From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 00:18:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F0119B for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:18:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wd@us-webmasters.com) Received: from super.grabweb.com (super.grabweb.com [64.237.47.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34321762 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:18:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25194 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2013 18:11:22 -0600 Received: from batv-01-092.dsl.netins.net (HELO Erika.US-Webmasters.com) (207.199.193.92) by 64.237.47.169.choopa.net with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 26 Jan 2013 18:11:21 -0600 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 18:11:14 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: "W. D." Subject: Cronjob Cvsup -> What? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20130127001805.97F0119B@hub.freebsd.org> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:18:05 -0000 According to: http://www.freebsd.org/news/2012-compromise.html Cvsup is deprecated. If I have a Cron entry like: #----------------------------------------------------------------- #Min Hr DOM Mnth DOW Command # At 3:46 in the morning, everyday, as root, update the ports tree: 46 3 * * * /usr/local/bin/cvsup -h = cvsup12.FreeBSD.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile=20 #----------------------------------------------------------------- What should I use: freebsd-update, Subversion, portsnap, or what? What would be the best Cron command to keep ports updated on a daily basis? Thanks for any help you can provide. Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $9.99 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 00:19:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FCA241 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:19:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from smtprelay04.ispgateway.de (smtprelay04.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47AA1777 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.2.38.9] (helo=wombat.mininet) by smtprelay04.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1TzFxi-0008Na-Ur for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 01:19:07 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 24.2.1 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I); VM 8.1.2 under 24.2.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20740.29373.958333.777272@wombat.mininet> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 01:20:13 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lagg problems (or lack of understanding?) In-Reply-To: <20130126083839.3fced29d@X220.ovitrap.com> References: <20739.7055.151377.161980@wombat.mininet> <20130126083839.3fced29d@X220.ovitrap.com> From: markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de X-Df-Sender: NDcyNTgy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:19:14 -0000 Erich Dollansky writes: > Hi, > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 00:55:59 +0100 > markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de wrote: > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-aggregation.html > > > > Specifically, I use the rc.conf entries mentioned in the box at the > > very bottom on the page, except that my ethernet interface is re0 > > instead of bge0. The lagg module is loaded during boot using an > > appropriate entry in /boot/loader.conf. > > > if you could post your settings here? > Oh yes, certainly, although I think that I use pretty much exactly what the instructions said. /boot/loader.conf: verbose_loading="YES" # print verbose loader output during boot coretemp_load="YES" # intel temp sensor support hw.psm.synaptics_support="1" # improved touchpad support atapicam_load="YES" # access CD drive through SCSI subsystem cuse4bsd_load="YES" # required for webcamd sem_load="YES" # required by firefox for displaying HTML5 if_lagg_load="YES" #link aggregation /etc/rc.conf: hostname="wombat.mininet" ifconfig_re0="up" ifconfig_iwn0="ether 00:1e:33:26:4c:3e" wlans_iwn0="wlan0" ifconfig_wlan0="WPA" cloned_interfaces="lagg0" ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport re0 laggport wlan0 DHCP" sshd_enable="YES" moused_enable="NO" powerd_enable="YES" powerd_flags="-a max -b adaptive -i 90" cupsd_enable="YES" mysql_enable="YES" linux_enable="YES" dbus_enable="YES" hald_enable="NO" anacron_enable="YES" # Set dumpdev to "AUTO" to enable crash dumps, "NO" to disable dumpdev="NO" # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Thu Feb 16 22:33:22 2012 rpcbind_enable="YES" rpc_statd_enable="YES" rpc_lockd_enable="YES" nfs_server_enable="YES" nfs_client_enable="YES" devfs_system_ruleset="localrules" fusefs_enable="YES" Is there anything suspcicious? regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 01:46:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5571D9E for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 01:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wd@us-webmasters.com) Received: from super.grabweb.com (super.grabweb.com [64.237.47.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354E197C for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 01:46:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18519 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2013 19:46:05 -0600 Received: from batv-01-092.dsl.netins.net (HELO Erika.US-Webmasters.com) (207.199.193.92) by 64.237.47.169.choopa.net with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 26 Jan 2013 19:46:04 -0600 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 19:45:59 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: "W. D." Subject: Tried to install 9.1 from bootonly -> won't boot Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20130127014607.A5571D9E@hub.freebsd.org> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 01:46:07 -0000 I get to the logo screen where it says: 1. Boot [Enter] 2. etc. 3. etc. Won't accept any keyboard input, not even Ctrl-C, or Ctrl-Alt-Del. Am using PS/2 Keyboard and mouse through my trusty PS/2 KVM switches. Any ideas or do I just stick with 8.3? Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $9.99 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 02:57:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98ECA429 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 02:57:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnagyjr1978@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gh0-f182.google.com (mail-gh0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B0FB01 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 02:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-gh0-f182.google.com with SMTP id z15so258710ghb.13 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 18:57:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hK//QVX55DXFQKwmPTfmSZDZXobrs8w2dhamKEEqlZ0=; b=AVFjYXLzCK+pa5bqAOGrzkONQ7aclu61q6OUP9/GDYudm+1eOm3eGAbx2gU14ZoTrt C+WgFL9w7DCCaW/yk2q+6h6f0zB3BJRmTP5lkttpHtrA2vuBooOvyVSrU+X6YLSTDDNX 6LljqIYJDzNZN+dtQoUN37EyH9gjXHCvL03D0Q8UdgjYED7qxsmt3enKrtRvNeCDMcCe VFgcBnW+ekCsHQNpVNJCgy9UclrVfEYJ1FFG3JbbHQvjqP15KaaiRlhYdIfP3vxqi7Td ZBBJNggGjm0/qeuBk8OYLIb5psOIz9DG/Mrwmj1nwlyD4tv3lxwWllM+y+n8AvnfyB3J aHwA== X-Received: by 10.236.160.70 with SMTP id t46mr11852438yhk.4.1359255432407; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 18:57:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.3] (24-183-225-51.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com. [24.183.225.51]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d19sm5198236anm.18.2013.01.26.18.57.10 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 26 Jan 2013 18:57:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <51049785.2050101@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:57:09 -0600 From: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130112 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jimmy Olgeni , "Questions @ FreeBSD" Subject: Re: [OT-ish] Need a Binary for lang/sml-nj References: <51041F2E.6090008@gmail.com> <51044400.8030602@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 02:57:13 -0000 On 01/26/13 15:52, Jimmy Olgeni wrote: > > Hello, > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2013, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: > >> The pkg repo's are down. I'm not sure how you got it to work (if you >> did). It will not work on this end, thanks though. > > It seems to work from here. Maybe with a mirror? > > ftp://ftp1.us.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9.0-release/lang/smlnj-110.0.7_3.tbz > > root@alex-laptop:/root # pkg add ftp://ftp1.us.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9.0-release/lang/smlnj-110.0.7_3.tbz smlnj-110.0.7_3.tbz 100% 3203KB 1.0MB/s 2.4MB/s 00:03 pkg: ./smlnj-110.0.7_3.tbz is not a valid package: no +MANIFEST found pkg: ./smlnj-110.0.7_3.tbz is not a valid package: no +MANIFEST found Failed to install the following 1 package(s): ftp://ftp1.us.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9.0-release/lang/smlnj-110.0.7_3.tbz -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr "Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid." -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 04:34:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A53ACAE for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 04:34:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E55E9F for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 04:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.53]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32275A71554 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:34:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29088 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2013 04:34:24 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 25328, pid: 2498, t: 0.3112s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:13495 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 27 Jan 2013 04:34:24 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF9833C1E; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:34:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 0F3CB39855; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:34:16 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "W. D." Subject: Re: Cronjob Cvsup -> What? References: <20130127001805.97F0119B@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:34:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20130127001805.97F0119B@hub.freebsd.org> (W. D.'s message of "Sat, 26 Jan 2013 18:11:14 -0600") Message-ID: <44d2wrw8fs.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 04:34:34 -0000 "W. D." writes: > According to: > > http://www.freebsd.org/news/2012-compromise.html > > Cvsup is deprecated. If I have a Cron entry like: > > #----------------------------------------------------------------- > #Min Hr DOM Mnth DOW Command > > # At 3:46 in the morning, everyday, as root, update the ports tree: > 46 3 * * * /usr/local/bin/cvsup -h cvsup12.FreeBSD.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile > #----------------------------------------------------------------- > > What should I use: freebsd-update, Subversion, portsnap, or what? > > What would be the best Cron command to keep ports updated on a daily > basis? portsnap is almost certainly the best answer for you. freebsd-update is for the base system, not ports. If you needed version control features on your ports tree (especially if you were regularly contributing changes to ports), getting and updating your tree through subversion would have some extra features you might want, but it doesn't sound as if that is the case for you. Unless you have a specific reason why portsnap doesn't fit your use case, it's definitely the way to go for just keeping a ports tree updated regularly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 05:25:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D191D5 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 05:25:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brentgclarklist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f45.google.com (mail-wg0-f45.google.com [74.125.82.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937FE8E for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 05:25:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id dq12so1077199wgb.24 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:25:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UwLMvZ4deWwW+VuSeNh5qI1pOs8Xc36xb3KG9eFkv9g=; b=OZpVPdUaNFcMFy1y6/+hA0HkkkrTe0RCi4HKRZSBPtTF2DJMaqCtblYWnCN2cjN9XH lJVvki/STEEgRiPNKh2NB0i8G87ib4KdV4nhP7zj0AvVv617Asuy1lqN6kzwTPyvlKVT Hw7OkwLK0WNqYWTpdlAgnoI5SEhpim0LCIL1eOm6mQtL/mPRtXkPxxrxGou34x5Wc+Pi faq8NLZqNgB2EmT4zcG7ch+aMZMmBFnoMvI7EM3vpsKxY5DyfOAmFjsQLHQwTNCVrlOZ e4exf5jkONAO7yj+YZRT2vfK1Wo/kHwfm2W0OmEr/EJbKaAc1pxeurYHuMjGtNvMB/34 Nkgw== X-Received: by 10.180.19.136 with SMTP id f8mr4236813wie.0.1359264337366; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:25:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.0.8] (41-133-239-215.dsl.mweb.co.za. [41.133.239.215]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ew4sm6368139wid.11.2013.01.26.21.25.35 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:25:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5104BAD5.2030005@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:27:49 +0200 From: Brent Clark User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.11) Gecko/20121122 Icedove/10.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD server for sons tv shows. please help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 05:25:39 -0000 Good day Im not it its because of a power failure or what, but for some reason my 'download server', has lost its raid (0/ stripe). Im trying to fix this, for the raid contains quite a few shows for my son. If I go [root@torry /usr/home/bclark]# gstripe list Geom name: st0 State: UP Status: Total=3, Online=3 Type: AUTOMATIC Stripesize: 65536 ID: 1006591079 Providers: 1. Name: stripe/st0 Mediasize: 360102297600 (335G) Sectorsize: 512 Stripesize: 65536 Stripeoffset: 0 Mode: r0w0e0 Consumers: 1. Name: ada0 Mediasize: 120034123776 (111G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 Number: 0 2. Name: ada1 Mediasize: 120034123776 (111G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 Number: 2 3. Name: ada4 Mediasize: 120034123776 (111G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 Number: 1 I see 'State: UP' if i: [root@torry /usr/home/bclark]# mount -t ufs /dev/stripe/st0a /mnt/ mount: /dev/stripe/st0a: Invalid argument [root@torry /usr/home/bclark]# fsck /dev/stripe/st0a fsck: Could not determine filesystem type [root@torry /usr/home/bclark]# fsck_ufs /dev/stripe/st0a ** /dev/stripe/st0a Cannot find file system superblock ioctl (GCINFO): Inappropriate ioctl for device fsck_ufs: /dev/stripe/st0a: can't read disk label If someone could help, it would be appreciated, of what the next step is, it would be appreciated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 07:10:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD25873 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@aboutsupport.com) Received: from mail-ea0-f177.google.com (mail-ea0-f177.google.com [209.85.215.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0593A2B8 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:10:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f177.google.com with SMTP id n13so700776eaa.36 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:10:39 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=e0HdzDBnndDmYSim9WoBH49eSVGj/SYP+B/W73hnRB4=; b=KqaNfxOTmiEU8Zf1nmO/I9NEXejNM3pCb5pXRC/2gIV55khId4ok/r/lagz3UgowYZ wXR6b4b5dL+KtjfkAd4lWy9m0B0PGok9d9q6NaQzwsOM2Yl862o8T++yox1WEXUyRZ3o KySr1DhlDaN3c0D+DRUmPIrEcXkndmgJFBHnhJbHEWJs07kJ2tut01z1dq1W6J+76v8I LpDANDmReHGYqMDPsDoOYrUiTLF/63m6f+KcmlTZhKcq1REdLJ+1oZpkG2lqSkVTu+SW BROpUvamfKUzYEmjgUqyOB3Mx9rfWrdHv2VhZWngokhEpYO4pq0p/XujTAIEjR1LSWIp 62SA== X-Received: by 10.14.174.198 with SMTP id x46mr37848230eel.23.1359270639329; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:10:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.30.151] ([95.87.236.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 46sm9916905eeg.4.2013.01.26.23.10.38 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:10:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5104D2EA.1050901@aboutsupport.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:10:34 +0200 From: "Zyumbilev, Peter" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: jails bind ip References: <5103D759.5060008@aboutsupport.com> <51040A68.2010008@a1poweruser.com> <51041353.4050503@aboutsupport.com> <51044546.1070005@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <51044546.1070005@a1poweruser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlFWoNEVDEfnL7F3jqDcepo3rWBw2wbdEoYGDDkqARkCPyfo1qQr9+ikADrWh1bHKDxFqR0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:10:46 -0000 On 26/01/2013 23:06, Fbsd8 wrote: > Zyumbilev, Peter wrote: >>> Are you saying you installed the Debian 6.0 operating system >>> inside of a Freebsd jail and expect it to function? >>> >>> >> >> >> on top of all works ;-) Look at mailing list archives earlier ...See >> mails from me. >> >> >> Peter > > > Ok I read the archive thread subject "jails". > You read a reply pointing you to a French howto. > > http://blog.etoilebsd.net/post/Emprisonner_une_debian_dans_un_FreeBSD > > I don't read French so have no idea what you did. > In another post you said you did this procedure > 1. Use > http://download.openvz.org/template/precreated/debian-6.0-x86.tar.gz > instead of the file listed in the French howto. > 2. Run sysctl compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.32 in Freebsd shell before > starting the jail, otherwise you will get error "kernel too old". > > Don't understand what you mean by "shell" in the the above #2 sentence. > > The info you provided is so lacking in details. People here on the list > are not going to try to duplicate your steps just to get a understanding > of your situation. > > When asking a question it's your job to describe in detail what your > situation is. What your trying to achieve by using a jail. What > applications you installed in your jail. The jail statements you used to > create your jail. So on and so forth. > > No details results in no replies. > If you want helpful replies start with more and better details. > > From a very general point of view. You can populate a jails directory > tree with anything you want and the jail will still start. Having the > jail start does not mean anything you put in side of the jail is > working. Which is what I think is happening in your case. > > With out details I can not help you any further. > > Good luck. > > Hi, I know chances are slim someone to help. I believe my question is asked right. Even if noone can help it was worth asking - at least you learned that debian can run inside Freebsd :-) You know the idea is everyone to learn from this. Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 08:15:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5674A69A for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:15:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm25-vm2.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm25-vm2.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.109.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 63F2A666 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.232] by nm25.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 08:15:10 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.45] by tm13.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 08:15:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp178.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 08:15:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359274510; bh=TLsqOc3djX64DMqTP8f5Kad9rt67iaTVI6HLtIUh01Q=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=Eye9YlzzY2qUMAhxmDBUmct6dWCSxJvrB9lZIJLEYDKgRfO7QYC1ScElwSrqn/+SEjxvLgBU3u1lza0WvX8D2NwtdbpBL8EXL+EtiCfWm2MXVaz9cb1igWvfXZ6t/YfQch5c5ahuYCkHpCGa6Q5oeDB7zhMTI8gaZUtq+V9IG8o= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 191258.37251.bm@smtp178.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: KZvB0NMVM1nrTDRai30.TSewi6ro82VTN6TDLH6R6O4Tmje qpTSV3uusHBVzzwz.YUI2armVfOHL_tuMixlryK_O.wwtxQs9fhjjlSABbxY xRYGaIJdHtHZ06YqtfCyzAaJrmZInYB2aPnMbyeCJQABWmjTFPEGV0nr3VyD Cbz5UhOqU1WSZndcxG3SxaoAMvOXzLNHVIwtEK0WeE9vkdE57.HGmt6U1uAE aKy_vrBi_aLJjsjpsIRKbxXv7PuPU51hB1phOUpfYmMSGSvuMWLrwp1ufFOe ylqqd97it7nD15yE3Im._fqsbuxAlitiGWg6_E5rzeyurJx5WiJishsAf5up 2aIt4eBuepYNZJx.0zS7ishsncJohkuqVddVdfLDgjwMDhVgSShwwR_lhDRa voupbKAougPu_hecWdF1ng5XPfIrA9VzqZ8vnOHY34Q-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@92.231.6.61 with login) by smtp178.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2013 08:15:10 +0000 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD References: <20130125133346.f1484ed8.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125150414.f262d162.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125161215.f498f4e4.freebsd@edvax.de> <5102FE7B.4070808@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:15:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5102FE7B.4070808@gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:15:19 -0000 Good morning, if I run 'make deinstall reinstall' for a port, it doesn't ask a single question, at least not for dbus. # ls -l /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon -r-xr-xr-x 1 rocketmouse wheel 377744 Jan 18 22:44 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon # cd /usr/ports/devel/dbus ; make deinstall reinstall # ls -l /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 377744 Jan 27 08:55 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon Is there a command to deinstall and reinstall all ports or an idea for a script to do it? Do I have to reboot into single user mode and then to run "make installworld" only to reinstall world? Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 08:35:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040E27E6 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:35:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@aboutsupport.com) Received: from mail-ea0-f175.google.com (mail-ea0-f175.google.com [209.85.215.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9936DE for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:35:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f175.google.com with SMTP id d1so722672eab.20 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:35:08 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=Z8PH03tqIUc+tG/czkZf/UNaWKH7tdq7Cbkr196qAxI=; b=kevqZH4luxU6PhZex218YP32iEZ1A1rcU2qmsKLvqihFImWnVKz6C5en6PSBkSPN91 59FoVbspOgQY1dGjmz0LO5HIWLwSd+hcUVcvqkujwEO56wyT17UqPm1B/JBjwJastSBS vgFKwfWC41mKfCmBkxp5tiW4YurbtfB+sskg5OTJPWOaKgqqAIQ2YJRz4PhcInvyR3lb fxaqV8/w5g0fC3eBTvCD7JiM6CA8WqSYxoOpMdibYtXTI20ZgH2+TUHnwz59I0OTV1EI TRrGZwiFUMNb1HT6VX+ITGk6zCAEpDMXBgxDaScUNgJgCtZtKyb0p7x0IAOPNYM2QwMO jFyA== X-Received: by 10.14.193.131 with SMTP id k3mr38506955een.45.1359275708724; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:35:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.30.151] ([95.87.236.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e2sm10221589eeo.8.2013.01.27.00.35.07 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:35:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5104E6B7.9070302@aboutsupport.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:35:03 +0200 From: "Zyumbilev, Peter" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Cronjob Cvsup -> What? References: <20130127001805.97F0119B@hub.freebsd.org> <44d2wrw8fs.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44d2wrw8fs.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl1hBhsO8sR3IZBPOLAe81XL/7cocH/hdbv7gj1+Qw5fx6aLwZ4c5D3+DxEghhXhcka5kfr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:35:17 -0000 On 27/01/2013 06:34, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > If you needed version control features on your ports tree (especially if > you were regularly contributing changes to ports), getting and updating > your tree through subversion would have some extra features you might > want, but it doesn't sound as if that is the case for you. > > Unless you have a specific reason why portsnap doesn't fit your use > case, it's definitely the way to go for just keeping a ports tree > updated regularly. Last 10 years I am using cvsup. Any good guide for the transition to subversion ? For ports is easy(portsnap), but I for system update I still have problems saying good bye to old habits and I still use cvsup...:-) Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 08:38:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9AF914 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:38:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9B0E70E for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:38:50 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=rUrUyz+0fe1Gfs3vDjYMBOa0/lhaiLw945E+3Aml9+4=; b=xAG3y+9tGC1cd9AEa8AymMUOMj19vWv3QII3bgIqiI+Qkv5y9fWAMg1pbh+J0ikctvj5jMOYk1suqTP1vIfyqzwW2jmOf07ezKWJHYWB+RfOqOXNvToxrilM0u9Y+Wvx; Received: from [122.129.203.50] (port=46795 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TzNlD-000QKG-Bv; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 01:38:44 -0700 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:38:38 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: "Ralf Mardorf" Subject: Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD Message-ID: <20130127153838.15b97613@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20130125133346.f1484ed8.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125150414.f262d162.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125161215.f498f4e4.freebsd@edvax.de> <5102FE7B.4070808@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:38:51 -0000 Hi, On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:15:09 +0100 "Ralf Mardorf" wrote: > Good morning, ood morning? The sun is settling soon! > > if I run 'make deinstall reinstall' for a port, it doesn't ask a > single question, at least not for dbus. > > # ls -l /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon > -r-xr-xr-x 1 rocketmouse wheel 377744 Jan 18 22:44 > /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon > > # cd /usr/ports/devel/dbus ; make deinstall reinstall > > # ls -l /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 377744 Jan 27 > 08:55 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon > > Is there a command to deinstall and reinstall all ports or an idea > for a script to do it? > Check portupgrade or one of other utilities to handle ports. There is one option to force an upgrade even if it would be a downgrade. > Do I have to reboot into single user mode and then to run "make > installworld" only to reinstall world? No, you just run it as root. It should work afterword except for currently running programs. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 09:22:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0CBC6A for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:22:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C137F9 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:22:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0R9M34U050202 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:22:04 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.7.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r0R9M34U050202 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/r0R9M34U050202; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (insecure policy) Message-ID: <5104F1B2.2030101@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:21:54 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" Subject: Re: [OT-ish] Need a Binary for lang/sml-nj References: <51041F2E.6090008@gmail.com> <51044400.8030602@gmail.com> <51049785.2050101@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <51049785.2050101@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="----enig2EUWOWPVLOXOCADUTLWUL" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "Questions @ FreeBSD" , Jimmy Olgeni X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:22:09 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2EUWOWPVLOXOCADUTLWUL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 27/01/2013 02:57, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: > On 01/26/13 15:52, Jimmy Olgeni wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> On Sat, 26 Jan 2013, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: >> >>> The pkg repo's are down. I'm not sure how you got it to work (if you >>> did). It will not work on this end, thanks though. >> >> It seems to work from here. Maybe with a mirror? >> >> ftp://ftp1.us.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9.0-release/= lang/smlnj-110.0.7_3.tbz >> >> >> >=20 > root@alex-laptop:/root # pkg add > ftp://ftp1.us.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9.0-release/l= ang/smlnj-110.0.7_3.tbz >=20 > smlnj-110.0.7_3.tbz 100% 3203KB 1.0MB/s 2.4MB/s 00:= 03 > pkg: ./smlnj-110.0.7_3.tbz is not a valid package: no +MANIFEST found > pkg: ./smlnj-110.0.7_3.tbz is not a valid package: no +MANIFEST found >=20 > Failed to install the following 1 package(s): > ftp://ftp1.us.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9.0-release/l= ang/smlnj-110.0.7_3.tbz >=20 Trying to install a pkg_tools style package with pkgng is not going to wo= rk. At least, not with pkg-1.0.6. pkgng-1.1 will have the capability of converting from pkg_tools to pkgng format. And vice-versa. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey ------enig2EUWOWPVLOXOCADUTLWUL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEE8bsACgkQ8Mjk52CukIz33QCfZs/BxZp77ubOEHigCtO9Fas+ xz4AnAu6hRv4/96MeHhTs/cmfHcjooEp =k5d4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------enig2EUWOWPVLOXOCADUTLWUL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 09:46:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70161AC for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:46:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4C388F for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:46:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0R9kpwT050595 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:46:51 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.7.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r0R9kpwT050595 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1359280012; bh=rBmqzZ8arBK4sS9iBzxkFVLhiHUWMDIBrEggk6rzh9c=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Sun,=2027=20Jan=202013=2009:46:51=20+0000|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20"W.=20D."=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org|Subject:= 20Re:=20Cronjob=20Cvsup=20->=20What?|References:=20<20130127001805 .97F0119B@hub.freebsd.org>|In-Reply-To:=20<20130127001805.97F0119B @hub.freebsd.org>; b=BkyDpzT8tdzoXUlZbp1KsBfNipF6AuXqzXDc0urXWG0ENe36bLr09NCRS8wL7P0N0 qV+/HuR4sVBBwznRSaKgcYUyAAf2yXseWzNeWSrK7tDHOnTB0nSWnZO1nH+VL4s+JI DF2Zl67N9TCLPExDdVLhoX1O/fbfYkhDNC77wE6w= Message-ID: <5104F78B.8050408@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:46:51 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "W. D." Subject: Re: Cronjob Cvsup -> What? References: <20130127001805.97F0119B@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20130127001805.97F0119B@hub.freebsd.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="----enig2WQVKPAXWIPGSTFCLPLWC" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:46:56 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2WQVKPAXWIPGSTFCLPLWC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 27/01/2013 00:11, W. D. wrote: > What would be the best Cron command to keep ports updated on a daily > basis? Try this as a crontab entry: 0 3 * * * * /usr/sbin/portsnap cron update Two points to note: 1) The 'cron' verb is important for anyone setting up an automated job like this. It causes portsnap to wait for a random number of seconds (but less than 1 hour) before connecting to the portsnap server. Since the tendency is for people to schedule cron jobs to happen on the hour, this helps to avoid everyone connecting at once and smooths out the server load. 2) This assumes that you have previously run portsnap fetch extract to get yourself a portsnap-ready copy of the ports tree. You only need to do that once, but you should move aside any pre-existing copy of /usr/ports obtained by any means other than portsnap(8) before you do (but keep anything under /usr/ports/distfiles and maybe /usr/ports/packages). Something like: cd /usr mv ports ports.old mkdir ports mv ports.old/distfiles ports/distfiles mv ports.old/packages ports/packages portsnap fetch extract Although this may be complicated if any of /usr/ports, /usr/ports/distfiles or /usr/ports/packages are on a separate partition or ZFS. I say 'move aside' due to the caution imbued by having been a professional sysadmin for more years than I care to remember. If you are still convinced of your own infallibility, then you might find rm(1) an acceptable alternative. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk ------enig2WQVKPAXWIPGSTFCLPLWC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEE94sACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxr3wCfa41q/s6KlUgCXy0MaSHWI37w xoQAn1zmH5/O7TiRncDM/jb0Z22nApd9 =1pSj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------enig2WQVKPAXWIPGSTFCLPLWC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 10:11:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1696B1 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:11:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout07.plus.net (avasout07.plus.net [84.93.230.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E103F951 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:11:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout07 with smtp id sy7r1k002516WCc01y7s7T; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:07:52 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H5sFNZki c=1 sm=1 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=Fu_n5yJQHbEA:10 a=WrV8zJ25IEQA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=Y_vyGYvwhgUA:10 a=sX4WxmL5i8iZqzbqyDAA:9 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1TzP9S-0001W8-GB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:07:51 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:07:49 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.8.4; amd64; ; ) References: <20130127001805.97F0119B@hub.freebsd.org> <5104F78B.8050408@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5104F78B.8050408@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201301271007.49978.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Subject: Re: Cronjob Cvsup -> What? Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:11:02 -0000 On Sunday 27 Jan 2013 09:46:51 Matthew Seaman wrote: > to get yourself a portsnap-ready copy of the ports tree. You only need > to do that once, but you should move aside any pre-existing copy of > /usr/ports obtained by any means other than portsnap(8) before you do > (but keep anything under /usr/ports/distfiles and maybe > /usr/ports/packages). Something like: > > cd /usr > mv ports ports.old > mkdir ports > mv ports.old/distfiles ports/distfiles > mv ports.old/packages ports/packages > portsnap fetch extract > > Although this may be complicated if any of /usr/ports, > /usr/ports/distfiles or /usr/ports/packages are on a separate partition > or ZFS. I suppose the best approach with ZFS would be to make a snapshot immediately prior to running portsnap. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 10:46:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD68CAE4 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:46:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1CAA52 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:46:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0RAkVlg051642 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:46:31 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.7.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r0RAkVlg051642 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/r0RAkVlg051642; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (insecure policy) Message-ID: <5105057F.3090108@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:46:23 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Zyumbilev, Peter" Subject: Re: Cronjob Cvsup -> What? References: <20130127001805.97F0119B@hub.freebsd.org> <44d2wrw8fs.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <5104E6B7.9070302@aboutsupport.com> In-Reply-To: <5104E6B7.9070302@aboutsupport.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="----enig2GOCWRGMPNESSEUDMLIWB" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:46:40 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2GOCWRGMPNESSEUDMLIWB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 27/01/2013 08:35, Zyumbilev, Peter wrote: > Last 10 years I am using cvsup. Any good guide for the transition to > subversion ? Most of the guides around freebsd.org are aimed at developers who will be using SVN read-write. For simple read-only use (ie. not checking anything into the repository) the following should suffice: 0) Install svn It isn't part of the base system, and it has too many external dependencies with different licensing terms for it to be bought in easily. There's been some discussion about this, but it hasn't happened yet. If it did, the imported version would be fairly minimal, and anyone wanting to use it for serious development would probably just grab the ports version anyhow. If all you want to do is pull down a copy of the sources then you can turn off most of the options to reduce the fairly large dependency tree to something more manageable: BDB=3Doff: Berkeley Database BOOK=3Doff: Install the Subversion Book ENHANCED_KEYWORD=3Don: Enhanced svn:keyword support FREEBSD_TEMPLATE=3Don: FreeBSD Project log template GNOME_KEYRING=3Doff: Build with GNOME Keyring auth support KDE_KWALLET=3Doff: Build with KDE KWallet auth support MAINTAINER_DEBUG=3Doff: Build debug version MOD_DAV_SVN=3Doff: mod_dav_svn module for Apache 2.X MOD_DONTDOTHAT=3Doff: mod_dontdothat for Apache 2.X NEON=3Doff: WebDAV/Delta-V repo access module (neon) P4_STYLE_MARKERS=3Doff: Perforce-style conflict markers SASL=3Doff: SASL support SERF=3Don: WebDAV/Delta-V repo access module (serf) STATIC=3Doff: Build static version (no shared libs) SVNAUTHZ_VALIDATE=3Doff: install svnauthz-validate SVNMUCC=3Doff: Install Multiple URL Command Client SVNSERVE_WRAPPER=3Doff: Enable svnserve wrapper TEST=3Doff: Run subversion test suite There is the new devel/subversion-static port which does all that, and compiles subversion with static linkage so it has *no* runtime dependencies on anything else. The disadvantage here is that if there is, say, a security hole discovered in the one of the libraries subversion links against, you won't secure the statically linked copy of subversion simply by updating to a fixed version of the shlib. subversion-static is really only intended for providing a one-off binary package that people can download and install in order to bootstrap a more standard FreeBSD environment. 1) Choose a SVN mirror close to you. Currently there are two choices: svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org -- Western USA svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org -- Eastern USA Use whichever one gives you best performance. Certainly from Europe at the moment us-east seems to be the best choice. The number of SVN mirrors and their global coverage should increase over time, but it will never need as many servers as the old cvsup network. The canonical list of SVN mirrors is here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/svn-mirrors.htm= l 2) Choose a protocol for access the SVN servers. Your choices in order of preference are svn:// https:// http:// Use svn:// for best performance. If you're concerned about MITM attacks injecting trojans into the FreeBSD sources, then use https and be sure to verify the certificate hashes on first connection. Otherwise, if you're stuck behind a restrictive firewall, use http:// 3) Choose which branch you want to mirror. It's relatively easy to switch between branches and doesn't involve downloading the entire contents of /usr/src all over again if you change your mind. However right now, the viable choices are head --- Current, the bleeding edge, really only suitable for development purposes stable/9 --- 9-STABLE Still a rapidly changing development branch, but not quite so close to the edge, and with less bleeding involved. stable/8 --- 8-STABLE Ditto. releng/9.1 --- 9.1-RELEASE This tracks any security patches to version 9.1. However, in this case you would be better advised to use freebsd-update(8) to maintain your /usr/src directory tree instead. Similarly releng/9.0 releng/8.3 releng/7.4 for other supported release versions. Don't be fooled into pulling down release/9.1.0 or the like -- this is not a *branch* but a *snapshot*. If you think you want release/9.1.0 then you really want releng/9.1 instead. 4) Make sure /usr/src is empty. Pre-existing files can cause you grief at some unexpected later date even if they don't cause the initial checkout to fail. 5) Put it all together. Run a command like so to check out the content of /usr/src for your chosen branch from your chosen SVN mirror using your chosen protocol: svn co {proto}://{svn-mirror}/base/{branch} /usr/src So, what I would do to checkout 9.1-STABLE from the us-east mirror using svn as the protocol is: svn co svn://svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org/base/stable/9 /usr/src Then wait for that to complete, as it's going to download a few hundred MB of code. Now, you generally only need to do that step one time. For regular updates to the sources, just run: cd /usr/src svn up This will re-use all the settings you chose above. If you want to change any of the settings then use 'svn switch' from the top to the checked-out tree (ie. cd /usr/src) -- this will avoid downloading the whole repo all over again... svn help switch -- read for clues svn switch ^stable/8 -- change to the 8.4-STABLE sources svn switch --relocate svn:// http:// -- use HTTP instead svn switch --relocate svn://svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org \ svn://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org -- switch to a different mirror To see what setting are currently in force: svn info Working out how to apply these instructions to /usr/ports or /usr/doc is left as an exercise. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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No reason to specifically set it. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 10:57:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809F9D7B for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15A5AAB for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0RAv9QD051838 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:57:10 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.7.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r0RAv9QD051838 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1359284230; bh=lKJ8Ylf4pxUpbg7iP0FDwobKEpqWEmgYGRQO81ZfRDo=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Sun,=2027=20Jan=202013=2010:57:09=20+0000|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20Mike=20Clarke= 20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.or g|Subject:=20Re:=20Cronjob=20Cvsup=20->=20What?|References:=20<201 30127001805.97F0119B@hub.freebsd.org>=20<5104F78B.8050408@infracan inophile.co.uk>=20<201301271007.49978.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> |In-Reply-To:=20<201301271007.49978.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>; b=YjjGNk4Z32hdn4nrT71MCRZAusHc68u9v5/nCGLMqZF4QGFcOOPfn8oJygtmT5FvK 4Dz/URi63jbxCIRsXhXN1y7Xarp82OT7lIlVihuhsd4qrf07moMKvAtSvtETa5DQX2 WCLdu+fhhxeoK/lUFD7k1aNtJPmQQ6brAQ/F0lUs= Message-ID: <51050805.7060008@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:57:09 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Clarke Subject: Re: Cronjob Cvsup -> What? References: <20130127001805.97F0119B@hub.freebsd.org> <5104F78B.8050408@infracaninophile.co.uk> <201301271007.49978.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <201301271007.49978.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="----enig2XMBWOOTPHOXFHLWESRCA" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:57:14 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2XMBWOOTPHOXFHLWESRCA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 27/01/2013 10:07, Mike Clarke wrote: > I suppose the best approach with ZFS would be to make a snapshot immedi= ately=20 > prior to running portsnap. Yes. That would do the trick quite neatly. In fact, snapshot before each time you run portsnap. Cheers Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk ------enig2XMBWOOTPHOXFHLWESRCA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEFCAUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxfhQCgidNNO4vv+OB6MVn+rAElmcxi HIsAn3enaIRJCNrZivy19JuCuUgvM9m9 =B5X3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------enig2XMBWOOTPHOXFHLWESRCA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 11:23:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E8822E for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:23:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@aboutsupport.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f45.google.com (mail-ee0-f45.google.com [74.125.83.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C745FB56 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f45.google.com with SMTP id b57so845584eek.4 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 03:23:01 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=eoz4+DOlyvYRTvLRvJtteuGUcAodu2tvYb5mlOBw4XU=; b=PVK3JCtz/ZxQNmx8bfdpsN1paWWOwSOmK+CituqVlVPaZAIpZtDVSG4+Cx3DzC6Dbp wJy4sICdJSxMYe/zZ4VH1UD/+RUC/N8rnGx3lHo3ZHZKVYlQ1AgNfD9Ao725pdtF1EfT t10qmvi3TtUY46QlazaS6qJytzo7eGdIOOxer/AidF5l5mh4zxeVenVXnqR1RZHYSOkY y3WDqWqgcR8pQ50mXomHpzKZV/cIHE7TBC3lhbzWiswodUouiBqjT0pd+9OR7sbK1Ngf H+xrVfyUb8Zn9MZmwokUBo94e7kwRiRKz7/0AYOJ8fKt4M+bOhhlEK2mIaCZjOsw12xo 4ffA== X-Received: by 10.14.214.67 with SMTP id b43mr39752868eep.33.1359285781154; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 03:23:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.30.151] ([95.87.236.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 43sm10854021eed.10.2013.01.27.03.22.59 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 03:23:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <51050E10.4050108@aboutsupport.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:22:56 +0200 From: "Zyumbilev, Peter" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: Cronjob Cvsup -> What? References: <20130127001805.97F0119B@hub.freebsd.org> <44d2wrw8fs.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <5104E6B7.9070302@aboutsupport.com> <5105057F.3090108@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <5105057F.3090108@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmfCjlFxbjm6zn7Vsd03khL0Gfw01YAXTqaXkZkkw4PozVx/XJn1j/TV6s6pZRJdOnZG0R7 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:23:08 -0000 On 27/01/2013 12:46, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Cheers, > > Matthew > Matthew, Fantastic howto ! Thanks ! Really a good job...as usual :-) Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 11:26:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1282E3 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:26:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olgeni@olgeni.com) Received: from olgeni.olgeni.com (olgeni.olgeni.com [31.171.246.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79EF0B81 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:26:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from olgeni.olgeni (dynamic-adsl-94-36-162-8.clienti.tiscali.it [94.36.162.8]) by olgeni.olgeni.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C35A217458A; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:20:06 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:20:05 +0100 (CET) From: Jimmy Olgeni X-X-Sender: olgeni@olgeni.olgeni To: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" Subject: Re: [OT-ish] Need a Binary for lang/sml-nj In-Reply-To: <51049785.2050101@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <51041F2E.6090008@gmail.com> <51044400.8030602@gmail.com> <51049785.2050101@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "Questions @ FreeBSD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:26:59 -0000 On Sat, 26 Jan 2013, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: > Failed to install the following 1 package(s): > ftp://ftp1.us.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9.0-release/lang/smlnj-110.0.7_3.tbz My fault - I didn't immediately connect "pkg repo" to pkgng :) I fired up a 9.1 VM and built an i386 package which should work better. http://people.freebsd.org/~olgeni/smlnj-110.0.7_3.txz -- jimmy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 12:28:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC38D1D8 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:28:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s23.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s23.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846AFDF8 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:28:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP416 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s23.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 04:27:01 -0800 X-EIP: [Lv69GR++GHeWKQdgseUzsFql97b8O1BF] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([76.182.104.150]) by BLU0-SMTP416.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 04:27:01 -0800 Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3YvCrz428zz2CG5l for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:26:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:26:59 -0500 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD Subject: KDE Mouse Themes X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2013 12:27:01.0332 (UTC) FILETIME=[9B820140:01CDFC89] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:28:09 -0000 I have KDE version 4.8.4 (4.8.4) installed on a FreeBSD-8.3 system. I have tried reading through the KDE documentation=3B however=2C I cannot find the setting on my system to change the mouse theme(s). According to the KDE documentation=2C the settings tab that should exist under "settings" does not. Is there some special package I have to install to get this ability? I cannot seem to find anything that specifically relates to this problem in the ports tree. I can do this so easily in an MS Windows environment=2C yet now I am just wasting time trying to do something that should be simple and intuitive. --=20 Carmel =E2=9C=8C carmel_ny@hotmail.com Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 12:58:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63415E57 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:58:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06592F1B for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:58:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-191.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.191]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A069A246F1; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:58:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0RCw6OZ001921; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:58:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:58:06 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD Message-Id: <20130127135806.4d19e997.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130127153838.15b97613@X220.ovitrap.com> References: <20130125133346.f1484ed8.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125150414.f262d162.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125161215.f498f4e4.freebsd@edvax.de> <5102FE7B.4070808@gmail.com> <20130127153838.15b97613@X220.ovitrap.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Ralf Mardorf , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:58:13 -0000 On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:38:38 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:15:09 +0100 > "Ralf Mardorf" wrote: > > > Good morning, > > ood morning? The sun is settling soon! The sun of the planet of the ood? Or the former Sun of one of the microsystems? :-) > > if I run 'make deinstall reinstall' for a port, it doesn't ask a > > single question, at least not for dbus. > > > > # ls -l /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 rocketmouse wheel 377744 Jan 18 22:44 > > /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon > > > > # cd /usr/ports/devel/dbus ; make deinstall reinstall > > > > # ls -l /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 377744 Jan 27 > > 08:55 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon > > > > Is there a command to deinstall and reinstall all ports or an idea > > for a script to do it? > > > Check portupgrade or one of other utilities to handle ports. There is > one option to force an upgrade even if it would be a downgrade. With tools like portmaster, this task can easily be automated. If you only will have to handle a few ports, using the "bare ports method" (make) is probably the easiest way (in case everything else stays definitely consistent). > > Do I have to reboot into single user mode and then to run "make > > installworld" only to reinstall world? > > No, you just run it as root. It should work afterword except for > currently running programs. The comment header of /usr/src/Makefile suggests installing the world in single user mode (steps 5 - 11). # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # [steps 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] # 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' # 8. `make delete-old' # 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -i, along with -U or -F). # 10. `reboot' # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) This should be the safest method. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 13:01:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B704F10 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:01:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40FE4F3D for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [93.132.104.4] (helo=wombat.mininet) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1TzRqG-0008UW-Oz for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:00:13 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 24.2.1 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I); VM 8.1.2 under 24.2.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20741.9503.917524.692034@wombat.mininet> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:01:19 +0100 To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: lagg problems (or lack of understanding?) In-Reply-To: <20130127055528.16f3906e@scorpio> References: <20739.7055.151377.161980@wombat.mininet> <20130126083839.3fced29d@X220.ovitrap.com> <20740.29373.958333.777272@wombat.mininet> <20130127055528.16f3906e@scorpio> From: markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de X-Df-Sender: NDcyNTgy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:01:14 -0000 Jerry writes: > On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 01:20:13 +0100 > markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de articulated: > > > hald_enable="NO" > > Its defaults to "NO". No reason to specifically set it. > That's correct. This is a leftover of an attempt to track down some problem which turned out to be influenced by hald. IIRC I needed hald only for xfburn as I use an external CD burner. This screwed up other stuff, so today I start hald manually in the rare cases where I need it. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 14:09:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6FE7B26 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:09:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-x22b.google.com (ia-in-x022b.1e100.net [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c02::22b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4484196 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:09:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f171.google.com with SMTP id z13so2998411iaz.2 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 06:09:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type; bh=HL9FHmLB8W1Wz5OWoA+9rGPyl/O4kJXMqQzij3JLb3o=; b=HVaTLurX2D+QABGbFlANWzNlO+vj4JWoLmJgBbGdVqHSioWHei0twch9IaLUjSCx+N 6R2QMEBJpWu9/uaY7MsImbYNNJlicIu4Bznk6ebUBhPY0ahDWN9Ut/FcH4hG5GNlT8t+ ZV7T87JtTLquwmpwfyQZocWSm3R7mqbVZ9M3oBRiYqK2QcmZVSYWd3xvuaGQ/CGH8Nt6 B8Eb/MuLDIU8wbSazQKqAlTbh/tErSoghbZsD5br27vNSbwI/oR/rRT35DRBC9HfAa2F HpQKLGDfsF/du2/A61W7C7flU1OoYWp0G3dN+tKvJEkLGCdk8esrKDDJCz17uP0evCMT JWgQ== X-Received: by 10.50.7.234 with SMTP id m10mr2908501iga.43.1359295760307; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 06:09:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from luna.wi.rr.com (cpe-184-58-138-79.wi.res.rr.com. [184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id eu3sm3737890igc.7.2013.01.27.06.09.19 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 06:09:19 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE Mouse Themes Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:09:10 -0600 Message-ID: <1665932.y6Z9SavSel@luna.wi.rr.com> User-Agent: KMail/4.9.5 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.9.5; i386; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: Carmel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:09:22 -0000 On Sunday 27 January 2013 07:26:59 Carmel wrote: > I have KDE version 4.8.4 (4.8.4) installed on a FreeBSD-8.3 system. I > have tried reading through the KDE documentation; however, I cannot > find the setting on my system to change the mouse theme(s). According > to the KDE documentation, the settings tab that should exist under > "settings" does not. Is there some special package I have to install to > get this ability? I cannot seem to find anything that specifically > relates to this problem in the ports tree. I can do this so easily in > an MS Windows environment, yet now I am just wasting time trying to do > something that should be simple and intuitive. Do you have: System Settings - Input Devices - and there are Keyboard, Mouse and Remote control. -- Mitja ---------- http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 14:28:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B45D05 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:28:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F18233 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:28:52 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=/5QabjwCzFjadlKobpeBOeP8IHx/f6aZn9k1PQH1dYQ=; b=w9dg4U9Aeo0M4Oz/KGbXA8TLoKHI9xJiAv73d2//SlqLW9W6rVkNFyw5QHQlqFNOwxH3qek3fxmrx4lSqGIkAr/56rDbrqEQWVE1lqgOwHKazYbZHbNtVpbA8dh7/wW8; Received: from [122.129.203.50] (port=36462 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TzTE3-001vKe-1c; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:28:51 -0700 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:28:47 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD Message-ID: <20130127212847.55303841@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20130127135806.4d19e997.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20130125133346.f1484ed8.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125150414.f262d162.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125161215.f498f4e4.freebsd@edvax.de> <5102FE7B.4070808@gmail.com> <20130127153838.15b97613@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130127135806.4d19e997.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: Ralf Mardorf , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:28:53 -0000 Hi, On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:58:06 +0100 Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:38:38 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:15:09 +0100 > > "Ralf Mardorf" wrote: > > > > > Good morning, > > > > ood morning? The sun is settling soon! > > The sun of the planet of the ood? > Or the former Sun of one of the microsystems? :-) > both Suns are gone now. Only one will return tomorrow morning. > > > > > if I run 'make deinstall reinstall' for a port, it doesn't ask a > > > single question, at least not for dbus. > > > > > > # ls -l /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon > > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 rocketmouse wheel 377744 Jan 18 22:44 > > > /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon > > > > > > # cd /usr/ports/devel/dbus ; make deinstall reinstall > > > > > > # ls -l /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon > > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 377744 Jan 27 > > > 08:55 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon > > > > > > Is there a command to deinstall and reinstall all ports or an idea > > > for a script to do it? > > > > > Check portupgrade or one of other utilities to handle ports. There > > is one option to force an upgrade even if it would be a downgrade. > > With tools like portmaster, this task can easily be automated. > If you only will have to handle a few ports, using the "bare > ports method" (make) is probably the easiest way (in case > everything else stays definitely consistent). > I would say that - especially in his case - he will get a working system as he does not want to upgrade a single port. > > > > > Do I have to reboot into single user mode and then to run "make > > > installworld" only to reinstall world? > > > > No, you just run it as root. It should work afterword except for > > currently running programs. > > The comment header of /usr/src/Makefile suggests installing the > world in single user mode (steps 5 - 11). > I think that installing it in multi-user mode without other users having things running, will work in 99.9999% of the cases. In his special case, it will work 100% as only the permissions should et changed. > # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your > source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' > # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is > GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel > KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # [steps 3. > & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] # 5. > `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader > prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' > # 8. `make delete-old' > # 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -i, along with > -U or -F). # 10. `reboot' > # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them > anymore) > > This should be the safest method. > > Isn't it the overkill in his situation? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 14:47:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F783FA for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s23.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s23.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3104C2F8 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:47:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP179 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s23.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 06:47:14 -0800 X-EIP: [YYHcSJVU7GrCmrn39MAq5yOnh5IOjyI5] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([76.182.104.150]) by BLU0-SMTP179.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 06:47:13 -0800 Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3YvGym1085z2CG5l for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:47:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:47:11 -0500 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: KDE Mouse Themes In-Reply-To: <1665932.y6Z9SavSel@luna.wi.rr.com> References: <1665932.y6Z9SavSel@luna.wi.rr.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2013 14:47:13.0677 (UTC) FILETIME=[31A7FBD0:01CDFC9D] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:47:16 -0000 On Sun=2C 27 Jan 2013 08:09:10 -0600 ajtiM articulated: > Do you have: >=20 > System Settings - Input Devices - and there are Keyboard=2C Mouse and > Remote control. Yes=2C and there is suppose to be a "themes" setting according to the KDE documentation=3B however=2C there is none. I have checked under every item setting in "system settings" for one. --=20 Carmel =E2=9C=8C carmel_ny@hotmail.com Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 14:48:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5124A0 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:48:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCF230D for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (webmail.dweimer.local [192.168.5.1]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0REmqgL002776 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:48:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:48:52 -0600 From: dweimer To: Shane Ambler Subject: Re: Locking USB Serial Device to Specific Com port Organization: dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: In-Reply-To: <51045B48.40202@ShaneWare.Biz> References: <762f51b7c30dd5c920788336b3eb4fa5@dweimer.net> <51045B48.40202@ShaneWare.Biz> Message-ID: <0fd00d9caad3787f4cd0e443e5931340@dweimer.net> X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.8.1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:48:54 -0000 On 2013-01-26 16:40, Shane Ambler wrote: > On 27/01/2013 08:15, dweimer wrote: > >> I would like to lock down the USB serial port adapter used on the >> UPS to >> /dev/cuaU0, to make sure the UPS is always monitored and I will get >> a >> clean shutdown in event of a power failure. >> >> I believe that this requires setting a hint line of some sort in the >> /boot/loader.conf file, but I am having trouble tracking down what >> this >> should be, or maybe I am on the wrong track. Here is the current >> information from the adpapters, the UPS adapter was connected at >> boot, >> is on /dev/cuaU0, the other one was plugged in after boot, and is on >> /dev/cuaU1. > > start with man devd.conf > > You can add your own devd files in /usr/local/etc/devd/ > Something along the lines of - > > attach 200 { > device-name "cuaU[0-9]+"; > match "vendor" "0x067b"; > match "product" "0x2303"; > action "sleep 2; cd /dev; ln -s ${device-name} upsmonitor"; > }; > > use usbconfig to get info. I am thinking with the similarity of the > two > you may need to rely on bus and hubaddr or devaddr to keep each > device > identified by usb port location. OK, so I was looking in the wrong direction, which might explain why my searching wasn't finding anything. However I might still be out of luck, after doing some checking, and a reboot the only difference I can find is below. dev.uplcom.0.%location: bus=1 hubaddr=1 port=0 devaddr=2 interface=0 dev.uplcom.1.%location: bus=1 hubaddr=3 port=0 devaddr=3 interface=0 The devices have switch at this point, all info from usbconfig, dmesg, looks identical, these two lines from the sysctl -a | grep "uplcom" output is all that changed, the hubaddr=1 and hubaddr=3 have switched, however the man devd.conf has a variable list, to use, and doesn't seem to have an option to match agains that hubaddr variable. Variable Description bus Device name of parent bus. cdev Device node path if one is created by the devfs(5) filesys- tem. cisproduct CIS-product. cisvendor CIS-vendor. class Device class. device Device ID. devclass Device Class (USB) devsubclass Device Sub-class (USB) device-name Name of attached/detached device. endpoints Endpoint count (USB) function Card functions. interface Interface ID (USB) intclass Interface Class (USB) intprotocol Interface Protocol (USB) intsubclass Interface Sub-class (USB) manufacturer Manufacturer ID (pccard). mode Peripheral mode (USB) notify Match the value of the ``notify'' variable. parent Parent device port Hub port number (USB) product Product ID (pccard/USB). release Hardware revision (USB) sernum Serial Number (USB). slot Card slot. subvendor Sub-vendor ID. subdevice Sub-device ID. subsystem Matches a subsystem of a system, see below. system Matches a system type, see below. type Type of notification, see below. vendor Vendor ID. But the action line above does give me an idea though, I should be able to write a script to run at startup to find the line, and create the link to the device. The only one I care about is the UPS monitor, as the other is only occasionally used, and I can easily check which com port its on before connecting to it. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 14:55:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E74A8C8 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:55:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm11-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm11-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A76C436D for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.53] by nm11.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 14:55:37 -0000 Received: from [217.146.189.66] by tm6.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 14:55:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp146.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 14:55:37 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359298537; bh=FmcZFcYYsMrTp3yZrSgZeYSD6K1XxGiqZP/byEH9Y7U=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=4HQDm9UGhttj8yEwz6egIYeQXcjoW6qT8HifMGaK4zYMV2F8WfNHp6c1GR/JtLbY+80Lzov4eibx1WbF6FPKJP19jzb8DsG2bDz3eAYLDBsdmpioIYGz57Eilxr/fbvDDC9EnnfiViDll6GzgqFIJ/SbF4105iQakrVFUnwpD7E= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 443006.13421.bm@smtp146.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: DquhZu8VM1m8eri9IN39upt_d4ef3xjfEXLvrvoK7sDdhT1 uQEi5vLr1ZeZJKrfp5kdJk_THIJANYs2BO2AdK_EPKd.lWCZjU.3XdyMUWJw lUa8XkBxbDrpa_9zbtcY94qZtS_4U4Tmzw.t1wZKKgjDalL9uhZg5lEJ1ceU lQ.a0vdx9RcZGfum7Gab6wYBWrc0CaLApXo1.QDqne4dmkbluajfEiiebgvd esC3_9mSd4rqCKBsGSpivkivbSjuAWkTz5YRyJ.8HCFULxK4Z8FGt6oRmokZ moUAeYfHQGV3WetVg7nwUNmMpzAZLwylI8uzNPJgPpj95ecQTZCXaEHNn2UV 2l2OJ956aJZIhi4JDWheIqabzoqdJ4HVm_Z1nBOGjOfGwD04WlI3rw1tJXcn AdFRO3BASKsIIUKDuHXX_C3raf610aQhE5He3MFjYnA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@92.231.6.61 with login) by smtp146.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2013 06:55:37 -0800 PST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD References: <20130125133346.f1484ed8.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125150414.f262d162.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125161215.f498f4e4.freebsd@edvax.de> <5102FE7B.4070808@gmail.com> <20130127153838.15b97613@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130127135806.4d19e997.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130127212847.55303841@X220.ovitrap.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:55:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20130127212847.55303841@X220.ovitrap.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:55:47 -0000 On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:28:47 +0100, Erich Dollansky wrote: > I think that installing it in multi-user mode without other users having > things running, will work in 99.9999% of the cases. In his special > case, it will work 100% as only the permissions should et changed. I think so, but I asked, because world might be a more serious issue, than Opera and Jack are. Btw. I even run a complete port upgarde during a X session. I didn't launch apps or did hard work, but kept Opera open. Reading mails become impossible, but writing mails and using the browser was possible all the time. Today I take a rest ;). Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 14:57:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0583D3C; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrkvrg@acm.org) Received: from smtp1.bway.net (smtp1.bway.net [216.220.96.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9A53DC; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:57:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gecko3.bs.net (host-216-220-115-232.dsl.bway.net [216.220.115.232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m1316v@bway.net) by smtp1.bway.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 09A9C9588E; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:51:16 -0500 (EST) From: MFV To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cronjob Cvsup -> What? Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:51:12 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-RELEASE; KDE/4.8.4; i386; ; ) References: <20130127001805.97F0119B@hub.freebsd.org> <5104E6B7.9070302@aboutsupport.com> <5105057F.3090108@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <5105057F.3090108@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201301270951.13292.mrkvrg@acm.org> Cc: Matthew Seaman , "Zyumbilev, Peter" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: mrkvrg@acm.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:57:24 -0000 Hello Matthew, Thanks for an outstanding piece of documentation. It resolves a number of concerns I had and convinced me to move from portsnap where I discovered an apparent bug that gave me security concerns. More specifically I manually edited /usr/ports/UPDATING and portsnap did not recognise the change and download a proper copy. The only downside with svn seems to be the 728 MB footprint. Cheers ... Mark On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 05:46:23 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 27/01/2013 08:35, Zyumbilev, Peter wrote: > > Last 10 years I am using cvsup. Any good guide for the transition to > > subversion ? > > Most of the guides around freebsd.org are aimed at developers who will > be using SVN read-write. For simple read-only use (ie. not checking > anything into the repository) the following should suffice: > > 0) Install svn > > It isn't part of the base system, and it has too many external > dependencies with different licensing terms for it to be bought > in easily. There's been some discussion about this, but it hasn't > happened yet. If it did, the imported version would be fairly > minimal, and anyone wanting to use it for serious development > would probably just grab the ports version anyhow. > > If all you want to do is pull down a copy of the sources then you > can turn off most of the options to reduce the fairly large > dependency tree to something more manageable: > > BDB=off: Berkeley Database > BOOK=off: Install the Subversion Book > ENHANCED_KEYWORD=on: Enhanced svn:keyword support > FREEBSD_TEMPLATE=on: FreeBSD Project log template > GNOME_KEYRING=off: Build with GNOME Keyring auth support > KDE_KWALLET=off: Build with KDE KWallet auth support > MAINTAINER_DEBUG=off: Build debug version > MOD_DAV_SVN=off: mod_dav_svn module for Apache 2.X > MOD_DONTDOTHAT=off: mod_dontdothat for Apache 2.X > NEON=off: WebDAV/Delta-V repo access module (neon) > P4_STYLE_MARKERS=off: Perforce-style conflict markers > SASL=off: SASL support > SERF=on: WebDAV/Delta-V repo access module (serf) > STATIC=off: Build static version (no shared libs) > SVNAUTHZ_VALIDATE=off: install svnauthz-validate > SVNMUCC=off: Install Multiple URL Command Client > SVNSERVE_WRAPPER=off: Enable svnserve wrapper > TEST=off: Run subversion test suite > > There is the new devel/subversion-static port which does all that, > and compiles subversion with static linkage so it has *no* runtime > dependencies on anything else. The disadvantage here is that if > there is, say, a security hole discovered in the one of the > libraries subversion links against, you won't secure the > statically linked copy of subversion simply by updating to a fixed > version of the shlib. subversion-static is really only intended > for providing a one-off binary package that people can download > and install in order to bootstrap a more standard FreeBSD > environment. > > 1) Choose a SVN mirror close to you. Currently there are two choices: > > svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org -- Western USA > svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org -- Eastern USA > > Use whichever one gives you best performance. Certainly from > Europe at the moment us-east seems to be the best choice. > > The number of SVN mirrors and their global coverage should increase > over time, but it will never need as many servers as the old cvsup > network. > > The canonical list of SVN mirrors is here: > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/svn-mirrors.html > > 2) Choose a protocol for access the SVN servers. Your choices in > order of preference are > > svn:// > https:// > http:// > > Use svn:// for best performance. If you're concerned about MITM > attacks injecting trojans into the FreeBSD sources, then use > https and be sure to verify the certificate hashes on first > connection. Otherwise, if you're stuck behind a restrictive > firewall, use http:// > > 3) Choose which branch you want to mirror. It's relatively easy to > switch between branches and doesn't involve downloading the entire > contents of /usr/src all over again if you change your mind. > However right now, the viable choices are > > head --- Current, the bleeding edge, really only suitable > for development purposes > > stable/9 --- 9-STABLE Still a rapidly changing development > branch, but not quite so close to the edge, and > with less bleeding involved. > > stable/8 --- 8-STABLE Ditto. > > releng/9.1 --- 9.1-RELEASE This tracks any security patches to > version 9.1. However, in this case you would be > better advised to use freebsd-update(8) to maintain > your /usr/src directory tree instead. > > Similarly releng/9.0 releng/8.3 releng/7.4 for other supported > release versions. > > Don't be fooled into pulling down release/9.1.0 or the like -- > this is not a *branch* but a *snapshot*. If you think you want > release/9.1.0 then you really want releng/9.1 instead. > > 4) Make sure /usr/src is empty. Pre-existing files can cause you > grief at some unexpected later date even if they don't cause the > initial checkout to fail. > > 5) Put it all together. Run a command like so to check out the > content of /usr/src for your chosen branch from your chosen SVN > mirror using your chosen protocol: > > svn co {proto}://{svn-mirror}/base/{branch} /usr/src > > So, what I would do to checkout 9.1-STABLE from the us-east mirror > using svn as the protocol is: > > svn co svn://svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org/base/stable/9 /usr/src > > Then wait for that to complete, as it's going to download a few > hundred MB of code. > > Now, you generally only need to do that step one time. For regular > updates to the sources, just run: > > cd /usr/src > svn up > > This will re-use all the settings you chose above. If you want to > change any of the settings then use 'svn switch' from the top to the > checked-out tree (ie. cd /usr/src) -- this will avoid downloading the > whole repo all over again... > > svn help switch -- read for clues > > svn switch ^stable/8 -- change to the 8.4-STABLE sources > > svn switch --relocate svn:// http:// -- use HTTP instead > > svn switch --relocate svn://svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org \ > svn://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org -- switch to a different > mirror > > To see what setting are currently in force: > > svn info > > Working out how to apply these instructions to /usr/ports or /usr/doc is > left as an exercise. > > Cheers, > > Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 15:02:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59F6E93 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:02:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout07.plus.net (avasout07.plus.net [84.93.230.