From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 14 11:07:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B9F1065694 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BD58FC08 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:07:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p1EB7EUn077321 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:07:14 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p1EB7DZf077317 for freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:07:13 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:07:13 GMT Message-Id: <201102141107.p1EB7DZf077317@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:07:14 -0000 Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o bin/154613 sysinstall sysinstall(8) does not rescan USB automatically o bin/153809 sysinstall [patch] sysinstall(8): Choose Distributions screen, co o bin/151229 sysinstall sysinstall(8) - shift-tab doesn't work as expected o bin/150995 sysinstall sysinstall(8): corruption of partition table s bin/150237 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Suggestion: installer should suggest th o bin/148805 sysinstall [hang] FreeBSD 7.2, 8.0, and 9.0 hang during install a f bin/148220 sysinstall sysinstall(8): 9.0-current gets "Cannot resolv hostnam o bin/148201 sysinstall sysinstall(8): core dump (Error 10) while trying to in o bin/148053 sysinstall sysinstall(8) labeling o bin/146299 sysinstall sysinstall(8): cannot create slice o bin/145735 sysinstall sysinstall(8) trashes Vista-created partition tables o bin/145027 sysinstall Remove all sysinstall(8) references to floppy and slip o bin/144278 sysinstall [install] Fixit from USB dont work o bin/142867 sysinstall sysinstall(8): in a custom installation re-entering th o misc/142335 sysinstall Download of Release 8.0 LIVE is NOT a "live" from CD p o bin/140843 sysinstall sysinstall(8): cannot software install from usb o bin/140842 sysinstall sysinstall(8): destroyed ncurses interface with FBSD8. o bin/140595 sysinstall [request] sysinstall(8): Replace "Country Selection" w o bin/138423 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Installer (and sade) get wrong number o o bin/138025 sysinstall sysinstall(8) fails to create big partition o bin/137864 sysinstall [patch] sysinstall(8): add possibility to shutdown/pow o bin/137713 sysinstall sysinstall(8): installer partition editor generates in f bin/136161 sysinstall sysinstall(8) installs wrong architecture on amd64 o bin/134425 sysinstall sysinstall(8) custom distributions select all and dese o bin/129762 sysinstall sysinstall(8) doesn't seem to support GPT for EFI boar s bin/123304 sysinstall sysinstall(8): missing sensible and user friendly prog o bin/121503 sysinstall sysinstall(8): 7.0 upgrade doesn't let me mount all of a bin/121124 sysinstall sysinstall(8): FreeBSD 6.3 installation deletes MBR pa o bin/119077 sysinstall [patch] sysinstall(8) - reading packages from index is o bin/113979 sysinstall [patch] sysinstall(8) does not support UFS1 filesystem o bin/113682 sysinstall [patch] sysinstall(8) warns for invalid geometry which o bin/112757 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall(8): in the FDISK tool we can o bin/110151 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall(8) don't respects install ro o bin/108191 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Disklabel editor help text (by F1 key) o bin/107830 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Change Units (Z) in fdisk doesn't work p bin/102638 sysinstall [patch] sysinstall(8): custom dist set always install o bin/102498 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Cursor doesn't track sysinstall hilight a bin/101762 sysinstall sysinstall(8) does not obey /usr/ports symlink while i o bin/97108 sysinstall sysinstall(8): write failure on transfer (wrote -1 byt o bin/93275 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Failure to install after restarting ins o bin/90656 sysinstall sysinstall(8): 6.0-RELEASE (i386) cannot be installed s bin/86859 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Installer should ask about Linux earlie o bin/86454 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall terminates with signal 10 if o bin/80371 sysinstall cannot install 5.4-RC3 from DOS partition o bin/79910 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Cannot escape from failed port/package o bin/79840 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Partitioning and formating a new disk f o bin/79621 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall(8) does not create a device o bin/78964 sysinstall sysinstall(8): can not write labels to hdd on installa s bin/73617 sysinstall sysinstall(8): fdisk editor unmarks active partition f bin/73511 sysinstall sysinstall(8): SCSI drive install failure - RC2 o bin/73410 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Sysinstall could not allocate disklabel o bin/72895 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Sysinstall generates invalid partition o bin/70002 sysinstall sysinstall(8): fails to locate FTP dirs if the OS has o bin/69986 sysinstall sysinstall(8): [patch] no job control in fixit shell o o bin/69942 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall changes /etc/rc.conf after i o bin/69723 sysinstall sysinstall(8): [request] allow to continue from packag o bin/62702 sysinstall sysinstall(8): backup of /etc and /root during sysinst o bin/62367 sysinstall sysinstall(8): 5.2.1-RC installation problems o alpha/61940 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Can't disklabel new disk from FreeBSD/a o bin/61890 