From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 3 04:59:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160FF33A; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 04:59:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D162F8FC14; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 04:59:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qB34xcwN002423; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 04:59:38 GMT (envelope-from linimon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id qB34xcQo002419; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 04:59:38 GMT (envelope-from linimon) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 04:59:38 GMT Message-Id: <201212030459.qB34xcQo002419@freefall.freebsd.org> To: linimon@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-i386@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org From: linimon@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: kern/171937: [pcm] Notebook Toshiba Satellite C850-B1K and problem with sound X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 04:59:39 -0000 Synopsis: [pcm] Notebook Toshiba Satellite C850-B1K and problem with sound Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-i386->freebsd-multimedia Responsible-Changed-By: linimon Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Dec 3 04:59:06 UTC 2012 Responsible-Changed-Why: actually I now think this is a better classification. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=171937 From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 3 11:06:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188F7D4 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 11:06:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5FD78FC1C for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 11:06:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qB3B6lDp027619 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 11:06:47 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id qB3B6lcv027617 for freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 11:06:47 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 11:06:47 GMT Message-Id: <201212031106.qB3B6lcv027617@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 11:06:48 -0000 Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o ports/173895 multimedia [PATCH] unbreak multimedia/linux-realplayer o ports/173891 multimedia Living MASTER_SITES for multimedia/linux-realplayer o ports/173741 multimedia multimedia/dirac fails to compile with clang o ports/172185 multimedia multimedia/vlc build fail with gmake core dump at modu o ports/172128 multimedia building multimedia/vlc fails o ports/171958 multimedia audio/fluidsynth: Update to version 1.1.6 o kern/171937 multimedia [pcm] Notebook Toshiba Satellite C850-B1K and problem o ports/171888 multimedia [PATCH] multimedia/gpac-libgpac: update to 0.5.0,1 o ports/171248 multimedia multimedia/win32-codecs: Fix pkg-plist o kern/171191 multimedia [snd_cmi] [request] add driver support for cmi8787/878 o ports/170517 multimedia [patch] Correct audio/jack Dependency Declaration o ports/170134 multimedia audio/denemo: Update to version 0.9.4 o ports/169563 multimedia [patch] audio/jack-rack o ports/165090 multimedia audio/faad missing head files o kern/162181 multimedia [snd_emu10k1] [patch] The kernel sound driver module s o ports/161783 multimedia [PATCH] multimedia/gpac-libgpac: Fix build with gcc46 o ports/161568 multimedia [PATCH] audio/libsamplerate: samplerate.h has comma at o ports/161546 multimedia [PATCH] multimedia/mkvtoolnix: make some dependencies o kern/159236 multimedia [pcm] [patch] set PCM_CAP_DEFAULT for the default snd o kern/158979 multimedia [snd_uadio] snd_uaudio fails to initialize built-in mi o kern/158542 multimedia [snd_hda] hdac0: hdac_get_capabilities: Invalid corb s o stand/157050 multimedia OSS implementation lacks AFMT_FLOAT o kern/156198 multimedia [snd_hda] [hang] loading snd_hda kernel module hangs s o kern/156165 multimedia [hdac] Missing card definition for hdac audio device, o ports/153846 multimedia graphics/libcaca 0.99.beta17 - Hidden dependency on Xl a ports/153735 multimedia multimedia/vlc: install error: `Permission denied' for o kern/152622 multimedia [pcm] uaudio recording problem o kern/152500 multimedia [hdac] play interrupt timeout, channel dead o kern/152378 multimedia [sound][patch] Update snd_envy24ht to be MPSAFE and us f ports/150502 multimedia multimedia/gpac-libgpac 0.4.5_4,1 fails to compile on o kern/150284 multimedia [snd_hda] No gain with Audio o kern/149943 multimedia [pcm]: CS4236 audio problem o kern/147504 multimedia [oss] [panic] panic: dev_pager_getpage: map function r o kern/146031 multimedia [snd_hda] race condition when kldunload snd_hda sound o kern/144659 multimedia [pcm] The distortion of the sound playback of music at o kern/143505 multimedia [pcm] FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE (x64) won't make sound card o kern/141826 multimedia [snd_hda] load of snd_hda module fails o kern/140591 multimedia [PATCH][sound] No sound output on lineout/headphone ja o kern/137589 multimedia [snd_uaudio] snd_uaudio.ko (USB audio driver) doesn't o kern/134767 multimedia [sound] [snd_hda] [regression] Sigmatel STAC9205X no s o kern/132848 multimedia [sound] [snd_emu10kx] driver problem with card init, s o kern/132511 multimedia [sound] [snd_hda] Probing ALC888 codec on ASRock K10N7 o kern/129604 multimedia [sound] Sound stops with error: pcm0:virtual:dsp0.vp0: o kern/127131 multimedia [bktr] /usr/src/sys/dev/bktr/bktr_os.c, line 469: wron s kern/125756 multimedia [sound] [patch] cannot detect soft-modem on HDA bus o kern/124319 multimedia [sound] [snd_emu10k1] [regression] Cannot record from o kern/122086 multimedia [sound] maestro sound driver is working, but mixer ini p kern/121156 multimedia [sound] [patch] Turn on inverted external amplifier se o kern/120857 multimedia [sound] [snd_emu10k1] snd_emu10k1 driver issues a warn o kern/120780 multimedia [sound] [snd_hda] snd_hda doesn't work on Dell Latitut o kern/119973 multimedia [sound] [snd_maestro] [regression] snd_maestro only wo o kern/119931 multimedia [sound] No sound card detected on ASUS "K8V-X SE R2.00 o kern/119759 multimedia [sound] [snd_emu10k1] [regression] Can not record anyt o kern/115300 multimedia [sound] [snd_hda] [regression] snd_hda(4) fails to att o kern/114760 multimedia [sound] [snd_cmi] snd_cmi driver causing sporadic syst o kern/111767 multimedia [sound] ATI SB450 High Definition Audio Controller sou o kern/107516 multimedia [sound] [snd_emu10k1] - skips, clicks and lag after a o kern/107051 multimedia [sound] only 2 channels output works for the ALC850 (o o kern/104874 multimedia [sound] [snd_emu10k1] kldload snd_emu10k1 hangs system o kern/101417 multimedia [sound] 4-speakers output not possible on Asus A8V-Del o kern/100859 multimedia [sound] [snd_ich] snd_ich broken on GIGABYTE 915 syste o kern/98752 multimedia [sound] Intel ich6 82801 FB - on Packard Bell A8810 la o kern/98504 multimedia [sound] Sound is distorted with SB Live 5.1 o kern/98496 multimedia [sound] [snd_ich] some functions don't work in my soun o kern/97609 multimedia [sound] Load Sound Module - VIA8233 - fails o kern/97535 multimedia [sound] [snd_mss] doesn't work in 6.0-RELEASE and abov o kern/96538 multimedia [sound] emu10k1-driver inverts channels o kern/95086 multimedia [sound] uaudio line in problem with sbdm lx o kern/94279 multimedia [sound] [snd_neomagic] snd_neomagic crashes on FreeBSD o kern/93986 multimedia [sound] Acer TravelMate 4652LMi pcm0 channel dead o kern/92512 multimedia [sound] distorted mono output with emu10k1 o kern/87782 multimedia [sound] snd_t4dwave and pcm0:record:0: record interrup o kern/82043 multimedia [sound] snd_emu10k1 - mixer does not work. o kern/81146 multimedia [sound] Sound isn't working AT ALL for Sis7012 onboard o kern/80632 multimedia [sound] pcm driver missing support for CMI8738 auxilla o kern/79912 multimedia [sound] sound broken for 2 VIA chipsets: interrupt sto o kern/79905 multimedia [sound] sis7018 sound module problem o kern/79678 multimedia [sound] sound works except recording from any source o conf/75137 multimedia [sound] add snd_* modules support to /etc/rc.d/mixer f kern/72995 multimedia [sound] Intel ICH2 (82801BA) - sound nearly inaudible o kern/63204 multimedia [sound] /dev/mixer broken with ESS Maestro-2E (still o o kern/60677 multimedia [sound] [patch] No reaction of volume controy key on I s kern/60599 multimedia [bktr] [partial patch] No sound for ATI TV Wonder (ste o kern/37600 multimedia [sound] [partial patch] t4dwave drive doesn't record. o kern/23546 multimedia [sound] [snd_csa] [patch] csa DMA-interrupt problem 85 problems total. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 3 15:10:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77EA6E8C; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 15:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcelbonnet@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC1A8FC14; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 15:10:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id s9so5253344iec.13 for ; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 07:10:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=A+LsJqraDvfFxsYX66g7L1IHwoRl3jS7aOBhIzhvDs8=; b=vVbXycU3XBVn+OE0BNHl5UcTPsHEdVF9b1hSI5wI0MoNxbk+wACpS3K1JBFsjrZgmo C40Wdre1XETvEku0HVGAPBniYUrScWsDI9/7J4+dvICjwb4S4Qb78JcduWgRyC3sveqq NML32r2g/cJEi8Um28obKK0e36x85aS0op/aQmx+bQGpALOwLu/Z2hN3haRsK255seDg UPbWE5c0+FksYB6w08KqnFnXA5DTy02M25V8PefMnAtGuo0vhxIIbcHK8mkmfbnosrR9 gQYaYRWOkQbN2apr5lSa3hQJja4ttaXGNa96Z7dhfNQIo1t289kaZ3I7MPS5hUzFl+t8 ivNA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.105.129 with SMTP id dq1mr8129539icc.31.1354547404410; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 07:10:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.81.75 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 07:10:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120812205041.ab54f512.taku@tackymt.homeip.net> References: <50278FF4.3040706@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20120812205041.ab54f512.taku@tackymt.homeip.net> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 13:10:04 -0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD development audio system: KLANG From: Marcel Bonnet To: Taku YAMAMOTO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD multimedia , Current FreeBSD , "O. Hartmann" X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 15:10:05 -0000 On 12 August 2012 08:50, Taku YAMAMOTO wrote: > I think it should be forwarded to -multimedia@. > Other than that, it's nice to hear about! > > On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 13:13:56 +0200 > "O. Hartmann" wrote: > >> A few days ago, I stumbled into sthis at Phoronix: >> >> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE1NzY > > The above link didn't work for me... > >> KLANG is supposed to be an exchange audio system for the kernel, >> replacing several userland backed systems. Phoronix also claims this >> approach is supposed to support the FreeBSD kernel and yes, I'd like to >> see something been developed not even for Linux these days. >> >> On the website of KLANG, located here, >> >> http://klang.eudyptula.org/ >> >> I couldn't find much of information regarding FreeBSD. >> >> But I'd like to draw attention towards this for FreeBSD people, if they >> didn't already have noticed. It is like in science - no spreading of >> informations makes it hard to discover what's going on ... >> >> >> I'm not sorry for the noise, > > Don't worry, generating a noise is the primary goal for sound systems :) > > -- > -|-__ YAMAMOTO, Taku > | __ < > > - A chicken is an egg's way of producing more eggs. - > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-multimedia > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-multimedia-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hi guys, this is a little old topic (4 months) but since KLANG spread over so many mailing lists (not only about FreeBSD audio and kernel) and nobody seemed to read this "http://ardour.org/pd_on_klang", I thought it could be a usefull reading. Cheers, -- Marcel Bonnet www.monovox.net.br From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 4 05:37:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52552AD0 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 05:37:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from muhhhhh@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc2-s10.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s10.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE5B8FC19 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 05:37:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SNT002-W170 ([65.55.90.71]) by snt0-omc2-s10.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 3 Dec 2012 21:36:12 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [174.92.33.103] From: Lamie Holubek To: "freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org" Subject: Realtek ALC270 - Headphone Jack Inoperative Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 00:36:12 -0500 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2012 05:36:12.0455 (UTC) FILETIME=[45535B70:01CDD1E1] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 05:37:19 -0000 Hello=2C I'm using FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE AMD64(built from source)=2C a standard kernel= with no customizations. My headphone jack will not work. This is with a Re= altek ALC270. I currently have my hints file set up to switch the speakers = off when I plug headphones in=2C and that works=2C but no sound is heard fr= om the headphones.=20 I have tried many different things to try and get it working and I've had n= o luck. Jack detection does work=2C because it shows up with verbose messag= es enabled. I have done pindumps=2C and gathered other information and am w= illing to provide more if needed. If anyone could help me=2C that would be = great. cat /dev/sndstat --------------------- pcm0: (play/rec) default pcm1: (rec) pcm2: (play) /boot/device.hints ----------------------- hint.hdac.0.cad0.nid20.config=3D"as=3D2 seq=3D0" hint.hdac.0.cad0.nid33.config=3D"as=3D2 seq=3D15 device=3DHeadphones" pinout ------------------ hdac0: mem 0xf7a10000-0xf7a13fff irq 2= 2 at device 27.0 on pci0 hdacc0: at cad 0 on hdac0 hdaa0: at nid 1 on hdacc0 pcm0: at nid 20=2C33 and 25 on hdaa0 pcm1: at nid 24 on hdaa0 hdacc1: at cad 3 on hdac0 hdaa1: at nid 1 on hdacc1 pcm2: at nid 6 on hdaa1 dmesg | grep hdaa hdaa0: at nid 1 on hdacc0 hdaa0: Audio Function Group at nid=3D1: 34 subnodes 2-35 hdaa0: NumGPIO=3D2 NumGPO=3D0 NumGPI=3D0 GPIWake=3D0 GPIUnsol=3D1 hdaa0: GPIO0: disabled hdaa0: GPIO1: disabled hdaa0: Original pins configuration: hdaa0: nid 0x as seq device conn jack loc color =20 misc hdaa0: 18 411111f0 15 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black =20 1 hdaa0: 20 90170110 1 0 Speaker Fixed Analog Internal Unknown=20 1 hdaa0: 23 411111f0 15 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black =20 1 hdaa0: 24 04a11840 4 0 Mic Jack 1/8 Right Black =20 8 hdaa0: 25 90a70930 3 0 Mic Fixed Analog Internal Unknown=20 9 hdaa0: 26 411111f0 15 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black =20 1 hdaa0: 27 411111f0 15 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black =20 1 hdaa0: 29 40089d2d 2 13 Line-out None DIN 0x00 Pink =20 13 hdaa0: 30 411111f0 15 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black =20 1 hdaa0: 33 04211020 2 0 Headphones Jack 1/8 Right Black =20 0 hdaa0: Patching widget caps nid=3D29 0x00400000 -> 0x00700000 hdaa0: Patching pin config nid=3D33 0x04211020 -> 0x0421102f hdaa0: Patched pins configuration: hdaa0: nid 0x as seq device conn jack loc color =20 misc hdaa0: 18 411111f0 15 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black =20 1 DISA hdaa0: 20 90170110 1 0 Speaker Fixed Analog Internal Unknown=20 1 hdaa0: 23 411111f0 15 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black =20 1 DISA hdaa0: 24 04a11840 4 0 Mic Jack 1/8 Right Black =20 8 hdaa0: 25 90a70930 3 0 Mic Fixed Analog Internal Unknown=20 9 hdaa0: 26 411111f0 15 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black =20 1 DISA hdaa0: 27 411111f0 15 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black =20 1 DISA hdaa0: 30 411111f0 15 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black =20 1 DISA hdaa0: 33 0421102f 2 15 Headphones Jack 1/8 Right Black =20 0 hdaa0: 4 associations found: hdaa0: Association 0 (1) out: hdaa0: Pin nid=3D20 seq=3D0 hdaa0: Association 1 (2) out: hdaa0: Pin nid=3D33 seq=3D15 hdaa0: Association 2 (3) in: hdaa0: Pin nid=3D25 seq=3D0 hdaa0: Association 3 (4) in: hdaa0: Pin nid=3D24 seq=3D0 hdaa0: Tracing association 0 (1) hdaa0: Pin 20 traced to DAC 2 hdaa0: Association 0 (1) trace succeeded hdaa0: Tracing association 1 (2) hdaa0: Pin 33 traced to DAC 3 hdaa0: Association 1 (2) trace succeeded hdaa0: Tracing association 2 (3) hdaa0: Pin 25 traced to ADC 8 hdaa0: Association 2 (3) trace succeeded hdaa0: Tracing association 3 (4) hdaa0: Pin 24 traced to ADC 9 hdaa0: Association 3 (4) trace succeeded hdaa0: Looking for additional DAC for association 0 (1) hdaa0: Looking for additional DAC for association 1 (2) Jack detection demonstration -------------------------------------- hdaa0: Pin sense: nid=3D33 sence=3D0x80000000 (connected) pcm0: Redirect output to: headphones hdaa0: Pin sense: nid=3D33 sence=3D0x00000000 (disconnected) pcm0: Redirect output to: main = From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 4 10:56:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74505B1E for ; 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Tue, 4 Dec 2012 02:56:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 11:56:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: request to include Apple Losless Audio Codecs into Audacious From: Hans Ruhe To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 10:56:25 -0000 Dear maintainer, I am testing for PCBSD together with Ken Moore and he suggested to send a request to you. I am playing high resolution files in Apple Lossless Audio format ( . M4U) and would like it a lot if you include them in Audicious for the 9.1 RC 3 or the final release of course. The license is under the Apache license so it it Open source. I really would appreciate if you could port it to Audicious. Best regards, Hans From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 5 15:58:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 452926D for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 15:58:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24DF38FC08 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 15:58:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TgHMU-0001Wd-Vf for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 07:58:14 -0800 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 07:58:14 -0800 (PST) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1354723094926-5766828.post@n5.nabble.com> Subject: Why 24/192kHz sound is not a solution. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:58:16 -0000 While searching why I cannot play 24bit source (snd_hda, [AO OSS] Can't set audio device /dev/dsp to s24le output, trying s16le... Still don't know why though.) I've found really interesting piece of article, well researched and precise: http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html I'm sure developers know about it already, but nonetheless I think it's good find and pleasurable read. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Why-24-192kHz-sound-is-not-a-solution-tp5766828.html Sent from the freebsd-multimedia mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 5 17:48:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FADB8A for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 17:48:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from user.vdr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66CE8FC14 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 17:47:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id 16so6764925obc.13 for ; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 09:47:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=/46CL47rZYJHcD3IYC6kmJnOPNaiagQgWh9GkLnVVNM=; b=1IbEmtJkRoMW1wc7+hoko/dWBqfRL92rv4pO5OHdt9IQ7UCib5VuVlm/DR16wbv29o N7xhoyaiSIR28cvTLA6sqEcIiuuE0CmS4lobw2iFlrIYtUMPefW+uaTLLDkTlGrkn6LB lATMmAl5YslFaiQ4HEJx3KJzJemUzf6rS/QMFnMfkngRrb6RnMvQ74SotDHsxSCN2B8n o50DI918vaxGlEcSsHBihbzMBQjU/cvLUA80LrvJePo9ZNAzCLHIHSgLW7x8OHgUu53F 33gzNL39KO3ZOcRiQ8FHVKm33jsR+kr06gDN9zOngL2wr6niUkZeuhzZwijEswmg1OwZ KFlQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.170.10 with SMTP id ai10mr15057273oec.72.1354729679510; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 09:47:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.110.138 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 09:47:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1354723094926-5766828.