From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 7 08:55:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380CD751; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 08:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C29EE1B0D; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 08:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r678tEAE052367 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 7 Jul 2013 09:55:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <51D92CE8.5050504@fjl.co.uk> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 09:55:04 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block Subject: Re: Fixing the man page for renice References: <51D7FE78.8050006@fjl.co.uk> <20130706152811.GJ20631@glenbarber.us> <51D845F6.1040402@fjl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: Glen Barber , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 08:55:18 -0000 On 06/07/2013 22:19, Warren Block wrote: > On Sat, 6 Jul 2013, Frank Leonhardt wrote: >> On 06/07/2013 16:28, Glen Barber wrote: >> >> Thanks Glen - the "patch" business is what's putting me off! I'm sure >> once I've done it, nothing will stop me. Is there a page or *really >> simple* guide to doing it, that assumes nothing? > > Assuming the source in is /usr/src: > cd /usr/src/usr.bin/renice > cp renice.8 renice.8.orig > > Edit the new version as desired. When done, > cd /usr/src > diff -u usr.bin/renice/renice.8.orig usr.bin/renice/renice.8 > > ~/renice.diff > > This is a bit easier if you use Subversion to check out the source. > >> I'm tempted to re-write the whole lot, but I'm successfully resisting. > > The use of asides, "the affected processes will run only when nothing > else in the system wants to", and "administrative fiats" make me > twitchy. It seems more complicated than necessary and could stand > with some clarity improvements. Thank you so much for the "idiot's guide". It's exactly what I needed for the first time around. As to the language style, I was also worrying about things like "...can only monotonically increase...", but perhaps my memories of calculus are sub-par and it'd be as clear as day to the rest of the world. I'm inclined to do a radical rewrite and a tweak and post them both here for the list to decide. Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 7 13:15:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78B7FD0; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 13:15:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 772FA1469; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 13:15:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r67CtPh0049329; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 06:55:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r67CtOXl049326; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 06:55:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 06:55:24 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Frank Leonhardt Subject: Re: Fixing the man page for renice In-Reply-To: <51D92CE8.5050504@fjl.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <51D7FE78.8050006@fjl.co.uk> <20130706152811.GJ20631@glenbarber.us> <51D845F6.1040402@fjl.co.uk> <51D92CE8.5050504@fjl.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="3512871622-2040356913-1373201725=:49310" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 07 Jul 2013 06:55:25 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Glen Barber , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 13:15:55 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --3512871622-2040356913-1373201725=:49310 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sun, 7 Jul 2013, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > On 06/07/2013 22:19, Warren Block wrote: > On Sat, 6 Jul 2013, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > On 06/07/2013 16:28, Glen Barber wrote: > > Thanks Glen - the "patch" business is what's putting me off! I'm sure once I've done it, nothing will stop me. Is there a page or *really simple* guide to doing > it, that assumes nothing? > > > Assuming the source in is /usr/src: >   cd /usr/src/usr.bin/renice >   cp renice.8 renice.8.orig > > Edit the new version as desired.  When done, >   cd /usr/src >   diff -u usr.bin/renice/renice.8.orig usr.bin/renice/renice.8 > ~/renice.diff > > This is a bit easier if you use Subversion to check out the source. > > I'm tempted to re-write the whole lot, but I'm successfully resisting. > > > The use of asides, "the affected processes will run only when nothing else in the system wants to", and "administrative fiats" make me twitchy.  It seems more complicated > than necessary and could stand with some clarity improvements. > > > Thank you so much for the "idiot's guide". It's exactly what I needed for the first time around. I should have mentioned that the one to edit is renice.8, but maybe it was clear. If Subversion was used to check out the source, just edit that file. When done, produce a patch with cd /usr/src svn diff usr.bin/renice/renice.8 > ~/renice.8.diff Also, mdoc(7) is the reference for the mdoc macros. Sadly, we don't have anything about it in the FDP Primer. > As to the language style, I was also worrying about things like "...can only monotonically increase...", but perhaps my memories of calculus are sub-par and it'd be as clear as day to > the rest of the world. I'm inclined to do a radical rewrite and a tweak and post them both here for the list to decide. That would be great! Thanks! --3512871622-2040356913-1373201725=:49310-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 7 15:19:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35939652; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 15:19:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ea0-x235.google.com (mail-ea0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c01::235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9708B1861; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 15:19:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f181.google.com with SMTP id a15so2442501eae.12 for ; Sun, 07 Jul 2013 08:19:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bt5g6PaXVRbbG/VkkV7my/rOvJ5Mem8TNwZT1kNXG44=; b=Q8baj0rDmj9IblLJjJUqg55GQdpqbQcLGEKS3cSIOmDzM4k2ee5yKw4UOKNxubgg1n uH4n8m7hGgtLQroWam1JHJccBDA4x2xXomns868DOxnlCgnRMGjUKxHMMZqRMqSrBOW1 JLBPxNkgk1WibJa2vkIHxcZY00I4xSOu8JJc1MHWyJGzLmYwthTqrvKsuz6vIRV55xH5 vx8kRNzGdusX6SZUUNPysGlyq39eqDaknPHQq9ElFkK6DMcEZHhwcV41tjUPH3CP4E8j lJSU+z15/fOoTl9lREl2U4mP03QU+/U0wOWpozznVeSA4vOL65afakf8k/HVnJT9KaMh +Mgw== X-Received: by 10.14.47.73 with SMTP id s49mr21059275eeb.71.1373210375633; Sun, 07 Jul 2013 08:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.123.167] (136-206-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl. [88.159.206.136]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bj46sm33753970eeb.13.2013.07.07.08.19.33 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 07 Jul 2013 08:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Sender: =?UTF-8?Q?Ren=C3=A9_Ladan?= Message-ID: <51D98705.4070403@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 17:19:33 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Ladan?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130701 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gabor Kovesdan Subject: Re: [CFT] merging projects/entities References: <51D7F70B.8000206@freebsd.org> <51D83F92.7030808@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <51D83F92.7030808@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FBSD Doc project X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 15:19:37 -0000 On 06-07-2013 18:02, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > Em 06-07-2013 12:52, René Ladan escreveu: >> To test, you can either check out doc/projects/entities or doc/head and >> apply the patch at [1]. After that, run 'make' in en_US.ISO8859-1/ or >> 'make WEB_ONLY=yes ENGLISH_ONLY=yes' in en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/ as >> usual. >> >> [1]ftp://rene-ladan.nl/pub/freebsd/entities-r42173.diff >> SHA256 = >> d6685fb654e9624f2e733fa7feb852515c2aed566150f588359fb89bbf72e2b3 >> SIZE = 423519 > There are indentation-only changes in share/xml/catalog.xml. These > parts shouldn't be changed or at least not with other changes if you > want to improve them. Also, the real changes seem to be a bit messy, > there are duplicated entries and some commented out ones and all of > this intermixed with indentation changes so it is hard to see the > overall effect. This file should be reviewed. > I indeed committed a white-space only change here, r40263. Should I also change this in head/ or revert this commit and worry about white-space later? > As for the email element, it doesn't logically belong to HTML so it > shouldn't have the XHTML namespace. Actually, it is borrowed from > DocBook, which doesn't have a namespace up to version 4.5. In turn, > DocBook 5.0 has its own namespace. So I suggest to leave the email > element in the empty namespace for now and with the DB 5.0 migration > it will go to the DocBook namespace. For this, you also need to modify > share/xml/xhtml.xsl and remove the namespace prefix in the match > attribute: > Do you mean that the email declarations in share/xml/authors.ent should be removed again? For clarity I would prefer this, but this (and the email XSLT templates) seem necessary to get &a.committer.email; working in both the articles/books and webpages, and for the latter it removes the need to write the cumbersome "&a.committer; <committer@FreeBSD.org>" (in head, with &a.committer pulled in from the removed share/xml/developers.ent) as "&a.committer.email;" suffices. > + > + < > + > + > + > + > + > + > + > + mailto: > + > + > + > + > + > + > + > > + > > And with this change, this part becomes redundant: > > --- share/xsl/freebsd-xhtml-common.xsl > (svn+ssh://svn.freebsd.org/doc/projects/entities) (working copy) > +++ svn+ssh://svn.freebsd.org/doc/projects/entities (revision 42173) > @@ -6,6 +6,7 @@ > version='1.0' > xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/transitional" > xmlns:str="http://exslt.org/strings" > + xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" > extension-element-prefixes="str" > exclude-result-prefixes="#default"> > > @@ -162,6 +163,27 @@ > > > > + > + > + > If it works, shorter XSLT files are fine with me. > The rest looks fine, thanks for your work on this! > Thanks, René From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 7 15:27:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF406C4; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 15:27:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D74CD1883; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 15:27:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A9814D2431; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 17:27:29 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id eSrElzsbXikY; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 17:27:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (54034B4D.catv.pool.telekom.hu [84.3.75.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 50CB914D2400; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 17:27:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51D988DE.2050600@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 17:27:26 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/22.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Ladan?= Subject: Re: [CFT] merging projects/entities References: <51D7F70B.8000206@freebsd.org> <51D83F92.7030808@FreeBSD.org> <51D98705.4070403@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <51D98705.4070403@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FBSD Doc project X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 15:27:32 -0000 Em 07-07-2013 17:19, René Ladan escreveu: > Do you mean that the email declarations in share/xml/authors.ent should > be removed again? For clarity I would prefer this, but this (and the > email XSLT templates) seem necessary to get > &a.committer.email; working in both the articles/books and webpages, > and for the latter it removes the need to write the cumbersome > "&a.committer; < href="mailto:committer@FreeBSD.org">committer@FreeBSD.org>" > (in head, with &a.committer pulled in from the removed > share/xml/developers.ent) as > "&a.committer.email;" suffices. No, I'm talking about the XML namespace. The xmlns=... part should be removed completely from email and this should also be reflected in the XHTML renderer XSLT, that is, email instead of xhtml:email. In turn, the template can be totally removed from the DocBook XSLT since DocBook handles properly the email element in the default (empty) namespace. Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 7 15:51:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C30EEDE; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 15:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-x22e.google.com (mail-ee0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c00::22e]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF53D1935; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 15:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f46.google.com with SMTP id d41so2283155eek.19 for ; Sun, 07 Jul 2013 08:51:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4JWKOriITPpi4eqvd4g4WWbAQc7UPEMQe6pURrIilrU=; b=dw3656SfgJ7b3+go6+EVmQQTG9mFrgmw9zc6XVexKV0T/xOtd/5PqAtgJVToKieSGX uPqGYbVrLfgkVktrCy1LI5z0Av3GcGBd+ScIWlvRwM+TEXYSlCb7MsDwxgyA90sG15MI cNYdzsDH1gZDUCrJ43Jx6SqowWEMxpvPEepoHAuE0dkRUzsa/REUzu9Iv/6GQsIcP5+K ts/btrMxY17trjc2lP2ePmBvCYhSM+jA3qKIYc6M7yOaol01NkxrbUD1/n3orKuYwgS6 iGfFFuelVyry7X4RJz1shC5V9Sn8m618dS9fGTze7HTD9/Fw8weZUAYHwyrMo1ofTeWH /rWg== X-Received: by 10.15.102.68 with SMTP id bq44mr21029045eeb.89.1373212271698; Sun, 07 Jul 2013 08:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.123.167] (136-206-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl. [88.159.206.136]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id m1sm33953726eex.17.2013.07.07.08.51.10 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 07 Jul 2013 08:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Sender: =?UTF-8?Q?Ren=C3=A9_Ladan?= Message-ID: <51D98E6D.2060306@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 17:51:09 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Ladan?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130701 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gabor Kovesdan Subject: Re: [CFT] merging projects/entities References: <51D7F70B.8000206@freebsd.org> <51D83F92.7030808@FreeBSD.org> <51D98705.4070403@freebsd.org> <51D988DE.2050600@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <51D988DE.2050600@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FBSD Doc project X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 15:51:13 -0000 On 07-07-2013 17:27, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > Em 07-07-2013 17:19, René Ladan escreveu: >> Do you mean that the email declarations in share/xml/authors.ent should >> be removed again? For clarity I would prefer this, but this (and the >> email XSLT templates) seem necessary to get >> &a.committer.email; working in both the articles/books and webpages, >> and for the latter it removes the need to write the cumbersome >> "&a.committer; <> href="mailto:committer@FreeBSD.org">committer@FreeBSD.org>" >> (in head, with &a.committer pulled in from the removed >> share/xml/developers.ent) as >> "&a.committer.email;" suffices. > No, I'm talking about the XML namespace. The xmlns=... part should be > removed completely from email and this should also be reflected in the > XHTML renderer XSLT, that is, email instead of xhtml:email. In turn, > the template can be totally removed from the DocBook XSLT since > DocBook handles properly the email element in the default (empty) > namespace. > Hm, if I understand correctly, these changes lose the role='nolink' functionality in DocBook (i.e. there is now always a clickable link) and for XHTML they results in build errors: namespace warning : Namespace default prefix was not found &a.tabthorpe; tabthorpe@FreeBSD.org ^ Diff at http://people.freebsd.org/~rene/entities-gabor.diff René From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 7 16:34:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D07D94; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 16:34:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54111AF8; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 16:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C10414D242E; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 18:34:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id UrJQFS3BUcDS; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 18:34:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (54034B4D.catv.pool.telekom.hu [84.3.75.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C8E3D14D2400; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 18:34:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51D99892.3000905@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 18:34:26 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/22.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Ladan?= Subject: Re: [CFT] merging projects/entities References: <51D7F70B.8000206@freebsd.org> <51D83F92.7030808@FreeBSD.org> <51D98705.4070403@freebsd.org> <51D988DE.2050600@FreeBSD.org> <51D98E6D.2060306@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <51D98E6D.2060306@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FBSD Doc project X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 16:34:40 -0000 Em 07-07-2013 17:51, René Ladan escreveu: > Hm, if I understand correctly, these changes lose the role='nolink' > functionality in DocBook (i.e. there is now always a clickable link) and > for XHTML they results in build errors: > > namespace warning : Namespace default prefix was not found > &a.tabthorpe; tabthorpe@FreeBSD.org > Sorry, I missed the role attribute. The namespace should have been xmlns="". This patch seems to solve both problems and works fine: http://kovesdan.org/patches/email-entities.diff Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 7 16:53:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E224E9; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 16:53:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ea0-x235.google.com (mail-ea0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c01::235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001A61BC9; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 16:53:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f181.google.com with SMTP id a15so2462405eae.40 for ; Sun, 07 Jul 2013 09:53:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+IX43Wl7gJiim6fY6ItvRBl2df/NnwKxj5RSBagTfF0=; b=HkK4sZCADA3Znjp/Oe1Mh4RkromMDdr8Pl85C5qP4odyhCpvyVJPgLO/Wge3+nSrS4 +zH3IxmDxK6/RbWTIx4gkPKduvca9nH9Wfd/k9HNh4rpKW25xxdEJY/xj+J4LnR3phu9 QhifxP8s3Jd11tjrsLNPyPbiLpqH/GAuJzY/hBdM6WiZ2QstR+sF02YiMBjh+sjORrim Z4vMCeU7JMcDT6PmAQvUkWhu2x6KvTX3t1fMoYZLUV1zdC+6i7z/KUed1nXdrBI/cfn0 9al5fYty9u/Ukb+cDVxncyBX0rSeRSPvGgukhG9+wZLXtUcR9JrWIRqgLEtUp3vlNTRY YF+g== X-Received: by 10.14.100.135 with SMTP id z7mr21103925eef.113.1373216010120; Sun, 07 Jul 2013 09:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.123.167] (136-206-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl. [88.159.206.136]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id cg12sm34518590eeb.7.2013.07.07.09.53.28 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 07 Jul 2013 09:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Sender: =?UTF-8?Q?Ren=C3=A9_Ladan?= Message-ID: <51D99D07.1070808@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 18:53:27 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Ladan?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130701 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gabor Kovesdan Subject: Re: [CFT] merging projects/entities References: <51D7F70B.8000206@freebsd.org> <51D83F92.7030808@FreeBSD.org> <51D98705.4070403@freebsd.org> <51D988DE.2050600@FreeBSD.org> <51D98E6D.2060306@freebsd.org> <51D99892.3000905@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <51D99892.3000905@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FBSD Doc project X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 16:53:31 -0000 On 07-07-2013 18:34, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > Em 07-07-2013 17:51, René Ladan escreveu: >> Hm, if I understand correctly, these changes lose the role='nolink' >> functionality in DocBook (i.e. there is now always a clickable link) and >> for XHTML they results in build errors: >> >> namespace warning : Namespace default prefix was not found >> &a.tabthorpe; tabthorpe@FreeBSD.org >> > Sorry, I missed the role attribute. The namespace should have been > xmlns="". This patch seems to solve both problems and works fine: > http://kovesdan.org/patches/email-entities.diff > Almost there, but using a nolink email address in htdocs fails with the same error as above. Maybe share/xml/xhtml10-freebsd.dtd is the wrong file to add this? René From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 7 18:45:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB11E66; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 18:45:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4CC1FF2; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 18:45:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045D214D242E; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 20:45:23 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 5fZI5AOImbco; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 20:45:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (54034B4D.catv.pool.telekom.hu [84.3.75.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 69EF814D2400; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 20:45:22 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51D9B744.8040004@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 20:45:24 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/22.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Ladan?= Subject: Re: [CFT] merging projects/entities References: <51D7F70B.8000206@freebsd.org> <51D83F92.7030808@FreeBSD.org> <51D98705.4070403@freebsd.org> <51D988DE.2050600@FreeBSD.org> <51D98E6D.2060306@freebsd.org> <51D99892.3000905@FreeBSD.org> <51D99D07.1070808@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <51D99D07.1070808@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FBSD Doc project X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 18:45:25 -0000 Em 07-07-2013 18:53, René Ladan escreveu: >> Sorry, I missed the role attribute. The namespace should have been >> >xmlns="". This patch seems to solve both problems and works fine: >> >http://kovesdan.org/patches/email-entities.diff >> > > Almost there, but using a nolink email address in htdocs fails with the > same error as above. Maybe share/xml/xhtml10-freebsd.dtd is the wrong > file to add this? Just forgot to patch those with sed. Patch updated. Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 7 19:00:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86BAA25; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 19:00:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x236.google.com (mail-wi0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DBC10A4; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 19:00:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f182.google.com with SMTP id m6so3334569wiv.9 for ; Sun, 07 Jul 2013 12:00:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=y7uvsPfnBE8UR3Cod0Sb30uqaphLcpUmgXgv+8/6ND0=; b=TIuczpBrJ2K9A4VwASFElxu6ed5vuK02KtWKtnFLh0tHlDKK2VJxlU7x9Uvh/VmcnM Zj9RpzXI9amO/Pwu/mn/6/s5q5ikrUbVtKL8ub8q7CjU11tqXdzXfi91Fjz0nfYsWIXc oeY5JLlbve38CbbXk1oXFIQF/aJtYAxZ6VY3haYhgMlnmy1Pwe6iKfl0oLuoLjMm6k0l kxLnw53LG35/FZeUHKuCf8LkWsP24Gepk2GlIpZnc6QYTaFQbCQgEkSSB/XK5wQaRRio OnlmNngDOi078Uhrdd18nWxQcy9uLvvAtZACnV3EmUV4csFLRnWyYvLHrzz0Er0GDS0T wIKg== X-Received: by 10.181.12.10 with SMTP id em10mr9956632wid.14.1373223635148; Sun, 07 Jul 2013 12:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.123.167] (136-206-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl. [88.159.206.136]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o10sm19742431wiz.5.2013.07.07.12.00.33 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 07 Jul 2013 12:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Sender: =?UTF-8?Q?Ren=C3=A9_Ladan?= Message-ID: <51D9BAD0.6000904@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 21:00:32 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Ladan?