From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 19 17:37:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E72A106564A; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:37:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gw.catspoiler.org (gw.catspoiler.org [75.1.14.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4218FC08; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from FreeBSD.org (mousie.catspoiler.org [192.168.101.2]) by gw.catspoiler.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id q7JHbCr5010382; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:37:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <201208191737.q7JHbCr5010382@gw.catspoiler.org> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:37:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis To: killing@multiplay.co.uk In-Reply-To: <3711745674C24A98A4AE726EC6342721@multiplay.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, gkontos.mail@gmail.com, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: LSI 9240-4i 4K alignment X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:37:28 -0000 On 16 Aug, Steven Hartland wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George Kontostanos" > >> You are right, the chip specs say: LSISAS2108 RAID-on-Chip >> >> The drives are identified as mfisyspd0, mfisyspd1, etc. > > The following might be interesting to you:- > http://forums.servethehome.com/showthread.php?599-LSI-RAID-Controller-and-HBA-Complete-Listing-Plus-OEM-Models > > Which states:- > LSI MegaRAID SAS 9240-4i 1x4 port internal SAS vertical, > no cache, no BBU, RAID 0, 1, 10 and 5, can be crossflashed > to LSI9211 IT/IR > > This is insteresting as this is the card we're using but > in the 8 port version under mps :) I wish I would have known this earlier. I just put together a ZFS server using LSI MegaRAID SAS 9240-8i cards. The cabling probably would have been cleaner with the 9211-8i, but I went with the 9240 because the vendor that I purchased the cards from listed that 9240 as being PCI-Express 2.0, but didn't say that about the 9211. I also got the impression that the 9240 recognized JBOD drives with the off-the-shelf firmware, whereas the 9211 did not. Even LSI's own site is a bit confusing. They list the 9211 in the HBA section, but its specs don't mention JBOD, whereas the 9240 is listed in the RAID section and its specs do list JBOD. If the only physical difference between the cards is the connector position, it seems odd that they don't offer products with all the combinations of firmware and connector position. I haven't configured the ZFS pool yet, but I didn't have any trouble installing FreeBSD 9.1-BETA on the GPT partitioned boot drive, which shows up as an mfi device. I'm planning on getting the ZFS pool up and running in the next few days. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 19 17:58:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D80106564A for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:58:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gw.catspoiler.org (gw.catspoiler.org [75.1.14.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1738FC0A for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:58:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from FreeBSD.org (mousie.catspoiler.org [192.168.101.2]) by gw.catspoiler.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id q7JHw5xG010417; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:58:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <201208191758.q7JHw5xG010417@gw.catspoiler.org> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:58:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis To: gkontos.mail@gmail.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: LSI 9240-4i 4K alignment X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:58:13 -0000 On 8 Aug, George Kontostanos wrote: > Hi all, > > We have a server with a LSI 9240-4i controller configured in JBOD with > 4 SATA disks. Running FreeBSD 9.1-Beta1: > > Relevant dmesg: > > FreeBSD 9.1-BETA1 #0: Thu Jul 12 09:38:51 UTC 2012 > root@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E31230 @ 3.20GHz (3200.09-MHz K8-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x206a7 Family = 6 Model = 2a Stepping = 7 > Features=0xbfebfbff > Features2=0x1fbae3ff > AMD Features=0x28100800 > AMD Features2=0x1 > TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics > real memory = 17179869184 (16384 MB) > avail memory = 16471670784 (15708 MB) > ... > mfi0: port 0xe000-0xe0ff mem > 0xf7a60000-0xf7a63fff,0xf7a00000-0xf7a3ffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on > pci1 > mfi0: Using MSI > mfi0: Megaraid SAS driver Ver 4.23 > ... > mfi0: 321 (397672301s/0x0020/info) - Shutdown command received from host > mfi0: 322 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware initialization started > (PCI ID 0073/1000/9241/1000) > mfi0: 323 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware version 2.130.354-1664 > mfi0: 324 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware initialization started > (PCI ID 0073/1000/9241/1000) > mfi0: 325 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware version 2.130.354-1664 > mfi0: 326 (boot + 5s/0x0020/info) - Package version 20.10.1-0107 > mfi0: 327 (boot + 5s/0x0020/info) - Board Revision 03A > mfi0: 328 (boot + 25s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 04(e0xff/s3) > ... > mfisyspd0 on mfi0 > mfisyspd0: 1907729MB (3907029168 sectors) SYSPD volume > mfisyspd0: SYSPD volume attached > mfisyspd1 on mfi0 > mfisyspd1: 1907729MB (3907029168 sectors) SYSPD volume > mfisyspd1: SYSPD volume attached > mfisyspd2 on mfi0 > mfisyspd2: 1907729MB (3907029168 sectors) SYSPD volume > mfisyspd2: SYSPD volume attached > mfisyspd3 on mfi0 > mfisyspd3: 1907729MB (3907029168 sectors) SYSPD volume > mfisyspd3: SYSPD volume attached > ... > mfi0: 329 (boot + 25s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 04(e0xff/s3) Info: > enclPd=ffff, scsiType=0, portMap=00, > sasAddr=4433221100000000,0000000000000000 > mfi0: 330 (boot + 25s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 05(e0xff/s1) > mfi0: 331 (boot + 25s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 05(e0xff/s1) Info: > enclPd=ffff, scsiType=0, portMap=02, > sasAddr=4433221102000000,0000000000000000 > mfi0: 332 (boot + 25s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 06(e0xff/s2) > mfi0: 333 (boot + 25s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 06(e0xff/s2) Info: > enclPd=ffff, scsiType=0, portMap=03, > sasAddr=4433221101000000,0000000000000000 > mfi0: 334 (boot + 25s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 07(e0xff/s0) > mfi0: 335 (boot + 25s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 07(e0xff/s0) Info: > enclPd=ffff, scsiType=0, portMap=01, > sasAddr=4433221103000000,0000000000000000 > mfi0: 336 (397672376s/0x0020/info) - Time established as 08/07/12 > 16:32:56; (28 seconds since power on) > > The problem: > > When trying to create a RaidZ pool using gpart and perform a 4K > alignment using gnop, we get the follwoing error immediately after > exporting the pool and destroying the .nop devices: > > id: 8043746387654554958 > state: FAULTED > status: One or more devices contains corrupted data. > action: The pool cannot be imported due to damaged devices or data. > The pool may be active on another system, but can be imported using > the '-f' flag. > see: http://illumos.org/msg/ZFS-8000-5E > config: > > Pool FAULTED corrupted data > raidz1-0 ONLINE > 13283347160590042564 UNAVAIL corrupted data > 16981727992215676534 UNAVAIL corrupted data > 6607570030658834339 UNAVAIL corrupted data > 3435463242860701988 UNAVAIL corrupted data I'm planning on doing something similar, but I'm curious about how gnop and GPT labels interact. I want to partition the drives for my pool slightly on the small side so that I'm less likely to run into problems if I have to replace a drive in the future. If I used gpart to create and label a GPT partition on the drive, the partition will show up as /dev/gpt/label. The gnop man page says that running gnop on dev creates /dev/dev.nop. What happens if you gnop /dev/gpt/label? Is this what you are doing? > When we use glabel for the same purpose with the combination of gnop, > the pool imports fine. > > Any suggestions? It should be sufficient to only gnop one of the devices. You should be able to create the pool with only one gnop device to get the ashift value that you desire, export the pool, destroy the .nop device, and import the pool. If it things the device is corrupted (which seems like a bug of some sort), then ZFS should be able to resilver it. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 19 18:07:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E9C106566C; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 18:07:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkontos.mail@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86B28FC1E; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 18:07:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbgb22 with SMTP id gb22so5643227vcb.13 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:07:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=SQPFuNf/OUqihfQOyITzeqiXVUVED0ZU7/mpqCVSklY=; b=cHtAiYp9A9QkPV8obZbLy1HDQ6rtgfqFch2CCd8xJurOqjHY/73R2uViTkdqIQ3hqb 4ykDEf32cbdNli0KQqX0/WPO45BIuwM8ecQn5Sl7t34pCc/LQ+FF+3R5GstnYLNSqedg gWZ52OusGFZhTjPWxK0oizS4zKy0tgVFp7UoG4GQXTl/reByaEBJQGP1YEEkilmtTWtV fjjvgkvlgajYBS5cDEiBiTfCxAEhlJ9Pf9BPfrK4PJ81DBTJLgrUx1KaMosNFUjBMVIj HfojTUsqAV7n0g+svFrC0O72EzpEvk5YDIWoKN1n6lbwebMstLlBHQ8sEfVfVm2efBuP 121w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.211.71 with SMTP id na7mr8840121vec.39.1345399633803; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.157.8 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:07:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201208191758.q7JHw5xG010417@gw.catspoiler.org> References: <201208191758.q7JHw5xG010417@gw.catspoiler.org> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 21:07:13 +0300 Message-ID: From: George Kontostanos To: Don Lewis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: LSI 9240-4i 4K alignment X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 18:07:15 -0000 On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Don Lewis wrote: > On 8 Aug, George Kontostanos wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> We have a server with a LSI 9240-4i controller configured in JBOD with >> 4 SATA disks. Running FreeBSD 9.1-Beta1: >> >> Relevant dmesg: >> >> FreeBSD 9.1-BETA1 #0: Thu Jul 12 09:38:51 UTC 2012 >> root@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >> CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E31230 @ 3.20GHz (3200.09-MHz K8-class CPU) >> Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x206a7 Family = 6 Model = 2a Stepping = 7 >> Features=0xbfebfbff >> Features2=0x1fbae3ff >> AMD Features=0x28100800 >> AMD Features2=0x1 >> TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics >> real memory = 17179869184 (16384 MB) >> avail memory = 16471670784 (15708 MB) >> ... >> mfi0: port 0xe000-0xe0ff mem >> 0xf7a60000-0xf7a63fff,0xf7a00000-0xf7a3ffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on >> pci1 >> mfi0: Using MSI >> mfi0: Megaraid SAS driver Ver 4.23 >> ... >> mfi0: 321 (397672301s/0x0020/info) - Shutdown command received from host >> mfi0: 322 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware initialization started >> (PCI ID 0073/1000/9241/1000) >> mfi0: 323 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware version 2.130.354-1664 >> mfi0: 324 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware initialization started >> (PCI ID 0073/1000/9241/1000) >> mfi0: 325 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware version 2.130.354-1664 >> mfi0: 326 (boot + 5s/0x0020/info) - Package version 20.10.1-0107 >> mfi0: 327 (boot + 5s/0x0020/info) - Board Revision 03A >> mfi0: 328 (boot + 25s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 04(e0xff/s3) >> ... >> mfisyspd0 on mfi0 >> mfisyspd0: 1907729MB (3907029168 sectors) SYSPD volume >> mfisyspd0: SYSPD volume attached >> mfisyspd1 on mfi0 >> mfisyspd1: 1907729MB (3907029168 sectors) SYSPD volume >> mfisyspd1: SYSPD volume attached >> mfisyspd2 on mfi0 >> mfisyspd2: 1907729MB (3907029168 sectors) SYSPD volume >> mfisyspd2: SYSPD volume attached >> mfisyspd3 on mfi0 >> mfisyspd3: 1907729MB (3907029168 sectors) SYSPD volume >> mfisyspd3: SYSPD volume attached >> ... >> mfi0: 329 (boot + 25s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 04(e0xff/s3) Info: >> enclPd=ffff, scsiType=0, portMap=00, >> sasAddr=4433221100000000,0000000000000000 >> mfi0: 330 (boot + 25s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 05(e0xff/s1) >> mfi0: 331 (boot + 25s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 05(e0xff/s1) Info: >> enclPd=ffff, scsiType=0, portMap=02, >> sasAddr=4433221102000000,0000000000000000 >> mfi0: 332 (boot + 25s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 06(e0xff/s2) >> mfi0: 333 (boot + 25s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 06(e0xff/s2) Info: >> enclPd=ffff, scsiType=0, portMap=03, >> sasAddr=4433221101000000,0000000000000000 >> mfi0: 334 (boot + 25s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 07(e0xff/s0) >> mfi0: 335 (boot + 25s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 07(e0xff/s0) Info: >> enclPd=ffff, scsiType=0, portMap=01, >> sasAddr=4433221103000000,0000000000000000 >> mfi0: 336 (397672376s/0x0020/info) - Time established as 08/07/12 >> 16:32:56; (28 seconds since power on) >> >> The problem: >> >> When trying to create a RaidZ pool using gpart and perform a 4K >> alignment using gnop, we get the follwoing error immediately after >> exporting the pool and destroying the .nop devices: >> >> id: 8043746387654554958 >> state: FAULTED >> status: One or more devices contains corrupted data. >> action: The pool cannot be imported due to damaged devices or data. >> The pool may be active on another system, but can be imported using >> the '-f' flag. >> see: http://illumos.org/msg/ZFS-8000-5E >> config: >> >> Pool FAULTED corrupted data >> raidz1-0 ONLINE >> 13283347160590042564 UNAVAIL corrupted data >> 16981727992215676534 UNAVAIL corrupted data >> 6607570030658834339 UNAVAIL corrupted data >> 3435463242860701988 UNAVAIL corrupted data > > I'm planning on doing something similar, but I'm curious about how gnop > and GPT labels interact. I want to partition the drives for my pool > slightly on the small side so that I'm less likely to run into problems > if I have to replace a drive in the future. If I used gpart to create > and label a GPT partition on the drive, the partition will show up as > /dev/gpt/label. The gnop man page says that running gnop on dev creates > /dev/dev.nop. What happens if you gnop /dev/gpt/label? Is this what > you are doing? > >> When we use glabel for the same purpose with the combination of gnop, >> the pool imports fine. >> >> Any suggestions? > > It should be sufficient to only gnop one of the devices. You should be > able to create the pool with only one gnop device to get the ashift > value that you desire, export the pool, destroy the .nop device, and > import the pool. If it things the device is corrupted (which seems like > a bug of some sort), then ZFS should be able to resilver it. > After a few tests with many scenarios, the pool shows as ASHIFT=12 with the devices gnoped directly. However, the performance is decreasing dramatically after adding a few TB of data. We haven't used more than 30% of its capacity yet on a RaidZ1 pool. Scrub speed has been reduced to 20M max. We will park the controller for now and use the standard HBA supported by the mps driver :) -- George Kontostanos Aicom telecoms ltd http://www.aisecure.net From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 19 21:04:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A26106564A; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 21:04:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=1578f8537a=killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from mail1.multiplay.co.uk (mail1.multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020E58FC16; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 21:04:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Processed: mail1.multiplay.co.uk, Sun, 19 Aug 2012 22:04:01 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail1.multiplay.co.uk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.0 required=6.0 tests=USER_IN_WHITELIST shortcircuit=ham autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from r2d2 ([188.220.16.49]) by mail1.multiplay.co.uk (mail1.multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) (MDaemon PRO v10.0.4) with ESMTP id md50021343366.msg; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 22:03:59 +0100 X-MDRemoteIP: 188.220.16.49 X-Return-Path: prvs=1578f8537a=killing@multiplay.co.uk X-Envelope-From: killing@multiplay.co.uk Message-ID: <865E2D00967B4D8EB0782F7E4A525BD4@multiplay.co.uk> From: "Steven Hartland" To: "Don Lewis" References: <201208191737.q7JHbCr5010382@gw.catspoiler.org> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 22:04:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, gkontos.mail@gmail.com, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: LSI 9240-4i 4K alignment X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 21:04:19 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Lewis" To: Cc: ; ; Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 6:37 PM Subject: Re: LSI 9240-4i 4K alignment > On 16 Aug, Steven Hartland wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "George Kontostanos" >> >>> You are right, the chip specs say: LSISAS2108 RAID-on-Chip >>> >>> The drives are identified as mfisyspd0, mfisyspd1, etc. >> >> The following might be interesting to you:- >> http://forums.servethehome.com/showthread.php?599-LSI-RAID-Controller-and-HBA-Complete-Listing-Plus-OEM-Models >> >> Which states:- >> LSI MegaRAID SAS 9240-4i 1x4 port internal SAS vertical, >> no cache, no BBU, RAID 0, 1, 10 and 5, can be crossflashed >> to LSI9211 IT/IR >> >> This is insteresting as this is the card we're using but >> in the 8 port version under mps :) > > I wish I would have known this earlier. I just put together a ZFS > server using LSI MegaRAID SAS 9240-8i cards. The cabling probably would > have been cleaner with the 9211-8i, but I went with the 9240 because the > vendor that I purchased the cards from listed that 9240 as being > PCI-Express 2.0, but didn't say that about the 9211. I also got the > impression that the 9240 recognized JBOD drives with the off-the-shelf > firmware, whereas the 9211 did not. > > Even LSI's own site is a bit confusing. They list the 9211 in the HBA > section, but its specs don't mention JBOD, whereas the 9240 is listed in > the RAID section and its specs do list JBOD. If the only physical > difference between the cards is the connector position, it seems odd > that they don't offer products with all the combinations of firmware and > connector position. > > I haven't configured the ZFS pool yet, but I didn't have any trouble > installing FreeBSD 9.1-BETA on the GPT partitioned boot drive, which > shows up as an mfi device. I'm planning on getting the ZFS pool up and > running in the next few days. HBA's are the way to go if your using ZFS to manage the disks, you only need RAID if your using a FS which doesn't manage the disk side well such as UFS. Its often quite common for RAID controllers to actually be slower vs RAID controllers as the RAID stack can get in the way. JBOD is generally what HBA's do by default which may be the reason why LSI's site doesn't mention it. Regards Steve ================================================ This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmaster@multiplay.co.uk. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 20 02:33:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3055106567E for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 02:33:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5158A8FC0C for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 02:33:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.44]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4ED2070D for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 22:33:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.160]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 19 Aug 2012 22:33:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=6g1nAEx8IAY1inSfzaAgbn pSstA=; b=U8QfOIqk4J7bXHdFnY5Gx7A6AiEkjxFu2yeQnYOKGumGofbhtZ1AbL c/9lTL3PD8C333fDDjj6K5s88wIPFuYaRYeojSVLUFl6S4Sj3fuITCw1FWgHmvzw i3/cSEbDZ1mXMnPa4YenoAj6J2AUw58t+SKu/bhRGLJU/pOVot324= X-Sasl-enc: yDoDaSq9Wau0R3oOc0u4MvcT2oOpPABqxUCME2EH/GgP 1345429999 Received: from roadrash.ixsystems.com (unknown [216.139.7.151]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 111DE8E01B8 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 22:33:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5031A21D.3050102@tcbug.org> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:34:05 -0700 From: Josh Paetzel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120621 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <201208191737.q7JHbCr5010382@gw.catspoiler.org> <865E2D00967B4D8EB0782F7E4A525BD4@multiplay.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <865E2D00967B4D8EB0782F7E4A525BD4@multiplay.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: LSI 9240-4i 4K alignment X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 02:33:20 -0000 On 08/19/2012 14:04, Steven Hartland wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Lewis" > To: > Cc: ; ; > > Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 6:37 PM > Subject: Re: LSI 9240-4i 4K alignment > > >> On 16 Aug, Steven Hartland wrote: >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Kontostanos" >>> >>> >>>> You are right, the chip specs say: LSISAS2108 RAID-on-Chip >>>> >>>> The drives are identified as mfisyspd0, mfisyspd1, etc. >>> >>> The following might be interesting to you:- >>> http://forums.servethehome.com/showthread.php?599-LSI-RAID-Controller-and-HBA-Complete-Listing-Plus-OEM-Models >>> >>> >>> Which states:- >>> LSI MegaRAID SAS 9240-4i 1x4 port internal SAS vertical, >>> no cache, no BBU, RAID 0, 1, 10 and 5, can be crossflashed >>> to LSI9211 IT/IR >>> >>> This is insteresting as this is the card we're using but >>> in the 8 port version under mps :) >> >> I wish I would have known this earlier. I just put together a ZFS >> server using LSI MegaRAID SAS 9240-8i cards. The cabling probably would >> have been cleaner with the 9211-8i, but I went with the 9240 because the >> vendor that I purchased the cards from listed that 9240 as being >> PCI-Express 2.0, but didn't say that about the 9211. I also got the >> impression that the 9240 recognized JBOD drives with the off-the-shelf >> firmware, whereas the 9211 did not. >> >> Even LSI's own site is a bit confusing. They list the 9211 in the HBA >> section, but its specs don't mention JBOD, whereas the 9240 is listed in >> the RAID section and its specs do list JBOD. If the only physical >> difference between the cards is the connector position, it seems odd >> that they don't offer products with all the combinations of firmware and >> connector position. >> >> I haven't configured the ZFS pool yet, but I didn't have any trouble >> installing FreeBSD 9.1-BETA on the GPT partitioned boot drive, which >> shows up as an mfi device. I'm planning on getting the ZFS pool up and >> running in the next few days. > > HBA's are the way to go if your using ZFS to manage the disks, you only > need RAID if your using a FS which doesn't manage the disk side well > such as UFS. > > Its often quite common for RAID controllers to actually be slower > vs RAID controllers as the RAID stack can get in the way. > > JBOD is generally what HBA's do by default which may be the reason > why LSI's site doesn't mention it. > > Regards > Steve Just to clear up, The 9240 is a sas2008 based card with the megaraid software on top of it. In it's default config from LSI the FreeBSD mfi will recognize it in later versions of FreeBSD (The upcoming 9.1 for sure) Older versions of mfi will not recognize it. The card can be flashed with IT firmware and then becomes a 9211 HBA, but it's a bit more expensive than a 9211 is so that doesn't make sense to do in many cases. On the dmesg posted the firmware on the card is phase 11. This *must* be in lockstep with the driver version or the card may not play nicely. FreeBSD 8.3 and 9.0 have v13 of the driver, the upcoming 9.1 will have v14. Note that v14 fixes a *ton* of stability bugs, including issues where bad drives would hang the controller or prevent systems from booting. Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 20 07:19:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E74106566C for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gw.catspoiler.org (gw.catspoiler.org [75.1.14.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1608FC0A for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:19:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from FreeBSD.org (mousie.catspoiler.org [192.168.101.2]) by gw.catspoiler.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id q7K7JYqZ011355; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 00:19:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <201208200719.q7K7JYqZ011355@gw.catspoiler.org> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 00:19:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis To: josh@tcbug.org In-Reply-To: <5031A21D.3050102@tcbug.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: LSI 9240-4i 4K alignment X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:19:43 -0000 On 19 Aug, Josh Paetzel wrote: > On 08/19/2012 14:04, Steven Hartland wrote: >> HBA's are the way to go if your using ZFS to manage the disks, you only >> need RAID if your using a FS which doesn't manage the disk side well >> such as UFS. >> >> Its often quite common for RAID controllers to actually be slower >> vs RAID controllers as the RAID stack can get in the way. Any idea of what kind of performance penalty I might see by using the RAID firmware in JBOD mode vs flashing the IT firmware? > Just to clear up, > > The 9240 is a sas2008 based card with the megaraid software on top of > it. In it's default config from LSI the FreeBSD mfi will recognize it > in later versions of FreeBSD (The upcoming 9.1 for sure) Older > versions of mfi will not recognize it. > > The card can be flashed with IT firmware and then becomes a 9211 HBA, > but it's a bit more expensive than a 9211 is so that doesn't make sense > to do in many cases. The price difference was pretty minor when I looked. Confusingly enough, the 9211 HBA also has some RAID capabilities. For me, the biggest advantage of the 9211 would be that it would have allowed me to use shorter cables. > On the dmesg posted the firmware on the card is phase 11. This *must* > be in lockstep with the driver version or the card may not play nicely. > FreeBSD 8.3 and 9.0 have v13 of the driver, the upcoming 9.1 will have > v14. Note that v14 fixes a *ton* of stability bugs, including issues > where bad drives would hang the controller or prevent systems from booting. Where do those version numbers come from? The mfi driver in 9.0-RELEASE claims to be version 3.00 and the the driver in 9.1 claims to be version 4.23. This is what shows up in dmesg on my machine: mfi0: port 0xce00-0xceff mem 0xfcefc000-0xfcefffff,0xfce80000-0xf cebffff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci1 mfi0: Using MSI mfi0: Megaraid SAS driver Ver 4.23 mfi0: 333 (398082533s/0x0020/info) - Shutdown command received from host mfi0: 334 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware initialization started (PCI ID 0073 /1000/9240/1000) mfi0: 335 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware version 2.70.04-0862 mfi0: 336 (boot + 5s/0x0020/info) - Board Revision 04A mfi0: 337 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware initialization started (PCI ID 0073 /1000/9240/1000) mfi0: 338 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware version 2.70.04-0862 mfi0: 339 (boot + 5s/0x0020/info) - Board Revision 04A mfi0: 340 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware initialization started (PCI ID 0073 /1000/9240/1000) mfi0: 341 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware version 2.70.04-0862 mfi0: 342 (boot + 5s/0x0020/info) - Board Revision 04A mfi0: 343 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware initialization started (PCI ID 0073 /1000/9240/1000) mfi0: 344 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware version 2.70.04-0862 mfi0: 345 (boot + 5s/0x0020/info) - Board Revision 04A mfi0: 346 (398759025s/0x0020/info) - Time established as 08/20/12 6:23:45; (25 seconds since power on) mfi0: 347 (398759051s/0x0020/info) - Time established as 08/20/12 6:24:11; (51 seconds since power on) mfi0: 348 (398759078s/0x0020/WARN) - Patrol Read can't be started, as PDs are ei ther not ONLINE, or are in a VD with an active process, or are in an excluded VD % mfiutil show firmware mfi0 Firmware Package Version: 20.5.1-0003 mfi0 Firmware Images: Name Version Date Time Status BIOS 4.14.00 active PCLI 03.02-001:#%00008 Feb 09 2010 13:09:06 active BCON 4.0-22-e_10-Rel Mar 11 2010 12:38:08 active NVDT 3.04.03-0002 Apr 05 2010 18:50:27 active APP 2.70.04-0862 May 05 2010 18:12:07 active BTBL 2.01.00.00-0019 May 14 2009 15:52:08 active The only firmware file on LSI's web site for the 9240-8i is version 20.10.1-107, which appears to be newer than what is on the card if the 20.5.1-0003 is the version number that I should be looking at. Is the BIOS Version 4.14 the v14 version that you mention above? If the FreeBSD mfi driver expects a certain firmware version, shouldn't it complain if it doesn't find it? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 20 14:24:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9AF1065670; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C158FC18; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935A720B4B; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 10:24:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 20 Aug 2012 10:24:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=M4moK71TQD1dVEccCcp4KJ 3WNbE=; b=JEaUn11+M11j2P8a+AYbnB8f3HyLQJzF6Xmund0Gw64y7YzbUhL3b1 7qjaUYlICwz5w5DXonFv7Nrw8b+Xe+VgeVqfEGAWHqtlxzXqAo/6KRV4Qvgt/2/l PxDws5qeyCa1tnLsaas53qKxVe+lKR0PB/HyPtXrSHtjWv0gbqd8s= X-Sasl-enc: R66QiOJNXpVGUWuecxhenuzvDvdi62w5HUETu94tPsGy 1345472670 Received: from roadrash.ixsystems.com (unknown [216.139.7.151]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id F01E64827DA; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 10:24:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <503248C9.8000509@tcbug.org> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:25:13 -0700 From: Josh Paetzel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120621 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Don Lewis References: <201208200719.q7K7JYqZ011355@gw.catspoiler.org> In-Reply-To: <201208200719.q7K7JYqZ011355@gw.catspoiler.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: LSI 9240-4i 4K alignment X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:24:31 -0000 On 08/20/2012 00:19, Don Lewis wrote: > On 19 Aug, Josh Paetzel wrote: >> On 08/19/2012 14:04, Steven Hartland wrote: > >>> HBA's are the way to go if your using ZFS to manage the disks, you only >>> need RAID if your using a FS which doesn't manage the disk side well >>> such as UFS. >>> >>> Its often quite common for RAID controllers to actually be slower >>> vs RAID controllers as the RAID stack can get in the way. > > Any idea of what kind of performance penalty I might see by using the > RAID firmware in JBOD mode vs flashing the IT firmware? > I don't have any current numbers, on ZFS v14 14 RAID controllers were actually a bit faster, but that's all changed dramatically. On our high end stuff we can get HBAs to go over 25% faster than high end RAID controllers, like the 9260/9280, but we don't test with RAID controllers anymore at all, so I don't have up to the minute info. ZFS does block checksums, and so do LSI mfi cards, even when in "JBOD" mode, you also can't bypass the cache on the card without a huge performance hit, so you end up with 256MB or whatever in between your disks and the OS. In addition because the 9240 is based on the 2008 which lacks hardware assist for RAID5/6 those two modes are done in software, so you take another hit there. Advantages: ZFS doesn't work with hot spares as of this moment on FreeBSD, but LSI controllers do, so if your strategy involves hot spares the RAID card is the better choice. LSI controllers can be set to auto-replace, ZFS can't. Enclosure management works better on RAID controllers than through FreeBSD in many cases. >> Just to clear up, >> >> The 9240 is a sas2008 based card with the megaraid software on top of >> it. In it's default config from LSI the FreeBSD mfi will recognize it >> in later versions of FreeBSD (The upcoming 9.1 for sure) Older >> versions of mfi will not recognize it. >> >> The card can be flashed with IT firmware and then becomes a 9211 HBA, >> but it's a bit more expensive than a 9211 is so that doesn't make sense >> to do in many cases. > > The price difference was pretty minor when I looked. Confusingly > enough, the 9211 HBA also has some RAID capabilities. > > For me, the biggest advantage of the 9211 would be that it would have > allowed me to use shorter cables. > >> On the dmesg posted the firmware on the card is phase 11. This *must* >> be in lockstep with the driver version or the card may not play nicely. >> FreeBSD 8.3 and 9.0 have v13 of the driver, the upcoming 9.1 will have >> v14. Note that v14 fixes a *ton* of stability bugs, including issues >> where bad drives would hang the controller or prevent systems from booting. > > Where do those version numbers come from? The mfi driver in 9.0-RELEASE > claims to be version 3.00 and the the driver in 9.1 claims to be version > 4.23. > I was talking about mps, not mfi. The dmesg I was responding to showed an mps. > This is what shows up in dmesg on my machine: > > mfi0: port 0xce00-0xceff mem 0xfcefc000-0xfcefffff,0xfce80000-0xf > cebffff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci1 > mfi0: Using MSI > mfi0: Megaraid SAS driver Ver 4.23 > mfi0: 333 (398082533s/0x0020/info) - Shutdown command received from host > mfi0: 334 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware initialization started (PCI ID 0073 > /1000/9240/1000) > mfi0: 335 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware version 2.70.04-0862 > mfi0: 336 (boot + 5s/0x0020/info) - Board Revision 04A > mfi0: 337 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware initialization started (PCI ID 0073 > /1000/9240/1000) > mfi0: 338 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware version 2.70.04-0862 > mfi0: 339 (boot + 5s/0x0020/info) - Board Revision 04A > mfi0: 340 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware initialization started (PCI ID 0073 > /1000/9240/1000) > mfi0: 341 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware version 2.70.04-0862 > mfi0: 342 (boot + 5s/0x0020/info) - Board Revision 04A > mfi0: 343 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware initialization started (PCI ID 0073 > /1000/9240/1000) > mfi0: 344 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware version 2.70.04-0862 > mfi0: 345 (boot + 5s/0x0020/info) - Board Revision 04A > mfi0: 346 (398759025s/0x0020/info) - Time established as 08/20/12 6:23:45; (25 > seconds since power on) > mfi0: 347 (398759051s/0x0020/info) - Time established as 08/20/12 6:24:11; (51 > seconds since power on) > mfi0: 348 (398759078s/0x0020/WARN) - Patrol Read can't be started, as PDs are ei > ther not ONLINE, or are in a VD with an active process, or are in an excluded VD > > > % mfiutil show firmware > mfi0 Firmware Package Version: 20.5.1-0003 > mfi0 Firmware Images: > Name Version Date Time Status > BIOS 4.14.00 active > PCLI 03.02-001:#%00008 Feb 09 2010 13:09:06 active > BCON 4.0-22-e_10-Rel Mar 11 2010 12:38:08 active > NVDT 3.04.03-0002 Apr 05 2010 18:50:27 active > APP 2.70.04-0862 May 05 2010 18:12:07 active > BTBL 2.01.00.00-0019 May 14 2009 15:52:08 active > > > The only firmware file on LSI's web site for the 9240-8i is version > 20.10.1-107, which appears to be newer than what is on the card if the > 20.5.1-0003 is the version number that I should be looking at. Is the > BIOS Version 4.14 the v14 version that you mention above? > > If the FreeBSD mfi driver expects a certain firmware version, shouldn't > it complain if it doesn't find it? > I'm not sure if mfi has the same hard requirements for firmware that mps has, but if it requires a certain firmware version it would be reasonable to complain if it wasn't there, or auto flash the firmware ala chelsio 10Gbe NICS. Thanks, Josh From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 20 14:56:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D8A106564A for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:56:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norbert.aschendorff@yahoo.de) Received: from nm18-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm18-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B9208FC0A for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm18.