From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Sun Aug 30 06:17:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C475B9C078F for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 06:17:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samflanker@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22d.google.com (mail-wi0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62A04183F for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 06:17:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samflanker@gmail.com) Received: by wicfv10 with SMTP id fv10so36457337wic.1 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 23:17:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Hb5bohbNfeT2P+7bl9On5eezPYOcS4lqHDnmGpIXIPw=; b=qzzDMdqtaReunlQLq2rzLI0/KJfTlxt0OeKROtc7l9QMgoLPMhngal0cplEz1o0L+E SWabnTOv/fAnJuWhB9QAvDRnhcyYZoHIP1x5m5BV4YtNspv2z8q3AhDfW3GrLcmMEOM+ Da9qTdLcqTL79xMGomjutGgaT4Q92FwoMooXXbnHsKOwE1sN5kJrhwaWaKvkJGhg2pUL Baf0If2d5TKZwNOT7uGchohG24KBlHU/8QBaSlwk00JGJ0Hqez9IiUVxrutmskpyTExp kg535fV2/5USdRKJdpSRMSM8gLt1niD7y+6NdSo09FzNGmhsDmaLGz4KuaT3QP7Z9ter MMTA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.11.176 with SMTP id r16mr12592628wib.87.1440915426770; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 23:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.211.81 with HTTP; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 23:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 09:17:06 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Freeze during boot process on Intel S1200RP Board From: Vladimir Laskov To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 06:17:09 -0000 Hello, All. I have a problem on Intel S1200RP Board. boot process is freeze on boot stage how to repeat? 1. launch system reboot 2. wait to start kernel initialization stage 3. system freeze on kernel initialization stage screenshot here http://oi62.tinypic.com/33d8jz5.jpg please help me P.S. - if i reset system and boot linux, freebsd start without freeze -- Vladimir Laskov From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Sun Aug 30 06:32:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60FF29C60B3 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 06:32:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E96649D for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 06:32:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from tom.home (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kib.kiev.ua (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t7U6WgaE002901 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 30 Aug 2015 09:32:42 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua t7U6WgaE002901 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id t7U6Wgqg002900; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 09:32:42 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 09:32:42 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Vladimir Laskov Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freeze during boot process on Intel S1200RP Board Message-ID: <20150830063242.GF2072@kib.kiev.ua> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FREEMAIL_FROM,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on tom.home X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 06:32:49 -0000 On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 09:17:06AM +0300, Vladimir Laskov wrote: > Hello, All. > > I have a problem on Intel S1200RP Board. > > boot process is freeze on boot stage > > how to repeat? > > 1. launch system reboot > 2. wait to start kernel initialization stage > 3. system freeze on kernel initialization stage > > screenshot here > http://oi62.tinypic.com/33d8jz5.jpg > > please help me > > P.S. - if i reset system and boot linux, freebsd start without freeze Boot freebsd with bootverbose set and provide the full dmesg. From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Sun Aug 30 09:23:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA159C6BF3 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 09:23:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samflanker@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x235.google.com (mail-wi0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4921AE54 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 09:23:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samflanker@gmail.com) Received: by wicpl12 with SMTP id pl12so4624479wic.0 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 02:23:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=EQWlvWYzXSrvIziWQW065DQw6i8QMOmMRpMHRiGHXU0=; b=RYKGK+8+GYWgCYkmdHukV5xZvhTP8GGLCAuOnDCoP7PfKYMGjhmzYdan4xvjPl7CUb rVCWjbJqPu4lYLbalwZW1iP+qDsNyjvR5F3siGOWx7Wa+7omsKUDI/8eYUxMRW+mBdyz CbNeYPzzZRuN740/k9mroiXFo7jioOEPRhLXL0lwePf9s327O+UU66e0ZD1RrhhVjq4V P857SCbIBSisHn6HDe+C1EeXDPZ3jTQ5JN/NsM8DbGMJVSJ9lcLRkdIEF3heiLUvxBb6 NrKWyBwSFKjZKPKp5yo/NHQUvxGItQYEuM2CDEZoe8ZKQvcCMiiR7sMjuktomnjMOe3e dGvQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.231.40 with SMTP id td8mr14054225wic.9.1440926582599; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 02:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.211.81 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 02:23:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150830063242.GF2072@kib.kiev.ua> References: <20150830063242.GF2072@kib.kiev.ua> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 12:23:02 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Freeze during boot process on Intel S1200RP Board From: Vladimir Laskov To: Konstantin Belousov Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 09:23:04 -0000 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=GRpuHj4z the full dmesg output, when system is booted successfuly On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 09:17:06AM +0300, Vladimir Laskov wrote: > > Hello, All. > > > > I have a problem on Intel S1200RP Board. > > > > boot process is freeze on boot stage > > > > how to repeat? > > > > 1. launch system reboot > > 2. wait to start kernel initialization stage > > 3. system freeze on kernel initialization stage > > > > screenshot here > > http://oi62.tinypic.com/33d8jz5.jpg > > > > please help me > > > > P.S. - if i reset system and boot linux, freebsd start without freeze > > Boot freebsd with bootverbose set and provide the full dmesg. > From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Sun Aug 30 09:44:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFAF49C47D2 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 09:44:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 436E595A for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 09:44:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from tom.home (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kib.kiev.ua (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t7U9ieUJ047258 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 30 Aug 2015 12:44:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua t7U9ieUJ047258 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id t7U9ieut047257; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 12:44:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 12:44:40 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Vladimir Laskov Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freeze during boot process on Intel S1200RP Board Message-ID: <20150830094440.GG2072@kib.kiev.ua> References: <20150830063242.GF2072@kib.kiev.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FREEMAIL_FROM,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on tom.home X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 09:44:45 -0000 On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:23:02PM +0300, Vladimir Laskov wrote: > http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=GRpuHj4z > the full dmesg output, when system is booted successfuly Please, do the screen capture of the console for the unsucessful boot again, with the bootverbose enabled. From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Sun Aug 30 14:00:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194E19C6623 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 14:00:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samflanker@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x229.google.com (mail-wi0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A241E1905 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 14:00:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samflanker@gmail.com) Received: by wicpl12 with SMTP id pl12so8533367wic.0 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 07:00:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Jj4sb2WtO6aiZn653NX8N1GfywAekDHZgtcltksg0cs=; b=0F4V6tk5RW0fZMZH30+XSEHtt3eNJyaumJmsJ9yG5JUhP00jaaC8SNYKC05wtbXM5i Q2mkTcO0zsr2FdRR2NkAnpbVsttgaxx+MoTTC3oO4vzhtS2lGwaiAeTjtUyX4KB0ovdA 2jlTd0a6P5KtvlTciumZLn2c5pewvL2aPCTpDl/Tirr6L4bKPxDRjjjuVFwNaWTPrFl/ WWgJUkSBZmAqGu3rCp24fk1KywgEB+MJu6jwpTdGgy/5ZyzSBCnaP3TsSyr2CuetCZAR 0CXaVG+z4UgJg32fIfisXpoe1N+Sw4nCUgOtDtV3EmeWT/5v97nx+Q8cGSsv23EHljTL fupA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.12.145 with SMTP id y17mr14319209wib.87.1440943243328; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 07:00:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.211.81 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 07:00:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150830094440.GG2072@kib.kiev.ua> References: <20150830063242.GF2072@kib.kiev.ua> <20150830094440.GG2072@kib.kiev.ua> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 17:00:43 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Freeze during boot process on Intel S1200RP Board From: Vladimir Laskov To: Konstantin Belousov Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 14:00:46 -0000 full verbose on freezy screen not different with first screenshot On Sunday, August 30, 2015, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:23:02PM +0300, Vladimir Laskov wrote: > > http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=GRpuHj4z > > the full dmesg output, when system is booted successfuly > Please, do the screen capture of the console for the unsucessful boot > again, > with the bootverbose enabled. > From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Sun Aug 30 15:16:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA099C65B3 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 15:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FCB0DDB for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 15:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from tom.home (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kib.kiev.ua (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t7UFG17m025310 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:16:01 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua t7UFG17m025310 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id t7UFG1UB025304; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:16:01 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:16:00 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Vladimir Laskov Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Freeze during boot process on Intel S1200RP Board Message-ID: <20150830151600.GH2072@kib.kiev.ua> References: <20150830063242.GF2072@kib.kiev.ua> <20150830094440.GG2072@kib.kiev.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FREEMAIL_FROM,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on tom.home X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 15:16:08 -0000 On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 05:00:43PM +0300, Vladimir Laskov wrote: > full verbose on freezy screen not different with first screenshot It cannot be. At very least, verbose dmesg must include the cache parameters. > > On Sunday, August 30, 2015, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:23:02PM +0300, Vladimir Laskov wrote: > > > http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=GRpuHj4z > > > the full dmesg output, when system is booted successfuly > > Please, do the screen capture of the console for the unsucessful boot > > again, > > with the bootverbose enabled. > > From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Aug 31 03:06:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CDA9C6227 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 03:06:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6F6B23 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 03:06:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id DB9A69C6226; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 03:06:48 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2AFA9C6225 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 03:06:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (mx.catwhisker.org [198.144.209.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96257B22 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 03:06:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id t7V36dtX008866 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 20:06:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id t7V36dHx008865 for hackers@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 20:06:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 20:06:39 -0700 From: David Wolfskill To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Puzzle involving serial console and ...??!? Message-ID: <20150831030639.GH1153@albert.catwhisker.org> Reply-To: hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HuscSE0D68UGttcd" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 03:06:49 -0000 --HuscSE0D68UGttcd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I may be going mad -- that's likely the simplest explanation, and Occam's Razor would thus indicate that this hypothesis should be accorded a degree of plausibility, at least. As described in , I have my own quirky ways of upgrading FreeBSD systems, the basics of which remain fundamentally unchanged for the last dozen years (well, a few more than that, but...). In turn, much of that approach was borrowed from one of my pre-FreeBSD experiences in an IBM mainframe environment (as a "systems programmer"). What's causing me to question my tenuous grasp of reality is this: Referencing the above-cited Web page, my build machine ("freebeast") normally runs headless, and I use a cable to connect its serial port to the serial port of one of my other machines ("albert"). By doing so, I have a working serial console (once the FreeBSD loader gains control from the BIOS, at least)... half the time. I have determined that whether or not I have a functioning serial console for freebeast depends on whether I boot albert from slice 1 or slice 2: if from slice 1, it doesn't work; if from slice 2, it does. Even when the contents of the 2 slices are functionally equivalent (that is, the file systems of the 2 slices are as "the same" as a "dump 0Lf | restore" pipeline can make them, except for a deliberate difference in the contents of /etc/fstab (as the root and /usr file systems are on different slices in the two cases)). I use tip(1) on albert to access the serial port (as I have since 1998); I leave the speed at the default of 9600 because it has -- save for this case -- always worked for me in the past. Does anyone have any suggestions for figuring out what is really going on here? While I can't just reboot "albert," I have another (similar) machine ("pogo") that I use for testing stuff that I plan to do to albert, and I could easily connect teh serial cable to pogo instead of albert and tinker with that. Thanks. I'm on the list, so list replies need not Cc: me. Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Those who would murder in the name of God or prophet are blasphemous coward= s. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --HuscSE0D68UGttcd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJV48S/XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ4RThEMDY4QTIxMjc1MDZFRDIzODYzRTc4 QTY3RjlDOERFRjQxOTNCAAoJEIpn+cje9Bk7ROMP/iX3H4eQcykJcotlnt3utqsf xZrb8PaduykO7cgFENTNhsE/JKYgUojScyJKpppzHYM+M+seg8c1b36FYIN9Kuwj HLaSjRYUu8LYn9ub03a4pRHOO5G7X0Dao6O/6BYNLu6jwpvN+ISAg8xpMfHoTzXI rAo/M4HppIlHooD3+d4QV5bFt6dVEEKjSY9cFXi8/pDtnWAl+WqbmAf7huPmGUNF l+e5EyxCYseguHUPp3r7W1GPiMNKL7CA3KBIUTmdvJgRwxL+w32ocRocVWFPjj+F VfuASPjCoytFW6vSsJVoZ3CihxsxWB0/TW3zlQNDf9ehfbPJ1JkyYsMqKIgVWs7e VARN8ThzwNjc+HeXqiCeHfnH8SxJZHGY7/uZQYcO867GtrIIj8VhvLBKlK3/TPXs g3q/4wREtsmUye/Dza4kGAJqdgkykfT5NY6Hejkzdp33GGdqM1+twZrTg5rAFlpE PkSS3hGFmKVsMj8wmT/JlR5bTwdegRRT9FQZ5pQALFPBwByuFN2u3UJnbDoAUVGd irZ2TwNDgHUJykygN2R1TZIVMcBJHUzQ0QNWj+5gCKEX2+LwHIAQbqMVvnqfpluF NMTWT5EF9wd4tjQm/0iMC39e8FXXKrN1feLl4aiwnSkkUbp/PHKT6caC/2KuPcTm aHJ32VVgYpRMH6Awbktp =SD1j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HuscSE0D68UGttcd-- From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Aug 31 06:24:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B9E9C7CF7 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92122E9 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id C61529C7CF3; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:24:52 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABCE09C7CEE for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from kabab.cs.huji.ac.il (kabab.cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.116.210]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 653952E8 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from mbpro-w.