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B3B639 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout07 with smtp id t32w1k003516WCc0132xeX; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:02:57 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H5sFNZki c=1 sm=1 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=Fu_n5yJQHbEA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=b_9WPM85lSEA:10 a=OkpbbZyqhpDxci3iECsA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1TzTl1-0001LY-Fp; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:02:56 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:02:54 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.8.4; amd64; ; ) References: <1665932.y6Z9SavSel@luna.wi.rr.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201301271502.55017.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Subject: Re: KDE Mouse Themes Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) Cc: Carmel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:02:59 -0000 On Sunday 27 Jan 2013 14:47:11 Carmel wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:09:10 -0600 > > ajtiM articulated: > > Do you have: > > > > System Settings - Input Devices - and there are Keyboard, Mouse and > > Remote control. > > Yes, and there is suppose to be a "themes" setting according to the KDE > documentation; however, there is none. I have checked under every item > setting in "system settings" for one. Try System Settings - Workspace Appearance - Cursor Theme -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 15:06:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DBAFFE for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:06:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ateve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (relay01a.mail.uk1.eechost.net [217.69.40.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32A466A for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:06:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TzTp2-0003N1-IV; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:07:04 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1TzTod-00017P-Cj; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:06:39 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:06:22 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cronjob Cvsup -> What? Message-Id: <20130127150622.7da77ec247d201b1b027d1fe@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <201301270951.13292.mrkvrg@acm.org> References: <20130127001805.97F0119B@hub.freebsd.org> <5104E6B7.9070302@aboutsupport.com> <5105057F.3090108@FreeBSD.org> <201301270951.13292.mrkvrg@acm.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 15567@permanet.ie (plain) Cc: mrkvrg@acm.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:06:49 -0000 On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:51:12 -0500 MFV wrote: > The only downside with svn seems to be the 728 MB footprint. With hard disc space running at around 10c per gigabyte it's a minor issue. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 15:12:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4453C1A9 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:12:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C615769B for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:12:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 27 Jan 2013 10:12:32 -0500 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BXD84108; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:12:31 -0500 Received: from 209-6-84-183.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.84.183]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 27 Jan 2013 10:12:31 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20741.17368.280648.325467@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:12:24 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cronjob Cvsup -> What? In-Reply-To: <20130127150622.7da77ec247d201b1b027d1fe@sohara.org> References: <20130127001805.97F0119B@hub.freebsd.org> <5104E6B7.9070302@aboutsupport.com> <5105057F.3090108@FreeBSD.org> <201301270951.13292.mrkvrg@acm.org> <20130127150622.7da77ec247d201b1b027d1fe@sohara.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 22) "Instant Classic" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:12:40 -0000 Steve O'Hara-Smith writes: > > The only downside with svn seems to be the 728 MB footprint. > > With hard disc space running at around 10c per gigabyte it's a > minor issue. Doesn't that depend on whose money it is? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 15:22:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9525F3C8; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:22:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B676F0; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:22:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0RFMha0007510; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:22:43 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r0RFMhgW007507; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:22:43 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:22:43 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: Cronjob Cvsup -> What? In-Reply-To: <5105057F.3090108@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <20130127001805.97F0119B@hub.freebsd.org> <44d2wrw8fs.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <5104E6B7.9070302@aboutsupport.com> <5105057F.3090108@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:22:44 -0700 (MST) Cc: "Zyumbilev, Peter" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:22:46 -0000 On Sun, 27 Jan 2013, Matthew Seaman wrote: > 2) Choose a protocol for access the SVN servers. Your choices in > order of preference are > > svn:// > https:// > http:// > > Use svn:// for best performance. If you're concerned about MITM > attacks injecting trojans into the FreeBSD sources, then use > https and be sure to verify the certificate hashes on first > connection. Otherwise, if you're stuck behind a restrictive > firewall, use http:// HTTPS is preferred. The SVN mirrors section of the Handbook will soon reflect that. Performance should not be very different from svn://. 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Ram=E9=0Ahttp://leonardorame.blogspot.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 15:28:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF1D515 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:28:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f47.google.com (mail-wg0-f47.google.com [74.125.82.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D40D721 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:28:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f47.google.com with SMTP id dr13so1234385wgb.14 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:28:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TSl56DV6BNP1724VERMaXETg8JL0EZRVWN/8AERLX2w=; b=vzeJIEopugCQNOB8iTkPbXFcNbAR6X4SbnmCjNiZugk9+bMUu6KljuqsTWnAyIV7P6 fnmQBv7RxfkCV5ucBNNmDE/9c1RfeUVSGRv+CpF1B/2SxzJo6ivqafnG9HiZim0sCEKR Tc+MXy+RuDeDJgDk8DAbFd0TVNXL0KdknjVjQTadpZmyg3NkD+w9SlYdQtyjfI7Cg1vy +sEz4QbTVqQAkXcBLiXkuNyGo0w/0OHUl3vfgUKjoU13lSk4L343kagZmsAh7hVF/23K Yv6UQ6jPvOVM18YYYAM2LzhkGOFkI6TCrfYB8uWRmCE5S2zNZQUfiXBHQ4XGqg5yO/SA B4oA== X-Received: by 10.194.119.5 with SMTP id kq5mr16812476wjb.48.1359300518013; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:28:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id be1sm8418115wib.10.2013.01.27.07.28.36 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:28:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:28:34 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cronjob Cvsup -> What? Message-ID: <20130127152834.1d7b8201@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <201301270951.13292.mrkvrg@acm.org> References: <20130127001805.97F0119B@hub.freebsd.org> <5104E6B7.9070302@aboutsupport.com> <5105057F.3090108@FreeBSD.org> <201301270951.13292.mrkvrg@acm.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:28:39 -0000 On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:51:12 -0500 MFV wrote: > Hello Matthew, > > Thanks for an outstanding piece of documentation. It resolves a > number of concerns I had and convinced me to move from portsnap where > I discovered an apparent bug that gave me security concerns. More > specifically I manually edited /usr/ports/UPDATING and portsnap did > not recognise the change and download a proper copy. I don't see why that's a problem. The function of "portsnap update" is to update files in the tree that have been updated, deleted or added in the repository. Resynchronising the tree and it's metadata with the snapshot is what "portsnap extract" is for. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 15:31:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F1D813 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:31:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF84676F for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0RFTw0N007594; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:29:58 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r0RFTwDV007591; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:29:58 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:29:58 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: dweimer Subject: Re: Locking USB Serial Device to Specific Com port In-Reply-To: <0fd00d9caad3787f4cd0e443e5931340@dweimer.net> Message-ID: References: <762f51b7c30dd5c920788336b3eb4fa5@dweimer.net> <51045B48.40202@ShaneWare.Biz> <0fd00d9caad3787f4cd0e443e5931340@dweimer.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:29:58 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Shane Ambler X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:31:16 -0000 On Sun, 27 Jan 2013, dweimer wrote: > On 2013-01-26 16:40, Shane Ambler wrote: >> On 27/01/2013 08:15, dweimer wrote: >> >>> I would like to lock down the USB serial port adapter used on the UPS to >>> /dev/cuaU0, to make sure the UPS is always monitored and I will get a >>> clean shutdown in event of a power failure. >>> >>> I believe that this requires setting a hint line of some sort in the >>> /boot/loader.conf file, but I am having trouble tracking down what this >>> should be, or maybe I am on the wrong track. Here is the current >>> information from the adpapters, the UPS adapter was connected at boot, >>> is on /dev/cuaU0, the other one was plugged in after boot, and is on >>> /dev/cuaU1. >> >> start with man devd.conf >> >> You can add your own devd files in /usr/local/etc/devd/ >> Something along the lines of - >> >> attach 200 { >> device-name "cuaU[0-9]+"; >> match "vendor" "0x067b"; >> match "product" "0x2303"; >> action "sleep 2; cd /dev; ln -s ${device-name} upsmonitor"; >> }; >> >> use usbconfig to get info. I am thinking with the similarity of the two >> you may need to rely on bus and hubaddr or devaddr to keep each device >> identified by usb port location. > > OK, so I was looking in the wrong direction, which might explain why my > searching wasn't finding anything. > > However I might still be out of luck, after doing some checking, and a reboot > the only difference I can find is below. > > dev.uplcom.0.%location: bus=1 hubaddr=1 port=0 devaddr=2 interface=0 > dev.uplcom.1.%location: bus=1 hubaddr=3 port=0 devaddr=3 interface=0 usbconfig may be able to get the device serial number, although they may not be unique. Jamming useful scripts inside an action can be complicated. It may be easier to just trigger an external script. 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Ram=E9 =0A> To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" =0A> Cc: =0A> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 12:28 PM=0A> Subject: /us= r/bin/ld: cannot find -liconv=0A> =0A> Hi, I'm trying to compile FreePascal= from sources, but it keeps complaining =0A> about cannot find -liconv:=0A>= =0A> When I do "gmake all" on fpc src directory, I get this:=0A> =0A> Outp= ut of ldconfig -r|grep iconv:=0A> =0A> 19:-lkiconv.4 =3D> /lib/libkiconv.so= .4=0A> 112:-liconv.3 =3D> /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3=0A> 433:-lbiconv.2 = =3D> /usr/local/lib/libbiconv.so.2=0A> 434:-lticonv.6 =3D> /usr/local/lib/l= ibticonv.so.6=0A> =0A> =0A> Output of gmake all:=0A> =0A> ...=0A> /usr/bin/= ld: cannot find -liconv=0A> fpdoc.pp(404,1) Error: Error while linking=0A> = fpdoc.pp(404,1) Fatal: There were 1 errors compiling module, stopping=0A> F= atal: Compilation aborted=0A> gmake[3]: *** [fpdoc] Error 1=0A> gmake[3]: L= eaving directory `/usr/home/martin/fpc/utils/fpdoc'=0A> gmake[2]: *** [fpdo= c_all] Error 2=0A> gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/home/martin/fpc/utils'= =0A> gmake[1]: *** [utils_all] Error 2=0A> gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/us= r/home/martin/fpc'=0A> gmake: *** [build-stamp.x86_64-freebsd] Error 2=0A> = =0A> =0A> This is a FreeBsd 9.1 RELEASE x86-64 machine.=0A> =0A> What I'm d= oing wrong?.=0A> =A0=0A=0A=0AThe solution was doing:=0A=0Agmake all OPT=3D"= -Fl/usr/local/lib"=0A=0A=0A=A0=0ALeonardo M. Ram=E9=0Ahttp://leonardorame.b= logspot.com=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 16:01:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6994EF45 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:01:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35479879 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:01:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (webmail.dweimer.local [192.168.5.1]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0RG1Pdk001703 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:01:26 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:01:25 -0600 From: dweimer To: Subject: Re: Locking USB Serial Device to Specific Com port Organization: dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: In-Reply-To: <0fd00d9caad3787f4cd0e443e5931340@dweimer.net> References: <762f51b7c30dd5c920788336b3eb4fa5@dweimer.net> <51045B48.40202@ShaneWare.Biz> <0fd00d9caad3787f4cd0e443e5931340@dweimer.net> Message-ID: <97fefb7c7b83a63d8b1e9825f2734699@dweimer.net> X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:01:27 -0000 On 2013-01-27 08:48, dweimer wrote: > On 2013-01-26 16:40, Shane Ambler wrote: >> On 27/01/2013 08:15, dweimer wrote: >> >>> I would like to lock down the USB serial port adapter used on the >>> UPS to >>> /dev/cuaU0, to make sure the UPS is always monitored and I will get >>> a >>> clean shutdown in event of a power failure. >>> >>> I believe that this requires setting a hint line of some sort in >>> the >>> /boot/loader.conf file, but I am having trouble tracking down what >>> this >>> should be, or maybe I am on the wrong track. Here is the current >>> information from the adpapters, the UPS adapter was connected at >>> boot, >>> is on /dev/cuaU0, the other one was plugged in after boot, and is >>> on >>> /dev/cuaU1. >> >> start with man devd.conf >> >> You can add your own devd files in /usr/local/etc/devd/ >> Something along the lines of - >> >> attach 200 { >> device-name "cuaU[0-9]+"; >> match "vendor" "0x067b"; >> match "product" "0x2303"; >> action "sleep 2; cd /dev; ln -s ${device-name} upsmonitor"; >> }; >> >> use usbconfig to get info. I am thinking with the similarity of the >> two >> you may need to rely on bus and hubaddr or devaddr to keep each >> device >> identified by usb port location. > > OK, so I was looking in the wrong direction, which might explain why > my searching wasn't finding anything. > > However I might still be out of luck, after doing some checking, and > a reboot the only difference I can find is below. > > dev.uplcom.0.%location: bus=1 hubaddr=1 port=0 devaddr=2 interface=0 > dev.uplcom.1.%location: bus=1 hubaddr=3 port=0 devaddr=3 interface=0 > > The devices have switch at this point, all info from usbconfig, > dmesg, looks identical, these two lines from the sysctl -a | grep > "uplcom" output is all that changed, the hubaddr=1 and hubaddr=3 have > switched, however the man devd.conf has a variable list, to use, and > doesn't seem to have an option to match agains that hubaddr variable. > > Variable Description > bus Device name of parent bus. > cdev Device node path if one is created by the devfs(5) > filesys- > tem. > cisproduct CIS-product. > cisvendor CIS-vendor. > class Device class. > device Device ID. > devclass Device Class (USB) > devsubclass Device Sub-class (USB) > device-name Name of attached/detached device. > endpoints Endpoint count (USB) > function Card functions. > interface Interface ID (USB) > intclass Interface Class (USB) > intprotocol Interface Protocol (USB) > intsubclass Interface Sub-class (USB) > manufacturer Manufacturer ID (pccard). > mode Peripheral mode (USB) > notify Match the value of the ``notify'' variable. > parent Parent device > port Hub port number (USB) > product Product ID (pccard/USB). > release Hardware revision (USB) > sernum Serial Number (USB). > slot Card slot. > subvendor Sub-vendor ID. > subdevice Sub-device ID. > subsystem Matches a subsystem of a system, see below. > system Matches a system type, see below. > type Type of notification, see below. > vendor Vendor ID. > > > But the action line above does give me an idea though, I should be > able to write a script to run at startup to find the line, and create > the link to the device. The only one I care about is the UPS > monitor, > as the other is only occasionally used, and I can easily check which > com port its on before connecting to it. This probably wouldn't work for anyone else, but here is my solution in case it does help someone else. Created a new script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/nutusblink #!/bin/sh # PROVIDE: NUTUSBLINK # REQUIRE: NETWORKING # BEFORE: nut # KEYWORD: shutdown . /etc/rc.subr name="nutusblink" start_cmd="nutusblink_start" stop_cmd="nutusblink_stop" rcvar="nutusblink_enable" find_comport() { grepstring='uplcom.*hubaddr='${nutusblink_hubaddr} comnum=`sysctl -a | grep ${grepstring} | awk '{print $1}' | awk -F . '{print $3}'` } nutusblink_start() { find_comport echo "" echo "...Creating USB Serial Adapter Comport Link for NUT UPS Monitoring..." ln -s /dev/cuaU${comnum} /dev/${nutusblink_link} echo " /dev/${nutusblink_link} Linked to /dev/cuaU${comnum}" echo "" } nutusblink_stop() { find_comport echo "" echo "...Removing USB Serial Adapter Comport Link for NUT UPS Monitoring..." rm /dev/${nutusblink_link} echo " /dev/${nutusblink_link} No longer linked to /dev/cuaU${comnum}" echo "" } load_rc_config $name : ${nutusblink_enable="NO"} : ${nutusblink_hubaddr=""} : ${nutusblink_link=""} run_rc_command "$1" Added these lines to /etc/rc.conf # Create NUT USB Link nutusblink_enable="YES" nutusblink_hubaddr="3" nutusblink_link="nutusblink" End Result, I now have a link /dev/nutusblink pointed at /dev/cuaU#, where # is the correct port number. I have tested on a couple of reboots, and configured NUT to use the link instead of the actual com port. Using the BEFORE: nut in the script ensures that it gets ran before the NUT process starts at boot. Downside is that if I do unplug the USB serial port adapter, I have to make sure you put it in the same port, and if its unplugged at boot, I will need to run the script manually after plugging it in. I also didn't bother with making sure it found a com port number before creating the link, so if its not there, it will error, rather than display a warning message, and not try to create a link. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 16:01:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D012FDB for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:01:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4D4881 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:01:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:01:46 -0800 Message-ID: <51054F6A.1080701@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:01:46 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: who am i logged in as Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2013 16:01:46.0616 (UTC) FILETIME=[9BBC4F80:01CDFCA7] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:01:46 -0000 I know there is a command that will give me the name of the account I am logged in on. But I can not recall the name of this command. What is the name of this command? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 16:03:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5688153 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm12-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm12-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 14DF08A2 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:03:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.82.105.246] by nm12.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 16:03:39 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.83] by tm18.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 16:03:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp120.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 16:03:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359302619; bh=ANWMTAFfYYk15+EtIO8aIWfwnRZu7Ss796rurhxxDJg=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=GjJKu54pgtUVSkWEWGkOIEc3ILCsFoAaAcHW1yX+S8N+EkcJNxiz8XsbyhtClZnqoSiD6giw/kO657jf5NT4yLAZ0PTSvRwosv8aWyTwiKfNqWyhN1Padt38P2NONkTxiTfwgtszG/Jz+FGAMF1xatOZp6/ZUp1MS8hKh0LfPWU= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 443684.52184.bm@smtp120.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: NvlOnIQVM1nVcCdqXmEG0iFpgvrtxb_jwR5GzfiI3FozTIG u.UwWL6Lb8FQIC2jeVa9lQ9tBGOferA_28QeY6JhoX.1U5xCMIC_oIR6npuF NerPUC_JCw1E.HusYrXpTgXaJP7XbeUG2Cxbnzp9Jmd1r98pH84xiaQWyFsq GwR3WZWLa25Tnypo0vpPeCDlqo9Ih17M5Hq0loAX8lHlROBoNkcV09_Ip.5H ykHrQEGEgL30LFQNgWBrLwVxhO_cuhON9Y9iaL.X7CPFiT4Tm6TMkTT7DqG3 Z6Vsv9jsi_ka.V0cf6yzYjnCyMPW92b7wBJjgGJDb3xfY32vi875tx3KQh2K P6YzhnHQSlJZR5ECGZtmr3.PDOtGjoTws7pya.GW_XJdI3UxXoU5GadAD8eg SK3vmOQ3rUX6WiOyZs8IfjeAl7tOZUMdCb_BmLDsa0AqCvA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@92.231.6.61 with login) by smtp120.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2013 16:03:39 +0000 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "FreeBSD questions" , Fbsd8 Subject: Re: who am i logged in as References: <51054F6A.1080701@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:03:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <51054F6A.1080701@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:03:46 -0000 On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:01:46 +0100, Fbsd8 wrote: > I know there is a command that will give me the name > of the account I am logged in on. > > But I can not recall the name of this command. > > What is the name of this command? As user run $ id uid=1000(rocketmouse) gid=1000(rocketmouse) groups=1000(rocketmouse),0(wheel) $ groups rocketmouse wheel $ whoami rocketmouse From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 16:05:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD857231 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@chthonixia.net) Received: from www5.pairlite.com (www5.pairlite.com [64.130.10.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F958C4 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:05:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from whisperer.chthonixia.net (unknown [184.152.30.105]) by www5.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3A4192E2E0 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:05:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:06:21 -0500 From: Joe Altman To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: who am i logged in as Message-ID: <20130127160621.GA49663@whisperer.chthonixia.net> References: <51054F6A.1080701@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <51054F6A.1080701@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:05:47 -0000 On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 11:01:46AM -0500, Fbsd8 wrote: > > I know there is a command that will give me the name > of the account I am logged in on. > > But I can not recall the name of this command. > > What is the name of this command? whoami From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 16:14:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E73729 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:14:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731E1941 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:14:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (webmail.dweimer.local [192.168.5.1]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0RGEvFZ002145 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:14:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:14:57 -0600 From: dweimer To: Warren Block Subject: Re: Locking USB Serial Device to Specific Com port Organization: dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: In-Reply-To: References: <762f51b7c30dd5c920788336b3eb4fa5@dweimer.net> <51045B48.40202@ShaneWare.Biz> <0fd00d9caad3787f4cd0e443e5931340@dweimer.net> Message-ID: <92bd9c547b6d1b36daa9da4030ad2172@dweimer.net> X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.8.1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Shane Ambler X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:14:59 -0000 On 2013-01-27 09:29, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jan 2013, dweimer wrote: > >> On 2013-01-26 16:40, Shane Ambler wrote: >>> On 27/01/2013 08:15, dweimer wrote: >>> >>>> I would like to lock down the USB serial port adapter used on the >>>> UPS to >>>> /dev/cuaU0, to make sure the UPS is always monitored and I will >>>> get a >>>> clean shutdown in event of a power failure. >>>> I believe that this requires setting a hint line of some sort in >>>> the >>>> /boot/loader.conf file, but I am having trouble tracking down what >>>> this >>>> should be, or maybe I am on the wrong track. Here is the current >>>> information from the adpapters, the UPS adapter was connected at >>>> boot, >>>> is on /dev/cuaU0, the other one was plugged in after boot, and is >>>> on >>>> /dev/cuaU1. >>> start with man devd.conf >>> You can add your own devd files in /usr/local/etc/devd/ >>> Something along the lines of - >>> attach 200 { >>> device-name "cuaU[0-9]+"; >>> match "vendor" "0x067b"; >>> match "product" "0x2303"; >>> action "sleep 2; cd /dev; ln -s ${device-name} upsmonitor"; >>> }; >>> use usbconfig to get info. I am thinking with the similarity of the >>> two >>> you may need to rely on bus and hubaddr or devaddr to keep each >>> device >>> identified by usb port location. >> >> OK, so I was looking in the wrong direction, which might explain why >> my searching wasn't finding anything. >> >> However I might still be out of luck, after doing some checking, and >> a reboot the only difference I can find is below. >> >> dev.uplcom.0.%location: bus=1 hubaddr=1 port=0 devaddr=2 interface=0 >> dev.uplcom.1.%location: bus=1 hubaddr=3 port=0 devaddr=3 interface=0 > > usbconfig may be able to get the device serial number, although they > may not be unique. Jamming useful scripts inside an action can be > complicated. It may be easier to just trigger an external script. That's just it, can't get usbconfig to give me anything different between the two, they don't appear to have a serial number set on them. # usbconfig -d ugen0.2 dump_device_desc ugen0.2: at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON bLength = 0x0012 bDescriptorType = 0x0001 bcdUSB = 0x0110 bDeviceClass = 0x0000 bDeviceSubClass = 0x0000 bDeviceProtocol = 0x0000 bMaxPacketSize0 = 0x0040 idVendor = 0x067b idProduct = 0x2303 bcdDevice = 0x0300 iManufacturer = 0x0001 iProduct = 0x0002 iSerialNumber = 0x0000 bNumConfigurations = 0x0001 # usbconfig -d ugen0.3 dump_device_desc ugen0.3: at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON bLength = 0x0012 bDescriptorType = 0x0001 bcdUSB = 0x0110 bDeviceClass = 0x0000 bDeviceSubClass = 0x0000 bDeviceProtocol = 0x0000 bMaxPacketSize0 = 0x0040 idVendor = 0x067b idProduct = 0x2303 bcdDevice = 0x0300 iManufacturer = 0x0001 iProduct = 0x0002 iSerialNumber = 0x0000 bNumConfigurations = 0x0001 -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 16:18:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5DF902 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:18:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34CE7972 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:18:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r0RG2sn7004159; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:02:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:02:54 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: who am i logged in as In-Reply-To: <51054F6A.1080701@a1poweruser.com> Message-ID: References: <51054F6A.1080701@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:18:57 -0000 On Sun, 27 Jan 2013, Fbsd8 wrote: > I know there is a command that will give me the name > of the account I am logged in on. > > But I can not recall the name of this command. > > What is the name of this command? whoami > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 16:26:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D500FC31 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:26:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.rajamani@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x229.google.com (la-in-x0229.1e100.net [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A929BA for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:26:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id fo12so419023lab.0 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:26:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=OCuq/4vd2uxAiN5TrUgd7BcxJ/K8XeKWdr6IM+O6i6k=; b=XrfWHTsO6sU/fXSgyYKtS/qOrUQLnwpTEzZA3qYSkvJbPmGwsUCfD5lNF16Sz1R0Ps RvLjGLmzWIFckyIPKcpjvTDeqf8Cs5teUyeL0zaA0yIxUopcB17xiEwhtw3W5uAGcQ8C ayTintfo7JAfP2m13lZjQK+xGO5splOPIJG644TfF7riRD382u+yNfXc1t0TUvZcYCz7 /3FiMhW4Tax+ob1/i3C1QgF6p7cQu2Fq2NeBHjrAxLIDH5KcQDCX57UrqnfkYyt4sCZo 3f2kDjDB8atV18pRM0ZJ4HsuH6wh06U0zRShL5aKjGdeakL8qLdvUTI7RndwldC8iEnq fruw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.122.133 with SMTP id ls5mr10799868lab.9.1359303964342; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:26:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.76.113 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:26:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.76.113 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:26:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <51054F6A.1080701@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:26:04 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: who am i logged in as From: Rajarajan Rajamani To: Chris Hill Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: Fbsd8 , FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:26:05 -0000 On Jan 27, 2013 11:19 AM, "Chris Hill" wrote: > > On Sun, 27 Jan 2013, Fbsd8 wrote: > >> I know there is a command that will give me the name >> of the account I am logged in on. >> >> But I can not recall the name of this command. >> >> What is the name of this command? > > > whoami > > >> >> Thanks >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > -- > Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > ** [ Busy Expunging ] > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" id From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 16:35:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7621B6 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpet@SDF.ORG) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81F2A17 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:35:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wm.sdf.org (nobody@mx.freeshell.org [192.94.73.19]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0RGVn3V007518; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:31:49 GMT Received: from 187.150.18.255 (SquirrelMail authenticated user cpet) by wm.sdf.org with HTTP; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:31:49 -0000 Message-ID: <290f5ae2dcb93a7a4a97afa7acf4fbcd.squirrel@wm.sdf.org> In-Reply-To: <51054F6A.1080701@a1poweruser.com> References: <51054F6A.1080701@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:31:49 -0000 Subject: Re: who am i logged in as From: cpet@SDF.ORG To: "Fbsd8" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:35:09 -0000 > I know there is a command that will give me the name > of the account I am logged in on. > > But I can not recall the name of this command. > > What is the name of this command? > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > name@hactar:/home/name % who name pts/0 Jan 27 16:31 (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) name@hactar:/home/name % whoami name name@hactar:/home/name % also id man who man whoami man id From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 17:03:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0885FC82 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:03:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rasel_ahmed079@yahoo.com) Received: from nm22-vm2.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com (nm22-vm2.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com [106.10.151.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2759CB5F for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:03:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [106.10.166.125] by nm22.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 17:03:02 -0000 Received: from [106.10.166.106] by tm14.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 17:02:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp108-mob.biz.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 17:02:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1359306179; bh=PD5FhH+HsV0tnzWce3VZaqtA0MD91WTavPZNfkQpB9A=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=CWmzR9CNclVtikJJnZ/5Pqb3ZiolYcz0CGDKRc7vLHsR3bRohbJ6W3nKzFD0FTEx263liqK+jmA3k3kO63kfSQkvbOitxMQJ1DShR9czN68rLT6+tvtHuS+cw1K+Cl/Puj1bNCDatmPM2tP9zRV6DeTdghvbXY0bRd4RusKktFE= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 578742.56308.bm@smtp108-mob.biz.mail.sg3.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: _QGzDTAVM1kTh_CSdFcj6dT1kXDVucATxaIpAxgv9uUyd1L 7MQ594.4Tcq9LTIpg2EabKiDxlrW2Qc._JQiuIg.j9KRMUDZsxtrO6jTsbXE ieVYVmwO63.tJ30K37e2BCr4IMuq2twSDwbfu4zYyVykPM0aIodwbNTV6t94 ApCo5_l2Ocr1s7Qa4.3ZZZpQeC_XsUmAWmCFnDgo6gOkNWclZtZ9kvhzN2ii L_dHUy.yrBP8TCORfgHsD72IC4j7wL8gTa_r8vlGOAwT5ynvyW0NG2N9xoGV YamziuTBromqEropRhUWRXLraki9X2Hyy0Juubztf8DLJtjEBADj7.sdYLfy CRR.ioQT35__slsPo56l5CmPiWCZkMCywJRgCtrx3nFkJjngS3oZJxBNTroF qAxlgavU4DXfY9YmgcY.P.Nf4KzB1bw5.0lMDOXUk3t0QyaMIMlU- X-Yahoo-SMTP: O_.9FFOswBBT8fmhqv18LXxY..XIz8F3PLxs Received: from [10.53.221.92] (rasel_ahmed079@119.30.39.2 with xymcookie) by smtp108-mob.biz.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2013 17:02:59 +0000 UTC Subject: http://localhost/phpmyadmin From: Rasel Ahmed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <67427CAB-BC28-47E7-8583-89A30BD03CF4@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:02:48 +0600 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:03:11 -0000 Please help me what the applied host in website ? Sent from my iPhone From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 20:24:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF610565 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x229.google.com (ie-in-x0229.1e100.net [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A055E65D for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:24:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id c14so659545ieb.28 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:24:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Z1oaiDXyI6CQbTa8ss9fCjMpGKJg94g9VbCBze0HE5c=; b=HDrHg709gddqSgkC1U4F4d9do61yhVcSC8wydWjZ9GR2mah9bXtpDTSIBLILzFaRhj HkgDCiGFINahyyrbTMkyB5RwWygb9v9Yk0HBEUPMG0kfGyJXD0CpgquqZbvhnFJryoc7 J0ZDazJ0jto/JfhvGZPQu3pqP9QP5kEdxe/OtncNOB/GIZZhmHbRB0DXdBov0MsnLkmV XRt8RTyLx4V7GDyptqVjWzn+/0A+lcrvh12SJhxJ3cEZmqA9V49qIHIsAFVkdBC5dMFF LrDAqscNkeSjZicK1tqfgsh2MWgFgmZNlN0XeD6t75kB8/+b4kr3Qbb4dQoZ4yzkv19H z5Hw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.11.161 with SMTP id r1mr3419990igb.13.1359318292254; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:24:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.5.70 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:24:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <290f5ae2dcb93a7a4a97afa7acf4fbcd.squirrel@wm.sdf.org> References: <51054F6A.1080701@a1poweruser.com> <290f5ae2dcb93a7a4a97afa7acf4fbcd.squirrel@wm.sdf.org> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:24:52 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: who am i logged in as From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: cpet@sdf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Fbsd8 , FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:24:53 -0000 On 27 January 2013 11:31, wrote: >> I know there is a command that will give me the name >> of the account I am logged in on. >> >> But I can not recall the name of this command. >> >> What is the name of this command? >> >> Thanks >> > name@hactar:/home/name % who > name pts/0 Jan 27 16:31 (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) > name@hactar:/home/name % whoami > name > name@hactar:/home/name % > > also id > > man who > man whoami > man id > ~> ls -li `which whoami id` 1201423 -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 12008 Nov 30 20:26 /usr/bin/id 1201423 -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 12008 Nov 30 20:26 /usr/bin/whoami -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 22:41:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D17AC0E for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:41:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnagyjr1978@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yh0-f51.google.com (mail-yh0-f51.google.com [209.85.213.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50E49D1 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:41:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f51.google.com with SMTP id q1so308842yhf.24 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:40:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=d6C5E2F/8rTUIZcnqhcItKVl32+C+V6Laeaq7b78iK8=; b=b+ilQ/K1s6p8qq/o1t2L/Am47u8HvwrXk4Ph58U7ZnMJ4Zz7aMDCTpH3PTmvC4eVds DG4roRTwXYjIG9O8dtnI4yXnhcXVLFJs/Cf0ZEKwNJ+7xGYmMWSeW/YAyDFaou9NM9Sp wZzWqHsMCGhTHL6gw4NsUMqIP4YksIhenVqS7rvpHqRWf4Q75ZdGdiVhBdyPDY0Q3BpT Fb2aKCIKRWj4CSxq2Lp9IpDse36egzHJGEsk8uOitGnsNzbwXPjyKIohG7dXnIsTzwHY SOuZ0IW0gPOkVE0uqclFOjnjdtOBJS6F9e39X8tx2RIfyDAsiOjEmXQV1cGSJnV7iIv6 wx5Q== X-Received: by 10.236.188.230 with SMTP id a66mr13453910yhn.81.1359326455409; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:40:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (vid-196.dhcp.grp10.tnmmrl.infoave.net. [204.116.254.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t2sm7178607anj.3.2013.01.27.14.40.54 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:40:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5105ACF3.7000105@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:40:51 -0600 From: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130112 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jimmy Olgeni Subject: Re: [OT-ish] Need a Binary for lang/sml-nj References: <51041F2E.6090008@gmail.com> <51044400.8030602@gmail.com> <51049785.2050101@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Questions @ FreeBSD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:41:02 -0000 On 01/27/13 05:20, Jimmy Olgeni wrote: > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2013, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: > >> Failed to install the following 1 package(s): >> ftp://ftp1.us.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9.0-release/lang/smlnj-110.0.7_3.tbz >> > > My fault - I didn't immediately connect "pkg repo" to pkgng :) > > I fired up a 9.1 VM and built an i386 package which should work better. > > http://people.freebsd.org/~olgeni/smlnj-110.0.7_3.txz > My bad for assuming people were switching over to pkgng en masse. (: At this point I'm not sure what the problem is, though I do appreciate the help. root@alex-laptop:/root # pkg add http://people.freebsd.org/~olgeni/smlnj-110.0.7_3.txz smlnj-110.0.7_3.txz 100% 2586KB 287.3KB/s 285.9KB/s 00:09 Installing smlnj-110.0.7_3...pkg: wrong architecture: freebsd:9:x86:32 instead of freebsd:9:x86:64 Failed to install the following 1 package(s): http://people.freebsd.org/~olgeni/smlnj-110.0.7_3.txz I'm about ready to give up and unenroll in the free course I signed up for. Unless someone else has a suggestion, I don't know what to do at this point. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr "Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid." -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 22:44:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6EAAE12 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:44:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olgeni@olgeni.com) Received: from olgeni.olgeni.com (olgeni.olgeni.com [31.171.246.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB74A01 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:44:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from olgeni.olgeni (dynamic-adsl-94-36-162-8.clienti.tiscali.it [94.36.162.8]) by olgeni.olgeni.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 45B8917458A; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:44:23 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:44:22 +0100 (CET) From: Jimmy Olgeni X-X-Sender: olgeni@olgeni.olgeni To: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" Subject: Re: [OT-ish] Need a Binary for lang/sml-nj In-Reply-To: <5105ACF3.7000105@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <51041F2E.6090008@gmail.com> <51044400.8030602@gmail.com> <51049785.2050101@gmail.com> <5105ACF3.7000105@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "Questions @ FreeBSD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:44:24 -0000 On Sun, 27 Jan 2013, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: > root@alex-laptop:/root # pkg add > http://people.freebsd.org/~olgeni/smlnj-110.0.7_3.txz > smlnj-110.0.7_3.txz 100% 2586KB 287.3KB/s 285.9KB/s 00:09 > Installing smlnj-110.0.7_3...pkg: wrong architecture: freebsd:9:x86:32 > instead of freebsd:9:x86:64 pkg is right - I built the package on i386 and it refuses to install it on amd64 :| > I'm about ready to give up and unenroll in the free course I signed up for. > Unless someone else has a suggestion, I don't know what to do at this point. Would using sml in a jail or virtualbox vm work for you? -- jimmy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 22:49:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180C4F95 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:49:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35BAA3D for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:49:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-191.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.191]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6549C3CBB5; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:49:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0RMnAwc004190; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:49:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:49:10 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" Subject: Re: [OT-ish] Need a Binary for lang/sml-nj Message-Id: <20130127234910.40352448.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <5105ACF3.7000105@gmail.com> References: <51041F2E.6090008@gmail.com> <51044400.8030602@gmail.com> <51049785.2050101@gmail.com> <5105ACF3.7000105@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Questions @ FreeBSD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:49:15 -0000 On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:40:51 -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: > At this point I'm not sure what the problem is, though I do appreciate > the help. > > root@alex-laptop:/root # pkg add > http://people.freebsd.org/~olgeni/smlnj-110.0.7_3.txz > smlnj-110.0.7_3.txz 100% 2586KB 287.3KB/s 285.9KB/s > 00:09 > Installing smlnj-110.0.7_3...pkg: wrong architecture: freebsd:9:x86:32 > instead of freebsd:9:x86:64 > > Failed to install the following 1 package(s): > http://people.freebsd.org/~olgeni/smlnj-110.0.7_3.txz Did you have any success using the old-fashioned pkg_add method with the -f option, and using the FreeBSD 9-STABLE precompiled package (should work for 9.1-RELEASE too)? # pkg_add -f ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9-stable/Latest/smlnj.tbz Again, check /usr/ports/lang/sml-nj/Makefile for runtime dependencies you might need to add, and in worst case use libmap (the library mapper) to make them work for this program. Also see /usr/ports/lang/sml-nj/pkg-descr if you can use a different ML interpreter as "suggested" in the description. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Nagy, Jr" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130112 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jimmy Olgeni Subject: Re: [OT-ish] Need a Binary for lang/sml-nj References: <51041F2E.6090008@gmail.com> <51044400.8030602@gmail.com> <51049785.2050101@gmail.com> <5105ACF3.7000105@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Questions @ FreeBSD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:51:30 -0000 On 01/27/13 16:44, Jimmy Olgeni wrote: > > On Sun, 27 Jan 2013, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: > >> root@alex-laptop:/root # pkg add >> http://people.freebsd.org/~olgeni/smlnj-110.0.7_3.txz >> smlnj-110.0.7_3.txz 100% 2586KB 287.3KB/s 285.9KB/s 00:09 >> Installing smlnj-110.0.7_3...pkg: wrong architecture: freebsd:9:x86:32 >> instead of freebsd:9:x86:64 > > pkg is right - I built the package on i386 and it refuses to install it > on amd64 :| > >> I'm about ready to give up and unenroll in the free course I signed up >> for. Unless someone else has a suggestion, I don't know what to do at >> this point. > > Would using sml in a jail or virtualbox vm work for you? > Possibly, I have the space (~18GB free on my /home partition, even more free on /). It's just a matter of me taking the time to work on setting either one up and I seem to be a perpetual "corner case" when it comes to software issues. Either way I have the package locally now (in distfiles, I assume) so it's just a matter of doing what's needed to get it working. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr "Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid." -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. 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Nagy, Jr" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130112 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: [OT-ish] Need a Binary for lang/sml-nj References: <51041F2E.6090008@gmail.com> <51044400.8030602@gmail.com> <51049785.2050101@gmail.com> <5105ACF3.7000105@gmail.com> <20130127234910.40352448.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130127234910.40352448.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Questions @ FreeBSD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:53:16 -0000 On 01/27/13 16:49, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:40:51 -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: >> At this point I'm not sure what the problem is, though I do appreciate >> the help. >> >> root@alex-laptop:/root # pkg add >> http://people.freebsd.org/~olgeni/smlnj-110.0.7_3.txz >> smlnj-110.0.7_3.txz 100% 2586KB 287.3KB/s 285.9KB/s >> 00:09 >> Installing smlnj-110.0.7_3...pkg: wrong architecture: freebsd:9:x86:32 >> instead of freebsd:9:x86:64 >> >> Failed to install the following 1 package(s): >> http://people.freebsd.org/~olgeni/smlnj-110.0.7_3.txz > > Did you have any success using the old-fashioned pkg_add method > with the -f option, and using the FreeBSD 9-STABLE precompiled > package (should work for 9.1-RELEASE too)? No, because I have pkgng since I installed 9.1 release (first update I did) back in December when the 9.1 image was available on the ftp server. pkg_add is no longer a valid command. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr "Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid." -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 22:59:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E2C6C4 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:59:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48EAABB for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-191.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.191]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137903CA86; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:59:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0RMxxGK004253; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:00:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:59:59 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" Subject: Re: [OT-ish] Need a Binary for lang/sml-nj Message-Id: <20130127235959.87700611.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <5105AFD1.9030101@gmail.com> References: <51041F2E.6090008@gmail.com> <51044400.8030602@gmail.com> <51049785.2050101@gmail.com> <5105ACF3.7000105@gmail.com> <20130127234910.40352448.freebsd@edvax.de> <5105AFD1.9030101@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Questions @ FreeBSD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:59:58 -0000 On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:53:05 -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: > On 01/27/13 16:49, Polytropon wrote: > > Did you have any success using the old-fashioned pkg_add method > > with the -f option, and using the FreeBSD 9-STABLE precompiled > > package (should work for 9.1-RELEASE too)? > > > No, because I have pkgng since I installed 9.1 release (first update I > did) back in December when the 9.1 image was available on the ftp > server. pkg_add is no longer a valid command. Okay, I didn't know that, as I'm still on an older system here, so I've not advanced enough to use the new pkg command on a daily basis. :-) I assume getting the sources for pkg_add from a 9.0 system and building it, then using it to forcedly install the available package is going to break something... However, does any other available (S)ML implementation (nml, polyml, moscow_ml) fit your needs? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Nagy, Jr" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130112 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: [OT-ish] Need a Binary for lang/sml-nj References: <51041F2E.6090008@gmail.com> <51044400.8030602@gmail.com> <51049785.2050101@gmail.com> <5105ACF3.7000105@gmail.com> <20130127234910.40352448.freebsd@edvax.de> <5105AFD1.9030101@gmail.com> <20130127235959.87700611.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130127235959.87700611.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Questions @ FreeBSD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:11:13 -0000 On 01/27/13 16:59, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:53:05 -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: >> On 01/27/13 16:49, Polytropon wrote: >>> Did you have any success using the old-fashioned pkg_add method >>> with the -f option, and using the FreeBSD 9-STABLE precompiled >>> package (should work for 9.1-RELEASE too)? >> >> >> No, because I have pkgng since I installed 9.1 release (first update I >> did) back in December when the 9.1 image was available on the ftp >> server. pkg_add is no longer a valid command. > > Okay, I didn't know that, as I'm still on an older system > here, so I've not advanced enough to use the new pkg command > on a daily basis. :-) > > I assume getting the sources for pkg_add from a 9.0 system > and building it, then using it to forcedly install the > available package is going to break something... Probably. > However, does any other available (S)ML implementation (nml, > polyml, moscow_ml) fit your needs? > > > > I don't know. The course I signed up for (should have read and researched the requirements, I never though i386-only would be one for a compiler) seems to require SML/NJ. I could ask the professor, though, and will. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr "Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid." -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 23:37:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED7BB2F for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:37:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olgeni@olgeni.com) Received: from olgeni.olgeni.com (olgeni.olgeni.com [31.171.246.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D50C42 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:37:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from olgeni.olgeni (dynamic-adsl-94-36-162-8.clienti.tiscali.it [94.36.162.8]) by olgeni.olgeni.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 11F4617458A; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:37:18 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:37:17 +0100 (CET) From: Jimmy Olgeni X-X-Sender: olgeni@olgeni.olgeni To: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" Subject: Re: [OT-ish] Need a Binary for lang/sml-nj In-Reply-To: <5105AF68.3090707@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <51041F2E.6090008@gmail.com> <51044400.8030602@gmail.com> <51049785.2050101@gmail.com> <5105ACF3.7000105@gmail.com> <5105AF68.3090707@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "Questions @ FreeBSD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:37:19 -0000 On Sun, 27 Jan 2013, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: > Possibly, I have the space (~18GB free on my /home partition, even more free > on /). It's just a matter of me taking the time to work on setting either one > up and I seem to be a perpetual "corner case" when it comes to software > issues. Either way I have the package locally now (in distfiles, I assume) so > it's just a matter of doing what's needed to get it working. You may try this ugly emergency fix and see if SML starts at least in a temporary jail. In your home, or wherever you have some space available... (400MB should be fine) Fetch some i386 binaries for 9.1 (or your favorite release) mkdir 9.1-i386 fetch -o - ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/9.1-RELEASE/base.txz | tar -x -f - -C 9.1-i386 Copy the resolver configuration: cp /etc/resolv.conf 9.1-i386/etc Ensure that /usr/local is populated, just in case: mtree -deU -f /usr/ports/Templates/BSD.local.dist -p 9.1-i386/usr/local Add this to your /etc/jail.conf (replace my home directory with your own path) sml { name=sml; host.hostname=sml; ip4=inherit; persist; path=/home/olgeni/9.1-i386; } Create a jail for sml: jail -c sml Enter the jail: jexec sml sh Install SML from tbz package: pkg_add -r ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9.0-release/lang/smlnj-110.0.7_3.tbz Run SML and hopefully get a prompt: sml Standard ML of New Jersey, Version 110.0.7, September 28, 2000 [CM; autoload enabled] - I got one, so it seems to work :) If SML starts this way then there is hope and you just need to clean up the configuration a bit. -- jimmy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 23:56:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B09CC9 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:56:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnagyjr1978@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yh0-f53.google.com (mail-yh0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1213CD3C for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:56:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f53.google.com with SMTP id q3so320894yhf.40 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:56:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=z3YtaG112EeV+DsZU+ut6DPa5StDJwHRqVrBoE+AM9M=; b=zjUI9rr41XoLpLFqFN6dyA/VYrSyjQ8FZ/DDY4SSh3nhGP3a3PyJ7tIznmWZSQM3rA myE39SAYeV5NibVaRlKnklNmWNCD8MxD6JW6M++DwHzRPkU5m2cmR4oFuhAHvX48wNGc 8toW88wg1/GuGxoHNaxwKQ3/lt9zW6a0FekxjCMwnxpulYP9ffgtuQgnqgew+iXAzYva JRQhvAp9x+T1NYvedIp4LrKoRfbhnlgwnrQN2ZuA997T39KqHsxAtHtli4Zrpi3tI+6A +Cc9aY/Z9zwdkvKgq84JyrDXWbGkl6KuxKGusVqi4xW0+wqNtGDTXzvxhiZqcY6TawtR OOJg== X-Received: by 10.236.82.169 with SMTP id o29mr13239603yhe.116.1359330570904; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:49:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (vid-196.dhcp.grp10.tnmmrl.infoave.net. 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Nagy, Jr" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130112 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jimmy Olgeni Subject: Re: [OT-ish] Need a Binary for lang/sml-nj References: <51041F2E.6090008@gmail.com> <51044400.8030602@gmail.com> <51049785.2050101@gmail.com> <5105ACF3.7000105@gmail.com> <5105AF68.3090707@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Questions @ FreeBSD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:56:58 -0000 On 01/27/13 17:37, Jimmy Olgeni wrote: > > On Sun, 27 Jan 2013, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: > >> Possibly, I have the space (~18GB free on my /home partition, even >> more free on /). It's just a matter of me taking the time to work on >> setting either one up and I seem to be a perpetual "corner case" when >> it comes to software issues. Either way I have the package locally now >> (in distfiles, I assume) so it's just a matter of doing what's needed >> to get it working. > > You may try this ugly emergency fix and see if SML starts at least in a > temporary jail. Thanks, I'll get to work on it and let you know the results. (: -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr "Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid." -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 00:00:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E5DD8D for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:00:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@mansionfamily.plus.com) Received: from avasout06.plus.net (avasout06.plus.net [212.159.14.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3854D65 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:00:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.barnhouse ([146.90.105.78]) by avasout06 with smtp id tBxN1k0031hWQFE01BxPxg; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:57:23 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=OMj5K1mB c=1 sm=1 a=Z40meQbRMVLGL86UJXshxw==:17 a=sEz04tew6TsA:10 a=wStlYTCvxPMA:10 a=ihvODaAuJD4A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=IpyN3E5MiDoA:10 a=XtXLnHt2WWn0UwK_gisA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Z40meQbRMVLGL86UJXshxw==:117 Received: from [192.168.0.96] (workstation.barnhouse [192.168.0.96]) by server.barnhouse (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908A3681462 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:01:52 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <5105BEE4.4030402@mansionfamily.plus.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:57:24 +0000 From: james User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: james@mansionfamily.plus.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:00:34 -0000 I have a 9.1 system with some SATA disks in RAIDZ, upgraded from 9.0. The disks are all the same type, and I formatted them for FreeBSD and put ZFS in a slice covering most of them. I have seen suggestions for OpenIndiana etc that it is better to let ZFS have the whole raw disk and that this can control the way it manages the disk writeback mode. Does this apply to FreeBSD and ZFS too? Presumably the disks are currently FreeBSD-specific. If I used raw disks instead of slices, could I read them from a Solaris system too? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 00:36:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05AEB5B1 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:36:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm5-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm5-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.207]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 471C0E54 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:36:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.82.105.245] by nm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 00:36:37 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.116] by tm17.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 00:36:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp153.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 00:36:37 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359333397; bh=pyXRYn4+GwbU5MYSAzvyCNRoDaypvirg1S5hZ3Sbthw=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=dyscdbjjjGxlaql3A2SCJx3A1Uo37+/mZ9cN8VJIzGeXQ+K2MioQxbFHSXrX04CaQarbMUQHin96yuKi4DKXH7ZEnwh0Zpa6rbxmXPaR6lqJFlkdNnFzOj4ac0RswlSkk8l7g5k+4XxAJZ99dAjvqyObTIJyzCCEhlvHGU6XN1U= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 157004.60666.bm@smtp153.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: fx2D3UQVM1mSfsqR_eEtQrxhzWje8GEO21HVA3G74wCrjxq iLyPKr6vtBPCV9Xys.gHSFSOcFv5ZM11FvwYhYipfruc7mMe1JLmXJ5Yw5dk EesshsmWaN4YQtUDeIlI4pvSFEcoQt_1UP2xVltfdKAwNR2xjX62trbaq5bK dnehcdiCdWKzAEdzU1BsgQUz0g4C7g3X3MdnXA_NRUpB2EQZL3Wb_4qYMt8l 8auOjwbeHq5o9JX1YH3wyllMGe7UWHZOrJQ2IU.GYydAsE4yS.8u8eOHLbex _sUv0IxMPZTaF3pW2UOjxfgF6AyYiS7DPTGBaN.tTxyvW3oKZV8IgFajgOxR LjnlTvg_qWkY5QXSVUanlhXuoWwZ.VyfO.tIJuaJhqVOfUSCkI_43g2Zl96N 6lw4hglbm0QQvdg.7rtrEMrsUrLomB4Dk9OT1zp_mDw-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from [78.50.22.55] (ralf.mardorf@78.50.22.55 with login) by smtp153.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2013 00:36:37 +0000 UTC Message-ID: <1359333396.2513.10.camel@q> Subject: Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:36:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20130127135806.4d19e997.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20130125133346.f1484ed8.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125150414.f262d162.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125161215.f498f4e4.freebsd@edvax.de> <5102FE7B.4070808@gmail.com> <20130127153838.15b97613@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130127135806.4d19e997.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.0-0ubuntu3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:36:40 -0000 On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 13:58 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). > # 2. `make buildworld' > # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). > # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). > # [steps 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] > # 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). > # 6. `mergemaster -p' > # 7. `make installworld' > # 8. `make delete-old' > # 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -i, along with -U or -F). > # 10. `reboot' > # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) What source tree? I only checked out the kernel source using svn and IIRC it's using the /usr/src directory (I'm booted into Linux at the moment), without a subdirectory /kernel. I can delete the kernel source, since it's IMO fishy to have headers of another revision, than the kernel is, but when I asked, I got a reply, that it should be ok for FreeBSD. However, I never used the kernel source. When I updated I did it like that (without subversion or cvs): # cd /usr/ports/misc/mc && make install clean # uname -r 8.3-RELEASE # freebsd-update -r 9.1-RELEASE upgrade # freebsd-update install # shutdown -r now # freebsd-update install # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade && make install clean # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -f ruby # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -af # freebsd-update install # shutdown -r now # freebsd-update IDS >> outfile.ids I wanted to run it tonight, but since I don't know where my source tree is, I can't continue. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 00:46:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A31F724 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:46:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1512E92 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:46:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-191.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.191]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253F5246B5; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:46:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0S0kWIl004773; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:46:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:46:31 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Ralf Mardorf Subject: Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD Message-Id: <20130128014631.4a31dade.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1359333396.2513.10.camel@q> References: <20130125133346.f1484ed8.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125150414.f262d162.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125161215.f498f4e4.freebsd@edvax.de> <5102FE7B.4070808@gmail.com> <20130127153838.15b97613@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130127135806.4d19e997.freebsd@edvax.de> <1359333396.2513.10.camel@q> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:46:31 -0000 On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:36:36 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 13:58 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). > > # 2. `make buildworld' > > # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). > > # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). > > # [steps 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] > > # 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). > > # 6. `mergemaster -p' > > # 7. `make installworld' > > # 8. `make delete-old' > > # 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -i, along with -U or -F). > > # 10. `reboot' > > # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) > > > What source tree? I only checked out the kernel source using svn and > IIRC it's using the /usr/src directory (I'm booted into Linux at the > moment), without a subdirectory /kernel. I can delete the kernel source, > since it's IMO fishy to have headers of another revision, than the > kernel is, but when I asked, I got a reply, that it should be ok for > FreeBSD. However, I never used the kernel source. The content of /usr/src does not only contain the kernel. It's the whole OS, except of course you have only installed selected parts of this tree. The file I've mentioned is at the top of this structure: /usr/src/Makefile contains a short instruction of how to install kernel and world (and explains other possible targets). > When I updated I did it like that (without subversion or cvs): > > # cd /usr/ports/misc/mc && make install clean > # uname -r > 8.3-RELEASE > # freebsd-update -r 9.1-RELEASE upgrade > # freebsd-update install > # shutdown -r now > > # freebsd-update install > # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade && make install clean > # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -f ruby > # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db > # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb > # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db > # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -af > # freebsd-update install > # shutdown -r now > > # freebsd-update IDS >> outfile.ids > > I wanted to run it tonight, but since I don't know where my source tree > is, I can't continue. That's the binary way of updating. If you'd update from source, the steps would usually involve first updating /usr/src (by whatever means, CVS no more, SVN or as part of a binary update that also keeps the OS sources current). To take this approach, the sources have to be complete. You can follow a -STABLE and even -CURRENT (-HEAD) branch if you like. My suggestion would have been: If you have already used this method before, and maybe if your current system has been installed that way, you can "do it again"; if /usr/obj (the "result tree" for building world and kernel) is still present, only the "make installworld" steps would have been involved; even better, if you only have to deal with a few system components, a selective "make install" would have been sufficient. However, it has already been suggested to utilize mtree, because a real re-installation isn't actually needed (as no files have been changed, only their permissions, and that can be checked and corrected using the /etc/mtree reference files). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 00:53:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0538E7E6 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:53:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm21-vm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm21-vm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.109.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 35DF0EB7 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:53:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.52] by nm21.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 00:52:53 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.4] by tm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 00:52:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp197.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 00:52:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359334373; bh=ExKLOJ5bgPYAOzWIlnHIDUkYJKNKTE7SdE1v/+FPbPA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=01gdt1WjrocAZBRGQ0WeWpyn18ke2zAgm2+uuFh4KZHYirCmn4L2FnrolX8ORoGDTT835UIR5+uJX0OZp5DL4POvnTjjUpWujAlmtZQFy2IZZwiZnzNpg/Ewv/iuUO19+GpKX2lFrPeUYyJZQYDQMH5hcYKkhNYHGFSWeN0z3NU= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 111784.83447.bm@smtp197.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: jOUfOmIVM1l4U3bYIVU5G1ez9mVZyRQ2jOMc.CynCcTMh5k nd3Y3obDqMyJYXUMDUkAJA85pkfabnXZT5Y6PbL6Em7F8cImuHICQ4Kyp.H2 QpCh0EPp.dyTMxA7S8d5W1gG7oPMd9uHFsy_5_17FK9ogrmPj6VPpnasTkmJ rTrLyT_.o0pVxFnDB9k7Nn7X36QGl2c86P4P5IFxxdWkbpEeFhkLcsfSWCRP w6H6aqxBah62MbsVRFEgURp2FF0n3LeUADqFp1.eZ5p.IOIV9PYc1H6M.TIq yUl.olUSSb0WFdY4B1Vq_tkczlm5yR6sLqjYs2KwtX5n4KO2QCGY7trpPi5R rapkWO7JOOWSc1N6tp1xfwJw.6eXQYxsGfziMhEsICTUgBf.I7X8J6SnomVR 92Z4V8uBAcN2KXR0tgOLR6r4O6FjlCTISAiEkRr0InA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from [78.50.22.55] (ralf.mardorf@78.50.22.55 with login) by smtp197.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2013 00:52:53 +0000 UTC Message-ID: <1359334372.2513.15.camel@q> Subject: Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:52:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1359333396.2513.10.camel@q> References: <20130125133346.f1484ed8.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125150414.f262d162.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125161215.f498f4e4.freebsd@edvax.de> <5102FE7B.4070808@gmail.com> <20130127153838.15b97613@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130127135806.4d19e997.freebsd@edvax.de> <1359333396.2513.10.camel@q> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.0-0ubuntu3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:53:02 -0000 PS: On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 01:36 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > # cd /usr/ports/misc/mc && make install clean > # uname -r > 8.3-RELEASE > # freebsd-update -r 9.1-RELEASE upgrade > # freebsd-update install > # shutdown -r now > > # freebsd-update install > # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade && make install clean > # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -f ruby > # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db > # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb > # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db > # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -af > # freebsd-update install > # shutdown -r now > > # freebsd-update IDS >> outfile.ids And I didn't, still don't understand how to set the BATCH-variable to yes, so it didn't run automatically. # setenv BASH yes Is this correct? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 01:23:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF8ECBF for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:23:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm25-vm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm25-vm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.109.208]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C6FDFA0 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:23:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.230] by nm25.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 01:23:23 -0000 Received: from [217.146.188.74] by tm11.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 01:23:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 01:23:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359336203; bh=5EuruW1n0AHzGnkxRV4wx66RBcAtcpLy4eoBViiGNF4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cFewYtK/rnmmCHDEx6/BA5U4OmQCiXQJPNgjeZaeP/UP2NKcgeunaer8pg05yXI9KmUOL4XXtwxCSeSDKxKBtrtVZg1Bia3CJKEW0dD03vxaUq+XNU43wkAZJhBEg5N3IYzuOLNj9cpxQYmqC7Cv5JDQ/WyOZjCkuJyVVojbG2A= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 646963.90086.bm@smtp102.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Pm5zCG0VM1mFqqA_z1pqNRm8X7YP3To6rbwo7JmhGBnBmzY 6RssUrE_mOzv5pyVhmKAHM62EO9NKDzOP.f0zcsy4jnpuJFy75oAQ7Pp7ED. 9NoK32jHKgqYDZ.gUBYnJ_zGRTPg2qcPmbZ5EUtltpKwXyzYkYrvaUCWNpo2 BN8qVap9HIMV0eGGcAY92LnX6XrS_5t_Ewc5oZYSqhOKVdrXrHqqsTpiFrkB GnxbroyE8zjNdwveggBd2xaiEgSwXGEZCrPTkSyL2zfFB4AFb.9piq3_RYZY CB_AWY8wjdikMN6NbonlmlZkI5s7Tn3YdM0wKip1QX1Seg7mYhyx_gORxs16 fi1G2ErZvUMOlGFD95X9KkzYgEtCy7LdTt1T7tz4Jsb2AsNlUqQ2EG5Zxl9u ds6pzcy8lWTkXC9g80SEPJF5Utvr34s3rxh_iDmMiX3S7IAwAj0DKOhLfB3b bw_WXx.0whl1Lac0Ow0ueOZRnIwFI6ZkXwmyKH13izBbTxSDenU0r9wDzaet 4ZQDsoC_3vQ_5PkC3brVhPJpn X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from [78.50.22.55] (ralf.mardorf@78.50.22.55 with login) by smtp102.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2013 17:23:23 -0800 PST Message-ID: <1359336202.2513.30.camel@q> Subject: Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 02:23:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20130127135806.4d19e997.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20130125133346.f1484ed8.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125150414.f262d162.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125161215.f498f4e4.freebsd@edvax.de> <5102FE7B.4070808@gmail.com> <20130127153838.15b97613@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130127135806.4d19e997.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.0-0ubuntu3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:23:31 -0000 On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 13:58 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:38:38 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:15:09 +0100 > > "Ralf Mardorf" wrote: > > > Is there a command to deinstall and reinstall all ports or an idea > > > for a script to do it? > > > > > Check portupgrade or one of other utilities to handle ports. There is > > one option to force an upgrade even if it would be a downgrade. > > With tools like portmaster, this task can easily be automated. > If you only will have to handle a few ports, using the "bare > ports method" (make) is probably the easiest way (in case > everything else stays definitely consistent). *?* This is how I updated my ports, after I updated FreeBSD: root@freebsd:/root # portmaster --list-origins > ~/installed-port-list root@freebsd:/root # portsnap fetch update root@freebsd:/root # portmaster -ty --clean-distfiles root@freebsd:/root # portmaster --check-port-dbdir delete? always y root@freebsd:/root # portmaster -Faf root@freebsd:/root # pkg_delete -a root@freebsd:/root # rm -rf /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg No backup of files in /usr/local, such as configuration files in /usr/local/etc needed. root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/bin total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/sbin total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib total 12 drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512B Jan 18 16:17 X11 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2.2k Jan 14 19:30 charset.alias drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 3.0k Jan 18 16:19 compat drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1.0k Jan 18 16:10 dssi root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib/dssi total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib/compat total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib/X11 total 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512B Jan 18 16:14 app-defaults drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512B Jan 18 16:14 fonts root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /var/db/pkg total 9424 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 9.2M Dec 23 22:42 pkgdb.db root@freebsd:/root # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster && make deinstall install clean root@freebsd:/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster # portmaster `cat ~/installed-port-list` I still had to manually answer yes a million times, when I was asked if something should be deleted or not. I stopped by Ctrl + C, add --no-confirm to the command and run it again. I guess I need to add --force-config -G -y -no-confirm ? Compiling > 400, from > 800 packages needed > 2 day. How do I reinstall all ports [1]? Is recompiling everything needed? Isn't it possible to reinstall everything? Isn't there a cache with all the binaries? Resp. the binaries are already installed ;) and could be copied to a cache, tmp. [1] *?