sysinstall sysinstall(8): fdisk(8) uses incorrect calculations fo o bin/61603 sysinstall sysinstall(8): wrong geometry guessed o bin/60632 sysinstall sysinstall(8): UI bug in partition label screen in sys o bin/59708 sysinstall sysinstall(8): [patch] add sSMTP support for Mail sele o bin/53341 sysinstall sysinstall(8): [patch] dump frequency in sysinstall is o bin/48989 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Sysinstall's partition editor gets con s bin/48341 sysinstall sysinstall(8): changes the active slice flag when it p o bin/46905 sysinstall sysinstall(8): FreeBSD 5.x cannot be installed from mu f bin/46235 sysinstall sysinstall(8): NTP servers for Finland require updatin o bin/42162 sysinstall sysinstall(8): after restart, installation crashes, md o bin/41949 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall sorts /etc/rc.conf during ne o bin/41850 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall fails to create root filesys f bin/40260 sysinstall sysinstall(8): hang when detecting devices (No CD/DVD s conf/39580 sysinstall sysinstall(8): [request] more secure mount options o bin/38854 sysinstall sysinstall(8): resetting during setup causes the targe s bin/38609 sysinstall sysinstall(8): [request] sysinstall should know the si o bin/38478 sysinstall sysinstall(8): In Choose Distributions screen, it's di o bin/38057 sysinstall sysinstall(8): "install" document doesn't display corr o bin/38056 sysinstall sysinstall(8): User (creation)'s "Member groups" item o bin/38055 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Groups (creation) item should be before o bin/37710 sysinstall sysinstall(8): LAN interface in wrong state after atte a bin/32375 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall doesn't respect User generat o bin/31363 sysinstall sysinstall(8): "partition editor" silently corrects pa a bin/30737 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall leaks file descriptors on re o bin/29375 sysinstall sysinstall(8): disk editor gets confused by slices tha a bin/23402 sysinstall sysinstall(8): upgrade ought to check partition sizes o bin/16948 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall/disklabel: bad partition tab o bin/15038 sysinstall sysinstall(8): easy to not notice that selection lists s bin/7232 sysinstall sysinstall(8): suggestion for FreeBSD installation dia 88 problems total. From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 18 15:46:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355CD106564A; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:46:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from adsum.doit.wisc.edu (adsum.doit.wisc.edu [144.92.197.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070E18FC08; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:46:43 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from avs-daemon.smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu by smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) id <0LGT00H14L5VV200@smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu>; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:46:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from comporellon.tachypleus.net (adsl-76-208-68-88.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net [76.208.68.88]) by smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0LGT00FUEL5RRT00@smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu>; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:46:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:46:39 -0600 From: Nathan Whitehorn In-reply-to: <4D35CFFB.3010302@freebsd.org> To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Message-id: <4D5E945F.60106@freebsd.org> X-Spam-Report: AuthenticatedSender=yes, SenderIP=76.208.68.88 X-Spam-PmxInfo: Server=avs-13, Version=5.6.0.2009776, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2011.2.18.153620, SenderIP=76.208.68.88 References: <4D35CFFB.3010302@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101214 Thunderbird/3.1.7 Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installer Roadmap X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:46:44 -0000 On 01/18/11 11:38, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > This plan ensures that we have a minimum of three months of testing of > the new installer on snapshot media before the 9.0 release, which > should ensure a minimum of bugs. I would also like to point out that > there are no roads in this map that end up with us having sysinstall > as the default installer past the 18th of February. After 15 years of > sysinstall being "greatly in need of death", it will finally be time > to retire it. Today is the 18th of February. Josh Paetzel and I (mostly him) have done a significant amount of infrastructural work required to do the bsdinstall/pc-sysinstall merge, but it is not quite done yet, so I have imported bsdinstall into HEAD with its own backend. As per the original roadmap, we will now continue work on merging (first retaining the bsdinstall partition editor backend combined with the rest of pc-sysinstall) while simultaneously working on release integration and bug fixes for bsdinstall. Many thanks to everyone who provided test results and feedback. Recent test ISOs can be found at the BSDInstall wiki page at http://wiki.freebsd.org/BSDInstall for amd64, i386, powerpc, powerpc64, and sparc64. -Nathan From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 19 03:34:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1256F106566B; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 03:34:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dteske@vicor.com) Received: from postoffice.vicor.com (postoffice.vicor.com [69.26.56.