01:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED888FC1F for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 01:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so32878wyf.13 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 18:31:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9U/Yk2Mm2juObFuFQUlkJKSLSJTG2ezwicdG5spSZXw=; b=w7itXjmPK1p8mhR9OBwTu4ZH1qTbeTX8EQNI4zNi68IwvirCE0qqzpHCe/BE/EvRR+ ne93ZBmHpDtHZJ1T1yg79RUDq/gvD4Weh69uogt/U1di1/wdBosc19+A8392g2mmCAkk WVlKjdbg0h+hckbOwNoA+0b00dTGi7R0P3Qa4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Af8NpERFZsCRUfUSK5s3Ar6AeQB1XDfeLkOW6gtRoFK53pQeYbjsHcyQFMxYPuiqAW sVMLEW2Vw72eMcoGG45YgR2u/pxFRRQeD2wmzBfmgAt+RsyoSz3PgGdb2X9+koryEvzR qife0ug/dgLbfu2fwvXqdCggTf7Ox5cAd0fx8= Received: by 10.227.58.207 with SMTP id i15mr39898wbh.103.1305595877409; Mon, 16 May 2011 18:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w25sm18096wbd.56.2011.05.16.18.31.15 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 16 May 2011 18:31:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 02:31:13 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110517023113.25ba03b5@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20110517012456.41965.qmail@joyce.lan> References: <20110517021633.26b47751@gumby.homeunix.com> <20110517012456.41965.qmail@joyce.lan> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Input file for shutdown warning? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 01:31:19 -0000 On 17 May 2011 01:24:56 -0000 "John Levine" wrote: > In article <20110517021633.26b47751@gumby.homeunix.com> you write: > >On Mon, 16 May 2011 17:38:21 -0700 > >Alexander Lardner wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> Is it possible to do something like this: > >> > >> shutdown -p now /root/somefile > > # shutdown - -p now < /root/somefile > shutdown -p now - < /root/somefile From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 01:52:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE511065670 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=0111c51316=johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [64.57.183.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE0B8FC16 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 94707 invoked from network); 17 May 2011 01:25:18 -0000 Received: from mail1.iecc.com (64.57.183.56) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 17 May 2011 01:25:18 -0000 Date: 17 May 2011 01:24:56 -0000 Message-ID: <20110517012456.41965.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20110517021633.26b47751@gumby.homeunix.com> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: rwmaillists@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Input file for shutdown warning? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 01:52:00 -0000 In article <20110517021633.26b47751@gumby.homeunix.com> you write: >On Mon, 16 May 2011 17:38:21 -0700 >Alexander Lardner wrote: > >> Hello, >> Is it possible to do something like this: >> >> shutdown -p now /root/somefile # shutdown - -p now < /root/somefile If you had read the man page, you would already know that. R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 02:02:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EAE5106566B for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 02:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8C28FC13 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 02:02:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p4H22WqR024816; Mon, 16 May 2011 20:02:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p4H22WKA024813; Mon, 16 May 2011 20:02:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 20:02:32 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Chip Camden In-Reply-To: <20110517001348.GI68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Message-ID: References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110515191828.GA3647@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516100038.9940bcfc.freebsd@edvax.de> <10F63344ABE3D90FFAF0BC99@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> <20110516181449.GD68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516210935.GA91689@guilt.hydra> <20110517001348.GI68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 16 May 2011 20:02:32 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 02:02:35 -0000 On Mon, 16 May 2011, Chip Camden wrote: > Looks like cinepaint doesn't have any GNOME dependencies, and also no HAL > dependency. Now if I can just learn how to do everything I know how to > do in GIMP, I'll be set for that piece. > > I don't use dia very often (it's for diagrams). Gnumeric I use more > frequently (for spreadsheets). I hate having to start up that monolithic > libreoffice just to do a spreadsheet, but that would be a HAL-free alternative. I just submitted ports/157096 with a patch to build gvfs without HAL support: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=157096 Very lightly tested, but no problems so far. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 07:41:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6533E106566C for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 07:41:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 283748FC14 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 07:41:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7102 invoked by uid 0); 17 May 2011 07:41:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 17 May 2011 07:41:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=JSpyzHfft0aK15F/lLzQ1Ns86IC7ifiTaOrPWKI7KWzfBpX+x1Q5L227uLzgCIkeEInQeKuG1MmrM5jh5hClms7u7e1zWuyNDowt/j6CI7f/1KwtLR6WrjqwAfnzxlRC; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QMEuT-000416-RX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 May 2011 01:41:43 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 17 May 2011 01:27:50 -0600 Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 01:27:50 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110517072750.GA93125@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110515191828.GA3647@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516100038.9940bcfc.freebsd@edvax.de> <10F63344ABE3D90FFAF0BC99@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> <20110516181449.GD68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516210935.GA91689@guilt.hydra> <20110517001348.GI68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110517001348.GI68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 07:41:44 -0000 --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 05:13:48PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: >=20 > Gnumeric I use more frequently (for spreadsheets). I hate having to > start up that monolithic libreoffice just to do a spreadsheet, but that > would be a HAL-free alternative. When I'm creating something from scratch that some people would consider an ideal task for a spreadsheet, I tend to just start practicing my complex data structure skills in Ruby. I guess I'm weird, but I loathe spreadsheets in general. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk3SI3YACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVrdACfc0LmqUdr+wp19abXSoJua9do PIMAn2JXU7+vPBlkaok7i1Op7q2L3Wxx =ANjl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 07:54:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF45106564A; Tue, 17 May 2011 07:54:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itetcu@FreeBSD.org) Received: from worf.ds9.tecnik93.com (worf.ds9.tecnik93.com [81.196.207.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CC0D8FC1A; Tue, 17 May 2011 07:54:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User-PC (unknown [81.181.146.246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by worf.ds9.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D199122C5547; Tue, 17 May 2011 10:38:59 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 10:38:58 +0300 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20110517103858.9cccf61a.itetcu@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Skype with sound and video support :) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 07:54:19 -0000 Hi, As you may have noticed skype ports were updated a few days ago. All skype ports were moved to net-im/: - skype12: unchanged, very old version (for FreeBSD 6) - skype20: last version with OSS support, that used to live in net/skype; the DISTFILE is gone from the vendor but if you happen to have it it would be a way of having sound w/o a need to upgrade your base OS - [RECOMANDED] skype: currently at 2.1.0.81 and the best supported - skype-devel: currently at 2.2.0.25, sounds is OK, video doesn't work In order to run either skype or skype-devel with fully working sound you need: - to run fc10 (most probably, please report what you can run with fc4): (OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f10,OVERRIDE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS=f10 in /etc/make.conf for systems that doesn't have it as default) - In order for Skype to work OK, you need your kernel and modules to be: - post 2011-05-03 in on HEAD - post 2011-05-08 in on 7,8-STABLE The port tries to catch if your system version is too old, but there's a ~3months window where because of a lack of OSVERSION bump, this is not possible. So please check; and PLEAE READ THE PKG_MESSAGE for setup details. For how to update your kernel/world, see: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html IF YOUR OSVERSION IS NOT NEW ENOUGH, SOUND (ESPECIALLY MIC) WON'T WORK. If you run into problems, at very least we need to know the output of: $ uname -a; sysctl compat.linux | head -2; grep OVERRIDE_LINUX_ /etc/make.conf; cat /compat/linux/etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf the skype version you are using, and hardware details (eg. webcam) if related. I most probably will ignore any mail not containing this info since without it it's impossible to help. Please test your sound /video setup outside skype before blaming skype / mailing me. -- Ion-Mihai Tetcu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 08:11:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1771065674 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 08:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3758FC14 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 08:11:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033071E431; Tue, 17 May 2011 10:11:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p4H8Bf4u001539; Tue, 17 May 2011 10:11:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 10:11:41 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chip Camden Message-Id: <20110517101141.b46f5547.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110517001348.GI68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110515191828.GA3647@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516100038.9940bcfc.freebsd@edvax.de> <10F63344ABE3D90FFAF0BC99@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> <20110516181449.GD68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516210935.GA91689@guilt.hydra> <20110517001348.GI68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 08:11:44 -0000 On Mon, 16 May 2011 17:13:48 -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > I don't use dia very often (it's for diagrams). So maybe gnuplot is an alternative (if we have the same kind of diagrams in mind)? > Gnumeric I use more > frequently (for spreadsheets). I hate having to start up that monolithic > libreoffice just to do a spreadsheet, but that would be a HAL-free alternative. Use openoffice.org-3.0.0-scalc - it's not monolithic, it's a simple single program! :-) I'm not sure in how far the KDE office applications are monolithic or not, maybe if you already have KDE-based programs on your system (or even use KDE as a desktop environment), a look at them may be useful. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 08:17:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7D41065670 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 08:17:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95FFD8FC16 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 08:17:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8491E295; Tue, 17 May 2011 10:17:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p4H8HdBJ001546; Tue, 17 May 2011 10:17:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 10:17:39 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chad Perrin Message-Id: <20110517101739.946fd32c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110517072750.GA93125@guilt.hydra> References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110515191828.GA3647@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516100038.9940bcfc.freebsd@edvax.de> <10F63344ABE3D90FFAF0BC99@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> <20110516181449.GD68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516210935.GA91689@guilt.hydra> <20110517001348.GI68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110517072750.GA93125@guilt.hydra> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 08:17:41 -0000 On Tue, 17 May 2011 01:27:50 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 05:13:48PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > > > > Gnumeric I use more frequently (for spreadsheets). I hate having to > > start up that monolithic libreoffice just to do a spreadsheet, but that > > would be a HAL-free alternative. > > When I'm creating something from scratch that some people would consider > an ideal task for a spreadsheet, I tend to just start practicing my > complex data structure skills in Ruby. I guess I'm weird, but I loathe > spreadsheets in general. I've done something similarly insane for a documentation project: Here, the main document was made in LaTeX, and there were CSV (comma seperated values) files with numerical data and text. Those were then processed by awk scripts that did the "calculation part"; their result were LaTeX includes that were then sourced by \input. Another file was made with definitions of macros that hold intermediate or result values for use inside the text. Additionally, output was given in gnuplot form and then processed by that utility, the result was eps or png graphics also for inclusion in the document. The whole play was controlled by a quite simple Makefile that caused a "make" call to process the files that had changed. Just imagine: Change a value in a table, run "make", and have all the results (tables, figures, mentionings in text) change automatically. The result was a PDF file for sending and for printing. Of course, it is totally insane to do so. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 13:19:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338981065670 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 13:19:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2878FC18 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 13:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so555217iyj.13 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 06:19:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ywVsMnstRHF/ELO/f7axM4vF9+/0VAdMJ+G3PKX0O1g=; b=gYcq5J4U9JHJlG9NYlyAC//GTSH5VVyfefExmqKMOPI/ck/bGWsJ5DfB41udK8p64K hLpcuK9gBGBSL7WaXfEbRTMnzUz6DpFpUXyIz9kdz5M0A9XdaFdKpGEC+NQMwr4i/ls0 GDfyuxEyI3ZFxzw3UCmGdEHJ7Xjz7mJ4KHmsY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=kHjd211SzCDM0hnUUTrNf1umAVNT4xw7VzaI+KfEs1PUGKMy9PACu/sirKy8c48Z/G I5RS2zRhTjZPO/w0tJR/kwcGqVDq/nRllenH7cgi3sA/i9Ud/BMIHOTEcz7AoZH4NO9A MaysjG4I+vQYLNQk1a3PwBVfz84OuJ5Lt6zFY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.63.81 with SMTP id a17mr437287ibi.66.1305638380166; Tue, 17 May 2011 06:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.208.79 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2011 06:19:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 15:19:40 +0200 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: rsimmons0@gmail.com Subject: Re: adding new disk >2TB, gpt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 13:19:41 -0000 Thanks for your answer! I am trying out gpart. On an old PC with 38 GB disk, I have triple boot Windows, OpenSuSE and FreeBSD-8.2. I created an unalloated space of 973 MB at the end. To see the actuel disk geometry, I used FreeBSDs sysinstall # sysinstall Disk name: ad0 FDISK Partition Editor DISK Geometry: 79780 cyls/16 heads/63 sectors = 80418240 sectors (39266MB) Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype Flags 0 63 62 - 12 unused 0 63 22233897 22233959 ad0s1 4 NTFS/HPFS/QNX 7 22233960 29639736 51873695 ad0s3 8 freebsd 165 51873696 189 51873884 - 12 unused 0 51873885 26539380 78413264 ad0s2 4 extended DOS, LBA 15 78413265 1992060 80405324 ad0s4 4 ext2fs 131 80405325 12915 80418239 - 12 unused 0 ad0s1 is my Windows, ad0s2 is the extended partition where SuSE resides (swap and / partition) ad0s3 is my FreeBSD-8.2 (with sections a, e, f, d for /, /tmp, /usr, /var) and ad0s4 is the new freed space of 1992060 sectors = 973 MB I tried # gpart create -s gpt ad0s4 gpart: provider: Device not configured ( gpart create -s gtp /dev/ad0s4 : same error) # gpart show => 63 80418177 ad0 MBR (38G) 63 22233897 1 ntfs (11G) 22233960 29639736 3 freebsd [active] (14G) 51873696 189 - free - (95K) 51873885 26539380 2 !15 (13G) 78413265 1992060 4 !131 (973M) 80405325 12915 - free - (6.3M) => 0 26539380 ad0s2 EBR (13G) 0 2072385 1 !130 (1.0G) 2072385 18249840 32896 !131 (8.7G) 20322225 6152895 322576 !131 (2.9G) 26475120 64260 - free - (31M) => 0 29639736 ad0s3 BSD (14G) 0 1048576 1 freebsd-ufs (512M) 1048576 1994384 2 freebsd-swap (974M) 3042960 3092480 4 freebsd-ufs (1.5G) 6135440 1048576 5 freebsd-ufs (512M) 7184016 22455720 6 freebsd-ufs (11G) # gpart create -s gpt ad4 gpart: provider 'ad4': Invalid argument how do I address the 974 MB partition ??? 2011/5/16 Robert Simmons > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:27 AM, n dhert wrote: > > I have a running FreeBSD-8.2-amd system, > > FreeBSD was installed in jan 2009 (then FreeBSD 7.0), which a fisk disk > of > > 200 GB > > for /, swap /usr /var /tmp. > > Later that month, I added a 9 TB disk using /sbin/gpt > > (since sysinstall uses bsdlabel/fdisk, it can't create disks larger than > 2 > > TB) > > > > I want to add an extra >2TB disk... and thought to use gpt again as I did > in > > the past .. > > > > The FreeBSD book (in its 2011 version), section 18.3 still refers to > using > > gpt for disks >2TB > > but the link gpt(8) leads to nowhere and /sbin/gpt no longer exists in > > FreeBSD ! > > > > There seem to be two alternatives: > > 1) /sbin/gpart, of which the man page is quite similar to what gpt used > to > > be, but tells me > > it is ''for disk partitoning GEOM class", > > whereas gpt man pages (in 2009) said: gpt - "GUID partition table > > maintenance utility". > > > > 2) a port sysutils/gdisk of which the Long Description says: > > "Edit GUID partition table (GPT) definitions in Linux, FreeBSD, MacOS X > or > > Windows" > > but its web site shows a completely different command line interface, not > > resembling the old gpt at all.. > > > > What is exactly that difference between GEOM and GUID ? > > I'd like to have things as similar as possible .. > > Can I use /sbin/gpart for the extra 9 GB disk ? or do I have to stick > with > > GUID and use gdisk ? > > gpart create -s gpt ad0 > is the command you want to use. Just replace ad0 with your device > node. Also, "gpart show" will give a list of slices and partitions. > You will then want to do: > gpart add -s -t ad0 > The size and type syntax are in the gpart man page. > If you want it bootable you will need a small partition at the > beginning of the disk: > gpart add -s 128k -t freebsd-boot ad0 > gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ad0 > > You may adjust the size to shrink it to exactly fit the files, but I > think if you're working in TBs you can spare a few wasted k. > > I submitted a PR to get the handbook updated to reflect gpart(8). > > Cheers, > Rob > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 13:29:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E919D106564A for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 13:29:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2BFB8FC0A for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 13:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from corellia.vindaloo.com (ool-182c0165.dyn.optonline.net [24.44.1.101]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0LLC00HU6C2OC9W0@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 May 2011 08:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hadar.vindaloo.com (hadar.vindaloo.com [172.24.145.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by corellia.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7AA2128460 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 08:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Resent-date: Tue, 17 May 2011 08:59:11 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 08:32:01 -0400 Resent-from: Christopher Hilton From: Christopher Hilton In-reply-to: Resent-to: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org To: Alano Conraz Resent-message-id: <0LLC00HU7C2OC9W0@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <4DC42368.3040902@exonetric.com> Cc: Subject: Re: how to use cfs (cryptographic file system) ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 13:29:15 -0000 No problem: I looked up my solution to the problem because I submitted a patch to fix things. It's here (ports pr #155788): http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/155788 After this you should be able to create an encrypted filesystem with cmkdir and attach it with cattach and detach it with cdetach. -- Chris On May 17, 2011, at 6:53 AM, Alano Conraz wrote: > I tried this and it seems to work. > Thank you very much for your help! > > Have a good day. > > While still being useful cfsd is old and doesn't conform to the latest practices in nfs servers. In particular, it doesn't: use tcp, use IPv6, or do nfs v3 or later. > > I changed the line in the .../rc.d/cfsd script that came with the port to the following: > > mount -o port="$cfsd_port",nfsv2,udp 127.0.0.1:${cfsd_bootstrap} "$cfsd_mountpoint" > > I changed the mount to use udp and nfsv2. I also coded the localhost address rather than the name. Finally, I made the bootstrap and the mountpoint controllable via configuration variables. I'm pretty sure that I sent these modifications to the cfs port maintainer as a patch to the port. I also probably included a KEYWORD: shutdown in the port to get by an annoying warning and the second startup. > > -- Chris Hilton > > > Chris Hilton e: chris|at|vindaloo|dot|com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "The pattern juggler lifts his hand; The orchestra begin. > As slowly turns the grinding wheel in the court of the crimson king." > -- Ian McDonald / Peter Sinfield > > > > Chris Hilton tildeChris -- http://myblog.vindaloo.com e: -- chris /at/ vindaloo /dot/ com .~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~. "I'm on the outside looking inside, What do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me." -- Ian McDonald / Peter Sinfield From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 13:40:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B7DB106564A for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 13:40:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milu@dat.pl) Received: from jab.dat.pl (dat.pl [80.51.155.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BCE8FC0A for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 13:40:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jab.dat.pl (jsrv.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 801E5CA; Tue, 17 May 2011 15:40:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dat.pl Received: from jab.dat.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (jab.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Eym2i9iRQhIn; Tue, 17 May 2011 15:39:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from snifi.localnet (unknown [212.69.68.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 98DA5AF; Tue, 17 May 2011 15:39:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Maciej Milewski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 15:40:36 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/2.6.38-ARCH; KDE/4.6.3; x86_64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201105171540.36757.milu@dat.pl> Cc: n dhert Subject: Re: adding new disk >2TB, gpt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 13:40:02 -0000 On Tuesday 17 of May 2011 15:19:40, n dhert wrote: > Thanks for your answer! > I am trying out gpart. > On an old PC with 38 GB disk, I have triple boot Windows, OpenSuSE and > FreeBSD-8.2. > I created an unalloated space of 973 MB at the end. > To see the actuel disk geometry, I used FreeBSDs sysinstall > # sysinstall > Disk name: ad0 FDISK Partition > Editor > DISK Geometry: 79780 cyls/16 heads/63 sectors = 80418240 sectors (39266MB) > Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype > Flags > 0 63 62 - 12 unused 0 > 63 22233897 22233959 ad0s1 4 NTFS/HPFS/QNX 7 > 22233960 29639736 51873695 ad0s3 8 freebsd 165 > 51873696 189 51873884 - 12 unused 0 > 51873885 26539380 78413264 ad0s2 4 extended DOS, LBA 15 > 78413265 1992060 80405324 ad0s4 4 ext2fs 131 > 80405325 12915 80418239 - 12 unused 0 > > ad0s1 is my Windows, > ad0s2 is the extended partition where SuSE resides (swap and / partition) > ad0s3 is my FreeBSD-8.2 (with sections a, e, f, d for /, /tmp, /usr, /var) > and ad0s4 is the new freed space of 1992060 sectors = 973 MB > > I tried > # gpart create -s gpt ad0s4 > gpart: provider: Device not configured > ( gpart create -s gtp /dev/ad0s4 : same error) > > # gpart show > => 63 80418177 ad0 MBR (38G) > 63 22233897 1 ntfs (11G) > 22233960 29639736 3 freebsd [active] (14G) > 51873696 189 - free - (95K) > 51873885 26539380 2 !15 (13G) > 78413265 1992060 4 !131 (973M) > 80405325 12915 - free - (6.3M) > > => 0 26539380 ad0s2 EBR (13G) > 0 2072385 1 !130 (1.0G) > 2072385 18249840 32896 !131 (8.7G) > 20322225 6152895 322576 !131 (2.9G) > 26475120 64260 - free - (31M) > > => 0 29639736 ad0s3 BSD (14G) > 0 1048576 1 freebsd-ufs (512M) > 1048576 1994384 2 freebsd-swap (974M) > 3042960 3092480 4 freebsd-ufs (1.5G) > 6135440 1048576 5 freebsd-ufs (512M) > 7184016 22455720 6 freebsd-ufs (11G) > # gpart create -s gpt ad4 > gpart: provider 'ad4': Invalid argument > > how do I address the 974 MB partition ??? You can't create gpt table on top of existing MBR table. If you want to use gpt you need to have clean hard drive for that(removed all partitions and destroy current table) If you just want to add ad0s4 you should do gpart add ... Maciej From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 14:59:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333EB1065673 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 14:59:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh1.interactivevillages.com (ca.2e.7bae.static.theplanet.com [174.123.46.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94FE8FC18 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 14:59:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-24-22-230-24.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([24.22.230.24] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh1.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QMLjx-0004n6-MD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 May 2011 07:58:54 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 17 May 2011 07:59:16 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 07:59:16 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110517145916.GA44847@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110515191828.GA3647@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516100038.9940bcfc.freebsd@edvax.de> <10F63344ABE3D90FFAF0BC99@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> <20110516181449.GD68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516210935.GA91689@guilt.hydra> <20110517001348.GI68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UugvWAfsgieZRqgk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh1.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 14:59:21 -0000 --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Warren Block on Monday, 16 May 2011: > On Mon, 16 May 2011, Chip Camden wrote: >=20 > >Looks like cinepaint doesn't have any GNOME dependencies, and also no HAL > >dependency. Now if I can just learn how to do everything I know how to > >do in GIMP, I'll be set for that piece. > > > >I don't use dia very often (it's for diagrams). Gnumeric I use more > >frequently (for spreadsheets). I hate having to start up that monolithic > >libreoffice just to do a spreadsheet, but that would be a HAL-free=20 > >alternative. >=20 > I just submitted ports/157096 with a patch to build gvfs without HAL=20 > support: >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D157096 >=20 > Very lightly tested, but no problems so far. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" Awesome! I'll test it out. --=20 =2EO. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com =2E.O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN0o1EAAoJEIpckszW26+RusIIAKOFelfvn0SvfCkzYQL2t2Mx hZQ0s/OH55g83TnXJudmn8h/QmB4+UrIsgCioeaO4LS7ZkNwTJ+MnWTmKOFRIyLE WeznFkV07pzpozkrhmq6yIFUDHI52/Asc1NMm2DpB9n55OZG7G76xJHu1P2BfoDm jyymBTuLaegpixqtpmtokvTcC2CcqyZ1vmC682qgxfNFbwuNhU9Gx0mKkl1ZQbT8 XHSjRNUBJNRdHqWTh2Rh3BzilzmXgvtSNt/zN6cUOoVedNa3VZ7mZ7Eb433osFZk JsoLD86WQGS7j3anNfhoc99zXfTgmjGqCyjXvmB5msUq14FMmu/iux4zMKayH4M= =8oPU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 15:46:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7057106566C for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 15:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702EC8FC0C for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 15:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxl31 with SMTP id 31so255588yxl.13 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 08:46:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=PFUtiPjaH0cOfkk8rYxIuifjEAUx13Jed9DZdUOmx6A=; b=ffAMv8DkhOGULstziRyjNJNGkDLTnVR86Ibo01+8zGMlH9XCmb+OFZAqMYmNmvCJEa A72gIoajKl1//7ACzh1Jz7cwZRoCZSgfpwQEpspDM7S1gCzDQqmqUQhHH4uQ/N2lKiUp 4O1MOogvI4nTCsybc4c9QNetA+Rd+JOuJ8/50= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=xKYTj5TRakRozFW8eBkmLPBUJAuauUzglZF1GC+IYOdDQhs9wIQNjjNq9pkLLRjUcm nzlPrlQjfoEVLC3AYdklWoxqTLwAQHjzh31mIlBuvA3QdNsh/d6qsWnfKFgzQdjV/LjQ m9HcUdmQkzT018s2zj6A32oaV7njC6wWo5TGM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.17.208 with SMTP id j56mr716592yhj.458.1305647181337; Tue, 17 May 2011 08:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.103.52 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2011 08:46:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201105171540.36757.milu@dat.pl> References: <201105171540.36757.milu@dat.pl> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 16:46:21 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Maciej Milewski Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: n dhert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adding new disk >2TB, gpt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 15:46:22 -0000 On 17 May 2011 14:40, Maciej Milewski wrote: > On Tuesday 17 of May 2011 15:19:40, n dhert wrote: > > Thanks for your answer! > > I am trying out gpart. > > On an old PC with 38 GB disk, I have triple boot Windows, OpenSuSE and > > FreeBSD-8.2. > > I created an unalloated space of 973 MB at the end. > > To see the actuel disk geometry, I used FreeBSDs sysinstall > > # sysinstall > > Disk name: ad0 FDISK Partition > > Editor > > DISK Geometry: 79780 cyls/16 heads/63 sectors = 80418240 sectors > (39266MB) > > Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype > > Flags > > 0 63 62 - 12 unused 0 > > 63 22233897 22233959 ad0s1 4 NTFS/HPFS/QNX 7 > > 22233960 29639736 51873695 ad0s3 8 freebsd 165 > > 51873696 189 51873884 - 12 unused 0 > > 51873885 26539380 78413264 ad0s2 4 extended DOS, LBA > 15 > > 78413265 1992060 80405324 ad0s4 4 ext2fs 131 > > 80405325 12915 80418239 - 12 unused 0 > > > > ad0s1 is my Windows, > > ad0s2 is the extended partition where SuSE resides (swap and / partition) > > ad0s3 is my FreeBSD-8.2 (with sections a, e, f, d for /, /tmp, /usr, > /var) > > and ad0s4 is the new freed space of 1992060 sectors = 973 MB > > > > I tried > > # gpart create -s gpt ad0s4 > > gpart: provider: Device not configured > > ( gpart create -s gtp /dev/ad0s4 : same error) > > > > # gpart show > > => 63 80418177 ad0 MBR (38G) > > 63 22233897 1 ntfs (11G) > > 22233960 29639736 3 freebsd [active] (14G) > > 51873696 189 - free - (95K) > > 51873885 26539380 2 !15 (13G) > > 78413265 1992060 4 !131 (973M) > > 80405325 12915 - free - (6.3M) > > > > => 0 26539380 ad0s2 EBR (13G) > > 0 2072385 1 !130 (1.0G) > > 2072385 18249840 32896 !131 (8.7G) > > 20322225 6152895 322576 !131 (2.9G) > > 26475120 64260 - free - (31M) > > > > => 0 29639736 ad0s3 BSD (14G) > > 0 1048576 1 freebsd-ufs (512M) > > 1048576 1994384 2 freebsd-swap (974M) > > 3042960 3092480 4 freebsd-ufs (1.5G) > > 6135440 1048576 5 freebsd-ufs (512M) > > 7184016 22455720 6 freebsd-ufs (11G) > > # gpart create -s gpt ad4 > > gpart: provider 'ad4': Invalid argument > > > > how do I address the 974 MB partition ??? > You can't create gpt table on top of existing MBR table. > If you want to use gpt you need to have clean hard drive for that(removed > all > partitions and destroy current table) > If you just want to add ad0s4 you should do gpart add ... > > Maciej > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > sounds like you maybe using some kind of LUN to generate a 9 TB disk. If I have misunderstood this though and you are using the advanced format drives (generally satas above 1.5tb) then make sure you 4k align any partitions you create From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 15:52:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE4B106566B for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 15:52:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh1.interactivevillages.com (ca.2e.7bae.static.theplanet.com [174.123.46.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79AED8FC1A for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 15:52:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-24-22-230-24.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([24.22.230.24] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh1.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QMMZI-0001I6-Ar for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 May 2011 08:51:57 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 17 May 2011 08:52:19 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 08:52:19 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110517155219.GB44847@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110515191828.GA3647@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516100038.9940bcfc.freebsd@edvax.de> <10F63344ABE3D90FFAF0BC99@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> <20110516181449.GD68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516210935.GA91689@guilt.hydra> <20110517001348.GI68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pvezYHf7grwyp3Bc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh1.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 15:52:23 -0000 --pvezYHf7grwyp3Bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Warren Block on Monday, 16 May 2011: > On Mon, 16 May 2011, Chip Camden wrote: >=20 > >Looks like cinepaint doesn't have any GNOME dependencies, and also no HAL > >dependency. Now if I can just learn how to do everything I know how to > >do in GIMP, I'll be set for that piece. > > > >I don't use dia very often (it's for diagrams). Gnumeric I use more > >frequently (for spreadsheets). I hate having to start up that monolithic > >libreoffice just to do a spreadsheet, but that would be a HAL-free=20 > >alternative. >=20 > I just submitted ports/157096 with a patch to build gvfs without HAL=20 > support: >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D157096 >=20 > Very lightly tested, but no problems so far. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" Works for me! So long, HAL! Thanks! --=20 =2EO. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com =2E.O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com --pvezYHf7grwyp3Bc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN0pmzAAoJEIpckszW26+RKqwH/iOPkDoaAGkPpUEok0sFRycI NvK97XkAzkYoSdYBnkWbty7y0LMxBVXgukNsll7nJ3PdcMsYsOvquUY7btfEWamk PUwuP4OHP4tb/5bT/qOvyp907Go9GCTM8Xr4vx0sk5/TYwgfK2DI4MKJ5ABIRHCT gYfBcHLlYgFr52ZSxXEfvHN4r5EVQQ48Bvb3a2npXi4Qk/kpap6vU3ngRvud7Py1 L9UBUO0KUDs9uYpotkcsmeDUBpSRYocixmVTLAJiICb8HkY9aJ9kq/onkOM0sPO9 myc7CtxHs6Uba76qhQ8Dt4HX5opwBlDHpro96TlObwhmp0py1N+kbrD8xkV9HBI= =BBXv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pvezYHf7grwyp3Bc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 16:01:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D2D106566C; Tue, 17 May 2011 16:01:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from mailgw.es.net (mail1.