* http://howtounix.info/man/FreeBSD/man8/portmaster.8 *?* Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 01:37:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8C3120 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:37:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net [IPv6:2001:44b8:8060:ff02:300:1:6:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9978C8F for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:37:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ppp247-71.static.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([203.122.247.71]) by ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 28 Jan 2013 12:07:47 +1030 Message-ID: <5105D611.4000506@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 12:06:17 +1030 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: james@mansionfamily.plus.com Subject: Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice? References: <5105BEE4.4030402@mansionfamily.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <5105BEE4.4030402@mansionfamily.plus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:37:50 -0000 On 28/01/2013 10:27, james wrote: > I have a 9.1 system with some SATA disks in RAIDZ, upgraded from 9.0. > > The disks are all the same type, and I formatted them for FreeBSD and > put ZFS in a slice covering most of them. > > I have seen suggestions for OpenIndiana etc that it is better to let ZFS > have the whole raw disk and that this can control the way it manages the > disk writeback mode. > > Does this apply to FreeBSD and ZFS too? > > Presumably the disks are currently FreeBSD-specific. If I used raw > disks instead of slices, could I read them from a Solaris system too? I recall reading that using partitions for zfs on FreeBSD was as good as full disks. For a boot zpool we need to at least have a partition for the boot-code and one for zfs preventing the use of a full disk. ZFS is meant to be compatible between different endian systems (x86 and sparc) From what I have read and heard it sounds like zpools are expected be compatible between different OS's as well - as far as zpool versions are compatible - but I do expect it would depend on the partition tables being readable - while full disk usage should work I would also think GPT is compatible. OSX 10.5 (x86 and ppc) included a read-only zfs kext (before Apple canned the project) so it must have been able to read Solaris or FreeBSD created zpools which does indicate a fairly high level of compatibility. I believe the way ZFS marks disks/partitions with the zpool data is so that the zpools can be recognised between systems and controllers - it would be interesting to know if and under what conditions a zpool can be accessed, both between different FreeBSD machines as well as the possibility of reading on a Solaris/Indiana machine. Anyone have the resources to test? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 01:38:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582B81BF for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:38:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm24-vm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm24-vm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.109.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BCEC9F for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:38:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.48] by nm24.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 01:38:03 -0000 Received: from [217.146.189.66] by tm1.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 01:38:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp146.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 01:38:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359337083; bh=u72H7Z2K4mCe5km1jfi9Qm/ev5989m87Mz5Kkj3sRGE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=l911zczM8kiz36rrLw3WFs6wLNlSF8XA3T7LlEDu5tSgM2dc7zOO2GZUtERVkrkeY85CWOzblFSIErsaWVyCXMnrCEmdwnnlzQnNhaj5wt4Ex25qJ/hidK1whY4w+yyZeUAm1+qVbInIulAeg8d0E2WTHwKpeRknsDQDKjNy3Kg= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 95016.96603.bm@smtp146.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: qVk1_5UVM1mmgImGmH6STUXSAMgnTyNd2QqPFkX.2gcmeMI AWOhiM1NRZtPLORinccYOvcsdG9NxXklJzE028NfpXZ47Q0kXhfHT4Zs.9tv 3iVJDkO9tYopKDZWFAFKt.2TVsR_awRSqxAw84Om_nZm0JVAAdeFTwFVLy6z ATLof8hFaEIj1cyJm4Q0nhrsboV6zYNwFkA4BKFBSVZHexZ_Rdn1.fkzf73W O9Qt.zIa2G97BqHdCTcEK9Lo5uFxsQdv4elrKxIArrE9LAW4Ycc6WhArRXCb sdcbsNSca0JWfGUDdyT5VlM_jmv9hU70QhrgOZ9vheOPdlJEey8VYTmjDqtj nGwz.SuW8y2tbDaSt5zOi0qGzymhlR4Mz3XG6oh158w62vfYYpWmYgwEPV6E W9t_Hfn8X3S6IsbE_xTKMuieXBXSt8ZGugLf1xm4xmg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from [78.50.22.55] (ralf.mardorf@78.50.22.55 with login) by smtp146.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2013 17:38:03 -0800 PST Message-ID: <1359337082.2513.39.camel@q> Subject: Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 02:38:02 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1359336202.2513.30.camel@q> References: <20130125133346.f1484ed8.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125150414.f262d162.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125161215.f498f4e4.freebsd@edvax.de> <5102FE7B.4070808@gmail.com> <20130127153838.15b97613@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130127135806.4d19e997.freebsd@edvax.de> <1359336202.2513.30.camel@q> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.0-0ubuntu3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:38:11 -0000 On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 13:58 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > If you only will have to handle a few ports, using the "bare > > ports method" (make) is probably the easiest way (in case > > everything else stays definitely consistent). What could become inconsistent without upgrading or downgrading? I didn't update again, I e.g. kept the Chromium version with the security risk, since, as you explained, there's no way to really control dependency issues, when installing security updates. If there should be a valid method I understand, to find out what ports have wrong permissions, it would be nice, but I don't understand what to do, the output I already have is hardly comprehensible and understandable. :) Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 02:04:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5C4397 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 02:04:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm16-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm16-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95035145 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 02:04:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.82.105.245] by nm16.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 02:04:28 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.102] by tm17.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 02:04:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp139.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 02:04:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359338668; bh=ichXrEYWJt1zaUxBD6RIsZ8rdAmWC2uC1pC/jVKu3u4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Yij9vCUJXP+94/CjT69IyMrXoAzc+lE6hY8gMsHHRGK9GMZnwXWRSJw7sigrYRzu4I1laif8eu1f0q0jlKh3aGBdj1yG+MpeWJ+jSf971TLYk2UuwwaQ8UJWs6fg7tkueabMG/y5WOZSGcNgajL/teh4CvCBtA++8E0S25MXs1k= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 845281.13471.bm@smtp139.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: o021OJ0VM1lovxNSSis.l2zKlZIna4ytSrdKIm0Rs9IzfDS FcGmWeNkhSKYYt7EAbU8v2zskILQgJAWqTcES7JcrF71VjTnePev0Ekx3deS vXNLT0KpkcdCWSINF5ZzTHKj8tJVH0kzv7Bp4u3DrSV8yjOkBEAUsrPxWIrB ocGCwrc_RSN_qgiUrutFd8.a.7UIkAROwqEHyv0yKlz_36EQy2qn_DYRlqaX 1aOaS_jyMFDiioaveOJBYs6bWFVj.A_8mrXb3HvQj4xXZ4BNKBOSCBPNPVPI 9Dbc_OE2nOP.5hj5D8_dPFJcM6F36X86J3GV8dWDhapxQZdjkEKmCLSt4Xxz 4Qpv8h00N2kW4_BsJrwYb6svkB0pKQUU.YukMlOo1cE0b48hOkPN.iZvIT.H tiYmUI1EgXB12d2YnWNgLS7NtKNfpH8eHAPmhrfJ9iQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from [78.50.22.55] (ralf.mardorf@78.50.22.55 with login) by smtp139.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2013 02:04:28 +0000 UTC Message-ID: <1359338667.2513.48.camel@q> Subject: Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD From: Ralf Mardorf To: Polytropon Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:04:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20130128014631.4a31dade.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20130125133346.f1484ed8.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125150414.f262d162.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125161215.f498f4e4.freebsd@edvax.de> <5102FE7B.4070808@gmail.com> <20130127153838.15b97613@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130127135806.4d19e997.freebsd@edvax.de> <1359333396.2513.10.camel@q> <20130128014631.4a31dade.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.0-0ubuntu3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 02:04:31 -0000 On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 01:46 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:36:36 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 13:58 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > > # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). > > > # 2. `make buildworld' > > > # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). > > > # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). > > > # [steps 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] > > > # 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). > > > # 6. `mergemaster -p' > > > # 7. `make installworld' > > > # 8. `make delete-old' > > > # 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -i, along with -U or -F). > > > # 10. `reboot' > > > # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) > > > > > > What source tree? I only checked out the kernel source using svn and > > IIRC it's using the /usr/src directory (I'm booted into Linux at the > > moment), without a subdirectory /kernel. I can delete the kernel source, > > since it's IMO fishy to have headers of another revision, than the > > kernel is, but when I asked, I got a reply, that it should be ok for > > FreeBSD. However, I never used the kernel source. > > The content of /usr/src does not only contain the kernel. It's > the whole OS, except of course you have only installed selected > parts of this tree. The file I've mentioned is at the top of > this structure: /usr/src/Makefile contains a short instruction > of how to install kernel and world (and explains other possible > targets). Before I checked out the kernel source it was empty. > > When I updated I did it like that (without subversion or cvs): > > > > # cd /usr/ports/misc/mc && make install clean > > # uname -r > > 8.3-RELEASE > > # freebsd-update -r 9.1-RELEASE upgrade > > # freebsd-update install > > # shutdown -r now > > > > # freebsd-update install > > # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade && make install clean > > # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -f ruby > > # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db > > # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb > > # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db > > # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -af > > # freebsd-update install > > # shutdown -r now > > > > # freebsd-update IDS >> outfile.ids > > > > I wanted to run it tonight, but since I don't know where my source tree > > is, I can't continue. > > That's the binary way of updating. The kernel definitively was compiled. > If you'd update from source, > the steps would usually involve first updating /usr/src (by > whatever means, CVS no more, SVN or as part of a binary update > that also keeps the OS sources current). To take this approach, > the sources have to be complete. You can follow a -STABLE and > even -CURRENT (-HEAD) branch if you like. > > My suggestion would have been: If you have already used this > method before, and maybe if your current system has been installed > that way, you can "do it again"; if /usr/obj (the "result tree" > for building world and kernel) is still present, only the > "make installworld" steps would have been involved; even better, > if you only have to deal with a few system components, a selective > "make install" would have been sufficient. > > However, it has already been suggested to utilize mtree, because > a real re-installation isn't actually needed (as no files have > been changed, only their permissions, and that can be checked > and corrected using the /etc/mtree reference files). # umount # mtree -U -f /etc/mtree ? Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 02:25:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71BC6745 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 02:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net [88.44.60.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9F31E3 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 02:25:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.60]) by smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:24:29 +0100 Received: from [78.50.22.55] ([78.50.22.55]) by out.alice-dsl.de over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:24:07 +0100 Message-ID: <1359339846.2513.56.camel@q> Subject: Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:24:06 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20130126002418.GA73521@neutralgood.org> References: <20130126002418.GA73521@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.0-0ubuntu3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2013 02:24:08.0220 (UTC) FILETIME=[8D10E5C0:01CDFCFE] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 02:25:35 -0000 On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 19:24 -0500, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > You can use mtree against the spec files in /etc/mtree/ to check for and > fix incorrect permissions and owners on base system files. It won't help > with /usr/local, but at least you can get the base straight. > > As root, from the root directory, something like this: > mtree -U -f /etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist > > There are other spec files in that directory. Poke around. So mtree can't fix /usr/local and poking around without knowledge is asking for trouble :(. /etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist is for the whole base? 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Nagy, Jr" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130112 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jimmy Olgeni Subject: Re: [OT-ish] Need a Binary for lang/sml-nj References: <51041F2E.6090008@gmail.com> <51044400.8030602@gmail.com> <51049785.2050101@gmail.com> <5105ACF3.7000105@gmail.com> <5105AF68.3090707@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Questions @ FreeBSD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:30:30 -0000 On 01/27/13 17:37, Jimmy Olgeni wrote: > > On Sun, 27 Jan 2013, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: > >> Possibly, I have the space (~18GB free on my /home partition, even >> more free on /). 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Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 03:51:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E27C81A for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:51:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACC2789 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:51:26 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=uWEkAuWmV9R4EGbJq28WVLKyIAqRXI9S4o1a7jxdUWY=; b=yerHGz0r1BqxuiqUBTvPj0MDsnzNo3fhWxWemL3mP6oJWMK4OCJ9SeYFqB6hk2SqgiZ6oF9vJrIhV5vFnhs7IvPKyhE67VFUZCuGkHsgsZciak/VnDsnSf2yTmij3mDv; Received: from [122.129.203.50] (port=24815 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Tzfkj-000ops-8s; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:51:26 -0700 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:51:21 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Ralf Mardorf Subject: Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD Message-ID: <20130128105121.0df78676@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <1359333396.2513.10.camel@q> References: <20130125133346.f1484ed8.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125150414.f262d162.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125161215.f498f4e4.freebsd@edvax.de> <5102FE7B.4070808@gmail.com> <20130127153838.15b97613@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130127135806.4d19e997.freebsd@edvax.de> <1359333396.2513.10.camel@q> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:51:27 -0000 Hi, On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:36:36 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 13:58 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your > > source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' > > # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is > > GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel > > KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # [steps > > 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] # 5. > > `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader > > prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' > > # 8. `make delete-old' > > # 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -i, along with > > -U or -F). # 10. `reboot' > > # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses > > them anymore) > > > What source tree? I only checked out the kernel source using svn and yeah, what source tree? It seems that you do not have one. > # freebsd-update -r 9.1-RELEASE upgrade This is very much a binary upgrade. You might have a source tree for 8.3 which is not very helpful now. I do not know if this program is able to fix your problem. > I wanted to run it tonight, but since I don't know where my source > tree is, I can't continue. I think that you simply do not have one. At least not a current one. Read the handbook how you can get the source tree and then download and compile it. I believe that all other options will end in a re-installation. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 04:04:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D98A80 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 04:04:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fquest@paz.bz) Received: from mail.qcislands.net (mail.qcislands.net [207.34.147.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFAC07E3 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 04:04:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 100-236-53-209.qcislands.net ([209.53.236.100] helo=[192.168.1.5]) by mail.qcislands.net with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Tzfrs-000LCm-Mo; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:58:53 -0800 Message-ID: <5105F76F.6080500@paz.bz> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:58:39 -0800 From: Jim Pazarena User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: NcFTPd on 9.1 64-bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-local_scan: locally submitted (100) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 04:04:20 -0000 I have found that on the two machines which I installed 9.1 on, NcFTPd fails system logins for non-root attempts with "Password wrong for user XXXX from 192.168.1.51" These are logins which previously on 9.0 worked as expected, and now fail on 9.1. Has anyone else experienced this? Any suggestions? Thanks! -- Jim Pazarena fquest@paz.bz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 06:05:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE94F721 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 06:05:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f177.google.com (mail-ob0-f177.google.com [209.85.214.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7038FAB6 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 06:05:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f177.google.com with SMTP id wc18so1119056obb.36 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:05:05 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=lESpRgIe2ErA9H7RmNhmg5mwpsrV5cVPeXw6eubH+OA=; b=IPA/u1luaV9FSIL2y+c+rcsKE+R6H6dvbSml+BuUftNSNLk9qLOv8XZJGs+r8kOcjl mF8jz9QEMGGz14yzqjMH+fgRZRlRN9xHehqhRkaZKfWZaKMrtElJKAq5yUQdPeupl2MV N3+3nd0jLFo+16d5gp++wAET129VUqG/dNi2/baAuUlpXK8V48RC1LdDWkPBThxhzAO5 mBz80v5VXf1oO+Uz/c0bYmxNBIzo95TMkn8XgR40mlFEqdIfChhWWpAav9mMD/oKNCjz nqbfRjqE/yLFejfks7M8aqpFUCw+CsJqzu2la9RpjJLwow5pi4dosrJins9BrbTTGUJ9 GS5g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.19.161 with SMTP id g1mr10551149oee.117.1359353105509; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:05:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.60.10 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:05:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5105D611.4000506@ShaneWare.Biz> References: <5105BEE4.4030402@mansionfamily.plus.com> <5105D611.4000506@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:05:05 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice? From: Michael Sierchio To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl9dNIDujoTYojuVGgf+c4G8ATqjcujMwSADONts+P7rhJNlmwxXKrn1LgCSAIUIe0+wD9S X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 06:05:11 -0000 On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Shane Ambler wrote: > I recall reading that using partitions for zfs on FreeBSD was as good as > full disks. No, it isn't - ZFS can fully utilize disk caches when presented with whole devices. There are possible reasons to create partitions - one being that if an unfriendly OS sees the device, it won't try to initialize it if it sees a partition map. Another is using a cheap RAID controller that can't be fully disabled - in which case you generally need to create a partition that doesn't include the last few sectors of the disk, where such controllers keep magic data. - M From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 07:03:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DE01A6 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ateve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (relay01a.mail.uk1.eechost.net [217.69.40.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245A4D4C for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:03:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TzilB-0002R8-Kv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:04:05 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Tzikn-00066i-E8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:03:41 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:03:24 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice? Message-Id: <20130128070324.08bc4d67f570835d75d90497@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <5105BEE4.4030402@mansionfamily.plus.com> <5105D611.4000506@ShaneWare.Biz> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 15567@permanet.ie (plain) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:03:44 -0000 On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:05:05 -0800 Michael Sierchio wrote: > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Shane Ambler > wrote: > > > I recall reading that using partitions for zfs on FreeBSD was as good as > > full disks. > > No, it isn't - ZFS can fully utilize disk caches when presented with > whole devices. There are possible reasons to create partitions - one > being that if an unfriendly OS sees the device, it won't try to > initialize it if it sees a partition map. Another is using a cheap > RAID controller that can't be fully disabled - in which case you > generally need to create a partition that doesn't include the last few > sectors of the disk, where such controllers keep magic data. There's one other good reason to use partitions when mirroring. When the time comes to replace a drive in a mirror it is necessary that the new drive be the same size (or larger) than the one it replaces. Given that drives of nominally the same capacity (and even of the same type and brand bought at different times) tend not to be exactly the same size using a partition a little smaller than the whole drive makes it certain that a replacement drive will be big enough to use in the mirror when it arrives. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 07:27:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108708FF for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:27:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from i.tanusheff@procreditbank.bg) Received: from mailgate.procreditbank.bg (mailgate.procreditbank.bg [193.26.216.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012A8E1B for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:27:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 64625 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2013 07:26:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO domino-archive.procreditbank.bg) (10.0.0.60) by 192.168.1.3 with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP; 28 Jan 2013 07:26:12 -0000 Received: from domino.procreditbank.bg ([10.0.0.15]) by domino-archive.procreditbank.bg (Lotus Domino Release 8.5.1FP5) with ESMTP id 2013012809270575-125514 ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:27:05 +0200 In-Reply-To: <5103D759.5060008@aboutsupport.com> References: <5103D759.5060008@aboutsupport.com> X-Disclaimed: 18202 To: "Zyumbilev, Peter" Subject: Re: jails bind ip MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KeepSent: 1E0503D6:43485BAB-C2257B01:00288F37; type=4; flags=0; name=$KeepSent X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.5.1 September 28, 2009 From: Ivailo Tanusheff Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:27:05 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on DOMINO/BULGARIA/PROCREDITBANK(Release 8.5.1FP5|September 29, 2010) at 01/28/2013 09:27:05 AM, Serialize complete at 01/28/2013 09:27:05 AM, Itemize by SMTP Server on DOMINO-ARCHIVE/BULGARIA/PROCREDITBANK(Release 8.5.1FP5|September 29, 2010) at 01/28/2013 09:27:05 AM, Serialize by Router on DOMINO-ARCHIVE/BULGARIA/PROCREDITBANK(Release 8.5.1FP5|September 29, 2010) at 01/28/2013 09:27:18 AM, Serialize complete at 01/28/2013 09:27:18 AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:27:27 -0000 Hi, First of all usage of 127.0.0.1 as second address is nothing but wrong, as this is the loopback address :) For the second part of the question - I suppose it has nothing to do with the BSD and the jail subsystem. I am not sure why you have eth1 tbh, you should only have eth0, maybe because of this binding to 127.0.0.1, which fails as you already have this address on lo0. But from your logs: INFO 2013-01-26 16:03:03.085 Created socket: /127.0.0.1:5001 [main] ERROR 2013-01-26 16:03:03.186 A serious error occurred during PMS init org.jboss.netty.channel.ChannelException: Failed to bind to: /127.0.0.1:5001 Obviously you have error in your config, as you are not binding to address, but on local socket at the root of the system. So my guess is you must eighter change your software configuration or you should giva access to root folder to the user running the application. Regards, Ivailo Tanusheff "Zyumbilev, Peter" Sent by: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 26.01.2013 15:18 To "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" cc Subject jails bind ip Hi, I have successfully run multiple jails on freebsd 9.1 Two of the jails are FreeBSD and I have no problems with them. However I havesome strange problem with Debian 6.0 Jail. This is my config jail_debian_rootdir="/jail/debian" jail_debian_hostname="debian.bivol.net" jail_debian_ip="192.168.30.12,127.0.0.1" jail_debian_interface="bge0" jail_debian_devfs_enable="YES" jail_debian_devfs_ruleset="devfsrules_jail" jail_debian_flags="-n debian" #jail_debian_mount_enable="YES" # mount YES|NO jail_debian_fstab="/jail/conf/fstab.debian" # File with Filesystems to mount I tried with and without 127.0.0.1. This is how ifconfig looks from inside debian: root@debian:/# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr e8:39:35:25:d2:ef inet addr:192.168.30.12 Bcast:192.168.30.12 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:425676061 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:483122783 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:478459387769 (445.6 GiB) TX bytes:190485214007 (177.4 GiB) eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00 UP MULTICAST MTU:65536 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) lo0 Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:16384 Metric:1 RX packets:1273268 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1273274 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:103125473 (98.3 MiB) TX bytes:103125585 (98.3 MiB) usbus0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00 UP MTU:0 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) usbus1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00 UP MTU:0 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) usbus2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00 UP MTU:0 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) usbus3 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00 UP MTU:0 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) usbus4 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00 UP MTU:0 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) usbus5 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00 UP MTU:0 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) However, applications have problem binding. Two applications that fail are plexmedia server and psmedia server. 1. PS3 media server throws crazy errors like that it canncot bind - no matter which IP I choose: [main] INFO 2013-01-26 16:03:02.833 Loading configuration file: Panasonic.conf [main] DEBUG 2013-01-26 16:03:02.833 Base path set to file:///etc/ps3mediaserver/renderers/Panasonic.conf [main] INFO 2013-01-26 16:03:02.855 Loading configuration file: PS3.conf [main] DEBUG 2013-01-26 16:03:02.855 Base path set to file:///etc/ps3mediaserver/renderers/PS3.conf [main] INFO 2013-01-26 16:03:02.861 Loading configuration file: AirPlayer.conf [main] DEBUG 2013-01-26 16:03:02.862 Base path set to file:///etc/ps3mediaserver/renderers/AirPlayer.conf [main] INFO 2013-01-26 16:03:02.864 Checking MPlayer font cache. It can take a minute or so. [main] DEBUG 2013-01-26 16:03:02.865 launching: /usr/lib/ps3mediaserver/linux/mplayer [main] INFO 2013-01-26 16:03:03.008 Done! [main] INFO 2013-01-26 16:03:03.016 Searching for plugins in /usr/lib/ps3mediaserver/plugins [main] INFO 2013-01-26 16:03:03.029 No plugins found [main] INFO 2013-01-26 16:03:03.060 Registering transcoding engine: FFmpeg Audio [main] INFO 2013-01-26 16:03:03.078 Registering transcoding engine: MEncoder [main] INFO 2013-01-26 16:03:03.079 Registering transcoding engine: MPlayer Audio [main] INFO 2013-01-26 16:03:03.079 Registering transcoding engine: MEncoder Web [main] INFO 2013-01-26 16:03:03.080 Registering transcoding engine: MPlayer Video Dump [main] INFO 2013-01-26 16:03:03.080 Registering transcoding engine: MPlayer Web [main] INFO 2013-01-26 16:03:03.082 Registering transcoding engine: tsMuxeR [main] INFO 2013-01-26 16:03:03.083 Registering transcoding engine: Audio High Fidelity [main] INFO 2013-01-26 16:03:03.083 Registering transcoding engine: VLC Audio Streaming [main] INFO 2013-01-26 16:03:03.083 Registering transcoding engine: VLC Video Streaming [main] INFO 2013-01-26 16:03:03.084 Registering transcoding engine: dcraw Thumbnailer [main] INFO 2013-01-26 16:03:03.084 Using forced address 127.0.0.1 [main] INFO 2013-01-26 16:03:03.085 Created socket: /127.0.0.1:5001 [main] ERROR 2013-01-26 16:03:03.186 A serious error occurred during PMS init org.jboss.netty.channel.ChannelException: Failed to bind to: /127.0.0.1:5001 at org.jboss.netty.bootstrap.ServerBootstrap.bind(ServerBootstrap.java:303) ~[pms.jar:na] at net.pms.network.HTTPServer.start(HTTPServer.java:122) ~[pms.jar:na] at net.pms.PMS.init(PMS.java:468) [pms.jar:na] at net.pms.PMS.createInstance(PMS.java:811) [pms.jar:na] at net.pms.PMS.main(PMS.java:883) [pms.jar:na] Caused by: java.io.IOException: Function not implemented at sun.nio.ch.EPollArrayWrapper.epollCreate(Native Method) ~[na:1.6.0_26] at sun.nio.ch.EPollArrayWrapper.(EPollArrayWrapper.java:69) ~[na:1.6.0_26] at sun.nio.ch.EPollSelectorImpl.(EPollSelectorImpl.java:52) ~[na:1.6.0_26] at sun.nio.ch.EPollSelectorProvider.openSelector(EPollSelectorProvider.java:18) ~[na:1.6.0_26] at java.nio.channels.Selector.open(Selector.java:209) ~[na:1.6.0_26] at org.jboss.netty.channel.socket.nio.NioServerSocketPipelineSink$Boss.(NioServerSocketPipelineSink.java:218) ~[pms.jar:na] at org.jboss.netty.channel.socket.nio.NioServerSocketPipelineSink.bind(NioServerSocketPipelineSink.java:156) ~[pms.jar:na] at org.jboss.netty.channel.socket.nio.NioServerSocketPipelineSink.handleServerSocket(NioServerSocketPipelineSink.java:100) ~[pms.jar:na] at org.jboss.netty.channel.socket.nio.NioServerSocketPipelineSink.eventSunk(NioServerSocketPipelineSink.java:74) ~[pms.jar:na] at org.jboss.netty.channel.Channels.bind(Channels.java:468) ~[pms.jar:na] at org.jboss.netty.channel.AbstractChannel.bind(AbstractChannel.java:200) ~[pms.jar:na] at org.jboss.netty.bootstrap.ServerBootstrap$Binder.channelOpen(ServerBootstrap.java:348) ~[pms.jar:na] at org.jboss.netty.channel.Channels.fireChannelOpen(Channels.java:176) ~[pms.jar:na] at org.jboss.netty.channel.socket.nio.NioServerSocketChannel.(NioServerSocketChannel.java:85) ~[pms.jar:na] at org.jboss.netty.channel.socket.nio.NioServerSocketChannelFactory.newChannel(NioServerSocketChannelFactory.java:142) ~[pms.jar:na] at org.jboss.netty.channel.socket.nio.NioServerSocketChannelFactory.newChannel(NioServerSocketChannelFactory.java:90) ~[pms.jar:na] at org.jboss.netty.bootstrap.ServerBootstrap.bind(ServerBootstrap.java:282) ~[pms.jar:na] 2. Plex stars but cannot bind admin panel. PS3 is multicass FYI. Any hints what Ic an check more ? Peter _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Disclaimer: The information contained in this message is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and to others authorised to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. It you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or taking any action based on the contents of this message is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by responding to this e-mail and then delete it from your system. 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[92.242.127.250]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ft8sm3197667lab.9.2013.01.28.01.36.36 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:36:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <510646A3.3010207@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:36:35 +0200 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shane Ambler Subject: Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice? References: <5105BEE4.4030402@mansionfamily.plus.com> <5105D611.4000506@ShaneWare.Biz> In-Reply-To: <5105D611.4000506@ShaneWare.Biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , james@mansionfamily.plus.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:36:45 -0000 28.01.2013 03:36, Shane Ambler: > On 28/01/2013 10:27, james wrote: >> I have a 9.1 system with some SATA disks in RAIDZ, upgraded from 9.0. >> >> The disks are all the same type, and I formatted them for FreeBSD and >> put ZFS in a slice covering most of them. >> >> I have seen suggestions for OpenIndiana etc that it is better to let ZFS >> have the whole raw disk and that this can control the way it manages the >> disk writeback mode. >> >> Does this apply to FreeBSD and ZFS too? >> >> Presumably the disks are currently FreeBSD-specific. If I used raw >> disks instead of slices, could I read them from a Solaris system too? > > I recall reading that using partitions for zfs on FreeBSD was as good as > full disks. For a boot zpool we need to at least have a partition for > the boot-code and one for zfs preventing the use of a full disk. No, ZFS support booting from dedicated disks. There's a zfsboot file that should be written upon disk first sector and ZFS reservation space to make it bootable. The bad sides are: 1. Difficulties with boot code upgrading. 2. No swap. -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. 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[92.242.127.250]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id er8sm3266140lbb.9.2013.01.28.01.38.30 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:38:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <51064715.2000300@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:38:29 +0200 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Sierchio Subject: Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice? References: <5105BEE4.4030402@mansionfamily.plus.com> <5105D611.4000506@ShaneWare.Biz> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:38:34 -0000 28.01.2013 08:05, Michael Sierchio: > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Shane Ambler wrote: > >> I recall reading that using partitions for zfs on FreeBSD was as good as >> full disks. > > No, it isn't - ZFS can fully utilize disk caches when presented with > whole devices. There are possible reasons to create partitions - one > being that if an unfriendly OS sees the device, it won't try to > initialize it if it sees a partition map. Another is using a cheap > RAID controller that can't be fully disabled - in which case you > generally need to create a partition that doesn't include the last few > sectors of the disk, where such controllers keep magic data. That's wrong for long ago. This problem was solaris specific. Current ZFS code sees no difference between disks and partitions. One should think twice when putting two vdevs on one physical disk though. -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. 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[92.242.127.250]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gt13sm3201104lab.14.2013.01.28.01.40.54 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:40:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <510647A5.2060804@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:40:53 +0200 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve O'Hara-Smith Subject: Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice? References: <5105BEE4.4030402@mansionfamily.plus.com> <5105D611.4000506@ShaneWare.Biz> <20130128070324.08bc4d67f570835d75d90497@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20130128070324.08bc4d67f570835d75d90497@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:41:02 -0000 28.01.2013 09:03, Steve O'Hara-Smith: > On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:05:05 -0800 > Michael Sierchio wrote: > >> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Shane Ambler >> wrote: >> >>> I recall reading that using partitions for zfs on FreeBSD was as good as >>> full disks. >> >> No, it isn't - ZFS can fully utilize disk caches when presented with >> whole devices. There are possible reasons to create partitions - one >> being that if an unfriendly OS sees the device, it won't try to >> initialize it if it sees a partition map. Another is using a cheap >> RAID controller that can't be fully disabled - in which case you >> generally need to create a partition that doesn't include the last few >> sectors of the disk, where such controllers keep magic data. > > There's one other good reason to use partitions when mirroring. > When the time comes to replace a drive in a mirror it is necessary that the > new drive be the same size (or larger) than the one it replaces. Given that > drives of nominally the same capacity (and even of the same type and brand > bought at different times) tend not to be exactly the same size using a > partition a little smaller than the whole drive makes it certain that a > replacement drive will be big enough to use in the mirror when it arrives. There's no need for that as ZFS can use same or bigger partition to mirror existing one. If the second one would be smaller - do some math and cut out some swap space. -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. 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[92.242.127.250]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ml1sm3200461lab.15.2013.01.28.01.46.13 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:46:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <510648E4.2080100@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:46:12 +0200 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: james@mansionfamily.plus.com Subject: Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice? References: <5105BEE4.4030402@mansionfamily.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <5105BEE4.4030402@mansionfamily.plus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:46:16 -0000 28.01.2013 01:57, james: > I have a 9.1 system with some SATA disks in RAIDZ, upgraded from 9.0. > > The disks are all the same type, and I formatted them for FreeBSD and > put ZFS in a slice covering most of them. > > I have seen suggestions for OpenIndiana etc that it is better to let ZFS > have the whole raw disk and that this can control the way it manages the > disk writeback mode. My home computer is set up in the dedicated mode. No grave difference. Not even a scratch. > Does this apply to FreeBSD and ZFS too? No. > Presumably the disks are currently FreeBSD-specific. If I used raw > disks instead of slices, could I read them from a Solaris system too? I'm mostly sure you would be able to read disks from Solaris/x86. However Solaris/Sparc uses another labeling scheme. If you want to be fully compatible with other system GPT is a better choice. -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 10:20:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE2E260 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:20:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm4-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm4-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BBE1B8CE for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:20:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.232] by nm4.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 10:19:56 -0000 Received: from [217.146.189.107] by tm13.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 10:19:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp123.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 10:19:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359368396; bh=DdBYC4R55BbosV/kCS10OwjFgaWSDGDNti+2eR8O9pA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=6Y6zXLpfvhOGzMVaTn9cCNUXMyVkUG8LVSvoP6ZgLS9/f4XOJykTRf0auJf/skRDPHtm27YP6kYCYxs69P9DvBLyPiPPIxXs5qKNqbHI4LhMjCqO2Oas267GzV/1IFErW239LPOuNxEZnQQSFDY27rKLOFHkUsvtF+/LM09tPVI= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 143361.24771.bm@smtp123.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: jOAwdesVM1mAU0zB2DOu3BiItaMWaotRNsiQQC.z3Y4.VsR QSVvL79FbGPPrcZCAgUj8sdTPIjh5vXmum.8uPb.D2XE_nsFJM0eU7NQS8Cn Mzy.ZG_45wdmdUmKlUBGAV6heY11v3JtFqqIGDnO5sJelcWtKzexBqr0flno pbmtpiW0k.4bMfeG4y0ITMfeAlSr3ngDyEtGoH6AsnOy9yexMFssFBc5PgBM l99xPnOR_0c7SgQzedFduFbDaZ9j2LGjF.OcowBebj1a6Gd5xdvKgw3Zh2XS Qm0ihXRzbW8IyfHREXRBZQ8k1nv5fleo3Zda60I6EbCHppxQFwfjZj8Kf3j4 2wT9cWlftp5HA633Bc2_6THLoWe18gMxFpEKKiXcNRmCvq7dXDi672FYMv43 S5DBFkUC304BilO0hDTw_pp69aGAeoJEYXqhu5RE4rAXg X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from [85.182.18.100] (ralf.mardorf@85.182.18.100 with login) by smtp123.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2013 02:19:56 -0800 PST Message-ID: <1359368395.2199.36.camel@precise> Subject: Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:19:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20130128105121.0df78676@X220.ovitrap.com> References: <20130125133346.f1484ed8.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125150414.f262d162.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125161215.f498f4e4.freebsd@edvax.de> <5102FE7B.4070808@gmail.com> <20130127153838.15b97613@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130128105121.0df78676@X220.ovitrap.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.3-0ubuntu6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:20:05 -0000 On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 10:51 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:36:36 +0100 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 13:58 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > > # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your > > > source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' > > > # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is > > > GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel > > > KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # [steps > > > 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] # 5. > > > `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader > > > prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' > > > # 8. `make delete-old' > > > # 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -i, along with > > > -U or -F). # 10. `reboot' > > > # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses > > > them anymore) > > > > > > What source tree? I only checked out the kernel source using svn and > > yeah, what source tree? It seems that you do not have one. > > > # freebsd-update -r 9.1-RELEASE upgrade > > This is very much a binary upgrade. You might have a source tree for > 8.3 which is not very helpful now. > > I do not know if this program is able to fix your problem. > > > I wanted to run it tonight, but since I don't know where my source > > tree is, I can't continue. > > I think that you simply do not have one. At least not a current one. > Read the handbook how you can get the source tree and then download and > compile it. > > I believe that all other options will end in a re-installation. IIUC I can use mtree to fix the owner for world, I only need to find the smartest solution to fix the owner for software from the ports. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 10:25:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7916D3C5 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out03.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out03.alice-dsl.net [88.44.63.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16DEE946 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.59]) by smtp-out03.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:22:14 +0100 Received: from [85.182.18.100] ([85.182.18.100]) by out.alice-dsl.de over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:22:00 +0100 Message-ID: <1359368519.2199.38.camel@precise> Subject: Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:21:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20130128045712.GA47538@neutralgood.org> References: <20130126002418.GA73521@neutralgood.org> <1359339846.2513.56.camel@q> <20130128045712.GA47538@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.3-0ubuntu6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2013 10:22:00.0711 (UTC) FILETIME=[4F33D170:01CDFD41] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:25:57 -0000 On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 23:57 -0500, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 03:24:06AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 19:24 -0500, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > > > You can use mtree against the spec files in /etc/mtree/ to check for and > > > fix incorrect permissions and owners on base system files. It won't help > > > with /usr/local, but at least you can get the base straight. > > > > > > As root, from the root directory, something like this: > > > mtree -U -f /etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist > > > > > > There are other spec files in that directory. Poke around. > > > > So mtree can't fix /usr/local and poking around without knowledge is > > asking for trouble :(. > > > > /etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist is for the whole base? > > Darn. I just looked and it looks like the stock mtree files just give the > permissions of _directories_. They don't give the permissions (and owners) > of files. > > Well, one thing you can do is unpack the OS distribution somewhere else > and then use mtree to create a manifest from that. That will also give > you a single manifest instead of the multiple ones from "/etc/mtree". > That's more work than I was hoping but still less than a full reinstall. I've to search the emails, but IIRC there was an option to get the owner from a dump backup. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 11:04:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8158506 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:04:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ateve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (relay01a.mail.uk1.eechost.net [217.69.40.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB93B8D for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:04:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TzmVj-0004eg-16; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:04:33 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1TzmUq-00074h-UV; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:03:28 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:03:05 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Volodymyr Kostyrko Subject: Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice? Message-Id: <20130128110305.779e82e5c2c060be317216b6@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <510647A5.2060804@gmail.com> References: <5105BEE4.4030402@mansionfamily.plus.com> <5105D611.4000506@ShaneWare.Biz> <20130128070324.08bc4d67f570835d75d90497@sohara.org> <510647A5.2060804@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 15567@permanet.ie (plain) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:04:12 -0000 On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:40:53 +0200 Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > 28.01.2013 09:03, Steve O'Hara-Smith: > > On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:05:05 -0800 > > Michael Sierchio wrote: > > > >> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Shane Ambler > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I recall reading that using partitions for zfs on FreeBSD was as good > >>> as full disks. > >> > >> No, it isn't - ZFS can fully utilize disk caches when presented with > >> whole devices. There are possible reasons to create partitions - one > >> being that if an unfriendly OS sees the device, it won't try to > >> initialize it if it sees a partition map. Another is using a cheap > >> RAID controller that can't be fully disabled - in which case you > >> generally need to create a partition that doesn't include the last few > >> sectors of the disk, where such controllers keep magic data. > > > > There's one other good reason to use partitions when mirroring. > > When the time comes to replace a drive in a mirror it is necessary that > > the new drive be the same size (or larger) than the one it replaces. > > Given that drives of nominally the same capacity (and even of the same > > type and brand bought at different times) tend not to be exactly the > > same size using a partition a little smaller than the whole drive makes > > it certain that a replacement drive will be big enough to use in the > > mirror when it arrives. > > There's no need for that as ZFS can use same or bigger partition to > mirror existing one. If the second one would be smaller - do some math > and cut out some swap space. The problem arises when a drive fails, you order a replacement (go down the shop whatever) and when the new disc arrives and it's a few blocks smaller than the existing one. Then it cannot be used to mirror the existing one and you're in for a messy job to get a working mirror up. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 11:44:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A7ADDE for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:44:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30311A5 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:44:18 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=CkCsqoLvPSEAjLgub2edCR7XvA7Wwd1o9zNAwdRAr7U=; b=pEqk1OCIgvKDd+DhlS5Umtce3W3I1BzQiFvyryomsy1Cke/dIVdPZcJilwFbhCsAc3pKtfMU4OpZEAsX52dOPQ5v04DGfejYocVkVtJY6tAtCudn6Uf8WMxlpAY6PClA; Received: from [122.129.203.50] (port=64704 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Tzn8F-002lpJ-DZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 04:44:12 -0700 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:44:07 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: creating bootable disk with gpart Message-ID: <20130128184407.70a03e5a@X220.ovitrap.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:44:19 -0000 Hi, I followed http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html to create bootable disks with GPT. As you know from my former post, I tried to boot via USB from a GPT disk and failed. I inserted the disk into the notebook and bootin also failed. Irony is that inserting the MBR disk into the USB case results also in a failure but much later. Booting from the GPT disk fails already at BIOS level. The BIOS does not find the loader and returns to the selection menu of available boot devices when using the GPT disk. I know that I could boot via USB. But I do not know anymore if I booted from the GPT or from the MBR disk. I can exclude an error with the USB adapter as booting from a thumb drive via USB also fails. The BIOS of my X220 did not get any updates since I purchased it. So, nothing should have changed. I am bit irritated at the moment as you can imagine. If somebody has an idea what is wrong or what I am doing wrong, please tell me. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 12:56:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197F2653 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 12:56:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s1.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s1.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D462A888 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 12:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP449 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s1.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 04:55:08 -0800 X-EIP: [w11mP+g34DaZY1zBb6FT7ZlLIzZfGPTW] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([76.182.104.150]) by BLU0-SMTP449.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 04:55:07 -0800 Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3YvrQy3YhNz2CG5l for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:55:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:55:06 -0500 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD Subject: Starting with ZFS on fresh install X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2013 12:55:08.0157 (UTC) FILETIME=[B358D2D0:01CDFD56] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 12:56:16 -0000 I have a spare amd64 PC that I want to install FreeBSD 9.x on. I want it to utilize ZFS right from the start. There are two HD's in the PC. One will handle the "/var" partition and the other everything else. The last FBSD installer I used was on the 7.x branch. Does the new installer in the 9.x branch handle that automatically? Would it be advantageous to run something like FreeDOS to remove the existing partition information=2C etcetera and then reformat the dives? They are currently formatted in Microsoft's NTFS format. Also=2C for the 9.1 branch=2C I read that I have to run: # /usr/sbin/pkg To bootstrap the system. I also need to place: WITH_PKGNG=3D yes in the /etc/rc.conf file. I am slightly confused with the this: Existing FreeBSD installations require conversion of the pkg_install package database to the new format. To convert the package database=2C run: # pkg2ng This step is not required for new installations that do not have third-party software installed. If when I do the initial installation and include Bash for instance=2C does that mean I have to run that command? What happens if I run it and it is not actually required? Thanks! --=20 Carmel =E2=9C=8C carmel_ny@hotmail.com Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 13:03:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253FAB7B for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E334991A for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:03:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-191.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.191]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9382B7A5 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:03:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0SD3nN2002236 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:03:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:03:49 +0100 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Starting with ZFS on fresh install Message-Id: <20130128140349.7aee4be6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:03:56 -0000 On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:55:06 -0500, Carmel wrote: > I have a spare amd64 PC that I want to install FreeBSD 9.x on. I want > it to utilize ZFS right from the start. There are two HD's in the PC. > One will handle the "/var" partition and the other everything else. The > last FBSD installer I used was on the 7.x branch. Does the new > installer in the 9.x branch handle that automatically? If you tell it to? :-) No, honestly: The PC-BSD installer can be used to install a normal FreeBSD system _and_ take care of ZFS initialisation. > Would it be advantageous to run something like FreeDOS to remove the > existing partition information, etcetera and then reformat the dives? > They are currently formatted in Microsoft's NTFS format. That's not needed. The installers (of FreeBSD and of PC-BSD) can remove existing partitions in an early step. > Also, for the 9.1 branch, I read that I have to run: > > # /usr/sbin/pkg > To bootstrap the system. I also need to place: > WITH_PKGNG= yes > in the /etc/rc.conf file. The above option doesn't look as if it belongs to /etc/rc.conf. Instead it would probably go to /etc/make.conf. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 14:26:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB4077D; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA86E7E; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:25:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from odyssey.starpoint.kiev.ua (alpha-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.101]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id QAA01520; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:25:57 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <51068A75.5000404@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:25:57 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130113 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Lehmann Subject: Re: OSS and ALSA References: <50FD4E38.5040305@freebsd.org> <50FD6649.5040509@freebsd.org> <20130121172321.Horde.Ai_h1kd4LLQ_nfhnMFr-qQ1@avocado.salatschuessel.net> <50FD8512.5050609@gmail.com> <20130123221537.Horde.8LiRA0mL-VI5d-S-VYpm5Q8@avocado.salatschuessel.net> In-Reply-To: <20130123221537.Horde.8LiRA0mL-VI5d-S-VYpm5Q8@avocado.salatschuessel.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD multi , FreeBSD quest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:26:00 -0000 on 23/01/2013 23:15 Oliver Lehmann said the following: > I noticed, that the OSS4 plugin also workes without the oss4 dependency. > Can someone please try this as well? > > - deinstall audacious-plugins > - deinstall oss4 > - change audacious-plugins/Makefile and comment out the oss4 BUILD_DEPENDENCY > - install audacious-plugins > - start audacious > > for me it works... please some more "tests". This is a late answer, but yes, it does work. Thank you! -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 14:37:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A10D14 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:37:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED11AFE3 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:37:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-191.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.191]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712CE3CEF7; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:37:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0SEbPZJ002939; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:37:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:37:25 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD Message-Id: <20130128153725.29761e8e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130128105121.0df78676@X220.ovitrap.com> References: <20130125133346.f1484ed8.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125150414.f262d162.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125161215.f498f4e4.freebsd@edvax.de> <5102FE7B.4070808@gmail.com> <20130127153838.15b97613@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130127135806.4d19e997.freebsd@edvax.de> <1359333396.2513.10.camel@q> <20130128105121.0df78676@X220.ovitrap.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Ralf Mardorf , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:37:26 -0000 On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:51:21 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:36:36 +0100 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 13:58 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > > # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your > > > source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' > > > # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is > > > GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel > > > KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # [steps > > > 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] # 5. > > > `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader > > > prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' > > > # 8. `make delete-old' > > > # 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -i, along with > > > -U or -F). # 10. `reboot' > > > # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses > > > them anymore) > > > > > > What source tree? I only checked out the kernel source using svn and > > yeah, what source tree? It seems that you do not have one. It's rather untypical to check out _only_ kernel sources without the "top level" content. The tree will probably be complete, but if it hasn't been used yet to create world (and kernel), the /usr/obj "cache" will be empty, so no "quick" re-installation for modified binaries (modified in permissions, not in context). > > # freebsd-update -r 9.1-RELEASE upgrade > > This is very much a binary upgrade. You might have a source tree for > 8.3 which is not very helpful now. Except freebsd-update also updates the src/ subtree, usually if the default "Components src world kernel" is kept. So it will probably be the corresponding RELEASE tree. > I do not know if this program is able to fix your problem. Probably not, except by a "binary update to the same version" which can be considered a re-install. > > I wanted to run it tonight, but since I don't know where my source > > tree is, I can't continue. > > I think that you simply do not have one. At least not a current one. > Read the handbook how you can get the source tree and then download and > compile it. > > I believe that all other options will end in a re-installation. If this is also to be considered for installed ports, that will probably be the easiest solution. On the other hand, if the amount of work is justified, tracking down the individual defective permissions and manually fixing them could be an option not to go that way, as it will definitely take some time. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 14:57:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AF94F7 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:57:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out04.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out04.alice-dsl.net [88.44.63.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24BD12B for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:57:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.61]) by smtp-out04.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:53:38 +0100 Received: from freebsd ([85.182.25.166]) by out.alice-dsl.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:53:26 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:53:25 +0100 Subject: Usage of "restore" To: "FreeBSD quest" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2013 14:53:26.0517 (UTC) FILETIME=[3A4C9A50:01CDFD67] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:57:04 -0000 Hi :) I don't understand how to use the restore command. root@freebsd:/mnt/dump # restore -v -t dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130123_193142-usr_f.dump Verify tape and initialize maps /dev/sa0: No such file or directory root@freebsd:/mnt/dump # restore -v -t -f dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130123_193142-usr_f.dump Verify tape and initialize maps Tape block size is 32 Tape is not a dump tape FWIW the dump files are on a ext3 fs. I know that I don't need to backup /tmp. The backups were done by this script, perhaps I've done something wrong: root@freebsd:/mnt/dump # cat /root/dump.sh #! /bin/bash # bash dump.sh dumpstart=$(date "+%Y%m%d_%H%M%S") dump_path="/mnt/dump/dump-$(uname -r)-$dumpstart" rootdir_a="/dev/ad4s1a" usr_dir_f="/dev/ad4s1f" var_dir_d="/dev/ad4s1d" tmp_dir_e="/dev/ad4s1e" #mkdir $dump_path dump -0Launf - $rootdir_a | bzip2 > "$dump_path-roota.dump" dump -0Launf - $usr_dir_f | bzip2 > "$dump_path-usr_f.dump" dump -0Launf - $var_dir_d | bzip2 > "$dump_path-var_d.dump" dump -0Launf - $tmp_dir_e | bzip2 > "$dump_path-tmp_e.dump" echo "Started: $dumpstart" echo " Done: $(date "+%Y%m%d_%H%M%S")" exit 0 root@freebsd:/mnt/dump # grep dump /etc/fstab /dev/ada0s8 /mnt/dump ext2fs rw 0 0 root@freebsd:/mnt/dump # ls .Trash-1000 dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130123_193142-tmp_e.dump dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130120_114824-roota.dump dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130123_193142-usr_f.dump dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130120_114824-tmp_e.dump dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130123_193142-var_d.dump dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130120_114824-usr_f.dump dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130126_162902-roota.dump dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130120_114824-var_d.dump dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130126_162902-tmp_e.dump dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130122_053545-roota.dump dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130126_162902-usr_f.dump dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130122_053545-tmp_e.dump dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130126_162902-var_d.dump dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130122_053545-usr_f.dump evolution-backup-20130120.tar.gz dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130122_053545-var_d.dump evolution-backup-20130122.tar.gz dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130123_193142-roota.dump Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 14:58:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81EEF596 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:58:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm25-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm25-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.109.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A0DE2140 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.232] by nm25.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 14:58:06 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.66] by tm13.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 14:58:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp103.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 14:58:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359385086; bh=DzlO4C+orQ8WNphzjb6PYnamIV6SjxzfhbaDnjxQ+7Y=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=akT4jszoyx4q8MyN74Z0s9NLid46imTccjELnZiqiv3BQQrMEGC9dvjWF77O9lGzxb1M2c2dwlV8j71nrk8N07tgxIcp8qixj5Mny59oAgCjApgQoxuQwj/76NDArWAfJ04TfMyL63IYxJ5RJnWSfjFc18jmOGhUErbXkCWe7r0= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 468540.92798.bm@smtp103.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 5RWMxj8VM1nnGjYRJb8lb2vW4XDykLiW8ZocdXeWz_XYiKW DXwf7EES6du11.CcqpSZ.IuMW.2vXXcue9wSckojTd.Xh52ArUmpzMdKZwnT xlb2xrvorSE2SenIadOHbgaN.gMYEl1xWb33h7ykfK5DFNg6_eJaxvnh4hvH AYTMlkOKrVdCoRW2HrHl39xn0Bjzfa8AkK1rpkKQrg3GVy6jhjaUxytwO9PK tUwsf3bqzM5Fc0rgzrn8AEqe.ci7MXqJVbJFWC2Fwa8autwdQl1zDlDBQAPv tKULm4QC2obRffuWjgUeqHNF9DmDrI6aoA._3UGUyTGZDTqehnTJwJMfj_Ba m88Bd8prtSZurBq5l_uUWgBc1QfjFzi1amJp4FvPcGVCpRcEbog6rwFgTMn0 DSCUugKQCZyKt5AHZCEhcpB8yI1TuMbrE687Wad3lwUZ8 X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@85.182.25.166 with login) by smtp103.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2013 14:58:06 +0000 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Erich Dollansky" , Polytropon Subject: Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD References: <20130125133346.f1484ed8.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125150414.f262d162.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125161215.f498f4e4.freebsd@edvax.de> <5102FE7B.4070808@gmail.com> <20130127153838.15b97613@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130127135806.4d19e997.freebsd@edvax.de> <1359333396.2513.10.camel@q> <20130128105121.0df78676@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130128153725.29761e8e.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:58:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20130128153725.29761e8e.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:58:09 -0000 On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:37:25 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > It's rather untypical to check out _only_ kernel sources without > the "top level" content. For the update from 8.x to 9.1 I even didn't check out the kernel source, this is something I did much later ;). I simply followed the FreeBSD instructions. Perhaps it were binaries, but anyway, IIRC a kernel was compiled?!? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 15:39:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD916C6 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:39:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E56A3D8 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:39:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0SFdQob017421; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:39:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r0SFdQsf017418; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:39:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:39:26 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Subject: Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice? In-Reply-To: <20130128070324.08bc4d67f570835d75d90497@sohara.org> Message-ID: References: <5105BEE4.4030402@mansionfamily.plus.com> <5105D611.4000506@ShaneWare.Biz> <20130128070324.08bc4d67f570835d75d90497@sohara.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:39:26 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:39:28 -0000 On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > There's one other good reason to use partitions when mirroring. > When the time comes to replace a drive in a mirror it is necessary that the > new drive be the same size (or larger) than the one it replaces. Given that > drives of nominally the same capacity (and even of the same type and brand > bought at different times) tend not to be exactly the same size using a > partition a little smaller than the whole drive makes it certain that a > replacement drive will be big enough to use in the mirror when it arrives. The claim is that newer versions of ZFS leave some unused space at the end of the drive to allow for slightly different nominal sizes. I have not yet found any references to what versions or how much space. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 15:41:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38263790 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:41:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F051D400 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:41:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0SFfAPk017460; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:41:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r0SFfA7Y017457; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:41:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:41:10 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: creating bootable disk with gpart In-Reply-To: <20130128184407.70a03e5a@X220.ovitrap.com> Message-ID: References: <20130128184407.70a03e5a@X220.ovitrap.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:41:11 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:41:14 -0000 On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > I followed http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html to > create bootable disks with GPT. > > As you know from my former post, I tried to boot via USB from a GPT > disk and failed. I inserted the disk into the notebook and bootin also > failed. > > Irony is that inserting the MBR disk into the USB case results also in > a failure but much later. What failure? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 15:43:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E90844 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:43:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2390E634 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:43:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout08 with smtp id tTg01k006516WCc01Tg1vT; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:40:01 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=b6RsFK6x c=1 sm=1 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=Fu_n5yJQHbEA:10 a=j0gpCgQY3GwA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=bbgJIgh7pcAA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=ep_KMAzDAAAA:8 a=BLxBQU5_EtGiPlZl6N0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=Zj88AOotu0hmiUHAzvgA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=t2OUVH-J5-YO7C_s:21 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1TzqoR-00039g-Ky; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:40:00 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:39:58 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.8.4; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201301281539.58864.