From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 00:02:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EBC88E3 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 00:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S22.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s22.hotmail.com [65.55.111.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 493AA2B6C for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 00:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU437-SMTP76 ([65.55.111.137]) by BLU004-OMC4S22.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Sat, 16 Aug 2014 17:01:31 -0700 X-TMN: [8kY6QFBHpvGUolXspXLC5xNKyDBVx0Bw] X-Originating-Email: [wade-is-great@live.com] Message-ID: Received: from [192.168.2.11] ([174.89.208.223]) by BLU437-SMTP76.smtp.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(8.0.9200.16384); Sat, 16 Aug 2014 17:01:29 -0700 From: Fred Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: FreeBSD on Macbook Pro early 2011 Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 20:00:16 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1816\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1816) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Aug 2014 00:01:29.0607 (UTC) FILETIME=[658AB170:01CFB9AE] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 00:02:40 -0000 Hi everyone! I am trying to install FreeBSD on my Macbook pro early 2011 in dual boot = with OS X Mavericks but so far I could not boot on it once the = installation is complete. Computer specs: = http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/specs/macbook-pro-core-i= 7-2.3-17-early-2011-unibody-thunderbolt-specs.html I tried using the gpart command, blessing the partition, using gdisk to = create an hybrid MBR, but so far nothing has worked. Here's what I tried: = http://phosphor-escence.blogspot.ca/2012/01/dual-boot-pc-bsd-90-and-os-x-l= ion-on.html https://glenbarber.us/2011/11/12/Dual-Booting-OS-X-and-FreeBSD-9.html I also looked in the mailing lists, and the FreeBSD forums, but I could = not find any solutions. Now on latest versions of OS X Bootcamp (Mountain Lion, Mavericks) I = cannot create a partition without having a Windows disk, and I also = tried using Bootcamp under Snow Leopard. Regarding the errors I have after the installation, it's either "can't = load kernel" or "Missing bootloader", with or without hybrid MBR. The = partition table is GPT, and the system uses a EFI boot manager. Thanks in advance for any answer to my problem. Cheers, Fred From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 05:31:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 231F71EF for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 05:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zhaozhou.dcollins.info (zhaozhou.dcollins.info [208.79.92.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B231297A for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 05:31:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Acer (CPE-137-147-36-111.lnse7.lon.bigpond.net.au [137.147.36.111]); by zhaozhou.dcollins.info (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 7bd8feea; TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO; for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:24:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "dbc" To: Subject: how to encourage a wireless driver to exist? Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:24:27 +1000 Message-ID: <003e01cfb9db$8c11b1e0$a43515a0$@dcollins.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: Ac+52g4gZoLsP8iAR92rI4Es2RCRIw== Content-Language: en-us Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 05:31:21 -0000 Hello, I have a new laptop which I'm well sick of having to run linux on. Is there a way to encourage someone to write a driver for intel 7260 wifi card? I am a C programmer, and I would be willing to volunteer time, but I don't know how useful I will be with neither driver writing nor wifi protocol nor FreeBSD development process experience. Still, if anyone would point me in the right direction I would happily give it a shot. Where can this stuff be learnt? I also see that linux drivers exist, but I'm not sure about legal problems when copying from those. Or, while I probably couldn't afford to fund it entirely myself, is there a way I could chip into a pot to help fund someone with more experience to at least make a start on it? Sincerely, Daniel Collins From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 07:44:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E49CDEF for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 07:44:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pukruppa.de (pd95cabe3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.92.171.227]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "pukruppa.de", Issuer "pukruppa.de" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D031D2556 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 07:44:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pukruppa.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.de (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7H7iJOK058203 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:44:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.de) Message-ID: <53F05D53.3030001@pukruppa.de> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:44:19 +0200 From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: [SOLVED] Re: sh stdout/stderr redirection problem References: <53EF6979.2080708@pukruppa.de> <20140816165446.db6aefc6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140816165446.db6aefc6.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 07:44:25 -0000 On 16.08.2014 16:54, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:23:53 +0200, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have got a python3.4 script which I can start from an rc.d script as a >> daemon this way: >> >> daemon -p /var/run/my.pid /path/to/python3.4 /path/to/myscript.py >> >> >> /path/to/python3.4 /path/to/myscript.py produces interesting messages on >> stdout and stderr, so I would like to collect them in /var/log/my.log . >> I have tried all kinds of combinations of >>'s and 2>&1's but either I >> catch daemon's output which is nothing or the script won't start anymore. >> >> Any ideas? - Thanks for your help After some playing around: > Idea: > > # ( daemon -p /var/run/my.pid /path/to/python3.4 /path/to/myscript.py ) > /tmp/myscript.log 2>&1 This doesn't work: it produces an empty logfile ... > You can use ( ... ) to "summarize" subshell outputs, but in > your case using _script_ is probably the easiest method. It > will capture all output written to the terminal (stdout and > stderr). See "man script" for details. That's not "elegant" but it works for me. I have to use a long command daemon -f -p /var/run/my.pid script -a /var/log/my.log \ /path/to/python3.4 /path/to/myscript.py Thanks for your input! Greetings Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 07:53:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81FF7366 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 07:53:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pukruppa.de (pd95cabe3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.92.171.227]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "pukruppa.de", Issuer "pukruppa.de" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 105A32635 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 07:53:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pukruppa.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.de (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7H7raBW058226 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:53:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.de) Message-ID: <53F05F80.7070507@pukruppa.de> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:53:36 +0200 From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sh stdout/stderr redirection problem References: <53EF6979.2080708@pukruppa.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 07:53:39 -0000 On 16.08.2014 19:16, Michael Ross wrote: > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:23:53 +0200, Peter Ulrich Kruppa > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have got a python3.4 script which I can start from an rc.d script as a >> daemon this way: >> >> daemon -p /var/run/my.pid /path/to/python3.4 /path/to/myscript.py >> >> >> /path/to/python3.4 /path/to/myscript.py produces interesting messages on >> stdout and stderr, so I would like to collect them in /var/log/my.log . >> I have tried all kinds of combinations of >>'s and 2>&1's but either I >> catch daemon's output which is nothing or the script won't start anymore. >> >> Any ideas? - Thanks for your help >> >> Peter > > You could do the redirection in your python script: > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4675728/redirect-stdout-to-a-file-in-python > > > Basically, > > import sys > f=open('logfile','w') > > def redirect(msg): > f.write(msg) > > sys.stdout=redirect > sys.stderr=redirect Thanks for your idea - using python's redirection should be the "nice" way to solve my problem, but I have to admit I couldn't get that working, yet - I end up with an empty logfile. For now I am happy with Polytropon's script solution, but I will put your approach on my ToDo list. Greetings Peter > > > Michael > > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 08:18:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43F1A578 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x229.google.com (mail-wg0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB52827BF for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:18:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f41.google.com with SMTP id z12so3773497wgg.12 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 01:18:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ihhmDtdn4+/Jdj95yiJg2Grrdx6iuxDav+imuO/elsE=; b=BOVYc/ExJ9p0BpPIVLdKDC9RZs0koXcsBr1brCXut3at1ovzOTVeNST4OEJu2QduZA Z7LGQhHoXGI9OQONXiWGxospnBcNGUK8SSDr2n6ckAAEKrPaQKbr7fop9CieKVcFzbKi Siy75qpOLKE/A3+9Kyz2m4kjqkoiNaJTGD5OgtVMThi+z9yJ2m91S6B8JRj6jIOGSbvt S4y3lfaDOeAknD1+sTY7BFIj+//JKnd0BgYnXC0ndHdKh5KV8ZjGMpd4mZU8vD3NovIj EMa0g+/LBtY7NYU8pVw917ZnhfKOBSE5ShNFzBV9ef1yf5eB9eToyRrk+EvxfL0nmJIJ kn3Q== X-Received: by 10.194.90.114 with SMTP id bv18mr34143339wjb.63.1408263515923; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 01:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (host86-139-236-106.range86-139.btcentralplus.com. [86.139.236.106]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pl1sm25006747wic.17.2014.08.17.01.18.34 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 01:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53F06559.5040709@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:18:33 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with pkg install kde References: <20140811160340.GA1783@ymer.thorshammare.org> <44oavqvicc.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <53E9C789.9000509@gmail.com> <20140812120004.GA6036@ymer.thorshammare.org> In-Reply-To: <20140812120004.GA6036@ymer.thorshammare.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:18:38 -0000 Hi, have you since tried installing/upgrading KDE packages with the latest release of pkg(8), 1.3.6? and has it been successful? I recall you changed to pkg-devel but I believe the issues with non-devel version of pkg have been resolved and I am wondering if it is now safe to go ahead and install KDE 4.12.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 08:54:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B704DAF3 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:54:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.31]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D34A2A8F for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:54:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s7H8rt97086017; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 10:53:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 195AC1243A; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 10:53:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 10:53:55 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: dbc Subject: Re: how to encourage a wireless driver to exist? Message-ID: <20140817085355.GA74530@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: dbc , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <003e01cfb9db$8c11b1e0$a43515a0$@dcollins.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <003e01cfb9db$8c11b1e0$a43515a0$@dcollins.info> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:54:06 -0000 --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 03:24:27PM +1000, dbc wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I have a new laptop which I'm well sick of having to run linux on. Is the= re > a way to encourage someone to write a driver for intel 7260 wifi card? You might want to ask on the freebsd-wireless list. But I think Cedric Gross is working on it. > I am a C programmer, and I would be willing to volunteer time, but I don't > know how useful I will be with neither driver writing nor wifi protocol n= or > FreeBSD development process experience. Still, if anyone would point me in > the right direction I would happily give it a shot. Where can this stuff = be > learnt? I also see that linux drivers exist, but I'm not sure about legal > problems when copying from those. There is a github repo; https://github.com/KreizIT/FreeBSD-IWN The Linux and FreeBSD kernels are quite different internally. So just copyi= ng code would be useless. And Linux kernel code is under the GPL, which AFAIK is not acceptable in the FreeBSD base system. What is usually done is study how the Linux driver works, and re-implement = it in the way FreeBSD drivers are written. You can study existing drivers as references. You should consider joining the freebsd-hackers list if you sta= rt working on FreeBSD code. The standard book about the internals of FreeBSD is; Marshall Kirk McKusick, George V. Neville-Neil The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System. Boston, Mass. : Addison-Wesley, 2004. ISBN 0-201-70245-2 Marshall Kirk McKusick teaches courses about the internals of FreeBSD. IIRC you can order videos of them online. See also https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bibliography-osi= nternals.html > Or, while I probably couldn't afford to fund it entirely myself, is there= a > way I could chip into a pot to help fund someone with more experience to = at > least make a start on it? You can always make a donation; https://www.freebsd.org/donations/ Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT8G2iAAoJEED21dyjijPgJzkP/1NlbNROEaaPVFi9UO+OuB46 +jAaJiSFTNq52nAHKafDkS6ZDQ02Ks0rzy8X7sFfokNXdytk2rRIqHTabEmGo+5Q 13Q/EmLr1263sarJrcAxFMPynbtBye7p8ySUiO6q4Q89qZX2eMBLdK4xRoLd2WRc mFobI1fjez0h4//jwVWa7qW5ZLzUYxfX42pMW4V9a2MjPcrug805Zgr0Dt2tfURK OMFMBz5fs1zO66BENyna6IHqh8SmBq+X0wM1oYRKQVheEb/cGIwhmUMzpj3ylLFt xiy6JlmTQqLTOMOW1vKc2M5BYlHDr226qwJqoXrGwTteFEF0J9ANMFW10El45NDE OC2h4pjA6C/Lqfg1JkEsLZJ8uA3imQBtma4nE12IBfJHIkwtppG4Y/ikABJE3Ddq YL6MIgMRKlcFvwn8nwnUAywHXElFYHnGTsu8guYWOshm+QCXo43opJJqpmJ6lWvS FT3BXo5rPFjD7Ik/XqHiFFunFXqgkq6t3b9fjw6janPcuikfG4uCvkwrH8mYBz6r 2nb29xqML51WItBAbeaAVxZaTgXM2uv6AomqXNkVNBgSHIgalsira2wo/t31IglV OzfSZ0zHKNR3Jnrs+9PXeN+lBhg2ONdiakrB6WuB3qgusU0MAssLqmQvSqP/alxk x130neCo7Hiu7Z8zzT2x =/JL3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 09:17:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA9F5F65; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:17:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from frodar.lysandor.de (frodar.lysandor.de [188.40.33.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A6C2CA6; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:17:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frodar.lysandor.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44DE22693; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:08:23 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frodar.lysandor.de Received: from frodar.lysandor.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (frodar.lysandor.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VLPvoAonZmDP; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:08:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.lysandor.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: flo@snakeoilproductions.net) by frodar.lysandor.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4BD9F22640; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:08:23 +0200 (CEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:08:23 +0200 From: flo@snakeoilproductions.net To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... In-Reply-To: <53EE2CF3.8030700@hiwaay.net> References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <53EE2CF3.8030700@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: X-Sender: flo@snakeoilproductions.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.0-rc Cc: FreeBSD X11 mailing list , FreeBSD Questions !!!! , owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:17:25 -0000 Greetings, On 2014-08-15 17:53, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > Xdm uses .xinitrc to start a "something" right? Please show your > .xinitrc > I guess you're trying to use xfce, have you verified that all > required > packages are installed ( xfce, xorg-server, xf86-video*, > xf86-input*? > What graphics hw are you using? Which xorg-stack ( new /old)? > Are you using a xorg.conf or using default on-the-fly-config? > Best regards > Andreas > > OK, here goes, see attached. Whenever I startx from the command line > after a console login, XFCE starts up & operates AOK, so I would > guess > the install is OK. Gfx hw is a jaguar kabini CPU, w/ GPU on die w/ > CPU. > gfx is too new for X.org support, so I am using the vesa driver. > .xinitrc: exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 Maybe I'm missing the point here entirely, but xdm uses $HOME/.xsession. A missing .xsession has quite the same symptoms, and since XFCE works fine after startx, which indeed uses $HOME/.xinitrc, you might try % echo 'exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4' >$HOME/.xsession and then restart xdm. Sincerely, florian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 09:51:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFD757D6; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:51:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DC2F20BE; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2AC6252C9; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:51:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7H9pmTl001923; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:51:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:51:48 +0200 From: Polytropon To: flo@snakeoilproductions.net Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... Message-Id: <20140817115148.4f463e8d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <53EE2CF3.8030700@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "William A. Mahaffey III" , owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:51:52 -0000 On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:08:23 +0200, flo@snakeoilproductions.net wrote: > Maybe I'm missing the point here entirely, but xdm uses $HOME/.xsession. > A missing .xsession has quite the same symptoms, and since XFCE works > fine after startx, > which indeed uses $HOME/.xinitrc, you might try > % echo 'exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4' >$HOME/.xsession > and then restart xdm. This is what I suggested, except getting rid of the "two files problem" by calling .xinitrc via .xession (which is what xdm executes). Content of ~/.xsession: #!/bin/csh source ~/.cshrc exec ~/.xinitrc Content of ~/.xinitrc: #!/bin/sh # ... your other startup initializers here ... exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 Typically, both files have +x attribute, but that's probably not even needed (like the #!/bin/sh line of .xinitrc, it just makes clear what "language" it is written in). This should work. It works with a lot of window managers I've tested so far. I have not tested with Xfce, though. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 11:10:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6248BBD for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:10:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay-b32.telenor.se (smtprelay-b32.telenor.se [213.150.131.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49B09286D for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:10:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb4.telenor.se (ipb4.telenor.se [195.54.127.167]) by smtprelay-b32.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08EDED12E for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:40:03 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [83.227.225.121] X-LISTENER: [smtp.bredband.net] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkIJAJ6F8FNT4+F5PGdsb2JhbABYgw1TV8wzGgqHBYFfFwUBAQEBODaEAwEBAQECAQEBAUsIGAsFCwsYCSUPBRMBBQQIChoIBwQBHASIGQwBCMEXF457AQENg3iBHQEElUuDdYMBAYFXlws7LweBAQcXgSkBAQE X-IPAS-Result: AkIJAJ6F8FNT4+F5PGdsb2JhbABYgw1TV8wzGgqHBYFfFwUBAQEBODaEAwEBAQECAQEBAUsIGAsFCwsYCSUPBRMBBQQIChoIBwQBHASIGQwBCMEXF457AQENg3iBHQEElUuDdYMBAYFXlws7LweBAQcXgSkBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,879,1400018400"; d="scan'208";a="629592701" Received: from ua-83-227-225-121.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO ymer.thorshammare.org) ([83.227.225.121]) by ipb4.telenor.se with ESMTP; 17 Aug 2014 12:40:02 +0200 Received: from ymer.thorshammare.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ymer.thorshammare.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7HAe6V5090189 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:40:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hasse@ymer.thorshammare.org) Received: (from root@localhost) by ymer.thorshammare.org (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id s7HAe6i5090188; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:40:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hasse) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:40:06 +0200 From: Charlie Root To: Jamie Griffin Subject: Re: problems with pkg install kde Message-ID: <20140817104006.GA89878@ymer.thorshammare.org> References: <20140811160340.GA1783@ymer.thorshammare.org> <44oavqvicc.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <53E9C789.9000509@gmail.com> <20140812120004.GA6036@ymer.thorshammare.org> <53F06559.5040709@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53F06559.5040709@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at mailhub3.thorshammare.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:10:22 -0000 --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 09:18:33AM +0100, Jamie Griffin wrote: >=20 > Hi, have you since tried installing/upgrading KDE packages with the=20 > latest release of pkg(8), 1.3.6? and has it been successful? I recall=20 > you changed to pkg-devel but I believe the issues with non-devel version= =20 > of pkg have been resolved and I am wondering if it is now safe to go=20 > ahead and install KDE 4.12.5 > =20 Hello I'm still on pkg-devel. That solved my problem, everything works as usual, and I've never reverted = back. /Hasse > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT8IaGAAoJEAqrEhCvk86fFCUQAIz6p8eTI+UyU++I/C5ZAtLX rUK8CedawpdyKsu0ypUyO9p1sfmLVFUJ0Dwhv8JRn1eGL/xnf+d1GkRVKpBrSCWu QPQP+I6jYqrLf8nq3YKfLbYYqLENz8wVsd8yKlgO4KoXLfM9FCPxmf7S0y1gRhAd d1O/ktmZ14QNpRpXmZZWz8nwFppQdTFjEnTUmHedjD5LVIqGr29UDhbLxZgHKDBq pnqLj/1t4OLwqoKSZLmTkCfA+K+FMWBP4BZq/ISQL4ObL2u80YkMQv0OYxceifGl 6qHAEE3W/DWuZklz5T24zckOytQz6LRaTK6p/ba+wc34bc6k5Q9CgMCiGO3QZYAN RnLHVd7ByFEXs7D4PHlvbRakihF1SrVi+YwlMpbvaslwu5rTwRc3QQilSknSS1uQ IytUpaQrbGXOik9rqvXmjqZ8wEHutWXwPlWjerfhrY94l4WrLWy9sONFyCC72jcg qnJYCH1vOzWcFqREJtOUGsTTNnErQAZj0KqJqNxIzWFYZOGfwjWCepbzRFM3IEjb dFysOF8GKkBIIW8MzokHz1LEHc49Be0gg7NQqJxwrGR2IjYIG0j/VuMzux45FUrP vxyo5IxuDnrAuGWxq8oayyCCh62W+soWWjkyjhlGfh0ue7+PAdlTUHO7qz+9FWcR B2pbzugwEx+TJNrteDsr =31Ml -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 11:38:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 435894EC; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:38:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09E832CBD; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:38:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7HBcbRp014630 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 06:38:37 -0500 Message-ID: <53F095B4.3000206@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 06:44:52 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD X11 mailing list , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <53EE2CF3.8030700@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:38:45 -0000 On 08/17/14 04:08, flo@snakeoilproductions.net wrote: > Greetings, > > On 2014-08-15 17:53, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> Xdm uses .xinitrc to start a "something" right? Please show your >> .xinitrc >> I guess you're trying to use xfce, have you verified that all >> required >> packages are installed ( xfce, xorg-server, xf86-video*, xf86-input*? >> What graphics hw are you using? Which xorg-stack ( new /old)? >> Are you using a xorg.conf or using default on-the-fly-config? >> Best regards >> Andreas >> >> OK, here goes, see attached. Whenever I startx from the command line >> after a console login, XFCE starts up & operates AOK, so I would >> guess >> the install is OK. Gfx hw is a jaguar kabini CPU, w/ GPU on die w/ >> CPU. >> gfx is too new for X.org support, so I am using the vesa driver. >> .xinitrc: exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 > > Maybe I'm missing the point here entirely, but xdm uses $HOME/.xsession. > A missing .xsession has quite the same symptoms, and since XFCE works > fine after startx, > which indeed uses $HOME/.xinitrc, you might try > % echo 'exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4' >$HOME/.xsession > and then restart xdm. > > Sincerely, > > > florian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Long thread here, you could backtracck it if you're sufficiently bored/motivated .... short answer is whenever I use the .xsession (i.e. xdm managing the login), it doesn't work, pretty much no matter what I tried .... I'm back to console login followed by startx, works for now .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 11:50:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6694F7EE for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:50:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 198E02E32 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:50:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7HBoCPY018293 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 06:50:12 -0500 Message-ID: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 06:56:27 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Flash plugin ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:50:14 -0000 one of my most haunted webpages is http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=htx&product=N0R&overlay=11111111&loop=yes to view local weather in motion .... when I just visited under FreeBSD 9.3, FF31, both 64-bit, it says it needs a plugin to proceed, but doesn't tell me what plugin. I guessed Adobe flash & 'pkg install flash-0.9.5', but still nogo (it was a WAG ....) .... any help w/ what plugin or package I need to view this webpage ? TIA .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 11:58:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 115288CB for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:58:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8BCA2E7A for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:58:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31D963CC3D; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:58:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7HBwOL4002567; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:58:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:58:24 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? Message-Id: <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:58:29 -0000 On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 06:56:27 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > one of my most haunted webpages is > http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=htx&product=N0R&overlay=11111111&loop=yes > to view local weather in motion .... when I just visited under FreeBSD > 9.3, FF31, both 64-bit, it says it needs a plugin to proceed, but > doesn't tell me what plugin. I guessed Adobe flash & 'pkg install > flash-0.9.5', but still nogo (it was a WAG ....) .... any help w/ what > plugin or package I need to view this webpage ? TIA .... Follow the instructions in the Handbook, there are more steps involved than just installing a package: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html See 7.2.1.2. The mentioned page works for me (FreeBSD 8.2, Opera 11.50, linux-f10-flashplugin-10.3r183.5), so it should also work with today's software. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 12:06:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8E20DA0 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:06:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from v45849.1blu.de (v45849.1blu.de [178.254.2.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5672035 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:06:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by v45849.1blu.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658DC97A1918; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:58:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at jboy.eu Received: from v45849.1blu.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (v45849.1blu.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gFl-DsuDS2RO; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:58:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.116] (dslb-188-108-176-024.188.108.pools.vodafone-ip.de [188.108.176.24]) by v45849.1blu.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 33D9B97A054D; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:58:22 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? From: Jeremy Boy In-Reply-To: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:58:21 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9434DA37-8388-40D9-8A57-94DF25FF1B60@jboy.eu> References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> To: "William A. Mahaffey III" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:06:23 -0000 Yes, you must have flash installed for this web site. Please see = http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html#moz-flash-plugin= for instructions regarding installing Adobe Flash for Firefox. Jeremy P.S.: You've installed shells/flash, which is not what you were looking for: > % cat /usr/ports/shells/flash/pkg-descr=20 > Flash is an attempt to create a secure menu-driver shell for = UNIX-derived OSes, > while providing user-friendliness and easy configurability. An ideal = situation > requiring the use of flash would be a student-run telnet server which = needs to: >=20 > a) shelter the users from some of the nastinesses of UNIX > b) shelter the system from nasty users > c) provide an easy way to launch applications > d) support multitasking/job control as elegantly as possible > e) support easy-to-get-right configuration by administrators Am 17.08.2014 um 13:56 schrieb William A. Mahaffey III : >=20 >=20 > one of my most haunted webpages is = http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=3Dhtx&product=3DN0R&overlay=3D11111= 111&loop=3Dyes to view local weather in motion .... when I just visited = under FreeBSD 9.3, FF31, both 64-bit, it says it needs a plugin to = proceed, but doesn't tell me what plugin. I guessed Adobe flash & 'pkg = install flash-0.9.5', but still nogo (it was a WAG ....) .... any help = w/ what plugin or package I need to view this webpage ? TIA .... >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 12:47:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D4B24A6 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECE71244B for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:47:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7HClt3T015849 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 07:47:55 -0500 Message-ID: <53F0A5F2.4040704@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 07:54:10 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Boy Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <9434DA37-8388-40D9-8A57-94DF25FF1B60@jboy.eu> In-Reply-To: <9434DA37-8388-40D9-8A57-94DF25FF1B60@jboy.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:47:58 -0000 On 08/17/14 06:58, Jeremy Boy wrote: Hmmmmm .... OK, I just removed flash-0.9.5 & looked at the URL you posted. I'll look into nsflashplugin .... > Yes, you must have flash installed for this web site. > Please see http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html#moz-flash-plugin for instructions regarding installing Adobe Flash for Firefox. > > Jeremy > > P.S.: > You've installed shells/flash, which is not what you were looking for: >> % cat /usr/ports/shells/flash/pkg-descr >> Flash is an attempt to create a secure menu-driver shell for UNIX-derived OSes, >> while providing user-friendliness and easy configurability. An ideal situation >> requiring the use of flash would be a student-run telnet server which needs to: >> >> a) shelter the users from some of the nastinesses of UNIX >> b) shelter the system from nasty users >> c) provide an easy way to launch applications >> d) support multitasking/job control as elegantly as possible >> e) support easy-to-get-right configuration by administrators > > Am 17.08.2014 um 13:56 schrieb William A. Mahaffey III : > >> >> one of my most haunted webpages is http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=htx&product=N0R&overlay=11111111&loop=yes to view local weather in motion .... when I just visited under FreeBSD 9.3, FF31, both 64-bit, it says it needs a plugin to proceed, but doesn't tell me what plugin. I guessed Adobe flash & 'pkg install flash-0.9.5', but still nogo (it was a WAG ....) .... any help w/ what plugin or package I need to view this webpage ? TIA .... >> >> >> -- >> >> William A. Mahaffey III >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war >> ever devised by man." >> -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 12:51:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F2ED680 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:51:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 427252507 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7HCpmZM017268 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 07:51:48 -0500 Message-ID: <53F0A6DB.7000106@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 07:58:03 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:51:52 -0000 On 08/17/14 06:58, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 06:56:27 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> one of my most haunted webpages is >> http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=htx&product=N0R&overlay=11111111&loop=yes >> to view local weather in motion .... when I just visited under FreeBSD >> 9.3, FF31, both 64-bit, it says it needs a plugin to proceed, but >> doesn't tell me what plugin. I guessed Adobe flash & 'pkg install >> flash-0.9.5', but still nogo (it was a WAG ....) .... any help w/ what >> plugin or package I need to view this webpage ? TIA .... > Follow the instructions in the Handbook, there are more > steps involved than just installing a package: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html > > See 7.2.1.2. > > The mentioned page works for me (FreeBSD 8.2, Opera 11.50, > linux-f10-flashplugin-10.3r183.5), so it should also work > with today's software. :-) > > OK, to install that port, all I should have to do is cd to /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper/ & type in 'make insatll', right ? Remember, new to FreeBSD :-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 13:06:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96FE27ED for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A35E25E6 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7F103CC22; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:06:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7HD612U002944; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:06:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:06:01 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? Message-Id: <20140817150601.fbb663e7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53F0A6DB.7000106@hiwaay.net> References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0A6DB.7000106@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:06:05 -0000 On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 07:58:03 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > OK, to install that port, all I should have to do is cd to > /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper/ & type in 'make insatll', right ? > Remember, new to FreeBSD :-) .... Yes, but that's only a part of the process. If I remember correctly, this also involves installing the Linux "Flash" (because there is no "Flash" plugin for FreeBSD) in combination with the Linux support subsystem. This dependency will be installed automatically, but it may take some time. As root, run # ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/ After installation, execute from your user's account: % nspluginwrapper -a -v -i Again, it's worth mentioning that following the steps in 7.2.1.2. should bring you the full functionality. Firefox has always been my "Flash"-free browser, whereas I use "Flash" with Opera, which works perfectly good and is also described in the Handbook. To repeat the relevant source: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html I'd like to mention that "Flash" support on FreeBSD isn't worse than on any other platform I've tried it, even if a native plugin is supplied. But for keeping up with the latest week's fashions of HTML5, Javascript frameworks, CSS tricks and so on, make sure to use a current browser. Firefox is the best solution currently available, but Chromium is also acceptable. The "web experience" on FreeBSD isn't inferior to other platforms. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 13:06:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E40CB824 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:06:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFB7B25E8 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:06:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7HD64eG023302 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:06:05 -0500 Message-ID: <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:12:19 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:06:09 -0000 On 08/17/14 06:58, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 06:56:27 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> one of my most haunted webpages is >> http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=htx&product=N0R&overlay=11111111&loop=yes >> to view local weather in motion .... when I just visited under FreeBSD >> 9.3, FF31, both 64-bit, it says it needs a plugin to proceed, but >> doesn't tell me what plugin. I guessed Adobe flash & 'pkg install >> flash-0.9.5', but still nogo (it was a WAG ....) .... any help w/ what >> plugin or package I need to view this webpage ? TIA .... > Follow the instructions in the Handbook, there are more > steps involved than just installing a package: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html > > See 7.2.1.2. > > The mentioned page works for me (FreeBSD 8.2, Opera 11.50, > linux-f10-flashplugin-10.3r183.5), so it should also work > with today's software. :-) > > OK, I just kicked off a 'make install' in /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper' & noticed 2 suspicious things: The port aparently uses the old pkg-tools to fetch stuff, while I am using pkgng for the rest of the system. I thought this would create problems, no ? If so, how come someone (ports maintainer ?) hasn't gone through & cleaned that up :-) ? 2nd, the make failed looking for some fedora compat files .... How come these weren't fetched & installed on the fly ? -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. 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From: Andreas Nilsson To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD X11 mailing list , FreeBSD Questions !!!! , owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:08:49 -0000 On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > On 08/17/14 04:08, flo@snakeoilproductions.net wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> On 2014-08-15 17:53, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >>> Xdm uses .xinitrc to start a "something" right? Please show your >>> .xinitrc >>> I guess you're trying to use xfce, have you verified that all required >>> packages are installed ( xfce, xorg-server, xf86-video*, xf86-input*? >>> What graphics hw are you using? Which xorg-stack ( new /old)? >>> Are you using a xorg.conf or using default on-the-fly-config? >>> Best regards >>> Andreas >>> >>> OK, here goes, see attached. Whenever I startx from the command line >>> after a console login, XFCE starts up & operates AOK, so I would guess >>> the install is OK. Gfx hw is a jaguar kabini CPU, w/ GPU on die w/ >>> CPU. >>> gfx is too new for X.org support, so I am using the vesa driver. >>> .xinitrc: exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 >>> >> >> Maybe I'm missing the point here entirely, but xdm uses $HOME/.xsession. >> A missing .xsession has quite the same symptoms, and since XFCE works >> fine after startx, >> which indeed uses $HOME/.xinitrc, you might try >> % echo 'exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4' >$HOME/.xsession >> and then restart xdm. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> florian >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > Long thread here, you could backtracck it if you're sufficiently > bored/motivated .... short answer is whenever I use the .xsession (i.e. xdm > managing the login), it doesn't work, pretty much no matter what I tried > .... I'm back to console login followed by startx, works for now .... > > > -- > > William A. Mahaffey III > Have you tried to use truss/dtrace to see what happens when startxfce4 is run? Or perhaps just editing startxfce4 script to have #!/bin/sh -x . The startxfce4 script seems to run the commands in xinitrc, found in .config/xfce4/xinitrc $HOME/.xfce4/.xinitrc or /usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc . Have a look at it, it might help you in your investigation. If you wish to pursue the further, that is. Best regards Andreas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 13:11:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 938631A8; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:11:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5715026DD; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:11:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7HDBMBM026414 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:11:23 -0500 Message-ID: <53F0AB71.20103@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:17:37 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD X11 mailing list , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <53EE2CF3.8030700@hiwaay.net> <53F095B4.3000206@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:11:24 -0000 On 08/17/14 08:08, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > > > > On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM, William A. Mahaffey III > > wrote: > > > On 08/17/14 04:08, flo@snakeoilproductions.net > wrote: > > Greetings, > > On 2014-08-15 17:53, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > Xdm uses .xinitrc to start a "something" right? Please > show your > .xinitrc > I guess you're trying to use xfce, have you verified > that all required > packages are installed ( xfce, xorg-server, > xf86-video*, xf86-input*? > What graphics hw are you using? Which xorg-stack ( new > /old)? > Are you using a xorg.conf or using default > on-the-fly-config? > Best regards > Andreas > > OK, here goes, see attached. Whenever I startx from the > command line > after a console login, XFCE starts up & operates AOK, > so I would guess > the install is OK. Gfx hw is a jaguar kabini CPU, w/ > GPU on die w/ CPU. > gfx is too new for X.org support, so I am using the > vesa driver. > .xinitrc: exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 > > > Maybe I'm missing the point here entirely, but xdm uses > $HOME/.xsession. > A missing .xsession has quite the same symptoms, and since > XFCE works fine after startx, > which indeed uses $HOME/.xinitrc, you might try > % echo 'exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4' >$HOME/.xsession > and then restart xdm. > > Sincerely, > > > florian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > > > Long thread here, you could backtracck it if you're sufficiently > bored/motivated .... short answer is whenever I use the .xsession > (i.e. xdm managing the login), it doesn't work, pretty much no > matter what I tried .... I'm back to console login followed by > startx, works for now .... > > > -- > > William A. Mahaffey III > > > Have you tried to use truss/dtrace to see what happens when startxfce4 > is run? > > Or perhaps just editing startxfce4 script to have #!/bin/sh -x . The > startxfce4 script seems to run the commands in xinitrc, found in > .config/xfce4/xinitrc $HOME/.xfce4/.xinitrc or > /usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc . Have a look at it, it might help > you in your investigation. > > If you wish to pursue the further, that is. > > Best regards > Andreas Thx, I'm OK for now .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 13:11:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E546262 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:11:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 311EB26ED for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:11:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E4F43CC79; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:11:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7HDBp59002999; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:11:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:11:51 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? Message-Id: <20140817151151.5527a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:11:54 -0000 On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:12:19 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > 2nd, the make failed looking for some fedora > compat files .... How come these weren't fetched & installed on the fly ? Oh, I thought that would be a dependency... install the linux_base-f10 port, it should include the dependencies. Make sure you have Linux ABI in the kernel (should be the default) and check if your /etc/fstab has linproc /compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 included. Remember: This is the _Linux_ version of "Flash" running via FreeBSD's alternative binary interface, so it expects certain Linux facilities to be present. The port mentioned provides those. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 13:14:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB7CE6B0 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:14:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from v45849.1blu.de (v45849.1blu.de [178.254.2.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E48A2725 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:14:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by v45849.1blu.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD1DC97A1519; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:14:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at jboy.eu Received: from v45849.1blu.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (v45849.1blu.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dyyLKjXi7jMq; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:14:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.116] (dslb-188-108-176-024.188.108.pools.vodafone-ip.de [188.108.176.24]) by v45849.1blu.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AA02697A054D; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:14:33 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? From: Jeremy Boy In-Reply-To: <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:14:32 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4EEB620D-FC63-4503-8354-833301543FD6@jboy.eu> References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> To: "William A. Mahaffey III" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:14:49 -0000 Am 17.08.2014 um 15:12 schrieb William A. Mahaffey III : >=20 > OK, I just kicked off a 'make install' in = /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper' & noticed 2 suspicious things: The port = aparently uses the old pkg-tools to fetch stuff, while I am using pkgng = for the rest of the system. I thought this would create problems, no ? = If so, how come someone (ports maintainer ?) hasn't gone through & = cleaned that up :-) ? Did you add "WITH_PKGNG=3Dyes" to your /etc/make.conf? If not, please do = so (without quotes, of course). This will indicate the ports collection = that you have pkgng installed.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 13:24:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73B1AC18 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:24:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22971280A for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:23:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7HDNwud000313 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:23:59 -0500 Message-ID: <53F0AE65.9000905@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:30:13 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Boy Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> <4EEB620D-FC63-4503-8354-833301543FD6@jboy.eu> In-Reply-To: <4EEB620D-FC63-4503-8354-833301543FD6@jboy.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:24:00 -0000 On 08/17/14 08:14, Jeremy Boy wrote: > Am 17.08.2014 um 15:12 schrieb William A. Mahaffey III : >> OK, I just kicked off a 'make install' in /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper' & noticed 2 suspicious things: The port aparently uses the old pkg-tools to fetch stuff, while I am using pkgng for the rest of the system. I thought this would create problems, no ? If so, how come someone (ports maintainer ?) hasn't gone through & cleaned that up :-) ? > Did you add "WITH_PKGNG=yes" to your /etc/make.conf? If not, please do so (without quotes, of course). This will indicate the ports collection that you have pkgng installed. > file wasn't there, I created it .... Thx .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 13:44:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3AC01CD for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:44:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 750F229B0 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:44:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7HDiXim016126 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:44:34 -0500 Message-ID: <53F0B338.2020608@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:50:48 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> <20140817151151.5527a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140817151151.5527a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:44:37 -0000 On 08/17/14 08:11, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:12:19 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> 2nd, the make failed looking for some fedora >> compat files .... How come these weren't fetched & installed on the fly ? > Oh, I thought that would be a dependency... install the > linux_base-f10 port, it should include the dependencies. > Make sure you have Linux ABI in the kernel (should be the > default) and check if your /etc/fstab has > > linproc /compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 > proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 > > included. Remember: This is the _Linux_ version of "Flash" > running via FreeBSD's alternative binary interface, so it > expects certain Linux facilities to be present. The port > mentioned provides those. > > > There was/is a pkg for this, I installed that & proceeded, it eventually finished. Now I am looking around for the actual flash plugin, mozilla doesn't have one (!!!!), any idea where to go for that ? TIA .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 13:54:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F7BE551 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:54:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 511E12AAE for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:54:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FA893CC96; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:54:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7HDsdJr003196; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:54:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:54:39 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? Message-Id: <20140817155439.e533c0ad.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53F0B338.2020608@hiwaay.net> References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> <20140817151151.5527a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0B338.2020608@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:54:42 -0000 On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:50:48 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > On 08/17/14 08:11, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:12:19 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> 2nd, the make failed looking for some fedora > >> compat files .... How come these weren't fetched & installed on the fly ? > > Oh, I thought that would be a dependency... install the > > linux_base-f10 port, it should include the dependencies. > > Make sure you have Linux ABI in the kernel (should be the > > default) and check if your /etc/fstab has > > > > linproc /compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 > > proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 > > > > included. Remember: This is the _Linux_ version of "Flash" > > running via FreeBSD's alternative binary interface, so it > > expects certain Linux facilities to be present. The port > > mentioned provides those. > > > > > > > > There was/is a pkg for this, I installed that & proceeded, it eventually > finished. Now I am looking around for the actual flash plugin, mozilla > doesn't have one (!!!!), any idea where to go for that ? TIA .... Make sure linproc is mounted (a reboot should be fine), and then run: % nspluginwrapper -a -v -i Afterwards, "about:plugins" should list it in Firefox. As I said, I'm not using "Flash" with Firefox, but with Opera, as described in the Handbook. Those steps should lead you to a functioning installation. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 15:59:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C4178DF for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:59:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B80AC26A0 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s7HFwuPJ066454; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:58:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C829F12423; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:58:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:58:55 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? Message-ID: <20140817155855.GA97753@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions !!!! References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> <20140817151151.5527a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0B338.2020608@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53F0B338.2020608@hiwaay.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:59:07 -0000 --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 08:50:48AM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >=20 > On 08/17/14 08:11, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:12:19 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> 2nd, the make failed looking for some fedora > >> compat files .... How come these weren't fetched & installed on the fl= y ? > > Oh, I thought that would be a dependency... install the > > linux_base-f10 port, it should include the dependencies. > > Make sure you have Linux ABI in the kernel (should be the > > default) and check if your /etc/fstab has > > > > linproc /compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 > > proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 > > > > included. Remember: This is the _Linux_ version of "Flash" > > running via FreeBSD's alternative binary interface, so it > > expects certain Linux facilities to be present. The port > > mentioned provides those. >=20 > There was/is a pkg for this, I installed that & proceeded, it eventually= =20 > finished. Now I am looking around for the actual flash plugin, mozilla=20 > doesn't have one (!!!!), any idea where to go for that ? TIA .... Have you followed the directions in https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html completely? Including running nspluginwrapper? You might want to remind the people running the website in question that the nineties have been over for some time now. Even Adobe is abandoning Flash (= at least on mobile devices) in favor os HTML5. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT8NE/AAoJEED21dyjijPgXY4P/1B0jGl3ddnRx3c0xpiCQGco iPQTjNtRxy0A+9bVyHMIXSRzRSeEsUZZi+HxNeuDweVomTcZAPxwyNMgRFu97uuK hsUyq8gSkd8PdbqNwrnn9P5aULUzmnppq2wvbkHnoyEq2Yv6bKuWV5waZsYv7Jje 33O44z8PuB/kQLnKstb+HnuSxIZosr4DOB0dwLJ7WNdMBCXoLd0DfF8KzKd0kFl0 nt4nmAsnza9+qLA4WUNmmLQnDhKWbPCIs3G9gAHhJEZ2ItFhG5CWS9/imW8r1nBO 3sk8Z6VXMi9/cMU9N8W/svtOQB8ab5soU0TxODMpw7sjFP2XRMjMAjLsozP52ZU5 Y41OVqOLZtmNsGOXyiC7DdpeUMXkgJ/lECg7LyC6PyVwwdjpbI+aL+h1mvO9FJjv oUCpsoXq5wllKygX8UnmCDf6dfCDq9qiMM7WeffXjHlwL89v2lAGivDrn555n49W ZF7hKotAWsy41qBbdE+Q5mOVYZdc063KHSMx/JxLi249s+7VrnAeKEf1CfIwjb6l oXAtdYun69yjtoOxQ1gggX9hoCBIeCzN09VUl2VB//2NqgI9BloAEkvkmM0AfEjO yO1jezfye2bKRFIaIRiId9ZurvoXQLy2V/JiHjLDiEhhqPmbRZJisDgVCXju+Xrc 1hxFXOoNdh7LeHGRaLA8 =/6mq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 16:03:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F0E1C3E for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x229.google.com (mail-wi0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06FFF2759 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:03:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f169.google.com with SMTP id n3so2726506wiv.0 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:03:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=l8JySqYWijGHcquu1ozpZi//LEzik37fiTHHOwvyM98=; b=ZqLHuZvuHmGacGN93Dej39TZ4VIA7LW8QMnt3digu0sd7wGpJHu/8u0LscojRlI8YN pS8WET2PnodKUV0rdg7c32Gd8DK0nVVOLfIQmJJPSPh+FJk63M++hwhx090z/WmO1xP3 QJ4/lOiqC5HTZpUmKNs8qlglxXuBqCWcZ7vJI5MGbf+gMq4TBN3xf1kW9I2O/WNhJj0i A+VeLRzmk9v9O7v31pUevql05HX8Frk51UWV9YIAU58MSWmqXVOXOlCFpAJyY2evCWG3 HA1SqZ1k5HdNxsfuEtr61LeGqO3vdtWqX2b43eBzJFECTd3YkYxktv6mL7rYjGoORqfc SQyA== X-Received: by 10.194.92.244 with SMTP id cp20mr1200113wjb.135.1408291398898; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (host86-139-236-106.range86-139.btcentralplus.com. [86.139.236.106]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ch5sm35203380wjb.18.2014.08.17.09.03.17 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53F0D244.5060807@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:03:16 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:03:21 -0000 On 17/08/2014 12:58, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 06:56:27 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> one of my most haunted webpages is >> http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=htx&product=N0R&overlay=11111111&loop=yes >> to view local weather in motion .... when I just visited under FreeBSD >> 9.3, FF31, both 64-bit, it says it needs a plugin to proceed, but >> doesn't tell me what plugin. I guessed Adobe flash & 'pkg install >> flash-0.9.5', but still nogo (it was a WAG ....) .... any help w/ what >> plugin or package I need to view this webpage ? TIA .... > Follow the instructions in the Handbook, there are more > steps involved than just installing a package: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html > > See 7.2.1.2. > > The mentioned page works for me (FreeBSD 8.2, Opera 11.50, > linux-f10-flashplugin-10.3r183.5), so it should also work > with today's software. :-) > > linux-f10-flashplugin is currently unavailable as one of its dependent package is marked as forbidden, i've not been able to get around it with the usual tricks so i've installed it against the c6-linux emulation package instead of the f10 one From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 16:14:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8A121AF for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BC76284E for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A56AA3CBF9; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:14:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7HGEg5i003047; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:14:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:14:42 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jamie Griffin Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? Message-Id: <20140817181442.8dc862dd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53F0D244.5060807@gmail.com> References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0D244.5060807@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:14:46 -0000 On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:03:16 +0100, Jamie Griffin wrote: > linux-f10-flashplugin is currently unavailable as one of its dependent > package is marked as forbidden, i've not been able to get around it with > the usual tricks so i've installed it against the c6-linux emulation > package instead of the f10 one Really? Uh, that's bad... Some time ago, I read that due to licensing, there are Linux ports that you can compile from source, but there won't be precompiled packages (as sources for pkg) for them. Wouldn't it be possible to determine which dependency is marked as forbidden, build that from source (and I assume obtaining the source for a "make install" run is _not_ forbidden) and continue from that point, either with ports or with binary packages? When I installed my system, I built all stuff from source, so the mentioned obstacle might not have hit me for that reason - or the obstacle is new. It's not that I install or update my home system every day... or week... or moth... or year... "never touch a running system"... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 16:19:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BAC6269 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:19:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 452E8287B for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:19:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7HGIxPr030975 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:19:00 -0500 Message-ID: <53F0D76A.5090807@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:25:14 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> <20140817151151.5527a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0B338.2020608@hiwaay.net> <20140817155439.e533c0ad.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140817155439.e533c0ad.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:19:04 -0000 On 08/17/14 08:54, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:50:48 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 08/17/14 08:11, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:12:19 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> 2nd, the make failed looking for some fedora >>>> compat files .... How come these weren't fetched & installed on the fly ? >>> Oh, I thought that would be a dependency... install the >>> linux_base-f10 port, it should include the dependencies. >>> Make sure you have Linux ABI in the kernel (should be the >>> default) and check if your /etc/fstab has >>> >>> linproc /compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 >>> proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 >>> >>> included. Remember: This is the _Linux_ version of "Flash" >>> running via FreeBSD's alternative binary interface, so it >>> expects certain Linux facilities to be present. The port >>> mentioned provides those. >>> >>> >>> >> There was/is a pkg for this, I installed that & proceeded, it eventually >> finished. Now I am looking around for the actual flash plugin, mozilla >> doesn't have one (!!!!), any idea where to go for that ? TIA .... > Make sure linproc is mounted (a reboot should be fine), and > then run: > > % nspluginwrapper -a -v -i > > Afterwards, "about:plugins" should list it in Firefox. As I > said, I'm not using "Flash" with Firefox, but with Opera, as > described in the Handbook. Those steps should lead you to a > functioning installation. :-) > > > about:plugins told me 'no plugins installed', which I already knew ;-) .... I have done the other 2 steps earlier .