From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 00:43:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0D5106564A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 00:43:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qa0-f49.google.com (mail-qa0-f49.google.com [209.85.216.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649798FC12 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 00:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qabj40 with SMTP id j40so1722216qab.15 for ; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 17:43:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wgGJoLk62PIwspfqysJt3I5NU8qjLwxbbtGZnWYwZx8=; b=miW5945rE9H6WKsgQJX8uVQNYhQDHTS1U/gxUq4IGEc3dzlBKG3drV9DK2yI/B4X0k WL2feMdWNDDXYmG+W9pVPQB4VRtv0S6X/TzVJo96Ur2oNnMEJxgGJ2yKs54mBrsZ+Evy nw1xvYes3XdBlV2IdSL+8+vydgIN/wAHrZnJ6uMLnmYS8YO5G2kTPrBga83/y95S7L60 us6gvXhNs3jB68ygHIlPqDrYLnMsM1sbJn8JOkBFwz4ZA/ab0JCJc70Cy31QbRE2SUsm 5tdlDuegMa3ZZRbyajKCK3ZrblpZ9DsktOhMQbueZ+xGRD8hZFwVgIGnx6bHusZHPxvt m+2Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.205.194 with SMTP id fr2mr5423682qab.66.1339289005865; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 17:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.225.71 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:43:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120609233827.497b2ca4@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <4FD34E2A.7060700@dreamchaser.org> <20120609233827.497b2ca4@gumby.homeunix.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 20:43:25 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: RW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ran out of inodes on /var, recommended value? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 00:43:32 -0000 On 9 June 2012 18:38, RW wrote: > On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 07:22:50 -0600 > Gary Aitken wrote: > >> I reconfigured my ssd filesystem with the /var partition of size >> 512M. =A0Unfortunately, something in portsnap or the ports tree in >> general uses a boatload of small files, and i ran out of inodes. =A0Can >> anyone recommend an appropriate size for the newfs -i value? =A01024? >> less? > > portsnap needs roughly one file per port plus one for each > out of date port during a fetch. There are 23658 ports. > > In FreeBSD 9 the fragment size increased, halving the default number of > inodes. With only 32k inodes it's possible to run out with portsnap > alone. You can probably get away with the old default of 64k (-i > 8192), or perhaps 128k (-i 4096). Check how many files you have outside > of portsnap and do the arithmetic. > Or, move the portsnap tree to somewhere other than /var (see /etc/portsnap.conf for that & such). I think that a file-backed md* mounted only when portsnap was in use would save on inodes, yeah? *I guess mdmfs(8) is the jawns y'all use nowadays, yo? --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 01:27:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6471106566C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 01:27:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC408FC12 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 01:27:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so1758364eek.13 for ; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 18:27:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to :x-gm-message-state; bh=Z4QBOYywB6ckLIICfw9c/sJuykgADcq9GCVGDRoWafk=; b=bTY4U+guDdFDzUjAv32O4TLLBqHXvvsyldsQcXTmUh6CVBSbqj/zTvYTTZ2VNm6Si5 hHtSTG/MtYf1L73P3DVViT4gz5L3fz7RxJadlSKoGyowQCka+G9kKJKtTNbe4xdqYums dROboPa6BMC/5FdR+T7VeLyuIJ3aUEBEStLHHMJUd/k1SYy14OBjSbQ5lVre3vZnp9bt mcAGdm4dvLt6CKRqOE5HScFFmZvuh/I1Az/ImaqrqkPPfNNIDCRmmggf7MULZt18wj7T athtVFavPUSH3VHqgeNiwZCvMsCwGjO+EYWYEZUqf/vIrxTdbtKH8Ye9JTPiHmL9w4NQ pVHA== Received: by 10.14.127.195 with SMTP id d43mr5163062eei.174.1339291649862; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 18:27:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2a01:e35:8aac:83c0:d4b0:1bd7:17a6:35e5? ([2a01:e35:8aac:83c0:d4b0:1bd7:17a6:35e5]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p41sm37170316eef.5.2012.06.09.18.27.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 09 Jun 2012 18:27:29 -0700 (PDT) References: <0B9FF530-AAE8-4411-8B06-2AD5662CB803@my.gd> <20120609164855.GB31721@hemlock.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20120609164855.GB31721@hemlock.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <1D0D020B-1F05-4546-A15C-8A721C7BC4AC@my.gd> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 03:27:25 +0200 To: Chad Perrin X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmaR8FBdtNVXmQWyHK4kBR51uvDna5nzZTb2qsDHyOBphT3uP0/5/fFOf/pKbhg9520+fMl Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 01:27:31 -0000 On 9 Jun 2012, at 18:48, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 11:42:37PM +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >>=20 >> On 6 Jun 2012, at 21:52, Dave U. Random wrote: >>=20 >>> Polytropon wrote: >>>=20 >>>> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:47:11 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: >>>>> Having to pay Verisign instead of Microsoft makes no difference: the >>>>> point is why should I have to pay anything to a third party in order t= o >>>>> run whatever OS I want on a piece of hardware I own? >>>=20 >>> It's time to dump the Intel/Microshaft mafia forever. FreeBSD, OpenBSD, >>> NetBSD, and even Linux have ports to many platforms. Why stay on Intel? I= t's >>> an overgrown ugly mess. >>>=20 >>> We need to stop buying Intel mafiaware with preinstalled Microshaft mafi= ware >>> and run a free (or in the case of Linux "apparently free") OS on free >>> hardware. >>>=20 >>> There are increasing numbers of SBCs and plenty of used servers on >>> Ebay. They're all built better than commodity Intel mafiaware. Good >>> riddance! >>>=20 >>=20 >> You have no idea what you're talking about. >>=20 >> This kind of religious propaganda post is neither constructive nor >> helpful. >=20 > It should be noted that your tone is neither constructive nor helpful, to > say nothing of your contentless response. Do you have anything useful to > say in response to what Dave U. Random contributed -- perhaps a > thoughtful refutation of some specific point(s)? I hope you have more of > value to contribute than your obvious disdain for people who disagree > with you about something (without even specifying on what points you > disagree). >=20 > --=20 > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] >=20 If you had bothered to read all the other mails I've posted on this very spe= cific thread, you wouldn't need to ask the question. If you're going to participate in the Linux zealots' propaganda that makes O= SS defenders sound so ridiculous and delusional, so be it. Fact is, if Microsoft didn't deliver acceptable products, people wouldn't us= e them. Calling them a mafia is neither constructive (I invite you to look up the wo= rd mafia in a thesaurus), nor backed up by actual facts. OP is just going on a rampage about MS and intel. You want to follow his advice and advocate the exclusive use of alpha machin= es ? I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here. No, I'm not gonna use alphas. And no, I'm not going to let a random person (hey, choice words !) call inte= l or MS a mafia just because he's on a zealot crusade. You might want to take a minute to consider the contributions of both to com= puting. Without MS (and IBM amongst others) it's possible that computing would never= have reached such an audience as it has. So I'm going with the (possibly false) assumption that without MS and other m= ajor actors, not many people would use computers nowadays. All this magnificent OSS wouldn't be of much use then. After all, who would need FreeBSD servers to host web sites that had neither= visitors nor purpose ? One might see MS as the ultimate evil, yet they're strongly implemented in c= orporate IT. One might wonder why, before engaging in a crusade, and brandishing empty wo= rds as their weapons. I invite you to re-read OP's post and highlight what in "mafiaware", "wintel= " and "microshaft" you find constructive. I also invite you to read all his points about why exactly intel is an "over= grown ugly mess". I regret to report I have found none, might you point them out for me ? Now, I shall leave you to read my other posts on this "secure boot" topic, t= hat you might quit claiming I have nothing to contribute.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 02:30:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC74F1065672 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 02:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BB08FC0C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 02:30:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC025083A; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 19:30:53 -0700 (PDT) To: Arthur Chance In-Reply-To: <4FD38B9A.4010400@qeng-ho.org> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 19:30:53 -0700 Message-ID: <12119.1339295453@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 02:30:54 -0000 In message <4FD38B9A.4010400@qeng-ho.org>, Arthur Chance wrote: >There's a BFI (brute force and ignorance) way of doing it in the base >system - dd. Provided your system disk is quiescent (ideally when >running from a live CD or all partitions mounted read-only, otherwise >pray to the deity of your choice) and the backup disk is a) at least as >large as the system disk, and b) has the same sector size, then a simple >dd from the system disk to the backup should work. Thank you Arthur, and yes, trying to back up a partition that's currently mounted r/w using dd will almost certainly not produce the desired results. And of course, as you correctly note also, the target partition had best be at least as big as the source (and perhaps even identical in size). I don't care to take own my system to make backups... and don't believe that I should have to do so, and thus, this is one of the reasons why I would prefer to use something like cpio. Also, I don't like backups taking longer than absolutely necessary, and this is why I am specifically _not_ attracted to either the dd solution or to dump/restore, because as I understand it, with either of these methods you end up copying perhaps a metric buttload worth of unallocated free disk space. (I would prefer not to do that. It just seems wasteful... of time, if nothing else.) Also, in one case, one of my partitions has one directory that contains a really massive amount of stuff, and I specifically _don't_ need any of that particular stuff (in that one directory) backed up. So again, I'm looking at tar or cpio or perhaps pax. (Of course cpio is more full-featured than tar, and I don't really know anything about pax, so that leaves me with cpio.) >[Greybeard war story:] Going back about 25-30 years, a friend of mine >was responsible for running the Unix systems in an EE department of a UK >university. He used to back up the disks (probably around 10 MB in those >days) to 1/2" tape every night. Eventually he got sick of undergraduates >asking him to restore files they'd accidentally deleted, and hit upon >the idea of dd'ing the disk to tape, and then if a student wanted a >restore, he'd mount the tape as a r/o file system (these were the days >of tape block devices and trusting all users) and tell them to use >restore to get the files themselves. It took forever, but it was the >student's time that was wasted, not his. Most of them learned not to >delete wanted files after one or two times of doing this. My own greybeard story: Back in the late 70s I was in college and had just switched major to CS. My college had a mainframe, but also a PDP-11 to which were connected a number of ASR-33s (Who could ever forget THOSE!) Students who asked could get an account on the PDP-11/RSTS-E system. I did, and started experimenting. I remember one day I really pissed off the specific Computer Center staff member who was assigned to the care & feeding of the RSTS-E system when her backup tape started whizzing back and forth for no apparent reason. At least it seemed that way to her, since she had only just mounted the tape and _she_ had not issued any console commands yet which would have caused the tape drive to do anything. :-) Needless to say RSTS-E was, apparently, not quite as sophisticated at that time as, say, UNIX, in terms of protecting physical I/O devices from general Joe-Schmo users. I never became friends with that specific Computer Center staff member, but I did end up as the only CS undergraduate who got a job in the campus Computer Center. Sorry. You talking about tapes just reminded of that incident, way back when. (Sigh. The good old daze.... when men were men, and the bits ran scared!) Moral of the story is that sometimes it actually does pay to be a smartass. Regards, rfg P.S. It really is a Damn Shame[tm] that nobody ever hacked FreeBSD cpio to make it be able to copy (a) the extra file flag/mode bits and/or (b) file ACLs and/or (c) file attributes. I guess I have found a new project for myself... when/if I ever find some free time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 02:48:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6908D106566B for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 02:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256508FC12 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 02:48:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5A2mEbK072562; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 20:48:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5A2mE58072559; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 20:48:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 20:48:14 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" In-Reply-To: <12119.1339295453@tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: References: <12119.1339295453@tristatelogic.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 09 Jun 2012 20:48:14 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Arthur Chance , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 02:48:15 -0000 On Sat, 9 Jun 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > Also, I don't like backups taking longer than absolutely necessary, and > this is why I am specifically _not_ attracted to either the dd solution > or to dump/restore, because as I understand it, with either of these methods > you end up copying perhaps a metric buttload worth of unallocated free > disk space. No, that is one of the biggest advantages of dump over dd. dump knows UFS, and only copies occupied sectors and needed information. That's why it can be restored file-by-file or to a partition of a different size. > Also, in one case, one of my partitions has one directory that contains > a really massive amount of stuff, and I specifically _don't_ need any of > that particular stuff (in that one directory) backed up. So again, I'm > looking at tar or cpio or perhaps pax. (Of course cpio is more full-featured > than tar, and I don't really know anything about pax, so that leaves me > with cpio.) Directories and files can be skipped with the nodump flag. > P.S. It really is a Damn Shame[tm] that nobody ever hacked FreeBSD cpio > to make it be able to copy (a) the extra file flag/mode bits and/or (b) > file ACLs and/or (c) file attributes. A quick search shows dump should support ACLs. The other stuff is also there. Try it. http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 04:52:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B69106564A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 04:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g.todd@internet.co.nz) Received: from sif.iconz.co.nz (etrn.iconz.co.nz [210.48.22.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2ED8FC08 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 04:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sif.iconz.co.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774CC2A077 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:41:10 +1200 (NZST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at sif.iconz.co.nz Received: from sif.iconz.co.nz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sif.iconz.co.nz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oPFUjYcVbikT for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:41:10 +1200 (NZST) Received: from mail.internet.co.nz (mail.internet.co.nz [210.48.22.150]) by sif.iconz.co.nz (Postfix) with SMTP id 03F0C2A071 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:41:09 +1200 (NZST) Received: (qmail 19663 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2012 16:41:09 +1200 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (210.185.20.203) by mail.internet.co.nz with SMTP; 10 Jun 2012 16:41:09 +1200 From: The Todds To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:41:34 +1200 Message-ID: <1339303294.3208.6.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Chromium Crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 04:52:43 -0000 I have just have built and installed Chromium 19.0.1084.52 from the ports on my amd64 machine - 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Sat Nov 5 08:40:03 NZDT 2011 Portversion chromium-19.0.1084.52_2 = up-to-date with port On web sites which contains graphics Chromium crashes with the following error: [3152:171983296:14310963010:ERROR:CONSOLE(1)] "Uncaught ReferenceError: ntp is not defined", source: (1) Any ideas how to resolve this issue. Glenn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 05:04:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8CA01065673 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 05:04:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subhro@80386.org) Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B6278FC08 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 05:04:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7760 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jun 2012 05:04:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box761.bluehost.com) (66.147.244.61) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2012 05:04:30 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=80386.org; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject; bh=8QfPaVeS4i924Ul6p4tZs2g2ttxnsZiR1N24YRw9a+A=; b=CH2TZgbfeLNZsliBEzmP/nFbrNxV+tM0Ijx3ocNimE/kt18QRkTXiw0G1TLeHgq7816hdapuVhfjJUPujww4dLNa/scGjjo1NRongJEimH8frOhIgi4wCgul729+9xVQ; Received: from [117.194.32.145] (port=49878 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by box761.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SdaKD-0004XX-KT; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 23:04:30 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Subhro Sankha Kar In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 10:34:25 +0530 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <94FE1CB5-F92E-4083-8DC4-8A22D353EAC2@80386.org> References: To: C. P. Ghost X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Identified-User: {1190:box761.bluehost.com:pixelpa2:80386.org} {sentby:smtp auth 117.194.32.145 authed with subhro@80386.org} Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: link_elf_obj: symbol ata_controlcmd undefined X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 05:04:30 -0000 Hello, Looks like you have missed out something related to ATA in the kernel = configuration file. Can you post your complete kernel config? Thanks Subhro -- Subhro Sankha Kar System Administrator Working and playing with FreeBSD since 2002 On 20-May-2012, at 5:53 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote: > Hello, >=20 > what does this boot message means, and where > does it come from? >=20 > link_elf_obj: symbol ata_controlcmd undefined > linker_load_file: Unsupported file type >=20 > It appears between between > ZFS storage pool version 28 > and > drm0: on vgapci0 >=20 > uname -a: >=20 > FreeBSD phenom.cordula.ws 9.0-STABLE FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #0 > r235604: Fri May 18 15:49:06 CEST 2012 root@phenom.cordula.ws: > /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >=20 > TIA, > -cpghost. >=20 > --=20 > Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 05:07:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF701065672 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 05:07:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subhro@80386.org) Received: from oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy8.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A22A98FC08 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 05:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19006 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jun 2012 05:07:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box761.bluehost.com) (66.147.244.61) by oproxy8.bluehost.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2012 05:07:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=80386.org; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject; bh=t1wmb48gR6vE8viSLPk4SJG0VOUr6Jugjf6ZG310eY4=; b=mMT1k5YiCcXyiNtufn/CXNPmaQJa04drPxy6ofy7rz/IEy2o631IBNJG6ZEYF3lDya0w1eCoJ9QyGZXsGAU3QVRA6bB1VEWI0CzvzAhggLW0BRV9Q6L5qZWQ8rKR32P3; Received: from [117.194.32.145] (port=49918 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by box761.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SdaNR-0007jt-Qo; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 23:07:50 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Subhro Sankha Kar In-Reply-To: <1339303294.3208.6.camel@localhost> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 10:37:45 +0530 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1844503E-EC4C-4AA5-837B-71E72A9FC829@80386.org> References: <1339303294.3208.6.camel@localhost> To: The Todds X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Identified-User: {1190:box761.bluehost.com:pixelpa2:80386.org} {sentby:smtp auth 117.194.32.145 authed with subhro@80386.org} Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Chromium Crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 05:07:50 -0000 Hello, It looks like you have hit a documented bug. See this: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=3D125447 http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome?view=3Drev&revision=3D141116 Did you try upgrading your ports? Thanks Subhro -- Subhro Sankha Kar System Administrator Working and Playing with FreeBSD since 2002 On 10-Jun-2012, at 10:11 AM, The Todds wrote: > I have just have built and installed Chromium 19.0.1084.52 from the > ports on my amd64 machine - 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Sat Nov = 5 > 08:40:03 NZDT 2011=20 >=20 > Portversion chromium-19.0.1084.52_2 =3D up-to-date with port >=20 > On web sites which contains graphics Chromium crashes with the = following > error: >=20 > [3152:171983296:14310963010:ERROR:CONSOLE(1)] "Uncaught = ReferenceError: > ntp is not defined", source: (1) >=20 > Any ideas how to resolve this issue. >=20 > Glenn >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 05:12:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BDE1106566C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 05:12:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subhro@80386.org) Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 43E698FC0C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 05:12:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20925 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jun 2012 05:12:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box761.bluehost.com) (66.147.244.61) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2012 05:12:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=80386.org; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject; bh=AhWNUN6i+6JUvGNz6V8sAptzWEhzdnTFhHKhnSQjrZQ=; b=WvGozbtFxjq8uPQuz7o1A0Q/hmMraBgK48GuvyLLb76USyumNhfFR7KaYIxwYlsf7meScKU3mkMWF7bQu+2odv5tMFy+GOyMT0kl5nh7Buf7HrWsxnvZUdvvMmFFZJeD; Received: from [117.194.32.145] (port=49943 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by box761.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SdaSL-00044a-Hc; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 23:12:53 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Subhro Sankha Kar In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 10:42:48 +0530 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4FD34E2A.7060700@dreamchaser.org> <20120609233827.497b2ca4@gumby.homeunix.com> To: illoai@gmail.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Identified-User: {1190:box761.bluehost.com:pixelpa2:80386.org} {sentby:smtp auth 117.194.32.145 authed with subhro@80386.org} Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ran out of inodes on /var, recommended value? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 05:12:54 -0000 On 10-Jun-2012, at 6:13 AM, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > On 9 June 2012 18:38, RW wrote: >> On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 07:22:50 -0600 >> Gary Aitken wrote: >>=20 >>> I reconfigured my ssd filesystem with the /var partition of size >>> 512M. Unfortunately, something in portsnap or the ports tree in >>> general uses a boatload of small files, and i ran out of inodes. = Can >>> anyone recommend an appropriate size for the newfs -i value? 1024? >>> less? >>=20 >> portsnap needs roughly one file per port plus one for each >> out of date port during a fetch. There are 23658 ports. >>=20 >> In FreeBSD 9 the fragment size increased, halving the default number = of >> inodes. With only 32k inodes it's possible to run out with portsnap >> alone. You can probably get away with the old default of 64k (-i >> 8192), or perhaps 128k (-i 4096). Check how many files you have = outside >> of portsnap and do the arithmetic. >>=20 >=20 > Or, move the portsnap tree to somewhere other than /var > (see /etc/portsnap.conf for that & such). > I think that a file-backed md* mounted only when portsnap > was in use would save on inodes, yeah? Actually I think that is a very good idea. That is how I have set up my = system as well with one difference. I have tons of memory and use a = memory based filesystem to store all the in-compile objects. -- Subhro Sankha Kar System Administrator Working and Playing with FreeBSD since 2002= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 06:09:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1701C106566C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 06:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g.todd@internet.co.nz) Received: from angus.iconz.co.nz (etrn.iconz.co.nz [210.48.22.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2B48FC0A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 06:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by angus.iconz.co.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11F65D8001 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:09:51 +1200 (NZST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at angus.iconz.co.nz Received: from angus.iconz.co.nz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (angus.iconz.co.nz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wxRi6kSfF8iV for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:09:50 +1200 (NZST) Received: from mail.internet.co.nz (mail.internet.co.nz [210.48.22.150]) by angus.iconz.co.nz (Postfix) with SMTP id CFC463F801D for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:09:50 +1200 (NZST) Received: (qmail 9738 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2012 18:09:49 +1200 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (210.185.20.203) by mail.internet.co.nz with SMTP; 10 Jun 2012 18:09:49 +1200 From: The Todds To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <1844503E-EC4C-4AA5-837B-71E72A9FC829@80386.org> References: <1339303294.3208.6.camel@localhost> <1844503E-EC4C-4AA5-837B-71E72A9FC829@80386.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:10:14 +1200 Message-ID: <1339308614.3208.11.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subhro Sankha Kar Subject: Re: Chromium Crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 06:09:54 -0000 Yes this is the latest build (5th June) of Chromium. I suppose I could revert to the 18.0.1025.168 version using portdowngrade until this fault is fixed. Glenn On Sun, 2012-06-10 at 10:37 +0530, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote: > Hello, > > It looks like you have hit a documented bug. See this: > > http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=125447 > http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome?view=rev&revision=141116 > > Did you try upgrading your ports? > > Thanks > Subhro > > -- > Subhro Sankha Kar > System Administrator > Working and Playing with FreeBSD since 2002 > > On 10-Jun-2012, at 10:11 AM, The Todds wrote: > > > I have just have built and installed Chromium 19.0.1084.52 from the > > ports on my amd64 machine - 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Sat Nov 5 > > 08:40:03 NZDT 2011 > > > > Portversion chromium-19.0.1084.52_2 = up-to-date with port > > > > On web sites which contains graphics Chromium crashes with the following > > error: > > > > [3152:171983296:14310963010:ERROR:CONSOLE(1)] "Uncaught ReferenceError: > > ntp is not defined", source: (1) > > > > Any ideas how to resolve this issue. > > > > Glenn > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 07:45:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7AFE106566C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 07:45:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subhro@80386.org) Received: from oproxy9.bluehost.com (oproxy9.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A5A758FC1B for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 07:45:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13691 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jun 2012 07:45:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box761.bluehost.com) (66.147.244.61) by oproxy9.bluehost.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2012 07:45:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=80386.org; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject; bh=rPlp1yz+Ryu3s8qiPHkk8Yt3a228bhJ7eFBRPxo0CW0=; b=NkBWu/ArBBihbdRXHdiPQr/ADfx8H4sXsjlpmGW5XPmAvZko3dqjwPOIEELcOuZdrs2GUD7cBlagQZi+T1l71vW1llVGxh//I4d8NVoo/KB8EqZD7sOho6JRdJ9RSdHC; Received: from [117.194.32.145] (port=53136 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by box761.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SdcqL-0005dS-Ra; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 01:45:50 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Subhro Sankha Kar In-Reply-To: <1339308614.3208.11.camel@localhost> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:15:44 +0530 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <79763B58-FD6C-49A5-9D9A-48752287D611@80386.org> References: <1339303294.3208.6.camel@localhost> <1844503E-EC4C-4AA5-837B-71E72A9FC829@80386.org> <1339308614.3208.11.camel@localhost> To: The Todds X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Identified-User: {1190:box761.bluehost.com:pixelpa2:80386.org} {sentby:smtp auth 117.194.32.145 authed with subhro@80386.org} Cc: chromium@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Chromium Crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 07:45:51 -0000 Hello, On 10-Jun-2012, at 11:40 AM, The Todds wrote: > Yes this is the latest build (5th June) of Chromium. I suppose I could > revert to the 18.0.1025.168 version using portdowngrade until this > fault is fixed. >=20 > Glenn It looks like the port is lagging back from mainstream. You could also = write to the maintainers. I am copying the maintainers just in case = someone is already on it. Thanks Subhro -- Subhro Sankha Kar System Administrator Working and Playing with FreeBSD since 2002 > On Sun, 2012-06-10 at 10:37 +0530, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote: >> Hello, >>=20 >> It looks like you have hit a documented bug. See this: >>=20 >> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=3D125447 >> http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome?view=3Drev&revision=3D141116 >>=20 >> Did you try upgrading your ports? >>=20 >> Thanks >> Subhro >>=20 >> -- >> Subhro Sankha Kar >> System Administrator >> Working and Playing with FreeBSD since 2002 >>=20 >> On 10-Jun-2012, at 10:11 AM, The Todds wrote: >>=20 >>> I have just have built and installed Chromium 19.0.1084.52 from the >>> ports on my amd64 machine - 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Sat = Nov 5 >>> 08:40:03 NZDT 2011=20 >>>=20 >>> Portversion chromium-19.0.1084.52_2 =3D up-to-date with port >>>=20 >>> On web sites which contains graphics Chromium crashes with the = following >>> error: >>>=20 >>> [3152:171983296:14310963010:ERROR:CONSOLE(1)] "Uncaught = ReferenceError: >>> ntp is not defined", source: (1) >>>=20 >>> Any ideas how to resolve this issue. >>>=20 >>> Glenn >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 08:00:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C21106564A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 08:00:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C228FC0A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 08:00:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sdd4x-0006ne-Tt for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 10:00:55 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 10:00:55 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 10:00:55 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 08:00:34 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <20120609171225.GA2860@rusty.rusty.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Re: Problems with portupgrade libreoffice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 08:01:00 -0000 On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 20:46:49 +0000, Walter Hurry wrote: > On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 18:12:25 +0100, Dave Morgan wrote: > >> On 09/06/12 at 04:41P, Walter Hurry wrote: >>> FreeBSD 9 on x86_64. >>> >>> I am in the process of doing a portupgrade on libreoffice (from 3.4.4 >>> to 3.5.2.5). During the build it has (so far) errored out 4 times, in >>> the following modules: >>> >>> vcl framework sfx2 tail_build >>> >>> Each time, it told me to go into the subdirectory, do a gmake clean >>> and a gmake -r there, then return to the top level and rerun make. >>> >>> This I duly did, but to my surprise, each time I ran the gmake -r, it >>> completed successfully. >>> >>> When the top-level make finally succeeds, I intend simply to rerun the >>> portupgrade, on the theory that seeing everything already made, it >>> will just do the uninstall/reinstall, sort out the dependencies and so >>> forth. >>> >>> Q1) Is this a sensible approach? >>> >>> Q2) Has anyone else seen this? What is going on? >> >> There is a thread in the forums which recommends removing boost-libs >> and boost-jam, building libreoffice then reinstalling them. >> >> I did this and it worked for me. > > Thanks. I'll try that and report back. Yes, that did the trick. It zoomed through! Very many thanks. I'll need to keep an eye on the forum, methinks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 08:31:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE5A106566B for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 08:31:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76BC8FC14 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 08:31:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (h-185-55.a189.priv.bahnhof.se [85.24.185.55]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E70545A90 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:21:17 +0400 (MSK) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:20:57 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120610082056.GA12735@external.screwed.box> References: <4FD38B9A.4010400@qeng-ho.org> <12119.1339295453@tristatelogic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <12119.1339295453@tristatelogic.com> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 08:31:26 -0000 Hello. 2012/06/09 19:30:53 -0700 "Ronald F. Guilmette" => To Arthur Chance : RFG> Thank you Arthur, and yes, trying to back up a partition that's currently RFG> mounted r/w using dd will almost certainly not produce the desired results. You can make snapshot to back up rw-mounted volume with dd. dump(8)ing rw-mounted ufs makes a snapshot behind the scenes. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E26627 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 08:46:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5978A106566C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 08:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout05.plus.net (avasout05.plus.net [84.93.230.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E248FC08 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 08:46:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout05 with smtp id LYiv1j001516WCc01YiwH4; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 09:42:56 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Pct9d1dd c=1 sm=1 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=rLpCYgkgFLgA:10 a=RLl8lpB8pwYA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=llll_gDaQCSbydyZMfYA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SddjY-0008GA-VV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 09:42:55 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 09:42:52 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <12119.1339295453@tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: <12119.1339295453@tristatelogic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201206100942.52461.mike@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mike@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,TW_ZF autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) Subject: Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 08:46:07 -0000 On Sunday 10 June 2012 03:30:53 Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > I don't care to take own my system to make backups... and don't believe > that I should have to do so, and thus, this is one of the reasons why I > would prefer to use something like cpio. > > Also, I don't like backups taking longer than absolutely necessary, and > this is why I am specifically _not_ attracted to either the dd solution > or to dump/restore, Not an immediate solution but have you considered switching from UFS to ZFS ? If you have sufficient memory and CPU power then this might be worth the effort. Creating ZFS snapshots and backing them up incrementally with zfs send | zfs receive should be very quick. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 09:12:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31DDC106564A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 09:12:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97BA08FC12 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 09:12:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q5A9CkX7096739 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 04:12:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 04:12:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201206100912.q5A9CkX7096739@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <12119.1339295453@tristatelogic.com> Subject: Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 09:12:18 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 9 21:33:57 2012 > To: Arthur Chance > Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 19:30:53 -0700 > From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? > > > In message <4FD38B9A.4010400@qeng-ho.org>, > Arthur Chance wrote: > > >There's a BFI (brute force and ignorance) way of doing it in the base > >system - dd. Provided your system disk is quiescent (ideally when > >running from a live CD or all partitions mounted read-only, otherwise > >pray to the deity of your choice) and the backup disk is a) at least as > >large as the system disk, and b) has the same sector size, then a simple > >dd from the system disk to the backup should work. > > Thank you Arthur, and yes, trying to back up a partition that's currently > mounted r/w using dd will almost certainly not produce the desired results. > > And of course, as you correctly note also, the target partition had best be > at least as big as the source (and perhaps even identical in size). > > I don't care to take own my system to make backups... and don't believe > that I should have to do so, and thus, this is one of the reasons why I > would prefer to use something like cpio. > > Also, I don't like backups taking longer than absolutely necessary, and > this is why I am specifically _not_ attracted to either the dd solution > or to dump/restore, because as I understand it, with either of these methods > you end up copying perhaps a metric buttload worth of unallocated free > disk space. (I would prefer not to do that. It just seems wasteful... > of time, if nothing else.) Dump does *NOT* copy 'unallocated free disk space'. It does a directory- based traversal. And copies only the contents of the files encountered. does not copy 'deleted but still open' files, nor does it include deleted directory entries in the copy of the directory. dump _can_ be used on a r/w-mounted filesystem. It is smart enough to make multiple passes, note files that have changed since the prior pass, and re-copy those changed files into the archive. As long as changes are relatvely 'infrequent', and to 'small' files, dump will generally manage to outrun the changes. Since dump works through the O/S, it also catches data and/or meta-data changes that are buffered/cached in O/S memory that have not actually made it to disk, yet. Using dump on a mounted, active, writable filesystem is "not recommended", but it -does- work adequately, assuming the write activity on the filesystem is low. *IF* the filesystem is fairly full, with source and dest arranged such that they do not saturate I/O controller capabilities, 'dd' (or, preferably 'ddd' which is a double-buffered drop-in replacement) with large buffers (several times the size of the 'on disk' cache'), _is_ the fastest way to make a backup of the data. > Also, in one case, one of my partitions has one directory that contains > a really massive amount of stuff, and I specifically _don't_ need any of > that particular stuff (in that one directory) backed up. So again, I'm > looking at tar or cpio or perhaps pax. (Of course cpio is more full-featured > than tar, and I don't really know anything about pax, so that leaves me > with cpio.) Pax (the portable archiver) is the "new, improved, with miracle whitener" cpio -- does everthing tradtional cpio does, and more. it will read/write four different (and mutually incompatable) 'cpio' formats, and two different 'tar' formats. One can replace pretty much any use of 'cpio' or 'tar' (or their cousins) with pax. It _is_ worth investigating. > when. (Sigh. The good old daze.... when men were men, and the bits ran > scared!) > > Moral of the story is that sometimes it actually does pay to be a smartass. > > > Regards, > rfg > > > P.S. It really is a Damn Shame[tm] that nobody ever hacked FreeBSD cpio > to make it be able to copy (a) the extra file flag/mode bits and/or (b) > file ACLs and/or (c) file attributes. If pax doesn't already support extended flags, it would be a relatively trivial hack to get it to do so. Ditto for ACLs. pax uses libarchive ("man 3 archive") which has the capabilities for handling those things in the description of an archive entry. One would probably want to declare it as a separate archive 'type' -- to support auto-detect of the inclusion of that 'extended' metadata. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 09:43:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99004106566C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 09:43:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bycn82@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF1D8FC0A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 09:43:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfy7 with SMTP id fy7so2023538vcb.13 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 02:43:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dBF9G4InDYzB+fapKgDhdgdU98gbswewHYXX1jAgdaM=; b=Bwe7dFDIARrjp/A0Qqfezq161dDEWVQTjCZ8717fAF10kclZHjngX/ibSayWYKZzKf Bx+o6Y9e+GNmH96R/gjHXy9YCqUwyqZ6Sb2pFdw4Zp1XWa3FASCH6UQrCr4FuLO1JLZt hHSk9qn4idoOgNz5glZf1kD9MZrJYw1/XzgvxGMertjQE1G5ICXDZmqxXCUJjB9Oz01F /LlJaXr5FcqbY39CktsTz6vcyEuly+CfAVlMHxtDyKYkMWi8ZU2DKweHiakDdM+8R3WM x1/JF3CJDvI978e7GuG0uPAZ+o/2k8/bFVlW8MN5j2PthPxN+GeOjInDKWMVimYeaUbg jvqA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.95.225 with SMTP id dn1mr8786697vdb.99.1339321419492; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 02:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.214.70 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 02:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:43:39 +0800 Message-ID: From: Bill Yuan To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: how to allow by MAC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 09:43:40 -0000 Hi, how to allow by MAC in ipfw currently i set the rule like below 1 allow ip from any to any MAC any to 1 allow ip from any to any MAC any 2 deny all from any to any i want to only allow the mac address to go through the freebsd firewall, but I found it is not working on my freebsd but it works on pfsense! so maybe that means the environment is not the same ? and how to setup the ipfw properly to support this ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 11:12:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37D71065670 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE0A8FC08 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:12:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA2B5081F; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 04:12:30 -0700 (PDT) To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 04:12:30 -0700 Message-ID: <9715.1339326750@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Cc: Arthur Chance , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:12:33 -0000 In message , you wrote: >On Sat, 9 Jun 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > >> >> Also, I don't like backups taking longer than absolutely necessary, and >> this is why I am specifically _not_ attracted to either the dd solution >> or to dump/restore, because as I understand it, with either of these methods >> you end up copying perhaps a metric buttload worth of unallocated free >> disk space. > >No, that is one of the biggest advantages of dump over dd. dump knows >UFS, and only copies occupied sectors and needed information. OK. I obviously got the Wrong Impression about dump/restore. Thanks for setting me straight. (I got the Wrong Impression, I think, because I have read assertions like "...dump backs up at the filesystem block level...". What does that mean exactly? Use of the term "block level" in this context makes me think of something operating along the lines of dd.) >> Also, in one case, one of my partitions has one directory that contains >> a really massive amount of stuff, and I specifically _don't_ need any of >> that... backed up. > >Directories and files can be skipped with the nodump flag. I am in your debt again. I really will start looking at dump/restore. >> P.S. It really is a Damn Shame[tm] that nobody ever hacked FreeBSD cpio >> to make it be able to copy (a) the extra file flag/mode bits and/or (b) >> file ACLs and/or (c) file attributes. > >A quick search shows dump should support ACLs. The other stuff is also >there. Try it. > >http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html THANK YOU! I am finding the above document very helpful. It really never even occured to me that one could pipe the output of dump directly to restore. (Obviously, that pairing creates something very much along the lines of cpio's -p option... which is one thing that I _am_ already familiar with.) Now that I've read your helpful document, I do have three short follow-up questions... 1) In your example under the heading "Copying Filesystems", the second shell command line shown is: dump -C16 -b64 -0uanL -h0 -f - /usr | (cd /mnt && restore -ruf -) Is that correct? Shouldn't it actually be this instead? dump -C16 -b64 -0uanL -h0 -f - /usr | (cd /mnt/usr && restore -ruf -) I mean if the goal is to create a whole backup under /mnt that looks just like the whole original system, then shouldn't ``restoration'' of the /usr part of the original system go into /mnt/usr? 2) Towards the end of your document you mention rsync. Assuming that I have made a backup of my entire /usr partition (using dump&restore) into /mnt/usr and that at midnight every night from now on I want to simply refresh that and bring it up to date with the current contents of my actual /usr partition, what is the most proper way to do this? Should I use rsync for that? Or should I use dump&restore again? If that latter, then how exactly does that work? I mean if I do the pipeline from dump to restore as you have shown in your examples in your "Copying Filesystems" section, then what must I do in order prevent dump from dumping files that haven't changed? (And likewise, how do I prevent restore from trying to restore files under /mnt/usr that have not changed? Or is that answer to that question that I simply have to do the first thing, i.e. force dump not to dump any of the unchanged files?) 3) Assuming that I have a second disk to which I plan (now) to use dump&restore to make periodic copies of all of my ``normal'' (non-backup) filesystems onto. Assuming also that I've already installed the FreeBSD boot loader into the boot block on this second disk, and that I've already run fdisk & bsdlabel on it so as to set up all of the partitioning to be essentially identical to my ``main'' system disk. Assuming that all of this is the case, by using dump&restore as you have shown in your document under the heading "Copying Filesystems", will I have succeded at doing what I was first asking about in this thread, i.e. will I have successfully created a _bootable_ mirror of my main system disk... something that I can just plug in and go with, when and if disaster strikes and my main system disk suffers a horrifying head crash, you know, the day after the manufacturer's warranty period is up? 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:23:28 -0000 On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 03:27:25 +0200 Damien Fleuriot articulated: >On 9 Jun 2012, at 18:48, Chad Perrin wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 11:42:37PM +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >>> >>> On 6 Jun 2012, at 21:52, Dave U. Random >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Polytropon wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:47:11 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: >>>>>> Having to pay Verisign instead of Microsoft makes no difference: >>>>>> the point is why should I have to pay anything to a third party >>>>>> in order to run whatever OS I want on a piece of hardware I own? >>>> >>>> It's time to dump the Intel/Microshaft mafia forever. FreeBSD, >>>> OpenBSD, NetBSD, and even Linux have ports to many platforms. Why >>>> stay on Intel? It's an overgrown ugly mess. >>>> >>>> We need to stop buying Intel mafiaware with preinstalled >>>> Microshaft mafiware and run a free (or in the case of Linux >>>> "apparently free") OS on free hardware. >>>> >>>> There are increasing numbers of SBCs and plenty of used servers on >>>> Ebay. They're all built better than commodity Intel mafiaware. Good >>>> riddance! >>>> >>> You have no idea what you're talking about. >>> >>> This kind of religious propaganda post is neither constructive nor >>> helpful. >> >> It should be noted that your tone is neither constructive nor >> helpful, to say nothing of your contentless response. Do you have >> anything useful to say in response to what Dave U. Random >> contributed -- perhaps a thoughtful refutation of some specific >> point(s)? I hope you have more of value to contribute than your >> obvious disdain for people who disagree with you about something >> (without even specifying on what points you disagree). >> >If you had bothered to read all the other mails I've posted on this >very specific thread, you wouldn't need to ask the question. > >If you're going to participate in the Linux zealots' propaganda that >makes OSS defenders sound so ridiculous and delusional, so be it. > >Fact is, if Microsoft didn't deliver acceptable products, people >wouldn't use them. Calling them a mafia is neither constructive (I >invite you to look up the word mafia in a thesaurus), nor backed up by >actual facts. > >OP is just going on a rampage about MS and intel. > >You want to follow his advice and advocate the exclusive use of alpha >machines ? I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here. >No, I'm not gonna use alphas. >And no, I'm not going to let a random person (hey, choice words !) >call intel or MS a mafia just because he's on a zealot crusade. > >You might want to take a minute to consider the contributions of both >to computing. Without MS (and IBM amongst others) it's possible that >computing would never have reached such an audience as it has. So I'm >going with the (possibly false) assumption that without MS and other >major actors, not many people would use computers nowadays. All this >magnificent OSS wouldn't be of much use then. After all, who would >need FreeBSD servers to host web sites that had neither visitors nor >purpose ? > >One might see MS as the ultimate evil, yet they're strongly >implemented in corporate IT. One might wonder why, before engaging in >a crusade, and brandishing empty words as their weapons. > >I invite you to re-read OP's post and highlight what in "mafiaware", >"wintel" and "microshaft" you find constructive. I also invite you to >read all his points about why exactly intel is an "overgrown ugly >mess". I regret to report I have found none, might you point them out >for me ? > >Now, I shall leave you to read my other posts on this "secure boot" >topic, that you might quit claiming I have nothing to >contribute._______________________________________________ It is fairly easy to understand both sides in this discussion. When Microsoft supporters refer to open-source software as "open-sore" or "socialist-software" the FOSS community becomes enraged. However, when the open-source community retaliates it is considered acceptable. Quite frankly I read far more Microsoft based forums than open-source based ones and I can say without a doubt, at least in my experience, Microsoft proponents never attack open-source with the venomous hatred that open-source attacks Microsoft. In fact, the majority of Microsoft users that I know could not care less about what they consider an overly burdensome (geeky) open-source operating system. The whole argument can probably be boiled do to this: Disparaging other operating systems (Microsoft) and pointing out its failures is beneficial, constructive and therapeutic. Pointing out problems and failures regarding your own OS is destructive and flame bait. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 12:23:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5115106566B for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:23:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916A58FC17 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:23:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5ACNEtg075739; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 06:23:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5ACNEFu075736; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 06:23:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 06:23:14 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" In-Reply-To: <9715.1339326750@tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: References: <9715.1339326750@tristatelogic.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 10 Jun 2012 06:23:14 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Arthur Chance , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:23:15 -0000 On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > (I got the Wrong Impression, I think, because I have read assertions like > "...dump backs up at the filesystem block level...". What does that mean > exactly? Use of the term "block level" in this context makes me think of > something operating along the lines of dd.) Rather than reading just the contents of files, dump operates at a lower level, backing up all of the blocks used by a filesystem. > 1) In your example under the heading "Copying Filesystems", the second > shell command line shown is: > > dump -C16 -b64 -0uanL -h0 -f - /usr | (cd /mnt && restore -ruf -) > > Is that correct? Shouldn't it actually be this instead? > > dump -C16 -b64 -0uanL -h0 -f - /usr | (cd /mnt/usr && restore -ruf -) > > I mean if the goal is to create a whole backup under /mnt that looks just > like the whole original system, then shouldn't ``restoration'' of the /usr > part of the original system go into /mnt/usr? The mount command above that is mount /dev/da0s1f /mnt The "f" indicates it's a split filesystem layout, where /, /var, /tmp, and /usr are separate filesystems in different partitions. That's a traditional layout in FreeBSD. bsdinstall in FreeBSD 9 creates a single filesystem, / . Restoring a dump of a /usr filesystem would go to /mnt/usr in that case. (That would mean you are converting from the split layout to a single filesystem, because with a combined filesystem you can't easily back up just /usr with dump. dump does not "cross filesystems" when making a backup.) > 2) Towards the end of your document you mention rsync. Assuming that I > have made a backup of my entire /usr partition (using dump&restore) into > /mnt/usr and that at midnight every night from now on I want to simply > refresh that and bring it up to date with the current contents of my > actual /usr partition, what is the most proper way to do this? Should > I use rsync for that? Or should I use dump&restore again? If that latter, > then how exactly does that work? I mean if I do the pipeline from dump > to restore as you have shown in your examples in your "Copying Filesystems" > section, then what must I do in order prevent dump from dumping files that > haven't changed? (And likewise, how do I prevent restore from trying to > restore files under /mnt/usr that have not changed? Or is that answer to > that question that I simply have to do the first thing, i.e. force dump > not to dump any of the unchanged files?) See the dump man page about dump levels. I have not tried a dump level higher than zero with a dump|restore copy, but expect it to work. rsync will do it, and would be my choice for that; start with -aH for options, and --exclude might be used for some directories that don't need to be copied. Also see the sysutils/rsnapshot port for an interesting snapshot use. Combined with a bootable FreeBSD like mfsBSD (http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/), that might be a workable alternative to creating a bootable backup. > 3) Assuming that I have a second disk to which I plan (now) to use > dump&restore to make periodic copies of all of my ``normal'' (non-backup) > filesystems onto. Assuming also that I've already installed the FreeBSD > boot loader into the boot block on this second disk, and that I've already > run fdisk & bsdlabel on it so as to set up all of the partitioning to be > essentially identical to my ``main'' system disk. Assuming that all of > this is the case, by using dump&restore as you have shown in your document > under the heading "Copying Filesystems", will I have succeded at doing what > I was first asking about in this thread, i.e. will I have successfully > created a _bootable_ mirror of my main system disk... something that I > can just plug in and go with, when and if disaster strikes and my main > system disk suffers a horrifying head crash, you know, the day after the > manufacturer's warranty period is up? With some tuning, yes. /etc/fstab mountpoints often won't match when such a drive is connected to a different port or new system. Use gpart(8) GPT labels or tunefs(8) filesystem labels. Likewise with the Ethernet board, so see rc.conf(5) about ifconfig_DEFAULT. gpart and GPT are easier than fdisk and bsdlabel. I really need to flip that disk setup article upside down, with gpart first as the new goodness. See also: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/labels.html http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 13:09:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9521065670 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:09:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bycn82@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10318FC16 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:09:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfy7 with SMTP id fy7so2063485vcb.13 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 06:09:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Hyh3QOKARnlP6wKQCCThrjpGgjrxfA9m4IkTytkBsjs=; b=DlpEWDdnTljj16ZLb0XbP39CcwstZBKjeQaTcJKImV+dufCit0YHx3BIaLaGoh74dA 7ge3SqKecB3417ZXbJmKaPUzYLpyL1Md+Hrf9maDK1WIkkJJlji+h3a6xYGVUdHWwiPx BNnhT+spjzNrcx+XeltAk3IrsVy6Oq9bXqnnHiKDRgDjM4bE5yDYvHr04sl+Ds24DCji vmpQ64csXkOc7dXBeK+aa8LOuuI8Yc913cEd3fX1whBoB60FMWNOue0yevgpzTVCu7OP OJKfMp1zPaRUqJxYM3N8cUXbGNVSbiOYgUfvM18bM6QM/GB2XfBoHZdYRoeIXFX3Zlgv bcWQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.242.6 with SMTP id lg6mr2364028vcb.18.1339333741249; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 06:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.214.70 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 06:09:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:09:01 +0800 Message-ID: From: Bill Yuan To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: how to allow by MAC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:09:02 -0000 come on , someone help please, On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Bill Yuan wrote: > Hi, > > how to allow by MAC in ipfw > > currently i set the rule like below > > 1 allow ip from any to any MAC any to > 1 allow ip from any to any MAC any > 2 deny all from any to any > > i want to only allow the mac address to go through the freebsd firewall, > > but I found it is not working on my freebsd but it works on pfsense! > > so maybe that means the environment is not the same ? and how to setup the > ipfw properly to support this ? > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 13:34:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39B5106566C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:34:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5051D8FC18 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBE69B.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.230.155]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q5ADYJdi013555; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:34:20 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5ADY5uT030859; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:34:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5ADXsS5018279; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:34:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201206101334.q5ADXsS5018279@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Bill Yuan From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:09:01 +0800." Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:33:54 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: how to allow by MAC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:34:21 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: Bill Yuan > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:09:01 +0800 > Message-id: Bill Yuan wrote: > come on , someone help please, > > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Bill Yuan wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > how to allow by MAC in ipfw > > > > currently i set the rule like below > > > > 1 allow ip from any to any MAC any to > > 1 allow ip from any to any MAC any > > 2 deny all from any to any > > > > i want to only allow the mac address to go through the freebsd firewall, > > > > but I found it is not working on my freebsd but it works on pfsense! > > > > so maybe that means the environment is not the same ? and how to setup the > > ipfw properly to support this ? Maybe others ignored it for the same reason I did: blocking by MAC number seems weird & of no interest, I block & pass by IP net number. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 13:40:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800D7106564A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:40:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E10E8FC08 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:40:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBE69B.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.230.155]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q5ADehHG013637; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:40:44 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5ADeXYs030906; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:40:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5ADeRua018510; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:40:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201206101340.q5ADeRua018510@fire.js.berklix.net> From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:33:54 +0200." Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:40:27 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Bill Yuan , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: how to allow by MAC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:40:46 -0000 "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > Bill Yuan wrote: > > come on , someone help please, > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Bill Yuan wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > how to allow by MAC in ipfw > > > > > > currently i set the rule like below > > > > > > 1 allow ip from any to any MAC any to > > > 1 allow ip from any to any MAC any > > > 2 deny all from any to any > > > > > > i want to only allow the mac address to go through the freebsd firewall, > > > > > > but I found it is not working on my freebsd but it works on pfsense! > > > > > > so maybe that means the environment is not the same ? and how to setup the > > > ipfw properly to support this ? > > Maybe others ignored it for the same reason I did: blocking by MAC > number seems weird & of no interest, I block & pass by IP net number. as shown by ifconfig MAC : 6 byte IP : 4 byte (IPV4) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". 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Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 15:09:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B708D106572B for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:09:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remailer@dizum.com) Received: from smtp.zedz.net (outpost.zedz.net [194.109.206.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E8668FC15 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:09:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.zedz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9773D1AA43A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:09:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.zedz.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZdfmvF5bUjbh for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:09:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: by smtp.zedz.net (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 470B11AA43B; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:09:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Nomen Nescio Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20120610072320.43359222@scorpio> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:09:17 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:09:32 -0000 This is really missing the point. The issue is not open source vs. proprietary although many people seem to try to steer everything into that meaningless conflict. The point is the WinTel Mafia's many years of collusion and screwing over the customer. Try to buy a commodity PC in any major store and it will come with Windows, and you have to pay for it. Now the WinTel Mafia got many companies onboard with their system to lock you out from the box you just bought. Bad enough it comes with Windows and you had to pay for it, and you don't even get an install disk. But the WinTel Mafia adds insult to injury and stops you from installing whatever software you want on it. What does this have to do with OSS v. proprietary source? Nothing! It is just about the WinTel Mafia's illegal, abuse trade practices. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 16:17:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A164A106566C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:17:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721D48FC0C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:17:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so4767223pbb.13 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 09:17:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0XXGWz+LveSF2P0y2r0z8Ut5EkXoP7LFIKkdTmUpDRQ=; b=QLKUgq9rt7Iikzhn3ih3qu83KwFJH3wz/l3XacYAZVCkA/j9eKGjV2u9bT5644+WIv f8U9utez8Bn+S8B6EDmhybatSc4xLijhJmDbSa4K3J6xHKA4ZunzFvB8tBTWBdP2fCZN syV1zU3vyveKmxR6bcC+OJmVR92UlTvVjibwMmXkLNgQt3hkzJEzY/dQRkQb7wGvHear 9Bt9OdjDDmDLIfCGWBX6DH2n9G3ydWjqseA+R0nZ8oQ9LZpK3XZ8jO/hAAsEXxtQE5bw 9aPDZRzKWog+BmmHvKFAj+XfJS6x/vvUi/J/xWngsqB9djtSTSPgQNF9jrDrnioHFjCo gcuw== Received: by 10.68.223.138 with SMTP id qu10mr17726210pbc.50.1339345067906; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 09:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pg1sm15270731pbb.41.2012.06.10.09.17.46 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 10 Jun 2012 09:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FD4C9C7.7070206@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 09:22:31 -0700 From: Edward M User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:17:48 -0000 On 06/10/2012 08:09 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote: > This is really missing the point. The issue is not open source > vs. proprietary although many people seem to try to steer everything into > that meaningless conflict. > > The point is the WinTel Mafia's many years of collusion and screwing over > the customer. Try to buy a commodity PC in any major store and it will come > with Windows, and you have to pay for it. Now the WinTel Mafia got many > companies onboard with their system to lock you out from the box you just > bought. Bad enough it comes with Windows and you had to pay for it, and you > don't even get an install disk. But the WinTel Mafia adds insult to injury > and stops you from installing whatever software you want on it. > > What does this have to do with OSS v. proprietary source? Nothing! > > It is just about the WinTel Mafia's illegal, abuse trade practices. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Need to have that congitiive distortion ckecked out because it makes it difficult to bring a logical conclusion, and creates an ill perspective on reality and keeps the person with a child like mentality; which makes the person to excerise worlds like wintel mafia,etc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 16:31:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022391065673 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:31:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836428FC0C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:31:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B72E64EB; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:32:31 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=nqY0AQhn26T+ SsWYu19D6CxRRtE=; b=HOgelCdS+tvA+jqm6gc1sYWDx+bOjNrGC8itl3ZD6W39 cNEsPc9j2mojIh2pRlgXN5RlNiBalhFzk5jEUQRb9Hx/UP2x40U8hHiYmG58ja/u iM23Vflz/UJq8RVi2ApPylj0COJ7W3TzQ8/ytrWheK4L6aYaCCyOyrhGGurfMl8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=J0KH7r xVTffhngYrsgYk8NaxLdFe3id1LYPOG41ExQdWwkKX5oC3+dAy+un4/7EKflV2B/ eQz3hfXITcxlW2a4MLYBDaR5fDgahUMQyrZSpU/Hvpmk7+9hc8urEMyodAmXnBwD lf5a+Y7+47dLE6Fz3mWO37qDrGFKQ9NCf8YXg= Received: from [192.168.2.12] (unknown [93.89.81.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5DFA8E6403; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:32:31 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4FD4CBEE.1030503@cran.org.uk> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:31:42 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120604 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nomen Nescio References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:31:45 -0000 On 10/06/2012 16:09, Nomen Nescio wrote: > The point is the WinTel Mafia's many years of collusion and screwing over > the customer. Try to buy a commodity PC in any major store and it will come > with Windows, and you have to pay for it. Does Intel control AMD too? Last I checked there are plenty of AMD machines in major stores and they come with Windows too. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 16:37:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B288C106566C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:37:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8198FC0C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:37:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q5AGbTME026633 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 10:37:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FD4CD49.40605@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 10:37:29 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120609 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 10 Jun 2012 10:37:30 -0600 (MDT) Subject: ports: make config-recursive doesn't really X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:37:36 -0000 I'm trying to build a script to rebuild and reinstall everything I have installed from ports. I don't want to have to keep checking on it and filling out the appropriate check boxes for options. I naively assumed: for port in $ports do cd /usr/port/$port make config-recursive cd ../.. done would allow me to set up all the dependencies before continuing with the install. It appears, however, that it doesn't really recurse properly. I say "appears" only because this is my first time trying this and despite doing the above setting of options, I am confronted with additional options screens as the build progresses. Is there a way to get around this? Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 16:47:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D87106564A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:47:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8038FC0C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:47:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q5AGlBlE026662 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 10:47:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FD4CF8F.3030701@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 10:47:11 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120609 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 10 Jun 2012 10:47:12 -0600 (MDT) Subject: fn going to X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:47:13 -0000 What's the trick to allow fn to still be used to switch vtys when running X? At first I thought it was the wm grabbing it, but I've disabled that and now it goes to whatever app has the focus. Seems like something in the kernel has to grab it before it gets passed on to X. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 16:55:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BB31065675 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:55:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E6C8FC1A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfy7 with SMTP id fy7so2118428vcb.13 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 09:55:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=qOhIsaCAxxlCMp7nV1HuQsTa3xToyN4oOYB9i4uvA4c=; b=KZijHNRPqTmBx+Q6aluW6NK40etYOhCsvh2p2jeExNF78eDe04r/D9hT/PUB/mVv3z gsr/K0V7soAJR7DS3KOM11tSLHEkP0dNNAoS2qvImp92SkhG5VV47+xE8+sLCYuLdExE lExaE1q+TgsD9iRYSQWCcop322QukQUUpsQn8LkUP9odFMXnp40y73cXuq/WZQSSgscx xbL34O+ZNu76YF7Su5abLcjZCeJXMO0/RIbY/UjWDdryBSmORk8uyh/qoLmVuRrNUdMg byLHWKr9O6n/e05C+2tfh8T36lZTcmxve3ZJTYbNk+anBwHWA/XYiY03ILE1U2b8nErS zKPQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.72.79 with SMTP id b15mr9368909vdv.13.1339347325066; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 09:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.106.166 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 09:55:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FD4CBEE.1030503@cran.org.uk> References: <4FD4CBEE.1030503@cran.org.uk> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 09:55:24 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Bruce Cran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnRrtxJv82GO7aDcDyeFG6/SECQZa0rd8rFXe2FNj4ERgyN/KWttis2IjdDy0ek3OFvdFFP Cc: Nomen Nescio , FreeBSD Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:55:27 -0000 On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Bruce Cran wrote: > Does Intel control AMD too? Last I checked there are plenty of AMD machines > in major stores and they come with Windows too. So... attempting to bring reason into the argument? That won't do, I'm afraid. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 17:02:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3975106566C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:02:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7205A8FC08 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q5AH2FwG026714 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:02:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FD4D317.3020503@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:02:15 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120609 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FD4CF8F.3030701@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: <4FD4CF8F.3030701@dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:02:15 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: fn going to X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:02:16 -0000 On 06/10/12 10:47, Gary Aitken wrote: > What's the trick to allow fn to still be used to switch vtys when running X? > At first I thought it was the wm grabbing it, but I've disabled that and now it goes to whatever app has the focus. Seems like something in the kernel has to grab it before it gets passed on to X. I see it's fn when in X. However, once out of X on another vty, switching to the vty where X was started does not get me back to X. How do I get back to the X display which is running? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 17:16:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050F61065686 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:16:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805838FC08 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn6 with SMTP id hn6so1749769wib.13 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 10:16:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=o+KtCZVUDK0YEzQ2wGvWfxYfCIRZHwV9AUPZytnwBFY=; b=w8xDqdPBxFl5OjcEJ1uJcZRW3GH/8Zpkne0yFUKqQZnpX7A0m5DQ6wNPTTc4Zjpw8d FoqMiZXvxI7dWiiJBc7PQ78ckMD/iBaSmz1SiqUwzKWaaBdxtBYJOIt0QrANO3vxniPH qw1bw0yA0rYhgXsvCnN9sdaIkku3AGf07f/lCLz6eX1ACjI/sBAkFKIrS6yVHJDIIM/T b1Sy53s/QmvXzmiXjPIP0RvhtAoYK5vAcAL/GKHssPBjRN2zHgX784ynZGMkcjKkulxE m0g4K8jR4NKU9TgWgC+CKjtfNpCAwnHR/P0AJXiZu39zDcamJgoYAakNSLLgXozMZNWL 4hhw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.141.31 with SMTP id f31mr4890605wej.53.1339348600541; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 10:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.160.67 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 10:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 10:16:40 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: USB 3.0 delay in 'detecting' attached drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:16:42 -0000 Hi, I have a new machine with 2 USB 3.0 ports and 2 USB 2.0 ports. When I plug a USB 3.0 drive / cable into the USB 3.0 port it takes about 70 seconds for the drive to show up, on the USB 2.0 port it's instantly. I haven't used USB 3.0 with FreeBSD so I'm not sure if this is expected or maybe I need to reconfigure something or look at a different kernel config. here's my info $ uname -a FreeBSD hunny.waitman.net 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0: Sat Jun 2 01:25:21 PDT 2012 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KEYSHIA amd64 Notice the time.. 9:36:49 plugin, 9:37:59 drive shows up. USB 3.0 connect: Jun 10 09:36:49 hunny kernel: ugen1.2: at usbus1 Jun 10 09:36:49 hunny kernel: umass0: on usbus1 Jun 10 09:36:49 hunny kernel: umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x4100 Jun 10 09:36:49 hunny kernel: umass0:4:0:-1: Attached to scbus4 Jun 10 09:37:59 hunny kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus4 target 0 lun 0 Jun 10 09:37:59 hunny kernel: da0: < > Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device Jun 10 09:37:59 hunny kernel: da0: 400.000MB/s transfers Jun 10 09:37:59 hunny kernel: da0: 476940MB (976773167 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 60801C) Jun 10 09:40:30 hunny ntfs-3g[1098]: Mounted /dev/da0s1 (Read-Write, label "MUSIC", NTFS 3.1) Jun 10 09:40:30 hunny ntfs-3g[1098]: Mount options: allow_other,nonempty,atime,fsname=/dev/da0s1 Jun 10 09:41:43 hunny ntfs-3g[1098]: Unmounting /dev/da0s1 (MUSIC) Jun 10 09:41:47 hunny kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): lost device - 0 outstanding, 0 refs Jun 10 09:41:47 hunny kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): removing device entry USB 2.0 - instantly Jun 10 09:42:07 hunny kernel: ugen3.2: at usbus3 Jun 10 09:42:07 hunny kernel: umass0: on usbus3 Jun 10 09:42:07 hunny kernel: umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x4100 Jun 10 09:42:07 hunny kernel: umass0:4:0:-1: Attached to scbus4 Jun 10 09:42:07 hunny kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus4 target 0 lun 0 Jun 10 09:42:07 hunny kernel: da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device Jun 10 09:42:07 hunny kernel: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers Jun 10 09:42:07 hunny kernel: da0: 476940MB (976773167 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 60801C) Jun 10 09:42:24 hunny kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): lost device - 0 outstanding, 0 refs Jun 10 09:42:24 hunny kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): removing device entry ... $ dmesg | grep USB xhci0: mem 0xf0348000-0xf0349fff irq 18 at device 16.0 on pci0 xhci1: mem 0xf034a000-0xf034bfff irq 17 at device 16.1 on pci0 ohci0: mem 0xf034f000-0xf034ffff irq 18 at device 18.0 on pci0 ehci0: mem 0xf034e000-0xf034e0ff irq 17 at device 18.2 on pci0 ohci1: mem 0xf034d000-0xf034dfff irq 18 at device 19.0 on pci0 ehci1: mem 0xf034c000-0xf034c0ff irq 17 at device 19.2 on pci0 usbus0: 5.0Gbps Super Speed USB v3.0 usbus1: 5.0Gbps Super Speed USB v3.0 usbus2: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus3: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 usbus4: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus5: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 umass1: on usbus3 $ pciconfig -lv xhci0@pci0:0:16:0: class=0x0c0330 card=0x358b103c chip=0x78121022 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]' device = 'Hudson USB XHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB xhci1@pci0:0:16:1: class=0x0c0330 card=0x358b103c chip=0x78121022 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]' device = 'Hudson USB XHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB ehci0@pci0:0:18:2: class=0x0c0320 card=0x358b103c chip=0x78081022 rev=0x11 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]' device = 'Hudson USB EHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB ohci1@pci0:0:19:0: class=0x0c0310 card=0x358b103c chip=0x78071022 rev=0x11 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]' device = 'Hudson USB OHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB ehci1@pci0:0:19:2: class=0x0c0320 card=0x358b103c chip=0x78081022 rev=0x11 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]' device = 'Hudson USB EHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB Thank you, Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 17:18:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE74106566C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:18:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8968FC17 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:18:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [71.20.75.102]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A86416B4A6; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:18:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:17:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:17:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.larseighnerhome.com To: Gary Aitken In-Reply-To: <4FD4CF8F.3030701@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: References: <4FD4CF8F.3030701@dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: fn going to X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:18:50 -0000 On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: > What's the trick to allow fn to still be used to switch vtys when > running X? > At first I thought it was the wm grabbing it, but I've disabled that and > now it goes to whatever app has the focus. Seems like something in the > kernel has to grab it before it gets passed on to X. KVM does not allow VT switching (at last report), but changes are promised. Otherwise, in an xterm (or other terminal in X) dump xmodmap in its reloadable form: $xmodmap -pke > foo.txt now you can edit foo.txt as you please. This is mine with ctrl-alt-Fn mapped to VT_switching. keycode 67 = F1 F1 F1 F1 F1 F1 XF86Switch_VT_1 keycode 68 = F2 F2 F2 F2 F2 F2 XF86Switch_VT_2 You may want, for example: keycode 67 = F1 F1 F1 F1 XF86Switch_VT_1 F1 F1 keycode 68 = F2 F2 F2 F2 XF86Switch_VT_2 F2 F2 when you have finished editing, save this file to .xmodmap because you used -pke and were careful in your editing, this can be loaded by your window manager. In fvwm2 that loading looks like: + I exec xmodmap .xmodmap as in, for example: DestroyFunc InitFunction AddToFunc InitFunction + I Module FvwmBanner + I exec xphoon + I exec xmodmap .xmodmap + I exec xmodmap -e "keysym Num_Lock = Num_Lock Pointer_EnableKeys" + I exec xclipboard You can also load .xmodmap by running $xmodmap .xmodmap in an xterm. But you almost certainly want it loaded automatically (as in the fvwm2 example above), but how to do this in your particular window manager you will have to discover from the documentation of your window manger. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 17:29:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9F0106568A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8068FC0A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:29:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5AHT973077128; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:29:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5AHT9jS077125; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:29:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:29:09 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Gary Aitken In-Reply-To: <4FD4D317.3020503@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: References: <4FD4CF8F.3030701@dreamchaser.org> <4FD4D317.3020503@dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:29:09 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fn going to X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:29:13 -0000 On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 06/10/12 10:47, Gary Aitken wrote: >> What's the trick to allow fn to still be used to switch vtys when running X? >> At first I thought it was the wm grabbing it, but I've disabled that and now it goes to whatever app has the focus. Seems like something in the kernel has to grab it before it gets passed on to X. > > I see it's fn when in X. > > However, once out of X on another vty, switching to the vty where X was started does not get me back to X. How do I get back to the X display which is running? Switch to the one that X is running on. It's defined in /etc/ttys, normally ttyv8, so alt-f9 for X. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 17:33:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA917106564A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FCA8FC16 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:33:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [71.20.75.102]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A5C9516B4AE; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:33:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:32:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:32:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.larseighnerhome.com To: Gary Aitken In-Reply-To: <4FD4D317.3020503@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: References: <4FD4CF8F.3030701@dreamchaser.org> <4FD4D317.3020503@dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fn going to X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:33:48 -0000 On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 06/10/12 10:47, Gary Aitken wrote: >> What's the trick to allow fn to still be used to switch vtys when running X? >> At first I thought it was the wm grabbing it, but I've disabled that and now it goes to whatever app has the focus. Seems like something in the kernel has to grab it before it gets passed on to X. > > I see it's fn when in X. > > However, once out of X on another vty, switching to the vty where X was > started does not get me back to X. How do I get back to the X display > which is running? Oh, you have to swith to the vtty where X is running, which certainly is NOT where you started X. Look in /etc/ttys for a line like this: ttyvb "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm off secure The above is not standard on installation, so probably the 'ttyv?' is different. The ? is the ttyv number (in hex) where your X should be running - BUT the hex number start at 0 (zero) while your F keys start with 1. For example, the above says X should run in ttyv b = 11 decimal, but that is associated with F12 (so that F1 can be mapped to ttyv0). It is possible to run some gui programs like zgv without a terminal, but in that case there is no way to switch terminals into or out of them. You can only launch them and quit them. Maybe (or not) X could run like that if you did not have a dedicated ttyv set up in /etc/ttys. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 17:54:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70EF106564A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:54:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0775E8FC12 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:54:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q5AHrvGA047967; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 03:53:57 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 03:53:57 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Bill Yuan In-Reply-To: <20120610120041.4D0F610657C3@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20120611025332.N46641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20120610120041.4D0F610657C3@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to allow by MAC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:54:02 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 418, Issue 18, Message: 1 On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:43:39 +0800 Bill Yuan wrote: > how to allow by MAC in ipfw > > currently i set the rule like below > > 1 allow ip from any to any MAC any to > 1 allow ip from any to any MAC any > 2 deny all from any to any > > i want to only allow the mac address to go through the freebsd firewall, > > but I found it is not working on my freebsd but it works on pfsense! > > so maybe that means the environment is not the same ? and how to setup the > ipfw properly to support this ? Bill, you did get some good clues in the earlier thread, but it's not clear if you took note of them. There's also been some confusion .. Firstly, read up on layer2 (ethernet, MAC-level) filtering options in ipfw(8). Thoroughly, several times, until you've got it. Seriously. After enabling sysctl net.link.ether.ipfw=1 (add it to /etc/sysctl.conf) ipfw will be invoked 4 times instead of the normal 2, on every packet. Read carefully ipfw(8) section 'PACKET FLOW', and see that only on the inbound pass invoked from ether_demux() and the outbound pass invoked from ether_output_frame() can you test for MAC addresses (or mac-types); the 'normal' layer3 passes examine packets that have no layer2 headers. You could just add 'layer2' to any rules filtering on MAC addresses, and omit MAC addresses from all layer 3 (IP) rules, but I'd recommend using a method like shown there to separate layer2 and layer3 flows early on: # packets from ether_demux ipfw add 10 skipto 1000 all from any to any layer2 in # packets from ip_input ipfw add 10 skipto 2000 all from any to any not layer2 in # packets from ip_output ipfw add 10 skipto 3000 all from any to any not layer2 out # packets from ether_output_frame ipfw add 10 skipto 4000 all from any to any layer2 out So at (eg) 1000 and 4000 place your incoming and outgoing MAC filtering rules (remembering the reversed order of MAC addresses vs IP addresses, and to allow broadcasts as well), pass good guys and/or block bad guys, then deal with your normal IPv4|v6 traffic in a separate section(s). Or you could just split the flows into two streams, one for layer2 for your MAC filtering, the other for layer3, ie the rest of your ruleset. HTH, Ian [please cc me on any reply] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 18:29:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A649D106566C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:29:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subhro@80386.org) Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A8AF8FC25 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5894 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jun 2012 18:29:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box761.bluehost.com) (66.147.244.61) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2012 18:29:46 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=80386.org; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject; bh=D+45TcQQE07RBWO/AObuXor2qGtvOWU3PvpUr/11Cpw=; b=YeVvpRZj+Lrm6bskBeh4RASDbGZ1B/0EdKWm/7ZJO5bkOfqqAPQcgU5pWZIgSM+OOZxCS+u06m863jOMq+Y/xsAL7NYviv0/Vz/WIhF6wpXFtPJ6pwk0HoDatV/2Ruv2; Received: from [117.194.36.158] (port=53881 helo=[192.168.1.4]) by box761.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SdmtV-0001yi-Ik; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:29:46 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Subhro Sankha Kar In-Reply-To: <4FD4CD49.40605@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:59:41 +0530 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <561C693C-E951-4A55-AAB1-82510307AA61@80386.org> References: <4FD4CD49.40605@dreamchaser.org> To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Identified-User: {1190:box761.bluehost.com:pixelpa2:80386.org} {sentby:smtp auth 117.194.36.158 authed with subhro@80386.org} Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: ports: make config-recursive doesn't really X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:29:46 -0000 You can have a look at port-mgmt/portmaster. Thanks Subhro -- Subhro Sankha Kar System Administrator Working and Playing with FreeBSD since 2002 On 10-Jun-2012, at 10:07 PM, Gary Aitken wrote: > I'm trying to build a script to rebuild and reinstall everything I = have installed from ports. I don't want to have to keep checking on it = and filling out the appropriate check boxes for options. I naively = assumed: >=20 > for port in $ports > do > cd /usr/port/$port > make config-recursive > cd ../.. > done >=20 > would allow me to set up all the dependencies before continuing with = the install. >=20 > It appears, however, that it doesn't really recurse properly. I say = "appears" only because this is my first time trying this and despite = doing the above setting of options, I am confronted with additional = options screens as the build progresses. >=20 > Is there a way to get around this? >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Gary > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 19:28:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235E8106564A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 19:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reinhard.haller@interactive-net.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E218FC0C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 19:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from interactive.dnsalias.net (p5B343347.dip.t-dialin.net [91.52.51.71]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M1TXJ-1RpHYL0h0T-00tKUz; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:28:04 +0200 Received: from scalix.interactive.de ([fd08:e8a3:4825:0:20c:29ff:fe8e:3748]) by interactive.dnsalias.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Sdnnv-000IHF-EE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:28:03 +0200 Received: from scalix.interactive.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by scalix.interactive.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q5AJSatf028556 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:28:36 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.178] (Core2Duo.interactive.de [192.168.0.178]) by scalix.interactive.de (Scalix SMTP Relay 11.4.5.13150) via ESMTP; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:28:35 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:28:02 +0200 From: Reinhard Haller To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4FD4F542.8030903@interactive-net.de> x-scalix-Hops: 1 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition: inline X-ACL-rcpt: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-ACL-Send: reinhard.haller@interactive-net.de X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:iin2hE01xL4jW2rsCZsoRitQ9hDcjtGCoZiiIRZs0fB n4ASRNMnrK5RJTxwiu9PL6yN0Fx980VtFaumjgGlvbV6/FbFFy /2U8h5zpeOpAQ29hoM5bGePyUmeBkTVhRQNN4nCd5cWWeZq2h/ hWJmIfPlVJgvKwvZMOwCuqOw+IO+WqCdRitqEKlJrjEGcXxFOP 5BJ/QdxV0lP4l8ZTyQvcq96l4dl7tVpSN5bFfrNiYTDOMvR1Nz FdMWXDy3CqPO+h3Dd5sN6DE750+6bwrErmqZXZFVvO5iV73RgM KBwu97BfNa5A2Pa8Cugsc1Gkf6aBra4KqY1y754ZDKlUS0wKD0 Z4/Ks0fy+IoBKU/eNePNKhGiyfn85kqul9iVFLgrXY+v7DkGle bPMzCk+kZZJNg== Subject: nanobsd on usb-stick X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 19:28:11 -0000 Hi, I'm struggling with nanobsd (9.0). Tried with cd-rom (error 19). The USB-Config (UsbDevice Generic 8000) with NANO_DRIVE=da0 contains no real image and dd if=...disk.full of=/dev/da0 bs=64k woks but is not mountable after writing. Is there any current and complete documentation how to use an usb-stick with nanobsd? Thanks Reinhard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 20:06:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD91106564A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:06:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381118FC0C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:06:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBEB3A.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.235.58]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q5AK6kBN017726 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:06:47 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5AK6WTd033261 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:06:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5AK6Qts083905 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:06:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201206102006.q5AK6Qts083905@fire.js.berklix.net> To: FreeBSD From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:09:17 +0200." Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:06:26 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:06:54 -0000 Too much hot air & preaching to the choir is counter productive & would die away after internal argument. Better be active Externaly. Defend our future by alerting governments there is an upcoming issue. (eg EU has mega fined MS before for monopoly abuse, EU etc could warn off MS if we alert governments there's something to monitor). Free source OSs, ie inc *BSD & *Linux etc, need to co-ordinate with eg - A few short anodyne sentences summarising the MS Win8 UEFI problem, (better too little text than too much, to reduce work, avoid risk of discredit from getting anything wrong). - List of links to specification & analysis & discussion forums. - List of contacts to alert: politicians & officials responsible for anti monopoly & anti restraint of trade policing. - List of volunteers: people in each OS project to contact governments. - A brief simple sample letter to send to alert politicians & officials (maybe via paper post or phone, not email to spam box ;-) As a start here's : http://berklix.org/uefi/ URLs welcome. Contact names welcome. Volunteers welcome. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 20:12:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0353106564A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9806B8FC15 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:12:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q5AKCO59027201 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 14:12:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FD4FFA8.4000007@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 14:12:24 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120609 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FD4CF8F.3030701@dreamchaser.org> <4FD4D317.3020503@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 10 Jun 2012 14:12:25 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [solved] Re: fn going to X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:12:26 -0000 ah... Thanks both Warren and Lars >>> What's the trick to allow fn to still be used to switch vtys when running X? >>> At first I thought it was the wm grabbing it, but I've disabled that and now it goes to whatever app has the focus. Seems like something in the kernel has to grab it before it gets passed on to X. >> >> I see it's fn when in X. >> >> However, once out of X on another vty, switching to the vty where X was >> started does not get me back to X. How do I get back to the X display >> which is running? > > Oh, you have to swith to the vtty where X is running, which certainly is NOT > where you started X. > > Look in /etc/ttys for a line like this: > > ttyvb "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm off secure > > The above is not standard on installation, so probably the > 'ttyv?' is different. The ? is the ttyv number (in hex) where > your X should be running - BUT the hex number start at 0 (zero) > while your F keys start with 1. For example, the above says X should run in > ttyv b = 11 decimal, but that is associated with F12 (so that F1 can be > mapped to ttyv0). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 20:30:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496C5106564A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:30:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech.junk@myfairpoint.net) Received: from mail11c26.carrierzone.com (mail11c26-2170.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E978FC15 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:30:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Authenticated-User: tech.junk.myfairpoint.net Received: from tardis.cinnet (pool-72-71-207-111.cncdnh.fast03.myfairpoint.net [72.71.207.111]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail11c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q5AKE8dc029694 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:14:12 GMT Message-ID: <4FD50011.6090703@myfairpoint.net> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:14:09 -0400 From: sean User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120609 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=1.1 cv=ThiTb2R4C3hXbzvdGa9umCKUoSpBsmZF9wVprkK1otM= c=1 sm=1 a=bWM0XrDEnZQA:10 a=YamaJ3vGr5cA:10 a=qiV6Z9L8f1sA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=vvY+s4Ie4P/yjojtf61xAA==:17 a=kc5DiE_FqAZ_sA5jlyYA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=vvY+s4Ie4P/yjojtf61xAA==:117 X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020203.4FD50017.001B, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Firefox Script Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tech.junk@myfairpoint.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:30:29 -0000 Hello All, I just upgraded Firefox to the latest available in ports. Since this upgrade Firefox is near unresponsive. Messages keep popping up about unresponsive script errors on the page being viewed. Would anyone have any ideas on how to best approach this problem to find the fix? Thanks in advance, Sean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 20:40:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448941065672 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:40:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC7C8FC0A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q5AKeLsk015879; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:40:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4FD505DD.2020007@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:38:53 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120411 Thunderbird/10.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Aitken References: <4FD4CF8F.3030701@dreamchaser.org> <4FD4D317.3020503@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: <4FD4D317.3020503@dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fn going to X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:40:40 -0000 2012-06-10 19:02, Gary Aitken skrev: > On 06/10/12 10:47, Gary Aitken wrote: >> What's the trick to allowfn to still be used to switch vtys when running X? >> At first I thought it was the wm grabbing it, but I've disabled that and now it goes to whatever app has the focus. Seems like something in the kernel has to grab it before it gets passed on to X. > > I see it'sfn when in X. > > However, once out of X on another vty, switching to the vty where X was started does not get me back to X. How do I get back to the X display which is running? 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x42sm48131041yhd.3.2012.06.10.13.56.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3W9V5s4QQNz2CG46 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:56:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:56:49 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120610165649.3408f6ad@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <201206102006.q5AK6Qts083905@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <201206102006.q5AK6Qts083905@fire.js.berklix.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkXh3diN+rr5AWooXc/nzdJ/wYaWIZrtMKFAN93IFor1E+g1/5sk7KufFEvPfdw3scUl2O5 Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:56:53 -0000 On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:06:26 +0200 Julian H. Stacey articulated: >Too much hot air & preaching to the choir is counter productive >& would die away after internal argument. Better be active Externaly. >Defend our future by alerting governments there is an upcoming issue. >(eg EU has mega fined MS before for monopoly abuse, EU etc could warn >off MS if we alert governments there's something to monitor). > >Free source OSs, ie inc *BSD & *Linux etc, need to co-ordinate with eg > - A few short anodyne sentences summarising the MS Win8 UEFI > problem, (better too little text than too much, to reduce work, > avoid risk of discredit from getting anything wrong). > - List of links to specification & analysis & discussion forums. > - List of contacts to alert: politicians & officials responsible > for anti monopoly & anti restraint of trade policing. > - List of volunteers: people in each OS project to contact > governments. > - A brief simple sample letter to send to alert politicians & > officials (maybe via paper post or phone, not email to spam > box ;-) > >As a start here's : http://berklix.org/uefi/ > >URLs welcome. Contact names welcome. Volunteers welcome. It is posts like this that basically turn my stomach. A product, any product, should succeed or fail based on its own merits and not because some government agency aided or thwarted it. Most, it not nearly all PC manufacturers exist solely because of Microsoft. The PC market balloons every time Microsoft releases a new version of Windows. Seriously now, how many PC were sold because FreeBSD released version 9 of its OS? If you want to beat someone, you make a better product. You don't go running to your mamma asking for protection. That stinks of socialism/fascism. The UEFI specification has existed for years. Supposedly, Linux has been capable of using it for 8+ years. I have no idea if FreeBSD is even capable of handling it. It wouldn't surprise me it if couldn't though. What this really tells me is that there has been way to much procrastination by the FOSS. Microsoft simply took advantage of an existing standard (remember "standards" something the FOSS is always crying about) and now FOSS is begging for mercy. This is more than just slightly funny, it is pathetic. If 1% of the effort of spreading this BS over UEFI had gone into working on a solution for UEFI two years ago, we wouldn't be having this discussion at all. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 21:39:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5CB41065675 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:39:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10618FC21 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sdpqb-0003KV-Dt for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:38:57 +0200 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:38:56 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:38:56 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:38:43 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 14 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:13.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/13.0) Subject: xfce 4.10 update problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:39:07 -0000 Hi, after portmaster update: - there are missing icons in main menu and that of Terminal - startx fails when moused enabled (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psm0 Device busy. (EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot open input device (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "PS/2 Mouse" (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) xinit: connection to X server lost Any known solutions ? jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 22:08:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4523C106566B for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:08:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C574C8FC08 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so2102802wer.13 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:08:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ssvioCPVN/FrlQ+q+Tu6aDipX+Eb/zZC/4sEU5IiEBE=; b=HQU/pTT21Le2L/SRAsmFD9dMu7BRfqdBpkm+E9ctz0nGUs+Stn9EYXYDZYiWtNVB7M x9HHqr4zQdqDldqRyE+YlKQyhokzTbSG7WZ+6htrcbWVoR1Ghq6rChHBywCifbeojG26 biyHUaRNf61CsTA6EdySu/jJFRbtKNYHFLRHOl0/YrDNQps2Kk+M1iX/eD/wh5il2Hog cIB7+i21XvsUZiSJ8oQt2htgB9yDOVlZwdY7p0ewKBTS/fviI2f59CBnWtaGGzYMu4Ny 2hcbiiPqLURuXpTTPKuROW9KN2Z6/I+gt4xjj0gDl7XmXAIVnSEGQyVllZZ9u+CLYqoS 7imw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.82.195 with SMTP id k3mr15830041wiy.9.1339366120672; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.160.67 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:08:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201206102057.q5AKusWM087244@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <201206102057.q5AKusWM087244@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:08:40 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: USB 3.0 delay in 'detecting' attached drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:08:42 -0000 On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Waitman Gobble wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a new machine with 2 USB 3.0 ports and 2 USB 2.0 ports. When I > plug > > a USB 3.0 drive / cable into the USB 3.0 port it takes about 70 seconds > for > > the drive to show up, on the USB 2.0 port it's instantly. I haven't used > > USB 3.0 with FreeBSD so I'm not sure if this is expected or maybe I need > to > > reconfigure something or look at a different kernel config. > > Might be a marginal power issue. > USB 3 devices are allowed to consume 1.0 Amps. > USB2 ports only need provide 0.5. > > I have a tower wont recognise my USB disc on its USB2 ports. > On my new PCI express card in same tower, it comes up quickly. > > Cheers, > Julian > -- > Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich > http://berklix.com > Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". > Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, > quoted-printable. > Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ > Thanks. Not sure if there's anything I can do about that. It's a new HP dv6 laptop which according to box was mfg in May 2012... I would assume hardware would be designed and put together properly. :) Waitman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 22:15:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFFF1065754 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:14:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BDB8FC18 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0E25081F; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:14:57 -0700 (PDT) To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:14:57 -0700 Message-ID: <48302.1339366497@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:15:13 -0000 In message , Warren Block wrote: >On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: >> 1) In your example under the heading "Copying Filesystems", the second >> shell command line shown is: >> >> dump -C16 -b64 -0uanL -h0 -f - /usr | (cd /mnt && restore -ruf -) >> >> Is that correct? Shouldn't it actually be this instead? >> >> dump -C16 -b64 -0uanL -h0 -f - /usr | (cd /mnt/usr && restore -ruf -) >>... >The mount command above that is > > mount /dev/da0s1f /mnt Ah! OK. I failed to notice that. Yes, that clarifies things entirely. >> ... I mean if I do the pipeline from dump >> to restore as you have shown in your examples in your "Copying Filesystems" >> section, then what must I do in order prevent dump from dumping files that >> haven't changed? (And likewise, how do I prevent restore from trying to >> restore files under /mnt/usr that have not changed? Or is that answer to >> that question that I simply have to do the first thing, i.e. force dump >> not to dump any of the unchanged files?) > >See the dump man page about dump levels. OK, I'm looking at it, and to be honest, the subject of dump levels is not covered at all well there. (Neither does it seem to be covered well in other online documents, found via Google, that purport to describe dump & restore.) The reference to "modified Tower of Hanoi algorithm" and the subsequent suggested dumplevel sequence are especially opaque and perplexing. Well, nevermind about that. I get the general idea, i.e. that dumping at level N causes dumping of everything that has changed since the last dump at level N-1. What I don't understand (and what I wish someone would enlighten me about) is just this: It would seem that in order to implement these dump levels, dump must be keeping a record somewhere, for each file in the filesystem, of the level at which that file was last dumped. But where is this infor- mation stored, exactly?? I won't be able to sleep until I know. (Aside: One of the reasons I hate Windoze is that everything is hidden. One of the reasons I love UNIX is that everything is out in the open, which is to say "documented". But even after reading the dump(1) man page, it ain't in the least bit obvious to me where dump is recording the last dump level for each node in the filesystem. This info must be stored SOMEWHERE. But where?) >I have not tried a dump level >higher than zero with a dump|restore copy, but expect it to work. > >rsync will do it, and would be my choice for that; start with -aH for >options, and --exclude might be used for some directories that don't >need to be copied. Humm... well, I am reminded of all of the reasons why I have been convinced (now) to use dump/restore, specifically the security of knowing that _all_ info will be copied across, in particular (a) extra mode bits/flags and (b) ACLs and (c) file attributes. (This is not to even mention correct handling of other obscure filesystem things like, e.g. sparse files.) So the obvious question is: If I am going to use rsync to keep my backup disk up-to-date, does rsync handle all of these additional small but important filesystem details properly too? If not, then I had best just stick with dump/restore, and use the dumplevels. >Also see the sysutils/rsnapshot port for an interesting snapshot use. >Combined with a bootable FreeBSD like mfsBSD (http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/), >that might be a workable alternative to creating a bootable backup. Thanks. I've installed that port and I am looking at the man page, but I believe that I do still want to reach my goal of just having a (recovery) hard disk that I can just boot directly from. >> 3) Assuming that I have a second disk to which I plan (now) to use >> dump&restore to make periodic copies of all of my ``normal'' (non-backup) >> filesystems onto. Assuming also that I've already installed the FreeBSD >> boot loader into the boot block on this second disk, and that I've already >> run fdisk & bsdlabel on it so as to set up all of the partitioning to be >> essentially identical to my ``main'' system disk. Assuming that all of >> this is the case, by using dump&restore as you have shown in your document >> under the heading "Copying Filesystems", will I have succeded at doing what >> I was first asking about in this thread, i.e. will I have successfully >> created a _bootable_ mirror of my main system disk... > >With some tuning, yes. /etc/fstab mountpoints often won't match when >such a drive is connected to a different port or new system. Right. There's that. So I will need to diddle the /etc/fstab in the backup. >Use gpart(8) GPT labels... Ummm... I don't know pooh about this, but I am reading about it now, and the idea make me _very_ nervous. Apparently, `MBR' is traditional, and I am very much of a traditionalist. (Mostly I find that I only get into trouble when I try to buck pre-existing conventions.) >or tunefs(8) filesystem labels. I guess you must mean the "-L volname" option. I'm not at all sure that I see how that would help anything. >Likewise with the >Ethernet board, so see rc.conf(5) about ifconfig_DEFAULT. Something else (the Handbook?) mentioned something about the ethernet card(s) in the context also. I just don't get it. Why would I even need to think about that in this context? My current system disk is alive & well and already has all of the proper ifconfig stuff in /etc/rc.conf to make the local ethernet card work properly on my network. I am engaged in making a _verbatim_ backup of my main system disk to another hard disk that, in an emergency, would be plugged in to the exact same system (with the exact same ethernet card) and if I have made the verbatim backup properly, then it also will have the proper stuff in _its_ /etc/rc.conf file to make that same ethernet card work. So what exacty is the issue? I don't get it. >gpart and GPT are easier than fdisk and bsdlabel. For you maybe. I'm ignorant. I only have experience with fdisk & bsdlabel. (But at your prompting I will try to educate myself on the alternatives.) >I really need to flip >that disk setup article upside down, with gpart first as the new goodness. See above. me personally? I am very much a fan of doing things the old & traditional way, unless there is something compelling that makes me "upgrade". Regards, rfg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 22:24:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56604106566C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:24:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347E68FC0C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:24:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A335081F; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:23:59 -0700 (PDT) To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:23:59 -0700 Message-ID: <48774.1339367039@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:24:00 -0000 Warren? Just a couple more quick questions. You recommend: >> dump -C16 -b64 -0uanL -h0 -f - /usr | (cd /mnt && restore -ruf -) I'm real curious about you suggestions for the -C and -b values. I have what amounts to a personal workstation. Yea, OK, it is running mail, web, and FTP servers also, but fundementailly, it is not that busy most of the time. And it's got 4GB of main installed. On average, I suspect that I ain't even using half of that. Given all that, why shouldn't I specify (e.g.): -C512 -b1024 ? Wouldn't that all make the dump go faster? Remember, I'm just gonna do like in your examples and pipe the output of dump to restore, so whereas if I was going to tape (or even to a .dump disk file), -b1024 would be rather wasteful, in my case all I am wasting is a bit of kernel time (for a bit more stuff being passed through the pipe). Regards, rfg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 23:05:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561CF106564A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:05:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6E18FC08 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5AN5SbS078742; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:05:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5AN5SaM078739; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:05:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:05:28 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" In-Reply-To: <48302.1339366497@tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: References: <48302.1339366497@tristatelogic.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:05:28 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:05:29 -0000 On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > In message , > Warren Block wrote: > >> On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: >>> 1) In your example under the heading "Copying Filesystems", the second >>> shell command line shown is: >>> >>> dump -C16 -b64 -0uanL -h0 -f - /usr | (cd /mnt && restore -ruf -) >>> >>> Is that correct? Shouldn't it actually be this instead? >>> >>> dump -C16 -b64 -0uanL -h0 -f - /usr | (cd /mnt/usr && restore -ruf -) >>> ... >> The mount command above that is >> >> mount /dev/da0s1f /mnt > > Ah! OK. I failed to notice that. Yes, that clarifies things entirely. > >>> ... I mean if I do the pipeline from dump >>> to restore as you have shown in your examples in your "Copying Filesystems" >>> section, then what must I do in order prevent dump from dumping files that >>> haven't changed? (And likewise, how do I prevent restore from trying to >>> restore files under /mnt/usr that have not changed? Or is that answer to >>> that question that I simply have to do the first thing, i.e. force dump >>> not to dump any of the unchanged files?) >> >> See the dump man page about dump levels. > > OK, I'm looking at it, and to be honest, the subject of dump levels is > not covered at all well there. (Neither does it seem to be covered well > in other online documents, found via Google, that purport to describe > dump & restore.) The reference to "modified Tower of Hanoi algorithm" > and the subsequent suggested dumplevel sequence are especially opaque > and perplexing. It's diffs. One complete copy to start, then a partial dump, just the files that have changed since the first. And then another partial, just the files that have changed since the second. Start over with a full dump every so often, because that reduces the amount of backups that have to be restored until you get to the final version of the file. As far as I can recall, I've always used level zero. > What I don't understand (and what I wish someone would enlighten me about) > is just this: It would seem that in order to implement these dump levels, > dump must be keeping a record somewhere, for each file in the filesystem, > of the level at which that file was last dumped. But where is this infor- > mation stored, exactly?? I won't be able to sleep until I know. > > (Aside: One of the reasons I hate Windoze is that everything is hidden. > One of the reasons I love UNIX is that everything is out in the open, > which is to say "documented". But even after reading the dump(1) man > page, it ain't in the least bit obvious to me where dump is recording > the last dump level for each node in the filesystem. This info must be > stored SOMEWHERE. But where?) Sorry, I've never checked. File dates, maybe. The source for dump would be the place to look. >> rsync will do it, and would be my choice for that; start with -aH for >> options, and --exclude might be used for some directories that don't >> need to be copied. > > Humm... well, I am reminded of all of the reasons why I have been convinced > (now) to use dump/restore, specifically the security of knowing that _all_ > info will be copied across, in particular (a) extra mode bits/flags and (b) > ACLs and (c) file attributes. (This is not to even mention correct handling > of other obscure filesystem things like, e.g. sparse files.) > > So the obvious question is: If I am going to use rsync to keep my backup > disk up-to-date, does rsync handle all of these additional small but > important filesystem details properly too? If not, then I had best just > stick with dump/restore, and use the dumplevels. It does many of those things, enough that many people use it for backup. > Right. There's that. So I will need to diddle the /etc/fstab in the backup. > >> Use gpart(8) GPT labels... > > Ummm... I don't know pooh about this, but I am reading about it now, and > the idea make me _very_ nervous. Apparently, `MBR' is traditional, and > I am very much of a traditionalist. (Mostly I find that I only get into > trouble when I try to buck pre-existing conventions.) > >> or tunefs(8) filesystem labels. > > I guess you must mean the "-L volname" option. I'm not at all sure that I > see how that would help anything. When a mountpoint is /dev/gpt/myrootfs, it doesn't matter whether the drive shows up as ada0 or ad4 or da2, the mount still works. >> Likewise with the >> Ethernet board, so see rc.conf(5) about ifconfig_DEFAULT. > > Something else (the Handbook?) mentioned something about the ethernet card(s) > in the context also. I just don't get it. Why would I even need to think > about that in this context? My current system disk is alive & well and > already has all of the proper ifconfig stuff in /etc/rc.conf to make the > local ethernet card work properly on my network. I am engaged in making a > _verbatim_ backup of my main system disk to another hard disk that, in > an emergency, would be plugged in to the exact same system (with the exact > same ethernet card) and if I have made the verbatim backup properly, then > it also will have the proper stuff in _its_ /etc/rc.conf file to make that > same ethernet card work. So what exacty is the issue? I don't get it. Lightning strikes the machine and only the backup disk is available. Labels and a generic ifconfig let that disk boot and work on a different system. Those details can make recovery significantly easier. Of course, the more we talk about this, the more it sounds like you might as well just create a mirror and let the system do all the duplication in real time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 23:10:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E72F106566C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C8E8FC0C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:10:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nber6 (nber6.nber.org [66.251.72.76]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5ANAZTm097457; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 19:10:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 19:03:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg X-X-Sender: feenberg@nber6 To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" In-Reply-To: <48302.1339366497@tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: References: <48302.1339366497@tristatelogic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20120610 #8172196, check: 20120610 clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:10:45 -0000 On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > > What I don't understand (and what I wish someone would enlighten me about) > is just this: It would seem that in order to implement these dump levels, > dump must be keeping a record somewhere, for each file in the filesystem, > of the level at which that file was last dumped. But where is this infor- > mation stored, exactly?? I won't be able to sleep until I know. > Only the dates of the levels of backup are stored, in /etc/dumpdates. Then the fact that a file has been dumped is inferred by comparing the file's last mod date with the dates in /etc/dumpdates. See the -T and -u options of the dump man page where this is implied but perhaps not actually stated. It does occur to me that /etc is not a felicitous place to keep this information, but given the desirability of dumping filesystems in read only state, placing the dump dates in the filesystem itself isn't feasible. daniel feenberg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 23:23:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9E5106566C for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:23:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365A48FC12 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:23:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q5ANNghc005925; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:23:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:23:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201206102323.q5ANNghc005925@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: rfg@tristatelogic.com In-Reply-To: <48302.1339366497@tristatelogic.