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00BA8FC08; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 03:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [210.177.209.182] (port=13628 helo=[192.168.1.151]) by postoffice.vicor.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pqd7i-0006x4-Dj; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:04:46 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) From: Devin Teske In-Reply-To: <4D5E945F.60106@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:04:39 -0800 Message-Id: <61079648-D76C-4699-AC4D-F6EBE64ABFFC@vicor.com> References: <4D35CFFB.3010302@freebsd.org> <4D5E945F.60106@freebsd.org> To: Nathan Whitehorn X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-Scan-Signature: 2f29950d470aac1890067ac5925e7e97 X-Scan-Host: postoffice.vicor.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installer Roadmap X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 03:34:39 -0000 On Feb 18, 2011, at 7:46 AM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > On 01/18/11 11:38, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: >> This plan ensures that we have a minimum of three months of testing = of the new installer on snapshot media before the 9.0 release, which = should ensure a minimum of bugs. I would also like to point out that = there are no roads in this map that end up with us having sysinstall as = the default installer past the 18th of February. After 15 years of = sysinstall being "greatly in need of death", it will finally be time to = retire it. >=20 > Today is the 18th of February. Josh Paetzel and I (mostly him) have = done a significant amount of infrastructural work required to do the = bsdinstall/pc-sysinstall merge, but it is not quite done yet, so I have = imported bsdinstall into HEAD with its own backend. As per the original = roadmap, we will now continue work on merging (first retaining the = bsdinstall partition editor backend combined with the rest of = pc-sysinstall) while simultaneously working on release integration and = bug fixes for bsdinstall. >=20 > Many thanks to everyone who provided test results and feedback. Recent = test ISOs can be found at the BSDInstall wiki page at = http://wiki.freebsd.org/BSDInstall for amd64, i386, powerpc, powerpc64, = and sparc64. > -Nathan I've been following this (and related) threads for months (regarding = alternatives to sysinstall), and yet I am still hesitant to write this = e-mail (perhaps unnecessarily-so)(that is to say, that I've been biting = our collective tongue until now). However, the fact remains that this is = perhaps going to raise some ire (or perhaps the opposite ... maybe = people will like what I have to say), and for that I apologize in = advance. Okay, here we go. I -- having a _deep_ love and respect for sysinstall and further having = spent many years of my life in the deep annals of its twisted home-grown = code base -- plan to create/manage/maintain a 3rd-party distribution = installer that continues to use sysinstall to install the later (assumed = bsdinstall-based) versions of FreeBSD. There are many reasons for this, and none of them are selfish (although = it remains possible to drum-up some selfish reason, all of the reasons = behind our motivation are in-fact unselfish). Truth-be-told, I welcome = the replacement of sysinstall but am very wary that ANY replacement will = be able to exactly replicate the hardware compatibility that sysinstall = currently enjoys. I do indeed envision a great celebration as FreeBSD-9 = bucks sysinstall but also at the same time have nightmares of receiving = waves of calls from people having trouble (for example) "installing = FreeBSD-9 on their AMD K6 based system, circa long-long-ago in a = universe far-far-away." (yes, we do have data centers running that very = equipment with uptime in the 1,000's of days). This project is simply to give people an alternative as bugs are = ironed-out in the new installer. A quick note however... this project will _NOT_ be continued in = perpetuity. That is to say that I will only offer a sysinstall-based = alternative to the newest releases using bsdinstall for a limited time. = How limited? Until I can get our "universal installler" migrated over to = the new install platform AND prove that said new installer can work on = *every* machine that we employ in production. That being said, we may be = looking at years of offerings (no less than one, but beit far-fetched = for me to consider maintaining this longer than 3-4 years; *self-check* = I just _know_ I'm going to eat those words some day). The code to keep this running has already been developed in-house and = will be published in the next 6 months on = http://druidbsd.sourceforge.net/ The long and the short of this is... with a large distribution of over = 1,000 FreeBSD systems running in production (that's an = ultra-conservative estimate by the way), we will be damned-sad to see = sysinstall bite the dust yet eagerly await the day we can perform = real-world tests with the newer installer -- however until then we are = fully intending on extending the life of sysinstall to service our = customer's production-level requirements (sysinstall has served us well, = so we intend to return the favor by extending its life -- and we hope = that there are people out there that have the same sentiments about this = aged-but-rock-solid code). --=20 Cheers, Devin P.S. Call us luddites, call us slow-movers, but don't call us haters ^_^ = (I for one welcome our new