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 16:21:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CCFF308 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:21:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44C94290F for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:21:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7HGL6bf032218 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:21:06 -0500 Message-ID: <53F0D7E9.6060808@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:27:21 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> <20140817151151.5527a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0B338.2020608@hiwaay.net> <20140817155855.GA97753@slackbox.erewhon.home> In-Reply-To: <20140817155855.GA97753@slackbox.erewhon.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:21:10 -0000 On 08/17/14 10:58, Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 08:50:48AM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 08/17/14 08:11, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:12:19 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> 2nd, the make failed looking for some fedora >>>> compat files .... How come these weren't fetched & installed on the fly ? >>> Oh, I thought that would be a dependency... install the >>> linux_base-f10 port, it should include the dependencies. >>> Make sure you have Linux ABI in the kernel (should be the >>> default) and check if your /etc/fstab has >>> >>> linproc /compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 >>> proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 >>> >>> included. Remember: This is the _Linux_ version of "Flash" >>> running via FreeBSD's alternative binary interface, so it >>> expects certain Linux facilities to be present. The port >>> mentioned provides those. >> There was/is a pkg for this, I installed that & proceeded, it eventually >> finished. Now I am looking around for the actual flash plugin, mozilla >> doesn't have one (!!!!), any idea where to go for that ? TIA .... > Have you followed the directions in > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html completely? > Including running nspluginwrapper? > > You might want to remind the people running the website in question that the > nineties have been over for some time now. Even Adobe is abandoning Flash (at > least on mobile devices) in favor os HTML5. > > > Roland Word dat on old tech, it's a US-gov website (NOAA or subset), they might still be using that 20 years from now. I have followed those directions completely, AFAIK, I just can't find the actual flash plugin to load & use .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 16:23:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5E203E0 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:23:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9056D2933 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:23:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7HGNBYF001014 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:23:11 -0500 Message-ID: <53F0D865.3020806@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:29:25 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0D244.5060807@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <53F0D244.5060807@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:23:12 -0000 On 08/17/14 11:03, Jamie Griffin wrote: > > On 17/08/2014 12:58, Polytropon wrote: >> On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 06:56:27 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>> >>> one of my most haunted webpages is >>> http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=htx&product=N0R&overlay=11111111&loop=yes >>> >>> to view local weather in motion .... when I just visited under FreeBSD >>> 9.3, FF31, both 64-bit, it says it needs a plugin to proceed, but >>> doesn't tell me what plugin. I guessed Adobe flash & 'pkg install >>> flash-0.9.5', but still nogo (it was a WAG ....) .... any help w/ what >>> plugin or package I need to view this webpage ? TIA .... >> Follow the instructions in the Handbook, there are more >> steps involved than just installing a package: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html >> >> See 7.2.1.2. >> >> The mentioned page works for me (FreeBSD 8.2, Opera 11.50, >> linux-f10-flashplugin-10.3r183.5), so it should also work >> with today's software. :-) >> >> > linux-f10-flashplugin is currently unavailable as one of its dependent > package is marked as forbidden, i've not been able to get around it > with the usual tricks so i've installed it against the c6-linux > emulation package instead of the f10 one > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh .... that clarifies much :-/ .... can both of those emulations be installed at the same time, or is it remove f10, then install c6 ? -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 16:26:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31D59514 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:26:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEE642980 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:26:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7HGQBRr002832 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:26:11 -0500 Message-ID: <53F0D91A.6070608@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:32:26 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0A6DB.7000106@hiwaay.net> <20140817150601.fbb663e7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140817150601.fbb663e7.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:26:15 -0000 On 08/17/14 08:06, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 07:58:03 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> OK, to install that port, all I should have to do is cd to >> /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper/ & type in 'make insatll', right ? >> Remember, new to FreeBSD :-) .... > Yes, but that's only a part of the process. If I remember correctly, > this also involves installing the Linux "Flash" (because there is > no "Flash" plugin for FreeBSD) in combination with the Linux support > subsystem. This dependency will be installed automatically, but it > may take some time. > > As root, run > > # ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/ > > After installation, execute from your user's account: > > % nspluginwrapper -a -v -i > > Again, it's worth mentioning that following the steps in 7.2.1.2. > should bring you the full functionality. Firefox has always been > my "Flash"-free browser, whereas I use "Flash" with Opera, which > works perfectly good and is also described in the Handbook. > > To repeat the relevant source: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html > > I'd like to mention that "Flash" support on FreeBSD isn't worse > than on any other platform I've tried it, even if a native plugin > is supplied. But for keeping up with the latest week's fashions > of HTML5, Javascript frameworks, CSS tricks and so on, make sure > to use a current browser. Firefox is the best solution currently > available, but Chromium is also acceptable. The "web experience" > on FreeBSD isn't inferior to other platforms. > > I used to use/like Opera some years ago (on a 933 MHz P3, to date things), but it had a period when it was quite unstable, basically unusable, so I dumped it .... I would be perfectly willing to look at it again, you recommend ? -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 16:39:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 301C09D7 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:39:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E51AA2AC2 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:39:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E7F63CBBC; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:39:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7HGdUuG003106; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:39:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:39:30 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? Message-Id: <20140817183930.8a4a804a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53F0D7E9.6060808@hiwaay.net> References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> <20140817151151.5527a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0B338.2020608@hiwaay.net> <20140817155855.GA97753@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53F0D7E9.6060808@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:39:33 -0000 On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:27:21 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > Word dat on old tech, it's a US-gov website (NOAA or subset), they might > still be using that 20 years from now. I have followed those directions > completely, AFAIK, I just can't find the actual flash plugin to load & > use .... That's strange, but I have to admit that I also had problems getting "Flash" work in Firefox once. That's why I tried Opera and it worked immediately. Could you, just for reference, try that browser according to the instructions in the Handbook? If it works, make Opera your "'Flash' browser" and let Firefox be your "normal browser" for fast, unpolluted and secure web access. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 16:43:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C84FC05 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:43:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D289E2B73 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:43:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 140AF3CC54; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:43:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7HGhVrI003116; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:43:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:43:31 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? Message-Id: <20140817184331.d71e1791.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53F0D91A.6070608@hiwaay.net> References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0A6DB.7000106@hiwaay.net> <20140817150601.fbb663e7.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0D91A.6070608@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:43:34 -0000 On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:32:26 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > I used to use/like Opera some years ago (on a 933 MHz P3, to date > things), but it had a period when it was quite unstable, basically > unusable, so I dumped it .... I would be perfectly willing to look at it > again, you recommend ? Definitely. At least the older versions. I have read about new Opera development, primarily an exchange of the rendering component (HTML engine) as well as usability reconsiderations. I'm not sure if I would like the new Opera. I'm still using the 11.50 version (with "Flash") which is stable, fast, and nice to use. Especially mouse gestures and the excellent (!) keyboard support is something that I find superior to Firefox or Chromium. But my view definitely is not objective, because I'm using Opera since version 5 happily and almost exclusively. So they have been washing my brain for years. :-) If you don't mind, just try Opera for reference, simply to check if "Flash" works for you in that constellation. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 16:45:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C924CA1 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65AEB2B86 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7HGixlX014534 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:45:00 -0500 Message-ID: <53F0DD82.8010906@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:51:14 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> <20140817151151.5527a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0B338.2020608@hiwaay.net> <20140817155855.GA97753@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53F0D7E9.6060808@hiwaay.net> <20140817183930.8a4a804a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140817183930.8a4a804a.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:45:03 -0000 On 08/17/14 11:39, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:27:21 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> Word dat on old tech, it's a US-gov website (NOAA or subset), they might >> still be using that 20 years from now. I have followed those directions >> completely, AFAIK, I just can't find the actual flash plugin to load & >> use .... > That's strange, but I have to admit that I also had problems > getting "Flash" work in Firefox once. That's why I tried Opera > and it worked immediately. Could you, just for reference, try > that browser according to the instructions in the Handbook? > If it works, make Opera your "'Flash' browser" and let Firefox > be your "normal browser" for fast, unpolluted and secure web > access. > > > Already working in that direction ..... I got a few oddities when I did 'pkg install opera-12.16_2 opera-linuxplugins-12.16', 3 pkgs failed their POST-INSTALL .... unfortunately I have lost the output, did a 'makewhatis -v' & washed it away .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 16:49:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49B51E54 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:49:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB0502BB6 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:49:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7HGnDOT016916 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:49:13 -0500 Message-ID: <53F0DE80.6080906@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:55:28 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> <20140817151151.5527a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0B338.2020608@hiwaay.net> <20140817155855.GA97753@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53F0D7E9.6060808@hiwaay.net> <20140817183930.8a4a804a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140817183930.8a4a804a.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:49:17 -0000 On 08/17/14 11:39, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:27:21 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> Word dat on old tech, it's a US-gov website (NOAA or subset), they might >> still be using that 20 years from now. I have followed those directions >> completely, AFAIK, I just can't find the actual flash plugin to load & >> use .... > That's strange, but I have to admit that I also had problems > getting "Flash" work in Firefox once. That's why I tried Opera > and it worked immediately. Could you, just for reference, try > that browser according to the instructions in the Handbook? > If it works, make Opera your "'Flash' browser" and let Firefox > be your "normal browser" for fast, unpolluted and secure web > access. > > > I just popped it open, looks nice. Any way to import bookmarks/history from FF :-) ? -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 16:53:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2BAE49F for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:53:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.qcislands.net (mail.qcislands.net [23.235.65.68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D19B32D00 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:53:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.qcislands.net ([23.235.65.68]) by mail.qcislands.net with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XJ3ZU-000DXv-6j for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:44:44 -0700 Received: from 254-68-235-23.qcislands.net ([23.235.68.254]) by mail.qcislands.net with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:44:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:44:33 -0700 From: Jim Pazarena To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: apache24 and =?UTF-8?Q?accf=5Fhttp=20Accept=20Filter?= Message-ID: X-Sender: fquest@paz.bz User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.0.1 X-local_scan: locally submitted (8) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:53:27 -0000 My upgrade to apache24 from 22 met an error about the Accept Filter. I never had to deal with this before. So research shows that I should run "kldload accf_http". Which works, and apache24 now executes. My question is, where is the correct location to place the "kldload accf_http" directive? I'm guessing "loader.conf", but that doesn't look right. Thanks for advice. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 16:55:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E877C56B for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1EE82D15 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7HGtIKs020350 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:55:18 -0500 Message-ID: <53F0DFEC.6060104@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:01:32 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> <20140817151151.5527a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0B338.2020608@hiwaay.net> <20140817155855.GA97753@slackbox.erewhon.home> In-Reply-To: <20140817155855.GA97753@slackbox.erewhon.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:55:22 -0000 On 08/17/14 10:58, Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 08:50:48AM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 08/17/14 08:11, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:12:19 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> 2nd, the make failed looking for some fedora >>>> compat files .... How come these weren't fetched & installed on the fly ? >>> Oh, I thought that would be a dependency... install the >>> linux_base-f10 port, it should include the dependencies. >>> Make sure you have Linux ABI in the kernel (should be the >>> default) and check if your /etc/fstab has >>> >>> linproc /compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 >>> proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 >>> >>> included. Remember: This is the _Linux_ version of "Flash" >>> running via FreeBSD's alternative binary interface, so it >>> expects certain Linux facilities to be present. The port >>> mentioned provides those. >> There was/is a pkg for this, I installed that & proceeded, it eventually >> finished. Now I am looking around for the actual flash plugin, mozilla >> doesn't have one (!!!!), any idea where to go for that ? TIA .... > Have you followed the directions in > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html completely? > Including running nspluginwrapper? > > You might want to remind the people running the website in question that the > nineties have been over for some time now. Even Adobe is abandoning Flash (at > least on mobile devices) in favor os HTML5. > > > Roland I just tried following the directions on the above URL for opera w/ flash & I get the following: \===> Found saved configuration for linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.346 ===> linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.346 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found => install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/flashplugin/11.2r202.346. => Attempting to fetch http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.2.202.346/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz fetch: http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.2.202.346/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz: Not Found => Attempting to fetch http://distcache.FreeBSD.org/ports-distfiles/flashplugin/11.2r202.346/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz fetch: http://distcache.FreeBSD.org/ports-distfiles/flashplugin/11.2r202.346/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz: Not Found => Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this => port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/flashplugin/11.2r202.346 and try again. *** [do-fetch] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin11. *** [install] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin11. [root@kabini1, linux-f10-flashplugin11, 11:59:01am] 419 % -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 17:03:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB6E2A4D for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:03:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B1A02E3E for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:03:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EABB13CC00; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:03:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7HH34Iu003263; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:03:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:03:04 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? Message-Id: <20140817190304.d5a3f7a7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53F0DD82.8010906@hiwaay.net> References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> <20140817151151.5527a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0B338.2020608@hiwaay.net> <20140817155855.GA97753@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53F0D7E9.6060808@hiwaay.net> <20140817183930.8a4a804a.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0DD82.8010906@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:03:06 -0000 On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:51:14 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > Already working in that direction ..... I got a few oddities when I did > 'pkg install opera-12.16_2 opera-linuxplugins-12.16', 3 pkgs failed > their POST-INSTALL .... unfortunately I have lost the output, did a > 'makewhatis -v' & washed it away .... In such cases, try building from source: # cd /usr/ports/www/opera # make install # cd /usr/ports/www/opera-linuxplugins # make install Again, make sure linproc is mounted (mentioned earlier). The about:plugins page should then list the following: Plug-ins [J] Enable plug-ins Refresh plug-ins [ ] Details > Shockwave Flash Disable Description: Shockwave Flash 10.3 r183 /usr/local/lib/npapi/symlinks/linux-opera/libflashplayer.so Really - I didn't do more than what was written in the handbook to get this working. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 17:13:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DD48E20 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:13:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DBE72FF4 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:13:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5478F3CC2E; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:13:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7HHDtvN003295; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:13:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:13:55 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? Message-Id: <20140817191355.878b8dc1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53F0DE80.6080906@hiwaay.net> References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> <20140817151151.5527a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0B338.2020608@hiwaay.net> <20140817155855.GA97753@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53F0D7E9.6060808@hiwaay.net> <20140817183930.8a4a804a.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0DE80.6080906@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:13:58 -0000 On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:55:28 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > I just popped it open, looks nice. Any way to import bookmarks/history > from FF :-) ? I see File -> Import and Export -> Import Firefox Bookmarks... (I've re-enabled the menu bar), so this seems to be the required function. For browsing history, I don't see anything that fits... :-( -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[86.139.236.106]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id xn12sm29106529wib.13.2014.08.17.10.22.48 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 10:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53F0E4E7.2090000@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:22:47 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0D244.5060807@gmail.com> <53F0D865.3020806@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <53F0D865.3020806@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:22:52 -0000 On 17/08/2014 17:29, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > On 08/17/14 11:03, Jamie Griffin wrote: >> >> On 17/08/2014 12:58, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 06:56:27 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> >>>> one of my most haunted webpages is >>>> http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=htx&product=N0R&overlay=11111111&loop=yes >>>> >>>> to view local weather in motion .... when I just visited under FreeBSD >>>> 9.3, FF31, both 64-bit, it says it needs a plugin to proceed, but >>>> doesn't tell me what plugin. I guessed Adobe flash & 'pkg install >>>> flash-0.9.5', but still nogo (it was a WAG ....) .... any help w/ what >>>> plugin or package I need to view this webpage ? TIA .... >>> Follow the instructions in the Handbook, there are more >>> steps involved than just installing a package: >>> >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html >>> >>> See 7.2.1.2. >>> >>> The mentioned page works for me (FreeBSD 8.2, Opera 11.50, >>> linux-f10-flashplugin-10.3r183.5), so it should also work >>> with today's software. :-) >>> >>> >> linux-f10-flashplugin is currently unavailable as one of its >> dependent package is marked as forbidden, i've not been able to get >> around it with the usual tricks so i've installed it against the >> c6-linux emulation package instead of the f10 one >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh .... that clarifies much :-/ .... can both of those > emulations be installed at the same time, or is it remove f10, then > install c6 ? > You can only use one linux emulation system but the c6 one isn't ready really, I went ahead with it, albeit foolishly, to get some of the linux things installed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 17:46:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57FCF963 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:46:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16BC922C0 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:46:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [188.96.38.167] (helo=michael-think) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XJ4Wl-0001Jl-ME; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:45:59 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "FreeBSD Questions" , "Jim Pazarena" Subject: Re: apache24 and accf_http Accept Filter References: Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:45:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.98.4/19288/Sun Aug 17 13:27:34 2014) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:46:09 -0000 On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:44:33 +0200, Jim Pazarena wrote: > My upgrade to apache24 from 22 met an error about the Accept Filter. > I never had to deal with this before. > So research shows that I should run "kldload accf_http". > Which works, and apache24 now executes. > My question is, where is the correct location to place the > "kldload accf_http" directive? I'm guessing "loader.conf", but that > doesn't look right. > > Thanks for advice. You should put apache24_http_accept_enable="YES" into /etc/rc.conf The apache rc script takes care of the module loading. Michael > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 18:15:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86E68581 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:15:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A27A2677 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:15:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout08 with smtp id fuFk1o005516WCc01uFl3M; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:15:45 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=TaoYtHgh c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=BVrUE-MfOT8A:10 a=1P_X_b0aQmIA:10 a=dhRRXARFD8AA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=UbDw0iXKSUAA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=l-EXe5mVUUOzvH9fnEAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=c6Fyu4UQvjcA:10 a=hXhKWAyHTIgA:10 a=ulrZU65L6FcA:10 Received: from curlew ([192.168.1.13] helo=curlew.lan) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1XJ4zX-0008Ni-OK for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:15:44 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:15:41 +0100 Message-ID: <2804129.H8Ga0kEX5R@curlew.lan> User-Agent: KMail/4.12.5 (FreeBSD/10.0-RELEASE-p7; KDE/4.12.5; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Subject: How to force poudriere to build mod_php5 for apache22 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:15:54 -0000 I'm trying to build apache22 and mod_php5 with poudriere but it keeps pulling in apache24. I've tried adding DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=apache=2.2 and USE_APACHE=22 in /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/10-0x64-make.conf, both singly and together but without success -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 18:48:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D3145FC for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:48:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D6E215E for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:48:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75E6F46B09 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:48:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s7HImMO9070000 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:48:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s7HImL4v069996 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:48:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:48:21 -0400 (EDT) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: how to encourage a wireless driver to exist? In-Reply-To: <003e01cfb9db$8c11b1e0$a43515a0$@dcollins.info> Message-ID: References: <003e01cfb9db$8c11b1e0$a43515a0$@dcollins.info> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:48:22 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:48:23 -0000 On Sun, 17 Aug 2014, dbc wrote: > Hello, > > I have a new laptop which I'm well sick of having to run linux on. Is there > a way to encourage someone to write a driver for intel 7260 wifi card? > > I am a C programmer, and I would be willing to volunteer time, but I don't > know how useful I will be with neither driver writing nor wifi protocol nor > FreeBSD development process experience. Still, if anyone would point me in > the right direction I would happily give it a shot. Where can this stuff be > learnt? I also see that linux drivers exist, but I'm not sure about legal > problems when copying from those. > > Or, while I probably couldn't afford to fund it entirely myself, is there a > way I could chip into a pot to help fund someone with more experience to at > least make a start on it? > I too am in this boat, except for having any C skills :) My last two laptops have had no wireless support or in the case of my Dell also no support past the Vesa driver for the video card. I would also be willing to contribute funding for some relief to the wireless issue. I think probably the BSD Foundation would be the best vehicle. It seems to me however that one driver at a time is not a very general solution. I have tried the windows wrapper with zero success. First perhaps a discussion to determine if there is enough interest (i.e., money). I personally suspect our boat is a row boat). Then proceed on how a more general solution might be done. My solution to the wireless problem has been an Apple Airport Extreme and a cable. An iphone also works as an access point (but not for too long). I still think a path to growing new committers is to make it as easy as possible to use FreeBSD as a workstation. In my case, I was an IBM internals developer and would have never started thinking in Unix without the experience of making Xfree86 and then Xorg work (it took me long enough as it was). I do not want to use the desktop FreeBSDs because my path for going to the next major version is desktop --> internal systems --> production systems. If there are not enough people that either want to work like I do or think my general argument has merit, the only way to have a fully functional FreeBSD desktop is buy hardware [very] carefully. And we then must look to the FreeBSD desktops to 'recruit' the next generation of developers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 19:13:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EACEFFC8 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:13:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98D4E2507 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:13:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7HJDOn9025846 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:13:25 -0500 Message-ID: <53F1004B.4080205@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:19:39 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> <20140817151151.5527a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0B338.2020608@hiwaay.net> <20140817155855.GA97753@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53F0D7E9.6060808@hiwaay.net> <20140817183930.8a4a804a.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0DE80.6080906@hiwaay.net> <20140817191355.878b8dc1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140817191355.878b8dc1.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:13:31 -0000 On 08/17/14 12:13, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:55:28 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> I just popped it open, looks nice. Any way to import bookmarks/history >> from FF :-) ? > I see File -> Import and Export -> Import Firefox Bookmarks... > (I've re-enabled the menu bar), so this seems to be the > required function. For browsing history, I don't see anything > that fits... :-( > Thx, that got the bookmarks, but not any history .... any clues on that ? TIA .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 19:34:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58456A32 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:34:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04CFE26BD for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:34:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7HJYJLC006770 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:34:19 -0500 Message-ID: <53F10531.8010508@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:40:33 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> <20140817151151.5527a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0B338.2020608@hiwaay.net> <20140817155855.GA97753@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53F0D7E9.6060808@hiwaay.net> <20140817183930.8a4a804a.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0DE80.6080906@hiwaay.net> <20140817191355.878b8dc1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140817191355.878b8dc1.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:34:23 -0000 On 08/17/14 12:13, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:55:28 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> I just popped it open, looks nice. Any way to import bookmarks/history >> from FF :-) ? > I see File -> Import and Export -> Import Firefox Bookmarks... > (I've re-enabled the menu bar), so this seems to be the > required function. For browsing history, I don't see anything > that fits... :-( > While we're at it, how to set my own homepage ? -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 19:47:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D912D581 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 971FB27E8 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1EF13CBE6; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:47:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7HJlg4B003817; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:47:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:47:42 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? Message-Id: <20140817214742.d67a18b2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53F10531.8010508@hiwaay.net> References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> <20140817151151.5527a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0B338.2020608@hiwaay.net> <20140817155855.GA97753@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53F0D7E9.6060808@hiwaay.net> <20140817183930.8a4a804a.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0DE80.6080906@hiwaay.net> <20140817191355.878b8dc1.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F10531.8010508@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:47:45 -0000 On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:40:33 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > While we're at it, how to set my own homepage ? Which browser? At the moment, I can just answer for Opera: Go to the page you want to be your homepage. Press Alt+P (Preferences), first tab is "General", and you'll see: Start with home page (or with the tabs open from last session, or no tabs at all, just as you like), next line with a button "Use Current". The home page is set. OK. The home page can be accessed immediately by pressing Ctrl+Space. If no tab is open, one will be opened auto- matically, or the current tab will be used. But I think in Firefox the setting can be done in a similar way (check Edit -> Preferences). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 20:31:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC62C89A for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay-h21.telenor.se (smtprelay-h21.telenor.se [195.54.99.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CB7E2CF8 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:31:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (ipb2.telenor.se [195.54.127.165]) by smtprelay-h21.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47FEE24443 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:08:16 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [83.227.225.121] X-LISTENER: [smtp.bredband.net] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgcJAG4L8VNT4+F5PGdsb2JhbABYgw1TV8wzAh0KhwVTAYEMFwUBAQEBODaEAwEBAQECAQEBASQnCBgLBQsLGAklDwUTAQUECAoaCAcEAQgUBIgZDAEIwQQXiX+EfAEBTweDL4EdBYYRjzqDdYMBAYFXlws7LweBCIFAAQEB X-IPAS-Result: AgcJAG4L8VNT4+F5PGdsb2JhbABYgw1TV8wzAh0KhwVTAYEMFwUBAQEBODaEAwEBAQECAQEBASQnCBgLBQsLGAklDwUTAQUECAoaCAcEAQgUBIgZDAEIwQQXiX+EfAEBTweDL4EdBYYRjzqDdYMBAYFXlws7LweBCIFAAQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,880,1400018400"; d="scan'208";a="59133668" Received: from ua-83-227-225-121.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO ymer.thorshammare.org) ([83.227.225.121]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 17 Aug 2014 22:08:15 +0200 Received: from ymer.thorshammare.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ymer.thorshammare.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7HK8L9C007916 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:08:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hasse@ymer.thorshammare.org) Received: (from hasse@localhost) by ymer.thorshammare.org (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id s7HK8LtW007915; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:08:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hasse) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:08:21 +0200 From: Hasse Hansson To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? Message-ID: <20140817200821.GA7252@ymer.thorshammare.org> References: <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> <20140817151151.5527a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0B338.2020608@hiwaay.net> <20140817155855.GA97753@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53F0D7E9.6060808@hiwaay.net> <20140817183930.8a4a804a.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0DE80.6080906@hiwaay.net> <20140817191355.878b8dc1.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F10531.8010508@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53F10531.8010508@hiwaay.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at mailhub3.thorshammare.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:31:18 -0000 --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 02:40:33PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >=20 > On 08/17/14 12:13, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:55:28 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> I just popped it open, looks nice. Any way to import bookmarks/history > >> from FF :-) ? > > I see File -> Import and Export -> Import Firefox Bookmarks... > > (I've re-enabled the menu bar), so this seems to be the > > required function. For browsing history, I don't see anything > > that fits... :-( > > >=20 > While we're at it, how to set my own homepage ? >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. > Hello. Following you a bit on your journey to a "Perfect Laptop", it comes to my m= ind, did you have a look at PCBSD ? http://www.pcbsd.org/ or is it not apropiate in your case ? /All the best Hasse =20 > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT8Qu1AAoJEOmXrgbZ1M7sR6sH/iKZhXkonSCUPo8bOxJQFKWy nBufC+yyyyz4GGHTgcroTdfDEqeZ4uNsMpWikkckzwi5UfgPpuyo+W8pzzXRSXrB Mctq1lyl4rVZ8CurBPVQKex7pEhuMAdW4VhXCrQmyNksm1X2Ns3qIdxNsTRNocUw jJatB1gu8+MDHwCDMaw7FP7XKEbeeGTN1sWw6uvH8AXZOZ9bqDAMMCBGNNP/YwCb v3lZIIxdJPIuVtBHZneMRUZBYHLRBGmbOLhXBJSLjGed8oAaihyHA2ep+dbEO4sD s/SsGWS9NyLPzLlFJABTkLGcgH/ogtyajCBnvQO+vs7nnS9Pt8P87qlux3esApM= =+969 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 20:43:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4215B5 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:43:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69D233020 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:43:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7HKhjjw017786 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:43:45 -0500 Message-ID: <53F11578.6050207@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:50:00 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? References: <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> <20140817151151.5527a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0B338.2020608@hiwaay.net> <20140817155855.GA97753@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53F0D7E9.6060808@hiwaay.net> <20140817183930.8a4a804a.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0DE80.6080906@hiwaay.net> <20140817191355.878b8dc1.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F10531.8010508@hiwaay.net> <20140817200821.GA7252@ymer.thorshammare.org> In-Reply-To: <20140817200821.GA7252@ymer.thorshammare.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:43:47 -0000 On 08/17/14 15:08, Hasse Hansson wrote: > On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 02:40:33PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 08/17/14 12:13, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:55:28 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> I just popped it open, looks nice. Any way to import bookmarks/history >>>> from FF :-) ? >>> I see File -> Import and Export -> Import Firefox Bookmarks... >>> (I've re-enabled the menu bar), so this seems to be the >>> required function. For browsing history, I don't see anything >>> that fits... :-( >>> >> While we're at it, how to set my own homepage ? >> >> -- >> >> William A. Mahaffey III >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war >> ever devised by man." >> -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >> > Hello. > Following you a bit on your journey to a "Perfect Laptop", it comes to my mind, > did you have a look at PCBSD ? http://www.pcbsd.org/ > or is it not apropiate in your case ? > /All the best Hasse > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Not a laptop, a desktop ;-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 20:45:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7B0B2B8 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:45:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BB5A3040 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:45:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7HKjpOH018487 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:45:51 -0500 Message-ID: <53F115F6.50008@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:52:06 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> <20140817151151.5527a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0B338.2020608@hiwaay.net> <20140817155855.GA97753@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53F0D7E9.6060808@hiwaay.net> <20140817183930.8a4a804a.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0DE80.6080906@hiwaay.net> <20140817191355.878b8dc1.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F10531.8010508@hiwaay.net> <20140817214742.d67a18b2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140817214742.d67a18b2.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:45:55 -0000 On 08/17/14 14:47, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:40:33 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> While we're at it, how to set my own homepage ? > Which browser? > > At the moment, I can just answer for Opera: > > Go to the page you want to be your homepage. Press Alt+P > (Preferences), first tab is "General", and you'll see: > Start with home page (or with the tabs open from last > session, or no tabs at all, just as you like), next line > with a button "Use Current". The home page is set. OK. > > The home page can be accessed immediately by pressing > Ctrl+Space. If no tab is open, one will be opened auto- > matically, or the current tab will be used. > > But I think in Firefox the setting can be done in a > similar way (check Edit -> Preferences). > > > Aaaaahhhhh, I couldn't seem to get to that dialog any other way .... Thx :-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 20:47:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF78C54E for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACC5B306E for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82E0E3CC39; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:47:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7HKlUj9002253; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:47:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:47:30 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? Message-Id: <20140817224730.e3cc1fb0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53F115F6.50008@hiwaay.net> References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> <20140817151151.5527a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0B338.2020608@hiwaay.net> <20140817155855.GA97753@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53F0D7E9.6060808@hiwaay.net> <20140817183930.8a4a804a.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0DE80.6080906@hiwaay.net> <20140817191355.878b8dc1.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F10531.8010508@hiwaay.net> <20140817214742.d67a18b2.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F115F6.50008@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:47:39 -0000 On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:52:06 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > On 08/17/14 14:47, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:40:33 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> While we're at it, how to set my own homepage ? > > Which browser? > > > > At the moment, I can just answer for Opera: > > > > Go to the page you want to be your homepage. Press Alt+P > > (Preferences), first tab is "General", and you'll see: > > Start with home page (or with the tabs open from last > > session, or no tabs at all, just as you like), next line > > with a button "Use Current". The home page is set. OK. > > > > The home page can be accessed immediately by pressing > > Ctrl+Space. If no tab is open, one will be opened auto- > > matically, or the current tab will be used. > > > > But I think in Firefox the setting can be done in a > > similar way (check Edit -> Preferences). > > > > > > > > Aaaaahhhhh, I couldn't seem to get to that dialog any other way .... Thx > :-) .... If you have the menu enabled, it's Tools -> Preferences (or Alt+P or Ctrl+PF12). I know it takes some time to configure Opera into a state where it's usable. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 20:48:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2206A669 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:48:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x22b.google.com (mail-pd0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFE683087 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:48:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f171.google.com with SMTP id z10so6243180pdj.30 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:48:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JVbLPcDJ/0mKJSRciKln1zkEYo/8uG5Bs2et2BzRTvs=; b=ABGdj/HGx62/wiNebRMlRxgTl6eE0uT0DZ7turGOzRFiWDmu5WKMnDEwK75fZxaquD 0EsNktmOf+OAp5JSy8lPjzs301IXxpjOxAMlGpn358PHCt1xRCkpiSGXeuk0y8hJ9ptD wtQQ+fxvyhEd9Qch98oEoLFOf/57KBgG8qx8LX/Sr1dOcQVssgC4YljlDroo4NWvAkdX SgW60jz1oSqhX4WhsdhS8rwxuaFmz2T/Mr/2wS6WHspmhlzfLelcIBv3JlFsU3ywuUuC 765ZHFM9cInioxfRQ8dpFyyr4XRvHDY+KuosWH7QC3RKMGOKQ55XDqpy+UxTncCdHG1o NX5g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.143.165 with SMTP id sf5mr29649309pbb.103.1408308520611; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.86.8 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:48:40 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Switching desktops From: Brian Wood To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Brian Wood Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:48:41 -0000 This is on PCBSD 10. When I login my choices are KDE and Fluxbox. I'd like to try blackbox or xfce. I've built blackbox, but am not sure how to try it. Thanks -- Brian Ebenezer Enterprises - In G-d we trust. http://webEbenezer.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 20:51:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF17C70F for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:51:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 395563118 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:51:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s7HKgo77070396; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:42:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <53F113CA.1030100@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:42:50 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Ulrich Kruppa , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sh stdout/stderr redirection problem References: <53EF6979.2080708@pukruppa.de> In-Reply-To: <53EF6979.2080708@pukruppa.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:51:34 -0000 On 2014-08-16 16:23, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: > Hi, > > I have got a python3.4 script which I can start from an rc.d script as a > daemon this way: > > daemon -p /var/run/my.pid /path/to/python3.4 /path/to/myscript.py > > > /path/to/python3.4 /path/to/myscript.py produces interesting messages on > stdout and stderr, so I would like to collect them in /var/log/my.log . > I have tried all kinds of combinations of >>'s and 2>&1's but either I > catch daemon's output which is nothing or the script won't start anymore. > > Any ideas? - Thanks for your help > Try man logger. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 20:52:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 249E987D for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCA4A3128 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:52:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7HKqg1a020750 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:52:43 -0500 Message-ID: <53F11791.6090501@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:58:57 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? References: <53F0986B.2000604@hiwaay.net> <20140817135824.78df3203.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0AA33.3050605@hiwaay.net> <20140817151151.5527a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0B338.2020608@hiwaay.net> <20140817155855.GA97753@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53F0D7E9.6060808@hiwaay.net> <20140817183930.8a4a804a.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0DE80.6080906@hiwaay.net> <20140817191355.878b8dc1.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F10531.8010508@hiwaay.net> <20140817214742.d67a18b2.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F115F6.50008@hiwaay.net> <20140817224730.e3cc1fb0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140817224730.e3cc1fb0.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:52:47 -0000 On 08/17/14 15:47, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:52:06 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 08/17/14 14:47, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:40:33 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> While we're at it, how to set my own homepage ? >>> Which browser? >>> >>> At the moment, I can just answer for Opera: >>> >>> Go to the page you want to be your homepage. Press Alt+P >>> (Preferences), first tab is "General", and you'll see: >>> Start with home page (or with the tabs open from last >>> session, or no tabs at all, just as you like), next line >>> with a button "Use Current". The home page is set. OK. >>> >>> The home page can be accessed immediately by pressing >>> Ctrl+Space. If no tab is open, one will be opened auto- >>> matically, or the current tab will be used. >>> >>> But I think in Firefox the setting can be done in a >>> similar way (check Edit -> Preferences). >>> >>> >>> >> Aaaaahhhhh, I couldn't seem to get to that dialog any other way .... Thx >> :-) .... > If you have the menu enabled, it's Tools -> Preferences > (or Alt+P or Ctrl+PF12). I know it takes some time to > configure Opera into a state where it's usable. ;-) > > > It's going well, list is very helpful. I did try to follow the directions on http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html to build flash support for opera, & the build failed: [root@kabini1, linux-f10-flashplugin11, 12:05:48pm] 435 % make clean ===> Cleaning for linux-f10-atk-1.24.0 ===> Cleaning for linux-f10-cairo-1.8.0_2 ===> Cleaning for linux-f10-expat-2.0.1 ===> Cleaning for linux-f10-fontconfig-2.6.0 ===> Cleaning for linux-f10-gtk2-2.14.7_4 ===> Cleaning for linux-f10-jpeg-6b ===> Cleaning for linux-f10-pango-1.28.3_1 ===> Cleaning for linux-f10-png-1.2.37_2 ===> Cleaning for linux-f10-tiff-3.8.2 ===> Cleaning for linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 ===> Cleaning for linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.346 [root@kabini1, linux-f10-flashplugin11, 3:53:44pm] 436 % make install clean ===> Found saved configuration for linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.346 ===> linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.346 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found => install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/flashplugin/11.2r202.346. => Attempting to fetch http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.2.202.346/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz fetch: http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.2.202.346/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz: Not Found => Attempting to fetch http://distcache.FreeBSD.org/ports-distfiles/flashplugin/11.2r202.346/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz fetch: http://distcache.FreeBSD.org/ports-distfiles/flashplugin/11.2r202.346/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz: Not Found => Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this => port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/flashplugin/11.2r202.346 and try again. *** [do-fetch] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin11. *** [install] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin11. [root@kabini1, linux-f10-flashplugin11, 3:53:56pm] 437 % not sure what's going on here .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 20:58:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7FAB5999 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:58:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C713161 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:58:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pd2mr1so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.110]) by pd2mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 17 Aug 2014 14:57:32 -0600 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=s+0R4JzlRBUW8GXF//6L4/AwYJegyFoFyppZH3AfVto= c=1 sm=1 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=QPYhx7W9sfwA:10 a=avf4G89Y-loA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=62_vod_WXQ8Y6qGdSrYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO cds005.dcs.int.inet) ([10.0.141.22]) by pd2mr1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 17 Aug 2014 14:57:32 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: apache24 and accf_http Accept Filter References: From: Dale Scott MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:57:32 -0600 (MDT) To: Michael Ross X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.1.4_GA_2567 (MobileSync - Apple-iPad2C5/1104.257) Cc: Jim Pazarena , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:58:40 -0000 > On Aug 17, 2014, at 11:46 AM, "Michael Ross" wrote: >=20 >> On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:44:33 +0200, Jim Pazarena wrote: >>=20 >> My upgrade to apache24 from 22 met an error about the Accept Filter. >> I never had to deal with this before. >> So research shows that I should run "kldload accf_http". >> Which works, and apache24 now executes. >> My question is, where is the correct location to place the >> "kldload accf_http" directive? I'm guessing "loader.conf", but that doe= sn't look right. >>=20 >> Thanks for advice. >=20 > You should put >=20 > apache24_http_accept_enable=3D"YES" >=20 > into /etc/rc.conf >=20 > The apache rc script takes care of the module loading. Why is apache24_http_accept_enable required? Instructions generally indicat= e to set both, but I only have apache24_enable in rc.conf and all seems to = work ok (apache24 is used to serve phpldapadmin only). Can anyone explain w= hy? Dale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 21:07:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1A05CCC for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:07:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2lp0209.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.209]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 52F873279 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:07:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:3cfa:1b41:db29:34df] (2601:2:4780:2fd:3cfa:1b41:db29:34df) by BY1PR0301MB0840.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.193.146) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1005.10; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:07:28 +0000 Message-ID: <53F1198B.2030105@my.hennepintech.edu> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:07:23 -0500 From: Andrew Berg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Wood , Subject: Re: Switching desktops References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [2601:2:4780:2fd:3cfa:1b41:db29:34df] X-ClientProxiedBy: BY2PR03CA044.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.141.249.17) To BY1PR0301MB0840.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.193.146) X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;UriScan:; X-Forefront-PRVS: 0306EE2ED4 X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019005)(6009001)(199003)(189002)(24454002)(21056001)(31966008)(86362001)(33656002)(85852003)(23676002)(106356001)(50466002)(64126003)(15975445006)(83072002)(74662001)(74502001)(89122001)(102836001)(92726001)(59896002)(88552001)(99396002)(107046002)(107886001)(47776003)(101416001)(46102001)(221733001)(20776003)(92566001)(87976001)(77982001)(19273905006)(83322001)(79102001)(95666004)(80316001)(19580395003)(50986999)(80022001)(83506001)(65806001)(65956001)(42186005)(105586002)(15202345003)(77096002)(81542001)(85306004)(76482001)(87266999)(4396001)(64706001)(75432001)(76176999)(54356999)(81342001)(65816999)(89472002)(3826002)(563064011); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BY1PR0301MB0840; H:[IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:3cfa:1b41:db29:34df]; FPR:; MLV:nov; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:0; MX:1; LANG:en; Received-SPF: None (protection.outlook.com: my.HennepinTech.edu does not designate permitted sender hosts) Authentication-Results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=aberg010@my.HennepinTech.edu; X-OriginatorOrg: my.hennepintech.edu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:07:38 -0000 On 2014.08.17 15:48, Brian Wood wrote: > This is on PCBSD 10. When I login my choices are > KDE and Fluxbox. I'd like to try blackbox or xfce. I've > built blackbox, but am not sure how to try it. Thanks > I recommend using the PC-BSD-specific lists (or IRC channels) and documentation since the PC-BSD utilities are covered much better there. While PC-BSD is indeed FreeBSD at its core, most interaction with it is through the specific desktop utilities they provide, and only a few people on the general FreeBSD lists are really familiar with PC-BSD beyond the very basics. XFCE is a first-class DE on PC-BSD, and switching to it should be a breeze using the Package Manager. A quick look at the docs suggests that blackbox will need to be installed using the "Advanced View" (which is what accesses the bulk of applications available for FreeBSD that are not specifically blessed by PC-BSD - known as the standard binary packages in vanilla FreeBSD land). http://lists.pcbsd.org/mailman/listinfo/support http://www.pcbsd.org/en/documentation/ #pcbsd on irc.freenode.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 21:10:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 543DEED2 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay-b21.telenor.se (smtprelay-b21.telenor.se [195.54.99.212]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C90413299 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (ipb2.telenor.se [195.54.127.165]) by smtprelay-b21.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38150260DD for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:49:52 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [83.227.225.121] X-LISTENER: [smtp.bredband.net] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgYJAKMU8VNT4+F5PGdsb2JhbABYgw1TV8wxBB0KhwVTAYEMFwUBAQEBODaEBAEBAQMBAQEkJwgYCxALGAklDwUTAQUECAoaCAcEAQgUBIglAQjAcheJf4R8AQFPB4MvgR0FhhGPOoN1gwEBgVeXCzsvB4EIgUABAQE X-IPAS-Result: AgYJAKMU8VNT4+F5PGdsb2JhbABYgw1TV8wxBB0KhwVTAYEMFwUBAQEBODaEBAEBAQMBAQEkJwgYCxALGAklDwUTAQUECAoaCAcEAQgUBIglAQjAcheJf4R8AQFPB4MvgR0FhhGPOoN1gwEBgVeXCzsvB4EIgUABAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,880,1400018400"; d="scan'208";a="59140918" Received: from ua-83-227-225-121.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO ymer.thorshammare.org) ([83.227.225.121]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 17 Aug 2014 22:49:52 +0200 Received: from ymer.thorshammare.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ymer.thorshammare.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7HKnwkA008265 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:50:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hasse@ymer.thorshammare.org) Received: (from hasse@localhost) by ymer.thorshammare.org (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id s7HKnwDY008264; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:49:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hasse) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:49:58 +0200 From: Hasse Hansson To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Flash plugin ? Message-ID: <20140817204958.GA8227@ymer.thorshammare.org> References: <20140817151151.5527a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0B338.2020608@hiwaay.net> <20140817155855.GA97753@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53F0D7E9.6060808@hiwaay.net> <20140817183930.8a4a804a.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F0DE80.6080906@hiwaay.net> <20140817191355.878b8dc1.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F10531.8010508@hiwaay.net> <20140817200821.GA7252@ymer.thorshammare.org> <53F11578.6050207@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53F11578.6050207@hiwaay.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at mailhub3.thorshammare.