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1354723094926-5766828.post@n5.nabble.com> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 09:47:59 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why 24/192kHz sound is not a solution. From: VDR User To: Jakub Lach Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:48:00 -0000 On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Jakub Lach wrote: > While searching why I cannot play 24bit source > (snd_hda, [AO OSS] Can't set audio device /dev/dsp > to s24le output, trying s16le... Still don't know why > though.) > > I've found really interesting piece of article, well > researched and precise: > > http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html > > I'm sure developers know about it already, but nonetheless > I think it's good find and pleasurable read. I don't know that using the mailing list to post links to articles is appropriate, but 24/192 does matter when it comes to processing. As only a final output format, that article is completely correct but to completely disregard 24/192 is misleading because it does have benefit earlier in the production chain. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 6 09:19:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8D23A7 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 09:19:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thomas.e.zander@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f181.google.com (mail-ie0-f181.google.com [209.85.223.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805668FC17 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 09:19:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f181.google.com with SMTP id 16so9801739iea.40 for ; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 01:19:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=kqD6k201PVN9QEhzPBYLSGxOwjp/t5j5DwAyakqGrFw=; b=PsZVlUvHnYO0aaNYqrQwI+OrugfdA/b/An37ANLj3m9UhqApoY8+/lqdhLa7rpSpx5 /p3CQq7DXMIOB/fkc+53ZLA2GhTIjZsDsasyW+PbcrPZFCcyDFk5tTt28hdj+xeiG1df S1ZvbPAvC7R8leMFwkJY65UA7VcJJ1sJ0+nP6q77U2OAkc5kJk+y9PSQCKq4y3AWqxhE oZWiza0kLySanSzKiOjTij1PquT2DKvuqEnTO6hoEdRPr8hSnpxi9NCxnDMkLhx0wVH1 apoqlKX90dU9nqNY339UFeGSHdvNbCFM4bUEuRDKnYKTJf8zf6ltgrZSpRsAIZMacnQC wvIw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.6.169 with SMTP id c9mr779452iga.24.1354785580319; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 01:19:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.18.98 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 01:19:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1354723094926-5766828.post@n5.nabble.com> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 10:19:40 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why 24/192kHz sound is not a solution. From: Thomas Zander To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 09:19:41 -0000 On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:47 PM, VDR User wrote: >> http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html > > I don't know that using the mailing list to post links to articles is > appropriate, but 24/192 does matter when it comes to processing. Why should this be inappropriate? The article has a clear focus on the 24/192 topic and freebsd-multimedia@ is a place to discuss how FreeBSD should deal with this. IMHO there is nothing wrong with that. In my opinion there is one answer: If the sound chip accepts 24/192, then our sound system should be able to use this capability. Riggs From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 6 09:40:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C4FCE8 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 09:40:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm25.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm25.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.109.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D578FC1A for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 09:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.82.105.245] by nm25.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Dec 2012 09:40:34 -0000 Received: from [217.146.189.106] by tm17.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Dec 2012 09:40:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp122.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Dec 2012 09:40:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1354786834; bh=8KyAH1pL68AX5FC5bbzmjpabsCVRpCQ1drOMIqlhy9w=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=sYIDWeT14jhF664sOccJcrkLMxx/fBDTavE953kxql8uUYV58H9hbgZ0Ydk41LdcMW6W0wpDv+JjWnGy7tGTyAL/YU+ugXsEYse78Mn+dqAfaCs6kB4nkxG/rBdrb95cIXdTgh9dNICszQHo9Tf+I9XBND8rpe6u3xdwzmysgvI= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 664545.87949.bm@smtp122.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: JqDSr1wVM1maRk_qNkfjEXfiewWv9IJYQl38._iP51eWMza wl99Ep4.HFzXt43rN6zG0lyQ5pplSyor9XMbFJT7z9VtGBDdouKYoI06ukHa dATb7INLFzze65MyICcvUblb3u_tOnTDjJw5e.pOEVk9gPTwpsMXlHyO6nM0 Ld8iXJk6jav7XzcFDMBQLkdiMiABEMs6iOHccYRNH6PQh3wjb3l5HKY.tWa3 ahOu9QNQNmmFnfI_aMP0JRNexgRjgQPdT14XWbLoj0SFwIv9nNib77LW7pKi YxpX6N7nQU58VrMmJ_mbrLHs2EtbUf7KM0AxV13ZZkraTRyV0pArdaU8uwMc YwixW56CfvL2CcrDB3p5dpz6jQAgs88nOBz_SN8GwKVn3tRLyTNm_JDp7IKz p49LcnMSmxL0.4FuiDUVHAmZ2mmSYhltu1xOLd1c- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from [85.182.19.224] (ralf.mardorf@85.182.19.224 with login) by smtp122.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Dec 2012 01:40:34 -0800 PST Message-ID: <1354786833.6430.8.camel@q> Subject: Re: Why 24/192kHz sound is not a solution. From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 10:40:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <1354723094926-5766828.post@n5.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.0-0ubuntu3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 09:40:42 -0000 On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 09:47 -0800, VDR User wrote: > I don't know that using the mailing list to post links to articles is > appropriate, but 24/192 does matter when it comes to processing. As > only a final output format, that article is completely correct but to > completely disregard 24/192 is misleading because it does have benefit > earlier in the production chain. I didn't read the article, I only read the mails. You don't need more than 48KHz/32-bit float. 48 KHz is high enough to protect against the Nyquist issue and for production there are advantages, when using a high bit rate and floating point. What benefit should there be, when using 192KHz? Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 6 10:43:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049A5AB6 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 10:43:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D092C8FC08 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 10:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TgYvj-00037C-Ln for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 02:43:47 -0800 Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 02:43:47 -0800 (PST) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1354790627663-5767037.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1354723094926-5766828.post@n5.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Why 24/192kHz sound is not a solution. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 10:43:54 -0000 Well, my reasoning was that if FreeBSD is going to include (which I'm happy it does) drivers like snd_hdspe and envy24ht (at least on the far end of consumer grade IMHO), people considering using such cards would like to know/ rebut/ form an opinion. On the unrelated note, does snd_uaudio is really all I need to happily use products as FiiO E10 or E17 with a notebook, bypassing internal sound chip? -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Why-24-192kHz-sound-is-not-a-solution-tp5766828p5767037.html Sent from the freebsd-multimedia mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 6 13:44:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD0227F for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 13:44:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B8E8FC08 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 13:44:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p57BCFE12.dip.t-dialin.net [87.188.254.18]) (authenticated bits=128) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB6Dj7H1016700; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 14:45:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id qB6Di2Ew049730; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 14:44:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB6DhoWt096397; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 14:43:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201212061343.qB6DhoWt096397@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Hans Ruhe Subject: Re: request to include Apple Losless Audio Codecs into Audacious From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 04 Dec 2012 11:56:23 +0100." Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:43:50 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:44:16 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: Hans Ruhe > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 11:56:23 +0100 > Message-id: Hans Ruhe wrote: > To: multimedia@freebsd.org > > Dear maintainer, > > I am testing for PCBSD together with Ken Moore and he suggested to send a > request to you. > > I am playing high resolution files in Apple Lossless Audio format ( . M4U) > and would like it a lot if you include them in Audicious for the 9.1 RC 3 > or the final release of course. > > The license is under the Apache license so it it Open source. > > I really would appreciate if you could port it to Audicious. > > Best regards, > Hans Hi Hans Ruhe You mailed wrong address, You should have looked up /usr/ports/multimedia/audacious/Makefile & found MAINTAINER= oliver@FreeBSD.org & mailed him, not us. (I checked in branches/-current/ports/ it's still oliver@ Please learn method above to find right address Then mail right address Send a patch, cc'd to MAINTAINER, see man send-pr http://www.freebsd.org/support/bugreports.html Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with "> ". Send plain text. Not: HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 6 16:22:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078A19A1 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 16:22:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from user.vdr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f171.google.com (mail-ie0-f171.google.com [209.85.223.