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130701 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gabor Kovesdan Subject: Re: [CFT] merging projects/entities References: <51D7F70B.8000206@freebsd.org> <51D83F92.7030808@FreeBSD.org> <51D98705.4070403@freebsd.org> <51D988DE.2050600@FreeBSD.org> <51D98E6D.2060306@freebsd.org> <51D99892.3000905@FreeBSD.org> <51D99D07.1070808@freebsd.org> <51D9B744.8040004@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <51D9B744.8040004@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FBSD Doc project X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 19:00:36 -0000 On 07-07-2013 20:45, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > Em 07-07-2013 18:53, René Ladan escreveu: >>> Sorry, I missed the role attribute. The namespace should have been >>> >xmlns="". This patch seems to solve both problems and works fine: >>> >http://kovesdan.org/patches/email-entities.diff >>> > >> Almost there, but using a nolink email address in htdocs fails with the >> same error as above. Maybe share/xml/xhtml10-freebsd.dtd is the wrong >> file to add this? > Just forgot to patch those with sed. Patch updated. > Heh, missed that myself too. So now only tidying up or synchronizing whitespace for share/xml/catalog.xml remains to be done? René From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 7 20:14:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070D97B9; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 20:14:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36C1134E; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 20:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C8B14D242E; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 22:14:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id PVxWuOZnJewP; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 22:14:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (54034B4D.catv.pool.telekom.hu [84.3.75.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EF4DA14D2400; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 22:14:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51D9CC30.7090604@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 22:14:40 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/22.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Ladan?= Subject: Re: [CFT] merging projects/entities References: <51D7F70B.8000206@freebsd.org> <51D83F92.7030808@FreeBSD.org> <51D98705.4070403@freebsd.org> <51D988DE.2050600@FreeBSD.org> <51D98E6D.2060306@freebsd.org> <51D99892.3000905@FreeBSD.org> <51D99D07.1070808@freebsd.org> <51D9B744.8040004@FreeBSD.org> <51D9BAD0.6000904@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <51D9BAD0.6000904@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FBSD Doc project X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 20:14:42 -0000 Em 07-07-2013 21:00, René Ladan escreveu: > Heh, missed that myself too. So now only tidying up or synchronizing > whitespace for share/xml/catalog.xml remains to be done? Personally, I think it would be better to commit that whitespace fix separately. Even if you committed it separately in the branch, it would go to head intermixed with real changes, which makes it hard to read the backlog. This is a disadvantage in general and it is quite a big hassle for translators. I think you did it fine since you didn't have to foresee these consequences but maybe we should document it as a best practice to avoid whitespace changes in branches. Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 7 22:24:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67084F0A; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 22:24:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-x234.google.com (mail-ee0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c00::234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8553195E; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 22:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f52.google.com with SMTP id c50so2491696eek.11 for ; Sun, 07 Jul 2013 15:24:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Dve7rhM2dwLT25Bdnp2cdiIkh1ywdJqF+YI7i7hsG7I=; b=Nsz6uH/6kvLUZmjIHVJHYUEazYMTFXGyZGbhxC7LOc0//I9GVr88Wn+KsCdHn0fbkN waS5hWrV3/6fk7D9pLHQjIixWLdWkEkmwrWydTB2WOfTASbfUdxXw6WqW8T1+yNMUq5X cmWX9H2IZe+8ChBzemRIIMOBm2V1Xa95gpI0V85kRP6rzqirrCklXyxH6pxn6kxrryKi qOW0RdGkT5LHfY7QGF6JwK+HKJaJJOpXTqzMKS+PgpfQ/0B600rMOb0QlyGQj4MQXCev 6vlwurL5zk6IDY35r76o2nBvp3NuJ6zHV7EqaQ4BXdfVPrdJCuUM5RDm0tJ88FIYOWy5 g00A== X-Received: by 10.14.47.73 with SMTP id s49mr22124828eeb.71.1373235888939; Sun, 07 Jul 2013 15:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:980:d7ed:1:7d41:3373:c2c3:78ab? ([2001:980:d7ed:1:7d41:3373:c2c3:78ab]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a4sm37036169eez.0.2013.07.07.15.24.47 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 07 Jul 2013 15:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Sender: =?UTF-8?Q?Ren=C3=A9_Ladan?= Message-ID: <51D9EAAE.6070509@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 00:24:46 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Ladan?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130701 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gabor Kovesdan Subject: Re: [CFT] merging projects/entities References: <51D7F70B.8000206@freebsd.org> <51D83F92.7030808@FreeBSD.org> <51D98705.4070403@freebsd.org> <51D988DE.2050600@FreeBSD.org> <51D98E6D.2060306@freebsd.org> <51D99892.3000905@FreeBSD.org> <51D99D07.1070808@freebsd.org> <51D9B744.8040004@FreeBSD.org> <51D9BAD0.6000904@freebsd.org> <51D9CC30.7090604@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <51D9CC30.7090604@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FBSD Doc project X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 22:24:50 -0000 On 07-07-2013 22:14, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > Em 07-07-2013 21:00, René Ladan escreveu: >> Heh, missed that myself too. So now only tidying up or synchronizing >> whitespace for share/xml/catalog.xml remains to be done? > Personally, I think it would be better to commit that whitespace fix > separately. Even if you committed it separately in the branch, it > would go to head intermixed with real changes, which makes it hard to > read the backlog. This is a disadvantage in general and it is quite a > big hassle for translators. I think you did it fine since you didn't > have to foresee these consequences but maybe we should document it as > a best practice to avoid whitespace changes in branches. > I didn't think it through this far, but you're right. I think it's best to write this down somewhere in the FDP? For now this is fixed in head (r42191, whitespace-only forward commit) and in projects/entities (r42192, fix some inadvertent changes). The only changes left are those from r40196, which are intended (modulo inline whitespace :-( ). René From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 8 07:31:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CB7513; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 07:31:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DEF11D4A; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 07:31:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBA414D242F; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 09:31:24 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id FNznnVaZz_oL; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 09:31:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (54034B4D.catv.pool.telekom.hu [84.3.75.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D872514D242C; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 09:31:20 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51DA6AC8.3050902@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 09:31:20 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/22.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Ladan?= Subject: Re: [CFT] merging projects/entities References: <51D7F70B.8000206@freebsd.org> <51D83F92.7030808@FreeBSD.org> <51D98705.4070403@freebsd.org> <51D988DE.2050600@FreeBSD.org> <51D98E6D.2060306@freebsd.org> <51D99892.3000905@FreeBSD.org> <51D99D07.1070808@freebsd.org> <51D9B744.8040004@FreeBSD.org> <51D9BAD0.6000904@freebsd.org> <51D9CC30.7090604@FreeBSD.org> <51D9EAAE.6070509@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <51D9EAAE.6070509@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FBSD Doc project X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 07:31:27 -0000 Em 08-07-2013 00:24, René Ladan escreveu: > I didn't think it through this far, but you're right. I think it's best > to write this down somewhere in the FDP? That sounds to be a good place for this. I believe this is not really important for the src tree so no need to put it into committers-guide. > > For now this is fixed in head (r42191, whitespace-only forward commit) > and in > projects/entities (r42192, fix some inadvertent changes). The only > changes left are > those from r40196, which are intended (modulo inline whitespace:-( ). I think it's fine. At least you have reduced the differences and have made it easier to read the diffs. Next time we can count with this factor. Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 8 11:41:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE4E591 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 11:41:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3F115D8 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 11:41:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r68BeXgm053981 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 11:41:12 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r68B63fG045564 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 11:06:03 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 11:06:03 GMT Message-Id: <201307081106.r68B63fG045564@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 11:41:12 -0000 (Note: an HTML version of this report is available at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?category=doc .) The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o docs/180332 doc SSD Kernel Instructions Out of Date: options MFS throw o docs/180331 doc SSD Kernel Instructions Out of Date: options MD_ROOT a o docs/180330 doc SSD Kernel Instructions Out of Date: pseudo-device no o docs/180289 doc [patch] suggest bsdinstall and portsnap for installati o docs/180027 doc Missing man page entries for callout_reset_sbt in time o docs/179988 doc [faq] [patch] ThwackAFAQ - sandbox p docs/179914 doc remove inactive user dougb from mergemaster maintainer o docs/179832 doc manual page of mac_from_text suggests incorrect freein o docs/179697 doc Handbook incomplete WRT Opera flash usage (linproc) o docs/179560 doc [handbook] brazilian portuguese translation to "DTrace o docs/179552 doc [handbook] brazilian portuguese translation to "Instal o docs/179541 doc [handbook] brazilian portuguese translation to "Obtain o docs/179497 doc [patch] service.8 add csh completion example o docs/179246 doc [patch] gnome porting updates o docs/178818 doc gmirror(8) says to use rc.early which is no longer ava o docs/178730 doc move roff papers out of src into doc o docs/178677 doc *** [article.html] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc. o docs/178286 doc [PATCH] document the LOCAL_* vars in build(7) o docs/178221 doc Addition to handbook jails chapter: warning about make o www/178190 doc myths web page should be updated o docs/178119 doc [ports] Porter's handbook lacks examples for using Opt o docs/178077 doc [patch] Correct description of -webnfs in exports.5 o docs/177968 doc bpf(4): documentation of BIOCROTZBUF is incomplete o docs/177699 doc Documentation (handbook and manpage) for mac_biba does o docs/177514 doc [handbook] ZFS examples do not cover dataset creation o docs/177457 doc diskinfo(8): diskinfo -v shows inacurate drive size o docs/177431 doc Handbook & Announcements recommend poor dd options for o docs/177429 doc dd(1) man page is unclear about semantics of conv=sync o docs/177215 doc [handbook] [patch] FreeBSD uses SHA512 and no more MD5 o docs/177056 doc typo in link in handbook section 31.4.16 o docs/176806 doc recv(2) man page grammatical fixes o docs/176648 doc restore(8) man page is misleading/confusing o docs/176645 doc The example in netmap.4 is wrong o docs/176583 doc getifaddrs(3) - struct ifa_data not exist o docs/176363 doc Remove mention of 'CVSup' from "Mirroring FreeBSD arti o docs/176355 doc Attribution and correction of quote in fortune o docs/176251 doc FreeBSD Handbook assumes too much pre-knowledge o docs/176127 doc [handbook] add information about all missing mailing l o docs/176125 doc missing summary of freebsd-jail mailing list o docs/176123 doc missing summary of freebsd-sysinstall mailing list o docs/176015 doc [handbook] wrong order in docs for major upgrade o docs/175995 doc Setting MALLOC_PRODUCTION stops buildworld o docs/175983 doc man zfs are missing "hold, release" from "zfs allow" o docs/175712 doc Update 'disk naming' handbook page o docs/175687 doc pthread_setschedparam(3) may fail for undocumented rea o docs/175560 doc ugen(4) man page contains incorrect device node path o docs/175239 doc sem_wait can be interrupted o docs/175123 doc [geom] gpart list/status isn't documented in usage sec o docs/174868 doc mount(2) doesn't do a good job at describing all possi o docs/174792 doc synopsis for nsupdate(1) missing options -L, and -p o docs/174581 doc man page of recvmsg(2) does not mention return value 0 o docs/173710 doc Added section "MTP storage" to handbook o docs/173539 doc [patch] statfs(2) man page missed the error code ENOSY o docs/173321 doc ports(7) man page -- no info on building with debuggin o docs/173013 doc FreeBSD Boot Menu documentation lacks detail o docs/172927 doc ipfw(8): ipfw