From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 16 11:52:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88C9A84F for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 11:52:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm23-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.81]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28B02170D for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 11:52:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [216.39.60.169] by nm23.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2014 11:50:07 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.98] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2014 11:50:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2014 11:50:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1392551407; bh=Lp7zsz2ruQEyB3V0Jc65kpkWGzAe5Dn6loHmPFmfGX8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:Date:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:References:Subject; b=ftFU9bfq7pOxlUmfRnP7q1Gq+3SkpeYquHlt39zNbaIjI5ewWLETAT3MAJINIwP23hANAqvPUyTQbxeS0CCpcS9fWU7PRuBlRxlEqwF+pndYp/oXCPNZXa4l3JHanuCvGnldO0h+1NlamQ1rrI0RfBt56V9tNwrPTFuPu5hw/NA= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 737911.68463.bm@smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Message-ID: <737911.68463.bm@smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 11:50:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 4kT0PRkVM1nyxTA.o4_q5eRqdsFnMuWRnnUSVlMiPvzsjPN woUjJH3PU.2GZ5j8iQ5dyx0c9.n1QLiCQNgOFj0gNSjh1syijYx_LqHP9OlS ww2L65tRKHcu10sRtsDqFAB5.xnHK0bBzB1bse5C45HYQfcy5LCQKdCyOe_4 EBWkoWVU3Xf8o27ApQyiZ1toJG_in73uQDy2KiCM0y4xWz3VNabXWVPmr4aZ mSzNAG4Q967Y63ybt09FS2rTk_hXjItvUxXwd86BL0Bt4G08S4B3xAd0.P48 x2mFH8FMrnhuw_MWAeTW0yycnylgp4maMb_40UGslxK_Gki3l0iB8ASPxr2m 2TW9cHtm4oqbtd0vFYOqXwIzmgbEbGIV5XwgQy1GkPdBSVdgkBdpVp4M27Y_ _NCVWaLybiawUxjLOJYsJkZ0iWmKF195T5U0E8THNn5Qf3JpeQiZZKIInryT ZrgKI4BGF2qrDf4oNou_qw6sBNWd5o6TyGB7ZjiXviu97mNS5dSJD3BiomzR NCemii7Qx_yPHSCdxZuEEeIr3omVUBWyS8NqLtI9VXKxebiIKeY6JqFcPZQA quZY4AQc5Uu4QMaft3QqtwMNF X-Yahoo-SMTP: Kz_aW1.swBBYof3zAD7.RWzXz9ZAQVDMml1VADsbgPT4Kq79LC0- X-Rocket-Received: from localhost (mueller6724@96.28.178.143 with plain [98.138.31.74]) by smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2014 11:50:07 +0000 UTC From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: Subject: Re: Trouble installing from thumb drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 11:52:57 -0000 from Walter Hurry: > I'm trying to install FreeBSD-10.0-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img (dd'd to a memory stick). > I can boot from the memory stick but it gets stuck at mountroot, with error 19. > I have verified the checksum of the downloaded image, and it's fine. > What other information can I provide so as to enable some kind soul to identify the problem? I have a FreeBSD 10-stable installation on a 32 GB USB 3.0 stick where I often get the mountroot> prompt. Responding ufs:/dev/gpt/FBSDUSB3i386-root works for me. Otherwise, you could fish for the device node, maybe ufs:/dev/da0s1a assuming the USB stick is MBR-partitioned. If you could read the messages, that would help, but they might have scrolled by irretrievably. It would help if you could read the partition table or partitioning scheme of that USB stick. You could also tweak /boot/loader.conf on the USB stick, like maybe kern.cam.scsi.delay="13000" # This is in milliseconds kern.cam.boot.delay="16000" # Again in milliseconds vfs.mountroot.timeout="10" # This is in seconds, I'm thinking of raising this to 20 Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 16 15:29:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C32C4DFD for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ve0-x231.google.com (mail-ve0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c01::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 825A61687 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f177.google.com with SMTP id jz11so10892272veb.8 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 07:29:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pp/ZERkmx7SIgAT0barcKc74F7paxxUpPjTb4Z9/9Pw=; b=TxBy4bZ2LRKCZvFZWBVv1Y/G1/MQ3mEEwbHM2tKc34bN+UWbuDMoz4y8R3IrGoOZO2 Bx3oIKJE1SjvOTqCXvMWPaGCCm+jiRvLzzY0jJf5gGqzMQ3ujtg3Y+tUfkuhM3HpkZSg r94JisYz6gCOER5tuv7LrwZyFWcjlfh0qZjhZVolUAEWbMv1qBnE97k3i+kEVh8BrhaQ nhntTrQCdvolTtOATShFIOaSzcA72YbWXPFbKoSM1KoygDE3Gc1YrDrkbkHC6ysZ+Xo7 XfQnXsrfxJDTyWxZkfNZE7j5uTNbySeNLsEqcomMD2Ya86gcHR8YgLe27dGxfsWRLvHV 7MUg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.233.67 with SMTP id tu3mr5567084vdc.17.1392564585591; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 07:29:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.138.18 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 07:29:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.138.18 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 07:29:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 17:29:45 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Greetings from finland From: Sami Koponen To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:29:46 -0000 I would be interested to support you guhs with finnish mailing list if you are in need of this. Keep up the good work ! -SAMI KOPONEN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 16 15:41:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 33093AF for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:41:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-x234.google.com (mail-oa0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0AFE1752 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id i4so16321328oah.25 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 07:40:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Y/8wMVscbN16ps4S6TrHsXW9VPKg+PXI0aCWjP6n2jo=; b=ywt/l3L1BuM5G7JEA7LZEeUec7JQGZonRUephsV5qOMgpQKTa3QaLceJM9Ucwk5Rlw HY+elk449J0yK7Ad/VMLuzIuDp0iVf7+0XJA6kiPf7RBr+RB0kLd7XWb6LlIRyDC6qJL 8VrN2LVUjvbiKnrCMHggSmIr8ip9lXrITYvIShpK/wDmJEzjsYp8C6sEDJeqSmxdSA5s a/3ekfBpoREhjS2v1VnG+rW982sOZePVIOjEQKJwfcUK5XwFui9tvpeYRYq4w3FNnGYl 46NChgBnRPL5NKaD6K+jfo8o7hZA4do1p44BHkSNpNUYGRpnifykkYY9mRcV1gaZsppp MJDQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.231.194 with SMTP id ti2mr2001983oec.41.1392565259675; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 07:40:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.23.33 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 07:40:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 10:40:59 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Services running OpenVPN on a Jail From: Stephen R Guglielmo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:41:01 -0000 Hi guys, I use OpenVPN to get an IP address that my mail/web/etc daemons listen on. Right now, everything runs without a jail. I want to start jailing services. OpenVPN runs on the host and provides the IP address via tap0. Would I be unable to jail, say, my httpd, because, from the jail, it would not be able to access tap0 on the host? There's multiple services that listen on that tap0 IP, and it would be pointless to jail them all together. Thanks! -srg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 16 19:27:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5209E5A4 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 19:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ve0-x231.google.com (mail-ve0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c01::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10D7C1784 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 19:27:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f177.google.com with SMTP id jz11so11200484veb.36 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 11:27:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wBQwpMuBmDwX9qJwzTuiwjXF9gfl8j2BnzPOUJYeUkc=; b=FeggDDVarHODpS9t8ZuFxkgJ/VyQS/7IYxiOjBmPGDY2+NSTVPrAY00TmTgw6nxo2f zLOZGUEnauWBnJPTc0zaVbyl78ELePlpskV2mFomd7zMgzt3ewuTRJ3JbZxcuQDqz0k7 DuBaHLBjC1nMFur7WiOyjWf0zE1RT2coFYqjrlgHhizte6mjt8ymS1cnVLwfPr3faP4G eaWkQ1DB0Yamtuydwa3ne6r148fe5hVb27WpgQfOJ3BIdXaEdF6TsbN+1zf/qavay5ab /28blv3rTkJb5UlBsBAFSmoMIV3+5PisLYPLvNCvjLVlFqzutrv4P0bnSJNKenREYpSQ 96jg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.114.135 with SMTP id e7mr318397vcq.39.1392578822234; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 11:27:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.138.18 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 11:27:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.138.18 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 11:27:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 21:27:02 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Finnish maililng list is something i could offer support if you need any From: Sami Koponen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 19:27:03 -0000 I think there is very much here in finland interested and i would do it gladly. - Sami Koponen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 16 19:31:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A3AB743 for ; 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Sun, 16 Feb 2014 19:53:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.44]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC6321121 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 14:53:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 16 Feb 2014 14:53:58 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to :references; s=smtpout; bh=4iVtvrUSzo+fIE3zgQX2GHvwhAk=; b=dmbyt SxQsY+P9pc2kvYXApgE9YsM/xnJTFMoxoXexiA0UOTBVsGtLdFX3sSXFMRerw959 5kGAzHAsID/t0M4RLJouhBsgVrMA6pS+RtnRX26PdCn3pISvCn6tOKK1+hYH08Bs vP0yscRU5h3eY6EUAwinvUPn/GZa0ppMTFKsrU= Received: by web3.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id 58C5211F309; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 14:53:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1392580438.21020.84094525.187DA3AE@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: TZ+muXZd3vr4PSAPKlAN2+1VveN99Ahi+YCSier+oPVf 1392580438 From: Mark Felder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-e72899be Subject: Re: OT: odd gmail behavior Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 13:53:58 -0600 In-Reply-To: References: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 19:54:00 -0000 On Fri, Feb 14, 2014, at 13:31, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > Since gmail does not have its own forums (as far I can tell) I am asking > this here. Maybe someone, here, knows: > > 1. Gmail determines the importance of a piece of mail by (among other > things) how frequently you read related mails (for example it considers > ports-bugs@ to be important for my case but that's only because I > currently > have a couple of ports in the process of being committed) > > 2. There seems no way (besides reading this include marking it as read) > to > mark a message as being not important > > 3. As a result of the above, in the last 2 weeks my important and unread > folder has exploded from 2 or 3 messages a day (ones that are truly > important) to over 50 thus making the feature useless > > Any ideas? > > P.S. at some point the project listed in my signature will be adding > support for preconfigured mail servers and such; once this happens the > above is moot... but til then... > Can't you disable that feature entirely? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 16 21:15:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61E00B9E for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 21:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-x22c.google.com (mail-oa0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A0411FFA for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 21:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id g12so16878869oah.3 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 13:15:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Upt8nJhWzM3z7jtRJxZX/DIkPfbuy6MQvCbqhYvqwm8=; b=vvNzJoXkxw7E4Abl5MrgUoR0duEYkjCn8rKbJCUIqphm0nlLPjFXJ2Bw/vR3f8zDqc /yKTYsZIHSUQrTeNZ7yMU7jEyehFqqC+AqrM+2PYoB2BhA1bjw6OLXRVlPRFfE2fFf6S 6XD+DPWgw6K19misT+BRx/XnlIx+/SEo45NvlShyypq5LPuddaCeaczp7d3KNjvuzM4Y i5AclLYXyVh/XVZC0jIJMQRvl/xxv4uv9V8neTrVeykVXUOb43WWkpz6IXAoueqzG3Nz GSkE8DoOV0UWxbHNYeH2dOH/O1TJ4TM8542XIvhExVUIXbU6hP6Li36dYbmPHGn9RIKn 4tAg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.227.233 with SMTP id sd9mr36926oec.52.1392585357350; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 13:15:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.75.72 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 13:15:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 16:15:57 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: security.jail.param.allow.socket_af=1 From: alexus To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 21:15:58 -0000 I'm trying to change following and for whatever reason it won't allow me to do so: root@fx:~ # sysctl security.jail.param.allow.socket_af=1 security.jail.param.allow.socket_af: 0 -> 0 root@fx:~ # any ideas? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 16 23:14:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B0BB4C4 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 23:14:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.web.de (mout.web.de [212.227.17.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F12A17E5 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 23:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from grissom.einundvierzig.org ([77.176.203.111]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb103) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0LudP2-1XEsHi2HRY-00zjYQ for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 00:14:10 +0100 Message-ID: <530146A5.30006@web.de> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 00:15:49 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Frank_Wi=DFmann?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; de-DE; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110202 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: security.jail.param.allow.socket_af=1 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:XtBMU4iw5H2Wp0WUmv96uYkaF15UvR23W27g7AdsE+S583AS4pi nKOO+i+7StdhMfygtrZqEYntIbA6HE7PgIC2NmVTiQ69C+gPwmPksDsew0pygSZjK7qkxOg X2xaa/P0ffHqv6nvr19Jh8slaj3+XS1uh2WgzuldbB1dSv9BDABObjHa7vZ6JWKtxSABmJq ZhaBBv+SYd0+do568MXBA== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 23:14:19 -0000 On 16.02.2014 22:15, alexus wrote: > I'm trying to change following and for whatever reason it won't allow me to > do so: > > root@fx:~ # sysctl security.jail.param.allow.socket_af=1 > security.jail.param.allow.socket_af: 0 -> 0 > root@fx:~ # > > any ideas? > Thanks! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi! To change sysctls you have to place it in /etc/sysctl.conf. The manpages of sysctl and sysctl.conf will give you more hints about the syntax. Then you need to reboot your system to take the changes effect. Greetings Frank -- GU d- s:+ a+ C+>$ UBS>$ P L- !E--- W N+@ !o K--? !w--- O !M- !V- PS+ PE Y? !PGP- t+ 5 X !R tv- b++ DI !D G e h+ r- y? When pack meets pack in the jungle and no one will move from the trail wait till the leaders have spoken. It may be fair words shall prevail. (Rudyard Kipling) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 16 23:37:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB25B7FF for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 23:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x22b.google.com (mail-pd0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E6461950 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 23:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f171.google.com with SMTP id g10so14107040pdj.30 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:37:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=xhqCg3xnAxIiA9Z3yX910XXDOx2/mzLKjOO6Z8e2xME=; b=vzh984a5u6Y2Bp4zgKTk6JAjVOG4y/F95Xan/Sfd76L9AixNsHTaTUPJ1BmHH7N1RB 0n1tzOwrF24HVpbKFzzAmoBSvrv3lOtQ98zXZnbmdNK7TLyuahz6QV3xIv9TYvPp6LLS ybebaLLMqn7/grbvsIOsALVBOFeKiGtAVED55q1N6ecPoEfoQzerAt15JOvOar+7q5kZ g66d4O/gTh0z2+dTIWUhoQdHdywb4sUmcICrCbQhyc0yokiUsWYM2Y2CZb80cNaN2Sql mio5usA0Kg6eZv4gBsBGC9+2bM2f3ruJPQG1EC6+22daIPIZv1QgCb2ZRn4B6GlZH8H2 V0Sg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.136.162 with SMTP id qb2mr23219880pbb.88.1392593839138; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:37:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.55.7 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:37:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <530146A5.30006@web.de> References: <530146A5.30006@web.de> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 17:37:19 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: security.jail.param.allow.socket_af=1 From: Adam Vande More To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Frank_Wi=DFmann?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 23:37:19 -0000 On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Frank Wi=DFmann w= rote: > On 16.02.2014 22:15, alexus wrote: > >> I'm trying to change following and for whatever reason it won't allow me >> to >> do so: >> >> root@fx:~ # sysctl security.jail.param.allow.socket_af=3D1 >> security.jail.param.allow.socket_af: 0 -> 0 >> root@fx:~ # >> >> any ideas? >> Thanks! >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > Hi! > To change sysctls you have to place it in /etc/sysctl.conf. This is completely incorrect. > The manpages of sysctl and sysctl.conf will give you more hints about the > syntax. Then you need to reboot your system to take the changes effect. > Or you could just issue a /etc/rc.d/sysctl restart Greetings > > Frank > > Regarding security.jail.param.allow.socket_af some sysctl's are only settable at boot time. Try putting security.jail.param.allow.socket_af=3D1 in /boot/loader.conf and rebooting to see what happens. --=20 Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 17 00:55:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA6D432F for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 00:55:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.web.de (mout.web.de [212.227.15.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 558AC1E5B for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 00:55:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from grissom.einundvierzig.org ([77.176.203.111]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb001) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MRD4x-1Wj7vn3SbX-00UXL3 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 01:55:25 +0100 Message-ID: <53015E5E.20905@web.de> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 01:57:02 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Frank_Wi=DFmann?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; de-DE; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110202 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More Subject: Re: security.jail.param.allow.socket_af=1 References: <530146A5.30006@web.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:745wTcoKQrLy3e2QQHjdoIHQqvr0G9tckblY26V+/hn9NYUFlFa B11/hK8hV9Vw6cPk6wzpxensBhZnrJCK6NDn00XTvdqU1n26zmDrOWWwsXfPi4+xWhePErp S/Uign2nsbIZFgnuloEi3L5uv49xMN8+mD3i+R2JXC4XH85/FblIQJxgdYkjzgo+dhoPBgj wNOSRR0OTgaiuGZMB8wNA== Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 00:55:34 -0000 On 17.02.2014 00:37, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Frank Wißmannwrote: > >> On 16.02.2014 22:15, alexus wrote: >> >>> I'm trying to change following and for whatever reason it won't allow me >>> to >>> do so: >>> >>> root@fx:~ # sysctl security.jail.param.allow.socket_af=1 >>> security.jail.param.allow.socket_af: 0 -> 0 >>> root@fx:~ # >>> >>> any ideas? >>> Thanks! >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >>> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >> Hi! >> To change sysctls you have to place it in /etc/sysctl.conf. > > > This is completely incorrect. > > >> The manpages of sysctl and sysctl.conf will give you more hints about the >> syntax. Then you need to reboot your system to take the changes effect. >> > > Or you could just issue a /etc/rc.d/sysctl restart > > Greetings >> >> Frank >> >> > Regarding security.jail.param.allow.socket_af some sysctl's are only > settable at boot time. Try putting security.jail.param.allow.socket_af=1 > in /boot/loader.conf and rebooting to see what happens. > Aha! So I see I'm totally outdated. Learning never takes a stop. Thanks for correcting me and excuse the noise. Greetings Frank -- GU d- s:+ a+ C+>$ UBS>$ P L- !E--- W N+@ !o K--? !w--- O !M- !V- PS+ PE Y? !PGP- t+ 5 X !R tv- b++ DI !D G e h+ r- y? When pack meets pack in the jungle and no one will move from the trail wait till the leaders have spoken. It may be fair words shall prevail. (Rudyard Kipling) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 17 02:43:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E7B95DA for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 02:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-x233.google.com (mail-vc0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDDC5171D for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 02:43:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f179.google.com with SMTP id lh14so10952250vcb.24 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 18:43:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=0a2y3YxbadXi1c4Ofp2k8LyR/k+AeXRAV/fA1sEyYtI=; b=b4Uq3BAW06+9P5CdaqY8IwUsUXGZ90FqV0NwQt30WYuKe8IWc+4Z7YojwhATsrZD5n 8/5OgxdY/EKu6Lbhor5F+60uIUFE62IbvINJFDoyLHIM+C309443sKRkIfM7hIkXxTeR 09Lw61MEGBZC5aicRT561SnpN+65gVIsFacJ8Rpb0XhJpR1b45q4ttL3V8hBJiZ1uqST gh0sMSb2btDI+IGjE2wxxeFaqcI55/2Nihj3tGxnKX1kkG9ZreEM24hKZ2ZTlBVcNyW1 wOa79UINB4KwJwMMR7t732DLqCAWE5qryvieRd0MYVhMae2DQ6Pdrx63s8+0tI521EYy RBVA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.189.33 with SMTP id gf1mr9466867vdc.26.1392605010989; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 18:43:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.59.13.226 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 18:43:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20140214171610.GA58795@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20140214171610.GA58795@slackbox.erewhon.net> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 02:43:30 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Can't Mount USB Drive As User Under FreeBSD 10 From: B J To: Roland Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 02:43:32 -0000 On 2/14/14, Roland Smith wrote: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 04:39:46AM +0000, B J wrote: >> I searched the mailing list archives for an answer to my problem but >> didn't find anything. >> >> I recently installed FreeBSD 10 on a T42 Thinkpad. The configuration >> uses Gnome as the desktop. >> >> I've had problems configuring the machine to mount external USB >> drives. I can mount USB thumb drives when logged in as root using: >> >> mount -t msdosfs -o -m=644,-M=755 /dev/da0s1 /mnt/root >> >> after creating the directory /mnt/root. > > To be able to mount as a user several settings have to be made. > > First, in /etc/sysctl.conf: > > vfs.usermount=1 > > Next the permissions for the devices have to be set. Since USB devices can > be > plugged in at random, this has to be set in /etc/devfs.rules, not > etc/devfs.conf! You can make a choice here; > > 1) give _everybody_ read/write access by using mode 666 > 2) restrict r/w access to a group, e.g. a group 'usb'. This is the path > > I've chosen. > > So, in /etc/devfs.rules I've put the following; > > [my_usb=10] > add path 'da*' mode 0660 group usb > add path 'msdosfs/*' mode 0660 group usb > add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 group usb > add path 'ugen*' mode 0660 group usb > > Additionally, in /etc/rc.conf we have to activate this ruleset: > > devfs_system_ruleset="my_usb" > > What I like to do is have USB drives mount automatically. To this end I'm > using sysutils/automount. This uses devd notifications. Configuration is > done > with two files; > > /usr/local/etc/devd/automount_devd.conf: > > notify 20 { > match "system" "DEVFS"; > match "type" "CREATE"; > match "cdev" "da[0-9]s1$"; > action "/usr/local/sbin/automount $cdev attach"; > }; > > notify 20 { > match "system" "DEVFS"; > match "type" "DESTROY"; > match "cdev" "da[0-9]s1$"; > action "/usr/local/sbin/automount $cdev detach"; > }; > > N.B.: /usr/local/etc/devd must be named as a directory option in > devd.conf(5). > But this is the default. > > Next we have /usr/local/etc/automount.conf: > > MNTPREFIX="/media" > USERUMOUNT="YES" > USER="your_name_here" > ATIME="NO" > REMOVEDIRS="YES" > > The directory '/media' has to be created. Under this directory, > subdirectories > named after the device will be created owned by $USER. So if a /dev/da0s1 > is > detected by devd, it will be mounted at '/media/da0s1' owned by $USER. If > the > USB cable is unplugged the filesystem will be unmounted. Note that it is > better to unmount filesystems by hand before unplugging them! I got something to work. As we used to say while I worked in industry, if it works, don't fix it. Here's what I did: - installed automount - added the commands listed above (spelling things correctly helps! ;-)) - put "mount -t msdosfs -o -m=644,-M=755 /dev/da0s1 /media" in a file (I called it mountusb) - put "umount /media" in another file (I called it unmountusb), and - make a link to /media and put it on the desktop. I created identical files in my user account. Putting those commands into files saves me the headache of typing them each time. While operating as root, I: - mounted the USB drive by typing "source mountusb" - clicked on the link, the contents of the USB drive appeared, and - umounted the USB drive by typing "source unmountusb" While operating in my personal account, I: - changed to the C shell, and - used "source mountusb" and "source unmountusb" as before. I copied files from the USB onto my desktop without any problems. Anyway, it works and it's good enough for my purposes. Thanks for the information. B.M. Jatzeck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 17 04:33:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E26FB8D2 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 04:33:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from spoon.beta.com (spoon.beta.com [199.165.180.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAB07127A for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 04:33:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [199.165.180.42] (dhcp12.beta.com [199.165.180.42]) by spoon.beta.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s1H4k72j043814 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 23:46:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mcgovern@beta.com) Subject: ffmpeg question From: "Brian J. McGovern" To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-P6Ohsx7kVKhdBKEwYSjH" Organization: B.E.T.A. Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 23:20:06 -0500 Message-ID: <1392610806.1407.4.camel@fbsd-laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on spoon.beta.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: bmcgover@cisco.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 04:33:49 -0000 --=-P6Ohsx7kVKhdBKEwYSjH Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've got webcamd working with pwcview -y. Now, I'm trying to get ffmpeg/ffserver working. It appears from the config log that v4l2 is being enabled, but it doesn't appear in the format or codec lists. Using -f video4linux2 or -f v4l2 gives the error of 'Unknown input format'. The options in the config.log file are below. The codecs and format lists are attached. Any thoughts on a next step to get this working? # ./configure --disable-libaacplus --disable-indev=alsa --disable-outdev=alsa --disable-libopencore-amrnb --disable-libopencore-amrwb --disable-libass --disable-libcdio --disable-libcelt --disable-libfaac --disable-libfdk-aac --enable-ffserver --enable-fontconfig --enable-libfreetype --enable-frei0r --enable-gnutls --disable-libgsm --enable-iconv --disable-indev=jack --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libbluray --enable-libv4l2 --disable-libmodplug --disable-openal --disable-indev=openal --enable-libopencv --enable-libopenjpeg --disable-libopus --enable-libpulse --disable-librtmp --enable-libschroedinger --disable-libspeex --enable-libtheora --disable-vaapi --disable-vdpau --enable-libvorbis --disable-libvo-aacenc --disable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-libvpx --enable-libx264 --enable-libxvid --enable-x11grab --prefix=/usr/local --mandir=/usr/local/man --datadir=/usr/local/share/ffmpeg --enable-shared --enable-gpl --enable-postproc --enable-avfilter --enable-avresample --enable-pthreads --enable-memalign-hack --disable-libstagefright-h264 --disable-libutvideo --disable-libsoxr --enable-libv4l2 --cc=cc --extra-cflags='-msse -I/usr/local/include/vorbis -I/usr/local/include' --extra-ldflags='-L/usr/local/lib ' --extra-libs=-pthread --disable-debug --disable-ffplay --disable-outdev=sdl --=-P6Ohsx7kVKhdBKEwYSjH Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ffmpeg_codecs" Content-Type: text/plain; name="ffmpeg_codecs"; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ffmpeg version 2.1.1 Copyright (c) 2000-2013 the FFmpeg developers built on Feb 16 2014 21:51:09 with FreeBSD clang version 3.3 (tags/RELEAS= E_33/final 183502) 20130610 configuration: --disable-libaacplus --disable-indev=3Dalsa --disable-outd= ev=3Dalsa --disable-libopencore-amrnb --disable-libopencore-amrwb --disable= -libass --disable-libcdio --disable-libcelt --disable-libfaac --disable-lib= fdk-aac --enable-ffserver --enable-fontconfig --enable-libfreetype --enable= -frei0r --enable-gnutls --disable-libgsm --enable-iconv --disable-indev=3Dj= ack --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libbluray --enable-libv4l2 --disable-libmo= dplug --disable-openal --disable-indev=3Dopenal --enable-libopencv --enable= -libopenjpeg --disable-libopus --enable-libpulse --disable-librtmp --enable= -libschroedinger --disable-libspeex --enable-libtheora --disable-vaapi --di= sable-vdpau --enable-libvorbis --disable-libvo-aacenc --disable-libvo-amrwb= enc --enable-libvpx --enable-libx264 --enable-libxvid --enable-x11grab --pr= efix=3D/usr/local --mandir=3D/usr/local/man --datadir=3D/usr/local/share/ff= mpeg --enable-shared --enable-gpl --enable-postproc --enable-avfilter --ena= ble-avresample --enable-pthreads --enable-memalign-hack --disable-libstagef= right-h264 --disable-libutvideo --disable-libsoxr --enable-libv4l2 --cc=3Dc= c --extra-cflags=3D'-msse -I/usr/local/include/vorbis -I/usr/local/include'= --extra-ldflags=3D'-L/usr/local/lib ' 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BINary text (XBIN) D xmv Microsoft XMV E xv XV (XVideo) output device D xwma Microsoft xWMA D yop Psygnosis YOP DE yuv4mpegpipe YUV4MPEG pipe --=-P6Ohsx7kVKhdBKEwYSjH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 17 04:41:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4D57A5A for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 04:41:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878481330 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 04:41:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3fSC8C3DtYz4q; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 23:36:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 23:36:43 -0500 From: Daniel Staal To: Robert Simmons , User questions Subject: Re: Dropbox on FreeBSD Message-ID: <535E7B497FB3E9EC90C01F28@[192.168.1.50]> In-Reply-To: References: <20140215070812.0f1c582f@scorpio> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 04:41:57 -0000 --As of February 15, 2014 3:02:13 PM -0500, Robert Simmons is alleged to have said: > On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Jerry wrote: >> I use Dropbox and Windows SkyDrive, soon to be renamed OneDrive, >> extensively. Unfortunately, there does not appear to be a version >> available for FreeBSD. These are listed on the site: >> >> Ubuntu (.deb) 64-bit 32-bit >> Fedora (.rpm) 64-bit 32-bit >> Debian (.deb) 64-bit 32-bit >> Compile from source >> >> there are a few "Dropbox" ports; however, I am looking for something that >> works the same way across different platforms; ie Windows and FreeBSD. Do >> the Dropbox ports do that? If not, has anyone tried to use one of the >> "Dropbox" distributions on FreeBSD? > > Another option would be to add Sparkleshare to the ports collection: > > http://www.sparkleshare.net/ > > https://github.com/hbons/SparkleShare --As for the rest, it is mine. Owncloud - already in the ports collection - would be an option too. It has more features than just folder sync, but you can ignore them if you want. ;) (For that matter, you could run rsync to get the same effect... On ZFS with snapshots if you want to be able to roll back.) But either of these would require running a server someplace. I'm not sure what commercial solutions there are that have a FreeBSD client. (Hmm. A private project on Github?) Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 17 06:28:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4982B50 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 06:28:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ee0-x22b.google.com (mail-ee0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c00::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CDE319D0 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 06:28:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f43.google.com with SMTP id c41so6815797eek.16 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 22:28:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=iWnGSOMBdRZE13QlhT7KEGz6ihq4Kp+Bq4w5QeyFen0=; b=z/myTb2cSzs/K64mGXrfOh7mRkLDhH64qAdI8vfBbpCNP8PGpvJ3tDRT+lT0s2T1ur 98DYGISCLU+zeRLB3XQyUnJZHAAl/2iRnFcBzGkJh2qjFO7L7+a5KvCZUUqxlfX/KJkM QHjR78jni5Lrt2e+FpVLGIFKj0JFPF3LWIlu+0SnQa9WCZxQNDe3FOKBQL3jKsVYefT2 WbbN16yu1AM6kifiRpoebGkkrZY146EKMKHbPHep0rqR1ZGnieTdfVVcgClyBXHbzP2X Dn9uVLLKVb+kCTcGeJH9Us1EgO2pLPsW+neRGh/H3pF5g9iTyg/zRgUpA6PiJNUhtFf1 gOXw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.15.26.8 with SMTP id m8mr25892686eeu.25.1392618534820; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 22:28:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.15.102.76 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 22:28:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <535E7B497FB3E9EC90C01F28@192.168.1.50> References: <20140215070812.0f1c582f@scorpio> <535E7B497FB3E9EC90C01F28@192.168.1.50> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 01:28:54 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Dropbox on FreeBSD From: Robert Simmons To: Daniel Staal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: User questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 06:28:57 -0000 Yes, you would need to host it somewhere that has git installed and ssh. That's not too tall of an order. There is one commercial service that does support a FreeBSD native client: http://www.tarsnap.com/ On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Daniel Staal wrote: > --As of February 15, 2014 3:02:13 PM -0500, Robert Simmons is alleged to > have said: > >> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Jerry wrote: >>> >>> I use Dropbox and Windows SkyDrive, soon to be renamed OneDrive, >>> extensively. Unfortunately, there does not appear to be a version >>> available for FreeBSD. These are listed on the site: >>> >>> Ubuntu (.deb) 64-bit 32-bit >>> Fedora (.rpm) 64-bit 32-bit >>> Debian (.deb) 64-bit 32-bit >>> Compile from source >>> >>> there are a few "Dropbox" ports; however, I am looking for something that >>> works the same way across different platforms; ie Windows and FreeBSD. Do >>> the Dropbox ports do that? If not, has anyone tried to use one of the >>> "Dropbox" distributions on FreeBSD? >> >> >> Another option would be to add Sparkleshare to the ports collection: >> >> http://www.sparkleshare.net/ >> >> https://github.com/hbons/SparkleShare > > > --As for the rest, it is mine. > > Owncloud - already in the ports collection - would be an option too. It has > more features than just folder sync, but you can ignore them if you want. > ;) (For that matter, you could run rsync to get the same effect... On ZFS > with snapshots if you want to be able to roll back.) > > But either of these would require running a server someplace. I'm not sure > what commercial solutions there are that have a FreeBSD client. (Hmm. A > private project on Github?) > > Daniel T. Staal > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you > are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use > the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will > expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, > whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of > local copyright law. > --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 17 07:01:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0062351C for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 07:01:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from w21.org (ribe.w21.org [IPv6:2a01:238:4382:a300:3fe5:41ce:8574:8378]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B04841C75 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 07:01:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wrixum4.ni.w21.org (p4FC0B4C8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.192.180.200]) by w21.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D9D131D04017; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:01:15 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_FD2F09BE-7A13-4B4D-A57A-821A95F30A72"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) Subject: Re: MySQL logs From: Juergen Nickelsen In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:01:15 +0100 Message-Id: <595F60BF-5F24-4E90-893F-B2B9AE1EA624@w21.org> References: To: freebsd@fongaboo.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 07:01:18 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_FD2F09BE-7A13-4B4D-A57A-821A95F30A72 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 2014-02-14, at 21:56, freebsd@fongaboo.com wrote: > How does one set up per-query logs on MySQL in FreeBSD? Google results = are very vague and seem to vary per OS. Average Google results will not be as relevant as the MySQL = documentation itself, which is quite okay. But admittedly, it is a bit = hidden on the MySQL web site, so I get always faster to it by searching. = Using the search terms mysql 5.1 query log should lead you straight to the relevant page; for me this works not = only with my probably strongly MySQL-primed Google search bubble, but = also with, for instance, DuckDuckGo. In my experience, including the relevant version number is helpful to = reach the official MySQL documentation instead of all those blog pages = of dubious know-it-alls. Anyway, the relevant page is http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/query-log.html For other versions, replace 5.1 in that URL with the actual version you = have in use. Be sure to check the page exactly for the version you are = using; there have been a number of changes even in version increments in = the third number. (MySQL is prone to such changes. One of these in a recent 5.1 update = with Debian stable recently broke one customer's configuration, when a = deprecated configuration keyword was finally invalidated -- in a minor = minor version update, I'd like to stress. Furrfu.) Well, indeed it is worth checking the documentation carefully in *any* = case, and Read The Whole Page. Regards, Juergen. --Apple-Mail=_FD2F09BE-7A13-4B4D-A57A-821A95F30A72 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTAbO7AAoJEEb28HuG6YEfM+QIAI6rNjrSgFPUPvgi6HVSv+Qf d85O46rrUc/KKfXhPVVL2p5UFLwohPjSclayji6HkIApWcTm0+V3gk5nL8jNV1TE FPrgUs6RMlGnjb2O+flpU42QQm7TfGYWzPBH85AOTLiPAkPH6AL/VLKhwaaWY4U4 9ztLIWykuiowZvxtUboUSXDfBmjKkwsOHnnaXCOUANAvMoeoTKgcF8bLc/9PKF7x YTmnqMq6qam3o4ZAb/mPswJVvfMM55MTyy7jxpVO9hwDe8kNeM8FMR3yAWRY4TKM DIgPLLmV6vfuAbPpVgz3I6DDeI+2q9idwIcYbnuIiGgazitEAEDLUhj/FsOPIqY= =WFfL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_FD2F09BE-7A13-4B4D-A57A-821A95F30A72-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 17 08:02:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 480107D3 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:02:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [37.59.62.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C210117F for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (149.169.100.84.rev.sfr.net [84.100.169.149]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D52B82908 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 09:02:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D368B059A for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 09:02:14 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 09:02:13 +0100 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox soundcloud does not work anymore ? Message-ID: <20140217090213.2d9afb44@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> In-Reply-To: <20140210201935.4f6769bb@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> References: <20140210201935.4f6769bb@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; i386-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (smtp.lamaiziere.net [0.0.0.0]); Mon, 17 Feb 2014 09:02:14 +0100 (CET) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:02:23 -0000 Le Mon, 10 Feb 2014 20:19:35 +0100, Patrick Lamaiziere a =E9crit : Hi, > 10-stable i386 / firefox-esr 24.3.1 >=20 > I can't play any audio file on https://soundcloud.com >=20 > for example the play button does not do anything : > https://soundcloud.com/patrick-patralattaque/police-truck >=20 > I've got another box running 9-stable/amd64 but with an older > (not very old) version of firefox-esr and it works fine.=20 >=20 > I don't remember if this worked since I've installed 10.0 on this > box, I think not. I've made some progress, this is a HTML5 problem within Firefox. Gstreamer is used by firefox to play the content, looks like there was a missing gstreamer plugin. I've installed all the plugins and now the player plays (before it didn't play at all) but I don't have any sound. I've have disabled gstreamer in the firefox build and that works (firefox reverts to flash) Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 17 11:22:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88681A8D for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 11:22:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www94.your-server.de (www94.your-server.de [213.133.104.94]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4725914BF for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 11:22:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [92.230.240.70] (helo=[192.168.178.40]) by www94.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.74) (envelope-from ) id 1WFMHg-0003HX-PI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:22:48 +0100 Subject: Cannot create files on exfat card / 10-stable From: Mathias Picker To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: virtual earth GmbH Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:22:44 +0100 Message-ID: <1392636164.2305.3.camel@marcopolo.fritz.box> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: Mathias.Picker@virtual-earth.de X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.8/18484/Mon Feb 17 09:38:29 2014) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 11:22:57 -0000 Hi all, I just got my first exfat formatted sdxc card. If I mount it with (as root) mount.exfat /dev/da2s1 /mnt I can read the content, create *directories*, but *not files*??? root@marcopolo:/mnt # touch test1 touch: test1: Invalid argument root@marcopolo:/mnt # mkdir test1 root@marcopolo:/mnt # touch test1/test touch: test1/test: Invalid argument root@marcopolo:/mnt # ll -d test1 drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 131072 16 Feb 19:46 test1/ root@marcopolo:/mnt # ll test1 total 0 Shouldn't this work? I rebuilt fusefs-lib and fusefs-exfat with gcc48, same result... This is on a recent stable: marcopolo% uname -a FreeBSD marcopolo 10.0-STABLE FreeBSD 10.0-STABLE #14 r261827: Thu Feb 13 13:13:01 CET 2014 mathiasp@marcopolo:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 The card is a Sandisk Extreme MicroSDXC 64Gb. Works fine in my phone. Any tips, hints, experiences? Thanks, Mathias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 17 16:02:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D220A59D for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 16:02:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-x231.google.com (mail-qg0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90B4511F8 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 16:02:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id j107so5188042qga.8 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:02:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=RKsAoJb1ECsKf36ogSQnDf/AiBrKtWqgkWC0W7qSKjk=; b=ZpeWVbjAymWOvsD2K63sbXCsqhOw0M6vN+XTaPaTAYxbGGJoaUKKZDwWlktHog81vd YJBbYuWDYmgt7z4z+9eWtkAXl4B3hghtQVGNPW01Ui1fmNsZdjdosZLTYp4XdD+3BBqX yUjv/Ya+g8f1+ErsBZN2MLL3BFBb8iEuGiQI6C0CGa7238AlfPk5gGv4+cLNabpu88Nk 3DwzG2Iq3P4q24U+IUYKQ4mNKI8P7UON+YorrzFz3Q2WEoVup2Ej7Os/yOFbhkwo6X01 0b77tHmmjyCHJUQHVfaZYBMIcMBkqklRY810vzTNbBxc7rDtCL9+R3TxNbcAFoFMAIRr mZFQ== X-Received: by 10.140.88.112 with SMTP id s103mr34163857qgd.47.1392652948316; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:02:28 -0800 (PST) References: <20140215070812.0f1c582f@scorpio> <535E7B497FB3E9EC90C01F28@192.168.1.50> From: Matthew Pherigo In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 10:02:26 -0600 Message-ID: <-2463274290818790909@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Dropbox on FreeBSD To: Robert Simmons , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 16:02:30 -0000 Although tarsnap is great, I don't believe it's a file syncing solution - only a backup solution. --Matt > On Feb 17, 2014, at 12:29 AM, Robert Simmons wrote: > > Yes, you would need to host it somewhere that has git installed and > ssh. That's not too tall of an order. > > There is one commercial service that does support a FreeBSD native client: > http://www.tarsnap.com/ > >> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Daniel Staal wrote: >> --As of February 15, 2014 3:02:13 PM -0500, Robert Simmons is alleged to >> have said: >> >>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Jerry wrote: >>>> >>>> I use Dropbox and Windows SkyDrive, soon to be renamed OneDrive, >>>> extensively. Unfortunately, there does not appear to be a version >>>> available for FreeBSD. These are listed on the site: >>>> >>>> Ubuntu (.deb) 64-bit 32-bit >>>> Fedora (.rpm) 64-bit 32-bit >>>> Debian (.deb) 64-bit 32-bit >>>> Compile from source >>>> >>>> there are a few "Dropbox" ports; however, I am looking for something that >>>> works the same way across different platforms; ie Windows and FreeBSD. Do >>>> the Dropbox ports do that? If not, has anyone tried to use one of the >>>> "Dropbox" distributions on FreeBSD? >>> >>> >>> Another option would be to add Sparkleshare to the ports collection: >>> >>> http://www.sparkleshare.net/ >>> >>> https://github.com/hbons/SparkleShare >> >> >> --As for the rest, it is mine. >> >> Owncloud - already in the ports collection - would be an option too. It has >> more features than just folder sync, but you can ignore them if you want. >> ;) (For that matter, you could run rsync to get the same effect... On ZFS >> with snapshots if you want to be able to roll back.) >> >> But either of these would require running a server someplace. I'm not sure >> what commercial solutions there are that have a FreeBSD client. (Hmm. A >> private project on Github?) >> >> Daniel T. Staal >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> This email copyright the author. 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This copyright will >> expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, >> whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of >> local copyright law. >> --------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 17 17:31:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1F27364 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9438C1AD4 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:31:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3fSXLf710Rz8m; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:31:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:31:54 -0500 From: Daniel Staal To: Robert Simmons , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dropbox on FreeBSD Message-ID: <576E19BBB43046C20D0A7569@[192.168.1.50]> In-Reply-To: <-2463274290818790909@unknownmsgid> References: <20140215070812.0f1c582f@scorpio> <535E7B497FB3E9EC90C01F28@192.168.1.50> <-2463274290818790909@unknownmsgid> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:31:56 -0000 --As of February 17, 2014 10:02:26 AM -0600, Matthew Pherigo is alleged to have said: > Although tarsnap is great, I don't believe it's a file syncing > solution - only a backup solution. > > --Matt Yeah - I'm a long-time fan of tarsnap as well, but it would be a very bad choice for this application. Tarsnap keeps a local cache of metadata to keep track of what it's backed up and what is in what blocks - and getting that cache out of sync with the server causes some weird issues from what I understand. It's fixable, but it would be a lot of overhead if you were trying to use it to sync two machines. Daniel T. Staal >> On Feb 17, 2014, at 12:29 AM, Robert Simmons wrote: >> >> Yes, you would need to host it somewhere that has git installed and >> ssh. That's not too tall of an order. >> >> There is one commercial service that does support a FreeBSD native >> client: http://www.tarsnap.com/ >> >>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Daniel Staal wrote: >>> --As of February 15, 2014 3:02:13 PM -0500, Robert Simmons is alleged to >>> have said: >>> >>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Jerry wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I use Dropbox and Windows SkyDrive, soon to be renamed OneDrive, >>>>> extensively. Unfortunately, there does not appear to be a version >>>>> available for FreeBSD. These are listed on the site: >>>>> >>>>> Ubuntu (.deb) 64-bit 32-bit >>>>> Fedora (.rpm) 64-bit 32-bit >>>>> Debian (.deb) 64-bit 32-bit >>>>> Compile from source >>>>> >>>>> there are a few "Dropbox" ports; however, I am looking for something >>>>> that works the same way across different platforms; ie Windows and >>>>> FreeBSD. Do the Dropbox ports do that? If not, has anyone tried to >>>>> use one of the "Dropbox" distributions on FreeBSD? >>>> >>>> >>>> Another option would be to add Sparkleshare to the ports collection: >>>> >>>> http://www.sparkleshare.net/ >>>> >>>> https://github.com/hbons/SparkleShare >>> >>> >>> --As for the rest, it is mine. >>> >>> Owncloud - already in the ports collection - would be an option too. >>> It has more features than just folder sync, but you can ignore them if >>> you want. ;) (For that matter, you could run rsync to get the same >>> effect... On ZFS with snapshots if you want to be able to roll back.) >>> >>> But either of these would require running a server someplace. I'm not >>> sure what commercial solutions there are that have a FreeBSD client. >>> (Hmm. A private project on Github?) >>> >>> Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 17 18:31:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A1194C6 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x229.google.com (mail-ob0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6693C128D for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f169.google.com with SMTP id wo20so17548184obc.0 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 10:31:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0V3db0jDuK26vAnGCqTSbfk04i92sx9NxLjCnwLqd0Y=; b=lx+k/Nlpnv2zh5hfdYqFMzZG5RgxwZSGv/UstRHgk7SnlvZ826rj4bWRloEaPTGVpQ 4scdocBrpro5h6qy1VSjz8Y9aLm0NsGAqaUgqXCfKjjUcD2KreRzSdPqlmoHxH1ANgJC Qpb3xBEQkeT39zFukPNzeBVqf/a5i67tE+fHLLJGwTFKR0HOAvBqvyT6uZlLUGT0cwWP Scr4ie8gzzBXyFqGrOWD4uPRU+/osHZja1Dimtg1mMvMFnW0MEXfQ6Kp25CCRxEG3sBV wsza7T/clkphIHm/1RZ0Gyo9vXat+xGUqZzJbiBPdnA6vUkAInNKH/ONnvBmdCzdeWIR xjFQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.47.195 with SMTP id f3mr3352244obn.49.1392661867698; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 10:31:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.100.197 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 10:31:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:31:07 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: portmaster not updating ports with new pkg From: Antonio Olivares To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:31:08 -0000 Dear folks, I have migrated(trying to migrate) to pkg and remove the pkg_delete pkg_install, pkg_* stuff that is going to be EOL'd 8-31-2014 I keep getting install problems: ===> Installing for aalib-1.4.r5_9 ===> Checking if graphics/aalib already installed ===> An older version of graphics/aalib is already installed (aalib-1.4.r5_8) You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of graphics/aalib without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" in your environment or the "make install" command line. *** [check-already-installed] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/aalib. *** [install] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/aalib. I have tried to follow the advice to fix stuff with pkg * but want to continue using portmaster, but I keep getting these problems. Is there an idiot* proof way of still using portmaster to update ports but use the new pkg * system? using 9.2-RELEASE-p3 if it matters. Thanks, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 17 18:50:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A820E9F9 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:50:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60CA413D6 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WFTGO-0006ig-QD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 19:49:56 +0100 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 19:49:56 +0100 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 19:49:56 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: Trouble installing from thumb drive Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:49:30 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <20140215220431.1b540c1b@X220.alogt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net User-Agent: XPN/1.2.6 (Street Spirit ; Linux) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:50:06 -0000 Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 13:50:39 +0000 (UTC) > Walter Hurry wrote: > >> I'm trying to install FreeBSD-10.0-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img (dd'd >> to a memory stick). I can boot from the memory stick but it gets >> stuck at mountroot, with error 19. >> >> I have verified the checksum of the downloaded image, and it's fine. >> >> What other information can I provide so as to enable some kind soul >> to identify the problem? >> > can you try with a different thumb drive? > > FreeBSD has some problems with different models. > Thank you, Erich (reply delayed while I acquired another thumb drive). Yes, it worked perfectly on the second drive. I'll keep that in mind in future. Thanks again. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 17 19:47:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 117CDA66 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 19:47:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46F0C1957 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 19:47:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s1HJkxAQ040353 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:47:00 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s1HJkxrL040350; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:46:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:46:59 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Antonio Olivares Subject: Re: portmaster not updating ports with new pkg In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:47:00 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 19:47:08 -0000 On Mon, 17 Feb 2014, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Dear folks, > > I have migrated(trying to migrate) to pkg and remove the pkg_delete > pkg_install, pkg_* stuff that is going to be EOL'd 8-31-2014 > > I keep getting install problems: > > ===> Installing for aalib-1.4.r5_9 > ===> Checking if graphics/aalib already installed > ===> An older version of graphics/aalib is already installed (aalib-1.4.r5_8) > You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again > by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. > If you really wish to overwrite the old port of graphics/aalib > without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" > in your environment or the "make install" command line. > *** [check-already-installed] Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/aalib. > *** [install] Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/aalib. > > > I have tried to follow the advice to fix stuff with pkg * but want to > continue using portmaster, but I keep getting these problems. Is > there an idiot* proof way of still using portmaster to update ports > but use the new pkg * system? > > using 9.2-RELEASE-p3 if it matters. portmaster works for me the same as it always did. Did you add WITH_PKGNG=yes to make.conf? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 17 20:17:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00FEF5D0 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x22c.google.com (mail-ob0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B74561BC3 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id vb8so17543354obc.17 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:17:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=3iEtSVpGbZO/LJaY81JRbvjS/PjFhQhJYdlb0Kid/6Y=; b=dXZATsnHks/rgbxbl17W6Zw3NIeGB9c8/onO8rzZXlMARKpd+rCR1e2BiKH8CWIpej Ixzv+YujROWTefSjVoAgxAhKF7mxo+Y9y73xuvAI2ycxp9adxoz8ekQs0Nx1wmpszHsz VJRzl+TUsdPPUBXkKylb4EBjjx9k84W5CLAFU67LeiEOPcd/JyTKhmHTSys6BRgqfpS3 PFrEKw1FyZ4ycZxbOuhmSzB63ziPCz6ADKgN0hyD9UTyN4nCAVQ/MqEAa9TumStFjc68 gHXN3T8iO8sQrGU1reFeLcYrThukot1X56OgI61tF5CyHbMPwSc3jLmHAyHL2JiCzrho QSXw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.153.226 with SMTP id vj2mr23012009obb.26.1392668233062; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:17:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.100.197 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:17:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:17:13 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portmaster not updating ports with new pkg From: Antonio Olivares To: Mario Lobo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:17:14 -0000 On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: > Hi Antonio. > > This used to happen even before the pkg change, with some leaf ports once in > a while. > > The workaround I found was to go to the port directory, run make deinstall, > then run portmaster from where it stopped. This is what I am doing and it is becoming a pain :( Thanks, Antonio > > Mario Lobo > > > 2014-02-17 15:31 GMT-03:00 Antonio Olivares : >> >> Dear folks, >> >> I have migrated(trying to migrate) to pkg and remove the pkg_delete >> pkg_install, pkg_* stuff that is going to be EOL'd 8-31-2014 >> >> I keep getting install problems: >> >> ===> Installing for aalib-1.4.r5_9 >> ===> Checking if graphics/aalib already installed >> ===> An older version of graphics/aalib is already installed >> (aalib-1.4.r5_8) >> You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again >> by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. >> If you really wish to overwrite the old port of graphics/aalib >> without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" >> in your environment or the "make install" command line. >> *** [check-already-installed] Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/aalib. >> *** [install] Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/aalib. >> >> >> I have tried to follow the advice to fix stuff with pkg * but want to >> continue using portmaster, but I keep getting these problems. Is >> there an idiot* proof way of still using portmaster to update ports >> but use the new pkg * system? >> >> using 9.2-RELEASE-p3 if it matters. >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Antonio >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > -- > Mario Lobo > http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br > FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winfoes FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 17 20:19:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9902767F for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:19:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-x22f.google.com (mail-oa0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60BFE1BDF for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:19:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id m1so18093062oag.6 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:18:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=J13xKunFuFzFWAy4uG3zenytaBZE5IiTcBegp9O6EhU=; b=fLP1aS9r3rIV39L7p58/ReM7fV/ZArShaUOOIJwC2tAOCmCcJ4IQ3ZMp/ZRJHTz/ej xi/LSOGGGNo6uQtPizvbyIE+WD6ti0RhmRaSq54i+Bod/GTf5teyIK/gIB6GviYztMrJ uBP32pTyU+MHqWottq3rXUmzIvfHjYP47rW6rhhnghQSyLDhGMmG94uRPkBgqWPdPC0A K5mY2en2t/t9OAremn8ELrYqCyZgj7DkUUAoJkfmnHEZmjN+SE9u28z2Iz0j3owV/oHX wvgBS7XHbUJSysAmHR+RVCb/Fn0pZbtOlVCY7yXSa0MmVdxnfCmzlHwLDInGsW7Nn19A EeGw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.44.8 with SMTP id a8mr22782818oem.19.1392668339644; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:18:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.100.197 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:18:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:18:59 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portmaster not updating ports with new pkg From: Antonio Olivares To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:19:00 -0000 > portmaster works for me the same as it always did. Did you add > WITH_PKGNG=yes to make.conf? Isn't this done automagically? How do I do this? with ee as root? Best Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 17 20:25:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BB19C1E for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA9BB1C96 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:25:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s1HKPFOJ040840 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:25:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s1HKPFFw040837; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:25:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:25:15 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Antonio Olivares Subject: Re: portmaster not updating ports with new pkg In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:25:15 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:25:17 -0000 On Mon, 17 Feb 2014, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> portmaster works for me the same as it always did. Did you add >> WITH_PKGNG=yes to make.conf? > > Isn't this done automagically? No. > How do I do this? with ee as root? That will work, yes. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 17 21:11:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6721269 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-x234.google.com (mail-oa0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C4BF11D4 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id i4so18449953oah.11 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:11:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=uNY5lCy9bGW3QggXZBJTWu7T5AFHh2J6M7KmwAtIlZU=; b=JuFE2MKS/rEUEBrtEfiV27/2CT0v8vlaFqFPsDwNUXtvvUwo+c0ICyArO7e+68xdHA np9UaylPaaSOGzWYeO/1UEmdNqpbTMh3g6u5ufDxLCplZ0Z7gvSIO9CcGWUvhs+wXIW9 pg1rq9ksEOrg1mUPVOVLq6lBHz+xUDOzH5GjhREHJoy0xi+3zvsPB1lJTip7VfP81JvS J2oeH1m6q6Kxp9zDqo9h/KfoP0EQEJDjZZ8msYqP4VBccFi89S24gzN8w7vDUkNaiq/s 4ue2Cdx3M6BaaQkilmNOsiFNBfPRj1u6aYVRoDYlqDTKbo0lmD7B/pBIHiTsP4ge7MhZ vc9A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.92.202 with SMTP id co10mr10349oeb.73.1392671482881; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:11:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.100.197 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:11:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:11:22 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portmaster not updating ports with new pkg From: Antonio Olivares To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:11:23 -0000 On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 17 Feb 2014, Antonio Olivares wrote: > >>> portmaster works for me the same as it always did. Did you add >>> WITH_PKGNG=yes to make.conf? >> >> >> Isn't this done automagically? > > > No. > > >> How do I do this? with ee as root? > > > That will work, yes. Now it appears to be churning :) Thank you both Mario & Warren for your help. I get the warning that PACKAGESITE in pkg.conf is deprecated. Please create a repository configuration file But a site http://networkedblogs.com/RurUw states add the followng: cp /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf.sample /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf I shall try this advice and see if the warning goes away. On 8.4-RELEASE is it advised to move to pkgng? It will be EOL'd when? I have moved to pkgng on 9.2 machines, but for 8.4 it may not be plausible? Thanks for all your help. Best Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 17 21:46:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BC319F5 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:46:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CEC0214AB for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:46:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s1HLk1St041550 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:46:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s1HLk1n3041547; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:46:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:46:01 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Antonio Olivares Subject: Re: portmaster not updating ports with new pkg In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:46:02 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:46:04 -0000 On Mon, 17 Feb 2014, Antonio Olivares wrote: > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Warren Block wrote: >> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> >>>> portmaster works for me the same as it always did. Did you add >>>> WITH_PKGNG=yes to make.conf? >>> >>> >>> Isn't this done automagically? >> >> >> No. >> >> >>> How do I do this? with ee as root? >> >> >> That will work, yes. > > Now it appears to be churning :) Hopefully you ran pkg2ng at some point. > Thank you both Mario & Warren for your help. I get the warning that > > PACKAGESITE in pkg.conf is deprecated. Please create a repository > configuration file > > But a site > > http://networkedblogs.com/RurUw > > states add the followng: > > cp /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf.sample /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf Those instructions also involve portupgrade, which is not necessary when using portmaster. I just delete the config file, it is not needed unless you want to download binary packages anyway. > I shall try this advice and see if the warning goes away. > > On 8.4-RELEASE is it advised to move to pkgng? It will be EOL'd when? > I have moved to pkgng on 9.2 machines, but for 8.4 it may not be > plausible? There is only one ports tree. When the old package database goes away in August, pkg(8) will be the thing to use on any supported version of FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 17 22:08:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94FDEEC2 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 22:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19D441668 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 22:08:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.local (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s1HM8M1I077220 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 22:08:23 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s1HM8M1I077220 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s1HM8M1I077220; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99] claimed to be seedling.local Message-ID: <5302884B.3050009@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 22:08:11 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portmaster not updating ports with new pkg References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6wIJs9wCB966NNIpdQdfJJ00agkjgx8nE" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 22:08:29 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --6wIJs9wCB966NNIpdQdfJJ00agkjgx8nE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 17/02/2014 21:11, Antonio Olivares wrote: > cp /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf.sample /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf Tht blog is out of date. Things change fast in the exciting world of pkgng... You do not need to have a /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf file at all, although if you want to set some global options or define aliases or the like, that is the place to do it. What you do need is a /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/mumble.conf for some value of 'mumble'. Actually, you need at least one of these: you can have several if that is your desire. Each 'mumble.conf' contains the details of how to access a package repository that pkg(8) will use. FreeBSD 10.x and above come with a default setting (actually in /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf) which looks like this= : # $FreeBSD$ FreeBSD: { url: "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/latest", mirror_type: "srv", signature_type: "fingerprints", fingerprints: "/usr/share/keys/pkg", enabled: yes } You can use that as-is (put it in /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD.conf) on earlier versions to access the offical FreeBSD package repos. You will need to grab the repo public key hashes from: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/share/keys/pkg/ You'll need to create the directory structure like so: /usr/share/keys/pkg/trusted/pkg.freebsd.org.2013102301 where that pkg.freebsd.org.2013102301 file can be downloaded from SVN. If you want to build your own packages, you can create your own private pkg repo very easily[*], and you'll need to write yourself a mumble.conf file to get pkg(8) to access it. 'signature_type' and 'fingerprints' are optional; only if you want to sign your own packages. The URL can be plain http:// or ftp:// or ssh:// or even the very minimal file:// -- in which case 'mirror_type' can also be omitted, but you'll have to set up whatever servers you need to support the URL scheme of your choice. The 'pkg+http://' scheme used in the official FreeBSD.conf implies 'mirror_Type=3D"srv" and the use of SRV records in the DNS to locate one out of a number of possible alternate mirror sites. Probably overkill to set something like that up for a personal repo. Cheers, Matthew [*] This is where poudriere(8) generally gets mentioned. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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From: s m Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 05:32:37 -0000 thank you guys for your completed answers. "u" flag solve my problem:) thank you so much Sam On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:42 AM, wrote: > TL;DR: the sync command shouldn't be needed. The mount command should > be enough. > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 01:28:36PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > THis _should_ work with GELI encrypted partitions too, even > > though I haven't tested it. Note that reverting back to r/o > > could be delayed when writes are still pending; calling "sync" > > should issue all buffers to be written. In worst case, -f can > > Well, almost. > > The 'sync' command uses the sync system call, and that system call > _schedules_ > blocks for writing but does _not_ wait for them to be written. > > Traditionally, at least. Before the 'clean bit' was added to the filesystem > (about 20 years ago) the traditional way to stop a system was the command > sequence: > sync ; sync ; sync ; halt > > (Well, ok, that's how I was taught.) > > I assume the sync command still works the same way. I'm backlevel and > still running 8.2, but the sync system call man page still says this: > > BUGS > The sync() system call may return before the buffers are completely > flushed. > > Personally, I hope that the attempt to change the filesystem to read-only > would be hint enough that all buffers need to be flushed right now. I > also hope the mount command does not return until the job is done. If it > does then a bug report should probably be filed. > -- > "A method for inducing cats to exercise consists of directing a beam of > invisible light produced by a hand-held laser apparatus onto the floor ... > in the vicinity of the cat, then moving the laser ... in an irregular way > fascinating to cats,..." -- US patent 5443036, "Method of exercising a cat" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 06:51:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01FDF307 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 06:51:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x231.google.com (mail-la0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 802521362 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 06:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f49.google.com with SMTP id y1so11691049lam.22 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 22:50:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Za8forQeKP8bdBaQRLlgwt+L/N4kzW8I3SIAM1EOIms=; b=ZVhqtvt0h0vrGFf/4991XqxumFLpLcEJAy2b9QTwOvE6S38OQB+LV4sJnSortvYeYh t78v4OTQF32o0rbStHikrVKcFSR22JtNTITlXKqOb5oEAJdJXw3k7rUN6ngJcakdMWnr cZ3K96a0DFb1VfWtcsigh+6XsF6cdpeLR14Z82VlTsjLOzCLGzSqL1EHy8uMPUcWFN8E 3aCQhsxbVUyniG3DUO0rM2y6Me65acDzGwv/WHm17LW2LkPK4dMIQyxsTNyh/ao4ErPt RYPXKfb5A6AypVBcWrm1okMGUgZqy7HRnQv6vNIaZKfZvMQRUUQxa2QPz8l71g8rfAbN QQLw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.201.164 with SMTP id kb4mr19227620lbc.32.1392706257183; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 22:50:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.5.193 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 22:50:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:20:57 +0330 Message-ID: Subject: gre tunnel doesn't create From: s m To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 06:51:00 -0000 hello all i have freebsd 9.2 which is customized. now when i want to create gre tunnel and run "ifconfig gre0 create" command, this error is shown: ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE2: Invalid argument i check this command on a fresh freebsd 9.2 and it works so my changes cause this. i have many changes on my freebsd (install many services, optimize kernel and ...) and i need all of them. do you have any suggestion what change causes this error? or how can i fix it in order to be able to create a gre tunnel? thanks in advance, Sam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 07:21:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5333762B for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:21:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm49.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm49.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.120.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BD03315BE for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:21:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm49.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2014 07:21:36 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.113] by nm49.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2014 07:18:47 -0000 Received: from [98.139.215.141] by tm104.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2014 07:18:47 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.232] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2014 07:18:47 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1041.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2014 07:18:47 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 48552.6408.bm@omp1041.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 93312 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Feb 2014 07:18:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1392707926; bh=DBqzWEnC39aS0inpi/THAeF4JpsotSkP1gig+qQ+QeM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=O96g62fHoFUSn+OUJ7zodTbWS48vURffI1wx74lbssC87r8DgdUxPmyQDcRD8+27pRLYPuYXReA4fvlIuUf9zpFbl6euX5yjw9MQ8qWzRXpzPaKd6oseEHTMbwhemtWWRzWR8Ea+XpJOKm/4n9GnnNmtdffM/fmN9OwldWPcjcg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SkGlnvtOmYgv34TzobOvbncAd3yfKy6FnakL2r+oTNoFL8KRkZyoRBl0ld+d9z/oOGfhMFUSHQOn0ET+wkgxYSlhicZVKhQbDgw1uJa5HZZmX9G9bzZeMSVbu0LoAc5+LkaLn0bfO12CMumClZPBhAIy2u4QLbPwNArxrHzLRzY=; X-YMail-OSG: JvGc18AVM1kfRY3zs82giphgVVcQAPD83ZqW61mzv7NXD51 I0Yjx57BPyPl3LqeaZH67.EKX4ThvcAfMMlxy7a70LbAVzgP7iW.WHGbdkA9 cOJvSZ0aqI5Uz6j9TSPwkGQkwoQfr_Rx.46pN_N.8OarY_punkS42Q71rYMD kzc3zMosP71SnRuIrDHVGCYqL3vwkYV2bceVbRwPLVpiS.shwzUB9tci2S3T 8hMtW_DS_npkgHlezL8hGMBYO1fY40ChnVxfiWrCDs12OySKYkoLBHArOXMN lOouYSKtluwC7pjglHkW8WSK7ZiS3sooE_aVhrUTs3cZTTnv2ZD9nfeTJlG7 zgtRVREfrDK6Mj12FmfZ14lN9aPW_hoFlhJfAi8hW1kIeQGIZmFB6VvOvejR lXbOQx699T.iLUnnt9B5AOENbtrViotfkX5nwWaqSyY_Euy9xmnTmLhpgwyb wVgpywTedlkhX03LhDUXrzzbmcOtSTE_fkzYN0t_3xZv3VleEugRTcMChw3e DVgkI5mlYd3BKvwCbfYy7gVQ1xl2GUUS9NrovT_yR_Z1nKpgC2YqyUsqeruj fp1UX47e_4ra1czXj.yboH5EAJf7rufhRpw-- Received: from [69.253.134.181] by web165003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 23:18:46 PST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001, SGksCgpJIG5lZWQgdG8gcmVwbGFjZSB0aGUgQ1BVIGluIG15IG1vdGhlcmJvYXJkIGFuZCBJIGFtIHBsYW5uaW5nIHRvIGluc3RhbGwgRnJlZUJTRC4gSXQgYXBwZWFycyBpbiB0aGUgRnJlZUJTRCBIYXJkd2FyZSBOb3RlcyB0aGF0IENvcmUgRHVvIGlzIG5vdCBjb21wYXRpYmxlLiBJZiBub25lIG9mIHRob3NlIHByb2Nlc3NvcnMgYXJlIGNvbXBhdGlibGUsIHdvdWxkIGEgQ29yZSAyIEV4dHJlbWUgUXVhZCBQcm9jZXNzb3Igd29yaz8gVGhlIG1vdGhlcmJvYXJkIGlzIHVzaW5nIGFuIExHQSA3NzUgc29ja2UBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.177.636 Message-ID: <1392707926.74452.YahooMailNeo@web165003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 23:18:46 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Booth Subject: Is Any Intel Core 2 Core Duo Processors Compatible with FreeBSD? To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Steve Booth List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:21:37 -0000 Hi, I need to replace the CPU in my motherboard and I am planning to install FreeBSD. It appears in the FreeBSD Hardware Notes that Core Duo is not compatible. If none of those processors are compatible, would a Core 2 Extreme Quad Processor work? The motherboard is using an LGA 775 socket and is supposed to support both processors. Thanks, Steve Booth From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 07:32:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB5B19B2 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:32:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A7B01679 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:32:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s1I7VxmE090793 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:31:59 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s1I7VxmE090793 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1392708719; bh=g0jMgEIGjm8BloWQyE1wL5FjBbeWZSjMdRa5T/67LFY=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Tue,=2018=20Feb=202014=2007:31:58=20+0000|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20Steve=20Booth= 20,=20=0D=0A=20"freebsd-questions@freeb sd.org"=20|Subject:=20Re:=20Is=20An y=20Intel=20Core=202=20Core=20Duo=20Processors=20Compatible=20with =20FreeBSD?|References:=20<1392707926.74452.YahooMailNeo@web165003 .mail.bf1.yahoo.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<1392707926.74452.YahooMailNeo @web165003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>; b=snIqLyWIHgIJnRXtBcfGGjCw8/tOgKOPAb3Ad9eIlM/NPAcbzxH31A8N2MMo8RMNw 10qkTRjOgEmpz/3CPzUwGljGGleXLumEnf9uIAGCOB5JsB7jRGJNDePzFCfSFb67oo bxoxnkAKkbWxU8+Hqskrr+YYC4rG/IEABzfpYCKs= Message-ID: <53030C6E.8080208@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:31:58 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Booth , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Is Any Intel Core 2 Core Duo Processors Compatible with FreeBSD? References: <1392707926.74452.YahooMailNeo@web165003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1392707926.74452.YahooMailNeo@web165003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 OpenPGP: id=E7F39EBF Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Dp7ga2RS7pP05M81rO0D1hFqF3pwsRHcu" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:32:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Dp7ga2RS7pP05M81rO0D1hFqF3pwsRHcu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 18/02/2014 07:18, Steve Booth wrote: > I need to replace the CPU in my motherboard and I am planning to > install FreeBSD. It appears in the FreeBSD Hardware Notes that Core > Duo is not compatible. If none of those processors are compatible, > would a Core 2 Extreme Quad Processor work? The motherboard is using > an LGA 775 socket and is supposed to support both processors. Ssshh! Don't say that so loud, or my main system might hear you and decide it's incompatible with the Core 2 Duo processor it's been running on for the last several years... lucid-nonsense:~:% grep CPU: /var/run/dmesg.boot CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz (3166.37-MHz K8-class CPU) FreeBSD is compatible with x86 architecture processors put out by Intel or Opteron since around the turn of the millenium, if not earlier. Basically, don't worry about the CPU when spec'ing your system: you are far more likely to have problems with motherboard chipsets and peripheral= s. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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From: Ross To: Steve Booth Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:32:44 -0000 This is very strange. Could you please provide a link where it is stated that C2D is not supported? I've been using Core 2 Duo E6850 with FreeBSD for about 6 years now. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Steve Booth wrote: > Hi, > > I need to replace the CPU in my motherboard and I am planning to install > FreeBSD. It appears in the FreeBSD Hardware Notes that Core Duo is not > compatible. If none of those processors are compatible, would a Core 2 > Extreme Quad Processor work? The motherboard is using an LGA 775 socket and > is supposed to support both processors. > > Thanks, > > Steve Booth > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 10:50:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34F642C3 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out2130-213.mail.aliyun.com (out2130-213.mail.aliyun.com [42.156.130.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDA816C3 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:50:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Alimail-AntiSpam: AC=CONTINUE; BC=0.4054902|-1; FP=8663335017490781756|273|7|260|0|-1|-1|-1; 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Tue, 18 Feb 2014 05:44:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.155.38 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 05:44:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 08:44:00 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: how to add an aliased nic at boot time From: Aryeh Friedman To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:44:01 -0000 I need to create two virtual nics and make them get assigned at boot time... the exact command line I need to transfer to rc.conf is: ifconfig re0 alias 192.168.0.1 up -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 14:28:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75E97383 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 14:28:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-x236.google.com (mail-vc0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 334C91A84 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 14:28:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id id10so13291683vcb.13 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 06:28:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=mUXirME63iJT9765Ss0DV4xSl60qFrEUya6H1DKjNFA=; b=PwJZyPsF68RqfOPIb6Pjwq916dG9eXZrOZESygyuIwcdcHXrf6lYdVkWYqOPkOZz0j JMT3LWtdTq07m+6/q+ski0RilCo/9S8n7ElFMODJ8oTa88Y9GDOqKCYj9HpSF2E0zN8N WHOBZVj01FpJMAqWXSRvQIczI+y9XCFI4Zjr3cQ1XCow+9z54gPmFsJFfMDV/BGrPRvA 2CZlqBEUQQAFpcih0Uer71soDhu8Nfuz3ltNEZlfqBCqRKqykv3ZtrPB1+mslabBTvaz +G2ygE2O1g77f8yIDjWqU9GvSSQSll9jglVj5+ang+548TCKydFSysBcTxMpwXsPDyV2 myiA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.250.203 with SMTP id mp11mr21153985vcb.2.1392733709036; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 06:28:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.153.169 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 06:28:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 08:28:28 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: how to add an aliased nic at boot time From: Sergio Tam To: Aryeh Friedman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 14:28:30 -0000 Hello 2014-02-18 7:44 GMT-06:00 Aryeh Friedman : > I need to create two virtual nics and make them get assigned at boot > time... the exact command line I need to transfer to rc.conf is: > > ifconfig re0 alias 192.168.0.1 up RC.CONF(5) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=rc.conf&sektion=5 See network_interfaces It is possible to add IP alias entries using ifconfig(8) syn- tax with the address family keyword such as inet. Assuming that the interface in question was ed0, it might look some- thing like this: ifconfig_ed0_alias0="inet 127.0.0.253 netmask 0xffffffff" ifconfig_ed0_alias1="inet 127.0.0.254 netmask 0xffffffff" or Google search: ifconfig add alias to rc.conf freebsd http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/freebsd-how-to-setup-2-ip-address-on-one-nic.html Regards. > > -- > Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 17:06:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55A0EAB7 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:06:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-int-m.obspm.fr (smtp-int-m.obspm.fr [145.238.187.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3C581BE5 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:06:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pcjas.obspm.fr (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by smtp-int-m.obspm.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/SIO Observatoire de Paris - 07/2009) with ESMTP id s1IH1gst025213 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:01:43 +0100 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:01:42 +0100 From: Albert Shih To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: pkg or ports. Message-ID: <20140218170142.GA78433@pcjas.obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-Miltered: at smtp-int-m.obspm.fr with ID 530391F6.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 530391F6.000/145.238.184.233/pcjas.obspm.fr/pcjas.obspm.fr/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:06:39 -0000 Hi all, I'm little lost since FreeBSD introduce pkgng. Should I use pkgng or the ports (like I did before ?) My server is manage through puppet, so I would like to use pkg for some « basic » packages (like bash, vim etc..) but want ports system for important thing (like postgresql-server) because I can tune the option. But in that way how I manage to maintaint up2date ALL packages ? Regards. -- Albert SHIH DIO bâtiment 15 Observatoire de Paris 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex France Téléphone : +33 1 45 07 76 26/+33 6 86 69 95 71 xmpp: jas@obspm.fr Heure local/Local time: mar 18 fév 2014 17:59:13 CET From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 17:46:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEFBB928 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:46:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.davids-website.com (ltcddata.plus.com [212.159.87.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 762A810C3 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:46:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avatar.davids-website.com (avatar.davids-website.com [10.0.0.1]) by www.davids-website.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4362284C for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:37:56 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:37:58 +0000 From: LtCdData To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg or ports. Message-ID: <20140218173758.62bf0cd4@avatar.davids-website.com> In-Reply-To: <20140218170142.GA78433@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <20140218170142.GA78433@pcjas.obspm.fr> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; i386-portbld-freebsd9.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:46:18 -0000 On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:01:42 +0100 Albert Shih wrote: > Hi all,=20 >=20 > I'm little lost since FreeBSD introduce pkgng. >=20 > Should I use pkgng or the ports (like I did before ?) >=20 > My server is manage through puppet, so I would like to use pkg for some > =AB=A0basic =BB packages (like bash, vim etc..) but want ports system for > important thing (like postgresql-server) because I can tune the option.=20 >=20 > But in that way how I manage to maintaint up2date ALL packages ?=20 >=20 > Regards. >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Albert SHIH > DIO b=E2timent 15 > Observatoire de Paris > 5 Place Jules Janssen > 92195 Meudon Cedex > France > T=E9l=E9phone : +33 1 45 07 76 26/+33 6 86 69 95 71 > xmpp: jas@obspm.fr > Heure local/Local time: > mar 18 f=E9v 2014 17:59:13 CET > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 Using binary packages is all very well for a fast install but I have found = that once you start to move into using ports its better to stay with ports. Any time I have done a check on binary updates available, it wanted to undo= a lot of what had been changed by ports even for silly small reasons, hens= e a conflict between the both upgrade paths. For me at least, once I moved onto ports, its stay on ports. =20 =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 18:08:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D77A9E4D for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [37.59.62.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C836128C for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (149.169.100.84.rev.sfr.net [84.100.169.149]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3B53A2CFA; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:08:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768D1B059A; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:08:00 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:07:59 +0100 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: Albert Shih Subject: Re: pkg or ports. Message-ID: <20140218190759.44d565ee@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> In-Reply-To: <20140218170142.GA78433@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <20140218170142.GA78433@pcjas.obspm.fr> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; i386-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (smtp.lamaiziere.net [0.0.0.0]); Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:08:01 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:08:08 -0000 Le Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:01:42 +0100, Albert Shih a =E9crit : Hello, > I'm little lost since FreeBSD introduce pkgng. >=20 > Should I use pkgng or the ports (like I did before ?) This is two differents things, ports build packages and pkg manages the packages. You can use both. > My server is manage through puppet, so I would like to use pkg for > some =AB=A0basic =BB packages (like bash, vim etc..) but want ports system > for important thing (like postgresql-server) because I can tune the > option.=20 I suggest to use poudriere to build your own packages (using your options). Then it is very easy to upgrade a full machine with pkg upgrade -f And you are sur that the packages set is consistant. > But in that way how I manage to maintaint up2date ALL packages ?=20 poudriere and pkg :-) Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 18:30:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A2886DE for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:30:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-int-m.obspm.fr (smtp-int-m.obspm.fr [145.238.187.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6C3614D0 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:30:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pcjas.obspm.fr (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by smtp-int-m.obspm.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/SIO Observatoire de Paris - 07/2009) with ESMTP id s1IIU6li008856 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:30:07 +0100 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:30:06 +0100 From: Albert Shih To: Patrick Lamaiziere Subject: Re: pkg or ports. Message-ID: <20140218183006.GA96258@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <20140218170142.GA78433@pcjas.obspm.fr> <20140218190759.44d565ee@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20140218190759.44d565ee@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-Miltered: at smtp-int-m.obspm.fr with ID 5303A6AE.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 5303A6AE.000/145.238.184.233/pcjas.obspm.fr/pcjas.obspm.fr/ Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:30:11 -0000 Le 18/02/2014 à 19:07:59+0100, Patrick Lamaiziere a écrit > Le Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:01:42 +0100, > Albert Shih a écrit : > > Hello, > > > I'm little lost since FreeBSD introduce pkgng. > > > > Should I use pkgng or the ports (like I did before ?) > > This is two differents things, ports build packages and pkg manages the > packages. You can use both. > > > My server is manage through puppet, so I would like to use pkg for > > some « basic » packages (like bash, vim etc..) but want ports system > > for important thing (like postgresql-server) because I can tune the > > option. > > I suggest to use poudriere to build your own packages (using your > options). Then it is very easy to upgrade a full machine with pkg > upgrade -f Ok. > And you are sur that the packages set is consistant. > > > But in that way how I manage to maintaint up2date ALL packages ? > > poudriere and pkg :-) Ok. One more question (probably stupid...): My server use jail, can I use the host to build and use it on all jail ? or should I use a jail for poudriere ? Thanks for the help Regards. JAS -- Albert SHIH DIO bâtiment 15 Observatoire de Paris 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex France Téléphone : +33 1 45 07 76 26/+33 6 86 69 95 71 xmpp: jas@obspm.fr Heure local/Local time: mar 18 fév 2014 19:28:45 CET From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 18:36:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5981976 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:36:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from luigi.brtsvcs.net (luigi.brtsvcs.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:1000:1f00::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0FBB1589 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:36:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (c-76-115-19-22.hsd1.or.comcast.net [76.115.19.22]) by luigi.brtsvcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9A7D22D4FD4; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:36:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2601:7:880:bd0:4dc6:fe9a:fceb:5eeb] (unknown [IPv6:2601:7:880:bd0:4dc6:fe9a:fceb:5eeb]) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3E39E29F; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:36:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5303A82F.3060205@bluerosetech.com> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:36:31 -0800 From: Darren Pilgrim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Albert Shih , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg or ports. References: <20140218170142.GA78433@pcjas.obspm.fr> In-Reply-To: <20140218170142.GA78433@pcjas.obspm.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:36:38 -0000 On 2/18/2014 9:01 AM, Albert Shih wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm little lost since FreeBSD introduce pkgng. > > Should I use pkgng or the ports (like I did before ?) > > My server is manage through puppet, so I would like to use pkg for some > « basic » packages (like bash, vim etc..) but want ports system for > important thing (like postgresql-server) because I can tune the option. Puppet is not going to very work well for you if you have it firing off port builds on your managed systems. Use poudriere to create custom packages and have puppet install those. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 19:57:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90D7577C for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:57:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B8E31D50 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:57:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WFqmw-0005ZD-OG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:57:06 +0100 Received: from pool-173-79-82-127.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.82.127]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:57:06 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-82-127.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:57:06 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: gre tunnel doesn't create Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 14:56:46 -0500 Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-82-127.washdc.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: KNode/4.12.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:57:16 -0000 s m wrote: > hello all > > i have freebsd 9.2 which is customized. now when i want to create gre > tunnel and run "ifconfig gre0 create" command, this error is shown: > > ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE2: Invalid argument > > i check this command on a fresh freebsd 9.2 and it works so my changes > cause this. i have many changes on my freebsd (install many services, > optimize kernel and ...) and i need all of them. do you have any > suggestion what change causes this error? or how can i fix it in order to > be able to create a gre tunnel? > Try and kldload the if_gre.ko module and see if that works. If so put if_gre_load="YES" in /boot/loader.conf or build kernel with device gre to make it permanent. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 20:38:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C12DCF56 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:38:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from m2.gritton.org (gritton.org [199.192.164.235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DAD61206 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:38:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.34] (c-50-168-192-61.hsd1.ut.comcast.net [50.168.192.61]) (authenticated bits=0) by m2.gritton.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s1IKcpDX047240; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:38:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jamie@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <5303C4D5.80007@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:38:45 -0700 From: James Gritton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: security.jail.param.allow.socket_af=1 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: alexus X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:38:52 -0000 On 2/16/2014 2:15 PM, alexus wrote: > I'm trying to change following and for whatever reason it won't allow me to > do so: > > root@fx:~ # sysctl security.jail.param.allow.socket_af=1 > security.jail.param.allow.socket_af: 0 -> 0 > root@fx:~ # > > any ideas? > Thanks! The security.jail.param.* sysctls are informational only - and the only information they provide is the names and types of the jail parameters (which is used by jail(8)). Instead of trying to set the sysctl as some sort of global value, you want to instead set the parameter itself. Whether inside a jail definition, or perhaps as a global outside of any jail definitions, you should include: allow.socket_af; in /etc/jail.conf. See jail(8) and jail.conf(5) for the background on this. - Jamie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 20:55:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89949510 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from m2.gritton.org (gritton.org [199.192.164.235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D893139C for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.34] (c-50-168-192-61.hsd1.ut.comcast.net [50.168.192.61]) (authenticated bits=0) by m2.gritton.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s1IKWE21047105; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:32:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jamie@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <5303C349.6060500@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:32:09 -0700 From: James Gritton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: jail -r & jail -R References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:55:46 -0000 On 2/14/2014 8:51 AM, dweimer wrote: > > I think I may have discovered a bug in the jail management system, if > you look at the man page for jail. > > -r Remove the jail specified by jid or name. All jailed processes > are killed, and all children of this jail are also removed. > > -R A variation of the -r option that removes an existing jail with- > out using the configuration file. No removal-related > parameters > for this jail will be used - the jail will simply be > removed. > > However I have discovered, even though -r says it can take either the > jail name or jail id, if you use the id it appears to function as if > you used the -R option instead, whereas using the -r option with the > name correctly stops the jail with the configuration parameters from > the jail.conf. > > I discovered this trying to figure out why the jails devfs system was > not dismounting, and my exec.poststop script was not running. I > discovered that if I used the name instead of id, I didn't run into > this issue. > > Can anyone else verify that this is a bug or invalid information in > man if its not, or do I have something wrong in my configuration, > below is a sample configuration and steps that can be used to > reproduce the issue. > > Example /etc/jail.conf: > > apache { > jid = 1; > host.hostname = apache.mydomainname.com; > ip4.addr = 192.168.1.2; > interface = em0; > path = /jails/apache/10.0-r260787-2014.02.12; > allow.mount.devfs; > mount.devfs; > allow.sysvipc; > exec.start = "/bin/sh /etc/rc"; > exec.stop = "/bin/sh /etc/rc.shutdown"; > exec.prestart = "/jails/apache/prestart.sh"; > exec.poststop = "/jails/apache/poststop.sh"; > exec.consolelog = "/jails/apache/console.log"; > } > > repeatable test scenario: > > jail -c apache > all looks good > jail -r apache > all is right, jail devfs is gone, /jails/apache/proststop.sh ran. > jail -c apache > all looks good > jail -r 1 > something is wrong > /jails/apache/10.0-r260787-2014.02.12/dev is still mounted > /jails/apache/proststop.sh hasn't run > jail is gone > do manually cleanup > umount /jails/apache/10.0-r260787-2014.02.12/dev > execute /jails/apache/proststop.sh script > jail -c apache > all looks good > jail -R apache > As expected > /jails/apache/10.0-r260787-2014.02.12/dev is still mounted > /jails/apache/proststop.sh hasn't run > jail is gone. It's not exactly a bug, more what I'd call the limits of the program. The "-r" option fills two functions, due to backward compatibility, where the previous jail(8) used to be entirely unaware of the configuration (knowing only the current kernel state). So first it will try to be an analog to "-c" and properly remove a jail that's specified in the config file. If it can't find that, it falls back to the old behavior, which is the same as "-R": it just removes the jail it finds in the kernel. The limitation comes from how it attempts to find the jail in the config file. It just looks for a jail definition named after what's specified on the command line. In your care, there's a jail definition for "apache" but not for "1". It's true that the "apache" jail has jid=1 specified; but that's only part of its definition, not its identity. This is different from "-R" looking in the kernel, where both jail names and IDs are searched for. So both "jail -R 1" and "jail -R apache" find it in the kernel, where only "jail -r apache" finds it in the config file. - Jamie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 22:02:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DCA21CA for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:02:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B847C1A39 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774DA17010; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:54:13 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <5303D64D.8040504@hdk5.net> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:53:17 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org, Al Plant Subject: Loading 10.0 on old HD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:02:41 -0000 Aloha, Where can I find a "how to on" loading the new 10.0 Freebsd onto a HD which already has a previous version of 9* 8* 7* or Windows on it. There is an error I think from the old boot loader from the original OS on there. Error: init The process stops with: /bin/sh ON /etc/rc Then goes to single usr mode: How can I clean the disk from whatever is stopping the process of loading the new Loader and OS 10.0 I have 7 of these HD's I have tried. Thanks.. any help appreciated. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 22:19:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57A817ED for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:19:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17B481BA0 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:19:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-0-90.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.0.90]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1B353CC54; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:19:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s1IMJ0Ib002487; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:19:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:19:00 +0100 From: Polytropon To: noc@hdk5.net Subject: Re: Loading 10.0 on old HD Message-Id: <20140218231900.012a5185.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <5303D64D.8040504@hdk5.net> References: <5303D64D.8040504@hdk5.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:19:32 -0000 On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:53:17 -1000, Al Plant wrote: > Aloha, > > Where can I find a "how to on" loading the new 10.0 Freebsd onto a HD > which already has a previous version of 9* 8* 7* or Windows on it. > > There is an error I think from the old boot loader from the original OS > on there. > > Error: > > init > The process stops with: > /bin/sh ON /etc/rc > > Then goes to single usr mode: > How can I clean the disk from whatever is stopping the process of > loading the new Loader and OS 10.0 > > I have 7 of these HD's I have tried. > > Thanks.. any help appreciated. Delete the first part of the disk (overwrite with null bytes), for example using the 10.0 installation CD shell or a Linux from disk (e. g. tomsrtbt): # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=1k count=1000 This erases the 1st MB of the disk. Any boot loader should be gone now. As you're going to do a fresh install (if I read your question correctly), this doesn't matter. The remaining garbage on the disk isn't associated to a partition or OS anymore, so you can create the new partitions you need and install the OS without paying attention to what has been on the disk before. Check "dmesg" output to verify which device name is associated to the disk in question. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 22:21:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89B2E901 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:21:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-x229.google.com (mail-vc0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 489621C24 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:21:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id hq11so13796927vcb.14 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 14:21:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XPqLc6zd7Q9+j0JmJed8HGP88XdYDGDmLO7nwdUcjJA=; b=JO5GIhwISnz2bBWMjEAN5Bzwk7s8SNTAhw4zzv54tluIy4Qjw2TFPfUbS3k59UoB5j PdYSsNV/6PMb8CjKKuJNy7mmXaIkkIGW8yertWQYxA5LGPNwD+86rkXeVfuxP2Y0KxBi mLfIKiMaZ+DAtj6SrZ+hQso4rKS70ICORwO5707KLMSPlyCDLAxBd41Ac6xnEG0fIxHq hmTxAkdHyYkGSH6SqhOdgunHX7N4uIKWpojJZ7BVUkm1HNgz/YWYcCIvwY6ihQIxjlhR IZ/VMgPTmkGx5Nj11FK+FyK2I6Rm/YUtF5oCGqyl29C6MN9SnqbjR9dBnmR4lpY4A2IZ zteg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.243.164 with SMTP id wz4mr14760562vdc.31.1392762094294; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 14:21:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.227.73 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 14:21:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5303D64D.8040504@hdk5.net> References: <5303D64D.8040504@hdk5.net> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:21:34 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Loading 10.0 on old HD From: B J To: noc@hdk5.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:21:35 -0000 On 2/18/14, Al Plant wrote: > Aloha, > > Where can I find a "how to on" loading the new 10.0 Freebsd onto a HD > which already has a previous version of 9* 8* 7* or Windows on it. > > There is an error I think from the old boot loader from the original OS > on there. > > Error: > > init > The process stops with: > /bin/sh ON /etc/rc > > Then goes to single usr mode: > How can I clean the disk from whatever is stopping the process of > loading the new Loader and OS 10.0 > > I have 7 of these HD's I have tried. > This may not be the answer you're looking for, but whenever I install a new version of FreeBSD on a drive, I usually delete all existing partitions using the Linux utility Parted Magic: http://partedmagic.com/ I don't recall ever having any installation problems after it. On the other hand, one can completely wipe a drive using Darik's Boot and Nuke (also known as DBAN), available from: http://www.dban.org/ B. M. Jatzeck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 22:28:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD11DA97; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:28:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from h3lix.wtfayla.net (helix.wtfayla.net [24.105.170.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 012BC1C74; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:28:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h3lix.wtfayla.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D25484B67; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:27:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from h3lix.wtfayla.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (h3lix.wtfayla.net [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24898-05; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:27:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from helix.wtfayla.net (helix.wtfayla.net [24.105.170.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h3lix.wtfayla.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE0FC84B62; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:27:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:27:52 -0500 (EST) From: freebsd@fongaboo.com X-X-Sender: fongaboo@helix.wtfayla.net To: Eitan Adler , questions@freebsd.org Subject: ZFS on Hardware RAID controller In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:28:55 -0000 When we spoke, you noted that when installing ZFS on multiple disks connected to a hardware RAID controller, it is best to config it to JBOD. I tried to explain this to a colleague, but they were skeptical. Would you (or anyone) be willing to give me a one or two line sales-pitch on why one should abandon traditional notions of RAID performance in favor of allowing ZFS to do disk management? Thanx FONG ------------------------------------------------------------------------- shot through the heart ooh baby do you know what that's worth and you're to blame ooh heaven is a place on earth darling you give love they say in heaven love comes first a bad name we'll make heaven a place on earth ORBITAL "Halcyon Live" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 22:53:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8766BE01 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:53:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675F41FA8 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:53:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D96A3AD93 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 14:53:20 -0800 (PST) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Semi-urgent: Disable NTP replies? Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 14:53:20 -0800 Message-ID: <2505.1392764000@server1.tristatelogic.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:53:20 -0000 I didn't realize it until today, but the games people are out there playing nowadays with respect to NTP are now DRASTICALLY affecting me, so much so that essentially 100% of my outbound bandwidth was being used up just in sending out NTP reply packets... something that I had never even intended to do in the first place! So, um, I've had to put in a new stopgap ipfw rule, just to stop these bloody &^%$#@ NTP reply packets from leaving my server, but what is that Right Way to solve this problem? I'm guessing that there's something I need to add to my /etc/ntp.conf file in order to tell my local ntpd to simply not accept incoming _query_ packets unlees they are coming from my own LAN, yes? But obviously, I still need it to accept incoming ntp _reply_ packets or else my machine will never know the correct time. Sorry. The answer I'm looking for is undoubtedly listed in an FAQ someplace, but I am very much on edge right at the moment... because I was basiaclly being DDoS'd by all of this stupid NTP traffic... and thus I'm seeking a quick answer. P.S. I am apparently being flooded with incoming NTP (udp/123) packets from *at least* the folliowing 24 IPs: 2.96.19.163 host-2-96-19-163.as13285.net 5.199.142.210 z210.zebra.fastwebserver.de 31.7.58.36 client.customer-aa.net 37.187.132.225 ns402612.ip-37-187-132.eu 37.187.133.51 ns317118.ip-37-187-133.eu 37.221.160.125 ixam-hosting.com 65.32.59.85 653259hfc85.tampabay.res.rr.com 68.192.120.151 ool-44c07897.dyn.optonline.net 69.65.43.36 ip-69.65.43.36.servernap.net 81.111.94.88 cpc6-bsfd8-2-0-cust599.5-3.cable.virginm.net 82.11.90.88 cpc23-acto2-2-0-cust599.4-2.cable.virginm.net 85.159.237.27 86.198.53.109 AAubervilliers-652-1-234-109.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr 92.106.200.52 52-200.106-92.cust.bluewin.ch 99.238.42.125 CPE78cd8e6ea140-CM78cd8e6ea13d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 121.73.107.79 121-73-107-79.cable.telstraclear.net 151.228.44.248 97e42cf8.skybroadband.com 174.54.78.149 c-174-54-78-149.hsd1.pa.comcast.net 176.100.32.106 web01.intercolo.net 179.181.181.76 179.181.181.76.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br 187.85.246.135 187-85-246-135.user.superitelecom.com.br 198.24.164.162 node108.mcprohosting.com 209.141.38.104 212.38.163.85 maid18.multiplay.co.uk To be clear, I *do not* think that I am being targeted, or that anyone is intentionally DDoSing me. Rather, I suspect that I'm just being used as a reflector or something, and that the real intended target is elsewhere. But I *REALLY* don't want to be a reflector, and wouldn't want to be one, even if 100% of my own miniscule outbound bandwidth wasn't being sucked up. P.P.S. Who are these guys (who are actually initiating all this stuff) anyway, and how the bleep did I manage to get on their list? Should I just assume that they have their robots out, 24/7, searching for anything and everything that will send NTP response packets? I guess that's it, yes? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 23:04:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F18A4411 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728ED10DB for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:04:43 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtAIAJ7mA1M6Bv8H/2dsb2JhbABZgwY4qQ6CHZVtgSAWdIIlAQEBAwEBAjc/BQsLDQETJQ8FFAQZBAETE4dxAwkHDsxNF4xPgT5XB4MkgRQElVxnB4FlgTOEfj+Fb4VGg0EogS0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,503,1389715200"; d="scan'208";a="497105148" Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) ([58.6.255.7]) by icp-osb-irony-out9.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 19 Feb 2014 07:04:33 +0800 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0ECC143C; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:04:30 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:04:29 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Steve Booth Subject: Re: Is Any Intel Core 2 Core Duo Processors Compatible with FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20140218230429.GA90045@ozzmosis.com> References: <1392707926.74452.YahooMailNeo@web165003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1392707926.74452.YahooMailNeo@web165003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:04:44 -0000 On Mon 2014-02-17 23:18:46 UTC-0800, Steve Booth (gotee_rustypaws@yahoo.com) wrote: > I need to replace the CPU in my motherboard and I am planning to > install FreeBSD. It appears in the FreeBSD Hardware Notes that Core > Duo is not compatible. If you read closely this only applies to the amd64 version of FreeBSD. It is because the original Core Duo doesn't support 64-bit mode required by FreeBSD-amd64. Note the Core Duo and Core 2 Duo are different CPUs. Evidently this has come up before: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-January/237144.html > If none of those processors are compatible, would a Core 2 Extreme > Quad Processor work? The motherboard is using an LGA 775 socket and is > supposed to support both processors. It should be fine. Any Intel or AMD CPU made in the last 15+ years intended to run Windows will also run FreeBSD. Worst case, on some lower-spec CPUs, only the i386 version of FreeBSD will work, which restricts you to a maximum of 4 GB memory (among other things). In contrast, the amd64 version has practically no memory limit. Most modern CPUs made since 2006 will run both the i386 and amd64 version of FreeBSD. Regards Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 23:08:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C4AD5D6 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:08:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E28D111F for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:08:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916AF3AD93 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:08:35 -0800 (PST) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Semi-urgent: Disable NTP replies? Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:08:35 -0800 Message-ID: <2657.1392764915@server1.tristatelogic.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:08:36 -0000 OK, so I _partially_ answered my own question, just by doing what I should have done to begin with, i.e. perusing my current /etc/ntp.conf file. It contains the following, but this STILL doesn't really answer my question: ========================================================================== ... # The following three servers will give you a random set of three # NTP servers geographically close to you. # See http://www.pool.ntp.org/ for details. Note, the pool encourages # users with a static IP and good upstream NTP servers to add a server # to the pool. See http://www.pool.ntp.org/join.html if you are interested. # # The option `iburst' is used for faster initial synchronisation. # server 0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org iburst server 1.freebsd.pool.ntp.org iburst server 2.freebsd.pool.ntp.org iburst ... # Security: Only accept NTP traffic from the following hosts. # The following configuration example only accepts traffic from the # above defined servers. # # Please note that this example doesn't work for the servers in # the pool.ntp.org domain since they return multiple A records. # (This is the reason that by default they are commented out) # #restrict default ignore #restrict 0.pool.ntp.org nomodify nopeer noquery notrap #restrict 1.pool.ntp.org nomodify nopeer noquery notrap #restrict 2.pool.ntp.org nomodify nopeer noquery notrap #restrict 127.0.0.1 #restrict -6 ::1 #restrict 127.127.1.0 ... ========================================================================== OK, good. So I have a way of telling ntpd not to accept queries from anyplace other than a set of specific hosts... which can be specified either by name or by IP address. That's swell, HOWEVER... Am I the only guy in the universe who has noticed that the specific host names in that lower (security) part do not match the ones in the upper part? Is this going to be a problem? Should I uncomment that whole "security" section AND also change the specific host names mentioned in there so that the match the ones above... you know... the names of the actual servers that I am drawing time data from? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 23:11:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC17A6C0; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from icp-osb-irony-out2.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out2.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0769411AA; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:11:21 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgkFAFjoA1M6Bv8H/2dsb2JhbABZgwbBUIEgFnSCJQEBBAE6Mg0FCwsNFCUPBRhEh30HzF8XjmQHFoMOgRQEmC+GMT+LNYNBKA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,503,1389715200"; d="scan'208";a="183459826" Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) ([58.6.255.7]) by icp-osb-irony-out2.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 19 Feb 2014 07:11:12 +0800 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 59132442; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:11:11 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:11:11 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: freebsd@fongaboo.com Subject: Re: ZFS on Hardware RAID controller Message-ID: <20140218231111.GB90045@ozzmosis.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Eitan Adler X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:11:23 -0000 On Tue 2014-02-18 17:27:52 UTC-0500, freebsd@fongaboo.com (freebsd@fongaboo.com) wrote: > When we spoke, you noted that when installing ZFS on multiple disks > connected to a hardware RAID controller, it is best to config it to JBOD. > > I tried to explain this to a colleague, but they were skeptical. Would you > (or anyone) be willing to give me a one or two line sales-pitch on why one > should abandon traditional notions of RAID performance in favor of > allowing ZFS to do disk management? Without JBOD, the hardware RAID appears to FreeBSD as a single disk. There is little to nothing to be gained from running ZFS on a single disk. Without JBOD, should a disk in the RAID fail, "zpool status" won't be able to tell you which one. Regards Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 23:12:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23E4C76A for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:12:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from luigi.brtsvcs.net (luigi.brtsvcs.net [204.109.60.246]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F03FE11C1 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (c-76-115-19-22.hsd1.or.comcast.net [76.115.19.22]) by luigi.brtsvcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 432772D4FD4; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:12:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2601:7:880:bd0:4dc6:fe9a:fceb:5eeb] (unknown [IPv6:2601:7:880:bd0:4dc6:fe9a:fceb:5eeb]) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 905572F9; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:12:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5303E8E5.5070508@bluerosetech.com> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:12:37 -0800 From: Darren Pilgrim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Semi-urgent: Disable NTP replies? References: <2505.1392764000@server1.tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: <2505.1392764000@server1.tristatelogic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:12:37 -0000 On 2/18/2014 2:53 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > I didn't realize it until today, but the games people are out there > playing nowadays with respect to NTP are now DRASTICALLY affecting me, > so much so that essentially 100% of my outbound bandwidth was being > used up just in sending out NTP reply packets... something that I > had never even intended to do in the first place! Add: restrict default kod nomodify nopeer noquery notrap restrict -6 default kod nomodify nopeer noquery notrap restrict 127.0.0.1 mask 255.0.0.0 restrict -6 ::1 to your /etc/ntp.conf. You should also use ipfw/pf to block unsolicited udp/123 inbound. If you're serving NTP (i.e., to a LAN), add lines like: restrict 192.0.2.0 mask 255.255.255.0 nomodify nopeer noquery notrap restrict -6 2001:db8:: mask ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff:: nomodify nopeer noquery notrap after the ones above. Where 192.0.2.0/24 and 2001:db8::/64 are replaced with your actual subnets. The noquery keyword is critical--it disables the monlist commands (the NTP feature used for the current version of NTP-based DDoS attacks). The kod keyword tells clients not to try again, so obviously you want to not have that for your served subnets. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 23:18:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28F4E94A for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-f54.google.com (mail-oa0-f54.google.com [209.85.219.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E51FE1205 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:18:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id i4so20386868oah.27 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:18:03 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=HwGM/jm5/2Bpb0llM1t1q3xbyqloEqxzbD3SwmFqMTM=; b=S4pwfQ/V1omg+HBo6wEKrIZ7Qdi52FeWZwk20HF20omb+uD/jSY+HwK9oMUCRW7Yt/ yiprM0yr0Blexb+gYucvLMJhH1T9XFhGSzM37ddEvDiKRIsYQnTVqUeIHLUkRuA7mR6a IcMZ2C5RM5j2mk2erl/o8xir1ko2+L3e0GXHHhDhwOc8fvDor7/3FXhIdaNumdpKX/RK lvV7tiFm6ldVDRcuwnLu9oQZznLyZIIDRh0YBBYjjQO+mPeJ3N1U1vj37XM+Dx1zEOIh PBL8wy9ABTbCzkQwf3fnkswiiEzDsiZFl/0JfgspBIgsSyAmuyKXok5hBOcm9r+jInUK v0Rw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkxVBBe1yqaKsrguEnhpv3FyeGFOXfIwSmWXuUdCz3HJG6SdRVMGCJiBOUOuvZonVXW3bDp MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.158.71 with SMTP id ws7mr28581422obb.6.1392765483421; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:18:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.21.38 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:18:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2505.1392764000@server1.tristatelogic.com> References: <2505.1392764000@server1.tristatelogic.com> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:18:03 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Semi-urgent: Disable NTP replies? From: Michael Sierchio To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:18:05 -0000 If you want to prevent your ntp process from being used in DDOS reflection attacks, just put this directive in the ntp.conf file: disable monitor You don't necessarily have to restrict access for normal queries (unless you want to). google: +ntp +reflection +ddos On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > I didn't realize it until today, but the games people are out there > playing nowadays with respect to NTP are now DRASTICALLY affecting me, > so much so that essentially 100% of my outbound bandwidth was being > used up just in sending out NTP reply packets... something that I > had never even intended to do in the first place! > > So, um, I've had to put in a new stopgap ipfw rule, just to stop these > bloody &^%$#@ NTP reply packets from leaving my server, but what is > that Right Way to solve this problem? I'm guessing that there's > something I need to add to my /etc/ntp.conf file in order to tell > my local ntpd to simply not accept incoming _query_ packets unlees > they are coming from my own LAN, yes? But obviously, I still need it > to accept incoming ntp _reply_ packets or else my machine will never > know the correct time. > > Sorry. The answer I'm looking for is undoubtedly listed in an FAQ > someplace, but I am very much on edge right at the moment... because > I was basiaclly being DDoS'd by all of this stupid NTP traffic... and > thus I'm seeking a quick answer. > > > P.S. I am apparently being flooded with incoming NTP (udp/123) packets > from *at least* the folliowing 24 IPs: > > 2.96.19.163 host-2-96-19-163.as13285.net > 5.199.142.210 z210.zebra.fastwebserver.de > 31.7.58.36 client.customer-aa.net > 37.187.132.225 ns402612.ip-37-187-132.eu > 37.187.133.51 ns317118.ip-37-187-133.eu > 37.221.160.125 ixam-hosting.com > 65.32.59.85 653259hfc85.tampabay.res.rr.com > 68.192.120.151 ool-44c07897.dyn.optonline.net > 69.65.43.36 ip-69.65.43.36.servernap.net > 81.111.94.88 cpc6-bsfd8-2-0-cust599.5-3.cable.virginm.net > 82.11.90.88 cpc23-acto2-2-0-cust599.4-2.cable.virginm.net > 85.159.237.27 > 86.198.53.109 AAubervilliers-652-1-234-109.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr > 92.106.200.52 52-200.106-92.cust.bluewin.ch > 99.238.42.125 CPE78cd8e6ea140-CM78cd8e6ea13d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com > 121.73.107.79 121-73-107-79.cable.telstraclear.net > 151.228.44.248 97e42cf8.skybroadband.com > 174.54.78.149 c-174-54-78-149.hsd1.pa.comcast.net > 176.100.32.106 web01.intercolo.net > 179.181.181.76 179.181.181.76.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br > 187.85.246.135 187-85-246-135.user.superitelecom.com.br > 198.24.164.162 node108.mcprohosting.com > 209.141.38.104 > 212.38.163.85 maid18.multiplay.co.uk > > > To be clear, I *do not* think that I am being targeted, or that anyone > is intentionally DDoSing me. Rather, I suspect that I'm just being > used as a reflector or something, and that the real intended target > is elsewhere. > > But I *REALLY* don't want to be a reflector, and wouldn't want to be one, > even if 100% of my own miniscule outbound bandwidth wasn't being sucked up. > > P.P.S. Who are these guys (who are actually initiating all this stuff) > anyway, and how the bleep did I manage to get on their list? > > Should I just assume that they have their robots out, 24/7, searching > for anything and everything that will send NTP response packets? I > guess that's it, yes? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 23:18:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 478759DA for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:18:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from luigi.brtsvcs.net (luigi.brtsvcs.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:1000:1f00::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24B9E1210 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:18:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (unknown [IPv6:2601:7:880:bd0:21c:c0ff:fe7f:96ee]) by luigi.brtsvcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 74A632D4FD4; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:18:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2601:7:880:bd0:4dc6:fe9a:fceb:5eeb] (unknown [IPv6:2601:7:880:bd0:4dc6:fe9a:fceb:5eeb]) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 435C22FC; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:18:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5303EA40.4050606@bluerosetech.com> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:18:24 -0800 From: Darren Pilgrim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Semi-urgent: Disable NTP replies? References: <2657.1392764915@server1.tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: <2657.1392764915@server1.tristatelogic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:18:24 -0000 On 2/18/2014 3:08 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > OK, so I _partially_ answered my own question, just by doing what I should > have done to begin with, i.e. perusing my current /etc/ntp.conf file. > [...] > server 0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org iburst > server 1.freebsd.pool.ntp.org iburst > server 2.freebsd.pool.ntp.org iburst [...] > #restrict 0.pool.ntp.org nomodify nopeer noquery notrap > #restrict 1.pool.ntp.org nomodify nopeer noquery notrap > #restrict 2.pool.ntp.org nomodify nopeer noquery notrap [...] > > Am I the only guy in the universe who has noticed that the specific host > names in that lower (security) part do not match the ones in the upper > part? No. > Is this going to be a problem? Yes, because there's no guarantee 0.freebsd.pool and 0.pool will have the same set of addresses. In fact, it's pretty much guaranteed they will never have the same set since the vast majority of pool servers are not running FreeBSD. You can use DNS names in restrict lines, but the default configuration is only necessary because it includes the "ignore" keyword in the default restrictions. If you instead use "kod nomodify nopeer noquery notrap" or "nomodify nopeer noquery notrap" and a firewall rule preventing unsolicited udp/123, you get the same result without worrying about whether or not you just configured ntpd to ignore replies to its own servers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 23:25:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42B1CF2B for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:25:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from luigi.brtsvcs.net (luigi.brtsvcs.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:1000:1f00::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DA3312D9 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:25:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (unknown [IPv6:2601:7:880:bd0:21c:c0ff:fe7f:96ee]) by luigi.brtsvcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4735A2D4FB4; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:25:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2601:7:880:bd0:4dc6:fe9a:fceb:5eeb] (unknown [IPv6:2601:7:880:bd0:4dc6:fe9a:fceb:5eeb]) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1ADB8302; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:25:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5303EBE8.7050300@bluerosetech.com> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:25:28 -0800 From: Darren Pilgrim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Sierchio , "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: Semi-urgent: Disable NTP replies? References: <2505.1392764000@server1.tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:25:28 -0000 On 2/18/2014 3:18 PM, Michael Sierchio wrote: > If you want to prevent your ntp process from being used in DDOS > reflection attacks, just put this directive in the ntp.conf file: > > disable monitor > > You don't necessarily have to restrict access for normal queries > (unless you want to). You can disable the monitoring features, but they do have use. Normal queries are only restricted if you use the "kod" or "ignore" restrict keywords. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 23:26:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA720FDE for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:26:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpb.telissant.net (smtpb.telissant.net [199.233.230.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCAB712F0 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:26:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from barrida.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtpb.telissant.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326512730E for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:17:47 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at telissant.net Received: from smtpb.telissant.net ([127.0.0.1]) by barrida.3dresearch.com (barrida.3dresearch.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bCmKdIK_XG8I for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:17:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from doncurzio.3dresearch.com (pool-71-112-5-200.pitbpa.east.verizon.net [71.112.5.200]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtpb.telissant.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 670DB27392 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:17:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from doncurzio.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by doncurzio.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A147FA1E49 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:17:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:06:20 -0500 From: Janos Dohanics To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Reverse DNS question Message-Id: <20140218180620.0807880cf0dd661482e394b9@3dresearch.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:26:43 -0000 Hello List, Could you please explain this odd behavior: My Postfix logs show entries like this: Feb 18 08:35:13 barrida postfix/smtpd[86649]: connect from unknown[207.238.171.17] Feb 18 08:35:13 barrida postfix/smtpd[86705]: connect from spam2.continental-realestate.com[207.238.171.17] This host is a source of legitimate messages, and sends a number of messages every day. However, it seems that more often than not, Postfix is unable to resolve the name for 207.238.171.17. Postfix queries a resolver (djbdns) which runs on the same machine. I understand that DNS lookups can fail for reasons other than records not existing. However, every time I check with host: # host 207.238.171.17 17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer mail1.continental-realestate.com. 17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer mail.continental-realestate.com. 17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer spam2.continental-realestate.com. or with dig: # dig -x 207.238.171.17 ; <<>> DiG 9.9.3-P2 <<>> -x 207.238.171.17 ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 32993 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR ;; ANSWER SECTION: 17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa. 38333 IN PTR mail1.continental-realestate.com. 17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa. 38333 IN PTR mail.continental-realestate.com. 17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa. 38333 IN PTR spam2.continental-realestate.com. ;; Query time: 5 msec ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) ;; WHEN: Tue Feb 18 17:41:23 EST 2014 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 130 I get replies as expected. Of all the hosts which send e-mail regularly, this is the only one with such odd behavior. So, my questions are: 1. Other than network congestion, what might cause this recurring name resolution failure? 2. If you look at the time stamps of the above 2 log entries: How is it possible that precisely at the same time, name resolution BOTH does not succeed AND does succeed? This "coinciding" time stamp isn't unique either; I could show a number of other instances. The system is FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE, postfix-2.10.2,1, djbdns-1.05. -- Janos Dohanics From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 23:36:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 063D91FE for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:36:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x236.google.com (mail-qc0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5E3C13CE for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:36:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id c9so26978324qcz.27 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:36:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dGGUrAqqMyyyikFSjlNVjqSNxGlyyK35Emffqwj3V6c=; b=zK/D70kZXVkpAK7+g3ckOEOsqMX24fKMc1vuwailmBItIEE1o7vmmW8KyIhj+lM6R4 5nJy+/kq8gzXyNRalnoee962h0BD+9DVEdDW8+MRtKIvRPZ7E5Uz6GwjRsujozyVvQtF zIMg2uU8W6PYXenbXLAmlszdOahUcHZCdel3uuo78lJxtJtkCYKw/LlcLUOJ7K7dTXqa lS0Ka3iUxvXQMbfymQy2n1elssM9Nk/VIpnCBJQVv/FrnwbhPwMra42IYdSkpBEWGPcZ MJDrgh+AthUCwul1bDGr27C6J8zCpZFtyQ7Glpk4hIoLmS+X13SXKIxEr5JYQWXWRI65 w0vw== X-Received: by 10.224.98.139 with SMTP id q11mr47675462qan.64.1392766613947; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:36:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.10] ([96.250.7.216]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z18sm19087475qab.5.2014.02.18.15.36.53 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:36:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5303EE8A.5040503@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:36:42 -0500 From: Kevin Phair User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Janos Dohanics , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Reverse DNS question References: <20140218180620.0807880cf0dd661482e394b9@3dresearch.com> In-Reply-To: <20140218180620.0807880cf0dd661482e394b9@3dresearch.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:36:55 -0000 mail1.continental-realestate.com doesn't appear to resolve. Is it possible that postfix reports 'unknown' whenever thats the name it gets in the reverse lookup? On 2/18/14, 6:06 PM, Janos Dohanics wrote: > Hello List, > > Could you please explain this odd behavior: > > My Postfix logs show entries like this: > > Feb 18 08:35:13 barrida postfix/smtpd[86649]: connect from unknown[207.238.171.17] > Feb 18 08:35:13 barrida postfix/smtpd[86705]: connect from spam2.continental-realestate.com[207.238.171.17] > > This host is a source of legitimate messages, and sends a number of > messages every day. However, it seems that more often than not, Postfix > is unable to resolve the name for 207.238.171.17. Postfix queries a > resolver (djbdns) which runs on the same machine. > > I understand that DNS lookups can fail for reasons other than records > not existing. However, every time I check with host: > > # host 207.238.171.17 > 17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer mail1.continental-realestate.com. > 17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer mail.continental-realestate.com. > 17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer spam2.continental-realestate.com. > > or with dig: > > # dig -x 207.238.171.17 > > ; <<>> DiG 9.9.3-P2 <<>> -x 207.238.171.17 > ;; global options: +cmd > ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 32993 > ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 > > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR > > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > 17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa. 38333 IN PTR mail1.continental-realestate.com. > 17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa. 38333 IN PTR mail.continental-realestate.com. > 17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa. 38333 IN PTR spam2.continental-realestate.com. > > ;; Query time: 5 msec > ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) > ;; WHEN: Tue Feb 18 17:41:23 EST 2014 > ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 130 > > I get replies as expected. > > Of all the hosts which send e-mail regularly, this is the only one with > such odd behavior. > > So, my questions are: > > 1. Other than network congestion, what might cause this recurring name > resolution failure? > > 2. If you look at the time stamps of the above 2 log entries: How is it > possible that precisely at the same time, name resolution BOTH does not > succeed AND does succeed? This "coinciding" time stamp isn't unique > either; I could show a number of other instances. > > The system is FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE, postfix-2.10.2,1, djbdns-1.05. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 23:43:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FF3D2E8 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:43:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from luigi.brtsvcs.net (luigi.brtsvcs.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:1000:1f00::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BC4614BB for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (unknown [IPv6:2601:7:880:bd0:21c:c0ff:fe7f:96ee]) by luigi.brtsvcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2EE1A2D4FD4; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:43:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2601:7:880:bd0:4dc6:fe9a:fceb:5eeb] (unknown [IPv6:2601:7:880:bd0:4dc6:fe9a:fceb:5eeb]) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2C9BB30D; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:43:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5303F01C.3030205@bluerosetech.com> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:43:24 -0800 From: Darren Pilgrim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Janos Dohanics , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Reverse DNS question References: <20140218180620.0807880cf0dd661482e394b9@3dresearch.com> In-Reply-To: <20140218180620.0807880cf0dd661482e394b9@3dresearch.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:43:24 -0000 On 2/18/2014 3:06 PM, Janos Dohanics wrote: > My Postfix logs show entries like this: > > Feb 18 08:35:13 barrida postfix/smtpd[86649]: connect from unknown[207.238.171.17] > Feb 18 08:35:13 barrida postfix/smtpd[86705]: connect from spam2.continental-realestate.com[207.238.171.17] > [...] > # host 207.238.171.17 > 17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer mail1.continental-realestate.com. > 17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer mail.continental-realestate.com. > 17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer spam2.continental-realestate.com. > 1. Other than network congestion, what might cause this recurring name > resolution failure? There are a couple of issues with the above: 1. More than one PTR record for a given IP address is a misconfiguration. It is supported and there is no RFC saying you must not have more than one, but in practice most software will only look for one and thus only take the first PTR RR returned from the query. 2. mail1 and mail do not resolve to 207.238.171.17, so you only have forward-confirmed reverse DNS (FCRDNS) for spam2. Postfix will use the hostname of "unknown" for anything that does not have FCRDNS. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 23:54:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D8F6453 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:54:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FEBC158F for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:54:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C4517029; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:54:04 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <5303F268.6040804@hdk5.net> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:53:12 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Loading 10.0 on old HD References: <5303D64D.8040504@hdk5.net> <20140218231900.012a5185.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140218231900.012a5185.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:54:52 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:53:17 -1000, Al Plant wrote: >> Aloha, >> >> Where can I find a "how to on" loading the new 10.0 Freebsd onto a HD >> which already has a previous version of 9* 8* 7* or Windows on it. >> >> There is an error I think from the old boot loader from the original OS >> on there. >> >> Error: >> >> init >> The process stops with: >> /bin/sh ON /etc/rc >> >> Then goes to single usr mode: >> How can I clean the disk from whatever is stopping the process of >> loading the new Loader and OS 10.0 >> >> I have 7 of these HD's I have tried. >> >> Thanks.. any help appreciated. > > Delete the first part of the disk (overwrite with null bytes), > for example using the 10.0 installation CD shell or a Linux > from disk (e. g. tomsrtbt): > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=1k count=1000 > > This erases the 1st MB of the disk. Any boot loader should be > gone now. As you're going to do a fresh install (if I read your > question correctly), this doesn't matter. The remaining garbage > on the disk isn't associated to a partition or OS anymore, so > you can create the new partitions you need and install the OS > without paying attention to what has been on the disk before. > > Check "dmesg" output to verify which device name is associated > to the disk in question. > ########## Thanks Poly and BJ. I'll try the suggestions. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 23:55:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEF154FF for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:55:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DAF0159E for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:55:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s1INtj4T052812 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:55:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s1INtj10052809; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:55:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:55:45 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: Semi-urgent: Disable NTP replies? In-Reply-To: <2505.1392764000@server1.tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: References: <2505.1392764000@server1.tristatelogic.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:55:46 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:55:47 -0000 On Tue, 18 Feb 2014, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > I didn't realize it until today, but the games people are out there > playing nowadays with respect to NTP are now DRASTICALLY affecting me, > so much so that essentially 100% of my outbound bandwidth was being > used up just in sending out NTP reply packets... something that I > had never even intended to do in the first place! Please join the freebsd-security mailing list. There was an announcement there over a month ago. What little traffic there is on that list tends to be important. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 00:38:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42C99CC for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 00:38:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D79A718E0 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 00:38:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s1J0c57d014903 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 00:38:05 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s1J0c57d014903 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s1J0c57d014903; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <5303FCBE.3060106@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 00:37:18 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Semi-urgent: Disable NTP replies? References: <2505.1392764000@server1.tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: <2505.1392764000@server1.tristatelogic.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="o0kCxM9oHahH6if0GdO0e9rVD9juObuGN" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 00:38:12 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --o0kCxM9oHahH6if0GdO0e9rVD9juObuGN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 18/02/2014 22:53, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > So, um, I've had to put in a new stopgap ipfw rule, just to stop these > bloody &^%$#@ NTP reply packets from leaving my server, but what is > that Right Way to solve this problem? I'm guessing that there's > something I need to add to my /etc/ntp.conf file in order to tell > my local ntpd to simply not accept incoming _query_ packets unlees > they are coming from my own LAN, yes? But obviously, I still need it > to accept incoming ntp _reply_ packets or else my machine will never > know the correct time. >=20 > Sorry. The answer I'm looking for is undoubtedly listed in an FAQ > someplace, but I am very much on edge right at the moment... because > I was basiaclly being DDoS'd by all of this stupid NTP traffic... and > thus I'm seeking a quick answer. Yep. This is the latest scumbag trick: sending spoofed packets to ntpd and using it as an amplifier to do a DDoS against some victim. What you need to do is described here: http://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-14:02.ntpd.asc but in summary your actions should be one or more of: * upgrade to a version of ntpd that does not respond to 'monlist' queries. Any -RELEASE or -STABLE version post the publication of that advisory should do the trick, or you can use ntpd-devel from ports. * Firewall off your ntpd instances from accessibility from the internet. * Modify your /etc/ntp.conf to disallow most foreign connectivity to your ntpd instances. The config changes required for that last are something along the following lines, to be added to /etc/ntp.conf: restrict -4 default nomodify nopeer noquery notrap restrict -6 default nomodify nopeer noquery notrap restrict 127.0.0.1 restrict -6 ::1 restrict 127.127.1.0 If you can swing it, restrict -4 default ignore restrict -6 default ignore would be even better, but you will also need to add lines permitting appropriate traffic to and from timeservers on the network by the servers' IP number. This does mean you can't use the ntp.org time server pools without significant faffing around, as the ntp.org timeservers are pooled ang you tend to get a different IP Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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Message-Id: <20140219014725.fec40b4d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <5303FCBE.3060106@FreeBSD.org> References: <2505.1392764000@server1.tristatelogic.com> <5303FCBE.3060106@FreeBSD.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 00:47:50 -0000 On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 00:37:18 +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 18/02/2014 22:53, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > So, um, I've had to put in a new stopgap ipfw rule, just to stop these > > bloody &^%$#@ NTP reply packets from leaving my server, but what is > > that Right Way to solve this problem? I'm guessing that there's > > something I need to add to my /etc/ntp.conf file in order to tell > > my local ntpd to simply not accept incoming _query_ packets unlees > > they are coming from my own LAN, yes? But obviously, I still need it > > to accept incoming ntp _reply_ packets or else my machine will never > > know the correct time. > > > > Sorry. The answer I'm looking for is undoubtedly listed in an FAQ > > someplace, but I am very much on edge right at the moment... because > > I was basiaclly being DDoS'd by all of this stupid NTP traffic... and > > thus I'm seeking a quick answer. > > Yep. This is the latest scumbag trick: sending spoofed packets to ntpd > and using it as an amplifier to do a DDoS against some victim. For those interested in learning more about how this attack is being used by scumbags, here are a two links to read: http://blog.cloudflare.com/technical-details-behind-a-400gbps-ntp-amplification-ddos-attack http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/02/the-new-normal-200-400-gbps-ddos-attacks/ In this case, CloudFlare has been declared the victim. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 01:28:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DF05D32 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 01:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-x22c.google.com (mail-qa0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13FA61C5E for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 01:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id w5so24837123qac.31 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:28:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=l5TVKIgjqFE5SHalAIoaOnmuq5igSB/1LxpqSa0wccM=; b=m4q1mST3zgxv3Cgcvw2Zqrg3stnH252LLg8cJKtxfDeaDzZdc4vwmnrumwUOIZt1f4 mE0K96p1zkRJs8i9C7f3krTTwU6S8S9VNhxbUIn09EB8RuCOq8cSH3RWI810LlKyA/zS pi45IygFYaeODYI4S4qIO77UJc+bnPE+r4h8I= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=l5TVKIgjqFE5SHalAIoaOnmuq5igSB/1LxpqSa0wccM=; b=GQp/E0/0TEyppMiRfV3XOubSJWF+yahYHdx4asTPz1XVbgvlCYXI62I+gShmx6LMDp +cd5RH7lhNuJ3qREbOeQ5YqCP2Z6adZfqhy+hzj4qjfbFTbTvRBYl1ByRxwUiP7NoiuS delWiqqadJaXjnscSKZpdjD8pbOouoCPW2c3mX0Lq0IN+YPTg34mzgNIOo92o3/TF5Tm OJq11knHtcjI3pKW2sRTi6XqGXtvMoCrG8dWcGAjmiplCCulgqOn4SKUug7eM9L0oYrp KyX5mcwlkrbHz+ax7dSbLOcS+FZMoJg+CN61cXLCCEH9EAV8+YwwRi0Tc92lkNCZVS6B rzHA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkk1Hc0qW+R+0GMZicaC+LsscGfg4lvmqkrHiF+3J+KqlC6BngYuEGrGMTDX+tmHT7Eo5TN X-Received: by 10.224.36.195 with SMTP id u3mr47678870qad.59.1392773314315; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:28:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: lists@eitanadler.com Received: by 10.96.175.169 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:28:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Eitan Adler Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:28:04 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: hbLF6vx3a33cnE4GLzaLrlJwGsM Message-ID: Subject: Re: ZFS on Hardware RAID controller To: freebsd@fongaboo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 01:28:35 -0000 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:27 PM, wrote: > > When we spoke, you noted that when installing ZFS on multiple disks > connected to a hardware RAID controller, it is best to config it to JBOD. There are a few reasons for this. (a) Hardware RAID serves as a single point of failure: if the contoller dies you have neither disk (b) As Andrew noted , using hardware RAID means that ZFS won't be able to tell which disk is which. The ZFS management tools won't work as expected (they will show only one disk). (c) Since ZFS implements RAID itself it can use knowledge about the physical disks for better performance Also see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#ZFS_and_hardware_RAID > I tried to explain this to a colleague, but they were skeptical. Would you > (or anyone) be willing to give me a one or two line sales-pitch on "ZFS does RAID better than the controller." > why one > should abandon traditional notions of RAID performance in favor of allowing > ZFS to do disk management? The goal isn't to give up on RAID but move its implementation to ZFS. -- Eitan Adler Source, Ports, Doc committer Bugmeister, Ports Security teams From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 02:01:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53E86464; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 02:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAA4F12BD; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 02:01:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.192]) by ltcfislmsgpa06.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s1J20Z8Y015970 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:00:35 -0600 Received: from THEMADHATTER (10.242.181.54) by smarthost.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.192) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.174.1; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:00:33 -0600 From: Devin Teske To: "'andrew clarke'" , References: <20140218231111.GB90045@ozzmosis.com> In-Reply-To: <20140218231111.GB90045@ozzmosis.com> Subject: RE: ZFS on Hardware RAID controller Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:59:58 -0800 Message-ID: <0fd001cf2d16$4c0d8a80$e4289f80$@fisglobal.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQLZ7+7/ieFjnRxrw7xfyVSgmKX96wLfKSMrAmxEjEMCBj43OJhrrpaw Content-Language: en-us X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87, 1.0.14, 0.0.0000 definitions=2014-02-18_08:2014-02-18,2014-02-18,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: dteske@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, 'Eitan Adler' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 02:01:14 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: andrew clarke [mailto:mail@ozzmosis.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 3:11 PM > To: freebsd@fongaboo.com > Cc: questions@freebsd.org; Eitan Adler > Subject: Re: ZFS on Hardware RAID controller > > On Tue 2014-02-18 17:27:52 UTC-0500, freebsd@fongaboo.com > (freebsd@fongaboo.com) wrote: > > > When we spoke, you noted that when installing ZFS on multiple disks > > connected to a hardware RAID controller, it is best to config it to JBOD. > > > > I tried to explain this to a colleague, but they were skeptical. Would > > you (or anyone) be willing to give me a one or two line sales-pitch on > > why one should abandon traditional notions of RAID performance in > > favor of allowing ZFS to do disk management? > > Without JBOD, the hardware RAID appears to FreeBSD as a single disk. As one might expect, when ZFS thinks incorrectly that there is only one spindle, that it will neglect to apply internal optimizations when it has access to multiple spindles. But parallel read/write optimizations aside, the channel plays a big part in the performance impact that comes along with adding the HW RAID layer. If you're using 10Gbps iSCSI then serial access to the data is less of an issue than if you have a 2Gbps Fibre Channel. The channel acts as a bottleneck in many cases where we've tested. > There is little to nothing to be gained from running ZFS on a single disk. Nothing? I wouldn't say that. ZFS brings CoW, snapshots, lack of an fsck, and so much more. Saying that one is not interested in the raidz* vdev types doesn't mean that ZFS has nothing to provide. It may be more truthful to acknowledge that nothing has changed with respect to a statement like the following (for which you can quote me): "There is no guarantee of data safety with running any filesystem on a single disk; wherein said disk is truly one directly attached drive" Which you'll notice has had mention of ZFS removed from it. Putting ZFS on a single disk (real disk) I would imagine is perfectly fine if you: a. don't care about redundancy b. want CoW, snapshots, transfers, lack of fsck, and more features I might also add, that "zpool scrub" *is* able to detect errors even on a single-disk pool. > Without JBOD, should a disk in the RAID fail, "zpool status" > won't be able to tell you which one. > ZFS will only see said disk fail if the HW RAID stops being provided; which will only presumably be when the HW RAID is beyond degraded and has lost more drives its own parity [and/or hot spare topology] can handle. While there are a great many benefits that can be had by running your ZFS with multiple disks in one or more raid-like vdev(s) to comprise your pool, I wouldn't exactly say that ZFS is worthless on a single-disk non-raid- like vdev. just 2-cents -- Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 02:30:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E0428EA for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 02:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00E8D179A for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 02:30:01 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=mffg8PV9sCWR7szbE5lcIhqRYCZlnxdorJPYWOf35U8=; b=UDq8+c6PRBEku9+mvAIeFORJhz9ARFNLPyX9GvpvuBFYzHqDVXa4JpTDz66aIM+T6S+ErJv0ZJO03jL6s6pQiN7EgRANzmEQZMzhtjS4+uoExnGhu1zvlf5Gi/F0giUx4Am4ae8JUrLjyFMY/qO0YNhfPhKQ7tVaVse6tCHlyhQ=; Received: from [39.212.216.37] (port=20624 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1WFwv4-002Erh-Cq; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:29:55 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:29:49 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Albert Shih Subject: Re: pkg or ports. Message-ID: <20140219102949.1d1c7cd6@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <20140218170142.GA78433@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <20140218170142.GA78433@pcjas.obspm.fr> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 02:30:02 -0000 Hi, On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:01:42 +0100 Albert Shih wrote: > I'm little lost since FreeBSD introduce pkgng. it did not change much for me. You can still mix as you want. The problems come up when you update. It is then either or. I use two ways to keep my machine as current as possible. I use first svn to get the latest ports tree. I then use portupgrade to compile and install all modified ports. Not using ports during updates is not that important as it hardly saves time. More important is that you can instruct portupgrade to create packages you can then use for other machines without any downloaded or compiling. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 03:27:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C631B59 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 03:27:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pb0-x234.google.com (mail-pb0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7178510D5 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 03:27:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f52.google.com with SMTP id jt11so17719853pbb.11 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:27:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=O/OaByBXPJXj9GTQINTspwGB13INoZVQpHN/TRsgW78=; b=DfAHj1BAOMpuRjsvnEup+i6PtltVTExpiN4rhnvQQfQxqffrAQqIjNwMceRx2T4vJJ +LhdLPxDVWe1yChHp2J+my/6if8QeP/BlfybomcqO3j5krr5fwQsYsZFZahCNO+FjVKl mZcyTMA7EdZzfbKt4c5WGjGFwZL0XUpwbACpygL7j8sojrWObqx/3PmEZxnrlOs0LlIB w5QvIka7db096laeJO+Q6d3Ghu9HCa+0rheuvT+9xnj7y2adRKP0au8nRk0C32h7AQN4 +uVvY+8kuSEJyVnIcF9gT+S6bKVkb8l2IWB7mNGmi1iDSp5XynU2M+BGxXgj0SysMGng nCag== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.163.197 with SMTP id yk5mr37156370pbb.57.1392780435042; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:27:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.55.7 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:27:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20140219014725.fec40b4d.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <2505.1392764000@server1.tristatelogic.com> <5303FCBE.3060106@FreeBSD.org> <20140219014725.fec40b4d.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:27:14 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Semi-urgent: Disable NTP replies? From: Adam Vande More To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 03:27:15 -0000 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 00:37:18 +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > On 18/02/2014 22:53, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > > So, um, I've had to put in a new stopgap ipfw rule, just to stop these > > > bloody &^%$#@ NTP reply packets from leaving my server, but what is > > > that Right Way to solve this problem? I'm guessing that there's > > > something I need to add to my /etc/ntp.conf file in order to tell > > > my local ntpd to simply not accept incoming _query_ packets unlees > > > they are coming from my own LAN, yes? But obviously, I still need it > > > to accept incoming ntp _reply_ packets or else my machine will never > > > know the correct time. > > > > > > Sorry. The answer I'm looking for is undoubtedly listed in an FAQ > > > someplace, but I am very much on edge right at the moment... because > > > I was basiaclly being DDoS'd by all of this stupid NTP traffic... and > > > thus I'm seeking a quick answer. > > > > Yep. This is the latest scumbag trick: sending spoofed packets to ntpd > > and using it as an amplifier to do a DDoS against some victim. > > For those interested in learning more about how this attack > is being used by scumbags, here are a two links to read: > > > http://blog.cloudflare.com/technical-details-behind-a-400gbps-ntp-amplification-ddos-attack > > > http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/02/the-new-normal-200-400-gbps-ddos-attacks/ > > In this case, CloudFlare has been declared the victim. > Aside from the Adam Walsh hyperbole, this was a very vulnerable "feature" included in NTP to begin with and also one that lack apparent real world value. It's been removed from NTP sources for quite awhile, something like 4 years. As such I consider this to be a problem of whoever is distributing NTP. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 03:58:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EAE49ACA for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 03:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from h3lix.wtfayla.net (helix.wtfayla.net [24.105.170.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A254012D7 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 03:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h3lix.wtfayla.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0442884AEE for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:58:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from h3lix.wtfayla.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (h3lix.wtfayla.net [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 33273-07 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:58:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from helix.wtfayla.net (helix.wtfayla.net [24.105.170.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h3lix.wtfayla.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A635384AD3 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:58:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:58:01 -0500 (EST) From: freebsd@fongaboo.com X-X-Sender: fongaboo@helix.wtfayla.net To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS on Hardware RAID controller In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 03:58:49 -0000 I was speaking to someone else about this today, and it eventually became apparent that we were getting into a sort-of Abbott-and-Costello-Who's-on-First confusion... because apparently people can mean different things when they use the term 'JBOD'. What I have always meant when I say 'JBOD' is a (not really) RAID mode that simply concatenates the drives into one volume in a serial fashion, ie. 'spanning'. Most RAID controllers and RAID-enabled NAS units that I have interacted with in my life have offered this mode and referred to it as 'JBOD'. In this kind of mode, the motherboard and the OS still thinks it sees only a single volume. So now I am gathering that this is also not ideal for ZFS, since it would still not be aware of multiple physical volumes and be unable to optimize accordingly. I'm learning for the first time that sometimes 'JBOD' can also refer to each individual drive being mounted separately at least as far as the controller and the motherboard is concerned. I just want to confirm 100% that this is how you are recommending multiple drives be configured for ZFS. Because when I started the thread I was thinking of JBOD as 'spanning'. FONG On Tue, 18 Feb 2014, Eitan Adler wrote: > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:27 PM, wrote: >> >> When we spoke, you noted that when installing ZFS on multiple disks >> connected to a hardware RAID controller, it is best to config it to JBOD. > > There are a few reasons for this. > (a) Hardware RAID serves as a single point of failure: if the > contoller dies you have neither disk > (b) As Andrew noted , using hardware RAID means that ZFS won't be able > to tell which disk is which. The ZFS management tools won't work as > expected (they will show only one disk). > (c) Since ZFS implements RAID itself it can use knowledge about the > physical disks for better performance > > Also see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#ZFS_and_hardware_RAID > >> I tried to explain this to a colleague, but they were skeptical. Would you >> (or anyone) be willing to give me a one or two line sales-pitch on > > "ZFS does RAID better than the controller." > >> why one >> should abandon traditional notions of RAID performance in favor of allowing >> ZFS to do disk management? > > The goal isn't to give up on RAID but move its implementation to ZFS. > > -- > Eitan Adler > Source, Ports, Doc committer > Bugmeister, Ports Security teams > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 04:21:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5EF697E; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 04:21:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A8DA1503; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 04:21:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.191]) by ltcfislmsgpa02.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s1J4KcqS021561 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:20:38 -0600 Received: from THEMADHATTER (10.242.181.54) by smarthost.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.191) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.174.1; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:20:36 -0600 From: Sender: Devin Teske To: , References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: ZFS on Hardware RAID controller Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:20:01 -0800 Message-ID: <0fdd01cf2d29$dca0aba0$95e202e0$@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQLZ7+7/ieFjnRxrw7xfyVSgmKX96wLfKSMrAmxEjEMCYeNcAwLaiwfumFIvPAA= Content-Language: en-us X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87, 1.0.14, 0.0.0000 definitions=2014-02-19_01:2014-02-18,2014-02-19,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: dteske@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 04:21:26 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: freebsd@fongaboo.com [mailto:freebsd@fongaboo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:58 PM > To: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: ZFS on Hardware RAID controller > > > I was speaking to someone else about this today, and it eventually became > apparent that we were getting into a sort-of Abbott-and-Costello-Who's-on-First > confusion... because apparently people can mean different things when they > use the term 'JBOD'. > > What I have always meant when I say 'JBOD' is a (not really) RAID mode that > simply concatenates the drives into one volume in a serial fashion, ie. > 'spanning'. Most RAID controllers and RAID-enabled NAS units that I have > interacted with in my life have offered this mode and referred to it as 'JBOD'. > This is not entirely correct. JBOD and RAID-SPAN are two different things. Your controller either supports one, or both (aside a host of other options, such as RAID-1, RAID-10; and if often RAID-5, maybe RAID-6). RAID-SPAN is RAID-0. Which is as you describe "simply concatenates the drives into one volume in a serial fashion, ie. 'spanning'." JBOD on the other hand stands for "Just a Bunch of Disks" and is not the same as "concatenating the disks" but rather allows your controller to throw the drives at the Operating System with the attitude of "here, you do it then." We can actually therefore call ZFS's RAID capabilities, "software RAID". However, it's a very _good_ software RAID that breaks the old adage that says "hardware RAID is faster than software RAID." To highlight the difference of "JBOD" versus "spanning" (aka RAID-0; aka RAID- SPAN), take the following use-case example: 1. You take 12 drives and apply spanning logic on the controller 2. You take a controller and put it into JBOD mode In scenario one (1), your OS still sees a single drive. In scenario two (2), your OS sees all twelve drives. Just wanted to clarify that putting a controller into JBOD-mode is not to be confused with RAID-0 or spanning (which would still be utilizing the controller's software; the best benefit of ZFS comes from letting it have direct access to each/every disk). > In this kind of mode, the motherboard and the OS still thinks it sees only a > single volume. So now I am gathering that this is also not ideal for ZFS, since it > would still not be aware of multiple physical volumes and be unable to optimize > accordingly. > > I'm learning for the first time that sometimes 'JBOD' can also refer to each > individual drive being mounted separately at least as far as the controller and > the motherboard is concerned. > > I just want to confirm 100% that this is how you are recommending multiple > drives be configured for ZFS. Because when I started the thread I was thinking > of JBOD as 'spanning'. > Correct; JBOD never means span (which is RAID-0). Rather, JBOD usually means using non-RAID capable hardware with a RAID-capable operating system (e.g., using ZFS). We are again in-essence talking about using software RAID to create a software pool. I don't want to go drawing similarities to many other software RAID solutions, because ZFS is truly in a class its own. But if you're familiar with the concepts of setting up a software RAID (mdadm, vinum, graid*, etc.) then ZFS should be more familiar. That's not to say that you need to know these things to use ZFS (in practice, ZFS has predictable commands with predictable syntax) but if you have ever created a software RAID you will be in unique position to better understand the JBOD mentality. So in transitioning to a test platform that uses "JBOD" you essentially have two choices that look attractive... + Ditch the RAID card and use a standard adapter for connecting your drives + Find a way to change your RAID controller to export all the disks NB: This may involve using a LSI provided utility or flashing a QLogic card NB: If you give us your exact card info, someone may have information on how to transition it into JBOD mode for ZFS + Create a bunch of single-disk RAID-0 arrays (12 disks? 12x single-disk SPAN or RAID-0 arrays; producing 12x single LUNs for use in ZFS). Hope this gives some ideas. -- Devin > On Tue, 18 Feb 2014, Eitan Adler wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:27 PM, wrote: > >> > >> When we spoke, you noted that when installing ZFS on multiple disks > >> connected to a hardware RAID controller, it is best to config it to JBOD. > > > > There are a few reasons for this. > > (a) Hardware RAID serves as a single point of failure: if the > > contoller dies you have neither disk > > (b) As Andrew noted , using hardware RAID means that ZFS won't be able > > to tell which disk is which. The ZFS management tools won't work as > > expected (they will show only one disk). > > (c) Since ZFS implements RAID itself it can use knowledge about the > > physical disks for better performance > > > > Also see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#ZFS_and_hardware_RAID > > > >> I tried to explain this to a colleague, but they were skeptical. > >> Would you (or anyone) be willing to give me a one or two line > >> sales-pitch on > > > > "ZFS does RAID better than the controller." > > > >> why one > >> should abandon traditional notions of RAID performance in favor of > >> allowing ZFS to do disk management? > > > > The goal isn't to give up on RAID but move its implementation to ZFS. > > > > -- > > Eitan Adler > > Source, Ports, Doc committer > > Bugmeister, Ports Security teams > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 04:22:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C40CA95; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 04:22:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from secure.freebsdsolutions.net (secure.freebsdsolutions.net [69.55.234.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 609901516; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 04:22:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.46] (c-50-160-123-105.hsd1.ut.comcast.net [50.160.123.105]) (authenticated bits=0) by secure.freebsdsolutions.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1J4Maur050308 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:22:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) Subject: Re: How to use zfs send -R without risking union mounts? From: John Nielsen In-Reply-To: <52D83909.3080809@bluerosetech.com> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:22:58 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <52D83909.3080809@bluerosetech.com> To: Darren Pilgrim X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) X-DCC--Metrics: ns1.jnielsen.net 1282; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-fs , freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 04:22:56 -0000 On Jan 16, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Darren Pilgrim = wrote: > When you send -R a filesystem, it very nicely retains all of the = properties. That also includes the mountpoint property. Setting = canmount=3Doff is the only safeguard against mounting a filesystem = accidentally and it can't be inherited. That means it's rather = dangerous to send -R the filesystems on which the OS reside. >=20 > I want to create a backup using a process like: >=20 > Create the initial full backup: >=20 > zpool create backup /dev/gpt/backup > zfs create backup/tank > zfs send -R tank@yesterday | zfs recv -F backup/tank > zpool export backup >=20 > Then do incremental backups: >=20 > zpool import -N backup > zfs send -R -I tank@yesterday tank@today | zfs recv -F backup/tank > zpool export backup >=20 > The problem I ran into is zfs can mount the contents of backup/tank. = Normally if you try to mount a ZFS filesystem at a non-empty directory, = it gives the error: >=20 > mountpoint '/foo' exists and is not empty >=20 > During testing, I inadvertently dropped the -N flag to zpool import = and ZFS successfully mounted everything on the backup drive over top of = the live systems! I had two mounts for /, /var, /usr, /home, etc. = Imagining the hell of that happening in production, with active = filesystems, is an exercise for the reader. >=20 > How do you force ZFS to never automatically mount a filesystem or any = of its descendants? You can't recursively set properties and canmount = can't be inherited, so I'm stuck on how to enforce this critical bit of = safety. I've been working through this issue myself recently. My strategy is to = always run "zfs receive" with '-u' so the received filesystems won't be = mounted automatically, only use "zfs send -R" for the initial send", and = thereafter change each dataset's "canmount" property to "off", a la # zfs list -Ho name -r tank/backups/somehost | xargs -n 1 zfs set = canmount=3Doff I'd love to find a better solution, but that's been adequate so far. 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From: Waitman Gobble To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 03:03:29 -0000 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 00:37:18 +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > On 18/02/2014 22:53, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > > So, um, I've had to put in a new stopgap ipfw rule, just to stop these > > > bloody &^%$#@ NTP reply packets from leaving my server, but what is > > > that Right Way to solve this problem? I'm guessing that there's > > > something I need to add to my /etc/ntp.conf file in order to tell > > > my local ntpd to simply not accept incoming _query_ packets unlees > > > they are coming from my own LAN, yes? But obviously, I still need it > > > to accept incoming ntp _reply_ packets or else my machine will never > > > know the correct time. > > > > > > Sorry. The answer I'm looking for is undoubtedly listed in an FAQ > > > someplace, but I am very much on edge right at the moment... because > > > I was basiaclly being DDoS'd by all of this stupid NTP traffic... and > > > thus I'm seeking a quick answer. > > > > Yep. This is the latest scumbag trick: sending spoofed packets to ntpd > > and using it as an amplifier to do a DDoS against some victim. > > For those interested in learning more about how this attack > is being used by scumbags, here are a two links to read: > > > http://blog.cloudflare.com/technical-details-behind-a-400gbps-ntp-amplification-ddos-attack > > > http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/02/the-new-normal-200-400-gbps-ddos-attacks/ > > In this case, CloudFlare has been declared the victim. > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi, The ntpd in src is Ver. 4.2.4p8, it "seems" to ignore some command line options and config file options. for example "-I" .. browsing through the code it looks like this was not completely implemented, there's ground work there though (please correct me if i'm wrong). for example: using ntpd from src: Flg Arg Option-Name Description -4 no ipv4 Force IPv4 DNS name resolution -6 no ipv6 Force IPv6 DNS name resolution - an alternate for ipv4 > ntpd -4 > sockstat | grep ntpd root ntpd 55617 3 dgram -> /var/run/logpriv root ntpd 55617 20 udp4 *:123 *:* root ntpd 55617 21 udp6 *:123 *:* root ntpd 55617 22 udp6 ::1:123 *:* root ntpd 55617 23 udp6 fe80:2::1:123 *:* root ntpd 55617 24 udp4 127.0.0.1:123 *:* root ntpd 55617 25 udp4 192.168.0.153:123 *:* hmmm, it looks like it ignores that flag? if you go fetch a more modern version, it seems to be working > ./ntpd --version ntpd 4.2.7p422@1.2483-o Wed Feb 19 02:43:44 UTC 2014 (5) > ./ntpd -4 > sockstat | grep ntpd root ntpd 55631 3 dgram -> /var/run/logpriv root ntpd 55631 20 udp4 127.0.0.1:123 *:* root ntpd 55631 21 udp4 192.168.0.153:123 *:* root ntpd 55631 23 stream -> ?? root ntpd 55631 24 stream -> ?? however i cannot seem to get --interface or -I to function? > ./ntpd -I lo -4 > sockstat | grep ntpd root ntpd 55996 3 dgram -> /var/run/logpriv root ntpd 55996 20 udp4 *:123 *:* root ntpd 55996 21 udp4 127.0.0.1:123 *:* root ntpd 55996 23 stream -> ?? root ntpd 55996 24 stream -> ?? > ./ntpd -I 127.0.0.1 -4 > sockstat | grep ntpd root ntpd 56032 3 dgram -> /var/run/logpriv root ntpd 56032 20 udp4 *:123 *:* root ntpd 56032 21 udp4 127.0.0.1:123 *:* root ntpd 56032 23 stream -> ?? root ntpd 56032 24 stream -> ?? Hey, one quick hack i found is to kill the 'wildcard' address, in ntpd/ntp_io.c /* * create pseudo-interface with wildcard IPv4 address */ v4wild = ipv4_works; v4wild = NULL; /* kill the wildcard */ then rebuild. if we omit the -I interface it listens to every freakin' thing (well -4 works) > ./ntpd -4 > sockstat | grep ntpd root ntpd 55672 3 dgram -> /var/run/logpriv root ntpd 55672 20 udp4 127.0.0.1:123 *:* root ntpd 55672 21 udp4 192.168.0.153:123 *:* root ntpd 55672 23 stream -> ?? root ntpd 55672 24 stream -> ?? but with -I lo now it's just listening on lo. > ./ntpd -I lo -4 [1161] > sockstat | grep ntpd root ntpd 55666 3 dgram -> /var/run/logpriv root ntpd 55666 20 udp4 127.0.0.1:123 *:* root ntpd 55666 22 stream -> ?? root ntpd 55666 23 stream -> ?? now it's kind-of only listening on ipv4 loooopback i'm using FreeBSD akira.waitman.net 11.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #1 r261643: Sat Feb 8 22:11:05 PST 2014 root@akira.waitman.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/AKIRA amd64 BUT: a) the firewall approach is probably smarter b) maybe a sealed ntpd isn't necessary anyway, why bother with a daemon? other solutions avail. like ntpdate? what do you think? -- Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA 510-830-7975 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 03:09:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDD301D1 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 03:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B558E1E06 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 03:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2546B3AD93 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:09:51 -0800 (PST) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: [SOLVED] Re: Semi-urgent: Disable NTP replies? Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:09:51 -0800 Message-ID: <3975.1392779391@server1.tristatelogic.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 03:09:54 -0000 Thanks much to everybody who responded. All of the responses were enlightening and much appreciated. Obviously, yes, I screwed up big time when I constructed my firewall rules, and I was inadvertantly and unintentionally allowing stuff to come in from the outside on udp/123. That is no longer the case. I now have a rule in place to block it all... and I'm not likely to make THAT mistake again! (Live and learn.) And, ah, yes, Warren, thank you. I shall be joining the security mailing list forthwith. I had been reading recently about the recent dramatic uptick in offensive use of NTP, so I _was_ aware of the problem. I just had no idea, until today, that I was myself part of the problem. I ernestly believed that my existing firewall rules would have blocked me from being an unwitting participant in this kind of nonsense, but whereas I have always striven to be a good neighbor... e.g. making sure that I wasn't running an open mail relay or even an open recursive DNS resolver... I confess that I messed up when it came to properly securing this NTP stuff. But at least it is blocked off now, and shall not be abused by the Evil Ones any more. Meanwhile, in other news... Now that I've been given an excuse to go and look again at all my firewall rules, I've also just been skimming over some things that were logged (by my rules) as being a bit suspicious. I'd like to solicit the assembled intelligencia here for relevant comments on some of this stuff, in particular... 1) I've been told in the past that packet fragmentation is almost always a sign of some sort of nefarious skullduggery, so my FW rules block inbound fragments. But I noticed these log records from just a bit earlier today: Feb 18 18:16:26 segfault kernel: ipfw: 3700 Deny UDP 68.87.68.244 69.62.255.118 in via rl0 (frag 44517:774@1480) Feb 18 18:16:26 segfault kernel: ipfw: 3700 Deny UDP 68.87.68.244 69.62.255.118 in via rl0 (frag 44518:774@1480) Feb 18 18:16:26 segfault kernel: ipfw: 3700 Deny UDP 68.87.68.244 69.62.255.118 in via rl0 (frag 44519:774@1480) Feb 18 18:16:26 segfault kernel: ipfw: 3700 Deny UDP 68.87.68.244 69.62.255.118 in via rl0 (frag 28685:774@1480) Feb 18 18:16:26 segfault kernel: ipfw: 3700 Deny UDP 68.87.68.244 69.62.255.118 in via rl0 (frag 44520:774@1480) Feb 18 18:16:27 segfault kernel: ipfw: 3700 Deny UDP 69.252.250.103 69.62.255.118 in via rl0 (frag 41031:774@1480) Feb 18 18:16:27 segfault kernel: ipfw: 3700 Deny UDP 69.252.250.103 69.62.255.118 in via rl0 (frag 39119:774@1480) Feb 18 18:16:27 segfault kernel: ipfw: 3700 Deny UDP 69.252.250.103 69.62.255.118 in via rl0 (frag 41032:774@1480) Feb 18 18:16:27 segfault kernel: ipfw: 3700 Deny UDP 69.252.250.103 69.62.255.118 in via rl0 (frag 39120:774@1480) Feb 18 18:16:27 segfault kernel: ipfw: 3700 Deny UDP 69.252.250.103 69.62.255.118 in via rl0 (frag 39121:774@1480) Feb 18 18:16:27 segfault kernel: ipfw: 3700 Deny UDP 68.87.85.132 69.62.255.118 in via rl0 (frag 26282:774@1480) Feb 18 18:16:27 segfault kernel: ipfw: 3700 Deny UDP 68.87.85.132 69.62.255.118 in via rl0 (frag 44323:774@1480) Feb 18 18:16:27 segfault kernel: ipfw: 3700 Deny UDP 68.87.85.132 69.62.255.118 in via rl0 (frag 44324:774@1480) Feb 18 18:16:27 segfault kernel: ipfw: 3700 Deny UDP 68.87.85.132 69.62.255.118 in via rl0 (frag 44325:774@1480) Feb 18 18:16:27 segfault kernel: ipfw: 3700 Deny UDP 68.87.85.132 69.62.255.118 in via rl0 (frag 26283:774@1480) Can anybody give me a clue as to why the new Evil Empire (Comcast) might be sending me a short fast burst of fragmented packets from their various DNS servers? If I assume that these aren't actually evil, then I'm inclined to wonder if it would be wise for me now to _unblock_ fragmented packets in my FW rules. (To the best of my knowledge, I was _not_ sending any queries of any kind to Comcast at the time the above occured. Of course it is at least arguably possible that _something_ on my system was doing so on its own...) =-=-=-=-=-=- 2) Who the bleep is this guy, and who told him that he should be trying to poke around people's SNMP ports?? That seems downright abusive and intrusive to me!! Feb 18 18:26:28 segfault kernel: ipfw: 3700 Deny UDP 209.126.230.71:43150 69.62.255.118:161 in via rl0 Hey! I know how to do lookups. So this is "internetsurvey-2.erratasec.com". OK, fine. But I've never heard of these goofballs before, and their home page (http://www.erratasec.com/) does not exactly fill me with a sense of trust and kinship. Far from it! So really, who the hell are these jerks? And why hasn't anybody castrated them yet for going around, willy nilly, poking into people's SNMP ports for info that is surely none of their damn business? Ummm... I guess they have been doing this sort of thing for awhile now... http://www.tenable.com/blog/detecting-errata-securitys-port-22-internet-wide-scan Back in the day, this sort of mass random uninvited poking was grounds for instant termination (either of one's connection or one's self) in a lot of places, but I guess the times they are a changin'. Humph. Welcome to the pucked up future, where packet probes are as thick as the smog over Bejing. Regards, rfg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 04:57:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3CC7BA8; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 04:57:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6246817C0; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 04:57:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (webmail [192.168.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s1J4ucuC012117 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:56:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:56:38 -0600 From: dweimer To: dteske@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ZFS on Hardware RAID controller Organization: dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net In-Reply-To: <0fdd01cf2d29$dca0aba0$95e202e0$@FreeBSD.org> References: <0fdd01cf2d29$dca0aba0$95e202e0$@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <4e4aa28301cedd61cb5693e79a90d0ab@dweimer.net> X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.0-rc Cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd@fongaboo.com, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 04:57:20 -0000 On 02/18/2014 10:20 pm, dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: freebsd@fongaboo.com [mailto:freebsd@fongaboo.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:58 PM >> To: questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: ZFS on Hardware RAID controller >> >> >> I was speaking to someone else about this today, and it eventually >> became >> apparent that we were getting into a sort-of > Abbott-and-Costello-Who's-on-First >> confusion... because apparently people can mean different things when >> they >> use the term 'JBOD'. >> >> What I have always meant when I say 'JBOD' is a (not really) RAID mode > that >> simply concatenates the drives into one volume in a serial fashion, >> ie. >> 'spanning'. Most RAID controllers and RAID-enabled NAS units that I >> have >> interacted with in my life have offered this mode and referred to it >> as > 'JBOD'. >> > > This is not entirely correct. JBOD and RAID-SPAN are two different > things. > Your > controller either supports one, or both (aside a host of other options, > such > as > RAID-1, RAID-10; and if often RAID-5, maybe RAID-6). JBOD, stands for "just a bunch of disks", its defined as one or more disks spanned together or concatenated in a linear fashion. > > RAID-SPAN is RAID-0. Which is as you describe "simply concatenates the > drives > into one volume in a serial fashion, ie. 'spanning'." Raid-0 is a stripe, its splits the data evenly across the disks, instead of spanning them. > > JBOD on the other hand stands for "Just a Bunch of Disks" and is not > the > same > as "concatenating the disks" but rather allows your controller to throw > the > drives at the Operating System with the attitude of "here, you do it > then." > > We can actually therefore call ZFS's RAID capabilities, "software > RAID". > However, it's a very _good_ software RAID that breaks the old adage > that > says "hardware RAID is faster than software RAID." JBOD has been generally used as in putting just one disk through to the O/S, and Spanning is generally used to describe multiple disks concatenated linearly however its definition is interchangeable. FWIW, if the raid controller doesn't have a JBOD/SPAN option, sometimes you can define a single disk Raid-0 instead, if there is only one drive its functionally equivalent. Keep in mind though that often the O/S will see a Raid controller LUN device, which likely wont except SMART commands, and might not display correct sector size etc. All depends on the Raid controller, so make sure you correctly define partitions to match the drives or you may get sub-par performance. > > To highlight the difference of "JBOD" versus "spanning" (aka RAID-0; > aka > RAID- > SPAN), take the following use-case example: > > 1. You take 12 drives and apply spanning logic on the controller > > 2. You take a controller and put it into JBOD mode > > In scenario one (1), your OS still sees a single drive. > In scenario two (2), your OS sees all twelve drives. > > Just wanted to clarify that putting a controller into JBOD-mode is not > to be > confused with RAID-0 or spanning (which would still be utilizing the > controller's > software; the best benefit of ZFS comes from letting it have direct > access > to > each/every disk). > >> In this kind of mode, the motherboard and the OS still thinks it sees >> only > a >> single volume. So now I am gathering that this is also not ideal for >> ZFS, > since it >> would still not be aware of multiple physical volumes and be unable to > optimize >> accordingly. >> >> I'm learning for the first time that sometimes 'JBOD' can also refer >> to > each >> individual drive being mounted separately at least as far as the > controller and >> the motherboard is concerned. >> >> I just want to confirm 100% that this is how you are recommending >> multiple >> drives be configured for ZFS. Because when I started the thread I was > thinking >> of JBOD as 'spanning'. >> > > Correct; JBOD never means span (which is RAID-0). Rather, JBOD usually > means > using non-RAID capable hardware with a RAID-capable operating system > (e.g., > using ZFS). We are again in-essence talking about using software RAID > to > create > a software pool. > > I don't want to go drawing similarities to many other software RAID > solutions, > because ZFS is truly in a class its own. But if you're familiar with > the > concepts > of setting up a software RAID (mdadm, vinum, graid*, etc.) then ZFS > should > be > more familiar. That's not to say that you need to know these things to > use > ZFS > (in practice, ZFS has predictable commands with predictable syntax) but > if > you > have ever created a software RAID you will be in unique position to > better > understand the JBOD mentality. > > So in transitioning to a test platform that uses "JBOD" you essentially > have > two > choices that look attractive... > > + Ditch the RAID card and use a standard adapter for connecting your > drives > > + Find a way to change your RAID controller to export all the disks > NB: This may involve using a LSI provided utility or flashing a QLogic > card > NB: If you give us your exact card info, someone may have information > on how > to transition it into JBOD mode for ZFS > > + Create a bunch of single-disk RAID-0 arrays (12 disks? 12x > single-disk > SPAN > or RAID-0 arrays; producing 12x single LUNs for use in ZFS). > > Hope this gives some ideas. > -- > Devin > >> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014, Eitan Adler wrote: >> >> > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:27 PM, wrote: >> >> >> >> When we spoke, you noted that when installing ZFS on multiple disks >> >> connected to a hardware RAID controller, it is best to config it to > JBOD. >> > >> > There are a few reasons for this. >> > (a) Hardware RAID serves as a single point of failure: if the >> > contoller dies you have neither disk >> > (b) As Andrew noted , using hardware RAID means that ZFS won't be able >> > to tell which disk is which. The ZFS management tools won't work as >> > expected (they will show only one disk). >> > (c) Since ZFS implements RAID itself it can use knowledge about the >> > physical disks for better performance >> > >> > Also see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#ZFS_and_hardware_RAID >> > >> >> I tried to explain this to a colleague, but they were skeptical. >> >> Would you (or anyone) be willing to give me a one or two line >> >> sales-pitch on >> > >> > "ZFS does RAID better than the controller." >> > >> >> why one >> >> should abandon traditional notions of RAID performance in favor of >> >> allowing ZFS to do disk management? >> > >> > The goal isn't to give up on RAID but move its implementation to ZFS. >> > >> > -- >> > Eitan Adler >> > Source, Ports, Doc committer >> > Bugmeister, Ports Security teams >> > _______________________________________________ >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _____________ > The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or > confidential. 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From: Michael Sierchio To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 05:10:22 -0000 One of the problems with UDP, and why NTP amplification attacks are so attractive, is that it is trivial to spoof the source address - you can't really know, without some higher-level protocol, where the initial packet came from. - M From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 05:25:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50E4625C for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 05:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yk0-x22c.google.com (mail-yk0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0546519BD for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 05:25:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yk0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 200so36084279ykr.3 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:25:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=K6ZpUEIl19jderG+0rBq/n9eC9SeapDoSLPIsi+LNIM=; b=xbjiWfj+9VOO7MQ7yDVA1NXMjujJB9gpoyTDd6CIfpfcXtH71stiItkJN++uW4XcL9 NXKAfI6TAWJpofc9JDqiNoeHaIetscI3ZLIvxiBt3YEMKFbIpLKQ89/4JqvqsgROV5iB DKDBP4Jf+c44wNguKmoCE0PGB0KoDBC25L8nCSUXWjCtOwsc+9OA1hQz2O1L7Zct0jIm rpxgsdsT2Bt/BZby8L1/EjuHfjJu3eLK1CkPuJ4dZhCJbth0TxP2bpYqn+bNqEponWJZ zkRFsDC72OIEkAbBY1qqDc3mCGQzdF/T6KlSz5N0qrwOmfUZYNZDENFvMcchQlLPdkIN gPrQ== X-Received: by 10.236.35.17 with SMTP id t17mr2301898yha.138.1392787529173; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:25:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.76] (75-63-29-182.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. [75.63.29.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 57sm66455114yhl.4.2014.02.18.21.25.28 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:25:28 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) Subject: Re: ZFS on Hardware RAID controller From: aurfalien In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:25:26 -0800 Message-Id: <77EB3C34-7CBF-460C-9173-F5CE3A96EAA6@gmail.com> References: To: freebsd@fongaboo.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 05:25:30 -0000 Well, I think the best thing is to config a ZFS server for yourself. Its one thing to read about it, but another to do it and you would most = certainly be in a better position to sell ZFS once you know how it works = through practice. The web is rich with ZFS info. I=92m speaking for personal experience. - aurf "Janitorial Services" On Feb 18, 2014, at 7:58 PM, freebsd@fongaboo.com wrote: >=20 > I was speaking to someone else about this today, and it eventually = became apparent that we were getting into a sort-of = Abbott-and-Costello-Who's-on-First confusion... because apparently = people can mean different things when they use the term 'JBOD'. >=20 > What I have always meant when I say 'JBOD' is a (not really) RAID mode = that simply concatenates the drives into one volume in a serial fashion, = ie. 'spanning'. Most RAID controllers and RAID-enabled NAS units that I = have interacted with in my life have offered this mode and referred to = it as 'JBOD'. >=20 > In this kind of mode, the motherboard and the OS still thinks it sees = only a single volume. So now I am gathering that this is also not ideal = for ZFS, since it would still not be aware of multiple physical volumes = and be unable to optimize accordingly. >=20 > I'm learning for the first time that sometimes 'JBOD' can also refer = to each individual drive being mounted separately at least as far as the = controller and the motherboard is concerned. >=20 > I just want to confirm 100% that this is how you are recommending = multiple drives be configured for ZFS. Because when I started the thread = I was thinking of JBOD as 'spanning'. >=20 >=20 > FONG >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Tue, 18 Feb 2014, Eitan Adler wrote: >=20 >> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:27 PM, wrote: >>>=20 >>> When we spoke, you noted that when installing ZFS on multiple disks >>> connected to a hardware RAID controller, it is best to config it to = JBOD. >>=20 >> There are a few reasons for this. >> (a) Hardware RAID serves as a single point of failure: if the >> contoller dies you have neither disk >> (b) As Andrew noted , using hardware RAID means that ZFS won't be = able >> to tell which disk is which. The ZFS management tools won't work as >> expected (they will show only one disk). >> (c) Since ZFS implements RAID itself it can use knowledge about the >> physical disks for better performance >>=20 >> Also see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#ZFS_and_hardware_RAID >>=20 >>> I tried to explain this to a colleague, but they were skeptical. = Would you >>> (or anyone) be willing to give me a one or two line sales-pitch on >>=20 >> "ZFS does RAID better than the controller." >>=20 >>> why one >>> should abandon traditional notions of RAID performance in favor of = allowing >>> ZFS to do disk management? >>=20 >> The goal isn't to give up on RAID but move its implementation to ZFS. >>=20 >> --=20 >> Eitan Adler >> Source, Ports, Doc committer >> Bugmeister, Ports Security teams >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 05:46:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EA5096E; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 05:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DA3F1B2C; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 05:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.192]) by ltcfislmsgpa07.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s1J5iGg3018343 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:44:17 -0600 Received: from THEMADHATTER (10.242.181.54) by smarthost.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.192) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.174.1; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:44:15 -0600 From: Sender: Devin Teske To: References: <0fdd01cf2d29$dca0aba0$95e202e0$@FreeBSD.org> <4e4aa28301cedd61cb5693e79a90d0ab@dweimer.net> <0fdf01cf2d34$65d9de00$318d9a00$@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <0fdf01cf2d34$65d9de00$318d9a00$@FreeBSD.org> Subject: RE: ZFS on Hardware RAID controller Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:43:39 -0800 Message-ID: <0fe101cf2d35$8b988960$a2c99c20$@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQLZ7+7/ieFjnRxrw7xfyVSgmKX96wLfKSMrAmxEjEMCYeNcAwLaiwfuAoMsxjQB418jsAKoN686mBnV+GA= Content-Language: en-us X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87, 1.0.14, 0.0.0000 definitions=2014-02-19_01:2014-02-18,2014-02-19,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: dteske@FreeBSD.org, questions@freebsd.org, freebsd@fongaboo.com, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 05:46:35 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: dteske@FreeBSD.org [mailto:dteske@FreeBSD.org] > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:35 PM > To: dweimer@dweimer.net; dteske@freebsd.org > Cc: freebsd@fongaboo.com; questions@freebsd.org; owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org; daver@vicor.com > Subject: RE: ZFS on Hardware RAID controller > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dweimer [mailto:dweimer@dweimer.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 8:57 PM > > To: dteske@freebsd.org > > Cc: freebsd@fongaboo.com; questions@freebsd.org; owner-freebsd- > > questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: RE: ZFS on Hardware RAID controller > > > > On 02/18/2014 10:20 pm, dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: freebsd@fongaboo.com [mailto:freebsd@fongaboo.com] > > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:58 PM > > >> To: questions@freebsd.org > > >> Subject: Re: ZFS on Hardware RAID controller > > >> > > >> > > >> I was speaking to someone else about this today, and it eventually > > >> became apparent that we were getting into a sort-of > > > Abbott-and-Costello-Who's-on-First > > >> confusion... because apparently people can mean different things > > >> when they use the term 'JBOD'. > > >> > > >> What I have always meant when I say 'JBOD' is a (not really) RAID > > >> mode > > > that > > >> simply concatenates the drives into one volume in a serial fashion, > > >> ie. > > >> 'spanning'. Most RAID controllers and RAID-enabled NAS units that I > > >> have interacted with in my life have offered this mode and referred > > >> to it as > > > 'JBOD'. > > >> > > > > > > This is not entirely correct. JBOD and RAID-SPAN are two different > > > things. > > > Your > > > controller either supports one, or both (aside a host of other > > > options, such as RAID-1, RAID-10; and if often RAID-5, maybe RAID-6). > > > > JBOD, stands for "just a bunch of disks", > [Devin Teske] > > Correct, I stated as much. > > its defined as one or more disks > > spanned together or concatenated in a linear fashion. > > > [Devin Teske] > > I beg to differ. Google begs to differ. Type in "JBOD definition" to Google > and you get... > > A collection of hard disks that aren't configured according to RAID; A hard > disk enclosure for several disks, especially one lacking a RAID controller. > > I don't know where you got the so-called definition of "spanned together..." > which directly contradicts JBOD. > > > > > > > RAID-SPAN is RAID-0. Which is as you describe "simply concatenates the > > > drives into one volume in a serial fashion, ie. 'spanning'." > > > > Raid-0 is a stripe, its splits the data evenly across the disks, instead > of spanning > > them. > > > [Devin Teske] > > How are you classifying "spanning" as something different than RAID-0? > > I advise you that some RAID controllers call RAID-0 "SPAN" and RAID-1 > "MIRROR". > If you've not personally seen this, I offer it as evidence that they are one > and the > same. On a more technical note, "span" could technically be used for any > topology > that causes capacity to increase as you add more disks (but I inform you, I > have > _never_ seen any RAID controller call any parity-balanced topology; e.g., > RAID-5; > a "SPAN" but rather they call it a RAID-5; only RAID-1 has ever been called > SPAN). [Devin Teske] Minor typo in that last bit... "only RAID-0 has ever been called SPAN" > > I'm somewhat mystified by your above statement that somehow implies that > RAID-0 is not a spanned topology. > > > > > > > > JBOD on the other hand stands for "Just a Bunch of Disks" and is not > > > the same as "concatenating the disks" but rather allows your > > > controller to throw the drives at the Operating System with the > > > attitude of "here, you do it then." > > > > > > We can actually therefore call ZFS's RAID capabilities, "software > > > RAID". > > > However, it's a very _good_ software RAID that breaks the old adage > > > that says "hardware RAID is faster than software RAID." > > > > JBOD has been generally used as in putting just one disk through to the > O/S, > > and Spanning is generally used to describe multiple disks concatenated > linearly > > however its definition is interchangeable. > > > [Devin Teske] > > No sir, the definitions of JBOD versus SPAN are never interchangeable. I'm > not > here to pick a fight or argue, but you're misinformed. > > > > FWIW, if the raid controller doesn't have a JBOD/SPAN option, > [Devin Teske] > > I repeat that JBOD and SPAN are not the same thing. > > > sometimes you > > can define a single disk Raid-0 instead, > [Devin Teske] > > This would be a SPAN of 1 disk (counter-intuitive as this may sound). Again, > it > all depends on what your controller calls it -- be it 3ware (where I've seen > it) > or something else. > > > if there is only one drive its functionally > > equivalent. Keep in mind though that often the O/S will see a Raid > controller > > LUN device, which likely wont except SMART commands, and might not > display > > correct sector size etc. All depends on the Raid controller, so make sure > you > > correctly define partitions to match the drives or you may get sub-par > > performance. > > > [Devin Teske] > > That much is true. > -- > Devin > > > > > > > To highlight the difference of "JBOD" versus "spanning" (aka RAID-0; > > > aka > > > RAID- > > > SPAN), take the following use-case example: > > > > > > 1. You take 12 drives and apply spanning logic on the controller > > > > > > 2. You take a controller and put it into JBOD mode > > > > > > In scenario one (1), your OS still sees a single drive. > > > In scenario two (2), your OS sees all twelve drives. > > > > > > Just wanted to clarify that putting a controller into JBOD-mode is not > > > to be confused with RAID-0 or spanning (which would still be utilizing > > > the controller's software; the best benefit of ZFS comes from letting > > > it have direct access to each/every disk). > > > > > >> In this kind of mode, the motherboard and the OS still thinks it sees > > >> only > > > a > > >> single volume. So now I am gathering that this is also not ideal for > > >> ZFS, > > > since it > > >> would still not be aware of multiple physical volumes and be unable > > >> to > > > optimize > > >> accordingly. > > >> > > >> I'm learning for the first time that sometimes 'JBOD' can also refer > > >> to > > > each > > >> individual drive being mounted separately at least as far as the > > > controller and > > >> the motherboard is concerned. > > >> > > >> I just want to confirm 100% that this is how you are recommending > > >> multiple drives be configured for ZFS. Because when I started the > > >> thread I was > > > thinking > > >> of JBOD as 'spanning'. > > >> > > > > > > Correct; JBOD never means span (which is RAID-0). Rather, JBOD usually > > > means using non-RAID capable hardware with a RAID-capable operating > > > system (e.g., using ZFS). We are again in-essence talking about using > > > software RAID to create a software pool. > > > > > > I don't want to go drawing similarities to many other software RAID > > > solutions, because ZFS is truly in a class its own. But if you're > > > familiar with the concepts of setting up a software RAID (mdadm, > > > vinum, graid*, etc.) then ZFS should be more familiar. That's not to > > > say that you need to know these things to use ZFS (in practice, ZFS > > > has predictable commands with predictable syntax) but if you have ever > > > created a software RAID you will be in unique position to better > > > understand the JBOD mentality. > > > > > > So in transitioning to a test platform that uses "JBOD" you > > > essentially have two choices that look attractive... > > > > > > + Ditch the RAID card and use a standard adapter for connecting your > > > drives > > > > > > + Find a way to change your RAID controller to export all the disks > > > NB: This may involve using a LSI provided utility or flashing a QLogic > > > card > > > NB: If you give us your exact card info, someone may have information > > > on how to transition it into JBOD mode for ZFS > > > > > > + Create a bunch of single-disk RAID-0 arrays (12 disks? 12x > > > single-disk > > > SPAN > > > or RAID-0 arrays; producing 12x single LUNs for use in ZFS). > > > > > > Hope this gives some ideas. > > > -- > > > Devin > > > > > >> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014, Eitan Adler wrote: > > >> > > >> > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:27 PM, wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> When we spoke, you noted that when installing ZFS on multiple > > >> >> disks connected to a hardware RAID controller, it is best to > > >> >> config it to > > > JBOD. > > >> > > > >> > There are a few reasons for this. > > >> > (a) Hardware RAID serves as a single point of failure: if the > > >> > contoller dies you have neither disk > > >> > (b) As Andrew noted , using hardware RAID means that ZFS won't be > > >> > able to tell which disk is which. The ZFS management tools won't > > >> > work as expected (they will show only one disk). > > >> > (c) Since ZFS implements RAID itself it can use knowledge about the > > >> > physical disks for better performance > > >> > > > >> > Also see: > > >> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://en.wikipedia.org > > >> > > > > /wiki/ZFS%23ZFS_and_hardware_RAID&k=%2FbkpAUdJWZuiTILCq%2FFnQg%3D > > %3 > > >> > > > > D%0A&r=Mrjs6vR4%2Faj2Ns9%2FssHJjg%3D%3D%0A&m=rrGF66zgDe1thlbKNL > > 85L2 > > >> > > > > J80eLI6wBr0AEIltTFLaM%3D%0A&s=4799b4ef2dd7cc6060a9545178e315329de > > 3a > > >> > 8909141aff0d90992798c0379ee > > >> > > > >> >> I tried to explain this to a colleague, but they were skeptical. > > >> >> Would you (or anyone) be willing to give me a one or two line > > >> >> sales-pitch on > > >> > > > >> > "ZFS does RAID better than the controller." > > >> > > > >> >> why one > > >> >> should abandon traditional notions of RAID performance in favor of > > >> >> allowing ZFS to do disk management? > > >> > > > >> > The goal isn't to give up on RAID but move its implementation to ZFS. > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > Eitan Adler > > >> > Source, Ports, Doc committer > > >> > Bugmeister, Ports Security teams > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > >> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://lists.freebsd.org > > >> > /mailman/listinfo/freebsd- > > questions&k=%2FbkpAUdJWZuiTILCq%2FFnQg%3D > > >> > > > > %3D%0A&r=Mrjs6vR4%2Faj2Ns9%2FssHJjg%3D%3D%0A&m=rrGF66zgDe1thlbK > > NL85 > > >> > > > > L2J80eLI6wBr0AEIltTFLaM%3D%0A&s=6a7f3cd494e1bb3cfbdaf4ab0797f7fc97e > > >> > da2a1f02e097d7c6924792dc8fc7d To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > >> > "freebsd-questions- > > >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://lists.freebsd.org/m > > >> ailman/listinfo/freebsd- > > questions&k=%2FbkpAUdJWZuiTILCq%2FFnQg%3D%3D% > > >> > > > 0A&r=Mrjs6vR4%2Faj2Ns9%2FssHJjg%3D%3D%0A&m=rrGF66zgDe1thlbKNL85L > > 2J80e > > >> > > > LI6wBr0AEIltTFLaM%3D%0A&s=6a7f3cd494e1bb3cfbdaf4ab0797f7fc97eda2a1f > > 02 > > >> e097d7c6924792dc8fc7d > > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > _____________ > > > The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or > > > confidential. 