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:201:1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122278FC22; Tue, 17 May 2011 16:01:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:910::29]) by mailgw.es.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p4HG1fmE011148 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 17 May 2011 09:01:41 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id A1E121CC0B; Tue, 17 May 2011 09:01:41 -0700 (PDT) To: Ion-Mihai Tetcu In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 17 May 2011 10:38:58 +0300." <20110517103858.9cccf61a.itetcu@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 09:01:41 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20110517160141.A1E121CC0B@ptavv.es.net> Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Skype with sound and video support :) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 16:01:42 -0000 > Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 10:38:58 +0300 > From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu > Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org > > Hi, > > > As you may have noticed skype ports were updated a few days ago. > > All skype ports were moved to net-im/: > - skype12: unchanged, very old version (for FreeBSD 6) > - skype20: last version with OSS support, that used to live in > net/skype; the DISTFILE is gone from the vendor but if you happen to > have it it would be a way of having sound w/o a need to upgrade your > base OS > - [RECOMANDED] skype: currently at 2.1.0.81 and the best supported > - skype-devel: currently at 2.2.0.25, sounds is OK, video doesn't work > > In order to run either skype or skype-devel with fully working sound > you need: > - to run fc10 (most probably, please report what you can run with fc4): > (OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f10,OVERRIDE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS=f10 > in /etc/make.conf for systems that doesn't have it as default) > - In order for Skype to work OK, you need your kernel and modules to be: > - post 2011-05-03 in on HEAD > - post 2011-05-08 in on 7,8-STABLE > The port tries to catch if your system version is too old, but there's > a ~3months window where because of a lack of OSVERSION bump, this is > not possible. So please check; and PLEAE READ THE PKG_MESSAGE for > setup details. For how to update your kernel/world, see: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html > > IF YOUR OSVERSION IS NOT NEW ENOUGH, SOUND (ESPECIALLY MIC) WON'T WORK. > > If you run into problems, at very least we need to know the output of: > > $ uname -a; sysctl compat.linux | head -2; grep OVERRIDE_LINUX_ /etc/make.conf; cat /compat/linux/etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf > > the skype version you are using, and hardware details (eg. webcam) if > related. I most probably will ignore any mail not containing this info > since without it it's impossible to help. > > Please test your sound /video setup outside skype before blaming skype / > mailing me. Many thanks for all of the work that went into getting a modern version of Skype working! Please put the information in this message (or at least most of it) into ports/UPDATING so a few less people running old kernels will be bitten by the installation of the new Skype port. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 16:28:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D6C106566C; Tue, 17 May 2011 16:28:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itetcu@FreeBSD.org) Received: from worf.ds9.tecnik93.com (worf.ds9.tecnik93.com [81.196.207.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E45E8FC08; Tue, 17 May 2011 16:28:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (unknown [188.26.251.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by worf.ds9.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A3D6822C5538; Tue, 17 May 2011 19:28:53 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 19:28:35 +0300 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: "Kevin Oberman" Message-ID: <20110517192835.22e81465@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <20110517160141.A1E121CC0B@ptavv.es.net> References: <20110517103858.9cccf61a.itetcu@FreeBSD.org> <20110517160141.A1E121CC0B@ptavv.es.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/E3WKyK.GQzBTGANDbzEl7uo"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Skype with sound and video support :) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 16:28:56 -0000 --Sig_/E3WKyK.GQzBTGANDbzEl7uo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 17 May 2011 09:01:41 -0700 "Kevin Oberman" wrote: > > Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 10:38:58 +0300 > > From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu > > Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org > >=20 > > Hi, > >=20 > >=20 > > As you may have noticed skype ports were updated a few days ago. > >=20 > > All skype ports were moved to net-im/: > > - skype12: unchanged, very old version (for FreeBSD 6) > > - skype20: last version with OSS support, that used to live in > > net/skype; the DISTFILE is gone from the vendor but if you happen to > > have it it would be a way of having sound w/o a need to upgrade your > > base OS > > - [RECOMANDED] skype: currently at 2.1.0.81 and the best supported > > - skype-devel: currently at 2.2.0.25, sounds is OK, video doesn't > > work > >=20 > > In order to run either skype or skype-devel with fully working sound > > you need: > > - to run fc10 (most probably, please report what you can run with > > fc4): (OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=3Df10,OVERRIDE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS=3Df10 > > in /etc/make.conf for systems that doesn't have it as default) > > - In order for Skype to work OK, you need your kernel and modules > > to be: > > - post 2011-05-03 in on HEAD > > - post 2011-05-08 in on 7,8-STABLE > > The port tries to catch if your system version is too old, but > > there's a ~3months window where because of a lack of OSVERSION > > bump, this is not possible. So please check; and PLEAE READ THE > > PKG_MESSAGE for setup details. For how to update your kernel/world, > > see: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.= html > >=20 > > IF YOUR OSVERSION IS NOT NEW ENOUGH, SOUND (ESPECIALLY MIC) WON'T > > WORK. > >=20 > > If you run into problems, at very least we need to know the output > > of: > >=20 > > $ uname -a; sysctl compat.linux | head -2; grep > > OVERRIDE_LINUX_ /etc/make.conf; > > cat /compat/linux/etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf > >=20 > > the skype version you are using, and hardware details (eg. webcam) > > if related. I most probably will ignore any mail not containing > > this info since without it it's impossible to help. > >=20 > > Please test your sound /video setup outside skype before blaming > > skype / mailing me. >=20 > Many thanks for all of the work that went into getting a modern > version of Skype working! >=20 > Please put the information in this message (or at least most of it) > into ports/UPDATING so a few less people running old kernels will be > bitten by the installation of the new Skype port. Well, the same (and more) is in the pkg-message also. But OK, I will, ports/UPDATING is cheap. --=20 IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" FreeBSD committer -> itetcu@FreeBSD.org, PGP Key ID 057E9F8B493A297B --Sig_/E3WKyK.GQzBTGANDbzEl7uo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk3SokQACgkQJ7GIuiH/oeX3bACeKJoAeYwU0bsK7wbpzzbHf9lx aHkAoKezUxLu/NlzWQjSsPLsGX9Bwv1N =ECyS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/E3WKyK.GQzBTGANDbzEl7uo-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 16:55:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F527106567C; Tue, 17 May 2011 16:55:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faber@isi.edu) Received: from zod.isi.edu (zod.isi.edu [128.9.168.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F5458FC12; Tue, 17 May 2011 16:55:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zod.isi.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zod.isi.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p4HGb33d022661; Tue, 17 May 2011 09:37:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from faber@isi.edu) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 09:37:03 -0700 From: Ted Faber To: Ion-Mihai Tetcu Message-ID: <20110517163702.GB6946@zod.isi.edu> References: <20110517103858.9cccf61a.itetcu@FreeBSD.org> <20110517160141.A1E121CC0B@ptavv.es.net> <20110517192835.22e81465@it.buh.tecnik93.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110517192835.22e81465@it.buh.tecnik93.com> X-url: http://www.isi.edu/~faber User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 17 May 2011 17:00:25 +0000 Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, Kevin Oberman Subject: Re: Skype with sound and video support :) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 16:55:49 -0000 --PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 07:28:35PM +0300, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > But OK, I will, ports/UPDATING is cheap. And appreciated. --=20 Ted Faber http://www.isi.edu/~faber PGP: http://www.isi.edu/~faber/pubkeys.= asc Unexpected attachment on this mail? 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Done after sending the mail :) --=20 IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" FreeBSD committer -> itetcu@FreeBSD.org, PGP Key ID 057E9F8B493A297B --Sig_/OusBl1cF8NuAB37z30JhJqd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk3SqfQACgkQJ7GIuiH/oeV4zgCggXHlSdDibh0r0jgHBBPm6zJb jG4AoKDWYyGr0paIuRL1ZU0as1coa45O =zJ13 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/OusBl1cF8NuAB37z30JhJqd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 18:34:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917AC106564A for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 18:34:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9F98FC1A for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 18:34:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg13 with SMTP id 13so335229gyg.13 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 11:34:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rLPSH/CnwLRwsPDAbepDUd4B7tQqAGLOnfFNlNA5l9k=; b=BSxJcbA8rUShdJkVtJShDZj6qvLVODP9kfnRPYx2mk/tUf+SiWzEhpy+edkSj3k938 pDPwXu5tCFL4K52Xns8bM+2ravXDgVf8YsPGEpFSdfQuB7FbAMT2x8f24/ksp4d9GPmf osK1zg4YuGv0cq/TG6FWl0HsidLARhQqtsRmY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=h7/sp4/EKu3bSw0eR+jrVHLEpJV25E/AxKIz0jDhyYOng1Ekd/LF6pYYnP78+nS03w UWAZV5C2mZvCFGjKdOY2AQThWbN746ZuSRspy0rNV0tqAPECLMRzgUH6TyVCP+tg//my rIurQBrQjriwlznsOSqpQU5jGjgexvfkIhCGc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.153.1 with SMTP id f1mr544671ano.51.1305657282292; Tue, 17 May 2011 11:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.48.6 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2011 11:34:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201105171540.36757.milu@dat.pl> References: <201105171540.36757.milu@dat.pl> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 14:34:42 -0400 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: adding new disk >2TB, gpt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 18:34:43 -0000 On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Maciej Milewski wrote: > On Tuesday 17 of May 2011 15:19:40, n dhert wrote: >> Thanks for your answer! >> I am trying out gpart. >> On an old PC with 38 GB disk, I have triple boot Windows, OpenSuSE and >> FreeBSD-8.2. >> I created an unalloated space of 973 MB at the end. >> To see the actuel disk geometry, I used =A0FreeBSDs =A0sysinstall >> # sysinstall >> Disk name: =A0 =A0 =A0ad0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0FDISK Partition >> Editor >> DISK Geometry: =A079780 cyls/16 heads/63 sectors =3D 80418240 sectors (3= 9266MB) >> Offset =A0 =A0 =A0 Size(ST) =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0End =A0 =A0 Name =A0PType =A0= =A0 =A0 Desc =A0Subtype >> Flags >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 63 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 62 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0- =A0 =A0 12 =A0 =A0 unused =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00 >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 63 =A0 22233897 =A0 22233959 =A0 =A0ad0s1 =A0 =A0 =A04 N= TFS/HPFS/QNX =A0 =A0 =A0 =A07 >> =A0 22233960 =A0 29639736 =A0 51873695 =A0 =A0ad0s3 =A0 =A0 =A08 =A0 =A0= freebsd =A0 =A0 =A0165 >> =A0 51873696 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0189 =A0 51873884 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0- =A0 =A0 12= =A0 =A0 unused =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00 >> =A0 51873885 =A0 26539380 =A0 78413264 =A0 =A0ad0s2 =A0 =A0 =A04 extende= d DOS, LBA =A0 =A0 =A0 15 >> =A0 78413265 =A0 =A01992060 =A0 80405324 =A0 =A0ad0s4 =A0 =A0 =A04 =A0 = =A0 ext2fs =A0 =A0 =A0131 >> =A0 80405325 =A0 =A0 =A012915 =A0 80418239 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0- =A0 =A0 12 = =A0 =A0 unused =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00 >> >> ad0s1 is my Windows, >> ad0s2 is the extended partition where SuSE resides (swap and / partition= ) >> ad0s3 is my FreeBSD-8.2 (with sections a, e, f, d for /, /tmp, /usr, /va= r) >> and ad0s4 is the new freed space of 1992060 sectors =3D 973 MB >> >> I tried >> # gpart create -s gpt ad0s4 >> gpart: provider: Device not configured >> ( gpart create -s gtp /dev/ad0s4 : =A0same error) >> >> # gpart show >> =3D> =A0 =A0 =A063 =A080418177 =A0ad0 =A0MBR =A0(38G) >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 63 =A022233897 =A0 =A01 =A0ntfs =A0(11G) >> =A0 22233960 =A029639736 =A0 =A03 =A0freebsd =A0[active] =A0(14G) >> =A0 51873696 =A0 =A0 =A0 189 =A0 =A0 =A0 - free - =A0(95K) >> =A0 51873885 =A026539380 =A0 =A02 =A0!15 =A0(13G) >> =A0 78413265 =A0 1992060 =A0 =A04 =A0!131 =A0(973M) >> =A0 80405325 =A0 =A0 12915 =A0 =A0 =A0 - free - =A0(6.3M) >> >> =3D> =A0 =A0 =A0 0 =A026539380 =A0ad0s2 =A0EBR =A0(13G) >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00 =A0 2072385 =A0 =A0 =A01 =A0!130 =A0(1.0G) >> =A0 =A02072385 =A018249840 =A032896 =A0!131 =A0(8.7G) >> =A0 20322225 =A0 6152895 =A0322576 =A0!131 =A0(2.9G) >> =A0 26475120 =A0 =A0 64260 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 - free - =A0(31M) >> >> =3D> =A0 =A0 =A0 0 =A029639736 =A0ad0s3 =A0BSD =A0(14G) >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00 =A0 1048576 =A0 =A0 =A01 =A0freebsd-ufs =A0(512M) >> =A0 =A01048576 =A0 1994384 =A0 =A0 =A02 =A0freebsd-swap =A0(974M) >> =A0 =A03042960 =A0 3092480 =A0 =A0 =A04 =A0freebsd-ufs =A0(1.5G) >> =A0 =A06135440 =A0 1048576 =A0 =A0 =A05 =A0freebsd-ufs =A0(512M) >> =A0 =A07184016 =A022455720 =A0 =A0 =A06 =A0freebsd-ufs =A0(11G) >> # gpart create -s gpt ad4 >> gpart: provider 'ad4': Invalid argument >> >> how do I address the 974 MB partition ??? > You can't create gpt table on top of existing MBR table. > If you want to use gpt you need to have clean hard drive for that(removed= all > partitions and destroy current table) > If you just want to add ad0s4 you should do gpart add ... Right. If you do this, you will end up with ad0p1, ad0p2 etc each with an appropriate type (freebsd-boot, freebsd-swap, freebsd-ufs) and you can then newfs the gpt partition. Needless to say, backup all your data. Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 20:02:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8A0106566B; Tue, 17 May 2011 20:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de (mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de [217.11.53.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464F78FC15; Tue, 17 May 2011 20:02:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p5B155F90.dip.t-dialin.net [91.21.95.144]) by mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0BE34844015; Tue, 17 May 2011 21:46:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from unknown (IO.Leidinger.net [192.168.2.110]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D832575; Tue, 17 May 2011 21:46:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 21:46:14 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Ion-Mihai Tetcu Message-ID: <20110517214614.00004f32@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20110517160141.A1E121CC0B@ptavv.es.net> References: <20110517103858.9cccf61a.itetcu@FreeBSD.org> <20110517160141.A1E121CC0B@ptavv.es.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8cvs47 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-EBL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-EBL-MailScanner-ID: 0BE34844015.A4000 X-EBL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-EBL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, spamhaus-ZEN, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1, required 6, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00) X-EBL-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-EBL-MailScanner-Watermark: 1306266375.36646@RUnLks7uzEroYlt4QzXx0A X-EBL-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Skype with sound and video support :) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 20:02:39 -0000 On Tue, 17 May 2011 09:01:41 -0700 "Kevin Oberman" wrote: > Please put the information in this message (or at least most of it) > into ports/UPDATING so a few less people running old kernels will be > bitten by the installation of the new Skype port. And what about a wiki page? This way we can extend it in case something important is uncovered. Bye, Alexander. -- http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID = B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID = 72077137 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 22:14:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCAE106578B for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 22:14:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lokadamus@gmx.de) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C929B8FC0A for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 22:14:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 May 2011 22:14:07 -0000 Received: from d071113.adsl.hansenet.de (EHLO [80.171.71.113]) [80.171.71.113] by mail.gmx.net (mp039) with SMTP; 18 May 2011 00:14:07 +0200 X-Authenticated: #3333826 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+zqU1kGpyz1V2e8RV2Pu8fDvtjvuXmW9IF1wRZ47 XXWBNol938ad4m Message-ID: <4DD2F32D.3090004@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 00:14:05 +0200 From: Lokadamus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mario Lobo References: <201105151503.19272.lobo@bsd.com.br> In-Reply-To: <201105151503.19272.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pptpd problem (re-post) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 22:14:12 -0000 Am 15.05.2011 20:03, schrieb Mario Lobo: > Sorry for the re-post but I am really lost here. > Any hints, clues, pointers, opinions would be appreciated. > > I have a VPN server on FBSD 8.1. The vpn closes fine. But as soon as I start > doing something with an inside LAN machine i.e. an RDP session, I get this: > > May 14 12:46:06 suporte pptpd[1958]: GRE: xmit failed from decaps_hdlc: No > buffer space available > and the VPN tunnel drops. > > I googled a lot for it but I didn't find any thing that could help. > The system WAS working OK before. I tried everything I could think of. > > Could anyone help? > Thanks, Help this? http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=1528 Your values are: net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_inc=16384 net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_max=16777216 net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_inc=8192 net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_max=16777216 Is ping working? Have you upgrade to FreeBSD 8.2? Sorry for my bad english :( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 23:03:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4AB106564A for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 23:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4658FC19 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 23:03:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yie12 with SMTP id 12so449808yie.13 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 16:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.4.19 with SMTP id g19mr898838ybi.18.1305673423654; Tue, 17 May 2011 16:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi.localnet ([186.212.114.186]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v35sm2264881yba.4.2011.05.17.16.03.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 17 May 2011 16:03:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo To: Lokadamus Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 20:03:34 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.6.2; amd64; ; ) References: <201105151503.19272.lobo@bsd.com.br> <4DD2F32D.3090004@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4DD2F32D.3090004@gmx.de> X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201105172003.34079.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pptpd problem (re-post) [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 23:03:45 -0000 On Tuesday 17 May 2011 19:14:05 Lokadamus wrote: > Am 15.05.2011 20:03, schrieb Mario Lobo: > > Sorry for the re-post but I am really lost here. > > Any hints, clues, pointers, opinions would be appreciated. > > > > I have a VPN server on FBSD 8.1. The vpn closes fine. But as soon as I > > start doing something with an inside LAN machine i.e. an RDP session, I > > get this: > > > > May 14 12:46:06 suporte pptpd[1958]: GRE: xmit failed from decaps_hdlc: > > No buffer space available > > and the VPN tunnel drops. > > > > I googled a lot for it but I didn't find any thing that could help. > > The system WAS working OK before. I tried everything I could think of. > > > > Could anyone help? > > Thanks, > > Help this? http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=1528 > Your values are: > > net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_inc=16384 > net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_max=16777216 > net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_inc=8192 > net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_max=16777216 I got those settings from http://fasterdata.es.net/fasterdata/host-tuning/freebsd/ > Is ping working? Everything is working!. Even the VPN tunnels work. I just can't do much once in it. > Have you upgrade to FreeBSD 8.2? Nope. But I will soon. Production machine. Have to wait for a window. > Sorry for my bad english :( Your English is fine! Anyway, I switched from poptop to mpd5 and the problem went away! "magic"! I openned 3 RDP sessions through the tunnel and it hanged in there. Thank you for replying! -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 00:51:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD92106566C for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 00:51:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5998C8FC13 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 00:51:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sbhfislrext01.fnfis.com ([192.168.249.167]) by SCSFISLTC01 (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p4I0pa34001975 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 19:51:36 -0500 Received: from sbhfisltcgw02.FNFIS.COM (Not Verified[10.132.248.122]) by sbhfislrext01.fnfis.com with MailMarshal (v6, 5, 4, 7535) id ; Tue, 17 May 2011 19:51:31 -0500 Received: from sbhfisltcgw02.FNFIS.COM ([10.132.248.122]) by sbhfisltcgw02.FNFIS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 17 May 2011 19:51:36 -0500 Received: from dtwin ([10.132.254.136]) by sbhfisltcgw02.FNFIS.COM over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 17 May 2011 19:51:36 -0500 From: "Devin Teske" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 17:50:51 -0700 Organization: Vicor, Inc. Message-ID: <022d01cc14f5$a37ef010$ea7cd030$@vicor.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: AcwU9GI8hsLjl/i9SKa0wpjBStrtKg== Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2011 00:51:36.0119 (UTC) FILETIME=[BD3AC470:01CC14F5] Subject: Buildworld Benchmarks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 00:51:37 -0000 Hi List, What's the fastest anyone has every completed buildworld on a single machine? The reason I ask is because we just got some new hardware in and decided to benchmark it using buildworld. Just as a quick test, we decided to perform "make -j 48 buildworld". We finished in approximately 9 minutes. I think that we can improve upon that, but am having a bit of difficulty. Can anyone offer any pointers in how to achieve the fastest buildworld possible? No particular reason... we're just trying to push the boundaries of what's possible. For reference the machine we're compiling on is a dual-socket Nehalem Xeon (six-core per proc; HTT enabled; 24 total CPUs presented by APIC) with 48GB of RAM, an LSI MegaSAS RAID controller, and an LSI 2Gbps Fibre Channel HBA going to an 8TB NEC D-4 array. ASIDE: Doing the same buildworld on a 4-disk ZFS raidz yielded approximately 11-minutes. Performing the buildworld on the NEC D-4 over the 2Gbps FC HBA yielded approximately 12 minutes. And for some unknown reason, performing buildworld on tmpfs yielded 13 minutes. We thought going tmpfs would make things faster, but that resulted in over 13 minutes (huh? you'd think a RAM disk would be smoking compared to even the SSDs that we used to achieve ~9 min; do note that we did make sure to nullfs mount a tmpfs-based directory onto /usr/obj -- though the performance of that nullfs mount might have hurt the test, not sure). -- Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _____________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 01:55:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBFB51065670 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 01:55:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (asmtp5.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5793B8FC13 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 01:55:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p4I1tFL3013547; Wed, 18 May 2011 02:55:15 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p4I1tEmP013540; Wed, 18 May 2011 02:55:14 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BF51633C50; Tue, 17 May 2011 02:27:44 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 02:27:44 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Alexander Lardner Message-ID: <20110517012744.GA64176@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5vNYLRcllDrimb99" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RC2 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Input file for shutdown warning? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 01:55:19 -0000 --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 05:38:21PM -0700, Alexander Lardner wrote: > > Hello, > Is it possible to do something like this: >=20 > shutdown -p now /root/somefile >=20 > How would I do that, or is it even possible? > Thanks, > Alex Use wall(1) # wall somefile && shutdown -p now Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk3Rzw8ACgkQHduKvUAgeK7UIQCfXZiAbzRkgFLx0HNPxF4vZQLj IUgAoM3b+pvpECg8JMmxgZiRZW06EWk/ =WLw+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5vNYLRcllDrimb99-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 06:01:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BDD1065672 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 06:01:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3DA8FC1A for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 06:01:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so1302031wwc.31 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 23:01:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Kl8+PLsnh2zvGTvDqRkGd2iXeVuGv++BoqCa0F/F0yg=; b=Jnk5RmcgNu0P0nPKs39eKc9wrVrER+ycsP/s/u+F+jZ6sjuzsEj6Ifd3BqcrDS6gc8 AA+r0KyyRtCe2bQX0/s+mFye2uOjuN5CblGtiQ//4KLcy+4zpMkKdZS8p6fI6L3rvtNK E/k/+l5KEu/UHgxXNcJsNauOShaGjA70SIhTk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WqikoAhE1FWDu0PK3uNjEQRDSd8eqBr4vvnhp0VkowuzPBuPdS0RYEyG2KIHdIOoAq V2jsJwS454v7IBfJaQZkN+O43p+REhF9AwAUi1m5pUPPKmQN3UhI3hv9rwB9wtgSqvYa NfvMk7AqnLaZdIu1xk1Bl2YcyKWuSlcIyCfzE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.235.129 with SMTP id u1mr4068348weq.108.1305698517068; Tue, 17 May 2011 23:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.2.137 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2011 23:01:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <022d01cc14f5$a37ef010$ea7cd030$@vicor.com> References: <022d01cc14f5$a37ef010$ea7cd030$@vicor.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 08:01:57 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: Devin Teske , FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Buildworld Benchmarks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 06:01:58 -0000 Hi Devin, Have a look at ccache, it might help (if you do not clean the cache every time a buildworld is done). As a comparison, my Intel i7 (8 core) CPU, finished the buildworld (-j16) in ~19 minutes (if I remember correctly). Cheers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 07:56:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B0F106564A; Wed, 18 May 2011 07:56:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itetcu@FreeBSD.org) Received: from worf.ds9.tecnik93.com (worf.ds9.tecnik93.com [81.196.207.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9188B8FC12; Wed, 18 May 2011 07:56:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User-PC (unknown [81.181.146.246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by worf.ds9.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A83F722C5547; Wed, 18 May 2011 10:56:27 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:56:27 +0300 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Alexander Leidinger Message-Id: <20110518105627.0b7afe48.itetcu@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20110517214614.00004f32@unknown> References: <20110517103858.9cccf61a.itetcu@FreeBSD.org> <20110517160141.A1E121CC0B@ptavv.es.net> <20110517214614.00004f32@unknown> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Skype with sound and video support :) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 07:56:29 -0000 On Tue, 17 May 2011 21:46:14 +0200 Alexander Leidinger wrote: > On Tue, 17 May 2011 09:01:41 -0700 "Kevin Oberman" > wrote: > > > > Please put the information in this message (or at least most of it) > > into ports/UPDATING so a few less people running old kernels will be > > bitten by the installation of the new Skype port. > > And what about a wiki page? This way we can extend it in case something > important is uncovered. I'm not opposed to it, but I don't see the need for it at this time. (Plus, I'd like to keep everything inside the port - hence the longish pkg-message - less steps to go through this way). -- Ion-Mihai Tetcu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 08:05:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4611065670 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 08:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B1D8FC1B for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 08:05:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gamma.wifi.locolomo.org (gamma.wifi.locolomo.org [172.16.1.5]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C24341C0841 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 10:05:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4DD37DDA.1090107@locolomo.org> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:05:46 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: FreeBSD compatible mini-itx board X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 08:05:49 -0000 Hi: I am looking for a new low power mini-itx board for my firewall/home server. I've had VIA boards but flacky disk controller and other problems have made me look for something else. So, going all Intel, I hope there will be no hardware problems. I'm looking at The Intel D945GSEJT with an Atom N270 processor and the following specs: Mobile Intel 945GSE Express Chipset Intel 82945GSE Express Chipset Graphics/Memory Controller Hub Intel 82801GBM I/O Controller Hub (ICH7-M) Intel GMA950 RealTek 8111DL Gigabit Ethernet Controller Does FBSD support this? I don't care about graphics basic VGA is enough as this will be a headless server. But I do care that the disk controller is fully supported as well as the NIC. Any suggestions of alternative boards? AFAIK the N270 is single core 32bit, a dual core and/or 64bit alternative would be interesting. Also: The Intel manual mentions: "Support for DDR2 533 MHz SO-DIMMs (DDR2 800 MHz and DDR2 667 MHz validated to run at 533 MHz only)" Will faster RAM result in a less stable system? And what is Serial Presence Detect RAM? I've never seen this advertised. Lots of questions, I know... Thanks, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 09:10:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B381106566C; Wed, 18 May 2011 09:10:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBAD8FC17; Wed, 18 May 2011 09:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1QMcmF-0001Ne-5b>; Wed, 18 May 2011 11:10:47 +0200 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1QMcmF-0000oN-3P>; Wed, 18 May 2011 11:10:47 +0200 Message-ID: <4DD38D17.4080100@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 11:10:47 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110429 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: Subject: editors/libreoffice: can not compile, crash on FreeBSD 9.0-CUR/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 09:10:48 -0000 On all of my FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT/amd64 boxes LibreOffice 3.3.X crashes after starting and dumping core with signal 8. The boxes are all FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT/amd64, the most recent version. The ports are up to date, I also tried to recompile every necessary port without success. On all FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT/amd64 boxes compiling LibreOffice 3.3.2 fails with the following error message. Any hints? Entering /usr/ports/editors/libreoffice/work/libreoffice-build-3.3.2.2/build/libreoffice/sw/util Compiling: sw/unxfbsdx.pro/misc/sw_dflt_version.c Compiling: sw/unxfbsdx.pro/misc/swd_dflt_version.c Compiling: sw/unxfbsdx.pro/misc/swui_dflt_version.c Compiling: sw/unxfbsdx.pro/misc/msword_dflt_version.c Compiling: sw/unxfbsdx.pro/misc/vbaswobj_dflt.uno_version.c Making: swall.lib Making: swui.lib Making: libswfx.so Making: libswdfx.so Making: libswuifx.so Making: libmswordfx.so Making: libvbaswobjfx.uno.so Making: swen-US.res Making: swde.res Compiling: rsc_sw sw deliver Module 'sw' delivered successfully. 245 files copied, 0 files unchanged ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Oh dear - something failed during the build - sorry ! For more help with debugging build errors, please see the section in: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development internal build errors: ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /usr/ports/editors/libreoffice/work/libreoffice-build-3.3.2.2/build/libreoffice/pyuno/source/loader it seems that the error is inside 'pyuno', please re-run build inside this module to isolate the error and/or test your fix: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/local/bin/bash cd /usr/ports/editors/libreoffice/work/libreoffice-build-3.3.2.2/build/libreoffice source ./FreeBSDAMDEnv.Set.sh cd pyuno build when the problem is isolated and fixed exit and re-run 'make' from the top-level sometimes (sadly) it is necessary to rm -Rf unxfbsdx.pro in a module. gmake: *** [stamp/build] Error 1 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/libreoffice. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/libreoffice. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 09:29:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1CBC106564A; Wed, 18 May 2011 09:29:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35DD8FC16; Wed, 18 May 2011 09:29:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.topspin.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id MAA15615; Wed, 18 May 2011 12:29:13 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost.topspin.kiev.ua ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.topspin.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1QMd45-000ARc-GL; Wed, 18 May 2011 12:29:13 +0300 Message-ID: <4DD39168.7010102@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 12:29:12 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110503 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "O. Hartmann" References: <4DD38D17.4080100@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <4DD38D17.4080100@zedat.fu-berlin.