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB418FC08 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 16:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f171.google.com with SMTP id 17so12317436iea.30 for ; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 08:22:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ct83+pcL4v9T+9caZBhlFAOyRSEEdn22kuRmkjMCOzw=; b=UtPgjq5myR1cmllWAO+CbMTVR0y3l4kprL6q5juLJjcnJZaQ4glWzJamVLop917MnT Ab2akoDxTrie3j/i/DZi3HBEf14Nc9i042xcRG0lCphlXqT+c/OqzqsD061xkrQC4y7B vcQuf6Y7vpgGUJYoO2mtvIZB3yLZl4o8ylK8AtAv/AXkQ8LuaN5u0IqCBR/QoWCN68z2 +PdZ0FPJVaECbueygZlkXgpGIqBjXC1E3iC9roQ/YS5Y9ynK84eNgyW2i1x5koYaT8Oi cPkjA5ryFpDnUHLq/fQ86k8i3bny2TkfoHdvijoeS1GSzY2cqBmgjvmywW3vs0REFsVB OIBA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.213.7 with SMTP id no7mr2026947igc.18.1354810467810; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 08:14:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.111.71 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:14:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1354723094926-5766828.post@n5.nabble.com> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:14:27 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why 24/192kHz sound is not a solution. From: VDR User To: Thomas Zander Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 16:22:33 -0000 On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Thomas Zander wrote: >>> http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html >> >> I don't know that using the mailing list to post links to articles is >> appropriate, but 24/192 does matter when it comes to processing. > > Why should this be inappropriate? The article has a clear focus on the > 24/192 topic and freebsd-multimedia@ is a place to discuss how FreeBSD > should deal with this. IMHO there is nothing wrong with that. > In my opinion there is one answer: If the sound chip accepts 24/192, > then our sound system should be able to use this capability. I'm in several mailing lists and in all cases it's generally frowned upon when people use them to post links to articles. Most people consider it spam. Also, having a discussion about features/support in a driver is on thing, but that is not the same as having a discussion about the nature and technical aspects of sound. If you don't understand why those conversations are completely different and not relevant to a drivers lack of support, I'm not sure what to tell you. I do agree with your opinion about capability support. If the hardware supports it, so should the software. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 6 16:27:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43031A4E for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 16:27:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from user.vdr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CB78FC18 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 16:27:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id s9so12669236iec.13 for ; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 08:27:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=s7fGYgj6cHbQrwJj9HSlY79lzFdyARGj6khtvUEsfcc=; b=hX473mFvXAVG60ClUxcNyqjKBZGVIOLwyX0bAgK0oNN0GGSoZ74e720L+rpR3h/TA3 xRLAE06Ug04Eb8MJTI2w3lGZ2AFsb9u6wHo7h/Vx0W001SjhAj16LNLTbqCMq//y51q4 XCWRmyEleSpa2YELZWvpwoKeMLxJHXxMNaEgoSktSjVedIYS8z6IE6pEXnWUe7SgAq6N CE86my59t0pDT5sjvi24AQg57GzJsDr6yyDJl4KULJ0/WJg56W6XQzg//0wONL3XJitY K3k48dp74p2qJNM5X9TfQEDlql7ApI7Bivle8c3pq3IZU91/1yqrvBaoALDmcDnGWjCk Q+XQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.117.197 with SMTP id fn5mr1853015icc.7.1354811256215; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 08:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.111.71 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:27:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1354786833.6430.8.camel@q> References: <1354723094926-5766828.post@n5.nabble.com> <1354786833.6430.8.camel@q> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:27:36 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why 24/192kHz sound is not a solution. From: VDR User To: Ralf Mardorf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 16:27:37 -0000 On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> I don't know that using the mailing list to post links to articles is >> appropriate, but 24/192 does matter when it comes to processing. As >> only a final output format, that article is completely correct but to >> completely disregard 24/192 is misleading because it does have benefit >> earlier in the production chain. > > I didn't read the article, I only read the mails. > You don't need more than 48KHz/32-bit float. 48 KHz is high enough to > protect against the Nyquist issue and for production there are > advantages, when using a high bit rate and floating point. > > What benefit should there be, when using 192KHz? No offense but it's always the people with little-to-no experience & knowledge that seem to think they know what's right/good/proper/correct/enough. There's no shortage of bedroom/google "pros" that like to argue with the real ones who do it for a living. You have to realize that there's far more than nyquist in play. At the very least you need to consider the source signal, what kind of processing needs to be done, and how it will be delivered sonically in post. Audio can be manipulate in scores of different ways and the different methods & algorithms used to do so perform at different levels. In other words, what works well at X may not be as efficient or produce the same results at Y. In laymans terms there is not a one-size-fits-all anything when it comes to audio (the same being true for video as well). From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 6 18:13:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03ED5B23 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 18:13:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354718FC14 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 18:13:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id qB6I0TnM070873; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 05:00:29 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 05:00:29 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Thomas Zander Subject: Re: Why 24/192kHz sound is not a solution. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20121207045002.V24050@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <1354723094926-5766828.post@n5.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 18:13:55 -0000 On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 10:19:40 +0100, Thomas Zander wrote: > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:47 PM, VDR User wrote: > > >> http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html > > > > I don't know that using the mailing list to post links to articles is > > appropriate, but 24/192 does matter when it comes to processing. As the author points out, 24bit (or 32bit floats, as I use pre-mixdown) and 96 or 192k are fine during production stages. His focus was on the relative idiocy of using 24 bit or 192kHz for final product / download. > Why should this be inappropriate? The article has a clear focus on the > 24/192 topic and freebsd-multimedia@ is a place to discuss how FreeBSD > should deal with this. IMHO there is nothing wrong with that. Absolutely. I was really glad that Jakub posted it; it's appropriate to work I'm doing and confirms in technical terms what I suspected anyway. > In my opinion there is one answer: If the sound chip accepts 24/192, > then our sound system should be able to use this capability. Surely. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 6 21:28:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667CA823 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 21:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieterbsd@engineer.com) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 303C78FC13 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 21:28:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 16086 invoked by uid 0); 6 Dec 2012 21:21:36 -0000 Received: from 67.206.184.25 by rms-us015 with HTTP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 16:21:34 -0500 From: "Dieter BSD" Message-ID: <20121206212136.238100@gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Support for "old" hardware (was:Re: kern/148741: [sound] Headphones are deaf (do not work) on Lenovo ThinkPad X300) To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Authenticated: #74169980 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: GMX.com Web Mailer x-registered: 0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: N2mzcGY83zOlNR3dAHAh0S9+IGRvb0C6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 21:28:18 -0000 > Alexander writes: >> AC'97 is absolutely different beast. It is so old that I have no plans >> to spend my time on fixing it. AC97 is still being used in new designs. Andriy writes: > Is Alexander obliged to work on support for this hardware? Alexander is not obliged to add new support, but is obliged to not break existing support. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 7 01:13:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4452876 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 01:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from user.vdr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f174.google.com (mail-ie0-f174.google.com [209.85.223.