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Aug 2012 14:56:09 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.57] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Aug 2012 14:56:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp208.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Aug 2012 14:56:09 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.de; s=s1024; t=1345474569; bh=DA9u4VZ2gqtZYmf/g0JTcJ5UfAcNp8h1upaDksxU2wg=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZzKzSVNwE3j9RWW1mJ1q0S+qpwEfFEhzBBNq8hdNK9QfnLoBHekmNJ2ZZmAr0oN+8rMCL1WJFiKLKpz5ZM508RuZfKkD+34vKPhvQZzhq8j8Kwqk4ADnyYmi/ODlrU6FdXTjE/oF467q7ZH4ec/pfqnocO90sqU/TdMrcUbs+6Y= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 775730.42107.bm@smtp208.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: PXdvEbQVM1kOI5r_aTxI51nYYLNPHxEWxlxRCRRSdHZ.Bee 7vEoB3AHNObReO7n.Ggo2Ql7lFD5pLRmimhUVdwNefTUQuiGzjAFdxCfWkId rDvyhsqV9m2kCAkXr.JHsX_0GdeD8m9lHL.lKttonP3J6NQgc4M6AaVoULyq A0ZhXxrLVX343Bdh8SKy7boc7sfNgzCuOVxNoHvn3ykBtEep5IABETDBanru BOCfFIuAz5j35ntfNHP2tO1KkGP25tF9bxeFjXkEDNyKyX841T.Z_zVrhYFh JBBpuqQEjYgI9AOpxCQ8sippenPoHs8Y4iqjwiJHDIs9TZeRnl3M5eL2GgWK mbMFFfHm3soQJcz_FcHoWPoAF69izd6Wzc_wgKbCjKmgEKoKSVVNmQxyGJea ga4M2kLKVHkfPJMGdMBHv X-Yahoo-SMTP: d20YFqmswBAWc4wd23BcX3DKFU.SSFWadKORXj_BQPQ- Received: from vostro-linux.goebo.site (norbert.aschendorff@85.216.84.153 with plain) by smtp208.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 2012 07:56:09 -0700 PDT Message-ID: <50325008.200@yahoo.de> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 16:56:08 +0200 From: Norbert Aschendorff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120418 Icedove/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problem with Linux >= 3.3 as NFSv4 server X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:56:11 -0000 Hi all, I recently noticed a problem in my network. I use some desktop machines there, two with Linux kernel (Debian and Fedora, both using Kernel 3.5) and a FreeBSD 9.0 (p4) machine. Some days ago, I updated the Debian machine from Kernel 3.2 to Kernel 3.5 (from the experimental branch, 3.5-trunk-amd64; I hope you aren't bothered by the Linux-specific parts). Running 3.2, the FreeBSD machine was able to mount an NFSv4 share on the Debian/k3.2 system properly, with UIDs etc (using nfsuserd on FreeBSD, rpc.idmapd on GNU/Linux). Since I updated to Kernel 3.5, the FreeBSD machine only shows 32767 as UID/GID for all files. `chown` works (even though without any effect, but without error, so nfsuserd works). This behavior occurred also when using Linux Kernel 3.3 or 3.4 on the Debian (server) machine. With the Fedora 17 machine (also Kernel 3.5, and the same users in /etc/passwd, of course), the same operation works without this errors, showing the UIDs and GIDs I want it to. 1. Am I right on this list, or should I ask first on a Linux-oriented list/forum? 2. Has anyone else noticed this or similar behaviour? 3. Any ideas about fixes, workarounds, known bugs? -- norbert From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 20 19:51:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24D7106564A for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:51:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@hurricane-ridge.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4598FC0A for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:51:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbmv11 with SMTP id v11so7527186vbm.13 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 12:51:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=kpkv84XyDjcBKRQx96hCSUZBThTeR4YeZ2zWo75XuJ4=; b=CHzOZCmnC+GEvxIYVRAC5vfJGM9XNAclMxAW2Uw1rk1m/LD5OJnq0ZPF4N9q/WmjWp jmQTMJxLNyTcwDzVV1drwZCzPUoWtuBvhrb73Cp4z2/NQLimqSfllXe5P6M5RpVB1Zi7 R2bB9TQA+ipjrdKfcL6PMWRYhHHX/TgdDVKv0KAi4a1M7d1nZfqL/SZfALITV7TxxZKS ex2StGJjOwuEi1SI9kAkUNQ+VD3W5384rfRD6eppFMAzATlokpaG9UEgKlOWIhyq7Y7s K4UyejWVH98uF4pi8JPJXmjU9chV6leo/Dh648aCM9RXjiHDA/YtiVDGA5x2X99WLG37 e1ZQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.96.33 with SMTP id dp1mr1218553vdb.67.1345492295364; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 12:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.94.103 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 12:51:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [146.129.249.238] In-Reply-To: <5031A21D.3050102@tcbug.org> References: <201208191737.q7JHbCr5010382@gw.catspoiler.org> <865E2D00967B4D8EB0782F7E4A525BD4@multiplay.co.uk> <5031A21D.3050102@tcbug.org> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 12:51:35 -0700 Message-ID: From: Andrew Leonard To: Josh Paetzel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnrm3tu7JucUEg8+szYdbvoOwEj6NKUHwgiAqmByJmfxvQrUDk7mtNEkhqekkiompzdfedo Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LSI 9240-4i 4K alignment X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:51:37 -0000 On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Josh Paetzel wrote: > On the dmesg posted the firmware on the card is phase 11. This *must* > be in lockstep with the driver version or the card may not play nicely. > FreeBSD 8.3 and 9.0 have v13 of the driver, the upcoming 9.1 will have > v14. Note that v14 fixes a *ton* of stability bugs, including issues > where bad drives would hang the controller or prevent systems from booting. Oof, good to know. I happen to have a server with v9 9211 firmware and v13 mps drivers that's having stability problems under load; it will be interesting to see if updating the firmware solves the problem. Is there someplace I should have been checking to know that this was a requirement? Thanks, Andy From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 21 00:04:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848F4106566C for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 00:04:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmacklem@uoguelph.ca) Received: from esa-jnhn.mail.uoguelph.ca (esa-jnhn.mail.uoguelph.ca [131.104.91.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D69D8FC0A for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 00:04:48 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap8EAK/PMlCDaFvO/2dsb2JhbABFhgG1YYIgAQEBBAEBASArIAsbGAICDRkCKQEJJgYIBwQBHASHbAumRpMdgSGKBIVmgRIDkyWCK4EUjn6CfYFF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,800,1336363200"; d="scan'208";a="176042852" Received: from erie.cs.uoguelph.ca (HELO zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca) ([131.104.91.206]) by esa-jnhn-pri.mail.uoguelph.ca with ESMTP; 20 Aug 2012 20:04:49 -0400 Received: from zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D7DB4036; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:04:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:04:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Macklem To: Norbert Aschendorff Message-ID: <672849509.877573.1345507488192.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca> In-Reply-To: <50325008.200@yahoo.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [172.17.91.202] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.10_GA_2692 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.10_GA_2692) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with Linux >= 3.3 as NFSv4 server X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 00:04:49 -0000 Norbert Aschendorff wrote: > Hi all, > I recently noticed a problem in my network. I use some desktop > machines > there, two with Linux kernel (Debian and Fedora, both using Kernel > 3.5) > and a FreeBSD 9.0 (p4) machine. > Some days ago, I updated the Debian machine from Kernel 3.2 to Kernel > 3.5 (from the experimental branch, 3.5-trunk-amd64; I hope you aren't > bothered by the Linux-specific parts). > Running 3.2, the FreeBSD machine was able to mount an NFSv4 share on > the > Debian/k3.2 system properly, with UIDs etc (using nfsuserd on FreeBSD, > rpc.idmapd on GNU/Linux). Since I updated to Kernel 3.5, the FreeBSD > machine only shows 32767 as UID/GID for all files. `chown` works (even > though without any effect, but without error, so nfsuserd works). > This behavior occurred also when using Linux Kernel 3.3 or 3.4 on the > Debian (server) machine. With the Fedora 17 machine (also Kernel 3.5, > and the same users in /etc/passwd, of course), the same operation > works > without this errors, showing the UIDs and GIDs I want it to. > > 1. Am I right on this list, or should I ask first on a Linux-oriented > list/forum? > 2. Has anyone else noticed this or similar behaviour? > 3. Any ideas about fixes, workarounds, known bugs? > Sounds like rpc.imapd isn't working correctly for that Debian system. To check what's going on, capture some traffic (like an "ls -l" for a directory) and then look at it in wireshark and see what is going on the wire. The owner and owner_group names in the attributes should look like @. Usually the problem is that the domain name isn't set correctly. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:44:12 -0000 Hi, I run 8.3 AMD64 in a VM (on esx 5u1). Install went flawless, but on reboot, it takes a very long time to get to the login-prompt and the console displays all these t_delta 15.fe49d775fc69de00 too short t_delta 16.03698e84842065e0 too long t_delta 15.fe47fbbbc968bdc0 too short t_delta 15.fe49aaef471687c0 too short t_delta 16.0367d4c554c3ec80 too long t_delta 15.fe49788cbd45b3a0 too short t_delta 15.fe4c3ea023e27ee0 too short t_delta 16.0366602823fd0d40 too long t_delta 15.fe474bf8e2b3fd80 too short t_delta 15.fe496f2d02e350a0 too short t_delta 16.0369f9256c3f8c00 too long t_delta 15.fe484a3d8260bae0 too short t_delta 15.fe4902342c2b91c0 too short t_delta 16.036760c4b2426360 too long errors all the time. What's the reason for these? What does this mean for my server? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 21 17:50:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13051106564A for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:50:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin.dieringer@gmx.de) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F5CC8FC08 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:50:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 21 Aug 2012 17:50:28 -0000 Received: from pD9E3043E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO thinkpad.nowhere.local) [217.227.4.62] by mail.gmx.net (mp030) with SMTP; 21 Aug 2012 19:50:28 +0200 X-Authenticated: #21464393 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18Xi/Awk7AXNwd0TX0uZXpHtmdXN9tk51J+7A3ZoJ 5lTnpDjsuyQ6x/ Received: by thinkpad.nowhere.local (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6B72E6575; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:50:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thinkpad.nowhere.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FCD36574; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:50:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:50:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Martin Dieringer To: John Baldwin In-Reply-To: <201207311632.30938.jhb@freebsd.org> Message-ID: References: <5007CFE6.6030808@intersonic.se> <500853DA.8050502@intersonic.se> <201207311632.30938.jhb@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: jb , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thinkpad X61s cannot boot 9.1-BETA1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Dieringer List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:50:30 -0000 On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, John Baldwin wrote: > On Friday, July 20, 2012 10:11:33 am jb wrote: >>>>> Did anyone else experience this? With 9.1-BETA1 the boot process >>>>> freezes, among the last lines with verbose boot are >>>>> >>>>> acpi_acad0: On Line >>>>> acpi_acad0: acline initialization done, tried 1 times >>>>> >>>>> after this, dead. >>>>> ... >> set debug.acpi.disabled="hostres" >> boot >> >> Or, put the following line into /boot/loader.conf: >> >> debug.acpi.disabled="hostres" >> ..." >> >> Anyway, regardless of this attempt, file a PR# for 9.1-BETA1. > > Please try this and let me know if it works. The bugs that I knew of related to > "hostres" should be fixed in 9.1, so if there are still problems I'd like to > know about it. this seems to work on a T410, at least it can boot the latest USB-image now. T61 has the same problem, btw. m. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 21 19:29:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4021065691 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:29:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (bigknife-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:75::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 435B88FC1C for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:29:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (unknown [209.249.190.124]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 99A9DB91E; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:29:40 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Martin Dieringer Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:09:35 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-CBSD-20110714-p17; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: <5007CFE6.6030808@intersonic.se> <201207311632.30938.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201208211509.35488.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:29:40 -0400 (EDT) Cc: jb , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thinkpad X61s cannot boot 9.1-BETA1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:29:41 -0000 On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 1:50:27 pm Martin Dieringer wrote: > On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, John Baldwin wrote: > > > On Friday, July 20, 2012 10:11:33 am jb wrote: > > >>>>> Did anyone else experience this? With 9.1-BETA1 the boot process > >>>>> freezes, among the last lines with verbose boot are > >>>>> > >>>>> acpi_acad0: On Line > >>>>> acpi_acad0: acline initialization done, tried 1 times > >>>>> > >>>>> after this, dead. > >>>>> ... > > >> set debug.acpi.disabled="hostres" > >> boot > >> > >> Or, put the following line into /boot/loader.conf: > >> > >> debug.acpi.disabled="hostres" > >> ..." > >> > >> Anyway, regardless of this attempt, file a PR# for 9.1-BETA1. > > > > Please try this and let me know if it works. The bugs that I knew of related to > > "hostres" should be fixed in 9.1, so if there are still problems I'd like to > > know about it. > > > this seems to work on a T410, at least it can boot the latest USB-image now. > T61 has the same problem, btw. So the "hostres" hint fixes your T410 on 9.1 that was broken without it? -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 21 19:52:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C09106566B for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:52:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A95D88FC17 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:52:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBED51.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.237.81]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q7LJqN0c063513; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:52:23 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q7LJqBVO024617; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:52:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q7LJpxc8037442; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:52:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201208211952.q7LJpxc8037442@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Rainer Duffner From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:44:03 +0200." <20120821174403.0452f4bf@suse2.ip-tech.ch> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:51:59 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: t_delta too long / too short messages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:52:26 -0000 > t_delta 15.fe49d775fc69de00 too short > t_delta 16.03698e84842065e0 too long Hi Rainer, I saw these on one of my old systems, I think it was a 7.4-rel laptop, /* Dell Latitude XPi P133ST * http://berkli.com/~jhs/hardware/laptops/dell_latitude_xpi_p133st * CPU: Pentium/P54C (133.64-MHz 586-class CPU) * Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping = 12 * Features=0x1bf * real memory = 58720256 (56 MB) * avail memory = 43507712 (41 MB) */ It didnt seem to stop the system running OK. Maybe it's your VM running slow, ie a small % time slice, or too big time slices between VMs ? (PS sorry, I can't boot my system to look again, dead disk on it). Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from Yahoo & Hotmail to be dumped @Berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 21 21:26:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C01106566B; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:26:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from auryn@zirakzigil.org) Received: from mx1.giulioferro.ch (mx1.giulioferro.ch [217.150.252.208]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37E08FC0A; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:26:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailscan.giulioferro.ch (unknown [192.168.115.2]) by mx1.giulioferro.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E677275F; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:18:18 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com Received: from mx1.giulioferro.ch ([192.168.114.4]) by mailscan.giulioferro.ch (mailscan.giulioferro.ch [192.168.115.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hJaUIQEpCN1N; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:18:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.zirakzigil.org (net-93-70-48-129.cust.dsl.vodafone.it [93.70.48.129]) by mx1.giulioferro.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9540772755; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:18:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ext.zirakzigil.org (unknown [192.168.1.2]) by mail.zirakzigil.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44BC19BA6C; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:14:05 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zirakzigil.org Received: from mail.zirakzigil.org ([192.168.1.2]) by ext.zirakzigil.org (ext.zirakzigil.org [192.168.1.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KrGAokyX3FBc; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:14:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.231.11] (ext [192.168.1.2]) (Authenticated sender: auryn@zirakzigil.org) by mail.zirakzigil.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 06B5419BA66; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:14:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5033FB17.7020600@zirakzigil.org> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:18:15 +0200 From: Giulio Ferro User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Problem with link aggregation + sshd X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:26:02 -0000 Scenario : freebsd 9 stable (yesterday) amd64 on HP server with 4 nic (igb) 1 nic is connected standalone to the management switch, the 3 other nics are connected to a switch configured for aggregation. If I configure the first nic (igb0) there is no problem, I can operate as I normally do and sshd functions normally. The problems start when I configure the 3 other nics for aggregation: in /etc/rc.conf ... ifconfig_igb1="up" ifconfig_igb2="up" ifconfig_igb3="up" cloned_interfaces=lagg0 ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto lacp laggport igb1 laggport igb2 laggport igb3 192.168.12.7/24" ... I restart the server and the aggregation seems to work correctly, in fact ifconfig returns the correct lagg0 interface with the aggregated links, the correct protocol (lacp) and the correct ip address and the status is active. I can ping other IPs on the aggregated link. Also the other (standalone) link seems to work correctly. I can ping that address from other machines, and I can ping other IPs from that server. DNS lookups work ok too I can also use telnet to connect to pop3 servers so there seems to be no problem on the network stack. But if I try to connect to the sshd service on that server, it hangs indefinitely. On the server I find two sshd processes: /usr/sbin/sshd /usr/sbin/sshd -R There is no message in the logs. If I try to kill sshd (/etc/rc.d/sshd stop) I can't. it just stays there forever waiting for the pid to die (it never does) Even ssh client doesn't seem to work. In fact, if I try to connect to another server, the ssh client may start to work correctly, then soon or later it just hangs there forever, and I can't kill it with ctrl-c. No firewall is configured, there is nothing else working on this server. Thanks for any suggestions... From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 22 05:44:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726D41065675; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 05:44:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aoyama@peach.ne.jp) Received: from moon.peach.ne.jp (moon.peach.ne.jp [203.141.148.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97FF48FC14; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 05:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from moon.peach.ne.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moon.peach.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930EF39D4E; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:44:04 +0900 (JST) Received: from artemis (unknown [172.18.0.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by moon.peach.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7FDCF39D4A; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:44:04 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: From: "Daisuke Aoyama" To: Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:43:50 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-2022-jp"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: iSCSI boot driver 0.2.5 (isboot.ko) has been released. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 05:44:13 -0000 You can download the source file from: http://www.peach.ne.jp/archives/isboot/isboot-0.2.5.tar.gz Also, you can download a demo version of 9.1-BETA1. http://www.peach.ne.jp/archives/isboot/demo/FreeBSD-9.1-BETA1-amd64-memstick-isboot-0.2.5.img This demo version is added isboot.txz which includes isboot.ko and loader.conf and a syscons patched kernel for DN2800MT. You can use it as istgt's LUN extent like this: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [LogicalUnit2800] TargetName "iqn.2007-09.jp.ne.peach:aria:dn2800mt-boot" Mapping PortalGroup4 InitiatorGroup2800 UnitType Disk QueueDepth 32 LUN0 Storage /tank/iscsi/istgt-DN2800MT.vdi Auto LUN1 Storage /tank/iscsi/FreeBSD-9.1-BETA1-amd64-memstick-isboot-0.2.5.img Auto ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Then, boot FreeBSD installer from LUN1 and install FreeBSD by normal way to LUN0. After installation, you have an iSCSI based diskless machine. I have tested it with iPXE(USB boot) and Intel Desktop Board DN2800MT without using SATA ports. For example, booting LUN1 by iPXE(just use :::1:): sanboot iscsi:172.18.0.26:::1:iqn.2007-09.jp.ne.peach:aria:dn2800mt-boot For more info of Japanese is here: http://shell.peach.ne.jp/aoyama/archives/2097 http://shell.peach.ne.jp/aoyama/archives/2100 Have fun! Daisuke Aoyama From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 22 09:33:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42FC8106564A; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:33:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54D78FC18; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:33:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 051556A6006; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:33:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7M9XHBi040109; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:33:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: (from lars@localhost) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q7M9XHeU039861; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:33:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lars) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:33:17 +0200 From: Lars Engels To: Martin Dieringer Message-ID: <20120822093317.GW32916@e-new.0x20.net> References: <5007CFE6.6030808@intersonic.se> <500853DA.8050502@intersonic.se> <201207311632.30938.jhb@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="z7PwrGSuFWcNaapT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.3 X-Operation-System: FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, jb , John Baldwin Subject: Re: Thinkpad X61s cannot boot 9.1-BETA1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:33:19 -0000 --z7PwrGSuFWcNaapT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 07:50:27PM +0200, Martin Dieringer wrote: > On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, John Baldwin wrote: >=20 > > On Friday, July 20, 2012 10:11:33 am jb wrote: >=20 > >>>>> Did anyone else experience this? With 9.1-BETA1 the boot process > >>>>> freezes, among the last lines with verbose boot are > >>>>> > >>>>> acpi_acad0: On Line > >>>>> acpi_acad0: acline initialization done, tried 1 times > >>>>> > >>>>> after this, dead. > >>>>> ... >=20 > >> set debug.acpi.disabled=3D"hostres" > >> boot > >> > >> Or, put the following line into /boot/loader.conf: > >> > >> debug.acpi.disabled=3D"hostres" > >> ..." > >> > >> Anyway, regardless of this attempt, file a PR# for 9.1-BETA1. > > > > Please try this and let me know if it works. The bugs that I knew of r= elated to > > "hostres" should be fixed in 9.1, so if there are still problems I'd li= ke to > > know about it. >=20 >=20 > this seems to work on a T410, at least it can boot the latest USB-image n= ow. > T61 has the same problem, btw. I have a T61 running 9.1-BETA1 (with PC-BSD). In most cases it is booting fine, but from time to time it hangs at boot time but the last lines are uhub0: ... to uhub4 Is that the same or a different issue? --z7PwrGSuFWcNaapT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlA0p10ACgkQKc512sD3afhA/wCfRzBK60u7CIV4Qzkol+r1NOd/ 64MAn14hEcmoHL4y6S1SDNFwGxfUL1iU =3jBR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --z7PwrGSuFWcNaapT-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 22 09:44:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120C0106564A for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:44:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norbert.aschendorff@yahoo.de) Received: from nm4-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm4-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9AEFE8FC08 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:44:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 09:44:14 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.62] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 09:44:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp213.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 09:44:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.de; s=s1024; t=1345628654; bh=+vOhcjFD2YQX9XnqHbbN5TbmcgHsSYFsGWgqcE2BSdg=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=BRQrAGxHB612Ay30i9St7jLVqdqQJvewSD1iNYJBFXXMoyjdvYGrvR5/t+P88FpxZedSOijoG0qdQ8gAMvZstIhXCLvmDOHMekvKW869btb8qNB7zNv6367+pgiqr97eMs9r6GAvhkcptBDQQ4oTFQvA3C08pcmObwu7yI7rZBc= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 652668.43059.bm@smtp213.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: lQ2yEMEVM1nZbRfQOKUABRNj0.X5IoH6N3G_vXhTpFSePuG dSYoJe8iR0hpJcBF0b2KdMt1CQQoHZ_OqXNjqo7dYLZIt78NzZecABp_6Laq _q0qp9mwb.UxSbFVa1wyFAF08mqBwXJ770CsKeEUIlzXbss5YHSpILFMVTs2 vtTsmqVLQBNMpEqmcU6Xv6TmOmv.w__XfLcqMm9m8pFMXr_ARD74XE3Bm4wk b7ayWVztglNoppDCFLHRK.WukdY1wFRkqHLCCqfB7xntLufWFUXrV9aZXCb3 EJrO3hIijeGqsbFnNugGhI_iYIa4JopqATrv9h2ZZD4WJ.wno7nWELTjUODZ jqvhefQrVRDiuOE4bq0aF.pySIaxCfR7qILDmAdf6j2YlQwmmTL0xH.LWsYi 6XRksm9zRCGvVN80ztKuC X-Yahoo-SMTP: d20YFqmswBAWc4wd23BcX3DKFU.SSFWadKORXj_BQPQ- Received: from vostro-linux.goebo.site (norbert.aschendorff@85.216.84.153 with plain) by smtp213.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2012 02:44:14 -0700 PDT Message-ID: <5034A9EC.4050504@yahoo.de> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:44:12 +0200 From: Norbert Aschendorff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120418 Icedove/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <672849509.877573.1345507488192.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca> In-Reply-To: <672849509.877573.1345507488192.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Problem with Linux >= 3.3 as NFSv4 server X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:44:16 -0000 I already had a problem with this, but this is fixed: 1. The hostnames are correct 2. in the debian /etc/idmapd.conf, the right domain name is specified 3. The names are transmitted correctly -- tested with Wireshark. If the problem was wrong domain names, I had found it because I always take a look at the traffic if I have a problem with network stuff. And (as mentioned), I already had the name problem and therefore the knowledge how to detect and fix it. Nevertheless, thank you for your answer. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 22 12:03:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E611065673 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:03:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmacklem@uoguelph.ca) Received: from esa-annu.mail.uoguelph.ca (esa-annu.mail.uoguelph.ca [131.104.91.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C318FC30 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:03:19 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap8EAAnKNFCDaFvO/2dsb2JhbABFhgG1RoIgAQEBAwEBAQEgKyALBRYYAgINGQIpAQkmBggHBAEcBIdmBgumN5M4gSGKAYVwgRIDkyeCK4EUjn+CfYFF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,809,1336363200"; d="scan'208";a="178606270" Received: from erie.cs.uoguelph.ca (HELO zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca) ([131.104.91.206]) by esa-annu-pri.mail.uoguelph.ca with ESMTP; 22 Aug 2012 08:03:02 -0400 Received: from zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C6FB4019; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:03:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:03:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Macklem To: Norbert Aschendorff Message-ID: <291265921.942752.1345636981593.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca> In-Reply-To: <5034A9EC.4050504@yahoo.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [172.17.91.202] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.10_GA_2692 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.10_GA_2692) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with Linux >= 3.3 as NFSv4 server X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:03:20 -0000 Norbert Aschendorff wrote: > I already had a problem with this, but this is fixed: 1. The hostnames > are correct 2. in the debian /etc/idmapd.conf, the right domain name > is > specified 3. The names are transmitted correctly -- tested with > Wireshark. If the problem was wrong domain names, I had found it > because > I always take a look at the traffic if I have a problem with network > stuff. And (as mentioned), I already had the name problem and > therefore > the knowledge how to detect and fix it. > Ok, so you are saying that a reply from a Linux NFSv4 server (post 3.3) for "ls -l" has correct owner and owner_group names on the wire, but the FreeBSD client is reporting 32767 to userland? If the above is the case, then you could email me a packet capture and I'll take a look at it. (All I can think of is that the attribute reply isn't parsing correctly for some reason.) rick > Nevertheless, thank you for your answer. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 22 12:47:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BEF1065729; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:47:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thomas@gibfest.dk) Received: from mail.tyknet.dk (mail.tyknet.dk [IPv6:2a01:4f8:141:52a3:186::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E601C8FC1B; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:47:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2a01:3a0:a:90:fcfc:ad96:a880:9715] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3a0:a:90:fcfc:ad96:a880:9715]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.tyknet.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E9E01C9819; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:47:10 +0200 (CEST) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 mail.tyknet.dk E9E01C9819 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=gibfest.dk; s=default; t=1345639631; bh=J7EX9nEY3QN8V8aki6dOI/XdKQFBhTBtuFs3RC3y8Y4=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=ujADOotupQ4Bt0o1fpSubv2VNOsoFT5JG3adFxsNJLZeZAcXdh7VVHTdhPbCstBKF ctNKF1wt7AVw0Mp37vLpnyn1VH0HuFU9f1/yu0YORpSPQ6cE4yTKVTeOppqB65xZRz hJBQPmekBPFUbPnmC5MtnSk7MLwcHOmkja27kFsw= Message-ID: <5034D4CD.4030301@gibfest.dk> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:47:09 +0200 From: Thomas Steen Rasmussen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Engels References: <5007CFE6.6030808@intersonic.se> <500853DA.8050502@intersonic.se> <201207311632.30938.jhb@freebsd.org> <20120822093317.GW32916@e-new.0x20.net> In-Reply-To: <20120822093317.GW32916@e-new.0x20.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jb , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, John Baldwin , Martin Dieringer Subject: Re: Thinkpad X61s cannot boot 9.1-BETA1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:47:19 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 22-08-2012 11:33, Lars Engels wrote: > > I have a T61 running 9.1-BETA1 (with PC-BSD). In most cases it is > booting fine, but from time to time it hangs at boot time but the last > lines are uhub0: ... to uhub4 > Is that the same or a different issue? Hello, I have that exact issue on an X301 after upgrading from 9.0 to 9-STABLE a little while ago. It feels like it happens mostly when rebooting from Windows to FreeBSD (dualboot machine), but I've seen it from a cold boot as well. I've never seen it twice in a row - turning the machine off and on again (by holding the power button down) and it boots normally the next time. I am willing to test patches or enable extra debugging, or help out any other way I can :) Best regards, Thomas Steen Rasmussen -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlA01MwACgkQGjEBQafC9MDScwCfWqweGF66I2hg7angjNxOlBzn BFQAnRvrnhAntaeRSdlOSMbpt67Imddc =SJx0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 22 12:56:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3E5106566B for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norbert.aschendorff@yahoo.de) Received: from nm37-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm37-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.216.252]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 736F18FC22 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:56:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.137.12.190] by nm37.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 12:54:27 -0000 Received: from [208.71.42.209] by tm11.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 12:54:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp220.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 12:54:27 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.de; s=s1024; t=1345640067; bh=6Hgf2R2A+5+2pMd9fojO/U/Zf5GN/5K9Mes3QRYkh3Q=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=WbkTXPrAnVmMXNcgVqyGLsBcU8IRJNn15o0SfBWjo6PmsaIYDKZvoaa3WxOMU3FAKCOTf4MQ0sEPAjSsJjim/0itL/6gRdkQa5myGptw4fidA4ZZWj4y7kuKC0EUoFH2K+SCCFqtxpQv2CJCzu7CdfA/2sECXM0OzZlqATqoOGA= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 109981.31408.bm@smtp220.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: ew5js.IVM1nWRlLtXNoTjzqqhqiqiRZ9Mmahi3kqbYSqnp. x_DrI_.33R9I9tu3.PiTeNUpxQ5qKI6GiL8yFJ0mGV28rUWMrteJZnyj4KKz 2ajvmdmUbA4S44sDlXZR.Guwg1tj83Yl7d0.YmgQN1o8_h96Jebw.D5kU7sw GWitFtBxs9eDzANDh3iYGgrggBu_BxJyuSx7wVbIk.kXxPT142HBXZ_MJ4ne JNGG_8AjmZDHHr6JwpeKCeZdUV..s1yHK9p_kpU9.fadmep3WZXqiPUJuJ1U Cpzx9lBovSrx7nxiNtAjjyMX3_H2kK7tIQi7AL5SYnBZWsesqrxT98YjhBKr gV2r6TL6U2YxRrGZM5J3Rrz39RZcUIcN9RLto2P7YUNao5RGjXOXNKHrmG0k juRSJtBPMm65ishdkjSVaeEmkJsd.VHy5a2K24dQoi3zuP.dSiEAAwTvL_So I8F5iVQPSbvnBPl5KQC2sXkdbmXh.LW5TTuSuW9_nIVDKh3CZ X-Yahoo-SMTP: d20YFqmswBAWc4wd23BcX3DKFU.SSFWadKORXj_BQPQ- Received: from vostro-linux.goebo.site (norbert.aschendorff@85.216.84.153 with plain) by smtp220.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2012 05:54:27 -0700 PDT Message-ID: <5034D680.3060708@yahoo.de> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:54:24 +0200 From: Norbert Aschendorff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120418 Icedove/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <291265921.942752.1345636981593.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca> In-Reply-To: <291265921.942752.1345636981593.