From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 05:02:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2975F106564A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:02:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@one2onem.com) Received: from server.one2onem.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f878:3:47::d0e9:3d9b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587B48FC12 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:02:32 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=one2onem.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:To:From; bh=gYp39kbhjyU9wGNqzWmSnisDO4eXQm5IUjS1V3BdrtY=; b=AZxNGcnPIc/+z2Mm75dc6xlKds8xZEJO5+/v20BhOre0nGWR+RzzRtYaBxy6Fimx/rt7O4mGprY4rOG+MWuZsH0JbhJ1l0J0tmaQF5EtkJUtT8HBjCqHqUUqAMWDGoWr; Received: from [117.216.167.241] (port=19881 helo=intel24cc7d879) by server.one2onem.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SphB7-00018d-Ga for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 10:49:10 -0400 From: "Edwin Abl " To: Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 10:48:10 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac1hBmy88/7o6nMaQMClKXLQk8Ld8A== Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.one2onem.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - one2onem.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: VMware & Linux server users Data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:02:33 -0000 Hi, Looking for the contact information of Linux server users across the USA and UK? 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If you no longer wish to receive our offers, please revert with a subject line "Opt Out" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 05:24:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C210F106566C for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:24:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1258FC0A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9182D31A010D; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:15:56 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SUw9aaf1unO5; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:15:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (70-89-202-1-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 17F0531A00F6; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:15:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <5002520A.8050009@d3photography.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:15:54 -0500 From: Ryan Coleman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edwin Abl References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: VMware & Linux server users Data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:24:23 -0000 If you did your research in advance you'd realize you're in for a flame war. On 7/13/2012 9:48 AM, Edwin Abl wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > Looking for the contact information of Linux server users across the USA and > UK? Or VMware users globally? > > > > We have a segmented database of 50,000+ SUSE Linux Enterprise Server (SLES) > and Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) users. We also have large databases of > Microsoft SharePoint users, VMware users, Novell users, Windows Server > Users, Solaris, and Unix Users, Citrix Users Cisco users, HP users, Dell > users and many more.. > > > > We've helped [technology] companies like [IBM] generate higher quality sales > leads, and more of them. 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If you no longer wish to > receive our offers, please revert with a subject line "Opt Out" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 07:32:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00927106566C for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 07:32:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45988FC12 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 07:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B5B5083D for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:23:43 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:23:43 -0700 Message-ID: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 07:32:19 -0000 I have a sizable (200GB) external USB 2.0 interface hard drive. (Actually, it's a plain old PATA drive in one of those enclosures that allows it to speak USB 2.0.) So anyway, to make this external drive work with things other than just my FreeBSD system, the drive has been formatted so that it contains a single, all-encompassing FAT32 filesystem. For various reasons that I won't go into, the thing experienced a power fail while it was being written to. I can successfully remount it on my FreeBSD system, so apparently, the FAT32 filesystem isn't too awfully damaged... at least not in the vicinity of the root directory. But I am old school, and paranoid, so I'd really like to run the FAT32 equivalent of fsck on the thing, to clean up any filesystem glitches. Is there any such a tool (as fsck for FAT32) available for freeBSD? If so, where would I find it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 07:43:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E45106566C for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 07:43:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43BAD8FC18 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 07:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so8829689pbb.13 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:43:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=C0UJmtqikfYvyP36pPmYoiXwA/YAQqFIoBztx3VuBAE=; b=qikF8yMJXDNb6mXQhJ8pfuxhmRJV1QumT3qkYz4TtdL7Wa50w8RI1KGfZFl1VmkP8A qr3Lb5mygHwwiJv5Xw+aBCxwgh4DNlw4EF9iyozIEEH3iAnlcSURDCLAo4KQhcxhi5Sk e3t/ZANd3HIAEnnU3AVUDi0j7ukKBjidNiGGquF+iL7cSX/Mv0MB/dPCThv7VYOlReMu qFnRuptME3JlgotLaqV/nzvSt+nQkqLvZGJIxKdVBbTS1TBjysooSu1OsYKEMQMZ/F+x XZG3lJqqrdw9BVgqjNjkQfHxZi+QKesWV3OEz9oRI3GhAeXJALmLactxykmiwvTq6P44 aDHg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.134.201 with SMTP id pm9mr17718759pbb.49.1342338184860; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.227.132 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:43:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> References: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 02:43:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 07:43:05 -0000 On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > Is there any such a tool (as fsck for FAT32) available for freeBSD? If so, > where would I find it? > /sbin/fsck_msdosfs -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 08:56:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F491065670 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 08:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554F28FC08 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 08:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6F8uNmG002541; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 10:56:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6F8uMEw002538; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 10:56:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 10:56:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" In-Reply-To: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: References: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 15 Jul 2012 10:56:24 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 08:56:33 -0000 > Is there any such a tool (as fsck for FAT32) available for freeBSD? If so, > where would I find it? fsck_msdosfs but, in spite of some fanatics here my get worried, i do recommend use windoze scandisk. When recovering data from FAT32 i've proven myself what is actually a better tool. unless your disk is badly corrupted fsck_msdosfs would be fine too. but gets funny crashes when there are thousands of losts files. 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[82.234.66.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id eu4sm15360721wib.2.2012.07.15.05.11.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:11:18 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=E9r=F4me_Lebel?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:11:16 +0200 Message-Id: <910FDED0-2B60-43B9-B172-66ABE40364A0@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Subject: Kernel panic while importing a pool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:11:20 -0000 Hi, I had several kernel panics, and I finally understood that one of memory = was bad. I removed it. But now, each time I try to import my pool, I get = a kernel panic I'm using freebsd 9.0-release generic Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid =3D 1; apic id =3D 01 fault virtual address =3D 0x468 fault code =3D supervisor read data, page not present instruction pointer =3D 0x20:0xffffffff81473525 stack pointer =3D 0x28:0xffffff811c98e370 frame pointer =3D 0x28:0xffffff811c98e390 code segment =3D base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b =3D DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1 processor eflags =3D interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL =3D 0 current process =3D 1592 (txg_thread_enter) trap number =3D 12 panic: page fault cpuid =3D 1 KDB: stack backtrace: #0 0xffffffff808680fe at kdb_backtrace+0x5e #1 0xffffffff80832cb7 at panic+0x187 #2 0xffffffff80b18400 at trap_fatal+0x290 #3 0xffffffff80b18749 at trap_pfault+0x1f9 #4 0xffffffff80b18c0f at trap+0x3df #5 0xffffffff80b0313f at calltrap+0x8 #6 0xffffffff8147357e at bp_get_dsize_sync+0x3e #7 0xffffffff8145e9b0 at dsl_scan_free_cb+0x120 #8 0xffffffff81430c74 at bpobj_iterate_impl+0xd4 #9 0xffffffff81430ebb at bpobj_iterate_impl+0x31b #10 0xffffffff8145fbc3 at dsl_scan_sync+0x4c3 #11 0xffffffff814670e0 at spa_sync+0x390 #12 0xffffffff81477739 at txg_sync_thread+0x139 #13 0xffffffff8080682f at fork_exit+0x11f #14 0xffffffff80b0366e at fork_trampoline+0xe dmesg : http://privatepaste.com/5c8c738627 What else can I add to help solving this bug? I'm not very good with freebsd. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c70sm24119086yhk.12.2012.07.15.05.30.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3WZnC554nDz2CG67 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 08:30:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 08:30:09 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120715083009.57cd779f@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkwYPfTHb6UIv88lP+gyuuajgiowAGehDFyvVpT1sWE64EMjtppmELijt6IVcKHD/5vsHtL Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:30:18 -0000 On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 10:56:22 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar articulated: > > Is there any such a tool (as fsck for FAT32) available for > > freeBSD? If so, where would I find it? > > fsck_msdosfs > > but, in spite of some fanatics here my get worried, i do recommend > use Window's Scandisk. If you absolutely, positively have to recover the drive, I would recommend SpinRite 6 . Its not free; however, I have witnessed it recovering drives that other utilities gave up on. The only problem is that if you use another utility first it may mangle up the drive so bad that SpinRite cannot correct it. Its not quick either. I have seen it take an entire week to rebuild an 80 GB drive, but it DID actually recover all of the data. The choice is yours; however, running SpinRite at its maximum strength -- 5 -- is about as good as it gets unless you want to try a commercial outlet. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 12:37:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA241065673 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04A58FC08 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:37:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19FCAE656F; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:39:18 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=GwSksWrZs5OJ W00WH6cAMXvJK8E=; b=WS/l+hbvq+ZK7XGK8m2HO2/IFoD0+YxpSz19gDxTWFpa rypHo3xoYD5eOI/wITOgfIV5nBpb2dQRLuX3nI9yM1KFDl0zMH44zwCCcmzM4cpK IeixvvJ9L7VNHzc4DZIijWvMYiSOW9NHsEqSbhjf87HNgzGmKujqvzNYGpGtFxI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=qASKEd W1HdxUxiz+edZtGTm1lVTTCzkXbAanpxky2dHPU4ciLAK+d+aTDG4tD3YcGwCBUd xewOaLBUTVV9kK0xtsHkc//6AmPelGm90CBn/JZzH7Hrm82ijCMgNdowdLcBGds2 v4F3qQ0jjInxDARNX2T87/h31w2Qusb2fdSAU= Received: from [192.168.2.11] (unknown [93.89.81.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EC13BE643F; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:39:17 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <5002B996.2000603@cran.org.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:37:42 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:37:45 -0000 On 15/07/2012 09:56, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > but, in spite of some fanatics here my get worried, i do recommend use > windoze scandisk. I'd forgotten about scandisk - for modern Windows (XP and newer) you'll want to use chkdsk ( e.g. 'chkdsk /F C:' ). -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 18:04:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BEA106566C for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:04:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB97F8FC12 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:04:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21243 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2012 18:04:08 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 15 Jul 2012 18:04:08 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:vbr-info; s=50030618.xn--btvx9d.k1207; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=tDfW1wv+QdksMEJlUGd6pzk0PTxQBi3lKdsqd+uu2MA=; b=nZV4za73utlLcsf5GV8iVO2muVGT2U25hS0Rm+zaasgXV/m8XWq59ysf+CaL2zT3yxLEkfd4uzgPkKEexQnx9GK+Kgn2Qn5shdEqSRsM3PhRBuX16eEA6NxQP+tnPy9cHoG03mwg9+GMF2T1TiotHJsRVINgbzDg0bdGMZPv4Zg= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Date: 15 Jul 2012 18:03:45 -0000 Message-ID: <20120715180345.25451.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: rfg@tristatelogic.com Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:04:10 -0000 >Is there any such a tool (as fsck for FAT32) available for freeBSD? If so, >where would I find it? There's fsck_msdosfs, part of the base system. Regular fsck should call it automatically if you run it on a FAT filesystem. R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 18:43:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046BF106564A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673238FC08 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6FIhhh2001446 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:43:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6FIhg3r001443 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:43:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:43:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20120715083009.57cd779f@scorpio> Message-ID: References: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> <20120715083009.57cd779f@scorpio> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:43:43 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:43:58 -0000 > If you absolutely, positively have to recover the drive, I would > recommend SpinRite 6 . Its not free; again i would recommend standard windows scandisk. such tools as "the other" utilities are usually not better. make sure you have full disk backup anyway From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 18:44:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B581065698 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D466B8FC14 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6FIhwXs001452; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:43:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6FIhvpO001449; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:43:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:43:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Bruce Cran In-Reply-To: <5002B996.2000603@cran.org.uk> Message-ID: References: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> <5002B996.2000603@cran.org.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:43:58 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:44:08 -0000 On Sun, 15 Jul 2012, Bruce Cran wrote: > On 15/07/2012 09:56, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> but, in spite of some fanatics here my get worried, i do recommend use >> windoze scandisk. > > I'd forgotten about scandisk - for modern Windows (XP and newer) you'll want > to use chkdsk ( e.g. 'chkdsk /F C:' ). > both do the same > -- > Bruce Cran > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 18:49:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA70106564A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [93.89.92.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42DA8FC14 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:49:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986F3E656F; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:51:25 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=msKkEOqishZc ndRizvvi5crWa9k=; b=eGsYizUv3qeMIZZDNbK1YY292Y7HskEfTqiMOiPrQSSK cX6ksuXk4BmkVsPKEUg/XqSRnu5UN7ECTh+5K/ebVsbFw3q2lahoFHdt1FRHP7p4 O4adIPlc1A7Xvu6M+oGsyziE222CwBP/wkiMGlGJMOvHnqt3XFp98H0FCWNEpSo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=sww6tR uP5wd4WdQvnAXzEQjTOa9GtKGueYemuz7JqUVylXgHyi5SEN0h59bSTTRuLMgGRS KtJ1ri7lpAq74hD5KyDqcPdKR4f6koVZLeXgkE5nOCCam4+sqa6Co3z/meAyK/eL /iHGa08Qd7jnKx84YhY2tZmCZKEomIVurPpAQ= Received: from [192.168.2.11] (unknown [93.89.81.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 75D0BE643F; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:51:25 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <500310CC.6000803@cran.org.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:49:48 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> <5002B996.2000603@cran.org.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:49:58 -0000 On 15/07/2012 19:43, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > both do the same 'scandisk' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 18:51:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23880106564A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:51:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A088FC0A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:51:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9113B5083F for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:51:57 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:51:57 -0700 Message-ID: <64329.1342378317@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:51:59 -0000 In message , Adam Vande More wrote: >On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette >wrote: >> >> Is there any such a tool (as fsck for FAT32) available for freeBSD? If so, >> where would I find it? >> > >/sbin/fsck_msdosfs Thank you. That sure sounds like it ought to do the trick. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 18:59:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16342106564A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:59:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97558FC15 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92475083D for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:59:47 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <5002B996.2000603@cran.org.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:59:47 -0700 Message-ID: <64396.1342378787@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:59:48 -0000 In message <5002B996.2000603@cran.org.uk>, Bruce Cran wrote: >On 15/07/2012 09:56, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> but, in spite of some fanatics here my get worried, i do recommend use >> windoze scandisk. > >I'd forgotten about scandisk - for modern Windows (XP and newer) you'll >want to use chkdsk ( e.g. 'chkdsk /F C:' ). Thank you. I had considered maybe using scandisk/chkdsk, but I loath turning on my one and only Windoze system unless I have to. (Mostly I keep it turned off so that its inherently evil aura will not accidently leak out and perhaps contaminate any of my other equipment.) 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a79sm25525011yhk.16.2012.07.15.12.37.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3WZyh80K2Cz2CG62 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:37:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:37:27 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120715153727.74c959c3@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> <5002B996.2000603@cran.org.uk> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmYBNdIUUm7Hfm3aqhkXJONqVH12jPBw95HlhQvLqCRWj9uSr4w1XE8jBY1VXd6qdhe9dtS Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:37:32 -0000 On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:43:57 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar articulated: > On Sun, 15 Jul 2012, Bruce Cran wrote: > > > On 15/07/2012 09:56, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> but, in spite of some fanatics here my get worried, i do recommend > >> use windoze scandisk. > > > > I'd forgotten about scandisk - for modern Windows (XP and newer) > > you'll want to use chkdsk ( e.g. 'chkdsk /F C:' ). ^^^^^ [VOLUME[PATH]FILENAME]] /F Use the [/R] option to recover data {implies /F} In any case, SpinRite is a much better option. > both do the same No they don't. 1) Unlike CHKDSK, ScanDisk would also repair cross linked files. 2) ScanDisk cannot check NTFS disk drives, and therefore it is unavailable for computers that may be running NT based (including Windows 2000, Windows XP, etc.) versions of Windows. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 19:48:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E5D1065672 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:48:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52BE8FC0C for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:48:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-22-218.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.22.218]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1016B3CA61; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:48:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q6FJmNwM002580; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:48:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:48:23 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Message-Id: <20120715214823.679eb23d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <64329.1342378317@tristatelogic.com> References: <64329.1342378317@tristatelogic.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:48:33 -0000 On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:51:57 -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > In message > , Adam Vande More wrote: > > >On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette > >wrote: > >> > >> Is there any such a tool (as fsck for FAT32) available for freeBSD? If so, > >> where would I find it? > >> > > > >/sbin/fsck_msdosfs > > > Thank you. That sure sounds like it ought to do the trick. It will do its job: Check the file system's integrity. >From that point, you will either have the answer that everything is okay, or you have to go into the direction of recovery. In that case, different tools need to be used. For example, make an 1:1 copy using dd (or ddrescue or dd_rescue) of the disk. Work with a copy of that copy. Do not alter the disk. Then use tools that do the job of recovery (see my list postings about that topic, they contain a good list of tools you can use on UNIX). The suggestion of SpinRite is also good, even though the program is expensive. I'm confident it's worth its money. But if you are willing to _learn_ (which means to read and to experiment), the free recovery tools available through the Ports Collection are really good. Example: I had to recover data from a USB stick that "Windows" had "repaired", so no files could be read anymore. Getting a copy of the stick required a long time (because it was already damaged), but with the help of the free programs, I could recover _all_ files from the stick, and hand them over to a happy customer. But as I said, it may be possible that you don't have to walk the rugged streets of data recovery. :-) Suggestion: First use fsck_msdosfs without any parameters so it will ONLY CHECK the disk without altering anything (also see "man fsck" for -n, -v and maybe -d). Addendum: For dealing with non-standard file systems (such as FAT/msdosfs), the use of the _native tools_ seems to be the best solution in most times. In exceptions, it makes things worse. Still in most situations it just does the right thing. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 20:12:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4177E1065674 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:12:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrkvrg@acm.org) Received: from xena.bway.net (xena.bway.net [216.220.96.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFDB98FC1A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:12:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 63543 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jul 2012 20:05:56 -0000 Received: from smtp.bway.net (216.220.96.25) by xena.bway.net with ESMTPS (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted); 15 Jul 2012 20:05:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 63539 invoked by uid 90); 15 Jul 2012 20:05:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gecko3.bs.net) (216.220.115.209) by smtp.bway.net with ESMTPS (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted); 15 Jul 2012 20:05:56 -0000 From: mrkvrg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:05:54 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE-p1; KDE/4.5.5; i386; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201207151605.54759.mrkvrg@acm.org> Subject: Re: Is there a way to run FreeBSD ports through port 80? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mrkvrg@acm.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:12:38 -0000 Hello All, I have a similar problem with passive ftp due to a self-imposed=20 restrictive firewall. When "make fetch" is run on a port and ftp data=20 is required, the PF firewall stops the program from completing. I got=20 around this problem by restarting the firewall with a separate set of=20 rules that opened up more ports needed for passive ftp. After the fetch=20 operation I would then restart PF with the more restrictive rules. This=20 sequence works but is a pain to maintain and also opens up a large=20 number of ports during ftp operations. I would like to have a setup in=20 which I do not have to restart my firewall every time I need to use=20 passive ftp. =46rom past experience setting MASTER_SORT to http works for those ports=20 that use http but obviously has not worked for those ports that ONLY use=20 ftp. I tried to use ftp-proxy but as far as I'm able to ascertain it will not=20 work on my simple home office setup. It is a single client connected to=20 the internet via a router: host <--> router <--> adsl modem <--> ISP. Any help to resolve this will be greatly appreciated. Cheers ... Mark On Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:23:29 Kaya Saman wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I am trying to introduce FreeBSD into my office and it's been looked > at with quite a bit of enthusiasm however, what makes it look bad is > our companies 'security' policy to block FTP. >=20 > At present they are running a whole bunch of CentOS based boxes and > VM's which of course can be run through port 80 when using YUM. >=20 >=20 > How does one get round this issue as my superiors are telling me that > opening up FTP is a security risk and therefor don't want to proceed? >=20 >=20 > I would like to use ports specifically and not the pkg_add tool to > get software. >=20 >=20 > Can anyone sugget anything? >=20 >=20 > Regards, >=20 >=20 > Kaya > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 20:23:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38E9106564A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:23:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA688FC12 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:23:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl8 with SMTP id l8so5237081yen.13 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:23:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ILigbgUDKr7ikbfrZjGrFjSxgp8B4evFnvwGQBA6maQ=; b=e1u1EA8EGgkkMgWPYyKEvagRYv93+YozLBFPTGoDokf6h5RwGaMmfexc8bVVTIGXgW yFMkLTO3HvLba5SgBkXXxPjieQu6mfEwgMKmdMLaViWIAlzFRQTdAND6p7OOVEOZbe9/ 7KYMGt3FgOxfdjbEOAasIVEaS2zjJVXPefM50= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=ILigbgUDKr7ikbfrZjGrFjSxgp8B4evFnvwGQBA6maQ=; b=MLjTHx0V8XDRCsHJvXQhXL0wLCC+q0P4j3+9hXudj/uIK6+AQY7K66Y8CEDCN6ERbA Z5p4jztjbFNZevXkme1AkKiB+tz2dGar5XCVDDIdV4MXAqr+GeMl+YeVQECePJlyY6eT b8Nd0dyg7gYdYpYBgnGBSBPKNxdDDZXRvTWZSyzByeRfH19G3/CqAgmvQkdHFfjGSA82 AF5LS44CNTIvQleRINjKcf5seG3QZ6ZMVBIkfM2WHOtKVq4MG2kgi5DR4J4OwP2oDf5b 1AYqM6+CDEe3c6BFnuaCcntbAwUjQMFwFq/9enzqwyhsqJdznjcfdrEHTC58wxvzxql9 daqw== Received: by 10.236.79.35 with SMTP id h23mr7600208yhe.60.1342383816796; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l49sm25679359yhk.15.2012.07.15.13.23.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3WZzjK6cZpz2CG62 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:23:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:23:33 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120715162333.45b82082@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120715214823.679eb23d.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <64329.1342378317@tristatelogic.com> <20120715214823.679eb23d.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlfJjbDXtQmVdmix6D51ggp57rB76b5I1CW3M4IJUvzjy6PfDoaxZ7MoNpjxNcloZ2L4HXh Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:23:37 -0000 On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:48:23 +0200 Polytropon articulated: > For example, make an 1:1 copy using dd (or ddrescue or dd_rescue) > of the disk. Work with a copy of that copy. Do not alter the disk. > Then use tools that do the job of recovery (see my list postings > about that topic, they contain a good list of tools you can use > on UNIX). The suggestion of SpinRite is also good, even though > the program is expensive. I'm confident it's worth its money. > But if you are willing to _learn_ (which means to read and to > experiment), the free recovery tools available through the > Ports Collection are really good. If I might interject here, making a copy is obviously imperative; however, it also exposes a severe problem. You are working under the assumption that the copy is actually correct.In fact, it is simply what is being read from the disk at the time of the copy. It may in fact be totally in error. SpinRite will attempt to read a damage sector up to 2000 times and through different algorithms determine what is most likely the correct data. Obviously it cannot do that if it is working with a copy of the drive. It must have access to the original drive. I have to admit that am partial to SpinRite since it saved my ass twice in the past 10 years when no other software could do the job 100%. Hence, if you cannot afford to lose your data, back it up. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 21:29:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70046106564A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:29:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A178FC14 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6FLTewk002635 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:29:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6FLTeFs002632 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:29:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:29:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20120715162333.45b82082@scorpio> Message-ID: References: <64329.1342378317@tristatelogic.com> <20120715214823.679eb23d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120715162333.45b82082@scorpio> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:29:40 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:29:47 -0000 > totally in error. SpinRite will attempt to read a damage sector up to > 2000 times and through different algorithms determine what is most man dd conv=sync,noerror From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 21:46:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126A11065780 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:46:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67E38FC08 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:46:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so9665469pbb.13 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:46:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=dJ6g8XIlP6K0BMJZmRPon8x8K4FSQzIQ00QcTMwkKnM=; b=LAPVy2DNJHx5SgrEs8tD6Ji1o+QW2+ih4B50rI36TjImEfUWKRIPYxj/7W+4Rsfz6l bISCVHGMes1ZpSZqrVj5oD1iacsqnd0xaNaDEt7DCIWT5002JJgpLBuFIJpUyxKZCySy SjlsJ7K9L2sp782kr00OhIrfK6He7xn8ufg6gX7Gbao2ox603N7+gLN/T7wPScJuTNGj FOzbbw80ry27AxqDr9VFLHbZ3rwRFn6yd1EKaI8AuX22xPq1BKI2LMgpLWkXi7oag7Gr JzjCAXy6c+6hnRbg0io4IPuGlOTiEO2h8s3zENAtEUwHy7SZSCTf8PU36z4cHxUHfHGg zz2w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.201.195 with SMTP id kc3mr22438529pbc.33.1342388813658; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.227.132 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:46:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <64329.1342378317@tristatelogic.com> <20120715214823.679eb23d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120715162333.45b82082@scorpio> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:46:53 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:46:54 -0000 On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Wojciech Puchar < wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > totally in error. SpinRite will attempt to read a damage sector up to >> 2000 times and through different algorithms determine what is most >> > > man dd > Even better, recoverdisk /dev/da0 /dev/da1 -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 21:48:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3CCF1065672 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:48:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7979F8FC23 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:48:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SqWfX-0000F6-Mt for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:47:59 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SqWfX-0006lm-9f for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:47:59 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6FLlwth026308 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:47:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q6FLlwsx026307 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:47:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:47:58 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120715214758.GA26300@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: where is LOCALBASE actually defined? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:48:07 -0000 $ cat Makefile all: echo $(LOCALBASE) $ $ make echo $ What do I need to do to use LOCALBASE in my makefiles? Thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 21:48:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D291065672 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:48:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62428FC1A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-22-218.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.22.218]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B3A241EC; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:48:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q6FLmH38002873; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:48:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:48:17 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Wojciech Puchar Message-Id: <20120715234817.fcfb1489.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <64329.1342378317@tristatelogic.com> <20120715214823.679eb23d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120715162333.45b82082@scorpio> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:48:26 -0000 On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:29:39 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > totally in error. SpinRite will attempt to read a damage sector up to > > 2000 times and through different algorithms determine what is most > > man dd > > conv=sync,noerror Even though it doesn't use different algorithms, programs like dd_rescue and ddrescue can also change the block size upon encountering read errors, and apply several cycles of read attempts. In worst case, there will be "gaps" in the result. Surely SpinRite is "more clever" than that, using some means to "extrapolate" the missing data. http://www.garloff.de/kurt/linux/ddrescue/ http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 22:06:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333D7106566C for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60558FC08 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:06:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3so10582255obb.13 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:06:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=fdU+yxNeLlwoIybyz6TQmlfZzDBRxgoI0X6WnMq43kc=; b=TVwRbkk4u42TNa6WgQR97Z8QVYXrQ6SQsMBv9HzLEc/RLruwDwT+rnN4/ieWib0T+t e/XUPCT/clS4af8uxaDmmahC3jj5Hxsvb4iaIkp0oDxrhyhztf/IT3WTGnu++POqH1S6 9mFJaXsKTnULf4Oj0G20EpG+NrDhM++fCEXEg= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=fdU+yxNeLlwoIybyz6TQmlfZzDBRxgoI0X6WnMq43kc=; b=lYes/KHtaJgpdSOmmEDBTbKVqoFj1qsHq/q063FXBDpYdN00HEQFd8gf4v8KrrX9Ig msaJgqtb+xJ7mMT+/QYawYbxaWCpkrzZt10+KVzr/rjqL3WrgCNT2gBPA7DS1bAl3f9v l227sUDU6w9PzeGgNeE2xtSpY/586g8awzM9FDQFlnyLBgoePiCv8UBVTcBar0GQICcB bQuhDA4AF7z3LalRRTSqVQTNTJxFiVAfY4wODYGxqbMStyp2iE/Wf+3LQqV3JJm8zLC4 cAlg/CO4injblmY5QxgX+C7lUBHiNYwR0zoGS3gKNyRWi1NHrAlIlgb0bny83CddevJ/ IhdQ== Received: by 10.60.168.230 with SMTP id zz6mr1579871oeb.11.1342390005241; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:06:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.125.70 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:06:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120715214758.GA26300@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20120715214758.GA26300@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> From: Eitan Adler Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:06:14 -0700 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkZXF9ruce07fQaaYjxbUYVkA6R+zSxblbgOkXmAQnVcNkauA/FBNe6EUU3XtqCIfkQmxMJ Subject: Re: where is LOCALBASE actually defined? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:06:46 -0000 On 15 July 2012 14:47, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > $ cat Makefile > all: > echo $(LOCALBASE) > $ > $ make > echo easier way to test is "make -V LOCALBASE" > What do I need to do to use LOCALBASE > in my makefiles? You need to include "bsd.port.mk" (found in /usr/ports/Mk) -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 22:17:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48107106564A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:17:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC908FC08 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:17:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SqX8L-0000wA-8f; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:17:45 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SqX8K-00077T-BW; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:17:44 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6FMHip1026414; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:17:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q6FMHiAg026413; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:17:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:17:43 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Eitan Adler Message-ID: <20120715221743.GA26377@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Eitan Adler , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120715214758.GA26300@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where is LOCALBASE actually defined? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:17:46 -0000 On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 03:06:14PM -0700, Eitan Adler wrote: > On 15 July 2012 14:47, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > $ cat Makefile > > all: > > echo $(LOCALBASE) > > $ > > $ make > > echo > > easier way to test is "make -V LOCALBASE" > > > What do I need to do to use LOCALBASE > > in my makefiles? > > You need to include "bsd.port.mk" (found in /usr/ports/Mk) I though LOCALBASE has meaning outside of the ports system too. Clearly I was wrong. So, if I happen not to have the ports tree, I cannot use LOCALBASE in my makefiles, right? -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 22:23:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E451065701 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:23:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1142C8FC17 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:23:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3so10603484obb.13 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:23:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=UwzXeG9TdAOJZ+hTSPRn7v3DhNgOTvkGvxexOSV70c0=; b=VCeAo5RWe0GQ78cYeNStXungNWhdgIbl4qwmCkpfOEmBFSozps0SskZmP3NvYDyRiw Gys8PLChafl20KDvLYor4aoHs1jGV9jkEH/Sn5aSwLZwldzBG05kSo2jjmv0omJpvxmn rf4DWs5XrcFVZ3WeYH9X4MpzY2mz+0/M5wOl8= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=UwzXeG9TdAOJZ+hTSPRn7v3DhNgOTvkGvxexOSV70c0=; b=BIHr0PbWwrDP0hU2dmhCglPq5XFgW7J823LspcsMUP8vSXB6hSvNbuEp77pO1XLr+2 KsQqT2sUvegB3cNrV+GL4bmKulglOlXTrlhXlTITjb1YMcloCCX3o74S389ycBRPZIBj Auin+ToxEgzCPUUpUvoYto7z7mXR6V6H7qHihZ2HFYIdDjuCE9XQqy2oGrGcw4Ang4P6 EWeccUIBo/l1XyjrCvVoSl7PhojZoDnwALoa0HxSCpVSDYCAUxUxsevDvnhKYOSqUYcM hGNG9k0M/5nCWyJ7cuEuHP/oAxQ8PHt7akCOsUkGjp8WkfecewVtLUnc2fNfOLKiX1cZ 9eSw== Received: by 10.182.88.9 with SMTP id bc9mr12548146obb.4.1342390980621; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:23:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.125.70 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:22:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120715221743.GA26377@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20120715214758.GA26300@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20120715221743.GA26377@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> From: Eitan Adler Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:22:29 -0700 Message-ID: To: Eitan Adler , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlzqB8wuFDFuOPPnxpuJ6bEJszDBBbLyiM+JjI1cEX0Ul6S2OQuVFWwig+n+sXCuZTgXMlM Cc: Subject: Re: where is LOCALBASE actually defined? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:23:01 -0000 On 15 July 2012 15:17, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I though LOCALBASE has meaning outside > of the ports system too. Clearly I was wrong. > > So, if I happen not to have the ports tree, > I cannot use LOCALBASE in my makefiles, right? correct. LOCALBASE is a ports tree specific thing. you could define it yourself as follows: LOCALBASE?=/usr/local -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 23:08:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC73106564A; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:08:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80E28FC0A; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SqXvi-0002IN-Qk; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:08:46 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SqXvi-0007k4-9M; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:08:46 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6FN8ktv026594; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:08:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q6FN8jGv026593; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:08:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:08:45 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120715230845.GA26528@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: ati, radeon, dri (drm) confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:08:48 -0000 My X behaves really weird lately [1,2], so I went back to basics. Can somebody please comment on whether what I'm doing seems correct. Thanks HP Compaq 6715s laptop FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #9 r238259M amd64 vgapci0@pci0:1:5:0: class=0x030000 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x791f1002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc' device = 'RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]' class = display subclass = VGA which, according to radeon(4x), is supported by radeon driver. I've got in the kernel, amongst other things,: device agp device drm device radeondrm device vga I then see in dmesg: $ dmesg | grep vga vgapci0: port 0x4000-0x40ff mem 0xc0100000-0xc80fffff,0 xd0200000-0xd020ffff,0xd0300000-0xd03fffff irq 19 at device 5.0 on pci1 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 $ dmesg | grep -i agp $ dmesg | grep -i radeon Is this expected that there's nothing related to either agp on radeon in dmesg? Anyway, if I do X auto-configure, i.e. X -configure, I get in the resulting xorg.conf.new: Identifier "Card0" Driver "radeon" VendorName "Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI" BoardName "RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]" BusID "PCI:1:5:0" Is that correct? I then see in /var/log/Xorg.0.log: drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 Failed to change owner or group for file /dev/dri! 2: No such file or directory Failed to change owner or group for file /dev/dri/card0! 2: No such file or dire ctory drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such file or directory) Failed to change owner or group for file /dev/dri/card0! 2: No such file or dire ctory drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such file or directory) drmOpenDevice: Open failed [drm] failed to load kernel module "radeon" (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM [dri] Disabling DRI. I guess this is not good, right? Please advise [1] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2012-June/012100.html [2] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2012-July/035171.html -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 00:48:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF34B1065672 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:48:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from akirchhoff135014@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5BF8FC16 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.71]) by QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aod91j0041YDfWL5BooLVc; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:48:20 +0000 Received: from [192.168.5.101] ([68.83.2.18]) by omta20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aooA1j00S0PJoQc3gooAbH; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:48:11 +0000 Message-ID: <1342399697.9982.0.camel@sorrow-ub> From: Adam K Kirchhoff To: Anton Shterenlikht Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:48:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20120715230845.GA26528@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20120715230845.GA26528@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.3-0ubuntu6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ati, radeon, dri (drm) confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:48:24 -0000 Have you tried loading the radeon kernel module from /boot/loader.conf? Or even from the console, before starting X? Adam On Mon, 2012-07-16 at 00:08 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > My X behaves really weird lately [1,2], > so I went back to basics. Can somebody > please comment on whether what I'm doing > seems correct. Thanks > > HP Compaq 6715s laptop > FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #9 r238259M amd64 > > vgapci0@pci0:1:5:0: class=0x030000 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x791f1002 rev=0x00 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc' > device = 'RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]' > class = display > subclass = VGA > > which, according to radeon(4x), is > supported by radeon driver. > > I've got in the kernel, amongst other things,: > > device agp > device drm > device radeondrm > device vga > > I then see in dmesg: > > $ dmesg | grep vga > vgapci0: port 0x4000-0x40ff mem 0xc0100000-0xc80fffff,0 > xd0200000-0xd020ffff,0xd0300000-0xd03fffff irq 19 at device 5.0 on pci1 > vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 > $ dmesg | grep -i agp > $ dmesg | grep -i radeon > > Is this expected that there's nothing > related to either agp on radeon in dmesg? > > Anyway, if I do X auto-configure, i.e. > X -configure, I get in the resulting > xorg.conf.new: > > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "radeon" > VendorName "Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI" > BoardName "RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]" > BusID "PCI:1:5:0" > > Is that correct? > > I then see in /var/log/Xorg.0.log: > > drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 > Failed to change owner or group for file /dev/dri! 2: No such file or directory > Failed to change owner or group for file /dev/dri/card0! 2: No such file or dire > ctory > drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such file or directory) > Failed to change owner or group for file /dev/dri/card0! 2: No such file or dire > ctory > drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such file or directory) > drmOpenDevice: Open failed > [drm] failed to load kernel module "radeon" > (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM > [dri] Disabling DRI. > > I guess this is not good, right? > > Please advise > > [1] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2012-June/012100.html > [2] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2012-July/035171.html > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 01:58:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8181065670 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 01:58:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net [IPv6:2001:44b8:8060:ff02:300:1:6:4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5118FC0A for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 01:58:13 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAPp0A1CWZWdv/2dsb2JhbABFuTqCIAEBBXkQCxguVwYTiAwMuiSLQBqGLQOISZJIijCCb4FP Received: from ppp103-111.static.internode.on.net (HELO lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws) ([150.101.103.111]) by ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 16 Jul 2012 11:27:48 +0930 X-Envelope-From: ws@au.dyndns.ws X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from [172.17.17.134] (ws@predator-ii.buffyverse [172.17.17.134]) by lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6G1vXFs097986; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:27:34 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) From: Wayne Sierke To: Alexander Kapshuk In-Reply-To: <4FFF269F.406@gmail.com> References: <4FFF269F.406@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ASCII" Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:27:35 +0930 Message-ID: <1342403856.3212.3.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws [172.17.17.142]); Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:27:34 +0930 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.72 on 172.17.17.142 X-Scanned-By: SpamAssassin 3.003002(2011-06-06) X-Scanned-By: ClamAV X-Spam-Score: -2.9 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: re: Patch failed to apply cleanly [chromium-20.0.1132.57] FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 01:58:14 -0000 On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 22:33 +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > When attempting to upgrade chromium-19.0.1084.56_1 to > chromium-20.0.1132.57 on FreeBSD9.0 (FreeBSD box2 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD > 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan 3 07:15:25 UTC 2012 > root@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386), one of > the patches failed to apply: > -------------------------------------- > ===> Applying extra patch /usr/ports/www/chromium/files/extra-patch-gcc > ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for chromium-20.0.1132.57 > patch: **** malformed patch at line 15: #if PLATFORM(CHROMIUM) > => Patch patch-third_party__WebKit__Source__WebCore__config.h failed to > apply cleanly. > -------------------------------------- > There seems to be a patch available that has been reported as having > worked on a 9.0-RELEASE/amd64: > http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-chromium@freebsd.org/msg00340.html > ----------------------------- > www/chromium/files/patch-third_party__WebKit__Source__WebCore__config.h.orig > > 2012-07-12 09:19:26.000000000 +0000 > +++ www/chromium/files/patch-third_party__WebKit__Source__WebCore__config.h > 2012-07-12 10:49:20.000000000 +0000 > @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@ > ---- third_party/WebKit/Source/WebCore/config.h.orig 2012-05-30 > 10:05:35.000000000 +0300 > -+++ third_party/WebKit/Source/WebCore/config.h 2012-06-05 > 22:32:48.000000000 > +0300 > -@@ -127,6 +127,11 @@ > +--- third_party/WebKit/Source/WebCore/config.h.orig 2012-07-10 > 07:52:48.000000000 +0000 > ++++ third_party/WebKit/Source/WebCore/config.h 2012-07-12 > 10:48:15.000000000 > +0000 > +@@ -127,6 +127,14 @@ > #define WTF_USE_NEW_THEME 1 > #endif // PLATFORM(MAC) > ------------------------------------- > Is there a patch available to an x86 based system? The same patch will work for x86. In lieu of the patch simply edit www/chromium/files/patch-third_party__WebKit__Source__WebCore__config.h and change the line: @@ -127,6 +127,11 @@ to: @@ -127,6 +127,14 @@ Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 06:15:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3F1106566B for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 06:15:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A316A8FC08 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 06:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6G6FDWP004796; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:15:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6G6FDvA004793; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:15:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:15:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20120715234817.fcfb1489.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <64329.1342378317@tristatelogic.com> <20120715214823.679eb23d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120715162333.45b82082@scorpio> <20120715234817.fcfb1489.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:15:13 +0200 (CEST) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 06:15:23 -0000 > read attempts. In worst case, there will be "gaps" in the > result. >Surely SpinRite is "more clever" than that, i would bet otherwise. simple tools and free tools are always better From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 06:15:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE24D10656DE for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 06:15:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A72C8FC0C for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 06:15:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6G6FVl5004802; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:15:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6G6FVdm004799; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:15:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:15:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Adam Vande More In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <64329.1342378317@tristatelogic.com> <20120715214823.679eb23d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120715162333.45b82082@scorpio> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:15:31 +0200 (CEST) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 06:15:36 -0000 On Sun, 15 Jul 2012, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Wojciech Puchar < > wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > >> totally in error. SpinRite will attempt to read a damage sector up to >>> 2000 times and through different algorithms determine what is most >>> >> >> man dd >> > > Even better, > > recoverdisk /dev/da0 /dev/da1 true :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 07:22:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B49106566B for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 07:22:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp2.