From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 00:37:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734B7106564A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 00:37:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291348FC14 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 00:37:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 38FA95C22 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:51:28 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F77A360.9080601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:37:52 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 00:37:54 -0000 On 04/01/12 09:52, Fbsd8 wrote: > Just purchased an account on the northern Ohio Time Warner cable system. > Having problem connecting to their service. Seems their dhcp server > has an ip address of 10.2.0.1 which is not public routable. I know my > Freebsd 8.2 box functions because it worked fine under att service > which I just left for Time Warner service. MY xp laptop works fine > with time warner. I can see that during the connection hand shake they > first issue ip addresses 192.168.x.x then end up with real public > routable ip address for dns and my ip address. Just the dhcp ip is > 10.2.0.1. XP seems to handle this connection hand shake ok. > > Does any one have any suggestions on how to get Freebsd 8.2 working > under TW? Have you got a firewall or something else blocking dhcp from communicating? What does ifconfig say? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 00:52:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4561065672 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 00:52:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2DD8FC19 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 00:52:27 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=JolXm8FDXL63PftwPDgsR0IgWOikygv3Ye+4bkYVvXE=; b=YnyClDQ+5RI2dsh45oof3ShprxS+PKrGFIojEjyMcOY0ElWN9pGBHo82Lrk7j+MVtZvCLHSCMhoTrnaZIAT1D2z5R4k4gKK1qe0Ian7/6JW4p3kmngt3LG9c67XT1UeShgq+YSqBdC/zueBLFenqQtz8IfrEH0XEiTUvim3bcPc= Received: from [173.88.213.65] ([173.88.213.65]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:52:27 -0700 Message-ID: <4F77A6CA.50406@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 20:52:26 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Da Rock References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F77A360.9080601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4F77A360.9080601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Apr 2012 00:52:28.0006 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5EE5860:01CD0FA1] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 00:52:28 -0000 Da Rock wrote: > On 04/01/12 09:52, Fbsd8 wrote: >> Just purchased an account on the northern Ohio Time Warner cable system. >> Having problem connecting to their service. Seems their dhcp server >> has an ip address of 10.2.0.1 which is not public routable. I know my >> Freebsd 8.2 box functions because it worked fine under att service >> which I just left for Time Warner service. MY xp laptop works fine >> with time warner. I can see that during the connection hand shake they >> first issue ip addresses 192.168.x.x then end up with real public >> routable ip address for dns and my ip address. Just the dhcp ip is >> 10.2.0.1. XP seems to handle this connection hand shake ok. >> >> Does any one have any suggestions on how to get Freebsd 8.2 working >> under TW? > > Have you got a firewall or something else blocking dhcp from > communicating? What does ifconfig say? > > No firewall running and NIC status is "no carrier" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 01:01:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E0B106566B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 01:01:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A45C8FC0A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 01:01:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7871B5C22 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 11:15:14 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F77A8F2.9020202@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 11:01:38 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F77A360.9080601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F77A6CA.50406@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4F77A6CA.50406@a1poweruser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 01:01:42 -0000 On 04/01/12 10:52, Fbsd8 wrote: > Da Rock wrote: >> On 04/01/12 09:52, Fbsd8 wrote: >>> Just purchased an account on the northern Ohio Time Warner cable >>> system. >>> Having problem connecting to their service. Seems their dhcp server >>> has an ip address of 10.2.0.1 which is not public routable. I know >>> my Freebsd 8.2 box functions because it worked fine under att >>> service which I just left for Time Warner service. MY xp laptop >>> works fine with time warner. I can see that during the connection >>> hand shake they first issue ip addresses 192.168.x.x then end up >>> with real public routable ip address for dns and my ip address. Just >>> the dhcp ip is 10.2.0.1. XP seems to handle this connection hand >>> shake ok. >>> >>> Does any one have any suggestions on how to get Freebsd 8.2 working >>> under TW? >> >> Have you got a firewall or something else blocking dhcp from >> communicating? What does ifconfig say? >> >> > No firewall running and NIC status is "no carrier" Actually I asked what the output of ifconfig was, but it looks like your cable is not connected (or wifi- hard to tell without output. It preempts many questions). Try `ifconfig up`, check the cable, etc. FreeBSD should be responding just like Winblows here, but your network isn't connected for whatever reason that will probably be clearer when we know what ifconfig looks like. Hence dhcp will not work in these circumstances, at least until you connect your network... :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 01:30:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB0B106566B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 01:30:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9618F8FC1A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 01:30:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9D41703E; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:22:07 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4F77ADBE.6010506@hdk5.net> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:22:06 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Da Rock References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F77A360.9080601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F77A6CA.50406@a1poweruser.com> <4F77A8F2.9020202@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4F77A8F2.9020202@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 01:30:19 -0000 Da Rock wrote: > On 04/01/12 10:52, Fbsd8 wrote: >> Da Rock wrote: >>> On 04/01/12 09:52, Fbsd8 wrote: >>>> Just purchased an account on the northern Ohio Time Warner cable >>>> system. >>>> Having problem connecting to their service. Seems their dhcp server >>>> has an ip address of 10.2.0.1 which is not public routable. I know >>>> my Freebsd 8.2 box functions because it worked fine under att >>>> service which I just left for Time Warner service. MY xp laptop >>>> works fine with time warner. I can see that during the connection >>>> hand shake they first issue ip addresses 192.168.x.x then end up >>>> with real public routable ip address for dns and my ip address. Just >>>> the dhcp ip is 10.2.0.1. XP seems to handle this connection hand >>>> shake ok. >>>> >>>> Does any one have any suggestions on how to get Freebsd 8.2 working >>>> under TW? >>> >>> Have you got a firewall or something else blocking dhcp from >>> communicating? What does ifconfig say? >>> >>> >> No firewall running and NIC status is "no carrier" > > Actually I asked what the output of ifconfig was, but it looks like your > cable is not connected (or wifi- hard to tell without output. It > preempts many questions). > > Try `ifconfig up`, check the cable, etc. FreeBSD should be > responding just like Winblows here, but your network isn't connected for > whatever reason that will probably be clearer when we know what ifconfig > looks like. Hence dhcp will not work in these circumstances, at least > until you connect your network... :) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Aloha, Make sure your connection to Road Runner or TW is set for DHCP. And make sure you can ping your NIC card and like Da Rock says see whats up with iconfig. If there is a switch on the line make sure it is plugged in. I have one customer I work for that lost his signal from TW Roadrunner and they had to come out to replace some link to a failed splitter on the house connection. Here in Hawaii we have a bad corrosion problem from the salt air. TW also needs the electric service to work here as well. Did they come to your location and run a test to their equipment? My neighbor had a recent cable outage of an existing cable on our block that was too low and a moving van hit it. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 01:57:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC661065672 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 01:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4668FC0C for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 01:57:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D1BFA5C22 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 12:10:36 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F77B5EC.5020002@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 11:57:00 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F77A360.9080601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F77A6CA.50406@a1poweruser.com> <4F77A8F2.9020202@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F77ADBE.6010506@hdk5.net> In-Reply-To: <4F77ADBE.6010506@hdk5.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 01:57:03 -0000 On 04/01/12 11:22, Al Plant wrote: > Da Rock wrote: >> On 04/01/12 10:52, Fbsd8 wrote: >>> Da Rock wrote: >>>> On 04/01/12 09:52, Fbsd8 wrote: >>>>> Just purchased an account on the northern Ohio Time Warner cable >>>>> system. >>>>> Having problem connecting to their service. Seems their dhcp >>>>> server has an ip address of 10.2.0.1 which is not public routable. >>>>> I know my Freebsd 8.2 box functions because it worked fine under >>>>> att service which I just left for Time Warner service. MY xp >>>>> laptop works fine with time warner. I can see that during the >>>>> connection hand shake they first issue ip addresses 192.168.x.x >>>>> then end up with real public routable ip address for dns and my ip >>>>> address. Just the dhcp ip is 10.2.0.1. XP seems to handle this >>>>> connection hand shake ok. >>>>> >>>>> Does any one have any suggestions on how to get Freebsd 8.2 >>>>> working under TW? >>>> >>>> Have you got a firewall or something else blocking dhcp from >>>> communicating? What does ifconfig say? >>>> >>>> >>> No firewall running and NIC status is "no carrier" >> >> Actually I asked what the output of ifconfig was, but it looks like >> your cable is not connected (or wifi- hard to tell without output. It >> preempts many questions). >> >> Try `ifconfig up`, check the cable, etc. FreeBSD should be >> responding just like Winblows here, but your network isn't connected >> for whatever reason that will probably be clearer when we know what >> ifconfig looks like. Hence dhcp will not work in these circumstances, >> at least until you connect your network... :) >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > Aloha, > > Make sure your connection to Road Runner or TW is set for DHCP. And > make sure you can ping your NIC card and like Da Rock says see whats > up with iconfig. If there is a switch on the line make sure it is > plugged in. I have one customer I work for that lost his signal from > TW Roadrunner and they had to come out to replace some link to a > failed splitter on the house connection. Here in Hawaii we have a bad > corrosion problem from the salt air. TW also needs the electric > service to work here as well. > > Did they come to your location and run a test to their equipment? My > neighbor had a recent cable outage of an existing cable on our block > that was too low and a moving van hit it. Apparently the Windows system works, so I'd assume all that side is ok- just FBSD box is the issue. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 02:35:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A814106566B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 02:35:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9548FC15 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 02:35:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q310bOnF007813; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:37:27 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 07:37:23 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201204010737.24188.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 02:35:18 -0000 Hi, On Sunday 01 April 2012 06:52:48 Fbsd8 wrote: > Just purchased an account on the northern Ohio Time Warner cable system. > Having problem connecting to their service. Seems their dhcp server has > an ip address of 10.2.0.1 which is not public routable. I know my > Freebsd 8.2 box functions because it worked fine under att service which > I just left for Time Warner service. MY xp laptop works fine with time > warner. I can see that during the connection hand shake they first issue > ip addresses 192.168.x.x then end up with real public routable ip > address for dns and my ip address. Just the dhcp ip is 10.2.0.1. XP > seems to handle this connection hand shake ok. this seems to work like my ISP. I have at the end a private IP address in the range 10.x.y.z. They do the translation when needed for me. Of course, my machine is not accessible from outside. What confuses me is that your XP machine gets a 192.168 address between. How can it access the DHCP then? Can you try to limit the address range to 10.x.y.z during the negotiation phase? How do you connect to the cable? Is there some kind of a 'modem'? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 03:19:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA42B1065670 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 03:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jangkawijaya@students.itb.ac.id) Received: from mx4.ITB.ac.id (mx4.itb.ac.id [167.205.1.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372EB8FC15 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 03:19:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from av1.itb.ac.id (av1.itb.ac.id [167.205.1.71]) by mx4.ITB.ac.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880D8415C4 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:19:07 +0700 (WIT) Virus-Scanned: antivirus1-ITB-slb Received: from mx4.ITB.ac.id ([167.205.1.69]) by av1.itb.ac.id (av1.itb.ac.id [167.205.1.73]) (amavisd-new, port 10004) with ESMTP id vyzaFnf8eWLM for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:19:02 +0700 (WIT) Received: from students.itb.ac.id (students.itb.ac.id [167.205.1.72]) by mx4.ITB.ac.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id B258C415C3 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:19:06 +0700 (WIT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by students.itb.ac.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60D66514C4D for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:19:00 +0700 (WIT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at students.itb.ac.id Received: from students.itb.ac.id ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (students.itb.ac.id [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8e4UJn1VKOjq for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:18:57 +0700 (WIT) Received: from students.itb.ac.id (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by students.itb.ac.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60196514B1A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:18:57 +0700 (WIT) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:18:54 +0700 (WIT) From: jangkawijaya@students.itb.ac.id To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1059951114.8276.1333250334320.JavaMail.root@students.itb.ac.id> In-Reply-To: <1752349433.8270.1333250069845.JavaMail.root@students.itb.ac.id> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [167.205.1.72] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.7_GA_2473.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - SAF3 (Win)/6.0.7_GA_2473.RHEL5_64) Cc: Subject: problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 03:19:05 -0000 I've got the problem like this Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: zone 79.205.167.in-addr.arpa/IN: loading from master file /etc/namedb/master/db.johannesang failed: extra input text Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: zone 79.205.167.in-addr.arpa/IN: not loaded due to errors. Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: /etc/namedb/master/localhost-reverse.db:2: no current owner name Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: zone 0.ip6.arpa/IN: loading from master file /etc/namedb/master/localhost-reverse.db failed: no owner Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: zone 0.ip6.arpa/IN: not loaded due to errors. Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: zone 8.B.D.0.1.0.0.2.IP6.ARPA/IN: zone serial (0) unchanged. zone may fail to transfer to slaves. Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: dns_rdata_fromtext: /etc/namedb/master/db.domain:5: near '3h': extra input text Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: zone johannesang.com/IN: loading from master file /etc/namedb/master/db.domain failed: extra input text Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: zone johannesang.com/IN: not loaded due to errors " here is localhost-reverse.db file $FreeBSD: src/etc/namedb/master/localhost-reverse.db,v 1.1.14.1 2010/02/10 00:2 $TTL 3h @ SOA localhost. nobody.localhost. 42 1d 12h 1w 3h Serial, Refresh, Retry, Expire, Neg. cache TTL NS localhost. 1.0.0 PTR localhost. 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0 PTR localhost. here is my db.domain file $TTL 3600 johannesang.com. IN SOA host.johannesang.com. root.johannesang.com. ( 2012040100 42 1d 12h 1w 3h Serial, Refresh, Retry, Expire, Neg. cache TTL ;DNS Servers johannesang.com. IN NS host.johannesang.com. ;Machine Names host.johannesang.com. IN A 167.205.79.105 ;Aliases www IN CNAME host.johannesang.com. here is my db.johannesang file $TTL 3600 79.205.167.in-addr.arpa. IN SOA host.johannesang.com. root.johannesang.com. 2012040100 42 1d 12h 1w 3h Serial, Refresh, Retry, Expire, Neg. cache TTL DNS Servers 79.205.167.in-addr.arpa. IN NS host.johannesang.com. ;Machine IPs 105 IN PTR host.johannesang.com. 105 IN PTR www.johannesang.com. and here is my named.conf key "rndc-key" { algorithm hmac-md5; secret "+W8n6komoiD9BRAfbbT//QsntsFScEs6gUXArJuH4Nk="; }; zone "johannesang.com" { type master; file "/etc/namedb/master/db.domain"; allow-transfer { localhost; }; allow-update { key rndc-key; }; }; zone "79.205.167.in-addr.arpa" { type master; file "/etc/namedb/master/db.johannesang"; allow-transfer { localhost; }; allow-update { key rndc-key; }; }; I need your help thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 03:22:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166BC1065670 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 03:22:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA578FC0C for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 03:21:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q313LtTd014650; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:21:58 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:21:54 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F77ADBE.6010506@hdk5.net> <4F77B5EC.5020002@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4F77B5EC.5020002@herveybayaustralia.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201204011021.55092.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: Da Rock Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 03:22:00 -0000 Hi, On Sunday 01 April 2012 08:57:00 Da Rock wrote: > > > > Did they come to your location and run a test to their equipment? My > > neighbor had a recent cable outage of an existing cable on our block > > that was too low and a moving van hit it. > > Apparently the Windows system works, so I'd assume all that side is ok- > just FBSD box is the issue. so, there is some difference. The questions are there to find out what the difference might be. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 03:22:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81001065674 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 03:22:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jangkawijaya@students.itb.ac.id) Received: from mx4.ITB.ac.id (unknown [IPv6:2001:d30:3:5:230:48ff:febe:a4fa]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22E18FC17 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 03:22:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from av1.itb.ac.id (av1.itb.ac.id [167.205.1.71]) by mx4.ITB.ac.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07187415DF for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:22:10 +0700 (WIT) Virus-Scanned: antivirus1-ITB-slb Received: from mx4.ITB.ac.id ([167.205.1.69]) by av1.itb.ac.id (av1.itb.ac.id [167.205.1.73]) (amavisd-new, port 10004) with ESMTP id v_3kzH8xjF6S for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:22:05 +0700 (WIT) Received: from students.itb.ac.id (students.itb.ac.id [167.205.1.72]) by mx4.ITB.ac.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E3E415DD for ; 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Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:06:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.44.201 with HTTP; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:06:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201204011021.55092.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F77ADBE.6010506@hdk5.net> <4F77B5EC.5020002@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <201204011021.55092.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 00:06:23 -0400 Message-ID: From: Outback Dingo To: Erich Dollansky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Da Rock Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 04:06:25 -0000 On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Sunday 01 April 2012 08:57:00 Da Rock wrote: >> > >> > Did they come to your location and run a test to their equipment? My >> > neighbor had a recent cable outage of an existing cable on our block >> > that was too low =A0and a moving van hit it. >> >> Apparently the Windows system works, so I'd assume all that side is ok- >> just FBSD box is the issue. > > so, there is some difference. The questions are there to find out what th= e difference might be. > > Erich to me it sounds like a link negotiation problem between the network interfaces, and auto-sensing not being able to sync you might need to set the interface on the bsd box manually to see if you can even establish link, once link is up dhcp should function > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 04:53:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695E0106564A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 04:53:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56D18FC08 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 04:53:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 57CCC5C22 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 15:07:32 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F77DF64.5090000@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:53:56 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1059951114.8276.1333250334320.JavaMail.root@students.itb.ac.id> In-Reply-To: <1059951114.8276.1333250334320.JavaMail.root@students.itb.ac.id> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 04:53:59 -0000 On 04/01/12 13:18, jangkawijaya@students.itb.ac.id wrote: > I've got the problem like this > > Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: zone 79.205.167.in-addr.arpa/IN: loading from master file /etc/namedb/master/db.johannesang failed: extra input text > Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: zone 79.205.167.in-addr.arpa/IN: not loaded due to errors. > Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: /etc/namedb/master/localhost-reverse.db:2: no current owner name > Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: zone 0.ip6.arpa/IN: loading from master file /etc/namedb/master/localhost-reverse.db failed: no owner > Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: zone 0.ip6.arpa/IN: not loaded due to errors. > Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: zone 8.B.D.0.1.0.0.2.IP6.ARPA/IN: zone serial (0) unchanged. zone may fail to transfer to slaves. > Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: dns_rdata_fromtext: /etc/namedb/master/db.domain:5: near '3h': extra input text > Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: zone johannesang.com/IN: loading from master file /etc/namedb/master/db.domain failed: extra input text > Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: zone johannesang.com/IN: not loaded due to errors > > " here is localhost-reverse.db file > > > $FreeBSD: src/etc/namedb/master/localhost-reverse.db,v 1.1.14.1 2010/02/10 00:2 > > $TTL 3h > @ SOA localhost. nobody.localhost. 42 1d 12h 1w 3h > Serial, Refresh, Retry, Expire, Neg. cache TTL > > NS localhost. > > 1.0.0 PTR localhost. > > 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0 PTR localhost. > > > here is my db.domain file > > $TTL 3600 > > johannesang.com. IN SOA host.johannesang.com. root.johannesang.com. ( > > 2012040100 42 1d 12h 1w 3h > Serial, Refresh, Retry, Expire, Neg. cache TTL > > > ;DNS Servers > johannesang.com. IN NS host.johannesang.com. > > ;Machine Names > host.johannesang.com. IN A 167.205.79.105 > > ;Aliases > www IN CNAME host.johannesang.com. > > here is my db.johannesang file > $TTL 3600 > > 79.205.167.in-addr.arpa. IN SOA host.johannesang.com. root.johannesang.com. > > 2012040100 42 1d 12h 1w 3h > Serial, Refresh, Retry, Expire, Neg. cache TTL > > > DNS Servers Is this a typo or actually in the file? > 79.205.167.in-addr.arpa. IN NS host.johannesang.com. > > ;Machine IPs > 105 IN PTR host.johannesang.com. > 105 IN PTR www.johannesang.com. > > and here is my named.conf > > key "rndc-key" { > algorithm hmac-md5; > secret "+W8n6komoiD9BRAfbbT//QsntsFScEs6gUXArJuH4Nk="; > }; > > > > zone "johannesang.com" { > type master; > file "/etc/namedb/master/db.domain"; > allow-transfer { localhost; }; > allow-update { key rndc-key; }; > }; > > > > zone "79.205.167.in-addr.arpa" { > type master; > file "/etc/namedb/master/db.johannesang"; > allow-transfer { localhost; }; > allow-update { key rndc-key; }; > > }; > > I need your help thanks Did you update your serials? I'd go back and check your zone files (for starters), and reread the bind admin book on their format. HTH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 04:59:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC5F106564A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 04:59:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7418FC08 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 04:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 10619189; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:59:06 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.232] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 10619187; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:58:48 -0400 Message-ID: <4F77D278.5050807@radel.com> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:58:48 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jangkawijaya@students.itb.ac.id References: <1059951114.8276.1333250334320.JavaMail.root@students.itb.ac.id> In-Reply-To: <1059951114.8276.1333250334320.JavaMail.root@students.itb.ac.id> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020700010800030102020808" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 04:59:07 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020700010800030102020808 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The format of named files isn't quite as free-form as you apparently=20 think. :-) Compare one of mine: $TTL 1H @ IN SOA ns3.radel.com. jon.radel.com. ( 2010100400 ; serial 1H ; refresh 15M ; retry 2W ; expiry 30M ) ; minimum IN NS ns.radel.com. IN NS ns2.radel.com. IN NS ns3.radel.com. IN NS ns4.radel.com. with yours: > > $TTL 3600 OK > > johannesang.com. IN SOA host.johannesang.com. root.johannesang.com. = ( OK; "@" in mine is shorthand for "the domain which this zone file=20 defines", but giving the domain explicitly works fine. > > 2012040100 42 1d 12h 1w 3h Starts as OK syntax, but a 42 second refresh with 1 day retry strikes me = as dubious at best and then you have an extra value on the end.=20 Actually, I suspect that 42 is actually your extra value. "2012040100"=20 is the serial number, you know. > Serial, Refresh, Retry, Expire, Neg. cache TTL This line is extraneous garbage, as you've not commented it out; that's=20 what the semi-colons do in my example. I suspect that's why one error=20 message moans about an error in the vicinity of the "3h", as that's an=20 extra value followed by garbage. Missing close parenthesis. > > > ;DNS Servers > johannesang.com. IN NS host.johannesang.com. Looks fine. > > ;Machine Names > host.johannesang.com. IN A 167.205.79.105 Looks fine > > ;Aliases > www IN CNAME host.johannesang.com. Looks fine > > here is my db.johannesang file > $TTL 3600 > > 79.205.167.in-addr.arpa. IN SOA host.johannesang.com. root.johannesan= g.com. > > 2012040100 42 1d 12h 1w 3h missing open and close parenthesis, extra value > Serial, Refresh, Retry, Expire, Neg. cache TTL extraneous garbage Etc. You're pretty close and it should work fine after you clean up=20 your syntax a bit. --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms020700010800030102020808-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 05:02:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012D710667DA for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 05:02:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5AFE8FC16 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 05:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CDA175C22 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 15:15:50 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F77E156.2050901@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 15:02:14 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F77ADBE.6010506@hdk5.net> <4F77B5EC.5020002@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <201204011021.55092.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 05:02:17 -0000 On 04/01/12 14:06, Outback Dingo wrote: > On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Erich Dollansky > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Sunday 01 April 2012 08:57:00 Da Rock wrote: >>>> Did they come to your location and run a test to their equipment? My >>>> neighbor had a recent cable outage of an existing cable on our block >>>> that was too low and a moving van hit it. >>> Apparently the Windows system works, so I'd assume all that side is ok- >>> just FBSD box is the issue. >> so, there is some difference. The questions are there to find out what the difference might be. >> >> Erich > to me it sounds like a link negotiation problem between the network > interfaces, and auto-sensing not being able to sync > you might need to set the interface on the bsd box manually to see if > you can even establish link, once link is up dhcp should function Exactly. But right now we can only speculate the connection type without ifconfig- it may provide some clues as to what it is supposed to be connecting to, and what settings may actually help. rc settings may enlighten further as well. > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 06:02:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66581065673 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:02:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jangkawijaya@students.itb.ac.id) Received: from mx4.ITB.ac.id (mx4.itb.ac.id [167.205.1.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621848FC1F for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:02:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from av1.itb.ac.id (av1.itb.ac.id [167.205.1.71]) by mx4.ITB.ac.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5864089C for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:02:06 +0700 (WIT) Virus-Scanned: antivirus1-ITB-slb Received: from mx4.ITB.ac.id ([167.205.1.69]) by av1.itb.ac.id (av1.itb.ac.id [167.205.1.73]) (amavisd-new, port 10004) with ESMTP id WRIqQ06UoULb for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:01:51 +0700 (WIT) Received: from students.itb.ac.id (students.itb.ac.id [167.205.1.72]) by mx4.ITB.ac.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9FD40895 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:01:56 +0700 (WIT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by students.itb.ac.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF3A6514C75 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:01:49 +0700 (WIT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at students.itb.ac.id Received: from students.itb.ac.id ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (students.itb.ac.id [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PpkM093z3Soy for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:01:45 +0700 (WIT) Received: from students.itb.ac.id (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by students.itb.ac.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63E86514B2A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:01:38 +0700 (WIT) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:01:31 +0700 (WIT) From: jangkawijaya@students.itb.ac.id To: questions Message-ID: <996382096.8442.1333260091237.JavaMail.root@students.itb.ac.id> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [167.205.1.72] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.7_GA_2473.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - SAF3 (Win)/6.0.7_GA_2473.RHEL5_64) Cc: Subject: log error.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 06:02:02 -0000 Apr 1 19:33:10 johannesang named[18782]: starting BIND 9.7.4-P1 -t /var/named -u bind Apr 1 19:33:10 johannesang named[18782]: built with '--localstatedir=/var' '--disable-linux-caps' '--disable-symtable' '--with-randomdev=/dev/random' '--with-openssl=/usr/local' '--with-libxml2=/usr/local' '--without-idn' '--enable-ipv6' '--enable-threads' '--sysconfdir=/etc/namedb' '--prefix=/usr' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--infodir=/usr/share/info/' '--build=i386-portbld-freebsd7.3' 'build_alias=i386-portbld-freebsd7.3' 'CC=cc' 'CFLAGS=-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe' 'LDFLAGS= -rpath=/usr/local/lib' 'CPPFLAGS=' 'CPP=cpp' 'CXX=c++' 'CXXFLAGS=-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe' Apr 1 19:33:10 johannesang named[18782]: Using 101 tasks for zone loading Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: max open files (3520) is smaller than max sockets (4096) Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: command channel listening on 127.0.0.1#953 Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: command channel listening on ::1#953 Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone 127.in-addr.arpa/IN: NS 'johannesang.com.127.in-addr.arpa' has no address records (A or AAAA) Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone 127.in-addr.arpa/IN: not loaded due to errors. Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone 79.205.167.in-addr.arpa/IN: has no NS records Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone 79.205.167.in-addr.arpa/IN: not loaded due to errors. Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone johannesang.com/IN: NS 'host.johannesang.com' has no address records (A or AAAA) Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone johannesang.com/IN: not loaded due to errors. Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: /etc/namedb/master/localhost-forward.db:5: unknown RR type 'Serial,' Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone localhost/IN: loading from master file /etc/namedb/master/localhost-forward.db failed: unknown class/type Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone localhost/IN: not loaded due to errors. Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: running can somene help me ?? can some help me to selve this thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 07:20:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544E7106566B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 07:20:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E935F8FC08 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 07:20:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q317LLST092922; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 02:21:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 02:21:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201204010721.q317LLST092922@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: jangkawijaya@students.itb.ac.id, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <996382096.8442.1333260091237.JavaMail.root@students.itb.ac.id> Cc: Subject: Re: log error.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 07:20:40 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 1 01:46:26 2012 > Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:01:31 +0700 (WIT) > From: jangkawijaya@students.itb.ac.id > To: questions > Cc: > Subject: log error.. > [ snip numerous syslog messages indicating incorrect zone file syntax ] > can somene help me ?? > > can some help me to selve this thanks Since you seen incapable of reading and following the directions for creating properly formatted BIND zone files, even after having been directed to those resoures after your prior post, the best advice is for you to either: 1) Hire a knowledgable professional to set it up for you. -or- 2) Contract with a knowledgable operator to host your zones on *their* servers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 08:35:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7244A106566C for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 08:35:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B12B8FC14 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 08:35:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 237DE5C22 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 18:48:35 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F781333.3060704@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 18:34:59 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <996382096.8442.1333260091237.JavaMail.root@students.itb.ac.id> In-Reply-To: <996382096.8442.1333260091237.JavaMail.root@students.itb.ac.id> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: log error.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:35:09 -0000 On 04/01/12 16:01, jangkawijaya@students.itb.ac.id wrote: > Apr 1 19:33:10 johannesang named[18782]: starting BIND 9.7.4-P1 -t /var/named -u bind > Apr 1 19:33:10 johannesang named[18782]: built with '--localstatedir=/var' '--disable-linux-caps' '--disable-symtable' '--with-randomdev=/dev/random' '--with-openssl=/usr/local' '--with-libxml2=/usr/local' '--without-idn' '--enable-ipv6' '--enable-threads' '--sysconfdir=/etc/namedb' '--prefix=/usr' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--infodir=/usr/share/info/' '--build=i386-portbld-freebsd7.3' 'build_alias=i386-portbld-freebsd7.3' 'CC=cc' 'CFLAGS=-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe' 'LDFLAGS= -rpath=/usr/local/lib' 'CPPFLAGS=' 'CPP=cpp' 'CXX=c++' 'CXXFLAGS=-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe' > Apr 1 19:33:10 johannesang named[18782]: Using 101 tasks for zone loading > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: max open files (3520) is smaller than max sockets (4096) > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: command channel listening on 127.0.0.1#953 > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: command channel listening on ::1#953 > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone 127.in-addr.arpa/IN: NS 'johannesang.com.127.in-addr.arpa' has no address records (A or AAAA) > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone 127.in-addr.arpa/IN: not loaded due to errors. > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone 79.205.167.in-addr.arpa/IN: has no NS records > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone 79.205.167.in-addr.arpa/IN: not loaded due to errors. > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone johannesang.com/IN: NS 'host.johannesang.com' has no address records (A or AAAA) > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone johannesang.com/IN: not loaded due to errors. > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: /etc/namedb/master/localhost-forward.db:5: unknown RR type 'Serial,' > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone localhost/IN: loading from master file /etc/namedb/master/localhost-forward.db failed: unknown class/type > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone localhost/IN: not loaded due to errors. > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: running > > can somene help me ?? > > can some help me to selve this thanks Check your zone files and ensure they are correctly formatted. You can use named-checkzone to check if it will work or not. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 08:52:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A573106564A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 08:52:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juvix88@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qc0-f182.google.com (mail-qc0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19CB8FC0C for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 08:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qcsg15 with SMTP id g15so1301215qcs.13 for ; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 01:52:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=99aMg2obb0AiKFudND6aMUvjDV8Pm8WVxdMZulPPEgk=; b=xQp11qRgru6RoA9FfF+oHBloEAOsKRuFGL/mQlQv/kKsoF3ybR3BuiZZ7M23BGaE/4 igzopoSQ5vbAKcc/Z+lKCKoXmfK7dkzIWXTwqVvzudRBzY0mZUM5Zwcdjvzv3UbrjpBr nlESUUqjhzgEumKINOejrPi097qdkPEJ7HnBHLOsRhFGZV7PuF3Sy0oHkEoTxfZJcu1y jLRcHBHYOYy+qSs5XP2Z6bZDG3Xwe+aTrqouAqESU0/rTbVPym7XFVmJponjCV0f7iQy vtUs3AGVFQha6Q5iky6kgDBfimvPGFYXgspQfgpo0lT/Yf5R7MJprwG2gs55Mw3alCbV 3dlA== Received: by 10.229.137.20 with SMTP id u20mr1733310qct.4.1333270325038; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 01:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (ool-18ba4338.dyn.optonline.net. [24.186.67.56]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ha10sm28312938qab.14.2012.04.01.01.52.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 01 Apr 2012 01:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F781733.7020900@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 04:52:03 -0400 From: Jonathan Vomacka User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201204010721.q317LLST092922@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201204010721.q317LLST092922@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: log error.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:52:06 -0000 On 4/1/2012 3:21 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 1 01:46:26 2012 >> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:01:31 +0700 (WIT) >> From: jangkawijaya@students.itb.ac.id >> To: questions >> Cc: >> Subject: log error.. >> > > [ snip numerous syslog messages indicating incorrect zone file syntax ] > >> can somene help me ?? >> >> can some help me to selve this thanks > > Since you seen incapable of reading and following the directions for > creating properly formatted BIND zone files, even after having been > directed to those resoures after your prior post, the best advice is > for you to either: > 1) Hire a knowledgable professional to set it up for you. > -or- > 2) Contract with a knowledgable operator to host your zones on *their* > servers. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" LOL. Well said. Read docs and then ask for help, otherwise dont read docs and hire someone who knows what they are doing versus someone who doesnt care to learn. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 08:56:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B712E106566B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 08:56:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713358FC14 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 08:56:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (tor4.anonymizer.ccc.de [80.237.226.74]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C26D65AB0; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 12:47:28 +0400 (MSK) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 12:47:19 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120401084719.GA12293@external.screwed.box> References: <20120330224416.13643xk4rsfd2i5s@webmail.ime.usp.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120330224416.13643xk4rsfd2i5s@webmail.ime.usp.br> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Cc: schultz@ime.usp.br Subject: Re: FreeBSD Security in Multiuser Environments X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:56:14 -0000 Hello. 2012/03/30 22:44:16 -0300 schultz@ime.usp.br => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : > P.S.: If you want to attain desktop security, matters get even more > complicated. If anyone is interested, I can discuss what I did there > (basically virtual X servers and building ports as regular users). Sure I am interested. I myself try to run Xorg server in a chroot and its clients from a different jail(s) via tcp on lo0. Trouble still is I can't get my VT ttyvXs because of that strange 'console ownership' stuff. > Also, thanks for Capsicum, it sure is useful. Who is that? -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E26627 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 09:14:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38BD106566B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 09:14:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FC68FC08 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 09:14:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3812C1E3C6; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 11:14:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q319EhGW002045; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 11:14:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 11:14:43 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Lino Miklav Message-Id: <20120401111443.0dfa0e26.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4F775909.8090301@unitedpeople.net> References: <4F75D37C.2020203@lovetemple.net> <2E2ED820-21EA-4025-A4AA-A4CA76C01E29@mac.com> <4F775909.8090301@unitedpeople.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Printer recommendation please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 09:14:51 -0000 On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:20:41 +0200, Lino Miklav wrote: > On 31.03.2012 00:16, Peter A. Giessel wrote: > > It doesn't surprise me that Gutenprint doesn't have a setting > > specifically for the 6500 because Xerox provides one: > > Uf, I have this idea to only use LPD and filters. That should be no problem. If I read the specifications for the Xerox Phaser 6280V DN correctly, it supports both PS and PCL. Here's an example for a PCL printer filter: #!/bin/sh printf "\033&k2G" || exit 2 gs -q -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -dPARANOIDSAFER -dSAFER -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -r600x600 \ -sDEVICE=ljet4 -sOutputFile=- - && exit 0 exit 2 The "ljet4" produces PCL, it can also be used to access features like duplexer (add -dDuplex=true). It basically does the same as the apsfilter filter, except that the apsfilter one has support for "pretty printing" and direct command line printing, so % lpr foo.c or % lpr bar.png can be issued directly, no need to create a PS stream by another application. You can easily add that filter to /etc/printcap's if= setting, add rm= with the IP or hostname of the printer, prepare the spool and it should work. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 09:15:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BCBC1065746 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 09:15:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD558FC08 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 09:15:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q319FBxP031079 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:15:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q319FBxP031079 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q319FBxP031079; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4F781C97.9020205@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:15:03 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Vereshagin References: <20120330224416.13643xk4rsfd2i5s@webmail.ime.usp.br> <20120401084719.GA12293@external.screwed.box> In-Reply-To: <20120401084719.GA12293@external.screwed.box> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig510DC7E3BA031B00E7F73D0D" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, schultz@ime.usp.br Subject: Re: FreeBSD Security in Multiuser Environments X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 09:15:17 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig510DC7E3BA031B00E7F73D0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/04/2012 09:47, Peter Vereshagin wrote: >> Also, thanks for Capsicum, it sure is useful. > Who is that? Robert Watson, Jonathan Anderson and Ben Laurie are the principle 'who' behind Capsicum. Now, if you'ld asked 'What is that?' I'd've pointed you towards https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/security/capsicum/ It's a "lightweight OS capability and sandbox framework," or in other words a way of enforcing restrictions on what objects -- particularly those built from foreign data eg. javascript in web pages -- can modify or access on your local system. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enig510DC7E3BA031B00E7F73D0D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk94HJ4ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwCaACeNts2PXpbxb9cBQ4DH6i8/Hra KEEAoJDtHYMka8ajwZaoPGmq9/G69zbi =lsXH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig510DC7E3BA031B00E7F73D0D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 09:29:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274B6106564A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 09:29:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8AFF8FC1C for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 09:29:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6C83CAFD; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 11:29:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q319TNA8002097; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 11:29:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 11:29:23 +0200 From: Polytropon To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-Id: <20120401112923.47e6c8a7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4f7770b7.BkVKquuSmumStBb/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4F75D37C.2020203@lovetemple.net> <20120330232307.41e420b1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4f7770b7.BkVKquuSmumStBb/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: karel@lovetemple.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Printer recommendation please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 09:29:32 -0000 On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:01:43 -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > I personally don't trust wireless, because it's well nigh impossible > to truly secure it. In that case, one should also pay attention to secure the printer. Wait - secure the printer? What am I talking about? Firmware attacks! Yes - malware has already reached printers. As they contain all typical parts of a computer and are equipped with net- working capabilities, they can cause trouble in networks the same way as what hujacked "Windows" PCs typically do. They can be turned into networked "allies", carrying out the attackers orders within networks. Those who are interested may find some information here: Exclusive: Millions of printers open to devastating hack attack, researchers say http://redtape.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/29/9076395-exclusive-millions-of-printers-open-to-devastating-hack-attack-researchers-say ShmooCon 2011: Printers Gone Wild! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZgLX60U3sY#t=3m40s ShmooCon 2011: Printer to PWND: Leveraging Multifunction Printers During http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPhisPLwm2A Printer malware: print a malicious document, expose your whole LAN http://boingboing.net/2011/12/30/printer-malware-print-a-malic.html Print Me If You Dare Firmware Modification Attacks and the Rise of Printer Malware http://events.ccc.de/congress/2011/Fahrplan/events/4780.en.html HP firmware to 'mitigate' LaserJet vulnerability http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57347817-83/hp-firmware-to-mitigate-laserjet-vulnerability/ It seems that printers can be infected via specific network traffic or closed-source malicious "drivers" (that nobody can examine content-wise) that will find their way to the device. Depending on your local legislation, that can develop into dangerous (and expensive) directions... > > 2. Standard language. > > Postscript and PCL. Make sure the printer understands at least > > one of them. > > or, alternatively, PDF (which some of the newer printers are reputed > to take directly, rather than requiring the host to convert it to PS > or PCL). Jerry mentioned this, and I think it's a feature worth demanding when buying a new printer. Still if PDF input is not possible, PCL or PS should be looked for. All those considerations make sure you can use the printer with _any_ OS you like, and due to this fact it will be usable even after the "target OS" will be out of support (and follow-up drivers won't be provided). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 10:09:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83560106564A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:09:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA4B8FC16 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:09:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 73B915C22 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 20:23:19 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F782967.6070401@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 20:09:43 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F75D37C.2020203@lovetemple.net> <20120330232307.41e420b1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4f7770b7.BkVKquuSmumStBb/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120401112923.47e6c8a7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120401112923.47e6c8a7.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Printer recommendation please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:09:45 -0000 On 04/01/12 19:29, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:01:43 -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >> I personally don't trust wireless, because it's well nigh impossible >> to truly secure it. > In that case, one should also pay attention to secure the > printer. Wait - secure the printer? What am I talking about? > > Firmware attacks! > > Yes - malware has already reached printers. As they contain > all typical parts of a computer and are equipped with net- > working capabilities, they can cause trouble in networks > the same way as what hujacked "Windows" PCs typically do. > They can be turned into networked "allies", carrying out > the attackers orders within networks. > > Those who are interested may find some information here: > > Exclusive: Millions of printers open to devastating hack attack, researchers say > http://redtape.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/29/9076395-exclusive-millions-of-printers-open-to-devastating-hack-attack-researchers-say > > ShmooCon 2011: Printers Gone Wild! > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZgLX60U3sY#t=3m40s ROFL! Sorry my mind went to an interesting place with this one.... images of printers on spring break flashing their cartridges, opening flaps to show off their drums... :D The content isn't funny though. They really should consider their headlines before releasing... > > ShmooCon 2011: Printer to PWND: Leveraging Multifunction Printers During > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPhisPLwm2A > > Printer malware: print a malicious document, expose your whole LAN > http://boingboing.net/2011/12/30/printer-malware-print-a-malic.html > > Print Me If You Dare > Firmware Modification Attacks and the Rise of Printer Malware > http://events.ccc.de/congress/2011/Fahrplan/events/4780.en.html > > HP firmware to 'mitigate' LaserJet vulnerability > http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57347817-83/hp-firmware-to-mitigate-laserjet-vulnerability/ > > It seems that printers can be infected via specific network > traffic or closed-source malicious "drivers" (that nobody > can examine content-wise) that will find their way to the > device. Depending on your local legislation, that can develop > into dangerous (and expensive) directions... > > > >>> 2. Standard language. >>> Postscript and PCL. Make sure the printer understands at least >>> one of them. >> or, alternatively, PDF (which some of the newer printers are reputed >> to take directly, rather than requiring the host to convert it to PS >> or PCL). > Jerry mentioned this, and I think it's a feature worth demanding > when buying a new printer. Still if PDF input is not possible, > PCL or PS should be looked for. All those considerations make > sure you can use the printer with _any_ OS you like, and due > to this fact it will be usable even after the "target OS" will > be out of support (and follow-up drivers won't be provided). > > From my memory Xerox are pretty good with this. Besides schmoozing the printed graphics industry they've been a _big_ proponent of the Unix system; in particular the birth of X-Windows, and various print standards long before and after M$ came on the scene. They have still remained a strong supporter of the Unix and printing community. The Phaser is a good choice. Unfortunately they are a bit of an elite brand which puts them out of most home users price range :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 10:54:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA0F106566C for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:54:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5648FC08 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:54:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EAA82492F; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 12:54:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q31AsYs0002426; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 12:54:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 12:54:34 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jens Schweikhardt Message-Id: <20120401125434.345247f0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120331153811.GA82076@schweikhardt.net> References: <20120331153811.GA82076@schweikhardt.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: shutdown -p doesn't power-off USB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:54:36 -0000 On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:38:11 +0200, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: > I'm running 9-STABLE/amd64 and for a few months now, whenever I shut > down with "shutdown -p now", the USB devices still have power. This is > most visible on the USB keyboard, where *all* LEDs are turned on and > stay on. That's not a bug, it's a feature. :-) Many mainboards allow switching-on per keyboard. There's typically a toggle in the board's CMOS setup. Maybe there's also an option to turn USB power completely off. However, USB powered on seems to be the default as soon as the machine's power supply is on line. > The MB is an ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe. Also check its documentation, maybe USB power is mentioned? > Any help appreciated in telling me how to turn off USB power with shutdown. I don't think this is any option in the OS. You should check this per hardware. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 13:05:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A792106566C for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:05:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo102.cox.net (eastrmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51F38FC0A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:05:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo110.cox.net ([68.230.241.223]) by eastrmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120401123532.LFRZ8874.eastrmfepo103.