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:23:06 -0000 "Ronald F. Guilmette" wrote: > Warren Block wrote: > >On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > >> ... I mean if I do the pipeline from dump > >> to restore as you have shown in your examples in your "Copying Filesystems" > >> section, then what must I do in order prevent dump from dumping files that > >> haven't changed? (And likewise, how do I prevent restore from trying to > >> restore files under /mnt/usr that have not changed? Or is that answer to > >> that question that I simply have to do the first thing, i.e. force dump > >> not to dump any of the unchanged files?) > > > >See the dump man page about dump levels. > > OK, I'm looking at it, and to be honest, the subject of dump levels is > not covered at all well there. (Neither does it seem to be covered well > in other online documents, found via Google, that purport to describe > dump & restore.) The reference to "modified Tower of Hanoi algorithm" > and the subsequent suggested dumplevel sequence are especially opaque > and perplexing. > > Well, nevermind about that. I get the general idea, i.e. that dumping > at level N causes dumping of everything that has changed since the last > dump at level N-1. That's about all -really- need to know. The sequencing stuff is just a recommendation on a way to do multiple levels of incremental backups. > What I don't understand (and what I wish someone would enlighten me about) > is just this: It would seem that in order to implement these dump levels, > dump must be keeping a record somewhere, for each file in the filesystem, > of the level at which that file was last dumped. But where is this infor- > mation stored, exactly?? I won't be able to sleep until I know. First, your assumption is incorrect. *grin* All that dump stores is the timestamp of the completion of the last dump at each level. As for "where" that information is stored. RTFM applies. the 'files' section. By default '/etc/dumpdates', but modifiable by the -D option. > (Aside: One of the reasons I hate Windoze is that everything is hidden. > One of the reasons I love UNIX is that everything is out in the open, > which is to say "documented". But even after reading the dump(1) man > page, it ain't in the least bit obvious to me where dump is recording > the last dump level for each node in the filesystem. This info must be > stored SOMEWHERE. But where?) Wrong assumptions lead to looking for the wrong things. Why store the date for every node, when storing the date of the dump sufficies? (assuming you're consisently using the same dump command for dumps recorded to the same 'dumpfile', that is, and using different dumpfiles for different 'selective' dump commands) _Anything_ modified after the last dump at the next lower level needs to be saved as part of -this- dump, unless it is 'excluded' from this dump. A level 0 dump backs up 'everything', except things which are expliclitly excluded. A level 1 dump backs up 'everything that has changed since the last level 0 dump' (whether or not it was inclued in the level 0 dump), except for things which are eplicitly excluded. A subsequent level 1 dump catches everything since the last level _0_ dump. A level 2 dump backs up 'everything that has changed since the last level 1 dump' (whether or not it was inclued in the level 1 dump, or level 0 dump), except for things which are eplicitly excluded. A level 3 dump backs up 'everything that has changed since the last level 2 dump' (whether or not it was inclued in the level 2, 1, or 0 dump), except for things which are eplicitly excluded. A subsequent level 2 dump catches everything since the last level _1_ dump. Another level 1 dump -here- catches everything singe the prior level 0 dump. and kills the record of any level 2 (or higher) dump. A level 3 dump here -- with dump anything since the level 1 dump (since there was no 'current' level 2 dump). > So the obvious question is: If I am going to use rsync to keep my backup > disk up-to-date, does rsync handle all of these additional small but > important filesystem details properly too? If not, then I had best just > stick with dump/restore, and use the dumplevels. It doesn't matter what anybody tells you. what matters is what the machine does. Thus the authoritative response is "try it and find out." > >> I was first asking about in this thread, i.e. will I have successfully > >> created a _bootable_ mirror of my main system disk... > > > >With some tuning, yes. /etc/fstab mountpoints often won't match when > >such a drive is connected to a different port or new system. > > Right. There's that. So I will need to diddle the /etc/fstab in the backup. 'dump'/'restore' doesn't do -everything- necessary. You have to: set up slices/partitions as needed. 'label' as appropriate INSTALL BOOT BLOCKS 'newfs' the appropriate filesystems then dump/restore the filesystems on the disk. > >Likewise with the > >Ethernet board, so see rc.conf(5) about ifconfig_DEFAULT. > > Something else (the Handbook?) mentioned something about the ethernet card(s) > in the context also. I just don't get it. Why would I even need to think > about that in this context? My current system disk is alive & well and > already has all of the proper ifconfig stuff in /etc/rc.conf to make the > local ethernet card work properly on my network. I am engaged in making a > _verbatim_ backup of my main system disk to another hard disk that, in > an emergency, would be plugged in to the exact same system (with the exact > same ethernet card) and if I have made the verbatim backup properly, then > it also will have the proper stuff in _its_ /etc/rc.conf file to make that > same ethernet card work. So what exacty is the issue? I don't get it. It is an issue _only_ if you're dropping the 'cloned' drive into =another= machine. It will come up configured with the same hostname, IP address/ netmask, etc. as the 'donor' machine. If it's only use is as a backup to replace a failed original, don't worry about it. This logic applies to /etc/fstab, too. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 23:41:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D62106564A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:41:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7967F8FC19 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:41:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBD189.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.209.137]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q5ANf29q019084 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:41:03 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5ANenet034369 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 01:40:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5ANehkI088444 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 01:40:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201206102340.q5ANehkI088444@fire.js.berklix.net> To: FreeBSD From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:56:49 EDT." <20120610165649.3408f6ad@scorpio> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 01:40:43 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:41:06 -0000 Jerry wrote > It is posts like this that basically turn my stomach Never argue with a drunk. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 00:00:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8D0106564A for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:00:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF67A8FC12 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBD189.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.209.137]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q5B00AVR019200; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:00:11 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5ANxxEb034421; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 01:59:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5ANxkF1088638; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 01:59:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201206102359.q5ANxkF1088638@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Waitman Gobble From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:08:40 PDT." Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 01:59:46 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB 3.0 delay in 'detecting' attached drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:00:14 -0000 Waitman Gobble wrote: > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > Waitman Gobble wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have a new machine with 2 USB 3.0 ports and 2 USB 2.0 ports. When I > > plug > > > a USB 3.0 drive / cable into the USB 3.0 port it takes about 70 seconds > > for > > > the drive to show up, on the USB 2.0 port it's instantly. I haven't used > > > USB 3.0 with FreeBSD so I'm not sure if this is expected or maybe I need > > to > > > reconfigure something or look at a different kernel config. > > > > Might be a marginal power issue. > > USB 3 devices are allowed to consume 1.0 Amps. > > USB2 ports only need provide 0.5. > > > > I have a tower wont recognise my USB disc on its USB2 ports. > > On my new PCI express card in same tower, it comes up quickly. > > > > Cheers, > > Julian > Thanks. > > Not sure if there's anything I can do about that. It's a new HP dv6 laptop > which according to box was mfg in May 2012... I would assume hardware would > be designed and put together properly. :) Sounds new enough :-) My USB3 disc on my newish laptop with USB 2 socket & 8.2 & 9.0 come up fast enough, not noticed problems, not specificaly timed it though. Try external power if you have a socket on disk box ? Try disk on another known good FreeBSD USB3 card on a tower (my card cost 30 Euro BTW) Or try a power doubler cable (connected via a female to female adapter, which Ive never seen on sale, I made my own by cutting up a dead mainboard), to the USB 3 male to male cable. (for any who dont know, cant omit that cable as USB3 socket on lapop size drives is a different shape, flater, wider. I wonder if it might be taking time dropping back to USB2 speed. if eg you don't have xhci in kernel ? I have all of config -x/boot/kernel/kernel | grep hci device uhci device ohci device xhci device ehci I just havent taken some out yet. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 00:12:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85DF0106567A for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:12:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431D38FC15 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:12:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5B0CBeF078967; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:12:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5B0CBHu078964; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:12:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:12:11 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: jb In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:12:11 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xfce 4.10 update problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:12:12 -0000 On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, jb wrote: > Hi, > after portmaster update: > - there are missing icons in main menu and that of Terminal > - startx fails when moused enabled > (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psm0 > Device busy. > (EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot open input device > (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "PS/2 Mouse" > (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) > xinit: connection to X server lost > > Any known solutions ? Disable hal in xorg.conf, ServerLayout section: Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 00:14:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AEC106567C for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:14:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weif@weif.net) Received: from maxwell.cjones.org (mail.cjones.org [69.146.226.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE6B8FC15 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:14:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by maxwell.cjones.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id D5357682B8; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:04:20 -0600 (MDT) From: Keith Seyffarth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:04:20 -0600 Message-ID: <84sje2zpbv.fsf@maxwell.cjones.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Chromium 19 core dumps on launch... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: weif@weif.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:14:06 -0000 Friday I installed Chromium again because it would be nice to have a browser to test in other than Firefox and Opera. It was installed using portinstall -R chromium, which *appeared* to function properly. However, trying to run chrome results in: pid 50993 (chrome), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) >From what I found online, it looked like I may have been encountering an issue with devel/google-perftools, but on reinstall was able to confirm that this is building with gcc not clang. I have also removed my ~/.config/chromium directory with no change in behavior. Not sure if it's relevant, but the last version of Chromium that was *functional* for me was 12. Versions 13-16 didn't support loading web pages (the browser would launch, but if I entered a URL in the address bar, I could leave the browser running overnight and it still wouldn't have started loading a page). Then when 17 and 18 wouldn't even compile (marked ignore), I just removed package. Looking for suggestions on getting Chromium to at least launch... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 00:15:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5C81065672 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:15:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86F78FC17 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:15:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 10 Jun 2012 20:15:52 -0400 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BNM27356; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:15:52 -0400 Received: from 209-6-86-84.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.86.84]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 10 Jun 2012 20:15:52 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20437.14520.364554.528919@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:15:52 -0400 To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" In-Reply-To: <48774.1339367039@tristatelogic.com> References: <48774.1339367039@tristatelogic.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:15:54 -0000 Ronald F. Guilmette writes: > Warren? Just a couple more quick questions. You recommend: > > >> dump -C16 -b64 -0uanL -h0 -f - /usr | (cd /mnt && restore -ruf -) > > I'm real curious about you suggestions for the -C and -b values. > > I have what amounts to a personal workstation. Yea, OK, it is running > mail, web, and FTP servers also, but fundementailly, it is not that busy > most of the time. And it's got 4GB of main installed. On average, I > suspect that I ain't even using half of that. > > Given all that, why shouldn't I specify (e.g.): -C512 -b1024 ? > > Wouldn't that all make the dump go faster? There are many possible obstacles to faster dump speed; enumerating them is left as an exercise for the reader. As it happens, I have a set-up very similar to what you describe ... except with 8g of memory. A few years ago I did some testing with various cache sizes (as part of diagnosing other problems) and ended up with C=32. (I should probably run the tests again, given some hardware changes since.) That machine's level 0 runs tonight; I will try to remember to (retain and) post the results. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 00:36:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DB5106566C for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:36:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F158FC0C for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:36:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5B0aVCo079110; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:36:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5B0aV0P079107; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:36:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:36:31 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <20437.14520.364554.528919@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Message-ID: References: <48774.1339367039@tristatelogic.com> <20437.14520.364554.528919@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:36:31 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:36:33 -0000 On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, Robert Huff wrote: > > Ronald F. Guilmette writes: > >> Warren? Just a couple more quick questions. You recommend: >> >> >> dump -C16 -b64 -0uanL -h0 -f - /usr | (cd /mnt && restore -ruf -) >> >> I'm real curious about you suggestions for the -C and -b values. >> >> I have what amounts to a personal workstation. Yea, OK, it is running >> mail, web, and FTP servers also, but fundementailly, it is not that busy >> most of the time. And it's got 4GB of main installed. On average, I >> suspect that I ain't even using half of that. >> >> Given all that, why shouldn't I specify (e.g.): -C512 -b1024 ? >> >> Wouldn't that all make the dump go faster? > > There are many possible obstacles to faster dump speed; > enumerating them is left as an exercise for the reader. > As it happens, I have a set-up very similar to what you > describe ... except with 8g of memory. A few years ago I did some > testing with various cache sizes (as part of diagnosing other > problems) and ended up with C=32. > (I should probably run the tests again, given some hardware > changes since.) > That machine's level 0 runs tonight; I will try to remember to > (retain and) post the results. -C16 is a little small because it's hard to tell how much memory someone running the example will have. I usually use -C32 on machines with plenty of memory. Remember that dump forks multiple times, so it's not 32M, but N*32M. -b64 is the largest safe buffer size to use. People have experienced problems with larger amounts. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 00:42:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70161106564A for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:42:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1AF8FC12 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:42:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn6 with SMTP id hn6so1915833wib.13 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:42:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+uftLQ9l5+XlMrV0qKbcepDttPeRJtpx4Hzxv+9lfmI=; b=HmRBBi9nQlCb8xsXmhS5r4m157RQb21GR50wl3IJhtTHoJw93QU/JqoBwf5uMkpF96 KfBhu2biPtDVfnvkyLKPqpYkOF6HpZgWyS2SwgHLTrsh4eWcfFz7zbT3Xl82hJQOManE fNAPe+ecjE71hNKh8WCoa6wmE+lgOtstXufc/ts0UCIimfehqJniFt8X7wl6/agJrfck VDl2gSwCkMC0TkgABaCS+/TqDZkA7WlOJJkkqQdXVCD4adswkxuef01KnX61iKVHpy2B l+GPlGXA4R7X5si3f1VPaDIls5SSC+hMRx0x8FJQYhsjr3CFOuxYafaDkj/f1tmeguYj YWYw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.14.193 with SMTP id r1mr16455710wic.13.1339375347939; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.160.67 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:42:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201206102359.q5ANxkF1088638@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <201206102359.q5ANxkF1088638@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:42:27 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: USB 3.0 delay in 'detecting' attached drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:42:29 -0000 On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Waitman Gobble wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Julian H. Stacey > wrote: > > > > > Waitman Gobble wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I have a new machine with 2 USB 3.0 ports and 2 USB 2.0 ports. When I > > > plug > > > > a USB 3.0 drive / cable into the USB 3.0 port it takes about 70 > seconds > > > for > > > > the drive to show up, on the USB 2.0 port it's instantly. I haven't > used > > > > USB 3.0 with FreeBSD so I'm not sure if this is expected or maybe I > need > > > to > > > > reconfigure something or look at a different kernel config. > > > > > > Might be a marginal power issue. > > > USB 3 devices are allowed to consume 1.0 Amps. > > > USB2 ports only need provide 0.5. > > > > > > I have a tower wont recognise my USB disc on its USB2 ports. > > > On my new PCI express card in same tower, it comes up quickly. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Julian > > > Thanks. > > > > Not sure if there's anything I can do about that. It's a new HP dv6 > laptop > > which according to box was mfg in May 2012... I would assume hardware > would > > be designed and put together properly. :) > > Sounds new enough :-) > > My USB3 disc on my newish laptop with USB 2 socket & 8.2 & 9.0 come > up fast enough, not noticed problems, not specificaly timed it though. > > Try external power if you have a socket on disk box ? > > Try disk on another known good FreeBSD USB3 card on a tower (my card cost > 30 Euro BTW) > > Or try a power doubler cable (connected via a female to female > adapter, which Ive never seen on sale, I made my own by cutting up > a dead mainboard), to the USB 3 male to male cable. (for any who > dont know, cant omit that cable as USB3 socket on lapop size drives > is a different shape, flater, wider. > > I wonder if it might be taking time dropping back to USB2 speed. > if eg you don't have xhci in kernel ? > > I have all of > config -x/boot/kernel/kernel | grep hci > device uhci > device ohci > device xhci > device ehci > I just havent taken some out yet. > > Cheers, > Julian > -- > Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich > http://berklix.com > Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". > Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, > quoted-printable. > Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ > I believe it uses ohci for usb 2.0, xhci for 3.0, ehci for 1.0 (which I suppose might be connected to some device internally even if you do not have 1.0 port?) I originally built this system on a different machine, with different hardware, but it really shouldn't make a different AFAIK. ... But I did just csup and rebuild everything on the laptop... i needed to build some devices into the kernel anyhow, and NOW the usb 3.0 connect is instantly, there is now no 70 second delay. I'd have to check, maybe there was a change in xhci between June 2 and today which could have caused the issue. Or it was just a 'weird harold' event, for some reason it just felt like sitting there a minute. Thanks for your help, Waitman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 01:10:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5693106566B for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 01:10:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3264C8FC0A for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 01:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn6 with SMTP id hn6so1925977wib.13 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:10:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=IF4aKjoI0kQ+ZGU6PdmOOjHvrp/LEPjlaBMsfBuhUJU=; b=jeH/r8S9PfdlTxE/mK5m6uaqTmtIWtKq+SOfRbIFyaiIHagrDL0dq1TKuTLANdmPkP vzd/ePLKUyEb5KUIiOf5lamUFA+BAywv3etLGlgX8s67AEGxukf7GTrMhkn3WQGF6HBH QJ3bAy4abGluCnWrnr6a9wUCsa3hdgrH7dmPjfxTdzS5hxL1rDmddG0BDPfln41JmUzx SjZ6q1z8bqlPt5vKnzB1JOR5phCVoDX+rMxdzbH5XcJn8Wmc/CNyFnEJajzeCDW6LuQx YjRos9wKmUqFDTF4hB/ar0HhR/1ezGOV4uXK7k4OhD5kpWpl9g8H0Gh6YRuLpixDkp9W utRA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.131.150 with SMTP id m22mr5112569wei.111.1339377048097; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.160.67 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:10:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:10:48 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: xfce 4.10 update problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 01:10:50 -0000 On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, jb wrote: > > Hi, >> after portmaster update: >> - there are missing icons in main menu and that of Terminal >> - startx fails when moused enabled >> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psm0 >> Device busy. >> (EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot open input device >> (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "PS/2 Mouse" >> (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) >> xinit: connection to X server lost >> >> Any known solutions ? >> > > Disable hal in xorg.conf, ServerLayout section: > > Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" > > ______________________________**_________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** > unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > for missing icons in xfce4.10, here is explanation in a pr with 3 solutions.. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=168688 Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 02:09:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C51C106566B for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 02:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199268FC0C for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 02:09:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-177.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.177]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3513CBF1; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 04:09:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q5B293jV002292; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 04:09:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 04:09:03 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Lars Eighner Message-Id: <20120611040903.62c008a4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4FD4CF8F.3030701@dreamchaser.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gary Aitken , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: fn going to X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 02:09:12 -0000 On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:17:10 -0500 (CDT), Lars Eighner wrote: > But you almost certainly want it loaded automatically (as in the fvwm2 > example above), but how to do this in your particular window manager you > will have to discover from the documentation of your window manger. It's easy loading xmodmap settings prior to the window manager and therefore independent of it, using the X startup file which is ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession (or a "chain loader" of them). [ -f ~/.xmodmaprc ] && xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc # other initialisation ... start fvwn2 However, the default key combination Ctrl+Alt+F should work without alteration in any window manager; at least it does in the few I've tried. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 03:16:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421B4106564A for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 03:16:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bycn82@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB61E8FC0C for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 03:16:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbmv11 with SMTP id v11so2362858vbm.13 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:16:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=6vpthSQN5kf6VvIKDEe/WQrWvkN/szl0uoezJqeGLFI=; b=S6c2pNlZ/0zBHLq7ML/egQFBgorIDhpKB8MvsiGR5MHHWilGN+b9uQGBoxJszznKOB 8Cykeo/OqTA2N+Q0FsWJ6NKMx2gdg7ztZS9loGA22yymga3VmzyJCFmLmr6UY9muOcTx B6YgEbE8XnCWO+7pR1jWkiTDafV4RRoA+iBixQP+76SkoPiVmiHczfK3VvCvLfbZZum8 0knoXbz9YNybAOY1eWbLF2ouHgin9yfYWUkhyylGvnOKg2mFcm5CLE4OjwTPKQdURKEM dDl8B4KIozRNqfqmdXhIvNfhEXY+CYbCxepAKCIL1mTUiyQ9ssCT6sPbYWeGxR1ztMHu cIrg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.65.80 with SMTP id v16mr10139807vds.9.1339384577268; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.214.70 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:16:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120611025332.N46641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20120610120041.4D0F610657C3@hub.freebsd.org> <20120611025332.N46641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:16:17 +0800 Message-ID: From: Bill Yuan To: Ian Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to allow by MAC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 03:16:18 -0000 Hi Lan, Thanks for your reply, I am reading some old emails which you sent in 2008 while other place asked a same question as mine, On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:53 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 418, Issue 18, Message: 1 > On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:43:39 +0800 Bill Yuan wrote: > > > how to allow by MAC in ipfw > > > > currently i set the rule like below > > > > 1 allow ip from any to any MAC any to > > 1 allow ip from any to any MAC any > > 2 deny all from any to any > > > > i want to only allow the mac address to go through the freebsd firewall, > > > > but I found it is not working on my freebsd but it works on pfsense! > > > > so maybe that means the environment is not the same ? and how to setup > the > > ipfw properly to support this ? > > Bill, you did get some good clues in the earlier thread, but it's not > clear if you took note of them. There's also been some confusion .. > > Firstly, read up on layer2 (ethernet, MAC-level) filtering options in > ipfw(8). Thoroughly, several times, until you've got it. Seriously. > > After enabling sysctl net.link.ether.ipfw=1 (add it to /etc/sysctl.conf) > ipfw will be invoked 4 times instead of the normal 2, on every packet. > > Read carefully ipfw(8) section 'PACKET FLOW', and see that only on the > inbound pass invoked from ether_demux() and the outbound pass invoked > from ether_output_frame() can you test for MAC addresses (or mac-types); > the 'normal' layer3 passes examine packets that have no layer2 headers. > > You could just add 'layer2' to any rules filtering on MAC addresses, and > omit MAC addresses from all layer 3 (IP) rules, but I'd recommend using > a method like shown there to separate layer2 and layer3 flows early on: > > # packets from ether_demux > ipfw add 10 skipto 1000 all from any to any layer2 in > # packets from ip_input > ipfw add 10 skipto 2000 all from any to any not layer2 in > # packets from ip_output > ipfw add 10 skipto 3000 all from any to any not layer2 out > # packets from ether_output_frame > ipfw add 10 skipto 4000 all from any to any layer2 out > > So at (eg) 1000 and 4000 place your incoming and outgoing MAC filtering > rules (remembering the reversed order of MAC addresses vs IP addresses, > and to allow broadcasts as well), pass good guys and/or block bad guys, > then deal with your normal IPv4|v6 traffic in a separate section(s). > > Or you could just split the flows into two streams, one for layer2 for > your MAC filtering, the other for layer3, ie the rest of your ruleset. > > HTH, Ian [please cc me on any reply] > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 03:16:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E66106564A for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 03:16:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bycn82@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4570A8FC18 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 03:16:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbmv11 with SMTP id v11so2363055vbm.13 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:16:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Kej7mF8+nIFAZhWfFYdBQwkvLlX0xIf94x4NdAOKlgg=; b=l5tXsPJdGoYkM56V2dAiMwfRNzUiEIKuyKZqGHx3/Qt2hjLmgYeQtMN/HdbWze3/y1 htWIcYmiktKDXEMjxayZUY5wa4J2xK2wB+4Bnt7nWeC6OOPCec2zC+NZK1pbIR+HnyX9 RhymujPAiQOtWXiOfalxQC23sIvtoSqNzutWviiLA3/hjVFcoF2X0F4zX27yqmsOfhBk RVZ+U9tQhrlp57GrKmjhc6BCEqMjRfDZBDJxB46lfR81qfhUV1ys551qREqJwC5S7b6R 83EjvpQ1HjDTHVq/u5NoygrR6//DizGrpvK313PZioFAkuzawhccDQ7zH9SHCJs3QIIg AYsQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.26.240 with SMTP id o16mr9885516vdg.20.1339384616681; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.214.70 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:16:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20120610120041.4D0F610657C3@hub.freebsd.org> <20120611025332.N46641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:16:56 +0800 Message-ID: From: Bill Yuan To: Ian Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to allow by MAC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 03:16:57 -0000 forget to po the link here http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-June/177636.html On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Bill Yuan wrote: > Hi Lan, > > Thanks for your reply, I am reading some old emails which you sent in 2008 > while other place asked a same question as mine, > > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:53 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > >> In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 418, Issue 18, Message: 1 >> On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:43:39 +0800 Bill Yuan wrote: >> >> > how to allow by MAC in ipfw >> > >> > currently i set the rule like below >> > >> > 1 allow ip from any to any MAC any to >> > 1 allow ip from any to any MAC any >> > 2 deny all from any to any >> > >> > i want to only allow the mac address to go through the freebsd >> firewall, >> > >> > but I found it is not working on my freebsd but it works on pfsense! >> > >> > so maybe that means the environment is not the same ? and how to setup >> the >> > ipfw properly to support this ? >> >> Bill, you did get some good clues in the earlier thread, but it's not >> clear if you took note of them. There's also been some confusion .. >> >> Firstly, read up on layer2 (ethernet, MAC-level) filtering options in >> ipfw(8). Thoroughly, several times, until you've got it. Seriously. >> >> After enabling sysctl net.link.ether.ipfw=1 (add it to /etc/sysctl.conf) >> ipfw will be invoked 4 times instead of the normal 2, on every packet. >> >> Read carefully ipfw(8) section 'PACKET FLOW', and see that only on the >> inbound pass invoked from ether_demux() and the outbound pass invoked >> from ether_output_frame() can you test for MAC addresses (or mac-types); >> the 'normal' layer3 passes examine packets that have no layer2 headers. >> >> You could just add 'layer2' to any rules filtering on MAC addresses, and >> omit MAC addresses from all layer 3 (IP) rules, but I'd recommend using >> a method like shown there to separate layer2 and layer3 flows early on: >> >> # packets from ether_demux >> ipfw add 10 skipto 1000 all from any to any layer2 in >> # packets from ip_input >> ipfw add 10 skipto 2000 all from any to any not layer2 in >> # packets from ip_output >> ipfw add 10 skipto 3000 all from any to any not layer2 out >> # packets from ether_output_frame >> ipfw add 10 skipto 4000 all from any to any layer2 out >> >> So at (eg) 1000 and 4000 place your incoming and outgoing MAC filtering >> rules (remembering the reversed order of MAC addresses vs IP addresses, >> and to allow broadcasts as well), pass good guys and/or block bad guys, >> then deal with your normal IPv4|v6 traffic in a separate section(s). >> >> Or you could just split the flows into two streams, one for layer2 for >> your MAC filtering, the other for layer3, ie the rest of your ruleset. >> >> HTH, Ian [please cc me on any reply] >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 03:21:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944E11065670 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 03:21:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B668FC1C for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 03:21:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbon10 with SMTP id n10so3033123lbo.13 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:21:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=TSdPU1PdBBqBsNTeaEVv8A/+J63Y8XyPrzGAWuS3wrI=; b=bYCpCISEaH4Cgw32Gq9aX68+qBduIZqsSnv1RirXU9uAVQo8AV2nQobPC5KYuLTI/Y Oee0cq5sHnoUhKOM7uH48z/CSRf3NtuZwTJ18nD9aoyvGcRHHHtUuB8FWopENPPyyYgA WgdfQF8rMDE+ZI/5gzDfVOoVe3D6UFObuSdzGMKlib1CGh2GU4YxUYPuPkttYdsL0pk5 ydXnJ4JVnu4rkJ5sua4VJliqaiQmXkeZHq5kf4g/qQB9mPmi89JnxcHlv0zpYu0/0O1b UL8NlEfNBEhRclZFvk20HALC+R2PwiL9FEltlat+wTND5s2lEd7kemDtxkisTyun8nXS BWvQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.145.41 with SMTP id sr9mr15748106lab.25.1339384860656; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.13.8 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:21:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [174.254.44.83] Received: by 10.114.13.8 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:21:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20120610120041.4D0F610657C3@hub.freebsd.org> <20120611025332.N46641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:21:00 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Brian W." To: Bill Yuan X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnvcoUny7pzYY8EkzDSN67TQ2Zs7ZXbnSd8i3azfE0eaCJApvd256N1U462qnpuqaxXlqvn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ian Smith Subject: Re: how to allow by MAC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 03:21:02 -0000 I would ask what problem do you want to solve here; is it preventing a userjust from getting out unless they are using their assigned address, or something else? On Jun 10, 2012 8:16 PM, "Bill Yuan" wrote: > Hi Lan, > > Thanks for your reply, I am reading some old emails which you sent in 2008 > while other place asked a same question as mine, > > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:53 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > > > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 418, Issue 18, Message: 1 > > On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:43:39 +0800 Bill Yuan wrote: > > > > > how to allow by MAC in ipfw > > > > > > currently i set the rule like below > > > > > > 1 allow ip from any to any MAC any to > > > 1 allow ip from any to any MAC any > > > 2 deny all from any to any > > > > > > i want to only allow the mac address to go through the freebsd > firewall, > > > > > > but I found it is not working on my freebsd but it works on pfsense! > > > > > > so maybe that means the environment is not the same ? and how to setup > > the > > > ipfw properly to support this ? > > > > Bill, you did get some good clues in the earlier thread, but it's not > > clear if you took note of them. There's also been some confusion .. > > > > Firstly, read up on layer2 (ethernet, MAC-level) filtering options in > > ipfw(8). Thoroughly, several times, until you've got it. Seriously. > > > > After enabling sysctl net.link.ether.ipfw=1 (add it to /etc/sysctl.conf) > > ipfw will be invoked 4 times instead of the normal 2, on every packet. > > > > Read carefully ipfw(8) section 'PACKET FLOW', and see that only on the > > inbound pass invoked from ether_demux() and the outbound pass invoked > > from ether_output_frame() can you test for MAC addresses (or mac-types); > > the 'normal' layer3 passes examine packets that have no layer2 headers. > > > > You could just add 'layer2' to any rules filtering on MAC addresses, and > > omit MAC addresses from all layer 3 (IP) rules, but I'd recommend using > > a method like shown there to separate layer2 and layer3 flows early on: > > > > # packets from ether_demux > > ipfw add 10 skipto 1000 all from any to any layer2 in > > # packets from ip_input > > ipfw add 10 skipto 2000 all from any to any not layer2 in > > # packets from ip_output > > ipfw add 10 skipto 3000 all from any to any not layer2 out > > # packets from ether_output_frame > > ipfw add 10 skipto 4000 all from any to any layer2 out > > > > So at (eg) 1000 and 4000 place your incoming and outgoing MAC filtering > > rules (remembering the reversed order of MAC addresses vs IP addresses, > > and to allow broadcasts as well), pass good guys and/or block bad guys, > > then deal with your normal IPv4|v6 traffic in a separate section(s). > > > > Or you could just split the flows into two streams, one for layer2 for > > your MAC filtering, the other for layer3, ie the rest of your ruleset. > > > > HTH, Ian [please cc me on any reply] > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 03:39:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6071065670 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 03:39:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bycn82@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D778FC0C for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 03:39:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbmv11 with SMTP id v11so2369776vbm.13 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:39:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=L33gBzavP/qHWetsGLm7qDQkJRAUcnyoMVYGzhYqm8I=; b=g/Kc1c997VvrUCsHfwr5sMGUU/zFNY5t1P/4ICO7s2T+1j4uXKYDSCltSgDwfJhZgL FInD3/f1soVwZiGtEesIb1qmQ9u/ESmZsv5K0MAXb06WN5NS6MItTWCKhuCXpu3vGpw9 ne7kivvbgDVB7mVBW33xPUitWU/XZFTnJXqUwacgKQCwmOgI+3Tud+vINWhmAKkTrF+b M0QlDTmpMOf+fHNKLb/SolSK02SovuUt9ovrTM9J72N0D1p4sajIkW4lfRviVcfabOsl PdcWjCMRkYjxaBFNc/pERKmP0I6j+R1CHJRu0dQ+t/ePQS2xf207BD2rWi4+FbckI3ac cqFw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.240.194 with SMTP id lb2mr11526975vcb.60.1339385996913; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.214.70 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:39:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20120610120041.4D0F610657C3@hub.freebsd.org> <20120611025332.N46641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:39:56 +0800 Message-ID: From: Bill Yuan To: "Brian W." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ian Smith Subject: Re: how to allow by MAC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 03:39:58 -0000 Hi Brian, Thanks for your care, Execute me for my English is not that good , I am from Singapore :) I want to create a white list MAC address, Only the machine which it's MAC in the white list will be allowed, all others will be blocked. Thanks On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Brian W. wrote: > I would ask what problem do you want to solve here; is it preventing a > userjust from getting out unless they are using their assigned address, or > something else? > On Jun 10, 2012 8:16 PM, "Bill Yuan" wrote: > >> Hi Lan, >> >> Thanks for your reply, I am reading some old emails which you sent in 2008 >> while other place asked a same question as mine, >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:53 AM, Ian Smith wrote: >> >> > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 418, Issue 18, Message: 1 >> > On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:43:39 +0800 Bill Yuan wrote: >> > >> > > how to allow by MAC in ipfw >> > > >> > > currently i set the rule like below >> > > >> > > 1 allow ip from any to any MAC any to >> > > 1 allow ip from any to any MAC any >> > > 2 deny all from any to any >> > > >> > > i want to only allow the mac address to go through the freebsd >> firewall, >> > > >> > > but I found it is not working on my freebsd but it works on pfsense! >> > > >> > > so maybe that means the environment is not the same ? and how to >> setup >> > the >> > > ipfw properly to support this ? >> > >> > Bill, you did get some good clues in the earlier thread, but it's not >> > clear if you took note of them. There's also been some confusion .. >> > >> > Firstly, read up on layer2 (ethernet, MAC-level) filtering options in >> > ipfw(8). Thoroughly, several times, until you've got it. Seriously. >> > >> > After enabling sysctl net.link.ether.ipfw=1 (add it to /etc/sysctl.conf) >> > ipfw will be invoked 4 times instead of the normal 2, on every packet. >> > >> > Read carefully ipfw(8) section 'PACKET FLOW', and see that only on the >> > inbound pass invoked from ether_demux() and the outbound pass invoked >> > from ether_output_frame() can you test for MAC addresses (or mac-types); >> > the 'normal' layer3 passes examine packets that have no layer2 headers. >> > >> > You could just add 'layer2' to any rules filtering on MAC addresses, and >> > omit MAC addresses from all layer 3 (IP) rules, but I'd recommend using >> > a method like shown there to separate layer2 and layer3 flows early on: >> > >> > # packets from ether_demux >> > ipfw add 10 skipto 1000 all from any to any layer2 in >> > # packets from ip_input >> > ipfw add 10 skipto 2000 all from any to any not layer2 in >> > # packets from ip_output >> > ipfw add 10 skipto 3000 all from any to any not layer2 out >> > # packets from ether_output_frame >> > ipfw add 10 skipto 4000 all from any to any layer2 out >> > >> > So at (eg) 1000 and 4000 place your incoming and outgoing MAC filtering >> > rules (remembering the reversed order of MAC addresses vs IP addresses, >> > and to allow broadcasts as well), pass good guys and/or block bad guys, >> > then deal with your normal IPv4|v6 traffic in a separate section(s). >> > >> > Or you could just split the flows into two streams, one for layer2 for >> > your MAC filtering, the other for layer3, ie the rest of your ruleset. >> > >> > HTH, Ian [please cc me on any reply] >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 04:27:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E18A106566B for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 04:27:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subhro@80386.org) Received: from oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy6.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A1E18FC16 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 04:27:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27139 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jun 2012 04:27:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box761.bluehost.com) (66.147.244.61) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2012 04:27:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=80386.org; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject; bh=uitIGFX4a6aYTnYYTeXv17qjeAb2ZJ5lPpeSr9CaccE=; b=hcloCjf5lrlLS7F1pA1d3sDv8BXEyDMyYxRjVnfxFJPgv+Cinhy+p5k7CzXXOEEiDaTX716CBXoDAZDyn7ARqgLaA47iZUIbwH6oVsEDMNhEvtG946Tp5XGJjbqzZx/r; Received: from [117.194.36.158] (port=56139 helo=[192.168.1.4]) by box761.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SdwEN-0000LH-58; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:27:55 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Subhro Sankha Kar In-Reply-To: <4FD50011.6090703@myfairpoint.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:57:50 +0530 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4FD50011.6090703@myfairpoint.net> To: tech.junk@myfairpoint.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Identified-User: {1190:box761.bluehost.com:pixelpa2:80386.org} {sentby:smtp auth 117.194.36.158 authed with subhro@80386.org} Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Firefox Script Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 04:27:56 -0000 Hello Sean, Can you run FF from a terminal and report back what you see? Thanks -- Subhro Sankha Kar System Administrator Working and Playing with FreeBSD since 2002 On 11-Jun-2012, at 1:44 AM, sean wrote: > Hello All, >=20 > I just upgraded Firefox to the latest available in ports. > Since this upgrade Firefox is near unresponsive. > Messages keep popping up about unresponsive script errors on the page = being viewed. > Would anyone have any ideas on how to best approach this problem to = find the fix? >=20 > Thanks in advance, > Sean > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 06:20:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F9B1065674 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 06:20:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7E78FC0C for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 06:20:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (pool-96-229-186-65.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [96.229.186.65]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q5B6KI6P098348 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:20:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) From: Doug Hardie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:20:17 -0700 Message-Id: To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Version Selection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 06:20:25 -0000 I have a number of servers that I am about to upgrade to FreeBSD 9.0. = The processors all have the ability to run i386 or amd64. The machines = all have 2 GB memory which is more than adequate for their intended use. = Some of these are replacing very old equipment that is being retired = and did not have the ability to run amd64 so everything has been i386 = till now. The question is what are the advantages or disadvantages of = switching to amd64? I have tested all the various applications on amd64 = and they work fine. Is there going to be any benefit down the road in a = few years to being on amd64? If so, now would be the time to switch. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 06:29:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE77106566B for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 06:29:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [72.9.101.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7678FC14 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 06:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q5B6BhMQ081142 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 02:11:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=prime.gushi.org; s=primegushiorg; t=1339405414; bh=pr7dNrAiUu1x+k8YSSq50ACV5y6m3V0dAHjVX4nbYsQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; z=Date:=20Mon,=2011=20Jun=202012=2002:11:43=20-0400=20(EDT)|From:=2 0"Dan=20Mahoney,=20System=20Admin"=20|To:=20 questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20possbility=20of=20a=20port=20for= 20older=20versions=20of=20libintl?; b=GHaSBUSwFRTVz6D52O6oTF8cCulvhx6sUO4FoIZ2S3zIpNskEG4x7dFC1QHlimuvF z1DiETjBIfygAeBURt0ug== X-DomainKeys: Sendmail DomainKeys Filter v1.0.2 prime.gushi.org q5B6BhMQ081142 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; q=dns; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:user-agent: x-openpgp-key-id:mime-version:content-type; b=spmFWpeTDXnUgRZcibVwogEu+NqSzkhGipEfpARymyou3pSzRQpl0fUDkWHlGa0Ep LuhuhWpo9a8QTMyzRZSDg== Received: (from danm@localhost) by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id q5B6BhSq081141; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 02:11:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 02:11:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x624BB249 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (prime.gushi.org [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 11 Jun 2012 05:03:35 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Subject: possbility of a port for older versions of libintl? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 06:29:20 -0000 Hey there, I recently discovered that the vmware-tools package is compiled against libintl.so.8 -- yes, this is probably something that should be fixed at the vmware level, but VMware's love for FreeBSD isn't there. As a workaround, it might be useful to have a port which compiles an older version of libintl (potential security issues notwithstanding, since it's assumed it will only be used by this one tool). This seems to me to be somewhat *less* destabilizing than the commonly-suggested (and perhaps, oft-used) suggestion of symlinking /usr/lib/libintl.so.8 --> libintl.so.9 Thoughts? -- --------Dan Mahoney-------- Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 07:15:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC0F106566B for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:15:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B85188FC16 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:15:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5B7FVIu033966 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:15:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q5B7FVIu033966 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1339398932; bh=dyI+gTKvm9zXGH1XChs7phTgURHebwIbn3F3HSiCYmY=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=tBvBjtjuWtF6Xcbu/FP7moZEYwxVmSFETfi0qDI+XOO7sBzh4RelqoF568ZJrVDph zjZ6c9EkIGwa6PX0lNCEwvl7dSIIrhRiU3jV9S6iBW7jhg2Z9ycAkjtmR26gCpbV7Q WYUEeI+JTHz7INYU0Jdtyc2APUZ1Q4QdgpUlD96s= Message-ID: <4FD59B0D.9030802@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:15:25 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Hardie References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig33492C126E3906D0579C15C1" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_ALL,DKIM_SIGNED,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Version Selection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:15:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig33492C126E3906D0579C15C1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/06/2012 07:20, Doug Hardie wrote: > I have a number of servers that I am about to upgrade to FreeBSD 9.0. > The processors all have the ability to run i386 or amd64. The > machines all have 2 GB memory which is more than adequate for their > intended use. Some of these are replacing very old equipment that is > being retired and did not have the ability to run amd64 so everything > has been i386 till now. The question is what are the advantages or > disadvantages of switching to amd64? I have tested all the various > applications on amd64 and they work fine. Is there going to be any > benefit down the road in a few years to being on amd64? If so, now > would be the time to switch. In my experience I find that amd64 is the way to go. As in: the only reason to use i386 is if there is some software that requires i386 and that you can't either replace with an amd64 compatible alternative, run in 32bit mode using lib32 shlibs etc. or just do without entirely. The principle reasoning behind this is that amd64 is essentially a super-set of i386: just about anything you can do on i386, you can do on amd64, but not necessarily vice-versa. There are some differences in performance and memory usage, but these are usually minor and in practice mostly in favour of amd64. Although you're only using 2GB RAM now, amd64 does give you the possibility of expanding that to >4GB should that become a requirement in future. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig33492C126E3906D0579C15C1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/VmxMACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyI4gCdHGmLNPX54bvn4dG2f0KuYeHZ +X4An2l02ofm22mabp6CI3oBv+bYZaNx =LHxI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig33492C126E3906D0579C15C1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 07:23:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88239106566B for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:23:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A16F8FC22 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:23:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-177.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.177]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83593CA4D; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:23:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q5B7NQ38004412; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:23:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:23:26 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" Message-Id: <20120611092326.70a5ac43.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: possbility of a port for older versions of libintl? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:23:28 -0000 On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 02:11:43 -0400 (EDT), Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > As a workaround, it might be useful to have a port which compiles an older > version of libintl (potential security issues notwithstanding, since it's > assumed it will only be used by this one tool). Maybe using the port compatx--. (which has the required lib version you need) in combination with the ld.so library mapping (see "man libmap.conf") will work? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 07:29:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BACE4106566B for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:29:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E0138FC14 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:29:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5B7T4fR034256 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:29:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q5B7T4fR034256 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1339399746; bh=OnGRsr2i4QSSXKwhEMNQqxoiUPncDWia6Xc8f8QxZi8=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=Sxb2y0KE9ONX+/oqG5qHYB1lkzdHLFwc+OrDYPzvG9qRBHuMIC8ydjEfTtXK9hyAe j+kBll3iWIjqkle5hBdjV39b2DN/1EihG/bcZk4XOjA2fYkxNFnK7HLQ+m3K6cAhY3 jK4ntwekVaVhD58aqQZu3amPFSYRUsd9geQCbQ7U= Message-ID: <4FD59E40.3060506@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:29:04 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" References: <48302.1339366497@tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: <48302.1339366497@tristatelogic.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigEFE729C9F864BF9D52E7A48A" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_ALL,DKIM_SIGNED,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:29:10 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigEFE729C9F864BF9D52E7A48A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/06/2012 23:14, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > Well, nevermind about that. I get the general idea, i.e. that dumping > at level N causes dumping of everything that has changed since the last= > dump at level N-1. Not quite. A dump at level N includes everything that changed since the most recent dump at level M where M Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB641065670 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:13:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp3.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38888FC14 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:13:12 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=24nGGmL2E/NKoKQ+I+puBWCcMtF8H04rZFyEZTKopME= c=1 sm=0 a=omZlkPoa9AwA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=0wQVMjYSAAAA:8 a=hslvXZit2g7bH8OoJagA:9 a=hWxbGAk4Mo4A:10 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp02.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:40600] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id D4/81-25419-198A5DF4; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 04:13:06 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 04:13:05 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Gary Aitken Subject: Re: ports: make config-recursive doesn't really X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:13:13 -0000 from Gary Aitken : I'm trying to build a script to rebuild and reinstall everything I have installed from ports. I don't want to have to keep checking on it and filling out the +appropriate check boxes for options. I naively assumed: for port in $ports do cd /usr/port/$port make config-recursive cd ../.. done would allow me to set up all the dependencies before continuing with the install. It appears, however, that it doesn't really recurse properly. I say "appears" only because this is my first time trying this and despite doing the above +setting of options, I am confronted with additional options screens as the build progresses. Is there a way to get around this? This has happened to me too, all too many times. One way to avoid this problem is to run make config-recursive repeatedly until you get no more dialog screens. Or you can try portmaster as Subhro Sankha Kar suggests; I am only getting started with portmaster, successfully portmastered cdrtools. I have a lot of ports now to upgrade (master?) I like to keep a log such as by (command) | & tee /path/to/log-file, or anything else that works equally well. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 08:42:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157AA106564A for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:42:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6479C8FC12 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout08 with smtp id LwfY1j006516WCc01wfZDW; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:39:33 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=I8Dntacg c=1 sm=1 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=rLpCYgkgFLgA:10 a=RLl8lpB8pwYA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=HlN3pFjRN-wqgVSDRPcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=WFF7yJgLrl0A:10 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1Se09m-00012m-Pu for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:39:32 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:39:26 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <48302.1339366497@tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201206110939.26558.mike@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mike@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) Subject: Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:42:45 -0000 On Monday 11 June 2012 00:03:59 Daniel Feenberg wrote: > It does occur to me that /etc is not a felicitous place to keep this > information, but given the desirability of dumping filesystems in read > only state, placing the dump dates in the filesystem itself isn't > feasible. Dumping with the -L option creates a temporary read only snapshot which is used as the source for the backup. This enables you to safely backup a live filesystem, More background on snapshots at -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 10:12:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5130F106564A for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:12:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46CF8FC0C for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:12:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q5BACClT081293; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:12:13 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:12:12 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Jerry In-Reply-To: <20120610232318.4B2111065779@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20120611194826.G46641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20120610232318.4B2111065779@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:12:16 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 418, Issue 19, Message: 23 On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:56:49 -0400 Jerry wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:06:26 +0200 > Julian H. Stacey articulated: [..] > >As a start here's : http://berklix.org/uefi/ > > > >URLs welcome. Contact names welcome. Volunteers welcome. > > It is posts like this that basically turn my stomach. A product, any > product, should succeed or fail based on its own merits and not because > some government agency aided or thwarted it. Most, it not nearly all PC > manufacturers exist solely because of Microsoft. The PC market balloons > every time Microsoft releases a new version of Windows. Seriously now, > how many PC were sold because FreeBSD released version 9 of its OS? If > you want to beat someone, you make a better product. You don't go > running to your mamma asking for protection. That stinks of > socialism/fascism. The UEFI specification has existed for years. > Supposedly, Linux has been capable of using it for 8+ years. I have > no idea if FreeBSD is even capable of handling it. It wouldn't > surprise me it if couldn't though. What this really tells me is that > there has been way to much procrastination by the FOSS. Microsoft > simply took advantage of an existing standard (remember "standards" > something the FOSS is always crying about) and now FOSS is begging for > mercy. This is more than just slightly funny, it is pathetic. If 1% of > the effort of spreading this BS over UEFI had gone into working on a > solution for UEFI two years ago, we wouldn't be having this discussion > at all. I'vw been wondering when this topic would summon our longest-serving resident troll for Microsoft out of the woodwork for a proper full-tilt rant, replete with inimitable "socialism/fascism" jibe. Gotta love it! Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 11:31:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B7AB1065670 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:31:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45D38FC12 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:31:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Se2qN-0007mi-VW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:31:36 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Se2qN-0004bI-JC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:31:35 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5BBVZoH099362 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:31:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q5BBVZIg099361 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:31:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:31:35 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120611113135.GA99238@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: can't kill -9 Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:31:43 -0000 My X is unusable since the recent png update. This is r236740M on HP Compaq 6715s amd64 laptop. I've no hal installed (if this matters). # pkg info -x xorg linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 10) xorg-cf-files-1.0.4 X.org cf files for use with imake builds xorg-fonts-7.5.1 X.org fonts meta-port xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.5.1 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-75dpi-7.5.1 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-cyrillic-7.5.1 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-7.5.1 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-truetype-7.5.1 X.Org TrueType fonts xorg-fonts-type1-7.5.1 X.Org Type1 fonts xorg-libraries-7.5.1 X.org libraries meta-port xorg-macros-1.16.1 X.Org development aclocal macros xorg-server-1.7.7_5,1 X.Org X server and related programs # # pkg info -x xf86 libXxf86dga-1.1.2 X DGA Extension libXxf86misc-1.0.3 X XF86-Misc Extension libXxf86vm-1.1.1 X Vidmode Extension xf86-input-keyboard-1.6.1 X.Org keyboard input driver xf86-input-mouse-1.7.1 X.Org mouse input driver xf86-video-ati-6.14.3_1 X.Org ati display driver xf86bigfontproto-1.2.0 XFree86-Bigfont extension headers xf86dgaproto-2.1 XFree86-DGA extension headers xf86driproto-2.1.1 XFree86-DRI extension headers xf86miscproto-0.9.3 XFree86-Misc extension headers xf86vidmodeproto-2.3.1 XFree86-VidModeExtension extension headers # My xorg.conf.new: Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" Option "AllowEmptyInput" "Off" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "record" Load "dbe" Load "glx" Load "dri" Load "dri2" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 330 210 # mm Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "LPL" ModelName "d600" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "radeon" VendorName "Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI" BoardName "RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]" BusID "PCI:1:5:0" Option "int10" "on" Option "BusType" "PCIE" Option "RenderAccel" "on" Option "AccelMethod" "xaa" Option "DynamicPM" "on" Option "DRI" "on" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection The Xorg.0.log: X.Org X Server 1.7.7 Release Date: 2010-05-04 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64 Current Operating System: FreeBSD mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r236740M: Sat Jun 9 22:35:49 BST 2012 root@mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUZI amd64 Build Date: 11 June 2012 12:11:20PM Current version of pixman: 0.24.2 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Jun 11 12:24:08 2012 (++) Using config file: "/root/xorg.conf.new" (==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured" (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "Card0" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" (**) Option "AllowEmptyInput" "Off" (==) Not automatically adding devices (==) Not automatically enabling devices (**) FontPath set to: /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" (II) Loader magic: 0x7bd3c0 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 6.0 X.Org XInput driver : 7.0 X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (--) using VT number 9 (--) PCI:*(0:1:5:0) 1002:791f:103c:30c2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series] rev 0, Mem @ 0xc0000000/134217728, 0xd0200000/65536, 0xd0300000/1048576, I/O @ 0x00004000/256, BIOS @ 0x????????/65536 (II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "record" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "dri" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "dri2" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: "record" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.13.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension RECORD (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (==) AIGLX disabled (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: "dri" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI (II) LoadModule: "dri2" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so (II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension DRI2 (II) LoadModule: "radeon" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so (II) Module radeon: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 6.14.3 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.7.1 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0 (II) LoadModule: "kbd" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.6.1 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0 (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: ATI Radeon Mobility X600 (M24) 3150 (PCIE), ATI FireMV 2400 (PCI), ATI Radeon Mobility X300 (M24) 3152 (PCIE), ATI FireGL M24 GL 3154 (PCIE), ATI FireMV 2400 3155 (PCI), ATI Radeon X600 (RV380) 3E50 (PCIE), ATI FireGL V3200 (RV380) 3E54 (PCIE), ATI Radeon IGP320 (A3) 4136, ATI Radeon IGP330/340/350 (A4) 4137, ATI Radeon 9500 AD (AGP), ATI Radeon 9500 AE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600TX AF (AGP), ATI FireGL Z1 AG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800SE AH (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800 AI (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800 AJ (AGP), ATI FireGL X2 AK (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600 AP (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600SE AQ (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600XT AR (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600 AS (AGP), ATI FireGL T2 AT (AGP), ATI Radeon 9650, ATI FireGL RV360 AV (AGP), ATI Radeon 7000 IGP (A4+) 4237, ATI Radeon 8500 AIW BB (AGP), ATI Radeon IGP320M (U1) 4336, ATI Radeon IGP330M/340M/350M (U2) 4337, ATI Radeon Mobility 7000 IGP 4437, ATI Radeon 9000/PRO If (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon 9000 Ig (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JH (AGP), ATI Radeon X800PRO (R420) JI (AGP), ATI Radeon X800SE (R420) JJ (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JK (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JL (AGP), ATI FireGL X3 (R420) JM (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9800 (M18) JN (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 SE (R420) (AGP), ATI Radeon X800XT (R420) JP (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 VE (R420) JT (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 XT (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 SE (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 PRO (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 XT PE (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility M7 LW (AGP), ATI Mobility FireGL 7800 M7 LX (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LZ (AGP), ATI FireGL Mobility 9000 (M9) Ld (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lg (AGP), ATI Radeon 9700 Pro ND (AGP), ATI Radeon 9700/9500Pro NE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600TX NF (AGP), ATI FireGL X1 NG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800PRO NH (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800 NI (AGP), ATI FireGL X2 NK (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800XT NJ (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9600/9700 (M10/M11) NP (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NQ (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M11) NR (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NS (AGP), ATI FireGL Mobility T2 (M10) NT (AGP), ATI FireGL Mobility T2e (M11) NV (AGP), ATI Radeon QD (AGP), ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP), ATI FireGL 8700/8800 QH (AGP), ATI Radeon 8500 QL (AGP), ATI Radeon 9100 QM (AGP), ATI Radeon 7500 QW (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon 7500 QX (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon VE/7000 QY (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon VE/7000 QZ (AGP/PCI), ATI ES1000 515E (PCI), ATI Radeon Mobility X300 (M22) 5460 (PCIE), ATI Radeon Mobility X600 SE (M24C) 5462 (PCIE), ATI FireGL M22 GL 5464 (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 (R423) UH (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800PRO (R423) UI (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800LE (R423) UJ (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800SE (R423) UK (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 XTP (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 XL (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 SE (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 (R430) (PCIE), ATI FireGL V7100 (R423) (PCIE), ATI FireGL V5100 (R423) UQ (PCIE), ATI FireGL unknown (R423) UR (PCIE), ATI FireGL unknown (R423) UT (PCIE), ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 (M26) (PCIE), ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 (M26) (PCIE), ATI Mobility Radeon X700 XL (M26) (PCIE), ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE), ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X550XTX 5657 (PCIE), ATI Radeon 9100 IGP (A5) 5834, ATI Radeon Mobility 9100 IGP (U3) 5835, ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5954 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE), ATI Radeon 9250 5960 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9200 5961 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9200 5962 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9200SE 5964 (AGP), ATI FireMV 2200 (PCI), ATI ES1000 5969 (PCI), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5974 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5975 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A41 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A42 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A61 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A62 (PCIE), ATI Radeon X300 (RV370) 5B60 (PCIE), ATI Radeon X600 (RV370) 5B62 (PCIE), ATI Radeon X550 (RV370) 5B63 (PCIE), ATI FireGL V3100 (RV370) 5B64 (PCIE), ATI FireMV 2200 PCIE (RV370) 5B65 (PCIE), ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C61 (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C63 (AGP), ATI Mobility Radeon X800 XT (M28) (PCIE), ATI Mobility FireGL V5100 (M28) (PCIE), ATI Mobility Radeon X800 (M28) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 5D4C (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 XT PE (R480) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 SE (R480) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 PRO (R480) (PCIE), ATI unknown Radeon / FireGL (R480) 5D50 (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 XT (R480) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800XT (R423) 5D57 (PCIE), ATI FireGL V5000 (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 XT (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 PRO (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 SE (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 SE (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Mobility Radeon X1800 XT, ATI Mobility Radeon X1800, ATI Mobility FireGL V7200, ATI FireGL V7200, ATI FireGL V5300, ATI Mobility FireGL V7100, ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800, ATI FireGL V7300, ATI FireGL V7350, ATI Radeon X1600, ATI RV505, ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Radeon X1550, ATI M54-GL, ATI Mobility Radeon X1400, ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Radeon X1550 64-bit, ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1300, ATI RV505, ATI RV505, ATI FireGL V3300, ATI FireGL V3350, ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1550 64-bit, ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Radeon X1600, ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Mobility Radeon X1450, ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Mobility Radeon X2300, ATI Mobility Radeon X2300, ATI Mobility Radeon X1350, ATI Mobility Radeon X1350, ATI Mobility Radeon X1450, ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1550, ATI Mobility Radeon X1350, ATI FireMV 2250, ATI Radeon X1550 64-bit, ATI Radeon X1600, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1600, ATI Radeon X1600, ATI Mobility FireGL V5200, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1600, ATI Radeon X1300 XT/X1600 Pro, ATI FireGL V3400, ATI Mobility FireGL V5250, ATI Mobility Radeon X1700, ATI Mobility Radeon X1700 XT, ATI FireGL V5200, ATI Mobility Radeon X1700, ATI Radeon X2300HD, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2300, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2300, ATI Radeon X1950, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1950, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI AMD Stream Processor, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1950, ATI RV560, ATI RV560, ATI Mobility Radeon X1900, ATI RV560, ATI Radeon X1950 GT, ATI RV570, ATI RV570, ATI FireGL V7400, ATI RV560, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI RV560, ATI Radeon 9100 PRO IGP 7834, ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 IGP 7835, ATI Radeon X1200, ATI Radeon X1200, ATI Radeon X1200, ATI Radeon X1200, ATI Radeon X1200, ATI RS740, ATI RS740M, ATI RS740, ATI RS740M, ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2900 Pro, ATI Radeon HD 2900 GT, ATI FireGL V8650, ATI FireGL V8600, ATI FireGL V7600, ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4870 x2, ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4850 x2, ATI FirePro V8750 (FireGL), ATI FirePro V7760 (FireGL), ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4850, ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4850 X2, ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI FirePro RV770, AMD FireStream 9270, AMD FireStream 9250, ATI FirePro V8700 (FireGL), ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4870, ATI Mobility RADEON M98, ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4870, ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI FirePro M7750, ATI M98, ATI M98, ATI M98, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650, ATI Radeon RV730 (AGP), ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670, ATI FirePro M5750, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670, ATI Radeon RV730 (AGP), ATI RV730XT [Radeon HD 4670], ATI RADEON E4600, ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series, ATI RV730 PRO [Radeon HD 4650], ATI FirePro V7750 (FireGL), ATI FirePro V5700 (FireGL), ATI FirePro V3750 (FireGL), ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4830, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4850, ATI FirePro M7740, ATI RV740, ATI Radeon HD 4770, ATI Radeon HD 4700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4770, ATI FirePro M5750, ATI RV610, ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro, ATI Radeon HD 2400 PRO AGP, ATI FireGL V4000, ATI RV610, ATI Radeon HD 2350, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400 XT, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400, ATI RADEON E2400, ATI RV610, ATI FireMV 2260, ATI RV670, ATI Radeon HD3870, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850, ATI Radeon HD3850, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850 X2, ATI RV670, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2, ATI Radeon HD3870 X2, ATI FireGL V7700, ATI Radeon HD3850, ATI Radeon HD3690, AMD Firestream 9170, ATI Radeon HD 4550, ATI Radeon RV710, ATI Radeon RV710, ATI Radeon RV710, ATI Radeon HD 4350, ATI Mobility Radeon 4300 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon 4500 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon 4500 Series, ATI FirePro RG220, ATI Mobility Radeon 4330, ATI RV630, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT AGP, ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro AGP, ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro, ATI Gemini RV630, ATI Gemini Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT, ATI FireGL V5600, ATI FireGL V3600, ATI Radeon HD 2600 LE, ATI Mobility FireGL Graphics Processor, ATI Radeon HD 3470, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3430, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series, ATI Radeon HD 3450, ATI Radeon HD 3450, ATI Radeon HD 3430, ATI Radeon HD 3450, ATI FirePro V3700, ATI FireMV 2450, ATI FireMV 2260, ATI FireMV 2260, ATI Radeon HD 3600 Series, ATI Radeon HD 3650 AGP, ATI Radeon HD 3600 PRO, ATI Radeon HD 3600 XT, ATI Radeon HD 3600 PRO, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3670, ATI Mobility FireGL V5700, ATI Mobility FireGL V5725, ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics, ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics, ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics, ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics, ATI Radeon HD 3300 Graphics, ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics, ATI Radeon 3000 Graphics, SUMO, SUMO, SUMO2, SUMO2, SUMO2, SUMO2, SUMO, SUMO, SUMO, SUMO, SUMO, ATI Radeon HD 4200, ATI Radeon 4100, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200, ATI Mobility Radeon 4100, ATI Radeon HD 4290, ATI Radeon HD 4250, AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics, AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics, AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics, AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics, AMD Radeon HD 6300 Series Graphics, AMD Radeon HD 6200 Series Graphics, CYPRESS, ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, AMD Firestream 9370, AMD Firestream 9350, ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 6700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 6700 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5570, ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, ATI Radeon HD 5670, ATI Radeon HD 5570, ATI Radeon HD 5500 Series, REDWOOD, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon Graphics, ATI Mobility Radeon Graphics, CEDAR, ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, ATI FirePro 2270, CEDAR, ATI Radeon HD 5450, CEDAR, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series, AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, AMD Radeon HD 6900M Series, Mobility Radeon HD 6000 Series, BARTS, BARTS, Mobility Radeon HD 6000 Series, Mobility Radeon HD 6000 Series, BARTS, BARTS, BARTS, BARTS, AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series, AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series, AMD Radeon HD 6700 Series, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01@00:05:0 (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support (II) RADEON(0): TOTO SAYS 00000000d0200000 (II) RADEON(0): MMIO registers at 0x00000000d0200000: size 64KB (II) RADEON(0): PCI bus 1 card 5 func 0 (==) RADEON(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 (II) RADEON(0): Pixel depth = 24 bits stored in 4 bytes (32 bpp pixmaps) (==) RADEON(0): Default visual is TrueColor (**) RADEON(0): Option "BusType" "PCIE" (**) RADEON(0): Option "RenderAccel" "on" (**) RADEON(0): Option "AccelMethod" "xaa" (**) RADEON(0): Option "DRI" "on" (**) RADEON(0): Option "Int10" "on" (**) RADEON(0): Option "DynamicPM" "on" (II) Loading sub module "vgahw" (II) LoadModule: "vgahw" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libvgahw.so (II) Module vgahw: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 (II) RADEON(0): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp->IOBase is 0x03d0, hwp->PIOOffset is 0x0000 (==) RADEON(0): RGB weight 888 (II) RADEON(0): Using 8 bits per RGB (8 bit DAC) (--) RADEON(0): Chipset: "ATI Radeon X1200" (ChipID = 0x791f) (--) RADEON(0): Linear framebuffer at 0x00000000c0000000 (II) RADEON(0): PCI card detected (**) RADEON(0): Forced into PCI mode (II) Loading sub module "int10" (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libint10.so (II) Module int10: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 (II) RADEON(0): initializing int10 (**) RADEON(0): Option "int10" "on" (==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x20000) was already clear (==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xc0000,0x40000) was already clear (II) RADEON(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (II) RADEON(0): ATOM BIOS detected (II) RADEON(0): ATOM BIOS Rom: SubsystemVendorID: 0x1002 SubsystemID: 0x791f IOBaseAddress: 0x4000 Filename: br23883.bin BIOS Bootup Message: ATI Radeon Xpress ?1250? for HP_TT (II) RADEON(0): Framebuffer space used by Firmware (kb): 20 (II) RADEON(0): Start of VRAM area used by Firmware: 0x7ffb000 (II) RADEON(0): AtomBIOS requests 20kB of VRAM scratch space (II) RADEON(0): AtomBIOS VRAM scratch base: 0x7ffb000 (II) RADEON(0): Cannot get VRAM scratch space. Allocating in main memory instead (II) RADEON(0): Default Engine Clock: 400000 (II) RADEON(0): Default Memory Clock: 200000 (II) RADEON(0): Maximum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Output: 1200000 (II) RADEON(0): Minimum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Output: 0 (II) RADEON(0): Maximum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Input: 13500 (II) RADEON(0): Minimum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Input: 1000 (II) RADEON(0): Maximum Pixel Clock: 400000 (II) RADEON(0): Reference Clock: 14320 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:01:05.0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 10 drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:01:05.0 (II) RADEON(0): [dri] Found DRI library version 1.3.0 and kernel module version 1.31.0 (==) RADEON(0): Page Flipping disabled on r5xx and newer chips. (II) RADEON(0): Will try to use DMA for Xv image transfers (II) RADEON(0): Generation 2 PCI interface, using max accessible memory (II) RADEON(0): Detected total video RAM=131072K, accessible=131072K (PCI BAR=131072K) (--) RADEON(0): Mapped VideoRAM: 131072 kByte (128 bit DDR SDRAM) (II) RADEON(0): Color tiling enabled by default (II) Loading sub module "ddc" (II) LoadModule: "ddc" (II) Module "ddc" already built-in (II) Loading sub module "i2c" (II) LoadModule: "i2c" (II) Module "i2c" already built-in (II) RADEON(0): PLL parameters: rf=1432 rd=12 min=80000 max=120000; xclk=40000 (WW) RADEON(0): LVDS Info: XRes: 1280, YRes: 800, DotClock: 71000 HBlank: 160, HOverPlus: 48, HSyncWidth: 32 VBlank: 23, VOverPlus: 3, VSyncWidth: 6 (II) RADEON(0): Skipping TV-Out (II) RADEON(0): Skipping Component Video (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 using monitor section Monitor0 (II) RADEON(0): I2C bus "VGA-0" initialized. (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS has no monitor section (II) RADEON(0): I2C bus "LVDS" initialized. (II) RADEON(0): Port0: XRANDR name: VGA-0 Connector: VGA CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1 DDC reg: 0x7e50 (II) RADEON(0): Port1: XRANDR name: LVDS Connector: LVDS LCD1: INTERNAL_LVTM1 DDC reg: 0x7e40 (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "VGA-0:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. Dac detection success (II) RADEON(0): Output: VGA-0, Detected Monitor Type: 0 finished output detect: 0 (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "LVDS:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. (II) RADEON(0): Output: LVDS, Detected Monitor Type: 2 (II) RADEON(0): EDID data from the display on output: LVDS ---------------------- (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer: LPL Model: d600 Serial#: 0 (II) RADEON(0): Year: 2006 Week: 0 (II) RADEON(0): EDID Version: 1.3 (II) RADEON(0): Digital Display Input (II) RADEON(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 33 vert.: 21 (II) RADEON(0): Gamma: 2.20 (II) RADEON(0): No DPMS capabilities specified (II) RADEON(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4 (II) RADEON(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode (II) RADEON(0): redX: 0.600 redY: 0.351 greenX: 0.324 greenY: 0.554 (II) RADEON(0): blueX: 0.153 blueY: 0.145 whiteX: 0.312 whiteY: 0.328 (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 (II) RADEON(0): Supported detailed timing: (II) RADEON(0): clock: 71.0 MHz Image Size: 331 x 207 mm (II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1280 h_sync: 1328 h_sync_end 1360 h_blank_end 1440 h_border: 0 (II) RADEON(0): v_active: 800 v_sync: 803 v_sync_end 809 v_blanking: 823 v_border: 0 (II) RADEON(0): LGPhilipsLCD (II) RADEON(0): LP154WX4-TLA1 (II) RADEON(0): EDID (in hex): (II) RADEON(0): 00ffffffffffff00320c00d600000000 (II) RADEON(0): 00100103802115780ab3409959538d27 (II) RADEON(0): 25505400000001010101010101010101 (II) RADEON(0): 010101010101bc1b00a0502017303020 (II) RADEON(0): 36004bcf100000190000000000000000 (II) RADEON(0): 00000000000000000000000000fe004c (II) RADEON(0): 475068696c6970734c43440a000000fe (II) RADEON(0): 004c503135345758342d544c4131004d finished output detect: 1 finished all detect Dac detection success (II) RADEON(0): Output: VGA-0, Detected Monitor Type: 0 (II) RADEON(0): Output: LVDS, Detected Monitor Type: 2 (II) RADEON(0): EDID data from the display on output: LVDS ---------------------- (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer: LPL Model: d600 Serial#: 0 (II) RADEON(0): Year: 2006 Week: 0 (II) RADEON(0): EDID Version: 1.3 (II) RADEON(0): Digital Display Input (II) RADEON(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 33 vert.: 21 (II) RADEON(0): Gamma: 2.20 (II) RADEON(0): No DPMS capabilities specified (II) RADEON(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4 (II) RADEON(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode (II) RADEON(0): redX: 0.600 redY: 0.351 greenX: 0.324 greenY: 0.554 (II) RADEON(0): blueX: 0.153 blueY: 0.145 whiteX: 0.312 whiteY: 0.328 (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 (II) RADEON(0): Supported detailed timing: (II) RADEON(0): clock: 71.0 MHz Image Size: 331 x 207 mm (II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1280 h_sync: 1328 h_sync_end 1360 h_blank_end 1440 h_border: 0 (II) RADEON(0): v_active: 800 v_sync: 803 v_sync_end 809 v_blanking: 823 v_border: 0 (II) RADEON(0): LGPhilipsLCD (II) RADEON(0): LP154WX4-TLA1 (II) RADEON(0): EDID (in hex): (II) RADEON(0): 00ffffffffffff00320c00d600000000 (II) RADEON(0): 00100103802115780ab3409959538d27 (II) RADEON(0): 25505400000001010101010101010101 (II) RADEON(0): 010101010101bc1b00a0502017303020 (II) RADEON(0): 36004bcf100000190000000000000000 (II) RADEON(0): 00000000000000000000000000fe004c (II) RADEON(0): 475068696c6970734c43440a000000fe (II) RADEON(0): 004c503135345758342d544c4131004d (II) RADEON(0): EDID vendor "LPL", prod id 54784 (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 disconnected (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS connected (II) RADEON(0): Using exact sizes for initial modes (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS using initial mode 1280x800 (II) RADEON(0): Using default gamma of (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) unless otherwise stated. (==) RADEON(0): DPI set to (96, 96) (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in (**) RADEON(0): Using XAA acceleration architecture (II) Loading sub module "xaa" (II) LoadModule: "xaa" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libxaa.so (II) Module xaa: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.2.1 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 (==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (!!) RADEON(0): MergedFB support has been removed and replaced with xrandr 1.2 support (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp (II) RADEON(0): RADEONScreenInit c0000000 0 0 (==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear Output LCD1 disable success Blank CRTC 0 success Disable CRTC 0 success Blank CRTC 1 success Disable CRTC 1 success (II) RADEON(0): Dynamic Power Management Enabled (==) RADEON(0): Using 24 bit depth buffer (II) RADEON(0): RADEONInitMemoryMap() : (II) RADEON(0): mem_size : 0x08000000 (II) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0xbfffb800 (II) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0x003f0000 (II) RADEON(0): Depth moves disabled by default (II) RADEON(0): Using 32 MB GART aperture (II) RADEON(0): Using 1 MB for the ring buffer (II) RADEON(0): Using 2 MB for vertex/indirect buffers (II) RADEON(0): Using 29 MB for GART textures (II) RADEON(0): Memory manager initialized to (0,0) (1280,8191) (II) RADEON(0): Reserved area from (0,1280) to (1280,1282) (II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1280 x 6909 (II) RADEON(0): Will use front buffer at offset 0x0 (II) RADEON(0): Will use back buffer at offset 0x1978000 (II) RADEON(0): Will use depth buffer at offset 0x1fb8000 (II) RADEON(0): Will use 92160 kb for textures at offset 0x25f8000 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:01:05.0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 10 drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:01:05.0 (II) [drm] DRM interface version 1.2 (II) [drm] DRM open master succeeded. (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Using the DRM lock SAREA also for drawables. (II) RADEON(0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0x40000000000 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel (II) RADEON(0): X context handle = 0x1 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler (II) RADEON(0): [pci] 32768 kB allocated with handle 0xcff65000 (II) RADEON(0): [pci] ring handle = 0x00000000 (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring mapped at 0x804c1f000 (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring contents 0x00000000 (II) RADEON(0): [pci] ring read ptr handle = 0x00000000 (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring read ptr mapped at 0x80090e000 (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring read ptr contents 0x00000000 (II) RADEON(0): [pci] vertex/indirect buffers handle = 0x00000000 (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Vertex/indirect buffers mapped at 0x80ce00000 (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Vertex/indirect buffers contents 0x00000000 (II) RADEON(0): [pci] GART texture map handle = 0x00000000 (II) RADEON(0): [pci] GART Texture map mapped at 0x80d094000 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] register handle = 0x00000000 (II) RADEON(0): [dri] Visual configs initialized (II) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMemMapRegisters() : (II) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0xbfffb800 0xbfffb800 (II) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0x003f0000 (==) RADEON(0): Backing store disabled (II) RADEON(0): [DRI] installation complete (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Added 32 65536 byte vertex/indirect buffers (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Mapped 32 vertex/indirect buffers (II) RADEON(0): [drm] dma control initialized, using IRQ 256 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Initialized kernel GART heap manager, 29884416 (WW) RADEON(0): DRI init changed memory map, adjusting ... (WW) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION was: 0xbfffb800 is: 0xbfffb800 (WW) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION was: 0x003f0000 is: 0xc1ffc000 (II) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMemMapRegisters() : (II) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0xbfffb800 0xbfffb800 (II) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0xc1ffc000 (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering enabled (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration disabled (II) RADEON(0): num quad-pipes is 1 (II) RADEON(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) Screen to screen bit blits Solid filled rectangles 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion Solid Lines Scanline Image Writes Setting up tile and stipple cache: 32 128x128 slots 32 256x256 slots 16 512x512 slots (II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled (==) RADEON(0): DPMS enabled (==) RADEON(0): Silken mouse enabled (II) RADEON(0): Will use 32 kb for hardware cursor 0 at offset 0x00643000 (II) RADEON(0): Will use 32 kb for hardware cursor 1 at offset 0x00648000 (II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1280 x 6901 (II) RADEON(0): Set up textured video (II) RADEON(0): [XvMC] Associated with Radeon Textured Video. (II) RADEON(0): [XvMC] Extension initialized. Output CRT1 disable success Output LCD1 disable success Blank CRTC 0 success Disable CRTC 0 success Blank CRTC 1 success Disable CRTC 1 success I tried running Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new I get black screen, from which I can't recover. CTRL+ALT+F<...> does nothing, CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE does nothing. And I can't kill Xorg: # ps ax |grep Xorg 1056 0 RE+ 5:54.16 Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new -retro 1112 1 RL+ 0:00.02 grep Xorg # kill -9 1056 # ps ax |grep Xorg 1056 0 RE+ 6:01.24 Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new -retro 1114 1 S+ 0:00.02 grep Xorg # The only way I can recover is reboot. Please advise. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 12:00:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8722D1065670 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:00:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech.junk@myfairpoint.net) Received: from mail14c26.carrierzone.com (mail14c26.carrierzone.com [66.175.40.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209018FC17 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:00:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Authenticated-User: tech.junk.myfairpoint.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=myfairpoint.net; s=alpha; t=1339414295; bh=OtnKLQMJO4y6gmc0iY38pSb80qwKw21tweNqkeswzLE=; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To; b=LyY8GhwKMLVE6UKbZAb0YifZftruvpeTJgKgcfsgJJAyQEnLknSRyicqunxDJuCFq /iWQifIcKzxSPDG4gSL8LWiSs4SNF/wxcnYfl0vTqspUjTPo6QNq6U66ldP20XeAHz kyyvx3WYA+eHpXriy4PTU9V2dA8j9MxbPklHO8nM= Received: from [192.168.1.143] (pool-72-71-207-111.cncdnh.fast03.myfairpoint.net [72.71.207.111]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail14c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q5BBVV3Y012098 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:31:32 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) From: sean In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:31:30 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <06CD136E-ADC9-49D5-A849-2B58340A7D9E@myfairpoint.net> References: <4FD50011.6090703@myfairpoint.net> To: FreeBSD X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=1.1 cv=W4FlPJmFF1rdyNA2pYdtX5qPo3jBUwbeivg1Aybx0u0= c=1 sm=1 a=YamaJ3vGr5cA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=vvY+s4Ie4P/yjojtf61xAA==:17 a=QjOFzM1H_lspsDzkxQAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=vvY+s4Ie4P/yjojtf61xAA==:117 X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020202.4FD5D717.00F4, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: Firefox Script Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:00:01 -0000 On Jun 11, 2012, at 12:27 AM, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote: > Hello Sean, >=20 > Can you run FF from a terminal and report back what you see? >=20 > Thanks > -- > Subhro Sankha Kar > System Administrator > Working and Playing with FreeBSD since 2002 >=20 Thank you for the reply. I have cured the problem. To fix the unresponsiveness I had to delete the .mozilla directory in my = home directory and let Firefox recreate a new one on startup. I just had to reconfigure FF to my personal settings since this is a = "first time" run. Thanks again From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 12:14:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F68106564A for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:14:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8B18FC14 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Jun 2012 08:14:24 -0400 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BUL95679; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:14:24 -0400 Received: from 209-6-86-84.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.86.84]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Jun 2012 08:14:24 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20437.57631.776197.982243@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:14:23 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <201206110559.q5B5x0Vu096317@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <201206110559.q5B5x0Vu096317@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Subject: speed of "dump" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:14:25 -0000 Another thread, which I seem to have lost, was talking about dump and sizing its cache. Per my promise, appended is the log of this morning's level 0 dump, using C=32. THe system is -CURRENT from March, using AMD Phemon II x4/3ghz and SATA 3gbit drives (one internal, one external.). Robert Huff Backup started. at Mon Jun 11 01:59:00 EDT 2012 /backup clean Disk mounted DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Mon Jun 11 01:59:02 2012 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/ad2s1a (/) to 2012.Jun.11.root.dump DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] DUMP: Cache 32 MB, blocksize = 65536 DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] DUMP: estimated 1295163 tape blocks. DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] DUMP: DUMP: 1295138 tape blocks on 1 volume DUMP: finished in 106 seconds, throughput 12218 KBytes/sec DUMP: level 0 dump on Mon Jun 11 01:59:02 2012 DUMP: Closing 2012.Jun.11.root.dump DUMP: DUMP IS DONE Compressing with gzip ... done DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Mon Jun 11 02:02:06 2012 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/ad2s1d (/var) to 2012.Jun.11.var.dump DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] DUMP: Cache 32 MB, blocksize = 65536 DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] DUMP: estimated 545087 tape blocks. DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] DUMP: DUMP: 545009 tape blocks on 1 volume DUMP: finished in 72 seconds, throughput 7569 KBytes/sec DUMP: level 0 dump on Mon Jun 11 02:02:06 2012 DUMP: Closing 2012.Jun.11.var.dump DUMP: DUMP IS DONE Compressing with gzip... done DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Mon Jun 11 02:04:01 2012 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/ad4p2 (/usr) to 2012.Jun.11.usr.dump DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] DUMP: Cache 32 MB, blocksize = 65536 DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] DUMP: estimated 34156025 tape blocks. DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] DUMP: 11.75% done, finished in 0:37 at Mon Jun 11 02:46:45 2012 DUMP: 29.89% done, finished in 0:23 at Mon Jun 11 02:37:39 2012 DUMP: 44.21% done, finished in 0:18 at Mon Jun 11 02:38:07 2012 DUMP: 63.00% done, finished in 0:11 at Mon Jun 11 02:35:56 2012 DUMP: 83.78% done, finished in 0:04 at Mon Jun 11 02:34:02 2012 DUMP: DUMP: 34166302 tape blocks on 1 volume DUMP: finished in 1746 seconds, throughput 19568 KBytes/sec DUMP: level 0 dump on Mon Jun 11 02:04:01 2012 DUMP: Closing 2012.Jun.11.usr.dump DUMP: DUMP IS DONE 569586 /backup/Mon/root 34183010 /backup/Mon/usr 139058 /backup/Mon/var 34891656 /backup/Mon Disk unmounted. 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[91.216.237.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ie3sm16200265bkc.1.2012.06.11.05.31.43 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 11 Jun 2012 05:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FD5E52D.1060400@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:31:41 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120605 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org References: <4FD2E7EF.1060208@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: <4FD2E7EF.1060208@dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: prune ports tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:31:47 -0000 Gary Aitken wrote: > Is it possible to specify that parts of the ports tree should never be used? Personally I prefer downloading full tree and then adding to /usr/local/etc/ports.conf something like: lang/gcc46: IGNORE=lang/gcc should be used instead or net-p2p/*: IGNORE=server doesn't need this It's ports-mgmt/portconf configuration file. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 12:33:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617FD106566C for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:33:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baahaa3@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B7C8FC19 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:33:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhgm50 with SMTP id m50so2745226yhg.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 05:33:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rIHm3kNzJDuskEjrfzdDVFcdGT1Bw2uaDDHtgdhefIc=; b=funMrGz2whCMvRiP1j2Cj3AKYcfvu32TFt6JRnPbkb6qxUUlY/bPQCs3GFX7a0p1/a UHrDQqRLGM15sPfls9k2Xfv8zUlXT55HCvyoJTRMwCa6rEDK92AYU+zsEFKyYFVGjojd EJZWRlte0rxzeholyUXkDyjZ5zZWNvFwE3gwBXg9zG2Fs/0eupmu5GWRBX8+Ch02b3mN B6vVVf6vCP4q756aUDgbcyuDlfDq3y9S/jfRbpk8AFeqEM02vxLLvehwOnAid0br6rs8 ml4GuEbuLXMGwK0U8FkFPdeCnbRo2SHQf4k8vqmD23lucs4jgMok7TXX61PGHJiCkkZo x9Kg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.179.105 with SMTP id df9mr6245288igc.4.1339418030508; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 05:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.73.73 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 05:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:33:50 +0400 Message-ID: From: Bahaa Babekir To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:33:51 -0000 I want to sent me configuration to build mail server step by step -- bahaa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 14:21:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5527A106566C for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:21:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45238FC18 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbon10 with SMTP id n10so3465269lbo.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:21:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=oTgk0l/yvg0ONjDWfj/3bguZbcAkyb8xsPJvk8IjfhU=; b=NshXzPVgHeYBgzKyTnogEX9FxWtE9CK7F6X9N4wzz+DfBVfNuZZmtOMoVa0bmypO+d W6zzImN7fBp9+5iocZLM4VU17mSTxw2t0GvgmQh+j1DFBqKcoZLgKA/sQIea+Nb+QGAq SO2x891EeQjdOO25PGz58q45fvahuCf1tVwT+duUbJiNRwZL8pq8YBpjFeGy0XTzmwtD nnT8eplgA7v36gblWLp1GHKtdANpVHm8LySZy2DTyajxge18FN8Hw9e0D3j6dy+oUsPE kJNo7RaIP5JRnGk2oqY6mHY4E9r1NbZRB7YeOkOBAdW49VALlMoi6NULRAzK192u76JX TUGg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.125.236 with SMTP id mt12mr17327729lab.12.1339424473756; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.13.8 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:21:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [66.93.34.235] Received: by 10.114.13.8 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:21:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:21:13 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Brian W." To: Doug Hardie , FreeBSD Mailing List X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmFoIwSm50wlE7nGdT2SKVZGTm9X+yuOf/W0FwIj/fOd69UZSiof2/HeWKCou3osPad+lp+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Version Selection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:21:15 -0000 There are two advantages that come to mind quickly. With amd64 you could install more than 4 gigs of ram and have it recognized. With i386 if you need to do this pae would need to be installed, which FreeBSD doc pages say is if beta quality. I bet that amd64 will get more dev attention. On Jun 10, 2012 11:21 PM, "Doug Hardie" wrote: > I have a number of servers that I am about to upgrade to FreeBSD 9.0. The > processors all have the ability to run i386 or amd64. The machines all > have 2 GB memory which is more than adequate for their intended use. Some > of these are replacing very old equipment that is being retired and did not > have the ability to run amd64 so everything has been i386 till now. The > question is what are the advantages or disadvantages of switching to amd64? > I have tested all the various applications on amd64 and they work fine. > Is there going to be any benefit down the road in a few years to being on > amd64? If so, now would be the time to switch. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 14:28:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDE5106566B for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:28:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCA368FC08 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:28:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5BESotA083056; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:28:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5BESnqb083053; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:28:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:28:49 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <20437.57631.776197.982243@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Message-ID: References: <201206110559.q5B5x0Vu096317@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20437.57631.776197.982243@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:28:50 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: speed of "dump" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:28:51 -0000 On Mon, 11 Jun 2012, Robert Huff wrote: > > Another thread, which I seem to have lost, was talking about > dump and sizing its cache. > Per my promise, appended is the log of this morning's level 0 dump, > using C=32. THe system is -CURRENT from March, using AMD Phemon II > x4/3ghz and SATA 3gbit drives (one internal, one external.). > > DUMP: finished in 1746 seconds, throughput 19568 KBytes/sec Are you using -b64 ? That can make a serious throughput improvement over smaller values. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 14:45:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077DA1065673 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:45:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f170.google.com (mail-wi0-f170.google.com [209.85.212.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D39D8FC18 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:45:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhm6 with SMTP id hm6so3438524wib.1 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:45:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=yf6k7zSeokMiD4bX4YdEc4Qidna2qflr5+Ur369jLvc=; b=Wb+r4x5rctc9dCtFCojIxQgIuWsxGjyIWz/B1+2rBPEMq/uPz6uWPtUs3sBpl2iDdN X1kFRrV3pF+xYv02YbVY9SWYAHtcUwJRKpb7F6mTZ99FGaPWw4t3cSCTyca3krwr1IFb trFRI0RO3OppijRb7vcjM18L0mw1EmpqJXk4u5i6L+6roI9XZXxkQOsTalIAOSJxdLUg GZwMUOvTinobablKpbKIfY3hj9SD91VGYtZhemLdMqPZu7YoL48C/disDXb10HSAMrpY g949LGBrsuAUXvAhUCXKuaZtJQF6x8C85PQ7XJ6CWbeq59PZXcRJC9txgzhpz4i5WXN9 oIGA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.204.88 with SMTP id g66mr6734596weo.79.1339425925229; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.88.155 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:45:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20437.57631.776197.982243@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <201206110559.q5B5x0Vu096317@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20437.57631.776197.982243@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:45:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Robert Huff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: speed of "dump" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:45:32 -0000 On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Robert Huff wrote: > > DUMP: finished in 1746 seconds, throughput 19568 KBytes/sec > Looks like one of your disks must be USB. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 15:23:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5363D1065787 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:23:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C53D8FC16 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Se6Sj-0006M0-FF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:23:25 +0200 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:23:25 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:23:25 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:13.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/13.0) Subject: Re: xfce 4.10 update problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:23:32 -0000 Warren Block wonkity.com> writes: > ... > > - startx fails when moused enabled > > (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psm0 > > Device busy. > > (EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot open input device > > (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "PS/2 Mouse" > > (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) > > xinit: connection to X server lost > > > > Any known solutions ? > > Disable hal in xorg.conf, ServerLayout section: > > Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" OK, that's way to go. But there is something strange. I tried to fix the problem by disabling moused in /etc/rc.conf . After reboot, I could 'startx' X session. But 'ps' still showed moused processes: $ ps auxww |grep -i mouse root 1286 0.0 0.1 9716 1148 ?? Ss 8:55AM 0:01.02 /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/ums0 -t auto -I /var/run/moused.ums0.pid root 1888 0.0 0.1 9716 1144 ?? Is 8:55AM 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/psm0 -t auto root 2045 0.0 0.1 12340 2516 ?? I 8:55AM 0:00.01 hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/psm0 (hald-addon-mouse-sy) root 2065 0.0 0.1 12340 2520 ?? I 8:55AM 0:00.01 hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/ums0 (hald-addon-mouse-sy) jb 2262 0.0 0.1 9748 1284 2 S+ 9:03AM 0:00.01 grep -i mouse I tested it by rebooting 3 times. I have 2 mouses: Lenovo Thinkpad stick and external usb mouse. How to explain that? jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 15:37:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85011065670 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CDBB8FC24 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:37:42 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:Content-Type; bh=eoKqLjL/R9bhhjmpEBM7I159DCXSsnTXMQpZdOaXZGw=; b=S7Af+LyXffsaMO0mNPwyqXmBR0FObtw2kZc74TVUVFMPsfndOrg57+G9XIWRU+Q1xEJO3hCMIBrWkRKpmXLdvdKnVuuR2zaNo6CxJ/A3taUNnpoY9fgiCaBNvtoD64Qu; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Se6gT-000JFw-E3; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:37:41 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1339429051-26372-26371/5/64; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:37:31 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:37:30 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.64 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: jb Subject: Re: xfce 4.10 update problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:37:42 -0000 On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:22:51 -0500, jb wrote: > > I tested it by rebooting 3 times. > I have 2 mouses: Lenovo Thinkpad stick and external usb mouse. moused_nondefault_enable="NO" perhaps? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 16:02:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7E4106566B for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy5-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy5.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 113B68FC0A for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 31847 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jun 2012 16:02:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2012 16:02:46 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=GQ/2KOzqBkOByzMoQSvS6gCEsO1EcvcbHksPP2KPTxg=; b=VGD8Ldee9I9SyK4p758/YINL9kbBZLDr0tZbvaNTSCh4Az4Yei/BBZiOpfdH16giGr2qtxUBAhmIeOkfbwTdvWU81sG/gon676TqJnlGMe+5+Qkej0O1qEk03myZe9bC; Received: from [24.8.180.234] (port=63264 helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Se74n-0007AH-Ca for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:02:45 -0600 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:02:44 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <20120611160244.GB20613@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <0B9FF530-AAE8-4411-8B06-2AD5662CB803@my.gd> <20120609164855.GB31721@hemlock.hydra> <1D0D020B-1F05-4546-A15C-8A721C7BC4AC@my.gd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1D0D020B-1F05-4546-A15C-8A721C7BC4AC@my.gd> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:02:51 -0000 On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 03:27:25AM +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > > On 9 Jun 2012, at 18:48, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 11:42:37PM +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > >> > >> On 6 Jun 2012, at 21:52, Dave U. Random wrote: > >> > >>> Polytropon wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:47:11 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >>>>> Having to pay Verisign instead of Microsoft makes no difference: the > >>>>> point is why should I have to pay anything to a third party in order to > >>>>> run whatever OS I want on a piece of hardware I own? > >>> > >>> It's time to dump the Intel/Microshaft mafia forever. FreeBSD, OpenBSD, > >>> NetBSD, and even Linux have ports to many platforms. Why stay on Intel? It's > >>> an overgrown ugly mess. > >>> > >>> We need to stop buying Intel mafiaware with preinstalled Microshaft mafiware > >>> and run a free (or in the case of Linux "apparently free") OS on free > >>> hardware. > >>> > >>> There are increasing numbers of SBCs and plenty of used servers on > >>> Ebay. They're all built better than commodity Intel mafiaware. Good > >>> riddance! > >>> > >> > >> You have no idea what you're talking about. > >> > >> This kind of religious propaganda post is neither constructive nor > >> helpful. > > > > It should be noted that your tone is neither constructive nor helpful, to > > say nothing of your contentless response. Do you have anything useful to > > say in response to what Dave U. Random contributed -- perhaps a > > thoughtful refutation of some specific point(s)? I hope you have more of > > value to contribute than your obvious disdain for people who disagree > > with you about something (without even specifying on what points you > > disagree). > > > > -- > > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] > > > > If you had bothered to read all the other mails I've posted on this > very specific thread, you wouldn't need to ask the question. This has nothing to do with what I said. > > If you're going to participate in the Linux zealots' propaganda that > makes OSS defenders sound so ridiculous and delusional, so be it. I kinda wish you would respond to what I said, rather than to whatever persecution of you personally in which you imagine I have engaged. > > Fact is, if Microsoft didn't deliver acceptable products, people wouldn't use them. There are differing standards of acceptability, in many cases differentiated by the level of knowledge of circumstances on which a particular standard is founded. It is perfectly reasonable, in some cases at least, to question whether what many people consider "acceptable" when they are ignorant of salient facts is something that should, in fact, be regarded as "unacceptable", because people should be more aware of these facts. For instance, when someone plays a shell game for money, it is fraudulent to operate the game while not actually having a pea under one of the shells. People who are not aware of the fact they are being defrauded may consider the game "acceptable", and thus the operator of the game may still enjoy a steady flow of customers, but someone who knows the game operator is tricking people by removing or hiding the pea so that their guesses are always wrong can reasonably question the appropriateness of such a judgement of acceptability. > > Calling them a mafia is neither constructive (I invite you to look up > the word mafia in a thesaurus), nor backed up by actual facts. I never said anything about the language used. Your statement about the counterproductive use of exaggerative terms may accurate, but is quite irrelevant to what I said. > > OP is just going on a rampage about MS and intel. So, it seems, are you -- just from a different direction. The main differences appear to be the use of inflammatory terms and the fact that the other party, at least, is actually trying to address points others bring up, while you intermittently fail to do so in favor of simply attacking the person behind the comments made. > > You want to follow his advice and advocate the exclusive use of alpha > machines ? No. This has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. > > I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here. > No, I'm not gonna use alphas. > And no, I'm not going to let a random person (hey, choice words !) call > intel or MS a mafia just because he's on a zealot crusade. Great. Wonderful. Whatever. This has precisely zero to do with what I said. Perhaps you thought you were responding to someone else. > > Without MS (and IBM amongst others) it's possible that computing would > never have reached such an audience as it has. It's also possible that without MS (and IBM amongst others) it would have reached a broader audience in a much more functional form than its present reach. We can speculate at each other all day, and still not arrive at any statements of substance or identification of reasons you failed to actually say anything useful in the commentary of yours to which I previously responded. > > So I'm going with the (possibly false) assumption that without MS and > other major actors, not many people would use computers nowadays. While you are certainly welcome to operate on any assumptions you choose, I prefer to ignore such irrelevancies in circumstances like addressing the topic of the current discussion, and focus instead on what various parties are contributing (for good or ill) to the state of affairs in which we currently operate, and the likely consequences of such contributions in the foreseeable future. > > One might see MS as the ultimate evil, yet they're strongly implemented > in corporate IT. > One might wonder why, before engaging in a crusade, and brandishing > empty words as their weapons. One might also consider actually addressing what others say rather than simply dismissing their statements outright with counterproductive and contentless statements of derision, followed by flights of fantasy in which one speculates on whether Microsoft invented personal computing. > > I invite you to re-read OP's post and highlight what in "mafiaware", > "wintel" and "microshaft" you find constructive. I invite you to read what I said, stop imposing your own ridiculous misinterpretations on it, and actually answer what I said -- or to just state outright in clear and unequivocal terms that you are not interested in having anything particularly reminiscent of a productive discussion at all. Your attacks are against people's character and against straw men, rather than against the points people actually made. The form of a statement is not the same as its content, though you appear stubbornly unwilling to address content regardless of form. In fact, the form of my own statements was quite lacking in any inflammatory terms like "mafiaware" and "microshaft", and did not even express agreement or disagreement with anyone's substantive positions on things at all, but you have persisted in ignoring what I actually said in favor of attacking things I did not say, just as you chose to ignore the substantive position of Dave U. Random in favor of similarly pointless, meaningless commentary. "Wintel", by the way, is not an inflammatory term the way "mafiaware" and "microshaft" are. It is a reference to a long-standing market segment involving the marriage of Microsoft and Intel technologies to provide product lines intended to work together, and arose as shorthand jargon in the 1990s as used by computer repair technicians and professionals in related fields without any necessarily pejorative connotations. > > I also invite you to read all his points about why exactly intel is an > "overgrown ugly mess". > I regret to report I have found none, might you point them out for me ? Perhaps you should respond to him on that matter, rather than me, considering that my only commentary to you in this sub-discussion before this email was about how you might want to consider actually responding to his points rather than lobbing Molotov cocktails containing nothing but fuel and flame. > > Now, I shall leave you to read my other posts on this "secure boot" > topic, that you might quit claiming I have nothing to contribute. I didn't claim you have nothing to contribute. Once again, what you are attacking is not what I said. I simply claimed that your immediately previous comment in the relevant subthread was contentless. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 16:11:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08161065851 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:11:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 812C68FC19 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15359 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jun 2012 16:11:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2012 16:11:12 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=SVOeB1IrltOQixqX6rBq/CEAMKn7vC+iTTIV1xNbyj8=; b=A64eI6Td9SYQkQAnF4bX25r1HY691osXIoNidGoDxeeo6f0wv/M/1e7mqrXzuPIV6LznqDHJJhMvDEsHXaR7qJWYSFu6XLTFLwzRY4wRQ4cBvtLNda3DxS3MhGswLVa/; Received: from [24.8.180.234] (port=63390 helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Se7Cy-0003Rm-0O for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:11:12 -0600 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:11:11 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120611161111.GC20613@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <0B9FF530-AAE8-4411-8B06-2AD5662CB803@my.gd> <20120609164855.GB31721@hemlock.hydra> <1D0D020B-1F05-4546-A15C-8A721C7BC4AC@my.gd> <20120610072320.43359222@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120610072320.43359222@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:11:13 -0000 On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:23:20AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > > It is fairly easy to understand both sides in this discussion. When > Microsoft supporters refer to open-source software as "open-sore" or > "socialist-software" the FOSS community becomes enraged. However, when > the open-source community retaliates it is considered acceptable. Quite > frankly I read far more Microsoft based forums than open-source based > ones and I can say without a doubt, at least in my experience, > Microsoft proponents never attack open-source with the venomous hatred > that open-source attacks Microsoft. In fact, the majority of Microsoft > users that I know could not care less about what they consider an > overly burdensome (geeky) open-source operating system. > > The whole argument can probably be boiled do to this: > > Disparaging other operating systems (Microsoft) and pointing out its > failures is beneficial, constructive and therapeutic. Pointing out > problems and failures regarding your own OS is destructive and flame > bait. Perhaps you're spending too much time in the community venues of open source software projects. In communities devoted to use of software peddled by Microsoft, the reverse would be true, and this seems to me not the least bit surprising, or even particularly inappropriate. When you stroll into a venue where it can reasonably be assumed there is a general consensus position of favoring one thing over another (such as a sports bar in Colorado, which would likely favor the Broncos over the Raiders), then start loudly proclaiming the evils of the favored thing relative to the unfavored (such as talking about how much better the Raiders are than the Broncos, and how the Broncos fans are all a bunch of pansy whiners, as you tend to do about open source software users and advocates while you're hanging out here on a FreeBSD mailing list), what you are contributing to the discussion may quite understandably be called "flamebait". Expressing surprise that someone would apply such a label in these circumstances is, in my estimation, at least disingenuous if not wholly ludicrous, directly deceptive, and/or frankly dumb. I, for one, generally try to avoid saying nonfactually disparaging things about Microsoft or (especially) users of software peddled by Microsoft in venues like this mailing list, in part because it's a bit unsportsmanlike, and in part because it doesn't really contribute anything positive. It's kind of mind-boggling that people like you make no evident effort to avoid saying disparaging things about FreeBSD and its users in venues like this mailing list, where it's trollish, does not contribute anything positive, and directly offends large numbers of people subscribed to the list. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 16:43:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BCDD106564A for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:43:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DF068FC08 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:43:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2017 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jun 2012 16:43:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2012 16:43:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=6Qjy/ryKcDHnaYFWzj1croVQxMk958Fe1u6TsK655do=; b=AoanaF24X6/OFTDJqILFodRlv7+Od8yXIgvqeiPfbn/my9axnhJS6p7IWWeX6tUrFRgWCuWhaWdbxj7v797HVglcp+rpia4CmVdlGK+kQkc6Ad0EWMCZ35mDWU6SrJzB; Received: from [24.8.180.234] (port=61234 helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Se7i7-0004bm-8z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:43:23 -0600 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:43:22 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120611164322.GE20613@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: OT - enjoy it X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:43:24 -0000 On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 06:26:16AM +0000, jb wrote: > Chinese advertising of soccer championship Euro 2012 > > http://avaxnews.com/wow/Chinese_Advertising_UEFA_Euro_2012.html That . . . was nuts. What just happened? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 16:59:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6BF1065673 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:59:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gh0-f182.google.com (mail-gh0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839188FC17 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbz22 with SMTP id z22so3051543ghb.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:59:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=30cys6yms1EwqIeKjPY1K7R3Tx2zr2CxSZEGuzKKLcU=; b=E9Hj8ZxKNUx09pH+netZMJgfvVz5wq2oxmjpvPOGjRZolZsn587DByLHvNTX2iGiZU un7pXBCz/OEa4cHFjNhGTgjCtMNLNe+ThOUUUlgOV24Yqu0OetNtl0Mpm8jnUxjH1nrp Iu50UZAPKnK+3YCpcEBIPx0+ByTEmZnX7euQM= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=30cys6yms1EwqIeKjPY1K7R3Tx2zr2CxSZEGuzKKLcU=; b=ND9jBnpehQ9QUFNZYUHnolITmnEiNfKm5K6K27ze0A1wikeyGWHFEgWUW4vu8uHt2E As+CG/jBHU0FmP9LOAnkXKpaNtp7OHPMXHuWAYe9WvzAHa1Y+fEZbOxcYYnLWAxrPGUj arCicN1x8KFtOKiQhNDcXeHoEov/qgHx3f1HfZAN7bVFeNcSxsHXDbM3rdr/DdBZdIDr JpjghVjZtABWpnBBOCSPK1/bszLx1hSJcs+o8ixQZ+msDD+lXuMA9Z3iod1C/VSjA4FF DS2a5fMOEFIHLeT+HLmBjmWZ7rxebk+Q/MfyY3gLGM1OL8tbSCPwQdzoN16Oqxj15wIK e1BA== Received: by 10.236.73.136 with SMTP id v8mr21831201yhd.103.1339433989875; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z9sm57685489yhl.6.2012.06.11.09.59.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3WB0nt5cDLz2CG46 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:59:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:59:46 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120611125946.588e447e@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120611161111.GC20613@hemlock.hydra> References: <0B9FF530-AAE8-4411-8B06-2AD5662CB803@my.gd> <20120609164855.GB31721@hemlock.hydra> <1D0D020B-1F05-4546-A15C-8A721C7BC4AC@my.gd> <20120610072320.43359222@scorpio> <20120611161111.GC20613@hemlock.hydra> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnK8c88G2z6txA1IvsNCN68hDz0knYrOmdU85jqLA6AjGokOE+HrZlxoZT5RPkWNsdsG9w3 Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:59:51 -0000 On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:11:11 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated: >On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:23:20AM -0400, Jerry wrote: >> >> It is fairly easy to understand both sides in this discussion. When >> Microsoft supporters refer to open-source software as "open-sore" or >> "socialist-software" the FOSS community becomes enraged. However, >> when the open-source community retaliates it is considered >> acceptable. Quite frankly I read far more Microsoft based forums >> than open-source based ones and I can say without a doubt, at least >> in my experience, Microsoft proponents never attack open-source with >> the venomous hatred that open-source attacks Microsoft. In fact, the >> majority of Microsoft users that I know could not care less about >> what they consider an overly burdensome (geeky) open-source >> operating system. >> >> The whole argument can probably be boiled do to this: >> >> Disparaging other operating systems (Microsoft) and pointing out its >> failures is beneficial, constructive and therapeutic. Pointing out >> problems and failures regarding your own OS is destructive and flame >> bait. > >Perhaps you're spending too much time in the community venues of open >source software projects. In communities devoted to use of software >peddled by Microsoft, the reverse would be true, and this seems to me >not the least bit surprising, or even particularly inappropriate. >When you stroll into a venue where it can reasonably be assumed there >is a general consensus position of favoring one thing over another >(such as a sports bar in Colorado, which would likely favor the >Broncos over the Raiders), then start loudly proclaiming the evils of >the favored thing relative to the unfavored (such as talking about how >much better the Raiders are than the Broncos, and how the Broncos fans >are all a bunch of pansy whiners, as you tend to do about open source >software users and advocates while you're hanging out here on a >FreeBSD mailing list), what you are contributing to the discussion may >quite understandably be called "flamebait". Expressing surprise that >someone would apply such a label in these circumstances is, in my >estimation, at least disingenuous if not wholly ludicrous, directly >deceptive, and/or frankly dumb. Your paranoia is kicking in again isn't it Chad. Anyway, to address your sports analogy, if I walk into a NY City bar and enter into a discussion regarding the pros and cons of the Jets VS Giants, which in itself is ridiculous since neither is actually located in NY, and blatantly scream out that the (Jets of Giants -- you pick) are a bunch of mother-fucking, wife beating pedophiles, I think you would agree, unless you happen to belong to that group, that I have gone way over the top in my team assessment. There is a major difference between criticizing and defamation. Perhaps someday you will learn the difference. For the record, I have never heard of anyone using the term "mafia" while referring to the FOSS. Then again, the "Mafia" is a highly organized operation. I might also add that many people of Italian descent consider the term "mafia" offensive. >I, for one, generally try to avoid saying nonfactually disparaging >things about Microsoft or (especially) users of software peddled by >Microsoft in venues like this mailing list, in part because it's a bit >unsportsmanlike, and in part because it doesn't really contribute >anything positive. It's kind of mind-boggling that people like you >make no evident effort to avoid saying disparaging things about >FreeBSD and its users in venues like this mailing list, where it's >trollish, does not contribute anything positive, and directly offends >large numbers of people subscribed to the list. When was this election held Chad? I am referring to the one that appointed you list spokesperson. In any case, you make an interesting statement without offering any documentation. Are you a politician Chad? I was inquiring because you seem to like making sound bites sans substance. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 17:31:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B85F91065704 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:31:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E76F8FC21 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:31:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so2848815wer.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:31:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=jEIhgiC9jWpRKUzlx5v3Mqmbk4L7fatDpH6M2GaDxkc=; b=HHUFPIi5RP5fQMv095eptRXQqkqHbZ/b1mIJ/UWKIYDEXLpHoxdvXU3pSxkutwz5I2 VbJFCpMnWhGZ5iBmo4QOPVme7rzYx6Y+JwxdNhdYumEgtNkDRpFtV3+Ss4MmvEuVAN1D zICLBd2QPI2Dg+a/sBfQMIaNqFCuDV6k5ApS1fZx+Q/cSP1ypPufyVmZEvrFs/yKCSmZ ozgibgNzB5DNU8MJlX/yVYUjWwTLV3soCT8SDok4r3XXEQBC+S3y2KB4d/ytTwLjrAM/ vDY64pumt2HpZebrqNBD44sXZ1ikST1XUiHCVDbwmEuS/W45NkbMepA1WWMoAIIy5ezo wBsQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.83.196 with SMTP id s4mr22600249wiy.15.1339435912944; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.138.220 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:31:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201206110836.q5B8afiG036817@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <201206110836.q5B8afiG036817@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:31:52 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: USB 3.0 delay in 'detecting' attached drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:31:55 -0000 On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:36 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Waitman Gobble wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Julian H. Stacey > wrote: > > > > > Waitman Gobble wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Julian H. Stacey > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Waitman Gobble wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a new machine with 2 USB 3.0 ports and 2 USB 2.0 ports. > When I > > > > > plug > > > > > > a USB 3.0 drive / cable into the USB 3.0 port it takes about 70 > > > seconds > > > > > for > > > > > > the drive to show up, on the USB 2.0 port it's instantly. I > haven't > > > used > > > > > > USB 3.0 with FreeBSD so I'm not sure if this is expected or > maybe I > > > need > > > > > to > > > > > > reconfigure something or look at a different kernel config. > > > > > > > > > > Might be a marginal power issue. > > > > > USB 3 devices are allowed to consume 1.0 Amps. > > > > > USB2 ports only need provide 0.5. > > > > > > > > > > I have a tower wont recognise my USB disc on its USB2 ports. > > > > > On my new PCI express card in same tower, it comes up quickly. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Julian > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > Not sure if there's anything I can do about that. It's a new HP dv6 > > > laptop > > > > which according to box was mfg in May 2012... I would assume hardware > > > would > > > > be designed and put together properly. :) > > > > > > Sounds new enough :-) > > > > > > My USB3 disc on my newish laptop with USB 2 socket & 8.2 & 9.0 come > > > up fast enough, not noticed problems, not specificaly timed it though. > > > > > > Try external power if you have a socket on disk box ? > > > > > > Try disk on another known good FreeBSD USB3 card on a tower (my card > cost > > > 30 Euro BTW) > > > > > > Or try a power doubler cable (connected via a female to female > > > adapter, which Ive never seen on sale, I made my own by cutting up > > > a dead mainboard), to the USB 3 male to male cable. (for any who > > > dont know, cant omit that cable as USB3 socket on lapop size drives > > > is a different shape, flater, wider. > > > > > > I wonder if it might be taking time dropping back to USB2 speed. > > > if eg you don't have xhci in kernel ? > > > > > > I have all of > > > config -x/boot/kernel/kernel | grep hci > > > device uhci > > > device ohci > > > device xhci > > > device ehci > > > I just havent taken some out yet. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Julian > > > I believe it uses ohci for usb 2.0, > > I doubt that. > > > xhci for 3.0, > > Yes > > > ehci for 1.0 > > No > > > Reading manuals: > ehci : for a controller chip that Only does USB 2.0, not 1.0 > ohci : OHCI v1.0 USB1 > uhci : UHCI v1.1 USB1 > xhci : USB 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 > > > (which I > > suppose might be connected to some device internally even if you do not > > have 1.0 port?) > > > > I originally built this system on a different machine, with different > > hardware, but it really shouldn't make a different AFAIK. > > .. But I did just csup and rebuild everything on the laptop... i needed > to > > build some devices into the kernel anyhow, and NOW the usb 3.0 connect > is > > instantly, there is now no 70 second delay. > > Good. BTW I'd not considered you might be seeing something on current, > as this questions@ was originaly created for people new to FreeBSD > Machine my end was 8.3-RELEASE. The current@ list would know if xhci > was problematic. > > > I'd have to check, maybe there > > was a change in xhci between June 2 and today which could have caused the > > issue. Or it was just a 'weird harold' event, for some reason it just > felt > > like sitting there a minute. > > > > Thanks for your help, > > :-) > > Cheers, > Julian > -- > Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich > http://berklix.com > Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". > Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, > quoted-printable. > Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ > Hi, thanks - good point. maybe even freebsd-usb group would be better. i'll see if it happens again and post in there. Waitman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 17:32:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F90106566B for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:32:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 596578FC14 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q5BHWOJA030727 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:32:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FD62BA8.7030702@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:32:24 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120609 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:32:25 -0600 (MDT) Subject: mysqld startup issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:32:31 -0000 I've done the following after having a running system with a running mysql on it: moved user accounts, although no logical move: /usr/home/foo was => /hd1/foo now /usr/home => /hd1/home and /hd1/foo is now /hd1/home/foo repartitioned the SSD and restored the system from a dump taken prior to repartitioning. removed all ports and reinstalled them Unfortunately, mysqld won't start: 120611 10:55:52 [Warning] Can't create test file /var/db/mysql/breakaway.lower-test 120611 10:55:52 [Warning] Can't create test file /var/db/mysql/breakaway.lower-test mysqld: Table 'mysql.plugin' doesn't exist 120611 10:55:52 [ERROR] Can't open the mysql.plugin table. Please run mysql_upgrade to create it. 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: The InnoDB memory heap is disabled 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Mutexes and rw_locks use GCC atomic builtins 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Compressed tables use zlib 1.2.5 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Initializing buffer pool, size = 128.0M 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Completed initialization of buffer pool 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Operating system error number 13 in a file operation. InnoDB: The error means mysqld does not have the access rights to InnoDB: the directory. InnoDB: File name ./ibdata1 InnoDB: File operation call: 'create'. InnoDB: Cannot continue operation. Running mysqld --verbose shows: basedir /usr/local general-log-file /var/db/mysql/breakaway.log ls -aol /usr/local/libexec/mysqld -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel - 9558944 Jun 11 10:40 /usr/local/libexec/mysqld ls -dl /var/db/mysql drwxr-xr-x 2 mysql mysql 512 Jun 11 10:31 /var/db/mysql cd / find . -ls | grep my.cnf shows nothing. This looks like some kind of access / setuid problem, but I'm not sure what. Suggestions? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 17:44:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8D6106566B for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:44:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy6.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A8F88FC0C for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15436 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jun 2012 17:44:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2012 17:44:12 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=iMUhOW8jdbvr/Y8E3wlPTLGScTBay/nw5nHLccWVkO4=; b=avrvzXMBqde69J0x6osa3EYc44xO2+sZAuGWjRjjZBZCdujaz7M4l1BY5rQxye2PBBEpOu8tzKYMernJ6RwQ2vtzEJmrPv09fxnkuJMZWeIW6wxd2RajwFMIftU65B7C; Received: from [24.8.180.234] (port=61167 helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Se8ex-0005fd-Kh for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:44:11 -0600 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:44:11 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120611174411.GA9858@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <0B9FF530-AAE8-4411-8B06-2AD5662CB803@my.gd> <20120609164855.GB31721@hemlock.hydra> <1D0D020B-1F05-4546-A15C-8A721C7BC4AC@my.gd> <20120610072320.43359222@scorpio> <20120611161111.GC20613@hemlock.hydra> <20120611125946.588e447e@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120611125946.588e447e@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:44:13 -0000 On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:59:46PM -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:11:11 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated: > > >On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:23:20AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > >> > >> It is fairly easy to understand both sides in this discussion. When > >> Microsoft supporters refer to open-source software as "open-sore" or > >> "socialist-software" the FOSS community becomes enraged. However, > >> when the open-source community retaliates it is considered > >> acceptable. Quite frankly I read far more Microsoft based forums > >> than open-source based ones and I can say without a doubt, at least > >> in my experience, Microsoft proponents never attack open-source with > >> the venomous hatred that open-source attacks Microsoft. In fact, the > >> majority of Microsoft users that I know could not care less about > >> what they consider an overly burdensome (geeky) open-source > >> operating system. > >> > >> The whole argument can probably be boiled do to this: > >> > >> Disparaging other operating systems (Microsoft) and pointing out its > >> failures is beneficial, constructive and therapeutic. Pointing out > >> problems and failures regarding your own OS is destructive and flame > >> bait. > > > >Perhaps you're spending too much time in the community venues of open > >source software projects. In communities devoted to use of software > >peddled by Microsoft, the reverse would be true, and this seems to me > >not the least bit surprising, or even particularly inappropriate. > >When you stroll into a venue where it can reasonably be assumed there > >is a general consensus position of favoring one thing over another > >(such as a sports bar in Colorado, which would likely favor the > >Broncos over the Raiders), then start loudly proclaiming the evils of > >the favored thing relative to the unfavored (such as talking about how > >much better the Raiders are than the Broncos, and how the Broncos fans > >are all a bunch of pansy whiners, as you tend to do about open source > >software users and advocates while you're hanging out here on a > >FreeBSD mailing list), what you are contributing to the discussion may > >quite understandably be called "flamebait". Expressing surprise that > >someone would apply such a label in these circumstances is, in my > >estimation, at least disingenuous if not wholly ludicrous, directly > >deceptive, and/or frankly dumb. > > Your paranoia is kicking in again isn't it Chad. Anyway, to address > your sports analogy, if I walk into a NY City bar and enter into a > discussion regarding the pros and cons of the Jets VS Giants, which in > itself is ridiculous since neither is actually located in NY, and > blatantly scream out that the (Jets of Giants -- you pick) are a bunch > of mother-fucking, wife beating pedophiles, I think you would agree, > unless you happen to belong to that group, that I have gone way over > the top in my team assessment. There is a major difference between > criticizing and defamation. Perhaps someday you will learn the > difference. For the record, I have never heard of anyone using the term > "mafia" while referring to the FOSS. Then again, the "Mafia" is a > highly organized operation. I might also add that many people of > Italian descent consider the term "mafia" offensive. I'm going to actually ignore your completely irrelevant and hilariously unfounded attempt at psychiatric diagnosis beyond this sentence, and get to the point: Ignoring for the moment http://linuxmafia.com it is true that I have generally not heard of open source software or its community referred to as "mafia", but I have heard of such things referred to as being socialist, fascist, or otherwise pejoratively accused of inapplicable political, criminal, or generally objectionable (in at least someone's eyes) character. Three guesses who comes first to mind as having made such statements, and the first two guesses don't count. > > > >I, for one, generally try to avoid saying nonfactually disparaging > >things about Microsoft or (especially) users of software peddled by > >Microsoft in venues like this mailing list, in part because it's a bit > >unsportsmanlike, and in part because it doesn't really contribute > >anything positive. It's kind of mind-boggling that people like you > >make no evident effort to avoid saying disparaging things about > >FreeBSD and its users in venues like this mailing list, where it's > >trollish, does not contribute anything positive, and directly offends > >large numbers of people subscribed to the list. > > When was this election held Chad? I am referring to the one that > appointed you list spokesperson. In any case, you make an interesting > statement without offering any documentation. Are you a politician > Chad? I was inquiring because you seem to like making sound bites sans > substance. I referred to no election. I am not list spokesperson, nor do I pretend to be or act as one, any more than you are the spokesperson for capitalism. I'm simply pointing out that you are an insufferable, trollish jackass, initially in a polite manner. The fact you avoid actually engaging my points, in favor of simply bleating about transgressions I haven't even made, does a fairly good job of supporting my statements. The only good things I can say about you at this point are that: A. your email reply scaffolding does not reproduce people's email addresses in a manner that will end up on Web archives of the list, unlike some people B. your command of the English language is not atrocious C. you sometimes keep your virtual mouth shut -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 17:44:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA13106566B for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:44:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from hermes.ime.usp.br (hermes.ime.usp.br [143.107.45.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5578FC16 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:44:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arachne.ime.usp.br (arachne.ime.usp.br [143.107.45.22]) by hermes.ime.usp.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id C496180007051 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:36:51 -0300 (BRT) Received: by arachne.ime.usp.br (Postfix, from userid 112) id A4B9036D6001; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:37:01 -0300 (BRT) Received: from b120ff62.virtua.com.br (b120ff62.virtua.com.br [177.32.255.98]) by webmail.ime.usp.br (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:37:01 -0300 Message-ID: <20120611143701.11724sznswthz2kd@webmail.ime.usp.br> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:37:01 -0300 From: schultz@ime.usp.br To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.10) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on hermes.ime.usp.br Subject: Dedicated pointing device for a Xephyr instance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:44:18 -0000 Hi, I have a Xorg server (x11-servers/xorg-server) running receiving input from a synaptics touchpad at /dev/psm0. I would like to run a Xephyr (x11-servers/xephyr) instance in this server that would take input from a different, dedicated pointing device, in this case a USB mouse at /dev/ums0. The Xephyr help mentions a -mouse option. I have searched a lot on the internet about this and even tried to read the relevant part of Xephyr's source code. While I could not understand the overall structure of that code, I noticed no relevant KdPointerDriver structure. It also seems that is possible on Linux with a evdev driver. Is it also possible on FreeBSD? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 18:37:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F30106564A for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:37:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subhro@80386.org) Received: from oproxy9.bluehost.com (oproxy9.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CCF5C8FC16 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:37:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29039 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jun 2012 18:37:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box761.bluehost.com) (66.147.244.61) by oproxy9.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2012 18:37:13 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=80386.org; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject; bh=FuFwMP2lM+Lwfof/1qGgU112pbkD6+k1i7FYJDqZRf4=; b=1anuSI6s8GOiPafTGgkQTtCq4+972dBUUSJvdCjL8Dib0344kSvzqfZIrOhDgUMO08wxEpwKMqNbJNpudlDZrEkx7Yg4LFAR6/JGSAWKWLxAcNXs4/Z27jCSENE1mQIy; Received: from [117.194.35.27] (port=59048 helo=[192.168.1.4]) by box761.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Se9UE-0008FW-WD; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:37:13 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Subhro Sankha Kar In-Reply-To: <20120611113135.GA99238@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:07:06 +0530 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20120611113135.GA99238@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: Anton Shterenlikht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Identified-User: {1190:box761.bluehost.com:pixelpa2:80386.org} {sentby:smtp auth 117.194.35.27 authed with subhro@80386.org} Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't kill -9 Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:37:14 -0000 Hello What happens if you run without a xorg.conf? Xorg has become pretty good = at guessing correct settings these days. Thanks -- Subhro Sankha Kar System Administrator Working and Playing with FreeBSD since 2002 On 11-Jun-2012, at 5:01 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > My X is unusable since the recent png update. >=20 > This is r236740M on HP Compaq 6715s amd64 laptop. >=20 > I've no hal installed (if this matters). >=20 > # pkg info -x xorg > linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 10) > xorg-cf-files-1.0.4 X.org cf files for use with imake = builds > xorg-fonts-7.5.1 X.org fonts meta-port > xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.5.1 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts > xorg-fonts-75dpi-7.5.1 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts > xorg-fonts-cyrillic-7.5.1 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts > xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-7.5.1 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts > xorg-fonts-truetype-7.5.1 X.Org TrueType fonts > xorg-fonts-type1-7.5.1 X.Org Type1 fonts > xorg-libraries-7.5.1 X.org libraries meta-port > xorg-macros-1.16.1 X.Org development aclocal macros > xorg-server-1.7.7_5,1 X.Org X server and related programs > #=20 >=20 > # pkg info -x xf86 > libXxf86dga-1.1.2 X DGA Extension > libXxf86misc-1.0.3 X XF86-Misc Extension > libXxf86vm-1.1.1 X Vidmode Extension > xf86-input-keyboard-1.6.1 X.Org keyboard input driver > xf86-input-mouse-1.7.1 X.Org mouse input driver > xf86-video-ati-6.14.3_1 X.Org ati display driver > xf86bigfontproto-1.2.0 XFree86-Bigfont extension headers > xf86dgaproto-2.1 XFree86-DGA extension headers > xf86driproto-2.1.1 XFree86-DRI extension headers > xf86miscproto-0.9.3 XFree86-Misc extension headers > xf86vidmodeproto-2.3.1 XFree86-VidModeExtension extension = headers > #=20 >=20 > My xorg.conf.new: >=20 >=20 > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "X.org Configured" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > Option "AllowEmptyInput" "Off" > EndSection >=20 > Section "Files" > ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" > EndSection >=20 > Section "Module" > Load "extmod" > Load "record" > Load "dbe" > Load "glx" > Load "dri" > Load "dri2" > EndSection >=20 > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" > EndSection >=20 > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" > EndSection >=20 > Section "Monitor" > #DisplaySize 330 210 # mm > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "LPL" > ModelName "d600" > EndSection >=20 > Section "Device" > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "radeon" > VendorName "Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI" > BoardName "RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]" > BusID "PCI:1:5:0" > Option "int10" "on" > Option "BusType" "PCIE" > Option "RenderAccel" "on" > Option "AccelMethod" "xaa" > Option "DynamicPM" "on" > Option "DRI" "on" > EndSection >=20 > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Card0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 1 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 4 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 8 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 15 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 16 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > EndSubSection > EndSection >=20 >=20 > The Xorg.0.log: >=20 >=20 >=20 > X.Org X Server 1.7.7 > Release Date: 2010-05-04 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64=20 > Current Operating System: FreeBSD mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk = 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r236740M: Sat Jun 9 22:35:49 BST = 2012 root@mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUZI = amd64 > Build Date: 11 June 2012 12:11:20PM >=20 > Current version of pixman: 0.24.2 > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org > to make sure that you have the latest version. > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (=3D=3D) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (=3D=3D) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Jun 11 12:24:08 = 2012 > (++) Using config file: "/root/xorg.conf.new" > (=3D=3D) ServerLayout "X.org Configured" > (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) > (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" > (**) | |-->Device "Card0" > (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" > (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" > (**) Option "AllowEmptyInput" "Off" > (=3D=3D) Not automatically adding devices > (=3D=3D) Not automatically enabling devices > (**) FontPath set to: > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ > (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" > (II) Loader magic: 0x7bd3c0 > (II) Module ABI versions: > X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 > X.Org Video Driver: 6.0 > X.Org XInput driver : 7.0 > X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 > (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) > (--) using VT number 9 >=20 > (--) PCI:*(0:1:5:0) 1002:791f:103c:30c2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] = nee ATI RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series] rev 0, Mem @ 0xc0000000/134217728, = 0xd0200000/65536, 0xd0300000/1048576, I/O @ 0x00004000/256, BIOS @ = 0x????????/65536 > (II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also = specified in the config file. > (II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also = specified in the config file. > (II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also = specified in the config file. > (II) "record" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also = specified in the config file. > (II) "dri" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also = specified in the config file. > (II) "dri2" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also = specified in the config file. > (II) LoadModule: "extmod" > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so > (II) Module extmod: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 > (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER > (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension > (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA > (II) Loading extension DPMS > (II) Loading extension XVideo > (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation > (II) Loading extension X-Resource > (II) LoadModule: "record" > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so > (II) Module record: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.13.0 > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 > (II) Loading extension RECORD > (II) LoadModule: "dbe" > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so > (II) Module dbe: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 > (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER > (II) LoadModule: "glx" > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so > (II) Module glx: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 > (=3D=3D) AIGLX disabled > (II) Loading extension GLX > (II) LoadModule: "dri" > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so > (II) Module dri: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 > (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI > (II) LoadModule: "dri2" > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so > (II) Module dri2: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.1.0 > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 > (II) Loading extension DRI2 > (II) LoadModule: "radeon" > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so > (II) Module radeon: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 6.14.3 > Module class: X.Org Video Driver > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 > (II) LoadModule: "mouse" > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so > (II) Module mouse: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.7.1 > Module class: X.Org XInput Driver > ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0 > (II) LoadModule: "kbd" > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so > (II) Module kbd: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.6.1 > Module class: X.Org XInput Driver > ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0 > (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: > ATI Radeon Mobility X600 (M24) 3150 (PCIE), ATI FireMV 2400 = (PCI), > ATI Radeon Mobility X300 (M24) 3152 (PCIE), > ATI FireGL M24 GL 3154 (PCIE), ATI FireMV 2400 3155 (PCI), > ATI Radeon X600 (RV380) 3E50 (PCIE), > ATI FireGL V3200 (RV380) 3E54 (PCIE), ATI Radeon IGP320 (A3) = 4136, > ATI Radeon IGP330/340/350 (A4) 4137, ATI Radeon 9500 AD (AGP), > ATI Radeon 9500 AE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600TX AF (AGP), > ATI FireGL Z1 AG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800SE AH (AGP), > ATI Radeon 9800 AI (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800 AJ (AGP), > ATI FireGL X2 AK (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600 AP (AGP), > ATI Radeon 9600SE AQ (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600XT AR (AGP), > ATI Radeon 9600 AS (AGP), ATI FireGL T2 AT (AGP), ATI Radeon = 9650, > ATI FireGL RV360 AV (AGP), ATI Radeon 7000 IGP (A4+) 4237, > ATI Radeon 8500 AIW BB (AGP), ATI Radeon IGP320M (U1) 4336, > ATI Radeon IGP330M/340M/350M (U2) 4337, > ATI Radeon Mobility 7000 IGP 4437, ATI Radeon 9000/PRO If = (AGP/PCI), > ATI Radeon 9000 Ig (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JH (AGP), > ATI Radeon X800PRO (R420) JI (AGP), > ATI Radeon X800SE (R420) JJ (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JK = (AGP), > ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JL (AGP), ATI FireGL X3 (R420) JM (AGP), > ATI Radeon Mobility 9800 (M18) JN (AGP), > ATI Radeon X800 SE (R420) (AGP), ATI Radeon X800XT (R420) JP = (AGP), > ATI Radeon X800 VE (R420) JT (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 (R480) = (AGP), > ATI Radeon X850 XT (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 SE (R480) = (AGP), > ATI Radeon X850 PRO (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 XT PE (R480) = (AGP), > ATI Radeon Mobility M7 LW (AGP), > ATI Mobility FireGL 7800 M7 LX (AGP), > ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LZ = (AGP), > ATI FireGL Mobility 9000 (M9) Ld (AGP), > ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP), > ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lg (AGP), ATI Radeon 9700 Pro ND = (AGP), > ATI Radeon 9700/9500Pro NE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600TX NF (AGP), > ATI FireGL X1 NG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800PRO NH (AGP), > ATI Radeon 9800 NI (AGP), ATI FireGL X2 NK (AGP), > ATI Radeon 9800XT NJ (AGP), > ATI Radeon Mobility 9600/9700 (M10/M11) NP (AGP), > ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NQ (AGP), > ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M11) NR (AGP), > ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NS (AGP), > ATI FireGL Mobility T2 (M10) NT (AGP), > ATI FireGL Mobility T2e (M11) NV (AGP), ATI Radeon QD (AGP), > ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP), > ATI FireGL 8700/8800 QH (AGP), ATI Radeon 8500 QL (AGP), > ATI Radeon 9100 QM (AGP), ATI Radeon 7500 QW (AGP/PCI), > ATI Radeon 7500 QX (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon VE/7000 QY (AGP/PCI), > ATI Radeon VE/7000 QZ (AGP/PCI), ATI ES1000 515E (PCI), > ATI Radeon Mobility X300 (M22) 5460 (PCIE), > ATI Radeon Mobility X600 SE (M24C) 5462 (PCIE), > ATI FireGL M22 GL 5464 (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 (R423) UH (PCIE), > ATI Radeon X800PRO (R423) UI (PCIE), > ATI Radeon X800LE (R423) UJ (PCIE), > ATI Radeon X800SE (R423) UK (PCIE), > ATI Radeon X800 XTP (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 XL (R430) = (PCIE), > ATI Radeon X800 SE (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 (R430) (PCIE), > ATI FireGL V7100 (R423) (PCIE), ATI FireGL V5100 (R423) UQ = (PCIE), > ATI FireGL unknown (R423) UR (PCIE), > ATI FireGL unknown (R423) UT (PCIE), > ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 (M26) (PCIE), > ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 (M26) (PCIE), > ATI Mobility Radeon X700 XL (M26) (PCIE), > ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE), > ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE), > ATI Radeon X550XTX 5657 (PCIE), ATI Radeon 9100 IGP (A5) 5834, > ATI Radeon Mobility 9100 IGP (U3) 5835, > ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5954 (PCIE), > ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE), ATI Radeon 9250 5960 (AGP), > ATI Radeon 9200 5961 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9200 5962 (AGP), > ATI Radeon 9200SE 5964 (AGP), ATI FireMV 2200 (PCI), > ATI ES1000 5969 (PCI), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5974 (PCIE), > ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5975 (PCIE), > ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A41 (PCIE), > ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A42 (PCIE), > ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A61 (PCIE), > ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A62 (PCIE), > ATI Radeon X300 (RV370) 5B60 (PCIE), > ATI Radeon X600 (RV370) 5B62 (PCIE), > ATI Radeon X550 (RV370) 5B63 (PCIE), > ATI FireGL V3100 (RV370) 5B64 (PCIE), > ATI FireMV 2200 PCIE (RV370) 5B65 (PCIE), > ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C61 (AGP), > ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C63 (AGP), > ATI Mobility Radeon X800 XT (M28) (PCIE), > ATI Mobility FireGL V5100 (M28) (PCIE), > ATI Mobility Radeon X800 (M28) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 5D4C = (PCIE), > ATI Radeon X850 XT PE (R480) (PCIE), > ATI Radeon X850 SE (R480) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 PRO (R480) = (PCIE), > ATI unknown Radeon / FireGL (R480) 5D50 (PCIE), > ATI Radeon X850 XT (R480) (PCIE), > ATI Radeon X800XT (R423) 5D57 (PCIE), > ATI FireGL V5000 (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 XT (RV410) = (PCIE), > ATI Radeon X700 PRO (RV410) (PCIE), > ATI Radeon X700 SE (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 (RV410) = (PCIE), > ATI Radeon X700 SE (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X1800, > ATI Mobility Radeon X1800 XT, ATI Mobility Radeon X1800, > ATI Mobility FireGL V7200, ATI FireGL V7200, ATI FireGL V5300, > ATI Mobility FireGL V7100, ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800, > ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800, > ATI FireGL V7300, ATI FireGL V7350, ATI Radeon X1600, ATI RV505, > ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Radeon X1550, ATI M54-GL, > ATI Mobility Radeon X1400, ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, > ATI Radeon X1550 64-bit, ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, > ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, > ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1300, > ATI RV505, ATI RV505, ATI FireGL V3300, ATI FireGL V3350, > ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1550 64-bit, ATI Radeon = X1300/X1550, > ATI Radeon X1600, ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Mobility Radeon = X1450, > ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Mobility Radeon X2300, > ATI Mobility Radeon X2300, ATI Mobility Radeon X1350, > ATI Mobility Radeon X1350, ATI Mobility Radeon X1450, > ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1550, ATI Mobility Radeon X1350, > ATI FireMV 2250, ATI Radeon X1550 64-bit, ATI Radeon X1600, > ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1600, ATI Radeon X1600, > ATI Mobility FireGL V5200, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600, > ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1600, > ATI Radeon X1300 XT/X1600 Pro, ATI FireGL V3400, > ATI Mobility FireGL V5250, ATI Mobility Radeon X1700, > ATI Mobility Radeon X1700 XT, ATI FireGL V5200, > ATI Mobility Radeon X1700, ATI Radeon X2300HD, > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2300, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2300, > ATI Radeon X1950, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1950, > ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, > ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, > ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, > ATI AMD Stream Processor, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1950, > ATI RV560, ATI RV560, ATI Mobility Radeon X1900, ATI RV560, > ATI Radeon X1950 GT, ATI RV570, ATI RV570, ATI FireGL V7400, > ATI RV560, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI RV560, > ATI Radeon 9100 PRO IGP 7834, ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 IGP 7835, > ATI Radeon X1200, ATI Radeon X1200, ATI Radeon X1200, > ATI Radeon X1200, ATI Radeon X1200, ATI RS740, ATI RS740M, ATI = RS740, > ATI RS740M, ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, > ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2900 Pro, ATI Radeon HD = 2900 GT, > ATI FireGL V8650, ATI FireGL V8600, ATI FireGL V7600, > ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4870 x2, > ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4850 x2, > ATI FirePro V8750 (FireGL), ATI FirePro V7760 (FireGL), > ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4850, ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4850 X2, > ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI FirePro RV770, AMD FireStream 9270, > AMD FireStream 9250, ATI FirePro V8700 (FireGL), > ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4870, ATI Mobility RADEON M98, > ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4870, ATI Radeon 4800 Series, > ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI FirePro M7750, ATI M98, ATI M98, ATI = M98, > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650, ATI Radeon RV730 (AGP), > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670, ATI FirePro M5750, > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670, ATI Radeon RV730 (AGP), > ATI RV730XT [Radeon HD 4670], ATI RADEON E4600, > ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series, ATI RV730 PRO [Radeon HD 4650], > ATI FirePro V7750 (FireGL), ATI FirePro V5700 (FireGL), > ATI FirePro V3750 (FireGL), ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4830, > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4850, ATI FirePro M7740, ATI RV740, > ATI Radeon HD 4770, ATI Radeon HD 4700 Series, ATI Radeon HD = 4770, > ATI FirePro M5750, ATI RV610, ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT, > ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro, ATI Radeon HD 2400 PRO AGP, ATI FireGL = V4000, > ATI RV610, ATI Radeon HD 2350, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400 XT, > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400, ATI RADEON E2400, ATI RV610, > ATI FireMV 2260, ATI RV670, ATI Radeon HD3870, > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850, ATI Radeon HD3850, > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850 X2, ATI RV670, > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2, > ATI Radeon HD3870 X2, ATI FireGL V7700, ATI Radeon HD3850, > ATI Radeon HD3690, AMD Firestream 9170, ATI Radeon HD 4550, > ATI Radeon RV710, ATI Radeon RV710, ATI Radeon RV710, > ATI Radeon HD 4350, ATI Mobility Radeon 4300 Series, > ATI Mobility Radeon 4500 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon 4500 = Series, > ATI FirePro RG220, ATI Mobility Radeon 4330, ATI RV630, > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT, > ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT AGP, ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro AGP, > ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro, ATI Gemini RV630, > ATI Gemini Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT, ATI FireGL V5600, > ATI FireGL V3600, ATI Radeon HD 2600 LE, > ATI Mobility FireGL Graphics Processor, ATI Radeon HD 3470, > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3430, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series, > ATI Radeon HD 3450, ATI Radeon HD 3450, ATI Radeon HD 3430, > ATI Radeon HD 3450, ATI FirePro V3700, ATI FireMV 2450, > ATI FireMV 2260, ATI FireMV 2260, ATI Radeon HD 3600 Series, > ATI Radeon HD 3650 AGP, ATI Radeon HD 3600 PRO, > ATI Radeon HD 3600 XT, ATI Radeon HD 3600 PRO, > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3670, > ATI Mobility FireGL V5700, ATI Mobility FireGL V5725, > ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics, ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics, > ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics, ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics, > ATI Radeon HD 3300 Graphics, ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics, > ATI Radeon 3000 Graphics, SUMO, SUMO, SUMO2, SUMO2, SUMO2, = SUMO2, > SUMO, SUMO, SUMO, SUMO, SUMO, ATI Radeon HD 4200, ATI Radeon = 4100, > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200, ATI Mobility Radeon 4100, > ATI Radeon HD 4290, ATI Radeon HD 4250, AMD Radeon HD 6310 = Graphics, > AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics, AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics, > AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics, AMD Radeon HD 6300 Series Graphics, > AMD Radeon HD 6200 Series Graphics, CYPRESS, > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, AMD Firestream 9370, > AMD Firestream 9350, ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, > ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, > ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series, > ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series, > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series, > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, > ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 6700 Series, > ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 6700 Series, > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5570, > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, ATI Radeon HD 5670, > ATI Radeon HD 5570, ATI Radeon HD 5500 Series, REDWOOD, > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon = Graphics, > ATI Mobility Radeon Graphics, CEDAR, > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, ATI FirePro 2270, CEDAR, > ATI Radeon HD 5450, CEDAR, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, = CAYMAN, > CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, AMD Radeon HD 6900 = Series, > AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, > AMD Radeon HD 6900M Series, Mobility Radeon HD 6000 Series, = BARTS, > BARTS, Mobility Radeon HD 6000 Series, > Mobility Radeon HD 6000 Series, BARTS, BARTS, BARTS, BARTS, > AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series, AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series, > AMD Radeon HD 6700 Series, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, = TURKS, > TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, CAICOS, > CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, > CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS > (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01@00:05:0 > (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support > (II) RADEON(0): TOTO SAYS 00000000d0200000 > (II) RADEON(0): MMIO registers at 0x00000000d0200000: size 64KB > (II) RADEON(0): PCI bus 1 card 5 func 0 > (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 > (II) RADEON(0): Pixel depth =3D 24 bits stored in 4 bytes (32 bpp = pixmaps) > (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): Default visual is TrueColor > (**) RADEON(0): Option "BusType" "PCIE" > (**) RADEON(0): Option "RenderAccel" "on" > (**) RADEON(0): Option "AccelMethod" "xaa" > (**) RADEON(0): Option "DRI" "on" > (**) RADEON(0): Option "Int10" "on" > (**) RADEON(0): Option "DynamicPM" "on" > (II) Loading sub module "vgahw" > (II) LoadModule: "vgahw" > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libvgahw.so > (II) Module vgahw: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 0.1.0 > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 > (II) RADEON(0): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp->IOBase is 0x03d0, hwp->PIOOffset = is 0x0000 > (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): RGB weight 888 > (II) RADEON(0): Using 8 bits per RGB (8 bit DAC) > (--) RADEON(0): Chipset: "ATI Radeon X1200" (ChipID =3D 0x791f) > (--) RADEON(0): Linear framebuffer at 0x00000000c0000000 > (II) RADEON(0): PCI card detected > (**) RADEON(0): Forced into PCI mode > (II) Loading sub module "int10" > (II) LoadModule: "int10" > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libint10.so > (II) Module int10: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 > (II) RADEON(0): initializing int10 > (**) RADEON(0): Option "int10" "on" > (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x20000) was = already clear > (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xc0000,0x40000) was = already clear > (II) RADEON(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 > (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already = clear > (II) RADEON(0): ATOM BIOS detected > (II) RADEON(0): ATOM BIOS Rom:=20 > SubsystemVendorID: 0x1002 SubsystemID: 0x791f > IOBaseAddress: 0x4000 > Filename: br23883.bin=20 > BIOS Bootup Message:=20 > ATI Radeon Xpress ?1250? for HP_TT = =20 >=20 > (II) RADEON(0): Framebuffer space used by Firmware (kb): 20 > (II) RADEON(0): Start of VRAM area used by Firmware: 0x7ffb000 > (II) RADEON(0): AtomBIOS requests 20kB of VRAM scratch space > (II) RADEON(0): AtomBIOS VRAM scratch base: 0x7ffb000 > (II) RADEON(0): Cannot get VRAM scratch space. Allocating in main = memory instead > (II) RADEON(0): Default Engine Clock: 400000 > (II) RADEON(0): Default Memory Clock: 200000 > (II) RADEON(0): Maximum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Output: 1200000 > (II) RADEON(0): Minimum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Output: 0 > (II) RADEON(0): Maximum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Input: 13500 > (II) RADEON(0): Minimum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Input: 1000 > (II) RADEON(0): Maximum Pixel Clock: 400000 > (II) RADEON(0): Reference Clock: 14320 > drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 > drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) > drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:01:05.0 > drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 > drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) > drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 10 > drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:01:05.0 > (II) RADEON(0): [dri] Found DRI library version 1.3.0 and kernel = module version 1.31.0 > (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): Page Flipping disabled on r5xx and newer chips. >=20 > (II) RADEON(0): Will try to use DMA for Xv image transfers > (II) RADEON(0): Generation 2 PCI interface, using max accessible = memory > (II) RADEON(0): Detected total video RAM=3D131072K, accessible=3D131072K= (PCI BAR=3D131072K) > (--) RADEON(0): Mapped VideoRAM: 131072 kByte (128 bit DDR SDRAM) > (II) RADEON(0): Color tiling enabled by default > (II) Loading sub module "ddc" > (II) LoadModule: "ddc" > (II) Module "ddc" already built-in > (II) Loading sub module "i2c" > (II) LoadModule: "i2c" > (II) Module "i2c" already built-in > (II) RADEON(0): PLL parameters: rf=3D1432 rd=3D12 min=3D80000 = max=3D120000; xclk=3D40000 > (WW) RADEON(0): LVDS Info: > XRes: 1280, YRes: 800, DotClock: 71000 > HBlank: 160, HOverPlus: 48, HSyncWidth: 32 > VBlank: 23, VOverPlus: 3, VSyncWidth: 6 > (II) RADEON(0): Skipping TV-Out > (II) RADEON(0): Skipping Component Video > (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 using monitor section Monitor0 > (II) RADEON(0): I2C bus "VGA-0" initialized. > (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS has no monitor section > (II) RADEON(0): I2C bus "LVDS" initialized. > (II) RADEON(0): Port0: > XRANDR name: VGA-0 > Connector: VGA > CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1 > DDC reg: 0x7e50 > (II) RADEON(0): Port1: > XRANDR name: LVDS > Connector: LVDS > LCD1: INTERNAL_LVTM1 > DDC reg: 0x7e40 > (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "VGA-0:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. > Dac detection success > (II) RADEON(0): Output: VGA-0, Detected Monitor Type: 0 > finished output detect: 0 > (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "LVDS:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. > (II) RADEON(0): Output: LVDS, Detected Monitor Type: 2 > (II) RADEON(0): EDID data from the display on output: LVDS = ---------------------- > (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer: LPL Model: d600 Serial#: 0 > (II) RADEON(0): Year: 2006 Week: 0 > (II) RADEON(0): EDID Version: 1.3 > (II) RADEON(0): Digital Display Input > (II) RADEON(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 33 vert.: 21 > (II) RADEON(0): Gamma: 2.20 > (II) RADEON(0): No DPMS capabilities specified > (II) RADEON(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4=20 > (II) RADEON(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode > (II) RADEON(0): redX: 0.600 redY: 0.351 greenX: 0.324 greenY: 0.554 > (II) RADEON(0): blueX: 0.153 blueY: 0.145 whiteX: 0.312 whiteY: = 0.328 > (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 > (II) RADEON(0): Supported detailed timing: > (II) RADEON(0): clock: 71.0 MHz Image Size: 331 x 207 mm > (II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1280 h_sync: 1328 h_sync_end 1360 = h_blank_end 1440 h_border: 0 > (II) RADEON(0): v_active: 800 v_sync: 803 v_sync_end 809 v_blanking: = 823 v_border: 0 > (II) RADEON(0): LGPhilipsLCD > (II) RADEON(0): LP154WX4-TLA1 > (II) RADEON(0): EDID (in hex): > (II) RADEON(0): 00ffffffffffff00320c00d600000000 > (II) RADEON(0): 00100103802115780ab3409959538d27 > (II) RADEON(0): 25505400000001010101010101010101 > (II) RADEON(0): 010101010101bc1b00a0502017303020 > (II) RADEON(0): 36004bcf100000190000000000000000 > (II) RADEON(0): 00000000000000000000000000fe004c > (II) RADEON(0): 475068696c6970734c43440a000000fe > (II) RADEON(0): 004c503135345758342d544c4131004d > finished output detect: 1 > finished all detect > Dac detection success > (II) RADEON(0): Output: VGA-0, Detected Monitor Type: 0 > (II) RADEON(0): Output: LVDS, Detected Monitor Type: 2 > (II) RADEON(0): EDID data from the display on output: LVDS = ---------------------- > (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer: LPL Model: d600 Serial#: 0 > (II) RADEON(0): Year: 2006 Week: 0 > (II) RADEON(0): EDID Version: 1.3 > (II) RADEON(0): Digital Display Input > (II) RADEON(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 33 vert.: 21 > (II) RADEON(0): Gamma: 2.20 > (II) RADEON(0): No DPMS capabilities specified > (II) RADEON(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4=20 > (II) RADEON(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode > (II) RADEON(0): redX: 0.600 redY: 0.351 greenX: 0.324 greenY: 0.554 > (II) RADEON(0): blueX: 0.153 blueY: 0.145 whiteX: 0.312 whiteY: = 0.328 > (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 > (II) RADEON(0): Supported detailed timing: > (II) RADEON(0): clock: 71.0 MHz Image Size: 331 x 207 mm > (II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1280 h_sync: 1328 h_sync_end 1360 = h_blank_end 1440 h_border: 0 > (II) RADEON(0): v_active: 800 v_sync: 803 v_sync_end 809 v_blanking: = 823 v_border: 0 > (II) RADEON(0): LGPhilipsLCD > (II) RADEON(0): LP154WX4-TLA1 > (II) RADEON(0): EDID (in hex): > (II) RADEON(0): 00ffffffffffff00320c00d600000000 > (II) RADEON(0): 00100103802115780ab3409959538d27 > (II) RADEON(0): 25505400000001010101010101010101 > (II) RADEON(0): 010101010101bc1b00a0502017303020 > (II) RADEON(0): 36004bcf100000190000000000000000 > (II) RADEON(0): 00000000000000000000000000fe004c > (II) RADEON(0): 475068696c6970734c43440a000000fe > (II) RADEON(0): 004c503135345758342d544c4131004d > (II) RADEON(0): EDID vendor "LPL", prod id 54784 > (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 disconnected > (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS connected > (II) RADEON(0): Using exact sizes for initial modes > (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS using initial mode 1280x800 > (II) RADEON(0): Using default gamma of (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) unless = otherwise stated. > (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): DPI set to (96, 96) > (II) Loading sub module "fb" > (II) LoadModule: "fb" > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so > (II) Module fb: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 > (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" > (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" > (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in > (**) RADEON(0): Using XAA acceleration architecture > (II) Loading sub module "xaa" > (II) LoadModule: "xaa" > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libxaa.so > (II) Module xaa: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.2.1 > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 > (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already = clear > (!!) RADEON(0): MergedFB support has been removed and replaced with = xrandr 1.2 support > (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp > (II) RADEON(0): RADEONScreenInit c0000000 0 0 > (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was = already clear > Output LCD1 disable success > Blank CRTC 0 success > Disable CRTC 0 success > Blank CRTC 1 success > Disable CRTC 1 success > (II) RADEON(0): Dynamic Power Management Enabled > (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): Using 24 bit depth buffer > (II) RADEON(0): RADEONInitMemoryMap() :=20 > (II) RADEON(0): mem_size : 0x08000000 > (II) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0xbfffb800 > (II) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0x003f0000 > (II) RADEON(0): Depth moves disabled by default > (II) RADEON(0): Using 32 MB GART aperture > (II) RADEON(0): Using 1 MB for the ring buffer > (II) RADEON(0): Using 2 MB for vertex/indirect buffers > (II) RADEON(0): Using 29 MB for GART textures > (II) RADEON(0): Memory manager initialized to (0,0) (1280,8191) > (II) RADEON(0): Reserved area from (0,1280) to (1280,1282) > (II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1280 x 6909 > (II) RADEON(0): Will use front buffer at offset 0x0 > (II) RADEON(0): Will use back buffer at offset 0x1978000 > (II) RADEON(0): Will use depth buffer at offset 0x1fb8000 > (II) RADEON(0): Will use 92160 kb for textures at offset 0x25f8000 > drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 > drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) > drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 > drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) > drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:01:05.0 > drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 > drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) > drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 10 > drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:01:05.0 > (II) [drm] DRM interface version 1.2 > (II) [drm] DRM open master succeeded. > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Using the DRM lock SAREA also for drawables. > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] framebuffer handle =3D 0x40000000000 > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel > (II) RADEON(0): X context handle =3D 0x1 > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] 32768 kB allocated with handle 0xcff65000 > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] ring handle =3D 0x00000000 > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring mapped at 0x804c1f000 > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring contents 0x00000000 > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] ring read ptr handle =3D 0x00000000 > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring read ptr mapped at 0x80090e000 > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring read ptr contents 0x00000000 > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] vertex/indirect buffers handle =3D 0x00000000 > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Vertex/indirect buffers mapped at 0x80ce00000 > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Vertex/indirect buffers contents 0x00000000 > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] GART texture map handle =3D 0x00000000 > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] GART Texture map mapped at 0x80d094000 > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] register handle =3D 0x00000000 > (II) RADEON(0): [dri] Visual configs initialized > (II) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMemMapRegisters() :=20 > (II) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0xbfffb800 0xbfffb800 > (II) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0x003f0000 > (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): Backing store disabled > (II) RADEON(0): [DRI] installation complete > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Added 32 65536 byte vertex/indirect buffers > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Mapped 32 vertex/indirect buffers > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] dma control initialized, using IRQ 256 > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Initialized kernel GART heap manager, 29884416 > (WW) RADEON(0): DRI init changed memory map, adjusting ... > (WW) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION was: 0xbfffb800 is: 0xbfffb800 > (WW) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION was: 0x003f0000 is: 0xc1ffc000 > (II) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMemMapRegisters() :=20 > (II) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0xbfffb800 0xbfffb800 > (II) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0xc1ffc000 > (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering enabled > (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration disabled > (II) RADEON(0): num quad-pipes is 1 > (II) RADEON(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) > Screen to screen bit blits > Solid filled rectangles > 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles > Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion > Solid Lines > Scanline Image Writes > Setting up tile and stipple cache: > 32 128x128 slots > 32 256x256 slots > 16 512x512 slots > (II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled > (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): DPMS enabled > (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): Silken mouse enabled > (II) RADEON(0): Will use 32 kb for hardware cursor 0 at offset = 0x00643000 > (II) RADEON(0): Will use 32 kb for hardware cursor 1 at offset = 0x00648000 > (II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1280 x 6901 > (II) RADEON(0): Set up textured video > (II) RADEON(0): [XvMC] Associated with Radeon Textured Video. > (II) RADEON(0): [XvMC] Extension initialized. > Output CRT1 disable success > Output LCD1 disable success > Blank CRTC 0 success > Disable CRTC 0 success > Blank CRTC 1 success > Disable CRTC 1 success >=20 >=20 > I tried running Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new >=20 > I get black screen, from which I can't recover. > CTRL+ALT+F<...> does nothing, > CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE does nothing. >=20 > And I can't kill Xorg: >=20 > # ps ax |grep Xorg > 1056 0 RE+ 5:54.16 Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new -retro > 1112 1 RL+ 0:00.02 grep Xorg > # kill -9 1056 > # ps ax |grep Xorg > 1056 0 RE+ 6:01.24 Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new -retro > 1114 1 S+ 0:00.02 grep Xorg > #=20 >=20 > The only way I can recover is reboot. >=20 > Please advise. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Anton Shterenlikht > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > Mech Eng Dept > Bristol University > University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK > Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 > Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 18:40:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 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X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:40:30 -0000 On 11-Jun-2012, at 11:02 PM, Gary Aitken wrote: > I've done the following after having a running system with a running = mysql on it: >=20 > moved user accounts, although no logical move: > /usr/home/foo was =3D> /hd1/foo > now > /usr/home =3D> /hd1/home and /hd1/foo is now /hd1/home/foo > repartitioned the SSD and restored the system from a dump taken prior = to repartitioning. > removed all ports and reinstalled them >=20 > Unfortunately, mysqld won't start: >=20 > 120611 10:55:52 [Warning] Can't create test file = /var/db/mysql/breakaway.lower-test What's the permission of /var/db/mysql? Also what user is mysql running = as? Thanks Subhro -- Subhro Sankha Kar System Administrator Working and Playing with FreeBSD since 2002 > 120611 10:55:52 [Warning] Can't create test file = /var/db/mysql/breakaway.lower-test > mysqld: Table 'mysql.plugin' doesn't exist > 120611 10:55:52 [ERROR] Can't open the mysql.plugin table. Please run = mysql_upgrade to create it. > 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: The InnoDB memory heap is disabled > 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Mutexes and rw_locks use GCC atomic builtins > 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Compressed tables use zlib 1.2.5 > 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Initializing buffer pool, size =3D 128.0M > 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Completed initialization of buffer pool > 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Operating system error number 13 in a file = operation. > InnoDB: The error means mysqld does not have the access rights to > InnoDB: the directory. > InnoDB: File name ./ibdata1 > InnoDB: File operation call: 'create'. > InnoDB: Cannot continue operation. >=20 > Running mysqld --verbose shows: >=20 > basedir /usr/local > general-log-file /var/db/mysql/breakaway.log >=20 > ls -aol /usr/local/libexec/mysqld > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel - 9558944 Jun 11 10:40 = /usr/local/libexec/mysqld > ls -dl /var/db/mysql > drwxr-xr-x 2 mysql mysql 512 Jun 11 10:31 /var/db/mysql >=20 > cd / > find . -ls | grep my.cnf >=20 > shows nothing. >=20 > This looks like some kind of access / setuid problem, but I'm not sure = what. > Suggestions? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 18:46:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D7D1065672 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:46:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gg0-f182.google.com (mail-gg0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69ACD8FC08 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnm2 with SMTP id m2so3178322ggn.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:46:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RK1+ReclsIx6sNiG/utGbVvQvT+o4Pd19D/9dLqkGXg=; b=qoZgNa9X3Y5hvbMItHav+G6yOoXwYB+WnrsK8saV1qK0iCF9kUXXJUnZaKyqcRraev OxVPpcMTenDrKRZ1RSL+RyXaQQIO1I+TrVej2pKtGnnwcxa6B8cSXpo/agpxi2a37sJn W3Zz7aYKLC5Ubjr9g4TWDK9J6bigS6fWtGZqo= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=RK1+ReclsIx6sNiG/utGbVvQvT+o4Pd19D/9dLqkGXg=; b=OJ+nmoHmuuLZ5ajlewD+BtOMm2QBeSeCWI2hiDSFMm/5dSfM96DkAjvraPIJ/2raN1 oXdqb54FHW5TO1D2bZsIl+i4e8dujccl9shuYwPZsLn6F/ifkiTPCnTXMXI7UOPlyDGW elW2eJmRe7Mej92uetzOQKZH9/1yalQ88/BStGzho8FHbC4KEFnNnm8S2hrOmYJdOUWQ x/HABPlSLxIWY7+/ggD+L1pQhnvjTYhm18xtVwOxCezJOosk4TN4/ui3bLzQtUnrwZ4D viQa8Rfo+yxdMmhuk6IU8t9V+pwdtAEEeZ1HhL5wsVL5EecKw6/S1ZrDdrWRYuF9qwx9 Dlbw== Received: by 10.236.109.225 with SMTP id s61mr23137694yhg.5.1339440413728; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b8sm26932708anm.4.2012.06.11.11.46.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3WB39Q3HXLz2CG46 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:46:49 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120611144649.134f8496@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120611174411.GA9858@hemlock.hydra> References: <0B9FF530-AAE8-4411-8B06-2AD5662CB803@my.gd> <20120609164855.GB31721@hemlock.hydra> <1D0D020B-1F05-4546-A15C-8A721C7BC4AC@my.gd> <20120610072320.43359222@scorpio> <20120611161111.GC20613@hemlock.hydra> <20120611125946.588e447e@scorpio> <20120611174411.GA9858@hemlock.hydra> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnv7Ur7SKkZntlIvH9afz9EMUnCkE2uLuEmMfqP4RWKyZTLloCtcFnq0DbLV3kpQcrWEAOT Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:46:54 -0000 On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:44:11 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated: >On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:59:46PM -0400, Jerry wrote: >> On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:11:11 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated: >> >> >On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:23:20AM -0400, Jerry wrote: >> >> >> >> It is fairly easy to understand both sides in this discussion. >> >> When Microsoft supporters refer to open-source software as >> >> "open-sore" or "socialist-software" the FOSS community becomes >> >> enraged. However, when the open-source community retaliates it is >> >> considered acceptable. Quite frankly I read far more Microsoft >> >> based forums than open-source based ones and I can say without a >> >> doubt, at least in my experience, Microsoft proponents never >> >> attack open-source with the venomous hatred that open-source >> >> attacks Microsoft. In fact, the majority of Microsoft users that >> >> I know could not care less about what they consider an overly >> >> burdensome (geeky) open-source operating system. >> >> >> >> The whole argument can probably be boiled do to this: >> >> >> >> Disparaging other operating systems (Microsoft) and pointing out >> >> its failures is beneficial, constructive and therapeutic. >> >> Pointing out problems and failures regarding your own OS is >> >> destructive and flame bait. >> > >> >Perhaps you're spending too much time in the community venues of >> >open source software projects. In communities devoted to use of >> >software peddled by Microsoft, the reverse would be true, and this >> >seems to me not the least bit surprising, or even particularly >> >inappropriate. When you stroll into a venue where it can reasonably >> >be assumed there is a general consensus position of favoring one >> >thing over another (such as a sports bar in Colorado, which would >> >likely favor the Broncos over the Raiders), then start loudly >> >proclaiming the evils of the favored thing relative to the >> >unfavored (such as talking about how much better the Raiders are >> >than the Broncos, and how the Broncos fans are all a bunch of pansy >> >whiners, as you tend to do about open source software users and >> >advocates while you're hanging out here on a FreeBSD mailing list), >> >what you are contributing to the discussion may quite >> >understandably be called "flamebait". Expressing surprise that >> >someone would apply such a label in these circumstances is, in my >> >estimation, at least disingenuous if not wholly ludicrous, directly >> >deceptive, and/or frankly dumb. >> >> Your paranoia is kicking in again isn't it Chad. Anyway, to address >> your sports analogy, if I walk into a NY City bar and enter into a >> discussion regarding the pros and cons of the Jets VS Giants, which >> in itself is ridiculous since neither is actually located in NY, and >> blatantly scream out that the (Jets of Giants -- you pick) are a >> bunch of mother-fucking, wife beating pedophiles, I think you would >> agree, unless you happen to belong to that group, that I have gone >> way over the top in my team assessment. There is a major difference >> between criticizing and defamation. Perhaps someday you will learn >> the difference. For the record, I have never heard of anyone using >> the term "mafia" while referring to the FOSS. Then again, the >> "Mafia" is a highly organized operation. I might also add that many >> people of Italian descent consider the term "mafia" offensive. > >I'm going to actually ignore your completely irrelevant and hilariously >unfounded attempt at psychiatric diagnosis beyond this sentence, and >get to the point: > >Ignoring for the moment http://linuxmafia.com it is true that I have >generally not heard of open source software or its community referred >to as "mafia", but I have heard of such things referred to as being >socialist, fascist, or otherwise pejoratively accused of inapplicable >political, criminal, or generally objectionable (in at least someone's >eyes) character. Three guesses who comes first to mind as having made >such statements, and the first two guesses don't count. I love the way you make a statement, then add a qualifier to the statement making it virtually impossible to attack as well as giving yourself a way out. I'll explain further in my reply near the end of this post. >> >I, for one, generally try to avoid saying nonfactually disparaging >> >things about Microsoft or (especially) users of software peddled by >> >Microsoft in venues like this mailing list, in part because it's a >> >bit unsportsmanlike, and in part because it doesn't really >> >contribute anything positive. It's kind of mind-boggling that >> >people like you make no evident effort to avoid saying disparaging >> >things about FreeBSD and its users in venues like this mailing >> >list, where it's trollish, does not contribute anything positive, >> >and directly offends large numbers of people subscribed to the list. >> >> When was this election held Chad? I am referring to the one that >> appointed you list spokesperson. In any case, you make an interesting >> statement without offering any documentation. Are you a politician >> Chad? I was inquiring because you seem to like making sound bites >> sans substance. > >I referred to no election. I am not list spokesperson, nor do I >pretend to be or act as one, any more than you are the spokesperson for >capitalism. I'm simply pointing out that you are an insufferable, >trollish jackass, initially in a polite manner. The fact you avoid >actually engaging my points, in favor of simply bleating about >transgressions I haven't even made, does a fairly good job of >supporting my statements. As stated above in my latest response, it is difficult to counter a statement by you since you don't really state anything. You say, "I have heard of such things referred to as being socialist, fascist, ..." (truncated by me) etcetera. Well who the hell hasn't. News flash -- that isn't one. Then you add the "(in at least someone's eyes)" qualifier making it impossible to argue with. A good politician's trick by the way. Are you sure you are not into politics? If it were not for your paranoia, you could probably be a good one. You say nothing and speak volumes. Seriously, look over your postings for the past year. Your "transgressions I haven't even made" and similar statements are reproduced in an alarming number of them. >The only good things I can say about you at this point are that: > >A. your email reply scaffolding does not reproduce people's email >addresses in a manner that will end up on Web archives of the list, >unlike some people > >B. your command of the English language is not atrocious > >C. you sometimes keep your virtual mouth shut Thank you so very much Chad. I honestly cannot think of anything I am going to enjoy more for the next indeterminate amount of time than putting your "Chad Approved" rating on my posts. -- Jerry â™” {This author has been Chad Perrin approved} Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 19:08:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7A1106566B for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:08:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEB78FC16 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:08:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5BJ84DR084327; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:08:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5BJ84t3084324; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:08:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:08:04 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: jb In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:08:04 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xfce 4.10 update problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:08:05 -0000 On Mon, 11 Jun 2012, jb wrote: > Warren Block wonkity.com> writes: > >> ... >>> - startx fails when moused enabled >>> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psm0 >>> Device busy. >>> (EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot open input device >>> (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "PS/2 Mouse" >>> (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) >>> xinit: connection to X server lost >>> >>> Any known solutions ? >> >> Disable hal in xorg.conf, ServerLayout section: >> >> Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" > > OK, that's way to go. > > But there is something strange. > I tried to fix the problem by disabling moused in /etc/rc.conf . > After reboot, I could 'startx' X session. > But 'ps' still showed moused processes: > $ ps auxww |grep -i mouse > root 1286 0.0 0.1 9716 1148 ?? Ss 8:55AM 0:01.02 > /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/ums0 -t auto -I /var/run/moused.ums0.pid > root 1888 0.0 0.1 9716 1144 ?? Is 8:55AM 0:00.00 > /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/psm0 -t auto > root 2045 0.0 0.1 12340 2516 ?? I 8:55AM 0:00.01 > hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/psm0 (hald-addon-mouse-sy) > root 2065 0.0 0.1 12340 2520 ?? I 8:55AM 0:00.01 > hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/ums0 (hald-addon-mouse-sy) > jb 2262 0.0 0.1 9748 1284 2 S+ 9:03AM 0:00.01 > grep -i mouse > > I tested it by rebooting 3 times. > I have 2 mouses: Lenovo Thinkpad stick and external usb mouse. devd runs moused when USB mice are attached, even if moused_enable="NO" is set in rc.conf. That's not a bad thing. It seems like enabling moused is needed somehow, maybe just to get a handle on the mice before HAL starts. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 19:26:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3251B106564A for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3078FC1A for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:26:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SeAFn-0002dx-4e for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:26:19 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-82-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.82.23]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:26:19 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-82-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:26:19 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:26:09 -0400 Lines: 120 Message-ID: References: <4FD62BA8.7030702@dreamchaser.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-82-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: mysqld startup issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:26:22 -0000 Gary Aitken wrote: > I've done the following after having a running system with a running mysql > on it: > > moved user accounts, although no logical move: > /usr/home/foo was => /hd1/foo > now > /usr/home => /hd1/home and /hd1/foo is now /hd1/home/foo > repartitioned the SSD and restored the system from a dump taken prior to > repartitioning. removed all ports and reinstalled them Although I have not really experienced much in the way of toruble with this, as my systems are not very 'busy', it can be better to boot from a LiveCD to do the dump because no files are open for writing and all your MySQL files will be static. No possibility of change during the dump. That being said, I have done dumps from live filesystems and have been able to restore them many times. Forewarned is forearmed. > Unfortunately, mysqld won't start: > > 120611 10:55:52 [Warning] Can't create test file > /var/db/mysql/breakaway.lower-test 120611 10:55:52 [Warning] Can't create > test file /var/db/mysql/breakaway.lower-test mysqld: Table 'mysql.plugin' > doesn't exist 120611 10:55:52 [ERROR] Can't open the mysql.plugin table. > Please run mysql_upgrade to create it. 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: The InnoDB > memory heap is disabled 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Mutexes and rw_locks use > GCC atomic builtins 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Compressed tables use zlib > 1.2.5 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Initializing buffer pool, size = 128.0M > 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Completed initialization of buffer pool > 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Operating system error number 13 in a file > operation. InnoDB: The error means mysqld does not have the access rights > to InnoDB: the directory. > InnoDB: File name ./ibdata1 > InnoDB: File operation call: 'create'. > InnoDB: Cannot continue operation. I have had trouble before when playing with these files outside of MySQL. What happens is if they get out of sync with the index they will become totally unusable. There are recovery procedures in the docs, but if memory serves it was just easier to delete the ib_logfile(x) and allow MySQL to recreate from scratch. Probably not central to your problem, per se, just thought I'd make mention in passing. I would recommend consulting the docs on this subject of index/logfile recovery prior to any blindly mucking about. > Running mysqld --verbose shows: > > basedir /usr/local > general-log-file /var/db/mysql/breakaway.log Usually this file is of the form .err > ls -aol /usr/local/libexec/mysqld > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel - 9558944 Jun 11 10:40 mine shows: testbed# ls -aol /usr/local/libexec/mysqld -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel - 6694672 May 10 11:16 /usr/local/libexec/mysqld > /usr/local/libexec/mysqld ls -dl /var/db/mysql > drwxr-xr-x 2 mysql mysql 512 Jun 11 10:31 /var/db/mysql and my /var/db shows the below for the mysql directory: drwxr-xr-x 21 mysql mysql 3072 Jun 4 12:09 mysql > cd / > find . -ls | grep my.cnf > > shows nothing. > > This looks like some kind of access / setuid problem, but I'm not sure > what. Suggestions? Beginning with the mysql_enable="YES" I have found when using rc startup scripts you need the entire path: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server Moving on to permissions. Don't recall specifically, but if memory serves during the port install/reinstall there is a choice displayed to keep/use a previous mysql:mysql user and group combo. Perhaps an incorrect choice allows for deleting this - never known as I have always chosen to not delete but to reuse the old accounts. Nevertheless, in /etc/group there should be an entry like this: mysql:*:88: And the user account as shown by vipw will look like this: mysql:*:88:88::0:0:MySQL Daemon:/nonexistent:/sbin/nologin These should both be handled 'automagically' by the ports build system. You can cd to /var/db and do a chown -R mysql:mysql mysql if you want to ensure file ownership is correct, provided the above referenced entries are in place. The ports these days will place the my.cnf file in /usr/local/etc instead of the old location of /var/db/mysql. I believe it is still supposed to fall back to /var/db/mysql if not found. One thing I found out when I was having a problem was that MySQL will not source this file if permissions on it are world read/write. Not exactly sure what it's supposed to be (I'm sure this can be found in the docs) but I've just chmod'd it 444 when I'm done with edits. I do not grasp why any movement of your home directories mentioned at the top would matter to MySQL. I suspect something more to do with the "removed all ports and reinstalled them" part. The mysql.plugin tells you to run an update script to update schema. There is more info on this in the docs. Don't believe that is the main problem. I suspect either you have InnoDB configs not being read in my.cnf or that InnoDB logfiles or index got corrupted by the backup process. If you have MyIsam tables and you comment out in my.cnf the activation (once you get my.cnf being read and used) of the InnoDB engine and now MySQL starts then I would focus on the InnoDB corruption issue. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 19:30:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EED106566B for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:30:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77878FC0C for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Jun 2012 15:30:11 -0400 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BUM67647; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:30:11 -0400 Received: from 209-6-86-84.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.86.84]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Jun 2012 15:30:10 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20438.18242.355961.455504@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:30:10 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <201206110559.q5B5x0Vu096317@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20437.57631.776197.982243@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Subject: Re: speed of "dump" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:30:15 -0000 Warren Block writes: > > Another thread, which I seem to have lost, was talking about > > dump and sizing its cache. > > Per my promise, appended is the log of this morning's level 0 dump, > > using C=32. THe system is -CURRENT from March, using AMD Phemon II > > x4/3ghz and SATA 3gbit drives (one internal, one external.). > > > > DUMP: finished in 1746 seconds, throughput 19568 KBytes/sec > > Are you using -b64 ? That can make a serious throughput improvement > over smaller values. No. I'll give it a try. Thanks, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 19:31:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4071065672 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:31:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D828FC27 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Jun 2012 15:31:36 -0400 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BNN42432; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:31:35 -0400 Received: from 209-6-86-84.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.86.84]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Jun 2012 15:31:35 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20438.18327.579237.754554@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:31:35 -0400 To: Adam Vande More In-Reply-To: References: <201206110559.q5B5x0Vu096317@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20437.57631.776197.982243@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Robert Huff , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: speed of "dump" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:31:36 -0000 Adam Vande More writes: > > DUMP: finished in 1746 seconds, throughput 19568 KBytes/sec > > Looks like one of your disks must be USB. Source disk: SATA, I believe 3mbit Target disk: e-SATA, which may be limited to 1.5 mbit/sec. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 19:44:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742051065674 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:44:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3285F8FC17 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1361 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jun 2012 19:44:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2012 19:44:37 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=ByebFRpDJOjMZpCMBFnxcb5K8vEN0Zfc0bDLoAOlS1M=; b=E1iLkoZ8vdk1LGnplqCKpv/iBJCzlXcIkn+5SdWjZXbFAsUIWGWVBiS8P0eVPJTP17m3hrRylWdTP1kSgoELKHDARtJJIVfjPbdVzCBD3JZCL7/pLz6h3hTEoA41HleK; Received: from [24.8.180.234] (port=61922 helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SeAXV-0006S1-0D for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:44:37 -0600 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:44:36 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120611194436.GA21930@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <0B9FF530-AAE8-4411-8B06-2AD5662CB803@my.gd> <20120609164855.GB31721@hemlock.hydra> <1D0D020B-1F05-4546-A15C-8A721C7BC4AC@my.gd> <20120610072320.43359222@scorpio> <20120611161111.GC20613@hemlock.hydra> <20120611125946.588e447e@scorpio> <20120611174411.GA9858@hemlock.hydra> <20120611144649.134f8496@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120611144649.134f8496@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:44:38 -0000 On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 02:46:49PM -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:44:11 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated: > >On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:59:46PM -0400, Jerry wrote: > >> > >> Your paranoia is kicking in again isn't it Chad. Anyway, to address > >> your sports analogy, if I walk into a NY City bar and enter into a > >> discussion regarding the pros and cons of the Jets VS Giants, which > >> in itself is ridiculous since neither is actually located in NY, and > >> blatantly scream out that the (Jets of Giants -- you pick) are a > >> bunch of mother-fucking, wife beating pedophiles, I think you would > >> agree, unless you happen to belong to that group, that I have gone > >> way over the top in my team assessment. There is a major difference > >> between criticizing and defamation. Perhaps someday you will learn > >> the difference. For the record, I have never heard of anyone using > >> the term "mafia" while referring to the FOSS. Then again, the > >> "Mafia" is a highly organized operation. I might also add that many > >> people of Italian descent consider the term "mafia" offensive. > > > >I'm going to actually ignore your completely irrelevant and hilariously > >unfounded attempt at psychiatric diagnosis beyond this sentence, and > >get to the point: > > > >Ignoring for the moment http://linuxmafia.com it is true that I have > >generally not heard of open source software or its community referred > >to as "mafia", but I have heard of such things referred to as being > >socialist, fascist, or otherwise pejoratively accused of inapplicable > >political, criminal, or generally objectionable (in at least someone's > >eyes) character. Three guesses who comes first to mind as having made > >such statements, and the first two guesses don't count. > > I love the way you make a statement, then add a qualifier to the > statement making it virtually impossible to attack as well as giving > yourself a way out. I'll explain further in my reply near the end of > this post. This is interesting coming from someone whose immediately preceding comment was an Internet diagnosis of paranoia coupled with a hypocritical accusation of inappropriate phrasing directed at a third party. > > >> >I, for one, generally try to avoid saying nonfactually disparaging > >> >things about Microsoft or (especially) users of software peddled by > >> >Microsoft in venues like this mailing list, in part because it's a > >> >bit unsportsmanlike, and in part because it doesn't really > >> >contribute anything positive. It's kind of mind-boggling that > >> >people like you make no evident effort to avoid saying disparaging > >> >things about FreeBSD and its users in venues like this mailing > >> >list, where it's trollish, does not contribute anything positive, > >> >and directly offends large numbers of people subscribed to the list. > >> > >> When was this election held Chad? I am referring to the one that > >> appointed you list spokesperson. In any case, you make an interesting > >> statement without offering any documentation. Are you a politician > >> Chad? I was inquiring because you seem to like making sound bites > >> sans substance. > > > >I referred to no election. I am not list spokesperson, nor do I > >pretend to be or act as one, any more than you are the spokesperson for > >capitalism. I'm simply pointing out that you are an insufferable, > >trollish jackass, initially in a polite manner. The fact you avoid > >actually engaging my points, in favor of simply bleating about > >transgressions I haven't even made, does a fairly good job of > >supporting my statements. > > As stated above in my latest response, it is difficult to counter a > statement by you since you don't really state anything. You say, "I > have heard of such things referred to as being socialist, > fascist, ..." (truncated by me) etcetera. Well who the hell hasn't. > News flash -- that isn't one. Then you add the "(in at least someone's > eyes)" qualifier making it impossible to argue with. A good > politician's trick by the way. Are you sure you are not into politics? > If it were not for your paranoia, you could probably be a good one. You > say nothing and speak volumes. Seriously, look over your postings for > the past year. Your "transgressions I haven't even made" and similar > statements are reproduced in an alarming number of them. The obvious implication here is that you are one of those people who makes comments insinuating (or outright claiming) socialist or fascist ethics dominating open source communities. I make no bones about the fact I made implicative reference to you in that statement, so you don't need to play dumb and pretend you don't know I was pointing out your own hypocrisies. The "at least in someone's eyes" parenthetical remark was in reference to the presumably pejorative character of some remarks people like you often make. Nice job pretending I meant something else with that parenthetical remark, though. Your tendency to (intentionally, I think) misrepresent the context of my statements when you fail to find a concrete argument to present proves you're a real class act. What "class" that is, I leave as an inference for the reader. I'm not sure what you're talking about with regard to the transgressions I haven't made. I did not refer to anyone as "mafia" in this list, to my recollection, and I would be quite interested in seeing verifiable quotes of me saying such a thing. I similarly do not recall expressing a pathological fear of persecution here. I pointed out that one person (not you) failed to say something worthwhile in an earlier email, and that another person (you) have unreasonable expectations if you really think that you have given nobody any reason to call you a troll or refer to what you do as flamebaiting when you show up in a FreeBSD community mailing list and accuse open source software users and advocates of pejoratively socialist, fascist, and otherwise reprehensible behavior in your eyes just because they prefer something other than MS Windows, often lumping an entire community in with a single noisy individual. > > > >The only good things I can say about you at this point are that: > > > >A. your email reply scaffolding does not reproduce people's email > >addresses in a manner that will end up on Web archives of the list, > >unlike some people > > > >B. your command of the English language is not atrocious > > > >C. you sometimes keep your virtual mouth shut > > Thank you so very much Chad. I honestly cannot think of anything I am > going to enjoy more for the next indeterminate amount of time than > putting your "Chad Approved" rating on my posts. Everyone needs goals, I suppose. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 19:48:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DAD1065676 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:48:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B128FC0A for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:48:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q5BJmYoK019188; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:48:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:48:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201206111948.q5BJmYoK019188@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd@dreamchaser.org In-Reply-To: <4FD62BA8.7030702@dreamchaser.org> Cc: Subject: Re: mysqld startup issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:48:08 -0000 Gary Aitken wrote: > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: mysqld startup issue > > I've done the following after having a running system with a running mysql on it: > > moved user accounts, although no logical move: > /usr/home/foo was => /hd1/foo > now > /usr/home => /hd1/home and /hd1/foo is now /hd1/home/foo > repartitioned the SSD and restored the system from a dump taken prior to repartitioning. > removed all ports and reinstalled them > > Unfortunately, mysqld won't start: > [ sneck ] > 120611 10:55:52 [ERROR] Can't open the mysql.plugin table. Please run mysql_upgrade to create it. [ sneck ] > > This looks like some kind of access / setuid problem, but I'm not sure what. > Suggestions? Have you tried doing what the error message _tells_ you to do ? If so, what happened? If not, why not? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 19:53:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431BC1065675 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:53:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bjmccann@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F309D8FC08 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl8 with SMTP id l8so3249946yen.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:53:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WhTUplyuI0uPXb+T4zmggfcEpCNm5Eq1phYbj9IrKHY=; b=waGN7khqVwBTRYKpQZDmEJ/N6FsfRevZ22DbsjrOlbeserc5eA+mnboZMg/k1oAMJc ZjuYsq9U/7ZiJ0C23geybwfjoKOqPmj+18arhpx64NQbA9hiSHCAIGbyn3VBB8OUpEFK 4ks8nzrhsMtjaNQRgFoxIqcjP4qn+LXHQZ+7qtKzSFqR9ra61c0TrdMtZf0nvwX47yxx szyGNpEiyy7aIdhsvTDXZoXARRZgLE/0Pr01JA996Wm5vuEkM+WcnQN5XekoD0rGHZBE Ou+m6FTG0NRYEAUe0c2a7CgNe4/d9qOR2YML/fQbjk5hUwhjW/+W3E1k+y9c/jM5WtqK rfcw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.17.226 with SMTP id r2mr7049305igd.47.1339444424169; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.76.84 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:53:44 -0400 Message-ID: From: Brian McCann To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Booting from ZFS with serial console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:53:45 -0000 Hi all. I am in desperate need of some help with ZFS (maybe GPT) and serial consoles. I use 19200 for my console speed for everything, so I recompiled the boot blocks using "BOOT_COMCONSOLE_SPEED="19200" " in /etc/make.conf. I then ran this to install new blocks to my two drives in the mirror pair: gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 1 ad4 gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 1 ad6 If the keyboard is plugged in when the machine starts up, all is good. With the keyboard unplugged, I get a small error "dump" followed by "BTX Halted". I tried this with the files from the install DVD, and the same thing happens..."BTX Halted" without a keyboard plugged in. In both cases, /boot.config has : "-P -S19200". I tried changing it to "-Dh -S19200", and I get the "BTX Halted" on every boot now. Can someone please shed some light on why it's crashing like this? I'm fairly confident this behavior is a bug and not "by design"...but I can't believe that this bug would not be noticed up until now. Thanks! --Brian -- _-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_ Brian McCann "I don't have to take this abuse from you -- I've got hundreds of people waiting to abuse me." -- Bill Murray, "Ghostbusters" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 20:45:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22201065672 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:45:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8979E8FC18 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:45:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SeBUq-0000Fd-NB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:45:56 +0200 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:45:56 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:45:56 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:45:35 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:13.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/13.0) Subject: Re: xfce 4.10 update problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:45:59 -0000 Warren Block wonkity.com> writes: > ... > > I have 2 mouses: Lenovo Thinkpad stick and external usb mouse. > > devd runs moused when USB mice are attached, even if moused_enable="NO" > is set in rc.conf. > > That's not a bad thing. It seems like enabling moused is needed > somehow, maybe just to get a handle on the mice before HAL starts. Oops, I must have goofed multiple times. Disabling moused in rc.conf did just that for the default (built-in) mouse. $ ps auxww|grep -i mouse root 1938 1.0 0.1 12340 2628 ?? S 10:31PM 0:00.92 hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/psm0 (hald-addon-mouse-sy) root 1287 0.0 0.1 9716 1148 ?? Ss 10:31PM 0:00.12 /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/ums0 -t auto -I /var/run/moused.ums0.pid root 1958 0.0 0.1 12340 2516 ?? I 10:31PM 0:00.01 hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/ums0 (hald-addon-mouse-sy) jb 2110 0.0 0.0 1928 708 1 R+ 10:34PM 0:00.02 grep -i mouse No problem here. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b58sm59518668yhh.16.2012.06.11.13.53.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3WB5zD0lRRz2CG46 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:53:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:53:11 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120611165311.5ba19839@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120611194436.GA21930@hemlock.hydra> References: <0B9FF530-AAE8-4411-8B06-2AD5662CB803@my.gd> <20120609164855.GB31721@hemlock.hydra> <1D0D020B-1F05-4546-A15C-8A721C7BC4AC@my.gd> <20120610072320.43359222@scorpio> <20120611161111.GC20613@hemlock.hydra> <20120611125946.588e447e@scorpio> <20120611174411.GA9858@hemlock.hydra> <20120611144649.134f8496@scorpio> <20120611194436.GA21930@hemlock.hydra> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm2WeDntW3efWyvzyziX9GBW4DGv0tV7kvmKvQ9eHVXEceWEequQTruEXnsEcSULBt2hIxu Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:53:16 -0000 On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:44:36 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated: >> As stated above in my latest response, it is difficult to counter a >> statement by you since you don't really state anything. You say, "I >> have heard of such things referred to as being socialist, >> fascist, ..." (truncated by me) etcetera. Well who the hell hasn't. >> News flash -- that isn't one. Then you add the "(in at least >> someone's eyes)" qualifier making it impossible to argue with. A good >> politician's trick by the way. Are you sure you are not into >> politics? If it were not for your paranoia, you could probably be a >> good one. You say nothing and speak volumes. Seriously, look over >> your postings for the past year. Your "transgressions I haven't even >> made" and similar statements are reproduced in an alarming number of >> them. > >The obvious implication here is that you are one of those people who >makes comments insinuating (or outright claiming) socialist or fascist >ethics dominating open source communities. I make no bones about the >fact I made implicative reference to you in that statement, so you >don't need to play dumb and pretend you don't know I was pointing out >your own hypocrisies. > >The "at least in someone's eyes" parenthetical remark was in reference >to the presumably pejorative character of some remarks people like you >often make. Nice job pretending I meant something else with that >parenthetical remark, though. Your tendency to (intentionally, I >think) misrepresent the context of my statements when you fail to find >a concrete argument to present proves you're a real class act. What >"class" that is, I leave as an inference for the reader. Your paranoia is working overtime now. >I'm not sure what you're talking about with regard to the >transgressions I haven't made. I did not refer to anyone as "mafia" >in this list, to my recollection, and I would be quite interested in >seeing verifiable quotes of me saying such a thing. I similarly do >not recall expressing a pathological fear of persecution here. I >pointed out that one person (not you) failed to say something >worthwhile in an earlier email, and that another person (you) have >unreasonable expectations if you really think that you have given >nobody any reason to call you a troll or refer to what you do as >flamebaiting when you show up in a FreeBSD community mailing list and >accuse open source software users and advocates of pejoratively >socialist, fascist, and otherwise reprehensible behavior in your eyes >just because they prefer something other than MS Windows, often >lumping an entire community in with a single noisy individual. Oh, poor Chad. His feelings are hurt. Chad, for some reason that totally escapes me at the moment, you feel as if you are important enough for me to really care what you think. News flash -- you aren't. I think of you as nothing more than an incorrigible bore with an inflated ego. Your attempts to portray yourself as an cognoscente while your persecution complex has pervaded numerous posts you have responded to has become laughable. Perhaps you are experiencing hypnagogic hallucinations. You really should consult an expert in the field although I fear that you would be recalcitrant to the idea. It must be sad going through life feeling that everyone is casting aspersions and heaping maledictions upon you. It is really sad. Personally, I would much rather have a discussion with Poly. I respect him, although I don't often agree with him. At least he discusses facts and doesn't spend his time trying to defend himself against non existent attacks. If you want to reply back with actual facts pertinent to the subject of this post, fine. Otherwise you are only wasting your time since I will not play your sad "woe is me" game. -- Jerry â™” {This author has been Chad Perrin approved} Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 21:12:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF12106564A for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:12:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F1FA8FC1D for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:12:21 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=5oRhQSobcvpyco2K7JTpJUeLToPYGx1AqE0O/pcbPeU=; b=S6ixDBA4/QRJ8SVrOLCAiDWm1GEYMjz72REWz5v1sQiS1qfVuGpWldHL6h0M6fqIRyLRdoBiLPjJa9nr1sbyyNcGcd6BKaqAfjc9R3VTZxs3Gyi9s3ssTRf4t6qsB/Kz; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SeBuN-0003Le-GJ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:12:21 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1339449133-26372-26371/5/65; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:12:13 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: FreeBSD References: <0B9FF530-AAE8-4411-8B06-2AD5662CB803@my.gd> <20120609164855.GB31721@hemlock.hydra> <1D0D020B-1F05-4546-A15C-8A721C7BC4AC@my.gd> <20120610072320.43359222@scorpio> <20120611161111.GC20613@hemlock.hydra> <20120611125946.588e447e@scorpio> <20120611174411.GA9858@hemlock.hydra> <20120611144649.134f8496@scorpio> <20120611194436.GA21930@hemlock.hydra> <20120611165311.5ba19839@scorpio> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:12:12 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20120611165311.5ba19839@scorpio> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.64 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? 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[2.80.184.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gb9sm1186911wib.8.2012.06.11.14.58.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4C067C55-8320-4D12-A312-F8E2CC699B01@gmail.com> From: i pwn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-12-367425629" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:57:58 +0100 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.2.0 (v56) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: text format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:58:24 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-12-367425629 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi, sometime ago i asked a question about how to format a text, some people told me to use groff, but i would like to know how was file http://ipwn.altervista.org/files/Stoll,%20Clifford%20-%20The%20Cuckoo%27s%20Egg.txt fomatted. thanks in advance. --- JID:ipwn#cih.ms HP:ipwn.altervista.org --Apple-Mail-12-367425629 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.18 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJP1mnzAAoJEB9LVp0jj3VQEbwH/3Nln78UIy8UpOSokLpPsq0h BuEOIr1/wUw915hGtCVXbhc0WcyQmcSrG2UvBXLtZgvGYl+v8bFpjdHVC0CYXPWE 3XZRCriIcr97gVRbeeMxwCBiDF2VTPha/a8mqLLoaLF5aobSn8YryJLxc+qQ97EN ULfTq+9SgzlwWg+lRF8+xzb61eKgzamIChmrhqHtnRYCuB2FO9jQvtQc+R5ut/4Y 8Xn+2ELt4wbn1KZcwE+bA+Lq7bKD0R88qJF28NLAo0eqK0kwTeF7GaqDf2VQ6ajt 2fjWaB2JuPZLpC4738v0O7gH6yln5XIzebIkXipnop0rFYCMg4j/gtoTOr+6Of8= =668e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-12-367425629-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 22:02:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82EC5106566B for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:02:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640CD8FC12 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:02:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A470AE805B6; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:02:35 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20120611220232.GA29749@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Subject: any way to grab just One port to upgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:02:41 -0000 it is easy to cvs or cvsup ports and get a whole slew of ports in /usr/ports/distfiles, but too often, using portmaster [or another tool], I'll have only one of two ports that fail because they are either 1) broken, or 2) out of date. is there any way I can grab just the ones that fail to compile? I'm down to fewer than 50 ports. and wedged. tia, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Voice By Computer (for Universal Access): http:/www.thought.org/vbc The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 22:03:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3129B106567A for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:03:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84768FC21 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:03:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q5BM3mnW031494; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:03:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FD66B44.3080506@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:03:48 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120609 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Subhro Sankha Kar , nightrecon@hotmail.com References: <4FD62BA8.7030702@dreamchaser.org> <721F59E6-BCA8-4589-8BB2-A0BCD5613031@80386.org> In-Reply-To: <721F59E6-BCA8-4589-8BB2-A0BCD5613031@80386.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:03:49 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: [solved] Re: mysqld startup issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:03:52 -0000 Ugh. Operator error. I assumed from the docs there had to be a my.cnf file someplace, if only to serve as the system default; and that the my.cnf file was directing everything else. It turns out there doesn't have to be one anywhere. My thought process was hijacked by the errors produced from the missing --datadir option starting using: mysqld --datadir= was all that was required, although clearly a my.cnf or ~/.my.cnf would make things easier. > 120611 10:55:52 [Warning] Can't create test file /var/db/mysql/breakaway.lower-test > mysqld: Table 'mysql.plugin' doesn't exist > 120611 10:55:52 [ERROR] Can't open the mysql.plugin table. Please run mysql_upgrade to create it. > 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: The InnoDB memory heap is disabled > 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Mutexes and rw_locks use GCC atomic builtins > 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Compressed tables use zlib 1.2.5 > 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Initializing buffer pool, size = 128.0M > 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Completed initialization of buffer pool > 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Operating system error number 13 in a file operation. > InnoDB: The error means mysqld does not have the access rights to > InnoDB: the directory. > InnoDB: File name ./ibdata1 > InnoDB: File operation call: 'create'. > InnoDB: Cannot continue operation. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 22:11:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7631410656F1 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F57F8FC1D for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:11:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q5BMBsjx031530; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:11:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FD66D2A.6070001@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:11:54 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120609 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi References: <201206111948.q5BJmYoK019188@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201206111948.q5BJmYoK019188@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:11:54 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysqld startup issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:11:56 -0000 On 06/11/12 13:48, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> Unfortunately, mysqld won't start: >> > [ sneck ] > >> 120611 10:55:52 [ERROR] Can't open the mysql.plugin table. Please run mysql_upgrade to create it. > Have you tried doing what the error message _tells_ you to do ? nope, and yup nope, because the docs clearly state that the server needs to be running. yup, because I did it anyway just to see what it would do > If so, what happened? Unsurprisingly, it craps out saying it cannot connect to the server. problem was missing --datadir option when starting server From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 22:14:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA141065676 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:14:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2768FC19 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbmv11 with SMTP id v11so3084065vbm.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:14:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EfYjbKcKzN56bjIN9W/BvA7jEhbo2PWrn2vgTO3jfsI=; b=uwaIjNOrlaRpyUU99lJRPOFsNuJeaPCBAHe2KsknYg5snWX3NYRoNCmx738h2bKJ7z ADCQRTbwM9vLQ455KPbXReqYjvh1CuA2rbE/Pl9EWfmCEkXblavJu89z77pfg00x7vEw a/ScrQekOx5NXgiQ/+AVgET8qWUKE+Q6X387igDY4TUyJ0HEEWZLwOLcDiNuCJwtctoa RAgEGoqulCYDabbxdwkfvf1AXxGrWWY+E35eEnCF+/tpvugkLZE8qSKCWeKCOYMDuIEC dU+Chsor/pXSdhABqAIp0+GjKYsyOA9HOrxjWM1iQeqdi86gOFv5kTvQvmAF0YmxsYWz LgSw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.226.68 with SMTP id iv4mr13495260vcb.21.1339452892097; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.113.97 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:14:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120611220232.GA29749@thought.org> References: <20120611220232.GA29749@thought.org> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:14:52 -0400 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: any way to grab just One port to upgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:14:53 -0000 On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > it is easy to cvs or cvsup ports and get a whole slew of ports in > /usr/ports/distfiles, but too often, using portmaster [or another > tool], I'll have only one of two ports that fail because they are > either 1) broken, or 2) out of date. =A0is there any way I can grab > just the ones that fail to compile? =A0I'm down to fewer than 50 > ports. > and wedged. You don't want to have /usr/ports out of sync. You want to let cvsup/portsnap do it's thing. It's ideal to have the whole ports collection up-to-date. You may want to start with a clean slate and cvsup/portsnap a fresh copy of the ports collection if you think that something is amiss. You can make a backup of /usr/ports for peace of mind too. Also, can you please supply exactly what ports you're talking about and what commands you are running to upgrade? Error output for the ports you say are broken would be another good thing to supply. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 22:18:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B9C106566B for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:18:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from gw17.lax01.mailroute.net (lax-gw17.mailroute.net [199.89.0.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225F68FC08 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:18:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gw17.lax01.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2964666367; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:18:19 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by MailRoute Received: from gw17.lax01.mailroute.net ([199.89.0.117]) by localhost (gw17.lax01.mailroute.net.mailroute.net [127.0.0.1]) (mroute_mailscanner, port 10026) with LMTP id xb7U_FSST4Yn; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:18:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by gw17.lax01.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7962E666392; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:18:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5D69E12CA; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:18:18 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Bill Yuan References: <20120610120041.4D0F610657C3@hub.freebsd.org> <20120611025332.N46641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.19.8.7; tzolkin = 6 Manik; haab = 10 Zotz Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:18:18 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Bill Yuan's message of "Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:39:56 +0800") Message-ID: <863961ze51.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Ian Smith , "Brian W." , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to allow by MAC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:18:25 -0000 >>>>> "Bill" == Bill Yuan writes: Bill> I want to create a white list MAC address, Only the machine which it's MAC Bill> in the white list will be allowed, all others will be blocked. Bad idea. Since (a) every MAC address that *is* allowed is transmitted in the clear and (b) it's trivial to spoof a MAC address. This. is. no. security. Please stop even trying. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 22:55:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C262B106566C for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:55:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geo.liaskos@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qa0-f47.google.com (mail-qa0-f47.google.com [209.85.216.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED268FC1E for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:55:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qabg1 with SMTP id g1so2416516qab.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:55:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=CMiFhATEFfnllHS8LBzsOnQpM96Yw+2KvJrTZvsKHag=; b=DQwAtyZsw5zB7JMT7/f/GDIaAifqDFjXPFlJ/ePGy2aWFxArs6X/tiTcTAkAKNkPHx nv8h1Uhhn8SIGbupigzCflcaBMT62guD73vfrCTRmb2mZmpH1iWt0jKMnfhrwOeoNdYy XOWljREF7GSzq5aewO0JeG1UkscWpWbww2p0ZmvecV35Dm+F+lU07Y83BywipbPAyEWR BAJRYl5SWVMnUtOqTF22rjlVo17b0y7luQ8LY+g30MsMOrKLszQodw8VxVzDIU+2Z21z 8OgiyKHu+kRYmOgmqGCURSWMSC7ggd0uALOyq8fJYYeoMTVqm+QqH5htbyzHM2d0ZPSE 2S4Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.135.5 with SMTP id l5mr7337408qct.41.1339455313284; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:55:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.155.2 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:55:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <84sje2zpbv.fsf@maxwell.cjones.org> References: <84sje2zpbv.fsf@maxwell.cjones.org> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 01:55:13 +0300 Message-ID: From: George Liaskos To: weif@weif.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chromium 19 core dumps on launch... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:55:19 -0000 On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Keith Seyffarth wrote: > > Friday I installed Chromium again because it would be nice to have a > browser to test in other than Firefox and Opera. It was installed using > portinstall -R chromium, which *appeared* to function properly. > > However, trying to run chrome results in: > pid 50993 (chrome), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > > >From what I found online, it looked like I may have been encountering an > issue with devel/google-perftools, but on reinstall was able to confirm > that this is building with gcc not clang. > > I have also removed my ~/.config/chromium directory with no change in > behavior. > > > > Not sure if it's relevant, but the last version of Chromium that was > *functional* for me was 12. Versions 13-16 didn't support loading web > pages (the browser would launch, but if I entered a URL in the address > bar, I could leave the browser running overnight and it still wouldn't > have started loading a page). Then when 17 and 18 wouldn't even compile > (marked ignore), I just removed package. Please try 19.0.1084.56_1, devel/google-perftools is not a dependency of chromium anymore. Regards, George From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 23:40:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85037106564A for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:40:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-gh0-f182.google.com (mail-gh0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E15C8FC19 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:40:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbz22 with SMTP id z22so3403079ghb.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:40:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=BDtfLiOEhpBDN7QkCQHIH43tGmy2Vb6wS3d009oUboU=; b=oKGAsQp7vlzCSenTUtteFTvY3ocpyiktEgnpmjDvK5jZFbpADtB5XBZnBtdKnu6S+A cf/5Ij688evDEOTujzeznq79QggQaih/Tp8DIQvYQ+9HL4lyek2Y6xJx7mEoS2faPGl5 COAXy45wpJb6KWXpkcsLzIv7L9wsf4USCF5SyvM2Pm0TXBWS1KPnCAS/zkBmWPDfRvzD 2/fvOoZydSgQi6GRVDKDmXjQSQHWCL0b0dAuJtahiO+PSQpqeaBsTIw0z6OmLY7537cV W3xn6ZF5uCbX5DE3bgVozTukNxQ1kBvNy/sREFba6dOrvWM2C2V0Bhw1E7Z/9RSVQnhJ gWBQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.157.138 with SMTP id wm10mr7266661igb.65.1339458038070; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.42.217.6 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:40:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C067C55-8320-4D12-A312-F8E2CC699B01@gmail.com> References: <4C067C55-8320-4D12-A312-F8E2CC699B01@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:40:38 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: l6EFFReILm7V4o6Qa3Uu_-8wOWg Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: i pwn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk+XZIDU95fwOEpnDtnAVECb1Kc3x0fosrSloJiCb15OSfUnZMH10zp9D+uEgx2XNq458jv Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: text format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:40:45 -0000 On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:57 PM, i pwn wrote: > hi, sometime ago i asked a question about how to format a text, some people > told me to use groff, but i would like to know how was file > http://ipwn.altervista.org/files/Stoll,%20Clifford%20-%20The%20Cuckoo%27s%20Egg.txt > fomatted. > thanks in advance. Most probably nroff / groff Take a look at the info from the authoring tools at rfceditor: http://www.rfc-editor.org/formatting.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 23:45:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262771065678 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:45:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy9.bluehost.com (oproxy9.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C84D58FC19 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24424 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jun 2012 23:45:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy9.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2012 23:45:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=OOJ8mI/U7DmYFdZuYGG5LO/LPgKBuA9mFeCuIPf051c=; b=B4KXR76iUE9MzzyJ+dYv0y2M5J+XTELjXfeVZgz+CIJ5YkWMaqpK8sDiTcBDWSiRcmsdiga56K8goQArnpfgBHGYr0U/ZiCon5Ehpq3N6GokNwNehhyifsqClI8blvdq; Received: from [24.8.180.234] (port=62690 helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SeEIy-0000Ux-HQ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:45:52 -0600 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:45:52 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120611234552.GC17934@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <0B9FF530-AAE8-4411-8B06-2AD5662CB803@my.gd> <20120609164855.GB31721@hemlock.hydra> <1D0D020B-1F05-4546-A15C-8A721C7BC4AC@my.gd> <20120610072320.43359222@scorpio> <20120611161111.GC20613@hemlock.hydra> <20120611125946.588e447e@scorpio> <20120611174411.GA9858@hemlock.hydra> <20120611144649.134f8496@scorpio> <20120611194436.GA21930@hemlock.hydra> <20120611165311.5ba19839@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120611165311.5ba19839@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:45:54 -0000 On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 04:53:11PM -0400, Jerry wrote: > > . . . You obviously aren't serious. I can't believe I let you string me along with this fantasy for so long. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 00:28:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB624106566B for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:28:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520348FC16 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q5C0TAEv023019; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:29:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:29:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201206120029.q5C0TAEv023019@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, pwnedomina@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4C067C55-8320-4D12-A312-F8E2CC699B01@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: text format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:28:31 -0000 "i pwn" wrote: > > hi, sometime ago i asked a question about how to format a text, some > people told me to use groff, but i would like to know how was file http://ipwn.altervista.org/files/Stoll,%20Clifford%20-%20The%20Cuckoo%27s%20Egg.txt > fomatted. > thanks in advance. >From the output alone, one -cannot- tell for certain. That document could have been produced by any number of programs -- including, but not limited to 'electric pencil', 'pc-write', 'volkswriter', 'xywrite', 'wordstar', 'wordperfect', 'excel', and any form of 'runoff' or its descendants (including but limited to: 'rnf','troff', 'ditroff', 'nroff', 'groff' and others) or even a 'TeX' variant, such as 'LaTeX'. 'Considering the source', ditroff (or a varient) is likely. Probably using the 'me' macro set. There are output quirks that make it unlikely that the 'ms' macroes were used.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 00:31:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC40F106566B for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:31:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A303A8FC16 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E1CB1E805B6; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:31:10 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Robert Simmons Message-ID: <20120612003110.GA2394@thought.org> References: <20120611220232.GA29749@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: any way to grab just One port to upgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:31:11 -0000 On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 06:14:52PM -0400, Robert Simmons wrote: > Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:14:52 -0400 > From: Robert Simmons > Subject: Re: any way to grab just One port to upgrade? > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > it is easy to cvs or cvsup ports and get a whole slew of ports in > > /usr/ports/distfiles, but too often, using portmaster [or another > > tool], I'll have only one of two ports that fail because they are > > either 1) broken, or 2) out of date.  is there any way I can grab > > just the ones that fail to compile?  I'm down to fewer than 50 > > ports. > > and wedged. > > You don't want to have /usr/ports out of sync. You want to let > cvsup/portsnap do it's thing. It's ideal to have the whole ports > collection up-to-date. You may want to start with a clean slate and > cvsup/portsnap a fresh copy of the ports collection if you think that > something is amiss. You can make a backup of /usr/ports for peace of > mind too. > > Also, can you please supply exactly what ports you're talking about > and what commands you are running to upgrade? Error output for the > ports you say are broken would be another good thing to supply. something in x11-toolkits/gtk20 blew up. SOOOO. lolngstoryshrt, I rebuilt from scratch [[ from the very beginning ]] around 2 hours ago. it Just died. here are the last 20 lines:: gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/modules' Making all in demos gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/demos' /usr/local/bin/gdk-pixbuf-csource --raw --build-list \ apple_red ./apple-red.png \ gnome_foot ./gnome-foot.png \ > test-inline-pixbufs.h \ || (rm -f test-inline-pixbufs.h && false) failed to load "./apple-red.png": Couldn't recognize the image file format for file './apple-red.png' gmake[2]: *** [test-inline-pixbufs.h] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/demos' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. root@ethic:/tmp# unless this port is known to be broken, I'll cvsup the ports tree. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Voice By Computer (for Universal Access): http:/www.thought.org/vbc The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 00:38:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3231065670 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qa0-f47.google.com (mail-qa0-f47.google.com [209.85.216.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B197E8FC17 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:38:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qabg1 with SMTP id g1so2457505qab.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:38:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=eSCARBC0dSLAg00d/Zf+ue4jqfTJKuEMQmBI3uAIq04=; b=iW3A6rOwA2iCwOEjxDY8SU8qGA/+QUvtrExGtWRK4mqW8Aq9LaYm//Yo6rF1AbELzV XYv0XSSIz9XU0yDmq+YVmr+b4EdcXvv2jDdaB/WcPhMPUaKj0LP3DqtSlG2w4qnjk6P6 JJJ6cAxwA82MGQn4JLpZm9kHKbNK6RFOSU0666UNqwbPuPEFRkytCCXMNXjasl1QXenC QXwZl0DQTDamR1yLiQb5dLtZ53iyUoBCI4AmFUqTCPATAWZkCKZaAwUFqxrUIstDwsfZ 65mUVry8WjStOEHSH/589vGrtXDQ4IY1eTgdJLZ8C0hz9s9UEdkTAHs7rh0XdWRYVirY WGsw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.137.135 with SMTP id w7mr7107242qct.48.1339461525997; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.25.199 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:38:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120611234552.GC17934@hemlock.hydra> References: <0B9FF530-AAE8-4411-8B06-2AD5662CB803@my.gd> <20120609164855.GB31721@hemlock.hydra> <1D0D020B-1F05-4546-A15C-8A721C7BC4AC@my.gd> <20120610072320.43359222@scorpio> <20120611161111.GC20613@hemlock.hydra> <20120611125946.588e447e@scorpio> <20120611174411.GA9858@hemlock.hydra> <20120611144649.134f8496@scorpio> <20120611194436.GA21930@hemlock.hydra> <20120611165311.5ba19839@scorpio> <20120611234552.GC17934@hemlock.hydra> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:38:44 -0600 Message-ID: From: Modulok To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:38:47 -0000 This thread has united the open source community into doing something useful and constructive. Thanks guys. You really showed 'em. -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 00:48:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9F7106564A for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE518FC0C for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so3134620wer.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:48:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=y8VyyItC7j4jAIynugZ/V4yjvK0LeKWNcyM/Dc2rr+w=; b=FC4r2OrYrDKt0kPAjPyTIWVwxKPO0TltWOZ6WZV2N3q3aInV24W2oVQrbpgBu3SJFB dnxmJO+wpZcW6ONZV/+Mv2iL1gDZR6qWc7yjTKf2P+rhMjmzQUxGgQVAPN4l7vo1EfpK Q6sYSDcjaFwn4pyjTSXiF7ju8vvATBkk0o4oFF7miHeZJgSikz9omE+jxzxw4w0Lsfbv YzgkwxGx3gDidLCAB8gesfYW0VY6pC24Ou5UzTq+TBOL4A/sgDQSsQ2TaUmiFvQE2DSc 5DfeInsX+VVfbvipuMgIIgTWb3FlJTJX7HvUKTWJq7byrJDMN5jm5v4AeOaCfhBhHKVY oezw== Received: by 10.180.92.5 with SMTP id ci5mr24742039wib.19.1339462098506; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] ([2.80.184.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f7sm3323014wiv.2.2012.06.11.17.48.15 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:48:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FD6A057.2070101@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 01:50:15 +0000 From: pwnedomina User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alejandro Imass References: <4C067C55-8320-4D12-A312-F8E2CC699B01@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: text format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:48:25 -0000 On 11-06-2012 23:40, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:57 PM, i pwn wrote: >> hi, sometime ago i asked a question about how to format a text, some people >> told me to use groff, but i would like to know how was file >> http://ipwn.altervista.org/files/Stoll,%20Clifford%20-%20The%20Cuckoo%27s%20Egg.txt >> fomatted. >> thanks in advance. > Most probably nroff / groff > > Take a look at the info from the authoring tools at rfceditor: > > http://www.rfc-editor.org/formatting.html > *formatted. i've downloaded NroffEdit but when i open the ASCII text i want to convert/format, it says "Not a valid nroff I-D" what should i do? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 02:04:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3E9106566C for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:04:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C2F8FC1A for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SeGTP-0006tT-HM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:04:47 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:04:47 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:04:47 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:04:36 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 39 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:04:55 -0000 As the subject says, this is probably a newbie question (I am new to FreeBSD but quite experienced at Linux). FreeBSD9 on x86_64. Cron is running: $ ps -ax|grep cron 1513 ?? Is 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/cron -s 2283 0 S+ 0:00.00 grep cron $ I have a syntactically valid crontab: $ crontab -l #min hr dom month dow command SHELL=/bin/bash PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/home/ daddy/bin HOME=/home/walterh 00 02 * * * /home/walterh/exports.sh 05 02 * * * /home/walterh/backup_etc.sh 10 02 * * * /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh 15 02 * * * /home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh $ So what is wrong? Why is nothing happening? I have consulted the handbook but see nothing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 02:10:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4674F106566C for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E868FC08 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbmv11 with SMTP id v11so3179252vbm.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:10:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=bvFsOONM7dxMUU2BV/ndqnZfAntsyQQXHRMIcEtA8WU=; b=mmEmPeCmMfFtLwFGRYdqeaSIXYUmO9WnykWCtDnKJkWHT1Vnbatgs23N8UcRQyyhJM H0MP48NY4pxCR0RRRWuoCXm2YSougXAjN34OuNJUu0v4cSaGr1798GCNibLHS/tCqd/B eaxtaESCMd/97J0ICMvnSA7MoHTjs8xY/myoQVmJP8YtW8qCoC/OVIvw5gtEGZnSIP2+ 8VX9bNCBN2tbcT/74sTH8H1xfWaB1I/DvzRa2NcyXzYl9RIQgnMVPP+cFUgEL9o3gnri ZovMsrjtPUlIuxci1brWDPAawmxtruXvfbLp0rSzun9vwG3WOBDwXKjRIVJf24fl2YPo cE7A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.98.39 with SMTP id ef7mr11349860vdb.131.1339467021304; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.106.166 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:10:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:10:21 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Walter Hurry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnsXR7U7wvuRT8akCvgDQ5oIn1w/4We62J3eWOblxW1nfty29E81CeGgOmXs7SwI/DFW/B8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:10:23 -0000 On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Walter Hurry wrote= : > As the subject says, this is probably a newbie question (I am new to > FreeBSD but quite experienced at Linux). > > FreeBSD9 on x86_64. > > Cron is running: > > $ ps -ax|grep cron > > =A01513 =A0?? =A0Is =A0 =A0 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/cron -s > > =A02283 =A0 0 =A0S+ =A0 =A0 0:00.00 grep cron > > $ > > I have a syntactically valid crontab: > > $ crontab -l > #min hr dom month dow command > > SHELL=3D/bin/bash > > PATH=3D/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/home= / > daddy/bin > > HOME=3D/home/walterh > > =A000 =A002 * =A0 * =A0 =A0 * =A0 /home/walterh/exports.sh > > =A005 =A002 * =A0 * =A0 =A0 * =A0 /home/walterh/backup_etc.sh > > =A010 =A002 * =A0 * =A0 =A0 * =A0 /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh > > =A015 =A002 * =A0 * =A0 =A0 * =A0 /home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh > > $ > > So what is wrong? Why is nothing happening? I have consulted the handbook > but see nothing. Have you installed bash? It's not in the system base. What's in your shell scripts? - M From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 02:21:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2758B106564A for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:21:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB888FC12 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so3174768wer.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:21:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=tK/CrL66q2iVtNGMJZrKPw7+Q+ALtc5FPlrtijFFM30=; b=WIAO0yvaMOuKZkmPim5+1UtSZTRJbu9EUjvfZQslxZn5ujH1681uHiSjPHKLcq0+fH UJTyEBso4SjoFe8c8DAGzvGroSKNvLsqIn0EvzJzUItT5cGbypqxBsIwn2vrl6/6tQY9 n+j9O9aGWgDR74Fpkp3xSdZy+lqC3xqUIb2iA3CmW7Fhv2LmYOqoimd6yPxQoV29roek hSCwQa0ZJkXf1/ROjA7lnDtWQwL7PGQhWXVPzLp4LRWbbfFkHrRvERfIHx6aHWTaHd5J flPt/CLU/hlh+24/E6zo/ygI7d2+jn9dZy5bMlFarATsRuio9WWummoV5y5hQ7B+dCMV LXXA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.50.140 with SMTP id z12mr7305010web.11.1339467672715; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.88.155 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:21:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:21:12 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Walter Hurry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:21:15 -0000 On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: > > #min hr dom month dow command > > SHELL=/bin/bash > > PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/home/ > daddy/bin > > HOME=/home/walterh > > 00 02 * * * /home/walterh/exports.sh > > 05 02 * * * /home/walterh/backup_etc.sh > > 10 02 * * * /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh > > 15 02 * * * /home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh > > $ > > So what is wrong? Why is nothing happening? I have consulted the handbook > but see nothing. > You really have bash in /bin ? Are your scripts executable? What does /var/log/cron say? -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 02:26:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96166106566C for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:26:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE2B8FC0A for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SeGo1-0001v9-9S for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:26:05 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:26:05 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:26:05 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:25:49 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:26:09 -0000 On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:10:21 -0700, Michael Sierchio wrote: > Have you installed bash? It's not in the system base. > > What's in your shell scripts? Thanks for the quick response. $ pkg_info|grep bash bash-4.2.28 The GNU Project's Bourne Again SHell $ which bash /bin/bash $ $ less $HOME/bin/exports.sh #!/bin/bash LOG=$HOME/log/exports.log logger -t walterh-cronjob Exports started echo Exports started at `date` > $LOG rm $HOME/postgresql/* psql packages -f $HOME/sql/exports.sql cd $HOME/postgresql tar cfz postgresql.tgz * rm *csv echo Exports finished at `date` >> $LOG logger -t walterh-cronjob Exports finished /home/walterh/bin/exports.sh (END) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 02:36:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F54106564A for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:36:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9555E8FC1D for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:36:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfy7 with SMTP id fy7so3098469vcb.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:36:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=AnImRsdHFBpBbOy8Y/mhZ2A9qmepxhY7OdYv4uw51tk=; b=VHzUupnIKKVTVdaOwpVrkaJl4aeHMtJYQIKnX/q0UkXHFwAt7mPafCkZwXkEQRqk1A h7fBGWvUCtZNmBirXC0yW/GJFIb70FJaf8uFC83Hbk/Cgb6tEe5ljdd1KHeFaXM/QU9Z iIXb1VLNEy4YqY3/C4qY+gyWe0RbE4XuYYJ3cKNqOq3b4ToKaJCEkshJcF0qjt8FpIGF vmvky6/Lqky+S5RoVE4sg6AoyT9RSXfslxLK0ciX76y5Sssu10dvwRFQkzeXuZkSNnqm XopoJWvG1WTfsfqBq1ea6LD8t5wI9GYiKoYJLRIHbbevMnoZsouxnyiwKIWVDjYn18uZ +hMg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.174.52 with SMTP id bp20mr11313665vdc.29.1339468588734; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.106.166 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:36:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:36:28 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Walter Hurry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmpdGawBS3RET/40O4IhrzLrUGQllCvwf7pYqSws4T7hyC3oWyP9ykUgBItpQKDBOebAsHL Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:36:30 -0000 On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: cat /etc/shells From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 02:47:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7632106564A for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:47:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0948FC14 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:47:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SeH96-0006uk-Lz for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:47:52 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:47:52 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:47:52 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:47:40 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:47:56 -0000 On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:21:12 -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > You really have bash in /bin ? Are your scripts executable? What does > /var/log/cron say? $ file /bin/bash /bin/bash: symbolic link to `/usr/local/bin/bash' $ sudo tail -50 /var/log/cron (result snipped at 02:22:00 for brevity) Jun 12 01:55:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1780]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/ atrun) Jun 12 02:00:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1823]: (root) CMD (newsyslog) Jun 12 02:00:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1825]: (operator) CMD (/usr/ libexec/save-entropy) Jun 12 02:00:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1824]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/ atrun) Jun 12 02:00:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1836]: (walterh) CMD (/home/ walterh/exports.sh) Jun 12 02:01:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1849]: (root) CMD (adjkerntz -a) Jun 12 02:05:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1874]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/ atrun) Jun 12 02:05:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1875]: (walterh) CMD (/home/ walterh/backup_etc.sh) Jun 12 02:10:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1912]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/ atrun) Jun 12 02:10:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1913]: (walterh) CMD (/home/ walterh/systemcheck.sh) Jun 12 02:11:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1924]: (operator) CMD (/usr/ libexec/save-entropy) Jun 12 02:15:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1981]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/ atrun) Jun 12 02:15:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1982]: (walterh) CMD (/home/ walterh/backup_bsd.sh) Jun 12 02:20:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[2013]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/ atrun) Jun 12 02:22:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[2025]: (operator) CMD (/usr/ libexec/save-entropy) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 02:55:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D07106564A for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:55:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769F68FC12 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:55:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SeHG7-00062N-GH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:55:07 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:55:07 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:55:07 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:51:24 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:55:12 -0000 On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:36:28 -0700, Michael Sierchio wrote: > cat /etc/shells $ cat /etc/shells # $FreeBSD: release/9.0.0/etc/shells 59717 2000-04-27 21:58:46Z ache $ # # List of acceptable shells for chpass(1). # Ftpd will not allow users to connect who are not using # one of these shells. /bin/sh /bin/csh /bin/tcsh /usr/local/bin/bash /usr/local/bin/rbash $ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 02:56:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDEF1065677 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:56:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from omr8.networksolutionsemail.com (omr8.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B958FC14 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cm-omr9 (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by omr8.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q5C2l4D4030507 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:47:04 -0400 Authentication-Results: cm-omr9 smtp.user=racerx@makeworld.com; auth=pass (CRAM-MD5) X-Authenticated-UID: racerx@makeworld.com Received: from [50.44.138.106] ([50.44.138.106:11424] helo=[192.168.222.21]) by cm-omr9 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTPA id 3C/08-05613-8ADA6DF4; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:47:04 -0400 Message-ID: <4FD6ADAA.1020402@makeworld.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:47:06 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:56:02 -0000 On 6/11/2012 9:25 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:10:21 -0700, Michael Sierchio wrote: > >> Have you installed bash? It's not in the system base. >> >> What's in your shell scripts? > > Thanks for the quick response. > > $ pkg_info|grep bash > > bash-4.2.28 The GNU Project's Bourne Again SHell > > $ which bash > > /bin/bash > > $ > > $ less $HOME/bin/exports.sh > > #!/bin/bash > > LOG=$HOME/log/exports.log > > logger -t walterh-cronjob Exports started > > echo Exports started at `date` > $LOG > > rm $HOME/postgresql/* > > psql packages -f $HOME/sql/exports.sql > > cd $HOME/postgresql > > tar cfz postgresql.tgz * > > rm *csv > > echo Exports finished at `date` >> $LOG > > logger -t walterh-cronjob Exports finished > > /home/walterh/bin/exports.sh (END) > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > I tend to use full path names in my shell scripts. So for shits n giggles, try that. Instead of tar cfz postgresql.tgz * Try /bin/tar cfz postgresql.tgz * etc, etc, etc Use the paths for all commands such as rm, psql, logger etc. -- Keep well, Chris <>< From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 03:36:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534F3106566C for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:36:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fallofzero@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280688FC14 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:36:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadv36 with SMTP id v36so6581822dad.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:36:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=X3HTLQpYPb8/RnKHP1XLljSYi1xw0RxJ+Nk3TyARZto=; b=byO+0kUpA3wi6y2nhkPqq7CMmO8PT7Ele1Be9HBGaLpxwUv10K8wj6zxVuPwXMFU4F sIs5RDrQBC2eXgN7LuHfQGKRW+3k3kx23wCgJI//kQiJf6diAJcNZRuPiWmvR+DlJVq2 CHkhPeVkCmoRGX1ObHVczUAhDe9BGE1C9s6QVsy8q9Qqq7p6HSrgA1cSyjuyg0QT4l++ y/H6qA9hipvlsFfCVPwHZw3GLy02dGcPy7vdbbsrwNLFMb9sDUQKxRBMAQ7/CgBKhv/F zjaaW+sP1vLdrJ+OSA5VZB55I0A0bX4kM048iU4hE/4oOtLXNTbmaoyONowhgDYI3MkV v34A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.136.106 with SMTP id pz10mr33801311pbb.143.1339472160717; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.58.101 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:36:00 -0600 Message-ID: From: Arlen McIntyre To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: note X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:36:01 -0000 I have a ASUS laptop that came with Windows 7. I finally ended up with XP on one partition and Ubuntu on the other. ASUS only supports the Windows 7 OS with this particular architect. I want to keep XP on one partition and put FreeBSD on the other partition ( I already have created). The problem is that the files I see for installation are ISO files for booting. I don't have audio in XP but it worked in Ubuntu. I was told by an authorized ASUS dealer that I would not find any support from them because of switching from the pre-installed Windows 7. I cannot update the drivers in the BIOS to tell my laptop to boot from DVD/CD. How can I get FreeBSD on my other partition and have a dual OS system without the boot installation? I cannot afford to buy FreeBSD. Thanks, Derek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 03:37:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E361065672 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:37:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E226C8FC0C for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:37:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-177.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.177]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646973CEBE; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:37:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q5C3bRD9002025; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:37:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:37:27 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20120612053727.496f4688.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120612003110.GA2394@thought.org> References: <20120611220232.GA29749@thought.org> <20120612003110.GA2394@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Simmons Subject: Re: any way to grab just One port to upgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:37:36 -0000 On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:31:10 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 06:14:52PM -0400, Robert Simmons wrote: > > Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:14:52 -0400 > > From: Robert Simmons > > Subject: Re: any way to grab just One port to upgrade? > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >=20 > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > it is easy to cvs or cvsup ports and get a whole slew of ports in > > > /usr/ports/distfiles, but too often, using portmaster [or another > > > tool], I'll have only one of two ports that fail because they are > > > either 1) broken, or 2) out of date. =A0is there any way I can grab > > > just the ones that fail to compile? =A0I'm down to fewer than 50 > > > ports. > > > and wedged. > >=20 > > You don't want to have /usr/ports out of sync. You want to let > > cvsup/portsnap do it's thing. It's ideal to have the whole ports > > collection up-to-date. You may want to start with a clean slate and > > cvsup/portsnap a fresh copy of the ports collection if you think that > > something is amiss. You can make a backup of /usr/ports for peace of > > mind too. > >=20 > > Also, can you please supply exactly what ports you're talking about > > and what commands you are running to upgrade? Error output for the > > ports you say are broken would be another good thing to supply. >=20 > something in x11-toolkits/gtk20 blew up. SOOOO. > lolngstoryshrt, I rebuilt from scratch [[ from the very > beginning ]] around 2 hours ago. it Just died. here are > the last 20 lines:: >=20 >=20 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/modules' > Making all in demos > gmake[2]: Entering directory > `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/demos' > /usr/local/bin/gdk-pixbuf-csource --raw --build-list \ > apple_red ./apple-red.png \ > gnome_foot ./gnome-foot.png \ > > test-inline-pixbufs.h \ > || (rm -f test-inline-pixbufs.h && false) > failed to load "./apple-red.png": Couldn't recognize the image file > format for file './apple-red.png' > gmake[2]: *** [test-inline-pixbufs.h] Error 1 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/demos' > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6' > gmake: *** [all] Error 2 > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. > root@ethic:/tmp#=20 >=20 > unless this port is known to be broken, I'll cvsup the ports > tree. If you're using csup instead of portsnap, you can get "faster" updates of your ports tree (as portsnap transmits snapshots which are less frequently taken). In case you intendedly need to DOWNgrade a port (maybe because the newer version doesn't work anymore, like the xzgv image viewer), use the "portdowngrade" tool. As it as been mentioned, having an out-of-sync ports tree is not recommended and can lead to trouble. So for example, if gtk20 fails, remove its cruft ("make clean" for this port and maybe its dependencies; maybe also remove the distfiles it downloaded), and update via CVS some hours after the incident. It sometimes happens that the problems magically resolve. :-) It's recommended to restart port builds in a somewhat clean environment, that's why it sometimes really helps to delete files of a previous build. Are you using a port management tool (e. g. portmaster) or do you operate "on bare ports")? --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 03:42:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D28FC106564A for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:42:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86CC18FC1C for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:42:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbmv11 with SMTP id v11so3213063vbm.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:42:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=P76jOv0mAl9DOnuHEGxeFaKE8qIOhJb55alFMN78GMY=; b=QTRzYtTXOGikdowuw3RZuitu6ppnQmysA3XQKBZOguIrGs3QBEy5/QYrNavv9lPWl5 lHQl2UPwOsflVUEfI6g43/3PXqcYiVQ8n7MERolb8Q1y5RFHWiKY+BOgqVw5Wk3jbPIP lBCr1uDWcmd7amaxc9LouMdWNMiFnVsxxUg/S8B/RbisvBxPexq92zaeju5S9xc5MeAO T8owMJ4AtVhgpv5WOyxduxNY/iBWd9NHDK94eH5l2ggMBGi0/Pb+iLpIO8rhwEFuvBKz EIkHJqAv0qkHPF0pxpbhz/HriAkN/+XktZIN8WvlUUkRcZ/RIvYPNEY3WR018hk8DMVf 6b7g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.209.75 with SMTP id gf11mr13794330vcb.56.1339472568948; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.106.166 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:42:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:42:48 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Arlen McIntyre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkdPF2LyXgcINMEjfZXo48IpkHCanmxfR25KQCLqxxefY1W8h052ENuCU7LW4n1ae9XJjOR Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: note X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:42:50 -0000 On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Arlen McIntyre wrot= e: > =A0 I cannot afford to buy FreeBSD. Dada is not dead! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 03:44:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8EF41065672 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:44:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8855A8FC21 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:44:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-177.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.177]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C79F53CEA2; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:44:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q5C3iVwv002054; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:44:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:44:31 +0200 From: Polytropon To: pwnedomina Message-Id: <20120612054431.b630e37a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4FD6A057.2070101@gmail.com> References: <4C067C55-8320-4D12-A312-F8E2CC699B01@gmail.com> <4FD6A057.2070101@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: text format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:44:32 -0000 On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 01:50:15 +0000, pwnedomina wrote: > On 11-06-2012 23:40, Alejandro Imass wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:57 PM, i pwn wrote: > >> hi, sometime ago i asked a question about how to format a text, some people > >> told me to use groff, but i would like to know how was file > >> http://ipwn.altervista.org/files/Stoll,%20Clifford%20-%20The%20Cuckoo%27s%20Egg.txt > >> fomatted. > >> thanks in advance. > > Most probably nroff / groff > > > > Take a look at the info from the authoring tools at rfceditor: > > > > http://www.rfc-editor.org/formatting.html > > > *formatted. > i've downloaded NroffEdit but when i open the ASCII text i want to > convert/format, it says "Not a valid nroff I-D" > what should i do? Erm, you did open the output file (as pointed to), _not_ the source file? You're trying to "edit text in a document you've scanned". :-) The output text can be edited with any text editor (vi, emacs, joe, mcedit, whichever is your favourite), but it will be kept in this format as it _has been_ generated that way (past tense). In order to change formatting, you need the SOURCE file with the macros. (Compare: HTML files rendered by browser: output looks different than input; to change it, you need to edit the HTML source.) You can compare that to editing a man page: You need the page's source (like found in /usr/src/share/examples/mdoc/example.1). The text's SOURCE file would have looked similarly I assume. THAT is the input format you need for the "NroffEdit" WYSIWYG "text" editor. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 03:53:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E057106564A for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:53:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC908FC0C for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:53:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-177.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.177]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980AB3CE0B; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:53:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q5C3rtU5002110; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:53:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:53:55 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Arlen McIntyre Message-Id: <20120612055355.d52f9943.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: note X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:53:56 -0000 On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:36:00 -0600, Arlen McIntyre wrote: > How can I get FreeBSD on > my other partition and have a dual OS system without the boot installation? Qustion part one: Prepare a USB stick with the FreeBSD "memstick edition". You'll find instructions on how to do that on the FreeBSD website, as well as the installation media. Preparation: Make sure you have _free_ disk space. This means: Do not create any DOS partitions, just leave it "empty" and let the installer perform the required tasks of partitioning and formatting. Question part two: Install the FreeBSD boot manager (which is one of the first steps during the installation process). You can then select at system startup which OS to boot into. > I cannot afford to buy FreeBSD. I'm sorry to hear that, but it won't be a problem. You won't go to jail, don't be frightened. Just install it. It's free. :-) No really: FreeBSD _is_ free to download and to use. You don't need to buy it (even though you _may_ do so; refer to the FreeBSD website for details). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 04:34:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8E4106566C for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:34:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710598FC0A for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:34:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfy7 with SMTP id fy7so3140439vcb.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:34:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8NVuAB4ChE1Ni2IPro597V10gzzicUeLa7SbWdxyUQg=; b=db8ksJoiDlYv54xLGxKsfpOcgGBFOozdCZ7ohfrJQggFSItMVWKNDo3pJfdS/Cjf6z WpPnVVu7GbIA+6EmS9utFYPJRjZRprEvXk/FZRcX+9cLmQFRNQdp51BKj5NDQIDMl0vS jVAoMYaDpPUWE98weGPo4Y8A1Bds+jHhp5erOQnhr5cIrgbTOnltNQu89VZ3r4563dSk /8Hn2WlMSMKVLYZ/6XUZne8jV/XF7sG7XILvvnu15/1WuaX5WMuVp8bZL0GX8gYiyaQg 4FqKgcnryus9aK95u1sxrY9g8e9l0AjHwRFfflaPub6JPiPJ65rvsu000jA62W56z99N 595Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.226.68 with SMTP id iv4mr13905215vcb.21.1339475684688; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.113.97 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:34:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120612003110.GA2394@thought.org> References: <20120611220232.GA29749@thought.org> <20120612003110.GA2394@thought.org> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:34:44 -0400 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: any way to grab just One port to upgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:34:45 -0000 On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 06:14:52PM -0400, Robert Simmons wrote: >> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:14:52 -0400 >> From: Robert Simmons >> Subject: Re: any way to grab just One port to upgrade? >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> >> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Gary Kline wrote: >> > it is easy to cvs or cvsup ports and get a whole slew of ports in >> > /usr/ports/distfiles, but too often, using portmaster [or another >> > tool], I'll have only one of two ports that fail because they are >> > either 1) broken, or 2) out of date. =A0is there any way I can grab >> > just the ones that fail to compile? =A0I'm down to fewer than 50 >> > ports. >> > and wedged. >> >> You don't want to have /usr/ports out of sync. =A0You want to let >> cvsup/portsnap do it's thing. =A0It's ideal to have the whole ports >> collection up-to-date. =A0You may want to start with a clean slate and >> cvsup/portsnap a fresh copy of the ports collection if you think that >> something is amiss. =A0You can make a backup of /usr/ports for peace of >> mind too. >> >> Also, can you please supply exactly what ports you're talking about >> and what commands you are running to upgrade? =A0Error output for the >> ports you say are broken would be another good thing to supply. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0something in x11-toolkits/gtk20 blew up. =A0SOOOO. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0lolngstoryshrt, I rebuilt from scratch [[ from the very > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0beginning ]] around 2 hours ago. =A0it Just died. =A0here = are > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0the last 20 lines:: > > > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/modules' > Making all in demos > gmake[2]: Entering directory > `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/demos' > /usr/local/bin/gdk-pixbuf-csource --raw --build-list =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0\ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0apple_red =A0./apple-red.png =A0 =A0 =A0\ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0gnome_foot ./gnome-foot.png =A0 =A0 \ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0> test-inline-pixbufs.h =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 \ > || (rm -f test-inline-pixbufs.h && false) > failed to load "./apple-red.png": Couldn't recognize the image file > format for file './apple-red.png' > gmake[2]: *** [test-inline-pixbufs.h] Error 1 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/demos' > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6' > gmake: *** [all] Error 2 > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. > root@ethic:/tmp# > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0unless this port is known to be broken, I'll cvsup the por= ts > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0tree. That may not be necessary. I'm building gtk20 on a freshly installed virtual machine with a freshly portsnap'd ports tree. I noticed the following in the CVS logs: CVS log for ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/Makefile Revision 1.256: download - view: text, markup, annotated - select for diffs Fri Jun 1 05:25:47 2012 UTC (10 days, 22 hours ago) by dinoex Branches: MAIN CVS tags: HEAD Diff to: previous 1.255: preferred, colored Changes since revision 1.255: +1 -1 lines - update png to 1.5.10 Since png just changed, and the error you encountered is "failed to load "./apple-red.png": Couldn't recognize the image file", I think you may have run into a bug. I'll find out in the morning when the build is done. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 05:05:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553751065673 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:05:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BABD8FC0C for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:05:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q5C56L2H026673; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:06:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:06:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201206120506.q5C56L2H026673@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, walterhurry@gmail.com In-Reply-To: Cc: Subject: Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:05:42 -0000 Walter Hurry wrote: > > As the subject says, this is probably a newbie question (I am new to > FreeBSD but quite experienced at Linux). > > FreeBSD9 on x86_64. > > Cron is running: > > $ ps -ax|grep cron > > 1513 ?? Is 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/cron -s > > 2283 0 S+ 0:00.00 grep cron > > $ > > I have a syntactically valid crontab: 'Syntactically valid', yes, but I believe "it does not mean what you think it does" applies. more below. > $ crontab -l > #min hr dom month dow command > > SHELL=/bin/bash > > PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/home/ > daddy/bin > > HOME=/home/walterh > > 00 02 * * * /home/walterh/exports.sh > > 05 02 * * * /home/walterh/backup_etc.sh > > 10 02 * * * /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh > > 15 02 * * * /home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh > > $ > > So what is wrong? Why is nothing happening? I have consulted the handbook > but see nothing. It _appears_ that there is whitespace _before_ the purporte 'minutes' value on each line that you intend to invoke a command. If so, -THAT- is probably what is causinng the unexpected behavior. I believe cron is looking for the 'minutes' value _before_ any white space, and using a value of '0' when it finds 'nothing' before the white-space Field-separator. That, thus, the all the commands run at 'zero minutes' past the various hours, on the -second- day of the month, and that command-line that cron would -attempt- to execute on the 2nd looks like, "* /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh", which, of course will have *wildly* unexpected results, epecially if the first element of the '*' expansion _is_ marked as executable. Remove the leading white-space and things should work the way you 'expect'. Comment: using a leading zero on the numeric fields is a BAD IDEA(tm) -- you are *strongly* encocuraged to remove them. Yes, that means numbers will not be column aligned, but it is a small price to pay to avoid the hair-tearing that =will= ensue when using it bites you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 05:55:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9991065673 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:55:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374C08FC1D for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:55:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [71.20.75.102]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B3B516B4A6; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:55:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:53:32 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:53:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.larseighnerhome.com To: Arlen McIntyre In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: note X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:55:14 -0000 On Mon, 11 Jun 2012, Arlen McIntyre wrote: > I have a ASUS laptop that came with Windows 7. I finally > ended up with XP on one partition and Ubuntu on the other. > ASUS only supports the Windows 7 OS with this particular > architect. I want to keep XP on one partition and put FreeBSD > on the other partition ( I already have created). The problem is that > the files I see for installation are ISO files for booting. > I don't have audio in XP but it worked in Ubuntu. I was told by > an authorized ASUS dealer that I would not find any support from them > because of switching from the pre-installed Windows 7. I cannot update the > drivers in the BIOS > to tell my laptop to boot from DVD/CD. Really? What happens when you press F2 and keep it down during boot? > How can I get FreeBSD on > my other partition and have a dual OS system without the boot installation? > > I cannot afford to buy FreeBSD. FreeBSD is not for sale. It is free. Some services will sell releases on CD or DVD, generally at very affordable prices which are well worth it compared to downloading by dial-up. But what those services are selling is the media and the service of copying FreeBSD to the media and getting the media into your hands. You can download and/or install FreeBSD for free. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 08:06:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D3C106564A for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8CE88FC12 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:06:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so3355190wer.13 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 01:06:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; bh=hit7i38qlVhtrFzpZAGPPXXlQ1zeexSQL2eoNc7cH8g=; b=XDIt9JY1m4ADCvruLjjonjyma9dT/5AjRzHREuZ4uCek4nPQNhEfoLjzkq6Fx3g65K 6cOyePOP9rh6vzvYNbLjO1ndoPBoF/EikuinE2NYA4rE7+v7szcCm1kZIfPS7bw/z5VU rJRrY1UarG/3pyaZrGwglSEce/bLSqod2eqyhHCgPUoWp+J9xi2QuLf8XXAUfWMZwcTH EBxe8BHSK9+GiLr1SQbesLXQ/lIWdUonY6/hsVuI3cJZILQHX6TxOUAuRJdsSRR+2SLI l1qUprhe6s8l4oxHoD1a23BKpHNDg+1opAP1Ze86GZFG/IoOqvRWMk2Pmbt6M9r1lK/Z zm6g== Received: by 10.216.142.146 with SMTP id i18mr8341865wej.74.1339488371144; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 01:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.84] (bl19-184-171.dsl.telepac.pt. [2.80.184.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ch9sm6822341wib.8.2012.06.12.01.06.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 01:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <7F5F7609-DB36-4E37-9196-92B797732C1D@gmail.com> From: i pwn To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20120612054431.b630e37a.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:06:07 +0100 References: <4C067C55-8320-4D12-A312-F8E2CC699B01@gmail.com> <4FD6A057.2070101@gmail.com> <20120612054431.b630e37a.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: text format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:06:13 -0000 on groff i've used this cmd to format the text groff -Tascii < normal.txt | sed 's/^/ /'$1 > formatted.txt on nroff what would be the cmd? On Jun 12, 2012, at 4:44 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 01:50:15 +0000, pwnedomina wrote: >> On 11-06-2012 23:40, Alejandro Imass wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:57 PM, i pwn wrote: >>>> hi, sometime ago i asked a question about how to format a text, >>>> some people >>>> told me to use groff, but i would like to know how was file >>>> http://ipwn.altervista.org/files/Stoll,%20Clifford%20-%20The%20Cuckoo%27s%20Egg.txt >>>> fomatted. >>>> thanks in advance. >>> Most probably nroff / groff >>> >>> Take a look at the info from the authoring tools at rfceditor: >>> >>> http://www.rfc-editor.org/formatting.html >>> >> *formatted. >> i've downloaded NroffEdit but when i open the ASCII text i want to >> convert/format, it says "Not a valid nroff I-D" >> what should i do? > > Erm, you did open the output file (as pointed to), _not_ the > source file? You're trying to "edit text in a document you've > scanned". :-) > > The output text can be edited with any text editor (vi, emacs, > joe, mcedit, whichever is your favourite), but it will be kept > in this format as it _has been_ generated that way (past tense). > In order to change formatting, you need the SOURCE file with > the macros. (Compare: HTML files rendered by browser: output > looks different than input; to change it, you need to edit > the HTML source.) > > You can compare that to editing a man page: You need the page's > source (like found in /usr/src/share/examples/mdoc/example.1). > The text's SOURCE file would have looked similarly I assume. > THAT is the input format you need for the "NroffEdit" WYSIWYG > "text" editor. > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... --- JID:ipwn#cih.ms HP:ipwn.altervista.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 08:14:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1451065674 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:14:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16A08FC0A for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:14:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SeMEq-0003wo-Hr; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:14:08 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SeMEZ-0000qa-7c; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:14:08 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5C8DotR025706; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:13:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q5C8D6TF025678; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:13:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:13:06 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Subhro Sankha Kar Message-ID: <20120612081306.GA25637@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Subhro Sankha Kar , Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120611113135.GA99238@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't kill -9 Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:14:10 -0000 On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:07:06AM +0530, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote: > Hello > > What happens if you run without a xorg.conf? Xorg has become pretty good at guessing correct settings these days. > No change. I removed /etc/X11/xorg.conf completely. # X X.Org X Server 1.7.7 Release Date: 2010-05-04 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64 Current Operating System: FreeBSD mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r236740M: Sat Jun 9 22:35:49 BST 2012 root@mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUZI amd64 Build Date: 11 June 2012 12:11:20PM Current version of pixman: 0.24.2 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Jun 12 09:10:17 2012 (==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines) (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0) (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0) XRANDR name: VGA-0 Connector: VGA CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1 DDC reg: 0x7e50 XRANDR name: LVDS Connector: LVDS LCD1: INTERNAL_LVTM1 DDC reg: 0x7e40 Dac detection success finished output detect: 0 finished output detect: 1 finished all detect Dac detection success Output LCD1 disable success Blank CRTC 0 success Disable CRTC 0 success Blank CRTC 1 success Disable CRTC 1 success Output CRT1 disable success Output LCD1 disable success Blank CRTC 0 success Disable CRTC 0 success Blank CRTC 1 success Disable CRTC 1 success ^C^C^C Can kill it with neither CTRL/C nor kill -9: # ps ax|grep X 1060 0 R+ 0:38.95 X (Xorg) 1073 1 R+ 0:00.01 grep X # kill -9 1060 # ps ax|grep X 1060 0 RE+ 0:45.71 X (Xorg) 1089 1 R+ 0:00.00 grep X # Anton > Thanks > -- > Subhro Sankha Kar > System Administrator > Working and Playing with FreeBSD since 2002 > > On 11-Jun-2012, at 5:01 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > My X is unusable since the recent png update. > > > > This is r236740M on HP Compaq 6715s amd64 laptop. > > > > I've no hal installed (if this matters). > > > > # pkg info -x xorg > > linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 10) > > xorg-cf-files-1.0.4 X.org cf files for use with imake builds > > xorg-fonts-7.5.1 X.org fonts meta-port > > xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.5.1 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts > > xorg-fonts-75dpi-7.5.1 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts > > xorg-fonts-cyrillic-7.5.1 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts > > xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-7.5.1 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts > > xorg-fonts-truetype-7.5.1 X.Org TrueType fonts > > xorg-fonts-type1-7.5.1 X.Org Type1 fonts > > xorg-libraries-7.5.1 X.org libraries meta-port > > xorg-macros-1.16.1 X.Org development aclocal macros > > xorg-server-1.7.7_5,1 X.Org X server and related programs > > # > > > > # pkg info -x xf86 > > libXxf86dga-1.1.2 X DGA Extension > > libXxf86misc-1.0.3 X XF86-Misc Extension > > libXxf86vm-1.1.1 X Vidmode Extension > > xf86-input-keyboard-1.6.1 X.Org keyboard input driver > > xf86-input-mouse-1.7.1 X.Org mouse input driver > > xf86-video-ati-6.14.3_1 X.Org ati display driver > > xf86bigfontproto-1.2.0 XFree86-Bigfont extension headers > > xf86dgaproto-2.1 XFree86-DGA extension headers > > xf86driproto-2.1.1 XFree86-DRI extension headers > > xf86miscproto-0.9.3 XFree86-Misc extension headers > > xf86vidmodeproto-2.3.1 XFree86-VidModeExtension extension headers > > # > > > > My xorg.conf.new: > > > > > > Section "ServerLayout" > > Identifier "X.org Configured" > > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > > Option "AllowEmptyInput" "Off" > > EndSection > > > > Section "Files" > > ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" > > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" > > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" > > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" > > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" > > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" > > EndSection > > > > Section "Module" > > Load "extmod" > > Load "record" > > Load "dbe" > > Load "glx" > > Load "dri" > > Load "dri2" > > EndSection > > > > Section "InputDevice" > > Identifier "Keyboard0" > > Driver "kbd" > > EndSection > > > > Section "InputDevice" > > Identifier "Mouse0" > > Driver "mouse" > > Option "Protocol" "auto" > > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" > > EndSection > > > > Section "Monitor" > > #DisplaySize 330 210 # mm > > Identifier "Monitor0" > > VendorName "LPL" > > ModelName "d600" > > EndSection > > > > Section "Device" > > Identifier "Card0" > > Driver "radeon" > > VendorName "Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI" > > BoardName "RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]" > > BusID "PCI:1:5:0" > > Option "int10" "on" > > Option "BusType" "PCIE" > > Option "RenderAccel" "on" > > Option "AccelMethod" "xaa" > > Option "DynamicPM" "on" > > Option "DRI" "on" > > EndSection > > > > Section "Screen" > > Identifier "Screen0" > > Device "Card0" > > Monitor "Monitor0" > > SubSection "Display" > > Viewport 0 0 > > Depth 1 > > EndSubSection > > SubSection "Display" > > Viewport 0 0 > > Depth 4 > > EndSubSection > > SubSection "Display" > > Viewport 0 0 > > Depth 8 > > EndSubSection > > SubSection "Display" > > Viewport 0 0 > > Depth 15 > > EndSubSection > > SubSection "Display" > > Viewport 0 0 > > Depth 16 > > EndSubSection > > SubSection "Display" > > Viewport 0 0 > > Depth 24 > > EndSubSection > > EndSection > > > > > > The Xorg.0.log: > > > > > > > > X.Org X Server 1.7.7 > > Release Date: 2010-05-04 > > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 > > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64 > > Current Operating System: FreeBSD mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r236740M: Sat Jun 9 22:35:49 BST 2012 root@mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUZI amd64 > > Build Date: 11 June 2012 12:11:20PM > > > > Current version of pixman: 0.24.2 > > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org > > to make sure that you have the latest version. > > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Jun 11 12:24:08 2012 > > (++) Using config file: "/root/xorg.conf.new" > > (==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured" > > (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) > > (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" > > (**) | |-->Device "Card0" > > (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" > > (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" > > (**) Option "AllowEmptyInput" "Off" > > (==) Not automatically adding devices > > (==) Not automatically enabling devices > > (**) FontPath set to: > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ > > (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" > > (II) Loader magic: 0x7bd3c0 > > (II) Module ABI versions: > > X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 > > X.Org Video Driver: 6.0 > > X.Org XInput driver : 7.0 > > X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 > > (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) > > (--) using VT number 9 > > > > (--) PCI:*(0:1:5:0) 1002:791f:103c:30c2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series] rev 0, Mem @ 0xc0000000/134217728, 0xd0200000/65536, 0xd0300000/1048576, I/O @ 0x00004000/256, BIOS @ 0x????????/65536 > > (II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. > > (II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. > > (II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. > > (II) "record" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. > > (II) "dri" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. > > (II) "dri2" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. > > (II) LoadModule: "extmod" > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so > > (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 > > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 > > (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER > > (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension > > (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA > > (II) Loading extension DPMS > > (II) Loading extension XVideo > > (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation > > (II) Loading extension X-Resource > > (II) LoadModule: "record" > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so > > (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.13.0 > > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 > > (II) Loading extension RECORD > > (II) LoadModule: "dbe" > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so > > (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 > > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 > > (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER > > (II) LoadModule: "glx" > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so > > (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 > > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 > > (==) AIGLX disabled > > (II) Loading extension GLX > > (II) LoadModule: "dri" > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so > > (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 > > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 > > (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI > > (II) LoadModule: "dri2" > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so > > (II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.1.0 > > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 > > (II) Loading extension DRI2 > > (II) LoadModule: "radeon" > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so > > (II) Module radeon: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 6.14.3 > > Module class: X.Org Video Driver > > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 > > (II) LoadModule: "mouse" > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so > > (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.7.1 > > Module class: X.Org XInput Driver > > ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0 > > (II) LoadModule: "kbd" > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so > > (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.6.1 > > Module class: X.Org XInput Driver > > ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0 > > (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: > > ATI Radeon Mobility X600 (M24) 3150 (PCIE), ATI FireMV 2400 (PCI), > > ATI Radeon Mobility X300 (M24) 3152 (PCIE), > > ATI FireGL M24 GL 3154 (PCIE), ATI FireMV 2400 3155 (PCI), > > ATI Radeon X600 (RV380) 3E50 (PCIE), > > ATI FireGL V3200 (RV380) 3E54 (PCIE), ATI Radeon IGP320 (A3) 4136, > > ATI Radeon IGP330/340/350 (A4) 4137, ATI Radeon 9500 AD (AGP), > > ATI Radeon 9500 AE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600TX AF (AGP), > > ATI FireGL Z1 AG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800SE AH (AGP), > > ATI Radeon 9800 AI (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800 AJ (AGP), > > ATI FireGL X2 AK (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600 AP (AGP), > > ATI Radeon 9600SE AQ (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600XT AR (AGP), > > ATI Radeon 9600 AS (AGP), ATI FireGL T2 AT (AGP), ATI Radeon 9650, > > ATI FireGL RV360 AV (AGP), ATI Radeon 7000 IGP (A4+) 4237, > > ATI Radeon 8500 AIW BB (AGP), ATI Radeon IGP320M (U1) 4336, > > ATI Radeon IGP330M/340M/350M (U2) 4337, > > ATI Radeon Mobility 7000 IGP 4437, ATI Radeon 9000/PRO If (AGP/PCI), > > ATI Radeon 9000 Ig (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JH (AGP), > > ATI Radeon X800PRO (R420) JI (AGP), > > ATI Radeon X800SE (R420) JJ (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JK (AGP), > > ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JL (AGP), ATI FireGL X3 (R420) JM (AGP), > > ATI Radeon Mobility 9800 (M18) JN (AGP), > > ATI Radeon X800 SE (R420) (AGP), ATI Radeon X800XT (R420) JP (AGP), > > ATI Radeon X800 VE (R420) JT (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 (R480) (AGP), > > ATI Radeon X850 XT (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 SE (R480) (AGP), > > ATI Radeon X850 PRO (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 XT PE (R480) (AGP), > > ATI Radeon Mobility M7 LW (AGP), > > ATI Mobility FireGL 7800 M7 LX (AGP), > > ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LZ (AGP), > > ATI FireGL Mobility 9000 (M9) Ld (AGP), > > ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP), > > ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lg (AGP), ATI Radeon 9700 Pro ND (AGP), > > ATI Radeon 9700/9500Pro NE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600TX NF (AGP), > > ATI FireGL X1 NG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800PRO NH (AGP), > > ATI Radeon 9800 NI (AGP), ATI FireGL X2 NK (AGP), > > ATI Radeon 9800XT NJ (AGP), > > ATI Radeon Mobility 9600/9700 (M10/M11) NP (AGP), > > ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NQ (AGP), > > ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M11) NR (AGP), > > ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NS (AGP), > > ATI FireGL Mobility T2 (M10) NT (AGP), > > ATI FireGL Mobility T2e (M11) NV (AGP), ATI Radeon QD (AGP), > > ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP), > > ATI FireGL 8700/8800 QH (AGP), ATI Radeon 8500 QL (AGP), > > ATI Radeon 9100 QM (AGP), ATI Radeon 7500 QW (AGP/PCI), > > ATI Radeon 7500 QX (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon VE/7000 QY (AGP/PCI), > > ATI Radeon VE/7000 QZ (AGP/PCI), ATI ES1000 515E (PCI), > > ATI Radeon Mobility X300 (M22) 5460 (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon Mobility X600 SE (M24C) 5462 (PCIE), > > ATI FireGL M22 GL 5464 (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 (R423) UH (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon X800PRO (R423) UI (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon X800LE (R423) UJ (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon X800SE (R423) UK (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon X800 XTP (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 XL (R430) (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon X800 SE (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 (R430) (PCIE), > > ATI FireGL V7100 (R423) (PCIE), ATI FireGL V5100 (R423) UQ (PCIE), > > ATI FireGL unknown (R423) UR (PCIE), > > ATI FireGL unknown (R423) UT (PCIE), > > ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 (M26) (PCIE), > > ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 (M26) (PCIE), > > ATI Mobility Radeon X700 XL (M26) (PCIE), > > ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE), > > ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon X550XTX 5657 (PCIE), ATI Radeon 9100 IGP (A5) 5834, > > ATI Radeon Mobility 9100 IGP (U3) 5835, > > ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5954 (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE), ATI Radeon 9250 5960 (AGP), > > ATI Radeon 9200 5961 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9200 5962 (AGP), > > ATI Radeon 9200SE 5964 (AGP), ATI FireMV 2200 (PCI), > > ATI ES1000 5969 (PCI), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5974 (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5975 (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A41 (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A42 (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A61 (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A62 (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon X300 (RV370) 5B60 (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon X600 (RV370) 5B62 (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon X550 (RV370) 5B63 (PCIE), > > ATI FireGL V3100 (RV370) 5B64 (PCIE), > > ATI FireMV 2200 PCIE (RV370) 5B65 (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C61 (AGP), > > ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C63 (AGP), > > ATI Mobility Radeon X800 XT (M28) (PCIE), > > ATI Mobility FireGL V5100 (M28) (PCIE), > > ATI Mobility Radeon X800 (M28) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 5D4C (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon X850 XT PE (R480) (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon X850 SE (R480) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 PRO (R480) (PCIE), > > ATI unknown Radeon / FireGL (R480) 5D50 (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon X850 XT (R480) (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon X800XT (R423) 5D57 (PCIE), > > ATI FireGL V5000 (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 XT (RV410) (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon X700 PRO (RV410) (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon X700 SE (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 (RV410) (PCIE), > > ATI Radeon X700 SE (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X1800, > > ATI Mobility Radeon X1800 XT, ATI Mobility Radeon X1800, > > ATI Mobility FireGL V7200, ATI FireGL V7200, ATI FireGL V5300, > > ATI Mobility FireGL V7100, ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800, > > ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800, > > ATI FireGL V7300, ATI FireGL V7350, ATI Radeon X1600, ATI RV505, > > ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Radeon X1550, ATI M54-GL, > > ATI Mobility Radeon X1400, ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, > > ATI Radeon X1550 64-bit, ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, > > ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, > > ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1300, > > ATI RV505, ATI RV505, ATI FireGL V3300, ATI FireGL V3350, > > ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1550 64-bit, ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, > > ATI Radeon X1600, ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Mobility Radeon X1450, > > ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Mobility Radeon X2300, > > ATI Mobility Radeon X2300, ATI Mobility Radeon X1350, > > ATI Mobility Radeon X1350, ATI Mobility Radeon X1450, > > ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1550, ATI Mobility Radeon X1350, > > ATI FireMV 2250, ATI Radeon X1550 64-bit, ATI Radeon X1600, > > ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1600, ATI Radeon X1600, > > ATI Mobility FireGL V5200, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600, > > ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1600, > > ATI Radeon X1300 XT/X1600 Pro, ATI FireGL V3400, > > ATI Mobility FireGL V5250, ATI Mobility Radeon X1700, > > ATI Mobility Radeon X1700 XT, ATI FireGL V5200, > > ATI Mobility Radeon X1700, ATI Radeon X2300HD, > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2300, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2300, > > ATI Radeon X1950, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1950, > > ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, > > ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, > > ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, > > ATI AMD Stream Processor, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1950, > > ATI RV560, ATI RV560, ATI Mobility Radeon X1900, ATI RV560, > > ATI Radeon X1950 GT, ATI RV570, ATI RV570, ATI FireGL V7400, > > ATI RV560, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI RV560, > > ATI Radeon 9100 PRO IGP 7834, ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 IGP 7835, > > ATI Radeon X1200, ATI Radeon X1200, ATI Radeon X1200, > > ATI Radeon X1200, ATI Radeon X1200, ATI RS740, ATI RS740M, ATI RS740, > > ATI RS740M, ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, > > ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2900 Pro, ATI Radeon HD 2900 GT, > > ATI FireGL V8650, ATI FireGL V8600, ATI FireGL V7600, > > ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4870 x2, > > ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4850 x2, > > ATI FirePro V8750 (FireGL), ATI FirePro V7760 (FireGL), > > ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4850, ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4850 X2, > > ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI FirePro RV770, AMD FireStream 9270, > > AMD FireStream 9250, ATI FirePro V8700 (FireGL), > > ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4870, ATI Mobility RADEON M98, > > ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4870, ATI Radeon 4800 Series, > > ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI FirePro M7750, ATI M98, ATI M98, ATI M98, > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650, ATI Radeon RV730 (AGP), > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670, ATI FirePro M5750, > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670, ATI Radeon RV730 (AGP), > > ATI RV730XT [Radeon HD 4670], ATI RADEON E4600, > > ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series, ATI RV730 PRO [Radeon HD 4650], > > ATI FirePro V7750 (FireGL), ATI FirePro V5700 (FireGL), > > ATI FirePro V3750 (FireGL), ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4830, > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4850, ATI FirePro M7740, ATI RV740, > > ATI Radeon HD 4770, ATI Radeon HD 4700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4770, > > ATI FirePro M5750, ATI RV610, ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT, > > ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro, ATI Radeon HD 2400 PRO AGP, ATI FireGL V4000, > > ATI RV610, ATI Radeon HD 2350, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400 XT, > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400, ATI RADEON E2400, ATI RV610, > > ATI FireMV 2260, ATI RV670, ATI Radeon HD3870, > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850, ATI Radeon HD3850, > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850 X2, ATI RV670, > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2, > > ATI Radeon HD3870 X2, ATI FireGL V7700, ATI Radeon HD3850, > > ATI Radeon HD3690, AMD Firestream 9170, ATI Radeon HD 4550, > > ATI Radeon RV710, ATI Radeon RV710, ATI Radeon RV710, > > ATI Radeon HD 4350, ATI Mobility Radeon 4300 Series, > > ATI Mobility Radeon 4500 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon 4500 Series, > > ATI FirePro RG220, ATI Mobility Radeon 4330, ATI RV630, > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT, > > ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT AGP, ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro AGP, > > ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro, ATI Gemini RV630, > > ATI Gemini Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT, ATI FireGL V5600, > > ATI FireGL V3600, ATI Radeon HD 2600 LE, > > ATI Mobility FireGL Graphics Processor, ATI Radeon HD 3470, > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3430, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series, > > ATI Radeon HD 3450, ATI Radeon HD 3450, ATI Radeon HD 3430, > > ATI Radeon HD 3450, ATI FirePro V3700, ATI FireMV 2450, > > ATI FireMV 2260, ATI FireMV 2260, ATI Radeon HD 3600 Series, > > ATI Radeon HD 3650 AGP, ATI Radeon HD 3600 PRO, > > ATI Radeon HD 3600 XT, ATI Radeon HD 3600 PRO, > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3670, > > ATI Mobility FireGL V5700, ATI Mobility FireGL V5725, > > ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics, ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics, > > ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics, ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics, > > ATI Radeon HD 3300 Graphics, ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics, > > ATI Radeon 3000 Graphics, SUMO, SUMO, SUMO2, SUMO2, SUMO2, SUMO2, > > SUMO, SUMO, SUMO, SUMO, SUMO, ATI Radeon HD 4200, ATI Radeon 4100, > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200, ATI Mobility Radeon 4100, > > ATI Radeon HD 4290, ATI Radeon HD 4250, AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics, > > AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics, AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics, > > AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics, AMD Radeon HD 6300 Series Graphics, > > AMD Radeon HD 6200 Series Graphics, CYPRESS, > > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, > > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, > > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, AMD Firestream 9370, > > AMD Firestream 9350, ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, > > ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, > > ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series, > > ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series, > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series, > > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, > > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, > > ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 6700 Series, > > ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 6700 Series, > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5570, > > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, > > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, ATI Radeon HD 5670, > > ATI Radeon HD 5570, ATI Radeon HD 5500 Series, REDWOOD, > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon Graphics, > > ATI Mobility Radeon Graphics, CEDAR, > > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, > > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, ATI FirePro 2270, CEDAR, > > ATI Radeon HD 5450, CEDAR, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, > > CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series, > > AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, > > AMD Radeon HD 6900M Series, Mobility Radeon HD 6000 Series, BARTS, > > BARTS, Mobility Radeon HD 6000 Series, > > Mobility Radeon HD 6000 Series, BARTS, BARTS, BARTS, BARTS, > > AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series, AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series, > > AMD Radeon HD 6700 Series, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, > > TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, CAICOS, > > CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, > > CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS > > (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01@00:05:0 > > (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support > > (II) RADEON(0): TOTO SAYS 00000000d0200000 > > (II) RADEON(0): MMIO registers at 0x00000000d0200000: size 64KB > > (II) RADEON(0): PCI bus 1 card 5 func 0 > > (==) RADEON(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 > > (II) RADEON(0): Pixel depth = 24 bits stored in 4 bytes (32 bpp pixmaps) > > (==) RADEON(0): Default visual is TrueColor > > (**) RADEON(0): Option "BusType" "PCIE" > > (**) RADEON(0): Option "RenderAccel" "on" > > (**) RADEON(0): Option "AccelMethod" "xaa" > > (**) RADEON(0): Option "DRI" "on" > > (**) RADEON(0): Option "Int10" "on" > > (**) RADEON(0): Option "DynamicPM" "on" > > (II) Loading sub module "vgahw" > > (II) LoadModule: "vgahw" > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libvgahw.so > > (II) Module vgahw: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 0.1.0 > > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 > > (II) RADEON(0): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp->IOBase is 0x03d0, hwp->PIOOffset is 0x0000 > > (==) RADEON(0): RGB weight 888 > > (II) RADEON(0): Using 8 bits per RGB (8 bit DAC) > > (--) RADEON(0): Chipset: "ATI Radeon X1200" (ChipID = 0x791f) > > (--) RADEON(0): Linear framebuffer at 0x00000000c0000000 > > (II) RADEON(0): PCI card detected > > (**) RADEON(0): Forced into PCI mode > > (II) Loading sub module "int10" > > (II) LoadModule: "int10" > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libint10.so > > (II) Module int10: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 > > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 > > (II) RADEON(0): initializing int10 > > (**) RADEON(0): Option "int10" "on" > > (==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x20000) was already clear > > (==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xc0000,0x40000) was already clear > > (II) RADEON(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 > > (==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear > > (II) RADEON(0): ATOM BIOS detected > > (II) RADEON(0): ATOM BIOS Rom: > > SubsystemVendorID: 0x1002 SubsystemID: 0x791f > > IOBaseAddress: 0x4000 > > Filename: br23883.bin > > BIOS Bootup Message: > > ATI Radeon Xpress ?1250? for HP_TT > > > > (II) RADEON(0): Framebuffer space used by Firmware (kb): 20 > > (II) RADEON(0): Start of VRAM area used by Firmware: 0x7ffb000 > > (II) RADEON(0): AtomBIOS requests 20kB of VRAM scratch space > > (II) RADEON(0): AtomBIOS VRAM scratch base: 0x7ffb000 > > (II) RADEON(0): Cannot get VRAM scratch space. Allocating in main memory instead > > (II) RADEON(0): Default Engine Clock: 400000 > > (II) RADEON(0): Default Memory Clock: 200000 > > (II) RADEON(0): Maximum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Output: 1200000 > > (II) RADEON(0): Minimum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Output: 0 > > (II) RADEON(0): Maximum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Input: 13500 > > (II) RADEON(0): Minimum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Input: 1000 > > (II) RADEON(0): Maximum Pixel Clock: 400000 > > (II) RADEON(0): Reference Clock: 14320 > > drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 > > drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) > > drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:01:05.0 > > drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 > > drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) > > drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 10 > > drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:01:05.0 > > (II) RADEON(0): [dri] Found DRI library version 1.3.0 and kernel module version 1.31.0 > > (==) RADEON(0): Page Flipping disabled on r5xx and newer chips. > > > > (II) RADEON(0): Will try to use DMA for Xv image transfers > > (II) RADEON(0): Generation 2 PCI interface, using max accessible memory > > (II) RADEON(0): Detected total video RAM=131072K, accessible=131072K (PCI BAR=131072K) > > (--) RADEON(0): Mapped VideoRAM: 131072 kByte (128 bit DDR SDRAM) > > (II) RADEON(0): Color tiling enabled by default > > (II) Loading sub module "ddc" > > (II) LoadModule: "ddc" > > (II) Module "ddc" already built-in > > (II) Loading sub module "i2c" > > (II) LoadModule: "i2c" > > (II) Module "i2c" already built-in > > (II) RADEON(0): PLL parameters: rf=1432 rd=12 min=80000 max=120000; xclk=40000 > > (WW) RADEON(0): LVDS Info: > > XRes: 1280, YRes: 800, DotClock: 71000 > > HBlank: 160, HOverPlus: 48, HSyncWidth: 32 > > VBlank: 23, VOverPlus: 3, VSyncWidth: 6 > > (II) RADEON(0): Skipping TV-Out > > (II) RADEON(0): Skipping Component Video > > (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 using monitor section Monitor0 > > (II) RADEON(0): I2C bus "VGA-0" initialized. > > (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS has no monitor section > > (II) RADEON(0): I2C bus "LVDS" initialized. > > (II) RADEON(0): Port0: > > XRANDR name: VGA-0 > > Connector: VGA > > CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1 > > DDC reg: 0x7e50 > > (II) RADEON(0): Port1: > > XRANDR name: LVDS > > Connector: LVDS > > LCD1: INTERNAL_LVTM1 > > DDC reg: 0x7e40 > > (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "VGA-0:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. > > Dac detection success > > (II) RADEON(0): Output: VGA-0, Detected Monitor Type: 0 > > finished output detect: 0 > > (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "LVDS:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. > > (II) RADEON(0): Output: LVDS, Detected Monitor Type: 2 > > (II) RADEON(0): EDID data from the display on output: LVDS ---------------------- > > (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer: LPL Model: d600 Serial#: 0 > > (II) RADEON(0): Year: 2006 Week: 0 > > (II) RADEON(0): EDID Version: 1.3 > > (II) RADEON(0): Digital Display Input > > (II) RADEON(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 33 vert.: 21 > > (II) RADEON(0): Gamma: 2.20 > > (II) RADEON(0): No DPMS capabilities specified > > (II) RADEON(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4 > > (II) RADEON(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode > > (II) RADEON(0): redX: 0.600 redY: 0.351 greenX: 0.324 greenY: 0.554 > > (II) RADEON(0): blueX: 0.153 blueY: 0.145 whiteX: 0.312 whiteY: 0.328 > > (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 > > (II) RADEON(0): Supported detailed timing: > > (II) RADEON(0): clock: 71.0 MHz Image Size: 331 x 207 mm > > (II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1280 h_sync: 1328 h_sync_end 1360 h_blank_end 1440 h_border: 0 > > (II) RADEON(0): v_active: 800 v_sync: 803 v_sync_end 809 v_blanking: 823 v_border: 0 > > (II) RADEON(0): LGPhilipsLCD > > (II) RADEON(0): LP154WX4-TLA1 > > (II) RADEON(0): EDID (in hex): > > (II) RADEON(0): 00ffffffffffff00320c00d600000000 > > (II) RADEON(0): 00100103802115780ab3409959538d27 > > (II) RADEON(0): 25505400000001010101010101010101 > > (II) RADEON(0): 010101010101bc1b00a0502017303020 > > (II) RADEON(0): 36004bcf100000190000000000000000 > > (II) RADEON(0): 00000000000000000000000000fe004c > > (II) RADEON(0): 475068696c6970734c43440a000000fe > > (II) RADEON(0): 004c503135345758342d544c4131004d > > finished output detect: 1 > > finished all detect > > Dac detection success > > (II) RADEON(0): Output: VGA-0, Detected Monitor Type: 0 > > (II) RADEON(0): Output: LVDS, Detected Monitor Type: 2 > > (II) RADEON(0): EDID data from the display on output: LVDS ---------------------- > > (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer: LPL Model: d600 Serial#: 0 > > (II) RADEON(0): Year: 2006 Week: 0 > > (II) RADEON(0): EDID Version: 1.3 > > (II) RADEON(0): Digital Display Input > > (II) RADEON(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 33 vert.: 21 > > (II) RADEON(0): Gamma: 2.20 > > (II) RADEON(0): No DPMS capabilities specified > > (II) RADEON(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4 > > (II) RADEON(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode > > (II) RADEON(0): redX: 0.600 redY: 0.351 greenX: 0.324 greenY: 0.554 > > (II) RADEON(0): blueX: 0.153 blueY: 0.145 whiteX: 0.312 whiteY: 0.328 > > (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 > > (II) RADEON(0): Supported detailed timing: > > (II) RADEON(0): clock: 71.0 MHz Image Size: 331 x 207 mm > > (II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1280 h_sync: 1328 h_sync_end 1360 h_blank_end 1440 h_border: 0 > > (II) RADEON(0): v_active: 800 v_sync: 803 v_sync_end 809 v_blanking: 823 v_border: 0 > > (II) RADEON(0): LGPhilipsLCD > > (II) RADEON(0): LP154WX4-TLA1 > > (II) RADEON(0): EDID (in hex): > > (II) RADEON(0): 00ffffffffffff00320c00d600000000 > > (II) RADEON(0): 00100103802115780ab3409959538d27 > > (II) RADEON(0): 25505400000001010101010101010101 > > (II) RADEON(0): 010101010101bc1b00a0502017303020 > > (II) RADEON(0): 36004bcf100000190000000000000000 > > (II) RADEON(0): 00000000000000000000000000fe004c > > (II) RADEON(0): 475068696c6970734c43440a000000fe > > (II) RADEON(0): 004c503135345758342d544c4131004d > > (II) RADEON(0): EDID vendor "LPL", prod id 54784 > > (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 disconnected > > (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS connected > > (II) RADEON(0): Using exact sizes for initial modes > > (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS using initial mode 1280x800 > > (II) RADEON(0): Using default gamma of (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) unless otherwise stated. > > (==) RADEON(0): DPI set to (96, 96) > > (II) Loading sub module "fb" > > (II) LoadModule: "fb" > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so > > (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 > > ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 > > (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" > > (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" > > (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in > > (**) RADEON(0): Using XAA acceleration architecture > > (II) Loading sub module "xaa" > > (II) LoadModule: "xaa" > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libxaa.so > > (II) Module xaa: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.2.1 > > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 > > (==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear > > (!!) RADEON(0): MergedFB support has been removed and replaced with xrandr 1.2 support > > (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp > > (II) RADEON(0): RADEONScreenInit c0000000 0 0 > > (==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear > > Output LCD1 disable success > > Blank CRTC 0 success > > Disable CRTC 0 success > > Blank CRTC 1 success > > Disable CRTC 1 success > > (II) RADEON(0): Dynamic Power Management Enabled > > (==) RADEON(0): Using 24 bit depth buffer > > (II) RADEON(0): RADEONInitMemoryMap() : > > (II) RADEON(0): mem_size : 0x08000000 > > (II) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0xbfffb800 > > (II) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0x003f0000 > > (II) RADEON(0): Depth moves disabled by default > > (II) RADEON(0): Using 32 MB GART aperture > > (II) RADEON(0): Using 1 MB for the ring buffer > > (II) RADEON(0): Using 2 MB for vertex/indirect buffers > > (II) RADEON(0): Using 29 MB for GART textures > > (II) RADEON(0): Memory manager initialized to (0,0) (1280,8191) > > (II) RADEON(0): Reserved area from (0,1280) to (1280,1282) > > (II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1280 x 6909 > > (II) RADEON(0): Will use front buffer at offset 0x0 > > (II) RADEON(0): Will use back buffer at offset 0x1978000 > > (II) RADEON(0): Will use depth buffer at offset 0x1fb8000 > > (II) RADEON(0): Will use 92160 kb for textures at offset 0x25f8000 > > drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 > > drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) > > drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 > > drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) > > drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:01:05.0 > > drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 > > drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) > > drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 10 > > drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:01:05.0 > > (II) [drm] DRM interface version 1.2 > > (II) [drm] DRM open master succeeded. > > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Using the DRM lock SAREA also for drawables. > > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0x40000000000 > > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel > > (II) RADEON(0): X context handle = 0x1 > > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] 32768 kB allocated with handle 0xcff65000 > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] ring handle = 0x00000000 > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring mapped at 0x804c1f000 > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring contents 0x00000000 > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] ring read ptr handle = 0x00000000 > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring read ptr mapped at 0x80090e000 > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring read ptr contents 0x00000000 > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] vertex/indirect buffers handle = 0x00000000 > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Vertex/indirect buffers mapped at 0x80ce00000 > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Vertex/indirect buffers contents 0x00000000 > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] GART texture map handle = 0x00000000 > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] GART Texture map mapped at 0x80d094000 > > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] register handle = 0x00000000 > > (II) RADEON(0): [dri] Visual configs initialized > > (II) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMemMapRegisters() : > > (II) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0xbfffb800 0xbfffb800 > > (II) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0x003f0000 > > (==) RADEON(0): Backing store disabled > > (II) RADEON(0): [DRI] installation complete > > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Added 32 65536 byte vertex/indirect buffers > > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Mapped 32 vertex/indirect buffers > > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] dma control initialized, using IRQ 256 > > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Initialized kernel GART heap manager, 29884416 > > (WW) RADEON(0): DRI init changed memory map, adjusting ... > > (WW) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION was: 0xbfffb800 is: 0xbfffb800 > > (WW) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION was: 0x003f0000 is: 0xc1ffc000 > > (II) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMemMapRegisters() : > > (II) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0xbfffb800 0xbfffb800 > > (II) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0xc1ffc000 > > (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering enabled > > (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration disabled > > (II) RADEON(0): num quad-pipes is 1 > > (II) RADEON(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) > > Screen to screen bit blits > > Solid filled rectangles > > 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles > > Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion > > Solid Lines > > Scanline Image Writes > > Setting up tile and stipple cache: > > 32 128x128 slots > > 32 256x256 slots > > 16 512x512 slots > > (II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled > > (==) RADEON(0): DPMS enabled > > (==) RADEON(0): Silken mouse enabled > > (II) RADEON(0): Will use 32 kb for hardware cursor 0 at offset 0x00643000 > > (II) RADEON(0): Will use 32 kb for hardware cursor 1 at offset 0x00648000 > > (II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1280 x 6901 > > (II) RADEON(0): Set up textured video > > (II) RADEON(0): [XvMC] Associated with Radeon Textured Video. > > (II) RADEON(0): [XvMC] Extension initialized. > > Output CRT1 disable success > > Output LCD1 disable success > > Blank CRTC 0 success > > Disable CRTC 0 success > > Blank CRTC 1 success > > Disable CRTC 1 success > > > > > > I tried running Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new > > > > I get black screen, from which I can't recover. > > CTRL+ALT+F<...> does nothing, > > CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE does nothing. > > > > And I can't kill Xorg: > > > > # ps ax |grep Xorg > > 1056 0 RE+ 5:54.16 Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new -retro > > 1112 1 RL+ 0:00.02 grep Xorg > > # kill -9 1056 > > # ps ax |grep Xorg > > 1056 0 RE+ 6:01.24 Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new -retro > > 1114 1 S+ 0:00.02 grep Xorg > > # > > > > The only way I can recover is reboot. > > > > Please advise. > > > > > > > > -- > > Anton Shterenlikht > > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > > Mech Eng Dept > > Bristol University > > University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK > > Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 > > Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 08:22:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51191065673 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:22:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C5C8FC17 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-177.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.177]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2633F3D04F; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:22:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q5C8M0fn003341; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:22:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:22:00 +0200 From: Polytropon To: i pwn Message-Id: <20120612102200.f5d0b981.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <7F5F7609-DB36-4E37-9196-92B797732C1D@gmail.com> References: <4C067C55-8320-4D12-A312-F8E2CC699B01@gmail.com> <4FD6A057.2070101@gmail.com> <20120612054431.b630e37a.freebsd@edvax.de> <7F5F7609-DB36-4E37-9196-92B797732C1D@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: text format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:22:02 -0000 On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:06:07 +0100, i pwn wrote: > on groff i've used this cmd to format the text > groff -Tascii < normal.txt | sed 's/^/ /'$1 > formatted.txt > on nroff what would be the cmd? Depending on your input data, I'd say the same command: groff -Tascii < normal.txt > formatted.txt. But you need to test this yourself with your input text format. See "man nroff" for details. For using roff macros, "man 7 mdoc" has a nice summary. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 08:25:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECEC106564A for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:25:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C108FC08 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:25:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SeMPk-0003Xv-Mo; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:25:26 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SeMPj-0004CS-J3; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:25:24 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5C8P6gC025963; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:25:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q5C8OvjA025946; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:24:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:24:57 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Subhro Sankha Kar , Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120612082456.GA25893@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Subhro Sankha Kar , Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120611113135.GA99238@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20120612081306.GA25637@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120612081306.GA25637@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: Re: can't kill -9 Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:25:33 -0000 On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 09:13:06AM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:07:06AM +0530, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote: > > Hello > > > > What happens if you run without a xorg.conf? Xorg has become pretty good at guessing correct settings these days. > > > > No change. > I removed /etc/X11/xorg.conf completely. Anyway, I can understand my X setup is fucked, no problem. What worries me more is the the fact that a process ignores kill -9. Doesn't it indicate a problem with the OS? I think potentially this is a security vulnerability. > > # X > > X.Org X Server 1.7.7 > Release Date: 2010-05-04 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64 > Current Operating System: FreeBSD mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r236740M: Sat Jun 9 22:35:49 BST 2012 root@mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUZI amd64 > Build Date: 11 June 2012 12:11:20PM > > Current version of pixman: 0.24.2 > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org > to make sure that you have the latest version. > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Jun 12 09:10:17 2012 > (==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines) > (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0) > (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0) > XRANDR name: VGA-0 > Connector: VGA > CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1 > DDC reg: 0x7e50 > XRANDR name: LVDS > Connector: LVDS > LCD1: INTERNAL_LVTM1 > DDC reg: 0x7e40 > Dac detection success > finished output detect: 0 > finished output detect: 1 > finished all detect > Dac detection success > Output LCD1 disable success > Blank CRTC 0 success > Disable CRTC 0 success > Blank CRTC 1 success > Disable CRTC 1 success > Output CRT1 disable success > Output LCD1 disable success > Blank CRTC 0 success > Disable CRTC 0 success > Blank CRTC 1 success > Disable CRTC 1 success > ^C^C^C > > Can kill it with neither CTRL/C > nor kill -9: > > # ps ax|grep X > 1060 0 R+ 0:38.95 X (Xorg) > 1073 1 R+ 0:00.01 grep X > # kill -9 1060 > # ps ax|grep X > 1060 0 RE+ 0:45.71 X (Xorg) > 1089 1 R+ 0:00.00 grep X > # > > > Anton > > > > Thanks > > -- > > Subhro Sankha Kar > > System Administrator > > Working and Playing with FreeBSD since 2002 > > > > On 11-Jun-2012, at 5:01 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > > My X is unusable since the recent png update. > > > > > > This is r236740M on HP Compaq 6715s amd64 laptop. > > > > > > I've no hal installed (if this matters). > > > > > > # pkg info -x xorg > > > linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 10) > > > xorg-cf-files-1.0.4 X.org cf files for use with imake builds > > > xorg-fonts-7.5.1 X.org fonts meta-port > > > xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.5.1 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts > > > xorg-fonts-75dpi-7.5.1 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts > > > xorg-fonts-cyrillic-7.5.1 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts > > > xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-7.5.1 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts > > > xorg-fonts-truetype-7.5.1 X.Org TrueType fonts > > > xorg-fonts-type1-7.5.1 X.Org Type1 fonts > > > xorg-libraries-7.5.1 X.org libraries meta-port > > > xorg-macros-1.16.1 X.Org development aclocal macros > > > xorg-server-1.7.7_5,1 X.Org X server and related programs > > > # > > > > > > # pkg info -x xf86 > > > libXxf86dga-1.1.2 X DGA Extension > > > libXxf86misc-1.0.3 X XF86-Misc Extension > > > libXxf86vm-1.1.1 X Vidmode Extension > > > xf86-input-keyboard-1.6.1 X.Org keyboard input driver > > > xf86-input-mouse-1.7.1 X.Org mouse input driver > > > xf86-video-ati-6.14.3_1 X.Org ati display driver > > > xf86bigfontproto-1.2.0 XFree86-Bigfont extension headers > > > xf86dgaproto-2.1 XFree86-DGA extension headers > > > xf86driproto-2.1.1 XFree86-DRI extension headers > > > xf86miscproto-0.9.3 XFree86-Misc extension headers > > > xf86vidmodeproto-2.3.1 XFree86-VidModeExtension extension headers > > > # > > > > > > My xorg.conf.new: > > > > > > > > > Section "ServerLayout" > > > Identifier "X.org Configured" > > > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > > > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > > > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > > > Option "AllowEmptyInput" "Off" > > > EndSection > > > > > > Section "Files" > > > ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" > > > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" > > > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" > > > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" > > > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" > > > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > > > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" > > > EndSection > > > > > > Section "Module" > > > Load "extmod" > > > Load "record" > > > Load "dbe" > > > Load "glx" > > > Load "dri" > > > Load "dri2" > > > EndSection > > > > > > Section "InputDevice" > > > Identifier "Keyboard0" > > > Driver "kbd" > > > EndSection > > > > > > Section "InputDevice" > > > Identifier "Mouse0" > > > Driver "mouse" > > > Option "Protocol" "auto" > > > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > > > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" > > > EndSection > > > > > > Section "Monitor" > > > #DisplaySize 330 210 # mm > > > Identifier "Monitor0" > > > VendorName "LPL" > > > ModelName "d600" > > > EndSection > > > > > > Section "Device" > > > Identifier "Card0" > > > Driver "radeon" > > > VendorName "Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI" > > > BoardName "RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]" > > > BusID "PCI:1:5:0" > > > Option "int10" "on" > > > Option "BusType" "PCIE" > > > Option "RenderAccel" "on" > > > Option "AccelMethod" "xaa" > > > Option "DynamicPM" "on" > > > Option "DRI" "on" > > > EndSection > > > > > > Section "Screen" > > > Identifier "Screen0" > > > Device "Card0" > > > Monitor "Monitor0" > > > SubSection "Display" > > > Viewport 0 0 > > > Depth 1 > > > EndSubSection > > > SubSection "Display" > > > Viewport 0 0 > > > Depth 4 > > > EndSubSection > > > SubSection "Display" > > > Viewport 0 0 > > > Depth 8 > > > EndSubSection > > > SubSection "Display" > > > Viewport 0 0 > > > Depth 15 > > > EndSubSection > > > SubSection "Display" > > > Viewport 0 0 > > > Depth 16 > > > EndSubSection > > > SubSection "Display" > > > Viewport 0 0 > > > Depth 24 > > > EndSubSection > > > EndSection > > > > > > > > > The Xorg.0.log: > > > > > > > > > > > > X.Org X Server 1.7.7 > > > Release Date: 2010-05-04 > > > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 > > > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64 > > > Current Operating System: FreeBSD mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r236740M: Sat Jun 9 22:35:49 BST 2012 root@mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUZI amd64 > > > Build Date: 11 June 2012 12:11:20PM > > > > > > Current version of pixman: 0.24.2 > > > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org > > > to make sure that you have the latest version. > > > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > > > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > > > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > > > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Jun 11 12:24:08 2012 > > > (++) Using config file: "/root/xorg.conf.new" > > > (==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured" > > > (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) > > > (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" > > > (**) | |-->Device "Card0" > > > (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" > > > (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" > > > (**) Option "AllowEmptyInput" "Off" > > > (==) Not automatically adding devices > > > (==) Not automatically enabling devices > > > (**) FontPath set to: > > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, > > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, > > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, > > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, > > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, > > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, > > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, > > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, > > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, > > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, > > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, > > > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ > > > (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" > > > (II) Loader magic: 0x7bd3c0 > > > (II) Module ABI versions: > > > X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 > > > X.Org Video Driver: 6.0 > > > X.Org XInput driver : 7.0 > > > X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 > > > (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) > > > (--) using VT number 9 > > > > > > (--) PCI:*(0:1:5:0) 1002:791f:103c:30c2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series] rev 0, Mem @ 0xc0000000/134217728, 0xd0200000/65536, 0xd0300000/1048576, I/O @ 0x00004000/256, BIOS @ 0x????????/65536 > > > (II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. > > > (II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. > > > (II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. > > > (II) "record" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. > > > (II) "dri" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. > > > (II) "dri2" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. > > > (II) LoadModule: "extmod" > > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so > > > (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 > > > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > > > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 > > > (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER > > > (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension > > > (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA > > > (II) Loading extension DPMS > > > (II) Loading extension XVideo > > > (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation > > > (II) Loading extension X-Resource > > > (II) LoadModule: "record" > > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so > > > (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.13.0 > > > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > > > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 > > > (II) Loading extension RECORD > > > (II) LoadModule: "dbe" > > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so > > > (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 > > > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > > > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 > > > (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER > > > (II) LoadModule: "glx" > > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so > > > (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 > > > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 > > > (==) AIGLX disabled > > > (II) Loading extension GLX > > > (II) LoadModule: "dri" > > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so > > > (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 > > > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 > > > (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI > > > (II) LoadModule: "dri2" > > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so > > > (II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.1.0 > > > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 > > > (II) Loading extension DRI2 > > > (II) LoadModule: "radeon" > > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so > > > (II) Module radeon: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 6.14.3 > > > Module class: X.Org Video Driver > > > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 > > > (II) LoadModule: "mouse" > > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so > > > (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.7.1 > > > Module class: X.Org XInput Driver > > > ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0 > > > (II) LoadModule: "kbd" > > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so > > > (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.6.1 > > > Module class: X.Org XInput Driver > > > ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0 > > > (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: > > > ATI Radeon Mobility X600 (M24) 3150 (PCIE), ATI FireMV 2400 (PCI), > > > ATI Radeon Mobility X300 (M24) 3152 (PCIE), > > > ATI FireGL M24 GL 3154 (PCIE), ATI FireMV 2400 3155 (PCI), > > > ATI Radeon X600 (RV380) 3E50 (PCIE), > > > ATI FireGL V3200 (RV380) 3E54 (PCIE), ATI Radeon IGP320 (A3) 4136, > > > ATI Radeon IGP330/340/350 (A4) 4137, ATI Radeon 9500 AD (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon 9500 AE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600TX AF (AGP), > > > ATI FireGL Z1 AG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800SE AH (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon 9800 AI (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800 AJ (AGP), > > > ATI FireGL X2 AK (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600 AP (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon 9600SE AQ (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600XT AR (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon 9600 AS (AGP), ATI FireGL T2 AT (AGP), ATI Radeon 9650, > > > ATI FireGL RV360 AV (AGP), ATI Radeon 7000 IGP (A4+) 4237, > > > ATI Radeon 8500 AIW BB (AGP), ATI Radeon IGP320M (U1) 4336, > > > ATI Radeon IGP330M/340M/350M (U2) 4337, > > > ATI Radeon Mobility 7000 IGP 4437, ATI Radeon 9000/PRO If (AGP/PCI), > > > ATI Radeon 9000 Ig (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JH (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon X800PRO (R420) JI (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon X800SE (R420) JJ (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JK (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JL (AGP), ATI FireGL X3 (R420) JM (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon Mobility 9800 (M18) JN (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon X800 SE (R420) (AGP), ATI Radeon X800XT (R420) JP (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon X800 VE (R420) JT (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 (R480) (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon X850 XT (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 SE (R480) (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon X850 PRO (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 XT PE (R480) (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon Mobility M7 LW (AGP), > > > ATI Mobility FireGL 7800 M7 LX (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LZ (AGP), > > > ATI FireGL Mobility 9000 (M9) Ld (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lg (AGP), ATI Radeon 9700 Pro ND (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon 9700/9500Pro NE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600TX NF (AGP), > > > ATI FireGL X1 NG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800PRO NH (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon 9800 NI (AGP), ATI FireGL X2 NK (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon 9800XT NJ (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon Mobility 9600/9700 (M10/M11) NP (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NQ (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M11) NR (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NS (AGP), > > > ATI FireGL Mobility T2 (M10) NT (AGP), > > > ATI FireGL Mobility T2e (M11) NV (AGP), ATI Radeon QD (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP), > > > ATI FireGL 8700/8800 QH (AGP), ATI Radeon 8500 QL (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon 9100 QM (AGP), ATI Radeon 7500 QW (AGP/PCI), > > > ATI Radeon 7500 QX (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon VE/7000 QY (AGP/PCI), > > > ATI Radeon VE/7000 QZ (AGP/PCI), ATI ES1000 515E (PCI), > > > ATI Radeon Mobility X300 (M22) 5460 (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon Mobility X600 SE (M24C) 5462 (PCIE), > > > ATI FireGL M22 GL 5464 (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 (R423) UH (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon X800PRO (R423) UI (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon X800LE (R423) UJ (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon X800SE (R423) UK (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon X800 XTP (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 XL (R430) (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon X800 SE (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 (R430) (PCIE), > > > ATI FireGL V7100 (R423) (PCIE), ATI FireGL V5100 (R423) UQ (PCIE), > > > ATI FireGL unknown (R423) UR (PCIE), > > > ATI FireGL unknown (R423) UT (PCIE), > > > ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 (M26) (PCIE), > > > ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 (M26) (PCIE), > > > ATI Mobility Radeon X700 XL (M26) (PCIE), > > > ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE), > > > ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon X550XTX 5657 (PCIE), ATI Radeon 9100 IGP (A5) 5834, > > > ATI Radeon Mobility 9100 IGP (U3) 5835, > > > ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5954 (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE), ATI Radeon 9250 5960 (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon 9200 5961 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9200 5962 (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon 9200SE 5964 (AGP), ATI FireMV 2200 (PCI), > > > ATI ES1000 5969 (PCI), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5974 (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5975 (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A41 (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A42 (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A61 (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A62 (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon X300 (RV370) 5B60 (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon X600 (RV370) 5B62 (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon X550 (RV370) 5B63 (PCIE), > > > ATI FireGL V3100 (RV370) 5B64 (PCIE), > > > ATI FireMV 2200 PCIE (RV370) 5B65 (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C61 (AGP), > > > ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C63 (AGP), > > > ATI Mobility Radeon X800 XT (M28) (PCIE), > > > ATI Mobility FireGL V5100 (M28) (PCIE), > > > ATI Mobility Radeon X800 (M28) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 5D4C (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon X850 XT PE (R480) (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon X850 SE (R480) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 PRO (R480) (PCIE), > > > ATI unknown Radeon / FireGL (R480) 5D50 (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon X850 XT (R480) (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon X800XT (R423) 5D57 (PCIE), > > > ATI FireGL V5000 (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 XT (RV410) (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon X700 PRO (RV410) (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon X700 SE (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 (RV410) (PCIE), > > > ATI Radeon X700 SE (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X1800, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon X1800 XT, ATI Mobility Radeon X1800, > > > ATI Mobility FireGL V7200, ATI FireGL V7200, ATI FireGL V5300, > > > ATI Mobility FireGL V7100, ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800, > > > ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800, > > > ATI FireGL V7300, ATI FireGL V7350, ATI Radeon X1600, ATI RV505, > > > ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Radeon X1550, ATI M54-GL, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon X1400, ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, > > > ATI Radeon X1550 64-bit, ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1300, > > > ATI RV505, ATI RV505, ATI FireGL V3300, ATI FireGL V3350, > > > ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1550 64-bit, ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, > > > ATI Radeon X1600, ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Mobility Radeon X1450, > > > ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Mobility Radeon X2300, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon X2300, ATI Mobility Radeon X1350, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon X1350, ATI Mobility Radeon X1450, > > > ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1550, ATI Mobility Radeon X1350, > > > ATI FireMV 2250, ATI Radeon X1550 64-bit, ATI Radeon X1600, > > > ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1600, ATI Radeon X1600, > > > ATI Mobility FireGL V5200, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600, > > > ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1600, > > > ATI Radeon X1300 XT/X1600 Pro, ATI FireGL V3400, > > > ATI Mobility FireGL V5250, ATI Mobility Radeon X1700, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon X1700 XT, ATI FireGL V5200, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon X1700, ATI Radeon X2300HD, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2300, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2300, > > > ATI Radeon X1950, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1950, > > > ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, > > > ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, > > > ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, > > > ATI AMD Stream Processor, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1950, > > > ATI RV560, ATI RV560, ATI Mobility Radeon X1900, ATI RV560, > > > ATI Radeon X1950 GT, ATI RV570, ATI RV570, ATI FireGL V7400, > > > ATI RV560, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI RV560, > > > ATI Radeon 9100 PRO IGP 7834, ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 IGP 7835, > > > ATI Radeon X1200, ATI Radeon X1200, ATI Radeon X1200, > > > ATI Radeon X1200, ATI Radeon X1200, ATI RS740, ATI RS740M, ATI RS740, > > > ATI RS740M, ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, > > > ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2900 Pro, ATI Radeon HD 2900 GT, > > > ATI FireGL V8650, ATI FireGL V8600, ATI FireGL V7600, > > > ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4870 x2, > > > ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4850 x2, > > > ATI FirePro V8750 (FireGL), ATI FirePro V7760 (FireGL), > > > ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4850, ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4850 X2, > > > ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI FirePro RV770, AMD FireStream 9270, > > > AMD FireStream 9250, ATI FirePro V8700 (FireGL), > > > ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4870, ATI Mobility RADEON M98, > > > ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4870, ATI Radeon 4800 Series, > > > ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI FirePro M7750, ATI M98, ATI M98, ATI M98, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650, ATI Radeon RV730 (AGP), > > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670, ATI FirePro M5750, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670, ATI Radeon RV730 (AGP), > > > ATI RV730XT [Radeon HD 4670], ATI RADEON E4600, > > > ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series, ATI RV730 PRO [Radeon HD 4650], > > > ATI FirePro V7750 (FireGL), ATI FirePro V5700 (FireGL), > > > ATI FirePro V3750 (FireGL), ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4830, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4850, ATI FirePro M7740, ATI RV740, > > > ATI Radeon HD 4770, ATI Radeon HD 4700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4770, > > > ATI FirePro M5750, ATI RV610, ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT, > > > ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro, ATI Radeon HD 2400 PRO AGP, ATI FireGL V4000, > > > ATI RV610, ATI Radeon HD 2350, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400 XT, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400, ATI RADEON E2400, ATI RV610, > > > ATI FireMV 2260, ATI RV670, ATI Radeon HD3870, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850, ATI Radeon HD3850, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850 X2, ATI RV670, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2, > > > ATI Radeon HD3870 X2, ATI FireGL V7700, ATI Radeon HD3850, > > > ATI Radeon HD3690, AMD Firestream 9170, ATI Radeon HD 4550, > > > ATI Radeon RV710, ATI Radeon RV710, ATI Radeon RV710, > > > ATI Radeon HD 4350, ATI Mobility Radeon 4300 Series, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon 4500 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon 4500 Series, > > > ATI FirePro RG220, ATI Mobility Radeon 4330, ATI RV630, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT, > > > ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT AGP, ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro AGP, > > > ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro, ATI Gemini RV630, > > > ATI Gemini Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT, ATI FireGL V5600, > > > ATI FireGL V3600, ATI Radeon HD 2600 LE, > > > ATI Mobility FireGL Graphics Processor, ATI Radeon HD 3470, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3430, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series, > > > ATI Radeon HD 3450, ATI Radeon HD 3450, ATI Radeon HD 3430, > > > ATI Radeon HD 3450, ATI FirePro V3700, ATI FireMV 2450, > > > ATI FireMV 2260, ATI FireMV 2260, ATI Radeon HD 3600 Series, > > > ATI Radeon HD 3650 AGP, ATI Radeon HD 3600 PRO, > > > ATI Radeon HD 3600 XT, ATI Radeon HD 3600 PRO, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3670, > > > ATI Mobility FireGL V5700, ATI Mobility FireGL V5725, > > > ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics, ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics, > > > ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics, ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics, > > > ATI Radeon HD 3300 Graphics, ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics, > > > ATI Radeon 3000 Graphics, SUMO, SUMO, SUMO2, SUMO2, SUMO2, SUMO2, > > > SUMO, SUMO, SUMO, SUMO, SUMO, ATI Radeon HD 4200, ATI Radeon 4100, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200, ATI Mobility Radeon 4100, > > > ATI Radeon HD 4290, ATI Radeon HD 4250, AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics, > > > AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics, AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics, > > > AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics, AMD Radeon HD 6300 Series Graphics, > > > AMD Radeon HD 6200 Series Graphics, CYPRESS, > > > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, > > > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, > > > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, AMD Firestream 9370, > > > AMD Firestream 9350, ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, > > > ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, > > > ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series, > > > ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series, > > > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, > > > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, > > > ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 6700 Series, > > > ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 6700 Series, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5570, > > > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, > > > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, ATI Radeon HD 5670, > > > ATI Radeon HD 5570, ATI Radeon HD 5500 Series, REDWOOD, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon Graphics, > > > ATI Mobility Radeon Graphics, CEDAR, > > > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, > > > ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, ATI FirePro 2270, CEDAR, > > > ATI Radeon HD 5450, CEDAR, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, > > > CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series, > > > AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, > > > AMD Radeon HD 6900M Series, Mobility Radeon HD 6000 Series, BARTS, > > > BARTS, Mobility Radeon HD 6000 Series, > > > Mobility Radeon HD 6000 Series, BARTS, BARTS, BARTS, BARTS, > > > AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series, AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series, > > > AMD Radeon HD 6700 Series, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, > > > TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, CAICOS, > > > CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, > > > CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS > > > (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01@00:05:0 > > > (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support > > > (II) RADEON(0): TOTO SAYS 00000000d0200000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): MMIO registers at 0x00000000d0200000: size 64KB > > > (II) RADEON(0): PCI bus 1 card 5 func 0 > > > (==) RADEON(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Pixel depth = 24 bits stored in 4 bytes (32 bpp pixmaps) > > > (==) RADEON(0): Default visual is TrueColor > > > (**) RADEON(0): Option "BusType" "PCIE" > > > (**) RADEON(0): Option "RenderAccel" "on" > > > (**) RADEON(0): Option "AccelMethod" "xaa" > > > (**) RADEON(0): Option "DRI" "on" > > > (**) RADEON(0): Option "Int10" "on" > > > (**) RADEON(0): Option "DynamicPM" "on" > > > (II) Loading sub module "vgahw" > > > (II) LoadModule: "vgahw" > > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libvgahw.so > > > (II) Module vgahw: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 0.1.0 > > > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 > > > (II) RADEON(0): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp->IOBase is 0x03d0, hwp->PIOOffset is 0x0000 > > > (==) RADEON(0): RGB weight 888 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Using 8 bits per RGB (8 bit DAC) > > > (--) RADEON(0): Chipset: "ATI Radeon X1200" (ChipID = 0x791f) > > > (--) RADEON(0): Linear framebuffer at 0x00000000c0000000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): PCI card detected > > > (**) RADEON(0): Forced into PCI mode > > > (II) Loading sub module "int10" > > > (II) LoadModule: "int10" > > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libint10.so > > > (II) Module int10: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 > > > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 > > > (II) RADEON(0): initializing int10 > > > (**) RADEON(0): Option "int10" "on" > > > (==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x20000) was already clear > > > (==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xc0000,0x40000) was already clear > > > (II) RADEON(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 > > > (==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear > > > (II) RADEON(0): ATOM BIOS detected > > > (II) RADEON(0): ATOM BIOS Rom: > > > SubsystemVendorID: 0x1002 SubsystemID: 0x791f > > > IOBaseAddress: 0x4000 > > > Filename: br23883.bin > > > BIOS Bootup Message: > > > ATI Radeon Xpress ?1250? for HP_TT > > > > > > (II) RADEON(0): Framebuffer space used by Firmware (kb): 20 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Start of VRAM area used by Firmware: 0x7ffb000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): AtomBIOS requests 20kB of VRAM scratch space > > > (II) RADEON(0): AtomBIOS VRAM scratch base: 0x7ffb000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Cannot get VRAM scratch space. Allocating in main memory instead > > > (II) RADEON(0): Default Engine Clock: 400000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Default Memory Clock: 200000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Maximum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Output: 1200000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Minimum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Output: 0 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Maximum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Input: 13500 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Minimum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Input: 1000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Maximum Pixel Clock: 400000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Reference Clock: 14320 > > > drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 > > > drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) > > > drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:01:05.0 > > > drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 > > > drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) > > > drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 10 > > > drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:01:05.0 > > > (II) RADEON(0): [dri] Found DRI library version 1.3.0 and kernel module version 1.31.0 > > > (==) RADEON(0): Page Flipping disabled on r5xx and newer chips. > > > > > > (II) RADEON(0): Will try to use DMA for Xv image transfers > > > (II) RADEON(0): Generation 2 PCI interface, using max accessible memory > > > (II) RADEON(0): Detected total video RAM=131072K, accessible=131072K (PCI BAR=131072K) > > > (--) RADEON(0): Mapped VideoRAM: 131072 kByte (128 bit DDR SDRAM) > > > (II) RADEON(0): Color tiling enabled by default > > > (II) Loading sub module "ddc" > > > (II) LoadModule: "ddc" > > > (II) Module "ddc" already built-in > > > (II) Loading sub module "i2c" > > > (II) LoadModule: "i2c" > > > (II) Module "i2c" already built-in > > > (II) RADEON(0): PLL parameters: rf=1432 rd=12 min=80000 max=120000; xclk=40000 > > > (WW) RADEON(0): LVDS Info: > > > XRes: 1280, YRes: 800, DotClock: 71000 > > > HBlank: 160, HOverPlus: 48, HSyncWidth: 32 > > > VBlank: 23, VOverPlus: 3, VSyncWidth: 6 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Skipping TV-Out > > > (II) RADEON(0): Skipping Component Video > > > (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 using monitor section Monitor0 > > > (II) RADEON(0): I2C bus "VGA-0" initialized. > > > (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS has no monitor section > > > (II) RADEON(0): I2C bus "LVDS" initialized. > > > (II) RADEON(0): Port0: > > > XRANDR name: VGA-0 > > > Connector: VGA > > > CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1 > > > DDC reg: 0x7e50 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Port1: > > > XRANDR name: LVDS > > > Connector: LVDS > > > LCD1: INTERNAL_LVTM1 > > > DDC reg: 0x7e40 > > > (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "VGA-0:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. > > > Dac detection success > > > (II) RADEON(0): Output: VGA-0, Detected Monitor Type: 0 > > > finished output detect: 0 > > > (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "LVDS:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. > > > (II) RADEON(0): Output: LVDS, Detected Monitor Type: 2 > > > (II) RADEON(0): EDID data from the display on output: LVDS ---------------------- > > > (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer: LPL Model: d600 Serial#: 0 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Year: 2006 Week: 0 > > > (II) RADEON(0): EDID Version: 1.3 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Digital Display Input > > > (II) RADEON(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 33 vert.: 21 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Gamma: 2.20 > > > (II) RADEON(0): No DPMS capabilities specified > > > (II) RADEON(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4 > > > (II) RADEON(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode > > > (II) RADEON(0): redX: 0.600 redY: 0.351 greenX: 0.324 greenY: 0.554 > > > (II) RADEON(0): blueX: 0.153 blueY: 0.145 whiteX: 0.312 whiteY: 0.328 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Supported detailed timing: > > > (II) RADEON(0): clock: 71.0 MHz Image Size: 331 x 207 mm > > > (II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1280 h_sync: 1328 h_sync_end 1360 h_blank_end 1440 h_border: 0 > > > (II) RADEON(0): v_active: 800 v_sync: 803 v_sync_end 809 v_blanking: 823 v_border: 0 > > > (II) RADEON(0): LGPhilipsLCD > > > (II) RADEON(0): LP154WX4-TLA1 > > > (II) RADEON(0): EDID (in hex): > > > (II) RADEON(0): 00ffffffffffff00320c00d600000000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): 00100103802115780ab3409959538d27 > > > (II) RADEON(0): 25505400000001010101010101010101 > > > (II) RADEON(0): 010101010101bc1b00a0502017303020 > > > (II) RADEON(0): 36004bcf100000190000000000000000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): 00000000000000000000000000fe004c > > > (II) RADEON(0): 475068696c6970734c43440a000000fe > > > (II) RADEON(0): 004c503135345758342d544c4131004d > > > finished output detect: 1 > > > finished all detect > > > Dac detection success > > > (II) RADEON(0): Output: VGA-0, Detected Monitor Type: 0 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Output: LVDS, Detected Monitor Type: 2 > > > (II) RADEON(0): EDID data from the display on output: LVDS ---------------------- > > > (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer: LPL Model: d600 Serial#: 0 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Year: 2006 Week: 0 > > > (II) RADEON(0): EDID Version: 1.3 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Digital Display Input > > > (II) RADEON(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 33 vert.: 21 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Gamma: 2.20 > > > (II) RADEON(0): No DPMS capabilities specified > > > (II) RADEON(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4 > > > (II) RADEON(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode > > > (II) RADEON(0): redX: 0.600 redY: 0.351 greenX: 0.324 greenY: 0.554 > > > (II) RADEON(0): blueX: 0.153 blueY: 0.145 whiteX: 0.312 whiteY: 0.328 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Supported detailed timing: > > > (II) RADEON(0): clock: 71.0 MHz Image Size: 331 x 207 mm > > > (II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1280 h_sync: 1328 h_sync_end 1360 h_blank_end 1440 h_border: 0 > > > (II) RADEON(0): v_active: 800 v_sync: 803 v_sync_end 809 v_blanking: 823 v_border: 0 > > > (II) RADEON(0): LGPhilipsLCD > > > (II) RADEON(0): LP154WX4-TLA1 > > > (II) RADEON(0): EDID (in hex): > > > (II) RADEON(0): 00ffffffffffff00320c00d600000000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): 00100103802115780ab3409959538d27 > > > (II) RADEON(0): 25505400000001010101010101010101 > > > (II) RADEON(0): 010101010101bc1b00a0502017303020 > > > (II) RADEON(0): 36004bcf100000190000000000000000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): 00000000000000000000000000fe004c > > > (II) RADEON(0): 475068696c6970734c43440a000000fe > > > (II) RADEON(0): 004c503135345758342d544c4131004d > > > (II) RADEON(0): EDID vendor "LPL", prod id 54784 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 disconnected > > > (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS connected > > > (II) RADEON(0): Using exact sizes for initial modes > > > (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS using initial mode 1280x800 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Using default gamma of (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) unless otherwise stated. > > > (==) RADEON(0): DPI set to (96, 96) > > > (II) Loading sub module "fb" > > > (II) LoadModule: "fb" > > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so > > > (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 > > > ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 > > > (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" > > > (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" > > > (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in > > > (**) RADEON(0): Using XAA acceleration architecture > > > (II) Loading sub module "xaa" > > > (II) LoadModule: "xaa" > > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libxaa.so > > > (II) Module xaa: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > > > compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.2.1 > > > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 > > > (==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear > > > (!!) RADEON(0): MergedFB support has been removed and replaced with xrandr 1.2 support > > > (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp > > > (II) RADEON(0): RADEONScreenInit c0000000 0 0 > > > (==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear > > > Output LCD1 disable success > > > Blank CRTC 0 success > > > Disable CRTC 0 success > > > Blank CRTC 1 success > > > Disable CRTC 1 success > > > (II) RADEON(0): Dynamic Power Management Enabled > > > (==) RADEON(0): Using 24 bit depth buffer > > > (II) RADEON(0): RADEONInitMemoryMap() : > > > (II) RADEON(0): mem_size : 0x08000000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0xbfffb800 > > > (II) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0x003f0000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Depth moves disabled by default > > > (II) RADEON(0): Using 32 MB GART aperture > > > (II) RADEON(0): Using 1 MB for the ring buffer > > > (II) RADEON(0): Using 2 MB for vertex/indirect buffers > > > (II) RADEON(0): Using 29 MB for GART textures > > > (II) RADEON(0): Memory manager initialized to (0,0) (1280,8191) > > > (II) RADEON(0): Reserved area from (0,1280) to (1280,1282) > > > (II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1280 x 6909 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Will use front buffer at offset 0x0 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Will use back buffer at offset 0x1978000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Will use depth buffer at offset 0x1fb8000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Will use 92160 kb for textures at offset 0x25f8000 > > > drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 > > > drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) > > > drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 > > > drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) > > > drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:01:05.0 > > > drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 > > > drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) > > > drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 10 > > > drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:01:05.0 > > > (II) [drm] DRM interface version 1.2 > > > (II) [drm] DRM open master succeeded. > > > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Using the DRM lock SAREA also for drawables. > > > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0x40000000000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel > > > (II) RADEON(0): X context handle = 0x1 > > > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler > > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] 32768 kB allocated with handle 0xcff65000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] ring handle = 0x00000000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring mapped at 0x804c1f000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring contents 0x00000000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] ring read ptr handle = 0x00000000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring read ptr mapped at 0x80090e000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring read ptr contents 0x00000000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] vertex/indirect buffers handle = 0x00000000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Vertex/indirect buffers mapped at 0x80ce00000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Vertex/indirect buffers contents 0x00000000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] GART texture map handle = 0x00000000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): [pci] GART Texture map mapped at 0x80d094000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] register handle = 0x00000000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): [dri] Visual configs initialized > > > (II) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMemMapRegisters() : > > > (II) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0xbfffb800 0xbfffb800 > > > (II) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0x003f0000 > > > (==) RADEON(0): Backing store disabled > > > (II) RADEON(0): [DRI] installation complete > > > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Added 32 65536 byte vertex/indirect buffers > > > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Mapped 32 vertex/indirect buffers > > > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] dma control initialized, using IRQ 256 > > > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Initialized kernel GART heap manager, 29884416 > > > (WW) RADEON(0): DRI init changed memory map, adjusting ... > > > (WW) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION was: 0xbfffb800 is: 0xbfffb800 > > > (WW) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION was: 0x003f0000 is: 0xc1ffc000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMemMapRegisters() : > > > (II) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0xbfffb800 0xbfffb800 > > > (II) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0xc1ffc000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering enabled > > > (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration disabled > > > (II) RADEON(0): num quad-pipes is 1 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) > > > Screen to screen bit blits > > > Solid filled rectangles > > > 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles > > > Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion > > > Solid Lines > > > Scanline Image Writes > > > Setting up tile and stipple cache: > > > 32 128x128 slots > > > 32 256x256 slots > > > 16 512x512 slots > > > (II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled > > > (==) RADEON(0): DPMS enabled > > > (==) RADEON(0): Silken mouse enabled > > > (II) RADEON(0): Will use 32 kb for hardware cursor 0 at offset 0x00643000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Will use 32 kb for hardware cursor 1 at offset 0x00648000 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1280 x 6901 > > > (II) RADEON(0): Set up textured video > > > (II) RADEON(0): [XvMC] Associated with Radeon Textured Video. > > > (II) RADEON(0): [XvMC] Extension initialized. > > > Output CRT1 disable success > > > Output LCD1 disable success > > > Blank CRTC 0 success > > > Disable CRTC 0 success > > > Blank CRTC 1 success > > > Disable CRTC 1 success > > > > > > > > > I tried running Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new > > > > > > I get black screen, from which I can't recover. > > > CTRL+ALT+F<...