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Problem with Linux >= 3.3 as NFSv4 server X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:56:40 -0000 Sorry, I was wrong :|. This time, the packets contain the numeric user and group IDs (in my case, 1000:1000). A pcap file with some NFS requests and responses can be found here: http://lbo.spheniscida.de/Files/nfs.pcap -- sorry for that misinformation in the previous mail :( Norbert From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 22 14:27:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71602106566B for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norbert.aschendorff@yahoo.de) Received: from nm11-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm11-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 182C98FC08 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:27:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.226.180] by nm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 14:27:20 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.45] by tm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 14:27:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp113.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 14:27:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.de; s=s1024; t=1345645640; bh=htiIgn8p3yh7sQreTGgw9SAjSLWnQz1DkVVw54koUtk=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=eYwyXIKvMLE4NR6I0J50WNnsE3oe/FKrj4XtTkmax9w6L9Z2/UBmWkeWvncj7YU2uRL3bFAqOYmxlR3kbsVcCEvIjcKKofvZqU78qHQ637qjijGx7/p70jyDeMLSCtE8+Nz9hqc1q+ltB8bp1gCtbrEtlVBQPM0kb5B0sOET59U= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 144992.15062.bm@smtp113.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: lsu503YVM1kDsQ2gNfEwBATDtIC1ycNxyD60iF0J8ftSfKC Y8kc6IMfgk8oPV_MtHrKLEQBHkDmGKV.sAbL5TRmFo5DD7nsYU5CuLtJa5gt YG1NshTXiLv2pS9f7eFoMPbBsVtXVv5ttMuXv4xgnMUpnlwd58xu0v1W9gIs aZTV4BkxC4u3N3LnW_fmlF1.3uMkvMkVRMKEYBKuOSBmFg22iE0xRasatAom uX9gnW5rIZ.XWmiTSX2L.kcdjEtydCzlyl9jOposwHrPRSeyRY1K6Z5P7SlG BNMrH4xbZVhiyE9xoV4rZdguXc.65Ba6HS66bqY7Rae2OxyONdtw4gTea5hZ 6YGiBub76zhO.fGQ1wN_1bqKukwXPwERSQ9qQR8WuSrwj0h0fljtx5LeHIJQ 8BSYrSWFvKe6yMzyhblDCFb7GidACYzFFzRVLOEqTpf6ikDDqNQenjwx1zKP D7Uqw_kOaTVGlsvm0NDQm_nApRsXY7Q3Bk9Azisq3w4Sir8w.v3agD7KbEyE - X-Yahoo-SMTP: d20YFqmswBAWc4wd23BcX3DKFU.SSFWadKORXj_BQPQ- Received: from vostro-linux.goebo.site (norbert.aschendorff@85.216.84.153 with plain) by smtp113.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2012 07:27:20 -0700 PDT Message-ID: <5034EC46.4030205@yahoo.de> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:27:18 +0200 From: Norbert Aschendorff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120418 Icedove/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <50325008.200@yahoo.de> In-Reply-To: <50325008.200@yahoo.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:32:20 +0000 Subject: Re: Problem with Linux >= 3.3 as NFSv4 server X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:27:21 -0000 It looks as if the problem is related to this bug which shows the exactly same symptoms (if you look at the package dumps). It's also Kernel 3.3 with which it also begun here. And with kernel 3.1, it works (same here). --> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=756897 I don't know what's the problem anyway. Maybe changed kernel interfaces? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 22 15:21:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1021065670 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:21:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norbert.aschendorff@yahoo.de) Received: from nm12-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A3B88FC18 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:20:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 15:20:53 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.194] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 15:20:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 15:20:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.de; s=s1024; t=1345648853; bh=igVavljDw7aj4HAA4iqhZBeGsiav9rhrSEXJl1f4TJ8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XzgEjEGQdpyYPG+D7PDmEXkhSOjM23yxq742Nlx7y/FIXH3O5TXZWcI2/kqWz4VcHxT0OmWVtfisFwLXqXQ+tvWCIKCv8E+8TBnNH2IYqoypyAtKcsAD/tC4+WmC0iAvu4gGB9LMI+QvvkgWvmAbQjrisASi+LVY4B5P86W2GnQ= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 348798.39527.bm@smtp203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: i0_Udy0VM1n.i8HiTLK.wXtP0TPrEm3iMzpUZA7p2gf5Qzo EadEjQ4PuU_pmEWxoro5bzBp7h_tGe7_04TgFqG7FTO86qnMsC_xrNNWWPF5 ScrSposLnbF74DlSBp4A1JKDD_TjrjNFR97G0MxlZHPVA9Zqel9zmGQBCBke 7TJfZuE_kWE8lcxB98eUrpM0vrTBzyysQX5LSs_6gmqZp3TWH7i7_DLaOcN9 65PCeVy9GDVPizfWpK4LFHqOu1O_DbR.YsRzMc_s4G60PDoen0wNghlfmexK tcsCvMYzvrnfqX7R1rMtmyv3kixO.q15RylacMXDnVolllONXSQsFWimBCuo _QBos1R2_JfWnIbkhGtlYg7WPtcQOnRdrsObMRQhDHLH76VLj55FOunIOj6L 3XZ24S74UktHFfGo.V_DGBmKFsUQ0lwhCam.9_b9bTq48 X-Yahoo-SMTP: d20YFqmswBAWc4wd23BcX3DKFU.SSFWadKORXj_BQPQ- Received: from vostro-linux.goebo.site (norbert.aschendorff@85.216.84.153 with plain) by smtp203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2012 08:20:53 -0700 PDT Message-ID: <5034F8D4.40000@yahoo.de> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:20:52 +0200 From: Norbert Aschendorff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120418 Icedove/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <291265921.942752.1345636981593.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca> <5034D680.3060708@yahoo.de> In-Reply-To: <5034D680.3060708@yahoo.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:32:32 +0000 Subject: Re: Problem with Linux >= 3.3 as NFSv4 server X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:21:00 -0000 And just another thing: Using the Fedora machine (also kernel 3.5) as server, I see the exactly same behavior. Sending '1000' (numeric UID) instead of actual username. Using Kernel 3.2 on the server, the translation even works when using the same username and different IDs (as it should...). From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 22 16:52:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4F7106566C; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:52:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [217.69.76.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430728FC15; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDDA56A6006; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:52:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7MGqdSX006024; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:52:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: (from lars@localhost) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q7MGqdVr004696; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:52:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lars) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:52:39 +0200 From: Lars Engels To: Thomas Steen Rasmussen Message-ID: <20120822165239.GX32916@e-new.0x20.net> References: <5007CFE6.6030808@intersonic.se> <500853DA.8050502@intersonic.se> <201207311632.30938.jhb@freebsd.org> <20120822093317.GW32916@e-new.0x20.net> <5034D4CD.4030301@gibfest.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="iAq/E3df7QH9m+R5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5034D4CD.4030301@gibfest.dk> X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.3 X-Operation-System: FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, John Baldwin Subject: Re: Thinkpad X61s cannot boot 9.1-BETA1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:52:42 -0000 --iAq/E3df7QH9m+R5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 02:47:09PM +0200, Thomas Steen Rasmussen wrote: >=20 > On 22-08-2012 11:33, Lars Engels wrote: > > > > I have a T61 running 9.1-BETA1 (with PC-BSD). In most cases it is > > booting fine, but from time to time it hangs at boot time but the last > > lines are uhub0: ... to uhub4 > > Is that the same or a different issue? > Hello, >=20 > I have that exact issue on an X301 after upgrading from 9.0 to > 9-STABLE a little while ago. It feels like it happens mostly when > rebooting from Windows to FreeBSD (dualboot machine), but I've > seen it from a cold boot as well. I've never seen it twice in > a row - turning the machine off and on again (by holding the > power button down) and it boots normally the next time. >=20 > I am willing to test patches or enable extra debugging, or > help out any other way I can :) Have you ever seen that with verbose boot enabled? --iAq/E3df7QH9m+R5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlA1DlcACgkQKc512sD3afhHmACgwGK11y1p0uOtr9lxYJgpoPHe xHQAnRTeNqTkwFhr5uXTDy7ON62AuuiY =aA1w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --iAq/E3df7QH9m+R5-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 22 17:07:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EF7106566C for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norbert.aschendorff@yahoo.de) Received: from nm28-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm28-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 61CBD8FC1E for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm28.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 17:07:19 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.127] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 17:07:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 17:07:19 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.de; s=s1024; t=1345655239; bh=Zg5bmN8TJv7VKJkf6IsrfX5HBdJjisliLoQSasJvDkc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=quU6YGusGWwSKAFS7HnD9+eQ/loVK08egDpXMY8od1JRqybnNoJUu9rZlPLohpq9AE/jKMty1GWC/O3B9Xh1GkI9BwrhU8xYHlQEeHIgbF/CNaBZQnQuO3kJ+KFIyxoLqPqDeKOxDGCk/4cT002EIwGxC23w5PtzcOIBNNnYabI= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 236922.51621.bm@smtp206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: TyugmVQVM1l1pBJgta5mgNPM_RQJWZkIeE_21llWdUag1t9 1nPRN3LKqi3x15DlqdWGn7l6x49r4phMC7mQ9Ty3cneBr5iMv9iZUDlygCeS 1azU931Pff9z_ddgnIj66QeRPSHFdun7nbiSsIqsjVlw_MpFlpf4RLUaBciw HaHFXM0DGXDa0.JMj84DoSAsTOax..xl_0Zy4FGVxsmuUuhUVC1JiWJgivgB b5I36JEsZm.oRMDPaeb61A8BFszpYk.BlQmLC0iPBGmSi5OFJuCV2dN4h645 eiKF8O.DSeitOb0NV8sFOu6Lk9RyD0Cw1NM3lpcgIxrD22o5bAEe8LP5BhDl zwR8xu9hg_MoYtw3KOJzaVsWrqLAfyl3NhLjfXakwOVNnBqcKz9bnx_rUloQ Tyqlj5BjqI50xjefXl8Y- X-Yahoo-SMTP: d20YFqmswBAWc4wd23BcX3DKFU.SSFWadKORXj_BQPQ- Received: from vostro-linux.goebo.site (norbert.aschendorff@85.216.84.153 with plain) by smtp206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2012 10:07:19 -0700 PDT Message-ID: <503511C5.7090009@yahoo.de> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:07:17 +0200 From: Norbert Aschendorff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120418 Icedove/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <50325008.200@yahoo.de> In-Reply-To: <50325008.200@yahoo.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [CLOSED] Re: Problem with Linux >= 3.3 as NFSv4 server X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:07:25 -0000 As this is obviously a Linux (kernel(?)) problem, I think I can close this thread. And thank you for your answers, Rick :) Norbert From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 22 18:02:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB03106566B; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:02:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thomas@gibfest.dk) Received: from mail.tyknet.dk (mail.tyknet.dk [176.9.9.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8212F8FC12; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:02:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.20.15.78] (out1.hq.siminn.dk [195.184.109.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.tyknet.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 90F96C9AA3; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:02:27 +0200 (CEST) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 mail.tyknet.dk 90F96C9AA3 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=gibfest.dk; s=default; t=1345658547; bh=ePHO1w//1hCzf91oRMILC/biRhr2Dd4PdUgMc80Wv5Q=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=Egq+In4iPKL7iYEMwKN7wsu5WaOAbfQLD7AvJ7bmLcBv2ZKQr5ZbH38ukgYGGAzPk 2rDw47yDe1lYJ2/Gz8YzmDWbQ1WGgooM4VW7S3wbTA20F4nKiX55OVZRcK3EFowRrr pkx/NLvT7V7CDyWk9vXdBjh4titgECTC8UaQtCpQ= Message-ID: <50351EA4.4040401@gibfest.dk> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:02:12 +0200 From: Thomas Steen Rasmussen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Engels References: <5007CFE6.6030808@intersonic.se> <500853DA.8050502@intersonic.se> <201207311632.30938.jhb@freebsd.org> <20120822093317.GW32916@e-new.0x20.net> <5034D4CD.4030301@gibfest.dk> <20120822165239.GX32916@e-new.0x20.net> In-Reply-To: <20120822165239.GX32916@e-new.0x20.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, John Baldwin Subject: Re: Thinkpad X61s cannot boot 9.1-BETA1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:02:29 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 22-08-2012 18:52, Lars Engels wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 02:47:09PM +0200, Thomas Steen Rasmussen wrote: >> >> On 22-08-2012 11:33, Lars Engels wrote: >>> >>> I have a T61 running 9.1-BETA1 (with PC-BSD). In most cases it is >>> booting fine, but from time to time it hangs at boot time but the last >>> lines are uhub0: ... to uhub4 >>> Is that the same or a different issue? >> Hello, >> >> I have that exact issue on an X301 after upgrading from 9.0 to >> 9-STABLE a little while ago. It feels like it happens mostly when >> rebooting from Windows to FreeBSD (dualboot machine), but I've >> seen it from a cold boot as well. I've never seen it twice in >> a row - turning the machine off and on again (by holding the >> power button down) and it boots normally the next time. >> >> I am willing to test patches or enable extra debugging, or >> help out any other way I can :) > > Have you ever seen that with verbose boot enabled? Hello, No, but I can boot verbosely the next times I boot and see if it comes up ? /Thomas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlA1HqQACgkQGjEBQafC9MBflwCfbPDRb9eFX6YVWYhzisWbT/e6 kGsAn1ax0GwQ3LQpckxoJdn4YTedFEvg =pY/j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 22 21:24:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6326F106566C; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 21:24:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1718FC0A; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 21:24:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds11 with SMTP id ds11so32019wgb.31 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:24:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Ab7tphA3O9kDpw1E4gAUagiOmWG46L921bNsF4/GruM=; b=PqzlsoyMWeg5o/f7z/RjYEbpmfIuDFL67n5GZ3XT2bHDoFYpiKFgxlyyiU6JwAV6uz SJ4Tn80YQrj131gGgyuzhLu921QejTd0ZvoSwNmXxA3BoyaRvjKD7z2fzOJqIjIoPkL9 cr9SjcbDtpySZ3Yc8vowGkoTHmJvWdFHXcYd5M7tGw2ir3x16cN9x6g9ey0SpOVwxQR1 G5l+l+oYSEz4Rc/GnNXrSlNYB3XdhqncfPs/Htx7bfYNXwjGOv3xtyHUzqDY/7kyb2bz 51T2s69DJ/fHgUWdk6FJkUTbvhnXW3LVbTwmdVfjJjIDrcIQkG7A7DLVjkjqdryJD0/H FAKg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.78.170 with SMTP id c10mr9012752wix.3.1345670673269; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:24:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.63.76 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:24:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <50351EA4.4040401@gibfest.dk> References: <5007CFE6.6030808@intersonic.se> <500853DA.8050502@intersonic.se> <201207311632.30938.jhb@freebsd.org> <20120822093317.GW32916@e-new.0x20.net> <5034D4CD.4030301@gibfest.dk> <20120822165239.GX32916@e-new.0x20.net> <50351EA4.4040401@gibfest.dk> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:24:33 -0700 Message-ID: From: Kevin Oberman To: Thomas Steen Rasmussen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Lars Engels , John Baldwin Subject: Re: Thinkpad X61s cannot boot 9.1-BETA1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 21:24:35 -0000 On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Thomas Steen Rasmussen wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 22-08-2012 18:52, Lars Engels wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 02:47:09PM +0200, Thomas Steen Rasmussen wrote: >>> >>> On 22-08-2012 11:33, Lars Engels wrote: >>>> >>>> I have a T61 running 9.1-BETA1 (with PC-BSD). In most cases it is >>>> booting fine, but from time to time it hangs at boot time but the last >>>> lines are uhub0: ... to uhub4 >>>> Is that the same or a different issue? >>> Hello, >>> >>> I have that exact issue on an X301 after upgrading from 9.0 to >>> 9-STABLE a little while ago. It feels like it happens mostly when >>> rebooting from Windows to FreeBSD (dualboot machine), but I've >>> seen it from a cold boot as well. I've never seen it twice in >>> a row - turning the machine off and on again (by holding the >>> power button down) and it boots normally the next time. >>> >>> I am willing to test patches or enable extra debugging, or >>> help out any other way I can :) >> >> Have you ever seen that with verbose boot enabled? > Hello, > > No, but I can boot verbosely the next times I boot and see if it comes up ? > > /Thomas Also let us know what the last thing printed is. last time I had a system that failed to boot with 9-Stable, it turned out to be a problem with the CDROM, even though a non-verbose boot provided no such indication. It just stopped after the last successful device probe. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer E-mail: kob6558@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 22 21:27:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D22106564A for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 21:27:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.strangled.net) Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F638FC12 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 21:27:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id pqf71j0010FhH24A1xTVeR; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 21:27:29 +0000 Received: from koitsu.strangled.net ([67.180.84.87]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id pxTU1j00F1t3BNj8UxTU97; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 21:27:28 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 37C4973A1C; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:27:28 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120822212728.GA3561@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: FreeBSD 9.x default filesystem layout and installworld X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 21:27:35 -0000 (Please keep me CC'd, as I am not subscribed to the list) With the release of FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE that the default filesystem layout (specifically the "Guided" -> "Entire Disk" choice) is to have a single filesystem (/). Shown here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall-partitioning.html I'm not against this idea (I'm well-aware of the pros and cons), but there seems to be a conundrum here. The Handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html ...says in Section 25.7.1 and 25.7.5 to use "mount -u /" (effectively the same thing as "mount -u -w /"). But neither /usr/src/UPDATING nor /usr/src/Makefile (the latter being more important if you ask me) mention this fact. Section 25.7.10 -- which is explicitly for installworld -- says nothing about needing this. Yet, if you don't, installworld will fail complaining that the root filesystem is read-only: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/da0p2 [rw]... Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: # cd /usr/src # make installworld mktemp: mkdtemp failed on /tmp/install.k0ti89Mb: Read-only file system "/usr/src/Makefile.inc1", line 186: warning: "/usr/bin/mktemp -d -u -t install" returned non-zero status mkdir -p usage: mkdir [-pv] [-m mode] directory_name *** Error code 64 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. # mount /dev/da0p2 on / (ufs, local, read-only) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) Thus: # mount -u / # make installworld {...works fine...} That got me wondering: in all my years of having separate filesystems, I've never had to "mount -u /" after booting into SU and doing an installworld -- which updates contents in /lib (key point there). So what's doing it? The answer is "mount -a" or "mount -a -t ufs", which most of us do to mount things like /usr, /var, and /tmp when in SUM. /etc/fstab obviously says / should be mounted rw and "mount -a" does in fact honour that. Per the man page (last part is what's important): -a All the file systems described in fstab(5) are mounted. Excep- tions are those marked as ``noauto'', those marked as ``late'' (unless the -l option was specified), those excluded by the -t flag (see below), or if they are already mounted (except the root file system which is always remounted to preserve traditional single user mode behavior). Verification: # reboot {...} Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/da0p2 [rw]... Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: # mount /dev/da0p2 on / (ufs, local, read-only) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) # mount -a -t ufs # mount /dev/da0p2 on / (ufs, local, journaled soft-updates) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) Either way, the documentation should be updated (both in the Handbook and in /usr/src/Makefile) to reflect this need (either "mount -u /" or "mount -a -t ufs", even on systems with only one filesystem). And while I'm here: this line in /usr/src/Makefile has been wrong for quite some time (over a decade): # 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). That should be "shutdown -r now". Yes there is a quite a difference. However, just to make it clear, the "reboot" in step 10 is correct. I can file a PR for all of this, but the /usr/src/Makefile modifications are not maintained by the doc team so I imagine someone with src commit bits would need to fix that. HTH, or at least food for thought. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@koitsu.org | | UNIX Systems Administrator http://jdc.koitsu.org/ | | Mountain View, CA, US | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 22 22:20:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99463106566B for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:20:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmacklem@uoguelph.ca) Received: from esa-jnhn.mail.uoguelph.ca (esa-jnhn.mail.uoguelph.ca [131.104.91.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1358FC1C for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:20:43 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap8EADRaNVCDaFvO/2dsb2JhbABFhgG1V4IgAQEBAwEBAQEgBCcgCwUWGAICDRkCKQEJJgYIBwQBHASHZgYLpg6TKoEhigGFZYESA5MngiuBFI5/gn+BRQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,811,1336363200"; d="scan'208";a="176310028" Received: from erie.cs.uoguelph.ca (HELO zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca) ([131.104.91.206]) by esa-jnhn-pri.mail.uoguelph.ca with ESMTP; 22 Aug 2012 18:20:36 -0400 Received: from zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3899B4017; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:20:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:20:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Macklem To: Norbert Aschendorff Message-ID: <707224415.989556.1345674035874.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca> In-Reply-To: <5034D680.3060708@yahoo.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [172.17.91.201] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.10_GA_2692 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.10_GA_2692) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with Linux >= 3.3 as NFSv4 server X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:20:43 -0000 Norbert Aschendorff wrote: > Sorry, I was wrong :|. This time, the packets contain the numeric user > and group IDs (in my case, 1000:1000). A pcap file with some NFS > requests and responses can be found here: > http://lbo.spheniscida.de/Files/nfs.pcap -- sorry for that > misinformation in the previous mail :( > Ah, ok. Here's my version of the "numeric uid string" story for NFSv4. During early testing, this was done, since none of the implementations had the uid<->name mapping capability (rpc.imapd for Linux, nfsused for FreeBSD). It was not allowed by RFC3530 for NFSv4.0. Recently, there has been a push to allow this again, since it makes implementing a NFSv4 root mount much easier. (When booting an NFSv4 mounted root, the userland daemon can't be running, so either some mappings have to be hardwired or the numeric uid/gid put in the string.) I'm not sure if the draft of rfc3530bis (the updated NFSv4.0 spec that isn't yet an RFC) stands on this, but I suspect adding support for this in the FreeBSD client will come soon, at least for NFSv4.1. Summary: Although it isn't allowed by RFC3530, numeric uid/gids in the string on the wire probably will be allowed soon. --> It could be argued that the new Linux kernel supports the new draft of rfc3530bis and that this is not a bug. I will cobble together a patch for this for the FreeBSD client soon. (I think most of the code might still be there, but disabled.) It will probably "understand" the numeric strings on the receive side and only send them when nfsuserd isn't running. I'll post to freebsd-fs@ (and try to remember to cc you) when I have such a patch available for testing, rick > Norbert > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 22 22:24:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F60106564A for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:24:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmacklem@uoguelph.ca) Received: from esa-jnhn.mail.uoguelph.ca (esa-jnhn.mail.uoguelph.ca [131.104.91.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9058FC14 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:24:49 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap8EAF9bNVCDaFvO/2dsb2JhbABFhgG1V4IgAQEBAwEBAQEgKyALBRYYAgINGQIpAQkmBggHBAEcBIdmBgumC5MqgSGKAYVlgRIDkyeCK4EUjn+Cf4FF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,811,1336363200"; d="scan'208";a="176310304" Received: from erie.cs.uoguelph.ca (HELO zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca) ([131.104.91.206]) by esa-jnhn-pri.mail.uoguelph.ca with ESMTP; 22 Aug 2012 18:24:50 -0400 Received: from zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B51B3F36; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:24:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:24:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Macklem To: Norbert Aschendorff Message-ID: <1908080965.989624.1345674289156.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca> In-Reply-To: <503511C5.7090009@yahoo.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [172.17.91.201] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.10_GA_2692 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.10_GA_2692) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CLOSED] Re: Problem with Linux >= 3.3 as NFSv4 server X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:24:50 -0000 Norbert Aschendorff wrote: > As this is obviously a Linux (kernel(?)) problem, I think I can close > this thread. And thank you for your answers, Rick :) > As noted in my other post, it comes down to which NFSv4 spec is the current one, since although I haven't looked, I'm fairly sure that numeric uid/gid strings are allowed by the rfc3530bis draft. Ideally, the Linux server would have a tunable to enable/disable this, but I have no idea if that is the case. You might want to check on the linux nfs mailing list? 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Warmest, LH From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 04:50:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74C3106566B; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 04:50:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kensmith@buffalo.edu) Received: from localmailA.acsu.buffalo.edu (localmaila.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.5.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779FE8FC0A; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 04:50:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localmailA.acsu.buffalo.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id E545EC723; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localmailA.acsu.buffalo.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localmailA.acsu.buffalo.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD560F1FA; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.acsu.buffalo.edu (smtp2.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.5.254]) by localmailA.acsu.buffalo.edu (Prefixe) with ESMTP id 863C4C723; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe-72-231-248-9.buffalo.res.rr.com [72.231.248.9]) (Authenticated sender: kensmith@buffalo.edu) by smtp2.acsu.buffalo.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 262FB49C7E; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Smith To: freebsd-stable Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Fdn4LpzyPnzZChSSjpcK" Organization: U. Buffalo Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:46 -0400 Message-ID: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-PM-EL-Spam-Prob: XX: 28% Cc: re Subject: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 04:50:55 -0000 --=-Fdn4LpzyPnzZChSSjpcK Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The first release candidate of the 9.1-RELEASE release cycle is now available on the FTP servers for amd64, i386, and powerpc64. The MD5/SHA256 checksums are at the bottom of this message. The ISO images and, for architectures that support it, the memory stick images are available here: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/9.1/ (or any of the FreeBSD mirror sites). Current plans are for there to be one more RC build, followed by the release itself. The current target schedule is here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html If you notice any problems you can report them through the normal Gnats PR system or here on the -stable mailing list. With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has been decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to 9.1-RC1. If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1. The freebsd-update(8) utility supports binary upgrades of i386 and amd64= =20 systems running earlier FreeBSD releases. Systems running 9.0-RELEASE can upgrade as follows: # freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RC1 During this process, FreeBSD Update may ask the user to help by merging=20 some configuration files or by confirming that the automatically performed merging was done correctly. # freebsd-update install The system must be rebooted with the newly installed kernel before=20 continuing. # shutdown -r now After rebooting, freebsd-update needs to be run again to install the new= =20 userland components, and the system needs to be rebooted again: # freebsd-update install # shutdown -r now Users of earlier FreeBSD releases (FreeBSD 7.X, 8.X) can also use freebsd-update to upgrade to FreeBSD 9.1-RC1, but will be prompted to rebuild all third-party applications (e.g., anything installed from the ports tree) after the second invocation of "freebsd-update install", in order to handle differences in the system libraries between FreeBSD 7.X or FreeBSD 8.X and FreeBSD 9.X. Checksums: MD5 (FreeBSD-9.1-RC1-amd64-bootonly.iso) =3D 370b1c7b5a816289c6822f577fbf59= d5 MD5 (FreeBSD-9.1-RC1-amd64-disc1.iso) =3D a6d6bd8c47509e71af2b74a39d1ed6be MD5 (FreeBSD-9.1-RC1-amd64-memstick.img) =3D 320bbcb382bd335e835636278cdb16= 8d MD5 (FreeBSD-9.1-RC1-i386-bootonly.iso) =3D 0e3bf9d6f233b0502bac54b45d8a8fe= 9 MD5 (FreeBSD-9.1-RC1-i386-disc1.iso) =3D 2d911a7c7e3ed6f93bf0a03d0696aab7 MD5 (FreeBSD-9.1-RC1-i386-memstick.img) =3D 64608c316269f38390501b331b954b4= 4 MD5 (FreeBSD-9.1-RC1-powerpc64-bootonly.iso) =3D 4ea17dc932dad7632d7bea70af= 5e16a7 MD5 (FreeBSD-9.1-RC1-powerpc64-memstick) =3D f28d44cd7fec655d6944cdeabeca2d= 6c MD5 (FreeBSD-9.1-RC1-powerpc64-release.iso) =3D 08742f914353300917c92b33972= 8b80e SHA256 (FreeBSD-9.1-RC1-amd64-bootonly.iso) =3D f080e8c7cecd9bb44240a52e178= 27a94ad178f040b16526d339c8d0f2f1cdfd7 SHA256 (FreeBSD-9.1-RC1-amd64-disc1.iso) =3D 27bc85ec853f590f19ece8ddd672d6= 2bfe58f6d8de874afd71958bd42b48f8c9 SHA256 (FreeBSD-9.1-RC1-amd64-memstick.img) =3D d8312855a32dba9b22fd208c242= 6d136640421ccca459ce429f8a70edee9398c SHA256 (FreeBSD-9.1-RC1-i386-bootonly.iso) =3D 1c8c555aa700d2b3bda77748436a= 1a6c2497521aae0974a7cd97451a27a9e3e4 SHA256 (FreeBSD-9.1-RC1-i386-disc1.iso) =3D f16a310fe80a01555f5d3dd108bae3b= 8e08d01db18d7dd7d4e70e13f0bc0a7a8 SHA256 (FreeBSD-9.1-RC1-i386-memstick.img) =3D 0799b8efd6f8678c474fe8048a26= 5e21b487665f70c6e4172087e3c76b28a798 SHA256 (FreeBSD-9.1-RC1-powerpc64-bootonly.iso) =3D e183acb6cbb5cdbba3b3830= e773c4e49ecb315eb07bde5d91d2e9595ba679d5f SHA256 (FreeBSD-9.1-RC1-powerpc64-memstick) =3D afc19a57f8d7e8b8a49f863f817= 221d7639f1b78288cdb0a7b8ffa5b60632d64 SHA256 (FreeBSD-9.1-RC1-powerpc64-release.iso) =3D 71c8a2965ff1198894e84ce0= 260e801b9e7f234c560bbbe95bf49274d399166d --=20 Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensmith@buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodore Geisel | --=-Fdn4LpzyPnzZChSSjpcK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAlA1tpwACgkQ/G14VSmup/Y6kACfbVCWQA5NZ0njo25e8Bc1UEgf cQAAni91TaYufbu6iOlISAVf86z915sb =gq73 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Fdn4LpzyPnzZChSSjpcK-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 05:31:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54625106566B; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 05:31:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (secure.freebsdsolutions.net [69.55.234.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348F58FC16; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 05:31:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.82] (jn@c-67-182-217-170.hsd1.ut.comcast.net [67.182.217.170]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q7N5OJQx068596 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 23 Aug 2012 01:24:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp From: John Nielsen X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:24:37 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <02E5BFB9-901B-4AA3-9594-160C3259AE66@jnielsen.net> References: To: Daisuke Aoyama X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) X-DCC-sonic.net-Metrics: ns1.jnielsen.net 1117; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.5 at ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iSCSI boot driver 0.2.5 (isboot.ko) has been released. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 05:31:24 -0000 On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:43 PM, Daisuke Aoyama wrote: > You can download the source file from: > http://www.peach.ne.jp/archives/isboot/isboot-0.2.5.tar.gz > ... Daisuke-san- Thank you for this great work! I can see a lot of potential applications = for it. I set up a test machine and got as far as booting the FreeBSD = 10-CURRENT kernel from an istgt LUN, but it failed to find the root = device--the isboot.ko module loaded fine but the iBFT handoff didn't = happen so the network was not configured early enough. This machine has = an sk(4) NIC, and I am chain-loading gPXE using the "undionly.kpxe" = image. I have a few questions for you (or other knowledgeable people on the = list): 1) Does iBFT require hardware support in the NIC? 2) Does iBFT require NIC driver support? 3) Is anything required in loader.conf besides = isboot_load=3D"YES"? 3) How hard would it be to get this working with sk(4)? 4) Is it likely to work (better) if I find an em(4) card = instead? Thanks, JN From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 13:38:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C806106566B; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 13:38:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F738FC08; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 13:38:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q7NDCHob041255; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:12:18 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:12:17 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Ken Smith In-Reply-To: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> Message-ID: <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: re , freebsd-stable Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 13:38:10 -0000 On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:46 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: > With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has been > decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So > csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to 9.1-RC1. > If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1. Assuming the stupid question is the one you didn't ask, just to clarify: does this mean that c*sup won't work with these RCs in particular, or that CVS is dead and SVN becomes mandatory from 9.1-RELEASE? cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 13:48:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722E5106566C; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 13:48:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kensmith@buffalo.edu) Received: from localmailB.acsu.buffalo.edu (localmailb.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.5.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA6B8FC0C; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 13:48:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localmailB.acsu.buffalo.