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Subject: Re: Starting with ZFS on fresh install X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: Carmel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:43:11 -0000 On Monday 28 Jan 2013 12:55:06 Carmel wrote: > I have a spare amd64 PC that I want to install FreeBSD 9.x on. I want > it to utilize ZFS right from the start. There are two HD's in the PC. > One will handle the "/var" partition and the other everything else. If you're going to be using ZFS then you'll probably be better off not having separate partitions and letting ZFS manage space allocation if you want to limit the size of /var or any other part of the system, You can install everything on a single disk to start with. Afterwards you can dynamically increase the size of the pool if you need more space by using the "zpool add" command to add the second drive into the storage pool. Alternatively if you have enough space and the second drive is at least as large as the first you can make your system more resilient by using it to create a mirrored pool with "zpool attach". It's well worth doing some initial reading about ZFS before you start so you have a good idea of how to make the best use of it, these links could be a good starting point: * the FreeBSD ZFS wiki - https://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFS * Oracle's ZFS Administration Guide - http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/download/Community+Group+zfs/docs/zfsadmin.pdf -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 15:44:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143B390E for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:44:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1F9661 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:44:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0SFiSuI017512; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:44:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r0SFiSfd017509; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:44:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:44:28 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Carmel Subject: Re: Starting with ZFS on fresh install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:44:28 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:44:29 -0000 On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Carmel wrote: > I have a spare amd64 PC that I want to install FreeBSD 9.x on. I want > it to utilize ZFS right from the start. There are two HD's in the PC. > One will handle the "/var" partition and the other everything else. The > last FBSD installer I used was on the 7.x branch. Does the new > installer in the 9.x branch handle that automatically? As Polytropon mentioned, the PC-BSD installer can do this. > Would it be advantageous to run something like FreeDOS to remove the > existing partition information, etcetera and then reformat the dives? > They are currently formatted in Microsoft's NTFS format. No, that should not be necessary. > Also, for the 9.1 branch, I read that I have to run: > > # /usr/sbin/pkg > To bootstrap the system. I also need to place: > WITH_PKGNG= yes > in the /etc/rc.conf file. No, this is not required. The only reason to do it is if you *want* to switch to pkgng. The old package tools still work, and you can switch at a later time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 15:50:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91BDFED for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE88072E for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:50:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0SFoa5A017600; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:50:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r0SFoaGf017597; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:50:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:50:36 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Ralf Mardorf Subject: Re: Usage of "restore" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:50:36 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD quest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:50:40 -0000 On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I don't understand how to use the restore command. > > root@freebsd:/mnt/dump # restore -v -t dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130123_193142-usr_f.dump > Verify tape and initialize maps > /dev/sa0: No such file or directory sa0 is the tape device, used by default if -f is not specified. > root@freebsd:/mnt/dump # restore -v -t -f dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130123_193142-usr_f.dump That is the right way to list the contents. > Verify tape and initialize maps > Tape block size is 32 > Tape is not a dump tape Except... > dump -0Launf - $rootdir_a | bzip2 > "$dump_path-roota.dump" The files that are called dump files are actually compressed with bzip2. So they need to be uncompressed. It would be good to change the backup script to name the files ".dump.bz2" or something similar. Untested, but overconfidently: # bzcat dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130123_193142-usr_f.dump | restore -v -t -f - For reference: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 15:54:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D414E19A for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:54:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922E5759 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-191.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.191]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7943CFFE; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:54:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0SFsTnq003126; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:54:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:54:29 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Ralf Mardorf" Subject: Re: Usage of "restore" Message-Id: <20130128165429.c5368afe.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD quest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:54:28 -0000 On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:53:25 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi :) > > I don't understand how to use the restore command. The answer is in "man restore". :-) > root@freebsd:/mnt/dump # restore -v -t > dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130123_193142-usr_f.dump > Verify tape and initialize maps > /dev/sa0: No such file or directory Correct. The program defaults to a tape drive /dev/sa0 to read dumps from. You need to specify -f if you want to read from a file instead. Also: Note that restore will usually restore the files in the current (!) directory, so you need to cd to where you want to extract the dump to. > root@freebsd:/mnt/dump # restore -v -t -f > dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130123_193142-usr_f.dump > Verify tape and initialize maps > Tape block size is 32 > Tape is not a dump tape Did you create the dump in some non-default format? > FWIW the dump files are on a ext3 fs. I know that I don't need to backup > /tmp. It shouldn't matter what filesystem the dump files are stored on. It's just important they are in the correct format. > The backups were done by this script, perhaps I've done something wrong: > > root@freebsd:/mnt/dump # cat /root/dump.sh > #! /bin/bash Ern... two things: Do you _really_ have /bin/bash on FreeBSD? I know this is possible. And do you use any bash-specific features in your script? If not, why not use /bin/sh, the "universally" accepted standard? :-) > # bash dump.sh > > dumpstart=$(date "+%Y%m%d_%H%M%S") > dump_path="/mnt/dump/dump-$(uname -r)-$dumpstart" > rootdir_a="/dev/ad4s1a" > usr_dir_f="/dev/ad4s1f" > var_dir_d="/dev/ad4s1d" > tmp_dir_e="/dev/ad4s1e" > > #mkdir $dump_path > dump -0Launf - $rootdir_a | bzip2 > "$dump_path-roota.dump" > dump -0Launf - $usr_dir_f | bzip2 > "$dump_path-usr_f.dump" > dump -0Launf - $var_dir_d | bzip2 > "$dump_path-var_d.dump" > dump -0Launf - $tmp_dir_e | bzip2 > "$dump_path-tmp_e.dump" > echo "Started: $dumpstart" > echo " Done: $(date "+%Y%m%d_%H%M%S")" > > exit 0 Looks correct, but read carefully: > dump -0Launf - $usr_dir_f | bzip2 > "$dump_path-usr_f.dump" Now compare again: restore -v -t -f dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130123_193142-usr_f.dump Do you notice bzip is involved in the creation step, but not in the reading step? You need to apply uncompression first so that restore will have data in .dump format (instead of .dump.bz2 which it obviously cannot understand). Verify: file dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130123_193142-usr_f.dump So using proper file extensions can prevent confusion. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 15:56:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A997A3CA for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:56:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED93798 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:56:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-191.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.191]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B47E83CFEF; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:56:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0SFu9e1003144; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:56:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:56:09 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Ralf Mardorf" Subject: Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD Message-Id: <20130128165609.1915e7a1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20130125133346.f1484ed8.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125150414.f262d162.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130125161215.f498f4e4.freebsd@edvax.de> <5102FE7B.4070808@gmail.com> <20130127153838.15b97613@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130127135806.4d19e997.freebsd@edvax.de> <1359333396.2513.10.camel@q> <20130128105121.0df78676@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130128153725.29761e8e.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Erich Dollansky , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:56:07 -0000 On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:58:05 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:37:25 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > It's rather untypical to check out _only_ kernel sources without > > the "top level" content. > > For the update from 8.x to 9.1 I even didn't check out the kernel source, > this is something I did much later ;). I simply followed the FreeBSD > instructions. Perhaps it were binaries, but anyway, IIRC a kernel was > compiled?!? That would require kernel sources (and some of the "top level" files). Probably only a binary kernel update has been performed because that's the purpose of freebsd-update (versus installing from source). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 15:56:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0087F4A2 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:56:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7A679C for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:56:13 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=z8+knd5InGgYwSLQ0JmgEnwwgweVBYe+HHE5W9Yk66I=; b=ZUGK3/MaVpKB3JyO9+bparsJHqS/+G9G8hWjAXgoJaA9dY6v93yj0XPLyPcCVAM02iSmi9rCzUO4twPtuw944YoFBR63CAa08eRfdP9R3NekaaRq2bghMbe4Blpzd/+7; Received: from [122.129.203.50] (port=47774 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Tzr48-003zW4-H1; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:56:13 -0700 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:56:08 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Warren Block Subject: Re: creating bootable disk with gpart Message-ID: <20130128225608.58668666@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20130128184407.70a03e5a@X220.ovitrap.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:56:14 -0000 Hi, On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:41:10 -0700 (MST) Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I followed http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html > > to create bootable disks with GPT. > > > > As you know from my former post, I tried to boot via USB from a GPT > > disk and failed. I inserted the disk into the notebook and bootin > > also failed. > > > > Irony is that inserting the MBR disk into the USB case results also > > in a failure but much later. > > What failure? 'GEOM_PART integrity check failed (da0 MBR)' It is obviously not a problem with the disk as the disk worked again after being put back into the notebook. I did another test with a fresh FreeBSD 9.0 installation on an USB disk. It is the same story. The loader is not found and the system does not boot. It seems to me that my notebook is not able to boot on the combination out of USB and GPT. I will do later some more testing. It all would work for me if the machine boots with MBR. The only thing which irritates me is the fact that it started last year from the GPT formatted disk in the USB case. Of course, it also started from this disk when it was in the notebook. It still could be that I have overwritten something which comes after the loader but I cannot imagine that I have changed the loader by chance. But - as we all know - things happen. Erich > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 16:10:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FD6C4A for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:10:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@kraus-haus.org) Received: from mail-vb0-f49.google.com (mail-vb0-f49.google.com [209.85.212.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952E48B2 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:10:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f49.google.com with SMTP id s24so1956535vbi.36 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:10:07 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=OsePvz6yU+lc1QNEc95bleQ5WTGb3DzZBimIx5ElYfk=; b=nm9SUsbc+RKslfikyDqa2FqDtsX2XtlU7iJMoF3izbnyskzr8zxWk8ao1psKGTmn7p Xn/mWYYOpxrH2ZRgZlomMO5jSfHwZX2s+cU/5wOuxtvKRpwmj8VcTAQVrnKlNmtVPy4S QoVVNFzlga8YrT3VRAsyme7P8RsXXMWq2t2hMY4elCqBpI6tFbQbJcDtxB5Q8l5m/AbK A/S+7I0Xe/yJ4AwdINAQle91CfdwAWdeQc7mjjJ2eyNnG16DVg+O8ryaVr9gUNzBbvLM 81rSTzfnDO6qjcCcjIQW8KPJ1HQTCAbKM2De10SFOm7KG3ft4uZAvTeoPlYegqJbtTll Nh0w== X-Received: by 10.52.180.202 with SMTP id dq10mr13435772vdc.129.1359389407484; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:10:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mini1.kraus-haus.org ([96.236.21.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y7sm6526318vdt.14.2013.01.28.08.10.05 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:10:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <5105D611.4000506@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:10:04 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7D460604-8F6B-454F-B717-678F64A75062@kraus-haus.org> References: <5105BEE4.4030402@mansionfamily.plus.com> <5105D611.4000506@ShaneWare.Biz> To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkDcg1Lu9Pe/QGZIuzYFbng+n2jw/eSuLARNMTMA4D2GdsOz/eMFWgW97nmr3s/D36HT66O X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:10:14 -0000 On Jan 27, 2013, at 8:36 PM, Shane Ambler wrote: > I recall reading that using partitions for zfs on FreeBSD was as good = as full disks. For a boot zpool we need to at least have a partition for = the boot-code and one for zfs preventing the use of a full disk. I have been using ZFS with GPT partitions with no issues. I have = NOT compared performance between whole disk and partitioned, which is = where the difference in Solaris arises (ZFS makes better use of the = physical drive's write cache). > ZFS is meant to be compatible between different endian systems (x86 = and sparc) =46rom what I have read and heard it sounds like zpools are = expected be compatible between different OS's as well - as far as zpool = versions are compatible - but I do expect it would depend on the = partition tables being readable - while full disk usage should work I = would also think GPT is compatible. OSX 10.5 (x86 and ppc) included a = read-only zfs kext (before Apple canned the project) so it must have = been able to read Solaris or FreeBSD created zpools which does indicate = a fairly high level of compatibility. The target OS must be able to read the partitioning scheme used. = I am not aware of Solaris / OpenSolaris / Illumos being able to read GPT = partitions, but it has been over 6 months since I played with any of = them. > I believe the way ZFS marks disks/partitions with the zpool data is so = that the zpools can be recognised between systems and controllers - it = would be interesting to know if and under what conditions a zpool can be = accessed, both between different FreeBSD machines as well as the = possibility of reading on a Solaris/Indiana machine. Anyone have the = resources to test? When you give ZFS the whole disk, it writes an EFI-like label on = the drive and makes us of one partition for the ZFS data. So there *is* = a form of partitioning at the lower most layer, it is just *not* user = managed partitioning. -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 16:22:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1006AF3F for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:22:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@kraus-haus.org) Received: from mail-ve0-f177.google.com (mail-ve0-f177.google.com [209.85.128.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B043D979 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:22:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f177.google.com with SMTP id m1so1445491ves.36 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:22:34 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=XLGo5YtjZkdT1/Beumdq2013BOX6Zrj4RqKur3AdXwI=; b=aMTQ5paTL7JOwRZOrNvlbKw2J9i6mc5NCGJBluvcfj+kqOCnbWu67YClZIhEL4ftig 7rv7Q+Ma1yWnh/lw47cchqlN+HVx32UZ+TqjXdppr3yJiLc9oI/DV/ZbD8CKnXprEWtH nSkCn9yl/pIqf/ZJ0/EyyNTNXAPReGHXaS7KxCUn6l0zH2I87oy3StidKGRVHbIyTIIe 93scLiyduBRuSdUu2rkOMReR84fpUooBtTnWn0D+JWTBxy6U8H2KtoC+RwDhEcaXMqUy dYzWPO5ZEK6mHlUhYap0TWqybTniMiUnpIfixgrnW2/7U0B0PRqRSOcKpNgE3BLWWgH7 H+Ag== X-Received: by 10.220.39.69 with SMTP id f5mr15522357vce.45.1359390154043; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:22:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mini1.kraus-haus.org ([96.236.21.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g5sm6480193vez.6.2013.01.28.08.22.32 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:22:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Starting with ZFS on fresh install Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <201301281539.58864.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:22:30 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4982641D-5691-4CF3-8385-6A836E4AC2A3@kraus-haus.org> References: <201301281539.58864.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnJ/9p3JCLCyS+lQ61jv1Xd9XQNXSy3p6gyjaXgKIyl6RhTDmu4Ba+r9ehOQm1fkGOBSxsX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:22:41 -0000 On Jan 28, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Mike Clarke wrote: > If you're going to be using ZFS then you'll probably be better off not = having=20 > separate partitions and letting ZFS manage space allocation if you = want to=20 > limit the size of /var or any other part of the system, You can manage space within a ZFS pool, regardless of whether you give = the zpool whole disks or a partition. rootpool 6.13G 56.4G 31K none rootpool/do-not-remove 31K 1024M 31K none rootpool/root 5.01G 56.4G 5.01G / rootpool/tmp 60.5K 56.4G 60.5K /tmp rootpool/var 111M 56.4G 111M /var Shows a system with a rootpool and within the rootpool three separate = fielsyetms: / (root) /var /tmp You can control space usage with the zfs quota property. Note the rootpool/do-not-remove daatset. This has a quota and = reservation of 1 GB. It's purpose is to permit recovery in case the = zpool is accidentally filled. ZFS requires *some* free space top process = file / directory remove operations. If the zpool is completely filled = you will NOT be able to remove anything to free up space. By having a = dataset with a quota and reservation of 1 GB, that space is already = marked as used so it will not be allocated. If the remainder of the = zpool fills, then you can quiet the system (so running processes don't = steal the space you are about to free up), change the quota / = reservation (I like going down to 512 MB), and then remove some files / = directories to free up space.=20 Note that the zpool itself (rootpool) is NOT used as a dataset and is = NOT mounted. My experience with ZFS under Solaris taught me that while = you *can* use that dataset, if you have any child datasets (and any = other datasets created will, by definition, be children of the rootpool) = you will end up with hierarchical datasets. This means that future = operations on datasets will have to take place in very specific order = (such as mounting and un mounting). By avoiding hierarchical datasets = (that are actually used) you avoid that complexity. -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 16:28:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26D1C1 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:28:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm14-vm1.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm14-vm1.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 10DD99B7 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.57] by nm14.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 16:28:11 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.66] by tm10.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 16:28:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp103.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 16:28:11 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359390491; bh=g4VB8sxxljmjM9nq4Wz/5cttPNuWuIpUiw2FVB2NHZ4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=fU07hZCyNYqKAVuUAvSxp27k5K/xiMu748LD3vQM27YWslUsqOpCYlp4mHqw3NIC5zN2f9dB3puxdWOzxqpH7C+fpx25sEta2ELyFu1Mp2Jpa5/FekRlrZ0cykH8zDdxuhm2B5zSYXaJbosEdDNEFrupdII1cViLgpSW59TxkAs= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 13201.92808.bm@smtp103.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-YMail-OSG: .XBOgqAVM1nomSLaAcMEe0CBPXl0Ow5P1ORAmyALcPEIqt1 7oUP8ZOaZO.r2dLGY3gUbYzaVSwAImsliqeFMqrqIe_NNHJtWpbaGRTLMSAN K7LT.1eocviqfkiDoASPByQFlC1ylMRUDcGPQZ_1jEx3RQVY.TClHhzHh_B2 WRUzLcBPALBVaQ0GBakG4joctvhD1Vl2gLCkxo.NvVJT7Rw1_HMkCw06hBIw QX1nxU8Szk58FihyaQTwLihpNEWez8faYdPvr2R5dZPjgXtaHqKC_PAAZFyz GLfxhM19Pno4Y2Rva1Cc8YNqRLIb9Aw3cZYTTlGbUzGWAXLu4mPVUH7bdIlw osJJrrAS2QyEKPrI1358PcaJSGQlwsSjuDbjA9c5_WTXVHTCbuFUsvJPof52 YdV.aeohTl6sTzZQnoxq1yZgXxMO3VNpaEudeJ6E6k7KfNzLCCNkYN2hS1jO fTvkGgA7B9WcsJsSAUy9G3xrpt8Q- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@85.182.25.166 with login) by smtp103.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2013 16:28:10 +0000 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Usage of "restore" References: <20130128165429.c5368afe.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:28:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20130128165429.c5368afe.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) Cc: FreeBSD quest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:28:14 -0000 On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:54:29 +0100, Polytropon wrote:= > The answer is in "man restore". :-) No it isn't ;). I did read it. This was a Wald'n'B=C3=A4ume situation. Even if I would have add a .bz2,= I would have missed it, since on Linux I .tar.bz backups and it's more automated to extract a .tar.foo. However, I should add .bz2 in the futur= e. > Ern... two things: Do you _really_ have /bin/bash on FreeBSD? > I know this is possible. > > And do you use any bash-specific features in your script? If > not, why not use /bin/sh, the "universally" accepted standard? :-) No /bin/bash, # ls /usr/local/bin/bash /usr/local/bin/bash I run "bash file" instead of "sh file", IIRC I already had an issue when= = writing a script and running "sh file". I use it, since I use it on Linux too, another shell might cause issues,= = if I continue writing this script or if I should write another script. = Btw. I was an Assembler coder in the 80s and don't have much knowledge h= ow = to write shell scripts, if I need something I search for it. I'm using = *NIX as OS for audio productions and for the Internet, I'm not intereste= d = in programming anymore, I only do what's needed, *NIX OS are a tool for = = me. Philosophy about POSIX isn't a religion for me. I thought /bin/sh is a link to another shell. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 16:38:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B9D254 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:38:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E404A38 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:38:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-191.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.191]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA1A3CF3D; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:38:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0SGcwcl003272; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:38:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:38:58 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Ralf Mardorf" Subject: Re: Usage of "restore" Message-Id: <20130128173858.a39a3305.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20130128165429.c5368afe.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD quest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:38:56 -0000 On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:28:10 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:54:29 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > The answer is in "man restore". :-) >=20 > No it isn't ;). I did read it. E=E1u c=F2ntrair! :-) -f file Write the backup to file; file may be a special device file li= ke /dev/sa0 (a tape drive), /dev/fd1 (a floppy disk drive), an or= di- nary file, or `-' (the standard output). Multiple file names = may be given as a single argument separated by commas. Each file will be used for one dump volume in the order listed; if the d= ump requires more volumes than the number of names given, the last file name will used for all remaining volumes after prompting = for media changes. If the name of the file is of the form ``host:file'', or ``user@host:file'', dump writes to the named file on the remote host using rmt(8). The default path name of the remote rmt(8) program is /etc/rmt; this can be overridden = by the environment variable RMT. You could even set $TAPE to the file name and omit -f. :-) > This was a Wald'n'B=E4ume situation. That's possible. > Even if I would have add a .bz2, I > would have missed it, since on Linux I .tar.bz backups and it's more > automated to extract a .tar.foo. But .tar.bz !=3D .dump and !=3D dump.bz (different programs: tar and dump are working differently). > However, I should add .bz2 in the future. At least this is a comfortable way to avoid confusion and know file content by simply looking at its name. > > Ern... two things: Do you _really_ have /bin/bash on FreeBSD? > > I know this is possible. > > > > And do you use any bash-specific features in your script? If > > not, why not use /bin/sh, the "universally" accepted standard? :-) >=20 > No /bin/bash, >=20 > # ls /usr/local/bin/bash > /usr/local/bin/bash >=20 > I run "bash file" instead of "sh file", IIRC I already had an issue when = =20 > writing a script and running "sh file". Okay, that is a fully valid solution, in that case #!/bin/bash is ignored. But just think about a "typical" worst case scenario: You have a script that requires bash, and you need to apply it it SUM with /usr unmounted, and you accidentally do not have a statically linked /bin/bash. Wouldn't it be much more convenient to rely on the /bin/sh default scripting shell? Maybe if you review your script, you can find out what bash-ism is employed and turn it into a valid sh equivalent while keeping the intended functionality. At a first glance, I don't see anything sh can't do. > I use it, since I use it on Linux too, another shell might cause issues, = =20 > if I continue writing this script or if I should write another script. =20 Interoperability for scripting is hard in regards of Linux, where sh isn't bash, and sometimes bash isn't bash either. :-) > I thought /bin/sh is a link to another shell. Sometimes it is. Sometimes not. -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 115348 2011-08-21 20:23:20 /bin/sh* On FreeBSD, /bin/sh is technically ash ("This code is derived from software contributed to Berkeley by Kenneth Almquist.", see /usr/src/bin/sh/main.c), a replacement for the traditional Bourne shell whose name it inherits. It's a real binary, not a link. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 16:46:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885D1448 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:46:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm19.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm19.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D6387ABC for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:46:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.54] by nm19.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 16:46:20 -0000 Received: from [217.146.189.110] by tm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 16:46:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp126.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 16:46:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359391580; bh=mEaXtqehc+wOAh30Bk4a+I41lVyKt6/Yr+KT5N9aDcs=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=BFlYKeeh0HgPcUtbVxPSpYb3P9Tofbg4C5hUnF9Owp6G8Rbd5THXh3hd1n40E2UOUKAZ0g6iEtqqRwvJ41vuLKENcz01r87Cm+Kjasov13hv1JWw+DYRY9czTIfvCXL+6LaBkE3EaL9WnTGPdTcMDUKah5C62iku4ddjO02Uq0M= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 47677.83289.bm@smtp126.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 1LEC5iEVM1mR4susQVwHnZ4c2FuBkR_MnF7wSp9fZag4zjf MbQJqinIAGwnp.Lu4Jv9yBRzJXE4t37eQR_zKCnifgYfPbtbZzLbgvOMq_PN J3noTMTgHs_UU.kT4RqsGQPxuHSygEaBkuJMRiJeCGUDYgZezXuckduZz79o mQh3kmn85DpqziA2XUm0BClOsewtzzKdCJSusna8AnpeV4Dbj_1bvtdDc1EU ag5PwF8oqixpTVHC1nlh0If9_FbPNSJISGbAjTq0dj240OHPgTAk.RUyrx3F 8jFwyjx.BVAMh8xSj3MKtasjnNsLFmSm_seAvgSWdi2GfmPPtwRB.1fudCmy tjUiKfzsiDdZkn10cl750EQsW547XmaxJgJfWjQYOx3mCQYyMOL636nB2LzX UTkBfVIMl2.TjDewCV8jgrxE6zzVK8LBEYRTMYscm7Kk- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@85.182.25.166 with login) by smtp126.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2013 08:46:20 -0800 PST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "FreeBSD quest" Subject: Re: Usage of "restore" References: <20130128165429.c5368afe.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130128173858.a39a3305.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:46:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20130128173858.a39a3305.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:46:24 -0000 Another issue. # bunzip2 < dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130123_193142-usr_f.dump | restore -t -f - does work, but the output doesn't show the owner and I want to get some output I can use with mtree, to fix a broken owner for some files. Regards, Ralf PS: "man restore" doesn't tell me, that I missed to extract the compressed archive ;). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 17:22:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0F2D9A for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out04.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out04.alice-dsl.net [88.44.63.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B578DC0 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:22:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.60]) by smtp-out04.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:18:10 +0100 Received: from freebsd ([85.182.25.166]) by out.alice-dsl.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:18:05 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:18:05 +0100 To: "FreeBSD quest" Subject: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2013 17:18:05.0502 (UTC) FILETIME=[6F609DE0:01CDFD7B] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:22:58 -0000 Hi :) I hope it's ok, when I open a new thread for this issue. First I need to know what files have a bad owner. I'm running # freebsd-update IDS >> outfile_28Jan2013.ids perhaps this will give some useful output, regarding to a wrong owner for files from world. It's still running. I still have no idea how to check this for the files build from ports. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 17:27:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B62FAB for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026E7DF7 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:27:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-191.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.191]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA0033377; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:27:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0SHRQ9e003492; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:27:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:27:26 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Ralf Mardorf" Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? Message-Id: <20130128182726.42db0712.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD quest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:27:26 -0000 On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:18:05 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I still have no idea how to check this for the files build from ports. Are there _many_ on the list (rocketmouse:* in /usr/local)? If not: A simple reinstallation of that port would be sufficient, except you can easily spot the installation permissions from the port's Makefile (in that case: do it manually). The "find | grep" solution you're already using is sufficient for checking. For correcting... it depends. In ultra-worst case, re-install _all_ ports (portmaster -af plus options to avoid undesired interactivity). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 20:36:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB94C02 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:36:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BC719E7 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:36:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.51] by nm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 20:36:55 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.5] by tm4.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 20:36:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp198.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 20:36:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359405415; bh=ynh9k//TnBlqBxsjJTuApBrp3n8nbPFdJq1ET/TmvuE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=vLVI+5+bYCU4QORc6JbnWzd7pOga89+hnaZHXirN1dD/seDqKCHhAVctfo7jfow4IQqCpvIhOek2w5jOd2fvIqOIzhUNH+ZrgQ3lkkUm9EVlQN0swLoCmh7NxRxCs3gj12ZWV8vH8VltKNCt7r0+DbjKCi+LFb9jkWqFiuJ12XI= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 64294.32614.bm@smtp198.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: YfjtC6AVM1mY2rpxU2ziwiyZxjkJDQkMK_qt6EEKGsBQwK7 Uu30xEbTafE3XXsyP9gAmgcow0S33BWtnVqV7A1SvnW9Zm8Yn_kiYWfYxZ2Z JheRyuqT6KMKyOufozFtLJ5RCMx9t59sp2TtLwXHPQ0cXV_pbqWver4Ji2FD FNKC1voB07i3OVu.ibJZw_xL_hM0iT4ekVyir16vVntBuylLCy2ORrVdaiqS WqQW1fwKsobv4jKvSH.Xg9D1YuvcUjc.S89dbuA3NDwyN_Cc6PSIvPy6SBOw 1zikDz0Tyc1ooC17EdZ8jHn08w_7DrBCp2zF7niIu3be.BM0vqfd2lPmspRK yHiSzEf0zkDYcMj_8FGge3L2B68oVsd7sQ6wgYPgj8nB4JlIKzs.Cr5ey8sT PCO67Xkoz3u_cpG0gUZ0y6P2o3XA.A4nlA_AQmERCGtY0 X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from [85.182.20.186] (ralf.mardorf@85.182.20.186 with login) by smtp198.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2013 20:36:54 +0000 UTC Message-ID: <1359405414.2561.29.camel@q> Subject: Suspend caused trouble From: Ralf Mardorf To: FreeBSD Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:36:54 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.0-0ubuntu3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:36:57 -0000 Hi :) today I tried suspend for the first time. While I was off I had an idea, how to fix an issue for my install. When I was home again, I wanted to start FreeBSD, but now I've got an additional problem. It always starts with the GRUB menu and what ever I do, it ends in single user mode, with "Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:" I'm using Xfce, but GNOME is installed too. The display manager is GDM. Until now I didn't read much and I didn't try to switch to the user, after a mount -a and then to start GDM or X. Perhaps this is a known issue. How can I start a Xfce session? Regards, Ralf PS: FWIW, I don't think it's related, but just in case that this made suspend to fail, the other issue is, that some files in /usr that shouldn't be owned by the user, are owned by the user. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 20:50:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A038FD4 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:50:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from corpmail.itlegion.ru (corpmail.itlegion.ru [84.21.226.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D9901A79 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:50:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 4066 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2013 00:44:10 +0400 Received: from localhost-artem.itlegion.ru (HELO ?192.168.0.12?) (192.168.0.12) by 84.21.226.211 with SMTP; 29 Jan 2013 00:44:10 +0400 Message-ID: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:43:45 +0400 From: Artem Kuchin Organization: IT Legion User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Software raid VS hardware raid Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:50:54 -0000 Hello! I have to made a decision on choosing a dedicated server. The problem i see is that while i can find very affordable and good options they do not provide hardware raid or even if they do it is not the best hardware for freebsd. The server base conf is 8core 32gb ram 2.8+ ghz. So, maybe someone has personal experience with both worlds and can tell if it really matters in such configuration if i go for software raid. What are the benefits and what are the negatives of software raid? How much is the performance penalty? I am planning to use mirror configuration of two SATA 7200rpm 2TB disks. Nothing fancy. File system planned is UFS with journaling. Artem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 21:43:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945B7CD4 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:43:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C749E40 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0SLh20L020112; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:43:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r0SLh2xP020109; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:43:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:43:02 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Ralf Mardorf Subject: Re: Suspend caused trouble In-Reply-To: <1359405414.2561.29.camel@q> Message-ID: References: <1359405414.2561.29.camel@q> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:43:02 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:43:03 -0000 On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi :) > > today I tried suspend for the first time. While I was off I had an idea, > how to fix an issue for my install. When I was home again, I wanted to > start FreeBSD, but now I've got an additional problem. > > It always starts with the GRUB menu and what ever I do, it ends in > single user mode, with > > "Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:" > > I'm using Xfce, but GNOME is installed too. The display manager is GDM. > > Until now I didn't read much and I didn't try to switch to the user, > after a mount -a and then to start GDM or X. > > Perhaps this is a known issue. How can I start a Xfce session? Fix the filesystems and boot normally. In single user mode: # fsck -tufs -y # exit From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 22:14:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF8B761 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:14:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE63A4 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:14:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at BSDLabs AB Message-ID: <5106F60E.3060709@intersonic.se> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:05:02 +0100 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121015 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Artem Kuchin Subject: Re: Software raid VS hardware raid References: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> In-Reply-To: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:14:17 -0000 On 01/28/13 21:43, Artem Kuchin wrote: > Hello! > > I have to made a decision on choosing a dedicated server. > The problem i see is that while i can find very affordable and good > options they do not > provide hardware raid or even if they do it is not the best hardware for > freebsd. > The server base conf is 8core 32gb ram 2.8+ ghz. > So, maybe someone has personal experience with both worlds and can tell > if it > really matters in such configuration if i go for software raid. What are > the benefits > and what are the negatives of software raid? How much is the performance > penalty? > I am planning to use mirror configuration of two SATA 7200rpm 2TB disks. > Nothing fancy. > File system planned is UFS with journaling. > I won't delve into detail here but if the data is important HW RAID is where you want to be. Perhaps you could give us a little more details about what the purpose of the server is? Mission-critical or low cost? Those two tends to be mutually exclusive... We are HP-only but have good experience from LSI as well. Just my $0.02. //per From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 22:39:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDF8C0F for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:39:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB23818E for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:39:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nber7.nber.org (nber7.nber.org [66.251.72.41]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r0SMYGCv018910 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:34:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:34:14 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Feenberg To: Per olof Ljungmark Subject: Re: Software raid VS hardware raid In-Reply-To: <5106F60E.3060709@intersonic.se> Message-ID: References: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> <5106F60E.3060709@intersonic.se> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (LRH 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20130128 #9542662, check: 20130128 clean Cc: Artem Kuchin , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:39:54 -0000 On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > On 01/28/13 21:43, Artem Kuchin wrote: >> Hello! >> >> I have to made a decision on choosing a dedicated server. >> The problem i see is that while i can find very affordable and good >> options they do not >> provide hardware raid or even if they do it is not the best hardware for >> freebsd. >> The server base conf is 8core 32gb ram 2.8+ ghz. >> So, maybe someone has personal experience with both worlds and can tell >> if it >> really matters in such configuration if i go for software raid. What are >> the benefits >> and what are the negatives of software raid? How much is the performance >> penalty? >> I am planning to use mirror configuration of two SATA 7200rpm 2TB disks. >> Nothing fancy. >> File system planned is UFS with journaling. >> > > I won't delve into detail here but if the data is important HW RAID is > where you want to be. Perhaps you could give us a little more details A problem with HW RAID is that if the controller breaks, you need to get an identical controller to replace it, or the data will be lost. With software raid, you can read the data on any machine that will boot FreeBSD. That is a great convenience compared to searching eBay for an obsolete controller with the proper rev level. We haven't noticed any speed disadvantage on modern multi-core hardware and RAID 1. The advantages of HW raid escape me - I understand that years ago it provided OS independence and reduced CPU load, but it no longer provides the former, and with 8 cores do you need the latter while waiting for a disk platter to spin? ZFS is worthwhile, too, especially since you have a good amount of memory. That would give you snapshots and some other desirable features, such as background scanning for defects that UFS doesn't have. > about what the purpose of the server is? Mission-critical or low cost? > Those two tends to be mutually exclusive... Surely the presence of SATA drives shows that low cost is essential. Mirroring and ZFS provide very important advantages. HW raid seems to fill a much needed gap (apologies to Brian Kernigan). daniel feenberg > > We are HP-only but have good experience from LSI as well. > > Just my $0.02. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 22:49:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE898D33 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:49:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@kraus-haus.org) Received: from mail-ve0-f177.google.com (mail-ve0-f177.google.com [209.85.128.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E3A1E2 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:49:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f177.google.com with SMTP id m1so1726497ves.22 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:49:18 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=NZzLE7eT3/c3t5t1GqWzEzoQuJL3/4WlhfQ8qIjskn4=; b=QjKYjLfLszBojjvxjHmhw5q+cy6oavjtXJ7VbylFqqEHaiGKfYWPBv1Nvah5uAW3zh jof/9LvWkGeQxyaNlIlHcl1/qrPRMsc8VbS+V5ASOWJQ+6Jy0BsgORYg2NnsnKhSolEQ lyVaPfRUnygqJrnH2GlZ5Yp3ar9/YgDZzcxNZKyol1/7N03jMZdKg0+tv1iuplLUZFxE +Z8+ijEyFMHbvYVpAfQ96FNhIvMZzKFfJIP3OHY64SirfK2OoWeQpmXlQBnLk5NOmT2w wWD+j9WUdpZE2pIOtaOemg1k76r6Pj+7dTjuLd9U/QXA+yEHkHjxe9jYRkPdjFcFEwaU BVCw== X-Received: by 10.52.95.233 with SMTP id dn9mr14602260vdb.88.1359413358522; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:49:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mini1.kraus-haus.org ([96.236.21.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bj15sm7225590vdc.7.2013.01.28.14.49.16 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:49:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Software raid VS hardware raid Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:49:15 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5C5F6EE2-5744-48B8-B4D9-DB9E19A5FCC0@kraus-haus.org> References: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm/AOXgAqquAANCBImr0LyjDUzkd6LYhqUgvRSpKg9RJGfYMBL1/MgvsZTU4jDgedQHeIQq X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:49:20 -0000 On Jan 28, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Artem Kuchin wrote: > I have to made a decision on choosing a dedicated server. > The problem i see is that while i can find very affordable and good = options they do not > provide hardware raid or even if they do it is not the best hardware = for freebsd. I prefer SW RAID, specifically ZFS, for two very large reasons: 1) Visibility: =46rom the OS layer you have very good visibility into = the health of the RAID set and the underlying drives. All of the lower = end HW RAID solutions I have seen require proprietary software to = "manage" the RAID configuration, usually from the physical system's BIOS = layer. Finding good OS layer software to monitor the RAID and the drives = has been very painful. If you don't know you have a failure, then you = can't do anything about it and when you have a second failure you lose = data. Running a HW RAID system and not being able to issue a simple = command from the OS and see the status of the RAID scares me. 2) Error Detection and Correction: HW RAID relies on the drives to = report read and write errors. With UNCORRECTABLE error rates of 10^-14 = and 10^-15 and LARGE (1 TB plus) drives you are almost guaranteed to = statistically run into UNCORRECTABLE errors over the life of a typical = drive. ZFS has end to end checksums and can detect a single bad bit from = a drive, if the set is redundant it can recreate the correct data and = re-write it, effectively correcting the bad data on disk. NOTE: Larger, more expensive HW RAID systems address both of the above = issues, but at a much higher cost in terms of money and management = overhead. DISCLAIMER: I have been managing mission critical, cannot afford to lose = it data under ZFS for over 5 years, with no loss of data (even with some = horribly unreliable low cost HW RAID systems under the ZFS layer... if = we had not used ZFS we would have lost data multiple times). =20 -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 23:08:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E783F2 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:08:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from smtprelay02.ispgateway.de (smtprelay02.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026452D8 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [93.132.119.123] (helo=wombat.mininet) by smtprelay02.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1TzxoR-0004sR-6N for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:08:27 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 24.2.1 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I); VM 8.1.2 under 24.2.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20743.1328.684144.654036@wombat.mininet> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:09:36 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: how do I restart lagg0 properly? From: markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de X-Df-Sender: NDcyNTgy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:08:50 -0000 Hi, I've tried to setup link aggregation to allow networking through WLAN and ethernet on my laptop, see: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2013-January/248605.html (this thread contains my network setup information) The lack of replies may indicate that it is not possible to set up lagg in a way which allows to setup networking either via WLAN or via ethernet, whichever is accessible during boot. In any case I figured that I should be able to bring down networking completely and restart it completely after I plugged in a LAN cable to work around this limitation. I tried things like: service netif restart lagg0 I understand that both routing and DHCP will be affected by temporarily bringing down the network, so I added commands like these in various orders: service routing restart service dhclient restart All in all, to no avail. I can't even ping my DSL router after fiddling with lagg0 after boot. What is the correct incantation of commands to cleanly shut down and restart my networking? thanks, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 23:14:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309CE5B6 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:14:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm25-vm3.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm25-vm3.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.109.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D5AB30F for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:14:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.49] by nm25.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 23:14:23 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.65] by tm2.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 23:14:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 23:14:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359414863; bh=4OsSqj++w9cGwPtL7oDAv/JFUb5XLPpCFpojqmAy7L4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:References:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=tpK/dKdgP7wDug8lIvUBfsZjZKkGgW5g78QKMil/snNNQ4X9owoxqymp1TePLVErVUTvOL0FBI18Jo30Mqewd9G9v3aAAaz3OQUt1YOSb25LTRAVXUX1SkBdKDABOoss7J6jGV0WC/kV27zX2cxcQmXqevVDAbpGn9WjLqF5e0M= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 667501.77397.bm@smtp102.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: iqJMNzcVM1mX_Z2FRKWcyBCuzYsfegXzTOhq7eyyO5XJctb FYSQcAf9xWAzi6yDy4xu06GNOoMm_6A.xyUnTURLgocBCnous8U92yLqXZ3. aIRRTFDcipczEh05Ui_szjytWwzm1Rhh7VK42ICxgT8P6MuqFXy.tgTq5GYO dlX8X_jo9oKFDKl30db81vr9gurs1DZjxxUVJqnjB7BEw4u52rsHL2RikHvQ P2_02ly5WXR0Hk45W3FJaBaEBma4mJ5FhCqGp3xGCEFZ.nA9j.gNO91j8hQu p2Fs09hBNnd0ARdfK6s5.uc6LJ67CqScS7hyQBPP3E1rWh4ll4F2z6OkiT2v QNPs1fFJaN4x0tag9ovQ0nh7bpnK.SDMsos08N1CwRv1zNR3iEF.pommS0cc UlYsZzauFUDRR.JOcoq7uKa25eJjMxgpYEe8TEksSP82Td7OpCIvujR5vYm5 AWK0F7LEvuUk6befxAP8CgexuzDjHRqHuvpG_TTTDwH66NJZne1f0o_RlCnF 8CTQCzgKUoMWtn3Uzato67_M_Xctl X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@92.224.211.22 with login) by smtp102.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2013 23:14:23 +0000 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes References: <1359405414.2561.29.camel@q> <1359410301.2561.50.camel@q> Subject: [solved] Suspend caused trouble Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:14:22 +0100 To: "FreeBSD quest" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1359410301.2561.50.camel@q> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:14:26 -0000 On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 14:43 -0700, Warren Block wrote: > # fsck -tufs -y Thank you, it wasn't that easy, but a hint into the right direction. $ cat /etc/fstab # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass /dev/ad4s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/ad4s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ad4s1e /tmp ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad4s1f /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad4s1d /var ufs rw 2 2 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 #/dev/ada0s8 /mnt/dump ext2fs rw 0 0 #/dev/ada0s9 /mnt/archlinux ext2fs rw 0 0 I uncommented both ext3 file systems (they were not uncommented before ;), restarted and read http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=fsck&sektion=8 : "Only partitions in /etc/fstab that are mounted ``rw'', ``rq'' or ``ro'' and that have non-zero pass number are checked." I set them to /dev/ada0s8 /mnt/dump ext2fs rw 0 2 /dev/ada0s9 /mnt/archlinux ext2fs rw 0 2 but they were still ignored by fsck, so I uncommented them again to finish a startup. A quick research leaded to # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs # make install clean # rehash # fsck.ext3 /dev/* So I switched back to /dev/ada0s8 /mnt/dump ext2fs rw 0 0 /dev/ada0s9 /mnt/archlinux ext2fs rw 0 0 installed e2fsprogs and run # fsck.ext3 /dev/ada0s8 e2fsck 1.42.6 (21-Sep-2012) dump was not cleanly unmounted, check forced. Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes Pass 2: Checking directory structure Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity /lost+found not found. Create? yes Pass 4: Checking reference counts Pass 5: Checking group summary information dump: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED ***** dump: 33/1646592 files (18.2% non-contiguous), 5621796/6585521 blocks # fsck.ext3 /dev/ada0s9 e2fsck 1.42.6 (21-Sep-2012) Superblock last write time is in the future. (by less than a day, probably due to the hardware clock being incorrectly set). Fix? yes archlinux: clean, 362815/2301952 files, 7124325/9206016 blocks # mount -a already worked :), but I restarted to be sure that everything is fixed and it is :). Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 23:18:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451B87E3 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:18:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09084336 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:17:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (pool-98-112-217-228.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [98.112.217.228]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r0SNGESu086411 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:16:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) From: Doug Hardie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Booting Problem Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:16:14 -0800 Message-Id: <95407B50-A296-4012-A2C4-014321C48C74@lafn.org> To: FreeBSD Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:18:00 -0000 I have a relatively old machine that I am trying to boot 9.1 on. The = bios will not boot from USB stick. I am using an external CD drive. It = starts the boot process fine and gets to the Bootstrap loader message = with revision 1.1. Then it puts out the machine, date, time the CD was = created and starts the spinner. It spins around about 2 times and = stops. The system continues to read from the drive for another couple = minutes. Then everything stops. Nothing more happens. The CD is good. I can boot it just fine using the same external drive = on another machine. While I could remove the drive and temporarily = mount in in the working machine and build it there, I would like to find = a way to successfully boot from CD. This will become a remote machine = and taking it apart later is not a viable option.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 23:36:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A69C7A for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:36:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9136B74B for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:36:26 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=C3vNosZQiYuwJ3wUiDNKNzrVPVH3b5lNejKzVhNTFpE=; b=VRlBoNpIA/Kfrv6BEBwVOqPjCUfQ501bFW/XXa/69qMaopIafvKZcynqkVHN8xnH9iNO6owxsgVrvR//peoe/lIcCnommhqDrIfYMVAqxYjsEagi7hHsxVV49BPGbkdI; Received: from [122.129.203.50] (port=55744 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TzyFU-001xzB-Gn; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:36:25 -0700 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:36:21 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de Subject: Re: how do I restart lagg0 properly? Message-ID: <20130129063621.7d349f04@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20743.1328.684144.654036@wombat.mininet> References: <20743.1328.684144.654036@wombat.mininet> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:36:27 -0000 Hi, On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:09:36 +0100 markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de wrote: > I've tried to setup link aggregation to allow networking through WLAN > and ethernet on my laptop, see: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2013-January/248605.html > > (this thread contains my network setup information) > > The lack of replies may indicate that it is not possible to set up > lagg in a way which allows to setup networking either via WLAN or via > ethernet, whichever is accessible during boot. In any case I figured I have used this configuration with success: ifconfig_em0="up" ifconfig_iwn0="ether MAC address of em0" wlans_iwn0="wlan0" ifconfig_wlan0="WPA" cloned_interfaces="lagg0" ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport em0 laggport wlan0 Your IP address" This configuration switched automatically between the available connections prefering em0. There are no routing problems, nothing of this sort at all. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 28 23:55:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CABB2D4 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:55:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7F0824 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:55:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:55:06 -0800 Message-ID: <51070FD6.8070808@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:55:02 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: sh & export Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2013 23:55:06.0316 (UTC) FILETIME=[E5B060C0:01CDFDB2] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:55:11 -0000 I'm reading a script and i see a lot of exports. Is there some command to display the exported environment? The env command does not show them. Only see things made by setenv command. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 00:02:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270A64AB for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:02:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 61BAA899 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:02:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.82.105.247] by nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 00:02:20 -0000 Received: from [217.146.189.68] by tm19.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 00:02:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp148.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 00:02:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359417740; bh=ixFkwcnv35HhGaUMComA+hconNkunhBOmzS9+c6ls6U=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=SCkQXGYELX+xcUqkZqHjbAPjZWh0U2Mt53wCkuseEtjLY0v0qUfKCzX5OySO0OLQ+mRH7oLQHOS8dSm6aRq/EHfblN9Hhtj/e2Dagj+sbFg2yPMyt+4A+0YUxNoMrTpXMhj70QRQchA7nsrO8rcFlk8P3xHby5zuZXFzdZs0l5M= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 288322.57159.bm@smtp148.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: OtUrjiIVM1mF3Yomu53rsbNM.mDx14b7.waXK539vb3j._K p7K9HofvSVlK2N6SRXWmYanAcR3V4UyIGMGTA9LA6EBb2nzhVeme6g6EZGHV Q8lTVNFJmHQu2ZM7vl9MQKT788qybbTjdUFA_iR_XLvSkgvUNtmRUzgtbw6i nvi9K9ROP_nWcMEHAAAcELz_WREQ2ZRXc_56z3naXbrWOgVKVdjNu8n6fj6k 38sb3MvTCUp5QoF97ErJxDaxrICI7Rd01Ebie7w11MNZCi.7_438G1oviVEO VCILU537xGjyE.Tg0ttw2v7qqhcFy1q4Q73e6ACov6C9NNTIiJ2ODyZNLps0 vMeTepN0CE1XQLrJWpUNARAuK6TzPVmFySh5Z0Hj34cZZxN5skt_kbKar_EQ RcLf5ZcjxB5dhJLPLxGG3XQQ._a0Qy6tF2nwqJECPRpHcnmJs X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@92.224.211.22 with login) by smtp148.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2013 16:02:20 -0800 PST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "FreeBSD questions" , Fbsd8 Subject: Re: sh & export References: <51070FD6.8070808@a1poweruser.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:02:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <51070FD6.8070808@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:02:28 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:55:02 +0100, Fbsd8 wrote: > The env command does not show them. Does set or printenv show them? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 00:14:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A259B1 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:14:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5802E939 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.48]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6BCA718B0 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:14:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14130 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2013 00:14:12 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 29488, pid: 15514, t: 0.1552s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 Jan 2013 00:14:11 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F5733C1D; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:14:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id B3D3B39849; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:14:05 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: sh & export References: <51070FD6.8070808@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:14:05 -0500 In-Reply-To: <51070FD6.8070808@a1poweruser.com> (fbsd8@a1poweruser.com's message of "Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:55:02 -0500") Message-ID: <444ni0dewi.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:14:19 -0000 Fbsd8 writes: > I'm reading a script and i see a lot of exports. > > Is there some command to display the exported environment? > > The env command does not show them. Only see things made by setenv command. You're not clear on which shell the script is using. The subject line implies /bin/sh, but that doesn't have a setenv command. I don't think there's a direct way to show exported variables in /bin/sh, but starting an inferior shell and looking at the environment there should do it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 00:19:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A98C5AD0 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:19:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F11975 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:19:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-191.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.191]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74CC03CC66; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:09:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0T09sG1002156; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:09:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:09:54 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: sh & export Message-Id: <20130129010954.897294b3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <51070FD6.8070808@a1poweruser.com> References: <51070FD6.8070808@a1poweruser.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:19:39 -0000 On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:55:02 -0500, Fbsd8 wrote: > I'm reading a script and i see a lot of exports. > > Is there some command to display the exported environment? Yes, sh's builtin "env" does this. > The env command does not show them. Only see things made by setenv command. It seems you're mixing shells here. The C Shell uses setenv to set variables, printenv to list them. The systems's sh uses export to set variables, and env to print them. Example (with exported and non-exported variable: $ export ASDF=yxcvbnm $ env | grep ASDF ASDF=yxcvbnm $ JKL=qwertzuiop $ env | grep JKL $ echo $JKL qwertzuiop And compare for the C shell: % setenv ASDF yxcvbnm % printenv | grep ASDF ASDF=yxcvbnm % set JKL=qwertzuiop % printenv | grep JKL % echo $JKL qwertzuiop If you omit the "| grep" step, the full list will be printed. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 00:41:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF881FE1 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:41:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48CAA5A for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:41:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:41:38 -0800 Message-ID: <51071ABF.1020603@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:41:35 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: sh & export References: <51070FD6.8070808@a1poweruser.com> <444ni0dewi.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <444ni0dewi.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2013 00:41:38.0878 (UTC) FILETIME=[662F85E0:01CDFDB9] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:41:37 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Fbsd8 writes: > >> I'm reading a script and i see a lot of exports. >> >> Is there some command to display the exported environment? >> >> The env command does not show them. Only see things made by setenv command. > > You're not clear on which shell the script is using. > The subject line implies /bin/sh, but that doesn't > have a setenv command. > > I don't think there's a direct way to show exported > variables in /bin/sh, but starting an inferior shell > and looking at the environment there should do it. > This is what I am looking at in a sh script echo export jail_${jailname}_hostname=\"${jailname}\" puts it into the env and this brings it back out eval jailname=\"\$jail_${jailname}_hostname\" Question is how can I display from the console command line what has been exported? env issued on the console command line does not show any thing named jail. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 01:03:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0AE3FA for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:03:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3079B21 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:03:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 28 Jan 2013 20:03:20 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BXF53832; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:03:19 -0500 Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=209.6.84.183; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: Neutral identity=mailfrom; client-ip=209.6.84.183; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=209.6.84.183; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="postmaster@jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received: from 209-6-84-183.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.84.183]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 28 Jan 2013 20:03:20 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20743.8151.111761.459900@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:03:19 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: clipboard mangling cut/paste? X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 22) "Instant Classic" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:03:27 -0000 (I'm posting this here because I have not been able to narrow it down to a more specific candidate. Also, my Google-fu is inferior.) On a system running: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Dec 30 12:52:09 EST 2012 amd64 and xorg-server-1.10.6_2.1, I can cut from FireFox (18) and paste into xemacs (21.4). However, cutting from xemacs and pasting into Firefox turns the characters into something that looks like Japanese/Chinese. I can't even tell whether it's pasting the same number of characters (or twice/half that number). I have other systems on which this works, but have not been able to find the setting which makes everything happy. Respectfully, Robert Huff . From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 01:08:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0824F3 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:08:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B09B5A for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:08:25 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=uWCr2AzK0WYs1OONFIkpE0Kqe/0zyNMr/0t8i3RHqdE=; b=DpjSze6lSqPOW5T8XwndpK9w4t9AESLRz88AgLhnCgFx3l276jhBszzTdiD4OG5bkEws5fcAzHKZGciNy4jSvL0eWlWSSB6HaOLw6wRS7kpGOkOyzqdxZ8VQz1CfsFmW; Received: from [122.129.203.50] (port=48300 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TzzgV-002VI2-Sg; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:08:24 -0700 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:08:19 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Warren Block Subject: Re: creating bootable disk with gpart Message-ID: <20130129080819.6607da61@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20130128184407.70a03e5a@X220.ovitrap.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:08:25 -0000 Hi Warren, On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:41:10 -0700 (MST) Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I followed http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html > > to create bootable disks with GPT. > > > > As you know from my former post, I tried to boot via USB from a GPT > > disk and failed. I inserted the disk into the notebook and bootin > > also failed. > > > > Irony is that inserting the MBR disk into the USB case results also > > in a failure but much later. > > What failure? it is all getting really confusing for me. When I try now your example, it also fails: [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart destroy -F da0 da0 destroyed [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart show da0 gpart: No such geom: da0. [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart create -s mbr da0 da0 created [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart show da0 => 63 312581745 da0 MBR (149G) 63 312581745 - free - (149G) [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart bootcode -b /boot/mbr da0 bootcode written to da0 [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart show da0 => 63 312581745 da0 MBR (149G) 63 312581745 - free - (149G) [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart add -t freebsd da0 da0s1 added [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart show da0 => 63 312581745 da0 MBR (149G) 63 312581745 1 freebsd (149G) [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart set -a active -i 1 da0 active set on da0s1 [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart show da0 => 63 312581745 da0 MBR (149G) 63 312581745 1 freebsd [active] (149G) [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart create -s bsd da0s1 gpart: geom 'da0s1': File exists [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart show da0 => 63 312581745 da0 MBR (149G) 63 312581745 1 freebsd [active] (149G) Of course, there was a da0s1 before on the disk. Shouldn't gpart destroy -F da0 have destroyed it all? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 01:17:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5FB6E1 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5957C19 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:17:16 -0800 Message-ID: <51072319.7020102@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:17:13 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kpneal@pobox.com Subject: Re: sh & export References: <51070FD6.8070808@a1poweruser.com> <444ni0dewi.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <51071ABF.1020603@a1poweruser.com> <20130129011118.GA71113@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20130129011118.GA71113@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2013 01:17:16.0898 (UTC) FILETIME=[608B7C20:01CDFDBE] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:17:16 -0000 kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 07:41:35PM -0500, Fbsd8 wrote: >> This is what I am looking at in a sh script >> >> echo export jail_${jailname}_hostname=\"${jailname}\" >> puts it into the env >> and this brings it back out >> eval jailname=\"\$jail_${jailname}_hostname\" >> >> Question is how can I display from the console command >> line what has been exported? >> >> env issued on the console command line does not show >> any thing named jail. > > Environment variables are only exported to children of the shell that > created or inherited them. When you run a script you normally have your > command line shell start a child shell which then executes the script. > When the child shell that runs the script finishes the script it ends and > control returns to the parent. The child's environment at this point is > gone, but the parent couldn't have looked at it anyway. Parents don't > really know what their children are doing. > > So, to answer your question above, "You can't display from the console > what was set in a script." OK then from within a script what single command would show everything? I tested with a script with only the env command and did not get any thing more than issuing env from the console command line. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 01:24:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF9C8E3 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:24:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm11.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm11.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CFFB0CC6 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:24:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.82.105.247] by nm11.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 01:21:56 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.105] by tm19.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 01:21:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp142.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 01:21:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359422516; bh=jwe4WE9P24c8O3uVy0d6d6/Afq6/DM3+ogunboaHE7I=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:Subject:References:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=dgF8jHHTf4b+Q3HxPI/8MlqnasK2JPipzE0sz9CjallMO0IF8ukhhWN77d/FUFd8eH2I9LQBxH8vs7iXId0fwa/J7uxA2dfZy77/A7s5C++cZT8le8KEwKNhfDDwdncHgA+o9MtFXZFGKKF8E0QvDN5Q/k09TYcj5g5TX43gf9w= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 698403.31431.bm@smtp142.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: C0E_tHcVM1mw2CVqwYZ.exMZ_aLTXNIbWFXKzNMdhhkacwD CCajSDD9c38u5mxM786d2bVsRi193VB2t9cy4n8g7xU_lhsxo9XfmL9VQPcC 1V.ENQw_MLr7KnhhE_Vt7bUpa1q3ZyChgFCPDjO78Nc_KBO4PwItNZUWXK2C TtQkWlYpEHTgoU3MLzPtzWyc1HK88BYC0nj_0eQMOqraRfvchLJazqKgESsW llBwJsmA_tiSy5SK5Xcn6.rq2jluGBmFTZZT35w29iKR_nIAJ_8_IW53KGA8 Xy3t2toFpzPfYLbbEXpaYRfA40mMqbMfVU0RxyQuEkIh4ZbftHZ3OSPM9Dtt Oi4D4Ky2ClYP.rSPetWOhrwx7Aj7AXfSNlQ4WkJO9X0QLsZ4FyBdrg8nPmy0 ubLuSbg6C_vrya8mOEtUZnoZSNTZ4QvznZCjQ.XiWZmJtkeUP9BYjHhl6OUc 3VS57EbwNw9ZwNClw0.a6eM.LNOEiwyyR1g-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@92.224.211.22 with login) by smtp142.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2013 01:21:56 +0000 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? References: <20130128182726.42db0712.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:21:55 +0100 To: "FreeBSD quest" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20130128182726.42db0712.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:24:46 -0000 The output of "freebsd-update IDS >> outfile_28Jan2013.ids" is useless for this purpose. I now will do it like that: root@freebsd:/mnt/dump/tmp # bzcat ../dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130123_193142-usr_f.dump | restore rf - unfortunately it happened: /mnt/dump: write failed, file system is full write error extracting inode 2078075, name ./local/share/locale/id/LC_MESSAGES/GConf2.mo write: No space left on device ^Crestore interrupted, continue? [yn] n ;) I still have to solve this. Then I will run # ls -l /usr/bin | awk '{print $3" "$9}' > foo_original.txt # ls -l /dump_dir/usr/bin | awk '{print $3" "$9}' > foo_dump.txt and diff both text files. After that I'll do it for all relevant directories. How to continue depends to the output of diff. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 01:56:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9F5E39 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:56:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm4.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm4.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 680D1DCD for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:56:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.50] by nm4.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 01:56:13 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.60] by tm3.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 01:56:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp193.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 01:56:13 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359424573; bh=WFVssZTnpNJaWMWDI5h7Rb16qz48DWnJ9rqEyorbEuA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=uvN41N4kzUBc3N3kPyfw7xam0RPYQ7wvZ8lanWHrzT/8tVffkZAQWSe/ZQ9iaIkJIzEWm5FfAnqWyuEq9b30mvJSQwQjscsLSDYwY1P7u62qFPK5Or+hi0heGOQsFFDObws4g68CjIgCTKq0U1yK1uGOwrIYFqxhP0H67LLnuU8= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 227114.37981.bm@smtp193.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: rUiUF98VM1lAsuydhzHw6fQe7SThs.gJrX2xVYgIfku_BhM qxR9h8FWXtgZettZKfU0dPKHaqgIaPAcwM3s1fEnGbhYiQALv9iAGFFltOaa N0agDSwf80.7rkOw1p0odU8cCOVOTlVFIL4oZx_uK1pp0w.1ybGZlTxxsL6a oW335pzxF_lgYqfj7cZ.Fd7LB1lkKP1zGRx5dBJDO11MJACBdbPbFVsLj_WY jfVAN4Rx3pFCaDtS5NWTp70P5wBJR3FsbhEVnI5oSb5e7BmKBwKlloEZFVNR 7tOs63NgJSzdBaNteOtFxkNDGZx5ojfQ_RpZIpKgvUc2L8SXl9t_AtouHllb xGAd7XNOPHmGb2NZ5JD7EvNmBnIC5Gv0NCv3v65VojPewMy0.8I6MFdR9V5e 7AU4cseA81sBx4M4ekXU96qtofBBn7ZAsWAP8TECJ3CIacX9OfYIZb.IReiZ OArgT7YeBlcZoqMktwXWHwyEkLkqQSZ5xcQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@92.224.211.22 with login) by smtp193.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2013 01:56:13 +0000 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "FreeBSD quest" Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? References: <20130128182726.42db0712.