manual page doesn't show simpliest NAT c o docs/172913 doc [ipsec] [patch] setkey(8) is unclear on anti-replay wi o docs/172869 doc [PATCH] Add in nifty lang icons to index.html (home) o docs/172743 doc IPv6 handbooks lacks info about accepting router adver o docs/172626 doc [PATCH] modify the community/* pages to look more plea o docs/172370 doc [handbook] Handbook should be updated for Blu-Ray driv o docs/172369 doc mkisofs(8)/growisofs(1m) don't specify UDF version o docs/172368 doc mount_udf(8) doesn't specify which versions of UDF are o docs/172367 doc ata(4) man page needs an updated for Blu-Ray o docs/172330 doc [PATCH] Fix some errors introduced to announce.xml by o docs/172144 doc psignal(9) manpage is outdated for FreeBSD-9 systems o docs/172137 doc deprecated information for adduser(8) man pages o docs/171199 doc the GDB man page is outdated o docs/170691 doc Difference between zfs manpages and reality o docs/170223 doc IPv6 configuration section for 9.x is incorrect o docs/170119 doc at behaviour and man at inconsistency o docs/169712 doc [patch] porters-handbook zh_TW.Big5 apache section o docs/169711 doc [patch] porters-handbook zh_CN.GB2312 apache section o docs/169544 doc serial port console documentation changes s docs/169401 doc passify dead links in release links, move www to lists o docs/169377 doc [patch] ipmon(8) man page refers to a different facili o docs/169317 doc zfs umount refers to umount(1M) but should to umount(8 o docs/169158 doc [patch] iasl(8) man page is out of date f docs/168939 doc Port upgrade documentation missing from Application Ja o docs/168930 doc map_mincore(9) not up-to-date o docs/168915 doc size of integers used by test(1) and sh(1) is not docu o docs/168823 doc 404s in fr_FR French web pages o docs/168814 doc [patch] remove `d` negative pointer EINVAL requirement o docs/168803 doc Remove outdated smp info o docs/167741 doc group(5): Group Passwords do not work and are not docu o docs/167429 doc geli(8) needs to mention unencrypted /etc/fstab requir o docs/166553 doc find(1): find -delete documentation is misleading o docs/166358 doc No networking in Jail build via: handbook/jail-tuning o conf/166330 doc [rc] [patch] Thin server configuration revision reques o docs/165551 doc ipfw(8): no info in "ipfw pipe show" about ipv6 o docs/165249 doc Multibyte characters in manpages still not displaying o docs/164803 doc Unclear manual page for mount_unionfs(8) o docs/164620 doc Raid 1 issues o docs/164099 doc gparm(8): man page for gparm set is incorrect and inco o docs/164034 doc acl(9) documentation lacking o docs/163879 doc [handbook] handbook does not say about how to force to o docs/163830 doc device smbios: missing documentation, no manpage o docs/163149 doc [patch] Red Hat Linux/i386 9 HTML format sudo man page o docs/162765 doc [patch] lseek(2) may return successful although no see o docs/162587 doc unclear/incomplete description of per-interface statis o docs/162419 doc [request] please document (new) zfs and zpool cmdline o docs/162404 doc [handbook] IPv6 link-local address compared with IPv4 o docs/161754 doc p4tcc(4), est(4) and qpi(4) are not documented o docs/161496 doc zfs(1): Please document that sysctl vfs.usermount must o docs/160460 doc [handbook] Network setup guide suggestion o docs/160446 doc [handbook] Handbook sound setup seems outdated o docs/160399 doc Man page for re(4) missing jumbo frames info o docs/159307 doc [patch] lpd smm chapter unconditionally installed o docs/158388 doc Incorrect documentation of LOCAL_SCRIPT in release(7) o docs/158387 doc The tree(3) man should mention the RB_FOREACH_SAFE() A o docs/157908 doc [handbook] Description of post-install should include o docs/157698 doc [patch] gpart(8) man page contains old/incorrect size o docs/157316 doc [patch] update devstat(9) man page o docs/157049 doc FreeBSD Handbook: Chapter 14 (Security) Inaccuracy o docs/156920 doc isspecial(3) is not helpful o docs/156815 doc chmod(1): manpage should describe that chmod kicks +t o docs/156689 doc stf(4) output-only documentation gives bad configurati f docs/156187 doc [handbook] [patch] Add bsnmpd to handbook o docs/156081 doc troff falls with troff.core with UTF-8 man with incorr o docs/155982 doc [handbook] reaper of the dead: remove reference to flo o docs/155149 doc [patch] don't encourage using xorg.conf outside of PRE o docs/154838 doc update cvs-tags information on releng_* to reflect sup o docs/153958 doc ksu man-page documented, but not installed a docs/153012 doc [patch] iostat(8) requires an argument to -c option o docs/151752 doc pw.conf(5) doesn't define format for file clearly o docs/150991 doc [patch] Install upgtfw using pkg_add as advised in upg o docs/150917 doc [patch] icmp.4, wrong description of icmplim and icmpl o docs/150877 doc ambiguity in newsyslog(8) man page about zfs with comp o docs/150255 doc dtrace description should mention makeoptions DEBUG=-g o docs/149574 doc [patch] update mi_switch(9) man page o docs/148987 doc [patch] {MD[245]|SHA_|SHA1_|SHA256_}{End|File|FileChun o docs/148984 doc [handbook] Mistake in section 16.15.4 of the handbook o docs/148680 doc [sysctl][patch] Document some sys/kern sysctls o docs/148071 doc Failover mode between wired and wireless interfaces o docs/147995 doc elf.5 man page has has missing reference o docs/146521 doc [handbook] Update IPv6 system handbook section to ment o docs/145699 doc hexdump(1) mutes all format qualifier output following o docs/145069 doc Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD article out dated. o docs/145066 doc Update for new uart dev names for serial port. s docs/144818 doc all mailinglist archives dated 19970101 contain traili o docs/144515 doc [handbook] Expand handbook Table of contents o docs/143472 doc gethostname(3) references undefined value: HOST_NAME_M o docs/143416 doc [handbook] IPFW handbook page issues o docs/143408 doc man filedesc(9) is missing o docs/141032 doc misleading documentation for rtadvd.conf(5) raflags se s docs/140847 doc [request] add documentation on ECMP and new route args o docs/140444 doc [patch] New Traditional Chinese translation of custom- o docs/140375 doc [UPDATE] Updated zh_TW.Big5/articles/nanobsd o docs/139336 doc [request] ZFS documentation suggestion o docs/139165 doc gssapi.3 man page out of sync with between crypto and o docs/139018 doc translation of submitting.sgml from docproj/submitting o docs/138845 doc Exceeding kern.ipc.maxpipekva refers to tuning(7) whic o docs/138485 doc bpf(4) and ip(4) man pages missing important corner ca o docs/136712 doc [handbook] [patch] draft new section on gmirror per pa o docs/136666 doc [handbook] Configure serial port for remote kernel deb o docs/136035 doc ftpchroot(5) omits an important option o docs/135516 doc [patch] pax(1) manual not mentioning chflags unawarene o docs/132839 doc [patch] Fix example script in ldap-auth article o docs/132718 doc [handbook] Information about adding a new mirror is ou o docs/132260 doc dhcpd(8) pid not stored in documented location o docs/132190 doc EPERM explanation for send(2), sendto(2), and sendmsg( o docs/131918 doc [patch] Fixes for the BPF(4) man page o docs/131626 doc [patch] dump(8) "recommended" cache option confusing o docs/130238 doc nfs.lockd man page doesn't mention NFSLOCKD option or o docs/129671 doc New TCP chapter for Developer's Handbook (from rwatson o docs/129464 doc using packages system o docs/129095 doc ipfw(8): Can not check that packet originating/destine o docs/128356 doc [request] add Firefox plugin for FreeBSD manual pages s docs/127844 doc Example code skeleton_capture_n.c in meteor(4) manpage o docs/126484 doc libc function res-zonscut2 is not documented f docs/122052 doc minor update on handbook section 20.7.1 o docs/121952 doc Handbook chapter on Network Address Translation wrong o docs/121585 doc [handbook] Wrong multicast specification s docs/121541 doc [request] no man pages for wlan_scan_ap o docs/121312 doc RELNOTES_LANG breaks release if not en_US.ISO8859-1 o docs/121173 doc [patch] mq_getattr(2): mq_flags mistakenly described a s docs/120917 doc [request]: Man pages mising for thr_xxx syscalls o docs/120125 doc [patch] Installing FreeBSD 7.0 via serial console and o docs/120024 doc resolver(5) and hosts(5) need updated for IPv6 o docs/119545 doc books/arch-handbook/usb/chapter.sgml formatting o docs/118214 doc close(2) error returns incomplete o docs/116588 doc No IPFW tables or dummynet in Handbook o docs/116080 doc PREFIX is documented, but not the more important LOCAL o docs/114371 doc [patch] [ip6] rtadvd.con(5) should show how to adverti o docs/114139 doc mbuf(9) has misleading comments on M_DONTWAIT and M_TR o docs/113194 doc [patch] [request] crontab.5: handling of day-in-month o docs/112579 doc [request] No ipv6 related pf examples in /usr/share/ex o docs/111425 doc Missing chunks of text in historical manpages o docs/111265 doc [request] Clarify how to set common shell variables o docs/110999 doc carp(4) should document unsupported interface types o docs/110692 doc wi(4) man page doesn't say WPA is not supported o docs/110376 doc [patch] add some more explanations for the iwi/ipw fir o docs/110062 doc [patch] mount_nfs(8) fails to mention a failure condit o docs/109981 doc No manual entry for post-grohtml o docs/109977 doc No manual entry for ksu o docs/109972 doc No manual entry for zless/bzless f docs/109226 doc [request] No manual entry for sntp o docs/109201 doc [request]: manual for callbootd a docs/108980 doc list of missing man pages o docs/105608 doc fdc(4) debugging description staled o docs/104879 doc Howto: Listen to IMA ADPCM .wav files on FreeBSD box o docs/102719 doc [patch] ng_bpf(4) example leads to unneeded promiscuos o docs/101271 doc serial console documentation implies kernel rebuild re o docs/100196 doc man login.conf does explain not "unlimited" o docs/98974 doc Missing tunables in loader(8) manpage o docs/98115 doc Missing parts after rendering handbook to RTF format o docs/96207 doc Comments of a sockaddr_un structure could confuse one o docs/95408 doc install over serial console does not work as documente o docs/94625 doc [patch] growfs man page -- document "panic: not enough o docs/92626 doc jail manpage should mention disabling some periodic sc o docs/91149 doc read(2) can return EINVAL for unaligned access to bloc o docs/88512 doc [patch] mount_ext2fs(8) man page has no details on lar o docs/87936 doc Handbook chapter on NIS/YP lacks good information on a o docs/87857 doc ifconfig(8) wireless options order matters o docs/85128 doc [patch] loader.conf(5) autoboot_delay incompletly desc o docs/84956 doc [patch] intro(5) manpage doesn't mention API coverage o docs/84932 doc new document: printing with an Epson ALC-3000N on Free o docs/84670 doc [patch] tput(1) manpage missing ENVIRONMENT section wi o docs/84317 doc fdp-primer doesn't show class=USERNAME distinctively o docs/84271 doc [patch] compress(1) doesn't warn about nasty link hand o docs/83820 doc getino(3) manpage not installed o docs/81611 doc [patch] natd runs with -same_ports by default o docs/78480 doc Networked printer setup unnecessarily complex in handb o docs/61301 doc [patch] Manpage patch for aue(4) to enable HomePNA fun o docs/59835 doc ipfw(8) man page does not warn about accepted but mean o docs/59477 doc Outdated Info Documents at http://docs.freebsd.org/inf o docs/57298 doc [patch] add using compact flash cards info to handbook s docs/54752 doc bus_dma explained in ISA section in Handbook: should b o docs/53751 doc bus_dma(9) incorrectly documents BUS_DMA_ALLOCNOW o docs/53596 doc Updates to mt(1) manual page o docs/53271 doc bus_dma(9) fails to document alignment restrictions o docs/51480 doc Multiple undefined references in the FreeBSD manual pa o kern/51341 doc [ipfw] [patch] ipfw rule 'deny icmp from any to any ic o docs/50211 doc [patch] doc.docbook.mk: fix textfile creation o docs/48101 doc [patch] Add documentation on the fixit disk o docs/47594 doc [patch] passwd(5) incorrectly states allowed username o docs/45303 doc Bug in PDF DocBook rendering o docs/43823 doc [patch] update to environ(7) manpage o docs/41089 doc pax(1) -B option does not mention interaction with -z o docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to GETFKEY/SETF o docs/36724 doc ipnat(5) manpage grammar is incomplete and inconsisten s docs/33589 doc [patch] to doc.docbook.mk to post process .tex files. o docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string warnings o docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) s docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags in the sourc 245 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 8 20:54:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8349873 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 20:54:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-x230.google.com (mail-wg0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DCF18AB for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 20:54:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f48.google.com with SMTP id f11so4112204wgh.27 for ; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 13:54:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EMf9/MPaVspSsjrTl+CSHLUgwsKT1hWfOgRP39dRvxE=; b=jZnZYEBR+3Fz/xQMo7+z3lv/cXJXJNW7PQHycUihw6H+6GdiTzGspS4HtP29o5XCNQ 6rer2PzKboei0yfgYxqcDNC0CteNARVTeHBfe0bp3GKB8jhzngdclLUQamMbvECVlpdh vlMgiZ0MBoY1CQDKcYhn7qq4B/r8xfwCEb/XZWbPBTNv/luKr0ent1Rhn+LEHKHq2DAH GSSwZMQ74iYLvnw9Cj1bi1mk74cqOwpNmK80qRgDLybZQHINget0eKDAIWtftLTXrpxo YHVxsATO/4bCmOGAu1VT6OIVV+cu8GFPyHJgUIVTVr529IM1mWMPI9aquhCNUI2z97Vo qMZQ== X-Received: by 10.194.242.134 with SMTP id wq6mr12879325wjc.94.1373316869670; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 13:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:980:d7ed:1:ed5f:372f:fef0:a690? ([2001:980:d7ed:1:ed5f:372f:fef0:a690]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f8sm56110030wiv.0.2013.07.08.13.54.28 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 08 Jul 2013 13:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Sender: =?UTF-8?Q?Ren=C3=A9_Ladan?