From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 16:21:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F3139CA; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 16:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu (i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu [128.104.255.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3402231E; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 16:21:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530FE3806A; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 11:21:16 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at icecube.wisc.edu Received: from i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id rcI1W60vRkWL; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 11:21:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from comporellon.tachypleus.net (polaris.tachypleus.net [75.101.50.44]) by i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 047EA38069; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 11:21:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <53CBEC7B.9030204@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 09:21:15 -0700 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML , x11@freebsd.org Subject: Please test: use /dev/mem instead of /dev/console for memory-mapping framebuffers in X11 on PowerPC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 16:21:23 -0000 I would appreciate any tests or comments on the following patch (which is working fine on my hardware). The goal is to move X drivers from using /dev/console to map device memory to using /dev/mem, as on x86 systems. This makes it so that the kernel framebuffer driver does not have to allow mapping of all physical memory and can behave like an actual framebuffer driver and along the way fixes some highly dubious behaviors of the ppc_video module on FreeBSD. The patch to libpciaccess may also result in some performance improvement. http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/ppc-xorg-devmem.diff Please let me know if there are any regressions or other issues. -Nathan From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 02:07:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75A84AD7 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 02:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asp.reflexion.net (outbound-243.asp.reflexion.net [69.84.129.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 135142511 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 02:07:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20595 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2014 02:07:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-cs-01.app.dca.reflexion.local) (10.81.19.1) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with SMTP; 21 Jul 2014 02:07:17 -0000 Received: by mail-cs-01.app.dca.reflexion.local (Reflexion email security v7.30.6) with SMTP; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 22:07:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3834 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2014 02:07:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iron2.pdx.net) (69.64.224.71) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 21 Jul 2014 02:07:16 -0000 X-No-Relay: not in my network Received: from [192.168.1.8] (c-98-246-178-138.hsd1.or.comcast.net [98.246.178.138]) by iron2.pdx.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 41D061C4390 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 19:07:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Millard Subject: The default driver/mode used for PowerMac G5 Radeon 9800PRO's messes up all normal text display by default... Message-Id: Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 19:07:14 -0700 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 02:07:25 -0000 [Context: Xorg -configure generated xorg.conf file for a G5 (7,2), = except for explicit alternatives noted for noAccel and SubPixelOrder. = Also this is the same SSD used for booting NVidia based PowerMac G5's = (7,11's) that have no such problems for the distinct Xorg -configure = file generated for them. uname -a reports for this SSD: FreeBSD FBSDG5S0 10.0-STABLE FreeBSD 10.0-STABLE #0 r268571: Sun Jul 13 = 06:28:19 UTC 2014 = root@grind.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/powerpc.powerpc64/usr/src/sys/GENERIC64 = powerpc (just freshly installed a day or so ago) and the "portsnap fetch = extract" was executed earlier today. ] The "user experience" report for what I've observed: The PowerPC64 "ATI Radeon 9800PRO NH (AGP)" driver used in a PowerMac G5 = (7,2) messes up *all* normal text display unless Option "NoAccel" is = enabled: menu text, window titles, input fields, label text, all such = text. (Basic desktop display, simple dialogs and windows from programs, = nothing fancy involved.) When the problem exists in my context the = xorg.conf is strictly as generated by Xorg -configure when in this type = of PowerMac. The other normal graphics seem fine: only text is messed up for these = basic displays. But the compositing results are messed up if they are = turned one to try to provide a visual difference around/near windows. With "NoAccel" disabled (acceleration on) so the text problem happens = NONE and BGR for SubPixelOrder are messed up the same way and RGB = SubPixelOrder changes how it looks but the result is still just messed = up text. This is on an Apple ADC FlatPanel. (An Apple ADC CRT also gets = the issue.) Some internal interface to accelerated text handling does = not map things in memory as required as far as I can tell. (But I've = only explored SubpixelOrder and NoAccel changes so far. I've not tried = to make compositing work: I just turned it back off.) I did find one part of one example display that is simple to describe, = possibly due to font size details for my context and my text size = settings: The "Logout Charlie Root" text in the logout dialog had = vertical strips missing (i.e., just the background color showing) from = the middle or sides of letters but enough of each letter was present to = be able to tell what each letter was. The strips might also have had = some small amount of extra space compared to pure what "white-out" would = be (?unsure!). Also with the logout dialog up the whole display got a = significant red tint. All of this may suggest byte/bit order handling issues for the text when = acceleration is enabled. Or possibly the 24 bits of color information in = a 32 bit representation being mishandled relative to acceleration = interfaces for handling such. Unfortunately I'm only around the PowerMac's for a couple of days again = before being far from them for a considerable time. So for now there are = limits to what I can do to help isolate things --nor will I be able to = provide the test case of that G5 until I'm back round them again. But I = figured an explicit note was better then saying nothing. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 02:26:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6860FE90 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 02:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asp.reflexion.net (outbound-243.asp.reflexion.net [69.84.129.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0608B26A8 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 02:26:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 4722 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2014 02:26:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-cs-01.app.dca.reflexion.local) (10.81.19.1) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with SMTP; 21 Jul 2014 02:26:07 -0000 Received: by mail-cs-01.app.dca.reflexion.local (Reflexion email security v7.30.6) with SMTP; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 22:26:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 982 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2014 02:26:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iron2.pdx.net) (69.64.224.71) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 21 Jul 2014 02:26:07 -0000 X-No-Relay: not in my network Received: from [192.168.1.8] (c-98-246-178-138.hsd1.or.comcast.net [98.246.178.138]) by iron2.pdx.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0866C1C4390 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 19:26:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Millard Message-Id: <653F809A-C7E1-4326-88F5-104F7FA76EB1@dsl-only.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: The default driver/mode used for PowerMac G5 Radeon 9800PRO's messes up all normal text display by default... Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 19:26:02 -0700 References: To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 02:26:09 -0000 Hmm. I see that I managed to not mention that this context is/has = xfce4's desktop and standard/included programs involved, along with just = xscreensaver having been added. (It is from a preliminary stage of = installing things before more might be added.) =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi@dsl-only.net On Jul 20, 2014, at 7:07 PM, Mark Millard wrote: [Context: Xorg -configure generated xorg.conf file for a G5 (7,2), = except for explicit alternatives noted for noAccel and SubPixelOrder. = Also this is the same SSD used for booting NVidia based PowerMac G5's = (7,11's) that have no such problems for the distinct Xorg -configure = file generated for them. uname -a reports for this SSD: FreeBSD FBSDG5S0 10.0-STABLE FreeBSD 10.0-STABLE #0 r268571: Sun Jul 13 = 06:28:19 UTC 2014 = root@grind.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/powerpc.powerpc64/usr/src/sys/GENERIC64 = powerpc (just freshly installed a day or so ago) and the "portsnap fetch = extract" was executed earlier today. ] The "user experience" report for what I've observed: The PowerPC64 "ATI Radeon 9800PRO NH (AGP)" driver used in a PowerMac G5 = (7,2) messes up *all* normal text display unless Option "NoAccel" is = enabled: menu text, window titles, input fields, label text, all such = text. (Basic desktop display, simple dialogs and windows from programs, = nothing fancy involved.) When the problem exists in my context the = xorg.conf is strictly as generated by Xorg -configure when in this type = of PowerMac. The other normal graphics seem fine: only text is messed up for these = basic displays. But the compositing results are messed up if they are = turned one to try to provide a visual difference around/near windows. With "NoAccel" disabled (acceleration on) so the text problem happens = NONE and BGR for SubPixelOrder are messed up the same way and RGB = SubPixelOrder changes how it looks but the result is still just messed = up text. This is on an Apple ADC FlatPanel. (An Apple ADC CRT also gets = the issue.) Some internal interface to accelerated text handling does = not map things in memory as required as far as I can tell. (But I've = only explored SubpixelOrder and NoAccel changes so far. I've not tried = to make compositing work: I just turned it back off.) I did find one part of one example display that is simple to describe, = possibly due to font size details for my context and my text size = settings: The "Logout Charlie Root" text