bsdinstall overlords -- we just need more = time for the transition but don't want to be pigeon-holed into running = FreeBSD-8.x as our last production OS simply because the FreeBSD-9 = installer is different). P.P.S. I've got _no_ idea what kind of response I'm going to get from = this. But (holds up a snifter of sherry), here's to hoping that someone = out there will be sounding the trumpets in favor of someone willing to = carry on the legacy! (hey, I'm all for advancement, but there's = something to be said for paying homage to your roots). > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-sysinstall > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-sysinstall-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Cheers, Devin Teske -> CONTACT INFORMATION <- Business Solutions Consultant II FIS - fisglobal.com 510-735-5650 Mobile 510-621-2038 Office 510-621-2020 Office Fax 909-477-4578 Home/Fax devin.teske@fisglobal.com -> LEGAL DISCLAIMER <- This message contains confidential and proprietary information of the sender, and is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. Any use, distribution, copying or disclosure by any other person is strictly prohibited. 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Truth-be-told, I welcome the >> replacement of sysinstall but am very wary that ANY replacement will be able >> to exactly replicate the hardware compatibility that sysinstall currently >> enjoys. I do indeed envision a great celebration as FreeBSD-9 bucks >> sysinstall but also at the same time have nightmares of receiving waves of >> calls from people having trouble (for example) "installing FreeBSD-9 on >> their AMD K6 based system, circa long-long-ago in a universe far-far-away." >> (yes, we do have data centers running that very equipment with uptime in the >> 1,000's of days). >> > I'm sure I'm not fully aware of the situation at your data center, but would > systems that have 1,000+ day uptimes be candidates for upgrade to FreeBSD 9? > It seems that if a system has that kind of uptime, it's a high priority > server and uptime needs to be maintained. > > Maybe it would be possible to have both sysinstall and bsdinstall on the > same install medium? It may. If it is possible without enormous difficulty, this is something that should certainly be in place for 9.0. If it isn't possible, it may be a good idea to provide a second set of media with sysinstall for those who want it. I think that in any case, it is extremely unlikely that sysinstall will be entirely disconnected from the build before the release. As regards the original posting, I totally share Devin's concern about wide hardware compatibility, including with very old hardware, and wish him the best of luck with sysinstall life support! As for bsdinstall, I have taken a substantial amount of effort to ensure that bsdinstall work on older hardware (I have tested it on a VT220 at 9600 baud connected to a 13-year-old Sun Ultra 5) and would regard it failing in any way on any hardware on which FreeBSD will boot as a serious bug. -Nathan From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 19 04:35:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC17106566B; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 04:35:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lattera@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64378FC0A; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 04:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so4333180wwf.31 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:35:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=9GUKhYlLbyG/BJC/6dQQaxgyGXeq2iFTB1+jbQB2jNw=; b=cOTCwf4fcJSDKk5qFaOsZlvtUniIEgzy6DKCN8dPWtpIbS1kzCNX2fT0ryFSPoWPLB Oq9mvmRNiySM8yueUPt4C8qvzoNAOc82A7A2B5I9R1sy4VGz/r1+eZZu/OVRHqs0G+Lo cNAUKXhsaFUvs50A1K8DOuN6xhCbpThKoCVXk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=kQu7CsWKAkx+JDJRSF/Uy1X0eAs122Nu62iUVAl7qxDCBMznsA26IRMpFc2HVRBsxE 5V7U/jaNGKILWG2FUH49FiXp9jFm6ozxcYyZoITDysnKEolFSHXPG86/i813y7TAXLLy F0yHcbcQ1qLfEXJFSZjD6LpcFxVXuPLLWGGM4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.9.222 with SMTP id m30mr1340194wbm.211.1298088716916; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:11:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.68.204 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:11:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <61079648-D76C-4699-AC4D-F6EBE64ABFFC@vicor.com> References: <4D35CFFB.3010302@freebsd.org> <4D5E945F.60106@freebsd.org> <61079648-D76C-4699-AC4D-F6EBE64ABFFC@vicor.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 21:11:56 -0700 Message-ID: From: Shawn Webb To: Devin Teske Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installer Roadmap X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 04:35:49 -0000 > There are many reasons for this, and none of them are selfish (although it > remains possible to drum-up some selfish reason, all of the reasons behind > our motivation are in-fact unselfish). Truth-be-told, I welcome the > replacement of sysinstall but am very wary that ANY replacement will be able > to exactly replicate the hardware compatibility that sysinstall currently > enjoys. I do indeed envision a great celebration as FreeBSD-9 bucks > sysinstall but also at the same time have nightmares of receiving waves of > calls from people having trouble (for example) "installing FreeBSD-9 on > their AMD K6 based system, circa long-long-ago in a universe far-far-away." > (yes, we do have data centers running that very equipment with uptime in the > 1,000's of days). > I'm sure I'm not fully aware of the situation