= Message-ID: <51DB2703.90605@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 22:54:27 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Ladan?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130701 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FBSD Doc project Subject: [CFT] merging projects/entities (new diff) X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 20:54:30 -0000 Hi, I updated the diff [1] so that it contains the latest commits in the entities branch and the latest merges from head. I'll "svn merge" all subdirectories before the merge-to-head to keep the mergeinfo in shape. The latter should be something like: cd ${DOC}/head (cd en_US.ISO889-1 && svn merge ^/projects/entities/en_US.ISO8859-1) svn commit -m "some appropriate message" if I'm not mistaken? ftp://rene-ladan.nl/pub/freebsd/entities-r42196.diff SIZE = 398479 SHA256 = a915dfc81e4335378854a7455069b4208d895cf6b6b36511cbd8ed43cb84fd96 René From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 9 09:49:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BA56C5 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:49:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Amelia@improvevisiter.com) Received: from svr131.fastwebhost.com (svr131.fastwebhost.com [67.227.167.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0004715EA for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:49:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [115.185.26.102] (port=53171 helo=PC21) by svr131.fastwebhost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UwUXs-0001cm-6P for doc@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 02:49:18 -0700 From: "Amelia" To: Subject: Re: Magento Ecommerce Development Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 15:19:03 +0530 Message-ID: <02c601ce7c89$933941d0$b9abc570$@improvevisiter.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac58iX1r5DfXrUtaQverS1J+1ES69g== Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - svr131.fastwebhost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - improvevisiter.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: svr131.fastwebhost.com: authenticated_id: amelia@improvevisiter.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:49:26 -0000 =20 Hello, =20 Hope you are doing well. =20 Haven't heard back from you, just wondering if you are interested in our services. =20 Let me know if you are interested and we can discuss this further. =20 Best Regards, =20 Amelia =20 Manager-Business Development| Amelia@improvevisiter.com =20 From: Amelia [mailto:Amelia@improvevisiter.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 11:33 AM To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Magento Ecommerce Development =20 Hi, =20 Greeting of the day!!! =20 I am Amelia, Manager-Business Development with a Web Development Agency. =20 We are a professionally specialized Web design and Development Firm = since 2002 based in out of New Delhi-India. We provide a wide range of = affordable Internet- Related outsourcing services to our clients all around the = globe. =20 Our objective is to ensure client satisfaction with long term business association. =20 We mainly focus on quality, and combine our company standard services = with the campaign management to deliver superior marketing results for our clients by saving their time and cost. =20 We offer effective services like:- =20 =A7 Website Designing and Development =A7 Logo Design =A7 Flash Design90 =A7 Graphic Designs =A7 Ecommerce Solutions =20 We have expertise in following apps. =FC open source =FC php =FC joomla =FC wordpress =FC drupal =FC iphone =FC ipad =FC blackberry=20 =FC HTML 5 =20 We have vast experience in promoting websites of various industries like finance, tourism, retail, entertainment, dating, real estate, auto, = shopping etc. =20 Do let me know if you are interested and I would be happy to share our client Testimonials, past work details and Methodologies. =20 We look forward to hearing from you! =20 =20 Regards, =20 Name: Amelia Post: Manager-Business Development Ids: Amelia@improvevisiter.com =20 =20 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 9 18:49:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10F21A9; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 18:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97AF61348; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 18:49:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r69IntmM047467; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:49:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r69IntRc047464; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:49:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:49:55 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Alberto Mijares Subject: Re: RFC: Upgrading to DocBook 5.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <519FA4FE.4030305@FreeBSD.org> <51D3E051.5070506@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 09 Jul 2013 12:49:55 -0600 (MDT) Cc: doc@freebsd.org, Gabor Kovesdan X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 18:49:56 -0000 On Wed, 3 Jul 2013, Alberto Mijares wrote: > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 3:56 AM, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: >> Em 24-05-2013 19:35, Gabor Kovesdan escreveu: >>> >>> I'm working on upgrading our documentation set to DocBook 5.0 and I'd like >>> to discuss some details. We have some customizations and strange uses, which >>> can be expressed with DocBook 5.0's own vocabulary. This upgrade is a good >>> opportunity to change these, as well. I propose the following changes in our >>> vocabulary: >> >> One more thing to discuss: shall we maintain the sect1, sect2, ... elements >> or just use section? The section element can have another section element >> embedded and the numbering in the rendered version is inferred by the level >> of embedment. This is more uniform and less redundant. In own docs that I >> write with DocBook I only use section and it works fine. Opinions? > IMHO, is a good thing to keep a visual clue of the level you are going > down while writing. Yes, but that is what the indentation also does. > So, should be kept, I think. But it is another thing the user has to track. The DocBook 5 book shows both forms. Converting to
would be just a search and replace. Do we need to pick one method before the DockBook 5 version merge? From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 9 22:11:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7F98F6 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 22:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-ve0-x22e.google.com (mail-ve0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c01::22e]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF40101F for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 22:11:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f174.google.com with SMTP id oz10so5041683veb.5 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 15:11:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=m3/p1P5T5k+ya0ziWgkPI1f1WvjlkVocUchCMhhTExI=; b=f7cUxssKK4rQtkmlUhS5rlx+bSOfOhYBZsWehHPq1to1z7BDI5EnB1z5LPcAddhir/ Rkn4AQEPRR/pH5ACQPenkHsUBDawi7lsYUW4dUOoxeQBb1cTasmILizv+0gi/QR1oOOa b3fy2p+9h5sZmaHvn46RqzdBgfIhV1LBngOEM= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=m3/p1P5T5k+ya0ziWgkPI1f1WvjlkVocUchCMhhTExI=; b=XTE66K8SOCfxRSkddCDj/v8dKcqDXDCWTmxoeL2V4yly3Mzx8LpBIad42SaHmtqQ/X wgc8nFpu2rbQLCgkcgLWLBu33mqLFV+CFx6FUwT+I3WVt3J0DiHhrch65LwyCagoovXD O+Yktt5b6ibdGmF36uT70qdFjMPOa8nU+crNbZtuEXCUDRyrdbAfJFdP2vrtNY954gLF j1p09kLBzcuo2Hf6xRS+u4EY7vi/Qg7eLw0eN9YElFsS4OfibywUBwbRwhphGddY7SM/ mPfcY7/9y2l66Ea9PFxH6SbFHYI9PXScYov21YZz4GNhtNfqRPWj29lZU/gKp17zOk6R XJsA== X-Received: by 10.52.165.12 with SMTP id yu12mr763437vdb.40.1373407875352; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 15:11:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.118.206 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 15:10:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <519FA4FE.4030305@FreeBSD.org> <51D3E051.5070506@FreeBSD.org> From: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 00:10:45 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RFC: Upgrading to DocBook 5.0 To: Alberto Mijares Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl8Zsrey5JL7cuVtMbo6d2uST/jhSeiRziEC230JfvTZOIKPuwy2R12ARlZ9ntLQEom23u1 Cc: doc@freebsd.org, Gabor Kovesdan X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 22:11:16 -0000 On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Alberto Mijares wrote: > IMHO, is a good thing to keep a visual clue of the level you are going > down while writing. So, should be kept, I think. top posting, really? > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 3:56 AM, Gabor Kovesdan >> One more thing to discuss: shall we maintain the sect1, sect2, ... elements >> or just use section? How would this be rendered in HTML? Does this change anything? -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 9 22:21:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52319B74 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 22:21:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-x22e.google.com (mail-wg0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22e]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E197410A8 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 22:21:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id c11so5199737wgh.13 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 15:21:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=E9wzlDjhtnMrBEmkfPMbF+se0IKEBr/x4RBmCEj/PhA=; b=drKoX5GX2iHxaXLMcr45c6AntPqyVBMmWIQonZa/c4UW1sqTd0KglIozl5jldtTF6m EhTEeTo8MF1oNK8zEF+Gv7w8xwvc/ASHtcXcteSxvN4YIxZuQC3H8d4YYR1FdrIgWmzz KGbowWAJ9wrcDe2pwjeXWYPNYSZgV6pTs1R0ilX/9udsXte17clIqNb90weH2/IYFJRi ys0PcoWZMv2PSr0nehn/H9ziTVLwgnJdwcchNeMFAlK4XeylePrV0L1lwtswpftJy6jO vkItSfckaAldCrYh7XrQsKsPay3PdcVqg/vYHmIEjrcN1/DatS8UIVdgE4XxK5kluTzt PmHw== X-Received: by 10.180.20.228 with SMTP id q4mr33302865wie.60.1373408518100; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 15:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:980:d7ed:1:8e:1a90:6584:b13f? ([2001:980:d7ed:1:8e:1a90:6584:b13f]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id cz9sm19114550wib.3.2013.07.09.15.21.56 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Jul 2013 15:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Sender: =?UTF-8?Q?Ren=C3=A9_Ladan?= Message-ID: <51DC8D03.2000107@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 00:21:55 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Ladan?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130701 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FBSD Doc project Subject: translators: projects/entities merged X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 22:21:59 -0000 Dear translators, now that the projects/entities is merged back into head/ as of r42226, you will have to update the author entity references in your books and articles to avoid loosing email addresses in the rendered output: Before: * share/xml/authors.ent : et@FreeBSD.org"> * articles/martian/article.xml: The first green man to join &os; was &a.et;. which would render as The First green man to join FreeBSD was ExtraTerrestial et@FreeBSD.org. After: * share/xml/authors.ent : et@FreeBSD.org"> (the empty namespace is required for the webpages to build) This means the same sentence would now render without the email address, unless you change it to: The first green man to join &os; was &a.et.email;. Regards, René From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 10 01:05:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763A2339; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 01:05:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaduk@mit.edu) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-6.mit.edu (dmz-mailsec-scanner-6.mit.edu [18.7.68.