From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 28 17:30:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B90443D for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:30:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0888D8FC16 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:30:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9SHU0gs001232 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:30:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q9SHU0EY001231; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:30:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:30:00 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <201210281730.q9SHU0EY001231@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Rene Ladan Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B72432 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:29:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from red.freebsd.org (red.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3918FC08 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:29:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from red.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by red.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9SHTWom061031 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:29:32 GMT (envelope-from nobody@red.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by red.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q9SHTW5c061030; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:29:32 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <201210281729.q9SHTW5c061030@red.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:29:32 GMT From: Rene Ladan To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 Subject: docs/173155: add Makefile to Handbook Jails chapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:30:01 -0000 >Number: 173155 >Category: docs >Synopsis: add Makefile to Handbook Jails chapter >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Oct 28 17:30:00 UTC 2012 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Rene Ladan >Release: FreeBSD 10-amd64 >Organization: >Environment: doc/head revision 39827 >Description: Unlike the other chapters in the FreeBSD Handbook, the Jails chapter has no standalone Makefile. >How-To-Repeat: Noticed at http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/checkupdate/fdp.nl.diffs.txt >Fix: Add a chapter Makefile based on handbook/x11/Makefile Patch attached with submission follows: Index: en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails/Makefile =================================================================== --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails/Makefile (revision 0) +++ en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails/Makefile (working copy) @@ -0,0 +1,15 @@ +# +# Build the Handbook with just the content from this chapter. +# +# $FreeBSD$ +# + +CHAPTERS= jails/chapter.xml + +VPATH= .. + +MASTERDOC= ${.CURDIR}/../${DOC}.${DOCBOOKSUFFIX} + +DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../../.. + +.include "../Makefile" >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 28 21:54:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78CED48; 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Sun, 28 Oct 2012 22:02:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.161.163 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 22:02:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Eitan Adler Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 01:02:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Changes to FAQ 1.2 & and 1.3 To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlaFWmaDAtF4qZqiJzTyN2RmIYUSOfMKZlr6g43XLT/wN4KHSXdO+KwZLQ0LsKybnzQ9aZM Cc: docs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 05:02:57 -0000 On 27 October 2012 14:53, Warren Block wrote: > On Sat, 27 Oct 2012, Eitan Adler wrote: > >> >> - The goal of the &os; Project is to provide software that >> - may be used for any purpose and without strings attached. > > >> + The goal of the &os; Project is to provide a >> + complete, stable, and fast general purpose >> + operating system that may >> + may be used for any purpose without strings >> + attached. > > > The former is more correct, in that portions of FreeBSD software can be > used, not just the operating system as a whole. For example, the TCP/IP > networking in Windows 95, or the FreeBSD userland in Mac OS X. What about: The goal of the &os; Project is to provide a stable and fast general purpose operating system that may be used for any purpose without strings attached. Thus avoiding the word 'complete'? One note that is that my original rewrite didn't prevent us to only providing components that may be used separately but stated that the goal is to provide a complete OS. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 29 06:17:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B2E696 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 06:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george@kw-link.cn) Received: from out11.biz.mail.alibaba.com (out11.biz.mail.alibaba.com [205.204.114.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1355D8FC08 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 06:17:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 679974ba349448f(58.61.131.144) by smtp.aliyun-inc.com(127.0.0.1); Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:17:36 +0800 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:17:53 +0800 From: "George Peng" To: doc Subject: Re:Communication Cable Manufacturer. 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Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:06:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14E38FC16 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:06:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9TB63cw027614 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:06:03 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q9TB63iE027612 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:06:03 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:06:03 GMT Message-Id: <201210291106.q9TB63iE027612@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:06:04 -0000 (Note: an HTML version of this report is available at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?category=doc .) The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o docs/173013 doc FreeBSD Boot Menu Documentation o docs/172928 doc wrong syntax for dd in release anouncement o docs/172927 doc ipfw manual page doesn't show simpliest NAT case o docs/172922 doc Handbook - 25.7 Rebuilding “world” - update w/r to /sr o docs/172913 doc [ipsec] [patch] setkey(8) is unclear on anti-replay wi o docs/172868 doc [PATCH] fix header.ent change Introduction -> For newb o docs/172743 doc IPv6 handbooks lacks info about accepting router adver o docs/172692 doc [PATCH] Bring parts of the rc scripting guides up to d o docs/172662 doc [PATCH] Porter's Handbook to add information on PORT_O o docs/172626 doc [PATCH] modify the community/* pages to look more plea o docs/172370 doc [handbook] Handbook should be updated for Blu-Ray driv o docs/172369 doc mkisofs(8)/growisofs(1m) don't specify UDF version o docs/172368 doc mount_udf(8) doesn't specify which versions of UDF are o docs/172367 doc ata(4) man page needs an updated for Blu-Ray o docs/172330 doc [PATCH] Fix some errors introduced to announce.xml by o docs/172144 doc psignal(9) manpage is outdated for FreeBSD-9 systems o docs/172137 doc deprecated information for adduser(8) man pages o docs/171533 doc [patch] Replace all references of cuad with cuau in th o docs/171337 doc [PATCH] Add german filename conversion scheme for moun o docs/171292 doc [handbook] [patch] handbook should describe subversion o docs/171199 doc the GDB man page is outdated o docs/170691 doc Difference between zfs manpages and reality o docs/170223 doc IPv6 configuration section for 9.x is incorrect o docs/170119 doc at behaviour and man at inconsistency o docs/169712 doc [patch] porters-handbook zh_TW.Big5 apache section o docs/169711 doc [patch] porters-handbook zh_CN.GB2312 apache section o docs/169544 doc serial port console documentation changes o docs/169377 doc [patch] ipmon(8) man page refers