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: editors/libreoffice: can not compile, crash on FreeBSD 9.0-CUR/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 09:29:17 -0000 on 18/05/2011 12:10 O. Hartmann said the following: > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Oh dear - something failed during the build - sorry ! > For more help with debugging build errors, please see the section in: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development > > internal build errors: > > ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making > /usr/ports/editors/libreoffice/work/libreoffice-build-3.3.2.2/build/libreoffice/pyuno/source/loader > > > it seems that the error is inside 'pyuno', please re-run build > inside this module to isolate the error and/or test your fix: > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > /usr/local/bin/bash > cd /usr/ports/editors/libreoffice/work/libreoffice-build-3.3.2.2/build/libreoffice > source ./FreeBSDAMDEnv.Set.sh > cd pyuno > build What happens if you try to follow this advice? > when the problem is isolated and fixed exit and re-run 'make' from the top-level > sometimes (sadly) it is necessary to rm -Rf unxfbsdx.pro in a module. > gmake: *** [stamp/build] Error 1 > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/editors/libreoffice. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/editors/libreoffice. -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 09:53:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A9F106566C; Wed, 18 May 2011 09:53:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crsnet@crsnet.pl) Received: from mx1.security.edu.pl (mx1.security.edu.pl [81.31.220.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987038FC0A; Wed, 18 May 2011 09:53:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.security.edu.pl ([81.31.220.147] helo=poczta.i-pi.pl ident=www) by mx1.security.edu.pl with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1QMdF6-0004nR-PX; Wed, 18 May 2011 11:40:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 11:40:36 +0200 From: "crsnet.pl" To: Message-ID: <8bce9b8a86d5c7a83095d8e58f794f64@i-pi.pl> X-Sender: crsnet@crsnet.pl User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.4.2 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 81.31.220.147 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: crsnet@crsnet.pl X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on MTA X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.3 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50, SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mx1.security.edu.pl) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 8.2 and Lenovo X300 WWAN Modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 09:53:34 -0000 Hello. Have here anyone run this modem/GPS under FreeBSD 8.2 ? Modem is recognized, but when i try to run ppp -ddial iplus i get this error : /var/log/messages May 18 11:20:59 x60s ppp[1656]: tun0: Warning: Chat script failed /var/log/ppp May 18 11:20:53 x60s ppp[1656]: tun0: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial May 18 11:20:53 x60s ppp[1656]: tun0: Chat: Send: AT^M May 18 11:20:53 x60s ppp[1656]: tun0: Chat: Expect(2): OK May 18 11:20:53 x60s ppp[1656]: tun0: Chat: Received: AT^M^M May 18 11:20:53 x60s ppp[1656]: tun0: Chat: Received: OK^M May 18 11:20:53 x60s ppp[1656]: tun0: Chat: Send: AT+CFUN=1^M May 18 11:20:53 x60s ppp[1656]: tun0: Chat: Expect(2): OK May 18 11:20:53 x60s ppp[1656]: tun0: Chat: Received: AT+CFUN=1^M^M May 18 11:20:53 x60s ppp[1656]: tun0: Chat: Received: ERROR^M For GPS i try to use gpsdrive-2.09_11 A GPS navigation system viking-1.0.2 Program to manage GPS data (tracks, waypoints, etc) But any of them can use X300 GPS;/ #uname -a FreeBSD x60s 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Feb 18 02:24:46 UTC 2011 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 #dmesg ugen6.3: at usbus6 ugen4.2: at usbus4 u3g0: on usbus4 u3g0: Found 3 ports. #sudo usbconfig ugen4.2: at usbus4, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON ugen6.4: at usbus6, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON #ls -la /dev/cuaU* crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 123 18 maj 09:39 /dev/cuaU0.0 crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 124 18 maj 09:39 /dev/cuaU0.0.init crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 125 18 maj 09:39 /dev/cuaU0.0.lock crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 129 18 maj 09:39 /dev/cuaU0.1 crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 130 18 maj 09:39 /dev/cuaU0.1.init crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 131 18 maj 09:39 /dev/cuaU0.1.lock crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 135 18 maj 09:39 /dev/cuaU0.2 crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 136 18 maj 09:39 /dev/cuaU0.2.init crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 137 18 maj 09:39 /dev/cuaU0.2.lock #cat /etc/ppp/ppp.conf iplus: set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE) set device /dev/cuaU0.0 set speed 460800 #set speed 115200 set dial "ABORT BUSY TIMEOUT 2 \ \"\" \ AT OK-AT-OK \ AT+CFUN=1 OK-AT-OK \ AT+CMEE=2 OK-AT-OK \ AT+CSQ OK \ AT+CGDCONT=1,\\\"IP\\\",\\\"internet\\\" OK \ AT+CGACT? OK-AT-OK \ AT+CGATT? OK \ AT+CGCLASS? OK \ AT+COPS? OK \ ATD*99***1# CONNECT" set timeout 180 enable dns set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 add default HISADDR Regards, Adrian. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 10:37:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C651106566C for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 10:37:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4221C8FC08 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 10:37:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-64-49.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.64.49]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p4IAOP26002191; Wed, 18 May 2011 12:24:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <4DD39E59.60606@bah.homeip.net> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 12:24:25 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110508 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Devin Teske References: <022d01cc14f5$a37ef010$ea7cd030$@vicor.com> In-Reply-To: <022d01cc14f5$a37ef010$ea7cd030$@vicor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Buildworld Benchmarks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:37:17 -0000 2011-05-18 02:50, Devin Teske: > Hi List, > > What's the fastest anyone has every completed buildworld on a single machine? No idea. > The reason I ask is because we just got some new hardware in and decided to > benchmark it using buildworld. Nice! > Just as a quick test, we decided to perform "make -j 48 buildworld". We finished > in approximately 9 minutes. For me on the desktopsystem 33 min with make -j 24 buildworld Half an hour is half the lunchbreak. FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 250 Processor (3013.63-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x100f62 Family = 10 Model = 6 Stepping = 2 real memory = 17179869184 (16384 MB) avail memory = 16530083840 (15764 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) > I think that we can improve upon that, but am having a bit of difficulty. > > Can anyone offer any pointers in how to achieve the fastest buildworld possible? > No particular reason... we're just trying to push the boundaries of what's > possible. Check the handbook, single user comes to mind. > For reference the machine we're compiling on is a dual-socket Nehalem Xeon > (six-core per proc; HTT enabled; 24 total CPUs presented by APIC) with 48GB of > RAM, an LSI MegaSAS RAID controller, and an LSI 2Gbps Fibre Channel HBA going to > an 8TB NEC D-4 array. > > ASIDE: Doing the same buildworld on a 4-disk ZFS raidz yielded approximately > 11-minutes. Performing the buildworld on the NEC D-4 over the 2Gbps FC HBA > yielded approximately 12 minutes. And for some unknown reason, performing > buildworld on tmpfs yielded 13 minutes. > > We thought going tmpfs would make things faster, but that resulted in over 13 > minutes (huh? you'd think a RAM disk would be smoking compared to even the SSDs > that we used to achieve ~9 min; do note that we did make sure to nullfs mount a > tmpfs-based directory onto /usr/obj -- though the performance of that nullfs > mount might have hurt the test, not sure). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 10:57:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D03106566C for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 10:57:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [IPv6:2001:470:28:38a::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70118FC08 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 10:57:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.liukuma.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6511CC8F for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 13:57:34 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 3F6511CC8F DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=liukuma.net; s=liukudkim; t=1305716254; bh=ycR/PHNf2GeY2bnL58oVNxBL961MUvpfuk7muDRWt3o=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; z=X-Virus-Scanned:=20amavisd-new=20at=20liukuma.net|X-DKIM:=20Sendm ail=20DKIM=20Filter=20v2.8.3=20www.liukuma.net=20C77A61CC8B|Messag e-ID:=20<9D9581D0C8E84BF1B3BBFF2B8F696AD5@rivendell>|From:=20"Reko =20Turja"=20|To:=20"FreeBSD=20Questions"=2 0|References:=20<022d01cc14f5$a37ef 010$ea7cd030$@vicor.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<022d01cc14f5$a37ef010$ea7 cd030$@vicor.com>|Subject:=20Re:=20Buildworld=20Benchmarks|Date:=2 0Wed,=2018=20May=202011=2013:57:39=20+0300|MIME-Version:=201.0|Con tent-Type:=20text/plain=3B=0D=0A=09format=3Dflowed=3B=0D=0A=09char set=3D"iso-8859-1"=3B=0D=0A=09reply-type=3Doriginal|Content-Transf er-Encoding:=20quoted-printable|X-Priority:=203|X-MSMail-Priority: =20Normal|Importance:=20Normal|X-Mailer:=20Microsoft=20Windows=20L ive=20Mail=2014.0.8117.416|X-MimeOLE:=20Produced=20By=20Microsoft= 20MimeOLE=20V14.0.8117.416; b=m2nvRPnXgwZWKQCH0wt3CWmL0mYkNgxurlB4Vp+M9Se8GREHlC6RwNuVrkzq1/GK6 tDowpVz9rpruXhoEtK5vFh94qzxfYpdzhU0mW0XEFTK5IAQ39bviDAtbmQMQQjnBtV W7f8acczuhK4lwGIbvKEPt+GR+hvZE56DmFCfM5Q= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id mfLdgGQcmS5J for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 13:57:30 +0300 (EEST) Received: from rivendell (a91-155-174-194.elisa-laajakaista.fi [91.155.174.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C77A61CC8B for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 13:57:27 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net C77A61CC8B Message-ID: <9D9581D0C8E84BF1B3BBFF2B8F696AD5@rivendell> From: "Reko Turja" To: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <022d01cc14f5$a37ef010$ea7cd030$@vicor.com> In-Reply-To: <022d01cc14f5$a37ef010$ea7cd030$@vicor.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 13:57:39 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 Subject: Re: Buildworld Benchmarks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:57:36 -0000 > We thought going tmpfs would make things faster, but that resulted=20 > in over 13 > minutes (huh? you'd think a RAM disk would be smoking compared to=20 > even the SSDs > that we used to achieve ~9 min; do note that we did make sure to=20 > nullfs mount a > tmpfs-based directory onto /usr/obj -- though the performance of=20 > that nullfs > mount might have hurt the test, not sure). I think that doing huge parallel build and using part of memory bus=20 bandwidth for storage is the culprit. DMA offloading the storage=20 operations directly from memory to the disks is giving the advantage=20 to builds using disk IO. -Reko=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 10:37:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7FF106566B for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 10:37:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A65F8FC13 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 10:37:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.98]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kyL71g00627AodY55yQ1sJ; Wed, 18 May 2011 10:24:01 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([67.180.84.87]) by omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kyPz1g00X1t3BNj3fyQ0ya; Wed, 18 May 2011 10:24:01 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8FDE1102C19; Wed, 18 May 2011 03:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 03:23:58 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: "crsnet.pl" Message-ID: <20110518102358.GA71561@icarus.home.lan> References: <8bce9b8a86d5c7a83095d8e58f794f64@i-pi.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8bce9b8a86d5c7a83095d8e58f794f64@i-pi.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 18 May 2011 11:21:21 +0000 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.2 and Lenovo X300 WWAN Modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:37:17 -0000 On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:40:36AM +0200, crsnet.pl wrote: > Hello. > Have here anyone run this modem/GPS under FreeBSD 8.2 ? Modem is > recognized, but when i try to run ppp -ddial iplus i get this error > : > > /var/log/messages > May 18 11:20:59 x60s ppp[1656]: tun0: Warning: Chat script failed > > /var/log/ppp > May 18 11:20:53 x60s ppp[1656]: tun0: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial > May 18 11:20:53 x60s ppp[1656]: tun0: Chat: Send: AT^M > May 18 11:20:53 x60s ppp[1656]: tun0: Chat: Expect(2): OK > May 18 11:20:53 x60s ppp[1656]: tun0: Chat: Received: AT^M^M > May 18 11:20:53 x60s ppp[1656]: tun0: Chat: Received: OK^M > May 18 11:20:53 x60s ppp[1656]: tun0: Chat: Send: AT+CFUN=1^M > May 18 11:20:53 x60s ppp[1656]: tun0: Chat: Expect(2): OK > May 18 11:20:53 x60s ppp[1656]: tun0: Chat: Received: AT+CFUN=1^M^M > May 18 11:20:53 x60s ppp[1656]: tun0: Chat: Received: ERROR^M I'm not familiar with GPS modem units, but I am familiar with classic modems and a little bit with chat scripts from my Linux days. A couple things -- and possibly these GPS modems behave differently than what I was used to back in the early 90s: 1) Based on the chat logs above, it looks like echo mode is enabled on the modem. The client should be sending "AT\r", and it should receive the response "OK\r". Instead, the log indicates what you're getting back is "AT\r\rOK\r". 2) Regardless of #1, the AT+CFUN=1 command you're sending to the modem results in the modem itself responding with ERROR. This isn't coming from ppp, chat, or anything else -- the modem is literally responding with ERROR itself. Meaning, that command (obviously not Hayes!) the modem firmware doesn't know how to interpret. I have no idea what +CFUN=1 does, but then again the modem doesn't seem to either. :-) So I guess my advice would be: fix your chat script to work properly with your modem. :-) Your script is here: > set dial "ABORT BUSY TIMEOUT 2 \ > \"\" \ > AT OK-AT-OK \ > AT+CFUN=1 OK-AT-OK \ > AT+CMEE=2 OK-AT-OK \ > AT+CSQ OK \ > AT+CGDCONT=1,\\\"IP\\\",\\\"internet\\\" OK \ > AT+CGACT? OK-AT-OK \ > AT+CGATT? OK \ > AT+CGCLASS? OK \ > AT+COPS? OK \ > ATD*99***1# CONNECT" -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 12:48:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D421065672 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 12:48:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F0FA38FC1A for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 12:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.61] by nm13.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 May 2011 12:48:43 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.25] by tm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 May 2011 12:48:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 May 2011 12:48:43 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 514375.29278.bm@omp1025.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 72028 invoked by uid 60001); 18 May 2011 12:48:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1305722923; bh=TXnHBpt6uL7K2/iOsPIJ2vVUlBJWjWd8AfkVmnSWajk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=AXzpq/ykAvpWTg67QbTmri462C0NaHNQOwW/rptas2heG6W/FLxNlq8ajrbPdzCuOIbCLKDuX14c/RFrJOoDI4ywiSBFFGY+2YAXNpaS3oavYmQZHAglqw40+Dzm067QOOrn4TIlTuYmJk7HbGkPQmgDF2LzWeXISsjiXys8/kI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bhX3Ncl3WLcNmab53Wfw8AykWkP7HEzGXmkb6b5sXrEFNxRb39+RTQ4s2t/GyFgcJL6xfG+Ba58qD+LIEQmoBHA1R0mDnRfSuZU6npmApC0Pr7RzGaHSiCnpoEMhM8RabruCJ7hKxjvFNSoX4G6Rg8I3mEKNt+naSmwqGC7x+TY=; Message-ID: <15252.72020.qm@web113501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: W.bybSIVM1ljuA0Dg8DTT5FWrPDO3zTBUsYf5dGEASA_qbd N2GQHQGZmp5z.PPpZ7sQmsa2AnWtZD5yz1B.ZsEykc5nVGbOxiyYNEMyfHmy qkVFV5mUzuioUuvzSO97Bqa8S45DwsyVLALiWYwcW3zVqBkDAfS_w8k_ZTAG n0LvS2Z7vtjBkjcyKJbV2DUD3nhtyzz7TwCUv3LwkY9F81_2tvJXJbbb3_VJ fkOe97eRXKb87QnGfaoVslYkf9UQZ2E8EQxT3vPI4qPK5z51Zfu8PFTp1NR8 VEVjwsnZIi3gVsx36mou52vc___oxouRhodbHHHRIdMGXxKnWA7eIXHGtisb b81MyOrWJLSMPQaV.fR_V.i1_6iNRlx5Y7BQDTezKxBOuAl9IGe4wM1M0jvM KXP498.6ysc5D Received: from [200.80.219.194] by web113501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2011 05:48:42 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.1 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.303096 Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 05:48:42 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Firebird 2.5 and SysV Semaphores X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 12:48:44 -0000 Hi, I have a problem with Firebird 2.5, and posted the issue in their maili= ng list. They suggested that I have to recompile the kernel to allow more S= ysV semaphores. Do you recommend this?=0A=0AHere's a copy of my mail:=0A=0A= > I recently installed Firebird 2.5 on a FreeBSD, it was running ok=0A> unt= il this moring when suddendly it stopped accepting connections.=0A>=0A> The= server runs via inetd.=0A>=0A> Here is a copy of the last lines of firebir= d.log:=0A>=0A> -----------------------------------------------=0A> server.r= ame.local Tue May 17 16:15:33 2011=0A> ISC_event_wait: semop failed with = errno =3D3D 22=0A>=0A>=0A> server.rame.local Tue May 17 16:15:33 2011=0A> = create_semaphores failed:=0A> operating system directive semget failed= =0A> No space left on device=0A>=0A>=0A> server.rame.local Tue May 17 16:= 15:33 2011=0A> ISC_event_wait: semop failed with errno =3D3D 22=0A>=0A>= =0A> server.rame.local Tue May 17 16:15:33 2011=0A> create_semaphores fai= led:=0A> operating system directive semget failed=0A> No space left on = device=0A=0AShould rebuild kernel with more SysV semaphores.=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 12:54:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2C6106566C for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 12:54:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jack@jarasoft.net) Received: from raats.xs4all.nl (raats.xs4all.nl [82.95.230.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E907B8FC18 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 12:54:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from raats.xs4all.nl (orac.jarasoft.net [10.10.10.10]) by raats.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C413D7550; Wed, 18 May 2011 14:55:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jarasc430 (raats.xs4all.nl [82.95.230.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by raats.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7919E3D754F; Wed, 18 May 2011 14:55:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <81D0DCF15FDE4100AC6FA8DEA50F3B14@jarasc430> From: "Jack Raats" To: , Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 14:54:38 +0200 Organization: JaRaSoft, Steenbergen, Nederland MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on orac.jarasoft.net X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 18 May 2011 13:51:09 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD 7.4-STABLE server behind an isa server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jack Raats List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 12:54:52 -0000 I am setting up a FreeBSD 7.4 server behind an ISA server. The purpose = of this server is to serve as an intranet web server. But I would like to update the ports of course. I have a login and password for the isa server. I would like to know how to implement this so that I can usr portupgrade = to update the ports and to use make install excuses for the bad english thanks Jack From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 14:44:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D836C1065674 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 14:44:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zoe.davis@hostingobserver.com) Received: from mx.hostingobserver.com (mx.hostingobserver.com [93.158.123.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1DF8FC14 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 14:44:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B892F003F1 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 16:29:03 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: localhost at localhost Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ms7jqJZ1Fg1X for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 16:29:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8390A2F003E6 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 16:29:02 +0200 Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 16:29:02 +0200 To: "questions@FreeBSD.org" From: Zoe Davis Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: PHPMailer [version 1.73] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Cc: Subject: Inquiry about The FreeBSD Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Zoe Davis List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 14:44:38 -0000 Hi! 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The purpose of this server is to serve as an intranet web server. > But I would like to update the ports of course. > I have a login and password for the isa server. > I would like to know how to implement this so that I can usr portupgrade to update the ports and to use make install > > excuses for the bad english > > thanks > > Jack > Install www/cntlm from ports, it has a simple config file that you must edit. It authenticates to ISA and listens on a specified local port, you can set http/ftp_proxy to localhost:port and fetch(1) will roll. Regards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 17:41:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789D8106566C for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 17:41:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@ethic.thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B52E8FC17 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 17:41:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p4IHfhuB063002 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 10:41:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@ethic.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id p4IHfhCT063001 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 18 May 2011 10:41:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:41:43 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110518174141.GA62977@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Subject: kwik way? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 17:41:47 -0000 should i use tr or sed to turn "\t" into " "? --i.e., tabs into spaces. tx! -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org ethic Just released: http://transfinite.thought.org/17da.html "Where's that bloody .357?!" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 18:09:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8328106566B for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 18:09:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A878FC17 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 18:09:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p4II9b8U042769 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 18 May 2011 13:09:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p4II9bOg064875 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 18 May 2011 13:09:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.4/Submit) id p4II9a79064867; Wed, 18 May 2011 13:09:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 13:09:36 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20110518180936.GD34082@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20110518174141.GA62977@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110518174141.GA62977@thought.org> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.2-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Wed, 18 May 2011 13:09:37 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Expanding tabs (was Re: kwik way?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 18:09:38 -0000 In the last episode (May 18), Gary Kline said: > should i use tr or sed to turn "\t" into " "? --i.e., tabs into spaces. tr or expand (depending on whether you want to honor the intent of the tab or not). sed is overkill. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 18:20:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66465106566C for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 18:20:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4CD8FC08 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 18:20:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SBHFISLREXT03 ([10.132.254.62]) by SCSFISLTC02 (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p4IIK53N009718; Wed, 18 May 2011 13:20:05 -0500 Received: from SBHFISLTCGW04.FNFIS.COM (Not Verified[10.132.248.123]) by SBHFISLREXT03 with MailMarshal (v6, 5, 4, 7535) id ; Wed, 18 May 2011 13:20:29 -0500 Received: from SBHFISLTCGW07.FNFIS.COM ([10.132.248.135]) by SBHFISLTCGW04.FNFIS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 18 May 2011 13:20:05 -0500 Received: from dtwin ([10.132.254.136]) by SBHFISLTCGW07.FNFIS.COM over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 18 May 2011 13:20:04 -0500 From: "Devin Teske" To: "'Gary Kline'" , "'FreeBSD Mailing List'" References: <20110518174141.GA62977@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20110518174141.GA62977@thought.org> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 11:19:21 -0700 Organization: Vicor, Inc. Message-ID: <000801cc1588$1cf81e20$56e85a60$@vicor.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: AQNkwfLlwlcMMVgu7IE6EzX8THu0uZFhiWCw Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2011 18:20:04.0634 (UTC) FILETIME=[35A05FA0:01CC1588] Cc: Subject: RE: kwik way? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 18:20:06 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Gary Kline > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 10:42 AM > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: kwik way? > > should i use tr or sed to turn "\t" into " "? --i.e., tabs into spaces. Depends on how you do it in sed. The y/// operator is faster than s/// when transliterating a single character globally. If you use y/// instead of s///, then sed performance should be on-par with tr. Below are some performance metrics involving a 100,000 line contrived text file containing 1M tabs and 1.8M spaces: $ wc -l foo 100000 foo $ du -h foo 2.8M foo $ file foo foo: ASCII text $ time sh -c "sed -e 's/ / /g' < foo > bar" real 0m2.479s user 0m1.047s sys 0m0.105s $ md5 bar MD5 (bar) = f0187bcbc37cd6d84c6f5cadc6443843 $ time sh -c "tr '\t' ' ' < foo > bar" real 0m0.261s user 0m0.120s sys 0m0.026s $ md5 bar MD5 (bar) = f0187bcbc37cd6d84c6f5cadc6443843 $ time sh -c "sed -e 'y/ / /' < foo > bar" real 0m0.261s user 0m0.116s sys 0m0.087s $ md5 bar MD5 (bar) = f0187bcbc37cd6d84c6f5cadc6443843 -- Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. 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Thank you. _____________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 18:36:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E144106564A for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 18:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2823B8FC14 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 18:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sbhfislrext02.fnfis.com ([192.168.249.140]) by SCSFISLTC01 (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p4IIaMPf000649; Wed, 18 May 2011 13:36:22 -0500 Received: from sbhfisltcgw01.FNFIS.COM (Not Verified[10.132.248.121]) by sbhfislrext02.fnfis.com with MailMarshal (v6, 5, 4, 7535) id ; Wed, 18 May 2011 13:36:25 -0500 Received: from sbhfisltcgw01.FNFIS.COM ([10.132.248.121]) by sbhfisltcgw01.FNFIS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 18 May 2011 13:36:22 -0500 Received: from dtwin ([10.132.254.136]) by sbhfisltcgw01.FNFIS.COM over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 18 May 2011 13:36:21 -0500 From: "Devin Teske" To: "'Gary Kline'" , "'FreeBSD Mailing List'" References: <20110518174141.GA62977@thought.org> <000801cc1588$1cf81e20$56e85a60$@vicor.com> In-Reply-To: <000801cc1588$1cf81e20$56e85a60$@vicor.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 11:35:35 -0700 Organization: Vicor, Inc. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 18:36:23 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Devin Teske > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:19 AM > To: 'Gary Kline'; 'FreeBSD Mailing List' > Subject: RE: kwik way? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Gary Kline > > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 10:42 AM > > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > > Subject: kwik way? > > > > should i use tr or sed to turn "\t" into " "? --i.e., tabs into spaces. > > Depends on how you do it in sed. The y/// operator is faster than s/// when > transliterating a single character globally. > > If you use y/// instead of s///, then sed performance should be on-par with tr. > > Below are some performance metrics involving a 100,000 line contrived text file > containing 1M tabs and 1.8M spaces: > > $ wc -l foo > 100000 foo > $ du -h foo > 2.8M foo > $ file foo > foo: ASCII text > > $ time sh -c "sed -e 's/ / /g' < foo > bar" > real 0m2.479s > user 0m1.047s > sys 0m0.105s > $ md5 bar > MD5 (bar) = f0187bcbc37cd6d84c6f5cadc6443843 > > $ time sh -c "tr '\t' ' ' < foo > bar" > real 0m0.261s > user 0m0.120s > sys 0m0.026s > $ md5 bar > MD5 (bar) = f0187bcbc37cd6d84c6f5cadc6443843 > > $ time sh -c "sed -e 'y/ / /' < foo > bar" > real 0m0.261s > user 0m0.116s > sys 0m0.087s > $ md5 bar > MD5 (bar) = f0187bcbc37cd6d84c6f5cadc6443843 In case you were thinking of either awk or perl, I'd recommend against those given the following results: $ time sh -c "awk '{gsub(/\t/,\" \");print}' < foo > bar" real 0m2.769s user 0m1.498s sys 0m0.140s $ md5 bar MD5 (bar) = f0187bcbc37cd6d84c6f5cadc6443843 $ time sh -c "perl -pe 'tr/\t/ /' < foo > bar" real 0m0.565s user 0m0.277s sys 0m0.137s $ md5 bar MD5 (bar) = f0187bcbc37cd6d84c6f5cadc6443843 > -- > Devin > > _____________ > > The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. 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Thank you. _____________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 19:01:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5C71065670 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 19:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward11.mail.yandex.net (forward11.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B9B8FC0A for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 19:01:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp11.mail.yandex.net (smtp11.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.67]) by forward11.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id F3C2FE82AD5 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 23:01:28 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1305745289; bh=thGQmJwshhvJIIxEcnbwiWUywoYY1BjJkOP19b7B5d0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=vGRee51v4kpm8l6oq9YHYO5DWjKs39Yf2xaPoNnWwV/YEwaZRZfaU+/2xjLSb0ALE pIIBBXXPPPcSQQ3tEdkxfU8T2Rc2FrQyRQF569mAxtg7BUdp6h7JCOYjQD1HUklBT1 e5j2wmAXHfMzjm2FQLY49RHPiEpK3yLXUc5n9TdY= Received: from [10.10.1.40] (unknown [77.93.52.4]) by smtp11.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTPA id AB3494CC005D for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 23:01:28 +0400 (MSD) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 22:01:29 +0300 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1857504788.20110518220129@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Cc: Subject: How to update build tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 19:01:31 -0000 Hi I am compile freebsd from source, but get error 2 some time ago somebody advice me to update build tools or etc. But I do not remember ( please remind me which command to use to update build tools? thank you -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Êîíüêîâ mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 19:04:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE32106564A for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 19:04:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout018.mac.com (asmtpout018.mac.com [17.148.16.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D598FC16 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 19:04:11 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp018.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-20.01 64bit (built Nov 21 2010)) with ESMTPSA id <0LLE00DGUNMD8050@asmtp018.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 18 May 2011 12:03:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-05-18_06:2011-05-18, 2011-05-18, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1105180131 From: Chuck Swiger X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-reply-to: <1857504788.20110518220129@yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 12:03:49 -0700 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <469A67A7-8F08-4A02-8AB2-03019FDE5065@mac.com> References: <1857504788.20110518220129@yandex.ru> To: =?utf-8?B?0JrQvtC90YzQutC+0LIg0JXQstCz0LXQvdC40Lk=?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to update build tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 19:04:11 -0000 On May 18, 2011, at 12:01 PM, =EB=CF=CE=D8=CB=CF=D7 =E5=D7=C7=C5=CE=C9=CA = wrote: > I am compile freebsd from source, but get error 2 > some time ago somebody advice me to update build tools or etc. > But I do not remember ( >=20 > please remind me which command to use to update build tools? cd /usr/src ; make buildworld (See /usr/src/UPDATING and/or the FreeBSD Handbook....) 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Perhaps = it would be more useful to see what kind of error you are experiencing = which makes you think that updating the build tools would help? Regards, --=20 -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 19:10:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B654E1065749 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 19:10:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EB0E8FC1B for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 19:10:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DDF85E81C98; Wed, 18 May 2011 12:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 12:10:01 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Dan Nelson Message-ID: <20110518191001.GA22364@thought.org> References: <20110518174141.GA62977@thought.org> <20110518180936.GD34082@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110518180936.GD34082@dan.emsphone.com> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24++ years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Expanding tabs (was Re: kwik way?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 19:10:02 -0000 On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 01:09:36PM -0500, Dan Nelson wrote: > Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 13:09:36 -0500 > From: Dan Nelson > Subject: Re: Expanding tabs (was Re: kwik way?) > To: Gary Kline > Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List > > In the last episode (May 18), Gary Kline said: > > should i use tr or sed to turn "\t" into " "? --i.e., tabs into spaces. > > tr or expand (depending on whether you want to honor the intent of the tab > or not). sed is overkill. yeah, agree. i grabbed an old `for k in *;do' script and used tr on 80+ files. [facing reality, i'm throwing in the towel on hacking. wanted something easy!] aapreciate it. > > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@allantgroup.com -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 19:24:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 872F7106566B for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 19:24:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout023.mac.com (asmtpout023.mac.com [17.148.16.