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D848E19ED; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 01:05:33 +0000 (UTC) X-AuditID: 12074423-b7f168e00000095a-c2-51dcb356196b Received: from mailhub-auth-2.mit.edu ( [18.7.62.36]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-6.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id DB.F7.02394.653BCD15; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 21:05:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) by mailhub-auth-2.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id r6A15P2V002864; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 21:05:26 -0400 Received: from multics.mit.edu (system-low-sipb.mit.edu [18.187.2.37]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id r6A15N1i008614 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 9 Jul 2013 21:05:25 -0400 Received: (from kaduk@localhost) by multics.mit.edu (8.12.9.20060308) id r6A15N3X027947; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 21:05:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 21:05:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Benjamin Kaduk To: Warren Block , pgj@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r42201 - head/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/docbook-markup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201307090627.r696RuOg076372@svn.freebsd.org> <51DC7984.4080106@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (GSO 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFmpnleLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IRYrdT0Q3ffCfQYOt7FotTZ7pYLZY92shm MWf1U0aLy+8nslj8OuXhwOox49N8Fo8jHY8YA5iiuGxSUnMyy1KL9O0SuDI6vl1kKnjAXzH1 zTL2BsYtPF2MnBwSAiYSM5o+s0HYYhIX7q0Hsrk4hAT2MUo87VjCDOFsYJQ4Nv0xO4RzkEli 9eMDzCAtQgL1EheeLWMBsVkEtCTWfTkKFmcTUJGY+WYj2FgRATOJpmXbmUBsZoFsia1TVjOC 2MICERKfz+4BGsrBwSlgJ/HprztImFfAUWL1rZMsELsOMEpMaroD1isqoCOxev8UFogiQYmT M5+wQMy0lDj35zrbBEbBWUhSs5CkFjAyrWKUTcmt0s1NzMwpTk3WLU5OzMtLLdI108vNLNFL TSndxAgOYxflHYx/DiodYhTgYFTi4T2gcCdQiDWxrLgy9xCjJAeTkihv9nqgEF9SfkplRmJx RnxRaU5q8SFGCQ5mJRHevFVAOd6UxMqq1KJ8mJQ0B4uSOO+zp2cDhQTSE0tSs1NTC1KLYLIy HBxKEryXNgI1ChalpqdWpGXmlCCkmTg4QYbzAA3fCVLDW1yQmFucmQ6RP8Woy/Hpxdb3jEIs efl5qVLivO9AigRAijJK8+DmwNLPK0ZxoLeEedk2AVXxAFMX3KRXQEuYgJbsSQFbUpKIkJJq YFT99F5Wd3lW16Xs9r1x0qem+L45dPUgn57ZWfPl01TFXl/qWmJk/YpNS8DsSM6t39FtXlIc wX8PmHZs/9G2gytN52SdidzqfatNtCZu8xefyrF2nb133scH7+Me5Dzv/f0k4ts7lr2taikl rvUrtl/c5JK4YKIiu96Neatfpj/WvX1hw1n3LeVKLMUZiYZazEXFiQBmjUhGGgMAAA== Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Gabor Kovesdan , Warren Block X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 01:05:34 -0000 [moving to the -doc list for discussion] On Tue, 9 Jul 2013, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jul 2013, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > >> Em 09-07-2013 21:13, Benjamin Kaduk escreveu: >>>> Remove a confusing paragraph whose net contribution is negative. Remove >>>> some   from "Ports Collection", it's unnecessary. Make one example >>> >>> Was this discussed anywhere? I am seeing a pretty long precedent for the >>> non-breaking space. >> Indeed it wasn't discussed but I think that these non-breaking spaces >> should be reconsidered. > > I had added the   to the Ports Collection in the word list very > recently, then saw that it really made no sense to force those two words to > be on the same line. > >> Typography rules and conventions are language-dependent. For example, in >> Hungarian it is not nice to end a line with a sentence-starting >> single-letter article. Afaik, English does not have such rules, except >> widows and orphans, which are more concerned with aesthetics. It is >> reasonable to avoid a line break between FreeBSD and 9.X or similar cases >> but probably not for such long terms as Ports Collection. Actually, it may >> just hit back because it may make justified paragraphs very ugly in our >> print formats. > > Exactly. I have done my share of fitting relatively large font text into a small space and trying to get the wrapping to look nice; with a nbsp there will almost certainly be some font size+page width combinations that look bad. We should probably discuss and decide one way or the other and actually put it in the word list, so we remember for next time. I actually don't have strong feelings either way. I went back through the history of this file, and at least one instance was added in r33364 by pgj (cc'd), with review by gabor@, even! That was back in Dec 2008, so changing our minds now would not be terrible, if we want to. Does anyone want to argue for keeping the nbsp? -Ben From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 10 01:36:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09AE7D4; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 01:36:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02571AF5; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 01:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r6A1adhB050501; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 19:36:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r6A1adJB050498; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 19:36:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 19:36:39 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Benjamin Kaduk Subject: Re: svn commit: r42201 - head/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/docbook-markup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201307090627.r696RuOg076372@svn.freebsd.org> <51DC7984.4080106@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 09 Jul 2013 19:36:39 -0600 (MDT) Cc: pgj@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Gabor Kovesdan , Warren Block X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 01:36:41 -0000 On Tue, 9 Jul 2013, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > I have done my share of fitting relatively large font text into a small space > and trying to get the wrapping to look nice; with a nbsp there will almost > certainly be some font size+page width combinations that look bad. > > We should probably discuss and decide one way or the other and actually put > it in the word list, so we remember for next time. I actually don't have > strong feelings either way. "Ports Collection" is there now. Or do you mean nbsp in general? I think the justification for using in "&os; 9.2" is that the version number is so narrow on its own that it would simply look bad if wrapped to the beginning of a line. That's a guess, I don't recall any explicit justification. As Gabor pointed out, it may not work or may even be contrary to what is desirable in translations. > I went back through the history of this file, and at least one instance was > added in r33364 by pgj (cc'd), with review by gabor@, even! That was back in > Dec 2008, so changing our minds now would not be terrible, if we want to. > > Does anyone want to argue for keeping the nbsp? For "FreeBSD 9.2", numbers and units like "8 GB", and guibutton uses, I think using nbsp is probably okay. For "Ports Collection" or other instances of multiple full words, I can't think of a compelling reason to use it. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 10 03:17:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2307AB; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 03:17:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaduk@mit.edu) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-3.mit.edu (dmz-mailsec-scanner-3.mit.edu [18.9.25.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8EB71FA7; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 03:17:09 +0000 (UTC) X-AuditID: 1209190e-b7f988e0000009a7-53-51dcd234b11a Received: from mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu ( [18.7.62.39]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-3.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 7E.01.02471.432DCD15; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 23:17:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) by mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id r6A3H6uG013998; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 23:17:07 -0400 Received: from multics.mit.edu (system-low-sipb.mit.edu [18.187.2.37]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id r6A3H4ob017383 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 9 Jul 2013 23:17:05 -0400 Received: (from kaduk@localhost) by multics.mit.edu (8.12.9.20060308) id r6A3H3K1014699; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 23:17:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 23:17:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Benjamin Kaduk To: Warren Block Subject: Re: svn commit: r42201 - head/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/docbook-markup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201307090627.r696RuOg076372@svn.freebsd.org> <51DC7984.4080106@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (GSO 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFmplleLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IRYrdT1zW5dCfQ4PlqRYtTZ7pYLZY92shm MWf1U0aLy+8nslj8OuXhwOox49N8Fo8jHY8YA5iiuGxSUnMyy1KL9O0SuDI23SkuWMlasePu JNYGxm6WLkYODgkBE4kp/6S6GDmBTDGJC/fWs3UxcnEICexjlLg5cxkrhLOBUeLG9GWMEM5B JolnW98wg7QICdRLHDz7kh3EZhHQkvi56wcLiM0moCIx881GNpANIgKqEnvPWIOEmQVqJG6t 7WMEsYUFIiQ+n90D1sopYCfxde1ssJG8Ao4Sp75Phdq1ikli25ZJrCAJUQEdidX7p7BAFAlK nJz5hAViqKXEuT/X2SYwCs5CkpqFJLWAkWkVo2xKbpVubmJmTnFqsm5xcmJeXmqRrrFebmaJ XmpK6SZGUAhzSvLtYPx6UOkQowAHoxIP7wGFO4FCrIllxZW5hxglOZiURHltLwCF+JLyUyoz Eosz4otKc1KLDzFKcDArifDmrQLK8aYkVlalFuXDpKQ5WJTEeZ89PRsoJJCeWJKanZpakFoE k5Xh4FCS4LW/CNQoWJSanlqRlplTgpBm4uAEGc4DNDwJpIa3uCAxtzgzHSJ/ilGX49OLre8Z hVjy8vNSpcR5W0CKBECKMkrz4ObAUs8rRnGgt4R5E0GqeIBpC27SK6AlTEBL9qSALSlJREhJ NTDavLs/lT1rSgGDbe3WC5InhSu8/TlVQpTSFYozGeVOTxM/3PcrKcktNf7rHh3J2hKbsvYy h/r+79+vV0vF+TEv6wrj2qNw50E/j93BIw2zjsc/Xr/Ht8Br96p/6WxFtk8il+gov5VcUHPB R9i/5v2NHVd38stM3fgvWmFD8NqpuWsVlI4dslBiKc5INNRiLipOBAAqkSquGAMAAA== Cc: pgj@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Gabor Kovesdan , Warren Block X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 03:17:10 -0000 On Tue, 9 Jul 2013, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jul 2013, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > >> I have done my share of fitting relatively large font text into a small >> space and trying to get the wrapping to look nice; with a nbsp there will >> almost certainly be some font size+page width combinations that look bad. >> >> We should probably discuss and decide one way or the other and actually put >> it in the word list, so we remember for next time. I actually don't have >> strong feelings either way. > > "Ports Collection" is there now. Or do you mean nbsp in general? I think No, I meant "Ports Collection". So, uh ... sorry for the noise. -Ben From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 10 07:10:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7EF566B; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6429718A1; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587DE14D250A; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 09:10:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id N6e_er8eTkuK; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 09:10:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (54034B4D.catv.pool.telekom.hu [84.3.75.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5B99914D2462; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 09:10:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51DD08DB.2070108@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 09:10:19 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/22.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block , Benjamin Kaduk Subject: Re: svn commit: r42201 - head/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/docbook-markup References: <201307090627.r696RuOg076372@svn.freebsd.org> <51DC7984.4080106@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pgj@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Warren Block X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:10:22 -0000 Em 10-07-2013 03:36, Warren Block escreveu: > > For "FreeBSD 9.2", numbers and units like "8 GB", and guibutton uses, > I think using nbsp is probably okay. For "Ports Collection" or other > instances of multiple full words, I can't think of a compelling reason > to use it. Seems like a good rule of thumb. I agree on version numbers and units but what do you mean by guibutton uses? I remember of Cancel, OK and such but do we have two-word guibuttons? Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 10 07:18:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A61C954 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBE318E2 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:18:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A089A14D250A; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 09:18:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id FF5wbuUcpnp1; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 09:18:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (54034B4D.catv.pool.telekom.hu [84.3.75.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B3DDE14D2462; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 09:18:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51DD0AD8.60102@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 09:18:48 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/22.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eitan Adler , Alberto Mijares Subject: Re: RFC: Upgrading to DocBook 5.0 References: <519FA4FE.4030305@FreeBSD.org> <51D3E051.5070506@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:18:51 -0000 Em 10-07-2013 00:10, Eitan Adler escreveu: > top posting, really? > > >> >On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 3:56 AM, Gabor Kovesdan >>> >>One more thing to discuss: shall we maintain the sect1, sect2, ... elements >>> >>or just use section? > How would this be rendered in HTML? Does this change anything? As already mentioned: no. Not reading history, really? ;) Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 10 07:19:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 177CA9CB for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBAB818EE for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206C314D250A; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 09:19:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id L0Aop1RWot7f; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 09:19:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (54034B4D.catv.pool.telekom.hu [84.3.75.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6898614D2462; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 09:19:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51DD0AF9.6060600@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 09:19:21 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/22.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block , Alberto Mijares Subject: Re: RFC: Upgrading to DocBook 5.0 References: <519FA4FE.4030305@FreeBSD.org> <51D3E051.5070506@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:19:23 -0000 Em 09-07-2013 20:49, Warren Block escreveu: > The DocBook 5 book shows both forms. Converting to
would be > just a search and replace. Do we need to pick one method before the > DockBook 5 version merge? No, it's true, we can also change that later. Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 10 07:41:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA4D55B; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:41:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amijaresp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ve0-x22c.google.com (mail-ve0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c01::22c]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58A019EA; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:41:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f172.google.com with SMTP id jz10so5443355veb.3 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 00:41:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=SonU6YlhzLqlKv6G8zu9lSd+DED0gvY29qUGKluzBhs=; b=hObclFnmt6feX84JULJnAl7ZRdui52XujeMMt2rU9NQ7Y515kO7CZ+h1oEp9UnmdMs 4FjZPLDkdNb1iQ8+hg4Uw7HRaYyMD27AGhYMveSdJcIrMeDf50R9rNTKxiurqCiAdZMI NYsWx0wknpimV+PBwLcJ2Y4iDvSKU1kWTAT892sSWfwjLtY8Ey6wFlTF83DCFM9CL4y3 mMbNHOvcasoqz7XIRSOoCiWBHVkjoH0ClBg81IztC53WJJVRvxsaUKgUdTxUeTdo+no0 V9QZQ1oecqr8s8SG0gJQQXVtP7q0IX2xjmrJ0pkeE5jUeg2sII7j8VEkoF239els8Iwb YUBA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.227.198 with SMTP id sc6mr18467813vec.59.1373442091450; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 00:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.224.7 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 00:41:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <519FA4FE.4030305@FreeBSD.org> <51D3E051.5070506@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 03:11:31 -0430 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RFC: Upgrading to DocBook 5.0 From: Alberto Mijares To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: doc@freebsd.org, Gabor Kovesdan X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:41:32 -0000 >>> One more thing to discuss: shall we maintain the sect1, sect2, ... >>> elements >>> or just use section? The section element can have another section element >>> embedded and the numbering in the rendered version is inferred by the >>> level >>> of embedment. This is more uniform and less redundant. In own docs that I >>> write with DocBook I only use section and it works fine. Opinions? > > >> IMHO, is a good thing to keep a visual clue of the level you are going >> down while writing. > > > Yes, but that is what the indentation also does. I agree. However, since humans identify characters much better than they do with indentation, using sect1 and so is a help for those who want to improve documentation. Using only
may be confusing for some people and I don't see the win with changing that. > > >> So, should be kept, I think. > > > But it is another thing the user has to track. I'm not a very experienced docbook user but an occasional one, and I can tell you this is not a big deal to track with. It's just my opinion. Regards, Alberto Mijares From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 10 11:19:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D884D517; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:19:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BCBE1666; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r6ABJ2OG054766; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 05:19:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r6ABJ2hH054763; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 05:19:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 05:19:02 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Gabor Kovesdan Subject: Re: svn commit: r42201 - head/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/docbook-markup In-Reply-To: <51DD08DB.2070108@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <201307090627.r696RuOg076372@svn.freebsd.org> <51DC7984.4080106@FreeBSD.org> <51DD08DB.2070108@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 10 Jul 2013 05:19:02 -0600 (MDT) Cc: pgj@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Warren Block X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:19:03 -0000 On Wed, 10 Jul 2013, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > Em 10-07-2013 03:36, Warren Block escreveu: >> >> For "FreeBSD 9.2", numbers and units like "8 GB", and guibutton uses, I >> think using nbsp is probably okay. For "Ports Collection" or other >> instances of multiple full words, I can't think of a compelling reason to >> use it. > Seems like a good rule of thumb. I agree on version numbers and units but > what do you mean by guibutton uses? I remember of Cancel, OK and such but do > we have two-word guibuttons? nbsp is used to glue together the square brackets and the label: [ Save ] From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 10 11:41:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D5291D; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3946417B6; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C6214D2410; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:41:32 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id uKwHjRxCbHXz; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:41:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (54034B4D.catv.pool.telekom.hu [84.3.75.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E34DF14D2436; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:41:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51DD486A.7010606@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:41:30 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/22.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block Subject: Re: svn commit: r42201 - head/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/docbook-markup References: <201307090627.r696RuOg076372@svn.freebsd.org> <51DC7984.4080106@FreeBSD.org> <51DD08DB.2070108@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pgj@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Warren Block X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:41:33 -0000 Em 10-07-2013 13:19, Warren Block escreveu: > On Wed, 10 Jul 2013, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > >> Em 10-07-2013 03:36, Warren Block escreveu: >>> >>> For "FreeBSD 9.2", numbers and units like "8 GB", and guibutton >>> uses, I think using nbsp is probably okay. For "Ports Collection" >>> or other instances of multiple full words, I can't think of a >>> compelling reason to use it. >> Seems like a good rule of thumb. I agree on version numbers and units >> but what do you mean by guibutton uses? I remember of Cancel, OK and >> such but do we have two-word guibuttons? > > nbsp is used to glue together the square brackets and the label: > [ Save ] And what if we don't use spaces at all? Would that look ugly? Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 10 11:43:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B64AC27 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22b.google.com (mail-wi0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36BEE17DA for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id hj3so11295025wib.10 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 04:43:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FIEpM69cn6fkgfuiwdefEapQRQuJl1RLElrqKG/NtWo=; b=ywBr8Gj6c1QpfoZ2PkcQAUeUGWOu10BuUIDKT/pdgg7snVXUtYqcyA3ksm/xEjchml IwacoH9BQjePZGWriBm4wNYqvzRXi89bFe1uia3PnKu/SaHXO+i2o3lMmdQHAwo5XQ3x ts4kjtHLTeDxAuLsua6wqlw4iRFqicvM1n8ArCP2xJReZli4YVeCfgYutLU+DQgI6MM2 UJaxkuS7sSEUl7kOVem1cszFymNF4g+upbUXn5n4PTtX/ZdFOHWqHywBYPl9P5s2oPam MizgxPUL4gG4MY2bjsvhyZtYpbd1pQ94DrpHK+SWq5eNIXMT64ThIt3DNkMt1HMv8arj LGwQ== X-Received: by 10.180.90.73 with SMTP id bu9mr16908319wib.32.1373456636239; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 04:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:980:d7ed:1:8e:1a90:6584:b13f? ([2001:980:d7ed:1:8e:1a90:6584:b13f]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a6sm18525786wib.10.2013.07.10.04.43.54 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 10 Jul 2013 04:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Sender: =?UTF-8?Q?Ren=C3=A9_Ladan?= Message-ID: <51DD48FA.70608@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:43:54 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Ladan?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130701 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FBSD Doc project Subject: more email cleanups? X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:43:57 -0000 Hi, now that projects/entities is merged, I grepped through head/share and head/en_US.ISO8859-1 for literal @freebsd.org addresses. The results are at [1] and [2] (after filtering out the standalone committer@FreeBSD.org for the status report sources and non-XML files). Should these usages (or some of them) be converted too? On one hand the sources would be cleaner, but on the other hand there are quite some append-only or write-once or files, such as share/xml/news.xml or en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/releases/* [1] http://people.freebsd.org/~rene/share-freebsd-org.txt [2] http://people.freebsd.org/~rene/en-freebsd-org.txt René From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 10 13:50:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7C47A2; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:50:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18691EB9; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:50:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r6ADo7n7056097; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:50:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r6ADo70L056094; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:50:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:50:07 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Gabor Kovesdan Subject: Re: svn commit: r42201 - head/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/docbook-markup In-Reply-To: <51DD486A.7010606@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <201307090627.r696RuOg076372@svn.freebsd.org> <51DC7984.4080106@FreeBSD.org> <51DD08DB.2070108@FreeBSD.org> <51DD486A.7010606@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:50:07 -0600 (MDT) Cc: pgj@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Warren Block X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:50:17 -0000 On Wed, 10 Jul 2013, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > Em 10-07-2013 13:19, Warren Block escreveu: >>> what do you mean by guibutton uses? I remember of Cancel, OK and such but >>> do we have two-word guibuttons? >> >> nbsp is used to glue together the square brackets and the label: >> [ Save ] > And what if we don't use spaces at all? Would that look ugly? There are some without the spaces and even without the brackets in the original 8.x install chapter of the Handbook. The new form with the nbsp originated in the bsdinstall chapter. To me, the new form is easier to read. Unless there are complaints, I'll add it to the FDP Primer. Kind of thought it was already in there, actually. 