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1945B8FC1A for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 07:22:19 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=yam8O5Nh26Lfc7F7uffmcq80dpsXWA13vmrtqirtrfE= c=1 sm=0 a=GD-PhpMXrSgA:10 a=DvSzqBOGy98A:10 a=WCF7V-pGL4BgkkObxHgA:9 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller6727@bellsouth.net; sender-id=neutral Received-SPF: softfail (smtp01.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:24432] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 4C/78-28589-880C3005; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 03:19:37 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 03:19:36 -0400 Message-ID: <4C.78.28589.880C3005@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Questions on ndis for USB wireless adapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 07:22:20 -0000 I am having problems getting the Hiro USB wireless adapter to work and think I might possibly be missing something. Chip is Realtek RTL8191S. I read the man pages for ndisgen and ndiscvt and the FreeBSD Handbook online. Do I need options NDISAPI # and device ndis in the kernel config, even if I use modules resulting from ndiscvt or ndisgen? I suppose these wouldn't hurt, I just put them in the kernel configs for i386 and amd64, awaiting next system rebuild for FreeBSD 9.1-BETA1 or PRERELEASE. Also, I notice, in addition to the .inf and .sys files, there is a .cat file in the MS-Windows drivers: net8192su.cat net8192su.inf rtl8192su.sys What is the .cat file, is it a firmware driver? Drivers are included for MS-Windows 2000, XP, Vista and 7; all but Win 2000 include 32-bit and 64-bit. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 10:18:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44501106564A for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F188FC0C for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:18:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 27658373 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:18:36 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6GAIaLp056562 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:18:36 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q6GAIZwJ056561 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:18:35 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:18:35 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120716101835.GA56464@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: alias_pptp.ko X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:18:39 -0000 Colleagues, Several PPTP sessions do not work through "ipfw nat" without loading the alias_pptp.ko module. How can I compile this functionality (NAT for PPTP sessions) into the kernel? The following confuguration: options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_NAT options LIBALIAS is not sufficient, one still has to load alias_pptp.ko as a module. I could not find the relevant option in the NOTES. Thank you very much for any input. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 11:02:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296391065674 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72AD28FC08 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:02:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 27658002 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:02:10 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6GA2A8I056252 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:02:10 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q6GA2A03056251 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:02:10 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:02:10 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120716100210.GA32860@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: enable modeline in vim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:02:20 -0000 Colleagues, Do you know how to enable modelines in vim running from root? Even if I put "set modeline" in /root/.vimrc, the output of ":set modeline?" still shows "nomodeline". At the same time, "set modeline" in ~/.vimrc works for all other accounts except root. Someone has protected the root account so tightly that I cannot even shoot myself in the leg. Do you know how I could override this protection? -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 11:09:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E699106567F for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:09:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corebug@corebug.net) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15DA38FC22 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:09:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl8 with SMTP id l8so5598099yen.13 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 04:09:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=JyWCvpZcIctgE8j4pPwgnGrckQ+9ZOGPK3AfyjZWfCQ=; b=Y1zbZyu+sCPm7XIjS4H8rcq/mbQx0BJ50FP9su4I+tdnhQDa0SFA4FVhyVV7Ofimhj SElrQ8JEGghJqYK2XzHXHQgV9ijGB5EDUf37bM3UU/5s29RbP5tt61nvWIffFZefMZx9 XTLYORYWOpukH7ZdxhYv4KO1AILlZU9gKm4O1Um7tsLVr85VzWQG4FBaXy9YtugfAjnE z7+dT+d5NIiGTrQRXyxkuer0qLQayVPvGBfLOi5b+nJPCPJtua5Du1rNEOD/xszJofmn oQUz7lhFp1EBcuh5+eVUv6XYW7Mifm2UTL+iWKSpbdtoZFhqfXMd0i8bFY2MNRj4+iIG eJrA== Received: by 10.68.190.40 with SMTP id gn8mr26357234pbc.118.1342436973019; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 04:09:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.255.70 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 04:09:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [95.158.3.122] In-Reply-To: <20120716100210.GA32860@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20120716100210.GA32860@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> From: =?UTF-8?B?0JLQuNGC0LDQu9C40Lkg0KLRg9GA0L7QstC10YY=?= Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:09:12 +0300 Message-ID: To: Victor Sudakov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnNBurwz/fIsXWUBP4FLjgJh19H6WbOgx7sOIJg9Nm92ZUJ/bfxXacJ/F0RcI+vNxd6PZCm Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: enable modeline in vim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:09:34 -0000 2012/7/16 Victor Sudakov : > Colleagues, > > Do you know how to enable modelines in vim running from root? Even if > I put "set modeline" in /root/.vimrc, the output of ":set modeline?" > still shows "nomodeline". At the same time, "set modeline" in ~/.vimrc > works for all other accounts except root. > > Someone has protected the root account so tightly that I cannot even > shoot myself in the leg. Do you know how I could override this > protection? > > -- > Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN > sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" In my vimrc i have next: set modeline set modelines=3 And it works, no matter from root or normal user. Hope this helps. -- ~~~ WBR, Vitaliy Turovets Systems Administrator Corebug.Net +38(093)265-70-55 VITU-RIPE X-NCC-RegID: ua.tv From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 14:03:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10EC91065670 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:03:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4D08FC18 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q6GE4VrC001138 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:04:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:04:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:03:22 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 15 16:31:45 2012 > Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:29:39 +0200 (CEST) > From: Wojciech Puchar > To: FreeBSD > Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? > > > totally in error. SpinRite will attempt to read a damage sector up to > > 2000 times and through different algorithms determine what is most > > man dd > > conv=sync,noerror This is *precisely* why dd is _grossly_inferior_ to professional-grade tools like Spinrite. With the settings the resident "infallible expert on everything" <*SNORT*> recommends, dd will make _one_ attempt to read each disk sector, going through the O/S's device driver code, and write out 'whatever it got', regardless of whether or not ane sort of read-error was signalled. This results in GUARANNTEED, *UNRECOVERABLE*, GARBAGE in the copy, _every_ place where a read error was encountered. This result can be marginally acceptable -- for 'first-cut' attempts at accessing 'easily recoverable' data on the disk. 'dd' is purely 'amateurville', however, when it comes to recovering =critical= data inside an 'unreadable' (by the O/S) disk block. Spinrite, and other professional-grade tools, run absolutely stand-alone, without the use of _any_ O/S drivers, or even BIOS code. Spinrite _directly_ programs the hard-disk-controller chip, can retrieve into memory _every_ bit -- including address-marks, sector framing, recorded ECC bits, and so on -- on a track, for analysis, can seek from an inner track, read the bits, then seek from an _outer_ track, and do another read. It can also do things like step the heads 'fractionally' off the track center, and read _there_. By doing these kinds of *very*low*level* operations, that are forbidden to any 'userland' task, by an O/S, tools like Spinrite can do a FAR BETTER job of extracting data from damaged disks. Professional-grade tools can also do things like 'pre-initialize' the I/O buffer _in_the_disk_itself_, with _different_ bit patterns on multiple read passes, They can thus find bitstrings that are (a) the 'prior data' in th buffer, (b) bits that are read consistently from the disk, and (c) bits that 'change value' from one read attempt to the next. This allows such tools to do a much better job of RECONSTRUCTING the actual data in the 'error' sector(s). "Make a copy, and work only on the copy" _is_ good advice for attempting 'simple' data recovery with tools that run in 'userland', under an O/S. When the 'simple' approach fails, or is insufficient, it is time to bring out the "big guns" -- things like Spinrite -- which -require- direct accesss to the original damaged disk. Since Spinrite, and similar tools, operate READ-ONLY on the disk -- which is *not* guaranteed if there is a general-purpose O/S in the wa -- it _is_ generally safe to let them access the damaged original. The problematic situation is where spinning up the drive causes -more- damage to the media.. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 14:49:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966FD106564A for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5628FC15 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:49:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhfs35 with SMTP id s35so6082276yhf.13 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 07:49:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:organization:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=U5+A7r7wJkWexGSkCyEIpygw9Sm4N3KUmoSujQdy6SU=; b=isWcdkr48q2VkPXL61Mfnbm1vSE7Jbz/+8nRzDsv4y287DT1/gql71YIuTDVvTD9NU V2y9SqfVxL181KoF9+QmqqCypRWfzm0n1F1JKiVKj21tW9k1YAf5TlJjw3wn4FtwBsIp 9rTQWJCIarFBj5onVLKgY5SzKsSkkzd2TZkodlMug0JLWXUvENw7pnO93TEliYiTgE8o QIr8EF3sCYm2sqD9JWBB0l20l3Z31eWqd9gvFVu+qT/JTcTIvoGxWvffinLggaEi0qLS XPv4WdnQznMuIYg3qUpe39lNy8ZfpOR3LwEu6RzR3RVmhj3FPefQV6ehqDwl6N6rY/HQ zpxg== Received: by 10.236.108.234 with SMTP id q70mr9741370yhg.4.1342450191847; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 07:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi ([177.98.49.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v9sm14256309anj.14.2012.07.16.07.49.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 16 Jul 2012 07:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:50:28 -0300 From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120716115028.263caf26@papi> Organization: BSD X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlX/6jTtK2B+/TkU7EePu2giDNi3T5GAM65zK0CFVxS43HPPMdtNiMdiGdpC/KLgu/l3yTU Subject: OT - Squid external connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:49:52 -0000 Hi; Would anybody know how can I cross-reference squid/Lusca external connections with LAN hosts? For example, if I see an http connection on ext_if, is there a way to find out on behalf of which LAN host squid is making that connection? Using FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE, pf and Lusca latest port. I tried to search for a hint but this is really tricky to Google for. Please forgive me the OT but this list has always been a good first step for the right directions. Thanks, -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a7sm25779647yhm.0.2012.07.16.08.50.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3WbTbf5kRyz2CG62 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:50:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:50:22 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120716115022.68940af1@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnV+LcJnhxV2MReNEONTu+ikiIs9xsjGKkufV6fgV3L+5ewsGCgOIJv8LbU2Jgifl/9H/Mc Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:50:32 -0000 On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:04:31 -0500 (CDT) Robert Bonomi articulated: > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 15 16:31:45 2012 > > Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:29:39 +0200 (CEST) > > From: Wojciech Puchar > > To: FreeBSD > > Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? > > > > > totally in error. SpinRite will attempt to read a damage sector > > > up to 2000 times and through different algorithms determine what > > > is most > > > > man dd > > > > conv=sync,noerror > > This is *precisely* why dd is _grossly_inferior_ to > professional-grade tools like Spinrite. > > With the settings the resident "infallible expert on everything" > <*SNORT*> recommends, dd will make _one_ attempt to read each disk > sector, going through the O/S's device driver code, and write out > 'whatever it got', regardless of whether or not ane sort of > read-error was signalled. This results in GUARANNTEED, > *UNRECOVERABLE*, GARBAGE in the copy, _every_ place where a read > error was encountered. This result can be marginally acceptable -- > for 'first-cut' attempts at accessing 'easily recoverable' data on > the disk. > > 'dd' is purely 'amateurville', however, when it comes to recovering > =critical= data inside an 'unreadable' (by the O/S) disk block. > > > Spinrite, and other professional-grade tools, run absolutely > stand-alone, without the use of _any_ O/S drivers, or even BIOS > code. Spinrite _directly_ programs the hard-disk-controller chip, > can retrieve into memory _every_ bit -- including address-marks, > sector framing, recorded ECC bits, and so on -- on a track, for > analysis, can seek from an inner track, read the bits, then seek from > an _outer_ track, and do another read. It can also do things like > step the heads 'fractionally' off the track center, and read > _there_. By doing these kinds of *very*low*level* operations, that > are forbidden to any 'userland' task, by an O/S, tools like Spinrite > can do a FAR BETTER job of extracting data from damaged disks. > > Professional-grade tools can also do things like 'pre-initialize' the > I/O buffer _in_the_disk_itself_, with _different_ bit patterns on > multiple read passes, They can thus find bitstrings that are (a) the > 'prior data' in th buffer, (b) bits that are read consistently from > the disk, and (c) bits that 'change value' from one read attempt to > the next. This allows such tools to do a much better job of > RECONSTRUCTING the actual data in the 'error' sector(s). > > > "Make a copy, and work only on the copy" _is_ good advice for > attempting 'simple' data recovery with tools that run in 'userland', > under an O/S. When the 'simple' approach fails, or is insufficient, > it is time to bring out the "big guns" -- things like Spinrite -- > which -require- direct accesss to the original damaged disk. Since > Spinrite, and similar tools, operate READ-ONLY on the disk -- which > is *not* guaranteed if there is a general-purpose O/S in the wa -- it > _is_ generally safe to let them access the damaged original. The > problematic situation is where spinning up the drive causes -more- > damage to the media.. +1 I use to keep SpinRite on a flash drive that I could easily carry with me if needed. Of course that would require the machine to be worked on to have the ability to boot from a flash drive. Unfortunately, not all of them could. Fortunately, I almost never need an industrial strength recovery product like SpinRite. It is nice to know it is available if I do though. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 16:37:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9033F106566C for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:37:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59F18FC18 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:37:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 27664941 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:37:01 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6GGb1wl065314 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:37:01 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q6GGb0tl065312 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:37:00 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:37:00 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120716163700.GA60274@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20120716100210.GA32860@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: enable modeline in vim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:37:04 -0000 ÷ÉÔÁÌÉÊ ôÕÒÏ×Åà wrote: > > > > Do you know how to enable modelines in vim running from root? Even if > > I put "set modeline" in /root/.vimrc, the output of ":set modeline?" > > still shows "nomodeline". At the same time, "set modeline" in ~/.vimrc > > works for all other accounts except root. > > > > Someone has protected the root account so tightly that I cannot even > > shoot myself in the leg. Do you know how I could override this > > protection? > > > In my vimrc i have next: > set modeline > set modelines=3 > As I said, in /root/.vimrc I have: set modeline set modelines=5 > And it works, no matter from root or normal user. Hope this helps. And it does not work for root. vim-7.3.556_1 Surely I am doing something stupid but I cannot figure out what. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 17:03:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DD9106564A for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37878FC0A for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so11163822pbb.13 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:03:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=VIvK1H3xeAsk05Aogzd0trngtrOgt93zqGEBvXI2yYw=; b=Ppp1iO8J4kIrvzZ40+IM8EsCjIAaPR0hAW6SZ4RwKxDMuyfyO9zyn0k6DHjajWVFPf WwobyqrZalS2cwSios6yLVwvwBfjOyoT3jdklG/CLWtkTPlK7s7k+9GoWESJoHkDt/ZP nixSdDHj8GHXMWRPW4n0NHfas4I8EXywF7aWdFm/MYBODIQFOJhjcJnRy85p8VRgTWqL ZlqRyqLX/mHK7d4fAnw1285FyL1gAxbBAwn9NjZT3DXrcgN6rJT+nm5WdvLvkJ8Z1hii LOIqB7ZX1xwIxtO2vCxphoYykvf8L7/ORSjt5PTrpU8aKCBRcYLMHgR4iaz3KWRSSMsD KA2Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.201.195 with SMTP id kc3mr28743318pbc.33.1342458217446; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.227.132 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:03:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120716115022.68940af1@scorpio> References: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120716115022.68940af1@scorpio> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:03:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:03:37 -0000 On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Jerry wrote: > > > > > This is *precisely* why dd is _grossly_inferior_ to > > professional-grade tools like Spinrite. > > > > With the settings the resident "infallible expert on everything" > > <*SNORT*> recommends, dd will make _one_ attempt to read each disk > > sector, going through the O/S's device driver code, and write out > > 'whatever it got', regardless of whether or not ane sort of > > read-error was signalled. This results in GUARANNTEED, > > *UNRECOVERABLE*, GARBAGE in the copy, _every_ place where a read > > error was encountered. This result can be marginally acceptable -- > > for 'first-cut' attempts at accessing 'easily recoverable' data on > > the disk. > > > > 'dd' is purely 'amateurville', however, when it comes to recovering > > =critical= data inside an 'unreadable' (by the O/S) disk block. > > > > > > Spinrite, and other professional-grade tools, run absolutely > > stand-alone, without the use of _any_ O/S drivers, or even BIOS > > code. Spinrite _directly_ programs the hard-disk-controller chip, > > can retrieve into memory _every_ bit -- including address-marks, > > sector framing, recorded ECC bits, and so on -- on a track, for > > analysis, can seek from an inner track, read the bits, then seek from > > an _outer_ track, and do another read. It can also do things like > > step the heads 'fractionally' off the track center, and read > > _there_. By doing these kinds of *very*low*level* operations, that > > are forbidden to any 'userland' task, by an O/S, tools like Spinrite > > can do a FAR BETTER job of extracting data from damaged disks. > > > > Professional-grade tools can also do things like 'pre-initialize' the > > I/O buffer _in_the_disk_itself_, with _different_ bit patterns on > > multiple read passes, They can thus find bitstrings that are (a) the > > 'prior data' in th buffer, (b) bits that are read consistently from > > the disk, and (c) bits that 'change value' from one read attempt to > > the next. This allows such tools to do a much better job of > > RECONSTRUCTING the actual data in the 'error' sector(s). > > > > > > "Make a copy, and work only on the copy" _is_ good advice for > > attempting 'simple' data recovery with tools that run in 'userland', > > under an O/S. When the 'simple' approach fails, or is insufficient, > > it is time to bring out the "big guns" -- things like Spinrite -- > > which -require- direct accesss to the original damaged disk. Since > > Spinrite, and similar tools, operate READ-ONLY on the disk -- which > > is *not* guaranteed if there is a general-purpose O/S in the wa -- it > > _is_ generally safe to let them access the damaged original. The > > problematic situation is where spinning up the drive causes -more- > > damage to the media.. > > +1 > > I use to keep SpinRite on a flash drive that I could easily carry with > me if needed. Of course that would require the machine to be worked on > to have the ability to boot from a flash drive. Unfortunately, not all > of them could. Fortunately, I almost never need an industrial strength > recovery product like SpinRite. It is nice to know it is available if I > do though. SpinWrong is a scam, Gibson is a fraud, and this conversation is pure marketing gibberish. I thought most had overcome this credulity years ago. It appears I was mistaken. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 17:10:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A033106564A for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:10:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2647D8FC0C for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:10:42 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=3+HCfWSoPIMxBqKmOXpjfdZVsVl1G1OxTGU2OURpnyQ=; b=gTRiCKuo3I6+AGmWBAShvff8VCkinA+Yc70OLoc0+7vw4avRohTQAoBCFyXUylHBvSmXZXeQIcZ+1qGMX6zebxgu8E4Mqmc1pfcj3v3HKTx6OvGyHacBNuTZ6i//Vi1B; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Sqooj-000H0Y-7h for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:10:41 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1342458635-94480-94479/5/124; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:10:35 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:10:34 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:10:42 -0000 On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:04:31 -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote: > This is *precisely* why dd is _grossly_inferior_ to professional-grade > tools like Spinrite. I bet you are a big fan of homeopathic treatments too, aren't you? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 17:20:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31665106564A for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:20:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Dave.Robison@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB548FC0C for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:20:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.16]) by ltcfislmsgpa01.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6GHFowq024308 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:20:50 -0500 Received: from lefty.vicor.com (10.14.152.6) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.309.2; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:20:26 -0500 Message-ID: <50044D56.5080803@fisglobal.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:20:22 -0700 From: "Robison, Dave" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120209 Thunderbird/10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.6] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855, 1.0.260, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-07-16_03:2012-07-16, 2012-07-16, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: david.robison@fisglobal.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:20:53 -0000 On 07/16/2012 10:10, Mark Felder wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:04:31 -0500, Robert Bonomi > wrote: > >> This is *precisely* why dd is _grossly_inferior_ to professional-grade >> tools like Spinrite. > > I bet you are a big fan of homeopathic treatments too, aren't you? > _______________________________________________ > Nice ad hominem there. Very impressive. Perhaps we can sink a bit lower by making some random comments about people's mothers while we're at it. I've used Spinrite a few times with good results. It does take forever at times. I've also used the dd trick with good results. -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) daver@vicor.com david.robison@fisglobal.com _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 18:59:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0C9106564A for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 18:59:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A506C8FC08 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 18:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SqqWL-0003uH-M7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:59:49 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SqqWL-0006jj-IK for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:59:49 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6GIxnx9043606 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:59:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q6GIxndf043605 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:59:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:59:49 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120716185948.GA43227@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: how to preserve local modifications to /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 18:59:51 -0000 I was getting Tex capacity exceeded, sorry [main memory size 1000000] error, so had to increase main_memory in /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf main_memory = 7000000 % words of inimemory available; also applies to inimf&mp This works fine, but this file will be overwritten if I update/reinstall print/teTeX-base. I was trying to make a local copy instead: TZAV> cat $HOME/.texmf-var/web2c/texmf.cnf % refer to /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf, % installed by teTeX-base-3.0_23: print/teTeX-base % for details main_memory = 7000000 % words of inimemory available; also applies to inimf&mp TZAV> but this doesn't help. Please advise -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 19:10:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB026106566B for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8519A8FC15 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:10:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sqqgb-00083Z-5l for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 21:10:25 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 21:10:25 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 21:10:25 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:10:13 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 15 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: LibreOffice with Java? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:10:31 -0000 I note that in the Makefile for libreoffice (/usr/ports/editors/libreoffice/Makefile) it says: "LibreOffice works only with Java 6" But I have Java 7. Is this a problem? $ java -version openjdk version "1.7.0_04" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_04-b22) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.0-b21, mixed mode) $ LibreOffice seems to install (from the port) and run OK. This is 9.0-RELEASE on amd64. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 19:25:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3F81065674 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:25:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9802E8FC08 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so11354163pbb.13 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:25:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; bh=MNWUJq6ZQpmbDqGjRaOgS6XR0BbGHg+F5YubkYXqbs8=; b=mWyr40pqyHdTPh0sWFRxyy/YEdE6CMKhld6x6em6BceK3zNKj3c4o9IsHmaN9xyLTG pa464gOWu51BY1+Ew28bPWr1XiypLiZv+Ds6xUq38wh0biTq9kFt8GvXlu3BKl7yUzS2 uGVulfHMXxh3PFdXwvZl9gWSY259b1BZgjHF8+wxdIMifoUgzAuYH6+bcaKiNjtJ9rKr 5UayTnMHmf4sjiyPf0bjBxX1YxEalHq+ckewS3i0AHL8tzg9GmMHWOQ9zhPmQCERl6rn SDGq7rtpSc2J8sfWSLxqqMUyDIw/hWVxAjWFNpoTRBDRoPBPjfKCggbRNEMuIFeSH6+t /yZg== Received: by 10.68.231.39 with SMTP id td7mr29611975pbc.3.1342466744188; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:25:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.78] ([96.53.33.22]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ms9sm9638190pbb.43.2012.07.16.12.25.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:25:42 -0700 From: Patrick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <91F2F4DCF7B24892B865B0A42FEFEBFB@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20120716163700.GA60274@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20120716100210.GA32860@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120716163700.GA60274@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> X-Mailer: sparrow 1.6.2 (build 1143.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: enable modeline in vim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:25:44 -0000 Assuming you've installed vim from the ports tree, /usr/local/share/vim/v= imrc is the shared vimrc file amongst all users. Have you tried setting i= t in there=3F =20 On Monday, 16 July, 2012 at 09:37 , Victor Sudakov wrote: > =D0=92=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B9 =D0=A2=D1=83=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2= =D0=B5=D1=86 wrote: > > > =20 > > > Do you know how to enable modelines in vim running from root=3F Eve= n if > > > I put =22set modeline=22 in /root/.vimrc, the output of =22:set mod= eline=3F=22 > > > still shows =22nomodeline=22. At the same time, =22set modeline=22 = in =7E/.vimrc > > > works for all other accounts except root. > > > =20 > > > Someone has protected the root account so tightly that I cannot eve= n > > > shoot myself in the leg. Do you know how I could override this > > > protection=3F > > > =20 > > =20 > > In my vimrc i have next: > > set modeline > > set modelines=3D3 > > =20 > =20 > =20 > As I said, in /root/.vimrc I have: > =20 > set modeline > set modelines=3D5 > =20 > > And it works, no matter from root or normal user. Hope this helps. > =20 > And it does not work for root. vim-7.3.556=5F1 > =20 > Surely I am doing something stupid but I cannot figure out what. > =20 > -- =20 > Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN > sip:sudakov=40sibptus.tomsk.ru (mailto:sudakov=40sibptus.tomsk.ru) > =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F > freebsd-questions=40freebsd.org (mailto:freebsd-questions=40freebsd.org= ) mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to =22freebsd-questions-unsubscribe=40fre= ebsd.org (mailto:freebsd-questions-unsubscribe=40freebsd.org)=22 > =20 > =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 03:03:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D16106566C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:03:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4FF8FC16 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:03:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 27668701 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 10:03:40 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6H33eaE074218 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 10:03:40 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q6H33djl074217 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 10:03:39 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 10:03:39 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120717030339.GA74052@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20120716100210.GA32860@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120716163700.GA60274@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <91F2F4DCF7B24892B865B0A42FEFEBFB@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <91F2F4DCF7B24892B865B0A42FEFEBFB@gmail.com> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: enable modeline in vim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:03:43 -0000 Patrick wrote: > > > > > > > > Do you know how to enable modelines in vim running from root? Even if > > > > I put "set modeline" in /root/.vimrc, the output of ":set modeline?" > > > > still shows "nomodeline". At the same time, "set modeline" in ~/.vimrc > > > > works for all other accounts except root. > > > > > > > > Someone has protected the root account so tightly that I cannot even > > > > shoot myself in the leg. Do you know how I could override this > > > > protection? > > > > > > > > > > In my vimrc i have next: > > > set modeline > > > set modelines=3 > > > > > > > > > As I said, in /root/.vimrc I have: > > > > set modeline > > set modelines=5 > > > > > And it works, no matter from root or normal user. Hope this helps. > > > > And it does not work for root. vim-7.3.556_1 > > > > Surely I am doing something stupid but I cannot figure out what. > Assuming you've installed vim from the ports tree, > /usr/local/share/vim/vimrc is the shared vimrc file amongst all > users. Have you tried setting it in there? I have finally found the cause of the trouble. There was a "set nocompatible" command in ~/.vimrc after the "set modeline" command. According to the documentation, the "compatible" option modifies many other options, including the "modeline" options. The solution is to put the "set nocompatible" command at the very start of the ~/.vimrc file (as the documentation recommends) or to remove it altogether. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 03:32:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778271065672 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:32:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16DC58FC0A for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:32:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q6H3Y5fr019116 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:34:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:34:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201207170334.q6H3Y5fr019116@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:32:48 -0000 ` > Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:03:37 -0500 > From: Adam Vande More > Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? > > > SpinWrong is a scam, Gibson is a fraud, and this conversation is pure > marketing gibberish. I thought most had overcome this credulity years ago. > It appears I was mistaken. "Everyone has the inalienable right to be wrong." Far be it from me to attempt to impair your exercise of your rights.` From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 03:40:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349E91065672 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8EC78FC1E for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:40:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q6H3fIvM019246 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:41:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:41:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201207170341.q6H3fIvM019246@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:40:01 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 16 12:12:47 2012 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:10:34 -0500 > From: Mark Felder > Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? > > On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:04:31 -0500, Robert Bonomi > wrote: > > > This is *precisely* why dd is _grossly_inferior_ to professional-grade > > tools like Spinrite. > > I bet you are a big fan of homeopathic treatments too, aren't you? Homepoathic treatments are extremely effective. ... at demonstrating the placebo effect. *GRIN* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 03:43:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592E4106566C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:43:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16D08FC0A for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:43:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q6H3cRkJ086616; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:38:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:38:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Adam Vande More In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120716115022.68940af1@scorpio> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:43:10 -0000 On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Adam Vande More wrote: > SpinWrong is a scam, Gibson is a fraud, and this conversation is pure > marketing gibberish. I thought most had overcome this credulity years > ago. It appears I was mistaken. Care to elaborate? Most people on this list seem to speak highly of SpinRite. I'd be interested to know if they are all deluded, because I've been thinking of buying it. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 05:43:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB1F106566B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 05:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2758FC08 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 05:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6H5hkCh009440; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:43:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6H5hkUF009437; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:43:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:43:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Adam Vande More In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120716115022.68940af1@scorpio> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:43:47 +0200 (CEST) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 05:43:58 -0000 > SpinWrong is a scam, Gibson is a fraud, and this conversation is pure > marketing gibberish. maybe you exaggerate but this is what i feel in that discussion. instead of help - seemed like marketing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 07:59:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A991065674 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:59:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalle.moller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E058FC1E for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:59:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3so288728obb.13 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 00:59:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hqU26GBe6CbJkPhOUi0VXG5VyoIZ4o83k+NoVoyd4Vc=; b=zHtF6iCRsWiFFIdV/ZqLlTB2s0hAP7zZFZ6i+0O5mJRSnsz7ulJog9NJcuy6YRJvFn eCb5e1mb1Y+ptR+TqwL6XepmHy5wAx3fYpT3AlfgXzZPjV30a5pr/p+eZ2NwwTcYanFY z3R1fIvKX7X5s6ixa2ZbYZxhnQZgZtJTb22IVxD0IQj4WFCG/PWRez0Qo7XdOop78eK/ 6wyF4rAKqmWT0mBrwcIEAvyiOZ37TAOu56pi//rtgDLZE1WMCi6BcxDt3J2GdueQeIm+ cmxYL6/em3JgN4aKq9sVQmGECk5blQ0+igAauIgGH2Xvhbewej31AMQbsgdPyyWIpw5/ wo9w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.89.102 with SMTP id bn6mr2033726obb.7.1342511970596; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 00:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Sender: kalle.moller@gmail.com Received: by 10.60.142.67 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 00:59:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87fw8yariq.wl%h.skuhra@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:59:30 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: grHJP7hL1eaiF5tjK22fPOSCmfw Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Kalle_M=C3=B8ller?= To: "Herbert J. Skuhra" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jails on FreeBSD 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:59:31 -0000 On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Herbert J. Skuhra wro= te: > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:56 AM, joris dedieu w= rote: >> 2012/7/12 Herbert J. Skuhra : >>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> although I've followed the instructions in jail(8) and jail.conf(5) I >>>> cannot manage to setup jails on FreeBSD 9.0 STABLE (r238334). >>>> >>>> The symptons: >>>> >>>> * ssh'ing to jail works, but it takes about 20 seconds until password >>>> prompt appears >> >> Does it still the same with UseDNS=3Dno in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ? > > No, I can login instantly. > >>>> * netstat -r in the jail takes about 150 seconds to finish >> >> Does netstat -rn does the same ? > > No, the output appears immediately. > >>>> * connections to the internet time out; with tcpdump I see that >>>> packets leave and enter the public interface on the host, but never >>>> reach the jail >>>> >>>> I use lo1 interface and ip address 192.168.1.1/24 for the jail. Public >>>> interface is fxp0 with both an IPv4 and an IPv6 address assigned. >>>> Of course, nat is enable via pf on the public interface. >> >> Can you post your PF configuration ? >>> >>> After switching to ipfw/natd networking in the jail works. >>> Could this be a bug? >> >> I think you had an issue with firewall that block name resolution and >> makes everything goes slow. At least you need one single line on your >> pf.conf : >> >> nat on $public_interface form $jail_ip to any -> ($public_interface) > > Even when loading only the nat rule it doesn't work: > > nat on fxp0 from 192.168.1.0/24 to any -> $ext_addr > > Thanks. > Herbert > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-jail@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" As Mark Felder wrote You don't have anything in /etc/resolv.conf, in the jail do you? :-) --=20 Med Venlig Hilsen Kalle R. M=C3=B8ller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 09:16:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2337D1065670 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:16:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corebug@corebug.net) Received: from mail-gg0-f182.google.com (mail-gg0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21318FC16 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:16:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnm2 with SMTP id m2so182269ggn.13 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:16:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Ut/tbINf2YXdXwsXZbg1zJybb6Trofr+wGUpnCn0wUM=; b=FnPxSoNywfdhaJbm7UTpTpR8xFjr0mc6CBiPCuzFygWz1fvAEXROATVwRd98A3N0i1 rHG6I9X1eNIKXt86vDs9MPKJjk5S9rvSWomR/zRNN5K1WZuvFZ3tHqFOQbA7q/RMd34B dZWNbSwHk8xc+Ad2BRkstgth/thguz+7MM4B4VPjBpBNVSv9SYsP/LnRTVwzk38Drkci m5NQzl9snWZS0DHOMfdMce0s4o55tfNWcQqnWqbhaXavhPZAW4HXDp0ouWNJLYDOcDjQ Y4CMAun1WOK6REIWbMTd4IBO+R/6mYDH1mASijiw5Mnz7ASCPijhFoAppgTUWAp4CBIE 3yHQ== Received: by 10.68.194.6 with SMTP id hs6mr4735031pbc.133.1342516593270; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:16:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.255.70 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:16:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [95.158.3.122] From: =?UTF-8?B?0JLQuNGC0LDQu9C40Lkg0KLRg9GA0L7QstC10YY=?= Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:16:12 +0300 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Questions List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnBXiJgyiHVEjZCwIkUS9Gbei9CTAlDnjRP6ozwwjpQsdBQEZx308iSy6Gza3zqsPm+Nfop Subject: How to donate code X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:16:35 -0000 Hello, colleagues! How would one propose some code to current branch? I've made a little change to ifconfig ( a switch to display IPv4 network masks in CIDR format instead of HEX) and want to suggest this change to FreeBSD project. Also i've created a PR with my patch describing what is done and for what (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=169072&cat=), but maybe there's some other way to somehow push this code for review by FreeBSD developers? Thank you a lot and sorry for noobish question :) -- ~~~ WBR, Vitaliy Turovets Systems Administrator Corebug.Net +38(093)265-70-55 VITU-RIPE X-NCC-RegID: ua.tv From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 09:36:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80FE106566C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:36:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130C08FC12 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:36:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6H9a7bL027942; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:36:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6H9a76G027939; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:36:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:36:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Chris Hill In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120716115022.68940af1@scorpio> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:36:08 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Adam Vande More , FreeBSD Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:36:10 -0000 >> It appears I was mistaken. > > Care to elaborate? Most people on this list seem to speak highly of SpinRite. first - it is off topic. second - because all commercial software like that are designed for uneducated user, mostly try to automatically do everything. Which is a danger not help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 09:42:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8B4106564A for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:42:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [94.23.254.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA0D8FC12 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:42:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (mr129166.cri.univ-rennes1.fr [129.20.129.166]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id CDCC3FAA2CCB; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:42:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mr129166 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DE7151AC; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:42:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:42:30 +0200 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=92=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B9_=D0=A2=D1=83?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=86?= Message-ID: <20120717114230.5dec617f@mr129166> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: How to donate code X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:42:39 -0000 Le Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:16:12 +0300, Виталий Туровец a écrit : Hello, > Hello, colleagues! > How would one propose some code to current branch? > I've made a little change to ifconfig ( a switch to display IPv4 > network masks in CIDR format instead of HEX) and want to suggest this > change to FreeBSD project. > Also i've created a PR with my patch describing what is done and for > what (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=169072&cat=), but > maybe there's some other way to somehow push this code for review by > FreeBSD developers? You may post to freebsd-current@ or freebsd-hacker@ mailing lists. A PR is always a good thing for the record. Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 09:46:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B741065673 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:46:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.skuhra@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4328FC12 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhfs35 with SMTP id s35so206098yhf.13 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:46:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fJa0z6SS+5nQ2Uk8XyRCCfdV8C7iPPyceRieDOPrC/M=; b=ZMR+uvtW4LzcJdCuld4IOY8BbNrbD4BKChCibS3JTh5W+xbgaoVaJxN1v3iJ7wXQlO rxFkMyW/Lt1sB7qo3HbO5Sa85z7bqtBvIbr3WcxwaP1+Izx0D0ZsNvGsJ2fXQNVI5yv5 MKDt9WKqKcw1P4nWgIX7eBSy4M6pxemx849t+Ec1b+zcWyC1tdzH+RKg8GTfV/Q5TDg1 D6zUhsXk6yeH+8Hfb5koCO+TORgRV71JQeUaWKKYdaiSRnZBLrJ2SmcwoOfMyNeJ56/l u0OOA3xbXjDa0X5oWTx1LyBrp4AjOCayZxY260zEMWZZ8XuTWhR/wdfrd35CR0V7Ilqc oaxw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.73.40 with SMTP id i8mr4234178pav.2.1342518395003; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.239.67 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:46:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87fw8yariq.wl%h.skuhra@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:46:34 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Jails on FreeBSD 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:46:36 -0000 On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Kalle M=C3=B8ller wrote: > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Herbert J. Skuhra w= rote: >> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:56 AM, joris dedieu = wrote: >>> 2012/7/12 Herbert J. Skuhra : >>>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> although I've followed the instructions in jail(8) and jail.conf(5) I >>>>> cannot manage to setup jails on FreeBSD 9.0 STABLE (r238334). >>>>> >>>>> The symptons: >>>>> >>>>> * ssh'ing to jail works, but it takes about 20 seconds until password >>>>> prompt appears >>> >>> Does it still the same with UseDNS=3Dno in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ? >> >> No, I can login instantly. >> >>>>> * netstat -r in the jail takes about 150 seconds to finish >>> >>> Does netstat -rn does the same ? >> >> No, the output appears immediately. >> >>>>> * connections to the internet time out; with tcpdump I see that >>>>> packets leave and enter the public interface on the host, but never >>>>> reach the jail >>>>> >>>>> I use lo1 interface and ip address 192.168.1.1/24 for the jail. Publi= c >>>>> interface is fxp0 with both an IPv4 and an IPv6 address assigned. >>>>> Of course, nat is enable via pf on the public interface. >>> >>> Can you post your PF configuration ? >>>> >>>> After switching to ipfw/natd networking in the jail works. >>>> Could this be a bug? >>> >>> I think you had an issue with firewall that block name resolution and >>> makes everything goes slow. At least you need one single line on your >>> pf.conf : >>> >>> nat on $public_interface form $jail_ip to any -> ($public_interface) >> >> Even when loading only the nat rule it doesn't work: >> >> nat on fxp0 from 192.168.1.0/24 to any -> $ext_addr >> >> Thanks. >> Herbert > > > As Mark Felder wrote > > You don't have anything in /etc/resolv.conf, in the jail do you? :-) I have two nameservers listed! If I boot a kernel with ipfirewall/ipdivert and run natd the network in the jail works! With pf: I see the packets going out/coming in on fxp0 but somehow the jail does not "see" them. A 'dig www.google.com' in the jail fails with "connection timed out; no servers could be reached", but 11:39:45.666630 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.64452 > google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain: 10794+ A? www.google.com. (32) 11:39:45.694045 IP google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain > xxx.yyy.zzz.64452: 10794 6/0/0 CNAME www.l.google.com., A 173.194.35.177, A 173.194.35.176, A 173.194.35.179, A 173.194.35.180, A 173.194.35.178 (132) 11:39:50.667799 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.64452 > google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain: 10794+ A? www.google.com. (32) 11:39:50.687083 IP google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain > xxx.yyy.zzz.64452: 10794 6/0/0 CNAME www.l.google.com., A 173.194.35.177, A 173.194.35.178, A 173.194.35.179, A 173.194.35.180, A 173.194.35.176 (132) 11:39:55.668783 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.64452 > google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain: 10794+ A? www.google.com. (32) 11:39:55.675917 IP google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain > xxx.yyy.zzz.64452: 10794 6/0/0 CNAME www.l.google.com., A 173.194.35.180, A 173.194.35.177, A 173.194.35.179, A 173.194.35.176, A 173.194.35.178 (132) And 'nc 173.194.35.177 80': 11:41:52.176904 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http > xxx.yyy.zzz.56936: Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1445658553 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0 11:41:53.382320 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http > xxx.yyy.zzz.56936: Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1445659753 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0 11:41:54.088585 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.56936 > muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http: Flags [S], seq 2143442670, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 6,sackOK,TS val 8596173 ecr 0], length 0 11:41:54.098838 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http > xxx.yyy.zzz.56936: Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1445660466 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0 11:41:55.796638 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http > xxx.yyy.zzz.56936: Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1445662155 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0 11:41:57.288596 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.56936 > muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http: Flags [S], seq 2143442670, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 6,sackOK,TS val 8599373 ecr 0], length 0 11:41:57.299125 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http > xxx.yyy.zzz.56936: Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1445663650 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0 11:42:00.488595 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.56936 > muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http: Flags [S], seq 2143442670, win 65535, options [mss 1460,sackOK,eol], length 0 11:42:00.498606 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http > xxx.yyy.zzz.56936: Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1445666834 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0 11:42:00.621724 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http > xxx.yyy.zzz.56936: Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1445666957 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0 11:42:03.688596 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.56936 > muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http: Flags [S], seq 2143442670, win 65535, options [mss 1460,sackOK,eol], length 0 11:42:03.698762 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http > xxx.yyy.zzz.56936: Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1445670018 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0 11:42:06.888595 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.56936 > muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http: Flags [S], seq 2143442670, win 65535, options [mss 1460,sackOK,eol], length 0 11:42:06.899032 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http > xxx.yyy.zzz.56936: Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1445673202 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0 11:42:13.088586 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.56936 > muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http: Flags [S], seq 2143442670, win 65535, options [mss 1460,sackOK,eol], length 0 [...] % uname -rms FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 Regards, Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 09:48:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBAB106566C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:48:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D31288FC22 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:47:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Footer: b3NlLm5s Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:47:52 +0200 Message-ID: <500534A2.40802@ose.nl> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:47:14 +0200 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120716115022.68940af1@scorpio> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:48:00 -0000 On 07/17/2012 11:36 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> It appears I was mistaken. >> >> Care to elaborate? Most people on this list seem to speak highly of >> SpinRite. > > first - it is off topic. > second - because all commercial software like that are designed for > uneducated user, mostly try to automatically do everything. Which is a > danger not help. Hi This is an old story. You can look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpinRite and the talk page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ASpinRite http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/steve-gibson-is-a-fraud/ I have never used this "tool" because dd has always sufficed. Even with an almost end of hardware life (takketaketakke noise generating) disk I have been able to create an image (even with hitting the disk case because heads got stuck) and rescue data from it with plain dd. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l13sm16560216ann.2.2012.07.17.04.01.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 17 Jul 2012 04:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3Wbz8141lvz2CG62 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:01:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:01:37 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120717070137.59574505@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120716115022.68940af1@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlgJppb+vPM6yRFk0QTJtTuIyPiEbWOdOVDqbjh7XMDElinhzkUjllj6jhZ9e9BCTllashr Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:01:41 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:36:07 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar articulated: > >> It appears I was mistaken. > > > > Care to elaborate? Most people on this list seem to speak highly of > > SpinRite. > > first - it is off topic. > second - because all commercial software like that are designed for > uneducated user, mostly try to automatically do everything. Which is > a danger not help. I love reading your posts first thing in the morning Wojciech. After having read them I have assured myself that I cannot possible read anything more asinine for the rest of the day. Your replies are as sour as verjuice and of even less usefulness. To call you an incorrigible malcontent would be to simply state the obvious. Your spiel is abstruse, rarely on topic and totally self serving. You continue to cast aspersions and heap maledictions upon any who dare to disagree with you. Quite frankly, your postings are about as useful as "tits on a bull". It is with great pleasure that I am creating a kill filter to bounce anymore such mail from you that I should be so unfortunate as to receive. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 11:50:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34C2106566B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:50:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635D68FC0C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:50:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q6HBpq8a039504 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:51:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:51:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201207171151.q6HBpq8a039504@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:50:34 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 16 01:17:33 2012 > Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:15:13 +0200 (CEST) > From: Wojciech Puchar > To: Polytropon > Cc: FreeBSD > Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? > > > read attempts. In worst case, there will be "gaps" in the > > result. > > > >Surely SpinRite is "more clever" than that, > i would bet otherwise. simple tools and free tools are always better You continue to demonsteate that you "don't know what you don't know". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 11:56:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FA71065677 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:56:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [213.184.43.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD038FC1F for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:56:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFC63981F for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:56:15 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at post.raad.tartu.ee Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Z0K9boKwUcDf for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:56:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix, from userid 80) id 9EED139830; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:56:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 96.67.235.80.dyn.estpak.ee (96.67.235.80.dyn.estpak.ee [80.235.67.96]) by webmail.raad.tartu.ee (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:56:13 +0300 Message-ID: <20120717145613.20783z1jrv0xapyc@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:56:13 +0300 From: Toomas Aas To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.7) X-Originating-IP: 80.235.67.96 Cc: Subject: "Twitter.com is loading slowly" after updating to Firefox 13.0.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:56:22 -0000 Hello! I'm having this problem on two different computers, one running 8.3-STABLE and the other running 9.0-STABLE. After updating Firefox from 12.0 to 13.0.1, whenever I access twitter.com, I can log in but after that a message appears saying that "Twitter.com is loading slowly", and the site is practically unusable - clicking on any of the links has no effect. Various support sites say that this may be a problem with Firefox extensions or plugins, or some difficult-to-find problem which may be worked around by clearing cache and cookies, or trying with a new Firefox profile. For testing, I have disabled all extensions and plugins. I have also tried moving my ~/.mozilla directory out of the way so that new empty profile is created. None of this has helped. The fact that this is happening on two totally different machines is leading me to think that maybe this is some peculiarity in a way that Firefox is compiled on FreeBSD, so I decided to ask if anyone else is seeing this. When updating Firefox to 13.0.1, I didn't change any port configuration options from what I was using previously: cat /var/db/ports/firefox/options # This file is auto-generated by 'make config'. # Options for firefox-13.0.1,1 _FILE_COMPLETE_OPTIONS_LIST=DBUS PGO DEBUG LOGGING OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=DBUS OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=PGO OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=DEBUG OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=LOGGING OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS -- Toomas Aas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 11:59:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47021106566C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:59:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brentgclarklist@gmail.com) Received: from mail1.dur1.host-h.net (mail1.dur1.host-h.net [196.7.18.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F148FC15 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:59:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [196.7.147.49] (helo=[192.168.1.86]) by mail1.dur1.host-h.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sr6QZ-0006tt-25 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:58:55 +0200 Message-ID: <5005537E.20003@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:58:54 +0200 From: Brent Clark User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120624 Icedove/10.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.3/15144/Tue Jul 17 10:52:44 2012) Cc: Subject: KVM attach drive to FreeBSD guest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:59:04 -0000 Hiya Im running FreeNas on a KVM guest. I need to add (attach) a virtual drive. I run: qemu-img create -f qcow2 morespace.img 10G virsh: attach-disk freenas /space/morespace.img vdb I restart the FreeNas guest, but the spare drive is not shown on 'gpart list or show' To make extra sure, I did the same steps for a Debian guest. The attached drive is available. So I can only assume this is a FreeBSD issue. Anyone know how to attach a drive to a FreeBsD KVM guest? Kind Regards Brent Clark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 13:02:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD491065672 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:02:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@noos.larseighner.com) Received: from emailserver2.asdf456.com (emailserver2.asdf456.com [72.18.207.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AFF8B8FC1A for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:02:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21471 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jul 2012 12:56:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO noos.larseighner.com) (71.20.75.102) by emailserver2.asdf456.com with SMTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 05:56:14 -0700 Received: by noos.larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@noos.larseighner.com; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:55:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.larseighner.com To: Toomas Aas In-Reply-To: <20120717145613.20783z1jrv0xapyc@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> Message-ID: References: <20120717145613.20783z1jrv0xapyc@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Twitter.com is loading slowly" after updating to Firefox 13.0.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:02:57 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Toomas Aas wrote: > Hello! > > I'm having this problem on two different computers, one running 8.3-STABLE > and the other running 9.0-STABLE. After updating Firefox from 12.0 to 13.0.1, > whenever I access twitter.com, I can log in but after that a message appears > saying that "Twitter.com is loading slowly", and the site is practically > unusable - clicking on any of the links has no effect. If you do not know that there is something in firefox (now 13ish) which you must have, deinstall it and install firefox-esr (now 10ish). Apparently firefox is bleeding-edge and might better be called firefox-devel. The stable version is in firefox-esr. I haven't found anything that is mission-critical to me that is missing from esr. Everything works, except the linux-flash on flowplayer sites using js, but that is a 12ish linux-flash bug, not firefox. Sites using flowplayer without js work fine. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 13:28:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0841065673 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:28:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brentgclarklist@gmail.com) Received: from mail1.dur1.host-h.net (mail1.dur1.host-h.net [196.7.18.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED6E8FC15 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:28:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [196.7.147.49] (helo=[192.168.1.86]) by mail1.dur1.host-h.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sr7pb-0006JX-Ka for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:28:51 +0200 Message-ID: <50056892.3020502@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:28:50 +0200 From: Brent Clark User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120624 Icedove/10.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <5005537E.20003@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5005537E.20003@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.3/15144/Tue Jul 17 10:52:44 2012) Cc: Subject: Re: KVM attach drive to FreeBSD guest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:28:56 -0000 On 17/07/2012 13:58, Brent Clark wrote: > virsh: > attach-disk freenas /space/morespace.img vdb Hiya After much googling, I found the following on libvirt mailinglist (http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-November/msg00796.html) So the command is virsh: attach-disk freenas /space/morespace.img sdb (as opposed to vdb) HTH Regards Brent Clark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 14:10:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F8A1065672 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (mail1.sourcehosting.net [74.205.51.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF048FC15 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 24-181-237-39.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([24.181.237.39] helo=Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.73 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Sr88b-000Pos-FM; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:48:34 -0400 Received: from Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8494C1408CE1; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:48:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <50056D2C.7050508@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:48:28 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Toomas Aas References: <20120717145613.20783z1jrv0xapyc@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> In-Reply-To: <20120717145613.20783z1jrv0xapyc@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 24.181.237.39 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: glarkin@FreeBSD.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail1.sourcehosting.net X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_PBL, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL, RDNS_DYNAMIC, TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=no version=3.3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail1.sourcehosting.net) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Twitter.com is loading slowly" after updating to Firefox 13.0.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:10:25 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 7/17/12 7:56 AM, Toomas Aas wrote: > Hello! > > I'm having this problem on two different computers, one running > 8.3-STABLE and the other running 9.0-STABLE. After updating Firefox > from 12.0 to 13.0.1, whenever I access twitter.com, I can log in > but after that a message appears saying that "Twitter.com is > loading slowly", and the site is practically unusable - clicking on > any of the links has no effect. > > Various support sites say that this may be a problem with Firefox > extensions or plugins, or some difficult-to-find problem which may > be worked around by clearing cache and cookies, or trying with a > new Firefox profile. > > For testing, I have disabled all extensions and plugins. I have > also tried moving my ~/.mozilla directory out of the way so that > new empty profile is created. None of this has helped. The fact > that this is happening on two totally different machines is leading > me to think that maybe this is some peculiarity in a way that > Firefox is compiled on FreeBSD, so I decided to ask if anyone else > is seeing this. > > When updating Firefox to 13.0.1, I didn't change any port > configuration options from what I was using previously: cat > /var/db/ports/firefox/options # This file is auto-generated by > 'make config'. # Options for firefox-13.0.1,1 > _FILE_COMPLETE_OPTIONS_LIST=DBUS PGO DEBUG LOGGING > OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=DBUS OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=PGO > OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=DEBUG OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=LOGGING > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS > Hi Toomas, I ran into this problem with FF13 on OS X over the weekend, and I fixed it with a suggestion I found somewhere online: Open the about:config preference pane in FF. Change the http.keep-alive property to "true", and you should be all set. Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/cpucycle/ - Follow you, follow me -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAFbSwACgkQ0sRouByUApCeEACfbPTah7xWhOUs/KaVp+1Ro409 ryQAoJSPTTfYdrL7UV7NtxvL+egZXnqF =BAb3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 14:41:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D661F106566B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:41:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=5384dbffd=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-001.utdallas.edu (ip-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A91C68FC17 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:41:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: None X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtsEAPV4BVCBbgogTmdsb2JhbABFqjGPOQEBg0wCgWMaiCCbWoZOmwuRJ2ADiEuOBJFz X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,603,1336366800"; d="scan'208";a="101808275" Received: from zxtm01.utdallas.edu (HELO [129.110.200.11]) ([129.110.10.32]) by ip-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 17 Jul 2012 09:40:41 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:40:39 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions List Message-ID: <35DA07557A36800645B39187@localhost> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.1.0a1 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; size=1064 Subject: Apache vs. nginx X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:41:48 -0000 I'm the admin for a small hobby website (Stovebolt.com - about 7 million hits/mo). We're fixin to buy a new server, and since I have to start from scratch (install FreeBSD and all the needed ports), I'm wondering if anyone on this list has switched from Apache to nginx. If you have, what has your experience been like? Was the change relatively easy? (I'm not intimidated by technical details. I've been running FreeBSD on these servers for about 12 years now.) Was the performance better? (We've not been having any problems with Apache to this point.) Is there sufficient support from addon apps to run a site with a php-driven forum? -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 14:47:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D633106566B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:47:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.skuhra@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8A78FC16 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:47:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so998727pbb.13 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:47:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=2J4uSrIehn31PVlHQCrNipgBPunerRLFiMKIuf871fs=; b=hLoNC6uhsTecw9RlhHuAWoNXXBjmLysrnOa4dOQics1c9alQaeWLTpQXceTTBibFlC 9waZuEZuUzifHYt3K4dgnKgEIud9RyoJIPWbuc0NNHz3gVfIFtlJ4Xm1Wz3w8NC7raE0 XRyGm+kLFemH95rLoXSWgf2cltQda/CNRzHnr1UmFW+uD45peBnII8mBb1Nw7/0o5amb U+L98CiQmJAqYKcMxmSVzdAUUYy4OlyV26TSps0sG9vtj8ai3yjBbnTUaarww6Z3UZ0a ukuGncsr7cJxv2arDlWqSJRvMCZloHOVOJgClOEpXVcsiSWFOvHRe2Kfbj8Sfkj+cAE6 MrMg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.213.67 with SMTP id nq3mr6928689pbc.142.1342536438153; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.239.67 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:47:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87fw8yariq.wl%h.skuhra@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:47:17 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: Jails on FreeBSD 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:47:18 -0000 On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > With pf: > > I see the packets going out/coming in on fxp0 but somehow the jail > does not "see" them. Running 'nc 173.194.35.177 80" 'pfctl -ss' shows: all tcp xx.xxx.xx.xxx:54724 (192.168.1.1:30177) -> 173.194.35.177:80 ESTABLISHED:SYN_SENT tcpdump on pflog0 shows : 16:32:28.489495 rule 11..16777216/0(match): pass out on fxp0: xx.xxx.xx.xxx.54724 > 173.194.35.177.80: Flags [S], seq 3219071188, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 6,sackOK,TS val 13114581 ecr 0], length 0 16:32:28.499804 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat in on fxp0: 173.194.35.177.80 > 192.168.1.1.30177: Flags [S.], seq 3667423105, ack 3219071189, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1463073042 ecr 13114581,nop,wscale 6], length 0 16:32:28.893420 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat in on fxp0: 173.194.35.177.80 > 192.168.1.1.30177: Flags [S.], seq 3667423105, ack 3219071189, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1463073436 ecr 13114581,nop,wscale 6], length 0 16:32:29.494073 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat in on fxp0: 173.194.35.177.80 > 192.168.1.1.30177: Flags [S.], seq 3667423105, ack 3219071189, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1463074036 ecr 13114581,nop,wscale 6], length 0 16:32:30.695744 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat in on fxp0: 173.194.35.177.80 > 192.168.1.1.30177: Flags [S.], seq 3667423105, ack 3219071189, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1463075237 ecr 13114581,nop,wscale 6], length 0 16:32:31.489462 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat out on fxp0: xx.xxx.xx.xxx.54724 > 173.194.35.177.80: Flags [S], seq 3219071188, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 6,sackOK,TS val 13117581 ecr 0], length 0 16:32:31.500226 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat in on fxp0: 173.194.35.177.80 > 192.168.1.1.30177: Flags [S.], seq 3667423105, ack 3219071189, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1463076040 ecr 13114581,nop,wscale 6], length 0 16:32:33.098531 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat in on fxp0: 173.194.35.177.80 > 192.168.1.1.30177: Flags [S.], seq 3667423105, ack 3219071189, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1463077639 ecr 13114581,nop,wscale 6], length 0 16:32:34.689460 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat out on fxp0: xx.xxx.xx.xxx.54724 > 173.194.35.177.80: Flags [S], seq 3219071188, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 6,sackOK,TS val 13120781 ecr 0], length 0 16:32:34.699834 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat in on fxp0: 173.194.35.177.80 > 192.168.1.1.30177: Flags [S.], seq 3667423105, ack 3219071189, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1463079239 ecr 13114581,nop,wscale 6], length 0 16:32:37.889462 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat out on fxp0: xx.xxx.xx.xxx.54724 > 173.194.35.177.80: Flags [S], seq 3219071188, win 65535, options [mss 1460,sackOK,eol], length 0 16:32:37.899648 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat in on fxp0: 173.194.35.177.80 > 192.168.1.1.30177: Flags [S.], seq 3667423105, ack 3219071189, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1463082437 ecr 13114581,nop,wscale 6], length 0 16:32:37.906102 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat in on fxp0: 173.194.35.177.80 > 192.168.1.1.30177: Flags [S.], seq 3667423105, ack 3219071189, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1463082444 ecr 13114581,nop,wscale 6], length 0 16:32:41.089474 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat out on fxp0: xx.xxx.xx.xxx.54724 > 173.194.35.177.80: Flags [S], seq 3219071188, win 65535, options [mss 1460,sackOK,eol], length 0 16:32:41.100282 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat in on fxp0: 173.194.35.177.80 > 192.168.1.1.30177: Flags [S.], seq 3667423105, ack 3219071189, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1463085636 ecr 13114581,nop,wscale 6], length 0 16:32:44.289462 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat out on fxp0: xx.xxx.xx.xxx.54724 > 173.194.35.177.80: Flags [S], seq 3219071188, win 65535, options [mss 1460,sackOK,eol], length 0 16:32:44.300060 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat in on fxp0: 173.194.35.177.80 > 192.168.1.1.30177: Flags [S.], seq 3667423105, ack 3219071189, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1463088834 ecr 13114581,nop,wscale 6], length 0 What's wrong? In the meantime I've found kern/164271. Regards, Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 14:59:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBBA106564A; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:59:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DBD8FC14; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:59:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6HEqkjL074591; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:52:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <50057C3E.1030409@qeng-ho.org> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:52:46 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120626 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org References: <20120717145613.20783z1jrv0xapyc@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <50056D2C.7050508@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <50056D2C.7050508@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: "Twitter.com is loading slowly" after updating to Firefox 13.0.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:59:20 -0000 On 07/17/12 14:48, Greg Larkin wrote: > On 7/17/12 7:56 AM, Toomas Aas wrote: >> I'm having this problem on two different computers, one running >> 8.3-STABLE and the other running 9.0-STABLE. After updating Firefox >> from 12.0 to 13.0.1, whenever I access twitter.com, I can log in >> but after that a message appears saying that "Twitter.com is >> loading slowly", and the site is practically unusable - clicking on >> any of the links has no effect. >> >> Various support sites say that this may be a problem with Firefox >> extensions or plugins, or some difficult-to-find problem which may >> be worked around by clearing cache and cookies, or trying with a >> new Firefox profile. >> >> For testing, I have disabled all extensions and plugins. I have >> also tried moving my ~/.mozilla directory out of the way so that >> new empty profile is created. None of this has helped. The fact >> that this is happening on two totally different machines is leading >> me to think that maybe this is some peculiarity in a way that >> Firefox is compiled on FreeBSD, so I decided to ask if anyone else >> is seeing this. >> >> When updating Firefox to 13.0.1, I didn't change any port >> configuration options from what I was using previously: cat >> /var/db/ports/firefox/options # This file is auto-generated by >> 'make config'. # Options for firefox-13.0.1,1 >> _FILE_COMPLETE_OPTIONS_LIST=DBUS PGO DEBUG LOGGING >> OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=DBUS OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=PGO >> OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=DEBUG OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=LOGGING >> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS >> > > Hi Toomas, > > I ran into this problem with FF13 on OS X over the weekend, and I > fixed it with a suggestion I found somewhere online: > > Open the about:config preference pane in FF. Change the > http.keep-alive property to "true", and you should be all set. > > Hope that helps, My FF 13.0.1 shows true as the default state for network.http.keep_alive From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 15:19:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CABDB106564A for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:19:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [IPv6:2001:470:28:38a::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A54A8FC08 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:19:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.liukuma.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CBF1CC2C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:19:16 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 99CBF1CC2C DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=liukuma.net; s=liukudkim; t=1342538356; bh=aU8Hdd3mqJEHephAiE3aCqnn39GnqNtefhn3zcd82bg=; h=Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; z=X-Virus-Scanned:=20amavisd-new=20at=20liukuma.net|X-DKIM:=20Sendm ail=20DKIM=20Filter=20v2.8.3=20www.liukuma.net=20024FB1CC2B|Messag e-ID:=20|From:=20"Reko =20Turja"=20|To:=20 |Subject:=20Ports=20building=20automatically=20with=20default=20op tions?|Date:=20Tue,=2017=20Jul=202012=2018:19:01=20+0300|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=0D=0A=09format=3Dflowed=3 B=0D=0A=09charset=3D"utf-8"=3B=0D=0A=09reply-type=3Doriginal|Conte nt-Transfer-Encoding:=207bit|X-Priority:=203|X-MSMail-Priority:=20 Normal|Importance:=20Normal|X-Mailer:=20Microsoft=20Windows=20Live =20Mail=2015.4.3555.308|X-MimeOLE:=20Produced=20By=20Microsoft=20M imeOLE=20V15.4.3555.308; b=GHE/EbkwCRLw3M5H99pmM+e1XG3M81W72Qw4fakSKo6l2m5h7dt60lp05aztfeh4W LALzmKVIDaD6R+WGoq9pKBC3Hvxkx1IW8EATaXpckGNKB9Fh+/GPymWH5Th9zz2ar2 t/XMeOQMV3A4jPmiOYAv5/Fc1+3y/t1BrG173nIk= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id KGSg59WESrPx for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:19:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: from Rivendell (dsl-kmibrasgw1-fe47de00-175.dhcp.inet.fi [80.222.71.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 024FB1CC2B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:19:12 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 024FB1CC2B Message-ID: From: "Reko Turja" To: Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:19:01 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 Cc: Subject: Ports building automatically with default options? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:19:25 -0000 I just installed new 9.0 machine from scratch, cvsupped ports, fetched index and started building portupgrade. Both perl and ruby built with default options, without running config. No changes in port building steps nor workaround for this POLA violation anywhere in the UPDATING etc. as far as I could see. Is there workarounds or information how to get ports building the old way with asking options? -Reko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 15:36:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDA4106566C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:36:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7388FC19 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.53]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EBF3A70F3E for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:36:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32448 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2012 15:36:26 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 29209, pid: 3932, t: 0.3058s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:13495 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Jul 2012 15:36:26 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A9633C23; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:36:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 66A6D3984C; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:36:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "Reko Turja" References: Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:36:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Reko Turja's message of "Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:19:01 +0300") Message-ID: <44ipdm4cy4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Ports building automatically with default options? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:36:33 -0000 "Reko Turja" writes: > I just installed new 9.0 machine from scratch, cvsupped ports, fetched > index and started building portupgrade. Both perl and ruby built with > default options, without running config. No changes in port building > steps nor workaround for this POLA violation anywhere in the UPDATING > etc. as far as I could see. > > Is there workarounds or information how to get ports building the old > way with asking options? The defaults haven't changed, so something must have happened locally. Check whether you've got BATCH defined in make.conf, and whether /var/db/ports contains configurations for those ports. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 15:48:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E2D106564A for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:48:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [IPv6:2001:470:28:38a::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9769A8FC1D for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:48:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.liukuma.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6DD1CC2C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:48:07 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 9D6DD1CC2C DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=liukuma.net; s=liukudkim; t=1342540087; bh=6/k4AjR6t6plIVivBQ90fCbDg9jtzX5vQ2I+PCc3mhg=; h=Message-ID:From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; z=X-Virus-Scanned:=20amavisd-new=20at=20liukuma.net|X-DKIM:=20Sendm ail=20DKIM=20Filter=20v2.8.3=20www.liukuma.net=20CC62F1CC2B|Messag e-ID:=20<9B4C537601E64EE1BD4C8FC6C5CEFDCE@Rivendell>|From:=20"Reko =20Turja"=20|To:=20 |Cc:=20|References:=20=20<44ipdm4cy4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan>|In-Repl y-To:=20<44ipdm4cy4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan>|Subject:=20Re:=20Ports=20 building=20automatically=20with=20default=20options?|Date:=20Tue,= 2017=20Jul=202012=2018:48:02=20+0300|MIME-Version:=201.0|Content-T ype:=20text/plain=3B=0D=0A=09format=3Dflowed=3B=0D=0A=09charset=3D "iso-8859-1"=3B=0D=0A=09reply-type=3Doriginal|Content-Transfer-Enc oding:=207bit|X-Priority:=203|X-MSMail-Priority:=20Normal|Importan ce:=20Normal|X-Mailer:=20Microsoft=20Windows=20Live=20Mail=2015.4. 3555.308|X-MimeOLE:=20Produced=20By=20Microsoft=20MimeOLE=20V15.4. 3555.308; b=Ea4q2U4Ha+e4bVTlUMUUi3GP6EAyAzo8mRVUFxOeAcjwkTkQKWDByw/o2A6zBSAP+ +cC2Xp+MExodVPNuhaLITaJPkPXF0qHVcAyxBglCJJEPpO6MBVXVBUv5DIKfV5iPcG 0ZjOHjhRoZDmnfq9pqiY8sKXtiaiLhe0J3C2OTqY= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id YB5vlSk0mAQU for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:48:04 +0300 (EEST) Received: from Rivendell (dsl-kmibrasgw1-fe47de00-175.dhcp.inet.fi [80.222.71.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CC62F1CC2B; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:48:03 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net CC62F1CC2B Message-ID: <9B4C537601E64EE1BD4C8FC6C5CEFDCE@Rivendell> From: "Reko Turja" To: References: <44ipdm4cy4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44ipdm4cy4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:48:02 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Ports building automatically with default options? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:48:09 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: Lowell Gilbert > The defaults haven't changed, so something must have happened locally. > Check whether you've got BATCH defined in make.conf, and whether > /var/db/ports contains configurations for those ports. That's the strange thing... Virgin system, just updated ports tree and index & started building. No knobs in make.conf and /var/db/ports is empty... I wonder if there's some kind of hickup going on at cvsup.se.freebsd.org... -Reko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 15:51:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EDE106566B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:51:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B988FC0C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:51:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbon10 with SMTP id n10so1044697lbo.13 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:51:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=t29+d5RkcV2znCfxRUD5bbBS9rmDyc1cRo/ZlQUpX14=; b=VxiUid86dbpcSpgp5zt1a0/IjxEkjfthvZf+tKEkWLEiv1n6f3vFOnbD/pjjp6Yagk mkJEZcyTaCjvuojUxpLXwVCCSMfdYowgBUG1bXnWZpcSIFm0I4LJ0xpal2T+LkyTOIg9 SMTuLrkGQ/kUWzKZOaQz5GpztrK1ipZATpWdHNq7JV/J9NYPagoKwkUPmJJhr6lkXusv LVwaisUNYGdQNeZvIP3vnnDFNU7vPjlenuArusGrDs/rj342ut8KiAFJvpEudobTzXnQ tIhONOn6GulNqS/rCTwwlDHUmSInBCiyq+8yno5vJwERRypu7DeCYU3w0NV1Oz3MgTxJ Dl1w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.113.199 with SMTP id ja7mr3239120lab.10.1342540264014; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.24.131 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:51:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9B4C537601E64EE1BD4C8FC6C5CEFDCE@Rivendell> References: <44ipdm4cy4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <9B4C537601E64EE1BD4C8FC6C5CEFDCE@Rivendell> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:51:03 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: Reko Turja Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports building automatically with default options? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:51:06 -0000 On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Reko Turja wrote: > -----Original Message----- From: Lowell Gilbert > > >> The defaults haven't changed, so something must have happened locally. >> Check whether you've got BATCH defined in make.conf, and whether >> /var/db/ports contains configurations for those ports. > > > That's the strange thing... Virgin system, just updated ports tree and index > & started building. No knobs in make.conf and /var/db/ports is empty... Strange really... Did you see a message like "Found saved configuration for $port"? Did you try to see what happens if you run "make rmconfig" on those ports? > > I wonder if there's some kind of hickup going on at cvsup.se.freebsd.org... > > -Reko > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 15:53:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25AF61065672; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:53:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [213.184.43.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E148FC0A; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:53:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681D93984C; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:53:38 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at post.raad.tartu.ee Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id mZLthYkPRuU1; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:53:37 +0300 (EEST) Received: by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix, from userid 80) id 092D639832; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:53:37 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 96.67.235.80.dyn.estpak.ee (96.67.235.80.dyn.estpak.ee [80.235.67.96]) by webmail.raad.tartu.ee (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:53:36 +0300 Message-ID: <20120717185336.202575de6h1c178c@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:53:36 +0300 From: Toomas Aas To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org References: <20120717145613.20783z1jrv0xapyc@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <50056D2C.7050508@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <50056D2C.7050508@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.7) X-Originating-IP: 80.235.67.96 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Twitter.com is loading slowly" after updating to Firefox 13.0.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:53:40 -0000 Hello Greg! > I ran into this problem with FF13 on OS X over the weekend, and I > fixed it with a suggestion I found somewhere online: > > Open the about:config preference pane in FF. Change the > http.keep-alive property to "true", and you should be all set. Thanks for the suggestion. I actually saw this recommendation while searching for solution, but in my case network.http.keep-alive was already set to true. Another suggestion was to set 'network.http.spdy.enabled' to 'false', which I did, but this also didn't help. -- Toomas Aas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 15:56:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482C6106566B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:56:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14EEA8FC0C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:56:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFB7A700B7 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:56:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2060 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2012 15:56:22 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 2237, pid: 32426, t: 0.1518s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Jul 2012 15:56:22 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5412733C23; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:56:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id CAE5E3984C; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:56:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "Reko Turja" References: <44ipdm4cy4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <9B4C537601E64EE1BD4C8FC6C5CEFDCE@Rivendell> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:56:16 -0400 In-Reply-To: <9B4C537601E64EE1BD4C8FC6C5CEFDCE@Rivendell> (Reko Turja's message of "Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:48:02 +0300") Message-ID: <44ehoa4c0v.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Ports building automatically with default options? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:56:24 -0000 "Reko Turja" writes: > -----Original Message----- > From: Lowell Gilbert > >> The defaults haven't changed, so something must have happened locally. >> Check whether you've got BATCH defined in make.conf, and whether >> /var/db/ports contains configurations for those ports. > > That's the strange thing... Virgin system, just updated ports tree and > index & started building. No knobs in make.conf and /var/db/ports is > empty... Strange indeed. What does "make config" do on this system? Maybe you have something in your environment? > I wonder if there's some kind of hickup going on at cvsup.se.freebsd.org... I can't think of anything along those lines which would explain these symptoms. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 16:19:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8DC1065674 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:19:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [IPv6:2001:470:28:38a::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90388FC19 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.liukuma.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57FF01CC2C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:19:45 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 57FF01CC2C DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=liukuma.net; s=liukudkim; t=1342541985; bh=40YxpMQdJbMMD4BaWT7ctlr/aXn1vasm1Q7hKbJZa8Y=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; z=X-Virus-Scanned:=20amavisd-new=20at=20liukuma.net|X-DKIM:=20Sendm ail=20DKIM=20Filter=20v2.8.3=20www.liukuma.net=208E2411CC2B|Messag e-ID:=20|From:=20"Reko =20Turja"=20|To:=20 |References:=20<44ipdm 4cy4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan><9B4C537601E64EE1BD4C8FC6C5CEFDCE@Rivende ll>=20|In-Reply-To:=20|Subject:=20Re:=20Ports=20building=20aut omatically=20with=20default=20options?|Date:=20Tue,=2017=20Jul=202 012=2019:19:38=20+0300|MIME-Version:=201.0|Content-Type:=20text/pl ain=3B=0D=0A=09format=3Dflowed=3B=0D=0A=09charset=3D"iso-8859-1"=3 B=0D=0A=09reply-type=3Doriginal|Content-Transfer-Encoding:=208bit| X-Priority:=203|X-MSMail-Priority:=20Normal|Importance:=20Normal|X -Mailer:=20Microsoft=20Windows=20Live=20Mail=2015.4.3555.308|X-Mim eOLE:=20Produced=20By=20Microsoft=20MimeOLE=20V15.4.3555.308; b=WGxyRku9DAqR+VDmuh/F2dcdjQBc/xQnrCg59yGGCUP+jp0v/h+QsoNFEUq6WJ2Go /COSDxHCsuP+YPMV4/smK9bqyautJf1stZM1+WfokJIwdNYjbSdoOCumk2rp49cKdk wL1rgjGCzn9z4KehFHbQvju7TXvXTxhHV/Y9A3ZU= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id mmGx3LF6WfMk for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:19:39 +0300 (EEST) Received: from Rivendell (dsl-kmibrasgw1-fe47de00-175.dhcp.inet.fi [80.222.71.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8E2411CC2B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:19:39 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 8E2411CC2B Message-ID: From: "Reko Turja" To: References: <44ipdm4cy4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan><9B4C537601E64EE1BD4C8FC6C5CEFDCE@Rivendell> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:19:38 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 Cc: Subject: Re: Ports building automatically with default options? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:19:47 -0000 From: Fernando Apesteguía > Did you see a message like "Found saved configuration for $port"? On perl, which I configured manually, but on others please see later in the message. > Did you try to see what happens if you run "make rmconfig" on those ports? ===> No user-specified options configured for ruby-1.8.7.370,1 > From: Lowell Gilbert > Strange indeed. What does "make config" do on this system? Opens dialog & saves config as intended > Maybe you have something in your environment? Environment seems to be vanilla. Seems like building skips config step altogether, or not echoing about it at least: ---> Reinstalling 'ruby-1.8.7.370,1' (lang/ruby18) ---> Building '/usr/ports/lang/ruby18' ===> Cleaning for ruby-1.8.7.370,1 ===> Extracting for ruby-1.8.7.370,1 => SHA256 Checksum OK for ruby/ruby-1.8.7-p370.tar.bz2. /bin/mv /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p370/ext/dl/h2rb /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p370/bin/ ===> Patching for ruby-1.8.7.370,1 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for ruby-1.8.7.370,1 /bin/rm -rf /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p370/ext/Win32API /bin/rm -rf /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p370/ext/win32ole /bin/mv /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p370/ext/gdbm /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ /bin/mv /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p370/ext/iconv /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ /bin/mv /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p370/ext/tk /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ ===> ruby-1.8.7.370,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/automake-1.12 - found ===> ruby-1.8.7.370,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf-2.69 - found ===> Configuring for ruby-1.8.7.370,1 /usr/bin/touch /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p370/configure checking build system type... i386-portbld-freebsd9 portupgrade -afc skips config step as well portupgrade -afC gives the dialogs Ghost in the machine? :D -Reko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 16:32:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBACF106566C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:32:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B7E8FC24 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:32:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SrAhR-0003XT-Oo for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:32:37 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:32:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1342542757760-5727668.post@n5.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Nasty reference loop in login.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:32:44 -0000 It's my fault. I'm running 9-STABLE. During mergemaster run, I forgot to add localised settings to login.conf. No problem I thought, then I edited login.conf by hand before running /usr/bin/cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf. By sloppy paste, I accidentally created :tc=default: loop in default:\. Now, of course I cannot login as anybody nor use sudo. e.g. login_getclass: 'tc=' reference loop 'root' su: pam_acct_mgmt: error in service module sudo: login_getclass: 'tc=' reference loop 'default' Moreover I'm afraid to power down machine, as currently I'm logged as wheel group user, and I'm not sure if change from :passwd_format=md5:\ to :passwd_format=sha512:\ didn't complicate it further... Currently all my solutions would require to power down machine, which I'm afraid to do frankly. 1. Hope I can still log in single user mode and correct /etc/login.conf? I'm afraid of md5 -> sha512 change. 2. Use some LiveCD and correct login.conf, then run /usr/bin/cap_mkdb . Has anybody have other ideas? -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Nasty-reference-loop-in-login-conf-tp5727668.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 16:46:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE271065673 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [77.86.213.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95A08FC14 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:46:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.liukuma.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2D81CC2C; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:46:05 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 3B2D81CC2C DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=liukuma.net; s=liukudkim; t=1342543565; bh=RKgctRK4F91UmDlCWTOY4vczieHZUvx/aojhc9Acj14=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; z=X-Virus-Scanned:=20amavisd-new=20at=20liukuma.net|X-DKIM:=20Sendm ail=20DKIM=20Filter=20v2.8.3=20www.liukuma.net=2042CDB1CC2B|Messag e-ID:=20<66A1E803E2F9438B85C65B3783D9FD7E@Rivendell>|From:=20"Reko =20Turja"=20|To:=20"Jakub=20Lach"=20,=0D=0A=09|Refere nces:=20<1342542757760-5727668.post@n5.nabble.com>|In-Reply-To:=20 <1342542757760-5727668.post@n5.nabble.com>|Subject:=20Re:=20Nasty= 20reference=20loop=20in=20login.conf|Date:=20Tue,=2017=20Jul=20201 2=2019:45:59=20+0300|MIME-Version:=201.0|Content-Type:=20text/plai n=3B=0D=0A=09format=3Dflowed=3B=0D=0A=09charset=3D"iso-8859-1"=3B= 0D=0A=09reply-type=3Doriginal|Content-Transfer-Encoding:=207bit|X- Priority:=203|X-MSMail-Priority:=20Normal|Importance:=20Normal|X-M ailer:=20Microsoft=20Windows=20Live=20Mail=2015.4.3555.308|X-MimeO LE:=20Produced=20By=20Microsoft=20MimeOLE=20V15.4.3555.308; b=MX9+NGF10emg8m+CqJ1eCIrRgLBHlqd6ycIiJ7zS5tX5TBwLau0VBFi/UfCd+iiUt jPhWk3eIvTTOB2dXf4uQRMV+Oxl+29FlaS2Ka8JD1K7WZpLNnpPMDqCVgpw+QPqfrQ EZSAv9OPzPZfr2QFqOM1JoWNCJ3hy7KoAVa7UU8E= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Y-FQDeT7Z0CG; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:46:00 +0300 (EEST) Received: from Rivendell (dsl-kmibrasgw1-fe47de00-175.dhcp.inet.fi [80.222.71.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 42CDB1CC2B; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:46:00 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 42CDB1CC2B Message-ID: <66A1E803E2F9438B85C65B3783D9FD7E@Rivendell> From: "Reko Turja" To: "Jakub Lach" , References: <1342542757760-5727668.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1342542757760-5727668.post@n5.nabble.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:45:59 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 Cc: Subject: Re: Nasty reference loop in login.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:46:07 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: Jakub Lach > Moreover I'm afraid to power down machine, as > currently I'm logged as wheel group user, and I'm not > sure if change from :passwd_format=md5:\ > to :passwd_format=sha512:\ didn't complicate it further... > Currently all my solutions would require to power down > machine, which I'm afraid to do frankly. > 1. Hope I can still log in single user mode and correct > /etc/login.conf? I'm afraid of md5 -> sha512 change. > 2. Use some LiveCD and correct login.conf, then run > /usr/bin/cap_mkdb . Killing init - means that you drop to singleuser mode kill -TERM 1 End result may depend on whether or not your singleuser mode is password protected. -Reko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 16:52:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47261065678 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1638FC15 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:52:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9025A70B90 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32516 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2012 16:52:56 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 2724, pid: 26776, t: 0.1373s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Jul 2012 16:52:56 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4295A33C23; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:52:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 4DB193984C; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:52:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "Reko Turja" References: <44ipdm4cy4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <9B4C537601E64EE1BD4C8FC6C5CEFDCE@Rivendell> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:52:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Reko Turja's message of "Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:19:38 +0300") Message-ID: <44sjcql480.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports building automatically with default options? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:52:57 -0000 "Reko Turja" writes: > Ghost in the machine? :D I just saw on the ports list that it has just been fixed. Looks like a typo in ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk. Sorry for doubting you... Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 16:58:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E16106567A for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:58:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81398FC19 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:58:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.53]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F327A710A2 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:58:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2915 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2012 16:58:39 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 3469, pid: 12214, t: 0.1363s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:13495 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Jul 2012 16:58:39 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F8833C24; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:58:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id ABE593984C; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:58:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Jakub Lach References: <1342542757760-5727668.post@n5.nabble.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:58:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1342542757760-5727668.post@n5.nabble.com> (Jakub Lach's message of "Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:32:37 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <44obnel3ye.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nasty reference loop in login.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:58:41 -0000 Jakub Lach writes: > 1. Hope I can still log in single user mode and correct > /etc/login.conf? I'm afraid of md5 -> sha512 change. It's not a problem. New passwords will be created with SHA512, but old ones in MD5 (or, for that matter, DES or Bluefish or several other formats listed in crypt(3)) will still work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 17:01:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0C0106566B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:01:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49298FC15 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:01:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6HH1SvQ001680; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:01:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6HH1S58001677; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:01:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:01:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Toomas Aas In-Reply-To: <20120717145613.20783z1jrv0xapyc@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> Message-ID: References: <20120717145613.20783z1jrv0xapyc@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:01:28 +0200 (CEST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Twitter.com is loading slowly" after updating to Firefox 13.0.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:01:38 -0000 > and the other running 9.0-STABLE. After updating Firefox from 12.0 to 13.0.1, > whenever I access twitter.com, I can log in but after that a message appears > saying that "Twitter.com is loading slowly", and the site is practically > unusable - clicking on any of the links has no effect. > i don't think it is freebsd related question. anyway - use firefox 10.0.0.5-esr from ports. It just works(R). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 17:02:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFBC31065672 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:02:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD818FC0C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:02:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6HH2KrL001697; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:02:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6HH2JUd001694; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:02:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:02:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Robert Bonomi In-Reply-To: <201207171151.q6HBpq8a039504@mail.r-bonomi.com> Message-ID: References: <201207171151.q6HBpq8a039504@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:02:20 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:02:26 -0000 >> >> >>> Surely SpinRite is "more clever" than that, >> i would bet otherwise. simple tools and free tools are always better > > You continue to demonsteate that you "don't know what you don't know". are you another sponsored by some "recovery tool" commercial producer? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 17:04:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF92A106566C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [IPv6:2001:470:28:38a::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396A88FC1A for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:04:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.liukuma.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9BE71CC2C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:04:42 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net B9BE71CC2C DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=liukuma.net; s=liukudkim; t=1342544682; bh=xn6LmKLOYUD7C+hI2Ib395hESY21TcJobakZNK1Zux4=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; z=X-Virus-Scanned:=20amavisd-new=20at=20liukuma.net|X-DKIM:=20Sendm ail=20DKIM=20Filter=20v2.8.3=20www.liukuma.net=20217831CC2B|Messag e-ID:=20<51D540CCDECF436BB9EFC8B2E8113C36@Rivendell>|From:=20"Reko =20Turja"=20|To:=20 |References:=20<44ipdm 4cy4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan><9B4C537601E64EE1BD4C8FC6C5CEFDCE@Rivende ll>=20<44sjcql480.fs f@lowell-desk.lan>|In-Reply-To:=20<44sjcql480.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> |Subject:=20Re:=20Ports=20building=20automatically=20with=20defaul t=20options?|Date:=20Tue,=2017=20Jul=202012=2020:04:38=20+0300|MIM E-Version:=201.0|Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=0D=0A=09format=3Dfl owed=3B=0D=0A=09charset=3D"utf-8"=3B=0D=0A=09reply-type=3Doriginal |Content-Transfer-Encoding:=207bit|X-Priority:=203|X-MSMail-Priori ty:=20Normal|Importance:=20Normal|X-Mailer:=20Microsoft=20Windows= 20Live=20Mail=2015.4.3555.308|X-MimeOLE:=20Produced=20By=20Microso ft=20MimeOLE=20V15.4.3555.308; b=k/hpQoPVn/8KavBq3crIMiVcFVrueH+86U/9fJDy2nhnp2US7YpwfBrP/oVmkWdsX 5ltwl4mJo8CimzH2914Y6B/c6aMmxNQTk8A24qfZv/EnJS8/Rc1mT1IcNIVBppn0eq HHEyW+1io8VrITNYnCAvxO/cZbrqMB3vDM0xU468= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id xlcxjGttqM4o for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:04:39 +0300 (EEST) Received: from Rivendell (dsl-kmibrasgw1-fe47de00-175.dhcp.inet.fi [80.222.71.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 217831CC2B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:04:39 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 217831CC2B Message-ID: <51D540CCDECF436BB9EFC8B2E8113C36@Rivendell> From: "Reko Turja" To: References: <44ipdm4cy4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan><9B4C537601E64EE1BD4C8FC6C5CEFDCE@Rivendell> <44sjcql480.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44sjcql480.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:04:38 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 Cc: Subject: Re: Ports building automatically with default options? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:04:45 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: Lowell Gilbert > I just saw on the ports list that it has just been fixed. > Looks like a typo in ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk. > > Sorry for doubting you... No worries, was pretty stumped myself for a while there. Time to subscribe to ports@ too then I reckon. -Reko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 17:29:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09CA106564A for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:29:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89E58FC14 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:29:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SrBaB-00080D-Ce for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 10:29:11 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 10:29:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1342546151386-5727686.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <44obnel3ye.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> References: <1342542757760-5727668.post@n5.nabble.com> <44obnel3ye.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Nasty reference loop in login.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:29:12 -0000 If remember correctly, accessing single user mode here requires root password, but will it use login.conf? Killing init is not solution (I think I lack privileges as user anyway, remember I can't su account) because I'm running KMS patches and will not see anything (lacking visible system console output). -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Nasty-reference-loop-in-login-conf-tp5727668p5727686.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 18:06:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C676106567A for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:06:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B5C8FC15 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:06:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.113.121.170] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SrCAD-0008P4-Cx; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:06:25 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q6HI6NvI001165; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:06:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q6HI6Lcu001164; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:06:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:06:21 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20120717180620.GA1109@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <20120717145613.20783z1jrv0xapyc@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 82.113.121.170 Cc: Toomas Aas , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Twitter.com is loading slowly" after updating to Firefox 13.0.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:06:34 -0000 El día Tuesday, July 17, 2012 a las 07:01:28PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar escribió: > > whenever I access twitter.com, I can log in but after that a message appears > > saying that "Twitter.com is loading slowly", and the site is practically > > unusable - clicking on any of the links has no effect. > > > i don't think it is freebsd related question. fully agreed; and: what is Twitter at all? matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 19:26:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B462B106566C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=5384dbffd=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-001.utdallas.edu (ip-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763178FC16 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:26:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: None X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtsEAKy7BVCBbgogWWdsb2JhbABFqVWPRwEjEIJbAQEEATgCPwULCw4KLkMUBhOHfgMGBrN0FIlHi0CFb2ADiEuOBJFz X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,604,1336366800"; d="scan'208";a="101836361" Received: from zxtm01.utdallas.edu (HELO [129.110.200.11]) ([129.110.10.32]) by ip-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 17 Jul 2012 14:26:28 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:26:25 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <369EA14C9A8386079EDF53CA@localhost> In-Reply-To: <090D2CE4-FB19-4B40-ADCF-CE3FC1C45C1E@mac.com> References: <35DA07557A36800645B39187@localhost> <090D2CE4-FB19-4B40-ADCF-CE3FC1C45C1E@mac.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.1.0a1 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; size=2497 Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: Apache vs. nginx X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:26:30 -0000 Thanks, Chuck. That's very useful input. --On July 17, 2012 10:40:30 AM -0700 Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Jul 17, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> I'm the admin for a small hobby website (Stovebolt.com - about 7 million >> hits/mo). We're fixin to buy a new server, and since I have to start >> from scratch (install FreeBSD and all the needed ports), I'm wondering >> if anyone on this list has switched from Apache to nginx. >> >> If you have, what has your experience been like? Was the change >> relatively easy? (I'm not intimidated by technical details. I've been >> running FreeBSD on these servers for about 12 years now.) Was the >> performance better? (We've not been having any problems with Apache to >> this point.) Is there sufficient support from addon apps to run a site >> with a php-driven forum? > > I've compared them; since I know Apache...rather well, switching to nginx > didn't strike me as a useful change at any of the sites for which I've > setup or managed their webservers. You have to invoke external scripts > like a PHP forum via FastCGI (what nginx calls ngx_http_fastcgi_module); > using and tuning FastCGI separately from the webserver itself definitely > has some advantages, but those same advantages can be obtained in Apache > by using mod_fcgi instead of using mod_php directly. > > Apache is bulkier per process than nginx but has more modules and config > options available for it; nginx seems to have been tuned more for server > farms hosting a lot of low-volume vanity domains, so it has minimal > overhead, implements IP-based and name-based virtual hosting eloquently, > implements bandwidth rate controls as a core functionality, etc. > > I cannot recall encountering a circumstance where the base performance of > the webserver itself turned out to be the primary criterion for "website > performance"; sites are almost always constrained by bandwidth and/or the > performance of the dynamic scripts, database backend, etc-- and not by > the webserver's ability to serve static resources. > > Regards, -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 19:48:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE3A106566B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:48:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FE28FC0C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:48:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SrDl8-0000RJ-JC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:48:38 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:48:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1342554518588-5727712.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1342546151386-5727686.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1342542757760-5727668.post@n5.nabble.com> <44obnel3ye.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <1342546151386-5727686.post@n5.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Nasty reference loop in login.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:48:39 -0000 Initially dropped to single user mode, but when I saw ED(1) I reconsidered and dusted off trusty LiveCD :) Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Nasty-reference-loop-in-login-conf-tp5727668p5727712.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 20:12:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B5A106564A for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: from nm25.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm25.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4EE588FC15 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:12:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.44.105] by nm25.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jul 2012 20:12:16 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.71] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jul 2012 20:12:16 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jul 2012 20:12:16 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 907941.86136.bm@omp1008.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 75615 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2012 20:12:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=icR1VUiIHe4OtJwPua3svsbFgAabumsfDysspTIvO+xMuNRBMKikQcKs+sAgHQaZe4xs6KxngpkDvGGlZEFWgEF6OsmmroY4CT+CPxibhqq8DdVMdr+OuQc883ntiRtD1UtXvdzy+/HJB8EaPS/wN/XSiSa8yyKxKNU0jGkYwBA= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s1024; t=1342555936; bh=LkloO7JvO8g1gpZ47A4bgWaU1/UyWj7qoOuUf9FlKLo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Pf28eyliccUxwOFx7bUf1F91DQ0muRE0yK7cKIR1CMzkl1WmxtC6OF7/tZdEmKlugTzwQcoCk/Z608YA7l1NBgW9mTGKdf53XRJyC/77Z0ROeNnK2ptNF36+l6urEiQBANYtRmcNBr3oC970AquSkWkkvecMwbcrG+eOwcHjIbw= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: P.Vz1BMVM1mx.eYakdYW82hFwpIiMBiMV5HDjT7RgK6YSew x6_OJG0nck52gqYy40YedT7xlu.zCpjImqp_xCMY24X0oiDRM_JvdRv5BXas XGKfRUx4cmN_CAW9tquHx5Iqpm9hxCKk7AjusBLN4UnMD_Z.MKbCo9P19Zbf 4JsVz_1UWE6Gv.caxmk9kaXtBTlWy9_Eba8aUe99qFWV_dDVi5vWNL4dy1PI 8r80N47.IxRKnGgYn7gM1X.1tTVFaCBX6oJ1GJ.eXmZ6o0kLGfwfQ5fDmP8S G523tGFgaMZE4Vc2osQAzNzs5KGBGA1tSwJssrq6YmFBfYsTlJd21qmTxmVK K4CPo.WVXvQbkXcWKALVoeBgk4B6OdZ77.ZiomR4lLzcSwyvS846kLTqAY3h _c0fui83hTEPRpA0LlBoP8J6fDKVFP3AsEvTkugAW8JVv_yHqtiP80Qr05_c icPIVjUHnxLCL4O70ABelTFQJVvYTz6LlTkvmxmN7W3ChebOgDpsjaj_hhIB r9b9394SF1pgIIsijbbOEVEG_x6vPyOBZhdQsYnYmYyCh_6KQdKayZQD3V8e jqJoC2iApWqrIWHBaFzofDW4QzUC7e63RT5fnmAVxyMp663gGqT0Pi2MLQfA Tt.KmHoV4Wr2IFuVGKQYtp_91.E8rrfo4Ycml9emyRSk8w8xBeq6kaT5LSlq Vi64uRU2kI2Cz.WVPanLRh4ofR.Y2Tg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: N82WFx6swBBjwcHWPFR2CGt6udzA8RPrA.xm0enFFXaK2g-- Received: from europa (mike.jeays@99.224.68.20 with login) by smtp104.rog.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jul 2012 13:12:16 -0700 PDT Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:12:15 -0400 From: Mike Jeays To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120717161215.5fbdc76b@europa> In-Reply-To: <1342554518588-5727712.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1342542757760-5727668.post@n5.nabble.com> <44obnel3ye.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <1342546151386-5727686.post@n5.nabble.com> <1342554518588-5727712.post@n5.nabble.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.24.4; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Nasty reference loop in login.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:12:22 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:48:38 -0700 (PDT) Jakub Lach wrote: > Initially dropped to single user mode, but when > I saw ED(1) I reconsidered and dusted off trusty > LiveCD :) > > Thanks. > > -- > View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Nasty-reference-loop-in-login-conf-tp5727668p5727712.html > Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ed is OK if you have access to another machine with internet access - the wiki article tells how to use it, and it isn't hard when you know how. With single-user mode only, not so easy... A very crude README that gives the basics, that is accessible in single user mode, might be quite useful. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 20:26:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AFFF106566C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:26:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63BD8FC17 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:26:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SrELS-0003A3-Fh for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:26:10 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:26:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1342556770479-5727716.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <20120717161215.5fbdc76b@europa> References: <1342542757760-5727668.post@n5.nabble.com> <44obnel3ye.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <1342546151386-5727686.post@n5.nabble.com> <1342554518588-5727712.post@n5.nabble.com> <20120717161215.5fbdc76b@europa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Nasty reference loop in login.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:26:11 -0000 Or vi in place. Really, it always surprises me there's no vi available in single user mode. vi 352k, ed 54k. And I bet some historical vi could be smaller still. ...but I have nothing against ed, I simply never memorized how to use it properly. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Nasty-reference-loop-in-login-conf-tp5727668p5727716.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 20:32:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA8E106566B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:32:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [77.86.213.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5332A8FC12 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:32:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.liukuma.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793DB1CC2C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:32:24 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 793DB1CC2C DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=liukuma.net; s=liukudkim; t=1342557144; bh=rkGZk5MnsjO/jMrFlSJf2EYHkL5xiTvZKgNBr2oYGnY=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; z=X-Virus-Scanned:=20amavisd-new=20at=20liukuma.net|X-DKIM:=20Sendm ail=20DKIM=20Filter=20v2.8.3=20www.liukuma.net=200C3761CC2B|Messag e-ID:=20<573041685D3E45C8839D64736A3696DD@Rivendell>|From:=20"Reko =20Turja"=20|To:=20|References:=20<1342542757760-5727668.post@n5.nabble.com>< 44obnel3ye.fsf@lowell-desk.lan><1342546151386-5727686.post@n5.nabb le.com><1342554518588-5727712.post@n5.nabble.com><20120717161215.5 fbdc76b@europa>=20<1342556770479-5727716.post@n5.nabble.com>|In-Re ply-To:=20<1342556770479-5727716.post@n5.nabble.com>|Subject:=20Re :=20Nasty=20reference=20loop=20in=20login.conf|Date:=20Tue,=2017=2 0Jul=202012=2023:32:18=20+0300|MIME-Version:=201.0|Content-Type:=2 0text/plain=3B=0D=0A=09format=3Dflowed=3B=0D=0A=09charset=3D"iso-8 859-1"=3B=0D=0A=09reply-type=3Doriginal|Content-Transfer-Encoding: =207bit|X-Priority:=203|X-MSMail-Priority:=20Normal|Importance:=20 Normal|X-Mailer:=20Microsoft=20Windows=20Live=20Mail=2015.4.3555.3 08|X-MimeOLE:=20Produced=20By=20Microsoft=20MimeOLE=20V15.4.3555.3 08; b=oEjfcOSyJsaJpLHHF+0lYyrwZ92YnK+AangwtuOgzaq5i8d7+y9kUXkSEC40odK/q mOYdY7pTx+EXAaLY54dwx2hFk6BsFXEqi9twRIX8qfkrn9ifH2CbYV1TUCmLfn8ZWq N9rWltVNA0BF79zFytQvwppDW5HsGzMcxQ0W6e5s= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id RjKMecptEScJ for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:32:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: from Rivendell (dsl-kmibrasgw1-fe47de00-175.dhcp.inet.fi [80.222.71.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0C3761CC2B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:32:19 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 0C3761CC2B Message-ID: <573041685D3E45C8839D64736A3696DD@Rivendell> From: "Reko Turja" To: References: <1342542757760-5727668.post@n5.nabble.com><44obnel3ye.fsf@lowell-desk.lan><1342546151386-5727686.post@n5.nabble.com><1342554518588-5727712.post@n5.nabble.com><20120717161215.5fbdc76b@europa> <1342556770479-5727716.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1342556770479-5727716.post@n5.nabble.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:32:18 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: Nasty reference loop in login.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:32:26 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: Jakub Lach Or vi in place. > Really, it always surprises me there's > no vi available in single user mode. If machine is mostly sane, why not just "mount -a" upon entering single user? -Reko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 20:44:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725D5106566B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 436678FC18 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:44:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SrEcl-0004TD-HA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:44:03 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:44:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1342557843526-5727720.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <573041685D3E45C8839D64736A3696DD@Rivendell> References: <1342542757760-5727668.post@n5.nabble.com> <44obnel3ye.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <1342546151386-5727686.post@n5.nabble.com> <1342554518588-5727712.post@n5.nabble.com> <20120717161215.5fbdc76b@europa> <1342556770479-5727716.post@n5.nabble.com> <573041685D3E45C8839D64736A3696DD@Rivendell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Nasty reference loop in login.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:44:04 -0000 That's substantial "if", no? But in this case, yes, I should have mounted fs maybe. But really didn't know what to expect. Thanks for help again. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Nasty-reference-loop-in-login-conf-tp5727668p5727720.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. 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[87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h9sm29395586wiz.1.2012.07.17.15.56.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:56:01 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120717235601.52aa6296@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <1342556770479-5727716.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1342542757760-5727668.post@n5.nabble.com> <44obnel3ye.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <1342546151386-5727686.post@n5.nabble.com> <1342554518588-5727712.post@n5.nabble.com> <20120717161215.5fbdc76b@europa> <1342556770479-5727716.post@n5.nabble.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Nasty reference loop in login.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 22:56:06 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:26:10 -0700 (PDT) Jakub Lach wrote: > Or vi in place. > > Really, it always surprises me there's > no vi available in single user mode. > There is /rescue/vi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 23:05:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B491065674 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:05:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98CA8FC08 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:05:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SrGq5-0000YB-15 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:05:57 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:05:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1342566357022-5727755.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <20120717235601.52aa6296@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <1342542757760-5727668.post@n5.nabble.com> <44obnel3ye.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <1342546151386-5727686.post@n5.nabble.com> <1342554518588-5727712.post@n5.nabble.com> <20120717161215.5fbdc76b@europa> <1342556770479-5727716.post@n5.nabble.com> <20120717235601.52aa6296@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Nasty reference loop in login.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:05:58 -0000 Good catch, totally missed it. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Nasty-reference-loop-in-login-conf-tp5727668p5727755.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 18 00:00:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 788051065673 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 00:00:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6538FC15 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 00:00:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3so1684440obb.13 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:00:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3pnAmUyUbR4AQl9JlZKF96GiwYMRpD9oe1pmJ3h3Ze8=; b=HhRkoi9QC/5LjYJdT04QErcLsMcEDzgwDHKBz5dnjbvsvxzYDbtcTetjejATYxFdLY YuvOhFPYYomvM2x6Cf1LeXpCsVp1vQbFGRPEa8nm4zTPvFqNitNJRlS5GEtq6a8b9XUd 4zK6hxPd2gmn8VhS8wYv1GDOf7V8S3wXRFFx0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=3pnAmUyUbR4AQl9JlZKF96GiwYMRpD9oe1pmJ3h3Ze8=; b=D095e/R2JE4FS/xiAfna4itfKtR3k+oE6E2b8uv/qayCVwYOjBNAsyEeUwiw7pzKCd gJ4b/8bbQrxDpmwXGb5YIJPNSMyidKJzWnKe5M6LnDPrHLU8PPE2y17pnEC55ZZtO7aL 58UmRahf5YrP53sUQ5c0/Qk7s2J75TJAU6lmSApYRFBw7qgU09vsUNdfgMPM57JY4Y3N mMEfOP5M8YQ+/seSPSmuDRTBhjpEWyt3515DaA98cWxBOr4FJEQQVbDEGAvhBAJeebmf PlknKc1GJ0FhVB8qtuOxz1g6b9FX3lTAfirtVmcIabzOWx842XvTqslkeetMRB2U0gQb cAqA== Received: by 10.182.31.102 with SMTP id z6mr6057520obh.66.1342569613740; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:00:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.125.70 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:59:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Eitan Adler Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:59:43 -0700 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?B?0JLQuNGC0LDQu9C40Lkg0KLRg9GA0L7QstC10YY=?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmitCHnKPxD1OSIoJgYUP8aw0CuI6sF4KlHkpjU4Guqr4vAoPPRF44f16acgxcfR260BCZo Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: How to donate code X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 00:00:14 -0000 On 17 July 2012 02:16, =D0=92=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B9 =D0=A2=D1= =83=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=86 wrote: > Hello, colleagues! > How would one propose some code to current branch? > I've made a little change to ifconfig ( a switch to display IPv4 > network masks in CIDR format instead of HEX) and want to suggest this > change to FreeBSD project. > Also i've created a PR with my patch describing what is done and for > what (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D169072&cat=3D), but > maybe there's some other way to somehow push this code for review by > FreeBSD developers? > Thank you a lot and sorry for noobish question :) The general advice is mail the patch to -hackers for review. If you don't get a reply or if people like it, submit a PR so it doesn't get lost. Be aware that the latency for some patches could be longer than you expect. :( FWIW "unified diff" format patches are much preferred. (diff -u) --=20 Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 18 07:11:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E8D1065672 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:11:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dk311990@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7392E8FC14 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eabm6 with SMTP id m6so444663eab.13 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 00:11:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GOaxpnXvyLVE6Fjsqe62PqRq8eMTCWXdSpRwu0/+aUw=; b=gUvUc6pdLPJ4skrp+3rrNGQ4rT5oE6vlZyYKwjJQKFDQ4DDT1+vXc+F91LH425yOnH X/iyjyJ7wrh8pvS8kBkeH/pnleAHsVmzBP5WfBDDoxiinQ9SGqqsjtCDS+CTJAbCONAh ps1xwPVPYP4PA5Wo3aF72A6VypSIf2supOorkko6ZGOzFw6QWV/NuByIm6q/eGkjX3U8 7yd3uHqxDUVVxLr+DCAI3xg9hsMFIh8T1tYqu7XXRKGcJB9o3SbaA1BHf+mRbujacJht bSKjlHa1NJqUsiIS0dlJBxvuRKcdX0nHVO3cN+6YcETqodKv0pzlbafqeW2qlhO5jW2g OK6A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.0.130 with SMTP id 2mr2387220eeb.22.1342595467395; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 00:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.99.14 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 00:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:41:07 +0530 Message-ID: From: Deepak Kumar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: determine the nic pairs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:11:09 -0000 Hi Enthusiast, I have a server which has around 20 nic interfaces. Some are connected port to port via cross cable and some are connected via a switch and few are not connected. (Let consider all are connected port to port) I want to find out the way so that I can determine the pairs efficiently. I assigned ip starting from 172.x.x.30 with netmask 255.255.255.0 I created as many sockets as there are interfaces with socket(AF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, IPPROTO_UDP) then I bind the all but one interfaces to the ip I gave using bind(sockfd, (struct sockaddr *)&in, sizeof(in)); where in is something like bzero(&in, sizeof(in)); in.sin_family = AF_INET; in.sin_port = htons(2074); in.sin_addr.s_addr = inet_addr("172.x.x.30+interfaceno"); and one left socket I did socket creation and using setsockopt I did int option = 1; setsockopt(sockfd[counter], SOL_SOCKET, SO_BROADCAST, &option, sizeof(option)); and do sendto(sockfd, arr, sizeof(arr), 0, (struct sockaddr *)&in, len); where in is bzero(&in, sizeof(in)); in.sin_family = AF_INET; in.sin_port = htons(2074); in.sin_addr.s_addr = inet_addr(172.x.x.255); Now I want to send the packet from one interface and who ever receive should be its partner. But when I do recvfrom for one socket it blocks and I am not able to implement timeout for it. select is not working as it need file discripter and socket call is returning struct socket. So how should I implement timeout in recvfrom or use there exist some equivalent of select for struct socket or any other way to implement this. PS: Ping is working fine in determining the pair but taking to much time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 18 09:19:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BBB106564A for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A39A8FC0C for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6I9JHWT004821; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:19:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6I9JHbK004818; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:19:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:19:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Paul Schmehl In-Reply-To: <35DA07557A36800645B39187@localhost> Message-ID: References: <35DA07557A36800645B39187@localhost> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:19:18 +0200 (CEST) Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: Apache vs. nginx X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:19:23 -0000 > I'm the admin for a small hobby website (Stovebolt.com - about 7 million > hits/mo). We're fixin to buy a new server, and since I have to start from > scratch (install FreeBSD and all the needed ports), I'm wondering if anyone > on this list has switched from Apache to nginx. it depends of your needs. with lot traffic website (your classify as that) it doesn't matter really. apache do some things that nginx doesn't, like .htaccess, no idea if you need them or not. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 18 09:53:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A18106564A for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:53:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corebug@corebug.net) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1BF58FC15 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:53:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl8 with SMTP id l8so1629183yen.13 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 02:53:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=DEWnyp5qhKb3OvO9Cg8Q9qwDHmy8o3TVBIrTqXyFDz4=; b=TrxDv0cnPqZ+hOIUVXF9GHcxW9OThxqEryQNnBSxSEXGW9ttG2g3tJlQYhK/gPgn7Q 2aqJ4BCiUbQovflxG0TrFOTkB2zABNHTfjpTcHYwbLeEibMrJwZQZosATxvZtLNJ+CSR uRNIM2KAud8Z0xJf3alAtngslEHGilvNP0VgC0YlrXSxhg+EzVnz6GZDtJfWGTl0uBSU TXbZivlsuW0lzeDY6VsMP52b9ZOpybYv4aMS/63+KJ1tFnki68/UbvyxR6j5wFZH84+G GeZKz8lerYqWEXKRaqQBqjQZRUKeWGzpi9Rd2YF520AeY+QDmEPAxM4/bn3ZOUujGSPk j+Ug== Received: by 10.66.84.129 with SMTP id z1mr3574352pay.4.1342605200816; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 02:53:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.255.70 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 02:53:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2a01:d0:8396::6923] In-Reply-To: References: From: =?UTF-8?B?0JLQuNGC0LDQu9C40Lkg0KLRg9GA0L7QstC10YY=?= Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:53:00 +0300 Message-ID: To: Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkDr08onFJCvev4SpkmCFQ6KTOcrQuo73kFBm13saYhyOofJ+BycGCPBij9r9NkjjO5ht4b Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: How to donate code X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:53:22 -0000 2012/7/18 Eitan Adler : > On 17 July 2012 02:16, =D0=92=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B9 =D0=A2= =D1=83=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=86 wrote: >> Hello, colleagues! >> How would one propose some code to current branch? >> I've made a little change to ifconfig ( a switch to display IPv4 >> network masks in CIDR format instead of HEX) and want to suggest this >> change to FreeBSD project. >> Also i've created a PR with my patch describing what is done and for >> what (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D169072&cat=3D), but >> maybe there's some other way to somehow push this code for review by >> FreeBSD developers? >> Thank you a lot and sorry for noobish question :) > > The general advice is mail the patch to -hackers for review. If you > don't get a reply or if people like it, submit a PR so it doesn't get > lost. Be aware that the latency for some patches could be longer than > you expect. :( I already realize that :( > FWIW "unified diff" format patches are much preferred. (diff -u) Okay, i'll rewrite this code under -current OS build and mail the "unified diff" patch to -hackers list. Thank you all people! > > -- > Eitan Adler --=20 ~~~ WBR, Vitaliy Turovets Systems Administrator Corebug.Net +38(093)265-70-55 VITU-RIPE X-NCC-RegID: ua.tv From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 18 10:54:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26E0106564A; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 10:54:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6008FC1A; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 10:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds11 with SMTP id ds11so1216526wgb.31 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 03:54:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=A7kfS8qCZWX7SvwVti+iaw+zE/ynvfd2eDKgCHaCy5A=; b=HK2m7NK1QJ28Kp8H1/r0VG34dWpGAK9DmMZiQTGKyQ/9WQhrhfRFfxK5pdadrV9mH5 gXDYuWLA22dAcz404ShIywta4fWPcs/KmEr4iuz8vZe/aVKALkLnnRcCPIXQEe5XUn99 SfkpZb/M5dpCtHps2jxlzW8g9RwOexeg2QiC3K87Eh/YPlYtaOyLGXusfCMWy4a+U6TY I0Jt2/1ZaxERBvPwoqQbALJVnSktm9VwdXz1FGYDm78FyNvusxFeBrl/g980l41NeWU8 hyu0K6tmErojXcz/g233/n6PJdchBIvnl4IavNcMAYh77XDEA9YX2Yz5yQkAYTIx/Ez3 M8KA== Received: by 10.180.84.104 with SMTP id x8mr5433629wiy.20.1342608868289; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 03:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.dg (41-132-92-160.dsl.mweb.co.za. [41.132.92.160]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id de10sm2239753wib.7.2012.07.18.03.54.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 18 Jul 2012 03:54:27 -0700 (PDT) From: David Naylor To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:53:22 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-STABLE; KDE/4.8.4; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2813538.HCfZfKfS31"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201207181253.26704.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.5.9 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 10:54:30 -0000 --nextPart2813538.HCfZfKfS31 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.5.9 have been uploaded to mediafire [2]. Th= e=20 packages for FreeBSD 10 use the pkgng* [3] format. =20 There are many reports that wine does not work with a clang compiled world (help in fixing this problem is appreciated as it affects quite a few users= ). The patch [4] for nVidia users is now included in the package and is run on installation (if the relevant files are accessible). Please read the installation messages for further information. Regards, David [1] MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.5.9,1.tbz) =3D=20 dddaceda7c0dedd03e5f8531d9826966 MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.5.9,1.txz) =3D=20 aec8afccdd6ac6928662d3be5f537195 MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd10/wine-fbsd64-1.5.9,1.txz) =3D=20 9436b443844ac8bf52d9ead2de55cf33 [2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64 [3] http://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng [4] The patch is located at /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh * pkgng support for nVidia patching should be working properly and using a= =20 mixed mode between pkgng and pkg also works --nextPart2813538.HCfZfKfS31 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAlAGlaYACgkQUaaFgP9pFrL3YACfbxt75U2hW/giJDIKS1G5Hchz bI4An188GL7t65BhrJolkVPphBLIG+Jm =oKVC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2813538.HCfZfKfS31-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 18 11:48:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57361106564A for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin.wilcox@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BB88FC15 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so2690167pbb.13 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 04:48:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=WNm6BBuX6EDj5i5CleT9a6krsPAaTG9hnSyLvn6Ou/M=; b=uD13E6sLPfUcznDUdn6nmUNEuzNzhfuSrirg0otb9rRnOub8lvzEqyh2ojo4Ez94br hXB8zu1jUh6EFBR05FRI/BBuMWAh7nEi9sAWIVQX4GYMkWvVG0O4HbH9W521wy9T3hn7 casUEmnqRcOJ7yv8Tkdl6rIYP5DPHy99T3Rhk6klOYjT8vLOgoSl0pJHFvRznfiWh438 vWlIGf5Guth8Vc9p1Qx5QmJNhAGFmdxvxzP7vQliDiBMROShDHPkhilre5cthtO3XcIm eeQUvzWzUtXkb9D2+6G2UMJY8vD+Q9VQR2900IssLuWE4MbLZ3sxv6sHk2gYciVqzqWb /xSQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.242.7 with SMTP id wm7mr6847729pbc.98.1342612124660; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 04:48:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.51.161 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 04:48:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.51.161 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 04:48:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <35DA07557A36800645B39187@localhost> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:48:44 -0400 Message-ID: From: Kevin Wilcox To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Paul Schmehl , FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: Apache vs. nginx X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:48:45 -0000 On Jul 18, 2012 5:19 AM, "Wojciech Puchar" wrote: >> >> I'm the admin for a small hobby website (Stovebolt.com - about 7 million hits/mo). We're fixin to buy a new server, and since I have to start from scratch (install FreeBSD and all the needed ports), I'm wondering if anyone on this list has switched from Apache to nginx. > > > it depends of your needs. This is a fantastic statement (I'm being serious, not facetious), because it really does. For specific purposes - serving static content with few bells and whistles, dedicated PHP application servers for custom apps and stuff like Drupal, I can't see ever going back to Apache. The nginx configs are too clean and too simple. For a large site with more complex authentication and access restriction needs that are handled by the web server, I wouldn't drift from Apache - not because I think nginx couldn't handle it but because I don't know if it could and because I am less comfortable with saying I did it properly with nginx than saying the same thing about Apache. kmw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 18 12:24:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2444A1065672 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA3B8FC0C for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eabm6 with SMTP id m6so562656eab.13 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 05:24:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=TobC/KjA7e2es+vZM+Ayp5RCX5ZUREYOSAGBCqCgY4c=; b=XHBYtZ1jIkX+UlD4N6xxScRctew2uGzAs1lCMtpQAMX5oNuLjqvtNXEH/oQlK4QI38 R5K9vGeRxy7pR9U4QI0MA7XlWM3fxzMaujzOSsGfu71wPXB9wVSyWhnV3bCzd+RYYTqi VRRWo8nTslWximTq7cwTMLUr7E4tC1cPMQe+/660P9f//XcTVMrzzsFaL0APHnOy86F9 EOS+fkrLilvQHzy+Mg9+xzmZiEvStwpl6NT/EL54KCi+IrzhmuyB26+LpfDZp1193csz bpptvCHOfGjoLVdRd4TpfrdsyQ6jKM5rfmv9HXASR01uJGxFDjsBbWFqChxikXec0XNc g2AA== Received: by 10.14.225.133 with SMTP id z5mr3493587eep.35.1342614289882; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 05:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w3sm35927613eep.2.2012.07.18.05.24.47 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 18 Jul 2012 05:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5006AB0E.30606@my.gd> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 14:24:46 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <35DA07557A36800645B39187@localhost> In-Reply-To: <35DA07557A36800645B39187@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmcSxAYkdBmkVeMACZbEYj8IFWF4CDofQtpIz+dyIT0dWJBVCkiaLamaM6csDVwIBrkhnR8 Subject: Re: Apache vs. nginx X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:24:52 -0000 On 7/17/12 4:40 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: > I'm the admin for a small hobby website (Stovebolt.com - about 7 million > hits/mo). We're fixin to buy a new server, and since I have to start > from scratch (install FreeBSD and all the needed ports), I'm wondering > if anyone on this list has switched from Apache to nginx. > > If you have, what has your experience been like? Was the change > relatively easy? (I'm not intimidated by technical details. I've been > running FreeBSD on these servers for about 12 years now.) Was the > performance better? (We've not been having any problems with Apache to > this point.) Is there sufficient support from addon apps to run a site > with a php-driven forum? > I have. 1/ regarding the difficulty of the switch It depends on whether or not you're running code parsing programs like CGI and PHP. It also depends on whether or not you're using apache rewrite rules. 2/ regarding performance I'm much more satisfied by nginx than I was by apache. I find it runs smoother, it's not vulnerable to slowloris... 3/ regarding functionality In constrast with Wojciech Puchar's email, I'd like to point out that while nginx doesn't support .htaccess files, you can still customize your vhosts to add authentication and such. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 18 12:45:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A7E106564A for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0C38FC15 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q6ICl2ev063084 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:47:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:47:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201207181247.q6ICl2ev063084@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:45:47 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 17 12:06:29 2012 > Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:02:19 +0200 (CEST) > From: Wojciech Puchar > To: Robert Bonomi > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? > > >> > >> > >>> Surely SpinRite is "more clever" than that, > >> i would bet otherwise. simple tools and free tools are always better > > > > You continue to demonstrate that you "don't know what you don't know". > > are you another sponsored by some "recovery tool" commercial producer? What I am is an information systems professional with 45 years experience. including 30 years with Unix, who does not suffer ignorant, ill-informed, and arrogant, fools gladly. You make pronouncements of your *opinions* as though they are God-given fact -- even on things which you _don't_ have actual knowledge. You're entitled to have opinions, *BUT* the "Gospel According to Wojciech" is -not- 'the answer' for everybody, in every situation. *IF* you ever learn that, realize that there _are_ other =legitimate= viewpoints on matters, and qualify your statements with things like 'in my opinion', 'this might help', 'have you considered trying' -- as opposed to dictating what the reader must do, *especially* when you have missed critical facts in the question you are responding to -- Then, and *ONLY*THEN*, are people likely to give your opinions about how to do things any serious consideration. Case in point, your "I would bet otherwise" -- an implicit admission you *don't* know how SpinRite actually works. How much hard cash, US dollars, do you have to 'put your money where your mouth is"? Alternatively, you can admit you were blowing bullshit -- that your words were merely uninformed speculation, with no actual basis in fact. As for my subject-expertise -- I have, personally, _written_ stand-alone code that directly interfaces with hard-controller disk chips -- for purposes of evaluating the condition of damaged hard-disks. I've had clients come to me for advice on data-recovery, having suffered catastrophic damage to their only copy of what was truly 'mission critical' data. (No, they weren't existing clients -- if they had been, proper back-up procedures would have been in place, and the disk crash would have been a 'non-event'.) I have successfully recovered _every_byte_ of data from a damaged "State of The Art Compression" compressed disk volume, using custom device-driver code that I wrote. I've had clients that decided it WAS 'worth it' to pay one of the 'kilobuck per megabyte of recovered data' (actual price) "Class 25 clean room" recovery services -- where the damage to the drive was such that *ANY* attempt to access anything on the drive would cause more damage. Using "'simple, free tools", like your 'dd' recommendation, would (a) not have been successful, and (b) *greatly* reduced what would be recoverable by the clean-room facility. Your assertation that "free tools are always better" is pure, unadulterated bullshit. For 'simple' situations, they _may_ be adequate, or may not. When there are various kinds of _serious_ problems, even -attempting- to use tools like 'dd' (or SpinRite, for that matter) can/will make things FAR worse. Drive disassembly and platter cleaning _must_ be the first t hing done in such situations. _For_the_price_, SpinRite provides an amazing level of functionality. circa 85-90% of what high-end professional tools costing 100x more can do. It's not a FUS, but it is incredible 'bang for the buck', and does things that *NO* Unix 'userland' application can do in reconstructing damaged data. SpinRite _will_ recover data in a lot of situations where the 'dd' approach is "less than effective". Situations where SpinRite is ineffective, _and_ the "clean room" approach is _not_ required, are rare. It's not perfect, it won't fix "everything", but it is an incredibly inexpensive step up (and a *LARGE* step up) from the 'dd' approach. If the 'dd' type approach you you recover 'what you need' that's great. If _not_, SpinRite should probably be the 'next step'. If it _doesn't_ work, the cost/time for trying it is 'inconsequential petty cash', elative to the cost of the _next_ approach. And, if it -does- work, it paid for itself, a hundred times over, by saving the cost of the really expensive approach. "Cheap insurance' even at several times the retail price. 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Looking forward hearing from you, Anton Konnov -- Country Manager Cell: +372-5543650 Landline: +372-7120566 Skype: anton.adcash Adcash OÜ Kaupmehe 7-A10 10114 Tallinn, Estonia VAT-ID: EE101470034 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 18 14:11:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20221065680 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 14:11:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0528FC08 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 14:11:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (webmail.dweimer.net [192.168.5.1]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6IEBPeU064498 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:11:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:11:25 -0500 From: dweimer To: Organization: dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: In-Reply-To: <764fd164b77f32257135e1ab4f4fb501@dweimer.net> References: <764fd164b77f32257135e1ab4f4fb501@dweimer.net> Message-ID: X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.8-rc Subject: Re: Invalid GPT backup header X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 14:11:33 -0000 On 2012-07-09 15:11, dweimer wrote: > I have had a few virtual machine installations come up with "gptboot: > invalid GPT backup header" error message while booting. (some > immediately on first boot after install) They still boot fine, and > run > without problems, but I would like to find a way to fix the problem. > Does anyone know how you can write a new GPT backup header to the > partition table. I have even gone to the extent of adding a second > virtual disk, using gpart to create a partition table and then add > new > partitions and setup bootstrap then use cpio to copy data over and > switched the drive SCSI IDs within the virtual machines configuration > to boot from the second drive instead. Still same error message when > booting off the new drive. I did however leave out the size option > when creating the last UFS partition so it may have filled to the end > and overwrote the backup GPT table. > > I have searched online for a solution to recreating the backup GPT > header from the main header, but I have been unable to find anything. > Not sure if I am missing something simple, if no one else has had > this > problem, or if others are just ignoring it since their system works > even with it? All the machines with the problem are VMware hosted > machines, some on ESX, and some on VMware Workstations. Just a quick update in case someone else runs into this and finds this thread, this problem maybe related to a quirk of some sort in the older version of VMware workstation I am running on my work laptop its running version 6.5 (can't get boss to approve upgrade as the other admins have just decided its better to test on the ESX servers instead of their local machines, which I don't agree with) I had an urgent need to use a this machine to put a temporary work around in place on another problem and used vmware converter to migrate it from my workstation to the ESX servers. No more invalid backup GPT message when booting the one copy on the ESX servers. I am going to manually copy the files for this VM to the version 8 workstation installation on my home machine and see if that one does or doesn't show the warning on boot, to attempt to better narrow down this cause. -- Thanks, Dean E. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:00:55 -0000 On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:47:02 -0500 (CDT) Robert Bonomi articulated: > > From: Wojciech Puchar > > > > >>> Surely SpinRite is "more clever" than that, > > >> i would bet otherwise. simple tools and free tools are always > > >> better > > > > > > You continue to demonstrate that you "don't know what you don't > > > know". > > > > are you another sponsored by some "recovery tool" commercial > > producer? > > What I am is an information systems professional with 45 years > experience. including 30 years with Unix, who does not suffer > ignorant, ill-informed, and arrogant, fools gladly. > > You make pronouncements of your *opinions* as though they are > God-given fact -- even on things which you _don't_ have actual > knowledge. You're entitled to have opinions, *BUT* the "Gospel > According to Wojciech" is -not- 'the answer' for everybody, in every > situation. *IF* you ever learn that, realize that there _are_ other > =legitimate= viewpoints on matters, and qualify your statements with > things like 'in my opinion', 'this might help', 'have you considered > trying' -- as opposed to dictating what the reader must do, > *especially* when you have missed critical facts in the question you > are responding to -- Then, and *ONLY*THEN*, are people likely to give > your opinions about how to do things any serious consideration. > > Case in point, your "I would bet otherwise" -- an implicit admission > you *don't* know how SpinRite actually works. How much hard cash, US > dollars, do you have to 'put your money where your mouth is"? > Alternatively, you can admit you were blowing bullshit -- that your > words were merely uninformed speculation, with no actual basis in > fact. > > As for my subject-expertise -- I have, personally, _written_ > stand-alone code that directly interfaces with hard-controller disk > chips -- for purposes of evaluating the condition of damaged > hard-disks. I've had clients come to me for advice on data-recovery, > having suffered catastrophic damage to their only copy of what was > truly 'mission critical' data. (No, they weren't existing clients -- > if they had been, proper back-up procedures would have been in place, > and the disk crash would have been a 'non-event'.) > > I have successfully recovered _every_byte_ of data from a damaged > "State of The Art Compression" compressed disk volume, using custom > device-driver code that I wrote. > > I've had clients that decided it WAS 'worth it' to pay one of the > 'kilobuck per megabyte of recovered data' (actual price) "Class 25 > clean room" recovery services -- where the damage to the drive was > such that *ANY* attempt to access anything on the drive would cause > more damage. Using "'simple, free tools", like your 'dd' > recommendation, would (a) not have been successful, and (b) > *greatly* reduced what would be recoverable by the clean-room > facility. > > Your assertation that "free tools are always better" is pure, > unadulterated bullshit. For 'simple' situations, they _may_ be > adequate, or may not. > > When there are various kinds of _serious_ problems, even -attempting- > to use tools like 'dd' (or SpinRite, for that matter) can/will make > things FAR worse. Drive disassembly and platter cleaning _must_ be > the first t hing done in such situations. > > _For_the_price_, SpinRite provides an amazing level of functionality. > circa 85-90% of what high-end professional tools costing 100x more > can do. It's not a FUS, but it is incredible 'bang for the buck', > and does things that *NO* Unix 'userland' application can do in > reconstructing damaged data. SpinRite _will_ recover data in a lot of > situations where the 'dd' approach is "less than effective". > Situations where SpinRite is ineffective, _and_ the "clean room" > approach is _not_ required, are rare. It's not perfect, it won't fix > "everything", but it is an incredibly inexpensive step up (and a > *LARGE* step up) from the 'dd' approach. If the 'dd' type approach > you you recover 'what you need' that's great. If _not_, SpinRite > should probably be the 'next step'. If it _doesn't_ work, the > cost/time for trying it is 'inconsequential petty cash', elative to > the cost of the _next_ approach. And, if it -does- work, it paid for > itself, a hundred times over, by saving the cost of the really > expensive approach. "Cheap insurance' even at several times the > retail price. I couldn't have said it better myself. Wojciech lives in his own little world, which is fine as long as he doesn't try to visit mine. He sounds like he works at a small Polish SMB, more commonly referred to as a SOHO in more developed countries. I have just blocked him so I don't have to read his TROLLish bullshit. The fact that he mentioned "scandisk" which Microsoft only released in Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition, Microsoft Windows 98 Standard Edition and Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition makes one wonder just how current he is with modern operating systems and techniques. He obviously has no idea what SpinRite is, how it works or even the concept of directly interfacing with hard-controller disk chips. For him, "dd" is state of the art. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. 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A Scan Copy of your Identity: Thanks, God bless MRS ROSEMARY ANDERSON(SECTARY IMF) Head, London Liaison office, (IMF) E-mail: innocentbenson142@yahoo.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 18 15:56:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867AA106564A; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:56:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3098FC15; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:56:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p57BCF9A7.dip.t-dialin.net [87.188.249.167]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q6IFukNQ079044; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:56:46 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q6IFwWT4088051; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:58:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6IFwM7f033708; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:58:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201207181558.q6IFwM7f033708@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Robert Bonomi From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:47:02 CDT." <201207181247.q6ICl2ev063084@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:58:22 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, postmaster@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:56:55 -0000 Hi Robert, cc questions@ cc postmaster@ (***) > What I am is an information systems professional with 45 years experience. Interesting reading that & your prior post. 