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.80.91]) by kabab.cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp id 1ZWITr-000PT5-PA for hackers@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:24:49 +0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: Puzzle involving serial console and ...??!? From: Daniel Braniss In-Reply-To: <20150831030639.GH1153@albert.catwhisker.org> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:22:11 +0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20150831030639.GH1153@albert.catwhisker.org> To: hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:24:53 -0000 > On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:06 AM, David Wolfskill = wrote: >=20 > I may be going mad -- that's likely the simplest explanation, and > Occam's Razor would thus indicate that this hypothesis should be > accorded a degree of plausibility, at least. >=20 > As described in = , > I have my own quirky ways of upgrading FreeBSD systems, the basics > of which remain fundamentally unchanged for the last dozen years > (well, a few more than that, but...). In turn, much of that approach > was borrowed from one of my pre-FreeBSD experiences in an IBM > mainframe environment (as a "systems programmer"). >=20 > What's causing me to question my tenuous grasp of reality is this: > Referencing the above-cited Web page, my build machine ("freebeast") > normally runs headless, and I use a cable to connect its serial > port to the serial port of one of my other machines ("albert"). >=20 > By doing so, I have a working serial console (once the FreeBSD > loader gains control from the BIOS, at least)... half the time. >=20 > I have determined that whether or not I have a functioning serial > console for freebeast depends on whether I boot albert from slice > 1 or slice 2: if from slice 1, it doesn't work; if from slice 2, > it does. >=20 > Even when the contents of the 2 slices are functionally equivalent > (that is, the file systems of the 2 slices are as "the same" as a > "dump 0Lf | restore" pipeline can make them, except for a deliberate > difference in the contents of /etc/fstab (as the root and /usr file > systems are on different slices in the two cases)). >=20 > I use tip(1) on albert to access the serial port (as I have since > 1998); I leave the speed at the default of 9600 because it has -- > save for this case -- always worked for me in the past. >=20 > Does anyone have any suggestions for figuring out what is really > going on here? While I can't just reboot "albert," I have another > (similar) machine ("pogo") that I use for testing stuff that I plan > to do to albert, and I could easily connect teh serial cable to > pogo instead of albert and tinker with that. >=20 the simplest way to check the serial, use a paper clip, and jump 2 & 3, this will loop the xmit to the receiver, and thus make sure that at least albert side is ok, no matter the baud rate. newer freebsd have changed the way the serial port is treated! In our case things got complicated, since the serial settings were passed via DHCP and that stopped working - the problem has now been fixed, so I will try and come with the correct magics soon. We use com2 for the serial (also for serial over lan) and every new version I have to go through many loops till all is working again. so I guess you have not lost all your marbles yet :-) danny > Thanks. I'm on the list, so list replies need not Cc: me. >=20 > Peace, > david > --=20 > David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org > Those who would murder in the name of God or prophet are blasphemous = cowards. >=20 > See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Aug 31 06:35:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97ED9C427F for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:35:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B10DDB for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:35:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 95BAB9C427D; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:35:51 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5B29C427C for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:35:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x233.google.com (mail-pa0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DBEDDDA for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:35:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: by pabzx8 with SMTP id zx8so128962301pab.1 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:35:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=V6L79BJZtErcYwMQiDJ882I0vY60QxDJqFQ0mulFglQ=; b=gpcLhOqMt9/sMZ+OZo9yjEm/DHOl/fMl/Q+JbG6ytP+q/j0mGxth3Cly35kT7x18c8 HaxLj7qgxZb+3aBTJPDofblOfF+HPZV3m8xvh5FtnTfT+aAjZ5pjpbtBTVAVAHKIjYJ1 wIXluJdfWf3fIDu+E3PCjW7fw8AvTRlcfum3LfK5iLnGW09whwo/8iRlP/xvdNGY4zMo ygj25i1UsSYPbCSb4Jnk2WTAqV2bu7ggyHQr3Xw0UHKun36FZoe7v+U6ZRXBsNXWeeq8 Rk6X9+/uTXzCGagGVBbgFxLKFIK4+65SLVzu4vCdmV0YbkWeE4pdSf21Bh4Zca2vPD5I si9A== X-Received: by 10.66.222.103 with SMTP id ql7mr34108312pac.144.1441002950720; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2601:601:800:126d:919d:8454:1cf6:d1a2? 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From: Garrett Cooper In-Reply-To: <20150831030639.GH1153@albert.catwhisker.org> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:35:49 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20150831030639.GH1153@albert.catwhisker.org> To: hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:35:51 -0000 > On Aug 30, 2015, at 20:06, David Wolfskill = wrote: >=20 > I may be going mad -- that's likely the simplest explanation, and > Occam's Razor would thus indicate that this hypothesis should be > accorded a degree of plausibility, at least. >=20 > As described in = , > I have my own quirky ways of upgrading FreeBSD systems, the basics > of which remain fundamentally unchanged for the last dozen years > (well, a few more than that, but...). In turn, much of that approach > was borrowed from one of my pre-FreeBSD experiences in an IBM > mainframe environment (as a "systems programmer"). >=20 > What's causing me to question my tenuous grasp of reality is this: > Referencing the above-cited Web page, my build machine ("freebeast") > normally runs headless, and I use a cable to connect its serial > port to the serial port of one of my other machines ("albert"). >=20 > By doing so, I have a working serial console (once the FreeBSD > loader gains control from the BIOS, at least)... half the time. >=20 > I have determined that whether or not I have a functioning serial > console for freebeast depends on whether I boot albert from slice > 1 or slice 2: if from slice 1, it doesn't work; if from slice 2, > it does. >=20 > Even when the contents of the 2 slices are functionally equivalent > (that is, the file systems of the 2 slices are as "the same" as a > "dump 0Lf | restore" pipeline can make them, except for a deliberate > difference in the contents of /etc/fstab (as the root and /usr file > systems are on different slices in the two cases)). >=20 > I use tip(1) on albert to access the serial port (as I have since > 1998); I leave the speed at the default of 9600 because it has -- > save for this case -- always worked for me in the past. >=20 > Does anyone have any suggestions for figuring out what is really > going on here? While I can't just reboot "albert," I have another > (similar) machine ("pogo") that I use for testing stuff that I plan > to do to albert, and I could easily connect teh serial cable to > pogo instead of albert and tinker with that. >=20 > Thanks. I'm on the list, so list replies need not Cc: me. David, Not sure what hardware you=E2=80=99re dealing with, but it = doesn=E2=80=99t necessarily sound like a firmware bug; it would be = helpful to determine what you=E2=80=99re running though=E2=80=A6 ran = into issues with Dell r710s in the past where not having the right = formula of firmware caused the machine to have quirky interactions on = the serial console. Cheers, -NGie= From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Aug 31 06:53:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C00C9C4C0A for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:53:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieterbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614FC14A3 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:53:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieterbsd@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 5E4609C4C09; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:53:11 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDAE9C4C07 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:53:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieterbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x234.google.com (mail-ig0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F47A14A2 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:53:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieterbsd@gmail.com) Received: by igboj15 with SMTP id oj15so18518052igb.1 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:53:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BuUymr7A0gGdMjMj+zL3DWFeQ/tIK+bL/oAx+MARoUU=; b=MUhCFrXmGaDgB2+/vkGxxL1C1lfFJVCVbAYY/AoMMvCZOjEwysZD1yIaqw1OI4p1eP BTALNWBvL5ZhFPiwG/eOTPFJe6WbUaqKSSH8DvMCokoWWpvHR9kjh89kBGEg9DyJYhxf Eom4OI9S7cWPj9+KfnUuw9C0XqPzUiZvBf33vh0KR9dNn97JLBSwI3VqE/wvhlQa6Wsz rL6prbyNkRXr9QEFZoirrofUbw2E2cJEnGrjo6vHdPHttcvj8Y1iGyepV7MX7q6yzSnV kmBmrcCiAaJZJhKO69st20BAff5j4ZDX31t/WKoZYFw2aps0M0BBc9mX1qbZKv1kMoF2 gYXA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.66.197 with SMTP id h5mr12033228igt.82.1441003990557; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.2.132 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:53:10 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Puzzle involving serial console and ...??!? From: Dieter BSD To: hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:53:11 -0000 > I have determined that whether or not I have a functioning serial > console for freebeast depends on whether I boot albert from slice > 1 or slice 2: if from slice 1, it doesn't work; if from slice 2, > it does. > > Even when the contents of the 2 slices are functionally equivalent > (that is, the file systems of the 2 slices are as "the same" as a > "dump 0Lf | restore" pipeline can make them, except for a deliberate > difference in the contents of /etc/fstab (as the root and /usr file > systems are on different slices in the two cases)). You could verify that the 2 slices are *really* the same with find(1) and cmp(1). (both root and /usr) You could compare the boot messages in /var/log to see if there are any differences. Are there any pesky error messages on the console or in /var/log? You could try cu(1) instead of tip and see if the same thing happens. When it doesn't work, what, exactly, happens differently? Obviously, albert has an intermittent connection, and booting from a different part of the disk causes different vibrations, which causes the connection to either short or open. What's that? SSD? Never mind. :-) From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Aug 31 07:54:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78689C6FE1 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 07:54:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from larry.maloney@hackerdojo.com) Received: from mail-la0-f47.google.com (mail-la0-f47.google.com [209.85.215.47]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B78F12C0 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 07:54:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from larry.maloney@hackerdojo.com) Received: by lanb10 with SMTP id b10so30595532lan.2 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 00:54:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=GmyLCRg//EppownElLFbRS58JtUc9fKD3rMaMhVBl9o=; b=UbuM0mFEVkDzZ98S7WkKsKjCqaCOaCmzPsaxgWgCFtrlDNcEYLXhRSe03QO7zQFJvc r6jucNvRpWX4Rpc82Ed2HT7ZesJZMUScILdCwD0fcywRzSC3aUTs//bV5DQ4eyGAgK6o IL6eAMS1UAQye77zkAiZ5GcLhR8dvos+KvNwpx6ee38uLhMOEzUsoXr6K1XCvuM3wb4m eAhs9hqwR0BnRa3ZgB86BBpNpY5AzgRRKHIfPW3na+ujw75/Fj057ccsYA3M1uzbjNB6 u2ClwqaXoO1CE2CGbCFq7AhbEb7msWj2tqADX8cSMse7m7LKbzU3xy8Rj8lGGwT0vM/z QvoA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnaNgpcL8sLGv4kRPAlbwzFYgtShlrSK32hlqfaDrpWf0CS2mE3nfUo5zR1gGxBPFU+tpR1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.142.6 with SMTP id rs6mr9733146lbb.18.1441007664117; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 00:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.83.196 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 00:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: larry.maloney@hackerdojo.com Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 00:54:24 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Hi! From: Larry Maloney To: Freebsd hackers list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 07:54:32 -0000 Well, after years of wondering what you guys meant by "on the mailing list", I finally found out. :) WOOT! :) /Larry -- Thank you! Larry P. Maloney, "Come to the Dojo." Become a member: http://signup.hackerdojo.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/larrymaloney Cell: 408-893-0294 From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Aug 31 07:57:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D359C61AA for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 07:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timp87@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22b.google.com (mail-wi0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 035891520; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 07:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timp87@gmail.com) Received: by widfa3 with SMTP id fa3so15379859wid.1; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 00:57:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ilWu1fBvdDmdSicF9mX2coMYwIFuG9gHBxK7J1MTsAc=; b=ROe0IPPfMUemiMmWaVTPdcsQRsr0KcvWbkcqOzkciAr34Jki1RGYtv0fy6LBfONZa5 HQYgy1JKEa46cExW6CFJmwN8FCh8z/B0U5CjmIeEc+AlxqBfzLSTRfF/TdDfq/k2Q3BK z70WFPtRJ0zd72fDsPS9WD6oNvEmIL3WZSAZvNvIY+3gPxW8UIHK1tucy851/Z7QC9Ed mkG9pxzYMhT2zbN5MHDAhMkk33SBDcR1NxFl7GzshI6eUjti3eE/rUuaDkyEBf9HgUIa 4cZ6ocJzDiZXkAxv+HLziSzCEe/Lw/O+uiLyMsYr+O6efwu1o8rZylATjFMhFIiG7BiP It4g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.2.9 with SMTP id 9mr24731001wjq.95.1441007847546; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 00:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.9.195 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 00:57:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55E1803E.7080706@freebsd.org> References: <55DF261C.80009@freebsd.org> <20150827200534.GH16003@e-new.0x20.net> <55E086D3.1040700@freebsd.org> <55E1803E.7080706@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:57:27 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to control and setup service? From: Pavel Timofeev To: Stefan Esser Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 07:57:29 -0000 2015-08-29 12:49 GMT+03:00 Stefan Esser : > Am 28.08.2015 um 18:51 schrieb Pavel Timofeev: >> Sorry for top posting! It's pretty hard to write email walking under >> heavy rain and umbrella. >> So, I talked about special key, not default behaviour. >> Let me give you an example. >> You got a server (or ten) which was/were somehow configured before you. >> You want to reconfigure it/them. You don't care how and where it's >> already configured, you just want to set particular rcvars and be sure >> that no other rcvars are set. >> >> Before you came it was: >> mysql_enable="YES/NO" # no matter >> mysql_datadir="/mycozystorage/db/mysql" >> mysql_defaults_extra_file="/mycozystorage/mysql/my.cnf" >> mysql_plugin_dir="/somewhere/lib/mysql/plugin" >> mysql_log_error="/mycozystorage/db/mysql/hostname.err" >> >> then you run something like (look at -k key) >> # service -k mysql-server enable set datadir "/mysqldb" log_error >> "/mysqllogs/hostname.err" >> it becomes >> mysql_enable="YES" >> mysql_datadir="/mysqldb" >> mysql_log_error="/mysqllogs/hostname.err" >> >> I. e. sets what requested and deletes rcvars which was not requested. > > I think that the removal of the previous config state should not come > as the side-effect of some "set" command. > > I'd rather introduce a now verb for this purpose, which has the effect > of clearing all previous settings for a service, instead of overloading > the "set" operation. BTW, it's already suggested here https://reviews.freebsd.org/D451 it's rcdelete. Not sure if it's good name. > > E.g.: > > # service mysql-server clearconfig > > Not sure about the best command name to use, it could also be "clean" > or "initconfig" or "defaultconfig". The semantics is that all the > rc.conf assignments for thise service are removed (including the > enable line) and the defaults from defaults/rc.conf become effective > again. > > Regards, STefan From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Aug 31 07:59:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A54299C6303 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 07:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timp87@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x231.google.com (mail-wi0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FF0A176C; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 07:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timp87@gmail.com) Received: by wicpl12 with SMTP id pl12so19608368wic.1; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 00:59:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=JLuHhuzP+6Y+Swhy6DOfl/92YMkukLYKo2Etfrj6CRs=; b=cucLpho6liQbGiOFJbEGb8z9mQ+xDU1yyZuzjfVfVWGApi/D07GgccgpuYQieVvHCh VcDMek7tDmijKqQH9Jt4wf/G6KYWxKzHGXxv8qc6kQhXfJrI3wUGnIF5VCC/wqzvmTBW 4ZrF7stP6LjSgNGvIgvXUGOV003IuwRfZxhBirULPKt++37Z1VbzPbBm6EgycM/d07Rn eF7wKdJycoPzYJrwpGZtlga55esCU31tQp18uMEllWfrd58tGgLhTBIP7NTZmHETYvGS S/fhFFItBehTovgKoc8T8k01a6YkBpN+6IMLemGMy46dLGlxjL/VAK4yvyDj+A0Md/UL cT+w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.172.233 with SMTP id bf9mr25741123wjc.107.1441007944841; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 00:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.9.195 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 00:59:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55E1CA2D.5020203@freebsd.org> References: <55DF261C.80009@freebsd.org> <20150827200534.GH16003@e-new.0x20.net> <55E086D3.1040700@freebsd.org> <55E1803E.7080706@freebsd.org> <55E1CA2D.5020203@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:59:04 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to control and setup service? From: Pavel Timofeev To: Allan Jude Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 07:59:06 -0000 2015-08-29 18:05 GMT+03:00 Allan Jude : > On 2015-08-29 05:49, Stefan Esser wrote: >> Am 28.08.2015 um 18:51 schrieb Pavel Timofeev: >>> Sorry for top posting! It's pretty hard to write email walking under >>> heavy rain and umbrella. >>> So, I talked about special key, not default behaviour. >>> Let me give you an example. >>> You got a server (or ten) which was/were somehow configured before you. >>> You want to reconfigure it/them. You don't care how and where it's >>> already configured, you just want to set particular rcvars and be sure >>> that no other rcvars are set. >>> >>> Before you came it was: >>> mysql_enable="YES/NO" # no matter >>> mysql_datadir="/mycozystorage/db/mysql" >>> mysql_defaults_extra_file="/mycozystorage/mysql/my.cnf" >>> mysql_plugin_dir="/somewhere/lib/mysql/plugin" >>> mysql_log_error="/mycozystorage/db/mysql/hostname.err" >>> >>> then you run something like (look at -k key) >>> # service -k mysql-server enable set datadir "/mysqldb" log_error >>> "/mysqllogs/hostname.err" >>> it becomes >>> mysql_enable="YES" >>> mysql_datadir="/mysqldb" >>> mysql_log_error="/mysqllogs/hostname.err" >>> >>> I. e. sets what requested and deletes rcvars which was not requested. >> >> I think that the removal of the previous config state should not come >> as the side-effect of some "set" command. >> >> I'd rather introduce a now verb for this purpose, which has the effect >> of clearing all previous settings for a service, instead of overloading >> the "set" operation. >> >> E.g.: >> >> # service mysql-server clearconfig >> >> Not sure about the best command name to use, it could also be "clean" >> or "initconfig" or "defaultconfig". The semantics is that all the >> rc.conf assignments for thise service are removed (including the >> enable line) and the defaults from defaults/rc.conf become effective >> again. >> >> Regards, STefan >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > I agree that that is a better design, as I would almost never actually > want to remove those extra settings, and if it happened unexpectedly, I > would be quite upset. I suggested special key for that, so it can't happen unexpectedly, IMO. > > -- > Allan Jude > From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Aug 31 10:02:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1A39C7002 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D091FCD for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 502BC9C7001; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB739C6FFF for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from kabab.cs.huji.ac.il (kabab.cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.116.210]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 081CB1FCB for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from mbpro-w.