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:10:24 -0000 --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 03:50:00PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >=20 > On 08/17/14 15:08, Hasse Hansson wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 02:40:33PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> On 08/17/14 12:13, Polytropon wrote: > >>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:55:28 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >>>> I just popped it open, looks nice. Any way to import bookmarks/histo= ry > >>>> from FF :-) ? > >>> I see File -> Import and Export -> Import Firefox Bookmarks... > >>> (I've re-enabled the menu bar), so this seems to be the > >>> required function. For browsing history, I don't see anything > >>> that fits... :-( > >>> > >> While we're at it, how to set my own homepage ? > >> > >> --=20 > >> > >> William A. Mahaffey III > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------= --- > >> > >> "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > >> ever devised by man." > >> -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. > >> > > Hello. > > Following you a bit on your journey to a "Perfect Laptop", it comes to = my mind, > > did you have a look at PCBSD ? http://www.pcbsd.org/ > > or is it not apropiate in your case ? > > /All the best Hasse > > =20 > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebs= d.org" >=20 > Not a laptop, a desktop ;-) .... >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III > Ok, sorry. But PCBSD might be an alternative to check up anyway ? /Hasse =20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT8RV2AAoJEOmXrgbZ1M7sm/kH/3zipmmRw9Bsk9FOLY679s4b LmZEmW4S6+jKK4K5HnGxKP1hbuRbRCTU5L71ZyINjgM6A9IxJngvFWS3McNlCdQc sm9Akx2rE0R5A2moo7InAU0OmJlT4SjABKjtxC+AL/j8TsJagEQJu4ZVrB68Ytfw 23CjxwJH9Ula8DR4JfN+zu3+oKbkmSQG+W0AHkeqBKecKDugOH1+SY+F341nfvjB XHv7a0BbjlHmSEzGIWAVX3CRsm1GNZONP4GCeiS8xcDsuyAPdQ3/wJvbXnOdOopn 6mGoihvGDp9cvlm1AkJU/Kozlq+hk4Z0Uqdpie/mD84penB/tn6geLyrWygj6g4= =T+ss -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 09:16:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0236DAD2 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 09:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 244.93.ca.ispnetbilling.com (ts1-182.wnpg.interhop.net [165.154.32.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EBC53E85 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 09:16:10 +0000 (UTC) From: "Patriot News" Reply-To: exposingtruth@hushmail.me To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Proof Obama Plans To Ignite Race Wars In America X-Mailer: Smart_Send_3_1_6 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 05:16:13 -0400 Message-ID: <36843414280563085315340@Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 09:16:12 -0000 The open border agenda is not what it seems to be. Obama and his handlers are importing violent Mexicans and their drug wars into America to destabilize the nation prior to declaring a state of Martial law. The following prophetic warning was posted online back in August of 2011. What you are about to read is quite sobering. These revelations should leave no doubt in anyones mind, as to what he is really up to..... Here is an excerpt from the 2011 warning..... "But, through My servant, Linda Newkirk, I have often told you the plans of the enemy; and I tell you again, that you might prepare. The streets of the cities will run with blood because of race wars. The countryside will run with blood because of race wars; and you are only seeing the beginning of all that is at hand. For, their plan is also to import many violent Mexicans and to bring the Mexican drug wars over the border, to ignite race wars of one kind, or another, all over this nation." "Hear Me, oh you people of America. Hear Me; for a fire has been kindled. This fire is the destruction of the U.S.A.; and this fire will not be stopped until you are brought down, oh you harlot nation of America." But, still I plead with you, oh My people. Repent, or perish! I am your Father Yahweh, yea Jehovah, Most High God. As witnessed, dictated and recorded this 6th day of August, 2011, Linda Newkirk Aug 7th, 2014 Listen to Me My Blessed One; for I am the Holy One of Israel, the God who sits above you all, Jesus, Saviour and Redeemer! Hearken My Little One; for the cries of the innocent scream out to Me and the pollutions of the masses have risen up, even to a crescendo in America and an avalanche of evil has erupted all across the land! Darkness, yes the darkness of the darkness has overtaken this nation and the tears and the cries of the innocent pour out all across this land! For, you oh America, that one nation whom I have blessed above all nations, you have become the bottom feeders of the world: murderers, rapists, sodomites, whores and whoremongers, who see nothing wrong with your perversions, the very perversions which separate you from Me, the very perversions which make your house empty and devoid of My Spirit, the very perversions which lead your souls into darkness and thereby into destruction. Yet, you see nothing wrong with doing these things which separate you from Me, the Only One who can save you, the Only One who can save your souls! And, because you have chosen the pride of the flesh and have cast yourselves into the abominations of self-destruction and through your very own selfish choices to please the flesh and to avoid all that is spiritual and of the light, you have become spiritual cesspits, dark houses, which are full of every kind of foul, destructive and deceiving spirit. When a nation becomes an "anything goes" nation, that nation goes into ruin and destruction. I am not an "anything goes" God! I have told you to obey My commandments, to live honestly, to be chaste in your dealings, one with another, to correct yourselves and to do right and to obey My commands, to obey Me and to love one another. But, you do not choose it! Instead, you have become a nation of harlots, hot to pursue your own pleasures of the flesh, no matter how decadent you are in your pursuits! Therefore, I have given to you according to your own choices, a president who loves the works of the flesh, the works of self, a president who loves every carnal thing, a leader who hates you and despises you, oh decadent house! And, without your consent, he is steadily raping you, oh America in one way, or another. Yet, you marvel, "How could this be?" Did you not elect the one that I sent? And, now you wish to extricate yourselves from the one that you both elected, and the one that I sent. Do you not know that a nation is deserving of its leaders? The lawless nation will sport the lawless leaders and when lawlessness resides in a nation, a lawless leader abides and presides? Who do you blame, you lawless nation? For, have you not chosen to cast Me out and to deny Me and My righteous teachings? Have you not also decided in and of yourselves, oh harlot nation, to spread your legs and open up to every whore in the world? I have warned you to repent and you will not listen, oh harlot nation of America! And, now, you will perish, here a little and there a little, in increasing measures until you humble yourselves and cry out to Me in repentance for your own sins and for the sins of this nation! I am the same today, yesterday and tomorrow and though you think to make something new through all of your perversions, you have made nothing new, but have loved lawlessness! Therefore, lawlessness is the order of the day for you! Repent, or perish, oh My people! Repent, or perish! The avalanche is upon you! The dark tide is rolling in! You are on a crash course for it and a head-on collision! The raven is circling! The brown skinny dog is howling! The eagle is sick and dying. Its wings are crippled! The bushes are afire and burning! The air is full of toxins and poisons! The ground is parched and full of lifelessness! The whores are languishing and the tables are coming up empty! The black birds are circling and the babies are crying! Oh rot from within and rot from without! America, you are falling! You are falling! And, none to help you! For, you have lived lavishly! You have ripped and you have torn with your talons when there was no need for it! You have destructed without cause and you shall be destructed! Decadence! Women and wine! Spiritual decay! Insolence! A badge of courage, but not real courage, yes you have given it to yourselves, but not courage, a "bully" badge, an egoistic plunder of nations! Now, you shall be plundered, oh America! You are hereby warned! Repent, or perish! As witnessed, dictated and recorded this 7th day of August, 2014, Linda Newkirk There are many more sobering revelations about Obama at the website, revelation12.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 11:02:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA315D96 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 11:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ADBBD38A6 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 11:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BC36248C6 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 13:02:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7IB2Tlj002028 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 13:02:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 13:02:29 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Time code and hourly files with mencoder Message-Id: <20140818130229.80e2e06e.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 11:02:39 -0000 The following complex of questions primarily aims at those participants of the questions list who have experience with mplayer, mencoder, and state security. ;-) I'm searching for some input regarding a FreeBSD-based surveillance project. The basic setting: a PC-type system equipped with a Hauppauge / BrookTree PCI TV card (with excellent support) connected to a video source (camera attached to "video in" cinch connector), and a sound card (onboard version) connected to a microphone. The computer has sufficient power (Intel Core2, 2 GB RAM, nVidia GPU). Designated software: mencoder. There will be no external signals, instead the recording will be started once, and then continue until ^C. I've done this in the past, but I'd like some fresh ideas and new input, especially because there are obstacles which I haven't encountered (and therefore solved) yet. What I need: 1. TC In a corner (for example top right) there should be a time code with a precision of one second, like this: 2014-08-18 12:50:32 The video source cannot supply it. It doesn't have to be a high quality font. If it looks like a 7 segment display, it's fully sufficient. More than date and time is not needed. How can this be added to the video "on the fly", during creation? 2. File separation For easier postprocessing, I need one file per hour of the day (24 files for one day) and a directory for each day, like this: 2014-08-16/ 2014-08-17/ 2014-08-18/ 2014-08-18_00.avi 2014-08-18_01.avi 2014-08-18_02.avi ... 2014-08-18_12.avi 2014-08-18_13.avi 2014-08-18_14.avi (contains 14:00:00 - 14:59:59) 2014-08-18_15.avi ... 2014-08-18_23.avi 2014-08-19/ 2014-08-20/ How is this to be implemented? How would you start mencoder every hour for one hour? What is the optimal way to keep track of the time in the controlling shell script? 3. File format The videos don't need to be high quality. 800x600 or the like would be sufficient (even less is okay). The audio also doesn't need to be HiFi. MP3 or maybe even GSM codecs are sufficient. What encoding options do you recommend? Comments and suggestions are highly welcome! -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 11:23:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE84924F for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 11:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CA803AB0 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 11:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [188.96.38.167] (helo=michael-think) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XJL1c-0005uw-Nl; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 13:22:56 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Dale Scott" Subject: Re: apache24 and accf_http Accept Filter References: Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 13:22:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.98.4/19290/Mon Aug 18 07:34:39 2014) Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 11:23:00 -0000 On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:57:32 +0200, Dale Scott wrote: >> On Aug 17, 2014, at 11:46 AM, "Michael Ross" wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:44:33 +0200, Jim Pazarena wrote: >>> >>> My upgrade to apache24 from 22 met an error about the Accept Filter. >>> I never had to deal with this before. >>> So research shows that I should run "kldload accf_http". >>> Which works, and apache24 now executes. >>> My question is, where is the correct location to place the >>> "kldload accf_http" directive? I'm guessing "loader.conf", but that >>> doesn't look right. >>> >>> Thanks for advice. >> >> You should put >> >> apache24_http_accept_enable="YES" >> >> into /etc/rc.conf >> >> The apache rc script takes care of the module loading. > > Why is apache24_http_accept_enable required? Instructions generally > indicate to set both, but I only have apache24_enable in rc.conf and all > seems to work ok (apache24 is used to serve phpldapadmin only). Can > anyone explain why? > > Dale It is not required. " This is a filter to be placed on a socket that will be using accept() to receive incoming HTTP connections. It prevents the application from receiving the connected descriptor via accept() until either a full HTTP/1.0 or HTTP/1.1 HEAD or GET request has been buffered by the kernel. " See the man pages for accf_http and accf_data. Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 14:12:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FF15C6B for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:12:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28D6F3CA8 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:12:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-19-90.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7IECAoo025282 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 09:12:10 -0500 Message-ID: <53F20B31.7040501@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 09:18:25 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: pure X11, i.e. non-gnome/KDE/etc. desktop clocks .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:12:19 -0000 I had a gnome-gdesklet clock app running on my old FC14 desktop box, gave a clock described as 'WWII RAF squadron wall clock'. There is a port of gnome-gdesklets clock (*gdesklets-clock-0.32_14 ) *.... I am looking for something similar for the XFCE desktop, i.e. simple largish analog clock desktop app, *no* gnome/KDE/etc. .... anyone know if there is one available ? I am searching ports on FreeBSD.org as I write this, but w/ 24K+ entries, it could be a while :-/ .... Can anyone save me some time here :-) ???? TIA -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 14:21:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80D3EE06 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:21:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 428933D87 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:21:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44F5C252C1; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:21:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7IELtdV002506; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:21:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:21:55 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: pure X11, i.e. non-gnome/KDE/etc. desktop clocks .... Message-Id: <20140818162155.0e71a425.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53F20B31.7040501@hiwaay.net> References: <53F20B31.7040501@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:21:59 -0000 On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 09:18:25 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > I had a gnome-gdesklet clock app running on my old FC14 desktop box, > gave a clock described as 'WWII RAF squadron wall clock'. There is a > port of gnome-gdesklets clock (*gdesklets-clock-0.32_14 > ) *.... > I am looking for something similar for the XFCE desktop, i.e. simple > largish analog clock desktop app, *no* gnome/KDE/etc. .... anyone know > if there is one available ? How about the classic, xclock? Or oclock? > I am searching ports on FreeBSD.org as I > write this, but w/ 24K+ entries, it could be a while :-/ .... Can anyone > save me some time here :-) ???? TIA See /usr/ports/x11-clocks/oclock for more inspiration, there are several clocks in this category which do not require you to install a whole desktop environment just to see what time it is. :-) Additionally to xclock, I'm also using intclock to check the time in other places of the world relevant for me. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 14:32:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE94C546 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 788FA3EE5 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-19-90.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7IEWNkx007974 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 18 Aug 2014 09:32:23 -0500 Message-ID: <53F20FEE.80609@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 09:38:38 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: pure X11, i.e. non-gnome/KDE/etc. desktop clocks .... References: <53F20B31.7040501@hiwaay.net> <20140818162155.0e71a425.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140818162155.0e71a425.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:32:27 -0000 On 08/18/14 09:21, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 09:18:25 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> I had a gnome-gdesklet clock app running on my old FC14 desktop box, >> gave a clock described as 'WWII RAF squadron wall clock'. There is a >> port of gnome-gdesklets clock (*gdesklets-clock-0.32_14 >> ) *.... >> I am looking for something similar for the XFCE desktop, i.e. simple >> largish analog clock desktop app, *no* gnome/KDE/etc. .... anyone know >> if there is one available ? > How about the classic, xclock? Or oclock? > > > >> I am searching ports on FreeBSD.org as I >> write this, but w/ 24K+ entries, it could be a while :-/ .... Can anyone >> save me some time here :-) ???? TIA > See /usr/ports/x11-clocks/oclock for more inspiration, there > are several clocks in this category which do not require you > to install a whole desktop environment just to see what time > it is. :-) > > Additionally to xclock, I'm also using intclock to check the > time in other places of the world relevant for me. > > > oclock available as pkg, just installed it, usable for now, still pining for my RAF clock :-/ .... Thx .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 16:49:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A722ECFB for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:49:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F4943B2E for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:49:26 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=SrMSGYy0 c=1 sm=1 a=uNsD4W5u/UlQopoDAqU1YA==:17 a=BsRc6yXY6pMA:10 a=8Taq4MrU0F8A:10 a=AaUjGI9IrlcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=OA2lqS22AAAA:8 a=AIXBzhmLbQTS-nA4kGIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=GCIdU5R0qOQA:10 a=7lpFk1qyvwEA:10 a=uNsD4W5u/UlQopoDAqU1YA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: cm9iZXJ0aHVmZkByY24uY29t Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=roberthuff@rcn.com; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=roberthuff@rcn.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.user=roberthuff; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com: 209.6.39.223 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of rcn.com) Received: from [209.6.39.223] ([209.6.39.223:35016] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.2.43620 r(Platform:3.6.2.0)) with ESMTPA id 10/86-32522-F8E22F35; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 12:49:19 -0400 Message-ID: <53F22E89.3050005@rcn.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 12:49:13 -0400 From: Robert Huff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: solid state drives? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:49:27 -0000 I have been tasked with converting several systems - some unix (incl. FreeBSD), some Windows, to SSDs. What I know about SSDs will fit on the head of a pin. Can someone recommend a good primer and a trustworthy source for information on product specs and reliability? Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 17:10:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6FCF476 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:10:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x22a.google.com (mail-pa0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 812D23D95 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:10:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id lf10so8247295pab.1 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 10:10:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=7guOys5uQS/jsGYgB3UtwA/JR2PsDCAXMa6jRWhcPo0=; b=pvpsCE/n3IRzqaKiRbj7ESNjlg5stVZBuq004duMT5PbdOU1urmYrHCBJ2PYoeJufR pIf/2dQTc5SyLhmja3BKEoT7QYFfMDNRO1uzabcf7NZDpU4kzfr6zVprBGmukPFQPcvZ TH/X5ErJiX3XUkVO+pJ6xwWvq1W1vyMCbWrRnau/3s/9maaaZgbRYpyLAmDiMwWsYuBZ hqL/hUdHaE0RX/45XHWYgZ5y6ZS6sW+d3jqy9b5csx5mB8j6rf260bFTKsTqHbGyiGjW id2zZGK8Cr26IHo8smYF2AJrvVgsL6hz5weQy/+hctyXbg+kpXzetyzyMyKxoUfjg+t5 /kKw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.183.68 with SMTP id ek4mr37442016pbc.54.1408381835460; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 10:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.162.5 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 10:10:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53F22E89.3050005@rcn.com> References: <53F22E89.3050005@rcn.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 10:10:35 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: solid state drives? From: pete wright To: Robert Huff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:10:38 -0000 On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Robert Huff wrote: > I have been tasked with converting several systems - some unix > (incl. FreeBSD), some Windows, to SSDs. > What I know about SSDs will fit on the head of a pin. > Can someone recommend a good primer and a trustworthy source for > information on product specs and reliability? > > Can't recommend this article enough as a great starting point: http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2385276 This should give you a good background which will enable you to get past alot of the marketing foo. The TL;DR version of my advice is it really depends on your workloads, filesystem and data integrity expectations. There are good "enterprise" quality SSD's that provide durable write characteristics - but the come at a premium price point (Check out the Intel DC S3700 for example). Samsung also manufactures good enterprise quality devices as well. Hope this helps! -pete -- pete wright www.nycbug.org @nomadlogicLA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 17:30:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5197CA41 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:30:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02EFD3F9D for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:30:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-112.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.112]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7IHUEOC019645 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 18 Aug 2014 12:30:15 -0500 Message-ID: <53F2399D.5050609@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 12:36:29 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Huff , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: solid state drives? References: <53F22E89.3050005@rcn.com> In-Reply-To: <53F22E89.3050005@rcn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:30:17 -0000 On 08/18/14 11:49, Robert Huff wrote: > I have been tasked with converting several systems - some unix > (incl. FreeBSD), some Windows, to SSDs. > What I know about SSDs will fit on the head of a pin. > Can someone recommend a good primer and a trustworthy source for > information on product specs and reliability? > > > Respectfully, > > > Robert Huff > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > None of the SSD's are/will be as durable as spinning drives for writes .... That said, the SLC type are more durable than MLC or TLC .... Also more $$$$ & usually only available in smaller sizes. Good for a root drive, i.e. mostly read-olny operations. Swap & everything else on spinning platters .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 17:53:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53C1B632 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:53:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 022A831EA for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:53:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7IHrH21087522 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 18 Aug 2014 11:53:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s7IHrHYY087519; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 11:53:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 11:53:17 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Robert Huff Subject: Re: solid state drives? In-Reply-To: <53F22E89.3050005@rcn.com> Message-ID: References: <53F22E89.3050005@rcn.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 18 Aug 2014 11:53:17 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:53:20 -0000 On Mon, 18 Aug 2014, Robert Huff wrote: > I have been tasked with converting several systems - some unix > (incl. FreeBSD), some Windows, to SSDs. Are these desktops or servers? > What I know about SSDs will fit on the head of a pin. > Can someone recommend a good primer and a trustworthy source for > information on product specs and reliability? Off-hand, I can't think of one. I can offer my article on setting up SSDs for FreeBSD: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/ssd.html Enable TRIM. Enable AHCI if available. Don't image drives with tools that copy every block, like dd, because the SSD will think every block that has been written is in use. Some people like to leave unpartitioned space or an empty partition to add to the drive's built-in overprovisioning. Internally, SSDs are RAID0, so a 256G drive can sometimes give faster writes than a 128G drive. Don't get hung up on the maximum rated speed, which is mostly a pretend number you will never see. Instead, realize that it's the essentially zero access times that make SSDs fast, and concentrate on reliable drives. I've stuck mostly with Marvell controllers in SSDs from Plextor, Samsung, and Toshiba. Other brands, including Intel, use Sandforce controllers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 18:13:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 378C31FD for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 18:13:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C21363437 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 18:13:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s7IIDdD8088949; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 20:13:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C2968123E1; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 20:13:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 20:13:38 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: pure X11, i.e. non-gnome/KDE/etc. desktop clocks .... Message-ID: <20140818181338.GA1431@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions !!!! References: <53F20B31.7040501@hiwaay.net> <20140818162155.0e71a425.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F20FEE.80609@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53F20FEE.80609@hiwaay.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 18:13:49 -0000 --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 09:38:38AM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >=20 > On 08/18/14 09:21, Polytropon wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 09:18:25 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> I had a gnome-gdesklet clock app running on my old FC14 desktop box, > >> gave a clock described as 'WWII RAF squadron wall clock'. There is a > >> port of gnome-gdesklets clock (*gdesklets-clock-0.32_14 > >> ) *..= =2E. > >> I am looking for something similar for the XFCE desktop, i.e. simple > >> largish analog clock desktop app, *no* gnome/KDE/etc. .... anyone know > >> if there is one available ? > > How about the classic, xclock? Or oclock? > > > >> I am searching ports on FreeBSD.org as I > >> write this, but w/ 24K+ entries, it could be a while :-/ .... Can anyo= ne > >> save me some time here :-) ???? TIA > > See /usr/ports/x11-clocks/oclock for more inspiration, there > > are several clocks in this category which do not require you > > to install a whole desktop environment just to see what time > > it is. :-) > > > > Additionally to xclock, I'm also using intclock to check the > > time in other places of the world relevant for me. >=20 > oclock available as pkg, just installed it, usable for now, still pining= =20 > for my RAF clock :-/ .... Thx .... There is even a separate ports category just for X11 clocks: # ls /usr/ports/x11-clocks/ Makefile gdesklets-ebichuclock/ t3d/ abclock/ glclock/ tclock/ aclock/ gtubeclock/ tktz/ alarm-clock/ intclock/ wmbday/ alltraxclock/ kdetoys4/ wmbinclock/ amor/ kteatime/ wmblueclock/ asclock/ ktimer/ wmcalclock/ asclock-gtk/ ktux/ wmclock/ asclock-xlib/ lmclock/ wmclockmon/ astime/ mlclock/ wmfishtime/ astzclock/ mouseclock/ wmfuzzy/ bbdate/ oclock/ wmtime/ bclock/ osdclock/ wmtimer/ buici-clock/ pclock/ xalarm/ cairo-clock/ plasma-applet-adjustableclock/ xclock/ dclock/ plasma-applet-geekclock/ xdaliclock/ emiclock/ rclock/ xfce4-datetim= e-plugin/ eyeclock/ sanduhr/ xfce4-timer-o= ut-plugin/ gdesklets-clock/ stopwatch/ xfce4-timer-p= lugin/ gdesklets-countdown/ swisswatch/ xtimer/ E.g. cairo-clock is themable; http://gnome-look.org/?xcontentmode=3D186 Take your pick. :-) Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT8kJSAAoJEED21dyjijPgabUP/2hhA1C4o7OIX9Fv3r5qCqEJ 30Ci599Ar2Jqs85aO+niS5lMOi0T7xMxSvV+GrqCCBr5ldzjwTtH+Q9z5mkLZGYe bGJoyfO0auX99oiBOaUEmYKrdXU3q9uwzTzVCMfnHTBaLLAnOo0qjTYalrIw35TR Ez4SjzTyj5oRadHhgxxBBINsHxQo9ZH1vcmO+3uPWp2T6KwVyLr09u9ohSjEs153 +GzH42wjqYks5SNYEm3QfRyEnvAuBL4iUxrEBHRgRkwlPjb/xJCJflABIcqHl1Jw roCR7C2TfLS3nbtIFKFr99JOfM0d20nxBbdMaFUXjXmljrBdUs708KUEHjHbjSWu ahzcTN2UyH0uhtAdEzTZ8vTbMxEnhjH5zMk9EBT1xvuteljb0LM59kSZFbyeFmQj 5TKJhG3JkC9E8fYritfIS5NnHZ65hHMcp5nn/uKgh66SVUcav/nLwuHDaSb2UQ8t 9S7n9/ar4O1RxvVyonlvzx9zD1RLr/qhpo2/Upt7GzAV5ZxQCMy/ONBnFtrXyVqh PVD50GHxFtdRHjfpIEc/XSfpIyI7sZrexAWZwpptkDbYuhrvn4Ti42SgIP5f8Sl9 WJQfSWJC1T4tUprTH9gmLCzHNNynKmLEEHD4vPz3S8yWVEACrrOaGIxFk9wop5DV 6u58VrjBtI4JLZz+72pU =Skqw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 19:22:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC26680F for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 860703B85 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-112.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.112]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7IJMHPg001259 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:22:18 -0500 Message-ID: <53F253E0.6040606@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:28:32 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: pure X11, i.e. non-gnome/KDE/etc. desktop clocks .... References: <53F20B31.7040501@hiwaay.net> <20140818162155.0e71a425.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F20FEE.80609@hiwaay.net> <20140818181338.GA1431@slackbox.erewhon.home> In-Reply-To: <20140818181338.GA1431@slackbox.erewhon.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:22:22 -0000 On 08/18/14 13:13, Roland Smith wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 09:38:38AM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 08/18/14 09:21, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 09:18:25 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> I had a gnome-gdesklet clock app running on my old FC14 desktop box, >>>> gave a clock described as 'WWII RAF squadron wall clock'. There is a >>>> port of gnome-gdesklets clock (*gdesklets-clock-0.32_14 >>>> ) *.... >>>> I am looking for something similar for the XFCE desktop, i.e. simple >>>> largish analog clock desktop app, *no* gnome/KDE/etc. .... anyone know >>>> if there is one available ? >>> How about the classic, xclock? Or oclock? >>> >>>> I am searching ports on FreeBSD.org as I >>>> write this, but w/ 24K+ entries, it could be a while :-/ .... Can anyone >>>> save me some time here :-) ???? TIA >>> See /usr/ports/x11-clocks/oclock for more inspiration, there >>> are several clocks in this category which do not require you >>> to install a whole desktop environment just to see what time >>> it is. :-) >>> >>> Additionally to xclock, I'm also using intclock to check the >>> time in other places of the world relevant for me. >> oclock available as pkg, just installed it, usable for now, still pining >> for my RAF clock :-/ .... Thx .... > There is even a separate ports category just for X11 clocks: > > # ls /usr/ports/x11-clocks/ > Makefile gdesklets-ebichuclock/ t3d/ > abclock/ glclock/ tclock/ > aclock/ gtubeclock/ tktz/ > alarm-clock/ intclock/ wmbday/ > alltraxclock/ kdetoys4/ wmbinclock/ > amor/ kteatime/ wmblueclock/ > asclock/ ktimer/ wmcalclock/ > asclock-gtk/ ktux/ wmclock/ > asclock-xlib/ lmclock/ wmclockmon/ > astime/ mlclock/ wmfishtime/ > astzclock/ mouseclock/ wmfuzzy/ > bbdate/ oclock/ wmtime/ > bclock/ osdclock/ wmtimer/ > buici-clock/ pclock/ xalarm/ > cairo-clock/ plasma-applet-adjustableclock/ xclock/ > dclock/ plasma-applet-geekclock/ xdaliclock/ > emiclock/ rclock/ xfce4-datetime-plugin/ > eyeclock/ sanduhr/ xfce4-timer-out-plugin/ > gdesklets-clock/ stopwatch/ xfce4-timer-plugin/ > gdesklets-countdown/ swisswatch/ xtimer/ > > E.g. cairo-clock is themable; http://gnome-look.org/?xcontentmode=186 > > > Take your pick. :-) > > Roland Yeah I was looking through that, but I couldn't glean enough from the descriptions to decide to try any of them, was hoping someone would provide an experiential short-cut :-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 20:47:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C529A1A9 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 20:47:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7875D3582 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 20:47:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-112.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.112]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7IKlH0T024387 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:47:17 -0500 Message-ID: <53F267CC.2000006@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:53:32 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: FF31 cokkie policy .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 20:47:19 -0000 under earlier FireFox versions, you could set cookie policy under the edit->preferences dialog, not so now (FF31, FreeBSD 9.3) .... I also looked through about:config for anything cookie I could deactivate, found little .... How do I set my desired cookie policy under new FF31 ? TIA .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 21:12:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50819C6 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 21:12:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server1.shellworld.net (shellworld.net [69.60.117.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DCD33831 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 21:12:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server1.shellworld.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server1.shellworld.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EEDB22957 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:07:21 -0400 (EDT) To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: What Would Make Sudo Always Let one Execute a Command? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <48925.1408396040.1@server1.shellworld.net> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:07:21 -0500 From: "Martin G. McCormick" Message-Id: <20140818210721.0EEDB22957@server1.shellworld.net> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 21:12:50 -0000 Sudo behaves as if the default timeout in sudoers was set to -1. Out of 5 FreeBSD9 systems, this one system exhibits this behavior while all the others time out like they should. Setting the value to 0 should cause one to always have to enter a password, but not on this system. Has anyone ever seen this before? The sudoers file is a copy of the same sudoers file we use on the other machines. I have also tried sudo from a few other user ID's on the system and see the same behavior. Thank you. Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 22:12:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE3C8D20 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 22:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.32]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49BA93D52 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 22:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s7IMCnJH078817; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 00:12:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4148C123F1; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 00:12:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 00:12:49 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: FF31 cokkie policy .... Message-ID: <20140818221249.GA1926@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! References: <53F267CC.2000006@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53F267CC.2000006@hiwaay.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 22:12:52 -0000 --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 03:53:32PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >=20 >=20 > under earlier FireFox versions, you could set cookie policy under the=20 > edit->preferences dialog, not so now (FF31, FreeBSD 9.3) .... I also=20 > looked through about:config for anything cookie I could deactivate,=20 > found little .... How do I set my desired cookie policy under new FF31 ?= =20 > TIA .... It's still in the preferences window, on the =E2=80=9Cprivacy=E2=80=9D tab. But in recent Firefox versions all menus are on a pane hidden hidden under a button on the far right side of the URL bar. The picture on the button is three horizontal stripes. Press is and you'll = see a pane with icons, one of which is =E2=80=9CPreferences=E2=80=9D. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT8nphAAoJEED21dyjijPg9rsQAMRKjspGxMBp3W2ZT4umPrDV DzzVNdYsa5PcOvBLQfiA2N5noh7yTM0+c+0qEGj3PgJNOHgAld/qxKMpwk4W1VEF h8uaZ3Gxj0wJKRwjrCyeC8lftCMHm7stmEajNRXd90dUk8U0EXC5ohNBkKx4DpMi vUpeJfaG9uHi5ke1F++ipFZd30INOZ1awAMMphwj0g6WpPete86zGbMucfxT5Zcp O0erL6SD5fKVOp7DdzOScQo99BA0dmfjZvMXtmgHlQ7QMmAC844fDpUbZDGMioUz 34sYRHryOY3H5Qwi8sCktJfIi0n1DRL73FsaL7Vd26XdQ63Fk4nfl2P/+XnSqhhJ HXAgsXXTrb3XpOcMpiRUoKJJuR/m4LulUZ00oDvMja5dh8NrVUZYip36nQGhoIqt OA88aIuSwRAy77sPLfdE4/rrDiYyXR/VbyJmR1ysh65vs6mhj3QubJQcIBoL8opT stKw/7qalmYeaqAGD/t/FgbiesjSB/P7HYIE2kIkEUIFD/f6AyLflHX8mI4Lr1tX hTQ3YhQ5HY99Y26cICmqOqzgyGhHh5HJB/hroWTfg8FoRWgAa77K76sXFW8C75m/ W+HEXIPMRiH0Pd08cgRI7Ad02rGJk9Lc9P1yHllPOrtvdzMT3ztve+/B6mc+zjQq YB/EGmbTuV6rDQIMMEM9 =zeit -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 22:17:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B70A6E0D for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 22:17:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S25.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s25.hotmail.com [65.55.111.164]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B51F3D7C for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 22:17:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU437-SMTP58 ([65.55.111.137]) by BLU004-OMC4S25.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:17:20 -0700 X-TMN: [8c4dv+P3Jar68L8owttPQipegrXIj+gY] X-Originating-Email: [wade-is-great@live.com] Message-ID: Received: from [192.168.2.11] ([174.89.208.223]) by BLU437-SMTP58.smtp.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(8.0.9200.16384); Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:17:18 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1816\)) Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Macbook Pro early 2011 From: Fred In-Reply-To: <2240CC89-F4A5-43FA-8E15-5BF67CA5F278@thehowies.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 18:16:46 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <2240CC89-F4A5-43FA-8E15-5BF67CA5F278@thehowies.com> To: John Howie X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1816) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Aug 2014 22:17:18.0607 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C7B49F0:01CFBB32] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 22:17:27 -0000 Hi John, Thanks for the quick answer. I want to use dual boot to first getting familiar and in the long term = switch to FreeBSD as the only operating system. I mentioned bootcamp because most of the tutorial I found so far = recommend to create a bootcamp partition on which FreeBSD is install. = Also from what I read using bootcamp creates a hybrid MBR. I wish there = were a solution to run FreeBSD on dual boot with a GPT partition table. On one of my tentatives I also tried to use a BSD partition on which I = created two logical partitions (UFS and swap) but that did not work = either.=20 Does anyone have an idea on how I can proceed? Thanks, Fred Le 2014-08-17 =E0 08:42, John Howie a =E9crit : > Hi Fred, >=20 > You may have a particular reason for a dual-boot configuration but, if = you do not, can I recommend running FreeBSD in a virtual machine = instead? It works very well. >=20 > Bootcamp is designed for Windows so I am not surprised you are having = issues, there. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > John >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 >> On Aug 16, 2014, at 17:02, "Fred" wrote: >>=20 >> Hi everyone! >>=20 >> I am trying to install FreeBSD on my Macbook pro early 2011 in dual = boot with OS X Mavericks but so far I could not boot on it once the = installation is complete. >>=20 >> Computer specs: = http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/specs/macbook-pro-core-i= 7-2.3-17-early-2011-unibody-thunderbolt-specs.html >>=20 >> I tried using the gpart command, blessing the partition, using gdisk = to create an hybrid MBR, but so far nothing has worked. >>=20 >> Here's what I tried: >> = http://phosphor-escence.blogspot.ca/2012/01/dual-boot-pc-bsd-90-and-os-x-l= ion-on.html >> https://glenbarber.us/2011/11/12/Dual-Booting-OS-X-and-FreeBSD-9.html >> I also looked in the mailing lists, and the FreeBSD forums, but I = could not find any solutions. >>=20 >> Now on latest versions of OS X Bootcamp (Mountain Lion, Mavericks) I = cannot create a partition without having a Windows disk, and I also = tried using Bootcamp under Snow Leopard. >>=20 >> Regarding the errors I have after the installation, it's either = "can't load kernel" or "Missing bootloader", with or without hybrid MBR. = The partition table is GPT, and the system uses a EFI boot manager. >>=20 >> Thanks in advance for any answer to my problem. >>=20 >> Cheers, >> Fred >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 23:19:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A91655FA for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:19:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A05532BA for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:19:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-112.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.112]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7INJZ9A028608 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 18 Aug 2014 18:19:36 -0500 Message-ID: <53F28B7E.4000306@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 18:25:50 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: FF31 cokkie policy .... References: <53F267CC.2000006@hiwaay.net> <20140818221249.GA1926@slackbox.erewhon.home> In-Reply-To: <20140818221249.GA1926@slackbox.erewhon.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:19:38 -0000 On 08/18/14 17:12, Roland Smith wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 03:53:32PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> under earlier FireFox versions, you could set cookie policy under the >> edit->preferences dialog, not so now (FF31, FreeBSD 9.3) .... I also >> looked through about:config for anything cookie I could deactivate, >> found little .... How do I set my desired cookie policy under new FF31 ? >> TIA .... > It's still in the preferences window, on the “privacy†tab. > > But in recent Firefox versions all menus are on a pane hidden hidden under a > button on the far right side of the URL bar. > > The picture on the button is three horizontal stripes. Press is and you'll see > a pane with icons, one of which is “Preferencesâ€. > > > Roland I have the edit->preferences dialog open as I write this, looking at the privacy tab, & nothing there, except the text that 'firefox will remember cookies for sites that you visit' which is *not* a link, not editable, apparently a statement of fact for you to accept .... I'll look at the other one momentarily .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 23:20:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E944D68F for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:20:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A84932E8 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:20:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-112.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.112]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7INKlNU029245 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 18 Aug 2014 18:20:47 -0500 Message-ID: <53F28BC6.5030704@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 18:27:02 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: FF31 cokkie policy .... References: <53F267CC.2000006@hiwaay.net> <20140818221249.GA1926@slackbox.erewhon.home> In-Reply-To: <20140818221249.GA1926@slackbox.erewhon.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:20:49 -0000 On 08/18/14 17:12, Roland Smith wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 03:53:32PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> under earlier FireFox versions, you could set cookie policy under the >> edit->preferences dialog, not so now (FF31, FreeBSD 9.3) .... I also >> looked through about:config for anything cookie I could deactivate, >> found little .... How do I set my desired cookie policy under new FF31 ? >> TIA .... > It's still in the preferences window, on the “privacy†tab. > > But in recent Firefox versions all menus are on a pane hidden hidden under a > button on the far right side of the URL bar. > > The picture on the button is three horizontal stripes. Press is and you'll see > a pane with icons, one of which is “Preferencesâ€. > > > Roland just looked, same dialog .... FF31, FreeBSD 9.3 .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 23:28:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C488762 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:28:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x236.google.com (mail-pd0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4A49339A for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f182.google.com with SMTP id fp1so8394174pdb.41 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:28:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=We5skbW45NVq2hH0IbQyKaSOkdIJCpflxCcv3vXtYh4=; b=p0hnoE8PR0c5nxzYpR89b02f7Tl8oSkcVpd82/Z1stbsVMl9RFoWjYQxFsI6nzDgpq FJZMCt1HH4TKhcxaCCrTTM0q24y5n368BJFanRVTsTR84suhTPcDmQ8qGcubOfYcPENH OMw5YaFyvSQa95PFVIObgTU3nVTrAZu1gNH1kv3r1j7v7HrMRKh8fO2sStMJ5jGA9sUG LythaTA6/KGuEN9wzqKVWOF/t1Rp2WArAF2nUryO8Q/VfBzr3WVxBW59JdzEqOCBvjIs xY3ItDMgd73H9SWnoKQK9aZbFHqL7d8tDIbcnTwvDzOZ4HHeB0VPpmCBJ9XHmBAM1Pwh PmQw== X-Received: by 10.66.65.162 with SMTP id y2mr11978402pas.55.1408404484351; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.40.122] ([209.12.167.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bd4sm26491774pdb.68.2014.08.18.16.28.03 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:28:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53F28C01.8060800@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:28:01 -0700 From: Jungle Boogie Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What Would Make Sudo Always Let one Execute a Command? References: <20140818210721.0EEDB22957@server1.shellworld.net> In-Reply-To: <20140818210721.0EEDB22957@server1.shellworld.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:28:05 -0000 Dear Martin, -------------------------------------------- From: Martin G. McCormick Sent: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:07:21 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: What Would Make Sudo Always Let one Execute a Command? > > Sudo behaves as if the default timeout in sudoers was set to -1. > Out of 5 FreeBSD9 systems, this one system exhibits this > behavior while all the others time out like they should. Setting > the value to 0 should cause one to always have to enter a > password, but not on this system. > Has anyone ever seen this before? The sudoers file is a > copy of the same sudoers file we use on the other machines. I > have also tried sudo from a few other user ID's on the system > and see the same behavior. First, have you read Michael W. Lucas' book (if you haven't already): https://www.michaelwlucas.com/nonfiction/sudo-mastery Secondly, maybe you can add the user to a group so sudo is not needed for your command. Next, are you sure your sudo file doesn't have this uncommented: # %wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL > Thank you. > > Martin McCormick -- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboogie@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boogie@jit.si From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 23:31:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 568C382B for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:31:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 229A9343F for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:31:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3DA23339 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:31:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:31:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=imap.cc; h=date :from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:in-reply-to; s=mesmtp; bh=O+0V8FjS+RebZg7qZRBDD9XR cOA=; b=yJVyrIMJ83gFYnQbt4/VsKRd4IT2Bgwxc4l/4mBVdYlx+D463t8IbbAs Wxp+HyHCsSSXT+91jBNdIm3SUrVQP6Y/+IOM7VLpZecej9bXHzEw4IKdBdJnndqz KxLw/6fLOLsVesoXjamdEoFOJFr/Ycu4oWR7G3uWUL9Q/976Zm8= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=smtpout; bh=O+0V8FjS+RebZg7qZRBDD9XRcOA=; b=FUC5pAfwcMCCdlQlQgwZiM9Kj8Qg IK1xSWLQ0br7Df5fGXmNyAWW7fbUuTRY6IsBnbLwmVBHVuJOrgzeqPHExM9dPmtE 6HQGjLNb/L5z9k7THlTkvCHcOSHR5FNX1D7TMTGgG7yPBBEn9dAHAeO6RuM+JczA nCHPvMlWvt9/7do= X-Sasl-enc: kgw6xCmHnCLCl+5vQVC9YUGTzjEQKYCBIGtcqTaOweFn 1408404680 Received: from z.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (unknown [71.233.174.108]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 296E5680156; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:31:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:31:21 -0400 From: Brendan Desmond To: dbc Subject: Re: how to encourage a wireless driver to exist? Message-ID: <20140818233121.GA6745@z.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <003e01cfb9db$8c11b1e0$a43515a0$@dcollins.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <003e01cfb9db$8c11b1e0$a43515a0$@dcollins.info> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:31:28 -0000 On 2014-08-17, dbc wrote: >Hello, > > > >I have a new laptop which I'm well sick of having to run linux on. Is there >a way to encourage someone to write a driver for intel 7260 wifi card? > >I am a C programmer, and I would be willing to volunteer time, but I don't >know how useful I will be with neither driver writing nor wifi protocol nor >FreeBSD development process experience. Still, if anyone would point me in >the right direction I would happily give it a shot. Where can this stuff be >learnt? I also see that linux drivers exist, but I'm not sure about legal >problems when copying from those. > >Or, while I probably couldn't afford to fund it entirely myself, is there a >way I could chip into a pot to help fund someone with more experience to at >least make a start on it? > > > >Sincerely, > >Daniel Collins > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I am also an Intel 7260 owner who would like to do whatever I can to help the development of support for said device plus the i915 and any other Intel Haswell stuff. My main motivating factor is having bought a Lenovo Thinkpad T440 before realizing I want to make the full switch to FreeBSD from Linux. I'm not much of a programmer, but would love to know what I can do to as far as testing, bug reports, etc. so I can chip in with driver development. I have a copy of the handbook and am subscribed to the freebsd-drivers list, but any additional tips for someone like me would me most welcome. -Brendan Desmond From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 23:54:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F662B4D for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:54:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2788435C2 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E5B33C1E; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:54:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id B0F3839816; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:54:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: FF31 cokkie policy .... References: <53F267CC.2000006@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:54:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: <53F267CC.2000006@hiwaay.net> (William A. Mahaffey, III's message of "Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:53:32 -0500") Message-ID: <44r40dicau.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:54:47 -0000 "William A. Mahaffey III" writes: > under earlier FireFox versions, you could set cookie policy under the > edit->preferences dialog, not so now (FF31, FreeBSD 9.3) .... I also > looked through about:config for anything cookie I could deactivate, > found little .... How do I set my desired cookie policy under new FF31 > ? TIA .... Look for an extension that will handle your preferences in this area. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 23:57:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2D1FBFA for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yk0-x232.google.com (mail-yk0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51E3435DE for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yk0-f178.google.com with SMTP id 142so4846895ykq.37 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:57:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:mime-version:content-type; bh=AtIt5Js3nTRS66eYY3vq2IQsWAB6v+PnfpVA8M/KuJ0=; b=asrkzDgd3rEdCXVvxkSru+23clmtoz3OSazW2xq5JVS/Hmu7thhtnmMWIfgB073dQQ 3b9DuCVJBNaHA7sSSOnRFo5gViHPT2HPDtQsXXtRIfoQ+GQU84Ucb+NvQuzIY/JS2rEY LWD4bwei7/68caS3VCZJkdRgyAGqvWkNpLCw8= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:reply-to:organization:mime-version:content-type; bh=AtIt5Js3nTRS66eYY3vq2IQsWAB6v+PnfpVA8M/KuJ0=; b=nCoh22BQc1vndYoIk8F1rVdR4Owx/wB1VN6Z6ZKtfdgixQ7j/IyEwYgbPpF/6RCk77 dYpPJ2QeeIKCt6g6QrZm/HLbYC8p5DOJmprlhjKPsAsLL+PP4LtlNT+cWiqMrfftpRHO UyaLL4OEq5hq4HdsDRfG9GPZbdc5m8fNvNrNO9TbyHQAYRS4GWPj6wGKz4CfK9WTQoXo PE4lquWQZi2RoarMVacjdoMWb0qSbuOX2gPH9mbHBRL+/vjJEZlYkUUe6/Qq/zQvamGF uPUwr52bIWo4nwEL57tEJdW4n8Xh5vnAXT9vnxavw3YNWrew1hl9pYhU3Y41QgukMZcl mnLQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQluBogRXntgx511CkSluPgAVtEgOueaBXMyhwI4DefTsKmXfc+GOTvIvcXsU8lozgMUPeRb X-Received: by 10.236.129.3 with SMTP id g3mr59739399yhi.67.1408406277398; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. 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Message-ID: <20140818195748.375442d8@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20140818233121.GA6745@z.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <003e01cfb9db$8c11b1e0$a43515a0$@dcollins.info> <20140818233121.GA6745@z.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Reply-To: User questions Organization: seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/e.FSwPMG7axdf9OKB5ZmrkQ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:57:58 -0000 --Sig_/e.FSwPMG7axdf9OKB5ZmrkQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:31:21 -0400, Brendan Desmond stated: >On 2014-08-17, dbc wrote: >>I have a new laptop which I'm well sick of having to run linux on. Is the= re >>a way to encourage someone to write a driver for intel 7260 wifi card? >> >>I am a C programmer, and I would be willing to volunteer time, but I don't >>know how useful I will be with neither driver writing nor wifi protocol n= or >>FreeBSD development process experience. Still, if anyone would point me in >>the right direction I would happily give it a shot. Where can this stuff = be >>learnt? I also see that linux drivers exist, but I'm not sure about legal >>problems when copying from those. >> >>Or, while I probably couldn't afford to fund it entirely myself, is there= a >>way I could chip into a pot to help fund someone with more experience to = at >>least make a start on it? You are going to need more than just drivers. There is a virtual cornucopia= of new standards being released either now or within the near future. It tool FreBSD nearly 10 years to support the "n" standard. It boggles the mind how long it will be before they are able to support the newer protocols. IEEE 802.11ac IEEE 802.11ac-2013 is an amendment to IEEE 802.11, published in December 2013, that builds on 802.11n. Changes compared to 802.11n include wider channels (80 or 160 MHz versus 40 MHz) in the 5 GHz band, more spatial streams (up to eight versus four), higher order modulation (up to 256-QAM v= s. 64-QAM), and the addition of Multi-user MIMO (MU-MIMO). As of October 2013, high-end implementations support 80 MHz channels, three spatial streams, and 256-QAM, yielding a data rate of up to 433.3 Mbit/s per spatial stream, 1300 Mbit/s total, in 80 MHz channels in the 5 GHz band. Vendors have announced plans to release so-called "Wave 2" devices with support for 160 MHz channels, four spatial streams, and MU-MIMO in 2014 and 2015.[20][21][2= 2] IEEE 802.11ad IEEE 802.11ad is an amendment that defines a new physical layer for 802.11 networks to operate in the 60 GHz millimeter wave spectrum. This frequency band has significantly different propagation characteristics than the 2.4 G= Hz and 5 GHz bands where Wi-Fi networks operate. Products implementing the 802.11ad standard are being brought to market under the WiGig brand name. T= he certification program is now being developed by the Wi-Fi Alliance instead = of the now defunct WiGig Alliance. The peak transmission rate of 802.11ad is 7Gbit/s. IEEE 802.11af IEEE 802.11af, also referred to as "White-Fi" and "Super Wi-Fi", is an amendment, approved in February 2014, that allows WLAN operation in TV white space spectrum in the VHF and UHF bands between 54 and 790 MHz. It uses cognitive radio technology to transmit on unused TV channels, with the standard taking measures to limit interference for primary users, such as analog TV, digital TV, and wireless microphones. Access points and stations determine their position using a satellite positioning system such as GPS and use the Internet to query a geolocation database (GDB) provided = by a regional regulatory agency to discover what frequency channels are available for use at a given time and position. The physical layer uses OFDM and is based on 802.11ac. The propagation path loss as well as the attenuation by materials such as brick and concrete is lower in the UHF and VHF bands than in the 2.4 and 5 GHz bands, which increases the possible range. The frequency channels are 6 to 8 MHz wide, depending on the regulatory domain. Up to four channels may be bonded in either one or two contiguous blocks. MIMO operation is possible with up to four streams used for either space=E2=80=93time block code (STBC) or multi-user (MU) ope= ration. The achievable data rate per spatial stream is 26.7 Mbit/s for 6 and 7 MHz channels and 35.6 Mbit/s for 8 MHz channels. With four spatial streams and four bonded channels, the maximum data rate is 426.7 Mbit/s for 6 and 7 MHz channels and 568.9 Mbit/s for 8 MHz channels. IEEE 802.11ah IEEE 802.11ah defines a WLAN system operating at sub 1 GHz license-exempt bands, with final approval slated for March 2016. Due to the favorable propagation characteristics of the low frequency spectra, 802.11ah can provide improved transmission range compared with the conventional 802.11 WLANs operating in the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz bands. 802.11ah can be used for various purposes including large scale sensor networks, extended range hotspot, and outdoor Wi-Fi for cellular traffic offloading, whereas the available bandwidth is relatively narrow. IEEE 802.11ai IEEE 802.11ai is an amendment to the 802.11 standard which will add new mechanisms for a faster initial link setup time. IEEE 802.11aj IEEE 802.11aj is a rebanding of 802.11ad for use in the 45 GHz unlicensed spectrum available in some regions of the world (specifically China). IEEE 802.11aq IEEE 802.11aq is an amendment to the 802.11 standard which will enable pre-association discovery of services. This extends some of the mechanisms = in 802.11u that enabled device discovery to further discover the services running on a device, or provided by a network. IEEE 802.11ax IEEE 802.11ax is the successor to 802.11ac and will increase the efficiency of WLAN networks. Currently at a very early stage of development this proje= ct has the goal of providing 4x the throughput of 802.11ac --=20 Jerry --Sig_/e.FSwPMG7axdf9OKB5ZmrkQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT8pMCAAoJEElTsHIJnX8eQv0IAKC5vU9b0bQuJqjuZdIbywA3 deYK2mVYzUwGSBaT1e5vS6BolQsibvRulPpckJUMjoSt05Sykmki30U1++hAidPs INJ2yrBpGVR5m6HSYDLdZFk6dK9tKPzQntD/jqAZA2LVZf8h8h8Er3pMIv4kSEGU UbsuxQcm30q5bTMsWZocYrNnqKN7qzJiJNQ4UcRy4LG/B64c1CN3eceGAeN+OfiT uUCf+BUznbAZhVa2KHyz8iHJ2v7M0FPfuj1XpbDC9QNnTijThwL9jIkEpWQP44u4 ET9G/0pthRbcHopw9kWqtWdvyMDEdb/+JqGHX+DoDOgbe/zwrgZUSgMU+4yyZ4s= =Po3k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/e.FSwPMG7axdf9OKB5ZmrkQ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 19 00:00:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6394CD1C for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 00:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21CEF35F8 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 00:00:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [188.96.38.167] (helo=michael-think) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XJWqD-0008Tw-Pf; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 01:59:57 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Roland Smith" , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" , "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: FF31 cokkie policy .... References: <53F267CC.2000006@hiwaay.net> <20140818221249.GA1926@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53F28B7E.4000306@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 01:59:52 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <53F28B7E.4000306@hiwaay.net> User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.98.4/19291/Mon Aug 18 19:19:18 2014) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 00:00:07 -0000 On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 01:25:50 +0200, William A. Mahaffey III = wrote: > > On 08/18/14 17:12, Roland Smith wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 03:53:32PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wro= te: >>> >>> under earlier FireFox versions, you could set cookie policy under th= e >>> edit->preferences dialog, not so now (FF31, FreeBSD 9.3) .... I also= >>> looked through about:config for anything cookie I could deactivate, >>> found little .... How do I set my desired cookie policy under new FF= 31 = >>> ? >>> TIA .... >> It's still in the preferences window, on the =E2=80=9Cprivacy=E2=80=9D= tab. >> >> But in recent Firefox versions all menus are on a pane hidden hidden = = >> under a >> button on the far right side of the URL bar. >> >> The picture on the button is three horizontal stripes. Press is and = >> you'll see >> a pane with icons, one of which is =E2=80=9CPreferences=E2=80=9D. >> >> >> Roland > > I have the edit->preferences dialog open as I write this, looking at t= he = > privacy tab, & nothing there, except the text that 'firefox will = > remember cookies for sites that you visit' which is *not* a link, not = = > editable, apparently a statement of fact for you to accept .... I'll = > look at the other one momentarily .... > https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enable-and-disable-cookies-website-= preferences Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 19 02:30:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA5AFDF7 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 02:30:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93B3231DC for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 02:30:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-112.