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:56:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:56:21 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:21:55 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > The output of "freebsd-update IDS >> outfile_28Jan2013.ids" is useless > for this purpose. > > I now will do it like that: > > root@freebsd:/mnt/dump/tmp # bzcat > ../dump-9.1-RELEASE-20130123_193142-usr_f.dump | restore rf - > > unfortunately it happened: > > /mnt/dump: write failed, file system is full > write error extracting inode 2078075, name > ./local/share/locale/id/LC_MESSAGES/GConf2.mo > write: No space left on device > ^Crestore interrupted, continue? [yn] n > > ;) > > I still have to solve this. > > Then I will run > > # ls -l /usr/bin | awk '{print $3" "$9}' > foo_original.txt > > # ls -l /dump_dir/usr/bin | awk '{print $3" "$9}' > foo_dump.txt > > and diff both text files. After that I'll do it for all relevant > directories. > How to continue depends to the output of diff. Still not perfect, I guess I need something similar to ls -RAl for some directories :S and I didn't test what awk will do with names including a space. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 02:37:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA29367 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:37:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp2.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1035EF6 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:37:17 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=fvJelSEf c=1 sm=0 a=Dm9TOXL4taQ+Gy1KovpL+A==:17 a=B3-UUf3TchQA:10 a=DvSzqBOGy98A:10 a=pedpZTtsAAAA:8 a=wIHFKv9EmJ0A:10 a=YbCDWms8SOrd8KwtZ6cA:9 a=Dm9TOXL4taQ+Gy1KovpL+A==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller6724@bellsouth.net; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp02.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.130.198.7 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.130.198.7] ([74.130.198.7:36529] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTP id 05/C7-10746-CD537015; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:37:17 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:37:16 -0500 Message-ID: <05.C7.10746.CD537015@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice? Cc: Volodymyr Kostyrko X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:37:19 -0000 28.01.2013 01:57, james: >I have a 9.1 system with some SATA disks in RAIDZ, upgraded from 9.0. > >The disks are all the same type, and I formatted them for FreeBSD and >put ZFS in a slice covering most of them. > >I have seen suggestions for OpenIndiana etc that it is better to let ZFS >have the whole raw disk and that this can control the way it manages the >disk writeback mode. Responses from Vladimir Kostyrko ^ : ^ My home computer is set up in the dedicated mode. No grave difference. ^ Not even a scratch. >Does this apply to FreeBSD and ZFS too? ^ No. >Presumably the disks are currently FreeBSD-specific. If I used raw >disks instead of slices, could I read them from a Solaris system too? ^ I'm mostly sure you would be able to read disks from Solaris/x86. ^ However Solaris/Sparc uses another labeling scheme. If you want to be ^ fully compatible with other system GPT is a better choice. Is GPT compatible with Solaris, can Solaris access a GPT disk? I tried OpenIndiana installable live USB stick, and my Western Digital Caviar Green 3 TB hard disk, partitioned with GPT, was not recognized or readable; same was true for Western Digital My Book Essential 3 TB USB 3.0 hard disk, also partitioned GPT. This was on amd64 system. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 02:41:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2335538 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:41:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-x22d.google.com (ia-in-x022d.1e100.net [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c02::22d]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FC0F35 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:41:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f173.google.com with SMTP id l29so5304095iag.18 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:41:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iFXHCu5cdxHnhjdjd5fIpWY4mHegqnBUtVEUHSSv+VI=; b=AJy+9N+orKmrEOLF3Va8ow6sKTRMJmBoPhE+VgZwGllmcGStdoVygqX/kHATsMerFR 4UsCS8so2MUYR2rJ5H8TdMEmJwe6jBnDT8ISkCJ+Kcme5bMf4rz60YxLQhM3Vz6NV9tl AV9wulsxiPv/cOqaR4Jy6zNLkndfLHXb9X9mlQTFqRc881QQDXK7+WKFkAJuqK1s//IZ yC6fETBE54z8nc3ED49h0gJZmtTrgcX1xXrXGjhzowkPFFp+DtVJEJq8HPijkVZ5Rsk1 WxGTKJKFOPR+wdsKu1rrJwDJYo+SM8fFOAtFRcT8PbXMlOvcvgCjQRFNWUiXiL96TW3I rB7g== X-Received: by 10.43.110.132 with SMTP id ek4mr10125859icc.32.1359427304105; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:41:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.14] (c-98-212-197-211.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.212.197.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c3sm751730igj.1.2013.01.28.18.41.42 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:41:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <510736DE.4060701@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:41:34 -0600 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? References: <20130128182726.42db0712.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:41:44 -0000 On 1/28/2013 7:56 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Still not perfect, I guess I need something similar to ls -RAl for some > directories :S and I didn't test what awk will do with names including a > space. Try `find /dir -ls`. You can pipe it into sed like this `find /dir -ls| sed -e 's%/dir%%g'` and then get something easily comparable. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 02:53:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF499660 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:53:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A545F82 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:53:42 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=IwRKCGAgwZN+6VwLg+pOxepHkNPIi7TEZgTVR4VYkMA=; b=TShSaYT6dfJ5J3SXBUAF4eUkmMarFU5C6lB6KyZTcu1wUw5+1uBAYQSjkCZGiDDWsR3QXTgKZnqkbBrhYUmAFLrZJGHu5VoTW9XvVzjhBJDSymovNOQ1r5/D493Zncwr; Received: from [122.129.203.50] (port=63545 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U01K8-0030Tt-Sp; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:53:41 -0700 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:51:58 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: creating bootable disk with gpart Message-ID: <20130129095158.2832ead7@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20130129080819.6607da61@X220.ovitrap.com> References: <20130128184407.70a03e5a@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130129080819.6607da61@X220.ovitrap.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:53:42 -0000 Hi, On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:08:19 +0700 Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi Warren, > > On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:41:10 -0700 (MST) > Warren Block wrote: > > > On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I followed http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html > > > to create bootable disks with GPT. > > > > > > As you know from my former post, I tried to boot via USB from a > > > GPT disk and failed. I inserted the disk into the notebook and > > > bootin also failed. > > > > > > Irony is that inserting the MBR disk into the USB case results > > > also in a failure but much later. > > > > What failure? > > it is all getting really confusing for me. When I try now your > example, it also fails: > > [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart destroy -F da0 > da0 destroyed > [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart show da0 > gpart: No such geom: da0. > [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart create -s mbr da0 > da0 created > [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart show da0 > => 63 312581745 da0 MBR (149G) > 63 312581745 - free - (149G) > > [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart bootcode -b /boot/mbr da0 > bootcode written to da0 > [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart show da0 > => 63 312581745 da0 MBR (149G) > 63 312581745 - free - (149G) > > [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart add -t freebsd da0 > da0s1 added > [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart show da0 > => 63 312581745 da0 MBR (149G) > 63 312581745 1 freebsd (149G) > > [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart set -a active -i 1 da0 > active set on da0s1 > [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart show da0 > => 63 312581745 da0 MBR (149G) > 63 312581745 1 freebsd [active] (149G) > > [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart create -s bsd da0s1 > gpart: geom 'da0s1': File exists > [X220]/home/erich (root) > gpart show da0 > => 63 312581745 da0 MBR (149G) > 63 312581745 1 freebsd [active] (149G) > > Of course, there was a da0s1 before on the disk. Shouldn't gpart > destroy -F da0 have destroyed it all? > even using the image to install FreeBSD 9.0 from a thumbdrive gives the same result. It seems that old partitions re-appear after a deleted slice is created again. I then installed FreeBSD 9.0 from that thumbdrive onto that USB disk using a MBR schema. Of course, this booted after editing /etc/fstab. My problem are still the re-appearin partitions. I would like to have a script which flattens a media and creates new partitions and puts a new file system on each partition. There are now two options I have. Looking at the source (would be the ideal one) or do a hack deleting partitions which might not exist. The original problem of a GPT device not booting would still be there. I will go back to my normal work now. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 02:55:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A8F700 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:55:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm3-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm3-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 60F7BF93 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:55:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.50] by nm3.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 02:54:56 -0000 Received: from [217.146.189.65] by tm3.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 02:54:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp145.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 02:54:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359428096; bh=uqQ7+qQ8HD2lzOsBn8CJ8ovDIknjMuqjKaoozYdagA8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=Gs/VOMb5nG7h54BvjsWc5EDp8JooyptlV7lYcjgedFt3CiouW17Kxk/EoAruNQmgVD9wbUWk1KybWNCT7MLpP6OADURPHPB0LsCMHRAg8fGgS8TNpllrkWk2UyUSjYdWY4obouQfiZJWDGB0auNF4LDRFV7AF7pjaBx6qkIwOHg= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 623997.2110.bm@smtp145.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: chVOzkcVM1mLvJ5F5y2lx2Mw_esks2g70rG10.JJnK4kK91 cDMng2pT_LBDKN17NeaDVXiTNs7g93A.A9f7rkJQec.IbaT9Agb75onIxkE_ uIlMwYjLMzAwIqHmU2jg9a0uGBiECP3eDjuf3RDM6jryz6udoDCSK1orTE.G qlhwqWHb3VttNj1alUFAG2cQJP876Z8a_EK49ZOT1gZKdqory9CDMTFbuMen B2KERnvdl0CLcHDho_PBx0VINbztGnMCH8xUVb__EdhDi4622xTgNyUdWGO8 kwIDmuFUYkLk3Iaw6pRuh6Qsfget3tlw76FNNoeD2sbx3S.YiA8Q1fR11m2N 9xU4TtE8weiDBehHNH.uJHkyQ_JEq9K21LR7F9S9LFUqCmgLF1PUPM03kkpu aOva3yL2D7q3ku_zmsb0YRfBVK3Xwh2Vdn0BclA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@92.224.211.22 with login) by smtp145.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2013 18:54:56 -0800 PST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? References: <20130128182726.42db0712.freebsd@edvax.de> <510736DE.4060701@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:54:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <510736DE.4060701@gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:55:05 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:41:34 +0100, Joshua Isom wrote: > On 1/28/2013 7:56 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> Still not perfect, I guess I need something similar to ls -RAl for some >> directories :S and I didn't test what awk will do with names including a >> space. > > Try `find /dir -ls`. You can pipe it into sed like this `find /dir -ls| > sed -e 's%/dir%%g'` and then get something easily comparable. Cool, it does display the path, but there's still the other issue: $ touch test\ test $ find * -ls| sed -e 's%/dir%%g'| awk '{print $5" "$11}' rocketmouse test Perhaps awk isn't that important, but it e.g. will filter different file sizes, for e.g. configurations I edited in the meantime. :( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 03:02:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5E287E for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:02:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E629BCC for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:02:41 -0800 Message-ID: <51073BCE.3070406@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:02:38 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: /etc/rc.d/jail script Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2013 03:02:41.0808 (UTC) FILETIME=[1A7C2900:01CDFDCD] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:02:41 -0000 I have noticed that the /etc/rc.d/jail script will not start a jail that has the same ip address as a jail that is already running. But if I define 2 jails the manual way in rc.conf that have the same ip address they will start. So is this a bug in the "jail" script or is there some reason for this restriction? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 03:04:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F3AF939 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:04:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-x229.google.com (ia-in-x0229.1e100.net [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c02::229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2D3F0 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:04:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f169.google.com with SMTP id j5so5333841iaf.14 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:04:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qE0XOhJTZEow8n8eoRkBWbRMXgp0TzkSsx5AGC7hQgU=; b=t9laGzFt6VBKAs00gzHkGuXTzEG2ni65aIUNxprk/rQwGLNsn1vLx6td5arShMjkFY 6oJLY4qaZStY+RL9+EeJPo9ilEPrxzreMtgIb1XjTNbFYRMt7GIXRCeb9qU4upYksFmt HQ/UvDAbGBvES6Cs5gLKQCIL7F3z7F6VtaPlv2dyqhF7kBPKTqyEYuzelWbnxPGeQwuh pZt5CANTEl/FKetn51raGr6uaLyPG7AUQc+mrm5EHbpzyWx3p+t7f1jf2bV59nH6m+bz d77NoSezcTBHZqpuy7mTUU7WIloiwsz7GHwSMeW27jAaBe4So7DEzXOqIg1pCNhnRQCU ZDxQ== X-Received: by 10.50.42.197 with SMTP id q5mr6541622igl.91.1359428670789; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:04:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.14] (c-98-212-197-211.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.212.197.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hg2sm767455igc.3.2013.01.28.19.04.29 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:04:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <51073C35.8010602@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:04:21 -0600 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? References: <20130128182726.42db0712.freebsd@edvax.de> <510736DE.4060701@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:04:31 -0000 On 1/28/2013 8:54 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:41:34 +0100, Joshua Isom wrote: >> On 1/28/2013 7:56 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> Still not perfect, I guess I need something similar to ls -RAl for some >>> directories :S and I didn't test what awk will do with names including a >>> space. >> >> Try `find /dir -ls`. You can pipe it into sed like this `find /dir >> -ls| sed -e 's%/dir%%g'` and then get something easily comparable. > > Cool, it does display the path, but there's still the other issue: > > $ touch test\ test > $ find * -ls| sed -e 's%/dir%%g'| awk '{print $5" "$11}' > rocketmouse test > > Perhaps awk isn't that important, but it e.g. will filter different file > sizes, for e.g. configurations I edited in the meantime. > > :( You're basically getting down to the dirty tedious parts. Unless you know a full featured scripting language with a find library to find and compare ownership, or you want a custom c program for a rare occurrence, you're just going to have to do it the tedious way. Computer's aren't always fun and glory. For every beautiful network, someone had to run the wires into the wall, through the dirt, and to the other building. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 03:18:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2561EB11 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:18:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm18.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm18.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75F3A17F for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.49] by nm18.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 03:15:17 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.104] by tm2.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 03:15:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp141.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 03:15:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359429317; bh=AY0dfwhnQsTIu0kDJm822yeQ3HJ7ADe6x7QNfTHpuZc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=b4IT9arZvKlECRjl7N/xpg4OImCnMemknBkejrR7BN1wmnxCMCj5U7XPUYWti8IlF7D5yqcJhW74+VFxyMDRHf2WcmWOhVUAUd8WkhIUN5cXJ9WFJe/hewG5LJdim2TzmcmeC7+1GvdQH/LlV4TkLocB8xLF+fJxxMdYgoXfCjU= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 789924.58292.bm@smtp141.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: CTOwHyEVM1lhQEu5DXfwJRwBWegYECM_CcsBXn3.5Rf2L3y e7edXMgzO2krdyZ.p5OfWNFGWauKylVlVSQasGFr_NiUwgUDls5kdWYKn8pE l2qQnbzY88vO.NBHQORQYjxdxTABmvhQkmR7G1B2700ut2SxMi0iP0EySpWb .GkO9u2UsPnOW1sp2iQcwlW_tf1N7N7a_rkvPe0r1G.eIiXaEdJ_gRKRAP8n M4Y91KJMDIhoO.RuSkSK9oNYNwDGzaS50Q4wJEOBsVJWYidTI4kc5W_4z5KK scSVv0.AwGp_NFDeG5HYzR2wDbzC52D0pAEwuU7xVMWEonFIrBC2Ua_jGpSv Wpaig4yn3H6014WhysKPDMwJeoADjRDFkRAkNyGA4eH7Cp2CiFCgMv2GCXf5 iqRx8CE7OOT2sOuxB4uo_bYVdyQ_oHlz890hRwA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@92.224.211.22 with login) by smtp141.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2013 03:15:17 +0000 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? References: <20130128182726.42db0712.freebsd@edvax.de> <510736DE.4060701@gmail.com> <51073C35.8010602@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:15:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <51073C35.8010602@gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:18:25 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:04:21 +0100, Joshua Isom wrote: > On 1/28/2013 8:54 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:41:34 +0100, Joshua Isom >> wrote: >>> On 1/28/2013 7:56 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>>> Still not perfect, I guess I need something similar to ls -RAl for >>>> some >>>> directories :S and I didn't test what awk will do with names >>>> including a >>>> space. >>> >>> Try `find /dir -ls`. You can pipe it into sed like this `find /dir >>> -ls| sed -e 's%/dir%%g'` and then get something easily comparable. >> >> Cool, it does display the path, but there's still the other issue: >> >> $ touch test\ test >> $ find * -ls| sed -e 's%/dir%%g'| awk '{print $5" "$11}' >> rocketmouse test >> >> Perhaps awk isn't that important, but it e.g. will filter different file >> sizes, for e.g. configurations I edited in the meantime. >> >> :( > > You're basically getting down to the dirty tedious parts. Unless you > know a full featured scripting language with a find library to find and > compare ownership, or you want a custom c program for a rare occurrence, > you're just going to have to do it the tedious way. Computer's aren't > always fun and glory. For every beautiful network, someone had to run > the wires into the wall, through the dirt, and to the other building. I already have an idea. Since $11 is the last output I might be able to check whether there is a space followed by a sign, by a loop, assumed there should be several spaces, interrupted by signs. I guess to care for several spaces one after the other and exotic signs that might "break" awk IMO isn't needed. It might become a very long "command line" ;). Perhaps I don't need it, I have to test it. I extracted the first dump, but need a rest now. Thank you :). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 03:19:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 227BDBB9 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 710A0194 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.82.105.244] by nm8.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 03:19:09 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.62] by tm16.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 03:19:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp195.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 03:19:09 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359429549; bh=dJLqAxWExr1E8+KSjlvF2LYhv7eUGl0Jx6rNF5QfcV0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=jRAxNORxEr4bEexS/fMcCoELnOve2sXUBjdzobcGrR+H240bQOxHFYLoUlvvM/0g3Pfv18pAWX+VyD+XA5PBPDmZNjMxvVStaFDaG2Lo0aA7YP/I+L5AVoNWPYsrMJfqN9ehksZj4ZG+IMZZDpnY/wrw0OQE4kgZTMbLefDPBbI= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 340105.56225.bm@smtp195.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 5lI87PMVM1nWynJkgOXb4_NqXk8rWmQoohB.FuCQUckhXwx yK.PkcvY.v9v2d1iXXO6C_RcG_p_tnzk6qvJ931GqJ9kR73RVNdUq9jC0Lvp uyLvAtuoYMdVhgvQyGWVyha_SJYhW8FmYVEZIDR7Eez84oM.lOm24V0gZatn 3aVWV7lwRorsxLi8DfVsPQanhBZKU683W8bqtphjvRxLkz49jWrhW47USs84 wf_nxLyXUAb7aPl1Ukutk4S3w6ZdUWEeWd13Ent69k_FIzOIsWogmSsaqnUB BptIJluOkTWA2K9eD5U3IUCWaUjavp3ac9FD9nBU35B9ox5Pr8PjTT2LMAsV .yTfBFBcP_E._7M2echhbwtdpp0MbBEbaDa8KacKUm8y3yEOROXPT6iyORUb QrXrGHUtkE9uWtPIJdcyliPmDJT7R4yyC3kiG8Q-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@92.224.211.22 with login) by smtp195.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2013 03:19:09 +0000 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? References: <20130128182726.42db0712.freebsd@edvax.de> <510736DE.4060701@gmail.com> <51073C35.8010602@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:19:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:19:12 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:15:17 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:04:21 +0100, Joshua Isom wrote: > >> On 1/28/2013 8:54 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:41:34 +0100, Joshua Isom >>> wrote: >>>> On 1/28/2013 7:56 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>>>> Still not perfect, I guess I need something similar to ls -RAl for >>>>> some >>>>> directories :S and I didn't test what awk will do with names >>>>> including a >>>>> space. >>>> >>>> Try `find /dir -ls`. You can pipe it into sed like this `find /dir >>>> -ls| sed -e 's%/dir%%g'` and then get something easily comparable. >>> >>> Cool, it does display the path, but there's still the other issue: >>> >>> $ touch test\ test >>> $ find * -ls| sed -e 's%/dir%%g'| awk '{print $5" "$11}' >>> rocketmouse test >>> >>> Perhaps awk isn't that important, but it e.g. will filter different >>> file >>> sizes, for e.g. configurations I edited in the meantime. >>> >>> :( >> >> You're basically getting down to the dirty tedious parts. Unless you >> know a full featured scripting language with a find library to find and >> compare ownership, or you want a custom c program for a rare >> occurrence, you're just going to have to do it the tedious way. >> Computer's aren't always fun and glory. For every beautiful network, >> someone had to run the wires into the wall, through the dirt, and to >> the other building. > > I already have an idea. Since $11 is the last output I might be able to > check whether there is a space followed by a sign, by a loop, assumed > there should be several spaces, interrupted by signs. I guess to care > for several spaces one after the other and exotic signs that might > "break" awk IMO isn't needed. > > It might become a very long "command line" ;). Perhaps I don't need it, > I have to test it. I extracted the first dump, but need a rest now. > > Thank you :). Solved! # find * -ls | sed -e 's%/dir%%g' | awk '{print $5" "$11" "$12" "$13}' I can add $14 to $83635484 ;). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 03:21:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED381C69 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:21:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm2-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm2-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A9151AD for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:21:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.56] by nm2.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 03:20:56 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.121] by tm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 03:20:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp158.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 03:20:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359429656; bh=7ai2jSxzAZuc1hH0+4I4KUjyhETprrF7isJARwK7UNU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=Xs1Uj3/4isrpBqBIoKBkw84I0Q04XqrRrSsjCWdtECcgpb2zzGUYBbVYFWg4Kdf7UQon1W2U904Ren4bR0k6/1x3JrJR8OG7GYgr0Au+TiKh3fZyzL/+DkO2JpEXhswpqAwE7bkPYMfjwT9UzzD81InicOasKewzZwlj0jBAJTw= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 185898.54497.bm@smtp158.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: ReQZtkcVM1mgJOmPmJefSXQ0ituEtv2x5ESVqKGwS3hIUMJ TYy1TM2TKqwZzgVn8nduZgpNUG.m3h2Jbm6Vhz8HP_U4rZSK0oliZyOXpMsp ._4jU0aLer_E_XsqtIplcoAs7Jl6aFc1ib_5vWwhAqQL.AovQHsDnop.6foP TX2j3R4tzjMA63pxaZJK8xLAPT1Tt8AiV1TIgsc.zTQ9dwjJDRsqxBAxlB2H J5Ka1OEDcO9Qpd5lsAvRibTiS.X_otAceGB7rDmnaFI6Okyyas5wubVEqPrd pFsr7CUc9JVQknyOhtnoCo7PzBVek9e8FzHleY7ll67boAcveU6I7xPuzEBN zV9Cy_7O.vdH97iU5YkdAq8dRlo7c9Pyxvb9HNOZ_r.PnyHp.A_2n2Mc5A.n e9M_4_kEmouc0QX3u.LOzcy.gsC3elyyxrXgGcg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@92.224.211.22 with login) by smtp158.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2013 03:20:56 +0000 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? References: <20130128182726.42db0712.freebsd@edvax.de> <510736DE.4060701@gmail.com> <51073C35.8010602@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:20:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:21:04 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:19:08 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:15:17 +0100, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > >> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:04:21 +0100, Joshua Isom >> wrote: >> >>> On 1/28/2013 8:54 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:41:34 +0100, Joshua Isom >>>> wrote: >>>>> On 1/28/2013 7:56 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>>>>> Still not perfect, I guess I need something similar to ls -RAl for >>>>>> some >>>>>> directories :S and I didn't test what awk will do with names >>>>>> including a >>>>>> space. >>>>> >>>>> Try `find /dir -ls`. You can pipe it into sed like this `find /dir >>>>> -ls| sed -e 's%/dir%%g'` and then get something easily comparable. >>>> >>>> Cool, it does display the path, but there's still the other issue: >>>> >>>> $ touch test\ test >>>> $ find * -ls| sed -e 's%/dir%%g'| awk '{print $5" "$11}' >>>> rocketmouse test >>>> >>>> Perhaps awk isn't that important, but it e.g. will filter different >>>> file >>>> sizes, for e.g. configurations I edited in the meantime. >>>> >>>> :( >>> >>> You're basically getting down to the dirty tedious parts. Unless you >>> know a full featured scripting language with a find library to find >>> and compare ownership, or you want a custom c program for a rare >>> occurrence, you're just going to have to do it the tedious way. >>> Computer's aren't always fun and glory. For every beautiful network, >>> someone had to run the wires into the wall, through the dirt, and to >>> the other building. >> >> I already have an idea. Since $11 is the last output I might be able to >> check whether there is a space followed by a sign, by a loop, assumed >> there should be several spaces, interrupted by signs. I guess to care >> for several spaces one after the other and exotic signs that might >> "break" awk IMO isn't needed. >> >> It might become a very long "command line" ;). Perhaps I don't need it, >> I have to test it. I extracted the first dump, but need a rest now. >> >> Thank you :). > > Solved! > > # find * -ls | sed -e 's%/dir%%g' | awk '{print $5" "$11" "$12" "$13}' > > I can add $14 to $83635484 ;). I guess $[...] is limited, but even with 12 and 13, it should be enough. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 06:39:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93DFA52 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:39:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8C1A5A for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:39:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0T6dNVI030766 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:39:23 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.7.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r0T6dNVI030766 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/r0T6dNVI030766; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (insecure policy) Message-ID: <51076E93.7040306@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:39:15 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kpneal@pobox.com Subject: Re: sh & export References: <51070FD6.8070808@a1poweruser.com> <444ni0dewi.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <51071ABF.1020603@a1poweruser.com> <20130129011118.GA71113@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20130129011118.GA71113@neutralgood.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="----enig2MPVAOSTEXMXBGWGVTKIQ" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Fbsd8 , FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:39:30 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2MPVAOSTEXMXBGWGVTKIQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 29/01/2013 01:11, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 07:41:35PM -0500, Fbsd8 wrote: >> This is what I am looking at in a sh script >> >> echo export jail_${jailname}_hostname=3D\"${jailname}\" >> puts it into the env >> and this brings it back out >> eval jailname=3D\"\$jail_${jailname}_hostname\" >> >> Question is how can I display from the console command >> line what has been exported? >> >> env issued on the console command line does not show >> any thing named jail. >=20 > Environment variables are only exported to children of the shell that > created or inherited them. When you run a script you normally have your= > command line shell start a child shell which then executes the script. > When the child shell that runs the script finishes the script it ends a= nd > control returns to the parent. The child's environment at this point is= > gone, but the parent couldn't have looked at it anyway. Parents don't > really know what their children are doing. >=20 > So, to answer your question above, "You can't display from the console > what was set in a script." >=20 I'm afraid that's simply not true. ps(1) has a '-e' flag which can show you the environment for any process. However, since printing out the environment will easily overflow the console width that ps(1) uses by default, it's best to combine it with a couple of 'w's. Thus: ps -wwwe ${pid_of_process} Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey ------enig2MPVAOSTEXMXBGWGVTKIQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEHbpoACgkQ8Mjk52CukIweqgCfdPDfhokb6MKI8JUXMhqJf7mi xTYAn2qs6tzfFPP8zGENYrnJeB9exJZE =Hs/o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------enig2MPVAOSTEXMXBGWGVTKIQ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 07:52:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E4F23C for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:52:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CE0DF7 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id o1so2163574wic.11 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:52:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xvWJJvn89oqJdkAWVot3h6LMotbIHaNL0FAT1X/6m+o=; b=XHLOcZibhFfHgpunnh5BoFLrGfi5jBanoJPQntlYwro7XwflHtgNrig54HFkNKn/cS nAOQR+Cj94P8YUQb9ZpiYSC3j20fAJOFC4hJ4FhlfXbpiS07nNp6wQgwaF8+VI/Oselp RVjVu5rmxrrfsd/W0+WtZlPYn533oyNP0Qdxgfv+NKwdnxu+OXbN7DU38QC3201Qx8Ge MYzpIoFUCfDwTLF3jUQXNWGbourtoTg64R//T/xp+06hhgBj8pNnNgCHv/e2p3XXGhgh gK5/Dbb2mFiy3/4wa1TFoiMozhxWrYzulsNxb6T9FOok2nYcfWv0A2BbH1p1vesDxMnE CQ8g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.99.227 with SMTP id et3mr494273wib.6.1359445947362; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:52:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.29.9 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:52:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50CAD7B5.30107@gmail.com> References: <50B8D04D.2020703@gmail.com> <50C9D767.6000604@gmail.com> <50CAD7B5.30107@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:52:27 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: dhclient and random disconnects From: David Demelier To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:52:28 -0000 The thing very annoying, is that when my wireless disconnects, I must wait until wpa_supplicant re-associate to the AP. Then I have no working connection until I redo dhclient lagg0. And running dhclient lagg0 will say dhclient already running.. So I always need to kill it before. That issue does not let me work efficiently as I need to connect me again and again.. 2012/12/14 David Demelier > On 13/12/2012 23:39, jb wrote: > >> David Demelier gmail.com> writes: >> >> ... >>> I have setup lagg0 for a failover with ethernet, (note the problem >>> appears if I use wlan0 only too) >>> >>> # Fail over between wired/wireless. >>> cloned_interfaces="lagg0" >>> ifconfig_msk0="up" >>> ifconfig_ath0="ether 18:a9:05:87:38:0a" >>> ifconfig_wlan0="WPA" >>> ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport msk0 laggport wlan0 DHCP" >>> ipv6_activate_all_interfaces="**YES" >>> >> According to the example in: >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_**US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/** >> network-aggregation.html >> >> this line is missing in your setup: >> wlans_ath0="wlan0" >> >> which is also mentioned in: >> /etc/defaults/rc.conf >> ... >> #wlans_ath0="wlan0" # wlan(4) interfaces for ath0 device >> ... >> >> I can not test it as I do not have access to a FB machine right now. >> jb >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org " >> > > Yes it is, but was earlier in the rc.conf, I forgot to paste it sorry, > > David > -- Demelier David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 07:54:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C283C2 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:54:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E0EE3F for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:54:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U061p-0004rJ-Fo for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:54:49 +0100 Received: from pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.84.117]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:54:49 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:54:49 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: Software raid VS hardware raid Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:54:18 -0500 Lines: 97 Message-ID: References: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:54:40 -0000 Artem Kuchin wrote: > Hello! > > I have to made a decision on choosing a dedicated server. > The problem i see is that while i can find very affordable and good > options they do not > provide hardware raid or even if they do it is not the best hardware for > freebsd. > The server base conf is 8core 32gb ram 2.8+ ghz. > So, maybe someone has personal experience with both worlds and can tell > if it > really matters in such configuration if i go for software raid. What are > the benefits > and what are the negatives of software raid? How much is the performance > penalty? > I am planning to use mirror configuration of two SATA 7200rpm 2TB disks. > Nothing fancy. > File system planned is UFS with journaling. I can't say for sure exactly what's best for your needs, however, please allow me to toss out some very generic tidbits which may aid you in some way. Historically back when RAID was new, hardware controllers were the only way to go. Back then I would never look at software RAID for a server machine. Best to offload as much work away from the CPU as possible to free it up for running the OS. What has changed is the amount of raw horsepower available from modern-day processors as compared to when RAID first came out. On the multi-core monster CPUs of today software RAID is a perfectly viable consideration because there are CPU cycles to spare, so the "performance penalty" is less now than it once was. Having said that, there are several other considerations to keep in mind as well. The type of RAID required matters. If you want/need RAID 5/6 it is definitely better to go with hardware RAID because of the horsepower required to do the XOR parity generation. You would want RAID 5/6 running on a hardware controller and not on the CPU. On the other hand, RAID 0, 1, and 10 are fine candidates for software RAID. One thing I've noticed that seems to somewhat get lost in this discussion is equating software-based RAID with not needing to spend money on the expensive RAID controller. At first glance it does seem like quite a waste to spend hundreds of dollars on a really fast RAID controller and then turn all its functionality off and just use it JBOD style. If you truly want performance you still need the processing power of the hardware chip on the (expensive) controller. Most central to this is I/Os per second. This matters more to some workloads than others, with being a database server probably at the top of the list where I/Os per second is king. The better the chip on the controller card the more I/Os per second. Another thing that matters less wrt to server hardware is the third kind of RAID known as "fake" or "pseudo" RAID. This is mostly found on desktop PC motherboards and some low-end (cheap) hardware cards. There is a config in the BIOS to set up so-called "RAID", but it is only half of the matter - the other half is in the driver. FreeBSD does indeed have support for some of these "fake RAID" things but I stay far far away from them. Either go hardware or pure software only - the fakeraid is crap. Another thing I'd warn you about is the drives themselves. Take a look: http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1397 Many people get very lucky much of the time and don't experience problems with this. Using drives designed for desktop PCs with RAID can be prone to problem. Drives designed for servers are more expensive, but I've always felt it is better to put server drives in servers. :-) In terms of a 'performance penalty' what you will find is it gets shifted away from just losing a few CPU cycles into other areas. If the drives are Advanced Format 4k sector critters and they aren't properly aligned in the partitioning phase of set up performance will take a hit. If the controller chip they are hooked up to is slow, then the entire drive subsystem will suffer. Another thing you will find that will surface as a problem area is the shift away from the old style DOS MBR scheme and towards GPT. Software RAID (and indeed hardware controllers too) store their metadata at the end of the drive and needs to be "outside" the file system. The problem arises when both the software raid and the GPT partitioning try to store metadata to the same location and collide. Just knowing about this in advance and spending some quality reading time about it prior to trying to set up the box will help greatly. Plenty has been written (even in this list) about this subject by people smarter than me so the info you need is out there, albeit it can be confusing at first. I guess what I'm trying to point out is that low performance wrt software RAID will stem from other things besides just simply consuming a few CPU cycles. Today's CPUs have the cycles to spare. I've been using gmirror for RAID 1 mirrors for a few years now and am happy with this. I have had a few old drives die and the servers stayed up and online. This allowed me to defer the actual drive replacement and not have to drop everything and fight fire. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 08:25:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CD888D for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:25:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11644F58 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:25:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=C91rOHz+ c=1 sm=0 a=lLOF/jpPrR0dcgWXP1EvZg==:17 a=xCuMbNp8hPoA:10 a=IC4q_LfJv7IA:10 a=R5FhY6rjjCMA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Ymsr-CWnAAAA:8 a=Jr-I1VLpokkA:10 a=LrC7ZQYOGBfuK-jjddUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=lLOF/jpPrR0dcgWXP1EvZg==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 204.210.114.114 Received: from [204.210.114.114] ([204.210.114.114:59787] helo=localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 62/58-27917-78787015; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:25:43 +0000 Received: by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5744B5D05; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:28:06 -1000 (HST) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:28:06 -1000 From: parv To: Ralf Mardorf Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? Message-ID: <20130129082806.GA2035@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Ralf Mardorf , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:25:50 -0000 in message , wrote Ralf Mardorf thusly... > > Hi :) > > I hope it's ok, when I open a new thread for this issue. > First I need to know what files have a bad owner. > > I'm running > # freebsd-update IDS >> outfile_28Jan2013.ids > perhaps this will give some useful output, regarding to a wrong owner for > files from world. > > It's still running. > > I still have no idea how to check this for the files build from ports. If I understand your problem correctly, it is of incorrect owner & group. If so, are there any problems with just running "chown -R" on the parent directory (say /usr/local, where ports are installed by default)? - parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 08:59:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3AA8B8 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:59:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brentgclarklist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x231.google.com (la-in-x0231.1e100.net [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490E0288 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:59:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f49.google.com with SMTP id fs13so105822lab.22 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:59:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ec7pmbc2qZc2LtPIgrYjQCzkZyeVKLgEPsN4ylUglNE=; b=ViA2l103Br+8IdP8M/7DmaINucHbwLg2nPkMXFLG2rwGrtzlYDqK8lb9uzMVdxBcuo rdXCG4nwRMEANCmvyIFqpR5NWqhI1WKgm+SmyPSl61w6rjL+QRszdjZyBQyxxpYEAIUG G6MlftyccsID7jiz+/XaVKRoNFIl9PsZnE1UdTdkIQyCulOkVFsiLOIYoyCM0BdJSrBA W7Y+dGpCMxSiq6IG1oA8wj0MB/dGwURNV6VpCsc/HIPlVpPsrydjL4oq7DSiN+YzmVJC pCc4DZkZR7PfeTvYaU99a8lEn0eigkR4rAtD8qJ1UGoaghqLalvpCGRdmixM359Gh6fn DHBA== X-Received: by 10.152.133.52 with SMTP id oz20mr373266lab.30.1359449996982; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:59:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.129] (office.cpt1.host-h.net. [196.7.147.49]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ns7sm4595720lab.5.2013.01.29.00.59.55 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:59:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <51078FAF.3060505@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:00:31 +0200 From: Brent Clark User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Old FreeBSD server, raid issues. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:59:58 -0000 Good day I have an old machine that has lost its raid (0/ stripe). Im trying to fix this. If I go [root@torry /usr/home/bclark]# gstripe list Geom name: st0 State: UP Status: Total=3, Online=3 Type: AUTOMATIC Stripesize: 65536 ID: 1006591079 Providers: 1. Name: stripe/st0 Mediasize: 360102297600 (335G) Sectorsize: 512 Stripesize: 65536 Stripeoffset: 0 Mode: r0w0e0 Consumers: 1. Name: ada0 Mediasize: 120034123776 (111G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 Number: 0 2. Name: ada1 Mediasize: 120034123776 (111G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 Number: 2 3. Name: ada4 Mediasize: 120034123776 (111G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 Number: 1 I see 'State: UP' if i: [root@torry /usr/home/bclark]# mount -t ufs /dev/stripe/st0a /mnt/ mount: /dev/stripe/st0a: Invalid argument [root@torry /usr/home/bclark]# fsck /dev/stripe/st0a fsck: Could not determine filesystem type [root@torry /usr/home/bclark]# fsck_ufs /dev/stripe/st0a ** /dev/stripe/st0a Cannot find file system superblock ioctl (GCINFO): Inappropriate ioctl for device fsck_ufs: /dev/stripe/st0a: can't read disk label If someone could help, it would be appreciated, of what the next step is, it would be appreciated. Kind Regards Brent Clark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 09:23:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA031D80 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:23:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jb.1234abcd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ve0-f169.google.com (mail-ve0-f169.google.com [209.85.128.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914AC3FB for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f169.google.com with SMTP id cy12so126494veb.0 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:23:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=XTh4Svofbv4GRa9c9R+2awKDj/jNylfYLD1HUD8YXnQ=; b=C7bB1vYdnd4wTaFdnAygiN46clXoGdyVqKyhdjRi9SMxC18TBujVKpRPMXV4OoenB4 lzBdWuZEabiCpb6TOCmqJOv4s5XKvLXjzIQGy1mokV8MyP4J8VEO+qLLF2SRLvHkuco6 vdeKncIYBVXvxru4ep7S96mkLuYYSwugtEjkqzb+TlURDDgK7pCnQ9JATNRWbX12P5Tl +nplWI4TV2GS0l0ukG9illDyOjGJDQLCimjRkhVuSVQSEA2t+CTsXVVQoh5/yI20w/JQ pVaGwQaNgyDVv4SCokGQ5lgxm41p7Tl4NaGNghaaghcgsT9tmdzsc0fg4jfjwaAJXNSl XdJA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.95.203 with SMTP id dm11mr186109vdb.112.1359451421030; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:23:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.126.201 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:23:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:23:40 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: dhclient and random disconnects From: J B To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:23:47 -0000 There are few things you should do. First, w/r to you complaint about first-kill-then restart, this will do it for you /etc/rc.d/dhclient lagg0 restart second, I remember you wrote that you have a trouble with disconnects even in wireless-only setup (no failover setup). If so, you should run and debug wireless only for the time being. Note: remember what wpa_supplicant does: It handles passing the login and encryption credentials to the authentication server. It also handles roaming from one wireless access point to another, in order to maintain connectivity. Here are some hints on setup: http://hostap.epitest.fi/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=hostap.git;a=blob_plain;f=wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf and http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=wpa_supplicant&sektion=8 and debugging: http://www.examplenow.com/wpa_supplicant/ third, I would test with IPv6 disabled (entirely for the system), regardless of connectivity type; that also means to explicitly disable that failover setup line in your config ipv6_activate_all_interfaces="**YES" jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 10:28:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40367C for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:28:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jb.1234abcd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f43.google.com (mail-vb0-f43.google.com [209.85.212.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BDE0DDE for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f43.google.com with SMTP id fr13so155351vbb.16 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:28:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XYGloHVKiACd3ac78rfrifvFlUJZ9jsiF0L6JxwvhA0=; b=G6I4isNpZy9WGpSL01B3yozH5W948AJ2D6LdLVBToJOmWpe6qQJnSPJYyvlojTFLAz qAFNDOz45MUayesZBNpzBLx7sDb1/NPv1WECjd12KS7UWvIJIYAVLUXJeE0/3J3BYwra IlX/wnNJLSGT0OR+RSsam9OkZmYL+24QzmS/tmAzmL3/eLbLWN118Bb31xKkeXN7NT/C uGt/b1vMrlLH6qfL3wsBifKEXNxGqseCDOu0tcjU/TE2ytfqhWlvlaD720M/KC/gksid b2krzvqEis34SPu9b69wKSo0CoF0bi+ofH9G8O5s01KmHUDiMw5u+HYyZuuxyR+f7sr2 sPEg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.75.105 with SMTP id b9mr388449vdw.28.1359455295991; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:28:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.126.201 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:28:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:28:15 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: dhclient and random disconnects From: J B To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:28:22 -0000 A follow-up: > third, > I would test with IPv6 disabled (entirely for the system), regardless of > connectivity type; > that also means to explicitly disable that failover setup line in your config > ipv6_activate_all_interfaces="**YES" > jb W/r to IPv6 (disable, enable, etc): read man pages for rc.conf(5) and search for ipv6; then set up whatever neccessary in /etc/rc.conf after considering what is in some preset variables in /etc/defaults/rc.conf. Btw, where did you get that "**YES" from in your config line for failover ? ipv6_activate_all_interfaces="**YES" The flag is "YES" or "NO". Also, are you running any firewall on your machine ? jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 10:32:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40564206 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:32:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from corpmail.itlegion.ru (corpmail.itlegion.ru [84.21.226.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B4AAE17 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10080 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2013 14:31:55 +0400 Received: from localhost-artem.itlegion.ru (HELO ?192.168.0.12?) (192.168.0.12) by 84.21.226.211 with SMTP; 29 Jan 2013 14:31:55 +0400 Message-ID: <5107A500.4030902@itlegion.ru> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:31:28 +0400 From: Artem Kuchin Organization: IT Legion User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software raid VS hardware raid References: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:32:01 -0000 29.01.2013 11:54, Michael Powell: > Artem Kuchin wrote: > > > I guess what I'm trying to point out is that low performance wrt software > RAID will stem from other things besides just simply consuming a few CPU > cycles. Today's CPUs have the cycles to spare. I've been using gmirror for > RAID 1 mirrors for a few years now and am happy with this. I have had a few > old drives die and the servers stayed up and online. This allowed me to > defer the actual drive replacement and not have to drop everything and fight > fire. > Thank you everyone for replying. I realize that many other things affect the performance, not only the CPU power. For example, disk IO kernel multithreading is one of the things. But i guess in FBSD 9 it is more or less solved. The server is going to be a web server with many sites and with mysql running on it. Nothing really really heavy. Currently with run all this on our own server with 8 cores and 16GB ram and 3ware raid1 and cpu load is about 5% :) Everything is quick and responsive. I hope to see the same on a software raid. I really don't want to deploy ZFS on a new server where all these site need to migrate because i am kind of "don't fix it if it is not broken" kind of guy. UFS+journaling+softupdates served us well for years and snapshots are available on ufs too. My other concern is what happens when one drive goes down if we use gmirror? Is it completelly transparent and bad drive can be hot swapped while server is running and rebuild started? I am thinking now about gpt+gmirror (including boot and swap) Artem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 11:17:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88AE33E1 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:17:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27FFA1A6 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:17:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.113.121.31] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U07B1-0005dH-Kf; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:08:24 +0100 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r0T98LtY015987; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:08:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id r0T98KJZ015986; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:08:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:08:20 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Ralf Mardorf , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? Message-ID: <20130129090819.GA1372@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <20130129082806.GA2035@holstein.holy.cow> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20130129082806.GA2035@holstein.holy.cow> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 82.113.121.31 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:17:23 -0000 El día Monday, January 28, 2013 a las 10:28:06PM -1000, parv escribió: > in message , > wrote Ralf Mardorf thusly... > > > > Hi :) > > > > I hope it's ok, when I open a new thread for this issue. > > First I need to know what files have a bad owner. > > > > I'm running > > # freebsd-update IDS >> outfile_28Jan2013.ids > > perhaps this will give some useful output, regarding to a wrong owner for > > files from world. > > > > It's still running. > > > > I still have no idea how to check this for the files build from ports. > > If I understand your problem correctly, it is of incorrect owner & > group. If so, are there any problems with just running "chown -R" on > the parent directory (say /usr/local, where ports are installed by > default)? In general, I find all this thread (wrong file owner) a bit boring. This is a mayor damage and can only be repaired by a new installation. A lot of files and directories in the systems filesystem, in / /var /usr, have dedicated owner to allow certain processes which does not run as 'root' to do their correct work there, for exmample 'mail'; i.e. you can not do just a complete "chown -R root .... " and expect that the system still works; the same is true for the ports below /usr/local; just run on a correct system something like: # find /usr/local -exec ls -ld {} \; | fgrep -v root to get a list about what I am talking. HIH matthias -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz | - No system with backdoors like Apple/Android E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 11:21:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375C0845 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:21:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out007b.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out007B.alice-dsl.net [88.44.63.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4DD421D for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:20:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.60]) by smtp-out007b.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:14:41 +0100 Received: from [85.182.20.89] ([85.182.20.89]) by out.alice-dsl.de over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:14:24 +0100 Message-ID: <1359458064.2199.26.camel@precise> Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:14:24 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20130129082806.GA2035@holstein.holy.cow> References: <20130129082806.GA2035@holstein.holy.cow> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.3-0ubuntu6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2013 11:14:24.0836 (UTC) FILETIME=[CBA8F840:01CDFE11] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:21:00 -0000 On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 22:28 -1000, parv wrote: > in message , > wrote Ralf Mardorf thusly... > > > > Hi :) > > > > I hope it's ok, when I open a new thread for this issue. > > First I need to know what files have a bad owner. > > > > I'm running > > # freebsd-update IDS >> outfile_28Jan2013.ids > > perhaps this will give some useful output, regarding to a wrong owner for > > files from world. > > > > It's still running. > > > > I still have no idea how to check this for the files build from ports. > > If I understand your problem correctly, it is of incorrect owner & > group. If so, are there any problems with just running "chown -R" on > the parent directory (say /usr/local, where ports are installed by > default)? > > > - parv It's only the owner and yes, the problem is, that the owner not always is root for important directories. I had to switch the uid for the owner from 1001 to 1000, when I changed the owner for all files from 1001 to 1000, some owners in */bin and */lib directories were accidentally changed too, for what reason ever. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 11:23:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B173902 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:23:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net [88.44.60.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C663D23D for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:23:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.60]) by smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:23:31 +0100 Received: from [85.182.20.89] ([85.182.20.89]) by out.alice-dsl.de over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:23:09 +0100 Message-ID: <1359458589.2199.32.camel@precise> Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? From: Ralf Mardorf To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:23:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20130129090819.GA1372@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <20130129082806.GA2035@holstein.holy.cow> <20130129090819.GA1372@tiny.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.3-0ubuntu6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2013 11:23:09.0980 (UTC) FILETIME=[04AB95C0:01CDFE13] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:23:39 -0000 On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 10:08 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > This is a mayor damage and can only be repaired by a new installation. Perhaps true, but if such a simple mistake can't be fixed, what happens when somebody makes a big mistake? Perhaps more people stay with Linux than other *NIX, regarding to the policy, that issues should be fixed instead of always starting from the beginning. ;)? Of course, if I simply would restore from a dump, it will be less time consuming and it wouldn't annoy you, but I would have the bad feeling, that if ever needed, thinks can't be fixed, I always would have to restore from backups. And what happens, if for what reason ever a backup shouldn't be available? 2 Cents, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 11:31:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C678BC19 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:31:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61971398 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:31:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.113.121.31] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U09Pb-00029w-OD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:31:36 +0100 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r0TBVXWY016309 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:31:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id r0TBVWcZ016308 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:31:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:31:32 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? Message-ID: <20130129113131.GA16297@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <20130129082806.GA2035@holstein.holy.cow> <20130129090819.GA1372@tiny.Sisis.de> <1359458589.2199.32.camel@precise> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1359458589.2199.32.camel@precise> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 82.113.121.31 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:31:38 -0000 El día Tuesday, January 29, 2013 a las 12:23:09PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf escribió: > On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 10:08 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > This is a mayor damage and can only be repaired by a new installation. > > Perhaps true, but if such a simple mistake can't be fixed, what happens > when somebody makes a big mistake? Perhaps more people stay with Linux > than other *NIX, regarding to the policy, that issues should be fixed > instead of always starting from the beginning. ;)? > > Of course, if I simply would restore from a dump, it will be less time > consuming and it wouldn't annoy you, but I would have the bad feeling, > that if ever needed, thinks can't be fixed, I always would have to > restore from backups. And what happens, if for what reason ever a backup > shouldn't be available? A damage like this can only be done with root privs and if you are root you should be careful and think twice before; this is true for any UNIX and Linux type system. matthias -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz | - No system with backdoors like Apple/Android E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 11:45:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9F1DF6 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:45:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E0D63E for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:45:07 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=LVEjUCUrMRmDwoVf7acnDev0rVojaktk9iXp1r20OGo=; b=jDYpFMbOhaqhqD2He3naM8UNuZ+D6c0znIiebMeLVDYruJxivDSEBhpLlSpgMFgEOSQhHSvPYMEYuvJ8C+uOVGtyuGPvezVrQskr1bBzHa+1s+lFqxGKx6bMZ9X7z0hw; Received: from [122.129.203.50] (port=14444 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U09cZ-000tz5-75; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:44:59 -0700 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:44:55 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? Message-ID: <20130129184455.742b28d8@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20130129090819.GA1372@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <20130129082806.GA2035@holstein.holy.cow> <20130129090819.GA1372@tiny.Sisis.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: Ralf Mardorf , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:45:08 -0000 Hi, On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:08:20 +0100 Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=C3=ADa Monday, January 28, 2013 a las 10:28:06PM -1000, parv escribi= =C3=B3: >=20 >=20 > In general, I find all this thread (wrong file owner) a bit boring. I find it very interesting. > This is a mayor damage and can only be repaired by a new > installation. A lot of files and directories in the systems This is what I am doubting. Shouldn't an installation of the world solve this problem? Or are the current owners of a directory ignored when the world is reinstalled? > filesystem, in / /var /usr, have dedicated owner to allow certain > processes which does not run as 'root' to do their correct work > there, for exmample 'mail'; i.e. you can not do just a complete > "chown -R root .... " and expect that the system still works; It cannot get worse. His experience will show also others how robust FreeBSD is in case of failures. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 11:57:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89C7F69 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net [88.44.60.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681046BA for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:57:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.61]) by smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:57:53 +0100 Received: from freebsd ([78.50.20.64]) by out.alice-dsl.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:57:31 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? References: <20130129082806.GA2035@holstein.holy.cow> <20130129090819.GA1372@tiny.Sisis.de> <20130129184455.742b28d8@X220.ovitrap.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:57:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20130129184455.742b28d8@X220.ovitrap.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2013 11:57:32.0021 (UTC) FILETIME=[D1BE1250:01CDFE17] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:57:54 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:44:55 +0100, Erich Dollansky wrote: > It cannot get worse. His experience will show also others how robust > FreeBSD is in case of failures. Indeed. Linux users ask me why I play with FreeBSD. I already could make a list with drawbacks and advantages of both OS. Some of my guesses might be wrong, since I'm a FreeBSD novice, so this list wouldn't be absolutely correct. Regarding to the annoyance, I won't switch the thread regarding to this issue anymore. I'll continue with this thread "Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports?" if this should be ok for the list, if not I can be quiet, no hard feelings. The thread could easily be filtered by most MUAs. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 12:00:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35D3198 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x236.google.com (la-in-x0236.1e100.net [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A486D6 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:00:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id gw10so217351lab.41 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:00:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UDmTFxsqn29Y2/Q6YyRlQs2YNowdfcJEds08YVtXtyg=; b=IEJ7gZ8RrUbdhlFehMg62M+A0kVJ9agE9Hqn18GrfYJHAnZ9d8Zm4m9dVHATgho2CX lkqh00Nv1Esu3nWRyp/5mR8ppAB5l5cRVL140cAhynMkpxb1ZiWGxISICz57M9LqgiRJ XT6T8jQdmNsTu8t4CdfmfmMZ6/qPShYMjo8D+e9HCvQ2K/bdkNAap18IL/vWudtCOavV BigqQUiKOEFkj7gDfHDlrxQF+gCdgSPy5Nyv5aPz37134Et5fsmT1VVFx3EfVF7vxH/l kl5R3N1jTdq+nxm+UunV0+7qtLk0RSTlcyefdDvB81r5OcRZ5D5jeagXolgWEmjPcMnz ohFQ== X-Received: by 10.152.105.103 with SMTP id gl7mr857640lab.41.1359460802151; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.125] (mau.donbass.com. [92.242.127.250]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fj2sm4942162lbb.6.2013.01.29.03.59.59 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:00:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5107B9AB.5090800@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:59:39 +0200 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Mueller Subject: Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice? References: <05.C7.10746.CD537015@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: <05.C7.10746.CD537015@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:00:03 -0000 29.01.2013 04:37, Thomas Mueller: > 28.01.2013 01:57, james: >> I have a 9.1 system with some SATA disks in RAIDZ, upgraded from 9.0. >> >> The disks are all the same type, and I formatted them for FreeBSD and >> put ZFS in a slice covering most of them. >> >> I have seen suggestions for OpenIndiana etc that it is better to let ZFS >> have the whole raw disk and that this can control the way it manages the >> disk writeback mode. > > Responses from Vladimir Kostyrko ^ : > > ^ My home computer is set up in the dedicated mode. No grave difference. > ^ Not even a scratch. > >> Does this apply to FreeBSD and ZFS too? > > ^ No. > >> Presumably the disks are currently FreeBSD-specific. If I used raw >> disks instead of slices, could I read them from a Solaris system too? > > ^ I'm mostly sure you would be able to read disks from Solaris/x86. > ^ However Solaris/Sparc uses another labeling scheme. If you want to be > ^ fully compatible with other system GPT is a better choice. > > Is GPT compatible with Solaris, can Solaris access a GPT disk? Yes. I'm not sure if it can boot off GPT disk but on Solaris zpool automatically creates boundary GPT partition to protect ZFS vdev. > > I tried OpenIndiana installable live USB stick, and my Western Digital > Caviar Green 3 TB hard disk, partitioned with GPT, was not recognized or > readable; same was true for Western Digital My Book Essential 3 TB USB 3.0 > hard disk, also partitioned GPT. This was on amd64 system. Except OI. https://www.illumos.org/issues/208 -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 12:12:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA4F84B for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6837CF for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:12:49 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=wO+w91Ru20ErQey4qvKdMwhytns+WinwNJcQ3R0Thk0=; b=evuN7cT1DFm3bPfEMZupTXPzsCcrDeucFQKXIc5CqMKAdxlYLtgiwriQJHulL+Yd48Q20B1s8mPriRaiaxRW1+xF1393pTlm/8Xw9KFqWD6Z2aCZVq1RgMZ3n0iNO+KG; Received: from [122.129.203.50] (port=10543 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U0A3R-0012jn-D9; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:12:48 -0700 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 19:12:27 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: "Ralf Mardorf" Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? Message-ID: <20130129191227.57ba3619@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20130129082806.GA2035@holstein.holy.cow> <20130129090819.GA1372@tiny.Sisis.de> <20130129184455.742b28d8@X220.ovitrap.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:12:49 -0000 Hi, On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:57:30 +0100 "Ralf Mardorf" wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:44:55 +0100, Erich Dollansky > wrote: > > It cannot get worse. His experience will show also others how robust > > FreeBSD is in case of failures. > > Indeed. Linux users ask me why I play with FreeBSD. I already could > make a list with drawbacks and advantages of both OS. Some of my > guesses might be wrong, since I'm a FreeBSD novice, so this list > wouldn't be absolutely correct. > > Regarding to the annoyance, I won't switch the thread regarding to > this issue anymore. I'll continue with this thread "Re: How to fix a > broken owner for files from world & build from ports?" if this should > be ok for the list, if not I can be quiet, no hard feelings. The > thread could easily be filtered by most MUAs. > just continue. erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 12:26:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A426B22 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052AA871 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:26:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U0AGY-0002b4-MM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:26:18 +0100 Received: from pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.84.117]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:26:18 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:26:18 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: Software raid VS hardware raid Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:25:44 -0500 Lines: 54 Message-ID: References: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> <5107A500.4030902@itlegion.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:26:03 -0000 Artem Kuchin wrote: [snip] > The server is going to be a web server with many sites and with mysql > running on it. Nothing really really > heavy. Currently with run all this on our own server with 8 cores and > 16GB ram and 3ware raid1 > and cpu load is about 5% :) Everything is quick and responsive. I hope > to see the same on a software raid. The controller would be a slight concern. But for what you've described doing I doubt it will be a big deal. The 3Ware may have a faster processor on it than say a generic onboard built-in. But since all we're talking here is a RAID 1 mirror my guess is it may not be a big enough difference to see. Writes will be just as if you are writing to 1 drive, reads will be faster. Maybe that 5% cpu load turns into 6% or 7%. > I really don't want to deploy ZFS on a new server where all these site > need to migrate because i am kind of > "don't fix it if it is not broken" kind of guy. > UFS+journaling+softupdates served us well for years and snapshots > are available on ufs too. I understand; I've only played around with ZFS some on Solaris. I may move in that direction some day, but for now.... > My other concern is what happens when one drive goes down if we use > gmirror? Is it completelly transparent > and bad drive can be hot swapped while server is running and rebuild > started? > I am thinking now about gpt+gmirror (including boot and swap) I've never actually hot-swapped one but I can't see any reason why not. You can't use the gmirror remove directive when a drive has failed, but you do a gmirror forget , swap it, then just do gmirror insert to insert the replaced drive into the mirror. When everything is working as it should gmirror is mostly 'automatic', e.g. after the insert the rebuild just starts. Main thing I appreciated about this is the server stayed up and online after one drive died. My two servers at home are my testbeds to test out things first before doing stuff to the ones at work. I just installed both to 9.1. The difference now is I've used GPT (gpart) and this is new to me. Previously everything was always fdisk and disklabel. Both these machines are setup on one drive at this point and I haven't yet gotten into the mirroring yet. With the old fdisk/disklabel it was simple to just mirror the entire drive itself (slice). The other approach is to mirror partitions. I think I may need to do this as I think this is the way you have to proceed in order to avoid having gpt and gmirror both trying to claim the last sector on the drive (metadata storage). -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 12:43:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D85D95 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:43:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A672494B for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:43:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U0AXk-0003Rc-JW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:44:04 +0100 Received: from pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.84.117]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:44:04 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:44:04 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:43:30 -0500 Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <20130129082806.GA2035@holstein.holy.cow> <20130129090819.GA1372@tiny.Sisis.de> <20130129184455.742b28d8@X220.ovitrap.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:43:49 -0000 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:44:55 +0100, Erich Dollansky > wrote: >> It cannot get worse. His experience will show also others how robust >> FreeBSD is in case of failures. > > Indeed. Linux users ask me why I play with FreeBSD. I already could make a > list with drawbacks and advantages of both OS. Some of my guesses might be > wrong, since I'm a FreeBSD novice, so this list wouldn't be absolutely > correct. >From what I've followed since you've come on the list my impression is you are just experiencing a learning curve with a new OS. There may be many similarities and much carry over from other *Nixes but you still have to work it to learn it. In the past when I've headed into something completely new I mess a lot of things up (foot shooting) for a while. Once it gets past a certain point I give up and reinstall. Then I refer to all the notes I took whilst messing things up so as to not make the same mistakes again. Usually it was a new list and the cycle repeats. Eventually things 'click', you stop making mistakes as well as understand the OS enough now to fix things should they need. After this sysadmin break-in period clears things get much better very fast. You are well on your way. I've been using FreeBSD for 12 years now, but I remember my initial learning curve (it was quite ugly there for a while). But now things are easy, the machines are very stable and reliable. If I don't break them and no hardware fails they just sit there and do their thing. Stick with it for a while and I bet you find your way. [snip] -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 13:05:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487641A1 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:05:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm16.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm16.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9E0A22 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:05:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.55] by nm16.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 13:05:44 -0000 Received: from [217.146.188.168] by tm8.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 13:05:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp136.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 13:05:44 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359464744; bh=RXiQJc+/CDvouPyvUzDDGoKHPx5UraOonRPCfRQAUqc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=YzN7XctJbO8G7c/QuYr5n9YQdx0rw5MyPPfCKMtj2n4IlVNi8GKsGhltrRJX/g6fx9WCRgnaUmSfjMYhr9qaWO0AeP57cwR2Gi9XPjtwNDK8Diwbaknwv0sAe+7jKuCKbcQdsohOQxUe2aK5fIXkSKgkFbc4kAxaw99iOw5WaPw= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 947259.93530.bm@smtp136.