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.80.91]) by kabab.cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp id 1ZWLul-0003kH-Qq for hackers@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:02:11 +0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: Puzzle involving serial console and ...??!? From: Daniel Braniss In-Reply-To: <20150831030639.GH1153@albert.catwhisker.org> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:02:11 +0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20150831030639.GH1153@albert.catwhisker.org> To: hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:02:20 -0000 > On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:06 AM, David Wolfskill = wrote: >=20 > I may be going mad -- that's likely the simplest explanation, and > Occam's Razor would thus indicate that this hypothesis should be > accorded a degree of plausibility, at least. >=20 > As described in = , > I have my own quirky ways of upgrading FreeBSD systems, the basics > of which remain fundamentally unchanged for the last dozen years > (well, a few more than that, but...). In turn, much of that approach > was borrowed from one of my pre-FreeBSD experiences in an IBM > mainframe environment (as a "systems programmer"). >=20 > What's causing me to question my tenuous grasp of reality is this: > Referencing the above-cited Web page, my build machine ("freebeast") > normally runs headless, and I use a cable to connect its serial > port to the serial port of one of my other machines ("albert"). >=20 > By doing so, I have a working serial console (once the FreeBSD > loader gains control from the BIOS, at least)... half the time. >=20 > I have determined that whether or not I have a functioning serial > console for freebeast depends on whether I boot albert from slice > 1 or slice 2: if from slice 1, it doesn't work; if from slice 2, > it does. >=20 > Even when the contents of the 2 slices are functionally equivalent > (that is, the file systems of the 2 slices are as "the same" as a > "dump 0Lf | restore" pipeline can make them, except for a deliberate > difference in the contents of /etc/fstab (as the root and /usr file > systems are on different slices in the two cases)). >=20 > I use tip(1) on albert to access the serial port (as I have since > 1998); I leave the speed at the default of 9600 because it has -- > save for this case -- always worked for me in the past. >=20 > Does anyone have any suggestions for figuring out what is really > going on here? While I can't just reboot "albert," I have another > (similar) machine ("pogo") that I use for testing stuff that I plan > to do to albert, and I could easily connect teh serial cable to > pogo instead of albert and tinker with that. >=20 the simplest way to check the serial, use a paper clip, and jump 2 & 3, this will loop the xmit to the receiver, and thus make sure that at least albert side is ok, no matter the baud rate. newer freebsd have changed the way the serial port is treated! We use com2 for the serial (also for serial over lan) and every new version I have to go through many loops till all is working again. > Thanks. I'm on the list, so list replies need not Cc: me. >=20 > Peace, > david > --=20 > David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org > Those who would murder in the name of God or prophet are blasphemous = cowards. >=20 > See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Aug 31 13:00:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDE39C7343 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:00:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553AD8D3 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:00:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 546DC9C7342; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:00:27 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540B59C7340 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:00:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FA1B8D2 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:00:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t7VD0IxB047310 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 07:00:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t7VD0Ib9047307 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 07:00:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 07:00:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Puzzle involving serial console and ...??!? In-Reply-To: <20150831030639.GH1153@albert.catwhisker.org> Message-ID: References: <20150831030639.GH1153@albert.catwhisker.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 31 Aug 2015 07:00:18 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:00:27 -0000 On Sun, 30 Aug 2015, David Wolfskill wrote: > I may be going mad -- that's likely the simplest explanation, and > Occam's Razor would thus indicate that this hypothesis should be > accorded a degree of plausibility, at least. > > As described in , > I have my own quirky ways of upgrading FreeBSD systems, the basics > of which remain fundamentally unchanged for the last dozen years > (well, a few more than that, but...). In turn, much of that approach > was borrowed from one of my pre-FreeBSD experiences in an IBM > mainframe environment (as a "systems programmer"). > > What's causing me to question my tenuous grasp of reality is this: > Referencing the above-cited Web page, my build machine ("freebeast") > normally runs headless, and I use a cable to connect its serial > port to the serial port of one of my other machines ("albert"). > > By doing so, I have a working serial console (once the FreeBSD > loader gains control from the BIOS, at least)... half the time. > > I have determined that whether or not I have a functioning serial > console for freebeast depends on whether I boot albert from slice > 1 or slice 2: if from slice 1, it doesn't work; if from slice 2, > it does. > > Even when the contents of the 2 slices are functionally equivalent > (that is, the file systems of the 2 slices are as "the same" as a > "dump 0Lf | restore" pipeline can make them, except for a deliberate > difference in the contents of /etc/fstab (as the root and /usr file > systems are on different slices in the two cases)). Unless there is a newfs in there also, there could be additional files on the target filesystems. Maybe an mtree comparison or rsync -n would reveal differences. "nodump" flags and dump's -h flag is another possibility, although less likely. From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Aug 31 16:20:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3E39C674F for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:20:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B6E11CC for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:20:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 5106A9C674D; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:20:20 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5099F9C674B for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:20:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from mail.xcllnt.net (mail.xcllnt.net [50.0.150.214]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14CF211CB for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from [192.168.2.22] (atc.xcllnt.net [50.0.150.213]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.xcllnt.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id t7VGKIsP036298 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:20:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_90E5D105-8CA5-486D-80BE-213D97F973D2"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: Puzzle involving serial console and ...??!? X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.1 From: Marcel Moolenaar In-Reply-To: <20150831030639.GH1153@albert.catwhisker.org> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:20:17 -0700 Message-Id: <9D30425C-CFBF-4502-BA04-6F6B0352610F@xcllnt.net> References: <20150831030639.GH1153@albert.catwhisker.org> To: hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:20:20 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_90E5D105-8CA5-486D-80BE-213D97F973D2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Aug 30, 2015, at 8:06 PM, David Wolfskill = wrote: >=20 > By doing so, I have a working serial console (once the FreeBSD > loader gains control from the BIOS, at least)... half the time. >=20 > I have determined that whether or not I have a functioning serial > console for freebeast depends on whether I boot albert from slice > 1 or slice 2: if from slice 1, it doesn't work; if from slice 2, > it does. Check your boot sectors. boot0 is shared between the slices, so that=E2=80=99s less of a concern, but boot2 is specific to each slice. You can force a serial console by writing =E2=80=9C-P=E2=80=9C to = /boot.config (if not already done). It helps if you tell the kernel specifically to use a serial console (as well): boot_serial=3Dyes hw.uart.console=3D=E2=80=9Cio:0x3f8=E2=80=9D boot_multicons=3Dyes I have found that with vt(4) it=E2=80=99s pretty much impossible to not have it claim the console. I haven=E2=80=99t figured out why... -- Marcel Moolenaar marcel@xcllnt.net --Apple-Mail=_90E5D105-8CA5-486D-80BE-213D97F973D2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJV5H7CAAoJEIda8t8f0tjjgn0P/jZ2Y2XsNQVuvRtKTwOijSMN gyqmoVpYeJKVIz88i5RXaNFaM5R+I4fUXSqkGHnzzCl59RTM6q1xkkfFL52ArEsP Er9Dw00WVPJzBQSeKzfe1+t1AxAlZEnH/U2FIQBDjb4T8CWN3lNuTeyHjzp+TBV/ u2uOT/N9atToKPLAWpmC5WseVW37frpAsubBb9xMsG4bUDSY+wLYcJENbcAx+3X3 7WRpmcXgIY6uiFITbNUmu6SBgsJqIAaAcSZkS9JFhTX6WiOtL2fMJlYedNnZzKMf 8flQE3wEt7csSjIHOzrEo4yA6rTqhVmnH8hEuTdymrTCOuUXi3hdZkqaXrLCxBDg k3JqpGYPG0nQvN48ST0+dm4ykd4W1uPyaeX2KkbRqTQaFq3Vdf4KYjuulxqtwwri KnxLNOpd++/yquhCq+a6QZ9/u7vgnMIO0U0zQm39xr3CWizJ7B2md4OTEQ6XNSaV GSpZM8OKJNCXewhp9BFZ+ZXGQoO5xS+KnmB6GKq4F1saYw+kziiSZ2DtDFxIBBAq KAB9ZtRv6XMsVhj1MW8vlXaovnIg7q9zrvUwhXv54f/rapG4HhnfRbKDJW9O768z F1FTIYOHzXPpqxmOw6kJfw3vUExH2Qih6DCaxx2WxYwV79SB2f7rp4MlCEgC4+8t URqI26ZCfCoDwoaMBr0+ =o1aB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_90E5D105-8CA5-486D-80BE-213D97F973D2-- From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Aug 31 16:49:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192EB9C7350 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:49:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erdgeist@erdgeist.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F5C77 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:49:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erdgeist@erdgeist.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 002759C734F; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:49:04 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EA09C734D for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erdgeist@erdgeist.org) Received: from elektropost.org (elektropost.org [217.115.13.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4408675 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:49:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erdgeist@erdgeist.org) Received: (qmail 18139 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2015 16:42:17 -0000 Received: from elektropost.org (HELO elektropost.org) (erdgeist@erdgeist.org) by elektropost.org with ESMTPS (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted); 31 Aug 2015 16:42:17 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: BlackBerry Email (10.3.1.2576) Message-ID: <20150831164211.5611597.78437.7008@erdgeist.org> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 18:42:11 +0200 Subject: Re: Puzzle involving serial console and ...??!? From: Dirk Engling In-Reply-To: <9D30425C-CFBF-4502-BA04-6F6B0352610F@xcllnt.net> References: <20150831030639.GH1153@albert.catwhisker.org> <9D30425C-CFBF-4502-BA04-6F6B0352610F@xcllnt.net> To: Marcel Moolenaar , hackers@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:49:04 -0000 =C2=A0 Original Message =C2=A0 From: Marcel Moolenaar Sent: Montag, 31. August 2015 18:20 To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Puzzle involving serial console and ...??!? > On Aug 30, 2015, at 8:06 PM, David Wolfskill wrote: >=20 > By doing so, I have a working serial console (once the FreeBSD > loader gains control from the BIOS, at least)... half the time. >=20 > I have determined that whether or not I have a functioning serial > console for freebeast depends on whether I boot albert from slice > 1 or slice 2: if from slice 1, it doesn't work; if from slice 2, > it does. Check your boot sectors. boot0 is shared between the slices, so that=E2=80=99s less of a concern, but boot2 is specific to each slice. You can force a serial console by writing =E2=80=9C-P=E2=80=9C to /boot.con= fig (if not already done). It helps if you tell the kernel specifically to use a serial console (as well): boot_serial=3Dyes hw.uart.console=3D=E2=80=9Cio:0x3f8=E2=80=9D boot_multicons=3Dyes I have found that with vt(4) it=E2=80=99s pretty much impossible to not have it claim the console. I haven=E2=80=99t figured out why... -- Marcel Moolenaar marcel@xcllnt.net From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Aug 31 16:56:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A749C772F for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sbruno@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.ignoranthack.me (ignoranthack.me [199.102.79.106]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A65D846 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:56:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sbruno@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.200.200] (unknown [50.136.155.142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: sbruno@ignoranthack.me) by mail.ignoranthack.me (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C6774193655 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:56:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Hi! To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: From: Sean Bruno Message-ID: <55E4873C.5070102@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:56:28 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:56:30 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 08/31/15 00:54, Larry Maloney wrote: > Well, after years of wondering what you guys meant by "on the > mailing list", I finally found out. :) > > WOOT! :) > > /Larry > There goes the neighborhood. sean -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJV5Ic5XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRCQUFENDYzMkU3MTIxREU4RDIwOTk3REQx MjAxRUZDQTFFNzI3RTY0AAoJEBIB78oecn5kb9sH/Ay8Wkb+7i9WxoIG0h3+CmFd j15s5Cwv/UFVEbqXiCbaHdttzUqbcus8zEn2GQG/K5YmpaYw8Nx3hDaGzBbadjsC q5rJCE7y5NniTq1QhnGer2G+sT3RxgDStviu0pAG5+B4m7KfCM3OOEKFCKIrswq+ 7V9eWSWHjEAreCpMP9g8sDXcTJiqoQKTWDY21jpnz5ENOcljc1HqoS2LpRodB2Xy ItWoBC9Nmq9lT1rV7GItRFnOMbTiSCEiJjp2o1NOByV/1d+JPJPzl0m7XsJOkS0r cfDzG6Hdew/mSLR46Ha627kEuleA56WRbyXA+2rE3KeKxP8NiUHRJq/wimK8id4= =9ZTr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Aug 31 17:02:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4136B9C7A8A for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:02:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mattjeet@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22c.google.com (mail-io0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C6ABE96 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:02:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mattjeet@gmail.com) Received: by iods203 with SMTP id s203so165426917iod.0 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:02:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=OcZ3nkbejEBuRZiekhyBrHeUT1Ll1FUeRl+NzsYee1g=; b=xB5FfY+GUHYlJNUodun2SlxnukSyJzzHvC+Zhne3G8sW3TI0cKD8GpbaDISWJKlQ91 C1tsAP74WSqtERY6DZIAwn9odU48gFSvyNdVOUqhZarfD1GzSBbFgL9D4U2hxBRZpOPQ KlHHEPOqM1MyFq2OzKbjMv0pby87PbTmKPOKR+4WK5GBjsD9yI9uq+W5vHoJ927N8cC7 vebJK9b7Q5z+TuvxdkuhlWUnNJtuRcGEGYAZ54lDAfmPo6JnrdfiofEQOzkwQ4hajDEr gTfrsFBH1YMx8bPGbjpfVW+MbmDzIBOCai2msMd60VYn09cr/UCXNcMTFQtQxm9tvG1A 1s7A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.152.12 with SMTP id a12mr3270284ioe.148.1441040552337; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: matt@ixsystems.com Sender: mattjeet@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.252.136 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:02:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:02:32 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: GrEwu7MaDyb6BDOTJrV1gDQBaWU Message-ID: Subject: Re: Hi! From: Matt Olander To: Larry Maloney Cc: Freebsd hackers list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:02:33 -0000 On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:54 AM, Larry Maloney wrote: > Well, after years of wondering what you guys meant by "on the mailing > list", I finally found out. :) > > WOOT! :) It's about time! Welcome home, Larry ;) -matt From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Aug 31 16:39:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1FA9C6FA3 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:39:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hr1sh1@yahoo.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6F51B3A for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:39:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hr1sh1@yahoo.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id AA5149C6FA1; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:39:57 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F6A9C6FA0 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:39:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hr1sh1@yahoo.com) Received: from nm26-vm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.216.