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.112]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7J2U7U7010976 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 18 Aug 2014 21:30:07 -0500 Message-ID: <53F2B826.50906@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 21:36:22 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Ross , Roland Smith , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: FF31 cokkie policy .... References: <53F267CC.2000006@hiwaay.net> <20140818221249.GA1926@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53F28B7E.4000306@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 02:30:11 -0000 *Boooooyah* !!!! that did it .... Why hide those options like that ?!?!?! On 08/18/14 18:59, Michael Ross wrote: > On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 01:25:50 +0200, William A. Mahaffey III > wrote: > >> >> On 08/18/14 17:12, Roland Smith wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 03:53:32PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> under earlier FireFox versions, you could set cookie policy under the >>>> edit->preferences dialog, not so now (FF31, FreeBSD 9.3) .... I also >>>> looked through about:config for anything cookie I could deactivate, >>>> found little .... How do I set my desired cookie policy under new >>>> FF31 ? >>>> TIA .... >>> It's still in the preferences window, on the “privacy†tab. >>> >>> But in recent Firefox versions all menus are on a pane hidden hidden >>> under a >>> button on the far right side of the URL bar. >>> >>> The picture on the button is three horizontal stripes. Press is and >>> you'll see >>> a pane with icons, one of which is “Preferencesâ€. >>> >>> >>> Roland >> >> I have the edit->preferences dialog open as I write this, looking at >> the privacy tab, & nothing there, except the text that 'firefox will >> remember cookies for sites that you visit' which is *not* a link, not >> editable, apparently a statement of fact for you to accept .... I'll >> look at the other one momentarily .... >> > > https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enable-and-disable-cookies-website-preferences > > > > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. 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[86.139.236.106]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id x11sm47854740wjr.15.2014.08.18.23.17.37 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53F2EC00.7000605@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 07:17:36 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pure X11, i.e. non-gnome/KDE/etc. desktop clocks .... References: <53F20B31.7040501@hiwaay.net> <20140818162155.0e71a425.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F20FEE.80609@hiwaay.net> <20140818181338.GA1431@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53F253E0.6040606@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <53F253E0.6040606@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 06:17:42 -0000 On 18/08/2014 20:28, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > On 08/18/14 13:13, Roland Smith wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 09:38:38AM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>> On 08/18/14 09:21, Polytropon wrote: >>>> On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 09:18:25 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>>> I had a gnome-gdesklet clock app running on my old FC14 desktop box, >>>>> gave a clock described as 'WWII RAF squadron wall clock'. There is a >>>>> port of gnome-gdesklets clock (*gdesklets-clock-0.32_14 >>>>> ) >>>>> *.... >>>>> I am looking for something similar for the XFCE desktop, i.e. simple >>>>> largish analog clock desktop app, *no* gnome/KDE/etc. .... anyone >>>>> know >>>>> if there is one available ? >>>> How about the classic, xclock? Or oclock? >>>> >>>>> I am searching ports on FreeBSD.org as I >>>>> write this, but w/ 24K+ entries, it could be a while :-/ .... Can >>>>> anyone >>>>> save me some time here :-) ???? TIA >>>> See /usr/ports/x11-clocks/oclock for more inspiration, there >>>> are several clocks in this category which do not require you >>>> to install a whole desktop environment just to see what time >>>> it is. :-) >>>> >>>> Additionally to xclock, I'm also using intclock to check the >>>> time in other places of the world relevant for me. >>> oclock available as pkg, just installed it, usable for now, still >>> pining >>> for my RAF clock :-/ .... Thx .... >> There is even a separate ports category just for X11 clocks: >> >> # ls /usr/ports/x11-clocks/ >> Makefile gdesklets-ebichuclock/ t3d/ >> abclock/ glclock/ tclock/ >> aclock/ gtubeclock/ tktz/ >> alarm-clock/ intclock/ wmbday/ >> alltraxclock/ kdetoys4/ wmbinclock/ >> amor/ kteatime/ wmblueclock/ >> asclock/ ktimer/ wmcalclock/ >> asclock-gtk/ ktux/ wmclock/ >> asclock-xlib/ lmclock/ wmclockmon/ >> astime/ mlclock/ wmfishtime/ >> astzclock/ mouseclock/ wmfuzzy/ >> bbdate/ oclock/ wmtime/ >> bclock/ osdclock/ wmtimer/ >> buici-clock/ pclock/ xalarm/ >> cairo-clock/ plasma-applet-adjustableclock/ xclock/ >> dclock/ plasma-applet-geekclock/ xdaliclock/ >> emiclock/ rclock/ xfce4-datetime-plugin/ >> eyeclock/ sanduhr/ xfce4-timer-out-plugin/ >> gdesklets-clock/ stopwatch/ xfce4-timer-plugin/ >> gdesklets-countdown/ swisswatch/ xtimer/ >> >> E.g. cairo-clock is themable; http://gnome-look.org/?xcontentmode=186 >> >> >> Take your pick. :-) >> >> Roland > > > Yeah I was looking through that, but I couldn't glean enough from the > descriptions to decide to try any of them, was hoping someone would > provide an experiential short-cut :-) .... > > I use xclock in my fvwm2 WM and always have done. I have it contained in fvwmbuttons as a digital clock and in another instance as an analog clock. I like it's simplicity yet it can be used within a more complex arrangement as well. 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Message-Id: <20140819101620.8d438b891873ce6f6b61d051@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <20140818195748.375442d8@scorpio> References: <003e01cfb9db$8c11b1e0$a43515a0$@dcollins.info> <20140818233121.GA6745@z.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140818195748.375442d8@scorpio> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.2 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:18:50 -0000 On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:57:48 -0400 Jerry wrote: > On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:31:21 -0400, Brendan Desmond stated: > > >On 2014-08-17, dbc wrote: > > >>I have a new laptop which I'm well sick of having to run linux on. > >>Is there a way to encourage someone to write a driver for intel > >>7260 wifi card? > >> > >>I am a C programmer, and I would be willing to volunteer time, but > >>I don't know how useful I will be with neither driver writing nor > >>wifi protocol nor FreeBSD development process experience. Still, if > >>anyone would point me in the right direction I would happily give > >>it a shot. Where can this stuff be learnt? I also see that linux > >>drivers exist, but I'm not sure about legal problems when copying > >>from those. > >> > >>Or, while I probably couldn't afford to fund it entirely myself, is > >>there a way I could chip into a pot to help fund someone with more > >>experience to at least make a start on it? > > You are going to need more than just drivers. There is a virtual > cornucopia of new standards being released either now or within the > near future. It tool FreBSD nearly 10 years to support the "n" > standard. It boggles the mind how long it will be before they are > able to support the newer protocols. > > IEEE 802.11ac > > IEEE 802.11ac-2013 is an amendment to IEEE 802.11, published in > December 2013, that builds on 802.11n. Changes compared to 802.11n > include wider channels (80 or 160 MHz versus 40 MHz) in the 5 GHz > band, more spatial streams (up to eight versus four), higher order > modulation (up to 256-QAM vs. 64-QAM), and the addition of Multi-user > MIMO (MU-MIMO). As of October 2013, high-end implementations support > 80 MHz channels, three spatial streams, and 256-QAM, yielding a data > rate of up to 433.3 Mbit/s per spatial stream, 1300 Mbit/s total, in > 80 MHz channels in the 5 GHz band. Vendors have announced plans to > release so-called "Wave 2" devices with support for 160 MHz channels, > four spatial streams, and MU-MIMO in 2014 and 2015.[20][21][22] All this description is hardware and managed by hardware. The driver configures the hardware, gets data from it to kernel space and send data to it from kernel space, as each hardware has its own configuration and does data exchange different, you need a driver for each hardware. Sometimes, hardware made from the same vendor can share the same driver, but it's not a rule. Except for ciphers, autentication, etc.. the same applies for/with/to the rest of your descriptions, some of them still in development. > IEEE 802.11ad > IEEE 802.11af > IEEE 802.11ah > IEEE 802.11ai > IEEE 802.11aj > IEEE 802.11aq > IEEE 802.11ax > -- > Jerry --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 19 09:53:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7FD45BEC for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yh0-x22b.google.com (mail-yh0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c01::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FA933782 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:53:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f43.google.com with SMTP id 29so5515986yhl.16 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 02:53:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:mime-version:content-type; bh=FmHoS15UVeUbWid5IXd7X+XvSmySEhZ5GGlJzztx7D0=; b=rNEtneNtU9VlYHbSYJdmumYegyCc0iVGslWTqJTNvrY1/uKDqer4sZX0e3tRq+Fzx8 4cSUSKxuY5NY7hzED/tF22+QQU5KjMpGElWKepRS8w/7HcoWBvZU14nDpTQ+dc/gCP+D eMSsW6j2Be08ffwqnyn+xuLdHk6bF+du5tRNQ= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:reply-to:organization:mime-version:content-type; bh=FmHoS15UVeUbWid5IXd7X+XvSmySEhZ5GGlJzztx7D0=; b=RFVarlMr2k8LZrsV00qABGHBGn5jYN8gO/iWOydUr/JcOIMhMMVTOdUcnLSu9phVDk JsL4OJIyu+rftAJkNx+4ivRDIU9/7oVJs1o0mGwozzGWSUJVYP7gTiZPBrPd/YzCkk2b vy3qGEjI4WFTlM9oDoKtGR0flpu+ZCHTfOzSgA0zsNb35m+07EMJjQZzVFI4B20Ua6+x m4F+51BqyPMMIhGgi9Gzh24/nYjrPsqN8coXUc1n4rh140fz0cpg0toSvr0h3nzzjKcQ j7sqCYtTgpzfF5ckXG4BHFrK8s69l7aUZStim/AMmcfPrt4cwRLQ37ztKYbNYn+66r8f b1Dg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkyQ/8hHhuJYahG1A6U389o3FKd06oqahrMvFdSSp3ZboreQNZMNVEMQZoYFm6rYVJZDMsW X-Received: by 10.236.202.40 with SMTP id c28mr1459815yho.120.1408442029707; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 02:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. 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Message-ID: <20140819055340.6d6849d9@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20140819101620.8d438b891873ce6f6b61d051@yahoo.es> References: <003e01cfb9db$8c11b1e0$a43515a0$@dcollins.info> <20140818233121.GA6745@z.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140818195748.375442d8@scorpio> <20140819101620.8d438b891873ce6f6b61d051@yahoo.es> Reply-To: User questions Organization: seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/UMuvL3ytQS1IUZqP_UDpx0M"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:53:51 -0000 --Sig_/UMuvL3ytQS1IUZqP_UDpx0M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:16:20 +0200, Eduardo Morras stated: >All this description is hardware and managed by hardware. The driver >configures the hardware, gets data from it to kernel space and send data to >it from kernel space, as each hardware has its own configuration and does >data exchange different, you need a driver for each hardware. Sometimes, >hardware made from the same vendor can share the same driver, but it's not= a >rule. Yes, you need the driver to make use of the hardware. Considering it took nearly 10 years to get FreeBSD to support some, but not all "n" base hardware when the choices where far smaller, how long will it take for it to support, even partially the newer, more advanced ones. I gave up years ago attempting to use FreeBSD for my wireless machines. I absolutely refuse to be held hostage to obsolete technology. That does point up an interesting fact that I read recently regarding various OS's, hardwar= e, etcetera. The FOSS has for years accused Microsoft of "lock-in", yet, by the inability of the FOSS to develop drivers for newer hardware on a timely basis, they are creating their own "lock-in" environment. --=20 Jerry --Sig_/UMuvL3ytQS1IUZqP_UDpx0M Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT8x6rAAoJEElTsHIJnX8eQp8H/2fwUbjZWzVXgA8DLXVf7kkv ts1qjeojRVkctUNaEwOIOrlvNWxBb0Uq7QDLDGhmYOQr8SeTBoJBXHV6ouvkTPGN d+kPjDSl27er75D5vbDJinBkUzY8+He0dPGdIdN1UKiqgvBZUY/bkBkEsDiMRe+v ibLXRBQ+75983Yc8ELZlu7o7Y6NPwdE8WF95PT4GeCfmX7G2Dnt4Oe4/8QROfU5b ZQvjXh3jBiCsStXlC45TQz/fiuKuTZvbLWculS03GCXPumoJapzYVCL5Z8yqgUmY fFaizf3IpbZyMm++zzTQqQDwjWK/RHvPj/fIxsRlmFJGKlrDbATXdLQbmgSmm9M= =dJsU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/UMuvL3ytQS1IUZqP_UDpx0M-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 19 13:44:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2DC1A39 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-f45.google.com (mail-qa0-f45.google.com [209.85.216.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AEB213072 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:44:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id cm18so5625227qab.32 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 06:44:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=57EA9dpN8DG5emWmN3fCTNwoejpWaxuK0BYTL+NaB/o=; b=OCOiRmhpywKVAZljNd5ixv0caVfkiUnwZqZOAndEZCunGQXAd5O0qoRFbdxq3Qm5vb 7tO6o26prvI4pd7geQ8IXTF9EE1FZkFhZjexkvcfK3jy4O3NK2tJKRXj9Xx6f34qL4CW d5+JZG5o2luxM1jvxEBQecRcKn41OzzMERjLvmEhyC1/EmREbi9qySFBDCOiK0aa88o7 9bHzkNnbqzKBCKYOIPpcJaJ7BSrJjJRzMyJhjal8NJgr8/V3jUuf5QtvuuLKRpJg4E5z 4xnnXB7Esz8hz4EUs4HtuxoM+0Qqdn229Jrzcho8Pm2WV4ZkQndzLO10NdtJDpPJhZDm OA9Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlA6QPAwZjTyk2CudHkKIYX3OdDHKW4k1QwUzglEMfe4hoCVnOmMNJlR1KcRNicBhM8rIJE X-Received: by 10.140.107.198 with SMTP id h64mr40334672qgf.42.1408455861868; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 06:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.65] ([96.236.21.80]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 38sm22047727qgp.30.2014.08.19.06.44.20 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 19 Aug 2014 06:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: how to encourage a wireless driver to exist? From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <20140819101620.8d438b891873ce6f6b61d051@yahoo.es> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:44:19 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6E8C8DB0-35AE-411D-BB34-D5D38E27E172@kraus-haus.org> References: <003e01cfb9db$8c11b1e0$a43515a0$@dcollins.info> <20140818233121.GA6745@z.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140818195748.375442d8@scorpio> <20140819101620.8d438b891873ce6f6b61d051@yahoo.es> To: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:44:30 -0000 On Aug 19, 2014, at 4:16, Eduardo Morras wrote: > All this description is hardware and managed by hardware. I would be shocked if all of the requirements of IEEE 802.11af are = handled in the hardware! Go back and actually read and understand that = specification. I do not expect the hardware to be querying a geolocation = database (often multiple databases) and acting accordingly. I have been watching this specific bit of spectrum from the Wireless = Microphone / FCC side for a decade now. If systems start coming into use = that do NOT follow the required procedures there will be hell to pay as = these specific frequencies are in use by lots of other users besides = wireless networking. -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 19 15:30:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51504F7C for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2AA73B8D for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:29:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s7JFTl0T032786; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:29:47 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <53F36D6B.6040602@qeng-ho.org> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:29:47 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dbc , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to encourage a wireless driver to exist? References: <003e01cfb9db$8c11b1e0$a43515a0$@dcollins.info> <20140817085355.GA74530@slackbox.erewhon.home> In-Reply-To: <20140817085355.GA74530@slackbox.erewhon.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:30:00 -0000 On 17/08/2014 09:53, Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 03:24:27PM +1000, dbc wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I have a new laptop which I'm well sick of having to run linux on. Is there >> a way to encourage someone to write a driver for intel 7260 wifi card? > > You might want to ask on the freebsd-wireless list. But I think Cedric Gross > is working on it. > >> I am a C programmer, and I would be willing to volunteer time, but I don't >> know how useful I will be with neither driver writing nor wifi protocol nor >> FreeBSD development process experience. Still, if anyone would point me in >> the right direction I would happily give it a shot. Where can this stuff be >> learnt? I also see that linux drivers exist, but I'm not sure about legal >> problems when copying from those. > > There is a github repo; https://github.com/KreizIT/FreeBSD-IWN > > The Linux and FreeBSD kernels are quite different internally. So just copying > code would be useless. > > And Linux kernel code is under the GPL, which AFAIK is not acceptable in the > FreeBSD base system. > > What is usually done is study how the Linux driver works, and re-implement it > in the way FreeBSD drivers are written. You can study existing drivers as > references. You should consider joining the freebsd-hackers list if you start > working on FreeBSD code. > > The standard book about the internals of FreeBSD is; > > Marshall Kirk McKusick, George V. Neville-Neil > The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System. > Boston, Mass. : Addison-Wesley, 2004. ISBN 0-201-70245-2 I would add this book specifically about FBSD device drivers http://www.nostarch.com/bsddrivers.htm > Marshall Kirk McKusick teaches courses about the internals of FreeBSD. IIRC > you can order videos of them online. > > See also > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bibliography-osinternals.html > >> Or, while I probably couldn't afford to fund it entirely myself, is there a >> way I could chip into a pot to help fund someone with more experience to at >> least make a start on it? > > You can always make a donation; https://www.freebsd.org/donations/ > > Roland > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 19 15:35:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B02D22F for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:35:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D69523C4B for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:35:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s7JFZ7dv032808; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:35:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <53F36EAB.4040004@qeng-ho.org> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:35:07 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: pure X11, i.e. non-gnome/KDE/etc. desktop clocks .... References: <53F20B31.7040501@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <53F20B31.7040501@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:35:11 -0000 On 18/08/2014 15:18, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > I had a gnome-gdesklet clock app running on my old FC14 desktop box, > gave a clock described as 'WWII RAF squadron wall clock'. There is a > port of gnome-gdesklets clock (*gdesklets-clock-0.32_14 > ) *.... > I am looking for something similar for the XFCE desktop, i.e. simple > largish analog clock desktop app, *no* gnome/KDE/etc. .... anyone know > if there is one available ? I am searching ports on FreeBSD.org as I > write this, but w/ 24K+ entries, it could be a while :-/ .... Can anyone > save me some time here :-) ???? TIA It won't satisfy your "largish" criterion but the XFCE panel has a clock item that has various forms including analogue. Right click on the panel, select "Add new items" and look for "Clock". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 19 16:07:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81F7C4D0 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:07:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x231.google.com (mail-ig0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 520E43FE9 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:07:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ig0-f177.google.com with SMTP id hn18so9843146igb.4 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:07:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oeIea6xiKIfYPueCzfpayV8/2YyNTTR+NUWKg26cnyc=; b=rlQlxKUBDtDf43JI0J4ASx9gNu1nHQ/wDshQ4BR6/lEAYwMZ+7+VleUWu3kbgz6hVb Q1xRutJAEwsAW+FmlTJjoW7/XtPT77xkuaIV8WIdUyXvdzo5SphGeiifidDucuJBJlcL wgQu16gLw1LU9TmOdXLPMVMfk5v73VlzRka16wjCoujEUUC7YIH+3c7za0mqO1gZgEIX HyPozqIHORqom1U3W6bhvuogBDZPa+Ljn70eSI9pk4Jh85f3FGhSOQnqUyk2L41OX4YW 0YnstdPjyjVxTb6NgGrZNj6EgWRC2/GmO5Nnnlnjf0CjC3w9UIw/Op8Twqz6Crlkf0gP Vefg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.32.73 with SMTP id g9mr6823767igi.31.1408464426521; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.14.83 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:07:06 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD 10 + ipfilter problems with the stateful rules From: Roman Serbski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:07:07 -0000 Hello, #uname -a FreeBSD freebsd-tmpl 10.0-STABLE FreeBSD 10.0-STABLE #0 r270138: Tue Aug 19 15:33:27 CEST 2014 root@freebsd-tmpl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BSDTMPL2014081902 amd64 The kernel was compiled with: options IPFILTER options IPFILTER_LOG options IPFILTER_LOOKUP options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK Here is the ipfilter ruleset: # ipfstat -in @1 pass in quick on lo0 from any to any @2 block in quick on vmx0 from any to any with frag @3 block in quick on vmx0 proto tcp from any to any with short @4 block in quick on vmx0 inet from any to any with opt lsrr @5 block in quick on vmx0 inet from any to any with opt ssrr @6 block in log first quick on vmx0 proto tcp from any to any flags FPU/FSRPAU @7 block in quick on vmx0 from any to any with ipopts @8 pass in quick on vmx0 inet proto tcp from 192.168.60.0/24 to 192.168.60.1/32 port = ssh flags S/FSRPAU keep state @9 pass in quick on vmx0 inet proto icmp from 192.168.60.0/24 to 192.168.60.1/32 icmp-type echo keep state @10 block in log quick on vmx0 all # ipfstat -on @1 pass out quick on lo0 from any to any @2 pass out quick on vmx0 proto tcp from any to any port = domain flags S/FSRPAU keep state @3 pass out quick on vmx0 proto udp from any to any port = domain keep state @4 pass out quick on vmx0 proto udp from any to any port = ntp keep state @5 pass out quick on vmx0 inet proto icmp from any to any icmp-type echo keep state @6 block out log quick on vmx0 all I can ssh to the box (.1) from 192.168.60.0/24 but there is a noticeable delay (couple of seconds) if I run tail or less on any log file. At the same time, I see the following blocked from the ipfilter logs: Aug 19 17:37:26 freebsd-tmpl ipmon[410]: 17:37:26.817761 vmx0 @0:12 b 192.168.60.1,22 -> 192.168.60.21,64962 PR tcp len 20 1532 -AP OUT bad Aug 19 17:37:26 freebsd-tmpl ipmon[410]: 17:37:26.817966 vmx0 @0:12 b 192.168.60.1,22 -> 192.168.60.21,64962 PR tcp len 20 1616 -AP OUT bad If I add a rule allowing all traffic from .1 to 192.168.60.0/24 everything is working fine, so I get an impression something is wrong with "flags S/FSRPAU keep state". Any hints would be greatly appreciated! PS: I don't know whether it'll help, but this is a VMXNET3 adapter, so I gooogled to disable RXCSUM and TXCSUM however it didn't help. # ifconfig -m vmx0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=39b capabilities=61079b ether 00:50:56:8a:17:21 inet 192.168.60.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.60.255 media: Ethernet autoselect status: active supported media: media autoselect Thank you very much. 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[81.178.2.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id kz5sm40371006wjc.42.2014.08.19.09.19.13 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53F378FF.3080302@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17:19:11 +0100 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Subject: CAM Status Error on SuperMicro system board and LSI HBA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:19:16 -0000 Hi, I'm seeing these errors in my logs: WARNING: Kernel Errors Present (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): ATA status: 51 (DRDY SERV ERR), error: 04 (ABRT ) ...: 1 Time(s) (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): CAM status: ATA Status Error ...: 1 Time(s) 1 Time(s): (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): DSM TRIM. ACB: 06 01 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 01 00 1 Time(s): (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): RES: 51 04 01 00 00 e0 00 00 00 00 00 1 Time(s): (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): Retrying command WARNING: Kernel Errors Present (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): ATA status: 51 (DRDY SERV ERR), error: 04 (ABRT ) ...: 3 Time(s) (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): CAM status: ATA Status Error ...: 3 Time(s) 3 Time(s): (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): DSM TRIM. ACB: 06 01 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 01 00 3 Time(s): (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): RES: 51 04 01 00 00 e0 00 00 00 00 00 3 Time(s): (ada1:ahcich1:0:0:0): Retrying command WARNING: Kernel Errors Present (da0:mps0:0:8:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error ...: 4 Time(s) (da0:mps0:0:8:0): Error 5, Unretryable e ...: 4 Time(s) (da0:mps0:0:8:0): SCSI sense: MEDIUM ERROR asc:11,0 (Unrecovered read error) ...: 4 Time(s) (da1:mps0:0:10:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error ...: 8 Time(s) (da1:mps0:0:10:0): Error 5, Unretryable e ...: 8 Time(s) (da1:mps0:0:10:0): SCSI sense: MEDIUM ERROR asc:11,0 (Unrecovered read error) ...: 8 Time(s) 4 Time(s): (da0:mps0:0:8:0): Info: 0x210 1 Time(s): (da0:mps0:0:8:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 00 e8 e0 84 10 00 00 10 00 length 8192 SMID 929 terminated ioc 804b scsi 0 state 0 xfer 0 1 Time(s): (da0:mps0:0:8:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 00 e8 e0 84 10 00 00 10 00 length 8192 SMID 930 terminated ioc 804b scsi 0 state 0 xfer 0 4 Time(s): (da0:mps0:0:8:0): READ(6). CDB: 08 00 02 10 10 00 4 Time(s): (da0:mps0:0:8:0): SCSI status: Check Condition 4 Time(s): (da1:mps0:0:10:0): Info: 0x210 4 Time(s): (da1:mps0:0:10:0): Info: 0xe8e08618 1 Time(s): (da1:mps0:0:10:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 00 e8 e0 84 10 00 00 10 00 length 8192 SMID 781 terminated ioc 804b scsi 0 state 0 xfer 0 1 Time(s): (da1:mps0:0:10:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 00 e8 e0 84 10 00 00 10 00 length 8192 SMID 782 terminated ioc 804b scsi 0 state 0 xfer 0 1 Time(s): (da1:mps0:0:10:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 00 e8 e0 84 10 00 00 10 00 length 8192 SMID 784 terminated ioc 804b scsi 0 state 0 xfer 0 1 Time(s): (da1:mps0:0:10:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 00 e8 e0 84 10 00 00 10 00 length 8192 SMID 785 terminated ioc 804b scsi 0 state 0 xfer 0 4 Time(s): (da1:mps0:0:10:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 00 e8 e0 86 10 00 00 10 00 1 Time(s): (da1:mps0:0:10:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 00 e8 e0 86 10 00 00 10 00 length 8192 SMID 952 terminated ioc 804b scsi 0 state 0 xfer 0 1 Time(s): (da1:mps0:0:10:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 00 e8 e0 86 10 00 00 10 00 length 8192 SMID 953 terminated ioc 804b scsi 0 state 0 xfer 0 4 Time(s): (da1:mps0:0:10:0): READ(6). CDB: 08 00 02 10 10 00 1 Time(s): (da1:mps0:0:10:0): READ(6). CDB: 08 00 02 10 10 00 length 8192 SMID 780 terminated ioc 804b scsi 0 state 0 xfer 0 1 Time(s): (da1:mps0:0:10:0): READ(6). CDB: 08 00 02 10 10 00 length 8192 SMID 781 terminated ioc 804b scsi 0 state 0 xfer 0 8 Time(s): (da1:mps0:0:10:0): SCSI status: Check Condition In fact after a reboot the system is very slow to actually get to the "boot" part and the bios 'select option' screen keeps coming up about 5 times before the system will actually get to the 'boot' phase; as in start from the hard drive. The actual system board is a SuperMicro server board with the latest Xeon E5 cpu, and I'm using an LSI 9207-4i4e HBA. The LSI has firmware revision 15 on it, and after a bit of research many people claimed to have a similar issue; though a firmware update seems to have solved most peoples problems. The current firmware for the device is revision 19 however, I don't seem to be able to update it?? What is odd though is that the system board is also showing the error as the root disks ada0 and ada1 - both with ZFS file system on mirror array - are connected directly to the SATA ports on the board. I'm running FreeBSD 10.0 RELEASE x64. I attempted to boot from a FreeDOS USB stick created by unetbootin, as the stick contained an Arch Linux installer I dd'ed the whole thing to Zero before installing FreeDOS onto it. However, the strange thing is that it doesn't seem to boot from the USB stick? It's a 2GB Sandisk Cruzer, which works fine as I installed FBSD from it on the same system. I think since there is no boot loader on the stick even though the bootable flag is 'on' that it doesn't work. Has anyone got any experience with this type of issue that can offer some advice in either what the issue maybe; the system has been up for a few months without any issues and this just started recently. Or how to boot from FreeDOS as the .bin file for the firmware of the LSI is already copied onto it?? Oh and just before I forget, "zpool status" doesn't show any errors, though the main storage pool wasn't able to mount at the first recent reboot so the system went into single user "emergency" mode. I had to export the pool then reboot, then import it; a scrub was performed which took about 29 hours - 10TB on the disks, but reported no issues, also disk io speeds seemed good at over 800 ops/sec (considering the drives are 2GB 2.5" WD Green). - the root drives are both SSD's. Many thanks. Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 19 17:14:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C290CEDD for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17:14:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm28-vm9.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm28-vm9.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.97.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 092BC3840 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17:14:01 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.es; s=s2048; t=1408468296; bh=o3O1DoUmuMeaWcFoNzOI8Fsrteb7eVjXt757TJEmBTw=; h=Received:Received:Received:DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Disposition-Notification-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=NdYLu3QmSKINSmTHvcg7MSXOTX1X2G3DVcVt30y1XvbWK1KUF8bgu8AQRep+pHroOftg3Ufht6cIPS3AqhnH+4JTWLPgFwxVbloCYE78acl0VszKWb8g64qg6lRTJaJnXDJYdom8N9rKKiYjnHX02TfbrCm6jMIqk67/cT1/nT3qVaK/oc3IFwuylAtHYj3C/n0D6bOVTcjupWS9Rg7+AUlPFQX059RPt4Ss7kIUla3G/yy4mCtFeZB6zWb5jaPvrcRXGqetl03P1oBBHJuguhQq8xwRRV7AZ6C43mMKqSSa7XJAI4gZN9YOLTkgJIa08ccQgTSXgA7fcYyhhPxk3w== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.es; b=Sct7vccVk5EHQA5ffbLGx2yavyS5BODwC7PWgxB6u9bG10JelMuZzT8QJab6qvSeKhO7hmePTyBK4Z7JGosAD5M5op6Q/YIFogwrVcsnJgEnO+3KPgHH7l6Vh3OpxQaq1lLiDNjPluYjrgA+0DZUiUsMuDmOOd+dA1vbnrhjzx1QILitQeO276N05pn63tvKFJxfKJmhIh7X+p9fqYEVnYTqwp7I/Qm24g7CDT6/8fHg/euBjLV7x7mH7eVIUK5OXv61QllM7+sz1xMGj8MiQCY/r9kppcUJBcSAKEqgmkdyFzd4MSIRpVj8t+L/fEcljpzO+/4Fc9v78cHc4XdG0g==; Received: from [212.82.98.53] by nm28.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2014 17:11:36 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.101] by tm6.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2014 17:11:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp138.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2014 17:11:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.es; s=s1024; t=1408468296; bh=o3O1DoUmuMeaWcFoNzOI8Fsrteb7eVjXt757TJEmBTw=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Disposition-Notification-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OpstywKXDLyFhJopXywTWlOf5hjVvLjJYgKaluGA+XrE2llzxuMqZAtFn9Hva+1UJZnWosAn2cDhNRKB0b4JoynQ3N+y8aeRdZrDu7ppTc8bbJjaf2ByC4jOd0Mjrn/2CKv7SOi3xhw8NdmOmDBWDAy1hrfwMkNxMWibNNlD6LI= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 72523.62877.bm@smtp138.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-YMail-OSG: 0Ou86_YVM1kGpPWiPPGsMycL.jO.ZAQY1mz9IaAjS.eEwQm 4CyPWq4bkmPc1luLdqBwLDZ4QoGHMZmOmVwDGq5NRuGYDQhk4waQ5wQ15slz SO3tQE96NvZqcMSgSv0kbQVIhpZAJ14KiU_vimIr7xD6gpehyH1afCDUxLhw cgCLkAuqG4RzwT3_LXab3HqA7c2j6fawvtwaZ7dd3Hb4407aRscs3fJCWWo2 KYcEOtXBWWX3zGsmgKjvBCBtQFCa4.sTA8xWbWDF6C4eBzioiRcVJ0Shvcin kKyG5JObTYpC7i_zXkJM02DbtFS83AkD4Xa_7SJkieLBQdPtX0mtThofW9vW wuKfKd4OIy.SSAmpK3Tp8.lnhZBvWuimryg0pEj1ts_NdTQMklqZ4uTgIWpO _H7dm7piF7RCdrjgvUCRtn5B9IhpH2Nq7gMIMXfIpM5gyCupVDb.KEdrJMqb sGco.vj09_ohXR01mm.UNP5.KEaJnKrLd6AQJjOW4uwbsDDCavDj57xfAdtU IT3dkbQ07Qh8D_EL_gB8lkhUqe4rcioktvyWaXYw7HQSbkQslcRPbog-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: mX392iiswBAeJNdO_s.EW62LZDJR Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:11:43 +0200 From: Eduardo Morras To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to encourage a wireless driver to exist? Message-Id: <20140819191143.3f4648b7f0416b5d5bc32ce6@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <6E8C8DB0-35AE-411D-BB34-D5D38E27E172@kraus-haus.org> References: <003e01cfb9db$8c11b1e0$a43515a0$@dcollins.info> <20140818233121.GA6745@z.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140818195748.375442d8@scorpio> <20140819101620.8d438b891873ce6f6b61d051@yahoo.es> <6E8C8DB0-35AE-411D-BB34-D5D38E27E172@kraus-haus.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.2 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17:14:02 -0000 On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:44:19 -0400 Paul Kraus wrote: > On Aug 19, 2014, at 4:16, Eduardo Morras wrote: > > > All this description is hardware and managed by hardware. > > I would be shocked if all of the requirements of IEEE 802.11af are > handled in the hardware! Go back and actually read and understand > that specification. I do not expect the hardware to be querying a > geolocation database (often multiple databases) and acting > accordingly. Not the requirements, but the description writed by Jerry. As I said too: > >Except for ciphers, autentication, etc.. the same applies for/with/to the rest of your descriptions, some of them still in development. There are parts of the standard like autentication, geolocation you cite and other parts that managed by the driver, but those part are mostlyt hardware agnostic and works with minor changes, if any, for all drivers. The hard part for 802.11n was done by, IIRC, Adrian Chadd and others, new drivers use the infrastructure created by them to not reimplement the wheel. > I have been watching this specific bit of spectrum from the Wireless > Microphone / FCC side for a decade now. If systems start coming into > use that do NOT follow the required procedures there will be hell to > pay as these specific frequencies are in use by lots of other users > besides wireless networking. When I began to use wireless, it was fantastic. Now, all my neighbours has wifi, smartphones, wireless telephones, bluetooth devices etc... and speeds went down to 500-600KB/sec. I wired again my home with gig ethernet. 0 problems. > > -- > Paul Kraus > paul@kraus-haus.org --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 19 18:21:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29B31CAB for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:21:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE61E3F6B for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 920B146B42 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:21:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s7JILXAr010269 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:21:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s7JILXcf010266 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:21:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:21:33 -0400 (EDT) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to encourage a wireless driver to exist? In-Reply-To: <20140819191143.3f4648b7f0416b5d5bc32ce6@yahoo.es> Message-ID: References: <003e01cfb9db$8c11b1e0$a43515a0$@dcollins.info> <20140818233121.GA6745@z.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140818195748.375442d8@scorpio> <20140819101620.8d438b891873ce6f6b61d051@yahoo.es> <6E8C8DB0-35AE-411D-BB34-D5D38E27E172@kraus-haus.org> <20140819191143.3f4648b7f0416b5d5bc32ce6@yahoo.es> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:21:33 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:21:34 -0000 On Tue, 19 Aug 2014, Eduardo Morras wrote: > On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:44:19 -0400 > Paul Kraus wrote: > >> On Aug 19, 2014, at 4:16, Eduardo Morras wrote: >> >>> All this description is hardware and managed by hardware. >> >> I would be shocked if all of the requirements of IEEE 802.11af are >> handled in the hardware! Go back and actually read and understand >> that specification. I do not expect the hardware to be querying a >> geolocation database (often multiple databases) and acting >> accordingly. > > Not the requirements, but the description writed by Jerry. As I said too: > >>> Except for ciphers, autentication, etc.. the same applies for/with/to the rest of your descriptions, some of them still in development. > > There are parts of the standard like autentication, geolocation you cite and other parts that managed by the driver, but those part are mostlyt hardware agnostic and works with minor changes, if any, for all drivers. > > The hard part for 802.11n was done by, IIRC, Adrian Chadd and others, new drivers use the infrastructure created by them to not reimplement the wheel. > >> I have been watching this specific bit of spectrum from the Wireless >> Microphone / FCC side for a decade now. If systems start coming into >> use that do NOT follow the required procedures there will be hell to >> pay as these specific frequencies are in use by lots of other users >> besides wireless networking. > > When I began to use wireless, it was fantastic. Now, all my neighbours has > wifi, smartphones, wireless telephones, bluetooth devices etc... and speeds > went down to 500-600KB/sec. I wired again my home with gig ethernet. 0 > problems. > The original question was how to, or more to the point, is it possible to get a driver for the xyz wifi card. If there is an answer to that (past write it dude), it probably will involve back-porting from PC-BSD or finding a way to support drivers written for Linux or any BSD that is somewhat more X11-centric. As an aside, http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ linked to by the handbook and PC-BSD support threads remains down. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 19 19:26:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B6AFB96 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:26:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49FD83687 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:26:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.138.26] (helo=tiny-r269739) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1XJp2d-00033U-07 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 21:25:59 +0200 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 21:25:48 +0000 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to encourage a wireless driver to exist? Message-ID: <20140819212548.GA1081@tiny-r269739> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <003e01cfb9db$8c11b1e0$a43515a0$@dcollins.info> <20140818233121.GA6745@z.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140818195748.375442d8@scorpio> <20140819101620.8d438b891873ce6f6b61d051@yahoo.es> <6E8C8DB0-35AE-411D-BB34-D5D38E27E172@kraus-haus.org> <20140819191143.3f4648b7f0416b5d5bc32ce6@yahoo.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT r214444 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.138.26 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:26:08 -0000 El día Tuesday, August 19, 2014 a las 02:21:33PM -0400, doug escribió: > As an aside, http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ linked to by the handbook and > PC-BSD support threads remains down. This side is down and unlikely will go online again. We are trying to get at least the data from the folks to bring it up in the new wiki, see https://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops/ matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII_Ribbon_Campaign From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 19 19:31:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38549E24 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:31:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mo6-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de (mo6-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de [IPv6:2a01:238:20a:202:5300::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.smtp.rzone.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2E6C3744 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:31:52 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1408476708; l=290; s=domk; d=devconsole.de; h=To:Date:Subject:Mime-Version:From:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; bh=Ah/gZgAeL7qFMP/ygbcffqtrw08=; b=id8RI693yBz92DpMZOADjxgAdUqx8FHbkbLGEuCZ/LCob0EefF9judlgFhPAT+5iQgl rUiUfTSTxM3eDhroLTI80maJaGUMuec6pRFLnfXGaxA+pujkEqN5ReDxwzdB6svvUdhrn TmbfDhZYaSRcaCrFWs7QhnS2f48omwPB6g8= X-RZG-AUTH: :KG0GemCsfumRxL5HjNQbXRInG5aOlLNNECkXWhr7ZMsd3tNXjl3L5xxcqShMqjzBttBHrTA05RV7ARf6lS2zA/Eiu5xwdvg= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Received: from [IPv6:2003:58:a41d:4a00:ac01:6abd:8b53:f41d] (p20030058A41D4A00AC016ABD8B53F41D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [IPv6:2003:58:a41d:4a00:ac01:6abd:8b53:f41d]) by smtp.strato.de (RZmta 35.8 AUTH) with ESMTPSA id V0213aq7JJVmap0 (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 21:31:48 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Boggasch Daniel Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Does FreeBSD will run on a old MacBook laptop? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 21:31:48 +0200 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11D257) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:31:53 -0000 how did you proceed? I also have such a device. FreeBSD 10 runs pretty well.= Did you get the wifi running? Neither the bwn driver nor ndis did it for me.= But I get it working with a custom ZFS-only setup in a BootCamp partition, h= aving Mac OS X on the first one.=20 Daniel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 19 20:29:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB257A6A for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 20:29:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3D153BFE for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 20:29:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from otaku.freeshell.org (IDENT:case@otaku.freeshell.org [192.94.73.9]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s7JKT7aB014624 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256 bits) verified NO) for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 20:29:20 GMT Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 20:29:07 +0000 (UTC) From: John Case X-X-Sender: case@faeroes.freeshell.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Did /nonexistent go away in FreeBSD 9 ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 20:29:57 -0000 I point a particular application to a 7.x system using a login with /nonexistent as the home directory and /sbin/nologin as the shell. I copied the line from 'vipw' into a new 9.x system, and now when I try to connect, the application complains. I also have securelevel=2 ... So, did something change with /nonexistent in FreeBSD 9, or does securelevel=2 screw this up somehow ?? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 19 20:35:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B258CA6 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 20:35:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FAFA3CBA for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 20:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD378C163DE for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2C75B8C163DD; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:35:35 -0700 From: David Benfell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: no option to copy an email address in Firefox? Message-ID: <20140819203535.GA85072@home.parts-unknown.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+QahgC5+KEYLbs62" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 20:35:42 -0000 --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I'm encountering an issue with Firefox that I haven't seen before. When I right-click on an email address on my owncloud site, with the intent of copying the address to use in mutt (via an ssh session), it brings up an application dialog. If I hit cancel on the application dialog, I do not have the option to copy the email address. Why is Firefox behaving this way under FreeBSD? It hasn't done this on any other operating system I've used. Thanks! --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT87UWAAoJEBV64x4SNmArWiYP/2kHvIGzF26maASLlsy9TSKm YjR5WC7IdX/KPwuXyzxTKiZl2pD29UcFycThrQS+/J6n4J8RD/MEjyKYCEczMR/Y G0S7ldXSoFKh8nceT09wwxG5p7kEbb+6Gz7gMacTJFiFFwxYTeO+ioRMh0QviYnK B/z8mniCWNGhS7D1ePuFsaCk4biqsMJvnP6VovgEB1llbxES5jU7qwDHYh+WGTtJ zBs3owJ1uHQrtmwyuKOlbmqj9BXXrNflD1D8szxgze8l/QlyorRbVVrcHl3oNyVH Daq9PrtQVyL+MnC1OMUpEZpONXdaWKBRWPAS6o0qPttc+ZrT3MuuYnu9BhfazeZE R4OJfflVdfa8Pg1EeVVJPtGvN8CJBomeqK8/BH1Y1N2aNpgxEoLx14ebjotSLyK/ dWtufdInHOEl4jJ8n/kuZUYcCroNkQNNXk3teF8Ljuq10VfAbJc1sDWLXQVhAorz Z8HS/Xkuvo+k0XabgzTaHsMpR5CV570270Hr3wvNmTQDJNVnY/6XcpeTDfhK3YWW esGKz/lW0z+GqG1IUxBI1t7SHT/xroqf3p5maQUx/+qh6PLRuuOSF6zcrrMSCUlm JuaJSM0+GQX/F79iBASy+MM/S0XnOfKMuOzcfasoKCnK7RQ3lOlog0JDSQ1P5spa TDUqe/YTfJ5IjY2OxiP2 =jamJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 19 21:10:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60CAD832 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 21:10:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2380F301F for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 21:10:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2749B27742; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 23:01:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7JL1TK7003336; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 23:01:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 23:01:29 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David Benfell Subject: Re: no option to copy an email address in Firefox? Message-Id: <20140819230129.77a26b27.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140819203535.GA85072@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140819203535.GA85072@home.parts-unknown.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 21:10:21 -0000 On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:35:35 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > When I right-click on an email address on my owncloud site, with the > intent of copying the address to use in mutt (via an ssh session), it > brings up an application dialog. If I hit cancel on the application > dialog, I do not have the option to copy the email address. You could try to use the edito buffer presemt in X (and independent from Firefox and mutt): Select the text with the left mouse button (or doubleclick at the address, it should be selected now), then switch focus to the terminal running mutt, and press the middle mouse button - the selected text should now appear. Make sure that the cursor is in the correct input field, usually there is no mouse support for positioning the cursor prior to output. This should work for ssh, as it "emulates keystrokes" and therefore doesn't rely on ^C / ^V buffering. Note: If you don't have a mouse with three buttons, but a mouse wheel, press down the wheel. If your mouse has only two buttons, press both. I'm using this method regularly to copy text into and out of different programs and windows. Needless to say, I have a real 3-button mouse. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 19 21:20:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08DFEACB for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 21:20:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x22d.google.com (mail-wi0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97CCF31D2 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 21:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f173.google.com with SMTP id f8so6111291wiw.6 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:20:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=1LtlYgLLbWyy+MWRcPvpzkwaUaGh9qs9BGdfJJw9qpg=; b=zE2ZO31SvsElofc/7FLeozY5b9I3432tgUdsBQan4aW1ybLuWiL6z+idF5pUTMkU7L rIYCUCemwklKT4mTXlCW548q+Y/haFCL2Dsln2k6864o7dcquukD7D4Lk7C8XjE1glyr k345VxNJdujsZlYBfRGUZXOKMbHevvxuN+hMA2JTZ0YFmfvYG4mBfBhIH+PopV68Cq9L YJ1co9mHW3WpI99vrmi1aLm07XbaZwIIlLATkMg9EQkS/W/3KYGP1kHs/bE3vW/3l/s+ ffzcL7jyn5siEoWJ7QacG+ggdlZVtgegBGDS9T/rbaYNJYlEDpv9exuBQBVPTQkbxKaO Ibxg== X-Received: by 10.194.206.67 with SMTP id lm3mr54581877wjc.70.1408483245970; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:20:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.121.37 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:20:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Miguel Clara Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 22:20:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Can you please try to open this site in a FreeBSD machine, Chormium or Firefox? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 21:20:48 -0000 This migh be a stupid request, but if you guys open https://use.cloudshare.com/test.mvc and then click Technical details does it keep loading or is it successful? I'm just seeing it loading even for the HTML5 Canvas and this is happening on 2 FreeBSD laptops on both Chromium and Firefox, I see some js errors in the console: Use of getUserData() or setUserData() is deprecated. Use WeakMap or element.dataset instead. requestNotifier.js:63 ReferenceError: u is not defined jquery-migrate-1.1.1.js:268 ReferenceError: u is not defined common.js:35 TypeError: itst.formatTimeLeft is not a function ee.js:12 TypeError: $(...).notificationBar is not a function index.aspx:390 Its working fine on Chorme for Android OSX and Windows so I have no clue why I'm getting difference results on this machines, I wonder if anyone else running FreeBSD (10 or current) see's the same. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 19 21:33:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 293C9EC0 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 21:33:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD50E32F8 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 21:33:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7JLXhlX045166 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:33:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s7JLXhTj045128; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:33:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:33:43 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Miguel Clara Subject: Re: Can you please try to open this site in a FreeBSD machine, Chormium or Firefox? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:33:43 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 21:33:45 -0000 On Tue, 19 Aug 2014, Miguel Clara wrote: > This migh be a stupid request, but if you guys open > https://use.cloudshare.com/test.mvc and then click Technical details does > it keep loading or is it successful? > > I'm just seeing it loading even for the HTML5 Canvas and this is happening > on 2 FreeBSD laptops on both Chromium and Firefox, I see some js errors in > the console: > > Use of getUserData() or setUserData() is deprecated. Use WeakMap or > element.dataset instead. requestNotifier.js:63 > ReferenceError: u is not defined jquery-migrate-1.1.1.js:268 > ReferenceError: u is not defined common.js:35 > TypeError: itst.formatTimeLeft is not a function ee.js:12 > TypeError: $(...).notificationBar is not a function index.aspx:390 > > > Its working fine on Chorme for Android OSX and Windows so I have no clue > why I'm getting difference results on this machines, I wonder if anyone > else running FreeBSD (10 or current) see's the same. Thanks Shows the same on Firefox here, once I allowed Javascript. It seems pretty Windows-centric, and might really want Java. Their speed test just redirects to Oracle. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 19 21:49:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87D7D1D2 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 21:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from port80.smtpcorp.com (port80.smtpcorp.com [207.58.147.67]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C270341A for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 21:49:23 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=smtpcorp.com; s=a0_1; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:To:From; bh=WJN5yoXCYoe9EDYkfyD24ZFcfYEsoveW2jQBwA/k3lE=; b=IoXnKNwXkkkMXj2zUr4YRPd0yREfu+bncER0H6i2rZvpgrrpIlfb8P+f4fiDDRlfJy0NmgMajiGEjv34+5R614jePv6sMW0CnRDkuQpaUY8NwH0HSxkNKLyAzo1QBu1LyXuKCsXEdH8mWIdJPQxe65EQ3KwKJfbE+Zd270w9+4g=; From: "Daniel Corbe" To: "'Miguel Clara'" , References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Can you please try to open this site in a FreeBSD machine, Chormium or Firefox? Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17:24:56 -0400 Message-ID: <05ff01cfbbf4$064c45f0$12e4d1d0$@ntelos.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQHMi3IpD21HqFVUz/cxpZVe/C+Rjpve0RjQ Content-Language: en-us X-Smtpcorp-Track: 1bJqth4gfmV0jI.88CknCbIL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 21:49:24 -0000 The following is a breakdown of all the low level tests performed. The final result is shown above. It's ok for some of these tests to fail if the final result shows that at least one remote access method is available. RDP Connectivity: Cancelled Validation cancelled due to one of more outdated or missing prerequisites (CloudShare Plugin) Accelerated RDP Connectivity: Cancelled Validation cancelled due to one of more outdated or missing prerequisites (CloudShare Plugin) Secure WebSockets Connectivity: OK HTML Canvas: OK Browser & Operating System: OK chrome 36.0.1985.143 running on Windows RDP Control: 0 Plug-in: Not installed Test ID: CSCT559F3377 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Miguel Clara Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 5:20 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Can you please try to open this site in a FreeBSD machine, Chormium or Firefox? This migh be a stupid request, but if you guys open https://use.cloudshare.com/test.mvc and then click Technical details does it keep loading or is it successful? I'm just seeing it loading even for the HTML5 Canvas and this is happening on 2 FreeBSD laptops on both Chromium and Firefox, I see some js errors in the console: Use of getUserData() or setUserData() is deprecated. Use WeakMap or element.dataset instead. requestNotifier.js:63 ReferenceError: u is not defined jquery-migrate-1.1.1.js:268 ReferenceError: u is not defined common.js:35 TypeError: itst.formatTimeLeft is not a function ee.js:12 TypeError: $(...).notificationBar is not a function index.aspx:390 Its working fine on Chorme for Android OSX and Windows so I have no clue why I'm getting difference results on this machines, I wonder if anyone else running FreeBSD (10 or current) see's the same. Thanks _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 19 23:54:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D66A27ED for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 23:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x230.google.com (mail-wi0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6213C3F03 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 23:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f176.google.com with SMTP id bs8so6245202wib.9 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:54:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=wuXTiY4IEN6crus1Jn4GvprD69qMUbIitAKgOqxTWNA=; b=bq4lQak4/o0MQIANZyu4LBkjsEVvrE4A8y6S9v2szUjpJGjW0dnLf8paViaNwuuRh1 ts6mVQS9y6Npmo+kbAxJmGIempOA1Bb/OxH8gpGSzqnqkY04xQoiWgCoLXJ042Yv+n3L Z43sCLFJkhnZTcpc6aSQjvIrotVCSktq5J5pczJn1NgDhAblBdYo1A6rRGsJxc9mtjI4 m3QJiGoc0CrWMX6ErnZqxoyC9nKNTw7xqu/ApMmC0Lnp/XSkk/sGWasMzRCnE8ATLg9x vd7WcRC8bnc4YxBiZz3ArEoqCT6NVKZ2z7yLVhLbt0Dky3RgApjsU1Wf4ZBJUCMXjAXv yGLQ== X-Received: by 10.180.10.166 with SMTP id j6mr10534600wib.73.1408492462712; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:54:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.121.37 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:54:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <05ff01cfbbf4$064c45f0$12e4d1d0$@ntelos.com> References: <05ff01cfbbf4$064c45f0$12e4d1d0$@ntelos.com> From: Miguel Clara Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 00:54:02 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Can you please try to open this site in a FreeBSD machine, Chormium or Firefox? To: Daniel Corbe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 23:54:24 -0000 I noticed "Browser & Operating System: OK chrome 36.0.1985.143 running on Windows" Did you run it on windows or are you using and extension to mask the OS? Thanks Melhores Cumprimentos // Best Regards ----------------------------------------------- *Miguel Clara* *IT - Sys Admin & Developer* *E-mail: *miguelmclara@gmail.com www.linkedin.com/in/miguelmclara/ On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Daniel Corbe wrote: > > The following is a breakdown of all the low level tests performed. The > final > result is shown above. It's ok for some of these tests to fail if the final > result shows that at least one remote access method is available. > RDP Connectivity: Cancelled Validation cancelled due to one of > more outdated or missing prerequisites (CloudShare Plugin) > Accelerated RDP Connectivity: Cancelled Validation cancelled due to > one of more outdated or missing prerequisites (CloudShare Plugin) > Secure WebSockets Connectivity: OK > HTML Canvas: OK > Browser & Operating System: OK chrome 36.0.1985.143 running on > Windows > RDP Control: 0 > Plug-in: Not installed > Test ID: CSCT559F3377 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Miguel Clara > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 5:20 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Can you please try to open this site in a FreeBSD machine, > Chormium > or Firefox? > > This migh be a stupid request, but if you guys open > https://use.cloudshare.com/test.mvc and then click Technical details does > it > keep loading or is it successful? > > I'm just seeing it loading even for the HTML5 Canvas and this is happening > on 2 FreeBSD laptops on both Chromium and Firefox, I see some js errors in > the console: > > Use of getUserData() or setUserData() is deprecated. Use WeakMap or > element.dataset instead. requestNotifier.js:63 > ReferenceError: u is not defined jquery-migrate-1.1.1.js:268 > ReferenceError: u is not defined common.js:35 > TypeError: itst.formatTimeLeft is not a function ee.js:12 > TypeError: $(...).notificationBar is not a function index.aspx:390 > > > Its working fine on Chorme for Android OSX and Windows so I have no clue > why > I'm getting difference results on this machines, I wonder if anyone else > running FreeBSD (10 or current) see's the same. Thanks > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 20 01:19:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D448C782 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 01:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA08835D1 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 01:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636678C16606; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4559F8C16605; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:19:44 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Polytropon Subject: Re: no option to copy an email address in Firefox? Message-ID: <20140820011944.GA19544@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140819203535.GA85072@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140819230129.77a26b27.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jRHKVT23PllUwdXP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140819230129.77a26b27.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 01:19:47 -0000 --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:01:29PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:35:35 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > > When I right-click on an email address on my owncloud site, with the > > intent of copying the address to use in mutt (via an ssh session), it > > brings up an application dialog. If I hit cancel on the application > > dialog, I do not have the option to copy the email address. >=20 > You could try to use the edito buffer presemt in X (and > independent from Firefox and mutt): Select the text with > the left mouse button (or doubleclick at the address, it > should be selected now), then switch focus to the terminal > running mutt, and press the middle mouse button - the > selected text should now appear. Make sure that the cursor > is in the correct input field, usually there is no mouse > support for positioning the cursor prior to output. This > should work for ssh, as it "emulates keystrokes" and therefore > doesn't rely on ^C / ^V buffering. >=20 > Note: If you don't have a mouse with three buttons, but > a mouse wheel, press down the wheel. If your mouse has > only two buttons, press both. >=20 > I'm using this method regularly to copy text into and out > of different programs and windows. Needless to say, I have > a real 3-button mouse. :-) >=20 Generally, I have a very good four-button trackball mouse (so the middle button is actually upper left). It's only when I'm on the road and have no place to set up that trackball that I might be reduced to the awful touchpad and it's awful two buttons. There's something weird about owncloud that doesn't allow you to swipe that way (and owncloud is where I keep all my contact information). It's possible to get it by actually opening up the contact, but this of course is clumsy and risks an unintended edit. So I was hoping for 'normal' behavior. The best answer would be if pycarddav was available as a port on FreeBSD; this interfaces neatly with mutt (and I'm actually already configured to use it), but while I see from Google that someone intended on porting it, apparently they never followed through :-( https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D189098 --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT8/ewAAoJEBV64x4SNmArO6UQAKLvEEcA58Uc0JzEGr1gxtzZ 5D352jcDsUbfmyDhyv81+/5Y0dj06UK+zq/xPHjCIWUTjJYSgAMZ04jJRc5EzZPO bXbTgy7z+8asEEiS/ElQKMk4gCrrMO0oLapUfqLUgo1gzGXPOrCdndj3cW7p2rDD bDpVIIyx1e6JPwlNCqY2RyohqskRROC7sxQRJgyifs2RliA1mO23s/q1jxwwHqcF 1C8w986dHJ8+CMincDa3pGChRhuPeKok1QjxKl/w6bKrD7yl2oWhx+eMkW2TRPVK 5ZA5YVSpohRUoaNbIlQS+omqD5aZ+Fd3uZfpXeTft033tjH3fzleodNoLQCoFRjs vgENX0RGNWl+RtsvjZk62SYnUT6LSRLjvma9i97i5mWkI6Jhai2A2O9YDeEfvNbo ehadHd3NW5iGQXbwYsMJaClfvs2fb98e6ftC1qYv9p6yRmDFWXsW6acbsx/JIrHe 0GbxzLvRv6N3AECATr1GItagZ1/1aFYrqxcgKcU4q4SWocZvtyxFhN777UP2d5NL H4CHv/n3522hP0dhTkRFf+cY0Of/l7oapDmtLvqOAPs4K0JtjrTDM/lfqvDCSqUf 4jNF6v+O+J7XnsXMSir4kcywh3pVvR8Bff2ZhCrBh9hTWyOQnCEw5nlyOnocYvsK pU/8bhNpKqn0xoPdhtO7 =NVaA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 20 01:35:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0EA6EC47 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 01:35:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x230.google.com (mail-we0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A04703757 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 01:35:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f176.google.com with SMTP id q58so7216020wes.21 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:35:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=QESTghmLCEaDawglejSZBcaOGnYbsfd69ezEigRR+bg=; b=JnISTyxu19qqUvTBjKSJhRRwc7Zff/FcRA9fMtGbrQ5Bzo5X0HYvmO1XIWHhSJxaKl GcHYGsn857L144GZnzy2iJFMBPtggWEXAShZncVm2HwLH5Ag0I7J7OYl50vD3vPOjf3k qU7wMIGgfGEoiIrlQaIAHclzilYGWj/WrdAE2kVzzF7/PJAfToJcwN0UZFkx4yENw0w5 6daFtSUSCjBw2N6O/ec3B4eYCV880bUi/goX9y4tMd+/jaQbSETwQoe5xNmuf74Cs8JG nCsCit4oUeMux1mkQkVJX/qX6B+Lj9IdnFYqizoNmgQ3KNdaMVmp80guX/zXEC6B35XW 3ofA== X-Received: by 10.180.38.39 with SMTP id d7mr10891996wik.24.1408498507872; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:35:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.121.37 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:34:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Miguel Clara Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 02:34:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: [SOLVED] Can you please try to open this site in a FreeBSD machine, Chormium or Firefox? To: Daniel Corbe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 01:35:10 -0000 Using Firefox about:config - > general.platform.override and setting it to "win32" got around the problem. I've reported it to jquery migrate on github, cause if the os is not in the list it should use the "u" var, and this is were it fails.... probably the version of jquery they are using does not set the "u" var. Anyway thanks for testing guys! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 20 07:29:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 660C4F4F; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 07:29:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-x232.google.com (mail-oa0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C37F3843; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 07:29:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id g18so6060113oah.23 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 00:29:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NyX5iGkKUgfUtP9KH26Epu5lSbczfhEJziJZAwh0NcQ=; b=Tn9FYdJ17VMYNumUgSVbAq1WdLEynJD7U1XfNgKbFZQ+0nc77N2H756Me49mPlOz8W NcpaoP0igVGtw0tMNYWvp7baJmElHqZAPeIFDtabbm1JUzSL1vbzHKzqFrLBuNdEjzTW eqQSC1+N15DXzcmovMxeo6gmR6NlxoRRYlqow8/EXTavOCWThipnM5JDOmRhl5nEjrBk FYmKLKzUH62OVay9AXGUCcRrb2Rc/6a7lvdEzgNqQCzUo9wB0AoqpvdXIRBlknjnKLdL AyIblzvT20c4ukBvAvsrXhqTAeLJAq4/+L7JnITXE+ivT74jAp5mEkNPx1cwQw+fCRei MMHQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.159.232 with SMTP id xf8mr47653573oeb.16.1408519765328; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 00:29:25 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.202.75.15 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 00:29:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 09:29:25 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: jGS1P7nTglhcfVyN040rtbvaPRQ Message-ID: Subject: FBSD 10.0 USB Memstick Loader hangs on HP EliteBook 2740p From: CeDeROM To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 07:29:26 -0000 Hello :-) Loader of the FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE AMD64 hangs on load in random moments when booting FreeBSD-10.0-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img on HP EliteBook 2740p. There is no problem on other machines, the problem does not allow kernel to load and boot, I have tried other USB sticks, BIOS update does not change anything. I have booted 64bit both Win7 and Linux from USB drive with success. There is no optical drive, so the only alternative would be to use pxe install, I will try the loader and let you know back if this is anything USB related or rather Loader/Hardware problem.. How the loader problem can be traced back? 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At linking stage I get /usr/local/bin/clang++34 -o ./Debug/Project @"Project.txt" -L. /usr/bin/ld: Dwarf Error: found dwarf version '4', this reader only handles version 2 information. My makefile doesn't call ld, it's clang++34 who calls it. I know I must upgrade my FreeBSD, but meanwhile, how can I force clang++34 to use /usr/local/bin/ld? I can't find how do it in clang++34 --help, clang34 man or clang.llvm.org domentation. System ld /usr/bin/ld -v GNU ld 2.17.50 [FreeBSD] 2007-07-03 /usr/local/bin/ld -v GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.24 TIA --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 20 11:12:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D093D58 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:12:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baobab.bilink.net (baobab.bilink.net [212.45.144.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85903030 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:12:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3hdRCp1H10zCy1m for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:12:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mcs.it Received: from baobab.bilink.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (baobab.mcs.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 11027) with ESMTP id ZYT7JyWrU-Tw for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:12:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hermes.mcs.it (hermes.mcs.it [192.168.132.21]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3hdRCp08btzCy1l for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:12:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mordeus (unknown [192.168.44.6]) by hermes.mcs.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18B41B757D for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:12:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:12:07 +0200 From: Luciano Mannucci To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ld supports dwarf 2 only under FreeBSD 9.2 In-Reply-To: <20140820125600.bb214ec2366badf0c4cc9372@yahoo.es> References: <20140820125600.bb214ec2366badf0c4cc9372@yahoo.es> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) X-Face: 4qPv4GNcD; h<7Q/sK>+GqF4=CR@KmnPkSmwd+#%\F`4yjKO3"C]p'z=(oWRnsYBQGM\5g:4skqQY0NnV'dM:Mm:^/_+I@a"; [-s=ogufdF"9ggQ'=y MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <3hdRCp08btzCy1l@baobab.bilink.it> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:12:30 -0000 On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 12:56:00 +0200 Eduardo Morras wrote: > My makefile doesn't call ld, it's clang++34 who calls it. > > I know I must upgrade my FreeBSD, but meanwhile, how can I force clang++34 to > use /usr/local/bin/ld? I can't find how do it in clang++34 --help, clang34 > man or clang.llvm.org domentation. You may wish to try something like this: root@mordillod:~ # cat /usr/local/bin/switchld #!/bin/sh DIST=/usr/bin/ld ADIST=/usr/bin/ar RDIST=/usr/bin/ranlib MIST=/usr/bin/ld.dist AMIST=/usr/bin/ar.dist RMIST=/usr/bin/ranlib.dist [ "$1" = "-t" ] && { [ -x "$DIST" ] && echo $DIST || echo Should be in /usr/local/bin exit 0 } [ -x "$DIST" ] && mv "$DIST" "$MIST" || mv "$MIST" "$DIST" [ -x "$ADIST" ] && mv "$ADIST" "$AMIST" || mv "$AMIST" "$ADIST" [ -x "$RDIST" ] && mv "$RDIST" "$RMIST" || mv "$RMIST" "$RDIST" exit 0 Cheers, Luciano. -- /"\ /Via A. 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U2eETuMcE7j7TvxwAsrLW7PqeLXI1pehDTXzB_M7cQwrwOpY_DXyUVOtGNGr FFlkLGhfenqEXE.T.zlWX7UK3xQDECM1wYfQT.Gh4dxeKkrac7t.4hfQnVq1 gy7eh9YPMC7My4SCJSCT3hg4hVyV0XQPh2ytgGqbs9c5ELPhuefw7PdkRStD 7gndt72tI4Q8Vv2AaBY1HB3w9RXG7i9TvsAL5sYIqubtkAs1jvsz.XtVp26r 4seHhBCAsTbFdV.GcqJIKTx8zfbjE82uwDAsEo8rsPbrESGmKyXymzQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: mX392iiswBAeJNdO_s.EW62LZDJR Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:43:36 +0200 From: Eduardo Morras To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ld supports dwarf 2 only under FreeBSD 9.2 Message-Id: <20140820134336.958ed719cb7eb164dea4ea49@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <3hdRCp08btzCy1l@baobab.bilink.it> References: <20140820125600.bb214ec2366badf0c4cc9372@yahoo.es> <3hdRCp08btzCy1l@baobab.bilink.it> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.2 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:43:38 -0000 On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:12:07 +0200 Luciano Mannucci wrote: > On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 12:56:00 +0200 > Eduardo Morras wrote: > > > My makefile doesn't call ld, it's clang++34 who calls it. > > > > I know I must upgrade my FreeBSD, but meanwhile, how can I force > > clang++34 to use /usr/local/bin/ld? I can't find how do it in clang+ > > +34 --help, clang34 man or clang.llvm.org domentation. > You may wish to try something like this: It works, I was looking for a less agressive method, but works. Thanks! > Cheers, > > Luciano. --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 20 14:17:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DAB7EC3 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:17:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6B6733E8 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:17:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-19-29.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.29]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7KEHonO017202 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 09:17:50 -0500 Message-ID: <53F4AF84.4050002@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 09:24:04 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: XFCE oddity .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:17:58 -0000 .... I am running XFCE under FBSD 9.3, w/ xfwm4 window manager, all box-stock XFCE. I use rxvt terminals running tcsh for CLI work, usually have *many* open at one time. I have the following tcsh alias set: cwdcmd 'echo -n "\033]2;${HOST}:\057$cwd\007\033]1;$cwd:t\007"' Under my old desktop (FC14, Gnome desktop, rxvt terminals, tcsh), this would set the title bar of the window to ':current directory', and the panel marker similarly, worked AOK. It is only partially working under FBSD/XFCE, however. Whenever I cd from one dir to another, nothing happens. Indeed, most of my terminals just say 'rxvt' in their title bar & panel marker. However, if I SSH to another machine, or to my ISP (They give you shell account on their server :-) ), the title bar & panel marker are correctly updated. What gives here ? The fact that it works sometimes indicates that my setting for the alias is OK, but XFCE or FVWM4 isn't responding correctly .... Bug ? TIA .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 20 15:06:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DDB86E2 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (mwlucas-2-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:b9c::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E5E7394A for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7KF5vTT091001 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:06:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id s7KF5v21091000 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:05:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:05:57 -0400 From: "Michael W. Lucas" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: geli keyfile not loading at boot Message-ID: <20140820150557.GA90970@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:06:09 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:06:11 -0000 Hi, I have a default FreeBSD 10.0/amd64 install. I'm trying to make a GELI device attach at boot. I initialized the partition with -b, and am prompted at boot. When I try to enter the passphrase, I keep getting told that it's incorrect. Once I get into multi-user mode and manually attach the device, it attaches just fine. It seems that GELI isn't finding my key file. My initial root partition is da0p2. The key is /boot/da1p1.key. The GELI partition is da1p1. Here's my loader.conf: geom_eli_load=YES geli_da1p1_keyfile0_load="YES" geli_da1p1_keyfile0_type="da0p2:geli_da1p1_keyfile0" geli_da1p1_keyfile0_name="/boot/da1p1.key" kern.geom.eli.debug=3 Any suggestions? What am I doing wrong here? (Yes, I could just use the installer to do an encrypted install, but then I wouldn't be able to write about this in a book...) Thanks, ==ml -- Michael W. Lucas - mwlucas@michaelwlucas.com, Twitter @mwlauthor http://www.MichaelWLucas.com/, http://blather.MichaelWLucas.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 20 15:08:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3D4D7D8 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:08:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-x22c.google.com (mail-oa0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B116A3986 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:08:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id eb12so6451096oac.17 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 08:08:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GOnkufBMuO/R30lJVzxkSO7o+wfYJfVnLBn+6zkJEME=; b=hfaFoSjsckogcbWxC3a7HLPlvO6qtVO/ijTmJrqLvnMfL6aL+9wt/LU4g6Ijcyfc/d xabx4L3ccCWwONH3fnj/hWZP4bTFNGF/DfaC9PuwzkVIiHyTc69yWlPbZHMo0hmu54Ab qC2TW8Tlti/JmqOLieuNKDjinG9U4oooFopnFQBdWsyCDhjb9rzZQwELyTWU/QshjqqP lBzyiysyyiG1U7/4NNALty2XBLbHRBexwMFS1Wh7AaqkC3k3ZkQg0He5WUvP/kzw1J0q RSDd8LXlS87FU32yDp8dBF7AHWqEYHsean2JWSzQ0f+kEUsGJxm/l9bKNXAogr35zP4M sMZg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.236.65 with SMTP id us1mr50028090obc.38.1408547331025; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 08:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.160.71 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 08:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:08:50 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: small pc From: Gardner Bell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:08:52 -0000 Hello, I'm looking to replace some of my older machines that I use for dns, firewall, etc with low power alternatives. 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Thanks -- Gardner Bell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 20 15:11:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4408B90F for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:11:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x22f.google.com (mail-pa0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E0683A50 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:11:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id kx10so12144305pab.34 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 08:11:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=DNTk0y5b0xzOcYpKneIrnbB0LePylmQCp9uGBbDgyQQ=; b=LwV62rez4v5RmNYituSzZ16dAzdcIdcy9dSW1K5pz5dC9/yylxdNpX9A2t0LvnUDyB plt94IONdhdq5vijSp+psR53cgke8on8FJm1Z+Dst6rYEegrcYrkip85RKgaLAmA8rYU MtMHd4MbVE72OuRzomP8p2O4xDiDA4YYr3NK9cWrJfBlAARDIRVB8ecxwNElH55y8wkL 79y2uJxFHwZyLfFTrgD7WOcPEMnZpApStMZF47i4FjnMLuaU9le8ER2O0Ymtcw1uuncM kPhKJPCtQ1uTW15Ry1pzfag8Jw4/p9EI+pyahvtWDzpiVTibsuNkCGYTtHE3YFF1BLTk FJfw== X-Received: by 10.70.38.161 with SMTP id h1mr59623702pdk.105.1408547471844; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 08:11:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.70.127.226 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 08:10:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140820150557.GA90970@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> References: <20140820150557.GA90970@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> From: Anton Sayetsky Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:10:51 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: geli keyfile not loading at boot To: "Michael W. Lucas" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:11:17 -0000 2014-08-20 18:05 GMT+03:00 Michael W. Lucas : > Hi, > > I have a default FreeBSD 10.0/amd64 install. > > I'm trying to make a GELI device attach at boot. I initialized the > partition with -b, and am prompted at boot. When I try to enter the > passphrase, I keep getting told that it's incorrect. Once I get into > multi-user mode and manually attach the device, it attaches just fine. > > It seems that GELI isn't finding my key file. > > My initial root partition is da0p2. The key is /boot/da1p1.key. The > GELI partition is da1p1. Here's my loader.conf: > > geom_eli_load=YES > geli_da1p1_keyfile0_load="YES" ->>> > geli_da1p1_keyfile0_type="da0p2:geli_da1p1_keyfile0" -<<< This is wrong. > geli_da1p1_keyfile0_name="/boot/da1p1.key" > kern.geom.eli.debug=3 > > Any suggestions? What am I doing wrong here? > > (Yes, I could just use the installer to do an encrypted install, but > then I wouldn't be able to write about this in a book...) > > Thanks, > ==ml > > -- > Michael W. Lucas - mwlucas@michaelwlucas.com, Twitter @mwlauthor > http://www.MichaelWLucas.com/, http://blather.MichaelWLucas.com/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 20 15:48:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E891C60 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 620F73EF8 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 589C546B45; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:48:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s7KFmian093566; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:48:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s7KFmiSm093561; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:48:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:48:44 -0400 (EDT) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: XFCE oddity .... In-Reply-To: <53F4AF84.4050002@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: References: <53F4AF84.4050002@hiwaay.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:48:45 -0400 (EDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:48:46 -0000 On Wed, 20 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > .... I am running XFCE under FBSD 9.3, w/ xfwm4 window manager, all box-stock > XFCE. I use rxvt terminals running tcsh for CLI work, usually have *many* > open at one time. I have the following tcsh alias set: > > cwdcmd 'echo -n "\033]2;${HOST}:\057$cwd\007\033]1;$cwd:t\007"' > > Under my old desktop (FC14, Gnome desktop, rxvt terminals, tcsh), this would > set the title bar of the window to ':current directory', and the > panel marker similarly, worked AOK. It is only partially working under > FBSD/XFCE, however. Whenever I cd from one dir to another, nothing happens. > Indeed, most of my terminals just say 'rxvt' in their title bar & panel > marker. However, if I SSH to another machine, or to my ISP (They give you > shell account on their server :-) ), the title bar & panel marker are > correctly updated. What gives here ? The fact that it works sometimes > indicates that my setting for the alias is OK, but XFCE or FVWM4 isn't > responding correctly .... Bug ? TIA .... > I have been using this since 3.5: set prompt="%B%{\e]2\;%n@%m %l %~%#^g\e]1\;%n@%m^g\r%}%m\:%~%#%b " still works. I use a custom /etc/csh.cshrc file so it is window manager independent. I took a shot at translating this using the man page a couple of years ago. 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HR Manager Research Team From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 20 16:09:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D87B88D; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:09:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x235.google.com (mail-qc0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29E7A3227; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:09:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id x13so7897371qcv.26 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 09:09:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ki2mw30V+fGcVo8XEMAMLTE76pajhtDHSI3T7Dgy+3M=; b=yKGXT7dyU6dYlwWAl+kp0ZTVX+ecSarktcmaq1GddP73ex96xWvMwtImQIO0hcpAPG YqetkE8cOY7Wd02cDBWNVuoS4uESAbAOS2bxLDkScaYCljUCeGuuEk7fqBq5Hs/AtceN oKFIetWBBo7XM5yXZRY7guPeMQvY8ye2oiSnEVY0Xgsp9oY1zKwM2ALIt1JnrecZZ64c GGxBqtpfgemrPUeYvr0q/ckERszQyi8syRYnHVIIOz28k8W1Aa/luU4UQOFx7c6oAQio 6FaflOGI0U+Jp+jwySK6Y2VSCZBESBNfR/3/SYv1aeLeUzO4XdmGvXKGvsCk6d6NV4LJ sQ3Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.36.130 with SMTP id t2mr24677878qad.45.1408550959162; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 09:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Sender: hiren.panchasara@gmail.com Received: by 10.96.170.230 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 09:09:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 09:09:19 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: hzKwrz1jv73fD5lg5Us_DMoxC3Q Message-ID: Subject: Re: FBSD 10.0 USB Memstick Loader hangs on HP EliteBook 2740p From: hiren panchasara To: CeDeROM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:09:20 -0000 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:29 AM, CeDeROM wrote: > Hello :-) > > Loader of the FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE AMD64 hangs on load in random > moments when booting FreeBSD-10.0-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img on HP > EliteBook 2740p. There is no problem on other machines, the problem > does not allow kernel to load and boot, I have tried other USB sticks, > BIOS update does not change anything. I have booted 64bit both Win7 > and Linux from USB drive with success. There is no optical drive, so > the only alternative would be to use pxe install, I will try the > loader and let you know back if this is anything USB related or rather > Loader/Hardware problem.. > > How the loader problem can be traced back? I can enter boot command prompt :-) > > Any hints appreciated :-) I am curious, are you trying legacy bios or uefi? and did you ever have freebsd successfully installed/running on this laptop? Trying to figure out of this is a regression. cheers, Hiren From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 20 16:13:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC339BB8; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x22c.google.com (mail-ob0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73F643316; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id wn1so6456259obc.17 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 09:13:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=8fUlbypsNT1uPH+Ii0zmgrFEIc83ZvGNg5/+BJpZj0A=; b=pCC8DsBS6N4h7Bt5dzCj1f72RPLN1KPCQ1dB5GRl7+cM6kOoyGfPvgFOutzITvZ4M4 CIFds6G22btBNCD67NxDbk7JZ1rBqe56PLRdMvsPpLkALCYADMP808WWJcaQdYP34TqR /yhV57hGXgy43ICm1YECurC5b0XqYaJPVUWYkUuJSHWC6LVx3tFZZb+eX8OekZu9aAee GGxItrXSDK/WyUS7PXfyF/xsCD230feAvcS2Nq5KH2q1Wc5EFcrHqcICRML4nnEX5TG5 XfOZZAsDYtA66HVxlvcesAfD5A681nYdIm3kD2Cz/y6k/Qg11pvH1KRX+Jpm+CKgd7OX gIJQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.68.104 with SMTP id v8mr50403712obt.26.1408551193753; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 09:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.202.75.15 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 09:13:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:13:13 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: EsJl0Rhj_T9tlRn-n-BrY6cr2dU Message-ID: Subject: Re: FBSD 10.0 USB Memstick Loader hangs on HP EliteBook 2740p From: CeDeROM To: hiren panchasara Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:13:15 -0000 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 6:09 PM, hiren panchasara wrote: > I am curious, are you trying legacy bios or uefi? and did you ever > have freebsd successfully installed/running on this laptop? Trying to > figure out of this is a regression. This is my new machine so never FreeBSD on it before, I know Win7 and Kali Linux 64bit works fine. I use Legacy BIOS boot. Should I try UEFI? I will try pxe boot and report back :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 20 17:30:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55B65B30; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-x235.google.com (mail-qg0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D62BC3AF4; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:30:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id z60so4215508qgd.40 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 10:30:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ULXiMuX4K2q2Wqn97VzI+8jOf0ADOLkyW0puu69K5OE=; b=kUr4bpSF+clAc6XKp1NBLXLC9qJqr9wO1duy+T4l2OTppN4dx5dnOG/7Cu4hj+9rUW IgiRczHxu2KmiKcLPCgkcfKbtYjbn3h73/M6jUL25Bt6bGsu/g923n2fHIItEjlKKnwc cs2THr9+elTuiaX+CXjtZjHjOdaUUBq0nljDzpd+7ODgProTzMy63ufI53T3m2H9ZeTE xLgO/I9IQp4fdgG6B1LczuuL0qEHsaHA+84KFr0t/FZzAl/Sks5vCMY5qfAhzVFU5E3r a5W+twQEit633pn6SWX3azOH/XCbrv01h3oCPD+qlA6UfheQCzRxbdy0Su0gPWSRsexr GhGA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.229.135 with SMTP id ji7mr79975259qcb.15.1408555800827; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 10:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Sender: hiren.panchasara@gmail.com Received: by 10.96.170.230 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 10:30:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 10:30:00 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Nv7aI3JkhWcSAsUfUnsWi7wFogs Message-ID: Subject: Re: FBSD 10.0 USB Memstick Loader hangs on HP EliteBook 2740p From: hiren panchasara To: CeDeROM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , freebsd-sysinstall , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:30:02 -0000 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:13 AM, CeDeROM wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 6:09 PM, hiren panchasara wrote: >> I am curious, are you trying legacy bios or uefi? and did you ever >> have freebsd successfully installed/running on this laptop? Trying to >> figure out of this is a regression. > > This is my new machine so never FreeBSD on it before, I know Win7 and > Kali Linux 64bit works fine. I use Legacy BIOS boot. Should I try > UEFI? I will try pxe boot and report back :-) Yeah, just for the hack of it, try UEFI and see. Fwiw, I have a HP folio 9470m laptop that I cannot boot with -CURRENT. In legacy bios, I see loader spinner and screen goes blank, laptop reboots itself. And sometimes it resets itself even before the spinner. In UEFI, I see other failures. More details at https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=192655 cheers, Hiren From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 20 18:19:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1801F21 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:19:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x236.google.com (mail-lb0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44A9435A4 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:19:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f182.google.com with SMTP id z11so7279637lbi.27 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:19:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=i3fKOMJwervZl/QGMwhYDxkHZxqXXrBQaRQFUFX4SXo=; b=bP/Hsi2krDxW9CAMm4AbzIPPrfui7b7BSxP2w6x7xIW3BBB66Q4hs2r22i8ICVXTld Kuwhvhz5v/w1BZQE8jGBj+Sgu4Im7uvx1brs2oJiRRNS6IjcARMxHSeKw5PvYReTS5QV xXlCOBYDQGpVBq0lH2sg5GYMGk1qVZfYLo7NsZ1H8fNKSBz7tArd5YYZiebVL5425F0I Fewq/huPvfyFEg3acMVFyl4zb4b81S81C4wgpuEBhKrN1Jw+FOPzG9kqD7vC23f5g1K7 oGnOsDJcWyNx6CrtKRAgRHn/m+wGmBc23MNb42qgbt3wwGeaS9PIhNUkJJzUDUBx598L 3mQA== X-Received: by 10.152.36.135 with SMTP id q7mr44852582laj.42.1408558781116; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from free10 (pppoe-77-75-14-190.ppp.kmv.ru. [77.75.14.190]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dq2sm38137309lbc.12.2014.08.20.11.19.38 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by free10 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:19:37 +0400 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:19:37 +0400 From: Dmitry Sarkisov To: Gardner Bell Subject: Re: small pc Message-ID: <20140820181937.GC1426@aperturescience.org> Mail-Followup-To: Dmitry Sarkisov , Gardner Bell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p7 amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:19:43 -0000 On 20-08-2014, Wed [11:08:50], Gardner Bell wrote: > Hello, > > I'm looking to replace some of my older machines that I use for dns, > firewall, etc with low power alternatives. So far I've come across > http://www.stealth.com/littlepc_480_fanless_multilan.htm but they seem to > be a bit pricey and packed with more features than I truly need, > > Would anyone have some recommendations? Ideally it will have 2x GigE, COM > port, 1U rack mountable, or a mini-pc form factor. > > Thanks > -- > Gardner Bell Take a look at these router boxes: http://routerboard.com/, one might suit your needs. While there's no FreeBSD inside ;) their RouterOS provides _a lot_ of features for the price. Cheers! -- Dmitry. /---> ------------> \---> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 20 19:14:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5EE2496 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70A013B6C for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-19-29.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.29]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7KJENkU016567 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:14:23 -0500 Message-ID: <53F4F506.6070003@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:20:38 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doug@safeport.com Subject: Re: XFCE oddity .... References: <53F4AF84.4050002@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:14:25 -0000 Interesting .... It does indeed work on the title bar & panel marker, although I can't find most of it in the man page, especially the various control sequences .... On 08/20/14 10:48, doug wrote: > On Wed, 20 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> .... I am running XFCE under FBSD 9.3, w/ xfwm4 window manager, all >> box-stock XFCE. I use rxvt terminals running tcsh for CLI work, >> usually have *many* open at one time. I have the following tcsh alias >> set: >> >> cwdcmd 'echo -n "\033]2;${HOST}:\057$cwd\007\033]1;$cwd:t\007"' >> >> Under my old desktop (FC14, Gnome desktop, rxvt terminals, tcsh), >> this would set the title bar of the window to ':current >> directory', and the panel marker similarly, worked AOK. It is only >> partially working under FBSD/XFCE, however. Whenever I cd from one >> dir to another, nothing happens. Indeed, most of my terminals just >> say 'rxvt' in their title bar & panel marker. However, if I SSH to >> another machine, or to my ISP (They give you shell account on their >> server :-) ), the title bar & panel marker are correctly updated. >> What gives here ? The fact that it works sometimes indicates that my >> setting for the alias is OK, but XFCE or FVWM4 isn't responding >> correctly .... Bug ? TIA .... >> > I have been using this since 3.5: > > set prompt="%B%{\e]2\;%n@%m %l %~%#^g\e]1\;%n@%m^g\r%}%m\:%~%#%b " > > still works. I use a custom /etc/csh.cshrc file so it is window > manager independent. I took a shot at translating this using the man > page a couple of years ago. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 20 21:13:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B429970A for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 21:13:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (mwlucas-2-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:b9c::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA5F43736 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 21:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7KLD8cZ092293; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:13:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id s7KLD8iD092292; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:13:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:13:08 -0400 From: "Michael W. Lucas" To: Anton Sayetsky Subject: Re: geli keyfile not loading at boot Message-ID: <20140820211307.GA92271@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> References: <20140820150557.GA90970@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:13:19 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 21:13:25 -0000 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 06:10:51PM +0300, Anton Sayetsky wrote: > 2014-08-20 18:05 GMT+03:00 Michael W. Lucas : > > Hi, > > > > I have a default FreeBSD 10.0/amd64 install. > > > > I'm trying to make a GELI device attach at boot. I initialized the > > partition with -b, and am prompted at boot. When I try to enter the > > passphrase, I keep getting told that it's incorrect. Once I get into > > multi-user mode and manually attach the device, it attaches just fine. > > > > It seems that GELI isn't finding my key file. > > > > My initial root partition is da0p2. The key is /boot/da1p1.key. The > > GELI partition is da1p1. Here's my loader.conf: > > > > geom_eli_load=YES > > geli_da1p1_keyfile0_load="YES" > > ->>> > > geli_da1p1_keyfile0_type="da0p2:geli_da1p1_keyfile0" > -<<< > This is wrong. Thanks, Anton. This stuff is poorly documented. >From looking at https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-geom/2014-June/005944.html, it looks like this should work, but it doesn't. geli_da1p1key_keyfile0_load="YES" geli_da1p1key_keyfile0_type="da0p2:geli_keyfile0" geli_da1p1key_keyfile0_name="/boot/da1p1.key" boot_verbose=1 Any suggestions, folks? Is there a good explanation out there anywhere? All I've found are PRs and very specific mailing list posts aimed at specific situations. If I can figure out the general case, I'll get it in the man page. Thanks, ==ml -- Michael W. Lucas - mwlucas@michaelwlucas.com, Twitter @mwlauthor http://www.MichaelWLucas.com/, http://blather.MichaelWLucas.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 20 21:49:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85D753D4 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 21:49:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0293A48 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 21:49:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C0033C1D; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:49:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 9D42D39863; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:49:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: John Case Subject: Re: Did /nonexistent go away in FreeBSD 9 ? References: Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:49:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: (John Case's message of "Tue, 19 Aug 2014 20:29:07 +0000 (UTC)") Message-ID: <444mx6x24t.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 21:49:46 -0000 John Case writes: > I point a particular application to a 7.x system using a login with > /nonexistent as the home directory and /sbin/nologin as the shell. > > I copied the line from 'vipw' into a new 9.x system, and now when I > try to connect, the application complains. Rather weak description there... > I also have securelevel=2 ... > > So, did something change with /nonexistent in FreeBSD 9, or does > securelevel=2 screw this up somehow ?? Nothing changed; isn't (for example) "nobody" using a home directory in that form? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 20 21:55:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 091DF591 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 21:55:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50113AEE for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 21:55:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17AF033C49; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:55:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id CE93D39863; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:55:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: XFCE oddity .... References: <53F4AF84.4050002@hiwaay.net> <53F4F506.6070003@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:55:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: <53F4F506.6070003@hiwaay.net> (William A. Mahaffey, III's message of "Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:20:38 -0500") Message-ID: <44zjeyvnas.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 21:55:31 -0000 Don't top-post, please. "William A. Mahaffey III" writes: > > On 08/20/14 10:48, doug wrote: >> set prompt="%B%{\e]2\;%n@%m %l %~%#^g\e]1\;%n@%m^g\r%}%m\:%~%#%b " > > Interesting .... It does indeed work on the title bar & panel marker, > although I can't find most of it in the man page, especially the > various control sequences .... > Most of that would come termcap, no? It has nothing to do with the shell directly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 20 22:02:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2CF5731 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (mwlucas-2-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:b9c::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 589A23BEC for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7KM2KlP092541 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:02:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id s7KM2KpE092540 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:02:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:02:20 -0400 From: "Michael W. Lucas" To: questions Subject: Re: geli keyfile not loading at boot Message-ID: <20140820220220.GA92493@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> References: <20140820150557.GA90970@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> <20140820211307.GA92271@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140820211307.GA92271@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:02:22 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:02:24 -0000 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 05:13:07PM -0400, Michael W. Lucas wrote: > geli_da1p1key_keyfile0_load="YES" > geli_da1p1key_keyfile0_type="da0p2:geli_keyfile0" > geli_da1p1key_keyfile0_name="/boot/da1p1.key" > boot_verbose=1 And, of course, I figured this out right after sending this mail. The _type line must reference the encrypted partition, not the partition the key file is on. This entry seems to mean "the encryption key for partition X is: geli_keyfile_0" -- it's not "here's the location of the keyfile. ==ml -- Michael W. Lucas - mwlucas@michaelwlucas.com, Twitter @mwlauthor http://www.MichaelWLucas.com/, http://blather.MichaelWLucas.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 20 23:28:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDCADD76 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tds-solutions.net (tds-solutions.net [192.99.32.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C799D332A for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tds-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tds-solutions.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2AD63B098 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:20:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tds-solutions.net Received: from tds-solutions.net ([127.0.0.1]) by tds-solutions.net (tds-solutions.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5rIfN1RM6_Lv for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:19:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (24-177-51-95.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com [24.177.51.95]) (Authenticated sender: sorressean) by tds-solutions.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 686023B097 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:19:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <53F52D26.6070600@tysdomain.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:20:06 -0400 From: "Littlefield, Tyler" Reply-To: tyler@tysdomain.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: putting jails on public addresses Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:28:55 -0000 Hello: I'd really like to put a couple of jails on publically accessible IP addresses. I have 5 that my provider has assigned to me. Could anyone possibly shed some light on how to do this? I know of epairs, but I'm not sure exactly how this works: does each interface (a and b) get an address? I presume one would be 192.168.0.8 and the other would be x.x.x.x (where x.x.x.x is the public address)? Which one should i set the gateway on? Thanks a lot for the help, -- Take care, Ty http://tds-solutions.net He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 20 23:34:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31258E4 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-x22d.google.com (mail-oa0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE1EE33E7 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id i7so6961107oag.4 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:34:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1srq5dcgh5uDqoZiFolCXolaQjiX+6rqwgCxGzOGq/k=; b=WzuXLQEdxA4eZZOz+8f7RUvxuK7QdnvJJBOUCtYz+6Pl3XlreIRBLqYv5mEGr5ZajZ p8RGxCu7Iz+wgapJJBlsHHk360Tk0cwBFKcbO9GQ3MdoU7lnX1skEEPRa88gyMxWXElu xWgAeA3HpdntVONJAra6MIZngTNm+cUX88eopm6AlMrah51t9TJb3sl2N3E/YjYvOo4k G9RJDaj44JFJErTOkRfJ9o8XHandPUyYv+4AtXnriM+5O04Ys4ayfPVAlpLgjkMfPEF0 Ve5971pvN5jmIuLhKPKB39uxpOeqj3KDtfEzxvyNa2bEeU1VsN5XTDqAYCCsOzXZAZZy qcTw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.65.135 with SMTP id x7mr51851245oes.45.1408577651390; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:34:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.160.71 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:34:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140820181937.GC1426@aperturescience.org> References: <20140820181937.GC1426@aperturescience.org> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:34:11 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: small pc From: Gardner Bell To: Dmitry Sarkisov , Gardner Bell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:34:13 -0000 Apologies for top posting, but thanks Dmitry for your reply. I have however, decided to go with the http://www.pcengines.ch/apu.htm board. Not too thrilled that it has realtek nics, but I'm sure I'll survive. On 20 August 2014 14:19, Dmitry Sarkisov wrote: > On 20-08-2014, Wed [11:08:50], Gardner Bell wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm looking to replace some of my older machines that I use for dns, > > firewall, etc with low power alternatives. So far I've come across > > http://www.stealth.com/littlepc_480_fanless_multilan.htm but they seem > to > > be a bit pricey and packed with more features than I truly need, > > > > Would anyone have some recommendations? Ideally it will have 2x GigE, COM > > port, 1U rack mountable, or a mini-pc form factor. > > > > Thanks > > -- > > Gardner Bell > > > Take a look at these router boxes: http://routerboard.com/, one might > suit your needs. > While there's no FreeBSD inside ;) their RouterOS provides _a lot_ of > features for the price. > > Cheers! > > > -- > Dmitry. > /---> > ------------> > \---> > > -- Gardner Bell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 21 03:02:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4982CC8A for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 03:02:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tds-solutions.net (tds-solutions.net [192.99.32.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214ED377D for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 03:02:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tds-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tds-solutions.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F913B0A1; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:02:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tds-solutions.net Received: from tds-solutions.net ([127.0.0.1]) by tds-solutions.net (tds-solutions.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u7lwmy757byO; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:01:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (24-177-51-95.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com [24.177.51.95]) (Authenticated sender: sorressean) by tds-solutions.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9DEBC3B099; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:01:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <53F5612F.7070902@tysdomain.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:02:07 -0400 From: "Littlefield, Tyler" Reply-To: tyler@tysdomain.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Gritton , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: putting jails on public addresses References: <53F52D26.6070600@tysdomain.com> <53F55E7D.7030206@gritton.org> In-Reply-To: <53F55E7D.7030206@gritton.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 03:02:13 -0000 On 8/20/2014 10:50 PM, James Gritton wrote: > On 8/20/2014 5:20 PM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: >> Hello: >> I'd really like to put a couple of jails on publically accessible IP >> addresses. I have 5 that my provider has assigned to me. Could anyone >> possibly shed >> some light on how to do this? I know of epairs, but I'm not sure >> exactly how this works: does each interface (a and b) get an address? >> I presume one would >> be 192.168.0.8 and the other would be x.x.x.x (where x.x.x.x is the >> public address)? Which one should i set the gateway on? >> Thanks a lot for the help, > > You shouldn't need to mess with epair for most jails. Just specify > the jails' addresses (ip4.addr=x.x.x.x) in your jail.conf, and be sure > to have an "interface=foo0" global line. The simplest jail setup is > one using publicly available addresses on a single interface, which > sounds like what you have. > Hello: Thanks a lot for the info. I guess I should have been a bit more explicit: I want to be able to assign firewall rules to these separate jails. I don't think I can assign rules based on address but have to have some sort of interface. For example, port 80 will be open on two jails, but one should have rate limiting applied to it. Thanks, > - Jamie -- Take care, Ty http://tds-solutions.net He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 21 03:11:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 260001A9 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 03:11:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from m2.gritton.org (gritton.org [63.246.134.121]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E86AF3928 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 03:11:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: œ(authenticated bits=0) by m2.gritton.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7L3BtmK026517; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:11:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jamie@gritton.org) Message-ID: <53F56375.8000300@gritton.org> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 21:11:49 -0600 From: James Gritton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: putting jails on public addresses References: <53F52D26.6070600@tysdomain.com> <53F55E7D.7030206@gritton.org> <53F5612F.7070902@tysdomain.com> In-Reply-To: <53F5612F.7070902@tysdomain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tyler@tysdomain.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 03:11:57 -0000 On 8/20/2014 9:02 PM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > On 8/20/2014 10:50 PM, James Gritton wrote: >> On 8/20/2014 5:20 PM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: >>> Hello: >>> I'd really like to put a couple of jails on publically accessible IP >>> addresses. I have 5 that my provider has assigned to me. Could >>> anyone possibly shed >>> some light on how to do this? I know of epairs, but I'm not sure >>> exactly how this works: does each interface (a and b) get an >>> address? I presume one would >>> be 192.168.0.8 and the other would be x.x.x.x (where x.x.x.x is the >>> public address)? Which one should i set the gateway on? >>> Thanks a lot for the help, >> >> You shouldn't need to mess with epair for most jails. Just specify >> the jails' addresses (ip4.addr=x.x.x.x) in your jail.conf, and be >> sure to have an "interface=foo0" global line. The simplest jail setup >> is one using publicly available addresses on a single interface, >> which sounds like what you have. >> > Hello: > Thanks a lot for the info. I guess I should have been a bit more > explicit: I want to be able to assign firewall rules to these separate > jails. I don't think I can assign rules based on address but have to > have some sort of interface. For example, port 80 will be open on two > jails, but one should have rate limiting applied to it. > Thanks, Ah yes, that is indeed more complicated :-). I've never done any firewall rules involving interfaces, so I'm out of my depth there. I've had no problems with the simple things like restricting ports on different IP addresses on the same interface, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't have problems with rate limiting. If it does indeed take its own interface, you have to connect the other end to somewhere. The original Vimage work relied a lot on netgraph(4), but it sounds like you should be able to get by with at epair and an if_bridge. Your physical interface would bridged with one side of all the epairs, and the bridge would have the server address and all the jail addresses. Then each jail gets assigned the other half of one epair, and and internal IP address to go with it. All that sounds good in theory, but take it as the advice of someone who hasn't typed a single test command in that area :-). - Jamie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 21 03:16:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E872D2D6 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 03:16:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from m2.gritton.org (gritton.org [63.246.134.121]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B68483998 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 03:16:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: œ(authenticated bits=0) by m2.gritton.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7L2oid1026382; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:50:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jamie@gritton.org) Message-ID: <53F55E7D.7030206@gritton.org> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 20:50:37 -0600 From: James Gritton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: putting jails on public addresses References: <53F52D26.6070600@tysdomain.com> In-Reply-To: <53F52D26.6070600@tysdomain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tyler@tysdomain.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 03:16:21 -0000 On 8/20/2014 5:20 PM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > Hello: > I'd really like to put a couple of jails on publically accessible IP > addresses. I have 5 that my provider has assigned to me. Could anyone > possibly shed > some light on how to do this? I know of epairs, but I'm not sure > exactly how this works: does each interface (a and b) get an address? > I presume one would > be 192.168.0.8 and the other would be x.x.x.x (where x.x.x.x is the > public address)? Which one should i set the gateway on? > Thanks a lot for the help, You shouldn't need to mess with epair for most jails. Just specify the jails' addresses (ip4.addr=x.x.x.x) in your jail.conf, and be sure to have an "interface=foo0" global line. The simplest jail setup is one using publicly available addresses on a single interface, which sounds like what you have. - Jamie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 21 03:48:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4514D1A for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 03:48:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 727CF3E55 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 03:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [92.76.74.156] (helo=michael-think) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XKJM3-0002SN-Sp; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 05:48:03 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "James Gritton" , questions@freebsd.org, "Littlefield, Tyler" Subject: Re: putting jails on public addresses References: <53F52D26.6070600@tysdomain.com> <53F55E7D.7030206@gritton.org> <53F5612F.7070902@tysdomain.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 05:47:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <53F5612F.7070902@tysdomain.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.98.4/19297/Thu Aug 21 03:04:55 2014) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 03:48:13 -0000 On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 05:02:07 +0200, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > On 8/20/2014 10:50 PM, James Gritton wrote: >> On 8/20/2014 5:20 PM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: >>> Hello: >>> I'd really like to put a couple of jails on publically accessible IP >>> addresses. I have 5 that my provider has assigned to me. Could anyone >>> possibly shed >>> some light on how to do this? I know of epairs, but I'm not sure >>> exactly how this works: does each interface (a and b) get an address? >>> I presume one would >>> be 192.168.0.8 and the other would be x.x.x.x (where x.x.x.x is the >>> public address)? Which one should i set the gateway on? >>> Thanks a lot for the help, >> >> You shouldn't need to mess with epair for most jails. Just specify the >> jails' addresses (ip4.addr=x.x.x.x) in your jail.conf, and be sure to >> have an "interface=foo0" global line. The simplest jail setup is one >> using publicly available addresses on a single interface, which sounds >> like what you have. >> > Hello: > Thanks a lot for the info. I guess I should have been a bit more > explicit: I want to be able to assign firewall rules to these separate > jails. I don't think I can assign rules based on address but have to > have some sort of interface. For example, port 80 will be open on two > jails, but one should have rate limiting applied to it. > Thanks, > >> - Jamie > With ipfw, you could do something like: allow ip from any to 80 allow ip from any to 80 limit src-addr 4 reset ip from any to me 80 # catch-all Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 21 07:12:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 230AD30F for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:12:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AEC433FC4 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:12:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s7L7CIfs037646; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 08:12:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <53F59BD2.8010902@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 08:12:18 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Case , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Did /nonexistent go away in FreeBSD 9 ? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:12:29 -0000 On 19/08/2014 21:29, John Case wrote: > > I point a particular application to a 7.x system using a login with > /nonexistent as the home directory and /sbin/nologin as the shell. > > I copied the line from 'vipw' into a new 9.x system, and now when I try > to connect, the application complains. It would help if you told us what the complaint was, and also what the app was, or at least what it's supposed to do. > I also have securelevel=2 ... > > So, did something change with /nonexistent in FreeBSD 9, or does > securelevel=2 screw this up somehow ?? The entire point about /nonexistent is that it is nonexistent. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 21 08:50:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6F58579 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 08:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x22c.google.com (mail-wg0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 676153931 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 08:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id m15so8799228wgh.15 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 01:50:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lyZKaNGqAdmyQ6OCqvNjkkT7tQjQwzr1L8/u42By/Co=; b=xXnmPe3R8akR0ov3Eq5oLfhqjx1ftFidcBd99mgaRxAE2knJW0Cs72MXU22+MXAzQr G9BEPrLCH/WKnDVAYSfIlvdTJoT8Rl7+V5MvfwSFYWDu9+RYH4usLVGagDUXA/yMHdxQ ZgMwx5aygasDsNP/++jfuxEA1Ne8L/6Ipp77Tt15upVscRBtmt9FEK2iJnCqgrzDSJvn aZy8DxwlLTy8aBak01VFgjy5q1j3CJ/EJAS4k653zuBKKjGTlR6OuL1lUyZb4GbPWKZz mTmAS6Sm6hJg5obhOlJlputl1TnTu5Zl1F7spj2CFtz2pBa5flIgajtc3zS0dO8gU0Jk y+DA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.179.197 with SMTP id di5mr2123148wjc.125.1408611020629; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 01:50:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.55.33 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 01:50:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 08:50:20 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Errors building a new kernel this morning (r270260) From: "C. L. Martinez" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 08:50:22 -0000 Hi all, I had updated my /usr/src to r270260 this morning. "make buildworld" works without problem, but when I try to compile a new kernel, fails. Log: :> export_syms awk -f /usr/src/sys/conf/kmod_syms.awk dtnfscl.ko.debug export_syms | xargs -J% objcopy % dtnfscl.ko.debug --- all_subdir_cxgb --- ctfconvert -L VERSION -g cxgb_t3fw.o --- all_subdir_dtrace --- A failure has been detected in another branch of the parallel make make[5]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/dtrace/dtnfscl --- all_subdir_cxgbe --- ctfmerge -L VERSION -g -o t4fw_cfg.ko.debug t4fw_cfg.txt.fwo t4fw_cfg_uwire.txt.fwo t4fw.fw.fwo t4fw_cfg.o --- all_subdir_drm2 --- --- drm_drv.o --- ctfconvert -L VERSION -g drm_drv.o --- all_subdir_cxgbe --- :> export_syms awk -f /usr/src/sys/conf/kmod_syms.awk t4fw_cfg.ko.debug export_syms | xargs -J% objcopy % t4fw_cfg.ko.debug --- all_subdir_dtrace --- *** [_sub.all] Error code 2 make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/dtrace 1 error make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/dtrace --- all_subdir_cxgb --- A failure has been detected in another branch of the parallel make make[5]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/cxgb/cxgb_t3fw --- psopinfo.o --- ctfconvert -L VERSION -g psopinfo.o --- modules-all --- --- all_subdir_em --- --- if_lem.o --- In file included from /usr/src/sys/modules/em/../../dev/e1000/if_lem.c:337: In file included from @/dev/netmap/if_lem_netmap.h:40: @/dev/netmap/netmap_kern.h:1067:39: error: declaration of 'struct nm_ifreq' will not be visible outside of this function [-Werror,-Wvisibility] typedef int (*bdg_config_fn_t)(struct nm_ifreq *); ^ --- all_subdir_dtrace --- *** [all_subdir_dtrace] Error code 2 make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules --- all_subdir_cxgb --- *** [_sub.all] Error code 2 make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/cxgb 1 error make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/cxgb --- all_subdir_cxgbe --- A failure has been detected in another branch of the parallel make make[5]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/cxgbe/t4_firmware --- all_subdir_cxgb --- *** [all_subdir_cxgb] Error code 2 make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules --- all_subdir_cxgbe --- *** [_sub.all] Error code 2 make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/cxgbe 1 error make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/cxgbe *** [all_subdir_cxgbe] Error code 2 make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules --- all_subdir_ed --- ctfconvert -L VERSION -g if_ed_novell.o --- all_subdir_ath --- ctfconvert -L VERSION -g ar9285_btcoex.o --- all_subdir_em --- 1 error generated. *** [if_lem.o] Error code 1 make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/em 2 errors make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/em *** [all_subdir_em] Error code 2 make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules --- all_subdir_dummynet --- ctfconvert -L VERSION -g dn_sched_qfq.o A failure has been detected in another branch of the parallel make make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/dummynet --- all_subdir_drm --- ctfconvert -L VERSION -g drm_irq.o --- all_subdir_ath --- A failure has been detected in another branch of the parallel make make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/ath --- all_subdir_ed --- --- if_ed.o --- ctfconvert -L VERSION -g if_ed.o --- all_subdir_dummynet --- *** [all_subdir_dummynet] Error code 2 make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules --- all_subdir_ath --- *** [all_subdir_ath] Error code 2 make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules --- all_subdir_drm --- A failure has been detected in another branch of the parallel make make[5]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/drm/drm --- all_subdir_ed --- A failure has been detected in another branch of the parallel make make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/ed --- all_subdir_drm --- *** [_sub.all] Error code 2 make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/drm 1 error make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/drm --- all_subdir_ed --- *** [all_subdir_ed] Error code 2 make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules --- all_subdir_drm --- *** [all_subdir_drm] Error code 2 make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules --- all_subdir_drm2 --- --- drm_fb_helper.o --- ctfconvert -L VERSION -g drm_fb_helper.o --- all_subdir_en --- ctfconvert -L VERSION -g if_en_pci.o --- all_subdir_drm2 --- A failure has been detected in another branch of the parallel make make[5]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/drm2/drm2 *** [_sub.all] Error code 2 make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/drm2 1 error make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/drm2 *** [all_subdir_drm2] Error code 2 make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules --- all_subdir_en --- --- midway.o --- ctfconvert -L VERSION -g midway.o A failure has been detected in another branch of the parallel make make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/en *** [all_subdir_en] Error code 2 make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules 10 errors make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules *** [modules-all] Error code 2 make[2]: stopped in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FBSDNSM03 1 error make[2]: stopped in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FBSDNSM03 *** [buildkernel] Error code 2 make[1]: stopped in /usr/src 1 error make[1]: stopped in /usr/src *** [buildkernel] Error code 2 make: stopped in /usr/src 1 error make: stopped in /usr/src Any idea why?? My customized kernel conf file works without problems over four months until today :( Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 21 09:49:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 626A07A6 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 09:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x22d.google.com (mail-wi0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6B593F36 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 09:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f173.google.com with SMTP id f8so8388779wiw.12 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 02:49:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ytbZsH3tLJELsfkdi/j0aJf2wJsvFGUj7mSnc4IjURA=; b=oGy4WPt9S/UGjIKStXsv4iZIkH/qf5eZhEOyykLLe/7ME0CdscBipeccwj6XTF9Tmn TX2e1ceKW4Vj1DJGhmAcxc73PMwicOqe7rSBXUe5nYR/W0D/WIXSKEXCLfJ6+yyOLkNG whpwU6wVo24zX5DUB6pgNFCwr6j7gFav5gFy06D/frO6wqrmhAx/oUSNFBspqZJVBDzn hLnPJV4JtJ3KrdmB50RGI1KGS3EU3/TYazCeyOMsTdPriPulh96t+CJieF9jT2+S2BNt tEilOQ80yfAhIa/37wG86Stmb7DzRdXdQkW2K30qPABR6dnK37lAt8IZjzBAOYk3a1dT t8LQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.73.139 with SMTP id l11mr3511570wiv.30.1408614560166; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 02:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.55.33 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 02:49:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 09:49:20 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Errors building a new kernel this morning (r270260) From: "C. L. Martinez" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 09:49:22 -0000 On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 8:50 AM, C. L. Martinez wrote: > Hi all, > > I had updated my /usr/src to r270260 this morning. "make buildworld" > works without problem, but when I try to compile a new kernel, fails. > Log: > > :> export_syms > awk -f /usr/src/sys/conf/kmod_syms.awk dtnfscl.ko.debug export_syms | > xargs -J% objcopy % dtnfscl.ko.debug > --- all_subdir_cxgb --- > ctfconvert -L VERSION -g cxgb_t3fw.o > --- all_subdir_dtrace --- > A failure has been detected in another branch of the parallel make > > make[5]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/dtrace/dtnfscl > --- all_subdir_cxgbe --- > ctfmerge -L VERSION -g -o t4fw_cfg.ko.debug t4fw_cfg.txt.fwo > t4fw_cfg_uwire.txt.fwo t4fw.fw.fwo t4fw_cfg.o > --- all_subdir_drm2 --- > --- drm_drv.o --- > ctfconvert -L VERSION -g drm_drv.o > --- all_subdir_cxgbe --- > :> export_syms > awk -f /usr/src/sys/conf/kmod_syms.awk t4fw_cfg.ko.debug export_syms > | xargs -J% objcopy % t4fw_cfg.ko.debug > --- all_subdir_dtrace --- > *** [_sub.all] Error code 2 > > make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/dtrace > 1 error > > make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/dtrace > --- all_subdir_cxgb --- > A failure has been detected in another branch of the parallel make > > make[5]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/cxgb/cxgb_t3fw > --- psopinfo.o --- > ctfconvert -L VERSION -g psopinfo.o > --- modules-all --- > --- all_subdir_em --- > --- if_lem.o --- > In file included from /usr/src/sys/modules/em/../../dev/e1000/if_lem.c:337: > In file included from @/dev/netmap/if_lem_netmap.h:40: > @/dev/netmap/netmap_kern.h:1067:39: error: declaration of 'struct > nm_ifreq' will not be visible outside of this function > [-Werror,-Wvisibility] > typedef int (*bdg_config_fn_t)(struct nm_ifreq *); > ^ > --- all_subdir_dtrace --- > *** [all_subdir_dtrace] Error code 2 > > make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules > --- all_subdir_cxgb --- > *** [_sub.all] Error code 2 > > make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/cxgb > 1 error > > make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/cxgb > --- all_subdir_cxgbe --- > A failure has been detected in another branch of the parallel make > > make[5]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/cxgbe/t4_firmware > --- all_subdir_cxgb --- > *** [all_subdir_cxgb] Error code 2 > > make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules > --- all_subdir_cxgbe --- > *** [_sub.all] Error code 2 > > make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/cxgbe > 1 error > > make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/cxgbe > *** [all_subdir_cxgbe] Error code 2 > > make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules > --- all_subdir_ed --- > ctfconvert -L VERSION -g if_ed_novell.o > --- all_subdir_ath --- > ctfconvert -L VERSION -g ar9285_btcoex.o > --- all_subdir_em --- > 1 error generated. > *** [if_lem.o] Error code 1 > > make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/em > 2 errors > > make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/em > *** [all_subdir_em] Error code 2 > > make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules > --- all_subdir_dummynet --- > ctfconvert -L VERSION -g dn_sched_qfq.o > A failure has been detected in another branch of the parallel make > > make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/dummynet > --- all_subdir_drm --- > ctfconvert -L VERSION -g drm_irq.o > --- all_subdir_ath --- > A failure has been detected in another branch of the parallel make > > make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/ath > --- all_subdir_ed --- > --- if_ed.o --- > ctfconvert -L VERSION -g if_ed.o > --- all_subdir_dummynet --- > *** [all_subdir_dummynet] Error code 2 > > make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules > --- all_subdir_ath --- > *** [all_subdir_ath] Error code 2 > > make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules > --- all_subdir_drm --- > A failure has been detected in another branch of the parallel make > > make[5]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/drm/drm > --- all_subdir_ed --- > A failure has been detected in another branch of the parallel make > > make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/ed > --- all_subdir_drm --- > *** [_sub.all] Error code 2 > > make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/drm > 1 error > > make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/drm > --- all_subdir_ed --- > *** [all_subdir_ed] Error code 2 > > make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules > --- all_subdir_drm --- > *** [all_subdir_drm] Error code 2 > > make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules > --- all_subdir_drm2 --- > --- drm_fb_helper.o --- > ctfconvert -L VERSION -g drm_fb_helper.o > --- all_subdir_en --- > ctfconvert -L VERSION -g if_en_pci.o > --- all_subdir_drm2 --- > A failure has been detected in another branch of the parallel make > > make[5]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/drm2/drm2 > *** [_sub.all] Error code 2 > > make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/drm2 > 1 error > > make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/drm2 > *** [all_subdir_drm2] Error code 2 > > make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules > --- all_subdir_en --- > --- midway.o --- > ctfconvert -L VERSION -g midway.o > A failure has been detected in another branch of the parallel make > > make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/en > *** [all_subdir_en] Error code 2 > > make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules > 10 errors > > make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules > *** [modules-all] Error code 2 > > make[2]: stopped in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FBSDNSM03 > 1 error > > make[2]: stopped in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FBSDNSM03 > *** [buildkernel] Error code 2 > > make[1]: stopped in /usr/src > 1 error > > make[1]: stopped in /usr/src > *** [buildkernel] Error code 2 > > make: stopped in /usr/src > 1 error > > make: stopped in /usr/src > > Any idea why?? My customized kernel conf file works without problems > over four months until today :( > > Thanks. Oops. Sorry, sended to the wrong list. Forget it. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 21 10:08:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F1EAC7E for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 10:08:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F29F1312B for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 10:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:bennett@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.15]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s7LA7Yd6026160 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Thu, 21 Aug 2014 10:07:34 GMT Received: (from bennett@localhost) by sdf.org (8.14.8/8.12.8/Submit) id s7LA7YGd002430; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 05:07:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201408211007.s7LA7YGd002430@sdf.org> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 05:07:34 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, paul@kraus-haus.org Subject: Re: some ZFS questions References: <201408070816.s778G9ug015988@sdf.org> <40AF5B49-80AF-4FE2-BA14-BFF86164EAA8@kraus-haus.org> In-Reply-To: <40AF5B49-80AF-4FE2-BA14-BFF86164EAA8@kraus-haus.org> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 10:08:14 -0000 Paul Kraus wrote: > On Aug 7, 2014, at 4:16, Scott Bennett wrote: > > > If two pools use different partitions on a drive and both pools are > > rebuilding those partitions at the same time, then how could ZFS *not* > > be hammering the drive? The access arm would be doing almost nothing but > > endless series of long seeks back and forth between the two partitions > > involved. > > How is this different from real production use with, for example, a large database? Even with a single vdev per physical drive you generate LOTS of RANDOM I/O during a resilver. Remember that a ZFS resilver is NOT a like other RAID resync operations. It is NOT a sequential copy of existing data. It is a functionally a reply of all the data written to the zpool as it walks the UberBlock. The major difference between a resilver and a scrub is that the resilver is expecting to be writing data to one (or more) vdevs, while the scrub is mainly a read operation (still generating LOTS of random I/O) looking for errors in the read data (and correcting such when found). I wasn't thinking in terms of a large data base, but rather in terms of my particular usage. What I need all this space for is primarily archival storage, so it will not be heavily accessed under normal circumstances, at least not once the initial, mass loading has been done. Speed is not expected to be all that important on a day-to-day basis, but integrity of the data will be. Some of the archives will be encrypted. About three times as much space as the encrypted portion is expected to be used for unencrypted data. In the event of a drive being replaced, what I wish to avoid would be to have two rebuilding operations going on simultaneously on the same set of component drives. If I can combine the encrypted and unencrypted data into a single pool in ZFS, then that eliminates the problem. > > > When you're talking about hundreds of gigabytes to be written > > to each partition, it could take months or even years to complete, during > > which time something else is almost certain to fail and halt the rebuilds. > > In my experience it is not the amount of data to be re-written, but the amount of writes that created the data. For example, a zpool that is mostly write once (a mead library, for example, where each CD is written once, never changed, and read lots) will resilver much faster than a zpool with lots of small random writes and lots of deletions (like a busy database). See my blog post here: http://pk1048.com/zfs-resilver-observations/ for the most recent resilver I had to do on my home server. I needed to scan 2.84TB of data to rewrite 580GB, it took just under 17 hours. I'll take a look at that article once I have X11 working again. Thanks for the URL. That recovery time looks reasonable and reassures me quite a bit. > > If I had two (or more) vdevs on each device (and I *have* done that when I needed to), I would have issued the first zpool replace command, waited for it to complete and then issued the other. If I had more than one drive fail, I would have handled the replacement of BOTH drives on one zpool first and then moved on to the second. This is NOT because I want to be nice and easy on my drives :-), it is simply because I expect that running the two operations in parallel will be slower than running them in series. For the major reason that large seeks are slower than short seeks. My concern was over a slightly different possible case, namely, a hard failure of a component drive (e.g., makes ugly noises, doesn't spin, and/or doesn't show up as a device recognized as such by the OS). In that case, either one has to physically connect a replacement device or a spare is already on-line. A spare would automatically be grabbed by a pool for reconstruction, so I wanted to know whether situation under discussion would result in automatically initiated rebuilds of both pools at once. > > Also note from the data in my blog entry that the only drive being pushed close to it?s limits is the new replaced drive that is handling the writes. The read drives are not being pushed that hard. YMMV as this is a 5 drive RAIDz2 and for the case of a 2-way mirror the read drive and write drive will be more closely loaded. FWIW, I'm now hoping to build a 6-drive, raidz2 pool for my archival storage. > > > That looks good. What happens if a "zpool replace failingdrive newdrive" > > is running when the failingdrive actually fails completely? > > A zpool replace is not a simple copy from the failing device to the new one, it is a rebuild of the data on the new device, so if the device fails completely it just keeps rebuilding. The example in my blog was of a drive that just went offline with no warning. I put the new drive in the same physical slot (I did not have any open slots) and issued the resilver command. Okay. However, now you bring up another possible pitfall. Are ZFS's drives address- or name-dependent? All of the drives I expect to use will be external drives. At least four of the six will be connected via USB 3.0. The other two may be connected via USB 3.0, Firewire 400, or eSATA. In any case, their device names in /dev will most likely change from one boot to another. > > Note that having the FreeBSD device drive echo the Vendor info, including drive P/N and S/N to the system log is a HUGE help to replacing bad drives. I would imagine so. > > >> memory pressure more gracefully, but it's not committed yet. I highly recommend > >> moving to 64-bit as soon as possible. > > > > I intend to do so, but "as soon as possible" will be after all this > > disk trouble and disk reconfiguration have been resolved. It will be done > > via an in-place upgrade from source, so I need to have a place to run > > buildworld and build kernel. > > So the real world intrudes on perfection yet again :-) We do what we have to in order to get the job done, but make sure to understand the limitations and compromises you are making along the way. > > > Before doing an installkernel and installworld, > > I need also to have a place to run full backups. I have not had a place to > > store new backups for the last three months, which is making me more unhappy > > by the day. I really have to get the disk work *done* before I can move > > forward on anything else, which is why I'm trying to find out whether I can > > actually use ZFS raidzN in that cause while still on i386. > > Yes, you can. I have used ZFS on 32-bit systems (OK, they were really 32-bit VMs, but I was still running ZFS there, still am today and it has saved my butt at least once already). > Okay, that's great. I'll continue with my plans in that case. > > Performance > > will not be an issue that I can see until later if ever. > > I have run ZFS on systems with as little as 1GB total RAM, just do NOT expect stellar (or even good) performance. Keep a close watch on the ARC size (FreeBSD 10 makes this easy with the additional status line in top for the ZFS ARC and L2ARC). You can also use arcstat.pl (get the FreeBSD version here https://code.google.com/p/jhell/downloads/detail?name=arcstat.pl )to track ARC usage over time. On my most critical production server I leave it running with a 60 second sample so if something goes south I can see what happened just before. I'll give that a shot. > > Tune vfs.zfs.arc_max in /boot/loader.conf That looks like a huge help. While initially loading a file system or zvol, would there be any advantage to setting primarycache to "metadata", as opposed to leaving it set to the default value of "all"? > > If I had less than 4GB of RAM I would limit the ARC to 1/2 RAM, unless this were solely a fileserver, then I would watch how much memory I needed outside ZFS and set the ARC to slightly less than that. Take a look at the recommendations here https://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSTuningGuide for low RAM situations. Will do. Hmm...I see again the recommendation to increase KVA_PAGES from 260 to 512. I worry about that because the i386 kernel says at boot that it ignores all real memory above ~2.9 GB. A bit farther along, during the early messages preserved and available via dmesg(1), it says, real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB) avail memory = 3132100608 (2987 MB) > > > I just need to > > know whether I can use it at all with my presently installed OS or will > > instead have to use gvinum(8) raid5 and hope for minimal data corruption. > > (At least only one .eli device would be needed in that case, not the M+N > > .eli devices that would be required for a raidzN pool.) Unfortunately, > > ideal conditions for ZFS are not an available option for now. > > I am a big believer in ZFS, so I think the short term disadvantages are outweighed by the ease of migration and the long term advantages. So I would go the ZFS route. > Yes, it does appear that way to me, too, provided I can actually get there from here. Scott Bennett, Comm. 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John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 21 10:34:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21CCD674 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 10:34:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E45A8344F for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 10:34:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:bennett@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.15]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s7LAXWqE006303 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Thu, 21 Aug 2014 10:33:33 GMT Received: (from bennett@localhost) by sdf.org (8.14.8/8.12.8/Submit) id s7LAXWbN006985; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 05:33:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201408211033.s7LAXWbN006985@sdf.org> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 05:33:32 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, paul@kraus-haus.org Subject: Re: some ZFS questions References: <201408070816.s778G9ug015988@sdf.org> <53E3A836.9080904@my.hennepintech.edu> <201408080706.s78765xs022311@sdf.org> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 10:34:06 -0000 Paul Kraus wrote: > On Aug 8, 2014, at 3:06, Scott Bennett wrote: > > > Well, I need space for encrypted file systems and for unencrypted file > > systems at a roughly 1:3 ratio. I have four 2 TB drives for the purpose > > already, but apparently need at least two more. If zvol+geli+UFS is not the > > way and using multiple slices/partitions is not the way either, then how > > should I set it up? > > How much data do you need to store? Initially, probably about 1.4 - 1.5 TB. The rest would be space for continuing to build the archives. > > With four 2TB drives I would setup either a 2x2 mirror (if I needed random I/O performance) or a 4 drive RAIDz2 if I needed reliability (the RAIDz2 configuration has a substantially higher MTTDL than a 2-way mirror). I'm now aiming for six drives in a raidz2. > > How much does the geli encryption cost in terms of space and speed? Is there a strong reason to not encrypt ALL the data? It can be in different zfs datasets (the ZFS term for a filesystem). In fact, I am NOT a fan of using the base dataset that is created with every zpool; I always create addition zfs datasets below the root of the zpool. Copying a file from one .eli partition to another can easily run up to 25% on each of two cores of a Q6600. I didn't realize that there would be a "base data set"; I thought that one had to create at least one file system or zvol in a pool in order to use the space at all. > > Note that part of the reason it is not recommended to create more than one vdev per physical device is that load on one zpool can then effect the performance of the other. It also means that you cannot readily predict the performance of *either* as they will interact with each other. Neither of the above may apply to you, but knowing *why* can help you choose to ignore a recommendation :-) > Again, this will be long-term, archival storage, so demand should be quite low nearly all of the time. > > > > I see. I had gathered from the zpool(8) man page's two forms of the > > "replace" subcommand that the form shown above should be used if the failing > > disk were still somewhat usable, but that the other form should be used if > > the failing disk were already a failed disk. I figured from that that ZFS > > would try to get whatever it could from the failing disk and only recalculate > > from the rest for blocks that couldn't be read intact from the failing disk. > > If that is not the case, then why bother to have two forms of the "replace" > > subcommand? Wouldn't it just be simpler to unplug the failing drive, plug > > in the new drive, and then use the other form of the "replace" subcommand, > > in which case that would be the *only* form of the subcommand? > > I suspect that is legacy usage. The behavior of resilver (and scrub) operations changed a fair bit in the first couple years of ZFS?s use in the real world. One of the HUGE advantages of the OpenSolaris project was the very fast feedback from the field directly to the developers. You still see that today in the OpenZFS project. While I am not a developer, I do subscribe to the ZFS-developer mailing list to read what is begin worked on and why. > > > In any case, that is why I was asking what would happen in the > > mid-rebuild failure situation. If both subcommands are effectively identical, > > then I guess it shouldn't be a big problem. > > IIRC, at some point the replace operation (resilver) was modified to use a ?failing? device to speed the process if it were still available. You still need to read the data and compare to the checksum, but it can be faster if you have the bad drive for some of the data. But my memory here may also be faulty, this is a good question to ask over on the ZFS list. Okay. > > > How does one set a limit? Is there an undocumented sysctl variable > > for it? > > $ sysctl -a | grep vfs.zfs > > to find all the zfs handles (not all may be tunable) Are they all documented somewhere? > > Set them in /boot/loader.conf > > vfs.zfs.arc_max=?nnnM? is what you want :-) Thanks. Already noted elsewhere, too. > > If /boot/loader.conf does not exist, create it, same format as /boot/defaults/loader.conf (but do not change things there, they may be overwritten by OS updates/upgrades). It already has many settings in it. > > > However, no one seems to have tackled my original question 4) regarding > > "options KVA_PAGES=n". Care to take a stab at it? > > See the writeup at https://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSTuningGuide > > I have not needed to make these tunings, so I cannot confirm them, but they have been out there for long enough that I suspect if they were wrong (or bad) they would have been corrected or removed. > > > If ZFS has no way to prevent thrashing in that situation, then that is > > a serious design deficiency in ZFS. > > Before you start making claims about ?design deficiencies? in ZFS I suggest you take a good hard look at the actual design and the criteria it was designed to fulfill. ZFS was NOT designed to be easy on drives. Nor was it designed to be easy on any of the other hardware (CPU or RAM). It WAS designed to be as fault tolerant as any physical system can be. It WAS designed to be incredibly scalable. It WAS designed to be very portable. It was NOT designed to be cheap. > > > Does that then leave me with just the zvol+geli+UFS way to proceed? > > I mean, I would love to be wealthy enough to throw thrice as many drives > > into this setup, but I'm not. I can get by with using a single set of drives > > for the two purposes that need protection against device failure and silent > > data corruption and then finding a smaller, cheaper drive or two for the > > remaining purposes, but devoting a whole set of drives to each purpose is > > not an option. If ZFS really needs to be used that way, then that is another > > serious design flaw, > > You seem to be annoyed that ZFS was not designed for your specific requirements. I would not say that ZFS has a ?serious design flaw? simply because it was designed for the exact configuration you need. What you need is the Oracle implementation of encryption under ZFS, which you can get by paying for it. Not at all. I was commenting about something that would, in fact, be a design flaw for any type of device- and space-management system if it were the case. However, we have already established elsewhere since the time that I posted that comment that the limitation does not, in fact, exist, so it's a non-issue anyway. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at sdf.org *xor* bennett at freeshell.org * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. 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If I had more than = one drive fail, I would have handled the replacement of BOTH drives on = one zpool first and then moved on to the second. This is NOT because I = want to be nice and easy on my drives :-), it is simply because I expect = that running the two operations in parallel will be slower than running = them in series. For the major reason that large seeks are slower than = short seeks. >=20 > My concern was over a slightly different possible case, namely, a = hard > failure of a component drive (e.g., makes ugly noises, doesn't spin, = and/or > doesn't show up as a device recognized as such by the OS). In that = case, > either one has to physically connect a replacement device or a spare = is > already on-line. A spare would automatically be grabbed by a pool for > reconstruction, so I wanted to know whether situation under discussion = would > result in automatically initiated rebuilds of both pools at once. If the hot spare devices are listed in each zpool, then yes, they would = come online as the zpools have a device fail. But =85 it is possible to = have one zpool with a failed vdev and the other not. It depends on the = device=92s failure mode. Bad blocks can cause ZFS to mark a vdev bad and = need replacement while a vdev also on that physical device may not have = bad blocks. In the case of a complete failure both zpools would start = resilvering *if* the hot spares were listed in both. The way around this = would be to have the spare device ready but NOT list it in the lower = priority zpool. After the first resilver completes manually do the zpool = replace on the second. >> A zpool replace is not a simple copy from the failing device to the = new one, it is a rebuild of the data on the new device, so if the device = fails completely it just keeps rebuilding. The example in my blog was of = a drive that just went offline with no warning. I put the new drive in = the same physical slot (I did not have any open slots) and issued the = resilver command. >=20 > Okay. However, now you bring up another possible pitfall. Are = ZFS's > drives address- or name-dependent? All of the drives I expect to use = will be > external drives. At least four of the six will be connected via USB = 3.0. The > other two may be connected via USB 3.0, Firewire 400, or eSATA. In = any case, > their device names in /dev will most likely change from one boot to = another. ZFS uses the header written to the device to identify it. Note that this = was not always the case and *if* you have a zfs cache file you *may* run = into device renaming issues. I have not seen any, but I am also = particularly paranoid about not moving devices around before exporting = them. I have seen too many stories of lost zpools due to this many years = ago on the ZFS list. >> Tune vfs.zfs.arc_max in /boot/loader.conf >=20 > That looks like a huge help. While initially loading a file = system > or zvol, would there be any advantage to setting primarycache to = "metadata", > as opposed to leaving it set to the default value of "all=94? I do not know, but I=92m sure the folks on the ZFS list who know much = more than I do will have opinions :-) >> If I had less than 4GB of RAM I would limit the ARC to 1/2 RAM, = unless this were solely a fileserver, then I would watch how much memory = I needed outside ZFS and set the ARC to slightly less than that. Take a = look at the recommendations here = https://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSTuningGuidefor low RAM situations. >=20 > Will do. Hmm...I see again the recommendation to increase = KVA_PAGES > from 260 to 512. I worry about that because the i386 kernel says at = boot > that it ignores all real memory above ~2.9 GB. A bit farther along, = during > the early messages preserved and available via dmesg(1), it says, >=20 > real memory =3D 4294967296 (4096 MB) > avail memory =3D 3132100608 (2987 MB) On the FreeBSD VM I am running with only 1 GB memory I did not do any = tuning and ZFS seems to be working fine. It is a mail store, but not a = very large one (only about 130 GB of email). Performance is not a = consideration on this VM, it is archival. -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 21 14:32:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62D90CAF for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 14:32:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-f181.google.com (mail-qc0-f181.google.com [209.85.216.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DF023D2D for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 14:32:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id x13so9234303qcv.26 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:32:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=GmgYDClIEfuVzabtWQIYMqU+S0xtbIaJphFo6tSFz1U=; b=hP6Lw0Cuh5m88QCvWjlL0bqKYMPzKwYQR+gDWRO9FoxtLBz/nNMQAjEhlQ3mbbOkWo kxNaafo7oulB/ZTJmAAWvV2RI3ZLH/D6nVy6G16kPcCv/9rIM4AcDB6E00ULhP8+W77Y BNkuYHZjgNsuLYcAlHkjvZmT+VIUTq5sIyko2xvNZaKnfFV4pKkUvS3mc/6bIkE6claN k13nT3464M4GBzQQ/NHtK+6ZDO+TMdy+9ZyEXmK6Xh9SbTnY2760Njy06T8WGLDLicX5 hyjXROOI37BV/3pHAwCLCVtoSq89eHd21CHmC+9Guykan9UtNClqs7VosCaok1APfHTa FMKg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmW2COVxYAKnOxYG+T093iaNKScLZVMjb+alOF1pobhSOEb+AxmVWLBfP83gMaXuTz2h8bx X-Received: by 10.140.30.66 with SMTP id c60mr25510899qgc.30.1408631176840; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.65] ([96.236.21.80]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b15sm46753853qac.36.2014.08.21.07.26.16 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: some ZFS questions Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <201408211033.s7LAXWbN006985@sdf.org> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 10:26:15 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <201408070816.s778G9ug015988@sdf.org> <53E3A836.9080904@my.hennepintech.edu> <201408080706.s78765xs022311@sdf.org> <201408211033.s7LAXWbN006985@sdf.org> To: Scott Bennett X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 14:32:24 -0000 On Aug 21, 2014, at 6:33, Scott Bennett wrote: > Paul Kraus wrote: >> How much does the geli encryption cost in terms of space and speed? = Is there a strong reason to not encrypt ALL the data? It can be in = different zfs datasets (the ZFS term for a filesystem). In fact, I am = NOT a fan of using the base dataset that is created with every zpool; I = always create addition zfs datasets below the root of the zpool. >=20 > Copying a file from one .eli partition to another can easily run = up > to 25% on each of two cores of a Q6600. > I didn't realize that there would be a "base data set"; I thought = that > one had to create at least one file system or zvol in a pool in order = to > use the space at all. When you create a zpool you get both the zpool and a zfs dataset of the = same name. You can use this dataset, but if I am going to be creating = *any* other datasets in this zpool I do not. I only use hierarchical = datasets in very specific ways as there are rules on inheritance and = mount points. For example: zpool create a gets you a mounted on /a zfs create a/b then gets you a mounted on /a=20 a/b mounted on /a/b You can then set the mount point to anything you wish, but unless you = explicitly set it on a/b, b will always be mounted just under a. I do the following: zpool create m m mounted on /m zfs set mountpoint=3Dnone m m not mounted zfs create m/n=20 m not mounted m/n not mounted zfs set mounptpoint=3D/foo m/n m not mounted m/n mounted on /foo >>> How does one set a limit? Is there an undocumented sysctl = variable >>> for it? >>=20 >> $ sysctl -a | grep vfs.zfs >>=20 >> to find all the zfs handles (not all may be tunable) >=20 > Are they all documented somewhere? I have not found documentation for them, but I also have not looked = through the source code. I am an admin and not a developer, so looking = through the source would be of limited use for me. I expect that many of = them map to the similar kernel parameters under Illumos (Solaris) and = most of those that you might want to change are documented (but I do not = recall where right now). -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 21 14:55:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1268B4BA for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 14:55:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S2.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s2.hotmail.com [65.55.111.141]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B15D13FAA for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 14:55:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU437-SMTP13 ([65.55.111.135]) by BLU004-OMC4S2.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:54:22 -0700 X-TMN: [ptnoQff3OCqFsR/ei+RN6NSJ9JYJ2DCz] X-Originating-Email: [f.toscan@hotmail.it] Message-ID: Received: from pillow.thwn ([79.51.50.183]) by BLU437-SMTP13.smtp.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(8.0.9200.16384); Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:54:20 -0700 Received: from localhost (1001@localhost [local]); by localhost (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id 10df3fb4; for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 14:54:06 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: OpenSMTPD enqueuer (Demoostik) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 14:54:05 +0200 From: Francesco Toscan To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: geli keyfile not loading at boot Mail-Followup-To: Francesco Toscan , questions@freebsd.org References: <20140820150557.GA90970@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140820150557.GA90970@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Aug 2014 14:54:20.0702 (UTC) FILETIME=[CA0E13E0:01CFBD4F] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 14:55:30 -0000 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:05:57AM -0400, Michael W. Lucas wrote: > Hi, > > I have a default FreeBSD 10.0/amd64 install. > > I'm trying to make a GELI device attach at boot. I initialized the > partition with -b, and am prompted at boot. When I try to enter the Hi, I have a slightly different setup: a keyfile-only based geli partition sitting on gmirror, loading keyfile from external usb device on boot. I run FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE/amd64. > My initial root partition is da0p2. The key is /boot/da1p1.key. The > GELI partition is da1p1. Here's my loader.conf: > > geom_eli_load=YES > geli_da1p1_keyfile0_load="YES" > geli_da1p1_keyfile0_type="da0p2:geli_da1p1_keyfile0" > geli_da1p1_keyfile0_name="/boot/da1p1.key" > kern.geom.eli.debug=3 Hit and miss here, but I think geli_da1p1_keyfile0_type="da0p2:geli_da1p1_keyfile0 should be: geli_da1p1_keyfile0_type="da1p1:geli_keyfile0 as geli_$dev_keyfile0_type="$dev:geli_keyfile0. $dev should read "the whole path to the device to crypt minus /dev". Here's my loader.conf, system is running 9.1-RELEASE: # GEOM MIRROR is /dev/mirror/system # GELI partition is /dev/mirror/system.eli # / is in /dev/mirror/system.elip1 # disk0 is BIOS' idea of USB device geom_mirror_load="YES" geom_eli_load="YES" vfs.root.mountfrom="ufs:/dev/mirror/system.elip1" geli_mirror_system_keyfile0_load="YES" geli_mirror_system_keyfile0_type="mirror/system:geli_keyfile0" geli_mirror_system_keyfile0_name="disk0:/server.key" I hope this could be useful. -- f. "Corruptissima re publica, plurimae leges" -- Publius Cornelius Tacitus From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 21 19:28:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B18E81F for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E28F63CBA for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:28:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-156.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.156]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7LJSVaw013025 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 14:28:31 -0500 Message-ID: <53F649D6.5020402@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 14:34:46 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Is there any way to set screensaver-delay .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:28:40 -0000 .... & monitor-sleep-delay (times when these features kick in) in XFCE ? I haven't found it yet :-/ .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 21 19:32:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65B63CF9 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7FA3D72 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:32:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3hfG3m1ZRdz1Tl for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 15:23:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 15:23:15 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: small pc Message-ID: <079AABB22A45642D3A0FCD90@[192.168.1.50]> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:32:14 -0000 --As of August 20, 2014 11:08:50 AM -0400, Gardner Bell is alleged to have said: > I'm looking to replace some of my older machines that I use for dns, > firewall, etc with low power alternatives. So far I've come across > http://www.stealth.com/littlepc_480_fanless_multilan.htm but they seem to > be a bit pricey and packed with more features than I truly need, > > Would anyone have some recommendations? Ideally it will have 2x GigE, COM > port, 1U rack mountable, or a mini-pc form factor. --As for the rest, it is mine. I was going to recommend you take a look at as well; I just retired a soekris box that had been doing the above running OpenBSD for ~10 years. Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. 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Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: ImageMagick install issue .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:38:12 -0000 .... I just tried to install the ImageMagick suite & I got the following: [root@kabini1, /etc, 2:38:57pm] 508 % pkg install ImageMagick ImageMagick-nox11 Updating repository catalogue FreeBSD repository is up-to-date All repositories are up-to-date The following 18 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): New packages to be INSTALLED: ImageMagick: 6.8.9.4_1,1 webp: 0.4.1 giflib-nox11: 4.2.3_3 librsvg2: 2.36.4_2 gtk-engines2: 2.20.2_2 libcroco: 0.6.8_2 ghostscript9: 9.06_7 libpaper: 1.1.24_2 cups-image: 1.7.3_1 svgalib: 1.4.3_7 jbig2dec: 0.11_2 fftw3: 3.3.3_1 openjpeg: 2.1.0 libwmf: 0.2.8.4_11 libwmf-nox11: 0.2.8.4_11 liblqr-1: 0.4.1_7 libfpx: 1.3.1.4 ImageMagick-nox11: 6.8.9.4_1,1 The process will require 113 MB more space 28 MB to be downloaded Proceed with this action [y/N]: y Fetching ImageMagick-6.8.9.4_1,1.txz: 100% of 6 MB Fetching webp-0.4.1.txz: 100% of 276 kB Fetching giflib-nox11-4.2.3_3.txz: 100% of 112 kB Fetching librsvg2-2.36.4_2.txz: 100% of 174 kB Fetching gtk-engines2-2.20.2_2.txz: 100% of 219 kB Fetching libcroco-0.6.8_2.txz: 100% of 199 kB Fetching ghostscript9-9.06_7.txz: 100% of 10 MB Fetching libpaper-1.1.24_2.txz: 100% of 19 kB Fetching cups-image-1.7.3_1.txz: 100% of 64 kB Fetching svgalib-1.4.3_7.txz: 100% of 525 kB Fetching jbig2dec-0.11_2.txz: 100% of 63 kB Fetching fftw3-3.3.3_1.txz: 100% of 738 kB Fetching openjpeg-2.1.0.txz: 100% of 151 kB Fetching libwmf-0.2.8.4_11.txz: 100% of 996 kB Fetching libwmf-nox11-0.2.8.4_11.txz: 100% of 986 kB Fetching liblqr-1-0.4.1_7.txz: 100% of 43 kB Fetching libfpx-1.3.1.4.txz: 100% of 334 kB Fetching ImageMagick-nox11-6.8.9.4_1,1.txz: 100% of 6 MB Checking integrity... done (2 conflicting) pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver: cannot install package ImageMagick~graphics/ImageMagick, remove it from request [Y/n]: cannot install package ImageMagick-nox11~graphics/ImageMagick-nox11, remove it from request [Y/n]: Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) Conflicts with the existing packages have been found. One more solver iteration is needed to resolve them. [root@kabini1, /etc, 2:41:40pm] 509 % .... Pilot error ? pkg bug ? Something else ? TIA for any clues .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 21 19:45:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFA598E2 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 925433EF4 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8C7C3CD50; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:45:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7LJjNBO002072; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:45:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:45:23 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Is there any way to set screensaver-delay .... Message-Id: <20140821214523.4e97ba99.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53F649D6.5020402@hiwaay.net> References: <53F649D6.5020402@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:45:34 -0000 On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 14:34:46 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > .... & monitor-sleep-delay (times when these features kick in) in XFCE ? > I haven't found it yet :-/ .... I think you need to install xscreensaver separately, but it will work fine with Xfce. There's even a GUI setup included. Personally, I'm using xlock (port: xlockmore) which is activated by the big fat friendly "Help" key on the top left of my Sun keyboard. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 21 20:27:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F4CD240 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B45C63376 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:27:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-156.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.156]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7LKR7Di027955 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 21 Aug 2014 15:27:08 -0500 Message-ID: <53F65792.5010802@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 15:33:22 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Is there any way to set screensaver-delay .... References: <53F649D6.5020402@hiwaay.net> <20140821214523.4e97ba99.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140821214523.4e97ba99.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:27:13 -0000 *Booooyah* !!!! Thx :-) .... On 08/21/14 14:45, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 14:34:46 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> .... & monitor-sleep-delay (times when these features kick in) in XFCE ? >> I haven't found it yet :-/ .... > I think you need to install xscreensaver separately, > but it will work fine with Xfce. There's even a GUI > setup included. > > Personally, I'm using xlock (port: xlockmore) which > is activated by the big fat friendly "Help" key on > the top left of my Sun keyboard. :-) > > > -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 21 20:30:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0DF13E5 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A199533A1 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from otaku.freeshell.org (IDENT:case@otaku.freeshell.org [192.94.73.9]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s7LKTSUb028999 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256 bits) verified NO); Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:29:33 GMT Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:29:28 +0000 (UTC) From: John Case X-X-Sender: case@faeroes.freeshell.org To: Arthur Chance Subject: Re: Did /nonexistent go away in FreeBSD 9 ? In-Reply-To: <53F59BD2.8010902@qeng-ho.org> Message-ID: References: <53F59BD2.8010902@qeng-ho.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:30:08 -0000 On Thu, 21 Aug 2014, Arthur Chance wrote: >> I also have securelevel=2 ... >> >> So, did something change with /nonexistent in FreeBSD 9, or does >> securelevel=2 screw this up somehow ?? > > The entire point about /nonexistent is that it is nonexistent. The problem was the securelevel=2. If you have securelevel=2 set, the username for an ssh tunnel cannot log in and set up the tunnel with a shell of /nonexistent. I have no idea why - ssh tunnel failed with a message taht the home directory did not exist ... which is correct, since it shouldn't exist. I removed the securelevel setting and it worked perfectly (the ssh tunnel). I have no idea why the securelevel setting would cause this... Any ideas ? I would actually like to set securelevel=2, but I also need my ssh tunnel to work ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 21 20:42:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 434CFBFB for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:42:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f179.google.com (mail-ob0-f179.google.com [209.85.214.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C916353D for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:42:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f179.google.com with SMTP id wn1so7830515obc.38 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 13:41:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ChXmQRpZcoe2lu0aOj62OUjnlqguVzMIwH0JKFeflHE=; b=DwMEb7kXvhGBaeHqHo3xonQW1cXGbzY+iNmjFcyybkc6LEx4W92D01kTMz3j9KQHn1 oDojc6EkDy2VT+7StWoyLrvCs+hkdl0AHZ+BhZyh4n3n6k3MbGXdmHgPEtHFOjHSmr6P GZbYH133dGMeoI0CeYDAIwkRkuG4uylnO8Ffe1Apgcx8Fy+olV8bjZrYg8a24ogxoUVa gOOVNxrYRq+VHneqY2qCbabtfOCNmWtZE8cVSaz8SDYkn+lddruKBpv6/NFOEMkm7jTH SZY4vVFM07uHrqAYI8ClnDOvOIi6tAQjv+8jIknbHqO4urOz4jZwZN+2y2+Ye0ZLAVm/ ceGw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQms0XhWIxk8mjajd07Kgbg28YCAhunmzfY1kSneeNntrUZLKLJZgekTO47x5TEOFzhSPLc1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.135.37 with SMTP id pp5mr926922oeb.54.1408653716390; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 13:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.120.37 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 13:41:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <53F59BD2.8010902@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 13:41:56 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Did /nonexistent go away in FreeBSD 9 ? From: Michael Sierchio To: John Case , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:42:03 -0000 On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 1:29 PM, John Case wrote: > The problem was the securelevel=2. > > If you have securelevel=2 set, the username for an ssh tunnel cannot log in > and set up the tunnel with a shell of /nonexistent. > > I have no idea why - ssh tunnel failed with a message taht the home > directory did not exist ... which is correct, since it shouldn't exist. > > I removed the securelevel setting and it worked perfectly (the ssh tunnel). > > I have no idea why the securelevel setting would cause this... > > Any ideas ? I would actually like to set securelevel=2, but I also need my > ssh tunnel to work ... What's the tunnel for? I.e., what sub-protocol are you using? scp? How are you authenticating? - M From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 21 20:45:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8F72EB5 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:45:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7B153588 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:45:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from otaku.freeshell.org (IDENT:case@otaku.freeshell.org [192.94.73.9]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s7LKjNlv000143 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256 bits) verified NO); Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:45:24 GMT Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:45:23 +0000 (UTC) From: John Case X-X-Sender: case@faeroes.freeshell.org To: Michael Sierchio Subject: Re: Did /nonexistent go away in FreeBSD 9 ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <53F59BD2.8010902@qeng-ho.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:45:58 -0000 On Thu, 21 Aug 2014, Michael Sierchio wrote: >> I removed the securelevel setting and it worked perfectly (the ssh tunnel). >> >> I have no idea why the securelevel setting would cause this... >> >> Any ideas ? I would actually like to set securelevel=2, but I also need my >> ssh tunnel to work ... > > What's the tunnel for? I.e., what sub-protocol are you using? scp? How > are you authenticating? It is sshuttle. Super lightweight ssh tunnel app for creating a simple VPN. Pretty stock, standard SSH tunnel. Again, works perfectly if securelevel is off, complains about /nonexistent not being a real dir (and refuses to log in) if securelevel=2. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 21 20:57:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82B453FB for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f179.google.com (mail-ob0-f179.google.com [209.85.214.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4AE6E3692 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f179.google.com with SMTP id wn1so7895591obc.24 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 13:57:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=L0nFfdY8OTS62Nw5KLUJPiM/moZWSzJw79MwK6ExUxc=; b=k0uVR6nq59+PmRPzunYs9FGpKvMnXdSWax5IQHiWL8mUUYHDMCmGTBI/Jwvm7Q81s6 KR89eAlkmB4GVR/OHUy6M+0axLTBqzIJ+6kVQ1HlXdxNtfSESwhGgXbHAozZ9DkqJkwE 9av37nex8lf2CeSEdkWUXmC/Bk011TdtaBgLHyU/OJUDj8ocJS20Ud3wEtazWIwYaPKC 9qNKR8ACcMkvrAKnzDAXYUUTL/TDBP3YR12GI4okWI0skH2UyIo8ZCDaO4d7xiUGUFpj 0KBFMLCJz9h0j5oIAM0BcTu1u7pD2Pctfq8emaBu0JDRCHmyL1/tg/Wn6XnNFjykrRw7 VHxQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkCnkmxtsJsowS/3BOrMVtAeS8ZcMA2YQwXTGQ2LVrkPawWz2DmC2t7t+34ZDEMt1Nl4mLd MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.27.5 with SMTP id p5mr1009624obg.42.1408654631693; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 13:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.120.37 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 13:57:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <53F59BD2.8010902@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 13:57:11 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Did /nonexistent go away in FreeBSD 9 ? From: Michael Sierchio To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:57:12 -0000 On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 1:45 PM, John Case wrote: > It is sshuttle. Super lightweight ssh tunnel app for creating a simple VPN. > Pretty stock, standard SSH tunnel. > > Again, works perfectly if securelevel is off, complains about /nonexistent > not being a real dir (and refuses to log in) if securelevel=2. The SSH version level got bumped in 9.2 (IIRC) and some behavior is different. Perhaps that's why? PAM config for SSH? - M From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 21 22:40:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C741A875 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 22:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-f50.google.com (mail-pa0-f50.google.com [209.85.220.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C64C3FCF for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 22:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id et14so15311217pad.23 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 15:40:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:mail-followup-to:date:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=bIbY3FPfB6ZQ6hHdqogcjTzFSL+P2rWkjlWa+cxgsbE=; b=lmCDtxKEH2Fk5ph1DJ184N/AFvgkWM1VLRggfODCxK6z81U0u0PtNtC/kMfX3vIm4N JWoIFFPUhTk1DY3L5t0UNkyx5e4RPBb9Fj2UGl+d+B9j3WOGCOu54bNR+ICHZb5rPjWr joSM2c3JvTPC4E3cTkqlrnxPxh9d7yamR3hJ+m3fhDEmqvIvAVpDfV7lFuZlZ4o7D5tW eB5oRbqMtiT/QRCg8Xd61oiEtRCY71ZWRAKbB4TEamE7fBKfaHWXvLh2sJbl0BKSED3y tG0fRitTcJVpACjClPHbF3I4g8QXZtRSl8Ho3VZmN6yOTivdXHVWqbpauvaIjP1DXRun h11Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnvIa6iv3fCTJaSFeCFFpRwMSXZ43uv6P5Bqqv4z5XSYw4in6NbDTWLLQkjWJxFnUm1qv01 X-Received: by 10.66.242.47 with SMTP id wn15mr1784155pac.64.1408660825418; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 15:40:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elk.localnet ([2604:8800:100:82aa:6ef0:49ff:fe05:658b]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dr9sm40468316pdb.78.2014.08.21.15.40.24 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 21 Aug 2014 15:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carlj by elk.localnet with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XKb1p-0006ku-Hk for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 15:40:21 -0700 From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: What happened to ruby-tk? Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 15:40:21 -0700 Message-ID: <87bnrdii0a.fsf@elk.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 22:40:31 -0000 There used to be a ruby-tk port, but I don't see it in the current ports tree. I looked at the Makefile in the ruby port and it specifically sets tk aside to be built for external ports. There doesn't appear to be any config option to get it and no port, so how do I get it? There doesn't seem to be any rubygems available to install/build it, but I might have missed one. Thanks for any ideas. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 00:37:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39B4A125 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 00:37:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server1.shellworld.net (shellworld.net [69.60.117.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176883B93 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 00:37:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server1.shellworld.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server1.shellworld.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA4C229A7 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:37:49 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Mounting One of the memstick Image Files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <60841.1408667869.1@server1.shellworld.net> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:37:49 -0500 From: "Martin G. McCormick" Message-Id: <20140822003749.ACA4C229A7@server1.shellworld.net> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 00:37:56 -0000 Sometimes, one runs in to an amazing amount of trouble trying to do the simplest things. I need to modify FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img to enable a serial console. It involves adding only one more line to /boot/loader.conf. Dirt simple, right? Well, maybe. I have a Debian system with USB ports and a virtual FreeBSD system hosted by a Mac. The USB ports on the Mac are not passed through to the FreeBSD VM and technical difficulties are likely to prevent me from modifying the VirtualBox VM to set this up. No, you don't want to hear that story. So, if I could mount FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img, read/write, make the change, write back to the image and then copy the image back to the Debian system, I could still accomplish what needs to be done. I am sure the mount process is similar to mounting an ISO image, but what type description goes in the -t flag? In all of this, I also discovered that you can't mount the ufs file system in Debian although it almost happens. The mount appears to work but one gets a spew of I/O errors any time one does anything in what should be the UFS tree. I think I also read that if you recompile the Debian kernel, you can mount ufs read-only which doesn't help anyway. This is definitely in the "For want of a nail, a shoe was lost" department. Many thanks. Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 01:04:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9951C6D9 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 01:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm46.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm46.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.120.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A1923F0D for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 01:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm46.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2014 01:04:42 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.180] by nm46.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2014 01:01:46 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.175] by tm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2014 01:01:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1031.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2014 01:01:46 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 621628.52332.bm@omp1031.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 4361 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Aug 2014 01:01:46 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1408669306; bh=NZ43hyEL8X7D39IGXS/mf9g1Pk0/jbrAsFqo4o6HLjE=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QG8qe20fvsFQky9Ke+L+WMjcZywv5QPfM0cmkFiPhc1J7DekJBjMv9OSoqwmDuijiLEIHsoaXxl8EhOkqiour82lZQ4k/PuVYv6TLH3Kp7fKqdCrIrT6vpGFSAxFFi8lCcjlz8kIWCzkxzStJHjGp1s9K2ob628K15FicPZrCKE= X-YMail-OSG: xCPPZsEVM1liNQ0STpyw_qqHlwFNlSCDmFavGL3v9KiH5gY 2sznkGw1ZMIrVRouNUEsvuYEqnC9oA1P0ei26HLXttOaJDwCPkofoJHSR5di k8jhGSHN7g_w5IuG29J_.I_VmtfzE7sJdVEXAu.AzSAmY7.kt.ZXpXJtXBdw w6G9Dmab4dVgCoFU.A55iYPnbYy21zzd93JVCEvgADgeNA1f4jMEMvGl2q1_ 94ZoCSM469i6p5ki4eYX9a2OVVExniBoqZDKKUKLa67T_nQptYA3QFTR5TYG lvcm5iWdrqiYUKTZH97SGcUGsobZkM3N6GScgyT6K87Cjr.raOJq07PmM14G P39._RGQ_U5FjM1FqfYNZw9gMb6sx8cGyH2dB3ZJKQEBrHOdeRDrGm4TcOW. toryIbvmwun9BHA0smeS5cGcgMxaOuF14YqVyl1MhwIy74l0XsxjUsyB2VxY wVjsfE8zPtl2NTLCswWS0hYZeMBz2G7CjKogCXkGKWjgxBs3H4xHJv3fz8IU y8ichOjLabaMg341vmCn10165q12heBqsq4IJFwHyyrGNWyMM.CC.02xwJAh HJs3gXWBdbDGM02KL3C9PwHKEw2S1Sqi.uPK2d8Of_nbb8qo2_IaBjoUdym4 .y6Y7xs60.SPFVnyqg0x2iSv3yBqAdvbBp9EuivpZyTcz8jqbvItoJ0_xfyn b.S7ghMGHDRp5lc3ZtGKvZbeo6H1xHhMuiX8sY4.915SSZ1R981ZH_fDhCLP VRuS0nKw0haw6WmLqZXMes2W05o86wv_P9ohwgvwvMw-- Received: from [166.147.108.93] by web120306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 18:01:46 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001, VGhpcyBpc3N1ZSBpcyBzdGlsbCB1bnJlc29sdmVkLsKgIERvZXMgYW55b25lIGVsc2UgaGF2ZSBhbnkgc3VnZ2VzdGlvbnM_CgpSZWdhcmRzLAoKLUJ1cnRvbgoKU2VudCBmcm9tIFlhaG9vIE1haWwgb24gQW5kcm9pZAoKATABAQEB X-Mailer: YahooMailAndroidMobile/4.5.1 YahooMailWebService/0.8.201.700 Message-ID: <1408669306.20048.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web120306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 18:01:46 -0700 From: Burton Sampley Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.0-R-p7 bind9.9 starting named on boot? To: "questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <1406816564.4269.YahooMailBasic@web120303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 01:04:43 -0000 This issue is still unresolved.=A0 Does anyone else have any suggestions?= =0A=0ARegards,=0A=0A-Burton=0A=0ASent from Yahoo Mail on Android=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 01:07:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11D03794 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 01:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B35D33F30 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 01:07:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7M16qTY038318 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:06:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s7M16qQC038315; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:06:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:06:52 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: "Martin G. McCormick" Subject: Re: Mounting One of the memstick Image Files In-Reply-To: <20140822003749.ACA4C229A7@server1.shellworld.net> Message-ID: References: <20140822003749.ACA4C229A7@server1.shellworld.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:06:52 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 01:07:01 -0000 On Thu, 21 Aug 2014, Martin G. McCormick wrote: > Sometimes, one runs in to an amazing amount of trouble > trying to do the simplest things. I need to modify > FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img to enable a serial > console. It involves adding only one more line to > /boot/loader.conf. Dirt simple, right? Well, maybe. I have a > Debian system with USB ports and a virtual FreeBSD system hosted > by a Mac. The USB ports on the Mac are not passed through to the > FreeBSD VM and technical difficulties are likely to prevent me > from modifying the VirtualBox VM to set this up. No, you don't > want to hear that story. > > So, if I could mount FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img, read/write, > make the change, write back to the image and then copy the image > back to the Debian system, I could still accomplish what needs > to be done. > I am sure the mount process is similar to mounting an > ISO image, but what type description goes in the -t flag? It is UFS, although Linux might call it something else. However, the last time I looked, the memstick image used a "dangerously dedicated" bsdlabel partition, which might not be understood by non-BSD systems. It should be possible to skip over the bsdlabel sectors when mounting the filesystem, but I don't know how many blocks should be skipped. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 01:07:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F5BD83D for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 01:07:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x234.google.com (mail-la0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C774A3F4C for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 01:07:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id b17so9271451lan.39 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 18:07:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=I2Jpfor9QuCRPr+iUr0CauXxMabAj3DaHPRx/neax5k=; b=tAX7VtxPauf9xki3phhtcwdmjNlzxUehL9IHMSbTWn5upNmvG0Ag4a+y8grTby43bi IyAbcf6ExdkAsKKwvYw/U5RGcD7aA/kq3S+6lRh+ADuGs55OTY8fVxxMZmFig2HadxJO RWptILvy1AdnSXKoMm8iFNa7TOR8gOxHSjshweTa2q09oNIQoaFRP/gJjPUCesnqFR26 ZgzgDuIRkgZ1aagWXmF2TNUt6DGqzeimoPCgGHtVUmPHzDaNVL3gjPBL3GXzyyAtyqV0 bnYZq0eEB1t5h9AczLUyLPzBU9RXzmnKcFuVq3CcXU6gag0aJ+JN6HPmnt3F82Dyir3d htbg== X-Received: by 10.152.28.134 with SMTP id b6mr1644751lah.33.1408669666510; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 18:07:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: argiopeweb@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.145.193 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 18:07:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140822003749.ACA4C229A7@server1.shellworld.net> References: <20140822003749.ACA4C229A7@server1.shellworld.net> From: Elliot Robinson Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:07:26 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: jJ8rmyfrivLzpHtqRifZLpbkiag Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mounting One of the memstick Image Files To: "Martin G. McCormick" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 01:07:49 -0000 I know your pain. On Linux, `mount -t ufs -o ufstype=44bsd` is what you're looking for. This requires that your system knows how to write UFS, which might be a problem. A possibly easier way to do this would be to boot off the memstick, remount root as rw, and make the change from the live memstick. I've seen some problems reading any new/modified files created by doing this from Linux (complains about bad inodes), but it seems to work from the BSD perspective... --- Elliot Robinson PGP Key: 9FEDE59A On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Martin G. McCormick < martin@server1.shellworld.net> wrote: > Sometimes, one runs in to an amazing amount of trouble > trying to do the simplest things. I need to modify > FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img to enable a serial > console. It involves adding only one more line to > /boot/loader.conf. Dirt simple, right? Well, maybe. I have a > Debian system with USB ports and a virtual FreeBSD system hosted > by a Mac. The USB ports on the Mac are not passed through to the > FreeBSD VM and technical difficulties are likely to prevent me > from modifying the VirtualBox VM to set this up. No, you don't > want to hear that story. > > So, if I could mount FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img, > read/write, > make the change, write back to the image and then copy the image > back to the Debian system, I could still accomplish what needs > to be done. > I am sure the mount process is similar to mounting an > ISO image, but what type description goes in the -t flag? > In all of this, I also discovered that you can't mount > the ufs file system in Debian although it almost happens. The > mount appears to work but one gets a spew of I/O errors any time > one does anything in what should be the UFS tree. > I think I also read that if you recompile the Debian > kernel, you can mount ufs read-only which doesn't help anyway. > This is definitely in the "For want of a nail, a shoe > was lost" department. > Many thanks. > > Martin McCormick > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 01:16:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F2F9B11 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 01:16:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x22a.google.com (mail-la0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1551F305B for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 01:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f42.google.com with SMTP id pv20so9453115lab.15 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 18:16:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=56jUPphIl/X2EBSTtUH2nV05n0lKsLtb8WK1IIdLZto=; b=wJM7SRlQAI4Dv2F2VLRhORQazeUMuLVBfbOtuLIw9dSKwfzM+QDLUA9ArE3tviE4Dr mEtOL/kgnvFVPdUh8+0xIZr+CEXzQ/HazUnyRr4HdCDCr91bye74kzygHbyGeFYHDNjT dRTtXWJEIYOrmLMJofdVzrBjlSDLqVfhOaRn9G6+ISBVFq8DDVu8L5ipMhp9vAF0VQ4Z J08l2YlHm3HIGd7KbBYyMIcxpBihIwOUROA7Qr7do2ACgu8atul0N8dwRx7rlmQPIWgi 0onwqmILgFUIB/jDK/nDwPib1Y/9eoVx/uxknrTyQziCShe7n4blmKpwFwLkL1VkbzCR Badg== X-Received: by 10.112.43.8 with SMTP id s8mr1562304lbl.47.1408670194683; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 18:16:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: argiopeweb@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.145.193 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 18:16:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53F65792.5010802@hiwaay.net> References: <53F649D6.5020402@hiwaay.net> <20140821214523.4e97ba99.freebsd@edvax.de> <53F65792.5010802@hiwaay.net> From: Elliot Robinson Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:16:14 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 99DNBDbr30OXcHbJJ6Z0muGfAEE Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is there any way to set screensaver-delay .... To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 01:16:37 -0000 I'm as big a fan of xlock as the next guy, but `xset` sounds like what you're looking for. `xset q` to see current settings, `xset dpms` and `xset s` are the pertinent top-level commands to set the inactivity periods. The man page has details. --- Elliot Robinson PGP Key: 9FEDE59A On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 4:33 PM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > *Booooyah* !!!! Thx :-) .... > > On 08/21/14 14:45, Polytropon wrote: > >> On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 14:34:46 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >>> .... & monitor-sleep-delay (times when these features kick in) in XFCE ? >>> I haven't found it yet :-/ .... >>> >> I think you need to install xscreensaver separately, >> but it will work fine with Xfce. There's even a GUI >> setup included. >> >> Personally, I'm using xlock (port: xlockmore) which >> is activated by the big fat friendly "Help" key on >> the top left of my Sun keyboard. :-) >> >> >> >> > -- > > William A. Mahaffey III > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <1408669306.20048.