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D21C8FC0C for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 19:24:03 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp023.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-20.01 64bit (built Nov 21 2010)) with ESMTPSA id <0LLE000CWOJ2TV60@asmtp023.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 18 May 2011 12:23:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-05-18_06:2011-05-18, 2011-05-18, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1105180135 From: Chuck Swiger X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-reply-to: <15710232314.20110518222125@yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 12:23:26 -0700 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <3D67F8F7-8892-494C-985C-581DDF6CA4AD@mac.com> References: <1857504788.20110518220129@yandex.ru> <469A67A7-8F08-4A02-8AB2-03019FDE5065@mac.com> <218834106.20110518220711@yandex.ru> <15710232314.20110518222125@yandex.ru> To: =?utf-8?B?0JrQvtC90YzQutC+0LIg0JXQstCz0LXQvdC40Lk=?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re[4]: How to update build tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 19:24:03 -0000 On May 18, 2011, at 12:21 PM, =EB=CF=CE=D8=CB=CF=D7 =E5=D7=C7=C5=CE=C9=CA = wrote: > CS> The compiler toolchain is rebuilt with buildworld/installworld.=20 > CS> Perhaps it would be more useful to see what kind of error you are > CS> experiencing which makes you think that updating the build tools = would help? >=20 > error 2 when compile zlib. Sorry, I clean already and do not mind = details. Hmm-- FreeBSD should already provide an up-to-date zlib...? > While googling I am making buildworld. > If error will repeat I will post it here. > thank you. OK. --=20 -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 19:07:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871121065672 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 19:07:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward13.mail.yandex.net (forward13.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386788FC13 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 19:07:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp12.mail.yandex.net (smtp12.mail.yandex.net [95.108.131.191]) by forward13.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 908781410B4; Wed, 18 May 2011 23:07:11 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1305745631; bh=9f9aDQVgknx6+YCrEyuJzabFJzkqbHNzpSL6XQ8syvc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZD+hF6tGWy7gN2GuqHdBLHaRrqnwbXlz6S5ktICHdjH6NWqOpuVUScLIXkqATHhMQ 3q9Sltz1zi+2d4qsEpwXGJt2px1Ql9xCQ2YVqOLWJ/5IaY3J0tx44Clwcu9m4S7Pt7 9nRgQu6CxzrNXTwG37cFNCYDpYYltz+RWcdapycQ= Received: from [10.10.1.40] (unknown [77.93.52.4]) by smtp12.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTPA id 2A1895728038; Wed, 18 May 2011 23:07:11 +0400 (MSD) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 22:07:11 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?koi8-r?B?/vAg68/O2MvP1ywgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <218834106.20110518220711@yandex.ru> To: Chuck Swiger In-Reply-To: <469A67A7-8F08-4A02-8AB2-03019FDE5065@mac.com> References: <1857504788.20110518220129@yandex.ru> <469A67A7-8F08-4A02-8AB2-03019FDE5065@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 18 May 2011 20:54:16 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: How to update build tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?koi8-r?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 19:07:13 -0000 úÄÒÁ×ÓÔ×ÕÊÔÅ, Chuck. ÷Ù ÐÉÓÁÌÉ 18 ÍÁÑ 2011 Ç., 22:03:49: CS> On May 18, 2011, at 12:01 PM, ëÏÎØËÏ× å×ÇÅÎÉÊ wrote: >> I am compile freebsd from source, but get error 2 >> some time ago somebody advice me to update build tools or etc. >> But I do not remember ( >> >> please remind me which command to use to update build tools? CS> cd /usr/src ; make buildworld CS> (See /usr/src/UPDATING and/or the FreeBSD Handbook....) CS> Regards, no, I upgrade from freebsd current 201101 to 201105 and there was command without buildworld -- ó Õ×ÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ, ëÏÎØËÏ× mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 19:21:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F061065674 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 19:21:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward15.mail.yandex.net (forward15.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491268FC14 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 19:21:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp14.mail.yandex.net (smtp14.mail.yandex.net [95.108.131.192]) by forward15.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 7A21A9E14B9; Wed, 18 May 2011 23:21:25 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1305746485; bh=+dw8RZhJWCEhSGvSB3P4dj/95ClCs03cF402Ig/A/Lc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=NOmEYvlOJk1dZpkFbokSoiiNik9lu+naj9JG6rbaSj/Legy0L7wY9y0Dq7iKemZRI mbbr53LVafeEji88zV3fdLAIqccTdVG7+z3J1gnLqIS4y8HBrNuj3ecWQ5T2mlJnIr XUSe/SEUmR0e2CdwfnfJ5xLIiaBRmfsrsyZOm0So= Received: from [10.10.1.40] (unknown [77.93.52.4]) by smtp14.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTPA id 0CC9619B8079; Wed, 18 May 2011 23:21:24 +0400 (MSD) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 22:21:25 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?koi8-r?B?/vAg68/O2MvP1ywgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15710232314.20110518222125@yandex.ru> To: Chuck Swiger In-Reply-To: References: <1857504788.20110518220129@yandex.ru> <469A67A7-8F08-4A02-8AB2-03019FDE5065@mac.com> <218834106.20110518220711@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 18 May 2011 21:08:13 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[4]: How to update build tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?koi8-r?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 19:21:27 -0000 úÄÒÁ×ÓÔ×ÕÊÔÅ, Chuck. ÷Ù ÐÉÓÁÌÉ 18 ÍÁÑ 2011 Ç., 22:09:26: CS> On May 18, 2011, at 12:07 PM, ëÏÎØËÏ× å×ÇÅÎÉÊ wrote: >> no, I upgrade from freebsd current 201101 to 201105 >> and there was command without buildworld CS> The compiler toolchain is rebuilt with buildworld/installworld. CS> Perhaps it would be more useful to see what kind of error you are CS> experiencing which makes you think that updating the build tools would help? error 2 when compile zlib. Sorry, I clean already and do not mind details. While googling I am making buildworld. If error will repeat I will post it here. thank you. -- ó Õ×ÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ, ëÏÎØËÏ× mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 20:15:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7A8106564A for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 20:15:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward10.mail.yandex.net (forward10.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0054F8FC19 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 20:15:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp9.mail.yandex.net (smtp9.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.35]) by forward10.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 447C81022C45; Thu, 19 May 2011 00:15:34 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1305749734; bh=njAG3w7P9OdIsMwsC+Xkn6q9zkgA1J0F86HOn0BnJXU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=J4XXttEeKs46OrwpgILClUiORmn46+eIJYtsrIGY5+c7rkQmrAkkuZ6SGAWcIhlvj P5KDE96ysgKbD78eITQ7zCBYzanouTGWM5/Ur8w5ehGoWSLAilWF8+CHv5rYQnJRIA Qm2dfrCJUVTnCzjDNhcLFUSsueLpYhFePch35iEU= Received: from [10.10.1.40] (unknown [77.93.52.4]) by smtp9.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTPA id B5DD84BA006D; Thu, 19 May 2011 00:15:33 +0400 (MSD) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 23:15:34 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?koi8-r?B?/vAg68/O2MvP1ywgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <120581865.20110518231534@yandex.ru> To: Chuck Swiger In-Reply-To: <3D67F8F7-8892-494C-985C-581DDF6CA4AD@mac.com> References: <1857504788.20110518220129@yandex.ru> <469A67A7-8F08-4A02-8AB2-03019FDE5065@mac.com> <218834106.20110518220711@yandex.ru> <15710232314.20110518222125@yandex.ru> <3D67F8F7-8892-494C-985C-581DDF6CA4AD@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 18 May 2011 21:08:26 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[6]: How to update build tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?koi8-r?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 20:15:36 -0000 úÄÒÁ×ÓÔ×ÕÊÔÅ, Chuck. ÷Ù ÐÉÓÁÌÉ 18 ÍÁÑ 2011 Ç., 22:23:26: CS> On May 18, 2011, at 12:21 PM, ëÏÎØËÏ× å×ÇÅÎÉÊ wrote: >> CS> The compiler toolchain is rebuilt with buildworld/installworld. >> CS> Perhaps it would be more useful to see what kind of error you are >> CS> experiencing which makes you think that updating the build tools would help? >> >> error 2 when compile zlib. Sorry, I clean already and do not mind details. CS> Hmm-- FreeBSD should already provide an up-to-date zlib...? >> While googling I am making buildworld. >> If error will repeat I will post it here. >> thank you. CS> OK. compiled without problem. after make buildworld -- ó Õ×ÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ, ëÏÎØËÏ× mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 21:12:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B5E3106564A for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 21:12:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561BD8FC0A for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 21:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwc9 with SMTP id 9so1386978qwc.13 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 14:12:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=G5n7euINFI05c+XQiDc1hHz/eZ2ea6fE+v0geKk8EMY=; b=jgBo52PTRLqjXoUeN1M6HQfalaNhIhAHYzXrgNk7el+O0Dk34sFkoz5MhvQQHpr9r4 GBC20TUMJT0edkKQMeHDt1g02xv2n+6pPSJNWx+ywvcFFSYnoIL1W2F8srC7eOcXWhph IaI2bz43KFi0mipfEW1o19kq7UDspGuL1+qpI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=jQ6TumBBL0wNksdjXhlxQz97CqESilgq7CdXqishqfbnMi+2rrL9jt9gBFoUxuM3sZ Fz3XD/93dfnuqYTaFiEP7MfLZSPWdZ7adlTYyKjS/EbYesN5n2mZTRwjNk2YVDrYs69C hOfX+AsqGm6QjcH8qOdNqzKFtVKpXVxkZgDe8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.105.153 with SMTP id t25mr1839214qco.123.1305753160514; Wed, 18 May 2011 14:12:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.216.10 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2011 14:12:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <022d01cc14f5$a37ef010$ea7cd030$@vicor.com> References: <022d01cc14f5$a37ef010$ea7cd030$@vicor.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 22:12:40 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Devin Teske Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Buildworld Benchmarks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 21:12:41 -0000 On 18 May 2011 01:50, Devin Teske wrote: > Hi List, > > What's the fastest anyone has every completed buildworld on a single > machine? > > The reason I ask is because we just got some new hardware in and decided to > benchmark it using buildworld. > > Just as a quick test, we decided to perform "make -j 48 buildworld". We > finished > in approximately 9 minutes. > > I think that we can improve upon that, but am having a bit of difficulty. > > Can anyone offer any pointers in how to achieve the fastest buildworld > possible? > No particular reason... we're just trying to push the boundaries of what's > possible. > > For reference the machine we're compiling on is a dual-socket Nehalem Xeon > (six-core per proc; HTT enabled; 24 total CPUs presented by APIC) with 48GB > of > RAM, an LSI MegaSAS RAID controller, and an LSI 2Gbps Fibre Channel HBA > going to > an 8TB NEC D-4 array. > > ASIDE: Doing the same buildworld on a 4-disk ZFS raidz yielded > approximately > 11-minutes. Performing the buildworld on the NEC D-4 over the 2Gbps FC HBA > yielded approximately 12 minutes. And for some unknown reason, performing > buildworld on tmpfs yielded 13 minutes. > > We thought going tmpfs would make things faster, but that resulted in over > 13 > minutes (huh? you'd think a RAM disk would be smoking compared to even the > SSDs > that we used to achieve ~9 min; do note that we did make sure to nullfs > mount a > tmpfs-based directory onto /usr/obj -- though the performance of that > nullfs > mount might have hurt the test, not sure). > -- > Devin > > _____________ > > The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or > confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the > message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message > in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please > be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving > and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. > _____________ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > to make it fair you would have to have a generic src.conf and specify whether you used clang or gcc. As well as the release as well From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 22:06:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2B51065673 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 22:06:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D282C8FC14 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 22:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p4IM66Mt059949; Wed, 18 May 2011 16:06:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p4IM66og059946; Wed, 18 May 2011 16:06:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 16:06:06 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Devin Teske In-Reply-To: <000d01cc158a$639dfc30$2ad9f490$@vicor.com> Message-ID: References: <20110518174141.GA62977@thought.org> <000801cc1588$1cf81e20$56e85a60$@vicor.com> <000d01cc158a$639dfc30$2ad9f490$@vicor.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 18 May 2011 16:06:06 -0600 (MDT) Cc: 'Gary Kline' , 'FreeBSD Mailing List' Subject: RE: kwik way? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 22:06:08 -0000 On Wed, 18 May 2011, Devin Teske wrote: > In case you were thinking of either awk or perl, I'd recommend against those > given the following results: > ... > > $ time sh -c "perl -pe 'tr/\t/ /' < foo > bar" > real 0m0.565s > user 0m0.277s > sys 0m0.137s > $ md5 bar > MD5 (bar) = f0187bcbc37cd6d84c6f5cadc6443843 While Perl is a quarter of a second slower than best-case sed, it does offer the ability to directly understand \t (and \n, and lots of other escapes). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 07:41:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21341065670 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 07:41:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F2C8FC19 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 07:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p4J7Uthr002109 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 19 May 2011 00:30:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p4J7UtEw002108; Thu, 19 May 2011 00:30:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA25656; Thu, 19 May 11 00:23:59 PDT Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 00:23:07 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: norgaard@locolomo.org Message-Id: <4dd4c55b.y99nUfzO1JLxPrYI%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4DD37DDA.1090107@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <4DD37DDA.1090107@locolomo.org> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD compatible mini-itx board X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 07:41:47 -0000 Erik N?rgaard wrote: > ... what is Serial Presence Detect RAM? SPD refers to an I2C device mounted on (most) DIMMS, which provides the BIOS with the DIMM's size and speed properties. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 07:46:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300671065703 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 07:46:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Anti-Virus-From@sha.pilship.com) Received: from cnc.cn.pilship.com (cnc.cn.pilship.com [210.13.88.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35C08FC0A for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 07:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost by cnc.cn.pilship.com; 19 May 2011 15:39:13 +0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: 19 May 2011 15:39:14 +0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Anti-Virus-From Message-Id: <20110519074626.300671065703@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: c150A.pilship.com Virus removed from message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 07:46:26 -0000 The following viruses were repaired or dropped from the message (MID 102740= 31) 'W32/MyDoom-O' And, Attachments dropped during repair. Actions taken: Message delivered Original Envelope Sender: From freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 19 15:39:13 2011 Message Headers: From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org To: chris.lin@sha.pilship.com Subject: Error Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 14:36:08 +0700 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=3D"----=3D_NextPart_000_0002_CC= EB72FA.241A7AAE" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 09:27:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C38E106567D for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 09:27:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643EE8FC1F for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 09:27:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lMBU1g0021wfjNsAFMEaU0; Thu, 19 May 2011 09:14:34 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([67.180.84.87]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lMEZ1g00V1t3BNj8jMEagm; Thu, 19 May 2011 09:14:34 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6FCEA102C19; Thu, 19 May 2011 02:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 02:14:33 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: grarpamp Message-ID: <20110519091433.GA94053@icarus.home.lan> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UDF and DVD's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 09:27:45 -0000 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:36:02AM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > Greetings... :) > > The first filesystem DVD... other than a movie DVD (DVD-VIDEO?), > and the FreeBSD make release DVD's (iso9660)... that I've ever tried > to mount, well... don't. It is: > Windows 7 Ultimate with Service Pack 1 (x64) - DVD (English) 5/12/2011 > You can find the SHA-1 hash here: > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/downloads/default.aspx > and a sample image, if needed for reference purposes, via any search > engine. > > Anyways, after a little reasearch, does FreeBSD not, in fact, support > this UDF version? (I don't yet know how to supply the version of > this image for you?) > > Can the FreeBSD team implement it? Perhaps by porting from NetBSD > 5.1's seemingly near complete implementation? > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Disk_Format > http://www.osta.org/specs/index.htm > As perhaps even a GSOC or Foundation project? Because reading retail > optical filesystem formats would seem to be a rather expected > capability? > > I'm guessing the current state within FreeBSD means that I can > neither read, nor create, or write, readable (compatible) images > at this, or any given, UDF level? > > As I've no other DVD's to test with... what UDF versions are most > DVD data ROM's published in? > > Is this a blocker for FreeBSD? > > For me, at least, minimally, that seems to be the case... as I now > have no way to rip, mount and add the files to this DVD that I would > like to add. Except to use Windows, which I consider to be unreliable > at best. > > Thoughts? Thanks :) Thoughts: please provide commands, full output, etc. that show how you're trying to mount the disc, as well as relevant /dev entries pertaining to your DVD drive. dmesg might also be helpful. And I assume you have looked at mount_udf(8)? -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 09:46:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1C4106564A for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 09:46:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574C08FC13 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 09:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvg11 with SMTP id 11so1434961pvg.13 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 02:46:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=W90XvgAHYqw9Plm0gVBUGFKVuA5et0IbX7ACZcYRPbo=; b=QbH3uZsx5swpINGN4UCeslcNQ52gyogkIzbhedHSKmkY69wrYDUtZ7Q/eOAaJHiVCe C0zGp87VhdLXaR7qY1G4BQ+ou8q69wNtY+fNCyDjiw+RVhHR5fNgwtmLe8t2CDnMzyd9 Zb5v7fQ3qgJOEQNMYzdsBIJEodmysNbburxdI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=HWQz9izMPdql1M+ptryHLsY7JjL81FQFFkjitAEuGdiadLYinoXvuH5TBATgq1Dvt9 MHvSrxowvtGVq0cndWMtFs/cBrifc2uJyhrQNQy1fEdoG0qZ7yoh8qRjaXV9+aDLtN+d C9C1eBGK9GJETscnLXXJscToMIwMz3zRBY/wY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.121.41 with SMTP id t41mr1641681wfc.358.1305779762948; Wed, 18 May 2011 21:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.157.2 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2011 21:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 00:36:02 -0400 Message-ID: From: grarpamp To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: UDF and DVD's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 09:46:36 -0000 Greetings... :) The first filesystem DVD... other than a movie DVD (DVD-VIDEO?), and the FreeBSD make release DVD's (iso9660)... that I've ever tried to mount, well... don't. It is: Windows 7 Ultimate with Service Pack 1 (x64) - DVD (English) 5/12/2011 You can find the SHA-1 hash here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/downloads/default.aspx and a sample image, if needed for reference purposes, via any search engine. Anyways, after a little reasearch, does FreeBSD not, in fact, support this UDF version? (I don't yet know how to supply the version of this image for you?) Can the FreeBSD team implement it? Perhaps by porting from NetBSD 5.1's seemingly near complete implementation? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Disk_Format http://www.osta.org/specs/index.htm As perhaps even a GSOC or Foundation project? Because reading retail optical filesystem formats would seem to be a rather expected capability? I'm guessing the current state within FreeBSD means that I can neither read, nor create, or write, readable (compatible) images at this, or any given, UDF level? As I've no other DVD's to test with... what UDF versions are most DVD data ROM's published in? Is this a blocker for FreeBSD? For me, at least, minimally, that seems to be the case... as I now have no way to rip, mount and add the files to this DVD that I would like to add. Except to use Windows, which I consider to be unreliable at best. Thoughts? Thanks :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 09:53:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1233) id 0895C106566B; Thu, 19 May 2011 09:53:33 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 09:53:33 +0000 From: Alexander Best To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-ID: <20110519095333.GA43066@freebsd.org> References: <20110519091433.GA94053@icarus.home.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110519091433.GA94053@icarus.home.lan> Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, grarpamp , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UDF and DVD's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 09:53:33 -0000 On Thu May 19 11, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:36:02AM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > > Greetings... :) > > > > The first filesystem DVD... other than a movie DVD (DVD-VIDEO?), > > and the FreeBSD make release DVD's (iso9660)... that I've ever tried > > to mount, well... don't. It is: > > Windows 7 Ultimate with Service Pack 1 (x64) - DVD (English) 5/12/2011 > > You can find the SHA-1 hash here: > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/downloads/default.aspx > > and a sample image, if needed for reference purposes, via any search > > engine. > > > > Anyways, after a little reasearch, does FreeBSD not, in fact, support > > this UDF version? (I don't yet know how to supply the version of > > this image for you?) > > > > Can the FreeBSD team implement it? Perhaps by porting from NetBSD > > 5.1's seemingly near complete implementation? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Disk_Format > > http://www.osta.org/specs/index.htm > > As perhaps even a GSOC or Foundation project? Because reading retail > > optical filesystem formats would seem to be a rather expected > > capability? > > > > I'm guessing the current state within FreeBSD means that I can > > neither read, nor create, or write, readable (compatible) images > > at this, or any given, UDF level? > > > > As I've no other DVD's to test with... what UDF versions are most > > DVD data ROM's published in? > > > > Is this a blocker for FreeBSD? > > > > For me, at least, minimally, that seems to be the case... as I now > > have no way to rip, mount and add the files to this DVD that I would > > like to add. Except to use Windows, which I consider to be unreliable > > at best. > > > > Thoughts? Thanks :) freebsd as of now has two problems: 1) it only supports UDF 1.x and *not* UDF 2.x. 2) it does not properly support iso9660 with files > 4gb via multiple extents. whenever you mount such a dvd, you see each 4gb file twice. cheers. alex ps: for 2) see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/95222 > > Thoughts: please provide commands, full output, etc. that show how > you're trying to mount the disc, as well as relevant /dev entries > pertaining to your DVD drive. dmesg might also be helpful. And I > assume you have looked at mount_udf(8)? > > -- > | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | > | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | > | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | > | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP 4BD6C0CB | > -- a13x From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 09:57:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C7F1065674 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 09:57:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from JOERG.HAGMANN@UNIBAS.CH) Received: from smtp2.unibas.ch (smtp2.unibas.ch [131.152.227.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04BB48FC18 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 09:57:09 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,236,1304287200"; d="scan'208";a="135006082" Received: from unknown (HELO [131.152.79.98]) ([131.152.79.98]) by smtp2priv.unibas.ch with ESMTP; 19 May 2011 11:27:31 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hagmann_J=F6rg?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 11:27:31 +0200 Message-Id: <2117A23A-26AC-4F56-8B73-18B88C827E8B@UNIBAS.CH> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: freebsd on shuttle XS35GTV2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 09:57:10 -0000 I am planning to set up a home server and am considering a "Shuttle = XS35GTV2 Barebone" = (http://www.shuttle.eu/products/slim/xs35gtv2/overview/). Does anybody = have experience with FreeBSD on this or a similar computer? Are there = FreeBSD-related things I should be aware of before buying it? (Googling = didn't turn up anything). Thanks for your answer, Joerg= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 11:06:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51FC106564A for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 11:06:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DFB58FC12 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 11:06:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p4JA7lfM021116; Thu, 19 May 2011 05:07:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 05:07:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201105191007.p4JA7laX021115@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jonathan McKeown Cc: Subject: Re: Established method to enable suid scripts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 11:06:34 -0000 On Wed, 11 May 2011 11:59:48 +0200 Jonathan McKeown wrote: >On Wednesday 11 May 2011 04:19:29 Devin Teske wrote: >> >> The reason that the suid bit doesn't work on scripts (shell, perl, or >> otherwise) is because these are essentially text files that are interpreted >> by their associated interpreter. It is the interpreter itself that must be >> suid. > >I'm pretty sure that's not the case, although I'm open to correction. > >The reason the system ignores the suid bit on a script is because of what >would happen when it's executed: > >1) the script is read from a file called and the system notices >that it needs to be interpreted by another program. > >2) that program is launched and told to re-open the file named and >execute its contents with suid privilege. > >The problem is a race condition: there's no guarantee that the filename opened >by the interpreter in step 2 is the same file the user executed in step 1. Yes, that is basically what happened. It was demonstrated under 4.3BSD that a small program needed to do very little to gain privileges when run by a user who had execute access to a suid shell script. The first time the kernel looked at it, the kernel also noted the permissions, including the suid bit. A small program 1) forks a child that loops, creating a symlink to the suid script, removing the symlink, creating a new symlink of the same name but pointing to /bin/sh, removing the symlink again, and repeating, while 2) the parent loops, trying to run the script via the symlink. If the attempt returns, then that means the script actually got run (no security violation). If the attempt instead returns a prompt, # then it means that after the kernel first looked at the file and got the permission bits, the link was changed to point to /bin/sh, which then got run with the suid root permission. (This actually worked for scripts owned by any uid, so the prompt could be $ with the privileges of whatever non-root uid owned the script.) Most people who reported results of trying this at that time said they had a root shell in less than a second, even on slow (for that era) machines. 8-< This problem was publicly announced but not fixed in 4.3BSD. The recommended workaround, instead, was not to have any suid scripts. I do not know when the change was made in the kernel to block suid permission elevation on executable non-binaries (i.e., scripts). Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 12:29:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7ED0106566B for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 12:29:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from mf1.socket.net (mf1.socket.net [216.106.88.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA15B8FC13 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 12:29:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [216.106.88.17]) by mf1.socket.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0169E40424 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 07:15:29 -0500 (CDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jhall@socket.net X-Apparently-from: jhall@mail.socket.net X-Remote-Host: 216.106.31.249 User-Agent: Socket WebMail Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 07:15:28 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20110519122948.E7ED0106566B@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: IPSec with Public IP Addresses only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jhall@socket.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 12:29:49 -0000 Ladies and Gentlemen, I am attempting to connect a FreeBSD server, 8.1-RELEASE to a Juniper J2320 router running the JUNOS operating system. The Juniper router I am connecting to has a public IP address of 1.2.3.4. The provider has not given me a private IP address and has stated it is not needed. The FreeBSD server, has a public IP address of 2.3.4.5 and a private IP address of 6.7.8.9. I am able to create the gif tunnel without any problem. However, the provider I am connecting to has told me there is not a private IP address available for the creation of the private IP tunnel. I will be connecting to private addresses in the 5.6.7.0/24 range on the provider's server. Here is the output of the ifconfig command. gif0: flags=8050 metric 0 mtu 1280 tunnel inet 2.3.4.5 --> 1.2.3.4 options=1 Following are the relevant route table entries. 1.2.3.4/32 2.3.4.5 US 1 798 bge1 5.6.7.0/24 1.2.3.4 UGS 2 192 bge1 Is it possible to connect to the private address on the provider's server without a private IP address? I have done this before, but I have always private IP addresses as well. I do not have racoon running yet. Could this make a difference? Thanks for your help. Jay Hall From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 15:11:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDB81065670 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 15:11:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from hp9.esiee.fr (hp9.esiee.fr [147.215.1.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F898FC14 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 15:11:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by hp9.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F159A14E949D for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 17:11:14 +0200 (CEST) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.3.2 hp9.esiee.fr F159A14E949D DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=esiee.fr; s=MAILOUT; t=1305817875; bh=uDBYtK0Lvck3xLKHb1g1fY3dO1XLHCFSTXvsbB573C0=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=t6r5NyoYrOZLZER/yUCDxwy+ZuXnFbuis5uCZfKP3GdzZJL+eGBAeVd3jXSW7rRps h6UgpJILM5QvCfQhab7H5D5x35YrjnvVK/mYjmmsemWJ+rcmoC5jmqA0mjFN6SLZGd D0Nq2lfwoCQ2fw5HlDG5e/noe9ch/vYoTPnEFbko= Received: from mail (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id E7F14105441D for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 17:11:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [147.215.1.21] (lisa.esiee.fr [147.215.1.21]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30C4105441A for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 17:11:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4DD53323.401@esiee.fr> Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 17:11:31 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110424 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Filenames with French characters cannot be open X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 15:11:33 -0000 Hello I am facing a boring problem. We use a small application to extract some files from a SQL database and copy them to a FreeBSD WEBDAV server ( apache + mod dav ) the problem comes when a filename contains some French characters, it cannot be found by apache here is some error message I get in apache.log [19/May/2011:16:49:05 +0200] "GET /cv/ESIEE_MANAGEMENT/Systeme_information/11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA_Anthony%20Aim%C3%A9e%20Marthe%20Moteh.docx HTTP/1.1" 404 1227 the problem is %C3%A9 character it seems witch is an e with acute accent that appear as an ? in the filename in a terminal Thanks a lot for any info From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 15:12:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6451D106564A for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 15:12:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57668FC22 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 15:12:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so2892150wwc.31 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 08:12:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/WrO9J/D+XwlFRXAgk6KkOxMN3huvBpM6/vWuLbc6Js=; b=V1/VPguqFjfOtcs1YIM+lT65KPZoNpL2M0YfeYGbOjrcwBGN/yKhSUJTy02VQx9ULh DgmyPf3lhBlXHqqx07DkIOH8ZmkymHVQafmTwGiGUTbxS0Sc+tg3y6c4CQGkMIi0wXDC Qf4LJusCe9blIyaVnCkf47mWt8Dq2w74wnd2o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lhiXfUy0KGhG4oOBUcdrp7C+ipMZn6GEKDsAkfY0OQ4qerzxjRxWJfBihjJObFwEw7 haY23CmPBnCCOCAVIRZJQaSm10IbI7paqhweea0p14zWiCsIo1T9TK9VzmDAPGIlXzLX KVSD9sDI3Xtmdg3EsbCqDq6LhS4r5DYpI86/g= Received: by 10.227.184.66 with SMTP id cj2mr3204667wbb.85.1305817951659; Thu, 19 May 2011 08:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] ([2.80.181.143]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y29sm1681503wbd.4.2011.05.19.08.12.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 19 May 2011 08:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DD5335D.9010501@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:12:29 +0100 From: pwnedomina User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: xscreensaver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 15:12:33 -0000 what contents should be placed into /etc/pam.d/xscreensaver ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 16:05:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD1C1065674 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 16:05:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnrp@komkon2.de) Received: from einhorn.in-berlin.de (einhorn.