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C4CC1B37 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:39:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hr1sh1@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1441038855; bh=9yqvKfcxpSbSWHvtAhxDOcknO8nzjFYrsul1eqt7Cbk=; h=From:Subject:Date:To:From:Subject; b=rrDyRbhhlyTIlEDUnpTGjBFdUPXfKGyRbBqrCCgx0+pru8lBTzaJlj92j2dNj+ApQ2cBZhEBxjpXskhOHL3cf4tWxWgHcx6pDv0iB0VO0SJzE1ARpwS2Qt1VO0envVHbnCvHHk66sujsiAvNRPdrSuRwFnumkhjSvAJRHxDWaamprdSYSW3zpB6Z5Z2AAKzxyLZkw4z11xleUXYs701uS6abr8Ghhbb8caP1zeUTPxhkzSEgkbrOZ5+s2I1Ug5W4xoF9t3r4PmT4JBpP7Aq/z5yURZAgFQxh7z+vr00EaxXdjt8lXtGAj+x3ECF9/YDGUUBF49cq8cQnVjotsUAAOw== Received: from [98.137.12.58] by nm26.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2015 16:34:15 -0000 Received: from [98.136.164.71] by tm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2015 16:34:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp233.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2015 16:34:15 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 67490.36142.bm@smtp233.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: D_Lk7H0VM1k3ZcYYuLcqnpxjw_ZiFgkdm1B2GcwWomXczpa 32i.Hm0CZ63yXee.WcxVlQ76sLuJ2iMVgOZ2aU6rJ1dwb2usTi2XtsgtHLjb 2JRmDX5x1PZIbz4rlDl7v1pLsQZF9G5Eabl..maZ_9tsWhBZrIuzsEwOQxss xV7yDlTEKkBqhU.e0lImGSKKk0VvYT27GtNqmyQrl_5C5D7C2ovQxdjdO7.z CYoFyLN.CIHKse_HNvlbjbE9Triu2X6.40t.kpW_fYTI4eZUeaS2omKav5z_ satnmBxjm5LPFdh1XhcF_V_zmsa8ie3_Tt37lNresTIgNfLDsz2b1Fb4l9BK l7jWENeSWELQO0uPERkyIg6UGDJOFs.ktmJ5FtdxZhkakCLdgxa2P4sCFUiv aUGrQdQoYK9.pbgvdHccnLBevOP1Sq8G3kjruQ4cIBh8l7eSrBvfnuESm3Zl H.9YNZxXiHYvd4fzogctOYz_wPzUB8jYCURdWxVKFRNxCvZ6qI5fjiRBlA_8 - X-Yahoo-SMTP: iMEfVeSswBC.EZkJ4kuORkNsxQ-- From: Hrishikesh Keremane Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: GPL issues around OFED code in FreeBSD 9.1 Message-Id: <5BFB9010-159A-44EE-BB9A-A4E445383AA2@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:34:14 -0700 To: hackers@freebsd.org, net@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:07:01 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:39:57 -0000 [Sorry for cross posting] Hi, We are working on a product(FreeBSD based) that would require RDMA over = iWARP and are considering using the OFED stack in FreeBSD 9.1. We will be making some changes to the OFED stack to customize it to our = requirements. The concern is regarding the implications of GPL licensing of OFED on = our code base. Has anyone worked with OFED in FreeBSD and/or is aware of the licensing = issues around it? Thanks in advance for your help. Please include me in your replies as I am not subscribed to these lists. Thanks, Hrishi From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Aug 31 17:25:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE839C65DD for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABCA1F66 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id B7AFF9C65DB; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70C39C65DA; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x232.google.com (mail-pa0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 896C11F60; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: by pacdd16 with SMTP id dd16so145587817pac.2; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:25:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=jOTVo3W8EXIHBTFTkCjiuk+ZQ2HXpXWR7JBmfIB0KMU=; b=ZNtwoZ8uoWzP3vCdypBTSrgt4vzF5MEG152zqj3hygQuZYReIrN7FVbV2u+xvi9cXc Xkki1Gj7A9TdpeZ4vBNqaoFeyH0H18BhQCMv4j8PwhKKU5TdSerz+8hUR+Tgh9ckMbSb qV9P/qE3/feyWZUbHI/TsZbIGvjAQ6rCdn9MwRwskI2zfmkg4LAcstlPLwX67Lb2maP8 8aGAHbbS0Wfxuu/Vd6Jb9tzjuHo7AEQAWuNtSd+iLi637Hk6GLRtgO6Pu+AKbscXSYlY DJ9BjSNdJ05QqCpJyphUqfRpfrANcIaKjXaZrXC0GVIv+GZbDcDxO0u3fe466AjZe/ut VEMg== X-Received: by 10.66.144.165 with SMTP id sn5mr15514864pab.122.1441041941099; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2601:601:800:126d:fdd2:9111:6c01:3040? ([2601:601:800:126d:fdd2:9111:6c01:3040]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id jd12sm11642675pbd.44.2015.08.31.10.25.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: GPL issues around OFED code in FreeBSD 9.1 From: Garrett Cooper X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12H321) In-Reply-To: <5BFB9010-159A-44EE-BB9A-A4E445383AA2@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:25:39 -0700 Cc: "hackers@freebsd.org" , "net@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <5BFB9010-159A-44EE-BB9A-A4E445383AA2@yahoo.com> To: Hrishikesh Keremane X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:25:42 -0000 > On Aug 31, 2015, at 09:34, Hrishikesh Keremane via freebsd-hackers wrote: >=20 > [Sorry for cross posting] >=20 > Hi, >=20 > We are working on a product(FreeBSD based) that would require RDMA over iW= ARP and are considering using the OFED stack in FreeBSD 9.1. > We will be making some changes to the OFED stack to customize it to our re= quirements. >=20 > The concern is regarding the implications of GPL licensing of OFED on our c= ode base. > Has anyone worked with OFED in FreeBSD and/or is aware of the licensing is= sues around it? >=20 > Thanks in advance for your help. >=20 > Please include me in your replies as I am not subscribed to these lists. The OFED stack is BSD/GPLv2 dual licensed IIRC. the Mellanox import might ha= ve made it 100% BSD licensed though. There's FreeBSD-infiniband@freebsd.org as well. It's a low traffic list, but= it might hit a better target audience in the future. Cheers, -NGie= From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Tue Sep 1 10:47:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1689C8592 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 10:47:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) Received: from gilb.zs64.net (gilb.zs64.net [IPv6:2a00:14b0:4200:32e0::1ea]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gilb.zs64.net", Issuer "Cryptonomicore CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ADF917FC for ; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 10:47:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) Received: by gilb.zs64.net (Postfix, from stb@lassitu.de) id 66CDC52ADB for ; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 10:47:51 +0000 (UTC) From: Stefan Bethke Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Which HDMI stick for info display? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 12:47:48 +0200 To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 10:47:54 -0000 I'm about to set up a TV as kind of a public info display, and I'm = wondering what hardware might be best suited. The system will show web pages using Chrome (remote controlled through = chromedriver), so the hardware requirements are moderate. I think I = need a system that: - can drive 1920x1080 through HDMI - can run Chrome smoothly for most web pages - has good stability: - working watchdog - will turn on automatically after a power outage - will turn on when the TV is turned on - stable Wifi as primary network connection - can ideally play h264 video in Chrome without issues - decent mounting option behind a wall-mounted TV Since I will usually only be able to touch the system remotely, system = stability and Wifi/network stability are really important. The Intel Compute Stick seems to be an obvious contender, also a NUC. = Has anyone had practical experience with such a system and can recommend = hardware? ARM or MIPS are also acceptable, as long as the driver = situation is OK. Quality is the major concern, price not so much (budget is about $500). Thanks, Stefan --=20 Stefan Bethke Fon +49 151 14070811 From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Wed Sep 2 21:03:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07159C9921 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2015 21:03:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dteske@panzura.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x230.google.com (mail-pa0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA0F7AF8 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2015 21:03:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dteske@panzura.com) Received: by pacex6 with SMTP id ex6so17711580pac.0 for ; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 14:03:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=panzura.com; s=google; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=rq737iSBixQtiWNYB4wrv4IgHXYwxgTinueet9b5Mq8=; b=f01yPf/FUfKM8G+m6S+787WALuLcLznGsbyVxGL/jB0KzGU4y25NLXIIgI19b70IlP VG53hr6ySQ0wuGXSvm5Ycnq6Un7iVEm7ZSTZWM1ZFUqb9JA4RdXY0gUvIs25zk4yKvl7 nXJQufRYkvxGt3U9/hjUQvf6X3vX8fFkYqPr8= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references:to; bh=rq737iSBixQtiWNYB4wrv4IgHXYwxgTinueet9b5Mq8=; b=ElU5/MBMK+TuNTyriCoorzOVo3kaksv4AKtnG2+fCMhLdXF4i2h4EDK2JxK3Nw5AD/ iyE/NOIrSGYocxo+m71osmSJNUHihz1GWD1F3H2CPIIJHsacZNH8mSNSmRojFq3oau5d 6rTuBnVBqu6sTzzI+DcbDOo2F+mwXJ8tgE7Ex0A06mJfdE+sQaTvREKwla224liFiLVQ zU55c88BwKFpL02t8BIFVM4mNpzLGSnf7vHHCE8NewJuuwf5x7EST4N1BmhKJuxdo59R DxPiJsRZjJWU7ROGupmw1XsBrEN3kugCGzlnOIunXL8n1X5+/egF98fn01Evvq+YjzBi dD/A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlJPjorpRvignHOpZzp2eNdsZQKveZ/IIzw2kBGGkbfZVfB3v8Qa2hv9OzFpcOCx52rMHFS X-Received: by 10.66.62.163 with SMTP id z3mr59593803par.12.1441227784102; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 14:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tinkerbell.pixel8networks.com ([12.179.176.146]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q5sm22712613pdc.65.2015.09.02.14.03.02 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 02 Sep 2015 14:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\)) Subject: Re: How to control and setup service? From: Devin Teske In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 14:03:07 -0700 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Devin Teske Message-Id: References: To: Pavel Timofeev X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 02 Sep 2015 21:38:42 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2015 21:03:05 -0000 > On Aug 27, 2015, at 6:21 AM, Pavel Timofeev wrote: >=20 [snip] > there is no way to ask FreeBSD for a complete list of startup dirs. >=20 Aside from the way you mentioned (snipped), there=E2=80=99s the = following: # echo /etc/rc.d $( sysrc -n local_startup ) [snip] >=20 > But, FreeBSD has more places with higher precedence than /etc/rc.conf! > It's /etc/rc.conf.local file, > then /etc/rc.conf.d/$service file, > then /etc/rc.conf.d/$service/* files. > Then even /usr/local/etc/rc.conf.d/$service files and subdirs which > appeared in FreeBSD 10! >=20 D=E2=80=99Oh, didn=E2=80=99t realize that rc.conf.d/$name could be a = directory. Looks like I=E2=80=99ll have to update the following: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D3551 sysrc: Add support for ``rc.conf.d'' service(8) configuration file(s) > And there is no way to ask FreeBSD "Hey! Where is your config files to > control services?=E2=80=9D. I am adding that in the above review (D3551). Usage: # sysrc -l /etc/rc.conf /etc/rc.conf.local # sysrc -ls ipfw /etc/rc.conf /etc/rc.conf.local /etc/rc.conf.d/ipfw = /usr/local/etc/rc.conf.d/ipfw # sysrc -ls dhclient /etc/rc.conf /etc/rc.conf.local /etc/rc.conf.d/dhclient = /usr/local/etc/rc.conf.d/dhclient /etc/rc.conf.d/network = /usr/local/etc/rc.conf.d/network [snip] > Of course, there is no way to ask "Where this service is = enabled/disabled?=E2=80=9D Currently today, there is: # sysrc -F sshd_enable sshd_enable: /etc/rc.conf > So we can catch $rc_conf_files, but not a bunch of rc.conf.d dirs and > subdirs. With the above review (D3551): # sysrc -Fs ipfw ipfw_enable ipfw_enable: /etc/rc.conf.d/ipfw [snip] > We have only sysrc(8), but it can > only edit $rc_conf_files in safe way. There is no support for > rc.conf.d dirs in sysrc(8). https://reviews.freebsd.org/D3551 > And, in general, it's a tool to just `edit` $rc_conf_files, not to > control and configure services. >=20 As mentioned previously (by Lars): https://reviews.freebsd.org/D451 [snip rest] =E2=80=94=20 Cheers, Devin From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Wed Sep 2 22:13:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AAE9C9669 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2015 22:13:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpokala@panasas.com) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1bon0096.outbound.protection.outlook.com [157.56.111.96]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B40391FCD for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2015 22:13:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpokala@panasas.com) Received: from CY1PR08MB1803.namprd08.prod.outlook.com (10.162.218.25) by CY1PR08MB1801.namprd08.prod.outlook.com (10.162.218.23) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.256.15; Wed, 2 Sep 2015 22:13:38 +0000 Received: from CY1PR08MB1803.namprd08.prod.outlook.com ([10.162.218.25]) by CY1PR08MB1803.namprd08.prod.outlook.com ([10.162.218.25]) with mapi id 15.01.0256.013; Wed, 2 Sep 2015 22:13:38 +0000 From: "Pokala, Ravi" To: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" Subject: Quick question: sc(4) vs vt(4) Thread-Topic: Quick question: sc(4) vs vt(4) Thread-Index: AQHQ5cyeqrODlPB0aE2qvnPtg/+DBQ== Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 22:13:38 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.4.150722 authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=rpokala@panasas.com; x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-originating-ip: [64.80.217.3] x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; CY1PR08MB1801; 5:MFcWm9egC0JGVOz9XLcDg6bylBcA0CC662VqQzHDb5rL6DJlRDs+wbnftMi2k9cSJvA0oCXmZKPg7CBxpB6Sl4699a8yEAiZelcWC0pOcDLSxYi/9zbgiPl2mQoEMl5tCe1QE6HKO9dLMMa+k+5uMw==; 24:zZ905iStAPzFN5ecrn0vTiq/0enxHsmLeb+ynQOLNZxPolH/bowYinKQ9+Fb5zPHkdobCPM6Q/AzBlKCRpA/pDkuvupJ5QjD/9NXTR6Cebk=; 20:NHfK9wcXyQ47bQFCh8xpo3KfVkSNHCHvp3L558edQpJkGyBUQV+pkRuG+Rg8YcJ1jt+Qz52ghCG4lrvWS869zQ== x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:CY1PR08MB1801; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004)(5005006)(8121501046)(3002001); SRVR:CY1PR08MB1801; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:CY1PR08MB1801; x-forefront-prvs: 0687389FB0 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10009020)(6009001)(199003)(189002)(164054003)(189998001)(97736004)(5001960100002)(106116001)(2351001)(229853001)(5001860100001)(50986999)(5001830100001)(5002640100001)(450100001)(81156007)(4001350100001)(110136002)(105586002)(106356001)(107886002)(99286002)(4001540100001)(68736005)(77096005)(36756003)(83506001)(101416001)(77156002)(2501003)(86362001)(87936001)(19580395003)(62966003)(66066001)(5004730100002)(64706001)(102836002)(5007970100001)(54356999)(10400500002)(46102003)(92566002)(40100003)(2900100001)(122556002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:CY1PR08MB1801; H:CY1PR08MB1803.namprd08.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: panasas.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <78BD343A2105A142B911BAEDCB1E98A4@namprd08.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: panasas.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 02 Sep 2015 22:13:38.4809 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: acf01c9d-c699-42af-bdbb-44bf582e60b0 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CY1PR08MB1801 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2015 22:13:49 -0000 Hi folks, vt(4) says: kern.vty Set this value to `vt' or `sc' to override the default driver used for the system console. By default, sc(4) is used on com- puters that boot from BIOS, and vt is used on computers that boot from UEFI. Are there any known problems using vt(4) rather than sc(4) on systems booting with BIOS? One of our folks noticed that sc(4) has a bunch of dependencies, a bunch of which that are for obsolete hardware (AT keyboards and their controllers, splash screens, etc), that vt(4) does not. Thanks, Ravi From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Wed Sep 2 22:22:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F63B9C9B84 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2015 22:22:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from anubis.delphij.net (anubis.delphij.net [64.62.153.212]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "anubis.delphij.net", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67727985 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2015 22:22:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from zeta.ixsystems.com (unknown [12.229.62.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by anubis.delphij.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7E60E1D7F5; Wed, 2 Sep 2015 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=delphij.net; s=anubis; t=1441232531; x=1441246931; bh=A2tlIrDLXMUhS2UYYT3zL7xVDhzp+Qsd/oSd3qq62Qk=; h=Reply-To:Subject:References:To:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=cZjtyEzWVwsYnY2IKhSHDDRGFYLHnROh8LNxY8A79Da8EZbtXc/Mfxn/7RDGkp76T jOYkE4MlQUnKgW2DOIgml+9bzBeUpuFyY+P15luWgDrXxyTftUsZSsoVf1Zkm26UZH IShWmzf4A+hPfAXK1ok+zQosGUqK/n6qMOmZptCs= Reply-To: d@delphij.net Subject: Re: Quick question: sc(4) vs vt(4) References: To: "Pokala, Ravi" , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" From: Xin Li X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Message-ID: <55E77692.4050709@delphij.net> Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 15:22:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="G9eeQ6Ki3tnVm4hq3Lcmb38UlOf4BIfUs" X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2015 22:22:17 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --G9eeQ6Ki3tnVm4hq3Lcmb38UlOf4BIfUs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/02/15 15:13, Pokala, Ravi wrote: > Hi folks, >=20 > vt(4) says: >=20 > kern.vty > Set this value to `vt' or `sc' to override the default dri= ver > used for the system console. By default, sc(4) is used on= > com- > puters that boot from BIOS, and vt is used on computers th= at > boot > from UEFI. >=20 >=20 > Are there any known problems using vt(4) rather than sc(4) on systems > booting with BIOS? One of our folks noticed that sc(4) has a bunch of > dependencies, a bunch of which that are for obsolete hardware (AT > keyboards and their controllers, splash screens, etc), that vt(4) does = not. I don't expect any problems with it used in systems that uses BIOS. In fact, one would have to use vt if they want to use DRM2, and I personally used it for quite some time on my Lenovo T530, and there isn't any glitch related to vt(4) in the past year that I can remember. Cheers, --=20 Xin LI https://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! 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Wed, 2 Sep 2015 22:29:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpokala@panasas.com) Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2on0077.