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web120306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:26:01 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1408669306.20048.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web120306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: Burton Sampley X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 01:26:09 -0000 On Aug 21, 2014, at 21:01, Burton Sampley via freebsd-questions = wrote: > This issue is still unresolved. Does anyone else have any = suggestions? Did you install bind 9.9 from ports or packages or build it yourself ? I am running 10p7 with bind 9.10 installed from ports with no issues: root@freebsd2:~ # uname -a FreeBSD freebsd2 10.0-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p7 #0: Tue Jul 8 = 06:37:44 UTC 2014 = root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 root@freebsd2:~ # pkg info | grep bind bind910-9.10.0P2_3 BIND DNS suite with updated DNSSEC and = DNS64 root@freebsd2:~ # cat /etc/rc.conf=20 hostname=3D"FreeBSD2" ifconfig_bge0=3D"inet snip netmask snip" defaultrouter=3D=93snip" zfs_enable=3D"YES" sshd_enable=3D"YES" ntpd_enable=3D"YES" powerd_enable=3D"YES" dumpdev=3D"AUTO" named_enable=3D"YES" dhcpd_enable=3D"YES" # # Disable Sendmail sendmail_enable=3D"NO" sendmail_submit_enable=3D"NO" sendmail_outbound_enable=3D"NO" sendmail_msp_queue_enable=3D"NO" # Enable Postfix postfix_enable=3D"YES" root@freebsd2:~ #=20 I have extensive bind logging configured (a holdover from when I used to = manage DNS servers for a medium size company, a few thousand users), so = I have detailed logs in /var/log/named. You may want to configure = logging in named.conf as I have found that syslog does not always catch = the bind startup messages you need to troubleshoot. Try this for = troubleshooting (add to named.conf): logging { // we define channels as locations for logs to go ... channel "syslog" { syslog daemon; severity info; }; channel "info" { file "/var/log/named/named.info" versions 10 size 1m; severity info; print-category yes; print-severity yes; print-time yes; }; // now we define the things to log and which channel to send = them to category "default" { syslog; info; }; }; That should put everything in both syslog and /var/log/named/named.info = (make sure the /var/log/named directory is writable by the named user). = You can crank the severity up to =93debug=94 on the channel (I would not = do that on the syslog channel) for even more detailed logs. You can also try to start named with the -f -d options (from the = command line). -f prevents to from detaching and demonizing, -d sets the = debug level (higher numbers are more details debug info). I know your = problem is a startup one, but I think you might find an odd error that = is not a problem after the system has stabilized but may be an issue = during the boot process. -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 01:37:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB81019C for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 01:37:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.nanoman.ca (mail.nanoman.ca [76.10.173.222]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61A0D326E for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 01:37:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nanocomputer.nanoman.ca (nanocomputer.nanoman.ca [192.168.1.9]) by mail.nanoman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FE31140D; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:28:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nanocomputer.nanoman.ca (Postfix, from userid 62661) id EE20D172AA; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:28:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:28:22 -0400 From: "A.J. Kehoe IV (Nanoman)" To: "Martin G. McCormick" Subject: Re: Mounting One of the memstick Image Files Message-ID: <20140822012822.GE51206@nanocomputer.nanoman.ca> Reply-To: nanoman@nanoman.ca References: <20140822003749.ACA4C229A7@server1.shellworld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="gDGSpKKIBgtShtf+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140822003749.ACA4C229A7@server1.shellworld.net> Organization: Nanoman's Company User-Agent: Mutt (FreeBSD) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 01:37:41 -0000 --gDGSpKKIBgtShtf+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Martin G. McCormick wrote: > Sometimes, one runs in to an amazing amount of trouble >trying to do the simplest things. I need to modify >FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img to enable a serial >console. It involves adding only one more line to >/boot/loader.conf. Dirt simple, right? Well, maybe. I have a >Debian system with USB ports and a virtual FreeBSD system hosted >by a Mac. The USB ports on the Mac are not passed through to the >FreeBSD VM and technical difficulties are likely to prevent me >from modifying the VirtualBox VM to set this up. No, you don't >want to hear that story. > > So, if I could mount FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img, read/write, >make the change, write back to the image and then copy the image >back to the Debian system, I could still accomplish what needs >to be done. > I am sure the mount process is similar to mounting an >ISO image, but what type description goes in the -t flag? > In all of this, I also discovered that you can't mount >the ufs file system in Debian although it almost happens. The >mount appears to work but one gets a spew of I/O errors any time >one does anything in what should be the UFS tree. > I think I also read that if you recompile the Debian >kernel, you can mount ufs read-only which doesn't help anyway. > This is definitely in the "For want of a nail, a shoe >was lost" department. > Many thanks. > >Martin McCormick The memstick images are UFS, so on FreeBSD, you'd use "mount -t ufs". And = if you don't want your installation media to be mounted read-write automati= cally, note that there's an unresolved bug affecting the memstick images: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D187161 --=20 A.J. 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01:48:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31A9B30B for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 01:48:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server1.shellworld.net (shellworld.net [69.60.117.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055223380 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 01:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server1.shellworld.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server1.shellworld.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2F1229A7 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:48:53 -0400 (EDT) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mounting One of the memstick Image Files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <62662.1408672133.1@server1.shellworld.net> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:48:53 -0500 From: "Martin G. McCormick" Message-Id: <20140822014853.0D2F1229A7@server1.shellworld.net> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 01:48:54 -0000 Elliot Robinson writes: > I know your pain. On Linux, `mount -t ufs -o ufstype=44bsd` is what you're > looking for. This requires that your system knows how to write UFS, which > might be a problem. > > A possibly easier way to do this would be to boot off the memstick, > remount > root as rw, and make the change from the live memstick. I've seen some > problems reading any new/modified files created by doing this from > Linux (complains about bad inodes), but it seems to work from the BSD > perspective... Thank you to both posters on this topic. If I could mount the image file on the FreeBSD system, I would do all the editing there and then copy the modified image back to the Debian system to dd in to the thumb drive. I actually got the image that way to start with. When one uses the Linux fdisk program on the drive afterward, it reports that there is both a BSD and DOS magic number and advises the caller to run fdisk with the -b bsd flag. I suspect there is a boot manager of some type that will catch Windows systems in case somebody wants to boot off the memstick on a Windows system. In this case, all I want to do is mount the image in a native FreeBSD environment to actually do the work on adding the comconsole line. All Linux has to do in this exercise is to feed the new modified image back in to the memstick with dd. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 02:04:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 372676D0 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 02:04:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x22d.google.com (mail-lb0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E84D3516 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 02:04:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f173.google.com with SMTP id u10so8863868lbd.18 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:04:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=msOoEXVpEGUU7mNaqASX0/DY6pL7Dt/gw42z/6Wk5mc=; b=NUuLr9q8YrGntia/2xIQUgCw2+kuxA+yniHhZgOCcxTVLRlalUiqsv/eewuJA02jZO rbG918R3Rz1jII5l7OCfoY6AHne00mGMk3trxpW9ubVzeYJ0CLB+wwPYgQcIMIE1Wtjx F7riXcqgmDz9+H2oy0G7m8FM3om7Qfu5bxAlVgNw0ZO6j3QgSJ+dzdv5xq7m32aH6iUC 5Q7/8yeLr355x/AmY3L9z4i+qUCBbNxc9uMK/WYvdqXLLNipGuToh5QF9+dHQMQqR56u 9B+7Kl21cVkQCWzWOLFcwKsdSxTIoDobF71NGMNV1+JF87TJQzmfixLVaE7aNh7rPrEH bChg== X-Received: by 10.112.52.225 with SMTP id w1mr1886289lbo.44.1408673060314; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:04:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: argiopeweb@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.145.193 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:04:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140822014853.0D2F1229A7@server1.shellworld.net> References: <20140822014853.0D2F1229A7@server1.shellworld.net> From: Elliot Robinson Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 22:04:00 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bZiqQMYq7S18PaS2xYwcSaZfu9E Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mounting One of the memstick Image Files To: "Martin G. McCormick" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 02:04:23 -0000 On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Martin G. McCormick < martin@server1.shellworld.net> wrote: > Elliot Robinson writes: > > I know your pain. On Linux, `mount -t ufs -o ufstype=44bsd` is what > you're > > looking for. This requires that your system knows how to write UFS, > which > > might be a problem. > > > > A possibly easier way to do this would be to boot off the memstick, > > remount > > root as rw, and make the change from the live memstick. I've seen some > > problems reading any new/modified files created by doing this from > > Linux (complains about bad inodes), but it seems to work from the BSD > > perspective... > > Thank you to both posters on this topic. If I could > mount the image file on the FreeBSD system, I would do all the > editing there and then copy the modified image back to the > Debian system to dd in to the thumb drive. I actually got the > image that way to start with. > When one uses the Linux fdisk program on the drive > afterward, it reports that there is both a BSD and DOS magic > number and advises the caller to run fdisk with the -b bsd flag. > I suspect there is a boot manager of some type that will catch > Windows systems in case somebody wants to boot off the memstick > on a Windows system. > In this case, all I want to do is mount the image in a > native FreeBSD environment to actually do the work on adding the > comconsole line. All Linux has to do in this exercise is to feed > the new modified image back in to the memstick with dd. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Ah, apologies. I seem to have misunderstood the initial question. Perhaps this section from the handbook will be of help? https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks-virtual.html --- Elliot Robinson PGP Key: 9FEDE59A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 02:32:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94C5FDAF for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 02:32:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server1.shellworld.net (shellworld.net [69.60.117.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A9C376E for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 02:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server1.shellworld.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server1.shellworld.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA8A2298C for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 22:32:34 -0400 (EDT) To: FreeBSD Questions !!!! Subject: Re: Mounting One of the memstick Image Files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <64126.1408674754.1@server1.shellworld.net> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:32:34 -0500 From: "Martin G. McCormick" Message-Id: <20140822023234.9FA8A2298C@server1.shellworld.net> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 02:32:35 -0000 Elliot Robinson writes: > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks-virtual.html > Thank you. One of those methods should work. Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 06:58:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 357BD3D1 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 06:58:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x22d.google.com (mail-wg0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1C613BF6 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 06:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id x12so10258006wgg.16 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 23:58:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=d8RzIruOPu2jvS81I8D0dtU7YYKrv5Jy/TnBFRo8kp0=; b=kvzYrbxUdyOepnejEsrU4XoBUKBW+VnhkVPImJOBLjxqAPviglIcckpJwJgqGtI62W HSlGXTsG3MBu6PNayTKHkmaTHcX1S/zcbXiYmsjU358VyOqMKpKcK9nG3sYE4BkrgAgz RjgRSosf7k+AAQpgNlavi9CBfwRAHE+P9FRKm18cGP6C+tIehjuk4aZDp/J1VXI6Podj Uh/nI7eU+6htVBlZtWzN6wT+iXaxH4vQytQKDAa7OxlrIh2le/k3RlnxKH2O82YH1vCw JWIgCeLPkzoKQdRW54DG2HeQPO+zFB4PpgqhpsBVoMSMZVKGrDmffArDnTEIvYjTGTmT EO3A== X-Received: by 10.180.21.141 with SMTP id v13mr27599954wie.48.1408690705897; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 23:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (host81-157-206-146.range81-157.btcentralplus.com. [81.157.206.146]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fr4sm28072872wic.16.2014.08.21.23.58.25 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 21 Aug 2014 23:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53F6EA10.6090001@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 07:58:24 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: dmesg drm error Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 06:58:28 -0000 Hi everyone, I discovered this error in dmesg this morning and i'm not sure what it means: info: [drm] capturing error event; look for more information in sysctl hw.dri.0.info.i915_error_state i915: render error detected, EIR: 0x00000010 IPEIR: 0x00000000 IPEHR: 0x01000000 INSTDONE: 0xfffffffe INSTPS: 0x0001e000 INSTDONE1: 0xffffffff ACTHD: 0x0320ba08 page table error PGTBL_ER: 0x00000002 error: [drm:pid12:i915_report_and_clear_eir] *ERROR* EIR stuck: 0x00000010, masking Does anyone know what this is and what I should/could do to fix it? This system is FreeBSD 10-STABLE r269787 amd64 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 07:18:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9208797C for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 07:18:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2842D3DB9 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 07:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s7M7IiU1040515; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 08:18:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <53F6EED4.5050505@qeng-ho.org> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 08:18:44 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Case Subject: Re: Did /nonexistent go away in FreeBSD 9 ? References: <53F59BD2.8010902@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 07:18:56 -0000 On 21/08/2014 21:29, John Case wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Aug 2014, Arthur Chance wrote: > >>> I also have securelevel=2 ... >>> >>> So, did something change with /nonexistent in FreeBSD 9, or does >>> securelevel=2 screw this up somehow ?? >> >> The entire point about /nonexistent is that it is nonexistent. > > > The problem was the securelevel=2. > > If you have securelevel=2 set, the username for an ssh tunnel cannot log > in and set up the tunnel with a shell of /nonexistent. > > I have no idea why - ssh tunnel failed with a message taht the home > directory did not exist ... which is correct, since it shouldn't exist. > > I removed the securelevel setting and it worked perfectly (the ssh tunnel). > > I have no idea why the securelevel setting would cause this... > > Any ideas ? I would actually like to set securelevel=2, but I also need > my ssh tunnel to work ... How about setting the home directory to /var/empty? It exists but has the schg flag set so cannot have any entries created in it. IIRC it's used by various daemons that need a directory to chdir to but which shouldn't write to it, which sounds like your use case. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 09:17:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 391AC787 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:17:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from man.dat.pl (dat.pl [80.51.155.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0AF838A1 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:17:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from man.dat.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by man.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC8FD16A22; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 11:11:43 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dat.pl Received: from man.dat.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by man.dat.pl (man.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 1dakidEDEohV; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 11:11:42 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <53F7094C.5030206@dat.pl> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 11:11:40 +0200 From: Maciej Milewski MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What happened to ruby-tk? References: <87bnrdii0a.fsf@elk.localnet> In-Reply-To: <87bnrdii0a.fsf@elk.localnet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: carlj@peak.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:17:23 -0000 On 22.08.2014 00:40, Carl Johnson wrote: > There used to be a ruby-tk port, but I don't see it in the current ports > tree. I looked at the Makefile in the ruby port and it specifically > sets tk aside to be built for external ports. There doesn't appear to > be any config option to get it and no port, so how do I get it? There > doesn't seem to be any rubygems available to install/build it, but I > might have missed one. > > Thanks for any ideas. Looking at FreshPorts[1]: ruby-tk 1.9.3.448,1 BROKEN: does not build with ruby 1.9 DEPRECATED: Does not work with Ruby 1.9 This port expired on: 2013-10-10 [1] http://www.freshports.org/search.php?stype=name&method=match&query=ruby-tk&num=10&deleted=includedeleted&orderby=category&orderbyupdown=asc&search=Search -- Pozdrawiam, Maciej Milewski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 09:41:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89BC6D72 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:41:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 688393B0F for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:41:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:bennett@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.15]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s7M9e7QT020644 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:40:07 GMT Received: (from bennett@localhost) by sdf.org (8.14.8/8.12.8/Submit) id s7M9e6pZ008296; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 04:40:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201408220940.s7M9e6pZ008296@sdf.org> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 04:40:06 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, paul@kraus-haus.org Subject: Re: gvinum raid5 vs. ZFS raidz References: <201408020621.s726LsiA024208@sdf.org> <53DCDBE8.8060704@qeng-ho.org> <201408060556.s765uKJA026937@sdf.org> <53E1FF5F.1050500@qeng-ho.org> <201408070831.s778VhJc015365@sdf.org> <201408070936.s779akMv017524@sdf.org> <201408071106.s77B6JCI005742@sdf.org> <5B99AAB4-C8CB-45A9-A6F0-1F8B08221917@kraus-haus.org> In-Reply-To: <5B99AAB4-C8CB-45A9-A6F0-1F8B08221917@kraus-haus.org> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd@qeng-ho.org, Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:41:35 -0000 Paul Kraus wrote: > On Aug 7, 2014, at 7:06, Scott Bennett wrote: > > > Even just as parity bits, those would amount to only one bit per > > eight bytes, which seems inadequate. OTOH, the 520 bytes thing is > > tickling something in my memory that I can't quite seem to recover, and > > I don't know (or can't remember) what else those eight bytes might be > > used for. In any case, at the time I spoke with the guy at Seagate/Samsung, > > I was unaware of the server grade vs. non-server grade distinction, so I > > didn't know to ask him anything about whether silent errors should be > > accepted as "normal" for the server grade of disks. > > Take a look at the manufacturer data sheets for this drives. All of the ones that I have looked at over the past ten years have included the ?uncorrectable error rate? and it is generally 1 in 10e-14 for ?consumer grade drives? and 1 in 1e-15 for ?enterprise grade drives?. That right there shows the order of magnitude difference in this error rate between consumer and enterprise drives. I'll assume you meant the reciprocals of those ratios or possibly even 1/10 of the reciprocals. ;-) What I'm seeing here is ~2 KB of errors out of ~1.1TB, which is an error rate (in bytes, not bits) of ~1.82e+09, and the majority of the erroneous bytes I looked at had multibit errors. I consider that to be a huge change in the actual device error rates, specs be damned. While I was out of town, I came across a trade magazine article that said that as the areal density of bits approaches the theoretical limit for the recording technology currently in production, the error rate climbs ever more steeply, and that the drives larger than 1 TB are now making that effect easily demonstrable. :-( The article went on to describe superficially a new recording technology due to appear on the mass market in 2015 that will allow much higher bit densities, while drastically improving the error rate (at least until densities eventually close in on that technology's limit). So it may turn out that next year consumers will begin to move past the hump in error rates and will find that hardware RAID will have become acceptably safe once again. The description of the new recording technology looked like a really spiffed up version of the magneto-optical disks of the 1990s. In the meantime, though, the current crops of large-capacity disks apparently require software solutions like ZFS to preserve data integrity. > > The reason no one even discussed it prior to the appearance of 1TB drives is that over the life of a less than 1TB drive you are statistically almost assured of NOT running into it. It was still there, but no one wrote/read enough data over the life of the drive to hit it. That sounds reasonable, but it doesn't account for the error rates I'm seeing. > > On the other hand, I am willing to bet that many of the ?random? systems crashes (and Windows BSOD) were caused by this issue. A hard disk returned a single bit error in a bad place and the system crashed. Quite possibly so, I'd say. > > Note that all disk drives include some amount of error checking, even as far back as the 10MB MFM drives of the 1980?s. Anyone remember having to manually manage the ?Bad block list? ? Those were blocks that were so bad that the error correction could not fix them. But, as far as I can tell, the uncorrectable errors have always been with us, we just did not not see them. > I remember hearing about it, but I was safely tucked away on minicomputers and a mainframe at that point. As I wrote before, an unrecoverable single-bit error resulted in a bad sector reassignment by a human or, as was the policy where I worked at the time, replacement of the disk pack by the vendor. The smallest drive on any pee cee that I used was 20 MB with an average seek time of 68 ms, IIRC. Even that 4 MHz 8088 had to cool its heels for long stretches of time with that drive. Fortunately for me, I didn't have to use that machine for work, but rather for an applied microclimatology course I was taking at the time. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at sdf.org *xor* bennett at freeshell.org * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 13:12:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7E52910 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:12:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-f52.google.com (mail-qa0-f52.google.com [209.85.216.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DE713EE9 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:12:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id j15so9492583qaq.39 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 06:12:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=YBTxKhdXyMy1RKn+/BB1Qv3L5c2eGWppLyel4WY9Pvg=; b=dU8/hceka6G2I+vZ535x6TuaOW+IaamESGMAz8MIPYRg7bRmHevI3i/maK2ft99u2N u57aXk2Bpe4EGG2f7lngkJ4mMwuzVmH+LC3XDfP+yIAT/+cxzd4bbD3qa9dCdbU2Y0WY kMQOWGMUzoDbzpFp6Nh+T6Lu6p3wRaQmnxDbYc+ur208A3NJKoqxCUyJios7LRbztjb1 GTVGtocC+PKjqKN/XXgW8mekIQpwQggqEDkBSlKTBqQge5gycclvSCv+PJ6HXKUMk9MW tN7eKF+hgs5RKSLeO9EhS4HsY+qqsG+62yzd2csUquLaLREFZ6Ddmw4YUuUJBmQAoeK7 R4Ng== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnr2gFkAWMjS1HX1fs9NypnoQsosPhv33rw5VSMokGjDaYFTFrWWftBH1hnPqt9O9SqLE1v X-Received: by 10.140.103.75 with SMTP id x69mr7118314qge.17.1408713167026; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 06:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.65] ([96.236.21.80]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id s13sm34639258qga.40.2014.08.22.06.12.45 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Aug 2014 06:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: gvinum raid5 vs. ZFS raidz Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <201408220940.s7M9e6pZ008296@sdf.org> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:12:45 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7971D6CA-AEE3-447D-8D09-8AC0B9CC6DBE@kraus-haus.org> References: <201408020621.s726LsiA024208@sdf.org> <53DCDBE8.8060704@qeng-ho.org> <201408060556.s765uKJA026937@sdf.org> <53E1FF5F.1050500@qeng-ho.org> <201408070831.s778VhJc015365@sdf.org> <201408070936.s779akMv017524@sdf.org> <201408071106.s77B6JCI005742@sdf.org> <5B99AAB4-C8CB-45A9-A6F0-1F8B08221917@kraus-haus.org> <201408220940.s7M9e6pZ008296@sdf.org> To: Scott Bennett X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd@qeng-ho.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:12:54 -0000 On Aug 22, 2014, at 5:40, Scott Bennett wrote: > Paul Kraus wrote: >> Take a look at the manufacturer data sheets for this drives. All of = the ones that I have looked at over the past ten years have included the = ?uncorrectable error rate? and it is generally 1 in 10e-14 for ?consumer = grade drives? and 1 in 1e-15 for ?enterprise grade drives?. That right = there shows the order of magnitude difference in this error rate between = consumer and enterprise drives. >=20 > I'll assume you meant the reciprocals of those ratios or possibly = even > 1/10 of the reciprocals. ;-) Uhhh, yeah, my bad. > What I'm seeing here is ~2 KB of errors out > of ~1.1TB, which is an error rate (in bytes, not bits) of ~1.82e+09, = and the > majority of the erroneous bytes I looked at had multibit errors. I = consider > that to be a huge change in the actual device error rates, specs be = damned. That seems like a very high error rate. Is the drive reporting those = errors or are they getting past the drive=92s error correction and = showing up as checksum errors in ZFS ? A drive that is throwing that = many errors is clearly defective or dying. > While I was out of town, I came across a trade magazine article = that > said that as the areal density of bits approaches the theoretical = limit for > the recording technology currently in production, the error rate = climbs ever > more steeply, and that the drives larger than 1 TB are now making that = effect > easily demonstrable. :-( It took perpendicular recording to make >1TB drives possible at all.=20 > The article went on to describe superficially a new > recording technology due to appear on the mass market in 2015 that = will allow > much higher bit densities, while drastically improving the error rate = (at > least until densities eventually close in on that technology's limit). = So > it may turn out that next year consumers will begin to move past the = hump in > error rates and will find that hardware RAID will have become = acceptably safe > once again. The description of the new recording technology looked = like a > really spiffed up version of the magneto-optical disks of the 1990s. = In the > meantime, though, the current crops of large-capacity disks apparently > require software solutions like ZFS to preserve data integrity. I do not know the root cause of the uncorrectable errors, but they seem = to vary with product line and not capacity. Whether that means the = Enterprise drives with the order of magnitude better uncorrectable error = rate has better coatings on the platters or better heads or better = electronics or better QC I do not know. So I don=92t know how mud this = new technology will effect those errors. -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 15:44:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 456F1267 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:44:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 124AA31C4 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-195.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.195]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7MFisu7003212 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 10:44:55 -0500 Message-ID: <53F766ED.5010005@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 10:51:09 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: More pkg issues .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:44:57 -0000 I just tried to install some stuff using pkg & got the following: [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:47:58am] 551 % pkg install enscript-a4-1.6.6_1 enscript-letter-1.6.6_1 enscript-letterdj-1.6.6_1 enscriptfonts-0.81_1 zh-enscript-a4-1.6.6_1 Updating repository catalogue FreeBSD repository is up-to-date All repositories are up-to-date The following 11 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): New packages to be INSTALLED: enscript-a4: 1.6.6_1 enscript-letter: 1.6.6_1 enscript-letterdj: 1.6.6_1 enscriptfonts: 0.81_1 zh-enscript-a4: 1.6.6_1 ghostscript9: 9.06_7 libpaper: 1.1.24_2 cups-image: 1.7.3_1 svgalib: 1.4.3_7 jbig2dec: 0.11_2 zh-ttfm: 0.9.5_5 The process will require 51 MB more space 2 MB to be downloaded Proceed with this action [y/N]: y Fetching enscript-a4-1.6.6_1.txz: 100% of 315 kB Fetching enscript-letter-1.6.6_1.txz: 100% of 316 kB Fetching enscript-letterdj-1.6.6_1.txz: 100% of 316 kB Fetching enscriptfonts-0.81_1.txz: 100% of 1 MB Fetching zh-enscript-a4-1.6.6_1.txz: 100% of 316 kB Fetching zh-ttfm-0.9.5_5.txz: 100% of 27 kB Checking integrity... done (3 conflicting) pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver: cannot install package enscript-a4~print/enscript-a4, remove it from request [Y/n]: y cannot install package enscript-letter~print/enscript-letter, remove it from request [Y/n]: y Checking integrity... done (1 conflicting) pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver: cannot install package enscript-letterdj~print/enscript-letterdj, remove it from request [Y/n]: y cannot install package zh-enscript-a4~chinese/enscript, remove it from request [Y/n]: y Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) Conflicts with the existing packages have been found. One more solver iteration is needed to resolve them. The following 1 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): New packages to be INSTALLED: enscriptfonts: 0.81_1 The process will require 3 MB more space Proceed with this action [y/N]: [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:49:18am] 552 % Pilot error ? pkg bug ? C'mon, enquiring minds wanna know ;-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 16:01:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4837C681 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:01:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x22e.google.com (mail-wi0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D451333A7 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id d1so10398015wiv.13 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:01:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rcc59ypc19fCDJzSXrVkpDgNWppfLPvjNWfijYFQHVo=; b=bLW2xeJyOKV25s1PaeK1CCH6tgORmJKEx12tkIpR3okfDuDhuxyYW540ZQWJxftG9g F9xPa2gM+PDqHPWEkDsRSYHDS7daYnEIUWV+fyCsrFX3sCfwnDR/ctWqa70q0Ydcc1Pn QaNcrSllOE/yyz8sJhUlhbaucTvlCZkkMJp0QFVQpQ1Cil26ib894+5cyyy3cjbvaxmE 1K1GMnh5ZL446gXKMT1koN1KhI6NShOJaSUeQHy95UTyiKZhxL1qExlY4Tdoz3T+lFbn nJqHhd4a7+hjuE2mqZ9uVdEhZMw/038VPwvMWq/24szQx3GO89LJO3lVscuColv7du0B wwDA== X-Received: by 10.194.82.106 with SMTP id h10mr4554274wjy.37.1408723275063; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (5ec2dc90.skybroadband.com. [94.194.220.144]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id kz6sm64722710wjb.47.2014.08.22.09.01.13 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:01:12 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: solid state drives? Message-ID: <20140822170112.69830ad9@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <53F2399D.5050609@hiwaay.net> References: <53F22E89.3050005@rcn.com> <53F2399D.5050609@hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:01:17 -0000 On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 12:36:29 -0500 William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > None of the SSD's are/will be as durable as spinning drives for > writes .... That said, the SLC type are more durable than MLC or > TLC .... Also more $$$$ & usually only available in smaller sizes. > Good for a root drive, i.e. mostly read-olny operations. Swap & > everything else on spinning platters .... A typical modern 120GB MLC SSD will have a specified write endurance of around 8TB which is equivalent to 1GB a day for 22 years. They should be fine for most things where there's nothing doing heavy duty writing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 16:02:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B781F719 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:02:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 893503433 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:02:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id rd3so16776626pab.28 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:02:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:references:mail-followup-to:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=Zta5cQi6sQ5gxYyIgAyEOd9Phvuk5gm+ukO13vqAS7A=; b=NGQzYOUxOgoiAANG+h9Q0KM9crU+hWJ9emZb5apaIuTe/B4HoMc6XexvTqe/8GdnQN WyL80snMp8axcaym0+jFG3J0Q5VYa8Z1QIcruDmCQdVtNYDcx17U/odqvFRbQoADW1Fh o7HDiK58udM5ZmbhtbzAuHHakmW7S960BloNaBsnfa7BhsoX0sLj2WefmQRNCh0lfn7l tERBeUvB/V4STk00jKJs980gJNPe5tBYjpUL5pE+L4ndJ8bnaTW0Ily2e25/WTs9e0ex EQuvjJsmesURCR3BKOUxqrbD2fZA0279lHmLn+JKgPyZiAzRrTyA29dtQLjpdbRVyfzQ yKzg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnvU9kqoEXm5eoOdGZmgtQ0O+vWGbg115ZNE0e6WgJbqldbg/V7P/x9isTf1dyxDqst/n5C X-Received: by 10.66.66.202 with SMTP id h10mr7644441pat.70.1408723327848; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elk.localnet ([2604:8800:100:82aa:6ef0:49ff:fe05:658b]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id rn7sm103621970pab.39.2014.08.22.09.02.06 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carlj by elk.localnet with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XKrHv-00048S-UL for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:02:03 -0700 From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What happened to ruby-tk? References: <87bnrdii0a.fsf@elk.localnet> <53F7094C.5030206@dat.pl> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:02:03 -0700 In-Reply-To: <53F7094C.5030206@dat.pl> (Maciej Milewski's message of "Fri, 22 Aug 2014 11:11:40 +0200") Message-ID: <8761hkikck.fsf@elk.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:02:09 -0000 Maciej Milewski writes: > On 22.08.2014 00:40, Carl Johnson wrote: >> There used to be a ruby-tk port, but I don't see it in the current ports >> tree. I looked at the Makefile in the ruby port and it specifically >> sets tk aside to be built for external ports. There doesn't appear to >> be any config option to get it and no port, so how do I get it? There >> doesn't seem to be any rubygems available to install/build it, but I >> might have missed one. >> >> Thanks for any ideas. > Looking at FreshPorts[1]: > > ruby-tk 1.9.3.448,1 > BROKEN: does not build with ruby 1.9 > DEPRECATED: Does not work with Ruby 1.9 > This port expired on: 2013-10-10 > > [1] > http://www.freshports.org/search.php?stype=name&method=match&query=ruby-tk&num=10&deleted=includedeleted&orderby=category&orderbyupdown=asc&search=Search Thanks, I keep forgetting to check FreshPorts, and didn't realize that it would show deleted ports. I am running ruby-tk on Debian linux, so I guess I need to look into how to patch it to work on FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 16:34:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B24628A for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:34:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 332353729 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:34:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s7MGYqsA041713; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:34:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <53F7712C.5080807@qeng-ho.org> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:34:52 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: solid state drives? References: <53F22E89.3050005@rcn.com> <53F2399D.5050609@hiwaay.net> <20140822170112.69830ad9@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20140822170112.69830ad9@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:34:56 -0000 On 22/08/2014 17:01, RW wrote: > On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 12:36:29 -0500 > William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > >> None of the SSD's are/will be as durable as spinning drives for >> writes .... That said, the SLC type are more durable than MLC or >> TLC .... Also more $$$$ & usually only available in smaller sizes. >> Good for a root drive, i.e. mostly read-olny operations. Swap & >> everything else on spinning platters .... > > A typical modern 120GB MLC SSD will have a specified write endurance of > around 8TB which is equivalent to 1GB a day for 22 years. They should > be fine for most things where there's nothing doing heavy duty writing. The stated write endurances appear to be very conservative as well. The Tech Report web site has been hammering a variety of SSDs and only started getting actual failures after the 600TB mark, with some still working after 1PB of writes. http://techreport.com/review/26523/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-casualties-on-the-way-to-a-petabyte YMMV of course. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 16:55:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3BC1CE1 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:55:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [198.71.6.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A2B3A5C for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:55:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nber2.nber.org (nber2.nber.org [198.71.6.72]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s7MGfvYK019101 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:41:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:41:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg To: RW Subject: Re: solid state drives? In-Reply-To: <20140822170112.69830ad9@gumby.homeunix.com> Message-ID: References: <53F22E89.3050005@rcn.com> <53F2399D.5050609@hiwaay.net> <20140822170112.69830ad9@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (LRH 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20140401 #7726142, check: 20140822 clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:55:23 -0000 On Fri, 22 Aug 2014, RW wrote: > On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 12:36:29 -0500 > William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > >> None of the SSD's are/will be as durable as spinning drives for >> writes .... That said, the SLC type are more durable than MLC or >> TLC .... Also more $$$$ & usually only available in smaller sizes. >> Good for a root drive, i.e. mostly read-olny operations. Swap & >> everything else on spinning platters .... > > A typical modern 120GB MLC SSD will have a specified write endurance of > around 8TB which is equivalent to 1GB a day for 22 years. They should > be fine for most things where there's nothing doing heavy duty writing. I sort of understand that - but does the SSD have the ability to move unchanged data around to even out the wear? That is, if I fill the drive with 100GB of never changing files, and then write lots of frequently changing files to the last 20GB, does this put all the wear on a small portion of the drive, while most of the drive suffers no wear at all? Maybe I should do a full backup and restore once a year? Daniel Feenberg > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 16:59:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68FA8F9A for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:59:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from EXCHANGE.mail.starnet.cz (exchange.mail.starnet.cz [92.62.224.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "EXCHANGE.mail.starnet.cz", Issuer "STARNET" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF9033AB7 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:59:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from EXCHANGE.mail.starnet.cz ([fe80::d017:9e72:12a5:7bb4]) by EXCHANGE.mail.starnet.cz ([fe80::d017:9e72:12a5:7bb4%14]) with mapi; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:58:11 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Radek_Krej=E8a?= To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:58:09 +0200 Subject: Disable multiqueue Thread-Topic: Disable multiqueue Thread-Index: Ac++KkKQPpSNK6CqTdahC0FWDDgvpA== Message-ID: Accept-Language: cs-CZ Content-Language: cs-CZ X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: cs-CZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:59:23 -0000 Hello, how can I disable multiqueue on NICs? I have problem, that after change of = broken hardware interrupts connection of clients. I have 2 NICs igb and nat= over pf. Client starts download and for some while connections interrupts = and start again. Hardware is the same, but there is new NIC on board which supports multique= ue so I think that this must be the problem. Thank you Radek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 17:30:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAFCBB9A for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smarthost.sentex.ca", Issuer "smarthost.sentex.ca" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90F0E3E67 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a] (saphire3.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7MHUV0A023773; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:30:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <53F77E29.4040300@sentex.net> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:30:17 -0400 From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?UmFkZWsgS3JlasSNYQ==?= , "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Disable multiqueue References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.74 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:30:36 -0000 On 8/22/2014 12:58 PM, Radek KrejÄa wrote: > Hello, > > how can I disable multiqueue on NICs? I have problem, that after change of broken hardware interrupts connection of clients. I have 2 NICs igb and nat over pf. Client starts download and for some while connections interrupts and start again. > > Hardware is the same, but there is new NIC on board which supports multiqueue so I think that this must be the problem. If you suspect that as the case, try hw.igb.enable_msix=0 in /boot/loader.conf ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 17:33:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A725FC69 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:33:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.me.com", Issuer "VeriSign Class 3 Extended Validation SSL SGC CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B8EB3EA3 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:33:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.198.175.92] (mobile-166-147-083-045.mycingular.net [166.147.83.45]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NAP006GFVBK6650@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:33:39 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.27,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-08-22_05:2014-08-22,2014-08-22,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1408220190 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: solid state drives? From: "Peter A. Giessel" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D257) In-reply-to: <20140822170112.69830ad9@gumby.homeunix.com> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 08:33:18 -0800 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: References: <53F22E89.3050005@rcn.com> <53F2399D.5050609@hiwaay.net> <20140822170112.69830ad9@gumby.homeunix.com> To: RW Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:33:46 -0000 > On Aug 22, 2014, at 8:01, RW wrote: >=20 > On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 12:36:29 -0500 > William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >=20 >=20 >> None of the SSD's are/will be as durable as spinning drives for >> writes .... That said, the SLC type are more durable than MLC or >> TLC .... Also more $$$$ & usually only available in smaller sizes. >> Good for a root drive, i.e. mostly read-olny operations. Swap & >> everything else on spinning platters .... >=20 > A typical modern 120GB MLC SSD will have a specified write endurance of > around 8TB which is equivalent to 1GB a day for 22 years. They should > be fine for most things where there's nothing doing heavy duty writing. >=20 This sounds about right. I've burned out (3) SSD drives in the last year, b= ut I'm pushing around 400-800 MB/s sustained random read/write 24/7 (about 4= 0GB/day) on a PCIe SSD drive.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 17:51:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2331456D for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:51:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from EXCHANGE.mail.starnet.cz (exchange.mail.starnet.cz [92.62.224.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "EXCHANGE.mail.starnet.cz", Issuer "STARNET" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A842B30BB for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:51:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from EXCHANGE.mail.starnet.cz ([fe80::d017:9e72:12a5:7bb4]) by EXCHANGE.mail.starnet.cz ([fe80::d017:9e72:12a5:7bb4%14]) with mapi; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:51:54 +0200 From: =?utf-8?B?UmFkZWsgS3JlasSNYQ==?= To: 'Mike Tancsa' , "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:51:53 +0200 Subject: RE: Disable multiqueue Thread-Topic: Disable multiqueue Thread-Index: Ac++LsoK8kt9RnkoSuqGhPzp3LESBwAAjskQ Message-ID: References: <53F77E29.4040300@sentex.net> In-Reply-To: <53F77E29.4040300@sentex.net> Accept-Language: cs-CZ Content-Language: cs-CZ X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: cs-CZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:51:57 -0000 PiA+IEhhcmR3YXJlIGlzIHRoZSBzYW1lLCBidXQgdGhlcmUgaXMgbmV3IE5JQyBvbiBib2FyZCB3 aGljaCBzdXBwb3J0cw0KPiBtdWx0aXF1ZXVlIHNvIEkgdGhpbmsgdGhhdCB0aGlzIG11c3QgYmUg dGhlIHByb2JsZW0uDQo+IA0KPiBJZiB5b3Ugc3VzcGVjdCB0aGF0IGFzIHRoZSBjYXNlLCB0cnkN Cj4gDQo+IGh3LmlnYi5lbmFibGVfbXNpeD0wDQo+IA0KPiBpbiAvYm9vdC9sb2FkZXIuY29uZg0K PiANCg0KW1JhZGVrIEtyZWpjYV0NCkhlbGxvLA0KDQp0aGFuayB5b3UuIEkgZG9udCBrbm93LCB3 aGF0IGVsc2UgY291bGQgYmUuIENvbmZpZyBmaWxlcyBhcmUgdGhlIHNhbWUsIGlzIGl0IGRpc2ts ZXNzIGJveCBhbmQgSSBoYXZlIG9uZSBpbWFnZSBmb3IgYSBsb3Qgb2Ygcm91dGVycy4gVGhlcmUg aXMgbm8gcHJvYmxlbSwgd2hlbiBvbmUgTklDIHN1cHBvcnRzIG11bHRpcXVldWUgYW5kIHNlY29u ZCBub3QgYnV0IHRoaXMgaXMgZmlyc3QgbWFjaGluZSwgd2hlcmUgc3VwcG9ydHMgYm90aC4NCg0K T3IgaXMgdGhlcmUgYW55IGlkZWEsIHdoZXJlIGNvdWxkIGJlIGEgcHJvYmxlbT8gSSBvbmx5IGNo YW5nZSBvbmUgc2VydmVyIGZvciBvdGhlciwgYmVjYXVzZSBmaXJzdCBpcyBicm9rZW4uIElzIHRo ZXJlIGFueSBvcHRpb24gd2hpY2ggc291bGQgYmUgaW4gcGYgd2hlbiBpcyBtdWx0aXF1ZXVlIHN1 cHBvcnRlZD8NCg0KVGhlcmUgaXMgc21hbGwgY2hhbmNlIHRoYXQgdGhpcyBoYXJkd2FyZSBjYW4g YmUgYnJva2VuIHRvIHdpdGggdmVyeSBzdHJhbmdlIHdheS4gQnV0IEkgZG9udCBiZWxpZXZlIGl0 Lg0KDQpUaGFuayB5b3UNClJhZGVrDQo= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 17:59:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01CA46AA for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:59:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x22a.google.com (mail-lb0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77FF5311C for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:59:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f170.google.com with SMTP id l4so9936585lbv.29 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 10:59:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=MVheXPWyTHrRkemPtA2GJ3f3xyYBwkX7cqdbasMtld4=; b=xT1q9YA8VK7GBnaLT788y8E8Gj8TvMv9GipAHnChfm1srF7aHR0uibn4lP8jUmfVob dmw7xQ8bMFNSVflH7OgKlZSoNgiMlf+MIbXJulM7xz0ytte5b0qPWtpznLkfE/NtabeR hXl1Y7mCw7Yg8JYancVvSv1FkZDB0uQCCBeT4sWy3oaqIilLrJ0E+HFPhjIpKTy9THdz rOYaqwsmrzWtC2cK7h8ZpUQZVS9/DRxZNhaX0PN7UAA9WnGOEyL0CRkT6qh/xtEdRvPj TBXviAkSCqsN2yAYrpofki41wweEG/N55u6IU3YkAToyRzzZ9pHYqtxnKrxuuR0vpyZf TqVw== X-Received: by 10.112.35.138 with SMTP id h10mr5404540lbj.65.1408730369475; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 10:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from free10 (pppoe240h173.ppp.kmv.ru. [94.124.240.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id er11sm48038363lbc.49.2014.08.22.10.59.26 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Aug 2014 10:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by free10 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 22 Aug 2014 21:59:25 +0400 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 21:59:25 +0400 From: Dmitry Sarkisov To: Radek =?utf-8?Q?Krej=C4=8Da?= Subject: Re: Disable multiqueue Message-ID: <20140822175925.GA1839@aperturescience.org> Mail-Followup-To: Dmitry Sarkisov , Radek =?utf-8?Q?Krej=C4=8Da?= , "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p7 amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:59:32 -0000 On 22-08-2014, Fri [18:58:09], Radek KrejÄa wrote: > Hello, > > how can I disable multiqueue on NICs? I have problem, that after change of broken hardware interrupts connection of clients. I have 2 NICs igb and nat over pf. Client starts download and for some while connections interrupts and start again. > > Hardware is the same, but there is new NIC on board which supports multiqueue so I think that this must be the problem. > > Thank you > Radek > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- A couple of things I'd check: - possibility of broken cable/card; - tcpdump/wireshark to tell what's going on exactly with your sessions. In case of TCP RST - Which side disrupts the connection. Cheers! -- Dmitry. /---> ------------> \---> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 18:24:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5CBABEDB for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:24:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-f53.google.com (mail-qg0-f53.google.com [209.85.192.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17E5C341F for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:24:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id z60so7109328qgd.26 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 11:24:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=Pud2SzT60sP+Aykk3UFx+yKvAyer7VzlFufS4HIa/rs=; b=FjRSY3vPEbTvfhMwJIgqRmsdDIMoSPWtpYbSqYZCQUWM762DMXk003d3n71/l1DeC1 9f49Yv5TPDEQqHKKs7gq+BvxJJmqaYI7YG/ky3+aVG/9Db1+ZJfU+XDwQR54gCjMcooQ jps2zY7H+znO7ikS702CQn/JXP8i8VcFXMKXVIcXs57mWmVukBWrQuZ+Szodqdl3GDLO jOTK4vKAJuvvlmd0EuUXLkEe3/+lD9pXVa4EZ3tPl+dnKe3PgDBLEHGpVUL6VR77cSuH OzNb6/RLa0dbV/s7EomE329fcNTAVB8xoNdaEmyKLljcs+B8LfUGzCVk/PeALFe6fCFT BA0Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl+USQUu7u1IOxN/QocMRd1kwsv8HC6r/Bcb4mHjoOfTmZhASGaOkyK/SJM+uiuSGlakD+O X-Received: by 10.229.59.67 with SMTP id k3mr10696831qch.26.1408731889316; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 11:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mbp-1.thecreativeadvantage.com (mail.thecreativeadvantage.com. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 14:24:51 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7BDE9B34-C73C-4B29-A9BD-53228336BE70@kraus-haus.org> References: <53F22E89.3050005@rcn.com> <53F2399D.5050609@hiwaay.net> <20140822170112.69830ad9@gumby.homeunix.com> To: Daniel Feenberg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:24:57 -0000 On Aug 22, 2014, at 12:41, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > I sort of understand that - but does the SSD have the ability to move = unchanged data around to even out the wear? That is, if I fill the drive = with 100GB of never changing files, and then write lots of frequently = changing files to the last 20GB, does this put all the wear on a small = portion of the drive, while most of the drive suffers no wear at all? = Maybe I should do a full backup and restore once a year? Keep in mind that location is not a physical parameter in an SSD. Better = (all today ?) SSD=92s do wear leveling where writes are committed to the = cells that have the lowest write counts. Remember, writes count towards = wear out while I do not think reads do. So an SSD that has write once = data (and archive), should never wear out. So it does not matter where within the block range you write, the SSD = puts it where it wants :-) -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 18:32:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 633211C2 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:32:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server1.shellworld.net (shellworld.net [69.60.117.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C2C34EC for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server1.shellworld.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server1.shellworld.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564F522988 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 14:32:08 -0400 (EDT) To: FreeBSD Questions !!!! Subject: Re: Mounting One of the memstick Image Files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <86825.1408732328.1@server1.shellworld.net> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:32:08 -0500 From: "Martin G. McCormick" Message-Id: <20140822183208.564F522988@server1.shellworld.net> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:32:10 -0000 Elliot Robinson writes: > Ah, apologies. I seem to have misunderstood the initial question. > > Perhaps this section from the handbook will be of help? > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks-virtual.html > > --- This works. I mounted the memstick image file according to the instructions for mounting a file system. The handbook also gives you instructions for what to add to loader.conf. After making the modification and unmounting /mnt, I scp'd the new image back to the Debian system and then to the thumb drive. Thanks for the help, everyone. Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 19:00:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5D84B0A for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:00:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rc1.surewest.net (rc1.surewest.net [66.60.130.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1DD373B for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:00:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp3.surewest.net ([66.60.130.145]) by rc1.surewest.net ({dfaaa318-551d-4a0a-8038-7c31cf31c4f6}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20140822190049427 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:00:49 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from webmail.mycci.net (webmail.mycci.net [66.60.130.47]) by smtp3.surewest.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C8E8973E for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:00:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:00:47 -0700 From: leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: how to install wireless n.i.c. on FreeBSD 9.1 Message-ID: X-Sender: leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net User-Agent: Consolidated Webmail/0.9.5 X-MAG-OUTBOUND: surewest.redcondor.net@66.60.130.145/32 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:00:56 -0000 Good morning, dear FreeBSD enthusiasts. I am attempting to install a wireless network interface circuit on a computer running FreeBSD 9.1. I have read the very thorough instructions written by Messrs. Marc Fonvielle and Murray Stokely in the currently posted Chapter 30 of the FreeBSD Handbook. I did not find in that chapter a specification of the version or versions of FreeBSD to which it applied. The circuit board is manufactured by T-LInk, and uses an Atheros integrated circuit I have followed as closely as possible those instuctions, to no avail. The printed circuit board is located at slot 4. About it, dmesg.boot reads only the following: pci40: at device 0.0 (no driver attached). My interpretation of this message is that the operating system sees that there is a circuit board in slot 4, and that it has something to do with networking, and otherwise knows nothing about it. I have checked the /dev directory, and find listed in it none of the driver files mentioned in Chapter 30. I had expected to receive error messages for lines in the configuration files calling for driver files that could not be located, but the only error message generated was "SYNCDHCP not found." This line does not occur in dmesg.boot, but in response to the command (I forgot which command). How do I obtain and install the missing driver files? Why does the fact that they are missing not generate error notices? Any and all comments are appreciated. If these questions have already been answered many times before, please do not flame me. Just let me know where I should have looked for the answers. Thank you. Lee From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 19:21:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B117796 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:21:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x22e.google.com (mail-we0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96E3639E3 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:21:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f174.google.com with SMTP id x48so10981719wes.5 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:21:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8jyWssbU+tDeXqnQadnZRLVTDrNyo60J0Lu4fKJ0Mi8=; b=VEHxtV7pPK0HTwJCVOar6n0h2e/KgtlZYm6vc4+Gy3uaVFuKSKKHc3hh5RMEfg5DJQ 3pGiM2Hcj+kHtWDn0bbo9DMIyZZyUo7RdA39n9AkJ+bnuin9oaKv6z5x7OJ4KrgbQoAf Vl+VU/tKh3+cZ2DCghiUQuNbjFy/56X6oOxJUnMZW9T6tA9kR2eCSFqIX9DjroBoO5kD EXhjGpuHMQDyyT7fAhv0ztO6QhXKsE13ndETfLyElAXf/21bDjl0eALliSDO+LuvYXmg +FGaI6B1EjuWB3+FyKUcwoygFKNp9xxG9U/t0QTZ+0FgUnkwPGRMKPUC3UQrEdw3I44I 5Waw== X-Received: by 10.194.19.200 with SMTP id h8mr6929896wje.40.1408735269688; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (5ec2dc90.skybroadband.com. [94.194.220.144]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id jx10sm77325286wjc.7.2014.08.22.12.21.08 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:21:08 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: solid state drives? Message-ID: <20140822202108.2690f55d@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: <53F22E89.3050005@rcn.com> <53F2399D.5050609@hiwaay.net> <20140822170112.69830ad9@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:21:12 -0000 On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:41:57 -0400 (EDT) Daniel Feenberg wrote: > > A typical modern 120GB MLC SSD will have a specified write > > endurance of around 8TB which is equivalent to 1GB a day for 22 > > years. They should be fine for most things where there's nothing > > doing heavy duty writing. > > I sort of understand that - but does the SSD have the ability to move > unchanged data around to even out the wear? It's called static wear-levelling. I think it's the norm on enterprise grade SSDs, but it's rarely mentioned in the specs of domestic grade drives. > That is, if I fill the > drive with 100GB of never changing files, and then write lots of > frequently changing files to the last 20GB, does this put all the > wear on a small portion of the drive, while most of the drive suffers > no wear at all? Without static wear-levelling it's advisable to leave a sizeable fraction of the drive unused. With trim support that can be inside the filesystem, without it the partitioning should not fill the whole drive. OS files tend to get deleted several times a year during updates, so they aren't so much of a problem, if you have trim support. BTW GELI doesn't support trim, so you have to have some free space outside an encrypted partition. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 19:31:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9C4FD8B for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:31:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A54DE3AFB for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XKuYC-0007hX-NA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 21:31:04 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-82-127.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.82.127]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 21:31:04 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-82-127.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 21:31:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: how to install wireless n.i.c. on FreeBSD 9.1 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:30:46 -0400 Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-82-127.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:32:00 -0000 leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net wrote: > > > Good morning, dear FreeBSD enthusiasts. I am attempting to install a > wireless network interface circuit on a computer running FreeBSD 9.1. I > have read the very thorough instructions written by Messrs. Marc > Fonvielle and Murray Stokely in the currently posted Chapter 30 of the > FreeBSD Handbook. I did not find in that chapter a specification of the > version or versions of FreeBSD to which it applied. The circuit board is > manufactured by T-LInk, and uses an Atheros integrated circuit I have > followed as closely as possible those instuctions, to no avail. The > printed circuit board is located at slot 4. About it, dmesg.boot reads > only the following: pci40: at device 0.0 (no driver attached). > My interpretation of this message is that the operating system sees that > there is a circuit board in slot 4, and that it has something to do with > networking, and otherwise knows nothing about it. I have checked the > /dev directory, and find listed in it none of the driver files mentioned > in Chapter 30. I had expected to receive error messages for lines in the > configuration files calling for driver files that could not be located, > but the only error message generated was "SYNCDHCP not found." This line > does not occur in dmesg.boot, but in response to the command (I forgot > which command). How do I obtain and install the missing driver files? > Why does the fact that they are missing not generate error notices? Any > and all comments are appreciated. If these questions have already been > answered many times before, please do not flame me. Just let me know > where I should have looked for the answers. Thank you. Lee > I have essentially no experience with wifi in FreeBSD so I can't really help you directly except to suggest doing pciconf -lv and check to see if it will list specific hardware details about the wifi card. No need to post all the output, just the section pertaining to the wifi card will suffice. This info may assist others in determining if/how they may be able to help you. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 19:32:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACE7CE42 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:32:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x236.google.com (mail-pd0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 772E13B10 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:32:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f182.google.com with SMTP id fp1so16378900pdb.41 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:32:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:subject:message-id:date:to:mime-version; bh=rnopJBgxncQQ8/YUsFjya99GfyGrn1J8RK0AyOA11LI=; b=R81uu0HiPCn++Hp6xleJ0CWtItPsWJSiDffh4qTSHh8w66ze9QKDSgImKglKbLnqet CMc4rFR/8QfKxHB09CKxw4oebne2ou3Ji/wZVU9PzLHEtbbBT+rb8jzSjtmuuPq8jf9M IdFs6yel4/wSaCUSmY99q/tU1bKruAWTK2ozrYdWdmcMTsYHkNBozGLe5e//GO3FtKIK jS8OPEhpPDZ/DKQeCYl2dhczk7w2vWLwFMOj5Z34+wPQsM2CpC6TQU5ry7MpIIfApFhx SuZA+Rr5mXFF49LoFrojKr+LzHAUXXH0mFCMdhV6XES5AW/drWlblwsXDR8om/+6789E MrDQ== X-Received: by 10.70.123.163 with SMTP id mb3mr3559095pdb.37.1408735978859; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from briankrusicw.logan.tv ([64.17.255.138]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id uw4sm105215722pab.40.2014.08.22.12.32.56 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:32:57 -0700 (PDT) From: aurfalien Subject: Qlogic 2560 support Message-Id: <7A34F40C-147F-4F24-97F2-B4F932CBC686@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:32:52 -0700 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:32:59 -0000 Hi, Has any one used a Qlogic 2560 in Freebsd 9.2/9.3? I=92m getting messages; isp0: port 0xe000-0xe0ff mem = 0xf7440000-0xf7443fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 isp0: setting role to 0x1 isp0: Mailbox Command 'INIT FIRMWARE' failed (COMMAND PARAMETER ERROR) Am I SOL using the Qlogic 8Gb variant? The 2460 works fine, however is 4Gb. - aurf "Janitorial Services" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 20:00:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 551F7122 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:00:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x231.google.com (mail-pa0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28A563DEC for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:00:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id hz1so16809200pad.36 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:00:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to; bh=vrRiW0vuxf3qv4RWKeMkAMg8yvCaA6mQ5I5Q/CNosVY=; b=vdIFjwpM4obnp/L3Fh5yXP3HPT2GEUHONOBnRR715wQgwJC8ZeWIazjBcJ/lgYqnDa uQJZTY5FnGNfQS/udj/vtqnwUjrq9GqLROnkXRqDz0Ok1YIomSB4rqnOz3PEn+6C2Itg nCIWWCIVHJQy5LMUfIHD1EO/QMUU/ZGoaYKFQELIKWsV2QtBXWxh4wa1AGGusz17Zbea sRbQ+wrjKa5Cp6dQ8A64WYTtplmM3kGe8+x6nUhMFIg0+f0H661ZiAUO9bPkcUWkAnn7 0LKIIy4bkyLeYXVRg3jri66kZ3koHLwROFzsfiUrHRBiX69PnD72dR2be6Crid81Xy9V /zhA== X-Received: by 10.66.139.137 with SMTP id qy9mr8897316pab.43.1408737626804; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:00:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from briankrusicw.logan.tv ([64.17.255.138]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dx7sm90020553pab.5.2014.08.22.13.00.24 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:00:25 -0700 (PDT) From: aurfalien Message-Id: <12969F34-8DD6-4B0B-851A-0D9C0315B5F4@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: Qlogic 2560 support - solved Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:00:22 -0700 References: <7A34F40C-147F-4F24-97F2-B4F932CBC686@gmail.com> To: FreeBSD Mailing List In-Reply-To: <7A34F40C-147F-4F24-97F2-B4F932CBC686@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:00:27 -0000 Had to add some isp fromage in the loader.conf. All good. Sorry for the spam. - aurf "Janitorial Services" On Aug 22, 2014, at 12:32 PM, aurfalien wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Has any one used a Qlogic 2560 in Freebsd 9.2/9.3? >=20 > I=92m getting messages; >=20 > isp0: port 0xe000-0xe0ff mem = 0xf7440000-0xf7443fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 > isp0: setting role to 0x1 > isp0: Mailbox Command 'INIT FIRMWARE' failed (COMMAND PARAMETER ERROR) >=20 > Am I SOL using the Qlogic 8Gb variant? >=20 > The 2460 works fine, however is 4Gb. >=20 > - aurf >=20 > "Janitorial Services" >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 20:51:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63595D54 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:51:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x230.google.com (mail-lb0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBA08334D for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f176.google.com with SMTP id u10so10110438lbd.35 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:51:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=sbTeLZYosQ0gfHGwUHFw7a9Ej7llvhGmTvL3BXWFGK8=; b=SCTnf2ECfxd+W/exAX0353ULQ53VuoeHjIv3NJCxrfljU+oOkbN75VMCn7umeBoD+M tg/Kg5CuJxxUedp5bSsKajqPPO3FsTOY3OmYQ4VYJokZL1ROezI6NJRSEk2DICLhHtUh UJ8p6PGtUc+0/8yvVdBfjdCP70CQKgAHwCxdKTvG0CqJpJQcrE+ReKweY9LF46Yxe4GN fakoAhmDRGpWxnlV0DO9nLQtHAoYWcXPPKN7J5Fra3C6yH+/lAI06Vw/KET3Q7CsaK7u tMMp50HR66XShXEf5y25oGGDgXFpYbG7CbfOAUVEV7z9T6SlrgJ7vvDnWxD+6DW/Vbna 1Z+w== X-Received: by 10.112.98.140 with SMTP id ei12mr6545907lbb.6.1408740697676; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:51:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from free10 (pppoe240h173.ppp.kmv.ru. [94.124.240.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bz10sm45093224lbb.10.2014.08.22.13.51.34 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by free10 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 23 Aug 2014 00:51:33 +0400 Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 00:51:33 +0400 From: Dmitry Sarkisov To: leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net Subject: Re: how to install wireless n.i.c. on FreeBSD 9.1 Message-ID: <20140822205133.GA3693@aperturescience.loc> Mail-Followup-To: Dmitry Sarkisov , leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p7 amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:51:40 -0000 On 22-08-2014, Fri [12:00:47], leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net wrote: > > > Good morning, dear FreeBSD enthusiasts. I am attempting to install a > wireless network interface circuit on a computer running FreeBSD 9.1. I > have read the very thorough instructions written by Messrs. Marc > Fonvielle and Murray Stokely in the currently posted Chapter 30 of the > FreeBSD Handbook. I did not find in that chapter a specification of the > version or versions of FreeBSD to which it applied. The circuit board is > manufactured by T-LInk, and uses an Atheros integrated circuit I have > followed as closely as possible those instuctions, to no avail. The > printed circuit board is located at slot 4. About it, dmesg.boot reads > only the following: pci40: at device 0.0 (no driver attached). > My interpretation of this message is that the operating system sees that > there is a circuit board in slot 4, and that it has something to do with > networking, and otherwise knows nothing about it. I have checked the > /dev directory, and find listed in it none of the driver files mentioned > in Chapter 30. I had expected to receive error messages for lines in the > configuration files calling for driver files that could not be located, > but the only error message generated was "SYNCDHCP not found." This line > does not occur in dmesg.boot, but in response to the command (I forgot > which command). How do I obtain and install the missing driver files? > Why does the fact that they are missing not generate error notices? Any > and all comments are appreciated. If these questions have already been > answered many times before, please do not flame me. Just let me know > where I should have looked for the answers. Thank you. Lee > It looks like your particular device is not being recognized. You may check ath(4) man page, it might give you some hints how to run your card. -- Dmitry. /---> -------+----> \---> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 20:52:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E51EDDF for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32152335A for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:52:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lb7f8hsrpno-svcs.dcs.int.inet (HELO pd6mr1no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca) ([10.0.144.222]) by pd6mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 22 Aug 2014 14:52:26 -0600 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=lLInIC/DOn5n3D6orsHucpvSdvghcbAX3G2gHjt9VEo= c=1 sm=1 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=qIhQO8AZxy0A:10 a=2Q-6HTQoNk4A:10 a=gMm8P6gNfA8A:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=icdV9osjAAAA:8 a=zzvZSzUy5vdSjHTo8nMA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=rExlzJ4ePEIA:10 a=lFb7OTkpxXkA:10 a=gnhXxQbmXQZcFwKvLU0A:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO cds029.dcs.int.inet) ([10.0.144.222]) by pd6mr1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 22 Aug 2014 14:52:26 -0600 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 14:52:26 -0600 (MDT) From: REZA SHAMS To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <2112854402.54683496.1408740746699.JavaMail.root@cds029> In-Reply-To: <1408708991.953679.430796424.7746185.1428@ticket.wikimedia.org> Subject: Removing a file from your database MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 1 Importance: high X-Originating-IP: [184.70.196.202] X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.1.4_GA_2567 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/7.1.4_GA_2555) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:52:28 -0000 Greetings, This is to request for the following file to be removed from your database for safety reasons. 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Best Regards, Reza Shams From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 22 20:59:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06776EFF for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server1.shellworld.net (shellworld.net [69.60.117.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D861133B0 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:59:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server1.shellworld.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server1.shellworld.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8506229A2 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:59:09 -0400 (EDT) To: FreeBSD Questions !!!! Subject: More Questions about Booting from a Thumb Drive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <91161.1408741149.1@server1.shellworld.net> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:59:09 -0500 From: "Martin G. McCormick" Message-Id: <20140822205909.E8506229A2@server1.shellworld.net> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:59:11 -0000 I started with FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img, added loader.conf to get a serial console and then used dd to put the new image on to a thumb drive. We tried it on a brand new Dell server with no previous operating system. This server uses EFI instead of BIOS-type booting. The thumb drive was in the boot order and the system saw it, so to speak, but it can't boot from it. We also tried the drive on several laptops and work stations and none of them ever booted FreeBSD. The only thing I did to the image was the addition of the loader.conf file in /boot. In the pristine image, there is no loader.conf file, but this problem is more a failure to launch. The system sees the drive and could boot if it liked what it saw but it doesn't attempt to even start to boot. I created the drive image by: dd if=FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-memstick-headless.img of=/dev/sdb Of course, /dev/sdb was what it happened to be on this computer but all that appeared to go perfectly. It just doesn't boot. Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 23 00:55:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7842AA07 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 00:55:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 139E536CB for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 00:55:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C5D53CC96; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 02:55:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7N0tRHr002752; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 02:55:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 02:55:27 +0200 From: Polytropon To: leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net Subject: Re: how to install wireless n.i.c. on FreeBSD 9.1 Message-Id: <20140823025527.bd80818d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 00:55:37 -0000 On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:00:47 -0700, leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net wrote: > Good morning, dear FreeBSD enthusiasts. I am attempting to install a > wireless network interface circuit on a computer running FreeBSD 9.1. I > have read the very thorough instructions written by Messrs. Marc > Fonvielle and Murray Stokely in the currently posted Chapter 30 of the > FreeBSD Handbook. I did not find in that chapter a specification of the > version or versions of FreeBSD to which it applied. The instructions are quite generic. The only specific name that you need to adjust is the driver for your actual hardware. > The circuit board is > manufactured by T-LInk, and uses an Atheros integrated circuit Check the output of the # pciconf -lv command to precisely see what hardware you have. Usually the correct driver will be mentioned. See the manpage of that driver for what chipsets or models it will support I don't have access to any WLAN hardware at the moment to I can't post an example, but it should be something like this: xl0@pci0:0:10:0: class=0x020000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x905010b7 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = '3COM Corp, Networking Division' device = 'Fast Etherlink XL PCI 10/100 (3C905B - Combo)' class = network subclass = ethernet In this case, "man xl" would be the manpage to examine. Note that this is an example from a wired NIC. Atheros chipsets will mostly work with the "ath" driver. By T-Link, you mean TP-Link? Or D-Link? What is the _exact_ brand name and model of the hardware in question? http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/hardware.html#WLAN Is it on that list? > I have > followed as closely as possible those instuctions, to no avail. Can you provide more information about what you did? What entries did you add to the relevant files (/boot/loader.conf and /etc/rc.conf, as well as /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf, if it should matter)? > The > printed circuit board is located at slot 4. About it, dmesg.boot reads > only the following: pci40: at device 0.0 (no driver attached). This seems to indicate that no driver is being loaded. Either you did not have the kernel load the correct driver, or there is no driver available. With the "pci40" information, check the pciconf output again. > My interpretation of this message is that the operating system sees that > there is a circuit board in slot 4, and that it has something to do with > networking, and otherwise knows nothing about it. Correct. Loading the appropriate driver is either done by the kernel (if it has been compiled with all required drivers) or by a loadable module, which has been specified in /boot/loader.conf to be loaded along with the kernel. > I have checked the > /dev directory, and find listed in it none of the driver files mentioned > in Chapter 30. Those device files will be created by the driver. > I had expected to receive error messages for lines in the > configuration files calling for driver files that could not be located, > but the only error message generated was "SYNCDHCP not found." This looks like a syntax error in /etc/rc.conf, I'd say. Can you quote the lines you added? > This line > does not occur in dmesg.boot, but in response to the command (I forgot > which command). The error is in relation to ifconfig, the control program for network interfaces. The dmesg.boot file typically contains kernel messages. > How do I obtain and install the missing driver files? You need to know which driver you have to load for this hardware. Usually drivers are provided by the operating system, but they are not loaded "as a wild guess". > Why does the fact that they are missing not generate error notices? If you decide not to attach some hardware, the OS won't complain. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 23 08:24:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3FE5D1D for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 08:24:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E0B83D11 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 08:24:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7N8O8Br065834 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 09:24:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s7N8O8Br065834 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s7N8O8Br065834; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral Message-ID: <53F84FA7.5010704@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 09:24:07 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More pkg issues .... References: <53F766ED.5010005@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <53F766ED.5010005@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="A3SmvEdhd88NW3mOMN1hLLnvsdhHLG99e" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 08:24:17 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --A3SmvEdhd88NW3mOMN1hLLnvsdhHLG99e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 22/08/2014 16:51, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >=20 >=20 > I just tried to install some stuff using pkg & got the following: >=20 >=20 > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:47:58am] 551 % pkg install enscript-a4-1.6.6_1= =20 > enscript-letter-1.6.6_1 enscript-letterdj-1.6.6_1 enscriptfonts-0.81_1= > zh-enscript-a4-1.6.6_1 > Updating repository catalogue > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date > All repositories are up-to-date > The following 11 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): >=20 > New packages to be INSTALLED: > enscript-a4: 1.6.6_1 > enscript-letter: 1.6.6_1 > enscript-letterdj: 1.6.6_1 > enscriptfonts: 0.81_1 > zh-enscript-a4: 1.6.6_1 > ghostscript9: 9.06_7 > libpaper: 1.1.24_2 > cups-image: 1.7.3_1 > svgalib: 1.4.3_7 > jbig2dec: 0.11_2 > zh-ttfm: 0.9.5_5 >=20 > The process will require 51 MB more space > 2 MB to be downloaded >=20 > Proceed with this action [y/N]: y > Fetching enscript-a4-1.6.6_1.txz: 100% of 315 kB > Fetching enscript-letter-1.6.6_1.txz: 100% of 316 kB > Fetching enscript-letterdj-1.6.6_1.txz: 100% of 316 kB > Fetching enscriptfonts-0.81_1.txz: 100% of 1 MB > Fetching zh-enscript-a4-1.6.6_1.txz: 100% of 316 kB > Fetching zh-ttfm-0.9.5_5.txz: 100% of 27 kB > Checking integrity... done (3 conflicting) > pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver: > cannot install package enscript-a4~print/enscript-a4, remove it from > request [Y/n]: y > cannot install package enscript-letter~print/enscript-letter, remove it= > from request [Y/n]: y > Checking integrity... done (1 conflicting) > pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver: > cannot install package enscript-letterdj~print/enscript-letterdj, remov= e > it from request [Y/n]: y > cannot install package zh-enscript-a4~chinese/enscript, remove it from > request [Y/n]: y > Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) > Conflicts with the existing packages have been found. > One more solver iteration is needed to resolve them. > The following 1 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): >=20 > New packages to be INSTALLED: > enscriptfonts: 0.81_1 >=20 > The process will require 3 MB more space >=20 > Proceed with this action [y/N]: > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:49:18am] 552 % >=20 >=20 > Pilot error ? pkg bug ? C'mon, enquiring minds wanna know ;-) .... >=20 >=20 Pilot error. You are trying to install packages that directly conflict with each other -- ie there are files they more than one of them claims ownership of. That doesn't work, and the packaging system quite sensibly stops you doing that. Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --A3SmvEdhd88NW3mOMN1hLLnvsdhHLG99e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJT+E+oXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATLUwP/2BIrF4MjqRi0qrKrA1wKSZ7 qLXjOBcI3+vjflw/lwvkNTS3cSfT8BaKBz/RzTAkOnnuNluBybX8mb3RPk1c5JHH QLjJwreYrBKUuy0R21F5A81SLssg5cRE2x4ukLMzd61YxAzFaq1jpQmRBy29Zcxn 26QBxQja1xbvYe966lEsyNcLPa7M90pxaaBT3RTg2O4/eP8FM9GL+VwKtw8grtet 9L3DW708YzQTEiKTl+ky/PDK2jT8YLlQw8uePFobRrQlRyo9LC4SK0S72cS6OSDo mB4pYgQ8P0PB237i8LjsbeswN/eS35CrQK4gBwHpRXDu9BTME8OVa8qnL1+1qrr1 eQ0aFsXwVN16vEKYsFF8vnk+m2/4HhkG3hpslmnzdUu2Pcm3LakLxGzmhsV3pH2/ mYBvJsHNgWnTuVSL9b4Goqzr4KJv3XR7RtCKJB6V7yeNIUyBA6xYSPWKfoahTod6 YCLcMReXxepsAc2N0xFYoB4maNpjrX5LRpr+RBoNaHl8cc8nljwBjHTnhYuDDtnZ +yH6cCuiJr/74NWDSDYYjnmxW5v7zvxKxYt3W2N4PiRE2IJilo5VaMbsrIoE8XAP WOmbifToJRVsegLVlXVi+fKKZpljJQaZAFzlDyn3TgMRBUUuCI1c6NCDnq7TBLtA HJ4QY2519XeyoxnvyluM =MXuI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --A3SmvEdhd88NW3mOMN1hLLnvsdhHLG99e-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 23 11:34:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2F6E1EC; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 11:34:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DFAF3AE6; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 11:34:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-19-23.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.23]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7NBYS8E011601 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 23 Aug 2014 06:34:29 -0500 Message-ID: <53F87DBB.5010406@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 06:40:43 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More pkg issues .... References: <53F766ED.5010005@hiwaay.net> <53F84FA7.5010704@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <53F84FA7.5010704@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 11:34:36 -0000 Hmmmmmm ....OK, but I don't think it tells me which pkgs conflict w/ which other pkgs (which may or may not help anything :-/) .... On 08/23/14 03:24, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 22/08/2014 16:51, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> I just tried to install some stuff using pkg & got the following: >> >> >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:47:58am] 551 % pkg install enscript-a4-1.6.6_1 >> enscript-letter-1.6.6_1 enscript-letterdj-1.6.6_1 enscriptfonts-0.81_1 >> zh-enscript-a4-1.6.6_1 >> Updating repository catalogue >> FreeBSD repository is up-to-date >> All repositories are up-to-date >> The following 11 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): >> >> New packages to be INSTALLED: >> enscript-a4: 1.6.6_1 >> enscript-letter: 1.6.6_1 >> enscript-letterdj: 1.6.6_1 >> enscriptfonts: 0.81_1 >> zh-enscript-a4: 1.6.6_1 >> ghostscript9: 9.06_7 >> libpaper: 1.1.24_2 >> cups-image: 1.7.3_1 >> svgalib: 1.4.3_7 >> jbig2dec: 0.11_2 >> zh-ttfm: 0.9.5_5 >> >> The process will require 51 MB more space >> 2 MB to be downloaded >> >> Proceed with this action [y/N]: y >> Fetching enscript-a4-1.6.6_1.txz: 100% of 315 kB >> Fetching enscript-letter-1.6.6_1.txz: 100% of 316 kB >> Fetching enscript-letterdj-1.6.6_1.txz: 100% of 316 kB >> Fetching enscriptfonts-0.81_1.txz: 100% of 1 MB >> Fetching zh-enscript-a4-1.6.6_1.txz: 100% of 316 kB >> Fetching zh-ttfm-0.9.5_5.txz: 100% of 27 kB >> Checking integrity... done (3 conflicting) >> pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver: >> cannot install package enscript-a4~print/enscript-a4, remove it from >> request [Y/n]: y >> cannot install package enscript-letter~print/enscript-letter, remove it >> from request [Y/n]: y >> Checking integrity... done (1 conflicting) >> pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver: >> cannot install package enscript-letterdj~print/enscript-letterdj, remove >> it from request [Y/n]: y >> cannot install package zh-enscript-a4~chinese/enscript, remove it from >> request [Y/n]: y >> Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) >> Conflicts with the existing packages have been found. >> One more solver iteration is needed to resolve them. >> The following 1 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): >> >> New packages to be INSTALLED: >> enscriptfonts: 0.81_1 >> >> The process will require 3 MB more space >> >> Proceed with this action [y/N]: >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:49:18am] 552 % >> >> >> Pilot error ? pkg bug ? C'mon, enquiring minds wanna know ;-) .... >> >> > Pilot error. You are trying to install packages that directly conflict > with each other -- ie there are files they more than one of them claims > ownership of. That doesn't work, and the packaging system quite > sensibly stops you doing that. > > Matthew > -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 23 11:41:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AE58BFD; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 11:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 232993BCA; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 11:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-19-23.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.23]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7NBfkdg014534 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 23 Aug 2014 06:41:47 -0500 Message-ID: <53F87F71.7050806@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 06:48:01 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More pkg issues .... References: <53F766ED.5010005@hiwaay.net> <53F84FA7.5010704@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <53F84FA7.5010704@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 11:41:49 -0000 I try a cut-down install & I get: [root@kabini1, /etc, 6:42:11am] 559 % pkg install enscript-a4-1.6.6_1 enscript-letter-1.6.6_1 Updating repository catalogue FreeBSD repository is up-to-date All repositories are up-to-date Checking integrity... done (1 conflicting) pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver: cannot install package enscript-a4~print/enscript-a4, remove it from request [Y/n]: cannot install package enscript-letter~print/enscript-letter, remove it from request [Y/n]: Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) The most recent version of packages are already installed [root@kabini1, /etc, 6:42:25am] 560 % However, apropos enscript shows nothing & find shows: [root@kabini1, /etc, 6:43:28am] 565 % find / -maxdepth 5 -name \*nscript\* -exec ls -ltrF {} + -rw-r--r-- 1 wam users 1628160 Mar 3 2002 /home/wam/tardist/fw_enscript-1.6.1.tardist -rw------- 1 wam users 152 Dec 14 2010 /home/wam/README.enscript.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 323336 Jul 18 06:35 /var/cache/pkg/enscript-a4-1.6.6_1-b04a15e3c3.txz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 323624 Jul 18 11:29 /var/cache/pkg/enscript-letter-1.6.6_1-9dc2065076.txz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1234796 Jul 18 17:22 /var/cache/pkg/enscriptfonts-0.81_1-7c27ae9193.txz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 323616 Jul 19 00:18 /var/cache/pkg/enscript-letterdj-1.6.6_1-0dcec44f42.txz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 324412 Aug 7 10:45 /var/cache/pkg/zh-enscript-a4-1.6.6_1-44444618ae.txz lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 34 Aug 22 10:48 /var/cache/pkg/enscript-a4-1.6.6_1.txz@ -> enscript-a4-1.6.6_1-b04a15e3c3.txz lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 38 Aug 22 10:48 /var/cache/pkg/enscript-letter-1.6.6_1.txz@ -> enscript-letter-1.6.6_1-9dc2065076.txz lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 40 Aug 22 10:48 /var/cache/pkg/enscript-letterdj-1.6.6_1.txz@ -> enscript-letterdj-1.6.6_1-0dcec44f42.txz lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 35 Aug 22 10:48 /var/cache/pkg/enscriptfonts-0.81_1.txz@ -> enscriptfonts-0.81_1-7c27ae9193.txz lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 37 Aug 22 10:48 /var/cache/pkg/zh-enscript-a4-1.6.6_1.txz@ -> zh-enscript-a4-1.6.6_1-44444618ae.txz /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/p5-Tk-Enscript: total 16 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 272 Jul 10 17:03 pkg-plist -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 110 Jul 10 17:03 pkg-descr -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 138 Jul 10 17:03 distinfo -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 497 Jul 10 17:03 Makefile /usr/ports/chinese/enscript: total 12 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 409 Jul 10 17:03 pkg-message drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 10 17:03 files/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 731 Jul 10 17:03 Makefile /usr/ports/print/enscriptfonts: total 24 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 8125 Jul 10 17:04 pkg-plist -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 353 Jul 10 17:04 pkg-descr drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 10 17:04 files/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 141 Jul 10 17:04 distinfo -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 752 Jul 10 17:04 Makefile /usr/ports/print/enscript-letterdj: total 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 287 Jul 10 17:04 Makefile /usr/ports/print/nenscript: total 20 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 100 Jul 10 17:04 pkg-plist -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 743 Jul 10 17:04 pkg-descr drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 10 17:04 files/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 141 Jul 10 17:04 distinfo -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 731 Jul 10 17:04 Makefile /usr/ports/print/enscript-letter: total 20 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3574 Jul 10 17:04 pkg-plist -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 379 Jul 10 17:04 pkg-descr drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 10 17:04 files/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 137 Jul 10 17:04 distinfo -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 862 Jul 10 17:04 Makefile /usr/ports/print/enscript-a4: total 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 275 Jul 10 17:04 Makefile /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdadminscripts: total 20 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 453 Jul 10 17:04 pkg-plist -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 386 Jul 10 17:04 pkg-descr drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 10 17:04 files/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 149 Jul 10 17:04 distinfo -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1309 Jul 10 17:04 Makefile [root@kabini1, /etc, 6:44:25am] 566 % i.e. packages downloaded but not installed & various references in ports .... What gives ? On 08/23/14 03:24, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 22/08/2014 16:51, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> I just tried to install some stuff using pkg & got the following: >> >> >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:47:58am] 551 % pkg install enscript-a4-1.6.6_1 >> enscript-letter-1.6.6_1 enscript-letterdj-1.6.6_1 enscriptfonts-0.81_1 >> zh-enscript-a4-1.6.6_1 >> Updating repository catalogue >> FreeBSD repository is up-to-date >> All repositories are up-to-date >> The following 11 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): >> >> New packages to be INSTALLED: >> enscript-a4: 1.6.6_1 >> enscript-letter: 1.6.6_1 >> enscript-letterdj: 1.6.6_1 >> enscriptfonts: 0.81_1 >> zh-enscript-a4: 1.6.6_1 >> ghostscript9: 9.06_7 >> libpaper: 1.1.24_2 >> cups-image: 1.7.3_1 >> svgalib: 1.4.3_7 >> jbig2dec: 0.11_2 >> zh-ttfm: 0.9.5_5 >> >> The process will require 51 MB more space >> 2 MB to be downloaded >> >> Proceed with this action [y/N]: y >> Fetching enscript-a4-1.6.6_1.txz: 100% of 315 kB >> Fetching enscript-letter-1.6.6_1.txz: 100% of 316 kB >> Fetching enscript-letterdj-1.6.6_1.txz: 100% of 316 kB >> Fetching enscriptfonts-0.81_1.txz: 100% of 1 MB >> Fetching zh-enscript-a4-1.6.6_1.txz: 100% of 316 kB >> Fetching zh-ttfm-0.9.5_5.txz: 100% of 27 kB >> Checking integrity... done (3 conflicting) >> pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver: >> cannot install package enscript-a4~print/enscript-a4, remove it from >> request [Y/n]: y >> cannot install package enscript-letter~print/enscript-letter, remove it >> from request [Y/n]: y >> Checking integrity... done (1 conflicting) >> pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver: >> cannot install package enscript-letterdj~print/enscript-letterdj, remove >> it from request [Y/n]: y >> cannot install package zh-enscript-a4~chinese/enscript, remove it from >> request [Y/n]: y >> Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) >> Conflicts with the existing packages have been found. >> One more solver iteration is needed to resolve them. >> The following 1 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): >> >> New packages to be INSTALLED: >> enscriptfonts: 0.81_1 >> >> The process will require 3 MB more space >> >> Proceed with this action [y/N]: >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:49:18am] 552 % >> >> >> Pilot error ? pkg bug ? C'mon, enquiring minds wanna know ;-) .... >> >> > Pilot error. You are trying to install packages that directly conflict > with each other -- ie there are files they more than one of them claims > ownership of. That doesn't work, and the packaging system quite > sensibly stops you doing that. > > Matthew > -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 23 12:00:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 069E84E7 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 12:00:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 716533CCF for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 12:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7NBxqgG053933 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 23 Aug 2014 12:59:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s7NBxqgG053933 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s7NBxqgG053933; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral Message-ID: <53F8822F.8030808@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 12:59:43 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More pkg issues .... References: <53F766ED.5010005@hiwaay.net> <53F84FA7.5010704@FreeBSD.org> <53F87F71.7050806@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <53F87F71.7050806@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="A8onIlQrBQ1vLbD1hwLvtB128cvTSbJ7s" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 12:00:03 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --A8onIlQrBQ1vLbD1hwLvtB128cvTSbJ7s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 23/08/2014 12:48, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > i.e. packages downloaded but not installed & various references in port= s > .... What gives ? >=20 It needs to download the packages to get the full manifest, which is when it can tell that the packages have conflicting files. Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More pkg issues .... References: <53F766ED.5010005@hiwaay.net> <53F84FA7.5010704@FreeBSD.org> <53F87F71.7050806@hiwaay.net> <53F8822F.8030808@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <53F8822F.8030808@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 12:04:23 -0000 Hmmmmm .... So some of the pkgs contain the same file in more than 1 pkg ? If so, that sounds like a pkg problem to some extent, either w/ packaging by the maintainer, or the logic within pkg, which ought to realize that it is the same file & let the install proceed .... On 08/23/14 06:59, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 23/08/2014 12:48, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> i.e. packages downloaded but not installed & various references in ports >> .... What gives ? >> > It needs to download the packages to get the full manifest, which is > when it can tell that the packages have conflicting files. > > Matthew > -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 23 12:25:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C860AE1 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 12:25:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F6CE3F8A for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 12:25:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop3.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop3.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.185]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 133052733C for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 22:17:59 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <53F88676.3060702@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 22:17:58 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 10 - mplayer issue Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 12:25:22 -0000 Yet another problem in the new install saga - thankfully I have a mostly useable machine now. This issue hasn't been a high priority on the list - until now. Mplayer won't run and I can't entertain myself :) Actually, its a bit more serious than that as I need it for work, and several other related tools use it too. After install I ran umplayer and it gave me nothing; so I ran mplayer at the cli and it did nothing - and I mean absolutely nothing. Even with -vvvv there is not a spot of output after the command is entered. So I ran truss, and didn't see anything useful there either. Then I looked at top to see if it was burning the cpu at all - nope. All I see is mplayer in a urdlck condition. Googling this points to an issue in 10 with posix compatibility and to avoid it in the application programming. Some ssh problems too. Any ideas what could be wrong? Or how to diagnose? Cheers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 23 12:58:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F7D353E for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 12:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FF3E31FA for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 12:58:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s7NCwVFP029991; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:58:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <53F88FF7.5000105@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:58:31 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael W. Lucas" , Anton Sayetsky Subject: Re: geli keyfile not loading at boot References: <20140820150557.GA90970@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> <20140820211307.GA92271@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> In-Reply-To: <20140820211307.GA92271@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 12:58:43 -0000 On 2014-08-20 23:13, Michael W. Lucas wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 06:10:51PM +0300, Anton Sayetsky wrote: >> 2014-08-20 18:05 GMT+03:00 Michael W. Lucas : >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have a default FreeBSD 10.0/amd64 install. >>> >>> I'm trying to make a GELI device attach at boot. I initialized the >>> partition with -b, and am prompted at boot. When I try to enter the >>> passphrase, I keep getting told that it's incorrect. Once I get into >>> multi-user mode and manually attach the device, it attaches just fine. >>> >>> It seems that GELI isn't finding my key file. >>> >>> My initial root partition is da0p2. The key is /boot/da1p1.key. The >>> GELI partition is da1p1. Here's my loader.conf: >>> >>> geom_eli_load=YES >>> geli_da1p1_keyfile0_load="YES" >> >> ->>> >>> geli_da1p1_keyfile0_type="da0p2:geli_da1p1_keyfile0" >> -<<< >> This is wrong. > > Thanks, Anton. This stuff is poorly documented. > >>From looking at > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-geom/2014-June/005944.html, > it looks like this should work, but it doesn't. > > geli_da1p1key_keyfile0_load="YES" > geli_da1p1key_keyfile0_type="da0p2:geli_keyfile0" > geli_da1p1key_keyfile0_name="/boot/da1p1.key" > boot_verbose=1 > > Any suggestions, folks? Is there a good explanation out there > anywhere? All I've found are PRs and very specific mailing list posts > aimed at specific situations. If I can figure out the general case, > I'll get it in the man page. This page is quite good. http://cb.vu/unixtoolbox.xhtml From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 23 13:19:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A193FCD1 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 13:19:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x22d.google.com (mail-la0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17B5333BC for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 13:19:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f45.google.com with SMTP id ty20so11099188lab.18 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 06:19:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=QgWN60azmCxHfr40a0uir1L6K/o292BmUg6XwAJFb9c=; b=BhRQjxX1gSrQ6zMuFuim35KTwQXeSp+mYfmAlCYNVkn80ngQ5+2oH4JpMR6WBuD/eD Mf/s8Lv2aX4HYb9/J6lt1wBMiR2m4jdcEUvAtEDfEubfJc27WbrcltmpOV4vRQJeJFzL 3SobTInDv4rRlMckxTjeg7bAuLTAGAM2Jqa6MmXQAzenTtDq1wxecoQ8ORueNLyGm/r3 cDlQvinPfScRJ0THxQCy9NPhj/N0fjIlqun0MNFd2mqAczYe5kNsgvpAxI/AEvy9CpUJ prJrELdtOeZwSg/W2vXNsiqqMBcSHVNhkFHNP9zmMf2rSnn8DwBnXNT0jEo22cVawWXC fSwg== X-Received: by 10.152.44.129 with SMTP id e1mr1454924lam.91.1408799987639; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 06:19:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: argiopeweb@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.145.193 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 06:19:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53F88676.3060702@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <53F88676.3060702@herveybayaustralia.com.au> From: Elliot Robinson Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 09:19:27 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: sshYy8pslJWfQiz5yMu6GIZUGXo Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10 - mplayer issue To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 13:19:50 -0000 Possibly orthogonal to your question, but is it an option to consider another product? MPV is an mplayer2 fork (which was [until development stalled] a fork of/drop-in replacement for mplayer), and seems to be pretty well supported on FreeBSD. It's pretty featureful (10-bit video and whatnot), and has a relatively fast development cycle (particularly compared to the crawl mplayer operates at), though it's at the expense of losing mencoder. Some of the command-line flags have been changed as well, which may require tweaking in your work-related tools (if they can be tweaked). Barring that, I'd recompile with debug flags and run in gdb/lldb. Wait till it locks, C-c, 'bt'. It's almost certainly some manner of deadlock if you're stuck in urdlck, which may be a bug in mplayer's threading or in pthreads. Either way, it'd help to know where the problem lock is. --- Elliot Robinson PGP Key: 9FEDE59A On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Da Rock < freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au> wrote: > Yet another problem in the new install saga - thankfully I have a mostly > useable machine now. > > This issue hasn't been a high priority on the list - until now. Mplayer > won't run and I can't entertain myself :) Actually, its a bit more serious > than that as I need it for work, and several other related tools use it too. > > After install I ran umplayer and it gave me nothing; so I ran mplayer at > the cli and it did nothing - and I mean absolutely nothing. Even with -vvvv > there is not a spot of output after the command is entered. > > So I ran truss, and didn't see anything useful there either. Then I looked > at top to see if it was burning the cpu at all - nope. All I see is mplayer > in a urdlck condition. > > Googling this points to an issue in 10 with posix compatibility and to > avoid it in the application programming. Some ssh problems too. > > Any ideas what could be wrong? Or how to diagnose? > > Cheers > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 23 13:59:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DA8B634 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 13:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7514236A3 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 13:59:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7NDxX8e062546 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:59:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s7NDxX8e062546 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s7NDxX8e062546; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral Message-ID: <53F89E3B.9080900@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:59:23 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More pkg issues .... References: <53F766ED.5010005@hiwaay.net> <53F84FA7.5010704@FreeBSD.org> <53F87F71.7050806@hiwaay.net> <53F8822F.8030808@FreeBSD.org> <53F884BB.5080607@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <53F884BB.5080607@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nckOte52JvBQ2N9QAtnRhfSX8HcWkjdDU" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 13:59:43 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --nckOte52JvBQ2N9QAtnRhfSX8HcWkjdDU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 23/08/2014 13:10, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > Hmmmmm .... So some of the pkgs contain the same file in more than 1 pk= g > ? If so, that sounds like a pkg problem to some extent, either w/ > packaging by the maintainer, or the logic within pkg, which ought to > realize that it is the same file & let the install proceed .... Not the *same* file, but the same file *name*... Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:09:47 -0000 --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 10:17:58PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > Yet another problem in the new install saga - thankfully I have a mostly= =20 > useable machine now. >=20 > This issue hasn't been a high priority on the list - until now. Mplayer= =20 > won't run and I can't entertain myself :) Actually, its a bit more=20 > serious than that as I need it for work, and several other related tools= =20 > use it too. >=20 > After install I ran umplayer and it gave me nothing; so I ran mplayer at= =20 > the cli and it did nothing - and I mean absolutely nothing. Even with=20 > -vvvv there is not a spot of output after the command is entered. For playing videos I would recommend using multimedia/mpv as a lightweight alternative or multimedia/vlc in case you want a full-blown GUI. Both require multimedia/ffmpeg (2.2 currently) which also works very well as an mencoder replacement. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT+KCgAAoJEED21dyjijPgVVIP/3g+MPij18bjvsmdUndE3qHs art2MqtkeUBuMtaIfWrqYdEMoM7Ze/vvVQUapL0eNtWphRx70yDcOxt/L7oqLCuv EU7nkPOwd3bLYJjDZg/SN4jbIQ+DGvKC2CwMalgJj3V8jLav3BUAGd55kojAD+sy GMnlVFVzNfMy6cZYKpXceNbHso0fTN7NuL/DrB6XOe+Pu6Ra0X1M68QM3nmVmjBm gYKw0vopgXGltcs/sg9QHs9ejfyz8FyY9MBDRikc7uhxQsC8IZybtWNEczsJdfvQ 1tY4BlpPbAubzJWxxMwuFM8N19WpvpixVJHGaOHJoQcwr6QnV/90LcPJ55ISwhvu o2KnLDxiE/QP1WNGYUJkm0B3X5A17V7gOM54b2xgyVQs+aZQWkKiAVDmXmjkj8Ip AVnvvIsEhPsFq+DbGe7yg4YOmFZNB5xKsOcMaSUzg95pfTSEvJuR+nOCj2BTtjPW 7pJyOj0XoDBDQrmkBUDMTLR35xQgd8f9M1Hw1UT9z/fSKVHKH0gl1Zi6UrTsC3kc We6r+4D/sH59VOHXfydmDV0U5K3TxFjGtdWWjFgavoqWdam5fHFEsYRHCTfIUv7v 0O4CM/8Joh7GMeg11rZyFIROXc5Iii5ND/Ou07Uxvb3TlWEZc7cOchE6sH3R1L1c zw2gx3g7xVC0e0JFvtmk =0FSg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 23 14:57:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D59D79D3; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8659E3BB0; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:57:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-19-23.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.23]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7NEv9m1026415 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 23 Aug 2014 09:57:10 -0500 Message-ID: <53F8AD3C.4060704@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 10:03:24 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: More pkg issues .... References: <53F766ED.5010005@hiwaay.net> <53F84FA7.5010704@FreeBSD.org> <53F87F71.7050806@hiwaay.net> <53F8822F.8030808@FreeBSD.org> <53F884BB.5080607@hiwaay.net> <53F89E3B.9080900@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <53F89E3B.9080900@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:57:12 -0000 agreed, /usr/bin/enscript, for example .... still seems like it should allow the install to proceed, or at least either prompt & proceed, or have a CL option to allow the install to proceed .... I think I am still missing something :-/ .... On 08/23/14 08:59, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 23/08/2014 13:10, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> Hmmmmm .... So some of the pkgs contain the same file in more than 1 pkg >> ? If so, that sounds like a pkg problem to some extent, either w/ >> packaging by the maintainer, or the logic within pkg, which ought to >> realize that it is the same file & let the install proceed .... > Not the *same* file, but the same file *name*... > > Matthew > -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 23 15:13:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F08616BA for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 15:13:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [213.184.43.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7AFE33D2B for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 15:13:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB4439823 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 18:04:18 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at post.raad.tartu.ee Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id kvK3yeW4i-VC for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 18:04:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix, from userid 80) id 33FEA3982B; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 18:04:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 176.192.196.88.dyn.estpak.ee (176.192.196.88.dyn.estpak.ee [88.196.192.176]) by webmail.raad.tartu.ee (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 18:04:13 +0300 Message-ID: <20140823180413.89336rp1oagf1kkg@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 18:04:13 +0300 From: Toomas Aas To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: KMS error while trying to switch user in KDE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.7) X-Originating-IP: 88.196.192.176 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 15:13:49 -0000 Hello! I have installed a new desktop machine with FreeBSD 10-STABLE amd64, xorg 1.12.4 and KDE 4.12.5. The system has ATI Radeon X1300/X1550 video card. Graphics is configured WITH_NEW_XORG (the default), vt and radeonkms are in use, video driver is xf86-video-ati-7.2.0_3 built WITH_GALLIUM. One thing that does not work is 'switch user' functionality in KDE. When attempting to start new session, the screen flashes briefly and then I am returned to active session with screen locked, which I can unlock and continue working. When looking at /var/log/kdm.log during the switch, it says that something is wrong with X.org: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fatal server error: no screens found Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help. Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.1.log" for additional information. Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ So I look at Xorg.1.log and it seems to indicate a problem related to KMS: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [ 431.280] (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) [ 431.280] (--) using VT number 10 [ 431.282] (II) [KMS] Kernel modesetting enabled. [ 431.282] (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support [ 431.282] (==) RADEON(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 [ 431.282] (II) RADEON(0): Pixel depth = 24 bits stored in 4 bytes (32 bpp pixmaps) [ 431.282] (==) RADEON(0): Default visual is TrueColor [ 431.282] (==) RADEON(0): RGB weight 888 [ 431.282] (II) RADEON(0): Using 8 bits per RGB (8 bit DAC) [ 431.282] (--) RADEON(0): Chipset: "ATI Radeon X1300/X1550" (ChipID = 0x7142) [ 431.283] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 [ 431.283] drmOpenDevice: open result is 7, (OK) [ 431.283] drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:02:00.0 [ 431.283] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 [ 431.283] drmOpenDevice: open result is 7, (OK) [ 431.283] drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 7 [ 431.283] drmOpenByBusid: Interface 1.4 failed, trying 1.1 [ 431.283] drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:02:00.0 [ 431.283] (EE) RADEON(0): [drm] failed to set drm interface version. [ 431.283] (EE) RADEON(0): Kernel modesetting setup failed [ 431.283] (II) UnloadModule: "radeon" [ 431.283] (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. [ 431.283] Fatal server error: [ 431.283] no screens found [ 431.283] Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help. [ 431.283] Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.1.log" for additional information. [ 431.283] [ 431.283] Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Can this problem be solved? -- Toomas Aas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 23 18:26:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9061133 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 18:26:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm19-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAD83F17 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 18:26:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.100.118] by nm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2014 18:23:30 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.6] by tm109.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2014 18:23:29 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2014 18:23:29 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 805748.12252.bm@omp1006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 95155 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Aug 2014 18:23:29 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1408818209; bh=rdK5MLsHkZ9EkRkBW6tsuu4QHmiOVxY6GZtcQXb83c4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=yqr4gSptDcWiYLGwpFue3hJ3Scbosbbe3N59gQcIpU3njP7VLrBhW7rq8JAz1crkX6AeIJpcieDQqvifTm0HxF50AQjuSsDltJhbuC6+qy45dlWRvA7/58tObM2sGpm1dheHoScV3TIVfTbBESfy2Los2UPk+je9HarKgjoPPqw= X-YMail-OSG: 71ZJuVYVM1k24kS5jqAd7S5OxixZ4WyKNXR_UrJ7s57pq2u uwuiTz340ZmywDUT321lcbtMX7CFizS8hyE4Uo7WSKGhyI_nbMorYK5EmtNW asc2_c1Z5QOJFYWh7eUN0_LYX6mDZLYSraXl99NimLWmIi_9.fpPh2LNDU_z rujh.9saEOOqAe5mzt2XJNvk8cIXf3VGtYnrdiuecwXINPyRJOdioXTTmO8f IAcWWzdO9GzM_.qjU6E21cIKMX0Nr_KfseNYli9Q7_FJmKWO.bSXMikIufCR cu90JmmqLoIVJZX50DZvXQUlvFP32Vb9c0PavndSc4uV6Wxj5k7rgHMLbx5c Ygc6a6VgWXwGCnBHb15ajnctWOFiCvUbArTbuBPohk5OufirOxoL3pn8t4o2 iub260JLXeM3j_dZjuqrLQDybepyDVI7vMdmqNhDBVs2Z3euGYDmeAAQKkta G1L9Fbn31RoQqA0qUQO59s3VMVy6jA0l_IDBHNIeIEWrFA8GB6zj060s4Qse Sa.tiM7DD5eKSqv6sR6ePGKpYLRHzuKX6DI47tig3vhPr0HouPYXm3oM3Rmp B.Lrj5viQk4.a2M9_8.65O5msLZuSEBH.nMrg0w-- Received: from [174.57.138.2] by web120305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 11:23:29 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001, UGF1bCwNCg0KVGhhbmsgeW91IGZvciB5b3VyIGhlbHAuICBJIGluc3RhbGxlZCBiaW5kIDkuOSBmcm9tIHRoZSBwb3J0cyBjb2xsZWN0aW9uIChpcyB0aGVyZSBhbnkgb3RoZXIgd2F5Pz8_KS4gIFRoZSBvbmx5IGNoYW5nZXMgSSBoYXZlIG1hZGUgdG8gdGhlIG5hbWVkLmNvbmYgZmlsZSBhcmUgdG8gYWRkIHRoZSBsb2dnaW5nIHNlY3Rpb24gYXMgeW91IGhhdmUgc3VnZ2VzdGVkLiAgVG8gbXkgYW1hemVtZW50LCBhZnRlciAyIGNvbnNlY3V0aXZlIHJlYm9vdHMsIG5hbWVkIGhhcyBzdGFydGVkIGNvcnJlY3QBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/713 YahooMailWebService/0.8.201.700 Message-ID: <1408818209.56025.YahooMailBasic@web120305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 11:23:29 -0700 From: Burton Sampley Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.0-R-p7 bind9.9 starting named on boot? To: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 18:26:07 -0000 Paul, Thank you for your help. I installed bind 9.9 from the ports collection (i= s there any other way???). The only changes I have made to the named.conf = file are to add the logging section as you have suggested. To my amazement= , after 2 consecutive reboots, named has started correctly. I'm stumped as= to why it would not start on boot before now, but I will not complain as l= ong as it remains consistent. root@fbsd:/var/log/named # /usr/sbin/pkg info | /usr/bin/grep bind bind99-9.9.5P1_2 BIND DNS suite with updated DNSSEC and DNS64 dbus-glib-0.100.2_1 GLib bindings for the D-BUS messaging system root@fbsd:/var/log/named # /usr/bin/uname -a FreeBSD fbsd.chicken.fish 10.0-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p7 #0: Tue J= ul 8 06:37:44 UTC 2014 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr= /src/sys/GENERIC amd64 root@fbsd:/var/log/named # Regards, -Burton -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 8/21/14, Paul Kraus wrote: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.0-R-p7 bind9.9 starting named on boot? To: "Burton Sampley" Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Date: Thursday, August 21, 2014, 9:26 PM =20 On Aug 21, 2014, at 21:01, Burton Sampley via freebsd-questions wrote: =20 > This issue is still unresolved.=C2=A0 Does anyone else have any suggestions? =20 Did you install bind 9.9 from ports or packages or build it yourself ? =20 I am running 10p7 with bind 9.10 installed from ports with no issues: =20 root@freebsd2:~ # uname -a FreeBSD freebsd2 10.0-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p7 #0: Tue Jul=C2=A0 8 06:37:44 UTC 2014=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/= GENERIC=C2=A0 amd64 root@freebsd2:~ # pkg info | grep bind bind910-9.10.0P2_3=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0BIND DNS suite with updated DNSSEC and DNS64 root@freebsd2:~ # cat /etc/rc.conf=20 hostname=3D"FreeBSD2" ifconfig_bge0=3D"inet snip netmask snip" defaultrouter=3D=E2=80=9Csnip" zfs_enable=3D"YES" sshd_enable=3D"YES" ntpd_enable=3D"YES" powerd_enable=3D"YES" dumpdev=3D"AUTO" named_enable=3D"YES" dhcpd_enable=3D"YES" # # Disable Sendmail sendmail_enable=3D"NO" sendmail_submit_enable=3D"NO" sendmail_outbound_enable=3D"NO" sendmail_msp_queue_enable=3D"NO" # Enable Postfix postfix_enable=3D"YES" root@freebsd2:~ #=20 =20 I have extensive bind logging configured (a holdover from when I used to manage DNS servers for a medium size company, a few thousand users), so I have detailed logs in /var/log/named. You may want to configure logging in named.conf as I have found that syslog does not always catch the bind startup messages you need to troubleshoot. Try this for troubleshooting (add to named.conf): =20 logging { =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 // we define channels as locations for logs to go ... =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 channel "syslog" { =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 syslog daemon; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 severity info; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 }; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 channel "info" { =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 file "/var/log/named/named.info" versions 10 size 1m; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 severity info; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 print-category yes; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 print-severity yes; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 print-time yes; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 }; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 // now we define the things to log and which channel to send them to =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 category "default" { =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 syslog; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 info; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 }; }; =20 That should put everything in both syslog and /var/log/named/named.info (make sure the /var/log/named directory is writable by the named user). You can crank the severity up to =E2=80=9Cdebug=E2=80=9D on the channel (I would not do that on the syslog channel) for even more detailed logs. =20 You can also try to start named with the -f -d options (from the command line). -f prevents to from detaching and demonizing, -d sets the debug level (higher numbers are more details debug info). I know your problem is a startup one, but I think you might find an odd error that is not a problem after the system has stabilized but may be an issue during the boot process. =20 -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 23 18:58:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0A7E132 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 18:58:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server1.shellworld.net (shellworld.net [69.60.117.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF45F321D for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 18:58:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server1.shellworld.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server1.shellworld.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42091228B7 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:58:47 -0400 (EDT) To: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Still Trying to do a Headless Installation. Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 13:58:47 -0500 From: "Martin G. McCormick" Message-Id: <20140823185847.42091228B7@server1.shellworld.net> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 18:58:54 -0000 I need to do a headless installation of FreeBSD9.1 to build a replacement server for an existing 9.1 system. After an attempt to make a bootable USB drive resulted in the world growing a couple of days older and no usable boot media, I fell back to the older procedure of modifying the ISO image which has it's own particular set of issues. I successfully mounted the image on a FreeBSD system and prepared to copy the file system now in /mnt to a read-write file system. Here is what I did as root based on the Advanced Installation section of the Handbook: # mkdir headless #tar -C headless -pvxf FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso A great spew erupts: usr/lib/libarchive.so.5: Can't create 'usr/lib/libarchive.so.5' usr/lib/libasn1.so.10: Can't create 'usr/lib/libasn1.so.10' usr/lib/libauditd.so.5: Can't create 'usr/lib/libauditd.so.5' and on and on, quite impressive. It looks like except for the libraries not being copied that the rest of the file system does un-tar. I remember in the past doing this same process with older FreeBSD versions and we also got warnings about some files being created in the wrong order but the images worked and were essentially the same size as the original image. Any ideas as to what is wrong, here? Thanks. This is turning in to a career in and of itself. Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 23 19:30:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D63C76BA for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 19:30:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8824D3540 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 19:30:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-37.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.37]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7NJUuCR027420 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:30:56 -0500 Message-ID: <53F8ED67.4020605@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:37:11 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Ghostscript question .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 19:30:58 -0000 .... can I pkg-install multiple versions of ghostscript on the same box ? Will they coexist properly ? I notice 3 major versions available, which is what prompts the question ..... TIA .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.