in the logout dialog had = vertical strips missing (i.e., just the background color showing) from = the middle or sides of letters but enough of each letter was present to = be able to tell what each letter was. The strips might also have had = some small amount of extra space compared to pure what "white-out" would = be (?unsure!). Also with the logout dialog up the whole display got a = significant red tint. All of this may suggest byte/bit order handling issues for the text when = acceleration is enabled. Or possibly the 24 bits of color information in = a 32 bit representation being mishandled relative to acceleration = interfaces for handling such. Unfortunately I'm only around the PowerMac's for a couple of days again = before being far from them for a considerable time. So for now there are = limits to what I can do to help isolate things --nor will I be able to = provide the test case of that G5 until I'm back round them again. But I = figured an explicit note was better then saying nothing. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 23:12:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-powerpc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9FCEAB4 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 23:12:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x236.google.com (mail-ig0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE73022B4 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 23:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ig0-f182.google.com with SMTP id c1so807926igq.9 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:12:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xk/OGldbhKIxKX63xKTI3dZ1/2hqy0tfLaHsQnouV7o=; b=xa634WqHQ+Yacqn+GsSOVJmVE/0Blp6g2aIc3MWUHlLd5KdhHDz31LUAbe7dbetZWx pJG7NNjqH7SSUQGnuAd1eRicPugLHKqXWhaev26aLdHW+fkuFIdx1GpBlYHYSaYLmmXe 457Pln9m7dlLyn1UIqVYjv22OMCr7sfwlTDpo1ePWQa9Rwxd02U/c9nVpBvKuuPOOruE 7LbeA2FZIuUUdlMimz1Jl150thYSPLz7wyKAPQbQckCtuEo2RXktCXXFN6royTYdYgmU oBIENugZdkwtC/6P1v63Lhe1ZedRueUh0w/zFeaS2itdyheWh+C9g0va8OacsRcaawB/ gq3w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.138.72 with SMTP id qo8mr21546649igb.2.1406070761035; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.213.102 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:12:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? From: Garrett Cooper To: freebsd-powerpc@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 23:12:44 -0000 Hi all, I tried getting FreeBSD-ppc/-ppc64 to run on qemu recently with the 9/10/11 release media and I ran into boot issues (or probably user error in booting up qemu with the images) -- the image would hang right around mountroot. I was wondering if anyone has a working recipe for how I would start up qemu with powerpc, or if there was an alternative piece of software available for emulating powerpc that could be used in general purpose automation? Thank you :)! -Garrett From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 23:24:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-powerpc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FB7EDB6 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 23:24:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-x22f.google.com (mail-oi0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2897823A0 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 23:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-f47.google.com with SMTP id x69so275350oia.34 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:24:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=rZFFocthIzoA1YYCCjxgH9jLtkdJLNY/IXToKHhDz5E=; b=03E/hXc0Rlg8PbDdsUzRcoPpMWxjjZYXazsLETsQt/+g1Eanm6rYxnzVdKHgR0m1/y mpTiMvdI5hHhedtcuEGDacwABYreQIwICDreEwwK5pUGIx/6iTJ9UUB6aB5i9ae297LN yRFmE8lUdJlpzw3Lv2wLT3wleS4NCAHP7F5CcGYMpg54gTFjgHw7LQGoQS4h+uuRmt1a AWf9w1xddjBLyB7/5QhnnGi6KdPQ/mneWVNyERzZhqrjDDHX8dX8TPsUn2z35jqyIqxT rN/sYfT/S6vRV6SmTbjYWIFlRwzg83WVSRKDtTt3Q6kc+lqAWvsYOKM71WNnpj3+lDzH XEKg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.33.35 with SMTP id o3mr54877505oei.7.1406071461220; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.53.170 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:24:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 19:24:21 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? From: Joe Nosay To: Garrett Cooper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: "freebsd-powerpc@freebsd.org" , "qemu-ppc@nongnu.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 23:24:25 -0000 On Tuesday, July 22, 2014, Garrett Cooper > wrote: > Hi all, > I tried getting FreeBSD-ppc/-ppc64 to run on qemu recently with > the 9/10/11 release media and I ran into boot issues (or probably user > error in booting up qemu with the images) -- the image would hang > right around mountroot. > I was wondering if anyone has a working recipe for how I would > start up qemu with powerpc, or if there was an alternative piece of > software available for emulating powerpc that could be used in general > purpose automation? > Thank you :)! > -Garrett > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > You need to send these types of queries to the qemu-ppc lists. On the qemu-ppc list, please check the original email and forward the answers to Mr Cooper. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 03:52:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-powerpc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84A1476E for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 03:52:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c.mail.sonic.net (c.mail.sonic.net [64.142.111.