'Edge of the track, & turn up the op. amps' has been an interesting technique for decades, I first read of it maybe 70's or 80's ? I bet some, eg in government or private espionage, & desperate incompetent bankers, & their employed service firms, probably had fun seeing what was possible. (Envy ;-) BTW I too wrote a recoverer way back, just for floppies http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/jhs/bin/public/valid/ Worked very well, recovered data while wearing media out. I ported it to FreeBSD, but it was never as good there, I never hacked BSD drivers to support it to do bit averaging if all CRCs failed. (***) Re.: Wojciech Puchar People could ask (cc'd) to block troll Wojciech Puchar. His blinkered noise pollutes too often, while too many have failed to reason with him, on too many subjects on questions@ & hackers@. I & someone on hackers@ already filter out his noise. http://berklix.com/~jhs/dots/.procmailrc.lists Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. 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LYNXIMGMAP:file://localhost/tmp/tmp9uiCav.html#Map4 6. http://inv2.com.ar/Skins/Components/verhtml.ashx?dG%3dF1%3aFt%2eGF-1Dmusl8bk%26LSov-mofO%40jjK5WKFB5%3dN1cfasN%2e%2eQAGTMuZ%2ba5%26Ttmo- 7. http://inv2.com.ar/Skins/Unsuscribe/do.aspx?OxPe%3dOep%40MeQ%3d8ru56YzItXjHTQrHks4%26%26b%2baZec%2bPn%3dGqS5n%40%40dBM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 01:06:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A001106564A for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 01:06:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DAEC8FC08 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 01:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SrfCX-0004Kr-NT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 18:06:45 -0700 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 18:06:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1342660005711-5728037.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <20120718110050.47457f46@scorpio> References: <64329.1342378317@tristatelogic.com> <20120715214823.679eb23d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120715162333.45b82082@scorpio> <20120715234817.fcfb1489.freebsd@edvax.de> <201207171151.q6HBpq8a039504@mail.r-bonomi.com> <201207181247.q6ICl2ev063084@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120718110050.47457f46@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 01:06:53 -0000 -offtopic- (...) > like he works at a small Polish SMB, more > commonly referred to as a SOHO in more > developed countries. Not really sure what you wanted to imply, as "SMB" looks like americanism to me. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/fsck-on-FAT32-filesystem-tp5727015p5728037.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 02:51:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2092106566B; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 02:51:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559A18FC16; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 02:51:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q6J2r3p0070058; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 21:53:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 21:53:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201207190253.q6J2r3p0070058@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com, jhs@berklix.com In-Reply-To: <201207181558.q6IFwM7f033708@fire.js.berklix.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, postmaster@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 02:51:46 -0000 > Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:58:22 +0200 > From: "Julian H. Stacey" > Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? > > Hi Robert, cc questions@ cc postmaster@ (***) > > > What I am is an information systems professional with 45 years > > experience. > > Interesting reading that & your prior post. > 'Edge of the track, & turn up the op. amps' > has been an interesting technique for decades, I first read of it maybe > 70's or 80's ? I bet some, eg in government or private espionage, & > desperate incompetent bankers, & their employed service firms, probably > had fun seeing what was possible. (Envy ;-) All I'm going to say is: 1) There's a _reason_ the gov't requires hard drives with anthing higher than 'somewhat' classified data on them to be =physically= destroyed before leving the secure area. 2) As of 2007, 'over-writing' data (regardless of how many times) is *not* sufficient, any more, for _any_ military purposes. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 06:42:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AED4106566C for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 06:42:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kron24@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C0C8FC08 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 06:42:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl8 with SMTP id l8so2893525yen.13 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:42:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LiPnnBu4ZWevIXnn5h+OhJbgvhAwcJWsELZ8i6uq2Os=; b=UmSTpCw9aT84pA7+gFfOYw2XGf7Iy/xAzCPiPl+Qac56x7ZMrRIIv/mIfryY9T+ceV TFVrgnZFJOIOpt6x+ZcRmcC4nt/1+16JOsW9kLg4aBZYap4RbPikU/QE+IFR+KoHvJO3 ZW05dAHW1br6mrJwFOgLAx/Bpt0r3jSqzTe4sohVcLdGh3aDKCwur3NFD9Y+2doNe29i Rfsp/u7xFWAF0gPu5NCODgmLHG9ADgyvMSUzrOBYPV9ekH13v2nqbPUAI+xAgLI2WnuI k4euqu0fXVcekkBXIfOcaFl+Q8gVPonMAuWNSvsm7Ob1W1tkfMy9fN9R4NR45ugAZRVn ovyg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.10.164 with SMTP id j4mr4391215igb.13.1342680124391; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.141.81 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:41:59 +0200 Message-ID: From: Vaclav Kadlcik To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 06:42:05 -0000 Hi, since there has been various issues building LibreOffice from ports lately and not everyone can or wants follow all the patches flying around, I'd like to share that the Linux binary build runs fine for me. I downloaded Linux' x86 tar package, did tar xf to get RPMs and finally: for i in *rpm; do rpm2cpio $i | cpio -ivd; done That created opt/libreoffice3.5. You can move where you like and start it using libreoffice3.5/program/soffice. (I'm tracking 9-STABLE with Linux compatibility enabled it this matters.) May this help someone lazy or impatient like me... Oli From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 07:04:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3BD106566B for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:04:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40258FC12 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gamma.lan.locolomo.org (gamma.lan.locolomo.org [192.168.0.33]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0BF201C0841 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:55:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5007AF61.4090207@locolomo.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:55:29 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Help solving the sysadm's nightmare X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:04:27 -0000 Hi: I have inherited a problem that is no cause for envy, the previous administrators had no idea what they were doing, so problems with a permission denied would be solved by chown -R 777 /whatever! Needless to say, it's a mess, and ofcourse everything is "critical" there is no room for interruption of service. Now, I have no idea which processes actually require access to those files, what privileges these processes run with and which files are actually executable or just plain files. What I know is that lots of files are on samba shares and lots of files are used by uniface9 application, but I don't know much about uniface or if this is actually executed on the client or on the server. At this moment my project is to migrate servers with these permissions to new servers, but those who prepared the OS have maintained the permissions from the older version because it's easier than actually investigating or understanding what's going on and find a solution. *sigh* So, how can I - determine if files are actually unix executables or just plain files (or windows executables)? - determine which users actually need read or write access to these files? the second is what I think is the most difficult, I need some lsof daemon to log access... Thanks for any suggestions. Erik -- M: +34 666 334 818 T: +34 915 211 157 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 07:52:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3250106566B for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:52:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB9B8FC16 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6J7qs5o058739 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:52:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q6J7qs5o058739 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1342684374; bh=E+tKWe7aAeegIkebtbJsd3yCgGtvmWO4XtOpfJJ4F3w=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=fkrNd3nefTgJecSCXvuBdrWQCC0bv6lZ9inJI1YabUWJkdX+NNr1PDShNFILAu7Wy JyC8u5f5BS2BY0XeUKgdYD4ZdXW76seu8huP9UbJIRdMoQzdl9K7boE4eWUUr4DuyT MUUagbn5yqOug4v9/H+tMI9b4Y6fytLbKF1SxH7Y= Message-ID: <5007BCCD.3030403@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:52:45 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= References: <5007AF61.4090207@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <5007AF61.4090207@locolomo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigCECD6A6BC4F6F3925DA0EBD5" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.5 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_ALL,DKIM_SIGNED,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help solving the sysadm's nightmare X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:52:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigCECD6A6BC4F6F3925DA0EBD5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 19/07/2012 07:55, Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: > So, how can I >=20 > - determine if files are actually unix executables or just plain files > (or windows executables)? file(1) should help. > - determine which users actually need read or write access to these fil= es? This is in most cases entirely a local policy matter. As in: you write up a proposal for how access control policy should be implemented and get it signed off by your managers before applying it. You'll need to present things with rational justifications: something along the lines of: Only the web-dev team and root (sys-admins) need write access to the doc-root www-data pseudo user (the UID apache runs as) needs read access to doc-root > the second is what I think is the most difficult, I need some lsof > daemon to log access... If you enable system accounting, I believe the detailed logs should show you all of the fileio broken down by user. Note that on a busy server, system accounting can generate a *large* amount of data, and it is likely to affect performance, so use with care. See lastcomm(1), sa(8), accton(8), acct(5) Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigCECD6A6BC4F6F3925DA0EBD5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAHvNUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwUSACdHboinXsBxLtGLpkLvszubRad shYAn3MNGGaFD5QBogOnvVtChZAbEAc4 =ymt9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigCECD6A6BC4F6F3925DA0EBD5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 08:12:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A272106564A for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:12:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEC98FC0A for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:12:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6J8C56p007431; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:12:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6J8C5iJ007428; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:12:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:12:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= In-Reply-To: <5007AF61.4090207@locolomo.org> Message-ID: References: <5007AF61.4090207@locolomo.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:12:05 +0200 (CEST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help solving the sysadm's nightmare X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:12:15 -0000 > administrators had no idea what they were doing, so problems with a > permission denied would be solved by chown -R 777 /whatever! Needless to say, great. rm -rf /whatever would be even better! > it's a mess, and ofcourse everything is "critical" there is no room for > interruption of service. > > Now, I have no idea which processes actually require access to those files, > what privileges these processes run with and which files are actually > executable or just plain files. i can only help you with base system and ports permissions, and /var and /etc just look how it should be > What I know is that lots of files are on samba shares and lots of files are > used by uniface9 application, but I don't know much about uniface or if this > is actually executed on the client or on the server. look at samba config to check as what user directories are accessed. set it as such user and chmod 700 is enough. > At this moment my project is to migrate servers with these permissions to new > servers, but those who prepared the OS have maintained the permissions from > the older version because it's easier than actually investigating or > understanding what's going on and find a solution. *sigh* > > So, how can I > > - determine if files are actually unix executables or just plain files (or > windows executables)? man file > - determine which users actually need read or write access to these files? depends on software lsof will not help you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 08:14:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A031065670 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:14:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37558FC08 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:14:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6J8EImM007443; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:14:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6J8EIoR007440; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:14:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:14:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jakub Lach In-Reply-To: <1342660005711-5728037.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: References: <64329.1342378317@tristatelogic.com> <20120715214823.679eb23d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120715162333.45b82082@scorpio> <20120715234817.fcfb1489.freebsd@edvax.de> <201207171151.q6HBpq8a039504@mail.r-bonomi.com> <201207181247.q6ICl2ev063084@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120718110050.47457f46@scorpio> <1342660005711-5728037.post@n5.nabble.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:14:18 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:14:23 -0000 >> developed countries. > > Not really sure what you wanted to imply, > as "SMB" looks like americanism to me. as well as SOHO. As not the first time, some people here when lacking arguments say "i work for larger company". "We have more servers in one place". Esp. second is nopt something to be proud about. more and more such people, and complete newbies or "IT specialists" dominate this forum. sad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 08:15:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D55106564A; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:15:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4ADD8FC08; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:15:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6J8FH25007451; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:15:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6J8FHqQ007448; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:15:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:15:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Robert Bonomi In-Reply-To: <201207190253.q6J2r3p0070058@mail.r-bonomi.com> Message-ID: References: <201207190253.q6J2r3p0070058@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:15:17 +0200 (CEST) Cc: jhs@berklix.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, postmaster@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:15:21 -0000 > 1) There's a _reason_ the gov't requires hard drives with anthing higher > than 'somewhat' classified data on them to be =physically= destroyed > before leving the secure area. no. for modern hard drives it was already proved that dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/disk bs=1m is enough to make data unreadable. for very old drives it may not From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 08:18:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F09D1065670 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:18:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8A28FC12 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:18:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6J8IhsH007470; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:18:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6J8IhbU007467; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:18:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:18:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Robert Bonomi In-Reply-To: <201207181247.q6ICl2ev063084@mail.r-bonomi.com> Message-ID: References: <201207181247.q6ICl2ev063084@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:18:44 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:18:46 -0000 > entitled to have opinions, *BUT* the "Gospel According to Wojciech" is -not- > 'the answer' for everybody, in every situation. *IF* you ever learn that, Seems like you have 45 years of experience in words. nothing more. Aggression is normal today from such people, that have "good position" in some companies and fear anyone could read any other than "established" opinions. That's all. Still I already see FreeBSD future is to get f....d up completely, as such people tend to dominate such a forum. The question is how long. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 08:28:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C78106564A for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arifbman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B028FC1A for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:28:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3so4426105obb.13 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 01:28:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FrVVx8FRkjHi2epvIBgEr5VuXFTNsxilSsq2WQHFYF8=; b=zCKI7rLoh2kU4d444IOmWre0YIciljHD9Z8Vupmshgn+dRXgXnkaweN9Ry2/7cv6HJ n6mZLKrlBqjDRWmHFDOlJqTy51omlM4OEbHXCivQPnHCmazyrpUO9fHmO8aQ1iRieseb IDvYqUTkO6Ol4ZnDgk7PZ9jCO0xdCbDgi9+olT8+uMWRSshBXldS9dn+UaVgDKQLtc7V r67YxNzASnSW+H/BdR/2KveI7sHYt1/x5timP1jqWbBO+Jf/Z7AUU7Kxzt0cc3T/8Q+/ F6Mu/0vhiOJJVCHjr2prRK+qX25zZxrPAI9labvYc8OuEUiCrKt815BwThBrrEJ7GovJ dOkw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.18.134 with SMTP id w6mr1180271oed.56.1342686490717; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 01:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.43.33 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 01:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 15:28:10 +0700 Message-ID: From: Arif Budiman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Huawei E173 modem doesn't work on FreeBSD 9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:28:11 -0000 Hi Folks, I'm failed to access E173 modem on FreeBSD 9.0 using serial port. Yes, I got information from the web that this device is not supported yet by the default driver, and the u3g driver need to be updated. ( http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/usb-159919-Patch-for-HUAWEI-E173-u3g-umodem-td4716191.html). I already follow all the instruction but unfortunately still failed. Till now i'm stuck with this device. I turn to Ubuntu server, the modem works well there. Bellow is output of usbconfig: # usbconfig ugen0.1: at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=SAVE ugen1.1: at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=SAVE ugen2.1: at usbus2, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=SAVE ugen3.1: at usbus3, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=SAVE ugen4.1: at usbus4, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=SAVE ugen4.2: at usbus4, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON ugen1.2: at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=LOW (1.5Mbps) pwr=ON # usbconfig -d 4.2 dump_device_desc ugen4.2: at usbus4, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON bLength = 0x0012 bDescriptorType = 0x0001 bcdUSB = 0x0200 bDeviceClass = 0x0000 bDeviceSubClass = 0x0000 bDeviceProtocol = 0x0000 bMaxPacketSize0 = 0x0040 idVendor = 0x12d1 idProduct = 0x1c05 bcdDevice = 0x0102 iManufacturer = 0x0002 iProduct = 0x0001 iSerialNumber = 0x0000 bNumConfigurations = 0x0001 Do you have any suggestions guys? thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 08:41:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9DF0106566C for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpnwork@yandex.ru) Received: from forward1.mail.yandex.net (forward1.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:602::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3932E8FC0A for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:41:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp3.mail.yandex.net (smtp3.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.103]) by forward1.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id D405C12420AE for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:41:06 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1342687266; bh=XVXm8eINKsY6MCR/ECPeb9943zhhcymCT854MUmID0w=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OhRt9vs9KxB3ru3XhTDUlbqXOPhBcKztHsOznrd/iGAU68z7lEOFpSXcLNOo9amvS 2oB6wXdrO1ov2MPHq0tnDk2OleyeV3rq8DEN1mO1HOjp+dCuvPSz0rK83wlREgmQHL lIDaur/cTpu0VpHFfqzFKnGql/WworJbSqhcgspg= Received: from smtp3.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id C0F921BA0317 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:41:06 +0400 (MSK) Received: from 86-102-24-175.xdsl.primorye.ru (86-102-24-175.xdsl.primorye.ru [86.102.24.175]) by smtp3.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id f4JiKk8m-f5JuUoM5; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:41:06 +0400 X-Yandex-Rcpt-Suid: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1342687266; bh=XVXm8eINKsY6MCR/ECPeb9943zhhcymCT854MUmID0w=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=J09ue5L9+3ceNePihYYVKw3qimGorPvHok0/TXyD3h1vIi9qz8KNIobpsp5bbaBWU RVL94jETxKGoC2GRC3/1kpOZvUpn3AVul/uRY3DiRF/5NMepCBqX/ueafUdF9ksk5X nkP2+JgJ+jrNbI26k9MKpR5Ftsok4RfMvZ24IG7A= Message-ID: <5007C81D.9090507@yandex.ru> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 19:41:01 +1100 From: from_mars User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.6esrpre) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/10.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120717145613.20783z1jrv0xapyc@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: "Twitter.com is loading slowly" after updating to Firefox 13.0.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:41:08 -0000 18.07.2012 4:01, Wojciech Puchar пишет: >> and the other running 9.0-STABLE. After updating Firefox from 12.0 to >> 13.0.1, whenever I access twitter.com, I can log in but after that a >> message appears saying that "Twitter.com is loading slowly", and the >> site is practically unusable - clicking on any of the links has no >> effect. >> > i don't think it is freebsd related question. > > anyway - use firefox 10.0.0.5-esr from ports. +1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 09:09:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B761065672 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [94.23.254.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58728FC16 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:09:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (mr129166.cri.univ-rennes1.fr [129.20.129.166]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 18404FAA2CCB; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:09:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mr129166 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4264150EB; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:09:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:09:47 +0200 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=92=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B9_=D0=A2=D1=83?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=86?= Message-ID: <20120719110947.01cf088d@mr129166> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: How to donate code X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:09:56 -0000 Le Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:53:00 +0300, Виталий Туровец a écrit : Hello, > > The general advice is mail the patch to -hackers for review. If you > > don't get a reply or if people like it, submit a PR so it doesn't > > get lost. Be aware that the latency for some patches could be > > longer than you expect. :( > > I already realize that :( The secret is to not expect anything :) > > FWIW "unified diff" format patches are much preferred. (diff -u) > > Okay, i'll rewrite this code under -current OS build and mail the > "unified diff" patch to -hackers list. I remember vaguely a thread on hacker@ about ifconfig and netmask, you may want to check it : http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/hackers/2011-04/msg00078.html (IPV4 non-CIDR netmasks are valid). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 10:02:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB228106564A for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:02:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corebug@corebug.net) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B9A8FC08 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so4481430pbb.13 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 03:02:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=cSOn2cjEsvSBmhqDXzaDONgRtrXeJeaGsdbYvgWh72M=; b=HzeWFFHtelPwx07OqxWFJBXvPfrxqeXvmiI+OLwGWJU+vA2azNLXg98QIbCbgG/X4i YEZ/kPGRMbaruofFXgbMs6X8BBWk25JB/oLk2PsT5dmaxE+dmDN55+ChGAeJuZGHlfQ2 IcNvquZvJdUEy3ffVS0jmqNidkzWH7KwoV0C1vYXSw1FYZn27rPORBDhHt5d58gKa70s hRLLwZyzdcRQ8AonEeFYFy+yZAb0W4KbZ6RiTdnzOjS5CAh9udf43X6UvxiKhndC3a2Q fNl7cFeYUnYnQlKWQ4pG82Io8olYDNH56pUylwRfkc9J75/BD5DvNCCJM7zAninzyg2l bP6A== Received: by 10.68.232.66 with SMTP id tm2mr3989659pbc.118.1342692178099; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 03:02:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.255.70 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 03:02:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2a01:d0:8396::6923] In-Reply-To: <20120719110947.01cf088d@mr129166> References: <20120719110947.01cf088d@mr129166> From: =?UTF-8?B?0JLQuNGC0LDQu9C40Lkg0KLRg9GA0L7QstC10YY=?= Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:02:37 +0300 Message-ID: To: Patrick Lamaiziere Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk9bKXoOIDWci9nMXez/3nLKareD91Jxd/PyV4cm1hfxTGMEOT9Q74OZySV1FdlrZzhfI+N Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: How to donate code X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:02:58 -0000 2012/7/19 Patrick Lamaiziere : > Le Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:53:00 +0300, > =D0=92=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B9 =D0=A2=D1=83=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2= =D0=B5=D1=86 a =C3=A9crit : > > Hello, > >> > The general advice is mail the patch to -hackers for review. If you >> > don't get a reply or if people like it, submit a PR so it doesn't >> > get lost. Be aware that the latency for some patches could be >> > longer than you expect. :( >> >> I already realize that :( > > The secret is to not expect anything :) > >> > FWIW "unified diff" format patches are much preferred. (diff -u) >> >> Okay, i'll rewrite this code under -current OS build and mail the >> "unified diff" patch to -hackers list. > > I remember vaguely a thread on hacker@ about ifconfig and > netmask, you may want to check it : > > http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/hackers/2011-04/msg00078.= html > > (IPV4 non-CIDR netmasks are valid). > The thread you mentioned was about dotted decimal notation and i'm trying to add !CIDR! notation e.g. 1.1.1.1/32 :) --=20 ~~~ WBR, Vitaliy Turovets Systems Administrator Corebug.Net +38(093)265-70-55 VITU-RIPE X-NCC-RegID: ua.tv From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 10:22:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E551106566B for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167A78FC0C for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Srnsd-0008QI-Hx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:22:47 +0200 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:22:47 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:22:47 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:22:36 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <201207181247.q6ICl2ev063084@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120718110050.47457f46@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:13.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/13.0.1) Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:22:58 -0000 Jerry seibercom.net> writes: > ... > I couldn't have said it better myself. Wojciech lives in his own little > world, which is fine as long as he doesn't try to visit mine. He sounds > like he works at a small Polish SMB, more commonly referred to as a > SOHO in more developed countries. I have just blocked him so I don't > have to read his TROLLish bullshit. Hi Jerry, while I respect your personal decision to /dev/null Wojciech, it seems to me that you are firing with a big gun and actually hurting yourself. If you join a public list you must be prepared to hear opinions that are different from yours, controversial, . These opinions, valid or not, give you an understanding of "what is going on" in the field of interest. Otherwise, you may run the danger of building a wall around yourself. While it is not a case here, I have seen few people on other lists to do the same just because they were not able to comprehend a topic discussed, and in frustration they killfiled the person involved. Similarly, all cry babies who for the same reasons want to ban/moderate out/ whatever people from a list irritate me as well. There is an old saying that 'you should not enter the kitchen if you can not stand the heat". So, if you can not change it, relax and enjoy it :-) jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 10:49:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3530D106566B for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:49:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932528FC08 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:49:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6JAnoEP015476; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:49:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6JAnoDl015473; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:49:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:49:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: jb In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201207181247.q6ICl2ev063084@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120718110050.47457f46@scorpio> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:49:50 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:49:53 -0000 > Otherwise, you may run the danger of building a wall around yourself. everyone should judge by his/her own brain which opinions are right. Actually in every moment i try to encourage EVERYONE to turn on his/her brain that we all have but rarely use. To be ever able to use ones brain properly all "widely known truth", "standard practices" etc.. should be forgotten at least for a moment. Mantras are always against clear thinking and understanding. The most important repeated mantra i am righting is that FreeBSD (or any Free unix) should be "easier to newbies". This already killed linux long time ago, NetBSD too, and going to kill FreeBSD. Most of "newbies" are not the ones that are likely to learn anything. They want click-click interface to install and run something so they can add "FreeBSD knowledge" to their CV. They can do ONLY harm to FreeBSD. Some get hired and results in problems described in thread "Help solving the sysadm's nightmare" for the man hired after them.. > While it is not a case here, I have seen few people on other lists to do > the same just because they were not able to comprehend a topic discussed, and > in frustration they killfiled the person involved. it's still nothing wrong to add a rule to redirect someones (mine) mail to /dev/null, but the way they do this: - showing whole world they do this - showing whole world their .procmailrc (so happy they finally learnt procmail?) - performing personal attacks every time they disagree. Doesn't look like serious people's behavior. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 10:56:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0681106566B for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:56:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s15.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s15.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 849768FC1A for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:56:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP315 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s15.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 03:56:00 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [76.182.104.150] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([76.182.104.150]) by BLU0-SMTP315.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 03:56:00 -0700 Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3WdBwZ3n8Jz2CG62 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 06:55:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 06:55:57 -0400 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: References: <201207190253.q6J2r3p0070058@mail.r-bonomi.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2012 10:56:00.0272 (UTC) FILETIME=[15266100:01CD659D] Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:56:07 -0000 On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:15:17 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar articulated: > > 1) There's a _reason_ the gov't requires hard drives with anthing > > higher than 'somewhat' classified data on them to be =physically= > > destroyed before leving the secure area. > > no. for modern hard drives it was already proved that > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/disk bs=1m > > is enough to make data unreadable. > > for very old drives it may not Would you be so kind as to point out the proof of that statement? Please provide an address or location where the documentation supporting that statement can be found. By the way, "NOT READABLE" is not equal to "UNRECOVERABLE". -- Carmel ✌ carmel_ny@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 11:10:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCBC1065672 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:10:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D81C8FC19 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:10:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6JBAUMV015548 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:10:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6JBAU2M015545 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:10:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:10:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201207190253.q6J2r3p0070058@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:10:31 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:10:32 -0000 >> for very old drives it may not > > Would you be so kind as to point out the proof of that statement? sorry but i didn't save that article on hard drive. So no proof if you don't believe me i've actually read it. The main point is that you have - track - intra-track gap - finite precision of writing head positioning. When you write on track second time, head isn't positioned exactly as before so very thin stripe of previous recording remain. With sophisticated enough tools you may recover it, requiring like 10 times smaller head than normal. With modern drives size of magnetic domains are larger than this imperfection. If drive record properly this "stripes" of leftover recording are just too small to be stable. Even if it would, no hardware exist to do this, except maybe scanning electron microscope which would take years to scan whole surface of disk IMHO. Not sure if it can "see" surface magnetization as i don't precisely know how such microscope works. But i know it needs some time to scan even tiny thing. > Please provide an address or location where the documentation > supporting that statement can be found. By the way, "NOT READABLE" is > not equal to "UNRECOVERABLE". > yes i know the difference. Finally i am not sure if "bulk erases" can actually erase drives, for sure they can destroy disk electronics so disk appears cleared. The field needed to clear modern magnetic media are just enormous. They are enormous under normal operation of disk, but power is small as track width is defined in nanometers. If it would be my data to be erased i would just do dd if=/dev/zero of=disk bs=.. or if really paranoid then after this dd if=/dev/urandom of=disk bs=.. or if very paranoid then will just put that drives into fireplace, which would heat them over curie point which would definitely demagnetize whole media. more sure than bulk eraser, and definitely secure, for free. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 11:11:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0323A10657E8 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:11:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA088FC08 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6JBB1lE015566; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:11:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6JBB1Bh015563; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:11:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:11:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Vaclav Kadlcik In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:11:01 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:11:03 -0000 > ports lately and not everyone can or wants follow all the patches > flying around, I'd like to share that the Linux binary build runs > fine for me. > > I downloaded Linux' x86 tar package, did tar xf to get RPMs > and finally: > for i in *rpm; do rpm2cpio $i | cpio -ivd; done > That created opt/libreoffice3.5. You can move where you like > and start it using libreoffice3.5/program/soffice. > > (I'm tracking 9-STABLE with Linux compatibility enabled it this > matters.) > > May this help someone lazy or impatient like me... what's wrong in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-3 ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 11:23:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF58106566B for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:23:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-gh0-f182.google.com (mail-gh0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422478FC14 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbz22 with SMTP id z22so3108700ghb.13 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 04:23:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=MPErjjGY8LbRMgBnWzhRUJHSTjhqxgoI0LNvT/r2BEA=; b=lp0kzrBnaUiz+EEi9RHWcfZXy/RIXx1n2MqzlOlsVapfvPj46v8ggkL4TPyVXUAbkf bnLYFn/++Qjz+9rkUkpUNOFNwuUIp2EivWZnmpSM2IB9nwWfhjzpB5942AKldfvSMS86 tQUof5PzrA7Pin+MqP2IBoyxnYEV3ULIlA+6lGw2DOtka8u7rTcTIQWGr0e8V9a38mrR FlPJjWXjfQDxUvX1WBFa9Mq0VS5gKxls+VuyhzxsSF5CxqXg6al1fcT7kQWGcbHpXfjE NEKyk/f6KkRWeKCW3Ic9H6H3gjsuxUyEGhWv1Ot4EyZLS95F2wTYUIlffoTOWuDzXnK1 d8Rw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.220.194 with SMTP id py2mr1018690igc.15.1342697032528; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 04:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.43.83.5 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 04:23:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:23:52 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: rDAMU52twFexTQ9LIEGTYgVyn7M Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlbveRGMJHiiIuEmh63w8JKjAVQ1C6FegtMOPszqCQ02mzD1/viWkxlIt3I82EpvVx4Z8b4 Subject: Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:23:54 -0000 On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> ports lately and not everyone can or wants follow all the patches >> flying around, I'd like to share that the Linux binary build runs [...] >> >> May this help someone lazy or impatient like me... > > > what's wrong in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-3 > Oracle From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 11:26:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB4C106564A for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:26:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A158FC12 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:26:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhfs35 with SMTP id s35so3111179yhf.13 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 04:26:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=aljGsOtLB7HytNPx8FbNjQOVqgy98exslmy8bI7+xyQ=; b=am3E4DoNNnJXSTQJ9JQZDJsKoDvD/KN9BqiMHxdt7obxZMsbrapTI57lCM/A8KuF43 wxe3u4LZEy6YFzq+jr+vSfeycyb7W+rukyDpnq0SZL8OJLivhPkwXn7UxLJwzg8Rmpv7 TEe+GMLZpceryPNvsFJxGtXv80mfJ39q2gkPtTsjYSwY8R1/m48yXw35akMjjiG3EBP3 r1AP072cA8bCz05mA6M6AI5Muh0ifw47pTw9iChXCEy8TS5D1ZjPjJ6WDD6UXCfq/AGt fgkR1gl5dG1x4ETnBzpZCEH5nVoTbr/eBXoV9r4U9DpbDdHJzpMzoUQjhjf9tRJIUhxR Z4yw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.213.106 with SMTP id nr10mr4778355igc.58.1342697173425; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 04:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.43.83.5 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 04:26:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:26:13 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5n8YDf_O8IkJWWWg5wKI3o5KQwI Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkmUyiitRzN74R0UFSRJhRunPeR9gRkBt3TkJrAI4cCGoE9/H6TtBtAGKx+71lOy52AYlxS Subject: Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:26:14 -0000 On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 2:41 AM, Vaclav Kadlcik wrote: > Hi, > > since there has been various issues building LibreOffice from > ports lately and not everyone can or wants follow all the patches > flying around, I'd like to share that the Linux binary build runs > fine for me. > > I downloaded Linux' x86 tar package, did tar xf to get RPMs > and finally: > for i in *rpm; do rpm2cpio $i | cpio -ivd; done > That created opt/libreoffice3.5. You can move where you like > and start it using libreoffice3.5/program/soffice. > > (I'm tracking 9-STABLE with Linux compatibility enabled it this > matters.) > > May this help someone lazy or impatient like me... > Oli Thanks for sharing this! OO should have been replaced by LO a long time ago on FBSD From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 11:27:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50EE1065673 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:27:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68138FC0C for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SrotV-0008HW-Pk for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 04:27:45 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 04:27:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1342697265790-5728126.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20120715234817.fcfb1489.freebsd@edvax.de> <201207171151.q6HBpq8a039504@mail.r-bonomi.com> <201207181247.q6ICl2ev063084@mail.r-bonomi.com> <201207181558.q6IFwM7f033708@fire.js.berklix.net> <201207190253.q6J2r3p0070058@mail.r-bonomi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:27:47 -0000 This topic went totally off, but anyway there are interesting bits, do you say that e.g. Gutmann method is totally unneeded? -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/fsck-on-FAT32-filesystem-tp5727015p5728126.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 11:37:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665C4106564A for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:37:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s2.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s2.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C268FC16 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:37:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP198 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s2.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 04:36:20 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [76.182.104.150] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([76.182.104.150]) by BLU0-SMTP198.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 04:36:19 -0700 Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3WdCq56w9gz2CG62 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:36:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:36:17 -0400 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: References: <201207181247.q6ICl2ev063084@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120718110050.47457f46@scorpio> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2012 11:36:19.0319 (UTC) FILETIME=[B703A870:01CD65A2] Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:37:26 -0000 On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:49:50 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar articulated: > > Otherwise, you may run the danger of building a wall around > > yourself. > > everyone should judge by his/her own brain which opinions are right. > > Actually in every moment i try to encourage EVERYONE to turn on > his/her brain that we all have but rarely use. > > To be ever able to use ones brain properly all "widely known truth", > "standard practices" etc.. should be forgotten at least for a moment. Citation needed & examples please. > Mantras are always against clear thinking and understanding. I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "mantras". > The most important repeated mantra i am righting is that FreeBSD (or > any Free unix) should be "easier to newbies". Citation needed. > This already killed linux long time ago, NetBSD too, and going to > kill FreeBSD. Really, I must have missed the funeral. > Most of "newbies" are not the ones that are likely to learn anything. > They want click-click interface to install and run something so they > can add "FreeBSD knowledge" to their CV. That statement goes beyond stupid. At some point, everyone is a "newbie". If your statement is to be taken at face value, then the majority of new users would, according to you, never bother to learn anything. You might want to try and back that up with some verifiable facts. Furthermore, in regards to your "click-click interface" statement, the Ubuntu operating system is gaining traction everyday. Everyone is not locked into the c.1990's. > They can do ONLY harm to FreeBSD. Citation needed. > Some get hired and results in problems described in thread "Help > solving the sysadm's nightmare" for the man hired after them.. > > > While it is not a case here, I have seen few people on other lists > > to do the same just because they were not able to comprehend a > > topic discussed, and in frustration they killfiled the person > > involved. I have witnessed your posts on Dovecot being ridiculed as nothing more than TROLLing. > it's still nothing wrong to add a rule to redirect someones (mine) > mail to /dev/null, but the way they do this: > > - showing whole world they do this > - showing whole world their .procmailrc (so happy they finally learnt > procmail?) > - performing personal attacks every time they disagree. "procmail" -- really? While everyone is free to use what ever solution they find advantageous, I would certainly not recommend "procmail". Procmail is widely used on Unix-based systems and stable, but no longer maintained. Many users have switched to maildrop. Personally, I prefer "sieve" with Dovecot. Just a personal preference and yet far more robust. > Doesn't look like serious people's behavior. Your actions mimic that of a TROLL. You make blanket statements sans any verifiable proof or documentation; i.e. "dd" being the ultimate disk recovery utility or its ability to absolutely, positively erase any HD without any possibility of it being recovered. I can understand why informed users might block you. I think I will be following their lead. It seems that you have managed to annoy, infuriate and offend users on at least two lists, this one and Dovecot, and I am sure several others as well. At least you have a perfect batting average. -- Carmel ✌ carmel_ny@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 11:43:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8091065765 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:43:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD238FC1D for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:43:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2012 07:43:45 -0400 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BPB71790; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:43:45 -0400 Received: from 209-6-86-84.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.86.84]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2012 07:43:46 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20487.62193.129172.908943@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:43:45 -0400 To: Vaclav Kadlcik In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:43:46 -0000 Vaclav Kadlcik writes: > since there has been various issues building LibreOffice from > ports lately and not everyone can or wants follow all the patches > flying around, I'd like to share that the Linux binary build runs > fine for me. Excellent work. 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Call 0203 535 7930 or click here to arrange a free no obligation demonstration http://emarketing.emailjunkies.co.uk/private/jcO4/mVI/cW7G7t6/unsubscribe/16656593 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 11:45:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197FB106566C for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:45:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmx@ross.cx) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05568FC1A for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:45:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [92.76.69.32] (helo=michael-think) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.74) (envelope-from ) id 1SrpAi-0006y0-8u; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:45:32 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Jakub Lach" References: <20120715234817.fcfb1489.freebsd@edvax.de> <201207171151.q6HBpq8a039504@mail.r-bonomi.com> <201207181247.q6ICl2ev063084@mail.r-bonomi.com> <201207181558.q6IFwM7f033708@fire.js.berklix.net> <201207190253.q6J2r3p0070058@mail.r-bonomi.com> <1342697265790-5728126.post@n5.nabble.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:45:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1342697265790-5728126.post@n5.nabble.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.3/15152/Thu Jul 19 04:05:24 2012) Cc: Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:45:39 -0000 Am 19.07.2012, 13:27 Uhr, schrieb Jakub Lach : > This topic went totally off, but anyway there are interesting bits, > do you say that e.g. Gutmann method is totally unneeded? > You may be interested in the epilogue to Gutmann's paper: http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/secure_del.html#Epilogue Quote: "For any modern PRML/EPRML drive, a few passes of random scrubbing is the best you can do. As the paper says, "A good scrubbing with random data will do about as well as can be expected". This was true in 1996, and is still true now." Nice picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MFM_AFM_JANUSZ_REBIS_INFOCENTRE_PL_HDD_MAGNETIC_MEMORY_EVOLUTION.png > -- > View this message in context: > http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/fsck-on-FAT32-filesystem-tp5727015p5728126.html > Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 12:02:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 125C01065686 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C38A8FC15 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6JC2DMv015781; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:02:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6JC2CLn015778; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:02:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:02:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Alejandro Imass In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:02:13 +0200 (CEST) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:02:20 -0000 >> >> >> what's wrong in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-3 >> > > Oracle oracle donated everything to apache foundation. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 12:04:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5C1106566B for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:04:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DDE98FC1B for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:04:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6JC4O1C015788 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:04:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6JC4NBH015785 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:04:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:04:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201207181247.q6ICl2ev063084@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120718110050.47457f46@scorpio> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:04:24 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:04:25 -0000 >> can add "FreeBSD knowledge" to their CV. > > That statement goes beyond stupid. At some point, everyone is a You proved well enough about what "stupid" means. esp your mail "carmel_ny@hotmail.com" that's truly a mail address that System Admin should be proud of ;) At least you don't worry about backups. Hotmail (or gmail or else) do archive everything you ever sent or received so you don't fear data loss. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 12:18:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617A1106564A for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:18:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155EF8FC0C for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:18:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhfs35 with SMTP id s35so3166719yhf.13 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 05:18:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=V0zMqtOTK1rr2eY49dX34GWnwMEF+XL1Vg/BeUcaU5A=; b=ll6IAcJ/29tn3phqBX8g/ORrO1kYUobpqRB50twBO1JOdSCZVrNI5T74v2U1tipP76 UOQEI+9YgKZeg51mQMGRMGnbfA1H7VMCPOq7lgNDxPcyv/1Uzpv5bhQiIPD4iT4r2+7y 5Z+MJau2KnbdWDPV3ms8Siret/FEYdNzyWYln8N++RdyZXUYJWFy7lKkOIOJtQOWmOM/ IDRlJIG1kLUNIIGASFN8Ah0P2RYTa0lrhEJxWji8ZIZIt7pzYNE4JteZoBfVQi+i067G ipdGTMeYJgoX0Py+Dwd2N/42v9PMpyVlbeEGVPNL5omtjfPgmtwQYcvjX428mdpFO7wq 9gLA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.173.69 with SMTP id bi5mr1160375igc.38.1342700298356; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 05:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.43.83.5 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 05:18:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:18:17 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: WxGW2JxDP0D1j2tEbMm1k4qgfKc Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkHm744t52o98T/Hr6WWH5ImQzzUNYr2kMhQl39DnuNDB99TBtDcT0U9GRReYSAodwXR4cA Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:18:19 -0000 On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> >>> >>> what's wrong in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-3 >>> >> >> Oracle > > > oracle donated everything to apache foundation. > Yes, but not before creating a big mess, stagnating development and forcing the core team out of Oracle to create LO and I guess [pure speculation] that in the end it backfired and Larry (aka "we'll simply take it") was left with no resources to maintain it and had no choice but to let it go, maybe in an attempt to save face, who knows. 