> does nothing, > > > CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE does nothing. > > > > > > And I can't kill Xorg: > > > > > > # ps ax |grep Xorg > > > 1056 0 RE+ 5:54.16 Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new -retro > > > 1112 1 RL+ 0:00.02 grep Xorg > > > # kill -9 1056 > > > # ps ax |grep Xorg > > > 1056 0 RE+ 6:01.24 Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new -retro > > > 1114 1 S+ 0:00.02 grep Xorg > > > # > > > > > > The only way I can recover is reboot. > > > > > > Please advise. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Anton Shterenlikht > > > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > > > Mech Eng Dept > > > Bristol University > 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freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't kill -9 Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:55:16 -0000 On 12-Jun-2012, at 1:54 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 09:13:06AM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:07:06AM +0530, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote: >>> Hello >>>=20 >>> What happens if you run without a xorg.conf? Xorg has become pretty = good at guessing correct settings these days. >>>=20 >>=20 >> No change. >> I removed /etc/X11/xorg.conf completely. >=20 > Anyway, I can understand my X setup is fucked, no problem. Okay. That is kind of odd. But I am assuming you figured out what the = precise problem is. >=20 > What worries me more is the the fact that a process ignores > kill -9. Doesn't it indicate a problem with the OS? > I think potentially this is a security vulnerability. No not really. There are instances when a process can ignore SIGKILL or = kill -9 as colloquially stated. For example, when a process in in the = state of an "uninterruptible sleep", marked as D in the top output, it = will ignore all signals. Similarly for processes which are zombies, = showing up as Z in the top output, will ignore the SIGKILL as well. Ideally, if you think you are hitting on a case where the process is not = an uninterruptible state and still refuses to listen to SIGKILL, you = should attach a strace or dtrace session to the process and see what is = going on. Thanks Subhro -- Subhro Sankha Kar System Administrator Working and Playing with FreeBSD since 2002 >=20 >>=20 >> # X >>=20 >> X.Org X Server 1.7.7 >> Release Date: 2010-05-04 >> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 >> Build Operating System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64=20 >> Current Operating System: FreeBSD mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk = 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r236740M: Sat Jun 9 22:35:49 BST = 2012 root@mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUZI = amd64 >> Build Date: 11 June 2012 12:11:20PM >>=20 >> Current version of pixman: 0.24.2 >> Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org >> to make sure that you have the latest version. >> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (=3D=3D) default = setting, >> (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, >> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. >> (=3D=3D) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Jun 12 09:10:17 = 2012 >> (=3D=3D) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines) >> (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0) >> (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0) >> XRANDR name: VGA-0 >> Connector: VGA >> CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1 >> DDC reg: 0x7e50 >> XRANDR name: LVDS >> Connector: LVDS >> LCD1: INTERNAL_LVTM1 >> DDC reg: 0x7e40 >> Dac detection success >> finished output detect: 0 >> finished output detect: 1 >> finished all detect >> Dac detection success >> Output LCD1 disable success >> Blank CRTC 0 success >> Disable CRTC 0 success >> Blank CRTC 1 success >> Disable CRTC 1 success >> Output CRT1 disable success >> Output LCD1 disable success >> Blank CRTC 0 success >> Disable CRTC 0 success >> Blank CRTC 1 success >> Disable CRTC 1 success >> ^C^C^C >>=20 >> Can kill it with neither CTRL/C >> nor kill -9: >>=20 >> # ps ax|grep X >> 1060 0 R+ 0:38.95 X (Xorg) >> 1073 1 R+ 0:00.01 grep X >> # kill -9 1060 >> # ps ax|grep X >> 1060 0 RE+ 0:45.71 X (Xorg) >> 1089 1 R+ 0:00.00 grep X >> #=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Anton >>=20 >>=20 >>> Thanks >>> -- >>> Subhro Sankha Kar >>> System Administrator >>> Working and Playing with FreeBSD since 2002 >>>=20 >>> On 11-Jun-2012, at 5:01 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >>>=20 >>>> My X is unusable since the recent png update. >>>>=20 >>>> This is r236740M on HP Compaq 6715s amd64 laptop. >>>>=20 >>>> I've no hal installed (if this matters). >>>>=20 >>>> # pkg info -x xorg >>>> linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 10) >>>> xorg-cf-files-1.0.4 X.org cf files for use with imake = builds >>>> xorg-fonts-7.5.1 X.org fonts meta-port >>>> xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.5.1 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts >>>> xorg-fonts-75dpi-7.5.1 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts >>>> xorg-fonts-cyrillic-7.5.1 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts >>>> xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-7.5.1 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts >>>> xorg-fonts-truetype-7.5.1 X.Org TrueType fonts >>>> xorg-fonts-type1-7.5.1 X.Org Type1 fonts >>>> xorg-libraries-7.5.1 X.org libraries meta-port >>>> xorg-macros-1.16.1 X.Org development aclocal macros >>>> xorg-server-1.7.7_5,1 X.Org X server and related programs >>>> #=20 >>>>=20 >>>> # pkg info -x xf86 >>>> libXxf86dga-1.1.2 X DGA Extension >>>> libXxf86misc-1.0.3 X XF86-Misc Extension >>>> libXxf86vm-1.1.1 X Vidmode Extension >>>> xf86-input-keyboard-1.6.1 X.Org keyboard input driver >>>> xf86-input-mouse-1.7.1 X.Org mouse input driver >>>> xf86-video-ati-6.14.3_1 X.Org ati display driver >>>> xf86bigfontproto-1.2.0 XFree86-Bigfont extension headers >>>> xf86dgaproto-2.1 XFree86-DGA extension headers >>>> xf86driproto-2.1.1 XFree86-DRI extension headers >>>> xf86miscproto-0.9.3 XFree86-Misc extension headers >>>> xf86vidmodeproto-2.3.1 XFree86-VidModeExtension extension = headers >>>> #=20 >>>>=20 >>>> My xorg.conf.new: >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Section "ServerLayout" >>>> Identifier "X.org Configured" >>>> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 >>>> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" >>>> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" >>>> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "Off" >>>> EndSection >>>>=20 >>>> Section "Files" >>>> ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" >>>> EndSection >>>>=20 >>>> Section "Module" >>>> Load "extmod" >>>> Load "record" >>>> Load "dbe" >>>> Load "glx" >>>> Load "dri" >>>> Load "dri2" >>>> EndSection >>>>=20 >>>> Section "InputDevice" >>>> Identifier "Keyboard0" >>>> Driver "kbd" >>>> EndSection >>>>=20 >>>> Section "InputDevice" >>>> Identifier "Mouse0" >>>> Driver "mouse" >>>> Option "Protocol" "auto" >>>> Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" >>>> Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" >>>> EndSection >>>>=20 >>>> Section "Monitor" >>>> #DisplaySize 330 210 # mm >>>> Identifier "Monitor0" >>>> VendorName "LPL" >>>> ModelName "d600" >>>> EndSection >>>>=20 >>>> Section "Device" >>>> Identifier "Card0" >>>> Driver "radeon" >>>> VendorName "Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI" >>>> BoardName "RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]" >>>> BusID "PCI:1:5:0" >>>> Option "int10" "on" >>>> Option "BusType" "PCIE" >>>> Option "RenderAccel" "on" >>>> Option "AccelMethod" "xaa" >>>> Option "DynamicPM" "on" >>>> Option "DRI" "on" >>>> EndSection >>>>=20 >>>> Section "Screen" >>>> Identifier "Screen0" >>>> Device "Card0" >>>> Monitor "Monitor0" >>>> SubSection "Display" >>>> Viewport 0 0 >>>> Depth 1 >>>> EndSubSection >>>> SubSection "Display" >>>> Viewport 0 0 >>>> Depth 4 >>>> EndSubSection >>>> SubSection "Display" >>>> Viewport 0 0 >>>> Depth 8 >>>> EndSubSection >>>> SubSection "Display" >>>> Viewport 0 0 >>>> Depth 15 >>>> EndSubSection >>>> SubSection "Display" >>>> Viewport 0 0 >>>> Depth 16 >>>> EndSubSection >>>> SubSection "Display" >>>> Viewport 0 0 >>>> Depth 24 >>>> EndSubSection >>>> EndSection >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> The Xorg.0.log: >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> X.Org X Server 1.7.7 >>>> Release Date: 2010-05-04 >>>> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 >>>> Build Operating System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64=20 >>>> Current Operating System: FreeBSD mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk = 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r236740M: Sat Jun 9 22:35:49 BST = 2012 root@mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUZI = amd64 >>>> Build Date: 11 June 2012 12:11:20PM >>>>=20 >>>> Current version of pixman: 0.24.2 >>>> Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org >>>> to make sure that you have the latest version. >>>> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (=3D=3D) default = setting, >>>> (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, >>>> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. >>>> (=3D=3D) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Jun 11 12:24:08 = 2012 >>>> (++) Using config file: "/root/xorg.conf.new" >>>> (=3D=3D) ServerLayout "X.org Configured" >>>> (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) >>>> (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" >>>> (**) | |-->Device "Card0" >>>> (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" >>>> (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" >>>> (**) Option "AllowEmptyInput" "Off" >>>> (=3D=3D) Not automatically adding devices >>>> (=3D=3D) Not automatically enabling devices >>>> (**) FontPath set to: >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ >>>> (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" >>>> (II) Loader magic: 0x7bd3c0 >>>> (II) Module ABI versions: >>>> X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 >>>> X.Org Video Driver: 6.0 >>>> X.Org XInput driver : 7.0 >>>> X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 >>>> (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) >>>> (--) using VT number 9 >>>>=20 >>>> (--) PCI:*(0:1:5:0) 1002:791f:103c:30c2 Advanced Micro Devices = [AMD] nee ATI RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series] rev 0, Mem @ = 0xc0000000/134217728, 0xd0200000/65536, 0xd0300000/1048576, I/O @ = 0x00004000/256, BIOS @ 0x????????/65536 >>>> (II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also = specified in the config file. >>>> (II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also = specified in the config file. >>>> (II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also = specified in the config file. >>>> (II) "record" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also = specified in the config file. >>>> (II) "dri" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also = specified in the config file. >>>> (II) "dri2" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also = specified in the config file. >>>> (II) LoadModule: "extmod" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so >>>> (II) Module extmod: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.0.0 >>>> Module class: X.Org Server Extension >>>> ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 >>>> (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER >>>> (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension >>>> (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA >>>> (II) Loading extension DPMS >>>> (II) Loading extension XVideo >>>> (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation >>>> (II) Loading extension X-Resource >>>> (II) LoadModule: "record" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so >>>> (II) Module record: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.13.0 >>>> Module class: X.Org Server Extension >>>> ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 >>>> (II) Loading extension RECORD >>>> (II) LoadModule: "dbe" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so >>>> (II) Module dbe: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.0.0 >>>> Module class: X.Org Server Extension >>>> ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 >>>> (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER >>>> (II) LoadModule: "glx" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so >>>> (II) Module glx: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.0.0 >>>> ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 >>>> (=3D=3D) AIGLX disabled >>>> (II) Loading extension GLX >>>> (II) LoadModule: "dri" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so >>>> (II) Module dri: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.0.0 >>>> ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 >>>> (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI >>>> (II) LoadModule: "dri2" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so >>>> (II) Module dri2: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.1.0 >>>> ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 >>>> (II) Loading extension DRI2 >>>> (II) LoadModule: "radeon" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so >>>> (II) Module radeon: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 6.14.3 >>>> Module class: X.Org Video Driver >>>> ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 >>>> (II) LoadModule: "mouse" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so >>>> (II) Module mouse: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.7.1 >>>> Module class: X.Org XInput Driver >>>> ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0 >>>> (II) LoadModule: "kbd" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so >>>> (II) Module kbd: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.6.1 >>>> Module class: X.Org XInput Driver >>>> ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0 >>>> (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility X600 (M24) 3150 (PCIE), ATI FireMV 2400 = (PCI), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility X300 (M24) 3152 (PCIE), >>>> ATI FireGL M24 GL 3154 (PCIE), ATI FireMV 2400 3155 (PCI), >>>> ATI Radeon X600 (RV380) 3E50 (PCIE), >>>> ATI FireGL V3200 (RV380) 3E54 (PCIE), ATI Radeon IGP320 (A3) = 4136, >>>> ATI Radeon IGP330/340/350 (A4) 4137, ATI Radeon 9500 AD (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon 9500 AE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600TX AF (AGP), >>>> ATI FireGL Z1 AG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800SE AH (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon 9800 AI (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800 AJ (AGP), >>>> ATI FireGL X2 AK (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600 AP (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon 9600SE AQ (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600XT AR (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon 9600 AS (AGP), ATI FireGL T2 AT (AGP), ATI Radeon = 9650, >>>> ATI FireGL RV360 AV (AGP), ATI Radeon 7000 IGP (A4+) 4237, >>>> ATI Radeon 8500 AIW BB (AGP), ATI Radeon IGP320M (U1) 4336, >>>> ATI Radeon IGP330M/340M/350M (U2) 4337, >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility 7000 IGP 4437, ATI Radeon 9000/PRO If = (AGP/PCI), >>>> ATI Radeon 9000 Ig (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JH (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon X800PRO (R420) JI (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon X800SE (R420) JJ (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JK = (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JL (AGP), ATI FireGL X3 (R420) JM (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility 9800 (M18) JN (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon X800 SE (R420) (AGP), ATI Radeon X800XT (R420) JP = (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon X800 VE (R420) JT (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 (R480) = (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon X850 XT (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 SE (R480) = (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon X850 PRO (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 XT PE (R480) = (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility M7 LW (AGP), >>>> ATI Mobility FireGL 7800 M7 LX (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LZ = (AGP), >>>> ATI FireGL Mobility 9000 (M9) Ld (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lg (AGP), ATI Radeon 9700 Pro ND = (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon 9700/9500Pro NE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600TX NF (AGP), >>>> ATI FireGL X1 NG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800PRO NH (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon 9800 NI (AGP), ATI FireGL X2 NK (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon 9800XT NJ (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility 9600/9700 (M10/M11) NP (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NQ (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M11) NR (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NS (AGP), >>>> ATI FireGL Mobility T2 (M10) NT (AGP), >>>> ATI FireGL Mobility T2e (M11) NV (AGP), ATI Radeon QD (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP), >>>> ATI FireGL 8700/8800 QH (AGP), ATI Radeon 8500 QL (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon 9100 QM (AGP), ATI Radeon 7500 QW (AGP/PCI), >>>> ATI Radeon 7500 QX (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon VE/7000 QY (AGP/PCI), >>>> ATI Radeon VE/7000 QZ (AGP/PCI), ATI ES1000 515E (PCI), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility X300 (M22) 5460 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility X600 SE (M24C) 5462 (PCIE), >>>> ATI FireGL M22 GL 5464 (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 (R423) UH (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X800PRO (R423) UI (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X800LE (R423) UJ (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X800SE (R423) UK (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X800 XTP (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 XL (R430) = (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X800 SE (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 (R430) (PCIE), >>>> ATI FireGL V7100 (R423) (PCIE), ATI FireGL V5100 (R423) UQ = (PCIE), >>>> ATI FireGL unknown (R423) UR (PCIE), >>>> ATI FireGL unknown (R423) UT (PCIE), >>>> ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 (M26) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 (M26) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X700 XL (M26) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X550XTX 5657 (PCIE), ATI Radeon 9100 IGP (A5) 5834, >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility 9100 IGP (U3) 5835, >>>> ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5954 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE), ATI Radeon 9250 5960 (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon 9200 5961 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9200 5962 (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon 9200SE 5964 (AGP), ATI FireMV 2200 (PCI), >>>> ATI ES1000 5969 (PCI), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5974 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5975 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A41 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A42 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A61 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A62 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X300 (RV370) 5B60 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X600 (RV370) 5B62 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X550 (RV370) 5B63 (PCIE), >>>> ATI FireGL V3100 (RV370) 5B64 (PCIE), >>>> ATI FireMV 2200 PCIE (RV370) 5B65 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C61 (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C63 (AGP), >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X800 XT (M28) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Mobility FireGL V5100 (M28) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X800 (M28) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 5D4C = (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X850 XT PE (R480) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X850 SE (R480) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 PRO (R480) = (PCIE), >>>> ATI unknown Radeon / FireGL (R480) 5D50 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X850 XT (R480) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X800XT (R423) 5D57 (PCIE), >>>> ATI FireGL V5000 (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 XT (RV410) = (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X700 PRO (RV410) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X700 SE (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 (RV410) = (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X700 SE (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X1800, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X1800 XT, ATI Mobility Radeon X1800, >>>> ATI Mobility FireGL V7200, ATI FireGL V7200, ATI FireGL V5300, >>>> ATI Mobility FireGL V7100, ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800, >>>> ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800, >>>> ATI FireGL V7300, ATI FireGL V7350, ATI Radeon X1600, ATI RV505, >>>> ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Radeon X1550, ATI M54-GL, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X1400, ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, >>>> ATI Radeon X1550 64-bit, ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1300, >>>> ATI RV505, ATI RV505, ATI FireGL V3300, ATI FireGL V3350, >>>> ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1550 64-bit, ATI Radeon = X1300/X1550, >>>> ATI Radeon X1600, ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Mobility Radeon = X1450, >>>> ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Mobility Radeon X2300, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X2300, ATI Mobility Radeon X1350, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X1350, ATI Mobility Radeon X1450, >>>> ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1550, ATI Mobility Radeon X1350, >>>> ATI FireMV 2250, ATI Radeon X1550 64-bit, ATI Radeon X1600, >>>> ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1600, ATI Radeon X1600, >>>> ATI Mobility FireGL V5200, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600, >>>> ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1600, >>>> ATI Radeon X1300 XT/X1600 Pro, ATI FireGL V3400, >>>> ATI Mobility FireGL V5250, ATI Mobility Radeon X1700, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X1700 XT, ATI FireGL V5200, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X1700, ATI Radeon X2300HD, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2300, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2300, >>>> ATI Radeon X1950, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1950, >>>> ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, >>>> ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, >>>> ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, >>>> ATI AMD Stream Processor, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1950, >>>> ATI RV560, ATI RV560, ATI Mobility Radeon X1900, ATI RV560, >>>> ATI Radeon X1950 GT, ATI RV570, ATI RV570, ATI FireGL V7400, >>>> ATI RV560, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI RV560, >>>> ATI Radeon 9100 PRO IGP 7834, ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 IGP 7835, >>>> ATI Radeon X1200, ATI Radeon X1200, ATI Radeon X1200, >>>> ATI Radeon X1200, ATI Radeon X1200, ATI RS740, ATI RS740M, ATI = RS740, >>>> ATI RS740M, ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2900 Pro, ATI Radeon HD = 2900 GT, >>>> ATI FireGL V8650, ATI FireGL V8600, ATI FireGL V7600, >>>> ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4870 x2, >>>> ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4850 x2, >>>> ATI FirePro V8750 (FireGL), ATI FirePro V7760 (FireGL), >>>> ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4850, ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4850 X2, >>>> ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI FirePro RV770, AMD FireStream 9270, >>>> AMD FireStream 9250, ATI FirePro V8700 (FireGL), >>>> ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4870, ATI Mobility RADEON M98, >>>> ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4870, ATI Radeon 4800 Series, >>>> ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI FirePro M7750, ATI M98, ATI M98, ATI = M98, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650, ATI Radeon RV730 (AGP), >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670, ATI FirePro M5750, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670, ATI Radeon RV730 (AGP), >>>> ATI RV730XT [Radeon HD 4670], ATI RADEON E4600, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series, ATI RV730 PRO [Radeon HD 4650], >>>> ATI FirePro V7750 (FireGL), ATI FirePro V5700 (FireGL), >>>> ATI FirePro V3750 (FireGL), ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4830, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4850, ATI FirePro M7740, ATI RV740, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 4770, ATI Radeon HD 4700 Series, ATI Radeon HD = 4770, >>>> ATI FirePro M5750, ATI RV610, ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro, ATI Radeon HD 2400 PRO AGP, ATI FireGL = V4000, >>>> ATI RV610, ATI Radeon HD 2350, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400 XT, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400, ATI RADEON E2400, ATI RV610, >>>> ATI FireMV 2260, ATI RV670, ATI Radeon HD3870, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850, ATI Radeon HD3850, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850 X2, ATI RV670, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2, >>>> ATI Radeon HD3870 X2, ATI FireGL V7700, ATI Radeon HD3850, >>>> ATI Radeon HD3690, AMD Firestream 9170, ATI Radeon HD 4550, >>>> ATI Radeon RV710, ATI Radeon RV710, ATI Radeon RV710, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 4350, ATI Mobility Radeon 4300 Series, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon 4500 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon 4500 = Series, >>>> ATI FirePro RG220, ATI Mobility Radeon 4330, ATI RV630, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT AGP, ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro AGP, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro, ATI Gemini RV630, >>>> ATI Gemini Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT, ATI FireGL V5600, >>>> ATI FireGL V3600, ATI Radeon HD 2600 LE, >>>> ATI Mobility FireGL Graphics Processor, ATI Radeon HD 3470, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3430, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 3450, ATI Radeon HD 3450, ATI Radeon HD 3430, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 3450, ATI FirePro V3700, ATI FireMV 2450, >>>> ATI FireMV 2260, ATI FireMV 2260, ATI Radeon HD 3600 Series, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 3650 AGP, ATI Radeon HD 3600 PRO, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 3600 XT, ATI Radeon HD 3600 PRO, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3670, >>>> ATI Mobility FireGL V5700, ATI Mobility FireGL V5725, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics, ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics, ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 3300 Graphics, ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics, >>>> ATI Radeon 3000 Graphics, SUMO, SUMO, SUMO2, SUMO2, SUMO2, = SUMO2, >>>> SUMO, SUMO, SUMO, SUMO, SUMO, ATI Radeon HD 4200, ATI Radeon = 4100, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200, ATI Mobility Radeon 4100, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 4290, ATI Radeon HD 4250, AMD Radeon HD 6310 = Graphics, >>>> AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics, AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics, >>>> AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics, AMD Radeon HD 6300 Series Graphics, >>>> AMD Radeon HD 6200 Series Graphics, CYPRESS, >>>> ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, >>>> ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, >>>> ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, AMD Firestream 9370, >>>> AMD Firestream 9350, ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series, >>>> ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, >>>> ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 6700 Series, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 6700 Series, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5570, >>>> ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, >>>> ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, ATI Radeon HD 5670, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 5570, ATI Radeon HD 5500 Series, REDWOOD, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon = Graphics, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon Graphics, CEDAR, >>>> ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, >>>> ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, ATI FirePro 2270, CEDAR, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 5450, CEDAR, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, = CAYMAN, >>>> CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, AMD Radeon HD 6900 = Series, >>>> AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, >>>> AMD Radeon HD 6900M Series, Mobility Radeon HD 6000 Series, = BARTS, >>>> BARTS, Mobility Radeon HD 6000 Series, >>>> Mobility Radeon HD 6000 Series, BARTS, BARTS, BARTS, BARTS, >>>> AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series, AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series, >>>> AMD Radeon HD 6700 Series, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, = TURKS, >>>> TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, CAICOS, >>>> CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, >>>> CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS >>>> (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01@00:05:0 >>>> (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support >>>> (II) RADEON(0): TOTO SAYS 00000000d0200000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): MMIO registers at 0x00000000d0200000: size 64KB >>>> (II) RADEON(0): PCI bus 1 card 5 func 0 >>>> (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Pixel depth =3D 24 bits stored in 4 bytes (32 bpp = pixmaps) >>>> (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): Default visual is TrueColor >>>> (**) RADEON(0): Option "BusType" "PCIE" >>>> (**) RADEON(0): Option "RenderAccel" "on" >>>> (**) RADEON(0): Option "AccelMethod" "xaa" >>>> (**) RADEON(0): Option "DRI" "on" >>>> (**) RADEON(0): Option "Int10" "on" >>>> (**) RADEON(0): Option "DynamicPM" "on" >>>> (II) Loading sub module "vgahw" >>>> (II) LoadModule: "vgahw" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libvgahw.so >>>> (II) Module vgahw: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 0.1.0 >>>> ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp->IOBase is 0x03d0, = hwp->PIOOffset is 0x0000 >>>> (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): RGB weight 888 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Using 8 bits per RGB (8 bit DAC) >>>> (--) RADEON(0): Chipset: "ATI Radeon X1200" (ChipID =3D 0x791f) >>>> (--) RADEON(0): Linear framebuffer at 0x00000000c0000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): PCI card detected >>>> (**) RADEON(0): Forced into PCI mode >>>> (II) Loading sub module "int10" >>>> (II) LoadModule: "int10" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libint10.so >>>> (II) Module int10: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.0.0 >>>> ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): initializing int10 >>>> (**) RADEON(0): Option "int10" "on" >>>> (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x20000) was = already clear >>>> (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xc0000,0x40000) was = already clear >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 >>>> (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already = clear >>>> (II) RADEON(0): ATOM BIOS detected >>>> (II) RADEON(0): ATOM BIOS Rom:=20 >>>> SubsystemVendorID: 0x1002 SubsystemID: 0x791f >>>> IOBaseAddress: 0x4000 >>>> Filename: br23883.bin=20 >>>> BIOS Bootup Message:=20 >>>> ATI Radeon Xpress ?1250? for HP_TT = =20 >>>>=20 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Framebuffer space used by Firmware (kb): 20 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Start of VRAM area used by Firmware: 0x7ffb000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): AtomBIOS requests 20kB of VRAM scratch space >>>> (II) RADEON(0): AtomBIOS VRAM scratch base: 0x7ffb000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Cannot get VRAM scratch space. Allocating in main = memory instead >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Default Engine Clock: 400000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Default Memory Clock: 200000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Maximum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Output: 1200000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Minimum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Output: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Maximum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Input: 13500 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Minimum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Input: 1000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Maximum Pixel Clock: 400000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Reference Clock: 14320 >>>> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 >>>> drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) >>>> drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:01:05.0 >>>> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 >>>> drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) >>>> drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 10 >>>> drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:01:05.0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [dri] Found DRI library version 1.3.0 and kernel = module version 1.31.0 >>>> (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): Page Flipping disabled on r5xx and newer chips. >>>>=20 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Will try to use DMA for Xv image transfers >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Generation 2 PCI interface, using max accessible = memory >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Detected total video RAM=3D131072K, = accessible=3D131072K (PCI BAR=3D131072K) >>>> (--) RADEON(0): Mapped VideoRAM: 131072 kByte (128 bit DDR SDRAM) >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Color tiling enabled by default >>>> (II) Loading sub module "ddc" >>>> (II) LoadModule: "ddc" >>>> (II) Module "ddc" already built-in >>>> (II) Loading sub module "i2c" >>>> (II) LoadModule: "i2c" >>>> (II) Module "i2c" already built-in >>>> (II) RADEON(0): PLL parameters: rf=3D1432 rd=3D12 min=3D80000 = max=3D120000; xclk=3D40000 >>>> (WW) RADEON(0): LVDS Info: >>>> XRes: 1280, YRes: 800, DotClock: 71000 >>>> HBlank: 160, HOverPlus: 48, HSyncWidth: 32 >>>> VBlank: 23, VOverPlus: 3, VSyncWidth: 6 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Skipping TV-Out >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Skipping Component Video >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 using monitor section Monitor0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): I2C bus "VGA-0" initialized. >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS has no monitor section >>>> (II) RADEON(0): I2C bus "LVDS" initialized. >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Port0: >>>> XRANDR name: VGA-0 >>>> Connector: VGA >>>> CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1 >>>> DDC reg: 0x7e50 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Port1: >>>> XRANDR name: LVDS >>>> Connector: LVDS >>>> LCD1: INTERNAL_LVTM1 >>>> DDC reg: 0x7e40 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "VGA-0:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. >>>> Dac detection success >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Output: VGA-0, Detected Monitor Type: 0 >>>> finished output detect: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "LVDS:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Output: LVDS, Detected Monitor Type: 2 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): EDID data from the display on output: LVDS = ---------------------- >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer: LPL Model: d600 Serial#: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Year: 2006 Week: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): EDID Version: 1.3 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Digital Display Input >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 33 vert.: 21 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Gamma: 2.20 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): No DPMS capabilities specified >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4=20 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode >>>> (II) RADEON(0): redX: 0.600 redY: 0.351 greenX: 0.324 greenY: = 0.554 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): blueX: 0.153 blueY: 0.145 whiteX: 0.312 whiteY: = 0.328 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Supported detailed timing: >>>> (II) RADEON(0): clock: 71.0 MHz Image Size: 331 x 207 mm >>>> (II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1280 h_sync: 1328 h_sync_end 1360 = h_blank_end 1440 h_border: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): v_active: 800 v_sync: 803 v_sync_end 809 = v_blanking: 823 v_border: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): LGPhilipsLCD >>>> (II) RADEON(0): LP154WX4-TLA1 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): EDID (in hex): >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 00ffffffffffff00320c00d600000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 00100103802115780ab3409959538d27 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 25505400000001010101010101010101 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 010101010101bc1b00a0502017303020 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 36004bcf100000190000000000000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 00000000000000000000000000fe004c >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 475068696c6970734c43440a000000fe >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 004c503135345758342d544c4131004d >>>> finished output detect: 1 >>>> finished all detect >>>> Dac detection success >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Output: VGA-0, Detected Monitor Type: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Output: LVDS, Detected Monitor Type: 2 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): EDID data from the display on output: LVDS = ---------------------- >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer: LPL Model: d600 Serial#: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Year: 2006 Week: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): EDID Version: 1.3 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Digital Display Input >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 33 vert.: 21 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Gamma: 2.20 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): No DPMS capabilities specified >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4=20 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode >>>> (II) RADEON(0): redX: 0.600 redY: 0.351 greenX: 0.324 greenY: = 0.554 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): blueX: 0.153 blueY: 0.145 whiteX: 0.312 whiteY: = 0.328 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Supported detailed timing: >>>> (II) RADEON(0): clock: 71.0 MHz Image Size: 331 x 207 mm >>>> (II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1280 h_sync: 1328 h_sync_end 1360 = h_blank_end 1440 h_border: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): v_active: 800 v_sync: 803 v_sync_end 809 = v_blanking: 823 v_border: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): LGPhilipsLCD >>>> (II) RADEON(0): LP154WX4-TLA1 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): EDID (in hex): >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 00ffffffffffff00320c00d600000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 00100103802115780ab3409959538d27 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 25505400000001010101010101010101 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 010101010101bc1b00a0502017303020 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 36004bcf100000190000000000000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 00000000000000000000000000fe004c >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 475068696c6970734c43440a000000fe >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 004c503135345758342d544c4131004d >>>> (II) RADEON(0): EDID vendor "LPL", prod id 54784 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 disconnected >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS connected >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Using exact sizes for initial modes >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS using initial mode 1280x800 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Using default gamma of (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) unless = otherwise stated. >>>> (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): DPI set to (96, 96) >>>> (II) Loading sub module "fb" >>>> (II) LoadModule: "fb" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so >>>> (II) Module fb: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.0.0 >>>> ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 >>>> (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" >>>> (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" >>>> (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in >>>> (**) RADEON(0): Using XAA acceleration architecture >>>> (II) Loading sub module "xaa" >>>> (II) LoadModule: "xaa" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libxaa.so >>>> (II) Module xaa: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.2.1 >>>> ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 >>>> (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already = clear >>>> (!!) RADEON(0): MergedFB support has been removed and replaced with = xrandr 1.2 support >>>> (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp >>>> (II) RADEON(0): RADEONScreenInit c0000000 0 0 >>>> (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was = already clear >>>> Output LCD1 disable success >>>> Blank CRTC 0 success >>>> Disable CRTC 0 success >>>> Blank CRTC 1 success >>>> Disable CRTC 1 success >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Dynamic Power Management Enabled >>>> (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): Using 24 bit depth buffer >>>> (II) RADEON(0): RADEONInitMemoryMap() :=20 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): mem_size : 0x08000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0xbfffb800 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0x003f0000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Depth moves disabled by default >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Using 32 MB GART aperture >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Using 1 MB for the ring buffer >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Using 2 MB for vertex/indirect buffers >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Using 29 MB for GART textures >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Memory manager initialized to (0,0) (1280,8191) >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Reserved area from (0,1280) to (1280,1282) >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1280 x 6909 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Will use front buffer at offset 0x0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Will use back buffer at offset 0x1978000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Will use depth buffer at offset 0x1fb8000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Will use 92160 kb for textures at offset 0x25f8000 >>>> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 >>>> drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) >>>> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 >>>> drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) >>>> drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:01:05.0 >>>> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 >>>> drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) >>>> drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 10 >>>> drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:01:05.0 >>>> (II) [drm] DRM interface version 1.2 >>>> (II) [drm] DRM open master succeeded. >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Using the DRM lock SAREA also for drawables. >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [drm] framebuffer handle =3D 0x40000000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel >>>> (II) RADEON(0): X context handle =3D 0x1 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] 32768 kB allocated with handle 0xcff65000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] ring handle =3D 0x00000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring mapped at 0x804c1f000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring contents 0x00000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] ring read ptr handle =3D 0x00000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring read ptr mapped at 0x80090e000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring read ptr contents 0x00000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] vertex/indirect buffers handle =3D 0x00000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Vertex/indirect buffers mapped at 0x80ce00000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Vertex/indirect buffers contents 0x00000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] GART texture map handle =3D 0x00000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] GART Texture map mapped at 0x80d094000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [drm] register handle =3D 0x00000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [dri] Visual configs initialized >>>> (II) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMemMapRegisters() :=20 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0xbfffb800 0xbfffb800 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0x003f0000 >>>> (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): Backing store disabled >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [DRI] installation complete >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Added 32 65536 byte vertex/indirect buffers >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Mapped 32 vertex/indirect buffers >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [drm] dma control initialized, using IRQ 256 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Initialized kernel GART heap manager, = 29884416 >>>> (WW) RADEON(0): DRI init changed memory map, adjusting ... >>>> (WW) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION was: 0xbfffb800 is: 0xbfffb800 >>>> (WW) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION was: 0x003f0000 is: 0xc1ffc000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMemMapRegisters() :=20 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0xbfffb800 0xbfffb800 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0xc1ffc000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering enabled >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration disabled >>>> (II) RADEON(0): num quad-pipes is 1 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) >>>> Screen to screen bit blits >>>> Solid filled rectangles >>>> 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles >>>> Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion >>>> Solid Lines >>>> Scanline Image Writes >>>> Setting up tile and stipple cache: >>>> 32 128x128 slots >>>> 32 256x256 slots >>>> 16 512x512 slots >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled >>>> (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): DPMS enabled >>>> (=3D=3D) RADEON(0): Silken mouse enabled >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Will use 32 kb for hardware cursor 0 at offset = 0x00643000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Will use 32 kb for hardware cursor 1 at offset = 0x00648000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1280 x 6901 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Set up textured video >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [XvMC] Associated with Radeon Textured Video. >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [XvMC] Extension initialized. >>>> Output CRT1 disable success >>>> Output LCD1 disable success >>>> Blank CRTC 0 success >>>> Disable CRTC 0 success >>>> Blank CRTC 1 success >>>> Disable CRTC 1 success >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> I tried running Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new >>>>=20 >>>> I get black screen, from which I can't recover. >>>> CTRL+ALT+F<...> does nothing, >>>> CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE does nothing. >>>>=20 >>>> And I can't kill Xorg: >>>>=20 >>>> # ps ax |grep Xorg >>>> 1056 0 RE+ 5:54.16 Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new -retro >>>> 1112 1 RL+ 0:00.02 grep Xorg >>>> # kill -9 1056 >>>> # ps ax |grep Xorg >>>> 1056 0 RE+ 6:01.24 Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new -retro >>>> 1114 1 S+ 0:00.02 grep Xorg >>>> #=20 >>>>=20 >>>> The only way I can recover is reboot. >>>>=20 >>>> Please advise. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --=20 >>>> Anton Shterenlikht >>>> Room 2.6, Queen's Building >>>> Mech Eng Dept >>>> Bristol University >>>> University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK >>>> Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 >>>> Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Anton Shterenlikht >> Room 2.6, Queen's Building >> Mech Eng Dept >> Bristol University >> University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK >> Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 >> Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > --=20 > Anton Shterenlikht > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > Mech Eng Dept > Bristol University > University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK > Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 > Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 12:16:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F19106564A for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ramirocaso08@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076BF8FC16 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:16:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl8 with SMTP id l8so3783657yen.13 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:16:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject 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In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Walter Hurry Subject: Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:16:03 -0000 On 11/06/2012 23:10, Michael Sierchio wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: >> As the subject says, this is probably a newbie question (I am new to >> FreeBSD but quite experienced at Linux). >> >> FreeBSD9 on x86_64. >> >> Cron is running: >> >> $ ps -ax|grep cron >> >> 1513 ?? Is 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/cron -s >> >> 2283 0 S+ 0:00.00 grep cron >> >> $ >> >> I have a syntactically valid crontab: >> >> $ crontab -l >> #min hr dom month dow command >> >> SHELL=/bin/bash Pitfall: Even if bash is installed, it's not usually under /bin, but under /usr/local/bin >> >> PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/home/ >> daddy/bin >> >> HOME=/home/walterh >> >> 00 02 * * * /home/walterh/exports.sh >> >> 05 02 * * * /home/walterh/backup_etc.sh >> >> 10 02 * * * /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh >> >> 15 02 * * * /home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh >> >> $ >> >> So what is wrong? Why is nothing happening? I have consulted the handbook >> but see nothing. > Have you installed bash? It's not in the system base. > > What's in your shell scripts? > > - M > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 12:22:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B971065670 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:22:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hans@beastielabs.net) Received: from mail.beastielabs.net (beasties.demon.nl [82.161.3.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8688FC0C for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:22:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from merom.hotsoft.nl (merom.hotsoft.nl [192.168.0.12]) by mail.beastielabs.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5CCDHbJ049522; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:13:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hans@beastielabs.net) Message-ID: <4FD7325D.2000506@beastielabs.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:13:17 +0200 From: Hans Ottevanger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120609 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anton Shterenlikht References: <20120611113135.GA99238@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20120612081306.GA25637@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20120612082456.GA25893@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20120612082456.GA25893@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Subhro Sankha Kar Subject: Re: can't kill -9 Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:22:16 -0000 On 06/12/12 10:24, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 09:13:06AM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:07:06AM +0530, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote: >>> Hello >>> >>> What happens if you run without a xorg.conf? Xorg has become pretty good at guessing correct settings these days. >>> >> >> No change. >> I removed /etc/X11/xorg.conf completely. > > Anyway, I can understand my X setup is fucked, no problem. > > What worries me more is the the fact that a process ignores > kill -9. Doesn't it indicate a problem with the OS? > I think potentially this is a security vulnerability. > I had a similar issue with my desktop system a while ago, also using a Radeon adaptor. In my case the system ended up with a frozen image or black screen and was only accessible remotely. It appeared that the X server took 100% of a CPU and was looping in the driver in kernel space and thus unkillable. If a remember well a PCIE register seemed to be inaccessible after returning from the screen saver and the driver kept looping on this. I finally worked around the problem by removing the (barely documented) option DynamicPM from my xorg.conf. This could have consequences for power saving on a laptop however, but it could be worth trying. Kind regards, Hans > > > >> >> # X >> >> X.Org X Server 1.7.7 >> Release Date: 2010-05-04 >> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 >> Build Operating System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64 >> Current Operating System: FreeBSD mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r236740M: Sat Jun 9 22:35:49 BST 2012 root@mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUZI amd64 >> Build Date: 11 June 2012 12:11:20PM >> >> Current version of pixman: 0.24.2 >> Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org >> to make sure that you have the latest version. >> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, >> (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, >> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. >> (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Jun 12 09:10:17 2012 >> (==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines) >> (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0) >> (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0) >> XRANDR name: VGA-0 >> Connector: VGA >> CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1 >> DDC reg: 0x7e50 >> XRANDR name: LVDS >> Connector: LVDS >> LCD1: INTERNAL_LVTM1 >> DDC reg: 0x7e40 >> Dac detection success >> finished output detect: 0 >> finished output detect: 1 >> finished all detect >> Dac detection success >> Output LCD1 disable success >> Blank CRTC 0 success >> Disable CRTC 0 success >> Blank CRTC 1 success >> Disable CRTC 1 success >> Output CRT1 disable success >> Output LCD1 disable success >> Blank CRTC 0 success >> Disable CRTC 0 success >> Blank CRTC 1 success >> Disable CRTC 1 success >> ^C^C^C >> >> Can kill it with neither CTRL/C >> nor kill -9: >> >> # ps ax|grep X >> 1060 0 R+ 0:38.95 X (Xorg) >> 1073 1 R+ 0:00.01 grep X >> # kill -9 1060 >> # ps ax|grep X >> 1060 0 RE+ 0:45.71 X (Xorg) >> 1089 1 R+ 0:00.00 grep X >> # >> >> >> Anton >> >> >>> Thanks >>> -- >>> Subhro Sankha Kar >>> System Administrator >>> Working and Playing with FreeBSD since 2002 >>> >>> On 11-Jun-2012, at 5:01 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >>> >>>> My X is unusable since the recent png update. >>>> >>>> This is r236740M on HP Compaq 6715s amd64 laptop. >>>> >>>> I've no hal installed (if this matters). >>>> >>>> # pkg info -x xorg >>>> linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 10) >>>> xorg-cf-files-1.0.4 X.org cf files for use with imake builds >>>> xorg-fonts-7.5.1 X.org fonts meta-port >>>> xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.5.1 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts >>>> xorg-fonts-75dpi-7.5.1 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts >>>> xorg-fonts-cyrillic-7.5.1 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts >>>> xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-7.5.1 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts >>>> xorg-fonts-truetype-7.5.1 X.Org TrueType fonts >>>> xorg-fonts-type1-7.5.1 X.Org Type1 fonts >>>> xorg-libraries-7.5.1 X.org libraries meta-port >>>> xorg-macros-1.16.1 X.Org development aclocal macros >>>> xorg-server-1.7.7_5,1 X.Org X server and related programs >>>> # >>>> >>>> # pkg info -x xf86 >>>> libXxf86dga-1.1.2 X DGA Extension >>>> libXxf86misc-1.0.3 X XF86-Misc Extension >>>> libXxf86vm-1.1.1 X Vidmode Extension >>>> xf86-input-keyboard-1.6.1 X.Org keyboard input driver >>>> xf86-input-mouse-1.7.1 X.Org mouse input driver >>>> xf86-video-ati-6.14.3_1 X.Org ati display driver >>>> xf86bigfontproto-1.2.0 XFree86-Bigfont extension headers >>>> xf86dgaproto-2.1 XFree86-DGA extension headers >>>> xf86driproto-2.1.1 XFree86-DRI extension headers >>>> xf86miscproto-0.9.3 XFree86-Misc extension headers >>>> xf86vidmodeproto-2.3.1 XFree86-VidModeExtension extension headers >>>> # >>>> >>>> My xorg.conf.new: >>>> >>>> >>>> Section "ServerLayout" >>>> Identifier "X.org Configured" >>>> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 >>>> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" >>>> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" >>>> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "Off" >>>> EndSection >>>> >>>> Section "Files" >>>> ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" >>>> EndSection >>>> >>>> Section "Module" >>>> Load "extmod" >>>> Load "record" >>>> Load "dbe" >>>> Load "glx" >>>> Load "dri" >>>> Load "dri2" >>>> EndSection >>>> >>>> Section "InputDevice" >>>> Identifier "Keyboard0" >>>> Driver "kbd" >>>> EndSection >>>> >>>> Section "InputDevice" >>>> Identifier "Mouse0" >>>> Driver "mouse" >>>> Option "Protocol" "auto" >>>> Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" >>>> Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" >>>> EndSection >>>> >>>> Section "Monitor" >>>> #DisplaySize 330 210 # mm >>>> Identifier "Monitor0" >>>> VendorName "LPL" >>>> ModelName "d600" >>>> EndSection >>>> >>>> Section "Device" >>>> Identifier "Card0" >>>> Driver "radeon" >>>> VendorName "Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI" >>>> BoardName "RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]" >>>> BusID "PCI:1:5:0" >>>> Option "int10" "on" >>>> Option "BusType" "PCIE" >>>> Option "RenderAccel" "on" >>>> Option "AccelMethod" "xaa" >>>> Option "DynamicPM" "on" >>>> Option "DRI" "on" >>>> EndSection >>>> >>>> Section "Screen" >>>> Identifier "Screen0" >>>> Device "Card0" >>>> Monitor "Monitor0" >>>> SubSection "Display" >>>> Viewport 0 0 >>>> Depth 1 >>>> EndSubSection >>>> SubSection "Display" >>>> Viewport 0 0 >>>> Depth 4 >>>> EndSubSection >>>> SubSection "Display" >>>> Viewport 0 0 >>>> Depth 8 >>>> EndSubSection >>>> SubSection "Display" >>>> Viewport 0 0 >>>> Depth 15 >>>> EndSubSection >>>> SubSection "Display" >>>> Viewport 0 0 >>>> Depth 16 >>>> EndSubSection >>>> SubSection "Display" >>>> Viewport 0 0 >>>> Depth 24 >>>> EndSubSection >>>> EndSection >>>> >>>> >>>> The Xorg.0.log: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> X.Org X Server 1.7.7 >>>> Release Date: 2010-05-04 >>>> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 >>>> Build Operating System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64 >>>> Current Operating System: FreeBSD mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r236740M: Sat Jun 9 22:35:49 BST 2012 root@mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUZI amd64 >>>> Build Date: 11 June 2012 12:11:20PM >>>> >>>> Current version of pixman: 0.24.2 >>>> Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org >>>> to make sure that you have the latest version. >>>> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, >>>> (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, >>>> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. >>>> (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Jun 11 12:24:08 2012 >>>> (++) Using config file: "/root/xorg.conf.new" >>>> (==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured" >>>> (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) >>>> (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" >>>> (**) | |-->Device "Card0" >>>> (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" >>>> (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" >>>> (**) Option "AllowEmptyInput" "Off" >>>> (==) Not automatically adding devices >>>> (==) Not automatically enabling devices >>>> (**) FontPath set to: >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, >>>> /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ >>>> (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" >>>> (II) Loader magic: 0x7bd3c0 >>>> (II) Module ABI versions: >>>> X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 >>>> X.Org Video Driver: 6.0 >>>> X.Org XInput driver : 7.0 >>>> X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 >>>> (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) >>>> (--) using VT number 9 >>>> >>>> (--) PCI:*(0:1:5:0) 1002:791f:103c:30c2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series] rev 0, Mem @ 0xc0000000/134217728, 0xd0200000/65536, 0xd0300000/1048576, I/O @ 0x00004000/256, BIOS @ 0x????????/65536 >>>> (II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. >>>> (II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. >>>> (II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. >>>> (II) "record" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. >>>> (II) "dri" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. >>>> (II) "dri2" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. >>>> (II) LoadModule: "extmod" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so >>>> (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 >>>> Module class: X.Org Server Extension >>>> ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 >>>> (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER >>>> (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension >>>> (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA >>>> (II) Loading extension DPMS >>>> (II) Loading extension XVideo >>>> (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation >>>> (II) Loading extension X-Resource >>>> (II) LoadModule: "record" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so >>>> (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.13.0 >>>> Module class: X.Org Server Extension >>>> ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 >>>> (II) Loading extension RECORD >>>> (II) LoadModule: "dbe" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so >>>> (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 >>>> Module class: X.Org Server Extension >>>> ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 >>>> (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER >>>> (II) LoadModule: "glx" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so >>>> (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 >>>> ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 >>>> (==) AIGLX disabled >>>> (II) Loading extension GLX >>>> (II) LoadModule: "dri" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so >>>> (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 >>>> ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 >>>> (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI >>>> (II) LoadModule: "dri2" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so >>>> (II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.1.0 >>>> ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 >>>> (II) Loading extension DRI2 >>>> (II) LoadModule: "radeon" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so >>>> (II) Module radeon: vendor="X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 6.14.3 >>>> Module class: X.Org Video Driver >>>> ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 >>>> (II) LoadModule: "mouse" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so >>>> (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.7.1 >>>> Module class: X.Org XInput Driver >>>> ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0 >>>> (II) LoadModule: "kbd" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so >>>> (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.6.1 >>>> Module class: X.Org XInput Driver >>>> ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0 >>>> (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility X600 (M24) 3150 (PCIE), ATI FireMV 2400 (PCI), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility X300 (M24) 3152 (PCIE), >>>> ATI FireGL M24 GL 3154 (PCIE), ATI FireMV 2400 3155 (PCI), >>>> ATI Radeon X600 (RV380) 3E50 (PCIE), >>>> ATI FireGL V3200 (RV380) 3E54 (PCIE), ATI Radeon IGP320 (A3) 4136, >>>> ATI Radeon IGP330/340/350 (A4) 4137, ATI Radeon 9500 AD (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon 9500 AE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600TX AF (AGP), >>>> ATI FireGL Z1 AG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800SE AH (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon 9800 AI (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800 AJ (AGP), >>>> ATI FireGL X2 AK (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600 AP (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon 9600SE AQ (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600XT AR (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon 9600 AS (AGP), ATI FireGL T2 AT (AGP), ATI Radeon 9650, >>>> ATI FireGL RV360 AV (AGP), ATI Radeon 7000 IGP (A4+) 4237, >>>> ATI Radeon 8500 AIW BB (AGP), ATI Radeon IGP320M (U1) 4336, >>>> ATI Radeon IGP330M/340M/350M (U2) 4337, >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility 7000 IGP 4437, ATI Radeon 9000/PRO If (AGP/PCI), >>>> ATI Radeon 9000 Ig (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JH (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon X800PRO (R420) JI (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon X800SE (R420) JJ (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JK (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JL (AGP), ATI FireGL X3 (R420) JM (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility 9800 (M18) JN (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon X800 SE (R420) (AGP), ATI Radeon X800XT (R420) JP (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon X800 VE (R420) JT (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 (R480) (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon X850 XT (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 SE (R480) (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon X850 PRO (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 XT PE (R480) (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility M7 LW (AGP), >>>> ATI Mobility FireGL 7800 M7 LX (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LZ (AGP), >>>> ATI FireGL Mobility 9000 (M9) Ld (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lg (AGP), ATI Radeon 9700 Pro ND (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon 9700/9500Pro NE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600TX NF (AGP), >>>> ATI FireGL X1 NG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800PRO NH (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon 9800 NI (AGP), ATI FireGL X2 NK (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon 9800XT NJ (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility 9600/9700 (M10/M11) NP (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NQ (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M11) NR (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NS (AGP), >>>> ATI FireGL Mobility T2 (M10) NT (AGP), >>>> ATI FireGL Mobility T2e (M11) NV (AGP), ATI Radeon QD (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP), >>>> ATI FireGL 8700/8800 QH (AGP), ATI Radeon 8500 QL (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon 9100 QM (AGP), ATI Radeon 7500 QW (AGP/PCI), >>>> ATI Radeon 7500 QX (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon VE/7000 QY (AGP/PCI), >>>> ATI Radeon VE/7000 QZ (AGP/PCI), ATI ES1000 515E (PCI), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility X300 (M22) 5460 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility X600 SE (M24C) 5462 (PCIE), >>>> ATI FireGL M22 GL 5464 (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 (R423) UH (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X800PRO (R423) UI (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X800LE (R423) UJ (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X800SE (R423) UK (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X800 XTP (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 XL (R430) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X800 SE (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 (R430) (PCIE), >>>> ATI FireGL V7100 (R423) (PCIE), ATI FireGL V5100 (R423) UQ (PCIE), >>>> ATI FireGL unknown (R423) UR (PCIE), >>>> ATI FireGL unknown (R423) UT (PCIE), >>>> ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 (M26) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 (M26) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X700 XL (M26) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X550XTX 5657 (PCIE), ATI Radeon 9100 IGP (A5) 5834, >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility 9100 IGP (U3) 5835, >>>> ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5954 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE), ATI Radeon 9250 5960 (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon 9200 5961 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9200 5962 (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon 9200SE 5964 (AGP), ATI FireMV 2200 (PCI), >>>> ATI ES1000 5969 (PCI), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5974 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5975 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A41 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A42 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A61 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A62 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X300 (RV370) 5B60 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X600 (RV370) 5B62 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X550 (RV370) 5B63 (PCIE), >>>> ATI FireGL V3100 (RV370) 5B64 (PCIE), >>>> ATI FireMV 2200 PCIE (RV370) 5B65 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C61 (AGP), >>>> ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C63 (AGP), >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X800 XT (M28) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Mobility FireGL V5100 (M28) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X800 (M28) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 5D4C (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X850 XT PE (R480) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X850 SE (R480) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 PRO (R480) (PCIE), >>>> ATI unknown Radeon / FireGL (R480) 5D50 (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X850 XT (R480) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X800XT (R423) 5D57 (PCIE), >>>> ATI FireGL V5000 (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 XT (RV410) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X700 PRO (RV410) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X700 SE (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 (RV410) (PCIE), >>>> ATI Radeon X700 SE (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X1800, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X1800 XT, ATI Mobility Radeon X1800, >>>> ATI Mobility FireGL V7200, ATI FireGL V7200, ATI FireGL V5300, >>>> ATI Mobility FireGL V7100, ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800, >>>> ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800, >>>> ATI FireGL V7300, ATI FireGL V7350, ATI Radeon X1600, ATI RV505, >>>> ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Radeon X1550, ATI M54-GL, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X1400, ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, >>>> ATI Radeon X1550 64-bit, ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1300, >>>> ATI RV505, ATI RV505, ATI FireGL V3300, ATI FireGL V3350, >>>> ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1550 64-bit, ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, >>>> ATI Radeon X1600, ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Mobility Radeon X1450, >>>> ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Mobility Radeon X2300, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X2300, ATI Mobility Radeon X1350, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X1350, ATI Mobility Radeon X1450, >>>> ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1550, ATI Mobility Radeon X1350, >>>> ATI FireMV 2250, ATI Radeon X1550 64-bit, ATI Radeon X1600, >>>> ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1600, ATI Radeon X1600, >>>> ATI Mobility FireGL V5200, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600, >>>> ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1600, >>>> ATI Radeon X1300 XT/X1600 Pro, ATI FireGL V3400, >>>> ATI Mobility FireGL V5250, ATI Mobility Radeon X1700, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X1700 XT, ATI FireGL V5200, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon X1700, ATI Radeon X2300HD, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2300, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2300, >>>> ATI Radeon X1950, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1950, >>>> ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, >>>> ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, >>>> ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, >>>> ATI AMD Stream Processor, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1950, >>>> ATI RV560, ATI RV560, ATI Mobility Radeon X1900, ATI RV560, >>>> ATI Radeon X1950 GT, ATI RV570, ATI RV570, ATI FireGL V7400, >>>> ATI RV560, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI RV560, >>>> ATI Radeon 9100 PRO IGP 7834, ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 IGP 7835, >>>> ATI Radeon X1200, ATI Radeon X1200, ATI Radeon X1200, >>>> ATI Radeon X1200, ATI Radeon X1200, ATI RS740, ATI RS740M, ATI RS740, >>>> ATI RS740M, ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2900 Pro, ATI Radeon HD 2900 GT, >>>> ATI FireGL V8650, ATI FireGL V8600, ATI FireGL V7600, >>>> ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4870 x2, >>>> ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4850 x2, >>>> ATI FirePro V8750 (FireGL), ATI FirePro V7760 (FireGL), >>>> ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4850, ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4850 X2, >>>> ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI FirePro RV770, AMD FireStream 9270, >>>> AMD FireStream 9250, ATI FirePro V8700 (FireGL), >>>> ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4870, ATI Mobility RADEON M98, >>>> ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4870, ATI Radeon 4800 Series, >>>> ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI FirePro M7750, ATI M98, ATI M98, ATI M98, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650, ATI Radeon RV730 (AGP), >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670, ATI FirePro M5750, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670, ATI Radeon RV730 (AGP), >>>> ATI RV730XT [Radeon HD 4670], ATI RADEON E4600, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series, ATI RV730 PRO [Radeon HD 4650], >>>> ATI FirePro V7750 (FireGL), ATI FirePro V5700 (FireGL), >>>> ATI FirePro V3750 (FireGL), ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4830, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4850, ATI FirePro M7740, ATI RV740, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 4770, ATI Radeon HD 4700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4770, >>>> ATI FirePro M5750, ATI RV610, ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro, ATI Radeon HD 2400 PRO AGP, ATI FireGL V4000, >>>> ATI RV610, ATI Radeon HD 2350, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400 XT, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400, ATI RADEON E2400, ATI RV610, >>>> ATI FireMV 2260, ATI RV670, ATI Radeon HD3870, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850, ATI Radeon HD3850, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850 X2, ATI RV670, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2, >>>> ATI Radeon HD3870 X2, ATI FireGL V7700, ATI Radeon HD3850, >>>> ATI Radeon HD3690, AMD Firestream 9170, ATI Radeon HD 4550, >>>> ATI Radeon RV710, ATI Radeon RV710, ATI Radeon RV710, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 4350, ATI Mobility Radeon 4300 Series, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon 4500 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon 4500 Series, >>>> ATI FirePro RG220, ATI Mobility Radeon 4330, ATI RV630, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT AGP, ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro AGP, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro, ATI Gemini RV630, >>>> ATI Gemini Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT, ATI FireGL V5600, >>>> ATI FireGL V3600, ATI Radeon HD 2600 LE, >>>> ATI Mobility FireGL Graphics Processor, ATI Radeon HD 3470, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3430, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 3450, ATI Radeon HD 3450, ATI Radeon HD 3430, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 3450, ATI FirePro V3700, ATI FireMV 2450, >>>> ATI FireMV 2260, ATI FireMV 2260, ATI Radeon HD 3600 Series, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 3650 AGP, ATI Radeon HD 3600 PRO, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 3600 XT, ATI Radeon HD 3600 PRO, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3670, >>>> ATI Mobility FireGL V5700, ATI Mobility FireGL V5725, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics, ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics, ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 3300 Graphics, ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics, >>>> ATI Radeon 3000 Graphics, SUMO, SUMO, SUMO2, SUMO2, SUMO2, SUMO2, >>>> SUMO, SUMO, SUMO, SUMO, SUMO, ATI Radeon HD 4200, ATI Radeon 4100, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200, ATI Mobility Radeon 4100, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 4290, ATI Radeon HD 4250, AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics, >>>> AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics, AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics, >>>> AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics, AMD Radeon HD 6300 Series Graphics, >>>> AMD Radeon HD 6200 Series Graphics, CYPRESS, >>>> ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, >>>> ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, >>>> ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, AMD Firestream 9370, >>>> AMD Firestream 9350, ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series, >>>> ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, >>>> ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 6700 Series, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 6700 Series, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5570, >>>> ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, >>>> ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, ATI Radeon HD 5670, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 5570, ATI Radeon HD 5500 Series, REDWOOD, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon Graphics, >>>> ATI Mobility Radeon Graphics, CEDAR, >>>> ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, >>>> ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, ATI FirePro 2270, CEDAR, >>>> ATI Radeon HD 5450, CEDAR, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, >>>> CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series, >>>> AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, >>>> AMD Radeon HD 6900M Series, Mobility Radeon HD 6000 Series, BARTS, >>>> BARTS, Mobility Radeon HD 6000 Series, >>>> Mobility Radeon HD 6000 Series, BARTS, BARTS, BARTS, BARTS, >>>> AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series, AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series, >>>> AMD Radeon HD 6700 Series, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, >>>> TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, CAICOS, >>>> CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, >>>> CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS >>>> (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01@00:05:0 >>>> (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support >>>> (II) RADEON(0): TOTO SAYS 00000000d0200000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): MMIO registers at 0x00000000d0200000: size 64KB >>>> (II) RADEON(0): PCI bus 1 card 5 func 0 >>>> (==) RADEON(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Pixel depth = 24 bits stored in 4 bytes (32 bpp pixmaps) >>>> (==) RADEON(0): Default visual is TrueColor >>>> (**) RADEON(0): Option "BusType" "PCIE" >>>> (**) RADEON(0): Option "RenderAccel" "on" >>>> (**) RADEON(0): Option "AccelMethod" "xaa" >>>> (**) RADEON(0): Option "DRI" "on" >>>> (**) RADEON(0): Option "Int10" "on" >>>> (**) RADEON(0): Option "DynamicPM" "on" >>>> (II) Loading sub module "vgahw" >>>> (II) LoadModule: "vgahw" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libvgahw.so >>>> (II) Module vgahw: vendor="X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 0.1.0 >>>> ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp->IOBase is 0x03d0, hwp->PIOOffset is 0x0000 >>>> (==) RADEON(0): RGB weight 888 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Using 8 bits per RGB (8 bit DAC) >>>> (--) RADEON(0): Chipset: "ATI Radeon X1200" (ChipID = 0x791f) >>>> (--) RADEON(0): Linear framebuffer at 0x00000000c0000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): PCI card detected >>>> (**) RADEON(0): Forced into PCI mode >>>> (II) Loading sub module "int10" >>>> (II) LoadModule: "int10" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libint10.so >>>> (II) Module int10: vendor="X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 >>>> ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): initializing int10 >>>> (**) RADEON(0): Option "int10" "on" >>>> (==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x20000) was already clear >>>> (==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xc0000,0x40000) was already clear >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 >>>> (==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear >>>> (II) RADEON(0): ATOM BIOS detected >>>> (II) RADEON(0): ATOM BIOS Rom: >>>> SubsystemVendorID: 0x1002 SubsystemID: 0x791f >>>> IOBaseAddress: 0x4000 >>>> Filename: br23883.bin >>>> BIOS Bootup Message: >>>> ATI Radeon Xpress ?1250? for HP_TT >>>> >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Framebuffer space used by Firmware (kb): 20 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Start of VRAM area used by Firmware: 0x7ffb000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): AtomBIOS requests 20kB of VRAM scratch space >>>> (II) RADEON(0): AtomBIOS VRAM scratch base: 0x7ffb000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Cannot get VRAM scratch space. Allocating in main memory instead >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Default Engine Clock: 400000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Default Memory Clock: 200000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Maximum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Output: 1200000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Minimum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Output: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Maximum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Input: 13500 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Minimum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Input: 1000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Maximum Pixel Clock: 400000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Reference Clock: 14320 >>>> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 >>>> drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) >>>> drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:01:05.0 >>>> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 >>>> drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) >>>> drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 10 >>>> drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:01:05.0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [dri] Found DRI library version 1.3.0 and kernel module version 1.31.0 >>>> (==) RADEON(0): Page Flipping disabled on r5xx and newer chips. >>>> >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Will try to use DMA for Xv image transfers >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Generation 2 PCI interface, using max accessible memory >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Detected total video RAM=131072K, accessible=131072K (PCI BAR=131072K) >>>> (--) RADEON(0): Mapped VideoRAM: 131072 kByte (128 bit DDR SDRAM) >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Color tiling enabled by default >>>> (II) Loading sub module "ddc" >>>> (II) LoadModule: "ddc" >>>> (II) Module "ddc" already built-in >>>> (II) Loading sub module "i2c" >>>> (II) LoadModule: "i2c" >>>> (II) Module "i2c" already built-in >>>> (II) RADEON(0): PLL parameters: rf=1432 rd=12 min=80000 max=120000; xclk=40000 >>>> (WW) RADEON(0): LVDS Info: >>>> XRes: 1280, YRes: 800, DotClock: 71000 >>>> HBlank: 160, HOverPlus: 48, HSyncWidth: 32 >>>> VBlank: 23, VOverPlus: 3, VSyncWidth: 6 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Skipping TV-Out >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Skipping Component Video >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 using monitor section Monitor0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): I2C bus "VGA-0" initialized. >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS has no monitor section >>>> (II) RADEON(0): I2C bus "LVDS" initialized. >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Port0: >>>> XRANDR name: VGA-0 >>>> Connector: VGA >>>> CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1 >>>> DDC reg: 0x7e50 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Port1: >>>> XRANDR name: LVDS >>>> Connector: LVDS >>>> LCD1: INTERNAL_LVTM1 >>>> DDC reg: 0x7e40 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "VGA-0:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. >>>> Dac detection success >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Output: VGA-0, Detected Monitor Type: 0 >>>> finished output detect: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "LVDS:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Output: LVDS, Detected Monitor Type: 2 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): EDID data from the display on output: LVDS ---------------------- >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer: LPL Model: d600 Serial#: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Year: 2006 Week: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): EDID Version: 1.3 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Digital Display Input >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 33 vert.: 21 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Gamma: 2.20 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): No DPMS capabilities specified >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode >>>> (II) RADEON(0): redX: 0.600 redY: 0.351 greenX: 0.324 greenY: 0.554 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): blueX: 0.153 blueY: 0.145 whiteX: 0.312 whiteY: 0.328 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Supported detailed timing: >>>> (II) RADEON(0): clock: 71.0 MHz Image Size: 331 x 207 mm >>>> (II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1280 h_sync: 1328 h_sync_end 1360 h_blank_end 1440 h_border: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): v_active: 800 v_sync: 803 v_sync_end 809 v_blanking: 823 v_border: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): LGPhilipsLCD >>>> (II) RADEON(0): LP154WX4-TLA1 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): EDID (in hex): >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 00ffffffffffff00320c00d600000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 00100103802115780ab3409959538d27 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 25505400000001010101010101010101 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 010101010101bc1b00a0502017303020 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 36004bcf100000190000000000000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 00000000000000000000000000fe004c >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 475068696c6970734c43440a000000fe >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 004c503135345758342d544c4131004d >>>> finished output detect: 1 >>>> finished all detect >>>> Dac detection success >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Output: VGA-0, Detected Monitor Type: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Output: LVDS, Detected Monitor Type: 2 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): EDID data from the display on output: LVDS ---------------------- >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer: LPL Model: d600 Serial#: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Year: 2006 Week: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): EDID Version: 1.3 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Digital Display Input >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 33 vert.: 21 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Gamma: 2.20 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): No DPMS capabilities specified >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode >>>> (II) RADEON(0): redX: 0.600 redY: 0.351 greenX: 0.324 greenY: 0.554 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): blueX: 0.153 blueY: 0.145 whiteX: 0.312 whiteY: 0.328 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Supported detailed timing: >>>> (II) RADEON(0): clock: 71.0 MHz Image Size: 331 x 207 mm >>>> (II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1280 h_sync: 1328 h_sync_end 1360 h_blank_end 1440 h_border: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): v_active: 800 v_sync: 803 v_sync_end 809 v_blanking: 823 v_border: 0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): LGPhilipsLCD >>>> (II) RADEON(0): LP154WX4-TLA1 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): EDID (in hex): >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 00ffffffffffff00320c00d600000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 00100103802115780ab3409959538d27 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 25505400000001010101010101010101 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 010101010101bc1b00a0502017303020 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 36004bcf100000190000000000000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 00000000000000000000000000fe004c >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 475068696c6970734c43440a000000fe >>>> (II) RADEON(0): 004c503135345758342d544c4131004d >>>> (II) RADEON(0): EDID vendor "LPL", prod id 54784 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 disconnected >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS connected >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Using exact sizes for initial modes >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS using initial mode 1280x800 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Using default gamma of (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) unless otherwise stated. >>>> (==) RADEON(0): DPI set to (96, 96) >>>> (II) Loading sub module "fb" >>>> (II) LoadModule: "fb" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so >>>> (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 >>>> ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 >>>> (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" >>>> (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" >>>> (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in >>>> (**) RADEON(0): Using XAA acceleration architecture >>>> (II) Loading sub module "xaa" >>>> (II) LoadModule: "xaa" >>>> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libxaa.so >>>> (II) Module xaa: vendor="X.Org Foundation" >>>> compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.2.1 >>>> ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 >>>> (==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear >>>> (!!) RADEON(0): MergedFB support has been removed and replaced with xrandr 1.2 support >>>> (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp >>>> (II) RADEON(0): RADEONScreenInit c0000000 0 0 >>>> (==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear >>>> Output LCD1 disable success >>>> Blank CRTC 0 success >>>> Disable CRTC 0 success >>>> Blank CRTC 1 success >>>> Disable CRTC 1 success >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Dynamic Power Management Enabled >>>> (==) RADEON(0): Using 24 bit depth buffer >>>> (II) RADEON(0): RADEONInitMemoryMap() : >>>> (II) RADEON(0): mem_size : 0x08000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0xbfffb800 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0x003f0000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Depth moves disabled by default >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Using 32 MB GART aperture >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Using 1 MB for the ring buffer >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Using 2 MB for vertex/indirect buffers >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Using 29 MB for GART textures >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Memory manager initialized to (0,0) (1280,8191) >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Reserved area from (0,1280) to (1280,1282) >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1280 x 6909 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Will use front buffer at offset 0x0 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Will use back buffer at offset 0x1978000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Will use depth buffer at offset 0x1fb8000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Will use 92160 kb for textures at offset 0x25f8000 >>>> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 >>>> drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) >>>> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 >>>> drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) >>>> drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:01:05.0 >>>> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 >>>> drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) >>>> drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 10 >>>> drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:01:05.0 >>>> (II) [drm] DRM interface version 1.2 >>>> (II) [drm] DRM open master succeeded. >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Using the DRM lock SAREA also for drawables. >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0x40000000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel >>>> (II) RADEON(0): X context handle = 0x1 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] 32768 kB allocated with handle 0xcff65000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] ring handle = 0x00000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring mapped at 0x804c1f000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring contents 0x00000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] ring read ptr handle = 0x00000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring read ptr mapped at 0x80090e000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Ring read ptr contents 0x00000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] vertex/indirect buffers handle = 0x00000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Vertex/indirect buffers mapped at 0x80ce00000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] Vertex/indirect buffers contents 0x00000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] GART texture map handle = 0x00000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [pci] GART Texture map mapped at 0x80d094000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [drm] register handle = 0x00000000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [dri] Visual configs initialized >>>> (II) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMemMapRegisters() : >>>> (II) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0xbfffb800 0xbfffb800 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0x003f0000 >>>> (==) RADEON(0): Backing store disabled >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [DRI] installation complete >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Added 32 65536 byte vertex/indirect buffers >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Mapped 32 vertex/indirect buffers >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [drm] dma control initialized, using IRQ 256 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Initialized kernel GART heap manager, 29884416 >>>> (WW) RADEON(0): DRI init changed memory map, adjusting ... >>>> (WW) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION was: 0xbfffb800 is: 0xbfffb800 >>>> (WW) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION was: 0x003f0000 is: 0xc1ffc000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMemMapRegisters() : >>>> (II) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0xbfffb800 0xbfffb800 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0xc1ffc000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering enabled >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration disabled >>>> (II) RADEON(0): num quad-pipes is 1 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) >>>> Screen to screen bit blits >>>> Solid filled rectangles >>>> 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles >>>> Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion >>>> Solid Lines >>>> Scanline Image Writes >>>> Setting up tile and stipple cache: >>>> 32 128x128 slots >>>> 32 256x256 slots >>>> 16 512x512 slots >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled >>>> (==) RADEON(0): DPMS enabled >>>> (==) RADEON(0): Silken mouse enabled >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Will use 32 kb for hardware cursor 0 at offset 0x00643000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Will use 32 kb for hardware cursor 1 at offset 0x00648000 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1280 x 6901 >>>> (II) RADEON(0): Set up textured video >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [XvMC] Associated with Radeon Textured Video. >>>> (II) RADEON(0): [XvMC] Extension initialized. >>>> Output CRT1 disable success >>>> Output LCD1 disable success >>>> Blank CRTC 0 success >>>> Disable CRTC 0 success >>>> Blank CRTC 1 success >>>> Disable CRTC 1 success >>>> >>>> >>>> I tried running Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new >>>> >>>> I get black screen, from which I can't recover. >>>> CTRL+ALT+F<...> does nothing, >>>> CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE does nothing. >>>> >>>> And I can't kill Xorg: >>>> >>>> # ps ax |grep Xorg >>>> 1056 0 RE+ 5:54.16 Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new -retro >>>> 1112 1 RL+ 0:00.02 grep Xorg >>>> # kill -9 1056 >>>> # ps ax |grep Xorg >>>> 1056 0 RE+ 6:01.24 Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new -retro >>>> 1114 1 S+ 0:00.02 grep Xorg >>>> # >>>> >>>> The only way I can recover is reboot. >>>> >>>> Please advise. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Anton Shterenlikht >>>> Room 2.6, Queen's Building >>>> Mech Eng Dept >>>> Bristol University >>>> University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK >>>> Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 >>>> Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Anton Shterenlikht >> Room 2.6, Queen's Building >> Mech Eng Dept >> Bristol University >> University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK >> Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 >> Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 13:26:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7F81065B3A for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:26:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 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(PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c51sm64339845eei.12.2012.06.12.06.26.47 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 06:26:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FD74396.4090202@my.gd> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 15:26:46 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlyjOJOhfrpGyf0Di8o31QV1fz8c5r3rh8K4JQeTdaU+kT2kKoWtY/Q6mKp5HsLO9V4aaY6 Cc: Subject: rc.conf ifconfig ipv6 address fails at boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:26:50 -0000 Hello questions, I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong here. Trying to get a static IPv6 on a server at boot time from rc.conf, and that fails. Notice I haven't set ipv6_network_interfaces , so it defaults to "auto". ===== ipv6_enable="YES" ipv6_defaultrouter="2a01:e35:2f1b:e2a0::1" # VLAN 99 = WAN / CISCO INTERCONNECTION ifconfig_vlan99="vlan 99 vlandev re0 up" ipv4_addrs_vlan99="192.168.99.3/24" ipv6_addrs_vlan99="2a01:e35:2f1b:e2a0::dead:beef/64" ===== I resorted to adding the IPv6 and default gateway via a @reboot line in /etc/crontab , but this is really not right... The machine is running 8.3-PRERELEASE from february. Should I instead try the following ? ifconfig_vlan99="inet 192.168.99.3/24 vlan 99 vlandev re0 up" ipv6_ifconfig_vlan99="2a01:e35:2f1b:e2a0::dead:beef/64" I'm not really at liberty to reboot the server to test during work time ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 13:29:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469AA1065694 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA31E8FC16 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:29:12 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Cc:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=IDxxTxQVlbiJl+VwgCPCoPaAxqPVzctkzTVnfTAj7vY=; b=nT2LMViFos9UCxLhRbwwxX9BWcvg+DqRHb4quxFtXh0WH7/JuCpgZZLq5yT8g88WFKdTMO7supf8GP2RwCSJvyk5Rn2KOyeXJHw2QbZATRQt+dA2JLNQd1zCmXDpMajy; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SeR9g-0006ix-DW; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:29:12 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1339507742-26372-26371/5/68; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:29:02 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201206120506.q5C56L2H026673@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:29:02 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <201206120506.q5C56L2H026673@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.64 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:29:13 -0000 On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:06:21 -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote: > Comment: using a leading zero on the numeric fields is a BAD IDEA(tm) -- > you > are *strongly* encocuraged to remove them. Yes, that means numbers will > not > be column aligned, but it is a small price to pay to avoid the > hair-tearing > that =will= ensue when using it bites you. Any other info on this? I've never heard of this before and I've never seen an issue using leading zeroes on the minutes value. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 14:36:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7F5106566B for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:36:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23AC8FC0C for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.48]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7EBA713DE for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9183 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2012 14:36:39 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 2894, pid: 30655, t: 0.1479s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 12 Jun 2012 14:36:39 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 0B2A033C24; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:36:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Mark Felder References: <201206120506.q5C56L2H026673@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:36:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Mark Felder's message of "Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:29:02 -0500") Message-ID: <443960ppfu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:36:41 -0000 Mark Felder writes: > On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:06:21 -0500, Robert Bonomi > wrote: > >> Comment: using a leading zero on the numeric fields is a BAD IDEA(tm) -- >> you >> are *strongly* encocuraged to remove them. Yes, that means numbers >> will not >> be column aligned, but it is a small price to pay to avoid the >> hair-tearing >> that =will= ensue when using it bites you. > > Any other info on this? I've never heard of this before and I've never > seen an issue using leading zeroes on the minutes value. I don't have ready access to source at the moment, but I would expect (like the normal C I/O functions) it will be interpreted as octal. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 14:48:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2721065670 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:48:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B584E8FC22 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:48:47 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=7UVeQEVMNzuxK8Xp0xJzylZYYvItEeeACPdC0CSSUrs=; b=BNIkoiTckntuwL0y1SCZapyPLW/R5CI/X9vSZ0SQXwhMcN6IfmBFiiDFXqE6l8zphfChTFB7cmlRz1CL0A3FrpbVPUU/eoaxz1WeymoQAmxP7mxFyiuVOrV7hruoTlZv; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SeSOg-00096X-AX for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:48:47 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1339512516-26372-26371/5/69; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:48:36 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <201206120506.q5C56L2H026673@mail.r-bonomi.com> <443960ppfu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:48:36 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <443960ppfu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.64 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:48:48 -0000 On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:36:37 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > I don't have ready access to source at the moment, but I would expect > (like the normal C I/O functions) it will be interpreted as octal. Suppose we could always ask Paul Vixie :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 14:56:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0900A106564A for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:56:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE338FC14 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SeSVe-00062u-E7; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 15:55:54 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SeSVd-0001Wx-QO; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 15:55:54 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5CEtrrn038953; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 15:55:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q5CEtrEE038952; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 15:55:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 15:55:53 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Hans Ottevanger Message-ID: <20120612145553.GA38503@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Hans Ottevanger , Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Subhro Sankha Kar References: <20120611113135.GA99238@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20120612081306.GA25637@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20120612082456.GA25893@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4FD7325D.2000506@beastielabs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FD7325D.2000506@beastielabs.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Subhro Sankha Kar Subject: Re: can't kill -9 Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:56:02 -0000 On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 02:13:17PM +0200, Hans Ottevanger wrote: > On 06/12/12 10:24, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 09:13:06AM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >>On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:07:06AM +0530, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote: > >>>Hello > >>> > >>>What happens if you run without a xorg.conf? Xorg has become pretty good > >>>at guessing correct settings these days. > >>> > >> > >>No change. > >>I removed /etc/X11/xorg.conf completely. > > > >Anyway, I can understand my X setup is fucked, no problem. > > > >What worries me more is the the fact that a process ignores > >kill -9. Doesn't it indicate a problem with the OS? > >I think potentially this is a security vulnerability. > > > > I had a similar issue with my desktop system a while ago, also using a > Radeon adaptor. In my case the system ended up with a frozen image or > black screen and was only accessible remotely. It appeared that the X > server took 100% of a CPU and was looping in the driver in kernel space > and thus unkillable. If a remember well a PCIE register seemed to be > inaccessible after returning from the screen saver and the driver kept > looping on this. > > I finally worked around the problem by removing the (barely documented) > option DynamicPM from my xorg.conf. This could have consequences for > power saving on a laptop however, but it could be worth trying. > > Kind regards, > > Hans Thank you for the explanation. I my case Option "DRI" "off" helped. With DRI off I get X working (nearly) as expected. However, I'm now thinking that DRI not working is perhaps a bug? I'm using xf86-video-ati-6.14.3_1 with Driver "radeon" VendorName "Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI" BoardName "RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]" Maybe I should ask in x11@? -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 17:07:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30564106566B for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:07:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24A38FC0C for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-177.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.177]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41A228BDE; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:06:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q5CH6TgH004775; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:06:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:06:29 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Mark Felder Message-Id: <20120612190629.6a45cb11.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <201206120506.q5C56L2H026673@mail.r-bonomi.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:07:12 -0000 On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:29:02 -0500, Mark Felder wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:06:21 -0500, Robert Bonomi > wrote: > > > Comment: using a leading zero on the numeric fields is a BAD IDEA(tm) -- > > you > > are *strongly* encocuraged to remove them. Yes, that means numbers will > > not > > be column aligned, but it is a small price to pay to avoid the > > hair-tearing > > that =will= ensue when using it bites you. > > Any other info on this? I've never heard of this before and I've never > seen an issue using leading zeroes on the minutes value. There are some "specific interpretations" that _may_ be interpreted according to the C rules, e. g. prefix 0x- for hexadecimal or 08- for octal notation. For example, 083 != 83, just as 0x83 != 83. As it has been mentioned, spaces also have a significant meaning in crontabs, so they cannot be used everywhere to align data columns. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 17:21:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120F31065672 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:21:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists.dan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C688FC14 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:21:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhgm50 with SMTP id m50so4190844yhg.13 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:21:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gxF/OJa2gJntRyKl2gWa4lYBjbIk+bhvwZPvuO5qwuM=; b=vA+kBOXsrjlQLmI/tA6OWLu7q+BR6Cem5VnVCMZ1389oIKQQ5DuIwILhnwsNodZyp1 Dm4GXKJdrR9Ox681CWfYzG3WkKth6A9DWNEVUKMztFfoKmV3N2sDX12y42HK1slyY5ob i+KnqA/oD3NcltEmQHPMOA3VflocREEVI6oGYgBj3d39MbLXGvDeLUmybWgOW4dP132a Z/vLxAkWw45ZpECzSAa9X9ds2qS11EcE2ck2fIs9bxCsQNbq7v/y10YaoKwMPWHvkSYB 4lr7Ebk0HnkeVZH9VD3OnSwFT9Y5/2DhDzv9SVu3WpfmzP34L6zzUy5Cb/OBvqH8cwmM lSaA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.158.168 with SMTP id wv8mr9018245igb.11.1339521691824; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.82.8 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:21:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120612190629.6a45cb11.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <201206120506.q5C56L2H026673@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120612190629.6a45cb11.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:21:31 -0500 Message-ID: From: Dan Lists To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:21:33 -0000 On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:29:02 -0500, Mark Felder wrote: >> On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:06:21 -0500, Robert Bonomi >> wrote: >> >> > Comment: using a leading zero on the numeric fields is a BAD IDEA(tm) = -- >> > you >> > are *strongly* encocuraged to remove them. =A0Yes, that means numbers = will >> > not >> > be column aligned, but it is a small price to pay to avoid the >> > hair-tearing >> > that =3Dwill=3D ensue when using it bites you. >> >> Any other info on this? I've never heard of this before and I've never >> seen an issue using leading zeroes on the minutes value. > > There are some "specific interpretations" that _may_ be > interpreted according to the C rules, e. g. prefix 0x- > for hexadecimal or 08- for octal notation. For example, > 083 !=3D 83, just as 0x83 !=3D 83. As it has been mentioned, > spaces also have a significant meaning in crontabs, so > they cannot be used everywhere to align data columns. > The syntax of his crontab file is correct. Vixie cron does care about leading spaces, tabs, extra spaces, or leading zeros. Earlier versions of cron are much pickier about the crontab file. The cron logs show that it is starting his jobs at the correct times. It is far more likely that there is a problem with the scripts. A very common cause of problems with scripts run from cron is that they do not inherit your environment. Do the scripts run from the command line? If the do, then the problem is most likely something in your environment that the scripts need. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 17:29:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09EDA1065676 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:29:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hans@beastielabs.net) Received: from mail.beastielabs.net (beasties.demon.nl [82.161.3.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F10C8FC14 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from merom.hotsoft.nl (merom.hotsoft.nl [192.168.0.12]) by mail.beastielabs.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5CHTGnd050371; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:29:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hans@beastielabs.net) Message-ID: <4FD77C6C.8050702@beastielabs.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:29:16 +0200 From: Hans Ottevanger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120609 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anton Shterenlikht References: <20120611113135.GA99238@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20120612081306.GA25637@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20120612082456.GA25893@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4FD7325D.2000506@beastielabs.net> <20120612145553.GA38503@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20120612145553.GA38503@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Subhro Sankha Kar Subject: Re: can't kill -9 Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:29:37 -0000 On 06/12/12 16:55, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 02:13:17PM +0200, Hans Ottevanger wrote: >> On 06/12/12 10:24, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 09:13:06AM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >>>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:07:06AM +0530, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote: >>>>> Hello >>>>> >>>>> What happens if you run without a xorg.conf? Xorg has become pretty good >>>>> at guessing correct settings these days. >>>>> >>>> >>>> No change. >>>> I removed /etc/X11/xorg.conf completely. >>> >>> Anyway, I can understand my X setup is fucked, no problem. >>> >>> What worries me more is the the fact that a process ignores >>> kill -9. Doesn't it indicate a problem with the OS? >>> I think potentially this is a security vulnerability. >>> >> >> I had a similar issue with my desktop system a while ago, also using a >> Radeon adaptor. In my case the system ended up with a frozen image or >> black screen and was only accessible remotely. It appeared that the X >> server took 100% of a CPU and was looping in the driver in kernel space >> and thus unkillable. If a remember well a PCIE register seemed to be >> inaccessible after returning from the screen saver and the driver kept >> looping on this. >> >> I finally worked around the problem by removing the (barely documented) >> option DynamicPM from my xorg.conf. This could have consequences for >> power saving on a laptop however, but it could be worth trying. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Hans > > Thank you for the explanation. > I my case > > Option "DRI" "off" > > helped. With DRI off I get X working (nearly) as expected. > > However, I'm now thinking that DRI not > working is perhaps a bug? I'm using > xf86-video-ati-6.14.3_1 > with > > Driver "radeon" > VendorName "Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI" > BoardName "RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]" Here I have: Driver "radeon" VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)]" which actually is from an xorg.conf initially generated with "Xorg -configure" quite a while ago and only slightly edited afterwards. If I generate a new xorg.conf in this way it is virtually identical. As I understand from your original post you only got this problem after the png upgrade. Did Xorg work correctly before that time and did you have the same version of Xorg that you have now? The xorg-server-1.7.7_5,1 itself does not even depend on png, so you should be able to run Xorg without hanging kernel driver. You could do a forced rebuild of all X packages, also those that do depend on png. > > Maybe I should ask in x11@? > Not a bad idea at all, if you fully specify your problem (as you did in your original posting) and keep in mind that response times can be somewhat longer there. Kind regards, Hans From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 17:56:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA011065672 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:56:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCEB8FC15 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:56:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 76244E80550; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:56:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:56:40 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Robert Simmons Message-ID: <20120612175640.GA16926@thought.org> References: <20120611220232.GA29749@thought.org> <20120612003110.GA2394@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: any way to grab just One port to upgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:56:41 -0000 On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:34:44AM -0400, Robert Simmons wrote: > Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:34:44 -0400 > From: Robert Simmons > Subject: Re: any way to grab just One port to upgrade? > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 06:14:52PM -0400, Robert Simmons wrote: > >> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:14:52 -0400 > >> From: Robert Simmons > >> Subject: Re: any way to grab just One port to upgrade? > >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >> > >> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > >> > it is easy to cvs or cvsup ports and get a whole slew of ports in > >> > /usr/ports/distfiles, but too often, using portmaster [or another > >> > tool], I'll have only one of two ports that fail because they are > >> > either 1) broken, or 2) out of date.  is there any way I can grab > >> > just the ones that fail to compile?  I'm down to fewer than 50 > >> > ports. > >> > and wedged. > >> > >> You don't want to have /usr/ports out of sync.  You want to let > >> cvsup/portsnap do it's thing.  It's ideal to have the whole ports > >> collection up-to-date.  You may want to start with a clean slate and > >> cvsup/portsnap a fresh copy of the ports collection if you think that > >> something is amiss.  You can make a backup of /usr/ports for peace of > >> mind too. > >> > >> Also, can you please supply exactly what ports you're talking about > >> and what commands you are running to upgrade?  Error output for the > >> ports you say are broken would be another good thing to supply. > > > >        something in x11-toolkits/gtk20 blew up.  SOOOO. > >        lolngstoryshrt, I rebuilt from scratch [[ from the very > >        beginning ]] around 2 hours ago.  it Just died.  here are > >        the last 20 lines:: > > > > > > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/modules' > > Making all in demos > > gmake[2]: Entering directory > > `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/demos' > > /usr/local/bin/gdk-pixbuf-csource --raw --build-list            \ > >        apple_red  ./apple-red.png      \ > >                gnome_foot ./gnome-foot.png     \ > >        > test-inline-pixbufs.h                         \ > > || (rm -f test-inline-pixbufs.h && false) > > failed to load "./apple-red.png": Couldn't recognize the image file > > format for file './apple-red.png' > > gmake[2]: *** [test-inline-pixbufs.h] Error 1 > > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/demos' > > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6' > > gmake: *** [all] Error 2 > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. > > root@ethic:/tmp# > > > >        unless this port is known to be broken, I'll cvsup the ports > >        tree. > > That may not be necessary. I'm building gtk20 on a freshly installed > virtual machine with a freshly portsnap'd ports tree. I noticed the > following in the CVS logs: > CVS log for ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/Makefile > Revision 1.256: download - view: text, markup, annotated - select for diffs > Fri Jun 1 05:25:47 2012 UTC (10 days, 22 hours ago) by dinoex > Branches: MAIN > CVS tags: HEAD > Diff to: previous 1.255: preferred, colored > Changes since revision 1.255: +1 -1 lines > - update png to 1.5.10 > > Since png just changed, and the error you encountered is "failed to > load "./apple-red.png": Couldn't recognize the image file", I think > you may have run into a bug. I'll find out in the morning when the > build is done. thanks much++. I can't understand how a *pmg file could fail .. but then all it takes is one byte.... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Voice By Computer (for Universal Access): http:/www.thought.org/vbc The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 19:30:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0646E1065672 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryanrfrederick@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA878FC08 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:30:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhgm50 with SMTP id m50so4330036yhg.13 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:30:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2WCUGI3N1Ku7hsE/inSN8UutQ+nxQUIzieLQKHEuUmA=; b=wXDpKrjR77TgyOzJJY8ZBANNWpQivqAqjPvlxW87oHuenKPh/t8LRog0wT2kL14X/q XlptCkHU9PwWEXOzcOodzF8FH6KNMBRafVke4RAQ3U5Y44UzXwp/oGIrHvUIuCLsV9y1 RkmO5yJpupgGkUMHhbESM77nU3CBVOnqz8wgterW8dpQ46nv6vqdSxYQ+Nx2Yf71yLlF +LtZ/2XtZWvE+zYktMprkOjyIOzQp4V4bqOjZJS5G+psgb+1Fb90KDLv3uaw5VtmUvFJ t1gtXSHbnP1eWO3CL3N5FJJp+A67cGpVQ6oDq/sDfgyGwsqaQOTbhA64+BkSWdNkvaON 1AYw== Received: by 10.101.179.5 with SMTP id g5mr8860271anp.64.1339529403964; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2610:1d8:a03:1:d267:e5ff:fe44:3b30? ([2610:1d8:a03:1:d267:e5ff:fe44:3b30]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w6sm877310yhi.22.2012.06.12.12.30.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FD798B7.9000003@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:29:59 -0500 From: Ryan Frederick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111120 Icedove/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: freebsd-update Not Recognizing Updated Custom Kernel for 9.0-RELEASE-p3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:30:05 -0000 I have several FreeBSD 9 systems with custom compiled kernels. After using freebsd-update to go from 9.0-RELEASE-p2 to 9.0-RELEASE-p3 this morning I rebuilt the kernels. However after recompiling, installing, and rebooting with the custom kernels subsequent update checks using freebsd-update cron or freebsd-update fetch indicate that /boot/kernel/kernel (and only /boot/kernel/kernel) needs to be updated despite the custom kernel indicating 9.0-RELEASE-p3 in the output of uname -a. Ryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 19:32:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41491065673 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:32:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B6A8FC18 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1SeWok-0000x4-2X>; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:31:54 +0200 Received: from e178030048.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.30.48] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1SeWoj-0006DX-TA>; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:31:54 +0200 Message-ID: <4FD79922.50106@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:31:46 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig4CB35E7B33BF0E58D822048A" X-Originating-IP: 85.178.30.48 Subject: FreeBSD 10/9: Lexar 64GB JumpDrive USB 2.0 isn't recognized anymore! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:32:01 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig4CB35E7B33BF0E58D822048A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a Lexar 64GB USB 2.0 JumpDrive which worked in its "pristine" or "virgine" state very well. I used it yesterday, brand new, to fill it up with data. Some 30GB data got stored, I shut down the system (FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT/amd64) and this morning, I put the USB drive out of the USB port (computer off) and took it to the office. At the office, neither a FreeBSD10.0-CURRENT box nor a FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE box (both moth recent buildworld) where able to recognize the drive! While the USB drive was recognized as /dev/da1s1 before, this time I see in the console something like this: ugen7.6: at usbus7 umass1: on usb= us7 And nothing further anymore. On a Linux box (Suse) the USB drive can be read as well as on a Windows 7 box (I only read the content, I didn't write onto the USB drive on both systems). What is up? Since Windows and Linux can read/recognize the drive and FreeBSD not, I guess FreeBSD does have a problem with that kind of 64GB drive. I do not care of the data on the USB drive, so I'd like to GPART it. But without having a device node created, this is very unlikely to achieve. Any suggestions? Please CC my email, I'm not subscribing this specific list. 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This > means: Do not create any DOS partitions, just leave it > "empty" and let the installer perform the required tasks > of partitioning and formatting. > If you have XP on the other partition you will need to install FreeBSD using the "old style" MBR partitioning scheme. See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-pre.html You might want to consider sticking with FreeBSD 8.3 which I think only supports MPR partitioning. FreeBSD 9.0 supports both MBR and the newer GPT scheme so you would have to work out how to choose during the installation. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-pre.html Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 19:38:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C7F41065670 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:38:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8521D8FC17 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:38:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eabm6 with SMTP id m6so924543eab.13 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:38:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+OxRspuU/SBGXYodiZASN3KXnF0bQBE+AIephmcz/yc=; b=KnZ0IaExcm3D0Hy0qfsAazNJOHayAF11pzxjkP6MKuW/VTR9x3buZK7cSOaPGNzHwt 7T7+aTOhyHJIuHqdAyPmbCORcws2um03ORSJln6sWrf9e2yUAAgvCN6Hiqpjf0kHpkgR pO7LiKEzQAQFI/kK2Oo90xkWRFfJCvjRUvwGzLIWYDlNuA70Cz5jwrF4ZD39LxaXw/uF t6y3+V46ZrsmodakryryA4LynhvP90BmtpHrxj4QNwRB9l1h9J2xtNEpQwPrNQ084Z5C mdnaNfpKaCcwBYuuPpRThSvrvqXoKYyIA15MRp6ZGUkTCGBBv+RIiLdPT8NYRby8OvmS Klew== Received: by 10.14.189.7 with SMTP id b7mr6725970een.126.1339529907590; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (bl19-184-171.dsl.telepac.pt. [2.80.184.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m5sm67730107eeh.17.2012.06.12.12.38.24 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:38:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FD7A937.5030607@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:40:23 +0000 From: pwnedomina User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4C067C55-8320-4D12-A312-F8E2CC699B01@gmail.com> <4FD6A057.2070101@gmail.com> <20120612054431.b630e37a.freebsd@edvax.de> <7F5F7609-DB36-4E37-9196-92B797732C1D@gmail.com> <20120612102200.f5d0b981.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120612102200.f5d0b981.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: text format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:38:29 -0000 On 12-06-2012 08:22, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:06:07 +0100, i pwn wrote: >> on groff i've used this cmd to format the text >> groff -Tascii< normal.txt | sed 's/^/ /'$1> formatted.txt >> on nroff what would be the cmd? > Depending on your input data, I'd say the same command: > groff -Tascii< normal.txt> formatted.txt. But you need > to test this yourself with your input text format. > > See "man nroff" for details. > > For using roff macros, "man 7 mdoc" has a nice summary. > > > im only asking what cmd should i use to format an ascii text to be identical to that one, centered and aligned.. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 20:10:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3B11065670 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:10:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDDAB8FC0C for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q5CKB557038063; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 15:11:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 15:11:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201206122011.q5CKB557038063@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd@edvax.de, pwnedomina@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4FD7A937.5030607@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: text format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:10:33 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jun 12 14:39:59 2012 > Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:40:23 +0000 > From: pwnedomina > To: Polytropon > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: text format > > On 12-06-2012 08:22, Polytropon wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:06:07 +0100, i pwn wrote: > >> on groff i've used this cmd to format the text > >> groff -Tascii< normal.txt | sed 's/^/ /'$1> formatted.txt > >> on nroff what would be the cmd? > > Depending on your input data, I'd say the same command: > > groff -Tascii< normal.txt> formatted.txt. But you need > > to test this yourself with your input text format. > > > > See "man nroff" for details. > > > > For using roff macros, "man 7 mdoc" has a nice summary. > > > > > > > im only asking what cmd should i use to format an ascii text to be > identical to that one, centered and aligned.. There *ISN'T* any simple command-line tool that will do what you want, all "automatically". You have to take the 'plain text' ASCII file, and embed 'mark-up' codes in it that describe *what* the desired actions are, and =where= the are to be applied. Then, and -ONLY- then, can you run the 'marked up' file through a 'formatter' function to produce the "pretty-printed', centered/aligned, output. There are basically -two- approaches to this kind of problem. One approach is a 'word processor', where you _interactively_ select` the visual effects you desire, and where to apply then. This includes programs like MS-Word, WordPerfect, OpenOffice, etc. The other approach is a 'text formatter' -- less intuitive than a 'word processor', but much better for large, _structured_, documents. In this situation, you embed codes that identify 'logical' units/sub-divisions of the document, and provide a 'style' specification as to how those various types of units should be rendered. A command-line program then takes the 'marked up' text, and the 'style' specification, and creates the 'formatted' output file. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 20:24:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC571065675 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:24:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74CAE8FC14 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5CKOagY004551 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:24:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q5CKOagY004551 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q5CKOagY004551; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4FD7A57A.4050203@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:24:26 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <201206122011.q5CKB557038063@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201206122011.q5CKB557038063@mail.r-bonomi.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9C02D1DC5B69CAD01E43B61C" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Subject: Re: text format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:24:41 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9C02D1DC5B69CAD01E43B61C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/06/2012 21:11, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> im only asking what cmd should i use to format an ascii text to be=20 >> > identical to that one, centered and aligned.. > There *ISN'T* any simple command-line tool that will do what you want, > all "automatically". I dunno. 'fmt -c' looks pretty close to me. Seems to work best if you wrap the lines first, then center: % fmt 65 72 < lorem-ipsum.txt | fmt -c Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Proin ac metus nisi. Praesent sit amet accumsan diam. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Nullam lobortis tortor vitae arcu pretium et hendrerit lectus semper. Pellentesque ante diam, dictum vel adipiscing vel, rutrum eget elit. Nam et metus nulla. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Sed convallis dui sit amet ligula imperdiet at tincidunt arcu euismod. Nullam posuere imperdiet est et mattis. Sed nunc leo, vehicula faucibus porttitor luctus, aliquam at tortor. Aliquam hendrerit condimentum nibh, eu interdum quam sodales id. Morbi aliquam fermentum lorem a molestie. Donec commodo odio a mauris elementum semper. Aliquam at massa vel magna vehicula consequat in a tortor. Proin ut est eu lectus aliquet blandit eget vel nulla. Donec risus dolor, tempor ut ultricies quis, adipiscing a dolor. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Ut adipiscing metus sed justo accumsan tempus. Ut sollicitudin aliquet lorem et faucibus. Maecenas vel metus ut diam luctus fermentum sollicitudin eu neque. Cras vitae ipsum sit amet justo aliquam placerat id consectetur urna. Pellentesque vitae mi eu lorem tincidunt feugiat. Quisque vel orci mi, nec ornare dolor. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:29:59 CDT." <4FD798B7.9000003@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 22:50:45 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update Not Recognizing Updated Custom Kernel for 9.0-RELEASE-p3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:51:11 -0000 Resend as I lost cc questions@ by mistake ---- Ryan Frederick wrote: > I have several FreeBSD 9 systems with custom compiled kernels. After > using freebsd-update to go from 9.0-RELEASE-p2 to 9.0-RELEASE-p3 this > morning I rebuilt the kernels. However after recompiling, installing, > and rebooting with the custom kernels subsequent update checks using > freebsd-update cron or freebsd-update fetch indicate that > /boot/kernel/kernel (and only /boot/kernel/kernel) needs to be updated > despite the custom kernel indicating 9.0-RELEASE-p3 in the output of > uname -a. Maybe freebsd-update is taking cognisance of recent posts to security-advisories@freebsd.org Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. 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[139.78.254.45]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a64sm1585647yhe.11.2012.06.12.13.54.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FD7AC9A.608@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 15:54:50 -0500 From: Ryan Frederick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <4FD798B7.9000003@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4FD798B7.9000003@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: freebsd-update Not Recognizing Updated Custom Kernel for 9.0-RELEASE-p3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:54:55 -0000 I realized I made a couple of wording/clarification errors in my original message. First just about all of these kernels are not custom but simply locally compiled with no custom modifications. Second the locally compiled kernels are all named GENERIC (no custom name). Ryan On 6/12/12 2:29 PM, Ryan Frederick wrote: > I have several FreeBSD 9 systems with custom compiled kernels. After > using freebsd-update to go from 9.0-RELEASE-p2 to 9.0-RELEASE-p3 this > morning I rebuilt the kernels. However after recompiling, installing, > and rebooting with the custom kernels subsequent update checks using > freebsd-update cron or freebsd-update fetch indicate that > /boot/kernel/kernel (and only /boot/kernel/kernel) needs to be updated > despite the custom kernel indicating 9.0-RELEASE-p3 in the output of > uname -a. > > Ryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 20:55:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77141106578F for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:55:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01718FC15 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBF61D.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.246.29]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q5CKt535057898; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:55:05 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5CKsrWA050199; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 22:54:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5CKsfMf090296; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 22:54:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201206122054.q5CKsfMf090296@fire.js.berklix.net> To: "O. Hartmann" From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:31:46 +0200." <4FD79922.50106@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 22:54:41 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10/9: Lexar 64GB JumpDrive USB 2.0 isn't recognized anymore! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:55:07 -0000 > I have a Lexar 64GB USB 2.0 JumpDrive which worked in its "pristine" or > "virgine" state very well. I used it yesterday, brand new, to fill it up > with data. Some 30GB data got stored, I shut down the system (FreeBSD > 10.0-CURRENT/amd64) and this morning, I put the USB drive out of the USB > port (computer off) and took it to the office. > > At the office, neither a FreeBSD10.0-CURRENT box nor a FreeBSD > 9.0-STABLE box (both moth recent buildworld) where able to recognize the > drive! While the USB drive was recognized as /dev/da1s1 before, this > time I see in the console something like this: > > ugen7.6: at usbus7 > umass1: on usb= > us7 > > And nothing further anymore. > > On a Linux box (Suse) the USB drive can be read as well as on a Windows > 7 box (I only read the content, I didn't write onto the USB drive on > both systems). > > What is up? Since Windows and Linux can read/recognize the drive and > FreeBSD not, I guess FreeBSD does have a problem with that kind of 64GB > drive. > > I do not care of the data on the USB drive, so I'd like to GPART it. But > without having a device node created, this is very unlikely to achieve. > > Any suggestions? > > Please CC my email, I'm not subscribing this specific list. Think hardware power cabling bad socket, Power available from socket. Power doubler (twin plug) cables. external powered hub I have some towers here cant power some discs. I have one powered hub here, has an extremely weak power supply, Its not always the OS that bites you, but hardware too. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 20:55:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F954106578A for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:55:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from forward12.mail.yandex.net (forward12.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFDE8FC16 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:55:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp14.mail.yandex.net (smtp14.mail.yandex.net [95.108.131.192]) by forward12.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 1736BC20FB9; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:55:09 +0400 (MSK) Received: from smtp14.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp14.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id E91441B604FF; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:55:08 +0400 (MSK) Received: from 93.91.0.72.tel.ru (93.91.0.72.tel.ru [93.91.0.72]) by smtp14.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id t8AKDOBm-t8AuK6S9; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:55:08 +0400 X-Yandex-Rcpt-Suid: baahaa3@gmail.com X-Yandex-Rcpt-Suid: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4FD7ACAC.2020705@passap.ru> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:55:08 +0400 From: Boris Samorodov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111114 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bahaa Babekir References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:55:11 -0000 11.06.2012 16:33, Bahaa Babekir пишет: > I want to sent me configuration to build mail server step by step I'd suggest to begin with: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail.html -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 20:57:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BE0106564A for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D6C8FC1C for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:56:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadv36 with SMTP id v36so7819906dad.13 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:56:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=t8wsnSR1Fuct7vK6zLeLUbaZaaVUGYk8Zs7yAfPtHJ4=; b=fNvXIfffOMLevbTgMFHDkP3JYUfcuLusP/6B1wUJwMIBa6byVwRY8p1KQjqQEAWO8x IwDLjmK9xkUawGyO+786cF/9r4v+EJ1rA5gM/CjhuBu0Qh5OHM0btw72SbtusnK6gW52 gsmjBOjpBhq2vwoTa4QxvdznMxC87EkMpEDF+zohG6GdlUxb5AqaG+udwH6DqQBPvsMA 24dPhg5MrNyxIC0yqejXtbdyJsXtg6Y/EsjJYKdWksTt2bNHOnk7CvbEo9san8vxdgRI ixo5Ud+X3ph6wbQvYV040DY/XDaSASlIU0nmGHDaznpQsiOc8KdYnI3GGxBn3fN7Y7dI TGrA== Received: by 10.68.220.39 with SMTP id pt7mr30763072pbc.40.1339534619471; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ny10sm3163528pbb.38.2012.06.12.13.56.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FD7AE3A.9020404@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:01:46 -0700 From: Edward M User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120605 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C067C55-8320-4D12-A312-F8E2CC699B01@gmail.com> <4FD6A057.2070101@gmail.com> <20120612054431.b630e37a.freebsd@edvax.de> <7F5F7609-DB36-4E37-9196-92B797732C1D@gmail.com> <20120612102200.f5d0b981.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FD7A937.5030607@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4FD7A937.5030607@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: text format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:57:00 -0000 On 06/12/2012 01:40 PM, pwnedomina wrote: > to format an ascii text to be identical to that one, centered and > aligned.. would not that require the use of HTML? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 21:08:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC39C1065676 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:08:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898E48FC12 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:08:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so1424521pbb.13 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:08:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MslaBZegOx7OtUZxDbk4PRnX6mwDdNavi2XXNWNaYkY=; b=yvHtoJOznu9kiJljAZxNEqmsNIOh6kGI4d/KdZvicRBH3T9/vU4UemDdJ6HmMlTdFp u2l+3PbCCCwSytoVnL5aNPu/7LWMb8OLQqwAeX8epM3s6e9u9H8JmX8q2gamF0smY/WN hV53nnBpRrVDuZ+vL9v9Zg5WU/SA0nM2724IeMNkHs3wNXEKMUM+Maarm4cC6ypk6DlZ G2dAdRMwwXOr73De2iYnXmYYwXropssEyCBR+kyJx9C+MY/mVr3yok5SROiNnOv5+WNO RzGZtVqU2eNOSeR/ORC19+Dcey6kL62Ww00qJq3LPOlsK4VO+c5OdaCsmeHKlcvSFZiL Oc2A== Received: by 10.68.232.103 with SMTP id tn7mr41810430pbc.86.1339535283133; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pg1sm3189708pbb.41.2012.06.12.14.08.02 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FD7B0D1.70103@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:12:49 -0700 From: Edward M User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120605 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C067C55-8320-4D12-A312-F8E2CC699B01@gmail.com> <4FD6A057.2070101@gmail.com> <20120612054431.b630e37a.freebsd@edvax.de> <7F5F7609-DB36-4E37-9196-92B797732C1D@gmail.com> <20120612102200.f5d0b981.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FD7A937.5030607@gmail.com> <4FD7AE3A.9020404@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4FD7AE3A.9020404@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: text format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:08:03 -0000 On 06/12/2012 02:01 PM, Edward M wrote: > On 06/12/2012 01:40 PM, pwnedomina wrote: >> to format an ascii text to be identical to that one, centered and >> aligned.. > > > would not that require the use of HTML? > Oops... just dawn on me you may be trying to print an ascii file and may not be trying to ceate a website to look like that. so disregard HTML part. if that is the case:-[ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 21:34:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2B5106566C for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86CDC8FC12 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [71.20.75.102]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 589A416B4E8; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:34:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:32:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:32:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.larseighnerhome.com To: pwnedomina In-Reply-To: <4FD7A937.5030607@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <4C067C55-8320-4D12-A312-F8E2CC699B01@gmail.com> <4FD6A057.2070101@gmail.com> <20120612054431.b630e37a.freebsd@edvax.de> <7F5F7609-DB36-4E37-9196-92B797732C1D@gmail.com> <20120612102200.f5d0b981.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FD7A937.5030607@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: text format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:34:15 -0000 On Tue, 12 Jun 2012, pwnedomina wrote: > On 12-06-2012 08:22, Polytropon wrote: >> On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:06:07 +0100, i pwn wrote: >>> on groff i've used this cmd to format the text >>> groff -Tascii< normal.txt | sed 's/^/ /'$1> formatted.txt >>> on nroff what would be the cmd? >> Depending on your input data, I'd say the same command: >> groff -Tascii< normal.txt> formatted.txt. But you need >> to test this yourself with your input text format. >> >> See "man nroff" for details. >> >> For using roff macros, "man 7 mdoc" has a nice summary. >> >> >> > im only asking what cmd should i use to format an ascii text to be identical > to that one, centered and aligned.. I do not believe there is one. It seems to me there were some DOS "amusement" programs that would do this, and you might find one and run it in dosbox. There is very little demand for fully justified monospaced text because it is extremely ugly, hard to read, and error prone. Nonetheless, OpenOffice appears able to do this and so can MS-Word. I suspect many others can without the necessity of writing your own macro. There may be modules in perl and other scripting languages that might be helpful. Rivers are very difficult to avoid, but as Matthew suggests, you might start with fmt and fix up the output with whatever scripting language you know. If you could find a good hyphenation routine you might get better results. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 21:53:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573EA10656B8 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:53:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihsan.junaidi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D508FC1B for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:53:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so1471778pbb.13 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:53:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=38h9WlrXuaPmQgmPDdmZDKjMih75dly34yQ8I7oy3EU=; b=ZCGyPuant78i1SePK6WZzWmy6Z+9F7676FX0+3K9NQwsnnFE1M1ZfxsNX4t1nBb7LC HRxsYgJ8CD5pFeLvvkpKXKPqJBJ0tvbPV8/RXOFgfpFnu++JLq5yd0kPy1mZIuqz4z/X ZPj8QJF0NtaiD8QHE9dVKlsZo8b6FUBQeXCYrts8rvgtQsHnYRUTRvbPrJTaiPbENPw0 2v9C7OR1J+QfRC3zwCNQ/9T1CjNfIwvon+VL3rKLn/Sb0RjByh0SPiqlipjCfVEPkH3f Pbj/33vmxwjGut/HoJruxdJsd+Kt/eJc20ZdLhJZHRASmHRNA4fM7sQbO8xqXCXMtr8b W4Qw== Received: by 10.68.217.37 with SMTP id ov5mr33563355pbc.82.1339537999543; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cempaka.lan ([175.142.137.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id kg4sm3291190pbb.67.2012.06.12.14.53.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:53:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:53:13 +0800 Message-Id: <5AA101A1-CE57-4F41-A6F1-4049367FBC6D@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Subject: IPMI SoL oddity on 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:53:20 -0000 Folks, I'm hitting a roadblock on getting IPMI SoL up and running on my = Supermicro box. It's a X9SCL-F with a dedicated IPMI LAN. I've installed ipmitool and set the necessary console redirects (COM1, = COM2 and SoL) in the BIOS. The new AMI BIOS does not seem to indicate = the SoL is sharing resources with either one of the two COM ports. All 3 = redirect speed is 9600. Serial console works, as far as COM ports are concerned. The BIOS, the = boot, loader, kernel messages and TTY are all redirected to the COMs. However SoL only works with the BIOS, boot and reading loader defaults. It will get stuck once it enters the spinning kernel boot and it will = stay there. I've tried playing with 0x10 uart flags in device.hints alternating = between uart0 and uart1 also to no available in hoping that the SoL port = is sharing with either one of the two COMs. Regardless SoL simply will not work entering the kernel onwards. Attached are what I believe the configs relevant to my problem. inf02-kul# cat /boot.config=20 -P inf02-kul# cat /boot/loader.conf=20 autoboot_delay=3D"1" console=3D"comconsole" boot_serial=3D"" boot_multicons=3D"" inf02-kul# grep uart /var/run/dmesg.boot=20 uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 uart0: console (9600,n,8,1) uart1: <16550 or compatible> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 uart2: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 10 on acpi0 inf02-kul# grep ttyu /etc/ttys=20 ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure ttyu1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure ttyu2 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure ttyu3 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure inf02-kul# ipmitool sol info Set in progress : set-complete Enabled : true Force Encryption : false Force Authentication : false Privilege Level : USER Character Accumulate Level (ms) : 5 Character Send Threshold : 1 Retry Count : 0 Retry Interval (ms) : 0 Volatile Bit Rate (kbps) : 9.6 Non-Volatile Bit Rate (kbps) : 9.6 Payload Channel : 1 (0x01) Payload Port : 623 inf02-kul# cat /var/run/dmesg.boot=20 Copyright (c) 1992-2012 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights = reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Jun 12 02:52:29 UTC 2012 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC = amd64 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1230 V2 @ 3.30GHz (3292.59-MHz K8-class = CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x306a9 Family =3D 6 Model =3D 3a = Stepping =3D 9 = Features=3D0xbfebfbff = Features2=3D0x77bae3ff> AMD Features=3D0x28100800 AMD Features2=3D0x1 TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics real memory =3D 8589934592 (8192 MB) avail memory =3D 8219156480 (7838 MB) Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 8 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s) x 2 SMT threads cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 cpu4 (AP): APIC ID: 4 cpu5 (AP): APIC ID: 5 cpu6 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu7 (AP): APIC ID: 7 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 67, 1 (4) failed Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 900 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 cpu4: on acpi0 cpu5: on acpi0 cpu6: on acpi0 cpu7: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: irq 16 at device 1.1 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 igb0: port = 0xe020-0xe03f mem = 0xf7a20000-0xf7a3ffff,0xf7800000-0xf79fffff,0xf7a44000-0xf7a47fff irq 17 = at device 0.0 on pci2 igb0: Using MSIX interrupts with 5 vectors igb0: Ethernet address: 00:25:90:6c:25:00 igb1: port = 0xe000-0xe01f mem = 0xf7a00000-0xf7a1ffff,0xf7400000-0xf75fffff,0xf7a40000-0xf7a43fff irq 18 = at device 0.1 on pci2 igb1: Using MSIX interrupts with 5 vectors igb1: Ethernet address: 00:25:90:6c:25:01 em0: port 0xf020-0xf03f mem = 0xf7100000-0xf711ffff,0xf7125000-0xf7125fff irq 20 at device 25.0 on = pci0 em0: Using an MSI interrupt em0: Setup of Shared code failed device_attach: em0 attach returned 6 ehci0: mem 0xf7124000-0xf71243ff irq = 16 at device 26.0 on pci0 usbus0: EHCI version 1.0 usbus0: on ehci0 pcib3: irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 pcib4: irq 16 at device 28.4 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 em1: port 0xd000-0xd01f mem = 0xf7c00000-0xf7c1ffff,0xf7c20000-0xf7c23fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci4 em1: Using MSIX interrupts with 3 vectors em1: Ethernet address: 00:25:90:77:35:08 ehci1: mem 0xf7123000-0xf71233ff irq = 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 usbus1: EHCI version 1.0 usbus1: on ehci1 pcib5: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 vgapci0: mem = 0xf5000000-0xf5ffffff,0xf7000000-0xf7003fff,0xf6800000-0xf6ffffff irq 19 = at device 3.0 on pci5 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 ahci0: port = 0xf070-0xf077,0xf060-0xf063,0xf050-0xf057,0xf040-0xf043,0xf000-0xf01f = mem 0xf7122000-0xf71227ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 ahci0: AHCI v1.30 with 6 3Gbps ports, Port Multiplier not supported ahcich0: at channel 0 on ahci0 ahcich1: at channel 1 on ahci0 ahcich2: at channel 2 on ahci0 ahcich3: at channel 3 on ahci0 ahcich4: at channel 4 on ahci0 ahcich5: at channel 5 on ahci0 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) acpi_button0: on acpi0 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 acpi_tz1: on acpi0 hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 950 Event timer "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 550 atrtc0: port 0x70-0x77 irq 8 on acpi0 atrtc0: Warning: Couldn't map I/O. Event timer "RTC" frequency 32768 Hz quality 0 attimer0: port 0x40-0x43,0x50-0x53 irq 0 on acpi0 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Event timer "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 uart0: console (9600,n,8,1) uart1: <16550 or compatible> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 uart2: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 10 on acpi0 ipmi0: port 0xca2,0xca3 on acpi0 ipmi0: KCS mode found at io 0xca2 on acpi ipmi1: on isa0 device_attach: ipmi1 attach returned 16 ipmi1: on isa0 device_attach: ipmi1 attach returned 16 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on = isa0 ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range est0: on cpu0 p4tcc0: on cpu0 est1: on cpu1 p4tcc1: on cpu1 est2: on cpu2 p4tcc2: on cpu2 est3: on cpu3 p4tcc3: on cpu3 est4: on cpu4 p4tcc4: on cpu4 est5: on cpu5 p4tcc5: on cpu5 est6: on cpu6 p4tcc6: on cpu6 est7: on cpu7 p4tcc7: on cpu7 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec usbus0: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 usbus1: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 ugen0.1: at usbus0 uhub0: on usbus0 ugen1.1: at usbus1 uhub1: on usbus1 ipmi0: IPMI device rev. 1, firmware rev. 1.64, version 2.0 ipmi0: Number of channels 2 ipmi0: Attached watchdog ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 ada0: ATA-8 SATA 3.x device ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: Command Queueing enabled ada0: 57241MB (117231408 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada0: Previously was known as ad4 ada1 at ahcich2 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 ada1: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device ada1: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada1: Command Queueing enabled ada1: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada1: Previously was known as ad8 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #6 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #5 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #4 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #7 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Root mount waiting for: usbus1 usbus0 ugen0.2: at usbus0 uhub2: = on usbus0 ugen1.2: at usbus1 uhub3: = on usbus1 Root mount waiting for: usbus1 usbus0 uhub2: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered ugen0.3: at usbus0 ums0: on usbus0 ums0: 3 buttons and [Z] coordinates ID=3D0 ukbd0: on usbus0 kbd2 at ukbd0 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ada0p2 [rw]...= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 23:26:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E91106566B for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:26:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@jerrymc.net) Received: from jerrymc.net (jerrymc.net [75.75.214.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C438FC16 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:26:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jerrymc.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jerrymc.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5CNQGFt068467; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:26:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@jerrymc.net) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by jerrymc.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q5CNQG0Y068466; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:26:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:26:16 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Boris Samorodov Message-ID: <20120612232616.GA68438@jerrymc.net> References: <4FD7ACAC.2020705@passap.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FD7ACAC.2020705@passap.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Bahaa Babekir , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:26:18 -0000 On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:55:08AM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: > 11.06.2012 16:33, Bahaa Babekir ??????????: > > > I want to sent me configuration to build mail server step by step > > I'd suggest to begin with: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail.html Yes, read the handbook first and then ask specific questions. You need to do your homework. This shotgun style of question will not get much useful response. But, making a mail server with FreeBSD is so easy. Unless you want to do something weird or exotic, then FreeBSD already comes with a good mail server all installed. All you have to do it enable it. Put sendmail_enable="yes" in /etc/rc.conf and the next time you reboot you have the most common mail server running. It will receive and send Email just fine. Then you might want to install mutt from /usr/ports/mail/mutt or some other Email client to help you read your Email. Of course, you could just use the already installed 'mail' utility. If you must have a web-based Email reader, try installing squirrelmail. ////jerry > > -- > WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) > FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 00:20:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11AC106566B for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:20:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629648FC08 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:20:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfy7 with SMTP id fy7so4904vcb.13 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:20:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xMO6/HnTdV2lyZ2om+dYyUosmQJ2QGUm2m2Jm/V9DAo=; b=bWMUNhhHXNJuJpEIbNz2d3Joi4WnnKmAvQ7ghhWf5jbJMOllCcJvfIoM6prVDf1dUZ 0DTJMIznKIU+cW+9JWCtDUqJS6RotpG1U+wAo7Mw5k7Bve+2bGlT+zKAN+H8a1/HVAE6 BBP6qOjhIRt4ReCrbYLjJlrXG+tgXZlZtWiNkafovdOQSxHTBF6BlCdnqkZGg3NYbMTh ojK88fphLXEJMzqPjmAwBDxOVsnthr5Xi801p79InqgKxAl9BPxzlYIq5U4pF04wEL4l f9r2WOW8YpcYjKpZJP2XbyrVX8KLbZfFy+alr+4kFePbdM+AKHmmtXBSrwFxhLaw0hZ5 rDhQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.221.13.77 with SMTP id pl13mr3422690vcb.49.1339546840296; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:20:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.113.97 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:20:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120612175640.GA16926@thought.org> References: <20120611220232.GA29749@thought.org> <20120612003110.GA2394@thought.org> <20120612175640.GA16926@thought.org> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:20:40 -0400 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: any way to grab just One port to upgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:20:46 -0000 On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:34:44AM -0400, Robert Simmons wrote: >> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:34:44 -0400 >> From: Robert Simmons >> Subject: Re: any way to grab just One port to upgrade? >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> >> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Gary Kline wrote: >> > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 06:14:52PM -0400, Robert Simmons wrote: >> >> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:14:52 -0400 >> >> From: Robert Simmons >> >> Subject: Re: any way to grab just One port to upgrade? >> >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Gary Kline wrote= : >> >> > it is easy to cvs or cvsup ports and get a whole slew of ports in >> >> > /usr/ports/distfiles, but too often, using portmaster [or another >> >> > tool], I'll have only one of two ports that fail because they are >> >> > either 1) broken, or 2) out of date. =A0is there any way I can grab >> >> > just the ones that fail to compile? =A0I'm down to fewer than 50 >> >> > ports. >> >> > and wedged. >> >> >> >> You don't want to have /usr/ports out of sync. =A0You want to let >> >> cvsup/portsnap do it's thing. =A0It's ideal to have the whole ports >> >> collection up-to-date. =A0You may want to start with a clean slate an= d >> >> cvsup/portsnap a fresh copy of the ports collection if you think that >> >> something is amiss. =A0You can make a backup of /usr/ports for peace = of >> >> mind too. >> >> >> >> Also, can you please supply exactly what ports you're talking about >> >> and what commands you are running to upgrade? =A0Error output for the >> >> ports you say are broken would be another good thing to supply. >> > >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0something in x11-toolkits/gtk20 blew up. =A0SOOOO. >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0lolngstoryshrt, I rebuilt from scratch [[ from the very >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0beginning ]] around 2 hours ago. =A0it Just died. =A0he= re are >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0the last 20 lines:: >> > >> > >> > gmake[2]: Leaving directory >> > `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/modules' >> > Making all in demos >> > gmake[2]: Entering directory >> > `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/demos' >> > /usr/local/bin/gdk-pixbuf-csource --raw --build-list =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0\ >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0apple_red =A0./apple-red.png =A0 =A0 =A0\ >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0gnome_foot ./gnome-foot.png =A0 =A0 \ >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0> test-inline-pixbufs.h =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 \ >> > || (rm -f test-inline-pixbufs.h && false) >> > failed to load "./apple-red.png": Couldn't recognize the image file >> > format for file './apple-red.png' >> > gmake[2]: *** [test-inline-pixbufs.h] Error 1 >> > gmake[2]: Leaving directory >> > `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/demos' >> > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >> > gmake[1]: Leaving directory >> > `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6' >> > gmake: *** [all] Error 2 >> > *** Error code 1 >> > >> > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. >> > *** Error code 1 >> > >> > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. >> > root@ethic:/tmp# >> > >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0unless this port is known to be broken, I'll cvsup the = ports >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0tree. >> >> That may not be necessary. =A0I'm building gtk20 on a freshly installed >> virtual machine with a freshly portsnap'd ports tree. =A0I noticed the >> following in the CVS logs: >> CVS log for ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/Makefile >> Revision 1.256: download - view: text, markup, annotated - select for di= ffs >> Fri Jun 1 05:25:47 2012 UTC (10 days, 22 hours ago) by dinoex >> Branches: MAIN >> CVS tags: HEAD >> Diff to: previous 1.255: preferred, colored >> Changes since revision 1.255: +1 -1 lines >> - update png to 1.5.10 >> >> Since png just changed, and the error you encountered is "failed to >> load "./apple-red.png": Couldn't recognize the image file", I think >> you may have run into a bug. =A0I'll find out in the morning when the >> build is done. > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0thanks much++. =A0I can't understand how a *pmg file could > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0fail .. but then all it takes is one byte.... Well, I am unable to reproduce the build failure, so I suggest basically reproducing my environment in your own. Backup your ports tree (mv ports ports.old is good if you have space). Then backup the directory with your cvsup data (the checkouts files). Run your cvsup to get a fresh copy of the ports tree. Perform your upgrades again with portmaster, or whatever you would like to use. See if this doesn't solve your problem. 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Is there a way I can restore it, or at least manually add entries I know for sure about? 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Sur ce lien : http://www.sukoga.com/ ----01dcc2141a2574d21fa8109edb3d611b-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 06:11:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8CD61065701 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:11:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919948FC0C for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:11:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-177.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.177]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FEC427F07; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:11:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q5D6BLYQ001992; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:11:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:11:21 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Lars Eighner Message-Id: <20120613081121.9efe53d5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4C067C55-8320-4D12-A312-F8E2CC699B01@gmail.com> <4FD6A057.2070101@gmail.com> <20120612054431.b630e37a.freebsd@edvax.de> <7F5F7609-DB36-4E37-9196-92B797732C1D@gmail.com> <20120612102200.f5d0b981.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FD7A937.5030607@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pwnedomina , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: text format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:11:24 -0000 On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:32:40 -0500 (CDT), Lars Eighner wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jun 2012, pwnedomina wrote: > > > On 12-06-2012 08:22, Polytropon wrote: > >> On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:06:07 +0100, i pwn wrote: > >>> on groff i've used this cmd to format the text > >>> groff -Tascii< normal.txt | sed 's/^/ /'$1> formatted.txt > >>> on nroff what would be the cmd? > >> Depending on your input data, I'd say the same command: > >> groff -Tascii< normal.txt> formatted.txt. But you need > >> to test this yourself with your input text format. > >> > >> See "man nroff" for details. > >> > >> For using roff macros, "man 7 mdoc" has a nice summary. > >> > >> > >> > > im only asking what cmd should i use to format an ascii text to be identical > > to that one, centered and aligned.. Depending on what your actual text input is (no markup, plain ASCII text), this _should_ work: groff -Tascii < normal.txt > formatted.txt But _you_ need to try yourself and _maybe_ adjust your input accordingly. Also consider using the "fmt" program as it has been suggested for "document preparation". > I do not believe there is one. It seems to me there were some DOS > "amusement" programs that would do this, and you might find one and run it > in dosbox. I know that "Context Pro" can do this. Also "WordStar" or "TP" are able to apply margins and align text to "justify" ("solid column"). > There is very little demand for fully justified monospaced text > because it is extremely ugly, hard to read, and error prone. Nonetheless, > OpenOffice appears able to do this and so can MS-Word. I suspect many > others can without the necessity of writing your own macro. There may be > modules in perl and other scripting languages that might be helpful. It's even possible to search the web for a simple LaTeX enclosing and put it into that, but then we leave the domain of ASCII text in the output. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 06:17:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1432C106564A for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:17:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818AB8FC0C for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:17:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by laai10 with SMTP id i10so175816laa.13 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:17:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=3swrVsjI63z7BC5iSY3JM0hjEXH/C/X09GS34fnmhSs=; b=D5r6fyON6vWd7vWXtSaK2tL6udkBewk9za0ikr2HXE4nY0Jsn+v/o7Dh6ZmEkQYnQf +SFxy/DXJLa9cMafKZuKXhCyLzcDyKm/X+y7GuIrgE4SWlAczDcbH5uGtZBu052ROVsg 7R+PiPz17IiBMTT7ot0DrBATOS9wO9UqUGr4r2ziX2tOADfCsOt8rNRaaVk4DQLlKfeZ M/sifbGJSxiQrJ873J/z0T8DbBeupGv9NAUFVclPo50ogFWMYOXie6ouA1YtqKT/OBeW hJ2cyjeiS6BAeu3Vr4kuy1yPKy3Rxw++75Je0ouf40dB1HYfttq8KGE2hzxsRz9m0TNP aUeA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.44.163 with SMTP id f3mr5743523lbm.59.1339568228285; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.13.8 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:17:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [174.254.33.250] Received: by 10.114.13.8 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:17:08 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Brian W." To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlGHpZFEu0LPBqVlST8cymouOwQf8C+ljJMZDLBkOLhoa3qDZPgyjOJ8vuM8p0xFZ3tSd1O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: P5-FuzzyOcr port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:17:10 -0000 Pkg_add -r can't find a package for this; I presume this is deliberate because of the unmaintained status of fuzzyocr? Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 06:27:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC22106564A for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:27:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913E88FC08 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:27:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5D6GqHH066682 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:16:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q5D6GqHH066682 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q5D6GqHH066682; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4FD8304C.7000004@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:16:44 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig53EDC28D8CB950A2E9ED52AC" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Subject: Re: Lost /var/db/pkg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:27:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig53EDC28D8CB950A2E9ED52AC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 13/06/2012 02:03, William Orr wrote: > I had a hard disk failure some time ago, and I ended up losing > /var/db/pkg/ and everything under it (before you say I should've been > backing it up, I know, I was actually doing an initial full when this > happened). Is there a way I can restore it, or at least manually add > entries I know for sure about? Reinstall all the ports on your system? Since you've lost /var/db/pkg, you won't have a handy record of what the necessary packages are. You can get a long way by starting with ports you want directly (eg. firefox) and reinstalling all of their dependencies. It's unlikely to be completely accurate, and the system will probably have odd little issues with normal ports maintenance going on. Perhaps the most effective procedure would be to wipe out the contents of /usr/local and /compat/linux and just start again from scratch. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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Message-Id: <20120613082640.49e03b75.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: P5-FuzzyOcr port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:27:51 -0000 On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:17:08 -0700, Brian W. wrote: > Pkg_add -r can't find a package for this; I presume this is deliberate > because of the unmaintained status of fuzzyocr? Seems there is no precompiled package (see the package location ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8-stable/All/ or whatever matches your platform and OS version). But the ports p5-FuzzyOcr and p5-FuzzyOcr-devel are still present (at least in my not up-to-date ports tree) - have you tried installing from a port instead? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 07:08:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526E8106566B for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:08:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0998FC0C for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:08:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so304696wer.13 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:08:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GnU2m9Epn8tmjDhJfLOnqKJbkOU1+/O3t5o9cM5iAw4=; b=jYWs4i8mpR2T0gT2L+AB3jWRjLzHpwzEYKgvoHWVdJaM4T5yHtUou94TIlZQT8Nds2 vXucG+oewNSM1nL7PEhY+lg5JIjtD0CLPRQWrkFFiw2G8SQd3ShhiPtv2jfo7jJxxVnF 9yDLPaf195SRum1ZYTt7NLVv8XbaWzILKmjMDCs/MMy3LdHsP26SpCfAr1XZcrKp0xHk XHc5dMPCyhzt1BKAHsHZXheCbMcuUvOiGghFx3C7GAjYDPxqNCHWgxybq7gr0WANFeAS wZuR3yPJDX2l8/NfquJcvIjNQ3uRPk7BJAUxiARjPirIjKWoWe4yUQzBwIzgxpKxjJMD 6MQw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.207.27 with SMTP id m27mr9924087weo.42.1339571293882; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.7.105 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 03:08:12 -0400 Message-ID: From: grarpamp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Many open branches = excess FreeBSD project work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:08:17 -0000 We talk about release dates and always slippage and effect on downstream in other thread. But maybe some causes and even just related efficiency thing is: FreeBSD officially maintaining right now [1]: - G HEAD - G RELENG_9 - S RELENG_9_0 - G RELENG_8 - S RELENG_8_3 - S RELENG_8_2 - S RELENG_8_1 - G RELENG_7 - S RELENG_7_4 Woah!?!? Seem a lot of [G]eneral dev and [S]ecurity branches open at once. It seem crazy, and much extra work for whole FreeBSD project. Maybe some ways out there to reduce number of open trees/work? And enhance quality of releases or something in result. Suggest maybe making just two rolling RELENG (features, stable). Features be good for adopters and fine polishing post dev teams. Stable be amazing good production quality all downstream want. Then short live security/bug (only maintain till next from branch) releases from both (these be the formal releases). Focus be on quality level and first row left to right movement (timing) of feature sets. Second row past Xs1 be just closed snaps in time. HEAD -> Features ----------> Stable +- Fs1 x Fs2 x Fs3 +- Ss1 x Ss2 x Ss3 Similar to: Do a horizontal collapse two below rows into formal branches... 2.2.x, 4.x, 8.x = good (stable) other branch.x = intermediate, not maintain worthy (features) Today FreeBSD think it have to maintain nine trains (aka: rly, wtf)? I say with some focus tuning tomorrow it does not :) And just document another project ways (not make any imply from it): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7pkyDUX5uM [1] http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 07:12:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A574106564A for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:12:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16798FC08 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.113.121.231] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SehkX-0000aP-M8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:12:18 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5D7CFV7001254 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:12:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q5D7CEDD001253 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:12:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:12:14 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120613071213.GA1231@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <4FD8304C.7000004@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4FD8304C.7000004@FreeBSD.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 82.113.121.231 Subject: Re: Lost /var/db/pkg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:12:25 -0000 El día Wednesday, June 13, 2012 a las 07:16:44AM +0100, Matthew Seaman escribió: > On 13/06/2012 02:03, William Orr wrote: > > I had a hard disk failure some time ago, and I ended up losing > > /var/db/pkg/ and everything under it (before you say I should've been > > backing it up, I know, I was actually doing an initial full when this > > happened). Is there a way I can restore it, or at least manually add > > entries I know for sure about? > > Reinstall all the ports on your system? Since you've lost /var/db/pkg, > you won't have a handy record of what the necessary packages are. You > can get a long way by starting with ports you want directly (eg. > firefox) and reinstalling all of their dependencies. > > It's unlikely to be completely accurate, and the system will probably > have odd little issues with normal ports maintenance going on. Perhaps > the most effective procedure would be to wipe out the contents of > /usr/local and /compat/linux and just start again from scratch. The later is the only way: wipe out /usr/local and /compat/linux because many ports during the intent of 'make install' will check for files there and do nothing for ports they depend on because they 'think' that the port on which they depend on is installed already. Without this you will never ever get a correct /var/db/pkg. matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 07:25:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CCED106566B for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:25:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE628FC08 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:25:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5D7Oqcs067856 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:24:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q5D7Oqcs067856 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1339572293; bh=fIfTCACDfpBtLwxjEm+bsHSdKE8PFevBHeZsU0+DPgI=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=Gl/aw7D/2aAFSn7r4kRBEn6MxTbQPpY88nnsERnCp6Q62YPHzWhWvTad5mB3TRvzK kpTUehIzLPE1B6FnFEHm8Gs1T5UcR8NvfWCpeAGrL1VRT/9A1AlZkUFYBTXTRxnqx3 VDjRbSgmj1E+AQM41/70TN6bP2xP890Bv4eoqWW8= Message-ID: <4FD8403D.7080808@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:24:45 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Brian W." References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA7F3C66A45273DB5EEDF43A2" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_ALL,DKIM_SIGNED,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: P5-FuzzyOcr port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:25:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA7F3C66A45273DB5EEDF43A2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 13/06/2012 07:17, Brian W. wrote: > Pkg_add -r can't find a package for this; I presume this is deliberate > because of the unmaintained status of fuzzyocr? Not directly. As many pkgs as possible are built from ports, irrespective of who the maintainers are. An unmaintained port is however less likely to have any issues attended to promptly. If you want to see exactly why no pkg exists, use portsmon: http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portoverview.py?category=3Dmail&portname=3Dp5= -FuzzyOcr and the reason is that the graphics/giflib port -- one of the dependencies -- failed to work properly. On 9.0-RELEASE it shows the problem is to do with XML validation, and there's an open PR about that which is assigned to the graphics/giflib maintainer. There should be a fix fairly soon. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigA7F3C66A45273DB5EEDF43A2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/YQEQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzPNACeNDVlCVytHFRPTmupxzWaj60D BiYAnRq5NqPF5VNxTK73dJNiNGGJ3Gtt =MkpF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA7F3C66A45273DB5EEDF43A2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 08:51:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589071065678 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:51:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0818FC14 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:51:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout08 with smtp id Mkrd1j00E516WCc01krei5; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:51:38 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=I8Dntacg c=1 sm=1 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=rLpCYgkgFLgA:10 a=RLl8lpB8pwYA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=tB-XMb4JaUVZ8I7HIF8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SejIa-0000yB-1y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:51:37 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:51:31 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <48302.1339366497@tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: <48302.1339366497@tristatelogic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201206130951.31804.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) Subject: Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:51:47 -0000 On Sunday 10 June 2012 23:14:57 Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > Well, nevermind about that. =A0I get the general idea, i.e. that dumping > at level N causes dumping of everything that has changed since the last > dump at level N-1. A point to be aware of is that if you restore from a full backup followed b= y=20 one or more incrementals then you will restore ALL files which were present= =20 when each dump was made - including any files which have been intentionally= =20 deleted since the dump was created. This isn't normally a problem but there= =20 might be some obscure situations where it could be. =2D-=20 Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 08:56:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8DC106566C for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:56:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABCC8FC0C for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:56:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q5D8uRmB078074; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:56:28 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:56:27 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: "Randal L. Schwartz" In-Reply-To: <863961ze51.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <20120613182325.K46641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20120610120041.4D0F610657C3@hub.freebsd.org> <20120611025332.N46641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <863961ze51.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Bill Yuan , "Brian W." Subject: Re: how to allow by MAC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:56:41 -0000 On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:18:18 -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>> "Bill" == Bill Yuan writes: > Bill> I want to create a white list MAC address, Only the machine which it's MAC > Bill> in the white list will be allowed, all others will be blocked. > > Bad idea. Since (a) every MAC address that *is* allowed is transmitted > in the clear and (b) it's trivial to spoof a MAC address. > > This. is. no. security. Indeed, that's right Randal. But I got the impression from Bill's mails that this is more likely just something inside his internal network. > Please stop even trying. Well I don't think learning how to use ipfw properly at layer2 is a bad idea in itself, and I wouldn't want to discourage anyone from that. For some years I ran a filtering transparent bridge with ipfw + dummynet for a small network of about 20 mostly W98, XP and Mac boxes sharing one slow ADSL gateway between various assorted community groups (talk about herding cats! :) and MAC filtering was one of the handiest tools when some box or other got owned (again!) by some virus and started spewing spam, provider complains and/or cuts access .. you know the deal. In that sort of environment, none of the punters had any clue about forging MACs or anything vaguely like that, and it stopped people randomly plugging boxes into the network. Horses for courses. I replied in more detail to another from Bill privately, copy follows. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 10:33:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D4F106564A for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:33:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihsan.junaidi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f44.google.com (mail-pz0-f44.google.com [209.85.210.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137228FC0A for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dacx6 with SMTP id x6so964820dac.17 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 03:33:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=IkEwIUrc0ttAnOiO6hlBS92E2YPoaTqBEjFv9BRqugQ=; b=JIs+Bzent96sKWUgPJZ81BUUqiCvI2ge847/0yYX/sVeSbesKRYQbRBcPLvQSFSbFB C738K8S1c0gypzdHUPwYQfo9WUb2+OUWQOGfy8zNXIh2PlqFEzBgcLeEt0QcMSqbDZQ1 LdtclMEjmTmkD6wo5qo1T37p1MGnFSa8Elgmui+GhL34ZZD04X8PvVglUq1kOn2H4uR0 uuZoAB80hfn0XrhIi3a0pleQ/LBxpm5TiLlTAmaDbNcNrdlzbsee5a83weyIRYiSQ19C Xi6KUNkF+2nT8YB4yFyK959zRUzPmpIg2kc7YreT3icv13PAfDsIYZqcAxFDlz/nLjRl cIUA== Received: by 10.68.227.36 with SMTP id rx4mr48779398pbc.144.1339583622367; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 03:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cempaka.lan ([175.142.137.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id tz10sm5314308pbc.64.2012.06.13.03.33.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 03:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) From: Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim In-Reply-To: <5AA101A1-CE57-4F41-A6F1-4049367FBC6D@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:33:36 +0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <84702286-89A2-41AA-B004-0B26EA5B11CD@gmail.com> References: <5AA101A1-CE57-4F41-A6F1-4049367FBC6D@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Subject: Re: IPMI SoL oddity on 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:33:43 -0000 I've managed to get SoL to work. Turned out the IPMI is utilizing uart2 on my box so modified loader.conf = so uart2 is configured to be the serial console port. hint.uart.0.flags=3D"0x0" hint.uart.2.at=3D"isa" hint.uart.2.port=3D"0x3E8" hint.uart.2.irq=3D"10" hint.uart.2.flags=3D"0x10" The handbook does not seem to indicate this very clearly but well, now = that it's working, I'm a happy man. ihsan On Jun 13, 2012, at 5:53 AM, Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim wrote: > Folks, >=20 > I'm hitting a roadblock on getting IPMI SoL up and running on my = Supermicro box. It's a X9SCL-F with a dedicated IPMI LAN. >=20 > I've installed ipmitool and set the necessary console redirects (COM1, = COM2 and SoL) in the BIOS. The new AMI BIOS does not seem to indicate = the SoL is sharing resources with either one of the two COM ports. All 3 = redirect speed is 9600. >=20 > Serial console works, as far as COM ports are concerned. The BIOS, the = boot, loader, kernel messages and TTY are all redirected to the COMs. >=20 > However SoL only works with the BIOS, boot and reading loader = defaults. >=20 > It will get stuck once it enters the spinning kernel boot and it will = stay there. >=20 > I've tried playing with 0x10 uart flags in device.hints alternating = between uart0 and uart1 also to no available in hoping that the SoL port = is sharing with either one of the two COMs. >=20 > Regardless SoL simply will not work entering the kernel onwards. >=20 > Attached are what I believe the configs relevant to my problem. >=20 > inf02-kul# cat /boot.config=20 > -P >=20 > inf02-kul# cat /boot/loader.conf=20 > autoboot_delay=3D"1" > console=3D"comconsole" > boot_serial=3D"" > boot_multicons=3D"" >=20 > inf02-kul# grep uart /var/run/dmesg.boot=20 > uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on = acpi0 > uart0: console (9600,n,8,1) > uart1: <16550 or compatible> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 > uart2: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 10 on acpi0 >=20 > inf02-kul# grep ttyu /etc/ttys=20 > ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure > ttyu1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure > ttyu2 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure > ttyu3 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure >=20 > inf02-kul# ipmitool sol info > Set in progress : set-complete > Enabled : true > Force Encryption : false > Force Authentication : false > Privilege Level : USER > Character Accumulate Level (ms) : 5 > Character Send Threshold : 1 > Retry Count : 0 > Retry Interval (ms) : 0 > Volatile Bit Rate (kbps) : 9.6 > Non-Volatile Bit Rate (kbps) : 9.6 > Payload Channel : 1 (0x01) > Payload Port : 623 >=20 > inf02-kul# cat /var/run/dmesg.boot=20 > Copyright (c) 1992-2012 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, = 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights = reserved. > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Jun 12 02:52:29 UTC 2012 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC = amd64 > CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1230 V2 @ 3.30GHz (3292.59-MHz K8-class = CPU) > Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x306a9 Family =3D 6 Model =3D 3a = Stepping =3D 9 > = Features=3D0xbfebfbff > = Features2=3D0x77bae3ff> > AMD Features=3D0x28100800 > AMD Features2=3D0x1 > TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics > real memory =3D 8589934592 (8192 MB) > avail memory =3D 8219156480 (7838 MB) > Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 > ACPI APIC Table: > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 8 CPUs > FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s) x 2 SMT threads > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 > cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 > cpu4 (AP): APIC ID: 4 > cpu5 (AP): APIC ID: 5 > cpu6 (AP): APIC ID: 6 > cpu7 (AP): APIC ID: 7 > ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard > kbd1 at kbdmux0 > acpi0: on motherboard > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > acpi0: reservation of 67, 1 (4) failed > Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 900 > acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 > cpu0: on acpi0 > cpu1: on acpi0 > cpu2: on acpi0 > cpu3: on acpi0 > cpu4: on acpi0 > cpu5: on acpi0 > cpu6: on acpi0 > cpu7: on acpi0 > pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 > pci0: on pcib0 > pcib1: irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0 > pci1: on pcib1 > pcib2: irq 16 at device 1.1 on pci0 > pci2: on pcib2 > igb0: port = 0xe020-0xe03f mem = 0xf7a20000-0xf7a3ffff,0xf7800000-0xf79fffff,0xf7a44000-0xf7a47fff irq 17 = at device 0.0 on pci2 > igb0: Using MSIX interrupts with 5 vectors > igb0: Ethernet address: 00:25:90:6c:25:00 > igb1: port = 0xe000-0xe01f mem = 0xf7a00000-0xf7a1ffff,0xf7400000-0xf75fffff,0xf7a40000-0xf7a43fff irq 18 = at device 0.1 on pci2 > igb1: Using MSIX interrupts with 5 vectors > igb1: Ethernet address: 00:25:90:6c:25:01 > em0: port 0xf020-0xf03f = mem 0xf7100000-0xf711ffff,0xf7125000-0xf7125fff irq 20 at device 25.0 on = pci0 > em0: Using an MSI interrupt > em0: Setup of Shared code failed > device_attach: em0 attach returned 6 > ehci0: mem 0xf7124000-0xf71243ff = irq 16 at device 26.0 on pci0 > usbus0: EHCI version 1.0 > usbus0: on ehci0 > pcib3: irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0 > pci3: on pcib3 > pcib4: irq 16 at device 28.4 on pci0 > pci4: on pcib4 > em1: port 0xd000-0xd01f = mem 0xf7c00000-0xf7c1ffff,0xf7c20000-0xf7c23fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on = pci4 > em1: Using MSIX interrupts with 3 vectors > em1: Ethernet address: 00:25:90:77:35:08 > ehci1: mem 0xf7123000-0xf71233ff = irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 > usbus1: EHCI version 1.0 > usbus1: on ehci1 > pcib5: at device 30.0 on pci0 > pci5: on pcib5 > vgapci0: mem = 0xf5000000-0xf5ffffff,0xf7000000-0xf7003fff,0xf6800000-0xf6ffffff irq 19 = at device 3.0 on pci5 > isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 > isa0: on isab0 > ahci0: port = 0xf070-0xf077,0xf060-0xf063,0xf050-0xf057,0xf040-0xf043,0xf000-0xf01f = mem 0xf7122000-0xf71227ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 > ahci0: AHCI v1.30 with 6 3Gbps ports, Port Multiplier not supported > ahcich0: at channel 0 on ahci0 > ahcich1: at channel 1 on ahci0 > ahcich2: at channel 2 on ahci0 > ahcich3: at channel 3 on ahci0 > ahcich4: at channel 4 on ahci0 > ahcich5: at channel 5 on ahci0 > pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) > acpi_button0: on acpi0 > acpi_tz0: on acpi0 > acpi_tz1: on acpi0 > hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on = acpi0 > Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 950 > Event timer "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 550 > atrtc0: port 0x70-0x77 irq 8 on acpi0 > atrtc0: Warning: Couldn't map I/O. > Event timer "RTC" frequency 32768 Hz quality 0 > attimer0: port 0x40-0x43,0x50-0x53 irq 0 on acpi0 > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > Event timer "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100 > atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 > atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 > kbd0 at atkbd0 > atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on = acpi0 > uart0: console (9600,n,8,1) > uart1: <16550 or compatible> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 > uart2: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 10 on acpi0 > ipmi0: port 0xca2,0xca3 on acpi0 > ipmi0: KCS mode found at io 0xca2 on acpi > ipmi1: on isa0 > device_attach: ipmi1 attach returned 16 > ipmi1: on isa0 > device_attach: ipmi1 attach returned 16 > sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 > sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> > vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on = isa0 > ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range > est0: on cpu0 > p4tcc0: on cpu0 > est1: on cpu1 > p4tcc1: on cpu1 > est2: on cpu2 > p4tcc2: on cpu2 > est3: on cpu3 > p4tcc3: on cpu3 > est4: on cpu4 > p4tcc4: on cpu4 > est5: on cpu5 > p4tcc5: on cpu5 > est6: on cpu6 > p4tcc6: on cpu6 > est7: on cpu7 > p4tcc7: on cpu7 > Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec > usbus0: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 > usbus1: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 > ugen0.1: at usbus0 > uhub0: on = usbus0 > ugen1.1: at usbus1 > uhub1: on = usbus1 > ipmi0: IPMI device rev. 1, firmware rev. 1.64, version 2.0 > ipmi0: Number of channels 2 > ipmi0: Attached watchdog > ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 > ada0: ATA-8 SATA 3.x device > ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) > ada0: Command Queueing enabled > ada0: 57241MB (117231408 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) > ada0: Previously was known as ad4 > ada1 at ahcich2 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 > ada1: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device > ada1: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) > ada1: Command Queueing enabled > ada1: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) > ada1: Previously was known as ad8 > SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! > SMP: AP CPU #6 Launched! > SMP: AP CPU #5 Launched! > SMP: AP CPU #4 Launched! > SMP: AP CPU #7 Launched! > SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! > SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > Root mount waiting for: usbus1 usbus0 > ugen0.2: at usbus0 > uhub2: on usbus0 > ugen1.2: at usbus1 > uhub3: on usbus1 > Root mount waiting for: usbus1 usbus0 > uhub2: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered > uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered > ugen0.3: at usbus0 > ums0: on usbus0 > ums0: 3 buttons and [Z] coordinates ID=3D0 > ukbd0: on usbus0 > kbd2 at ukbd0 > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ada0p2 [rw]... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 12:04:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344C51065670; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 12:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7EB8FC1E; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 12:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 13 Jun 2012 08:03:53 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BNP52719; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:03:52 -0400 Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=209.6.86.84; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: Neutral identity=mailfrom; client-ip=209.6.86.84; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=209.6.86.84; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="postmaster@jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received: from 209-6-86-84.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.86.84]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 13 Jun 2012 08:03:51 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20440.33190.905351.819751@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:03:50 -0400 To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4FD8304C.7000004@FreeBSD.org> References: <4FD8304C.7000004@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lost /var/db/pkg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 12:04:00 -0000 Matthew Seaman writes: > > I had a hard disk failure some time ago, and I ended up losing > > /var/db/pkg/ and everything under it (before you say I should've been > > backing it up, I know, I was actually doing an initial full when this > > happened). Is there a way I can restore it, or at least manually add > > entries I know for sure about? > > Reinstall all the ports on your system? Since you've lost > /var/db/pkg, you won't have a handy record of what the necessary > packages are. You can get a long way by starting with ports you > want directly (eg. firefox) and reinstalling all of their > dependencies. > > It's unlikely to be completely accurate, and the system will > probably have odd little issues with normal ports maintenance > going on. Perhaps the most effective procedure would be to wipe > out the contents of /usr/local and /compat/linux and just start > again from scratch. Only that's going to eradicate anything in /usr/local that a) one wants/uses and b) wasn't put there by ports. (Tell me you don't have a handful of scripts which have been working happily away since you wrote them in the early Devonian. :-) A less drastic path would be to wipe out /usr/local/{lib, libexec}, /compat/linux, and whatever directory has port-installed docs. Check /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/etc (especially rc.d/), and /usr/local/share; many files there are named for their ports. Grep bin/ for anything whose first line is "#! /bin/sh", and figure out where it came from. _Now_ start with major prograns you know were installed - on my system that would be emacs, FireFox, Java, LibreOffice, ImageMagick, and mplayer - and get out your copy of - because even on a fast system you're talking days to put everything back. Robert "learned the hard way" Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 14:33:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1ED3106564A for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:33:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from blue.seahorse.syndicate@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qa0-f49.google.com (mail-qa0-f49.google.com [209.85.216.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9238FC14 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:33:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qabj40 with SMTP id j40so1379573qab.15 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:33:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=reply-to:from:to:subject:date:organization:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=DOYHRpVmHOl9l/hi+MDIhYN8djGDUBtfltbDjMbsW90=; b=01XewFFcebk7i1yMkmCjLnJ1eZCv5EPikhE7Ebq8V/FBvt8qavMIgn3l2vRaElXIOU inwVG56MddsbMUPEjQUP+H9kzp28awHypcDnl6gTR+5rO1yEsNJWWoN+hCw3SJRcrd+a Ej5u5AYd5f/NB0Bl4dZcDTAqPanlEPjXpUAnAqU6TaGs1yIXd+QbtSHeAp0aCrcssB+L B4bIw/MTo1N3DNlMWf8lJ+V6Jkajl4i9o4E1lT2A84MWc3k9lz3dbsQJzXT/BZf8qM5U 0Rss89ysWA50+fNJgQgbFTkZ44GwX/kkHqi6dToPidvN70OA+TyLw4rpluiXyOcmxKbE PN0w== Received: by 10.224.72.210 with SMTP id n18mr27236675qaj.10.1339598033764; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blueleafone (pool-72-95-123-27.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net. [72.95.123.27]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e2sm9875531qap.15.2012.06.13.07.33.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:33:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynn Steven Killingsworth To: Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:33:49 -0400 Organization: Blue Seahorse Syndicate Message-ID: <000d01cd4971$8d36bfc0$a7a43f40$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01CD4950.0626A660" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac1JcDVbmvFJMKBkRAmtFYRT0/0iXQ== Content-Language: en-us X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: hwpstate0 set frequency err 6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Blue.Seahorse.Syndicate@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:33:55 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01CD4950.0626A660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi FreeBSD - This is the fourth time I have installed FreeBSD while learning the in's and out's. I have a new mainboard this time (ASUS M5A97 EVO + AMD FX 8120.) I have set up dual booting because of a few legacy apps. When the boot of OS gets to the login prompt I begin to get the error message 'hwpstate0 set frequency err 6' During installation my super-workstation started to run as though it were getting the absolutely maximum stress test. The fans on my new Corsair H80 started to whine as well. The 'stress test' effect starts the three next times I have booted so I am not booting into FreeBSD at the moment. Any advice? Thanks Lynn Steven Killingsworth ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01CD4950.0626A660-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 14:44:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A063106564A for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:44:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A2C8FC12 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by laai10 with SMTP id i10so600255laa.13 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:44:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=0gH02ABudL5GEClcJG2ptg82rRMecMh4bnuPqqHJl7g=; b=URvgbaKtzsSN7BFXEzndira/xPVGSkvcL5ipqTwehiE4iEMNBp+0VjfIXRroew1SK5 UxqDBj3phAsnF5TmBUGaWRvtV4HDAXesSXBrkdsid46hBhwXO6sxn3V38tEAvXheoOks +dlt81Ep7qlQGqCZShsr+xIo76QD8fFohhzKTwNXxFTqtQi+XHmDNiEcJ127WEKdM96F qs/IGA3SWqCdK5O6oTWTiQlLJUI9WT27vhNK8dJg57vN+LzUpU4rHLGlNC5N01Qeh9Tr IjEc5utr5T6OjPR31zP2qiXFD6SB1U+nZYmen6AhU0N0CX5xJDxT/LIDLAMhn2yzOylv pWrQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.83.229 with SMTP id t5mr6458915lby.8.1339598652326; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:44:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.13.8 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:44:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [66.93.34.235] Received: by 10.114.13.8 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:44:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FD8403D.7080808@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4FD8403D.7080808@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:44:12 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Brian W." To: Matthew Seaman X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQll7OvJj2qZsiqnkv6DDItp8g/lrgS8DTxrqQnEmPfHekMxZvXl3mG4Ivj032lfQwSFIQcq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: P5-FuzzyOcr port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:44:14 -0000 I was migrating from v7 to v8 when I saw this a few nights ago. The upgrade was going speedily well till I hit that. Like I said I was able to get through it by building the port. On Jun 13, 2012 12:25 AM, "Matthew Seaman" wrote: > On 13/06/2012 07:17, Brian W. wrote: > > Pkg_add -r can't find a package for this; I presume this is deliberate > > because of the unmaintained status of fuzzyocr? > > Not directly. As many pkgs as possible are built from ports, > irrespective of who the maintainers are. An unmaintained port is > however less likely to have any issues attended to promptly. > > If you want to see exactly why no pkg exists, use portsmon: > > > http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portoverview.py?category=mail&portname=p5-FuzzyOcr > > and the reason is that the graphics/giflib port -- one of the > dependencies -- failed to work properly. On 9.0-RELEASE it shows the > problem is to do with XML validation, and there's an open PR about that > which is assigned to the graphics/giflib maintainer. There should be a > fix fairly soon. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 15:20:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6975C106566C for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:20:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (feld.me [66.170.3.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E0238FC19 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:20:35 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Cc:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=ALgxLLDFr3esbJdW9WeBHGJeJNxZbXvaiEbqZqZXHLc=; b=AqW3IS4WHh+QjS6/XO77utko41Pk9E9Ns7o4GZsaNtRJC6LsbCe0WAOUqrgpFfvL/HL6M4GgnMD1LmoPtbCEAJsQarZFPbY8HHrbeNSAbtplAkCZm7gwjNiwOv3ccHCW; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Seolh-000DmZ-Ed; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:42:02 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1339598511-26372-26371/5/71; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:41:51 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:41:51 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: grarpamp@gmail.com Subject: Re: Many open branches = excess FreeBSD project work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:20:35 -0000 On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 02:08:12 -0500, wrote: > - S RELENG_8_2 > - S RELENG_8_1 > - G RELENG_7 > - S RELENG_7_4 These are all going away soon. Don't worry. :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 16:39:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D28106566C for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:39:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sean.page@epsb.ca) Received: from OWA01.EDU.epsb.ca (owa01.epsb.ca [198.161.119.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C46298FC0A for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Exchange26.EDU.epsb.ca ([10.0.5.123]) by OWA01.EDU.epsb.ca with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:38:52 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:39:46 -0600 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0128_01CD4950.B96AFBE0" Message-ID: <529374128DC1B04D9D037911B8E8F053156619D3@Exchange26.EDU.epsb.ca> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: freebsd-update problem Thread-Index: Ac1JgwPoOvLgY8rUSaWPBpuzYyRzkQ== From: "Sean Page" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jun 2012 16:38:52.0212 (UTC) FILETIME=[041C4F40:01CD4983] X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: freebsd-update problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:39:59 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0128_01CD4950.B96AFBE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Hopefully a simple problem with a simple solution. Trying to update a server using freebsd-update, but when I try I get the following: # freebsd-update fetch install Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 8.3-RELEASE from update5.FreeBSD.org... invalid signature. Fetching metadata signature for 8.3-RELEASE from update4.FreeBSD.org... invalid signature. Fetching metadata signature for 8.3-RELEASE from update3.FreeBSD.org... invalid signature. No mirrors remaining, giving up. FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE #0: Mon Apr 9 21:23:18 UTC 2012 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 root mount ZFS I used freebsd-update to upgrade from 8.2 to 8.3 so it's worked in the past, and 4 other servers (running different versions) updated successfully. The key in my conf file is the same as the other servers and I don't have anything in the log files to indicate a problem. Probably missing something stupid but, any suggestions? Thanks in advance! Sean. 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"freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:34:13 -0400 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20120613183414.CE84B106566C@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: FreeBSD 8.3 + MySQL 5.0.95 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:34:14 -0000 Hi, I upgrade to FreeBSD 8.3-p3 and installed MySQL 5.0.95 from ports. It runs fine until it dies silently. Does anyone run a heavy loaded MySQL under such setup? how can I troubleshoot this? I could never compile a stable MySQL server from the ports and always relied on MySQL community server binaries but there is no binary for latest 5.0.xx Thank you! Simon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 18:43:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D406106578B for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:43:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 27A318FC14 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:43:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 16876 invoked by uid 110); 13 Jun 2012 18:43:24 -0000 Received: from ool-4571afe7.dyn.optonline.net (HELO desktop1) (simon@optinet.com@69.113.175.231) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2012 18:43:24 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "Chuck Swiger" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:43:29 -0400 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;3) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20120613184325.9D406106578B@hub.freebsd.org> Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.3 + MySQL 5.0.95 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:43:25 -0000 Possible but extremely unlikely, I always had issues whenever I tried to build MySQL server myself. The hardware where this is running has been very stable. I don't have any issues whatsoever making world, etc... There is no segfault which is what usually happens when you have memory issues. And why would MySQL community server run stable if it was somehow my hardware? Bottom line, if this was hardware issue, the server would have paniced long ago. I wish I could get some input from someone running MySQL server with 300+ queries a second and what MySQL version/build they are running. -Simon On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:36:48 -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: >On Jun 13, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Simon wrote: >> I upgrade to FreeBSD 8.3-p3 and installed MySQL 5.0.95 from ports. >> >> It runs fine until it dies silently. Does anyone run a heavy loaded MySQL >> under such setup? how can I troubleshoot this? >> >> I could never compile a stable MySQL server from the ports and always >> relied on MySQL community server binaries but there is no binary for >> latest 5.0.xx >This sounds like marginal hardware which is failing under load. Make >sure you can run something like memtest86 or prime95 overnight without >errors.... >Regards, >-- >-Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 18:57:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A211065673 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:57:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com (nk11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com [17.158.161.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B118FC14 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:57:33 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (unknown [17.209.4.71]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01(7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0M5K004FKKNQYA70@nk11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:57:27 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-06-13_06:2012-06-13, 2012-06-13, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1206130186 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <0M5K00IAFK0DQGR0@st11b01mm-smtpin204.mac.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:57:25 -0700 Message-id: <6F47A2B6-C9FE-47AC-848F-FF3BC5D06373@mac.com> References: <0M5K00IAFK0DQGR0@st11b01mm-smtpin204.mac.com> To: Simon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.3 + MySQL 5.0.95 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:57:33 -0000 On Jun 13, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Simon wrote: > Possible but extremely unlikely, I always had issues whenever I tried to build > MySQL server myself. That by itself is interesting. > The hardware where this is running has been very > stable. I don't have any issues whatsoever making world, etc... A make world is a decent stress test, but it doesn't take long enough on modern hardware to reliably uncover problems. > There is no segfault which is what usually happens when you have memory > issues. And why would MySQL community server run stable if it was somehow > my hardware? Bottom line, if this was hardware issue, the server would have > paniced long ago. > > I wish I could get some input from someone running MySQL server with 300+ > queries a second and what MySQL version/build they are running. By all means-- while I'm quite familiar with busy databases, folks aren't running MySQL for that kind of TPS load. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 19:17:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B307D106566C for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:17:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AF58FC12 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:17:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5DJHkVb072632 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:17:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id q5DJHkb6072627 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:17:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:17:46 -0400 (EDT) From: doug To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:17:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Many open branches = excess FreeBSD project work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: doug@safeport.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:17:52 -0000 On Wed, 13 Jun 2012, Mark Felder wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 02:08:12 -0500, wrote: > >> - S RELENG_8_2 >> - S RELENG_8_1 >> - G RELENG_7 >> - S RELENG_7_4 > > These are all going away soon. Don't worry. :-) I hope that does not mean we will not be able to [re]build older versions. No one [me anyway] would expect older branches to be maintained but I do hope they would remain available. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 19:24:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA051065678 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:24:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C7C38FC0A for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:24:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19706 invoked by uid 110); 13 Jun 2012 19:24:23 -0000 Received: from ool-4571afe7.dyn.optonline.net (HELO desktop1) (simon@optinet.com@69.113.175.231) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2012 19:24:23 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "Chuck Swiger" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:24:28 -0400 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;3) In-Reply-To: <6F47A2B6-C9FE-47AC-848F-FF3BC5D06373@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20120613192424.DBA051065678@hub.freebsd.org> Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.3 + MySQL 5.0.95 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:24:25 -0000 >> I wish I could get some input from someone running MySQL server with 300+ >> queries a second and what MySQL version/build they are running. >By all means-- while I'm quite familiar with busy databases, folks aren't running >MySQL for that kind of TPS load. Why not? it is designed precisely for this. Like I said, whenever I used MySQL project community server built binaries, I never had it crash. Right now I'm thinking: 1. the port build of 5.0.95 does something incorrectly. 2. it's running out of memory (FreeBSD's kernel still does not report out of memory errors for processes if it kills them; there is no way to know if kernel killed a process due to memory limit, it does not log this) 3. it's hitting some kind of 5.0.95 bug Maybe I'm contacting wrong mailling list, I can't seem to get ahold of ISP/hosting guys on this list. Truly amazing that for a server OS, there is so little input for something like MySQL server. Perhaps everyone else is still using text files, does 10TPS, or runs linux, don't know what to make of it :\ -Simon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 19:32:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B53106566B for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:32:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CDA48FC18 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:32:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5DJW9ah077552; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:32:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id q5DJW9B3077548; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:32:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:32:09 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org To: Simon In-Reply-To: <20120613192424.DBA051065678@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: References: <20120613192424.DBA051065678@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:32:10 -0400 (EDT) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.3 + MySQL 5.0.95 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: doug@fledge.watson.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:32:10 -0000 On Wed, 13 Jun 2012, Simon wrote: >>> I wish I could get some input from someone running MySQL server with 300+ >>> queries a second and what MySQL version/build they are running. > >> By all means-- while I'm quite familiar with busy databases, folks aren't running >> MySQL for that kind of TPS load. > > > Why not? it is designed precisely for this. Like I said, whenever I used MySQL > project community server built binaries, I never had it crash. > > Right now I'm thinking: > > 1. the port build of 5.0.95 does something incorrectly. > 2. it's running out of memory (FreeBSD's kernel still does not report out of memory > errors for processes if it kills them; there is no way to know if kernel killed a process > due to memory limit, it does not log this) > 3. it's hitting some kind of 5.0.95 bug > > Maybe I'm contacting wrong mailling list, I can't seem to get ahold of ISP/hosting guys > on this list. Truly amazing that for a server OS, there is so little input for something like > MySQL server. Perhaps everyone else is still using text files, does 10TPS, or runs > linux, don't know what to make of it :\ try mysql@lists.mysql.com - when I was an utter newbie they were quite helpful and tolerant. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 19:36:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B91106566C for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:36:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp007.mac.com (nk11p00mm-asmtp007.mac.com [17.158.161.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4338A8FC0A for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:36:59 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (unknown [17.209.4.71]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp007.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01(7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0M5K0022AJPDVE20@nk11p00mm-asmtp007.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:36:50 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-06-13_06:2012-06-13, 2012-06-13, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1206130186 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <20120613183414.CE84B106566C@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:36:48 -0700 Message-id: References: <20120613183414.CE84B106566C@hub.freebsd.org> To: Simon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.3 + MySQL 5.0.95 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:36:59 -0000 On Jun 13, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Simon wrote: > I upgrade to FreeBSD 8.3-p3 and installed MySQL 5.0.95 from ports. > > It runs fine until it dies silently. Does anyone run a heavy loaded MySQL > under such setup? how can I troubleshoot this? > > I could never compile a stable MySQL server from the ports and always > relied on MySQL community server binaries but there is no binary for > latest 5.0.xx This sounds like marginal hardware which is failing under load. Make sure you can run something like memtest86 or prime95 overnight without errors.... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 20:06:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26013106564A for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A593C8FC1B for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:06:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBF61D.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.246.29]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q5DK6ZXZ077632; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:06:36 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5DK6O1u055884; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:06:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5DK6CVp018788; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:06:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201206132006.q5DK6CVp018788@fire.js.berklix.net> To: "Simon" From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:24:28 EDT." <20120613192424.DBA051065678@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:06:12 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.3 + MySQL 5.0.95 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:06:38 -0000 > Maybe I'm contacting wrong mailling list, I can't seem to get ahold of ISP/hosting guys > on this list. Truly amazing that for a server OS, there is so little input for something like > MySQL server. Perhaps everyone else is still using text files, does 10TPS, or runs > linux, don't know what to make of it :\ > > -Simon Yes you too are using the wrong list. The questions@ list was created to catch FreeBSD newbies, somewhere to point /etc/motd at. ( It's evolved to also deal with _some_ more complex issues 'cos some on questions@ failed to move on, & post more complex non beginner issues to the maybe 50+ or more specialist lists. ) Examples for this topic might include: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org freebsd-database@freebsd.org freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org freebsd-performance@freebsd.org See http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo Just 2 clicks from http://freebsd.org/ Sad how many people don't look, & dump all on questions@, breaking the whole point of having 50+ different themed FreeBSD lists. Those only using questions@ _Please_ realise there are other lists. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo Read the remits of the other lists & subscribe &/or post those lists that match your topic. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 20:17:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BA7106566C for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com (nk11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com [17.158.161.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0678FC18 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:17:57 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (unknown [17.209.4.71]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01(7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0M5K008CSODO4Y50@nk11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:17:50 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-06-13_06:2012-06-13, 2012-06-13, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1206130209 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <0M5K00F1HLWOQI90@st11b01mm-smtpin207.mac.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:17:47 -0700 Message-id: References: <0M5K00F1HLWOQI90@st11b01mm-smtpin207.mac.com> To: Simon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.3 + MySQL 5.0.95 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:17:57 -0000 On Jun 13, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Simon wrote: >>> I wish I could get some input from someone running MySQL server with 300+ >>> queries a second and what MySQL version/build they are running. > >> By all means-- while I'm quite familiar with busy databases, folks aren't running >> MySQL for that kind of TPS load. > > > Why not? it is designed precisely for this. That depends on workload. Table-level or page-level locking is fine for read-only or read-mostly; it wasn't until InnoDB storage that MySQL had row-level locking, which is kinda important when you *aren't* read-mostly. > Like I said, whenever I used MySQL > project community server built binaries, I never had it crash. But the process from these "community server built binaries" went away, right? > Right now I'm thinking: > > 1. the port build of 5.0.95 does something incorrectly. > 2. it's running out of memory (FreeBSD's kernel still does not report out of memory > errors for processes if it kills them; there is no way to know if kernel killed a process > due to memory limit, it does not log this) > 3. it's hitting some kind of 5.0.95 bug The program termination ought to log something, at least if you enable logging or have a monitor in place which can see mysqld's error status; even mysqld_safe ought to take --log-error flag.... > Maybe I'm contacting wrong mailling list, I can't seem to get ahold of ISP/hosting guys > on this list. Truly amazing that for a server OS, there is so little input for something like > MySQL server. Perhaps everyone else is still using text files, does 10TPS, or runs > linux, don't know what to make of it :\ That's likely to be a valid point; freebsd-ports would be appropriate for discussing the build problems with mysql port. freebsd-isp has a different population oriented towards hosting provider issues etc that you've mentioned. However, I can assure you that some folks here on freebsd-questions do deal with more than 10TPS. :-) Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 20:33:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B3F106564A for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C5E138FC0C for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:33:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25295 invoked by uid 110); 13 Jun 2012 20:33:46 -0000 Received: from ool-4571afe7.dyn.optonline.net (HELO desktop1) (simon@optinet.com@69.113.175.231) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2012 20:33:46 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "Julian H. Stacey" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:33:51 -0400 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;3) In-Reply-To: <201206132006.q5DK6CVp018788@fire.js.berklix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20120613203348.35B3F106564A@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.3 + MySQL 5.0.95 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:33:48 -0000 >Yes you too are using the wrong list. >The questions@ list was created to catch FreeBSD newbies, >somewhere to point /etc/motd at. > ( It's evolved to also deal with _some_ more complex issues > 'cos some on questions@ failed to move on, & post more > complex non beginner issues to the maybe 50+ or more > specialist lists. ) >Examples for this topic might include: > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > freebsd-database@freebsd.org > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org > freebsd-performance@freebsd.org >See > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo >Just 2 clicks from > http://freebsd.org/ >Sad how many people don't look, & dump all on questions@, >breaking the whole point of having 50+ different themed FreeBSD lists. >Those only using questions@ _Please_ realise there are other lists. > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo >Read the remits of the other lists & subscribe &/or post those lists >that match your topic. >Cheers, >Julian >-- Thanks Julian. The reason for freebsd-questions is because when I looked thru isp, database, and performance, and few others, they had one or two threads a month with barely much input. I figured I would reach more people on this list. The reason why I didn't use freebsd-hackers is because I thought perhaps this was somewhat trivial, like I was overlooking something, but I guess not. Next time I'll just use that list instead. I think it would be my best bet. -Simon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 20:42:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C7D1065670 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:42:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (feld.me [66.170.3.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2978FC20 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:42:59 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Cc:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=t4JyCv+iW8ehhZd1r1KvE2odiDwGbmhXx08lhyXsJoM=; b=UYDxHRs5WvZZkBo347vAlgpBoyKWb/ZqQKYiYcoKRPtK1CJa4uYwM1qNcorf4nolCog0uqDkQNaGqperP3PVQF0KZUdFDRdNyEJhvc3H94TAu1GvkhVaup1LBbCJrgL+; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SeuP3-000Oer-B3; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:42:58 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1339620171-26372-26371/5/72; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:42:51 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20120613183414.CE84B106566C@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:42:51 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20120613183414.CE84B106566C@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: simon@optinet.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.3 + MySQL 5.0.95 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:42:59 -0000 Can you repeat this issue with MariaDB? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 20:46:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A561065673 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:46:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D418FC1C for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBEFB3.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.239.179]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q5DKkERB079452 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:46:15 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5DKk3FI056047 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:46:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5DKjvw3020347 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:46:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201206132046.q5DKjvw3020347@fire.js.berklix.net> To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:06:12 +0200." <201206132006.q5DK6CVp018788@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:45:57 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.3 + MySQL 5.0.95 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:46:23 -0000 > Those only using questions@ _Please_ realise there are other lists. > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo > Read the remits of the other lists & subscribe &/or post those lists > that match your topic. PS All credit & thanks to a few highly skilled & informed people on questions@ who regularly contribute good advice helping newcomers. Just that many Was-once-a-beginner should start to think: "I've been using FreeBSD a while now, I'm no longer just a newbie to cluelessly use just questions@, I should look at what other FreeBSD lists there are." Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 20:59:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBDAA106567E for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:59:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A128FC1D for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:59:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBEFB3.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.239.179]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q5DKxPKI080070; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:59:26 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5DKxEM0056106; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:59:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5DKx2id020906; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:59:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201206132059.q5DKx2id020906@fire.js.berklix.net> To: "Simon" From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:33:51 EDT." <20120613203348.35B3F106564A@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:59:02 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.3 + MySQL 5.0.95 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:59:27 -0000 Hi Simon > Thanks Julian. The reason for freebsd-questions is because when I looked > thru isp, database, and performance, and few others, they had one or two > threads a month with barely much input. Yup, isp@ is quiet, some other lists too, doesn't necessarily mean there'snot good people listening, though I suspect total sub. # on isp@ might be low. > I figured I would reach more people > on this list. Certainly lots, but some specialist lists have good people listening, & less troll noise than lately on questions@. > The reason why I didn't use freebsd-hackers is because I thought > perhaps this was somewhat trivial, like I was overlooking something, but I > guess not. Next time I'll just use that list instead. I think it would be my best bet. Welcome to hackers@ & the rest :-) PS The one list I periodicaly notice is not quite there, & or a handbook entry either I think, is something for all of us who periodically suspect a machine is maybe a bit sick, & want to give it a damn good thrashing to test it. Well, complex issue, & "how long is a piece of string ?" but there's performance@ & ports@ for ideas & tools etc. Good luck. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 21:18:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB471065670 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:18:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594A68FC0C for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:18:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Set4T-0005VS-BK for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:17:37 +0200 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:17:37 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:17:37 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:17:20 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:13.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/13.0) Subject: Re: Lost /var/db/pkg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:18:13 -0000 William Orr worrbase.com> writes: > > Hello, > > I had a hard disk failure some time ago, and I ended up losing > /var/db/pkg/ and everything under it (before you say I should've been > backing it up, I know, I was actually doing an initial full when this > happened). Is there a way I can restore it, or at least manually add > entries I know for sure about? forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=6466 "The application themselves are still installed and will keep functioning, you just removed the records of their installation. When you later install newer versions, you may have to use a force flag to overwrite files (the port thinks it is uninstalled after all). The new port installations will get recorded in /var/db/pkg again.' jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 21:26:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF56106566C for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842878FC0C for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:26:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [213.111.71.69]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 709375AD4 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:58:34 +0400 (MSK) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:58:21 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120613185821.GB5800@external.screwed.box> References: <20120613184325.9D406106578B@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120613184325.9D406106578B@hub.freebsd.org> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.3 + MySQL 5.0.95 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:26:43 -0000 Hello. 