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BC872945 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 03:52:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zeppelin.tachypleus.net (polaris.tachypleus.net [75.101.50.44]) (authenticated bits=0) by c.mail.sonic.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s6N3qQqJ025084 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 22 Jul 2014 20:52:32 -0700 Message-ID: <53CF317A.4010404@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 20:52:26 -0700 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garrett Cooper , freebsd-powerpc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sonic-CAuth: UmFuZG9tSVazJNRGNauWLsVtCiRI0ekXdcn9LD5P4HLNFpuL2yrGBW6iRbIrivFlLPePNYr68B+32iYw87bJ2Bzc+S9ami49DILGq3TLY+w= X-Sonic-ID: C;GvHlwhwS5BGTavI5oK8kYw== M;TkpQxhwS5BGTavI5oK8kYw== X-Spam-Flag: No X-Sonic-Spam-Details: 0.0/5.0 by cerberusd X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 03:52:39 -0000 If you use emulators/qemu-devel (i.e. a non-ancient version of QEMU), it should just work out of the box for ppc64. -Nathan On 07/22/14 16:12, Garrett Cooper wrote: > Hi all, > I tried getting FreeBSD-ppc/-ppc64 to run on qemu recently with > the 9/10/11 release media and I ran into boot issues (or probably user > error in booting up qemu with the images) -- the image would hang > right around mountroot. > I was wondering if anyone has a working recipe for how I would > start up qemu with powerpc, or if there was an alternative piece of > software available for emulating powerpc that could be used in general > purpose automation? > Thank you :)! > -Garrett > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 04:43:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 525F6D5F for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 04:43:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asp.reflexion.net (outbound-244.asp.reflexion.net [69.84.129.244]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E33082CFC for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 04:43:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10569 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2014 04:36:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-cs-02.app.dca.reflexion.local) (10.81.19.2) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with SMTP; 23 Jul 2014 04:36:27 -0000 Received: by mail-cs-02.app.dca.reflexion.local (Reflexion email security v7.30.6) with SMTP; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 00:36:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28054 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2014 04:36:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iron2.pdx.net) (69.64.224.71) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 23 Jul 2014 04:36:27 -0000 X-No-Relay: not in my network Received: from [192.168.1.8] (c-98-246-178-138.hsd1.or.comcast.net [98.246.178.138]) by iron2.pdx.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A97621C4388 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 21:36:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Millard Subject: Please test: use /dev/mem instead of /dev/console for memory-mapping framebuffers in X11 on PowerPC Message-Id: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 21:36:25 -0700 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 04:43:10 -0000 I tried two general types of contexts: G5/PowerPC64 and G4/PowerPC, all = PowerMacs. Unfortunately I could only complete the G5 tests (no problems = found). The G4 context had problems without the patch and so did not = provide a known-good context to compare to --and I ran out of time for = getting past that. Xorg + xfce4 basic context, xorg.conf as produced by Xorg -configure for = the video hardware except as explicitly noted below, startxfce4 used to = see what would happen. G5's... The SSD was moved between the G5's and so only one build was involved, = but separate Xorg -configure's were used. uname -a : FreeBSD FBSDG5S0 10.0-STABLE FreeBSD 10.0-STABLE #0 r268571: = Sun Jul 13 06:28:19 UTC 2014 = root@grind.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/powerpc.powerpc64/usr/src/sys/GENERIC64 = powerpc. Basic use for the PowerMac G5's (PowerPC64) did not show any problems = with applying the patch and rebuilding what was dependent. It ended up = working the same as before the patch from what I could see. Two variants = used: PowerMac G5 (7,11), GeForce 7800 GT PowerMac G5 (7,2), Radeon 9800PRO NH (AGP) (That last already had NoAccel enabled so that text displays correctly = --and still does for the patch test: bug-for-bug compatible, bug-for-bug = matching workaround.) Other than needing to use NoAccel for the Radeon: the original and = updated builds for the above went fine. The usage seemed to match before = vs. after the patch. G4's... Unfortunately I'm not going to be able to be a test case for the patch = for the G4's (PowerPC). Details follow for why I could get that far in a = straight forward/quick manor. Example uname -a : FreeBSD FBSDG4S0 10.0-STABLE FreeBSD 10.0-STABLE #0 = r268571: Sun Jul 13 05:15:31 UTC 2014 = root@grind.