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[93.127.96.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g6sm1055455bkg.2.2012.07.19.05.22.17 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 05:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5007FBF8.5050001@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 15:22:16 +0300 From: Alexander Kapshuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120626 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:22:20 -0000 On 07/19/12 09:41, Vaclav Kadlcik wrote: > Hi, > > since there has been various issues building LibreOffice from > ports lately and not everyone can or wants follow all the patches > flying around, I'd like to share that the Linux binary build runs > fine for me. > > I downloaded Linux' x86 tar package, did tar xf to get RPMs > and finally: > for i in *rpm; do rpm2cpio $i | cpio -ivd; done > That created opt/libreoffice3.5. You can move where you like > and start it using libreoffice3.5/program/soffice. > > (I'm tracking 9-STABLE with Linux compatibility enabled it this > matters.) > > May this help someone lazy or impatient like me... > Oli > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > libreoffice-3.5.5 Just upgraded libreoffice to version 3.5.5 using ports. Didn't have any trouble installing is, nor upgrading it. :; uname -a FreeBSD box2 9.0-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Jun 12 01:47:53 UTC 2012 root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 :; pkg_info -x libreoffice Information for libreoffice-3.5.5 What sort of errors did you encounter while building the package using the ports? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 12:38:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55503106566B for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:38:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2D78FC08 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:38:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Srq0D-0000sr-JW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:38:45 +0200 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:38:45 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:38:45 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:38:32 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <201207190253.q6J2r3p0070058@mail.r-bonomi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:13.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/13.0.1) Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:38:49 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> writes: > ... This should clear up some confusion. Will it ? Disk Wiping One Pass Is Enough http://www.anti-forensics.com/disk-wiping-one-pass-is-enough ... --- http://www.anti-forensics.com/disk-wiping-one-pass-is-enough-part-2-this-time-wi th-screenshots ... What about magnetic force microscopy? ... Sans Computer Forensics on Magnetic Force Microscopy ... Secure Deletion of Data from Magnetic and Solid-State Memory by Peter Gutmann (35 pass wipe originated from Mr. Gutmann) ... --- ... So why are there so many recommendations for multiple passes during disk wiping? ... "Another method I use quite a bit is to just hook a drive up to a Linux system or pop a bootable Live CD in the machine and boot into a Linux environment to use the "DD" command. It can be as simple as this: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/[DISK HERE] " Enjoy it ! jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 12:47:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BB31065670 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:47:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3838FC0C for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:47:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2012 08:47:00 -0400 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BPB77679; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:46:58 -0400 Received: from 209-6-86-84.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.86.84]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2012 08:46:58 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20488.449.501982.409683@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:46:57 -0400 To: Alexander Kapshuk In-Reply-To: <5007FBF8.5050001@gmail.com> References: <5007FBF8.5050001@gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:47:07 -0000 Alexander Kapshuk writes: > Just upgraded libreoffice to version 3.5.5 using ports. Didn't have any > trouble installing is, nor upgrading it. > What sort of errors did you encounter while building the package using > the ports? Check the last few weeks of office@ and ports@; there are multiple people (including me) reporting problems, especially with 9.recent and -Current. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 12:49:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45546106566C for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:49:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander.kapshuk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC22F8FC0A for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:49:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcje9 with SMTP id je9so2466896bkc.13 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 05:49:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rmtCGQ04aZofkAE7eAEBNdAwbpJi9EJDrD5N7JQGht8=; b=qIMpdJhKoORnnYr+0WHWFztEqnd0dPW3AGj9xO0bj54txM/gGjMqHKkUUJXaem6dgf DBCBhOe1NANn3AcS65qAoeNK36ozeUANFQx68jl9J0PQ5GxvS5Lsbi9X6K6JFOC50lvp k5/+91TpQurRmGbAXNQyTUDfix0P12IfG52ty8aMMCx0/AmQ94d1c6jqrbee98muRjQI daeQ0hTlXv40V5rgYypmOLx+G4P2GCbLROnG4QAZRb7uws6OOlzNUus+f84ous7iBn/9 yKOJDv4LhIXBIgdFhoHIoo5OK1JpUuxEX9fAPy+au9DcRwN+dqIMXW8rUwSe/PdP2n/B YxeQ== Received: by 10.204.154.73 with SMTP id n9mr895240bkw.113.1342702152761; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 05:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (93-127-96-97.static.vega-ua.net. [93.127.96.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 14sm1100269bkq.12.2012.07.19.05.49.11 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 05:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50080246.3090500@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 15:49:10 +0300 From: Alexander Kapshuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120626 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Huff References: <5007FBF8.5050001@gmail.com> <20488.449.501982.409683@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <20488.449.501982.409683@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:49:14 -0000 On 07/19/12 15:46, Robert Huff wrote: > Check the last few weeks of office@ and ports@; there are multiple > people (including me) reporting problems, especially with 9.recent and > -Current. Robert Huff Could be because I'm running the RELEASE version then. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 13:08:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30011065675 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:08:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7526F8FC15 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:08:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SrqSr-00032l-Ml for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 06:08:21 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 06:08:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1342703301697-5728161.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <201207171151.q6HBpq8a039504@mail.r-bonomi.com> <201207181247.q6ICl2ev063084@mail.r-bonomi.com> <201207181558.q6IFwM7f033708@fire.js.berklix.net> <201207190253.q6J2r3p0070058@mail.r-bonomi.com> <1342697265790-5728126.post@n5.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:08:22 -0000 Follow up is even more interesting than epilogue, especially: "Another problem with the article is the fact that a magnetic force microscope, which is a scanning probe microscope, is nothing like an electron microscope, and yet the article repeatedly refers to using an electron microscope to try and recover data (the same mistake has also been pointed out by others). So saying "the chances of recovery of any amount of data from a drive using an electron microscope are negligible" is quite true, in the same way that saying "the chances of recovery of any amount of data from a drive using an optical microscope are negligible" is true" And DiskStroyer kit made me chuckle. If I comprehend it correctly, that doesn't make Gutmann method obsolete in principle, it only means that those passes were tailored at (various) old technology, and on modern drives could be bit overkill and just as good as random scrubs. That's still makes a robust procedure, even If overkill and dated (which isn't exactly bad thing). Thanks for replies. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/fsck-on-FAT32-filesystem-tp5727015p5728161.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 14:10:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411DE1065672 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:10:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C073F8FC08 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:10:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA08E6579; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 15:11:54 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=jIr+vniVKBx5 bIZYIgLyFKBYKR8=; b=nW4NG1DckY9bevdaFcqdByCoNbv/EMY/tu3gCP1twSCQ AQ6ihA8YbxN8qI4ngaK99I5q60SA5lJq8Lx+rNE5iJ4DMNQ24tIDxo/tNL1hsvi8 S9zu/CeAS/9ea1g04moiXv0zEc5r+GCC47yJKGAJLfLDayNi0KcirqJj8rYvJBU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=ypS09r f1TOeVvKIMQKRN3BQDWC35oXmZn3olitPDwjxH+MwFksvsKHRqfrgwvpj0yOahuO WtrAEsrKc8Cq9xY8HAfXuz8rk2w1AZLKoyfdGZWtlmeTD6rxzu7KiXSomdZqZQ0q 8fsRtyqAmYgwFRbAiQccGyjjN2YiZEqU1E6WM= Received: from [192.168.2.11] (unknown [93.89.81.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6FE65E6578; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 15:11:54 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <50081545.3020306@cran.org.uk> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 15:10:13 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <201207190253.q6J2r3p0070058@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jhs@berklix.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:10:17 -0000 On 19/07/2012 09:15, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > no. for modern hard drives it was already proved that > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/disk bs=1m > > is enough to make data unreadable. > > for very old drives it may not How about data stored in remapped sectors, or any flash cache? The Secure Erase command (https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_Secure_Erase) may clear all that data too, but without any guarantees it's better to destroy the disk than risk leaving classified data on it. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 14:12:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A36C1065670 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:12:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444B88FC15 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:12:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nber9.nber.org (nber9.nber.org [66.251.72.178]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6JDrwOK040169 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:53:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:53:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201207190253.q6J2r3p0070058@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20120719 #8589823, check: 20120719 clean Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:12:54 -0000 On Thu, 19 Jul 2012, Carmel wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:15:17 +0200 (CEST) > Wojciech Puchar articulated: > >>> 1) There's a _reason_ the gov't requires hard drives with anthing >>> higher than 'somewhat' classified data on them to be =physically= >>> destroyed before leving the secure area. >> >> no. for modern hard drives it was already proved that >> >> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/disk bs=1m >> >> is enough to make data unreadable. >> >> for very old drives it may not > > Would you be so kind as to point out the proof of that statement? > Please provide an address or location where the documentation > supporting that statement can be found. By the way, "NOT READABLE" is > not equal to "UNRECOVERABLE". I hesitate to intervene in this dispute, but my posting "Can intelligence agencies recover overwritten data?" at http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/overwritten-data-gutmann.html will iluminate this discussion. dan feenberg > > -- > Carmel ? > carmel_ny@hotmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 14:18:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093BC106566B for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ADD78FC19 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:18:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6JEIMZE016811; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:18:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6JEIMWp016808; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:18:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:18:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Bruce Cran In-Reply-To: <50081545.3020306@cran.org.uk> Message-ID: References: <201207190253.q6J2r3p0070058@mail.r-bonomi.com> <50081545.3020306@cran.org.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:18:23 +0200 (CEST) Cc: jhs@berklix.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:18:30 -0000 > > How about data stored in remapped sectors, or any flash cache? how about being able to restore random 0.1% of former user data. Not really useful. Flash cache is quite recent idea, nobody serious would like to scrap such a drive instead of reuse. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 14:23:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792A71065672 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083CF8FC0A for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:23:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-22-218.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.22.218]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6743CC44; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:23:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q6JENP2Q002061; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:23:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:23:25 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Erik =?ISO-8859-1?Q?N=F8rgaard?= Message-Id: <20120719162325.10e71a8f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <5007AF61.4090207@locolomo.org> References: <5007AF61.4090207@locolomo.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help solving the sysadm's nightmare X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:23:33 -0000 On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:55:29 +0200, Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: > Now, I have no idea which processes actually require access to those=20 > files, what privileges these processes run with and which files are=20 > actually executable or just plain files. For differentiating "files' nature", use "file " to identify if it's an executable, a script (which _may_ or _may not_ need +x attributes), or just some random text or binary file. Regarding access to files: You could first determine which programs are installed on that server and create a "testing bed" for them, e. g. using jails on a separate system. Then you can use tools like "lsof" to see what files are accessed, and in which matter (read, read/write). At this occassion, you can also examine what files have been installed to the system by this program's installer process, and what attributes they do _properly_ have. You can find information about _what_ is installed _where_ and _how_ in the package lists of each port. You can use them to compare currently installed stuff with how it should be. Regarding the OS, there's another helpful mechanism to investigate: Check out the files /etc/mtree which can be used to automatically compare the definitions with their current (probably malformed) real counterparts. Also see "man mtree" for details. > At this moment my project is to migrate servers with these permissions=20 > to new servers, but those who prepared the OS have maintained the=20 > permissions from the older version because it's easier than actually=20 > investigating or understanding what's going on and find a solution. *sigh* I think the most safe method would be if you install a new server from scratch, install the PROGRAMS as needed, and then first copy the DATA with _default_ permissions and check if everything works. If you see that the new system works properly, you can easily switch over from the old system. If you have successfully done it, take the box to the "admin" who was "responsible" for it and drop it onto his head, so he can recover from "professionality". :-) > So, how can I >=20 > - determine if files are actually unix executables or just plain files=20 > (or windows executables)? As I said, file, mtree, pkg-plist. > - determine which users actually need read or write access to these files? Talk to the users (or better to their superiors, or anyone who is partially able to talk about what they're doing). User access should be separated and kept inside /home. There are very few cases where this method is not sufficient. Maybe you can find such a case and prepare a _proper_ solution to deal with it. If it's about what _programs_ need to access, check their documentation and configuration files. > the second is what I think is the most difficult, I need some lsof=20 > daemon to log access... I think it's quite hard to determine requirements "in vivo". The more restricted your testing bed is, the more precise are your findings and therefor your answers. Have as few variables as possible. On a server actually running, using a malformed configuration and many altered settings (where you can't even properly tell _what_ has been altered!), testing will be quite hard. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 14:26:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14AF7106564A for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:26:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC398FC0A for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:26:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6JEQvgX016860; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:26:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6JEQvsG016857; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:26:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:26:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Daniel Feenberg In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201207190253.q6J2r3p0070058@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:26:57 +0200 (CEST) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:26:59 -0000 > agencies recover overwritten data?" at > > http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/overwritten-data-gutmann.html at first - it should be asked "can agencies recover your data without being overwritten" first. just use geli(8) then second problem is even less problem. Finally use geli (or similar method) ALWAYS, no matter if you have highly important data, naked girls photos or just games. Just to say NO to any government agencies that terrorize you using your own money. At least in Poland you are not required by law to provide any passwords. Encryption is legal. At second - the basic claim that overwriting 1 with 1 differs from overwriting 0 with 1 at magnetization level is quite a proof of lack of understanding physics. Hint: magnetic hysteresis. What hard drive manufacturers want is to use magnetic material with largest hysteresis so difference between one and zero is highest. Can all paranoid here finally put their hard drives to fire so they will heat over curie point, and then - end that offtopic? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 14:57:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C38106566C for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:57:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22668FC08 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:57:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-22-218.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.22.218]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4ED92467D; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:57:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q6JEvfR3002212; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:57:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:57:41 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Wojciech Puchar Message-Id: <20120719165741.fe03c904.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <201207190253.q6J2r3p0070058@mail.r-bonomi.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Daniel Feenberg , FreeBSD Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:57:50 -0000 On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:26:57 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > agencies recover overwritten data?" at > > > > http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/overwritten-data-gutmann.html > > at first - it should be asked "can agencies recover your data without > being overwritten" first. Sure, because it's stored on Facebook & in the Cloud. :-) > Finally use geli (or similar method) ALWAYS, no matter if you have highly > important data, naked girls photos or just games. Just to say NO to > any government agencies that terrorize you using your own money. > > At least in Poland you are not required by law to provide any passwords. > Encryption is legal. That depends on local legislation. As you said, it's legal in Poland, but it's not in the UK anymore, if I understood it correctly. Related article, I thought I'd share it with the list: http://falkvinge.net/2012/07/12/in-the-uk-you-will-go-to-jail-not-just-for-encryption-but-for-astronomical-noise-too/ It also contains a link to the actual law. > Can all paranoid here finally put their hard drives to fire so they will > heat over curie point, and then - end that offtopic? Why pollute the environment with fire? What's wrong with a good old-fashioned hammer session, executed on the disk platters? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 14:58:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D8F106566C for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:58:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7038FC21 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:58:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6JEwdaK016991 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:58:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6JEwdKC016988 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:58:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:58:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:58:39 +0200 (CEST) Subject: lpd+samba question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:58:40 -0000 is there any simple way to get data about workstation that prints using lpd from samba? what i need is to get IP/name of workstation that queued a print job to lpd subsystem through samba. or is the only way to change everything to print to lpd directly using lpd protocol? quite a bit of work but possible. I want to do accounting, not just how many pages are printed on each printer (done), but WHO printed it. No problem for local user, but not with samba. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 15:14:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F397A106564A; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 15:14:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA698FC0C; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 15:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SrsQY-0001kz-Qp; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:14:08 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SrsQY-0001RE-Mp; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:14:06 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6JFE6i3083699; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:14:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q6JFE6FU083698; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:14:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:14:06 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120719151406.GA83677@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: zfs tuning on ia64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 15:14:15 -0000 Most of http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSTuningGuide is for i386 and amd64. I'm using zfs on ia64 r238540. Not sure how much of the advice given apply in my case. I have: # grep ZFS /var/run/dmesg.boot ZFS filesystem version: 5 ZFS storage pool version: features support (5000) # zpool upgrade -v |tail 23 Slim ZIL 24 System attributes 25 Improved scrub stats 26 Improved snapshot deletion performance 27 Improved snapshot creation performance 28 Multiple vdev replacements For more information on a particular version, including supported releases, see the ZFS Administration Guide. # zpool list NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CAP DEDUP HEALTH ALTROOT tank 33.8G 148K 33.7G 0% 1.00x ONLINE - # zpool status pool: tank state: ONLINE scan: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM tank ONLINE 0 0 0 da1 ONLINE 0 0 0 da2 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors # # dmesg|grep memory real memory = 6442450944 (6144 MB) avail memory = 6279823360 (5988 MB) # sysctl -a |grep vm.kmem vm.kmem_map_free: 1551581184 vm.kmem_map_size: 26427392 vm.kmem_size_scale: 4 vm.kmem_size_max: 0 vm.kmem_size_min: 0 vm.kmem_size: 1578090496 # Do the vm.kmem tunables look reasonable? Thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 15:52:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED66106566C for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 15:52:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from gw16.lax01.mailroute.net (lax-gw16.mailroute.net [199.89.0.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380D88FC08 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 15:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gw16.lax01.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA53A5BC24A; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 15:48:45 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by MailRoute Received: from gw16.lax01.mailroute.net ([199.89.0.116]) by localhost (gw16.lax01.mailroute.net.mailroute.net [127.0.0.1]) (mroute_mailscanner, port 10026) with LMTP id Jo7MBR0PH5Wj; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 15:48:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by gw16.lax01.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00ECA5BC3CD; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 15:48:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A54DA27B0; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:48:38 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Alejandro Imass References: x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.19.10.5; tzolkin = 5 Chicchan; haab = 8 Xul Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:48:38 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Alejandro Imass's message of "Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:18:17 -0400") Message-ID: <86y5mfiwfd.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Wojciech Puchar , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 15:52:47 -0000 >>>>> "Alejandro" == Alejandro Imass writes: Alejandro> Yes, but not before creating a big mess, stagnating Alejandro> development and forcing the core team out of Oracle to create Alejandro> LO and I guess [pure speculation] that in the end it Alejandro> backfired and Larry (aka "we'll simply take it") was left Alejandro> with no resources to maintain it and had no choice but to let Alejandro> it go, maybe in an attempt to save face, who knows. Repeat story with Hudson (Jenkins) and MySQL (MariaDB) and OpenSolaris (Illumos). The only good thing they seem *not* to have screwed with is VirtualBox. Maybe they haven't discovered they own it yet. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 16:10:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E2E106564A for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1F48FC0C for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 67590 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2012 16:10:29 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2012 16:10:29 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:vbr-info; s=50083175.xn--30v786c.k1207; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=n9qQ5xiM8OI1GMbSPqdU2t+iqEfysVbbr/3arCoYsrA=; b=pEnvq4Vrg6XGVcUXAry+FZXA55y/CQvAFmeEHMCCktdDAOGxw8XP1JCzsBI1Dp+YAYdjySiDgWV1g5gMCKWwxiExYmENmDC8pNhggfumfux5D7JNQn282MQl0TjVxmHymZYNWpWMhZXQp43Ru4500NDpyPdfbnqusPqvVBJfvF4= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Date: 19 Jul 2012 16:10:07 -0000 Message-ID: <20120719161007.62763.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <5007FBF8.5050001@gmail.com> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: alexander.kapshuk@gmail.com Subject: Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:10:31 -0000 >What sort of errors did you encounter while building the package using >the ports? The first problem is that it now demands clang-devel, which conflicts with chromium which still wants regular clang. Any idea how likely it is that chromium will build if I tell it to use clang-devel? R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 16:15:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1396A1065670 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:15:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708298FC0A for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:15:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6JGFcFF017449; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:15:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6JGFUCH017446; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:15:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:15:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "Randal L. Schwartz" In-Reply-To: <86y5mfiwfd.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: References: <86y5mfiwfd.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:15:38 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Alejandro Imass , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:15:40 -0000 > > The only good thing they seem *not* to have screwed with is VirtualBox. not really. The "backend" part of virtualbox is great. The frontend with is UUIDS for everything, XML and other trash is plain terrible. But still - nothing better exist for the need now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 16:31:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00BFF1065670 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:31:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from fmailer.gwdg.de (fmailer.gwdg.de [134.76.11.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FE38FC16 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:31:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de ([134.76.8.60]) by mailer.gwdg.de with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Srsvn-0003QE-VS; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 17:46:24 +0200 Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 17:46:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Konrad Heuer To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Level: / X-Spam-Report: Content analysis: 0.0 points, 6.0 required _SUMMARY_ X-Virus-Scanned: (clean) by exiscan+sophie Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lpd+samba question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:31:54 -0000 I didn't try by myself, but what about something like print command = /usr/bin/lpr -P%p -J"%J" -U"%I" -r %f in smb.conf? I'm sorry to say that you additionally probably have to change /usr/src/usr.sbin/lpr/common_source/ctlinfo.c near line 87 to #define OTHER_USERID_CHARS "-_." /* special chars valid in a userid */ and to recompile lpd: cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/lpr make clean make install At less I've to do so to make the dot "." a valid character within a user name. Hope this helps and best regards Konrad Heuer GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, kheuer2@gwdg.de On Thu, 19 Jul 2012, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > is there any simple way to get data about workstation that prints using lpd > from samba? > > what i need is to get IP/name of workstation that queued a print job to lpd > subsystem through samba. > > or is the only way to change everything to print to lpd directly using lpd > protocol? quite a bit of work but possible. > > I want to do accounting, not just how many pages are printed on each printer > (done), but WHO printed it. No problem for local user, but not with samba. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 16:36:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D718A1065689 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:36:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD6E8FC18 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:36:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6JGaYHA017519; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:36:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6JGaYSv017516; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:36:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:36:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Konrad Heuer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:36:34 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lpd+samba question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:36:37 -0000 > I didn't try by myself, but what about something like > > print command = /usr/bin/lpr -P%p -J"%J" -U"%I" -r %f > > in smb.conf? > > I'm sorry to say that you additionally probably have to change > > /usr/src/usr.sbin/lpr/common_source/ctlinfo.c > > near line 87 to > > #define OTHER_USERID_CHARS "-_." /* special chars valid in a userid */ > > and to recompile lpd: > > cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/lpr > make clean > make install > This is exactly what i asked for. Thank you very much for help. 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(blu0-omc4-s20.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E458FC18 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 12:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP108 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s20.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 20 Jul 2012 05:23:13 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [116.202.143.222] X-Originating-Email: [bourne.identity@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([116.202.143.222]) by BLU0-SMTP108.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 20 Jul 2012 05:23:10 -0700 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:55:21 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2012 12:23:12.0055 (UTC) FILETIME=[6DF2DC70:01CD6672] Subject: How to get Huawei EC1561 USB modem working under FreeBSD 8.2 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 12:24:20 -0000 Hello all, I earlier had a Huawei EC1261-based USB modem which used to connect smoothly to the internet under FreeBSD 8.2 using the u3g module. For some reasons, I have had to switch to another provider (MTS) who swapped the Huawei EC1261-based USB modem with a Huawei EC1561-based USB modem. And my FreeBSD system cannot connect to the internet anymore. Here are the contents of my ppp.conf (I assume authkey means password) : default: set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command allow users bourne set device /dev/cuaU0.0 set speed 115200 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \ \"\" AT OK-AT-OK AT&FE0V1X1&D2&C1S0=0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" set timeout 180 # 3 minute idle timer (the default) enable dns # request DNS info (for resolv.conf) huawei: set phone "#777" set login set authname "internet@internet.mtsindia.in" set authkey "MTS" set timeout 0 disable ipv6cp set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 add default HISADDR set dial AT+CRM=1 accept CHAP The u3g module is loaded at boot-time via /etc/rc.local : kldload u3g sleep 3 ppp -auto huawei I am using opendns/google servers for DNS in resolv.conf : 208.67.222.222 8.8.8.8 DNS cannot really be an issue because when I ping the IP address 208.67.222.222, I get 100% packet loss. Can someone please point me in the right direction so that my FreeBSD system starts connecting to the internet using the new modem ? Thank you & -- Regards, Manish Jain +91-99620-10329 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 20 12:39:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D4AC1065672 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 12:39:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [213.251.152.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC648FC0A for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 12:39:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [213.251.152.9]) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A592C41971 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:37:43 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.8.0 (20120630) at rmm.fr Received: from newmail.rmm.fr ([213.251.152.9]) by newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [213.251.152.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id gc1uXsHh9-S4 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:37:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [87.98.206.99]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: hidden) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7581641967 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:37:43 +0200 (CEST) From: bsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:33:01 +0200 Message-Id: To: Liste FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: Compatible Wi-Fi card mini PCI-Express X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 12:39:15 -0000 Hello friends,=20 I am looking for a FreeBSD compatible card in Mini PCI-Express.=20 I know that the hardware list provides a lot of links, but since there = are many providers, I thought It could be faster to ask the mailing list = directly.=20 This will be used as an AP in a pfSense appliance (for testing purposes) = and might be deployed in larger scale deployment if testing is ok=85 So = I'd rather use very good quality "branded" hardware. Could be 802.11 G.=20= Sincerely yours.=20 =96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96= =96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96 ---------> Gr=E9gory Bernard Director <--------- ---------------> www.osnet.eu <--------------- --> Your provider of OpenSource appliances <-- =96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96= =96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96 OSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetO From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 20 13:24:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A761065670 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:24:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA61C8FC16 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:24:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.139.28] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SsDCM-0006Rm-V5; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:24:51 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q6KDOmR9002317; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:24:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q6KDOl0p002316; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:24:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:24:47 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Manish Jain Message-ID: <20120720132446.GA2045@tiny.Sisis.de> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.139.28 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to get Huawei EC1561 USB modem working under FreeBSD 8.2 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:24:59 -0000 El día Friday, July 20, 2012 a las 05:55:21PM +0530, Manish Jain escribió: > > Hello all, > > I earlier had a Huawei EC1261-based USB modem which used to connect > smoothly to the internet under FreeBSD 8.2 using the u3g module. For > some reasons, I have had to switch to another provider (MTS) who swapped > the Huawei EC1261-based USB modem with a Huawei EC1561-based USB modem. > And my FreeBSD system cannot connect to the internet anymore. > > Here are the contents of my ppp.conf (I assume authkey means password) : > > default: > set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command > allow users bourne > set device /dev/cuaU0.0 > set speed 115200 > set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \ > \"\" AT OK-AT-OK AT&FE0V1X1&D2&C1S0=0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" > set timeout 180 # 3 minute idle timer (the default) > enable dns # request DNS info (for resolv.conf) > > huawei: > set phone "#777" > set login > set authname "internet@internet.mtsindia.in" > set authkey "MTS" > set timeout 0 > disable ipv6cp > set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 > add default HISADDR > set dial AT+CRM=1 > accept CHAP > > The u3g module is loaded at boot-time via /etc/rc.local : > > kldload u3g > sleep 3 > ppp -auto huawei Please provide the logs of chat and ppp; matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 20 13:47:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 261C4106566B; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:47:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCBB8FC19; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:47:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.199.104]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 20 Jul 2012 06:47:44 -0700 Message-ID: <5009617E.2080709@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 09:47:42 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions , ports@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2012 13:47:44.0754 (UTC) FILETIME=[3D834D20:01CD667E] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: Subject: 9.1 php5 port broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:47:49 -0000 Script started on Fri Jul 20 09:25:23 2012 # /usr/ports/lang/php5 >make config # /usr/ports/lang/php5 >make install clean ===> php5-5.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/apxs - found ===> php5-5.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf-2.69 - found ===> php5-5.4.4 depends on executable: pkg-config - found ===> php5-5.4.4 depends on shared library: pcre.1 - found ===> php5-5.4.4 depends on shared library: xml2.5 - found ===> Configuring for php5-5.4.4 rm: /usr/ports/lang/php5/work/php-5.4.4/configure: No such file or directory *** [pre-configure] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php5. *** [install] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php5. # /usr/ports/lang/php5 >exit exit Script done on Fri Jul 20 09:27:10 2012 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 20 14:07:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7261106564A; 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Fri, 20 Jul 2012 07:07:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.49.87 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 07:07:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5009617E.2080709@a1poweruser.com> References: <5009617E.2080709@a1poweruser.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:07:06 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: nfUTXXwIIt1yYkrnBO7L8mu-evo Message-ID: To: Fbsd8 , Alex Dupre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: ports@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 9.1 php5 port broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:07:40 -0000 On 20 July 2012 14:47, Fbsd8 wrote: > Script started on Fri Jul 20 09:25:23 2012 > > # /usr/ports/lang/php5 >make config > # /usr/ports/lang/php5 >make install clean > ===> php5-5.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/apxs - found > ===> php5-5.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf-2.69 - found > ===> php5-5.4.4 depends on executable: pkg-config - found > ===> php5-5.4.4 depends on shared library: pcre.1 - found > ===> php5-5.4.4 depends on shared library: xml2.5 - found > ===> Configuring for php5-5.4.4 > rm: /usr/ports/lang/php5/work/php-5.4.4/configure: No such file or directory > *** [pre-configure] Error code 1 You must have interrupted the pre-configure stage. Run make clean, and try again. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 20 14:23:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32175106564A; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:23:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061AE8FC08; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.199.104]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 20 Jul 2012 07:23:08 -0700 Message-ID: <500969C8.3010003@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:23:04 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Rees References: <5009617E.2080709@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2012 14:23:08.0397 (UTC) FILETIME=[2F4D81D0:01CD6683] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: ports@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions , Alex Dupre Subject: Re: 9.1 php5 port broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:23:07 -0000 Chris Rees wrote: > On 20 July 2012 14:47, Fbsd8 wrote: >> Script started on Fri Jul 20 09:25:23 2012 >> >> # /usr/ports/lang/php5 >make config >> # /usr/ports/lang/php5 >make install clean >> ===> php5-5.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/apxs - found >> ===> php5-5.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf-2.69 - found >> ===> php5-5.4.4 depends on executable: pkg-config - found >> ===> php5-5.4.4 depends on shared library: pcre.1 - found >> ===> php5-5.4.4 depends on shared library: xml2.5 - found >> ===> Configuring for php5-5.4.4 >> rm: /usr/ports/lang/php5/work/php-5.4.4/configure: No such file or directory >> *** [pre-configure] Error code 1 > > You must have interrupted the pre-configure stage. > > Run make clean, and try again. > > Chris > > Thanks Chris that fixed it. Compile is running now From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 20 14:34:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080BF106566B; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:34:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49678FC15; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:34:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.199.104]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 20 Jul 2012 07:34:44 -0700 Message-ID: <50096C82.8090104@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:34:42 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions , current@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2012 14:34:44.0518 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE392460:01CD6684] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: Subject: usb plugin msg class X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:34:43 -0000 In 8.x and older when I plugged in my usb thumb drive I got some messages on the console. But in 9.0 and 9.1 those message no longer show up on my console. I have a custom /etc/syslog.conf Did the message class of those usb plug-in message change between 8.x and 9.x? IE as defined in /etc/syslog.conf If their in a new class what is it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 20 14:46:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50550106566B; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E3C8FC0C; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:46:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q6KEkK2J016869; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 08:46:22 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 21:48:40 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-STABLE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <50096C82.8090104@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <50096C82.8090104@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201207202148.40939.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: Fbsd8 , FreeBSD Questions , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usb plugin msg class X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:46:35 -0000 Hi, On Friday 20 July 2012 21:34:42 Fbsd8 wrote: > In 8.x and older when I plugged in my usb thumb drive I got some > messages on the console. But in 9.0 and 9.1 those message no longer show > up on my console. I have a custom /etc/syslog.conf > > Did the message class of those usb plug-in message change between 8.x > and 9.x? IE as defined in /etc/syslog.conf > > If their in a new class what is it? I do not know. I only know that it works with the following configuration: # $FreeBSD$ # # Spaces ARE valid field separators in this file. However, # other *nix-like systems still insist on using tabs as field # separators. If you are sharing this file between systems, you # may want to use only tabs as field separators here. # Consult the syslog.conf(5) manpage. *.err;kern.warning;auth.notice;mail.crit /dev/console *.notice;authpriv.none;kern.debug;lpr.info;mail.crit;news.err /var/log/messages security.* /var/log/security auth.info;authpriv.info /var/log/auth.log mail.info /var/log/maillog lpr.info /var/log/lpd-errs ftp.info /var/log/xferlog cron.* /var/log/cron *.=debug /var/log/debug.log *.emerg * # uncomment this to log all writes to /dev/console to /var/log/console.log #console.info /var/log/console.log # uncomment this to enable logging of all log messages to /var/log/all.log # touch /var/log/all.log and chmod it to mode 600 before it will work #*.* /var/log/all.log # uncomment this to enable logging to a remote loghost named loghost #*.* @loghost # uncomment these if you're running inn # news.crit /var/log/news/news.crit # news.err /var/log/news/news.err # news.notice /var/log/news/news.notice !ppp *.* /var/log/ppp.log !* The file is the from a default installation of 10. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 20 15:01:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130301065672 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:01:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15478FC1A for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.199.104]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 20 Jul 2012 08:01:23 -0700 Message-ID: <500972BF.7090300@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 11:01:19 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2012 15:01:23.0811 (UTC) FILETIME=[8779E330:01CD6688] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Subject: find USB v2.0 physical ports on the computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:01:37 -0000 During the boot process I get these messages. I want to find the physical USB v2.0 ports on the computer box. How can I do this? usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus1: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus2: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus3: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 20 15:38:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108F61065670 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:38:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653238FC08 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:38:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6KFcTXT003737; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:38:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6KFcT4b003734; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:38:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:38:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Fbsd8 In-Reply-To: <500972BF.7090300@a1poweruser.com> Message-ID: References: <500972BF.7090300@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:38:30 +0200 (CEST) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: find USB v2.0 physical ports on the computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:38:44 -0000 > During the boot process I get these messages. > I want to find the physical USB v2.0 ports on the computer box. > How can I do this? > > > usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 > usbus1: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 > usbus2: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 > usbus3: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 but trying only. plug any USB device and look at kernel output to what usbus it was attached. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 20 15:40:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207181065675; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:40:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A81C8FC15; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:40:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6KFeRru003749; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:40:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6KFeRvP003746; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:40:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:40:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Fbsd8 In-Reply-To: <50096C82.8090104@a1poweruser.com> Message-ID: References: <50096C82.8090104@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:40:27 +0200 (CEST) Cc: FreeBSD Questions , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usb plugin msg class X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:40:33 -0000 > In 8.x and older when I plugged in my usb thumb drive I got some messages on > the console. But in 9.0 and 9.1 those message no longer show up on my i run 9.0 and after i plug any USB device kernel output messages as usual. It always get displayed on first console (ttyv0), the rest depends on your syslog config. > Did the message class of those usb plug-in message change between 8.x and > 9.x? IE as defined in /etc/syslog.conf > > If their in a new class what is it? what you mean "console". what kernel displays on first console does not depend on syslog. turn off syslog and it will be displayed too. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 20 15:57:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A79E106564A for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:57:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-gg0-f182.google.com (mail-gg0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D706A8FC0A for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:57:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnm2 with SMTP id m2so4885619ggn.13 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 08:57:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=n/xzT4eT2UgdQ67sqK1V8FfgljWLluNDoa5gvly0pnQ=; b=ggx1/Kr0SHf5m1f3n7aVSGwQYWFBu7CiDsQEWUCfHzxOwLnvrp92tO4E/WbJYC7mVi jlfE/lDwxqztRfRD6is0MFMggZREJ+wBGBj+jlGZg+Kq5zX4UF0MmFT+Bm/45AI2FZbC vywwI9qEN6tQuwHU/LWu26U+IHWnw54SUWDFkgiaN1zh0I+9hpMc7Guip7dBuqzZVhMf /f4BFn5GMEdSRmettA5bkNdqVqUQAMLFQXSr87iDgQ5KLO1YgL8uhFWXuU9eKxD+M3yU WoZwURzcFZoOYPBb9aQlO0qdDuicMvizR71tZLiOcSQMsODgGxz6l9Jy8KtBa40vTlAC sxcQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.46.231 with SMTP id y7mr8668672igm.21.1342799870081; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 08:57:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.124.41 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 08:57:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.171.129] In-Reply-To: <201207190253.q6J2r3p0070058@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201207181558.q6IFwM7f033708@fire.js.berklix.net> <201207190253.q6J2r3p0070058@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:57:49 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Robert Bonomi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQll2sS/Ny/GFP0oqdUhEcZ6h1b0k5kaZpEjI10o05kV1z+KbsDaL/m2g4nDLtn2zKtRpO5Z Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:57:51 -0000 On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 4:53 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > All I'm going to say is: > 1) There's a _reason_ the gov't requires hard drives with anthing higher > than 'somewhat' classified data on them to be =physically= destroyed > before leving the secure area. Speaking from experience, I confirm that it's true. However, regulations have been tightened further recently as to mandate sector-level encryption of the hard disks as well, just to be on the sure(rer) side. At least in certain particularly sensitive areas. > 2) As of 2007, 'over-writing' data (regardless of how many times) is *not* > sufficient, any more, for _any_ military purposes. Yes. With enough resources, it is possible to read lower magnetic layers of HDDs, at least partially. And with SDDs, it's trivial to locate the old sectors, because their firmware doesn't overwrite the same physical spots for obvious reasons. That's why sector-level disk encryption is paramount nowadays. And that opens a whole new Pandora's box of key management issues and vulnerabilities. ;-) -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 20 16:07:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575DD1065670 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:07:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956CD8FC0A for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:07:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6KG7R9e003869; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:07:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6KG7ReP003866; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:07:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:07:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "C. P. Ghost" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201207181558.q6IFwM7f033708@fire.js.berklix.net> <201207190253.q6J2r3p0070058@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:07:28 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:07:33 -0000 > regulations have been tightened further recently as to mandate > sector-level encryption of the hard disks as well, just to be on the > sure(rer) side. At least in certain particularly sensitive areas. which may be a proof that governments know backdoors alloving recovery from encrypted drives using builtin "hardware encryption" (FDE). Not that easy with geli ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 20 16:19:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B46106564A for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2F68FC14 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:19:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6KGJcd0003904 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:19:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6KGJb4k003901 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:19:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:19:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:19:38 +0200 (CEST) Subject: AES NI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:19:40 -0000 am i doing something wrong? i have processor with AES-NI support. I've seen a lot of tests showing AES encryption performance to be in order of 1GB/s or more. actual #mdconfig -a malloc -s2g #geli init -s 4096 /dev/md0 #geli attach /dev/md0 #dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/md0.eli dd: /dev/md0.eli: short write on character device dd: /dev/md0.eli: end of device 32768+0 records in 32767+1 records out 2147479552 bytes transferred in 14.199564 secs (151235598 bytes/sec) #dd if=/dev/md0.eli of=/dev/zero bs=64k 32767+1 records in 32767+1 records out 2147479552 bytes transferred in 13.201660 secs (162667389 bytes/sec) so 150-160MB/s still faster than encryption without AES-NI but quite a slow. data from kernel CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E31220 @ 3.10GHz (3100.03-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x206a7 Family = 6 Model = 2a Stepping = 7 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x17bae3ff AMD Features=0x28100800 AMD Features2=0x1 TSC: P-state invariant aesni0: on motherboard GEOM_ELI: Encryption: AES-XTS 128 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 20 16:49:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22496106566B for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:49:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67238FC18 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:49:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-22-218.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.22.218]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE873CD22; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:49:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q6KGnfLx002774; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:49:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:49:41 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Fbsd8 Message-Id: <20120720184941.17bbedfb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <500972BF.7090300@a1poweruser.com> References: <500972BF.7090300@a1poweruser.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: find USB v2.0 physical ports on the computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:49:50 -0000 On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 11:01:19 -0400, Fbsd8 wrote: > During the boot process I get these messages. > I want to find the physical USB v2.0 ports on the computer box. > How can I do this? Check the documentation of your computer (mainboard). It should note where the ports are located. In systems that have _both_ USB 1.0 and 2.0, there sometimes is even a red sticker to "alert" you which ports are only USB 1.0. The manual of the board depicts which USB ports are those. Typical places would be rear side, internal connectors, and front ports (connected to those internal ones). If you do not have any documentation, take a USB 2.0 device (where you are _sure_ it's USB 2.0) and try it on all the ports. Check the dmesg output informing you about how the device has been initialized (e. g. transfer speed mentioned). You can also use usbconfig to obtain this information. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 20 17:40:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF67106566B for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:40:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-gg0-f182.google.com (mail-gg0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D848FC0A for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:40:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnm2 with SMTP id m2so5020118ggn.13 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:40:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=olHySKzSLeTdsAwgiknK5dDk5xHLW2Xoc6SGW6S4eQ0=; b=bxmmYTWrymZlT2bHjWlz2VXpC2SYe95MglIQZn+NOl4MGZqKytNYJlOczRNL98EMMk GP846iaR7JJLCYWD8PdGwnJZAdxQDqUW9/Yuj2hhPPLvg3QG/ji320KPbvICmhK8VqO9 2sWAH+op/SQEta1hfzzwBC3pg+F/10djjD3EaV7l7ImtO/pGxZb5u8gGgx7kWXTMSTg1 Ul4q8U5lmg7T5XDJ24SbdY4r3gmD6mIQRc4sn+zu1pIowesV0s6vGG6yzAEbh/hgAD+G qouELf44+f1gfQ4uGZEW23sNHlKoZCVeWzTmt+78ZRfKVtSOQ1+pFLh9H9wadZX44Vhi 7pLA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.46.230 with SMTP id y6mr5087602igm.20.1342806027283; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.124.41 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:40:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.171.129] In-Reply-To: References: <201207181558.q6IFwM7f033708@fire.js.berklix.net> <201207190253.q6J2r3p0070058@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:40:27 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnVSqRZOwhKTNweRN6ziLltK2BdA0jiZJDhXHGE08zqqQxcIFSpfW4ho4d6LJz9N/TQUSbm Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:40:33 -0000 On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> regulations have been tightened further recently as to mandate >> sector-level encryption of the hard disks as well, just to be on the >> sure(rer) side. At least in certain particularly sensitive areas. > > which may be a proof that governments know backdoors alloving recovery > from encrypted drives using builtin "hardware encryption" (FDE). > > Not that easy with geli ;) Indeed. But getting GELI certified and approved by the relevant institutions and agencies isn't that easy either. Yet without getting both, we aren't allowed to rely on GELI as the sole encryption-provider. As an add-on on top of a certified solution, GELI wouldn't hurt though: it's a decent piece of code. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 20 18:18:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9EA106564A for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:18:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43DCC8FC08 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6KIImg3001705; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 20:18:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6KIImeV001702; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 20:18:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 20:18:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "C. P. Ghost" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201207181558.q6IFwM7f033708@fire.js.berklix.net> <201207190253.q6J2r3p0070058@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 20 Jul 2012 20:18:49 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:18:54 -0000 > Indeed. > > But getting GELI certified and approved by the relevant > institutions and agencies isn't that easy either. Yet without no idea what are you talking about. For your own use you don't need anyones certification. You need safe solution. geli just do this. As for any government agencies and corporations why you care about their problems? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 01:38:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D949106566C for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 01:38:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CCE8FC0C for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 01:38:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q6L1bxQN025980; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:38:02 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 08:40:17 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-STABLE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201207210840.18122.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: Manish Jain Subject: Re: How to get Huawei EC1561 USB modem working under FreeBSD 8.2 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 01:38:04 -0000 Hi, On Friday 20 July 2012 19:25:21 Manish Jain wrote: > > I earlier had a Huawei EC1261-based USB modem which used to connect > smoothly to the internet under FreeBSD 8.2 using the u3g module. For > some reasons, I have had to switch to another provider (MTS) who swapped > the Huawei EC1261-based USB modem with a Huawei EC1561-based USB modem. > And my FreeBSD system cannot connect to the internet anymore. > both modems are not officially supported by FreeBSD. You might get some help from the list if you provide the output of usbconfig and usbdump. You run usbconfig first to find out the device numbers of the modem and then dump with usbdump the description of the modem. > Here are the contents of my ppp.conf (I assume authkey means password) : There should nothing to be done here as the modem is not recognised. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 03:52:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8D8106566B for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 03:52:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 68B5E8FC15 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 03:52:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ::ffff:69.12.202.165 ([69.12.202.165]) by holgerdanske.com for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 20:52:31 -0700 Message-ID: <500A2773.1060100@holgerdanske.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 20:52:19 -0700 From: David Christensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20120613 Icedove/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: PCBSD9.0-x64-DVD and Intel HD Graphics 2000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 03:52:38 -0000 freebsd-questions: I've installed PCBSD9.0-x64-DVD on the following hardware: Intel DQ67SW motherboard Intel i7-2600S processor Corsair CMV8GX3M2A1333C9 memory (DDR3, 1333 MHz, 2@4 GB dual) Intel SSDSC2CW060A310 solid-state drive (520 series, 60 GB) Nokia 445XiPlus monitor (21" CRT, high bandwidth) For video, I would like to use the Intel HD Graphics 2000 provided by the processor and motherboard. When I run the PC-BSD Display Settings applet: 1. The "intel" and/or "intel-3d-enable" Video Driver settings do not seem to have any effect. 2. The Monitor Settings do not seem to have any effect. 3. The Screen Resolution setting seems to work, but I am unable to affect the refresh rate. (I prefer 1600x1200 @ 85 Hz.) I have updated the system using Update Manager, and the problems persist. Any suggestions? TIA, David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 07:49:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96C11065674 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 07:49:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mihai.dontu@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12FBE8FC14 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 07:49:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by weyx56 with SMTP id x56so3765109wey.13 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 00:49:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=O/p6RrE3+HamJWFrBTzlI9F2rqo/Sf9q7D0QtPzqxVs=; b=GQuluQmU8NMn1JSu8vk2gr6ueWQZveHWUCz2o7GutBfU2LMlYoBqC4kGAg0kd2w4OG EWKPvtuCPfM9aLpMDxwEv1CjyleuZ9rwcrZEUbJeOUNSlCwTLEVQEr/V6sBZsjpIUllC SespQtG7iSzC6SNZZYRQr+wPMqtiP3t5QoKbQ2YZPNt7jslvGPBcOYY1TOXom6wmRPmT UrZS5UN6QO2KRUgAZNxC3wi+G5ElYDoZpFu051tosLzl4Wan8GaGRBe9gTJNm9QlAzdU Hp1S4TGbxl3apZUQpbB5QWU/PLqmEx1H26nxCRQMUpvhrh7Nwo2hHQ05j5UEdyz9ihGX 2lKw== Received: by 10.180.82.39 with SMTP id f7mr20596214wiy.2.1342856963044; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 00:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mdontu-l.dsd.ro ([86.104.62.181]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fb20sm4019279wid.1.2012.07.21.00.49.21 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 21 Jul 2012 00:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 10:49:20 +0300 From: Mihai =?UTF-8?B?RG9uyJt1?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120721104920.314860b8@mdontu-l.dsd.ro> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Home Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: AES NI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 07:49:24 -0000 On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:19:37 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > am i doing something wrong? i have processor with AES-NI support. >=20 > I've seen a lot of tests showing AES encryption performance to be in > order of 1GB/s or more. >=20 ignore its GNU/Linux orientation and go for the numbers: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=3Darticle&item=3Dubuntu_aesni_intel --=20 Mihai Don=C8=9Bu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 07:58:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F79106564A for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 07:58:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585168FC12 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 07:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q6L7xeka004536 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 02:59:40 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 02:59:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201207210759.q6L7xeka004536@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Help solving the sysadm's nightmare X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 07:58:18 -0000 > From: Wojciech Puchar > Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:12:05 +0200 (CEST) > Subject: Re: Help solving the sysadm's nightmare > [[ sarcastic comment with no useful value removed ]] > > it's a mess, and ofcourse everything is "critical" there is no room for > > interruption of service. > > > > Now, I have no idea which processes actually require access to those > > files, what privileges these processes run with and which files are > > actually executable or just plain files. > i can only help you with base system and ports permissions, and /var and > /etc > > just look how it should be Of gourse, setting system/ports permissins back to the way "it should be" WILL re-introduce the problems that were 'solved' by the prior administrator changing permissiona as descrribed, resulting in UNACCEPTABLE interruption of operations -- quote: "Everything is 'critical' there is no room for interruption of service." > > What I know is that lots of files are on samba shares and lots of files > > are used by uniface9 application, but I don't know much about uniface > > or if this is actually executed on the client or on the server. > > look at samba config to check as what user directories are accessed. set > it as such user and chmod 700 is enough. While that "instruction" may have some relevance to _some_ situations, there is *NO* guarantee that, say, multiple users in a given department of the business do _not_ require access to files in the 'user directory' of another employee in that same department. While one can argue -- with some validity -- that things "should not" be that way, one _cannot_ guarantee that such is not the case. ESPECIALLY, given the mind-set of the prior admin(s). Thus, changing permissions 'as directed' _does_ have a definite possibilit of causing unacceptable interruption of critical services. > > So, how can I > > > - determine which users actually need read or write access to these > > files? > > lsof will not help you. Using lsof will *DEFINITELY* _help_ -- in identifying which applications access which files. lsof output will not be comprehensive/complete, because a single lsof run only produces a snapshot of what currentl-running processes have what files open at that time. But it *DOES* provide a 'starting point', a list of the files that the running applications are _proven_ to require access to. Changing permissions on those lsof-identified files, such that the application in question does _not_ have access to it *WILL* break that application. Knowing what -not- to do -- because "doing that thing" _will_ break something -- is a _critical_ part of determining what =can= be done. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 08:12:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5083106564A for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 08:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107688FC0A for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 08:12:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6L8CL6Q001583; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 10:12:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6L8CLNn001580; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 10:12:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 10:12:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: =?UTF-8?Q?Mihai_Don=C8=9Bu?= In-Reply-To: <20120721104920.314860b8@mdontu-l.dsd.ro> Message-ID: References: <20120721104920.314860b8@mdontu-l.dsd.ro> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 21 Jul 2012 10:12:21 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AES NI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 08:12:26 -0000 >> > > ignore its GNU/Linux orientation and go for the numbers: > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_aesni_intel seems just like popular sites are providing strange untrue data. site says 2-3 times improvement at most, exactly what i found. > > -- > Mihai Don?u > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 09:24:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A29106566B for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:24:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.skuhra@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0F18FC08 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:24:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so8221735pbb.13 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 02:24:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=qiMFUOJR7m42mrsPvBOFr1KXLzglM75gPAwMkusKck8=; b=zWGXdPjXUJx6LTe3QZNQYPrvBGR0s3KeKIVAKfGctGJT8Yue2VwDDP8rni/8FU5bYr /1P2QbApV6PX7+ApS2ukCV4A9aOwYAW6QSwjZjXRK/MDp4COJwytbbqohkq12FUQh4JG qjPiV5IJW+aysHZLaNU9tAyi8e6zVZ9sP0VRLtf+ymlYrGKfC86MQRLqlM/FOsV6rVbh D1rMCFUc4CqzrPd04Qg2ZP4DLTyr39SFzx0DU5X9egjLOGNuLZp6ewKepcqcufYr/TSR g5zbpAh27frFi3OiEwWqytx0xlhJ4621JYfVs5V78c3nNQIi3uy8ZJS9m0t4xglSAlto 8/CQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.227.163 with SMTP id sb3mr20603305pbc.74.1342862674766; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 02:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.239.67 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 02:24:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87fw8yariq.wl%h.skuhra@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:24:34 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: Jails on FreeBSD 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:24:35 -0000 Hi, ok, this is obviously a pf problem and the reason why the network in the jail doesn't work. ifconfig lo1 create ifconfig lo1 10.0.0.10 netmask 0xffffff00 nc -s 10.0.0.10 xx.xx.xx.xx 25 With pf: connections fails; server receives SYN-ACK, but nc continues sending SYNs until nc gives up With ipfw: connection OK On my Soekris box at home (9.1-PRERELEASE i386) both ipfw and pf works. Thanks. -- Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 10:10:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53AAC106566C for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 10:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBCC8FC22 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 10:10:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q6LACEDp007331 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 05:12:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 05:12:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201207211012.q6LACEDp007331@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 10:10:46 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 19 03:21:28 2012 > Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:18:43 +0200 (CEST) > From: Wojciech Puchar > To: Robert Bonomi > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? > > > entitled to have opinions, *BUT* the "Gospel According to Wojciech" is > > -not- 'the answer' for everybody, in every situation. *IF* you ever > > learn that, > > Seems like you have 45 years of experience in words. nothing more. It seems like all you know how to do is engage in ignorant, uninformed, personal attacks/insults. Not that it matters, but -- in addition to having had a news story I wrote published on the front page of the N.Y. Times (midwest edition) -- I've: a) Designed and implemented trans-national, trans-atlantic corporate data network for the trading arm of a major Japanese bank. b) implemented "array of pointer to function" in FORTRAN 77 applications. c) Written date parsing routines, originally in FORTRAN 66, that would recognize virtually -any- 'rational' date expression -- including the likes of "this 23rd day of June in the Year of Our Lord 2012". had a switch for 'prefering' European-syle (DD MM YY) or American-style (MM DD YY) dates when ambiguous. User-manual for the free-form command parser merely specified a 'date' was required at a particular point, would frequently generate user inquires 'what date _format_ is required?' Answer: "Use what you prefer, it will probably make sense out of it" d) Written the _first_ commodity-options 'theoretical value' calculation routine that was fast enough to be used in 'real time' in determining 'fair value' for exchange-traded commodity options. When the source data may change in a fractiono of a second, Doing 'Cox-Ross-Rubenstein' math *before* the underling data changes -- invalidating the calculation- in-progress -- is challenging. Doing it for the -entire- market, which requires sub-millisecond timing, is far more than just 'challenging'. e) Written the worlds fastest project scheduling software (merely 4000 times faster than IBM's offering at the time). After I demoed the software for over a dozen senior IBM construction executives, they contracted with the firm I worked for, for project scheuling services for -all- their major physicaal plant construction projects. U.S. Army Corps of Engineers also bought a copy. f) Wrote the _first_ PC-based software for 'off-line' creation of control-files for a high-end video-tape editing suite. File format _entirely_ undocumented, required 'reverse-engineering' of everthing. g) Designed and implemented a complete _real-time_ market price data distribution system (everything from the incoming feed processing to the subroutinies that the 'user applications' used) for a major Government Securities brokerage. Stand-alone code on dedicated processors for each incoming feed, feeding a back-end server, with multiplexing daemons on each workstation, to support multiple simultaneous applications. Commplete with application-level transparency for the crash/auto-restart of any system-level component, and auto release of resources previousl allocated to now-zombie clients. Everthing _guaranteed_, by architecture design to be non-blocking, _impossible_ for one client app to adversely affect quote delivery to other apps, even on the same machine. h) Designed and built a complete 'subscription publiication' accounting system -- complete 'subscriber management'. billing, payment, earned- income handling, -and- 'fulfillment' processing. i) Written 'hyupervisor' (for lack of a better term) code for a mini- computer system, to automate a management task on that machine that the _manufacturer_ of the hardare and O/S said could _not_ be automated. > Aggression is normal today from such people, that have "good position" in > some companies and fear anyone could read any other than "established" > opinions. That is an amazingly accurate description of _YOU_, Wociech -- You might consider why you feel it necessary to _personally_attack_ anyone and everyone who "has the nerve to disagree with your _opinions_". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 11:29:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64479106566C for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:29:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E028FC0C for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q6LBUYf1007804 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 06:30:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 06:30:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201207211130.q6LBUYf1007804@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:29:06 -0000 > Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 20:18:48 +0200 (CEST) > From: Wojciech Puchar > Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? > > > Indeed. > > > > But getting GELI certified and approved by the relevant > > institutions and agencies isn't that easy either. Yet without > > no idea what are you talking about. Then you would be well advised to keep pie-hole shut. Doing otherwise, as Lincoln put it, "removes all doubt." > As for any government agencies and corporations why you care about their > problems? Does it even *occur* to you that some people use FreeBSD in _business_ operations? Business (or even government) operations which just might have to comply with _laws_ that limit them to using resources that have been "certified" as doing what the law requires such tools do? C.P. has made it clear that she _is_ in am environment where compliance with government edicts on the subject of security _is_ an operational requirement. Including the mandatory use of 'certified' solutions for particcular issues. In her environment, geli could be used 'in addition to' a mandatory, "certified" solution, but *NOT* 'by itself' as a means of dealing with that mandatory requirement -- because it is *not* and approved and 'certified' means of satisfying that requirement. Whether or not you agree with, or even _understand_, the nature of the requirement is immaterial, and irrelevant to C.P.'s situation. She _does_ have to deal with those requirements, which you do not -- your lack of comprension of that =fact= not withstaning. --q6LBAU6u007680.1342869030/mail.r-bonomi.com-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 11:43:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D01610657A7 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:43:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC69F8FC19 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhfs35 with SMTP id s35so5462531yhf.13 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 04:43:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zvpB6WEtxedkpNg9m/SYsr8dDtz9QW62wkH2HVVn+dQ=; b=m4ugzx8A3/cvYbsJ/HZJVHxrVu2M3z8umvKZ7QafE5xSlnPCNvcQsfllSrlw4WrnEp 4jZnhL0RqrJ7PWREmBq736DgxX8zkKcoF2CUI2LLRmkWe/pg9qHICkhMt0clqbX5xBko mK/Ie0dIfMoxHmMkRmjwvLDeZ+SuZNM+99F4o= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=zvpB6WEtxedkpNg9m/SYsr8dDtz9QW62wkH2HVVn+dQ=; b=GRAqQZzDk1C8WK3W4kGn/qSsaXK63pZfy8KA3XqE/hPlJ1WMpbsJUDrUAl3BC60mmG xrWft37jbkUlTKeHNVrWkj8WVEuQbspxqBopIsJEJhgDxocnR1EIjXbIVfccG5CYEjsf 00CH2VlfI9Nel/CQcQFzefI+lMWBngkbJgC4FYNNHy6UBebqZsyEShGezezDzFKe5R/Z e8HWDoABDjpjuUHz000T4OK6TRWuw55qRLaJHIvn50/vVNjXJ5D5Y5873sp2xWmq09cP eM1VLVRXzd/DmrDX/FnBTwfSXnU4AE5o326ar0dUpBhGrtCP12ZCTDYku8q3ZMpqmqDp o4ng== Received: by 10.236.109.225 with SMTP id s61mr8756105yhg.5.1342871024968; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 04:43:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:43:46 -0000 On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 05:12:14 -0500 (CDT) Robert Bonomi articulated: > > Wojciech Puchar > > > > > entitled to have opinions, *BUT* the "Gospel According to > > > Wojciech" is -not- 'the answer' for everybody, in every > > > situation. *IF* you ever learn that, > > > > Seems like you have 45 years of experience in words. nothing more. > > It seems like all you know how to do is engage in ignorant, > uninformed, personal attacks/insults. > > Not that it matters, but -- in addition to having had a news story I > wrote published on the front page of the N.Y. Times (midwest edition) > -- I've: a) Designed and implemented trans-national, trans-atlantic > corporate data network for the trading arm of a major Japanese bank. > b) implemented "array of pointer to function" in FORTRAN 77 > applications. c) Written date parsing routines, originally in FORTRAN > 66, that would recognize virtually -any- 'rational' date expression > -- including the likes of "this 23rd day of June in the Year of Our > Lord 2012". had a switch for 'prefering' European-syle (DD MM YY) or > American-style (MM DD YY) dates when ambiguous. User-manual for the > free-form command parser merely specified a 'date' was required at a > particular point, would frequently generate user inquires 'what date > _format_ is required?' Answer: "Use what you prefer, it will probably > make sense out of it" d) Written the _first_ commodity-options > 'theoretical value' calculation routine that was fast enough to be > used in 'real time' in determining 'fair value' for exchange-traded > commodity options. When the source data may change in a fractiono of > a second, Doing 'Cox-Ross-Rubenstein' math *before* the underling > data changes -- invalidating the calculation- in-progress -- is > challenging. Doing it for the -entire- market, which requires > sub-millisecond timing, is far more than just 'challenging'. e) > Written the worlds fastest project scheduling software (merely 4000 > times faster than IBM's offering at the time). After I demoed the > software for over a dozen senior IBM construction executives, they > contracted with the firm I worked for, for project scheuling services > for -all- their major physicaal plant construction projects. U.S. > Army Corps of Engineers also bought a copy. f) Wrote the _first_ > PC-based software for 'off-line' creation of control-files for a > high-end video-tape editing suite. File format _entirely_ > undocumented, required 'reverse-engineering' of everthing. g) > Designed and implemented a complete _real-time_ market price data > distribution system (everything from the incoming feed processing to > the subroutinies that the 'user applications' used) for a major > Government Securities brokerage. Stand-alone code on dedicated > processors for each incoming feed, feeding a back-end server, with > multiplexing daemons on each workstation, to support multiple > simultaneous applications. Commplete with application-level > transparency for the crash/auto-restart of any system-level > component, and auto release of resources previousl allocated to > now-zombie clients. Everthing _guaranteed_, by architecture design to > be non-blocking, _impossible_ for one client app to adversely affect > quote delivery to other apps, even on the same machine. h) Designed > and built a complete 'subscription publiication' accounting system -- > complete 'subscriber management'. billing, payment, earned- income > handling, -and- 'fulfillment' processing. i) Written > 'hyupervisor' (for lack of a better term) code for a mini- computer > system, to automate a management task on that machine that the > _manufacturer_ of the hardare and O/S said could _not_ be automated. Big deal; so what have you done lately. :-) Seriously though, I wish people would stop feeding this TROLL. There is absolutely no upside to it. As has been stated so eloquently many times before, "Never argue with a fool - they will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience." > > Aggression is normal today from such people, that have "good > > position" in some companies and fear anyone could read any other > > than "established" opinions. > > That is an amazingly accurate description of _YOU_, Wociech -- You > might consider why you feel it necessary to _personally_attack_ > anyone and everyone who "has the nerve to disagree with your > _opinions_". -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Numeric stability is probably not all that important when you're guessing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 12:29:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345C21065689 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc1-s3.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s3.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0AF48FC17 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:29:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP22 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s3.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 21 Jul 2012 05:28:59 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [180.215.31.115] X-Originating-Email: [bourne.identity@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([180.215.31.115]) by BLU0-SMTP22.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 21 Jul 2012 05:28:58 -0700 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:01:11 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erich Dollansky References: <201207210840.18122.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <201207210840.18122.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jul 2012 12:28:59.0071 (UTC) FILETIME=[67330CF0:01CD673C] Cc: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to get Huawei EC1561 USB modem working under FreeBSD 8.2 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:29:01 -0000 Hello Erich/Matthias, Thanks for your responses. I do not have the usbdump command on my system. usbconfig gives the following output : ugen0.1: at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=SAVE ugen1.1: at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=SAVE ugen2.1: at usbus2, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=SAVE ugen3.1: at usbus3, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=SAVE ugen4.1: at usbus4, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=SAVE ugen5.1: at usbus5, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=SAVE ugen6.1: at usbus6, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=SAVE ugen0.2: at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=LOW (1.5Mbps) pwr=ON ugen1.2: at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON ugen2.2: at usbus2, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=SAVE PFA ppp.log. As you will find, it repeatedly complains of /dev/cuaU0.0 being an invalid file. But the output of 'ls -l' shows the contrary : crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 96 Jul 21 17:38 acd0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 97 Jul 21 17:38 acd1 crw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0, 36 Jul 21 17:38 acpi crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 98 Jul 21 17:38 ad8 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 103 Jul 21 17:38 ad8s1 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 104 Jul 21 17:38 ad8s2 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 108 Jul 21 23:08 ad8s2a crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 109 Jul 21 17:38 ad8s2b crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 105 Jul 21 17:38 ad8s3 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 106 Jul 21 17:38 ad8s4 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 111 Jul 21 17:38 ad8s5 crw------- 1 root operator 0, 35 Jul 21 17:38 ata crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 50 Jul 21 17:38 atkbd0 crw------- 1 root kmem 0, 16 Jul 21 17:38 audit crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 12 Jul 21 17:38 bpf lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3 Jul 21 17:38 bpf0 -> bpf crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 53 Jul 21 17:38 bpsm0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 135 Jul 21 23:08 cd0 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 5 Jul 21 17:39 console crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 70 Jul 21 17:38 consolectl crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 10 Jul 21 17:38 ctty crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 143 Jul 21 17:38 cuaU0.0 crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 144 Jul 21 17:38 cuaU0.0.init crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 145 Jul 21 17:38 cuaU0.0.lock crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 149 Jul 21 17:38 cuaU0.1 crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 150 Jul 21 17:38 cuaU0.1.init crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 151 Jul 21 17:38 cuaU0.1.lock crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 155 Jul 21 17:38 cuaU0.2 crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 156 Jul 21 17:38 cuaU0.2.init crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 157 Jul 21 17:38 cuaU0.2.lock crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 44 Jul 21 17:38 cuau0 crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 45 Jul 21 17:38 cuau0.init crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 46 Jul 21 17:38 cuau0.lock crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 137 Jul 21 23:08 da0 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 32 Jul 21 17:38 dcons crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 3 Jul 21 17:38 devctl cr-------- 1 root wheel 0, 95 Jul 21 17:38 devstat crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 33 Jul 21 17:38 dgdb crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 162 Jul 21 17:39 dsp0.0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 161 Jul 21 17:39 dsp1.0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 160 Jul 21 17:39 dsp2.0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 159 Jul 21 17:39 dsp3.0 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 21 17:38 ext2fs dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 21 17:38 fd crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 14 Jul 21 17:38 fido lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5 Jul 21 17:38 fw0 -> fw0.0 crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 37 Jul 21 17:38 fw0.0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8 Jul 21 17:38 fwmem0 -> fwmem0.0 crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 38 Jul 21 17:38 fwmem0.0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 4 Jul 21 17:38 geom.ctl crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 27 Jul 21 17:38 io dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 21 23:08 iso9660 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6 Jul 21 17:38 kbd0 -> atkbd0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7 Jul 21 17:38 kbd1 -> kbdmux0 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 23 Jul 21 17:38 kbdmux0 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 31 Jul 21 17:38 klog crw-r----- 1 root kmem 0, 26 Jul 21 17:38 kmem lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 12 Jul 21 17:38 log -> /var/run/log crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 47 Jul 21 17:38 lpt0 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 48 Jul 21 17:38 lpt0.ctl crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 73 Jul 21 17:38 mdctl crw-r----- 1 root kmem 0, 25 Jul 21 17:38 mem crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 34 Jul 21 17:38 midistat crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 99 Jul 21 17:38 mixer0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 100 Jul 21 17:38 mixer1 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 101 Jul 21 17:38 mixer2 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 102 Jul 21 17:38 mixer3 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7 Jul 21 17:38 modem -> cuaU0.0 crw------- 1 root kmem 0, 15 Jul 21 17:38 nfslock dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 21 17:38 ntfs crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 28 Jul 21 17:44 null crw------- 1 root operator 0, 133 Jul 21 23:08 pass0 crw------- 1 root operator 0, 134 Jul 21 23:08 pass1 crw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0, 30 Jul 21 17:38 pci crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 49 Jul 21 17:38 ppi0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 52 Jul 21 17:38 psm0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 9 Jul 21 17:38 ptmx crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 7 Jul 21 23:08 random cr--r--r-- 1 root wheel 0, 6 Jul 21 17:38 sndstat lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4 Jul 21 17:38 stderr -> fd/2 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4 Jul 21 17:38 stdin -> fd/0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4 Jul 21 17:38 stdout -> fd/1 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 11 Jul 21 17:38 sysmouse crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 140 Jul 21 17:38 ttyU0.0 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 141 Jul 21 17:38 ttyU0.0.init crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 142 Jul 21 17:38 ttyU0.0.lock crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 146 Jul 21 17:38 ttyU0.1 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 147 Jul 21 17:38 ttyU0.1.init crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 148 Jul 21 17:38 ttyU0.1.lock crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 152 Jul 21 17:38 ttyU0.2 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 153 Jul 21 17:38 ttyU0.2.init crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 154 Jul 21 17:38 ttyU0.2.lock crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 41 Jul 21 17:38 ttyu0 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 42 Jul 21 17:38 ttyu0.init crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 43 Jul 21 17:38 ttyu0.lock crw------- 1 root tty 0, 54 Jul 21 17:45 ttyv0 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 55 Jul 21 17:38 ttyv1 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 56 Jul 21 17:38 ttyv2 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 57 Jul 21 17:38 ttyv3 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 58 Jul 21 17:38 ttyv4 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 59 Jul 21 17:38 ttyv5 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 60 Jul 21 17:38 ttyv6 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 61 Jul 21 17:38 ttyv7 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 62 Jul 21 17:38 ttyv8 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 63 Jul 21 17:38 ttyv9 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 64 Jul 21 17:38 ttyva crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 65 Jul 21 17:38 ttyvb crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 66 Jul 21 17:38 ttyvc crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 67 Jul 21 17:38 ttyvd crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 68 Jul 21 17:38 ttyve crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 69 Jul 21 17:38 ttyvf crw------- 1 uucp dialer 0, 158 Jul 21 17:38 tun0 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 21 17:38 ufsid lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Jul 21 17:38 ugen0.1 -> usb/0.1.0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Jul 21 17:38 ugen0.2 -> usb/0.2.0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Jul 21 17:38 ugen1.1 -> usb/1.1.0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Jul 21 17:38 ugen1.2 -> usb/1.2.0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Jul 21 17:38 ugen2.1 -> usb/2.1.0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Jul 21 17:38 ugen2.2 -> usb/2.2.0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Jul 21 17:38 ugen3.1 -> usb/3.1.0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Jul 21 17:38 ugen4.1 -> usb/4.1.0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Jul 21 17:38 ugen5.1 -> usb/5.1.0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Jul 21 17:38 ugen6.1 -> usb/6.1.0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6 Jul 21 17:38 urandom -> random dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 21 17:38 usb crw-r--r-- 1 root operator 0, 71 Jul 21 17:38 usbctl lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7 Jul 21 17:38 usv -> ugen0.2 crw------- 1 root operator 0, 72 Jul 21 17:38 xpt0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 29 Jul 21 17:38 zero Thanks for any tips/help. Which port do I need to install to get usbdump ? Regards, Manish Jain +91-99620-10329 On 21-Jul-12 07:10, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Friday 20 July 2012 19:25:21 Manish Jain wrote: >> I earlier had a Huawei EC1261-based USB modem which used to connect >> smoothly to the internet under FreeBSD 8.2 using the u3g module. For >> some reasons, I have had to switch to another provider (MTS) who swapped >> the Huawei EC1261-based USB modem with a Huawei EC1561-based USB modem. >> And my FreeBSD system cannot connect to the internet anymore. >> > both modems are not officially supported by FreeBSD. > > You might get some help from the list if you provide the output of usbconfig and usbdump. > > You run usbconfig first to find out the device numbers of the modem and then dump with usbdump the description of the modem. > >> Here are the contents of my ppp.conf (I assume authkey means password) : > There should nothing to be done here as the modem is not recognised. > > Erich > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 13:11:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C566106566C for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622FA8FC15 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:11:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6LDBiuV002974; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:11:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6LDBitR002971; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:11:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:11:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Robert Bonomi In-Reply-To: <201207211012.q6LACEDp007331@mail.r-bonomi.com> Message-ID: References: <201207211012.q6LACEDp007331@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:11:44 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:11:50 -0000 > > It seems like all you know how to do is engage in ignorant, uninformed, > personal attacks/insults. if you would read more carefully then you will see clearly that i am personally attacked most often. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 13:12:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99850106566C for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:12:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CD48FC29 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:12:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6LDClgK002989 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:12:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6LDCkvY002986 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:12:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:12:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20120721074341.2c5a760a@scorpio> Message-ID: References: <201207211012.q6LACEDp007331@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120721074341.2c5a760a@scorpio> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:12:47 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:12:50 -0000 > Seriously though, I wish people would stop feeding this TROLL. There is > absolutely no upside to it. As has been stated so eloquently many times > before, "Never argue with a fool - they will drag you down to their > level, then beat you with experience." so why you are continuing that thread? People like you tend to classify others as a troll because you just don't agree. sad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 13:36:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8A71065670 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:36:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BDE8FC18 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [93.104.2.248] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SsZqw-00008P-TG; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:36:15 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q6LDaDCY003795; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:36:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id q6LDaCYk003794; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:36:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:36:11 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Manish Jain Message-ID: <20120721133611.GA3755@tinyCurrent> References: <201207210840.18122.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT r214444 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 93.104.2.248 Cc: Erich Dollansky , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to get Huawei EC1561 USB modem working under FreeBSD 8.2 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:36:25 -0000 El día Saturday, July 21, 2012 a las 06:01:11PM +0530, Manish Jain escribió: > > Hello Erich/Matthias, > > Thanks for your responses. > > I do not have the usbdump command on my system. usbconfig gives the > following output : > ... > ugen0.2: Conversion> at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=LOW (1.5Mbps) pwr=ON > ugen1.2: at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST > spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON > ugen2.2: at usbus2, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH > (480Mbps) pwr=SAVE > > > PFA ppp.log. As you will find, it repeatedly complains of /dev/cuaU0.0 > being an invalid file. But the output of 'ls -l' shows the contrary : > > ... > crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 143 Jul 21 17:38 cuaU0.0 > crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 144 Jul 21 17:38 cuaU0.0.init > crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 145 Jul 21 17:38 cuaU0.0.lock > crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 149 Jul 21 17:38 cuaU0.1 > crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 150 Jul 21 17:38 cuaU0.1.init > crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 151 Jul 21 17:38 cuaU0.1.lock > crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 155 Jul 21 17:38 cuaU0.2 > crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 156 Jul 21 17:38 cuaU0.2.init > crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 157 Jul 21 17:38 cuaU0.2.lock > crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 44 Jul 21 17:38 cuau0 > crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 45 Jul 21 17:38 cuau0.init > crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 46 Jul 21 17:38 cuau0.lock > ... > > > Thanks for any tips/help. Which port do I need to install to get usbdump ? First of all, do not top-post. 'usbdump' is part of the system, but only from beginning at some version; Are you sure that /dev/cuaU0.0 belongs to the modem? Please, detach it, look with 'ls -l /dev/cuaU*' if it went away, attach it again. Please show the messages from /var/log/messages on attach. If the /dev/cuaU0.0 device really belongs to the modem, install 'kermit' from the ports, create a file ~/.kermrc with set line /dev/cuaU0.0 set speed 9600 set escape 21 set carrier-watch off set rec pack 1000 set send pack 1000 set window 5 set prompt FreeBSD Kermit> and check it you can talk to the modem with kermit; the command ATI2 should say something about the modem device. One should be first able to talk to the modem with a terminal (like kermit), then bring chat(1) to work and after this watch ppp log, in that order. HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11 | UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2 | FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 14:10:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5DB1065677 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:10:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.skuhra@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8FA8FC1A for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:10:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so8565818pbb.13 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 07:10:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9NceKjC0Wi7q3Pe+KuFUoMj8Xoe62z0rYR3A6CPtwGA=; b=NOCpNEKLII7sCoUTph1n2smbcjhldqYc8+f0GY7f7DSduISasE/D2Mesp0AL111WOE G3rj5PF7izMpDLut6B9baRxslcr9rqcr2dvYzj/vGBJ+PzlTdDW66L3XxxPdbLa2sNMW T83zw8XDgJpLa0OlYT2uxeBuOPCwHcTyPcGvURhTxjtYZe/r/nq4SZWHb1Eqj7205CnG p+GbrsV7DJ9hWtyQGyKsMLsbKcfWsXhnme7Nj78eq0g9Epzh444uZG1NnbhMcrzJUE6H ALxMNbj2KPt8HrqAO06il1XkpsNJm+cIBhqE+NjH3Gmyl9Ef35GSBnOgx5X8AFQL1VDW dApw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.241.232 with SMTP id wl8mr21741939pbc.106.1342879857201; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 07:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.239.67 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 07:10:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87fw8yariq.wl%h.skuhra@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:10:56 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: Jails on FreeBSD 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:10:58 -0000 On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > Hi, > > ok, this is obviously a pf problem and the reason why the network in > the jail doesn't work. > > ifconfig lo1 create > ifconfig lo1 10.0.0.10 netmask 0xffffff00 > nc -s 10.0.0.10 xx.xx.xx.xx 25 > > With pf: connections fails; server receives SYN-ACK, but nc continues > sending SYNs until nc gives up > > With ipfw: connection OK > > On my Soekris box at home (9.1-PRERELEASE i386) both ipfw and pf works. Could this be a bug in the fxp driver? I have a 2nd machine with a fxp nic. Same problem. -- Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 14:38:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441A8106566C for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:38:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED29D8FC0A for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:38:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F5C5E1FA for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:38:06 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.063 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.063 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.160, BAYES_00=-2.599, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id WWCZH9xv-Cx2 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:38:04 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (unknown [195.216.54.