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: LkRwtX0VM1mFf7gtAIGG5dUYHmsrxJbOHZ.ylj.la5Bm9eP 9bppCHw3YpkKesN_NMgoxFi7ps4hQv9iJA9C2a48mTvVf_hR25CQjmNd5FaT 9Z1SZ0SJrd533m7QNz2E_VLOStPqRcAtVbzTTpBaiijkxH7JBKuxnT6JlSe5 UOln0MeY.AN02mbkgz7vQRpyHU4_KGz3dCdRecdf7IPFQC39Qt7yVEiCOEdS aoRaAxNTCUJI1d7veOozWCq9LzhLUGQ1CQeVM4vDvLieJt5k9bk8QMVjBqpB 80sjl64XIQAcVLZeP_yIy.LBtqVBiOrbP9SVLUHLEqNpMu2eD4jJ2Gy8Wika A2lR0kTSXe0UQFFYHuL0oHaRQqOa2K_HySdYw_5JoV.XF5p3gd09k3kMJ6G. qkhJs5HcTnxAQIjQQvo2_COCR8zZMJZc1vq9DxZMOUA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@78.50.20.64 with login) by smtp136.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2013 05:05:44 -0800 PST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? References: <20130129082806.GA2035@holstein.holy.cow> <20130129090819.GA1372@tiny.Sisis.de> <20130129184455.742b28d8@X220.ovitrap.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:05:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20130129184455.742b28d8@X220.ovitrap.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:05:54 -0000 I suspect it's less effort to use Thunar and instead of scrolling, as I did before (when I missed some wrong owners), to switch sorting by owner between ascending and descending, to ensure not to miss a bad owner again. I'm surprised, there's no /bin/sh for the backup: /bin # find /usr/TMP4DIFF/bin -ls | sed -e 's%/dir%%g' | awk '{print $5" "$11" "$12" "$13}' > bin.TMP.txt # find /bin -ls | sed -e 's%/dir%%g' | awk '{print $5" "$11" "$12" "$13}' > bin.BSD.txt # diff bin.TMP.txt bin.BSD.txt > bin.DIF.txt # grep rocketmouse bin.DIF.txt > rocketmouse /bin/sh # ls -ld /bin/sh -r-xr-xr-x 1 rocketmouse wheel 142952 Dec 23 18:38 /bin/sh # ls -ld /usr/TMP4DIFF/bin/sh ls: /usr/TMP4DIFF/bin/sh: No such file or directory /lib [snip ... no differences] I anyway will unpack /usr too and take a look at the directories from the backup. I won't bother you with each detail, but report a list of differences, if there should be something very strange. Regards, Ralf -- Sent from my PC while wearing my Relox watch and Iccug handback. If you pay me, product placement for your lemon could be placed here too, just mailto:/dev/nul. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 14:16:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF229B2 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:16:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A6A19E1F for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:16:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.234] by nm13.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 14:16:15 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.100] by tm15.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 14:16:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp137.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 14:16:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359468974; bh=uvuXiP9TUf3O2TzihXZMoootXTmYaHiJ3CoEVMRJlXE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=smCf0ndn1FZCmcjYuFe7WJnPbVWdGGPOhC7IbsKXI7PQnoNpftCi2jJZCRxVh+yOCKyPDCKmlZfJyJLzrfA+hJyNbC0A3L8hLRXe7OQPQkJzEPdu063FbpAwXQ1uja/Mdq0NKay2n4YK2ZVx+PH2yisbrbjqPh80fnel1SXBsTc= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 970005.15413.bm@smtp137.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: MkaOmskVM1nVtdLR8eoF1eSKAF5MLiqGjog5PjQTrPBM6NR CKU1F8gb1eU.RlBT8kQyg9KqgT6IvPPW9ZQcqEsSs7tjxYeWt.ABM5d1aMJs gwt60aI3tKQItd62_lCRCqGLvczGSuoFu2tRub7cDdr3UgVucfvBamXekrFn kJ2wKj.IRu0ccMny8YGOJzSWiTXsbNvheGGP5vp1pPtoK3thOKlh9LPQBHvH h6gAuE4n3EI2Acq5Fsv8XzCDUskXlKd8aw.ceoZYtj7AwLgKazAZomgKcOGE xr4UJVOxgTr3kHTRmfSLBxsZKuVPd7QPIMAtX0SDPdpp3cpQD5I7c2QITbcM Uj8CE9.5ONUzV0vGfw2V5sfHmeEfyedpgzy00373KcU57skVe494YtjUINL. EXpkGMTA_m3FiTScps_zwD9.BLZBi05G2oDs- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@78.50.20.64 with login) by smtp137.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2013 14:16:14 +0000 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: kpneal@pobox.com Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? References: <20130128182726.42db0712.freebsd@edvax.de> <510736DE.4060701@gmail.com> <51073C35.8010602@gmail.com> <20130129135818.GB9985@neutralgood.org> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:16:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20130129135818.GB9985@neutralgood.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:16:25 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:58:18 +0100, wrote: > mtree I was confused, since the existing files only provide directories. Ok, I guess I understand, I can let mtree generate new files using the backup. I anyway need to take care about files that are missing by the backup. Thank you. -- Sent from my PC while wearing my Relox watch and Iccug handback. If you pay me, product placement for your lemon could be placed here too, just mailto:/dev/null. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 14:29:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26C4D1B for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:29:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out02.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out02.alice-dsl.net [88.44.60.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861FBEA6 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.62]) by smtp-out02.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:27:46 +0100 Received: from freebsd ([78.50.20.64]) by out.alice-dsl.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:27:24 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:27:23 +0100 Subject: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? To: "FreeBSD quest" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2013 14:27:24.0436 (UTC) FILETIME=[C1A3B540:01CDFE2C] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:29:59 -0000 > I'm surprised, there's no /bin/sh for the backup: > # ls -ld /bin/sh > -r-xr-xr-x 1 rocketmouse wheel 142952 Dec 23 18:38 /bin/sh > # ls -ld /usr/TMP4DIFF/bin/sh > ls: /usr/TMP4DIFF/bin/sh: No such file or directory This is an error in reasoning :D. I compared the original /bin, with a restore from /usr, so it seems to be /bin, but it is /usr/bin ;). I have to keep the system as it is for at least a day, need to do something different and than I can continue, when I'm refreshed. root@freebsd:/usr/TMP4DIFF/ROOT # ls -l bin/sh -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 142952 Dec 23 18:38 bin/sh :D There definitively is need for a real rest, to avoid mistakes. -- Sent from my PC while wearing my Relox watch and Iccug handback. If you pay me, product placement for your lemon could be placed here too, just mailto:/dev/null. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 14:57:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D13517 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:57:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091C2FFE for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:57:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0TEvVTr027782; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:57:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r0TEvVRn027779; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:57:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:57:31 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Artem Kuchin Subject: Re: Software raid VS hardware raid In-Reply-To: <5107A500.4030902@itlegion.ru> Message-ID: References: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> <5107A500.4030902@itlegion.ru> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:57:31 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:57:32 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: > My other concern is what happens when one drive goes down if we use gmirror? > Is it completelly transparent > and bad drive can be hot swapped while server is running and rebuild started? > I am thinking now about gpt+gmirror (including boot and swap) As far a gmirror is concerned, yes, drives can be removed and new drives inserted while the mirror is running. Hot swap is more of an issue with the hardware. I have not tried it with SATA drives, although I think it should work. The Handbook chapter on gmirror talks about the problems with GPT and GEOM metadata. In short: right now, they conflict. It's possible to mirror GPT partitions, but be aware that if you mirror more than one partition on a drive, a rebuild after replacing a drive could thrash the heads as mirrors are rebuilt simultaneously. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 15:17:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F13DC32 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:17:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yh0-f45.google.com (mail-yh0-f45.google.com [209.85.213.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81C7166 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f45.google.com with SMTP id 24so69934yhr.18 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:17:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsd.com.br; s=capeta; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :organization:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=v/44aNSh4HdVaQgCA8UELTe+PucVD8los+EeQqieW9c=; b=FG3Qb9wEzsTySfSiAABTLQRBCqRJzGlIwh534QxOOF3PDTk8FTCh8zKp8uxsUkWCaM mUuWVl71Fr1Y2C+YJgk33MqkwyRcZNDHUj9EBiXm2wlRsMgG1mPMeTut2ziAQCTKOPzn X6dP32zLE5b9uqMQxrTCcZHhLv+TalIzPruXA= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :organization:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=v/44aNSh4HdVaQgCA8UELTe+PucVD8los+EeQqieW9c=; b=ZT3ZOCAM5+0HkbS/5CocV4RWSvBP5aoZqQnB6HbDk+/YIofIWfjy5uKRf5ZjgKa5KS LzFx/fXb4MiDiHYh4vWRYwUSyoI5GlRg7SS+KqGaHUQZ45B6nm4VgQfQim1z3xSe92UG 0/nIc5qpKbBMCk+R6tqevSt/XewQMofYqC8uXoF3vsdX3IeBKpCCyPd1x1e2psyjHpOO eDG8RVg3wOBPIqACYsMFCnEruE98bYR6Dvvg8WmVpCk36inMkhOgqS1fsoDLPRVKYEjd ZlG67iYjq2r7cmGwnv9+mBIJ0YqLIgFhLCsMgacItY7bdz/14FkYsFGUX4gX6j9j56pD AJhA== X-Received: by 10.101.22.19 with SMTP id z19mr402449ani.69.1359472630711; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:17:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from papi ([187.113.76.217]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z6sm7541455anh.13.2013.01.29.07.17.09 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:17:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:18:52 -0300 From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Booting Problem Message-ID: <20130129121852.03538e59@papi> In-Reply-To: <95407B50-A296-4012-A2C4-014321C48C74@lafn.org> References: <95407B50-A296-4012-A2C4-014321C48C74@lafn.org> Organization: BSD X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm70Vv+y184gOIe84+DkXHXbe8zNqGkxp7QrveqrU+nMcar0434ZrFNam7k4TdZjSxcKxte X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:17:17 -0000 On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:16:14 -0800 Doug Hardie wrote: > I have a relatively old machine that I am trying to boot 9.1 on. The > bios will not boot from USB stick. I am using an external CD drive. > It starts the boot process fine and gets to the Bootstrap loader > message with revision 1.1. Then it puts out the machine, date, time > the CD was created and starts the spinner. It spins around about 2 > times and stops. The system continues to read from the drive for > another couple minutes. Then everything stops. Nothing more happens. > > The CD is good. I can boot it just fine using the same external > drive on another machine. While I could remove the drive and > temporarily mount in in the working machine and build it there, I > would like to find a way to successfully boot from CD. This will > become a remote machine and taking it apart later is not a viable > option. _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Can you boot a different OS (Win, Ububtu, gparted, etc ...) from the same drive on the same machine? -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 15:24:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23484E48 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:24:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@kraus-haus.org) Received: from mail-vc0-f172.google.com (mail-vc0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A2E1E7 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id l6so337535vcl.31 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:24:27 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=0bmP9eda60FNixjeXR35T/X2BlEUShU/qhFIqQ9l+sQ=; b=Gkwh8BC8ajz4oFUJuKlj+36lC7MrKbetwhM7me3qzqagu3O4wHNy3/THLDaSyax1d8 FwU1Hf6ExIRIH6RW6yLzbMA5yF/JpjVOGy4ZUmYFm3gklKR44qWDkh1YesI/dFLYF7nx tN6cLEu5OwGIkdsAcTpwuENOKaF+l7PrgyYoURPPKQH3upWVTV8iDG/3egntnc8DIVvM +orQysNOd8rMqIYOjrHSUw4Jp7QWFfsSP6VpRJveffCF39Vr/MF0wff0zYoK+nFyGGTg SsvFfwtnpjclZ7JXdlsk7uxA4s6SZdOHU8wri42LCd2FB4MZSCF/hkreXhPeBTm5naB4 nD6Q== X-Received: by 10.220.219.9 with SMTP id hs9mr1315118vcb.68.1359473067026; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:24:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mini1.kraus-haus.org ([96.236.21.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cd19sm8587863vdb.20.2013.01.29.07.24.25 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:24:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <05.C7.10746.CD537015@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:24:23 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <05.C7.10746.CD537015@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlcr6Nr/3/3vX4iYqRuzZE3y7Pj5iIs4gRHZ8ZktEPTaxtW1HCU+Y2F2qUxYhjz4umR7V8w X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:24:28 -0000 On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:37 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: >> Presumably the disks are currently FreeBSD-specific. If I used raw >> disks instead of slices, could I read them from a Solaris system too? > > ^ I'm mostly sure you would be able to read disks from Solaris/x86. > ^ However Solaris/Sparc uses another labeling scheme. If you want to be > ^ fully compatible with other system GPT is a better choice. > > Is GPT compatible with Solaris, can Solaris access a GPT disk? AFAIK, none of the Solaris derived OSes can read a GPT disk label. -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 15:30:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542D113D for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:30:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@kraus-haus.org) Received: from mail-vc0-f180.google.com (mail-vc0-f180.google.com [209.85.220.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17337255 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:30:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id fo13so349019vcb.11 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:30:42 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=VHSUEoLJzUnRmd64LrIDQWaGN9vd+uuEnZw0ERjAOBM=; b=WA17bQiVsdf0wjkRpdH67Kvxsuc5fIxleFNlJoIZbkNnvv7G5esdFfakEhO6usOAyr c/qqes8xyxojSa6hrPMOcmidAkIib3m/QZzzT1Gbx1o7NxEzbEeehE/hKsFQQnvsDgZI 4/Ak3THhCjaXr/iBianb3yrAWwJ+Um0ciGhdpWxbB1VESOr8/LvWXVmhv8rGcNVd1qov YVQOh2/I8M4Z9P2cz+kv3iwLF+ixrKpu0sJAM9O+/8YcRQqnWjx7692Jbx8m2WPRYNsF AgnSwegziTiUiAXAbRdBHdWSlvOpd7IjOIskrXSPpNFf5Lb0EgQFlUudl+HBWW4QtRBZ NZ7w== X-Received: by 10.220.209.74 with SMTP id gf10mr1421737vcb.10.1359473442132; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:30:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mini1.kraus-haus.org ([96.236.21.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q13sm8596798vdh.22.2013.01.29.07.30.40 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:30:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <5107B9AB.5090800@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:30:39 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <83FCF7EC-218D-4EFD-AA67-6E0BABF63C0A@kraus-haus.org> References: <05.C7.10746.CD537015@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> <5107B9AB.5090800@gmail.com> To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlJ9qp7W/T3mUtNQUF/osTSuIZgDPHE3CAiM5efhWqpEifNNNnMoTpikvLlHzrw10bySP6x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:30:49 -0000 On Jan 29, 2013, at 6:59 AM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: >>=20 >> Is GPT compatible with Solaris, can Solaris access a GPT disk? >=20 > Yes. I'm not sure if it can boot off GPT disk but on Solaris zpool = automatically creates boundary GPT partition to protect ZFS vdev. Under the Solaris-based OSes I have used*, ZFS creates an = EFI-like disk label, NOT a GPT label. FreeBSD (9.0) will read and use = the EFI-like disk label that ZFS creates (or perhaps it is the ZFS code = that is parsing the disk label). So if you want to move a zpool between = FreeBSD and a Solaris-derived OS, then the safe bet is to give ZFS the = entire disk and let it create the disk label. *Solaris-based OSes that I have used: Solaris 10 OpenSolaris=20 NCP (Nexenta Core Platform) -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 16:44:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B082D7F6 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:44:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from corpmail.itlegion.ru (corpmail.itlegion.ru [84.21.226.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A6923861 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:44:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13189 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2013 20:44:09 +0400 Received: from localhost-artem.itlegion.ru (HELO ?192.168.0.12?) (192.168.0.12) by 84.21.226.211 with SMTP; 29 Jan 2013 20:44:09 +0400 Message-ID: <5107FC3C.4030701@itlegion.ru> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:43:40 +0400 From: Artem Kuchin Organization: IT Legion User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software raid VS hardware raid References: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> <5107A500.4030902@itlegion.ru> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:44:12 -0000 29.01.2013 18:57, Warren Block: > On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: > > The Handbook chapter on gmirror talks about the problems with GPT and > GEOM metadata. In short: right now, they conflict. It's possible to > mirror GPT partitions, but be aware that if you mirror more than one > partition on a drive, a rebuild after replacing a drive could thrash > the heads as mirrors are rebuilt simultaneously. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html > > > So, gmirror+GPT=conflict on last sector GPT+gmirror = hardrive head kill nice... So, for no more than 2TB disks the best way to go is GMIRROR of the drive +PARTITION on top of it? Or maybe there is a way to instruct gmirror do rebuild only what i say (manual rebuild) ? Artem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 17:02:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2CEDFE; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 17:02:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE4A936; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 17:02:35 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:Content-Type; bh=v7D7KvOpkHpqynZxEE86iolddl+ssRzwjEmtth/FiYw=; b=dPS+1sIkzUgR6EqzYSno36m6H3El7bBM4CeG/yE1LGHZ9RjBTY8YaE3iH+z92ujsetTf1Cvi7y25+Ft5yTyEhFAA6hOrCIRBejH/xM6RvYjwRowIYp5lsboa1iRF/Pfd; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1U0EZq-000LF8-Cj; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:02:30 -0600 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpsa id 1359478944-78857-55759/5/1; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 17:02:24 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: Artem Kuchin , Warren Block Subject: Re: Software raid VS hardware raid References: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> <5107A500.4030902@itlegion.ru> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:02:23 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) Cc: pjd@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 17:02:36 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:57:31 -0600, Warren Block wrote: > As far a gmirror is concerned, yes, drives can be removed and new drives > inserted while the mirror is running. Hot swap is more of an issue with > the hardware. I have not tried it with SATA drives, although I think it > should work. > The Handbook chapter on gmirror talks about the problems with GPT and > GEOM metadata. In short: right now, they conflict. It's possible to > mirror GPT partitions, but be aware that if you mirror more than one > partition on a drive, a rebuild after replacing a drive could thrash the > heads as mirrors are rebuilt simultaneously. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html Why isn't gmirror more intelligent? I hate to use Linux as an example, but mdadm won't simultaneously rebuild multiple RAID sets if they use the same physical providers to prevent this. Could this be added as a feature? Even a sysctl toggle? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 20:01:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64C5380 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:01:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7CD2FF for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:01:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-191.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.191]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979702780C; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:01:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0TK1kwS002163; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:01:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:01:46 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Ralf Mardorf" Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? Message-Id: <20130129210146.3745269e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20130128182726.42db0712.freebsd@edvax.de> <510736DE.4060701@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:01:51 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:54:55 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:41:34 +0100, Joshua Isom wrote: > > On 1/28/2013 7:56 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> Still not perfect, I guess I need something similar to ls -RAl for some > >> directories :S and I didn't test what awk will do with names including a > >> space. > > > > Try `find /dir -ls`. You can pipe it into sed like this `find /dir -ls| > > sed -e 's%/dir%%g'` and then get something easily comparable. > > Cool, it does display the path, but there's still the other issue: > > $ touch test\ test > $ find * -ls| sed -e 's%/dir%%g'| awk '{print $5" "$11}' > rocketmouse test > > Perhaps awk isn't that important, but it e.g. will filter different file > sizes, for e.g. configurations I edited in the meantime. A thing regarding awk: For extended formatting, use the printf() command which works the same as in sh and C, os if you need, you can do things like printf "%s '%s'", $1, $2; Also note that you can have a custom delimiter for parsing the input, e. g. -F ":" (if you would generate input lists in :-separated CSV format). Additionally, it seems you're running into the fun of spaces in file names. Even though you can put them there, it doesn't imply it's good to do it. Spaces are separators (for commands and options), and everytime they're _not_ (e. g. when they appear in file names), you need to care for this fact, by escaping or quoting them. Maybe those articles by David A. Wheeler are interesting to you to learn about this annoyance for people writing short shell scripts to automate tasks: Filenames and Pathnames in Shell: How to do it correctly http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/filenames-in-shell.html Fixing Unix/Linux/POSIX Filenames: Control Characters (such as Newline), Leading Dashes, and Other Problems http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/fixing-unix-linux-filenames.html -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 20:10:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F39977 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793AE378 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-191.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.191]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D6A27820; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:10:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0TKAfpP002171; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:10:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:10:41 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Ralf Mardorf Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? Message-Id: <20130129211041.a7989c3b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1359458589.2199.32.camel@precise> References: <20130129082806.GA2035@holstein.holy.cow> <20130129090819.GA1372@tiny.Sisis.de> <1359458589.2199.32.camel@precise> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:10:39 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:23:09 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 10:08 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > This is a mayor damage and can only be repaired by a new installation. > > Perhaps true, but if such a simple mistake can't be fixed, [...] Excuse me, it's not a _simple_ mistake. It may have initially been even a typo, but anything executed with root privileges is not simple; root has the power to do anything, even to completely destroy the system, and that can also be as simple as calling rm or dd with "carefully carelessly crafted options", and there is no simple fix for this. > [...] what happens > when somebody makes a big mistake? The size of the mistake doesn't even matter. :-) > Perhaps more people stay with Linux > than other *NIX, regarding to the policy, that issues should be fixed > instead of always starting from the beginning. ;)? The fix to your issue is, in pseudocode: for part in ( OS , ports ) do: determine owner rocketmouse:* for all files compare with list with correct owner for each deviating file do: if owner != correct owner then: chown file to correct user fi od od Of course OS and ports have to be treated seperately. As you have mentioned to own a backup where the permissions (owners) are correct, obtaining the required reference data from that backup would be the easiest part. The alternative: reinstall world, reinstall ports. To avoid this task, you need to activate your admin skills. :-) > Of course, if I simply would restore from a dump, it will be less time > consuming and it wouldn't annoy you, but I would have the bad feeling, > that if ever needed, thinks can't be fixed, I always would have to > restore from backups. And what happens, if for what reason ever a backup > shouldn't be available? In that case, you would need other references to get the correct file owners. Files are usually installed to the system by the "install" command, and it is employed in the Makefiles for the OS and also for ports. As you correctly recognized, not simply all files belong to root, so everything "non-standard" could be derived from such "control files". Of course, the more files you have to treat (see wc -l of your result list), the harder the task can become, and maybe installing the port again is faster than finding out where permissions are set for the install program call. If you only have 10 files or so, do it manually, but if there are 100 and more files, coming from several different ports, reinstalling them sounds easier, and it's not a big deal to do that with portmaster. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 20:17:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0234ABC4 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm1.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm1.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 188153EE for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:17:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.50] by nm1.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 20:17:52 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.35] by tm3.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 20:17:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp168.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 20:17:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359490672; bh=xzCRlHcZ4ZNrNXgwAaJsfLceC/Ohw3liVjguMa8fWGA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=PJBjvvx//o4UyPMVbdV9n27orrd3+8d8/hFL4m/8Tst+nLGgttWRTtVi0ddCZr+EU6eMzSe53CvGevO1wN7BKZv16KegKJ9doMCCvBan/zZK7caQBh/0mBUesR7Jy9PKo1FeX52bjyHAWS/ngg/HZZQ4ipF2yXd9yqIh4tAsCL4= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 700843.98247.bm@smtp168.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: xakg1boVM1kNCHor_i2m5WXtyXyou0ByH2OrBnjOUU5v.FS tEkav0G_VR9Yny7Vm4BXAgvauVfPmf8FFYfnDz69OBtOz1148hVR_2nRu9e2 LANVNr0ulV_WSPCjGrWRfrv.QkNT97c1oMeEyPdAJiIrtDxFlBkDw2RoARNR 0OufzODh6kM.RneiGfOfMbk0ayooy5xuvJE_p08Fz9oaYQJnoaWYx1J5Y0VT dYpzCCRND1aedbvRR5PqnWVXKcRfpgnBnNVd_UZh13xdeZehzsiULOJVAHjB UCRNyeu3BB.kkpdxvYo7NYW5DTmgCtkU.6nTjOa1ceVxHHqQwvXrlQyBQ.b5 dZ.dnqKWtnQ2rT.rFAMsDWaDBmkBDH0rxnQPTgxd3zr1GuwMqjz8b3B6UOWG .5V9V0bTGxj4W9QWuBhktQNekQk9mVpcuNLB6BDgZDw-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@78.50.20.64 with login) by smtp168.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2013 20:17:52 +0000 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? References: <20130128182726.42db0712.freebsd@edvax.de> <510736DE.4060701@gmail.com> <20130129210146.3745269e.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:17:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20130129210146.3745269e.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:17:56 -0000 I don't use space in filenames, I just wanted to ensure, that file names with spaces will be handled partly correctly. At the moment I'm not working intensively. Every once in a while I take a look at a directory and compare it with the backups. If there's something wrong, I manually run chown. I copy each step I'm doing to a file. Overcautious, without haste and without a script ;), I fix it step by step. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 21:01:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E07736 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:01:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E787E5 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:01:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0TL1GKZ031034; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:01:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r0TL1DqQ031031; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:01:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:01:13 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Artem Kuchin Subject: Re: Software raid VS hardware raid In-Reply-To: <5107FC3C.4030701@itlegion.ru> Message-ID: References: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> <5107A500.4030902@itlegion.ru> <5107FC3C.4030701@itlegion.ru> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:01:16 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:01:17 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: > > 29.01.2013 18:57, Warren Block: >> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: >> >> The Handbook chapter on gmirror talks about the problems with GPT and GEOM >> metadata. In short: right now, they conflict. It's possible to mirror GPT >> partitions, but be aware that if you mirror more than one partition on a >> drive, a rebuild after replacing a drive could thrash the heads as mirrors >> are rebuilt simultaneously. >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html >> >> > > So, > gmirror+GPT=conflict on last sector > GPT+gmirror = hardrive head kill > > nice... > > So, for no more than 2TB disks the best way to go is GMIRROR of the drive > +PARTITION on top of it? GPT partitions should work, just limit it to one mirrored partition per drive. > Or maybe there is a way to instruct gmirror do rebuild only what i say > (manual rebuild) ? 'gmirror configure -n' ? Have not tried it. The trick would be to do that before multiple mirrors start rebuilding, which they will as soon as geom_mirror.ko is loaded. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 21:52:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A5F434 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:52:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-x235.google.com (ia-in-x0235.1e100.net [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c02::235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF59A0B for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:52:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f181.google.com with SMTP id k25so1309091iah.26 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:52:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=5RkO6gyBXQu917t5dEyAkYeW9WNnSNpY9v7KQyUM+nk=; b=wyOgyKSZh5z1UdV719hm9D/jr+WKyh8tCB/M+vFqzgdUnc8Oi4RftXMOqEIxFvtMkw GJaXPoOZJUypDQwKIgeyIg1Y0UXGMxARfqunlTl3u+hCNVD9mjxEPtwrfZkKvq0ifPBY QC8vKBi3r3g8t6AFuprGwftYq+aTSatvX7FSG+u3+DLMjnkBGJ0n4auOVRuWUzyWSyir hUOwJxfQlpV8Xhq3XFfL2FE+xQU4xvxFfRj4eL/9vCfIblcSosgnOTdJXcYPDmXmu0Hb ECqH4PWL5ZYZGOIWVnLbh5tnYAz/ZnHhGbze4a0TGtKgWuKEzcd3piQv+runHSufaSkr a7rA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.170.102 with SMTP id al6mr2116665igc.70.1359496367933; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:52:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.7.113 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:52:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:52:47 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Viewing processes hierarchically From: Patrick To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:52:48 -0000 Is there any way in FreeBSD to view all running processes hierarchically, like Activity Monitor in Mac OS X can do? e.g. http://f.cl.ly/items/37310J17273X3F1E1l0G/Image%202013.01.29%2013:50:36%20.png I believe I have a masked process spawned from an Apache process, but I'm having a hard time tracking it down. Thanks, Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 21:55:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1C2524 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:55:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347DFA41 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:55:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-191.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.191]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A7A3CF0B; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:55:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0TLtnm1002866; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:55:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:55:49 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Patrick Subject: Re: Viewing processes hierarchically Message-Id: <20130129225549.846256cd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:55:48 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:52:47 -0800, Patrick wrote: > Is there any way in FreeBSD to view all running processes hierarchically, > like Activity Monitor in Mac OS X can do? > > e.g. > http://f.cl.ly/items/37310J17273X3F1E1l0G/Image%202013.01.29%2013:50:36%20.png > > I believe I have a masked process spawned from an Apache process, but I'm > having a hard time tracking it down. You can do this with htop, then press PF5. Or use pstree. Both are in ports. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 22:31:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE813ED5 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:31:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3BAC31 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:31:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.17]) by ltcfislmsgpa03.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0TMVkCw021844 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:31:46 -0600 Received: from dtwin (10.242.182.124) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.309.2; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:31:45 -0600 From: Sender: Devin Teske To: "'Patrick'" , "'FreeBSD Questions Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Viewing processes hierarchically Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:31:38 -0800 Message-ID: <018701cdfe70$68852180$398f6480$@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHX4xjjMVm2FlxPfh+w652azhrMjZhNE8+Q Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [10.242.182.124] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-01-29_09:2013-01-29,2013-01-29,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:31:53 -0000 pstree? (in sysutils from ports) -- Devin > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Patrick > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:53 PM > To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List > Subject: Viewing processes hierarchically > > Is there any way in FreeBSD to view all running processes hierarchically, > like Activity Monitor in Mac OS X can do? > > e.g. > http://f.cl.ly/items/37310J17273X3F1E1l0G/Image%202013.01.29%2013:50:36%20. > png > > I believe I have a masked process spawned from an Apache process, but I'm > having a hard time tracking it down. > > Thanks, > > Patrick > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 22:54:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE55356 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:54:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBD1D69 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:54:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id rr4so564649pbb.41 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:54:14 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=x95fmVC/nSQefnXiO++VsJ72R0p1exS73udvgrQ+VL0=; b=SAGGcN44/fc6FvXQtdo03OKL/090T5cAKFxFamgk+DxwcNH3Ew+HZxJm9yOSvWYv8h vBaxr+0M3CIBscrqBPQfZfLvOIlTl+lngzFABOgMeNKQUwhyTkSsv0Fg+0uI1a5Mpv0a dbZK9blIASQ4x31tq4pvsaZ+WwCljXm6Z5yNxtzpHAdsIs/eT0qh0nFHIy8knv75i52H YPc5hbExqDrsefBDJVYH+ic7QKsPaoiwfl1dD0aSfIiEgBuB7fMWX3GCW2Ww+8FhFgbi QMnZxAqI2sWexVmN9A4Ax26ABDMmqI48UJoCXEHKBozBMmv8jD82Gj78797+1q5fwwT+ P1FQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.203.129 with SMTP id kq1mr6612897pbc.30.1359500054658; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:54:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.157.133 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:54:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 17:54:14 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Detail in section 25.2.3.3 of the Handbook From: Alejandro Imass To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkZhT+cUKeVlP1FWX8+kxGTkbVjhcQtTkk5QoW/U5Z0y3Pp6eQKbfQ5WT3WTJQe5Sg8MexP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:54:15 -0000 Maybe it's intentional but in section 25.2.3.3 Rebuilding Ports After a Major Version Upgrade The step that says: portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb Shouldn't it be ruby-bdb without the 18? Is there a reason why it has to be ruby18-bdb Thanks, -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 23:03:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB313754 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:03:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x234.google.com (ie-in-x0234.1e100.net [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90627DDA for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:03:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f180.google.com with SMTP id k11so801529iea.25 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:03:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hjl8GudFpoZE40hSJWp/VRdHNWl6t4QSj3Yz+dqlLIA=; b=hLulzYcuaSdJU5FqIlivI4AmFxB5M0nyMmG62V94jg0d0SkP6PDp7IzS8KGQKqxVko 6SO4UtaOEDkGSzaYMIEXT8V7KuwfDQFIDmYKIae4QEC0pkvQ8Mdtu0Z+wrjXC8kKGnCd a/gDhpGZ1zGRFQgfJY7rIcjEH3UcE958H4TjwD/0PfBYVwLvDz0FvQQpr9ggOcPy8yCI lW0H/t6nLKU5dbQoP9j0jjWNybAbfSKsTwPCX0ENfvRo7aa5SyMDnsCVSFKwRYpESRe6 AI9+pjyixEq8+RCOr0Te+LeceH4etBAbfS4EKbaGqb/zloOk+JQ4hxvUqu4fecRZjCR6 6mVg== X-Received: by 10.42.81.148 with SMTP id z20mr1847411ick.5.1359500581355; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:03:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.14] (c-98-212-197-211.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.212.197.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b13sm3569351igp.7.2013.01.29.15.03.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:03:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5108551A.3070708@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 17:02:50 -0600 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Viewing processes hierarchically References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:03:01 -0000 On 1/29/2013 3:52 PM, Patrick wrote: > Is there any way in FreeBSD to view all running processes hierarchically, > like Activity Monitor in Mac OS X can do? > > e.g. > http://f.cl.ly/items/37310J17273X3F1E1l0G/Image%202013.01.29%2013:50:36%20.png > > I believe I have a masked process spawned from an Apache process, but I'm > having a hard time tracking it down. > > Thanks, > > Patrick What about `ps dax`? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 23:04:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F3B809; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:04:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gezeala@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f178.google.com (mail-lb0-f178.google.com [209.85.217.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B83DDF7; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:04:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f178.google.com with SMTP id n1so1378135lba.23 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:04:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=NA+BXlh7JeNxt3ifqcvomvUUKRdt2L9i6neUY0323NM=; b=ORQ1G735z8C2QZ3UzNLwkJh2sQZA664JFRTe7m7LJAE5SHZKPpi0bZj/FWe6HKEyW/ IiYhhlt4YD0GXHxQUapTAXI/fOmnh+dscEb+1cnnZmog+tQIFISf9mtUJKTg3T0Z1Be7 80hzJc/IfQ55WtBeJ3RRYihHTYs9UZJ0h8CO6Rgqud5DcFUCJFkuDw1tjU6QyMtjbMXg kTF5S3WKNcSKwHOIZVSmepDbNjr2QksJ05CYfmR1J4XRc4Jvil/EURDYIvh/V+yR6Z/d 1xjPjz9SP2t2FxpV0p3q2CLwXVcPC2AxbGWjP1SqESNnXJB/f4SHm2wp18yfmcuDkbU+ Ooxw== X-Received: by 10.112.101.230 with SMTP id fj6mr1090308lbb.115.1359500686795; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:04:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.11.36 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:03:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <018701cdfe70$68852180$398f6480$@freebsd.org> References: <018701cdfe70$68852180$398f6480$@freebsd.org> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gezeala_M=2E_Bacu=F1o_II?= Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:03:59 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Viewing processes hierarchically To: dteske@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: Patrick , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:04:49 -0000 On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:31 PM, wrote: > pstree? (in sysutils from ports) > -- > Devin > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Patrick > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:53 PM > > To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List > > Subject: Viewing processes hierarchically > > > > Is there any way in FreeBSD to view all running processes hierarchicall= y, > > like Activity Monitor in Mac OS X can do? > > > > e.g. > > > http://f.cl.ly/items/37310J17273X3F1E1l0G/Image%202013.01.29%2013:50:36%2= 0 > . > > png > > > > I believe I have a masked process spawned from an Apache process, but I= 'm > > having a hard time tracking it down. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Patrick > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _____________ > The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or > confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete t= he > message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the messa= ge > in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, plea= se > be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving > and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ps auxwwd man ps: -d Arrange processes into descendancy order and prefix each > command > with indentation text showing sibling and parent/child > relation=E2=80=90 > ships. If either of the -m and -r options are also used, th= ey > control how sibling processes are sorted relative to each > other. > Note that this option has no effect if the =E2=80=9Ccommand= =E2=80=9D column is > not the last column displayed. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 23:25:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC01DEC for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:25:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519A4EF1 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:25:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0TNPgt3032283; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:25:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r0TNPguG032280; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:25:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:25:42 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Alejandro Imass Subject: Re: Detail in section 25.2.3.3 of the Handbook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:25:42 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:25:43 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Alejandro Imass wrote: > Maybe it's intentional but in section > > 25.2.3.3 Rebuilding Ports After a Major Version Upgrade > > The step that says: > > portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb > > Shouldn't it be ruby-bdb without the 18? > > Is there a reason why it has to be ruby18-bdb That's a good point. It should probably be the origin, databases/ruby-bdb. I don't have a way to test that right now. But really, it ought to be rewritten to use ports-mgmt/portmaster to remove the dependency issue entirely. In fact, that could just refer to the upgrade process at the end of the portmaster(8) man page. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 23:35:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D3A9B for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:35:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-pa0-f46.google.com (mail-pa0-f46.google.com [209.85.220.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93598F49 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:35:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id kp14so695096pab.19 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:35:31 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=49fNjMzZy+KLdCENhCYgDxb30A5nrT6ObIFvqhmGOQ4=; b=S9Hsmn0p2P/29MKH+ALYAD7aWziLxphGP1aCiUdyT4lldWmgLOF3YY5MxT3YDq+IkA 340erRof7YWPzlN1gLAw6E6/MNBuP/ra/B5zfuif2qk0GJ897wr9qsDY3vfNZY25LYw4 koSuGctDB1PsEw86dpp8XndnjreDn5JlgW7+Jyu9qhF8nAuG94MCh3sNwLtadqYkQyRy Yjiob0teYmsuygMS6bC0Q0YZcC47gNe8OD6emADr/Pyqsxqe7etRmOHPuMdmViNoTILi B2yY+u6k6XyueTpYEbntIsMEyEPFQIGvWLLhj5cCtr1ZqN6sXIxfVWt+qG3dL5gGmnxx N2zA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.226.230 with SMTP id rv6mr6815332pbc.90.1359502517206; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:35:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.157.133 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:35:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:35:17 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Detail in section 25.2.3.3 of the Handbook From: Alejandro Imass To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnkTA4XW3/ok2btIp1Y9WqqctOv3/Ya1GNnBxMQuG0kjMVgQRvkfH/SanXX0z+aE4jPzkff Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:35:37 -0000 On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Alejandro Imass wrote: > >> Maybe it's intentional but in section >> >> 25.2.3.3 Rebuilding Ports After a Major Version Upgrade >> >> The step that says: >> >> portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb >> >> Shouldn't it be ruby-bdb without the 18? >> >> Is there a reason why it has to be ruby18-bdb > > > That's a good point. It should probably be the origin, databases/ruby-bdb. > I don't have a way to test that right now. > > But really, it ought to be rewritten to use ports-mgmt/portmaster to remove > the dependency issue entirely. In fact, that could just refer to the > upgrade process at the end of the portmaster(8) man page. I had *a lot* of issues with this procedure using portupgrade. I assumed it was because the system was very old and I was upgrading from 7.0 to 9.1, although I tried in every step to upgrade the ports and failed (i.e. 7.1, 8.1, 8.2, 9.1). I wound up pkg_delete -a -f . I was going to re-install everything in Jails anyway so I was happy to delete all ports from the base sys. I can say however that the upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 9.1-RELEASE went very smoothly with freebsd-update, but as I mentioned above, I did it in steps. Thanks for your prompt reply! -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 00:34:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA59CEA for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 00:34:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD14F237 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 00:34:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:34:42 -0800 Message-ID: <51086A9F.6090809@a1poweruser.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 19:34:39 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: /etc/rc.d/jail script References: <51073BCE.3070406@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <51073BCE.3070406@a1poweruser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2013 00:34:42.0367 (UTC) FILETIME=[9856BCF0:01CDFE81] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 00:34:47 -0000 Fbsd8 wrote: > I have noticed that the /etc/rc.d/jail script > will not start a jail that has the same ip address > as a jail that is already running. > > But if I define 2 jails the manual way in rc.conf that > have the same ip address they will start. > > So is this a bug in the "jail" script or is there some > reason for this restriction? > > On deeper inspection of the /etc/rc.d/jail script, it seems the above only occurs if one or more jails are assigned the same ip address and one or more of the jails bound the shared ip address to a NIC device name. IE the auto creation and deletion of ip address aliases. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 03:08:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACAE78CA for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:08:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4DE994 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (pool-98-112-217-228.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [98.112.217.228]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r0U38bkG025599 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 19:08:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Subject: Re: Booting Problem Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <20130129121852.03538e59@papi> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 19:08:37 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <95407B50-A296-4012-A2C4-014321C48C74@lafn.org> <20130129121852.03538e59@papi> To: Mario Lobo X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:08:47 -0000 On 29 January 2013, at 07:18, Mario Lobo wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:16:14 -0800 > Doug Hardie wrote: > >> I have a relatively old machine that I am trying to boot 9.1 on. The >> bios will not boot from USB stick. I am using an external CD drive. >> It starts the boot process fine and gets to the Bootstrap loader >> message with revision 1.1. Then it puts out the machine, date, time >> the CD was created and starts the spinner. It spins around about 2 >> times and stops. The system continues to read from the drive for >> another couple minutes. Then everything stops. Nothing more happens. >> >> The CD is good. I can boot it just fine using the same external >> drive on another machine. While I could remove the drive and >> temporarily mount in in the working machine and build it there, I >> would like to find a way to successfully boot from CD. This will >> become a remote machine and taking it apart later is not a viable >> option. _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To >> unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Can you boot a different OS (Win, Ububtu, gparted, etc ...) from the > same drive on the same machine? Not so far. The drive works fine on other systems. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 04:19:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA38373 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:19:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lyris-noreply@lyris.sunbelt-software.com) Received: from lyris.sunbelt-software.com (lyris.sunbelt-software.com [66.129.99.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C867FC13 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:19:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: X-lyris-type: match-phrase From: "Lyris ListManager" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: No Attachments Please Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:48:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:19:37 -0000 You sent an email to the Exchange list with an attachment. We have disabled this option as recently a virus was attached. Please resend your posting without it? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 04:28:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19A4486 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:28:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B8ACBB for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0U4Pleo044737; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:25:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id r0U4PkFl044733; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:25:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:25:46 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Doug Hardie Subject: Re: Booting Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <95407B50-A296-4012-A2C4-014321C48C74@lafn.org> <20130129121852.03538e59@papi> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:25:48 -0500 (EST) Cc: Mario Lobo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:28:45 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Doug Hardie wrote: > On 29 January 2013, at 07:18, Mario Lobo wrote: > >> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:16:14 -0800 >> Doug Hardie wrote: >> >>> I have a relatively old machine that I am trying to boot 9.1 on. The >>> bios will not boot from USB stick. I am using an external CD drive. >>> It starts the boot process fine and gets to the Bootstrap loader >>> message with revision 1.1. Then it puts out the machine, date, time >>> the CD was created and starts the spinner. It spins around about 2 >>> times and stops. The system continues to read from the drive for >>> another couple minutes. Then everything stops. Nothing more happens. >>> >>> The CD is good. I can boot it just fine using the same external >>> drive on another machine. While I could remove the drive and >>> temporarily mount in in the working machine and build it there, I >>> would like to find a way to successfully boot from CD. This will >>> become a remote machine and taking it apart later is not a viable >>> option. What is the system you are using? What external devices does it have built-in support for? In the absence of any data - how about trying an external hard drive? Why not remove the hard drive, use another system to put FreeBSD on the drive, and put it back. From that point on you should be able to use the network to upgrade. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 04:47:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3119375F for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:47:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7600D4A for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U0Paa-0000wL-Vi for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 05:48:00 +0100 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 05:48:00 +0100 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 05:48:00 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Delete /var/db/pkg.bak? Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:47:29 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 10 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:47:46 -0000 Admittedly disk space is cheap, but old habits die hard and I just don't like keeping stuff I no longer need. I converted to pkgng just under a couple of months ago, and have had no serious problems (even the minor issues have been promptly resolved with the kind and able assistance of Matthew Seaman). I have no intention of trying to 'go back', so my question is this: Is it safe now to clear out the pkg.bak file which was created by pkg2ng at the time of conversion? I'm almost sure it is, but just want to make certain. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 07:00:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1D5DB9 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:00:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7229519C for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0U70iML056512 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:00:44 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.7.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r0U70iML056512 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/r0U70iML056512; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (insecure policy) Message-ID: <5108C515.3070005@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:00:37 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Delete /var/db/pkg.bak? References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="----enig2WXKUDSVNEULBRODTMRRD" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:00:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2WXKUDSVNEULBRODTMRRD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 30/01/2013 04:47, Walter Hurry wrote: > Admittedly disk space is cheap, but old habits die hard and I just don'= t=20 > like keeping stuff I no longer need. >=20 > I converted to pkgng just under a couple of months ago, and have had no= =20 > serious problems (even the minor issues have been promptly resolved wit= h=20 > the kind and able assistance of Matthew Seaman). >=20 > I have no intention of trying to 'go back', so my question is this: Is = it=20 > safe now to clear out the pkg.bak file which was created by pkg2ng at t= he=20 > time of conversion? I'm almost sure it is, but just want to make certai= n. Um... it's probably OK, but you're really the only person in a position to know, given it's your system. Given that you have been actively maintaining your systems using pkgng for several months, the pkg.bak file will not contain any record of the changes made in that time. That makes it increasingly irrelevant. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey ------enig2WXKUDSVNEULBRODTMRRD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEIxRwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIy22gCfbJfK6wnzHs6YvE3nTsmaYvik YrkAniP9/KVCs2feSA8xYKengG8gF7S2 =J0fz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------enig2WXKUDSVNEULBRODTMRRD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 08:18:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB94EB3 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:18:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ea0-f179.google.com (mail-ea0-f179.google.com [209.85.215.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0037E6D6 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f179.google.com with SMTP id d12so540002eaa.10 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 00:18:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=naqMSFYLBjLpwZUUeZkCcKBNH5p7HX2lU1TU9GM9kMI=; b=hqPmms4AWBXmqw/imtwiwjlWaj6/BzrchQkm0wMLJhtIOU0lk913TogOXbziR0bM0z BmwFSWgv1t2zfujCGCaIKiGAzPFo62rnzyaC4zcIUiMnxPfetCzVrtKGIv175sIeagU7 eUzpjtIgca2Gdm0rlLy+GFFelZGG5236YzlBcbRfK/1gfTMmOAOgOr5QBnoIg0B8G0Gu 5DzPYCn3hdl47j87yWAgtebsYwaDq2OYA9lKGL3b5jBdCLUwuMthnQZb3CSCM62yKn9D iUMa2urmZOxVFZ3oPI1Q83RRnr1mJJbKKS9riPiowrDz8np8wBWZpeL7D+mCAP3aSKiO TDXA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.14.198.198 with SMTP id v46mr12891328een.4.1359533932990; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 00:18:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.183.135 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 00:18:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5107A500.4030902@itlegion.ru> References: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> <5107A500.4030902@itlegion.ru> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 01:18:52 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Software raid VS hardware raid From: Modulok To: Artem Kuchin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:18:54 -0000 > My other concern is what happens when one drive goes down if we use > gmirror? Is it completelly transparent > and bad drive can be hot swapped while server is running and rebuild > started? > I am thinking now about gpt+gmirror (including boot and swap) > > Artem > Yes. In fact, you can test this by unplugging the data or power cable to a drive while the server is running. I've done this with consumer sata drives and, so far, not had a problem. The server stays up and running and disk access is not interrupted. I can then plug in a new disk and add it to the gmirror and the array rebuilds. I've not tried this with gpt, so I can't comment there. -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 08:48:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06BB25B0 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:48:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A0781D for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:48:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (pool-98-112-217-228.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [98.112.217.228]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r0U8mWhA033299 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 30 Jan 2013 00:48:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Subject: Re: Booting Problem Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 00:48:31 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <95407B50-A296-4012-A2C4-014321C48C74@lafn.org> <20130129121852.03538e59@papi> To: doug@safeport.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Mario Lobo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:48:39 -0000 On 29 January 2013, at 20:25, doug@safeport.com wrote: >=20 > On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Doug Hardie wrote: >=20 >> On 29 January 2013, at 07:18, Mario Lobo wrote: >>=20 >>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:16:14 -0800 >>> Doug Hardie wrote: >>>=20 >>>> I have a relatively old machine that I am trying to boot 9.1 on. = The >>>> bios will not boot from USB stick. I am using an external CD = drive. >>>> It starts the boot process fine and gets to the Bootstrap loader >>>> message with revision 1.1. Then it puts out the machine, date, = time >>>> the CD was created and starts the spinner. It spins around about 2 >>>> times and stops. The system continues to read from the drive for >>>> another couple minutes. Then everything stops. Nothing more = happens. >>>>=20 >>>> The CD is good. I can boot it just fine using the same external >>>> drive on another machine. While I could remove the drive and >>>> temporarily mount in in the working machine and build it there, I >>>> would like to find a way to successfully boot from CD. This will >>>> become a remote machine and taking it apart later is not a viable >>>> option. >=20 > What is the system you are using? What external devices does it have = built-in support for? In the absence of any data - how about trying an = external hard drive? 9.1 release - Generic. Basically the disk1. Don't have an extra = external drive. >=20 > Why not remove the hard drive, use another system to put FreeBSD on = the drive, and put it back. =46rom that point on you should be able to = use the network to upgrade. I have done that before and it does work. However, with the various = changes to the system, the root partition I had previously built that = way for 8.2 is just not large enough for 9.1. Also, I wanted to go to a = single partition (the 9.1 default). Probably freebsd-update will take = me through major releases after this, but I was hoping for a better = solution so I could avoid having to transport the machine a long way = twice to be able to update it. >=20 >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 10:13:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243BDB97 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-x234.google.com (mail-ia0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c02::234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC39DCD5 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:13:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f180.google.com with SMTP id f27so2094940iae.11 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 02:13:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QTJUAQq/ksUCJ5dOXgC2a05xMbnCSkzIPYHWk9lJ2yU=; b=PoooHK/MyVkLKA+pjOu0i4YC6DfwE25xsqdV3rT3Knx2MThT9L5F5EeOEoR1Ze3mSS oVaFVrt2nQYSX0WuMP6cZ1xa2JAR03PiQj5Kq/HLi9wTjOlBhzYpcURi8SN9mEdSOV7K KlOlj2G/YXurBRRFhkeVEdhtqhmc6ijG8LzyVQvNolWbqiOavIPHqDUGPDX4X65/js9L 7fZu2H91LxlAhVKZcE9s4FWBMtk92nYK618Z6FXRDYdaZzOB9RZ7sXMm8mMFzMF7HaEj 6fUMsa0FWyETKmxl/BbUFsF3I0PSc4c1neWWtvBePlwk7AsKRUugvUA57rlK49HtJ1qJ ojXQ== X-Received: by 10.42.54.5 with SMTP id p5mr2710720icg.49.1359540837359; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 02:13:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.14] (c-98-212-197-211.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.212.197.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ig8sm389606igc.10.2013.01.30.02.13.55 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Jan 2013 02:13:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5108F259.8040708@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:13:45 -0600 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Booting Problem References: <95407B50-A296-4012-A2C4-014321C48C74@lafn.org> <20130129121852.03538e59@papi> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:13:58 -0000 On 1/29/2013 10:25 PM, doug@safeport.com wrote: > > What is the system you are using? What external devices does it have > built-in support for? In the absence of any data - how about trying an > external hard drive? > > Why not remove the hard drive, use another system to put FreeBSD on the > drive, and put it back. From that point on you should be able to use the > network to upgrade. > I had to do something like this to try out PC-BSD years ago. I had one computer that wouldn't boot the install CD. I moved the hard drive to a computer that would boot the install CD. The catch was the computer that could boot the install CD wouldn't boot PC-BSD from the hard drive. Sometimes you just find hardware that doesn't behave. I'd also double check your BIOS settings for USB emulation. Most external CD drives are just an IDE or SATA drive with an adapter. If you take it apart, you can put the drive into the computer and see if skipping the USB helps it to boot. It's also a nice way to find a cheap drive. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 11:13:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B37B37 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrisikeshsahu@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f179.google.com (mail-ob0-f179.google.com [209.85.214.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9E0FD3 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:13:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f179.google.com with SMTP id un3so1489335obb.10 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:13:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=GLiJ+ZTSfYZFfm1sWzeV6TLEeH3GFrRSe6N1HOwAwY8=; b=de18lRG4frapx9LxcdHcuApiGGWeXCZxNt9umJS9zufH2ZAcawbQ0/3pdzGeVUgbBt SiKLq+PHCgxh3F4KYys4TDvlTn+cVsh9jaZPTSCb1glq27RRb9G3vXeN/6/wia7MIBsZ ubmZFHOuBFXiFAXz39A8Li6oP1J+WwBBvPsHdvra5Wb1XYb5zH8Q5dJnSLqC5YWOWQTD ehzusYNi3c0KuA+vSqETvXcnf1ILi19nDvzqYJOdsCIxljzeclwgh+iJat4KTRzfw2Gp 9elXtShO6rWz+oPnmJIRayzzF8qynL3gHYCZ7SV2iHLge4rPo4g0tzDB/tJf8beWH9iW i/0g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.43.103 with SMTP id v7mr3294583obl.17.1359544405516; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:13:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.102.69 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:13:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:43:25 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Network PHY driver source code From: Hrisikesh sahu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:13:26 -0000 Hi all, Could you guide me where I can find all the supported PHY driver source code details ? I want to know what are the PHY drivers supported within Freebsd 9.1 Release. Please help me on this. Regards Hrisikesh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 11:43:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297752AA for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:43:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from corpmail.itlegion.ru (corpmail.itlegion.ru [84.21.226.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4154B1B9 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:43:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20718 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2013 15:42:58 +0400 Received: from localhost-artem.itlegion.ru (HELO ?192.168.0.12?) (192.168.0.12) by 84.21.226.211 with SMTP; 30 Jan 2013 15:42:58 +0400 Message-ID: <51090721.2010606@itlegion.ru> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:42:25 +0400 From: Artem Kuchin Organization: IT Legion User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block Subject: Re: Software raid VS hardware raid References: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> <5107A500.4030902@itlegion.ru> <5107FC3C.4030701@itlegion.ru> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:43:08 -0000 30.01.2013 1:01, Warren Block: > On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: > >> >> 29.01.2013 18:57, Warren Block: >>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: >>> >>> The Handbook chapter on gmirror talks about the problems with GPT >>> and GEOM metadata. In short: right now, they conflict. It's >>> possible to mirror GPT partitions, but be aware that if you mirror >>> more than one partition on a drive, a rebuild after replacing a >>> drive could thrash the heads as mirrors are rebuilt simultaneously. >>> >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html >>> >>> >> >> So, >> gmirror+GPT=conflict on last sector >> GPT+gmirror = hardrive head kill >> >> nice... >> >> So, for no more than 2TB disks the best way to go is GMIRROR of the >> drive +PARTITION on top of it? > > GPT partitions should work, just limit it to one mirrored partition > per drive. Please, clarify what you mean here. > >> Or maybe there is a way to instruct gmirror do rebuild only what i >> say (manual rebuild) ? > > 'gmirror configure -n' ? Have not tried it. The trick would be to do > that before multiple mirrors start rebuilding, which they will as soon > as geom_mirror.ko is loaded. > As i understand from the man page -n setup the device not to auto rebuild ever. So, this is probably the thing i want. I need to setup a test system and play with it a bit. Artem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 13:01:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C60D962 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:01:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31262883 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:01:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Footer: b3NlLm5s Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:01:48 +0100 Message-ID: <510919AD.2090203@ose.nl> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:01:33 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network PHY driver source code References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:01:57 -0000 On 01/30/2013 12:13 PM, Hrisikesh sahu wrote: > Hi all, > Could you guide me where I can find all the supported PHY driver source > code details ? > I want to know what are the PHY drivers supported within Freebsd 9.1 > Release. > > Please help me on this. > > Regards > Hrisikesh Hi My guess: /usr/src/sys/dev/mii From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 13:16:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193E8E16 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:16:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07BA9929 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:16:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 30 Jan 2013 05:16:27 -0800 Message-ID: <51091D28.3080908@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:16:24 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Hardie Subject: Re: Booting Problem References: <95407B50-A296-4012-A2C4-014321C48C74@lafn.org> <20130129121852.03538e59@papi> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2013 13:16:27.0325 (UTC) FILETIME=[029DDED0:01CDFEEC] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: Mario Lobo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:16:27 -0000 Doug Hardie wrote: > On 29 January 2013, at 07:18, Mario Lobo wrote: > >> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:16:14 -0800 >> Doug Hardie wrote: >> >>> I have a relatively old machine that I am trying to boot 9.1 on. The >>> bios will not boot from USB stick. I am using an external CD drive. >>> It starts the boot process fine and gets to the Bootstrap loader >>> message with revision 1.1. Then it puts out the machine, date, time >>> the CD was created and starts the spinner. It spins around about 2 >>> times and stops. The system continues to read from the drive for >>> another couple minutes. Then everything stops. Nothing more happens. >>> >>> The CD is good. I can boot it just fine using the same external >>> drive on another machine. While I could remove the drive and >>> temporarily mount in in the working machine and build it there, I >>> would like to find a way to successfully boot from CD. This will >>> become a remote machine and taking it apart later is not a viable >>> option. _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To >>> unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> Can you boot a different OS (Win, Ububtu, gparted, etc ...) from the >> same drive on the same machine? > > Not so far. The drive works fine on other systems. > > You said in your orginal post "The bios will not boot from USB stick." I see no reason why you would think your PC would BOOT from any USB attached devices. Since you have another PC that does boot off of usb cd drive, swap hard drives and use that pc to load FreeBSD to the hard drive. This method will work for you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 13:21:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31F2F11 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:21:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78E996B for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:21:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 30 Jan 2013 05:21:02 -0800 Message-ID: <51091E10.1050600@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:20:16 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rasel Ahmed Subject: Re: http://localhost/phpmyadmin References: <67427CAB-BC28-47E7-8583-89A30BD03CF4@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <67427CAB-BC28-47E7-8583-89A30BD03CF4@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2013 13:21:02.0722 (UTC) FILETIME=[A6C41E20:01CDFEEC] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:21:02 -0000 Rasel Ahmed wrote: > Please help me what the applied host in website ? > > Sent from my iPhone You have to provide details of your problem before some one can help you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 13:30:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE4E2C1 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:30:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from smtp.eutelia.it (mp1-smtp-6.eutelia.it [62.94.10.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95ADE9E1 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:30:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ns2.biolchim.it (ip-188-188.sn2.eutelia.it [83.211.188.188]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eutelia.it (Eutelia) with ESMTP id 1BD6A6469E9 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:10:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-245-240.41-151.net24.it [151.41.240.245]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns2.biolchim.it (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0UDAQF2081231 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:10:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.6/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0UDAF4l091063 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:10:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <51091BB7.6090302@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:10:15 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130110 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software raid VS hardware raid References: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> In-Reply-To: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 on 10.1.2.13 X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ns2.biolchim.it [192.168.2.203]); Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:10:29 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Score: 5.118 (*****) BAYES_50, RCVD_IN_PBL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL, RDNS_DYNAMIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:30:06 -0000 On 01/28/13 21:43, Artem Kuchin wrote: > I am planning to use mirror configuration of two SATA 7200rpm 2TB disks. I personally vote for gmirror in this case; I've used it a lot and found it very good wrt to both performance and robustness. You can spend the extra money you spare on the controller buying good disks; as someone else pointed out don't get "desktop-class" ones, but "24x7" ones. Just my 2c. bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 13:43:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035E379D for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:43:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrisikeshsahu@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f170.google.com (mail-vc0-f170.google.com [209.85.220.