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2BD8FC19 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 16:05:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Envelope-From: gnrp@komkon2.de X-Envelope-To: Received: from adolfputzen (laptopecke.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de [130.149.58.159]) (authenticated bits=0) by einhorn.in-berlin.de (8.13.6/8.13.6/Debian-1) with ESMTP id p4JG5E2r024886 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 18:05:15 +0200 Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 18:05:10 +0200 From: Julian Fagir To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110519180510.4b298b3f@adolfputzen> In-Reply-To: <4DD5335D.9010501@gmail.com> References: <4DD5335D.9010501@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.14.7; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/ij/66h+ARNLKufQswxta2Eh"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang_at_IN-Berlin_e.V. on 192.109.42.8 Subject: Re: xscreensaver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:05:17 -0000 --Sig_/ij/66h+ARNLKufQswxta2Eh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, > what contents should be placed into /etc/pam.d/xscreensaver ? that depends solely on your system's configuration. You should say what your window manager is, how you authenticate, etc. If you have only a single-user system, taking the authentication-part should be sufficient. I don't know about the generic pam-scripts of FreeBSD, but e.g. `grep ^auth /etc/pam.d/login > /etc/pam.d/xscreensaver` could already = do the job. Regards, Julian --Sig_/ij/66h+ARNLKufQswxta2Eh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk3VP7YACgkQc7h7cu1Hpp5DqQCfVIfMLssJ+OaJwkbMZyGBWp/m W9wAn1dgPwMzE6RygPqnm4ffeiY5UMFi =new+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/ij/66h+ARNLKufQswxta2Eh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 16:16:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26790106566B for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 16:16:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51B48FC16 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 16:16:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwk4 with SMTP id 4so5810730wwk.1 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 09:16:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ehlSAzKuHRZqWb+aG7+8HxbxkJGIGDmAr0ti5qaClRs=; b=oh3EC/AiEHtellgwbkWTQg+D5Ayr696CEFAC7gf6xfREGaD6XUYOhrN8/KxnfcRglt Eg42SCxx4DSKiYMI5sVXzDCa6T6RnHxCUQJbwYsMmuVeMOcdy6spBg4PGSWbR/bkLNqw t2kcgT/x9ZnSeVlg2OBthL6iST6m1gVsgIM/o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=b/S4dNRczywVwH5b7kpMueih7+EqY2O24sCdCfhrLlr/gAowlA9iXKkk5qrOCl+l7N jL9Q1Ed9ZxnfyE4l5EpbFCYq9+7/kc1VXbI07taZRqsnpr0UVUvRqKjefXzvWxvc8Nxf YKo60X3nu8ZJo7eZFWnm7BP/HwHrCinMjTCAA= Received: by 10.227.2.81 with SMTP id 17mr3401754wbi.15.1305821804853; Thu, 19 May 2011 09:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] ([2.80.181.143]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w25sm1717480wbd.22.2011.05.19.09.16.42 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 19 May 2011 09:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DD5426C.9020500@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 17:16:44 +0100 From: pwnedomina User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4DD5335D.9010501@gmail.com> <20110519180510.4b298b3f@adolfputzen> In-Reply-To: <20110519180510.4b298b3f@adolfputzen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: xscreensaver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:16:47 -0000 On 19-05-2011 17:05, Julian Fagir wrote: > Hi, > >> what contents should be placed into /etc/pam.d/xscreensaver ? > that depends solely on your system's configuration. > You should say what your window manager is, how you authenticate, etc. > If you have only a single-user system, taking the authentication-part should > be sufficient. I don't know about the generic pam-scripts of FreeBSD, but > e.g. `grep ^auth /etc/pam.d/login> /etc/pam.d/xscreensaver` could already do > the job. > > Regards, Julian my wm is fluxbox.. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 18:46:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AAB4106564A for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 18:46:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30AB68FC15 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 18:46:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gamma.wifi.locolomo.org (gamma.wifi.locolomo.org [172.16.1.5]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 978421C0841; Thu, 19 May 2011 20:46:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4DD5657A.3030008@locolomo.org> Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 20:46:18 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <4DD37DDA.1090107@locolomo.org> <4dd4c55b.y99nUfzO1JLxPrYI%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <8333A2FC-7F31-45FB-AD56-951FA349737F@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <8333A2FC-7F31-45FB-AD56-951FA349737F@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.org Questions" , perryh@pluto.rain.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD compatible mini-itx board X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 18:46:20 -0000 On 19/5/11 7:49 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: > FreeBSD ought to support the 945G chipset and the ICH7 hub; also the RealTek NIC, but the latter isn't the highest quality NIC around. yeah, I'd rather have Intels own NIC dunno why they can't put them on their own boards. Realtek seem to be on all the Intel boards :S At least I'm adding an Intel PCI NIC. >>> Also: The Intel manual mentions: "Support for DDR2 533 MHz SO-DIMMs (DDR2 800 MHz and DDR2 667 MHz validated to run at 533 MHz only)" >>> Will faster RAM result in a less stable system? > > It indicates that they put faster RAM into the box, but ran it at a speed of 533MHz, which is slower than the memory is capable of running. In some cases, doing this lets you run the RAM at lower voltage or with tighter timing settings of CL/tRCD/tTP/etc. Thanks, currently I have, well ancient RAM on an old VIA board and it's not really any reliable. That with the flacky disk controller on the VIA board is my reason to go Intel. > Regards, Thanks, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 18:49:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85056106566C for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 18:49:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout026.mac.com (asmtpout026.mac.com [17.148.16.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC678FC1C for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 18:49:23 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp026.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-20.01 64bit (built Nov 21 2010)) with ESMTPSA id <0LLG00H40ETU4890@asmtp026.mac.com> for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 May 2011 10:49:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-05-19_02:2011-05-19, 2011-05-19, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1105190137 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <4dd4c55b.y99nUfzO1JLxPrYI%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 10:49:06 -0700 Message-id: <8333A2FC-7F31-45FB-AD56-951FA349737F@mac.com> References: <4DD37DDA.1090107@locolomo.org> <4dd4c55b.y99nUfzO1JLxPrYI%perryh@pluto.rain.com> To: perryh@pluto.rain.com, Erik Norgaard X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.org Questions" Subject: Re: FreeBSD compatible mini-itx board X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 18:49:23 -0000 Hi-- [ Perry gave a good answer to the last question; I'll try to hit some of the earlier ones. :-) ] On May 19, 2011, at 12:23 AM, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Erik N?rgaard wrote: >> Mobile Intel 945GSE Express Chipset >> Intel 82945GSE Express Chipset Graphics/Memory Controller Hub >> Intel 82801GBM I/O Controller Hub (ICH7-M) >> Intel GMA950 >> RealTek 8111DL Gigabit Ethernet Controller >> >> Does FBSD support this? FreeBSD ought to support the 945G chipset and the ICH7 hub; also the RealTek NIC, but the latter isn't the highest quality NIC around. >> Also: The Intel manual mentions: "Support for DDR2 533 MHz SO-DIMMs (DDR2 800 MHz and DDR2 667 MHz validated to run at 533 MHz only)" >> >> Will faster RAM result in a less stable system? It indicates that they put faster RAM into the box, but ran it at a speed of 533MHz, which is slower than the memory is capable of running. In some cases, doing this lets you run the RAM at lower voltage or with tighter timing settings of CL/tRCD/tTP/etc. >> ... what is Serial Presence Detect RAM? > > SPD refers to an I2C device mounted on (most) DIMMS, which provides > the BIOS with the DIMM's size and speed properties. Yes. In particular, newer memory uses the SPD to provide multiple timing profiles, which can be used for EPP and XMP for indicating that the RAM has higher performance timings available. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Presence_Detect Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 18:59:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65E41065675 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 18:59:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout030.mac.com (asmtpout030.mac.com [17.148.16.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA768FC15 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 18:59:21 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp030.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-20.01 64bit (built Nov 21 2010)) with ESMTPSA id <0LLG00BC0I2WEM00@asmtp030.mac.com> for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 May 2011 11:59:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-05-19_04:2011-05-19, 2011-05-19, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1105190149 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <4DD5657A.3030008@locolomo.org> Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 11:59:20 -0700 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: References: <4DD37DDA.1090107@locolomo.org> <4dd4c55b.y99nUfzO1JLxPrYI%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <8333A2FC-7F31-45FB-AD56-951FA349737F@mac.com> <4DD5657A.3030008@locolomo.org> To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.org Questions" Subject: Re: FreeBSD compatible mini-itx board X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 18:59:21 -0000 On May 19, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: >> It indicates that they put faster RAM into the box, but ran it at a = speed of 533MHz, which is slower than the memory is capable of running. = In some cases, doing this lets you run the RAM at lower voltage or with = tighter timing settings of CL/tRCD/tTP/etc. >=20 > Thanks, currently I have, well ancient RAM on an old VIA board and = it's not really any reliable. That with the flacky disk controller on = the VIA board is my reason to go Intel. Yeah, I have one of the VIA EPIA M6000 boards, and the IDE controller = gets flaky under load if there is more than one device attached. = Disabling the secondary channel on IRQ 15 helped some.... Regards, --=20 -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 20:30:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F6E106566B for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 20:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A163F8FC1F for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 20:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3437658bwz.13 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 13:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.24.4 with SMTP id t4mr516601bkb.109.1305837001302; Thu, 19 May 2011 13:30:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.72.82 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2011 13:29:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110504181106.4ea5b8e7@scorpio> References: <20110504142626.539c2b6f@scorpio> <4DC1CA49.8060801@onetel.com> <20110504181106.4ea5b8e7@scorpio> From: Chris Brennan Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:29:41 -0400 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: A possibly odd upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 20:30:04 -0000 On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Jerry wrote: Yes, from the man pages it states it will rebuild all packages and their > dependencies. I simply include the "l" so he would have a log file > available if something did go wrong. > > In any case, I thought it might save him some trouble rebuilding his > system. There are some ports; however, that will not build correctly > unless the program is first removed from the system. Obviously not a > friendly concept; however, a reality. The OP would have to remove them > first I suppose before doing a force rebuild. Maybe just doing a > "pkg_delete -adv" would be a better idea. > > Sorry it took me so long to get back to this e-mail, been busy w/ a bunch of stuff lately, but this box is still on my todo list. portupgrade/portmaster don't comeplete due to some bazaar issues that I no longer wish to try and fix. A recent development that I've discovered is that I can no longer compile anything, even as a user, it all just fails and it's one colossal headache I no longer want. If I go the way of pkg_delete -fravd, will it save configs in /usr/local/etc/ ? I just need to know if I need to take the extra step to archive that directory beforehand or not.... I'm just looking at possibilities of saving myself any other potential conf file reconfigurations in the future ... like I know I will need to reinstall samba and I would hate to loose that config and have to rewrite it... -- > A: Yes. > >Q: Are you sure? > >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 20:40:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E970106564A for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 20:40:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C271E8FC15 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 20:40:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD4E29633; Thu, 19 May 2011 22:40:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p4JKenP8004314; Thu, 19 May 2011 22:40:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 22:40:49 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chris Brennan Message-Id: <20110519224049.a97c15fa.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20110504142626.539c2b6f@scorpio> <4DC1CA49.8060801@onetel.com> <20110504181106.4ea5b8e7@scorpio> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: A possibly odd upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 20:40:52 -0000 On Thu, 19 May 2011 16:29:41 -0400, Chris Brennan wrote: > If I go the way of pkg_delete -fravd, will it save configs in > /usr/local/etc/ ? I just need to know if I need to take the extra step to > archive that directory beforehand or not.... I would advice to do so, no matter what the pkg_delete command will cause. If I remember correctly, MODYFIED files will not be touched (checksum test), and a directory won't be removed if it contains something that won't be deleted according to the initial "packing list". So if anything unexpected happens - you can consult your "before" configuration files to change the "after" ones, or simply re-use them if possible. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 20:47:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124001065673 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 20:47:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com (mail-bw0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AA88FC12 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 20:47:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz13 with SMTP id 13so4094701bwz.17 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 13:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.19.10 with SMTP id y10mr3244678bka.190.1305838066219; Thu, 19 May 2011 13:47:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.72.82 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2011 13:47:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110519224049.a97c15fa.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20110504142626.539c2b6f@scorpio> <4DC1CA49.8060801@onetel.com> <20110504181106.4ea5b8e7@scorpio> <20110519224049.a97c15fa.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Chris Brennan Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:47:26 -0400 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: A possibly odd upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 20:47:48 -0000 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Polytropon wrote: I would advice to do so, no matter what the pkg_delete > command will cause. If I remember correctly, MODYFIED > files will not be touched (checksum test), and a directory > won't be removed if it contains something that won't > be deleted according to the initial "packing list". > > So if anything unexpected happens - you can consult your > "before" configuration files to change the "after" ones, > or simply re-use them if possible. Thanks for getting back to me so quick on this :D. That was pretty much what I needed to know, so I shall embark on this shortly. After much thought, I think my process would be this: chsh back to bin/sh (I currently use bash as my primary shell) logout back in for shell change pkg_delete -fravd get new base srcs portsnap (re)install desired tools (vim mostly, although I can function in vi) rebuild world/kernel for new version rebuild new tools for new libs am I forgetting something? -- > A: Yes. > >Q: Are you sure? > >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 21:04:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866A61065674 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 21:04:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426278FC13 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 21:04:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A5F3CE00; Thu, 19 May 2011 23:04:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p4JL42FG004386; Thu, 19 May 2011 23:04:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 23:04:02 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chris Brennan Message-Id: <20110519230402.faa010bd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20110504142626.539c2b6f@scorpio> <4DC1CA49.8060801@onetel.com> <20110504181106.4ea5b8e7@scorpio> <20110519224049.a97c15fa.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: A possibly odd upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 21:04:05 -0000 On Thu, 19 May 2011 16:47:26 -0400, Chris Brennan wrote: > After much thought, I think my process would be this: > > chsh back to bin/sh (I currently use bash as my primary shell) > logout back in for shell change > pkg_delete -fravd > get new base srcs > portsnap > (re)install desired tools (vim mostly, although I can function in vi) > rebuild world/kernel for new version > rebuild new tools for new libs > > am I forgetting something? Yes, the recommended order. :-) First, update your ports/ and src/ trees (e. g. using portsnap and csup), then compile and install. You don't need any tools provided by ports for this task. After you've started your "new" system, install the additional software you need. Mentioning the shell was good: In case you remove bash from the system, it may cause trouble when a shell is requested for a user that is not there (the shell), as bash is not part of the base system. Still it seems that you'll do most of the work mentioned in the above paragraph as root, you will use root's default shell (which is csh) anyway. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 21:30:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A101065673 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 21:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCEC8FC13 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 21:30:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so1386356gxk.13 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 14:30:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Rv/kfBAxxxUn5gE8orUQgzt9/NFwnwuKZd15J/6+yKM=; b=echOLH3+S6ADyj7j+mhKDfZTlaZc81S0tKDQfspun4bpyNMGyv7MmndX6szdR8V2Bv p3bFXiMu1tf+8+7PBxdYkmH0i2KscOsJE71d/IcWhnJtB8lLHeAXaMhhoPXdfJGHFDZu YH3wiyEbgCcB+ybxYpDFYinNu5JE70QY36tvQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=lmD16QO0yb675izBhTfzI8PFIroOGTszaHoPw3EndYRd8vTf+wub4P+pF4SEXMZ8Ik dVnPjF8VTOZFmOUFOxIErFTQbdNqcaeoPygK8Aj4cx3Y1lgdCjIRkG2hAUhzhOQl6Wgt Q1CVu7hEensgSHlP/5CpA8PxX1L5ZQB6Bh0l0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.183.2 with SMTP id k2mr2210168anp.7.1305840619576; Thu, 19 May 2011 14:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.48.6 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2011 14:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 17:30:19 -0400 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: SSD drive not recognized X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 21:30:20 -0000 I recently upgraded a hard drive to an SSD drive. Initially I bought a cheap(er) Microcenter house branded SATA II drive (after looking around online it turns out it is really an A-Data that was rebranded). It was recognized by the BIOS, but not by FreeBSD. I decided to return it and try a name brand (OCZ Vertex 2, 60GB) with the same results. The system is 8.2-RELEASE and this is a fresh install. The motherboard (ASRock K8Upgrade-NF3, nForce3 250 chipset) is only SATA, not SATA II, but it has another SATA II drive (not SSD) that is recognized just fine even without the jumper set to force it to SATA. So, I don't think it is a problem with the drive negotiating down to SATA, otherwise I don't think the BIOS would recognize it at all. What is the best way to figure out why FreeBSD does not recognize the drive? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 01:47:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB19106566C for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 01:47:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xnooby@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDEDD8FC0C for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 01:47:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3655891bwz.13 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 18:47:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=YI5toI1dRvxBlBLrbDovpNIGYmUgKlm4Yl1zyyPViWc=; b=TdnSCUzmr3qnvoZhSD/GGeRfJeAMKkNr8D7lJPe1j0jz0LE8BUvdfbnrxXArse6GRp abNdHReJ3HfT3OhB7A5QjdIEgfV/yu7wxwFj6koGc+5JG2/+g7z3AR05dN2HpeO2biBq C8ybyIB5l3DgUNxQz3B4ojIlmQq/gyfzl0/J8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=O1I67P/Rzl+hZfsI24jyaV1DJOJr2ClfTxUM/YlGgChcReWHOybJ17Izl/HVYpUF+9 DNJwmXohv4OkxsksTBCtcWYa+LX5I4+XSQWaXOsz2Bc37vhPswNhWC5WvP/5VMArZ+CS +ohDTywoH0pnbQF1vCLCflTIz7IkirkQLtw1Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.145.18 with SMTP id b18mr3453896bkv.26.1305854582328; Thu, 19 May 2011 18:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.25.78 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2011 18:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 21:23:02 -0400 Message-ID: From: Xn Nooby To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Over-whelmed by ports and package tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 01:47:09 -0000 It is hard for me to tell what tools I should be using to work with ports and packages. I was trying to set up a 64bit 8.2 machine as a desktop environment, with Firefox 4 and Flash installed. It looked like I was going to need to track the 8.x stable branch in order to get a Firefox package, and I was having some problems pinning down which version of Flash I should use (they have a new version since 8l2 was released). I decided to stop and just make sure I understood how I was supposed to be working with ports and packages. I've have been reading about cvsup, freebsd-update, portsnap, portupgrade, and portmaster. In general, I think I would like to use packages when possible, since I expect to be doing some installs on low-powered machines (my old laptops). I don't want to build everything from the ports tree (unless I have to). I know that I can set the environment variable PACKAGESITE in order to get packages from 8.x instead of 8.2, and the packages would at worst be a month old. I have also read portupgrade can be used to upgrade ports (obvious enough). What I have not really seen yet, is an explanation of when you might want to use the different tools. I have read some tools don't need certain other things installed, but I don't know why that is significant. Perhaps some of the tools are only used in rare situations, and I don't need to consider using them. I also don't know how mutually exclusive they are. I am working on a script to automatically load up all the software I want on my desktop, below are some of the sub-routines that show what I am trying to do. I think the script worked when 8.2 was new, but things seemed to have changed and it no longer works so well. I want to make it change-proof. loadPorts() { echo loadPorts... freebsd-update fetch install portsnap fetch extract } loadFF() { echo loadFF... pkg_add -r firefox echo 'sem_load="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf } loadApps() { echo loadApps... apps="bash unzip p7zip vlc xmms subversion mplayer openbox icewm cmdwatch xfe miro filezilla" for x in $apps do pkg_add -r $x done } loadFonts() { echo loadFonts... cd /usr/ports/x11-fonts/webfonts make install clean pkg_add -r dejavu cd sed ' /Section "Module"/ a\ Load "freetype"\ Load "type1" ' /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.sed cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.sed /etc/X11/xorg.conf sed ' /Section "Files"/ a\ FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/webfonts/"\ FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/dejavu/" ' /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.sed cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.sed /etc/X11/xorg.conf fc-cache -f -v } loadFlash() { echo loadFlash... kldload linux pkg_add -r linux_base-f10 echo 'linux_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf echo 'linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0' >> /etc/fstab mount -a pkg_add -r nspluginwrapper cd /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 mkdir -p /usr/ports/distfiles/flashplugin/10.1r53 scp me@192.168.200.2:install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz /usr/ports/distfiles/flashplugin/10.1r53/ make install clean cd mkdir /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/ # read -p "pausing" rehash } From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 01:58:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE918106564A for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 01:58:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4C98FC13 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 01:58:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3662004bwz.13 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 18:58:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.20.147 with SMTP id f19mr3440781bkb.163.1305856713185; Thu, 19 May 2011 18:58:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.72.82 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2011 18:58:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110519230402.faa010bd.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20110504142626.539c2b6f@scorpio> <4DC1CA49.8060801@onetel.com> <20110504181106.4ea5b8e7@scorpio> <20110519224049.a97c15fa.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110519230402.faa010bd.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Chris Brennan Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 21:58:13 -0400 Message-ID: To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: A possibly odd upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 01:58:34 -0000 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Polytropon wrote: Yes, the recommended order. :-) > > First, update your ports/ and src/ trees (e. g. using portsnap > and csup), then compile and install. You don't need any tools > provided by ports for this task. After you've started your > "new" system, install the additional software you need. > > Mentioning the shell was good: In case you remove bash from > the system, it may cause trouble when a shell is requested > for a user that is not there (the shell), as bash is not part > of the base system. Still it seems that you'll do most of > the work mentioned in the above paragraph as root, you will > use root's default shell (which is csh) anyway. > One last question ... hopefully lol. am I going to run into any issues w/ the default fbsd6 layout? [root@Ziggy [~]# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 496M 328M 128M 72% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/ad0s1e 496M 234K 456M 0% /tmp /dev/ad0s1f 33G 5.7G 25G 19% /usr /dev/ad0s1d 1.3G 1.0G 226M 82% /var /dev/ad1s1d 54G 8.9G 41G 18% /usr/home /dev/ad6s1 74G 61G 13G 82% /mnt/music linprocfs 4.0K 4.0K 0B 100% /usr/compat/linux/proc [root@Ziggy [~]# What I think I failed to previously mention is that this machine started out with fbsd6.x, was upgraded many times from 6x though 7.1 where it fell into disuse. With my recent repurpose of this box ... I'm concerned that it might be a moot point if base won't fit on rot root slice. -- > A: Yes. > >Q: Are you sure? > >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 02:06:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80EBB106566C for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 02:06:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C638FC0A for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 02:06:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so3656847iyj.13 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 19:06:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.181.98 with SMTP id bx34mr2711814ibb.161.1305857196622; Thu, 19 May 2011 19:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.13.139 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2011 19:06:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 22:06:36 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: TbYXSa-qyYtlhCYkYL71JEKEu8I Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Xn Nooby Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Over-whelmed by ports and package tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 02:06:37 -0000 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Xn Nooby wrote: > It is hard for me to tell what tools I should be using to work with > ports and packages. =A0I was trying to set up a 64bit 8.2 machine as a > desktop environment, with Firefox 4 and Flash installed. =A0It looked > like I was going to need to track the 8.x stable branch in order to > get a Firefox package, and I was having some problems pinning down > which version of Flash I should use (they have a new version since 8l2 Great question. The is no best prctice as such and it mostly depends on your use of FreeBSD. If it's a workstation you probably want to install most things via binary packages instead of ports. FreeBSD is so amazing that it does not matter which way you install them, the pkg database will not care. You can add a package and the remove by port and vice-versa. cvsup and all that is mostly used nowadays by mere mortals for building the world and upgrading. if you are going to use FreeBSD as a server you arel probably be better off compiling everything to your exact needs. Precompiled binary packages are built with standard default options: i.e. probably either over-bloated with unnecessary features and security holes, or other times lack the functionality you will require. I would personally never compile Gnome, Open Office and these great big packages for several reasons but primarily because it's a waste of time, and the default compilation options are usually good for the average use. Also, please take a look at PC BSD which derives directly from FreeBSD but it's targeted for the PC/Workstation/laptop world. It's somewhat akin to Ubuntu and Debian. I think PC BSD is great for workstation use whereas FreeBSD is great for servers. I use FreeBSD for both but use binary packages for the big fat GUI applications and compile everything else. Best, -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 02:08:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F94106566B for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 02:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAFA78FC0A for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 02:08:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so3658180iyj.13 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 19:08:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.187.89 with SMTP id cv25mr2879043ibb.111.1305857315192; Thu, 19 May 2011 19:08:35 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.13.139 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2011 19:08:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 22:08:35 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 37_-U9dwSu2U618INUZ5_hqmohQ Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Xn Nooby Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Over-whelmed by ports and package tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 02:08:35 -0000 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Xn Nooby wrote: >> It is hard for me to tell what tools I should be using to work with [..] > and vice-versa. cvsup and all that is mostly used nowadays by mere > mortals for building the world and upgrading. > Also try to go with portsnap for ports IMHO it's the path of least resistance ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 03:12:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F702106564A for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 03:12:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4531F8FC12 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 03:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2BE771 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 23:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 23:12:24 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <125F339D78430FE5E910981A@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: SSD drive not recognized X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 03:12:25 -0000 --As of May 19, 2011 5:30:19 PM -0400, Robert Simmons is alleged to have said: > I recently upgraded a hard drive to an SSD drive. Initially I bought > a cheap(er) Microcenter house branded SATA II drive (after looking > around online it turns out it is really an A-Data that was rebranded). > It was recognized by the BIOS, but not by FreeBSD. I decided to > return it and try a name brand (OCZ Vertex 2, 60GB) with the same > results. The system is 8.2-RELEASE and this is a fresh install. > > The motherboard (ASRock K8Upgrade-NF3, nForce3 250 chipset) is only > SATA, not SATA II, but it has another SATA II drive (not SSD) that is > recognized just fine even without the jumper set to force it to SATA. > So, I don't think it is a problem with the drive negotiating down to > SATA, otherwise I don't think the BIOS would recognize it at all. > > What is the best way to figure out why FreeBSD does not recognize the > drive? --As for the rest, it is mine. Well, the traditional first start would be a dmesg. I'm not sure if there is any possible reason why a SATA II drive might not work on a SATA I interface, but I suppose it's a possibility. A good regular HD can fill a SATA I interface, so it could be possible that they never expected an SSD to be attached to one. Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. 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To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: grarpamp Subject: Re: UDF and DVD's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 05:32:08 -0000 grarpamp wrote: ... > I'm guessing the current state within FreeBSD means that I can > neither read, nor create, or write, readable (compatible) images > at this, or any given, UDF level? ... > > Is this a blocker for FreeBSD? > > For me, at least, minimally, that seems to be the case... as I now > have no way to rip, mount and add the files to this DVD that I would > like to add. Except to use Windows, which I consider to be unreliable > at best. Obviously, the base system UDF support is minimal and needs some work. But you may find that ports like sysutils/cdrtools[-devel] or sysutils/udfclient will allow you to do much of what you want to do. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 08:42:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C84A106564A; Fri, 20 May 2011 08:42:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD598FC16; Fri, 20 May 2011 08:42:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj8 with SMTP id 8so2076366pwj.13 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 01:42:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=3COreA6r/gy3USqKbuADG1H/LNZh2ZVZkMbijgM34xs=; b=TofCb5dlSkRqQMxsHuYbSiesC60WzYyPrV5XvCRCY8gfCCp1hLu4XS/WcKnJA1tM4X IBgLepZdp8/dwNjIOcChs4N4anCU3015t99cWmsd2C0OHeWq22usXVu9W0yTT6S97teG +BV11DfuPezATJqfY2ERhlXJuz1i01blme6UU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=IhAVzTnh13UQmoDotpBw05RrYazhN3iB94n4MN9aU7Y0uZSytdZD21L0pcqxGuv/wD kjbGR6Hepu6gNW+P6K5dRu6eC21ZQMUT0O+kEYzZgu3HzyGSVLCRZSdQNzR79zw48jyh y5GPLdZrJS4rUcpHobrEj5cDLIjRKA7g2q02Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.230.6 with SMTP id c6mr2585560wfh.415.1305880973697; Fri, 20 May 2011 01:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.157.2 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2011 01:42:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110519091433.GA94053@icarus.home.lan> References: <20110519091433.GA94053@icarus.home.lan> Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 04:42:53 -0400 Message-ID: From: grarpamp To: Jeremy Chadwick Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UDF and DVD's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 08:42:54 -0000 > Thoughts: please provide commands, full output, etc. that show how > you're trying to mount the disc, as well as relevant /dev entries > pertaining to your DVD drive. dmesg might also be helpful. And I > assume you have looked at mount_udf(8)? Apologies, it is late. However I used only the obvious. Hopefully obviously, my DVD drive is irrelevant in this case... mdconfig -f -o readonly mount_cd9660 -v -o ro /mnt ls -alR /mnt [*not* 2.5GiB of files, but...] cat /mnt/readme.txt This disc contains a "UDF" file system and requires an operating system that supports the ISO-13346 "UDF" file system specification. umount -v /mnt mount_udf -v -o ro /mnt mount_udf: /dev/md[n]: Invalid argument [md dev is not mounted on /mnt] I think it's related to the UDF version of the image. As anyone can verify using my said images found on the internet, Perhaps it begs for a NetBSD port? I tested with: RELENG_8 i386. BTW, mdconfig is also broken in that it should take arguments regardless of position, but it does not. IE: try transposing -d and -u, or -o. = failure to execute. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 08:47:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B081065670; Fri, 20 May 2011 08:47:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f176.google.com (mail-px0-f176.google.com [209.85.212.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B118FC0A; Fri, 20 May 2011 08:47:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi11 with SMTP id 11so2855633pxi.7 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 01:47:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=blirRTQCZDD6c1UGFgvOxQW4gvPoZVsdDCV4Gsm7AgU=; b=tWUFD3NBDGpWpf0hCcX75uN2DFFBOP5kv1rc1xIPhDX3sLcUM4JNQq8Ssghkm+zYcj 5oR8qH9GVrjTlBu3k5YaCmOPdBa3o1fHxIxJosEyql3gIiKXLa9KVrkEntum8y3AHSEe LvAkHP1hsRzv7W3pNAvzxJcJYy7W69Xo+7j1E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=oXER/+4mOQC/cqQe85TJ7XrgW2hH9k44xDAi9elKhF8EXRKqZRyO/b+l+GSR1MIKxz gmB5kLQtdO1bQyjjjwqlTpWm4lbefEE0hc9prT+cDVLNiE3rJCaHzBAw6hqqBU8zn2Fm 1f0yxWrG/0z31OL9fxc0xKYw4Ub1ND649qxM4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.249.34 with SMTP id w34mr2435874wfh.301.1305881237993; Fri, 20 May 2011 01:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.157.2 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2011 01:47:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 04:47:17 -0400 Message-ID: From: grarpamp To: bf1783@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UDF and DVD's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 08:47:18 -0000 > Obviously, the base system UDF support is minimal and needs some work. > But you may find that ports like sysutils/cdrtools[-devel] or > sysutils/udfclient will allow you to do much of what you want to do. Hmm. perhaps I may be able to create and burn [both modes occurring in userland] with cdrtools. But certainly not to read or write in kernel mode yet AFAICT. I'll investigate udfclient, that is new to me as a userland tool. I was hoping for kernel level compatibility. As are, I suspect, we all :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 09:48:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7DE106566B for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 09:48:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from universite@ukr.net) Received: from otrada.od.ua (universite-1-pt.tunnel.tserv24.sto1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:27:140::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B198FC1C for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 09:47:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:28:140:24f5:b4af:c57c:abfe] ([IPv6:2001:470:28:140:24f5:b4af:c57c:abfe]) (authenticated bits=0) by otrada.od.ua (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p4K9ltup009464 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 12:47:55 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from universite@ukr.net) Message-ID: <4DD638C1.7080007@ukr.net> Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 12:47:45 +0300 From: "Vladislav V. Prodan" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; ru; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-95.5 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,FSL_RU_URL, RDNS_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mary-teresa.otrada.od.ua X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (otrada.od.ua [IPv6:2001:470:28:140::5]); Fri, 20 May 2011 12:47:58 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Tell a minimum requirement for RAM for virtual machines (virtualbox) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 09:48:00 -0000 Tell choice OS (8.2, 8.2-CURRENT or 9.0-CURRENT, FS (UFS or ZFS) and the minimum amount of RAM for use in such schemes: 1) the interaction of multiple routers with established quagga (bgpv4, bgpv6, ospf) 2) the work of two different modes of MYSQL replication servers/clusters. 3) backup zfs partitions/snapshots to a remote server Host machine - win7 64x with 6 GB of RAM Thank you for your advice. -- Vladislav V. Prodan VVP24-UANIC +380[67]4584408 +380[99]4060508 vlad11@jabber.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 10:19:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1709C106566C for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 10:19:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777488FC1C for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 10:19:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)); Fri, 20 May 2011 12:09:43 +0200 Message-ID: <4DD63DE7.6070900@ose.nl> Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 12:09:43 +0200 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110424 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110504142626.539c2b6f@scorpio> <4DC1CA49.8060801@onetel.com> <20110504181106.4ea5b8e7@scorpio> <20110519224049.a97c15fa.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110519230402.faa010bd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: xaero@xaerolimit.net Subject: Re: A possibly odd upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:19:50 -0000 On 05/20/2011 03=3A58 AM=2C Chris Brennan wrote=3A =3E On Thu=2C May 19=2C 2011 at 5=3A04 PM=2C Polytropon =3Cfreebsd=40edvax= =2Ede=3E wrote=3A =3E =3E Yes=2C the recommended order=2E =3A-=29 =3E One last question =2E=2E=2E hopefully lol=2E am I going to run into any= issues w/ =3E the default fbsd6 layout=3F =3E =3E =5Broot=40Ziggy =5B=7E=5D=23 df -h =3E Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on =3E /dev/ad0s1a 496M 328M 128M 72=25 / =3E devfs 1=2E0K 1=2E0K 0B 100=25 /dev =3E /dev/ad0s1e 496M 234K 456M 0=25 /tmp =3E /dev/ad0s1f 33G 5=2E7G 25G 19=25 /usr =3E /dev/ad0s1d 1=2E3G 1=2E0G 226M 82=25 /var =3E /dev/ad1s1d 54G 8=2E9G 41G 18=25 /usr/home =3E /dev/ad6s1 74G 61G 13G 82=25 /mnt/music =3E linprocfs 4=2E0K 4=2E0K 0B 100=25 /usr/compat/linux/p= roc =3E =5Broot=40Ziggy =5B=7E=5D=23 =3E =3E What I think I failed to previously mention is that this machine starte= d out =3E with fbsd6=2Ex=2C was upgraded many times from 6x though 7=2E1 where it= fell into =3E disuse=2E With my recent repurpose of this box =2E=2E=2E I=27m concerne= d that it might =3E be a moot point if base won=27t fit on rot root slice=2E =3E It can fit=2C however don=27t build the kernel with debug symbols and move= or remove the current debug symbol files of your kernel=2E See below=2C our development box=2E It has GENERIC with debug symbol files= =2C a kernel=2Eold and a kernel without debug symbols on /boot which is on the /= partition FreeBSD dev=2Eose=2Enl 7=2E4-RELEASE FreeBSD 7=2E4-RELEASE =230=3A Fri Mar= 18 23=3A05=3A18 CET 2011 Freebee=40dev=2Eose=2Enl=3A/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DEV amd64 dev=3A/home/Freebee =23df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1a 496M 295M 162M 65=25 / devfs 1=2E0K 1=2E0K 0B 100=25 /dev /dev/da0s1e 7=2E7G 642K 7=2E1G 0=25 /tmp /dev/da0s1f 135G 46G 78G 37=25 /usr /dev/da0s1d 7=2E7G 1=2E1G 6=2E0G 16=25 /var --=20 Systeembeheerder OverNite Software Europe BV Dr=2E Nolenslaan 157 6136 GM Sittard THE NETHERLANDS =20 phone=3A +31464200933 fax=3A +31464200934 web=3A http=3A//www=2Eose=2Enl DISCLAIMER=3A This e-mail is for the intended recipient=28s=29 only=2E Acce= ss=2C disclosure=2C copying=2C distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited=2E If yo= u have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system= =2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 12:51:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1287106566C for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 12:51:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@g8kbv.demon.co.uk) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90A38FC13 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 12:51:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.225.127.49] (helo=[192.168.42.12]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtpa (AUTH g8kbv) (Exim 4.69) id 1QNOnE-0002BP-Zy for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 May 2011 12:27:00 +0000 From: "Dave" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 13:26:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4DD65E13.23005.2766801A@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.61) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Re: FreeBSD compatible mini-itx board X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 12:51:19 -0000 On 19 May 2011 at 11:59, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On May 19, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: > >> It indicates that they put faster RAM into the box, but ran it at a > >> speed of 533MHz, which is slower than the memory is capable of > >> running. In some cases, doing this lets you run the RAM at lower > >> voltage or with tighter timing settings of CL/tRCD/tTP/etc. > > > > Thanks, currently I have, well ancient RAM on an old VIA board and > > it's not really any reliable. That with the flacky disk controller on > > the VIA board is my reason to go Intel. > > Yeah, I have one of the VIA EPIA M6000 boards, and the IDE controller > gets flaky under load if there is more than one device attached. > Disabling the secondary channel on IRQ 15 helped some.... > > Regards, > -- > -Chuck > With VIA mobo's any older than about 3 years, check the condition of all the 1000uF/6.3V electrolytic caps scattered about the place. Any bulging, or showning brown crusty stuff (leakage) replace them. Bad power rail decpoupling can cripple a system but present itself as one particular subsystem acting up under specific conditions. They don't fix themselves, they only get worse. Regards. DaveB. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 14:13:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA16106566C for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 14:13:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A38B8FC12 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 14:13:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (pD9FBF451.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.244.81]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p4KED0Q1006622; Fri, 20 May 2011 14:13:01 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p4KECtPL079476; Fri, 20 May 2011 16:12:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p4KECZUO078750; Fri, 20 May 2011 16:12:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201105201412.p4KECZUO078750@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Gary Kline From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 18 May 2011 12:10:01 PDT." <20110518191001.GA22364@thought.org> Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 16:12:35 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Dan Nelson , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Expanding tabs (was Re: kwik way?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 14:13:15 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: Gary Kline > Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 12:10:01 -0700 > Message-id: <20110518191001.GA22364@thought.org> Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 01:09:36PM -0500, Dan Nelson wrote: > > Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 13:09:36 -0500 > > From: Dan Nelson > > Subject: Re: Expanding tabs (was Re: kwik way?) > > To: Gary Kline > > Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List > > > > In the last episode (May 18), Gary Kline said: > > > should i use tr or sed to turn "\t" into " "? --i.e., tabs into spaces. > > > > tr or expand (depending on whether you want to honor the intent of the tab > > or not). sed is overkill. > > > yeah, agree. i grabbed an old `for k in *;do' script and used tr on > 80+ files. [facing reality, i'm throwing in the towel on hacking. > wanted something easy!] http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/jhs/bin/public/tab/tab.c & tab.1 & Makefile works on the assumption of 8,16 etc, not other minorities eg ts=4 Mature code 1988 till now. Hasn't burnt me yet. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, Not HTML, Not base 64. Reply below text sections not at top, to avoid breaking cumulative context. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 14:22:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FD51065670 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 14:22:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00D88FC15 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 14:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE3A39FCE; Fri, 20 May 2011 16:18:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p4KEIv6x001549; Fri, 20 May 2011 16:18:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 16:18:57 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chris Brennan Message-Id: <20110520161857.55b4cc8c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20110504142626.539c2b6f@scorpio> <4DC1CA49.8060801@onetel.com> <20110504181106.4ea5b8e7@scorpio> <20110519224049.a97c15fa.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110519230402.faa010bd.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: A possibly odd upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 14:22:52 -0000 On Thu, 19 May 2011 21:58:13 -0400, Chris Brennan wrote: > One last question ... hopefully lol. am I going to run into any issues w/ > the default fbsd6 layout? > > [root@Ziggy [~]# df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad0s1a 496M 328M 128M 72% / Maybe not so good (as a default) as soon as you're going to compile kernels for 8.x, where a / size of 1G would be better (although you can even get a FreeBSD / partition fully functional in < 500 MB). The rest of the df output looks normal. > What I think I failed to previously mention is that this machine started out > with fbsd6.x, was upgraded many times from 6x though 7.1 where it fell into > disuse. With my recent repurpose of this box ... I'm concerned that it might > be a moot point if base won't fit on rot root slice. In this case, you should switch off all debugging for the kernel, and maybe even omit the backup kernel.OLD mechanism. But attention! This can be dangerous! Still you have the option to boot from a live system (Fixit should be enough) to manually make a backup copy of the running kernel, and in case anything fails at boot stage, use the live sytem to re-"install" the old kernel. But in fact, this should not be required. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 14:26:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05AC0106566B for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 14:26:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xnooby@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5C38FC0C for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 14:26:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so4240193bwz.13 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 07:26:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=zKkx1qiDplX7KryoeRJ3iGAV2xPGoNAlLh3I7TjFgas=; b=CsHPYG2/VRkcaygR7kBRqBDnm/fKp/p15AO9LDP1z4DjoVUw44/xQcIWsO3YxDCWuH Dn66MV9TfSb5S796qkmnj3qdpMxy1HY+iupoGXGljeq0O1KVpKaiSBij8iH6+qajAhLI FwAnpwtXSOSoI3OvUMNS0LY4X012QdxHpJsf8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=E0/+nBlnHXnAggG9+riAatKYBHbLjvjlJQy0fZJPxBkDnarSNCFTU+sSZmSXu3+Fmn 3ahxIat0dmrsGAFj8kZ6P2NIOswrpLc4sX/GbVIkmXXer4/yifxaKKl9CzfV7FRn4VjU sLMfdu6GOOtz61JOhxf/fk5j38i6jq1+mokEA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.141.12 with SMTP id k12mr917294bku.44.1305901572249; Fri, 20 May 2011 07:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.25.78 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2011 07:26:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:26:11 -0400 Message-ID: From: Xn Nooby To: Alejandro Imass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Over-whelmed by ports and package tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 14:26:14 -0000 > Also try to go with portsnap for ports IMHO it's the path of least > resistance ;-) I will try portsnap, and read about the pkgdb database. If all these tools ultimately resolve to pkgdb, I will try to learn about that. I have tried PC-BSD, and look forward to version 9.0. I really don't like KDE, though. I hear some rumblings about a Gnome developer wanting to drop BSD support, so maybe I better start liking KDE. PC-BSD seems to have done a great job reproducing the way Mac's install software, by using self-contained bundles (PBI's). And next version of PBI is supposed to not need a GUI. I'm sure I will be trying the next version PC-BSD. Hopefully to be released soon. thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 14:26:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A4C10657DD for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 14:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F518FC14 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 14:26:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bw0-f54.google.com with SMTP id 12so4240193bwz.13 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 07:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.164.2 with SMTP id c2mr4097545bky.85.1305901581244; Fri, 20 May 2011 07:26:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.72.82 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2011 07:26:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110520161857.55b4cc8c.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20110504142626.539c2b6f@scorpio> <4DC1CA49.8060801@onetel.com> <20110504181106.4ea5b8e7@scorpio> <20110519224049.a97c15fa.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110519230402.faa010bd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110520161857.55b4cc8c.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Chris Brennan Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:26:01 -0400 Message-ID: To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: A possibly odd upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 14:26:22 -0000 On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 19 May 2011 21:58:13 -0400, Chris Brennan > wrote: > > One last question ... hopefully lol. am I going to run into any issues w/ > > the default fbsd6 layout? > > > > [root@Ziggy [~]# df -h > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > > /dev/ad0s1a 496M 328M 128M 72% / > > Maybe not so good (as a default) as soon as you're going > to compile kernels for 8.x, where a / size of 1G would > be better (although you can even get a FreeBSD / partition > fully functional in < 500 MB). > > The rest of the df output looks normal. > > > > > What I think I failed to previously mention is that this machine started > out > > with fbsd6.x, was upgraded many times from 6x though 7.1 where it fell > into > > disuse. With my recent repurpose of this box ... I'm concerned that it > might > > be a moot point if base won't fit on rot root slice. > > In this case, you should switch off all debugging for the > kernel, and maybe even omit the backup kernel.OLD mechanism. > But attention! This can be dangerous! Still you have the > option to boot from a live system (Fixit should be enough) > to manually make a backup copy of the running kernel, and > in case anything fails at boot stage, use the live sytem > to re-"install" the old kernel. But in fact, this should > not be required. OK, I am off now to research how to build the kernel w/o debugging symbols ... then I shall embark on this. -- > A: Yes. > >Q: Are you sure? > >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 14:40:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A42106566B for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 14:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B668FC1D for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 14:40:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941201E367; Fri, 20 May 2011 16:40:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p4KEeOrA001604; Fri, 20 May 2011 16:40:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 16:40:24 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Bas Smeelen Message-Id: <20110520164024.f76e67bc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4DD63DE7.6070900@ose.nl> References: <20110504142626.539c2b6f@scorpio> <4DC1CA49.8060801@onetel.com> <20110504181106.4ea5b8e7@scorpio> <20110519224049.a97c15fa.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110519230402.faa010bd.freebsd@edvax.de> <4DD63DE7.6070900@ose.nl> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, xaero@xaerolimit.net Subject: Re: A possibly odd upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 14:40:27 -0000 On Fri, 20 May 2011 12:09:43 +0200, Bas Smeelen wrote: > It can fit, however don't build the kernel with debug symbols and move or > remove the current debug symbol files of your kernel. > > See below, our development box. It has GENERIC with debug symbol files, a > kernel.old and a kernel without debug symbols on /boot which is on the / > partition > > FreeBSD dev.ose.nl 7.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE #0: Fri Mar 18 23:05:18 > CET 2011 Freebee@dev.ose.nl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DEV amd64 > dev:/home/Freebee #df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/da0s1a 496M 295M 162M 65% / Similar here, 7-STABLE (home desktop), system still contains default kernel and a backup, but without debugging info. % df -h / Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 496M 336M 120M 74% / % du -hs /boot/kernel* 30M /boot/kernel 112M /boot/kernel.GENERIC-7.0-RELEASE 29M /boot/kernel.RVS 29M /boot/kernel.old However, I think increasing the default size to 1GB for / would be a nice addition for the next release (at least for 9.0), or default sizes could be percentages of the available slice or disk space. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 14:46:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4238106566B for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 14:46:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C978FC16 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 14:46:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so4354542iwn.13 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 07:46:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.193.233 with SMTP id dv41mr3139500ibb.186.1305902793951; Fri, 20 May 2011 07:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.13.139 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2011 07:46:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:46:33 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: NM9IMUP1KEP21F4ibSphYuoHVbI Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Xn Nooby Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Over-whelmed by ports and package tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 14:46:34 -0000 On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Xn Nooby wrote: >> Also try to go with portsnap for ports IMHO it's the path of least >> resistance ;-) > > I will try portsnap, and read about the pkgdb database. =A0If all these > tools ultimately resolve to pkgdb, I will try to learn about that. > > I have tried PC-BSD, and look forward to version 9.0. =A0I really don't > like KDE, though. =A0I hear some rumblings about a Gnome developer Jajajaja. THAT IS EXACTLY why I don't use PC-BSD ! > wanting to drop BSD support, so maybe I better start liking KDE. > PC-BSD seems to have done a great job reproducing the way Mac's > install software, by using self-contained bundles (PBI's). And next > version of PBI is supposed to not need a GUI. I'm sure I will be > trying the next version PC-BSD. Hopefully to be released soon. > > thanks! > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 14:51:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD4B1065672 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 14:51:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83358FC13 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 14:51:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so4271216bwz.13 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 07:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.114.144 with SMTP id e16mr4151427bkq.119.1305903084210; Fri, 20 May 2011 07:51:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.72.82 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2011 07:51:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Chris Brennan Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:51:03 -0400 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Over-whelmed by ports and package tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 14:51:26 -0000 On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Xn Nooby wrote: I think the extract is only done during the install, and then after > that it would be "portsnap fetch update" ? Or is it better to do an > extract each time? > I've always been told to do portsnap fetch extract, but I went a step farther with my alises, I have a pfu as well, that does portsnap fetch update -- > A: Yes. > >Q: Are you sure? > >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 14:59:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF485106566B for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 14:59:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5438FC0C for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 14:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so4281181bwz.13 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 07:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.14.144 with SMTP id g16mr4080793bka.34.1305903578169; Fri, 20 May 2011 07:59:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.72.82 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2011 07:59:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Chris Brennan Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:59:17 -0400 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Over-whelmed by ports and package tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 14:59:40 -0000 On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Xn Nooby wrote: > I have tried PC-BSD, and look forward to version 9.0. I really don't > like KDE, though. I hear some rumblings about a Gnome developer > wanting to drop BSD support, so maybe I better start liking KDE. > PC-BSD seems to have done a great job reproducing the way Mac's > install software, by using self-contained bundles (PBI's). And next > version of PBI is supposed to not need a GUI. I'm sure I will be > trying the next version PC-BSD. Hopefully to be released soon. > That Red-Hat developer has been preaching to the choir for a long time from my understanding. I think he wants to turn Gnome Desktop Environment into a Desktop of it's own, making the Linux underbelly disappear much like Microsoft made DOS disappear from their lineup, making Windows the primary focus. if Gnome goes the way of Windows .... there is a plethora of other choices to choose for a WM ... openbox/blackbox/fluxbox, XFCE, yes KDE is an option, it takes some getting used to but it can still be used. As a side note, I wonder what kind of impact that kind of decision making will have on the Android platform ... my phone says it's running X/Gnome for the UI. -- > A: Yes. > >Q: Are you sure? > >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 15:08:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F83A106564A for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 15:08:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273348FC19 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 15:08:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so4379031iwn.13 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 08:08:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.187.89 with SMTP id cv25mr3233301ibb.111.1305904101758; Fri, 20 May 2011 08:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.13.139 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2011 08:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 11:08:21 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: LKxYRGaKWPMSpP34kYcM7KkPKmM Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Hardware Recovery Company X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 15:08:23 -0000 Hi folks, I recently sent a hard drive to be recovered and I think they just ripped me off. I have the back-up drive and believe it or not it has the same exact symptoms and won't mount. So I want to send both drives to a REAL AND TRUSTED LAB for 2 things: 1) Forensics on the supposed head-replecement mumbo-jumbo/scam crap of the other lab 2) Recovery of the data of the back-up drive I guess this only happens once in a lifetime when both drives die, but I can't risk the second drive to a non-certified lab. I really trust the people on this list so hopefully you can point me to a real and non-bullshit lab that can really recover data. It would be nice to know if the lab can actually do #1 and certify my concerns and willing to testify in court because I want to press legal charges against the other lab if they in fact ripped me off and jeopardized my data. But if they can't I still need to recover the data! HELP! Thanks beforehand ! -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 15:09:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4AE106567E for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 15:09:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB508FC1B for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 15:09:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so4380038iwn.13 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 08:09:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.217.137 with SMTP id hm9mr5196546icb.196.1305904152796; Fri, 20 May 2011 08:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.13.139 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2011 08:09:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 11:09:12 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 07ms-n2XDbfhkiyzgguLbLAkOd4 Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [OT] Re: Hardware Recovery Company X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 15:09:13 -0000 On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > Hi folks, > > I recently sent a hard drive to be recovered and I think they just > ripped me off. I have the back-up drive and believe it or not it has > the same exact symptoms and won't mount. So I want to send both drives > to a REAL AND TRUSTED LAB for 2 things: Sorry people, forgot the OT Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 15:23:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59915106564A for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 15:23:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152D98FC15 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 15:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BE43D864; Fri, 20 May 2011 17:23:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p4KFNjii001840; Fri, 20 May 2011 17:23:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 17:23:45 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chris Brennan Message-Id: <20110520172345.6e2f3ec6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20110504142626.539c2b6f@scorpio> <4DC1CA49.8060801@onetel.com> <20110504181106.4ea5b8e7@scorpio> <20110519224049.a97c15fa.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110519230402.faa010bd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110520161857.55b4cc8c.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: A possibly odd upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 15:23:48 -0000 On Fri, 20 May 2011 10:26:01 -0400, Chris Brennan wrote: > OK, I am off now to research how to build the kernel w/o debugging symbols > ... then I shall embark on this. It should be "makeoptions DEBUG=-g" _NOT_ being present in the config file. Another idea would be to omit the backup of the old kernel. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 15:26:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76FDF1065672 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 15:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tj@tjvarghese.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B668FC12 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 15:26:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so4313839bwz.13 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 08:26:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.26.200 with SMTP id f8mr3949212bkc.99.1305903465147; Fri, 20 May 2011 07:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.151.208 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2011 07:57:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DD37DDA.1090107@locolomo.org> References: <4DD37DDA.1090107@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 22:57:44 +0800 Message-ID: From: TJ Varghese To: =?UTF-8?Q?Erik_N=C3=B8rgaard?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD compatible mini-itx board X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 15:26:47 -0000 On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Erik N=C3=B8rgaard = wrote: > Hi: > > I am looking for a new low power mini-itx board for my firewall/home > server. I've had VIA boards but flacky disk controller and other problems > have made me look for something else. > > So, going all Intel, I hope there will be no hardware problems. I'm looki= ng > at The Intel D945GSEJT with an Atom N270 processor and the following spec= s: > > Mobile Intel 945GSE Express Chipset > Intel 82945GSE Express Chipset Graphics/Memory Controller Hub > Intel 82801GBM I/O Controller Hub (ICH7-M) > Intel GMA950 > RealTek 8111DL Gigabit Ethernet Controller > > Does FBSD support this? > > I don't care about graphics basic VGA is enough as this will be a headles= s > server. But I do care that the disk controller is fully supported as well= as > the NIC. > > Any suggestions of alternative boards? AFAIK the N270 is single core 32bi= t, > a dual core and/or 64bit alternative would be interesting. > > Also: The Intel manual mentions: "Support for DDR2 533 MHz SO-DIMMs (DDR2 > 800 MHz and DDR2 667 MHz validated to run at 533 MHz only)" > > Will faster RAM result in a less stable system? > > And what is Serial Presence Detect RAM? I've never seen this advertised. > > Lots of questions, I know... > > Thanks, Erik > _______________________________________________ > > I'd recommend the below instead, DDR2 is deprecated. http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/db-D525MW/D525MW-overvie= w.htm I've had good results with these. These can do 8GB on amd64 (though the aforementioned page only states 4GB) with 2x4GB DDR3 1066 SODIMMs. AHCI & GbE work fine. The D525MW is dualcore+HT, there's also the 425KT single core+HT variant. The latter doesn't have GbE...not worth it IMHO. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 15:36:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303D4106566B for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 15:36:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7EE8FC13 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 15:36:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so4326922bwz.13 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 08:36:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.164.2 with SMTP id c2mr4161050bky.85.1305905817311; Fri, 20 May 2011 08:36:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.72.82 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2011 08:36:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110520172345.6e2f3ec6.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20110504142626.539c2b6f@scorpio> <4DC1CA49.8060801@onetel.com> <20110504181106.4ea5b8e7@scorpio> <20110519224049.a97c15fa.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110519230402.faa010bd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110520161857.55b4cc8c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110520172345.6e2f3ec6.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Chris Brennan Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 11:36:37 -0400 Message-ID: To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: A possibly odd upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 15:36:59 -0000 On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 20 May 2011 10:26:01 -0400, Chris Brennan > wrote: > > OK, I am off now to research how to build the kernel w/o debugging > symbols > > ... then I shall embark on this. > > It should be "makeoptions DEBUG=-g" _NOT_ being present > in the config file. Another idea would be to omit the > backup of the old kernel. I will modify my kernel config to reflect that change and I was going to make a backup ... I'm using the same config from 7.x, only slightly modified to reflect this machine, that said, how do I clobber the current kernel and not back it up when I install the new one? -- > A: Yes. > >Q: Are you sure? > >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 15:38:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BCD106566B for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 15:38:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C46CF8FC16 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 15:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43F73D8B5; Fri, 20 May 2011 17:38:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p4KFcEZP001868; Fri, 20 May 2011 17:38:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 17:38:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Xn Nooby Message-Id: <20110520173813.85cbf142.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Alejandro Imass , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Over-whelmed by ports and package tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 15:38:17 -0000 On Fri, 20 May 2011 10:26:11 -0400, Xn Nooby wrote: > > Also try to go with portsnap for ports IMHO it's the path of least > > resistance ;-) > > I will try portsnap, and read about the pkgdb database. If all these > tools ultimately resolve to pkgdb, I will try to learn about that. I think pkgdb (often used as "pkgdb -aF") belongs to portinstall / portupgrade, and it keeps things in sync when you use different installing methods side by side (which is possible), e. g. # pkg_add -r bla # portinstall foo/urgz # cd /usr/ports/baz/bar # make install In this case, running "pkgdb -aF" before and after each installation (or upgrading or removing) step makes sure nothing gets "installed twice". If you use portmaster for maintaining your ports, you should be safe. Using portsnap to obtain a current ports tree is a common way. If you need it "more current", use csup. Here is an explaination text I did already post to the list: Step 1: Add this to /etc/make.conf: SUP_UPDATE= yes SUP= /usr/bin/csup SUPFLAGS= -g -L 2 SUPHOST= cvsup.freebsd.org PORTSSUPFILE= /etc/sup/ports.sup Step 2: Create /etc/sup/ports.sup: *default host=cvsup.freebsd.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=. *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress ports-all Note: You can use a different cvsup host and can also exclude port categories from being updated (e. g. for languages you do not use, or kinds of programs you are not interested in). See /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile for more details, it's very well documented (here: in comments). Step 3: Perform the update # cd /usr/ports # make update Now you have a _current_ ports tree. Note: A similar method works for the system sources. Add SUPFILE= /etc/sup/stable.sup to /etc/make.conf and create /etc/sup/stable.sup like this: *default host=cvsup.freebsd.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all This will give you 8-STABLE. Use "tag=RELENG_8.0" for 8.0-pX (security branch, just as freebsd-update would do), and if you need RELEASE, use "tag=RELENG_8.0.0". Then, # cd /usr/src # make update # make buildworld buildkernel See /usr/src/Makefile (comment section) for which make targets are defined and in which order you must proceed for a system upgrade based on sources. More info here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/cvs-tags.html > I have tried PC-BSD, and look forward to version 9.0. I really don't > like KDE, though. I've _tried_ to like it, but that wasn't a big success. :-) > I hear some rumblings about a Gnome developer > wanting to drop BSD support, so maybe I better start liking KDE. It is currently discussed to turn Gnome into a kind of Linux distribution, if I understood this correctly. Of course it implies that Gnome _itself_ will drop support for Solaris and the BSDs, and maybe all other operating systems that do not run the Linux kernel (e. g. Debian running a FreeBSD or HURD kernel, maybe even mobile devices?). But on the other hand, this is free software, so anyone who wants to port Gnome to non-Linux is free to do so. > PC-BSD seems to have done a great job reproducing the way Mac's > install software, by using self-contained bundles (PBI's). In my opinion, this is not optimal. Software should be managed by the system, not by downloading things using a web browser... but at least there are command line tools to deal with PBI, so all the annoying interaction during an installation process can be omitted. But on the other hand, this is what people seem to be used to, so why not distribute software this strange way? :-) > And next > version of PBI is supposed to not need a GUI. I thought it would already be existing??? > I'm sure I will be > trying the next version PC-BSD. Hopefully to be released soon. If you want a preconfigured system and don't mind the sloppy support for the german language, PC-BSD is a very good piece of software. Still I have to express Mr. Horse's primary opinion about it. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 16:00:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE071065670 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 16:00:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C9B8FC20 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 16:00:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F96D3CD44; Fri, 20 May 2011 18:00:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p4KG0k66001972; Fri, 20 May 2011 18:00:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 18:00:46 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chris Brennan Message-Id: <20110520180046.7680609e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20110504142626.539c2b6f@scorpio> <4DC1CA49.8060801@onetel.com> <20110504181106.4ea5b8e7@scorpio> <20110519224049.a97c15fa.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110519230402.faa010bd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110520161857.55b4cc8c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110520172345.6e2f3ec6.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: A possibly odd upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 16:00:48 -0000 On Fri, 20 May 2011 11:36:37 -0400, Chris Brennan wrote: > I will modify my kernel config to reflect that change and I was going to > make a backup ... I'm using the same config from 7.x, only slightly modified > to reflect this machine, that said, how do I clobber the current kernel and > not back it up when I install the new one? I think / should have enough space for installing a new kernel without debugging symbols, I assume it will require 50 MB max, and if we assume that the current GENERIC kernel will be kept as a backup, you should be fine. Coming back to your initial partitioning data, Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 496M 328M 128M 72% / indicates that you have 128 MB free, so it should work. In case "make installkernel" will fail due to capacity reasons, you can easily switch back to the backup kernel, and maybe you find some stuff you can safely delete from the / partition (e. g. check /root). Also, read /usr/src/Makefile's comment header about the recommended procedure for updating the system. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 16:44:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FBA1065679 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 16:44:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE278FC18 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 16:44:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p4KGiZsL067817; Fri, 20 May 2011 10:44:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p4KGiZjp067814; Fri, 20 May 2011 10:44:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:44:35 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20110520164024.f76e67bc.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20110504142626.539c2b6f@scorpio> <4DC1CA49.8060801@onetel.com> <20110504181106.4ea5b8e7@scorpio> <20110519224049.a97c15fa.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110519230402.faa010bd.freebsd@edvax.de> <4DD63DE7.6070900@ose.nl> <20110520164024.f76e67bc.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 20 May 2011 10:44:36 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Bas Smeelen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, xaero@xaerolimit.net Subject: Re: A possibly odd upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 16:44:40 -0000 On Fri, 20 May 2011, Polytropon wrote: > However, I think increasing the default size to 1GB for / > would be a nice addition for the next release That was recently implemented, maybe even for 8.2. It was in there the last time I ran sysinstall, anyway. 8-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 18:06:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1283106564A for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 18:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieterbsd@engineer.com) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 650ED8FC0A for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 18:06:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32658 invoked by uid 0); 20 May 2011 18:06:45 -0000 Received: from 67.206.161.15 by rms-us011.v300.gmx.net with HTTP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 18:06:42 +0000 From: "Dieter BSD" Message-ID: <20110520180644.227480@gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Authenticated: #74169980 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: GMX.com Web Mailer x-registered: 0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 29i/fpEW33erJQ7YAmtn26IjL0tsZg02 Subject: xpdf does not accept input from keyboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 18:06:46 -0000 FreeBSD 8.2  amd64 xpdf version 3.02 whines: Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfActivate Warning: ... found while parsing ':osfActivate:            ManagerParentActivate()' Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfBeginLine Warning: ... found while parsing ':osfBeginLine:           ManagerGadgetTraverseHome()' Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfHelp Warning: ... found while parsing ':osfHelp:                        ManagerGadgetHelp()' Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background. Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfActivate Warning: ... found while parsing ':osfActivate:    PrimitiveParentActivate()' Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfHelp Warning: ... found while parsing ':osfHelp:                Help()' ... Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfCancel Warning: ... found while parsing 'osfCancel:                       MenuEscape()' Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfActivate Warning: ... found while parsing ':osfActivate:    PrimitiveParentActivate()' Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfSelect Warning: ... found while parsing ':osfSelect:      ArmAndActivate()' Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-times-bold-i-normal--20-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-times-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct Warning: Color name "LightYellow" is not defined And then seems to mostly work, except that it does not notice any input from the keyboard.  Clicking on buttons with the mouse works as expected, but attempting to paste text into the find text box does not work. 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Stacey" Message-ID: <20110520232536.GA5016@thought.org> References: <20110518191001.GA22364@thought.org> <201105201412.p4KECZUO078750@fire.js.berklix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201105201412.p4KECZUO078750@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24++ years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Dan Nelson , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Expanding tabs (was Re: kwik way?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 23:25:38 -0000 On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 04:12:35PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 16:12:35 +0200 > From: "Julian H. Stacey" > Subject: Re: Expanding tabs (was Re: kwik way?) > To: Gary Kline > cc: Dan Nelson , FreeBSD Mailing List > > X-URL: http://www.berklix.com > > Hi, > Reference: > > From: Gary Kline > > Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 12:10:01 -0700 > > Message-id: <20110518191001.GA22364@thought.org> > > Gary Kline wrote: > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 01:09:36PM -0500, Dan Nelson wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 13:09:36 -0500 > > > From: Dan Nelson > > > Subject: Re: Expanding tabs (was Re: kwik way?) > > > To: Gary Kline > > > Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List > > > > > > In the last episode (May 18), Gary Kline said: > > > > should i use tr or sed to turn "\t" into " "? --i.e., tabs into spaces. > > > > > > tr or expand (depending on whether you want to honor the intent of the tab > > > or not). sed is overkill. > > > > > > yeah, agree. i grabbed an old `for k in *;do' script and used tr on > > 80+ files. [facing reality, i'm throwing in the towel on hacking. > > wanted something easy!] > > http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/jhs/bin/public/tab/tab.c > & tab.1 & Makefile > works on the assumption of 8,16 etc, not other minorities eg ts=4 > > Mature code 1988 till now. Hasn't burnt me yet. > > Cheers, > Julian > -- > Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com > Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, Not HTML, Not base 64. > Reply below text sections not at top, to avoid breaking cumulative context. Been messing with tab.c [on my desktop, ubuntu]; it compiles with gcc tab.c, etc. the man page displays cleanly. thing is: how to i get, say hello, \t how are \t you to translate to hello, how are you [?] in other words, tab -> 1 space rather than the defaul of 4. tx, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 05:13:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C8C6106564A for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 05:13:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1482E8FC0C for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 05:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p4L5ClSH074503 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 20 May 2011 22:12:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p4L5Cllg074502; Fri, 20 May 2011 22:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA03343; Fri, 20 May 11 22:01:34 PDT Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 22:00:39 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: kline@thought.org Message-Id: <4dd746f7.Yuut6+YR+YWLNlCn%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20110518191001.GA22364@thought.org> <201105201412.p4KECZUO078750@fire.js.berklix.net> <20110520232536.GA5016@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20110520232536.GA5016@thought.org> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jhs@berklix.com, dnelson@allantgroup.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Expanding tabs (was Re: kwik way?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 05:13:01 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > how to i get, say > hello, \t how are \t you > to translate to > hello, how are you > [?] > in other words, tab -> 1 space rather than the defaul of 4. You only need something like "expand" or "tab.c" if you want to convert each tab to a variable number of spaces depending on column position. If you just want each tab to become a single space, which is what I think your "in other words" says: $ tr '\011' ' ' < input > output If you want each _sequence of one or more tabs and/or spaces_ to become a single space, which is what the example looks like: $ sed 's/[ ^I][ ^I]*/ /g' < input > output (^I represents an actual tab character; in bash I get that by the two-keystroke sequence CtrlV CtrlI but other shells may vary. Dunno offhand if sed would understand the \t or \011 notation.) 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The agent is started via .xinitrc: export GPG_TTY=3D$(tty) if [ -z `pgrep gpg-agent` ]; then eval $(gpg-agent --daemon --write-env-file "${HOME}/.gpg-agent-info" \ --log-file "${HOME}/.gnupg/gpg-agent.log") fi The agent is up and running (checked via ps) and the option "use-agent" is set in gpg.conf. As pinentry I installed pinentry-gtk2. If I try to sign or decrypt something the pinentry window comes up and asks for my passphrase. So far so good but I want it to cache my passphrase for some time. My ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf: default-cache-ttl =3D 3600 But no matter what option I set the passphrase is not cached and there is no error message in the logs. I don't know if this is the right place to ask but the same setup was running on my linux box without problems so I guess this might be bsd related. Regards, Jens P.S.: I use ssh-agent also and it works without problems. While using gpg-agent with the ssh option ask for the passphrase every time the key is used. --=20 21. 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He was going to make a long-distance caw. --Signature=_Sat__21_May_2011_08_34_21_+0200_kDgx.m8NPzpyKLoV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iQG8BAEBCgAGBQJN11z/AAoJED2+SXzzbciGo5YM/0B/hLZziEnh0L6c2Xw0HUzf g9/LHG7UwuWiqnuDBYEQdUHeYVR+mqpp2I47GdSjMMm20/d736Umf53PeIa2jFrQ T4bk07V6gJSLm1AubGMZ0TJiVfuLPKsvABLlbeeT+C1TUBebm+eRBmLv0lnGZ2vC kuzfSILcsxyTATgeHiGtLkielQ6l8q07xNL8GK5Yx2fQAktfStCp1RotASIsj25C TMEbo9/HrhQZyBF8TbbCO9ClM28cFvo6o5mKuBLwNSWUumsR+nu5RzTAE0k6bcjY iWFfJ0470iIKHLwyKheMnukQb8xUwZYIlwwTEC/p3OLKBqHQfzgEUl/b5Vd+s/tm 5OU0+ulSowZkrGYzSafFeMAWmRuYh8SwGGvJR9hdkSfTi4NtBGCf/jmjL/s7H0Qc 1/xGLwrV9ZFJvh0O40tB2OIDH7IJk9l/PWW+SdBlfIYuG60DLopZgd+aFPPzAXmt pCthlOtdo2B2ce6nkt/fh50ZpJAh94WmH2ZpsllKp2Hc2IZ2cOOI4Nk49Xnl5vxp 7djoWD719GJEPXmOObZW =yxRs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Sat__21_May_2011_08_34_21_+0200_kDgx.m8NPzpyKLoV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 07:39:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C4A1065670 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 07:39:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93CBC8FC12 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 07:39:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QNgmJ-0002oL-NA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 May 2011 09:39:15 +0200 Received: from 78-0-239-2.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([78.0.239.2]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 09:39:15 +0200 Received: from gour by 78-0-239-2.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 09:39:15 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Gour-Gadadhara Dasa Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 09:39:03 +0200 Lines: 60 Message-ID: <20110521093903.54a7fbcf@atmarama.net> References: <20110521083421.334517ab.jan0sch@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/.QG9NiHjT2FruqOnzaKdnYw"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 78-0-239-2.adsl.net.t-com.hr X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) X-Face: 3Cy8q3pLN"sFiKpp%e^3=GTSm2xV5z:O1:| :WC~ei/w@ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 07:39:17 -0000 --Sig_/.QG9NiHjT2FruqOnzaKdnYw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 21 May 2011 08:34:21 +0200 Jens Jahnke wrote: > But no matter what option I set the passphrase is not cached and there > is no error message in the logs. > I don't know if this is the right place to ask but the same setup was > running on my linux box without problems so I guess this might be bsd > related. Have you considered to use (security/)keychain? It's very handy for the purpose. It's invoked by putting something like: eval `keychain --eval id_rsa your_gpg_key`=20 in e.g. your .zshrc. Sincerely, Gour --=20 =E2=80=9CIn the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 --Sig_/.QG9NiHjT2FruqOnzaKdnYw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJN12wYAAoJELhxXPVStcgQ0W0P+wRTfD73A36G6IBV2XTfHdYB DEGoFRGUGblvk6/cNHVb0NAz1l3svdCZtet9FJ5QTU7iLH2UAP70m+a/Mne/QoOB 2vGMA+ZeJ3KnvL2TccFzQwU5uFIkeFSa2Vn4voQYtA0bwAX1xTzzkTPJkSK0YufF ohqgiJJYqaMtgvDZdGX9/AOZEByDoaSFvQnNl9CdyXbgmrt6vwCh1sPQuDVw2qh4 sQ+NFz6AwrIm6cRYp1SX2jMLVWcoFQszord+A4ptnsZ69evtci4xeXcA0aCHcEZg HIqkJPGgkuBSpx7rjj/UIBldRntL1jlbfClw0mB2HocbY+9dlQbPYv+gAK6l9ZFu bLjLrsdacmIamMvuUq8xi9qQYQ6LTfdayI0lK779kRbQO9lZjkZJWYD9yyLlv5ye CRXwiskBH/w27mi/a+wq12n+HFXSD4clMoULmGRTjRirGhYSyeJWEuJ4MmE+fx/0 ZLhZtRL8dsHOw8RYhS3Tx7mog9sHumsbsqEZYZFC+4ZAUDkkTc0CHHAyIpsskVry et0TT8ZC4AuPuNzjB76naSLgHT3EAPn9LOsDGoV0IofL0Btip2iNPWFyEZXedsp+ 52j/SG3t0Z+F/Zfk/CuM0wwgTlM7cxu8Rh10fClSEMIgPS+ahTSbdqYUzUiyjCkZ XB5kkoma0WO3prLAF9VD =+F3v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/.QG9NiHjT2FruqOnzaKdnYw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 08:02:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C05106566C for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 08:02:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF218FC0A for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 08:02:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p4L82SkC007868; Sat, 21 May 2011 09:02:28 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p4L82SBU007859; Sat, 21 May 2011 09:02:28 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0153D33C52; Sat, 21 May 2011 09:02:28 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 09:02:27 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Jens Jahnke Message-ID: <20110521080227.GA5841@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20110521083421.334517ab.jan0sch@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SUOF0GtieIMvvwua" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110521083421.334517ab.jan0sch@gmx.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd questions Subject: Re: Running gpg-agent and caching the passphrase X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 08:02:32 -0000 --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 08:34:21AM +0200, Jens Jahnke wrote: > > Hi, >=20 > I'm trying to get gpg-agent running under 8.2 using the same setup I've > had on my linux box. > The agent is started via .xinitrc: > export GPG_TTY=3D$(tty) > if [ -z `pgrep gpg-agent` ]; then > eval $(gpg-agent --daemon --write-env-file "${HOME}/.gpg-agent-info" \ > --log-file "${HOME}/.gnupg/gpg-agent.log") > fi >=20 > The agent is up and running (checked via ps) and the option "use-agent" > is set in gpg.conf. As pinentry I installed pinentry-gtk2. >=20 > If I try to sign or decrypt something the pinentry window comes up and > asks for my passphrase. So far so good but I want it to cache my > passphrase for some time. > My ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf: > default-cache-ttl =3D 3600 Try: default-cache-ttl 3600 (no equals sign) >=20 > But no matter what option I set the passphrase is not cached and there > is no error message in the logs. > I don't know if this is the right place to ask but the same setup was > running on my linux box without problems so I guess this might be bsd > related. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Jens >=20 > P.S.: I use ssh-agent also and it works without problems. While using > gpg-agent with the ssh option ask for the passphrase every time the key > is used. >=20 Regards, =20 --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk3XcZIACgkQHduKvUAgeK4x/ACdGL3I+ZfLsr8qKXkxXSwptUL4 PX4AoJgr5fGnq7wASOdBgo+fhJUrimd3 =+oD+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 10:09:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE9B106566B for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 10:09:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan0sch@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BCF8D8FC08 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 10:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 21 May 2011 10:09:34 -0000 Received: from dslb-088-074-060-022.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO magni.rostock.home) [88.74.60.22] by mail.gmx.net (mp007) with SMTP; 21 May 2011 12:09:34 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1545395 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+bAqwyVY2b/r/2i+2HfVky077XdO3gS1hpjTyXx1 q4Mw5dwoI2LhZx Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 12:08:44 +0200 From: Jens Jahnke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20110521120844.8e2b5bf5.jan0sch@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20110521080227.GA5841@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20110521083421.334517ab.jan0sch@gmx.net> <20110521080227.GA5841@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) X-Face: &?!P`87-36gaG)/K:yi&ixw=uy]y'?$vrc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA512"; boundary="Signature=_Sat__21_May_2011_12_08_44_+0200_Q8abhpMHmy+OD3WH" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: Running gpg-agent and caching the passphrase X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 10:09:37 -0000 --Signature=_Sat__21_May_2011_12_08_44_+0200_Q8abhpMHmy+OD3WH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 21 May 2011 09:02:27 +0100 Frank Shute wrote: FS> Try: FS>=20 FS> default-cache-ttl 3600 FS>=20 FS> (no equals sign) Woah, stupid me. Thanks for the tip. It works now. =3D) Regards, Jens --=20 21. Wonnemond 2011, 12:07 Homepage : http://www.jan0sch.de To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and, whatever you hit, call it the target. --Signature=_Sat__21_May_2011_12_08_44_+0200_Q8abhpMHmy+OD3WH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iQG8BAEBCgAGBQJN148sAAoJED2+SXzzbciGm5IM/3bAYCf3EswCgpQjyT6l9pvV 2NXigb7NMIp3P9WNJ6s8Lss55vqQrrFCQ6kvNeujyOrj3zgsIBlqUW6Ij+inQ0pA IiKG7l3gSEUffRtltQ15dalcYBJKBqRmHSWerVPTrW1LV4Ap83hWCHhfWMsDhMNA 8XAF7zpHkKPcQ2QAoM08n7Yl4DnbQsPBTcyWI5VuyQ/wP/mTd7EnOtVXkIlDHs+C S1RH8LZAF+bsekxYUli7VM9WgL/oW7JN+W2y2DKhT9aFoMLq3nY+9IMyllFUTYDC 3Su1focxqWu7g2zSdpyfPyu7qnbYKM/ml3JGuIduGmag7EIQ1OolIYVj3dUW2kG4 vA8pBSwgWx3i+N7U6FWlZIa/t/fD83j2Kkhig1XK1p8YFnAxRvG2TXX/MYCpjkjn w661tmsSgrJVU0H2W1Yje4eZ/LV/rky+kNsX7WnpDbbF5rIHca5b/LHBM2y2kUZ0 0pBmqsrQ1vcvF+2MD6Ip5Ew0H5MqWq+9nhmQWYP81Y1azh4MwGYcM9uEhtexzVoy Ja0zPo85lrHDX52rvVOi =alqz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Sat__21_May_2011_12_08_44_+0200_Q8abhpMHmy+OD3WH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 13:28:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAF0106564A for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:28:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021778FC0A for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:28:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywf7 with SMTP id 7so2069806ywf.13 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 06:28:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=aPEQng7emw+w4VkcXTClcPbt8q1xF0Qzrn1MPMtPeDI=; b=DxrGxhbrEU/GxM9PKhqUPukhEeYes3LXJ4vN1p/AjgWmO/DdkZWSsO7X7Pql3KuZDV 9IWeQbDBCG3hHfvtaOb6a/+wbWdQ9kUKe7QzNETE747Gn3tc+H+1uarouFefyg3BAgNR ZEevjiP4xSdcZ2R05i0uewQODfdvZ7ef+zKLY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=K9aWAWTZwJ2zDcBlMS44uXxbtFFmZlOrkMeEeP8wrFOgFyoC/M1V/hTxc6sJFGS21L mO/HVC/HEpNkHGl6B7B27c2xE5Z2eLf/Fq1orasx8S5Czo08v81/gxrFHhEjCtGycdmZ hsAougXdWi+M81fctthvlOUPBlQnJ7z6Xs7kc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.183.2 with SMTP id k2mr3246842anp.7.1305984512177; Sat, 21 May 2011 06:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.48.6 with HTTP; Sat, 21 May 2011 06:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 09:28:32 -0400 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: ipv6 spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 13:28:33 -0000 I have begun receiving ipv6 spam from this mailing list, and I was wondering how to determine who the owner of a particular ipv6 address is. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 13:45:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6701065670 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:45:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [91.121.44.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1CB8FC0C for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:45:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (6.176.97.84.rev.sfr.net [84.97.176.6]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 25A01633207 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 15:45:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F6E18A3C47 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 15:45:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 15:45:28 +0200 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110521154528.6bb8cc2e@davenulle.org> In-Reply-To: <20110510194135.12566435@davenulle.org> References: <20110510173153.638712fb@mr12941> <20110510194135.12566435@davenulle.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: (8.2) amd64 + linuxulator + nvidia driver is it stable ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 13:45:28 -0000 Le Tue, 10 May 2011 19:41:35 +0200, Patrick Lamaiziere a écrit : > Well if I still have crash, I will try with a 32 bits version. For the record, the box was not stable at all running amd64 and works perfectly in i386. I don't know why. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 13:58:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D8A106566B for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:58:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com (mail-bw0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1923D8FC08 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:58:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz13 with SMTP id 13so6144043bwz.17 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 06:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.114.144 with SMTP id e16mr570990bkq.119.1305986302208; Sat, 21 May 2011 06:58:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.72.82 with HTTP; Sat, 21 May 2011 06:58:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Chris Brennan Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 09:58:02 -0400 Message-ID: To: Robert Simmons Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipv6 spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 13:58:25 -0000 On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Robert Simmons wrote: I have begun receiving ipv6 spam from this mailing list, and I was > wondering how to determine who the owner of a particular ipv6 address > is. A whois may tell you who the block has been given too (ISP wise) ... that may start you in the right direction.... For example: I have a valid IPv6 address from my hosting provider (they gets used for IRC on occasion ..) NetRange: 2610:1E8:: - 2610:1E8:FFFF:FFFF:FFFF:FFFF:FFFF:FFFF CIDR: 2610:1E8::/32 OriginAS: AS14595 NetName: NET-THINKTEL6-1 NetHandle: NET6-2610-1E8-1 Parent: NET6-2610-1 NetType: Direct Allocation RegDate: 2007-05-04 Updated: 2007-05-04 Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET6-2610-1E8-1 As you can see, a whois of that ip reveals the block provided to my hosts provider, from there you could start asking questions. Spam sent to the list, I tend to ignore, spam sent to me, I investigate and make go away. I'v also run a tracert(6) to find a general geographic region of the spam, if it's origin was reasonably local then I fire e-mails off to those locations as best I can. An interesting story here ... I actually knew one of my spammers, personally, a pseudofriend who always tried to show off to me, he had money and was always buying gadgets that he had no use for or how to use. When I figured it out I almost laughed meself stupid. I then took all my proof to his Mom and it all stopped, all his gadgets mysteriously disappeared from his house and he stopped calling ... coincidentally, all of that mysteriously disappeared junk, magically appeared in my bedroom :D Anywho there are ways, just takes patience and persistence... -- > A: Yes. > >Q: Are you sure? > >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 14:32:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id 35E191065670; Sat, 21 May 2011 14:32:16 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 14:32:16 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110521143216.GA64554@FreeBSD.org> References: <20110510173153.638712fb@mr12941> <201105101821.40059.lobo@bsd.com.br> <201105102219.06213.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20110511120247.564c3a58@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110511120247.564c3a58@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: (8.2) amd64 + linuxulator + nvidia driver is it stable ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 14:32:16 -0000 On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:02:47PM -0400, Jerry wrote: > Does anyone know why the "x11/nvidia-driver" port has not been updated? Frequent ENOTIME on my side to perform all required testing. :-( > The latest version is 270.41.06 according to the nVidia page: I've updated the port few minutes ago. Sorry it took that long. ./danfe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 14:33:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215E2106564A for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 14:33:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from mf1.socket.net (mf1.socket.net [216.106.88.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D568FC1B for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 14:33:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [216.106.88.17]) by mf1.socket.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A2C804040A for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 09:33:45 -0500 (CDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jhall@socket.net X-Apparently-from: jhall@mail.socket.net X-Remote-Host: 216.106.31.249 User-Agent: Socket WebMail Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 09:33:45 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20110521143347.215E2106564A@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: IPSec routing (long post) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jhall@socket.