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Date:      Sun, 22 Jan 2012 14:25:26 -0500
From:      David Schultz <das@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        Andriy Gapon <avg@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        theraven@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-standards@FreeBSD.ORG, python@FreeBSD.ORG, gogo@cs.uni-sb.de
Subject:   Re: pyconfig.h and freebsd10: _POSIX_C_SOURCE and _XOPEN_SOURCE
Message-ID:  <20120122192526.GA52071@zim.MIT.EDU>
In-Reply-To: <4F1AAA75.5050500@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <4F1AAA75.5050500@FreeBSD.org>

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On Sat, Jan 21, 2012, Andriy Gapon wrote:
> 
> It seems that python27's pyconfig.h (artificially?) limits visibility of system
> APIs by setting _POSIX_C_SOURCE to 200112L and _XOPEN_SOURCE to 600.
> This might not actually change much for earlier FreeBSD versions.
> 
> But in FreeBSD 10 we now have interfaces from POSIX 200809, specifically some
> things that are then used by xlocale.h.
> 
> Now take an example of py-lxml port.  It depends on both libxslt and python
> (obviously).  libxslt doesn't have any limitations in POSIX interfaces that it
> uses, so it detects xlocale.h and uses it.  xlocale.h depends on definition of
> locale_t in locale.h.  But since locale_t has been introduced in POSIX 2008 its
> declaration is under __POSIX_VISIBLE >= 200809.  And because of pyconfig.h,
> py-lxml build doesn't see locale_t and so the build fails.
> 
> This is probably an issue that the upstream should also consider.
> 
> Having briefly looked at python27's configure script I wonder if we should set
> define_xopen_source=no for FreeBSD 10 (like it has been done for FreeBSD/4.*).
> 
> But in general I am not sure why python has to limit itself to those levels of
> interfaces (_POSIX_C_SOURCE 200112L and _XOPEN_SOURCE 600).
> 
> Thoughts, ideas, suggestions?
> Thank you!

Technically it's a problem with python.  If you ask for a strict
POSIX environment (doesn't matter what version) and also #include
a non-POSIX header, there's no guarantee about what you'll get.
I've CC'd the xlocale author in case he wants to comment or
voluntarily make xlocale work in an otherwise strict POSIX
environment, but that's not officially supported.



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