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A438FC08 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 01:13:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f174.google.com with SMTP id c11so12767831ieb.33 for ; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:13:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=AbMhMzsSOwjQi65nd3v0dZH4mfDP9+yjZQEdw54RK7I=; b=qryfrShu0vmvedEMkX47uCPq3sSEfiAVg922i/R09F99znNjoqTjMvMfyotTKoQNkb IjjGs59awHwqBkq/fkl7IRKQtu/NYAx4CsgeyV4pha+WjiY7vZS1A0JBlR+PNeOHpcDD w0B/fFQWN0G6/M4zOphc2bIMb2dqC1gkpQbeQGjLkN0kgvvi3zd5f9pzQ+lc5xoyH1Yf cknrFqZvNun48dnExgDnGRlqiFBXNN5WlX7oI8yAgi4HszvlPAYEYX5UPc0KH+C09lbg 6b88R9vcJ99pEwnsunyCsRE4KAO8lswBuINn5S85ftVcKaeL1xiQgx1JVc+mfSphqNNT qVWg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.150.175 with SMTP id uj15mr7648325igb.52.1354842832392; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:13:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.111.71 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 17:13:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20121207045002.V24050@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <1354723094926-5766828.post@n5.nabble.com> <20121207045002.V24050@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 17:13:52 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why 24/192kHz sound is not a solution. From: VDR User To: Ian Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 01:13:58 -0000 On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > > > I don't know that using the mailing list to post links to articles is > > > appropriate, but 24/192 does matter when it comes to processing. > > As the author points out, 24bit (or 32bit floats, as I use pre-mixdown) > and 96 or 192k are fine during production stages. His focus was on the > relative idiocy of using 24 bit or 192kHz for final product / download. It isn't a matter of being "fine" or not. It's a matter of whether or not you need it based on your source material and/or to achieve particular results. There is a very big difference between that and what you're implying. Additionally, if you don't understand why or when 24/192 is needed, then you also don't understand why or when it isn't. > > Why should this be inappropriate? The article has a clear focus on the > > 24/192 topic and freebsd-multimedia@ is a place to discuss how FreeBSD > > should deal with this. IMHO there is nothing wrong with that. > > Absolutely. I was really glad that Jakub posted it; it's appropriate to > work I'm doing and confirms in technical terms what I suspected anyway. An article about whether or not 24/192 has purpose (in whatever application..meaning usage, not software) has nothing to do with pointing out that support for it is missing/not implemented. I can't imagine why anyone would confuse that. > > In my opinion there is one answer: If the sound chip accepts 24/192, > > then our sound system should be able to use this capability. > > Surely. That is the actual subject here and I'm sure most people would agree to the above. At least I hope so! From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 7 08:03:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84694539 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from forward2h.mail.yandex.net (forward2h.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:f05::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D74568FC0C for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:03:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2h.mail.yandex.net (smtp2h.mail.yandex.net [84.201.187.145]) by forward2h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id DF20C700CDA; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:03:41 +0400 (MSK) Received: from smtp2h.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 5A29F170041A; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:03:41 +0400 (MSK) Received: from 93.91.11.153.tel.ru (93.91.11.153.tel.ru [93.91.11.153]) by smtp2h.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id 3ekWb1Nn-3fku41ou; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:03:41 +0400 Message-ID: <50C1A2DC.6040700@passap.ru> Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 12:03:40 +0400 From: Boris Samorodov Organization: =?UTF-8?B?0JfQkNCeICLQktCQ0KDQoiI=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Juergen Lock Subject: Re: svn commit: r308098 - head/audio/linux-f10-alsa-lib References: <201212021128.qB2BSesC054251@svn.freebsd.org> <20121206225517.GA12093@triton8.kn-bremen.de> In-Reply-To: <20121206225517.GA12093@triton8.kn-bremen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org, =?UTF-8?B?SnVhbiBSYW3Ds24gTW9saW5hIE1l?= =?UTF-8?B?bm9y?= , Jan Beich X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:03:46 -0000 (moving the discussion to the multimedia list; or should it be freebsd-emulation?) 07.12.2012 02:55, Juergen Lock пишет: > On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 11:28:40AM +0000, Boris Samorodov wrote: >> Author: bsam >> Date: Sun Dec 2 11:28:40 2012 >> New Revision: 308098 >> URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/308098 >> >> Log: >> . create a link from native asound configuration file at LINUXBASE/etc; [1] >> . bump PORTREVISION; >> . trim headers to two line style; >> . remove the article from COMMENT. >> >> PR: ports/169896 [1] >> Submitted by: Jan Beich [1] >> Feature safe: yes >> >> Modified: >> head/audio/linux-f10-alsa-lib/Makefile >> >> Modified: head/audio/linux-f10-alsa-lib/Makefile >> ============================================================================== >> --- head/audio/linux-f10-alsa-lib/Makefile Sun Dec 2 10:58:49 2012 (r308097) >> +++ head/audio/linux-f10-alsa-lib/Makefile Sun Dec 2 11:28:40 2012 (r308098) >> @@ -1,20 +1,16 @@ >> -# New ports collection makefile for: audio/linux-f10-alsa-lib >> -# Date created: 2009-05-03 >> -# Whom: bsam >> -# >> # $FreeBSD$ >> -# >> +# Created by: Boris Samorodov >> >> PORTNAME= alsa-lib >> PORTVERSION= 1.0.21 >> -PORTREVISION= 1 >> +PORTREVISION= 2 >> CATEGORIES= audio linux >> MASTER_SITES= CRITICAL/rpm/${LINUX_RPM_ARCH}/fedora/${LINUX_DIST_VER} >> PKGNAMEPREFIX= linux-f10- >> DISTNAME= ${PORTNAME}-${PORTVERSION}-${RPMVERSION} >> >> MAINTAINER= emulation@FreeBSD.org >> -COMMENT= The Advanced Linux Sound Architecture libraries (Linux Fedora 10) >> +COMMENT= Advanced Linux Sound Architecture libraries (Linux Fedora 10) >> >> CONFLICTS= linux-alsa-lib-[0-9]* linux-f8-alsa-lib-[0-9]* >> >> @@ -25,4 +21,11 @@ RPMVERSION= 2.fc10 >> BRANDELF_FILES= usr/bin/aserver >> USE_LDCONFIG= yes >> >> +# We will use some other configuration file, so delete a linux one >> +post-extract: >> + @${RM} -r ${WRKSRC}/etc >> + >> +post-install: >> + @${LN} -s ${LOCALBASE}/etc/asound.conf ${PREFIX}/etc/asound.conf >> + >> .include > > This breaks at least installation of audio/linux-f10-alsa-plugins-oss > when audio/alsa-lib isn't installed (because the former tries to > write into asound.conf that then fails with ENOENT), and I guess > it will fail at runtime then too. > > The obvious idea for a fix is to add audio/alsa-lib as a dependency, > but probably the resulting config file mess when linux-f10-alsa-plugins-oss > is installed should be untangled too (and the fix tested with things > like skype that often needs an extra oss device for the mic.) Thanks, Juergen. 2All: Can someone come up with an appropriate patch/solution? Thanks! -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 7 08:29:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1824E11 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:29:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portsmonj.FreeBSD.org (portsmonj.freebsd.org [69.147.83.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB90E8FC18 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:29:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from portsmonj.freebsd.org (portsmonj.freebsd.org [69.147.83.46]) by portsmonj.FreeBSD.org (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB78SQT2026686 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:28:26 GMT (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:28:26 GMT Message-Id: <201212070828.qB78SQT2026686@portsmonj.FreeBSD.org> From: linimon@FreeBSD.org To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD ports that you maintain which are currently marked broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: portmgr-feedback@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:29:46 -0000 Dear FreeBSD port maintainer: As part of an ongoing effort to reduce the number of problems in the FreeBSD ports system, we periodically notify users of ports that are marked as "broken" in their Makefiles. In many cases these ports are failing to compile on some subset of the FreeBSD build environments. The most common problem is that recent versions of -CURRENT include gcc4.2, which is much stricter than older versions. The next most common problem is that compiles succeed on the i386 architecture (e.g. the common Intel PC), but fail on one or more of the other architectures due to assumptions about things such as size of various types, byte-alignment issues, and so forth. In occasional cases we see that the same port may have different errors in different build environments. The script that runs on the build cluster uses heuristics to try to 'guess' the error type to help you isolate problems, but it is only a rough guide. One more note: on occasion, there are transient build errors seen on the build farm. Unfortunately, there is not yet any way for this algorithm to tell the difference (humans are much, much better at this kind of thing.) The errors are listed below. In the case where the same problem exists on more than one build environment, the URL points to the latest errorlog for that type. (By 'build environment' here we mean 'combination of 7.x/8.x/9.x/-current with target architecture'.) (Note: the dates are included to help you to gauge whether or not the error still applies to the latest version. The program that generates this report is not yet able to determine this automatically.) portname: multimedia/linux-realplayer broken because: unfetchable build errors: http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/i386-errorlogs/e.10.20120608131052/linux-realplayer-10.0.9.809.20070726_3.log (_Jun_13_02:24:52_UTC_2012) overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=multimedia&portname=linux-realplayer If these errors are ones that you are already aware of, please accept our apologies and ignore this message. On the other hand, if you no longer wish to maintain this port (or ports), please reply with a message stating that, and accept our thanks for your efforts in the past. Every effort has been made to make sure that these error reports really do correspond to a port that you maintain. However, due to the fact that this is an automated process, it may indeed generate false matches. If one of these errors fits that description, please forward this email to the author of this software, Mark Linimon , so that he can attempt to fix the problem in the future. Thanks for your efforts to help improve FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 7 08:30:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD2B280 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:30:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portsmonj.FreeBSD.org (portsmonj.freebsd.org [69.147.83.