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 48EE22468; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:48:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localmailB.acsu.buffalo.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localmailB.acsu.buffalo.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648D52644; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.acsu.buffalo.edu (smtp3.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.5.226]) by localmailB.acsu.buffalo.edu (Prefixe) with ESMTP id 2444821FA; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.205.32.76] (bauer.cse.buffalo.edu [128.205.32.76]) (Authenticated sender: kensmith@buffalo.edu) by smtp3.acsu.buffalo.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E789935B6F; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:47:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Smith To: Ian Smith In-Reply-To: <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-YgaTk9TK5drZ3Ktdrxbw" Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:47:54 -0400 Message-ID: <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-PM-EL-Spam-Prob: : 9% Cc: re , freebsd-stable Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 13:48:08 -0000 --=-YgaTk9TK5drZ3Ktdrxbw Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 23:12 +1000, Ian Smith wrote: > On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:46 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: >=20 > > With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has been > > decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So > > csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to 9.1-RC1= . > > If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1. >=20 > Assuming the stupid question is the one you didn't ask, just to clarify:= =20 > does this mean that c*sup won't work with these RCs in particular, or=20 > that CVS is dead and SVN becomes mandatory from 9.1-RELEASE? >=20 > cheers, Ian >=20 The latter. If you are not using FreeBSD-Update to handle the updates of a machine you'll need to update your source tree using SVN for release branches (releng/*) from now on. Updates of the CVS repository will continue for the existing stable/* and head for now. I don't think anything has been decided on when that will stop. --=20 Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensmith@buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodor Geisel | --=-YgaTk9TK5drZ3Ktdrxbw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAlA2NIEACgkQ/G14VSmup/aipwCfQB5vcAt/g9ZrFuHkwpxmVzum OSAAnRjqKhZqNq7fED/9UQf2ajQCHVq2 =NRf4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-YgaTk9TK5drZ3Ktdrxbw-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 14:25:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB972106564A; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:25:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF2B8FC17; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:25:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7NEP5RM061091; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 07:25:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) From: Dennis Glatting To: Ken Smith In-Reply-To: <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 07:25:05 -0700 Message-ID: <1345731905.41423.6.camel@btw.pki2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: q7NEP5RM061091 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: freebsd@pki2.com Cc: freebsd-stable , re , Ian Smith Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:25:14 -0000 On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 09:47 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 23:12 +1000, Ian Smith wrote: > > On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:46 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: > > > > > With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has been > > > decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So > > > csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to 9.1-RC1. > > > If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1. > > > > Assuming the stupid question is the one you didn't ask, just to clarify: > > does this mean that c*sup won't work with these RCs in particular, or > > that CVS is dead and SVN becomes mandatory from 9.1-RELEASE? > > > > cheers, Ian > > > > The latter. If you are not using FreeBSD-Update to handle the updates > of a machine you'll need to update your source tree using SVN for > release branches (releng/*) from now on. Updates of the CVS repository > will continue for the existing stable/* and head for now. I don't think > anything has been decided on when that will stop. > Looking in the handbook ([1]) I do not see the mechanics of how to set up a mirror, of which I have three CVS mirrors in different infrastructures. Is there a web page somewhere on how to set up, synchronize, maintain, and use a local mirror? [1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading.html From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 14:28:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D135106566B; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:28:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36568FC15; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:28:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q7NESZ0v043750; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 00:28:36 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 00:28:35 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Ken Smith In-Reply-To: <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> Message-ID: <20120824002504.L33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: re , freebsd-stable Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:28:42 -0000 On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:47:54 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 23:12 +1000, Ian Smith wrote: > > On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:46 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: > > > > > With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has been > > > decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So > > > csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to 9.1-RC1. > > > If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1. > > > > Assuming the stupid question is the one you didn't ask, just to clarify: > > does this mean that c*sup won't work with these RCs in particular, or > > that CVS is dead and SVN becomes mandatory from 9.1-RELEASE? > > > > cheers, Ian > > > > The latter. If you are not using FreeBSD-Update to handle the updates > of a machine you'll need to update your source tree using SVN for > release branches (releng/*) from now on. Updates of the CVS repository > will continue for the existing stable/* and head for now. I don't think > anything has been decided on when that will stop. Thanks Ken. I'm a bit POLAxed; guess I don't read enough lists .. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 14:32:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD631065677; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:32:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B17168FC25; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:32:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7NEW4BV053843 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:32:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q7NEW4lj053840; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:32:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:32:04 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: Dennis Glatting In-Reply-To: <1345731905.41423.6.camel@btw.pki2.com> Message-ID: References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <1345731905.41423.6.camel@btw.pki2.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="2055831798-816878852-1345732324=:35281" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fig.ol.no Cc: re , freebsd-stable , Ian Smith , Ken Smith Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:32:16 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --2055831798-816878852-1345732324=:35281 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 07:25-0700, Dennis Glatting wrote: > On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 09:47 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 23:12 +1000, Ian Smith wrote: > > > On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:46 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: > > > > > > > With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has been > > > > decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So > > > > csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to 9.1-RC1. > > > > If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1. > > > > > > Assuming the stupid question is the one you didn't ask, just to clarify: > > > does this mean that c*sup won't work with these RCs in particular, or > > > that CVS is dead and SVN becomes mandatory from 9.1-RELEASE? > > > > > > cheers, Ian > > > > > > > The latter. If you are not using FreeBSD-Update to handle the updates > > of a machine you'll need to update your source tree using SVN for > > release branches (releng/*) from now on. Updates of the CVS repository > > will continue for the existing stable/* and head for now. I don't think > > anything has been decided on when that will stop. > > > > Looking in the handbook ([1]) I do not see the mechanics of how to set > up a mirror, of which I have three CVS mirrors in different > infrastructures. Is there a web page somewhere on how to set up, > synchronize, maintain, and use a local mirror? > > [1] > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading.html How about this one? http://motoyuki.bsdclub.org/BSD/cvsup.html -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestψl, | Trond Endrestψl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjψvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. dir. 61 14 54 39, | Office.....: +47 61 14 54 39, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ --2055831798-816878852-1345732324=:35281-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 15:26:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE061065686 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:26:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kenfreebsd@icarz.com) Received: from deanna.icarz.com (deanna.icarz.com [207.99.22.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA728FC1A for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:26:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.10.31.177] ([10.10.31.177]) (authenticated bits=0) by deanna.icarz.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q7NFHJ49061663 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 11:17:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kenfreebsd@icarz.com) Message-ID: <5036497F.7020501@icarz.com> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 11:17:19 -0400 From: Ken Menzel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> In-Reply-To: <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 207.99.22.19 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kmenzel@whisolutions.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:26:56 -0000 On 8/23/2012 9:47 AM, Ken Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 23:12 +1000, Ian Smith wrote: >> On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:46 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: >> >> > With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has been >> > decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So >> > csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to 9.1-RC1. >> > If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1. >> >> Assuming the stupid question is the one you didn't ask, just to clarify: >> does this mean that c*sup won't work with these RCs in particular, or >> that CVS is dead and SVN becomes mandatory from 9.1-RELEASE? >> >> cheers, Ian >> > > The latter. If you are not using FreeBSD-Update to handle the updates > of a machine you'll need to update your source tree using SVN for > release branches (releng/*) from now on. Updates of the CVS repository > will continue for the existing stable/* and head for now. I don't think > anything has been decided on when that will stop. > I missed this announcement as well. Should we all use the primary URL or is there a list of mirrors? Is anyone going to be updating the Handbook to reflect this? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/synching.html However I can see this does not even reflect the more recent use of csup instead of cvsup. I found two good primers: http://mebsd.com/configure-freebsd-servers/update-freebsd-source-tree-using-subversion-svn.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/committers-guide/article.html#SUBVERSION-PRIMER The second primer in the committer handbook seems to indicate that it is difficult to run an SVN mirror. This appears to me to be the biggest drawback. I have been using CVS and perforce for years, but subversion is new to me. Thanks, Ken From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 15:36:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2CD106564A for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:36:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryan@shatow.net) Received: from secure.xzibition.com (secure.xzibition.com [173.160.118.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6198FC1B for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:36:35 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=shatow.net; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=sweb; b=pGIf9D v2077iodu558zvHG9r7XSgKLrZN/6+Lefb6bzNn3yxRZw5nO38QxKCRe7uKW+TpJ xlcZovhsarVwFdvyBefFU5J5i3XdeKDdSG8/eFfzMu+15shn+G6e+JCXmlSL2E/l V8aGiFySq9aP88rCC4wAQCWfE0Ax3BzUX4+2Y= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=shatow.net; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=sweb; bh=JrzzmlwL8htz ceKE2u5zD8uQq/sSh9Og7oyhz031S2E=; b=H2+Ski/IiN93qZdMRUujXS6ApuM9 XJifaXPjxkFXnL8xyGdZ0QNSF7ghI79K1IsY+spTyzFg3lOfdxtoFZIsGFdjt5zH vRDyatWpLQO1qPr4TnAfiPBIfj68uueR8YTEnGsKQbFaGeE/XYdOzvBmnLfE/3a1 pGk1fjKRcoan050= Received: (qmail 91359 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2012 10:36:27 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.74?) (bryan@shatow.net@74.94.87.209) by sweb.xzibition.com with ESMTPA; 23 Aug 2012 10:36:27 -0500 Message-ID: <50364E0E.3090205@shatow.net> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:36:46 -0500 From: Bryan Drewery User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120824002504.L33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20120824002504.L33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable , re , Ian Smith , Ken Smith Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:36:36 -0000 On 8/23/2012 9:28 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:47:54 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 23:12 +1000, Ian Smith wrote: > > > On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:46 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: > > > > > > > With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has been > > > > decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So > > > > csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to 9.1-RC1. > > > > If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1. > > > > > > Assuming the stupid question is the one you didn't ask, just to clarify: > > > does this mean that c*sup won't work with these RCs in particular, or > > > that CVS is dead and SVN becomes mandatory from 9.1-RELEASE? > > > > > > cheers, Ian > > > > > > > The latter. If you are not using FreeBSD-Update to handle the updates > > of a machine you'll need to update your source tree using SVN for > > release branches (releng/*) from now on. Updates of the CVS repository > > will continue for the existing stable/* and head for now. I don't think > > anything has been decided on when that will stop. > > Thanks Ken. I'm a bit POLAxed; guess I don't read enough lists .. I'm a bit surprised too. Shouldn't this mean svn should be in base? If not, should csup come OUT of base? Bryan From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 15:43:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35694106566B for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:43:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@damnhippie.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168148FC12 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qEbq1j03S16AWCUA1Fj5q0; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:43:05 +0000 Received: from damnhippie.dyndns.org ([24.8.232.202]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qFj41j00J4NgCEG8SFj5eA; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:43:05 +0000 Received: from [172.22.42.240] (revolution.hippie.lan [172.22.42.240]) by damnhippie.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q7NFh1ke025123; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:43:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@damnhippie.dyndns.org) From: Ian Lepore To: kmenzel@whisolutions.com In-Reply-To: <5036497F.7020501@icarz.com> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <5036497F.7020501@icarz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:43:01 -0600 Message-ID: <1345736581.27688.403.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:43:06 -0000 On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 11:17 -0400, Ken Menzel wrote: > > I found two good primers: > http://mebsd.com/configure-freebsd-servers/update-freebsd-source-tree-using-subversion-svn.html > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/committers-guide/article.html#SUBVERSION-PRIMER > > The second primer in the committer handbook seems to indicate that it > is difficult to run an SVN mirror. This appears to me to be the > biggest drawback. I have been using CVS and perforce for years, but > subversion is new to me. It may be difficult to run an svn mirror that allows you to commit locally and get those changes back to the project, but running a read-only mirror is trivial. The script I run nightly from cron to sync my local mirror is: #!/bin/sh # # svnsync to pull in changes from FreeBSD to my local mirror. # svnsync sync file:///local/vc/svn/base I can't remember how I initially created and populated the mirror, but it's likely I grabbed a snapshot of the mirror at work and brought it home on a thumb drive (just to avoid initial network DL time). -- Ian From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 16:01:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A616106564A; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:01:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dg@pki2.com) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231748FC14; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [192.168.23.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7NG16PJ094174 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:01:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dg@pki2.com) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:01:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Dennis Glatting X-X-Sender: dennisg@btw.pki2.com To: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <1345731905.41423.6.camel@btw.pki2.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: q7NG16PJ094174 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: dg@pki2.com Cc: freebsd-stable , Dennis Glatting , re , Ken Smith , Ian Smith Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:01:39 -0000 On Thu, 23 Aug 2012, Trond Endrest?l wrote: > On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 07:25-0700, Dennis Glatting wrote: > >> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 09:47 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: >>> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 23:12 +1000, Ian Smith wrote: >>>> On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:46 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: >>>> >>>> > With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has been >>>> > decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So >>>> > csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to 9.1-RC1. >>>> > If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1. >>>> >>>> Assuming the stupid question is the one you didn't ask, just to clarify: >>>> does this mean that c*sup won't work with these RCs in particular, or >>>> that CVS is dead and SVN becomes mandatory from 9.1-RELEASE? >>>> >>>> cheers, Ian >>>> >>> >>> The latter. If you are not using FreeBSD-Update to handle the updates >>> of a machine you'll need to update your source tree using SVN for >>> release branches (releng/*) from now on. Updates of the CVS repository >>> will continue for the existing stable/* and head for now. I don't think >>> anything has been decided on when that will stop. >>> >> >> Looking in the handbook ([1]) I do not see the mechanics of how to set >> up a mirror, of which I have three CVS mirrors in different >> infrastructures. Is there a web page somewhere on how to set up, >> synchronize, maintain, and use a local mirror? >> >> [1] >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading.html > > How about this one? > > http://motoyuki.bsdclub.org/BSD/cvsup.html > I have CVS mirrors. The topic is SVN. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 16:13:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB36106564A for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:13:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dg@pki2.com) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CCE8FC48 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [192.168.23.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7NGDXh3097616 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:13:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dg@pki2.com) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:13:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Dennis Glatting X-X-Sender: dennisg@btw.pki2.com To: kmenzel@whisolutions.com In-Reply-To: <5036497F.7020501@icarz.com> Message-ID: References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <5036497F.7020501@icarz.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: q7NGDXh3097616 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: dg@pki2.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:13:37 -0000 On Thu, 23 Aug 2012, Ken Menzel wrote: > On 8/23/2012 9:47 AM, Ken Smith wrote: >> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 23:12 +1000, Ian Smith wrote: >>> On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:46 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: >>> >>> > With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has been >>> > decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So >>> > csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to 9.1-RC1. >>> > If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1. >>> >>> Assuming the stupid question is the one you didn't ask, just to clarify: >>> does this mean that c*sup won't work with these RCs in particular, or >>> that CVS is dead and SVN becomes mandatory from 9.1-RELEASE? >>> >>> cheers, Ian >>> >> >> The latter. If you are not using FreeBSD-Update to handle the updates >> of a machine you'll need to update your source tree using SVN for >> release branches (releng/*) from now on. Updates of the CVS repository >> will continue for the existing stable/* and head for now. I don't think >> anything has been decided on when that will stop. >> > I missed this announcement as well. > > Should we all use the primary URL or is there a list of mirrors? > > Is anyone going to be updating the Handbook to reflect this? > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/synching.html > > However I can see this does not even reflect the more recent use of csup > instead of cvsup. > > I found two good primers: > http://mebsd.com/configure-freebsd-servers/update-freebsd-source-tree-using-subversion-svn.html > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/committers-guide/article.html#SUBVERSION-PRIMER > > The second primer in the committer handbook seems to indicate that it is > difficult to run an SVN mirror. This appears to me to be the biggest > drawback. I have been using CVS and perforce for years, but subversion > is new to me. > Thanks. I have several cases where I cannot have machines going to the Internet to update for various reasons, including WAN loading and policies, but I can have them hit local mirrors. I have three sites: #1, Static with less than ten servers. Strong maintenance policies. #2, Mostly static with twenty servers, virtual instances, laptops, and sticks. Loose maintenance policies #3, Largely dynamic but three servers and instances are static. Regulated environment with associated maintenance policies. If CVS is fading then I need to move my CVS mirrors to SVN mirrors. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 16:20:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC362106564A for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:20:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: from mail.ultra-secure.de (mail.ultra-secure.de [78.47.114.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A3F8FC14 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:20:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 51469 invoked by uid 89); 23 Aug 2012 14:20:13 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 51464, pid: 51466, t: 0.0417s scanners: attach: 1.4.0 clamav: 0.97.3/m:54/d:15286 Received: from unknown (HELO suse2.ip-tech.ch) (rainer@ultra-secure.de@212.71.117.1) by mail.ultra-secure.de with ESMTPA; 23 Aug 2012 14:20:13 -0000 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:20:15 +0200 From: Rainer Duffner To: Ian Lepore Message-ID: <20120823182015.0d93701b@suse2.ip-tech.ch> In-Reply-To: <1345736581.27688.403.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <5036497F.7020501@icarz.com> <1345736581.27688.403.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.22.1; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: kmenzel@whisolutions.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:20:23 -0000 Am Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:43:01 -0600 schrieb Ian Lepore : > On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 11:17 -0400, Ken Menzel wrote: > > > > I found two good primers: > > http://mebsd.com/configure-freebsd-servers/update-freebsd-source-tree-using-subversion-svn.html > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/committers-guide/article.html#SUBVERSION-PRIMER > > > > The second primer in the committer handbook seems to indicate that > > it is difficult to run an SVN mirror. This appears to me to be the > > biggest drawback. I have been using CVS and perforce for years, > > but subversion is new to me. > > It may be difficult to run an svn mirror that allows you to commit > locally and get those changes back to the project, but running a > read-only mirror is trivial. The script I run nightly from cron to > sync my local mirror is: > > #!/bin/sh > # > # svnsync to pull in changes from FreeBSD to my local mirror. > # > svnsync sync file:///local/vc/svn/base > I may have misunderstood all this, but I run a local read-only mirror of the source-repository for my tinderbox (via the cvsup-mirror port). Do I have to change that from csup to svn, too, then? Given the fuzz made here about deprecating (or not) pkg_* recently, I can hardly believe that this was "broken" "just so". Is there a new port that does the same for svn? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 16:21:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFAC21065675 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:21:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anders@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fupp.net (totem.fix.no [80.91.36.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0418FC1B for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:21:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from totem.fix.no (totem.fix.no [80.91.36.20]) by fupp.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930A658059; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:15:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fupp.net ([80.91.36.20]) by totem.fix.no (totem.fix.no [80.91.36.20]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 8q-PZ71EbF8Z; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:15:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: by fupp.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F3E5358058; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:15:05 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:15:05 +0200 From: Anders Nordby To: YongHyeon PYUN Message-ID: <20120823161505.GA64558@fupp.net> References: <20120703185704.GA81296@fupp.net> <20120705010136.GA3218@michelle.cdnetworks.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120705010136.GA3218@michelle.cdnetworks.com> X-PGP-Key: http://anders.fix.no/pgp/ X-PGP-Key-FingerPrint: 1E0F C53C D8DF 6A8F EAAD 19C5 D12A BC9F 0083 5956 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bge problems in RELENG_9, bge0: watchdog timeout -- resetting X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:21:55 -0000 Hi, On ons, jul 04, 2012 at 06:01:36pm -0700, YongHyeon PYUN wrote: > There is a WIP version at the following URL. > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/bge/if_bge.c > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/bge/if_bgereg.h > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/bge/brgphy.c > > I have a couple of positive feedbacks but it seems it still has > some issues. Let me know whether it makes any difference on your > box. I tried these bge source files in 9.1-PRERELEASE this week, and it does not help. If I try to log in with SSH I get: Aug 23 17:30:32 login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyu0 bge0: watchdog timeout -- resetting Aug 23 17:31:31 kernel: bge0: watchdog timeout -- resetting Aug 23 17:31:31 kernel: bge0: link state changed to DOWN Aug 23 17:31:35 kernel: bge0: link state changed to UP bge0: watchdog timeout -- resetting Aug 23 17:33:24 kernel: bge0: watchdog timeout -- resetting Aug 23 17:33:24 kernel: bge0: link state changed to DOWN Aug 23 17:33:28 kernel: bge0: link state changed to UP I tried setting hw.bge.allow_asf to 0, but it did not help. During boot I get: pcib3: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 pci0:3:0:0: failed to read VPD data. bge0: mem 0xf6bf0000-0xf6bfffff0xf6be0000-0xf6beffff,0xf6bd0000-0xf6bdffff irq 32 at device 0.0 on pci3 bge0: APE FW version: NCSI v1.0.80.0 bge0: CHIP ID 0x05719001; ASIC REV 0x5719; CHIP REV 0x57190; PCI-E miibus0: on bge0 brgphy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-aster, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, auto, auto-flow bge0: Ethernet address: 2c:76:8a:54:08:14 pci0:3:0:1: failed to read VPD data. bge1: mem 0xf6bc0000-0xf6bcffff0xf6bb0000-0xf6bbffff,0xf6ba0000-0xf6baffff irq 36 at device 0.1 on pci3 bge1: APE FW version: NCSI v1.0.80.0 bge1: CHIP ID 0x05719001; ASIC REV 0x5719; CHIP REV 0x57190; PCI-E miibus1: on bge1 brgphy1: PHY 2 on miibus1 brgphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-aster, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, auto, auto-flow bge1: Ethernet address: 2c:76:8a:54:08:15 pci0:3:0:2: failed to read VPD data. bge2: mem 0xf6b90000-0xf6b9ffff0xf6b80000-0xf6b8ffff,0xf6b70000-0xf6b7ffff irq 32 at device 0.2 on pci3 bge2: APE FW version: NCSI v1.0.80.0 bge2: CHIP ID 0x05719001; ASIC REV 0x5719; CHIP REV 0x57190; PCI-E miibus2: on bge2 brgphy2: PHY 3 on miibus2 brgphy2: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-aster, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, auto, auto-flow bge2: Ethernet address: 2c:76:8a:54:08:16 pci0:3:0:3: failed to read VPD data. bge3: mem 0xf6b60000-0xf6b6ffff0xf6b50000-0xf6b5ffff,0xf6b40000-0xf6b4ffff irq 36 at device 0.3 on pci3 bge3: APE FW version: NCSI v1.0.80.0 bge3: CHIP ID 0x05719001; ASIC REV 0x5719; CHIP REV 0x57190; PCI-E miibus3: on bge3 brgphy3: PHY 4 on miibus3 brgphy3: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-aster, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, auto, auto-flow bge3: Ethernet address: 2c:76:8a:54:08:17 Regards, -- Anders. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 16:52:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38451065670 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9156F8FC1D for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:52:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id un3so2825437obb.13 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:52:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=JAbKKHv92mK6OB+VaCPQm05juYP0dSp1AY9664wzLEU=; b=WaGu1v9pUV52CQWyXruo/qVevDHeIPif5hMbDAVvSMQ775jLrS5okOulnFyZ7jc5ri KeHuZCWvdAr59m9t8PHcUHXYnjstILjlx5vSn8qeb6lbqw3d/8NG/7xBkrUGOt+ZYZgd KReiBQTneDj3UStfoADulNYK+p1YMhL7pS9ugMeamvjSjxp2ML8onR3knk93mwilx+Sm bCVZUlLVFPkdluXKZSbNFaG3HUup+dSoVQ9I75FlJNpWNQlDXU5ALTuP2KemznSoinSj iwaszhW7Mi9zujzt09nSmZG6uVxsTpNJY3ZsHPHaiXb/lNbXewRbtxr/W1/7vETPi/NZ xE2w== Received: by 10.60.172.115 with SMTP id bb19mr1643623oec.94.1345740734232; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:52:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.30.101.53] ([209.117.142.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m3sm5178784oea.1.2012.08.23.09.52.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Warner Losh Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:52:08 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <7AAC8FC8-886B-4687-8A2F-39E96A9E4E74@bsdimp.com> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <5036497F.7020501@icarz.com> To: Dennis Glatting X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmpn1trmMyu4G5vs7YbP8IS+jOfOfD4xjMjkZSQzl2CaL1ctfQEq/Bw6rJ1abW8v3JKTPs/ Cc: kmenzel@whisolutions.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:52:14 -0000 On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Dennis Glatting wrote: > If CVS is fading then I need to move my CVS mirrors to SVN mirrors. CVS is fading. Migrate to svn. Warner From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 18:00:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D3E1065672 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:00:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kenfreebsd@icarz.com) Received: from deanna.icarz.com (deanna.icarz.com [207.99.22.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B9E8FC1F for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:00:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.10.31.177] ([10.10.31.177]) (authenticated bits=0) by deanna.icarz.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q7NI09aO062441 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:00:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kenfreebsd@icarz.com) Message-ID: <50366FA9.30007@icarz.com> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:00:09 -0400 From: Ken Menzel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <5036497F.7020501@icarz.com> <1345736581.27688.403.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> In-Reply-To: <1345736581.27688.403.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 207.99.22.19 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kmenzel@whisolutions.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:00:11 -0000 On 8/23/2012 11:43 AM, Ian Lepore wrote: > On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 11:17 -0400, Ken Menzel wrote: >> >> I found two good primers: >> http://mebsd.com/configure-freebsd-servers/update-freebsd-source-tree-using-subversion-svn.html >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/committers-guide/article.html#SUBVERSION-PRIMER >> >> The second primer in the committer handbook seems to indicate that it >> is difficult to run an SVN mirror. This appears to me to be the >> biggest drawback. I have been using CVS and perforce for years, but >> subversion is new to me. > > It may be difficult to run an svn mirror that allows you to commit > locally and get those changes back to the project, but running a > read-only mirror is trivial. The script I run nightly from cron to sync > my local mirror is: > > #!/bin/sh > # > # svnsync to pull in changes from FreeBSD to my local mirror. > # > svnsync sync file:///local/vc/svn/base > > I can't remember how I initially created and populated the mirror, but > it's likely I grabbed a snapshot of the mirror at work and brought it > home on a thumb drive (just to avoid initial network DL time). > > -- Ian Thanks Ian, The shame of it is I just setup a new read-only mirror on CVS about a month ago! The initial download did take quite awhile. I hope some doc committers can add this information to a wiki or update the committer handbook to reflect the Read only options. In the mean time I found some articles that may help others: http://csoft.net/docs/svnsync.html.en http://www.kirkdesigns.co.uk/mirror-svn-repository-svnsync http://blog.notreally.org/2006/11/30/setting-up-a-subversion-mirror-repository-using-svnsync/ http://blogs.collab.net/subversion/2007/08/mirroring-repos/ http://wordaligned.org/articles/how-to-mirror-a-subversion-repository Ken From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 18:23:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3116E106564A for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:23:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (m209-73.