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From: Kurt Buff To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 06:24:02 -0000 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > > Thanks much to everybody who responded. All of the responses were > enlightening and much appreciated. > > Obviously, yes, I screwed up big time when I constructed my firewall > rules, and I was inadvertantly and unintentionally allowing stuff to > come in from the outside on udp/123. > > That is no longer the case. I now have a rule in place to block it > all... and I'm not likely to make THAT mistake again! (Live and > learn.) This is the important lesson - learning. Don't worry about it, you fixed it - many of us got caught out by it, even those who, like me, preach "default deny". So, in that vein, this notice: TA14-017A: UDP-based Amplification Attacks https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/TA14-017A Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 09:02:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 217368E8 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 09:02:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9BC7F1C3B for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 09:02:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s1J91rGi040117; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 09:01:54 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <53047301.4050201@qeng-ho.org> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 09:01:53 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Darren Pilgrim , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Reverse DNS question References: <20140218180620.0807880cf0dd661482e394b9@3dresearch.com> <5303F01C.3030205@bluerosetech.com> In-Reply-To: <5303F01C.3030205@bluerosetech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 09:02:07 -0000 On 18/02/2014 23:43, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > On 2/18/2014 3:06 PM, Janos Dohanics wrote: >> My Postfix logs show entries like this: >> >> Feb 18 08:35:13 barrida postfix/smtpd[86649]: connect from >> unknown[207.238.171.17] >> Feb 18 08:35:13 barrida postfix/smtpd[86705]: connect from >> spam2.continental-realestate.com[207.238.171.17] >> > [...] >> # host 207.238.171.17 >> 17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer >> mail1.continental-realestate.com. >> 17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer >> mail.continental-realestate.com. >> 17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer >> spam2.continental-realestate.com. > >> 1. Other than network congestion, what might cause this recurring name >> resolution failure? > > There are a couple of issues with the above: > > 1. More than one PTR record for a given IP address is a > misconfiguration. It is supported and there is no RFC saying you must > not have more than one, but in practice most software will only look for > one and thus only take the first PTR RR returned from the query. Actually RFC 2181 section 10.2 pretty much says multiple PTRs should be supported, but I've never met any software that allows for it, and my ISP, who are normally very good about standards, only supports one PTR per IP address. > 2. mail1 and mail do not resolve to 207.238.171.17, so you only have > forward-confirmed reverse DNS (FCRDNS) for spam2. Postfix will use the > hostname of "unknown" for anything that does not have FCRDNS. Slightly changing the topic, does anyone have any idea how IPv6 is going to affect use of RDNS for spam prevention? Given that machines will often have multiple addresses, do we have to bolt down our MTAs to using specific publicly visible addresses, or is RDNS just going to get dropped. I don't have an IPv6 system to play with yet. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 09:45:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDC1E40A for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 09:45:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from the-host.seacom.mu (ge-0.ln-01-mba.ke.seacomnet.com [41.87.100.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01FF7113A for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 09:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=the-host.localnet) by the-host.seacom.mu with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WG3JM-0004Jv-No; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 11:19:24 +0200 From: Mark Tinka Organization: SEACOM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reverse DNS question Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 11:19:02 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.6 (Linux/2.6.37.6-24-desktop; KDE/4.6.0; i686; ; ) References: <20140218180620.0807880cf0dd661482e394b9@3dresearch.com> <5303F01C.3030205@bluerosetech.com> <53047301.4050201@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: <53047301.4050201@qeng-ho.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2077187.cAQqAD4e0g"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201402191119.02667.mark.tinka@seacom.mu> Cc: Arthur Chance , Darren Pilgrim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: mark.tinka@seacom.mu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 09:45:15 -0000 --nextPart2077187.cAQqAD4e0g Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:01:53 AM Arthur Chance=20 wrote: > Slightly changing the topic, does anyone have any idea > how IPv6 is going to affect use of RDNS for spam > prevention? Given that machines will often have multiple > addresses, do we have to bolt down our MTAs to using > specific publicly visible addresses, or is RDNS just > going to get dropped. I don't have an IPv6 system to > play with yet. =46rom a spam prevention perspective, nothing changes,=20 operationally. My expectation is that mail server operators will require=20 similar checks in IPv6. Mark. --nextPart2077187.cAQqAD4e0g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJTBHcGAAoJEGcZuYTeKm+GhUMP/jqFhPCQNljwy6VqOEmuHHhY OxKiD5rTmvByJvcA3K0Ldtrs3ola9yB87EoswOUmA5E/kaXboVQGAemeZd5vzzVY 1rsF2RNhfC4JiFey9+38Rc1CBXzVEGFeKuhGjAMcJWQ86eTZk8PCfSVaRpqbqK66 LHduh67Bg+oXIGZIFw/V4vbaMTuqx6uCLJZMBPSGrdLKSeu1tWXIc+x9lDn3rOGR lsAAcFcu45/3iSeSjpYbNGMVlmZjXHdEuu0o5awIgEHY0rK2k7pNOB4i/kgEmoRF 0tWAMESt+4Khc6tMNh3Cp7GHBdxvu3MrcQKAmUVnON3+bSTvpQP+1RtoDelF8jhi iW4kFytEIs30zcTXBirfsuYubx1/Pse8E51vXQyYHZPQpOKBh4Rcez8MVJs7hUC2 dOHXc0S3RX6wTW/rmMfP+wFf6To8T7f/hhDmd3cDkODAauttFO4Rzwj8IfHd8nbm bP6LxaFdhL0ItWr6QiAlR5l9SY4C4cjxaUjTGVxLSGMoZUO18Am46m/GVeSP0BBN iVUzQk6qHfL5QmNB1cJdj4/JHTAvQoRtna6jwshjDPm5yWf1Qi6MSnN3BnyNgfaY 9Tk8ex/l/k7sVz3hXlIzP+tT6yyp4x5kqT3I/EUswK9wm7+jhLJGAApigLco0GL6 DrVlk/LboF/pYibjHtna =fFhZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2077187.cAQqAD4e0g-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 11:18:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56E6FBD4 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 11:18:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from luigi.brtsvcs.net (luigi.brtsvcs.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:1000:1f00::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 33242197F for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 11:18:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (c-76-115-19-22.hsd1.or.comcast.net [76.115.19.22]) by luigi.brtsvcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B55F42D4FD4; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 03:18:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2601:7:880:bd0:4dc6:fe9a:fceb:5eeb] (unknown [IPv6:2601:7:880:bd0:4dc6:fe9a:fceb:5eeb]) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 16DC03CD; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 03:18:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5304930A.6080004@bluerosetech.com> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 03:18:34 -0800 From: Darren Pilgrim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mark.tinka@seacom.mu, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reverse DNS question References: <20140218180620.0807880cf0dd661482e394b9@3dresearch.com> <5303F01C.3030205@bluerosetech.com> <53047301.4050201@qeng-ho.org> <201402191119.02667.mark.tinka@seacom.mu> In-Reply-To: <201402191119.02667.mark.tinka@seacom.mu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Arthur Chance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 11:18:34 -0000 On 2/19/2014 1:19 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:01:53 AM Arthur Chance > wrote: > >> Slightly changing the topic, does anyone have any idea >> how IPv6 is going to affect use of RDNS for spam >> prevention? Given that machines will often have multiple >> addresses, do we have to bolt down our MTAs to using >> specific publicly visible addresses, or is RDNS just >> going to get dropped. I don't have an IPv6 system to >> play with yet. > > From a spam prevention perspective, nothing changes, > operationally. > > My expectation is that mail server operators will require > similar checks in IPv6. Google has made IPv6 RDNS effectively mandatory for communicating with gmail servers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 12:02:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E526280 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0D131DBE for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:02:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s1JC2gSu040408; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:02:44 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <53049D62.8030903@qeng-ho.org> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:02:42 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Darren Pilgrim , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reverse DNS question References: <20140218180620.0807880cf0dd661482e394b9@3dresearch.com> <5303F01C.3030205@bluerosetech.com> <53047301.4050201@qeng-ho.org> <201402191119.02667.mark.tinka@seacom.mu> <5304930A.6080004@bluerosetech.com> In-Reply-To: <5304930A.6080004@bluerosetech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:02:49 -0000 On 19/02/2014 11:18, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > On 2/19/2014 1:19 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: >> On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:01:53 AM Arthur Chance >> wrote: >> >>> Slightly changing the topic, does anyone have any idea >>> how IPv6 is going to affect use of RDNS for spam >>> prevention? Given that machines will often have multiple >>> addresses, do we have to bolt down our MTAs to using >>> specific publicly visible addresses, or is RDNS just >>> going to get dropped. I don't have an IPv6 system to >>> play with yet. >> >> From a spam prevention perspective, nothing changes, >> operationally. >> >> My expectation is that mail server operators will require >> similar checks in IPv6. > > Google has made IPv6 RDNS effectively mandatory for communicating with > gmail servers. Thank you. That was the sort of information I was after. So we will have to tell our MTAs to use specific addresses as opposed to wildcard binding. 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Unibe.ch = = =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 15:54:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46E04314 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 15:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpb.telissant.net (smtpb.telissant.net [199.233.230.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1806C158B for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 15:54:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from barrida.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtpb.telissant.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928D027339; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:54:07 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at telissant.net Received: from smtpb.telissant.net ([127.0.0.1]) by barrida.3dresearch.com (barrida.3dresearch.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eyVv9wc7d5IY; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:53:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from doncurzio.3dresearch.com (pool-71-112-5-200.pitbpa.east.verizon.net [71.112.5.200]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtpb.telissant.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B40F8273A4; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:53:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from doncurzio.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by doncurzio.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 046E0A1E2F; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:53:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:53:42 -0500 From: Janos Dohanics To: Darren Pilgrim Subject: Re: Reverse DNS question Message-Id: <20140219105342.f6b96b91e33a8d4bb2e8a3fb@3dresearch.com> In-Reply-To: <5303F01C.3030205@bluerosetech.com> References: <20140218180620.0807880cf0dd661482e394b9@3dresearch.com> <5303F01C.3030205@bluerosetech.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 15:54:11 -0000 On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:43:24 -0800 Darren Pilgrim wrote: > On 2/18/2014 3:06 PM, Janos Dohanics wrote: > > My Postfix logs show entries like this: > > > > Feb 18 08:35:13 barrida postfix/smtpd[86649]: connect from unknown > > [207.238.171.17] Feb 18 08:35:13 barrida postfix/smtpd[86705]: > > connect from spam2.continental-realestate.com[207.238.171.17] > > > [...] > > # host 207.238.171.17 > > 17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer > > mail1.continental-realestate.com. 17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa > > domain name pointer mail.continental-realestate.com. > > 17.171.238.207.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer > > spam2.continental-realestate.com. > > > 1. Other than network congestion, what might cause this recurring > > name resolution failure? > > There are a couple of issues with the above: > > 1. More than one PTR record for a given IP address is a > misconfiguration. It is supported and there is no RFC saying you > must not have more than one, but in practice most software will only > look for one and thus only take the first PTR RR returned from the > query. So, the 3 names are returned in a random order, and if the first name returned does not resolve at all, or does not resolve to the smtpd client's IP address, Postfix will log it "unknown"? -- Janos Dohanics From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 16:11:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1171A89A for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 16:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from the-host.seacom.mu (ge-0.ln-01-mba.ke.seacomnet.com [41.87.100.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A01C4173C for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 16:11:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=the-host.localnet) by the-host.seacom.mu with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WG9jg-0005U6-A6; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 18:11:00 +0200 From: Mark Tinka Organization: SEACOM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reverse DNS question Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 18:10:51 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.6 (Linux/2.6.37.6-24-desktop; KDE/4.6.0; i686; ; ) References: <20140218180620.0807880cf0dd661482e394b9@3dresearch.com> <5304930A.6080004@bluerosetech.com> <53049D62.8030903@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: <53049D62.8030903@qeng-ho.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart21767476.emWkQkalsl"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201402191810.51521.mark.tinka@seacom.mu> Cc: Arthur Chance , Darren Pilgrim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: mark.tinka@seacom.mu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 16:11:23 -0000 --nextPart21767476.emWkQkalsl Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 02:02:42 PM Arthur Chance=20 wrote: > Thank you. That was the sort of information I was after. > So we will have to tell our MTAs to use specific > addresses as opposed to wildcard binding. Whatever you did in IPv4, you do in IPv6. Just with=20 different numbers. As the saying goes, "96 more bits, no magic". 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[50.200.12.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pn6sm2659852igb.4.2014.02.19.08.47.33 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 19 Feb 2014 08:47:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5304E023.104@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:47:31 -0600 From: Noel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reverse DNS question References: <20140218180620.0807880cf0dd661482e394b9@3dresearch.com> <5303F01C.3030205@bluerosetech.com> <20140219105342.f6b96b91e33a8d4bb2e8a3fb@3dresearch.com> In-Reply-To: <20140219105342.f6b96b91e33a8d4bb2e8a3fb@3dresearch.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 16:47:35 -0000 On 2/19/2014 9:53 AM, Janos Dohanics wrote: > So, the 3 names are returned in a random order, and if the first > name returned does not resolve at all, or does not resolve to the > smtpd client's IP address, Postfix will log it "unknown"? Correct. -- Noel Jones From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 17:06:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3EF2D80B for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 17:06:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpb.telissant.net (smtpb.telissant.net [199.233.230.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD461CA7 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 17:06:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from barrida.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtpb.telissant.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4184B27389; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:06:48 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at telissant.net Received: from smtpb.telissant.net ([127.0.0.1]) by barrida.3dresearch.com (barrida.3dresearch.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JtnUlGtjjmM7; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:06:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from doncurzio.3dresearch.com (pool-71-112-5-200.pitbpa.east.verizon.net [71.112.5.200]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtpb.telissant.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4496327383; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:06:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from doncurzio.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by doncurzio.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A258EA1E2F; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:06:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:06:28 -0500 From: Janos Dohanics To: Noel Subject: Re: Reverse DNS question Message-Id: <20140219120628.a4dbce813c045a698740e3ab@3dresearch.com> In-Reply-To: <5304E023.104@gmail.com> References: <20140218180620.0807880cf0dd661482e394b9@3dresearch.com> <5303F01C.3030205@bluerosetech.com> <20140219105342.f6b96b91e33a8d4bb2e8a3fb@3dresearch.com> <5304E023.104@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 17:06:49 -0000 On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:47:31 -0600 Noel wrote: > On 2/19/2014 9:53 AM, Janos Dohanics wrote: > > So, the 3 names are returned in a random order, and if the first > > name returned does not resolve at all, or does not resolve to the > > smtpd client's IP address, Postfix will log it "unknown"? > > Correct. > > > -- Noel Jones Thank you all for replying. -- Janos Dohanics From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 18:59:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 475AC647 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 18:59:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x234.google.com (mail-wg0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D27661797 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 18:59:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id b13so682933wgh.7 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:59:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7EHeOxlPUXMXG22gAyD4IeOUHZd0yBnzY9Wbt/U/vrQ=; b=DxBa1U988rIZH8k0+UcMUnoLlOFoVx9XlGWBwM8QP/KYRgP38aYSbc4uyVz9PE/esY Jj6K31eVntd2kNOAiiQOcMnp4Y1JsXcZRKG/58Qx3+ntPRekfm10ZjjCWe2cemHOivCs FQxzm1wfy62fTf3N+BIHFv8JF10aNi5k5/m1rHhJoaNMIVbADv+ojfZBQMTRIg5pz8u1 ksa8AqUi534q2ejN34BpFSfpH+XCoyxQYf7C2ocRgNrIgtOYH+pc/xVKbb5S3KIOVPJ6 WC6ATAdPc6z+xBJUYC/r9+At45IlYtSviA9ZRIvdM0L1/MIxVekjsYwC6llwSjs4SdD0 ZnXw== X-Received: by 10.181.13.11 with SMTP id eu11mr3077046wid.30.1392836392202; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:59:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (247.66.91.91.rev.sfr.net. [91.91.66.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id t5sm2634400wjw.15.2014.02.19.10.59.51 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:59:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5304FF16.7060002@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:59:34 +0100 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD quest Subject: firefox and thunderbird randomly segfault Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 18:59:54 -0000 Hello dear, After an update, firefox and thunderbird randomly segfault at any time. It a bit annoying and I can't find the cause : pid 5586 (firefox), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) pid 5609 (firefox), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) pid 5611 (thunderbird), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Do you have the same issues ? firefox-27.0_1,1 thunderbird-24.3.0_1 Regards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 18:39:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFA25DA5; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 18:39:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FB9C15FB; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 18:39:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.193]) by ltcfislmsgpa05.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s1JIauKn018009 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:36:56 -0600 Received: from THEMADHATTER (10.242.181.54) by smarthost.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.193) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.174.1; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:36:53 -0600 From: Sender: Devin Teske To: References: <0fdd01cf2d29$dca0aba0$95e202e0$@FreeBSD.org> <4e4aa28301cedd61cb5693e79a90d0ab@dweimer.net> <0fdf01cf2d34$65d9de00$318d9a00$@FreeBSD.org> <87679f0a7789f01ad66b3c2ae55e3006@dweimer.net> <101101cf2d97$d708e630$851ab290$@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <101101cf2d97$d708e630$851ab290$@FreeBSD.org> Subject: RE: ZFS on Hardware RAID controller Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:36:50 -0800 Message-ID: <101701cf2da1$8f47ddb0$add79910$@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQLZ7+7/ieFjnRxrw7xfyVSgmKX96wLfKSMrAmxEjEMCYeNcAwLaiwfuAoMsxjQB418jsAKoN686AfZonAACK13Mj5f5nTXA Content-Language: en-us X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87, 1.0.14, 0.0.0000 definitions=2014-02-19_05:2014-02-18,2014-02-19,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:24:05 +0000 Cc: daver@vicor.com, questions@freebsd.org, 'Devin Teske' , freebsd@fongaboo.com, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, dteske@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 18:39:38 -0000 Re: JBOD... I think it's very telling that when Google gives you the description of JBOD, it actually comes from the Wikipedia, but ... it doesn't include the [misleading] statement about the [optional] act of joining the disks. Google's Definition: Just a Bunch Of Disks. A collection of hard disks that aren't configured according to RAID; A hard disk enclosure for several disks, especially one lacking a RAID controller Source: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/JBOD Definition from JBOD (abbreviated from "just a bunch of disks") is an architecture using multiple hard drives, but not in a RAID configuration, thus providing neither redundancy nor performance improvements. Hard drives *may be* handled independently as separate logical volumes, or they *may be* combined into a single logical volume using a volume manager like LVM; such [optionally combined] volumes are usually called "spanned".[2] I added the *'s around "may be" and also added the "[optionally combined]" texts to help clarify that for you. And I would go on to further say that the LVM volume manager used to combine the JBOD-access devices is not part of nor has any relation to said JBOD access. JBOD is a means of exporting the disks to the volume manager whose use is optional. -- Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 20:07:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 171C4E90 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:07:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x235.google.com (mail-wi0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3A4C1E2A for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id hi5so1037366wib.8 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:07:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=lxtMCwPFYKjvbcFib48igp3+t5JuWcb3JSBDJuDzSnQ=; b=ZFttrcotS/7NTjKXpDVpp7ex4Tz7a8J9mZ3jYnS/ozE1c+9JhSN+GsGq2stTjDdtBP 9MLru3Fn0S/aDkP49le6zT5MJRb2M+8F3wwT1G1P9rCGKOLzNn/A7LKxzwMs+pHPo4II EGLz08cb4hRVfAnimXSjahJ1i9Ds8+CB+9aJnbl7NAxiMNsatUVrEQrBnoUmwX+n9XNS Xv/HdbQDhN1xX9LtBBVQ5vbxQid/VzXObyLzI/RjBeGQ47PLlfELBe0wz4Ln8QHxVNxR 65qID23dK+V+iqaRgEkX0qvzoWuQSh2m/IGcfwjsS96aonrzY1Ycjham2wdd9h09ndha Cyew== X-Received: by 10.180.89.225 with SMTP id br1mr3422190wib.38.1392840454047; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:07:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: dcamp314@gmail.com Received: by 10.227.102.7 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:06:53 -0800 (PST) From: Christian Campbell Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 15:06:53 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: YhULjKeXmbU86fuzGak2bETitfY Message-ID: Subject: System freezes up during long-running ZFS disk activity To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcamp@alumni.ufl.edu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:07:36 -0000 I recently installed 9.2-RELEASE-p3 on a Dell Precision T5400. I'm using ZFS filesystem version: 5, ZFS storage pool version: features support (5000). The pool was imported from a previous 9.2 box on which it worked without issue. I don't know if my problem is ZFS-related, but my ZFS use is why I noticed it and I seem to be able to reproduce it reliably. Every so often, from minutes to hours, my computer will freeze up while ZFS has been busy. This happens during a resilver, a scrub, and a long-running process reading millions of files from the pool. When it freezes, all output and input freezes: tasks like zpool iostat -v 1 or top stop updating their output, whether on the console or an ssh terminal over Ethernet. Pressing keys does not garner a response.* Sometimes a freeze lasts minutes and then proceeds on its own. Sometimes it goes on for hours. An action that typically, but not always, jogs it is unplugging the USB keyboard -- the disk activity resumes immediately, and any queued keyboard input immediately plays out whether on the console or over ssh. Lastly, my ssh terminal (PuTTY) will stay connected for hours during a freeze-up, *i.e.* the TCP circuit is not closed or timed out, as opposed to closing pretty quickly after the server is powered off. In all cases, the system clock lags by the sum of the durations of the freezes. * During an initial resilver, I noticed that pressing a key such as Ctrl on the USB keyboard would jog it, but pressing Ctrl or other keys doesn't jog my process of long-running IO activity. But in all cases, even when unplugging and replugging the USB keyboard doesn't jog it, Ctrl-Alt-Del prompts an orderly shutdown. Debugging advise is very welcome! Thank you, Christian _____________________________________________________ 3425 SW 2nd Ave, #239 cell (352) 514-7411 Gainesville, FL 32607-2813 dcamp@alumni.ufl.edu On this perfect day / Nothing's standing in my way... -Hoku From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 20:22:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B536A43B for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:22:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5929410C4 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:22:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s1JKMFQ3022223; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:22:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dg@pki2.com) Subject: Re: System freezes up during long-running ZFS disk activity From: Dennis Glatting To: dcamp@alumni.ufl.edu In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:22:15 -0800 Message-ID: <1392841335.17181.46.camel@btw.pki2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner-ID: s1JKMFQ3022223 X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: dg@pki2.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:22:30 -0000 Sorry, I forgot to mention this URL: https://wiki.freebsd.org/AvgZfsDeadlockDebug On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 15:06 -0500, Christian Campbell wrote: > I recently installed 9.2-RELEASE-p3 on a Dell Precision T5400. I'm using > ZFS filesystem version: 5, ZFS storage pool version: features support > (5000). The pool was imported from a previous 9.2 box on which it worked > without issue. > > I don't know if my problem is ZFS-related, but my ZFS use is why I noticed > it and I seem to be able to reproduce it reliably. Every so often, from > minutes to hours, my computer will freeze up while ZFS has been busy. This > happens during a resilver, a scrub, and a long-running process reading > millions of files from the pool. When it freezes, all output and input > freezes: tasks like zpool iostat -v 1 or top stop updating their output, > whether on the console or an ssh terminal over Ethernet. Pressing keys does > not garner a response.* Sometimes a freeze lasts minutes and then proceeds > on its own. Sometimes it goes on for hours. An action that typically, but > not always, jogs it is unplugging the USB keyboard -- the disk activity > resumes immediately, and any queued keyboard input immediately plays out > whether on the console or over ssh. Lastly, my ssh terminal (PuTTY) will > stay connected for hours during a freeze-up, *i.e.* the TCP circuit is not > closed or timed out, as opposed to closing pretty quickly after the server > is powered off. > > In all cases, the system clock lags by the sum of the durations of the > freezes. > > * During an initial resilver, I noticed that pressing a key such as Ctrl on > the USB keyboard would jog it, but pressing Ctrl or other keys doesn't jog > my process of long-running IO activity. But in all cases, even when > unplugging and replugging the USB keyboard doesn't jog it, Ctrl-Alt-Del > prompts an orderly shutdown. > > Debugging advise is very welcome! > > Thank you, > Christian > > _____________________________________________________ > 3425 SW 2nd Ave, #239 cell (352) 514-7411 > Gainesville, FL 32607-2813 dcamp@alumni.ufl.edu > > On this perfect day / Nothing's standing in my way... -Hoku > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Dennis Glatting From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 21:12:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE80785C for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com (mail-ob0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A75D8150D for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f169.google.com with SMTP id wo20so1110320obc.14 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 13:12:49 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=NM0rSqK3rD/vwyi+sYmRJJLRhEeZyhZH9WG9AcrEyts=; b=eaQ7i/ol83KotfzybbypVumAgScjmXlPTiWTuckNiZadZ2JjMOJNqI9+CxXLYgf1ql hYLy80459U9H+kGvqW1ngJBtSUnVZeiquHSAuRqointT+983CHYhLmvgiI7nEvcXThr8 lm4H+Zixso8LdsHZ9MTzAA6o8FL6uJuY0ngKtnZ3bTW7ua2QnZ2zy3ylb16NOPq/rcui 6nfJ91sGzfzIbvK1WgVuVAsBDHUOWdI+Fi4LJWAR/B/cMNgEYYuCYqDhae8JAqrpechr 7FCqTX2yLizUR+zmA1DCKaYKeU0INAc/2fx1le39fMC58txgUgDRVUSXJcD0srxwGCkV WF3w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk8hopMg1AosxOU37QUWb1YC1UtEHl9HrJRSwYLvQamJM3JjP63Tnx2cu6DH/wyfj/5vI6x MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.134.200 with SMTP id pm8mr18553644oeb.40.1392844369169; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 13:12:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.233.37 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 13:12:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 15:12:49 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Converting a system from build from source to freebsd-update From: Bryce Edwards To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:12:55 -0000 I'd like to "convert" a system to use freebsd-update going forward. Since I have always used & know how to deal with source based upgrades, I took the opportunity to do the following housecleaning items: - Upgraded source to 10.0-RELEASE and not -stable so that I was aligned with a binary update compatible version - Cleared out /etc/make.conf and /etc/src.conf before building 10-RELEASE - Did a 'make delete' and 'make delete-old-libs' to clean out deprecated files (after the upgrade) - I'm using the GENERIC kernel I know it isn't designed for this use case, but is there a way to force a freebsd-update "upgrade" on a known-good system, so that I can use it going forward? I would expect it to replace all the distro files and merge any needed config files with the base versions provided with 10.0. As a result, I would then be able to use the great freebsd-update process going forward. Before the "that isn't supported" responses, I'm hoping we can work towards a specific set of requirements/rules for users to follow which can take us down the "happy path". This is geared towards folks wanting to make this transition on _established_ systems and they are willing and able to follow these rules. Otherwise, we are saying too bad so sad, you can only use our great new freebsd-update tool if you did if from day 1 and never used the source upgrade process that was promoted for a very long time. That seems highly limiting to the take rate of systems we'd like to see using the binary update system. 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Privacy Policy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 01:33:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 579CD910 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 01:33:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 151E01A54 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 01:33:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WGIWH-000399-Nb for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 02:33:45 +0100 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 02:33:45 +0100 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 02:33:45 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Trying to set up wireless networking Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 01:33:19 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 23 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net User-Agent: XPN/1.2.6 (Street Spirit ; Linux) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 01:33:55 -0000 This is a fresh installation of 10.0-RELEASE (amd64). Despite following the relevant section in the handbook, I can't seem to get wireless networking (at home) set up properly. The router is on 192.168.1.1, using WEP (yes, I know) and I am trying to give FreeBSD a fixed IP address of 192.168.1.3. Here is the output of ifconfig wlan0: wlan0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 0c:ee:e6:80:ed:52 inet 192.168.1.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 inet6 fe80::eee:e6ff:fe80:ed52%wlan0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 nd6 options=29 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet MCS mode 11ng status: associated ssid daddysnetwork channel 7 (2442 MHz 11g ht/20) bssid 00:24:01:c6:d7:c4 regdomain 101 indoor ecm authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey 1 wepkey 1:104-bit txpower 20 bmiss 7 scanvalid 60 protmode CTS ampdulimit 64k ampdudensity 4 shortgi wme burst But when I try, for example, to ping 8.8.8.8 (Google's public DNS), all packets are lost. What am I doing wrong? What other information should I provide? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 02:12:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 529F5220 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 02:12:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-x230.google.com (mail-bk0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4008:c01::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D95181D1C for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 02:12:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f48.google.com with SMTP id 6so453734bkj.21 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 18:12:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=cXdn/1Oc8vv9ZiHF/vlICHZlNdtKy7yMWe9sdZIcZ9k=; b=x0J/dgSa+2xUeuoj0zH5XXA/WRaoJKvS8XkxVMcKq3AfkIMUCfOj65dvARcOfx9Prs nwdA7ncc2zzJrxgI6tDKykZIutdY3z7Y0bSDL+xt8yPSImQjRIjm5FxOVWaWszMx/Dcn UHn8gC+P24e9REx9Xw6auurp86q0SGplDrtvH0lTzcUfhrkHmvzIWOLuG8CVSVjH7dJ4 p9BoMkQ17RSZ161wttihOs2FP8s5fZfd9xbiXlzid+FbO5DWSsdSKtXuhladB5L815sX dTDiJRFvDlmSCSvo4KqeM2sRun4h9gnsfCOWhJuoOx80HWV0iePISjkRsJAA5+j8GRi/ 4QLA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.205.5.65 with SMTP id of1mr1012254bkb.111.1392862343342; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 18:12:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.10.131 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 18:12:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 18:12:23 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Trying to set up wireless networking From: Waitman Gobble To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 02:12:26 -0000 On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: > This is a fresh installation of 10.0-RELEASE (amd64). > > Despite following the relevant section in the handbook, I can't seem to > get wireless networking (at home) set up properly. > > The router is on 192.168.1.1, using WEP (yes, I know) and I am trying to > give FreeBSD a fixed IP address of 192.168.1.3. > > Here is the output of ifconfig wlan0: > > wlan0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > ether 0c:ee:e6:80:ed:52 > inet 192.168.1.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > inet6 fe80::eee:e6ff:fe80:ed52%wlan0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 > nd6 options=29 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet MCS mode 11ng > status: associated > ssid daddysnetwork channel 7 (2442 MHz 11g ht/20) bssid > 00:24:01:c6:d7:c4 > regdomain 101 indoor ecm authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey 1 > wepkey 1:104-bit txpower 20 bmiss 7 scanvalid 60 protmode CTS > ampdulimit 64k ampdudensity 4 shortgi wme burst > > But when I try, for example, to ping 8.8.8.8 (Google's public DNS), all > packets are lost. > > What am I doing wrong? What other information should I provide? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > hi, did you try: > route add default 192.168.1.1 -- Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA 510-830-7975 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 03:50:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88F9394B for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 03:50:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51AB21986 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 03:50:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:cwr@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.15]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s1K3ntMD020898 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256 bits) verified NO) for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 03:50:06 GMT Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 03:49:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Charlie X-X-Sender: cwr@sdf.lonestar.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: XFCE User Switching Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 03:50:12 -0000 Hello all, I recently bought an Intel NUC system to set up as "TV PC." FreeBSD 10 runs quite nicely on it, by the way! Since this computer is going to be hooked up to my TV, I need to be able to switch user accounts easily. My desktop of choice is XFCE. I can't seem to get user switching to work, though. I have GDM installed and enabled, as I thought this was a requirement, but it still doesn't work. When I click on the "Switch User" option, the screen just fades to my screensaver. I uninstalled xscreensaver to see what would happen, and then it just flickers a few times and nothing happens. Typing "gdmflexiserver -ls" also just makes the screen flicker. Any suggetions? Thanks! Charlie cwr@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 03:59:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E7A6B6A for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 03:59:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.lariat.net (mail.lariat.net [66.62.230.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442051A36 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 03:59:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Toshi.lariat.net (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA09587 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:39:08 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <201402200339.UAA09587@mail.lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:39:05 -0700 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Subject: Instability in re driver? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 03:59:25 -0000 Everyone: We've been experiencing occasional crashes on heavily loaded machines that have Realtek gigabit Ethernet ports built into their motherboards. This evening, at a time of peak usage, one of the machines showed the log messages Feb 19 18:44:14 server kernel: re0: watchdog timeout Feb 19 18:44:14 server kernel: re0: link state changed to DOWN Feb 19 18:44:18 server kernel: re0: link state changed to UP even though we did not take the port down or up. A few minutes later, the entire machine locked up solid and required a power cycle. Here are the boot time messages from the same server (as I rebooted it following the crash): Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: re0: port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xfeadf000-0xfeadffff,0xfdefc000-0xfdefffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: re0: Using 1 MSI-X message Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: re0: Chip rev. 0x28000000 Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: re0: MAC rev. 0x00000000 Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: miibus0: on re0 Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: rgephy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: rgephy0: none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 10baseT-FDX-flow , 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseTX-FDX-flow, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000base T-FDX-master, 1000baseT-FDX-flow, 1000baseT-FDX-flow-master, auto, auto-flow This problem is occurring on several servers built with the same motherboard/chipset. Are there known bugs, hangs, or memory leaks that might have led to this condition? Are there recent fixes which address it? (The machines that are crashing are all running the latest security patch level of FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE.) --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 04:30:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67AE4F1 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:30:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41B291D4B for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:30:34 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=U0yAuc5lvAndj4oUmNshwTdEFj/VfXHYgMT7Yh0qfFU=; b=hWdS6SYB+TirIPoWJ9swyV1wNM3Q10Vw7gCdp0dzHJqY9r1+kT8M42EHz+rSw6k3+0Yh3eLcYZYa73C0mjhin2x9y7fJo4f3zakqsm9SjQiya7BiSeRjO4uP1WNd+UZWVAjhUjXJztUI02rm2vJ+7kYw07GNdFJdVsB4g2qBUpM=; Received: from [39.199.31.111] (port=30013 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1WGLHM-004GJN-DY; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:30:33 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:30:26 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Charlie Subject: Re: XFCE User Switching Message-ID: <20140220123026.5d10a4ea@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:30:34 -0000 Hi, On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 03:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Charlie wrote: > My desktop of choice is XFCE. I can't seem to get user switching to I do not have XFCE running anymore but if I remember right, you just log out and then log in again under a new user name. If you only want to start new programs under a different account, just use su in an xterm. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 12:08:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81E3D75B for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:08:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm37.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm37.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.62]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB19B17FC for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:08:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.82.98.124] by nm37.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Feb 2014 12:08:17 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.69] by tm17.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Feb 2014 12:08:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp106.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Feb 2014 12:08:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1392898097; bh=Tk80qByT9fPmuBqgtb1DYTRrDq1d6YUMi1Cm9SzeODY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=TI99E7FrSj1jKtSpyn6EZYdMXQrvH6UkK97V8t2bMW3XZxkQ/PcSx/oPD/K7x9YgxCcILxt99e62ACDlOydi2wyl8qQmN5Z6Zp7+cfZmMXvsiQujk8cpq3nNh2zKGsPDQ80Zjyn2VpjcTBcmaGpWWWiKBtE5OKqIYXuz2HO7DsM= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 665997.99254.bm@smtp106.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 5.0ID98VM1lM5OnwJI5O0MYfrSr7e9qS3tXCZ3W2K8E7oso cPyxczeM8LijAMiwpEG_WuRhZ3kxfgw2yug0pvCjizKYG9KUW0iRufQBkWlM I.CdqCUKAktXC69AyM.rlPlWduJdZgR.crbr2wFCMdqs.OiPCWkEWyimMtyz 4joaJFpqPFiwggGz0sz9XFzHTUWCn.gXLqGlBdKjlDpfTsMIxBO0tXkgM6p4 Ibx3.YBAXheVSM7Emz.mwy6hjWEOnbb3SoM348hJYPP86frZkmwhWD6z0JCF p5ZptgJGkcvQ9.VVQ98Dro2nJ7bC8JdlLb80NKFaCWtPIA4lXTl0sRO9cLFB ppPAqVgSWAwk8j.M3sa9iHov9QjrqRq_8_zB5Y0GPHod_FmU21JwD5Hk8bEM 8cXwHX2P3cM7RV0w462VBQ_.3rwmku3Kd7cXfhzGwoQgD6rlUA98Kkn_9ln3 C7Ge4lM3YJY6By1L7Xb_pkUc9l7THyzJhSQOukHUYuvHVqpwx0AJftw9x_Jt 5eCFyn10yWuvdtvYl4QT26EXvc7IynQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- X-Rocket-Received: from [85.182.19.110] (ralf.mardorf@85.182.19.110 with plain [188.125.69.59]) by smtp106.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 2014 12:08:17 +0000 UTC Message-ID: <1392898096.682.39.camel@archlinux> Subject: Re: XFCE User Switching From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 13:08:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20140220123026.5d10a4ea@X220.alogt.com> References: <20140220123026.5d10a4ea@X220.alogt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:08:26 -0000 On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 12:30 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > If you only want to start new programs under a different account, just > use su in an xterm. Isn't for FreeBSD something like e.g. xhost + needed, assumed the OP want's to run a GUI app by another account? For Linux it is. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 12:26:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A3B5C30 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x233.google.com (mail-wg0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E84BB19F2 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:26:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id n12so1380530wgh.6 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:26:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lexxmail.net; s=google; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:message-id:date :to:mime-version; bh=M9y4n8EoJ7T/iGj8z2ibEVlO6f0V2i2ocjZk2HHGoC4=; b=Nne6rQN0CeqwLX7W2I8iXxhTzaYCGd7gFvwz2DrFIDEnfATvNpU4YgBoeVj/F2ccn3 HfYE2aGKmDOGgmHR5sZKbNU9r+cgPSHh3Ecs+s3tce5VHWz0QnX8d5nNLvy7+vcjlNie 20mD3cJb4HN2nCLw4NEqsvlewZHukrStvJALc= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :subject:message-id:date:to:mime-version; bh=M9y4n8EoJ7T/iGj8z2ibEVlO6f0V2i2ocjZk2HHGoC4=; b=RorrM15HE0m9FqijX4mMMhk7oSQGFNPa94A+fyjsUBzqu6PlFb9ltoL/CJQWgZbY+h CwKzKB+w3O5YfHj6WEnc4dLDVfrz2wT1AXyYPqiAqP0/r8HhnEyWbD+myDnXNXs9VUX4 Z0oH1C4epUIEdklySJkbzkB05NcWIN7G7qOpIPW9ErUMWZBDQBVhzloLEOMPDNnVa/yH 6ImleiWiPr8HNIH778Qx+B2wgiytxiMKL9hOOXWSqfilkkqmU2JZdh3sZcSm0DZEOMSs XNfPUpjim57AmysBMgNM2Vonuo7tgnK4Y/8kLETFu+sxBm6satZOx4QifGSfjQ65lAnm HAsA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnjOO0vRiNfYHgu7hSx2buRmcHuTV/E1M2yg5p+N8AVuOy5sjb3epOlpOb8qrMZBNu/fTrl X-Received: by 10.194.134.132 with SMTP id pk4mr1735287wjb.82.1392899185215; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:26:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (cpc30-heme11-2-0-cust200.9-1.cable.virginm.net. [81.105.21.201]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ff7sm61115735wic.10.2014.02.20.04.26.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:26:24 -0800 (PST) From: Andre Skarzynski Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Any plans for Qt5 in FreeBSD ? Message-Id: <7569784E-7B51-4447-BF7E-F4735D61896E@lexxmail.net> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:26:21 +0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:26:27 -0000 Dear FreeBSD, I have not seen any helpful answers after doing some extensive searches = on the status of Qt 5 on FreeBSD.=20 More and more Qt applications are moving to Qt5 and I fear that FreeBSD = will fall by the way if nothing is done. I know I could build my own, but before I start, I was wondering if = there are already plans for Qt5 Kind Regards, Andr=E9 --= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 12:30:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32BD8D20 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:30:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ve0-x22c.google.com (mail-ve0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c01::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E29F61A28 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:30:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f172.google.com with SMTP id c14so1786821vea.3 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:30:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2qpGAvdSmVJT1VAnKj5n2lUkHGUQoingZ52FHeG8Z4E=; b=0CszLuHR6HWfmLrSw8bnGfMTUVTZhjc0uWzfOsw2SHqFVpv8VjBICq3Uil6kNEEeeY 1cQjdgTuQIaONSWKfijPZRQnj+RfRjtyifc9wzvd3Kurp2T3wHGY9kSmifodOREA8SyR ebOcxKzbigkMfILwLeW+EsjH7TaqqzISfYgkeDt6pkh5mXAuEFsbaWrXosITzGba+iPU a7Vky77z65Dbyg3oStOZ2miOjo/mhKj+wClP0eMXCsalSOS74x7eREG54sIZYQguTm6I pUwQbroGTs4ZywGtB22ijGAOXCzJ5IW61wTrVMCLWNmBje0SIf8mtDjI7GF7LshM6Zvc +6Ug== X-Received: by 10.52.183.106 with SMTP id el10mr667966vdc.73.1392899418058; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:30:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.162.169 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:29:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7569784E-7B51-4447-BF7E-F4735D61896E@lexxmail.net> References: <7569784E-7B51-4447-BF7E-F4735D61896E@lexxmail.net> From: Anton Sayetsky Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:29:57 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any plans for Qt5 in FreeBSD ? To: Andre Skarzynski Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:30:19 -0000 2014-02-20 14:26 GMT+02:00 Andre Skarzynski : > Dear FreeBSD, > > I have not seen any helpful answers after doing some extensive searches o= n the status of Qt 5 on FreeBSD. > > More and more Qt applications are moving to Qt5 and I fear that FreeBSD w= ill fall by the way if nothing is done. > > I know I could build my own, but before I start, I was wondering if there= are already plans for Qt5 > > > Kind Regards, > > Andr=E9 http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=3Drevision&revision=3D338902 > Log Message: > In preparation for Qt 5 ports: From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 12:32:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B177FDFD for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:32:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-x22f.google.com (mail-qg0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BA631AB6 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:32:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qg0-f47.google.com with SMTP id 63so3917775qgz.6 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:32:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=7sowkdVlxGZ0Lds6Wb3JCz6SWEf9vJbEFQzm3fiq91c=; b=cCtl0vRCRCFtBwf77OtoPzFdURr1Lo55BifS/HODD+OHPft1toayEK8AwDAWZFML5I cRcaGFfkUyAP8BJULRG6wFaq2w27ELRqLax90hKovwQLCdHfZm2dnSbL8edfy7bt4ZpC 5BEpdkmUQU1ugHrYweQ9dGnsIQJz35afY2tkFwspV1y25ZYrJ7ojcMVleIrS+DWNsXF6 Uk0gwz6hxwuOIbVvx9CF3jiqy8BtNO5zOfNfFAcSv6m3DNaMgMaA4gnRPu0WR4HeP8Nc FRe4ySd9dDkB92KmQsVqySRwv4zDFeQGqW4VgZwydWwS9mzp70AYSHnYh2uukehzF2B5 yUGg== X-Received: by 10.229.66.202 with SMTP id o10mr1147975qci.7.1392899543611; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:32:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from lumiwa.farms.net (pool-70-20-60-77.man.east.myfairpoint.net. [70.20.60.77]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d15sm11712471qaq.4.2014.02.20.04.32.22 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:32:23 -0800 (PST) From: Ajtim To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: docbook again Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 07:32:21 -0500 Message-ID: <9181416.YDrgVGNyHY@lumiwa.farms.net> User-Agent: KMail/4.11.4 (FreeBSD/10.0-RELEASE; KDE/4.11.4; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:32:24 -0000 Hi! I have FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE (amd64) and I am confused how to update (if) docbook. In the /usr/ports/UPDATING are instructions for pkg users and if I run what is there I got: kg delete -f docbook-xml* docbook-sk* docbook[2345]??