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B518D8FC1B for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:30:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from portsmonj.freebsd.org (portsmonj.freebsd.org [69.147.83.46]) by portsmonj.FreeBSD.org (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB78TN1M032233 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:29:23 GMT (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:29:23 GMT Message-Id: <201212070829.qB78TN1M032233@portsmonj.FreeBSD.org> From: linimon@FreeBSD.org To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD ports that you maintain which are currently scheduled for deletion X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: portmgr-feedback@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:30:43 -0000 Dear FreeBSD port maintainer: As part of an ongoing effort to reduce the number of problems in the FreeBSD ports system, we periodically schedule removal of ports that have been judged to have outlived their usefulness. Often, this is due to a better alternative having become available and/or the cessation of development on the existing port. In some cases, ports are marked for removal because they fail to build and install correctly from their sources, or otherwise fail in operation. The ports, and the reason and date that they have been scheduled for removal, are listed below. If no one has stepped forward before that time to propose a way to fix the problems (such as via a PR), the ports will be deleted. portname: multimedia/libdvdplay description: Portable abstraction library for DVD navigation maintainer: multimedia@FreeBSD.org deprecated because: No more public_distfiles expiration date: 2012-10-20 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=multimedia&portname=libdvdplay If this problem is one that you are already aware of, please accept our apologies and ignore this message. On the other hand, if you no longer wish to maintain this port (or ports), please reply with a message stating that, and accept our thanks for your efforts in the past. Thanks for your efforts to help improve FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 7 11:03:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8AC5DE9 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 11:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbeich@tormail.org) Received: from outgoing.tormail.org (outgoing.tormail.org [82.221.96.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2972E8FC0C for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 11:03:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=internal.tormail.org) by outgoing.tormail.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TgviT-0007du-Ff; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:03:38 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tormail.org; s=tm; h=Message-Id:X-TorMail-User:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=txItWx0QqnHd6myuO4XF7Tc6Mszl/Mz+/eF6yfpNnms=; b=CtwWyXWpYwPEM1qqI/r8jLkzx1BkOaiJHtdQFXjsCDb5ZyTXuySTeoe24T2RxZ/UJ5sCGaeFFXcXKnDXpsYEGqQ/319Etcr1ilGyc7ZuJxgf9jBV+8cY+Z8V/KW0Y3NIGGIFA1BPCve0pY3kbpbNbhQNsB22YmS+YNL1Z4v6Cos=; Received: from jbeich by internal.tormail.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Tgvfs-000Kdu-Vy; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 11:01:08 +0000 From: Jan Beich To: Boris Samorodov Subject: Re: svn commit: r308098 - head/audio/linux-f10-alsa-lib In-Reply-To: <50C1A2DC.6040700@passap.ru> (Boris Samorodov's message of "Fri, 07 Dec 2012 12:03:40 +0400") Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 04:59:01 -0600 References: <201212021128.qB2BSesC054251@svn.freebsd.org> <20121206225517.GA12093@triton8.kn-bremen.de> <50C1A2DC.6040700@passap.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-TorMail-User: jbeich Message-Id: <1Tgvfs-000Kdu-Vy@internal.tormail.org> Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org, Juan =?utf-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n?= Molina Menor , Juergen Lock X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 11:03:48 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Boris Samorodov writes: > (moving the discussion to the multimedia list; or should it be > freebsd-emulation?) > > 07.12.2012 02:55, Juergen Lock =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: >> On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 11:28:40AM +0000, Boris Samorodov wrote: >>> Author: bsam >>> Date: Sun Dec 2 11:28:40 2012 >>> New Revision: 308098 >>> URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/308098 >>> >>> Log: >>> . create a link from native asound configuration file at LINUXBASE/et= c; [1] [...] >>> +# We will use some other configuration file, so delete a linux one >>> +post-extract: >>> + @${RM} -r ${WRKSRC}/etc >>> + >>> +post-install: >>> + @${LN} -s ${LOCALBASE}/etc/asound.conf ${PREFIX}/etc/asound.conf >>> + >>> .include >>=20 >> This breaks at least installation of audio/linux-f10-alsa-plugins-oss >> when audio/alsa-lib isn't installed (because the former tries to >> write into asound.conf that then fails with ENOENT), and I guess >> it will fail at runtime then too. >>=20 >> The obvious idea for a fix is to add audio/alsa-lib as a dependency, >> but probably the resulting config file mess when linux-f10-alsa-plugins-= oss >> is installed should be untangled too (and the fix tested with things >> like skype that often needs an extra oss device for the mic.) > > Thanks, Juergen. > > 2All: > > Can someone come up with an appropriate patch/solution? Why not just remove pkg-{,de}install scripts? linux-firefox fails to use OSS plugin with the auto-generated asound.conf. Also, other ports may have similar issue. net/linux-f10-openldap x11-fonts/linux-f10-fontconfig For one, linux-f10-fontconfig doesn't work inside jail without native fontconfig installed. --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=linux-alsa.diff Index: audio/linux-f10-alsa-lib/Makefile =================================================================== --- audio/linux-f10-alsa-lib/Makefile (revision 308395) +++ audio/linux-f10-alsa-lib/Makefile (working copy) @@ -12,6 +12,8 @@ DISTNAME= ${PORTNAME}-${PORTVERSION}-${RPMVERSION} MAINTAINER= emulation@FreeBSD.org COMMENT= Advanced Linux Sound Architecture libraries (Linux Fedora 10) +RUN_DEPENDS= ${LOCALBASE}/etc/asound.conf:${PORTSDIR}/audio/alsa-lib + CONFLICTS= linux-alsa-lib-[0-9]* linux-f8-alsa-lib-[0-9]* ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 amd64 @@ -21,11 +23,11 @@ RPMVERSION= 2.fc10 BRANDELF_FILES= usr/bin/aserver USE_LDCONFIG= yes -# We will use some other configuration file, so delete a linux one +# We will use native configuration file, so delete a linux one post-extract: @${RM} -r ${WRKSRC}/etc post-install: - @${LN} -s ${LOCALBASE}/etc/asound.conf ${PREFIX}/etc/asound.conf + @${LN} -s ${LOCALBASE}/etc/asound.conf ${PREFIX}/etc .include Index: audio/linux-f10-alsa-plugins-oss/Makefile =================================================================== --- audio/linux-f10-alsa-plugins-oss/Makefile (revision 308395) +++ audio/linux-f10-alsa-plugins-oss/Makefile (working copy) @@ -23,16 +23,8 @@ RPMVERSION= 3.fc10 SRC_DISTFILES= ${PORTNAME:S/-oss//}-${PORTVERSION}-${RPMVERSION}${SRC_SUFX} USE_LDCONFIG= yes -CONF_FILE= etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf +# We will use native configuration file, so delete a linux one +post-extract: + @${RM} -r ${WRKSRC}/etc -post-patch: - @${RM} ${WRKSRC}/${CONF_FILE}.orig - @${MV} ${WRKSRC}/${CONF_FILE} ${WRKSRC}/${CONF_FILE}-dist - -post-install: - @if [ ! -f ${PREFIX}/${CONF_FILE} ]; then \ - ${CP} -p ${PREFIX}/${CONF_FILE}-dist ${PREFIX}/${CONF_FILE} ; \ - fi - PKG_PREFIX=${PREFIX} ${SH} ${PKGINSTALL} ${PKGNAME} POST-INSTALL - .include Index: audio/linux-f10-alsa-plugins-oss/files/patch-pcm-oss.conf =================================================================== --- audio/linux-f10-alsa-plugins-oss/files/patch-pcm-oss.conf (revision 308395) +++ audio/linux-f10-alsa-plugins-oss/files/patch-pcm-oss.conf (working copy) @@ -1,14 +0,0 @@ ---- etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf.orig 2010-03-23 10:56:41.000000000 +0900 -+++ etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf 2010-03-23 10:57:30.000000000 +0900 -@@ -7,3 +7,11 @@ - description "Open Sound System" - } - } -+ -+ctl.oss { -+ type oss -+ device /dev/mixer -+ hint { -+ description "Open Sound System" -+ } -+} Index: audio/linux-f10-alsa-plugins-oss/pkg-deinstall =================================================================== --- audio/linux-f10-alsa-plugins-oss/pkg-deinstall (revision 308395) +++ audio/linux-f10-alsa-plugins-oss/pkg-deinstall (working copy) @@ -1,16 +0,0 @@ -#!/bin/sh - -case "$2" in - POST-DEINSTALL) - conf=${PKG_PREFIX}/etc/asound.conf - if [ ! -f "$conf" ]; then - exit 1 - fi - grep -v '/etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss\.conf' <$conf >/tmp/asound.conf.new - ;; - *) - exit 0 - ;; -esac - -exit 0 Index: audio/linux-f10-alsa-plugins-oss/pkg-install =================================================================== --- audio/linux-f10-alsa-plugins-oss/pkg-install (revision 308395) +++ audio/linux-f10-alsa-plugins-oss/pkg-install (working copy) @@ -1,18 +0,0 @@ -#!