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From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/167741: commit references a PR Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:47:19 +0000 (UTC) Author: des Date: Thu Jul 11 12:47:06 2013 New Revision: 253205 URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/253205 Log: MFH (r246553): document and explain need for setuid bit. PR: docs/167741 Modified: stable/9/usr.bin/newgrp/newgrp.1 stable/9/usr.bin/newgrp/newgrp.c Directory Properties: stable/9/usr.bin/newgrp/ (props changed) Modified: stable/9/usr.bin/newgrp/newgrp.1 ============================================================================== --- stable/9/usr.bin/newgrp/newgrp.1 Thu Jul 11 12:46:35 2013 (r253204) +++ stable/9/usr.bin/newgrp/newgrp.1 Thu Jul 11 12:47:06 2013 (r253205) @@ -24,7 +24,7 @@ .\" .\" $FreeBSD$ .\" -.Dd May 23, 2002 +.Dd February 8, 2013 .Dt NEWGRP 1 .Os .Sh NAME @@ -90,6 +90,15 @@ A utility appeared in .At v6 . .Sh BUGS +For security reasons, the +.Nm +utility is normally installed without the setuid bit. +To enable it, run the following command: +.Bd -literal -offset indent +chmod u+s /usr/bin/newgrp +.Ed +.Pp Group passwords are inherently insecure as there is no way to stop -users obtaining the crypted passwords from the group database. +users obtaining the password hash from the group database. Their use is discouraged. +Instead, users should simply be added to the necessary groups. Modified: stable/9/usr.bin/newgrp/newgrp.c ============================================================================== --- stable/9/usr.bin/newgrp/newgrp.c Thu Jul 11 12:46:35 2013 (r253204) +++ stable/9/usr.bin/newgrp/newgrp.c Thu Jul 11 12:47:06 2013 (r253205) @@ -73,7 +73,8 @@ main(int argc, char *argv[]) { int ch, login; - euid = geteuid(); + if ((euid = geteuid()) != 0) + warnx("need root permissions to function properly, check setuid bit"); if (seteuid(getuid()) < 0) err(1, "seteuid"); _______________________________________________ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 11 12:50:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB5E45F for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:50:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8FD1B1A for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:50:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r6BCo31s079464 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:50:03 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r6BCo3iC079463; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:50:03 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:50:03 GMT Message-Id: <201307111250.r6BCo3iC079463@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) Subject: Re: docs/167741: commit references a PR X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: dfilter service List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:50:03 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/167741; it has been noted by GNATS. From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/167741: commit references a PR Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:49:25 +0000 (UTC) Author: des Date: Thu Jul 11 12:49:12 2013 New Revision: 253206 URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/253206 Log: MFH (r246552): mention newgrp(1) and how to change the group password. PR: docs/167741 Modified: stable/9/share/man/man5/group.5 Directory Properties: stable/9/share/man/man5/ (props changed) Modified: stable/9/share/man/man5/group.5 ============================================================================== --- stable/9/share/man/man5/group.5 Thu Jul 11 12:47:06 2013 (r253205) +++ stable/9/share/man/man5/group.5 Thu Jul 11 12:49:12 2013 (r253206) @@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ .\" From: @(#)group.5 8.3 (Berkeley) 4/19/94 .\" $FreeBSD$ .\" -.Dd September 29, 1994 +.Dd February 8, 2013 .Dt GROUP 5 .Os .Sh NAME @@ -139,6 +139,7 @@ may still have this limit. .It Pa /etc/group .El .Sh SEE ALSO +.Xr newgrp 1 , .Xr passwd 1 , .Xr setgroups 2 , .Xr crypt 3 , @@ -156,9 +157,14 @@ file format appeared in .At v6 . Support for comments first appeared in .Fx 3.0 . -.Sh BUGS +.Sh IMPLEMENTATION NOTES The .Xr passwd 1 command does not change the .Nm passwords. +The +.Xr pw 8 +utility's +.Cm groupmod +command should be used instead. _______________________________________________ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 11 15:25:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646A2ECB for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 15:25:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dyokunev@ut.mephi.ru) Received: from mail.ut.mephi.ru (nexus.ut.mephi.ru [194.67.76.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9B1144C for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 15:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [194.67.76.242] (unknown [194.67.76.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dyokunev@ut.mephi.ru) by mail.ut.mephi.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 31A04183DFC0E for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 19:18:31 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ut.mephi.ru; s=default; t=1373555911; bh=a7XBvsp9T8apNUABK/vUhduG+DHtVQx1k/X4REZXRUA=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=SacDZeH14jQymf+lnThiiQ3pKOFgZF/aiP7YSVbg17c2m8PzFccDk1lamxkKOF4c3 JObAihIKEJ5MC88otVr76ymP+vdWltHlTIpY3g7HID3/YryTSMJ38PuL495m2vBx5X 2lUjnh8v7yjNa1qefZoZDBDbR5lm61akuicex61H9xiVbKToSfcaJ+HJWzpOH0Z+NX 80IssUHIeDbyvLjJthG5lCSfXI1NZq8DPoUTmcBHmag6cUxPlDlq94YGWTREbNPOiG GuDazfZ8frd7nc9ubmG30vAJ74GALlWGFqXukOkrFAW+eFoA2ARHwtlJdDc4i1Nmnw XzHkP3gUxUSGuGdntm9He3+rxZF4yLYeNyGY8esMFMgV9l8UJ56OsXM/JrJPt8bnG7 fAQ5iOSzmvOaMlkb/nDEzFIxZTGeOwfPpKMwQC1fGWwCm5bn2JWYsH7UXg7JNWKIIu Ek91yLU5IQRCoRNRUw+WAiq4KgAjX2WY72Vfy+MXn7xyNRlWE0bEa8HFyM9ay9A8u5 W9zJdcTzJNm0LUwC/+bRpj2BKtNXeeLUeXSQtva4zUWnxnN3NQ6K4qSWJTSlZSxgFa kG2WA5S39Fx8D4NSZr+qafO1/LLPxAqpMHPqaTXMXODYYOfXS5ByzEmRrXXYXVsKnM Hl24NT0i6lcpGWcxVLJaJsQM= Message-ID: <51DECCBE.7030206@ut.mephi.ru> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 19:18:22 +0400 From: Dmitry Yu Okunev Organization: NRNU MEPhI User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Broken links on http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/hubs/mirror-requirements.html X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="----enig2RXLSUGTLGXSEIGTNAHXD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 15:25:05 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2RXLSUGTLGXSEIGTNAHXD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello. 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This was extremely confusing when attempting to boot single-user, as all messages prior to the single-user prompt are produced on the vid terminal (and on the external console), however at the moment that single-user mode is entered, the mirroring ceases. While it is now clear what happened, the effect is that single-user mode appears to be unavailable. I have no /boot.config file that would indicate which console is meant to be used for messages. >How-To-Repeat: Add these lines to /boot/loader.conf, attempt to boot single user. >Fix: I would suggest adding some text to the handbook page "Setting up the Serial Console" http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html#serialconsole-loader Currently, these page makes no comment regarding single-user mode whatsoever. Informing the user that configuring the console may well have repercussions on entry to single-user mode will lessen confusion in the future. I would therefore suggest adding the following text into section 26.6.6 "Setting up the Console from the Boot Loader", subsection 26.6.6.1 "Setting Up the Serial Console": Note that entry to single-user mode will only honour input on one console, even if multiple consoles are indicated using the console boot option. Care must be taken that the first named console is available to the system manager entering single-user mode. I will note that the first sentence in this section "The boot loader and the kernel to use the serial console can be specified by writing one line in /boot/loader.conf" seems very poorly written -- I do not understand what this line is attempting to say. Additionally, there is already a section "26.6.7 Caveats"; a note here indicating possible effects on single-user boot would probably not go amiss. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 12 17:19:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0C8D62 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 17:19:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelbehr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22c.google.com (mail-wi0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2D91173 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 17:19:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id c10so940760wiw.5 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 10:19:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lNdjm7FPsH5/Q7cNcMeqAepi9Tgp4cgG8cHkAsRe8TU=; b=U5nPzaqGehMy7Ww1OCmnQTtefTN+vng6ty6Ee+kqfG2/BcU5nO/jaANaXppWV7YJ94 Ld44hoOaBztO/hnKNoo2XOsqhSZjFVh83mESfayqrZ9rM+IbdxfVzyuBa0CXdGTmDYYe 8WRIZd01l2VVAISozzZa5ndQ1PoiXGIVWXw8nEW/GXKTakeOEMNERz+wC0/pPUqHdHMu Akm4DuqLqjLiX+UrGkVYObaI7j6TOUjNfTaxJoeQP/jUG/FQEXkICrrzeEyxHNA31mrT gGN16iH5QtBp3ZADw3GTzqV+1xAgR+z/nIiunosYph2raBs/NNvaq7ObqOuVNsOCJkdO CLqg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.83.68 with SMTP id o4mr2315568wiy.5.1373649569781; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 10:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.70.19 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 10:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 14:19:29 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: I want to subscribe to the freebsd mail list From: Michel Behr To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 17:19:31 -0000 hi how do i subscribe to the freebsd mail list? thx Michel. 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Sat, 13 Jul 2013 11:51:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lurieaustin@outlook.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s19.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s19.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077A21C90 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 11:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY174-DS13 ([65.54.190.59]) by bay0-omc1-s19.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 13 Jul 2013 04:50:46 -0700 X-TMN: [BlsIH3PN+nkMRTaj6XtVk10LCQ2qt4Gd] X-Originating-Email: [lurieaustin@outlook.com] Message-ID: From: Lurie Austinser To: Subject: Updating broken link from your page: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 13:50:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac5/vzo08zm/npSmT5S9sNpPjBUHmQ== Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jul 2013 11:50:46.0094 (UTC) FILETIME=[35F346E0:01CE7FBF] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: lurieaustin@outlook.com List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 11:51:52 -0000 Hello, I have bumped into your site while seeking for software and found your website very interesting :) Just a quick note, http://www.dvdrw.com/ is no longer active, and you are linking to it from page - http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html I was wondering if you don't mind updating the link to the updated website en.DownloadAstro.com (http://en.downloadastro.com/) - A great download site with more than 300K software and games, including professional reviews and user ratings. We are now in a process of updating the links in websites all around the world and I will appreciate your cooperation. I am sure your users will find it useful. Thanks, Lurie