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net>; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 08:35:32 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.83.206]) by eastrmimpo110.cox.net with bizsmtp id scbX1i0054T5sES02cbXyT; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:35:31 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020208.4F784B93.00E8,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=9p1evl5cAK1ZYNWAcfn8X6IfAmCGuOPdFgneQpdUexw= c=1 sm=1 a=RcyhSEpB3QQA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=cRs4AX/51puMaUeRAuoQtw==:17 a=OA2lqS22AAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zk04QdkTAEZw2nSELvAA:9 a=dYxtzAdCW02grK6ZAiAA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ZZAfTtC2Ym4A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=mvgvl5KWo_qByEJ_:21 a=eWmc9Qwu1fPlpH_p:21 a=cRs4AX/51puMaUeRAuoQtw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q31CZUfv043453; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 07:35:31 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 07:35:25 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20120401073525.1c05bc0f@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <20343.7837.796535.407848@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <4F76DD24.4060104@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120331135624.GA46283@ozzmosis.com> <20343.7837.796535.407848@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: using clang (was: Re: ps, clang and make variables) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 13:05:53 -0000 On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:11:25 -0400 Robert Huff wrote: > > As long as we're talking about clang, I have two questions. > 1) Is there any generic reason why a port compiled with clang > won't work on a world compiled with gcc? No, none that I'm aware of. I've occasionally seen mention of this-or-that port causing problems if built with clang, not always directly, but sometimes affecting other ports that depend on it. > 2) If not, how do I set that up? The "standard" method is to include the following in your /etc/make.conf (also see the comments after this): # # use clang unless gcc is explicitly required # .if !defined(USE_GCC) .if !defined(CC) || ${CC} == "cc" CC=clang .endif .if !defined(CXX) || ${CXX} == "c++" CXX=clang++ .endif .if !defined(CPP) || ${CPP} == "cpp" CPP=clang-cpp .endif .endif Over a span of several months, I've gradually amassed a list of ports I use myself which either won't build successfully with clang, or have some sort of runtime issues when built with clang (these have a tendency to change over time with new releases of a given port). For these, I've added some "exception" lines to force them to be built either with the base system gcc (4.2) or the lang/gcc port (4.6). Note that these exceptions have to *precede* the previous lines in order for them to override the above clang settings. You can also override the clang settings at the command line by doing "make USE_GCC=4.2 (or 4.2+)" or "make USE_GCC=4.6 (or 4.6+)", for example. If you do do this from the command line, just be sure to be consistent with it, i.e., you don't want to do a "make USE_GCC=4.6 configure" followed by a plain "make" or "make install". Pretty much sure to lead to trouble. :-) Note, too, that none of these exceptions have anything to do with my /usr/src builds. I've been using clang for buildworld and buildkernel for quite some time now. ############################################################### # (need to put this up here before the following clang stuff) # # ports which either won't build using clang, or that have # runtime issues when built with clang # ############################################################## # # default to using clang for all port builds, with the following # exceptions # ports which will only build with the base system GNU compiler (4.2) # # the "make index" target also seems to need this, for some reason .if target(index) | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/devel/antlr*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/devel/google-perftools* } | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/graphics/ImageMagick* } | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/graphics/opencv*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/www/libxul*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/x11/kdelibs4*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/x11-toolkits/swt-devel*} USE_GCC?=4.2 .endif # ports which need *some* version of the GNU compiler (won't build with # clang or have runtime issues if built with clang) # use the highest version of gcc we have installed from ports (4.6) .if ${.CURDIR:M*/accessibility/jovie*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/accessibility/kdeaccessibility4*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/audio/grip*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/audio/mpg123*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/audio/rosegarden*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/databases/virtuoso*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/deskutils/kdepimlibs4*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/devel/apache-ant*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/devel/binutils*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/devel/icu*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/devel/kdevelop-kde4*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/devel/kdevplatform*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/devel/log4j*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/games/kdegames4*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/graphics/tonicpoint-viewer*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/java/* } | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/lang/gcc*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/math/fftw3*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/multimedia/avidemux2*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/multimedia/kdemultimedia4*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/multimedia/vlc*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/multimedia/xbmc*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/net/kdenetwork4*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/net/mpich2*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/net/opal3*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/net-p2p/ktorrent*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/net-p2p/vuze*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/sysutils/lsof*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/textproc/docbook-xsl*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/textproc/fop*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/www/firefox*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/x11/kde4-baseapps*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/x11/kde4-workspace*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/x11/lxpanel*} | \ ${.CURDIR:M*/x11-toolkits/swt*} USE_GCC?=4.6+ .endif Hope this helps somewhat. :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 13:06:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44B2106564A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:06:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589B68FC17 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:06:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Apr 2012 09:06:09 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BKO32404; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 09:06:09 -0400 Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=209.6.86.84; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None identity=mailfrom; client-ip=209.6.86.84; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=209.6.86.84; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="postmaster@jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received: from 209-6-86-84.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.86.84]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Apr 2012 09:06:09 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20344.21184.853321.579064@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 09:06:08 -0400 To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <20120401073525.1c05bc0f@cox.net> References: <4F76DD24.4060104@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120331135624.GA46283@ozzmosis.com> <20343.7837.796535.407848@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120401073525.1c05bc0f@cox.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: Re: using clang (was: Re: ps, clang and make variables) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 13:06:10 -0000 Conrad J. Sabatier writes: > Note, too, that none of these exceptions have anything to do with > my /usr/src builds. I've been using clang for buildworld and > buildkernel for quite some time now. I've heard that, but I think I'll wait until it becomes the official default. :-) > Hope this helps somewhat. :-) Very much. Thank you. 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[87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gd4sm40773634wib.6.2012.04.01.06.35.42 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 01 Apr 2012 06:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:35:41 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120401143541.4d7d186f@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4F77A6CA.50406@a1poweruser.com> References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F77A360.9080601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F77A6CA.50406@a1poweruser.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 13:35:47 -0000 On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 20:52:26 -0400 Fbsd8 wrote: > Da Rock wrote: > > On 04/01/12 09:52, Fbsd8 wrote: > >> Just purchased an account on the northern Ohio Time Warner cable > >> system. Having problem connecting to their service. Seems their > >> dhcp server has an ip address of 10.2.0.1 which is not public > >> routable. I know my Freebsd 8.2 box functions because it worked > >> fine under att service which I just left for Time Warner service. > >> MY xp laptop works fine with time warner. I can see that during > >> the connection hand shake they first issue ip addresses > >> 192.168.x.x then end up with real public routable ip address for > >> dns and my ip address. Just the dhcp ip is 10.2.0.1. XP seems to > >> handle this connection hand shake ok. I had a modem that did something similar, it issued a temporary private ip address and the replaced it with a routable address. The difference here is that the DHCP server is in a different address block to the DHCP server, but I'm not sure that's a problem. I think that FreeBSD associates DHCP traffic with the interface its operating on irrespective of normal routing. > > Have you got a firewall or something else blocking dhcp from > > communicating? What does ifconfig say? > > > No firewall running and NIC status is "no carrier" This is what you get when something isn't plugged-in or turned-on. 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[87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j3sm41012446wiw.1.2012.04.01.06.50.46 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 01 Apr 2012 06:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:50:44 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120401145044.23b07f8a@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20120401143541.4d7d186f@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F77A360.9080601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F77A6CA.50406@a1poweruser.com> <20120401143541.4d7d186f@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 13:50:50 -0000 On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:35:41 +0100 RW wrote: > The difference here is that the DHCP server is in a different address > block to the DHCP server, That should be: "the temporary address is in a different address block to the DHCP server" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 13:54:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1857106566B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445648FC12 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:54:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcjc3 with SMTP id jc3so2040910bkc.13 for ; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 06:54:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=X03MkMD+FlfFmoaH6Y2XvgnW8Ktpsb1Cx5K3u95i6A8=; b=BPRkH/eVPl9Rjq8l+fc9yMmBXQKXcNvXk8W/uErqzOy+sckM5bYY5lSIl1sbR3OEJX imwE0OflnQ+1/GQB7YobFGFN+ZVS/s9x6Rap1susX8QqoQUTcg8udfJjuGcOLw/F1boE 209mA5+c0MOuwExJU4s0aBgpcKy/WgyrPruAxfPe0YUrirPRXP9PV8ydxvLTs/PJe9iF n3RWiRe4AJX5uw6zXO2hfotAfq3t34NIv84cGXccaFbxBlZX/3JpIrDxcQdOfc6LaWFo 9CB8qiuA+ZAxZFo3Eb9Izg3VRRsT5M9idqT1RHA/HlUsiJpp94REuvL3OP35k1c3bjdR RRXQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.117.15 with SMTP id fk15mr2028553bkc.133.1333288461723; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 06:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.44.201 with HTTP; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:54:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120401143541.4d7d186f@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F77A360.9080601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F77A6CA.50406@a1poweruser.com> <20120401143541.4d7d186f@gumby.homeunix.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 09:54:21 -0400 Message-ID: From: Outback Dingo To: RW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 13:54:23 -0000 On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 9:35 AM, RW wrote: > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 20:52:26 -0400 > Fbsd8 wrote: > >> Da Rock wrote: >> > On 04/01/12 09:52, Fbsd8 wrote: >> >> Just purchased an account on the northern Ohio Time Warner cable >> >> system. Having problem connecting to their service. Seems their >> >> dhcp server has an ip address of 10.2.0.1 which is not public >> >> routable. I know my Freebsd 8.2 box functions because it worked >> >> fine under att service which I just left for Time Warner service. >> >> MY xp laptop works fine with time warner. I can see that during >> >> the connection hand shake they first issue ip addresses >> >> 192.168.x.x then end up with real public routable ip address for >> >> dns and my ip address. Just the dhcp ip is 10.2.0.1. XP seems to >> >> handle this connection hand shake ok. > > I had a modem that did something similar, it issued a temporary private > ip address and the replaced it with a routable address. > > The difference here is that the DHCP server is in a different address > block to the DHCP server, but I'm not sure that's a problem. I think > that FreeBSD associates =A0DHCP traffic with the interface its operating > on irrespective of normal routing. > > >> > Have you got a firewall or something else blocking dhcp from >> > communicating? What does ifconfig say? >> > >> No firewall running and NIC status is "no carrier" > > This is what you get when something isn't plugged-in or turned-on. or when autonegotiation fails between to ports due to incompatibilities, ive seen it alot of times on older gear > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 14:08:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F38106566C for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:08:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7C38FC18 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:08:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 10619831; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:08:36 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.232] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 10619829 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:08:20 -0400 Message-ID: <4F786154.5070906@radel.com> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:08:20 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <996382096.8442.1333260091237.JavaMail.root@students.itb.ac.id> In-Reply-To: <996382096.8442.1333260091237.JavaMail.root@students.itb.ac.id> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000607080400040607050601" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: log error.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:08:38 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000607080400040607050601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 4/1/12 2:01 AM, jangkawijaya@students.itb.ac.id wrote: > > Apr 1 19:33:10 johannesang named[18782]: starting BIND 9.7.4-P1 -t /va= r/named -u bind > Apr 1 19:33:10 johannesang named[18782]: built with '--localstatedir=3D= /var' '--disable-linux-caps' '--disable-symtable' '--with-randomdev=3D/de= v/random' '--with-openssl=3D/usr/local' '--with-libxml2=3D/usr/local' '--= without-idn' '--enable-ipv6' '--enable-threads' '--sysconfdir=3D/etc/name= db' '--prefix=3D/usr' '--mandir=3D/usr/share/man' '--infodir=3D/usr/share= /info/' '--build=3Di386-portbld-freebsd7.3' 'build_alias=3Di386-portbld-f= reebsd7.3' 'CC=3Dcc' 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe' 'LDFLAGS=3D= -rpath=3D/usr/local/lib' 'CPPFLAGS=3D' 'CPP=3Dcpp' 'CXX=3Dc++' 'CXXFLAGS= =3D-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe' > Apr 1 19:33:10 johannesang named[18782]: Using 101 tasks for zone load= ing > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: max open files (3520) is smal= ler than max sockets (4096) > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: command channel listening on = 127.0.0.1#953 > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: command channel listening on = ::1#953 > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone 127.in-addr.arpa/IN: NS = 'johannesang.com.127.in-addr.arpa' has no address records (A or AAAA) > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone 127.in-addr.arpa/IN: not= loaded due to errors. > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone 79.205.167.in-addr.arpa/= IN: has no NS records > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone 79.205.167.in-addr.arpa/= IN: not loaded due to errors. > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone johannesang.com/IN: NS '= host.johannesang.com' has no address records (A or AAAA) > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone johannesang.com/IN: not = loaded due to errors. > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: /etc/namedb/master/localhost-= forward.db:5: unknown RR type 'Serial,' > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone localhost/IN: loading fr= om master file /etc/namedb/master/localhost-forward.db failed: unknown cl= ass/type > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone localhost/IN: not loaded= due to errors. > Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: running > > can somene help me ?? > > can some help me to selve this thanks Ah, the impatience of youth....he'd sent me essentially the same=20 "question" directly and got impatient 30 minutes later and resent it here= =2E Those error messages are pretty explicit. The one hint is that each zone file needs to have at least one NS record = that uses a name for a server. That name has to have at least one A (or = AAAA if you're using ipv6, but I'd suggest you stick with ipv4 until you = have a clue) record that gives an IP address for the server. You can't=20 assign your servers names in in-addr.arpa. Judging from the complaint about RR type 'Serial' you've still got=20 uncommented-out garbage floating around. Fix all that and it'll get better. Better yet, compare what you've got=20 against what's in the documentation and think a bit about what it *means*= =2E The question, of course, is how did you manage to completely break this=20 since the last go around, where I believe you had the NS records working?= --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms000607080400040607050601-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 14:13:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA701065672 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:13:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155F08FC12 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:13:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 10619836; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:13:36 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.232] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 10619834; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:13:18 -0400 Message-ID: <4F78627E.9020101@radel.com> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:13:18 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201204010721.q317LLST092922@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201204010721.q317LLST092922@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms090908070203030605070101" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: jangkawijaya@students.itb.ac.id Subject: Re: log error.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:13:37 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090908070203030605070101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 4/1/12 3:21 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > Since you seen incapable of reading and following the directions for > creating properly formatted BIND zone files, even after having been > directed to those resoures after your prior post, the best advice is > for you to either: > 1) Hire a knowledgable professional to set it up for you. > -or- > 2) Contract with a knowledgable operator to host your zones on *thei= r* > servers. or 3) Find a fellow student locally who has figured it out and is willing=20 to look over your files with you until you get it. --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms090908070203030605070101-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 14:35:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6A5106564A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:35:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383AA8FC0A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:35:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q31EZAo9035713 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 1 Apr 2012 15:35:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q31EZAo9035713 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q31EZAo9035713; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4F786796.5010903@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 15:35:02 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F77A360.9080601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F77A6CA.50406@a1poweruser.com> <20120401143541.4d7d186f@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20120401143541.4d7d186f@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0F2AA40981F945458446DF10" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:35:19 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig0F2AA40981F945458446DF10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/04/2012 14:35, RW wrote: > I had a modem that did something similar, it issued a temporary private= > ip address and the replaced it with a routable address. It's fairly sad that they don't use the officially mandated[*] 169.254.0.0/16 netblock which is what DHCP clients/servers are supposed to use when they need to temporarily grab an address. > The difference here is that the DHCP server is in a different address > block to the DHCP server, but I'm not sure that's a problem. I think > that FreeBSD associates DHCP traffic with the interface its operating > on irrespective of normal routing. Huh? One of those servers should be a client perhaps? Yes. Contacting a DHCP server is done using Ethernet protocols (at least initially.[+]) Not using IP. That means DHCP client and server have to be on the same ethernet segment, or there should be a DHCP-relay on any routers between the client and server. If that fails, then the client can assign itself a link-local address and try that, but it is pretty uncommon in the wild. While you can run multiple different IP networks over the same physical ethernet segment, and so have DHCP servers that dish out addresses on networks distinct from any they have configured on their own interfaces, you're more likely to run into this sort of scenario if there are some DHCP relays in the picture. Cheers, Matthew [*] RFC 5735 [+] Well, also except for IPv6 -- DHCP6 just uses the auto link-local addresses which are pretty much always configured on any IPv6 capable interface. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b4sm19590145anb.22.2012.04.01.07.59.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 01 Apr 2012 07:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3VLKTx5Nrtz2CG5d for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:59:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:59:33 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120401105933.4c6a9d77@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4F786796.5010903@FreeBSD.org> References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F77A360.9080601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F77A6CA.50406@a1poweruser.com> <20120401143541.4d7d186f@gumby.homeunix.com> <4F786796.5010903@FreeBSD.org> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkLqcC6ljJJc/71w1LA7/MVFMhFE5ommfuMsjELeuEMSFfPQeUtR/7fFThk2wD68InZu0A2 Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:59:43 -0000 On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 15:35:02 +0100 Matthew Seaman articulated: > On 01/04/2012 14:35, RW wrote: > > I had a modem that did something similar, it issued a temporary > > private ip address and the replaced it with a routable address. > > It's fairly sad that they don't use the officially mandated[*] > 169.254.0.0/16 netblock which is what DHCP clients/servers are > supposed to use when they need to temporarily grab an address. > > > The difference here is that the DHCP server is in a different > > address block to the DHCP server, but I'm not sure that's a > > problem. I think that FreeBSD associates DHCP traffic with the > > interface its operating on irrespective of normal routing. > > Huh? One of those servers should be a client perhaps? > > Yes. Contacting a DHCP server is done using Ethernet protocols (at > least initially.[+]) Not using IP. That means DHCP client and server > have to be on the same ethernet segment, or there should be a > DHCP-relay on any routers between the client and server. If that > fails, then the client can assign itself a link-local address and try > that, but it is pretty uncommon in the wild. > > While you can run multiple different IP networks over the same > physical ethernet segment, and so have DHCP servers that dish out > addresses on networks distinct from any they have configured on their > own interfaces, you're more likely to run into this sort of scenario > if there are some DHCP relays in the picture. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > [*] RFC 5735 > > [+] Well, also except for IPv6 -- DHCP6 just uses the auto link-local > addresses which are pretty much always configured on any IPv6 capable > interface. Mathew, I don't know if it is as cut and dry as that. The OP claimed that his Microsoft PC connected properly but not his FreeBSD machine. That, in itself, is certainly not surprising. I have always had better luck setting up networks with Microsoft; however, why is it that he is apparently the only FreeBSD user who is exhibiting these problems? I suppose it is conceivable that he alone uses the northern Ohio Time Warner cable system. I find that rather hard, although not impossible to believe. Further more, is this one branch of the TW empire the only one using this configuration? I kind of doubt that myself. It would seem to me that the problem lies in the OP's configuration itself. He claimed it worked with "AT&T". Is it possible he has some left over remnants of that configuration that are causing this problem. Windows would not suffer that problem since it creates a new configuration for each new host. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 15:27:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD9D106566C for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 15:27:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4534D8FC0A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 15:27:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 888F65C22 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 01:41:12 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F7873E8.4030106@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 01:27:36 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F77A360.9080601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F77A6CA.50406@a1poweruser.com> <20120401143541.4d7d186f@gumby.homeunix.com> <4F786796.5010903@FreeBSD.org> <20120401105933.4c6a9d77@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120401105933.4c6a9d77@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 15:27:45 -0000 On 04/02/12 00:59, Jerry wrote: > On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 15:35:02 +0100 > Matthew Seaman articulated: > >> On 01/04/2012 14:35, RW wrote: >>> I had a modem that did something similar, it issued a temporary >>> private ip address and the replaced it with a routable address. >> It's fairly sad that they don't use the officially mandated[*] >> 169.254.0.0/16 netblock which is what DHCP clients/servers are >> supposed to use when they need to temporarily grab an address. >> >>> The difference here is that the DHCP server is in a different >>> address block to the DHCP server, but I'm not sure that's a >>> problem. I think that FreeBSD associates DHCP traffic with the >>> interface its operating on irrespective of normal routing. >> Huh? One of those servers should be a client perhaps? >> >> Yes. Contacting a DHCP server is done using Ethernet protocols (at >> least initially.[+]) Not using IP. That means DHCP client and server >> have to be on the same ethernet segment, or there should be a >> DHCP-relay on any routers between the client and server. If that >> fails, then the client can assign itself a link-local address and try >> that, but it is pretty uncommon in the wild. >> >> While you can run multiple different IP networks over the same >> physical ethernet segment, and so have DHCP servers that dish out >> addresses on networks distinct from any they have configured on their >> own interfaces, you're more likely to run into this sort of scenario >> if there are some DHCP relays in the picture. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Matthew >> >> [*] RFC 5735 >> >> [+] Well, also except for IPv6 -- DHCP6 just uses the auto link-local >> addresses which are pretty much always configured on any IPv6 capable >> interface. > Mathew, I don't know if it is as cut and dry as that. The OP claimed > that his Microsoft PC connected properly but not his FreeBSD machine. > That, in itself, is certainly not surprising. I have always had better > luck setting up networks with Microsoft; however, why is it that he is > apparently the only FreeBSD user who is exhibiting these problems? I > suppose it is conceivable that he alone uses the northern Ohio Time > Warner cable system. I find that rather hard, although not impossible > to believe. Further more, is this one branch of the TW empire the only > one using this configuration? I kind of doubt that myself. It would > seem to me that the problem lies in the OP's configuration itself. He > claimed it worked with "AT&T". Is it possible he has some left over > remnants of that configuration that are causing this problem. Windows > would not suffer that problem since it creates a new configuration for > each new host. > Until it loses that configuration and you're expected to delete it and re-enter the connection details... Explain why it would be so hard to configure various functions as file sharing and some of the more 'new' features for networking on Windows then? A fellow IT colleague and I could not figure it out for the life of us on the newer versions while it worked perfectly on the old '95, '98, NT, 2k, XP systems. So no, Windows does not make networking easier- in fact it has just about completely taken the guts out of networking to abstract it from the user, making it nearly impossible for a networking expert to configure. I digress. In this case we're all only speculating as the OP hasn't provided more detail, but it could be as simple as an unplugged cable :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 16:29:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD491065676 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 16:29:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7C38FC22 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 16:29:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q31GTHfM037298 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 1 Apr 2012 17:29:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q31GTHfM037298 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q31GTHfM037298; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4F788255.9070808@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 17:29:09 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F77A360.9080601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F77A6CA.50406@a1poweruser.com> <20120401143541.4d7d186f@gumby.homeunix.com> <4F786796.5010903@FreeBSD.org> <20120401105933.4c6a9d77@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120401105933.4c6a9d77@scorpio> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7969E0F52D9684EB7CF4C731" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Jerry Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 16:29:26 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7969E0F52D9684EB7CF4C731 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/04/2012 15:59, Jerry wrote: > Mathew, I don't know if it is as cut and dry as that. The OP claimed That's Matthew with two t's. > that his Microsoft PC connected properly but not his FreeBSD machine. > That, in itself, is certainly not surprising. I have always had better > luck setting up networks with Microsoft; however, why is it that he is > apparently the only FreeBSD user who is exhibiting these problems? I > suppose it is conceivable that he alone uses the northern Ohio Time > Warner cable system. I find that rather hard, although not impossible > to believe. Further more, is this one branch of the TW empire the only > one using this configuration? I kind of doubt that myself. It would > seem to me that the problem lies in the OP's configuration itself. He > claimed it worked with "AT&T". Is it possible he has some left over > remnants of that configuration that are causing this problem. Windows > would not suffer that problem since it creates a new configuration for > each new host. You are correct in the sense that I was making general comments and not really addressing the OP's specific problems at all. Yes, quite probably it is user error rather than TW producing a completely non-sensical setup. (I didn't say TW's setup wouldn't work, only that it didn't seem to conform to the appropriate standards.) Not knowing *anything* about how TW's cable network works, nor having any detailed debugging information, all I can do is reiterate the old mantra to the OP: 1) Tell us exactly what you did. 2) Tell us exactly what happened. 3) Tell us what you expected to happen. 4) Tell us why you think what happened was inconsistent with your actions in (1). And when I say "tell" I mean /cut'n'paste relevant bits of config files/ and /show us what the output on your screen or in your log files was/. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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Or until elephants fly, or whatever. > Explain why it would be so hard to configure various functions as > file sharing and some of the more 'new' features for networking on > Windows then? A fellow IT colleague and I could not figure it out for > the life of us on the newer versions while it worked perfectly on the > old '95, '98, NT, 2k, XP systems. So no, Windows does not make > networking easier- in fact it has just about completely taken the > guts out of networking to abstract it from the user, making it nearly > impossible for a networking expert to configure. Just because an individual has a PHD does not make him an expert, in fact it could stand for "Pin Headed Dope". Everyone is an expert in something, just ask them. The fact that you were not smart enough to complete the task means nothing. If we were to use your reasoning, then if a single person could not configure networking in FreeBSD then FreeBSD networking sucks. That is just using your rational. > I digress. In this case we're all only speculating as the OP hasn't > provided more detail, but it could be as simple as an unplugged > cable :) I am willing to bet that this will come down to a simple "PEBKAC" scenario. I am assuming that the user has his cable connection enter his home, and then connecting to a company Router/Modem. I would like to know if the OP had checked out what IP's were being assigned to his boxes by that unit. I recently ran into a case where a user had a static IP assigned to a wireless printer. When he changed printers he could not get it to print because it was not being assigned the same IP as the old unit because he had failed to enter the new MAC address for the newer printer. A simple problem that took a few hours before it dawned on him what the problem was. Actually, Windows did find the printer, CUPS couldn't. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Pryor's Observation: How long you live has nothing to do with how long you are going to be dead. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 18:02:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D8E106566B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 18:02:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo203.cox.net (eastrmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF718FC1D for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 18:02:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo209.cox.net ([68.230.241.224]) by eastrmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120401180207.EACA18532.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo209.cox.net>; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:02:07 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.83.206]) by eastrmimpo209.cox.net with bizsmtp id si271i00B4T5sES02i27oj; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:02:07 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020209.4F78981F.00EA,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=bROEq2r9+Eyg9X7I3fQYdQhRp8F2m1l/XupKbT1znJs= c=1 sm=1 a=RcyhSEpB3QQA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=cRs4AX/51puMaUeRAuoQtw==:17 a=OA2lqS22AAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=r3HpZg1-v3RFnaQZDSgA:9 a=2FTI8rMU31NpnlquNmsA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ZZAfTtC2Ym4A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=cRs4AX/51puMaUeRAuoQtw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q31I26eR046701; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:02:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:02:01 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20120401130201.272897fc@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <20344.21184.853321.579064@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <4F76DD24.4060104@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120331135624.GA46283@ozzmosis.com> <20343.7837.796535.407848@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120401073525.1c05bc0f@cox.net> <20344.21184.853321.579064@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: using clang (was: Re: ps, clang and make variables) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 18:02:16 -0000 On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 09:06:08 -0400 Robert Huff wrote: > Conrad J. Sabatier writes: > > > Note, too, that none of these exceptions have anything to do with > > my /usr/src builds. I've been using clang for buildworld and > > buildkernel for quite some time now. > > I've heard that, but I think I'll wait until it becomes the > official default. :-) I can well understand your hesitation. I didn't jump on the clang bandwagon for a good while myself, either. But, from examining and comparing clang's assembly language output against gcc's, it does seem pretty apparent that clang produces some pretty darned efficient code, frequently using notably fewer machine instructions than gcc, so I try to use it now as much as possible. I also find its error and warning messages to be much more precise and informative than gcc's, which is a real boon if you do any coding yourself. There's that, plus the fact that the base system's version of gcc (4.2) doesn't fully support my processor family type (amdfam10), whereas clang does (although, to be fair, gcc 4.6+ does as well). > > Hope this helps somewhat. :-) > > Very much. > Thank you. You'll come around eventually, no doubt. :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 18:10:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9F5106566C for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 18:10:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EBD38FC08 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 18:10:54 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=EBMFs9CObI1mp8xcrr+OIPmRFyXcOHwNcUDY/oRWR8o=; b=cdFC6C8Xwx9qxk9X5/+a2Za5ZD3LLNU8Ebcadep+JILIvg/f9+4OUR8XX4BxJq96+fp8B0oVcO8g9ktluPv5A3d/yvnkKGxJBs9hSXCpgm5/nOY1AeP7xm6OkJioegoyEAzVQuspTzSZRlifxrrS4MNQexLGwP6V0rMwVZDwvTU= Received: from [192.168.1.200] ([173.88.198.194]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 1 Apr 2012 11:10:53 -0700 Message-ID: <4F789A2C.30502@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:10:52 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F77A360.9080601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F77A6CA.50406@a1poweruser.com> <20120401143541.4d7d186f@gumby.homeunix.com> <4F786796.5010903@FreeBSD.org> <20120401105933.4c6a9d77@scorpio> <4F7873E8.4030106@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4F7873E8.4030106@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Apr 2012 18:10:53.0801 (UTC) FILETIME=[C7142D90:01CD1032] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 18:10:54 -0000 Well here is the results of my attempts to connect to Time Warner cable network. After 4 calls to their call center which was in the Philippines where all the people just read a scripted answer FAQ and only had the ability to remotely reset the modem. I finally requested to talk to the top support level in the USA. Finally got a tech support person who knew something about how their network was configured. Their modems at power up time run a script that is really a private LAN using 192.168.x.x to auto verify the cable modem mac address against a table of authorized accounts. At the conclusion the 10.2.0.1 dhcp server issues a real routable ip address along with the routable 2 dns ip address. Now this long duration hand shake takes about 40 seconds and on a windows system, windows keeps looping through the ip and dns acquire code until it succeeds. Now on freebsd the ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP" seems to only cycle a single time and results in a "no carrier" status in the boot up msg log. After the Freebsd 8.2 boot process completed and I saw "no carrier" status i issued "/etc/rc.d/netif restart" command which resulted in the same status. This is when I posted to the questions list for help. It was after the post that I had my conversation with the level 3 tech support guy and learned about the long hand shake process. I next tried issuing (ifconfig fxp0 up) after the freebsd boot process completed and to my surprise I had a public routable ip address. So I have to find a way during the boot process to give the ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP" statement in the /etc/rc.conf some delay time. But I think Freebsd 9.0 has an built in "up" process in its boot up process that may solve this problem. Another thing I learned from the level 3 support guy is that the cable modem has to be reset by unplugging it's power if I want to move the output cable to a different device, such as from the window box to the freebsd box or to a router. The bottom line is I have things working now and there was nothing wrong with either my window box or my freebsd box. Its just the Time Warner cable modem box and the non-standard way it's configured. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 18:29:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972871065672 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 18:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ECB48FC0C for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 18:29:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q31ITjaK069746; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 12:29:45 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q31ITjEo069743; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 12:29:45 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 12:29:45 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: "Conrad J. Sabatier" In-Reply-To: <20120401130201.272897fc@cox.net> Message-ID: References: <4F76DD24.4060104@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120331135624.GA46283@ozzmosis.com> <20343.7837.796535.407848@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120401073525.1c05bc0f@cox.net> <20344.21184.853321.579064@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120401130201.272897fc@cox.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 01 Apr 2012 12:29:45 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Robert Huff , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: using clang (was: Re: ps, clang and make variables) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 18:29:54 -0000 On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > I can well understand your hesitation. I didn't jump on the clang > bandwagon for a good while myself, either. > > But, from examining and comparing clang's assembly language output > against gcc's, it does seem pretty apparent that clang produces > some pretty darned efficient code, frequently using notably fewer > machine instructions than gcc, so I try to use it now as much as > possible. I also find its error and warning messages to be much more > precise and informative than gcc's, which is a real boon if you do any > coding yourself. > > There's that, plus the fact that the base system's version of gcc (4.2) > doesn't fully support my processor family type (amdfam10), whereas > clang does (although, to be fair, gcc 4.6+ does as well). Have you tried clang with ccache? Any tricks? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 19:11:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858BC106564A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 19:11:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo202.cox.net (eastrmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B088FC17 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 19:11:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo109.cox.net ([68.230.241.222]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120401191135.ILRW1165.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo109.cox.net>; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 15:11:35 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.83.206]) by eastrmimpo109.cox.net with bizsmtp id sjBa1i00K4T5sES02jBay6; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 15:11:35 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020209.4F78A867.0022,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=XApQh1NwS0kk9y5VQg1IQe/r8Q/VmA0LM7eT14yPc6s= c=1 sm=1 a=RcyhSEpB3QQA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=cRs4AX/51puMaUeRAuoQtw==:17 a=s1O25tkdAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=ktvsv_uIbOq499nr1zcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=OyOq_G8mXAEA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=cRs4AX/51puMaUeRAuoQtw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q31JBYYg078992; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:11:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:11:29 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20120401141129.1f94e50e@cox.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4F76DD24.4060104@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120331135624.GA46283@ozzmosis.com> <20343.7837.796535.407848@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120401073525.1c05bc0f@cox.net> <20344.21184.853321.579064@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120401130201.272897fc@cox.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Robert Huff , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: using clang (was: Re: ps, clang and make variables) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:11:41 -0000 On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 12:29:45 -0600 (MDT) Warren Block wrote: > > Have you tried clang with ccache? Any tricks? No, I haven't tried that. Actually, I don't believe I've ever even tried using ccache at all (at least, not that I can recall). :-) -- Conrad J. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g49sm43952887yhk.20.2012.04.01.13.03.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 01 Apr 2012 13:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3VLSF62bhXz2CG5d for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 16:03:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 16:03:53 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120401160353.49a35f75@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4F789A2C.30502@a1poweruser.com> References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F77A360.9080601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F77A6CA.50406@a1poweruser.com> <20120401143541.4d7d186f@gumby.homeunix.com> <4F786796.5010903@FreeBSD.org> <20120401105933.4c6a9d77@scorpio> <4F7873E8.4030106@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F789A2C.30502@a1poweruser.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlZJQX7RF1rYKT452kY3UdUz59QC1HgGDrBallz+/ETPRqQIy5RLbN5YWEkZMNidU50vM3x Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 20:03:58 -0000 On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:10:52 -0400 Fbsd8 articulated: > Well here is the results of my attempts to connect to Time Warner > cable network. > > After 4 calls to their call center which was in the Philippines where > all the people just read a scripted answer FAQ and only had the > ability to remotely reset the modem. I finally requested to talk to > the top support level in the USA. Finally got a tech support person > who knew something about how their network was configured. > > Their modems at power up time run a script that is really a private > LAN using 192.168.x.x to auto verify the cable modem mac address > against a table of authorized accounts. At the conclusion the > 10.2.0.1 dhcp server issues a real routable ip address along with the > routable 2 dns ip address. > > Now this long duration hand shake takes about 40 seconds and on a > windows system, windows keeps looping through the ip and dns acquire > code until it succeeds. Now on freebsd the ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP" seems > to only cycle a single time and results in a "no carrier" status in > the boot up msg log. > > After the Freebsd 8.2 boot process completed and I saw "no carrier" > status i issued "/etc/rc.d/netif restart" command which resulted in > the same status. This is when I posted to the questions list for > help. It was after the post that I had my conversation with the level > 3 tech support guy and learned about the long hand shake process. I > next tried issuing (ifconfig fxp0 up) after the freebsd boot process > completed and to my surprise I had a public routable ip address. So I > have to find a way during the boot process to give the > ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP" statement in the /etc/rc.conf some delay time. > But I think Freebsd 9.0 has an built in "up" process in its boot up > process that may solve this problem. > > Another thing I learned from the level 3 support guy is that the > cable modem has to be reset by unplugging it's power if I want to > move the output cable to a different device, such as from the window > box to the freebsd box or to a router. > > The bottom line is I have things working now and there was nothing > wrong with either my window box or my freebsd box. Its just the Time > Warner cable modem box and the non-standard way it's configured. I have TW with an ARRIS model: TM602G/115 cable modem. I assume you have a battery backup in your unit. If so, you have to remove the battery before resetting the unit to insure it is actually cleared. Have your tried accessing your modem via http? Usually 192.168.1.0 or 192.168.1.1 will work. Give your stations static addresses and see if that makes life easier. By the way, while I don't know what modem you have, mine can accommodate multiple units simultaneously. I don't know why you have to reset it to use a different device. Are you connected via Ethernet or wireless. Even Ethernet should allow a minimum of four unique connections. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 20:30:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71EFA1065670 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 20:30:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E138FC12 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 20:30:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q31KLlIe083319 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 15:21:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4F78B8DB.1090508@tundraware.com> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 15:21:47 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120310 Thunderbird/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ozzie.tundraware.com [192.168.0.1]); Sun, 01 Apr 2012 15:21:47 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: q31KLlIe083319 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: fxp0 Link Going Up And Down X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 20:30:59 -0000 I am seeing this intermittently: Apr 1 14:48:36 host kernel: fxp0: link state changed to DOWN Apr 1 14:52:27 host kernel: fxp0: link state changed to UP This is observed both on some 8.2-STABLE and 8.3-PRERELEASE versions on the same server. I have replaced the ethernet cable as well as the device on the other end (a cable internet box), but the problem intermittently persists. It appears not to be a mechanical issue insofar as I can wiggle the cable at each end and not introduce this problem. fxp0 in this case is the on-board NIC of an Intel mobo. Ideas anyone? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 20:53:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2841510657AB; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 20:53:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com (mail-wg0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CA58FC17; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 20:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds11 with SMTP id ds11so1979159wgb.1 for ; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 13:53:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=f5+4TRLgJmgfYfVVpmE1O/KddfqyUlhw7VUcZqTeceo=; b=rU2H4zUu+Jc7x3QTbSFcwMiBYrABDOQrX88+isSKhMQ3qVmr1KlKTytRNlwTYzYQI9 oLNk8yuS4P3OHEThpgP9sibG9NLbifBs2FLhf66ddRYDR8QMPJq4TXtnf8dtcd3X3K3m jkItleOB8yrZGX+tFSjnS2XMnDvF/73pV9cTnAdOyN2CuW6GBz/XjOsOtdyQmDNtGUlJ wPGsD+/TWx64qPX35ybfx9uaBipQ3obpMsAM1oiB5TZO9C2AobIoPVdXdaKveK1NqKta N1P3ezMfZrW7LK/RejItxf52e77oW3Hx+LJ+AhIgU3bnbQkmuEHlOGwSMLWj8mm6/XpZ tcDw== Received: by 10.180.96.228 with SMTP id dv4mr18565430wib.14.1333313621521; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 13:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.dg (41-135-11-171.dsl.mweb.co.za. [41.135.11.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o2sm45485641wiv.11.2012.04.01.13.53.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 01 Apr 2012 13:53:40 -0700 (PDT) From: David Naylor To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 22:53:42 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-STABLE; KDE/4.7.1; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart37124854.sI4ZIsHfF9"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201204012253.46236.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.5.0 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 20:53:43 -0000 --nextPart37124854.sI4ZIsHfF9 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.5.0 have been uploaded to mediafire [2]. There are many reports that wine does not work with a clang compiled world (help in fixing this problem is appreciated as it affects quite a few users= ). The patch [3] for nVidia users is now included in the package and is run on installation (if the relevant files are accessible). Please read the installation messages for further information. Regards, David [1] MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.4,1.tbz) =3D=20 0f6e1481ffc40e6f15df01893c632bcc MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.4,1.txz) =3D=20 68dcb36632f2ed7498316544db5c7abc [2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64 [3] The patch is located at /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh --nextPart37124854.sI4ZIsHfF9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAk94wFoACgkQUaaFgP9pFrLr8wCfaRqjDy7BPOe4ApqJ7jOowBG0 mEcAnjLMnthCSq67ZcGI/gt+pD0qPMam =o+Rd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart37124854.sI4ZIsHfF9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 21:07:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5561065678 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 21:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo203.cox.net (eastrmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8E18FC22 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 21:07:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo110.cox.net ([68.230.241.223]) by eastrmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120401210707.IUQT18532.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net>; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 17:07:07 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.83.206]) by eastrmimpo110.cox.net with bizsmtp id sl771i0044T5sES02l771F; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 17:07:07 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020204.4F78C37B.004E,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=9p1evl5cAK1ZYNWAcfn8X6IfAmCGuOPdFgneQpdUexw= c=1 sm=1 a=RcyhSEpB3QQA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=cRs4AX/51puMaUeRAuoQtw==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=s1O25tkdAAAA:8 a=8MZPUc6NMPWYeZHMsCAA:9 a=ZscN_j-294ZsY3xnUdcA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=OyOq_G8mXAEA:10 a=cRs4AX/51puMaUeRAuoQtw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q31L70Ig095068; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 16:07:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 16:06:53 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: "Conrad J. Sabatier" Message-ID: <20120401160653.0a79b997@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <20120401141129.1f94e50e@cox.net> References: <4F76DD24.4060104@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120331135624.GA46283@ozzmosis.com> <20343.7837.796535.407848@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120401073525.1c05bc0f@cox.net> <20344.21184.853321.579064@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120401130201.272897fc@cox.net> <20120401141129.1f94e50e@cox.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Robert Huff , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: using clang (was: Re: ps, clang and make variables) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 21:07:14 -0000 On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:11:29 -0500 "Conrad J. Sabatier" wrote: > On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 12:29:45 -0600 (MDT) > Warren Block wrote: > > > > Have you tried clang with ccache? Any tricks? > > No, I haven't tried that. Actually, I don't believe I've ever even > tried using ccache at all (at least, not that I can recall). :-) > You've piqued my curiosity here. :-) I'm doing a buildworld at the moment using ccache with clang. So far, all is well, no problems. Didn't do anything special to get started, just "ccache make -DNO_CLEAN -j8 buildworld" (I have all that clang-enabling stuff already in /etc/make.conf). I know this first run won't really show me much, other than that it *will* compile OK. Subsequent runs should be interesting, though. :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 22:20:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3548D106564A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 22:20:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DAB98FC08 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 22:20:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E67605C29 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 08:33:37 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F78D492.3050605@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:20:02 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F77A360.9080601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F77A6CA.50406@a1poweruser.com> <20120401143541.4d7d186f@gumby.homeunix.com> <4F786796.5010903@FreeBSD.org> <20120401105933.4c6a9d77@scorpio> <4F7873E8.4030106@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120401122947.15e715a5@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120401122947.15e715a5@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 22:20:13 -0000 On 04/02/12 02:29, Jerry wrote: > On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 01:27:36 +1000 > Da Rock articulated: > >> Until it loses that configuration and you're expected to delete it >> and re-enter the connection details... > Or until elephants fly, or whatever. No. This is the common mantra for any Windows net technician. > >> Explain why it would be so hard to configure various functions as >> file sharing and some of the more 'new' features for networking on >> Windows then? A fellow IT colleague and I could not figure it out for >> the life of us on the newer versions while it worked perfectly on the >> old '95, '98, NT, 2k, XP systems. So no, Windows does not make >> networking easier- in fact it has just about completely taken the >> guts out of networking to abstract it from the user, making it nearly >> impossible for a networking expert to configure. > Just because an individual has a PHD does not make him an expert, in > fact it could stand for "Pin Headed Dope". Everyone is an expert in > something, just ask them. The fact that you were not smart enough to > complete the task means nothing. If we were to use your reasoning, then > if a single person could not configure networking in FreeBSD then > FreeBSD networking sucks. That is just using your rational. Both networking in FreeBSD _and_ Winblows can be difficult at times. My point is that Winblows is not some magical fairy that can make everything better. It doesn't. It quite often gets it wrong, and when it does its a b**ch to fix- especially now with the newer versions; it just just gets harder and harder to fix. And (forget your phd) considering both myself and the other tech have _Microsoft_ certs and I topped in networking in that same certification thats saying something, do you think? > >> I digress. In this case we're all only speculating as the OP hasn't >> provided more detail, but it could be as simple as an unplugged >> cable :) > [...] > I recently ran into a case where a user had a static > IP assigned to a wireless printer. When he changed printers he could > not get it to print because it was not being assigned the same IP as > the old unit because he had failed to enter the new MAC address for the > newer printer. A simple problem that took a few hours before it dawned > on him what the problem was. Actually, Windows did find the printer, > CUPS couldn't. > > Again with the magical fairy? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 22:21:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2967106566B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 22:21:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636CD8FC15 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 22:21:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 05C495C29 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 08:35:33 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F78D505.5020905@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:21:57 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F76DD24.4060104@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120331135624.GA46283@ozzmosis.com> <20343.7837.796535.407848@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120401073525.1c05bc0f@cox.net> <20344.21184.853321.579064@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120401130201.272897fc@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <20120401130201.272897fc@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: using clang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 22:21:58 -0000 On 04/02/12 04:02, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 09:06:08 -0400 > Robert Huff wrote: > >> Conrad J. Sabatier writes: >> >>> Note, too, that none of these exceptions have anything to do with >>> my /usr/src builds. I've been using clang for buildworld and >>> buildkernel for quite some time now. >> I've heard that, but I think I'll wait until it becomes the >> official default. :-) > I can well understand your hesitation. I didn't jump on the clang > bandwagon for a good while myself, either. > > But, from examining and comparing clang's assembly language output > against gcc's, it does seem pretty apparent that clang produces > some pretty darned efficient code, frequently using notably fewer > machine instructions than gcc, so I try to use it now as much as > possible. I also find its error and warning messages to be much more > precise and informative than gcc's, which is a real boon if you do any > coding yourself. Tell me about it. I just found the real reason why libreoffice is failing when it gets to tests... :) > > There's that, plus the fact that the base system's version of gcc (4.2) > doesn't fully support my processor family type (amdfam10), whereas > clang does (although, to be fair, gcc 4.6+ does as well). > >>> Hope this helps somewhat. :-) >> Very much. >> Thank you. > You'll come around eventually, no doubt. :-) > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 22:30:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA61A106566B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 22:30:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860678FC0A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 22:30:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CCFE25C29 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 08:44:15 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F78D70F.7010208@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:30:39 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F77A360.9080601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F77A6CA.50406@a1poweruser.com> <20120401143541.4d7d186f@gumby.homeunix.com> <4F786796.5010903@FreeBSD.org> <20120401105933.4c6a9d77@scorpio> <4F7873E8.4030106@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F789A2C.30502@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4F789A2C.30502@a1poweruser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 22:30:42 -0000 On 04/02/12 04:10, Fbsd8 wrote: > Well here is the results of my attempts to connect to Time Warner > cable network. > > After 4 calls to their call center which was in the Philippines where > all the people just read a scripted answer FAQ and only had the > ability to remotely reset the modem. I finally requested to talk to > the top support level in the USA. Finally got a tech support person > who knew something about how their network was configured. > > Their modems at power up time run a script that is really a private > LAN using 192.168.x.x to auto verify the cable modem mac address > against a table of authorized accounts. At the conclusion the 10.2.0.1 > dhcp server issues a real routable ip address along with the routable > 2 dns ip address. > > Now this long duration hand shake takes about 40 seconds and on a > windows system, windows keeps looping through the ip and dns acquire > code until it succeeds. Now on freebsd the ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP" seems > to only cycle a single time and results in a "no carrier" status in > the boot up msg log. > > After the Freebsd 8.2 boot process completed and I saw "no carrier" > status i issued "/etc/rc.d/netif restart" command which resulted in > the same status. This is when I posted to the questions list for help. > It was after the post that I had my conversation with the level 3 tech > support guy and learned about the long hand shake process. I next > tried issuing (ifconfig fxp0 up) after the freebsd boot process > completed and to my surprise I had a public routable ip address. So I > have to find a way during the boot process to give the > ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP" statement in the /etc/rc.conf some delay time. > But I think Freebsd 9.0 has an built in "up" process in its boot up > process that may solve this problem. > > Another thing I learned from the level 3 support guy is that the cable > modem has to be reset by unplugging it's power if I want to move the > output cable to a different device, such as from the window box > to the freebsd box or to a router. > > The bottom line is I have things working now and there was nothing > wrong with either my window box or my freebsd box. Its just the Time > Warner cable modem box and the non-standard way it's configured. I had my suspicions, but I had no way to actually know. Cable modems work the same here: they become 'attached' to a given mac address and have to be reset when moved to a new device. Best to use a router to save that one. Simply unplugging and plugging in the cable should have told FBSD to reconfigure that network. Providing more complete information to the list for help may have given you the solution sooner. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x10sm9751331yhm.12.2012.04.01.15.41.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 01 Apr 2012 15:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3VLWl40P65z2CG5d for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 18:41:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 18:41:35 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120401184135.317e52eb@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4F78D492.3050605@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F77A360.9080601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F77A6CA.50406@a1poweruser.com> <20120401143541.4d7d186f@gumby.homeunix.com> <4F786796.5010903@FreeBSD.org> <20120401105933.4c6a9d77@scorpio> <4F7873E8.4030106@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120401122947.15e715a5@scorpio> <4F78D492.3050605@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlttREhfF7n/Gai083KVJZXnkeS22tEL2iaeg0qzCh9IiLq5HiAEuPpsUPTus6mrqMlpbOn Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 22:41:40 -0000 On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:20:02 +1000 Da Rock articulated: > Both networking in FreeBSD _and_ Winblows can be difficult at times. > My point is that Winblows is not some magical fairy that can make > everything better. It doesn't. It quite often gets it wrong, and when > it does its a b**ch to fix- especially now with the newer versions; > it just just gets harder and harder to fix. And (forget your phd) > considering both myself and the other tech have _Microsoft_ certs and > I topped in networking in that same certification thats saying > something, do you think? A degree != practical knowledge. The only thing you are telling me is that you are a failure with no practical knowledge of what you are doing. You display an obvious disdain for the OS, so how can you even pretend to be objective? That is like me going on a jury with a predisposed hated of the defendant. Guess how that is going to turn out. It is like me putting together model planes. I hate model planes and end up destroying them and conversely blaming the destruction on the planes. It is exactly what you are doing. You obviously are a failure at networking in a Microsoft environment, so go back to whatever it is that you are semi capable of doing, which will also save your employer monies spent on time wasted. Unless of course this happens to be your own unit, in which case run down the block and find a 12 year old and have him/her fix it for you. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 22:46:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7BF4106564A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 22:46:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1-6.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621988FC1D for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 22:46:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.43.26] (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q31MkvHR021638; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 18:46:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <4F78DAE0.5040301@sentex.net> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 18:46:56 -0400 From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Feenberg References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 64.7.153.18 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Many SATA disks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 22:46:59 -0000 On 3/31/2012 6:28 PM, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > > We would like to build a FreeBSD machine ourselves with many (~15) SATA > drives, but NOT use a RAID controller. We want to be able to remove any > drive and connect it to an ordinary motherboard SATA port and mount the > filesystem using only the OS provided drivers and tools. I have built > many FreeBSD systems, but never used port multipliers and don't know > which controllers advertised as RAID controllers will support a plain > pass-thru mode. Would anyone like to make a suggestion from actual > experience? > > The system will be used solely for archiving, so performance is not > critical, but portability of the partitions to other systems is necessary. We use this controller http://www.addonics.com/products/adsa3gpx8-4e.php connected to 3 external drive cages. It works via the siis driver # camcontrol devlist | egrep "ada|ulti" at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (ada0,pass0) at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (ada1,pass1) at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 (ada2,pass2) at scbus0 target 3 lun 0 (ada3,pass3) at scbus0 target 15 lun 0 (pass4,pmp2) at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (ada4,pass5) at scbus2 target 1 lun 0 (ada5,pass6) at scbus2 target 2 lun 0 (ada6,pass7) at scbus2 target 3 lun 0 (ada7,pass8) at scbus2 target 4 lun 0 (ada8,pass9) at scbus2 target 15 lun 0 (pass10,pmp0) at scbus3 target 0 lun 0 (ada9,pass11) at scbus3 target 1 lun 0 (ada10,pass12) at scbus3 target 2 lun 0 (ada11,pass13) at scbus3 target 3 lun 0 (ada12,pass14) at scbus3 target 15 lun 0 (pass15,pmp1) at scbus6 target 0 lun 0 (ada13,pass20) at scbus7 target 0 lun 0 (ada14,pass21) at scbus8 target 0 lun 0 (ada15,pass22) at scbus11 target 0 lun 0 (ada16,pass23) They are part of a zfs pool, but you could use them as individual drives. If they are not part of some raid system, you will have of course no redundancy should a disk fail, unless you have some other plan for that. For us, the pool is not usable if one of the drive cages fails, so its not the most reliable setup for high availability. But its a backup server, so temporary down time should a PM fail is acceptable. Individual disks of course can be swapped out as needed. Also, using ZFS allows us to easily add to the storage capacity for more backups or for longer snapshot retention. ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 22:50:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B339A106566C for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 22:50:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6071F8FC0A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 22:50:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EDADD5C22 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 09:04:18 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F78DBC2.5060800@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:50:42 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F77A360.9080601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F77A6CA.50406@a1poweruser.com> <20120401143541.4d7d186f@gumby.homeunix.com> <4F786796.5010903@FreeBSD.org> <20120401105933.4c6a9d77@scorpio> <4F7873E8.4030106@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120401122947.15e715a5@scorpio> <4F78D492.3050605@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120401184135.317e52eb@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120401184135.317e52eb@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 22:50:44 -0000 On 04/02/12 08:41, Jerry wrote: > On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:20:02 +1000 > Da Rock articulated: > >> Both networking in FreeBSD _and_ Winblows can be difficult at times. >> My point is that Winblows is not some magical fairy that can make >> everything better. It doesn't. It quite often gets it wrong, and when >> it does its a b**ch to fix- especially now with the newer versions; >> it just just gets harder and harder to fix. And (forget your phd) >> considering both myself and the other tech have _Microsoft_ certs and >> I topped in networking in that same certification thats saying >> something, do you think? > A degree != practical knowledge. The only thing you are telling me is > that you are a failure with no practical knowledge of what you are > doing. You display an obvious disdain for the OS, so how can you even > pretend to be objective? That is like me going on a jury with a > predisposed hated of the defendant. Guess how that is going to turn > out. It is like me putting together model planes. I hate model planes > and end up destroying them and conversely blaming the destruction on > the planes. It is exactly what you are doing. > > You obviously are a failure at networking in a Microsoft environment, > so go back to whatever it is that you are semi capable of doing, which > will also save your employer monies spent on time wasted. Unless of > course this happens to be your own unit, in which case run down the > block and find a 12 year old and have him/her fix it for you. > Given that the other tech in question asked me to help him, and he is a Winblows nut like yourself, I think this premise can be dismissed out of hand. I won't even bother to qualify the rest, I wouldn't want to ruin your delusion. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 23:05:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004961065670 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 23:05:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926888FC16 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 23:05:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghrr20 with SMTP id r20so1132675ghr.13 for ; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 16:05:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=EeQn3psBHn+lX9mddPLmE8zNQ9A+ybuPF9teXZm1eZk=; b=YeX5AORLKeJtx5Zpt0+wWxvr7JXlJjb0ybjQxQZXQYnlLJnZNiYVu5o1cUUMSuKkt6 0UBUvENNvAeiuy18UqVx+PBI9sNq2cRijsuvDLWRhzzDpF13AziIEMiHknjyumR2Obi6 oP+YT+CkRrkTdi27vgUO3n9nA4QaN0J04xvI91FP0DuRzS3HoWlVUJyml6sde+j6A39M gWUkYwkMxPpWT0nXGoJh3xCiMN7ln6dSg/V7dxnpa5YcJyyUcMWv+JZkJiHSWaLlgR+w KH3+OtzGqsVfowsBHRt64NtGNpGKsHpvsxEG7DI7TAlEw7sR1bJxZWs9D/EZhifkLuWQ 7hPg== Received: by 10.236.170.70 with SMTP id o46mr5027438yhl.122.1333321546072; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 16:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t43sm45054757yht.11.2012.04.01.16.05.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 01 Apr 2012 16:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3VLXGt2ql8z2CG5d for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 19:05:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 19:05:41 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120401190541.21b6dcc7@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4F78DBC2.5060800@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F77A360.9080601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F77A6CA.50406@a1poweruser.com> <20120401143541.4d7d186f@gumby.homeunix.com> <4F786796.5010903@FreeBSD.org> <20120401105933.4c6a9d77@scorpio> <4F7873E8.4030106@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120401122947.15e715a5@scorpio> <4F78D492.3050605@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120401184135.317e52eb@scorpio> <4F78DBC2.5060800@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmWrTa+wYEgWsNfsIuN3uACKMMDJERkfPtXe4gN1zG9W0iW1iA904R1MMN1q+qoK3+Kxo5i Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 23:05:47 -0000 On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:50:42 +1000 Da Rock articulated: > Given that the other tech in question asked me to help him, and he is > a Winblows nut like yourself, I think this premise can be dismissed > out of hand. I won't even bother to qualify the rest, I wouldn't want > to ruin your delusion. No delusion here. You have confirmed what I suspected. A classic case of "The blind leading the blind." If one idiot can screw something up, just think what two idiots can accomplish? -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 23:57:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71E6106564A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 23:57:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1D98FC1B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 23:57:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q31NvV6L071195; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 17:57:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q31NvVDT071192; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 17:57:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 17:57:31 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: "Conrad J. Sabatier" In-Reply-To: <20120401160653.0a79b997@cox.net> Message-ID: References: <4F76DD24.4060104@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120331135624.GA46283@ozzmosis.com> <20343.7837.796535.407848@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120401073525.1c05bc0f@cox.net> <20344.21184.853321.579064@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120401130201.272897fc@cox.net> <20120401141129.1f94e50e@cox.net> <20120401160653.0a79b997@cox.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 01 Apr 2012 17:57:31 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Robert Huff , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: using clang (was: Re: ps, clang and make variables) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 23:57:41 -0000 On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:11:29 -0500 > "Conrad J. Sabatier" wrote: > >> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 12:29:45 -0600 (MDT) >> Warren Block wrote: >>> >>> Have you tried clang with ccache? Any tricks? >> >> No, I haven't tried that. Actually, I don't believe I've ever even >> tried using ccache at all (at least, not that I can recall). :-) >> > > You've piqued my curiosity here. :-) > > I'm doing a buildworld at the moment using ccache with clang. So far, > all is well, no problems. Didn't do anything special to get started, > just "ccache make -DNO_CLEAN -j8 buildworld" (I have all that > clang-enabling stuff already in /etc/make.conf). I know this first run > won't really show me much, other than that it *will* compile OK. > Subsequent runs should be interesting, though. :-) A few tests earlier today showed that with everything in cache, it took about 1.5 to 2 times as long to build with clang versus gcc 4.2.1. It was faster with a full cache than without, of course: clang took 38 minutes with nothing in cache, about 12 minutes with everything cached, and gcc buildworlds have been as fast as six minutes. A gcc all-cached test I just tried was 7:47. For some reason, buildworlds on this Core I5 are much faster when running powerd -a hadp than without. And somewhat variable. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 2 01:41:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0E9106566B for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 01:41:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgollucci@taximagic.com) Received: from mail-qc0-f182.google.com (mail-qc0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE4D8FC0C for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 01:41:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qcsg15 with SMTP id g15so1576997qcs.13 for ; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 18:41:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=PXLaDkUr7x/wDcADxQVmu/XDhwgABpcOG5Xgnq4XAy4=; b=lqoy7fmxciYdakU+1UzRNNanXoJ2uNiCoNdF8EQ8msbOdlEW9C30oBxWxBaIdAwCcS ytiJ8TnK4rRHIWzEtT0zo+MtSRygmAMsOhZhdHEmxiHp8EzwuQaCESBMM4W+KFFl82us tfO3DWDHxY9wt5oNWGMjwD3zJ8u5dmTBZKcz1yLDdQsm8Kvwb4HP7u0Ka9GFpRExvDjU 0dh1fuKfV0OnBFzvP2E5Ptk2c5lsyoKgYGzb0+hS37ov2+yQrpPPJ0Y3JN2jNT1nO3J/ L3qo2Lu9pC58f6VLhsoJzd4quEgAkaeFZ7VHML62rokA+1fyiCAyTYj5rmlRobg6o9za W4Vw== Received: by 10.224.174.200 with SMTP id u8mr8786612qaz.57.1333330888347; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 18:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jlhewitt.local (pool-108-28-196-170.washdc.fios.verizon.net. [108.28.196.170]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h16sm16952638qad.5.2012.04.01.18.41.26 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 01 Apr 2012 18:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F7903C6.9040400@p6m7g8.com> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 21:41:26 -0400 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: P6M7G8 Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Philip M. Gollucci" References: <4F708223.4060803@p6m7g8.com> <4F7126BA.1000202@p6m7g8.com> <4F7280D7.8050409@p6m7g8.com> <4F762A10.7040007@p6m7g8.com> In-Reply-To: <4F762A10.7040007@p6m7g8.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlsWCQQ8tO+14AKzWLbDMK6TBpjAoYQzGFbwQMq6aShWELVMlKVS+VkBz2tyOyXjRyCbWPb Cc: questions@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd 9.0-release + zfs + mysqld(percona) = kernel: swap zone exhausted, increase kern.maxswzone X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 01:41:29 -0000 On 3/30/12 5:48 PM, Philip M. Gollucci wrote: > After reading several sparse articles/post, I've come to the conclusion > that FreeBSD doesn't do well with SWAP> 32GB; however it does allow it. > As such I decided to drop the swap to 8GB*2=16GB. Sadly that didn't > help either after dropping kern.maxswzone back 2*thedefault which is > apparently very near or the max you can up it and get more actual > SWAPMETA space b/c of the limiting based on the number of total system > pages. > > I'm still quite perplexed here. Please also the recent thread on > -stable where someone has the same problem with ZFS/NFS. > > subject: 9-STABLE, ZFS, NFS, ggatec - suspected memory leak That didn't help either. We will compare NAMEI next in addition to trying to tune the ZFS arch/meta. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1024D/DB9B8C1C B90B FBC3 A3A1 C71A 8E70 3F8C 75B8 8FFB DB9B 8C1C Philip M. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 2 08:00:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF958106564A for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 08:00:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEEBB8FC08 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 08:00:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q327m6Le079921; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 17:48:06 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 17:48:05 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Erich Dollansky In-Reply-To: <20120401045919.246CE1065672@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20120402163942.K2060@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20120401045919.246CE1065672@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "Julian H. Stacey" , schultz@ime.usp.br, Da Rock , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Security in Multiuser Environments X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:00:35 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 408, Issue 10, Message: 5 On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:05:00 +0700 Erich Dollansky wrote: > On Saturday 31 March 2012 20:26:14 Julian H. Stacey wrote: [..] > > Da Rock wrote: > > > On 03/31/12 17:46, Julian H. Stacey wrote: [..] > > > > schultz@ime.usp.br wrote: > > > >> Hello, > > > >> > > > >> I would like to raise a discussion about the security features > > > >> of FreeBSD as a whole and how they might be employed to actually > > > >> derive some meaningful guarantees. > > > > We have a list specialy for freebsd-security@. Please use it. I thought this to be sensible advice. Before seeing that I'd thought of copying it to rwatson@ who I figured might take an interest due to his involvement with Capsicum, acl(3) and such, but he certainly reads that list anyway (and more than likely, not this one :) > > > Hang on, hold the phone: The security list (specifically) is for > > > security announcements. At least that what it said when I subscribed to > > > it... > > > > Wrong. Correct :) > > For list of mail lists see: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo > > > > Specifically: > > freebsd-security@freebsd.org > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security > > > > freebsd-security-notifications@freebsd.org > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security-notifications > this sounds very confusing for people who have simple question: > > 'General system administrator questions of an FAQ nature are > off-topic for this list, but the creation and maintenance of a FAQ is > on-topic. Thus, the submission of questions (with answers) for > inclusion into the FAQ is welcome. Such question/answer sets should > be clearly marked as (at least "FAQ submission") such in the subject. > ' schultz' post was nothing in the way of an FAQ issue, but a request for discussion of a wide range of system security issues, far indeed from a 'simple question'. Had you posted the two paragraphs before the one you quote above, this may have been a little clearer. To wit: "This is a technical discussion list covering FreeBSD security issues. The intention is for the list to contain a high-signal, low-noise discussion of issues affecting the security of FreeBSD. "Welcome topics include Cryptography (as it relates to FreeBSD), OS bugs that affect security, and security design issues. Denial-of-service (DoS) issues are less important than problems that allow an attacker to achieve elevated privelige, but are still on-topic." > This sounds that 'schultz' would be wrong there. Not at all Erich, quite the opposite in my view; as someone who's been subscribed to freebsd-security@ for 12 or so years, I look forward to seeing informed responses to some of schultz' issues. In any event, {s,}he promptly took Julian's advice to post it there, where one aspect has already attracted responses from des@ and pjd@ The best way to get a good sense of what issues are acceptible and/or useful topics for which lists, without having to subscribe, is to browse a list's archives for several months. Works for me. In this case try: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-security/ cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 2 08:11:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337D71065670 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 08:11:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75F88FC0C for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 08:11:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id q328BsmI041038 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 2 Apr 2012 01:11:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id q328BsT4041037; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 01:11:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA16508; Mon, 2 Apr 12 01:10:01 PDT Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:09:07 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd@edvax.de Message-Id: <4f79c113.4NFuCWPOnCnPln6u%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4F75D37C.2020203@lovetemple.net> <20120330232307.41e420b1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4f7770b7.BkVKquuSmumStBb/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120401112923.47e6c8a7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120401112923.47e6c8a7.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: karel@lovetemple.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Printer recommendation please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:11:59 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:01:43 -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > I personally don't trust wireless, because it's well nigh > > impossible to truly secure it. > > In that case, one should also pay attention to secure the > printer. Wait - secure the printer? What am I talking about? > > Firmware attacks! > > Yes - malware has already reached printers ... All the more reason to avoid wireless. (I had been thinking more along the lines of someone intercepting sensitive print files, e.g. tax returns, as they were being sent to the printer.) A printer connected to a hard-wired network, behind a firewall with no tunnelling to it allowed, is not going to get anything sent to it from outside. Granted this does not protect against malware jobs sent from a local machine, but it at least avoids having malware sent wirelessly to the printer by someone parked out front, thus there's one less pathway needing to be secured. It may also be a reason to _avoid_ printers that accept PDF directly. Since PDFs are often downloaded and printed, an attacker could post a bogus firmware download under an innocent-sounding name like "manual.pdf" leading someone to do $ fetch http://.../manual.pdf && lpr manual.pdf Oops. However if said PDF has to first be locally converted to PS (e.g. by xpdf) before being sent to the printer, an attacker would have to (somehow) formulate a PDF that would cause xpdf to emit a "PostScript" file that looked to the printer like a firmware download. I don't know enough about either PDF or xpdf to say whether that's possible, but I imagine it would at least be a whole lot more difficult than in the direct PDF case. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 2 10:12:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CB11065670 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 10:12:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403538FC0A for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 10:12:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B47255C22 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 20:26:33 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F797BA9.6010204@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:12:57 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120401045919.246CE1065672@hub.freebsd.org> <20120402163942.K2060@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20120402163942.K2060@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD Security in Multiuser Environments X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 10:12:59 -0000 On 04/02/12 17:48, Ian Smith wrote: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 408, Issue 10, Message: 5 > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:05:00 +0700 Erich Dollansky wrote: > > On Saturday 31 March 2012 20:26:14 Julian H. Stacey wrote: > [..] > > > Da Rock wrote: > > > > On 03/31/12 17:46, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > [..] > > > > > schultz@ime.usp.br wrote: > > > > >> Hello, > > > > >> > > > > >> I would like to raise a discussion about the security features > > > > >> of FreeBSD as a whole and how they might be employed to actually > > > > >> derive some meaningful guarantees. > > > > > > We have a list specialy for freebsd-security@. Please use it. > > I thought this to be sensible advice. Before seeing that I'd thought of > copying it to rwatson@ who I figured might take an interest due to his > involvement with Capsicum, acl(3) and such, but he certainly reads that > list anyway (and more than likely, not this one :) > > > > > Hang on, hold the phone: The security list (specifically) is for > > > > security announcements. At least that what it said when I subscribed to > > > > it... > > > > > > Wrong. > > Correct :) So thats turn left, right? Clear as mud now... :) > > > > For list of mail lists see: > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo > > > > > > Specifically: > > > freebsd-security@freebsd.org > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security > > > > > > freebsd-security-notifications@freebsd.org > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security-notifications > > > this sounds very confusing for people who have simple question: > > > > 'General system administrator questions of an FAQ nature are > > off-topic for this list, but the creation and maintenance of a FAQ is > > on-topic. Thus, the submission of questions (with answers) for > > inclusion into the FAQ is welcome. Such question/answer sets should > > be clearly marked as (at least "FAQ submission") such in the subject. > > ' > > schultz' post was nothing in the way of an FAQ issue, but a request for > discussion of a wide range of system security issues, far indeed from a > 'simple question'. Had you posted the two paragraphs before the one you > quote above, this may have been a little clearer. To wit: > > "This is a technical discussion list covering FreeBSD security issues. > The intention is for the list to contain a high-signal, low-noise > discussion of issues affecting the security of FreeBSD. I think that has clarified things sufficiently now. Looks like I should subscribe to that list too. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 2 10:14:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25375106564A for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 10:14:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D348FC19 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 10:14:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DF8515C29 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 20:28:25 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F797C19.1080801@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:14:49 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F75D37C.2020203@lovetemple.net> <20120330232307.41e420b1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4f7770b7.BkVKquuSmumStBb/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120401112923.47e6c8a7.freebsd@edvax.de> <4f79c113.4NFuCWPOnCnPln6u%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <4f79c113.4NFuCWPOnCnPln6u%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Printer recommendation please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 10:14:52 -0000 On 04/03/12 01:09, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:01:43 -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >>> I personally don't trust wireless, because it's well nigh >>> impossible to truly secure it. >> In that case, one should also pay attention to secure the >> printer. Wait - secure the printer? What am I talking about? >> >> Firmware attacks! >> >> Yes - malware has already reached printers ... > All the more reason to avoid wireless. (I had been thinking more > along the lines of someone intercepting sensitive print files, e.g. > tax returns, as they were being sent to the printer.) > > A printer connected to a hard-wired network, behind a firewall with > no tunnelling to it allowed, is not going to get anything sent to it > from outside. Granted this does not protect against malware jobs > sent from a local machine, but it at least avoids having malware > sent wirelessly to the printer by someone parked out front, thus > there's one less pathway needing to be secured. > > It may also be a reason to _avoid_ printers that accept PDF directly. > Since PDFs are often downloaded and printed, an attacker could post > a bogus firmware download under an innocent-sounding name like > "manual.pdf" leading someone to do > > $ fetch http://.../manual.pdf&& lpr manual.pdf > > Oops. > > However if said PDF has to first be locally converted to PS (e.g. > by xpdf) before being sent to the printer, an attacker would have > to (somehow) formulate a PDF that would cause xpdf to emit a > "PostScript" file that looked to the printer like a firmware > download. I don't know enough about either PDF or xpdf to say > whether that's possible, but I imagine it would at least be a > whole lot more difficult than in the direct PDF case. Sounds pretty good to me. I'd implement it. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e8sm49378466yhk.0.2012.04.02.04.33.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 02 Apr 2012 04:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3VLrsD1bpKz2CG5d for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:33:03 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120402073303.1ae0ea96@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4f79c113.4NFuCWPOnCnPln6u%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4F75D37C.2020203@lovetemple.net> <20120330232307.41e420b1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4f7770b7.BkVKquuSmumStBb/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120401112923.47e6c8a7.freebsd@edvax.de> <4f79c113.4NFuCWPOnCnPln6u%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmYEmMIeqoOsY0nT6RR4wfEWx7RfK6zIT8WZwXtyGDRbDdJVD7RdNOKqqDS83J3sF6yt4Yd Subject: Re: Printer recommendation please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 11:33:07 -0000 On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:09:07 -0700 perryh@pluto.rain.com articulated: > Polytropon wrote: > > > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:01:43 -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > I personally don't trust wireless, because it's well nigh > > > impossible to truly secure it. > > > > In that case, one should also pay attention to secure the > > printer. Wait - secure the printer? What am I talking about? > > > > Firmware attacks! > > > > Yes - malware has already reached printers ... > > All the more reason to avoid wireless. (I had been thinking more > along the lines of someone intercepting sensitive print files, e.g. > tax returns, as they were being sent to the printer.) > > A printer connected to a hard-wired network, behind a firewall with > no tunnelling to it allowed, is not going to get anything sent to it > from outside. Granted this does not protect against malware jobs > sent from a local machine, but it at least avoids having malware > sent wirelessly to the printer by someone parked out front, thus > there's one less pathway needing to be secured. > > It may also be a reason to _avoid_ printers that accept PDF directly. > Since PDFs are often downloaded and printed, an attacker could post > a bogus firmware download under an innocent-sounding name like > "manual.pdf" leading someone to do > > $ fetch http://.../manual.pdf && lpr manual.pdf > > Oops. > > However if said PDF has to first be locally converted to PS (e.g. > by xpdf) before being sent to the printer, an attacker would have > to (somehow) formulate a PDF that would cause xpdf to emit a > "PostScript" file that looked to the printer like a firmware > download. I don't know enough about either PDF or xpdf to say > whether that's possible, but I imagine it would at least be a > whole lot more difficult than in the direct PDF case. Obviously you are not aware of the latest trend towards the movement to standardize PDF as the standard print format. I would recommend you start by reading the documentation located at: and continue on from there. While there might be some rational for your security concerns on a business network in regards to wireless networks, they are not really relevant on a home networks. The simple ease of use that a wireless network gives a user on a home network far outweigh any pseudo claims of espionage. Furthermore, there are means of encrypting print data. I leave the mastery of that matter up to the student. By the way, since you seem so concerned over your printers security, I assume that you all ready have it at least password protected. Personally, I prefer using certificates. Now that is real security. Again, I assume you are using printers capable of that security. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. 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I would recommend you > start by reading the documentation located at: > > and continue on from there. Seconded, good introductional read. Addition: PDF as Standard Print Job Format http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/pdfasstandardprintjobformat > While there might be some rational for your security concerns on a > business network in regards to wireless networks, they are not really > relevant on a home networks. The simple ease of use that a wireless > network gives a user on a home network far outweigh any pseudo claims of > espionage. I think you're underestimating the threat coming from hijacked home consumer networks. Of course, business networks are more interesting, as they might contain data one could sell (personnel data, inventions, business figures, pricing, internal products calculations and so on), but home networks seem to be more easily to crack. The typical point of attack is a "Windows" PC in such a network, and the result is a machine controlled by a criminal, acting as a spam server, as part of a botnet, as a participant in illegal file sharing or as a storage point for child pornography. The user itself often doesn't recognize any of those activities. In today's Internet, more than 90% of the traffic generated in email is spam. What do you think they come from? Now let's assume printers are easily exploitable because manufacturers are careless when implementing the PDF printing standard, or they leave "extensions" active that can be abused. While average "Windows" users are more and more aware of caring about viruses, trojans, malware and other attacks for their _own_ security, such considerations about a printer aren't wide spread. "But it's only a printer, it can't do anything!" What I want to say: Printers _are_ and _will be_ attack vectors that need attention. If the manufacturers provide a good basis, that would be great. For example, if a PDF file contained malicious code, the printer accepts it, prints it, but doesn't do anything more, it would be a safe procedure. But as PDF is _known_ to be unsafe in regards that it _can_ contain stuff to attack a computer, the conclusion is that (depending on what manufacturers actually implement) it might do so to a printer too. The danger of PDF is comparable to the danger of "Office" files (typically macros as "hooks" for malicious code). Now add some "auto-opening" functionality to a MUA, and you're done. Summary: PDF as a printing standard is very welcome, as long as it takes the chance to be a secure thing. > Furthermore, there are means of encrypting print data. I > leave the mastery of that matter up to the student. That's interesting, I'll investigate on that further. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:25:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@g8kbv.demon.co.uk) Received: from lon1-msapost-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-msapost-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACA08FC0C for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:25:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.41.35.220] (helo=[192.168.16.85]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtpsa (AUTH g8kbv) (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.69) id 1SEi5M-0004ET-Xx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2012 14:18:20 +0000 From: "Dave" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 15:18:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4F79B52B.10977.179C07B@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <201204011021.55092.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com>, <4F77B5EC.5020002@herveybayaustralia.com.au>, <201204011021.55092.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.62) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 14:25:10 -0000 On 1 Apr 2012 at 10:21, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Sunday 01 April 2012 08:57:00 Da Rock wrote: > > > > > > Did they come to your location and run a test to their equipment? > > > My neighbor had a recent cable outage of an existing cable on our > > > block that was too low and a moving van hit it. > > > > Apparently the Windows system works, so I'd assume all that side is > > ok- just FBSD box is the issue. > > so, there is some difference. The questions are there to find out what > the difference might be. > > Erich > > fbsd8 How do you connect to your TW ISP? Just a Cable modem of some sort, or is there a Router involved somewhere? It makes a whole world of difference.... I.e. How "Physically" do you hook together, in each instance, for the XP box, and F'BSD box. Regards. Dave B. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 2 14:41:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA94106566C for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:41:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@g8kbv.demon.co.uk) Received: from lon1-msapost-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-msapost-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26FC8FC12 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:40:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.41.35.220] (helo=[192.168.16.85]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtpsa (AUTH g8kbv) (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.69) id 1SEiIh-0005aq-aE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2012 14:32:07 +0000 From: "Dave" To: FreeBSD Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 15:32:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4F79B866.5200.1865DEE@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20120401190541.21b6dcc7@scorpio> References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com>, <4F78DBC2.5060800@herveybayaustralia.com.au>, <20120401190541.21b6dcc7@scorpio> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.62) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 14:41:00 -0000 On 1 Apr 2012 at 19:05, Jerry wrote: > On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:50:42 +1000 > Da Rock articulated: > > > Given that the other tech in question asked me to help him, and he > > is a Winblows nut like yourself, I think this premise can be > > dismissed out of hand. I won't even bother to qualify the rest, I > > wouldn't want to ruin your delusion. > > No delusion here. You have confirmed what I suspected. A classic case > of "The blind leading the blind." If one idiot can screw something up, > just think what two idiots can accomplish? > > -- > Jerry > > Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. > Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. > __________________________________________________________________ > > > In the world of the blind, the one eyed bloke is promoted to near god like status! Dave B. 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[87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f6sm39147265bkg.10.2012.04.02.08.01.48 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:01:47 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120402160147.24f4098f@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4F79B52B.10977.179C07B@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F77B5EC.5020002@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <201204011021.55092.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <4F79B52B.10977.179C07B@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 15:01:53 -0000 On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 15:18:19 +0100 Dave wrote: > fbsd8 > > How do you connect to your TW ISP? Just a Cable modem of some sort, > or is there a Router involved somewhere? It makes a whole world of > difference.... If you read the rest of the thread you'll see that that the problem was solved yesterday. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 2 15:13:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B642F1065674 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rogerk@queernet.org) Received: from mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (mailbox.onlinepolicy.net [209.237.247.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A018D8FC21 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:13:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.18.173.84] (mobile-198-228-220-075.mycingular.net [198.228.220.75]) by mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC4E17AD4AE; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:48:54 -0700 (PDT) References: <4F7798D0.7000404@a1poweruser.com> <4F78DBC2.5060800@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120401190541.21b6dcc7@scorpio> <4F79B866.5200.1865DEE@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4F79B866.5200.1865DEE@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <5D4E4D2C-9548-4F1B-A806-082A7726F27E@queernet.org> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B179) From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:48:50 -0700 To: Dave Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Access to Time Warner cable network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 15:13:25 -0000 On Apr 2, 2012, at 7:32 AM, "Dave" wrote: > On 1 Apr 2012 at 19:05, Jerry wrote: >=20 >> On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:50:42 +1000 >> Da Rock articulated: >>=20 >>> Given that the other tech in question asked me to help him, and he >>> is a Winblows nut like yourself, I think this premise can be >>> dismissed out of hand. I won't even bother to qualify the rest, I >>> wouldn't want to ruin your delusion. >>=20 >> No delusion here. You have confirmed what I suspected. A classic case >> of "The blind leading the blind." If one idiot can screw something up, >> just think what two idiots can accomplish? >>=20 >> --=20 >> Jerry=20 >>=20 >> Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. >> Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. >> __________________________________________________________________ >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > In the world of the blind, the one eyed bloke is promoted to near god=20 > like status! >=20 > Dave Does all this smugness actually seem useful to all of you, or is one factor b= ehind the precipitous drop in FreeBSD community size how much y'all love the= sound of your own voices?!= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 2 16:55:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDA11065672 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:55:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mage@grs.hu) Received: from grs.hu (grs.hu [195.56.45.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4168FC1F for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from catv-89-132-194-132.catv.broadband.hu ([89.132.194.132] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by grs.hu with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SEkIB-000EAe-3k for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2012 18:39:43 +0200 Message-ID: <4F79D649.5070706@mage.hu> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 18:39:37 +0200 From: Mage User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120321 Thunderbird/10.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120331153811.GA82076@schweikhardt.net> In-Reply-To: <20120331153811.GA82076@schweikhardt.net> Sender: mage@grs.hu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: shutdown -p doesn't power-off USB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 16:55:25 -0000 For me it's even worse. http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=29700 It occurs after the first world rebuilding and I can't solve it since months. And only occurs since 9.0 is out. 9 RC3 worked fine. However the fresh install from the 9.0 stable disk also works fine until building and installing kernel and world from src. The kernel is GENERIC and I run mergemaster properly every time it's needed. All my computers having this issue are on ZFS root and all work properly except the shutdown and reboot. Mage On 03/31/2012 17:38, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: > hello world\n > > I'm running 9-STABLE/amd64 and for a few months now, whenever I shut > down with "shutdown -p now", the USB devices still have power. This is > most visible on the USB keyboard, where *all* LEDs are turned on and > stay on. > > The MB is an ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe. > > The USB related sysctls are: > # sysctl -aw|grep -i usb > USB1008A Flash Disk > device usb > hw.pci.usb_early_takeover: 1 > hw.usb.no_shutdown_wait: 0 > hw.usb.no_boot_wait: 0 > hw.usb.debug: 0 > hw.usb.usb_lang_mask: 255 > hw.usb.usb_lang_id: 9 > hw.usb.template: 0 > hw.usb.power_timeout: 30 > hw.usb.no_pf: 0 > hw.usb.no_cs_fail: 0 > dev.uhci.0.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-D > dev.uhci.0.%location: slot=26 function=0 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USB4 > dev.uhci.1.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-E > dev.uhci.1.%location: slot=26 function=1 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USB5 > dev.uhci.2.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-F > dev.uhci.2.%location: slot=26 function=2 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USB6 > dev.uhci.3.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-A > dev.uhci.3.%location: slot=29 function=0 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USB0 > dev.uhci.4.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-B > dev.uhci.4.%location: slot=29 function=1 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USB1 > dev.uhci.5.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-C > dev.uhci.5.%location: slot=29 function=2 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USB2 > dev.usbus.0.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-D > dev.usbus.0.%driver: usbus > dev.usbus.0.%parent: uhci0 > dev.usbus.1.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-E > dev.usbus.1.%driver: usbus > dev.usbus.1.%parent: uhci1 > dev.usbus.2.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-F > dev.usbus.2.%driver: usbus > dev.usbus.2.%parent: uhci2 > dev.usbus.3.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB 2.0 controller USB-B > dev.usbus.3.%driver: usbus > dev.usbus.3.%parent: ehci0 > dev.usbus.4.%driver: usbus > dev.usbus.4.%parent: xhci0 > dev.usbus.5.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-A > dev.usbus.5.%driver: usbus > dev.usbus.5.%parent: uhci3 > dev.usbus.6.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-B > dev.usbus.6.%driver: usbus > dev.usbus.6.%parent: uhci4 > dev.usbus.7.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-C > dev.usbus.7.%driver: usbus > dev.usbus.7.%parent: uhci5 > dev.usbus.8.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB 2.0 controller USB-A > dev.usbus.8.%driver: usbus > dev.usbus.8.%parent: ehci1 > dev.ehci.0.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB 2.0 controller USB-B > dev.ehci.0.%location: slot=26 function=7 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USBE > dev.ehci.1.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB 2.0 controller USB-A > dev.ehci.1.%location: slot=29 function=7 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.EUSB > dev.xhci.0.%desc: XHCI (generic) USB 3.0 controller > dev.uhub.0.%parent: usbus0 > dev.uhub.1.%parent: usbus1 > dev.uhub.2.%parent: usbus2 > dev.uhub.3.%parent: usbus3 > dev.uhub.4.%parent: usbus4 > dev.uhub.5.%parent: usbus5 > dev.uhub.6.%parent: usbus6 > dev.uhub.7.%parent: usbus7 > dev.uhub.8.%parent: usbus8 > dev.ums.0.%desc: Logitech USB Receiver, class 0/0, rev 2.00/22.00, addr 2 > dev.uhid.0.%desc: Logitech USB Receiver, class 0/0, rev 2.00/22.00, addr 2 > > Any help appreciated in telling me how to turn off USB power with shutdown. > > Regards, > > Jens From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 2 17:35:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BE4106566C for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 17:35:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com (nk11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com [17.158.161.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB938FC19 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 17:35:23 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from [192.168.0.194] ([24.237.133.115]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01(7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0M1P0004SXV4SW70@nk11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:16:17 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7498,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-03-30_06:2012-03-30, 2012-03-30, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1203300259 From: "Peter A. Giessel" In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:16:15 -0800 Message-id: <2E2ED820-21EA-4025-A4AA-A4CA76C01E29@mac.com> References: <4F75D37C.2020203@lovetemple.net> To: Warren Block X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: Karel Miklav , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Printer recommendation please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 17:35:24 -0000 On 2012, Mar 30, at 11:17, Warren Block wrote: > It should work with FreeBSD, certainly for text. For graphics > output, Gutenprint doesn't have a setting specifically for the > 6500, but one of the similar printers probably will work. Don't > expect photo quality, color lasers have to do halftones. It doesn't surprise me that Gutenprint doesn't have a setting specifically for the 6500 because Xerox provides one: I have a Phaser 6300 (older model), and it has worked well for every OS that I have thrown at it, including Mac, Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, iOS, etc. Echoing others, get a real postscript printer, get a real network printer (not USB), and get a laser printer (although Thermal Wax would also be acceptable). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 2 18:06:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [69.147.83.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10B3106564A; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:06:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from opti.dougb.net (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A98A14DEBA; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:06:30 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4F79EAA6.5050004@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 11:06:30 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120218 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Greco References: <201203301441.q2UEfqIE097518@aurora.sol.net> In-Reply-To: <201203301441.q2UEfqIE097518@aurora.sol.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, Mark Felder , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 18:06:31 -0000 On 03/30/2012 07:41, Joe Greco wrote: >> On 3/29/2012 7:01 AM, Joe Greco wrote: >>>> On 3/28/2012 1:59 PM, Mark Felder wrote: >>>>> FreeBSD 8-STABLE, 8.3, and 9.0 are untested >>>> >>>> As much as I'm sensitive to your production requirements, realistically >>>> it's not likely that you'll get a helpful result without testing a newer >>>> version. 8.2 came out over a year ago, many many things have changed >>>> since then. >>>> >>>> Doug >>> >>> So you're saying that he should have been using 8.3-RELEASE, then. >> >> That isn't what I said at all, sorry if I wasn't clear. The OP mentioned >> 9.0-RELEASE, and in the context of his message (which I snipped) he >> mentioned 8-stable. That's what I was referring to. > > And since both the poster and I made it clear that this doesn't seem > to be a case of "it fails reliably on a machine of your choosing", > just installing random other versions and hoping that it's going to > cause a fail ... well, let's just say that doesn't make a whole lot > of sense. Or at least it's a recipe for a hell of a lot of busywork, > busywork not guaranteed to return any sort of useful result. And since you can't reliably reproduce the problem, how do you expect us to? I understand that these sorts of bugs are difficult/annoying, etc. Been there, done that. > In the meantime, it's unrealistic to tell people to use supported > releases, to wait fifteen months between releases, and then to criticize > people complaining about problems with a supported release for "using > old code". Just to be clear, I didn't criticize anyone. And I share your frustration with the length of the 8.3 release cycle. I really wish I had a better answer, but as much as you and I may wish that things were different, "Try a newer version" is the best answer we have atm. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 2 18:43:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928601065672; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:43:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgreco@aurora.sol.net) Received: from mail2.sol.net (mail2.sol.net [206.55.64.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643428FC1F; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:43:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from aurora.sol.net (IDENT:jgreco@aurora.sol.net [206.55.70.98]) by mail2.sol.