to a different facili o docs/169317 doc zfs umount refers to umount(1M) but should to umount(8 o docs/169158 doc [patch] iasl(8) man page is out of date o docs/168930 doc map_mincore(9) not up-to-date o docs/168915 doc size of integers used by test(1) and sh(1) is not docu o docs/168823 doc 404s in fr_FR French web pages o docs/168814 doc [patch] remove `d` negative pointer EINVAL requirement o docs/168803 doc Remove outdated smp info o docs/167742 doc Update documentation for group 5, and newgrp 1 o docs/167741 doc group(5): Group Passwords do not work and are not docu o docs/167429 doc geli(8) needs to mention unencrypted /etc/fstab requir o docs/166553 doc find(1): find -delete documentation is misleading o docs/166358 doc No networking in Jail build via: handbook/jail-tuning o conf/166330 doc [rc] [patch] Thin server configuration revision reques o docs/165657 doc Web site Features page aging o docs/165551 doc ipfw(8): no info in "ipfw pipe show" about ipv6 o docs/165249 doc Multibyte characters in manpages still not displaying o docs/164803 doc Unclear manual page for mount_unionfs(8) o docs/164620 doc Raid 1 issues o docs/164099 doc gparm(8): man page for gparm set is incorrect and inco o docs/164034 doc acl(9) documentation lacking o docs/163879 doc [handbook] handbook does not say about how to force to o docs/163830 doc device smbios: missing documentation, no manpage o docs/163149 doc [patch] Red Hat Linux/i386 9 HTML format sudo man page o docs/162765 doc [patch] lseek(2) may return successful although no see o docs/162699 doc Handbook/Upgrading instructions: should mention delete o docs/162587 doc unclear/incomplete description of per-interface statis o docs/162419 doc [request] please document (new) zfs and zpool cmdline o docs/162404 doc [handbook] IPv6 link-local address compared with IPv4 o docs/161754 doc p4tcc(4), est(4) and qpi(4) are not documented o docs/161496 doc zfs(1): Please document that sysctl vfs.usermount must o docs/160460 doc [handbook] Network setup guide suggestion o docs/160446 doc [handbook] Handbook sound setup seems outdated o docs/160445 doc [handbook] Handbook does not mention ACL o docs/160399 doc Man page for re(4) missing jumbo frames info o docs/159307 doc [patch] lpd smm chapter unconditionally installed o docs/158388 doc Incorrect documentation of LOCAL_SCRIPT in release(7) o docs/158387 doc The tree(3) man should mention the RB_FOREACH_SAFE() A o docs/157908 doc [handbook] Description of post-install should include o docs/157698 doc [patch] gpart(8) man page contains old/incorrect size o docs/157316 doc [patch] update devstat(9) man page o docs/157049 doc FreeBSD Handbook: Chapter 14 (Security) Inaccuracy p docs/156955 doc bug in share/man/man2/setsockopt.2 o docs/156920 doc isspecial(3) is not helpful o docs/156815 doc chmod(1): manpage should describe that chmod kicks +t o docs/156689 doc stf(4) output-only documentation gives bad configurati f docs/156187 doc [handbook] [patch] Add bsnmpd to handbook o docs/156081 doc troff falls with troff.core with UTF-8 man with incorr o docs/155982 doc [handbook] reaper of the dead: remove reference to flo o docs/155773 doc dialog(1): dialog manpages not updated o docs/155149 doc [patch] don't encourage using xorg.conf outside of PRE o docs/154838 doc update cvs-tags information on releng_* to reflect sup o docs/153958 doc ksu man-page documented, but not installed a docs/153012 doc [patch] iostat(8) requires an argument to -c option o docs/151752 doc pw.conf(5) doesn't define format for file clearly o docs/150991 doc [patch] Install upgtfw using pkg_add as advised in upg o docs/150917 doc [patch] icmp.4, wrong description of icmplim and icmpl o docs/150877 doc ambiguity in newsyslog(8) man page about zfs with comp o docs/150255 doc dtrace description should mention makeoptions DEBUG=-g o docs/149574 doc [patch] update mi_switch(9) man page o docs/148987 doc [patch] {MD[245]|SHA_|SHA1_|SHA256_}{End|File|FileChun o docs/148984 doc [handbook] Mistake in section 16.15.4 of the handbook o docs/148680 doc [sysctl][patch] Document some sys/kern sysctls o docs/148071 doc Failover mode between wired and wireless interfaces o docs/147995 doc elf.5 man page has has missing reference o docs/146521 doc [handbook] Update IPv6 system handbook section to ment o docs/145719 doc [patch] 7.3 relnotes erroneously describes new getpage o docs/145699 doc hexdump(1) mutes all format qualifier output following o docs/145069 doc Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD article out dated. o docs/145066 doc Update for new uart dev names for serial port. s docs/144818 doc all mailinglist archives dated 19970101 contain traili o docs/144630 doc [patch] domainname(1) manpage contains old information o docs/144515 doc [handbook] Expand handbook Table of contents o docs/144488 doc share/examples/etc/make.conf: contains dangerous examp o docs/143850 doc procfs(5) manpage for status > controlling terminal is o docs/143472 doc gethostname(3) references undefined value: HOST_NAME_M o docs/143416 doc [handbook] IPFW handbook page issues o docs/143408 doc man filedesc(9) is missing o docs/142168 doc [patch] ld(1): ldd(1) not mentioned in ld(1) manpage o docs/141032 doc misleading documentation for rtadvd.conf(5) raflags se s docs/140847 doc [request] add documentation on ECMP and new route args o docs/140444 doc [patch] New Traditional Chinese translation of custom- o docs/140375 doc [UPDATE] Updated zh_TW.Big5/articles/nanobsd o docs/139336 doc [request] ZFS documentation suggestion o docs/139165 doc gssapi.3 man page out of sync with between crypto and o docs/139018 doc translation of submitting.sgml from docproj/submitting o docs/138845 doc Exceeding kern.ipc.maxpipekva refers to tuning(7) whic o docs/138663 doc system(3) man page confuses users about "return value o docs/138485 doc bpf(4) and ip(4) man pages missing important corner ca o docs/136712 doc [handbook] [patch] draft new section on gmirror per pa o docs/136666 doc [handbook] Configure serial port for remote kernel deb o docs/136035 doc ftpchroot(5) omits an important option o docs/135516 doc [patch] pax(1) manual not mentioning chflags unawarene o docs/134123 doc The RUNQUEUE(9) man page is out of date o docs/132839 doc [patch] Fix example script in ldap-auth article o docs/132718 doc [handbook] Information about adding a new mirror is ou o docs/132260 doc dhcpd(8) pid not stored in documented location o docs/132190 doc EPERM explanation for send(2), sendto(2), and sendmsg( o docs/131918 doc [patch] Fixes for the BPF(4) man page o docs/131626 doc [patch] dump(8) "recommended" cache option confusing o docs/130238 doc nfs.lockd man page doesn't mention NFSLOCKD option or o docs/129671 doc New TCP chapter for Developer's Handbook (from rwatson o docs/129464 doc using packages system o docs/129095 doc ipfw(8): Can not check that packet originating/destine o docs/128356 doc [request] add Firefox plugin for FreeBSD manual pages s docs/127844 doc Example code skeleton_capture_n.c in meteor(4) manpage o docs/126590 doc [patch] Write routine called forever in Sample Echo Ps o docs/126484 doc libc function res-zonscut2 is not documented f docs/122052 doc minor update on handbook section 20.7.1 o docs/121952 doc Handbook chapter on Network Address Translation wrong o docs/121585 doc [handbook] Wrong multicast specification s docs/121541 doc [request] no man pages for wlan_scan_ap o docs/121312 doc RELNOTES_LANG breaks release if not en_US.ISO8859-1 o docs/121173 doc [patch] mq_getattr(2): mq_flags mistakenly described a s docs/120917 doc [request]: Man pages mising for thr_xxx syscalls o docs/120125 doc [patch] Installing FreeBSD 7.0 via serial console and o docs/120024 doc resolver(5) and hosts(5) need updated for IPv6 o docs/119545 doc books/arch-handbook/usb/chapter.sgml formatting o docs/118214 doc close(2) error returns incomplete o docs/116588 doc No IPFW tables or dummynet in Handbook o docs/116080 doc PREFIX is documented, but not the more important LOCAL p docs/115065 doc [patch] sync ps.1 with p_flag and keywords o docs/114371 doc [patch] [ip6] rtadvd.con(5) should show how to adverti o docs/114139 doc mbuf(9) has misleading comments on M_DONTWAIT and M_TR o docs/113194 doc [patch] [request] crontab.5: handling of day-in-month o docs/111425 doc Missing chunks of text