-* docbook-4* pkg: No match Than I did run portmaster -aDi and I got: ===>>> Update docbook-1.4_2 to docbook-1.5? y/n [y] n ===>>> The textproc/docbook-sk port moved to textproc/docbook-xml ===>>> Reason: Merged into textproc/docbook-xml ===>>> Update docbook-sk-4.1.2_5? y/n [y] n ===>>> Update docbook-xml-4.2_2 to docbook-xml-5.0_1? y/n [y] n ===>>> The textproc/docbook-xml-450 port moved to textproc/docbook-xml ===>>> Reason: Merged into textproc/docbook-xml ===>>> Update docbook-xml-4.5_1? y/n [y] n ===>>> The textproc/docbook-xml-430 port moved to textproc/docbook-xml ===>>> Reason: Merged into textproc/docbook-xml ===>>> Update docbook-xml-430-4.3_1? y/n [y] n ===>>> The textproc/docbook-xml-440 port moved to textproc/docbook-xml ===>>> Reason: Merged into textproc/docbook-xml ===>>> Update docbook-xml44-4.4_2? y/n [y] n ===>>> The textproc/docbook-410 port moved to textproc/docbook-sgml ===>>> Reason: Merged into textproc/docbook-sgml ===>>> Update docbook410-4.1_5? y/n [y] n ===>>> The textproc/docbook-420 port moved to textproc/docbook-sgml ===>>> Reason: Merged into textproc/docbook-sgml ===>>> Update docbook420-4.2_1? y/n [y] n ===>>> The textproc/docbook-430 port moved to textproc/docbook-sgml ===>>> Reason: Merged into textproc/docbook-sgml ===>>> Update docbook430-4.3_1? y/n [y] n ===>>> The textproc/docbook-440 port moved to textproc/docbook-sgml ===>>> Reason: Merged into textproc/docbook-sgml ===>>> Update docbook440-4.4_3? y/n [y] n ===>>> The textproc/docbook-450 port moved to textproc/docbook-sgml ===>>> Reason: Merged into textproc/docbook-sgml ===>>> Update docbook450-4.5_3? y/n [y] n ===>>> The textproc/docbook-500 port moved to textproc/docbook-xml ===>>> Reason: Merged into textproc/docbook-xml ===>>> Update docbook500-5.0_3? y/n [y] n I didn't want to update anything because I don't know what kind of problems I should get. BTW: Is some test update for docbook, please? -- Mitja ------- http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 12:37:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E29EF54 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:37:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ve0-x22c.google.com (mail-ve0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c01::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE1A11B05 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:37:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f172.google.com with SMTP id c14so1767475vea.31 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:36:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=K0CJB9VuPd1w4Kxtx+63dTU4+W3LchSvalxHynAhC+c=; b=gW6agvbVYVbd47gW5i63H8oOBTREOJNfrO0VREOh0xrb829HSyfYZ0Yc2Tw/lXd1yu LcSErdAKSSon7f4+E5nEmTZToCTvvtcHhGq15RDRtfG1akaInLJp9BlKNcGCRcYQjQfQ xFIp4iSNuh8yvN1JD0bKRIOt9jWBBI2LqDEdRXxym6gAoi3TH2THiAbWrVmV7Am+5/BM FbyeGFyIQlqZKZAj77+yAIHIH4C5jnKpOgAcI+zNW6XsgIB6eMDtW8fvaqFQ32nVOIOP yW3s1+MeZkDVyHd69tpLeFt1UGI7hELzNFVG4Xuaxtjm6ZwsHb062T1pVWVXCxhCYsI+ 140g== X-Received: by 10.52.26.106 with SMTP id k10mr675260vdg.85.1392899819950; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:36:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.162.169 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:36:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9181416.YDrgVGNyHY@lumiwa.farms.net> References: <9181416.YDrgVGNyHY@lumiwa.farms.net> From: Anton Sayetsky Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:36:39 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: docbook again To: Ajtim Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:37:01 -0000 2014-02-20 14:32 GMT+02:00 Ajtim : > Hi! > > I have FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE (amd64) and I am confused how to update (if) docbook. In the /usr/ports/UPDATING are instructions for pkg users and if I run what is there I got: > > > kg delete -f docbook-xml* docbook-sk* docbook[2345]??-* docbook-4* > pkg: No match > > Than I did run portmaster -aDi and I got: > > > > > ===>>> Update docbook-1.4_2 to docbook-1.5? y/n [y] n > > > ===>>> The textproc/docbook-sk port moved to textproc/docbook-xml > ===>>> Reason: Merged into textproc/docbook-xml > > ===>>> Update docbook-sk-4.1.2_5? y/n [y] n > > ===>>> Update docbook-xml-4.2_2 to docbook-xml-5.0_1? y/n [y] n > > > ===>>> The textproc/docbook-xml-450 port moved to textproc/docbook-xml > ===>>> Reason: Merged into textproc/docbook-xml > > ===>>> Update docbook-xml-4.5_1? y/n [y] n > > > ===>>> The textproc/docbook-xml-430 port moved to textproc/docbook-xml > ===>>> Reason: Merged into textproc/docbook-xml > > ===>>> Update docbook-xml-430-4.3_1? y/n [y] n > > > ===>>> The textproc/docbook-xml-440 port moved to textproc/docbook-xml > ===>>> Reason: Merged into textproc/docbook-xml > > ===>>> Update docbook-xml44-4.4_2? y/n [y] n > > > ===>>> The textproc/docbook-410 port moved to textproc/docbook-sgml > ===>>> Reason: Merged into textproc/docbook-sgml > > ===>>> Update docbook410-4.1_5? y/n [y] n > > > ===>>> The textproc/docbook-420 port moved to textproc/docbook-sgml > ===>>> Reason: Merged into textproc/docbook-sgml > > ===>>> Update docbook420-4.2_1? y/n [y] n > > > ===>>> The textproc/docbook-430 port moved to textproc/docbook-sgml > ===>>> Reason: Merged into textproc/docbook-sgml > > ===>>> Update docbook430-4.3_1? y/n [y] n > > > ===>>> The textproc/docbook-440 port moved to textproc/docbook-sgml > ===>>> Reason: Merged into textproc/docbook-sgml > > ===>>> Update docbook440-4.4_3? y/n [y] n > > > ===>>> The textproc/docbook-450 port moved to textproc/docbook-sgml > ===>>> Reason: Merged into textproc/docbook-sgml > > ===>>> Update docbook450-4.5_3? y/n [y] n > > > ===>>> The textproc/docbook-500 port moved to textproc/docbook-xml > ===>>> Reason: Merged into textproc/docbook-xml > > ===>>> Update docbook500-5.0_3? y/n [y] n > > I didn't want to update anything because I don't know what kind of problems I should get. > BTW: Is some test update for docbook, please? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 12:38:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DC0770 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x234.google.com (mail-we0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08EC01B1B for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:38:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f180.google.com with SMTP id u57so1423912wes.11 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:38:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lexxmail.net; s=google; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=zR9lAKezfZpzX/20vOiq99iI4h5cyAD2El2mZwyPmag=; b=R6fTakXEX7YmJTmq9ICdTQiTGH6m/k05zCgNnHVZxni1Il26IVNqqZulL+/4xkDLzJ Z1XCex60AzRD0By84zhQVXotj6wrqDEr8LyAr5eA8LUjWysUYW5l+04ZNc1Yyom29A85 PPd2uZ83r3+pb4RBFCtTgjhW/z0sRa4lQetv8= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=zR9lAKezfZpzX/20vOiq99iI4h5cyAD2El2mZwyPmag=; b=bC5Rd59JcpZww3VJ237wGftoR2dqlnlNSb3kaA1Sg1lQoUI3PtzdcZVnwT5N3BUM65 ZgaXSifOob/IDWay0c5g6SGw6cX+165okg22ZmxlEgNh7zO0rOxSkVawNfXUtcXXyZQQ gIwwET/NaVDYxv/JSuvGjspV/KeqT3BZQ81RdUW8/d2Tv+tVPGtH6oNxnbV0aDAXbNBB 1nRYJ2d0nN0VNNiNo01mNio1fN13hcq75UKojn7/sfOQPFJ6gVzAPYnoXqiEQt+DVyGu 1ME/JRHK0EVWoHeA8CD3qHolPDB1r45SYQT0j0q1SQHgy7WhiSjpN2Hw/EG96glmF2n2 xQLw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQllP3byiquAkjnYm4vs3I0VnFNqj4SvP4Xw0F6KhLy1GyE+AiA331qATvqSR9PoF8IdFu+6 X-Received: by 10.180.100.72 with SMTP id ew8mr6936045wib.16.1392899905293; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:38:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (cpc30-heme11-2-0-cust200.9-1.cable.virginm.net. [81.105.21.201]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id xt1sm8614390wjb.17.2014.02.20.04.38.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:38:24 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) Subject: Re: Any plans for Qt5 in FreeBSD ? From: Andre Skarzynski In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:38:22 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <7569784E-7B51-4447-BF7E-F4735D61896E@lexxmail.net> To: Anton Sayetsky X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:38:27 -0000 Excellent, thank you. On 20 Feb 2014, at 12:29, Anton Sayetsky wrote: > 2014-02-20 14:26 GMT+02:00 Andre Skarzynski : >> Dear FreeBSD, >>=20 >> I have not seen any helpful answers after doing some extensive = searches on the status of Qt 5 on FreeBSD. >>=20 >> More and more Qt applications are moving to Qt5 and I fear that = FreeBSD will fall by the way if nothing is done. >>=20 >> I know I could build my own, but before I start, I was wondering if = there are already plans for Qt5 >>=20 >>=20 >> Kind Regards, >>=20 >> Andr=E9 > http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=3Drevision&revision=3D338902 >> Log Message: >> In preparation for Qt 5 ports: From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 13:48:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CF65B55 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 13:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de (wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de [IPv6:2a01:488:42::50ed:8591]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DA8C12A1 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 13:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from xdsl-78-34-147-229.netcologne.de ([78.34.147.229] helo=dijkstra-old.hb22.cruwe.de); authenticated by wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) id 1WGTyv-0002mM-0k; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:48:05 +0100 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:47:53 +0100 From: "Christopher J. 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ESMTPS id AF97D457 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:49:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de (wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de [IPv6:2a01:488:42::50ed:8591]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BE7A1922 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:49:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from xdsl-78-34-147-229.netcologne.de ([78.34.147.229] helo=dijkstra-old.hb22.cruwe.de); authenticated by wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) id 1WGUvu-0006bZ-4k; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:49:02 +0100 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:49:01 +0100 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg or ports. Message-ID: <20140220154901.60729359@dijkstra-old.hb22.cruwe.de> In-Reply-To: <20140218183006.GA96258@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <20140218170142.GA78433@pcjas.obspm.fr> <20140218190759.44d565ee@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> <20140218183006.GA96258@pcjas.obspm.fr> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de;cjr@cruwe.de;1392907744;f3ff89bc; X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:49:04 -0000 On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:30:06 +0100 Albert Shih wrote: > Ok. > > One more question (probably stupid...): > > My server use jail, can I use the host to build and use it on all > jail ? or should I use a jail for poudriere ? > > Thanks for the help > > Regards. > > JAS You can do both, although poudriere builds in jails anyway. Jail configuration and setup is taken care of by poudriere. So, you need to answer yourself in anything is gained by nesting jails. (I wouldn't do it, but I do not know about your setup.) Cheers, -- Christopher TZ: GMT + 1h GnuPG/GPG: 0xE8DE2C14 FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE #1 r256184: Thu Oct 10 19:12:54 CEST 2013 cjr@dijkstra.cruwe.de:/usr/obj/usr/home/cjr/media/src/freebsd/base/stable/9/sys/GEN_WDTRACE Punctuation matters: "Lets eat Grandma." or "Lets eat, Grandma." - Punctuation saves lives. "A panda eats shoots and leaves." or "A panda eats, shoots, and leaves." - Punctuation teaches proper biology. "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." (RFC 1925) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 15:57:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3EB84C56 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:57:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E045010EA for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s1KFvvoW069811 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Feb 2014 08:57:57 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s1KFvvWC069808; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 08:57:57 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 08:57:57 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Anton Sayetsky Subject: Re: docbook again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <9181416.YDrgVGNyHY@lumiwa.farms.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 20 Feb 2014 08:57:57 -0700 (MST) Cc: Ajtim , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:57:59 -0000 On Thu, 20 Feb 2014, Anton Sayetsky wrote: > 2014-02-20 14:32 GMT+02:00 Ajtim : >> >> I have FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE (amd64) and I am confused how to update (if) docbook. In the /usr/ports/UPDATING are instructions for pkg users and if I run what is there I got: The second command is for users of the old package database. >> kg delete -f docbook-xml* docbook-sk* docbook[2345]??-* docbook-4* >> pkg: No match That pkg ran says you have already switched to pkg. Remember that pkg is a package database, it works with ports the same way the old one did. >> I didn't want to update anything because I don't know what kind of problems I should get. >> BTW: Is some test update for docbook, please? > Place backslashes before each asterisk in package names. And square brackets, and question marks, all globbing characters. UPDATING has been updated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 16:07:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21F5AF35 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:07:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (mail-in-08.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8C4111CB for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-in-13-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-13-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.30]) by mx.arcor.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68AA715C0BB for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:32:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-12.arcor-online.net (mail-in-12.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.52]) by mail-in-13-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2250214AAFF for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:32:49 +0100 (CET) X-Greylist: Passed host: 94.217.97.75 X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 mail-in-12.arcor-online.net 7C61426360 Received: from lorvorc.mips.inka.de (dslb-094-217-097-075.pools.arcor-ip.net [94.217.97.75]) by mail-in-12.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C61426360 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:32:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from lorvorc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.14.8/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s1KFWj5b099659 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:32:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull@lorvorc.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) id s1KFWiuX099658 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:32:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull) From: Christian Weisgerber Subject: Re: firefox and thunderbird randomly segfault Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:32:43 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <5304FF16.7060002@gmail.com> User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (FreeBSD) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:07:47 -0000 On 2014-02-19, David Demelier wrote: > After an update, firefox and thunderbird randomly segfault at any time. > It a bit annoying and I can't find the cause : > > pid 5586 (firefox), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > pid 5609 (firefox), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > pid 5611 (thunderbird), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > > Do you have the same issues ? Maybe. I don't know what "update" you are talking about. In my case, it was the update from 9-STABLE to 10-STABLE (amd64) at the turn of the year. Firefox 26 and previous versions had been fairly stable on 9.x. Crashes were too rare for me to really take notice. Once a month maybe? On 10.x, Firefox 26 (recompiled on 10.x) started crashing every other day. This has continued with Firefox 27. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 16:34:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFB4F570 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 839381499 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [172.17.17.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s1KGR2S8085555 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Feb 2014 10:27:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.7/8.14.6) with ESMTP id s1KGR1X5003074 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Feb 2014 10:27:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.8/8.14.7/Submit) id s1KGR1nG003073; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 10:27:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 10:27:01 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Instability in re driver? Message-ID: <20140220162701.GD80443@dan.emsphone.com> References: <201402200339.UAA09587@mail.lariat.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201402200339.UAA09587@mail.lariat.net> X-OS: FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.1 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (email2.allantgroup.com [172.17.19.78]); Thu, 20 Feb 2014 10:27:02 -0600 (CST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on email2.allantgroup.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:34:39 -0000 In the last episode (Feb 19), Brett Glass said: > We've been experiencing occasional crashes on heavily loaded machines that > have Realtek gigabit Ethernet ports built into their motherboards. This > evening, at a time of peak usage, one of the machines showed the log > messages > > Feb 19 18:44:14 server kernel: re0: watchdog timeout > Feb 19 18:44:14 server kernel: re0: link state changed to DOWN > Feb 19 18:44:18 server kernel: re0: link state changed to UP > > even though we did not take the port down or up. A few minutes later, the > entire machine locked up solid and required a power cycle. > > Here are the boot time messages from the same server (as I rebooted it > following the crash): > > Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: re0: port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xfeadf000-0xfeadffff,0xfdefc000-0xfdefffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 > Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: re0: Using 1 MSI-X message > Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: re0: Chip rev. 0x28000000 > Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: re0: MAC rev. 0x00000000 > Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: miibus0: on re0 > Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: rgephy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 > Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: rgephy0: none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 10baseT-FDX-flow, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseTX-FDX-flow, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, 1000baseT-FDX-flow, 1000baseT-FDX-flow-master, auto, auto-flow > > This problem is occurring on several servers built with the same > motherboard/chipset. Are there known bugs, hangs, or memory leaks that > might have led to this condition? Are there recent fixes which address > it? (The machines that are crashing are all running the latest security > patch level of FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE.) I have had a similar persistent problem with a re0 interface in one of my machines, where medium UDP traffic sometimes causes a problem with the clock timer. Packets stop flowing, calls to nanosleep() never return, etc. I have watchdogd enabled, so the system ends up resetting on its own. Without that, it would just sit in a half-frozen state indefinitely. The machine is an old Dell Studio 540s, and I've seen the problem on FreeBSD 7, 8 and 9, i386 and amd64. I assumed it was just a problem with my motherboard since nobody else has ever reported a similar problem, and it only resets once or twice a month, so it doesn't really affect me. Neither disabling MSI nor using a different timecounter seems to help. re0: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xfebff000-0xfebfffff,0xfdff0000-0xfdffffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci3 re0: MSI count : 1 re0: MSI-X count : 2 re0: attempting to allocate 1 MSI-X vectors (2 supported) msi: routing MSI-X IRQ 259 to local APIC 0 vector 58 re0: using IRQ 259 for MSI-X re0: Using 1 MSI-X message re0: Chip rev. 0x3c000000 re0: MAC rev. 0x00400000 miibus0: on re0 rgephy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 rgephy0: OUI 0x00e04c, model 0x0011, rev. 2 rgephy0: none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 10baseT-FDX-flow, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseTX-FDX-flow, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, 1000baseT-FDX-flow, 1000baseT-FDX-flow-master, auto, auto-flow -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 16:59:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AD2CB7A for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCEBF16DF for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s1KGxbEN097285; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 08:59:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@penx.com) Subject: Re: Instability in re driver? From: Dennis Glatting To: Dan Nelson In-Reply-To: <20140220162701.GD80443@dan.emsphone.com> References: <201402200339.UAA09587@mail.lariat.net> <20140220162701.GD80443@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 08:59:36 -0800 Message-ID: <1392915576.67604.10.camel@btw.pki2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner-ID: s1KGxbEN097285 X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: freebsd@penx.com Cc: Brett Glass , questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:59:51 -0000 On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 10:27 -0600, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Feb 19), Brett Glass said: > > We've been experiencing occasional crashes on heavily loaded machines that > > have Realtek gigabit Ethernet ports built into their motherboards. This > > evening, at a time of peak usage, one of the machines showed the log > > messages > > > > Feb 19 18:44:14 server kernel: re0: watchdog timeout > > Feb 19 18:44:14 server kernel: re0: link state changed to DOWN > > Feb 19 18:44:18 server kernel: re0: link state changed to UP > > > > even though we did not take the port down or up. A few minutes later, the > > entire machine locked up solid and required a power cycle. > > > > Here are the boot time messages from the same server (as I rebooted it > > following the crash): > > > > Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: re0: port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xfeadf000-0xfeadffff,0xfdefc000-0xfdefffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 > > Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: re0: Using 1 MSI-X message > > Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: re0: Chip rev. 0x28000000 > > Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: re0: MAC rev. 0x00000000 > > Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: miibus0: on re0 > > Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: rgephy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 > > Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: rgephy0: none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 10baseT-FDX-flow, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseTX-FDX-flow, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, 1000baseT-FDX-flow, 1000baseT-FDX-flow-master, auto, auto-flow > > > > This problem is occurring on several servers built with the same > > motherboard/chipset. Are there known bugs, hangs, or memory leaks that > > might have led to this condition? Are there recent fixes which address > > it? (The machines that are crashing are all running the latest security > > patch level of FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE.) > > I have had a similar persistent problem with a re0 interface in one of my > machines, where medium UDP traffic sometimes causes a problem with the clock > timer. Packets stop flowing, calls to nanosleep() never return, etc. I > have watchdogd enabled, so the system ends up resetting on its own. Without > that, it would just sit in a half-frozen state indefinitely. The machine is > an old Dell Studio 540s, and I've seen the problem on FreeBSD 7, 8 and 9, > i386 and amd64. I assumed it was just a problem with my motherboard since > nobody else has ever reported a similar problem, and it only resets once or > twice a month, so it doesn't really affect me. Neither disabling MSI nor > using a different timecounter seems to help. > I have the same problem on a new ASUS A78M-A MB. Transfer is really fast (300+ GB files) then poof. Generally, I stay away from RealTek, replacing my network interfaces with Intel, but on A78M-A I don't much choice. > re0: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xfebff000-0xfebfffff,0xfdff0000-0xfdffffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci3 > re0: MSI count : 1 > re0: MSI-X count : 2 > re0: attempting to allocate 1 MSI-X vectors (2 supported) > msi: routing MSI-X IRQ 259 to local APIC 0 vector 58 > re0: using IRQ 259 for MSI-X > re0: Using 1 MSI-X message > re0: Chip rev. 0x3c000000 > re0: MAC rev. 0x00400000 > miibus0: on re0 > rgephy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 > rgephy0: OUI 0x00e04c, model 0x0011, rev. 2 > rgephy0: none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 10baseT-FDX-flow, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseTX-FDX-flow, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, 1000baseT-FDX-flow, 1000baseT-FDX-flow-master, auto, auto-flow > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 18:51:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDB853A9; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9776F1280; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.191]) by ltcfislmsgpa07.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s1KIpkWF003013 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:51:46 -0600 Received: from THEMADHATTER (10.242.181.54) by smarthost.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.191) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.174.1; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:51:45 -0600 From: Sender: Devin Teske To: , References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: System freezes up during long-running ZFS disk activity Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 10:51:42 -0800 Message-ID: <10c801cf2e6c$cc6599f0$6530cdd0$@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQHrqfQ7eHdjJ596bEV3StGCI6cbhJqFgwoA Content-Language: en-us X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87, 1.0.14, 0.0.0000 definitions=2014-02-20_07:2014-02-20,2014-02-20,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: dteske@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:51:54 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Christian Campbell [mailto:dcamp@alumni.ufl.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:07 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: System freezes up during long-running ZFS disk activity > > I recently installed 9.2-RELEASE-p3 on a Dell Precision T5400. I'm using ZFS > filesystem version: 5, ZFS storage pool version: features support (5000). The > pool was imported from a previous 9.2 box on which it worked without issue. > > I don't know if my problem is ZFS-related, but my ZFS use is why I noticed it and > I seem to be able to reproduce it reliably. Every so often, from minutes to > hours, my computer will freeze up while ZFS has been busy. This happens > during a resilver, a scrub, and a long-running process reading millions of files > from the pool. When it freezes, all output and input > freezes: tasks like zpool iostat -v 1 or top stop updating their output, whether on > the console or an ssh terminal over Ethernet. Pressing keys does not garner a > response.* Sometimes a freeze lasts minutes and then proceeds on its own. > Sometimes it goes on for hours. An action that typically, but not always, jogs it > is unplugging the USB keyboard -- the disk activity resumes immediately, and > any queued keyboard input immediately plays out whether on the console or > over ssh. Lastly, my ssh terminal (PuTTY) will stay connected for hours during a > freeze-up, *i.e.* the TCP circuit is not closed or timed out, as opposed to > closing pretty quickly after the server is powered off. > > In all cases, the system clock lags by the sum of the durations of the freezes. > > * During an initial resilver, I noticed that pressing a key such as Ctrl on the USB > keyboard would jog it, but pressing Ctrl or other keys doesn't jog my process of > long-running IO activity. But in all cases, even when unplugging and replugging > the USB keyboard doesn't jog it, Ctrl-Alt-Del prompts an orderly shutdown. > > Debugging advise is very welcome! > [Devin Teske] I had this exact same problem on a Dell 1U F1DH server. I didn't send any e-mail to the mailing lists, because I feared I was going crazy. Of course, it's been 30 days since I had that problem... if I try to remember what it was... it was either the bad SATA port (which had loose soldering), or it was the drive which said SATA port had fubar'd (putting that drive into another system saw the same thing happen in said new system). So what I did was rsync all the data off that drive to another one (and yes, because I had to "jog" the system to get it to be responsive, in the same exact situation you describe above) it took a very _very_ long time. But... once I got off of that drive everything looked much much better. I also found other ways to jog it were Alt+FN, and even the occasional ping would jog it too. It appeared to be interrupt driven in some way. Might I suggest that you have a drive acting up in your pool. -- Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 19:06:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE7026D9 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 19:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0D51374 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 19:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A22C17029; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 09:06:08 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <5306521F.3050505@hdk5.net> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 09:06:07 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Instability in re driver? References: <201402200339.UAA09587@mail.lariat.net> In-Reply-To: <201402200339.UAA09587@mail.lariat.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 19:06:15 -0000 Brett Glass wrote: > Everyone: > > We've been experiencing occasional crashes on heavily loaded machines > that have Realtek gigabit Ethernet ports built into their motherboards. > This evening, at a time of peak usage, one of the machines showed the > log messages > > Feb 19 18:44:14 server kernel: re0: watchdog timeout > Feb 19 18:44:14 server kernel: re0: link state changed to > DOWN > Feb 19 18:44:18 server kernel: re0: link state changed to UP > > even though we did not take the port down or up. A few minutes later, > the entire machine locked up solid and required a power cycle. > > Here are the boot time messages from the same server (as I rebooted it > following the crash): > > Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: re0: B/C/CP/D/DP/E/F PCIe Gigabit E > thernet> port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem > 0xfeadf000-0xfeadffff,0xfdefc000-0xfdefffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 > Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: re0: Using 1 MSI-X message > Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: re0: Chip rev. 0x28000000 > Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: re0: MAC rev. 0x00000000 > Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: miibus0: on re0 > Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: rgephy0: 1000BASE-T media interfa > ce> PHY 1 on miibus0 > Feb 19 19:08:22 server kernel: rgephy0: none, 10baseT, > 10baseT-FDX, 10baseT-FDX-flow > , 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseTX-FDX-flow, 1000baseT, > 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000base > T-FDX-master, 1000baseT-FDX-flow, 1000baseT-FDX-flow-master, auto, > auto-flow > > This problem is occurring on several servers built with the same > motherboard/chipset. Are there known bugs, hangs, or memory leaks that > might have led to this condition? Are there recent fixes which address > it? (The machines that are crashing are all running the latest security > patch level of FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE.) > > --Brett Glass > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ########## Aloha, I have 3 servers and 2 desktops (All FreeBSD various versions) ( 10 cards) with Trend Net ( re0 ) Real tech 8110 /1000 and 2 cards built on mobo. I have not experienced this failure in 5 years of moderate service. However, I did have a hardware issue that caused what you described. There were capacitors that swelled up on the board. You may want to look for something strange like that. It was a few years back in my case. Al ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 19:20:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5E2EE57 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 19:20:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6811F1507 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 19:20:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WGZAv-0002Xg-TS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:20:49 +0100 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:20:49 +0100 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:20:49 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: Trying to set up wireless networking Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 19:20:23 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net User-Agent: XPN/1.2.6 (Street Spirit ; Linux) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 19:20:55 -0000 Waitman Gobble wrote: > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: > >> This is a fresh installation of 10.0-RELEASE (amd64). >> >> Despite following the relevant section in the handbook, I can't seem to >> get wireless networking (at home) set up properly. >> >> The router is on 192.168.1.1, using WEP (yes, I know) and I am trying to >> give FreeBSD a fixed IP address of 192.168.1.3. >> >> Here is the output of ifconfig wlan0: >> >> wlan0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 >> ether 0c:ee:e6:80:ed:52 >> inet 192.168.1.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 >> inet6 fe80::eee:e6ff:fe80:ed52%wlan0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 >> nd6 options=29 >> media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet MCS mode 11ng >> status: associated >> ssid daddysnetwork channel 7 (2442 MHz 11g ht/20) bssid >> 00:24:01:c6:d7:c4 >> regdomain 101 indoor ecm authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey 1 >> wepkey 1:104-bit txpower 20 bmiss 7 scanvalid 60 protmode CTS >> ampdulimit 64k ampdudensity 4 shortgi wme burst >> >> But when I try, for example, to ping 8.8.8.8 (Google's public DNS), all >> packets are lost. >> >> What am I doing wrong? What other information should I provide? >> > > > hi, did you try: >> route add default 192.168.1.1 > Thanks for the reply. It gives the response: add net default: gateway 192.168.1.1 fib 0: route already in table From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 20:19:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97D4090D for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:19:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta005.mxout.tch.inty.net [91.221.169.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 527621A73 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:19:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (unknown [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mdfmta005.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F9418D0D7 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:12:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mdfmta004.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta004.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D88AC4072 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:12:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mdfmta004.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta004.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834D8AC406C; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:12:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.254.1] (unknown [80.177.21.188]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mdfmta004.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:12:25 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <530661A6.1030606@sliderule.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:12:22 +0000 From: Steve Burton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions , Steve Burton Subject: iSCSI Backing store Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDF-HostID: 17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:19:15 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to familiarize myself with the iSCSI implementation in FreeBSD 10 REL. I have made a target containing two LUNs which are backed by two files on my test server (redundant PC). This all worked well though it took ages to make the files using dd. dd if=/dev/zero of=/targets/target0-0 bs=512 count=31250000 and /etc/ctld.conf is: portal-group pg0 { discovery-auth-group no-authentication listen 0.0.0.0 listen [::] } target iqn.2012-06.com.example:target0 { auth-group no-authentication portal-group pg0 lun 0 { path /targets/target0-0 } lun 1 { path /targets/target0-1 } } My first question is, is there a better and quicker way to make the backing store files? My second question relates to making iSCSI LUNs using a disk volume. I have a second (empty) hard drive. Is it possible to just use the disk as backing store for iSCSI? Any and all advice appreciated. Steve. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 20:42:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E98928F for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:42:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BBAD1CFF for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:42:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s1KKgfXK098927 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:42:41 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s1KKgfXK098927 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s1KKgfXK098927; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <530668C0.1070902@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:42:40 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFCE User Switching References: <20140220123026.5d10a4ea@X220.alogt.com> <1392898096.682.39.camel@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <1392898096.682.39.camel@archlinux> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KPtrHR2pANSMmb65ak0fPo6eOxK3KmfCe" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:42:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --KPtrHR2pANSMmb65ak0fPo6eOxK3KmfCe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 20/02/2014 12:08, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 12:30 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: >> If you only want to start new programs under a different account, just= >> use su in an xterm. >=20 > Isn't for FreeBSD something like e.g. > xhost + > needed, assumed the OP want's to run a GUI app by another account? For > Linux it is. Please do not propagate the advice to use 'xhost +'. It's a really bad idea[*], along the lines of 'just chmod everything to world writable' -- letting just anyone connect to your X screen means that it becomes trivially easy for an attacker to snoop on anything you're doing including getting the text of any passwords you type in, etc. etc. Read, mark, learn and inwardly digest the xauth(1) man page, for learning how to grant the minimum necessary privilege is the first step towards righteous security. Matthew [*] Especially if your X server is network accessible, as it usually is by default. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --KPtrHR2pANSMmb65ak0fPo6eOxK3KmfCe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJTBmjBXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkAT7lkP+wcYmJfd5nKVUqRwLAgu30Wl vrLOgDpzWpcmILyrt9KJAdMx5Bxdec8PpNDr8jdL28OhuYMTaAoqenjOru/+XXkN Dx2uUkSTwzaxALHVURPx60IBms3aAwxX1yV7WzCJ6bxXBXNLemyPRG7JNzuwFTwo uz2TabewgaWS+mNak+1+kGX8bsroaEnHxKrz39ptELFl7FbAhbqlvipu5aOyYIW2 DUF+2Tu/4Tnmlr0blylSiSh2AlWloQ7+h5EKacoRBWCM/hK3rkJami/Pj/+ckOsN S385AVMM1YuKbdWx211GABKgELwyV8nyvsAP4FnByijtKqPqt0Nrm0b1kptOQzaz L2+w51tSKu1kJkk/FYpblZvKzNdBHLgOk5iHqD8zsnv/CDsSYr0dBNv/mZYUM7n3 H3kplJvC/93lTjrn22nAvcuTv2WXGdWXsLpBnMp5IsjfyP0Y96HdxorOZKeKX5OW gy+DLA3W/HjuY19xVjWgMKmIW7cCrIu3bk2IfGeTZwp9b3dVSAUp5ru+1V2y5NZi BAak86g1nXdJMu69bTf+tAoAw7I//zKDHBAm4HBglrbmorsa78b3JmgpBF9UDTtk Azhi24NQkh4m/YWWan4JaXiMO+VYxCS7dvlucwQt3GRkkiGGSwibW1e7JsV6+L3F Ud1aXOSauT56jGI7wYSt =Rgpx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KPtrHR2pANSMmb65ak0fPo6eOxK3KmfCe-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 20:45:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DC7C3BD for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:45:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABD671D24 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [172.17.17.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s1KKjQlI091780 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:45:26 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.7/8.14.6) with ESMTP id s1KKjQ9k049985 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:45:26 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.8/8.14.7/Submit) id s1KKjQlu049984; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:45:26 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:45:26 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Steve Burton Subject: Re: iSCSI Backing store Message-ID: <20140220204526.GE80443@dan.emsphone.com> References: <530661A6.1030606@sliderule.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <530661A6.1030606@sliderule.demon.co.uk> X-OS: FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.1 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (email2.allantgroup.com [172.17.19.78]); Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:45:26 -0600 (CST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on email2.allantgroup.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:45:29 -0000 In the last episode (Feb 20), Steve Burton said: > I'm trying to familiarize myself with the iSCSI implementation in FreeBSD > 10 REL. I have made a target containing two LUNs which are backed by two > files on my test server (redundant PC). This all worked well though it > took ages to make the files using dd. > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/targets/target0-0 bs=512 count=31250000 > > My first question is, is there a better and quicker way to make the > backing store files? A 512-byte blocksize is suboptimal; you're spending most of your time just processing the read/write syscalls at that size. There isn't much benefit to using a blocksize over 64k, but using 1m does make it easy to calculate the count for large volumes :) > My second question relates to making iSCSI LUNs using a disk volume. I > have a second (empty) hard drive. Is it possible to just use the disk as > backing store for iSCSI? I don't see why not. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 21:21:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 565817F7 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:21:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta010.mxout.tbr.inty.net [91.221.168.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1364A11E5 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mdfmta010.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta010.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9E86F8C3E; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:15:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mdfmta010.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta010.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4396F8832; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:15:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.254.1] (unknown [80.177.21.188]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mdfmta010.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:15:36 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <5306708D.6090001@sliderule.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:15:57 +0000 From: Steve Burton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Nelson Subject: Re: iSCSI Backing store References: <530661A6.1030606@sliderule.demon.co.uk> <20140220204526.GE80443@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20140220204526.GE80443@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDF-HostID: 3 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:21:34 -0000 On 20/02/2014 20:45, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Feb 20), Steve Burton said: >> I'm trying to familiarize myself with the iSCSI implementation in FreeBSD >> 10 REL. I have made a target containing two LUNs which are backed by two >> files on my test server (redundant PC). This all worked well though it >> took ages to make the files using dd. >> >> dd if=/dev/zero of=/targets/target0-0 bs=512 count=31250000 >> >> My first question is, is there a better and quicker way to make the >> backing store files? > > A 512-byte blocksize is suboptimal; you're spending most of your time just > processing the read/write syscalls at that size. There isn't much benefit > to using a blocksize over 64k, but using 1m does make it easy to calculate > the count for large volumes :) > >> My second question relates to making iSCSI LUNs using a disk volume. I >> have a second (empty) hard drive. Is it possible to just use the disk as >> backing store for iSCSI? > > I don't see why not. > > I didn't see why not either but so far I can't see how :) Steve. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 22:29:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BADD9593 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 22:29:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x22b.google.com (mail-qc0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A08F1808 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 22:29:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id x3so4506063qcv.30 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:29:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=AsPH5K2nqp4Vv2UTG5HOOIZ3NkhcWHVttjhFpnOJHdc=; b=y3ZXgvnWqaadl8Kn2fRkg9NyMPpRBVVpjkMGVyZfjY+bS2Dd60PBZbe1yQn3ytIJY0 tmLOMN7N3R7j9uL/8S2Ri59UdeGMIrJLhS4kdbZVl14gPm7X8e78Ebdqqf8Ipm/D0c1U M6Y3x5EtIDplb3lKTcJZi9Z6yqJNqyGFUDCVjBYzzCtz9xvHfk/TfMMc0QQVwC2guxbh rIgJ7ffMd8SWKAK39hvSk2pHfjKksse74mfRpOzqq/cM/oOeW/tD1dQr1bxOh/GvTrYW lgosN53kuCOT83qlHt4o3pTVNd0tgjv28ubGbNgI8mxdprAurs9hUbo5PSKb1gbZ2NbZ wpiQ== X-Received: by 10.140.105.69 with SMTP id b63mr4530270qgf.36.1392935375191; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:29:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from lumiwa.farms.net ([64.223.232.135]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id k61sm9579571qge.12.2014.02.20.14.29.34 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:29:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 17:29:25 -0500 From: Ajtim To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: polkit Message-ID: <20140220172925.1bf6f6f6@lumiwa.farms.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 22:29:36 -0000 Hi! I try to install/update KDE to KDE 4.12 on FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE (amd64) and it stopped: CCLD cancel ITMRG org.freedesktop.policykit.examples.pkexec.policy gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/src/examples' gmake[5]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/src' gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/src' gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/src' Making all in docs gmake[4]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/docs' Making all in man gmake[5]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/docs/man' /usr/local/bin/xsltproc -nonet --stringparam man.base.url.for.relative.links /usr/local/share/gtk-doc/html/polkit-1/ --xinclude http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl polkit.xml file:///usr/local/share/xml/catalog.ports:1: parser error : Start tag expected, '<' not found PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD Entity Resolution XML Catalog V1.0//EN" ^ I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl warning: failed to load external entity "http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl" cannot parse http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl gmake[5]: *** [polkit.8] Error 4 gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/docs/man' gmake[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/docs' gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105' gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105' *** Error code 1 Stop. make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/sysutils/polkit *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/ports/sysutils/polkit ===>>> make failed for sysutils/polkit ===>>> Aborting update ===>>> Update for polkit-0.105_1 failed ===>>> Aborting update Mitja --- http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 22:46:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E845B17B; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 22:46:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B400C1996; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 22:46:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741F217029; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:46:57 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <530685E0.601@hdk5.net> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:46:56 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: Semi-urgent: Disable NTP replies? References: <2505.1392764000@server1.tristatelogic.com> <5303FCBE.3060106@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <5303FCBE.3060106@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 22:46:59 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 18/02/2014 22:53, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: >> So, um, I've had to put in a new stopgap ipfw rule, just to stop these >> bloody &^%$#@ NTP reply packets from leaving my server, but what is >> that Right Way to solve this problem? I'm guessing that there's >> something I need to add to my /etc/ntp.conf file in order to tell >> my local ntpd to simply not accept incoming _query_ packets unlees >> they are coming from my own LAN, yes? But obviously, I still need it >> to accept incoming ntp _reply_ packets or else my machine will never >> know the correct time. >> >> Sorry. The answer I'm looking for is undoubtedly listed in an FAQ >> someplace, but I am very much on edge right at the moment... because >> I was basiaclly being DDoS'd by all of this stupid NTP traffic... and >> thus I'm seeking a quick answer. > > Yep. This is the latest scumbag trick: sending spoofed packets to ntpd > and using it as an amplifier to do a DDoS against some victim. > > What you need to do is described here: > > http://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-14:02.ntpd.asc > > but in summary your actions should be one or more of: > > * upgrade to a version of ntpd that does not respond to 'monlist' > queries. Any -RELEASE or -STABLE version post the publication of > that advisory should do the trick, or you can use ntpd-devel from > ports. > > * Firewall off your ntpd instances from accessibility from the > internet. > > * Modify your /etc/ntp.conf to disallow most foreign connectivity to > your ntpd instances. > > The config changes required for that last are something along the > following lines, to be added to /etc/ntp.conf: > > restrict -4 default nomodify nopeer noquery notrap > restrict -6 default nomodify nopeer noquery notrap > restrict 127.0.0.1 > restrict -6 ::1 > restrict 127.127.1.0 > > If you can swing it, > > restrict -4 default ignore > restrict -6 default ignore > > would be even better, but you will also need to add lines permitting > appropriate traffic to and from timeservers on the network by the > servers' IP number. This does mean you can't use the ntp.org time > server pools without significant faffing around, as the ntp.org > timeservers are pooled ang you tend to get a different IP > > Cheers, > > Matthew > ################## Thanks to Matthew, Poly and all who posted the fixes for the NTP attack issue. I had one old mail server that seemed to attract the attack and the fix worked. I switched from the pool 1. 