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 14:33:47 -0000 Ladies and Gentlemen, First, please excuse this extremely long post. I have tried to include all of the information I thought was relevant, and may have included too much. I have established an IPSec connection to our vendor using transport mode. However, I am having problems successfully routing the traffic. We using a preshared key for authentication. The connection is successfully made. My vendor has verified they are able to see the connection up on their router and I am able to see a successful connection when running racoon in the foreground. I am running FBSD 8.1. My external IP address is 1.2.3.4 and the vendor's is 5.6.7.8. The default gateway on my system is 1.2.3.5. My internal IP address range is 192.168.1.0/24 and the vendor's is 192.168.2.0//24. Following is what I have done/tried. Following are my entries in racoon.conf. I have not changed any of the default settings for padding/spacing/etc. remote 5.6.7.8 { exchange_mode main,aggressive; doi ipsec_doi; situation identity_only; my_identifier address 1.2.3.4; proposal_check obey; # obey, strict, or claim lifetime time 86400 secs; proposal { encryption_algorithm 3des; hash_algorithm sha1; authentication_method pre_shared_key; dh_group 2; } } sainfo address 192.168.1.024 any address 192.168.2.0/24 any { pfs_group 2; encryption_algorithm 3des; lifetime time 3600 secs; authentication_algorithm hmac_sha1; compression_algorithm deflate; } sainfo address 192.168.2.0/24 any address 192.168.1.024 any { pfs_group 2; encryption_algorithm 3des; lifetime time 3600 secs; authentication_algorithm hmac_sha1; compression_algorithm deflate; } sainfo address 1.2.3.4/32 any address 192.168.2.0/24 any { pfs_group 2; encryption_algorithm 3des; lifetime time 3600 secs; authentication_algorithm hmac_sha1; compression_algorithm deflate; } sainfo address 192.168.2.0/24 any address 65.1117.48.155/32 any { pfs_group 2; encryption_algorithm 3des; lifetime time 3600 secs; authentication_algorithm hmac_sha1; compression_algorithm deflate; } sainfo address 1.2.3.4/32 any address 5.6.7.8 any { pfs_group 2; encryption_algorithm 3des; lifetime time 3600 secs; authentication_algorithm hmac_sha1; compression_algorithm deflate; sainfo address 1.2.3.4/32 any address 5.6.7.8 any { pfs_group 2; encryption_algorithm 3des; lifetime time 3600 secs; authentication_algorithm hmac_sha1; compression_algorithm deflate; } sainfo address 5.6.7.8/32 any address 1.2.3.4/32 any { pfs_group 2; encryption_algorithm 3des; lifetime time 3600 secs; authentication_algorithm hmac_sha1; compression_algorithm deflate; } sainfo address 192.168.1.024 any address 5.6.7.8 any { pfs_group 2; encryption_algorithm 3des; lifetime time 3600 secs; authentication_algorithm hmac_sha1; compression_algorithm deflate; } sainfo address 192.168.1.024 any address 5.6.7.8 any { pfs_group 2; encryption_algorithm 3des; lifetime time 3600 secs; authentication_algorithm hmac_sha1; compression_algorithm deflate; } The following entries are made using setkey. flush; spdflush; spdadd 1.2.3.4/32 5.6.7.8/32 any -P out ipsec esp/tunnel/1.2.3.4-5.6.7.8/require; spdadd 192.168.1.0/24 192.168.2.0//24 any -P out ipsec esp/transport/1.2.3.4-5.6.7.8/require; spdadd 1.2.3.4/32 192.168.2.0//24 any -P out ipsec esp/transport/1.2.3.4-5.6.7.8/require; spdadd 192.168.1.0/24 5.6.7.8 any -P out ipsec esp/transport/1.2.3.4-5.6.7.8/require; spdadd 5.6.7.8/32 1.2.3.4/32 any -P in ipsec esp/tunnel/5.6.7.8-1.2.3.4/require; spdadd 192.168.2.0//24 192.168.1.0/24 any -P in ipsec esp/transport/5.6.7.8-1.2.3.4/require; spdadd 192.168.2.0//24 1.2.3.4/32 any -P in ipsec esp/transport/5.6.7.8-1.2.3.4/require; spdadd 5.6.7.8/32 192.168.1.0/24 any -P in ipsec esp/transport/5.6.7.8-1.2.3.4/require; Using setkey -DP all of the entries have been made. I see the following in the log which indicates, to me anyway, the proper policy has been applied. 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: suitable inbound SP found: 192.168.2.0/24[0] 1.2.3.4/32[0] proto=any dir=in. 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: new acquire 1.2.3.4/32[0] 192.168.2.0/24[0] proto=any dir=out 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: configuration found for 5.6.7.8. 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: getsainfo params: loc='1.2.3.4', rmt='192.168.2.0/24', peer='NULL', id=0 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: getsainfo pass #2 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: evaluating sainfo: loc='ANONYMOUS', rmt='ANONYMOUS', peer='ANY', id=0 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: evaluating sainfo: loc='192.168.1.0/24', rmt='5.6.7.8', peer='ANY', id=0 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: check and compare ids : value mismatch (IPv4_subnet) 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: cmpid target: '1.2.3.4' 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: cmpid source: '192.168.1.0/24' 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: evaluating sainfo: loc='1.2.3.4', rmt='5.6.7.8', peer='ANY', id=0 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: check and compare ids : values matched (IPv4_address) 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: cmpid target: '1.2.3.4' 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: cmpid source: '1.2.3.4' 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: check and compare ids : value mismatch (IPv4_address) 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: cmpid target: '192.168.2.0/24' 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: cmpid source: '5.6.7.8' 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: evaluating sainfo: loc='1.2.3.4', rmt='192.168.2.0/24', peer='ANY', id=0 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: check and compare ids : values matched (IPv4_address) 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: cmpid target: '1.2.3.4' 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: cmpid source: '1.2.3.4' 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: check and compare ids : values matched (IPv4_subnet) 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: cmpid target: '192.168.2.0/24' 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: cmpid source: '192.168.2.0/24' 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: selected sainfo: loc='1.2.3.4', rmt='192.168.2.0/24', peer='ANY', id=0 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: (proto_id=ESP spisize=4 spi=00000000 spi_p=00000000 encmode=Transport reqid=0:0) 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: (trns_id=3DES encklen=0 authtype=hmac-sha) 2011-05-21 10:10:29: DEBUG: in post_acquire A traceroute from my FSDB box to the vendor's router shows the following. traceroute to 10.129.90.1 (10.129.90.1), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 65.117.48.153 (65.117.48.153) 0.355 ms 0.317 ms 0.280 ms 2 localhost (127.0.0.1) 0.322 ms 0.203 ms 0.276 ms 3 * * * 4 * * * My guess is that I have some type of error in my routing table, but I have no idea what I should be looking for. Following is the route table. # netstat -rn | more Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 1.2.3.5 UGS 5 1808102 bge1 192.168.1.0/24 link#1 U 3 2089735 bge0 10.129.10.40 link#1 UHS 1 0 lo0 1.2.3.1/29 link#2 U 0 0 bge1 1.2.3.4 link#2 UHS 0 103 lo0 Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance for your help. Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 15:39:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B8A106564A for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 15:39:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8498FC12 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 15:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21996 invoked from network); 21 May 2011 15:39:06 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 May 2011 15:39:05 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931635081F; Sat, 21 May 2011 11:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 1C10C39822; Sat, 21 May 2011 11:38:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "Vladislav V. Prodan" References: <4DD638C1.7080007@ukr.net> Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 11:38:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4DD638C1.7080007@ukr.net> (Vladislav V. Prodan's message of "Fri, 20 May 2011 12:47:45 +0300") Message-ID: <44ei3s9i7i.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Tell a minimum requirement for RAM for virtual machines (virtualbox) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 15:39:07 -0000 "Vladislav V. Prodan" writes: > Tell choice OS (8.2, 8.2-CURRENT or 9.0-CURRENT, FS (UFS or ZFS) and > the minimum amount of RAM for use in such schemes: > 1) the interaction of multiple routers with established quagga (bgpv4, > bgpv6, ospf) > 2) the work of two different modes of MYSQL replication servers/clusters. > 3) backup zfs partitions/snapshots to a remote server > > > Host machine - win7 64x with 6 GB of RAM That's a varied enough workload that I think you'd have to try it. ZFS has problems with low-memory conditions, so you might want to avoid it for this application. I don't think the OS version will matter much, but I'd be tempted to go with CURRENT, especially if you use ZFS. Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 15:57:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85679106564A for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 15:57:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160258FC0A for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 15:57:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so4458163fxm.13 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 08:57:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=nJhnf8YZ7qHidQ36Yx6YCoBcjQCkDuEzL53ahdpMOCA=; b=ML1bEJGGI1b2dk1eWur0X/VYF0RmdLBHoiPGOhDfSwlwYmFmOejqCokliCxlhup0+M 94Yzxp2it8HQQ/lfVG6lGI9DUHrZAWYlZqDRaaAVp3BhqyExLylkHROhShV/O66R4CAV OkvqHJO3+BmXX+t+WZUQ5Kx1R+yTIVpHZex4I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=qOF8hr28iKrDcIwr+BAEnGzPjZifbUITEJXbSIadB6oj7pG7d1/m8whWfZaDTLM382 4fH38Gm7i5Xux3DpZ87ekDtBVxQZ+LM8qkiwiz9ttDpHEY7sZcd7sX3nuIG5J/1/8PBA JLjcijpce4OHQaQE+qNPYG2R59Qf74AjpAgFw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.144.136 with SMTP id z8mr733496fau.31.1305993471776; Sat, 21 May 2011 08:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.118.148 with HTTP; Sat, 21 May 2011 08:57:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DD638C1.7080007@ukr.net> References: <4DD638C1.7080007@ukr.net> Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 10:57:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: "Vladislav V. Prodan" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Tell a minimum requirement for RAM for virtual machines (virtualbox) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 15:57:53 -0000 On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Vladislav V. Prodan wrote: > Tell choice OS (8.2, 8.2-CURRENT or 9.0-CURRENT, FS (UFS or ZFS) and the > minimum amount of RAM for use in such schemes: > 1) the interaction of multiple routers with established quagga (bgpv4, > bgpv6, ospf) > 2) the work of two different modes of MYSQL replication servers/clusters. > 3) backup zfs partitions/snapshots to a remote server > > > Host machine - win7 64x with 6 GB of RAM > > Thank you for your advice. > Couple things to think about. Virtualbox by default doesn't obey flush cache commands. This is potentially a very bad thing so you'll want to look a changing the default for any ZFS VM, and probably any VM doing DB operations unless speed is more of a priority than data integrity. The other thing to keep in mind is i386 binaries use less RAM than their amd64 counter parts. For this reason, I always make my VM's 32 bit to achieve higher VM density. I have not had trouble with ZFS on i385 with 1GB+ of RAM when following the recommended tuning, but I haven't used a heavily used them either. I prefer to use the MFSBSD ZFS v28 i386 iso for the install. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 18:37:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F99E1065672 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 18:37:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from universite@ukr.net) Received: from otrada.od.ua (universite-1-pt.tunnel.tserv24.sto1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:27:140::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3578FC14 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 18:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:28:140:24f5:b4af:c57c:abfe] ([IPv6:2001:470:28:140:24f5:b4af:c57c:abfe]) (authenticated bits=0) by otrada.od.ua (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p4LIbjMI013789 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 21:37:46 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from universite@ukr.net) Message-ID: <4DD8066B.2020307@ukr.net> Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 21:37:31 +0300 From: "Vladislav V. Prodan" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; ru; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4DD638C1.7080007@ukr.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-95.5 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,FSL_RU_URL, RDNS_NONE, SPF_SOFTFAIL, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mary-teresa.otrada.od.ua X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (otrada.od.ua [IPv6:2001:470:28:140::5]); Sat, 21 May 2011 21:37:50 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Re: Tell a minimum requirement for RAM for virtual machines (virtualbox) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 18:37:52 -0000 21.05.2011 18:57, Adam Vande More wrote: > Couple things to think about. Virtualbox by default doesn't obey flush > cache commands. This is potentially a very bad thing so you'll want to look > a changing the default for any ZFS VM, and probably any VM doing DB > operations unless speed is more of a priority than data integrity. > > The other thing to keep in mind is i386 binaries use less RAM than their > amd64 counter parts. For this reason, I always make my VM's 32 bit to > achieve higher VM density. I have not had trouble with ZFS on i385 with > 1GB+ of RAM when following the recommended tuning, but I haven't used a > heavily used them either. > > I prefer to use the MFSBSD ZFS v28 i386 iso for the install. > Thanks for the recommendation, but I have all the workers of the amd64 and tests in the i386, with its restrictions did not see the point. Now start the virtual machine to 150MB RAM, FreeBSD 8.2-CURRENT amd64 on ZFS. -- Vladislav V. Prodan VVP24-UANIC +380[67]4584408 +380[99]4060508 vlad11@jabber.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 18:47:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B10106566B for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 18:47:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150138FC14 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 18:47:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDF59D8; Sat, 21 May 2011 14:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 14:47:06 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: "Vladislav V. Prodan" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <996998E6F01EF262AEE4C8A5@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: <4DD8066B.2020307@ukr.net> References: <4DD638C1.7080007@ukr.net> <4DD8066B.2020307@ukr.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: Tell a minimum requirement for RAM for virtual machines (virtualbox) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 18:47:10 -0000 --As of May 21, 2011 9:37:31 PM +0300, Vladislav V. Prodan is alleged to have said: > Thanks for the recommendation, but I have all the workers of the amd64 > and tests in the i386, with its restrictions did not see the point. > Now start the virtual machine to 150MB RAM, FreeBSD 8.2-CURRENT amd64 on > ZFS. --As for the rest, it is mine. That is quite certainly too little RAM for that setup. Lowest I've heard anyone get to with ZFS is half a GB, and it's not considered 'stable' with less than a full GB. (And from my experience I'd say you'll want more than that.) With another file system, maybe. But ZFS needs RAM. Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 19:14:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9DD2106566C for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 19:14:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBF48FC16 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 19:14:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (pD9FBFE98.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.254.152]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p4LJErVM025226; Sat, 21 May 2011 19:14:54 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p4LJElGb084598; Sat, 21 May 2011 21:14:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p4LJEdGg091107; Sat, 21 May 2011 21:14:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201105211914.p4LJEdGg091107@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Alejandro Imass From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 20 May 2011 11:08:21 EDT." Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 21:14:39 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Hardware Recovery Company X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 19:14:56 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: Alejandro Imass > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 11:08:21 -0400 > Message-id: Alejandro Imass wrote: > Hi folks, > > I recently sent a hard drive to be recovered and I think they just > ripped me off. I have the back-up drive and believe it or not it has > the same exact symptoms and won't mount. So I want to send both drives > to a REAL AND TRUSTED LAB for 2 things: > > 1) Forensics on the supposed head-replecement mumbo-jumbo/scam crap of > the other lab > 2) Recovery of the data of the back-up drive > > I guess this only happens once in a lifetime when both drives die, but > I can't risk the second drive to a non-certified lab. > > I really trust the people on this list so hopefully you can point me > to a real and non-bullshit lab that can really recover data. > > It would be nice to know if the lab can actually do #1 and certify my > concerns and willing to testify in court because I want to press legal > charges against the other lab if they in fact ripped me off and > jeopardized my data. But if they can't I still need to recover the > data! HELP! > > Thanks beforehand ! Announcing you'r thinking if suing the 1st rescuer, might make some people might be nervous in being 2nd rescuer. You could look at man fsdb Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, Not HTML, Not base 64. Reply below text sections not at top, to avoid breaking cumulative context. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 19:31:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6963B106566B for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 19:31:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5C88FC08 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 19:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C931E35F; Sat, 21 May 2011 21:31:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p4LJVC0D002556; Sat, 21 May 2011 21:31:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 21:31:12 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Julian H. Stacey" Message-Id: <20110521213112.ebcf1b39.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201105211914.p4LJEdGg091107@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <201105211914.p4LJEdGg091107@fire.js.berklix.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Alejandro Imass , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Hardware Recovery Company X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 19:31:16 -0000 On Sat, 21 May 2011 21:14:39 +0200, "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > Alejandro Imass wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I recently sent a hard drive to be recovered and I think they just > > ripped me off. I have the back-up drive and believe it or not it has > > the same exact symptoms and won't mount. So I want to send both drives > > to a REAL AND TRUSTED LAB for 2 things: > > > > 1) Forensics on the supposed head-replecement mumbo-jumbo/scam crap of > > the other lab > > 2) Recovery of the data of the back-up drive > > > > I guess this only happens once in a lifetime when both drives die, but > > I can't risk the second drive to a non-certified lab. > > > > I really trust the people on this list so hopefully you can point me > > to a real and non-bullshit lab that can really recover data. > > > > It would be nice to know if the lab can actually do #1 and certify my > > concerns and willing to testify in court because I want to press legal > > charges against the other lab if they in fact ripped me off and > > jeopardized my data. But if they can't I still need to recover the > > data! HELP! > > > > Thanks beforehand ! > > You could look at man fsdb FreeBSD offers a lot of versatile diagnostic and rescue tools, and surely fsdb is one of them. Others, provided by the base system, are "fetch -rR " and also recoverdisk. In the ports collection you'll find tools like ddrescue, dd_rescue, ffs2recov, magicrescue, testdisk, scan_ffs, recoverjpeg, foremost and photorec. And finally there is The Sleuth Kit (with its tools fls, dls, ils and autopsy). Those tools keep you from spending money to companies who also use software (this one or something else). You could also waste money on recovery programs that won't work, so trying to use the tools mentioned would be the first step. I may give two additional advices in this context: 1. Do not work with the original disk. Make a dd copy and work with the image. 2. Read about what you're dealing with. This may consume some tome, but it really helps understanding what the problem is, and therefore helps finding a solution. This is the part of the story that I know from my own desaster. :-) But as soon as you encounter hardware problems with the disk, you should try to find a recovery lab you can trust. It can be a very complicated search, and the result will traditionally also be expensive. This is the case when they can do something you can't do on yourself (e. g. disasselmbling a disk, exchanging heads in a clean-room environment) - it's mostly a matter of dealing with hardware. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 19:40:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DD11065670 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 19:40:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196FC8FC18 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 19:40:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so5385698iyj.13 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 12:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.163.138 with SMTP id c10mr6847187icy.269.1306006820692; Sat, 21 May 2011 12:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tech304 (supranet-tech.secure-on.net [66.170.8.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hk9sm1340438icb.21.2011.05.21.12.40.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 21 May 2011 12:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201105211914.p4LJEdGg091107@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 14:40:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Mark Felder" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <201105211914.p4LJEdGg091107@fire.js.berklix.net> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.50 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: Hardware Recovery Company X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 19:40:22 -0000 On Sat, 21 May 2011 14:14:39 -0500, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >> I really trust the people on this list so hopefully you can point me >> to a real and non-bullshit lab that can really recover data. Gillware, Inc. Here's a referral code as well: 13967 http://www.gillware.com/ Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 19:52:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6603B106566B for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 19:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26158FC12 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 19:52:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p5DCBD9CA.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.217.202]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p4LJqedw025549; Sat, 21 May 2011 19:52:40 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p4LJqTeZ084772; Sat, 21 May 2011 21:52:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p4LJqHcX091659; Sat, 21 May 2011 21:52:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201105211952.p4LJqHcX091659@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Polytropon From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sat, 21 May 2011 21:31:12 +0200." <20110521213112.ebcf1b39.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 21:52:17 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Alejandro Imass , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Hardware Recovery Company X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 19:52:44 -0000 Hi Polytropon cc list, you wrote > > You could look at man fsdb > > FreeBSD offers a lot of versatile diagnostic and rescue > tools, and surely fsdb is one of them. Others, provided > by the base system, are "fetch -rR " and also > recoverdisk. > > In the ports collection you'll find tools like ddrescue, > dd_rescue, ffs2recov, magicrescue, testdisk, scan_ffs, > recoverjpeg, foremost and photorec. And finally there is > The Sleuth Kit (with its tools fls, dls, ils and autopsy). Could you please submit a send-pr to add that useful list to man fsdb ? (If you dont want to i would, but as you obviously know this area better ... :-) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, Not HTML, Not base 64. Reply below text sections not at top, to avoid breaking cumulative context. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 20:13:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289BA106564A for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 20:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EC88FC08 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 20:13:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (pD9FBFCEB.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.252.235]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p4LKDMUA025750 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 20:13:23 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p4LKDCwP084859 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 22:13:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p4LKD8uR091928 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 22:13:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201105212013.p4LKD8uR091928@fire.js.berklix.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sat, 21 May 2011 14:40:18 CDT." Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 22:13:08 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Subject: Other lists exist too - Was Re: Hardware Recovery Company X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 20:13:25 -0000 For Alejandro Imass as original poster re. Hardware Recovery Company: FreebSD has a special mail list for file systeme it's name is fs@freebsd.org. (we also have hardware@ etc) For all, Questions@ started as a catch all fallback address for simple beginners questions from the newly installed, who didn't know / hadn't yet read http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL to find where more exactly one might ask a question. Recently questions@ seems to be performing roughly the same purpose as hackers@ list, a random jamboree/ mellange of topics, which doesnt make much sense to me (where theyre posted, not the content of the questions), I think a lot of questions@ traffic would be better posted to hackers@ or other themed @freebsd.org lists. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, Not HTML, Not base 64. Reply below text sections not at top, to avoid breaking cumulative context. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 17:25:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1053C106566B; Sat, 21 May 2011 17:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eirnym@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0559A8FC12; Sat, 21 May 2011 17:25:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so5255985bwz.13 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 10:25:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=1fJOioKmFdYe+OffBsSes0hHOsW7xaPqWga5WO7yqns=; b=bdSx4xiASZEPY399lhbaeiOll5R91Z42VjGdmgyuiNVDvwZ+w+vA1+RPCXA1E8ne5+ 5eQF+Ri8l62chfljBi735d9vtk8suY2m8eKiWZ2LyPBqxQNEyLPnxOu7jW441Wst1ViA aXYd1i6Sj28HXO8sBA0QovpKfICcED8RZ4lR0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=UB5MUyeAIVcngtjWjXz6CM3gR+T1Pz5bLuiXEQNwP3g/nFj3zeLdnwugfq3Xo6m+pv kWXrjjWqhw2F30Yk6vbTvjwCM0AXkVSmzNAWIsgkXa+nCgS1//XDBvEgFhattOTZbAEK OYTzEEK5baldl+xNZ/1srw9qtrY4IgeGaGJ6E= Received: by 10.204.231.198 with SMTP id jr6mr613026bkb.205.1305997372152; Sat, 21 May 2011 10:02:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.122.73 with HTTP; Sat, 21 May 2011 10:02:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110518105627.0b7afe48.itetcu@FreeBSD.org> References: <20110517103858.9cccf61a.itetcu@FreeBSD.org> <20110517160141.A1E121CC0B@ptavv.es.net> <20110517214614.00004f32@unknown> <20110518105627.0b7afe48.itetcu@FreeBSD.org> From: Eir Nym Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 17:02:32 +0000 Message-ID: To: Ion-Mihai Tetcu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 21 May 2011 21:06:28 +0000 Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, Alexander Leidinger , freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Skype with sound and video support :) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 17:25:18 -0000 On 18 May 2011 07:56, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > On Tue, 17 May 2011 21:46:14 +0200 > Alexander Leidinger wrote: > >> On Tue, 17 May 2011 09:01:41 -0700 "Kevin Oberman" >> wrote: >> >> >> > Please put the information in this message (or at least most of it) >> > into ports/UPDATING so a few less people running old kernels will be >> > bitten by the installation of the new Skype port. >> >> And what about a wiki page? This way we can extend it in case something >> important is uncovered. > > I'm not opposed to it, but I don't see the need for it at this time. > (Plus, I'd like to keep everything inside the port - hence the longish > pkg-message - less steps to go through this way). > Wiki page is good point to look when searching internet about skype and freebsd. > -- > Ion-Mihai Tetcu > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-multimedia > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-multimedia-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 21:59:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95571065673 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 21:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from mf1.socket.net (mf1.socket.net [216.106.88.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D53A8FC12 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 21:59:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [216.106.88.17]) by mf1.socket.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DDA874040A; Sat, 21 May 2011 16:59:25 -0500 (CDT) To: claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jhall@socket.net X-Apparently-from: jhall@mail.socket.net X-Remote-Host: 216.106.31.249 User-Agent: Socket WebMail References: <20110521143347.215E2106564A@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 16:59:25 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20110521215926.B95571065673@hub.freebsd.org> Cc: Subject: Re: Re: IPSec routing (long post) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jhall@socket.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 21:59:26 -0000 ---------------------------------------------------- >From : claudiu vasadi To : jhall@socket.net Subject : Re: IPSec routing (long post) Date : Sat, 21 May 2011 18:45:07 +0200 Some additional points: > - have you been following the FreeBSD handbook on this ? -> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ipsec.html > - pls post your ifconfig interface settings > - you can use "tcpdump" to sniff traffic off of your "real" network > interface (tcpdump (-v) -i host and dst > ) > - do you have "options IPSEC" and "device crypto" in your kernel ? My understanding is the handbook was using tunnel mode to connect the networks, and I am using transport mode. Are these the same, and I am misunderstanding what I am reading. Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 22:44:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716ED106566B for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 22:44:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8CD8FC15 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 22:44:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yie12 with SMTP id 12so2168015yie.13 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 15:44:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FuNYzeIgoo+y/Y48hpyPTZIOpiwO0a0RlxztDu7yRr4=; b=V4boewLFX3DbsT0wFjNGvi1MxYFutE79NpNI2qE1hA17JwXZbOGHVDn5V+4XSFwpX7 CkHsEybboDX8NSU38SDkPKs1qkBN3kB32Z1BEn8/WQXyE5dSrU7gV2d1EupLjLDBnO62 4Ihz2n5n8f498ICFTUngeyaJU4QMXNC1gaR+U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=o1LZ9+5zU3Ipq0QK401q1rR3kLWB+Piyzghilgt2cm+S/nisMwW78gb6oh+2yKoseH d74HXWnYEc+umQF/fv/Zk1Y4KfDzjwaMOCDM0dQqkm+Y0hgD7tsIlBL5HCFal6OcK48o wOSysUch/TY4TkIrudnryAlxTJee/CxMeYFFI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.183.2 with SMTP id k2mr3419389anp.7.1306017871026; Sat, 21 May 2011 15:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.48.6 with HTTP; Sat, 21 May 2011 15:44:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201105212013.p4LKD8uR091928@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <201105212013.p4LKD8uR091928@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 18:44:30 -0400 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Other lists exist too - Was Re: Hardware Recovery Company X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 22:44:32 -0000 On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Questions@ started as a catch all fallback address for simple beginners > questions from the newly installed, who didn't know / =A0hadn't yet read > =A0http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html > =A0http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.h= tml#ERESOURCES-MAIL > to find where more exactly one might ask a question. > > Recently questions@ seems to be performing roughly the same purpose > as hackers@ list, a random jamboree/ mellange of topics, which > doesnt make much sense to me (where theyre posted, not the content > of the questions), I think a lot of questions@ traffic would be > better posted to hackers@ or other themed @freebsd.org lists. Perhaps the text of the list charters in the handbook along with the short descriptions should be changed to reflect this, or at least clarify it. I have used FreeBSD for about 10 years, but I would never have thought to post to freebsd-hackers because the description is "This is a forum for technical discussions related to FreeBSD. This is the primary technical mailing list. It is for individuals actively working on FreeBSD, to bring up problems or discuss alternative solutions. Individuals interested in following the technical discussion are also welcome. This is a technical mailing list for which strictly technical content is expected." That's a pretty scary description. I have not even subscribed to the list, let alone lurked there or posted there due to that description. That description conjures an image of DES and PHK discussing the kernel and the color of its bikeshed. Now, the freebsd-questions list has the following description: "This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send =93how to=94 questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical." Now, the second sentence sounds like another do-not-disturb sign for the technical lists. So, according to the descriptions, it seems like this is the appropriate place for the jamboree. Perhaps the situation that you want is to have two lists, one for newbies, and another for the initiated. So, one solution would be to change the charter for freebsd-hackers to make it a bit less high-level. Another solution would be to create a new list freebsd- that would serve as a place to ask questions if you are not a newbie. I have a third solution. Leave everything the way it is. Having a jamboree with newbies and more versed people is good. Newbies can ask questions, non-newbies can ask questions, and importantly newbies can ramp up to answering questions they know the answer to. all in the same forum. Lastly, the description for freebsd-fs is "Discussions concerning FreeBSD file systems. This is a technical mailing list for which strictly technical content is expected." Asking for recommendations for a data recovery service (which is what the OP's message was) does not belong in freebsd-fs. The discussion may have evolved into a discussion that belongs on freebsd-fs, but that's only natural. All questions asked here will probably evolve into discussions that fit better on one of the various technical lists. In my opinion there has to be a free-for-all area where no type of questions are discouraged as you have in your message. As long as the question is about FreeBSD, it is allowed. How to eat a Yubari melon probably does not belong here, but other than keeping it to FreeBSD, I see no problems with the way it is now.