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.209.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2D18FC14 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:23:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7NIN4Yt019991; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 11:23:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q7NIN3ED019990; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 11:23:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 11:23:03 -0700 From: David Wolfskill To: Dennis Glatting Message-ID: <20120823182303.GK1537@albert.catwhisker.org> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <5036497F.7020501@icarz.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="I4VOKWutKNZEOIPu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:23:11 -0000 --I4VOKWutKNZEOIPu Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="bX/mw5riLlTkt+Gv" Content-Disposition: inline --bX/mw5riLlTkt+Gv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 09:13:33AM -0700, Dennis Glatting wrote: > ...=20 > > The second primer in the committer handbook seems to indicate that it is > > difficult to run an SVN mirror. This appears to me to be the biggest > > drawback. I have been using CVS and perforce for years, but subversion > > is new to me. > > >=20 > Thanks. >=20 > I have several cases where I cannot have machines going to the Internet t= o=20 > update for various reasons, including WAN loading and policies, but I can= =20 > have them hit local mirrors. I have three sites: > ... I asked Dennis if a description of how I handle my private read-only SVN mirrors might help, and his reaction was positive, so.... First: here's what I'm trying (and succeeding, AFAICT) to accomplish: * I have a "build" machine at home, where I currently track stable/8, stable/9, and head (on different slices) on a daily basis. I also update the installed ports on that machine daily. Periodically (by default, weekly), I also install the "Sunday" snapshot of stable/8 on my 2 "production" machines (and update their installed ports). [I expect to switch these machines to stable/9 soon. The build machine has already been building stable/9 kerenls for them. Shortly after that switch, I expect to stop tracking stable/8.] Separate from the above, I also track stable/8, stable/9, and head on a daily basis on my laptop; I also update its installed ports on a daily basis. One of the reasons I do this is to gain actual experience with the code I'm expecting to install on the "production" machines: the build machine is used only for that, and when its job is done for the day, I power it off. Since the laptop spends some of the time it may be building FreeBSD or ports disconnected from a network (e.g., while I'm commuting to work), I prefer to just keep a local mirror of the SVN repo on my laptop. * So, I started with one of the recent "seed" repositories in each case, and have my build machine (freebeast.catwhisker.org) use svnsync to re-sync its local mirror with the repo on svn.freebsd.org. * As somewhat of a relic of my experiences doing this with CVS mirrors, I perform the re-sync in 2 stages overnight. After the 2nd one, I update the local /usr/ports hierarchy (which used to be a CVS working direwctory, and is now an SVN working copy). The timing is intended so that during the daytime, my local mirror is "stable": if I were to check out (say) head from that mirror at 5AM, noon, 6PM, and 10PM, I would get the same result each time (even if I didn't specify a GRN). * As another relic of doing something similar with CVSup, I use the login "cvsupin" to actually do this work. * Somewhere, I acquired the perception that if, after setting up the SVN mirror on freebeast, if I were to try to also use svnsync on my laptop, that effort would end up talking back to svn.freebsd.org -- which is NOT what I want, for 2 reasons: * I want to keep my mirrors in sync with one another, so I have reasonable assurance that (kernel configs and other local provisioning aside) I'm running the same code on my laptop that I would be running on the others. * I am also trying to avoid using more sv,freebsd.org resources tyhan necessary. Therefore, for re-syncing the SVN mirrors on my latop, I use rsync(1). As a bit of an implementation detail, I consign my repositories to separate file systems, and I have symlinks with names that depict the function pointing to appropriate places in the file system -- e.g.: d134(9.1-P)[13] df /repo Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ada0s4f 40622796 22955728 14417246 61% /repo d134(9.1-P)[14] ls -F /repo cvs/ svn/ d134(9.1-P)[15] ls -F /repo/* /repo/cvs: local/ /repo/svn: freebsd/ local/ d134(9.1-P)[16] ls -lT /{cvs,svn} lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Sep 27 08:49:09 2010 /cvs -> /repo/cvs lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Sep 27 08:49:09 2010 /svn -> /repo/svn d134(9.1-P)[17] ls -F /svn/freebsd doc/ ports/ src/ d134(9.1-P)[18]=20 I have attached a copy of the script I use to do this. It isn't really set up for more general consumption -- it hard-codes the name of my build machine, for example. Here are some sample entries from /etc/crontab. First, for the build machine: # Local additions 30 01 * * * cvsupin /usr/local/etc/svn-repo -f 30 03 * * * cvsupin /usr/local/etc/svn-repo -f -w= /usr/ports And from my laptop: # Local additions 40 01 * * * cvsupin /usr/local/etc/svn-repo -l 40 03 * * * cvsupin /usr/local/etc/svn-repo -l = -w /usr/ports # Copied from freebeast, for when I'm on the road.... # 30 01 * * * cvsupin /usr/local/etc/svn-repo -f # 30 03 * * * cvsupin /usr/local/etc/svn-repo -f = -w /usr/ports One other thing: I rather like to have the logs from the svnsync handy, so the script copies those, to. There's a bit of sleight-of-hand involved, as the user cvsupin can't create files in /var/log, and I still want the log files there. PS: Yes, I also rotate the svnsync log files. Sample entry from /etc/newsyslog.conf: /var/log/svnsync.log cvsupin: 644 12 * $M1D0 JC Please feel free to make use of the ideas -- or even the code. Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --bX/mw5riLlTkt+Gv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="svn-repo.2jnuJ1" #! /bin/sh set -e t_mode="" mode="" LOGFILE="svnsync.log" RSYNC="/usr/local/bin/rsync" RSYNC_SVN_ARGS="-aHAX" RSYNC_SVN_SOURCE="rsync://freebeast/svn/freebsd" RSYNC_SVN_TARGET="/svn/" RSYNC_LOG_ARGS="-ptgoAX" RSYNC_LOG_SOURCE="rsync://freebeast/svn_log/svnsync.log" TMP_DIR="/tmp" LOG_DIR="/var/log" REPO_BASE="file:///svn/freebsd/" REPO_LIST="src:src/base ports:ports doc:doc" SVNSYNC="/usr/local/bin/svnsync" SVN="/usr/local/bin/svn" WORKING_COPIES="" while getopts "flTw:" arg; do case ${arg} in f) mode="freebsd"; continue;; l) mode="local"; continue;; T) t_mode="echo "; continue;; w) WORKING_COPIES="$OPTARG"; continue;; ?) echo "Usage: $0 -{f|l} [-T] [-w working_copy...]" >&2; exit 2;; esac done if [ -n "$t_mode" ]; then LOG_DIR="/dev" LOGFILE="tty" fi if [ -z "$mode" ]; then echo "$0: Need to specify -l (for rsync from local machine) or -f (for svnsync from svn.freebsd.org)" >&2 exit 1; fi if [ "$mode" = "local" ]; then cmd="$t_mode $RSYNC $RSYNC_SVN_ARGS $RSYNC_SVN_SOURCE $RSYNC_SVN_TARGET" logit='$t_mode $RSYNC $RSYNC_LOG_ARGS $RSYNC_LOG_SOURCE $TMP_DIR && \ $t_mode /bin/cp -p $TMP_DIR/$LOGFILE $LOG_DIR && \ $t_mode /bin/rm $TMP_DIR/$LOGFILE' elif [ "$mode" = "freebsd" ]; then cmd="$t_mode $SVNSYNC sync --non-interactive \$REPO >>$LOG_DIR/$LOGFILE 2>&1" logit='$t_mode echo "svnsync for $NAME ended at `date` exit status $?" >>$LOG_DIR/$LOGFILE' else echo "$0: Logic error; mode => $mode; not recognized" >&2 exit 3 fi log_init="$t_mode echo 'svnsync started at `date`' >>$LOG_DIR/$LOGFILE" status=-1 eval "$log_init" until [ $status -eq 0 ]; do if [ "$mode" = "local" ]; then eval "$cmd" status="$?" eval "$logit" else for ITEM in $REPO_LIST; do NAME=$( echo $ITEM | sed -e 's/:.*$//' ) SUFFIX=$( echo $ITEM | sed -e 's/^.*://' ) REPO="${REPO_BASE}${SUFFIX}" eval "$cmd" status="$?" eval "$logit" done fi done for dir in $WORKING_COPIES; do cmd="$SVN update $dir >/var/tmp/"$(basename $dir)"_update 2>&1" $t_mode eval "$cmd" done exit $? --bX/mw5riLlTkt+Gv-- --I4VOKWutKNZEOIPu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlA2dQcACgkQmprOCmdXAD3mlQCfXBvk/rQvTwntngI0whZKARkN BQ8An1uHTxXtYQAWfJpTrgF/YYtYo/Vj =5+yu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --I4VOKWutKNZEOIPu-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 18:25:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E95106564A for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:25:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2DB98FC14 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:25:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T4c5Y-0006e1-2x for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 20:25:04 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 20:25:04 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 20:25:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 17:37:04 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:25:11 -0000 On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:46 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: > The first release candidate of the 9.1-RELEASE release cycle is now > available on the FTP servers for amd64, i386, and powerpc64. The > MD5/SHA256 checksums are at the bottom of this message. The ISO images > and, for architectures that support it, the memory stick images are > available here: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/9.1/ > > (or any of the FreeBSD mirror sites). I have just upgraded (an x86_64 VM) from 9.0-RELEASE to 9.1-RC1, using freebsd-update. Very smooth, and no apparent hitches at all. Thanks to all concerned, and well done. One thing (welcome, but puzzling) which surprised me was that my vboxguest.ko did *not* need to be recompiled. How did the upgrade manage that? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 19:41:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B2610656D5 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:41:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4D28FC1B for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:41:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lage12 with SMTP id e12so812041lag.13 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:41:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wemm.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=+Off46p4eB7bQvEHB27DyO7bY+fpBF1PpF8AT0fVtqw=; b=lOAdK/TI6wYsmmuNy1QlQCR4bXqt55marnXEAlHdsYMRWaEeUhuuZArCgvtFKQH8BV SofDu+lzpMSQFgjRxerOU7V4bJennqegNXWVrvgHGovpuIy26AUKTEMBYw6ckSBeAktl FubaebS4s5YWWvVPPzRrIC7R6xkFk++61ah6Y= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=+Off46p4eB7bQvEHB27DyO7bY+fpBF1PpF8AT0fVtqw=; b=dk2E50Kq9xTy5BxUOoeJe9lXMYAW52lHnxDQl2Od/y1hnRGcMF8AOlpRs0OMFx7erU lJXoEzzrw1LGvtdAn8DIDKZxB9MyXsIelE+0csiBxrS2lJT9f4h+dy6+QGbl+kFdygWd vAW0mYjSz0fqvW0CNwEnYahmFzCHQfz1nHqjDrl5yh0wSimtlIKi2Q94O0hiv0l1+y5q oBXEzCPARb5sUfnT+hGOy21T/0fFbK+5t6ZYZVN7AhZE7kzdVFPV6RTQo9muOzpshoRX 5MZxUvZWCidfUWMmc+httifyrR8jlnO4271Qk7wed6smSdqNqtODYW8PRndPJXcl7MkH QBLw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.46.209 with SMTP id x17mr2826370lam.38.1345750863980; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.77.33 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:41:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:41:03 -0700 Message-ID: From: Peter Wemm To: Ken Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkRByVah27WUQoqvmbVOpmdhwujUGBzQXTQ9aMCrvwwEQVa9SiaE8zHGwRI0OOA16QyRAXK Cc: freebsd-stable , re , Ian Smith Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:41:05 -0000 On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Ken Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 23:12 +1000, Ian Smith wrote: >> On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:46 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: >> >> > With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has been >> > decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So >> > csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to 9.1-RC1. >> > If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1. >> >> Assuming the stupid question is the one you didn't ask, just to clarify: >> does this mean that c*sup won't work with these RCs in particular, or >> that CVS is dead and SVN becomes mandatory from 9.1-RELEASE? >> >> cheers, Ian >> > > The latter. If you are not using FreeBSD-Update to handle the updates > of a machine you'll need to update your source tree using SVN for > release branches (releng/*) from now on. Updates of the CVS repository > will continue for the existing stable/* and head for now. I don't think > anything has been decided on when that will stop. A couple of quick comments: * RELENG_9 is still alive and will continue for the forseeable future. You can track 9-STABLE via cvs/cvsup. * This was an accident, not something that we'd planned on to doing. cvs is just something we mostly don't think about anymore for src. The switch was thrown around 4 years ago now, back in 2008. It's 2012 now. * releases (isos, ftp.freebsd.org, etc) have been build from svn since 9.0. All the embedded $FreeBSD$ strings etc are svn-style. If you tried to check out from RELENG_9_0 or RELENG_9_1 (which is missing) from cvs and do a build, the binaries *DO NOT MATCH* the official binaries. What's happening here is that there's no "RELENG_9_1_0_RELEASE" tag in cvs. * Don't expect to see any 10.0-alpha/beta/rc/release/stable to *ever* make it to an official cvs tree. It's probably time to move a freebsd-ified cvs from head to ports. * RIght now you can mirror svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/{stable/9,release/9.1*,etc} to your laptop, and Simon is setting up a US-east coast and US-west coast mirror. You can easily switch your mirrors on the fly if there's a closer/faster one. * We have some "seed" tarballs of recently synced repo images around somewhere. I'll see where they're available. But in a nutshell, you do this: /home/peter/svnsync$ fetch svnmirror-base-r123456.txz /home/peter/svnsync$ tar xf svnmirror-base-r123456.txz /home/peter/svnsync$ svnsync file:///home/peter/svnsync/base and run that from cron with a lock file, probably with "-q" for quiet. Then you can have a local copy of the repo for offline use. It has the same repo uuid so you can svn switch/relocate at will. I personally on my laptop. You can do your own personal svnsync all the way from rev 0, but it takes some time. It's more time efficient to start with a seed and let it catch up. -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 "If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution." -- Robert Sewell From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 20:55:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D437106567A; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 20:55:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (bigknife-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:75::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA248FC19; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 20:55:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (unknown [209.249.190.124]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 39246B96E; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:55:00 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:06:18 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-CBSD-20110714-p17; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201208231606.18346.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:55:00 -0400 (EDT) Cc: re , Ken Smith , Peter Wemm , Ian Smith Subject: Removing CVS from base X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 20:55:01 -0000 On Thursday, August 23, 2012 3:41:03 pm Peter Wemm wrote: > * Don't expect to see any 10.0-alpha/beta/rc/release/stable to *ever* > make it to an official cvs tree. It's probably time to move a > freebsd-ified cvs from head to ports. I think this is a bit premature. Just because we are moving away from using CVS as FreeBSD's scm doesn't mean CVS isn't a useful general-purpose tool still. For smaller repositories that don't need fancier things like branches, CVS is quite useful and far lighter weight. I could see moving csup out to ports, but not necessarily CVS. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 21:44:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE7A106566B for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:44:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryan@shatow.net) Received: from secure.xzibition.com (secure.xzibition.com [173.160.118.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2FD8FC17 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:44:39 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=shatow.net; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=sweb; b=u4Rs7p 8Qxcj82MVn3JbErJE3v+24O0VUo6hmUK4WdR/c3Z63BzD1dXITmi/HGSbc+2eBiP PLMiYAmBoCCMeKdcfHO39MmUYJBs3Qp2U7vAD8dN04e2YTbAt65yHtuKkzU1oH8+ NVZpRfWFSjboYj6doLu2C++fCctblaCEbU+hA= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=shatow.net; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=sweb; bh=nKoqoIfpBRPn V0A1uX+A4WEeS+0mz2VcHae2kFDKseM=; b=pJ/gIdcScvL/czw1i1zZiHieJ6ZS kFkOlJ5GxsNAom5EqZdoGGRzU1ppBvnTkM1tKLemsYIRpTzar2uhTGycQxCzS2uH L88nCtpM9ixzG3yRp8i59WmWuhB0ph35bFfUjzQEOgJeSwmdutEma9vSGWhPYVff 6UDHPpU18WvIGFg= Received: (qmail 11670 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2012 16:44:37 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.74?) (bryan@shatow.net@74.94.87.209) by sweb.xzibition.com with ESMTPA; 23 Aug 2012 16:44:37 -0500 Message-ID: <5036A45A.4030507@shatow.net> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:44:58 -0500 From: Bryan Drewery User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120824002504.L33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <50364E0E.3090205@shatow.net> In-Reply-To: <50364E0E.3090205@shatow.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:44:39 -0000 On 8/23/2012 10:36 AM, Bryan Drewery wrote: > On 8/23/2012 9:28 AM, Ian Smith wrote: >> On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:47:54 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: >> > On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 23:12 +1000, Ian Smith wrote: >> > > On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:46 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: >> > > >> > > > With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has been >> > > > decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So >> > > > csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to 9.1-RC1. >> > > > If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1. >> > > >> > > Assuming the stupid question is the one you didn't ask, just to clarify: >> > > does this mean that c*sup won't work with these RCs in particular, or >> > > that CVS is dead and SVN becomes mandatory from 9.1-RELEASE? >> > > >> > > cheers, Ian >> > > >> > >> > The latter. If you are not using FreeBSD-Update to handle the updates >> > of a machine you'll need to update your source tree using SVN for >> > release branches (releng/*) from now on. Updates of the CVS repository >> > will continue for the existing stable/* and head for now. I don't think >> > anything has been decided on when that will stop. >> >> Thanks Ken. I'm a bit POLAxed; guess I don't read enough lists .. > > I'm a bit surprised too. Shouldn't this mean svn should be in base? If > not, should csup come OUT of base? > I rethought this. Ignore me. Bryan From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 22:00:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7167F106566B; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:00:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from emx.nitro.dk (leto.nitro.dk [178.63.52.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24CF38FC08; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:00:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailscan.leto.nitro.dk (mailscan.leto.nitro.dk [127.0.1.4]) by emx.nitro.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA39D2BAC8D; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:00:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emx.nitro.dk ([127.0.1.2]) by mailscan.leto.nitro.dk (mailscan.leto.nitro.dk [127.0.1.4]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id f2FxrKWZAO8g; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:00:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.4.24] (unknown [89.100.2.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by emx.nitro.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 387EC2BAC4D; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:52:35 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: "Simon L. B. Nielsen" In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:52:36 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3E419978-37B5-434B-BB54-A4C069A9A887@FreeBSD.org> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> To: Peter Wemm X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) Cc: re , freebsd-stable , Ian Smith , Ken Smith Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:00:51 -0000 On 23 Aug 2012, at 20:41, Peter Wemm wrote: >>> On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:46 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: >>>=20 >>>> With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has = been >>>> decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So >>>> csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to = 9.1-RC1. >>>> If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1. > * RIght now you can mirror > svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/{stable/9,release/9.1*,etc} to your laptop, > and Simon is setting up a US-east coast and US-west coast mirror. You > can easily switch your mirrors on the fly if there's a closer/faster > one. Real world got in the way, but they should be ready by Friday or = Saturday, and will be documented in the Handbook. On a side note, the svn part of one mirror had to be re-created a few = days ago as svnsync gets very unhappy if you pull the power while it's = running (we had a PSU die). There seem to be a fair chance your local = repository gets corrupted enough in that case that svn just gives up. = Not that it's a big problem, but is a bit annoying. We (clusteradm) are working on getting an EU mirror up, but no timeframe = yet. > You can do your own personal svnsync all the way from rev 0, but it > takes some time. It's more time efficient to start with a seed and > let it catch up. And if people are wondering, some time is really some time. The original = ports mirror took ~24h to create - and that was over the LAN. Don't do = that yourself unless you feel like doing a latency test of your internet = connection :-). --=20 Simon L. B. Nielsen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 22:04:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0670106564A; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:04:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from vps.rulingia.com (host-122-100-2-194.octopus.com.au [122.100.2.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154EC8FC16; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.rulingia.com (c220-239-249-137.belrs5.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.249.137]) by vps.rulingia.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7NM4Pm0099188 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:04:25 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.rulingia.com (localhost.rulingia.com [127.0.0.1]) by server.rulingia.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7NM4KQj086106 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:04:20 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.rulingia.com) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.rulingia.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q7NM4KwA086105; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:04:20 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:04:20 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20120823220420.GA85883@server.rulingia.com> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <201208231606.18346.jhb@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201208231606.18346.jhb@freebsd.org> X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removing CVS from base X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:04:28 -0000 --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2012-Aug-23 16:06:18 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: >On Thursday, August 23, 2012 3:41:03 pm Peter Wemm wrote: >> * Don't expect to see any 10.0-alpha/beta/rc/release/stable to *ever* >> make it to an official cvs tree. It's probably time to move a >> freebsd-ified cvs from head to ports. > >I think this is a bit premature. Just because we are moving away from >using CVS as FreeBSD's scm doesn't mean CVS isn't a useful >general-purpose tool still. For smaller repositories that don't need >fancier things like branches, CVS is quite useful and far lighter weight. To me, this reads like the exact definition of a "ports, not base" use case. CVS (and RCS) are both GPL-licensed tools that (as of 10.x) no longer serve any purpose in the base system. I agree that they still serve a purpose (I use CVS as a SCM both at home and $work) but (IMHO) if they are not needed to support FreeBSD, they are not needed in the FreeBSD base. >I could see moving csup out to ports, but not necessarily CVS. Ideally, csup would learn how to talk to a SVN repository so it can continue to be used to update a local src tree (without needing to install subversion). Failing that, csup should probably also go. --=20 Peter Jeremy --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlA2qOQACgkQ/opHv/APuIf5wwCfdQgvQDbMft7kFOW149v02N08 i2YAnjgHjh3NqISE/Jyu3dxv0SrRbCzl =6VX3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 22:14:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A1A1065670 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1BF8FC17 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbbgg13 with SMTP id gg13so906865lbb.13 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:14:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wemm.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=URKg1ZaGBjFLPXvFZG7rDs7NuDJuC7BA850e5dgZ+Wc=; b=0Q8TzorjfTviMs1tYYynrGfDt0NMaI4NmSikkqQrzQd5TOsSo3I04xGwZ1a0vk20pt eQoeBGTrno4Zh21S1Byn1KApnaEtU244SxDcu1gbeyeBnknamsa1aRBoPVAM+6KzZVPH Mfghtuv37wz08xkL0e3joKH+5eDkpdb1Mpq30= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=URKg1ZaGBjFLPXvFZG7rDs7NuDJuC7BA850e5dgZ+Wc=; b=B0/ylxZV/33FTjWmi2loZu13hs6xHVq1fgkuWYVrfCDob9LYLtzPkWOrg7v+MM9G+7 nfXoG7Sz3UN1Az8yrb5qRG7qx9AxVoYxRwJGMhTP03493Fpp4JU36GUisuuq1kz7lfZI bEm3W+vuhRHLfGth9hph+bKk49rjt008Yg0H28hLb/YirDMZ4gNv8ejaGCgCmKyq2q3f /8MTAMYmw4SfZemc1d4oxJu8osG4fjHFIvWr5rFmgyxhXL1YZHXerLKDH2Fk/Pr9z3/H H9+QKSttqUPR8HW40eEXsK476JykcVjzv9dmZFHcpWwZz3Kd/qteQfB4XzRLn6sYMOKu IoSQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.46.49 with SMTP id s17mr3428081lam.17.1345760066511; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.77.33 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:14:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3E419978-37B5-434B-BB54-A4C069A9A887@FreeBSD.org> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <3E419978-37B5-434B-BB54-A4C069A9A887@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:14:26 -0700 Message-ID: From: Peter Wemm To: "Simon L. B. Nielsen" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl7QLzQTXQ31W4rYkeBDqYttE8PU0zCCDCTAeV801vGck460bKG+Da35TQ70roPOcRuWdWS Cc: re , freebsd-stable , Ian Smith , Ken Smith Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:14:28 -0000 On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Simon L. B. Nielsen wr= ote: > > On 23 Aug 2012, at 20:41, Peter Wemm wrote: >>>> On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:46 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has been >>>>> decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So >>>>> csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to 9.1-RC= 1. >>>>> If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1. >> * RIght now you can mirror >> svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/{stable/9,release/9.1*,etc} to your laptop, >> and Simon is setting up a US-east coast and US-west coast mirror. You >> can easily switch your mirrors on the fly if there's a closer/faster >> one. > > Real world got in the way, but they should be ready by Friday or Saturday= , and will be documented in the Handbook. > > On a side note, the svn part of one mirror had to be re-created a few day= s ago as svnsync gets very unhappy if you pull the power while it's running= (we had a PSU die). There seem to be a fair chance your local repository g= ets corrupted enough in that case that svn just gives up. Not that it's a b= ig problem, but is a bit annoying. > > We (clusteradm) are working on getting an EU mirror up, but no timeframe = yet. > >> You can do your own personal svnsync all the way from rev 0, but it >> takes some time. It's more time efficient to start with a seed and >> let it catch up. > > And if people are wondering, some time is really some time. The original = ports mirror took ~24h to create - and that was over the LAN. Don't do that= yourself unless you feel like doing a latency test of your internet connec= tion :-). You'll also find out very quickly how much fsync(2) hurts on a softdep or su+j system. The svn fsfs backend does a fsync multiple times per revision to guarantee its transaction boundaries. There's a reason why I wrote nofsync.ko for these scenarios. Back when I did the first mirror for making a seed, it was the difference between what was shaping up to take about 12 hours vs what ended up taking 25 minutes with nofsync.ko + noatime + full async + no softdep + no softdep+j. --=20 Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 "If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution." -- Robert Sewell From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 22:42:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A5E106566C for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:42:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014418FC0C for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:42:12 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Cc:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=JQ+fD6OLmc5qrs3oPmZVqMQ7H3rQS3pkK43tYBbu0Ms=; b=RJzEdTRE/TKPIPcJFtlHAuOIhLik4WqYYsIxMg8ihzxjl3xWO5EtqgfNazjRWBHOvBJ0WMqRewa21vw99vc8CaLA9GumgIOgWQ1n2aP1AM1M7cIvW77cOV+HfVdjYFZp; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.80 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1T4g69-000JCY-1y; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 17:42:02 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1345761716-5418-5417/5/4; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:41:56 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 17:41:49 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.01 (Win32) X-SA-Report: ALL_TRUSTED=-1, KHOP_THREADED=-0.5 X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:42:12 -0000 On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:37:04 -0500, Walter Hurry wrote: > One thing (welcome, but puzzling) which surprised me was that my > vboxguest.ko did *not* need to be recompiled. How did the upgrade manage > that? FreeBSD has a stable ABI unlike Linux. A kernel module compiled for any 9.x release should work on any other 9.x release without needing to be recompiled. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 22:54:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199EB106578A for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:54:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56C38FC12 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T4gIG-00013Q-6H for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 00:54:28 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 00:54:28 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 00:54:28 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:54:15 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:54:30 -0000 On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 17:41:49 -0500, Mark Felder wrote: > On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:37:04 -0500, Walter Hurry > wrote: > >> One thing (welcome, but puzzling) which surprised me was that my >> vboxguest.ko did *not* need to be recompiled. How did the upgrade >> manage that? > > FreeBSD has a stable ABI unlike Linux. A kernel module compiled for any > 9.x release should work on any other 9.x release without needing to be > recompiled. Ah right, thanks. I am indeed a refugee fom Linux . From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 23:01:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFDF81065676 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:01:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Received: from smtp.syd.comcen.com.au (smtp.syd.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7308FC1D for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hummer.af.speednet.com.au (115-69-4-237.dyn.comcen.net.au [115.69.4.237]) by smtp.syd.comcen.com.au (8.13.4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id q7NMvQTf041391; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:57:26 +1000 (EST) Received: from snuggles.af.speednet.com.au (snuggles.af.speednet.com.au [172.22.2.2]) by hummer.af.speednet.com.au (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7NMvLKN080202; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:57:21 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Message-ID: <5036B551.3020209@andyit.com.au> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:57:21 +1000 From: Andy Farkas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Wemm References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <3E419978-37B5-434B-BB54-A4C069A9A887@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-comcen-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-comcen-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-comcen-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.897, required 4, AWL 0.60, BAYES_00 -2.60, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-comcen-MailScanner-From: andyf@andyit.com.au Cc: freebsd-stable Subject: SVN seeds [was: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available...] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:01:07 -0000 On 24/08/12 08:14, Peter Wemm wrote: > Back when I did the first mirror for making a seed, ... If you have a complete CVS mirror repo (I'm using cvsup-mirror from ports), can you make your own seeds using cvs2svn to create local read-only SVN repos, then begin using svnsync from the master/mirror SVN servers? I'm looking to avoid downloading what I believe will be large seed files. I guess you'd need to convert src, ports, docs, www as different SVN repos? Are there any docs on how it was done for FreeBSD? -andyf From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 23:11:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69886106564A for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (m209-73.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.209.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE068FC08 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7NNBjdU021788; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:11:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q7NNBjNo021787; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:11:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:11:45 -0700 From: David Wolfskill To: Andy Farkas Message-ID: <20120823231145.GS1537@albert.catwhisker.org> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <3E419978-37B5-434B-BB54-A4C069A9A887@FreeBSD.org> <5036B551.3020209@andyit.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PY8tzLeNxmyMVNR3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5036B551.3020209@andyit.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: SVN seeds [was: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available...] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:11:50 -0000 --PY8tzLeNxmyMVNR3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 08:57:21AM +1000, Andy Farkas wrote: > On 24/08/12 08:14, Peter Wemm wrote: > > Back when I did the first mirror for making a seed, ... >=20 > If you have a complete CVS mirror repo (I'm using cvsup-mirror from ports= ), > can you make your own seeds using cvs2svn to create local read-only SVN > repos, then begin using svnsync from the master/mirror SVN servers? I strongly doubt that this would be useful. (You would need to ensure that the result of your "cvs2svn" run is the same as that which was used for the SVN repo, I believe.) > I'm looking to avoid downloading what I believe will be large seed files. IIRC, the (compressed) seed files are relatively small -- especially the ports seed. > I guess you'd need to convert src, ports, docs, www as different SVN repo= s? There is no "www" repo. src, doc, & ports; each is a separate repo, yes. From : "In svn+ssh://svn.freebsd.org/base, base refers to the source tree. Similarly, ports refers to the ports tree, and so on. These are separate repositories with their own change number sequences, access controls and commit mail." > ... Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --PY8tzLeNxmyMVNR3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlA2uLAACgkQmprOCmdXAD3xJgCfbghYEy4Zibhvu4hkd7Ml8LWW HKAAn22JIGhiLbVsrQl6Sditpj2hMUKm =JLyv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PY8tzLeNxmyMVNR3-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 24 00:25:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA863106566B; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 00:25:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aoyama@peach.ne.jp) Received: from moon.peach.ne.jp (moon.peach.ne.jp [203.141.148.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494D38FC08; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 00:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from moon.peach.ne.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moon.peach.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12CF539D4F; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 09:25:24 +0900 (JST) Received: from artemis (unknown [172.18.0.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by moon.peach.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0EB1D39D4E; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 09:25:24 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <143B56D7A14648EF98B8FE876080D497@ad.peach.ne.jp> From: "Daisuke Aoyama" To: "John Nielsen" References: <02E5BFB9-901B-4AA3-9594-160C3259AE66@jnielsen.net> In-Reply-To: <02E5BFB9-901B-4AA3-9594-160C3259AE66@jnielsen.net> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 09:25:16 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-2022-jp"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Updated isboot 0.2.6 and FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 00:25:31 -0000 Hi, Thank you for reporting. It seems a bug of isboot. Your NIC is link down, but isboot never retry on first connection. Because of this, it failed to find the boot device. I have updated isboot and created 9.1-RC based image. Please try it: http://www.peach.ne.jp/archives/isboot/isboot-0.2.6.tar.gz http://www.peach.ne.jp/archives/isboot/demo/FreeBSD-9.1-RC1-amd64-memstick-isboot-0.2.6.img > I have a few questions for you (or other knowledgeable people on the > list): > 1) Does iBFT require hardware support in the NIC? > 2) Does iBFT require NIC driver support? NO. You can use both iBFT software like gPXE and NIC's rom like Intel iSCSI boot agent. The isboot should work with any NIC supported by FreeBSD. > 3) Is anything required in loader.conf besides isboot_load="YES"? If your NIC driver is within the kernel, you need only isboot_load="YES". > 4) Is it likely to work (better) if I find an em(4) card instead? I have tested with Intel cards/onboard. If you want the maximum performance, I recommend you to use Intel card, but other cards should work with isboot. This is my log of ASRock E350M1/USB3(re(4) + gPXE): ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iSCSI boot driver version 0.2.6 IS: Initiator name: iqn.2000-09.org.etherboot:e350m1 NIC0: IP address: 172.18.0.131 NIC0: Prefix: 16 NIC0: Gateway: 172.18.0.1 NIC0: MAC address: 00:25:22:b3:b7:a7 TGT0: Target IP address: 172.18.0.26 TGT0: Target Port: 3260 TGT0: Target LUN: 0 TGT0: Target name: iqn.2007-09.jp.ne.peach:aria:e350m1-boot Boot NIC: re0 Configure IPv4 by NIC0 (snip) da1 at isboot0 bus 0 scbus8 target 0 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-5 device da1: 300.000MB/s transfers da1: 20480MB (41943040 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2610C) da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus7 target 0 lun 0 da0: < USB Reader 0001> Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: 1882MB (3854336 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 239C) da2 at isboot0 bus 0 scbus8 target 0 lun 1 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-5 device da2: 300.000MB/s transfers da2: 681MB (1395264 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 681C) Boot device: da1 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Timecounter "TSC-low" frequency 12500234 Hz quality 800 GEOM: da0: the primary GPT table is corrupt or invalid. GEOM: da0: using the secondary instead -- recovery strongly advised. GEOM: da2: geometry does not match label (32h,63s != 64h,32s). GEOM: ufsid/5029dbce6b8b4567: geometry does not match label (32h,63s != 64h,32s). GEOM: ufs/FreeBSD_Install: geometry does not match label (32h,63s != 64h,32s). Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/da1p2 [rw]... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks, Daisuke Aoyama From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 24 01:53:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE05106564A; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:53:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FB68FC0C; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:53:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbrp2 with SMTP id rp2so2558726pbb.13 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:53:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:date:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=kY6DIHQaFmng7OhjCTNSb+ijF3HDgGppNbOnF9VH0nY=; b=ZBWryLFZtyx6Dfz3dRfRPSpDYRWHwUOMS4Kul76piMwdgEy93vH3mKj/LlDXu865Nt c3/uVb8SpF7LA1khkoMsRKBqxsUPV3iJP8jgETRwunGxX6dGGboZTa15VcziwCUu35Dv 7JhJBoS6pfCzzwIW1YUrdlwZga1JcX2WKPRnHqc643kKU2Ynz4dI2wyCjTLe5XpzvwB6 8EuoZAavtl5L0sHHMrkjd59OSAy+OFS3Of/rOa8RHqX2JdQ2y4XCrsJtMC8w6egP4CeQ iJSlBc5n5QLnSgURAmgyM0PJDZCS99ChPZHJl+ahOe9m0XrAOG0ovmsJjr8YR2QStf9T 9QwA== Received: by 10.68.239.164 with SMTP id vt4mr8988273pbc.118.1345773179878; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:52:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pyunyh@gmail.com (lpe4.p59-icn.cdngp.net. [114.111.62.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pg9sm7182753pbb.26.2012.08.23.18.52.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pyunyh@gmail.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:52:48 -0700 From: YongHyeon PYUN Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:52:48 -0700 To: Anders Nordby Message-ID: <20120824175248.GB3183@michelle.cdnetworks.com> References: <20120703185704.GA81296@fupp.net> <20120705010136.GA3218@michelle.cdnetworks.com> <20120823161505.GA64558@fupp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120823161505.GA64558@fupp.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bge problems in RELENG_9, bge0: watchdog timeout -- resetting X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pyunyh@gmail.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:53:00 -0000 On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 06:15:05PM +0200, Anders Nordby wrote: > Hi, > > On ons, jul 04, 2012 at 06:01:36pm -0700, YongHyeon PYUN wrote: > > There is a WIP version at the following URL. > > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/bge/if_bge.c > > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/bge/if_bgereg.h > > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/bge/brgphy.c > > > > I have a couple of positive feedbacks but it seems it still has > > some issues. Let me know whether it makes any difference on your > > box. > > I tried these bge source files in 9.1-PRERELEASE this week, and it does > not help. If I try to log in with SSH I get: > > Aug 23 17:30:32 login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyu0 > bge0: watchdog timeout -- resetting > Aug 23 17:31:31 kernel: bge0: watchdog timeout -- resetting > Aug 23 17:31:31 kernel: bge0: link state changed to DOWN > Aug 23 17:31:35 kernel: bge0: link state changed to UP > bge0: watchdog timeout -- resetting > Aug 23 17:33:24 kernel: bge0: watchdog timeout -- resetting > Aug 23 17:33:24 kernel: bge0: link state changed to DOWN > Aug 23 17:33:28 kernel: bge0: link state changed to UP > > I tried setting hw.bge.allow_asf to 0, but it did not help. The loader tunable has no effect for controllers with APE(Application Processor Engine). > > During boot I get: > > pcib3: at device 2.0 on pci0 > pci3: on pcib3 > pci0:3:0:0: failed to read VPD data. > bge0: mem > 0xf6bf0000-0xf6bfffff0xf6be0000-0xf6beffff,0xf6bd0000-0xf6bdffff irq 32 > at device 0.0 on pci3 > bge0: APE FW version: NCSI v1.0.80.0 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ It seems your APE runs slightly newer NC-SI firmware. I was able to reproduce watchdog timeouts on Dell R820 but I'm not sure you're also seeing the same issue here. Due to unknown reason, it seems programming RX MTU register has no effect with BCM5720 on R820. Receiving frames larger than 175(?) bytes seem to hang the controller on R820. Current workaround for the issue is to set the MTU of sender(i.e. link partner or switch) to some low value, 128 for example. That would show poor performance but shall make your controller work. I asked help to Broadcom and waiting for answers/hint from Broadcom. > bge0: CHIP ID 0x05719001; ASIC REV 0x5719; CHIP REV 0x57190; PCI-E > miibus0: on bge0 > brgphy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 > brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, > 1000baseT-aster, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, auto, auto-flow > bge0: Ethernet address: 2c:76:8a:54:08:14 > pci0:3:0:1: failed to read VPD data. > bge1: mem > 0xf6bc0000-0xf6bcffff0xf6bb0000-0xf6bbffff,0xf6ba0000-0xf6baffff irq 36 > at device 0.1 on pci3 > bge1: APE FW version: NCSI v1.0.80.0 > bge1: CHIP ID 0x05719001; ASIC REV 0x5719; CHIP REV 0x57190; PCI-E > miibus1: on bge1 > brgphy1: PHY 2 on miibus1 > brgphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, > 1000baseT-aster, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, auto, auto-flow > bge1: Ethernet address: 2c:76:8a:54:08:15 > pci0:3:0:2: failed to read VPD data. > bge2: mem > 0xf6b90000-0xf6b9ffff0xf6b80000-0xf6b8ffff,0xf6b70000-0xf6b7ffff irq 32 > at device 0.2 on pci3 > bge2: APE FW version: NCSI v1.0.80.0 > bge2: CHIP ID 0x05719001; ASIC REV 0x5719; CHIP REV 0x57190; PCI-E > miibus2: on bge2 > brgphy2: PHY 3 on miibus2 > brgphy2: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, > 1000baseT-aster, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, auto, auto-flow > bge2: Ethernet address: 2c:76:8a:54:08:16 > pci0:3:0:3: failed to read VPD data. > bge3: mem > 0xf6b60000-0xf6b6ffff0xf6b50000-0xf6b5ffff,0xf6b40000-0xf6b4ffff irq 36 > at device 0.3 on pci3 > bge3: APE FW version: NCSI v1.0.80.0 > bge3: CHIP ID 0x05719001; ASIC REV 0x5719; CHIP REV 0x57190; PCI-E > miibus3: on bge3 > brgphy3: PHY 4 on miibus3 > brgphy3: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, > 1000baseT-aster, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, auto, auto-flow > bge3: Ethernet address: 2c:76:8a:54:08:17 > > Regards, > > -- > Anders. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 24 03:06:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AFF1106564A for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 03:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp1.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF49D8FC0C for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 03:06:30 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=4X4phkhoFnpgk3UdFDJrQdHqK5PA6Vt9Q3utMayJ2dE= c=1 sm=0 a=eZe-6s-vrH0A:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=7XNKPBmbnUwA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=-tYrlUW5qGMn0TQjpbMA:9 a=AcdsImxJPJ9Yo6Ye3TGm+Q==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp01.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.34.76 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.34.76] ([74.134.34.76:51903] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 62/F6-04060-FAFE6305; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:06:24 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:06:23 -0400 Message-ID: <62.F6.04060.FAFE6305@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: Ken Smith Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 03:06:31 -0000 Excerpt from announcement by Ken Smith : > With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has been > decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So > csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to 9.1-RC1. > If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1. I read your message and followup messages and have questions about how to switch from csup to svn. System source is in /usr/src obtained by csup, apparently now being deprecated. Do I need to delete (rm -R /usr/src/*) before running svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 /usr/src I don't want an out-of-sync mess resulting from mixing two versions, assume that wouldn't work well. I guess I need to switch the doc (/usr/doc) also to svn. What about the ports? Would I need to switch the ports tree from "portsnap fetch update", or is portsnap still the proper way? Tom From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 24 05:18:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA46106566B for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:18:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from mail.zoral.com.ua (mx0.zoral.com.ua [91.193.166.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EF98FC0A for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q7O5IMAx049447; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:18:22 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7O5I90m021771; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:18:09 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: (from kostik@localhost) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q7O5I9ge021770; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:18:09 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:18:09 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Mark Felder Message-ID: <20120824051809.GP33100@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mvWwdhJHqQXOQ5Pq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Walter Hurry Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:18:35 -0000 --mvWwdhJHqQXOQ5Pq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 05:41:49PM -0500, Mark Felder wrote: > On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:37:04 -0500, Walter Hurry = =20 > wrote: >=20 > >One thing (welcome, but puzzling) which surprised me was that my > >vboxguest.ko did *not* need to be recompiled. How did the upgrade manage > >that? >=20 > FreeBSD has a stable ABI unlike Linux. A kernel module compiled for any = =20 > 9.x release should work on any other 9.x release without needing to be = =20 > recompiled. This is a statement that is false at least two times, if not three. This was a question about Kernel Binary Inteface, not Application Binary Interface. First, we have zero guarantees about ability to load or have a system survive loading of the module compiled against the later kernel. Second, we do not have real KBI definition, and KBI stability is managed only ad-hock. E.g. VFS quite often breaks, while network or disk controllers drivers are usually fine. YMMV. Snobby false statements hurt the project. --mvWwdhJHqQXOQ5Pq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlA3DpEACgkQC3+MBN1Mb4gr6QCfVriy3QU9AKUjrzmU2Y08M+0v 454An0j5/2E98aW69Uh6zgmdkq575VJV =p8LN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mvWwdhJHqQXOQ5Pq-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 24 05:42:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52ACC106566B for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:42:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: from mail-qa0-f54.google.com (mail-qa0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071AA8FC0A for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:42:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qatn12 with SMTP id n12so317947qat.13 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:42:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=/kWR6s0cMKvD4Z0msZpSf+08mWATN/XAaK/jNAfhgIg=; b=cYQSEfYRGowgjUPqEc3m/clTAHkVfVJ44tLNDcYkjJPt+blzFqg1srSvT9JGW62O/b YKjhFD19QEgcjU3FXcZitBP5KTcPaZHJ6UiMBJpS1SyBpixAQ3GiBWviBkcUf5ayUiVy MCOQE7qbLEGWF7RKmSvx4YomDxevRi/g6MI5VnoqnuJudkcgpPBxX2NBzH7wHGfpBVHV eJqVKRYUrSz2QZ67kzQJS63TcthHUGDkdW9gljX1jqYCK/pxU6tHRMf79Mq7XIxcYYu3 q9YTBeVHzSy1zMxC5cLo/lZJUAZxJl7Kzq2CpA7lsKv9guVBk7D8bTXzPYidSOzapZ19 00sw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.176.195 with SMTP id bf3mr6920508qab.55.1345786923938; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:42:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.72.163 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:42:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [66.93.34.235] Received: by 10.49.72.163 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:42:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:42:03 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Brian W." To: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlXtLaoMqJ+xU+NjuLn23Be0c806CONo9N4kdz/BYNcbdfzz+y29KbROiPO4k0RZ1fuZMTs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: 9.1 rc1 on virtualbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:42:05 -0000 I have tried three times to install it as above and each time, after selecting all the software choices, it gets to 97% of the first row 22% overall and just stops. 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[195.222.84.203]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id el6sm2841564wib.8.2012.08.24.00.03.24 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 24 Aug 2012 00:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:04:37 +0300 From: "Sergey V. Dyatko" To: Dennis Glatting Message-ID: <20120824100437.6253e2d2@laptop> In-Reply-To: References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <1345731905.41423.6.camel@btw.pki2.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:03:33 -0000 On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Dennis Glatting wrote: > > > On Thu, 23 Aug 2012, Trond Endrest?l wrote: > > > On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 07:25-0700, Dennis Glatting wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 09:47 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 23:12 +1000, Ian Smith wrote: > >>>> On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:46 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it > >>>> > has been decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity > >>>> > to CVS. So csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for > >>>> > updating to 9.1-RC1. If you would like to use SVN the branch > >>>> > to use is releng/9.1. > >>>> > >>>> Assuming the stupid question is the one you didn't ask, just to > >>>> clarify: does this mean that c*sup won't work with these RCs in > >>>> particular, or that CVS is dead and SVN becomes mandatory from > >>>> 9.1-RELEASE? > >>>> > >>>> cheers, Ian > >>>> > >>> > >>> The latter. If you are not using FreeBSD-Update to handle the > >>> updates of a machine you'll need to update your source tree using > >>> SVN for release branches (releng/*) from now on. Updates of the > >>> CVS repository will continue for the existing stable/* and head > >>> for now. I don't think anything has been decided on when that > >>> will stop. > >>> > >> > >> Looking in the handbook ([1]) I do not see the mechanics of how to > >> set up a mirror, of which I have three CVS mirrors in different > >> infrastructures. Is there a web page somewhere on how to set up, > >> synchronize, maintain, and use a local mirror? > >> > >> [1] > >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading.html > > > > How about this one? > > > > http://motoyuki.bsdclub.org/BSD/cvsup.html > > > > I have CVS mirrors. The topic is SVN. > for src: 1. fetch tar.xz from ${mirror}/pub/FreeBSD/development/subversion/svnmirror-base-r238500.tar.xz 2. tar xf svnmirror-base-r238500.tar.xz 3.svnsync sync file:///path/to/local/repo/base/ _______________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- wbr, tiger From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 24 07:55:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B354E1065674 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:55:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from mail.zoral.com.ua (mx0.zoral.com.ua [91.193.166.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF5F8FC08 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q7O7tX2e060091; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:55:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7O7tKnD022382; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:55:20 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: (from kostik@localhost) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q7O7tJWs022381; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:55:19 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:55:19 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Peter Wemm Message-ID: <20120824075519.GS33100@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TvNyW/zmhQDwPqM/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua Cc: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:55:26 -0000 --TvNyW/zmhQDwPqM/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:41:03PM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > * We have some "seed" tarballs of recently synced repo images around > somewhere. I'll see where they're available. But in a nutshell, you > do this: > /home/peter/svnsync$ fetch svnmirror-base-r123456.txz > /home/peter/svnsync$ tar xf svnmirror-base-r123456.txz > /home/peter/svnsync$ svnsync file:///home/peter/svnsync/base > and run that from cron with a lock file, probably with "-q" for quiet. > Then you can have a local copy of the repo for offline use. It has > the same repo uuid so you can svn switch/relocate at will. I > personally on my laptop. Why do you recommend lock file ? svnsync locks the repository on its own, AFAIR. More, the lock is quite sticky, so died svnsync usualy require manual intervention to allow other syncsync jobs to process. Is there something I am not aware of that requires lock file ? --TvNyW/zmhQDwPqM/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlA3M2cACgkQC3+MBN1Mb4iNIwCfb5tHZYdbokjbL9OIrkTfNXFI zNEAoK0FyH464nZvmTy5kCBHDhs+e99k =5duR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TvNyW/zmhQDwPqM/-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 24 13:22:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F853106566B for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:22:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCAA78FC08 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:22:30 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:Content-Type; bh=DNvq3OnYgxITAm7+2S/YKzoPa8QSO48KKkfrHBNWSyQ=; b=hm6dkJnH9q9EbzxhkhdKO8SGLDtxnHwLmdh6MXyDmZ/THiGpU8pVxRJXgvGZOfayFRyEDQSyOpmfM/CsG9L0bCif09XdJSPt2KOav+KXhGzOAUJlh/QFSGUyB7ASqWS0; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.80 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1T4tq7-000Mc4-GH; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:22:20 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1345814533-5418-5417/5/5; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:22:13 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: Konstantin Belousov References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120824051809.GP33100@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:21:57 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20120824051809.GP33100@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.01 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Report: ALL_TRUSTED=-1, KHOP_THREADED=-0.5 X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Walter Hurry Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:22:31 -0000 On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 00:18:09 -0500, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > This is a statement that is false at least two times, if not three. > This was a question about Kernel Binary Inteface, not Application > Binary Interface. I actually did mean to say KBI instead of ABI :-/ > First, we have zero guarantees about ability to load or have a system > survive loading of the module compiled against the later kernel. > Second, we do not have real KBI definition, and KBI stability is managed > only ad-hock. E.g. VFS quite often breaks, while network or disk > controllers > drivers are usually fine. I'll have to search my email but I had a conversation with someone whom I trusted (I believe within the FBSD project) that either mislead me or I misread what they were saying. Either way, thank you for the clarification. > YMMV. Snobby false statements hurt the project. There was nothing snobby about it; I was merely using Linux as a point of reference since most *nix users should have experience with Linux rejecting kernel modules that weren't compiled against that exact kernel. I could very well have said Plan9 instead but it would be meaningless because nobody actually runs Plan9. :-) Thanks again Konstantin :-) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 24 14:33:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41F6106564A for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:33:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437F68FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:33:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p57BCF578.dip.t-dialin.net [87.188.245.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q7OEXPdX016864 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:33:26 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q7OEXCqP015454 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:33:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q7OEX63K003598 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:33:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201208241433.q7OEX63K003598@fire.js.berklix.net> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:06:18 EDT." <201208231606.18346.jhb@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:33:06 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Subject: Re: Removing CVS from base X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:33:28 -0000 John Baldwin wrote: > On Thursday, August 23, 2012 3:41:03 pm Peter Wemm wrote: > > * Don't expect to see any 10.0-alpha/beta/rc/release/stable to *ever* > > make it to an official cvs tree. It's probably time to move a > > freebsd-ified cvs from head to ports. > > I think this is a bit premature. Just because we are moving away from > using CVS as FreeBSD's scm doesn't mean CVS isn't a useful > general-purpose tool still. For smaller repositories that don't need > fancier things like branches, CVS is quite useful and far lighter weight. > > I could see moving csup out to ports, but not necessarily CVS. Agreed. Principle of least suprise. CVS seems a standard Unix tool & source archive format, something people from other Unix distribs might expect by default. ( Like SCCs once was, between the mists of PWB, forward & beyond a BSD-4.2&3 Symmetric 375 (ex Bill Jollitz of 386BSD) For those of us that have [had to] work with lots of different Unix flavours, it's a PITA having gratuitious extra UNIX variant weirdnesses; (This missing here, that missing or renamed there etc). No need to make standard FreeBSD base awkward for people visiting from other Unixes. To avoid making 7.4M of src/contrib/cvs We have WITHOUT_CVS in man src.conf. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from Yahoo & Hotmail to be dumped @Berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 24 16:47:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFDC106564A for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:47:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from David.Boyd@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp2.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458438FC16 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:47:53 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=4X4phkhoFnpgk3UdFDJrQdHqK5PA6Vt9Q3utMayJ2dE= c=1 sm=0 a=zO4320yVsg8A:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=onxwQ1FuwR8A:10 a=RVsgJsN-t-V0ls_L6AcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=VWp6FqSG4Vb1RlmLnQz6YQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=David.Boyd@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com header.from=David.Boyd@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp01.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.138.146.238 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.138.146.238] ([74.138.146.238:1581] helo=sneezy) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 17/C2-04060-130B7305; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 12:47:47 -0400 From: "David Boyd" To: Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 12:47:45 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Importance: Normal Subject: 9.1-RC1 make buildworld with WITHOUT_LPR NO_LPR not cleaning up properly X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:47:54 -0000 /etc/make.conf contains NO_LPR=YES /etc/src.conf contains WITHOUT_LPR=YES make buildworld consistently (9.0 through 9.1-RC1) leaves /usr/share/doc/smm/07.lpd/paper.ascii.gz which is then deleted by make delete-old. This behaviour was not apparent in 8.x. I have systems available to test a fix. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 24 17:38:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B1E1065686 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 17:38:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (bigknife-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:75::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3F58FC0A for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 17:38:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (unknown [209.249.190.124]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 43C8DB941; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:38:20 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:37:28 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-CBSD-20110714-p17; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201208241337.28419.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:38:20 -0400 (EDT) Cc: David Boyd Subject: Re: 9.1-RC1 make buildworld with WITHOUT_LPR NO_LPR not cleaning up properly X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 17:38:21 -0000 On Friday, August 24, 2012 12:47:45 pm David Boyd wrote: > /etc/make.conf contains NO_LPR=YES > > /etc/src.conf contains WITHOUT_LPR=YES > > make buildworld consistently (9.0 through 9.1-RC1) leaves > > /usr/share/doc/smm/07.lpd/paper.ascii.gz > > which is then deleted by make delete-old. > > This behaviour was not apparent in 8.x. > > I have systems available to test a fix. Try this: Index: share/doc/smm/Makefile =================================================================== --- Makefile (revision 239655) +++ Makefile (working copy) @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ SUBDIR= title \ 04.quotas \ 05.fastfs \ 06.nfs \ - 07.lpd \ + ${_07.lpd} \ ${_08.sendmailop} \ 11.timedop \ 12.timed \ @@ -28,4 +28,8 @@ SUBDIR= title \ _08.sendmailop= 08.sendmailop .endif +.if ${MK_LPR} != "no" +_07.lpd= 07.lpd +.endif + .include -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 24 18:34:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2538106564A for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 18:34:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E6B78FC0A for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 18:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbbgg13 with SMTP id gg13so1567788lbb.13 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:34:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wemm.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=2E7SCGc+n1kBO3pZ/UlQei7rNrZQUD6Gw6LeBqRqqYc=; b=mZxQEs3p1oyK+xWMv3R0mSAzQ4ueW+oz2dTXyb3cWtzlC/NMGHPmLYOLS80AptntSx WYUkyxY/YRqfxjtjcz1jo+mYlIpgtYI4rvrjG5FLA9UnOv/mpmnahdso1UIoQ6XCuKVf rlEM8hGy6ST8uNoPFQT40oRiblW7JlxW+IdeI= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=2E7SCGc+n1kBO3pZ/UlQei7rNrZQUD6Gw6LeBqRqqYc=; b=gQ5xzUmavojiYMVvGS69WimcVirN+1lMPSyF+ircVeI0i27FaNJFOwLPzG4Gx9lnmi H7Q9rUJW2fucouTehYXZsbNjBJ1GD33BYyimuBJVINm5iCTL9NdgIq91Z0ZN/JnW72As VM0Gj60PCCwIpmIhXsVQf7n/J+y1cya1VcWXkzoESieCAEuR31XyzkFHx1LS8CRSWUSr 6VxNPl2X09EjtifH+ro4jinw8kqXeS31JJ9kvDY6mJqKNwdzkkiiEnMUnvWPKIbv7amO Fwp7+xBS+c/cn+CgFhUuq6BZun/emqP9Yk48pg8RY+9Er0U+Qmxhidu/ngAfTys+CQg5 jHKg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.46.209 with SMTP id x17mr6560713lam.38.1345833266721; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:34:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.77.33 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:34:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <62.F6.04060.FAFE6305@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> References: <62.F6.04060.FAFE6305@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:34:26 -0700 Message-ID: From: Peter Wemm To: Thomas Mueller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkC/ZrN0lv3xOhU46ViX9HHFylbKOEDkC3b/lDZmRRBr9YHyhc+IBQL8MoE7NLs+d10rBaz Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Ken Smith Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 18:34:28 -0000 On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > Excerpt from announcement by Ken Smith : > >> With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has been >> decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So >> csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to 9.1-RC1. >> If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1. > > I read your message and followup messages and have questions about how to switch from csup to svn. > > System source is in /usr/src obtained by csup, apparently now being deprecated. > > Do I need to delete (rm -R /usr/src/*) before running > > svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 /usr/src As a data point.. if you're talking about "stable/9", then that is still available via cvs/csup/cvsup as RELENG_9. If you track 9-stable, you're unaffected. But there will never be a RELENG_10* anything in cvs. -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 "If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution." -- Robert Sewell From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 24 19:00:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC7F106568C for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 19:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8C88FC1C for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 19:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbbgg13 with SMTP id gg13so1584461lbb.13 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 12:00:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wemm.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=zp9mPVpAdnFUscbg0CUYHJXvu5ikrYfWeXch6hVn6FQ=; b=33COMLxS04WMT7lUJC7L7bW05wZo+t0ajbLSDmf3sUf6sSctrsMMmMEciNSvQFWhOa Wq1dol47YZZHjFfAW4FM9aV7izOTzgGm/4VwWADh9s2l38wDmYpKPTrtVpHhBmHXf3td gG8rWHv2hAL+mmNOcTda7Z0dyC6lmxMgdcZOI= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=zp9mPVpAdnFUscbg0CUYHJXvu5ikrYfWeXch6hVn6FQ=; b=WMiPp+oieme+2lYGq77yxrRZ5kJryoq8GhljqDejltZSOIEn2tkHB/i9ngHTx5+y5a qblL0LgD0H8UW4ioq2+pzbJWJI9ri81gL7KLWJP6b+TUwseqg1QJTkQoENnfBNUMXqNG nFpcZteWRIVVgIDdD4aW2P961vrTuUlVQjraM0rRhlyzDAJFwKsIxR/VFSPIy5EAuqGx Po8Ym4Fv/CKh2J5R3Fs2AjFnlNnCfCeCqN7cZcTPBSunzgIh6X2T+u/ImiRvwc2xe7Uc 2LmBjn+XRNgTmb132lO5rETMGs0Exbu4cqa8S2lRb7RPhRPNIBYjxwIZgtPNXHKkmCp4 dccg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.84.105 with SMTP id x9mr3099197lby.92.1345834828253; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 12:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.77.33 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 12:00:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <62.F6.04060.FAFE6305@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 12:00:27 -0700 Message-ID: From: Peter Wemm To: Thomas Mueller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmYAtKem5FcajB2A9OjAsk9HCshmQ3nVN62JR683zxc+ZJo7tlyJ3KduOV1ap0DO7OJGQZI Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Ken Smith Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 19:00:31 -0000 On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Peter Wemm wrote: > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: >> Excerpt from announcement by Ken Smith : >> >>> With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has been >>> decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So >>> csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to 9.1-RC1. >>> If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1. >> >> I read your message and followup messages and have questions about how to switch from csup to svn. >> >> System source is in /usr/src obtained by csup, apparently now being deprecated. >> >> Do I need to delete (rm -R /usr/src/*) before running >> >> svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 /usr/src > > As a data point.. if you're talking about "stable/9", then that is > still available via cvs/csup/cvsup as RELENG_9. > > If you track 9-stable, you're unaffected. I got two private emails about this. To be clear, yes, if you're tracking RELENG_9, you will get "9.1-STABLE", and future 9.2 things just like before. All that is missing is the release management branch. > But there will never be a RELENG_10* anything in cvs. > > -- > Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV > "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 > "If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete > themselves upon execution." -- Robert Sewell -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 "If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution." -- Robert Sewell From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 24 19:19:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07EBF106564A for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 19:19:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kenfreebsd@icarz.com) Received: from deanna.icarz.com (deanna.icarz.com [207.99.22.