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B651AA9C for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:43:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f170.google.com with SMTP id p16so1011139vcq.1 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 05:43:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/YTt1bWPtbwB/xcF9Q2ZFT2G7BNIcsZAouYQ6Et/S8o=; b=eItyMEk3Q7wBt33+ND0UmepI6UFHgrFPGhvA4tGdBl5HueBsnlWhvB0Rns0P4I+vBv G3yTT7UHbfgWQOvsCEaS1BCXL/Hg2ko0XseQNAJKfkWGRkMlqItHFyrI6t8coV6BIkjU YtbJ55wi1B5Fk7vEJnaJmSdPlAVzgO7vtWjaxG+0MHUPxvKVXCX10kd4AH8kHJQKZr1W uFDKINBYw7mSbKtyiQHsQ+YNrkHLmLUvh3eHmdi9IZIWjkjmzdGOXAMTetT6tbBer8DN DEvxZ4Pa01x0nI3z8Pm1v6Apyc/76bTYRLP92VSOlbQHy4PlUXg/SgYBdztubskMNhk7 b+og== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.59.13.197 with SMTP id fa5mr529793ved.47.1359553413427; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 05:43:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.26.78 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 05:43:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <510919AD.2090203@ose.nl> References: <510919AD.2090203@ose.nl> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:13:33 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Network PHY driver source code From: Hrisikesh sahu To: Bas Smeelen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:43:40 -0000 Thanks a lot for quick reply. There is no file within /usr/src folder. Could you please tell me how to get those source files for freebsd 9.1 release? On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote: > On 01/30/2013 12:13 PM, Hrisikesh sahu wrote: > >> Hi all, >> Could you guide me where I can find all the supported PHY driver source >> code details ? >> I want to know what are the PHY drivers supported within Freebsd 9.1 >> Release. >> >> Please help me on this. >> >> Regards >> Hrisikesh >> > > Hi > My guess: /usr/src/sys/dev/mii > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** > unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 14:06:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21AF0A60 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A8CBDC for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:06:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0UE6jYv038020; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:06:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r0UE6jHB038017; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:06:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:06:45 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Artem Kuchin Subject: Re: Software raid VS hardware raid In-Reply-To: <51090721.2010606@itlegion.ru> Message-ID: References: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> <5107A500.4030902@itlegion.ru> <5107FC3C.4030701@itlegion.ru> <51090721.2010606@itlegion.ru> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:06:45 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:06:46 -0000 On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: > > 30.01.2013 1:01, Warren Block: >> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: >> >>> >>> 29.01.2013 18:57, Warren Block: >>>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: >>>> >>>> The Handbook chapter on gmirror talks about the problems with GPT and >>>> GEOM metadata. In short: right now, they conflict. It's possible to >>>> mirror GPT partitions, but be aware that if you mirror more than one >>>> partition on a drive, a rebuild after replacing a drive could thrash the >>>> heads as mirrors are rebuilt simultaneously. >>>> >>>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html >>>> >>> >>> So, >>> gmirror+GPT=conflict on last sector >>> GPT+gmirror = hardrive head kill >>> >>> nice... >>> >>> So, for no more than 2TB disks the best way to go is GMIRROR of the drive >>> +PARTITION on top of it? >> >> GPT partitions should work, just limit it to one mirrored partition per >> drive. > > Please, clarify what you mean here. If only one GPT partition on a drive is mirrored with another GPT partition on another drive, head contention never comes up. There is only one mirror. It does nearly eliminate the usefulness of GPT partitioning. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 14:32:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A268283 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:32:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from corpmail.itlegion.ru (corpmail.itlegion.ru [84.21.226.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B5D0ED72 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:32:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21821 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2013 18:32:12 +0400 Received: from localhost-artem.itlegion.ru (HELO ?192.168.0.12?) (192.168.0.12) by 84.21.226.211 with SMTP; 30 Jan 2013 18:32:12 +0400 Message-ID: <51092ECA.6070808@itlegion.ru> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:31:38 +0400 From: Artem Kuchin Organization: IT Legion User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block Subject: Re: Software raid VS hardware raid References: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> <5107A500.4030902@itlegion.ru> <5107FC3C.4030701@itlegion.ru> <51090721.2010606@itlegion.ru> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:32:17 -0000 30.01.2013 18:06, Warren Block: > On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: > >> >> 30.01.2013 1:01, Warren Block: >>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> 29.01.2013 18:57, Warren Block: >>>>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The Handbook chapter on gmirror talks about the problems with GPT >>>>> and GEOM metadata. In short: right now, they conflict. It's >>>>> possible to mirror GPT partitions, but be aware that if you mirror >>>>> more than one partition on a drive, a rebuild after replacing a >>>>> drive could thrash the heads as mirrors are rebuilt simultaneously. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html >>>>> >>>> >>>> So, >>>> gmirror+GPT=conflict on last sector >>>> GPT+gmirror = hardrive head kill >>>> >>>> nice... >>>> >>>> So, for no more than 2TB disks the best way to go is GMIRROR of the >>>> drive +PARTITION on top of it? >>> >>> GPT partitions should work, just limit it to one mirrored partition >>> per drive. >> >> Please, clarify what you mean here. > > If only one GPT partition on a drive is mirrored with another GPT > partition on another drive, head contention never comes up. There is > only one mirror. > > It does nearly eliminate the usefulness of GPT partitioning. > Um... and how can i do that if i have a simple mirror with two drives and want to mirror everything on them? As i understand i will have at least bootable, swap and ufs parttions on those drives, that is 3 partitions at least. Artem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 14:42:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7926CB for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:42:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F709E03 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:42:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Footer: b3NlLm5s Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:42:23 +0100 Message-ID: <51093140.9090806@ose.nl> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:42:08 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network PHY driver source code References: <510919AD.2090203@ose.nl> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:42:26 -0000 On 01/30/2013 02:43 PM, Hrisikesh sahu wrote: > Thanks a lot for quick reply. > There is no file within /usr/src folder. > > Could you please tell me how to get those source files for freebsd 9.1 > release? > You didn't install the sources when installing FreeBSD? For 9.1-RELEASE i386 you can get the sources from ftp://ftp.nl.freebsd.org/mirror/FreeBSD/releases/i386/9.1-RELEASE/src.txz for instance or the amd64 sources from ftp://ftp.nl.freebsd.org/mirror/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/9.1-RELEASE/src.txz Then unpack with tar xf src.txc The result is usr/src unpacked in your current directory, move src to /usr/src > > > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote: > >> On 01/30/2013 12:13 PM, Hrisikesh sahu wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> Could you guide me where I can find all the supported PHY driver source >>> code details ? >>> I want to know what are the PHY drivers supported within Freebsd 9.1 >>> Release. >>> >>> Please help me on this. >>> >>> Regards >>> Hrisikesh >>> >> Hi >> My guess: /usr/src/sys/dev/mii >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 15:04:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAD77A for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:04:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@kraus-haus.org) Received: from mail-ve0-f179.google.com (mail-ve0-f179.google.com [209.85.128.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E40CF43 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:04:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f179.google.com with SMTP id da11so43225veb.10 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:04:48 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=GGDbBnJwvEvTFUVbsOq5L8rwxyh4vNg9D9T/GMpBwDU=; b=SJn6GiqApo+R6Ex1IaXn0kIFoz7Uk7YImXZnIcbcIV8xLjlBQ3qkA+F8toDBD505nt 6ZZLU/PA6rBTLC8c1u77DWm3smKBqHsrh2NU10yDQf1ADisJiNT5VXMo9YqKTucn8Pc7 Zf2q/4Ntx/ROt87ZlptzD7s0SZZXHmDUhFyUv1836al9TnVE4C9TuttEnUxchx0Xx9ME NP2Fm/vY+A7khfwAb1z3H3K+l204c3GURMFQqSvr5/pA9A5x8euAcra9qOZ4l0dGr2Lk Qh/KEJjXdHDogUBpByx0rt9lEpQqh5EwCl6KfEOlO0U42hdAa2zgXhy+ds9nq+CSKX3l BrZA== X-Received: by 10.221.10.5 with SMTP id oy5mr4963946vcb.74.1359557887201; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:58:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mini1.kraus-haus.org ([96.236.21.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o6sm1406358vdd.11.2013.01.30.06.58.05 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:58:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Software raid VS hardware raid Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <51091BB7.6090302@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:58:04 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0D8A188B-6DD8-4218-9923-92DAAC786AB0@kraus-haus.org> References: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> <51091BB7.6090302@netfence.it> To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlUgtC3ADHinxdt3EBJAWo8RUdbqXPTBQ2+06QbRTRKyuBPUCUaNiWoKKdDS2GC/Z/AnuIe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:04:54 -0000 On Jan 30, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > You can spend the extra money you spare on the controller buying good = disks; as someone else pointed out don't get "desktop-class" ones, but = "24x7" ones. Server Class drives buy you some improvement, but my recent experience = with Seagate Barracuda ES.2 drives is not that good. I have had 50% of = them fail within the 5-year warranty period. My disks run 24x7 and I use = ZFS under FreeBSD 9 so I have not lost any data. I have: 2 x Seagate ES.2 250 GB (one has failed) 4 x Seagate ES.2 1 TB (two have failed) 2 x Hitachi UltraStar 1 TB (pre-WD acquisition), no failures, but they = are less than 2 years old. They are also noticeably faster than the = Seagate ES.2 I just ordered 2 x WD RE4 500 GB, we'll see how those do I go out of my way to purchase disks with a 5-year warranty, they are = still out there but you have to look for them. -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 15:19:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DED125A for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:19:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from corpmail.itlegion.ru (corpmail.itlegion.ru [84.21.226.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 45A71FBF for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22253 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2013 19:19:13 +0400 Received: from localhost-artem.itlegion.ru (HELO ?192.168.0.12?) (192.168.0.12) by 84.21.226.211 with SMTP; 30 Jan 2013 19:19:13 +0400 Message-ID: <510939D0.1030906@itlegion.ru> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:18:40 +0400 From: Artem Kuchin Organization: IT Legion User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software raid VS hardware raid References: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> <5107A500.4030902@itlegion.ru> <5107FC3C.4030701@itlegion.ru> <51090721.2010606@itlegion.ru> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:19:16 -0000 There seems to be one more advantage to gmirror If i understood correctly gmirror label -v -b split -s 2048 data da0 da1 da2 will create a tripple mirror raid 1, that is triple redundancy, which is hardly available on any hardware raid. Am i correct here? Also, does anyone know how to choose split threshold (-s 2048) correctly ? Artem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 15:22:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9AE5FA for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D26F7C for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0UFMJQ7038682; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:22:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r0UFMJ4q038679; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:22:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:22:19 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Artem Kuchin Subject: Re: Software raid VS hardware raid In-Reply-To: <51092ECA.6070808@itlegion.ru> Message-ID: References: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> <5107A500.4030902@itlegion.ru> <5107FC3C.4030701@itlegion.ru> <51090721.2010606@itlegion.ru> <51092ECA.6070808@itlegion.ru> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:22:19 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:22:23 -0000 On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: > 30.01.2013 18:06, Warren Block: >>>> >>>> GPT partitions should work, just limit it to one mirrored partition per >>>> drive. >>> >>> Please, clarify what you mean here. >> >> If only one GPT partition on a drive is mirrored with another GPT partition >> on another drive, head contention never comes up. There is only one >> mirror. >> >> It does nearly eliminate the usefulness of GPT partitioning. >> > Um... and how can i do that if i have a simple mirror with two drives and > want to mirror everything on them? As i understand i will have at least > bootable, swap and ufs parttions on those drives, that is 3 partitions at > least. If you want to use the same drive for booting, it's possible. Create all three partitions on both drives manually. Then mirror the freebsd-ufs partition only. The contents of the freebsd-boot partition don't change often, and swap does not have to be mirrored. Not that it's easy or convenient, but it's an option. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 15:28:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7DD8EC for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:28:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@kraus-haus.org) Received: from mail-vc0-f174.google.com (mail-vc0-f174.google.com [209.85.220.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A476FDB for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:28:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f174.google.com with SMTP id n11so1056328vch.19 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:28:31 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=+sP+gBtGt9p4ubXjNQ45vR8YsE27fxmlde0hj3EiVUQ=; b=l+pqaoZHQcuyabKdDQrZfmxij0gGa3VM739IXrg7+KgBMNzXu4gECijqeB+7SDUa6L 8XOQccNXHIbTh0chnLnMLBDoRI1fkQnahz0o0Y8EawlKxwt8Nk5ntb+H5rbUhruv6O6w sonZMPU9f7rl3gIwr3XKoCEE9R+i4xRkIbvGrn9hdUyKANdoiiTC6aNfJG2Mf1HoYfZs 1sC7HbxdB5Ck3eX3XuyyPHBeFFRWJkQCFG9rsEMoAuQmG881PNurkO771j8VFiWHuQDy sLj6buZTD7RT+v1qFr5L4dzDcriwAKVUTJphFT8wFmjrYXefNc3M2gljBZ9/jGRWRqwM UTPQ== X-Received: by 10.221.11.205 with SMTP id pf13mr5037179vcb.70.1359559710990; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:28:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mini1.kraus-haus.org ([96.236.21.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bj15sm1490355vdc.7.2013.01.30.07.28.29 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:28:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Software raid VS hardware raid Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:28:27 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> <5107A500.4030902@itlegion.ru> <5107FC3C.4030701@itlegion.ru> <51090721.2010606@itlegion.ru> <51092ECA.6070808@itlegion.ru> To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm6TNXriJzd6c9bY5OD7quxPFb0Um0SbJpzaP1obQDkP5+tIwXyxUavMnVHpimVH5Ok0X+Q X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:28:38 -0000 On Jan 30, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Warren Block wrote: > If you want to use the same drive for booting, it's possible. Create = all three partitions on both drives manually. Then mirror the = freebsd-ufs partition only. The contents of the freebsd-boot partition = don't change often, and swap does not have to be mirrored. Note that if you do NOT mirror SWAP, then in the event of a disk = failure you will most likely crash when the system tries to swap in some = data from the failed drive. If you mirror swap then you do not risk a = crash due to missing swap data. -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 15:34:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CECCA34 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from corpmail.itlegion.ru (corpmail.itlegion.ru [84.21.226.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DDAE12D for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:34:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22350 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2013 19:34:50 +0400 Received: from localhost-artem.itlegion.ru (HELO ?192.168.0.12?) (192.168.0.12) by 84.21.226.211 with SMTP; 30 Jan 2013 19:34:50 +0400 Message-ID: <51093D79.5010209@itlegion.ru> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:34:17 +0400 From: Artem Kuchin Organization: IT Legion User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Kraus Subject: Re: Software raid VS hardware raid References: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> <5107A500.4030902@itlegion.ru> <5107FC3C.4030701@itlegion.ru> <51090721.2010606@itlegion.ru> <51092ECA.6070808@itlegion.ru> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:34:56 -0000 30.01.2013 19:28, Paul Kraus: > On Jan 30, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Warren Block wrote: > >> If you want to use the same drive for booting, it's possible. Create all three partitions on both drives manually. Then mirror the freebsd-ufs partition only. The contents of the freebsd-boot partition don't change often, and swap does not have to be mirrored. > Note that if you do NOT mirror SWAP, then in the event of a disk failure you will most likely crash when the system tries to swap in some data from the failed drive. If you mirror swap then you do not risk a crash due to missing swap data. > > yes, that's what i wanted to say. Also, not being able to boot if first disk has some error in boot section or just strangly dead is not an option too. However, i was just thinking, if i use gmirror then bios does not know anything about it. I may set both harddisk as boot disk, but if first disk is brain damaged then bios may just stuck trying to boot from it and will not pass boot attempt to the second disk. I don't know, it depends on bios of course. But this seems to be a disadvantage to a software raid. Artem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 16:15:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBBC15B for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:15:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD6A3D6 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:15:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0UGFKmM039131; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:15:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r0UGFKh4039128; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:15:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:15:20 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Artem Kuchin Subject: Re: Software raid VS hardware raid In-Reply-To: <51093D79.5010209@itlegion.ru> Message-ID: References: <5106E301.4070707@itlegion.ru> <5107A500.4030902@itlegion.ru> <5107FC3C.4030701@itlegion.ru> <51090721.2010606@itlegion.ru> <51092ECA.6070808@itlegion.ru> <51093D79.5010209@itlegion.ru> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:15:20 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:15:26 -0000 On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: > Also, not being able to boot if first disk has some error in boot > section or just strangly dead is not an option too. However, i was > just thinking, if i use gmirror then bios does not know anything about > it. I may set both harddisk as boot disk, but if first disk is brain > damaged then bios may just stuck trying to boot from it and will not > pass boot attempt to the second disk. I don't know, it depends on bios > of course. But this seems to be a disadvantage to a software raid. That's true. The similar situation with hardware RAID is when the controller fails. The metadata is probably specific to that manufacturer and maybe to that model of controller. It's a good idea to get spares, because as Murphy is my witness, in an emergency that controller will not be available in the same town, district, country, or continent. More likely it will have been long discontinued, with no data migration path. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 18:26:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3600E5B for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:26:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jean-luc.blanc@st.com) Received: from eu1sys200aog107.obsmtp.com (eu1sys200aog107.obsmtp.com [207.126.144.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08243DA8 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:26:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.dmz-eu.st.com ([164.129.1.35]) (using TLSv1) by eu1sys200aob107.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP ID DSNKUQllzRIq7jyUSwD+/rdjQk4DxpzyGqPN@postini.com; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:26:29 UTC Received: from zeta.dmz-eu.st.com (zeta.dmz-eu.st.com [164.129.230.9]) by beta.dmz-eu.st.com (STMicroelectronics) with ESMTP id B2CCDCD for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:08:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from Webmail-eu.st.com (safex1hubcas6.st.com [10.75.90.73]) by zeta.dmz-eu.st.com (STMicroelectronics) with ESMTP id 664A656B5 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:08:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SAFEX1MAIL3.st.com ([10.75.90.7]) by Safex1hubcas6.st.com ([10.75.90.73]) with mapi; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:08:07 +0100 From: Jean-Luc BLANC To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:08:06 +0100 Subject: Supported Hardware list update request. Thread-Topic: Supported Hardware list update request. Thread-Index: Ac3/EHYuzNT4+59TT8u+mS3vWP3Ccw== Message-ID: Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: fr-FR, en-US Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_004_C56FB217EE26FF4AB56DA86C1AB6A272396E4B95E9SAFEX1MAIL3st_"; type="multipart/alternative" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:26:30 -0000 --_004_C56FB217EE26FF4AB56DA86C1AB6A272396E4B95E9SAFEX1MAIL3st_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I would like to know the process to have a new version of hardware product = listed in this page: http://bsssd.sourceforge.net/hardware.html#hardware Our TPM is fully compliant with the current driver provided as a module wit= h latest FreeBSD 9.1. Best Regards, ________________________________ Jean-Luc BLANC TPM Application engineer Applications team Secure Microcontrollers Division (SMD) Microcontrollers, Memories & Secure microcontrollers (MMS) Group [cid:image001.jpg@01CDFF18.B99414C0] STMicroelectronics 190 Av Celestin Coq - ZI 13106 ROUSSET cedex FRANCE * +33 4 42 68 84 72 6 +33 4 42 68 87 29 * jean-luc.blanc@st.com --_004_C56FB217EE26FF4AB56DA86C1AB6A272396E4B95E9SAFEX1MAIL3st_-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 20:00:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C925D38 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:00:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA531E5 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:00:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (pool-98-112-217-228.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [98.112.217.228]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r0UK0pMG047202 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:00:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Subject: Re: Booting Problem Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <51091D28.3080908@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:00:51 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <95407B50-A296-4012-A2C4-014321C48C74@lafn.org> <20130129121852.03538e59@papi> <51091D28.3080908@a1poweruser.com> To: Fbsd8 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Mario Lobo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:00:56 -0000 On 30 January 2013, at 05:16, Fbsd8 wrote: > Doug Hardie wrote: >> On 29 January 2013, at 07:18, Mario Lobo wrote: >>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:16:14 -0800 >>> Doug Hardie wrote: >>>=20 >>>> I have a relatively old machine that I am trying to boot 9.1 on. = The >>>> bios will not boot from USB stick. I am using an external CD = drive. >>>> It starts the boot process fine and gets to the Bootstrap loader >>>> message with revision 1.1. Then it puts out the machine, date, = time >>>> the CD was created and starts the spinner. It spins around about 2 >>>> times and stops. The system continues to read from the drive for >>>> another couple minutes. Then everything stops. Nothing more = happens. >>>>=20 >>>> The CD is good. I can boot it just fine using the same external >>>> drive on another machine. While I could remove the drive and >>>> temporarily mount in in the working machine and build it there, I >>>> would like to find a way to successfully boot from CD. This will >>>> become a remote machine and taking it apart later is not a viable >>>> option. _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To >>>> unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> Can you boot a different OS (Win, Ububtu, gparted, etc ...) from the >>> same drive on the same machine? >> Not so far. The drive works fine on other systems. >>=20 >=20 > You said in your orginal post "The bios will not boot from USB stick." > I see no reason why you would think your PC would BOOT from any USB = attached devices. >=20 > Since you have another PC that does boot off of usb cd drive, swap = hard drives and use that pc to load FreeBSD to the hard drive. This = method will work for you. Yes that works now. But starting this weekend it will be about 100 = miles away. That no longer will be practical. >=20 >=20 >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 20:12:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90CC3B2 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:12:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C8128B for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:12:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0UKCu0W029185; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:12:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id r0UKCuK2029182; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:12:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:12:56 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Booting Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <95407B50-A296-4012-A2C4-014321C48C74@lafn.org> <20130129121852.03538e59@papi> <51091D28.3080908@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:12:56 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:12:57 -0000 On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Doug Hardie wrote: > > On 30 January 2013, at 05:16, Fbsd8 wrote: > >> Doug Hardie wrote: >>> On 29 January 2013, at 07:18, Mario Lobo wrote: >>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:16:14 -0800 >>>> Doug Hardie wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have a relatively old machine that I am trying to boot 9.1 on. The >>>>> bios will not boot from USB stick. I am using an external CD drive. >>>>> It starts the boot process fine and gets to the Bootstrap loader >>>>> message with revision 1.1. Then it puts out the machine, date, time >>>>> the CD was created and starts the spinner. It spins around about 2 >>>>> times and stops. The system continues to read from the drive for >>>>> another couple minutes. Then everything stops. Nothing more happens. >>>>> >>>>> The CD is good. I can boot it just fine using the same external >>>>> drive on another machine. While I could remove the drive and >>>>> temporarily mount in in the working machine and build it there, I >>>>> would like to find a way to successfully boot from CD. This will >>>>> become a remote machine and taking it apart later is not a viable >>>>> option. _______________________________________________ >>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To >>>>> unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> Can you boot a different OS (Win, Ububtu, gparted, etc ...) from the >>>> same drive on the same machine? >>> Not so far. The drive works fine on other systems. >>> >> >> You said in your orginal post "The bios will not boot from USB stick." >> I see no reason why you would think your PC would BOOT from any USB attached devices. >> >> Since you have another PC that does boot off of usb cd drive, swap hard >> drives and use that pc to load FreeBSD to the hard drive. This method will >> work for you. > > Yes that works now. But starting this weekend it will be about 100 miles > away. That no longer will be practical. The CD will not be of much help then either. The problem started with the root partition being too small. Just repartition to make sure that does not come up for a while. While you have you hands of the machine you should see if you can figure out if it can do a pixe boot. You should also see if you can arrange for a serial console into the system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 21:36:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6AD77F for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 21:36:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58A1833 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 21:36:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r0ULUN3B008318 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:30:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <510990EF.9040101@dreamchaser.org> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:30:23 -0700 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121116 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: 9.1 install wipes out gpart boot blocks? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:30:24 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 21:36:47 -0000 I used gpart to set up a new disk, then went through a 9.1 install. Everything seemed to go fine, but when time came to boot the new drive, it wouldn't boot. When doing the 9.1 install, I selected the disk and had to assign the partitions to the various filesystems. AFIK, I did not otherwise modify the filesystems. Does the 9.1 install process trash the boot areas? My gpart setup was: clean up (delete) the original partitions gpart destroy ada3 gpart create -s GPT ada3 gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr ada3 gpart add -t freebsd-boot -i 1 -s 512K -l gptboot ada3 gpart bootcode -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ada3 gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -b 1M -s 4G -i 2 -l fbsdroot ada3 # / gpart add -t freebsd-swap -a 4K -s 2G -i 3 -l fbsdswap ada3 # swap gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -s 2G -i 4 -l fbsdvar ada3 # /var gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -s 2G -i 5 -l fbsdtmp ada3 # /tmp gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -i 6 -l fbsdusr ada3 # /usr newfs /dev/ada3p2 # / newfs -U -b 4096 -g 8192 -i 1024 /dev/ada3p4 # /var newfs -U /dev/ada3p5 # /tmp newfs -U /dev/ada3p6 At this point: gpart show -l ada3 => 34 488397101 ada3 GPT (232G) 34 1024 1 gptboot (512k) 1058 6 - free - (3.0k) 1064 8388608 2 fbsdroot (4.0G) 8389672 4194304 3 fbsdswap (2.0G) 12583976 4194304 4 fbsdvar (2.0G) 16778280 4194304 5 fbsdtmp (2.0G) 20972584 467424544 6 fbsdusr (222G) 488397128 7 - free - (3.5k) The / /var and /usr partitions seem to have been written properly. Do I simply need to rewrite the boot areas, or is something more fundamental screwed up? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 30 22:03:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE01C4CE for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FBF989 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:03:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 30 Jan 2013 17:02:35 -0500 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BXH92483; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:02:34 -0500 Received: from 209-6-84-183.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.84.183]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 30 Jan 2013 17:02:31 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20745.39017.915990.597481@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:02:17 -0500 To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Subject: 9.1 install wipes out gpart boot blocks? In-Reply-To: <510990EF.9040101@dreamchaser.org> References: <510990EF.9040101@dreamchaser.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 22) "Instant Classic" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:03:37 -0000 Gary Aitken writes: > I used gpart to set up a new disk, > then went through a 9.1 install. > Everything seemed to go fine, but when time came to boot the new drive, > it wouldn't boot. While the "it wouldn't boot" is catastrophically imprecise, I had what sounds like a similar problem about a month ago. I installed from the 9.0 CD and everything appeared to go correctly. However, on final re-boot the loader couldn't identify the root partition. The solution was to identify the disks using the GPT labels in fstab. Check the archive of questions@ for more details. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 31 00:20:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D194E1 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 00:20:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BEC3EB4 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 00:20:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0V0KWfD042884; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:20:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r0V0KWVU042881; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:20:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:20:32 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Gary Aitken Subject: Re: 9.1 install wipes out gpart boot blocks? In-Reply-To: <510990EF.9040101@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: References: <510990EF.9040101@dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:20:33 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 00:20:35 -0000 On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Gary Aitken wrote: > I used gpart to set up a new disk, > then went through a 9.1 install. > Everything seemed to go fine, but when time came to boot the new drive, > it wouldn't boot. What did it say? > When doing the 9.1 install, > I selected the disk and had to assign the partitions to the various filesystems. > AFIK, I did not otherwise modify the filesystems. > > Does the 9.1 install process trash the boot areas? > > My gpart setup was: > > clean up (delete) the original partitions > gpart destroy ada3 These two steps can be replaced with gpart destroy -F ada3 > gpart create -s GPT ada3 > gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr ada3 > gpart add -t freebsd-boot -i 1 -s 512K -l gptboot ada3 > gpart bootcode -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ada3 I do the bootcode in one step: gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ada3 > gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -b 1M -s 4G -i 2 -l fbsdroot ada3 # / > gpart add -t freebsd-swap -a 4K -s 2G -i 3 -l fbsdswap ada3 # swap > gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -s 2G -i 4 -l fbsdvar ada3 # /var > gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -s 2G -i 5 -l fbsdtmp ada3 # /tmp > gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -i 6 -l fbsdusr ada3 # /usr It's not necessary to use partition numbers with "add", gpart will just use the next one available. Here are my notes: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 31 00:33:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F109706 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 00:33:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm21-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm21-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.108.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 92412F4D for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 00:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.56] by nm21.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2013 00:31:43 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.100] by tm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2013 00:31:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp137.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2013 00:31:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359592303; bh=NC/nygpRdW7ISBV8Qy8B2ZGpVEDgvN7SgTF7pOp7mfc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:Date:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:User-Agent; b=vA76VHD7hA5p7BeoChYCcfAX/V4BinPf84l9FO5EBlDKw3UFOOuO5RoClhMc33ZajK7M5NKMTDxxngVQRJaGNK/3ua0tp3yFHm+sQzUy2ZZolxQLAsN/jLc5DdW8YXOTKXxS3+DJZa5HC4faCT2Uv1bZYdMA83Di3aEojdbLtbg= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 198750.1075.bm@smtp137.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: .cGicy8VM1kwN17Y.04zLW7lKKsFMnOpPlL1fub64LaGLbX xrbYAhHTwIKzARWKZiV_BZ9h14LvuQzTst5hIWU6vpoFa7jVKjbiEYj.HIBu uH3wGU9Ge5xVJj.gsPOoQKQLnZn95Z65d9ATUI.1Av0K.Jg_nMMP5kts35KY OXPMkbaY0iat6z1clPa0WTmUqwiSqYCnB.JdGcCfYuvYFfq1jt5J3Jwzlsvi mrYGheulcJgRYF_84EexnILKwJwleTuMMAHPGTKnsE6dBPx1ThbNa8qX7KEP f6hq7wctOEuFGNmwmoYE9tusCRvh1is4M3gYNMgYg1_wpxWgiP8ymmxO23CB aJlK1VgujGk6YlPoPwAIO27FY.9An_rCkqA861z2PAnUPLLoLJKuS_o_WKea oEnfRFV0bmdxD0R9PXA7GTXnFTeaekPjazWvGChX7yHU4XRMNFA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@92.224.208.209 with login) by smtp137.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 2013 00:31:43 +0000 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 01:31:42 +0100 Subject: [solved] How to fix a broken owner for files from world & build from ports? To: "FreeBSD quest" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 00:33:38 -0000 It were > 20 directories/files with a wrong owner. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 31 01:07:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0B6CF2 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 01:07:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29F8C5 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 01:07:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r0V17GJ0008873; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:07:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <5109C3C4.7060304@dreamchaser.org> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:07:16 -0700 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121116 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Huff Subject: Re: 9.1 install wipes out gpart boot blocks? [solved] References: <510990EF.9040101@dreamchaser.org> <20745.39017.915990.597481@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <20745.39017.915990.597481@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:07:16 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 01:07:28 -0000 On 01/30/13 15:02, Robert Huff wrote: > > Gary Aitken writes: > >> I used gpart to set up a new disk, >> then went through a 9.1 install. >> Everything seemed to go fine, but when time came to boot the new drive, >> it wouldn't boot. > > While the "it wouldn't boot" is catastrophically imprecise, I knew I'd get hammered on that :-) Screen goes blank, spinner spins maybe two notches, then just sits there. So gptboot isn't even started. > I > had what sounds like a similar problem about a month ago. > I installed from the 9.0 CD and everything appeared to go > correctly. However, on final re-boot the loader couldn't identify > the root partition. > The solution was to identify the disks using the GPT labels in > fstab. > Check the archive of questions@ for more details. Found the archive, didn't really help. However, I did rewrite both boot areas and that solved the problem: gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr ada3 gpart bootcode -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ada3 So apparently the 9.1 installer wipes out at least the boot code in partition 1. Since the spinner went a few notches, I suspect the primary boot block is ok, but it crashed when it can't execute the gptboot code. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 31 03:05:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60BE0D68 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 03:05:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A506D6 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 03:05:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r0V35k0n009166; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:05:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <5109DF8B.3030109@dreamchaser.org> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:05:47 -0700 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121116 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block Subject: Re: 9.1 install wipes out gpart boot blocks? References: <510990EF.9040101@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:05:47 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 03:05:58 -0000 On 01/30/13 17:20, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Gary Aitken wrote: >> clean up (delete) the original partitions >> gpart destroy ada3 > > These two steps can be replaced with > gpart destroy -F ada3 I prefer doing it piecemeal to see what's happening when along the way. >> gpart create -s GPT ada3 >> gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr ada3 >> gpart add -t freebsd-boot -i 1 -s 512K -l gptboot ada3 >> gpart bootcode -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ada3 > > I do the bootcode in one step: > gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ada3 Again, I prefer incremental steps so it's more obvious what any diagnostics are referring to, if they should appear. >> gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -b 1M -s 4G -i 2 -l fbsdroot ada3 # / >> gpart add -t freebsd-swap -a 4K -s 2G -i 3 -l fbsdswap ada3 # swap >> gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -s 2G -i 4 -l fbsdvar ada3 # /var >> gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -s 2G -i 5 -l fbsdtmp ada3 # /tmp >> gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -i 6 -l fbsdusr ada3 # /usr > > It's not necessary to use partition numbers with "add", gpart will just use the next one available. True, but if things get out of order for some reason, then you have a mess. > Here are my notes: > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html Thanks, already read that and bookmarked it quite a while ago. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 31 04:48:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256AFCC6 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 04:48:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jguojun@sbcglobal.net) Received: from nm20.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm20.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3B9A14 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 04:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.94.237.192] by nm20.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2013 04:48:42 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.115] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2013 04:48:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1020.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2013 04:48:42 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 767241.68274.bm@omp1020.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 36319 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Jan 2013 04:48:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1359607722; bh=PdOOZjEMK3wPVWlP5RHI2Ov1YTm0AOaKBf7q7MI3USA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VKLFIBY4mdvW8ZeGj7rWYxkntM3uVLvdEB0+q5Zelbs7jJ8Vu17K1Rcw//MsdL/vDloZHADckAC8XJeMxGxDxgQ4LeyUT89XAAqjmdMf0xsNNI9VzDu4xeVdk2XZEO8RLCGmYuvKzQIHpd2UOqFjDu8wOiYpfrgvL7r9ous8VKQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eoixcik1h38liXdTiTh+Ay1x4A2hBO26KCyGkxR5YOedn2fpn6YSffsp5Ntqx+1aCIYNhsWQgueLl35RaINt2VnavZlo3fxEi/hwmVHVI8d6y515jxbxZ3aPHEhL8cF0QbuChZ4rLjAfFQNUTKqZALj9ZmR7jEAvqZzQ9MKj2lQ= ; X-YMail-OSG: 6o0ZmZ8VM1mhfzjBX5pi2yFNgOun5y3QMmA9yI3YKxMPi_j bm3JixLcVaSlMdKDhwPwn0qWpADUqSMQEEWNElbl7aTY6xdAhtIy6F9r5kfr y0PyeRUzKUSrqmdpIW_3uxucYn.V6Gg6ww2YxVTDGdHo6AHsrQeVtrUMFdFj C8PSiDGSYjAVw7D7stRlXor3h4zP2xVIzGhsTrJMgDEBlMkbTAB13DY8s19. rDlwbbT4Xy0UVfrlqkvNT048Wc.oZLmcv8EOEZ5XBvmmSgeFScNQ8v_hfK9r 7XhpiXgR.rSh1wdgIZS.J4xdXovq8kDED7dSWJMyOqnhqmW22znvAsC.TiQP oI7MzsrQJBR4f_OmcwSwe7Q2xdRQxpf7KTdxjD7J8xC0w5dmOojGA_ieeMqN 3ugGbEiMCePYgpugyygxcR5xGxCwuwf3NmucFL5oedUMo17HYTBw79trKYFO H0VAQUepyPV.mE7g03fqaogesxp80mWPO5FyUxGrTpUhIn19Xhy.BCy3zB41 igV9zWC0u1Ao4.g3Czoc- Received: from [75.37.1.111] by web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:48:42 PST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, V2hlbiBzZXR0aW5nIGVtIGludGVyZmFjZSBmb3IgOUsgTVRVIHVuZGVyIDguMy1SZWxlYXNlLCBpdCByZWNlaXZlcyA5SyBmcmFtZSBVRFAgCmRhdGFncmFtIGJ1dCB0cmFuc21pdHMgMTUwMCBVRFAgKGZyYWdtZW50YXRpb24gb24gMTUwMCBNVFUpLgoKQmVzaWRlcyBzZXQgSnVtYm8gTVRVIG9uIHRoZSBpbnRlcmZhY2UsIGlzIGFueXRoaW5nIGVsc2UgbmVlZCB0byBiZSBzZXQgZm9yIAp0cmFuc21pdHRpbmcganVtYm8gZnJhbWUgb3V0PwoKLUppbgoBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/718 YahooMailWebService/0.8.131.499 Message-ID: <1359607722.35096.YahooMailRC@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:48:42 -0800 (PST) From: Jin Guojun Subject: Async Jumbo frame size from em in 8.3-R To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 04:48:49 -0000 When setting em interface for 9K MTU under 8.3-Release, it receives 9K frame UDP datagram but transmits 1500 UDP (fragmentation on 1500 MTU). Besides set Jumbo MTU on the interface, is anything else need to be set for transmitting jumbo frame out? -Jin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 31 15:43:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F330636 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrisikeshsahu@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ve0-f180.google.com (mail-ve0-f180.google.com [209.85.128.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF23ED3 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:42:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f180.google.com with SMTP id jx10so2105956veb.39 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 07:42:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=2KtOhAyCgyfRmH+RQj4sXtStk+02yvw2AOht1Fr6MLo=; b=SZFxDJz37syqMzraM+nWJ+UmTn4XaM8lNrcpxU+1dMLEO3qMHlG8DBeiMbAEb01DJS LHqrj/fbXBjyuEgwIT5csXtfIjs81SFPMDButzt/u6lRuW/QSqmHruO4xbMhw/SXXRyt sazvWb0OjoNRYfwsbxKTdJ4yGY8FTuIW1DJMMp4EPM5zzpwpVtlJz1xQJdNx8nvHUyvY JWJzyxhmdD9+JFLpumB+Kq16x3OHsAJnwftHmPmvvzVwdof+cC010z8pVwS3MP+I5X0x D5DiZKUmCDSPUDcSILJeffsYNOVMmOUhLwwku0L+zqhWTkeznyPVJZCDy+UUafhN+bx1 U85w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.22.207 with SMTP id g15mr7314012vdf.61.1359646979550; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 07:42:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.26.78 with HTTP; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 07:42:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <51093140.9090806@ose.nl> References: <510919AD.2090203@ose.nl> <51093140.9090806@ose.nl> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:12:59 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Network PHY driver source code From: Hrisikesh sahu To: Bas Smeelen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:43:00 -0000 Hi Bas, Thanks a lot your help. Regards Hrisikesh On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote: > On 01/30/2013 02:43 PM, Hrisikesh sahu wrote: > >> Thanks a lot for quick reply. >> There is no file within /usr/src folder. >> >> Could you please tell me how to get those source files for freebsd 9.1 >> release? >> >> > You didn't install the sources when installing FreeBSD? > For 9.1-RELEASE i386 you can get the sources from > ftp://ftp.nl.freebsd.org/**mirror/FreeBSD/releases/i386/** > 9.1-RELEASE/src.txz > for instance > or the amd64 sources from > ftp://ftp.nl.freebsd.org/**mirror/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/** > 9.1-RELEASE/src.txz > > Then unpack with tar xf src.txc > The result is usr/src unpacked in your current directory, move src to > /usr/src > > > >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote: >> >> On 01/30/2013 12:13 PM, Hrisikesh sahu wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>>> Could you guide me where I can find all the supported PHY driver source >>>> code details ? >>>> I want to know what are the PHY drivers supported within Freebsd 9.1 >>>> Release. >>>> >>>> Please help me on this. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Hrisikesh >>>> >>>> Hi >>> My guess: /usr/src/sys/dev/mii >>> >>> > > ______________________________**_________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** > unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 31 16:41:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636AD9E4 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:41:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D535260 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:41:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (h-74-15.a183.priv.bahnhof.se [46.59.74.15]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2479B5A83 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 20:32:39 +0400 (MSK) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 20:32:25 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: binary updates for firefox and chromium? Message-ID: <20130131163225.GJ5719@external.screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:41:02 -0000 Hello. I find it impossible to rebuild the hard but very commonly used packages on every 'portaudit' notice. Impossible in my case means the result is unpredictable and the process is too long. This involves mozilloids and a chromium at the least, needn't to mention the OOo is a must, too. Looking at http://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-current/www/ I can't find them. FF is v16 there (v18+ is in the ports' head) and no any chromium. Does it mean that if I need the binary-updated firefox and chromium then I need to use pc-bsd? This makes me want even more to install a pc-bsd or the like into the jail and rolling binary updates there without its GUI. Is there any 'been there, done that' for the case? Thank you. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: 1754B9C1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 31 18:38:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F72FEB for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 18:38:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8079F7 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 18:38:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0VIcAS6063409; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:38:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id r0VIc9DK063404; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:38:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:38:09 -0500 (EST) From: doug To: Peter Vereshagin Subject: Re: binary updates for firefox and chromium? In-Reply-To: <20130131163225.GJ5719@external.screwed.box> Message-ID: References: <20130131163225.GJ5719@external.screwed.box> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:38:11 -0500 (EST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: doug@safeport.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 18:38:18 -0000 On Thu, 31 Jan 2013, Peter Vereshagin wrote: > Hello. > > I find it impossible to rebuild the hard but very commonly used packages on > every 'portaudit' notice. > > Impossible in my case means the result is unpredictable and the process is too > long. > > This involves mozilloids and a chromium at the least, needn't to mention the > OOo is a must, too. > > Looking at > > http://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-current/www/ > > I can't find them. FF is v16 there (v18+ is in the ports' head) and no any > chromium. > > Does it mean that if I need the binary-updated firefox and chromium then I > need to use pc-bsd? > > This makes me want even more to install a pc-bsd or the like into the jail > and rolling binary updates there without its GUI. Is there any 'been there, > done that' for the case? I am told that we are close to fixing all the issues that were found from the Nov intrusion. I asked my same source about using parts of PCBSD. The answer I got was the PCBSD package system was not compatible with the FreeBSD package system. This is my understanding so all errors are mine. This is also a plea for people with first hand information to chip in. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 31 18:59:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D980B57C for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 18:59:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C5BAC4 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 18:59:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U0z8A-00031P-TB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:45:02 +0100 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:45:02 +0100 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:45:02 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: binary updates for firefox and chromium? Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 18:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <20130131163225.GJ5719@external.screwed.box> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 18:59:54 -0000 On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 20:32:25 +0400, Peter Vereshagin wrote: > Hello. > > I find it impossible to rebuild the hard but very commonly used packages > on every 'portaudit' notice. > > Impossible in my case means the result is unpredictable and the process > is too long. > > This involves mozilloids and a chromium at the least, needn't to mention > the OOo is a must, too. > > Looking at > > http://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-current/www/ > > I can't find them. FF is v16 there (v18+ is in the ports' head) and no > any chromium. > > Does it mean that if I need the binary-updated firefox and chromium then > I need to use pc-bsd? > > This makes me want even more to install a pc-bsd or the like into the > jail and rolling binary updates there without its GUI. Is there any > 'been there, done that' for the case? What, for example, is the problem with compiling Firefox 18 from the port? It takes about an hour to compile on my main box (9.1 Release on- x86_64), which has nothing special at all by way of hardware. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 31 19:34:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954A027D for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:34:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A187D38 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:34:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (tor18.anonymizer.ccc.de [31.172.30.1]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 26D765F09 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:34:20 +0400 (MSK) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:33:52 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binary updates for firefox and chromium? Message-ID: <20130131193153.GB55160@external.screwed.box> References: <20130131163225.GJ5719@external.screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:34:24 -0000 Hello. 2013/01/31 18:44:30 +0000 Walter Hurry => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : WH> What, for example, is the problem with compiling Firefox 18 from the port? WH> WH> It takes about an hour to compile on my main box (9.1 Release on- WH> x86_64), which has nothing special at all by way of hardware. It use to take me a day (~20h) to rebuild each of: www/firefox, www.seamonkey, mail/thunderbird. In general I'm satisfied with speed of their work though. Starting from v17 upgrades I experience the problem I can't see the solution so I even don't ask about it. The details is that for all the 3 ports almost everything builds and then while linking the main (or almost the main) binary the compiler gets to lose the 'JSAutoCompartment.o'. I know I can buy some cloud to rebuild but is it of any rational if every hardware-like-mine owner shall follow this way when we can have it centralized? Thank you. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: 1754B9C1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 31 21:43:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB5C9E5 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:43:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC972FD for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U11uj-0004Ul-Ed for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:43:21 +0100 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:43:21 +0100 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:43:21 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: binary updates for firefox and chromium? Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:42:50 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <20130131163225.GJ5719@external.screwed.box> <20130131193153.GB55160@external.screwed.box> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:43:06 -0000 On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:33:52 +0400, Peter Vereshagin wrote: > Hello. > > 2013/01/31 18:44:30 +0000 Walter Hurry => To > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : > > WH> What, for example, is the problem with compiling Firefox 18 from the > port? > WH> > WH> It takes about an hour to compile on my main box (9.1 Release on- > WH> x86_64), which has nothing special at all by way of hardware. > > It use to take me a day (~20h) to rebuild each of: www/firefox, > www.seamonkey, mail/thunderbird. 20h? What on earth is your hardware? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 31 21:51:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E6FCF5 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:51:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C3E373 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (tor18.anonymizer.ccc.de [31.172.30.1]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 25F685B64 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 01:51:04 +0400 (MSK) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 01:50:25 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binary updates for firefox and chromium? Message-ID: <20130131215025.GA42470@external.screwed.box> References: <20130131163225.GJ5719@external.screwed.box> <20130131193153.GB55160@external.screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:51:09 -0000 Hello. 2013/01/31 21:42:50 +0000 Walter Hurry => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : WH> > WH> What, for example, is the problem with compiling Firefox 18 from the WH> > port? WH> > WH> WH> > WH> It takes about an hour to compile on my main box (9.1 Release on- WH> > WH> x86_64), which has nothing special at all by way of hardware. WH> > WH> > It use to take me a day (~20h) to rebuild each of: www/firefox, WH> > www.seamonkey, mail/thunderbird. WH> WH> 20h? What on earth is your hardware? Neither hurry nor x86_64. But the browser performance is satisfactory. Thank you. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: 1754B9C1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 31 22:17:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6759A4CF for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:17:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from smtp-int-m.obspm.fr (smtp-int-m.obspm.fr [145.238.187.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E173475F for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pcjas.obspm.fr (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by smtp-int-m.obspm.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/SIO Observatoire de Paris - 07/2009) with ESMTP id r0VMGR84028638 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:16:28 +0100 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:16:27 +0100 From: Albert Shih To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: zfs + NFS + FreeBSD with performance prob Message-ID: <20130131221627.GA91823@pcjas.obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Miltered: at smtp-int-m.obspm.fr with ID 510AED3B.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 510AED3B.000/145.238.184.233/pcjas.obspm.fr/pcjas.obspm.fr/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:17:17 -0000 Hi all, I'm not sure if the problem is with FreeBSD or ZFS or both so I cross-post (I known it's bad). Well I've server running FreeBSD 9.0 with (don't count / on differents disks) zfs pool with 36 disk. The performance is very very good on the server. I've one NFS client running FreeBSD 8.3 and the performance over NFS is very good : For example : Read from the client and write over NFS to ZFS: [root@ .tmp]# time tar xf /tmp/linux-3.7.5.tar real 1m7.244s user 0m0.921s sys 0m8.990s this client is on 1Gbits/s network cable and same network switch as the server. I've a second NFS client running FreeBSD 9.1-Stable, and on this second client the performance is catastrophic. After 1 hour the tar isn't finish. OK this second client is connect with 100Mbit/s and not on the same switch. But well from 2 min --> ~ 90 min ...:-( I've try for this second client to change on the ZFS-NFS server the zfs set sync=disabled and that change nothing. On a third NFS client linux (recent Ubuntu) I got the almost same catastrophic performance. With or without sync=disabled. Those three NFS client use TCP. If I do a classic scp I got normal speed ~9-10 Mbytes/s so the network is not the problem. I try to something like (find with google): net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_max: 2097152 -> 16777216 net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_max: 2097152 -> 16777216 net.inet.tcp.sendspace: 32768 -> 262144 net.inet.tcp.recvspace: 65536 -> 262144 net.inet.tcp.mssdflt: 536 -> 1452 net.inet.udp.recvspace: 42080 -> 65535 net.inet.udp.maxdgram: 9216 -> 65535 net.local.stream.recvspace: 8192 -> 65535 net.local.stream.sendspace: 8192 -> 65535 and that change nothing either. Anyone have any idea ? Regards. JAS -- Albert SHIH DIO bâtiment 15 Observatoire de Paris 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Téléphone : 01 45 07 76 26/06 86 69 95 71 xmpp: jas@obspm.fr Heure local/Local time: jeu 31 jan 2013 23:04:47 CET From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 1 04:09:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0ED5441 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 04:09:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbeich@tormail.org) Received: from outgoing.tormail.org (outgoing.tormail.org [82.221.96.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EF1863 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 04:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=internal.tormail.org) by outgoing.tormail.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U17wl-0008O5-KV; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 07:09:52 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tormail.org; s=tm; h=Message-Id:X-TorMail-User:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=NVn2ahG/pfmKdUopcs4Kni/Nld2AFKCO9pI6Oqxk+5Q=; b=eAzG/x1KCGyTzrLNE71sGdeREowDEq1SItA0ukei8kmCESwgIiAPqalQd9VBz6JUj/78jYsTJGCnYNx+3SkHU/zA9vODb6fp3qO0WwTgBu1hZqOYEhuBMhpUbzLz6gLEkNYTbMmARd/Ipww09Z39f80cDsTSS68y0cSwIEzvXH0=; Received: from jbeich by internal.tormail.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1U17uQ-000Bym-7x; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 04:07:27 +0000 From: Jan Beich To: Peter Vereshagin Subject: Re: binary updates for firefox and chromium? In-Reply-To: <20130131193153.GB55160@external.screwed.box> (Peter Vereshagin's message of "Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:33:52 +0400") Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:04:33 -0700 References: <20130131163225.GJ5719@external.screwed.box> <20130131193153.GB55160@external.screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-TorMail-User: jbeich Message-Id: <1U17uQ-000Bym-7x@internal.tormail.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 04:09:54 -0000 Peter Vereshagin writes: > Hello. > > 2013/01/31 18:44:30 +0000 Walter Hurry => To > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : > > WH> What, for example, is the problem with compiling Firefox 18 from the port? > WH> > WH> It takes about an hour to compile on my main box (9.1 Release on- > WH> x86_64), which has nothing special at all by way of hardware. > > It use to take me a day (~20h) to rebuild each of: www/firefox, > www.seamonkey, mail/thunderbird. We can certainly shave some time and maintenance burden by using a shared libxul.so similar to how PkgSrc and Debian did. But the work required is bit too big for me who has little motivation to hack outside of firefox-nightly or upstream. > > In general I'm satisfied with speed of their work though. > > Starting from v17 upgrades I experience the problem I can't see the solution > so I even don't ask about it. The details is that for all the 3 ports almost > everything builds and then while linking the main (or almost the main) binary > the compiler gets to lose the 'JSAutoCompartment.o'. I'd recommend to build ports inside a poudriere jail or tinderbox. Sorting out issues in the environment could be a huge timesink. For one, I gave up doing so with VirtualBox or Chromium ports. > > I know I can buy some cloud to rebuild but is it of any rational if every > hardware-like-mine owner shall follow this way when we can have it > centralized? Try bugging Redports people if they plan to provide user package repositories similar to Launchpad. While one can share repos on maillist they lack necessary metadata in order to trust such packages: - an exact revision/source the package was built against - build environment - log/output of the build process - a sort of proof that the above wasn't forged (popularity?) - checksum or package signing - encrypted connection TBH, I don't have much hope for Pointyhat. It was damn slow even for Tier1 archs before the security incident. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 1 08:30:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920D02FD for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 08:30:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB992E4 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 08:30:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Footer: b3NlLm5s Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 09:30:20 +0100 Message-ID: <510B7D09.9090905@ose.nl> Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 09:30:01 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binary updates for firefox and chromium? References: <20130131163225.GJ5719@external.screwed.box> <20130131193153.GB55160@external.screwed.box> <20130131215025.GA42470@external.screwed.box> In-Reply-To: <20130131215025.GA42470@external.screwed.box> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 08:30:30 -0000 On 01/31/2013 10:50 PM, Peter Vereshagin wrote: > Hello. > > 2013/01/31 21:42:50 +0000 Walter Hurry => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : > WH> > WH> What, for example, is the problem with compiling Firefox 18 from the > WH> > port? > WH> > WH> > WH> > WH> It takes about an hour to compile on my main box (9.1 Release on- > WH> > WH> x86_64), which has nothing special at all by way of hardware. > WH> > > WH> > It use to take me a day (~20h) to rebuild each of: www/firefox, > WH> > www.seamonkey, mail/thunderbird. > WH> > WH> 20h? What on earth is your hardware? > > Neither hurry nor x86_64. > > But the browser performance is satisfactory. > > Thank you. On a 8 year old laptop with celeron 1,6GHz processor and 2GB RAM it takes about 10 hours to rebuild firefox and thunderbird. Performance is great for working, but when updating the ports I leave it building over night. Lately I have been able to use a server at work for package building with poudriere which works very well. I guess FreeBSD people are close to having a new package infrastructure and look forward to this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 1 17:55:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D713AC6 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 17:55:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5788D643 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 17:55:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r11HskAl015547 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:54:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <510C0166.7070301@dreamchaser.org> Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 10:54:46 -0700 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121116 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Crucial SSD firmware upgrade -- usb flash drive issues Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Fri, 01 Feb 2013 10:54:46 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 17:55:01 -0000 I've got a Crucial m4 SSD which needs a firmware upgrade. >From the Crucial website I've downloaded an image which supposedly is an iso image bootable from either CD or a usb stick. Since the fbsd install images are different for booting from cd and usb flash drives (the flash image is significantly larger), I'm wondering if there's anything I need to be aware of when attempting this. I tried copying the ssd firmware update image to a flash drive using: dd if=firmwareupdate.iso of=/dev/da0 bs=64k which seemed to work. However, when I attempt to boot the device, BIOS complains about it not being bootable and says to fix it or select something else which is bootable. I know the drive can be bootable because I used it for the fbsd 9.1 usb boot image and it worked fine. The documentation for the SSD firmware upgrade says "Create a Bootable USB Drive" with the following steps (summarized here, no real content omitted): 1. Start with a newly formatted USB drive 2. Open a USB installer program. If you don't have one, you may download a free one such as Universal USB Installer... 3. If you are using the Universal USB Installer, then: 3a. At the Step 1 drop down box, scroll to the bottom and select the last option: Try Unlisted Linux ISO 3b. Go to step 2 (in the pgm) and browse to the firmware ISO that you downloaded earlier 3c. Go to step 3 (in the pgm) and select the flash drive on which you want to install the ISO 3d. Click the Create button and click Format E:\Drive 3e. A sequence of screens will appear and disappear... The above is all highly confusing to me, as it's not clear who's doing what. I'm guessing the "Universal Installer Program" actually writes a boot block and then the bootable image someplace beyond that, and the iso image supplied is not really a complete bootable image for a flash drive -- it's missing the boot blocks. Can anyone suggest a way to create a bootable flash drive using this image? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 1 18:04:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CCF2F39 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 18:04:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s6.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s6.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A596D9 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 18:04:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY165-DS1 ([65.54.190.124]) by bay0-omc2-s6.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:03:27 -0800 X-EIP: [1Ip4b7e2tK9H3TOhTTC3KlEUWpgAtUzr+bfcXjQIHV4=] X-Originating-Email: [millenia2000@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: Sean Cavanaugh To: , "'FreeBSD Mailing List'" References: <510C0166.7070301@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: <510C0166.7070301@dreamchaser.org> Subject: RE: Crucial SSD firmware upgrade -- usb flash drive issues Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:03:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: AQKVUEo/9H+a3weqnEM2wnITgOUa8ZbWqujw Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2013 18:03:27.0768 (UTC) FILETIME=[6FA07180:01CE00A6] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 18:04:34 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Gary Aitken > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 12:55 PM > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: Crucial SSD firmware upgrade -- usb flash drive issues > > I've got a Crucial m4 SSD which needs a firmware upgrade. > From the Crucial website I've downloaded an image which supposedly is an > iso image bootable from either CD or a usb stick. > > Since the fbsd install images are different for booting from cd and usb flash > drives (the flash image is significantly larger), I'm wondering if there's > anything I need to be aware of when attempting this. > > I tried copying the ssd firmware update image to a flash drive using: > dd if=firmwareupdate.iso of=/dev/da0 bs=64k which seemed to work. > > However, when I attempt to boot the device, BIOS complains about it not > being bootable and says to fix it or select something else which is bootable. > > I know the drive can be bootable because I used it for the fbsd 9.1 usb boot > image and it worked fine. > > The documentation for the SSD firmware upgrade says "Create a Bootable > USB Drive" > with the following steps (summarized here, no real content omitted): > > 1. Start with a newly formatted USB drive > 2. Open a USB installer program. If you don't have one, you may download > a free one such as Universal USB Installer... > 3. If you are using the Universal USB Installer, then: > 3a. At the Step 1 drop down box, scroll to the bottom and select > the last option: Try Unlisted Linux ISO > 3b. Go to step 2 (in the pgm) and browse to the firmware ISO that you > downloaded earlier > 3c. Go to step 3 (in the pgm) and select the flash drive on which you > want to install the ISO > 3d. Click the Create button and click Format E:\Drive > 3e. A sequence of screens will appear and disappear... > > The above is all highly confusing to me, as it's not clear who's doing what. > I'm guessing the "Universal Installer Program" actually writes a boot block > and then the bootable image someplace beyond that, and the iso image > supplied is not really a complete bootable image for a flash drive -- it's > missing the boot blocks. > > Can anyone suggest a way to create a bootable flash drive using this image? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Please see the below site for a script to convert the .ISO into a .IMG that can be dd written to the thumb drive http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=4361 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 1 19:51:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9D9D27 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 19:51:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from redcondor2.peak.org (redcondor2.peak.org [69.59.192.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04459B6E for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 19:51:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zmail-mta01.peak.org ([207.55.16.111]) by redcondor2.peak.org ({6c724cae-de34-4c5f-b615-3072b86419fa}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20130201195144268 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 19:51:44 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from bonsai.localnet (rad0.peak.org [69.59.192.40]) by zmail-mta01.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D32AE49116B for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 11:51:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from oak.localnet (oak.localnet [192.168.193.34]) by bonsai.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65ED83DBBA for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 11:51:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from oak.localnet (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by oak.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE62C046 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 11:51:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from carlj@localhost) by oak.localnet (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id r11JpggS003418; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 11:51:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.localnet: carlj set sender to carlj@peak.org using -f From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd-update problems Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 11:51:41 -0800 Message-ID: <87obg3bynm.fsf@oak.