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.100.77]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26B4EB90 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2015 22:29:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpokala@panasas.com) Received: from CY1PR08MB1803.namprd08.prod.outlook.com (10.162.218.25) by CY1PR08MB1802.namprd08.prod.outlook.com (10.162.218.24) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.256.15; Wed, 2 Sep 2015 22:29:34 +0000 Received: from CY1PR08MB1803.namprd08.prod.outlook.com ([10.162.218.25]) by CY1PR08MB1803.namprd08.prod.outlook.com ([10.162.218.25]) with mapi id 15.01.0256.013; Wed, 2 Sep 2015 22:29:33 +0000 From: "Pokala, Ravi" To: "d@delphij.net" , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Quick question: sc(4) vs vt(4) Thread-Topic: Quick question: sc(4) vs vt(4) Thread-Index: AQHQ5cyeqrODlPB0aE2qvnPtg/+DBZ4p0AUA//+MtgA= Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 22:29:33 +0000 Message-ID: References: <55E77692.4050709@delphij.net> In-Reply-To: <55E77692.4050709@delphij.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.4.150722 authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=rpokala@panasas.com; 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One of our folks noticed that sc(4) has a bunch of >>dependencies, a bunch of which that are for obsolete hardware (AT >>keyboards and their controllers, splash screens, etc), that vt(4) does >>not. > >I don't expect any problems with it used in systems that uses BIOS. In >fact, one would have to use vt if they want to use DRM2, and I personally >used it for quite some time on my Lenovo T530, and there isn't any glitch >related to vt(4) in the past year that I can remember. Thanks Xin. A few folks chimed in on #bsdcode and said the same thing. -Ravi >Cheers, >--=20 >Xin LI https://www.delphij.net/ >FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! Live free or die From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Wed Sep 2 23:59:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4D69C8F6F for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2015 23:59:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CF2E6D8 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2015 23:59:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickhess@gmx.net) Received: from desk8.phess.net ([24.134.52.245]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Mh9yT-1ZJtmj39Y9-00MKHn for ; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 01:59:44 +0200 From: Patrick Hess To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quick question: sc(4) vs vt(4) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 01:59:42 +0200 Message-ID: <4379838.Yeri6BbKHa@desk8.phess.net> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE-p16; KDE/4.14.3; i386; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:7VeZ1jnlZ5LuVbLfvymwmW0Emc1WCeSq2DV5kj629y1UXpG3fsy YsSMNbzKCj3BGK1wRuQP7oz+296lg8THsBoEZLi02sAi3iAri+0MZ35wDEpo7K8ufAKI6bO zdlNo7IgnqMcDEVqlWKjCFALTWWJchmkRb1F8Ra5l5bICIJw6XUzOeP+TYDZP7e8ee0jB1x eK9vrSIDpUT8NKmI3Ivrg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:jckb7YCPeD4=:OHRGq7vm3kQsJFUOXbrvZf nmWwWyUdLHD6CcmrZ9+VKf8tspJAjSkCVam19PXGPfa9uaM586qu3r7fSR+7Av9JZMDgHKeiW kcn1oQdogoB/CCVad7MEMfDp8lZZvvbwcVHwJzYh2HBEZpLrRQAFUcr5lvFHuc/Yd3Ag8IIWg w6Ly3SjRyIskj1+8wJOorr2OAOOhTZraUbQ67Lp+YyVSZgjuhyTRiUDYUuPPlZkHhBMpvhrCs HWhgEPDfvb9i6xFrYK4QIYqqNeWXY4EnB7bolGYR8/Pb62dcckcHOJLlLwnk7vWyf6Om/PBm4 W9sxBbKp6/cifjPp3P/qflyGaZSKN7oL7tt0NvkwZg5zqoH86El4Yid7UzI/nGBCMfHnE9eAk kxgCWKiu4am1VTMR+X8R/v9sEOTuyCB3LFUyTU3oVhHW9Rn9UPKk9QCzUckaGglUw6csZGB11 uMjWPfpiordsYgE1+gOFXrIkLH8tHEBasDHSqlXUlJqhGAMkQo12aNLJ58yBJ2LMBBtD6jptl 9Vf5l+tZJmZfOs2SZKiVfRDyTS10q9jlZxOuW8OKlWDIMGDSa/KkkPvLev8Y1ZbE46FSwst3j mO7CmGJerxRYuRzfAH6vkTOWhW34kCCX2WqeAIkafq8FzrgALgMWGOK7KyhklCy/awiu7fXP8 cjFgnQuS5EQ8mlkKEJhC0Ob8n1O5B6oiGDY7ivwxkn/ahoqjQt3QdXu2YqXHyBIzA06lQnwFr PO7g6shfFk0VOYTRDK+HdMH8VRQj2vWAKUbnfw== X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2015 23:59:53 -0000 Pokala, Ravi wrote: > Are there any known problems using vt(4) rather than sc(4) on systems > booting with BIOS? Last time I checked, nvidia(4) didn't work with vt(4). Other than that, I didn't experience any issues that could have been related to running vt(4) on BIOS-based systems. Patrick From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Sep 3 00:01:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B449C7024; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 00:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: from thebighonker.lerctr.org (thebighonker.lerctr.org [IPv6:2001:470:1f0f:3ad:223:7dff:fe9e:6e8a]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B76C8DE; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 00:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lerctr.org; s=lerami; h=Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=m2M/UoOL5JrEjuAn5n3BIejQFp6j8T9bNxooXNrUvjM=; b=v+jq0qgfXhns54fC2qwcLnov5x aDpw4wImD4bAAQGMpIcu4CKaiAyE6lfOn2kzQcCFzo3BkxvfRVcxVHrUuOj1T33smSGXphlXi+JCI ZDelMmJBnfknFlNstd6BdA9F74AMsqeKtRwBx5OYnfpgJuV34jX602mPyL9deSO6SFRk=; Received: from thebighonker.lerctr.org ([2001:470:1f0f:3ad:223:7dff:fe9e:6e8a]:20398 helo=webmail.lerctr.org) by thebighonker.lerctr.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXHxd-000DIX-2G; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 19:01:01 -0500 Received: from cpe-70-113-56-244.austin.res.rr.com ([70.113.56.244]) by webmail.lerctr.org with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Wed, 02 Sep 2015 19:01:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2015 19:01:00 -0500 From: Larry Rosenman To: Patrick Hess Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quick question: sc(4) vs vt(4) In-Reply-To: <4379838.Yeri6BbKHa@desk8.phess.net> References: <4379838.Yeri6BbKHa@desk8.phess.net> Message-ID: <9946dc9708cdb888a84dc0c0d47e9680@thebighonker.lerctr.org> X-Sender: ler@lerctr.org User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.2 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-LERCTR-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: SpamScore (-1.0/5.0) ALL_TRUSTED=-1,SHORTCIRCUIT=-0.0001 X-LERCTR-Spam-Report: SpamScore (-1.0/5.0) ALL_TRUSTED=-1, SHORTCIRCUIT=-0.0001 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 00:01:02 -0000 On 2015-09-02 18:59, Patrick Hess wrote: > Pokala, Ravi wrote: >> Are there any known problems using vt(4) rather than sc(4) on systems >> booting with BIOS? > > Last time I checked, nvidia(4) didn't work with vt(4). Other than that, > I didn't experience any issues that could have been related to running > vt(4) on BIOS-based systems. > > Patrick > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I can use my nvidia driver to get X working with vt(4) as a secondary on my -CURRENT system. -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 E-Mail: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 7011 W Parmer Ln, Apt 1115, Austin, TX 78729-6961 From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Sep 3 04:46:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B574B9C8E09 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 04:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timp87@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x235.google.com (mail-wi0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 579131DE4 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 04:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timp87@gmail.com) Received: by wicmc4 with SMTP id mc4so6501997wic.0 for ; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 21:46:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Yxlq6iOjlcMrEr2GNQxqWXkbdx7mZFXr5cfB88FAc28=; b=06Duicx9ur+8l2JYEq9kONcyESPYzWgle89Bff+j7UOgnz3zGUi9Qh4iXSccGNZxvu nVyTRz9AJG1mxXk44ESQq7x/28k+Ckl+jYU96zgVsOQieJvad3YBbuss7gvprfPZUDP/ 1a9On25geLivAQZ01G7RyEonpOJeIiLFmYxR3HPQwTMXjkSL9dPHRJhdw58iAB/NikDO ocGsNCixo1dHWJXlAuS47g3fMYPmzAQMqzbKahAoyIc8B3xuZLm76RzP6UumllsDux3f 80c+bJKaEhExe4MPSqLTorp/l+tYONgRk9X/5g+SlBYoaripW19iqs4WBNZpWjU6vq1a S7nA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.85.194 with SMTP id j2mr10514045wiz.11.1441255591446; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 21:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.9.195 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Sep 2015 21:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.9.195 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Sep 2015 21:46:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 07:46:31 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Quick question: sc(4) vs vt(4) From: Pavel Timofeev To: "Pokala, Ravi" Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 04:46:33 -0000 Hi! The only problem I experienced with vt(4) is extremely slow work in default mode under some virtualization platforms, for example, Hyper-V. vt(4) can be switched to text mode to make things better though. 03.09.2015 1:14 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0= =B5=D0=BB=D1=8C "Pokala, Ravi" =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0= =B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > Hi folks, > > vt(4) says: > > kern.vty > Set this value to `vt' or `sc' to override the default drive= r > used for the system console. By default, sc(4) is used on > com- > puters that boot from BIOS, and vt is used on computers that > boot > from UEFI. > > > Are there any known problems using vt(4) rather than sc(4) on systems > booting with BIOS? One of our folks noticed that sc(4) has a bunch of > dependencies, a bunch of which that are for obsolete hardware (AT > keyboards and their controllers, splash screens, etc), that vt(4) does no= t. > > Thanks, > > Ravi > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " > From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Sep 3 04:58:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFA49C72C6 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 04:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpokala@panasas.com) Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2on0086.outbound.protection.outlook.com [65.55.169.86]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2856B232 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 04:58:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpokala@panasas.com) Received: from CY1PR08MB1803.namprd08.prod.outlook.com (10.162.218.25) by CY1PR08MB1803.namprd08.prod.outlook.com (10.162.218.25) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.256.15; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 04:58:40 +0000 Received: from CY1PR08MB1803.namprd08.prod.outlook.com ([10.162.218.25]) by CY1PR08MB1803.namprd08.prod.outlook.com ([10.162.218.25]) with mapi id 15.01.0256.013; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 04:58:40 +0000 From: "Pokala, Ravi" To: Pavel Timofeev CC: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Quick question: sc(4) vs vt(4) Thread-Topic: Quick question: sc(4) vs vt(4) Thread-Index: AQHQ5cyeqrODlPB0aE2qvnPtg/+DBZ4qO2eA//+OC4A= Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 04:58:39 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.4.150722 authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=rpokala@panasas.com; x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-originating-ip: [24.6.178.251] x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; CY1PR08MB1803; 5:duuVSZRd46JIMCSd+uRTmKojCsBhyGEV4vm1ipkhCUB/x3YEsfndfKipoIzUG/8Dxa0ecRu8AslvswjJfAt1L7zmBnZ80wdhx/MeTAkUy4RXHsjLyT7LG7AzAy9rXkAmMT/4U83IvZFsYi8OeVZolQ==; 24:izn6hkXHDFwLd0bkUBFUZOxoFYhXRuiVg12dMg4tKx3gEzKBnVt85n9fvKnbyRr/DsYr737EUYRYlDx4c+PmniavojK3ZZIsBjTKugdkNEY=; 20:mdmSP1lBIKoOSlXInGG2aiNaxmWnYEDwVuDEqe4SVdvJFrFpHgxRu0x/UI5Z/U3RkYMKdyyQYvQU6RcoU872IA== x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:CY1PR08MB1803; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004)(8121501046)(5005006)(3002001); SRVR:CY1PR08MB1803; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:CY1PR08MB1803; x-forefront-prvs: 0688BF9B46 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10009020)(6009001)(377424004)(199003)(13464003)(164054003)(189002)(2900100001)(97736004)(110136002)(54356999)(101416001)(99286002)(1411001)(92566002)(106356001)(2950100001)(86362001)(50986999)(81156007)(64706001)(66066001)(5002640100001)(77096005)(189998001)(5001960100002)(4001540100001)(102836002)(68736005)(76176999)(4001350100001)(5001860100001)(10400500002)(19580405001)(40100003)(122556002)(77156002)(19580395003)(62966003)(5001830100001)(87936001)(36756003)(46102003)(83506001)(106116001)(105586002)(5007970100001)(5004730100002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:CY1PR08MB1803; H:CY1PR08MB1803.namprd08.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: panasas.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: panasas.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 03 Sep 2015 04:58:39.6022 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: acf01c9d-c699-42af-bdbb-44bf582e60b0 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CY1PR08MB1803 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 04:58:44 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: Pavel Timofeev Date: 2015-09-02, Wednesday at 21:46 To: Ravi Pokala Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Quick question: sc(4) vs vt(4) >Hi! The only problem I experienced with vt(4) is extremely slow work in >default mode under some virtualization platforms, for example, Hyper-V. Thanks Pavel, that's good to know. We're mostly concerned with running on bare metal, so that won't be a concern for us. >vt(4) can be switched to text mode to make things better though. Yeah, one of my colleagues found the hw.vga.textmode setting. The VGA console is a going to be a rarely-used fallback (the expected case is using the serial console), so staying in textmode is just fine. Thanks, Ravi From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Sep 3 06:12:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23B89C863A for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 06:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x233.google.com (mail-pa0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F0FD95 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 06:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: by pacex6 with SMTP id ex6so31140265pac.0 for ; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 23:12:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=ZpO+JssLECB+US4HOZhKF7AlDRAaOioTT4uOrD8VScY=; b=EYA9XRUG9cI+5Dev6cCz2FiSP8zWsbZadRFqsXEiVHZx8kZmQ0o9e2IvDQd0J1yf5q uh/1Dko5BPplABqwPI1o1IFbMqNLf3LQoZk9mDnGaW2ewul0LwBaCyKeRObhrXIIfASk u+XTm8SpHmUpdWA5SU3fFsbH30SKof1iL4iiKUBjygSFVfeDZazfe2xiessla9kOZbo1 Q5qPg4FPgjd4S828aIwqr4ZQY2dc/j+NV/GZLooUPpIz+yHS5dSfNQePwOBlDrKxt3lu gmtvuQN55/6Tsl4xKPway/9wEEx4JlcjbBc9gDBZNm1VXNxOZYyFlGzkG/1SDbvxugYs vlOg== X-Received: by 10.66.164.230 with SMTP id yt6mr62418102pab.149.1441260722981; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 23:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [21.138.3.77] ([172.56.33.91]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id fm5sm23778297pbb.60.2015.09.02.23.12.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 02 Sep 2015 23:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Quick question: sc(4) vs vt(4) From: Garrett Cooper X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12H321) In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 23:12:01 -0700 Cc: Pavel Timofeev , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: "Pokala, Ravi" X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 06:12:03 -0000 > On Sep 2, 2015, at 21:58, Pokala, Ravi wrote: >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Pavel Timofeev > Date: 2015-09-02, Wednesday at 21:46 > To: Ravi Pokala > Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" > Subject: Re: Quick question: sc(4) vs vt(4) >=20 >> Hi! The only problem I experienced with vt(4) is extremely slow work in >> default mode under some virtualization platforms, for example, Hyper-V. >=20 > Thanks Pavel, that's good to know. We're mostly concerned with running on > bare metal, so that won't be a concern for us. >=20 >> vt(4) can be switched to text mode to make things better though. >=20 > Yeah, one of my colleagues found the hw.vga.textmode setting. The VGA > console is a going to be a rarely-used fallback (the expected case is > using the serial console), so staying in textmode is just fine. The performance is a bit slow until it hits userland real and virtual for me= ... Has been for months.= From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Sep 3 14:59:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D19F99E016 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 14:59:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timp87@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x235.google.com (mail-wi0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD9B0812; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 14:59:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timp87@gmail.com) Received: by wicfx3 with SMTP id fx3so55438236wic.0; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 07:59:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Aet5GMF58KQ1+FDbhLzsmm8WkzoKliC+3rhIkAXuCXI=; b=mcq/fN8AyOZCK51Z4bl/O0mg2yihxqR6dVT30tipCnBL+zlMIGjB/AByAVT4slMBFr U9sPdvPQYIF9LvBXvNbrdI7rNetxVF6pxJViOEvAnbiuvWJOM8z0+7icg/Ke04ADFMLL EYbh+YL5cl5AgcjfZQUNh4yIyqIfXZ6OV8mTVQzRgM6vhH+rblHmPEA/Pny3k0617CMI dh/QsDm5X5b+MziTRgOPuZRc+Il7lCjaSrbSFbsmesQ6wKSLws6IZ/x1PE/TlA0y3gqB hY0RrZ02yxVawZTpAUCST636bNW+e+vfzIBxiLkCwTeJL4pI2eU5o1uQom8J1YhLONWt C/Wg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.149.146 with SMTP id ua18mr15274210wib.86.1441292379152; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 07:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.9.195 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 07:59:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 17:59:39 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to control and setup service? From: Pavel Timofeev To: Devin Teske Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Devin Teske Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 14:59:41 -0000 2015-09-03 0:03 GMT+03:00 Devin Teske : > > On Aug 27, 2015, at 6:21 AM, Pavel Timofeev wrote: > > [snip] > > there is no way to ask FreeBSD for a complete list of startup dirs. > > > Aside from the way you mentioned (snipped), there=E2=80=99s the following= : > # echo /etc/rc.d $( sysrc -n local_startup ) > > > [snip] > > > But, FreeBSD has more places with higher precedence than /etc/rc.conf! > It's /etc/rc.conf.local file, > then /etc/rc.conf.d/$service file, > > then /etc/rc.conf.d/$service/* files. > > Then even /usr/local/etc/rc.conf.d/$service files and subdirs which > appeared in FreeBSD 10! > > > D=E2=80=99Oh, didn=E2=80=99t realize that rc.conf.d/$name could be a dire= ctory. > Looks like I=E2=80=99ll have to update the following: > > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D3551 > sysrc: Add support for ``rc.conf.d'' service(8) configuration file(s) > > > And there is no way to ask FreeBSD "Hey! Where is your config files to > control services?