at your data center, but would systems that have 1,000+ day uptimes be candidates for upgrade to FreeBSD 9? It seems that if a system has that kind of uptime, it's a high priority server and uptime needs to be maintained. Maybe it would be possible to have both sysinstall and bsdinstall on the same install medium? Thanks, Shawn Webb From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 19 06:13:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84B0106564A; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 06:13:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D35B8FC18; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 06:13:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p1J6De4b073572; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 06:13:40 GMT (envelope-from linimon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p1J6Devq073568; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 06:13:40 GMT (envelope-from linimon) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 06:13:40 GMT Message-Id: <201102190613.p1J6Devq073568@freefall.freebsd.org> To: linimon@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org From: linimon@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: bin/154788: sysinstall(8) crashes if no network interface found X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 06:13:40 -0000 Old Synopsis: FreeBSD sysinstall crashes if no network interface found New Synopsis: sysinstall(8) crashes if no network interface found Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-sysinstall Responsible-Changed-By: linimon Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Feb 19 06:13:21 UTC 2011 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to maintainer(s). http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=154788 From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 19 08:45:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98BA31065673; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:45:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (unknown [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2700B8FC12; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:45:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AEAE81CA; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:45:05 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=from:to :subject:date:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; s=mail; bh=v 0g3w/9olMaseMM1nZzRpksB8TY=; b=uv8O9+XeMoVn/JysRNm80CUvRiQ3FjVx6 GDeAMSt8yTmGsS7hFXxRU/o7FsfcdJAGawEO2S3qUlJmg5ltHhlC9KdlKH79w8NT x6Hg/WCYvOrKEJdueyqGNxWXRpg2innQ95s0lwpukk+1UOCy10FST/eDYeeBz7F5 bHPSVvHc94= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=from:to :subject:date:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; q=dns; s= mail; b=QZZjT2IfBLoQC3F2+/oJp7MqPKGCa2AlLv6MlUk9NszcoWZ9t9viRcWJ kubgwJY0h6u+WCqT/AzrA9ns4/YXi/q9gtAedzWq1P8v0lKv+ehYM/EpQFCLudb1 Hrd09uDxoX5UaB+7X1olZYwVy/ZeZ7O/NLHG3BR+ihbkgoTxhyw= Received: from core.nessbank (client-86-31-177-138.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.31.177.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 04AD4E8189; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:45:05 +0000 (GMT) From: Bruce Cran To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:44:42 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/9.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: <4D35CFFB.3010302@freebsd.org> <4D5E945F.60106@freebsd.org> <61079648-D76C-4699-AC4D-F6EBE64ABFFC@vicor.com> In-Reply-To: <61079648-D76C-4699-AC4D-F6EBE64ABFFC@vicor.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201102190844.43267.bruce@cran.org.uk> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installer Roadmap X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:45:11 -0000 On Saturday 19 February 2011 03:04:39 Devin Teske wrote: > There are many reasons for this, and none of them are selfish (although it > remains possible to drum-up some selfish reason, all of the reasons behind > our motivation are in-fact unselfish). Truth-be-told, I welcome the > replacement of sysinstall but am very wary that ANY replacement will be > able to exactly replicate the hardware compatibility that sysinstall > currently enjoys. I do indeed envision a great celebration as FreeBSD-9 > bucks sysinstall but also at the same time have nightmares of receiving > waves of calls from people having trouble (for example) "installing > FreeBSD-9 on their AMD K6 based system, circa long-long-ago in a universe > far-far-away." (yes, we do have data centers running that very equipment > with uptime in the 1,000's of days). I think bsdinstall as it currently is is simple enough that there shouldn't be any compatibility issues: it uses gpart for partitioning, runs tools like tzsetup to configure settings etc. so there's far less to go wrong than sysinstall's custom code which for example could crash on the "probing devices" screen. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 19 09:09:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7BB1065670; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:09:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brucec@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905378FC15; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:09:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p1J997Lk085401; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:09:07 GMT (envelope-from brucec@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from brucec@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p1J997Un085397; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:09:07 GMT (envelope-from brucec) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:09:07 GMT Message-Id: <201102190909.p1J997Un085397@freefall.freebsd.org> To: snabb@epipe.com, brucec@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org, brucec@FreeBSD.org From: brucec@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: bin/153809: [patch] sysinstall(8): Choose Distributions screen, conflicting selection key A X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:09:07 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] sysinstall(8): Choose Distributions screen, conflicting selection key A State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: brucec State-Changed-When: Sat Feb 19 09:08:40 UTC 2011 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in HEAD. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-sysinstall->brucec Responsible-Changed-By: brucec Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Feb 19 09:08:40 UTC 2011 Responsible-Changed-Why: Take. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=153809 From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 19 09:34:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03CE1065693; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:34:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brucec@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53A18FC1D; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p1J9YLwV016881; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:34:21 GMT (envelope-from brucec@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from brucec@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p1J9YK4L016877; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:34:20 GMT (envelope-from brucec) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:34:20 GMT Message-Id: <201102190934.p1J9YK4L016877@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dsanderson@panasas.com, brucec@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org, brucec@FreeBSD.org From: brucec@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: bin/113979: [patch] sysinstall(8) does not support UFS1 filesystems in install.cfg X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:34:21 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] sysinstall(8) does not support UFS1 filesystems in install.cfg State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: brucec State-Changed-When: Sat Feb 19 09:33:57 UTC 2011 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in HEAD. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-sysinstall->brucec Responsible-Changed-By: brucec Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Feb 19 09:33:57 UTC 2011 Responsible-Changed-Why: Take. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=113979 From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 19 09:58:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B171065673; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:58:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84028FC17; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj8 with SMTP id 8so217778pwj.13 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 01:58:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Qv4u9ltVgNyvA7dKVj8nSSCffm5ZZp3veH6Mx7djFq4=; b=Nm9h6qVyt5zxu5vDJHOj1xx/SAPXte4TMM/6BH6omMPY3aYUeX9cZd40HEqZ2HTSYD 91LEc/Ig3TbmBu0z4N22woE44u0c4r+BTpgD5vzlDozoJTqOQ3tlAN0nIv7rryJg7m3r WBxKZVgASTqvX1yeHURW4bJZ4qzemocfdFl78= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=G5w2p5wLjFPvoysk/75CFq1GJqu96cjK3DT381i2xO05nTHailgRQlVeA10DAjC+mV +SqmmNlHyJYx+C1nOAN2Rshoya97yvREb/fWUsLnlmGZlc6ioM7wOtwYCuZGKjUy/zkG XSancPe6xtWNoRExt4Q75SVPJOOeDD22it0w8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.13.8 with SMTP id 8mr1285484wfm.133.1298108051640; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 01:34:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.128.18 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 01:34:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 04:34:11 -0500 Message-ID: From: grarpamp To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD Installer Roadmap X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:58:49 -0000 Sysinstall is fine, as I'm sure any replacement will be. So I'll just note a few things I'd like to see in any such replacement... 1 - I used install.cfg's on floppies to clone systems, a lot. Hands on the box were needed with that. Operators skills were in question, so having them use the dialog menus properly was a pain and often resulted in non-zeroed disk or half built systems. And though all else was cloned, it needed a separate .cfg for each box due to: fqdn, gateway, ip/mask interface - sometimes changed root disk - sometimes changed Would have killed for a simple console shell script to ask those questions of the operator, per machine. 