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MAG-OUTBOUND: peakinternet.redcondor.net@207.55.16/22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 19:51:51 -0000 I ran freebsd-update to update my 8.1-RELEASE system to 8.3-RELEASE (freebsd-update -r 8.3-RELEASE upgrade). It downloaded a bunch of files, asked me to edit some configuration files, showed me long lists of files that have been changed, added and removed, and then ended with no status or error indications. The problem is that there appears to be absolutely NO change in my system that I can find. I have checked /etc, /bin, and /lib with 'ls -lct | head', but there are no files that have changed recently. The /var/db/freebsd-update directory has over 500MB of files it downloaded. Does anybody have any suggestions on what might have happened and what can be done? -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 1 21:13:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CFADE0 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 21:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin@rootbsd.daleco.biz) Received: from rootbsd.daleco.biz (daleco.biz [199.48.129.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899AAF02 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 21:13:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rootbsd.daleco.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rootbsd.daleco.biz (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r11Kwt6k053926; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:58:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kevin@rootbsd.daleco.biz) Received: (from kevin@localhost) by rootbsd.daleco.biz (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id r11Kwtn5053925; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:58:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kevin) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:58:55 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey To: Carl Johnson Subject: Re: freebsd-update problems Message-ID: <20130201205855.GA53909@rootbsd.daleco.biz> References: <87obg3bynm.fsf@oak.localnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87obg3bynm.fsf@oak.localnet> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 21:13:07 -0000 On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 11:51:41AM -0800, Carl Johnson wrote: > I ran freebsd-update to update my 8.1-RELEASE system to 8.3-RELEASE > (freebsd-update -r 8.3-RELEASE upgrade). It downloaded a bunch of > files, asked me to edit some configuration files, showed me long lists > of files that have been changed, added and removed, and then ended with > no status or error indications. The problem is that there appears to be > absolutely NO change in my system that I can find. I have checked /etc, > /bin, and /lib with 'ls -lct | head', but there are no files that have > changed recently. The /var/db/freebsd-update directory has over 500MB > of files it downloaded. > > Does anybody have any suggestions on what might have happened and what > can be done? > -- > Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org > I'm not looking at the docs ATM, but IIRC you need to run an install step now. Check the docs ... they should tell you. HTH, Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 1 21:17:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F77F8F for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 21:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E305F31 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 21:17:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r11LH7Ta016138; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:17:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <510C30D3.1070405@dreamchaser.org> Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 14:17:07 -0700 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121116 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Cavanaugh Subject: Re: Crucial SSD firmware upgrade -- usb flash drive issues References: <510C0166.7070301@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Fri, 01 Feb 2013 14:17:10 -0700 (MST) Cc: 'FreeBSD Mailing List' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 21:17:21 -0000 On 02/01/13 11:03, Sean Cavanaugh wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- >> questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Gary Aitken >> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 12:55 PM >> To: FreeBSD Mailing List >> Subject: Crucial SSD firmware upgrade -- usb flash drive issues >> >> I've got a Crucial m4 SSD which needs a firmware upgrade. >> From the Crucial website I've downloaded an image which supposedly is an >> iso image bootable from either CD or a usb stick. >> >> Since the fbsd install images are different for booting from cd and usb > flash >> drives (the flash image is significantly larger), I'm wondering if there's >> anything I need to be aware of when attempting this. >> >> I tried copying the ssd firmware update image to a flash drive using: >> dd if=firmwareupdate.iso of=/dev/da0 bs=64k which seemed to work. >> >> However, when I attempt to boot the device, BIOS complains about it not >> being bootable and says to fix it or select something else which is > bootable. >> >> I know the drive can be bootable because I used it for the fbsd 9.1 usb > boot >> image and it worked fine. >> >> The documentation for the SSD firmware upgrade says "Create a Bootable >> USB Drive" >> with the following steps (summarized here, no real content omitted): >> >> 1. Start with a newly formatted USB drive >> 2. Open a USB installer program. If you don't have one, you may > download >> a free one such as Universal USB Installer... >> 3. If you are using the Universal USB Installer, then: >> 3a. At the Step 1 drop down box, scroll to the bottom and select >> the last option: Try Unlisted Linux ISO >> 3b. Go to step 2 (in the pgm) and browse to the firmware ISO that you >> downloaded earlier >> 3c. Go to step 3 (in the pgm) and select the flash drive on which you >> want to install the ISO >> 3d. Click the Create button and click Format E:\Drive >> 3e. A sequence of screens will appear and disappear... >> >> The above is all highly confusing to me, as it's not clear who's doing > what. >> I'm guessing the "Universal Installer Program" actually writes a boot > block >> and then the bootable image someplace beyond that, and the iso image >> supplied is not really a complete bootable image for a flash drive -- it's >> missing the boot blocks. >> >> Can anyone suggest a way to create a bootable flash drive using this > image? >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Please see the below site for a script to convert the .ISO into a .IMG that > can be dd written to the thumb drive > > http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=4361 Thanks, that was a help. However, when it boots, I get the following: No /boot/loader FreeBSD/x86 boot Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel boot: I can mount the thumb drive as a ufs file system, which looks like this: /boot/ solinux/ boot.cat boot2880.img bootmsg.txt isolinux.bin isolinux.cfg memdisk splash.lss /legal.txt /revision.txt Assuming this is all good as a stand-alone linux image, what do I need to enter at the boot: prompt to get it to boot? It's not clear to me what the code to be booted is. The isolinux.cfg file looks like this: PROMPT 1 TIMEOUT 30 DEFAULT default DISPLAY bootMsg.txt LABEL default KERNEL memdisk append initrd=boot2880.img floppy raw LABEL alternate KERNEL memdisk append initrd=boot2880.img floppy Thanks for any hints... Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 1 21:26:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE335257 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 21:26:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-x22d.google.com (mail-we0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22d]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF52F94 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 21:26:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f173.google.com with SMTP id r5so3294746wey.32 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 13:26:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :reply-to:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type; bh=I5igIvVGg6Efhan4XWLzJezO0hFbGbCSYjPF1vkmKv0=; b=ynVQnTv8cAaRNPRgiKczBJ3Jj7S2cVp2FtPL+MY3KBFHVVgVM5x8txqSN4rKoKei4E yVExXUQL3MiNVs827rStBYQC+7v4boEc0LoNPHTFNhnZly/YkVY0FzKvgyXYdWTJQ7Yp +HXB6x6KeH6M08Mti4yE0WVuSp0raIJqpK+5ADPu1EbCAXJMVkzbfSzvL+gU5yjYqWjd C9G2WvuT4Err0XjLVkkuNtHGPmZKhKtyBUTsooCKk4lGTE5IIcVLRQ4NrqQz0iyUaqtv z8BQtrR6RuX5lBDvu3VnqxgYBO8wDjKq/na21ltkl/iO/AnBEXRJ4z2sKI5IbksC6uCO thUg== X-Received: by 10.180.104.69 with SMTP id gc5mr162151wib.17.1359754018144; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 13:26:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([78.163.1.31]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ex6sm6227833wid.3.2013.02.01.13.26.48 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 01 Feb 2013 13:26:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 23:26:36 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-9?Q?G=F6k=FEin?= Akdeniz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update problems Message-Id: <20130201232636.f451dc9b4b24292c3e887f82@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87obg3bynm.fsf@oak.localnet> References: <87obg3bynm.fsf@oak.localnet> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Fri__1_Feb_2013_23_26_36_+0200_t_Z_wRWNtQ311+cX" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 21:26:59 -0000 --Signature=_Fri__1_Feb_2013_23_26_36_+0200_t_Z_wRWNtQ311+cX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-9 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 01 Feb 2013 11:51:41 -0800 tarihinde Carl Johnson yazm=FD=FE: >=20 > Does anybody have any suggestions on what might have happened and what > can be done? >=20 Hello Carl, What does "# uname -a" or "# uname -r" output says? --=20 G=F6k=FEin Akdeniz --Signature=_Fri__1_Feb_2013_23_26_36_+0200_t_Z_wRWNtQ311+cX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRDDMRAAoJEBDAvVQzTymiIgkP/jbOjvZBxFBKAkL0vuy4v/+t XUwmAuLOHlMtuxVechq9eH+7F93mwPPGQi65IJQiUaisbmQbiPeJzHh0Y12d0ED+ EAQYPy0xyc6xvEe5W0SL+YkH1IbrAVWylygz8Atqbg9oDKCpmCAPPVrbMgHjC3Bb JJek1qGnciIW8HvL0yu1wq0Z4T86GfDw/+eUKiEaCGRsYEX+I0p1KPyzAW814/sv EO+OPgSTj02YGiu0NKRKPc803OUww9Di3Br9iW/8tL+J81TAXDmoLw9pUOGdOtKc LQygqYAiCZIBREAoHfJ5PST6xFwUiK5pHy/R1jUnHBxYENIdcwaB614zLZQnzDhl pTHAFOppuu5SSZ6rXCkhiiOh9aahJanKQCbYLv426b0EimH/eeO1TTHuiJAgJTZM N19AGO9z1rBW9ueX7B5GFjqLawnxlSTFAcdQzJtPQwtCepGNU3XbjnZu7G4D4yU1 3/x/T/tSxt/AljhwgPCkUgxJcIb4M7ffevtQZPWe4nKIOa7pMWImTUcyUnX+AQ49 XTmFaMeXcsJk8h3GTELOfIxwo6PYPU0C0VbnCCw/unjQaY1P1lvIcQf4bq6yMQQS JVW5E+uSHznMtRig8XV7UMfw31uBrwmRRQlpG84rqXnOcWYx3bWgF9bK+S+1QMP1 obj/Oxz0Gna90XlWE3Gw =49cY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Fri__1_Feb_2013_23_26_36_+0200_t_Z_wRWNtQ311+cX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 1 22:49:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF2B10F for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 22:49:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from redcondor1.peak.org (redcondor1.peak.org [69.59.192.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5BA825A for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 22:49:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zmail-mta01.peak.org ([207.55.16.111]) by redcondor1.peak.org ({34b3fc79-8c76-4cfb-a4c0-c941747cf3b5}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20130201224858382 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 22:48:58 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from bonsai.localnet (rad0.peak.org [69.59.192.40]) by zmail-mta01.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 392A74926B1 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:48:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from oak.localnet (oak.localnet [192.168.193.34]) by bonsai.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA393DBBA for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:48:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from oak.localnet (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by oak.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5697CC046 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:48:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from carlj@localhost) by oak.localnet (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id r11Mmvj7004708; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:48:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.localnet: carlj set sender to carlj@peak.org using -f From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update problems References: <87obg3bynm.fsf@oak.localnet> <20130201205855.GA53909@rootbsd.daleco.biz> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 14:48:57 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20130201205855.GA53909@rootbsd.daleco.biz> (Kevin Kinsey's message of "Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:58:55 -0600") Message-ID: <87k3qrbqg6.fsf@oak.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MAG-OUTBOUND: peakinternet.redcondor.net@207.55.16/22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 22:49:05 -0000 Kevin Kinsey writes: > On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 11:51:41AM -0800, Carl Johnson wrote: >> I ran freebsd-update to update my 8.1-RELEASE system to 8.3-RELEASE >> (freebsd-update -r 8.3-RELEASE upgrade). It downloaded a bunch of >> files, asked me to edit some configuration files, showed me long lists >> of files that have been changed, added and removed, and then ended with >> no status or error indications. The problem is that there appears to be >> absolutely NO change in my system that I can find. I have checked /etc, >> /bin, and /lib with 'ls -lct | head', but there are no files that have >> changed recently. The /var/db/freebsd-update directory has over 500MB >> of files it downloaded. >> >> Does anybody have any suggestions on what might have happened and what >> can be done? >> -- >> Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org >> > > I'm not looking at the docs ATM, but IIRC you need to run an install > step now. Check the docs ... they should tell you. Thanks, I just saw that a few minutes ago. I wasn't happy about it so I went out for a long walk, but I should have done it before posting. I'll try that right after this. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 1 22:50:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6E11B3 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 22:50:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from redcondor2.peak.org (redcondor2.peak.org [69.59.192.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1725F26B for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 22:50:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zmail-mta01.peak.org ([207.55.16.111]) by redcondor2.peak.org ({6c724cae-de34-4c5f-b615-3072b86419fa}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20130201225016405 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 22:50:16 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from bonsai.localnet (rad0.peak.org [69.59.192.40]) by zmail-mta01.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 28FE9492852 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:50:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from oak.localnet (oak.localnet [192.168.193.34]) by bonsai.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B6C3DBBE for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:50:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from oak.localnet (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by oak.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F44C046 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:50:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from carlj@localhost) by oak.localnet (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id r11MoFCK004716; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:50:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.localnet: carlj set sender to carlj@peak.org using -f From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update problems References: <87obg3bynm.fsf@oak.localnet> <20130201232636.f451dc9b4b24292c3e887f82@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 14:50:14 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20130201232636.f451dc9b4b24292c3e887f82@gmail.com> (=?utf-8?B?IkfDtmvFn2lu?= Akdeniz"'s message of "Fri, 1 Feb 2013 23:26:36 +0200") Message-ID: <87fw1fbqe1.fsf@oak.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MAG-OUTBOUND: peakinternet.redcondor.net@207.55.16/22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 22:50:17 -0000 G=C3=B6k=C5=9Fin Akdeniz writes: > Fri, 01 Feb 2013 11:51:41 -0800 tarihinde > Carl Johnson yazm=C4=B1=C5=9F: >>=20 >> Does anybody have any suggestions on what might have happened and what >> can be done? >>=20 > > Hello Carl, > > What does "# uname -a" or "# uname -r" output says? It still shows 8.1, but another poster just pointed out that I hadn't installed my upgrade. I need to read the man pages more carefully. Thanks. --=20 Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 1 23:37:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F28CAF6 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 23:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from outbound.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44623EF for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 23:37:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (cpc15-sgyl30-2-0-cust460.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com [82.39.117.205]) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound.ifdnrg.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r11NbTxK053371 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 23:37:29 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <510C51BB.6010404@ifdnrg.com> Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 23:37:31 +0000 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update problems References: <87obg3bynm.fsf@oak.localnet> <20130201232636.f451dc9b4b24292c3e887f82@gmail.com> <87fw1fbqe1.fsf@oak.localnet> In-Reply-To: <87fw1fbqe1.fsf@oak.localnet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 23:37:32 -0000 On 01/02/2013 22:50, Carl Johnson wrote: > GökÅŸin Akdeniz writes: > >> Fri, 01 Feb 2013 11:51:41 -0800 tarihinde >> Carl Johnson yazmış: >>> Does anybody have any suggestions on what might have happened and what >>> can be done? >>> >> Hello Carl, >> >> What does "# uname -a" or "# uname -r" output says? > It still shows 8.1, but another poster just pointed out that I hadn't > installed my upgrade. I need to read the man pages more carefully. > Thanks. > Better link: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html#freebsdupdate-using -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07970339546 e: paul@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com ------------------------- IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA ---------------------------------------------------- High Specification Dedicated Servers from £100.00pm ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 1 23:52:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B690FDD3 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 23:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from smtprelay03.ispgateway.de (smtprelay03.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70991681 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 23:52:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.2.35.119] (helo=wombat.mininet) by smtprelay03.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1U1QIQ-0003uT-K4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 00:45:34 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 24.2.1 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I); VM 8.1.2 under 24.2.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20748.21461.276771.976171@wombat.mininet> Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 00:46:29 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how do I restart lagg0 properly? In-Reply-To: <20130129063621.7d349f04@X220.ovitrap.com> References: <20743.1328.684144.654036@wombat.mininet> <20130129063621.7d349f04@X220.ovitrap.com> From: markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de X-Df-Sender: NDcyNTgy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 23:52:46 -0000 Erich Dollansky writes: > I have used this configuration with success: > > ifconfig_em0="up" > ifconfig_iwn0="ether MAC address of em0" > wlans_iwn0="wlan0" > ifconfig_wlan0="WPA" > cloned_interfaces="lagg0" > ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport em0 laggport wlan0 > Your IP address" > > This configuration switched automatically between the available > connections prefering em0. There are no routing problems, nothing of > this sort at all. Thanks for confirming the setup. I basically use the same but with DHCP enabled. I've done quite a bit of testing lately. Turns out that *sometimes* lagg0 works as advertized. When the box was booted with WLAN available only, I can plug in a patch cable and connect to my DSL router via LAN. Most of the times though, this does not work. After plugging in the cable, I cannot make any outbound connections. The box can be pinged from other boxes in my LAN though. *Sometimes* the following commands will enable networking after plugging in the patch cable in these cases: service netif start service routing restart But then, most of the times this does not help either. I'm at a loss now. I'm actually wondering if the problem is located on the other end of the line (I'm using a Fritz!Box 7113 DSL router for both LAN and WLAN). regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 1 23:56:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B88E9B for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 23:56:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from redcondor2.peak.org (redcondor2.peak.org [69.59.192.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24CAA6A3 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 23:56:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zmail-mta01.peak.org ([207.55.16.111]) by redcondor2.peak.org ({6c724cae-de34-4c5f-b615-3072b86419fa}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20130201235647449 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 23:56:47 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from bonsai.localnet (rad0.peak.org [69.59.192.40]) by zmail-mta01.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3B0CE491A2B for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 15:56:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from oak.localnet (oak.localnet [192.168.193.34]) by bonsai.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819013DB63 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 15:56:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from oak.localnet (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by oak.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B166BE09 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 15:56:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from carlj@localhost) by oak.localnet (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id r11Nuk6o003760; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 15:56:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.localnet: carlj set sender to carlj@peak.org using -f From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update problems References: <87obg3bynm.fsf@oak.localnet> <20130201205855.GA53909@rootbsd.daleco.biz> <87k3qrbqg6.fsf@oak.localnet> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 15:56:46 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87k3qrbqg6.fsf@oak.localnet> (Carl Johnson's message of "Fri, 01 Feb 2013 14:48:57 -0800") Message-ID: <871ucz7flt.fsf@oak.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MAG-OUTBOUND: peakinternet.redcondor.net@207.55.16/22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 23:56:48 -0000 Carl Johnson writes: > Kevin Kinsey writes: > >> On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 11:51:41AM -0800, Carl Johnson wrote: >>> I ran freebsd-update to update my 8.1-RELEASE system to 8.3-RELEASE >>> (freebsd-update -r 8.3-RELEASE upgrade). It downloaded a bunch of >>> files, asked me to edit some configuration files, showed me long lists >>> of files that have been changed, added and removed, and then ended with >>> no status or error indications. The problem is that there appears to be >>> absolutely NO change in my system that I can find. I have checked /etc, >>> /bin, and /lib with 'ls -lct | head', but there are no files that have >>> changed recently. The /var/db/freebsd-update directory has over 500MB >>> of files it downloaded. >>> >>> Does anybody have any suggestions on what might have happened and what >>> can be done? >>> -- >>> Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org >>> >> >> I'm not looking at the docs ATM, but IIRC you need to run an install >> step now. Check the docs ... they should tell you. > > Thanks, I just saw that a few minutes ago. I wasn't happy about it so I > went out for a long walk, but I should have done it before posting. > I'll try that right after this. Everything looks good now: 'uname -r' now show '8.3-RELEASE-p3'. Thanks for the response. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 1 23:59:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9A0F5A for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 23:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from outbound.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDECA6BF for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 23:59:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (cpc15-sgyl30-2-0-cust460.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com [82.39.117.205]) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound.ifdnrg.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r11NZM8l053345; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 23:35:22 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <510C513C.2060809@ifdnrg.com> Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 23:35:24 +0000 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, carlj@peak.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update problems References: <87obg3bynm.fsf@oak.localnet> <20130201232636.f451dc9b4b24292c3e887f82@gmail.com> <87fw1fbqe1.fsf@oak.localnet> In-Reply-To: <87fw1fbqe1.fsf@oak.localnet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 23:59:06 -0000 On 01/02/2013 22:50, Carl Johnson wrote: > GökÅŸin Akdeniz writes: > >> Fri, 01 Feb 2013 11:51:41 -0800 tarihinde >> Carl Johnson yazmış: >>> Does anybody have any suggestions on what might have happened and what >>> can be done? >>> >> Hello Carl, >> >> What does "# uname -a" or "# uname -r" output says? > It still shows 8.1, but another poster just pointed out that I hadn't > installed my upgrade. I need to read the man pages more carefully. > Thanks. > Its well documented here, i've never had any problems yet.. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07970339546 e: paul@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com ------------------------- IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA ---------------------------------------------------- High Specification Dedicated Servers from £100.00pm ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 2 00:05:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C172B6 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 00:05:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553F9721 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 00:05:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r12059uW022817; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 17:05:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r12058TL022814; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 17:05:08 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 17:05:08 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Gary Aitken Subject: Re: Crucial SSD firmware upgrade -- usb flash drive issues In-Reply-To: <510C30D3.1070405@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: References: <510C0166.7070301@dreamchaser.org> <510C30D3.1070405@dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 01 Feb 2013 17:05:09 -0700 (MST) Cc: Sean Cavanaugh , 'FreeBSD Mailing List' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 00:05:19 -0000 On Fri, 1 Feb 2013, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 02/01/13 11:03, Sean Cavanaugh wrote: >> >> Please see the below site for a script to convert the .ISO into a .IMG that >> can be dd written to the thumb drive >> >> http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=4361 That looks to be specific to converting a FreeBSD installer CD to memory stick... which of course is not needed any more. The implications of trying to custom build an SSD firmware update image from a CD could be big, and it's really not something to experiment with unless you feel lucky. >From a user support standpoint, the first thing to do is send a "Why aren't you supporting your users with a memory stick firmware update? Many people no longer have CD drives." Practically speaking, that is not likely to result in a quick result, or possibly any result. So use a program they recommend, or use an external CD drive to update the firmware. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 2 01:42:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72991DF7 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 01:42:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x236.google.com (ie-in-x0236.1e100.net [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EDF4979 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 01:42:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k14so4020078iea.41 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 17:42:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=tSffFoWuDTTiFw0U0eZy2/4KuadgFUXiUjouKFO3en4=; b=PnZAavz+yLVk2a+CGntZcmR7viGSJaCjgyxnGcnwABKjY79wJ/tT5kMwRS+poCY+Nw XI5vASsD3zP3MiLRqyIkC3C29JkH/3lDLCCboDxsPcKdiOhqsDnw2GFcyNy+IfmE08R4 Dzv/pa7ZAy61ssyLbkyPZcjAX74TB99Az1fLLreH/Z4XKQKwpnBrvmXzmGnanbiSHlFW UPGvinanJYOotrCJoIXfaPpuYqjvIWxz7nxq5Xv3E3ihVqSC9YSX017zWCGWi/LA0UNN cnGxqn19QyR7yVx1PRM2IeTQJZvkF1va4Gftyzio2N5Hh5EVxSllY17Eva3Jwx8/iUmq HO2g== X-Received: by 10.42.121.1 with SMTP id h1mr10873568icr.43.1359769352457; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 17:42:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from luna.wi.rr.com (cpe-184-58-138-79.wi.res.rr.com. [184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bh3sm4704515igc.0.2013.02.01.17.42.30 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 01 Feb 2013 17:42:31 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Opera Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 19:42:19 -0600 Message-ID: <3869488.94aLn8erW8@luna.wi.rr.com> User-Agent: KMail/4.9.5 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.9.5; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 01:42:33 -0000 Hi! I use Opera 12.12. I use KDE 4 and Fluxbox. In operaprefs.ini I have [File Selector] Dialog Toolkit=4 which help me that Opera works othervise I get: libpng error: incorrect data check libpng error: incorrect data check Segmentation fault (core dumped) This happened on KDE but without above lines in operaprefs.ini, Opera works without problem on Fluxbox. What is different, please? Thank you. Mitja ---------- http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 2 05:29:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315A9692 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 05:29:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zoran@uranus.mtveurope.org) Received: from jazz.linuxshell.org (jazz.as199071.net [193.189.137.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAFC7FFA for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 05:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zoran by jazz.linuxshell.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U1VIg-0005dT-Mu for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 06:06:02 +0100 Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 06:06:02 +0100 From: Zoran Kolic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Crucial SSD firmware upgrade -- usb flash drive issues Message-ID: <20130202050602.GA21444@uranus.mtveurope.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 05:29:15 -0000 If I understand correctly, it is iso image from ssd manufacturer. They tend to think everybody uses win and has cd drive. Quick search might give easy answer, if win/linux box is available. You could try out unetbootin. Tutorial says it takes an image and makes bootable usb stick. Best regards Zoran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 2 05:46:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1324E870 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 05:46:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from redcondor2.peak.org (redcondor2.peak.org [69.59.192.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2DBECA for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 05:46:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zmail-mta01.peak.org ([207.55.16.111]) by redcondor2.peak.org ({6c724cae-de34-4c5f-b615-3072b86419fa}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20130202054609056 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 05:46:09 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from bonsai.localnet (rad0.peak.org [69.59.192.40]) by zmail-mta01.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DB21C460315 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 21:46:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from oak.localnet (oak.localnet [192.168.193.34]) by bonsai.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE6F3D59B for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 21:46:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from oak.localnet (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by oak.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F40BE43 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 21:46:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from carlj@localhost) by oak.localnet (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id r125k7mo063127; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 21:46:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.localnet: carlj set sender to carlj@peak.org using -f From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update problems References: <87obg3bynm.fsf@oak.localnet> <20130201232636.f451dc9b4b24292c3e887f82@gmail.com> <87fw1fbqe1.fsf@oak.localnet> <510C51BB.6010404@ifdnrg.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 21:46:07 -0800 In-Reply-To: <510C51BB.6010404@ifdnrg.com> (Paul Macdonald's message of "Fri, 01 Feb 2013 23:37:31 +0000") Message-ID: <87wqur5kv4.fsf@oak.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MAG-OUTBOUND: peakinternet.redcondor.net@207.55.16/22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 05:46:11 -0000 Paul Macdonald writes: > On 01/02/2013 22:50, Carl Johnson wrote: >> G=C3=B6k=C5=9Fin Akdeniz writes: >> >>> Fri, 01 Feb 2013 11:51:41 -0800 tarihinde >>> Carl Johnson yazm=C4=B1=C5=9F: >>>> Does anybody have any suggestions on what might have happened and what >>>> can be done? >>>> >>> Hello Carl, >>> >>> What does "# uname -a" or "# uname -r" output says? >> It still shows 8.1, but another poster just pointed out that I hadn't >> installed my upgrade. I need to read the man pages more carefully. >> Thanks. >> > > Better link: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html= #freebsdupdate-using Thanks, that link is much clearer than the version of the handbook that came with my 8.1 system. --=20 Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 2 05:52:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2578B92E for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 05:52:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3DEEB for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 05:52:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r125puNc017367 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 22:51:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <510CA97C.4030607@dreamchaser.org> Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 22:51:56 -0700 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121116 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Crucial SSD firmware upgrade -- usb flash drive issues References: <20130202050602.GA21444@uranus.mtveurope.org> In-Reply-To: <20130202050602.GA21444@uranus.mtveurope.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Fri, 01 Feb 2013 22:51:57 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 05:52:04 -0000 On 02/01/13 22:06, Zoran Kolic wrote: > If I understand correctly, it is iso image from ssd manufacturer. > They tend to think everybody uses win and has cd drive. Quick > search might give easy answer, if win/linux box is available. You > could try out unetbootin. Tutorial says it takes an image and > makes bootable usb stick. On 02/01/13 17:05, Warren Block wrote: > The implications of trying to custom build an SSD firmware update image from a CD could be big, and it's really not something to experiment with unless you feel lucky. > >> From a user support standpoint, the first thing to do is send a "Why > aren't you supporting your users with a memory stick firmware update? Many people no longer have CD drives." > > Practically speaking, that is not likely to result in a quick result, or possibly any result. So use a program they recommend, or use an external CD drive to update the firmware. The mfg claims the iso image is suitable for booting either from CD or a usb stick; with the caveat that you use some magic software to write the bootable usb stick. I guess I'll just find a way to write a CD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 2 09:02:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9107C6D for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 09:02:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A3E6F1 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 09:02:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=NqdTgrhJ c=1 sm=0 a=lLOF/jpPrR0dcgWXP1EvZg==:17 a=xCuMbNp8hPoA:10 a=R5FhY6rjjCMA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Ymsr-CWnAAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=DunbYskJk1LZsh0pdoQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=lLOF/jpPrR0dcgWXP1EvZg==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 204.210.114.114 Received: from [204.210.114.114] ([204.210.114.114:63920] helo=localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 28/83-20194-806DC015; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 09:02:01 +0000 Received: by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 002CA5D19; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 23:04:27 -1000 (HST) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 23:04:27 -1000 From: Parv To: ajtiM Subject: Re: Opera Message-ID: <20130202090427.GA13275@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: ajtiM , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3869488.94aLn8erW8@luna.wi.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3869488.94aLn8erW8@luna.wi.rr.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 09:02:03 -0000 in message <3869488.94aLn8erW8@luna.wi.rr.com>, wrote ajtiM thusly... > > Hi! > > I use Opera 12.12. I use KDE 4 and Fluxbox. > In operaprefs.ini I have > [File Selector] > Dialog Toolkit=4 > > which help me that Opera works othervise I get: > libpng error: incorrect data check > libpng error: incorrect data check > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > > This happened on KDE but without above lines in operaprefs.ini, Opera works > without problem on Fluxbox. > > What is different, please? (Go to "opera:config" by typing in the address bar. Then in the search field (one with magnifying lend), type "toolkit". You will then see only "File Selector: Dialog Toolkit" option. When you click the "[?]" icon, you will the values (0-4) and short explanation.) With that out of way, option value "4" tells opera to "use X11 for file selector" instead of auto detected one, Qt, GTK, or KDE one. Seems like any or all of opera, kde, png library need to be rebuilt, possibly along with other respective dependencies. Sorry, I couldn't be of much help with this. -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 2 11:35:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C740DC5 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 11:35:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22f.google.com (ie-in-x022f.1e100.net [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22f]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBC0B67 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 11:35:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id c12so4277642ieb.34 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 03:35:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=tQVvHEjdUyHh3NhFWYunGvQQmZxKPnCt/6QZa6VzBN4=; b=yed7EU/CV5Tgz6P5d3DwkUZdLBfLRPEu6kS0emM/cDHVPHP8SnS1atLxyYIj2zUvoP iL7wuwK3/E3+iosfIQShmojU605fY2ts5D7eF4xqhevMDU2Q1yNhMov/xm/8C8McuK1z ro7+pL3tuNtQStXgkbHn4RuME3z3zF5pnfd9hYp81AYnVHlwjV1SSQXouHAgSN94JXNu JiNs7sLcUkbxX70AV0bksuWpPbSpLp+pNywUX/buBUJyRxyxeeDDbMCX9Hbx1XWYJK9G sjkiS/7jbwRFJmz1QTtbm4NxPPeuGU7MJpUOPGGRU7EAVTmT59jRspfB33h8kkG+0wCT yfaw== X-Received: by 10.50.36.134 with SMTP id q6mr1105630igj.98.1359804957795; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 03:35:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from luna.wi.rr.com (cpe-184-58-138-79.wi.res.rr.com. [184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k5sm6624697igq.9.2013.02.02.03.35.56 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 02 Feb 2013 03:35:56 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Opera Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 05:35:46 -0600 Message-ID: <2100605.FkMPeIdZJE@luna.wi.rr.com> User-Agent: KMail/4.9.5 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.9.5; i386; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20130202090427.GA13275@holstein.holy.cow> References: <3869488.94aLn8erW8@luna.wi.rr.com> <20130202090427.GA13275@holstein.holy.cow> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 11:35:58 -0000 On Friday 01 February 2013 23:04:27 Parv wrote: > in message <3869488.94aLn8erW8@luna.wi.rr.com>, > wrote ajtiM thusly... > > > Hi! > > > > I use Opera 12.12. I use KDE 4 and Fluxbox. > > In operaprefs.ini I have > > [File Selector] > > Dialog Toolkit=4 > > > > which help me that Opera works othervise I get: > > libpng error: incorrect data check > > libpng error: incorrect data check > > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > > > > This happened on KDE but without above lines in operaprefs.ini, Opera > > works > > without problem on Fluxbox. > > > > What is different, please? > > (Go to "opera:config" by typing in the address bar. Then in the > search field (one with magnifying lend), type "toolkit". You will > then see only "File Selector: Dialog Toolkit" option. When you click > the "[?]" icon, you will the values (0-4) and short explanation.) > > With that out of way, option value "4" tells opera to "use X11 for > file selector" instead of auto detected one, Qt, GTK, or KDE one. > > Seems like any or all of opera, kde, png library need to be rebuilt, > possibly along with other respective dependencies. Sorry, I couldn't > be of much help with this. Looks like Opera has problem autodetect on KDE but not in Fluxbox. Thank you very much for explanation. Mitja ---------- http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 2 13:11:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028CA617 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 13:11:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm23-vm6.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm23-vm6.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.109.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F5A9D9 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 13:11:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.54] by nm23.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2013 13:11:31 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.73] by tm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2013 13:11:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp110.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2013 13:11:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1359810691; bh=vWf5h1ACwlwNB3IpPbz/6qc471NZzRdUrjVvxy2KOPU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:Date:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:User-Agent; b=mS0qOpYcVzofqszRgTijJUWhmEZjFdts7+wcQWPfgdqYl/UAeI26Yo0JB+3bEFI70bMaiDyWD5lX+dCKv7phHPAAzbfNVp3MffG6rWJezGPDSy7RJrFdl9koH+IRX3Xe0UEoEnlNibFQlUE2+0tw1M0yQ8EiohUDfQPlIRFnI8k= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 838152.56997.bm@smtp110.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: C4ThtKAVM1mivE0m64AAmYv4jNDbXCFfmMEKVpn4ydLsfAM XDnQC1cknu_86hS23hasDa1JbsBs9FwVQhoV4p6O3x1z4rP_qw6zGcxxemHP Ipo0mWtGOzN62C4QBRTS2DeNmrmpBjcbpejDL9ow25923YU7t.ii9V_FVziN 1xC22wP4bgoW62Fxbjw9Y3_uzPQJ20.47ATrmGG3P4pGTX6g6fMFZWoiD3aK s9QNxx9snSoGLDDUgQcpPr1bgdLlmTnfEf3YUumSBtEhQHtech8mn6ts4Tr9 fFUfMhkJANnjLZPUM23tpoP_ply3TWkDNJVmzMlV.w82mFa4NWMr9qAc6HdP I7T6rwcpRJ.PWUlPFea4Low4dk_DZndhT..X6BqZS2gqoCRvW2YXy4hwGHgj wdVoMz9ECTIbZ9_0nF6GSNWnglW5SfRaOS_Gg3JlDqXmlT1Y- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@92.231.5.224 with login) by smtp110.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Feb 2013 13:11:31 +0000 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 14:11:30 +0100 To: "FreeBSD quest" Subject: Evolution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 13:11:42 -0000 Does Evolution support maildir? 2.32.1 seems to support mbox only. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 2 13:16:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7FE7D3 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 13:16:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B632103 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 13:16:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-191.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.191]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC773D8DB; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 14:16:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r12DGbuI001973; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 14:16:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 14:16:37 +0100 From: Polytropon To: ajtiM Subject: Re: Opera Message-Id: <20130202141637.a636ece1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <3869488.94aLn8erW8@luna.wi.rr.com> References: <3869488.94aLn8erW8@luna.wi.rr.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 13:16:42 -0000 On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 19:42:19 -0600, ajtiM wrote: > Hi! > > I use Opera 12.12. I use KDE 4 and Fluxbox. > In operaprefs.ini I have > [File Selector] > Dialog Toolkit=4 > > which help me that Opera works othervise I get: > libpng error: incorrect data check > libpng error: incorrect data check > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > > This happened on KDE but without above lines in operaprefs.ini, Opera works > without problem on Fluxbox. > > What is different, please? I don't see an obvious difference except that "something" seems to be wrong with your PNG library. Is everything in sync? Or is some mechanism relying on libpng malfunctioning somewhere else? Regarding Opera: For better integration with desktop environments newer versions can "emulate" the DE's native dialogs instead of using its own one (which was superior in functionality). If you enter "about:config" in your address bar and search for "toolkit", you will find the corresponding setting with the following explanation: File dialog toolkit 0 = Autodetect toolkit to use for file selector 1 = Use Qt for file selector (deprecated, will fall back to KDE) 2 = Use GTK for file selector 3 = Use KDE for file selector 4 = Use X11 for file selector Maybe this causes trouble in your specific "non-mainstream" setting? However I can't imagine how... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 2 13:19:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B957B881 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 13:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686D3122 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 13:19:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-191.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.191]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F3A3E115; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 14:19:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r12DJHew001978; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 14:19:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 14:19:17 +0100 From: Polytropon To: ajtiM Subject: Re: Opera Message-Id: <20130202141917.f49bb93c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <2100605.FkMPeIdZJE@luna.wi.rr.com> References: <3869488.94aLn8erW8@luna.wi.rr.com> <20130202090427.GA13275@holstein.holy.cow> <2100605.FkMPeIdZJE@luna.wi.rr.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 13:19:15 -0000 On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 05:35:46 -0600, ajtiM wrote: > Looks like Opera has problem autodetect on KDE but not in Fluxbox. This is because Fluxbox is neither KDE or Gnome. :-) But simply coredumping is a bad "default value" for how to act when not using KDE or Gnome. I'm using Opera on WindowMaker here for many years without that specific error (11.50 at the moment), so maybe another sign for disimproved software... :-( -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id xn10sm6347867igb.4.2013.02.02.05.55.35 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 02 Feb 2013 05:55:35 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Opera Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:55:25 -0600 Message-ID: <6848103.pkhZqIaE7x@luna.wi.rr.com> User-Agent: KMail/4.9.5 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.9.5; i386; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20130202141917.f49bb93c.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <3869488.94aLn8erW8@luna.wi.rr.com> <2100605.FkMPeIdZJE@luna.wi.rr.com> <20130202141917.f49bb93c.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 13:55:37 -0000 On Saturday 02 February 2013 14:19:17 Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 05:35:46 -0600, ajtiM wrote: > > Looks like Opera has problem autodetect on KDE but not in Fluxbox. > > This is because Fluxbox is neither KDE or Gnome. :-) > > But simply coredumping is a bad "default value" for how to act > when not using KDE or Gnome. I'm using Opera on WindowMaker > here for many years without that specific error (11.50 at the > moment), so maybe another sign for disimproved software... :-( As I remember a "problem" started with Opera 12?? (I forgot which one but 12 for sure). Thank you. Mitja ---------- http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 2 14:18:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E6D538 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 14:18:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan0sch@gmx.net) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561F936A for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 14:18:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.17]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx002) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M2Jfm-1UrYDK1Bhs-00s2KM for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 15:18:06 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Feb 2013 14:18:05 -0000 Received: from dslb-088-072-246-042.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO magni.rostock.home) [88.72.246.42] by mail.gmx.net (mp017) with SMTP; 02 Feb 2013 15:18:05 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1545395 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18Kp99cYCgKx5Nu9CASQL/zgERMirU5GLy56y4tdW wLUMhr8Ewd+vtV Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 15:17:47 +0100 From: Jens Jahnke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Opera Message-Id: <20130202151747.baeda30afab6cc638e0db2bd@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <6848103.pkhZqIaE7x@luna.wi.rr.com> References: <3869488.94aLn8erW8@luna.wi.rr.com> <2100605.FkMPeIdZJE@luna.wi.rr.com> <20130202141917.f49bb93c.freebsd@edvax.de> <6848103.pkhZqIaE7x@luna.wi.rr.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) X-Face: &?!P`87-36gaG)/K:yi&ixw=uy]y'?$vrc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA512"; boundary="Signature=_Sat__2_Feb_2013_15_17_47_+0100_yW2.PWwtRLjU3dVq" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 14:18:07 -0000 --Signature=_Sat__2_Feb_2013_15_17_47_+0100_yW2.PWwtRLjU3dVq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:55:25 -0600 ajtiM wrote: A> On Saturday 02 February 2013 14:19:17 Polytropon wrote: A> > On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 05:35:46 -0600, ajtiM wrote: A> > > Looks like Opera has problem autodetect on KDE but not in A> > > Fluxbox. A> >=20 A> > This is because Fluxbox is neither KDE or Gnome. :-) A> >=20 A> > But simply coredumping is a bad "default value" for how to act A> > when not using KDE or Gnome. I'm using Opera on WindowMaker A> > here for many years without that specific error (11.50 at the A> > moment), so maybe another sign for disimproved software... :-( A>=20 A> As I remember a "problem" started with Opera 12?? (I forgot which A> one but 12 for sure). For me problems started with 12.10 (12.12 currently). After some update opera wouldn't start anymore. It simply bailed out saying "failed to setup core". I never had the time to nail the reason down exactly. Had something to do with gstreamer and xorg stuff updates. Right now on 9.1 it is running and I hope it will stay that way. Regards, Jens --=20 02. Hornung 2013, 15:14 Homepage : http://www.jan0sch.de QOTD: "Everything I am today I owe to people, whom it is now too late to punish." --Signature=_Sat__2_Feb_2013_15_17_47_+0100_yW2.PWwtRLjU3dVq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQG8BAEBCgAGBQJRDSAcAAoJED2+SXzzbciGPwINAIyYOi77TsYT5NaH9BcSpKK4 dHrcUczOnh3v2j9Zlpv439soAYolbpoG6Uq6j3RjESFEgrc/ZKmVtw9E78mN2W9y 9Gr03k4DHTf3qPHoGxptZbXJ+vZAR+k0ZhYLxREJiMRUaWEDyd1BskJ+x3V7qyNV LOfYi4rH+TULQx36WZsFcfunord2w5XOXwUCdw6QJgAP3Ad8vKHB0WaPxxgrS1HB G5BIQJGcR4Y0BhiTb597DUZQyAXOvHCXOgLxSOpYu6lqUrfZdCBSM3VVFnkPDVVM S8LJeR1FtH59sduu/z5NIqLpmvUL14fpgAi0PTY7tkwWai7b/LQmFJtPO5c47+Fe waahmGCTJRDi5+u0BEBH/+idwtb94aLt04q0Jpq/unfGiUlcu2ni36aNKY0MJpi+ WxD4lRefM4BsJMWE6AUAd0tJv7HTjmqzA7KOtGgRGj978k847UbQAFg4lBTzejcM 6Uf/Q22Da86eQoWJt7QNvz05k06I7uCSMtmquQDwgcbCeIED3uJIp/2AQVHlxSXc 44BK3rO/ujKLfPnzm//8 =Mdha -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Sat__2_Feb_2013_15_17_47_+0100_yW2.PWwtRLjU3dVq-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 2 15:51:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81D6D62 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 15:51:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andre@drenet.info) Received: from mail-ye0-f176.google.com (mail-ye0-f176.google.com [209.85.213.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF998EC for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 15:51:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ye0-f176.google.com with SMTP id m1so1205750yen.7 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:51:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=drenet.info; s=google; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :x-enigmail-version:content-type; bh=ZIOl5M1njv+DJky3lxU29N4wtcs8lHLi7Iiz9pxXjMI=; b=Q9LN/JiiOdwq2V5Onqfr/jhjHdyplOI/EnPQuXoEdq5R0rjiYjda5vlBbjsiDTGM1N kszv7lc236U5feJ1hAW0cgJD60kX5myC+a/BGHA/LhkZxkzbFhYPvq1zg8wNvba6rLV0 gbdu13YzFe2ZYXkC5faIK8NWUw6a9DERY9O8U= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :x-enigmail-version:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=ZIOl5M1njv+DJky3lxU29N4wtcs8lHLi7Iiz9pxXjMI=; b=Bqi+ivbLXbC3X4CbY8lNLDPcHUyczoDfoYOaPyXIgwIXmtrf2fmrfYF1L6eQmvf9U9 GLcYDpjKgk3Dh+kpsGJWH+78PXsZ+D5bqbmhnAs/ZZzwrxlJqN4LBRjVUWRDOdaeL1TQ N/CpnhtFEyDoZ5fhVth8WlGRBIJMSJHqDi3nwirXWcDibQSfRJnGmYGat161MbBAW0y0 xHrkSCi1nh9SW58VlooaE6uQ8r+Onx/zUNHZoewIUZB9wOpkF3IRhRLp5+CQXMILFUr+ CvYjZ2t4Es11Q8VbWa3bDjd4vgCIkWeBVrx4wMflF1ZmPrM05mEDPHLXFxqlLXxlb0LU 6RBQ== X-Received: by 10.236.89.7 with SMTP id b7mr19145448yhf.123.1359820284668; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:51:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from desktop.drenet.local ([97.100.190.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f16sm10517169ann.9.2013.02.02.07.51.23 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:51:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <510D35F8.8010004@drenet.info> Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 10:51:20 -0500 From: Andre Goree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130118 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kde@freebsd.org Subject: tmux and konsole characters X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9D0FFE943A30CEE722D3D071" X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlM4XTzM/Do6ycAsPSHUUNmHtl6/IDRZJ7j8WSCoriElLl0FQyxMPkiJvxi5STDmoG7TU+z X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 15:51:31 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9D0FFE943A30CEE722D3D071 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm having an issue with tmux on certain ssh connections. When I connect to my freebsd server's tmux session that has multiple panes in one window, everything looks fine. However, when I connect to my linux box, I get this weird character [1] instead of a line as I would expect. Any ideas on how I can fix this? Really just an annoyance rather than a real issue, but I'm sure someone has come across this before and fixed it. Googling wasn't much help -- though I did find some solutions, they did not work for me. [1]http://www.drenet.net/images/snapshot2.png --=20 Andre Goree andre@drenet.info --------------enig9D0FFE943A30CEE722D3D071 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRDTX6AAoJEJQrkaCSFIoRUE8IAJAAtDritUkJXqNQgVFlSGpy DTuBCu/a+B2qBHvGiDnDEGtNg19gZoNUcIYjIuKPLIXZXxddjTJJjWkdAQj7HIex EB9QsohTiXZa3o9Et2pgKqZSV4XTJRpcL8+kmNO64/Fotf0IkgZ007/DQp8xeZKi 2u80LTnLkq/RcTQHGuYz8y94c7IwXAdpvc/Ft6DyzuS8DDQUf3xl59xY9XiZrgmO YzJZ2nuiY+oVpEqSFhswitKuS27u2Qve/kGqYK054CtJHbHSeHjsaXdS/0uKFpVt GVZdUdwSBBLnvtuxQr+GhFrb9w7AIucrSIFQcx08oplRW90RK/9cVUF1A0ytDIA= =mwVE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig9D0FFE943A30CEE722D3D071-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 2 15:54:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B41E20 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 15:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@mansionfamily.plus.com) Received: from avasout03.plus.net (avasout03.plus.net [84.93.230.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD138909 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 15:54:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.barnhouse ([31.185.130.18]) by avasout03 with smtp id vTrk1k0060PxlpK01TrlbQ; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 15:51:46 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Df3JXIRW c=1 sm=1 a=tiXXM7TPXonwaQBWSuDPaA==:17 a=sEz04tew6TsA:10 a=B3-UUf3TchQA:10 a=ihvODaAuJD4A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=wIHFKv9EmJ0A:10 a=_Knjkw6--LfO8-CjQEQA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=tiXXM7TPXonwaQBWSuDPaA==:117 Received: from [192.168.0.96] (workstation.barnhouse [192.168.0.96]) by server.barnhouse (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12740681415; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 15:54:36 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <510D360E.7090100@mansionfamily.plus.com> Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 15:51:42 +0000 From: james User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Kraus Subject: Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice? References: <5105BEE4.4030402@mansionfamily.plus.com> <5105D611.4000506@ShaneWare.Biz> <7D460604-8F6B-454F-B717-678F64A75062@kraus-haus.org> In-Reply-To: <7D460604-8F6B-454F-B717-678F64A75062@kraus-haus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: james@mansionfamily.plus.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 15:54:56 -0000 On 28/01/2013 16:10, Paul Kraus wrote: > I have been using ZFS with GPT partitions with no issues. I have NOT compared performance between whole disk and partitioned, which is where the difference in Solaris arises (ZFS makes better use of the physical drive's write cache). Well, it is the write cache manipulation and flushing that I'd like to have turned on. Anyone know what the score is with FreeBSD? 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[98.212.197.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id rd10sm6757356igb.1.2013.02.02.08.22.35 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 02 Feb 2013 08:22:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <510D3D46.7080806@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 10:22:30 -0600 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tmux and konsole characters References: <510D35F8.8010004@drenet.info> In-Reply-To: <510D35F8.8010004@drenet.info> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 16:22:37 -0000 On 2/2/2013 9:51 AM, Andre Goree wrote: > I'm having an issue with tmux on certain ssh connections. When I > connect to my freebsd server's tmux session that has multiple panes in > one window, everything looks fine. However, when I connect to my linux > box, I get this weird character [1] instead of a line as I would expect. > > Any ideas on how I can fix this? Really just an annoyance rather than a > real issue, but I'm sure someone has come across this before and fixed > it. Googling wasn't much help -- though I did find some solutions, they > did not work for me. > > [1]http://www.drenet.net/images/snapshot2.png > > It's just a $TERM issue by the looks of it. If you set $TERM in any of your .cshrc scripts, or .profile, it's probably set to something different than what Konsole's using. Try running `setenv TERM xterm-color` before running tmux and see if that fixes it. Run `echo $TERM` just so you can know what it is set to. You'll have to track down where it changes to prevent it in the future. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 2 16:45:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3DD783 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 16:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from surge3@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x22b.google.com (la-in-x022b.1e100.net [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993E9A98 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 16:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f43.google.com with SMTP id ek20so3511003lab.2 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 08:45:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=c45Gz0ALDS9V1AXxPHE9jWZfFw5LY+gUT3CKF1oQe1Y=; b=r7hmHpuvbJE/3zYyl4sgQH2pYx9zSy8KjYzQvJ6P+9TjsT/HanG1EZkT+OKc9oDP1h S5YUNZB7ehSnDZU/JEfl/db3VOmkadNtnVtUxEBvdVeGEHPUSAd8T4PtkmeO3ClMgQK3 0wUCRpv5ueOm9WdepdrSwbWKb+U+ecSxhXUTm2tJ4eOgtSiahLIpyNif4IVutn9auQHR hp764Y1DZjbgq2ny3k2TkpnzDQOsV1ZK9RYYjf1yj+9IZ3q/SU9sRvQ1H6YGUdml1ngK NHzNIrHiGQoGBaN5/+1yifKtgQoB8mwB33TMfvHplD/Dl+vUqQrcIvZ2bfNenC3U5qVw 17CA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.49.106 with SMTP id t10mr874725lbn.6.1359823505559; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 08:45:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.52.135 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 08:45:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 11:45:05 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: zoneedit.com From: Nick K To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: surge3@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 16:45:07 -0000 I am posting here hoping that a "Dan" from ZoneEdit.com still monitors this mailing list. I am in a very bad situation and my mail forwarding has been down for over a week -- no response from ZoneEdit support. I found references to people getting help from "Dan" here: http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2011-01/msg00504.html My issue(s): 1.) I can't login to zoneedit.com's "new" interface. I used to be able to log in to the "legacy" interface -- but apparently I'm in the same boat as Mr. Jack L. Stone was -- in that you can no longer manage zones from the legacy interface. The legacy interface tells me my account is active at the new interface, but the new interface tells me my account does not even exist. 2.) My mail forwarding service provided by zoneedit.com stopped working approximately last week monday. It has been working fine since 2002. Don't you just love it when this stuff happens. 3.) I can't change my DNS / mail forwarding service, because the email I used for my domain registration at my registrar is one of the emails that gets forwarded (and the forwarding is not working). If Jack L. Stone or "Dan" from ZoneEdit can get in contact with me I would be very grateful. I don't know what else to do at this point. The company that currently owns ZoneEdit (Dotster) won't help me -- they say they don't have the ability to provide support for ZoneEdit customers. This is my last hope pretty much. Dan or Jack if you're out there, please get back to me. surge3@gmail.com -- ~ Nick K. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 2 17:11:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DF84CC2 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 17:11:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andre@drenet.info) Received: from mail-gh0-f169.google.com (mail-gh0-f169.google.com [209.85.160.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FEE3BE1 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 17:11:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-gh0-f169.google.com with SMTP id r18so1254522ghr.0 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 09:11:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=drenet.info; s=google; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; bh=p73m8XvLhWxU55Px0JOZEA5NmBAMFxIvA0VbRJorugk=; b=ZJjUCNLV/zFjN1C8veT/LAIx86UFbD9ayaPUR33smQtzT/84VzvkFoQCpIs2y85Ila SIP8KvHJPoZXHoZ9DvyqdY2Echbu8XMBFBKTVOx/Krh9lVsCesmY8qxYfiifh+C+75ci JhoCWXge+aDr2I3oaHXX3/ke72Lu4j65ziwS0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=p73m8XvLhWxU55Px0JOZEA5NmBAMFxIvA0VbRJorugk=; b=K4MOFkLsiJNvRMgIpD4+urOShSePat3z9vnTV3qzyH4tiCmR+4LeRjwhMmQ4pnChmk dnmfT1nF8yCHgRKhVxgY89acyIDLR6kJ2ZoB8pAdoK703RsLfW244vLKf8ah3teQE1f7 +Qt7PSM4PXVrhQ6ordsW/sGT7Qgr+KEHhrtvHpvoUtpJfffYRB1bL11+kpBl4jgHqNBZ NNjZHtVlY1wHo0eYEASXEco6y7ogbR33hu75GqxcdnlXZ3O5Xh79q+oE+PDmRZbLlLdp X0equOTKrJXnhg1LLC26ddDKL/Aurku6nHo9ZRvQJOzLzlP3cDf/C2kPytsxJya8cSu1 ITZA== X-Received: by 10.236.151.76 with SMTP id a52mr19289578yhk.107.1359824704941; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 09:05:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from desktop.drenet.local ([97.100.190.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v43sm19750710yhm.11.2013.02.02.09.05.04 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 02 Feb 2013 09:05:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <510D473F.6090302@drenet.info> Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 12:05:03 -0500 From: Andre Goree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130118 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tmux and konsole characters References: <510D35F8.8010004@drenet.info> <510D3D46.7080806@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <510D3D46.7080806@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3F2626B3A138AD4133F01FC1" X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmKZF15jDriqY3dBrc7Y8o0UvEd1gQgeN0P40hM8BScsAuuUfipWFR6C5+7eKmy/hlVasUI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 17:11:52 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3F2626B3A138AD4133F01FC1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/02/13 11:22, Joshua Isom wrote: > On 2/2/2013 9:51 AM, Andre Goree wrote: >> I'm having an issue with tmux on certain ssh connections. When I >> connect to my freebsd server's tmux session that has multiple panes in= >> one window, everything looks fine. However, when I connect to my linu= x >> box, I get this weird character [1] instead of a line as I would expec= t. >> >> Any ideas on how I can fix this? Really just an annoyance rather than= a >> real issue, but I'm sure someone has come across this before and fixed= >> it. Googling wasn't much help -- though I did find some solutions, th= ey >> did not work for me. >> >> [1]http://www.drenet.net/images/snapshot2.png >> >> >=20 > It's just a $TERM issue by the looks of it. If you set $TERM in any of= > your .cshrc scripts, or .profile, it's probably set to something > different than what Konsole's using. Try running `setenv TERM > xterm-color` before running tmux and see if that fixes it. Run `echo > $TERM` just so you can know what it is set to. You'll have to track > down where it changes to prevent it in the future. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Thanks, I'm actually using bash as a shell, probably should've mentioned that. Anywho: [agoree@desktop ~]$ grep TERM .* =2Ebash_history:echo $TERM =2Eprofile:# Setting TERM is normally done through /etc/ttys. Do only override =2Eprofile:# TERM=3Dcons25; export TERM [agoree@desktop agoree]$ echo $TERM xterm Looks like it's not being set in .profile (it's commented), and echoing $TERM displays "xterm". So it would appear I'm not changing it anywhere.= I tried the following, and get the same weird looking characters in place of lines when connecting to the remote box (which is running Linux, btw): [agoree@desktop agoree]$ echo $TERM xterm [agoree@desktop agoree]$ export TERM=3Dxterm-color [agoree@desktop agoree]$ ssh sideswipe-dt Last login: Sat Feb 2 10:34:53 2013 from 172.16.10.246 [agoree@sideswipe-DT ~]$ tmux attach --=20 Andre Goree andre@drenet.info --------------enig3F2626B3A138AD4133F01FC1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRDUc/AAoJEJQrkaCSFIoRFYAH/1AzpH5BLeewIqWwWrGYlzZf vo0sgaoAUuC5JbEpbIZH4tnbNIyzUwRWFD56dULdaHQkb21ptTq8Om3dRtaL7dJm giOQmu8c4NpENQLAdnUlqpPDfzAYE9HY+TEyv1BsZh2ipTgkB4PdTT1Q1ZMc3i4C ps43MxAHvaFwoofB3oRCoZPcJkq4I+0sXXNjiqvo6g1P17zqxOA6/j3XKR5iYHh0 +CrweTkuRpXqS6zE2GnxMvHfZtudHkTVyK6rLM9wj8CHnutu9EJREolvb8PSb4oC D+FFQb47upcmTABM1lWOz9qKvJqv2xUuRwOvYawkNerker+n0cwD6bIA/78mb/A= =+C41 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig3F2626B3A138AD4133F01FC1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 2 17:30:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C69FC2 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 17:30:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-x231.google.com (mail-ia0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c02::231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06564D0E for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 17:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f177.google.com with SMTP id h8so6433660iaa.8 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 09:30:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MgWv47SYqJTLWvuVwwDcsHgiSC3AJHmGpUgmXh9oIcE=; b=PzYbJc3roV3X3IF9+LUrnDeDATvZIXZOZ3kFBUSsiKqH5pU5ob0XkIjhnG1Xzwv+zj +ApiCt37PVjfIwolJkcbvry6GPQeotprT/1JyzuFYty5qxyVdF+ELTEKoi4iSFhoCImD gRkpqZZ16T1bkQ27nTwyF0mWKKqAyfgrSf5WlMSQYjzWwxblWExrQBuShG283gUN2HrE EC1MUPsAzC42djh+ofUUzDOMtkt/ikMLQifVODh5ZcF0B+KfsUB/pa7H1TN5cjgYis+S egr/YMGa/aClGrVYyASlF/nvZ5b1eEb455zJL4lRvlYANV75zxnZFwWsTP6j7Qr/Mu1y i81Q== X-Received: by 10.42.82.136 with SMTP id d8mr12046684icl.31.1359826245690; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 09:30:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.14] (c-98-212-197-211.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.212.197.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fa6sm7632718igb.2.2013.02.02.09.30.44 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 02 Feb 2013 09:30:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <510D4D40.1040504@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 11:30:40 -0600 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tmux and konsole characters References: <510D35F8.8010004@drenet.info> <510D3D46.7080806@gmail.com> <510D473F.6090302@drenet.info> In-Reply-To: <510D473F.6090302@drenet.info> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 17:30:46 -0000 On 2/2/2013 11:05 AM, Andre Goree wrote: > Thanks, I'm actually using bash as a shell, probably should've mentioned > that. Anywho: > > [agoree@desktop ~]$ grep TERM .* > .bash_history:echo $TERM > .profile:# Setting TERM is normally done through /etc/ttys. Do only > override > .profile:# TERM=cons25; export TERM > > [agoree@desktop agoree]$ echo $TERM > xterm > > Looks like it's not being set in .profile (it's commented), and echoing > $TERM displays "xterm". So it would appear I'm not changing it anywhere. > > I tried the following, and get the same weird looking characters in > place of lines when connecting to the remote box (which is running > Linux, btw): > [agoree@desktop agoree]$ echo $TERM > xterm > [agoree@desktop agoree]$ export TERM=xterm-color > [agoree@desktop agoree]$ ssh sideswipe-dt > Last login: Sat Feb 2 10:34:53 2013 from 172.16.10.246 > [agoree@sideswipe-DT ~]$ tmux attach > What's your $TERM after you ssh to sideswipe-dt? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 2 18:19:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45368B75 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 18:19:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andre@drenet.info) Received: from mail-gh0-f179.google.com (mail-gh0-f179.google.com [209.85.160.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB41BF0F for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 18:19:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-gh0-f179.google.com with SMTP id r14so1245389ghr.24 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 10:19:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=drenet.info; s=google; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; bh=XXkqVVmhFbBKk0PHfaGOxWSJp3HZ/8MHSVQXXuBz/Eo=; b=b281P8YnEZtZrKfD4fOJem6jdwvMTeeCm6fTJ+C2cBuzOGd5l0ewZGTstpR1g2vivz +ylrw20qzi0K/hcgiwA9qKc9hIgnjJ+C0cd+fih0V+/aK27SHdxk2MFFE2yivUP/TlqO MpZh6c6v7KHVMSkiUXTfB17JC4gPOEObQZ0Zk= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=XXkqVVmhFbBKk0PHfaGOxWSJp3HZ/8MHSVQXXuBz/Eo=; b=MrJ5s08nXOruxXE7r+rGNYXPAroWrZMC75O468Fct5l4F5peXcsp/W3So5XelQs2wV MJFUdl/sEwKfVcrH4Q6KRtXF/iorUReE3t8wBY3B/TkvfBc/VCKki25GMh1eGMVEojFh 61SjSoE0ksejy3gThhM4liQLGiT8uGJmEBllL93o1Jy9AgukE1fMzwyJ/xD6spLXmQVt IR/GnmVfc7WDxNcz781a5PwmMGTvmjaksMgf3jzWcZ6LyMM2ja/MquBiRYxRU6XM9QTx 46YitOe+Ac0VZJbf9nNptoJMGzJWWh3vr/YZrUt8In8Eerd97aS63t0pUr2F+kMD0eKA gPPw== X-Received: by 10.236.149.146 with SMTP id x18mr19473671yhj.29.1359829160658; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 10:19:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from desktop.drenet.local ([97.100.190.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d4sm10832419anh.21.2013.02.02.10.19.19 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 02 Feb 2013 10:19:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <510D58A5.70505@drenet.info> Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 13:19:17 -0500 From: Andre Goree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130202 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tmux and konsole characters References: <510D35F8.8010004@drenet.info> <510D3D46.7080806@gmail.com> <510D473F.6090302@drenet.info> <510D4D40.1040504@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <510D4D40.1040504@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5BF3EFD04167721BC8AE0646" X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkhKDQaiYHnzSuP/rdgcXwnIg2D+52Hx6mcuwWqQteZhFF0ICaeNU9Fj1GFa5lGFs3GHXGs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 18:19:28 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5BF3EFD04167721BC8AE0646 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/02/13 12:30, Joshua Isom wrote: > On 2/2/2013 11:05 AM, Andre Goree wrote: >> Thanks, I'm actually using bash as a shell, probably should've mention= ed >> that. Anywho: >> >> [agoree@desktop ~]$ grep TERM .* >> .bash_history:echo $TERM >> .profile:# Setting TERM is normally done through /etc/ttys. Do only >> override >> .profile:# TERM=3Dcons25; export TERM >> >> [agoree@desktop agoree]$ echo $TERM >> xterm >> >> Looks like it's not being set in .profile (it's commented), and echoin= g >> $TERM displays "xterm". So it would appear I'm not changing it anywhe= re. >> >> I tried the following, and get the same weird looking characters in >> place of lines when connecting to the remote box (which is running >> Linux, btw): >> [agoree@desktop agoree]$ echo $TERM >> xterm >> [agoree@desktop agoree]$ export TERM=3Dxterm-color >> [agoree@desktop agoree]$ ssh sideswipe-dt >> Last login: Sat Feb 2 10:34:53 2013 from 172.16.10.246 >> [agoree@sideswipe-DT ~]$ tmux attach >> >=20 > What's your $TERM after you ssh to sideswipe-dt? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" [agoree@sideswipe-DT ~]$ echo $TERM xterm Thanks for the assistance. --=20 Andre Goree andre@drenet.info --------------enig5BF3EFD04167721BC8AE0646 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRDVinAAoJEJQrkaCSFIoRxYMH/1aK7vbrha5zw6eR9jiWd3I8 FRGg+BtuBS5Hwsvv9pk2uE/EvnngcZxvf6EdG4xrBU8haBf/3wML+9e/9w8ieGcn BNJVM18C+dTlwDvg3K9juSdlHAIyZq4V6YQPaZueO4JfL2shop4Fzo4ErXQfQOFp PLzkMHR9kpQqsGCffSF5lReqW62Y+HCZswSQkUx1rtwkm0Bzc1UF2SuMqyvekv38 aG4M4GKX8un063OGlcJog14Sw2oOgu/tE/zvavt6JrjA/Jxre9Iw2kPretg368DM Wu35oK4fkyg+RBHgcNfb0ZHUBqVhM/fiu5dzO01olObqBgzC05+muqq7vJAn6+s= =VNp1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5BF3EFD04167721BC8AE0646--