/bin/sh - -case "$2" in - POST-INSTALL) - conf=${PKG_PREFIX}/etc/asound.conf - if [ ! -f "$conf" ]; then - exit 1 - fi - awk '{print $0}; /files/ { print "\t\t\t\"/etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf\""}' <$conf >/tmp/asound.conf.new - mv /tmp/asound.conf.new $conf - exit 0 - ;; - *) - exit 0 - ;; -esac - -exit 0 Index: audio/linux-f10-alsa-plugins-oss/pkg-plist =================================================================== --- audio/linux-f10-alsa-plugins-oss/pkg-plist (revision 308395) +++ audio/linux-f10-alsa-plugins-oss/pkg-plist (working copy) @@ -1,13 +1,7 @@ -@unexec if cmp -s %D/etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf-dist %D/etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf; then rm -f %D/etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf; fi -etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf-dist -@exec if [ ! -f %D/etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf ] ; then cp -p %D/%F %B/pcm-oss.conf; fi usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_oss.so usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_oss.so usr/share/doc/alsa-plugins-oss-1.0.21/COPYING usr/share/doc/alsa-plugins-oss-1.0.21/COPYING.GPL usr/share/doc/alsa-plugins-oss-1.0.21/README-pcm-oss @dirrm usr/share/doc/alsa-plugins-oss-1.0.21 -@dirrmtry etc/alsa/pcm -@dirrmtry etc/alsa @dirrmtry usr/lib/alsa-lib -@unexec if [ -f %D/etc/asound.conf ]; then fgrep -v '/etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf' <%D/etc/asound.conf >/tmp/asound.conf.new; mv /tmp/asound.conf.new %D/etc/asound.conf; fi --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 7 19:28:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48093A07 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 19:28:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from mail.neu.net (neu.net [199.48.129.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BEE8FC15 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 19:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from neu.net (neu.net [199.48.129.194]) by mail.neu.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qB7JRw9w008659 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:27:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:27:57 -0500 (EST) From: AN To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: problem with VLC and hardware acceleration Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at my.mail.server X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.5 tests=RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.neu.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 19:28:06 -0000 FreeBSD FBSD10 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r243968: Thu Dec 6 23:43:48 EST 2012 root@FBSD10:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL amd64 Having a problem getting hardware acceleration running on current. I have the following installed: # pkg info |grep vlc vlc-2.0.4,3 Qt4 based multimedia player and streaming server # pkg info |grep libva libva-1.1.0_2 VAAPI wrapper and dummy driver pkg info |grep libvdpa libvdpau-0.5_1 VDPAU wrapper and tracing library # pkg info |grep ffm ffmpeg-0.7.13_6,1 Realtime audio/video encoder/converter and streaming server ffmpeg1-1.0.1 Realtime audio/video encoder/converter and streaming server gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.13 GStreamer plug-in for manipulating MPEG video streams I built and rebuilt all ports with libva and libvdpau acceleration enabled. I was able to see support compiled into the ports, but something is still broken. I just built this system from scratch using clang, maybe one of the ports still needs to use GCC? On my previous system with the same hardware I was able to get this working when the base system and ports were compiled with GCC4.2, so it leads me to believe it has something to do with compiling ports with clang. Here is info from vainfo: # vainfo libva info: VA-API version 0.33.0 libva info: va_getDriverName() returns 0 libva info: Trying to open /usr/local/lib/va/nvidia_drv_video.so libva info: va_openDriver() returns -1 vaInitialize failed with error code -1 (unknown libva error),exit Not sure what to try now, any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 7 21:57:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA9C9D8 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 21:57:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nox@jelal.kn-bremen.de) Received: from smtp.kn-bremen.de (gelbbaer.kn-bremen.de [78.46.108.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA278FC13 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 21:57:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kn-bremen.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 4524D1E00079; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 22:57:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from triton8.kn-bremen.de (noident@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by triton8.kn-bremen.de (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB7Lu6x7047690; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 22:56:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nox@triton8.kn-bremen.de) Received: (from nox@localhost) by triton8.kn-bremen.de (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id qB7Lu5Hm047689; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 22:56:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nox) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 22:56:05 +0100 (CET) From: Juergen Lock Message-Id: <201212072156.qB7Lu5Hm047689@triton8.kn-bremen.de> To: andy@neu.net Subject: Re: problem with VLC and hardware acceleration X-Newsgroups: local.list.freebsd.multimedia In-Reply-To: Organization: Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:57:42 -0000 In article you write: >FreeBSD FBSD10 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r243968: Thu Dec 6 >23:43:48 EST 2012 root@FBSD10:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL amd64 > >Having a problem getting hardware acceleration running on current. I have >the following installed: ># pkg info |grep vlc >vlc-2.0.4,3 Qt4 based multimedia player and streaming >server ># pkg info |grep libva >libva-1.1.0_2 VAAPI wrapper and dummy driver > pkg info |grep libvdpa >libvdpau-0.5_1 VDPAU wrapper and tracing library ># pkg info |grep ffm >ffmpeg-0.7.13_6,1 Realtime audio/video encoder/converter and >streaming server >ffmpeg1-1.0.1 Realtime audio/video encoder/converter and >streaming server >gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.13 GStreamer plug-in for manipulating MPEG >video streams > >I built and rebuilt all ports with libva and libvdpau acceleration >enabled. I was able to see support compiled into the ports, but something >is still broken. I just built this system from scratch using clang, maybe >one of the ports still needs to use GCC? On my previous system with the >same hardware I was able to get this working when the base system and >ports were compiled with GCC4.2, so it leads me to believe it has >something to do with compiling ports with clang. > >Here is info from vainfo: ># vainfo >libva info: VA-API version 0.33.0 >libva info: va_getDriverName() returns 0 >libva info: Trying to open /usr/local/lib/va/nvidia_drv_video.so >libva info: va_openDriver() returns -1 >vaInitialize failed with error code -1 (unknown libva error),exit > >Not sure what to try now, any help would be appreciated. Thanks in >advance. You can test the clang theory by building for example the libva port with gcc, i.e. put USE_GCC= any in it's port Makefile. And if that doesn't help try building the libva-vdpau-driver or libvdpau ports with gcc too. And don't forget to report what you find of course... :) HTH, Juergen From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 7 22:57:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BCDBC8 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 22:57:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from mail.neu.net (neu.net [199.48.129.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38798FC13 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 22:57:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from neu.net (neu.net [199.48.129.194]) by mail.neu.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qB7Mv34j009211; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 17:57:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 17:57:03 -0500 (EST) From: AN To: Juergen Lock Subject: Re: problem with VLC and hardware acceleration In-Reply-To: <201212072156.qB7Lu5Hm047689@triton8.kn-bremen.de> Message-ID: References: <201212072156.qB7Lu5Hm047689@triton8.kn-bremen.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at my.mail.server X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.5 tests=RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.neu.net Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 22:57:12 -0000 On Fri, 7 Dec 2012, Juergen Lock wrote: > > You can test the clang theory by building for example the libva port > with gcc, i.e. put > > USE_GCC= any > > in it's port Makefile. And if that doesn't help try building > the libva-vdpau-driver or libvdpau ports with gcc too. > > And don't forget to report what you find of course... :) > > HTH, > Juergen > Hi Juergen: Well I got a little bit further, but still no hardware acceleration. I had to install libva-vdpau-driver, for some reason it was not installed. Shouldn't it have been installed by one of the other ports? Maybe I am missing some other port that I need? So now I have: # vainfo libva info: VA-API version 0.33.0 libva info: va_getDriverName() returns 0 libva info: Trying to open /usr/local/lib/va/nvidia_drv_video.so libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_0_33 libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0 vainfo: VA-API version: 0.33 (libva 1.1.0) vainfo: Driver version: Splitted-Desktop Systems VDPAU backend for VA-API - 0.7.4 vainfo: Supported profile and entrypoints VAProfileMPEG2Simple : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileMPEG2Main : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileMPEG4Simple : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileMPEG4AdvancedSimple : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileH264Main : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileH264High : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileVC1Simple : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileVC1Main : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileVC1Advanced : VAEntrypointVLD But when I run vlc I do not see hardware acceleration. [0x803c2a078] main input debug: looking for a subtitle file in /root/Music/ [0x80e06c458] main decoder debug: looking for decoder module: 28 candidates [0x80e06c458] main decoder debug: using decoder module "faad" [0x80e06c458] main decoder debug: TIMER module_need() : 1.959 ms - Total 1.959 ms / 1 intvls (Avg 1.959 ms) [0x80e06cc58] main decoder debug: looking for decoder module: 28 candidates [0x80e06cc58] avcodec decoder debug: libavcodec initialized (interface 0x363b64) [0x80e06cc58] avcodec decoder debug: trying to use direct rendering [0x80e06cc58] avcodec decoder debug: allowing 1 thread(s) for decoding [0x80e06cc58] avcodec decoder debug: ffmpeg codec (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10)) started [0x80e06cc58] main decoder debug: using decoder module "avcodec" [0x80e06cc58] main decoder debug: TIMER module_need() : 7.807 ms - Total 7.807 ms / 1 intvls (Avg 7.807 ms) I recompiled ffmpeg1-1.0.1 libva libva-vdpau-driver with GCC, but it still doesn't work. Giving up for now. Has anyone got it working with world and ports compiled with clang? From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 8 08:40:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2737AB8 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 08:40:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rhurlin@gwdg.de) Received: from amailer.gwdg.de (amailer.gwdg.de [134.76.10.