=E2=80=9D. > > > I am adding that in the above review (D3551). Usage: > > # sysrc -l > /etc/rc.conf /etc/rc.conf.local > > # sysrc -ls ipfw > /etc/rc.conf /etc/rc.conf.local /etc/rc.conf.d/ipfw > /usr/local/etc/rc.conf.d/ipfw > > # sysrc -ls dhclient > /etc/rc.conf /etc/rc.conf.local /etc/rc.conf.d/dhclient > /usr/local/etc/rc.conf.d/dhclient /etc/rc.conf.d/network > /usr/local/etc/rc.conf.d/network > > > [snip] > > Of course, there is no way to ask "Where this service is enabled/disabled= ?=E2=80=9D > > > Currently today, there is: > # sysrc -F sshd_enable > sshd_enable: /etc/rc.conf > > > So we can catch $rc_conf_files, but not a bunch of rc.conf.d dirs and > subdirs. > > > With the above review (D3551): > # sysrc -Fs ipfw ipfw_enable > ipfw_enable: /etc/rc.conf.d/ipfw > > > [snip] > > We have only sysrc(8), but it can > > only edit $rc_conf_files in safe way. There is no support for > rc.conf.d dirs in sysrc(8). > > > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D3551 Thanks a lot, Devin! > > > And, in general, it's a tool to just `edit` $rc_conf_files, not to > control and configure services. > > > As mentioned previously (by Lars): > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D451 > It doesn't take into consideration a lot of things now :( > > [snip rest] > =E2=80=94 > Cheers, > Devin > From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Sep 3 15:38:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 888EE9C73A0 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 15:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from devin@shxd.cx) Received: from shxd.cx (mail.shxd.cx [64.201.244.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 754F8365; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 15:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from devin@shxd.cx) Received: from [64.201.244.132] (port=61125 helo=[10.0.0.104]) by shxd.cx with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXUd2-0004qb-4s; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 06:32:36 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\)) Subject: Re: How to control and setup service? From: Devin Teske In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 08:38:28 -0700 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Devin Teske Message-Id: <6737F3AC-4D78-4FC1-BED9-7D68B99F71CC@FreeBSD.org> References: To: Pavel Timofeev X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) Sender: devin@shxd.cx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 15:38:35 -0000 > On Sep 3, 2015, at 7:59 AM, Pavel Timofeev wrote: >=20 > 2015-09-03 0:03 GMT+03:00 Devin Teske >: >>=20 >> On Aug 27, 2015, at 6:21 AM, Pavel Timofeev wrote: >>=20 >> [snip] >>=20 >> And, in general, it's a tool to just `edit` $rc_conf_files, not to >> control and configure services. >>=20 >>=20 >> As mentioned previously (by Lars): >> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D451 >>=20 >=20 > It doesn't take into consideration a lot of things now :( I haven=E2=80=99t had a chance to look at it, honestly. Maybe after I=E2=80=99m done having a good breakdown of sysrc(8). =E2=80=94=20 Devin= From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Sep 3 17:33:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F84C9CAFA3 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 17:33:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vijju.singh@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36EEE31 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 17:33:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vijju.singh@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id DECE79CAFA0; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 17:33:52 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3709CAF9F; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 17:33:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vijju.singh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x22f.google.com (mail-ig0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9847E2F; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 17:33:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vijju.singh@gmail.com) Received: by igbkq10 with SMTP id kq10so54537459igb.0; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 10:33:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=wDM0p1h+Ph65B/lfjdxxKkE3U6VA4luo6krKOe9wuV0=; b=CLtXGOucJfoyDzavZzBbZBO5t16cNSv2gn9M0oyxVY4AefpoL1HYEqwy5NAhk5Pp6q bg6GWbnU9Lf7Ffft72EXn5AsNW3KG7SaGqChRsMYqTXvPJ1VjPnbFNIVETpwEZ5I39Cw p1Yu+8BUlTAjq9ExaYz43epb9ySeNsIBHagDwbgTMUAOKN1ivsuthuptnAyMjlotPUVF qaeDtI4NPQtkVuvCN4sAYuGrW3/FQmt6ntiak/f7YKpyi6NIjHkdddJYIMdzr+tHg47U wOJA4Fi/KAo+RR0x2OOaFOGTQUgwhEn3iR0ZeA4ObYi5U5XZ1n0d9i7w8Yi+8GN01s3K Ymfw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.30.106 with SMTP id r10mr15592090igh.69.1441301631865; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 10:33:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.137.233 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 10:33:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5BFB9010-159A-44EE-BB9A-A4E445383AA2@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 10:33:51 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GPL issues around OFED code in FreeBSD 9.1 From: Vijay Singh To: Garrett Cooper Cc: Hrishikesh Keremane , "hackers@freebsd.org" , "net@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 17:33:53 -0000 Someone told me that once the OFED code hit kernel.org the GPL is the only license that applies. Does anyone have insights about that? On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote: > > > On Aug 31, 2015, at 09:34, Hrishikesh Keremane via freebsd-hackers < > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> wrote: > > > > [Sorry for cross posting] > > > > Hi, > > > > We are working on a product(FreeBSD based) that would require RDMA over > iWARP and are considering using the OFED stack in FreeBSD 9.1. > > We will be making some changes to the OFED stack to customize it to our > requirements. > > > > The concern is regarding the implications of GPL licensing of OFED on > our code base. > > Has anyone worked with OFED in FreeBSD and/or is aware of the licensing > issues around it? > > > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > > > Please include me in your replies as I am not subscribed to these lists. > > The OFED stack is BSD/GPLv2 dual licensed IIRC. the Mellanox import might > have made it 100% BSD licensed though. > > There's FreeBSD-infiniband@freebsd.org as well. It's a low traffic list, > but it might hit a better target audience in the future. > > Cheers, > -NGie > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Sep 3 19:07:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F659C9918 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 19:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kmacybsd@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36A4767 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 19:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kmacybsd@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id B28B79C9915; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 19:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EFD9C9914; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 19:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kmacybsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x234.google.com (mail-ig0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A3B4766; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 19:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kmacybsd@gmail.com) Received: by igbni9 with SMTP id ni9so47902278igb.0; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 12:07:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=GtkR/W04jW8i6faDWNdN1sRyq3J4jM8/X3ST1W+jG78=; b=snqLyDxKXbRznv7mYPW3ZKtdJcoFgT5njc9R1ToqBIu8YfQBCbTXBcwsmC2lw95RDv kKH0mzCppGxTlWTNyQ6oIpo6jU8A0mkf+MWQJrzX7gnzPPIEr7qow47BQ9YV7TWoAKuM SllQa7oHd3jXVO+ecb2RfemkSpw/zS02vtb5KktHaIy9v2sLcH4FQQzxcUFEljZv+Yqz exhd7v0E9Z1CP0Lr69IrEEbn6ovTHhpMOwFZT8UE4L2EGJK4P3UwYCPBNe4K/Nnahj9S LB+tjgfOYZDX6aTwpTbaZIoZ+aZAVVa9sWkufvAW/DGWxE/ph58Cm0maXnK389zT6RfJ EJYg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.87.98 with SMTP id w2mr16626352igz.60.1441307259856; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 12:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Sender: kmacybsd@gmail.com Received: by 10.36.30.202 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 12:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.30.202 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 12:07:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5BFB9010-159A-44EE-BB9A-A4E445383AA2@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 12:07:39 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e57jsptXKKUbU8MDBY1KCyuYGec Message-ID: Subject: Re: GPL issues around OFED code in FreeBSD 9.1 From: "K. Macy" To: Vijay Singh Cc: Hrishikesh Keremane , "hackers@freebsd.org" , Garrett Cooper , "net@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 19:07:40 -0000 On Sep 3, 2015 10:33 AM, "Vijay Singh" wrote: > > Someone told me that once the OFED code hit kernel.org the GPL is the only > license that applies. Does anyone have insights about that? That sounds bizarre since mellanox wrote the code and explicitly dual licensed. The problem you *do* run in to is code creep. The Linux internal interfaces are almost certainly totally undocumented, so a clean room reimplementation as they change or bugs get fixed - changing behaviors - is not possible. Over time the tendency is to copy and paste from Linux to OFED or the shim layer creating real ambiguity about provenance. In practice it's not so much of a problem because Linus tends to adhere to an interpretation of the GPLv2 that is not vendor unfriendly the way some of his lieutenants would prefer (see Greg's efforts to call closed source drivers derived works). Nonetheless, if you're paranoid an audit is in order. Cheers. > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Garrett Cooper > wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 31, 2015, at 09:34, Hrishikesh Keremane via freebsd-hackers < > > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> wrote: > > > > > > [Sorry for cross posting] > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > We are working on a product(FreeBSD based) that would require RDMA over > > iWARP and are considering using the OFED stack in FreeBSD 9.1. > > > We will be making some changes to the OFED stack to customize it to our > > requirements. > > > > > > The concern is regarding the implications of GPL licensing of OFED on > > our code base. > > > Has anyone worked with OFED in FreeBSD and/or is aware of the licensing > > issues around it? > > > > > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > > > > > Please include me in your replies as I am not subscribed to these lists. > > > > The OFED stack is BSD/GPLv2 dual licensed IIRC. the Mellanox import might > > have made it 100% BSD licensed though. > > > > There's FreeBSD-infiniband@freebsd.org as well. It's a low traffic list, > > but it might hit a better target audience in the future. > > > > Cheers, > > -NGie > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Sep 3 20:25:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B2E9C9C14 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 20:25:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffm@frob.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17EC278 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 20:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffm@frob.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id EDD059C9C13; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 20:25:27 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D119C9C0D for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 20:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffm@frob.org) Received: from server283.com (server283.com [64.14.68.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DF33275 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 20:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffm@frob.org) Received: (qmail 28369 invoked by uid 503); 3 Sep 2015 20:18:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.100.131?) (jeffm@98.203.199.57) by server283.com with ESMTPA; 3 Sep 2015 20:18:46 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: GPL issues around OFED code in FreeBSD 9.1 From: Jeff Meegan In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 13:18:32 -0700 Cc: "K. Macy" , "net@freebsd.org" , Hrishikesh Keremane , "hackers@freebsd.org" , Garrett Cooper , Vijay Singh Message-Id: <7FF6BFC8-0031-4E40-AB38-75B5FD4EF466@frob.org> References: <5BFB9010-159A-44EE-BB9A-A4E445383AA2@yahoo.com> To: Jack Vogel X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 20:25:28 -0000 According to their EULA, it is BSD licensed. http://www.mellanox.com/page/mlnx_ofed_eula?mtag=3Dlinux_sw_drivers = =E2=80=94j > On Sep 3, 2015, at 1:07 PM, Jack Vogel wrote: >=20 > We (meaning Intel when I was still there) raised this issue with = George a > long time ago, I'm not sure > what the resolution was. >=20 > If Mellanox is the owner then they should have released the code = somewhere > without any > GPL license in it, as Intel does with code they multi-license. >=20 > Jack >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 12:07 PM, K. Macy wrote: >=20 >> On Sep 3, 2015 10:33 AM, "Vijay Singh" wrote: >>>=20 >>> Someone told me that once the OFED code hit kernel.org the GPL is = the >> only >>> license that applies. Does anyone have insights about that? >>=20 >> That sounds bizarre since mellanox wrote the code and explicitly dual >> licensed. >>=20 >> The problem you *do* run in to is code creep. The Linux internal = interfaces >> are almost certainly totally undocumented, so a clean room = reimplementation >> as they change or bugs get fixed - changing behaviors - is not = possible. >> Over time the tendency is to copy and paste from Linux to OFED or the = shim >> layer creating real ambiguity about provenance. In practice it's not = so >> much of a problem because Linus tends to adhere to an interpretation = of the >> GPLv2 that is not vendor unfriendly the way some of his lieutenants = would >> prefer (see Greg's efforts to call closed source drivers derived = works). >>=20 >> Nonetheless, if you're paranoid an audit is in order. >>=20 >> Cheers. >>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Garrett Cooper = >>> wrote: >>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On Aug 31, 2015, at 09:34, Hrishikesh Keremane via freebsd-hackers = < >>>> freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> [Sorry for cross posting] >>>>>=20 >>>>> Hi, >>>>>=20 >>>>> We are working on a product(FreeBSD based) that would require RDMA >> over >>>> iWARP and are considering using the OFED stack in FreeBSD 9.1. >>>>> We will be making some changes to the OFED stack to customize it = to >> our >>>> requirements. >>>>>=20 >>>>> The concern is regarding the implications of GPL licensing of OFED = on >>>> our code base. >>>>> Has anyone worked with OFED in FreeBSD and/or is aware of the >> licensing >>>> issues around it? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Thanks in advance for your help. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Please include me in your replies as I am not subscribed to these >> lists. >>>>=20 >>>> The OFED stack is BSD/GPLv2 dual licensed IIRC. the Mellanox import >> might >>>> have made it 100% BSD licensed though. >>>>=20 >>>> There's FreeBSD-infiniband@freebsd.org as well. It's a low traffic >> list, >>>> but it might hit a better target audience in the future. >>>>=20 >>>> Cheers, >>>> -NGie >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Sep 3 20:07:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490079C92E2 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 20:07:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D8718D2 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 20:07:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 222389C92DC; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 20:07:05 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219309C92DA; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 20:07:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x232.google.com (mail-wi0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2FDF18CC; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 20:07:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: by wicge5 with SMTP id ge5so85334225wic.0; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 13:07:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=cQouZsnwV7/aSzxQCC7bDuq6DHZisqUj8LiLLoh0PeA=; b=dSS3Y1dPtCH5TSOI5TuRGE7054DMDHbhWsTrTLpfbieQ3LQboxZgkxjytjvcv1vx79 ZP6xUbU8zDr6v+Hsj2U8U+0h+ZYPQ1MhW1MMv03gXj8TPGkA4nameYRco4pd1Cs6ASiW ZvU/pbP2RI6jxJEn5gnaKVdG1pGzcLqRYY0RLqcKhzA7NUbcjdwEEy3ImLfTPbfcOWq3 Lv+LfKez/RuTf9sOB6Lb7EkAgunBdHsE3XDx87/ppsbT1l+G7VbHqvbR83V4dPK6Ydsu LLfdXfuoX1i1dpHmol1pHr1JRela9MocoirdSmeJvRllv1NQZaSEx+IeLLrNRMJ0LinV DQwQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.104.39 with SMTP id gb7mr54433357wjb.150.1441310823083; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 13:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.158.101 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 13:07:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5BFB9010-159A-44EE-BB9A-A4E445383AA2@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 13:07:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GPL issues around OFED code in FreeBSD 9.1 From: Jack Vogel To: "K. Macy" Cc: Vijay Singh , Hrishikesh Keremane , "hackers@freebsd.org" , Garrett Cooper , "net@freebsd.org" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 20:38:39 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 20:07:05 -0000 We (meaning Intel when I was still there) raised this issue with George a long time ago, I'm not sure what the resolution was. If Mellanox is the owner then they should have released the code somewhere without any GPL license in it, as Intel does with code they multi-license. Jack On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 12:07 PM, K. Macy wrote: > On Sep 3, 2015 10:33 AM, "Vijay Singh" wrote: > > > > Someone told me that once the OFED code hit kernel.org the GPL is the > only > > license that applies. Does anyone have insights about that? > > That sounds bizarre since mellanox wrote the code and explicitly dual > licensed. > > The problem you *do* run in to is code creep. The Linux internal interfaces > are almost certainly totally undocumented, so a clean room reimplementation > as they change or bugs get fixed - changing behaviors - is not possible. > Over time the tendency is to copy and paste from Linux to OFED or the shim > layer creating real ambiguity about provenance. In practice it's not so > much of a problem because Linus tends to adhere to an interpretation of the > GPLv2 that is not vendor unfriendly the way some of his lieutenants would > prefer (see Greg's efforts to call closed source drivers derived works). > > Nonetheless, if you're paranoid an audit is in order. > > Cheers. > > > > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Garrett Cooper > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Aug 31, 2015, at 09:34, Hrishikesh Keremane via freebsd-hackers < > > > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > [Sorry for cross posting] > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > We are working on a product(FreeBSD based) that would require RDMA > over > > > iWARP and are considering using the OFED stack in FreeBSD 9.1. > > > > We will be making some changes to the OFED stack to customize it to > our > > > requirements. > > > > > > > > The concern is regarding the implications of GPL licensing of OFED on > > > our code base. > > > > Has anyone worked with OFED in FreeBSD and/or is aware of the > licensing > > > issues around it? > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > > > > > > > Please include me in your replies as I am not subscribed to these > lists. > > > > > > The OFED stack is BSD/GPLv2 dual licensed IIRC. the Mellanox import > might > > > have made it 100% BSD licensed though. > > > > > > There's FreeBSD-infiniband@freebsd.org as well. It's a low traffic > list, > > > but it might hit a better target audience in the future. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > -NGie > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Sep 3 23:07:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4D79CA456; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 23:07:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (bigwig.baldwin.cx [IPv6:2001:470:1f11:75::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A97421029; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 23:07:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from ralph.baldwin.cx (c-73-231-226-104.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [73.231.226.104]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C01C0B941; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 19:07:11 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Nomad Esst Cc: "freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Get pci slot number in driver Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 15:57:15 -0700 Message-ID: <8357967.OxrZP5NxFz@ralph.baldwin.cx> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.2-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.14.3; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <1473579278.716147.1440404222458.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1473579278.716147.1440404222458.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Thu, 03 Sep 2015 19:07:11 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 23:07:12 -0000 On Monday, August 24, 2015 08:17:02 AM Nomad Esst via freebsd-hackers wrote: > Is it possible to find out the pci slot number on which the card is mounted in driver? I tried pci_get_slot but it's always 0.Any ideas about doing this? > regards It depends on what you mean by slot. If you mean the label of the physical slot in a chassis / motherboard, then there is no reliable way to determine this. (There are some PCI extended capabilities that I've never seen in the wild that can communicate this. There are various firmware tables ($PIR and SMBIOS) on x86 that can in theory tell you this, but it's a crap shoot whether the tables are correct or a pack of lies. If you want to determine the "device" field of a PCI device's (bus, device, function) config space access, you can use pci_get_slot() (FreeBSD calls it a slot even though the standard name in the PCI spec is "device" for legacy reasons as in original PCI a physical slot did have a unique "device" address on a given bus). -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Sep 3 23:08:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BC29CA4FB for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 23:08:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621C8117F for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 23:08:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 5D1D79CA4F8; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 23:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C519CA4F7; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 23:08:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x22e.google.com (mail-pa0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F674117D; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 23:08:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: by pacex6 with SMTP id ex6so4223053pac.0; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 16:08:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=YjXKeJVvXBjsZYIiq4e+ipdI5KoJmu4L8DS62OHxAzs=; b=Qi7USCpL2YEhJOH4q2FS2ztBhQ7mmaHkAHs0T7DnqdUGasEK2f0Sp0I0ZVBSLF+rer 5TLWDn5ndyuhO3ZZBCkkpxfCc8EzzkDksFkz1BcdR1DQL1s2HzNxYA2ywZ5sI30/FFnN GgoquXoCARvFQvGMhvxQfzE8ckmzg4WGpFsZ6/M+tVzJLkC9LL8dqHmg8P32wn0RxXFj imR3HZOzUkmH1wZkTSAZmknkjt/QgfBtZTpdBoyij0pEYzyxKFarohM37+douaiCyrcg 7XLVYKy4tdxPnr4ewe07GLbT+ln7uE1CFTUN9KA673AOvQcyVAFxsdM/mPcXhkFBNmJr qCyw== X-Received: by 10.68.69.70 with SMTP id c6mr1007082pbu.28.1441321710382; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 16:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [33.167.141.194] ([172.56.33.24]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id dh9sm206055pdb.67.2015.09.03.16.08.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 03 Sep 2015 16:08:29 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: GPL issues around OFED code in FreeBSD 9.1 From: Garrett Cooper X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12H321) In-Reply-To: <7FF6BFC8-0031-4E40-AB38-75B5FD4EF466@frob.org> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 16:08:28 -0700 Cc: Jack Vogel , "K. Macy" , "net@freebsd.org" , Hrishikesh Keremane , "hackers@freebsd.org" , Vijay Singh Message-Id: References: <5BFB9010-159A-44EE-BB9A-A4E445383AA2@yahoo.com> <7FF6BFC8-0031-4E40-AB38-75B5FD4EF466@frob.org> To: Jeff Meegan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 23:08:31 -0000 > On Sep 3, 2015, at 13:18, Jeff Meegan wrote: > > According to their EULA, it is BSD licensed. > > http://www.mellanox.com/page/mlnx_ofed_eula?mtag=linux_sw_drivers Yes, but the 9.1 version wasn't strictly from Mellanox.. I don't know if I'd use the pre-Mellanox version though, tbh. Thanks, -NGie From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Fri Sep 4 01:33:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6A59CA9E8 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 01:33:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starkbeats@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x22f.google.com (mail-la0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 588451C96 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 01:33:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starkbeats@gmail.com) Received: by lagj9 with SMTP id j9so4213131lag.2 for ; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 18:33:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version; bh=kf2arXJOlnmb99vNAU31D8FM5cKWrWF4klRrTiIm6ps=; b=hZPIpqxciprVDqWw8IYLD5edARquuZJT9/S4LFgCO4Lfh96tmrrTUpu7M7tM1auULz NhQ/PKyGwr+kYYDBGYldCtPVXV4xbA3/xAfX3rvW5fOAfnT79/Cv0AQMNDC+6kDsxlKy u8qElnYAX7Wwlyt5nOnd6DTRnOVi0nLMuqteDbB4glTb9DQhLX8oXXMWBvvsmFCeS84x yJhT/rkTcfHHHfp6nccW/C/0gfW7ZWqMgu4QpKUEK3GCs78QIXsK6LjaCZUepRPdc7cE CU/wUz1IBijyUupwpXYByEelMp76u4JFyPljlYi8eu4Juglys5hoiIrYYhgtsLTcCWbK k+RA== X-Received: by 10.152.5.68 with SMTP id q4mr959439laq.66.1441330403325; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 18:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (c83-251-248-85.bredband.comhem.se. [83.251.248.85]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x10sm170652lal.0.2015.09.03.18.33.22 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 03 Sep 2015 18:33:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Fredrik Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Setting up network from virtual machine Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 03:35:51 +0200 Message-Id: To: FreeBSD Hackers Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 01:33:25 -0000 Hello, This is I assume quite a basic issue. I'm trying to run FreeBSD 10.2 = from a memory stick in a virtual machine. I have an issue with the = network however. I first tried this in qemu and later tried in = VirtualBox in the hopes that would work better. In VirtualBox I have set = the network interface to bridge to my native interface, called en0 = Ethernet. If I try ifconfig em0 I see that the interface is active but no IP = address is assigned. I tried to add a default route in /etc/rc.conf set = to: defaultrouter=3D"192.168.100.1" which is the IP of my router. I then = rebooted the VM, but netstat -rn shows empty space under routing tables. Could someone tell me what's going on here, or if I miss something (very = likely).=20 From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Fri Sep 4 01:53:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63D89C9391 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 01:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allanjude@freebsd.org) Received: from mx1.scaleengine.net (mx1.scaleengine.net [209.51.186.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D24664 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 01:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allanjude@freebsd.org) Received: from [10.1.1.2] (unknown [10.1.1.2]) (Authenticated sender: allanjude.freebsd@scaleengine.com) by mx1.scaleengine.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 72EEF9A06 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 01:53:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Setting up network from virtual machine To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: From: Allan Jude Message-ID: <55E8F9E8.9030005@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 21:54:48 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PShBPXkDCIdbTHnDBcus2lIKA8CF1SdtD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 01:53:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --PShBPXkDCIdbTHnDBcus2lIKA8CF1SdtD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2015-09-03 21:35, Fredrik wrote: > Hello, >=20 > This is I assume quite a basic issue. I'm trying to run FreeBSD 10.2 fr= om a memory stick in a virtual machine. I have an issue with the network = however. I first tried this in qemu and later tried in VirtualBox in the = hopes that would work better. In VirtualBox I have set the network interf= ace to bridge to my native interface, called en0 Ethernet. >=20 > If I try ifconfig em0 I see that the interface is active but no IP addr= ess is assigned. I tried to add a default route in /etc/rc.conf set to: d= efaultrouter=3D"192.168.100.1" which is the IP of my router. I then reboo= ted the VM, but netstat -rn shows empty space under routing tables. >=20 > Could someone tell me what's going on here, or if I miss something (ver= y likely).=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 You cannot have a default route until you have an IP address. I assume you are expecting an automatic IP address via DHCP? so add: ifconfig_em0=3D"DHCP" or run 'dhclient em0' if you want to do it manually --=20 Allan Jude --PShBPXkDCIdbTHnDBcus2lIKA8CF1SdtD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJV6PnrAAoJEBmVNT4SmAt+Kh8P/AqqrQrsAB57FYskpiiM0qgi V2aZh14vK0d4vbtxYJ+6kbfm+tfnVc/1odiwnPzp2h0geD7cX4xq6milnGuGmerT +JnXSrlq8nG3NMZmz2OtHmtVVZQsqUZsdkfZ8d8PmnbKJ8FGOGKBeeepIVIWaI2n eNuIi6vdft4Q0yrNyy0H1H9bED6EBetd3VbqiGZqKGCFr40h45x62fj1CGn5TUW0 3wobr9OvlXv1UX7c8yEOC0i2GwTde7P4G/DUQsvGdE3kGaHeQFlp2jWOeiu6tt8D K+vz7E1gTrCotRbRSyDuPZg0Qo4LZSeENP2VeyI2w8vG9dhSA/kqGRAPsKS0odMd VAqv3rMjvh2qJiEqb8h9WaqCC2rkBarL0PHm4lTJNA/ht97ZEniaGP2OJNclEp9r YDpiLqiVqB+fMCCQflVFQGGde+W4q8KYlpxH6am+BiFmDHkepYFcKkr8ltFa0U15 t7B30hxkmw4UNK1LaOR6B/Zw8Y4hUBhWVh/JnreJVbfMM4TgpxfWDv2GVhmG/Deu 3WeC8MaqarEGFUcrC/tSA1DqnwGpPhyOwlIaJcFVztoBaVqGI54w4/4S1cfUe3ku e+07SEO7BdnY0dEwUXB6+jjHEftvsqy4qVgSWY6qA3g2umkGu1ftj9vysz1FQRcv I26hLpQA3s4ylOl0ro5I =xa2u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PShBPXkDCIdbTHnDBcus2lIKA8CF1SdtD-- From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Fri Sep 4 02:12:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6C39C9D1B for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 02:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starkbeats@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-x22e.google.com (mail-lb0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 996A3D4A; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 02:12:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starkbeats@gmail.com) Received: by lbpo4 with SMTP id o4so3798930lbp.2; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 19:12:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=imjYKPU5OWSqV6v64k8vKbKImn8Z0x51brbqgWEHYsM=; b=zm9nclL9U9y1gN3LVi4uPcqXM1a4Gq6aXDJVmKKK7zFG/tivnIf0e/6RF9ZyUUj7sK 1dZIm3Ru6Ac003/35VMov4hRC5wohVKcCmBrgkCZgpkSOWqwBZPaP0u+5a+Ed3YvHOEv tMQmhsPPYhqzDQN0lRLqGvPjbI1CetmQWZvnkW8wmWOYLoPTH9BBVZVlbyE0wqoo1Pt1 Y4T5Fx+UP1ryxAa5pGiWBX6b6ANp6yj2riqUdc6BGDZm93FRFoZXGY3ke3lvrUW6LcUO JzH7zoYm7vlnTNaLIcfcsUE5rY0dnVDGivzokKqpEF5/44oe6VUfaGv/kwKYnodeahm9 ahQw== X-Received: by 10.152.23.234 with SMTP id p10mr1093817laf.52.1441332739608; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 19:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (c83-251-248-85.bredband.comhem.se. [83.251.248.85]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w5sm187631laa.17.2015.09.03.19.12.18 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 03 Sep 2015 19:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Setting up network from virtual machine Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Fredrik In-Reply-To: <55E8F9E8.9030005@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 04:15:07 +0200 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <55E8F9E8.9030005@freebsd.org> To: Allan Jude X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 02:12:22 -0000 Allan, thank you. The ifconfig setting was set to msk0, I commented out = this and added em0. Resolved this issue. Fredrik 4 sep 2015 kl. 03.54 skrev Allan Jude: > On 2015-09-03 21:35, Fredrik wrote: >> Hello, >>=20 >> This is I assume quite a basic issue. I'm trying to run FreeBSD 10.2 = from a memory stick in a virtual machine. I have an issue with the = network however. I first tried this in qemu and later tried in = VirtualBox in the hopes that would work better. In VirtualBox I have set = the network interface to bridge to my native interface, called en0 = Ethernet. >>=20 >> If I try ifconfig em0 I see that the interface is active but no IP = address is assigned. I tried to add a default route in /etc/rc.conf set = to: defaultrouter=3D"192.168.100.1" which is the IP of my router. I then = rebooted the VM, but netstat -rn shows empty space under routing tables. >>=20 >> Could someone tell me what's going on here, or if I miss something = (very likely).=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>=20 >=20 > You cannot have a default route until you have an IP address. I assume > you are expecting an automatic IP address via DHCP? >=20 > so add: >=20 > ifconfig_em0=3D"DHCP" >=20 > or run 'dhclient em0' if you want to do it manually >=20 > --=20 > Allan Jude >=20 From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Fri Sep 4 10:04:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2A09CACD8 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 10:04:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdison16@yahoo.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178D0A03 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 10:04:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdison16@yahoo.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 13ED19CACD7; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 10:04:35 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDA49CACD6 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 10:04:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdison16@yahoo.com) Received: from nm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B20A4A02 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 10:04:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdison16@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1441361067; bh=9zf8thnFB47jEA3xaFkvvuhpMK04TQDcW77wNg6uLiQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:From:Subject; b=noCXVvhktyL0Ughqif3r7VL1doWrwmi7pSFXrcbXYaPA6lKHRw+VoEjf7mz4nslsbhR/PARMvUwP8pUgZGTIOOtxB8Cq6Kt9vCyuUSgP8Qn3qbS/p82FALVtXfYU2+7ruQT/GMb2fYDGUUu+zfWuxhZdObzIoHcXJ1bmhK1Bm0KVM/a2dxMOiIWacKWInQs5HqepjgHQDh9aOYikQvm6DYwBZ5ZtKhtATDtPknABnnA3Buj5t1ysNlPNxFA0lMLlwPwoKLbNxTREE30o1fQ90NlvI+Y1cVg3Bq1bmetUd5VtIQHy3SDIgEGCyK/1NqWKuwxs7nLn+GnIJSDBJE8KLg== Received: from [66.196.81.170] by nm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2015 10:04:27 -0000 Received: from [98.139.215.230] by tm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2015 10:04:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1070.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2015 10:04:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 609040.41734.bm@omp1070.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: LxqUWuYVM1mLk1a8dr.v02G6myYumRt4PGuLfyKGwo0Bdodi0Q48xq7IslQGpPZ Zt_XsEZCV9R1119Nt4aAXocxOONI7jVyV3KLdTduGXjyK6mum3i0l3Hnvs7Pot7pGN5LMcQG53Cm w9bNbO84ptUhF6S0TZrKV6CeHnAcLPbvVQ5RllDVhKgve53xVTlcAW8SwEyCmnDhV_gufwZ0BKio .OiqCJJzg1Ej7QfzwmZEtM6bJEHM5D3hGa_C1v3Sep1EjmuOYufyQ_6Goqeg.ouZaC3bT7..ktzE us51Iz5SpZTYXz1Gj9FSB57R2dC0hET6hpVwOrHhQv47iQHe8Q_WFDCxoBc0tqQunQ.vvxKjQI3F AM.ADZY5CdfpG6nfKqu5kop5MMv7FuehMeeA_vu2gcDfTAQa09PRmgQvqG4Djir59eKvfObPTXBd LCVmM8ABQMMlU2PwC3693bRvm.ogttU7r5mziZG9Tc4bOGkfczGOycabyoixx_bA8kUcbDGYmhJ2 Fqw-- Received: by 66.196.81.117; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 10:04:27 +0000 Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 10:04:25 +0000 (UTC) From: John Dison Reply-To: John Dison To: "hackers@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <74900131.1451330.1441361065012.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Kernel crash dumps and swap MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 10:04:35 -0000 Hello,according to=C2=A0Chapter=C2=A010.=C2=A0Kernel Debugging "The=C2=A0dumpon(8)=C2=A0program must be called after the swap partition ha= s been configured with=C2=A0swapon(8)." This sounds ridiculous: why should I enable swap in my system in order to b= e able to obtain a crash dump?Isn't it a mistake in documentation? I understand that I must label swap partition, but actually *enabling* swap= looks unrelated to crash dumps. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Fri Sep 4 10:28:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82FF69C9A23 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 10:28:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 243311904 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 10:28:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: by wiclk2 with SMTP id lk2so13089482wic.1 for ; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 03:28:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2+QubvquJB23KHRHlyZa6uZtJg5mfjTH83fius/P018=; b=EQOYfp6kHjJ9/XlB5pvStDobGHECUloawUWhivOePs09MQICZKAJZcQRqAIBTS73x/ XmTB65aUySjnXF7QiWHTupgWRSF7mkhxtE7zXjnSQ7T6MK1W6Qrxf0duJTi5Q/cUSLFg PXPaJA5K8U616r/L2NzN0bzXHT6p2ckK0DBQ6dVpc1AQl6dVZL2w3xB8vtxVYBwHEE57 aEVFY/d3+vqWxk1zQBhi1QTqc0bjZllBT3vyQLUEUEC7yqvPWkxI6yZjEtrbGfNJ0/qU XPeMIfy9a3FFr5P7RCQE70H63oB3nv7tnS/Mb8LmkVU/m2gHCKPfiGX588DxH4qv25DA lZ6g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmlN7/ACxNSvfO+d1g6q52TZ5WtvoSA4Y+CAt4GKBw5CtpDKXkp+H9kMFDwac1aCsb9CSDF X-Received: by 10.180.19.9 with SMTP id a9mr6131150wie.5.1441362510470; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 03:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.10.1.68] (82-69-141-170.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk. [82.69.141.170]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v8sm3229549wjr.15.2015.09.04.03.28.29 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 04 Sep 2015 03:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Kernel crash dumps and swap To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <74900131.1451330.1441361065012.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> From: Steven Hartland Message-ID: <55E97248.80009@multiplay.co.uk> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 11:28:24 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <74900131.1451330.1441361065012.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 10:28:38 -0000 That's correct as the default for dumpdev="auto" in rc.conf is for dump to use swap devices, so in order for dump to locate a device to dump to in this case swap must be enabled. Regards Steve On 04/09/2015 11:04, John Dison via freebsd-hackers wrote: > Hello,according to Chapter 10. Kernel Debugging > "The dumpon(8) program must be called after the swap partition has been configured with swapon(8)." > > This sounds ridiculous: why should I enable swap in my system in order to be able to obtain a crash dump?Isn't it a mistake in documentation? > I understand that I must label swap partition, but actually *enabling* swap looks unrelated to crash dumps. > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Fri Sep 4 10:43:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D4C9CA2B2 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 10:43:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noname.esst@yahoo.com) Received: from nm4-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm4-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53F388AA for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 10:43:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noname.esst@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1441363052; bh=3YXjyDVxosqhgiKrw6+4y5eHt9KyXAmAlUfvAcYn3Cs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:From:Subject; b=QGxbJtmXPih7VwMd/5YqigktekAjDp3zSbQXQUddZfV5XIIbqGKpJ3CDLke9dDCK7gTfHOs6s5kNHDIsmS7yxwrAdTZ33JXSs+A78To1xqCjhIjH9LKAo91+xYoQVkAVo1ZtSzCKRT8ZU/Z0YGkBt3eeZFQqH2stIhp4i9kzXIcrOvAh3uL+X7qpDQpdlL2eSu2NNr5ZQFnfHGsHCVmGbHFGACIZD9nAz+ekp9R1FZ21MlPnWnMeSdmpZE0nany9JqbrvY3HemOavRLWPf2KLcuxJeF8NLrx39TlDqYo63CQ0nnur08NrQspTO/VZyqwUmhsGhqqaoFxRUOZXYnU5g== Received: from [98.138.101.132] by nm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2015 10:37:32 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.5] by tm20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2015 10:37:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2015 10:37:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 176579.64844.bm@omp1005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: ymxtVEQVM1np.37CbZ1Ys8NXXC.st3CmV2qBc76lqrg9.U2higFhK2ljyok.1D0 b8wcF__acyeVBBlSe_ENxkMVXbz481jQ2esW48lCnCmL2DbjVXlj9vP2rZNWs6u8Sb9AXoOD5GiM phPuGTKwUqwhpSjQrvkSlef8MUzBhl_tSTpq_j5rr7_WApXRpLgKyAvjRv1nGr4tY.OscrreIdXz ViprMdG9cqiwU7CR9exkmBrGzHVr6lrln3Pml87EdiTrh2FqkOAtuqDx_cNz72pJyEd3rHt.bS4F QwyEwO.LnaEW69SA.pmgZIVqm7H2n0LKr1PQ5k6NA_CYkO5gd3GpHNh8bQF1O7suOkYOq7ubgOW1 XKHDLLBTFkXQ5QEKfrWLc_tUt4ZKA3pRd.oLhV_fsLoRNPTFDAUaziztDofahY11WErSx8X8E.rL Wj9b9mSnzcQyWtef7pjox3aE16RhWmckoGR0Ugx51nWi6qsSHMi6kA34- Received: by 98.138.105.193; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 10:37:31 +0000 Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 10:37:31 +0000 (UTC) From: Nomad Esst Reply-To: Nomad Esst To: "freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD Net , Freebsd Hackers List Message-ID: <740628555.1564144.1441363051289.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: FreeBSD em, igb driver question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 10:43:41 -0000 Hi allDuring some performance tests, we found out some weird problems. We u= se a shell script that do the following : do from 1 to 10Shutdown em/igb interfacesleep 3Bring em/igb interface uptcp= replay -i em0 -l ospf_hello.pcap=C2=A0sleep3end By running this shell on one side we expect 10 ospf hello packets to get ar= rived at the other side, but tcpdump (on the other side) shows 4, sometimes= 8 and etc ... (not all 10 packets are arrived at the other side).We test t= his scenario with a Cisco router, and all packets are received at the Cisco= side. What causes this packet loss in FreeBSD (maybe in em or igb drivers)= ?I know that this scenario may not have any use in the real world, but I'm = curious, why Cisco don't have such behavior.Thanks in advance. Regards. From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Fri Sep 4 10:55:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D738A9CA85F for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 10:55:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdison16@yahoo.com) Received: from nm21-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm21-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A37BFE0 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 10:55:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdison16@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1441364011; bh=vokRPgGs8QMq7P/gVVSpkUKxfJVZGlPc2bHD+gv6LrA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=l0FfhOP0tZXQn5BS6qNYcmw+0AJsUa4gQ1LuQ9/wn1UaUyauodnmyRPaiYPS827n9m2QNxq2xCTRFCY1YK1p0xGwEJU29zzoIdgIU2TP/aVklMFJvycz+dI+XLCNZfTjfIUWI1/Wh6H29eEQN0ZLELeMtpET514Iwab/OeYtbaZ41rwrsmmuLVbpHv2m7yo8pUgnUO6qHmIo6jL7kVLAoA/ZnIlsh0nx+IJR9ZVVy+NLAMgfwbeDQDhS7hddYtpmUBWaxQbYWK+4iBYUM56fG6VQmKvE9SrQ7lWYWOh+vD0OgPVXfEdBU5czgqnuq0ZaIBUnc/nhtWxvuYokSkSufA== Received: from [98.139.215.143] by nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2015 10:53:31 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.228] by tm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2015 10:53:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1037.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2015 10:53:31 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 359345.97791.bm@omp1037.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: ZLzivxUVM1nlHpkss3Lk58cDU7KnO8h5t_WToxKhfGt5PQZFyXemkQQSN4EhDN3 9cJfYO7g3L8SyNZbSgfwp3sXqGHUBG5gO9QuA4TuqAjwedqHe5q9geFNV6n97Hxuslrz.6qJH4FE fHnBvjtU7DR0_c6AKrEBbxm3DLgeUfX4oYhNNVKYuEGQthemhezREQGtTDOsJyZy8lAcGl9iiXdd fO8TH9nDbdWf.zyR4WmzrZAyWw2jed7sdetrbnEspkgJ52Wsejmyq7moSD9n1jx.iITA0f6lbyCJ p61Ng8c5xzcKngepsmKiDRSAzL0gb9fl5UtEBkkAyvz0lzaqH4He1OaAgzamiBqK5SpA3Vphi1Q9 QHxFbk7lPAn8tcqN2NNjI62q0ELGeoc67m7Km4jMRw25ERg7eFJdLruuvNiEBPvoRjYWJar3LtNe 540oTtLpXLWOspVrgu9y7Oa8en8KIK3FxSnyLw5VHGOpCPam8gYVR0Q-- Received: by 66.196.80.121; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 10:53:30 +0000 Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 10:53:30 +0000 (UTC) From: John Dison Reply-To: John Dison To: Steven Hartland , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <1660801547.1426758.1441364010636.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <55E97248.80009@multiplay.co.uk> References: <55E97248.80009@multiplay.co.uk> Subject: Re: Kernel crash dumps and swap MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 10:55:42 -0000 So if I use dumpdev="/path/to/dev" I can have kernel crash dumps without swap enabled?This should be clarified in documentation IMO, right now I have an impression that swap is mandatory for crash dumps to work. From: Steven Hartland To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 1:28 PM Subject: Re: Kernel crash dumps and swap That's correct as the default for dumpdev="auto" in rc.conf is for dump to use swap devices, so in order for dump to locate a device to dump to in this case swap must be enabled. From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Fri Sep 4 12:32:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34579C9F97 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 12:32:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84BEDB74 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 12:32:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from tom.home (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kib.kiev.ua (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t84CWSR6064804 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 4 Sep 2015 15:32:29 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua t84CWSR6064804 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id t84CWSuJ064803; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 15:32:28 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 15:32:28 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov To: John Dison Cc: Steven Hartland , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Kernel crash dumps and swap Message-ID: <20150904123228.GI2072@kib.kiev.ua> References: <55E97248.80009@multiplay.co.uk> <1660801547.1426758.1441364010636.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1660801547.1426758.1441364010636.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FREEMAIL_FROM,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on tom.home X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 12:32:34 -0000 On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 10:53:30AM +0000, John Dison via freebsd-hackers wrote: > So if I use dumpdev="/path/to/dev" I can have kernel crash dumps without swap enabled?This should be clarified in documentation IMO, right now I have an impression that swap is mandatory for crash dumps to work. Swap and dump uses are separate. You can put dump on swap, but you can not put it as well. On my test machines I usually do not mix them, because crash dumps are precious during testing. From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Fri Sep 4 13:15:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9169C931B for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 13:15:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from mail-wi0-f173.google.com (mail-wi0-f173.google.com [209.85.212.173]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75D0914A8 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 13:15:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: by wibz8 with SMTP id z8so17386969wib.1 for ; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 06:15:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=ttwx2AhyeLEG/TV26coSNbw6Sf0zqZbbQs83N7sQiTY=; b=aa+mYy1+FwjGD6z6LCkwYzhEb5/Riegou5Yxw1bkSG81ozSeQtyj+NdLE66zkxoqkF 8v7KITNZz3dlIbPLLk+GM3EbfQXRjMMCY4iYsiiTskp2pOb+pUNh8tKSMl7oPLv+oEc3 YkPLGVaIph5Y4ufI8MwOK9q8IxCKYlNEH6wiFuQGHzSDg9A5CsDvscohEi55JK52Din4 mIv2YBs5yqsDF7HeRhy3MbAD3eN2749j2rzXaRZ2E7nuJtCWMguw9JFLoSu8zozVhi6R gF40m3hpgWgGW0WvbDSIwtu7AdxuUU1+XGGSly+QPap967/v5W7AJi5YHaLiqw0N7dKs /HMA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkABkE2ctbZ6g9HTSWati4lAFJ8jhvDirCBcx3TfThs4+gEqxSmkjSqX/wenRChh/fihNnn X-Received: by 10.194.179.37 with SMTP id dd5mr6870244wjc.129.1441372508871; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 06:15:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.10.1.68] (82-69-141-170.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk. [82.69.141.170]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k12sm4073994wjw.4.2015.09.04.06.15.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 04 Sep 2015 06:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Kernel crash dumps and swap To: John Dison , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" References: <55E97248.80009@multiplay.co.uk> <1660801547.1426758.1441364010636.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> From: Steven Hartland Message-ID: <55E99956.9020507@multiplay.co.uk> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 14:15:02 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1660801547.1426758.1441364010636.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 13:15:12 -0000 That is correct, I would suggest raising a PR to get this clarified. On 04/09/2015 11:53, John Dison wrote: > So if I use dumpdev="/path/to/dev" I can have kernel crash dumps > without swap enabled? > This should be clarified in documentation IMO, right now I have an > impression that swap is mandatory for crash dumps to work. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Steven Hartland > *To:* freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org > *Sent:* Friday, September 4, 2015 1:28 PM > *Subject:* Re: Kernel crash dumps and swap > > That's correct as the default for dumpdev="auto" in rc.conf is for dump > to use swap devices, so in order for dump to locate a device to dump to > in this case swap must be enabled. > > From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Sat Sep 5 14:45:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7329CA024 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 2015 14:45:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noname.esst@yahoo.com) Received: from nm30-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm30-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA2711B4E for ; Sat, 5 Sep 2015 14:45:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noname.esst@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1441464329; bh=l+9ROq83L0yue49r0lIZUjrPDSW6zthCxe0VnuR4xrE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:From:Subject; b=c/0PNaF/QrE04AnBjW7wOpQ45Y59+EUYX1ZleJGr273Oi5oBK1A2isxbMX2rMb5Z659b1SPDJnhJUKQ77F7MTEmpSpxQadoygzfEpqlvQDSxRWExJ+Qp6+chL7w39HSD43uNizJTtg2YYmY/CQtYwCtQ+xiFy0Qq6s1tXleL3Bagv9t8YIQxBbB4zfOYRlZ8T7jferkDDfdW2M9d2YPeBCasaWULhHT2zKcSvH7+fWcYl76LyAj0/cCPG8MRRXtSPTdRsWCt1r4vJmb6VU5xU7m6oxpCSvjkl0FnChcu0FmpV4FLbyIm6lHhfRhyKP4pxoRtWnEW+i5CDDal0v+ffQ== Received: from [98.138.226.180] by nm30.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2015 14:45:29 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.168] by tm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2015 14:45:29 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1069.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2015 14:45:29 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 603009.12133.bm@omp1069.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: f9TJgfEVM1nkpFz85D8fSH4dNbGJ3qbDbGQ8SeZLoeUoOzuhJP34I4en88f7kYD Aq349hwsetRNbVi_MbiPskM3KMJ2GQkAaliNy__57I9rjiOsQCehN9YgeF8HfDyxqSI.xPB_nxod C.h_lf6sUNqW6CyIUk1vHy94802FqqO1oXHdfZOyzw_AFQZItw8vjDlT6VXwwbAj02hw.J0B39fv a31K5Fih24y.v4bR0EdqG.Ru96WeIogS.ENwIMIRopct9NC_e9ymxeR6prJIQBuPIg4FJ1ZWsS9Q 9NLMNJwOZUzDbxowSyNAZQVNJ2gclePnprXQXgNzLO1FZVye1zTPjHYlm2T2ITDUMNJu9Sehr00o OUeb6Nm0ZS74diyb0Sm0TgXy.SeQ2RC9__Bs.z9sz_iVV1rWfnBwsorFKBYQ34HtsaCYa.ow.r1c dcaUJEnIgJ5AiBLSkza7We9ujkQK3FnUW1OwtgFdevsh8CorerPkTQxRn_aCuvkFH62L3ePm30g_ Xzqx7E6foqMTbNOU- Received: by 98.138.105.202; Sat, 05 Sep 2015 14:45:29 +0000 Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2015 14:45:28 +0000 (UTC) From: Nomad Esst Reply-To: Nomad Esst To: Freebsd Hackers List Message-ID: <1636062446.2172895.1441464328758.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: em. igb performance test MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2015 14:45:36 -0000 Hi allDuring some performance tests, we found out some weird problems. We u= se a shell script that do the following : do from 1 to 10Shutdown em/igb interfacesleep 3Bring em/igb interface uptcp= replay -i em0 -l ospf_hello.pcap=C2=A0sleep3end By running this shell on one side we expect 10 ospf hello packets to get ar= rived at the other side, but tcpdump (on the other side) shows 4, sometimes= 8 and etc ... (not all 10 packets are arrived at the other side).We test t= his scenario with a Cisco router, and all packets are received at the Cisco= side. What causes this packet loss in FreeBSD (maybe in em or igb drivers)= ?I know that this scenario may not have any use in the real world, but I'm = curious, why Cisco don't have such behavior.Thanks in advance. Regards. From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Sat Sep 5 15:03:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635FA9CA923 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 2015 15:03:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1612E96D for ; Sat, 5 Sep 2015 15:03:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.84 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ZYEzt-000Jdh-RX; Sat, 05 Sep 2015 18:03:17 +0300 Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2015 18:03:17 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: Nomad Esst Cc: Freebsd Hackers List Subject: Re: em. igb performance test Message-ID: <20150905150317.GF21849@zxy.spb.ru> References: <1636062446.2172895.1441464328758.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1636062446.2172895.1441464328758.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2015 15:03:27 -0000 On Sat, Sep 05, 2015 at 02:45:28PM +0000, Nomad Esst via freebsd-hackers wrote: > Hi allDuring some performance tests, we found out some weird problems. We use a shell script that do the following : > do from 1 to 10Shutdown em/igb interfacesleep 3Bring em/igb interface uptcpreplay -i em0 -l ospf_hello.pcapšsleep3end > By running this shell on one side we expect 10 ospf hello packets to get arrived at the other side, but tcpdump (on the other side) shows 4, sometimes 8 and etc ... (not all 10 packets are arrived at the other side).We test this scenario with a Cisco router, and all packets are received at the Cisco side. What causes this packet loss in FreeBSD (maybe in em or igb drivers)?I know that this scenario may not have any use in the real world, but I'm curious, why Cisco don't have such behavior.Thanks in advance. uping interface not momentaly. packets sending to down interface will be lost. try to wait `status: active` before run tcpreplay. Also, check STP off on interconnect switch you port.