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03528FC08 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 19:19:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.10.31.177] ([10.10.31.177]) (authenticated bits=0) by deanna.icarz.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q7OJJhnk068075 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:19:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kenfreebsd@icarz.com) Message-ID: <5037D3CF.8050902@icarz.com> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:19:43 -0400 From: Ken Menzel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <62.F6.04060.FAFE6305@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: <62.F6.04060.FAFE6305@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 207.99.22.19 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kmenzel@whisolutions.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 19:19:50 -0000 On 8/23/2012 11:06 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > Excerpt from announcement by Ken Smith : > >> With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has been >> decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So >> csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to 9.1-RC1. >> If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1. > > I read your message and followup messages and have questions about how to switch from csup to svn. > > System source is in /usr/src obtained by csup, apparently now being deprecated. > > Do I need to delete (rm -R /usr/src/*) before running > > svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 /usr/src > > I don't want an out-of-sync mess resulting from mixing two versions, assume that wouldn't work well. > > I guess I need to switch the doc (/usr/doc) also to svn. > > What about the ports? > > Would I need to switch the ports tree from "portsnap fetch update", or is portsnap still the proper way? > > Tom As I see no answered your real question. But I agree with them: yes you can still use csup or cvsup for releng_9 (stable 9). But as to your question, if you are switching to svn to try it out: In my experience I had to remove (rm -rf /usr/src) /usr/src or the old files remained. The checkout process did not update the existing files. But maybe I did something wrong. Tools other than cvs and cvsup are unaffected. You can still use portsnap or make fetch in /usr/ports etc. Ken From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 25 02:47:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8271065673; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 02:47:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (secure.freebsdsolutions.net [69.55.234.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD1C58FC0C; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 02:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.82] (jn@c-67-182-217-170.hsd1.ut.comcast.net [67.182.217.170]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q7P2liI6098049 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 24 Aug 2012 22:47:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp From: John Nielsen X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <143B56D7A14648EF98B8FE876080D497@ad.peach.ne.jp> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 20:48:01 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <02E5BFB9-901B-4AA3-9594-160C3259AE66@jnielsen.net> <143B56D7A14648EF98B8FE876080D497@ad.peach.ne.jp> To: Daisuke Aoyama X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) X-DCC-sonic.net-Metrics: ns1.jnielsen.net 1117; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.5 at ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updated isboot 0.2.6 and FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 02:47:54 -0000 Thank you for the quick response! On Aug 23, 2012, at 6:25 PM, Daisuke Aoyama wrote: > It seems a bug of isboot. Your NIC is link down, but isboot never = retry > on first connection. Because of this, it failed to find the boot = device. >=20 > I have updated isboot and created 9.1-RC based image. > Please try it: >=20 > http://www.peach.ne.jp/archives/isboot/isboot-0.2.6.tar.gz Working great with the new version of the module. It retries 3-4 times = until the link comes up then continues. Performing pretty well, = too--this is over a 1Gbps LAN on somewhat dated consumer hardware, with = istgt and a ZFS zvol on the other end. > = http://www.peach.ne.jp/archives/isboot/demo/FreeBSD-9.1-RC1-amd64-memstick= -isboot-0.2.6.img >=20 >> I have a few questions for you (or other knowledgeable people on the = list): >> 1) Does iBFT require hardware support in the NIC? >> 2) Does iBFT require NIC driver support? >=20 > NO. You can use both iBFT software like gPXE and NIC's rom like Intel = iSCSI boot agent. > The isboot should work with any NIC supported by FreeBSD. Fantastic. >> 3) Is anything required in loader.conf besides isboot_load=3D"YES"? >=20 > If your NIC driver is within the kernel, you need only = isboot_load=3D"YES". >=20 >> 4) Is it likely to work (better) if I find an em(4) card instead? >=20 > I have tested with Intel cards/onboard. If you want the maximum = performance, > I recommend you to use Intel card, but other cards should work with = isboot. I'll stick with what I have for this machine since it's working. In case = you're interested, here is the dmesg output from the machine: mptable_probe: MP Config Table has bad signature: 4\^C\^_ Copyright (c) 1992-2012 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights = reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #2 r239337M: Fri Aug 24 12:58:51 EDT 2012 root@stealth.jnielsen.net:/usr/obj/i386.i386/usr/src/sys/BUFF i386 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2800+ (2079.60-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "AuthenticAMD" Id =3D 0x6a0 Family =3D 6 Model =3D a = Stepping =3D 0 = Features=3D0x383fbff AMD Features=3D0xc0400800 real memory =3D 1342177280 (1280 MB) avail memory =3D 1300516864 (1240 MB) Event timer "LAPIC" quality 400 ACPI APIC Table: ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, 4fef0000 (3) failed cpu0: on acpi0 attimer0: port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on acpi0 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Event timer "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100 atrtc0: port 0x70-0x73 irq 8 on acpi0 Event timer "RTC" frequency 32768 Hz quality 0 Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 900 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x4008-0x400b on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 Correcting nForce2 C1 CPU disconnect hangs agp0: on hostb0 pci0: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.2 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.3 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.4 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.5 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 1.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 nfsmb0: port 0xd800-0xd81f irq 23 at = device 1.1 on pci0 smbus0: on nfsmb0 nfsmb1: on nfsmb0 smbus1: on nfsmb1 ohci0: mem 0xe5085000-0xe5085fff irq 20 = at device 2.0 on pci0 usbus0 on ohci0 ohci1: mem 0xe5081000-0xe5081fff irq 21 = at device 2.1 on pci0 usbus1 on ohci1 ehci0: mem 0xe5082000-0xe50820ff irq = 22 at device 2.2 on pci0 usbus2: EHCI version 1.0 usbus2 on ehci0 pci0: at device 5.0 (no driver attached) pcm0: port 0xdc00-0xdcff,0xe000-0xe07f mem = 0xe5086000-0xe5086fff irq 21 at device 6.0 on pci0 pcm0: pcib1: at device 8.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 skc0: port 0x9000-0x90ff mem = 0xe4020000-0xe4023fff irq 17 at device 4.0 on pci1 skc0: Marvell Yukon Lite Gigabit Ethernet rev. A3(0x7) sk0: on skc0 sk0: Ethernet address: 00:11:2f:57:f4:bf miibus0: on sk0 e1000phy0: PHY 0 on miibus0 e1000phy0: none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, = 1000baseT, 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, auto pci1: at device 7.0 (no driver attached) ath0: mem 0xe4010000-0xe401ffff irq 18 at device 8.0 on = pci1 [ath] enabling AN_TOP2_FIXUP ath0: DMA setup: legacy ath0: [HT] enabling HT modes ath0: [HT] 2 RX streams; 2 TX streams ath0: AR9220 mac 128.2 RF5133 phy 13.0 ath0: 2GHz radio: 0x0000; 5GHz radio: 0x00c0 atapci0: port = 0x9400-0x9407,0x9800-0x9803,0x9c00-0x9c07,0xa000-0xa003,0xa400-0xa40f = mem 0xe4024000-0xe40241ff irq 18 at device 11.0 on pci1 ata2: at channel 0 on atapci0 ata3: at channel 1 on atapci0 atapci1: port = 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xf000-0xf00f at device 9.0 on pci0 ata0: at channel 0 on atapci1 ata1: at channel 1 on atapci1 fwohci0: <1394 Open Host Controller Interface> mem = 0xe5083000-0xe50837ff,0xe5084000-0xe508403f irq 22 at device 13.0 on = pci0 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=3D0) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:e0:18:00:00:8e:25:12 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: fwohci_intr_core: BUS reset fwohci0: fwohci_intr_core: node_id=3D0x00000000, SelfID Count=3D1, = CYCLEMASTER mode pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci3: on pcib2 vgapci0: port 0xc000-0xc0ff mem = 0xd8000000-0xdfffffff,0xe2000000-0xe207ffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci3 fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on = acpi0 fdc0: does not respond device_attach: fdc0 attach returned 6 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] orm0: at iomem = 0xc0000-0xcbfff,0xcc000-0xcffff,0xd0000-0xd0fff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on = isa0 fdc0: No FDOUT register! ctl: CAM Target Layer loaded fwohci0: fwohci_intr_core: BUS reset firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <=3D 0 cable IRM irm(0) (me)=20 firewire0: bus manager 0=20 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec iSCSI boot driver version 0.2.6 IS: Initiator name: iqn.2000-09.org.etherboot:UNKNOWN NIC0: IP address: 192.168.2.8 NIC0: Prefix: 24 NIC0: Gateway: 192.168.2.10 NIC0: MAC address: 00:11:2f:57:f4:bf TGT0: Target IP address: 192.168.2.10 TGT0: Target Port: 3260 TGT0: Target LUN: 0 TGT0: Target name: iqn.2007-09.jp.ne.peach.istgt:bsdvol Boot NIC: sk0 Configure IPv4 by NIC0 Attempting to login to iSCSI target and scan all LUNs. usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus1: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus2: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 connect error connect failed ugen0.1: at usbus0 uhub0: on = usbus0 ugen1.1: at usbus1 uhub1: on = usbus1 ugen2.1: at usbus2 uhub2: on = usbus2 uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered connect error connect failed connect error connect failed uhub2: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered fwohci0: fwohci_intr_core: BUS reset connect error connect failed ugen1.2: at usbus1 ukbd0: on usbus1 kbd2 at ukbd0 ada0 at ata0 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 cd0 at ata1 bus 0 scbus3 target 0 lun 0 cd0: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A 1.05> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device=20 cd0: 33.300MB/s transfers (UDMA2, ATAPI 12bytes, PIO 65534bytes) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present da0 at isboot0 bus 0 scbus5 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-5 device=20 da0: 300.000MB/s transfers da0: 12288MB (25165824 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1566C) ada0: ATA-7 device ada0: 133.000MB/s transfers (UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: 78167MB (160086528 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada0: Previously was known as ad0 ada1 at ata1 bus 0 scbus3 target 1 lun 0 ada1: ATA-7 device ada1: 133.000MB/s transfers (UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada1: 78167MB (160086528 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada1: Previously was known as ad3 Boot device: da0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2079598782 Hz quality 800 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/gpt/bsdroot [rw]... uhid0: on usbus1 JN From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 25 03:07:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C390106566B for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 03:07:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@pingle.org) Received: from chloe.pingle.org (unknown [IPv6:2605:8000:d:1:40::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2A08FC0C for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 03:07:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from chloe.pingle.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by chloe.pingle.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808AE45095 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 23:07:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pingle.org Received: from chloe.pingle.org ([127.0.0.1]) by chloe.pingle.org (chloe.pingle.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yY7rom1-VDid for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 23:07:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f11:e1c:8024:1e6f:8461:6dd5] (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f11:e1c:8024:1e6f:8461:6dd5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jim) by chloe.pingle.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C215C45034 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 23:07:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <50384172.3090706@pingle.org> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 23:07:30 -0400 From: Jim Pingle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >> FreeBSD" References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <5036497F.7020501@icarz.com> <1345736581.27688.403.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> In-Reply-To: <1345736581.27688.403.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 03:07:38 -0000 On 8/23/2012 11:43 AM, Ian Lepore wrote: > On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 11:17 -0400, Ken Menzel wrote: >> >> I found two good primers: >> http://mebsd.com/configure-freebsd-servers/update-freebsd-source-tree-using-subversion-svn.html >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/committers-guide/article.html#SUBVERSION-PRIMER >> >> The second primer in the committer handbook seems to indicate that it >> is difficult to run an SVN mirror. This appears to me to be the >> biggest drawback. I have been using CVS and perforce for years, but >> subversion is new to me. > > It may be difficult to run an svn mirror that allows you to commit > locally and get those changes back to the project, but running a > read-only mirror is trivial. The script I run nightly from cron to sync > my local mirror is: > > #!/bin/sh > # > # svnsync to pull in changes from FreeBSD to my local mirror. > # > svnsync sync file:///local/vc/svn/base > > I can't remember how I initially created and populated the mirror, but > it's likely I grabbed a snapshot of the mirror at work and brought it > home on a thumb drive (just to avoid initial network DL time). I spent a little time today setting up an SVN mirror after reading this thread and wrote up a how-to for those looking to do the same. http://www.pingle.org/2012/08/24/freebsd-svn-mirror Comments/Flames/Corrections welcome... Jim From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 25 04:05:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E5B106564A for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:05:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mauzo@anubis.morrow.me.uk) Received: from isis.morrow.me.uk (isis.morrow.me.uk [204.109.63.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170DE8FC0A for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from anubis.morrow.me.uk (host86-182-11-147.range86-182.btcentralplus.com [86.182.11.147]) (Authenticated sender: mauzo) by isis.morrow.me.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1DACB450B1 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 03:55:49 +0000 (UTC) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.1 isis.morrow.me.uk 1DACB450B1 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=morrow.me.uk; s=dkim201101; t=1345866950; bh=podBcu4n2gsAqSA8L/gqTMJ0131BFNEPBH5vIzEFlCg=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:In-Reply-To; b=UMsXBNRFjXt2DUFX7ysEslOKsFdNIYZmBXg+bQmFEIxbWVfL/hu/MIJZymLFInaOf 55+TDI4Mevg8D4FgWHU2VZo1fvI1cT4s2+6q2xktCmaFEJfqlbrRjjizj3QzJiBl93 orIA0k8x7XHYrJMxzPqa3qv93lFsGuzy3mCWwlq8= X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.5 at isis.morrow.me.uk Received: by anubis.morrow.me.uk (Postfix, from userid 5001) id 12C0044C9; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:55:48 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:55:48 +0100 From: Ben Morrow To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120825035543.GA25767@anubis.morrow.me.uk> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> X-Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.stable User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:05:20 -0000 Quoth Ken Smith : > > The latter. If you are not using FreeBSD-Update to handle the updates > of a machine you'll need to update your source tree using SVN for > release branches (releng/*) from now on. Updates of the CVS repository > will continue for the existing stable/* and head for now. I don't think > anything has been decided on when that will stop. Two questions: 1. Is is sensible|supported to use freebsd-update to update just the src component, followed by a normal buildworld/buildkernel to update the rest of the system? I would much prefer to avoid having to use svn, especially given that it isn't in the base system. 2. If I have patched my source tree, what will freebsd-update do? csup resets the patched files to the versions in the new tree, which is satisfactory (I can reapply any patches afterwards, adjusting them if necessary), but if freebsd-update leaves a mixture of new-and-unpatched and old-and-patched files in the tree that could be a problem. (Not an insoluble problem, of course, especially with ZFS snapshots.) Ben From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 25 04:14:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B830D106568C; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:14:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onyx.glenbarber.us (onyx.glenbarber.us [IPv6:2607:fc50:1000:c200::face]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C42F8FC21; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:14:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from glenbarber.us (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:8:1205:2:2:0:24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gjb) by onyx.glenbarber.us (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6A3CC23F641; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 00:14:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 00:13:58 -0400 From: Glen Barber To: Ben Morrow Message-ID: <20120825041357.GD1345@glenbarber.us> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20120825035543.GA25767@anubis.morrow.me.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jL2BoiuKMElzg3CS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120825035543.GA25767@anubis.morrow.me.uk> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:14:02 -0000 --jL2BoiuKMElzg3CS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 04:55:48AM +0100, Ben Morrow wrote: > Quoth Ken Smith : > >=20 > > The latter. If you are not using FreeBSD-Update to handle the updates > > of a machine you'll need to update your source tree using SVN for > > release branches (releng/*) from now on. Updates of the CVS repository > > will continue for the existing stable/* and head for now. I don't think > > anything has been decided on when that will stop. >=20 > Two questions: >=20 > 1. Is is sensible|supported to use freebsd-update to update just the src > component, followed by a normal buildworld/buildkernel to update the > rest of the system? I would much prefer to avoid having to use svn, > especially given that it isn't in the base system. >=20 No. freebsd-update(8) is a binary system updater. It does not touch your source tree. Glen --jL2BoiuKMElzg3CS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJQOFEFAAoJEFJPDDeguUaj4CkH/1xY3EszD32WedysdyqGWDQf 4julEvU9+U9kOx1djDVfQgBU8oFR5BA6fA5Te4M/cctbWnjUmsi4N9pu34FJEiJZ NiZfev0eEJZnkdvS992kkrrkotZ9GmmZm2Q5STM8taXNNQQwo3ZZE/UIHovMtLtD D1/Y+25h5yd7g0tJW0zU8u3wnO7FEDTMbDx00ricfJrUHRgUBlGeb2BdtNaD1RTh TqBONZJSN8KHMv78fqib2VFFx9T0Svg/d2bbdCWHnf3pnog7dEfHj9XQkFMfYo0y JdxFBm43lb60+3GOKA0rfXwB0QxC3DP5bv1TgS7AA8nC9KeScPYx043+I5adRNY= =fL+A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jL2BoiuKMElzg3CS-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 25 04:18:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7A5106566B; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:18:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu) Received: from hergotha.csail.mit.edu (wollman-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:ccb::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C230D8FC0A; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:18:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hergotha.csail.mit.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hergotha.csail.mit.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7P4IdF7013397; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 00:18:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by hergotha.csail.mit.edu (8.14.5/8.14.4/Submit) id q7P4Idnp013396; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 00:18:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 00:18:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <201208250418.q7P4Idnp013396@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> To: gjb@freebsd.org X-Newsgroups: mit.lcs.mail.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: <20120825041357.GD1345@glenbarber.us> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20120825035543.GA25767@anubis.morrow.me.uk> Organization: none X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (hergotha.csail.mit.edu [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 25 Aug 2012 00:18:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on hergotha.csail.mit.edu Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:18:41 -0000 In article <20120825041357.GD1345@glenbarber.us>, gjb@freebsd.org writes: >On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 04:55:48AM +0100, Ben Morrow wrote: >> 1. Is is sensible|supported to use freebsd-update to update just the src >> component, followed by a normal buildworld/buildkernel to update the >> rest of the system? I would much prefer to avoid having to use svn, >> especially given that it isn't in the base system. >No. freebsd-update(8) is a binary system updater. It does not touch >your source tree. It works just fine for that, actually -- PROVIDED that you installed the source tree the same way (from original installation media or with a previous freebsd-update invocation). I don't know what it will do if you've modified the sources. On the machines where I do this, I don't touch the sources. -GAWollman From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 25 04:24:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFE61065670; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:24:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onyx.glenbarber.us (onyx.glenbarber.us [IPv6:2607:fc50:1000:c200::face]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3AF8FC12; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from glenbarber.us (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:8:1205:2:2:0:24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gjb) by onyx.glenbarber.us (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C800823F641; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 00:24:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 00:24:16 -0400 From: Glen Barber To: Garrett Wollman Message-ID: <20120825042416.GE1345@glenbarber.us> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20120825035543.GA25767@anubis.morrow.me.uk> <201208250418.q7P4Idnp013396@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SWTRyWv/ijrBap1m" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201208250418.q7P4Idnp013396@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:24:21 -0000 --SWTRyWv/ijrBap1m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 12:18:39AM -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: > In article <20120825041357.GD1345@glenbarber.us>, gjb@freebsd.org writes: > >On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 04:55:48AM +0100, Ben Morrow wrote: > >> 1. Is is sensible|supported to use freebsd-update to update just the s= rc > >> component, followed by a normal buildworld/buildkernel to update the > >> rest of the system? I would much prefer to avoid having to use svn, > >> especially given that it isn't in the base system. >=20 > >No. freebsd-update(8) is a binary system updater. It does not touch > >your source tree. >=20 > It works just fine for that, actually -- PROVIDED that you installed > the source tree the same way (from original installation media or with > a previous freebsd-update invocation). >=20 He asked "followed by buildworld/buildkernel." This implies customization, as did the second question. > I don't know what it will do if you've modified the sources. On the > machines where I do this, I don't touch the sources. >=20 I do. It will overwrite them. Glen --SWTRyWv/ijrBap1m Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJQOFNwAAoJEFJPDDeguUajDh4H/jqwEAYh7MQ2pnpxzRMv0Lc+ awVzwRhFRH+SRhE2uO6bxP9SN5sz5PYbdzkjn5tEmEWatZjG7cJwloMFqxyt+Mmo wtDmyYcI9cAH4LFCqXqqttdycv/DuDS3XUHLKUffl0HUBs3Keu/GlHuwsLG+Izrb Oe+fwtAumcjchUBkVBAqNdKQcykAp48/FfIL5VuYW+AuaBv+Qf6Tx0CX0ZtZF14i PWBDBWx8iSdRWgodcqYRKp4JmZV75QgVY8eZSPCZIe4dfBrQWFVlDeXN3XAUulNL ndzvt8aGkQG6o84V+bw+2aT155cY5UJYhVf0gVceCWc5wE83baRx/V0/5iKz3EA= =N7XD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SWTRyWv/ijrBap1m-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 25 05:19:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1F0106564A for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 05:19:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A018FC14 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 05:19:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7P5JaWR064012; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 22:19:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) From: Dennis Glatting To: Jim Pingle In-Reply-To: <50384172.3090706@pingle.org> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <5036497F.7020501@icarz.com> <1345736581.27688.403.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <50384172.3090706@pingle.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 22:19:36 -0700 Message-ID: <1345871976.85365.3.camel@btw.pki2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: q7P5JaWR064012 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: freebsd@pki2.com Cc: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >> FreeBSD" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 05:19:44 -0000 On Fri, 2012-08-24 at 23:07 -0400, Jim Pingle wrote: > On 8/23/2012 11:43 AM, Ian Lepore wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 11:17 -0400, Ken Menzel wrote: > >> > >> I found two good primers: > >> http://mebsd.com/configure-freebsd-servers/update-freebsd-source-tree-using-subversion-svn.html > >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/committers-guide/article.html#SUBVERSION-PRIMER > >> > >> The second primer in the committer handbook seems to indicate that it > >> is difficult to run an SVN mirror. This appears to me to be the > >> biggest drawback. I have been using CVS and perforce for years, but > >> subversion is new to me. > > > > It may be difficult to run an svn mirror that allows you to commit > > locally and get those changes back to the project, but running a > > read-only mirror is trivial. The script I run nightly from cron to sync > > my local mirror is: > > > > #!/bin/sh > > # > > # svnsync to pull in changes from FreeBSD to my local mirror. > > # > > svnsync sync file:///local/vc/svn/base > > > > I can't remember how I initially created and populated the mirror, but > > it's likely I grabbed a snapshot of the mirror at work and brought it > > home on a thumb drive (just to avoid initial network DL time). > > I spent a little time today setting up an SVN mirror after reading this > thread and wrote up a how-to for those looking to do the same. > > http://www.pingle.org/2012/08/24/freebsd-svn-mirror > > Comments/Flames/Corrections welcome... > There are two things that I am confused about "base." 1) What, exactly, is base? When I do a co, what tree branch is that? 2) Base /appears/ not to contain releng/9.1 or stable/8. How do I mirror those? > Jim > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 25 07:17:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44832106564A for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 07:17:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gw.catspoiler.org (gw.catspoiler.org [75.1.14.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279A78FC0A for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 07:17:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from FreeBSD.org (mousie.catspoiler.org [192.168.101.2]) by gw.catspoiler.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id q7P7HfYu055655; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 00:17:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <201208250717.q7P7HfYu055655@gw.catspoiler.org> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 00:17:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis To: gkontos.mail@gmail.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: LSI 9240-4i 4K alignment X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 07:17:52 -0000 On 8 Aug, George Kontostanos wrote: > The problem: > > When trying to create a RaidZ pool using gpart and perform a 4K > alignment using gnop, we get the follwoing error immediately after > exporting the pool and destroying the .nop devices: > > id: 8043746387654554958 > state: FAULTED > status: One or more devices contains corrupted data. > action: The pool cannot be imported due to damaged devices or data. > The pool may be active on another system, but can be imported using > the '-f' flag. > see: http://illumos.org/msg/ZFS-8000-5E > config: > > Pool FAULTED corrupted data > raidz1-0 ONLINE > 13283347160590042564 UNAVAIL corrupted data > 16981727992215676534 UNAVAIL corrupted data > 6607570030658834339 UNAVAIL corrupted data > 3435463242860701988 UNAVAIL corrupted data > > When we use glabel for the same purpose with the combination of gnop, > the pool imports fine. Might kern/170945 have something to do with this? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 25 07:24:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA9641065673 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 07:24:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (kontrol.kode5.net [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209338FC0C for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 07:24:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kontrol.kode5.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7P7OAfh014519 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 08:24:11 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by kontrol.kode5.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q7P7OAAB014518 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 08:24:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) X-Authentication-Warning: kontrol.kode5.net: jamie set sender to jamie@kode5.net using -f Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 08:24:10 +0100 From: Jamie Paul Griffin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120825072410.GB14409@kontrol.kode5.net> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <5036497F.7020501@icarz.com> <1345736581.27688.403.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <50384172.3090706@pingle.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50384172.3090706@pingle.org> x-operating-system: FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 x-pgp-fingerprint: A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.5 at kontrol.kode5.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 07:24:13 -0000 [ Jim Pingle wrote on Fri 24.Aug'12 at 23:07:30 -0400 ] > On 8/23/2012 11:43 AM, Ian Lepore wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 11:17 -0400, Ken Menzel wrote: > >> > >> I found two good primers: > >> http://mebsd.com/configure-freebsd-servers/update-freebsd-source-tree-using-subversion-svn.html > >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/committers-guide/article.html#SUBVERSION-PRIMER > >> > >> The second primer in the committer handbook seems to indicate that it > >> is difficult to run an SVN mirror. This appears to me to be the > >> biggest drawback. I have been using CVS and perforce for years, but > >> subversion is new to me. > > > > It may be difficult to run an svn mirror that allows you to commit > > locally and get those changes back to the project, but running a > > read-only mirror is trivial. The script I run nightly from cron to sync > > my local mirror is: > > > > #!/bin/sh > > # > > # svnsync to pull in changes from FreeBSD to my local mirror. > > # > > svnsync sync file:///local/vc/svn/base > > > > I can't remember how I initially created and populated the mirror, but > > it's likely I grabbed a snapshot of the mirror at work and brought it > > home on a thumb drive (just to avoid initial network DL time). > > I spent a little time today setting up an SVN mirror after reading this > thread and wrote up a how-to for those looking to do the same. > > http://www.pingle.org/2012/08/24/freebsd-svn-mirror > > Comments/Flames/Corrections welcome... That's cool Jim. Certainly provides a clear explanation and simple steps. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 25 07:54:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FA7106564A; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 07:54:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from auryn@zirakzigil.org) Received: from mx1.giulioferro.ch (mx1.giulioferro.ch [217.150.252.208]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56618FC19; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 07:54:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailscan.giulioferro.ch (unknown [192.168.115.2]) by mx1.giulioferro.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B06371D36; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:54:11 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com Received: from mx1.giulioferro.ch ([192.168.114.4]) by mailscan.giulioferro.ch (mailscan.giulioferro.ch [192.168.115.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nVqSFy_6bggf; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:54:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.zirakzigil.org (net-93-70-48-129.cust.dsl.vodafone.it [93.70.48.129]) by mx1.giulioferro.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57CDA71D1E; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:54:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ext.zirakzigil.org (unknown [192.168.1.2]) by mail.zirakzigil.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A248D19BB24; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:49:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zirakzigil.org Received: from mail.zirakzigil.org ([192.168.1.2]) by ext.zirakzigil.org (ext.zirakzigil.org [192.168.1.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mZ6KocGfew8L; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:49:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.229.48] (ext [192.168.1.2]) (Authenticated sender: auryn@zirakzigil.org) by mail.zirakzigil.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 31D5D19BB1E; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:49:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <503884A0.50708@zirakzigil.org> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:54:08 +0200 From: Giulio Ferro User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org References: <5033FB17.7020600@zirakzigil.org> In-Reply-To: <5033FB17.7020600@zirakzigil.