in historical manpages o docs/111265 doc [request] Clarify how to set common shell variables o docs/110999 doc carp(4) should document unsupported interface types o docs/110692 doc wi(4) man page doesn't say WPA is not supported o docs/110376 doc [patch] add some more explanations for the iwi/ipw fir o docs/110062 doc [patch] mount_nfs(8) fails to mention a failure condit p docs/110061 doc [patch] tuning(7) missing reference to vfs.read_max o docs/109981 doc No manual entry for post-grohtml o docs/109977 doc No manual entry for ksu o docs/109973 doc No manual entry for c++filt o docs/109972 doc No manual entry for zless/bzless f docs/109226 doc [request] No manual entry for sntp o docs/109201 doc [request]: manual for callbootd a docs/108980 doc list of missing man pages o docs/106135 doc [request] articles/vinum needs to be updated o docs/105608 doc fdc(4) debugging description staled o docs/104879 doc Howto: Listen to IMA ADPCM .wav files on FreeBSD box o docs/102719 doc [patch] ng_bpf(4) example leads to unneeded promiscuos o docs/101271 doc serial console documentation implies kernel rebuild re o docs/100196 doc man login.conf does explain not "unlimited" o docs/99506 doc FreeBSD Handbook addition: IPv6 Server Settings o docs/98974 doc Missing tunables in loader(8) manpage o docs/98115 doc Missing parts after rendering handbook to RTF format o docs/96207 doc Comments of a sockaddr_un structure could confuse one o docs/95408 doc install over serial console does not work as documente o docs/94625 doc [patch] growfs man page -- document "panic: not enough o docs/92626 doc jail manpage should mention disabling some periodic sc o docs/91506 doc ndis(4) man page should be more specific about support o docs/91149 doc read(2) can return EINVAL for unaligned access to bloc o docs/88512 doc [patch] mount_ext2fs(8) man page has no details on lar o docs/87936 doc Handbook chapter on NIS/YP lacks good information on a o docs/87857 doc ifconfig(8) wireless options order matters o docs/85128 doc [patch] loader.conf(5) autoboot_delay incompletly desc o docs/84956 doc [patch] intro(5) manpage doesn't mention API coverage o docs/84932 doc new document: printing with an Epson ALC-3000N on Free o docs/84670 doc [patch] tput(1) manpage missing ENVIRONMENT section wi o docs/84317 doc fdp-primer doesn't show class=USERNAME distinctively o docs/84271 doc [patch] compress(1) doesn't warn about nasty link hand o docs/83820 doc getino(3) manpage not installed o docs/81611 doc [patch] natd runs with -same_ports by default o docs/78480 doc Networked printer setup unnecessarily complex in handb o docs/61605 doc [request] Improve documentation for i386 disk geometry o docs/61301 doc [patch] Manpage patch for aue(4) to enable HomePNA fun o docs/59835 doc ipfw(8) man page does not warn about accepted but mean o docs/59477 doc Outdated Info Documents at http://docs.freebsd.org/inf o docs/57298 doc [patch] add using compact flash cards info to handbook s docs/54752 doc bus_dma explained in ISA section in Handbook: should b o docs/53751 doc bus_dma(9) incorrectly documents BUS_DMA_ALLOCNOW o docs/53596 doc Updates to mt(1) manual page o docs/53271 doc bus_dma(9) fails to document alignment restrictions o docs/51480 doc Multiple undefined references in the FreeBSD manual pa o kern/51341 doc [ipfw] [patch] ipfw rule 'deny icmp from any to any ic o docs/50211 doc [patch] doc.docbook.mk: fix textfile creation o docs/48101 doc [patch] Add documentation on the fixit disk o docs/47594 doc [patch] passwd(5) incorrectly states allowed username o docs/45303 doc Bug in PDF DocBook rendering o docs/43823 doc [patch] update to environ(7) manpage o docs/41089 doc pax(1) -B option does not mention interaction with -z o docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to GETFKEY/SETF o docs/38982 doc [patch] developers-handbook/Jail fix o docs/38556 doc EPS file of beastie, as addition to existing examples s docs/33589 doc [patch] to doc.docbook.mk to post process .tex files. o docs/27605 doc [patch] Cross-document references () o docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string warnings o docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) s docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags in the sourc 218 problems total. 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From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 30 07:30:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8764865E; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:30:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561AD8FC14; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:30:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9U7UWSf050774; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:30:32 GMT (envelope-from linimon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q9U7UWlZ050770; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:30:32 GMT (envelope-from linimon) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:30:32 GMT Message-Id: <201210300730.q9U7UWlZ050770@freefall.freebsd.org> To: linimon@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: linimon@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/173202: [patch] ACPICONF(8) does not have -k option documented. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:30:32 -0000 Old Synopsis: ACPICONF(8) does not have -k option documented. New Synopsis: [patch] ACPICONF(8) does not have -k option documented. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: linimon Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Oct 30 07:30:16 UTC 2012 Responsible-Changed-Why: reclassify. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=173202 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 31 01:46:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: docs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9B8397 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 01:46:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-la0-f54.google.com (mail-la0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDAD8FC08 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 01:46:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id e12so863638lag.13 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:46:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=8i4O9s9i/+Q83kN6q3kTIu7dGHFeDybWKTCH0zYySDc=; b=Irmy46/IunJT3edFBcy4pP7AHUSEbuyrw7qnifCSqhsXp7DP9J6E0/N0z3ckVu33Pu lPx4jimB+kLT+dUjroBlGcPncVWAZ0BY6/7NaM85qLy4bqguEfBkKLX865VmGZDnq13a kE4q9NweYFnytngAVPOTpvTv+yq5bovWWqBwI= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=8i4O9s9i/+Q83kN6q3kTIu7dGHFeDybWKTCH0zYySDc=; b=IltC2oOY1aTioEPqGX33Nf3FRICpkceKjbGgjWn3T7yWu+WLhy4aWcAoxryWdxHyBS YmFtjGbexiXqFBtmZIlHH3wXNZEsL/KJx2gLcy724gl0dQJd9Jx/kWyjLstjb1Ijxg47 FZmXz7Snw7Y/8l2m5PLM/vrVFWIY4Ec8uY0j8aZinBk4J+GICjooWLPFUPUyE5aPKdO0 JZO4n3V2taDoQ8m/glgzQ45FXM345YcXkofvcgOaZgrH22NJR4orhVsBX/+2Fd6avbtJ OAd/KAcQocsPNprDaOKEqrML1ym4808nbfa9LegElecZPK3AUkN+J0sLN66FxODL8dyu P2OQ== Received: by 10.112.17.40 with SMTP id l8mr13767000lbd.58.1351648006972; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:46:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.162.71 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:46:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Eitan Adler Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:46:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: removing the article about zip drives To: docs@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlMspRUT7fXrPLfZAPk0m4b2iZMls15B/ecurdIyH9DOFHkPmSD/nNGGwv5ZneHKRO9ZWS9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 01:46:49 -0000 I'd like to remove http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/zip-drive/index.html - it is old and crufty - some instructions are now wrong - no one uses ZIP drives anymore Does anyone object? -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 31 02:39:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A123985A for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 02:39:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-la0-f54.google.com (mail-la0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2258FC12 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 02:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id e12so889307lag.13 