2 - Being able to skip, replace, or prefix/suffix each stage of whatever the installer would do with a shell script (ala: distSetCustom local) would be cool. 3 - Options to dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/[x] bs=1m, where x are any boot sectors, drives, slices, partitions, labels, etc that would otherwise be blown away but not fully wiped beforehand. And a request for some remaining bugs to be fixed, implemented anew or figured out... 1 - Setting debug=yes was great[a], up until you tried to get that resultant file off the system or view it. Due to the way things were mounted with mfsroot and the alt-f4 shell being separate, I never did figure out how to do that. [a] - only when calling /stand/sysinstall from your development box to test your install.cfg, and the install process. Not when actually installing a box. 2 - mediaClose - didn't work right. I couldn't get the base distribution bits from one ftp server, and the local distribution bits from another. And in general, I'll cheer for whichever camps are doing... As opposed to mfsroot, boot a stripped kernel, on real filesystem, with init to shell to installer. and installroot things from there. Some sort of plaintext backend that can read a config. Pluggable frontends, at minimum 80x25 console shell, then dialog/web/xorg/whatever. Network boot, retrieve config via net, etc. It would be cool to have an 'installer build' config option set available during buildworld too. Much like you can configure crunchgen to customize the crunch, you could customize certain parts of how you wanted the installer to work. Particularly for things that might take up space, what it thinks are its first places to get input, boot from, display, where to find its config while blind, etc. And a stripped buildworld kernel config for use with the installer. Call it just more permutations on the liveCD concept. From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 19 13:00:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29041065674; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:00:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (unknown [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F85D8FC1D; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96104E81CA; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:00:27 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=pATAmUuQY6rD 6mEGr1YaiHFa5Hs=; b=a/Ccbiz2hbCWamt89LM2+8RArddU/IBv0fEwfS7yZwj2 D8q9liXPdF1kDPcXLRoDnRsEPMKhJJb2JuKT9d32yILBKB+fJ8TfbWHQxVctiuDD s1XPGnQa7RqF4DVTNWOMlyB6lJLs+E4SfQXLug1C2PvllsryAPy2mMuTvJGrgoA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from:to :cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=on52EP stFHZ/cw0bigUORuXh6Q4z7+crSoO+imryDMvyhL9wcnstL8QdLyIBczoOrpayhJ 6WIOahsDq1+NdXOVs2EN6keMw1jaigqhTbclpZ4ICjQ8+zxGglJnHROiTJOOA+TH 6SmDRIgfftzW+f7vIjYWb30miiivVDg/gRkFU= Received: from unknown (client-86-31-177-138.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.31.177.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5AA96E8150; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:00:27 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:00:03 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: Nathan Whitehorn Message-ID: <20110219130003.00003a64@unknown> In-Reply-To: <4D433CE7.5040706@freebsd.org> References: <4D433CE7.5040706@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8cvs9 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New BSDinstall ISOs X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:00:31 -0000 On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:02:15 -0600 Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > Following requests from many people, it is now possible to revise > setup for the new OS after going through the configuration steps and > before committing and rebooting (this is *almost* a back button). > ISOs for i386 and amd64 that implement this change, as well as > several other improvements, can be found here: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-i386-20110128.iso.bz2 > http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-amd64-20110128.iso.bz2 Using the version from 2011-02-05 I've found an issue in the partitioner. An installation failed so I rebooted and chose Guided again. That failed because there wasn't enough space so I went into the editor, deleted the entire table (I chose ad0 and pressed Delete) then Auto. After confirming that I wanted to overwrite it I got an error "Device not configured". Despite this it seemed to have worked. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 19 14:40:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5002E10657B7; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:40:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brucec@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C7D8FC16; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:40:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p1JEeFEd051062; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:40:15 GMT (envelope-from brucec@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from brucec@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p1JEeEfS051004; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:40:14 GMT (envelope-from brucec) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:40:14 GMT Message-Id: <201102191440.p1JEeEfS051004@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sheepkiller@cultdeadsheep.org, brucec@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org From: brucec@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: bin/59708: sysinstall(8): [patch] add sSMTP support for Mail selection in sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:40:15 -0000 Synopsis: sysinstall(8): [patch] add sSMTP support for Mail selection in sysinstall State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: brucec State-Changed-When: Sat Feb 19 14:39:10 UTC 2011 State-Changed-Why: Sorry, we're not adding any new packages to disc1 any more so this option can't be added. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=59708 From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 19 15:10:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0722D106566B for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:10:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from adsum.doit.wisc.edu (adsum.doit.wisc.edu [144.92.197.