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/SNNS-1.04) with ESMTP id q32IhPTU035713; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 13:43:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by aurora.sol.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id q32IhPGZ053424; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 13:43:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <201204021843.q32IhPGZ053424@aurora.sol.net> To: dougb@FreeBSD.org (Doug Barton) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 13:43:25 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <4F79EAA6.5050004@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, Mark Felder , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 18:43:37 -0000 > On 03/30/2012 07:41, Joe Greco wrote: > >> On 3/29/2012 7:01 AM, Joe Greco wrote: > >>>> On 3/28/2012 1:59 PM, Mark Felder wrote: > >>>>> FreeBSD 8-STABLE, 8.3, and 9.0 are untested > >>>> > >>>> As much as I'm sensitive to your production requirements, realistically > >>>> it's not likely that you'll get a helpful result without testing a newer > >>>> version. 8.2 came out over a year ago, many many things have changed > >>>> since then. > >>>> > >>>> Doug > >>> > >>> So you're saying that he should have been using 8.3-RELEASE, then. > >> > >> That isn't what I said at all, sorry if I wasn't clear. The OP mentioned > >> 9.0-RELEASE, and in the context of his message (which I snipped) he > >> mentioned 8-stable. That's what I was referring to. > > > > And since both the poster and I made it clear that this doesn't seem > > to be a case of "it fails reliably on a machine of your choosing", > > just installing random other versions and hoping that it's going to > > cause a fail ... well, let's just say that doesn't make a whole lot > > of sense. Or at least it's a recipe for a hell of a lot of busywork, > > busywork not guaranteed to return any sort of useful result. > > And since you can't reliably reproduce the problem, how do you expect us > to? I understand that these sorts of bugs are difficult/annoying, etc. > Been there, done that. Nobody expected you to. We're trying to figure out any commonalities that might exist; these may serve to help shed light on where the problem lies. The interesting thing is that I took it and looked at it and came to a conclusion that might have been wrong, though I think the trail of reasoning I used was itself reasonable, given my exceedingly small (one example of problem) sample size. Mark's able to actually *reproduce* the problem on separate installs and with circumstances that are at least somewhat different than what my theory involved, though it is not quite possible to rule out some sort of corruption. Since I have to *assume* that many sites run some sort of FreeBSD on their VMware gear, given that VMware actually lists it as a supported version and VMware generally does things "for profit", I am still kind of of the opinion that this is some sort of corruption bug, one that I triggered inadvertently, but one that Mark's environment reproduces rather more frequently. That just seems so unlikely, but more unlikely things have come to pass, so I'm holding onto it as my working theory ;-) I still plan to try to recover my broken VM from backups at some point if time permits. But in short, to answer your question: I don't *care* if you can reproduce the problem. As a user, you can't win. If you don't report a problem, you get criticized. If you report a problem but can't figure out how to reproduce it, you get criticized. If you can reproduce it but you don't submit a workaround, you get criticized. If you submit a workaround but you don't submit a patch, you get criticized. If you submit a patch but it's not in the preferred format, you get criticized. Hm. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 2 20:48:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21EF106564A for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 20:48:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837AF8FC15 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 20:48:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so6294149iah.13 for ; Mon, 02 Apr 2012 13:48:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=005Y98IN6wuL/AsNb4yXHCMzxuCpt5bLbouqu6GnZ8U=; b=ja2wCHzsBH0XMa4z7gSEkm75AEhX+EWNQifUnfEIXa/zPW9Vy6z5cKmMDpDWJFPOTN W16BSC2pWj0Mmane9tJku1hW3jdQWlPH3xcX62mUFBSbmtpbdAjYTtm+WgYJWw8+KMNN HnvR/Ffg7UAlDaWRbJiY8hhnelMAJEZgnj8Pk5ZIEjptaaulAGB54z0H3UR4s/uP6E8n dn7YfXafU9a9rFh4pbWhouskXT3wYOri6fLD7U3H8Hv6JfIQwfxyVjLVatEOBHqQar5F Mt/fw0zX9qReT0LFqco11dz+iBC2h9FNu+0dtQAgjr0GP3NBVVgakX1fsPFWXMMwlbnS EMXA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.87.225 with SMTP id bb1mr6955754igb.13.1333399683098; Mon, 02 Apr 2012 13:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.80.77 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 13:48:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.179.177] In-Reply-To: <4F782967.6070401@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <4F75D37C.2020203@lovetemple.net> <20120330232307.41e420b1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4f7770b7.BkVKquuSmumStBb/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120401112923.47e6c8a7.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F782967.6070401@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 22:48:02 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Da Rock Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk9BAnRABrCyFlhidqtlcV3VjhbQIRMiZwH+U+avkIl+svuacnzEVT1uZXTek491R/teeKx Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Printer recommendation please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:48:03 -0000 On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Da Rock wrote: > On 04/01/12 19:29, Polytropon wrote: >> >> Firmware attacks! > > ROFL! Sorry my mind went to an interesting place with this one.... images of > printers on spring break flashing their cartridges, opening flaps to show > off their drums... :D Reminds me of the VAXorcist... ;-) http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/vaxorcist.html -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 2 20:52:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAD11065674 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 20:52:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1-6.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94ABD8FC0C for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 20:52:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.43.26] (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q32KqFoM064009; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:52:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <4F7A117B.8050907@sentex.net> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 16:52:11 -0400 From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Daneliuk References: <4F78B8DB.1090508@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <4F78B8DB.1090508@tundraware.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 64.7.153.18 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: fxp0 Link Going Up And Down X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:52:19 -0000 On 4/1/2012 4:21 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > I am seeing this intermittently: > > Apr 1 14:48:36 host kernel: fxp0: link state changed to DOWN > Apr 1 14:52:27 host kernel: fxp0: link state changed to UP There were some fixes to the fxp driver on ~ March 26th that fixed the NIC bouncing up and down when it went into promisc mode. But those bounces were very short lived (a few seconds to transition). Your up/down events are minutes. Perhaps the cable modem is going into some sort of "sleep mode" ? Or perhaps just a hardware issue. If you can, try and put a simple hub or switch between the cable modem and your NIC and see if you still get bounces. Also, there are many variants of fxp hardware. Post the output of egrep -i "fxp|phy" /var/run/dmesg.boot and sysctl -a dev.fxp ---Mike > > This is observed both on some 8.2-STABLE and 8.3-PRERELEASE versions > on the same server. I have replaced the ethernet cable as well as the > device on the other end (a cable internet box), but the problem > intermittently persists. It appears not to be a mechanical issue > insofar as I can wiggle the cable at each end and not introduce this > problem. > > fxp0 in this case is the on-board NIC of an Intel mobo. > > Ideas anyone? > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com > PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 2 21:58:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34041065688 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 21:58:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8240E8FC14 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 21:58:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q32LweEh037466 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:58:40 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4F7A210F.4060800@tundraware.com> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 16:58:39 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120310 Thunderbird/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <4F78B8DB.1090508@tundraware.com> <4F7A117B.8050907@sentex.net> In-Reply-To: <4F7A117B.8050907@sentex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ozzie.tundraware.com [192.168.0.1]); Mon, 02 Apr 2012 16:58:40 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: q32LweEh037466 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: fxp0 Link Going Up And Down X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 21:58:57 -0000 On 04/02/2012 03:52 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 4/1/2012 4:21 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: >> I am seeing this intermittently: >> >> Apr 1 14:48:36 host kernel: fxp0: link state changed to DOWN >> Apr 1 14:52:27 host kernel: fxp0: link state changed to UP > > There were some fixes to the fxp driver on ~ March 26th that fixed the > NIC bouncing up and down when it went into promisc mode. But those > bounces were very short lived (a few seconds to transition). Your > up/down events are minutes. Perhaps the cable modem is going into some > sort of "sleep mode" ? Or perhaps just a hardware issue. If you can, I don't think so. The modem has a built in hub and I am not observing this problem on other devices plug in there. > try and put a simple hub or switch between the cable modem and your NIC > and see if you still get bounces. > > Also, there are many variants of fxp hardware. Post the output of > > egrep -i "fxp|phy" /var/run/dmesg.boot > fxp0: port 0x1100-0x113f mem 0x90040000-0x90040fff irq 20 at device 8.0 on pci4 miibus0: on fxp0 ukphy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto, auto-flow fxp0: Ethernet address: ... fxp0: [ITHREAD] > and > > sysctl -a dev.fxp dev.fxp.0.%desc: Intel Pro/100 946GZ (ICH7) Network Connection dev.fxp.0.%driver: fxp dev.fxp.0.%location: slot=8 function=0 dev.fxp.0.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x8086 device=0x1094 subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x0001 class=0x020000 dev.fxp.0.%parent: pci4 dev.fxp.0.int_delay: 1000 dev.fxp.0.bundle_max: 6 dev.fxp.0.rnr: 0 dev.fxp.0.stats.rx.good_frames: 2004295 dev.fxp.0.stats.rx.crc_errors: 0 dev.fxp.0.stats.rx.alignment_errors: 0 dev.fxp.0.stats.rx.rnr_errors: 0 dev.fxp.0.stats.rx.overrun_errors: 0 dev.fxp.0.stats.rx.cdt_errors: 0 dev.fxp.0.stats.rx.shortframes: 0 dev.fxp.0.stats.rx.pause: 0 dev.fxp.0.stats.rx.controls: 0 dev.fxp.0.stats.rx.tco: 0 dev.fxp.0.stats.tx.good_frames: 1701132 dev.fxp.0.stats.tx.maxcols: 0 dev.fxp.0.stats.tx.latecols: 0 dev.fxp.0.stats.tx.underruns: 0 dev.fxp.0.stats.tx.lostcrs: 0 dev.fxp.0.stats.tx.deffered: 0 dev.fxp.0.stats.tx.single_collisions: 0 dev.fxp.0.stats.tx.multiple_collisions: 0 dev.fxp.0.stats.tx.total_collisions: 0 dev.fxp.0.stats.tx.pause: 0 dev.fxp.0.stats.tx.tco: 0 Thanks for taking time to look into this... > > ---Mike > >> >> This is observed both on some 8.2-STABLE and 8.3-PRERELEASE versions >> on the same server. I have replaced the ethernet cable as well as the >> device on the other end (a cable internet box), but the problem >> intermittently persists. It appears not to be a mechanical issue >> insofar as I can wiggle the cable at each end and not introduce this >> problem. >> >> fxp0 in this case is the on-board NIC of an Intel mobo. >> >> Ideas anyone? >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com >> PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 2 22:02:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [69.147.83.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BBA110656B8; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 22:02:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from opti.dougb.net (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B09AB155B46; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 22:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4F7A21D8.1040604@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 15:02:00 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120218 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Greco References: <201204021843.q32IhPGZ053424@aurora.sol.net> In-Reply-To: <201204021843.q32IhPGZ053424@aurora.sol.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, Mark Felder , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 22:02:07 -0000 On 4/2/2012 11:43 AM, Joe Greco wrote: > As a user, you can't win. If you don't report > a problem, you get criticized. If you report a problem but can't figure > out how to reproduce it, you get criticized. If you can reproduce it > but you don't submit a workaround, you get criticized. If you submit a > workaround but you don't submit a patch, you get criticized. If you > submit a patch but it's not in the preferred format, you get criticized. I'm still not sure what you're taking as criticism. Nothing I've said was intended that way, nor should it be read that way. If you feel that you've been criticized by others in the manner you describe, you should probably take it up with them on an individual basis. My experience of FreeBSD as a community is that we tend to be both less critical of users, and less tolerant of it. Especially when compared to other communities that I've interacted with. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 2 22:59:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DAC5106566B; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 22:59:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgreco@aurora.sol.net) Received: from mail2.sol.net (mail2.sol.net [206.55.64.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE45A8FC14; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 22:59:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from aurora.sol.net (IDENT:jgreco@aurora.sol.net [206.55.70.98]) by mail2.sol.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/SNNS-1.04) with ESMTP id q32MxtSF038423; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 17:59:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by aurora.sol.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id q32MxtIx055561; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 17:59:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <201204022259.q32MxtIx055561@aurora.sol.net> To: dougb@FreeBSD.org (Doug Barton) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 17:59:55 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <4F7A21D8.1040604@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, Mark Felder , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 22:59:59 -0000 > On 4/2/2012 11:43 AM, Joe Greco wrote: > > As a user, you can't win. If you don't report > > a problem, you get criticized. If you report a problem but can't figure > > out how to reproduce it, you get criticized. If you can reproduce it > > but you don't submit a workaround, you get criticized. If you submit a > > workaround but you don't submit a patch, you get criticized. If you > > submit a patch but it's not in the preferred format, you get criticized. > > I'm still not sure what you're taking as criticism. Nothing I've said > was intended that way, nor should it be read that way. If you feel that > you've been criticized by others in the manner you describe, you should > probably take it up with them on an individual basis. It certainly seemed to me that > As much as I'm sensitive to your production requirements, realistically > it's not likely that you'll get a helpful result without testing a newer > version. 8.2 came out over a year ago, many many things have changed > since then. was an unwarranted criticism for reasons that I've already explained. Or perhaps this: > And since you can't reliably reproduce the problem, how do you expect us > to? I understand that these sorts of bugs are difficult/annoying, etc. > Been there, done that. Which would appear to be suggesting that either (or possibly both): 1) The reporter has a duty to be able to "reliably reproduce the problem" prior to reporting, and/or 2) That there was some unreasonable expectation on the reporter's part that you were expected to reproduce it. I consider 1) to be ridiculous, as long as the reporter is reasonably willing to work to resolve the issue, that should certainly be good enough, and he's certainly been interactive enough to _my_ comments, and 2) seems to be nowhere in sight in the reporter's comments, but is nonetheless present in your response. Please respect Reply-to. Thanks. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 2 23:49:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A605010656D6 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 23:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timsmith7@yahoo.com) Received: from nm14-vm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm14-vm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DE9C8FC0A for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 23:49:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.70] by nm14.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Apr 2012 23:49:56 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.47] by tm10.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Apr 2012 23:49:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1047.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Apr 2012 23:49:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 84787.28535.bm@omp1047.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 93972 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Apr 2012 23:49:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1333410595; bh=BpEfJhpAMCgfVnUR84Ile+zOBvpSkibQG9cUABa0DkY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=V8kS/ytWBwbe1bF9w2+zOi9DpCeh42y6CL5AD7yzs/owIYUmqBlFJcroB1CX4d7av3RXXIk6IQNWyIbcU3bEJxtT61CgD4y2mo256tFe6EM13Ry5dNy6OKzu1Vrk7jf3T8ipG/uxxuX32/pyO32v3/o+oj4MNCxajiUJBbkJYmc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rHyd35nH5CBNNwJ/vmesToNv5J/vBQ0VIMKLCj0dN3+tw5iXue9znOveuM5QrJ0634ka/3JwI9IGqgXYklnmKb/oxoP0F14MRLuBFdlKGd+j4OaEJlp3yjFAbTBnPYHRCmxzT4oc2umfk9exCCM4BqV3flRRAvUJiOK7lI6OoBE=; X-YMail-OSG: tkHEAgwVM1kfXak2zPMDwngwlffckWlfbosPvFFdfMiBEmd zsC3_xw.K__rzllL8yCcGDr3qx6PzS8cZqyGIsFM.0L_4NQQgzbxl2fd868p Tp9X6ReQdoZUjmiiCamTPSForo2_zJO_yulwRXdGpsOOSoBGE49b1rW4bj2J kvLZkEeheirUHwuayFUd5yXgVGH5GqTJs_bnU1IEwx9H9gE6rvkfrSzJhR9q z8jtsLnfUhDABiT6ojP5TNPF1ajIsDOiRBxUiwTMzcfjvzDWVnfuwPsOA86j o95_uPpIfCEvWGqCBT71GbmR7GfIwRIBNdGTAuaO2HDi9ipV_ZbH2Iktpb0u WzvUFh0qfI2kwP488SuDX6SWvpE6q9SeGHn8Yi.95ir6hQN7tyUW73WPLC9p gUFMKfaVVa6RBauo8oCsBFRGS4Wmtn5DQfSBy84EmpPQGiSn0khD0DX93B8J TXgdWxXub.HvieJOw Received: from [206.108.117.33] by web43136.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 02 Apr 2012 16:49:55 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 Message-ID: <1333410595.90007.YahooMailClassic@web43136.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:49:55 -0700 (PDT) From: tim smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 01:34:49 +0000 Subject: modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 23:49:56 -0000 My us robotics serial modem worked without issue on previous freebsd versio= ns. With 9, user ppp term, I get /dev/cuau0/ device failed to open Suggestions? Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 02:40:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9968C106564A for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 02:40:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51AA18FC16 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 02:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q332dw2M031669; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 20:40:04 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 09:39:38 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <1333410595.90007.YahooMailClassic@web43136.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1333410595.90007.YahooMailClassic@web43136.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201204030939.38901.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: tim smith Subject: Re: modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 02:40:14 -0000 Hi, On Tuesday 03 April 2012 06:49:55 tim smith wrote: > > My us robotics serial modem worked without issue on previous freebsd versions. With 9, user ppp term, I get /dev/cuau0/ device failed to open > > Suggestions? > what does ls /dev say? Is the modem at least seen by FreeBSD? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 06:21:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922411065670 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 06:21:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jameschen@juniper.net) Received: from exprod7og117.obsmtp.com (exprod7og117.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DAFE8FC14 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 06:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from P-EMHUB02-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob117.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT3qW57y0dtR64+4urZYqYiOl9Jvv5cA+@postini.com; Mon, 02 Apr 2012 23:21:33 PDT Received: from emailfehk1.jnpr.net (172.27.128.44) by P-EMHUB02-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.36) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 23:21:13 -0700 Received: from emailhk3.jnpr.net ([172.27.128.45]) by emailfehk1.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 3 Apr 2012 14:21:11 +0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 14:20:59 +0800 Message-ID: <079BB83C1486C245B64B055CF016336A02612843@emailhk3.jnpr.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Questions about Jail Thread-Index: Ac0RYe+B6i5RhVdQTPigxCKzY173sg== X-Priority: 1 Priority: Urgent Importance: high From: James Y Chen To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Apr 2012 06:21:11.0871 (UTC) FILETIME=[F718CCF0:01CD1161] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Questions about Jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 06:21:33 -0000 Hi I think Jail on FreeBSD 8.2 can generate 2 jailed machine using the same version of FreeBSD, for example, on a 8.2 AMD64 Jailer, I can create 2 or more FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 Jailed machine. My question is: can I install other version of FreeBSD on the Jailed environment? If yes, which steps shall I do? Still using make world or other easier way? thanks James Y Chen IT Engineering Juniper Networks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 08:11:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20CB106566B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F2B8FC14 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:11:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q337jCGD088066; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 09:45:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4F7AAA5D.3040604@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 09:44:29 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111229 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Y Chen References: <079BB83C1486C245B64B055CF016336A02612843@emailhk3.jnpr.net> In-Reply-To: <079BB83C1486C245B64B055CF016336A02612843@emailhk3.jnpr.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions about Jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 08:11:27 -0000 2012-04-03 08:20, James Y Chen skrev: > Hi Hello > My question is: can I install other version of FreeBSD on the Jailed > environment? Since all jails use the same kernel I think you can not do that. There has been a lot of changes between versions of freebsd. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 08:12:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06BCA1065672 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:12:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from docteur.blue@gmail.com) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A828FC26 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SEyqe-0004eZ-7N for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 01:12:16 -0700 Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 01:12:16 -0700 (PDT) From: docblue To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1333440736218-5614491.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20120215165738.75518ea9@cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How to prevent gam_server from running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 08:12:17 -0000 Hi, is not a "system-level" service per se : it is not started via a well-defined /etc/rc.d/xxx or /usr/local/etc/rc.d script. Contrary to that, it is a "user-level" service started on-demand by other mechanisms, most often desktop related. Like polkit stuff. Therefore, it is not per se which is responsible for intensive CPU consumption, but rather whatever mechanism services higher in the stack that are launching it on their behalf to monitor files/directories activity. For instance, konqueror, dolphin, as well as many other file-related desktop apps, launch a instance to monitor on their behalf what's going on wherever they are looking at, so they can reflect file/dir changes in (almost) real-time. So they do not do polling themselves. What I did in my system (a PC-BSD running KDE) was to chmod o-rx any executable file related to polkit, akonadi, nepomuk, striggi, virtuoso : find -x / -type f -perm +0111 \( -name '*polkit*' -or -name '*nepomuk*' ... \) -print0 | xargs -0 chmod a-rx {} \; Then I would stop any remaining unnecessary running service. This served quite well for me, and things got much much better, though I never checked wether the apps were happy or not about my violent command. As a buzzy developer, I should confess that I do not care too much at all about most of the desktop apps (be KDE or Gnome), and mostly enjoy resorting to using Firefox, Thunderbird, Libreoffice, Evince and Konsole (I have loved this one for almost a decade) where I run tabs and Vim :) (I mostly never use any file wiewer, konqueror or Dolphin). So your mileage may vary ! In all case, please refrain from applying shutting down the gam_server file itself, or you will end-up having a really unusable system. It's better IMO to apply a fine-grained control wherever and as much as possible, identifying which app uses and decide on a case by case approach what to do. Of course, this is a tedious time-consuming unproductive job, but the price is a smoother system. Cheers, Franck Porcher -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/How-to-prevent-gam-server-from-running-tp5487726p5614491.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 08:15:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5BD6106564A for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:15:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36AA78FC08 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lagv3 with SMTP id v3so6031617lag.13 for ; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 01:15:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=IgyfHVOdBTOXE4kXgAjalimWPwmC8ri6k4uwx6pgKlc=; b=l1o7Y3h9FrV3p5bKXgP3xWg/ohbo44NE9RoMVVeQq7sIqtBdZqmxoZgAh0wKfwmjXF AS162HBTMxgdG1i7mEGnSSYJP6ILUg6Vnu5vJy7rjNMQj8eiRaxWCAtTJGQbAx7IIux8 WJR3qsc3DWbp950xedWCpFhS2ESBF4PViCuF2jwJJ+fhEvlqqYWKtxbizeGHZ80NHM2y mFeH5lTliGCN9LNvcvbo5RAfJdJnzci0brZUSDgpDrwqIMXC5JXCjZpTljxtp8si3+bu m2mIVKrI3Js/7srg5ty/qNinRZtw5Ryd6Wm/M5nAE3FWcW4dzcTLsefHjWfrtoPAclEt 28dA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.112.68 with SMTP id io4mr12938394lab.40.1333440913136; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 01:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.60.69 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 01:15:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <079BB83C1486C245B64B055CF016336A02612843@emailhk3.jnpr.net> References: <079BB83C1486C245B64B055CF016336A02612843@emailhk3.jnpr.net> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 01:15:13 -0700 Message-ID: From: Patrick To: James Y Chen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions about Jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 08:15:15 -0000 While it may work in some cases, it can be a bad idea because jails use the kernel of the host, and it's probably safest if your userland matches the rest. If you want to play with different versions of FreeBSD, you should do so in a virtualized environment. If jails are a good fit for you and you want to easily keep things up to date across jails, I'd take a look at ezjail: http://erdgeist.org/arts/software/ezjail/ Patrick On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:20 PM, James Y Chen wrote: > Hi > > I think Jail on FreeBSD 8.2 can generate 2 jailed machine using the same > version of FreeBSD, for example, on a 8.2 AMD64 Jailer, I can create 2 > or more FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 Jailed machine. > > My question is: can I install other version of FreeBSD on the Jailed > environment? If yes, which steps shall I do? Still using make world or > other easier way? > > thanks > > > James Y Chen > IT Engineering > Juniper Networks > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 08:19:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B35106566C for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:19:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talayeh.asadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33D88FC14 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:19:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbwc18 with SMTP id wc18so6416924obb.13 for ; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 01:19:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=720OyHsOc6jm3sHhLkKRucGMa7NxHxuFeh76EG3DEdw=; b=FR8o66i/xIc1ZJEZH/92GAlWJ1AKoOfLn+IDBXOHWG3TS+HcCEMcVuwyc9FgULwJ0v CtxjUD6HRTF8s0jfcul4Nr71+9zDmDats3oG+RKL9mvVQqsRW80TasE5/CV2+XR8zXA/ bNsX1LabSH0OreDV8Pszk6oGsPcXwYo2bUS37pDiWF5HVFGGrIl5qSJf6C74ynxS79YD /lfRw3LM5hpetWfcHNBzmy1ryEWtAVXMM0POD99m0hgADqJFZbJ3L8BrGXhsIBs+rthH pL5PPr7ZZ6fIpWgR6KTmJJywMSmyKmhSJeW/8oAUd1rI0XND6EIr1393Rn6wIl4jQX6G +hKg== Received: by 10.60.13.37 with SMTP id e5mr17198743oec.70.1333441163374; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 01:19:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: talayeh.asadi@gmail.com Received: by 10.182.68.202 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 01:19:03 -0700 (PDT) From: takCoder Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:49:03 +0430 X-Google-Sender-Auth: T_3ikPcub_QcfajSompnAoB4jqs Message-ID: To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: current pids per tty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tak.official@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 08:19:25 -0000 Hi Everyone, i'm trying to find out a way to list *all* the pids of which running in the background of or as the parent *of the current tty* device my shell file is running on.. is there a quick way to find it out as for commands like tty (for current tty) or whoami (for current user) or i should just grep and sed the output of commands like w or ...? as you may know, W(1)'s output just shows the number of pts devices in its tty column.. so it won't be that easy to grep them all(i'm somehow new in shell scripting as well).. and i need the detailed info about related processes; like FROM or WHAT outputs of w command.. (BTW, i'm trying to write a reporting per-tty shell script for my FreeBSD system..) it would be very kind of you giving me any tips or tricks on this. Thanks in advance Best Regards, takCoder From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 08:58:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8259C1065672 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:58:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gs_stoller@juno.com) Received: from outbound-mail02.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail02.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1285C8FC08 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:58:47 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=juno.com; s=alpha; t=1333443527; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=ep+tXwiQswH+PLWm5k5qs7qHSGfi/oO7AYnRcDXAH28XFtRqIT701ls2LBJm0avDw UywodY09AZU3wv6XlTnfm3xZjTODjwTQLa0tdmOPuMJ+KzY403Miuiz4RfsnPddmpN 3sIiRRGMB0JwInUq+R0PBAdy3DFn+0z5g+vKd4iE= X-UOL-TAGLINE: true Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail02.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.142]) by smtpout02.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABHZXQSAASJQPPA for (sender ); Tue, 3 Apr 2012 01:51:12 -0700 (PST) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: /s5f1SIGSI3+WdnoYQ8yRAJYx3d0ClRrCc5Dco0m7Btg1GoZTQv0/g== Received: (from gs_stoller@juno.com) by webmail02.dca.untd.com (jqueuemail) id R5EDEXM8; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 01:50:21 PDT Received: from [108.21.243.160] by webmail02.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:49:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [108.21.243.160] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "gs_stoller@juno.com" Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:49:55 GMT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Message-Id: <20120403.044955.25054.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 X-UNTD-BodySize: 1547 X-ContentStamp: 3:4:3473993183 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.171.12.142|webmail02.dca.untd.com|outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com|gs_stoller@juno.com Cc: victor.minichiello@verizon.net Subject: booting a CD-ROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 08:58:48 -0000 I have an old FreeBSD system that I haven't used for a long time= and I have forgotten the passwords. This machine has FreeBSD-4.3 and= FreeBSD-4.7 on it, and also MS' Windows98 . I tried getting onto t= hat system by booting with a CD-ROM which started going and gave me th= e following messages: boot from ATAPI CD-ROM CD Loader 1.2 Building the boot loader arguments Relocating the loader and the BTX The system then did not output for a liitle over 5 minutes and the= n typed: Starting the and after this I waited for over 5 minutes but the system did not type a= nything else. Then I tried booting that CD-ROM on another system whe= re it booted successfully and the program on it ( FreesBIE version 2) ra= n and I could communicate with it. I suspect a problem with the boot l= oader on the first system. Where can I get a new boot loader for that system? Since I want = to get a modern FreeBSD (version 9.1 or higher), I expect that will in= clude a new multi-system loader on it that I can use on the old system i= f I can load just that. How can I load just the boot loader? Also, wha= t is the structure of the password files (is this on the web with a = per system-version note so if it has been changed over time, I can find = those I need) on those systems, and how can I find and clear out the pas= sword for root so I can get in and set its password and then the other= passwords? 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This machine has FreeBSD-4.3 and FreeBSD-4.7 > on it, and also MS' Windows98 . I tried getting onto that system by booting with a CD-ROM which started going and gave me the following messages: > boot from ATAPI CD-ROM > CD Loader 1.2 > Building the boot loader arguments > Relocating the loader and the BTX > The system then did not output for a liitle over 5 minutes and then typed: > Starting the > and after this I waited for over 5 minutes but the system did not type anything else. Then I tried booting that CD-ROM on another system where it booted > successfully and the program on it ( FreesBIE version 2) ran and I could communicate with it. I suspect a problem with the boot loader on the first system. > Where can I get a new boot loader for that system? Since I want to get a modern FreeBSD (version 9.1 or higher), I expect that will include a new > multi-system loader on it that I can use on the old system if I can load just that. How can I load just the boot loader? Also, what is the structure of the > password files (is this on the web with a per system-version note so if it has been changed over time, I can find those I need) on those systems, and how > can I find and clear out the password for root so I can get in and set its password and then the other passwords? > Thanks in advance for your help. You'll have to wait some months for FreeBSD >= 9.1. Current release is 9.0. I believe FreeBSD has a multisystem boot loader, BootEasy/boot0. You can also look to GRUB: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub I believe this is also included in FreeBSD ports collection. If you run Linux, you can install LILO, which is capable of booting FreeBSD. I believe the password files, /etc/master.passwd, are encrypted, so you can't get the password directly from that. You would run the command passwd as root. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 10:05:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF06E106566B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 10:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xavierfreebsdquestions@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877E48FC0C for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 10:05:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhgm50 with SMTP id m50so1911076yhg.13 for ; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 03:05:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=wSllXYy/O1KHqxnWBfGKMkkwuVCIPdTINExRqREiaKU=; b=b2OtvTPj7dBNIE5W2FQegLCKHC8SZTJxWRPEwVEQo5kxlM6An7wni8QRS8jev+POEA LnIq2IxVcl2DNESUuHAyr10eY7OxLuSIJIXDk6ryq9V8ykXOrNzV4IrBb9epormBDAF9 ff/E9q+cL+l6V4KaTUFvbcXUyGjsgSJKx+EBNIV9eD3IpDTc8N+Tv5xrLzQDTJEwYNRt TLOC2PV3IQ8SxM4SHr0wXeCfmQp6jvVOgJLZWR7hz1ijIZyM5cUFLvmg0FBBxVp1+UWU YxVCxQMIchreCS1A2WObbyQOOnRkkYU92F/OMPi5MucnNjmlMfVBOYv+7piBg65Hpr4m xo/w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.245.4 with SMTP id s4mr3156171anh.8.1333447546743; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 03:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.147.35.3 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 03:05:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <14.50.19145.CE6CA7F4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> References: <20120403.044955.25054.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com> <14.50.19145.CE6CA7F4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:05:46 +0200 Message-ID: From: Xavier FreeBSD questions To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: booting a CD-ROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 10:05:47 -0000 On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 05:46:20AM -0400, Thomas Mueller wrote: Hi Thomas, > > I have an old FreeBSD system that I haven't used for a long time and I have forgotten the passwords. This machine has FreeBSD-4.3 and FreeBSD-4.7 > > on it, and also MS' Windows98 . I tried getting onto that system by booting with a CD-ROM which started going and gave me the following messages: > > boot from ATAPI CD-ROM > > CD Loader 1.2 > > Building the boot loader arguments > > Relocating the loader and the BTX > > The system then did not output for a liitle over 5 minutes and then typed: > > Starting the > > and after this I waited for over 5 minutes but the system did not type anything else. Then I tried booting that CD-ROM on another system where it booted > > successfully and the program on it ( FreesBIE version 2) ran and I could communicate with it. I suspect a problem with the boot loader on the first system. > > Where can I get a new boot loader for that system? Since I want to get a modern FreeBSD (version 9.1 or higher), I expect that will include a new > > multi-system loader on it that I can use on the old system if I can load just that. How can I load just the boot loader? Also, what is the structure of the > > password files (is this on the web with a per system-version note so if it has been changed over time, I can find those I need) on those systems, and how > > can I find and clear out the password for root so I can get in and set its password and then the other passwords? > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > You'll have to wait some months for FreeBSD >= 9.1. Current release is 9.0. I'm impatient ... > > I believe FreeBSD has a multisystem boot loader, BootEasy/boot0. You can also look to GRUB: > > http://www.gnu.org/software/grub Another option is Boot-Repair-Disk ( http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/ ). This tool is easy and intuitive. See you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 10:22:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54ACC106564A for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 10:22:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ahmed@aossama.net) Received: from smtp.aossama.net (smtp.master-zone.net [196.218.210.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3AE38FC12 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 10:22:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.aossama.net (unknown [192.168.0.203]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ahmed) by smtp.aossama.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4157E3EA6 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:12:56 +0200 (GMT-2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 12:12:56 +0200 From: Ahmed Ossama To: Message-ID: X-Sender: ahmed@aossama.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.5.1 Cc: Subject: Vodafone/Huawei K3770 with usb_modeswitch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 10:22:34 -0000 Hi all, I am trying to get a "Vodafone/Huawei K3770" working on FreeBSD 8.2. When I insert the modem, I find only 2 USB files for it under /dev/usb. # usbconfig -u 7 -a 2 dump_device_desc ugen7.2: at usbus7, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON bLength = 0x0012 bDescriptorType = 0x0001 bcdUSB = 0x0200 bDeviceClass = 0x0000 bDeviceSubClass = 0x0000 bDeviceProtocol = 0x0000 bMaxPacketSize0 = 0x0040 idVendor = 0x12d1 idProduct = 0x14d1 bcdDevice = 0x0102 iManufacturer = 0x0002 iProduct = 0x0001 iSerialNumber = 0x0000 bNumConfigurations = 0x0001 # file /dev/usb/7.2* /dev/usb/7.2.0: character special /dev/usb/7.2.15: character special I am using usb_modeswitch to activate the modem. # usb_modeswitch -v 0x12d1 -p 0x14d1 -c 12d1\:14d1 Looking for target devices ... No devices in target mode or class found Looking for default devices ... found matching product ID adding device Found device in default mode, class or configuration (1) Accessing device 012 on bus 000 ... Getting the current device configuration ... OK, got current device configuration (1) Using first interface: 0x00 Using endpoints 0x0f (out) and 0x8f (in) Inquiring device details; driver will be detached ... Cant't do driver detection and detaching on this platform. SCSI inquiry data (for identification) ------------------------- Vendor String: Vodafone Model String: CD ROM (Huawei) Revision String: 2.31 ------------------------- USB description data (for identification) ------------------------- Manufacturer: HUAWEI Product: Vodafone Mobile Broadband (Huawei) Serial No.: not provided ------------------------- Setting up communication with interface 0 Using endpoint 0x0f for message sending ... Trying to send message 1 to endpoint 0x0f ... OK, message successfully sent Resetting response endpoint 0x8f Resetting message endpoint 0x0f -> Run lsusb to note any changes. Bye. The contents of 12d1:14d is: TargetVendor=0x12d1 TargetProduct=0x14c9 MessageContent="55534243123456780000000000000011062000000100000000000000000000" After I issue the command, I could see more devices added to /dev/usb and the Product ID changes accordingly. # usbconfig -u 7 -a 2 dump_device_desc ugen7.2: at usbus7, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON bLength = 0x0012 bDescriptorType = 0x0001 bcdUSB = 0x0200 bDeviceClass = 0x0000 bDeviceSubClass = 0x0000 bDeviceProtocol = 0x0000 bMaxPacketSize0 = 0x0040 idVendor = 0x12d1 idProduct = 0x14c9 bcdDevice = 0x0102 iManufacturer = 0x0003 iProduct = 0x0002 iSerialNumber = 0x0000 bNumConfigurations = 0x0001 # file /dev/usb/7.2* /dev/usb/7.2.0: character special /dev/usb/7.2.10: character special /dev/usb/7.2.11: character special /dev/usb/7.2.12: character special /dev/usb/7.2.13: character special /dev/usb/7.2.14: character special /dev/usb/7.2.15: character special /dev/usb/7.2.9: character special After that I did dmesg, but I see the device to be detected as a umass storage. # dmesg | tail umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0000 umass0:0:0:-1: Attached to scbus0 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 40.000MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present I found out that under linux the "usbserial" module is unloaded then loaded using: # modprobe usbserial vendor=0x12d1 product=0x14c9 But I don't know how to do that under FreeBSD. I have no clue what to do, and any help is very much appreciated. --- Best Regards, Ahmed Ossama From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 10:27:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF51C106566B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 10:27:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798FF8FC08 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 10:27:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SF0xY-00088F-B0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 12:27:32 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.99.96]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 12:27:32 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 12:27:32 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 06:27:26 -0400 Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <079BB83C1486C245B64B055CF016336A02612843@emailhk3.jnpr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: Questions about Jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 10:27:39 -0000 James Y Chen wrote: > Hi > > I think Jail on FreeBSD 8.2 can generate 2 jailed machine using the same > version of FreeBSD, for example, on a 8.2 AMD64 Jailer, I can create 2 > or more FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 Jailed machine. > > My question is: can I install other version of FreeBSD on the Jailed > environment? If yes, which steps shall I do? Still using make world or > other easier way? In many respects a Jail is more like a super-duper chroot, as opposed to other virtualization technologies such as VMWare, Xen, or KVM hypervisor(s). The closest parallel is probably Solaris Containers, if you are familiar with Solaris. There will only be one running kernel at the heart of a jail based machine. So the bottom line short answer to your question is basically "no". Possibly you may wish to read this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails-intro.html -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 10:42:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0201E1065673; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 10:42:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milu@dat.pl) Received: from jab.dat.pl (dat.pl [80.51.155.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB3C8FC14; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 10:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jab.dat.pl (jsrv.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4190AB2; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:34:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dat.pl Received: from jab.dat.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (jab.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id cFPAjE5AGs0t; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:34:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from snifi.localnet (unknown [212.69.68.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F02E326; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:34:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Maciej Milewski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 12:34:19 +0200 Message-ID: <6506050.laFrBWmVCt@snifi> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.0 (Linux/3.2.13-1-ARCH; KDE/4.8.1; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Ahmed Ossama , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vodafone/Huawei K3770 with usb_modeswitch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 10:42:58 -0000 Dnia wtorek, 3 kwietnia 2012 12:12:56 Ahmed Ossama pisze: > # dmesg | tail > umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0000 > umass0:0:0:-1: Attached to scbus0 > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not > present) > cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 > cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device > cd0: 40.000MB/s transfers > cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present try loading u3g module first. If that doesn't work then simple ejecting the cdrom should help: cdcontrol -f /dev/cd0 eject For long term solution there should be a patch for the u3g module. Please look in u3g.c file for similar solutions, there should be a few of them. > I found out that under linux the "usbserial" module is unloaded then > loaded using: > > # modprobe usbserial vendor=0x12d1 product=0x14c9 > > But I don't know how to do that under FreeBSD. > > I have no clue what to do, and any help is very much appreciated. > > --- > Best Regards, > Ahmed Ossama -- Pozdrawiam, Maciej Milewski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 10:42:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0201E1065673; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 10:42:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milu@dat.pl) Received: from jab.dat.pl (dat.pl [80.51.155.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB3C8FC14; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 10:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jab.dat.pl (jsrv.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4190AB2; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:34:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dat.pl Received: from jab.dat.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (jab.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id cFPAjE5AGs0t; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:34:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from snifi.localnet (unknown [212.69.68.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F02E326; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:34:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Maciej Milewski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 12:34:19 +0200 Message-ID: <6506050.laFrBWmVCt@snifi> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.0 (Linux/3.2.13-1-ARCH; KDE/4.8.1; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Ahmed Ossama , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vodafone/Huawei K3770 with usb_modeswitch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 10:42:58 -0000 Dnia wtorek, 3 kwietnia 2012 12:12:56 Ahmed Ossama pisze: > # dmesg | tail > umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0000 > umass0:0:0:-1: Attached to scbus0 > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not > present) > cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 > cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device > cd0: 40.000MB/s transfers > cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present try loading u3g module first. If that doesn't work then simple ejecting the cdrom should help: cdcontrol -f /dev/cd0 eject For long term solution there should be a patch for the u3g module. Please look in u3g.c file for similar solutions, there should be a few of them. > I found out that under linux the "usbserial" module is unloaded then > loaded using: > > # modprobe usbserial vendor=0x12d1 product=0x14c9 > > But I don't know how to do that under FreeBSD. > > I have no clue what to do, and any help is very much appreciated. > > --- > Best Regards, > Ahmed Ossama -- Pozdrawiam, Maciej Milewski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 11:04:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE5F106566B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 11:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B6F8FC0C for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 11:04:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SF1XM-000509-BV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:04:32 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.99.96]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:04:32 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:04:32 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 07:04:28 -0400 Lines: 64 Message-ID: References: <20120403.044955.25054.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: booting a CD-ROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 11:04:37 -0000 gs_stoller@juno.com wrote: > I have an old FreeBSD system that I haven't used for a long time > and I have forgotten the passwords. This machine has FreeBSD-4.3 > and FreeBSD-4.7 on it, and also MS' Windows98 . I tried getting > onto that system by booting with a CD-ROM which started going and > gave me the following messages: > boot from ATAPI CD-ROM > CD Loader 1.2 > Building the boot loader arguments > Relocating the loader and the BTX > The system then did not output for a liitle over 5 minutes and then > typed: > Starting the > and after this I waited for over 5 minutes but the system did not type > anything else. Then I tried booting that CD-ROM on another system > where it booted successfully and the program on it ( FreesBIE version 2) > ran and I could communicate with it. I suspect a problem with the boot > loader on the first system. > Where can I get a new boot loader for that system? Since I want to > get a modern FreeBSD (version 9.1 or higher), I expect that will > include a new multi-system loader on it that I can use on the old > system if I can load just that. How can I load just the boot loader? > Also, what is the structure of the password files (is this on the > web with a per system-version note so if it has been changed over > time, I can find those I need) on those systems, and how can I find > and clear out the password for root so I can get in and set its > password and then the other passwords? > Thanks in advance for your help. You did not specify which/what version of FreeBSD CD-ROM you were attempting this with. IIRC way back then bootable CDs used a floppy-emulation mechanism. If the hardware and its' BIOS is that old a modern day boot CD won't work as it is not emulating a floppy disk any longer. Your best bet would be to locate a FreeBSD version 4.7 disk and try that. A long time ago there used to be included 2 floppy images that could be written out to floppy disks, thus creating bootable floppies. In lieu of not being able to boot from CD-ROM if there is a 1.44MB floppy drive in the box you may be able to boot off the floppies. I'm a little rusty with dim memories, but essentially you want to boot into single user mode. I think it used to be you'd break into the loader by hitting the space bar during the the little "twirlie" period when a '/' is spinning in the upper left corner of your screen. You would need some basic familiarity with vi such as how to do a basic edit and then save the file. Essentially what vipw does is open the password file using vi as the editor. You could then null out the root password by replacing the crypto string in the second field with a * character. When you save the file using vi commands and exit you will see a message about the password database being updated. This is actually a FAQ: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#FORGOT-ROOT-PW Note the instructions for mounting / read-write, and the mount -a. The vipw lives in /usr/sbin, so /usr needs to be mounted in order to use it. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 11:30:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5269F106566B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 11:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0228FC20 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 11:30:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id q33BUqNQ046711 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 04:30:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id q33BUqiC046710 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 04:30:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA21821; Tue, 3 Apr 12 04:23:19 PDT Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 11:22:24 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4f7b3fe0.PWM597T4KrLqJxhq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4F75D37C.2020203@lovetemple.net> <20120330232307.41e420b1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4f7770b7.BkVKquuSmumStBb/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120401112923.47e6c8a7.freebsd@edvax.de> <4f79c113.4NFuCWPOnCnPln6u%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120402073303.1ae0ea96@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120402073303.1ae0ea96@scorpio> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Printer recommendation please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 11:30:53 -0000 Jerry wrote: > Obviously you are not aware of the latest trend towards the > movement to standardize PDF as the standard print format. I would > recommend you start by reading the documentation located at: > > and continue on from there. That page seems to be concerned with using PDF, rather than PS, as a common intermediate print language in CUPS. I see nothing there relevant to sending PDF directly to a printer. > While there might be some rational for your security concerns on > a business network in regards to wireless networks, they are not > really relevant on a home networks. The simple ease of use that a > wireless network gives a user on a home network far outweigh any > pseudo claims of espionage. Following that line of reasoning to its logical conclusion would lead one to believe that home networks have no need of any malware protection, e.g. anti-virus. Any ISP which has had to deal with incidents precipitated by customers' infected machines -- including but likely not limited to DDoS and spambots -- would likely disagree. > Furthermore, there are means of encrypting print data ... Utterly irrelevant to the topic under discussion, which is the additional malware exposure that a PDF-accepting printer has relative to a printer that accepts only PCL and/or PS. I maintain that an attacker can more easily trick a less-than- paranoid user into sending a malware "print file" to a PDF-accepting printer than to a non-PDF-accepting printer, simply because PDF is such a commonly used distribution format. If someone prints a malware "PDF" file that they have downloaded, and the process of printing it does not require that it be transformed in any way (such as conversion to PS) before being sent to the printer, their only protection from disaster is whatever validation may be built into the printer itself. (Keep in mind that what started the malware discussion was Poly's link to a report stating that some printers do not sufficiently validate an "update firmware" job.) Granted the identical exposure exists for a PS printer if the downloaded malware file is identified as a PS file, however the risk is much less in practice because distribution of PS files is sufficiently uncommon that most unsophisticated users would have no idea what to do with one if they were to come across it. > By the way, since you seem so concerned over your printers security, > I assume that you all ready have it at least password protected. No need. I have no wireless at all -- everything is hardwired -- and I trust my firewall. There's no way for anyone to either sniff or inject anything from outside (i.e. without physical access to the network on the secure side of the firewall). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 11:47:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3775106564A for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 11:47:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646828FC1A for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 11:47:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 16B1C5C2A for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 22:00:37 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F7AE334.60101@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 21:47:00 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F75D37C.2020203@lovetemple.net> <20120330232307.41e420b1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4f7770b7.BkVKquuSmumStBb/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120401112923.47e6c8a7.freebsd@edvax.de> <4f79c113.4NFuCWPOnCnPln6u%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120402073303.1ae0ea96@scorpio> <4f7b3fe0.PWM597T4KrLqJxhq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <4f7b3fe0.PWM597T4KrLqJxhq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Printer recommendation please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 11:47:07 -0000 On 04/04/12 04:22, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Jerry wrote: > >> By the way, since you seem so concerned over your printers security, >> I assume that you all ready have it at least password protected. > No need. I have no wireless at all -- everything is hardwired -- > and I trust my firewall. There's no way for anyone to either sniff > or inject anything from outside (i.e. without physical access to > the network on the secure side of the firewall). And of course you can't login to firewall from the internet, and therefore no CE devices exposed. This then allows you to concentrate on what happens inside your network, without worrying about outside forces getting in without your knowledge. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x68sm58227511yhi.19.2012.04.03.05.40.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 03 Apr 2012 05:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3VMVJ54wgcz2CG5d for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:40:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:40:05 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120403084005.576af98e@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4f7b3fe0.PWM597T4KrLqJxhq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4F75D37C.2020203@lovetemple.net> <20120330232307.41e420b1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4f7770b7.BkVKquuSmumStBb/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120401112923.47e6c8a7.freebsd@edvax.de> <4f79c113.4NFuCWPOnCnPln6u%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120402073303.1ae0ea96@scorpio> <4f7b3fe0.PWM597T4KrLqJxhq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm/wp/W8cylic24Oqelz47NwFOnscXx85d0eHNiaICInJEfxnICMbEZ/nYgUOmDUqlcp/Us Subject: Re: Printer recommendation please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 12:40:09 -0000 On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 11:22:24 -0700 perryh@pluto.rain.com articulated: > Jerry wrote: > > > Obviously you are not aware of the latest trend towards the > > movement to standardize PDF as the standard print format. I would > > recommend you start by reading the documentation located at: > > > > and continue on from there. > > That page seems to be concerned with using PDF, rather than PS, as > a common intermediate print language in CUPS. I see nothing there > relevant to sending PDF directly to a printer. PDF is slowly, but surely, becoming the default printing format on several operating systems. A relatively quick check will reveal that more and more manufacturers are now starting to natively support this print format. > > While there might be some rational for your security concerns on > > a business network in regards to wireless networks, they are not > > really relevant on a home networks. The simple ease of use that a > > wireless network gives a user on a home network far outweigh any > > pseudo claims of espionage. > > Following that line of reasoning to its logical conclusion would > lead one to believe that home networks have no need of any malware > protection, e.g. anti-virus. Any ISP which has had to deal with > incidents precipitated by customers' infected machines -- including > but likely not limited to DDoS and spambots -- would likely disagree. Your line of reasoning has somehow gotten totally sidetracked. At no point did I state that NO security measures were ever need. Obviously, everyone needs to establish a certain security baseline for his/her system. Whether or not that system is wireless or hard wired makes absolutely no difference. In fact, I might make a case that it is easier to navigate a hard wired system as opposed to a wireless one since most hard wired systems do not require passwords or certificates to access various components of said system. You stated further on that you have no password or certificate protection on your system. One grenade and you all die. > > Furthermore, there are means of encrypting print data ... > > Utterly irrelevant to the topic under discussion, which is > the additional malware exposure that a PDF-accepting printer > has relative to a printer that accepts only PCL and/or PS. FROM YOUR ORIGINAL POST: "All the more reason to avoid wireless. (I had been thinking more along the lines of someone intercepting sensitive print files, e.g. tax returns, as they were being sent to the printer.)" I again restate my original statement that there exists means of encrypting data sent to a printer. Whether or not you choose to employ them is your business. Requiring security certificates to access the printer offers even greater protection. > I maintain that an attacker can more easily trick a less-than- > paranoid user into sending a malware "print file" to a PDF-accepting > printer than to a non-PDF-accepting printer, simply because PDF > is such a commonly used distribution format. If someone prints a > malware "PDF" file that they have downloaded, and the process of > printing it does not require that it be transformed in any way (such > as conversion to PS) before being sent to the printer, their only > protection from disaster is whatever validation may be built into > the printer itself. (Keep in mind that what started the malware > discussion was Poly's link to a report stating that some printers > do not sufficiently validate an "update firmware" job.) And some do. It is a constantly moving target. You make a better mouse trap, they make a better mouse. It is the degree of paranoia that you are willing to live with. If the user spends his/her time visiting porno sites, then they can reasonably expect to be infected with a malignant file. It is virtually impossible to protect someone from their own bad habits. Please, don't waste your time with the, "I caught it from a toilet seat" explanation. While you could get infected spending a day in the Smithsonian Institution, your odds greatly increase if you spend it in a whore house. > Granted the identical exposure exists for a PS printer if the > downloaded malware file is identified as a PS file, however the > risk is much less in practice because distribution of PS files > is sufficiently uncommon that most unsophisticated users would > have no idea what to do with one if they were to come across it. By your own words, the problem exists. The question here is the degree of exposure. > > By the way, since you seem so concerned over your printers security, > > I assume that you all ready have it at least password protected. > > No need. I have no wireless at all -- everything is hardwired -- > and I trust my firewall. There's no way for anyone to either sniff > or inject anything from outside (i.e. without physical access to > the network on the secure side of the firewall). "Don't worry Captain Smith, this ship can't sink." On a serous note, I have spent the last 12 hours, more or less, checking with my friends and business associates. Not a single one has ever had or knows of a single incident of anyone actually ever being infected or having suffered any negative reaction to having printed a PDF file. Most, but not all of these friends / associates are Microsoft users; however, that should not invalidate the statistics. In fact, the FOSS society claims MS is more vulnerable to infections/hijacking then they are. Therefore, if Microsoft is not being vigorously attacked by this phantom menace, perhaps, just perhaps, it is being blown way out of proportion. The original PDF code was written years ago. Since about 2006 hackers have started finding vulnerabilities in it. There was one that attacked scanned documents in MS Office. That problems was fixed over two years ago. Virtually all PDF attacks now target Web Browsers. A case can be made that viewing PDF files in a Web Browser is far more likely to infect a machine than printing such document ever could. Whether or not you choose to print a PDF file, embrace wireless technology, etcetera means a rat's ass to me. However, spreading FUD is another matter. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 12:47:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2847106564A for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:47:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7548FC1C for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.40]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129A73CBD6; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 14:47:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q33Clc48001925; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 14:47:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 14:47:38 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Erich Dollansky Message-Id: <20120403144738.778c8921.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201204030939.38901.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> References: <1333410595.90007.YahooMailClassic@web43136.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <201204030939.38901.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tim smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 12:47:41 -0000 On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 09:39:38 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Tuesday 03 April 2012 06:49:55 tim smith wrote: > > > > My us robotics serial modem worked without issue on previous freebsd versions. With 9, user ppp term, I get /dev/cuau0/ device failed to open > > > > Suggestions? > > > what does > > ls /dev > > say? > > Is the modem at least seen by FreeBSD? Erm... "seen by FreeBSD"? I have never noticed something like that. The OS "sees" the _serial port_ devices and assigns a device in /dev, but the modem itself does not cause any further action. I've been using an Elsa Microlink serial modem in the past. By the time the serial subsystem in FreeBSD changed, I didn't use it anymore, but I assume /dev/cuau0, /dev/cuau0.init and /dev/cuau0.lock should be present when the serial port is configured correctly. See "man 4 sio" for details. A ppp "session protocol" would also be interesting for diagnosis purposes. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 13:30:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E3D106564A for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 13:30:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8BCB8FC14 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 13:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.40]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ACB21E834 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:30:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q33DUdZu002024 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:30:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:30:39 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20120403153039.55a7f5d5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120403084005.576af98e@scorpio> References: <4F75D37C.2020203@lovetemple.net> <20120330232307.41e420b1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4f7770b7.BkVKquuSmumStBb/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120401112923.47e6c8a7.freebsd@edvax.de> <4f79c113.4NFuCWPOnCnPln6u%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120402073303.1ae0ea96@scorpio> <4f7b3fe0.PWM597T4KrLqJxhq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120403084005.576af98e@scorpio> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Printer recommendation please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:30:47 -0000 On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:40:05 -0400, Jerry wrote: > On a serous note, I have spent the last 12 hours, more or less, > checking with my friends and business associates. Not a single one has > ever had or knows of a single incident of anyone actually ever being > infected or having suffered any negative reaction to having printed a > PDF file. Most, but not all of these friends / associates are Microsoft > users; however, that should not invalidate the statistics. That might be a problem: Malicious acts take place in the background. The time where a virus would pop a "funny message" on the screen are long over. In "Windows" land, there are limited resources for means of diagnostics and troubleshooting. Many people believe (and please take that word seriously) that they "have no virus", and if you bring a laptop with a traffic scanner (e. g. Wireshark, ex Ethereal), you can see scary things happen on their network. In worst case, the police rushes in, takes all the PCs, and the sloppy explaination they give is: "We're investigating a case of copyright infringement, we suspect your PCs being an active sharepoint of copyrighted material." While "Windows" and its programs presents lots of bells & whistles to the user, there's no real chance to find out what's _really_ happening behind that curtain. There are _tons_ of programs out there that can be considered "snake oil" in regards of security. "Windows" users know 'em, many of them use 'em. I can imagine if PDF printers spread more and more, they become more interesting to attackers, and malware like "Professional Printer Anti-Malware Check XXL Super High Security Programs" will spread, waiting for the poor-minded victims to run them, and BANG! printer pwn'd. This is the _first_ step into turning a corporate network into a botnet. If the attacker is able to "hide inside" a printer, it's much easier for him to do "sniper attacks" with precision as he is in control of a full-featured networking devices that nobody recognizes... or verifies. Running virus scans, malware scans and so on on "Windows" PCs has become standard by the majority of its users. Printers are not concerned here, and maybe there are no proper tools available to do the pending tests. Applying that consideration to PDF files, virus scanners would have to check them before they are sent to the printer. > In fact, the > FOSS society claims MS is more vulnerable to infections/hijacking > then they are. This is due to its usage share. I believe if Linux (for example) would run on 90% of home PCs, attackers would concentrate their activities on that platform. Given the statement that the platform is more secure in a technical way (by design and implementation), attackers would potentially try to access the weakest part: the user. This kind of attack is different from those that work in a technical way (e. g. overwriting a printer's firmware silently and secretly), because it does not depend on technical vulnerabilities in the first place. FOSS or not, people have to understand that security is not a static thing, it's a process that involves _them_ to act. A Linux server with telnet enabled and empty root password is as dangerous as a "Windows" PC in a corporate network. Now there's something interesting "hidden": Let's say a malicious file is sent to the printer to compromise it. It's send from a Linux workstation. Will Linux (to keep this example) have to contain a kind of "PDF virus scanner" by default? Take into mind what I said about "behind the curtain". When a printer is compromised, and it acts maliciously within a Linux environment that is poorly secured, I agree with your statement that using a FOSS system does not imply security per se. > The original PDF code was written years ago. Since about 2006 hackers > have started finding vulnerabilities in it. That's a well-known fact in IT security. As I said, it's up to the manufacturers to properly deal with the security issues as good as possible. If they _can_ remove certain attack vectors for example by ignoring specific sections of PDF data, it would be a benefit for security without actually reducing functionality. It starts beginning complicated if there is a feature that is needed which can be used _against_ the system. Maybe data validation can help here... > There was one that attacked > scanned documents in MS Office. That problems was fixed over two years > ago. Virtually all PDF attacks now target Web Browsers. A case can be > made that viewing PDF files in a Web Browser is far more likely to > infect a machine than printing such document ever could. Yes, that approach is welcome to attackers as it allows them to take over a full-featured "Windows" PC within seconds - the user just has to visit a certain web page. By "auto-open magic" of certain MUAs it's even easier to accomplish. Attacking a printer, however, is much more silent. Why? Because nobody CARES. Printers are not in the scope of security. Does anyone imagine to run a virus check on a printer? Does the firmware have the latest manufacturer patches? Is there a password in the administration interface? What traffic is running across the printer? While many sysadmins (even in MICROS~1 environments) are aware of checking and cleaning (and reinstalling) the "Windows" PCs frequently, the things "hidden" in the printer are often left out. So right after cleaning the PCs, the network could be "re-initialized" by an attacker who "lives inside" the printer. After all, I think social engineering based attacks will become much more popular than addressing printers. I do _not_ say to keep ignorant and carry on, but there are higher threats than the PDF-capable laser printer in room 101. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 13:41:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12893106566C for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 13:41:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C9A8FC16 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 13:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.40]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C2C1E50B; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:41:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q33DfIKI002044; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:41:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:41:18 +0200 From: Polytropon To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-Id: <20120403154118.e6b2a873.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4f7b3fe0.PWM597T4KrLqJxhq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4F75D37C.2020203@lovetemple.net> <20120330232307.41e420b1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4f7770b7.BkVKquuSmumStBb/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120401112923.47e6c8a7.freebsd@edvax.de> <4f79c113.4NFuCWPOnCnPln6u%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120402073303.1ae0ea96@scorpio> <4f7b3fe0.PWM597T4KrLqJxhq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Printer recommendation please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:41:20 -0000 On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 11:22:24 -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Jerry wrote: > > > Obviously you are not aware of the latest trend towards the > > movement to standardize PDF as the standard print format. I would > > recommend you start by reading the documentation located at: > > > > and continue on from there. > > That page seems to be concerned with using PDF, rather than PS, as > a common intermediate print language in CUPS. I see nothing there > relevant to sending PDF directly to a printer. See this page: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/pdfasstandardprintjobformat It discusses (quite short, I admit) programs outputting PDF instead of PS when generating printing data. Handing that data over to the printer does not involve any conversion or intermediate formats anymore. The functionality of CUPS would then be "reduced" to what the system's default printer spooler does (and did since the 1970's): Read data from a program and send it to the printer. Only the format of data has changed: pure text, text with control characters, PS, PCL, PDF. It starts at the "application front". > > While there might be some rational for your security concerns on > > a business network in regards to wireless networks, they are not > > really relevant on a home networks. The simple ease of use that a > > wireless network gives a user on a home network far outweigh any > > pseudo claims of espionage. > > Following that line of reasoning to its logical conclusion would > lead one to believe that home networks have no need of any malware > protection, e.g. anti-virus. Any ISP which has had to deal with > incidents precipitated by customers' infected machines -- including > but likely not limited to DDoS and spambots -- would likely disagree. Home networks and carelessly treated corporate networks make the majority of what causes trouble on the Internet. Don't notice == doesn't exist. :-) > I maintain that an attacker can more easily trick a less-than- > paranoid user into sending a malware "print file" to a PDF-accepting > printer than to a non-PDF-accepting printer, simply because PDF > is such a commonly used distribution format. In regards of the web being a main source of attacks, few lines of Javascript would allow to automatically access the printer and send it some PDF data, "drive-by attacks" made simple. > If someone prints a > malware "PDF" file that they have downloaded, and the process of > printing it does not require that it be transformed in any way (such > as conversion to PS) before being sent to the printer, their only > protection from disaster is whatever validation may be built into > the printer itself. (Keep in mind that what started the malware > discussion was Poly's link to a report stating that some printers > do not sufficiently validate an "update firmware" job.) That's why I _hope_ printer manufacturers will take care about that topic. As far as it's _possible_ to validate PDF data that _might_ be a threat, it should be done, and in worst case, "malicious portions" of the data should be ignored. > Granted the identical exposure exists for a PS printer if the > downloaded malware file is identified as a PS file, however the > risk is much less in practice because distribution of PS files > is sufficiently uncommon that most unsophisticated users would > have no idea what to do with one if they were to come across it. Furthermore, PS files would - on most cases - undergo another conversion, for example to PCL. A PS interpreter would have to be exploited to "carry" malicious code from PS to PCL (if the PCL language allows the same kind of hostile manipulation as the PS language would). In this case, FOSS is a good shield. Code that gets many reviews by the _public_ is less prone to contain "backdoors" (phrase incorrectly used) that would allow such "mis"-interpretation. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 13:51:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3EB81065673 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 13:51:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F658FC22 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 13:51:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9B7165C29 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 00:04:37 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F7B0045.2050809@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 23:51:01 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F75D37C.2020203@lovetemple.net> <20120330232307.41e420b1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4f7770b7.BkVKquuSmumStBb/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120401112923.47e6c8a7.freebsd@edvax.de> <4f79c113.4NFuCWPOnCnPln6u%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120402073303.1ae0ea96@scorpio> <4f7b3fe0.PWM597T4KrLqJxhq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120403084005.576af98e@scorpio> <20120403153039.55a7f5d5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120403153039.55a7f5d5.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Printer recommendation please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:51:03 -0000 On 04/03/12 23:30, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:40:05 -0400, Jerry wrote: >> On a serous note, I have spent the last 12 hours, more or less, >> checking with my friends and business associates. Not a single one has >> ever had or knows of a single incident of anyone actually ever being >> infected or having suffered any negative reaction to having printed a >> PDF file. Most, but not all of these friends / associates are Microsoft >> users; however, that should not invalidate the statistics. > That might be a problem: Malicious acts take place in the > background. The time where a virus would pop a "funny message" > on the screen are long over. In "Windows" land, there are > limited resources for means of diagnostics and troubleshooting. > Many people believe (and please take that word seriously) > that they "have no virus", and if you bring a laptop with > a traffic scanner (e. g. Wireshark, ex Ethereal), you can > see scary things happen on their network. In worst case, > the police rushes in, takes all the PCs, and the sloppy > explaination they give is: "We're investigating a case of > copyright infringement, we suspect your PCs being an active > sharepoint of copyrighted material." While "Windows" and > its programs presents lots of bells& whistles to the user, > there's no real chance to find out what's _really_ happening > behind that curtain. > > There are _tons_ of programs out there that can be considered > "snake oil" in regards of security. "Windows" users know 'em, > many of them use 'em. I can imagine if PDF printers spread > more and more, they become more interesting to attackers, and > malware like "Professional Printer Anti-Malware Check XXL Super > High Security Programs" will spread, waiting for the poor-minded > victims to run them, and BANG! printer pwn'd. This is the _first_ > step into turning a corporate network into a botnet. If the > attacker is able to "hide inside" a printer, it's much easier > for him to do "sniper attacks" with precision as he is in > control of a full-featured networking devices that nobody > recognizes... or verifies. Running virus scans, malware scans > and so on on "Windows" PCs has become standard by the majority > of its users. Printers are not concerned here, and maybe there > are no proper tools available to do the pending tests. No. A traffic sniffer would be required to intercept traffic and discover any abnormalities. Most sysadmins wouldn't pay much attention, but you can bet it _will_ require a printer technician with training on the model to fix it- firmware usually requires either passworded telnet access or similar, possibly in conjunction with service software only available to the dealer- and may provide yet a whole new market for office machine service. I'd say sysadmins would expect the manufacturer to actually handle this issue. > > Applying that consideration to PDF files, virus scanners > would have to check them before they are sent to the printer. > > > >> In fact, the >> FOSS society claims MS is more vulnerable to infections/hijacking >> then they are. > This is due to its usage share. I believe if Linux (for example) > would run on 90% of home PCs, attackers would concentrate > their activities on that platform. Given the statement that > the platform is more secure in a technical way (by design and > implementation), attackers would potentially try to access the > weakest part: the user. This kind of attack is different from > those that work in a technical way (e. g. overwriting a printer's > firmware silently and secretly), because it does not depend on > technical vulnerabilities in the first place. > > FOSS or not, people have to understand that security is not > a static thing, it's a process that involves _them_ to act. > A Linux server with telnet enabled and empty root password > is as dangerous as a "Windows" PC in a corporate network. > > Now there's something interesting "hidden": Let's say a malicious > file is sent to the printer to compromise it. It's send from > a Linux workstation. Will Linux (to keep this example) have > to contain a kind of "PDF virus scanner" by default? Take > into mind what I said about "behind the curtain". When a printer > is compromised, and it acts maliciously within a Linux environment > that is poorly secured, I agree with your statement that using > a FOSS system does not imply security per se. > Having found a poorly 'written' pdf, I believe a simple pdf2pdf (using gs with similar commands as pdf2ps) will be sufficient to 'clean' the pdf file- or render it harmless. But essentially running through the cups filters (speaking of the general user) will do this I think- easily verified. Incidentally the pdf was written using MS Office, which offers yet another can o' worms. > >> The original PDF code was written years ago. Since about 2006 hackers >> have started finding vulnerabilities in it. > That's a well-known fact in IT security. As I said, it's up > to the manufacturers to properly deal with the security issues > as good as possible. If they _can_ remove certain attack vectors > for example by ignoring specific sections of PDF data, it would > be a benefit for security without actually reducing functionality. > It starts beginning complicated if there is a feature that is > needed which can be used _against_ the system. Maybe data > validation can help here... > > > >> There was one that attacked >> scanned documents in MS Office. That problems was fixed over two years >> ago. Virtually all PDF attacks now target Web Browsers. A case can be >> made that viewing PDF files in a Web Browser is far more likely to >> infect a machine than printing such document ever could. > Yes, that approach is welcome to attackers as it allows them > to take over a full-featured "Windows" PC within seconds - the > user just has to visit a certain web page. By "auto-open magic" > of certain MUAs it's even easier to accomplish. > > Attacking a printer, however, is much more silent. Why? > Because nobody CARES. Printers are not in the scope of > security. Does anyone imagine to run a virus check on a > printer? Does the firmware have the latest manufacturer > patches? Is there a password in the administration interface? > What traffic is running across the printer? While many sysadmins > (even in MICROS~1 environments) are aware of checking and > cleaning (and reinstalling) the "Windows" PCs frequently, > the things "hidden" in the printer are often left out. So > right after cleaning the PCs, the network could be "re-initialized" > by an attacker who "lives inside" the printer. > > After all, I think social engineering based attacks will become > much more popular than addressing printers. I do _not_ say to > keep ignorant and carry on, but there are higher threats than > the PDF-capable laser printer in room 101. :-) > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 14:35:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C391F1065672; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 14:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965D98FC1A; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 14:35:14 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=EZ1D5hTTeJGbe3KfZ0jKKljX/1u8qcNxTqKJA5Itk+0=; b=PkG6J8gIcas3WLWKLc304BjnfKek2NJ6jpvsBjadEecEdgqiOt4yXpKUzIM0EeH0chXn5K084kMyGklzcMUoohLn2CAcMhcaEfQaoDWMRCqJcjyJgbcp/FYYxXZElDvq; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SF4pA-0000zv-IM; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 09:35:13 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1333463702-20726-20725/5/43; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 14:35:02 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 09:35:01 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.62 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 14:35:14 -0000 Guys, The crash on my machine with debugging has evaded me for a few days. I'm still looking for further suggestions of things I should grab from the DDB when it happens again. Thanks for the help everyone! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 15:20:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC25B1065672 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:20:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmarco@giovannelli.it) Received: from freebsd.gimbo.org (freebsd.gimbo.org [83.149.156.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC258FC14 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:20:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gmarco-PC.giovannelli.it (freebsd.giovannelli.com [83.149.149.149]) (authenticated bits=0) by freebsd.gimbo.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q33F8Rtc017130 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:08:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gmarco@giovannelli.it) Message-Id: <201204031508.q33F8Rtc017130@freebsd.gimbo.org> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 17:09:21 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (freebsd.gimbo.org [83.149.156.244]); Tue, 03 Apr 2012 17:08:29 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at freebsd.gimbo.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Looking for commercial Antivir / Antispam for latest freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 15:20:29 -0000 Hi all, I am writing this email for asking if someone can suggest a good commercial product for antivir/antispam that supports the latest FreeBSD release (8.x and 9.x) . Actually we are using BitDefender but it refuses to install in newer release due some compatibility problem with compatx ports. I have tried to check on the net but the search engines give me back only outdated results, products not compatible anymore or linux only based. Some focus points: - It must work on FreeBSD 8.x or newer (better if amd64 too). - It should work as milter interface in sendmail base system. - It should have (but it is not mandatory) a web interface where the admin / users check the results of the activity or the service status. Thanks very much for your tips / inputs / suggestions :-) P.s. I am happily using clamav too and it works great, but my company need also a commercial solution. Best Regards, Gianmarco Giovannelli , "Unix expert since yesterday" http://utenti.gufi.org/~gmarco/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 15:40:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737CD1065698 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:40:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40DCD8FC20 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:40:08 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=Yqk4HISYBL3HwlSdWNS2EZHaEz39XFiCV0HKRSiYoS4=; b=S8UDgC1dRfpdPD+wn8eVDGM1o3ZpQe13WYuvSnSaSB2H9vLCoutf6a3OPTYa81eaiKvS7XGwhGG7MkQaMS8P/x88w3a2Rb1i3mtFOmhwGDZ0WPt6Vk2jrx2ShDJVIrM6CjMnpka+8clPYqxHDwGgt8FR/xA2AH5Vr+ENjK0P7JQ= Received: from [192.168.1.200] ([173.88.198.194]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:39:59 -0700 Message-ID: <4F7B19CE.80401@a1poweruser.com> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 11:39:58 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Y Chen References: <079BB83C1486C245B64B055CF016336A02612843@emailhk3.jnpr.net> In-Reply-To: <079BB83C1486C245B64B055CF016336A02612843@emailhk3.jnpr.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Apr 2012 15:40:00.0082 (UTC) FILETIME=[0777CB20:01CD11B0] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Questions about Jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 15:40:08 -0000 James Y Chen wrote: > Hi > > I think Jail on FreeBSD 8.2 can generate 2 jailed machine using the same > version of FreeBSD, for example, on a 8.2 AMD64 Jailer, I can create 2 > or more FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 Jailed machine. > > My question is: can I install other version of FreeBSD on the Jailed > environment? If yes, which steps shall I do? Still using make world or > other easier way? > > thanks > > > James Y Chen > IT Engineering > Juniper Networks > > > In most cases your jail environment will function ok as long as its the same base release level. Example, host=8.0 jail1=8.1 and jail2=8.2 But host=8.2 and jail1=9.0 will have unknown reliability. Technically there is no checks stopping someone from doing this and from the outside all will look correct, but it will fail and you may lose both the host and jail. There is a system utility called qjail that simplifies jail building. http://qjail.sourceforge.net/ Its in the ports system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 16:33:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F12106564A for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 16:33:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A9948FC0C for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 16:33:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wern13 with SMTP id n13so3218635wer.13 for ; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 09:33:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Tt7LyVnEfJwuF2W3CpjA42LLaMIw+tJrIzt2waqxcrs=; b=s4mmN+P5p07s9rH9W5gNwcmdvoWjRlHR+ewqOA+v5DewC3cJnbWne5tWRdwshVrTj7 WY2tk2BDqa/+SliOVrJFEZdBwyIP0OUoIjbzwdKX0g6sHDyok9UDSnBijrfJUaPwUQdq qco+asQe9v8iLmYeDOeX9B6sw6W0C3HrywLCzCYSGq6+/t3rFT0iYVUIhQs8pffDRKJh ptBtOJJGnspxpcP2jO82m7DiDcevFv23Ws7bEJah91tJ4P183TTBHx4yiA5ouYjaExRV TRxRDW75apDaP/dxUf59G/pMPb+Ni7i0RBpTpJumX1EIG+We9gByKserzxFhS1vXNwJY cUjA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.96.228 with SMTP id dv4mr7878412wib.14.1333470811289; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 09:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.135.95 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 09:33:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:33:31 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: tak.official@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: current pids per tty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 16:33:33 -0000 On 3 April 2012 04:19, takCoder wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > i'm trying to find out a way to list *all* the pids of which running in t= he > background of or as the parent *of the current tty* device my shell file = is > running on.. is there a quick way to find it out as for commands like tty > (for current tty) or whoami (for current user) or i should just grep and > sed the output of commands like w =A0or ...? > > as you may know, W(1)'s output just shows the number of pts devices in it= s > tty column.. so it won't be that easy to grep them all(i'm somehow new in > shell scripting as well).. and i need the detailed info about related > processes; like FROM or WHAT outputs of w command.. (BTW, i'm trying to > write a reporting per-tty shell script for my FreeBSD system..) > > it would be very kind of you giving me any tips or tricks on this. tcsh & sh both have a builtin called "jobs" (there is an executable named /usr/bin/jobs, but . . . well run "cat /usr/bin/jobs" & see for yourself). I dunno if that encompasses everything you want to do. --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 17:23:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F97106564A for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:23:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=4330d07a8=a@jenisch.at) Received: from mgaterz2.oekb.co.at (mgaterz2.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C430B8FC1B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from exchhubcas1.oekb.co.at ([143.245.3.64]) by mgaterz2.oekb.co.at with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 03 Apr 2012 19:22:10 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (143.245.9.16) by internal-relay-exchhubcas1.oekb.co.at (143.245.3.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.339.1; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:22:03 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q33HM3KQ002008 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:22:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q33HM3Q8002007 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:22:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:22:03 +0200 From: Ewald Jenisch To: Message-ID: <20120403172203.GA1808@aurora.oekb.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: make buildkernel -> error: 'IOSIZE_MAX' undeclared X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 17:23:20 -0000 Hi, Today I tried to build a new system/kernel for one of my boxes running FreeBSD9. make buildworld went ok, however during "make buildkernel" I got this: ------------------------------ < Cut here > ------------------------------ /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_uio.c: In function 'uiomove_faultflag': /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_uio.c:194: error: 'TDP_RESETSPUR' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_uio.c:194: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_uio.c:194: error: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_uio.c: In function 'uiomove_frombuf': /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_uio.c:259: error: 'IOSIZE_MAX' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_uio.c: In function 'copyinuio': /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_uio.c:486: error: 'IOSIZE_MAX' undeclared (first use in this function) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. ------------------------------ < Cut here > ------------------------------ Has anybody seen this? Better yet - any known cure against this problem? Please note that I've cvsup-ed the sources right before building the system/kernel, so they should be up to date. I also tried re-cvsuping several times, but the error stays. Thanks much in advance for your help, -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 17:42:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A85106566B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=4330d07a8=a@jenisch.at) Received: from mgaterz1.oekb.co.at (mgaterz1.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCCEE8FC15 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:42:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from exchhubcas2.oekb.co.at ([143.245.3.66]) by mgaterz1.oekb.co.at with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 03 Apr 2012 19:40:52 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (143.245.9.16) by internal-relay-exchhubcas2.oekb.co.at (143.245.3.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.339.1; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:40:52 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q33HepqN003060 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:40:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q33HepTl003059 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:40:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:40:51 +0200 From: Ewald Jenisch To: Message-ID: <20120403174051.GA2540@aurora.oekb.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: IPv6 default-route - gone X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 17:42:02 -0000 Hi, After installing a new machine under FreeBSD9 I discovered that the IPv6-configuration I had in place with FreeBSD8 does no longer work. Here's what I've got in /etc/rc.conf: ipv6_enable="YES" ipv6_ifconfig_em0="2001:76c:2218:2009::11/64" ipv6_defaultrouter="2001:76c:2218:2009::1" The interface address correctly shows up under "ifconfig" however the default route doesn't seem to be installed, so I'm basically cut off the Internet in terms of IPv6. Please note that the above config has worked unser FreeBSD8 - in fact I've got a couple of boxes under FreeBSD8 with this exact same config. Has the IPv6-related config changed from FBSD 8 -> FBSD 9? Thanks much in advance for any help, -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 18:51:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486EE1065672; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 18:51:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23A114ED01; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 18:51:44 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4F7B46C0.5050503@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 11:51:44 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <201204022259.q32MxtIx055561@aurora.sol.net> In-Reply-To: <201204022259.q32MxtIx055561@aurora.sol.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mark Felder , Joe Greco Subject: Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 18:51:45 -0000 On 4/2/2012 3:59 PM, Joe Greco wrote: >> On 4/2/2012 11:43 AM, Joe Greco wrote: >>> As a user, you can't win. If you don't report >>> a problem, you get criticized. If you report a problem but can't figure >>> out how to reproduce it, you get criticized. If you can reproduce it >>> but you don't submit a workaround, you get criticized. If you submit a >>> workaround but you don't submit a patch, you get criticized. If you >>> submit a patch but it's not in the preferred format, you get criticized. >> >> I'm still not sure what you're taking as criticism. Nothing I've said >> was intended that way, nor should it be read that way. If you feel that >> you've been criticized by others in the manner you describe, you should >> probably take it up with them on an individual basis. > > It certainly seemed to me that > >> As much as I'm sensitive to your production requirements, realistically >> it's not likely that you'll get a helpful result without testing a newer >> version. 8.2 came out over a year ago, many many things have changed >> since then. > > was an unwarranted criticism for reasons that I've already explained. Everything in that paragraph is a fact. If you feel criticized when people state facts, I'm not sure how much I can help you. Please note, I didn't say, "You're an idiot for running old stuff." I even explicitly stated that I understood *why* the OP is running an old version. Nevertheless, the facts are what they are. The only way we can deal rationally with the world is to acknowledge reality and deal with it. Wishing it were otherwise isn't really useful. :) > Or perhaps this: > >> And since you can't reliably reproduce the problem, how do you expect us >> to? I understand that these sorts of bugs are difficult/annoying, etc. >> Been there, done that. > > Which would appear to be suggesting that either (or possibly both): > > 1) The reporter has a duty to be able to "reliably reproduce the problem" > prior to reporting, and/or > > 2) That there was some unreasonable expectation on the reporter's part > that you were expected to reproduce it. Quite the contrary, I was responding to your implication that there is some other answer that we should be able to give the OP, other than "Try a newer version." Various people have chimed in on the thread, all have offered suggestions, none of which (AFAICS) have helped. I continue to maintain that the best course of action for the OP would be to try the latest 8-stable. And BTW, there are (at least) 2 reasons for that. First, the bug may actually be fixed. But second, we're in the middle of a release cycle for 8.3 right now. If the bug persists in the latest code it will be easier to get the right eyes onto the problem. That benefits both the OP and the community at large. Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 19:14:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E38106566C; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:14:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC8B8FC0A; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:14:40 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=pML/6Gki5w0H359kRKVBqR0E4EZ0vr566Q9Lns0VR80=; b=Oz26ukOLz6I9cPBGcn6HjBvVwiQiYDAifDuzs6QFxXDvG66NGXOnhl+FucgCTg0kCYZ9SvVeO6EvWwLmHxB3bmalM2Z/2+o+z1Ubht/ej7dVdL86YMnZszQ/XtoNSDyBGVbicG9cIFNhBNr412Zhz44IT+l0Z9Fa9FhbjgsQXx8= Received: from [192.168.1.200] ([173.88.198.194]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:14:41 -0700 Message-ID: <4F7B4C1F.2030803@a1poweruser.com> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 15:14:39 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Apr 2012 19:14:41.0354 (UTC) FILETIME=[054DEAA0:01CD11CE] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: Subject: phpmyadmin port files errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:14:41 -0000 Just downloaded phpmyadmin for 9.0 system. The port files seem to be named wrong. Makefile,v distinfo,v pkg-descr,v pkg-plist-chunk,v make install command issues error message "Don't know how to make install." I see on the web ports system that this port was just updated 5 days ago. Looks like a error was made. These files should not have the ,v suffix. Removing the ,v file name suffix and issuing make install generated a bunch of other error messages. Dead in the water until this gets fixed. If this is indeed an error with the port then I will submit a bug report. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 19:18:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46252106566C; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:18:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@experts-exchange.com) Received: from mail.dw.redsrci.com (mail.pub.dw.redsrci.com [72.29.183.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5FC8FC14; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.dw.redsrci.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.dw.redsrci.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B506F49F0; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:18:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=e-e.com; h= user-agent:organization:in-reply-to:content-disposition :content-type:content-type:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:subject:from:from:date:date:received:received:received; s=ee; t=1333480683; x=1335295083; bh=zGhS9RSfElQQU8MXhRTXqzofZf 9GtJaz+089THBRqQ0=; b=fDi5k9yUdq4zFgdBLkJWPdKIpAC4GxLyD2fW1Ijlio 6QnqLLZ2cwQqt8NHd0srm6jeJEwtLjhsTh+VjA8fkTv91CCc2lDNmWyrDpkkXcM9 kkYpddvqND4xo3E7CJqXybzzoDcCGNMBsePC7nT4cHNQwHvUa42sqbIS26OlvDSi E= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at experts-exchange.com Received: from mail.dw.redsrci.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.dw.redsrci.com (mail.dw.redsrci.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 87-ogrEdXbPO; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from experts-exchange.com (unknown [192.168.103.120]) by mail.dw.redsrci.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DC266F49EA; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (nullmailer pid 80523 invoked by uid 1001); Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:17:05 -0000 Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:17:05 -0700 From: Jason Helfman To: Fbsd8 Message-ID: <20120403191705.GT10540@dormouse.experts-exchange.com> References: <4F7B4C1F.2030803@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F7B4C1F.2030803@a1poweruser.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE amd64 Organization: Experts-Exchange, LLC. http://www.experts-exchange.com X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: phpmyadmin port files errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:18:09 -0000 On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 03:14:39PM -0400, Fbsd8 thus spake: >Just downloaded phpmyadmin for 9.0 system. >The port files seem to be named wrong. >Makefile,v distinfo,v pkg-descr,v pkg-plist-chunk,v > >make install command issues error message "Don't know how to make install." > >I see on the web ports system that this port was just updated 5 days >ago. Looks like a error was made. These files should not have the >,v suffix. Removing the ,v file name suffix and issuing make install >generated a bunch of other error messages. > >Dead in the water until this gets fixed. > >If this is indeed an error with the port then I will submit a bug report. This looks incorrect. I just brought down a fresh copy of this port, and don't see files named this way. How are you getting the port, and how are you installing it? These files look like they are directly out of CVS. -jgh -- Jason Helfman System Administrator experts-exchange.com http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html E4AD 7CF1 1396 27F6 79DD 4342 5E92 AD66 8C8C FBA5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 19:18:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213231065700 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:18:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@growveg.net) Received: from smtp1.servage.net (smtp1.servage.net [IPv6:2a01:3b0:1:fb:1::2001]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC2E78FC08 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.60.16.67] (internet-gw-1.demon.net [194.221.40.148]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp1.servage.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AFCB432516 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:42:33 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4F7B4CF4.6080201@growveg.net> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 20:18:12 +0100 From: John User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.27) Gecko/20120216 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.19 ThunderBrowse/3.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120403174051.GA2540@aurora.oekb.co.at> In-Reply-To: <20120403174051.GA2540@aurora.oekb.co.at> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: IPv6 default-route - gone X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:18:17 -0000 On 03/04/2012 18:40, Ewald Jenisch wrote: > Hi, > > After installing a new machine under FreeBSD9 I discovered that the > IPv6-configuration I had in place with FreeBSD8 does no longer work. > > Here's what I've got in /etc/rc.conf: > ipv6_enable="YES" > ipv6_ifconfig_em0="2001:76c:2218:2009::11/64" > ipv6_defaultrouter="2001:76c:2218:2009::1" > > The interface address correctly shows up under "ifconfig" however the > default route doesn't seem to be installed, so I'm basically cut off > the Internet in terms of IPv6. > > Please note that the above config has worked unser FreeBSD8 - in fact > I've got a couple of boxes under FreeBSD8 with this exact same config. > > Has the IPv6-related config changed from FBSD 8 -> FBSD 9? > > Thanks much in advance for any help, > -ewald Hi, Yeah it's changed in 9. Here's what I have, for autoconfig use with a tunnel: ipv6_network_interfaces="re0" ifconfig_re0_ipv6="inet6 accept_rtadv" ip6addrctl_policy="ipv6_prefer" ...and it works For static I'd have: #ipv6_network_interfaces="re0" #ifconfig_re0_ipv6="my_end_of_tunnel_ipv6_ip prefixlen 64" #ipv6_defaultrouter="their_end_of_tunnel_ipv6_ip" #ip6addrctl_policy="ipv6_prefer" but I've not tried it static yet. -- freebsd at growveg dot net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 20:25:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4E81065670 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:25:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03528FC08 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:25:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q33KJGGP065621; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 22:19:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A24F01234B; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 22:19:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 22:19:15 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: tim smith Message-ID: <20120403201915.GA35092@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <1333410595.90007.YahooMailClassic@web43136.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1333410595.90007.YahooMailClassic@web43136.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 20:25:32 -0000 --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 04:49:55PM -0700, tim smith wrote: >=20 > My us robotics serial modem worked without issue on previous freebsd > versions. With 9, user ppp term, I get /dev/cuau0/ device failed to open * If you have built a custom kernel, check that the kernel config includes the uart device, or that it is loaded as a module. * Does the failure to open list an error number (see 'man errno')? if so, please post it here. * If the error is EPERM or EACCES, check that the ppp process has read/wri= te access to the device. * If there is anything related to the error in your ppp logfile, please po= st it as well. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk97W0MACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWCRQCdHzlKDVkvfhp+XFUV/G6ELFft Rc4AoJr1PaQGB2usDApSQQzfDpYDGVHP =oCVc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 20:47:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97DB106564A for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthewstory@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664FC8FC14 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbmv11 with SMTP id v11so132926vbm.13 for ; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:47:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=gj2unSCVvYoIAF96F3iNYpem4G0WsQv3VvNgSPAlrAQ=; b=RiCSAP/w6o58aNrRvPf3ugUylJgECFVrISBJu2igWWxyom5R3gh865SKc/VVs29yon oNBZFoyapxzFsRYCeOTo9hzCWzPYvglRJ/oQbobweFIT2q/xY6XS78qpl4XUYyLICdXT h56kGnF/57g3ne/OFrfVeXL8VkWoLWhi98v/naVculXkvIdXRYQoGavajlw+yFuNpska xh/2wJpEcXvJP9+pCEjNHr+9zg3q2zUiGl5rY9wGXHt16jv4zKeaEsYVzIR3TvxP0i0h 1DMCNDyyzgkdLmwd103VN1hKEBkSYOXed3RR0uRDVqSxa3N3vSy1/pKJWXAOVboOJslI rJ0A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.38.167 with SMTP id h7mr5545237vdk.109.1333486077643; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.117.66 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 13:47:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 16:47:57 -0400 Message-ID: From: Matthew Story To: "illoai@gmail.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: current pids per tty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 20:47:58 -0000 On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:33 PM, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > On 3 April 2012 04:19, takCoder wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > > i'm trying to find out a way to list *all* the pids of which running in > the > > background of or as the parent *of the current tty* device my shell file > is > > running on.. is there a quick way to find it out as for commands like tty > > (for current tty) or whoami (for current user) or i should just grep and > > sed the output of commands like w or ...? > > > > as you may know, W(1)'s output just shows the number of pts devices in > its > > tty column.. so it won't be that easy to grep them all(i'm somehow new in > > shell scripting as well).. and i need the detailed info about related > > processes; like FROM or WHAT outputs of w command.. (BTW, i'm trying to > > write a reporting per-tty shell script for my FreeBSD system..) > > > > it would be very kind of you giving me any tips or tricks on this. > > tcsh & sh both have a builtin called "jobs" (there is an executable > named /usr/bin/jobs, but . . . well run "cat /usr/bin/jobs" & see for > yourself). I dunno if that encompasses everything you want to do. > Across all TTYs, something like this would probably work: sudo fstat | awk '$5 ~ /^\/dev/ && $8 ~ /tty/ { printf "%s %s %s\n", $1, $8, $3; }' | sort -k1,2 from there, if you think you need to trace the process trees down, you can use this list of pids and ps to do the rest ... hopefully that helps > > -- > -- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- regards, matt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 3 21:13:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C496106566B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:13:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59418FC1B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.40]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4083CE91 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 23:13:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q33LDDMH005534 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 23:13:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 23:13:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20120403231313.6781abcc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: current pids per tty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 21:13:22 -0000 On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 16:47:57 -0400, Matthew Story wrote: > Across all TTYs, something like this would probably work: > > sudo fstat | awk '$5 ~ /^\/dev/ && $8 ~ /tty/ { printf "%s %s %s\n", $1, > $8, $3; }' | sort -k1,2 > > from there, if you think you need to trace the process trees down, you can > use this list of pids and ps to do the rest ... Or use "pstree" from ports. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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LYNXIMGMAP:file://localhost/tmp/tmpYF9Gig.html#cow 4. mailto:webmaster@scbt.com 5. http://www.scbt.com/email_bulletin.php?eid=freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 00:37:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A671065670 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 00:37:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo203.cox.net (eastrmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD538FC08 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 00:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo210.cox.net ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120404003707.SZTA18532.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo210.cox.net>; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:37:07 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.83.206]) by eastrmimpo210.cox.net with bizsmtp id tcd61i00i4T5sES02cd7nq; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 20:37:07 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A02020A.4F7B97B3.00A8,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Zi2uI+LquZqMXpb1fhDBv/rwJwbtur+OSt/42QZjprM= c=1 sm=1 a=RcyhSEpB3QQA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=cRs4AX/51puMaUeRAuoQtw==:17 a=s1O25tkdAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=5zJTAqlClnnpuZl2090A:9 a=89K7nnteOq14v7VY0sIA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=OyOq_G8mXAEA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=cRs4AX/51puMaUeRAuoQtw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q340b5cB089983; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:37:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:37:00 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20120403193700.3d8efa26@cox.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4F76DD24.4060104@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120331135624.GA46283@ozzmosis.com> <20343.7837.796535.407848@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120401073525.1c05bc0f@cox.net> <20344.21184.853321.579064@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120401130201.272897fc@cox.net> <20120401141129.1f94e50e@cox.net> <20120401160653.0a79b997@cox.