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/powerpc.powerpc/usr/src/sys/GENERIC = powerpc Two separate SSDs and so 2 separate builds involved for the G4's. = Swapping SSD's and swapping the xorg.conf's to match the video HW did = not change the behavior below. The G4's and their video are working fine = for Mac OS X 10.5. I had not built Xorg or xfce4 for the G4's yet and it takes a while, = using most of the time I had left for this activity before I'm away from = the PowerMacs for a significant time (again). Once built the original = (un-patched) builds did not work for either G4 context... PowerMac G4 (3,6), GeForce4 Ti 4600: UI hangs during the initial xfce4 = "welcome" screen update, frequently without the background being = finished. What is displayed seems fine as far as it got. Can still = Option-Fn just fine to get back to VTn and use it. PowerMac G4 (3,6), ATI Radeon 9000/PRO If (AGP/PCI): Immediate random, = varying garbage displayed, not a static image: complete loss of a = coherent or even stable image. Stays that way. Unable to Option-Fn. I = tried typing blind but got no evidence that it did anything. I do not have the time to investigate or get past these issues before = I'll be away from these PowerMacs for a long time. The Radeon the log = file for the above is essentially the same as it produced for Xorg = -configure for the Radeon. The two times in [...]'s for the below are = 0.001 apart in each example I've seen and a bunch of the prior lines had = the same [...] as the first shown below in each case. No (EE)'s or the = like: [...] Number of create screens does not match number of detected = devices. Configuration failed. [...] Server terminated with error (2). Closing log file. I'm afraid that I need to stop on this activity with that much = information for a significant time. Sorry. Side note: Earlier when I experimented with buildworld (nothing changed = and not installed, just built) the build times were about: Each PowerMac G5 (7,11), 2.5GHz quad, 16GB, -j 6: 2 hr (add about 0.5 hr = for buildkernel) PowerMac G5 (7,2), 2.0GHz dual, 12 GB, -j 4: 4 hr (add about 1 hr for = buildkernel) Each PowerMac G4 (3,6), 1.42GHz dual, 2GB: 8 hr (add about 2 hr for = buildkernel) (-j 2, -j 3, and -j 4 had problems for the G4's so I did not use -j for = the G4's. portmaster -m MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE=3Dyes for the G4's for ports = also seems to be frequently required and was involved in building xorg = and xfce4.) =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi@dsl-only.net From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 11:58:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-powerpc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE32463E for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 11:58:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from s16892447.onlinehome-server.info (s16892447.onlinehome-server.info [82.165.15.123]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 697B72808 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 11:58:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 5ec2da17.skybroadband.com ([94.194.218.23] helo=[192.168.1.81]) by s16892447.onlinehome-server.info with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1XAdml-00079y-5Z; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 12:35:40 +0100 Message-ID: <53D24103.3090603@ilande.co.uk> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 12:35:31 +0100 From: Mark Cave-Ayland User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Nosay , Garrett Cooper References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 94.194.218.23 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on s16892447.onlinehome-server.info X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Subject: Re: [Qemu-ppc] Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Sun, 08 Jan 2012 02:45:44 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on s16892447.onlinehome-server.info) Cc: "freebsd-powerpc@freebsd.org" , "qemu-ppc@nongnu.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 11:58:54 -0000 On 23/07/14 00:24, Joe Nosay wrote: > On Tuesday, July 22, 2014, Garrett Cooper > wrote: > > Hi all, > I tried getting FreeBSD-ppc/-ppc64 to run on qemu recently with > the 9/10/11 release media and I ran into boot issues (or probably user > error in booting up qemu with the images) -- the image would hang > right around mountroot. > I was wondering if anyone has a working recipe for how I would > start up qemu with powerpc, or if there was an alternative piece of > software available for emulating powerpc that could be used in general > purpose automation? > Thank you :)! > -Garrett > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > You need to send these types of queries to the qemu-ppc lists. On the > qemu-ppc list, please check the original email and forward the answers > to Mr Cooper. Hi Garrett, I'm not strictly a PPC developer, however I do spend a lot of time developing and testing OpenBIOS for SPARC and as part of this tend to test various PPC images to ensure that no regressions are introduced. As you noted FreeBSD-ppc gets fairly far these days; I can imagine that you're either seeing an issue with properties on PCI devices or possibly a bug in machine emulation. Can you share the command line you are using to launch QEMU? While I don't have the ability to look at this myself, I suspect anyone with a debug PPC kernel setup would be able to find the issue fairly easily. I tend to be around on the qemu-ppc list so if anyone is interested enough to participate, please start a thread there and I'll pick it up there. ATB, Mark. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 16:49:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-powerpc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDD7B7F4 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 16:49:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x22e.google.com (mail-pd0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0EB7254B for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 16:49:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f174.google.com with SMTP id fp1so5967404pdb.33 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 09:49:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=tam2mZmBMsXWQC9RrgeywOiCdkMCBU0bd13zlP0ufNI=; b=ddfLJgL93dGkMwcZksv1T5Mt0Fpn/KPOIlebTp3KMbhZ/PZ16IKsPGgQscLEHVL55R 4wdYKcTYN7gIdbmB69FZchiTmod+TmD8pyZOmkapvCQuvJS7oewaRaJv7HANBgqGnvua 0xAFstwyr8YW72sz0bKenwpfJtlT6xliF0ADI9gGtYlabmS4V99yI32Q1gp8bAvyWzxo j9PUdic3pRc4XYZxrwT8qEovhrTD2QYEaoORUobSW2LV8lu+SmvKvkSoqm+xBxX4ied5 EWTsTMuIVhacmfy6FahgLYSjqRYI3um86BgZcbLPS658On/KRTY+npPkRLeDmxU5cW97 S+BA== X-Received: by 10.66.90.163 with SMTP id bx3mr20134372pab.51.1406306952263; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 09:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.70.198.149] (mobile-166-137-214-144.mycingular.net. [166.137.214.144]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qf3sm8856361pdb.60.2014.07.25.09.49.10 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 25 Jul 2014 09:49:11 -0700 (PDT) References: <53D24103.3090603@ilande.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <53D24103.3090603@ilande.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <486EFD03-4770-466B-83E8-3E3D61D9B793@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D257) From: Garrett Cooper Subject: Re: [Qemu-ppc] Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 09:49:07 -0700 To: Mark Cave-Ayland Cc: "freebsd-powerpc@freebsd.org" , "qemu-ppc@nongnu.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 16:49:13 -0000 > On Jul 25, 2014, at 4:35, Mark Cave-Ayland = wrote: >=20 >> On 23/07/14 00:24, Joe Nosay wrote: >>=20 >> On Tuesday, July 22, 2014, Garrett Cooper > > wrote: >>=20 >> Hi all, >> I tried getting FreeBSD-ppc/-ppc64 to run on qemu recently with >> the 9/10/11 release media and I ran into boot issues (or probably user= >> error in booting up qemu with the images) -- the image would hang >> right around mountroot. >> I was wondering if anyone has a working recipe for how I would >> start up qemu with powerpc, or if there was an alternative piece of >> software available for emulating powerpc that could be used in general= >> purpose automation? >> Thank you :)! >> -Garrett >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"= >>=20 >>=20 >> You need to send these types of queries to the qemu-ppc lists. On the >> qemu-ppc list, please check the original email and forward the answers >> to Mr Cooper. >=20 > Hi Garrett, >=20 > I'm not strictly a PPC developer, however I do spend a lot of time develop= ing and testing OpenBIOS for SPARC and as part of this tend to test various P= PC images to ensure that no regressions are introduced. >=20 > As you noted FreeBSD-ppc gets fairly far these days; I can imagine that yo= u're either seeing an issue with properties on PCI devices or possibly a bug= in machine emulation. Can you share the command line you are using to launc= h QEMU? >=20 > While I don't have the ability to look at this myself, I suspect anyone wi= th a debug PPC kernel setup would be able to find the issue fairly easily. I= tend to be around on the qemu-ppc list so if anyone is interested enough to= participate, please start a thread there and I'll pick it up there. Hi Mark, Nathan Whitehorn from FreeBSD replied to me earlier on this week and pro= vided some hints for getting qemu working with ppc64. I'll try booting FreeB= SD again this weekend with qemu to see whether or not his hints work. If I r= un into any issues I'll be sure to email the list :). 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From: Joe Nosay To: Garrett Cooper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: "freebsd-powerpc@freebsd.org" , "qemu-ppc@nongnu.org" , Mark Cave-Ayland X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 17:38:21 -0000 On Friday, July 25, 2014, Garrett Cooper wrote: > > > On Jul 25, 2014, at 4:35, Mark Cave-Ayland < > mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk > wrote: > > > >> On 23/07/14 00:24, Joe Nosay wrote: > >> > >> On Tuesday, July 22, 2014, Garrett Cooper > >> ');>> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi all, > >> I tried getting FreeBSD-ppc/-ppc64 to run on qemu recently with > >> the 9/10/11 release media and I ran into boot issues (or probably > user > >> error in booting up qemu with the images) -- the image would hang > >> right around mountroot. > >> I was wondering if anyone has a working recipe for how I would > >> start up qemu with powerpc, or if there was an alternative piece of > >> software available for emulating powerpc that could be used in > general > >> purpose automation? > >> Thank you :)! > >> -Garrett > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > >> > >> > >> You need to send these types of queries to the qemu-ppc lists. On the > >> qemu-ppc list, please check the original email and forward the answers > >> to Mr Cooper. > > > > Hi Garrett, > > > > I'm not strictly a PPC developer, however I do spend a lot of time > developing and testing OpenBIOS for SPARC and as part of this tend to test > various PPC images to ensure that no regressions are introduced. > > > > As you noted FreeBSD-ppc gets fairly far these days; I can imagine that > you're either seeing an issue with properties on PCI devices or possibly a > bug in machine emulation. Can you share the command line you are using to > launch QEMU? > > > > While I don't have the ability to look at this myself, I suspect anyone > with a debug PPC kernel setup would be able to find the issue fairly > easily. I tend to be around on the qemu-ppc list so if anyone is interested > enough to participate, please start a thread there and I'll pick it up > there. > > Hi Mark, > Nathan Whitehorn from FreeBSD replied to me earlier on this week and > provided some hints for getting qemu working with ppc64. I'll try booting > FreeBSD again this weekend with qemu to see whether or not his hints work. > If I run into any issues I'll be sure to email the list :). > Thanks! > -Garrett Thanks, for helping out Mr Cooper. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 21:23:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26E15F1C for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 21:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asp.reflexion.net (outbound-245.asp.reflexion.net [69.84.129.245]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C747F2327 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 21:23:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 9404 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2014 21:23:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-cs-03.app.dca.reflexion.local) (10.81.19.3) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with SMTP; 26 Jul 2014 21:23:11 -0000 Received: by mail-cs-03.app.dca.reflexion.local (Reflexion email security v7.30.6) with SMTP; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 17:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23654 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2014 21:23:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iron2.pdx.net) (69.64.224.71) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 26 Jul 2014 21:23:11 -0000 X-No-Relay: not in my network Received: from [192.168.0.108] (ip98-160-185-241.lv.lv.cox.net [98.160.185.241]) by iron2.pdx.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CDD201C4385 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 14:23:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Millard Subject: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? [.iso based CD boot problems exist for PowerMac G5's too] Message-Id: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 14:23:07 -0700 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 21:23:19 -0000 This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to emulation = (assuming it is the same problem in both places). I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same way/place = whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to = a CD. I was able to boot 10.0-RELEASE's .iso burned to a CD. I've not = tried emulation. Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST and .txz = files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not = buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such. My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were = reported in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately) FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11) boot = hangs very early in the process Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to = CD? A multi-processor one? =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 22:11:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39BF3CA0 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 22:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu (i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu [128.104.255.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5B82632 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 22:11:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46C638091 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 17:11:24 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at icecube.wisc.edu Received: from i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id oWgMaUlFYm03 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 17:11:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from comporellon.tachypleus.net (polaris.tachypleus.net [75.101.50.44]) by i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A3DF238090 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 17:11:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <53D4278B.4030106@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 15:11:23 -0700 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? [.iso based CD boot problems exist for PowerMac G5's too] References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 22:11:26 -0000 On 07/26/14 14:23, Mark Millard wrote: > This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to emulation (assuming it is the same problem in both places). > > I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same way/place whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to a CD. I was able to boot 10.0-RELEASE's .iso burned to a CD. I've not tried emulation. > > Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST and .txz files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such. > > My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were reported in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately) > > FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11) boot hangs very early in the process > > Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to CD? A multi-processor one? > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > What is the problem you see on your powermacs? In other words, when exactly is "very early"? Did the kernel start or did it stop in loader? Have you tried an 11-CURRENT snapshot? At the 11 ISOs work out of the box with qemu-system-ppc64 (just tried with FreeBSD-11.0-CURRENT-powerpc-powerpc64-20140714-r268622-bootonly.iso) and I haven't heard any other problem reports of anything on hardware. -Nathan