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7B38FC19 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:10:12 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from avs-daemon.smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu by smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) id <0LGV00500E50S400@smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu> for freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:10:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from comporellon.tachypleus.net (adsl-76-208-68-88.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net [76.208.68.88]) by smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0LGV003I8E4Y3E00@smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu>; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:10:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:10:10 -0600 From: Nathan Whitehorn In-reply-to: <20110219130003.00003a64@unknown> To: Bruce Cran Message-id: <4D5FDD52.5030506@freebsd.org> X-Spam-Report: AuthenticatedSender=yes, SenderIP=76.208.68.88 X-Spam-PmxInfo: Server=avs-14, Version=5.6.0.2009776, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2011.2.19.150026, SenderIP=76.208.68.88 References: <4D433CE7.5040706@freebsd.org> <20110219130003.00003a64@unknown> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101214 Thunderbird/3.1.7 Cc: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New BSDinstall ISOs X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:10:13 -0000 On 02/19/11 07:00, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:02:15 -0600 > Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > >> Following requests from many people, it is now possible to revise >> setup for the new OS after going through the configuration steps and >> before committing and rebooting (this is *almost* a back button). >> ISOs for i386 and amd64 that implement this change, as well as >> several other improvements, can be found here: >> >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-i386-20110128.iso.bz2 >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-amd64-20110128.iso.bz2 > Using the version from 2011-02-05 I've found an issue in the > partitioner. An installation failed so I rebooted and chose Guided > again. That failed because there wasn't enough space so I went into the > editor, deleted the entire table (I chose ad0 and pressed Delete) then > Auto. After confirming that I wanted to overwrite it I got an error > "Device not configured". Despite this it seemed to have worked. Interesting -- thanks for the report! I'll take a look. -Nathan From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 19 15:22:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684041065674 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:22:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from adsum.doit.wisc.edu (adsum.doit.wisc.edu [144.92.197.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046E38FC17 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:22:29 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from avs-daemon.smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu by smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) id <0LGV00700EPHLK00@smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu> for freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:22:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from comporellon.tachypleus.net (adsl-76-208-68-88.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net [76.208.68.88]) by smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0LGV003T3EPF3E00@smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu>; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:22:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:22:27 -0600 From: Nathan Whitehorn In-reply-to: <4D5FDD52.5030506@freebsd.org> To: Bruce Cran Message-id: <4D5FE033.20208@freebsd.org> X-Spam-Report: AuthenticatedSender=yes, SenderIP=76.208.68.88 X-Spam-PmxInfo: Server=avs-12, Version=5.6.0.2009776, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2011.2.19.151530, SenderIP=76.208.68.88 References: <4D433CE7.5040706@freebsd.org> <20110219130003.00003a64@unknown> <4D5FDD52.5030506@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101214 Thunderbird/3.1.7 Cc: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New BSDinstall ISOs X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:22:30 -0000 On 02/19/11 09:10, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > On 02/19/11 07:00, Bruce Cran wrote: >> On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:02:15 -0600 >> Nathan Whitehorn wrote: >> >>> Following requests from many people, it is now possible to revise >>> setup for the new OS after going through the configuration steps and >>> before committing and rebooting (this is *almost* a back button). >>> ISOs for i386 and amd64 that implement this change, as well as >>> several other improvements, can be found here: >>> >>> http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-i386-20110128.iso.bz2 >>> http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-amd64-20110128.iso.bz2 >> Using the version from 2011-02-05 I've found an issue in the >> partitioner. An installation failed so I rebooted and chose Guided >> again. That failed because there wasn't enough space so I went into the >> editor, deleted the entire table (I chose ad0 and pressed Delete) then >> Auto. After confirming that I wanted to overwrite it I got an error >> "Device not configured". Despite this it seemed to have worked. > > Interesting -- thanks for the report! I'll take a look. This is fixed now. -Nathan