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Robert Huff , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: using clang (was: Re: ps, clang and make variables) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 00:37:19 -0000 On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 17:57:31 -0600 (MDT) Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > > > On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:11:29 -0500 > > "Conrad J. Sabatier" wrote: > > > >> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 12:29:45 -0600 (MDT) > >> Warren Block wrote: > >>> > >>> Have you tried clang with ccache? Any tricks? > >> > >> No, I haven't tried that. Actually, I don't believe I've ever even > >> tried using ccache at all (at least, not that I can recall). :-) > >> > > > > You've piqued my curiosity here. :-) > > > > I'm doing a buildworld at the moment using ccache with clang. So > > far, all is well, no problems. Didn't do anything special to get > > started, just "ccache make -DNO_CLEAN -j8 buildworld" (I have all > > that clang-enabling stuff already in /etc/make.conf). I know this > > first run won't really show me much, other than that it *will* > > compile OK. Subsequent runs should be interesting, though. :-) > > A few tests earlier today showed that with everything in cache, it > took about 1.5 to 2 times as long to build with clang versus gcc > 4.2.1. It was faster with a full cache than without, of course: > clang took 38 minutes with nothing in cache, about 12 minutes with > everything cached, and gcc buildworlds have been as fast as six > minutes. A gcc all-cached test I just tried was 7:47. > > For some reason, buildworlds on this Core I5 are much faster when > running powerd -a hadp than without. And somewhat variable. Well, unfortunately, I'm unable to do a successful buildworld at the moment, with or without ccache, so the results are still up in the air on that. :-) Will keep trying, though. I *hate* when this happens! :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 00:51:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0B5106564A for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 00:51:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael@thehugheslogcabin.net) Received: from mail1.0web-hosting.com (mail.0web-hosting.com [204.13.154.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 279FC8FC12 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 00:51:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 81963 invoked by uid 399); 4 Apr 2012 00:45:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO logcabin.home.thehugheslogcabin.net) (michael@thehugheslogcabin.net@166.147.68.108) by mail.0web-hosting.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2012 00:45:17 -0000 Received: from TheHughesLogcabin.net (newlog.home.thehugheslogcabin.net [192.168.10.52]) by logcabin.home.thehugheslogcabin.net (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id q340ig2x081602 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:44:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from michael@thehugheslogcabin.net) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:44:37 -0500 From: Michael Hughes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120403194437.4715f03a@TheHughesLogcabin.net> In-Reply-To: <4F7B4C1F.2030803@a1poweruser.com> References: <4F7B4C1F.2030803@a1poweruser.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0cvs30 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-unknown-freebsd7.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/g6KqHxel0+MFgSLziQJw3SV"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: phpmyadmin port files errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 00:51:36 -0000 --Sig_/g6KqHxel0+MFgSLziQJw3SV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 15:14:39 -0400 Fbsd8 wrote: > Just downloaded phpmyadmin for 9.0 system. > The port files seem to be named wrong. > Makefile,v distinfo,v pkg-descr,v pkg-plist-chunk,v >=20 > make install command issues error message "Don't know how to make > install." >=20 > I see on the web ports system that this port was just updated 5 days=20 > ago. Looks like a error was made. These files should not have the > ,v suffix. Removing the ,v file name suffix and issuing make install=20 > generated a bunch of other error messages. >=20 > Dead in the water until this gets fixed. >=20 > If this is indeed an error with the port then I will submit a bug > report.=20 That looks like the version control colloquially files (RCS, CVS, etc..). --=20 Michael Hughes Log Home living is the best Michael@TheHughesLogcabin.net --Sig_/g6KqHxel0+MFgSLziQJw3SV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk97mXoACgkQY1dMyGuHVOy53ACghtR37pf0Voga/6oLl5aBuH6C CGsAn0uwlaD6ggWU1khB1r9pksR3yorb =egS4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/g6KqHxel0+MFgSLziQJw3SV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 03:02:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352571065672 for ; 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: compiling glib20 failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gahn List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 03:02:53 -0000 hi gurus:=0A=0Ai got problem with compiling glib20:=0A=0A=3D=3D=3D>=A0=A0 g= lib-2.28.8_4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.10.1 - found=0A/libexec/= ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/liblzma.so.5: version XZ_5.0 required by /usr/b= in/xz not defined=0A=3D=3D=3D>=A0 Missing license file for LGPL20 in /usr/p= orts/devel/glib20/work/glib-2.28.8/COPYING=0A*** Error code 1=0A=0AStop in = /usr/ports/devel/glib20.=0A*** Error code 1=0A=0A=0Abasically i was trying = to install tshark on freebsd 8.1 but it told me i need to upgrade glib but = i got into this mess.=0A=0Athanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 04:22:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F1D106566B; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 04:22:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5332F8FC0A; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 04:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q344MnnI016167; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 22:22:51 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, gahn Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 11:22:03 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <1333508571.90646.YahooMailNeo@web130204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1333508571.90646.YahooMailNeo@web130204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201204041122.03871.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: compiling glib20 failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 04:22:59 -0000 Hi, when did you update your ports tree? It works here on 8.3 with a ports tree from last week. Erich On Wednesday 04 April 2012 10:02:51 gahn wrote: > hi gurus: > > i got problem with compiling glib20: > > ===> glib-2.28.8_4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.10.1 - found > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/liblzma.so.5: version XZ_5.0 required by /usr/bin/xz not defined > ===> Missing license file for LGPL20 in /usr/ports/devel/glib20/work/glib-2.28.8/COPYING > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/devel/glib20. > *** Error code 1 > > > basically i was trying to install tshark on freebsd 8.1 but it told me i need to upgrade glib but i got into this mess. > > thanks > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 05:25:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702F1106566B for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 05:25:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B6F8FC0C for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 05:25:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [88.217.88.65] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SFIia-0002Do-9h for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 07:25:16 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q345PE6n002898 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 07:25:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id q345PE9S002897 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 07:25:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 07:25:14 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120404052514.GA2840@tinyCurrent> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT r214444 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 88.217.88.65 Subject: Fwd: microSD && ext3 file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 05:25:24 -0000 Hello, I have some trouble with a microSD card (or with the controler) in my Linux based cellphone (Openmoko Freerunner). One of the hints I got is to check the microSD card with a Linux tool badblocks(8) http://linux.die.net/man/8/badblocks As I do not have Linux boxes at home, I looked into our ports with no luck for badblocks... Is there some equivalent in FreeBSD which I could use to check /dev/da0 (as this the microSD is presented in my laptop) for bad 'sectors'? FWIW, I've found as well this very interesting article: https://lwn.net/Articles/428584/ which says for example: «... In contrast, the more common SD cards and USB flash drives are very sensitive to specific access patterns and can show very high latencies for writes unless they are used with the preformatted FAT32 file layout. As an example, a desktop machine using a 16 GB, 25 MB/s CompactFlash card to hold an ext3 root filesystem ended up freezing the user interface for minutes during phases of intensive block I/O, despite having gigabytes of free RAM available. Similar problems often happen on small embedded and mobile machines that rely on SD cards for their file systems. ...» Thanks matthias ----- Forwarded message from Matthias Apitz ----- Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 19:52:40 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: microSD && ext3 file system Hello, After some hours of testing I'm now totally lost with creating an ext3 file system on a (new) 4GB micro SD card. Using my FR (running SHR) I created one new partition on the SD with fdisk(1) and it looks like this: root@om-gta02 ~ # fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 3953 MB, 3953131520 bytes 4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 120640 cylinders Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x0aecb0ac Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/mmcblk0p1 1 120640 3860472 83 Linux Then I created the ext3 file system on it with: root@om-gta02 ~ # mkfs.ext3 /dev/mmcblk0p1 mke2fs 1.41.9 (22-Aug-2009) Filesystem label= OS type: Linux Block size=4096 (log=2) Fragment size=4096 (log=2) 241440 inodes, 965118 blocks 48255 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user First data block=0 Maximum filesystem blocks=989855744 30 block groups 32768 blocks per group, 32768 fragments per group 8048 inodes per group Superblock backups stored on blocks: 32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912, 819200, 884736 Writing inode tables: done Creating journal (16384 blocks): done Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done This filesystem will be automatically checked every 32 mounts or 180 days, whichever comes first. Use tune2fs -c or -i to override. now mounting against the /etc/fstab line failes: root@om-gta02 ~ # mount /media/card mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mmcblk0p1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so mounting with "-t ext3" works and after this as well mounting with the normal line in fstab(5) works too: root@om-gta02 ~ # mount -t ext3 /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/card root@om-gta02 ~ # umount /media/card root@om-gta02 ~ # mount /media/card root@om-gta02 ~ # and it is really mounted: root@om-gta02 ~ # mount ... /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/card type ext3 (rw,errors=continue,data=ordered) now I create a dir and copy over some files from the host connected via USB: root@om-gta02 ~ # mkdir /media/card/dic host: $ scp -rp stardict-duden-2.4.2 root@miko:/media/card/dic duden.ifo 100% 155 0.2KB/s 00:00 duden.idx 100% 2360KB 786.7KB/s 00:03 duden.dict.dz 100% 6719KB 559.9KB/s 00:12 scp: /media/card/dic/stardict-duden-2.4.2/duden.dict.dz: Read-only file system scp: /media/card/dic/stardict-duden-2.4.2/duden.idx.oft: Read-only file system scp: /media/card/dic/stardict-duden-2.4.2/duden(2).idx.oft: Read-only file system the SCP fails and magically now the SD in the FR is mounted read-only: root@om-gta02 ~ # mount ... /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/card type ext3 (ro,errors=continue,data=ordered) What is wrong or what do I wrong with this SD card? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11 | UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2 | FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 05:53:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A61C106564A for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 05:53:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6118FC0C for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 05:53:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds12 with SMTP id ds12so385572wgb.31 for ; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 22:53:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=i+QkImw5MtPswnElIFDShRp/a/sIrDbOxWlBfeoVazI=; b=I64Z7Y20SSKtsuz7JVdfDyXuVsyFA3hdpx7iL2t9JlbBfsHtXrUnrA+vfI1L+ViPJh pQXMMGbwxreCOJgB7QKJr+E5I7XWSs0TWJ07UeHcl5xMdTztrEPW8dASh7sI/uRWIoPW uAXRFpyhJ8hTxFD3N/5sVweR3bGi+n4Vohfvtif/8lHcLVTXkwqRaLDWKJ0+bSQWT811 mSXHRUn0cu5Y6RwVnnE1Ec4U2bVCQ4YCc+webL+KNDPDvJcizp6oOzllYefFKveDOTsY WL/ckoJbJP2Zpf8GNa4x7IbeEqYlYEE7DsKHIoH9M0PPZGdY120zvSQuEHHnLmznh2tZ vbWg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.137.97 with SMTP id x75mr610980wei.25.1333518822580; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 22:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.94.73 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 22:53:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120404052514.GA2840@tinyCurrent> References: <20120404052514.GA2840@tinyCurrent> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 00:53:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Matthias Apitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: microSD && ext3 file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 05:53:44 -0000 On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > I have some trouble with a microSD card (or with the controler) in my > Linux based cellphone (Openmoko Freerunner). One of the hints I got is > to check the microSD card with a Linux tool badblocks(8) > http://linux.die.net/man/8/badblocks > Not exactly what you are asking for but something like this: recoverdisk /dev/da0 /dev/da0 -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 06:31:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482AC1065673; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 06:31:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pluknet@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91DD38FC18; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 06:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lagv3 with SMTP id v3so828561lag.13 for ; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 23:31:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QMywbn1cW5hcq3F9naN/O3z109qo/Yk4cYzD7jYgQjc=; b=IgZ9VnWCxEgCqTMb9eNvbgwlSOow1u6qbeX0xzkg1cjzXnKqy4GP9BLP5CEEUqmOXc H/ElN63ivYcfATgX7DzvJHuNv6PLAq6PV3oOA2NjUzajxipKQMYpS3gINUERhQ7M2qMh +yJpk44ISkkYgsYHcwg8DMX8+2+T8fZJEXp3lcJcD0mO4VGJljqFBvhgiQDcgdH53NJp lMjvnSMB2f+Mophz0/TpVWSxARpat/ix0SDPCPVz9NgsGTX1HOveROCV8dR5kCCRoq+E aMD2+nLlBAcQZ4q4+d09nSgoRZ81qlDlHG2vuuvdz7FkYNTulOQPdZaXdUF8Gotm7MIe jhxg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.122.80 with SMTP id lq16mr2216759lab.37.1333521075597; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 23:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.25.69 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 23:31:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1333508571.90646.YahooMailNeo@web130204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1333508571.90646.YahooMailNeo@web130204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 10:31:15 +0400 Message-ID: From: Sergey Kandaurov To: gahn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: free bsd , freebsd general questions Subject: Re: compiling glib20 failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 06:31:23 -0000 On 4 April 2012 07:02, gahn wrote: > hi gurus: > > i got problem with compiling glib20: > > =3D=3D=3D>=A0=A0 glib-2.28.8_4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.10.1= - found > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/liblzma.so.5: version XZ_5.0 require= d by /usr/bin/xz not defined > =3D=3D=3D>=A0 Missing license file for LGPL20 in /usr/ports/devel/glib20/= work/glib-2.28.8/COPYING > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/devel/glib20. > *** Error code 1 > > > basically i was trying to install tshark on freebsd 8.1 but it told me i = need to upgrade glib but i got into this mess. > Looks like the source of your problem may lie in that your base /usr/bin/xz tries to dlopen /usr/local/lib/liblzma.so.5 installed from ports and not the one from base (i.e. there should be /usr/lib/liblzma.so.5 instead). The one from ports doesn't have the symbol versioning (or at least doesn't have specific symbols the base xz wants) and, for aught I know, shall not be used by the base xz in any way. I wonder how did you manage to install xz from ports on 8.1 as this port is specifically IGNORE'd to install on 8.1 system with the reason "is already in the base system". 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Plase forgive the long post and the amount of questions, but I'm new to jails and I'd like to be sure of what I'm doing before deploying more than a test one. Right now I need to run a commercial Java app, which, ideally, I would forbid to access files outside its directory. This might be done by simple chrooting it, but I read a jail is a better solution, so I started with ezjails. First of all, I'm wondering whether it would be possible/useful to use chroot even inside that jail. Any opinions? Second question: from inside the jail I can access all services on localhost (eg. telnet localhost pop3, where a pop3 server is running on the host). Can this be avoided, e.g. with ipfw? Ideally, since this jail will run only one deamon and it will be accessed through Apache mod_proxy from the host, I'll just need inbound access to its port and outbound access to smtp and web proxy on the host system. No direct access from/to other hosts. Is this possible? Next... ezjail's author suggests I have a copy of the port tree just for the jails and, furthermore, a repository for distfiles for every jail. Since this would waste a lot of space, I already used a single distfile repository, but I'm also wondering whether it would be a bad idea to use the host's port tree. I know lot of people do this and, keeping it tidy with portsclean -CD, I wonder if it really would be a security risk in my case. Finally (for now :): I usually install portaudit and receive every day a report about vulnerabilities in the host system's installed ports. What about jails? Should I install portaudit there too and let them flood me with reports? Is there a way to let the host's portaudit check jails too? I'm sure I'll have other questions in some days... Thanks in advance for now to anyone who will answer. bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 08:21:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18FD106564A for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 08:21:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA9A8FC15 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 08:21:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id q348Lt9E063255 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 4 Apr 2012 01:21:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id q348Ltt2063254; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 01:21:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA26129; Wed, 4 Apr 12 01:04:07 PDT Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 08:03:11 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: illoai@gmail.com Message-Id: <4f7c62af.TE2lRux2ew4+bRu8%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: current pids per tty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 08:21:55 -0000 "illoai@gmail.com" wrote: > (there is an executable named /usr/bin/jobs, but . . . > well run "cat /usr/bin/jobs" & see for yourself). Whoa! Does /usr/bin/jobs even work? $ cat /usr/bin/jobs #!/bin/sh # $FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/alias/generic.sh,v 1.2.10.1.4.1 2010/06/14 02:09:06 kensmith Exp $ # This file is in the public domain. builtin ${0##*/} ${1+"$@"} It looks as if generic.sh intends to have the same effect as the builtin matching the name under which the script is run, but at least for "jobs" I don't think it will DTRT because it will run in the wrong context: * The builtin "jobs" command will report all background jobs known to the shell in which it is issued. * Because it is a shebang script, running /usr/bin/jobs will cause the shell in which it is run to fork/exec an instance of /bin/sh, and that instance will execute the /usr/bin/jobs script, thus it will will be the new /bin/sh instance that executes _its_ builtin "jobs" command -- reporting nothing, since _that_ instance has not put anything into the background (and has no knowledge of what-all its parent shell may have put in the background). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 08:21:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A498106566C for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 08:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA25B8FC16 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 08:21:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id q348LsJQ063250 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 4 Apr 2012 01:21:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id q348LskM063249; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 01:21:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA26114; Wed, 4 Apr 12 01:01:41 PDT Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 08:00:46 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: jameschen@juniper.net, fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Message-Id: <4f7c621e.tnQwV40ucBoiDtJs%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <079BB83C1486C245B64B055CF016336A02612843@emailhk3.jnpr.net> <4F7B19CE.80401@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4F7B19CE.80401@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions about Jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 08:21:56 -0000 Fbsd8 wrote: > In most cases your jail environment will function ok as long as > its the same base release level. Example, host=8.0 jail1=8.1 and > jail2=8.2 IIUC, a better example would be host=8.2, jail1=8.1 and jail2=8.0. A point release is not supposed to make any incompatible changes to the kernel ABI, but it might add new interfaces not present in the older kernel. > But host=8.2 and jail1=9.0 will have unknown reliability. I would say it is only an accident if (jail major > kernel major) works, because the KABI will likely have changed between N.x and (N+1).x. However, host=9.0, jail1=8.x should work if the host kernel includes the COMPAT_FREEBSD8 option. > Technically there is no checks stopping someone from doing this > and from the outside all will look correct, but it will fail and > you may lose both the host and jail. You may indeed lose the jail, but if _anything_ done in the jail is able to corrupt the host there is by definition a bug in the host's jail support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 08:21:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D051065670 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 08:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B698FC18 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 08:21:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id q348Lumr063270 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 01:21:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id q348LuhT063269 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 01:21:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA26203; Wed, 4 Apr 12 01:20:50 PDT Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 08:19:53 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4f7c6699.ysDEG9sqC2v4v5Xl%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4F75D37C.2020203@lovetemple.net> <20120330232307.41e420b1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4f7770b7.BkVKquuSmumStBb/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120401112923.47e6c8a7.freebsd@edvax.de> <4f79c113.4NFuCWPOnCnPln6u%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120402073303.1ae0ea96@scorpio> <4f7b3fe0.PWM597T4KrLqJxhq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120403084005.576af98e@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120403084005.576af98e@scorpio> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Printer recommendation please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 08:21:57 -0000 Jerry wrote: > > > Furthermore, there are means of encrypting print data ... > > > > Utterly irrelevant to the topic under discussion, which is > > the additional malware exposure that a PDF-accepting printer > > has relative to a printer that accepts only PCL and/or PS. > > FROM YOUR ORIGINAL POST: > "All the more reason to avoid wireless. (I had been thinking more > along the lines of someone intercepting sensitive print files, e.g. > tax returns, as they were being sent to the printer.)" I think you must have missed the parentheses, and the "had been". When I initially stated my distrust of wireless (in a post prior to the one you quoted here), I didn't specify a particular security- related reason, just general concern that it effectively bypasses the firewall. Here I note that Poly's concern about a printer being corrupted by receiving a malicious "firmware update" job is important, and acknowledge that my original concern about sniffing pales by comparison. > I again restate my original statement that there exists means of > encrypting data sent to a printer. Yes, provided the printer supports the corresponding decryption operation, but that capability is still irrelevant to the question of whether the printer's firmware can be corrupted by a malicious "firmware update" job. According to the report that Poly linked to, there are at least some printers that are vulnerable to that kind of attack. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 13:18:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5754106564A for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 13:18:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DF28FC14 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 13:18:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q34DINFk090571; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 23:18:24 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 23:18:23 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: perryh@pluto.rain.com In-Reply-To: <20120404120037.B3B8110657DE@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20120404230032.B2060@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20120404120037.B3B8110657DE@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: illoai@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: current pids per tty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:18:59 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 409, Issue 5, Message: 3 On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 08:03:11 -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > "illoai@gmail.com" wrote: > > > (there is an executable named /usr/bin/jobs, but . . . > > well run "cat /usr/bin/jobs" & see for yourself). > > Whoa! Does /usr/bin/jobs even work? > > $ cat /usr/bin/jobs > #!/bin/sh > # $FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/alias/generic.sh,v 1.2.10.1.4.1 2010/06/14 02:09:06 kensmith Exp $ > # This file is in the public domain. > builtin ${0##*/} ${1+"$@"} > > It looks as if generic.sh intends to have the same effect as the > builtin matching the name under which the script is run, but at > least for "jobs" I don't think it will DTRT because it will run > in the wrong context: > > * The builtin "jobs" command will report all background jobs known > to the shell in which it is issued. > > * Because it is a shebang script, running /usr/bin/jobs will cause > the shell in which it is run to fork/exec an instance of /bin/sh, > and that instance will execute the /usr/bin/jobs script, thus it > will will be the new /bin/sh instance that executes _its_ builtin > "jobs" command -- reporting nothing, since _that_ instance has not > put anything into the background (and has no knowledge of what-all > its parent shell may have put in the background). Quite so: t23# jobs -l t23# sleep 60 & [1] 86793 t23# jobs -l [1] + 86793 Running sleep 60 t23# /usr/bin/jobs -l t23# jobs -l [1] + 86793 Running sleep 60 t23# sh # jobs -l # sleep 60 & # jobs -l [1] + 86819 Running sleep 60 # /usr/bin/jobs -l # jobs -l [1] + 86819 Running sleep 60 # exit t23# jobs -l [1] + 86793 Running sleep 60 t23# jobs -l [1] 86793 Done sleep 60 t23# jobs -l t23# cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 14:06:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2BB1065672 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 14:06:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D008FC14 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 14:06:26 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=VMG16Cir+UxBwHR0EAaamqG0yToJczlRmSLS60wBaGU=; b=H0BnTgtvKXyHhwGuCbPII0ny1r0IH76rJJqsgXzjviaPD8WXr/lP487UnK1pnpmBZ49FCxLiC/7WZqK4lfsOc7zCLb5+/98o60o0H6zgwnj6LMIlGKo3zeSOB3j4UeEtx0ebHPvWq3LeoJMqNPepbP3jvG4p9cxU2dygG1NRfrc= Received: from [192.168.1.200] ([173.88.198.194]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 4 Apr 2012 07:06:25 -0700 Message-ID: <4F7C5561.9000208@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 10:06:25 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrea Venturoli References: <4F7C0365.1050201@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: <4F7C0365.1050201@netfence.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Apr 2012 14:06:25.0464 (UTC) FILETIME=[1F4ED380:01CD126C] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best practices about Jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 14:06:26 -0000 Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Hello. > > Plase forgive the long post and the amount of questions, but I'm new to > jails and I'd like to be sure of what I'm doing before deploying more > than a test one. > Right now I need to run a commercial Java app, which, ideally, I would > forbid to access files outside its directory. > This might be done by simple chrooting it, but I read a jail is a better > solution, so I started with ezjails. > > First of all, I'm wondering whether it would be possible/useful to use > chroot even inside that jail. Any opinions? Possible yes, useful not at all. > > Second question: from inside the jail I can access all services on > localhost (eg. telnet localhost pop3, where a pop3 server is running on > the host). Can this be avoided, e.g. with ipfw? > Ideally, since this jail will run only one deamon and it will be > accessed through Apache mod_proxy from the host, I'll just need inbound > access to its port and outbound access to smtp and web proxy on the host > system. No direct access from/to other hosts. > Is this possible? Firewall in a jail will not work. Only the host firewall has access to the network. > > Next... ezjail's author suggests I have a copy of the port tree just for > the jails and, furthermore, a repository for distfiles for every jail. > Since this would waste a lot of space, I already used a single distfile > repository, but I'm also wondering whether it would be a bad idea to use > the host's port tree. I know lot of people do this and, keeping it tidy > with portsclean -CD, I wonder if it really would be a security risk in > my case. This is overkill. I single ports tree on the host is fine. Matter of fact I use packages for everything accept for php which I have to compile in apache module. I even pre-install all of php's dependents as packages before doing "make install" on the php port. As far as portsclean goes its only for the paranoid. > > Finally (for now :): I usually install portaudit and receive every day a > report about vulnerabilities in the host system's installed ports. What > about jails? Should I install portaudit there too and let them flood me > with reports? Is there a way to let the host's portaudit check jails too? If you dont have full ports tree in the jail then no need for portaudit in the jail. > > I'm sure I'll have other questions in some days... > Thanks in advance for now to anyone who will answer. Best practices is not to create a jail environment by hand as documented in the Freebsd handbook. The port utility qjail simplifies and automates the process to the point where you dont even have to know about the jail command. http://qjail.sourceforge.net/ use the port version for 8.x & 9.0 > > bye > av. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 14:31:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0501065680 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 14:31:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75AF58FC1A for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 14:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.212.153] by nm19.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2012 14:31:04 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.205] by tm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2012 14:31:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1014.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 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freebsd general questions =0ASent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 2:31 AM=0ASubject: Re: compiling= glib20 failed=0A=0AOn 4 April 2012 07:02, gahn wrote:= =0A> hi gurus:=0A>=0A> i got problem with compiling glib20:=0A>=0A> =3D=3D= =3D>=A0=A0 glib-2.28.8_4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.10.1 - found= =0A> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/liblzma.so.5: version XZ_5.0 requ= ired by /usr/bin/xz not defined=0A> =3D=3D=3D>=A0 Missing license file for = LGPL20 in /usr/ports/devel/glib20/work/glib-2.28.8/COPYING=0A> *** Error co= de 1=0A>=0A> Stop in /usr/ports/devel/glib20.=0A> *** Error code 1=0A>=0A>= =0A> basically i was trying to install tshark on freebsd 8.1 but it told me= i need to upgrade glib but i got into this mess.=0A>=0A=0ALooks like the s= ource of your problem may lie in that your base /usr/bin/xz=0Atries to dlop= en /usr/local/lib/liblzma.so.5 installed from ports and not=0Athe one from = base (i.e. there should be /usr/lib/liblzma.so.5 instead).=0AThe one from p= orts doesn't have the symbol versioning=0A(or at least doesn't have specifi= c symbols the base xz wants)=0Aand, for aught I know, shall not be used by = the base xz in any way.=0A=0AI wonder how did you manage to install xz from= ports on 8.1=0Aas this port is specifically IGNORE'd to install on 8.1 sys= tem=0Awith the reason "is already in the base system".=0A=0AFirst I would t= ry to pkgrm xz and see how it helps.=0A=0A-- =0Awbr,=0Apluknet=0A__________= _____________________________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org maili= ng list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo = unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"= =0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 15:48:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81C3106567C for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 15:48:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6698FC0A for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 15:48:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=8nu16m3i9V6qe2Ri/5CX5aASyIpK5TNqVJb5ug8npAg=; b=Emn0ZH9HplIJWFFShR1sa86QHBcTBSiIonvkvNabqmM++HyGEu31VQhfYJcJOqQzVFqdf1mHSOPhfzTmMj+h3F1Oes+MH90gdCMwYsXVtQoKa3arXnu6YAeVq8Ib0o9r; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SFSRA-000FF4-7c for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 10:48:01 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1333554470-20726-20725/5/46; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 15:47:50 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <4F7C0365.1050201@netfence.it> <4F7C5561.9000208@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 10:47:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4F7C5561.9000208@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.62 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Best practices about Jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 15:48:02 -0000 On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 09:06:25 -0500, wrote: > Firewall in a jail will not work. Only the host firewall has access to > the network. Jailsv2 allows your own firewall in the jail. You get a full network stack. This is not supported by ezjails, and should still be marked rather EXPERIMENTAL but isn't. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 20:38:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D61AA1065675 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 20:38:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784268FC0C for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 20:38:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhgm50 with SMTP id m50so540746yhg.13 for ; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:38:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=o0eVNhvgppr3Whbt6BAp+vEhV/e/+Gai6oi/huNU3Mk=; b=PaEHkvqIqz7bW4/kwPh/6CCi1lVzpaT1AKQN2BhvbGUC04pIC5COSNXRDemsVU2WQs q3KnBKHXjWjvynu56bDVX9Q5yZDlIavslqaur2nDJNofCRifbKAgmCYJGvqRWux/t6yG NVDJBWo8IJ14tKvDDB2GedYEiE8JjfPu5cDucBsdIq5T8sKNGaCBxvCKA/au2ObynM7W VnUAE3VLizXfk0S07+s7yi0Bn2SHmTlzgRzCvccJVSktPtMRUqKCYq8xHKlEbnNoyxWs 70GoaCgA2XRSm1fvz5DONnh8qNMzphQn7Gk8nZQnhhiUusk4vjpY9duSQ1fVWDVq1RhG xUDw== Received: by 10.236.193.70 with SMTP id j46mr3793250yhn.65.1333571895013; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d25sm6321408yhe.4.2012.04.04.13.38.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3VNJsJ0d5zz2CG5d for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 16:38:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 16:38:11 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120404163811.1c2f6b9f@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4F7CAC9B.2070606@FreeBSD.org> References: <20120404065640.177c6b73@scorpio> <20348.13284.963931.392595@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120404082712.26acc4b2@scorpio> <4F7CAC9B.2070606@FreeBSD.org> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEUAAABYRlwJCw4FAgAIBwKprDkBAQFQLR0BAgCir7VRttp8AAACAUlEQVQ4jZWUTYvbMBCGTVl8V2hX6Gg5G5FbWQdBj0lEfE7BhN4cyzi5Wt1E5L70roWy6N92xok/skkP+5IYrMcz78xIduDWpNM3vFzuA/jX5EY1AI6KHFwW/CzFuQAwqUBbV12p+CzIh6Awq7sg33pn5D64SQXAexffeuQlA/L35RrkaB551OjGfP/cAO8mCNaDcgvfky5ijoD0pAXlCQCnljiAjsJD9Ax05Ko5sZxbnLQcmM+dZg5IjREfZrWIHK0JuwU68pAGwHvfRxBundRzTxxz3r9dNUikPsEihjz2Dc4kjp1hKsJGuot4EDxaxzMoC7XqhxhOSfZrTS6gSX1JVdjp+o1PvWfekXgw3WL0g70nDEwA0H0HQsEZc8sTmFMTkWUfYWC/vdR1zQy3xLQgLwzu90QnlnFLjeiGWBjwhb4Sa42IqOg2qqS4O1/zhKokFUb1Q8Rj4Eb69WVflXEehJ35DgChVTE5n50eaGyMLOfH8AOodoSM4PVYAQgQdBulOa+knklYks3vAuQ+uX492lTl+A+e8qBV2AKoXalVKFfyuUp0pUp1ARaUHh82lv9MN+Ig7CZtgE6FNYvjlywT2VP2dMgOG46gTIWcqdfvuwyXNz0oMJNd/N5lh1YNiJt19ADTUo3VuFSNeQwVqRSrGjSCp53fk2g+Mvfk/gfoPxHeUS8MH9vRAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlL1yFnqRA92CVC6Kw88j7VxvTA490mlQF55uXrdL6IhOox80aPoRpWF+UUiPC7ODvB83p/ Subject: Re: Updating GnuTLS to latest version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:38:15 -0000 On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:18:35 -0700 Doug Barton articulated: > On 04/04/2012 05:27, Jerry wrote: > > The answer then is to simply do what has been done with other ports > > that have numerous major version numbers; i.e. Bash, MySQL, > > etcetera. Create a GnuTLS-2 and a GnuTLS-3 port and maintain the > > latest versions in each respective port. In fact, it is probably > > the only logical way to maintain this port correctly. Perhaps even > > creating a "GNUTLS_DEFAULT_VERSION=3" directive for the > > "/etc/make.conf" file. There are definitely numerous ways to handle > > this problem. > > When can we expect to see your POC for these changes? Around the same time as you learn to read and respect the prominently displayed request below my signature. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 21:42:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0260B106564A for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 21:42:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD918FC23 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 21:42:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q34LYkHj046210; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 23:34:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0C2D612347; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 23:34:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 23:34:46 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: <20120404213445.GB23551@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <4F7C0365.1050201@netfence.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F7C0365.1050201@netfence.it> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best practices about Jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 21:42:44 -0000 --0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 10:16:37AM +0200, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Hello. >=20 > Plase forgive the long post and the amount of questions, but I'm new to= =20 > jails and I'd like to be sure of what I'm doing before deploying more=20 > than a test one. > Right now I need to run a commercial Java app, which, ideally, I would=20 > forbid to access files outside its directory. > This might be done by simple chrooting it, but I read a jail is a better= =20 > solution, so I started with ezjails. =20 > First of all, I'm wondering whether it would be possible/useful to use=20 > chroot even inside that jail. Any opinions? Not very usefull. If one chroot is safe, a double is overkill. If chroot can be broken out of, an extra chroot is at most an inconvenience. =20 > Second question: from inside the jail I can access all services on=20 > localhost (eg. telnet localhost pop3, where a pop3 server is running on= =20 > the host). Can this be avoided, e.g. with ipfw? The pf firewall allows you to explicitly exlude aliases from interface names. I'm assuming ipfw has similar capabilities. If you make a _pass_ rule for just the real interface without the aliases, you should be able to block stuff.=20 Maybe you can create a loopback device, and associate the jail with that. T= han you can filter the traffic to/from that to your hearts' content. > Ideally, since this jail will run only one deamon and it will be=20 > accessed through Apache mod_proxy from the host, I'll just need inbound= =20 > access to its port and outbound access to smtp and web proxy on the host= =20 > system. No direct access from/to other hosts. > Is this possible? I think so if you make alias the jail to a new loopback interface, you can filter on that. =20 > Next... ezjail's author suggests I have a copy of the port tree just for= =20 > the jails and, furthermore, a repository for distfiles for every jail. > Since this would waste a lot of space, I already used a single distfile= =20 > repository, but I'm also wondering whether it would be a bad idea to use= =20 > the host's port tree. I know lot of people do this and, keeping it tidy= =20 > with portsclean -CD, I wonder if it really would be a security risk in=20 > my case. Does your daemon even use ports? If not, there is no use for the ports tree. But if you want it, you can use a combination of nullfs and unionfs to get a read-only "view" of the hosts' ports tree in the jail, while the "writes" a= re done in the unionfs. This means that you only have to update the hosts' por= ts tree, and the jail will automagically see it. Suppose the root of your jail= is in /var/jails/192.168.0.100/. You do the following (in the host) to set it = up: # cd /var/jails/192.168.0.100/usr # mkdir tmp/foo # mount_nullfs /usr/ports/ ports/ # mount_unionfs -o noatime tmp/foo ports/ To tear this down when you don't need it anymore, do this; # umount /var/jails/192.168.0.100/usr/ports # umount /var/jails/192.168.0.100/usr/ports # cd /var/jails/192.168.0.100/usr # rm -rf tmp/foo/* And yes, the umount command _does_ need to be run twice: once for the union= fs, and once for the nullfs! The contents of `/var/jails/192.168.0.100/usr/tmp/foo/*` are deleted to save space. > What about jails? Should I install portaudit there too and let them flood= me > with reports? Is there a way to let the host's portaudit check jails too? With the nullfs/unionfs combo, you only need to update the ports tree once. You do need to update the ports in your jail with e.g. portmaster. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk98vnUACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVRGQCgr34I1f15I0J4q8I3iJpR1aEs l+oAoJchtwmx9n7HEBwZTZESVe/IYbwt =ttSm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 22:32:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870891065675 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 22:32:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB858FC0C for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 22:31:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds12 with SMTP id ds12so735878wgb.31 for ; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 15:31:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=6SCowPZaKnZdeG0i0jDpOs9UmA/g3CLSpvcSb7akSGU=; b=QbFL5Rs4fHwStMCNxN/ig1v7Baihzq45Iv8tfR4E8gc3X5lQr6FbzmecvQzussXa4V podfyKpwbc2jfVVAXxvX+iDMIjEsUgBFvGELMjnLgI4p1uSXSkBTEjHVGkifQuiX1Btk z0BtOG3Ddwy6rxEnB0fKDQMPiJpxdPbKdeciPbnoR2NSD0HAlHMi+I9+rS44GDHFBzE8 dZIA2O/Ad/C07xC/QjlD17B4r4hvfR9HGaP2XnoXjXokkk7jd54h5GVKqxoqgRzs3sLE 7oMLV3mIvHTlzLouL9ZNHC5XRgXLqBpsK1qgHwrGbiZjPJttcVUfBvHfqJ+kOpruVH01 Y9aA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.135.105 with SMTP id t83mr92014wei.105.1333578718880; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 15:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.94.73 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 15:31:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F7C0365.1050201@netfence.it> References: <4F7C0365.1050201@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 17:31:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Andrea Venturoli Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best practices about Jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 22:32:00 -0000 On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 3:16 AM, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Second question: from inside the jail I can access all services on > localhost (eg. telnet localhost pop3, where a pop3 server is running on the > host). Can this be avoided, e.g. with ipfw? > Ideally, since this jail will run only one deamon and it will be accessed > through Apache mod_proxy from the host, I'll just need inbound access to > its port and outbound access to smtp and web proxy on the host system. No > direct access from/to other hosts. > Is this possible? > I use http://druidbsd.sourceforge.net/vimage.shtml to manage VIMAGE jails. It works well. I don't use any of the jail frameworks in ports because I don't run a large amount of jails which is where one sees the greatest benefit from them. Of course they make certain optimization and procedures easier, but there is something to be said for learning the canonical way jails operate before implementing them in a more abstract framework. My statements are not considering the rc.d/jail* and vimage package as frameworks(although they are in a way at least). -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 22:10:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A98106564A for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 22:10:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timsmith7@yahoo.com) Received: from nm10.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm10.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 481848FC0A for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 22:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.63] by nm10.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2012 22:10:47 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.20] by tm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2012 22:10:47 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1020.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2012 22:10:47 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 871297.34541.bm@omp1020.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 79478 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Apr 2012 22:10:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1333577447; bh=8Yte0j3sA29HHlzJztk3mKY1L+DX3risWoLSanQTekg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=qb/RGq6g/AJuQhrLR6lMDfrR5fEhWr367PxiBr3rNavx36dT9hH0pL/ScWEhPlZpXZ8Ux7KzaHKEyen6eRJMPW2PZMeMI79NHmEyA48eBk7fivjQm+MW/NKswiATwzuXsAa3FWa0V5qMVm+zVWapdzotIDjiQfKf0jxMf0BLQrk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=dfDf9E/EYcXW+0C5WBpWuT4CwqmyabkBClkQX8YCLxUyKX80pQX3OmJVpAZxZaDJU7+Nh1fdAAhl6jb35aA7W9YKllut1UC5s8vj8HmA9GP5+BZBK5R/Nn+18oYS4ZMuSvQ/RPREiFuxHmKe5PQYGX98bKrcw83atPEUsPNbqOI=; X-YMail-OSG: 0COy_N0VM1k8j0ZIEPw4u24HwnTORupMIGtv.Gzv2nI3bLy iG9.gQQR901WmJ4iyiCCEm.yPo66ToVtrxhyiCY88cMwbh_gk_8mXfQEgrlK gcyhj4kXtFyF.QFPFsNN7SlYiw.J9qmCSA8KjtP5pL8b0kLMfhGhKWk2_03g .MLRd3Cab0SuARylGmBNxgrYvFBY1MsTMzkXBQ5A7gvrVKln9T06a4nifrv5 2HZLskj8XTWYLDx75eyEmdyhILaaX7HNFaDNULtvECPpLsQcw8iaZKIALV7Z EqeqimkB6ZbWKezu5w2BiS8O.k4a0miP.AErebT3ZGjrb2pi1GIExU._MlRD EoHku3NdEC4Jn3SJVId.mJZct9VswKo5BSh1e9rb7RMX7TSBGJTd3uqi8WL8 RwJXm4XViW339r8n2R87Uadw_XTx5reRf4fE0RpNfFEMl5m8fcqTYSQeDwqG 56OehHZQo0mZdTHdhfk3_AMeQX5_V8zCco_HuzP7o Received: from [206.108.117.33] by web43131.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 15:10:47 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 Message-ID: <1333577447.76268.YahooMailClassic@web43131.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 15:10:47 -0700 (PDT) From: tim smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 22:37:35 +0000 Subject: modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 22:10:48 -0000 Well, I checked the log for ppp, nothing I could see. There's not much as I= still can't send the modem an AT, so... --- On Tue, 3/4/12, tim smith wrote: > From: tim smith > Subject: modem > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Tuesday, 3 April, 2012, 8:49 AM >=20 > My us robotics serial modem worked without issue on previous > freebsd versions. With 9, user ppp term, I get /dev/cuau0/ > device failed to open >=20 > Suggestions? >=20 > Tim > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 00:26:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24795106566B for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 00:26:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B408FC15 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 00:26:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.40]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DBC3D132; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 02:26:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q350Qox3004210; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 02:26:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 02:26:50 +0200 From: Polytropon To: tim smith Message-Id: <20120405022650.e327e651.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1333577447.76268.YahooMailClassic@web43131.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1333577447.76268.YahooMailClassic@web43131.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 00:26:59 -0000 On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 15:10:47 -0700 (PDT), tim smith wrote: > > Well, I checked the log for ppp, nothing I could see. > There's not much as I still can't send the modem an AT, so... Could you verify the presence of the cuau* file in /dev? Maybe you can post the essential parts of your ppp.conf as well as significant changes to your kernel (in case you're not using the GENERIC kernel; check "device uart"), and /boot/loader.conf? And finally, can you show the _full_ error message that you receive, maybe also informational parts of the ppp log file? What steps of diagnosis and testing could you already accomplish (with which results)? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 07:01:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03511065670 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 07:01:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out7.libero.it (cp-out7.libero.it [212.52.84.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0068FC12 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 07:01:08 +0000 (UTC) X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B0204.4F7D427B.00B9,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-libjamoibt: 1555 Received: from soth.ventu (151.41.166.231) by cp-out7.libero.it (8.5.133) id 4F71B5A1014811BB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 08:58:03 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q356vtIO065801 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 08:57:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4F7D4273.1010604@netfence.it> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 08:57:55 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; it-IT; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120314 Thunderbird/3.1.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.72 on 10.1.2.13 Subject: Fast question abount EDITOR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 07:01:09 -0000 Hello. This might be a stupid question... however... %setenv EDITOR emacs -nw setenv: Too many arguments. %setenv EDITOR "emacs -nw" %crontab -e crontab: emacs -nw: No such file or directory crontab: "emacs -nw" exited with status 1 Is there a way I can easily achieve the above? Do I really need a script which in turns call emacs -nw? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 07:22:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C9D106564A; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 07:22:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saeedeh.motlagh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C955F8FC16; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 07:21:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wern13 with SMTP id n13so851984wer.13 for ; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 00:21:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=4awHPmcXUmkibPfiRGw7tpjDNzBdiVmHumpdjHJaSlo=; b=nJ0ix43kEC8q82FpKSUy0Xv2Ev9GYPH0YPn7GiYUCIq6QIV4PeiMWsmngTXfpR93pS PxAUppZkUknulEgkDmWX8tIYJCXiEx9pl7nptiXqTSOnMPA03eyzgJLlOV4pNyPQwaQx H134SZBo1uPigx61Jbgw9DLwvnMNGGdjrgR2qDE1mxatIJd/MpRfv/7VD/heOpfRzxjK P574smXyQVWidxDMfUPPNvKwifQSPyZH3KmAXkCquYmFRXNC0Pak8WZ4muxnYvYynU0q PB9GPbUHbzpb8iF0Xo0IipyfLdADBfnxzbI+3a70x/AYQQY7wGCrbmC1YMWYw/0bKRhW klNw== Received: by 10.216.136.202 with SMTP id w52mr930950wei.109.1333610518782; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 00:21:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.87.10 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 00:21:18 -0700 (PDT) From: saeedeh motlagh Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 00:21:18 -0700 Message-ID: To: freebsd-net , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: what is the path of kernel build directory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 07:22:01 -0000 hello guys i want to install the openvswitch 1.4.0 from a linux package. the below command should be executed: ./configure --with-linux=/lib/modules/'uname -r '/build this is a linux command and i should execute the FreeBSD equivalent but i don't know how to do that. the manual says: To build the Linux kernel module, so that you can run the kernel-based switch, pass the location of the kernel build directory on --with-linux. what is kernel build directory in FreeBSD9 amd64? or how i should execute this command? yours, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 13:34:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CFE1065670 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 13:34:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E152F8FC1E for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 13:34:12 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=7RgqnblzsEI42voGXXqhmMauJejNkIH+sccYio7LNWU=; b=BEYipVAoj1n9iJ4V8Ple8IZFGvdIERS5L2jErvPef1SfgufshBnqZjoB3vJVtu8jWyexwza/LbwCe9OBj5aeGy6Y/HdSQ1CbcOYgwJ3hTcbCIJN6BvBndsD1I4E0tATCTE8klWk9hOLCOLKw/hNV1S8D9WLecmy1lkHeS0cY0m4= Received: from [192.168.1.201] ([173.88.198.194]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 5 Apr 2012 06:33:43 -0700 Message-ID: <4F7D9F37.70902@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 09:33:43 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Apr 2012 13:33:44.0069 (UTC) FILETIME=[B8A37350:01CD1330] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Subject: Links the command line browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:34:13 -0000 My mouse works as expected for copy and paste function on the xterm console. But when I launch the "links" command line browser the mouse pointer is OVER active. I move the mouse a hair and the pointer on the links browser screen moves 2 inches. Is there some way in "links" to control the mouse pointer sensitivity? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 14:15:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DFB106566C for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 14:15:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7AB8FC08 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 14:15:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.154.196] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SFnT1-0005kM-Kg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 16:15:16 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q35EFDUZ049932 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:15:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q35EF7jD049930 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:15:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:15:07 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120405141506.GA49845@tiny> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.154.196 Subject: order of source_dirs in cp(1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 14:15:25 -0000 Hello, I was doing $ cp -Rv 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 2 /mnt/osm and was surprised seeing that source_dir 17 was done before 16; the man page does not specify the order, but I was thinking it just goes through the list in the given order... Why this is done this way? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 16:02:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27DFD106564A for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:02:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDDA08FC18 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:02:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.40]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F4DF1E409; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 18:02:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q35G2Lhl002083; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 18:02:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 18:02:21 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Andrea Venturoli Message-Id: <20120405180221.d823cca1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4F7D4273.1010604@netfence.it> References: <4F7D4273.1010604@netfence.it> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fast question abount EDITOR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 16:02:29 -0000 On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 08:57:55 +0200, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Hello. > > This might be a stupid question... however... > > %setenv EDITOR emacs -nw > setenv: Too many arguments. > > %setenv EDITOR "emacs -nw" > %crontab -e > crontab: emacs -nw: No such file or directory > crontab: "emacs -nw" exited with status 1 > > > Is there a way I can easily achieve the above? > Do I really need a script which in turns call emacs -nw? According to crontab's source, the editor is invoked by an execlp() call, usr/src/usr.sbin/cron/crontab/crontab.c in line 404: execlp(editor, editor, Filename, (char *)NULL); The synopsis of this function can be found in "man 3 exec": int execlp(const char *file, const char *arg, ... /*, (char *)0 */); The manpage contains this information: The initial argument for these functions is the pathname of a file which is to be executed. and: The first argument, by convention, should point to the file name associated with the file being executed. as well as: The functions execlp(), execvp(), and execvP() will duplicate the actions of the shell in searching for an executable file if the specified file name does not contain a slash ``/'' character. For execlp() and execvp(), search path is the path specified in the environment by ``PATH'' variable. If this variable is not specified, the default path is set according to the _PATH_DEFPATH definition in , which is set to ``/usr/bin:/bin''. That means that $EDITOR has to contain the file name of the editor (as its location will be determined automatically). When options are added, this requirement isn't met anymore. This seems to imply that you cannot use an alias - you'd have to provide a script as you initially did assume. :-( -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 16:29:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB959106566B for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:29:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1988FC08 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q35GTxjA043906 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 11:29:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 11:29:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201204051629.q35GTxjA043906@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4F7D4273.1010604@netfence.it> Subject: Re: Fast question abount EDITOR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 16:29:06 -0000 Andrea Venturoli wrote: > > Hello. > > This might be a stupid question... however... > > %setenv EDITOR emacs -nw > setenv: Too many arguments. > > %setenv EDITOR "emacs -nw" > %crontab -e > crontab: emacs -nw: No such file or directory > crontab: "emacs -nw" exited with status 1 > > > Is there a way I can easily achieve the above? Not 'directly', the EDITOR variable has to be the name of an _executable_, it is passed to exec and friends, as the executable to load. There -may- be annother environment variable that emacs _itself_ looks at for start-up switch settings, (the 'minimal' manpage I have access to doesn't mention any, but I'm _not_ an emacs user and don'k have full docs available) If all else fails, put the 'command' equivelent of '-nw' in your emacs start-up file. > Do I really need a script which in turns call emacs -nw? Authoritative answer: 'maybe'. See above for some 'possible' alternatives. classic advice concerning the 'fine manual' From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 16:32:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7320106564A for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:32:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@dataix.net) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE178FC12 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:32:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so2684670iah.13 for ; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 09:32:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dataix.net; s=rsa; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=g6I1utq/xO1EbDSsn7kpNLdMLuZTZFs1qLbPHzvBdIk=; b=HEkFkKdYnfUxviKt+0QVb2rgiweb+pvXF8KtCbJv2MbXumT2KX10Qka+NW0iED3kS6 D1bQGhal8EBdVVG3NfIf5Xfnel/1mxHt5Q5oQevNh+5nP2Swfk+XzMXXtNsm3qzJpCE/ eiDWZgXdMfwuv6W+onVZYUmHrSLPrGsSCexL4= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:x-gm-message-state; bh=g6I1utq/xO1EbDSsn7kpNLdMLuZTZFs1qLbPHzvBdIk=; b=D+Bq3cmHssVvIR6edDnb3cTdyXWNYZcK+t0e3eQY/xxEG8JGqTFZdK+G4tN99p2iyY GT8Q5tspp0j1t3OFlgmU6tnQs0Yh00ck6nhFHa7GwYtIGPhSRqI4PnGvT3HFsSm0zYWQ uLmXOjFrINOrOwk1qCNP0qiZvT3ck42ytfRf0ovdBepIHqHtXYQKV50iFFLbZcSUq/Ro K1EzBk59RLdf7qa2F2K6TW//KYkoOnT/rK4snjFhq+oH6gsPB5OHNxRIjtknC+gCOTjz F2yy0fWROqP+HINE1095Dcp4McDQLwFCp/VrXZb5ky0+WhFCAHY71pEz3Fpx9VWDphXu 1e3g== Received: by 10.50.183.193 with SMTP id eo1mr2647126igc.20.1333643547319; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 09:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DataIX.net ([99.109.124.