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Problem with link aggregation + sshd X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 07:54:18 -0000 No answer, so it seems that link aggregation doesn't really work in freebsd, this may help others with the same problem... I reverted back to one link for management and one for service, and ssh works as it should... On 08/21/2012 11:18 PM, Giulio Ferro wrote: > Scenario : freebsd 9 stable (yesterday) amd64 on HP server with 4 nic > (igb) > > 1 nic is connected standalone to the management switch, the 3 other nics > are connected to a switch configured for aggregation. > > If I configure the first nic (igb0) there is no problem, I can operate > as I normally do and sshd functions normally. > > The problems start when I configure the 3 other nics for aggregation: > > in /etc/rc.conf > ... > ifconfig_igb1="up" > ifconfig_igb2="up" > ifconfig_igb3="up" > > cloned_interfaces=lagg0 > ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto lacp laggport igb1 laggport igb2 laggport > igb3 192.168.12.7/24" > ... > > I restart the server and the aggregation seems to work correctly, in > fact ifconfig returns the correct lagg0 interface with the aggregated > links, the correct protocol (lacp) and the correct ip address and the > status is active. I can ping other IPs on the aggregated link. > > Also the other (standalone) link seems to work correctly. I can ping > that address from other machines, and I can ping other IPs from that > server. > > DNS lookups work ok too I can also use telnet to connect to pop3 > servers so there seems to be no problem on the network stack. > > But if I try to connect to the sshd service on that server, it hangs > indefinitely. On the server I find two sshd processes: > /usr/sbin/sshd > /usr/sbin/sshd -R > > There is no message in the logs. > > If I try to kill sshd (/etc/rc.d/sshd stop) I can't. it just stays there > forever waiting for the pid to die (it never does) > > Even ssh client doesn't seem to work. In fact, if I try to connect to > another server, the ssh client may start to work correctly, then soon > or later it just hangs there forever, and I can't kill it with ctrl-c. > > No firewall is configured, there is nothing else working on this server. > > Thanks for any suggestions... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 25 09:38:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9506C106564A; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:38:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.schmalzbauer@omnilan.de) Received: from host.omnilan.net (s1.omnilan.net [62.245.232.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E9E8FC1B; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:38:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from titan.inop.wdn.omnilan.net (titan.inop.wdn.omnilan.net [172.21.3.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by host.omnilan.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q7P9YL7o041058 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 25 Aug 2012 11:34:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from h.schmalzbauer@omnilan.de) Message-ID: <50389BFC.8050300@omnilan.de> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 11:33:48 +0200 From: Harald Schmalzbauer Organization: OmniLAN User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; de-DE; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100906 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Wemm References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <3E419978-37B5-434B-BB54-A4C069A9A887@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7E9D5B94A6182A42DFF9819F" Cc: Ken Smith , freebsd-stable , re , Ian Smith , "Simon L. B. Nielsen" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:38:29 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7E9D5B94A6182A42DFF9819F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable schrieb Peter Wemm am 24.08.2012 00:14 (localtime): > ... > You'll also find out very quickly how much fsync(2) hurts on a softdep > or su+j system. The svn fsfs backend does a fsync multiple times per > revision to guarantee its transaction boundaries. Not only on softdep ufs, also with zfs I'm seeing big performance regressions (checkout ports from one zfs holding svnsynced repo to another on the same pool takes hours with svn, while completed in less than half an hour with csup) But my real problem is that svn is not in the base system. And for example installing subversion package on my cvsup mirror failed because pkg-config-0-25_1 was installed and sqlite, a dependency of subversion, wants to install pkgconf-0.8.5. So I'm hit by the henn-egg problem. I hope I can build subversion (sqlite) with pkg-config-0 dependency, but right now I still have to wait for this awful slow svn checkout (svn co file:///svn/repos/mirror/ports/head /usr/ports/) Can someone share any sensible tuning for svn and zfs? Is it possible to build any svn compatible (checkout-only-capable) binary without that much dependencies? If so, I hope this will be in the base very soon. Thanks, -Harry --------------enig7E9D5B94A6182A42DFF9819F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlA4nAEACgkQLDqVQ9VXb8hBxQCeNpo7z0SmwUjsYjTSiPULigx6 BjIAniQN8BbSS50fohnLZ4HQim1ZiQ6B =NByo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7E9D5B94A6182A42DFF9819F-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 25 09:44:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66258106566B; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from emx.nitro.dk (emx.nitro.dk [IPv6:2a01:4f8:120:7384::102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D108FC0C; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailscan.leto.nitro.dk (mailscan.leto.nitro.dk [127.0.1.4]) by emx.nitro.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87EC02BC708; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emx.nitro.dk ([127.0.1.2]) by mailscan.leto.nitro.dk (mailscan.leto.nitro.dk [127.0.1.4]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id NN2XogD6EM70; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.4.28] (unknown [89.100.2.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by emx.nitro.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7956A2BC703; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: "Simon L. B. Nielsen" In-Reply-To: <50389BFC.8050300@omnilan.de> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 10:44:03 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <3E419978-37B5-434B-BB54-A4C069A9A887@FreeBSD.org> <50389BFC.8050300@omnilan.de> To: Harald Schmalzbauer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) Cc: Ken Smith , freebsd-stable , "Simon L. B. Nielsen" , Peter Wemm , Ian Smith Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:44:08 -0000 [Removing re@] On 25 Aug 2012, at 10:33, Harald Schmalzbauer = wrote: > schrieb Peter Wemm am 24.08.2012 00:14 (localtime): >> ... >> You'll also find out very quickly how much fsync(2) hurts on a = softdep >> or su+j system. The svn fsfs backend does a fsync multiple times per >> revision to guarantee its transaction boundaries. >=20 > Not only on softdep ufs, also with zfs I'm seeing big performance > regressions (checkout ports from one zfs holding svnsynced repo to > another on the same pool takes hours with svn, while completed in less > than half an hour with csup) > But my real problem is that svn is not in the base system. And for > example installing subversion package on my cvsup mirror failed = because > pkg-config-0-25_1 was installed and sqlite, a dependency of = subversion, > wants to install pkgconf-0.8.5. So I'm hit by the henn-egg problem. I > hope I can build subversion (sqlite) with pkg-config-0 dependency, but > right now I still have to wait for this awful slow svn checkout (svn = co > file:///svn/repos/mirror/ports/head /usr/ports/) >=20 > Can someone share any sensible tuning for svn and zfs? >=20 > Is it possible to build any svn compatible (checkout-only-capable) > binary without that much dependencies? If so, I hope this will be in = the > base very soon. If you are going to do checkouts from svn:// only you can disable Neon = which should reduce the dependency chain some. I haven't found svn = checkouts to be too slow most of the time, but of course I'm generally = using systems with hardware RAID controller which likely helps some. PS. I don't think you should expect svn in base - it has too many = dependencies, options, and is too fast moving to sanely be in the base = system. --=20 Simon L. B. Nielsen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 25 11:18:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88371065673 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 11:18:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB958FC19 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 11:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhr14 with SMTP id hr14so1363558wib.13 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:18:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to :x-gm-message-state; bh=pHizajip9b8H7LXvyhSQZ5W+IBj07Q6CDfw7knNCQCA=; b=mqTsAcluGliP5lLqfhOhCBYd0iFBERaXlDHFJ0G+H4gL42SkvCHGkyfoTnA+RJfRvR uFkE9pUSkAszC7t0UqY8ky8QFsGYod0TrMnJhSIJ+rZZ5cdD3++ZXIz8XijTV2jIBf3u cESfbBvtID29tyM6LQmwnZGNGZ2TB8LtdcenvWBial1Q6Q5qPfiHHYeTLuEm0KaMWpwr a8BRkbl+4w8IW4ysSKk/3h+2wysb0zf11NK/RvSSupxXem8IJFEPaPQCmnNLVCKOlLg0 Fd8ZwDnsJ/Bly/SLd9SXUD+AL/IvimRTli5HZQBsQSG3kl3PsB2IBMPr0UUOHOqAdeMx Nifw== Received: by 10.217.1.79 with SMTP id m57mr3926630wes.121.1345893512660; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (did75-17-88-165-130-96.fbx.proxad.net. [88.165.130.96]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h9sm2563564wiz.1.2012.08.25.04.18.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:18:31 -0700 (PDT) References: <5033FB17.7020600@zirakzigil.org> <503884A0.50708@zirakzigil.org> In-Reply-To: <503884A0.50708@zirakzigil.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 13:18:27 +0200 To: Giulio Ferro X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmEAbwJDmfS/5YFUtHK+F7/Ag8VBXVH/KKfyppjeZr6R9EOP9/CvsZ1uYqKdJrMc9rcHj0h Cc: "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Problem with link aggregation + sshd X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 11:18:35 -0000 I'll get back to you regarding link aggregation when I'm done with groceries= . We use it here in production and it works flawlessly. On 25 Aug 2012, at 09:54, Giulio Ferro wrote: > No answer, so it seems that link aggregation doesn't really work in freebs= d, > this may help others with the same problem... >=20 > I reverted back to one link for management and one for service, and ssh > works as it should... >=20 >=20 > On 08/21/2012 11:18 PM, Giulio Ferro wrote: >> Scenario : freebsd 9 stable (yesterday) amd64 on HP server with 4 nic (ig= b) >>=20 >> 1 nic is connected standalone to the management switch, the 3 other nics >> are connected to a switch configured for aggregation. >>=20 >> If I configure the first nic (igb0) there is no problem, I can operate >> as I normally do and sshd functions normally. >>=20 >> The problems start when I configure the 3 other nics for aggregation: >>=20 >> in /etc/rc.conf >> ... >> ifconfig_igb1=3D"up" >> ifconfig_igb2=3D"up" >> ifconfig_igb3=3D"up" >>=20 >> cloned_interfaces=3Dlagg0 >> ifconfig_lagg0=3D"laggproto lacp laggport igb1 laggport igb2 laggport igb= 3 192.168.12.7/24" >> ... >>=20 >> I restart the server and the aggregation seems to work correctly, in >> fact ifconfig returns the correct lagg0 interface with the aggregated >> links, the correct protocol (lacp) and the correct ip address and the >> status is active. I can ping other IPs on the aggregated link. >>=20 >> Also the other (standalone) link seems to work correctly. I can ping >> that address from other machines, and I can ping other IPs from that >> server. >>=20 >> DNS lookups work ok too I can also use telnet to connect to pop3 >> servers so there seems to be no problem on the network stack. >>=20 >> But if I try to connect to the sshd service on that server, it hangs >> indefinitely. On the server I find two sshd processes: >> /usr/sbin/sshd >> /usr/sbin/sshd -R >>=20 >> There is no message in the logs. >>=20 >> If I try to kill sshd (/etc/rc.d/sshd stop) I can't. it just stays there >> forever waiting for the pid to die (it never does) >>=20 >> Even ssh client doesn't seem to work. In fact, if I try to connect to >> another server, the ssh client may start to work correctly, then soon >> or later it just hangs there forever, and I can't kill it with ctrl-c. >>=20 >> No firewall is configured, there is nothing else working on this server. >>=20 >> Thanks for any suggestions... >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"= >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 25 11:22:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8B41065688 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 11:22:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17CB98FC12 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 11:22:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhr14 with SMTP id hr14so1365138wib.13 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:22:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to :x-gm-message-state; bh=PfHMycg90xrBC0l5pNdn7VJGSuH0WcFh4u04IZ2PTWw=; b=dSdBgQ+d/f/hqWpqNcNiiLJ0Hsnt0FahIu1Wi03HtGoiPIcSrbF9NzQRhaU0SG/39x cExvHmxJ/3P5fudOTtKU/l3Av53nO1Za+RTeUrJA65oSNLBxyZPn1PDWMzCdXtVx4AJC +78y9UYB3aR/45bhfrShLlG2SpvIKN+MmR3qjv4C5mz9mHyv3CiTKrng2CRjtuuIMtv9 jeLz/03LGUN4hao8ZJIHxzU3tFDcLi4xDX6+2YP8e4nOb6Ubg4lakSuCyON7Ap0ZI1o7 hOimrK3XlgyBGVMqA7eFqAno/IZIrvqpAW3pCQ1U/rAgUBYXVbwYia6EIH5xAcpv8gFf atcg== Received: by 10.180.104.197 with SMTP id gg5mr11997865wib.9.1345893730240; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (did75-17-88-165-130-96.fbx.proxad.net. [88.165.130.96]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id eu4sm2573261wib.2.2012.08.25.04.22.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:22:09 -0700 (PDT) References: <5033FB17.7020600@zirakzigil.org> <503884A0.50708@zirakzigil.org> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 13:22:06 +0200 To: Damien Fleuriot X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnF59bvWVj4k8qiy1y+/6AUKtZtcOMdJnObd+AvD0nnvMIAMUSnXztxsZV/YNe3lS5/knJ0 Cc: "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" , Giulio Ferro , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Problem with link aggregation + sshd X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 11:22:11 -0000 In the meantime kindly post: Ifconfig for your igb0 Netstat -rn Netstat -aln | grep 22 On 25 Aug 2012, at 13:18, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > I'll get back to you regarding link aggregation when I'm done with groceri= es. >=20 > We use it here in production and it works flawlessly. >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 25 Aug 2012, at 09:54, Giulio Ferro wrote: >=20 >> No answer, so it seems that link aggregation doesn't really work in freeb= sd, >> this may help others with the same problem... >>=20 >> I reverted back to one link for management and one for service, and ssh >> works as it should... >>=20 >>=20 >> On 08/21/2012 11:18 PM, Giulio Ferro wrote: >>> Scenario : freebsd 9 stable (yesterday) amd64 on HP server with 4 nic (i= gb) >>>=20 >>> 1 nic is connected standalone to the management switch, the 3 other nics= >>> are connected to a switch configured for aggregation. >>>=20 >>> If I configure the first nic (igb0) there is no problem, I can operate >>> as I normally do and sshd functions normally. >>>=20 >>> The problems start when I configure the 3 other nics for aggregation: >>>=20 >>> in /etc/rc.conf >>> ... >>> ifconfig_igb1=3D"up" >>> ifconfig_igb2=3D"up" >>> ifconfig_igb3=3D"up" >>>=20 >>> cloned_interfaces=3Dlagg0 >>> ifconfig_lagg0=3D"laggproto lacp laggport igb1 laggport igb2 laggport ig= b3 192.168.12.7/24" >>> ... >>>=20 >>> I restart the server and the aggregation seems to work correctly, in >>> fact ifconfig returns the correct lagg0 interface with the aggregated >>> links, the correct protocol (lacp) and the correct ip address and the >>> status is active. I can ping other IPs on the aggregated link. >>>=20 >>> Also the other (standalone) link seems to work correctly. I can ping >>> that address from other machines, and I can ping other IPs from that >>> server. >>>=20 >>> DNS lookups work ok too I can also use telnet to connect to pop3 >>> servers so there seems to be no problem on the network stack. >>>=20 >>> But if I try to connect to the sshd service on that server, it hangs >>> indefinitely. On the server I find two sshd processes: >>> /usr/sbin/sshd >>> /usr/sbin/sshd -R >>>=20 >>> There is no message in the logs. >>>=20 >>> If I try to kill sshd (/etc/rc.d/sshd stop) I can't. it just stays there= >>> forever waiting for the pid to die (it never does) >>>=20 >>> Even ssh client doesn't seem to work. In fact, if I try to connect to >>> another server, the ssh client may start to work correctly, then soon >>> or later it just hangs there forever, and I can't kill it with ctrl-c. >>>=20 >>> No firewall is configured, there is nothing else working on this server.= >>>=20 >>> Thanks for any suggestions... >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"= From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 25 11:42:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D88F106566B for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 11:42:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (m209-73.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.209.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D824E8FC0A for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 11:42:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7PBg3WA035309; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:42:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q7PBg3Hi035308; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:42:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 04:42:03 -0700 From: David Wolfskill To: Dennis Glatting Message-ID: <20120825114203.GZ1537@albert.catwhisker.org> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <5036497F.7020501@icarz.com> <1345736581.27688.403.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <50384172.3090706@pingle.org> <1345871976.85365.3.camel@btw.pki2.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="iRaAnoDFBoP0sW/E" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1345871976.85365.3.camel@btw.pki2.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 11:42:04 -0000 --iRaAnoDFBoP0sW/E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:19:36PM -0700, Dennis Glatting wrote: > ... > There are two things that I am confused about "base." >=20 > 1) What, exactly, is base? When I do a co, what tree branch is that? Using CVS, failure to specify a tag would get you HEAD. Using SVN, failure to specify a branch will get you head. This may help. As noted previously, I have a local private mirror of the FreeBSD SVN src repository located in /svn/freebsd/src/base; so: g1-227(9.1-P)[1] svn ls file:///svn/freebsd/src/base ROADMAP.txt cvs2svn/ head/ projects/ release/ releng/ stable/ svnadmin/ user/ vendor/ vendor-crypto/ vendor-sys/ g1-227(9.1-P)[2] svn ls file:///svn/freebsd/src/base/releng 2.0.5/ 4.10/ 4.11/ 4.3/ 4.4/ 4.5/ 4.6/ 4.7/ 4.8/ 4.9/ 5.0/ 5.1/ 5.2/ 5.3/ 5.4/ 5.5/ 6.0/ 6.1/ 6.2/ 6.3/ 6.4/ 7.0/ 7.1/ 7.2/ 7.3/ 7.4/ 8.0/ 8.1/ 8.2/ 8.3/ 9.0/ 9.1/ ALPHA_2_0/ BETA_2_0/ g1-227(9.1-P)[3] svn ls file:///svn/freebsd/src/base/stable 2.0.5/ 2.1/ 2.2/ 3/ 4/ 5/ 6/ 7/ 8/ 9/ g1-227(9.1-P)[4] svn ls file:///svn/freebsd/src/base/head COPYRIGHT LOCKS MAINTAINERS Makefile Makefile.inc1 ObsoleteFiles.inc README UPDATING bin/ cddl/ contrib/ crypto/ etc/ games/ gnu/ include/ kerberos5/ lib/ libexec/ release/ rescue/ sbin/ secure/ share/ sys/ tools/ usr.bin/ usr.sbin/ g1-227(9.1-P)[5]=20 Does that help? > 2) Base /appears/ not to contain releng/9.1 or stable/8. How do I mirror > those? As shown above, they are there. Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --iRaAnoDFBoP0sW/E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlA4ugoACgkQmprOCmdXAD0OZACfZBLB8fVjuS0RgYdrXNQ2Ni0H ZkMAnidD0SAEx3szSKoLk0AZMXbW07lt =lDc4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --iRaAnoDFBoP0sW/E-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 25 14:04:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F021065674 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:04:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from axelbsd@ymail.com) Received: from nm15-vm0.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (nm15-vm0.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.183.252]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 898B68FC0C for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:04:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.146.183.213] by nm15.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Aug 2012 14:04:08 -0000 Received: from [77.238.184.80] by tm6.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Aug 2012 14:04:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp149.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Aug 2012 14:04:08 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s1024; t=1345903448; bh=s6k+DL8CxMH7lYbNHqn0dUS7w4mgwDMlJyyvGlgsGn4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Received:MIME-Version:Received:Received:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Cc:Content-Type; b=muGD5J5af8FzfddMUY9/svaRYbrnU2Y/9yoDek8D+xQLAInqpkb/Wi43NNXjD6MHgsrMZMVssGUs+TWgodMojPhf019fsyy7l9IT0VHg7Rsr/A5cm1cmcqjgeDhlBEj1JlRDXqPPy/Nbs7OLtYTzvPJlovDBkJRC7w0TxtC+AVo= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 135436.80752.bm@smtp149.mail.ukl.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: TgR5L4UVM1l90uN6uiSTo5jaKriZsSlT1MMRsgR9.r0RW5F jJ4ff3yEz6xnQASION7ZyFDuvSZBnZ6RiG.i.n6MWGdKqQg8iNQNJfsS7P75 iOCC2ijO5phXW7lSD9KRErZtIZ2I8AlWzWmL0TmvFgJRiVSCbEymOoBY1r2o goDN1b968cBcybs9PyeZiGFSv3HqxHfRmDT7eNMGDzV4KwiLdGfmPrEE223h 41tu054nId0bnJmnFRCSoSFOBGdRhW2pQeZVBKMWNJw0Fl.V7rR7U9fbN047 PA637Pn5fcKv8_.p4HD8UzyGRcixDjpijC1HAJi58gvNZwP_ozO9E6DJg.uW P_42ZVNzcT7ZQsg.tlXctTvy5PWMRfZe0BRy3VaEGzNOCbCQ4SND3 X-Yahoo-SMTP: S65s63SswBDjU54Gjqw2GSWlZmfgiEU_X3tN1_9u Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (axelbsd@209.85.217.182 with plain) by smtp149.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2012 14:04:07 +0000 GMT Received: by lbbgg13 with SMTP id gg13so1979201lbb.13 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 07:04:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.132.168 with SMTP id ov8mr9100267lab.0.1345903447346; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 07:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.23.102 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 07:04:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120825041357.GD1345@glenbarber.us> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20120825035543.GA25767@anubis.morrow.me.uk> <20120825041357.GD1345@glenbarber.us> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 16:04:07 +0200 Message-ID: From: Alexandre To: Glen Barber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:04:10 -0000 On Saturday, August 25, 2012, Glen Barber wrote: > On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 04:55:48AM +0100, Ben Morrow wrote: > > Quoth Ken Smith >: > > > > > > The latter. If you are not using FreeBSD-Update to handle the updates > > > of a machine you'll need to update your source tree using SVN for > > > release branches (releng/*) from now on. Updates of the CVS repository > > > will continue for the existing stable/* and head for now. I don't > think > > > anything has been decided on when that will stop. > > > > Two questions: > > > > 1. Is is sensible|supported to use freebsd-update to update just the src > > component, followed by a normal buildworld/buildkernel to update the > > rest of the system? I would much prefer to avoid having to use svn, > > especially given that it isn't in the base system. > > > > No. freebsd-update(8) is a binary system updater. It does not touch > your source tree. > > Glen > > Hi Glen, Freebsd-update tool installs binary updates for -RELEASE branch only (base system + GENERIC kernel). By default, /usr/src is synced. So you can upgrade your system and GENERIC kernel, then rebuild manually your custom kernel if you got one. This is described in the Handbook at the page "FreeBSD update". You do not have to SVN or CSUP your /usr/src sources tree after used freebsd-update tool. Regards, Alexandre From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 25 14:21:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93281065712 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CED8FC12 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:21:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7PEKfw3066594; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 07:20:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) From: Dennis Glatting To: David Wolfskill In-Reply-To: <20120825114203.GZ1537@albert.catwhisker.org> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <5036497F.7020501@icarz.com> <1345736581.27688.403.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <50384172.3090706@pingle.org> <1345871976.85365.3.camel@btw.pki2.com> <20120825114203.GZ1537@albert.catwhisker.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 07:20:41 -0700 Message-ID: <1345904441.85365.4.camel@btw.pki2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: q7PEKfw3066594 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: freebsd@pki2.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:21:22 -0000 On Sat, 2012-08-25 at 04:42 -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:19:36PM -0700, Dennis Glatting wrote: > > ... > > There are two things that I am confused about "base." > > > > 1) What, exactly, is base? When I do a co, what tree branch is that? > > Using CVS, failure to specify a tag would get you HEAD. > > Using SVN, failure to specify a branch will get you head. > > This may help. As noted previously, I have a local private mirror of > the FreeBSD SVN src repository located in /svn/freebsd/src/base; so: > > g1-227(9.1-P)[1] svn ls file:///svn/freebsd/src/base > ROADMAP.txt > cvs2svn/ > head/ > projects/ > release/ > releng/ > stable/ > svnadmin/ > user/ > vendor/ > vendor-crypto/ > vendor-sys/ > g1-227(9.1-P)[2] svn ls file:///svn/freebsd/src/base/releng > 2.0.5/ > 4.10/ > 4.11/ > 4.3/ > 4.4/ > 4.5/ > 4.6/ > 4.7/ > 4.8/ > 4.9/ > 5.0/ > 5.1/ > 5.2/ > 5.3/ > 5.4/ > 5.5/ > 6.0/ > 6.1/ > 6.2/ > 6.3/ > 6.4/ > 7.0/ > 7.1/ > 7.2/ > 7.3/ > 7.4/ > 8.0/ > 8.1/ > 8.2/ > 8.3/ > 9.0/ > 9.1/ > ALPHA_2_0/ > BETA_2_0/ > g1-227(9.1-P)[3] svn ls file:///svn/freebsd/src/base/stable > 2.0.5/ > 2.1/ > 2.2/ > 3/ > 4/ > 5/ > 6/ > 7/ > 8/ > 9/ > g1-227(9.1-P)[4] svn ls file:///svn/freebsd/src/base/head > COPYRIGHT > LOCKS > MAINTAINERS > Makefile > Makefile.inc1 > ObsoleteFiles.inc > README > UPDATING > bin/ > cddl/ > contrib/ > crypto/ > etc/ > games/ > gnu/ > include/ > kerberos5/ > lib/ > libexec/ > release/ > rescue/ > sbin/ > secure/ > share/ > sys/ > tools/ > usr.bin/ > usr.sbin/ > g1-227(9.1-P)[5] > > > Does that help? > > > 2) Base /appears/ not to contain releng/9.1 or stable/8. How do I mirror > > those? > > As shown above, they are there. > Thanks for the clue. > Peace, > david From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 25 14:47:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9892C1065690 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:47:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk.j.russell@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27DC78FC20 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wicr5 with SMTP id r5so1532010wic.13 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 07:47:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YQE90T8ojIyta0tyfR4/OFx2Ik9WwOuzi4igcbxx2C8=; b=oc5dyFXWGkJghSnafmgx0sl1qhnXL/HTMtkERaFHAxMu5wLCl17K/n8NUGXUwXXrbw m/dim3Z8oHmOCAixyFya0IMKL2qV1o7f2UB96OU06E2dtPwo3TwwzuSkLKvWOM+RiZur UYdCNVWEXt1OlYLSrI1O7WzFFUP8kikChnN3Iqw6l4adLzyubVTKJ+j/SN3zrA8t1IAH N6AbfFCddoVAzG6vgFAt/fTPG60FaiJbEa4/tnFT1vy7EBLM2hEfv5yETDHxzs+ORaHH 1ePEZtrKM3gRe3We6p5BN3tE2nZJskPvEFBTxSIATCto6+BE2Th2s88p2p8omwlbTcJQ woJg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.162.141 with SMTP id y13mr4333813wek.14.1345906073060; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 07:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Sender: kirk.j.russell@gmail.com Received: by 10.180.90.138 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 07:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:47:53 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: NwYf4fOExDI3B7ZZNDy5kg45QuU Message-ID: From: kirk russell To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: FreeBSD 9.1 RC1 and CAM issues with old SCSI drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kirk@ba23.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:47:54 -0000 Hi, I booted FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 on one of my older scratch i386 PCs and noticed this regression -- the SCSI disk is unusable: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 #0: Tue Aug 14 03:56:40 UTC 2012 root@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 ahc0: port 0x6400-0x64ff mem 0xd3000000-0xd3000fff irq 3 at device 13.0 on pci0 aic7880: Ultra Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/253 SCBs (probe0:ahc0:0:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 1 0 0 (probe0:ahc0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 (Invalid field in CDB) (probe0:ahc0:0:0:0): Command Specific Info: 0xffffffff (probe0:ahc0:0:0:0): Command byte 3 is invalid (probe0:ahc0:0:0:0): Error 22, Unretryable error [da0 never appears] This drive will be found with 9.0: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan 3 07:15:25 UTC 2012 root@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 ahc0: port 0x6400-0x64ff mem 0xd3000000-0xd3000fff irq 3 at device 13.0 on pci0 aic7880: Ultra Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/253 SCBs (probe0:ahc0:0:0:0): inquiry data fails comparison at DV1 step (probe0:ahc0:0:0:0): inquiry data fails comparison at DV1 step (probe0:ahc0:0:0:0): inquiry data fails comparison at DV1 step da0 at ahc0 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 6.600MB/s transfers (16bit) da0: Command Queueing enabled da0: 8678MB (17773500 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) That this drive is downgraded to 6.600MB/s appears to be known issue -- http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=128245 This appeared to work better with 6.1 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Mon May 29 19:39:51 EDT 2006 ahc1: port 0x9800-0x98ff mem 0xe3800000-0xe3800fff irq 11 at device 11.0 on pci0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8678MB (17773500 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) -- Kirk Russell http://www.ba23.org/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 25 15:16:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84220106564A for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Steve.Coles@mearsgroup.co.uk) Received: from mailhost.mearsgroup.co.uk (mailhost.mearsgroup.co.uk [212.2.26.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1908FC1B for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:16:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Dino.mearsgroup.co.uk (dino.mearsgroup.co.uk [192.168.3.10]) by mailhost.mearsgroup.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7PF0uBP031720 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 16:00:57 +0100 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated From: Steve Coles To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 16:00:55 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on DINO/Mears/UK(Release 8.5.1FP5|September 29, 2010) at 25/08/2012 16:00:57 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: AUTO: Steve Coles is out of the office (returning 03/09/2012) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:16:19 -0000 I am out of the office until 03/09/2012. 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Country of registration: England and Wales From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 25 16:51:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FB1106566B; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 16:51:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onyx.glenbarber.us (onyx.glenbarber.us [IPv6:2607:fc50:1000:c200::face]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09BE98FC0A; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 16:51:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from glenbarber.us (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:8:1205:2:2:0:24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gjb) by onyx.glenbarber.us (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0C7A823F641; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 12:51:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 12:51:32 -0400 From: Glen Barber To: Alexandre Message-ID: <20120825165132.GB1655@glenbarber.us> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20120825035543.GA25767@anubis.morrow.me.uk> <20120825041357.GD1345@glenbarber.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 16:51:36 -0000 --mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 04:04:07PM +0200, Alexandre wrote: > > No. freebsd-update(8) is a binary system updater. It does not touch > > your source tree. > > >=20 > Freebsd-update tool installs binary updates for -RELEASE branch only (base > system + GENERIC kernel). By default, /usr/src is synced. So you can > upgrade your system and GENERIC kernel, then rebuild manually your custom > kernel if you got one. This is described in the Handbook at the page > "FreeBSD update". > You do not have to SVN or CSUP your /usr/src sources tree after used > freebsd-update tool. >=20 You're right, my mistake. I meant to remove that last sentence after realizing this. Sorry for the confusion. Glen --mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJQOQKUAAoJEFJPDDeguUaj80AIAKHKz0pS4FKs8Mbm4BhvGTk0 qxucoMEcisvgZSMDD3qwfv1s9kkeOCneMUAUTgZ1rI2JCds981GjaYmgvqyu2WIG KZRJ2wwLBeE8nMHF82/S3fIaSeolJ8u5ZHwtdmvmVgmx6J326l1FC48+rMQShJRa k8fJS4zJdzxtOre3GOnSQAAaAYtu+WCcelYiyFLWV4IpG0Xkx0xaxOiDI6ZAC+Cp 5fc2ctYPV3HH/5BrCoODpN4NicfKVT2/AsanmBfQGmX1fyWki6vDECfzyO+iaMJL JZAJFEpzu7dVie+dD3z0IkgroZP71rUgdlzN0+F5vP1sbGs5V2e46aH9cmXCwYo= =9HMD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 25 18:29:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28C81065676; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 18:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from emx.nitro.dk (leto.nitro.dk [178.63.52.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755B08FC1C; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 18:29:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailscan.leto.nitro.dk (mailscan.leto.nitro.dk [127.0.1.4]) by emx.nitro.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A972BCDB3; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 18:29:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emx.nitro.dk ([127.0.1.2]) by mailscan.leto.nitro.dk (mailscan.leto.nitro.dk [127.0.1.4]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id rVA92YSC8hPi; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 18:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.4.28] (unknown [89.100.2.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by emx.nitro.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ADC602BCDA1; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 18:29:18 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: "Simon L. B. Nielsen" In-Reply-To: <3E419978-37B5-434B-BB54-A4C069A9A887@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 19:29:17 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <86A0E830-2406-4783-9700-F1FD51C9DD0D@FreeBSD.org> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <3E419978-37B5-434B-BB54-A4C069A9A887@FreeBSD.org> To: "Simon L. B. Nielsen" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) Cc: Ken Smith , freebsd-stable , re , Ian Smith , Peter Wemm Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 18:29:22 -0000 On 23 Aug 2012, at 22:52, "Simon L. B. Nielsen" = wrote: >=20 > On 23 Aug 2012, at 20:41, Peter Wemm wrote: >>>> On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:46 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has = been >>>>> decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So >>>>> csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to = 9.1-RC1. >>>>> If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1. >> * RIght now you can mirror >> svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/{stable/9,release/9.1*,etc} to your = laptop, >> and Simon is setting up a US-east coast and US-west coast mirror. = You >> can easily switch your mirrors on the fly if there's a closer/faster >> one. >=20 > Real world got in the way, but they should be ready by Friday or = Saturday, and will be documented in the Handbook. Mirrors are now running and documented: = http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/mirrors-svn.html I'm still doing some final tweaks so there might be some shorter outages = over the weekend, but it should be < 1m issues. PS. also, if anyone are access http://svn.FreeBSD.org/ you are in fact = now using svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org, to avoid having to run apache on the = main svn server, so - you might as well use the mirror directly and = avoid going through netcat... --=20 Simon L. B. Nielsen Hat: FreeBSD.org admins team