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:39:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=L5khxqrCOQmhVU0DyPrfoHonts5mPSw2FnLKbEOvYy4=; b=G3hoHsx5Zzvb7QYtN8Xcz5K14NF4ZOa5jFjQk24AIUVeZabzVkzVfpfvfdFvXlK+iS JzHYWnPsbZmOMTK79q4O4VM2G0aofHke5jMLFbNkGdTAqScZU82zB/BHZN4OqWSTzSvF Q9czuZXoygO6wn+WCSw8NfAZv3VCU6zjBj9MU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=L5khxqrCOQmhVU0DyPrfoHonts5mPSw2FnLKbEOvYy4=; b=ofxLjJH4w/hjgrsNs9UmRSjalYSe53GmMWm1/IrwjPtrFGDkspFApBamkzTlQG0MT3 yjM8VettSN0Ob5qixSYeVDB/qq1yoPVrHaJ+eRJghcStAtpRbGDsQc7UXAiNTdd7y51b CFh1Q/Mt30YMtqjDcH+DkBa1wglWH0J4fFlZF9O60NZHEr6KDctd8NVuiTwfO3LFhK/F L5TrWy0CE7sOr9CnppU9ytr51licAMEhdgkf9gnf/Jnn9LkRxjIoH8SAR3daFCRvRGlk 10WGNHGK3YgK9zS66dMd4RqxAHmeLS6TFZF9o1nLirHiQ+N/8qdp/kL2+/qNcltaF/Q5 2KHw== Received: by 10.152.103.38 with SMTP id ft6mr31746495lab.40.1351651160552; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:39:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.162.71 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:38:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Eitan Adler Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:38:50 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: removing the article about "how to set up CVS" To: FBSD Doc project Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm+cX5WHQjj/X91zpvh5iTJ9No+CGo8VP8EHB80KKc9/e+ynDNJhi+KnWDwCaiPyRdBrXml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 02:39:22 -0000 I'd like to remove http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/cvs-freebsd/article.html - its old - CVS will be eventually removed from base - no one should use CVS anymore anyways any objections? -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 31 03:49:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: docs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1337F4 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 03:49:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-la0-f54.google.com (mail-la0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF328FC17 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 03:49:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id e12so920740lag.13 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:49:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=c63RfZ+JAIBpka1xVO84+4E9BBu8aic/shDGhhV1rdE=; b=ffbFZggWM/za1lCBOS70Rb9y0gXfMQ8cmRMpupcgmUnllMfrk5ADneuvrCfhZDFb9r XS8djXXP6jo89C61hW1+qUuB7YDk1KkLqzvHbaoFQgHW0z1XhNhAiOfFE1SmV31lI2sn eKDFHDwOv0ywyGJSHl3WzhodWWtvbzAaSRgL0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=c63RfZ+JAIBpka1xVO84+4E9BBu8aic/shDGhhV1rdE=; b=MTmlz+e8bP3XslNKGVPuX/4QkmgX5rwECoAbT19tVxaVaoBnKbn4KRycMuMbKMu45N uDgIUT8wEflylbXYP/ed1v6W3o7yYq6QQLSIDEn1TorphoOzbfawPjl08gzzHmzTV/uj 0xaPS+o5vFjQ+l+onqXajbtOxmwrdDeUr11rGxhl8zOTOPS5PeXE0ctzTq5o+wtR07rC 0JdSHCQLNP3Eu5trQRssF8Ynvu7/wAKfuO8RJtv9+zGf8GRQyKWadgBLijhi5ofa0IFc pVUxjEpaBIIOEDcPk0ZDjQzIk+qnxNW7BI78DqeIX6MfCMZRWIupRaBbs5AFO00EQsfx sfOQ== Received: by 10.152.162.97 with SMTP id xz1mr32489031lab.38.1351655385341; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:49:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.162.71 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:49:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Eitan Adler Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 23:49:15 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: combining docs@ and www@? To: www@freebsd.org, docs@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkSU4yPNNK9YL7ElrKLjf+Z/fRmRiPPE/3FlZlULqcMtPwUuwHvrb8CIPTdK+VXp1wwqv+e X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 03:49:48 -0000 Hey all, I'd like to propose combining www@ and docs@ into one mailing list - The website and documentation are worked on by broadly the same group of people - There are already website discussion on docs@ - www@ seems to have a lower subscriber rate and less discussion even for "more on topic" posts - People might get confused about which mailing list to use - There is work on getting the two even more tied together. Unless anyone objects I think we should do the following: - migrate people on www@ but not on docs@ to docs@ - close down www@ and make it an alias to docs@ Does anyone see a compelling reason to leave both mailing lists? -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 31 06:22:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: docs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17098114 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 06:22:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (pancho.soaustin.net [76.74.250.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49A98FC0A for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 06:22:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 3E6265605D; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 01:14:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 01:14:42 -0500 From: Mark Linimon To: Eitan Adler Subject: Re: removing the article about zip drives Message-ID: <20121031061442.GB10594@lonesome.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: docs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 06:22:40 -0000 On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 09:46:16PM -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: > Does anyone object? If anyone complains, tell them I will send them my entire collection of zip-drive hardware: drives too. That threat should shut them up. mcl From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 31 07:03:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9769D6; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 07:03:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A48F8FC0C; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 07:03:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3DC14E750E; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 08:03:18 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id lnL2COF4UHAd; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 08:03:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.106] (5403A6BE.catv.pool.telekom.hu [84.3.166.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8273914E750B; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 08:03:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5090CD31.8010201@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 08:03:13 +0100 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eitan Adler Subject: Re: combining docs@ and www@? References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FBSD Doc project , www@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 07:03:20 -0000 Em 31-10-2012 04:49, Eitan Adler escreveu: > Hey all, > > I'd like to propose combining www@ and docs@ into one mailing list Off: it's actually doc@ not docs@, which apparently seems to work. On: I support the idea. Probably it was thought earlier that a www@ list in itself was useful but in practice, it isn't that useful in itself. I also have one mail folder for the two and I use procmail to collect both of them there. Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 31 07:35:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E91F9B; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 07:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (gatekeeper.allbsd.org [IPv6:2001:2f0:104:e001::32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75C28FC0C; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 07:35:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alph.allbsd.org (p1137-ipbf1505funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [118.7.212.137]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.allbsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9V7Ykul004002 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:35:00 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by alph.allbsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9V7YgGr014922; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:34:44 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:34:34 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20121031.163434.1588854285324282842.hrs@allbsd.org> To: gabor@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: combining docs@ and www@? From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <5090CD31.8010201@FreeBSD.org> References: <5090CD31.8010201@FreeBSD.org> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 6.5 on Emacs 23.4 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Wed_Oct_31_16_34_34_2012_641)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (mail.allbsd.org [133.31.130.32]); Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:35:02 +0900 (JST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-98.1 required=13.0 tests=CONTENT_TYPE_PRESENT, ONLY1HOPDIRECT,SAMEHELOBY2HOP,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on gatekeeper.allbsd.org Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, www@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 07:35:22 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Wed_Oct_31_16_34_34_2012_641)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gabor Kovesdan wrote in <5090CD31.8010201@FreeBSD.org>: ga> Em 31-10-2012 04:49, Eitan Adler escreveu: ga> > Hey all, ga> > ga> > I'd like to propose combining www@ and docs@ into one mailing list ga> ga> Off: it's actually doc@ not docs@, which apparently seems to work. ga> ga> On: I support the idea. Probably it was thought earlier that a www@ list ga> in itself was useful but in practice, it isn't that useful in itself. I ga> also have one mail folder for the two and I use procmail to collect both ga> of them there. I agree with merging the two into one. There was a similar opinion at BSDCan, too. -- Hiroki ----Security_Multipart(Wed_Oct_31_16_34_34_2012_641)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAlCQ1IoACgkQTyzT2CeTzy1vhwCgtshWmc/Zv7esF41i/FAyroZf az8AoIJ+GMqaNQ0WiyfYAEtWiw8Xht6d =GV7X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Wed_Oct_31_16_34_34_2012_641)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 31 07:37:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BCABDA for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 07:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 3NNWQUA0JC6sXLcVPe.hPMZYWRXLTW.NZXQcPPMdO-OZN0cPPwDy.ZcR@maestro.bounces.google.com) Received: from mail-oa0-f72.google.com (mail-oa0-f72.google.com [209.85.219.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C02B8FC08 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 07:37:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by 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[212.247.52.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.vnode.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DBA1AE3F079; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 09:39:00 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 09:38:58 +0100 From: Joel Dahl To: Hiroki Sato Subject: Re: combining docs@ and www@? Message-ID: <20121031083858.GF1092@jd.benders.se> References: <5090CD31.8010201@FreeBSD.org> <20121031.163434.1588854285324282842.hrs@allbsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121031.163434.1588854285324282842.hrs@allbsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, gabor@FreeBSD.org, www@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 08:39:14 -0000 On 31-10-2012 16:34, Hiroki Sato wrote: > Gabor Kovesdan wrote > in <5090CD31.8010201@FreeBSD.org>: > > ga> Em 31-10-2012 04:49, Eitan Adler escreveu: > ga> > Hey all, > ga> > > ga> > I'd like to propose combining www@ and docs@ into one mailing list > ga> > ga> Off: it's actually doc@ not docs@, which apparently seems to work. > ga> > ga> On: I support the idea. Probably it was thought earlier that a www@ list > ga> in itself was useful but in practice, it isn't that useful in itself. I > ga> also have one mail folder for the two and I use procmail to collect both > ga> of them there. > > I agree with merging the two into one. There was a similar opinion > at BSDCan, too. I also support this idea. -- Joel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 31 12:39:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909B111B for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:39:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267E58FC19 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:39:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q9VCQexj026349 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:26:41 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <50911902.2050302@fjl.co.uk> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:26:42 +0000 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: removing the article about zip drives References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:39:19 -0000 On 31/10/2012 01:46, Eitan Adler wrote: > I'd like to remove > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/zip-drive/index.html > > - it is old True - doesn't mention USB version, and comments in the introduction are dated (100Mb isn't exactly high capacity any longer). > and crufty > - some instructions are now wrong Pity > - no one uses ZIP drives anymore Not so! Not often, but there is data on Zip cartridges out there, the same as there is on floppy disks. I come across them about once a year, but I'm nerdy like that. Whilst the article in question could benefit from an update, its the best there is. I wonder if 64-bit Windows is capable of working with some Zip drives any longer. This is another good reason to use FreeBSD. I have a collection of pretty much every Zip drive ever made (and some still work!); I could try out the instructions and see what still works. Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 31 12:58:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C0B91E; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eadler@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0429D8FC0C; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9VCwjB3025358; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:58:45 GMT (envelope-from eadler@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from eadler@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q9VCwjoR025354; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:58:45 GMT (envelope-from eadler) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:58:45 GMT Message-Id: <201210311258.q9VCwjoR025354@freefall.freebsd.org> To: eadler@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, eadler@FreeBSD.org From: eadler@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/172692: [PATCH] Bring parts of the rc scripting guides up to date X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:58:46 -0000 Synopsis: [PATCH] Bring parts of the rc scripting guides up to date Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->eadler Responsible-Changed-By: eadler Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Oct 31 12:58:45 UTC 2012 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take it. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=172692 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 31 13:35:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D3C5CD for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:35:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5FA8FC1C for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:35:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f54.google.com with SMTP id jf20so707045bkc.13 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 06:35:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=TAmLZJsm6uXRbfzgCI8zPhkfY76oOPCnY+jG6PynFBg=; b=YXFd/nKLALDu/rS3/I2toBsW95K2+VKHubY94nnimfsmy8UvLo9ESq88O8OjOUvrIu BazRXy5qbObFQ/1fJaR2nNrgIn/X2QB4rFDMdwc7nuZlgNR+SswM/0ZnFx17MRZBVeWp ZayogP5u2rVYaTfEcry6Zd3++yBExpQVQvdnW2/l3fVoodX14Ts4QUUPEfsUYQSB/Cqh bTWuNeA008buY7s+Mg8BwDfazi/8YmK81iN3h03yv7lH/F/l250n2qSZrIOq25NVHwfz dPfxN3+l/yBUbUbfO33vjhXv8zX1PlOnfXNexKhD+unT/Ukgw75as+86+ociGYNMveK1 WghA== Received: by 10.205.137.7 with SMTP id im7mr11036601bkc.25.1351690557813; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 06:35:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.50.197 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 06:35:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <50911902.2050302@fjl.co.uk> References: <50911902.2050302@fjl.co.uk> From: Chris Rees Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:35:27 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ZVT7TcEDNz03TA-gnAuecdWfh3M Message-ID: Subject: Re: removing the article about