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E89C8FC08 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 08:40:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from p5dc3f824.dip.t-dialin.net ([93.195.248.36] helo=krabat.raven.hur) by mailer.gwdg.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ThFxM-0003FA-CE; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 09:40:20 +0100 Message-ID: <50C2FCF3.4040207@gwdg.de> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 09:40:19 +0100 From: Rainer Hurling User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: AN Subject: Re: problem with VLC and hardware acceleration References: <201212072156.qB7Lu5Hm047689@triton8.kn-bremen.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated: Id:rhurlin X-Spam-Level: - X-Virus-Scanned: (clean) by exiscan+sophie Cc: Juergen Lock , multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:40:28 -0000 On 07.12.2012 23:57 (UTC+1), AN wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Dec 2012, Juergen Lock wrote: >> >> You can test the clang theory by building for example the libva port >> with gcc, i.e. put >> >> USE_GCC= any >> >> in it's port Makefile. And if that doesn't help try building >> the libva-vdpau-driver or libvdpau ports with gcc too. >> >> And don't forget to report what you find of course... :) >> >> HTH, >> Juergen >> > > Hi Juergen: > > Well I got a little bit further, but still no hardware acceleration. I > had to install libva-vdpau-driver, for some reason it was not installed. > Shouldn't it have been installed by one of the other ports? Maybe I am > missing some other port that I need? So now I have: > > # vainfo > libva info: VA-API version 0.33.0 > libva info: va_getDriverName() returns 0 > libva info: Trying to open /usr/local/lib/va/nvidia_drv_video.so > libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_0_33 > libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0 > vainfo: VA-API version: 0.33 (libva 1.1.0) > vainfo: Driver version: Splitted-Desktop Systems VDPAU backend for > VA-API - 0.7.4 > vainfo: Supported profile and entrypoints > VAProfileMPEG2Simple : VAEntrypointVLD > VAProfileMPEG2Main : VAEntrypointVLD > VAProfileMPEG4Simple : VAEntrypointVLD > VAProfileMPEG4AdvancedSimple : VAEntrypointVLD > VAProfileH264Main : VAEntrypointVLD > VAProfileH264High : VAEntrypointVLD > VAProfileVC1Simple : VAEntrypointVLD > VAProfileVC1Main : VAEntrypointVLD > VAProfileVC1Advanced : VAEntrypointVLD > > > But when I run vlc I do not see hardware acceleration. > [0x803c2a078] main input debug: looking for a subtitle file in /root/Music/ > [0x80e06c458] main decoder debug: looking for decoder module: 28 candidates > [0x80e06c458] main decoder debug: using decoder module "faad" > [0x80e06c458] main decoder debug: TIMER module_need() : 1.959 ms - Total > 1.959 ms / 1 intvls (Avg 1.959 ms) > [0x80e06cc58] main decoder debug: looking for decoder module: 28 candidates > [0x80e06cc58] avcodec decoder debug: libavcodec initialized (interface > 0x363b64) > [0x80e06cc58] avcodec decoder debug: trying to use direct rendering > [0x80e06cc58] avcodec decoder debug: allowing 1 thread(s) for decoding > [0x80e06cc58] avcodec decoder debug: ffmpeg codec (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC > (part 10)) started > [0x80e06cc58] main decoder debug: using decoder module "avcodec" > [0x80e06cc58] main decoder debug: TIMER module_need() : 7.807 ms - Total > 7.807 ms / 1 intvls (Avg 7.807 ms) > > > I recompiled > ffmpeg1-1.0.1 > libva > libva-vdpau-driver > with GCC, but it still doesn't work. Giving up for now. Has anyone got > it working with world and ports compiled with clang? Yes, my complete system (10.0-CURRENT amd64) and multimedia ports are built with clang and hardware decoding seems to work: #vlc filename.mp4 [..snip..] [0x5346c058] avcodec decoder warning: threaded frame decoding is not compatible with ffmpeg-hw, disabled libva info: VA-API version 0.33.0 libva info: va_getDriverName() returns 0 libva info: Trying to open /usr/local/lib/va/nvidia_drv_video.so [0x5346c858] faad decoder warning: decoded zero sample libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_0_33 libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0 [0x5346c058] avcodec decoder: Using VA API version 0.33 for hardware decoding. [..snip..] Did you reinstall vlc after rebuilt of libva and libva-vdpau-driver with option VAAPI set? Hope this helps, Rainer From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 8 17:33:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D46CE4B for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 17:33:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0528FC17 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 17:33:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ThOHJ-0001wt-Si for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 09:33:29 -0800 Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 09:33:29 -0800 (PST) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1354988009870-5767651.post@n5.nabble.com> Subject: digital bitperfect stream with snd_uaudio and offsite DAC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 17:33:30 -0000 am I correct in my reasoning, that by setting- dev.pcm.0.play.vchans=0 dev.pcm.0.bitperfect=1 and using snd_uaudio I could practically offload "sound mixing" (and making) from operating system? Of course there would be USB audio class DAC device connected based on Tenor TE7022L UAC1. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/digital-bitperfect-stream-with-snd-uaudio-and-offsite-DAC-tp5767651.html Sent from the freebsd-multimedia mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 8 19:55:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9295168A; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 19:55:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vermaden@interia.pl) Received: from smtpo.poczta.interia.pl (smtpo.poczta.interia.pl [217.74.65.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDF48FC14; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 19:55:50 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 20:33:52 +0100 From: vermaden Subject: Re: kern/148741: [sound] Headphones are deaf (do not work) on Lenovo ThinkPad X300 To: Alexander Motin X-Mailer: interia.pl/pf09 In-Reply-To: <50B7C674.5050305@FreeBSD.org> References: <201211261511.qAQFBYM6080933@freefall.freebsd.org> <50B45C7F.9080502@rawbw.com> <20121127073752.GF94814@jd.benders.se> <50B4EE7C.6050900@FreeBSD.org> <50B7C674.5050305@FreeBSD.org> X-Originating-IP: 46.169.85.235 Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=interia.pl; s=biztos; t=1354995232; bh=YVMsEJSVGFpcSYBF+nCDSrYimAjFuF5MzF30A5ERRGY=; h=Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:References: X-Originating-IP:Message-Id:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Z8JOY8E9lF1hZUFL0iqQ3nS2kLCsvRw6xDzsMT+7SdyBVpykH4knf2Xbh+y116moe W1gwCTUxTdpmzg2rJ/kw5JzymKy9oPVuLPVZNnxIWQHZD5IAWDAC1E4FbiNcFU6fZ/ BZujeekHafI6lLEXrRzuoBCgONoVJddV6iwVtm+U= Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:55:51 -0000 "Alexander Motin" pisze: > On 27.11.2012 18:46, Alexander Motin wrote: > > On 27.11.2012 09:37, Joel Dahl wrote: > >> On 26-11-2012 22:23, Yuri wrote: > >>> On 11/26/2012 21:59, vermaden wrote:mav@FreeBSD.org: > >>>>> Synopsis: [sound] Headphones are deaf (do not work) on Lenovo > >>>>> ThinkPad X300 > >>>>> > >>>>> State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > >>>>> State-Changed-By: mav > >>>>> State-Changed-When: Mon Nov 26 15:09:31 UTC 2012 > >>>>> State-Changed-Why: > >>>>> Proposed hints looks like overkill, but as far as it works, that is > >>>>> OK. > >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=148741 > >>>> Closing this PR is OK under one of these conditions: > >>>> > >>>> - LINK to that X300 specifical configuration/hack PR should be > >>>> within FreeBSD Handbook. > >>>> - Information for X300 specific configuration should be directly > >>>> in the FreeBSD Handbook. > >>> > >>> Or there should be the quirks-like mechanism in hda driver incorporating > >>> these hints on the device by device level. > >> > >> We had this in the hda driver before mav rewrote it. The rewrite was a > >> definite improvement in most cases and it almost always works without > >> user > >> intervention now, but I still think we need some kind of quirks > >> functionality. > >> I don't buy the "hardware is obsolete in 6 months" argument. I have > >> several > >> 3+ years old laptops at home. All working great. Asking users to play > >> around > >> with device.hints just to get sound working (it's 2012 after all, not > >> 1992...) > >> isn't all that user-friendly. If someone manages to figure out the > >> correct configuration for a specific laptop, we should make sure we > >> pick it up > >> and include it in the driver. This will save the next user with the same > >> hardware at least a few gray hairs... > > > > I haven't removed support for model-specific hacks, even moved them into > > separate file to make easier to handle them. If there is so much > > interest to this specific model, I don't mind to add it. But first we > > have to clean up the problem. Provided hints look more like inconsistent > > combination of hints from different systems. So at first we should find > > out which of these lines are really useful and why. Vermaden, could you > > do some binary search and upload somewhere verbose dmesg output for > > better understanding of the situation. > > Vermaden, could you please test this patch and send me the new verbose > dmesg: http://people.freebsd.org/~mav/X300.patch > > It was made for 10-CURRENT, but should apply to 8/9-STABLE. > > -- > Alexander Motin Sorry for the late response, but it works beautifully ;) Regards, vermaden