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 132615E1E6 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:38:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <500ABECA.5010404@eskk.nu> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:38:02 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120620 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Power failure during portsnap fetch update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:38:13 -0000 My file system /usr/ports/net go damaged I've done fsck -F in single user mode but there are warnings about not being able to fix this. The directories below cannot be removed How do I go about this? Thanks /Leslie total 14 drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 512 21 Jul 16:13 ccxstream/ drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 512 21 Jul 16:28 netselect/ drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 512 21 Jul 16:17 spread/ drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 512 21 Jul 16:20 spread4/ drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 512 21 Jul 16:20 spread4/ drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 512 21 Jul 16:30 vde2/ drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 512 21 Jul 16:30 vde2/ root@bsd01/usr/ports/net:rm -r * rm: ccxstream: Invalid argument rm: netselect: Invalid argument rm: spread: Invalid argument rm: spread4: Invalid argument rm: spread4: Invalid argument rm: vde2: Invalid argument rm: vde2: Invalid argument From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 14:45:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C10106566B for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:45:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74168FC0A for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6LEiwj0001627; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:44:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6LEivvr001624; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:44:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:44:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Leslie Jensen In-Reply-To: <500ABECA.5010404@eskk.nu> Message-ID: References: <500ABECA.5010404@eskk.nu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:44:59 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Power failure during portsnap fetch update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:45:05 -0000 > > I've done fsck -F in single user mode but there are warnings about not being > able to fix this. without the messages from fsck i cannot help you. there are rare cases when mess gets written to inodes that fsck will not corrent it and you have to do it yourself. most often - using clri(8). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 14:55:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D50106564A for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:55:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850968FC0C for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-22-218.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.22.218]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188E43CF49; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:55:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q6LEtF1K002200; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:55:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:55:15 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Leslie Jensen Message-Id: <20120721165515.88e029b1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <500ABECA.5010404@eskk.nu> References: <500ABECA.5010404@eskk.nu> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Power failure during portsnap fetch update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:55:17 -0000 On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:38:02 +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > My file system /usr/ports/net go damaged > > I've done fsck -F in single user mode but there are warnings about not > being able to fix this. First of all, you should give fsck a second try. Check the damaged partition per "fsck -y /dev/ad0s1f" (which refers to that partition, e. g. /usr). > The directories below cannot be removed That indicates a major file system defect. > How do I go about this? There is a nice tool in the base system: clri (clear inode). Please note that you're going to "get your hands dirty" with this approach! First, determine the inodes of the "offending" directories. Use "ls -ldi" to do this. Example: # cd /usr/ports/net # ls -ldi ccxstream netselect spread vde2 288794 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 2011-08-21 03:14:43 ccxstream/ 331753 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 2011-08-21 03:16:10 netselect/ 424004 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 2011-08-21 03:17:50 spread/ 424104 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 2011-08-21 03:18:04 vde2/ Alternative: You can also use "stat" to obtain information about a file (and a directory) and its "health". Example: # cd /usr/ports/net # stat ccxstream netselect spread vde2 120 288794 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 1139829 512 "Jul 21 16:46:35 2012" "Aug 21 03:14:43 2011" "Aug 21 03:14:43 2011" "Feb 18 02:04:47 2011" 16384 4 0 ccxstream 120 331753 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 1325518 512 "Jul 21 16:46:35 2012" "Aug 21 03:16:10 2011" "Aug 21 03:16:10 2011" "Feb 18 02:04:58 2011" 16384 4 0 netselect 120 424004 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 1696620 512 "Jul 21 16:46:35 2012" "Aug 21 03:17:50 2011" "Aug 21 03:17:50 2011" "Feb 18 02:05:15 2011" 16384 4 0 spread 120 424104 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1696720 512 "Jul 21 16:46:35 2012" "Aug 21 03:18:04 2011" "Aug 21 03:18:04 2011" "Feb 18 02:05:18 2011" 16384 4 0 vde2 You recognize the inode numbers here. Write down the inode numbers or store them in a temporary file. You can script this process if you like. :-) Then "go out of" the partition and unmount it. You are safer if you apply clri to an UNMOUNTED partition. Then, for example, do this: # clri /dev/ad0s1f 288794 # clri /dev/ad0s1f 331753 # clri /dev/ad0s1f 424004 # clri /dev/ad0s1f 424104 Note that this directly modifies "file system bowels" of the /usr partition! When done, apply fsck again: # fsck -yf /dev/ad0s1f Maybe fsck finds some errors in inode construction and will therefore recover "lost data" (which we will accept as irrelevant at this point) into the lost+found/ root directory on that partition. You can remove its content later on. If fsck finishes with success, you should be able to mount the /usr partition again. Of course, some subdirecories in the ports tree are now missing, but that has been inteneded. Side note: You can use the program "fsdb" to investigate inode information in detail. See "man fsdb" and "man clri" for details. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 14:56:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B665106566B for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:56:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1208FC23 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B37C5E1DC; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:56:31 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.063 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.063 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.161, BAYES_00=-2.599, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596, UPPERCASE_50_75=0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id jLW3SdXPCLBW; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:56:29 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (unknown [195.216.54.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27A025E1B4; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:56:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <500AC31C.4090204@eskk.nu> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:56:28 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120620 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <500ABECA.5010404@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Power failure during portsnap fetch update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:56:31 -0000 2012-07-21 16:44, Wojciech Puchar skrev: >> >> I've done fsck -F in single user mode but there are warnings about not >> being able to fix this. > > without the messages from fsck i cannot help you. > > there are rare cases when mess gets written to inodes that fsck will not > corrent it and you have to do it yourself. most often - using clri(8). > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Here are the errors: root@bsd01~:fsck -F /dev/ad4s3f ** /dev/ad4s3f (NO WRITE) ** Last Mounted on /usr ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames MISSING '.' I=5021 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=512 MTIME=Jul 21 16:13 2012 DIR=? UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY FIX? no MISSING '.' I=123745 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=512 MTIME=Jul 21 16:17 2012 DIR=? UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY FIX? no MISSING '.' I=123796 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=512 MTIME=Jul 21 16:20 2012 DIR=? UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY FIX? no MISSING '.' I=169253 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=512 MTIME=Jul 21 16:30 2012 DIR=? UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY FIX? no MISSING '.' I=2571711 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=512 MTIME=Jul 21 16:28 2012 DIR=? UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY FIX? no MISSING '..' I=2571711 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=512 MTIME=Jul 21 16:28 2012 DIR=/ports/net/netselect UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY FIX? no MISSING '..' I=5021 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=512 MTIME=Jul 21 16:13 2012 DIR=/ports/net/ccxstream UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY FIX? no MISSING '..' I=123745 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=512 MTIME=Jul 21 16:17 2012 DIR=/ports/net/spread UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY FIX? no MISSING '..' I=123796 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=512 MTIME=Jul 21 16:20 2012 DIR=/ports/net/spread4 UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY FIX? no MISSING '..' I=169253 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=512 MTIME=Jul 21 16:30 2012 DIR=/ports/net/vde2 UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY FIX? no ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts LINK COUNT DIR I=5021 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=512 MTIME=Jul 21 16:13 2012 COUNT 1 SHOULD BE 2 LINK COUNT INCREASING UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY ADJUST? no LINK COUNT DIR I=123745 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=512 MTIME=Jul 21 16:17 2012 COUNT 1 SHOULD BE 2 LINK COUNT INCREASING UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY ADJUST? no LINK COUNT DIR I=123796 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=512 MTIME=Jul 21 16:20 2012 COUNT 1 SHOULD BE 2 LINK COUNT INCREASING UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY ADJUST? no LINK COUNT DIR I=169253 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=512 MTIME=Jul 21 16:30 2012 COUNT 1 SHOULD BE 2 LINK COUNT INCREASING UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY ADJUST? no LINK COUNT DIR I=2124226 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=27136 MTIME=Jul 21 16:32 2012 COUNT 4 SHOULD BE 5 LINK COUNT INCREASING UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY ADJUST? no LINK COUNT DIR I=2571711 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=512 MTIME=Jul 21 16:28 2012 COUNT 1 SHOULD BE 2 LINK COUNT INCREASING UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY ADJUST? no ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups 263573 files, 3718492 used, 6942235 free (204667 frags, 842196 blocks, 1.9% fragmentation) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 14:59:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9362F1065676 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:59:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9C38FC15 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:59:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6LExe8D001691; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:59:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6LExeJn001688; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:59:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:59:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Leslie Jensen In-Reply-To: <500AC31C.4090204@eskk.nu> Message-ID: References: <500ABECA.5010404@eskk.nu> <500AC31C.4090204@eskk.nu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:59:40 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Power failure during portsnap fetch update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:59:45 -0000 how about fsck_ffs -y / in single user mode? seems like no clri is needed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 15:13:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3E01065672 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:13:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AFA8FC1A for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:13:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-22-218.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.22.218]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00DC27C6F; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:06:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q6LF6EJS002244; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:06:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:06:14 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Leslie Jensen Message-Id: <20120721170614.6534450c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <500AC31C.4090204@eskk.nu> References: <500ABECA.5010404@eskk.nu> <500AC31C.4090204@eskk.nu> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Power failure during portsnap fetch update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:13:03 -0000 On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:56:28 +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote: > Here are the errors: > > > root@bsd01~:fsck -F /dev/ad4s3f > ** /dev/ad4s3f (NO WRITE) ^^^^^^^^ In that case, fsck won't correct any errors. Good for checking, bad for repairing! Make sure the partition isn't mounted (e. g. right after entering SUM after a "boot -s" system start) and run: # fsck -yf /dev/ad4s3f This will tell fsck to perform the check anyway (-f) and answer YES (-y) to all questions regarding file system modification. If you feel unhappy with this quite "brutal approach", leave out the -y parameter and answer the questions yourself. The error messages you did show in the form of > MISSING '.' I=5021 OWNER=root MODE=40755 > SIZE=512 MTIME=Jul 21 16:13 2012 > DIR=? > > UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY > > FIX? no and > MISSING '..' I=2571711 OWNER=root MODE=40755 > SIZE=512 MTIME=Jul 21 16:28 2012 > DIR=/ports/net/netselect > > UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY > > FIX? no as well as > LINK COUNT DIR I=5021 OWNER=root MODE=40755 > SIZE=512 MTIME=Jul 21 16:13 2012 COUNT 1 SHOULD BE 2 > LINK COUNT INCREASING > UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY > > ADJUST? no show that the inodes of several directories have been damaged. This perfectly fits your observation of not being able to remove those directories. You _need_ to repair the file system in order to proceed. First let fsck try to do its job. If it fails to do so, attempt to manually "repair" the inodes (by removing them altogether). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 15:18:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E35106564A for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:18:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5CA8FC0A for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:18:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3F24B2002; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:18:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.063 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.063 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.160, BAYES_00=-2.599, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id kyQRoqXoYSP9; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:18:14 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (unknown [195.216.54.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5AEB4B2001; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:18:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <500AC834.2010109@eskk.nu> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:18:12 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120620 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <500ABECA.5010404@eskk.nu> <500AC31C.4090204@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Power failure during portsnap fetch update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:18:16 -0000 2012-07-21 16:59, Wojciech Puchar skrev: > how about fsck_ffs -y / in single user mode? > > seems like no clri is needed. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" It fixed the problem :-) Thank you very much. /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 15:33:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531A1106566C for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:33:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C858FC0C for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:33:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6LFXPwv001815; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:33:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6LFXP42001812; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:33:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:33:25 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Leslie Jensen In-Reply-To: <500AC834.2010109@eskk.nu> Message-ID: References: <500ABECA.5010404@eskk.nu> <500AC31C.4090204@eskk.nu> <500AC834.2010109@eskk.nu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:33:25 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Power failure during portsnap fetch update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:33:31 -0000 >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > It fixed the problem :-) > you may "risk" putting fsck_y_enable=YES in your rc.conf i put background_fsck=NO in /etc/rc.conf too From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 15:39:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA09F1065673 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0F58FC14 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:39:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842C74B2001; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:39:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.063 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.063 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.160, BAYES_00=-2.599, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id n98vIn4aw7fo; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:39:12 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (unknown [195.216.54.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7997E5E1DC; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:39:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <500ACD1F.2010204@eskk.nu> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:39:11 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120620 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <500ABECA.5010404@eskk.nu> <500AC31C.4090204@eskk.nu> <500AC834.2010109@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Power failure during portsnap fetch update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:39:14 -0000 2012-07-21 17:33, Wojciech Puchar skrev: >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> It fixed the problem :-) >> > you may "risk" putting > > fsck_y_enable=YES > > in your rc.conf > > > > > i put background_fsck=NO in /etc/rc.conf too > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Thank you for the advise. I'll put it in rc.conf /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 15:54:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3F3106564A for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:54:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1343317878.8c3573@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (3s1.com [209.161.205.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428778FC0C for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:54:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 3s1.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 3s1.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6LFpInS049073 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:51:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david+dated+1343317878.8c3573@skytracker.ca) Received: (from david@localhost) by 3s1.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id q6LFpIWD049072 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:51:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david+dated+1343317878.8c3573@skytracker.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: 3s1.com: david set sender to david+dated+1343317878.8c3573@skytracker.ca using -f Received: by 3s1.com (tmda-sendmail, from uid 1000); Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:51:18 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:51:17 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120721155117.GA48493@skytracker.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: David Banning Cc: Subject: error compiling mplayer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:54:47 -0000 getting this error on compile of mplayer; /usr/local/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so: undefined reference to `XRRGetScreenResourcesCurrent' /usr/local/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so: undefined reference to `XRRGetOutputPrimary' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status gmake: *** [mplayer] Error 1 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer. *** Error code 1 I wonder if anyone could direct me as to how I could collect more information to resolve this. FreeBSD version is 8.2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 15:59:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F3E1065694 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3908FC0A for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:59:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [93.104.2.248] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ssc5U-000526-KF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:59:24 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q6LFxNQ7004806 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:59:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id q6LFxM1S004805 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:59:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:59:22 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120721155922.GA4774@tinyCurrent> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT r214444 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 93.104.2.248 Subject: setting up an openssl client/server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:59:26 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to build openssl keys to be used in a client/server connection by the following procedure: http://acs.lbl.gov/~boverhof/openssl_certs.html Generating Client/Server certificates with a local CA Generate a CA 1) openssl req -out ca.pem -new -x509 -generates CA file "ca.pem" and CA key "privkey.pem" Generate server certificate/key pair - no password required. 2) openssl genrsa -out server.key 1024 3) openssl req -key server.key -new -out server.req 4) openssl x509 -req -in server.req -CA ca.pem -CAkey privkey.pem -CAserial file.srl -out server.pem (contents of "file.srl" is a two digit number. eg. "00") Generate client certificate/key pair 5) Either choose to encrypt the key(a) or not(b) a. Encrypt the client key with a passphrase openssl genrsa -des3 -out client.key 1024 b. Don't encrypt the client key (I used this) openssl genrsa -out client.key 1024 6) openssl req -key client.key -new -out client.req 7) openssl x509 -req -in client.req -CA ca.pem -CAkey privkey.pem -CAserial file.srl -out client.pem Then I copy over the files client.pem and server.pem to the example software: $ cp server.pem client.pem openssl-examples-20020110 but the server can't understand the file server.pem: $ openssl-examples-20020110/wserver Can't read key file 4783:error:0906D06C:PEM routines:PEM_read_bio:no start line:/usr/home/guru/myThings/FreeBSD/9-CURRENT/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/pem/pem_lib.c:650:Expecting: ANY PRIVATE KEY 4783:error:140B0009:SSL routines:SSL_CTX_use_PrivateKey_file:PEM lib:/usr/home/guru/myThings/FreeBSD/9-CURRENT/src/secure/lib/libssl/../../../crypto/openssl/ssl/ssl_rsa.c:669: $ cat openssl-examples-20020110/server.pem -----BEGIN CERTIFICATE----- MIIB+TCCAWICAQMwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwRTELMAkGA1UEBhMCQVUxEzARBgNV BAgTClNvbWUtU3RhdGUxITAfBgNVBAoTGEludGVybmV0IFdpZGdpdHMgUHR5IEx0 ZDAeFw0xMjA3MjExNTM0MTZaFw0xMjA4MjAxNTM0MTZaMEUxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkFV MRMwEQYDVQQIEwpTb21lLVN0YXRlMSEwHwYDVQQKExhJbnRlcm5ldCBXaWRnaXRz IFB0eSBMdGQwgZ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADgY0AMIGJAoGBAMSYH6rEOJHR86gi IvkPlWIFTSjAdxw/M/RWiRVSF7nPyDrdjfZ6T6uCGu+gax72SOt3uGCGKKtWa58z 1R9EVvU5OhJNUDXU72yFAKpcAH04ysdf2eNyInMbj+s+DYNukrVofTnrkqjAq2YS 0fOQmH2LbmjKTn4Ia9d9iEFXvR4/AgMBAAEwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADgYEAT3Vm EonQgYTwnktQMeRi7Uo40IYVXd3rNHeJFobVszP7ladNtBdjRAhD+03rbXBahxDA IGo68N8LdS5wxdUjQizmyTCsBJI2oTpQeSkZ0BrDExs8NCz8OzhskdMdgRw3JUXD tM6F1CUQbvpelHg9Yg3ILA5a4LE+nH774SyL+cE= -----END CERTIFICATE----- Perhaps something is wrong with the way used to generate the keys, but what? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11 | UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2 | FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 16:24:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D441106566B for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64D68FC0C for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:24:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374425E1E6 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:24:29 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.063 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.063 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.160, BAYES_00=-2.599, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id MEmE7AthTJHe for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:24:27 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (unknown [195.216.54.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C0415E1DC for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:24:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <500AD7BA.70702@eskk.nu> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:24:26 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120620 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: X server already running on display :0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:24:29 -0000 I have a problem that I do not understand. At the prompt I give the command startx I get a message that /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 does not exist. Copy the file from another system and I get X server already running on display :0 /usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc: Can't open /usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc: File or catalog does not exist I have not knowingly made any changes to this machine. Any suggestions? Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 16:42:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4744F106566B for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:42:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934608FC08 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:42:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6LGg47x002017; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:42:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6LGg4lt002014; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:42:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:42:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Leslie Jensen In-Reply-To: <500AD7BA.70702@eskk.nu> Message-ID: References: <500AD7BA.70702@eskk.nu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:42:04 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X server already running on display :0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:42:15 -0000 > > At the prompt I give the command startx > > I get a message that /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 does not exist. > > Copy the file from another system and I get copying files instead of installing packages isn't bright idea, unless you copy complete /usr/local tree. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 16:55:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3AA1065674 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8DDF8FC16 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:55:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3895E204; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:55:01 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.063 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.063 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.160, BAYES_00=-2.599, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id euxKgHhA3WhI; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:54:59 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (unknown [195.216.54.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6F7F5E1E6; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:54:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <500ADEE2.1050805@eskk.nu> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:54:58 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120620 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <500AD7BA.70702@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X server already running on display :0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:55:02 -0000 2012-07-21 18:42, Wojciech Puchar skrev: >> >> At the prompt I give the command startx >> >> I get a message that /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 does not exist. >> >> Copy the file from another system and I get > > copying files instead of installing packages isn't bright idea, unless > you copy complete /usr/local tree. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I understand that, but I needed to approach the problem some way to get some information. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 17:16:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA788106564A for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:16:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6C38FC08 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:16:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6LHGsl1004447; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:16:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6LHGs7U004444; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:16:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:16:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Leslie Jensen In-Reply-To: <500AD7BA.70702@eskk.nu> Message-ID: References: <500AD7BA.70702@eskk.nu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:16:55 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X server already running on display :0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:16:59 -0000 > Copy the file from another system and I get > > X server already running on display :0 > /usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc: Can't open > /usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc: File or catalog does not exist this is an answer i think From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 17:19:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8E7106564A for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:19:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166CE8FC08 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:19:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6LHJFi5004477 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:19:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6LHJFNj004474 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:19:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:19:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:19:15 +0200 (CEST) Subject: xdm and gdm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:19:18 -0000 i run xdm normally. after logging it runs my $HOME/.xsession that starts things like fvwm2 i wanted to run gnome-session once, changed fvwm2 to /usr/local/bin/gnome-sessions after loggin in it just exits. no .xsession-errors is created. no idea where to seek error messages at all. with gdm loading gnome works. any ideas? (except: "just use gdm" please) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 18:02:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D94D106566B for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:02:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from ifdnrg30.ifdnrg.com (ifdnrg30.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985EE8FC0C for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:02:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (cpc11-sgyl31-2-0-cust300.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com [94.175.93.45]) (authenticated bits=0) by ifdnrg30.ifdnrg.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6LHkxaA053194 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:47:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <500AEB17.6030907@ifdnrg.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:47:03 +0100 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: amd64, 57600 serial install help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:02:55 -0000 what am i doing wrong here? From rebuilding the install iso and from the handbook instructions here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-advanced.html which suggests that in /boot/loader.conf only console="comconsole" is required, i have tried this and also explicity setting speed in boot/loader.conf console="comconsole" comconsole_speed="57600" i have also tried having the settings i use to access via serial post install ie: /etc/ttys: ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.57600" vt100 on secure and /boot/config: -D but same result, install stops ( or goes elsewhere at point below) It does boot stage 1 and stage 2 then i get nothing? test serial output: ----------------------------------------- CD Loader 1.2 r Configuration Menu ... Building the boot loader arguments Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found Relocating the loader and the BTX Starting the BTX loader BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.02 Consoles: internal video/keyboard BIOS CD is cd0 in 5 sec...... BIOS drive A: is disk0 BIOS drive C: is disk1 BIOS 640kB/3668736kB available memory FreeBSD/x86 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 (root@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu, Tue Jan 3 06:51:49 UTC 2012) àààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààà (nothing after this point) -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07970339546 e: paul@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com ------------------------- IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA ------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 18:30:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D658106564A for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:30:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD588FC0A for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:30:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-22-218.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.22.218]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E553627DF6; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:30:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q6LIUDee002050; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:30:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:30:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Leslie Jensen Message-Id: <20120721203013.bc0b05ca.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <500AD7BA.70702@eskk.nu> References: <500AD7BA.70702@eskk.nu> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X server already running on display :0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:30:16 -0000 On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:24:26 +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > > I have a problem that I do not understand. > > At the prompt I give the command startx > > I get a message that /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 does not exist. This means your ~/.xinitrc contains a call to launch Xfce 4, typically the last command, prefixed by "exec", in that file. It seems you don't have Xfce 4 installed. > Copy the file from another system and I get > > X server already running on display :0 > /usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc: Can't open > /usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc: File or catalog does not exist > > I have not knowingly made any changes to this machine. It's not sufficient to copy just this start script (out of the Xfce 4 software package). You need to _completely_ install it, including all dependencies. You can use "pkg_add -r" to do this, or use the xfce metaport per "make install". > Any suggestions? Just install Xfce 4 in one of the usual ways. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 18:37:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C29B106564A for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:37:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5788FC08 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:37:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-22-218.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.22.218]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC9527DFE; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:37:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q6LIbM2A002073; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:37:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:37:22 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Wojciech Puchar Message-Id: <20120721203722.476df334.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xdm and gdm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:37:23 -0000 On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:19:15 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > i run xdm normally. after logging it runs my $HOME/.xsession that starts > things like fvwm2 > > i wanted to run gnome-session once, changed fvwm2 to > /usr/local/bin/gnome-sessions ^ Is this a typo? According to the Handbook, /usr/local/bin/gnome-session (without trailing 's') should be executed. Source: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html See 6.7.1.2: Installing GNOME. > after loggin in it just exits. no .xsession-errors is created. no idea > where to seek error messages at all. Maybe errors are reported to the 1st virtual terminal where the XDM process outputs its messages to (currently not running xdm, so I can't check). > with gdm loading gnome works. Do you have gdm_enable="YES" gnome_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf, and /proc mounted, as suggested in the Handbook? Maybe gdm has some "preparations" that aren't found by gnome-session when started autonomously. But the Handbook says it works without GDM, so it should work either per .xinitrc ("startx" command) _and_ also with xdm (and therefore with wdm and others). > any ideas? (except: "just use gdm" please) Just use... computer. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 18:38:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D10106566B for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:38:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 034488FC1D for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:38:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SseZB-0002jZ-9O for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:38:13 +0200 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:38:13 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:38:13 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:38:01 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 18 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:13.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/13.0.1) Subject: Security - linker env variables X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:38:22 -0000 Hi, Security question: should the environment variable LD_RUN_PATH be part of (present in) ports' Makefiles, configure files, build scripts, etc ? ld(1): ... -rpath=dir -rpath-link=dir ... Search results (do it yourself): $ grep -r LD_RUN_PATH /usr/ports/ ... jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 18:40:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD038106566B for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:40:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFB18FC22 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:40:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6LIei0d005051; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:40:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6LIeiMl005048; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:40:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:40:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20120721203722.476df334.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20120721203722.476df334.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:40:44 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xdm and gdm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:40:50 -0000 > Is this a typo? > > According to the Handbook, /usr/local/bin/gnome-session > (without trailing 's') should be executed. indeed a typo. thank you. >> after loggin in it just exits. no .xsession-errors is created. no idea >> where to seek error messages at all. > > Maybe errors are reported to the 1st virtual terminal > where the XDM process outputs its messages to (currently > not running xdm, so I can't check). there are imho nowhere. > > Do you have > > gdm_enable="YES" > gnome_enable="YES" > > in /etc/rc.conf, and /proc mounted, as suggested in the Handbook? > Maybe gdm has some "preparations" that aren't found by gnome-session > when started autonomously. But the Handbook says it works without gdm is fine and works. the problem is that i wasn't able to my non-gnome .xsession work properly with gdm at all. at the same time i like xdm and want to use, RARELY use it to run gnome. Do you have any data about preparations that gdm do? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 18:42:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6A5106564A for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:42:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA868FC1D for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:42:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6LIgILW005060 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:42:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6LIgHqD005057 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:42:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:42:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:42:18 +0200 (CEST) Subject: gvirstor - any production users here? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:42:21 -0000 from manual page it seems good. But is it actually stable? How one can free unused space from gvirstor device? (eg. i made a partition and don't need it any more). thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 19:01:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB23106566C for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDEC68FC19 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:01:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-22-218.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.22.218]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355E424551; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 21:01:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q6LJ1K6R002200; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 21:01:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 21:01:20 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Wojciech Puchar Message-Id: <20120721210120.20b4abe8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20120721203722.476df334.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xdm and gdm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:01:22 -0000 On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:40:44 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> after loggin in it just exits. no .xsession-errors is created. no idea > >> where to seek error messages at all. > > > > Maybe errors are reported to the 1st virtual terminal > > where the XDM process outputs its messages to (currently > > not running xdm, so I can't check). > > there are imho nowhere. When I do "startx", the vitrual terminal from which I issue this command will capture the messages related to X. In case of xdm, I did assume that would be ttyv0 implicitely. > Do you have any data about preparations that gdm do? The Handbook mentions /proc to be mounted, but that's not related. The settings gdm_enable="YES" gnome_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf would (if I understand the mechanism correctly) correspond to scripts /usr/local/etc/rc.d/gdm /usr/local/etc/rc.d/gnome respectively. So any possibly relevant preparations should be done by those scripts. I can't check those as I haven't got Gnome installed here. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 19:16:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2806E1065672 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:16:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from server6.mbg.se (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:28:60a::106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D429C8FC0A for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:16:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.17.0.140] ([195.216.54.140]) (authenticated bits=0) by server6.mbg.se (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6LJGddh084540 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 21 Jul 2012 21:16:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 21:16:31 +0200 Message-ID: Importance: normal From: Leslie Jensen To: wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-96.3 required=7.0 tests=HELO_MISC_IP,HTML_MESSAGE, RDNS_NONE, TO_NO_BRKTS_DIRECT, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on server6.mbg.se Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SV: Re: X server already running on display :0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Leslie Jensen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:16:45 -0000 VHJ1ZSEgSSBjb3BpZWQgdGhpcyBmaWxlIGFzIHdlbGwgYW5kIG5vdyB4ZmNlIHN0YXJ0cyBhcyB1 c3VhbC7CoAovTGVzbGllCgpXb2pjaWVjaCBQdWNoYXIgPHdvanRla0B3b2p0ZWsudGVuc29yLmdk eW5pYS5wbD4gc2tyZXY6PiBDb3B5IHRoZSBmaWxlIGZyb20gYW5vdGhlciBzeXN0ZW0gYW5kIEkg Z2V0Cj4KPiBYIHNlcnZlciBhbHJlYWR5IHJ1bm5pbmcgb24gZGlzcGxheSA6MAo+IC91c3IvbG9j YWwvZXRjL3hkZy94ZmNlNC94aW5pdHJjOiBDYW4ndCBvcGVuIAo+IC91c3IvbG9jYWwvZXRjL3hk Zy94ZmNlNC94aW5pdHJjOiBGaWxlIG9yIGNhdGFsb2cgZG9lcyBub3QgZXhpc3QKdGhpcyBpcyBh biBhbnN3ZXIgaSB0aGluawo= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 17:42:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61722106566B for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:42:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogreentechnologies.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356728FC14 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:42:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q6LHg873001449; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:42:21 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: ALO Green Technologies Pte Ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 00:44:12 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/10.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <201207210759.q6L7xeka004536@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201207210759.q6L7xeka004536@mail.r-bonomi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201207220044.12910.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:19:35 +0000 Cc: Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: Help solving the sysadm's nightmare X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:42:34 -0000 Hi, what or who stops you from making a copy of the machine and start testing there? This is the only valid option if you do not want to interrupt a running server. Erich On Saturday 21 July 2012 14:59:40 Robert Bonomi wrote: > > > From: Wojciech Puchar > > Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:12:05 +0200 (CEST) > > Subject: Re: Help solving the sysadm's nightmare > > > > [[ sarcastic comment with no useful value removed ]] > > > > it's a mess, and ofcourse everything is "critical" there is no room for > > > interruption of service. > > > > > > Now, I have no idea which processes actually require access to those > > > files, what privileges these processes run with and which files are > > > actually executable or just plain files. > > i can only help you with base system and ports permissions, and /var and > > /etc > > > > just look how it should be > > Of gourse, setting system/ports permissins back to the way "it should be" > WILL re-introduce the problems that were 'solved' by the prior administrator > changing permissiona as descrribed, resulting in UNACCEPTABLE interruption > of operations -- quote: > "Everything is 'critical' there is no room for interruption of service." > > > > What I know is that lots of files are on samba shares and lots of files > > > are used by uniface9 application, but I don't know much about uniface > > > or if this is actually executed on the client or on the server. > > > > look at samba config to check as what user directories are accessed. set > > it as such user and chmod 700 is enough. > > While that "instruction" may have some relevance to _some_ situations, there > is *NO* guarantee that, say, multiple users in a given department of the > business do _not_ require access to files in the 'user directory' of another > employee in that same department. > > While one can argue -- with some validity -- that things "should not" be > that way, one _cannot_ guarantee that such is not the case. ESPECIALLY, > given the mind-set of the prior admin(s). > > Thus, changing permissions 'as directed' _does_ have a definite possibilit > of causing unacceptable interruption of critical services. > > > > So, how can I > > > > > - determine which users actually need read or write access to these > > > files? > > > > lsof will not help you. > > Using lsof will *DEFINITELY* _help_ -- in identifying which applications > access which files. lsof output will not be comprehensive/complete, because > a single lsof run only produces a snapshot of what currentl-running processes > have what files open at that time. But it *DOES* provide a 'starting point', > a list of the files that the running applications are _proven_ to require > access to. Changing permissions on those lsof-identified files, such that > the application in question does _not_ have access to it *WILL* break that > application. > > Knowing what -not- to do -- because "doing that thing" _will_ break > something -- is a _critical_ part of determining what =can= be done. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 19:50:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73C61065670 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:50:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4B18FC20 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:50:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6LJoHrB009592; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 21:50:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6LJoGH3009589; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 21:50:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 21:50:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20120721210120.20b4abe8.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20120721203722.476df334.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120721210120.20b4abe8.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 21 Jul 2012 21:50:17 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SOLVED: xdm and gdm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:50:26 -0000 adding DisplayManager*authName: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 solves the problem. > > > >> Do you have any data about preparations that gdm do? > > The Handbook mentions /proc to be mounted, but that's not > related. The settings > > gdm_enable="YES" > gnome_enable="YES" > > in /etc/rc.conf would (if I understand the mechanism correctly) > correspond to scripts > > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/gdm > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/gnome > > respectively. So any possibly relevant preparations should be > done by those scripts. I can't check those as I haven't got > Gnome installed here. > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 21:07:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630B2106566B for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 21:07:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihsan@grep.my) Received: from svc02-kul.b.n3labs.my (svc02-kul.b.n3labs.my [IPv6:2400:3700:10::61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5DF8FC08 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 21:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2400:3700:49::4021:aae7:f9cf:530e] (unknown [IPv6:2400:3700:49:0:4021:aae7:f9cf:530e]) by svc02-kul.b.n3labs.my (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 37A22C60221; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 05:07:12 +0800 (MYT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim In-Reply-To: <500AEB17.6030907@ifdnrg.com> Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 05:06:50 +0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <19763FC3-D71E-480D-82DE-FDF38140B4E5@grep.my> References: <500AEB17.6030907@ifdnrg.com> To: Paul Macdonald X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64, 57600 serial install help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 21:07:22 -0000 I assume you have compiled the bootblocks as per the instruction in the = handbook. Second, do you have more than one serial port on the box because FreeBSD = can only work its serial console magic on only one port at a time. If you redirect your IPMI serial console or just a normal serial = console, take note it's interrupt number in the BIOS. You'll need to append the 0x10 flags to your UART device in device.hints = file if the you plug in the cable at a non-default port. ihsan On Jul 22, 2012, at 1:47 AM, Paul Macdonald wrote: >=20 > what am i doing wrong here? >=20 > =46rom rebuilding the install iso and from the handbook instructions = here: = http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-advanced= .html > which suggests that in /boot/loader.conf only >=20 > console=3D"comconsole" >=20 > is required, >=20 > i have tried this and also explicity setting speed in boot/loader.conf >=20 > console=3D"comconsole" > comconsole_speed=3D"57600" >=20 > i have also tried having the settings i use to access via serial post = install > ie: >=20 > /etc/ttys: ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.57600" vt100 on = secure > and /boot/config: -D >=20 > but same result, install stops ( or goes elsewhere at point below) >=20 > It does boot stage 1 and stage 2 then i get nothing? >=20 > test serial output: > ----------------------------------------- > CD Loader 1.2 > r Configuration Menu ... > Building the boot loader arguments > Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found > Relocating the loader and the BTX > Starting the BTX loader >=20 > BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.02 > Consoles: internal video/keyboard > BIOS CD is cd0 in 5 sec...... > BIOS drive A: is disk0 > BIOS drive C: is disk1 > BIOS 640kB/3668736kB available memory >=20 > FreeBSD/x86 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 > (root@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu, Tue Jan 3 06:51:49 UTC 2012) > = =E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0= =E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0= =E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0= =E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=20 >=20 > (nothing after this point) >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > ------------------------- > Paul Macdonald > IFDNRG Ltd > Web and video hosting > ------------------------- > t: 0131 5548070 > m: 07970339546 > e: paul@ifdnrg.com > w: http://www.ifdnrg.com > ------------------------- > IFDNRG > 40 Maritime Street > Edinburgh > EH6 6SA > ------------------------- >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"