zip drives To: Frank Leonhardt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:35:59 -0000 On 31 October 2012 12:26, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > On 31/10/2012 01:46, Eitan Adler wrote: >> >> I'd like to remove >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/zip-drive/index.html >> >> - it is old > > > True - doesn't mention USB version, and comments in the introduction are > dated (100Mb isn't exactly high capacity any longer). > > >> and crufty >> - some instructions are now wrong > > > Pity > > >> - no one uses ZIP drives anymore > > > Not so! Not often, but there is data on Zip cartridges out there, the same > as there is on floppy disks. I come across them about once a year, but I'm > nerdy like that. > > Whilst the article in question could benefit from an update, its the best > there is. I wonder if 64-bit Windows is capable of working with some Zip > drives any longer. This is another good reason to use FreeBSD. > > I have a collection of pretty much every Zip drive ever made (and some still > work!); I could try out the instructions and see what still works. > You may have a point, but it's unfortunate for your argument that you chose to compare Zip drives with floppies-- we have also removed the floppy installation instructions.... Chris From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 31 14:18:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26DD55A; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:18:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4048FC15; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:18:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q9VEICtt043390 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:18:13 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <50913327.2030004@fjl.co.uk> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:18:15 +0000 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Rees Subject: Re: removing the article about zip drives References: <50911902.2050302@fjl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:18:16 -0000 On 31/10/2012 13:35, Chris Rees wrote: >>> - no one uses ZIP drives anymore >> >> Not so! Not often, but there is data on Zip cartridges out there, the same >> as there is on floppy disks. I come across them about once a year, but I'm >> nerdy like that. >> >> Whilst the article in question could benefit from an update, its the best >> there is. I wonder if 64-bit Windows is capable of working with some Zip >> drives any longer. This is another good reason to use FreeBSD. >> >> I have a collection of pretty much every Zip drive ever made (and some still >> work!); I could try out the instructions and see what still works. >> > You may have a point, but it's unfortunate for your argument that you > chose to compare Zip drives with floppies-- we have also removed the > floppy installation instructions.... > > Chris There are parallels (no pun intended) but software support and documentation remains for reading and writing (some) floppy disks. At least I assume it does. Anyone who knows about floppies is likely to go to the man pages, but there are none for Zip AFAIK. Whilst it's true to say than no casual user is likely to try installing from a floppy disk, and probably won't be writing to a floppy disk, they might well want to recover something from one (remember, Verbatum gave a lifetime guarantee!) The problem, as I see it, is that if you remove the documentation, the ability to read Zip disks goes with it. Incidentally, I have a Zip-250 USB which I use for reading all disks now. I haven't tested it on FreeBSD. I think there's a better-than-even chance of it working. The vpo driver is a bit esoteric. Hmm. I wonder if I can make it work with the Iomega Ditto or TR3. I completely agree that the article needs attention - possibly left as a guide to recovering data from Zip cartridges. But I'd like it to remain in some form, even if its a minority interest. Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 31 14:37:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2BD76F for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:37:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC908FC0A for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:37:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f182.google.com with SMTP id b5so1405520lbd.13 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 07:37:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=sVNee4XGZYTK5Rx/zv5ot+uH4c6Fw6AmncL4P/377gk=; b=dsL1WrLVg8toEG6ujPvb02Ly8AcK2l2OI0ztUYohzK1edZ3oYZCtq6U502q1BBDhGK 0rX5l9Ra0VDeuLA2Q8MRzuWPQnKnGUxQfEFx0lsBBqWSjbDgfvAMoCQM435Cf841ppxy IXGAz1ecgHT3j2ijoqBk6pZAFfmSLNf/mDmSU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=sVNee4XGZYTK5Rx/zv5ot+uH4c6Fw6AmncL4P/377gk=; b=f8Gk8Bf9+ZaBObQtXMnQ4+l0mwJqWEYIQsfOqzExI8q0ZfpsrOFuWSmZTSZF+UfpIK Rrob3RwJuQiPcZt5pOuY7m6/9yIquM3MMswkC0GF3TCYGTx5/al7HTrE83V1apxwuY3o 9ErYGUaBmbJci1B9PVCm6oCc60FqlLBEmRV1eZdzcCdQrnMd1RJYkOTB3+bP+SVGO0KP boyQ1GEXL0IYVvVduoLVtRn95U43yFLk3KDv9rypcKTE/Eq4J43YlwbGy7/gurOApVNO 8HfYhty5ubGlTvYjOt+7DtTIsLSsQF/8dkcbyFhipvrWvms58n2yAtVe/T00ZcfEeVt0 NiFw== Received: by 10.112.48.74 with SMTP id j10mr14827847lbn.94.1351694245156; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 07:37:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.162.71 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 07:36:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <50913327.2030004@fjl.co.uk> References: <50911902.2050302@fjl.co.uk> <50913327.2030004@fjl.co.uk> From: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:36:54 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: removing the article about zip drives To: Frank Leonhardt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlhugEA8guU6m9OQ0JVzmK9MR0wpt4j8R2WBx4icRRq7LHygHhMxW0fRFuZJBSuFTrniyPG Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:37:27 -0000 On 31 October 2012 10:18, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > I completely agree that the article needs attention - possibly left as a > guide to recovering data from Zip cartridges. But I'd like it to remain in > some form, even if its a minority interest. I am happy to leave the article in this form, but please keep in mind that I have no way of updating the document or testing its content. Writing/updating docbook articles isn't hard. Any chance you could help out with this and provide a diff to the article? I'd be happy to work with you you on getting the syntax / formatting correct. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 31 15:42:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D74979E; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:42:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC80F8FC12; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:41:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q9VFfuMS056191 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:41:56 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <509146C6.9030907@fjl.co.uk> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:41:58 +0000 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eitan Adler Subject: Re: removing the article about zip drives References: <50911902.2050302@fjl.co.uk> <50913327.2030004@fjl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:42:00 -0000 On 31/10/2012 14:36, Eitan Adler wrote: > On 31 October 2012 10:18, Frank Leonhardt wrote: >> I completely agree that the article needs attention - possibly left as a >> guide to recovering data from Zip cartridges. But I'd like it to remain in >> some form, even if its a minority interest. > I am happy to leave the article in this form, but please keep in mind > that I have no way of updating the document or testing its content. > Writing/updating docbook articles isn't hard. Any chance you could > help out with this and provide a diff to the article? I'd be happy > to work with you you on getting the syntax / formatting correct. > > By all means. I've already started locating some of my old zip hardware. (I know I have it by virtue of the fact I've never thrown it away). I'd probably have done a lot more with the documentation if I knew how it worked technically; I have it in mind as a project for dark winter evenings. Continue this off-list? Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 31 17:36:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6C8B5C; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:36:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkois@FreeBSD.org) Received: from tux15.hoststar.at (tux15.hoststar.at [213.239.217.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919458FC0C; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:36:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freebsd.bsdkisten.at (chello084115173108.graz.surfer.at [84.115.173.108]) (authenticated bits=0) by tux15.hoststar.at (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q9VHa509016260; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:36:07 +0100 Message-ID: <5091617D.4050607@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:35:57 +0100 From: Johann Kois User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: combining docs@ and www@? References: <5090CD31.8010201@FreeBSD.org> <20121031.163434.1588854285324282842.hrs@allbsd.org> <20121031083858.GF1092@jd.benders.se> In-Reply-To: <20121031083858.GF1092@jd.benders.se> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, www@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:36:09 -0000 On 10/31/2012 09:38, Joel Dahl wrote: > On 31-10-2012 16:34, Hiroki Sato wrote: >> Gabor Kovesdan wrote in >> <5090CD31.8010201@FreeBSD.org>: >> >> ga> Em 31-10-2012 04:49, Eitan Adler escreveu: ga> > Hey all, ga> >> > ga> > I'd like to propose combining www@ and docs@ into one >> mailing list ga> ga> Off: it's actually doc@ not docs@, which >> apparently seems to work. ga> ga> On: I support the idea. >> Probably it was thought earlier that a www@ list ga> in itself >> was useful but in practice, it isn't that useful in itself. I ga> >> also have one mail folder for the two and I use procmail to >> collect both ga> of them there. >> >> I agree with merging the two into one. There was a similar >> opinion at BSDCan, too. > > I also support this idea. +1 jkois -- Johann Kois jkois(at)FreeBSD.org FreeBSD Documentation Project FreeBSD German Documentation Project - https://doc.bsdgroup.de From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 31 17:53:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229C2F17; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:53:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onyx.glenbarber.us (onyx.glenbarber.us [IPv6:2607:fc50:1000:c200::face]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B838FC0C; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:53:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from glenbarber.us (75-146-225-65-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [75.146.225.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gjb) by onyx.glenbarber.us (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 37E0A23F645; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:53:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:53:24 -0400 From: Glen Barber To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: combining docs@ and www@? Message-ID: <20121031175324.GF1542@glenbarber.us> References: <5090CD31.8010201@FreeBSD.org> <20121031.163434.1588854285324282842.hrs@allbsd.org> <20121031083858.GF1092@jd.benders.se> <5091617D.4050607@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="eMnpOGXCMazMAbfp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5091617D.4050607@FreeBSD.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: www@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:53:27 -0000 --eMnpOGXCMazMAbfp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 06:35:57PM +0100, Johann Kois wrote: > On 10/31/2012 09:38, Joel Dahl wrote: > > On 31-10-2012 16:34, Hiroki Sato wrote: > >> Gabor Kovesdan wrote in > >> <5090CD31.8010201@FreeBSD.org>: > >>=20 > >> ga> Em 31-10-2012 04:49, Eitan Adler escreveu: ga> > Hey all, ga> > >> > ga> > I'd like to propose combining www@ and docs@ into one > >> mailing list ga> ga> Off: it's actually doc@ not docs@, which > >> apparently seems to work. ga> ga> On: I support the idea. > >> Probably it was thought earlier that a www@ list ga> in itself > >> was useful but in practice, it isn't that useful in itself. I ga> > >> also have one mail folder for the two and I use procmail to > >> collect both ga> of them there. > >>=20 > >> I agree with merging the two into one. There was a similar > >> opinion at BSDCan, too. > >=20 > > I also support this idea. >=20 > +1 >=20 +1 While here, can we also get rid of the commonly-misused GNATS 'www' category? 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Para desuscribirse haga click en el siguiente link: http://www.emailpro.net= =2Ear/u.php?p=3D43d/rs/805/1et/3sw/rs From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 31 19:55:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E480B442 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:55:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0788FC0A for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:55:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E399114E750E; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:55:25 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id On8B0yjp3Uhq; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:55:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.106] (5403A6BE.catv.pool.telekom.hu [84.3.166.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7EFD114E750B; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:55:25 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <50918231.8050203@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:55:29 +0100 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Leonhardt Subject: Re: removing the article about zip drives References: <50911902.2050302@fjl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <50911902.2050302@fjl.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:55:35 -0000 Em 31-10-2012 13:26, Frank Leonhardt escreveu: > I have a collection of pretty much every Zip drive ever made (and some > still work!); I could try out the instructions and see what still works. You will be able to check the last version of this article in the archives. We archive them for each FreeBSD version and it is available online. Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 31 23:40:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24190598 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 23:40:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD9E8FC0A for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 23:40:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f182.google.com with SMTP id b5so1864051lbd.13 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:40:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=6YKPIkiY08UMykBc/rhLw8LOyqhbcyBqviYn2NcThFA=; b=VUquy67qIzvAWIBoycl7pKB7bBTXiYIFVru4Yg2Ygd/mb2ZQzrddYwPzXFB1gnbJ/r 8WAq7uOLEF/QaAwjQKs1QiBAN4CdWDCGqKfUWomN6g7itrW201MibYR1Yvj6195gZudL eL+P2phHxzlD1ho4JjXNB+Ycb1Ry2rqWLFXL8= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=6YKPIkiY08UMykBc/rhLw8LOyqhbcyBqviYn2NcThFA=; b=Nh0fW4Lozqdc5e63efke0w6hBvACd1Nnc9XUrX4p2N8nl+RBrxPegA2RnbVyxfDloh ExDHFYLv4IfTExRrxaYYSRjZPZ83hgOn6/UZqBV9hDLmSZZU8aTkoy+cJYXQfucnqHK7 zjocl8UbsDFLw19gVwTgEYSUJd5GsLq7iPWMVlC7wlMXw8uXjpCsqHqmCExGHBF+lpKs zlWmhXC9lIFEJgF0d/8/VYGWi+Y19z2jWMSUAjTenASbWh+Ry3pybo8n4j3mu7ZwyHKz 5QwEq34MiF3nKTaTsz7Ro4ydO5Zfz+wD2+6qH7BiKcBM5VHNqdvJpVrYWrQlI2+gm4jw Eb0w== Received: by 10.152.103.38 with SMTP id ft6mr34631414lab.40.1351726804075; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:40:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.162.71 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:39:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <509146C6.9030907@fjl.co.uk> References: <50911902.2050302@fjl.co.uk> <50913327.2030004@fjl.co.uk> <509146C6.9030907@fjl.co.uk> From: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:39:33 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: removing the article about zip drives To: Frank Leonhardt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmDic6fMnZNBGelMhPQ/2/VGoH+sgMqDOLX7K6xGjjjvgXOduCmULvHFhg5o+7mPp9vzME5 Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 23:40:06 -0000 On 31 October 2012 11:41, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > By all means. I've already started locating some of my old zip hardware. (I > know I have it by virtue of the fact I've never thrown it away). > > I'd probably have done a lot more with the documentation if I knew how it > worked technically; I have it in mind as a project for dark winter evenings. > Continue this off-list? its pretty easy: install textproc/docproj-nojadetex svn checkout svn://svn.freebsd.org/doc/head find the file you want to modify (en_US.ISO8859-1/article/zip-drive/article.xml) edit it use "svn diff" and mail the diff to doc@freebsd.org. get review & repeat when its all done file a PR with the diff as an attachment :) -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 1 04:21:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B989A644 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 04:21:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaduk@mit.edu) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-4.mit.edu (DMZ-MAILSEC-SCANNER-4.MIT.EDU [18.9.25.