2. 3. ntp servers to a military one, and a local university of Hawaii one. I have used them for a while already on several of my desk tops as a check boot time.Both are clean. Again Thanks, ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 23:05:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A8B1828 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:05:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1364C1B7C for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:05:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [172.17.17.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s1KN5s8h094675 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Feb 2014 17:05:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.7/8.14.6) with ESMTP id s1KN5spG080924 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Feb 2014 17:05:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.8/8.14.7/Submit) id s1KN5scZ080923; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 17:05:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 17:05:54 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Steve Burton Subject: Re: iSCSI Backing store Message-ID: <20140220230554.GF80443@dan.emsphone.com> References: <530661A6.1030606@sliderule.demon.co.uk> <20140220204526.GE80443@dan.emsphone.com> <5306708D.6090001@sliderule.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5306708D.6090001@sliderule.demon.co.uk> X-OS: FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.1 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (email2.allantgroup.com [172.17.19.78]); Thu, 20 Feb 2014 17:05:54 -0600 (CST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on email2.allantgroup.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:05:57 -0000 In the last episode (Feb 20), Steve Burton said: > On 20/02/2014 20:45, Dan Nelson wrote: > > In the last episode (Feb 20), Steve Burton said: > >> I'm trying to familiarize myself with the iSCSI implementation in > >> FreeBSD 10 REL. I have made a target containing two LUNs which are > >> backed by two files on my test server (redundant PC). This all worked > >> well though it took ages to make the files using dd. > >> > >> My second question relates to making iSCSI LUNs using a disk volume. I > >> have a second (empty) hard drive. Is it possible to just use the disk > >> as backing store for iSCSI? > > > > I don't see why not. > > I didn't see why not either but so far I can't see how :) You haven't said what error message you are getting when you specify a raw device, though... "path /dev/ada1", for example. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 23:27:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26FBCFCF for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:27:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta005.mxout.tch.inty.net [91.221.169.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAC361D0F for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:27:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mdfmta005.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta005.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C2B18CC15; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:27:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mdfmta005.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta005.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADB618C98B; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:27:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.254.1] (unknown [80.177.21.188]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mdfmta005.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:27:38 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <53068F69.5020502@sliderule.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:27:37 +0000 From: Steve Burton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Nelson Subject: Re: iSCSI Backing store References: <530661A6.1030606@sliderule.demon.co.uk> <20140220204526.GE80443@dan.emsphone.com> <5306708D.6090001@sliderule.demon.co.uk> <20140220230554.GF80443@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20140220230554.GF80443@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDF-HostID: 18 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:27:42 -0000 On 20/02/2014 23:05, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Feb 20), Steve Burton said: >> On 20/02/2014 20:45, Dan Nelson wrote: >>> In the last episode (Feb 20), Steve Burton said: >>>> I'm trying to familiarize myself with the iSCSI implementation in >>>> FreeBSD 10 REL. I have made a target containing two LUNs which are >>>> backed by two files on my test server (redundant PC). This all worked >>>> well though it took ages to make the files using dd. >>>> >>>> My second question relates to making iSCSI LUNs using a disk volume. I >>>> have a second (empty) hard drive. Is it possible to just use the disk >>>> as backing store for iSCSI? >>> >>> I don't see why not. >> >> I didn't see why not either but so far I can't see how :) > > You haven't said what error message you are getting when you specify a raw > device, though... "path /dev/ada1", for example. > Dan, good point. I added lun 2 { path /dev/ada1 } to the portal group and started ctld. The following was in /var/log/messages Feb 20 23:13:01 files kernel: cfiscsi_ioctl_handoff: new connection from iqn.1991-05.com.microsoft:titan (192.168.254.1) to iqn.2012-06.com.example:target0 Feb 20 23:13:01 files kernel: (0:2:0:0): MODE SENSE(6). CDB: 1a 00 1c 00 c0 00 Feb 20 23:13:01 files kernel: (0:2:0:0): Tag: 0xcc621100, Type: 1 Feb 20 23:13:01 files kernel: (0:2:0:0): CTL Status: SCSI Error Feb 20 23:13:01 files kernel: (0:2:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition Feb 20 23:13:01 files kernel: (0:2:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 (Invalid field in CDB) Feb 20 23:13:01 files kernel: (0:2:0:0): Command byte 2 bit 5 is invalid Feb 20 23:13:01 files kernel: (0:2:0:1): MODE SENSE(6). CDB: 1a 00 1c 00 c0 00 Feb 20 23:13:01 files kernel: (0:2:0:1): Tag: 0xdc621100, Type: 1 Feb 20 23:13:01 files kernel: (0:2:0:1): CTL Status: SCSI Error Feb 20 23:13:01 files kernel: (0:2:0:1): SCSI Status: Check Condition Feb 20 23:13:01 files kernel: (0:2:0:1): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 (Invalid field in CDB) Feb 20 23:13:01 files kernel: (0:2:0:1): Command byte 2 bit 5 is invalid I googled the line 'files kernel: (0:2:0:0): Command byte 2 bit 5 is invalid' and found a recommendation in a FreeNAS forum that I should run 'camcontrol rescan all' so I did and it sprang into life. Problem solved! thanks for your help. Steve. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 20 23:43:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7780D3D9 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:43:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-x233.google.com (mail-qg0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 371091F72 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:43:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id q108so5662949qgd.10 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:43:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JQDrSGaWZtWu/zze25bes4IadyKsat28xMVuNxIUmFw=; b=TFrWBmrS4a1aygpJRFDn09GBkXH9ndhtI+OjfBTmuGK7zCYwsn7GF9Z99M2dKTVP5D /hlIpMqr+p//kWqJ4lVCw68HHdYTRFu5ESScaGCC+GiBnbYb4jDuqgKuqzcm4lv4eRmA 1CxuxMStB6sOgLqzqqSeT1DY10Hrw/DuzC6AWzAs1UL+EXl1sehnpjQB86lgdqHsJ43V yUCNsh/cLDcdgRoPWGkQXdEFRVtmfZZYMykTUM9kSXPbR6QU9UeJq0J3e3Sa6CB7qN93 Ej6ljwrbLXZqKkSKWRgGcgCzNk72wZGDYGv+yo5QrxTp6Tib4Nmw63vq8VEPE/vYYqXT WBCQ== X-Received: by 10.140.50.46 with SMTP id r43mr5269533qga.22.1392939798336; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:43:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from lumiwa.farms.net ([64.223.232.135]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 3sm16474527qan.15.2014.02.20.15.43.17 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:43:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:43:08 -0500 From: Ajtim To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: sysutils/upower Message-ID: <20140220184308.4a3a7187@lumiwa.farms.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:43:19 -0000 Anothewr problem with docbook on FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE (amd64): 1 warning generated. CCLD upowerd gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/upower/work/upower-0.9.7/src' gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/upower/work/upower-0.9.7/src' gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/upower/work/upower-0.9.7/src' Making all in doc gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/upower/work/upower-0.9.7/doc' Making all in man gmake[4]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/upower/work/upower-0.9.7/doc/man' /usr/local/bin/xsltproc -nonet http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl upower.xml /usr/local/bin/xsltproc -nonet http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl upowerd.xml /usr/local/bin/xsltproc -nonet http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl UPower.xml file:///usr/local/share/xml/catalog.ports:1: parser error : Start tag expected, '<' not found PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD Entity Resolution XML Catalog V1.0//EN" ^ file:///usr/local/share/xml/catalog.ports:1: parser error : Start tag expected, '<' not found PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD Entity Resolution XML Catalog V1.0//EN" ^ I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl warning: failed to load external entity "http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl" cannot parse http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl warning: failed to load external entity "http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl" cannot parse http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl file:///usr/local/share/xml/catalog.ports:1: parser error : Start tag expected, '<' not found PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD Entity Resolution XML Catalog V1.0//EN" ^ I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl warning: failed to load external entity "http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl" cannot parse http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl gmake[4]: *** [upower.1] Error 4 gmake[4]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... gmake[4]: *** [upowerd.8] Error 4 gmake[4]: *** [UPower.7] Error 4 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/upower/work/upower-0.9.7/doc/man' gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/upower/work/upower-0.9.7/doc' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/upower/work/upower-0.9.7' gmake[1]: *** [all] Error 2 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/upower/work/upower-0.9.7' ===> Compilation failed unexpectedly. Try to set MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE=yes and rebuild before reporting the failure to the maintainer. *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/ports/sysutils/upower ===>>> make failed for sysutils/upower ===>>> Aborting update Mitja --- http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 21 07:28:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EE0E69 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 07:28:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm22-vm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DB681A52 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 07:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [216.39.60.165] by nm22.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2014 07:25:58 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.98] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2014 07:25:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2014 07:25:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1392967558; bh=SAVZJumGh+o9n7mr9LC001KsQF7knFCESvU9i/VslMU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:Date:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:References:Subject; b=1W+QrjOpdCWFBndNjXvXdUzox6LYHUUgWA9ZITOuPA6eXVlzebScDJEnDF/1FF4mbmkwYR19ycV7gZqLxtvuOrbqwjp8C/NJSgZ8eVDrpqhIw2ykfal1o+fFLKANo1C2XRkWtqYfgphJAAmgvBVVLatj7OopVg3KajF74Dzdqt8= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 713110.17643.bm@smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Message-ID: <713110.17643.bm@smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 07:25:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: s_ixXjQVM1k7vf5U.ArsgQiY1UhnSzc.RFPzW.Kg4IkZTwg FLENxiDmVELjbmZA.px2XuYaNsHDIaRfp0hwOEGdwbV2DB318cYSdj_Rls0Q xk50WaqxvzLhdBkq5Jr8ve71IqO6vzqIweaG2LFJ9AOv8QaonvMyN9URUTnZ D.wjWNNfNFz5XDc6nRRxMINO0NU8iL3AO1cYTNANnyJ8nFG0R1a_FHQkq_aM 1fORe9hhp4i9jl_yxSpagfgmJz9XQcfESqGAEaRG3VAwHFdDaL4GbfVsQFIS 4HcAl3kfXBIjwxxF7CTjbT0HnnxxVebBSuiXKK3WanU0NsL2T720i3Z1PiIF goYM_dhsaO33r9Aat0olMYTt1cdV3d7pczMeShKI_PQZ9VvwHhYZ1fpxCSwJ Xr7vwRxwCMd2Zok8X5XiMtD.gfJGX7UrE8yh41lCZXwYYL04jezbGUO0se8_ x.j75prmgmD7ZcCXDzHrW.4QK6s4abvTxmBzuVmhCr.QoexZupNNWqbCb_HI Ubc2qr_t8Zxpnu.cZpsCAKFuN_zOJl2i3S0Wy7Q2WopEYiw8qB_E_fA1JJP4 lBiVj2brsBrs_jR8njz70h0hD X-Yahoo-SMTP: Kz_aW1.swBBYof3zAD7.RWzXz9ZAQVDMml1VADsbgPT4Kq79LC0- X-Rocket-Received: from localhost (mueller6724@96.28.178.143 with plain [98.138.31.74]) by smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 2014 07:25:58 +0000 UTC From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <201402200339.UAA09587@mail.lariat.net> <20140220162701.GD80443@dan.emsphone.com> <1392915576.67604.10.camel@btw.pki2.com> Subject: Re: Instability in re driver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 07:28:32 -0000 from Dennis Glatting: > I have the same problem on a new ASUS A78M-A MB. Transfer is really fast > (300+ GB files) then poof. Generally, I stay away from RealTek, > replacing my network interfaces with Intel, but on A78M-A I don't much > choice. Are you sure it's Realtek's fault as opposed to a bug in FreeBSD's re driver? I have two computers with MSI motherboards, each with Realtek 8111E Ethernet on-motherboard. re works fine on the first, recognizes the second but fails to connect. Same story with re driver in OpenBSD and DragonFlyBSD running from USB. NetBSD works fine with both, not only current but going back at least as far as 5.2-STABLE. So does Linux. Not sure about other versions of Realtek 8111E-related chip. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 21 09:20:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 818AC890 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:20:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2474714CD for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:20:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s1L9JwT4003514; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 01:19:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dg17@penx.com) Subject: Re: Instability in re driver? From: Dennis Glatting To: Thomas Mueller In-Reply-To: <713110.17643.bm@smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <201402200339.UAA09587@mail.lariat.net> <20140220162701.GD80443@dan.emsphone.com> <1392915576.67604.10.camel@btw.pki2.com> <713110.17643.bm@smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 01:19:58 -0800 Message-ID: <1392974398.67604.23.camel@btw.pki2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner-ID: s1L9JwT4003514 X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: dg17@penx.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: dg17@penx.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:20:12 -0000 On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 07:25 +0000, Thomas Mueller wrote: > from Dennis Glatting: > > > I have the same problem on a new ASUS A78M-A MB. Transfer is really fast > > (300+ GB files) then poof. Generally, I stay away from RealTek, > > replacing my network interfaces with Intel, but on A78M-A I don't much > > choice. > > Are you sure it's Realtek's fault as opposed to a bug in FreeBSD's re driver? > Nope. All I can say, over the past couple of years, I have had consistent problems with re under FreeBSD and zip with Intel. That same MB (A78M-M) under CentOS 6.5 had problems with the RealTek too. That system is powered off for the next couple of days and I am unsure of current settings. IIRC, I had better luck with FreeBSD than CentOS with this MB. I have another MB, a MSI 990FXA-GD80, that didn't like the RealTek (8111E) under CentOS 6.5 so I plugged in an Intel. Worked fine then. > I have two computers with MSI motherboards, each with Realtek 8111E Ethernet on-motherboard. > > re works fine on the first, recognizes the second but fails to connect. > > Same story with re driver in OpenBSD and DragonFlyBSD running from USB. > > NetBSD works fine with both, not only current but going back at least as far as 5.2-STABLE. So does Linux. > > Not sure about other versions of Realtek 8111E-related chip. > > Tom > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 21 10:46:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7AC0570E for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 10:46:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from owm.eumx.net (eumx.net [91.82.101.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30F721CA1 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 10:46:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=eumx.net; h=date:from:to :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :in-reply-to; s=default; bh=47vIlw6NfmOtna+2rJrrDotGf+M=; b=Y2Fl fIITjVNWzQuhVzUxFDku/9KEGR3Hr58baSbCdmb1EobcISaQ3TcRdDf1bJoRmLnP LqcasTvUULZCu+2B/8NPoFSsDacu2fV8tsUQuTWn6lbOfPy6iDTHt8Hyre0tDd3Q iz6yzkLwukFDyW4qULRpxiPrzmxAdtGq/fOBSII= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=eumx.net; h=date:from:to :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :in-reply-to; q=dns; s=default; b=Etjw8hmyQsV+kqOsOdZFouCNqiJCFL BL3a0a7Ak4jE/UesG0YJhiNSwJ+IGQxoNBuap000QyUd5HorNuGXyIueNrdq3uOO DT4Z3B+99uhNuTr+2Gu2bSpRX4UENrIRnlwuHTeHsPEoBsJIwwYh0pnJrwuoju43 8tFzpTx7L6uM4= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:45:58 +0100 From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: polkit Message-ID: <20140221104557.GA9666@oslo.ath.cx> References: <20140220172925.1bf6f6f6@lumiwa.farms.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140220172925.1bf6f6f6@lumiwa.farms.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22.1-rc1 (2013-10-16) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 10:46:03 -0000 On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 05:29:25PM -0500, Ajtim wrote: > Hi! > > I try to install/update KDE to KDE 4.12 on FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE (amd64) > and it stopped: > > CCLD cancel > ITMRG org.freedesktop.policykit.examples.pkexec.policy > gmake[5]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/src/examples' gmake[5]: > Entering directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/src' > gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. gmake[5]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/src' gmake[4]: Leaving > directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/src' Making all > in docs gmake[4]: Entering directory > `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/docs' Making all in man > gmake[5]: Entering directory > `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/docs/man' /usr/local/bin/xsltproc > -nonet --stringparam > man.base.url.for.relative.links /usr/local/share/gtk-doc/html/polkit-1/ > --xinclude > http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl > polkit.xml file:///usr/local/share/xml/catalog.ports:1: parser error : > Start tag expected, '<' not found PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD Entity > Resolution XML Catalog V1.0//EN" ^ I/O error : Attempt to load network > entity > http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl > warning: failed to load external entity > "http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl" > cannot parse > http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl > gmake[5]: *** [polkit.8] Error 4 gmake[5]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/docs/man' gmake[4]: *** > [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[4]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/docs' gmake[3]: *** > [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105' gmake[2]: *** [all] > Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105' *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/sysutils/polkit > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > make: stopped in /usr/ports/sysutils/polkit > > ===>>> make failed for sysutils/polkit > ===>>> Aborting update > > ===>>> Update for polkit-0.105_1 failed > ===>>> Aborting update Remove "/usr/local/share/xml/catalog.ports" and rebuild your docbook ports. Worked for me! Maybe someone has a better solution! -- Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 21 11:15:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B80531F for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:15:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x22e.google.com (mail-qc0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8BB8108C for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:15:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f174.google.com with SMTP id x13so5621902qcv.33 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 03:15:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ad8dpF9O+CGGTwgpZRemJ+nb6Vwu1Xhs2C7Nac6xlZ4=; b=A7TVRqkKFFhCjSKlC1FjnJo0QuhFuM6B9qjDcfdjb3P/bJ7QeYF6E8sDpw0bziH1d7 ImzRNEFGfF+oQsPsQNvCnTED6fY3xSGVJFrFBHF26ypM0Jo2yF1uW7Xy1F78JTKPcoq2 HPV63z3g03PymvCJCuHBYguai4y5BQD15ru8Bj6a5Y7nhEjmye2z22IZ3gJp1dgY8xDV ecMyd9jo6+6IvletOc3k/Tzv+45icYZ1MrkFN3bNkM3moXdK64Zr20ANeScdIoW7ChIv sZ77JiHTttvgky7j0IG0UN6snaZQO1K7v/QnynMnvz10WT5P66ElIoMdsHjcis3CCFiz A5Xg== X-Received: by 10.224.137.5 with SMTP id u5mr9027505qat.12.1392981345012; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 03:15:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from lumiwa.farms.net ([64.223.232.135]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d7sm20996908qad.10.2014.02.21.03.15.43 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 21 Feb 2014 03:15:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 06:15:36 -0500 From: Ajtim To: "Herbert J. Skuhra" Subject: Re: polkit Message-ID: <20140221061536.2019821c@lumiwa.farms.net> In-Reply-To: <20140221104557.GA9666@oslo.ath.cx> References: <20140220172925.1bf6f6f6@lumiwa.farms.net> <20140221104557.GA9666@oslo.ath.cx> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:15:46 -0000 On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:45:58 +0100 "Herbert J. Skuhra" wrote: > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 05:29:25PM -0500, Ajtim wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I try to install/update KDE to KDE 4.12 on FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE > > (amd64) and it stopped: > > > > CCLD cancel > > ITMRG org.freedesktop.policykit.examples.pkexec.policy > > gmake[5]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/src/examples' > > gmake[5]: Entering directory > > `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/src' gmake[5]: > > Nothing to be done for `all-am'. gmake[5]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/src' gmake[4]: > > Leaving directory > > `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/src' Making all in > > docs gmake[4]: Entering directory > > `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/docs' Making all in > > man gmake[5]: Entering directory > > `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/docs/man' /usr/local/bin/xsltproc > > -nonet --stringparam > > man.base.url.for.relative.links /usr/local/share/gtk-doc/html/polkit-1/ > > --xinclude > > http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl > > polkit.xml file:///usr/local/share/xml/catalog.ports:1: parser > > error : Start tag expected, '<' not found PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD > > Entity Resolution XML Catalog V1.0//EN" ^ I/O error : Attempt to > > load network entity > > http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl > > warning: failed to load external entity > > "http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl" > > cannot parse > > http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl > > gmake[5]: *** [polkit.8] Error 4 gmake[5]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/docs/man' gmake[4]: > > *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[4]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105/docs' gmake[3]: *** > > [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105' gmake[2]: *** [all] > > Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.105' *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop. > > make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/sysutils/polkit > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop. > > make: stopped in /usr/ports/sysutils/polkit > > > > ===>>> make failed for sysutils/polkit > > ===>>> Aborting update > > > > ===>>> Update for polkit-0.105_1 failed > > ===>>> Aborting update > > Remove "/usr/local/share/xml/catalog.ports" and rebuild your docbook > ports. Worked for me! Maybe someone has a better solution! > > -- > Herbert > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Thank you very much. It works. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 12:01:43 -0000 > > Are you sure it's Realtek's fault as opposed to a bug in FreeBSD's re driver? from Dennis Glatting: > Nope. All I can say, over the past couple of years, I have had > consistent problems with re under FreeBSD and zip with Intel. > That same MB (A78M-M) under CentOS 6.5 had problems with the RealTek > too. That system is powered off for the next couple of days and I am > unsure of current settings. IIRC, I had better luck with FreeBSD than > CentOS with this MB. > I have another MB, a MSI 990FXA-GD80, that didn't like the RealTek > (8111E) under CentOS 6.5 so I plugged in an Intel. Worked fine then. My luck with re driver has been all-or-nothing. If it connected, no further problems with the driver. Otherwise, at least in FreeBSD, re produced memory instability after failing to connect, and I could get an unexpected, unprovoked system crash much later. So I added to /boot/loader.conf hint.re.0.disabled="1" But other motherboards with Ethernet recognized by re driver give different results; some may even fail in NetBSD but work with FreeBSD. I use DragonFlyBSD and OpenBSD dd'ed to USB stick only for test purposes; not sufficiently compatible with my hardware, especially the hard drive setup with GPT. 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Best regards Ms. Minakhi Skype - rudra.mishra7 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 21 19:14:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59C7F398 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 19:14:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from shrewd.pub.knigma.org (shrewd.ipv6.pub.knigma.org [IPv6:2001:8b0:b0:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2998127A for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 19:14:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shrewd.pub.knigma.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s1LJE1bR039303 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 19:14:02 GMT (envelope-from lists@knigma.org) Message-ID: <5307A579.5060503@knigma.org> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 19:14:01 +0000 From: Mark Knight User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: dummynet queues hanging Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (shrewd.pub.knigma.org [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 21 Feb 2014 19:14:02 +0000 (GMT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: markk@knigma.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 19:14:04 -0000 I'm trying to use Dummynet to throttle bandwidth at "peak" times. However my configuration seems to be behaving very oddly. Before I go too much further debugging this, can anyone see anything obviously wrong with my configuration? I have tried two similar configurations. The first works very reliably but doesn't make any attempt to distribute the available bandwidth between different flows: queue 40 config pipe 40 queue 5 mask src-ip 0xffffffff src-port 0xffff (this line is essentially redundant) pipe 40 config bw 600Kbit/s type QFQ queue 5 mask dst-ip 0xffffffff add 525 pipe 40 ip from any to any via em0 out In this second configuration I pass traffic through a queue first, rather than directly through the pipe. My end goal is to limit bandwidth to each host but to also try and distribute the available bandwidth fairly between the applications on each host. queue 40 config pipe 40 queue 5 mask src-ip 0xffffffff src-port 0xffff pipe 40 config bw 600Kbit/s type QFQ queue 5 mask dst-ip 0xffffffff add 525 queue 40 ip from any to any via em0 out When I switch to using the queue I start to see very odd behaviour when traffic levels increase. Typically after just a few minutes the scheduler or queues seem to get "stuck": mkn@shrewd$ sudo ipfw sched list 00040: 600.000 Kbit/s 0 ms burst 0 sched 40 type QFQ flags 0x1 256 buckets 1 active mask: 0x00 0x00000000/0x0000 -> 0xffffffff/0x0000 Children flowsets: 40 BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 23:51:24 -0000 Hi, I have an application (the "texmacs" text editor) that was running fine under 9.2, but when I upgraded to 10.0, its response time slowed down drastically. I am running the same binary in 9.2 and 10.0. Running truss on it, I see on 10.0 that it spends a lot of its time calling gettimeofday: gettimeofday({1393022478.199440 },0x0) = 0 (0x0) recvmsg(0x5,0x7fffffffce60,0x0,0x7fffffffce90,0x806aabd90,0x8080808080808080) ERR#35 'Resource temporarily unavailable' gettimeofday({1393022478.199545 },0x0) = 0 (0x0) recvmsg(0x5,0x7fffffffce60,0x0,0x7fffffffce90,0x804817730,0x8080808080808080) ERR#35 'Resource temporarily unavailable' recvmsg(0x5,0x7fffffffce60,0x0,0x7fffffffce90,0x804817730,0x8080808080808080) ERR#35 'Resource temporarily unavailable' This didn't happen in 9.2. Has something changed in 10.0 with respect to gettimeofday? Most importantly, what can I do about it? Thanks. Kostas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 05:38:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3647D89A for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 05:38:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm22-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.152]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E267312F8 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 05:38:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm22.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2014 05:36:18 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.42] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2014 05:36:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp110.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2014 05:36:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1393047378; bh=LtLJV04JYByQ7pGsfnmnz9lyd23eV/+/aevXtjtZrp8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=AWFOBM8PJYpiw70wF0+6K9rnGrkcYwdwvvh6QIcmkKAdumOitjhd15zsiZMkHV0qjKkPg7W2zw/UU3qFXPNdQVXCQNJ6yeUsm52eIZdEpFKCvgBYDiu6OR3c4L1ZCYrB+QKuemSjt6ad+1zuUI+UFdOxB1+56pNwkuUrsVX0moA= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 598378.98457.bm@smtp110.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: RbancY0VM1mkZz8gkmRhue.5ySKekydwf_RnjVNBN7y3ZUA vjnVy0wcSaIoH3K6D41zFmX2Z9xAGgAIVhH5m3mEyV4u6l9QvjZ3pdROLjqT VhdtVXyjFUtjiYbv99nzZ83dUY3Rr9J7M65VSziFMibEC4KdvM6QM_5WT_sm qNYHR_RwQnU_8r4iNJOfUPqxSmrmbJpSYzUmj2O8jaNRiZQDsQJzDEHvVcAS JzUR45RYT3M6pIcxfpcpxDhMamF1be35C77IciICMBfj0dPVnm2vYNOGOf4E 3r9fbl84AvE4rLnU67aIuYoG0uFCa3NIL6t83dMpno46V9qKaejWNRKCzRns knwU1lpXAxgRiysSIjJ92XeKfWMi_9RYZptaliocgjlh3VyiQOdMa267.rVm qNRz9_KOLCy61MfEuoz1zS41RedTq.V.p7sRu3bA4vIbl8_bXYoxdGPFL9zr e0RrffbIMvRrH4XvqtxZ0.cbqGfYepJ_vgI2NnZYeuDxkeyxkolxk0CW5B6s ff1BNh2AjPwT2GHeHfrjdNoALHHWrhWeM X-Yahoo-SMTP: Lb17xrCswBCUt20FcCYTColKJRTxG.7_FRVI3jjX X-Rocket-Received: from [10.54.102.64] (jeremiah.twidwell@166.147.99.57 with xymcookie [216.39.61.254]) by smtp110.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 2014 21:36:18 -0800 PST Subject: Idea to make package vulnerabilities not matter, along with third party software From: Jeremiah Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B329) Message-Id: <7934675E-6EAB-406A-90C4-61CDF901594F@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 23:36:11 -0600 To: "questions@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 05:38:18 -0000 The basics behind the idea is simple. I was going to tell openbsd, but they s= eem arrogant about security, whereas you all are honest... You can control your os, but you can't control vulnerabilities in third part= y packages or software, and you end up patching it all for them - or can you= simply make it not matter? Actually, you can. Most viruses require some form of vulnerability (also hac= king) to spread. The objective then for the operating system is to catch tho= se things in action and throw an error... For example, consider buffer overflows. What do they all have in common? So= me other process or dynamic library is accessing the memory spaces of proces= ses it shouldn't access. So all you need to do to limit most viruses is to r= un with that idea... It's access control, only on processes instead of the user. As examples of w= hat you can do with program acess control: -prevents memory problem vulnerabilities by maintaining a mapping of what pr= ocess creates and allocates, and so 'owns' segments or ram, heaps, pointers,= etc. all those vulnerabilities gone with just that one thing.=20 -you can validate data being passed into methods, for example making sure th= ey are the right data type and size -you can protect files to a whitelist open function, where only certain apps= have access. This gets easy by using a config file, which cannot be accesse= d by anything except the os, and further it can only be modified by a GUI ed= itor, not through a script, program, or command... (The next one ties in). B= y doing this you eliminate payloads of most malware -you can do the same access control as files with processes accessing the In= ternet. Back doors by themselves do not have a payload, but if you all do th= is right, a new firewall protecting process instead of ports with a whitelis= t/blackist is a much better firewall anyway.=20 -you know by your packages already what filed, directories, and sites they n= eed access to. So there you have a big edge in that you can automatically se= t these last two things up for the user.=20 -the above stops the majority, but more needs to be done -viruses spread. Memory residency doesn't matter if it can't attach to anyth= ing, which we may have already solved above. To know if a virus has infected= a package, if that package changed since its last install/update that is a d= ead give-away. You could also checksum it before it runs and compare with ei= ther a local file or your server.=20 -most viruses steal information. By default any program or executable (unles= s it was compiled by the user - but that doesn't mean you can't ac the file n= ame as an exe, etc). So by default anything you don't know in packages or po= rts has no file or network access, and further if it can't execute something= except a GUI, the user will be pretty suspicious. That will mitigate the va= st majority of risks.=20 -for hacking, a similar method can be employed. Basically what you have to d= o is you should know the socket, program, or is does something unique to mak= e a socket blow up into a root shell; for example. So what you do is if you c= an just catch that event(s), you've stopped hacking almost completely. But i= t's going to take a lot of memory and sys analysis... -now all that is left is what to do about applications that should have acce= ss to a file, but shouldn't be transmitting any of that data. That's the tou= gh one, but I'll leave it to you to see what you can come up with.=20 I had these ideas ever since 2005. I was going to do it on Linux at first; b= ut honestly that platform is a free for all and bad is more suitable. I thou= ght you all should be the ones... If it works well, patent immediately. If not, maybe it needs a little refine= ment. I haven't tested any of it, but the theory should hold.=20 If you need me to provide more information or explain further just let me kn= ow. I need a secure os at least, would be nice if you folks could do this.=20= Later, man.=20 - Jeremiah= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 07:30:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22FA06F6 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 07:30:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0073A1A8D for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 07:30:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WH72v-0007TI-N2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 23:30:49 -0800 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 23:30:49 -0800 (PST) From: sw2wolf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1393054249582-5888044.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <5307E64C.3040108@att.net> References: <5307E64C.3040108@att.net> Subject: Re: slowdown because of gettimeofday change between 9.2 and 10? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 08:21:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D389AC89 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 08:21:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yh0-x244.google.com (mail-yh0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c01::244]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9897F1E2F for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 08:21:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f68.google.com with SMTP id a41so1182843yho.3 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 00:21:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TMuGSYY6J1gYuboag7bvxiHjUEzfEYrMBEN1RnpaEZ0=; b=YGZQEEB9nPrJ8xe1Mrv8f3cqq5Ls26TekAMLv75fIw18XL7MwYME7t3EDMSFXy3ist 48z6//8CwUiuipyRv7IWuLb9anZei5gDVUj7DZ/OTghqysw5xppSi6QnzrIy1jbQTwfS XO6P+WiMt87KtAa2kWw1CbX1WcQihMV1z6Q/igaNXzSB3kKW9V9OB2hTU3QLAOj97dSM uv7yiYWOYSTpcGPgHxi3jDeKS3mFd3DAHCGDZwgiAoMt1JigH4DkI+5eAO1zhSI3eTd9 sVFIU52AdBReoXcXvxbj2HZcLhcOr5vr5cKqLTQEX+YWQ+PXSGwXUmWSROTKOk6cZRcr zrGQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.166.39 with SMTP id f27mr15846975yhl.117.1393057283707; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 00:21:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.170.214.212 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 00:21:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:51:23 +0330 Message-ID: Subject: IPSec From: Farzin Falahati To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 08:21:24 -0000 hello all, i wanna create an ipsec tunnel between my FreeBSD and a Cisco router. i have FreeBSD 9.2 with ipsec-tools 0.8.0. is it possible? you know i struggle to do it in FreeBSD 8.2 but unfortunately i can't do that. now i migrate to FreeBSD 9.2 and i heard that ipsec is changed to be more standard in it. so is it possible to create an ipsec tunnel between freebsd9.2 and a Cisco router or not? thanks in advance Farzin Falahati From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 08:41:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 282D0E0E for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 08:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0FF310A0 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 08:41:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.130.60] (helo=tiny-r255948) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WH89J-0003g8-SN; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:41:30 +0100 Received: from tiny-r255948 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny-r255948 (8.14.7/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s1M8fRK9001594; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:41:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny-r255948 (8.14.7/8.14.3/Submit) id s1M8fQWu001593; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:41:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny-r255948: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:41:26 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Farzin Falahati Subject: Re: IPSec Message-ID: <20140222084125.GA1567@tiny-r255948> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="DocE+STaALJfprDB" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r235646 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.130.60 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 08:41:33 -0000 --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit El día Saturday, February 22, 2014 a las 11:51:23AM +0330, Farzin Falahati escribió: > hello all, > > i wanna create an ipsec tunnel between my FreeBSD and a Cisco router. i > have FreeBSD 9.2 with ipsec-tools 0.8.0. is it possible? you know i > struggle to do it in FreeBSD 8.2 but unfortunately i can't do that. now i > migrate to FreeBSD 9.2 and i heard that ipsec is changed to be more > standard in it. so is it possible to create an ipsec tunnel between > freebsd9.2 and a Cisco router or not? Hello, I've checked my old files from around 2007/2008 and I was using something like: # vpnc --no-detach --gateway xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx --id ipsec --username xxxxxx and some configuration file like (see attached notes). the 'secret' must have been extracted from the a crypted value which your Cisco admin generated for the access; there was/is some C-written tool to do the extraction. I'm attaching my notes from how to configure this; I do not use it anymore, so I can't help with tests. HIH matthias -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz, , http://www.unixarea.de/ f: +49-170-4527211 UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vpnc.txt" $Id: vpnc.txt,v 1.5 2007/06/11 14:07:41 guru Exp $ messages from "make install": ===> Installing for vpnc-0.3.3_1 /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/share/doc/vpnc ... This port has installed the following files which may act as network servers and may therefore pose a remote security risk to the system. /usr/local/sbin/vpnc This port has installed the following startup scripts which may cause these network services to be started at boot time. /usr/local/etc/rc.d/vpnc.sh.sample If there are vulnerabilities in these programs there may be a security risk to the system. FreeBSD makes no guarantee about the security of ports included in the Ports Collection. Please type 'make deinstall' to deinstall the port if this is a concern. For more information, and contact details about the security status of this software, see the following webpage: http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~massar/vpnc/ to config: /usr/local/etc/vpnc.conf: IPSec gateway xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx IPSec ID aaaaaaaaaa IPSec secret bbbbbbbbbb Xauth username xxxxxxxx Xauth password xxxxxxxx some comments about how it works: - the gateway is contacted first on UDP 500 and later on 4500 as proposed by the server; - the 'aaaaaaaaaa' (IPSec ID) is Cisco's 'GroupName' value; - the 'bbbbbbbbbb' (IPSec secret) is Cisco's 'enc_GroupPwd' but in clear text; there is a tool to recalculate the clear text GroupPwd which is written in C in may be fetched from: http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~massar/soft/cisco-decrypt.c (local copy is in ~guru/sysSrc/cisco-decrypt.c) and may be compiled with: $ gcc -o cisco-decrypt -I/usr/local/include cisco-decrypt.c -L/usr/local/lib -lgcrypt you lauch it just as root with: # vpnc --no-detach # vpnc --no-detach --debug 3 --udp(?) routings, /etc/resolv.conf are set/reset on up and down via a call to a script /usr/local/sbin/vpnc-script in our case /etc/resolv.conf gets changed to: #@VPNC_GENERATED@ -- this file is generated by vpnc # and will be overwritten by vpnc # as long as the above mark is intact domain blabla.de nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx the routings to the various networks the Concentrator knows are also set and unset by the above script if the Concentrator provided 'split-network settings'; they are passed as environment variables to /usr/local/sbin/vpnc-script that's all --DocE+STaALJfprDB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 08:50:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FFE5A6 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 08:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B81B10D5 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 08:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.130.60] (helo=tiny-r255948) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WH7fS-0004K9-K3; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:10:38 +0100 Received: from tiny-r255948 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny-r255948 (8.14.7/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s1M85b1N001361; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:08:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny-r255948 (8.14.7/8.14.3/Submit) id s1M85aRj001360; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:05:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny-r255948: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:05:36 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: sw2wolf Subject: Re: slowdown because of gettimeofday change between 9.2 and 10? Message-ID: <20140222080535.GA1259@tiny-r255948> References: <5307E64C.3040108@att.net> <1393054249582-5888044.post@n5.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1393054249582-5888044.post@n5.nabble.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r235646 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.130.60 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 08:50:19 -0000 El día Friday, February 21, 2014 a las 11:30:49PM -0800, sw2wolf escribió: > sudo ntpdate 0.pool.ntp.org Hello, I have a similar problem with the application kabc of KDE3. On start it does a lot (thousands) of gettimeofday(3) calls. And my laptop is ntp synced, always, any 10 minutes or so, with ntps1-0.cs.tu-berlin.de. Can you explain a bit your hint? Thanks in advance matthias -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz, , http://www.unixarea.de/ f: +49-170-4527211 UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 09:52:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48B64B74 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yh0-x22c.google.com (mail-yh0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c01::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 064C715AA for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:52:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f44.google.com with SMTP id f73so3481433yha.17 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 01:52:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=QFB8yZGTP9tkrdI04eg/FQlRdlp8E3Vq4lwgkftR60c=; b=v2Xi08x3BOpx6+IdGjf6qu3qgItqj23c3T7ZSSaqCIxVsBijiF2kdSVEwzoUkjTHPc IEzH9qao1vF9DIDH77QIX3lKavjimeRJsgeHWFXLrV5fjXXGhm8BkgPfObVXWF4SOx4m eTy09QiQUagZ3oVqY51zrBJL9P6Wrl0mMDTCxYDc47aO8c4rXwDLLKJHmMl9zMYtQ8Lw wtmFlBwzLUX0yCpAr0XfcUD3j3sLnohUJjzAu0n9GYhBvf1ug6J2BCSUyrAvTPQek9iH OF4/nXPFW17K68iyjWwhzg4qqtd59aMHo8BX5MfOFBX4Y3g6uYZkTpPxAYI7iqgl85y6 Flwg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.120.17 with SMTP id o17mr15994540yhh.121.1393062259740; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 01:44:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.170.214.212 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 01:44:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20140222084125.GA1567@tiny-r255948> References: <20140222084125.GA1567@tiny-r255948> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:14:19 +0330 Message-ID: Subject: Re: IPSec From: Farzin Falahati To: Matthias Apitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:52:28 -0000 thank you Matthias for your reply but vpnc is a client used for accessing remote user to a LAN via ipsec tunnel while i want to have an ipsec tunnel between two lan networks. i mean i want to connect two seperated remote lan to each other via an ipsec tunnel over the internet. in order to do that, i'm using ipsec-tool (racoon) to create ipsec tuunel between my lan and a cisco router which is member of another lan. is it possible to have an ipsec tunnel between two lan (from freebsd in lan1 to a cisco router in lan2)? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 09:59:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DFFEEC9 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:59:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECA8F15DF for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:59:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.130.60] (helo=tiny-r255948) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WH9Mc-0004DS-GK; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 10:59:18 +0100 Received: from tiny-r255948 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny-r255948 (8.14.7/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s1M9xGip001882; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 10:59:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny-r255948 (8.14.7/8.14.3/Submit) id s1M9xFmK001881; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 10:59:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny-r255948: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 10:59:14 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Farzin Falahati Subject: Re: IPSec Message-ID: <20140222095913.GA1855@tiny-r255948> References: <20140222084125.GA1567@tiny-r255948> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r235646 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.130.60 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:59:21 -0000 El día Saturday, February 22, 2014 a las 01:14:19PM +0330, Farzin Falahati escribió: > thank you Matthias for your reply but vpnc is a client used for accessing > remote user to a LAN via ipsec tunnel while i want to have an ipsec tunnel > between two lan networks. i mean i want to connect two seperated remote lan > to each other via an ipsec tunnel over the internet. in order to do that, > i'm using ipsec-tool (racoon) to create ipsec tuunel between my lan and a > cisco router which is member of another lan. > is it possible to have an ipsec tunnel between two lan (from freebsd in > lan1 to a cisco router in lan2)? Ofc, it is a client. But, once you have the connection established, the rest is just a matter of routing, i.e. behind your FreeBSD could be any kind of LAN; just enable gateway via rc.conf and proper routings. matthias -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz, , http://www.unixarea.de/ f: +49-170-4527211 UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 12:42:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A63DFF3 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:42:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-x232.google.com (mail-qg0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5CF2B1410 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:42:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id z60so10202316qgd.9 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 04:42:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=To+w2IYtYBzULJB0vVJY8uIwcWVVknKMXI54aBNAgiA=; b=qjRyo/x8ImmlVxMaLq+uwSAU4uo9tgjFJ41nwZKVy6kN+BtfC/VGKrLZIzngV+yFaE fZQm0ebuMml30RjtGfvNTcA7xfRfoSe3pKpB5cdVSicTygMxAWLI+BVrZn5m1i4/DPyu h9i28ljDFuxDCVsLGHYCIEn/k7PPljUXkEcisVdHD/MeFk5VwRZTS+1obQO9eijzjpR8 hTvBF4AusPK1mekQ/dlnv5CkFoxyrKnXDFPmoiK7WA1SePcagm6lzijqG2e1NQKndn+m DQLFHNf+VNIgmnMricb4KMB3Unpe8ZpiKsEF01erMLsTFI/LoRZV97REgue/a1RDJ/2z kyKg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.43.144 with SMTP id w16mr17115267qae.93.1393072975229; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 04:42:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.48.76 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 04:42:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:42:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: lost Internet connction with wlan0 'status: associated' From: Xavier To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:42:56 -0000 Hi, I'm an 10.0-RELEASE and I lost Internet connection when wlan0 show 'status: associated'. Any idea for debuging the problem ? Thanks. 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References: <5307E64C.3040108@att.net> In-Reply-To: <5307E64C.3040108@att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:44:45 -0000 I did some more work on this. Here is some additional info: 1) The ntpdate suggestion doesn't seem to work. (By the way, the ntpd man page says that it's equivalent to running ntpd with the "-q" option). The reason is that in my case the problem doesn't occur just at start up. The calls to gettimeofday go on all the time. I even killed the ntpd daemon, and the calls still went on. 2) I checked on another system which runs the same application, but under 9.2. It turns out that the application issues the same calls to gettimeofday, also on a continuous basis, and, furthermore the numbers of calls on the two systems over a period of 15 seconds are almost the same. So there must be some other difference between 9.2 and 10.0 that causes the slowdown. On 02/21/2014 18:50, Kostas Oikonomou wrote: From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 17:03:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E76865A for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 17:03:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDB581890 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 17:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-11-141.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.11.141]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5CCA3CCE7; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 18:03:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s1MH2svo002160; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 18:02:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 18:02:54 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Jeremiah Subject: Re: Idea to make package vulnerabilities not matter, along with third party software Message-Id: <20140222180254.a2d8a865.