2012/06/13 14:43:29 -0400 Simon => To Chuck Swiger : S> There is no segfault which is what usually happens when you have memory then there is the daemon's log... -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E26627 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 21:27:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185FF106564A for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:27:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-gh0-f182.google.com (mail-gh0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE368FC1F for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbz22 with SMTP id z22so996671ghb.13 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:27:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=FPfL+qsRYwKfBFoGyUqNLCflMUhBwmFGXXFanAUvDSg=; b=gmI6x9BD0PA42vkPGakxlGHB2nbHycTVVt/hpKq90ltsAziIOf3SjYgxvPbknCdOpi 2SnqfA3wsD0qGEhtWWiuIzQiu6CAoEDkxRyfiah5voZ0I/XaGnMlDwpNLVgJdr8Hr+Oz ys4ZO51/nM9AKpRacxAnl5gs+g2yDJ21yipKI= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=FPfL+qsRYwKfBFoGyUqNLCflMUhBwmFGXXFanAUvDSg=; b=MluHIeYayGJ3amFI7AbUvPxk3PDOKa1O8twApwStarrkQxS3r3UvRaOa9ZW1yML01d O4ZnDAgevWYVRno5WTRxBlZm7WnkcG7n+bdY1rST6UjSBU2KowxQCV0Q9raT2MPulnTd nReWqe9036vnzvCLbekUA0+CNHiv4+cdmNx6Qid5XmBHz+XvCKM8SPzTDAzJWDNdN6oY h1/kpsxpWPrtN9LT5TvrQWwXc3422SG9q6Zde1CSDoW5ly7Ntlu7LUBM5I5MfSl5WrVy kxeMlSCGyYtLT+sMp4chtqdS4BJJE62wY9mWIOG8FCLHoAN6RwSUoygSqc4SF55kqewX uIYQ== Received: by 10.60.1.165 with SMTP id 5mr25872386oen.36.1339622842003; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:27:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.204.69 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:26:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:26:51 -0700 Message-ID: To: jb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnjrpHXiCL8vyY8pNwiVjtTT0coF5Ec4r1SewQzZwM1OqvNTF8ChVvnaWyX+8MpFAVMAXzp Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lost /var/db/pkg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:27:23 -0000 On 13 June 2012 12:17, jb wrote: > William Orr worrbase.com> writes: > >> >> Hello, >> >> I had a hard disk failure some time ago, and I ended up losing >> /var/db/pkg/ and everything under it (before you say I should've been >> backing it up, I know, I was actually doing an initial full when this >> happened). Is there a way I can restore it, or at least manually add >> entries I know for sure about? > > forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=6466 > "The application themselves are still installed and will keep functioning, you > just removed the records of their installation. When you later install newer > versions, you may have to use a force flag to overwrite files (the port thinks > it is uninstalled after all). The new port installations will get recorded in > /var/db/pkg again.' > > jb This will work if you need minimal downtime, but *will* come back to bite you some time down the line. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 21:41:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE20B106566C for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:41:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72A78FC08 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:41:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [85.17.177.73]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 007135A82 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:23:35 +0400 (MSK) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:23:25 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120613202325.GC5800@external.screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: `ls -l` shows size of file other than of the folder? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:41:43 -0000 Hello. I have the directory in the file system with 2 regular files each of which is sized as 700M according to 'ls -l'. But the torrent client and 'du -s' and 'ls -l's 'total' show that the directory size is 300M. How can that be? Are there different file sizes stored on a ufs1 in their metadata? ot the least how could I see the 'real' size of each of those files, both ~150M actulally, with a system command? Thank you. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E26627 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 22:35:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82724106566C for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:35:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weif@weif.net) Received: from maxwell.cjones.org (mail.cjones.org [69.146.226.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DED88FC12 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:35:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by maxwell.cjones.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id E3DCC6C731; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:35:51 -0600 (MDT) From: Keith Seyffarth To: George Liaskos In-Reply-To: (message from George Liaskos on Tue, 12 Jun 2012 01:55:13 +0300) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:35:51 -0600 Message-ID: <84d352j0vs.fsf@maxwell.cjones.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chromium 19 core dumps on launch... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: weif@weif.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:35:58 -0000 George Liaskos writes: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Keith Seyffarth wrote: >> >> Friday I installed Chromium again because it would be nice to have a >> browser to test in other than Firefox and Opera. It was installed using >> portinstall -R chromium, which *appeared* to function properly. >> >> However, trying to run chrome results in: >> pid 50993 (chrome), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) >> >> >From what I found online, it looked like I may have been encountering an >> issue with devel/google-perftools, but on reinstall was able to confirm >> that this is building with gcc not clang. >> >> I have also removed my ~/.config/chromium directory with no change in >> behavior. >> >> >> >> Not sure if it's relevant, but the last version of Chromium that was >> *functional* for me was 12. Versions 13-16 didn't support loading web >> pages (the browser would launch, but if I entered a URL in the address >> bar, I could leave the browser running overnight and it still wouldn't >> have started loading a page). Then when 17 and 18 wouldn't even compile >> (marked ignore), I just removed package. > > Please try 19.0.1084.56_1, devel/google-perftools is not a dependency > of chromium anymore. Thanks, George. Upgrading from chromium-19.0.1084.52_2 to chromium-19.0.1084.56_1 (and removing google-perftools) will allow Chromium to launch. However, it can't load many pages. For example: http://tools.google.com/chrome/intl/en/welcome.html http://www.alexa.com/ https://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1270364&p=e_deadjim http://www.atlatl.com/ https://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=95669&p=e_awsnap chrome://chrome/settings/ and http://www.mariahschallenge.com/ eventually give a "the page has become unresponsive" error. But pages like: http://www.amazon.com/ http://www.google.com/ http://www.firsttankguide.net/ and http://www.visitphilipsburg.com/ load right away. Also, when you close the browser, either by closing the last tab, closing the window, or selecting "Exit" from the tools menu, it doesn't release memory or terminate the process, it just gets rid of the window... It looks like the process hangs around until you kill it. I've tried deleting the profile files again as well, with the same response. Any further ideas? Keith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 22:55:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD2E1065670 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp008.mac.com (nk11p00mm-asmtp008.mac.com [17.158.161.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2638FC08 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:55:54 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (unknown [17.209.4.71]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp008.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01(7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0M5K0098LSW12S80@nk11p00mm-asmtp008.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:55:29 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-06-13_07:2012-06-13, 2012-06-13, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1206130238 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <20120613202325.GC5800@external.screwed.box> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:55:12 -0700 Message-id: <1D62BA9B-7B6A-4313-B73F-0C7C695B7211@mac.com> References: <20120613202325.GC5800@external.screwed.box> To: Peter Vereshagin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: `ls -l` shows size of file other than of the folder? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:55:54 -0000 Hi-- On Jun 13, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Peter Vereshagin wrote: > I have the directory in the file system with 2 regular files each of which is > sized as 700M according to 'ls -l'. But the torrent client and 'du -s' and 'ls > -l's 'total' show that the directory size is 300M. > > How can that be? Are there different file sizes stored on a ufs1 in their > metadata? It's very likely that these are sparse files. Your torrent client creates a file of the appropriate size via fseek()/lseek() or similar, but the space isn't actually consumed until it writes the data it is obtaining from the network.... Random link: http://www.unixguide.net/unix/sparse_file.shtml Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 23:10:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D203C1065670 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:10:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618338FC08 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:10:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so1092550wer.13 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:10:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=poq0gJaTlyy9udwoUDBkhA+tv/E8Zz9EzNrpIGhkNyo=; b=OZ4JV61YwzawvR/VQ57F2xjT1FIFGyOvnYHU3jsw5Xa5Yvy0JLFxuzQk14AtGPgTe5 pyR6EQtqK8aDXn1PcmI0lRSScXc3DGvVihNgTeTXQvtN8UQwW6PgGr+bkA/SbXVBz0Fu khlA1pN/cJOK9QIiSIR0G59B5QDgE9qMWnB33/xCkpCkp4MdZ/rTIr8xRtVEDYuJ2+E7 4HaBdMj4Hf1PBGOJ/mWpzHQVfDJ0NhXsekH5y8oHiw2BREN3Gh2EY/5vfvW9jpuZf9gk OrKIF66WghSdanRnssK6/bdxPOdx7GG8OvY3G+Q4rIZLmeI8THt4SPPzf6/OeGAQ3jgD ykdw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.78.161 with SMTP id c1mr737146wix.1.1339629036189; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:10:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.138.220 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:10:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:10:36 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Lost /var/db/pkg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:10:37 -0000 On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: > On 13 June 2012 12:17, jb wrote: > > William Orr worrbase.com> writes: > > > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> I had a hard disk failure some time ago, and I ended up losing > >> /var/db/pkg/ and everything under it (before you say I should've been > >> backing it up, I know, I was actually doing an initial full when this > >> happened). Is there a way I can restore it, or at least manually add > >> entries I know for sure about? > > > > forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=6466 > > "The application themselves are still installed and will keep > functioning, you > > just removed the records of their installation. When you later install > newer > > versions, you may have to use a force flag to overwrite files (the port > thinks > > it is uninstalled after all). The new port installations will get > recorded in > > /var/db/pkg again.' > > > > jb > > This will work if you need minimal downtime, but *will* come back to > bite you some time down the line. > > > -- > Eitan Adler > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > you could cross reference the package .tbz files with what's on your system. ie, tar -ztvf apache-2.2.22_5.tbz shows you what's in /usr/local/bin, etc. Might even be able to focus on man pages only to get an xref index. I believe the files for /var/db/pkg are in the tbz files. if you didn't keep your system up to date it might be trouble matching versions, but you could get the list and see what's what, or at least have a good idea of what _was_ installed. I haven't tried but you could stick the 'current' files for /var/db/pkg from tbz, matching what's installed - regardless of the 'new' version and actual version installed, then to a pkg_delete --force then pkg_add .tbz . it might complain about missing files but will 'prolly function. If you have like 700-1000+ packages it might be worth the trouble. A thought :) Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 23:14:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27A3106564A for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:14:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Dave.Robison@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6551E8FC08 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:14:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.31]) by ltcfislmsgpa04.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5DNAhci022685 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:14:04 -0500 Received: from lefty.vicor.com (10.14.152.58) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.31) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.283.3; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:12:32 -0500 Message-ID: <4FD91E5F.6040502@fisglobal.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:12:31 -0700 From: "Robison, Dave" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120209 Thunderbird/10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.58] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855, 1.0.260, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-06-13_08:2012-06-13, 2012-06-13, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Subject: Re: Lost /var/db/pkg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: david.robison@fisglobal.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:14:10 -0000 On 06/13/2012 16:10, Waitman Gobble wrote: > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: > >> On 13 June 2012 12:17, jb wrote: >>> William Orr worrbase.com> writes: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I had a hard disk failure some time ago, and I ended up losing >>>> /var/db/pkg/ and everything under it (before you say I should've been >>>> backing it up, I know, I was actually doing an initial full when this >>>> happened). Is there a way I can restore it, or at least manually add >>>> entries I know for sure about? >>> forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=6466 >>> "The application themselves are still installed and will keep >> functioning, you >>> just removed the records of their installation. When you later install >> newer >>> versions, you may have to use a force flag to overwrite files (the port >> thinks >>> it is uninstalled after all). The new port installations will get >> recorded in >>> /var/db/pkg again.' >>> >>> jb >> This will work if you need minimal downtime, but *will* come back to >> bite you some time down the line. >> >> >> -- >> Eitan Adler >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > you could cross reference the package .tbz files with what's on your > system. > > ie, tar -ztvf apache-2.2.22_5.tbz > shows you what's in /usr/local/bin, etc. Might even be able to focus on man > pages only to get an xref index. > > I believe the files for /var/db/pkg are in the tbz files. > if you didn't keep your system up to date it might be trouble matching > versions, but you could get the list and see what's what, or at least have > a good idea of what _was_ installed. > I haven't tried but you could stick the 'current' files for /var/db/pkg > from tbz, matching what's installed - regardless of the 'new' version and > actual version installed, then to a pkg_delete --force then pkg_add .tbz . > it might complain about missing files but will 'prolly function. > If you have like 700-1000+ packages it might be worth the trouble. > > A thought :) > > Waitman Gobble > San Jose California USA > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > locate /var/db/pkg Might show you what was there recently... ls /usr/ports/distfiles might also go a long way toward showing you what you once had installed. apologies if these were previously mentioned. -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) daver@vicor.com david.robison@fisglobal.com _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 23:19:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D271065673 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:19:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qc0-f182.google.com (mail-qc0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A8A8FC19 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:19:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qcsg15 with SMTP id g15so806213qcs.13 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:19:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XQ5ahv2u1jfu+NcSlhJd+p6DmdzEqlLf15a1t1Pzp6c=; b=Lnr09rL3cskw/0hTYo/kMxsCCGqF+TFjvtY6vZfkYnRLxSAtywXoLLIS3AUZhRUDjm 67fkqU2YeCJ2QEEvYjyoS6vtT/2wrTssVY6kQvIjCgZxtwk4gLwdBrLf130ENDFaMhC1 k6zNUsjWcUx+L9gLwtKHO5vVIj4Je45KkwtVmMr8u0aR768iocG5vV+1dL+EPl5FWK5B M+sTd1Maqq4d8qGF8S717nzp+mJwu88BxD9U3O8ErpnpxhyU/X7DzpU7apgOqfUcJ8k0 MFa8FRaxpC6VRNXrz9GDYFNIurXEowei3/mlKdlWUOZHYYvqivRZo3TU1keKCGY1oNo6 G+dw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.136.68 with SMTP id q4mr11578803qct.71.1339629546189; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.184.84 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:19:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120613202325.GC5800@external.screwed.box> References: <20120613202325.GC5800@external.screwed.box> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:19:06 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Peter Vereshagin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: `ls -l` shows size of file other than of the folder? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:19:07 -0000 On 13 June 2012 16:23, Peter Vereshagin wrote: > Hello. > > I have the directory in the file system with 2 regular files each =A0of = =A0which =A0is > sized as 700M according to 'ls -l'. =A0But the torrent client and 'du -s'= and =A0'ls > -l's 'total' show that the directory size is 300M. > > How can that be? =A0Are there different file sizes =A0stored =A0on =A0a = =A0ufs1 =A0in =A0their > metadata? > > ot the least how could I see the 'real' size of each of those files, both= =A0~150M > actulally, with a system command? > The -s flag to ls(1) will show you the actual number of blocks in use (I believe it honours BLOCKSIZE, though you might want to check). --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 23:23:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296C6106566B for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:23:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DFB8FC0A for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:23:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SewuE-0004ND-Qw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 01:23:18 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 01:23:18 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 01:23:18 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <201206120506.q5C56L2H026673@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120612190629.6a45cb11.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:23:22 -0000 On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:21:31 -0500, Dan Lists wrote: > The syntax of his crontab file is correct. Vixie cron does care about > leading spaces, tabs, extra spaces, or leading zeros. Earlier versions > of cron are much pickier about the crontab file. The cron logs show > that it is starting his jobs at the correct times. > > It is far more likely that there is a problem with the scripts. A very > common cause of problems with scripts run from cron is that they do not > inherit your environment. Do the scripts run from the command line? > If the do, then the problem is most likely something in your environment > that the scripts need. I'm a complete idiot, and I feel embarrassed. Everything was fine, except that I had missed out '/bin' in the paths of the jobs. I had: /home/walterh/exports.sh /home/walterh/backup_etc.sh /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh /home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh which should of course have been: /home/walterh/bin/exports.sh /home/walterh/bin/backup_etc.sh /home/walterh/bin/systemcheck.sh /home/walterh/bin/backup_bsd.sh What a stupid mistake! Thanks for all the replies, but I must say sorry for wasting your time. Sorry! WH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 23:23:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F09106566C for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:23:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442C08FC16 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:23:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SewuF-0004O1-5z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 01:23:19 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-82-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.82.23]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 01:23:19 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-82-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 01:23:19 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:23:32 -0400 Lines: 88 Message-ID: References: <20120613184325.9D406106578B@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-82-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.3 + MySQL 5.0.95 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:23:22 -0000 Simon wrote: Hint: Please learn to not top post. It makes it more difficult to arrange answers coherently. > Possible but extremely unlikely, I always had issues whenever I tried to > build MySQL server myself. The hardware where this is running has been > very stable. I don't have any issues whatsoever making world, etc... > > There is no segfault which is what usually happens when you have memory > issues. And why would MySQL community server run stable if it was somehow > my hardware? Bottom line, if this was hardware issue, the server would > have paniced long ago. > > I wish I could get some input from someone running MySQL server with 300+ > queries a second and what MySQL version/build they are running. > > -Simon > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:36:48 -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: > >>On Jun 13, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Simon wrote: >>> I upgrade to FreeBSD 8.3-p3 and installed MySQL 5.0.95 from ports. >>> >>> It runs fine until it dies silently. Does anyone run a heavy loaded >>> MySQL under such setup? how can I troubleshoot this? >>> >>> I could never compile a stable MySQL server from the ports and always >>> relied on MySQL community server binaries but there is no binary for >>> latest 5.0.xx > >>This sounds like marginal hardware which is failing under load. Make >>sure you can run something like memtest86 or prime95 overnight without >>errors.... > I don't know about 300+ queries per second, but I have been running MySQL since version 3.x.x, and so on, without much difficulty. It has been very stable for me for many years. Hardware related problems can be a cause of general flakiness one person can see while many, many others do not experience. Can be things such as old, weak, under rated power supply that has poor regulation and excessive ripple under load. This can actually resemble RAM problems at times, because with things like memtest there will be failures. It can be other things as well, such as a disk controller running a driver that has a bug. Rather than ramble through myriad possibilities, a general rule I've noticed over many years of dealing with computers: Hardware is often involved when the problem is very random, while when you can reproduce a specific error condition repeatedly by executing a set of commands or instructions in particular and specific order it is software related. I also question why you would want to run such an old version. Particularly I am aware that versions 5.0.50 and 5.0.51 contain several serious bugs. I run the latest version of the 5.1.xx branch, with an eye to moving towards 5.5.xx very soon. I have always compiled from the ports system. I have also tuned my.cnf according to the examples and the documentation recommendations. One of the first things you should look at is what about the compilation process on your machine is producing your flaky, crashy binaries. Using a GCC from ports?, CLANG?, remove any so-called 'optimizations' from your make.conf, etc. In the make config for building MySQL do _not_ select the 'build optimized binaries' choice (which sets -O3 optimization) and see if that makes a difference. I have used the -O3 in my builds for many years and never had a problem. Circle outwards in looking at OS tuning. An example would be vmstat -i, looking for a piece of hardware with a run away interrupt storm. Other things like IPC, SYSVSHM, Semaphores, and other such structure pools looking for resource starvation. If hardware proves not to be central to the problem, see if you can arrange a way to _not_ load it so heavily. If it runs at a lower load without crashing it might indicate you need some tuning. I would look at the hardware very hard. I would look at how you are building the compilation. I would also _not_ use this version, but rather at least 5.1.x and preferably (especially if this is a new start up) look at trying the latest in the 5.5.xx series. The 5.5.xx is supposed to offer better performance, and maybe with your 300+ per second query rate maybe you should focus on the version with the best performance. Bottom line: Many thousands of people and companies have run MySQL for many years and had it work just fine. Your particular situation is an aberration of some form. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 23:38:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00049106564A for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:38:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8326E8FC15 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:38:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhj8 with SMTP id hj8so4756280wib.13 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:38:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yi6TtiWnsXualp5oON8V84wq8rZigP2+W+f2NwZJjTk=; b=L/Dsf8rhHIguDfmb3u5K4NkdTtOO+vPiqYrrT0etcGCIXEDb5spkNwbkd9Q0j1HCNI sfF2RvuelAnsG3KLqZPWWW7mphJB0Rker/dIgVncoFFFH98V+OZoFGMCEtDfkb/2LLtN uLeYuufqOyOIidiIQGpa/LO0UNKKyhjb7R/WibjUc1pF5xhy+IE4DQFuxpkicjU4X83D 3Dq07OJX4ASutyroaMtrE4NozeJTFNlc69afCEGbC1P3SrlX3fs3NrIX4ius/6A3ZaLl 0ueKQl6AYhzbGzMjyREU4AUPODBbGWZANSr33MgiidPIC9RPzcl3aj8WZ9BnQzI9VCHK HyhA== Received: by 10.180.84.6 with SMTP id u6mr41523281wiy.11.1339630690606; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z8sm14105447wiy.1.2012.06.13.16.38.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:38:05 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120614003805.61746d06@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Lost /var/db/pkg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:38:12 -0000 On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:17:20 +0000 (UTC) jb wrote: > William Orr worrbase.com> writes: > > > > > Hello, > > > > I had a hard disk failure some time ago, and I ended up losing > > /var/db/pkg/ and everything under it (before you say I should've > > been backing it up, I know, I was actually doing an initial full > > when this happened). Is there a way I can restore it, or at least > > manually add entries I know for sure about? > > forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=6466 > "The application themselves are still installed and will keep > functioning, you just removed the records of their installation. When > you later install newer versions, you may have to use a force flag to > overwrite files (the port thinks it is uninstalled after all). The > new port installations will get recorded in /var/db/pkg again.' I wouldn't do that, it's not as simple as that post suggests. It's likely to lead to a lot of files being orphaned, which may lead to build or runtime errors in the future, or vulnerabilities that portaudit can't detect. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 23:40:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180DC106566B for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:40:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA33B8FC0A for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:40:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so1971048obc.13 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:40:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=Fi//j2WWPOMK7jWPP1WGdWKj+eH2pFGOD4/JgR27otI=; b=s9zx1n2UI59DCYDBegx3WO8oUoHyFvUAsGgA3cwlDK5ktF8bYBZSqIDzTzqLa/jY9L ZqCt5pHcRJsLDDNPB4b4rxJmSI4IW7bOhuHLcBI39Bf1W9ng4l9MgXRth9EYU3psN+4v 02tAkMrl64DQ64ts5Cx4lJHkspKIjepqDhzJI= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Fi//j2WWPOMK7jWPP1WGdWKj+eH2pFGOD4/JgR27otI=; b=hKo3UXcwsQXPrqdTku69wLrCGhBmJlV+Z0rzDIcScQuq+QRNJWVe2J9UblskAQ4f2A YvE6TMQPhKWj+3tD1Y5oNKjJG94thkZJRcdBTb5qtjvYhhOEtIBetUwdcPNynztXs24A OsimtqvuhESwyTtvjqghGVGS0d7k3Al5Q1YdsQpcOJO9usv0OfM8jOyeejA48696Cjwq z4b1yBXjZy7iZuZBVVAHp8ae6NGLoZSbMSUZ8CwOfqFeUSZqpez1Ul/QN0rfpJZ9dPha vqkCIo+oYI9pC5OhAcYcC6o5F8cbX1vkIwz3DNl2D/x3QKOLarBmheN0Z95sRkFASyOS 6i2A== Received: by 10.60.170.38 with SMTP id aj6mr26462963oec.51.1339630850230; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:40:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.204.69 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:40:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:40:19 -0700 Message-ID: To: William Orr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnXL/4gPkcFccusNxajRSu50Up5yR/TIv1PxUjOGFjZC8tpSLecmtkhCqeE5LaWDbaI1qZ3 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lost /var/db/pkg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:40:51 -0000 On 12 June 2012 18:03, William Orr wrote: > Hello, > > I had a hard disk failure some time ago, and I ended up losing > /var/db/pkg/ and everything under it (before you say I should've been > backing it up, I know, I was actually doing an initial full when this > happened). Is there a way I can restore it, or at least manually add > entries I know for sure about? look in /var/db/pkgdb.bak.tbz -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 00:03:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4C9106566B for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:03:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E5B8FC18 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:03:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5E03AA1012464; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:03:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5E03ArY012461; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:03:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:03:10 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Eitan Adler In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:03:11 -0600 (MDT) Cc: William Orr , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lost /var/db/pkg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:03:13 -0000 On Wed, 13 Jun 2012, Eitan Adler wrote: > On 12 June 2012 18:03, William Orr wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I had a hard disk failure some time ago, and I ended up losing >> /var/db/pkg/ and everything under it (before you say I should've been >> backing it up, I know, I was actually doing an initial full when this >> happened). Is there a way I can restore it, or at least manually add >> entries I know for sure about? > > look in /var/db/pkgdb.bak.tbz ^^^ ITYM /var/backups/pkgdb.bak.tbz. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 00:16:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60A7106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from omr12.networksolutionsemail.com (omr12.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704AC8FC15 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:16:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cm-omr8 (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by omr12.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q5E0GDAA018963 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:16:13 -0400 Authentication-Results: cm-omr8 smtp.user=racerx@makeworld.com; auth=pass (CRAM-MD5) X-Authenticated-UID: racerx@makeworld.com Received: from [50.44.138.106] ([50.44.138.106:19086] helo=[192.168.222.21]) by cm-omr8 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTPA id 1F/30-09498-C4D29DF4; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:16:13 -0400 Message-ID: <4FD92D52.50603@makeworld.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:16:18 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201206120506.q5C56L2H026673@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120612190629.6a45cb11.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:16:19 -0000 On 6/13/2012 6:23 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:21:31 -0500, Dan Lists wrote: > >> The syntax of his crontab file is correct. Vixie cron does care about >> leading spaces, tabs, extra spaces, or leading zeros. Earlier versions >> of cron are much pickier about the crontab file. The cron logs show >> that it is starting his jobs at the correct times. >> >> It is far more likely that there is a problem with the scripts. A very >> common cause of problems with scripts run from cron is that they do not >> inherit your environment. Do the scripts run from the command line? >> If the do, then the problem is most likely something in your environment >> that the scripts need. > > I'm a complete idiot, and I feel embarrassed. Everything was fine, except > that I had missed out '/bin' in the paths of the jobs. > > I had: > /home/walterh/exports.sh > /home/walterh/backup_etc.sh > /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh > /home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh > > which should of course have been: > /home/walterh/bin/exports.sh > /home/walterh/bin/backup_etc.sh > /home/walterh/bin/systemcheck.sh > /home/walterh/bin/backup_bsd.sh > > What a stupid mistake! Thanks for all the replies, but I must say sorry > for wasting your time. Sorry! > > WH ... Damned those full path names. -- Keep well, Chris <>< From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 00:18:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F1E1065670 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:18:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmtilbrook@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5798FC1A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:18:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so2021478obc.13 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 17:18:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=N/FySXuBoYBcjPPywK0iNgj/XU9Z27ZuG0WTCmHMdWA=; b=eMfeNYu5sVx2H8IaBgHle3nzKe4x/fKntQiLW2tn3Xqw0/UINsULKKB45BhMq/Iv+L PjT56NHXW2A3nduR2NeOnp8fQfr1frs5c1PuYMact50SMtwSasBAG5rE70l8mm5qdB5H Dah+N7wskJaF8l4nqx1BpN2OCoUDsDzbcTHytQFbF1xu+9k7OswmQXbm3HrK4sN7KgsR NUzNzB3q9LjKOpPbiFm3NoPv+qEMozFSjsgQrYtLCND+8wBnAWGd/2ZZkaxbQ86K3eKZ y2gvcc3pjlT+n9JckEpGq1uxCuEs5FoWhfciWrgSUC7SchVdUgvjedEAOjQzu32FxKNv 5/fA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.1.202 with SMTP id 10mr26741566oeo.15.1339633121598; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 17:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.133.2 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 17:18:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120613202325.GC5800@external.screwed.box> References: <20120613202325.GC5800@external.screwed.box> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:18:41 -0400 Message-ID: From: David Tilbrook To: Peter Vereshagin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: `ls -l` shows size of file other than of the folder? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:18:42 -0000 What you have are sparse files. The size listed by ls -l is the length of the files as if all the file from start to end contain data, but unix allows one to seek beyond the end of a file and add more data, thus leaving unused blocks. A common example of sparse files is the *.pag file in a dbm database as created by Ken (Thompson). The ls -s flag will show you how many real blocks are used. The program stat(1) will also show you the number of blocks used. The following creates a file with a size of 1024000002 (a gig), that actually contains only 2 chars. #include main() { fwrite("a", 1, 1, stdout); fseek(stdout, 1000000*1024, SEEK_END); fwrite("b", 1, 1, stdout); } cc foo.c ; ./a.out > ,z ; ls -ls ,z You can od ,z Old codger story from the distant past (circa 1975): When we were using rk05s as our disks, we had to watch for programs that used to fill-in the holes as we often had files that had sizes that were bigger than the amount of storage on an rk05 (5 Meg). Yes people used to live that way. >From the not so distant past (1985): The Andrew File system at CMU used to fill in the holes as it copied files from the file servers to the local host, and back again -- ycccch. -- david On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Peter Vereshagin wr= ote: > Hello. > > I have the directory in the file system with 2 regular files each =A0of = =A0which =A0is > sized as 700M according to 'ls -l'. =A0But the torrent client and 'du -s'= and =A0'ls > -l's 'total' show that the directory size is 300M. > > How can that be? =A0Are there different file sizes =A0stored =A0on =A0a = =A0ufs1 =A0in =A0their > metadata? > > ot the least how could I see the 'real' size of each of those files, both= =A0~150M > actulally, with a system command? > > Thank you. > > -- > Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E2= 6627 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 02:33:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0DF9106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 02:33:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B4B8FC16 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 02:33:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds11 with SMTP id ds11so1255582wgb.31 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:33:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fy9Sa6SO66lYn8dGWcAKUzMGiKug2OIM+BVaFC85ydE=; b=Rz7aw7QNXhbjSLPVWEY6G7Ryz5TYiHwyaWzxjyF8aCWMqTubw0Rc0ipFMvu2KMNnXz jY7JYXwIiEyeGWnRYybEEUbTo0/tQWGJH/dYKgR8vo3WUm5GSXJubxgN40vj87VWlsIz +bTIfy9ipekRpgFBmYGUBntZwncmpmDyScbgwTsCKfRO3Ua11mvDvM1yI2b0jBcuydRu ObdNvrsNU1hrkGTBUikvEwbPn1I6jWdGxAAUPLYX7oswd+oeGQt8Cq7unbDNp3AKB9q8 aJ2UcGvkNtMdyaa7XL1WdpyXVTi4msJ4uuebLiU7CzRO3dNG5pQkpBnEch8wPGp5H5Sk RJIQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.20.137 with SMTP id n9mr178409wie.3.1339641230036; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.7.105 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:33:50 -0400 Message-ID: From: grarpamp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: `ls -l` shows size of file other than of the folder? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 02:33:55 -0000 > The following creates a file with a size of 1024000002 (a gig) > fseek(stdout, 1000000*1024, SEEK_END); Nope :) What you have there is not actually called (anything). A proper gibibyte = GiB = 2^30 = 1024^3 = 1073741824 for data storage, ram (binary bit handling) A proper gigabyte = GB = 1E9 = 1000^3 = 1000000000 for data transmission (packet counting, rocketships) There be current standards, please use them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_80000 http://www.swedeteam.com/kibi/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 02:38:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A36D106566B for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 02:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DC58FC08 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 02:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SezxL-0002MW-Rc for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 04:38:43 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 04:38:43 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 04:38:43 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 02:38:32 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 51 Message-ID: References: <201206120506.q5C56L2H026673@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120612190629.6a45cb11.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FD92D52.50603@makeworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 02:38:48 -0000 On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:16:18 -0500, Chris wrote: > On 6/13/2012 6:23 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: >> On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:21:31 -0500, Dan Lists wrote: >> >>> The syntax of his crontab file is correct. Vixie cron does care about >>> leading spaces, tabs, extra spaces, or leading zeros. Earlier >>> versions of cron are much pickier about the crontab file. The cron >>> logs show that it is starting his jobs at the correct times. >>> >>> It is far more likely that there is a problem with the scripts. A >>> very common cause of problems with scripts run from cron is that they >>> do not inherit your environment. Do the scripts run from the command >>> line? If the do, then the problem is most likely something in your >>> environment that the scripts need. >> >> I'm a complete idiot, and I feel embarrassed. Everything was fine, >> except that I had missed out '/bin' in the paths of the jobs. >> >> I had: >> /home/walterh/exports.sh /home/walterh/backup_etc.sh >> /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh /home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh >> >> which should of course have been: >> /home/walterh/bin/exports.sh /home/walterh/bin/backup_etc.sh >> /home/walterh/bin/systemcheck.sh /home/walterh/bin/backup_bsd.sh >> >> What a stupid mistake! Thanks for all the replies, but I must say sorry >> for wasting your time. Sorry! >> >> WH > > ... Damned those full path names. Actually, given that PATH i specified in the crontab, I don't think the full pathnames are needed. I'll try that next. When I finally have this cracked, I can add the rest of the cron jobs. $ crontab -l SHELL=/bin/bash PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/home/ walterh/bin HOME=/home/walterh PGHOST=jupiter #min hr dom month dow command 00 02 * * * /home/walterh/bin/exports.sh 05 02 * * * /home/walterh/bin/backup_etc.sh 10 02 * * * /home/walterh/bin/systemcheck.sh 15 02 * * * /home/walterh/bin/backup_bsd.sh $ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 04:26:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7BC71065670 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 04:26:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832768FC0C for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 04:26:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q5E4QGoT040522 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:26:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FD967E8.60305@dreamchaser.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:26:16 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120609 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:26:17 -0600 (MDT) Subject: USB device activity when not mounted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 04:26:23 -0000 I can understand why I would see activity on a USB device when it's first plugged in. But why do I see continued activity (i.e. the light blinks on a usb disk or memory stick)? When I umount one of these, they keep being beat up on and it makes me nervous... At what point is it sync'd and safe to unplug? I assume when the umount returns, but what's going on after that? Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 04:49:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B19106566B for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 04:49:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA4C8FC1F for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 04:49:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5E4nV9q072584 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:49:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5E4nVBl072581 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:49:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:49:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:49:31 +0200 (CEST) Subject: slowoffice doesn't work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 04:49:33 -0000 trying to start openoffice shows: [wojtek@wojtek ~]$ openoffice-3.4.0-swriter XDM authorization key matches an existing client!/usr/local/openoffice-3.4.0/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin X11 error: Can't open display: Set DISPLAY environment variable, use -display option or check permissions of your X-Server (See "man X" resp. "man xhost" for details) everything else works, doing xhost + "fixed" the problem. any idea what is wrong. deleting .openoffice doesn't change anything From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 06:05:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C7610656B9 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:05:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02EE08FC16 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-40-10.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.40.10]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838AF3D244; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:05:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q5E65BfX001968; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:05:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:05:11 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Message-Id: <20120614080511.0d855639.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4FD967E8.60305@dreamchaser.org> References: <4FD967E8.60305@dreamchaser.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: USB device activity when not mounted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:05:20 -0000 On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:26:16 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > I can understand why I would see activity on a USB device > when it's first plugged in. But why do I see continued > activity (i.e. the light blinks on a usb disk or memory stick)? > When I umount one of these, they keep being beat up on and > it makes me nervous... At what point is it sync'd and safe > to unplug? I assume when the umount returns, but what's going > on after that? I don't think that's a problem. I've got a USB stick here that has a blinkenlight as soon as it's powered on (plugged in), even if there is no reading / writing / mounting activity. After you've successfully performed umount, the USB stick _is_ synced and can safely be removed, no matter what you assume the funny lights want to tell you. Maybe that's just a "modern feature" to make the USB stick "more entertaining". :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 06:11:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41FD106566C for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:11:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E438FC0C for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-40-10.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.40.10]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DADA53D23B; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:11:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q5E6B7dE001986; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:11:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:11:07 +0200 From: Polytropon To: grarpamp Message-Id: <20120614081107.c0439718.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: `ls -l` shows size of file other than of the folder? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:11:08 -0000 On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:33:50 -0400, grarpamp wrote: > > The following creates a file with a size of 1024000002 (a gig) > > fseek(stdout, 1000000*1024, SEEK_END); > > Nope :) What you have there is not actually called (anything). It would maybe be called a MKiB. :-) > A proper gibibyte = GiB = 2^30 = 1024^3 = 1073741824 > for data storage, ram (binary bit handling) > A proper gigabyte = GB = 1E9 = 1000^3 = 1000000000 > for data transmission (packet counting, rocketships) > > There be current standards, please use them. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_80000 > http://www.swedeteam.com/kibi/ In IT context, already in the 60's and 70's, unit prefixes k, M and G always were interpreted as of 2^n (or 1024*), even if the unit was _words_, not bytes. :-) Even school taught that in the 80's: When dealing with computers, 1 kB != 1000 B, but 1 kB = 1024 B. That is considered basic knowledge. Every IT person should be aware of this. It's common to "abuse" the SI units with the (known!) deviant interpretation. Sometimes, you find hardware vendors "forgetting" the factor mismatch 1024 vs. 1000 when they tell you how many GB the new shiny hard disk has. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 07:07:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF4D106566C for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:07:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF1B8FC0C for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:07:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so2569811obc.13 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:07:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=9Dh69m+Z+GKPjU4xRzr4UbuA6wAZPx3tt/mQLIgBQJ8=; b=kZazkdwr2oQAqKodLxdZITbkli0zSAKeqkWbn+U1oWR2wXqTuCH69SkfeaY/M9Jtkm P40/r0OnIc/CcBZXuWnmGfd9q/gzuh5CopBDppwF+IoIkVDz9vHXNqXG5eB7eohhRSkk djn9Xy0kCQ8341Ri4MLpgiCn0NWKR/ampbWmU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=9Dh69m+Z+GKPjU4xRzr4UbuA6wAZPx3tt/mQLIgBQJ8=; b=IHJGiB65KTwFKEWn5xBifrzOUjZA8l0viAtfPFeVO0bxdXGlPmtQt8D9/ewhFdWO9V kqE4wvHyRDyTYk+tY/q/Xj6W56YXpRyULB94F/R78PlrCzcn3HIN261DhEab1VYycwEt XgKCsqxNsy7WWmzQHuqAx0ifx7+jKXk0er96bLlnEFDh/F12ZgC0lGAZmPnNYIGk38JH wvEy0aE8eqyKb6f6JuQ6HeQanl+FQHEUhRr1gL1ULsdI1j4hKQSdTPxPin0xgh0qzqhD Yv1TPMvhg9Pxcg22CAGltOrAW/YNP14J9khytd+lyeJ7F/2hPyfbqIx4Tyh0FcCClIG6 ZmOw== Received: by 10.182.164.102 with SMTP id yp6mr544828obb.66.1339657659002; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:07:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.204.69 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:07:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120614081107.c0439718.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20120614081107.c0439718.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Eitan Adler Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:07:08 -0700 Message-ID: To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn4wezXfqSwwr+EIaTxN9zYwLGdNkwk0pAOVu3uhpCIZe9Ifcsh+lP2J9s0on1l9BVltjGK Cc: grarpamp , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: `ls -l` shows size of file other than of the folder? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:07:42 -0000 On 13 June 2012 23:11, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:33:50 -0400, grarpamp wrote: >> > The following creates a file with a size of 1024000002 (a gig) >> > fseek(stdout, 1000000*1024, SEEK_END); >> >> Nope :) What you have there is not actually called (anything). > > It would maybe be called a MKiB. :-) In SI units it is called a gigabyte. The value 2^30 is called a gibibyte. Everyone knows what he talking about so playing semantic games is silly. Can we move on to real questions? :) -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 07:40:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C984106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:40:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (imap.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D7D8FC12 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5E7eYgV070898 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:40:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q5E7eYgV070898 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1339659635; bh=ZxLG1DkTrEbO5oHZ7GEuArupGQsJxHNN5Aq46ThGsio=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Cc:Content-Type: Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=eKwN/CqVW4UKpnUoT369B6jIkFUTogC+cQtpcZIzuRqkxOLELxofnlRmaZ+RaXdlY LKWnokzYRf4hhQnrFvwtK3lNfjQd7Sjl9ogl1G9lmRks5Gxs0mTLy+DTDBoDlhwON/ L/AwLqCkzucRoi3s3V3MxgxSGfCREJMJ67HgX0Yk= Message-ID: <4FD9956B.2010501@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:40:27 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120614081107.c0439718.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120614081107.c0439718.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig6419AE1C6DAC786BAC984176" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_ALL,DKIM_SIGNED,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: `ls -l` shows size of file other than of the folder? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:40:47 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig6419AE1C6DAC786BAC984176 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14/06/2012 07:11, Polytropon wrote: > In IT context, already in the 60's and 70's, unit prefixes > k, M and G always were interpreted as of 2^n (or 1024*), > even if the unit was _words_, not bytes. :-) Which was incorrect in principle > Even school taught that in the 80's: When dealing with > computers, 1 kB !=3D 1000 B, but 1 kB =3D 1024 B. That is > considered basic knowledge. Schools teach a lot of things that are so glossed over or so over-simplified as to be basically wrong. They have been known to teach things that were common knowledge at the time and were later shown to be simply incorrect[*]. > Every IT person should be aware of this. It's common to "abuse" > the SI units with the (known!) deviant interpretation. Really? If I said the bandwidth usage was 10Mb/s would you immediately understand that was 10,000,000,000 bits per second? Yes, bandwidth is always denoted in strict SI powers-of-1000 scale modifiers, always has been, but the corrosive effect of muddling 2^10 vs 10^3 in computing just leads to confusion and error. > Sometimes, you find hardware vendors "forgetting" the factor > mismatch 1024 vs. 1000 when they tell you how many GB the new > shiny hard disk has. :-) Oh dear. It is so galling to realise that the sales people were actually right all along isn't it? Does one's geek credibility no good at all to realise that we've been out pedanted by some suits... SI has published the standard for byte-wise scale factors: Ki, Mi, Gi etc. Best to start using them immediately and pretend that the whole shameful episode of being unable to distinguish 1024 from 1000 never ever happened. Cheers, Matthew [*] I have memories of school lessons stating definitively that there were only 2 allotropes of carbon[+]. Buckminsterfullerene wasn't discovered until I was at University. [+] Although this was factually incorrect at the time of teaching: look up lonsdaleite. Just because it never occurs in any more than microscopic amounts doesn't mean it doesn't matter. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig6419AE1C6DAC786BAC984176 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/ZlXIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxZggCePqMjwZCsklP3CTgqzpMxmnCW aQYAnjsubAYCwJEkTd1jG/c0etbjqkaE =2fZn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig6419AE1C6DAC786BAC984176-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 07:51:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D25210657A6 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:51:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18A88FC1A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:51:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadv36 with SMTP id v36so2276060dad.13 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:51:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=6c7gnIYlthp7vv6uW97lelrJxazGDxS517RCb/Sbws0=; b=Gf5+ie2X4E6RTgbiCp4+MBnN5VSvzUhuV1h4va4r2e9trr2lfU+/aPwtdnEKj4ddX6 RKYCUFo+0th+9P2+I2PJhBPeJlrca6pmqaBCsZHlQ4IkjX6U6+rL344L/R89ecvwd5E0 uu2xyFEUk9QS4pavnYbAt18Mh6IR24A7NYo/xxesF1TRQKIQnU8vpGJUXP6mYP2x4krK Kiv3dX9JSVwuRH5VMkTuqVe674z7U0MY2f/dABW1vHqPoKkvj/aCLQITis5eHxYQoAA4 1m4JCNSi+r5lJOkR6vID486sDVTZRrYCi4Kf+Ymod5819kqkwIrg7sGoHr/uoAbxCv3w 1rnQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.217.234 with SMTP id pb10mr5610267pbc.79.1339660307666; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.225.3 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:51:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.175.200] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:51:46 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Kurt Buff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlmFP+GH5rvghE7652PIl+WfBRBLaTvXeICjCo/iSz/Duvt08uUZUai2C+MvF//XB3xdeQf Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:51:51 -0000 On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > UEFI considerations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel binaries > http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/ > > This would seem to make compiling from source difficult. > > Kurt I'm not sure I understand the issue, but this is my take on it so far: 1. What's preventing the makers of boot loaders like GRUB (which can also boot FreeBSD) from getting a certificate ONCE? And if they have one, what's preventing them from loading ANY kernel at all? It is only the first stage boot loader that needs to be signed, or not? 2. What's preventing anyone of us in the EU from stepping up efforts with the EU Commission and the EU Parliament to stop Microsoft from monopolizing the ARM (and later x86) platforms, i.e. by becoming the only gatekeepers? After all, EU sovereign states and their economies can't depend on a US corporation having a global kill switch to their whole infrastructure. We're not just talking about Windows dominance here, but a lot more: dominance on the whole hardware segment. I'm pretty sure this scheme is highly anti-competitive, and I guess it runs afoul of a lot of already existing EU regulations. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 07:52:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660B910657DC for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:52:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D938FC14 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:52:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5E7pxuw071099 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:51:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q5E7pxuw071099 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1339660320; bh=ZR+zvi1QQm6n+9+OxzlRYWeRftB7cHjBdjKr7fxBUaM=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Cc:Content-Type: Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=OFOWof3nAyw90xDSF8sjK+/h6BjgjmCtQagoDxYVoAONeNXac26qb7HVfzOY5qTSz hDczoUOhqcB/JNatm9DFmFcPS2b0V8YgAUr7LHnwOrPIvlKkmBJ4u9v1TWPoY+Lodn /w3n0FMObUK/CNmwVhiadSiWpFjSfJ5kfw6KRDhg= Message-ID: <4FD9981F.1010200@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:51:59 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120614081107.c0439718.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FD9956B.2010501@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4FD9956B.2010501@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig53059402E7506EEA3F517AC1" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_ALL,DKIM_SIGNED,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: `ls -l` shows size of file other than of the folder? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:52:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig53059402E7506EEA3F517AC1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14/06/2012 08:40, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Really? If I said the bandwidth usage was 10Mb/s would you immediately= > understand that was 10,000,000,000 bits per second? Err... of course you wouldn't. 10,000,000 bits per second. That's what I meant to type. Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig53059402E7506EEA3F517AC1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/ZmB8ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIztzgCfWcHPcACEa2iVYhIy3ZpVNx0g WxsAn21q7DeX7dvvD/oIQJR9rYLkGx/b =BDYR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig53059402E7506EEA3F517AC1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 07:57:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E03106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:57:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705DD8FC12 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:57:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadv36 with SMTP id v36so2282675dad.13 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:57:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=ZHx4eYTfO/eXP6HrkCPCAIgzKHYSgjTWPzZD1JrSr5U=; b=juDp6OGN6wKAkuoHGcuywewwnDopKZpMR22zgtb+SSXkRWW+T6q/EAsn13sBp88Ak5 BfDatMjthTlpNK9bi+Td3ednZjZDtvDwfhi2SVZ6cU8jn1fTZczw6rk7Vep1ltKfUqyh 55b44T46evMUGXgD8zbn0jzd0Ad8rFmmzPwO61dF5ZUm173VLogQN9WJoYEf/AoItDCk r1EYic67JpwZ5tjrKoa/hfw82PrcZxwGOYuqOL0kmmwghd4sS3V69TIsfqy0ZhdBv7w5 uU5z/raDe29UVnnGJu3GysR8Vf+UvaMaGvkLCq5GpYqy+3evZObSwn7JcRWC/Fd/rLSD iW/A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.244.100 with SMTP id xf4mr4780877pbc.147.1339660649976; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.225.3 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:57:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.175.200] In-Reply-To: <94FE1CB5-F92E-4083-8DC4-8A22D353EAC2@80386.org> References: <94FE1CB5-F92E-4083-8DC4-8A22D353EAC2@80386.org> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:57:29 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Subhro Sankha Kar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkywvsCq5b4NyI2ZEpzpk1kbHcyEN1gypAE83W+gHfhTbEiWe6l18Bq9L31OJD9vYRO7n/d Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: link_elf_obj: symbol ata_controlcmd undefined X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:57:30 -0000 On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote= : > Hello, > > Looks like you have missed out something related to ATA in the kernel con= figuration file. Can you post your complete kernel config? Hi, I'm just using the GENERIC config on amd64, as of r235604. Nothing modified there. # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/amd64 # # For more information on this file, please read the config(5) manual page, # and/or the handbook section on Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig= -config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ../../conf/NOTES and NOTES files. # If you are in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first # in NOTES. # # $FreeBSD: stable/9/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC 233797 2012-04-02 18:13:29Z jki= m $ cpu HAMMER ident GENERIC makeoptions DEBUG=3D-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options SCHED_ULE # ULE scheduler options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption options INET # InterNETworking options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options SCTP # Stream Control Transmission Protocol options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options UFS_GJOURNAL # Enable gjournal-based UFS journaling options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options NFSCL # New Network Filesystem Client options NFSD # New Network Filesystem Server options NFSLOCKD # Network Lock Manager options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCL options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_PART_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options GEOM_LABEL # Provides labelization options COMPAT_FREEBSD32 # Compatible with i386 binaries options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5 options COMPAT_FREEBSD6 # Compatible with FreeBSD6 options COMPAT_FREEBSD7 # Compatible with FreeBSD7 options SCSI_DELAY=3D5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options STACK # stack(9) support options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=3D128 # Prevent printf output being interspersed. options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options HWPMC_HOOKS # Necessary kernel hooks for hwpmc(4) options AUDIT # Security event auditing options MAC # TrustedBSD MAC Framework #options KDTRACE_FRAME # Ensure frames are compiled in #options KDTRACE_HOOKS # Kernel DTrace hooks options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE # Include this file in kernel options KDB # Kernel debugger related code options KDB_TRACE # Print a stack trace for a panic # Make an SMP-capable kernel by default options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel # CPU frequency control device cpufreq # Bus support. device acpi device pci # Floppy drives device fdc # ATA controllers device ahci # AHCI-compatible SATA controllers device ata # Legacy ATA/SATA controllers options ATA_CAM # Handle legacy controllers with CAM options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering device mvs # Marvell 88SX50XX/88SX60XX/88SX70XX/SoC SATA device siis # SiliconImage SiI3124/SiI3132/SiI3531 SATA # SCSI Controllers device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. device ahd # AHA39320/29320 and onboard AIC79xx devices options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~215k to driver. device esp # AMD Am53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T)) device hptiop # Highpoint RocketRaid 3xxx series device isp # Qlogic family #device ispfw # Firmware for QLogic HBAs- normally a module device mpt # LSI-Logic MPT-Fusion device mps # LSI-Logic MPT-Fusion 2 #device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets + those of `ncr') device trm # Tekram DC395U/UW/F DC315U adapters device adv # Advansys SCSI adapters device adw # Advansys wide SCSI adapters device aic # Adaptec 15[012]x SCSI adapters, AIC-6[23]60. device bt # Buslogic/Mylex MultiMaster SCSI adapters device isci # Intel C600 SAS controller # ATA/SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for ATA/SCSI) device ch # SCSI media changers device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct ATA/SCSI access) device ses # Enclosure Services (SES and SAF-TE) device ctl # CAM Target Layer # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem device amr # AMI MegaRAID device arcmsr # Areca SATA II RAID #XXX it is not 64-bit clean, -scottl #device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID device ciss # Compaq Smart RAID 5* device dpt # DPT Smartcache III, IV - See NOTES for options device hptmv # Highpoint RocketRAID 182x device hptrr # Highpoint RocketRAID 17xx, 22xx, 23xx, 25xx device iir # Intel Integrated RAID device ips # IBM (Adaptec) ServeRAID device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID device twa # 3ware 9000 series PATA/SATA RAID # RAID controllers device aac # Adaptec FSA RAID device aacp # SCSI passthrough for aac (requires CAM) device ida # Compaq Smart RAID device mfi # LSI MegaRAID SAS device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family #XXX pointer/int warnings #device pst # Promise Supertrak SX6000 device twe # 3ware ATA RAID device tws # LSI 3ware 9750 SATA+SAS 6Gb/s RAID controller # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse device kbdmux # keyboard multiplexer device vga # VGA video card driver options VESA # Add support for VESA BIOS Extensions (VBE) device splash # Splash screen and screen saver support # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc options SC_PIXEL_MODE # add support for the raster text mode device agp # support several AGP chipsets # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support # PCMCIA and cardbus bridge support device cbb # cardbus (yenta) bridge device pccard # PC Card (16-bit) bus device cardbus # CardBus (32-bit) bus # Serial (COM) ports device uart # Generic UART driver # Parallel port device ppc device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da device puc # Multi I/O cards and multi-channel UARTs # PCI Ethernet NICs. device bxe # Broadcom BCM57710/BCM57711/BCM57711E 10Gb Ethernet device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') device em # Intel PRO/1000 Gigabit Ethernet Family device igb # Intel PRO/1000 PCIE Server Gigabit Family device ixgbe # Intel PRO/10GbE PCIE Ethernet Family device le # AMD Am7900 LANCE and Am79C9xx PCnet device ti # Alteon Networks Tigon I/II gigabit Ethernet device txp # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'') device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs= ! device miibus # MII bus support device ae # Attansic/Atheros L2 FastEthernet device age # Attansic/Atheros L1 Gigabit Ethernet device alc # Atheros AR8131/AR8132 Ethernet device ale # Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 Ethernet device bce # Broadcom BCM5706/BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet device bfe # Broadcom BCM440x 10/100 Ethernet device bge # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet device cas # Sun Cassini/Cassini+ and NS DP83065 Saturn device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes device et # Agere ET1310 10/100/Gigabit Ethernet device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) device gem # Sun GEM/Sun ERI/Apple GMAC device hme # Sun HME (Happy Meal Ethernet) device jme # JMicron JMC250 Gigabit/JMC260 Fast Ethernet device lge # Level 1 LXT1001 gigabit Ethernet device msk # Marvell/SysKonnect Yukon II Gigabit Ethernet device nfe # nVidia nForce MCP on-board Ethernet device nge # NatSemi DP83820 gigabit Ethernet #device nve # nVidia nForce MCP on-board Ethernet Networking device pcn # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100 (precedence over 'le') device re # RealTek 8139C+/8169/8169S/8110S device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') device sge # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS190/191 device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 device sk # SysKonnect SK-984x & SK-982x gigabit Ethernet device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) device stge # Sundance/Tamarack TC9021 gigabit Ethernet device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN device tx # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'') device vge # VIA VT612x gigabit Ethernet device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II device wb # Winbond W89C840F device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # ISA Ethernet NICs. pccard NICs included. device cs # Crystal Semiconductor CS89x0 NIC # 'device ed' requires 'device miibus' device ed # NE[12]000, SMC Ultra, 3c503, DS8390 cards device ex # Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 and Pro/10+ device ep # Etherlink III based cards device fe # Fujitsu MB8696x based cards device sn # SMC's 9000 series of Ethernet chips device xe # Xircom pccard Ethernet # Wireless NIC cards device wlan # 802.11 support options IEEE80211_DEBUG # enable debug msgs options IEEE80211_AMPDU_AGE # age frames in AMPDU reorder q's options IEEE80211_SUPPORT_MESH # enable 802.11s draft support device wlan_wep # 802.11 WEP support device wlan_ccmp # 802.11 CCMP support device wlan_tkip # 802.11 TKIP support device wlan_amrr # AMRR transmit rate control algorithm device an # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. device ath # Atheros NIC's device ath_pci # Atheros pci/cardbus glue device ath_hal # pci/cardbus chip support options AH_SUPPORT_AR5416 # enable AR5416 tx/rx descriptors device ath_rate_sample # SampleRate tx rate control for ath #device bwi # Broadcom BCM430x/BCM431x wireless NICs. #device bwn # Broadcom BCM43xx wireless NICs. device ipw # Intel 2100 wireless NICs. device iwi # Intel 2200BG/2225BG/2915ABG wireless NICs. device iwn # Intel 4965/1000/5000/6000 wireless NICs. device malo # Marvell Libertas wireless NICs. device mwl # Marvell 88W8363 802.11n wireless NICs. device ral # Ralink Technology RT2500 wireless NICs. device wi # WaveLAN/Intersil/Symbol 802.11 wireless NICs. device wpi # Intel 3945ABG wireless NICs. # Pseudo devices. device loop # Network loopback device random # Entropy device device ether # Ethernet support device vlan # 802.1Q VLAN support device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # BSD-style compatibility pseudo ttys device md # Memory "disks" device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) device firmware # firmware assist module # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! # Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP. device bpf # Berkeley packet filter # USB support options USB_DEBUG # enable debug msgs device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) device xhci # XHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 3.0) device usb # USB Bus (required) #device udbp # USB Double Bulk Pipe devices (needs netgraph) device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse device urio # Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player # USB Serial devices device u3g # USB-based 3G modems (Option, Huawei, Sierra) device uark # Technologies ARK3116 based serial adapters device ubsa # Belkin F5U103 and compatible serial adapters device uftdi # For FTDI usb serial adapters device uipaq # Some WinCE based devices device uplcom # Prolific PL-2303 serial adapters device uslcom # SI Labs CP2101/CP2102 serial adapters device uvisor # Visor and Palm devices device uvscom # USB serial support for DDI pocket's PHS # USB Ethernet, requires miibus device aue # ADMtek USB Ethernet device axe # ASIX Electronics USB Ethernet device cdce # Generic USB over Ethernet device cue # CATC USB Ethernet device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB Ethernet device rue # RealTek RTL8150 USB Ethernet device udav # Davicom DM9601E USB # USB Wireless device rum # Ralink Technology RT2501USB wireless NICs device run # Ralink Technology RT2700/RT2800/RT3000 NICs. device uath # Atheros AR5523 wireless NICs device upgt # Conexant/Intersil PrismGT wireless NICs. device ural # Ralink Technology RT2500USB wireless NICs device urtw # Realtek RTL8187B/L wireless NICs device zyd # ZyDAS zd1211/zd1211b wireless NICs # FireWire support device firewire # FireWire bus code # sbp(4) works for some systems but causes boot failure on others #device sbp # SCSI over FireWire (Requires scbus and da) device fwe # Ethernet over FireWire (non-standard!) device fwip # IP over FireWire (RFC 2734,3146) device dcons # Dumb console driver device dcons_crom # Configuration ROM for dcons # Sound support device sound # Generic sound driver (required) device snd_es137x # Ensoniq AudioPCI ES137x device snd_hda # Intel High Definition Audio device snd_ich # Intel, NVidia and other ICH AC'97 Audio device snd_uaudio # USB Audio device snd_via8233 # VIA VT8233x Audio Regards, -cpghost. > Thanks > Subhro > > -- > Subhro Sankha Kar > System Administrator > Working and playing with FreeBSD since 2002 > > On 20-May-2012, at 5:53 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> what does this boot message means, and where >> does it come from? >> >> link_elf_obj: symbol ata_controlcmd undefined >> linker_load_file: Unsupported file type >> >> It appears between between >> =A0ZFS storage pool version 28 >> and >> =A0drm0: on vgapci0 >> >> uname -a: >> >> FreeBSD phenom.cordula.ws 9.0-STABLE FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #0 >> r235604: Fri May 18 15:49:06 CEST 2012 root@phenom.cordula.ws: >> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC =A0amd64 >> >> TIA, >> -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 08:00:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A65106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:00:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36DCB8FC12 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:00:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-40-10.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.40.10]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2203D30F; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:00:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q5E80HVH002547; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:00:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:00:17 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Matthew Seaman Message-Id: <20120614100017.f636fc8d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4FD9956B.2010501@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <20120614081107.c0439718.freebsd@edvax.de> <4FD9956B.2010501@infracaninophile.co.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: `ls -l` shows size of file other than of the folder? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:00:19 -0000 On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:40:27 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 14/06/2012 07:11, Polytropon wrote: > > Even school taught that in the 80's: When dealing with > > computers, 1 kB != 1000 B, but 1 kB = 1024 B. That is > > considered basic knowledge. > > Schools teach a lot of things that are so glossed over or so > over-simplified as to be basically wrong. They have been known to teach > things that were common knowledge at the time and were later shown to be > simply incorrect[*]. That's why you never can stop learning in IT, and fighting bad habits in all imaginable areas. :-) > > Every IT person should be aware of this. It's common to "abuse" > > the SI units with the (known!) deviant interpretation. > > Really? If I said the bandwidth usage was 10Mb/s would you immediately > understand that was 10,000,000,000 bits per second? Yes, bandwidth is > always denoted in strict SI powers-of-1000 scale modifiers, always has > been, but the corrosive effect of muddling 2^10 vs 10^3 in computing > just leads to confusion and error. In that case, it's simple: The base unit is b (bit), not B (byte), so M = *1000*1000 as the normal SI interpretation. The abuse of M as in *1024*1024 (SI: Mi) only happens to bytes. :-) > > Sometimes, you find hardware vendors "forgetting" the factor > > mismatch 1024 vs. 1000 when they tell you how many GB the new > > shiny hard disk has. :-) > > Oh dear. It is so galling to realise that the sales people were > actually right all along isn't it? Does one's geek credibility no good > at all to realise that we've been out pedanted by some suits... And it becomes even more funny when an "IT aware" advertising manager says: "Hey, there's this cool Gi prefix, why not just say the disk is 800 GiB instead of 800 GB? Then more geeks will buy our products!" :-) (No, I won't try to even mention the fun of usable file system capacity vs. gross disk "hardware-only" capacity.) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 08:31:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB241065673 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:31:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from ifdnrg30.ifdnrg.com (ifdnrg30.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F3C58FC0A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:31:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (cpc11-sgyl31-2-0-cust891.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com [94.175.95.124]) (authenticated bits=0) by ifdnrg30.ifdnrg.com (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5E84ViY090566 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:04:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <4FD99B0A.6050105@ifdnrg.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:04:26 +0100 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon References: <20120613183414.CE84B106566C@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20120613183414.CE84B106566C@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.3 + MySQL 5.0.95 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:31:07 -0000 On 13/06/2012 19:34, Simon wrote: > Hi, > > I upgrade to FreeBSD 8.3-p3 and installed MySQL 5.0.95 from ports. > > It runs fine until it dies silently. Does anyone run a heavy loaded MySQL > under such setup? how can I troubleshoot this? > > I could never compile a stable MySQL server from the ports and always > relied on MySQL community server binaries but there is no binary for > latest 5.0.xx > > Thank you! > Simon > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Its not clear if you upgraded mysql or just did a vanilla fresh install, but assuming the former, i take it you ran the mysql_upgrade script post upgrade? /usr/ports/databases/mysqlXX-scripts -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07970339546< Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EA2106566B for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:56:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remailer@dizum.com) Received: from smtp.zedz.net (outpost.zedz.net [194.109.206.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B928FC0A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.zedz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282751AA1A3 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:56:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.zedz.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qu7C9QHFeMGa for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:56:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: by smtp.zedz.net (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 76B6E1AA396; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:56:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Nomen Nescio Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1bb5abbb8f8b777782bfad58f015d8f6@dizum.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:56:22 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Possible to run freebsd mips under QEMU??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:56:52 -0000 Hi is there any update on this? I would like to be able to run FreeBSD MIPS and I don't have a MIPS box! You wrote: > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > The short answer is yes - I've seen this. I've not done it myself > > though, I've just acquired cheap mips hardware. > > I'd currently preference the use of GXemul over the use of QEMU. > GXemul has a built-in test machine that we support disk, networking > and SMP on now. I'll try to take the time to write-up complete > instructions (I've done it so many times I'd surely leave something > out if I wrote it up right now) in the next few days, or perhaps > rwatson will, as I know his lab is using GXemul in that way. We > should try to get something on the Wiki for this as soon as possible > as it's a very easy way to get started with FreeBSD on MIPS, and is > infinitely-useful for debugging and some kinds of performance testing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 09:41:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC70106566C for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:41:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FCCD8FC16 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:41:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4B55E1E6 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:40:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.871 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.871 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.362, BAYES_05=-1.11, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id sLveM+jh0+Ft for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:40:06 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-041-102.ekt.thalamus.net [195.216.41.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D0D25E1DC for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:40:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FD9B1C4.6010403@eskk.nu> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:41:24 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120610 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: freebsd-update procedure, question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:41:25 -0000 When one recives the FreeBSD Errata Notice or FreeBSD Security Advisory The instruction is to do: # freebsd-update fetch # freebsd-update install From earlier discussions on this list about the -px number not changing, I usually rebuild and install the kernel. My question is: Do I need to reboot after # freebsd-update install or can I rebuild and install the kernel before the reboot? Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 09:45:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB343106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:45:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CDC98FC0A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BAD5E1E6 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:44:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.616 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.616 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.618, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15cBiWWOKzG5 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:44:36 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-041-102.ekt.thalamus.net [195.216.41.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D7125E11A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:44:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FD9B2D3.5020409@eskk.nu> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:45:55 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120610 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: freebsd-update install question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:45:45 -0000 When I do freebsd-update install I get this error: Installing updates...install: ///usr/src/lib/libc/gen/libc_dlopen.c: No such file or directory I think it's because I do not have all sources installed. So I just want to confirm that it's the case. Also, should I care and install the source needed? Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 10:12:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AC71065678 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:12:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908EE8FC0A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:12:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5EACDLH073291 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:12:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q5EACDLH073291 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q5EACDLH073291; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4FD9B8F5.5060909@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:12:05 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leslie Jensen References: <4FD9B1C4.6010403@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FD9B1C4.6010403@eskk.nu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7FE9FD37767AC1777BA83433" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update procedure, question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:12:24 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7FE9FD37767AC1777BA83433 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14/06/2012 10:41, Leslie Jensen wrote: > When one recives the >=20 > FreeBSD Errata Notice or >=20 > FreeBSD Security Advisory >=20 > The instruction is to do: >=20 >=20 > # freebsd-update fetch >=20 > # freebsd-update install >=20 >=20 >=20 > From earlier discussions on this list about the -px number not changing= , > I usually rebuild and install the kernel. >=20 > My question is: >=20 > Do I need to reboot after # freebsd-update install or can I rebuild and= > install the kernel before the reboot? freebsd-update will fetch any updates to /usr/src, so any time after you've done 'freebsd-update install' you can build and install a new kernel with all the security patches applied. Given that you are only applying security updates within one release branch and you are using a kernel configuration that has been well tested, you should be fine to just install the new kernel before rebooting at the end of your update procedure. However, if you're going to be doing anything more ambitious (switching RELEASE version, modifying the kernel config non-trivially), then you should adopt a more cautious approach. You need to make sure you've got a world+kernel combination that still works after freebsd-update has applied all its changes to the system before you try booting to your customised kernel. In the case of major version upgrades, use the default kernels that freebsd-update supplies during the actual upgrade so you can be assured that you have a working combination (working in the sense that you can log in and build/install a new kernel; if you need a custom kernel to support some odd bits of hardware then those temporarily won't work). Once you've got the system up and running after updating, then go ahead and build and install your new kernel. Should it fail to boot properly, you will be able to back-out to the previous known-working kernel. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enig7FE9FD37767AC1777BA83433 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/ZuPwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzH/QCfbz516SA7FvnyNdbFg4jyrpp9 7ScAnih2jMTk3QIUpXmaCjXvPRTQx0HG =krpW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7FE9FD37767AC1777BA83433-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 10:18:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCEC1065673 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:18:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9FD8FC15 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:18:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5EAIKlD073428 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:18:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q5EAIKlD073428 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1339669100; bh=Wzpxjz2waSh33C0jiD/IJ6Wmqa+4ZaE9UvCga6XEcv8=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=sSXQv6bEdfZrVrsyQZZ8sQxpTe4FsbDbNUstHY2nYPCxzxwCKcIEjouBiib8cHRpG RVflaDrR9LeT5hkwqS3NgULGjJcD67+SQnRemGKS4lbvK3P5fNyzv3ZqJEMT76b9+Y Jv/L6xg0ixlH9vwEeEMX0UD4VhnsZqfnbQbMrmZM= Message-ID: <4FD9BA6C.70404@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:18:20 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leslie Jensen References: <4FD9B2D3.5020409@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FD9B2D3.5020409@eskk.nu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF3FFC456B5429852E7595EB1" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_ALL,DKIM_SIGNED,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update install question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:18:25 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF3FFC456B5429852E7595EB1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14/06/2012 10:45, Leslie Jensen wrote: > When I do >=20 > freebsd-update install >=20 > I get this error: >=20 > Installing updates...install: ///usr/src/lib/libc/gen/libc_dlopen.c: No= > such file or directory >=20 > I think it's because I do not have all sources installed. So I just wan= t > to confirm that it's the case. If you're using freebsd-update then you don't need the libc sources. Does no harm to have them around. Given you're using a custom kernel then you definitely do need the kernel sources: that's everything under /usr/src/sys plus a few other bits and pieces. > Also, should I care and install the source needed? The default setting for freebsd-update is to install the system sources. If you haven't changed /etc/freebsd-update.conf then something odd is happening. Perhaps you manually deleted the contents of /usr/src ? If you definitely don't want the system sources, then edit /etc/freebsd-update.conf and change this section in the obvious way: # Components of the base system which should be kept updated. Components src world kernel # Example for updating the userland and the kernel source code only: # Components src/base src/sys world ie. comment out the first 'Components' line and uncomment the second. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigF3FFC456B5429852E7595EB1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/ZumwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIytEACcCjwYYpEt7q4MwCAsi77+q4EK UdcAn2+qD9NDv9VWiZPdRt6HUD/Ev/da =4HxR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF3FFC456B5429852E7595EB1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 10:30:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C4F106566B for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:30:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1718FC08 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F345E401; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:29:25 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.615 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.615 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.617, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 0lHcpMrJtidD; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:29:19 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-041-102.ekt.thalamus.net [195.216.41.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC3795E318; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:29:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FD9BD3D.2090601@eskk.nu> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:30:21 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120610 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <4FD9B2D3.5020409@eskk.nu> <4FD9BA6C.70404@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4FD9BA6C.70404@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update install question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:30:30 -0000 2012-06-14 12:18, Matthew Seaman skrev: > On 14/06/2012 10:45, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> When I do >> >> freebsd-update install >> >> I get this error: >> >> Installing updates...install: ///usr/src/lib/libc/gen/libc_dlopen.c: No >> such file or directory >> >> I think it's because I do not have all sources installed. So I just want >> to confirm that it's the case. > > If you're using freebsd-update then you don't need the libc sources. > Does no harm to have them around. > > Given you're using a custom kernel then you definitely do need the > kernel sources: that's everything under /usr/src/sys plus a few other > bits and pieces. > >> Also, should I care and install the source needed? > > The default setting for freebsd-update is to install the system sources. > If you haven't changed /etc/freebsd-update.conf then something odd is > happening. Perhaps you manually deleted the contents of /usr/src ? > > If you definitely don't want the system sources, then edit > /etc/freebsd-update.conf and change this section in the obvious way: > > # Components of the base system which should be kept updated. > Components src world kernel > > # Example for updating the userland and the kernel source code only: > # Components src/base src/sys world > > ie. comment out the first 'Components' line and uncomment the second. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > I use the default kernel, on changes whatsoever. I haven't changed anything. I installed the sources because it was needed for VirtualBox, I think. I didn't install all sources only what was needed. I've not touched /etc/frebsd-update.conf at all. Should I install the libc souces? thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 10:48:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F231106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:48:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from om-lists-bsd@omx.ch) Received: from ibox.insign.ch (ibox.insign.ch [195.134.143.207]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE5FF8FC14 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 82784 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2012 10:41:54 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.170] ([80.254.166.203]) by ibox.insign.ch ([195.134.143.207]) with ESMTP via TCP; 14 Jun 2012 10:41:54 -0000 From: Olivier Mueller To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:41:53 +0200 Message-ID: <1339670513.7205.27.camel@ompc.insign> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: FreeBSD compatibility with HP ProLiant DL360p Generation 8 (Gen8) ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:48:38 -0000 Hello, I need to order a few more servers for an internal project, and instead of the usual DL360G7 we now use without any problem with FreeBSD, there would now be the next generation, called "Gen8". Intel® C600 Series Chipset Intel® E5-2600 Processor Family Storage Controller : HP Smart Array P420i/1GB Network Controller : HP Ethernet 1Gb 4-port 331FLR Adapter (full specs: http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/14211_na/14211_na.pdf ) I am just wondering if it would also be compatible with the current version of FreeBSD. I guess it is the case at least for the cpu/chipset according to http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/hardware.html , but I miss for example the P420 or the network interface in the actual hardware list, so a confirmation before ordering would be really nice to have :) Thanks & kind regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 11:41:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46FA11065674 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:41:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4001B8FC18 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:41:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sf8R0-0001mQ-Gb for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:41:54 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-82-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.82.23]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:41:54 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-82-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:41:54 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:42:11 -0400 Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <4FD967E8.60305@dreamchaser.org> <20120614080511.0d855639.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-82-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: USB device activity when not mounted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:41:58 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:26:16 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: >> I can understand why I would see activity on a USB device >> when it's first plugged in. But why do I see continued >> activity (i.e. the light blinks on a usb disk or memory stick)? >> When I umount one of these, they keep being beat up on and >> it makes me nervous... At what point is it sync'd and safe >> to unplug? I assume when the umount returns, but what's going >> on after that? > > I don't think that's a problem. I've got a USB stick here > that has a blinkenlight as soon as it's powered on (plugged > in), even if there is no reading / writing / mounting activity. > > After you've successfully performed umount, the USB stick _is_ > synced and can safely be removed, no matter what you assume > the funny lights want to tell you. > > Maybe that's just a "modern feature" to make the USB stick "more > entertaining". :-) I think der Blinkenlights is a Windows thing - some Windows driver bit turns it on and off. When you click the 'safe to remove' thing it's supposed to turn it off to tell you it's OK to pull it out. Totally meaningless and useless 'feature' if you're not using Windows, aside from the entertainment. :-) -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 11:52:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75CBF106566C; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:52:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gg0-f182.google.com (mail-gg0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE898FC16; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:52:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnm2 with SMTP id m2so1468771ggn.13 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 04:52:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=c0q6YvGP9E41Ib3UJyKVmeN4fVCNJCBMvhqHUqkWSfc=; b=pUiKNDJ2sExpmcyQq8feG31E7S4KGQjW4S0pQPOtxTkM4KTxkte+BFoCbnYQ6YSED1 ts1gUaA2zjE+9jc3k5SjHTHHXviAhow5UZ0SwJWgePrCj4QN8QvzqHLY7KkQSnB2USvS b3fh3nT1lI66bbucIR263UuCs3ciIbD9QyaSjJGlS2jrqLxsIGPd7OfEH1nhr5e9EAAe 6ILu2dMNcdTQjqLz2sq8bir1EhITdxkmZ2A46MWvBrTnhb4Omezq3iNZu4iZZ4/XX2NX UOHywzzF5oTrKgTW5lxKqbRLAAQhcnex7LhpyvMsZpuIKSq7X79dqdnFoPdzp5ak5HG5 SiwQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.32.113 with SMTP id h17mr1470223oei.40.1339674720390; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 04:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.182.128.38 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 04:52:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1339670513.7205.27.camel@ompc.insign> References: <1339670513.7205.27.camel@ompc.insign> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:52:00 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: zEbd5l-Bj5GW5jFskA7p1y2lPxA Message-ID: From: Rick Miller To: Olivier Mueller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD compatibility with HP ProLiant DL360p Generation 8 (Gen8) ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:52:01 -0000 Reply inline... On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Olivier Mueller wrot= e: > Hello, > > I need to order a few more servers for an internal project, and instead > of the usual DL360G7 we now use without any problem with FreeBSD, there > would now be the next generation, called "Gen8". > > Intel=AE C600 Series Chipset > Intel=AE E5-2600 Processor Family > Storage Controller : HP Smart Array P420i/1GB > Network Controller : HP Ethernet 1Gb 4-port 331FLR Adapter > (full specs: http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/14211_na/14211= _na.pdf ) I cannot comment on 9.x as we have not yet tested it on the 360p G8. I can, however, say that we did not have problems with the RAID controller with stable/8. We did have problems with the on-board NIC, I don't remember what model it is, but it is based on the BCM5719 controller. We ordered a few PCIe Intel NICs and tried the 82571 which did work with stable/8. We've got on order a few of the HP NC361T, which is based on the Intel i350, which we tested in a Dell and it worked there. Again, all this is with stable/8, but generally if the driver works in 8, it will work in 9. --=20 Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 12:59:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2D0106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:59:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalescott@shaw.ca) Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB0D8FC0A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:59:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pd4ml3so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.150]) by pd3mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 14 Jun 2012 06:59:37 -0600 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=b/gStvK98Bs6YfhBwCpxRApoLO2qoBYaarCtclPE+68= c=1 sm=1 a=a10KUhFUNdwA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=s1lrx0EV61IYYNPiyc1Uww==:17 a=d4h-8H0_ed3xUYcXBVgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO HPdv9000) ([70.73.37.138]) by pd4ml3so-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 14 Jun 2012 06:59:37 -0600 From: "Dale Scott" To: "'Leslie Jensen'" , "'Matthew Seaman'" References: <4FD9B2D3.5020409@eskk.nu> <4FD9BA6C.70404@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4FD9BD3D.2090601@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FD9BD3D.2090601@eskk.nu> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:59:36 -0600 Message-ID: <019301cd4a2d$8cf5dfc0$a6e19f40$@shaw.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQI3ZOTDiiDT0m06PwquYYT/CUK1bgKA7uiBAaECFq6WBIDu4A== Content-Language: en-us Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: freebsd-update install question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:59:38 -0000 > Should I install the libc souces? I had this error when upgrading 8.x (8.1 to 8.2?), and solved it by creating the directory only (actual sources not required). I recall someone had posted this solution to the list at the time. Regards, Dale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 13:38:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE210106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:38:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293F88FC0C for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:38:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout08 with smtp id NDdy1j004516WCc01DdzuV; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:37:59 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=I8Dntacg c=1 sm=1 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=rLpCYgkgFLgA:10 a=afQzSb51MlMA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=Ec0ERD0qwZ44uMmDQoAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SfAFE-0002CZ-Ti for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:37:57 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:37:52 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4FD967E8.60305@dreamchaser.org> <20120614080511.0d855639.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120614080511.0d855639.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201206141437.52763.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) Subject: Re: USB device activity when not mounted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:38:06 -0000 On Thursday 14 June 2012 07:05:11 Polytropon wrote: > I don't think that's a problem. I've got a USB stick here > that has a blinkenlight as soon as it's powered on (plugged > in), even if there is no reading / writing / mounting activity. > > After you've successfully performed umount, the USB stick _is_ > synced and can safely be removed, no matter what you assume > the funny lights want to tell you. > > Maybe that's just a "modern feature" to make the USB stick "more > entertaining". :-) I have a Kingston one here which does appear to only blink while data is being transferred but one thing I have noticed is that the light continues to blink for a few seconds after the umount command completes. Presumably syncing is not compled until a few seconds after umount. Perhaps it's always safer to wait a few seconds after umounting before removing any USB storage device? -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 13:41:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7724E106566B for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:41:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A268FC18 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:41:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (den.cyberleo.net [216.80.73.130]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7B63029B02; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:41:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4FD9EA00.6000409@cyberleo.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:41:20 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.4) Gecko/20120513 Thunderbird/10.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: slowoffice doesn't work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:41:27 -0000 On 06/13/2012 11:49 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > trying to start openoffice shows: > > [wojtek@wojtek ~]$ openoffice-3.4.0-swriter > XDM authorization key matches an existing > client!/usr/local/openoffice-3.4.0/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin > X11 error: Can't open display: > Set DISPLAY environment variable, use -display option > or check permissions of your X-Server > (See "man X" resp. "man xhost" for details) > > > > everything else works, doing > > xhost + > > "fixed" the problem. any idea what is wrong. > deleting .openoffice doesn't change anything This was a big problem with certain programs that like to re-exec themselves very quickly upon startup. It affected Firefox[1] and Thunderbird[2] circa 2003-2004. The pedantically correct solution is to fix the limitation in the xsecurity protocol. The realistically correct solution is to fix the bug in OpenOffice. The more useful solution is to put something like this in your .xinitrc/.xsession script: ----8<---- # Tell X to authorize me xhost +si:localuser:$(id -un) >&/dev/null ----8<---- [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=246313 [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=224966 http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2011-02/msg00086.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2000/11/msg01823.html -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 13:55:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF6E1065673 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:55:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D9D8FC1C for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:55:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nber6 (nber6.nber.org [66.251.72.76]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5EDtfQ4065594; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:55:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:49:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg X-X-Sender: feenberg@nber6 To: Mike Clarke In-Reply-To: <201206141437.52763.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <4FD967E8.60305@dreamchaser.org> <20120614080511.0d855639.freebsd@edvax.de> <201206141437.52763.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20120614 #8164821, check: 20120614 clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB device activity when not mounted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:55:51 -0000 On Thu, 14 Jun 2012, Mike Clarke wrote: > On Thursday 14 June 2012 07:05:11 Polytropon wrote: >> I don't think that's a problem. I've got a USB stick here >> that has a blinkenlight as soon as it's powered on (plugged >> in), even if there is no reading / writing / mounting activity. >> >> After you've successfully performed umount, the USB stick _is_ >> synced and can safely be removed, no matter what you assume >> the funny lights want to tell you. >> Is it possible that there is volitile memory buffering in the stick that may not have been written to flash when umount thinks it is complete, and the flashing light is an indication that power is still required to complete the write to non-volitile memory? Futhermore, are we sure that umount even waits for a sync? There is no mention of that in the man page and I don't recall any long waits for umount to return. daniel feenberg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 14:07:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251AA106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:07:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B46488FC14 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:07:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 93461 invoked by uid 110); 14 Jun 2012 14:07:18 -0000 Received: from ool-4571afe7.dyn.optonline.net (HELO desktop1) (simon@optinet.com@69.113.175.231) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 14 Jun 2012 14:07:18 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "Paul Macdonald" Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:07:21 -0400 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;3) In-Reply-To: <4FD99B0A.6050105@ifdnrg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20120614140720.251AA106564A@hub.freebsd.org> Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.3 + MySQL 5.0.95 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:07:20 -0000 On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:04:26 +0100, Paul Macdonald wrote: >On 13/06/2012 19:34, Simon wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I upgrade to FreeBSD 8.3-p3 and installed MySQL 5.0.95 from ports. >> >> It runs fine until it dies silently. Does anyone run a heavy loaded MySQL >> under such setup? how can I troubleshoot this? >> >> I could never compile a stable MySQL server from the ports and always >> relied on MySQL community server binaries but there is no binary for >> latest 5.0.xx >> >> Thank you! >> Simon >> >Its not clear if you upgraded mysql or just did a vanilla fresh install, >but assuming the former, >i take it you ran the mysql_upgrade script post upgrade? >/usr/ports/databases/mysqlXX-scripts No, I did not run the mysql_upgrade because this was a minor upgrade. I was running 5.0.88 Community Server binary install built by mysql developers rock solid for long time. Then I decided to upgrade to latest 5.0.x but there is no such build for FreeBSD by the MySQL developers. So I decided to give the ports version a shot. I compiled and installed databases/mysql50-server with BUILD_STATIC The latest mysql50-server under FBSD 8.3 is 5.0.95 BTW, I'm doing this on FreeBSD 8.3-p3 AMD64 PS I just had it die on a different machine that is less loaded and uses less memory. -Simon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 14:45:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25353106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:45:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D674B8FC0A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-40-10.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.40.10]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 584D83D46C; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:45:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q5EEjk3g003404; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:45:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:45:46 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Daniel Feenberg Message-Id: <20120614164546.6e83bb12.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4FD967E8.60305@dreamchaser.org> <20120614080511.0d855639.freebsd@edvax.de> <201206141437.52763.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mike Clarke , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB device activity when not mounted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:45:54 -0000 On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:49:00 -0400 (EDT), Daniel Feenberg wrote: > Is it possible that there is volitile memory buffering in the stick that > may not have been written to flash when umount thinks it is complete, and > the flashing light is an indication that power is still required to > complete the write to non-volitile memory? That is possible, but then, the light should be silent after a finite amount of time. > Futhermore, are we sure that umount even waits for a sync? There is no > mention of that in the man page and I don't recall any long waits for > umount to return. If I remember correctly, the umount command instructs the kernel to write all pending file buffers and then detach the device from the file system hierarchy. When the device has been detached (doesn't appear anymore in mount output), everything should have been written. However, as you said it might be possible that _inside_ the USB stick there is still an action that needs to be performed and therefore requires power. But I doubt this takes several seconds to complete... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 14:59:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FA6106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:59:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will@worrbase.com) Received: from mail.worrbase.com (pony-express.csh.rit.edu [129.21.50.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E628FC19 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.worrbase.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.worrbase.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AABA3A807D for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:59:04 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=worrbase.com; h= mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from :to:cc:content-type; s=mail; bh=w4NIZR8z49FnR7q871yUvPaoaauSvTx6 NP2/2hooXuE=; b=Wa3JAax8XwNJAv5HezySh9Y0eQzV3hcrG+EZ9qEIiuP3pBLD 4zxQpv5gm843QNUDP5ypKbxTcgneQ2EMyWlugmgpZC52gHXYWGq/Nqb764RLw/YY NZfP6P3G8PbrSvcARcukc2wwcupHPBJVgw2zWlfP1uYa8wrNHRccr3ILIFs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=worrbase.com; h=mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; q=dns; s=mail; b=mdCwZmX3idnqVFTpdyjFPZbmew+O9GeG bjFUBkzfGAxElYSvPe4FWAEyv4BbJ/q6V/S75xS8gqedJbWymSS1zmyscvZjOsI5 ZdaZBa5pu9aOKCgrY5jJ9mV3pC3SW2QKZJ+FspT66tlzSgiZ2QcIGshCDn5GPJrF ajeIv7BKFuU= Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mail.worrbase.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3AA7BA8014 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:59:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lbon10 with SMTP id n10so2624803lbo.13 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:59:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.24.229 with SMTP id x5mr1185068lbf.23.1339685942579; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.84.42 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.84.42 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:59:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:59:02 -0700 Message-ID: From: William Orr To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Eitan Adler , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lost /var/db/pkg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:59:12 -0000 Thanks, it looks like I had a copy from May in there that was fairly accurate! On Jun 13, 2012 5:03 PM, "Warren Block" wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jun 2012, Eitan Adler wrote: > > On 12 June 2012 18:03, William Orr wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I had a hard disk failure some time ago, and I ended up losing >>> /var/db/pkg/ and everything under it (before you say I should've been >>> backing it up, I know, I was actually doing an initial full when this >>> happened). Is there a way I can restore it, or at least manually add >>> entries I know for sure about? >>> >> >> look in /var/db/pkgdb.bak.tbz >> > ^^^ > ITYM /var/backups/pkgdb.bak.tbz. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 15:18:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1A5106566B for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 15:18:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout05.plus.net (avasout05.plus.net [84.93.230.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7808FC19 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 15:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout05 with smtp id NFJm1j001516WCc01FJn4q; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:18:47 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=AYoz7grG c=1 sm=1 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=rLpCYgkgFLgA:10 a=afQzSb51MlMA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=a-LAJSeMAK4wfdxV45sA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:18:44 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4FD967E8.60305@dreamchaser.org> <20120614164546.6e83bb12.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120614164546.6e83bb12.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201206141618.44981.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Subject: Re: USB device activity when not mounted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 15:18:55 -0000 On Thursday 14 June 2012 15:45:46 Polytropon wrote: > However, as you said > it might be possible that _inside_ the USB stick there is > still an action that needs to be performed and therefore > requires power. That's a possibility. > But I doubt this takes several seconds to > complete... I've just run a test here. The umount command returns almost instantaneously and the light, which is normally only lit while data is flowing, flickers for about 2 seconds after the umount command. But further testing showed that it flickers for 2 seconds after reading single byte file so perhaps the blinkenlight is configured with a minimum activation time. Being cautious however, I always wait a few seconds before removing any USB stick from any computer. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 15:32:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE9B1065670 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 15:32:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7B98FC08 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 15:32:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBFBA5.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.251.165]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q5EFWEkA097910; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 15:32:14 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5EFW2FR061106; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:32:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5EFVnt4085652; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:31:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201206141531.q5EFVnt4085652@fire.js.berklix.net> To: "C. P. Ghost" From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:51:46 +0200." Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:31:49 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 15:32:22 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: "C. P. Ghost" > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:51:46 +0200 > Message-id: "C. P. Ghost" wrote: > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > > UEFI considerations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel binaries > > http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/ > > > > This would seem to make compiling from source difficult. > > > > Kurt > > I'm not sure I understand the issue, but this is my take on it > so far: > > 1. What's preventing the makers of boot loaders like GRUB (which can > also boot FreeBSD) from getting a certificate ONCE? And if they have > one, what's preventing them from loading ANY kernel at all? If you read Fedora's page they were planning to tighten their boot sequence to then only boot their approved binary kernels. Not that others ( eg us) would have to, presumably we could leave it wide open (aside of terms of purchase see discussion earlier in thread), (aside of risk of key revocation on some hardware manufacturers) Risk of key revocation later If hardware manufacturer ships new bios or uefi, or user upgrades to new UEFI (eg I as a user must upgrade a uefi soon as a laptop overheats). + if MS get away with this intrusion, next they'll consider requiring a "Call Home" demon (that could also run on *UX, I guess they'd be pleased to provide source free of charge for that next stage entrapment ! ;-) that all PC users must run periodicaly, to update UEFI table with new revised list of authorised keys. > It is only > the first stage boot loader that needs to be signed, or not? Far as I've read, yes. I wasn't sure about AMD so I looked here: /usr/ports/sysutils/grub/Makefile ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-faq.html (Re Grub 2) The current release is working on Intel/AMD PCs, OpenFirmware-based PowerPC machines (PowerMac and Pegasos), EFI-based PC (IntelMac) and coreboot (formerly, LinuxBIOS), and is being ported to UltraSparc. > 2. What's preventing anyone of us in the EU from stepping up > efforts with the EU Commission and the EU Parliament to stop > Microsoft from monopolizing the ARM (and later x86) platforms, > i.e. by becoming the only gatekeepers? After all, EU sovereign > states and their economies can't depend on a US corporation > having a global kill switch to their whole infrastructure. We're not > just talking about Windows dominance here, but a lot more: > dominance on the whole hardware segment. I'm pretty sure this > scheme is highly anti-competitive, and I guess it runs afoul of a lot > of already existing EU regulations. I think we will need to contact the EU, hence assembling URLs first: http://berklix.org/uefi/ Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. 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[84.102.21.197]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m46sm2917746eeh.9.2012.06.14.09.02.45 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FDA0B5E.4090901@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:03:42 +0200 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120602 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:53:04 +0000 Subject: No surround sound with Creative SB Live! card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:02:51 -0000 Hello, I have an old SB Live! card with a 5.1 speaker set, but i can't get sound from center and rear speakers with mplayer. I'm using the snd_emu10kx driver and when I try to play a DVD I get sound only through the front speakers (and LFE) like a 2.1 Adding -channels 6 to the mplayer args does not help. Cheers, -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 18:22:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90000106566B for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:22:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149CA8FC0C for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:22:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q5EIMSda048222; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 04:22:29 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 04:22:28 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Lynn Steven Killingsworth In-Reply-To: <20120613234107.B85DF10656D3@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20120615040137.S46641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20120613234107.B85DF10656D3@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hwpstate0 set frequency err 6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:22:32 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 419, Issue 9, Message: 2 On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:33:49 -0400 Lynn Steven Killingsworth wrote: > This is the fourth time I have installed FreeBSD while learning the in's and > out's. I have a new mainboard this time (ASUS M5A97 EVO + AMD FX 8120.) > I have set up dual booting because of a few legacy apps. When the boot of > OS gets to the login prompt I begin to get the error message 'hwpstate0 set > frequency err 6' > During installation my super-workstation started to run as though it were > getting the absolutely maximum stress test. The fans on my new Corsair H80 > started to whine as well. The 'stress test' effect starts the three next > times I have booted so I am not booting into FreeBSD at the moment. > Any advice? Only that it seems perhaps similar or related to some threads in May on freebsd-stable@ subject: "[stable 9] broken hwpstate calls" that may or may not have yet resulted in a patch you could try. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2012-May/thread.html Thread continues in June, as a perhaps more general p-state discussion. > Thanks Lynn Steven Killingsworth cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 18:26:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481FC1065670 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:26:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieterbsd@engineer.com) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 13DAA8FC12 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:26:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14675 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jun 2012 18:19:43 -0000 Received: from 67.206.184.254 by rms-us013.v300.gmx.net with HTTP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:19:38 -0400 From: "Dieter BSD" Message-ID: <20120614181940.22680@gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org,freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Authenticated: #74169980 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: GMX.com Web Mailer x-registered: 0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: a06ob7hp3zOlNR3dAHAhodl+IGRvb0CC Cc: Subject: Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:26:41 -0000 grarpamp writes: > Plenty of millionaires > out there now who are in tune with opensource who could startup, > buy the same ARM/ATOM/etc chips, the same support chips, load > Android and sell it to the masses. Would you please post a list of these millionaire FLOSS entrepreneurs? Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 18:51:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F271065672 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:51:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mixmaster@whattheflag.info) Received: from whattheflag.info (v220110691795706.yourvserver.net [188.40.182.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319828FC14 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by whattheflag.info (Postfix, from userid 104) id CE17632B10; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:42:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Dave U. Random Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <201206141531.q5EFVnt4085652@fire.js.berklix.net> Message-ID: <00882ecb3a2e442175aeb10cfad98122@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:42:18 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:51:23 -0000 > If you read Fedora's page they were planning to tighten their boot > sequence to then only boot their approved binary kernels. Save your old copies of lilo and grub. You're gonna need them if you want to stay on Intel Mafioso hardware. > Risk of key revocation later > If hardware manufacturer ships new bios or uefi, or user > upgrades to new UEFI (eg I as a user must upgrade a uefi > soon as a laptop overheats). + if MS get away with this > intrusion, next they'll consider requiring a "Call Home" > demon No, this doesn't run on the OS. It runs from UEFI in the BIOS. Internet connectivity is already part of the UEFI spec. Your box doesn't even to have to be running. As long as it's plugged in, you're at their beck and call. Say NO to the WinTel Mafia! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 19:38:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13FCF106566B for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 19:38:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBF28FC1A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 19:38:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (tor20.anonymizer.ccc.de [31.172.30.3]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 249695A87 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:38:12 +0400 (MSK) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:37:58 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120614193758.GA6419@external.screwed.box> References: <20120613202325.GC5800@external.screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120613202325.GC5800@external.screwed.box> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: `ls -l` shows size of file other than of the folder? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 19:38:21 -0000 Hello. 2012/06/14 00:23:25 +0400 Peter Vereshagin => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org: PV> ot the least how could I see the 'real' size of each of those files, both ~150M PV> actulally, with a system command? also, 'du' works that way for regular files. But implicitly I wanted about ls's key, thanks a lot guys! Kind of a very humble unadvertised feature but needed for ages in contrast from EA and ACL. Another interesting thing is that it seems to be supported by perl's stat() builtin. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E26627 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 21:35:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67642106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:35:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9C08FC16 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:35:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5ELZYJu057145; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:35:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:35:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: David Demelier In-Reply-To: <4FDA0B5E.4090901@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <4FDA0B5E.4090901@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No surround sound with Creative SB Live! card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:35:41 -0000 On Thu, 14 Jun 2012, David Demelier wrote: > I have an old SB Live! card with a 5.1 speaker set, but i can't get > sound from center and rear speakers with mplayer. > > I'm using the snd_emu10kx driver and when I try to play a DVD I get > sound only through the front speakers (and LFE) like a 2.1 > > Adding -channels 6 to the mplayer args does not help. Does the DVD source material actually have 5.1 sound? Silly question, I know, but it has to be asked. You may also want to pose this question to multimedia@ -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 21:52:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6EA2106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:52:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4685F8FC15 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:52:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds11 with SMTP id ds11so2275980wgb.31 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:52:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=lfDNiHkocV11i8lhJ4EWm9BeV8V4KWFaE1GaZGawVeE=; b=IxkUIPx8zjTCzzZtbkGoSci4YqaAGVU1B/VOWaIp+PkgQEze2o0H2u3nyq1zBziRcL dCjqgOEDcdb5vsM4tpleQC+HHwYGv+8IRpZ1FqyRBTEiTeSHQO6s8Tg2evdEQ4odncyW cSKN/HnOTma4tzV1KCaLrwX05155yU2W2W58RbAvQM/JcgIIhbktnsXEqenFz8gRz2Cd 7OrE47MkL8xNkzOaTlhUi+zHk9GvSwVxfgcKM5XsWOJWvWhmmi3LO2sifF5yUUN8EHNk WOlJZOQ+YBo+l2QAwS5OXVE1PQBYjDhRnd3W7W0p6UkFQRyvwUKhspXxh7QHTZ6yg/fh KLsA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.143.84 with SMTP id k62mr1704674wej.98.1339710768537; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.62.80 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:52:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [76.104.147.221] In-Reply-To: <20120614193758.GA6419@external.screwed.box> References: <20120613202325.GC5800@external.screwed.box> <20120614193758.GA6419@external.screwed.box> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:52:48 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: Peter Vereshagin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlFfIdbviKpIGJCKdnZVi+vZUMLdW9NT1GWeG1zgem6sh5kMSrcxhdDRmE/7C7wysh2MvC2 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: `ls -l` shows size of file other than of the folder? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:52:50 -0000 On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Peter Vereshagin w= rote: > Hello. > > 2012/06/14 00:23:25 +0400 Peter Vereshagin =3D> To= freebsd-questions@freebsd.org: > > PV> ot the least how could I see the 'real' size of each of those files, = both =A0~150M > PV> actulally, with a system command? > > also, 'du' works that way for regular files. But implicitly I wanted abou= t ls's > key, thanks a lot guys! Yes, the default for du is the actual disk usage, and "du -A" gives the apparent size. We run an OpenSolaris filer with on-the-fly compression, and I've occasionally had people express confusion after copying a large text file to it and finding the copy to be smaller than the original when viewed with 'du'. ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 14 22:08:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C831065673 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:08:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cn2i-solaire@e-mailink.fr) Received: from smtp.e-mailink.fr (smtp.e-mailink.fr [82.97.20.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CB68FC19 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:08:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.e-mailink.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.e-mailink.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03F81F63D3 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:42:02 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=e-mailink.fr; h= mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:date:to:from :reply-to:subject:message-id; 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Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.225.3 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:23:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.175.200] In-Reply-To: References: <201206081611.q58GBW0J097808@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 02:23:29 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: grarpamp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl+lHzfADoraaDijloVLmljjSaHytUsXdU4CMriPCkWJyE6KqOAPwcam10zLozwleViEKmP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 00:23:30 -0000 On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:17 AM, grarpamp wrote: > I did say "effectively". If people would actually read that chapter > in the spec (minimally 27.5) they would find that they can: > - Load a new PK without asking if in default SetupMode > - If not in SetupMode, chainload a new PK provided it is > signed by the current PK. > - Clear the PK in a 'secure platform specific method'. Only if they fully follow the spec. This is rather unlikely. Even today, there are still many broken DMI/SMBIOS tables out there that contain barely enough stuff for Windows to boot successfully. What makes you think UEFI BIOS makers will go all the trouble to implement such a complex spec, if all they have to do is to ensure compliance with MS requirements? I wouldn't count on an option or switch to override this system. Technically, we may very well have to replace the BIOS, or even the BIOS chip itself (that'll be fun if it is physically mounted on the board!), and replace it with a chip flashed with a free BIOS. And by then, the corps who are responsible for this UEFI mess will have made it illegal to 1. tinker with your own hardware, as it would be DRM circumvention and 2. implement a free UEFI BIOS as it would violate some UEFI patents. Basically, we may end up in a situation where running FreeBSD on a modified motherboard could be outright illegal. Which is exactly the point, isn't it? -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 03:20:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546C71065675 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:20:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve.bertrand@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1893B8FC0A for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:20:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so4261801obc.13 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:20:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vwJ4unhZ3KsvH0nBJTalN6qlo/R+ElmugMcyBOgDMfs=; b=p/65tBaN8hA6uAwCAjliD5Th0AlgsdTfvIS3jU8lglqSSeHU4Ixaod0BZS5apDE1aa x9yfL1r0DO19KaBqldM348ULZsc7HNtDz5Fu1ldqdWXNLKZ/dJPzgtKeY5R1kpADxJxw +/Fzc5Dl+1mmsq3gWOhROqbx8wJx8+NI+7oeNFdQ5dgIS8RpSIW+PS8v1o4dBg202Ub+ 6gFdfNHrTjGAGInmCJZnau7uf46NgvdR0vT3ZVUC9EdQvPlVMYA7BpDuE7r7sAiEabxb hq6AOq2QAgCpd9tm7RycpnQ9m8bsequSKFALosZGwJSlr2t79JwENxx7Ijeo37Z7Vkr/ LaQw== Received: by 10.50.158.233 with SMTP id wx9mr194974igb.42.1339730430464; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.193.135.217] (static-66-225-133-218.ptr.terago.net. [66.225.133.218]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id rd8sm275163igb.3.2012.06.14.20.20.27 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:20:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FDAA9F3.8050308@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:20:19 -0600 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Uptime [OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:20:31 -0000 I still have non-root access to a box from my old job... it is non-available and doing nothing, so updates are irrelevant: %uptime 9:01PM up 1142 days, 5:29, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 03:35:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1861106566C for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:35:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (feld.me [66.170.3.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97FC18FC14 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:35:13 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Cc:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=D2Bwbjs2r0VyHq7DlZatdMMzpbqGcqR/MPsOt8ZEUkE=; b=gGFiskaUpXH9XtZB0SN9yD56NxrNAD4S1GIsqFqtjgXY6AtNxZfgqV0Udfmu21cDxKidwzCxWr5YCcmPhiJ+ra86EVLy1oIJntLknCrjR4PXMSlIoQIIURhOBEqlZxqJ; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SfNJW-0003iQ-5e; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:35:11 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1339731304-26372-26371/5/78; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:35:04 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FDAA9F3.8050308@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:35:03 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4FDAA9F3.8050308@gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Steve Bertrand Subject: Re: Uptime [OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:35:13 -0000 In production and survived many area-wide power outages: % uptime 10:34PM up 2021 days, 18:02, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 03:35:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0A81065670 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:35:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve.bertrand@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gg0-f182.google.com (mail-gg0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304CF8FC1B for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnm2 with SMTP id m2so2308280ggn.13 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:35:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dxTCrX5PfFROPzh1oHwILjzXHb6YquybAdw+lygR7aM=; b=aPelqAscYmcqvXHzJXpmooV2JEMy9ZWD020VnNKpSAFnuKnFxUddQvD0nlVD1tSsY/ 4mOLaSLlUjW7aYjFmxSyrPRFkYUqXT11QxxOOe4SjNDCxKA6lCAkeONtCQM/MaLhtXtB RK11gBxK0N6mMl4ijFNwMTt0R9ECCEqVfk8acU1VRB98gDMAh709Vr8b7lRIzhNB+8Zb 8VC5U6NNSMqslXTOzQ+peGeqXpl2ElOLJDFT04mhJIJG4WtU7QTf6Zx3GXxAMmDXKhVp 0fNCjHuKNhJ3U97VILxHpGTNnxmL4aixL5QlM5LS5UIZKX20bgDkwCRlwx+feNjvj6PN p4fw== Received: by 10.50.220.194 with SMTP id py2mr251825igc.15.1339731352231; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.193.135.217] (static-66-225-133-217.ptr.terago.net. [66.225.133.217]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vi7sm306075igb.10.2012.06.14.20.35.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FDAAD94.9080409@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:35:48 -0600 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <4FDAA9F3.8050308@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4FDAA9F3.8050308@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Uptime [OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:35:53 -0000 On 14/06/2012 9:20 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > I still have non-root access to a box from my old job... it is > non-available and doing nothing, so updates are irrelevant: > > %uptime > 9:01PM up 1142 days, 5:29, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 fwiw: %uname -a FreeBSD xxxx.xxxx.xxx 7.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE #1: Wed Apr 29 06:34:04 EDT 2009 steve@xxx.xxxx.xxx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/xxxx i386 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 03:38:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C1B106564A for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve.bertrand@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CF68FC18 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:38:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhgm50 with SMTP id m50so2454406yhg.13 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:38:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hvT17TvorxHgBSJBaHPCPX7xmtvGbxJuchvvj2JJaqE=; b=yWPXMEWN3YoY1SI7yGMYJJhWnalkkk2Y+Y/sM3grXpxnTy5/DqGRBYUxz1daL1My4I AMYqEMueWw4G6KElLJTWbHYC64QWWa5dVS34HZigtDHc08X3i2IRjZ37aZiWwXd6dfSC EVCCt+r3o2VivqSb6EO4Q+k0adpad+gnYzm0q+XjcOaa++YIoSk6Ykau9kKJ7xnTC7aU jH65kOh6ZaAQwiRryyE6Ug8+I/uObcy/5cnl9uoJJu3YxDZt9UJ1yktYAT0ZDc6eu85i riRiZJBvRcM+lXFlKtXcmGUI+OtDinRt6xZxPFXO0TB+s6PYqRReNRZ8DSE2Ygi9uxkc AlpA== Received: by 10.50.185.163 with SMTP id fd3mr251391igc.22.1339731481474; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:38:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.193.135.217] (static-66-225-133-217.ptr.terago.net. [66.225.133.217]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id if4sm210678igc.10.2012.06.14.20.38.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FDAAE17.5000300@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:37:59 -0600 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Felder References: <4FDAA9F3.8050308@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Uptime [OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:38:02 -0000 On 14/06/2012 9:35 PM, Mark Felder wrote: > In production and survived many area-wide power outages: > > % uptime > 10:34PM up 2021 days, 18:02, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 That's hardcore homie... wow! What does this box survive to do? Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 03:38:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6776D1065670 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:38:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38FF78FC0C for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:38:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so4979400pbb.13 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:38:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kSniPLm/6G77Vl1h1+xxWIxeuAcPVnKz+heFQ9/xSsU=; b=jzuzYJ/tHIQthj8K5lmMusOIYQdU3dovbfdJ+h7BG/VWYMkF0fH5dD2ZtMxfQ48uL6 eKPyG9U0tqlXxXwNqX/Nema4khWC40r78juIy7jItdzzct7nDRM0eQucxz76lLlEY8el Emc3I935iawBUIWPqC996lZtkSmnTL6ZAPKxK+sjtbrBNTV5Au7ZpsyKuQSdqQ0NqsN0 FFlm9jIx3gR4zNOJrUu6wb7B/gdOL+Q8G9KzDaxO/7lDpvr1JQyRscNrU0eRW3yygYpG eZJdoh24UDznL0V82Tquw2M2BNLgjt+sUUnSZDa6tRPlmpePdvUbK2sIblGsNhdnrt5V dgTQ== Received: by 10.68.221.72 with SMTP id qc8mr15188256pbc.63.1339731517879; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id np8sm11687200pbc.71.2012.06.14.20.38.36 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FDAAF5E.4040500@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:43:26 -0700 From: Edward M User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120605 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FDA0B5E.4090901@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4FDA0B5E.4090901@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: No surround sound with Creative SB Live! card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:38:38 -0000 On 06/14/2012 09:03 AM, David Demelier wrote: > I have an old SB Live! card with a 5.1 speaker set, but i can't get > sound from center and rear speakers with mplayer. > > I'm using the snd_emu10kx driver and when I try to play a DVD I get > sound only through the front speakers (and LFE) like a 2.1 > > Adding -channels 6 to the mplayer args does not help. > > Cheers, Sounds like the DVD surround audio is encoded in AC-3 Dolby Digital or DTS. So a decorder is needed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 03:43:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291211065672 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (feld.me [66.170.3.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25D08FC12 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:43:19 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:Content-Type; bh=qxAuoWEkyXpeSgKjvWdqhWttLcEpSUgwQLoic7suZmA=; b=EnCIwBESacPWCLCG3O2woXi67hIeCW5I/o3ym9BnRtoR6IOLTe6nkOhy6JoKzIvcyYSLbKyUWb6I70affjNDBJ4/BlfyYx+l5UhYYsT6tGdp4KSzqRITFznDkDJv5HYj; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SfNRP-0003w6-32; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:43:19 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1339731793-26372-26371/5/79; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:43:13 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <4FDAA9F3.8050308@gmail.com> <4FDAAE17.5000300@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:43:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4FDAAE17.5000300@gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Steve Bertrand Subject: Re: Uptime [OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:43:20 -0000 On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:37:59 -0500, Steve Bertrand wrote: > That's hardcore homie... wow! > What does this box survive to do? Transparent traffic shaping/firewalling via IPFW; it's not actually visible to the internet. There isn't much load at all, but the hardware is quickly aging. The dual power supply has saved it a few times, too. I think there's another server which I believe is close to 2600 days uptime but I'll have to brainstorm and see if I can remember which one it is. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 03:51:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17989106568B for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:51:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve.bertrand@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC4B8FC12 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:51:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so4990815pbb.13 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:51:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wktEM6Nohdmg20bIsphhIsFJX/lNYUVFP1KV8LwlKxU=; b=eth6qoYKlRkw6rYoOOmqs9uCxvsPkYAMUMXvegpS3D7uM0AO0E6s//cEPLSjKfyOQk 2C5x10Kkl7zqi+5t1K3t15vLff2EaB6DQ5AyhNSRyItEDiIRW9O0SSh2S8U1xNn/Dzaz +SSGLsLbnclIhnkpjKDpLuHqwd46Az6M4Hmo/sSV+graNEtnx8G8vubZ9bbVBfL0LSJo p0r8RJ0y5eXZKQKvWoqH7iqkotDvG4/5ULa5ZQJN+ZuZ2L/Wg0+m2Y3bxIqh/pQhOtCV x8j5moBe6jPlc5f9hLKRpXEELoYl/TUc9Ie+xWAKfdTXpV1P/onR0l+/fDoLZiiydEo0 ASGw== Received: by 10.68.203.7 with SMTP id km7mr15784496pbc.7.1339732294689; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.193.135.217] (static-66-225-133-217.ptr.terago.net. [66.225.133.217]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pg3sm11753604pbc.2.2012.06.14.20.51.33 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FDAB144.6040102@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:51:32 -0600 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Felder References: <4FDAA9F3.8050308@gmail.com> <4FDAAE17.5000300@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Uptime [OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:51:35 -0000 On 14/06/2012 9:43 PM, Mark Felder wrote: > On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:37:59 -0500, Steve Bertrand > wrote: > >> That's hardcore homie... wow! >> What does this box survive to do? > > > Transparent traffic shaping/firewalling via IPFW; it's not actually > visible to the internet. There isn't much load at all, but the hardware > is quickly aging. The dual power supply has saved it a few times, too. I > think there's another server which I believe is close to 2600 days > uptime but I'll have to brainstorm and see if I can remember which one > it is. lmao... you must be a sysadmin ;) IPFW is all I've used on FreeBSD. I designed an ISP edge based on Microtic hardware with flash-based FBSD installs with Quagga and IPFW. I was hesitant to change to anything else, because I wrote an awful lot of Perl code that automated IPFW changes across the network. I don't use FBSD as much as I used to, but I still stick to my roots and write most of my code on it. I don't maintain many servers with it anymore though. This is why I thought I'd speak up... to let everyone know I'm still alive and kicking. Apparently, so is one of my boxes ;) Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 03:51:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31201065694 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:51:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (feld.me [66.170.3.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8FBF8FC17 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:51:53 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Cc:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=dcN2fOU6/v5EOYhXQ+nR01LJ/YBTZ34AzyLBUtQU9Cw=; b=cKRB18sCgVI2zQBY8MyKALQX9GtpFxwVMxig70dJVf7x6nA7P1KMehzcuv9qxBZ9l7ZNhzAxVG36uxCYx22XwiN9aOyWxA3y1wxioNAG15rISjTXklBKDFJamwM/g+G5; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SfNZh-0004EM-1R; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:51:53 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1339732307-26372-26371/5/80; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:51:47 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <4FDAA9F3.8050308@gmail.com> <4FDAAD94.9080409@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:51:45 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4FDAAD94.9080409@gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Steve Bertrand Subject: Re: Uptime [OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:51:54 -0000 FreeBSD REDACTED 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Nov 15 16:29:10 CST 2006 root@REDACTED:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/IPFW-POLING-ALTQ i386 Theres no way I'm giving out the organization name or hostname haha. We're slowly moving customers away from this device, but not forcing anyone. I wonder if the technician who compiled that kernel considered how long it would run.... Oh, perhaps this thread should be renamed to "Why are you using FreeBSD?" to fit in with the others... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 04:21:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12239106564A for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 04:21:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988068FC15 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 04:21:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhj8 with SMTP id hj8so65905wib.13 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:21:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=EXGMNO4sLLXuJ22iaAKtXHlM8O1KF7QnD95HaNypwto=; b=WXBwekNgglEt0zlo1lN4m4f6OOtf4XYxxcF4J2wXyeARPVqRH2UwjTNSCjkbqA3vR6 jTl/UDs33/cYWeVtXx/d7oEjh0wDJgFCGZ4c6Ty/TWvybXY9/+Q0R48648eRx5lBW7Io d24Qbbd37EPAwUFmq3ZjjMbPeyHANNe/mKKAVtask4I9ijhxaU6HaH+g7GEczNe/a8Q1 EVhuED8WAYKwLSA8Jck002t00D29QDNwDxjLtghhkez/GySze27rYiLnvh22C66lbImg GYoMLnvDZtFPCGM4UI5MGr3Cnppu3VIwCUBoiKWG16/CIWhQBpvQ1FPQu59xR8WJal0Y /LOg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.207.27 with SMTP id m27mr2283299weo.42.1339734060548; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.7.105 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:21:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20120614081107.c0439718.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 00:21:00 -0400 Message-ID: From: grarpamp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: `ls -l` shows size of file other than of the folder? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 04:21:02 -0000 >>> > The following creates a file with a size of 1024000002 (a gig) >>> > fseek(stdout, 1000000*1024, SEEK_END); >>> Nope :) What you have there is not actually called (anything). >> It would maybe be called a MKiB. :-) I'll buy that, if someone chips in the deuce :) > In SI units it is called a gigabyte. No, it's not called anything. > Everyone knows what he talking about so playing semantic > games is silly. Rockets crash due to assumptions and trivializing semantics. "That's why you never can stop learning in IT, and fighting bad habits in all imaginable areas. :-)" > Can we move on to real questions? :) Ok :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 07:30:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42686106566B for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:30:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacqui@somethingsocial.com.au) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118778FC0A for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:30:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadv36 with SMTP id v36so3848583dad.13 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 00:30:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=TUpN12UOYN/7676OvbOVaI3FU33LI6cLYeTQtu6030w=; b=bqStNI5tmIZjLCHDANwpxOx/CPzPnzhVfCtkC5nF8ZDIL8J1LnuXNDr62Pgha2OpIm Iw1EcLtjdx2uSZGHXg++QB7vYMP4I+pR7XY1s4oxOAY95jWGcmP2jn3hmp8sLqsTElG3 Tm1dxW/5Lj4NuNIdo3EFfVAJLqd+E3bNsy3GnwGYhYHZqgK0VUMReYC8zs0athTUL4lw E/ZbGHRjGLcE/IuMDlC1Umuqi47RuRaeHEIAWvCcreef0+rt/r6hZ1z9eUX1lLJmPYOu cN4VUk7bB8IzYh6X/QLOzCd84DcOYWwai3xhuweGqsjbjd5ID4cO0TLHJ65zfq1ATPTY 7kbw== Received: by 10.68.231.40 with SMTP id td8mr17181871pbc.150.1339745458628; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 00:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([114.73.86.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wi8sm12350414pbc.11.2012.06.15.00.30.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 00:30:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Jacqueline Parlane Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:30:23 +1000 Message-Id: <078B045D-F00A-4F0C-8716-A41C9BC1867E@somethingsocial.com.au> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlslf/99LrUDPt/O8QcRI+4xuMwnETAuh4jCRj22iHDV3KhZbwGAswyfBfOcHeK/kK2c5D2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Account access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:30:59 -0000 Hi there Just hoping I can hear back from someone on the process to unlock one of = my clients accounts with http://freedns.afraid.org/ please.=20 Her previous web developer is no longer in contact and we need to put in = place some domain redirects and access a mailing list. I look forward to hearing from you. Kind Regards Jacqueline From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 09:22:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A46106566B for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:22:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbsd@isgroup.com.ua) Received: from mail.standard.com.ua (mail.isgroup.com.ua [46.229.54.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1288FC0C for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:22:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unused-213.111.71.69.bilink.ua [213.111.71.69] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.standard.com.ua (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5F9FQTD015439 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:15:26 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from mbsd@isgroup.com.ua) From: mbsd To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:22:37 +0300 Message-ID: <1339752157.58075.24.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=9.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.isgroup.com.ua Subject: Freebsd without swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:22:51 -0000 Hi there. Now I'm using FreeBSD 9 without swap, and without additional swap - related configurations. Ξ ~ → gpart show => 34 234441581 ada0 GPT (111G) 34 128 1 freebsd-boot (64k) 162 234441453 2 freebsd-zfs (111G) Ξ ~ → pstat -T 3857/12328 files 0M/0M swap space And all work perfectly or that seems to me :). My working machine is ThinkPad T61 with 4G ram. I'm typically desktop user. And the question is: Does it correct to use freebsd like this? Or I need specific setup? Option NO_SWAPPING if I understand right not for this purpose. Sysctl vm.swap_enabled=0 seems to be useful. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 09:26:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECA1106564A for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:26:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp3.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78F58FC18 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:26:16 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=+QzkXfe0R8oRsiyvwD5pBrXDRfGcOyX1E93NfMIywl8= c=1 sm=0 a=wCgxh-GooxwA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=7o6BAiiPcsg9edVc7gEA:9 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp01.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:35053] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 17/97-18914-61FFADF4; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 05:23:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 05:23:34 -0400 Message-ID: <17.97.18914.61FFADF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Gary Aitken Subject: USB device activity when not mounted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:26:17 -0000 > I can understand why I would see activity on a USB device when it's first plugged in. But why do I see continued activity (i.e. the light blinks on a usb disk or memory stick)? When I umount one of these, they keep being beat up on and it makes me nervous... At what point is it sync'd and safe to unplug? I assume when the umount returns, but what's going on after that? > Gary _______________________________________________ I had that problem/quirk with a SanDisk Cruzer 8 GB USB stick. Light would slowly blink in all OSes (FreeBSD, NetBSD, Linux) I use, but not in FreeDOS. This even happened before mounting and persisted after umounting. I just tested on the new computer, running FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #10 amd64, got the slow blink even without mounting. No other USB sticks ever did this in my experience, though I can't speak for brands I've never used. USB sticks are not all created equal. One lot of Kingston Data Travelers would not work in NetBSD but were good in Linux and FreeBSD, and even FreeDOS and OpenIndiana on the new computer. Other USB sticks, including Kingston Data Travelers, worked in NetBSD as well as Linux and FreeBSD. But I was not able to install OpenIndiana on the new computer because it couldn't access a GPT-partitioned hard drive, neither could FreeDOS. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 09:58:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D61CF1065688 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:58:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519378FC12 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:58:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBDEB4.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.222.180]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q5F9wQki015051; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:58:27 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5F9wFfB065206; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:58:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5F9w3N9023951; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:58:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201206150958.q5F9w3N9023951@fire.js.berklix.net> To: "C. P. Ghost" From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 15 Jun 2012 02:23:29 +0200." Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:58:03 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:58:40 -0000 Hi Cordula, Good points you made. The sooner it's blocked the easier to block. *BSD, + *Linux, Solaris etc people could start contacting their local anti monopoly / anti free trade, government departments to give them time to look into the issues. If eg EU commision found it a monopolist conspiracy, & imposed swingeing fines like on Microsoft last time, that could persuade Asian mainboard manufacturers not to monopolise with Microsoft. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 10:48:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A716E1065670 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:48:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmx@ross.cx) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654CB8FC08 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:48:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [92.76.95.179] (helo=michael-think) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.74) (envelope-from ) id 1SfTpF-0000Fz-Q1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:32:21 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:32:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.3/15046/Fri Jun 15 00:12:54 2012) Subject: Trigger action on link state change X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:48:49 -0000 Hi all, i was wondering if there is any ready-made method to trigger an action as soon as a link changes state. Along the lines of onifdown_em0="/run/this/script" in rc.conf Background: Discussing physical data security with a client yesterday: The machine has to run 24/7. The filesystem is encrypted on boot, but this doesn't help a lot if anybody brings an AC generator to steal the machine *AND* the UPS. Best point in time to lock the machine I could think of was when somebody pulls the NIC cable. Regards, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 10:53:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8011F106566C for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:53:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384B88FC17 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:53:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.130.112] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SfU9d-0003KZ-Hk for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:53:25 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5FArNRg001944 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:53:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q5FArMUG001943 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:53:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:53:22 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120615105321.GA1904@tiny.Sisis.de> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.130.112 Subject: Re: Trigger action on link state change X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:53:27 -0000 El día Friday, June 15, 2012 a las 12:32:15PM +0200, Michael Ross escribió: > > Hi all, > > i was wondering if there is any ready-made method to trigger an action as > soon as a link changes state. > Along the lines of > onifdown_em0="/run/this/script" > in rc.conf Hi, check the man pages of devd(8) and devd.conf(5) HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 08:00:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56CD106566B for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 08:00:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0DF8FC18 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 08:00:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so929298eek.13 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 01:00:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4CRCJu4HLzOBRf3oSJ81BlVUfeuIkOgFiwfkSdhJd9k=; b=X3Mn8S6jo+PLf87Hcc3dVP8VspZiP3wAPasWS3fgMRsHIcpEkO6gFWJYzqGMF2N9qY +rn1FqTgcRS5CopV6JHeSRnjmjm92kRTRUeH50rqijBEIfRrUFUtmVHeaFkjEclT+9Od pjvxO+b7iD7doZ9OcXg0KAowNV0asqdZRH7GmvaVDsMAOKqcwU2euHG6LE5m5ZiWy6JK 7wi8KZNppPxBsEzPcQEDhzgOIMQ+cChgEHhPdMsg0uMsOayc5jN9b7UowJJ2JA5kjc7M 699PdDBqEq0RYDHQZq01lODeVbMek7IEngxWxTwHCTl80zL0lPXD7qTjsAHW4DGTadQA J54g== Received: by 10.14.48.72 with SMTP id u48mr1150581eeb.151.1339747210886; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 01:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Groseille.malikania.fr (197.21.102.84.rev.sfr.net. [84.102.21.197]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h53sm27866566eea.1.2012.06.15.01.00.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 01:00:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FDAEBC3.40307@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:01:07 +0200 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120602 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Hill References: <4FDA0B5E.4090901@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:05:58 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No surround sound with Creative SB Live! card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 08:00:14 -0000 On 14/06/2012 23:35, Chris Hill wrote: > On Thu, 14 Jun 2012, David Demelier wrote: > >> I have an old SB Live! card with a 5.1 speaker set, but i can't get >> sound from center and rear speakers with mplayer. >> >> I'm using the snd_emu10kx driver and when I try to play a DVD I get >> sound only through the front speakers (and LFE) like a 2.1 >> >> Adding -channels 6 to the mplayer args does not help. > > Does the DVD source material actually have 5.1 sound? Silly question, I > know, but it has to be asked. > Yes it has I think, "Dolby digitial" is written on it, but it also works on Linux and Windows. > You may also want to pose this question to multimedia@ > > I did, but no one answered :(. Cheers, -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 11:12:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFEE21065670 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:12:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5688FC0A for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:12:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eabm6 with SMTP id m6so1000748eab.13 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 04:12:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=/swa/j4IZ2zcndTtfduF7/e/cNKDCjxwd+Qxhv77JHM=; b=PcJ5yD1X43GSdJjAA0qHugftrWU0dpuI47TXZajh5zdLcZr+bjhWjVDkeTueaOUlOG K4Sk8qOwCyYkKJzsZJiScsDzUhGFCGmn1tUnh5fILhNgfGM1KSIGtd4SdSsv5lMYXhZr s4Q5hbiBy16hJ0kRm0wraEhWCUKzdibpIx8t6HH/rVKkDyXfZJ12Ed/yvGedM6+gyTXG gwkSZryniRCuZd81l2U6JZm7Li+NcGKeBf1/3X1R3eGxMc6Ec+mEn3aFPvY9ZzGbVoxo v2pB4E429GFkAet2tUorIYfaqlWAbHGMBl5fqer9tzdurM1w7iXTd8GvYPwrpq+btrT/ lt9w== Received: by 10.14.45.68 with SMTP id o44mr1345569eeb.66.1339758764181; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 04:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e45sm29690650eeb.6.2012.06.15.04.12.38 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 04:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FDB18A5.6020004@my.gd> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:12:37 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkc3IRj7NfTgtyHEqlfX31xGaqUZVDGF5Cn25vSrZ/eshoKbSTo6yjFcV6ZxRwgJ9SsLIMd Subject: Re: Trigger action on link state change X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:12:45 -0000 On 6/15/12 12:32 PM, Michael Ross wrote: > > Hi all, > > i was wondering if there is any ready-made method to trigger an action > as soon as a link changes state. > Along the lines of > onifdown_em0="/run/this/script" > in rc.conf > > Background: > Discussing physical data security with a client yesterday: The machine > has to run 24/7. The filesystem is encrypted on boot, but this doesn't > help a lot if anybody brings an AC generator to steal the machine *AND* > the UPS. Best point in time to lock the machine I could think of was > when somebody pulls the NIC cable. > > Regards, > > Michael Aside from Matthias' suggestion of devd, you may want to also look up ifstated. We actually use it in production to send nagios passive alerts on CARP status change and LAGG interface loss of fault tolerance. 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[84.102.21.197]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m46sm9943396eeh.9.2012.06.15.01.05.17 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 01:05:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FDAECF8.4080007@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:06:16 +0200 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120602 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FDA0B5E.4090901@gmail.com> <4FDAAF5E.4040500@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4FDAAF5E.4040500@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:16:58 +0000 Subject: Re: No surround sound with Creative SB Live! card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 08:05:21 -0000 On 15/06/2012 05:43, Edward M wrote: > On 06/14/2012 09:03 AM, David Demelier wrote: >> I have an old SB Live! card with a 5.1 speaker set, but i can't get >> sound from center and rear speakers with mplayer. >> >> I'm using the snd_emu10kx driver and when I try to play a DVD I get >> sound only through the front speakers (and LFE) like a 2.1 >> >> Adding -channels 6 to the mplayer args does not help. >> >> Cheers, > > Sounds like the DVD surround audio is encoded in AC-3 Dolby Digital or > DTS. So a decorder is needed. > That's what mplayer says: ========================================================================== Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 6 ch, s16le, 448.0 kbit/9.72% (ratio: 56000->576000) Selected audio codec: [ffac3] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg AC-3) ========================================================================== AO: [oss] 48000Hz 6ch s16le (2 bytes per sample) What do you mean by "a decoder is needed"? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Cheers, -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 11:27:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A261065679 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:27:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2908FC19 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:27:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q5FBRBsS001916; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:27:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4FDB1BB0.8060800@bananmonarki.se> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:25:36 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120607 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Demelier References: <4FDA0B5E.4090901@gmail.com> <4FDAAF5E.4040500@gmail.com> <4FDAECF8.4080007@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4FDAECF8.4080007@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No surround sound with Creative SB Live! card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:27:19 -0000 On 2012-06-15 10:06, David Demelier wrote: > On 15/06/2012 05:43, Edward M wrote: >> On 06/14/2012 09:03 AM, David Demelier wrote: >>> I have an old SB Live! card with a 5.1 speaker set, but i can't get >>> sound from center and rear speakers with mplayer. >>> >>> I'm using the snd_emu10kx driver and when I try to play a DVD I get >>> sound only through the front speakers (and LFE) like a 2.1 >>> >>> Adding -channels 6 to the mplayer args does not help. >>> >>> Cheers, >> >> Sounds like the DVD surround audio is encoded in AC-3 Dolby Digital or >> DTS. So a decorder is needed. >> > > That's what mplayer says: > > ========================================================================== > Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders > AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 6 ch, s16le, 448.0 kbit/9.72% (ratio: 56000->576000) > Selected audio codec: [ffac3] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg AC-3) > ========================================================================== > AO: [oss] 48000Hz 6ch s16le (2 bytes per sample) > > What do you mean by "a decoder is needed"? Have you tried vlc or xine? 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[72.95.111.42]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cz12sm21952565qab.5.2012.06.15.04.36.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 04:36:22 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:36:20 -0400 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lynn Steven Killingsworth Organization: Blue Seahorse Syndicate Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (Win64) Subject: Error in latest KDE4 install attempt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:36:23 -0000 Hi FreeBSD - I have just updated my Ports again this morning and I still have the same problem installing KDE4. When verifying libphonon.so in /multimedia/phonon [phonon-4.6.0-1][from the numbers it appears to be KDE4 4.8.4] my machine does not find library qzeitgeist.1 so it begins verifying the install of qzeitgeist-0.8.0 . The installer then determines that this version of qzeitgeist is not compatible. Since the master site seems to be unavailable much of the time how can I determine the tar.gz from the version number so that I may have an for instance //ftp1.freebsd.org/.... to put in the the master site change in the make fetch command? Thanks - Steve -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 11:48:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47EBA1065672 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:48:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9D78FC14 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:48:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so1020028eek.13 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 04:48:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jEn2+ageBquLEJjfkqhHOP0nNy/vCx78MH/EGxsIS5E=; b=Miiy9B7lV34d46iZXEdK7CcZ0zW14QWWlmDQ7oQKMlea6Qj2Jmf88lyq1HmuG2Q4nV UDkyb9GhbBDfJe5IkFF8CvSqNacCRkLi+FWUTaKinhzN6GHZfmrQ+ZGiPZdiiX1kijd7 C6Ivvn9hPb/LPsJFIcaR4Z+Sa+DbMPCGbNRLBSxBUB5dmcRFt4IhVanX3Npaov3oQoa3 ZlkIoB2Gy2RCOOs79qawl+OgiCBlu6T4ga85SbuCGGU9WE6PODYIdrQM2NgXjm1HdiPH mW575fmo5Lxosrw40EIv132+65r2XJMIOcUAwY6zAY5oTV8n/y9O0oFd7Ay9NYEfJ6QF psfA== Received: by 10.14.45.68 with SMTP id o44mr1371245eeb.66.1339760896816; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 04:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q53sm30031276eef.8.2012.06.15.04.48.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 04:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:48:13 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120615124813.4bb28623@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <1339752157.58075.24.camel@localhost> References: <1339752157.58075.24.camel@localhost> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Freebsd without swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:48:18 -0000 On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:22:37 +0300 mbsd wrote: > Hi there. > > Now I'm using FreeBSD 9 without swap, and without additional swap - > related configurations. >.. > And the question is: > Does it correct to use freebsd like this? Or I need specific setup? > > Option NO_SWAPPING if I understand right not for this purpose. > Sysctl vm.swap_enabled=0 seems to be useful. NO_SWAPPING builds-out code related to paging to swap along with the related sysctl options, and is probably what you are after. vm.swap_enabled enables actual swapping in addition to normal paging when short of memory, and isn't relevant if you have no swap space. 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[87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u14sm30235843eem.4.2012.06.15.05.07.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 05:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:07:35 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120615130735.39c11377@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20120615124813.4bb28623@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <1339752157.58075.24.camel@localhost> <20120615124813.4bb28623@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Freebsd without swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:07:40 -0000 On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:48:13 +0100 RW wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:22:37 +0300 > mbsd wrote: > > > Hi there. > > > > Now I'm using FreeBSD 9 without swap, and without additional swap - > > related configurations. > >.. > > And the question is: > > Does it correct to use freebsd like this? Or I need specific setup? Sorry, missed this bit. No, you don't have to do anything. > > Option NO_SWAPPING if I understand right not for this purpose. > > Sysctl vm.swap_enabled=0 seems to be useful. > > NO_SWAPPING builds-out code related to paging to swap along with the > related sysctl options, and is probably what you are after. > > vm.swap_enabled enables actual swapping in addition to normal paging > when short of memory, and isn't relevant if you have no swap space. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 12:27:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 016941065676 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:27:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0AF48FC0A for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:27:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SfVcv-0003lV-Jy for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:27:45 +0200 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:27:45 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:27:45 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:27:36 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 24 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:13.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/13.0) Subject: libreoffice package and port troubles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:27:56 -0000 Hi, FreeBSD 9.0. I can not build a port of LibreOffice: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/168717 I can not install package too: # pkg_add -r libreoffice Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9.0-release/Latest libreoffice.tbz...lib/libreoffice/basis3.4/program/libunopkgapp.so: bzip decompression failed ... < 123 errors about dependencies out of sync due to prior ports updates > ... pkg_add: warning: package 'libreoffice-3.4.4' requires 'libwpg-0.2.0_1', but 'libwpg-0.2.1_1' is installed # Could we somehow improve on this process ? jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 12:49:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F31106567A for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:49:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065018FC0A for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:49:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q5FCnnKF019002 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:49:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:49:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201206151249.q5FCnnKF019002@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Uptime [OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:49:08 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 14 22:56:16 2012 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:51:45 -0500 > From: Mark Felder > Cc: Steve Bertrand > Subject: Re: Uptime [OT] > > FreeBSD REDACTED 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Nov 15 16:29:10 > CST 2006 root@REDACTED:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/IPFW-POLING-ALTQ i386 > > Theres no way I'm giving out the organization name or hostname haha. We're > slowly moving customers away from this device, but not forcing anyone. > > I wonder if the technician who compiled that kernel considered how long it > would run.... Heh. check out -this- one: % uname -a ****** ******************** *** **** ****** *** Kernel #0: Thu Mar 20 16:40:01 CST 1997 ************************:/usr/src/sys/compile/LOCAL i386 The build date _is_ accurate, the hardware it's running on is old enough to vote. It's publicly accessible on the Internet, It's not quite as ridiculous as it looks, the (limited) apps running on it _are_ up-to-date. Uptime is nothing to brag about -- no UPS, combined with 'unreliable' public utility power, does have an impact. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 12:53:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49762106566B for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:53:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05DD8FC12 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:53:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Footer: b3NlLm5s Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:43:23 +0200 Message-ID: <4FDB2DE8.4040201@ose.nl> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:43:20 +0200 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FDAA9F3.8050308@gmail.com> <4FDAAD94.9080409@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Uptime [OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:53:34 -0000 On 06/15/2012 05:51 AM, Mark Felder wrote: > FreeBSD REDACTED 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Nov 15 16:29:10 > CST 2006 root@REDACTED:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/IPFW-POLING-ALTQ i386 > > Theres no way I'm giving out the organization name or hostname haha. We're > slowly moving customers away from this device, but not forcing anyone. > > I wonder if the technician who compiled that kernel considered how long it > would run.... > > > Oh, perhaps this thread should be renamed to "Why are you using FreeBSD?" > to fit in with the others... Nice. Here's another one. Used mainly for imap proxy and ipfw. Too bad it will be moved to another physical location in a week or two. $ uptime 2:38PM up 2266 days, 20:43, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 13:35:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F2F1065670 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:35:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ra@iop.kiev.ua) Received: from rmaile.iop.kiev.ua (rmaile.iop.kiev.ua [194.44.164.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD638FC08 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:35:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.10.10.4] (k1-phoebus.iop.kiev.ua [10.10.10.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by rmaile.iop.kiev.ua (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5FAIZsY026602 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:18:42 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ra@iop.kiev.ua) Message-ID: <4FDB27DB.4090500@iop.kiev.ua> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 15:17:31 +0300 From: "Andrey S. Rybak" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.4) Gecko/20120510 Icedove/10.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at rmaile.iop.kiev.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.3 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on rmaile.iop.kiev.ua Subject: milter wants erase sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:35:06 -0000 hello! i use bundle sendmail and milter greylist on my e-mail freebsd server. every time I want upgrade milter-greylist it wants install sendmail port. But I use sendmail+tls+sasl2 port. There is conflict. I should deinstall sendmail+tls+sasl, install milter-greylist, deinstall sendmail and then install sendmail+tls+sasl2. Every time doing so I think something going not elegant. Is there more simple path to upgrade milter-greylist? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 13:53:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955CE1065674 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:53:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A668FC08 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:53:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkvi18 with SMTP id i18so2967671bkv.13 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:53:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=w5JItzdYSMpeJy+47+JYSqBAdNplViBDjT7WJZ5iF1A=; b=Lfnts5KoEznDxnt6dKgZchF4MGqpK/x0WUxsPLopIQJPlWszMHGSfPT0hB3s6NIwR7 PIgHdn6CW8IjUj0HqrfQ2JDPlO6pbtKghR2jX3F27qlbWbQ+1J3VuiIziJz6Lbjszivl TDnJ4h/pWtActsdKCQ8D8qdUUZ+7kYNZRVCIGv+FYPdiXOJaqKxx2Gi5364V475va/3T L/1NyBLXI9UApFIsMa1vC1Jkb0hqeodWppVw37HXx1DtLjMYSBNmPrRKxWTJ8xPHspJa LJzD/gWQMYiqpY/HjK/Wmce9WR/Nvhkw+rEKS1ERsVts9lRZl8qc0bLh75wT9KW6Fa2z oMAQ== Received: by 10.205.123.12 with SMTP id gi12mr2143505bkc.41.1339768426836; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from green.tandem.local (utwig.xim.bz. [91.216.237.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u8sm10299786bks.0.2012.06.15.06.53.44 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FDB3E67.104@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:53:43 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120605 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Andrey S. Rybak" References: <4FDB27DB.4090500@iop.kiev.ua> In-Reply-To: <4FDB27DB.4090500@iop.kiev.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: milter wants erase sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:53:48 -0000 Andrey S. Rybak wrote: > hello! > i use bundle sendmail and milter greylist on my e-mail freebsd server. > every time I want upgrade milter-greylist it wants install sendmail > port. But I use sendmail+tls+sasl2 port. > There is conflict. I should deinstall sendmail+tls+sasl, install > milter-greylist, deinstall sendmail and then install sendmail+tls+sasl2. > Every time doing so I think something going not elegant. Is there more > simple path to upgrade milter-greylist? IMHO creating multiple ports is horrible way for managing different configurations... You can build mail/sendmail with SENDMAIL_WITH_TLS and SENDMAIL_WITH_SASL2. This way you will get exactly the same package originating from mail/sendmail. You can simply alter package +CONTENTS to originate it from mail/sendmail. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 14:07:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A283106564A for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8158FC18 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:07:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5FE76uc023647 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 15:07:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q5FE76uc023647 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q5FE76uc023647; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4FDB4189.30105@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 15:07:05 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Andrey S. Rybak" References: <4FDB27DB.4090500@iop.kiev.ua> In-Reply-To: <4FDB27DB.4090500@iop.kiev.ua> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA759F498545D9780FAB4A239" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: milter wants erase sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:07:16 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA759F498545D9780FAB4A239 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15/06/2012 13:17, Andrey S. Rybak wrote: > i use bundle sendmail and milter greylist on my e-mail freebsd server. > every time I want upgrade milter-greylist it wants install sendmail > port. But I use sendmail+tls+sasl2 port. > There is conflict. I should deinstall sendmail+tls+sasl, install > milter-greylist, deinstall sendmail and then install sendmail+tls+sasl2= =2E > Every time doing so I think something going not elegant. Is there more > simple path to upgrade milter-greylist? Have you added this to /etc/make.cnf? WITH_SENDMAIL_PORT=3D yes That makes milter-greylist depend on the sendmail port, rather than the base version of sendmail: % cd /usr/ports/mail/milter-greylist % make -V BUILD_DEPENDS /usr/local/lib/libmilter.so.4:/usr/ports/mail/sendmail The mail/sendmail port is odd in that it changes package name depending on what configuration options you select. So if you go into /usr/ports/mail/sendmail and: # make config You will be able to enable tls and sasl2 (amongst a whole bunch of other stuff) giving you the correct functionality. This should not result in the ports trying to reinstall sendmail constantly, but it may confuse some tools that rely on the data in /usr/ports/INDEX-N. If that's a problem for you, then you will need to build your own INDEX. But it probably isn't. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enigA759F498545D9780FAB4A239 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/bQYkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyQPgCfbVEMIpygyUugYBqETB0y2bhN L38AnjwgJ6NYTUsRoBhE9+qJ1BG8dFCK =yJrj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA759F498545D9780FAB4A239-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 14:15:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C916D1065687 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@d2ux.net) Received: from h1907788.stratoserver.net (h1907788.stratoserver.net [85.214.252.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83DE98FC15 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by h1907788.stratoserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 452BD39EE354; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 15:54:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from h1907788.stratoserver.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (h1907788.stratoserver.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K-y5UJfAhOKt; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 15:54:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by h1907788.stratoserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE7939EE2CB; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 15:54:39 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: SOGoMail 1.3.15 X-Forward: localhost.localdomain from: "Matthias Petermann" message-id: <520-4fdb3e80-169-66b90500@69840155> to: "jb" date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 15:54:39 +0200 in-reply-to: content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libreoffice package and port troubles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:15:57 -0000 Hi, a couple of days ago I had the same issue. Install via pkg_add -r did result in the same error you reported. But building LIbreOffice from the ports worked well. The pkg_add issue only appeared on i386 system for me, it worked on amd64 so I guess the i386 packages are corrupted? Kind regards, Matthias Am Freitag, 15. Juni 2012 14:27 CEST, jb schrieb: Hi, FreeBSD 9.0. I can not build a port of LibreOffice: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/168717 I can not install package too: # pkg_add -r libreoffice Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9.0-release/L atest libreoffice.tbz...lib/libreoffice/basis3.4/program/libunopkgapp.so: bzip decompression failed ... < 123 errors about dependencies out of sync due to prior ports updates > ... pkg_add: warning: package 'libreoffice-3.4.4' requires 'libwpg-0.2.0_1', but 'libwpg-0.2.1_1' is installed # Could we somehow improve on this process ? jb _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 14:29:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B941065676 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:29:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BECA8FC0A for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SfXX2-0006J6-Qx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:29:49 +0200 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:29:48 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:29:48 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <520-4fdb3e80-169-66b90500@69840155> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:13.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/13.0) Subject: Re: libreoffice package and port troubles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:29:58 -0000 Matthias Petermann d2ux.net> writes: > > > Hi, > a couple of days ago I had the same issue. Install via pkg_add -r did > result in the same error you reported. > But building LIbreOffice from the ports worked well. > The pkg_add issue only appeared on i386 system for me, it worked on > amd64 so I guess the i386 packages are corrupted? Yes, it is a i386 system. I am just wondering, is there any way to pkg_add -r libreoffice and ask to restore (download/install) all its dependencies (that is, the old deps that were there prior to ports updates that replaced them with newer ones) ? Actually, I read the PKG_ADD(1) and see this: 3. Scan all the package dependencies (from @pkgdep directives, see pkg_create(1)) are read from the packing list. If any of these required packages is not currently installed, an attempt is made to find and install it; if the missing package cannot be found or installed, the installation is terminated. Is this not what I want it to do ? These old deps (packages) should be still available - I am still on FB 9.0 and its original repo. Or can I request the same (old package with old deps) with portmaster ? portmaster libreoffice jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 14:33:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19F01065672 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:33:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bbartlomiej.mail@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACC18FC18 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:33:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so5239120obc.13 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:33:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GaqKFDdHLCeKDoMzpeLFcw+IwmC7+BrCVYD4Os13HWw=; b=eV260VvXqz3Bmk87sj7rMK3KpAdUWcwMKAp8HOi056PcC+xoKTKOV9MVwEXN7viqz1 ekfjuUIUfPpbCZfYgODgC8NTQR0rMT8hON0bEhN8leMJ9uFfoPEzKemy6BDfg0BnrY4B DrQ4mDpS+GJ6G8ExX4xVKLYxqKm+NL1DnITOI0kINXylMyBwb9M1SJstW1lOmGwzk11b Nh2X+ePrOgSbTp0TUSNkbINMIF7MbaMszSRF437d1lZRyYFkoj6Hyy+OSFTdQL/55lVo r4AG/b04lo+XdX/cNqa2y60j5Z7vGd28LK/Gi1SEj0AZy2zNIjC9bnY5t8WRzVcjhggO +dyw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.117.71 with SMTP id kc7mr4695089obb.62.1339770821873; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.187.4 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:33:41 +0200 Message-ID: From: Bartek Krawczyk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Issuing ACPI calls or Nvidia Optimus support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:33:42 -0000 Hello. I have an Asus U36JC laptop which has two graphic cards (NVIDIA Optimus technology): an Intel integrated card and GeForce 310M. To save power on Linux I use acpi_call module to disable nvidia card completely. This acpi_call module (https://github.com/mkottman/acpi_call) enables an interface to pass ACPI methods. Then when I issue echo '\_SB.PCI0.PEG1.GFX0._OFF' > /proc/acpi/call I'm disabling the nvidia card. Is something like that possible with FreeBSD? I'd like to use it on my laptop, but unfortunately it gets too hot when both Intel and Nvidia card are powered on. Are there any plans on supporting nvidia optimus? Or at least an option to disable the nvidia card and use the intel one? Regards, -- Bartek Krawczyk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 16:04:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF831065673 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:04:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [66.147.249.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D67428FC1A for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:04:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 6837 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jun 2012 16:04:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 2012 16:04:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=cOGaWVluPk4G2d0fdqD6ptRmWhs3+2PgtYHdA83zsAU=; b=iUJXO3nyGG5czdJ0Ji8wXEl7vDeiZOoE83fDMxcJEpPYJs+wzK5QEdF2oPcfCipRhRDGfTH5hF5kaJIVOrxBqSWoDWZ57o64GSHut1PBX4bCH83QCNQXb7gner2fYrrr; Received: from [24.8.180.234] (port=60320 helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SfZ0E-0006j8-Q6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:04:02 -0600 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:04:01 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120615160401.GC20814@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FDAA9F3.8050308@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FDAA9F3.8050308@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: Uptime [OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:04:06 -0000 On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 09:20:19PM -0600, Steve Bertrand wrote: > I still have non-root access to a box from my old job... it is > non-available and doing nothing, so updates are irrelevant: > > %uptime > 9:01PM up 1142 days, 5:29, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Hmm. My longest uptime system right now -- basically just an SSH-accessible store of digital audio files ripped from CD and attached to speakers in the living room -- is at 500 days uptime today. My oldest build date on a running system is "Sun May 7 04:32:43 UTC 2006". Obviously, neither of these is set up for public access. They're just neglected single-purpose machines. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 16:06:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934CC1065672 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:06:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.22.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46BA08FC1B for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:06:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 17287 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jun 2012 16:00:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy8.bluehost.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 2012 16:00:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=PE5S+RRW4Z31ySSkM36UAeyZ3igJnxYIXEVFRUIn7r0=; b=acKaqDr64Oggigci8vdR6DLgqcA2KA4Z/M6ceTugoHmJQet1noM+o/aPCIuByEGM+5cy3tgbEcSGgNPy66SvgZGJW50dRP1plaimPUKL3NscYz2tG4k0Dq2UVZCE+coY; Received: from [24.8.180.234] (port=60226 helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SfYwS-0007nx-Ms for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:00:08 -0600 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:00:05 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120615160005.GB20814@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201206151249.q5FCnnKF019002@mail.r-bonomi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201206151249.q5FCnnKF019002@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: Uptime [OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:06:55 -0000 On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 07:49:49AM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > Heh. check out -this- one: > > % uname -a > ****** ******************** *** **** ****** *** Kernel #0: Thu Mar 20 16:40:01 CST 1997 ************************:/usr/src/sys/compile/LOCAL i386 > > The build date _is_ accurate, the hardware it's running on is old enough to > vote. > > It's publicly accessible on the Internet, > > It's not quite as ridiculous as it looks, the (limited) apps running on it > _are_ up-to-date. > > Uptime is nothing to brag about -- no UPS, combined with 'unreliable' public > utility power, does have an impact. No power conditioning (implied by no UPS) is nothing to brag about. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 16:55:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F11106566C for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:55:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5DF28FC17 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:55:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.199.104]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:54:20 -0700 Message-ID: <4FDB68B9.9090503@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:54:17 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jacqueline Parlane References: <078B045D-F00A-4F0C-8716-A41C9BC1867E@somethingsocial.com.au> In-Reply-To: <078B045D-F00A-4F0C-8716-A41C9BC1867E@somethingsocial.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jun 2012 16:54:20.0777 (UTC) FILETIME=[82679590:01CD4B17] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Account access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:55:33 -0000 Jacqueline Parlane wrote: > Hi there > > Just hoping I can hear back from someone on the process to unlock one of my clients accounts with http://freedns.afraid.org/ please. > > Her previous web developer is no longer in contact and we need to put in place some domain redirects and access a mailing list. > > I look forward to hearing from you. > > Kind Regards > Jacqueline > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > This is the wrong place to be asking about this. You should be asking this question of the people at http://freedns.afraid.org I would say "unlock" is the wrong word. What you want is to login to an existing account at their website. Like it says to recover your account ID and or password you need to know the email address used to sign up with. If you dont know it or can not guess it then you are SOL. You could alway contact them and ask for help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 18:30:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA36106566C for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remailer@dizum.com) Received: from smtp.zedz.net (outpost.zedz.net [194.109.206.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A188FC17 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:30:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.zedz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A881AA108 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 20:30:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.zedz.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nWkkht6gkuJ8 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 20:30:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: by smtp.zedz.net (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 96DC51AA1A2; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 20:30:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Nomen Nescio Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <201206141531.q5EFVnt4085652@fire.js.berklix.net> Message-ID: <00882ecb3a2e442175aeb10cfad98122@dizum.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 20:30:06 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:30:24 -0000 > If you read Fedora's page they were planning to tighten their boot > sequence to then only boot their approved binary kernels. Save your old copies of lilo and grub. You're gonna need them if you want to stay on Intel Mafioso hardware. > Risk of key revocation later > If hardware manufacturer ships new bios or uefi, or user > upgrades to new UEFI (eg I as a user must upgrade a uefi > soon as a laptop overheats). + if MS get away with this > intrusion, next they'll consider requiring a "Call Home" > demon No, this doesn't run on the OS. It runs from UEFI in the BIOS. Internet connectivity is already part of the UEFI spec. Your box doesn't even to have to be running. As long as it's plugged in, you're at their beck and call. Say NO to the WinTel Mafia! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 19:03:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28EAC106564A for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 19:03:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4108FC0C for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 19:03:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id ro2so6022221pbb.13 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:03:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=iyQZbmwqY83Vg5O460TnpFA/sSe1P8ahJKmb5vfAeto=; b=SdwnNCJlhvnsET+Iyxb/g98kRK0aC751Fh/iJeaSnqieDSrn5+G3xGw9MCVSK0ygx4 S9cDUfTDvdH+TAAEiojzJiZRvvBszaf1Ix2NvDNWfKVJUc726suQoJwZMz2riUTD0ZEK KyfgRyyvmu2jL2lIA9vgB6xyP+rG6emsV6uZ2SaP9/AjDBlBsLA1UL9d/ffHoOOPI6TT +m4Bysu7+O9Ik8JM68lTE8Kaka4dv2DjvIM5E7Vk1R9nrLRJtgjyYatxPm/U5NmsLWBQ qVSzYIf708ReniX5O4RShfURGVtiWuJLUKzZDTNVhztsCGVNwHFy6agdIqnEE0n76sX5 euhw== Received: by 10.68.223.198 with SMTP id qw6mr6487698pbc.94.1339786982758; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ny10sm14101310pbb.38.2012.06.15.12.03.01 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FDB8808.1070806@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:07:52 -0700 From: Edward M User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120605 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FDA0B5E.4090901@gmail.com> <4FDAAF5E.4040500@gmail.com> <4FDAECF8.4080007@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4FDAECF8.4080007@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: No surround sound with Creative SB Live! card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 19:03:03 -0000 On 06/15/2012 01:06 AM, David Demelier wrote: > That's what mplayer says: > > ========================================================================== > > Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders > AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 6 ch, s16le, 448.0 kbit/9.72% (ratio: 56000->576000) > Selected audio codec: [ffac3] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg AC-3) > ========================================================================== > > AO: [oss] 48000Hz 6ch s16le (2 bytes per sample) > > What do you mean by "a decoder is needed"? A decorder is either a special plugin/codex that gets installed into the OS ( codex called a52dec) and decoding happens internally. or a hardware device like a stereo receiver that is able to understand Dolby Digital signals from the DVD through S/PDIF connector from the sound card to decorder. however, it only appears you are only missing a52dec? Have you installed a52dec from ports/audio/gstreamer-plugins-a52dec/ ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 19:05:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6ED4106564A for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 19:05:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Dave.Robison@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A644D8FC19 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 19:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.17]) by ltcfislmsgpa05.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5FJ55T9023713 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:05:08 -0500 Received: from lefty.vicor.com (10.14.152.58) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.283.3; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:05:06 -0500 Message-ID: <4FDB8760.2070605@fisglobal.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:05:04 -0700 From: "Robison, Dave" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120209 Thunderbird/10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: <4FDAA9F3.8050308@gmail.com> <4FDAAD94.9080409@gmail.com> <4FDB54FD.7030902@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <4FDB54FD.7030902@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.58] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855, 1.0.260, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-06-15_04:2012-06-15, 2012-06-15, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Subject: Re: Uptime [OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: david.robison@fisglobal.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 19:05:10 -0000 On 06/15/2012 08:30, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > Aha.....A pissing contest and it's friday....count me in... > > FreeBSD fqdn 4.11-RELEASE-p20 FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE-p20 #0: Mon Aug 28 > 07:21:42 CEST 2006 user@fqdn:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HPNETSERVERFW i386 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I'll bite. Here's an internal machine. Old timers should appreciate the name "ref1". I remember the original ref machine. I got to kick it in the head a few times. firewall0# uname -a FreeBSD firewall0.dev.vicor.com 4.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #5: Thu Nov 1 14:57:38 PST 2001 julian@ref1.dev.vicor-nb.com:/usr/home/julian/checkout_test/prod/kernel/external_source/compile/VICOR i386 -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) daver@vicor.com david.robison@fisglobal.com _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 21:02:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B6A106566C for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 21:02:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2B28FC14 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 21:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 4430 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2012 21:02:39 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 15 Jun 2012 21:02:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:vbr-info; s=4fdba2ef.xn--30v786c.k1206; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=IRtYdiUag/XVuGWaC3Pul08UDi6Ov3VZtHsP786gmAc=; b=RkFATaOI64t9DZ8xlHigNERgD38+PHcCrCZEsCt51C7aCvk//C9o8qzt7Ya03VMPppj35kLx/aq2X5G/kLJXrHYi2KxqStEcnzKI6I4qaMIZu37GdrfIHurSgQcEQgZdcfoiFBr5U6yQAXGlsBvW7IEcsMN/FjNnEGbz9Y8g8cw= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Date: 15 Jun 2012 21:02:17 -0000 Message-ID: <20120615210217.87837.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Free space in ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 21:02:41 -0000 I made a three disk zraid ZFS pool yesterday from three new 1 TB disks, which I'm using for backup. Then I did a backup and made a zfs volume. The free space numbers don't make sense. This is on 8.3, ZFS version 15. # zpool list NAME SIZE USED AVAIL CAP HEALTH ALTROOT backup2 2.72T 310G 2.42T 11% ONLINE - Given that it's zraid, the total available space should be a little under 2TB since the third disk is for parity. But zpool gives me a total of 2.72T, as though the third disk was for data. # zfs list NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT backup2 206G 1.58T 31.3K /backup2 backup2/20120615 206G 1.58T 206G /backup2/20120615 Well, that makes more sense, total is 1.78Tb. # df -g Filesystem 1G-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on backup2 1618 0 1618 0% /backup2 backup2/20120615 1825 206 1618 11% /backup2/20120615 Now the total is 1.82Tb. Huh? The backup filesystems are compressed, but surely they're showing me the actual size, not the uncompressed size. Or are they? R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 21:15:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0282106564A for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 21:15:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50FFD8FC0A for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 21:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5FLF80S004922; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:15:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5FLF7et004919; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:15:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:15:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "lokadamus@gmx.de" In-Reply-To: <4FB80D3E.8020308@gmx.de> Message-ID: References: <4FB80D3E.8020308@gmx.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:15:08 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openoffice doesn't work - any ideas? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 21:15:13 -0000 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > Google find many things with "javaldx failed". > Is a problem with java, but different solutions (wrong xml, home permission, > java- version ...). > > Hope you find a solution. thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 21:16:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D476A1065676 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 21:16:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFE18FC1B for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 21:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5FLG7ed004929; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:16:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5FLG6gT004926; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:16:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:16:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Paul Macdonald In-Reply-To: <4FBA0584.8030004@ifdnrg.com> Message-ID: References: <4FBA0584.8030004@ifdnrg.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:16:07 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw subnetting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 21:16:05 -0000 > can anyone suggest what i'm doing wrong here. > > Desired: drop everything from 180.0.0.0 to 180.255.255.255 > > ipfw -q add 137 deny all from 180.0.0.0/8 to any nothing wrong. all is fine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 21:33:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB20106566B for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 21:33:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0788FC0C for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 21:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl8 with SMTP id l8so3311271yen.13 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:32:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :x-kmail-markup:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:x-gm-message-state; bh=reJWisNZVT3EnsULk0MarMitq9fomyIsaf1IuXgr9sw=; b=o2mAz3NaAnzMnOA9Z5j5iQ4RJOeotTb1GCxSEpCvgDnoZAt3yw5H04fTb2QuW5goQS AN0R14/05GsUocUgLwUtP6oqkrVgb9VWBSgnSKeG2C6BTuJ821mYjY/31/wucqlvpUEm 0BFe9Tfe7v4CD7H0UPR2M4jf0b6ZILwbBIt/cTjvOUAUA17LfGk5fR/PQ5x554/PJRgf GVQ/81V40yEwSIf2IG3eOrBK81IxX2ppHa4Mc+1oakuTb/6iFjdX0pwvjJYTKf4QyMwX nSlzHMi30I+c+l92BaM4tEURPOyaDdJh8Ebo4xsPoES6LdnoCRx6rr7HGr3NybHSeQ3G LUmA== Received: by 10.236.76.165 with SMTP id b25mr10005415yhe.0.1339795979788; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi.localnet ([177.133.116.207]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y10sm35710540yha.4.2012.06.15.14.32.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:32:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:33:32 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <201206151249.q5FCnnKF019002@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201206151249.q5FCnnKF019002@mail.r-bonomi.com> X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201206151833.32856.lobo@bsd.com.br> X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl9k+yJ/obwXN8/hn1HIruw89Ic+js9BfbxCS6d3Zxs9x2qeMQYBTbLCoUaquJ5mLOPDF/C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Uptime [OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 21:33:00 -0000 On Friday 15 June 2012 09:49:49 Robert Bonomi wrote: > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 14 22:56:16 2012 > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:51:45 -0500 > > From: Mark Felder > > Cc: Steve Bertrand > > Subject: Re: Uptime [OT] > > > > FreeBSD REDACTED 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Nov 15 16:29:10 > > CST 2006 root@REDACTED:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/IPFW-POLING-ALTQ i386 > > > > Theres no way I'm giving out the organization name or hostname haha. > > We're slowly moving customers away from this device, but not forcing > > anyone. > > > > I wonder if the technician who compiled that kernel considered how long > > it would run.... > > Heh. check out -this- one: > > % uname -a > ****** ******************** *** **** ****** *** Kernel #0: Thu Mar 20 > 16:40:01 CST 1997 ************************:/usr/src/sys/compile/LOCAL > i386 > > The build date _is_ accurate, the hardware it's running on is old enough to > vote. > > It's publicly accessible on the Internet, > > It's not quite as ridiculous as it looks, the (limited) apps running on it > _are_ up-to-date. Hi; This is from a colleague Alex Moura at our brazilian bsd list. > > > FreeBSD helm 4.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE #0: Wed Dec 13 16:19:46 > > > BRST 2000 > > > 11:47AM up 3532 days, 3:43, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > > > > > > 3532 days before now Friday, July 13, 2001 > > > > > > 9 years, 8 months, 3 days, 16 hours ref. http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-chat@freebsd.org/msg02477.html -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 23:12:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BB5106564A for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9468FC15 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:12:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q5FNCgjb047769 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:12:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FDBC16A.3040004@dreamchaser.org> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:12:42 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120609 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:12:43 -0600 (MDT) Subject: print woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:12:49 -0000 got my hp officejet 8500 connected to network working a while ago but now I notice the following: 1. Using gv, pdf files in portrait orientation print fine. pdf files in landscape orientation cause the printer to wake up but nothing prints. No errors in the log. Same behavior using lp or lpr. 2. lpoptions shows no printers. 3. lp -o landscape -o fit-to-page foo.pdf does the same (printer wakes up but prints nothing) 4. lpoptions -d lp (or any other printer name from /etc/printcap) says Unknown printer or class. Not sure where to look from here. Not sure how to tell what protocol is being used. lpd is running but no cupsd. Hints? Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 23:48:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092D7106566C for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:48:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CE98FC12 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:48:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn6 with SMTP id hn6so5481wib.13 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:48:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=t58rpyxeaIdMfx7O/tVuaLY2ULe+Wi/AGsvn8pTW1fA=; b=C3C6yRsS6abRP0XNbcq9Ye8SpwwUJhi83U1E2DaxW2ZebNyNCJ2g2445OIF7UJDsQd 5W//o4Xdl/Yi9UDVWNptSVsQs6MPRKbNPn2+1nXTV3znw7t6VNhVZzoeoV87MeIsWpLz UG3owFIwxggj2t+YNLyPO2eNJcJ3m/ZNht/JHn356NjZIKJtw46DyFaGQhevflfCutBO S5QU/l55Udif7H8My7aXeQd6788UJxbKFUFYSkPLHmNOSw5iWuIKi/gMLxvZmhQQxTmR DfWV6CsDt39D86+DUyGzT9sKrNN15+KMYB/zVtg05EdOi07IjPxGFSl3fLHuJPHDHv8Q A6Bg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.143.213 with SMTP id l63mr4276239wej.117.1339804075972; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.73.8 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:47:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.17.228] In-Reply-To: <20120615160005.GB20814@hemlock.hydra> References: <201206151249.q5FCnnKF019002@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120615160005.GB20814@hemlock.hydra> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:47:55 +0000 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmBRCJ75PfIU+3OWsQR5BuU4yRTRVMVXKkjlgsPxuHPMvs3cZivHoddwPYMW4slGM9m7i6M Subject: Re: Uptime [OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:48:07 -0000 On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > No power conditioning (implied by no UPS) is nothing to brag about. If your utility power is very -- common now in places with buried utilities -- a UPS of the non-enterprise variety can actually make reliability *worse*. I've found that standby-type UPSs (like the popular APC BackUPS and SmartUPS units) will drop the load at the slightest power blip once the batteries go bad, while machines connected directly to utility power will often ride out short blips. It's especially insidious on the BackUPS units because the only way to test the battery is to hit the test button and see if the load drops. ;) When I lived in a place that had a power outage once a week, I used a UPS. Now that I live in a place where I get maybe one power outage a *year*, I'm better off without out. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 23:48:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EEF106566B for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:48:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9EC8FC21 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:48:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds11 with SMTP id ds11so3407891wgb.31 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:48:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=A5MsAqCfa0cx1BtZBjfbJ+uYUjuWLYbjhJbf26HfzP8=; b=NFYeDfR7io37dGxinMfLlsXO2AX7PIZb4kj0vVae12ECpthmQ2lwj4Zxre7wKCgYcK rx84+ou3yf+najw2I2RlVuRRGldBYwK1GUYp1Z+Zp96JiKkXPApIFb/wR/RxGN+MyzD2 JetUfFGSsu1nPc2aHeafCGOA40qnaBjSqXEsW53uw0Ei1yqtJgq4D1wFB8hw9T1KOabr OpRK4Fpzn/V1nblP3FrSCfA6VA99tO/YCEgvMvrJZlhvo7fGhbCAIQ3aNt7wQy1Q8hW7 Y2beaN8LCb0ByzgyvNc3csyU8PNQKjvpBOVdk6l0JEX/HjahfDTGnssUkCtl95wWOLT5 vGMw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.142.200 with SMTP id i50mr4526114wej.47.1339804115572; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:48:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.73.8 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:48:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.17.228] In-Reply-To: References: <201206151249.q5FCnnKF019002@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120615160005.GB20814@hemlock.hydra> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:48:35 +0000 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlgUXMiKMFX/Ug89DV0amC6RcD96y1zeTlVMumMG6cZoY5nGL/0pFksXytxgOhSOuhWnPSP Subject: Re: Uptime [OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:48:41 -0000 On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:47 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: >> No power conditioning (implied by no UPS) is nothing to brag about. > > If your utility power is very -- common now in places with buried > utilities -- a UPS of the non-enterprise variety can actually make > reliability *worse*. Err, meant to say "if your utility power is very reliable..." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 23:54:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F5E106564A for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:54:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46C2E8FC08 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:54:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14098 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jun 2012 23:54:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 2012 23:54:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=xXL5PIhcNZeGcTVZCmT6/6Ld4inJmL/Q6iUujfrjTkM=; b=VtOAXH5Mk9jDYXhoL/JCBQI6bJCVVs40u4liGduLPb4s06/fYxdazhEkFBVPXMNmCCv+u7KOEFDNJDF5biXSuxza3jnnEDAhg+B01QMpyPbvPPwCk9JtIb+3jBh1wjv5; Received: from [24.8.180.234] (port=60503 helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SfgLG-0002NQ-Fj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:54:14 -0600 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:54:14 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120615235414.GA15957@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201206151249.q5FCnnKF019002@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120615160005.GB20814@hemlock.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: Uptime [OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:54:15 -0000 On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:47:55PM +0000, David Brodbeck wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > > No power conditioning (implied by no UPS) is nothing to brag about. > > If your utility power is very -- common now in places with buried > utilities -- a UPS of the non-enterprise variety can actually make > reliability *worse*. I've found that standby-type UPSs (like the > popular APC BackUPS and SmartUPS units) will drop the load at the > slightest power blip once the batteries go bad, while machines > connected directly to utility power will often ride out short blips. > It's especially insidious on the BackUPS units because the only way to > test the battery is to hit the test button and see if the load drops. > ;) These bargain-basement throw-away UPSes you mention are not the kinds of UPSes that give you power conditioning, and thus (I hope) obviously not the kinds of UPSes I meant. > > When I lived in a place that had a power outage once a week, I used a > UPS. Now that I live in a place where I get maybe one power outage a > *year*, I'm better off without out. I don't consider the ability to stay up for a few minutes when there's a brief blackout to be the most important function of a good UPS, even though that's kinda the reason the things were invented in the first place. The most important function of such a thing is power conditioning, which eliminates the problems of spikes and brownouts in the supply of power from the utility company even when nothing dramatic enough happens to actually crash a running machine right away. Such variability in power can be bad for both hardware and consistent, stable running of software. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 16 00:01:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A51106566B for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 00:01:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EDC8FC08 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 00:00:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so3092401wer.13 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:00:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=/iMNJ07jx0UfZ07IMwYN+CHMOFdC9L9evSMJ8CIefXU=; b=dlPqQKtZRdfjMysAdyqNTvtS2Hhr/vAWtgqqSK4mQirm1SNt96lm6dE3QIO8DfO1oE u7SAZ9gtiux5zqOdkFH+is2W7A16AL/lT/d9/o7OLaEhV3vwa2h4dzPdlWsioAJOCwhl zZ21oog8lG3gOBiD3WvtTAt4Wx24bGZzMPFEHh1hied1jYjv4RSVLMymXWj6sJ/I8fyL 9VvAX+gikXS75f4O74YivjoyCBA/rWt+e45lbAnnwuEPmYpJz7oCt4WR0PmpixExqxCL +od2MLMen7fOVWft44MVCK7w21QKJOVZ40ShE6LdJ4VJhUGjoQ2KfvmF0q2NFFH/aZY/ PiXw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.102.228 with SMTP id fr4mr7999183wib.6.1339804858041; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.73.8 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:00:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.17.228] In-Reply-To: <20120615235414.GA15957@hemlock.hydra> References: <201206151249.q5FCnnKF019002@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120615160005.GB20814@hemlock.hydra> <20120615235414.GA15957@hemlock.hydra> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 00:00:57 +0000 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkADvnrNFoJhXQuJkC1HwgWsU4ZHCIw3lise21wHzpbzHduiiGpgLtLrCt78g2+zm2uz86L Subject: Re: Uptime [OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 00:01:00 -0000 On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > I don't consider the ability to stay up for a few minutes when there's a > brief blackout to be the most important function of a good UPS, even > though that's kinda the reason the things were invented in the first > place. =A0The most important function of such a thing is power > conditioning, which eliminates the problems of spikes and brownouts in > the supply of power from the utility company even when nothing dramatic > enough happens to actually crash a running machine right away. =A0Such > variability in power can be bad for both hardware and consistent, stable > running of software. Hard to get unless you have several kilobucks to spend on an online type UPS, though. I actually had one I got surplus, several years back, but the constant inverter buzz got old fast in a home environment. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 16 00:08:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60354106566C for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 00:08:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E183F8FC0A for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 00:08:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn6 with SMTP id hn6so13385wib.13 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:08:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Mfo2Mtmhyyjqcz7ao69r6P3Cgy4/Mxzndh/xLOdGz18=; b=DxGNYjc0FE0xM0WgpoZ8Is6Ua7o8fMKvjQhIATrSTXZ/igMiHdUCQZgVywC0zRKfko ixAoAZUqyFTuf28OxdQItI089zXowXIV+CoUkBwkYxgOTl7Wj/UuzS+ngmodGz7QmYO/ PlQHAXEaeSqWJuwUl6MVIM8nDOgJvM1vdVVYlz5V3fgQubsmL+Xj1pkbucIypPgI3JT7 DBEn2m6hYZ2JGPkztUa5AEXRFy5RrOv10g26SqZeGiAAkW3RRBUnScj/70MU70Mh5+r1 Hszn8lske/YIJRfdiHlSIATBVLdKGWVMuN+UqsTMkg8J2ypj3RLq8JbtlsXgw9edipe1 LQ0g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.142.200 with SMTP id i50mr4550353wej.47.1339805330761; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.73.8 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:08:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.17.228] In-Reply-To: References: <201206081611.q58GBW0J097808@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 00:08:50 +0000 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkDguI2NTHBdFWICAFEM7IEL9dLsI2aUNgEGdxZOLyoM8WQ9GSehCd1vMeJzJrxni5DSY+y Subject: Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 00:08:52 -0000 On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:23 AM, C. P. Ghost wrote: > Only if they fully follow the spec. This is rather unlikely. > > Even today, there are still many broken DMI/SMBIOS > tables out there that contain barely enough stuff for > Windows to boot successfully. What makes you think > UEFI BIOS makers will go all the trouble to implement > such a complex spec, if all they have to do is to ensure > compliance with MS requirements? > > I wouldn't count on an option or switch to override this > system. Any server manufacturer who chooses to only support MS products is going to find they don't get much business from the academic market. So I suspect this may crop up on some desktop machines and laptops, but most servers will probably allow installing whatever OS you like. And the market will probably reject even desktop machines with this problem quickly, just like it quickly forced manufacturers to add a way to turn off Intel's CPU ID feature when it became a privacy concern. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 16 05:38:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444DA106566B for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 05:38:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091938FC0A for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 05:38:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q5G5cYOe048751; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:38:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FDC1BDA.4080806@dreamchaser.org> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:38:34 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120609 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Mueller References: <17.97.18914.61FFADF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: <17.97.18914.61FFADF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:38:35 -0600 (MDT) Cc: feenberg@nber.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB device activity when not mounted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 05:38:37 -0000 On 06/15/12 03:23, Thomas Mueller wrote: >> I can understand why I would see activity on a USB device when it's first plugged in. But why do I see continued activity (i.e. the light blinks on a usb disk or memory stick)? When I umount one of these, they keep being beat up on and it makes me nervous... At what point is it sync'd and safe to unplug? I assume when the umount returns, but what's going on after that? > > I had that problem/quirk with a SanDisk Cruzer 8 GB USB stick. Heh. My 4 gig one does it too. However, so does my seagate usb hard drive, so it's not specific to one mfg. On 06/14/12 07:49, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > Is it possible that there is volitile memory buffering in the stick that may not have been written to flash when umount thinks it is complete, and the flashing light is an indication that power is still required to complete the write to non-volitile memory? I'm pretty sure that's not it. My devices (memstick and usb disk) will blink happily for hours. Well, minutes, anyway. I haven't got the patience to wait it out beyond that... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 16 05:57:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C596A106564A for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 05:57:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912508FC08 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 05:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q5G5vGLV048802 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:57:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FDC203C.6070508@dreamchaser.org> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:57:16 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120609 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FDBC16A.3040004@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: <4FDBC16A.3040004@dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:57:17 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: print woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 05:57:17 -0000 On 06/15/12 17:12, Gary Aitken wrote: > got my hp officejet 8500 connected to network working a while ago but now I notice the following: > > 1. Using gv, pdf files in portrait orientation print fine. pdf files in landscape orientation cause the printer to wake up but nothing prints. No errors in the log. Same behavior using lp or lpr. > > 2. lpoptions shows no printers. > > 3. lp -o landscape -o fit-to-page foo.pdf > does the same (printer wakes up but prints nothing) > > 4. lpoptions -d lp (or any other printer name from /etc/printcap) says Unknown printer or class. more questions... Where does the image rotation occur? I'm using gv for an input filter. Does gv get PS with embedded instructions to rotate, so gv rotates the image before sending on to the printer? Or does gv send to the printer and let the printer do the rotation? How does gv get its instructions to rotate the image? I'm not sure where to look... I've always been befuddled by UI interfaces that have print dialogs with orientation in them, and then printer config dialogs which are sub-dialogs of those that do the same. Two horizontals sometimes do seem to make a vertical. I guess if you beat it long enough, like three times, maybe you get what you want... Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 16 08:35:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADFB1065672 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 08:35:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86008FC12 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 08:35:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (den.cyberleo.net [216.80.73.130]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3038F29652; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 04:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4FDC4548.3020606@cyberleo.net> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 03:35:20 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.4) Gecko/20120513 Thunderbird/10.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Levine References: <20120615210217.87837.qmail@joyce.lan> In-Reply-To: <20120615210217.87837.qmail@joyce.lan> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Free space in ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 08:35:28 -0000 On 06/15/2012 04:02 PM, John Levine wrote: > I made a three disk zraid ZFS pool yesterday from three new 1 TB > disks, which I'm using for backup. Then I did a backup and made a zfs > volume. The free space numbers don't make sense. This is on 8.3, ZFS > version 15. > > # zpool list > NAME SIZE USED AVAIL CAP HEALTH ALTROOT > backup2 2.72T 310G 2.42T 11% ONLINE - > > Given that it's zraid, the total available space should be a little > under 2TB since the third disk is for parity. But zpool gives me a > total of 2.72T, as though the third disk was for data. raidz does not operate entirely like a traditional raid5. It stores enough redundant information to survive a full disk failure, but that's where the similarity ends. When you write to a raid5, the data is striped in even strides across n-1 disks, and parity is written to the remaining disk. The layout is very rigidly structured, such that you can always determine where a particular piece of data will end up by performing simple arithmetic. When you write data to a raidz1, a single ZFS data block is chopped up into n-1 equal-sized pieces (plus 1 piece for parity), and stored wherever it will fit inside the pool. The storage allocator will make sure that each piece ends up on a separate physical disk, but that's the only restriction on placement. So, when looking at the zpool itself, you see raw capacity that is burned through at a rate of four-thirds (for a 4-disk raidz) as you commit data to the pool. > # zfs list > NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT > backup2 206G 1.58T 31.3K /backup2 > backup2/20120615 206G 1.58T 206G /backup2/20120615 > > Well, that makes more sense, total is 1.78Tb. ...but, when looking at the dataset itself, you see how much (compressed, deduped) data is present (since you don't care about parity at this level), and how much more data the allocator predicts you can safely store on this dataset (which is affected by things like compression, deduplication, reservations, and quotas). > # df -g > Filesystem 1G-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > backup2 1618 0 1618 0% /backup2 > backup2/20120615 1825 206 1618 11% /backup2/20120615 > > Now the total is 1.82Tb. Huh? The backup filesystems are compressed, > but surely they're showing me the actual size, not the uncompressed > size. Or are they? Don't bother with df. Because df was designed in the era of static filesystems that never change capacity and always write verbatim, zfs has to be 'creative' to represent the size in a manner that would be in any way useful to a user. It doesn't always work. Google 'ZFS versus df'[1] for more information. Hope this helps! [1] https://duckduckgo.com/?q=zfs+versus+df -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 16 08:35:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70102106566B; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 08:35:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9158FC14; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 08:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds11 with SMTP id ds11so3617754wgb.31 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 01:35:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=kKOcuqIoEpGqIRkwovMACYvxoZ4bXGtXcviFjB7Qhao=; b=eCG8tahm7LfeOaZoFoLOS/h3rCNYcTAw1asLU1g+T1aKhbGMuK4lnRXkqvt+tcf9F5 YK4roDEQDK2LmMrvGRhWx2CxVmCJ8g2h++gho+H1890ssyU7W8aJhiAEfSBVcEztRoAz wzJ99Kp/MtueQlE/sJ9n8Cp0LIG8gC7dkBRctBAbvPDmqQ7zjvuvlgzdv0Jz2JfTfNtY xvhN6+ZniZ+/X8evDQJqyIiQhR85TKrjOIAfkUoWQ1NdpVt0hoXImREJnQjdlun08YPT rosqSL5CYcAR2MSjr6RSzP6AJDt8uHDm9TwQC6sxt7aRnUN1PAT4onw0737QKTM32mpu XuEQ== Received: by 10.216.51.206 with SMTP id b56mr5062123wec.9.1339835727722; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 01:35:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.dg (41-132-211-220.dsl.mweb.co.za. [41.132.211.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e20sm8912945wiv.7.2012.06.16.01.35.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 16 Jun 2012 01:35:26 -0700 (PDT) From: David Naylor To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 10:35:06 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-STABLE; KDE/4.8.3; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3643132.QS6NPVMJ4O"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201206161035.09956.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.5.6 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 08:35:29 -0000 --nextPart3643132.QS6NPVMJ4O Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.5.6 have been uploaded to mediafire [2]. Th= e=20 packages for FreeBSD 10 use the pkgng* [3] format. =20 There are many reports that wine does not work with a clang compiled world (help in fixing this problem is appreciated as it affects quite a few users= ). The patch [4] for nVidia users is now included in the package and is run on installation (if the relevant files are accessible). Please read the installation messages for further information. Regards, David [1] MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.5.6,1.tbz) =3D=20 5a89d8cd18c65c6f27a565e78598ebd8 MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.5.6,1.txz) =3D=20 0992a7d5bf73759f8a8f97ae793c6eee MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd10/wine-fbsd64-1.5.6,1.txz) =3D=20 2f807a63ff2f8d8833b4b89846e5e68a [2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64 [3] http://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng [4] The patch is located at /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh * Support for pkgng has been added to the nvidia-patch script --nextPart3643132.QS6NPVMJ4O Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAk/cRT0ACgkQUaaFgP9pFrIJwgCeIUT7UrDJTwBa7aLXO45B6exe J94An21t+jqfOhOlop+06mpuBM66UwjZ =DOqI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3643132.QS6NPVMJ4O-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 16 12:12:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293E11065670 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73918FC0A for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sfrrx-0006YM-Fi for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:12:45 +0200 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:12:45 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:12:45 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:13.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/13.0) Subject: Re: libreoffice package and port troubles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:12:49 -0000 jb gmail.com> writes: > > Hi, > > FreeBSD 9.0. > > I can not build a port of LibreOffice: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/168717 > ... I sent some build and debugging output there. Hopefully it can be useful to somebody out there. jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 16 14:43:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50909106564A; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:43:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f170.google.com (mail-wi0-f170.google.com [209.85.212.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DF28FC0C; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:43:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhm6 with SMTP id hm6so405870wib.1 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 07:42:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=idLWg1VjyI8wgDyyK2HqIQNgI2PyL55IeTHHJNSyIaY=; b=wO8rcuhlBzRUcyt6E/boCI/yY5aenVMYAjGp3IKSO33XxwfHHtcKyp61Wn63X2ti/8 IB7kp1O+q2+KNMdEjDbz3P7x1TCNq9FnkFAonc45N1DSy0w4ayyFpJz0qNyESJSZZqhi kTqv4QZIhHSrZ5IYxo87WwEUofArzAxLqIqKo/n2bkTZcHTMiYjmHabg794srwilsAUI EZBDmpG70niAzOLS5XgVyM/4PgF015l8BAtOVJuFjrqeDptAX7UoI3M9+ZCpgqxtIY9d ZGt2HYqYXYpWSNv7d6BtFCb0L7X+IhG1sD2cjxtDsWJmpqtHY5qC8A/9TgRkdmZpsPns Zdxw== Received: by 10.216.213.28 with SMTP id z28mr5304610weo.50.1339857776264; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 07:42:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.dg (41-132-211-220.dsl.mweb.co.za. [41.132.211.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d3sm19127497wiz.9.2012.06.16.07.42.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 16 Jun 2012 07:42:55 -0700 (PDT) From: David Naylor To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:42:44 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-STABLE; KDE/4.8.3; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart8429053.DaUZGmQS4s"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201206161642.51562.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.4.1 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:43:03 -0000 --nextPart8429053.DaUZGmQS4s Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.4.1 have been uploaded to mediafire [2]. Th= e=20 packages for FreeBSD 10 use the pkgng* [3] format. =20 There are many reports that wine does not work with a clang compiled world (help in fixing this problem is appreciated as it affects quite a few users= ). The patch [4] for nVidia users is now included in the package and is run on installation (if the relevant files are accessible). Please read the installation messages for further information. Regards, David [1] MD5 (wine-1.4.x-freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.4.1,1.tbz) =3D=20 63f031c996b1201b056db34e6aa5b8f3 MD5 (wine-1.4.x-freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.4.1,1.txz) =3D=20 86aa9c66f05c61def997076befac5ba3 MD5 (wine-1.4.x-freebsd10/wine-fbsd64-1.4.1,1.txz) =3D=20 b0b19714510f278187dcf8c696cae9c0 [2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64 [3] http://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng [4] The patch is located at /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh --nextPart8429053.DaUZGmQS4s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAk/cm2sACgkQUaaFgP9pFrJungCdFir+jDy/PPsZuj9mv7w28zfi ISEAnRc/ORAyW+ly6B6XnYfOB7oZaBB7 =fbQ8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart8429053.DaUZGmQS4s-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 16 14:43:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2CD106564A for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:43:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ra@iop.kiev.ua) Received: from rmaile.iop.kiev.ua (rmaile.iop.kiev.ua [194.44.164.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878D88FC18 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:43:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.10.10.4] (k1-phoebus.iop.kiev.ua [10.10.10.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by rmaile.iop.kiev.ua (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5GBjwRt042287 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:46:06 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ra@iop.kiev.ua) Message-ID: <4FDC8DD6.5020309@iop.kiev.ua> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:44:54 +0300 From: "Andrey S. Rybak" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.4) Gecko/20120510 Icedove/10.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FDB27DB.4090500@iop.kiev.ua> <4FDB4189.30105@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4FDB4189.30105@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at rmaile.iop.kiev.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.3 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on rmaile.iop.kiev.ua Subject: Re: milter wants erase sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:43:43 -0000 _ > Have you added this to /etc/make.cnf? > > WITH_SENDMAIL_PORT= yes Yes, I have > > So if you go into > /usr/ports/mail/sendmail and: > > # make config > > You will be able to enable tls and sasl2 (amongst a whole bunch of other > stuff) giving you the correct functionality. No, this is not give me possibility to enable tls or sasl2: > > [root@myComp /usr/ports/mail/sendmail]# make config > ===> No options to configure > [root@myComp /usr/ports/mail/sendmail]# make rmconfig > ===> No user-specified options configured for sendmail-8.14.5 > I have latest version of ports... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 16 16:13:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1CB1065670 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:13:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9594D8FC08 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:13:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5GGDO2p041401; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:13:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5GGDOJ8041398; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:13:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:13:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Kurt Buff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:13:24 +0200 (CEST) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:13:28 -0000 > UEFI considerations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel binaries > http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/ > > This would seem to make compiling from source difficult. simply do not support it. As long as they are users of Fedora (as well as FreeBSD and other FREE software) there will be hardware available. Possibly the right time for non-wintel hardware to emerge. it isn't already better and cheaper only because of economy of scale - PCs are still produced by millions. But less and less, PC market is already falling. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 16 16:15:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EB910657D6 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:15:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB2D8FC12 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5GGFRRa041412; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:15:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5GGFRHN041409; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:15:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:15:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "Thomas D. Dean" In-Reply-To: <4FCF9333.70201@speakeasy.org> Message-ID: References: <4FCF9333.70201@speakeasy.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:15:27 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why Clang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:15:35 -0000 > Has the discussion on why change to clang been made available? > > I would like to know the reasoning. CLANG isn't GNU licenced. Getting rid of communist licence is right, but still it should not be the prime reason for doing things, as having GNU licenced gcc doesn't really hurt. personally i don't see CLANG anyhow better for now. AFAIK it is even more bloated than gcc > Or, is it simply a gratuitous change? > > Tom Dean > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 16 16:17:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A16106566B; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:17:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E06D8FC15; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:17:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5GGHJna041421; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:17:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5GGHJeA041418; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:17:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:17:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4FCF9C07.2000607@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <4FCF9333.70201@speakeasy.org> <4FCF9C07.2000607@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:17:20 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why Clang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:17:23 -0000 > > Clearly an update was necessary. Unfortunately, later versions of gcc > have switched to GPLv3, which is a viral license and unacceptable to the > FreeBSD project. wasn't aware of that. > > Therefore clang was chosen from amongst a number of alternatives as the > best replacement. That makes it sound as if clang is a second class > option compared to recent gcc, but this is certainly not the case: > results from clang are comparable to the latest gcc versions and the > design of clang is such that further optimizations and improvements can > be readily incorporated. and - at least for now - clang itself is very slow. But produces not worse (or better) code than gcc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 16 16:19:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28DF1065673 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C778FC18 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5GGJGJ3041430; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:19:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5GGJFfv041427; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:19:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:19:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Gary Aitken In-Reply-To: <4FD1098E.7020203@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: References: <4FD1098E.7020203@dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:19:16 +0200 (CEST) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: dumping file system subtree (/var) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:19:23 -0000 > When I originally set up my SSD, the stuff I was following indicated there was no need to put anythng on a separate filesystem. I'm now trying to build a backup system on a usb drive and I want a separate /var and /tmp. > > I had originally set the nodump flag on /tmp and /var, so my snapshot is empty for those. > > I don't think there's any reason to preserve /tmp, but is there any good way to copy /var from the running system on the SSD to another filesystem (and still preserve everything, including flags)? My impression is both mksnap_ffs and dump should only be used on a complete filesystem, not a subtree. > > Or do I need to unset the nodump flag on /var, make a snapshot of /, take a dump :-), and then split the /var out upon restore? > > And would it be wise to repartition the SSD to put /var and /tmp on their own partitions? > i really have no idea why you just don't dump it all? restore have -i option that allow you to partially restore files from a dump. I have SSD, single partition and i use dump to backup it to external hard disk. alternatively - use tar. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 16 20:27:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68EB3106566B for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:27:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1048FC14 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:27:12 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Cc:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=zyI9xRhaxLYfmKpa2OUfryQqx7rV+vL2C2Wj5sA7Eac=; b=I/a+ae1a13m9eKUwiWVUslzfGGW9MtRWfa2hUsNJglOOWOD4xOq+i9ZudhMUS3R0wnFpt3xHhOyetgttMcKcG9BZI0aUTCXvta58rcZXrShYfOzTPp1t994i06ijLYd5; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SfzaP-00040y-CH; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:27:11 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1339878423-26372-26371/5/84; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:27:03 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <201206151249.q5FCnnKF019002@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120615160005.GB20814@hemlock.hydra> <20120615235414.GA15957@hemlock.hydra> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:27:22 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (Win32) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: David Brodbeck Subject: Re: Uptime [OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:27:12 -0000 On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 19:00:57 -0500, David Brodbeck wrote: > Hard to get unless you have several kilobucks to spend on an online > type UPS, though. I actually had one I got surplus, several years > back, but the constant inverter buzz got old fast in a home > environment. Refurbups.com -- go look at the refurbished Liebert online UPSes. Plenty cheap and plenty sufficient. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 16 20:29:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C551065675 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:29:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993508FC1A for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:29:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:Content-Type; bh=1+xVIfHhAyzEHBKQVLRsCPcZQQGXNt9zmsfe5zO9+EY=; b=sQL06rdPmRo0XCJgottkVdkXTutn/0iACa1VnRGELJHsS3iVOKZaMzrF18PDSlFw1CR2Sn58dOhK913uWbgOc8/V/uBVvnuvot3xeW07CEjFaZ1yi8s46eMKJV9zFJgX; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SfzcB-00040y-22; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:28:59 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1339878538-26372-26371/5/85; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:28:58 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes References: <4FCF9333.70201@speakeasy.org> <4FCF9C07.2000607@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:29:18 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (Win32) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Wojciech Puchar Subject: Re: Why Clang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:29:02 -0000 On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 11:17:19 -0500, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > and - at least for now - clang itself is very slow. But produces not > worse (or better) code than gcc. Clang is consistently faster at compiling than GCC and it is very clean and modular -- not bloated.