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hq3sm17789311igc.0.2012.04.05.09.32.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 05 Apr 2012 09:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DataIX.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by DataIX.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q35GWNvX078898 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 5 Apr 2012 12:32:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhellenthal@DataIX.net) Received: (from jhellenthal@localhost) by DataIX.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q35GWMQa074952; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 12:32:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhellenthal@DataIX.net) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 12:32:22 -0400 From: Jason Hellenthal To: saeedeh motlagh Message-ID: <20120405163222.GA13978@DataIX.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnkY9gk/nXxFX+VFgLDXJvZPGIocjAGJ9DAdul0OZ2nrkKm1QSqpi+mcIlrmoD+vwr+E9Wj Cc: freebsd-net , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what is the path of kernel build directory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 16:32:28 -0000 /usr/obj/usr/src/sys// The handbook has a very clear section on this. Good luck. On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 12:21:18AM -0700, saeedeh motlagh wrote: > hello guys > i want to install the openvswitch 1.4.0 from a linux package. the below > command should be executed: > ./configure --with-linux=/lib/modules/'uname -r '/build > this is a linux command and i should execute the FreeBSD equivalent but i > don't know how to do that. the manual says: > > To build the Linux kernel module, so that you can run the > kernel-based switch, pass the location of the kernel build > directory on --with-linux. > > what is kernel build directory in FreeBSD9 amd64? or how i should execute > this command? > > yours, > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- ;s =; From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 16:38:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA7D1065670; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:38:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C912B8FC0A; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:38:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q35GdFO0043980; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 11:39:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 11:39:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201204051639.q35GdFO0043980@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, saeedeh.motlagh@gmail.com In-Reply-To: Cc: Subject: Re: what is the path of kernel build directory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 16:38:16 -0000 saeedeh motlagh wrote: > > hello guys > i want to install the openvswitch 1.4.0 from a linux package. the below > command should be executed: > ./configure --with-linux=/lib/modules/'uname -r '/build > this is a linux command and i should execute the FreeBSD equivalent but i > don't know how to do that. the manual says: > > To build the Linux kernel module, so that you can run the > kernel-based switch, pass the location of the kernel build > directory on --with-linux. > > what is kernel build directory in FreeBSD9 amd64? or how i should execute > this command? If you have to ask, you should *NOT* attempt to build this kernel module on FreeBSD. The kernel, kernel interfaes, etc. are *DIFFERENT* between Linux and FreeBSD. signficicant sourte-code changes will VERY PROBABLY be require to get the module to (a) compile, and (b) run, in a FreeBSD environment. To do _that_ -- modifying the sources -- 'where the build directory is' is a very _minor_ incidental piece of knowlege. If you don't have that incidental knowledge, is is virtually certain, you don't have the skill set to do the required source modifications. Executive summary -- this is a DDT issue. DDT ==> on't o hat!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 17:18:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7DC106566B for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 17:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E758FC16 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 17:18:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 79359 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2012 17:18:48 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 5 Apr 2012 17:18:48 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:vbr-info; s=4f7dd3f8.xn--btvx9d.k1204; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=WZcCjvVGE6gImVbKotPhz/JrEMW9uCrUKS6wIeI087Y=; b=SDVRXPel6FatetvlC7fp/ddvXluTwOzarSF/AvXMHGCFGeCM8BugqaaiKHc8QiJToV+6qLBlZegyk1t3i8/Z1/eYrSozPqkimtH/nsW9ODseXyizqCpqXXBIzZB49U+gPqOn/FSaPpyEL48J22kzT+EwpSF8LbQZ4ZAev9hJuCI= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Date: 5 Apr 2012 17:18:25 -0000 Message-ID: <20120405171825.8735.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <201204051629.q35GTxjA043906@mail.r-bonomi.com> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com Subject: Re: Fast question abount EDITOR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 17:18:51 -0000 >> Do I really need a script which in turns call emacs -nw? >Authoritative answer: 'maybe'. There may be an alternative to the obvious one line shell script, but that's what one line shell scripts are for. One of the strengths of Unix is that its design encourages people to solve problems by composing existing tools rather than by adding ever more options to every program. R's, John PS: I realize that over the decades we have strayed somewhat from this ideal. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 17:31:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5906106564A for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 17:31:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdb@ssr.com) Received: from mailhost.ssr.com (mailhost.ssr.com [199.4.235.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 85D718FC08 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 17:31:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 97294 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2012 17:17:57 -0000 Received: from pool-72-89-112-74.nycmny.east.verizon.net (HELO irelay.ssr.com) (sdb@72.89.112.74) by 199.4.235.5 with SMTP; 5 Apr 2012 17:17:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 54493 invoked by uid 103); 5 Apr 2012 17:01:38 -0000 Date: 5 Apr 2012 17:01:38 -0000 Message-ID: <20120405170138.54492.qmail@irelay.ssr.com> From: Scott Ballantyne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120405171825.8735.qmail@joyce.lan> Subject: Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "gnomesegvhandler" after upgrade from 8.2 -> 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 17:31:09 -0000 Hi, I just upgraded from 8.2 -> 9.0 using freebsd-update, my first time for the binary upgrade. Since the upgrade, I've been getting these unable to load "gnomesegvhandler" messages from various software, such as emacs. Any idea what I can do to fix his? The upgrade went fairly smoothly, although freebsd-update deleted more stuff than it should. I had to nuke my ports tree, and install compat8x and all the ports from scratch. I doubt this had anything to do with my problem, just mentioning for the sake of completeness. Thanks for any help, Scott -- sdb@ssr.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 17:33:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F26106564A for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 17:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [87.98.206.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4388FC16 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 17:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A21778C71 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 19:24:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.7.0 (20110701) at rmm.fr Received: from newmail.rmm.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id ZBOIIxq02m27 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 19:24:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [87.98.206.99]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: hidden) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A216978C69 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 19:24:20 +0200 (CEST) From: bsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 19:24:19 +0200 Message-Id: <47BE4A7A-E5E4-498B-A994-9CC331D3CA85@todoo.biz> To: Liste FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: Problem installing bind in jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 17:33:40 -0000 Hi,=20 I have followed the tutorial provided in = http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails-applicatio= n.html I have now five jails up and running and I am very happy with the = system.=20 One of my jail is acting as an important DNS server and It needs to be = up to date.=20 I have decided to recompile bind in the latest version and I am running = into a problem which is caused by bind port not following the FreeBSD = requisites and trying to install things in /usr/include/isc=20 making all in = /s/portbuild/usr/ports/dns/bind98/work/bind-9.8.2/lib/isc/x86_32 making all in = /s/portbuild/usr/ports/dns/bind98/work/bind-9.8.2/lib/isc/x86_32/include making all in = /s/portbuild/usr/ports/dns/bind98/work/bind-9.8.2/lib/isc/x86_32/include/i= sc making install in = /s/portbuild/usr/ports/dns/bind98/work/bind-9.8.2/lib/isc/include making all in = /s/portbuild/usr/ports/dns/bind98/work/bind-9.8.2/lib/isc/include/isc making install in = /s/portbuild/usr/ports/dns/bind98/work/bind-9.8.2/lib/isc/include/isc /bin/sh ../../../../mkinstalldirs /usr/include/isc mkdir /usr/include/isc mkdir: /usr/include/isc: Read-only file system *** Error code 1 Stop in = /s/portbuild/usr/ports/dns/bind98/work/bind-9.8.2/lib/isc/include/isc. [=85]=20 I am not certain of the path I should take to solve this issue=85=20 Most probably I should simlink from the RO part of the system to the RW=85= but I am not 100% sure how to proceed.=20 Why is ISC trying to setup things in this location and not on = /usr/local/include/ ?=20 I think I would need to simlink from the RO portion of the system = /usr/include/isc to /usr/local/include/isc but I am not certain how to = proceed.=20 Thanks for your help.=20 G.B.=20 =96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96= =96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96 ---------> Gr=E9gory Bernard Director <--------- ---------------> www.osnet.eu <--------------- --> Your provider of OpenSource appliances <-- =96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96= =96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96 OSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetO From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 17:40:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D421065670 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 17:40:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2978FC08 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 17:40:38 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=13mi1nQcG9ewjkPojrw5qRerp/HT68Y+iaaEtYD7L68=; b=QY3I5JcVYcpV3zsHmNvXkaZggfNxV0Q/Tk1YciMG8XburM4642Dr7E0Uwf2h8ctpsbCIr5E9VF9YY3Nspr78xIc6fmmtHT2+mK+AObOfxnSI32+yD1tiEBYvgUEN0uBqUlfyDTdSxW122oFqnbr+pV/AtFiWaGRdG4aFnhJz9GQ= Received: from [192.168.1.201] ([173.88.198.194]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 5 Apr 2012 10:40:25 -0700 Message-ID: <4F7DD907.80001@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:40:23 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Apr 2012 17:40:25.0188 (UTC) FILETIME=[2ECAFA40:01CD1353] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Subject: Freebsd 9.0 and cdrecord X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 17:40:38 -0000 Since the device name change for cdrom drives in 9.0 the burncd command no longer functions. I installed the cdrtools package pkg_add -r cdrtools on my 9.0 box, got cdrtools-3.00_1. Every time I use cdrecord command I get error message "The unit seems to be hung and needs power cycling". It will mount ok using the mount command. I found in the questions archives poster saying to use the development port version and not any package version. Also says that atapicam_load="YES" has to be added to /boot/loader.conf. Since all those archive posts are over 3 years old I am confused on what is the 9.0 procedure, (IE: is the 9.0 pkg any good? which port version is complete? Does atapicam_load="YES" still have to be added to /boot/loader.conf? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 18:20:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20676106566B for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 18:20:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF04A8FC14 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 18:20:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SFrIA-0007A2-Qi for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:20:19 +0200 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:20:18 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:20:18 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 18:20:09 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <4F7DD907.80001@a1poweruser.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2) Subject: Re: Freebsd 9.0 and cdrecord X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 18:20:22 -0000 Fbsd8 a1poweruser.com> writes: > ... > Since all those archive posts are over 3 years old I am confused on what > is the 9.0 procedure, (IE: is the 9.0 pkg any good? which port version > is complete? Does atapicam_load="YES" still have to be added to > /boot/loader.conf? > ... When in doubt or trouble, go for the latest port cdrtools-3.00_2 . Also, do not include atapicam_load="YES" as it may conflict with SCSI generic drivers. First, update your ports collection tree with 'portsnap'. Then compile cdrtools port - if OK, then remove its package, and then install the port. Next, see what cdrecord discovers (your CD ROM drive): # cdrecord -scanbus jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 18:32:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C0D1065675 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 18:32:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy5-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy5.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DDEA8FC15 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 18:32:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22432 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2012 18:32:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2012 18:32:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=zRHUfxMJAwlIffnrd4Lre9yI/lN/TkIxrB3pUgltkjw=; b=nsMvQZ3Dz3uBIoIvrNSRgqL6H3iLZrns+5xF5IQsZFGrqWYpZ4Ddk2V9cNWacYAmULPkmkXD7Md7TrFT8k9qefK30kBFbfktf7+901t1/DgpmUW/blkyClzHUxMTMLIj; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SFrUB-0007NY-9D for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 12:32:43 -0600 Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 12:32:43 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120405183243.GA15425@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F7D9F37.70902@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F7D9F37.70902@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: Links the command line browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 18:32:44 -0000 On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 09:33:43AM -0400, Fbsd8 wrote: > My mouse works as expected for copy and paste function on the xterm > console. But when I launch the "links" command line browser the > mouse pointer is OVER active. I move the mouse a hair and the > pointer on the links browser screen moves 2 inches. Is there some > way in "links" to control the mouse pointer sensitivity? I haven't used "links" in a long time, so I'm not sure, but it sounds like there is. You may want to have a look at other console based browsers as alternatives, if "links" does not behave as you prefer. Have you tried w3m or one of its enhanced brethren? /usr/ports/www/w3m /usr/ports/www/w3m-img /usr/ports/www/w3m-m17n /usr/ports/www/w3m-m17n-img -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 20:19:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0093B106564A for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 20:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4E48FC14 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 20:19:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (tor.pm-ib.de [83.133.106.73]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BFB785AB2 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 00:18:59 +0400 (MSK) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 00:18:50 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120405201850.GB6521@external.screwed.box> References: <4F7D9F37.70902@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F7D9F37.70902@a1poweruser.com> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: Links the command line browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:19:10 -0000 Hello. 2012/04/05 09:33:43 -0400 Fbsd8 => To FreeBSD Questions : F> My mouse works as expected for copy and paste function on the xterm F> console. But when I launch the "links" command line browser the mouse F> pointer is OVER active. I move the mouse a hair and the pointer on the F> links browser screen moves 2 inches. Is there some way in "links" to F> control the mouse pointer sensitivity? If you use www/links port from X11 then you may want to use the '-g' switch for it. It makes the links to launch in a separate x11 window without (well... mostly) problems with mouse pointer. Of course you are welcome to try the www/links-hacked port especially if that is your case. Anyway www/elinks port possess far more features for ttyvX/xterm than www/links, it's a rather nice tool, too. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E26627 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 20:43:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93621065673 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 20:43:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E2B8FC12 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 20:43:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q35Khkrm059706 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 5 Apr 2012 21:43:47 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q35Khkrm059706 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q35Khkrm059706; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4F7E03FA.9040101@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 21:43:38 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bsd References: <47BE4A7A-E5E4-498B-A994-9CC331D3CA85@todoo.biz> In-Reply-To: <47BE4A7A-E5E4-498B-A994-9CC331D3CA85@todoo.biz> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig775B63F63B07C99D200E300C" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: Problem installing bind in jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:43:51 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig775B63F63B07C99D200E300C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/04/2012 18:24, bsd wrote: > I have decided to recompile bind in the latest version and I am > running into a problem which is caused by bind port not following the > FreeBSD requisites and trying to install things in /usr/include/isc What on earth gives you the idea that dns/bind98 doesn't conform to hier(7)? The bind ports are all installing stuff correctly: the only files that get installed in an 'isc' or 'isccc' sub-directory are c-language header files. That's perfectly legal according to the rules. No problem there. I suggest turning off the REPLACE_BASE option in the port. You really don't need it -- install as normal under /usr/local (which I guess should fix the writablity problems). Then all you need to enable the ports version of named is to put the following in /etc/rc.conf: named_enable=3D"YES" named_program=3D"/usr/local/sbin/named" That's it. You can now start up the ports version of named by: /etc/rc.d/named start The bind port creates symlinks for named.conf, rndc.conf and rndc.key in /usr/local/etc so you can control the ports version of bind in the usual way using rndc(8). (Well, assuming you've set up /etc/namedb/named.conf properly.) Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enig775B63F63B07C99D200E300C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9+BAEACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzzjgCcCx+0+WrXKKgXgd0D/o+HDBpQ mRMAn23zeQcq3c0C0P6E9bvkLPXnGiDk =11xL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig775B63F63B07C99D200E300C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 00:54:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F9F1065670 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 00:54:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0FE8FC12 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 00:54:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 27A625C22 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 11:07:36 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F7E3EA6.1050303@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 10:53:58 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47BE4A7A-E5E4-498B-A994-9CC331D3CA85@todoo.biz> In-Reply-To: <47BE4A7A-E5E4-498B-A994-9CC331D3CA85@todoo.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Problem installing bind in jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 00:54:07 -0000 On 04/06/12 03:24, bsd wrote: > Hi, > > I have followed the tutorial provided in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails-application.html > I have now five jails up and running and I am very happy with the system. > > One of my jail is acting as an important DNS server and It needs to be up to date. > > I have decided to recompile bind in the latest version and I am running into a problem which is caused by bind port not following the FreeBSD requisites and trying to install things in /usr/include/isc > > > making all in /s/portbuild/usr/ports/dns/bind98/work/bind-9.8.2/lib/isc/x86_32 > making all in /s/portbuild/usr/ports/dns/bind98/work/bind-9.8.2/lib/isc/x86_32/include > making all in /s/portbuild/usr/ports/dns/bind98/work/bind-9.8.2/lib/isc/x86_32/include/isc > making install in /s/portbuild/usr/ports/dns/bind98/work/bind-9.8.2/lib/isc/include > making all in /s/portbuild/usr/ports/dns/bind98/work/bind-9.8.2/lib/isc/include/isc > making install in /s/portbuild/usr/ports/dns/bind98/work/bind-9.8.2/lib/isc/include/isc > /bin/sh ../../../../mkinstalldirs /usr/include/isc > mkdir /usr/include/isc > mkdir: /usr/include/isc: Read-only file system > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /s/portbuild/usr/ports/dns/bind98/work/bind-9.8.2/lib/isc/include/isc. > […] > > > > I am not certain of the path I should take to solve this issue… > Most probably I should simlink from the RO part of the system to the RW… but I am not 100% sure how to proceed. > > > Why is ISC trying to setup things in this location and not on /usr/local/include/ ? > > > I think I would need to simlink from the RO portion of the system /usr/include/isc to /usr/local/include/isc but I am not certain how to proceed. Assuming your replacing the base version, you cannot use symlinks but you can use a nullfs mount. You can make any part RW this way as long as its a directory. As Matthew pointed out, all is in order here. No rule breaks happening... :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 01:00:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF73106566C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 01:00:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B73758FC08 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 01:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A22505C22 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 11:14:06 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F7E402E.4080400@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 11:00:30 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: what is the path of kernel build directory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 01:00:32 -0000 On 04/05/12 17:21, saeedeh motlagh wrote: > hello guys > i want to install the openvswitch 1.4.0 from a linux package. the below > command should be executed: > ./configure --with-linux=/lib/modules/'uname -r '/build > this is a linux command and i should execute the FreeBSD equivalent but i > don't know how to do that. the manual says: > > To build the Linux kernel module, so that you can run the > kernel-based switch, pass the location of the kernel build > directory on --with-linux. > > what is kernel build directory in FreeBSD9 amd64? or how i should execute > this command? This isn't going to work the way you think, as has been pointed out: This is _not_ linux. Its better... :) The good news is that FreeBSD can run linux programs and some other features (such as some modules), so you might want to try the emulation@ list where the linuxulator gurus hang out to get help building this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 10:27:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1233) id 753DE1065672; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 10:27:39 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 10:27:39 +0000 From: Alexander Best To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20120406102739.GA9704@freebsd.org> References: <20120330130051.GA62102@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question regarding geom labels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 10:27:39 -0000 On Fri Mar 30 12, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Alexander Best wrote: > > >i have a question regarding a label for a swap partition. when should i do > >the > >labeling? after or before creating the partition scheme? > > > >when i label before creating the partition scheme, likes this: > > > >glabel label -v swap /dev/da0 > >gpart create -s GPT /dev/da0 > > > >i get the following warning: > > > >GEOM: da1: the secondary GPT header is not in the last LBA. > > > >which is obvious, because the label is being written into the last LBA and > >thus > >the backup GPT header gets written into the last-1 LBA. > > Right. Don't do that, the GPT backup header needs to be at the end of > the physical device. If you're using that whole disk for swap, there's > no need for a partition anyway. > > >if i create the partitioning scheme before labeling the device, like this: > > > >gpart create -s GPT /dev/da0 > >glabel label -v swap /dev/da0 > > > >or > > > >gpart create -s GPT /dev/da0 > >gpart add -t freebsd-swap /dev/da0 > >glabel label -v swap /dev/da0p1 > > > >the label gets written into da0 or da0p1 and is at constant risk of being > >overwritten by userdata. > > No. The swap device entered in /etc/fstab would be /dev/label/swap, > which is one block smaller than da0p1. That's the last-block metadata, > it's safe. thanks for the info. :) > > But if the whole disk is for swap, skip the partitioning entirely. 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I know that Token Ring support was removed several releases ago. I again now have a somewhat pressing need for Token Ring support on FreeBSD 9. The FreeBSD Token Ring Project seems to be inactive from a look at the website. Would anyone know of a PCI token ring card that perhaps the manufacturer provides their own drivers for FreeBSD 9? All my google searches have come up dry. Or, if any of the FreeBSD Token Ring Driver Project developers are lurking around still, perhaps one of them would consider taking a donation to make the old FreeBSD olicom drivers work on FreeBSD 9? Jay West EZwind.net PO Box 460474 Saint Louis, MO 63146 Voice: (314) 262-4143 ext 1000 Toll Free: (866) 343-2589 Fax: (314) 558-9284 jwest@ezwind.net -------------------------------------------- This e-mail transmission may contain information that is proprietary, privileged and/or confidential and is intended exclusively for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 17:30:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98BD61065674 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 17:30:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwest@ezwind.net) Received: from ezwind.net (bobby.ezwind.net [209.145.140.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64AD18FC14 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 17:30:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from LENOVOD6B52A6B by ezwind.net (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.3.R) with ESMTP id 55-md50000130081.msg for ; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 12:30:52 -0500 From: "Jay West" To: References: <000301cd1412$b39c1550$1ad43ff0$@net> In-Reply-To: <000301cd1412$b39c1550$1ad43ff0$@net> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 12:30:48 -0500 Message-ID: <000801cd141b$01c9fe60$055dfb20$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac0UErL5t/EkjSruQ8SQkFtOjf5FGQACB1bw Content-Language: en-us X-Authenticated-Sender: jwest@ezwind.net X-Spam-Processed: gateway.ezwind.net, Fri, 06 Apr 2012 12:30:52 -0500 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 66.128.111.62 X-Return-Path: jwest@ezwind.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Token Ring (really) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 17:30:59 -0000 Well over 20 years experience with FreeBSD, and I was not aware of "Project Evil" ;) I don't know if my olicom card has NDIS versions of their driver for token ring, but if so, that just might work! Still, getting the deprecated oltr driver on FreeBSD9 would be awesome.... Jay West EZwind.net PO Box 460474 Saint Louis, MO 63146 Voice: (314) 262-4143 ext 1000 Toll Free: (866) 343-2589 Fax: (314) 558-9284 jwest@ezwind.net -------------------------------------------- This e-mail transmission may contain information that is proprietary, privileged and/or confidential and is intended exclusively for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. Any use, copying, retention or disclosure by any person other than the intended recipient or the intended recipient's designees is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient or their designee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jay West Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 11:31 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Token Ring (really) I used to use the Token Ring driver in previous versions of FreeBSD (I think it was the oli one I was using). I know that Token Ring support was removed several releases ago. I again now have a somewhat pressing need for Token Ring support on FreeBSD 9. The FreeBSD Token Ring Project seems to be inactive from a look at the website. Would anyone know of a PCI token ring card that perhaps the manufacturer provides their own drivers for FreeBSD 9? All my google searches have come up dry. Or, if any of the FreeBSD Token Ring Driver Project developers are lurking around still, perhaps one of them would consider taking a donation to make the old FreeBSD olicom drivers work on FreeBSD 9? Jay West EZwind.net PO Box 460474 Saint Louis, MO 63146 Voice: (314) 262-4143 ext 1000 Toll Free: (866) 343-2589 Fax: (314) 558-9284 jwest@ezwind.net -------------------------------------------- This e-mail transmission may contain information that is proprietary, privileged and/or confidential and is intended exclusively for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. Any use, copying, retention or disclosure by any person other than the intended recipient or the intended recipient's designees is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient or their designee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 17:39:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442151065675 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 17:39:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from oceanpt.safeport.com (oceanpt.safeport.com [65.122.17.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE2A8FC1C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 17:39:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oceanpt.safeport.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q36HHJIM011679 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 13:17:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 13:17:19 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (oceanpt.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:17:20 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Subject: Xorg bug X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 17:39:23 -0000 This is 9.0-RELEASE with all else installed via pkg_add. Xorg is 7.5.1; xdm is 1.1.11. When logging out or terminating Xorg the screen flashes a line that is the login pattern at the top of the screen. The rest of the screen is black. ctrl-alt-F1 switches to the console but the monitor is disconnected (e.g., I eventually get 'no signal' as if the system is powered down). ctrl-alt-F9 returns to the xdm login which then works normally. I am using xfce and see no problems after logging. There are no errors logged in .xsession-errors, Xorg.0.log or xdm.log. I get the same symptoms with and without hal and when Xorg is started with startx or startxfce4. xorg.conf is unmodified from a 'Xorg -configure'. The monitor driver select is radeon. The radeonhd driver crashes. The system is not down, as I can ssh into it,the only real bug is that the consoles are not available. I think this is a bug handling the monitor rather than the keyboard because of the 'no signal' indication and the ctrl-alt keys work, I just can not see whats on the console. Is additional logging available? Anybody seen one like this? _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 18:04:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E573106568A for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 18:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from nm22-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.252]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A8D58FC08 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 18:04:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm22.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2012 18:04:52 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.175] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2012 18:04:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1031.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2012 18:04:52 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 831344.45912.bm@omp1031.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 44183 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Apr 2012 18:04:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1333735492; bh=QmYd5wllJE3/iwo1WwSJlcICAkNYc6zwizArEoGbARE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZLJGAMELWzS/uqgeq/qxN1y5TLQyLaENTlrZCEyJ2yqCEb3I6F1dRsr75SzgRmHuVOGQNaqVxFk1DQ1M8Q/8wD3qiwX8pjpXSshWUlAqW5DJDD35TPQ9hJPEZfkqj2fuPH9MNaDwES/y41N/5lt4SYJ1QqJpcV/KmqJ7vH7v68U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=hKLIPHNoY8cTeoeXtTEKPspZtHhEKYotjWnfuexLXkFyLi75xtkXSwXCCxDA0Z52olWuvalbn5LVMdOHhALx3g9xI3JTL/40nVOBjeUD5ocqUGfQgRoSJoAm2WNp3UtuQFmh5/toD/z0meFU52/bJ/TBfePdOSJgi6/zo7MGLqc=; X-YMail-OSG: sMtSpxMVM1kBkdpvqr.QX0.wcpmHjO9L2fa1OdTfUbj7zz5 6z40W_FjqY0D93SeXoJyfAE1.Asweax7MnBo._FUAGrSxCx70S4Jwp0p_K0V rZh6L0cmShoYUzVnHj3MkLfpNI7Ey7Znv1Kx0xAUzSZDHi7LnaNZxBOLEMGO h5CKMbMQjPcFxDRsiJI5L.PoYg6d53yXwLGO2U4DP6vh6u.SJZ1dI2c9jmbe KOycGHsz1TNK961D_unSWiM54xv5UN_nQYdhHoWVFfKWxy0baiwFXKMKE.W2 B7MYW54RfUJbECWjeouDavYFzpND4usTIZeSDyxS8R9VDfwAPDazLFRq00Ac fyv0ZBpr578oPI7pFNk2MBrYcqaIFi1Xv44_3AwrggjnWpwQboRZIsh.NT8h vLLOStuV_AkR4RjWCHSuctEQlzCsC4pOVLZpqCLlA9fyLlUQvOKrCLxJOaX_ ofh3lIpap27dIHhAd Received: from [98.172.152.198] by web130205.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 11:04:52 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 Message-ID: <1333735492.43069.YahooMailNeo@web130205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 11:04:52 -0700 (PDT) From: gahn To: freebsd general questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: learning freebsd kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gahn List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 18:04:58 -0000 hi gurus:=0A=0Ahow could i create the core dumps on freebsd kernel? i am tr= ying to create a kernel core dump on 8.1 but it didn't happen:=0A=0A# sysct= l -w debug.kdb.panic=3D1=0A=0Awell the system went panic, entered the mode = db>. i did "reboot' but there was no core/kernel dumps under /var/crash.=0A= =0Athe customized kernel has those information enabled:=0A=0A# Debugging fo= r use in -current=0Aoptions=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 KDB=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 # Enable kernel debugger support= .=0Aoptions=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 DDB=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 # Support DDB.=0Aoptions=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 G= DB=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 # Support re= mote GDB.=0A=0Auser@host:~:$ sysctl -a | grep debug.kdb=0Adebug.kdb.stop_cp= us: 1=0Adebug.kdb.trap_code: 0=0Adebug.kdb.trap: 0=0Adebug.kdb.panic: 0=0Ad= ebug.kdb.enter: 0=0Adebug.kdb.current: ddb=0Adebug.kdb.available: ddb =0A= =0A=0A=0Aby the way, where is my gdb? on one of my company's machisne, it l= ooks like this:=0A=0Adebug.kdb.available: ddb gdb=0A=0Athank you all=0A=0A/= gahn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 18:08:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317E61065673 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 18:08:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com (mail-wg0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10C18FC14 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 18:08:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds11 with SMTP id ds11so739191wgb.1 for ; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 11:08:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XDhj5cCOs4oA4m42qMSBbjD/8Ssd1bI4DQpPaRXoTes=; b=XiAG+QDV6OQVDxw4puuLPcPc8NlS525FYuXzplpKsZbQA34NejrdVNiWUdD1/io/8z odY9ROEoY9GA9gmR704fpjElRdLb83U+yqfTJWtBCHmX+N7m7zFSG5WpRozDdW5e/uFQ ggiXg4DVcR3/noO8UavqtldAGIh2Uo1rnUVBzzQx3/GMSJJcYE6qFiYwMadLEORsS3KH T6sauo2Yyn+pN2zB4bnypA6oyZegQbHFcDwKgmcZZX0V+K0ioIsWrRWNAlezTh4e97M0 rfkPIVsmC/VAl7ooQQJuWzinNJz+LE00PksKjImOalgmDhIK3Ec+P7bXgD17LSxkQc3k nk6A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.83.198 with SMTP id s6mr13329163wiy.8.1333735727927; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 11:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.13.206 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 11:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.13.206 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 11:08:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 11:08:47 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: doug@safeport.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg bug X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 18:08:55 -0000 On Apr 6, 2012 10:40 AM, wrote: > > This is 9.0-RELEASE with all else installed via pkg_add. Xorg is 7.5.1; xdm is 1.1.11. When logging out or terminating Xorg the screen flashes a line that is the login pattern at the top of the screen. The rest of the screen is black. ctrl-alt-F1 switches to the console but the monitor is disconnected (e.g., I eventually get 'no signal' as if the system is powered down). ctrl-alt-F9 returns to the xdm login which then works normally. I am using xfce and see no problems after logging. There are no errors logged in .xsession-errors, Xorg.0.log or xdm.log. > > I get the same symptoms with and without hal and when Xorg is started with startx or startxfce4. xorg.conf is unmodified from a 'Xorg -configure'. The monitor driver select is radeon. The radeonhd driver crashes. > > The system is not down, as I can ssh into it,the only real bug is that the consoles are not available. I think this is a bug handling the monitor rather than the keyboard because of the 'no signal' indication and the ctrl-alt keys work, I just can not see whats on the console. > > Is additional logging available? Anybody seen one like this? > > > > _____ > Douglas Denault > http://www.safeport.com > doug@safeport.com > Voice: 301-217-9220 > Fax: 301-217-9277 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hi, On my amd64 machine running 10.0-CURRENT with xfce4 the screen turns white when i logout or use the shutdown button. i'm running the latest in packages, will have to check the version. ssh into machine still works except that within 40 seconds or so the machine freezes. my work-around is to do shutdown -r now from terminal, which shuts down before 40 seconds :) shutdown without r does not stop it from freezing. i have not yet taken the time to troubleshoot but maybe this weekend ill get the details together and try to see what the problem is. Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 18:13:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D671065672 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 18:13:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7838E8FC15 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 18:13:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pps.filterd (ltcfislmsgpa03 [127.0.0.1]) by ltcfislmsgpa03.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id q36HQIn2030962; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 13:13:11 -0500 Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.16]) by ltcfislmsgpa03.fnfis.com with ESMTP id 141puwjked-3 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:13:11 -0500 Received: from dtwin (10.14.152.15) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 13:13:09 -0500 From: Devin Teske To: "'gahn'" , "'freebsd general questions'" References: <1333735492.43069.YahooMailNeo@web130205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1333735492.43069.YahooMailNeo@web130205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 11:13:21 -0700 Message-ID: <08b701cd1420$f4e21a60$dea64f20$@fisglobal.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQFbTu7BJ/ePPQkSZQnF+VFqrVz8Y5dxoy2g Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.15] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7498, 1.0.260, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-04-06_03:2012-04-05, 2012-04-06, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Cc: Subject: RE: learning freebsd kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 18:13:17 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of gahn > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 11:05 AM > To: freebsd general questions > Subject: learning freebsd kernel >=20 > hi gurus: >=20 > how could i create the core dumps on freebsd kernel? i am trying to creat= e a > kernel core dump on 8.1 but it didn't happen: >=20 > # sysctl -w debug.kdb.panic=3D1 >=20 > well the system went panic, entered the mode db>. i did "reboot' but ther= e was > no core/kernel dumps under /var/crash. >=20 Did you set the "dumpdev" directive in /etc/rc.conf? % grep dumpdev /etc/defaults/rc.conf dumpdev=3D"NO" # Device name to crashdump to (or NO). savecore_flags=3D"" # Used if dumpdev is enabled above, and present. You should set the value of dumpdev to your swap device. You can get this value by executing the following: awk '$3~/swap/{print $1}' /etc/fstab Should produce something like "/dev/mfid0s1b" or "da0s1b" or "ada0s1b" or "ad0s1b" etc. depending on your RELEASE and hardware. If the output is, for example, "/dev/mfid0s1b", you should add the followin= g to /etc/rc.conf: dumpdev=3D"/dev/mfid0s1b" --=20 Devin > the customized kernel has those information enabled: >=20 > # Debugging for use in -current > options=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 KDB=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 # Enable kernel debugger support. > options=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 DDB=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 # Support DDB. > options=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 GDB=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 # Support remote GDB. >=20 > user@host:~:$ sysctl -a | grep debug.kdb > debug.kdb.stop_cpus: 1 > debug.kdb.trap_code: 0 > debug.kdb.trap: 0 > debug.kdb.panic: 0 > debug.kdb.enter: 0 > debug.kdb.current: ddb > debug.kdb.available: ddb >=20 >=20 >=20 > by the way, where is my gdb? on one of my company's machisne, it looks li= ke > this: >=20 > debug.kdb.available: ddb gdb >=20 > thank you all >=20 > /gahn > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 19:01:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F40106564A for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 19:01:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from oceanpt.safeport.com (oceanpt.safeport.com [65.122.17.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9568FC0C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 19:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oceanpt.safeport.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q36J1F4m014175; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 15:01:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 15:01:14 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com To: Waitman Gobble In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2065771026-1185832698-1333738875=:15917" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (oceanpt.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 06 Apr 2012 15:01:15 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg bug X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 19:01:16 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---2065771026-1185832698-1333738875=:15917 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 6 Apr 2012, Waitman Gobble wrote: > On Apr 6, 2012 10:40 AM, wrote: > > > > This is 9.0-RELEASE with all else installed via pkg_add. Xorg is 7.5.1; xdm is > 1.1.11. When logging out or terminating Xorg the screen flashes a line that is the > login pattern at the top of the screen. The rest of the screen is black. > ctrl-alt-F1 switches to the console but the monitor is disconnected (e.g., I > eventually get 'no signal' as if the system is powered down). ctrl-alt-F9 returns > to the xdm login which then works normally. I am using xfce and see no problems > after logging. There are no errors logged in .xsession-errors, Xorg.0.log or > xdm.log. > > > > I get the same symptoms with and without hal  and when Xorg is started with > startx or startxfce4. xorg.conf is unmodified from a 'Xorg -configure'. The > monitor driver select is radeon. The radeonhd driver crashes. > > > > The system is not down, as I can ssh into it,the only real bug is that the > consoles are not available. I think this is a bug handling the monitor rather than > the keyboard because of the 'no signal' indication and the ctrl-alt keys work, I > just can not see whats on the console. > > > > Is additional logging available? Anybody seen one like this? > > Hi, > > On my amd64 machine running 10.0-CURRENT with xfce4 the screen turns white when i > logout or use the shutdown button. i'm running the latest in packages, will have > to check the version. > > ssh into machine still works except that within 40 seconds or so the machine > freezes. my work-around is to do shutdown -r now from terminal, which shuts down > before 40 seconds  :) shutdown without r does not stop it from freezing. > > i have not yet taken the time to troubleshoot but maybe this weekend ill get the > details together and try to see what the problem is. Thanks. AFAIK my system does not freeze but I do not know that I have waited it out either. I will let you know with a list-only post. _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 ---2065771026-1185832698-1333738875=:15917-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 19:38:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F66E106564A for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 19:38:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baerks@t-online.de) Received: from mailout11.t-online.de (mailout11.t-online.de [194.25.134.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DDA98FC12 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 19:38:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fwd20.aul.t-online.de (fwd20.aul.t-online.de ) by mailout11.t-online.de with smtp id 1SGEal-0007aJ-68; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 21:13:03 +0200 Received: from amd.mersam.homelinux.org (ZwgTTYZbohFsgBKlWV3OmT1GIztrhze6gl0L6kXMA2BxapuJ1rjlcCdCpUK+3TwQGP@[91.6.193.4]) by fwd20.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1SGEak-1pyDlw0; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 21:13:02 +0200 Received: from amd.catfish.ddns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amd.mersam.homelinux.org (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q36JDJlH026841; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 21:13:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from monkel@amd.catfish.ddns.org) Received: (from monkel@localhost) by amd.catfish.ddns.org (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q36JDJdf026839; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 21:13:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from monkel) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 21:13:18 +0200 From: Sabine Baer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120406191318.GI1243@amd.catfish.ddns.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon References: <20120311081750.GR9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20120311170548.GT9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20120312184224.GU9223@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20120312225747.b7e68635.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120315202441.GA74550@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <4F64D2E5.8000800@gmx.de> <20120319065104.GA91786@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20120319083553.288a6126.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20120319083553.288a6126.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-ID: ZwgTTYZbohFsgBKlWV3OmT1GIztrhze6gl0L6kXMA2BxapuJ1rjlcCdCpUK+3TwQGP X-TOI-MSGID: 7a482e19-45fc-4290-a5a3-22cfd34e89cc Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: Can't install WindowMaker X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 19:38:07 -0000 On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 08:35:53AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: [...] Sorry for not having answered long time, but I t'was a little difficult to understand 'portdowngrade'. I had to search for the right server. But now it did the Job. > Im Zweifelsfall installier Dir mal "portdowngrade" und zieh > eine ältere Version von WindowMaker, vielleicht compiliert > die ja? Yes, I have a running WindowMaker :-))) [...] > At least the port is not maked _not_ to build on v7, so it > basically _should_ work. Now it is. I cvsupped the ports this morning and there is a changed Makefile whis has the hint, that version 0.95.2 will not compile under 7.n. :-| Sabine -- "Wissenschaftlich betrachtet wird das Häuschen kaputt sein." (Th. Waschke in dswc auf die Frage eines wissenschftlich Interessierten, was mit einem Holzhaus, in dem eine Atombombe gezuendet wird, passiere.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 20:02:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB059106566C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:02:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from nm1.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm1.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AEDF8FC18 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:02:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.52.188] by nm1.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2012 20:02:03 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.178] by tm1.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2012 20:02:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1061.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2012 20:02:03 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 15180.90976.bm@omp1061.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 38514 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Apr 2012 20:02:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1333742522; bh=EB39y64Uh1Z7UMraCUZLmhy1Zu9rM7PIXtxUBSCGbO8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=xaDauihR+bwbgo3hfFeqz5yML7++fjRnEVdNJ0fzoirMG6rruU0kP9VfOpYdgX3pLJrT1mshZaZXnvjyMGSC7DdCPtR5nol/iu1c3mRS1ojFuLBZ0/xNOZBzZTnCO0gqf/QXBam6dKUk23Cdv0WH3uIIx8kpcQOO5eaU/4RNyDs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OBD4Vx28qFwxYK4cH+SpC6yT2qLd6MnuMIpKZvHs0Yb4sihc6RWoQc06quY/No2AcQcidxZUv62cScXKEHZKDvLrMFi7y6eFKssAsaOVNkIk9F2k9IZFqIbmgq8MDmyZ16Y9xQCDhw4uRNpypmAZ04Pj0HrsobiO19CKlQydmFQ=; X-YMail-OSG: I6wfxyYVM1mxn9tdAUNY8HBRlytvcPQEYTzQcmhYn9Opky. bctN8MX2jSJNzhoyqG5NGMCUmd4mcG4aNrzfCQ59AbLJrFiBxMPrqsCWM_Mw fQoXcZ5_cZ4naxMQMFs1kH_2bfiZ49EMt3YhVdSTyQzpyiN4kTOJQSCjEnMq AG_H4Qb3kZxxi4SZYzDLSq4v0hmAVH.oWdu3LoyXlhXB6cs5.FjvQyqdpX3M MqnITaOdtgzQg8EpCxvBXx5XJGricBkgJ_weMVqBmHST.6b9ay_AVBOVLABI UUJdlOePYf8WbS0ORYiVL3Xh0f3pi9iLOlfr9wJtiY3i731n7J.MizU2dAXV u6POmQIWZnEuj_XudYgGvdc7l3icWEF4NvgJwurJjNFuDy0mT0v_X_5FQyE2 qX5YAgz2WrOYDw9TN7JnwT8y50_dmHl.boYtcEHz0X_EuUckzA.9yP4x7ttz c0wrs_1Ji5qHcR7WsgbXG Received: from [98.172.152.198] by web130202.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:02:02 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 References: <1333735492.43069.YahooMailNeo@web130205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <08b701cd1420$f4e21a60$dea64f20$@fisglobal.com> Message-ID: <1333742522.34885.YahooMailNeo@web130202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 13:02:02 -0700 (PDT) From: gahn To: Devin Teske , 'freebsd general questions' In-Reply-To: <08b701cd1420$f4e21a60$dea64f20$@fisglobal.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: learning freebsd kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gahn List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 20:02:09 -0000 thanks devin for the great tip. yeah, now i got core dumps...:)=0A=0Abut wh= ere is my "gdb" under that "debug.kdb.available"?=0A=0Abest=0A=0A/gahn=0A= =0A=0A=0A----- Original Message -----=0AFrom: Devin Teske =0ATo: 'gahn' ; 'freebsd general questions' =0ACc: =0ASent: Friday, April 6, 2012 2:13 PM= =0ASubject: RE: learning freebsd kernel=0A=0A=0A=0A> -----Original Message-= ----=0A> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-= =0A> questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of gahn=0A> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2= 012 11:05 AM=0A> To: freebsd general questions=0A> Subject: learning freebs= d kernel=0A> =0A> hi gurus:=0A> =0A> how could i create the core dumps on f= reebsd kernel? i am trying to create a=0A> kernel core dump on 8.1 but it d= idn't happen:=0A> =0A> # sysctl -w debug.kdb.panic=3D1=0A> =0A> well the sy= stem went panic, entered the mode db>. i did "reboot' but there was=0A> no = core/kernel dumps under /var/crash.=0A> =0A=0ADid you set the "dumpdev" dir= ective in /etc/rc.conf?=0A=0A% grep dumpdev /etc/defaults/rc.conf=0Adumpdev= =3D"NO"=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 # Device name to crashdump to (or NO).=0Asav= ecore_flags=3D""=A0 =A0 =A0 # Used if dumpdev is enabled above, and presen= t.=0A=0AYou should set the value of dumpdev to your swap device.=0A=0AYou c= an get this value by executing the following:=0A=0Aawk '$3~/swap/{print $1}= ' /etc/fstab=0A=0AShould produce something like "/dev/mfid0s1b" or "da0s1b"= or "ada0s1b" or=0A"ad0s1b" etc. depending on your RELEASE and hardware.=0A= =0AIf the output is, for example, "/dev/mfid0s1b", you should add the follo= wing to=0A/etc/rc.conf:=0A=0Adumpdev=3D"/dev/mfid0s1b"=0A=0A-- =0ADevin=0A= =0A=0A> the customized kernel has those information enabled:=0A> =0A> # Deb= ugging for use in -current=0A> options=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 KDB=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 # Enable kernel debugge= r support.=0A> options=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 DDB=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 # Support DDB.=0A> options=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0 GDB=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0 # Support remote GDB.=0A> =0A> user@host:~:$ sysctl -a | grep debug.kdb= =0A> debug.kdb.stop_cpus: 1=0A> debug.kdb.trap_code: 0=0A> debug.kdb.trap: = 0=0A> debug.kdb.panic: 0=0A> debug.kdb.enter: 0=0A> debug.kdb.current: ddb= =0A> debug.kdb.available: ddb=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> by the way, where is my gd= b? on one of my company's machisne, it looks like=0A> this:=0A> =0A> debug.= kdb.available: ddb gdb=0A> =0A> thank you all=0A> =0A> /gahn=0A> __________= _____________________________________=0A> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mai= ling list=0A> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions= =0A> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebs= d.org"=0A=0A_____________=0AThe information contained in this message is pr= oprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, pleas= e: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute = or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. = In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is su= bject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient.= Thank you.=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 20:12:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A601065670 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:12:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F7D8FC08 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pps.filterd (ltcfislmsgpa07 [127.0.0.1]) by ltcfislmsgpa07.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id q36JahNp032317; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 15:12:52 -0500 Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.16]) by ltcfislmsgpa07.fnfis.com with ESMTP id 1426sn839b-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 06 Apr 2012 15:12:52 -0500 Received: from dtwin (10.14.152.15) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 15:12:52 -0500 From: Devin Teske To: "'gahn'" , "'freebsd general questions'" References: <1333735492.43069.YahooMailNeo@web130205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <08b701cd1420$f4e21a60$dea64f20$@fisglobal.com> <1333742522.34885.YahooMailNeo@web130202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1333742522.34885.YahooMailNeo@web130202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 13:13:05 -0700 Message-ID: <08eb01cd1431$adfc5280$09f4f780$@fisglobal.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQFbTu7BJ/ePPQkSZQnF+VFqrVz8YwHaL5RjAeVk3vCXU8cgQA== Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.15] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7498, 1.0.260, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-04-06_03:2012-04-05, 2012-04-06, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Cc: Subject: RE: learning freebsd kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 20:12:53 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: gahn [mailto:ipfreak@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 1:02 PM > To: Devin Teske; 'freebsd general questions' > Subject: Re: learning freebsd kernel >=20 > thanks devin for the great tip. yeah, now i got core dumps...:) >=20 > but where is my "gdb" under that "debug.kdb.available"? >=20 I'm not sure I understand the question. debug.kdb.available shows "ddb" for me I usually use kgdb(1) for examining kernel core files. --=20 Devin > best >=20 > /gahn >=20 >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Devin Teske > To: 'gahn' ; 'freebsd general questions' questions@freebsd.org> > Cc: > Sent: Friday, April 6, 2012 2:13 PM > Subject: RE: learning freebsd kernel >=20 >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of gahn > > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 11:05 AM > > To: freebsd general questions > > Subject: learning freebsd kernel > > > > hi gurus: > > > > how could i create the core dumps on freebsd kernel? i am trying to cre= ate a > > kernel core dump on 8.1 but it didn't happen: > > > > # sysctl -w debug.kdb.panic=3D1 > > > > well the system went panic, entered the mode db>. i did "reboot' but th= ere > was > > no core/kernel dumps under /var/crash. > > >=20 > Did you set the "dumpdev" directive in /etc/rc.conf? >=20 > % grep dumpdev /etc/defaults/rc.conf > dumpdev=3D"NO"=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 # Device name to crashdump to (or N= O). > savecore_flags=3D""=A0 =A0 =A0 # Used if dumpdev is enabled above, and p= resent. >=20 > You should set the value of dumpdev to your swap device. >=20 > You can get this value by executing the following: >=20 > awk '$3~/swap/{print $1}' /etc/fstab >=20 > Should produce something like "/dev/mfid0s1b" or "da0s1b" or "ada0s1b" or > "ad0s1b" etc. depending on your RELEASE and hardware. >=20 > If the output is, for example, "/dev/mfid0s1b", you should add the follow= ing to > /etc/rc.conf: >=20 > dumpdev=3D"/dev/mfid0s1b" >=20 > -- > Devin >=20 >=20 > > the customized kernel has those information enabled: > > > > # Debugging for use in -current > > options=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 KDB=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 # Enable kernel debugger support. > > options=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 DDB=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 # Support DDB. > > options=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 GDB=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 # Support remote GDB. > > > > user@host:~:$ sysctl -a | grep debug.kdb > > debug.kdb.stop_cpus: 1 > > debug.kdb.trap_code: 0 > > debug.kdb.trap: 0 > > debug.kdb.panic: 0 > > debug.kdb.enter: 0 > > debug.kdb.current: ddb > > debug.kdb.available: ddb > > > > > > > > by the way, where is my gdb? on one of my company's machisne, it looks = like > > this: > > > > debug.kdb.available: ddb gdb > > > > thank you all > > > > /gahn > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > _____________ > The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confident= ial. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 20:15:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5EE4106564A for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [75.99.82.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB268FC15 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio Connect 7.0.0 patch 1) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Fri, 6 Apr 2012 15:45:43 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: mikel king In-Reply-To: <000801cd141b$01c9fe60$055dfb20$@net> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 15:45:43 -0400 Message-Id: References: <000301cd1412$b39c1550$1ad43ff0$@net> <000801cd141b$01c9fe60$055dfb20$@net> To: "Jay West" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Token Ring (really) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 20:16:00 -0000 On Apr 6, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Jay West wrote: > Well over 20 years experience with FreeBSD, and I was not aware of = "Project > Evil" ;) >=20 > I don't know if my olicom card has NDIS versions of their driver for = token > ring, but if so, that just might work! Still, getting the deprecated = oltr > driver on FreeBSD9 would be awesome.... >=20 > Jay West > EZwind.net > PO Box 460474 > Saint Louis, MO 63146 > Voice: (314) 262-4143 ext 1000 > Toll Free: (866) 343-2589 > Fax: (314) 558-9284 > jwest@ezwind.net >=20 Jay, What is the last version of FreeBSD that your card was supported = on? Perhaps it would be worth firing up that older version. I know it's = a long shot but at least you would have access to the driver code that = may actually still work in the current version.=20 It would certainly make an interesting story if you sort it all = out. Regards, Mikel King BSD News Network http://bsdnews.net skype: mikel.king http://twitter.com/mikelking From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 20:29:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540C1106566C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378C98FC0C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:29:36 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=Lhf5NWyQwlxAzRwdM/kZUkC/REMlgRel2QmgJlVHQvU=; b=EQfxdVbviBLFEvC34Q/kE/U7SaORIBRLKvThCdmvVP4xRgPcQ54GQY6/G6mp3V2pMJwh4etScoKSdqVTL75mxIgjiy//Fn4nFCb7QT/WMcrb1DpFXBhm/yIS5CaH2+VdsAuvo5MhVpTbM+xS8X0W70xpuAnskXb3VBDiUTFKZgA= Received: from [10.0.10.1] ([173.88.209.140]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 6 Apr 2012 13:29:30 -0700 Message-ID: <4F7F522C.4040309@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 16:29:32 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Apr 2012 20:29:30.0777 (UTC) FILETIME=[F872C090:01CD1433] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Subject: ipfilter mystery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 20:29:36 -0000 Running 9.0 and connecting to Time Warner for the first time. I have private lan behind my 9.0 box. I have made a real simple rule set and nat rule just to get log of what is happing. ipfilter rules. dc0 faces lan, fxp0 faces public internet pass in log quick on dc0 all pass out log quick on dc0 all #pass in quick on fxp0 from 10.2.0.1 pass in log quick on fxp0 all pass out log quick on fxp0 all pass in quick on lo0 all pass out quick on lo0 all nat rule map fxp0 10.0.10.0/29 -> 0/32 Ipmon log fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.1,67 -> 255.255.255.255,68 PR udp len 20 328 IN bad broadcast fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.1,67 -> 255.255.255.255,68 PR udp len 20 328 IN bad broadcast fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.1,67 -> 255.255.255.255,68 PR udp len 20 328 IN bad broadcast fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.1,67 -> 255.255.255.255,68 PR udp len 20 328 IN bad broadcast fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.1,67 -> 255.255.255.255,68 PR udp len 20 384 IN bad broadcast fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.1,67 -> 255.255.255.255,68 PR udp len 20 384 IN bad broadcast fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.1,67 -> 255.255.255.255,68 PR udp len 20 328 IN bad broadcast dc0 @0:1 p 10.0.10.1,55884 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 61 IN fxp0 @0:2 p 177.99.209.140,55884 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 61 OUT NAT fxp0 @0:2 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,55884 PR udp len 20 95 IN bad NAT dc0 @0:1 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,55884 PR udp len 20 95 OUT bad dc0 @0:1 p 10.0.10.1,55660 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 64 IN fxp0 @0:2 p 177.99.209.140,55660 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 64 OUT NAT dc0 @0:1 p 10.0.10.1,51926 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 62 IN fxp0 @0:2 p 177.99.209.140,51926 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 62 OUT NAT dc0 @0:1 p 10.0.10.1,58697 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 61 IN fxp0 @0:2 p 177.99.209.140,58697 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 61 OUT NAT fxp0 @0:2 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,55660 PR udp len 20 80 IN bad NAT dc0 @0:1 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,55660 PR udp len 20 80 OUT bad dc0 @0:1 p 10.0.10.1,49947 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 64 IN fxp0 @0:2 p 177.99.209.140,49947 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 64 OUT NAT fxp0 @0:2 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,58697 PR udp len 20 77 IN bad NAT dc0 @0:1 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,58697 PR udp len 20 77 OUT bad fxp0 @0:2 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,51926 PR udp len 20 100 IN bad NAT dc0 @0:1 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,51926 PR udp len 20 100 OUT bad dc0 @0:1 p 10.0.10.1,49901 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 63 IN fxp0 @0:2 p 177.99.209.140,49901 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 63 OUT NAT dc0 @0:1 p 10.0.10.1,59865 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 66 IN fxp0 @0:2 p 177.99.209.140,59865 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 66 OUT NAT fxp0 @0:2 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,59865 PR udp len 20 82 IN bad NAT dc0 @0:1 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,59865 PR udp len 20 82 OUT bad dc0 @0:1 p 10.0.10.1,53742 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 71 IN fxp0 @0:2 p 177.99.209.140,53742 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 71 OUT NAT fxp0 @0:2 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,49947 PR udp len 20 116 IN bad NAT dc0 @0:1 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,49947 PR udp len 20 116 OUT bad fxp0 @0:2 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,49901 PR udp len 20 99 IN bad NAT dc0 @0:1 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,49901 PR udp len 20 99 OUT bad fxp0 @0:2 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,53742 PR udp len 20 120 IN bad NAT dc0 @0:1 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,53742 PR udp len 20 120 OUT bad fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.1,67 -> 255.255.255.255,68 PR udp len 20 328 IN bad broadcast dc0 @0:1 p 10.0.10.1,1320 -> 69.147.83.34,80 PR tcp len 20 48 -S IN fxp0 @0:2 p 177.99.209.140,1320 -> 69.147.83.34,80 PR tcp len 20 48 -S OUT NAT 10.0.10.1 is the laptop in the lan. 10.2.0.1 is being sent by time warner I can not understand why I am getting the "IN bad NAT" The webpage loaded ok on the lan laptop. I have been using ipfilter since release 3.2 and this is the first isp i ever got this kind of problem with. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 20:46:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72134106566B for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:46:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from nm34-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm34-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2FD548FC08 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:46:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.53] by nm34.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2012 20:44:03 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.237] by tm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2012 20:44:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1037.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2012 20:44:02 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 959163.60633.bm@omp1037.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 29831 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Apr 2012 20:44:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1333745042; bh=TlcFZiYho6aQhseNhfi0x9OKiFAYx5IsIZlWPkNlqIQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=stWgT1Oj9zrDIfW83COCGgydvcT0XnNnZu14MpOjNKzZIZgkw9GV2c299/ihnG3gyEWWlDYIdPPV+FGXN7GKhmnEefVvQ5cjhmlXpoJNVqIEZNZG8zpFnGgwD6zZMRtP0/d5yeBeBacfsXq8NzRVK8AJtvLki6Mw7TspCjWAD38= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1UrqBsx7wZJBJFX4wseU79R3UZwdizZcz+KEVss18LNXdouNjeRtH39iU2IIW5x2GkxFnEoo+zVlW35XKjaAtw77LG9XGdZAsK0K9sQpGgDy8zWZ28LGX/CEcf6bYtrIArWuQZA5VBDMDD0bgx7UScHrvC4E4tPJyjFjLsjCf8U=; X-YMail-OSG: Za8C7DYVM1n2rCioTmwphUD7RRMVhp8nyQynJ5CCCBGs59B Y8ITM4xdgd4Ifb07aEE__Yemprm_wImldf.gDm.pKbZ4Jkeh3pwUpCaXCiI5 y74JogH3mymsUqc3kCFQyhGcjZyzYNexoLdFww94Bwl_ayhkc9NOeR9S_FdS L.q10gTXAKnSSs1Pt.EFQUWmblobeMS_2QGBuaR17xMn9n5YjlzUZYtPkPD6 SNKM.fLW2jipMSgtGK0RT2Am20sHwNrGGqnBwU8roc095xPGSL9dEKL_MNs. xeYADvH9blmQqAQSDnKVJLRYaGRL8oZM56vVKHxYGrRFzPVwyJGB6xdQMzRo Ht7OEMuG3sjBsHLPurKpb9kRPFQIwGITgbEaM_rLcEpT4K97o2DzoZfcFLIG J1zS8OT68cxY_VwxbeImnrpM85BO7XCzcGvik90IpclEAl8oFbTzUSju5j8f RuYEb1Y0g3ShH_MV7tzqYvP3UymqRFOHjHs72OA-- Received: from [98.172.152.198] by web130205.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:44:02 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 References: <1333735492.43069.YahooMailNeo@web130205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <08b701cd1420$f4e21a60$dea64f20$@fisglobal.com> <1333742522.34885.YahooMailNeo@web130202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <08eb01cd1431$adfc5280$09f4f780$@fisglobal.com> Message-ID: <1333745042.8621.YahooMailNeo@web130205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 13:44:02 -0700 (PDT) From: gahn To: Devin Teske , 'freebsd general questions' In-Reply-To: <08eb01cd1431$adfc5280$09f4f780$@fisglobal.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: learning freebsd kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gahn List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 20:46:04 -0000 thanks devin:=0A=0Awhat i meant was that one of my company's servers looks = like this:=0A=0Adebug.kdb.available: ddb gdb=0A=0A=0Ai am just wondering wh= y that is...=0A=0Abest=0A=0A/gahn=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message -----= =0AFrom: Devin Teske =0ATo: 'gahn' ; 'freebsd general questions' =0ACc: = =0ASent: Friday, April 6, 2012 4:13 PM=0ASubject: RE: learning freebsd kern= el=0A=0A> -----Original Message-----=0A> From: gahn [mailto:ipfreak@yahoo.c= om]=0A> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 1:02 PM=0A> To: Devin Teske; 'freebsd = general questions'=0A> Subject: Re: learning freebsd kernel=0A> =0A> thanks= devin for the great tip. yeah, now i got core dumps...:)=0A> =0A> but wher= e is my "gdb" under that "debug.kdb.available"?=0A> =0A=0AI'm not sure I un= derstand the question.=0A=0Adebug.kdb.available shows "ddb" for me=0A=0AI u= sually use kgdb(1) for examining kernel core files.=0A-- =0ADevin=0A=0A=0A>= best=0A> =0A> /gahn=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> ----- Original Message -----=0A> Fr= om: Devin Teske =0A> To: 'gahn' ; 'freebsd general questions' questions@freebsd.org>=0A> C= c:=0A> Sent: Friday, April 6, 2012 2:13 PM=0A> Subject: RE: learning freebs= d kernel=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> > -----Original Message-----=0A> > From: owner-= freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-=0A> > questions@freebs= d.org] On Behalf Of gahn=0A> > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 11:05 AM=0A> > = To: freebsd general questions=0A> > Subject: learning freebsd kernel=0A> >= =0A> > hi gurus:=0A> >=0A> > how could i create the core dumps on freebsd k= ernel? i am trying to create a=0A> > kernel core dump on 8.1 but it didn't = happen:=0A> >=0A> > # sysctl -w debug.kdb.panic=3D1=0A> >=0A> > well the sy= stem went panic, entered the mode db>. i did "reboot' but there=0A> was=0A>= > no core/kernel dumps under /var/crash.=0A> >=0A> =0A> Did you set the "d= umpdev" directive in /etc/rc.conf?=0A> =0A> % grep dumpdev /etc/defaults/rc= .conf=0A> dumpdev=3D"NO"=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 # Device name to crashdump = to (or NO).=0A> savecore_flags=3D""=A0 =A0 =A0=A0 # Used if dumpdev is enab= led above, and present.=0A> =0A> You should set the value of dumpdev to you= r swap device.=0A> =0A> You can get this value by executing the following:= =0A> =0A> awk '$3~/swap/{print $1}' /etc/fstab=0A> =0A> Should produce some= thing like "/dev/mfid0s1b" or "da0s1b" or "ada0s1b" or=0A> "ad0s1b" etc. de= pending on your RELEASE and hardware.=0A> =0A> If the output is, for exampl= e, "/dev/mfid0s1b", you should add the following=0Ato=0A> /etc/rc.conf:=0A>= =0A> dumpdev=3D"/dev/mfid0s1b"=0A> =0A> --=0A> Devin=0A> =0A> =0A> > the c= ustomized kernel has those information enabled:=0A> >=0A> > # Debugging for= use in -current=0A> > options=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 KDB=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 # Enable kernel debugger supp= ort.=0A> > options=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 DDB=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 # Support DDB.=0A> > options=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0 GDB=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0 # Support remote GDB.=0A> >=0A> > user@host:~:$ sysctl -a | grep debug.= kdb=0A> > debug.kdb.stop_cpus: 1=0A> > debug.kdb.trap_code: 0=0A> > debug.k= db.trap: 0=0A> > debug.kdb.panic: 0=0A> > debug.kdb.enter: 0=0A> > debug.kd= b.current: ddb=0A> > debug.kdb.available: ddb=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > by th= e way, where is my gdb? on one of my company's machisne, it looks like=0A> = > this:=0A> >=0A> > debug.kdb.available: ddb gdb=0A> >=0A> > thank you all= =0A> >=0A> > /gahn=0A> > _______________________________________________=0A= > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0A> > http://lists.freebsd.o= rg/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> > To unsubscribe, send any mail t= o "freebsd-questions-=0A> unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A> =0A> _____________= =0A> The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confid= ential.=0AIf=0A> you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the= message and all=0Acopies;=0A> (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the = message in any manner; and (iii)=0Anotify=0A> the sender immediately. In ad= dition, please be aware that any message=0A> addressed to our domain is sub= ject to archiving and review by persons other=0Athan=0A> the intended recip= ient. Thank you.=0A=0A=0A_____________=0AThe information contained in this = message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended rec= ipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose= , distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender = immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our= domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intend= ed recipient. Thank you.=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 20:53:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF037106566C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:53:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdb@ssr.com) Received: from mailhost.ssr.com (mailhost.ssr.com [199.4.235.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 98D308FC15 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 86294 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2012 20:47:09 -0000 Received: from pool-72-89-112-74.nycmny.east.verizon.net (HELO irelay.ssr.com) (sdb@72.89.112.74) by 199.4.235.5 with SMTP; 6 Apr 2012 20:47:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 12245 invoked by uid 103); 6 Apr 2012 20:30:48 -0000 Date: 6 Apr 2012 20:30:48 -0000 Message-ID: <20120406203048.12244.qmail@irelay.ssr.com> From: Scott Ballantyne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with openjdk6 in Freebsd 9.0.. solved X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 20:53:42 -0000 Another little problem in 9.0 is building openjdk6. Should anyone else get this message while compiling: Unable to load ZIP library: /usr/local/diablo-jrel.6.0/lib/amd64/libzip.so or something similar, adding libz.so.4 libz.so.5 to /etc/libmap.conf seems to solve it. Have a nice day :) Scott -- sdb@ssr.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 7 00:24:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97D4106564A for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 00:24:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1C98FC08 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 00:24:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3VPdfv1gNKzhC for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:18:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 20:18:46 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <6A3E745183AB13568985C45C@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: how often to update ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:25:00 -0000 --As of March 30, 2012 4:31:49 PM -0400, Aleksandr Miroslav is alleged to have said: > So I'm curious, how often do you keep your ports update, and what are > the reasons for doing so? --As for the rest, it is mine. I do my home server on a monthly schedule, unless I see something come up in portaudit. I find it easier to keep roughly up to date, and that's a convient timeframe. It's also how often I go on call at work, so I have a reminder. ;) Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 7 02:27:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC9E106564A for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 02:27:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwest@ezwind.net) Received: from ezwind.net (bobby.ezwind.net [209.145.140.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76208FC12 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 02:27:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from LENOVOD6B52A6B by ezwind.net (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.3.R) with ESMTP id 01-md50000130226.msg for ; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 21:27:27 -0500 From: "Jay West" To: "'mikel king'" References: <000301cd1412$b39c1550$1ad43ff0$@net> <000801cd141b$01c9fe60$055dfb20$@net> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 21:27:25 -0500 Message-ID: <000001cd1465$f8d56740$ea8035c0$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac0UMicR3cVJAXZEQ36wk1b2jLt5CQAMqJNg Content-Language: en-us X-Authenticated-Sender: jwest@ezwind.net X-Spam-Processed: gateway.ezwind.net, Fri, 06 Apr 2012 21:27:27 -0500 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 71.14.76.230 X-Return-Path: jwest@ezwind.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Token Ring (really) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 02:27:49 -0000 Well, found the XP drivers for the card (it's a Madge Smart MK4 PCI adapter, not olicom as I thought). Ndisgen seemed to work fine After kldloading the resulting module, ifconfig shows: ndis0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 00:00:00:ee:ed:c6 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX) status: no carrier It is connected though (via DB9, not RJ45). I don't see how you can specify 4mbps or 16mbps, attempting the oltr media types for example "UTP/4mbps" says no such media type. I am wondering if the ndisgen utility is only designed for ndis Ethernet cards instead of my case - ndis token ring. :( Jay West EZwind.net PO Box 460474 Saint Louis, MO 63146 Voice: (314) 262-4143 ext 1000 Toll Free: (866) 343-2589 Fax: (314) 558-9284 jwest@ezwind.net -------------------------------------------- This e-mail transmission may contain information that is proprietary, privileged and/or confidential and is intended exclusively for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. Any use, copying, retention or disclosure by any person other than the intended recipient or the intended recipient's designees is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient or their designee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of mikel king Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 2:46 PM To: Jay West Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Token Ring (really) On Apr 6, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Jay West wrote: > Well over 20 years experience with FreeBSD, and I was not aware of > "Project Evil" ;) > > I don't know if my olicom card has NDIS versions of their driver for > token ring, but if so, that just might work! Still, getting the > deprecated oltr driver on FreeBSD9 would be awesome.... > > Jay West > EZwind.net > PO Box 460474 > Saint Louis, MO 63146 > Voice: (314) 262-4143 ext 1000 > Toll Free: (866) 343-2589 > Fax: (314) 558-9284 > jwest@ezwind.net > Jay, What is the last version of FreeBSD that your card was supported on? Perhaps it would be worth firing up that older version. I know it's a long shot but at least you would have access to the driver code that may actually still work in the current version. It would certainly make an interesting story if you sort it all out. Regards, Mikel King BSD News Network http://bsdnews.net skype: mikel.king http://twitter.com/mikelking _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 7 03:16:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE38106564A for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 03:16:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D2278FC08 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 03:16:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wern13 with SMTP id n13so2249394wer.13 for ; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 20:16:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=qHnAjXR5AZQWQsApMJr2YxccGi2QMLZaK9J53Z2rk54=; b=XFYGWBL7GvDBSqP+kREEZKdiN9pCApwwL7uGtH7zRgl5yidX/8hOsRSZYH2fX73Qgh F/oy3ycMzT3BbO/LJq12y6k5Njg0mgPw6ryWCipKG4iHAS9BHYHds2sM+SYH7uTYpmMh rhkPiE+dXZ1pvXs7Qn9weVFbdjjNLP9DQqBU1lnK0IehK0aTkKjRH5eUgkQahkagf8xD bze9sk/xMOgOH/rerYVMJm/Zz4cF5GhdAOodENT2lhKApFSk4B9dG+iGsGG6aroU4pTE lTFLKPrKa0M+QmoUB+9mYMREaGZipg4TnRq1nocgqAOr0mFIC6miWwgCb/4wpx56+KhT PqXQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.102.102 with SMTP id fn6mr686180wib.10.1333768592397; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 20:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.94.73 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:16:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <000001cd1465$f8d56740$ea8035c0$@net> References: <000301cd1412$b39c1550$1ad43ff0$@net> <000801cd141b$01c9fe60$055dfb20$@net> <000001cd1465$f8d56740$ea8035c0$@net> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 22:16:32 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Jay West Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: mikel king , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Token Ring (really) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 03:16:34 -0000 On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Jay West wrote: > Well, found the XP drivers for the card (it's a Madge Smart MK4 PCI > adapter, > not olicom as I thought). > > Ndisgen seemed to work fine > > After kldloading the resulting module, ifconfig shows: > ndis0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > ether 00:00:00:ee:ed:c6 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX) > status: no carrier > > It is connected though (via DB9, not RJ45). I don't see how you can specify > 4mbps or 16mbps, attempting the oltr media types for example "UTP/4mbps" > says no such media type. > > I am wondering if the ndisgen utility is only designed for ndis Ethernet > cards instead of my case - ndis token ring. :( > It is still in the 7.x branch: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/stable/7/sys/contrib/dev/oltr/ Otherwise, it's time to abandon steamships for airplanes. Sounds like you have a primed business opportunity just waiting to be exploited. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 7 06:13:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FDA106566B for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 06:13:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.t@mail.com) Received: from mailout-us.mail.com (mailout-us.mail.com [74.208.122.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1B578FC14 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 06:13:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Apr 2012 06:13:52 -0000 Received: from host117.apollo.lv (EHLO blazon-pc.runningwild.local) [81.198.136.117] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us011) with SMTP; 07 Apr 2012 02:13:52 -0400 X-Authenticated: #76218138 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/1e00Pf5X1vyMfCWXkni5Kp8TiktcIDEMzGZwfVx PaphWsmTNDl9GH Message-ID: <4F7FDB1D.6020608@mail.com> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 09:13:49 +0300 From: Jeff Tipton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111229 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: xfburn and k3b on FreeBSD9.0-RELEASE can't find LITE-ON DVDRW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 06:13:54 -0000 Hi, I can't get any GUI tool working with my LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-160P6S (IDE) on 9.0-RELEASE (packages and ports tree are in sync from the release date). atapicam is compiled in GENERIC kernel now, so no need for this module. I recompiled cdrtools, dvd+rw-tools, and hal. cdrecord works after that (tried to blank some CDs and burn some ISOs). But xfburn crashes: (process:6957): GLib-WARNING **: goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, optional-arg or filename flags (8) on option of type 0 (process:6957): GLib-WARNING **: goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, optional-arg or filename flags (8) on option of type 0 ** Message: Using Thunar-VFS 1.2.0 ** Message: Using HAL xfburn: error sending CAMIOCOMMAND ioctl: Inappropriate ioctl for device xfburn: error sending CAMIOCOMMAND ioctl: Inappropriate ioctl for device xfburn: error sending CAMIOCOMMAND ioctl: Inappropriate ioctl for device ** ERROR **: Device address does not lead to a burner '/dev/cd0' (ret=0). aborting... [1] Abort xfburn (core dumped) Exactly the same result when run as root. k3b starts but shows a warning message in a popup window: No optical drive found. K3b did not find any optical device in your system. Solution: Make sure HAL daemon is running, it is used by K3b for finding devices. Of course, HAL is running. brasero starts ok and doesn't complain at all; it just doesn't show any devices. camcontrol devlist output: at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,ada0) at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1,ada1) at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (cd0,pass2) This is what I tried to set to make it work: /etc/devfs.conf: # CDROM own cd0 root:operator perm cd0 0660 own pass2 root:operator perm pass2 0666 own xpt0 root:operator perm xpt0 0666 /etc/devfs.rules: [system=5] #CD/DVD add path 'cd*' mode 0666 group operator add path 'pass*' mode 0666 group operator add path 'xpt*' mode 0666 group operator /etc/rc.conf: devfs_system_ruleset="system" No CD-related entries in /etc/fstab. Added myself to the operator group. SUID flags: ll /usr/local/bin | grep cdr -rws--x--- 1 root operator 578088 Dec 3 02:30 cdrdao -rws--x--- 1 root operator 402768 Feb 22 15:33 cdrecord -rws--x--- 1 root operator 136428 Dec 3 10:08 cdrskin Permissions on /dev files: #ll /dev |grep cd crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 91 Apr 6 15:18 cd0 # ll /dev | grep pass crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 83 Apr 6 15:18 pass0 crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 84 Apr 6 15:18 pass1 crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 85 Apr 6 15:18 pass2 # ll /dev | grep xpt crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 68 Apr 6 15:18 xpt0 # sysctl hw.ata.atapi_dma hw.ata.atapi_dma: 1 What could be wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 7 07:52:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA8F106566B for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 07:52:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talayeh.asadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BA18FC0C for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 07:52:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbwc18 with SMTP id wc18so5193051obb.13 for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:52:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=QtPgqF+QMAgASUZOu4MRAVez9xFWRRbWmc5R+htpVoI=; b=lY609nUOb50qQi734LshnbzcSfU0TgSD9LRD17+V2O/UbSJmlYZOyhxQ/HTjpZlqzA BHJLluusuvfj+xKCUvGjwD3/VoJE5cpDWEY7Wdzgl3ZV/z7yFUmJ2DqJepP70pu9cUia 808mXtLYKoqZGq5GLc4vVbPMDocAeQS4YsKlEiB1l/sTwb8I80TDnp6GiIZ2KGSNrTGR INapoLtmslrMbp7UFazGIfdMGrsvCQoysr5VxZbtIupNZSeLFC1wR18aULqgmBNJgU9q icwfWNnUx60PhBQqiOfo43l8wgqlrDR4laVwlehCnHsrekYTBUctgQT61jiWQQf29IMC 5KtQ== Received: by 10.182.119.101 with SMTP id kt5mr820264obb.70.1333785137641; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:52:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: talayeh.asadi@gmail.com Received: by 10.182.68.202 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 00:51:57 -0700 (PDT) From: takCoder Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 12:21:57 +0430 X-Google-Sender-Auth: zVgQWZuEmS_BFR8L2jO7XNE_5i4 Message-ID: To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: define a default username for logging in X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tak.official@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 07:52:18 -0000 Hi All :) i'm trying to find a way to enable a required feature : to set *default username *in my Freebsd 8.2 server.. i mean, i wanna be able to login with just entering My Master Password(no usernames needed.. also prefer it to be per tty), which is *not related to my root account, *but is the password of a user which i have defined as my default user.. is it possible for, e.g. pam_login module (i couldn't find any manuals on such feature yet..), to have such a config or is there any other ways to set such default username for login? i've googled most of the keywords i thought might be related, but haven't find any related answers except for maybe working on nsswitch.conf or master.passwd or login.conf options (which are, as you see, really *different ways, *and also none seems to be behaved per tty..) and now, i'm not quite sure whether i'm taking the correct steps or not.. and i've got a bit confused.. would anyone please helps me find the way? thanks a lot for your helps :) Best Regards, takCoder From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 7 08:09:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FB01065674 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 08:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B653C8FC15 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 08:09:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.40]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F6E3D385; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 10:09:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q3789l4K006935; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 10:09:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 10:09:47 +0200 From: Polytropon To: tak.official@gmail.com Message-Id: <20120407100947.cd05d526.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: define a default username for logging in X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 08:09:56 -0000 On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 12:21:57 +0430, takCoder wrote: > Hi All :) > > i'm trying to find a way to enable a required feature : to set *default > username *in my Freebsd 8.2 server.. > > i mean, i wanna be able to login with just entering My Master Password(no > usernames needed.. also prefer it to be per tty), which is *not related to > my root account, *but is the password of a user which i have defined as my > default user.. > > is it possible for, e.g. pam_login module (i couldn't find any manuals on > such feature yet..), to have such a config or is there any other ways to > set such default username for login? It is, but I assume my answer will just be a half of the whole story. The problem will be: no password. But maybe you can find some inspiration and then extend the procedure to fit your needs. 1. Modify /etc/gettytab as follows: default:\ ... localautologin:\ :al=:tc=Pc: a|std.110|110-baud:\ ... where is the name of the user you want to login as (given by the al= parameter, and "inheriting" the tc= settings). Make sure the user does exist in the system. 2. Modify /etc/ttys as follows: ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty localautologin" cons25 on secure and maybe change cons25 to cons25l1 (or any other value that might be required). As I said initially, this does _not_ prompt for a password! Maybe /etc/passwd's shell field allows you to add the password protection. If you're logging in remotely, ssh @yourserver.qw.er.tzu will only prompt for a password. This idea offers an opportunity to something overcomplicated: Create a user for localautologin that is _not_ your default user name. Make this user login automatically, and into his ~/.login, place the command "ssh @localhost" so right after performing the localautologin, ssh will attempt to connect to localhost _as _ and _prompt for_ the password. Terrible, I know. :-) To milden the pain of this approach, you could allow telnet for localhost, i. e. "from 127.0.0.1 to 127.0.0.1 _ONLY_ and nothing more", and use telnet instead of ssh in the ~/.login command. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 7 12:26:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7641065672; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 12:26:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81CB08FC08; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 12:26:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wern13 with SMTP id n13so2432985wer.13 for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 05:26:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=d9wzShqyyTNjBDeBZW1MzHqA2lfEDXwefZzN7ASg2J4=; b=qg8SADASIp91Zk80tATlVcgO5LektFxo/AOTUnIT+vPGpH0kXy7NKXy8Wej/08mEAt nI9wFsJm471jYIcdm0hznG7dwx1B/sSpD8GoSraoVW8Z5Sq35J9p3A9Xqj48f/aYcdlv EfhHIpx/EN3g99OCQRtwMUt85zk2cFFUgKk+ZmFcJ6zWU6RjAesOcPioB2HfFGsHG3yx dC8nhae8iVi4G7ttdsJsGNZChiyy8aAklrnSbie7LpKr19yW15aKovh/eDr0HSON3xwl bA6Rlxih6lG1hFA7auoWlGeLzcvcmFYqH4HB8nyvJY8psMLCgeLADFZgzaYl7qbY04fy zl6Q== Received: by 10.216.228.165 with SMTP id f37mr714739weq.83.1333801591451; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 05:26:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.dg (41-135-11-171.dsl.mweb.co.za. [41.135.11.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fz9sm14290790wib.3.2012.04.07.05.26.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 07 Apr 2012 05:26:30 -0700 (PDT) From: David Naylor To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 14:26:01 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-STABLE; KDE/4.7.1; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4196776.uLRXnspPf2"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201204071426.04872.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.5.1 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 12:26:33 -0000 --nextPart4196776.uLRXnspPf2 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.5.1 have been uploaded to mediafire [2]. There are many reports that wine does not work with a clang compiled world (help in fixing this problem is appreciated as it affects quite a few users= ). The patch [3] for nVidia users is now included in the package and is run on installation (if the relevant files are accessible). Please read the installation messages for further information. Regards, David [1] MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.5.1,1.tbz) =3D=20 f8e1c24fc18dea444aed84b4bde8db25 MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.5.1,1.txz) =3D=20 05a2c1baed81108041fa650a6ee0d78a [2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64 [3] The patch is located at /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh --nextPart4196776.uLRXnspPf2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAk+AMlwACgkQUaaFgP9pFrLcgwCdGuCUW2SZnNklPHY50RitMNUh AUwAnRlIs3F2jCRFmETC/JrcOU/Hx8O+ =jGpB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4196776.uLRXnspPf2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 7 15:57:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406DC1065670 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 15:57:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.t@mail.com) Received: from mailout-us.mail.com (mailout-us.mail.com [74.208.122.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 08CCB8FC08 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 15:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Apr 2012 15:57:11 -0000 Received: from host117.apollo.lv (EHLO blazon-pc.runningwild.local) [81.198.136.117] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us009) with SMTP; 07 Apr 2012 11:57:11 -0400 X-Authenticated: #76218138 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18Xig524qIXZrYh3j86jr7PgANmtO+zGiI1KyWbQX IVoFyp3kY42TAt Message-ID: <4F8063D5.6070907@mail.com> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 18:57:09 +0300 From: Jeff Tipton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111229 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F7FDB1D.6020608@mail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F7FDB1D.6020608@mail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: xfburn and k3b on FreeBSD9.0-RELEASE can't find LITE-ON DVDRW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 15:57:13 -0000 On 04/07/2012 09:13, Jeff Tipton wrote: > Hi, > > I can't get any GUI tool working with my LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-160P6S > (IDE) on 9.0-RELEASE (packages and ports tree are in sync from the > release date). > > atapicam is compiled in GENERIC kernel now, so no need for this module. > > I recompiled cdrtools, dvd+rw-tools, and hal. > > cdrecord works after that (tried to blank some CDs and burn some ISOs). > > But xfburn crashes: > (process:6957): GLib-WARNING **: goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, > optional-arg or filename flags (8) on option of type 0 > > (process:6957): GLib-WARNING **: goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, > optional-arg or filename flags (8) on option of type 0 > ** Message: Using Thunar-VFS 1.2.0 > ** Message: Using HAL > xfburn: error sending CAMIOCOMMAND ioctl: Inappropriate ioctl for device > xfburn: error sending CAMIOCOMMAND ioctl: Inappropriate ioctl for device > xfburn: error sending CAMIOCOMMAND ioctl: Inappropriate ioctl for device > > ** ERROR **: Device address does not lead to a burner '/dev/cd0' (ret=0). > aborting... > > [1] Abort xfburn (core dumped) > > Exactly the same result when run as root. > > k3b starts but shows a warning message in a popup window: > No optical drive found. > K3b did not find any optical device in your system. > Solution: Make sure HAL daemon is running, it is used by K3b for > finding devices. > > Of course, HAL is running. > > brasero starts ok and doesn't complain at all; it just doesn't show > any devices. > > camcontrol devlist output: > > at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,ada0) > at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1,ada1) > at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (cd0,pass2) > > This is what I tried to set to make it work: > > /etc/devfs.conf: > # CDROM > own cd0 root:operator > perm cd0 0660 > > own pass2 root:operator > perm pass2 0666 > > own xpt0 root:operator > perm xpt0 0666 > > /etc/devfs.rules: > [system=5] > #CD/DVD > add path 'cd*' mode 0666 group operator > add path 'pass*' mode 0666 group operator > add path 'xpt*' mode 0666 group operator > > /etc/rc.conf: > devfs_system_ruleset="system" > > No CD-related entries in /etc/fstab. > Added myself to the operator group. > SUID flags: > ll /usr/local/bin | grep cdr > -rws--x--- 1 root operator 578088 Dec 3 02:30 cdrdao > -rws--x--- 1 root operator 402768 Feb 22 15:33 cdrecord > -rws--x--- 1 root operator 136428 Dec 3 10:08 cdrskin > > Permissions on /dev files: > #ll /dev |grep cd > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 91 Apr 6 15:18 cd0 > # ll /dev | grep pass > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 83 Apr 6 15:18 pass0 > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 84 Apr 6 15:18 pass1 > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 85 Apr 6 15:18 pass2 > # ll /dev | grep xpt > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 68 Apr 6 15:18 xpt0 > > # sysctl hw.ata.atapi_dma > hw.ata.atapi_dma: 1 > > What could be wrong? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Some news. I found out that xfburn depends on libburn, so I recompiled libburn, too. Now xfburn seems to work (could blank a disk, write an ISO image, write files to a disk). As for k3b (which I would prefer), nothing changed. Only I found that when I insert a disk before launching k3b, it finds the drive as read-only. Now the popup window says: No CD/DVD/BD writer found. K3b did not find an optical writing device in your system. Thus, you will not be able to burn CDs or DVDs. However, you can still use other K3b features such as audio track extraction, audio transcoding or ISO9660 image creation. In Settings > Devices dialog, "Writers" are shown as "none", and /dev/cd0 is under "Read-only Drives". There are blank squares against "Vendor" and "Firmware", and "Error" against "Write Capabilities:". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 7 17:53:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2D3106564A for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 17:53:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xavierfreebsdquestions@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908928FC0A for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 17:53:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhgm50 with SMTP id m50so1840680yhg.13 for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 10:53:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0EpjgKB9NwvSy6YTBswxVvdCgqpU6X2bTov+4sVGU7c=; b=DBrY1AslG2w0uYuNdVU4rBR1SxtHHMSQJGfQLpQf3IYUFpsGpKNVSwbajfu3cbCsGQ 9E36L6iAD1fxrTeutmYMmRQ9iu8KraWsJ0qXZIuySfDp/edWGNCvWzhgmnyxtr0XMzW8 y1twbbgb/iDyoqKjGIP73IWUxEYPwKMlAKF5VoxqxFuyeFjFaVkdVhXYAeB0VMFvIU+s RwjWGDJ1fmX4+BDvBFIpKZLdBFstdcumyYskMJeZonuyNJ4AW2w2lzez+aMOa84qT4+H 1yn9rA8rIjxUouAhCZcHIFoPKG/hyDIlymG0am5AVW7Xmdm1xbe1bBsH5bTSLaeAwkB/ GuoA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.185.197 with SMTP id u45mr1512719yhm.113.1333821196281; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 10:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.147.35.3 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 10:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 19:53:16 +0200 Message-ID: From: Xavier To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Can FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE mount Ext3 file system ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 17:53:22 -0000 Hi to all, I have: casa# disktype /dev/da1 --- /dev/da1 Character device, size 3.771 GiB (4048551936 bytes) FreeBSD boot loader (i386 boot2/BTX 1.02 at sector 2) BSD disklabel (at sector 1), 8 partitions Partition c: 2.145 GiB (2302711808 bytes, 4497484 sectors from 0) Type 0 (Unused) DOS/MBR partition map Partition 1: 3.547 GiB (3808272384 bytes, 7438032 sectors from 63) Type 0x83 (Linux) Ext3 file system UUID D1A7E6D6-3A34-4864-B6E8-C4DAA34AD776 (DCE, v4) Last mounted at "/" Volume size 3.547 GiB (3808272384 bytes, 929754 blocks of 4 KiB) Partition 2: 227.5 MiB (238533120 bytes, 465885 sectors from 7438095) Type 0x05 (Extended) Partition 5: 227.5 MiB (238500864 bytes, 465822 sectors from 7438095+63) Type 0x82 (Linux swap / Solaris) Linux swap, version 2, subversion 1, 4 KiB pages, little-endian Swap size 227.4 MiB (238489600 bytes, 58225 pages of 4 KiB) I'm running from FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE I try: casa# mount -t ext2fs /dev/da1a /mnt/JetFlash\ Transcend\ 4GB\ 1100/ mount: /dev/da1a : Invalid argument How can I mount it ? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 7 19:22:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4BD106566C for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 19:22:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.trifonidis@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA358FC0C for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 19:22:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lagv3 with SMTP id v3so3969679lag.13 for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 12:22:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CKCZci6wP2h+lmtxVEEsVmCdb4EkjyXgiqMKN6v7AIg=; b=lsI1xb9QcNonhYTvSxMZRtFKUAspPY8VxpEvNguknujraZWkd3ohduTVc9GGegXFFN qxfd03DsSY9cC77X2NQKIen2mus3Xo6BSYcF/ltyESDRS3O27ixhviGIbSr9z6Jv+q8p tHiuzUigDvzYTTBD1V8jUqDDBaSOJvpSoEEYmxjyeU7pnXnuYPCn/TIhqxpZ8xlGN83W ZT6CZNRAtnVSvFxlWTll8xY3Ikik3myvcWBtmGN1d4Bj3vIsrqOSy4VhAoBpbRce66Kd pf7fr7zZDtP/GA8qMBjtjmtESaf8rLApGbj4x3QkUxX0MBjORpPXnEwzhjred6aukVDm hs+Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.102.228 with SMTP id fr4mr3491667lab.23.1333826573206; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 12:22:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.147.136 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 12:22:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 22:22:53 +0300 Message-ID: From: Eugene Tryfonides To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE: Xorg bug or better Xorg file problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 19:22:55 -0000 Hello first of all. This is my first post here.. a test.. i stream on line as i read todays post. So about xorg file cause i make 6 months with nvidia 9200fx let talk first for the card. second there is no xorg need it so u can back up and delete it, and test you X with xrandr -q man xrandr and more. The last think that comes in my mind cause doug speaks for flashing is the DFP screen maybe need and edid.bin file into you etx/X11 ofcaurce search forums data for xorg confg option. Thank you. and Hello there -- My webpages egelor : egepress : My Server Actapus Piece Love Unity_ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 7 19:23:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A870106574F for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 19:23:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xavierfreebsdquestions@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FEF8FC12 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 19:23:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl9 with SMTP id l9so1854153yen.13 for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 12:23:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=s/uyErNkMLW7/b9MFF7ZjMIND4jheETRblapzGpt4ic=; b=X9dXTTurb80JHrNBcjVYECn7yoK5acH3y8t0qhorsiCH3dgjWiNAe68KolZq0L6Uzk cdQGTJRAq1R3j3utuCQSK+d2HEql41tSeXfSFuDvPfp4z6vj5GnWY9m8F8+pdxCCstal zYvUEB+vNWX1iSLFoV/M8WhAP4Oe2PAI0b2J0bIwzt2ibINfVJaya4XKpaOA8x4eYC4+ /ZmlSw0v2jiWTCwqUuT/Q2ACgrf539vAbsPbkBKW6AgNOy8BGTr9wSswruAT7bzUvBr+ jmBFkbM9ttTKQj1x/982WHS9aZ6SH+n7Yg/t/QFwHBFA9PauaBeX/Psk434MSRXL/md1 YHJA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.185.197 with SMTP id u45mr1666574yhm.113.1333826583485; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 12:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.147.35.3 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 12:23:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 21:23:03 +0200 Message-ID: From: Xavier To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE mount Ext3 file system ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 19:23:09 -0000 On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 10:06:44PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: Hi Odhiambo, > man mount > > mount fstype device mount-point Yes, but look: > > > > I try: > > > > casa# mount -t ext2fs /dev/da1a /mnt/JetFlash\ Transcend\ 4GB\ 1100/ > > mount: /dev/da1a : Invalid argument I don't know why !? Thanks, see you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 7 20:15:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E7D106566B for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 20:15:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f44.google.com (mail-pz0-f44.google.com [209.85.210.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581568FC08 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 20:15:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadz14 with SMTP id z14so13606574dad.17 for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 13:15:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4jGz5t9bcqTTzM6hrWkEFAdJct2wyQp+K1tBy8qnefs=; b=ocYZqlJghfsU61+8VobfyqKQ2Bm0923pFf2ohlRfloOF1QZqefCIwt7Sn5gy0N+OL+ qqKY9Vl1edMblUOyfxrzbQ7ErgWkR1iHLLoFGWPQL9h/eTSEYQwMhdL6Shwy4PpIGJPR pNwwGi8gLCWnCaAQqeU3/YAAZX7y/bSf8d2oe5dMTRlVZeVl6K3QCbDbML0vxqn+r05y 44tWIOdlIukiuPe3gEiIMBRKKIGX7ed4BdvgrVF+JV+7ig9r82qvwFcmelhKht6d/dax B3Y6lsi8Gp/Tn+hd3ynqqdKmn2bhZ2KYV0e/FwSpV/nKc/AGOCrDk3MzU0E4vC6ArdYs 7bmw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.221.197 with SMTP id qg5mr6487776pbc.25.1333829741146; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 13:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.255.11 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 13:15:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 16:15:41 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Xavier Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE mount Ext3 file system ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 20:15:47 -0000 On 7 April 2012 13:53, Xavier wrote: > Hi to all, > > I have: > > casa# disktype /dev/da1 > > --- /dev/da1 > Character device, size 3.771 GiB (4048551936 bytes) > FreeBSD boot loader (i386 boot2/BTX 1.02 at sector 2) > BSD disklabel (at sector 1), 8 partitions > Partition c: 2.145 GiB (2302711808 bytes, 4497484 sectors from 0) > =A0Type 0 (Unused) > DOS/MBR partition map > Partition 1: 3.547 GiB (3808272384 bytes, 7438032 sectors from 63) > =A0Type 0x83 (Linux) > =A0Ext3 file system > =A0 =A0UUID D1A7E6D6-3A34-4864-B6E8-C4DAA34AD776 (DCE, v4) > =A0 =A0Last mounted at "/" > =A0 =A0Volume size 3.547 GiB (3808272384 bytes, 929754 blocks of 4 KiB) > Partition 2: 227.5 MiB (238533120 bytes, 465885 sectors from 7438095) > =A0Type 0x05 (Extended) > =A0Partition 5: 227.5 MiB (238500864 bytes, 465822 sectors from 7438095+6= 3) > =A0 =A0Type 0x82 (Linux swap / Solaris) > =A0 =A0Linux swap, version 2, subversion 1, 4 KiB pages, little-endian > =A0 =A0 =A0Swap size 227.4 MiB (238489600 bytes, 58225 pages of 4 KiB) > > I'm running from FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE > > I try: > > casa# mount -t ext2fs /dev/da1a /mnt/JetFlash\ Transcend\ 4GB\ 1100/ > mount: /dev/da1a : Invalid argument > > How can I mount it ? mount -t ext2fs /dev/da1s1 /mnt/JetFlash\ Transcend\ 4GB\ 1100/ perhaps? Note-----------^^ If that still doesn't work, try adding -r in there (as ext2fs might not support r/w in your configuration). --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 7 20:25:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93BC71065673 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 20:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xavierfreebsdquestions@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADEA8FC12 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 20:25:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghrr20 with SMTP id r20so1866995ghr.13 for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 13:25:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=wPOrAinkcatHbpy7ZWBP+/5ohRsgLqvYG1gbB4KgPu8=; b=0hzINYTsWb3Fs/mlJLgxSbVmunB6KphVZzzYIkiAB3Pb5ijM1ZLipvHzXdTy6/t8k8 B3oZhNrYR/YPNMT2A0cIP0mmzQcDiy/ftB+bw7X/FDpWohXMc5u2DN23EHFWe7gA6a0h 2hvyuRENGlu7wtKxvJrh3Nbsr3rozUbu2d1O0roDOGjUboi2UHzNacQs4SovQjACdJeh FGJCLp75jwcQ1gvodBml10UBZTTb6P5E4jwA+RktgeqOA1W0r0+9ToeMqBdK0aEL3peb +pLlqcUGVtliNITjUnAdPIbWlnLjOLrmv70ReNVi4URN07mTRXY6K2AaiB89zTwBHQiT NMJA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.79.8 with SMTP id h8mr1799485yhe.79.1333830328844; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 13:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.147.35.3 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 13:25:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 22:25:28 +0200 Message-ID: From: Xavier To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE mount Ext3 file system ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 20:25:35 -0000 On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 04:15:41PM -0400, illoai@gmail.com wrote: Hi, > On 7 April 2012 13:53, Xavier wrote: > > Hi to all, > > > > I have: > > > > casa# disktype /dev/da1 > > > > --- /dev/da1 > > Character device, size 3.771 GiB (4048551936 bytes) > > FreeBSD boot loader (i386 boot2/BTX 1.02 at sector 2) > > BSD disklabel (at sector 1), 8 partitions > > Partition c: 2.145 GiB (2302711808 bytes, 4497484 sectors from 0) > > Type 0 (Unused) > > DOS/MBR partition map > > Partition 1: 3.547 GiB (3808272384 bytes, 7438032 sectors from 63) > > Type 0x83 (Linux) > > Ext3 file system > > UUID D1A7E6D6-3A34-4864-B6E8-C4DAA34AD776 (DCE, v4) > > Last mounted at "/" > > Volume size 3.547 GiB (3808272384 bytes, 929754 blocks of 4 KiB) > > Partition 2: 227.5 MiB (238533120 bytes, 465885 sectors from 7438095) > > Type 0x05 (Extended) > > Partition 5: 227.5 MiB (238500864 bytes, 465822 sectors from 7438095+63) > > Type 0x82 (Linux swap / Solaris) > > Linux swap, version 2, subversion 1, 4 KiB pages, little-endian > > Swap size 227.4 MiB (238489600 bytes, 58225 pages of 4 KiB) > > > > I'm running from FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE > > > > I try: > > > > casa# mount -t ext2fs /dev/da1a /mnt/JetFlash\ Transcend\ 4GB\ 1100/ > > mount: /dev/da1a : Invalid argument > > > > How can I mount it ? > > mount -t ext2fs /dev/da1s1 /mnt/JetFlash\ Transcend\ 4GB\ 1100/ > perhaps? Note-----------^^ > > If that still doesn't work, try adding -r in there (as ext2fs might not > support r/w in your configuration). > casa# mount -t ext2fs /dev/da1s1 /mnt/JetFlash\ Transcend\ 4GB\ 1100/ mount: /dev/da1s1 : No such file or directory casa# casa# mount -r -t ext2fs /dev/da1s1 /mnt/JetFlash\ Transcend\ 4GB\ 1100/ mount: /dev/da1s1 : No such file or directory casa# You have more ideas ? Thanks, see you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 7 20:44:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1233) id 8FDF81065675; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 20:44:21 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 20:44:21 +0000 From: Alexander Best To: Matthias Apitz Message-ID: <20120407204421.GA43348@freebsd.org> References: <20120405141506.GA49845@tiny> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120405141506.GA49845@tiny> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: order of source_dirs in cp(1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 20:44:21 -0000 On Thu Apr 5 12, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Hello, > > I was doing > > $ cp -Rv 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 2 /mnt/osm > > and was surprised seeing that source_dir 17 was done before 16; the man > page does not specify the order, but I was thinking it just goes through > the list in the given order... > > Why this is done this way? i can't remember the reason, but the question has been raised quite often. try searching the archives. i think it had something to do with performance or getting better disk locality, but i'm not sure. however people were argueing whether copying the files in reverse order is really a benefit or not. cheers. alex > > Thanks > > matthias > -- > Matthias Apitz > e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ > UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) > UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 7 23:25:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00508106566C for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 23:25:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F328FC12 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 23:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wern13 with SMTP id n13so2654188wer.13 for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 16:25:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=g5P3ZDdInpB4I/FICNbpnb0evqw4vuUGNB00oqK+IUs=; b=DxQVg4YRtKO0G7zjhzdN9kC5qBo1lOS3sfh35dvRw5ysrdy96J799ni7NbOkFhcNa2 3w25cwa+CfmxCKncScBFehwFgS0Q4C9wVqnKXWEvD6m/elf7GyNxaRD+n3X1hI91DR8s jwuWz6I4xzRYTSZDi8jInQt6NXULz5+NU0T4e8ax1aWnEi6i8gBaAHYsjqCWUC965KiV UeHAK3J0LR6RobzUNAUjUAeopRehlp28Qaf1iEcjbUFPKqJPuYN77FbBvU1QQ07yekmV j/zR7PUX5MslrwrNH9eM1eqqHk6TUa2o0CsSRhzA3oaUbEx6iMbK29NvpJmtjnkeDS3d Rhlg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.133.9 with SMTP id p9mr1505132wei.9.1333841129409; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 16:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.94.73 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 16:25:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 18:25:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Xavier Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE mount Ext3 file system ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 23:25:31 -0000 > > > > I don't know why !? > > > > > > Is ext2fs.ko loaded? Does /var/log/messages reveal anything? > > > Yes : > > casa# kldstat | grep ext > 9 1 0xc8806000 10000 ext2fs.ko > casa# > > > I try: > > casa# mount -t ext2fs /dev/da1a /mnt/JetFlash\ Transcend\ 4GB\ 1100/ > mount: /dev/da1a : Invalid argument > > /var/log/messages : > > Apr 7 22:16:35 casa kernel: ext2fs: da1a: wrong magic number 0 (expected > 0xef53 > > What is the output from "gpart list"? -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 7 23:44:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC86106566B for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 23:44:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xavierfreebsdquestions@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1908FC08 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 23:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds12 with SMTP id ds12so3149249wgb.31 for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 16:44:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=PNgae3w/92Jr59Q2sCOSk6YN8Xe/vwC0vaIr/kJsuwM=; b=CxlfTczEPaTYzlDBD4WgfriuyMvHI97Eps7iAvg+YYGq029gPWx3MMS/tBEYTcYyiN SQUxIU7pgfO4mJ7YO48wjhh415TL9RPJZ97BfmL3ydRjUK8Pw1Mnv+RL5o0avRmnmFvo NW/D9UZu0s1vZRsA/J903TCpgCc3LrKhSaiQz8hd113xNLij4Ks6DFR92aKa7hbltWIz LlV38NyB/JgvC4bb/ueTckF4bOwHI7zC+c6o3RGXfUPOnkWNPRU6W3P1+WecSnnfl70h tHTYV5QTJloxpFYfSRbCCGTThNEUqtsOHP9nrFILo1kVn59YnjwtZuJo76bEmqH1Mbp/ 6PUg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.82.132 with SMTP id i4mr5935363wiy.12.1333842293544; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 16:44:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.37.221 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 16:44:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 01:44:53 +0200 Message-ID: From: Xavier To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE mount Ext3 file system ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 23:44:55 -0000 On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 06:25:29PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: Hi Adam, > > > > > > I don't know why !? > > > > > > > > Is ext2fs.ko loaded? Does /var/log/messages reveal anything? > > > > > > Yes : > > > > casa# kldstat | grep ext > > 9 1 0xc8806000 10000 ext2fs.ko > > casa# > > > > > > I try: > > > > casa# mount -t ext2fs /dev/da1a /mnt/JetFlash\ Transcend\ 4GB\ 1100/ > > mount: /dev/da1a : Invalid argument > > > > /var/log/messages : > > > > Apr 7 22:16:35 casa kernel: ext2fs: da1a: wrong magic number 0 (expected > > 0xef53 > > > > > What is the output from "gpart list"? ###cut here### Geom name: da1 modified: false state: OK fwheads: 255 fwsectors: 63 last: 7907327 first: 0 entries: 8 scheme: BSD Providers: 1. Name: da1a Mediasize: 2302703616 (2.1G) Sectorsize: 512 Stripesize: 0 Stripeoffset: 8192 Mode: r0w0e0 rawtype: 0 length: 2302703616 offset: 8192 type: !0 index: 1 end: 4497483 start: 16 Consumers: 1. Name: da1 Mediasize: 4048551936 (3.8G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 ###cut here### Have ideas ? Thanks, see you.