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <7934675E-6EAB-406A-90C4-61CDF901594F@yahoo.com> References: <7934675E-6EAB-406A-90C4-61CDF901594F@yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 17:03:26 -0000 On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 23:36:11 -0600, Jeremiah wrote: > The basics behind the idea is simple. I was going to tell openbsd, > but they seem arrogant about security, whereas you all are honest... In my opinion, they are not arrogant, they just put very strong emphasize on security and the concepts they have in place to improve it. :-) > You can control your os, but you can't control vulnerabilities > in third party packages or software, and you end up patching > it all for them - or can you simply make it not matter? Code made available in the ports collection is usually tested to run on FreeBSD, and certain patches perform the "adaption" for programs coming from Linux land. Of course, this does not prevent runtime errors. Programs that have known vulnerabilities are marked accordingly. They will be restricted, i. e. they cannot be installed until the vendor fixes the security problem. There's portaudit to help you find such programs easily. > Actually, you can. Most viruses require some form of vulnerability > (also hacking) to spread. The objective then for the operating > system is to catch those things in action and throw an error... It's _very_ hard to catch those at runtime. Many programming languages allow you to do "strange things", even stupid things, simply because preventing you to do stupid things would also prevent you from doing clever things. Good and bad programs can be written in any language (whereas some languages are known for being the source where really really bad programs come from). > For example, consider buffer overflows. What do they all > have in common? Some other process or dynamic library is > accessing the memory spaces of processes it shouldn't > access. So all you need to do to limit most viruses is > to run with that idea... Viruses are primarily existing on "Windows" platforms. :-) You're talking about memory protection? "Old stuff" since OS/MFT. FreeBSD contains such mechanisms, but as memory access can happen on different "levels" (user program, system library, kernel) there are different kinds of "access rights". > It's access control, only on processes instead of the user. > As examples of what you can do with program acess control: > > -prevents memory problem vulnerabilities by maintaining a > mapping of what process creates and allocates, and so > 'owns' segments or ram, heaps, pointers, etc. all those > vulnerabilities gone with just that one thing. No neccessarily. Let's just assume a program P allocates 1 MB of RAM. A kind of virus V (or whatever we want to call it) is part of the program or will be loaded by it (e. g. via HTTP resource). The code will be placed into that 1 MB chunk and execution will be handed over to it. Bang! Program V is running. > -you can validate data being passed into methods, for example > making sure they are the right data type and size This is a matter primarily of the programming language, because after compiling those things don't matter much anymore. Memory content gets some aligning, sure, but basically what remains are memory addresses and "lengths". Programming languages with static typing can help a lot here. Already at the compiler stage the correct passing of function arguments will be checked. Again, note that programming languages like C allow you to do "strange things" like type casting or pointer manipulation. > -you can protect files to a whitelist open function, where > only certain apps have access. This again is a feature of the file system. FreeBSD uses the UFS file system which contains standard permissions (user, group, world) and can also apply ACLs. Programs are bound to those permissions. But as soon as a program gets run with UID == 0 (runs as root, maximum privileges), permissions don't really matter anymore. > This gets easy by using a config file, which cannot be > accessed by anything except the os, and further it can > only be modified by a GUI editor, not through a script, > program, or command... That requirement is fully against the UNIX principle. And how would you do that on a server, a system where security is _very_ important? The server doesn't run a GUI. It doesn't even have a screen. Not even a graphics card. Modification by GUI means manual modification. That is very uncomfortable and inefficient. There is no way to automate tasks (except you can "remote-control" the GUI, which again is against your idea of "not through a script, program, or command"). Data _that_ important should not be kept in files which are accessed only via a GUI editor. They are so important that they should be part of the file system. Just imagine what happens if the file gets mangled or deleted - you cannot access anything anymore, your OS will crash. UFS keeps such information within the file system, but not as files: they are called meta-data, some of them are even kept in multiple copies. If you want to learn more about how advanced UFS is, read the FFS related articles by Marshall Kirk McKusick. > (The next one ties in). By doing this you eliminate payloads > of most malware Not neccessarily. It would be imaginable that malware uses approaches comparable to what it does on "Windows" to hide infront of virus software (which I hesitate to call "antivirus" for obvious reasons). > -you can do the same access control as files with processes > accessing the Internet. Back doors by themselves do not have > a payload, but if you all do this right, a new firewall > protecting process instead of ports with a whitelist/blackist > is a much better firewall anyway. FreeBSD offers differnt kinds of firewall machanisms. The ipfw firewall is "IP based", whereas pf is a packet filter. This way, "malicious network packets" can be identified before they reach a user program. > -you know by your packages already what filed, directories, > and sites they need access to. If the package in question is a web browser, it's hard to predict which site it will access. :-) > So there you have a big edge in that you can automatically > set these last two things up for the user. That would eliminate the requirement of a working brain for the user, which generally isn't a good idea. :-) > -the above stops the majority, but more needs to be done I hardly see this, but of course much more can be done. The biggest problem however, the PEBCAK, cannot be eliminated in most constellations. > -viruses spread. Memory residency doesn't matter if it can't > attach to anything, which we may have already solved above. > To know if a virus has infected a package, if that package > changed since its last install/update that is a dead give-away. > You could also checksum it before it runs and compare with > either a local file or your server. Checksum tests are usually performed when downloading a program binary or as a source archive. If the checksum does not verify, chances are high that the source has been compromized, and the installation won't continue. Using tools like mtree can be used to verify the "after installation status" as ports contain an exact description of which files are installed to where, which is important for later removal. The OS also performs periodic tasks (usually at 3 o'clock in the night) to check for suspicious changes, for example, if a new program has suddenly got "run with UID 0" permissions. > -most viruses steal information. Not neccessarily. Established kinds of malware encrypt everything they can find, and then present a friendly GUI wizard for the user to transfer bitcoins if he wants his data back. This kind is called ransomware. Stealing information (usually _copying_, because the source often stays where it is) is an important topic today. The best OS concepts cannot help if users give their data to malware without using their brains. However, FreeBSD has lots of security concepts in place, starting from networking access, file permissions, access to mass storage devices and finally packet inspection. In the field of malware, scareware, trojans, ransomware and viruses, many "applications" (kinds of use) can be imagined. It starts by malware hiding in the background, making the "Windows" PC part of a botnet to send spam, continues to software that captures magnetic card data and PINs at the local supermarket, and doesn't even end at software that accesses camera and microphone of a laptop that the guy with the tie took to the secret and imporant meeting where the offers and the calculations will be discussed. > By default any program or executable (unless it was compiled > by the user - but that doesn't mean you can't ac the file name > as an exe, etc). FreeBSD has ELF, not EXE. :-) To run a program on FreeBSD, there are requirements that need to be met: executable bit set, permissions and so on. Probably you've also noticed one of the "modern ways" of how software is installed nowadays: $ curl http://get.example.com/install.sh | sudo bash This pattern has been emerging in the last few years and should be discouraged. But it's "too easy", so it becomes very convenient, and generally people don't care. This attitude can even be found among the technology-savvy and security-aware users of Linux and Mac OS X. Given the command above, you can surely spot many problems, such has "http" (nothing encrypted, MITM possible) and "sudo bash" (all the permissions). On FreeBSD, it's common to install software through system means, using the package management that has security checks in place to prevent modification of what will be executed after the download. > So by default anything you don't know in packages or ports has > no file or network access, and further if it can't execute > something except a GUI, the user will be pretty suspicious. As I said, the GUI idea is a really bad idea. Limiting file system and network access in _that_ way and requiring manual interaction with a GUI would make program installation a pain. And _who_ knows what all the things are, anyway? Have you recently installed a program and made it through the "make config-recursive" screens? You actually need to have a second system available to find out what Nepomuk, Bonobo, Avahi, Orbit... and Shlorts and all those are (and why you're going to need them). :-) > That will mitigate the vast majority of risks. Not sure about that... > -for hacking, a similar method can be employed. Basically what > you have to do is you should know the socket, program, or is > does something unique to make a socket blow up into a root > shell; for example. So what you do is if you can just catch > that event(s), you've stopped hacking almost completely. > But it's going to take a lot of memory and sys analysis... Tools like dtrace can do exactly that. So you would have to run your programs under permanent dtrace control and have the output parsed "in real-time" to check for malicious patterns. I'm not sure how many false-positives one would get by running complex applications like a fullblown desktop environment. > -now all that is left is what to do about applications that > should have access to a file, but shouldn't be transmitting > any of that data. That's the tough one, but I'll leave it to > you to see what you can come up with. Again, it would be required to monitor the file, save its content for reference, and check all outgoing connections (network) or writes (file system) of the program to see if the content matches. But when the content gets scrambled or encryptet, this task gets harder. > I had these ideas ever since 2005. I was going to do it on > Linux at first; but honestly that platform is a free for all > and bad is more suitable. I thought you all should be the ones... As a programmer, I sometimes find the lack of documentation on Linux disturbing. FreeBSD developers put much work in creating quality source code which includes proper documentation (for example man pages). There's also much more fragmentation there (but that's not a problem, it's a property by concept). > If it works well, patent immediately. If not, maybe it needs > a little refinement. I haven't tested any of it, but the > theory should hold. Patent of swinging on a swing? :-) Most security concepts in FreeBSD are openly documented and released under the permissive license of the BSD license. I don't know how much of that has been printed into patents, given the fact that unknown masses of manufacturers are putting BSD into their routers, firewalls, modems, NAS or whatever, and we don't know about it. But as I said, the licensing terms allow this kind of usage. > If you need me to provide more information or explain further > just let me know. I need a secure os at least, would be nice > if you folks could do this. I think with FreeBSD (or the BSDs in general, especially OpenBSD) you already have a very good foundation for a secure system. But keep one thing in mind: Security is not a state, it's a process. It involves you as much as it involves others. And a healthy common sense is the most important part of this conglomerate. Most malware around targets the "market leader", which is "Windows". FreeBSD does not participate because most of the stuff simply doesn't run out of the box, which is a good thing. Now go ahead and open INVOICE.XLS.EXE. Trust it! It's very important! ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 17:16:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BE7AA3E for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 17:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14C351969 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 17:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [93.104.30.214] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WHGBM-0006Db-NM; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 18:16:09 +0100 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.7/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s1MHG5RZ002275; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 18:16:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.7/8.14.3/Submit) id s1MHG3ph002274; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 18:16:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 18:16:03 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Kostas Oikonomou Subject: Re: slowdown because of gettimeofday change between 9.2 and 10? Message-ID: <20140222171602.GA2265@La-Habana> References: <5307E64C.3040108@att.net> <5308D37B.50908@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <5308D37B.50908@att.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT r214444 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 93.104.30.214 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 17:16:12 -0000 El día Saturday, February 22, 2014 a las 11:42:35AM -0500, Kostas Oikonomou escribió: > I did some more work on this. Here is some additional info: > > 1) The ntpdate suggestion doesn't seem to work. (By the way, the ntpd > man page says that it's equivalent to running ntpd with the "-q" option). I could not imagine that the local time, correct or not, triggers this. > > The reason is that in my case the problem doesn't occur just at start > up. The calls to gettimeofday go on all the time. > I even killed the ntpd daemon, and the calls still went on. > > 2) I checked on another system which runs the same application, but > under 9.2. It turns out that the application issues the same calls to > gettimeofday, also on a continuous basis, and, furthermore the numbers > of calls on the two systems over a period of 15 seconds are almost the same. > > So there must be some other difference between 9.2 and 10.0 that causes > the slowdown. In my case it is: $ uname -a FreeBSD La-Habana 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r250588M: Sat Jun 22 14:15:48 CEST 2013 guru@La-Habana:/usr/obj/usr/home/guru/head/src/sys/GENERIC i386 The app in question (kabc) was compiled based on the ports at this time. HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 17:27:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76986B9D for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 17:27:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4F61A45 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 17:27:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4A533C19; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:21:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 3423339830; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:21:21 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: sw2wolf Subject: Re: slowdown because of gettimeofday change between 9.2 and 10? References: <5307E64C.3040108@att.net> <1393054249582-5888044.post@n5.nabble.com> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:21:21 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1393054249582-5888044.post@n5.nabble.com> (sw2wolf's message of "Fri, 21 Feb 2014 23:30:49 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <448ut3rrla.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 17:27:41 -0000 sw2wolf writes: > sudo ntpdate 0.pool.ntp.org No, that isn't remotely relevant. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 18:14:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 031E25F1 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 18:14:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AEFBA1F67 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 18:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [93.104.30.214] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WHH6E-0000Sr-A1; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 19:14:54 +0100 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.7/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s1MIEp1e002486; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 19:14:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.7/8.14.3/Submit) id s1MIEoWw002485; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 19:14:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 19:14:49 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Kostas Oikonomou , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: slowdown because of gettimeofday change between 9.2 and 10? Message-ID: <20140222181449.GA2475@La-Habana> References: <5307E64C.3040108@att.net> <5308D37B.50908@att.net> <20140222171602.GA2265@La-Habana> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20140222171602.GA2265@La-Habana> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT r214444 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 93.104.30.214 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 18:14:58 -0000 El día Saturday, February 22, 2014 a las 06:16:03PM +0100, Matthias Apitz escribió: > > 2) I checked on another system which runs the same application, but > > under 9.2. It turns out that the application issues the same calls to > > gettimeofday, also on a continuous basis, and, furthermore the numbers > > of calls on the two systems over a period of 15 seconds are almost the same. > > > > So there must be some other difference between 9.2 and 10.0 that causes > > the slowdown. > > In my case it is: > > $ uname -a > FreeBSD La-Habana 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r250588M: Sat Jun 22 14:15:48 CEST 2013 guru@La-Habana:/usr/obj/usr/home/guru/head/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > The app in question (kabc) was compiled based on the ports at this time. $ truss -f -o tr kaddressbook kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KActionCollection::KActionCollection( QObject *parent, const char *name, KInstance *instance ) $ fgrep gettimeofday tr | wc -l 2262 -- Matthias Apitz | /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 19:48:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD53DAD0 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 19:48:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x22e.google.com (mail-ig0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD6C1170C for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 19:48:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ig0-f174.google.com with SMTP id y6so1926898igj.1 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:48:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=WBLxik+5Z1H1BQzd/ZkZxdwx5FuQ/QnyQovXRYJpCmY=; b=aA8HHXj6ZuoKl7wZEyjBxcffzTBzZH3HgddtcGiJl1ymsNHK5oxANOpvhUmq0cZtms JX26vyeKVSCoJc8LUZkc0+eTgmUI2YjoTnkEpmNe3KSV4jmyr9Aj0Kdf9rTIyPdHN+c7 9nQQVriyZCQ8VGNk2kVI1E8B4kgWGidhqU3s6NaSKxJkpagGVJYISk7NMgSJTsjL+k9n veNT1gtCq7eCs13D/19TrbgcTlwQLf12lbGugA/6jUEaM9O8uFsvRBU2nsR/Jv89+AqM n3SQb7wlZCyugP8PGScg3zU4V1rTYLOJTXH79OamDNKAylBJg/xWNGsPHOZ2VxYYsTMl CU5g== X-Received: by 10.50.137.100 with SMTP id qh4mr6808003igb.4.1393098512114; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:48:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.62.201 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:48:12 -0800 (PST) From: Jean-Philippe Provost Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 14:48:12 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Does FreeBSD will run on a old MacBook laptop? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 19:48:32 -0000 Hi everyone, I was wondering if it was possible to recycle my 2008-late MacBook to install FreeBSD on it? Since I'm new to UNIX (never used it), I want to give it a try since I prefer the whole *philosophy* of FreeBSD instead of the Linux's one. I think that my laptop has an Intel Processor (Intel Core 2 Duo)... Thanks for your time, J. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 20:18:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B61EC5B1 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 20:18:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from new1-smtp.messagingengine.com (new1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.221]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84B011954 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 20:18:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.43]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0032BD for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:11:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from web4 ([10.202.2.214]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:11:10 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=f-m.fm; h= message-id:from:to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:subject:date; s=mesmtp; bh=A2/r5QMOOID87YM/C7/JkU/ GNz0=; b=Q0UoMV53SWgFv7lYeNEUiLqza8qhT253uoAvJXFIAhMUxNyqZcEg45n h3iXn4G1h/fCj7dPuQ+EbT2kkNBZEJfTEj9EGH/Mve1VnJWBGuD0t2eAI3IseQRK 7PUIozEtQ8DriI/UzNGfrOdHfez4bV26YLYi3gXYVYI9vUHLhw3s= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=A2/r5QMOOID87YM/C7/JkU/GNz0=; b=qrYPiv+d+HyC9h7Kd1qyYRDatfcY cBuMq8ZiezjvxC10vYjc4OOo0yM+bJCh5CSGOHvizm24s0I1VVF6LjrVwl6cxNL3 DQJD+9qTCsNj2Lar9TJAYOk2eaOHZeAZ+n67Pb8Z/eH9yj3jqjJCEOFCdB7eEWqC F5VzUY6joDqZbt4= Received: by web4.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id 8AD06100D04; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:11:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1393099869.20690.86558389.02245411@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: qYdyelEFfhap6YKmAgjbcDQ5Nl03WPs6E0j9osc809YO 1393099869 From: Ross Penner To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-4527a23f Subject: Fresh installation on top of a old system in ZFS Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:11:09 -0800 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 20:18:14 -0000 I'm hoping to get some guidance on the best way to create a fresh FreeBSD install using my existing drives partitioned with ZFS. The old set up is with two drives of different sizes. The smaller one is mirrored with a partition of equal size on the larger drive to create one pool which is the root and boot partition. A second pool is made of the remaining space on the larger drive mounted at /tank/ I booted the USB image of FreeBSD 10 and I couldn't see an obvious way to use my old partitions as the base for the new system. Any advice that could be offered would be really appreciated! Thank you in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 20:23:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D7FB6C9 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 20:23:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from h3lix.wtfayla.net (helix.wtfayla.net [24.105.170.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20F811999 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 20:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h3lix.wtfayla.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40B184A90 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:22:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from h3lix.wtfayla.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (h3lix.wtfayla.net [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 60469-08 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:22:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from helix.wtfayla.net (helix.wtfayla.net [24.105.170.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h3lix.wtfayla.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B6B384473 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:22:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:22:47 -0500 (EST) From: freebsd@fongaboo.com X-X-Sender: fongaboo@helix.wtfayla.net To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ZFS on Hardware RAID controller Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 20:23:35 -0000 So I think it's fair to say that there is some ambiguous information out there about the definition of JBOD. So, without worrying about settling the discrepency over nomenclature, is it correct to say that... If I am planning to use ZFS on a machine where the drive controller happens to be one that can be configured for some combination of HARDWARE RAID... I should configure it so that it does not concatenate/span/combine the drives in any way at the hardware level. I need to configure it as if it wasn't even a RAID controller, but rather in a configuration where the motherboard/filesystem/OS will initially see each physical drive as its own volume. TRUTH? Thanx FONG On Wed, 19 Feb 2014, dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote: > Re: JBOD... > > I think it's very telling that when Google gives you > the description of JBOD, it actually comes from the > Wikipedia, but ... it doesn't include the [misleading] > statement about the [optional] act of joining the > disks. > > Google's Definition: > Just a Bunch Of Disks. A collection of hard disks that > aren't configured according to RAID; A hard disk > enclosure for several disks, especially one lacking a > RAID controller > Source: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/JBOD > > Definition from > JBOD (abbreviated from "just a bunch of disks") is an > architecture using multiple hard drives, but not in a > RAID configuration, thus providing neither redundancy > nor performance improvements. Hard drives *may be* > handled independently as separate logical volumes, or > they *may be* combined into a single logical volume > using a volume manager like LVM; such [optionally > combined] volumes are usually called "spanned".[2] > > I added the *'s around "may be" and also added the > "[optionally combined]" texts to help clarify that for > you. And I would go on to further say that the LVM > volume manager used to combine the JBOD-access > devices is not part of nor has any relation to said > JBOD access. JBOD is a means of exporting the disks > to the volume manager whose use is optional. > -- > Devin > > _____________ > The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. > If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all > copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; > and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that > any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by > persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 20:25:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61A6E766 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 20:25:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yk0-x22e.google.com (mail-yk0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BF4019AC for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 20:25:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yk0-f174.google.com with SMTP id 20so9968594yks.5 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:25:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=e14b5CuurtdlI6TiIjtQzZ4aNnLTHnwhNs/DbO/YQ+4=; b=Qit9blDVhauOBHDbEHUuKPOiCQT1LVBjH9fU9NeBI+oKSW7YP33l3JuaaGNGTzC02y af0qXhWoIIyH2cAxrVgnWcrIDa6fbl8fDGGqZNVJ4xqEmqOJqibxve6mZN4gkZhmhmGu /Jx5oJG8DOxLmrdS5VRfY0lkSh4fsxh9WCA5BdcXdWyp7dRs+W8E1tq1UR6cn89XQ4JK MYojav28E3c4y/BF4+7VEtCGHKEVv9si+bbW/oQ+Psl3ly+/RVc/F5cED6ex1N3u223A HL2HIAlOeBH6/Wi4DMhHDnEuQQbys0I/oQdvWA1sULNoybbWttGHeRMXZrVFm3cRUR6F c5GA== X-Received: by 10.236.143.148 with SMTP id l20mr19845765yhj.102.1393100742258; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:25:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.76] (75-63-29-182.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. [75.63.29.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 57sm32308973yhl.4.2014.02.22.12.25.41 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:25:41 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) Subject: Re: ZFS on Hardware RAID controller From: aurfalien In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:25:38 -0800 Message-Id: <42536FB2-1641-401A-8196-3428C3B5F17C@gmail.com> References: To: freebsd@fongaboo.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 20:25:43 -0000 Perfect=85=20 =85 letting ZFS do the raid-ing if you will, for you. - aurf "Janitorial Services" On Feb 22, 2014, at 12:22 PM, freebsd@fongaboo.com wrote: >=20 > So I think it's fair to say that there is some ambiguous information = out there about the definition of JBOD. >=20 > So, without worrying about settling the discrepency over nomenclature, = is it correct to say that... >=20 > If I am planning to use ZFS on a machine where the drive controller = happens to be one that can be configured for some combination of = HARDWARE RAID... >=20 > I should configure it so that it does not concatenate/span/combine the = drives in any way at the hardware level. >=20 > I need to configure it as if it wasn't even a RAID controller, but = rather in a configuration where the motherboard/filesystem/OS will = initially see each physical drive as its own volume. >=20 > TRUTH? >=20 >=20 > Thanx >=20 >=20 > FONG >=20 >=20 > On Wed, 19 Feb 2014, dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote: >=20 >> Re: JBOD... >> I think it's very telling that when Google gives you >> the description of JBOD, it actually comes from the >> Wikipedia, but ... it doesn't include the [misleading] >> statement about the [optional] act of joining the >> disks. >> Google's Definition: >> Just a Bunch Of Disks. A collection of hard disks that >> aren't configured according to RAID; A hard disk >> enclosure for several disks, especially one lacking a >> RAID controller >> Source: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/JBOD >> Definition from >> JBOD (abbreviated from "just a bunch of disks") is an >> architecture using multiple hard drives, but not in a >> RAID configuration, thus providing neither redundancy >> nor performance improvements. Hard drives *may be* >> handled independently as separate logical volumes, or >> they *may be* combined into a single logical volume >> using a volume manager like LVM; such [optionally >> combined] volumes are usually called "spanned".[2] >> I added the *'s around "may be" and also added the >> "[optionally combined]" texts to help clarify that for >> you. And I would go on to further say that the LVM >> volume manager used to combine the JBOD-access >> devices is not part of nor has any relation to said >> JBOD access. JBOD is a means of exporting the disks >> to the volume manager whose use is optional. >> --=20 >> Devin >> _____________ >> The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or = confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete = the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the = message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In = addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is = subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended = recipient. Thank you. >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 20:36:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFDE1865 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 20:36:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820861A5D for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 20:36:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A4A33C19; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:36:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 5EC6339846; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:36:20 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: slowdown because of gettimeofday change between 9.2 and 10? References: <5307E64C.3040108@att.net> <5308D37B.50908@att.net> <20140222171602.GA2265@La-Habana> <20140222181449.GA2475@La-Habana> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:36:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20140222181449.GA2475@La-Habana> (Matthias Apitz's message of "Sat, 22 Feb 2014 19:14:49 +0100") Message-ID: <444n3q6g1o.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Kostas Oikonomou , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 20:36:32 -0000 Matthias Apitz writes: > El d=EDa Saturday, February 22, 2014 a las 06:16:03PM +0100, Matthias Api= tz escribi=F3: > >> > 2) I checked on another system which runs the same application, but >> > under 9.2. It turns out that the application issues the same calls to >> > gettimeofday, also on a continuous basis, and, furthermore the numbers >> > of calls on the two systems over a period of 15 seconds are almost the= same. >> >=20 >> > So there must be some other difference between 9.2 and 10.0 that causes >> > the slowdown. >>=20 >> In my case it is: >>=20 >> $ uname -a >> FreeBSD La-Habana 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r250588M: Sat >> Jun 22 14:15:48 CEST 2013 >> guru@La-Habana:/usr/obj/usr/home/guru/head/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >>=20 >> The app in question (kabc) was compiled based on the ports at this time. > > $ truss -f -o tr kaddressbook > kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KActionCollection::KActionCollection( > QObject *parent, const char *name, KInstance *instance ) > $ fgrep gettimeofday tr | wc -l > 2262 FreeBSD has *always* had a slower (but, it looks like, more accurate) gettimeofday() implementation than some other systems. This is an infamous slowdown for Java. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 20:38:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B79F5912 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 20:38:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from h3lix.wtfayla.net (helix.wtfayla.net [24.105.170.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 890751A77 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 20:38:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h3lix.wtfayla.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C890784AE2 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:37:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from h3lix.wtfayla.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (h3lix.wtfayla.net [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 61033-07 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:37:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from helix.wtfayla.net (helix.wtfayla.net [24.105.170.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h3lix.wtfayla.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71D8B84AD1 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:37:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:37:17 -0500 (EST) From: freebsd@fongaboo.com X-X-Sender: fongaboo@helix.wtfayla.net To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RDP daemon on PC-BSD? Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 20:38:06 -0000 I'm yearning for some way to remote into a *NIX desktop using an RDP client, like the one built in to Windows. I've tried messing with various combos of Linux and XRDP to no avail. Usually I can only remote into a brand new X-session separate from what was locally on my desktop. VNC lets you do this but it is sooooo slow and clunky. I was giving PC-BSD a try because I had the impression that the Desktop Sharing feature of KDE could take inbound RDP connections out of the box. That doesn't seem to be the case, unless I'm doing something wrong. I tried to follow this article from BSD Magazine: http://bsdmag.org/system/articles/attachment1s/14677/original/BSD_11_2011_new.pdf?1320753546#page=30 But it seems that the port of FreeNX only works on i386 but not AMD64. I tried XRDP on PC-BSD, but get this error on the Windows client when I connect: http://sync.fongaboo.com/0214/0x2104.JPG I am almost considering reinstalling 32-bit PC-BSD so I can get this working some way some how. Any thoughts are appreciated. FONG ------------------------------------------------------------------------- shot through the heart ooh baby do you know what that's worth and you're to blame ooh heaven is a place on earth darling you give love they say in heaven love comes first a bad name we'll make heaven a place on earth ORBITAL "Halcyon Live" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 21:16:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64BD9CF5 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 21:16:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rs2.shuttle.de (rs2.shuttle.de [IPv6:2001:638:206:3::8]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 229B41D35 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 21:16:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rs2.shuttle.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 2CF3B58013; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:15:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from hal9000.schweikhardt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s1MLFjvJ017638 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:15:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from schweikh@hal9000.schweikhardt.net) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id s1MLFjr7017637 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:15:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from schweikh) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:15:45 +0100 From: Jens Schweikhardt To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to boot multiple FreeBSD systems (GPT, ZFS)? Message-ID: <20140222211545.GA16305@schweikhardt.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 21:16:05 -0000 hello, world\n in the good old days of MBR the FreeBSD bootblock would let me select one of several root partitions to boot from with a prompt like F1 FreeBSD F2 FreeBSD F3 FreeBSD Those times are gone; the new kids on the block are GPT partitioned disks and ZFS. I've read many man pages and articles on the net on using gpart, gptzfsboot, bios-boot partition, separate mini boot partition, setting up a root on ZFS system, and others. The part where I'm having difficulties is: which program lets me do the selection? ***No, I can't use grub or grub2.*** Can anyone outline how to partition and install a system that lets me select at boot time which of several ZFS root file systems to boot? I'm fine with the big picture and can figure out the details myself. Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 21:42:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D6534BD for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 21:42:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0E23107E for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 21:42:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-11-141.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.11.141]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 309A43CCB1; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:42:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s1MLfdn5010979; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:41:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:41:39 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Jean-Philippe Provost Subject: Re: Does FreeBSD will run on a old MacBook laptop? Message-Id: <20140222224139.d9cfd508.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 21:42:06 -0000 On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 14:48:12 -0500, Jean-Philippe Provost wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I was wondering if it was possible to recycle my 2008-late MacBook to > install FreeBSD on it? FreeBSD should run on the Intel version. Make sure you can enable booting from CD or from USB and try the i386 version of FreeBSD (or even amd64 if the CPU is 64 bit capable). There are some limitations and tasks you need to check in order to get everything running. A short web search should reveal those. > Since I'm new to UNIX (never used it), [...] If you've been using Mac OS X - well, that was UNIX. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 22:36:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80567F66 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:36:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yoshi.brtsvcs.net (yoshi.brtsvcs.net [IPv6:2607:f2f8:a450::66]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65E2F140F for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:36:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (c-76-115-19-22.hsd1.or.comcast.net [76.115.19.22]) by yoshi.brtsvcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7FB1CE604D; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 14:36:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2601:7:880:bd0:4dc6:fe9a:fceb:5eeb] (unknown [IPv6:2601:7:880:bd0:4dc6:fe9a:fceb:5eeb]) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5E48C964; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 14:36:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <53092660.1050004@bluerosetech.com> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 14:36:16 -0800 From: Darren Pilgrim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ross Penner , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fresh installation on top of a old system in ZFS References: <1393099869.20690.86558389.02245411@webmail.messagingengine.com> In-Reply-To: <1393099869.20690.86558389.02245411@webmail.messagingengine.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:36:27 -0000 On 2/22/2014 12:11 PM, Ross Penner wrote: > I'm hoping to get some guidance on the best way to create a fresh > FreeBSD install using my existing drives partitioned with ZFS. > > The old set up is with two drives of different sizes. The smaller one is > mirrored with a partition of equal size on the larger drive to create > one pool which is the root and boot partition. A second pool is made of > the remaining space on the larger drive mounted at /tank/ > > I booted the USB image of FreeBSD 10 and I couldn't see an obvious way > to use my old partitions as the base for the new system. Any advice that > could be offered would be really appreciated! What does your ZFS dataset structure look like? If your root is not the base dataset, you can install the new OS in parallel, change the bootfs and mountpoints and boot into the new OS leaving the old one untouched. For example, on a system that's been upgraded from 9.x to 10.x: # zfs list -o name,mountpoint NAME MOUNTPOINT tank none tank/home /home tank/logs /var/log tank/mail /var/mail tank/osroot9 none tank/osroot9/tmp none tank/osroot9/usr none tank/osroot9/usr/local none tank/osroot9/usr/obj none tank/osroot9/usr/src none tank/osroot9/var none tank/osroot9/var/empty none tank/osroot9/var/tmp none tank/osroot10 / tank/osroot10/tmp /tmp tank/osroot10/usr /usr tank/osroot10/usr/local /usr/local tank/osroot10/usr/obj /usr/obj tank/osroot10/usr/src /usr/src tank/osroot10/var /var tank/osroot10/var/empty /var/empty tank/osroot10/var/tmp /var/tmp tank/ports /usr/ports tank/db/postgresql /usr/local/pgsql tank/samba /samba tank/www /usr/local/www From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 22:43:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99234CD for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 567D114CB for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-11-141.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.11.141]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A64924CFF; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 23:43:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s1MMh6Uu011634; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 23:43:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 23:43:06 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Ross Penner Subject: Re: Fresh installation on top of a old system in ZFS Message-Id: <20140222234306.0dc9062e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1393099869.20690.86558389.02245411@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1393099869.20690.86558389.02245411@webmail.messagingengine.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:43:38 -0000 On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:11:09 -0800, Ross Penner wrote: > I'm hoping to get some guidance on the best way to create a fresh > FreeBSD install using my existing drives partitioned with ZFS. This sounds a bit like what Solaris "Boot Environments" have been designed for. Look at FreeBSD's beadm (sysutils/beadm). This would allow you to install the new OS "in parallel" to whatever you already have installed, and then boot into that new environment. If it works as intended, the remains of the old system can be discarded. Just make sure you set the ZFS flags properly (what to boot, also check the mountpoints). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 23:08:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D81A64BE for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 23:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CDE31682 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 23:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s1MN86Jm088535 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:08:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s1MN860f088532; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:08:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:08:06 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Jens Schweikhardt Subject: Re: How to boot multiple FreeBSD systems (GPT, ZFS)? In-Reply-To: <20140222211545.GA16305@schweikhardt.net> Message-ID: References: <20140222211545.GA16305@schweikhardt.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:08:06 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 23:08:08 -0000 On Sat, 22 Feb 2014, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: > hello, world\n > > in the good old days of MBR the FreeBSD bootblock would let me > select one of several root partitions to boot from with a prompt like > F1 FreeBSD > F2 FreeBSD > F3 FreeBSD > > Those times are gone; the new kids on the block are GPT partitioned > disks and ZFS. I've read many man pages and articles on the net on using > gpart, gptzfsboot, bios-boot partition, separate mini boot partition, > setting up a root on ZFS system, and others. The part where I'm having > difficulties is: which program lets me do the selection? > ***No, I can't use grub or grub2.*** Syslinux? Probably not, but thought I'd mention it. If choosing after boot is adequate, see sysutils/beadm. > Can anyone outline how to partition and install a system that lets > me select at boot time which of several ZFS root file systems to boot? > I'm fine with the big picture and can figure out the details myself. Does the pool/filesystem choice need to be presented by a menu, or is typing in an already-known value good enough? Consider also VMs with VirtualBox or bhyve, using zvols for disk. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 23:12:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 950E65BA for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 23:12:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm14-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm14-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54F011706 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 23:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [216.39.60.172] by nm14.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2014 23:09:23 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.243] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2014 23:09:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp114.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2014 23:09:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1393110563; bh=M4asaFVqjUL9wQUgA6Kcfiub5DTjj7s9Fnj34s9LRqA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=gu9UroCC2zWC/fKkdtoTpvZgX2wPQGV4VU2ENNhUrjcQkP5agtwn2r5HfzgJsrgXH3NJ06zpzKt4YRZS3wm9IpDIpmFSuG0zL8CELyvC1XC0vgwdU862DObZNemV1gXgRUIDXRic+46bFJFPO3N+GcruskAwio0juiuRxQEo1TY= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 743038.51010.bm@smtp114.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: K9UA8oAVM1m6rX_pETg6WPkqJszwSjxN0u5yZz6JuFJPED9 br0EXsCyEfOKPhfjxaTWwI.H0NGY7guiNfGlh_S06Uiut23yK7C6NWe.NTj8 njw65ADrwf_un_54ymv_U8X0Pl__Ii6R5aY2y0e811XQoxCtSDl5Z2Kvi6Wr DVwTTVJnspf685t3fqmZmjrS.1W4lYj9e1nkuGjJALQDbOjeSdvDN7fo5V4M 2KpFxmEqpbMooUFzWibomJzKkhxKcOnU9H4okmKzHqO75W5S2O.gnbipkl9q Jagf62ruYgawW_8tQYQxmj4QCRw7CM75nQpV7ziCoaebNuHZTcUfYO01YM_w .utfo2LX8Uf1QzsefkU6sjk8Kn32qs4PMiurIbJsAVIcIUfrYb5NLz16niqk iSVigx85rcoy5me.w5tZxhpSj71nj4aCPjjcEZWPSsKszhRurT.GRhjBoQbh N71PPm6kx4DjSFxZ23DNmQWUuRDfXJY70TU4t..ntLAKEKfw_Hi3cu_2pEPT 4Ku7OfAXW7HZTMj_Dh0rNERcrEzrziKuuksfqo2NOCAGYkv3B5MC3e4idfJN PBQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: dQDeuIqswBBZlqxPL_idatjeqZFsZlQC4MQ5I3DYpsI- X-Rocket-Received: from [135.207.38.77] (k.oikonomou@67.84.197.59 with plain [98.138.31.74]) by smtp114.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2014 23:09:23 +0000 UTC Message-ID: <53092E66.1070809@att.net> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 18:10:30 -0500 From: Kostas Oikonomou User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: slowdown because of gettimeofday change between 9.2 and 10? References: <5307E64C.3040108@att.net> <5308D37B.50908@att.net> <20140222171602.GA2265@La-Habana> <20140222181449.GA2475@La-Habana> <444n3q6g1o.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <444n3q6g1o.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 23:12:42 -0000 For me the main issue here is the difference in behavior between 9.2 and 10.0. Do you have any ideas about that? My texmacs editor was fine under 9.2, and is painfully slow under 10.0. Kostas On 02/22/2014 15:36, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Matthias Apitz writes: > >> El día Saturday, February 22, 2014 a las 06:16:03PM +0100, Matthias Apitz escribió: >> >>>> 2) I checked on another system which runs the same application, but >>>> under 9.2. It turns out that the application issues the same calls to >>>> gettimeofday, also on a continuous basis, and, furthermore the numbers >>>> of calls on the two systems over a period of 15 seconds are almost the same. >>>> >>>> So there must be some other difference between 9.2 and 10.0 that causes >>>> the slowdown. >>> In my case it is: >>> >>> $ uname -a >>> FreeBSD La-Habana 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r250588M: Sat >>> Jun 22 14:15:48 CEST 2013 >>> guru@La-Habana:/usr/obj/usr/home/guru/head/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >>> >>> The app in question (kabc) was compiled based on the ports at this time. >> $ truss -f -o tr kaddressbook >> kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KActionCollection::KActionCollection( >> QObject *parent, const char *name, KInstance *instance ) >> $ fgrep gettimeofday tr | wc -l >> 2262 > FreeBSD has *always* had a slower (but, it looks like, more accurate) > gettimeofday() implementation than some other systems. This is an > infamous slowdown for Java. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 23:22:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 395AB791 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 23:22:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-x235.google.com (mail-ie0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02BB817AE for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 23:22:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f181.google.com with SMTP id rl12so2395722iec.40 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:22:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=7lkX8Sir7fVItYYYkFJn/8n63iT3krYdulPfm8Oin6A=; b=oSAFC/SocZvWSS9g6nzgfPt/3sL+Ds+CyHRC8ZEctDrLb6y1soniPxiDNnrt81oPT8 9uC8YACNAJeGiELhxtlTLUpjZ24vK3tcrhGTPKXextZDBx/gbPxsfdf5ZGHQLhoO76e0 Ooa94igSWzsVvsElQmI3Q3SYzO1ZChhEaYQJ5YxWhSd6pyCfcTJD+hHuHwqKO0d9I5M+ sk2/nYqwBIsNGL2Lc57tsOvCRdGOiltYIdhZTilJtlvYYRakh6JiSsC+8TuACO9KhVOO FrCSt1ZDQVCBu2v8WpVzquMM65SuvWQsT9BQmz+YsfYMhIXRR5QvRzCSAS/xDUd0Yi2M pCww== X-Received: by 10.50.253.228 with SMTP id ad4mr2153082igd.39.1393111348359; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:22:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.62.201 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:22:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20140222224139.d9cfd508.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20140222224139.d9cfd508.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Jean-Philippe Provost Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 18:22:08 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Does FreeBSD will run on a old MacBook laptop? To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 23:22:29 -0000 Hi, Thanks for the infos. I'll give it a try. I know that Mac OS X is UNIX, but I want UNIX in a *pure* way ;) Cheers. 2014-02-22 16:41 GMT-05:00 Polytropon : > On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 14:48:12 -0500, Jean-Philippe Provost wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I was wondering if it was possible to recycle my 2008-late MacBook to > > install FreeBSD on it? > > FreeBSD should run on the Intel version. Make sure you can > enable booting from CD or from USB and try the i386 version > of FreeBSD (or even amd64 if the CPU is 64 bit capable). > There are some limitations and tasks you need to check > in order to get everything running. A short web search > should reveal those. > > > > > Since I'm new to UNIX (never used it), [...] > > If you've been using Mac OS X - well, that was UNIX. :-) > > > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... >