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FEF58FC08 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 04:21:52 +0000 (UTC) X-AuditID: 1209190f-b7f636d00000095b-e4-5091f8d962a4 Received: from mailhub-auth-1.mit.edu ( [18.9.21.35]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-4.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 8B.9A.02395.9D8F1905; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 00:21:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by mailhub-auth-1.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id qA14Ljdh007147; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 00:21:45 -0400 Received: from multics.mit.edu (SYSTEM-LOW-SIPB.MIT.EDU [18.187.2.37]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id qA14Lhl6014409 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 1 Nov 2012 00:21:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kaduk@localhost) by multics.mit.edu (8.12.9.20060308) id qA14LgM1026149; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 00:21:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 00:21:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Benjamin Kaduk To: Eitan Adler Subject: Re: removing the article about "how to set up CVS" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (GSO 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrBIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixCmqrHvzx8QAg2lPDSymftzJarHoRDuT A5PHtM0H2TxmfJrPEsAUxWWTkpqTWZZapG+XwJWxc65+wQ/2it8HHBsYV7N1MXJwSAiYSNw+ otLFyAlkiklcuLeeDcQWEtjHKHHlcVkXIxeQvZ5R4te7q+wQznEmiWeHlrJAVNVLzLi7jBXE ZhHQkli2tg8sziagIjHzzUawSSICahLvXnczgtjMQHbTn0vsILawgLXE5r6lTCA2p0CgxKaN /1lBDuIVcJDYMcsIYnyAxKQJ28DGiAroSKzePwVsPK+AoMTJmU9YIEZaSpz7c51tAqPgLCSp WUhSCxiZVjHKpuRW6eYmZuYUpybrFicn5uWlFuma6OVmluilppRuYgQHqCT/DsZvB5UOMQpw MCrx8BqUTgwQYk0sK67MPcQoycGkJMpr/RUoxJeUn1KZkVicEV9UmpNafIhRgoNZSYT3cTdQ jjclsbIqtSgfJiXNwaIkzns15aa/kEB6YklqdmpqQWoRTFaGg0NJgvfwd6BGwaLU9NSKtMyc EoQ0EwcnyHAeoOFfQGp4iwsSc4sz0yHypxgVpcR5V4EkBEASGaV5cL2wBPKKURzoFWFeT5Aq HmDyget+BTSYCWiwigXY4JJEhJRUA6P3pU19nFwqIuv+P56qqmMT+KD1wx3VuxNnie50Kzjk FWD08w1DzmvXPYdqFz8IPW33Q+2a18WuRfG1T/lfcQvHMPfsYywLdU46en76njPuMdZy2xKZ WpI51kbfFjv4P9Ew80zBTbZg9/opTd+n8vN2PLl6+GYL77QnvM8Ms2OdRcPmuSeZBSuxFGck GmoxFxUnAgBNZ/aL+wIAAA== Cc: FBSD Doc project X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 04:21:53 -0000 On Tue, 30 Oct 2012, Eitan Adler wrote: > I'd like to remove > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/cvs-freebsd/article.html > > - its old > - CVS will be eventually removed from base > - no one should use CVS anymore anyways I'm not convinced any of those are valid reasons to remove it. > > any objections? Removing it because it is basically promoting the FreeBSD-specific CVS hooks and scripts that we do not use any more (other than projects) as the authoritative setup, would seem more reasonable. I think that in some of your other "kill (references to) CVS" campaigns you have devalued cvs-projects too much, but here I feel less strongly. That is because my understanding is that we are recommending svn (whether user or project areas) for *new* projects, and not actively trying to kill cvs projects. People who are using cvs-projects and want something like it locally ought to have a hat pointy enough to not need this document to do it. -Ben Kaduk From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 1 05:20:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED08451 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8AB78FC17 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qA15K0uq014034 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:20:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id qA15K0JJ014033; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:20:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:20:00 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <201211010520.qA15K0JJ014033@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Yuri Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16D32FB4 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:17:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from red.freebsd.org (red.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A028FC15 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:17:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from red.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by red.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qA15H1el021599 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:17:01 GMT (envelope-from nobody@red.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by red.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id qA15H1dc021598; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:17:01 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <201211010517.qA15H1dc021598@red.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:17:01 GMT From: Yuri To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 Subject: docs/173255: [patch] Handbook section 23.3.3 correction X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 05:20:01 -0000 >Number: 173255 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] Handbook section 23.3.3 correction >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Nov 01 05:20:00 UTC 2012 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Yuri >Release: 9.1 >Organization: n/a >Environment: >Description: Please check in the correction to the Section 23.3.3 VirtualBox Host DVD/CD Access. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Patch attached with submission follows: Index: handbook/virtualization/chapter.xml =================================================================== --- handbook/virtualization/chapter.xml (revision 39888) +++ handbook/virtualization/chapter.xml (working copy) @@ -1254,19 +1254,20 @@ &virtualbox; Host DVD/CD Access - The atapicam kernel module needs to be - loaded by adding the following line to - /boot/loader.conf: + Access to the host DVD/CD drives from guests is achieved through the sharing + of the physical drives. In GUI this is set up from the Storage window in the Settings + of the virtual machine. Create an empty IDE CD/DVD device first. Then choose + the Host Drive from the popup menu for the virtual CD/DVD drive selection. + "Passthrough" check box will appear, which is an option to share the physical drive + as a whole, vs. to share the current data media only. For example, audio CDs or the + burner function won't be accessible by guests without choosing the passthrough + option. - atapicam_load="YES" - HAL needs to run for &virtualbox; DVD/CD functions to work, so enable it in /etc/rc.conf and start it (if it is not already running): - hald_enable="YES" - &prompt.root; /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald start In order for users to be able to use @@ -1276,12 +1277,15 @@ class="devicefile">/dev/cdN, and /dev/passN. - Add the following lines to + This is usually achieved by making the user of &virtualbox; + the member of the operator group, which is also the default group of the above mentioned devices. + Permissions of these devices have to be corrected by adding the following lines to /etc/devfs.conf: - perm cd0 0600 + perm cd* 0600 perm xpt0 0660 -perm pass0 0660 +perm pass* 0660 + &prompt.root; /etc/rc.d/devfs restart