From owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Sun Jul 26 18:29:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351079AB9C0; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 18:29:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from isoa@kapsi.fi) Received: from mail.kapsi.fi (mx1.kapsi.fi [IPv6:2001:1bc8:1004::1:25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E55BD84E; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 18:29:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from isoa@kapsi.fi) Received: from 91-159-11-54.elisa-laajakaista.fi ([91.159.11.54] helo=[192.168.255.112]) by mail.kapsi.fi with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJQg7-0000Hz-51; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 21:29:39 +0300 Subject: Re: 10.1-RELEASE UEFI RAID0 ASUS M5A97 R2.0 AMD64 PhenomIIx6 To: CeDeROM , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org References: From: Arto Pekkanen X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <55B5270E.5060306@kapsi.fi> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 21:29:34 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Vpr0WEXnxjDNlCG3XDPM1u3641uFADKhG" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 91.159.11.54 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: isoa@kapsi.fi X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on mail.kapsi.fi); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 18:29:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Vpr0WEXnxjDNlCG3XDPM1u3641uFADKhG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 22.7.2015 10:57, CeDeROM wrote: > Hello there :-) >=20 > I have successfully installed and running FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE AMD64 > on ASUS M5A97 R2.0 AMD64 PhenomIIx6 using RAID0 booting with UEFI. >=20 > UEFI and GPT seems replacement for BIOS+MBR in modern PC hardware. You > can forget about BIOS+MBR in case of UEFI which is tightly related to > hardware/firmware. >=20 > What is best about FreeBSD that I also could to the setup on older > ASUS M4A88TD/V EVO/USB3.0 which did NOT support UEFI at all. RAID0 was > possible to accomplish in 4TB size with no problem. GPT support was > already there in FreeBSD. I have installed MBR bootloader which then > switched to GPT support. This setup was not possible for Windows nor > Linux which were limited to see two 2TB devices, even on RAID. Hale to > the FreeBSD!! :-) Gratz :) Although, I think it would be possible with Linux but you would have to u= se a DIY distro like Gentoo that doesn't hide all the features behind a c= ascade of automagic system management UI-dialogs or scripts. That being s= aid, haven't done a customized Linux installation for years now, since Fr= eeBSD + documentation enable me to more easily create a customized FreeBS= D installation for spesific tasks. > However, FreeBSD Boot and Kernel seems to work somehow different on > UEFI. There is no loader menu, there is no OS prompt. There is problem > with Xorg-NVidia driver which hangs the boot process at loader (you > need to use kld_list in rc.conf instead), and then hangs the computer > somewhere on screen blank. All seems new but familiar :-) That must be because UEFI depends on kms.ko to get a framebuffer console.= In this case it would be the kms/VESA module. So probably there's some k= ind of race condition between the kms/VESA framebuffer and nVidia kmod. Have you already checked if there's any PR about this? If not, you could = make one. I am sure this could be fixed easily. > Also installing OS on UEFI is somewhat different. You need to create a > dedicated EFI partition where boot code is loaded (using dd as > presented on uefi wiki). BSDInstall creates such partition but its > only 512k in size, while boot1.efifat is 800k. I have created separate > partition that is 100M and it works fine as well. I think installed > could increase the boot partition size, and then dd the boot1.efifat > over there during install on UEFI platform..? Hmm, this is something you should definitely make a PR for, if you can. Y= our description makes it seem like the BSDInstall scripts are a bit behin= d the actual UEFI boot stack. > FreeBSD IS THE BEST!! THANK YOU!! :-) > Tomek >=20 Thank you for describing your use case. This is valuable information :) --Vpr0WEXnxjDNlCG3XDPM1u3641uFADKhG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (MingW32) iF4EAREIAAYFAlW1JxIACgkQTBivhqtJa27TwQD8D8etc34KPc9Bw3/xjh4rjoRb LUSYIw5k2Ygz54JZs+sA/Aq2QEQG8ECfR8WkBPCAVHM6cFB4hsB4vJBWlAZ640kz =TeJ1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Vpr0WEXnxjDNlCG3XDPM1u3641uFADKhG-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Sun Jul 26 18:43:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C1A9ABDDA; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 18:43:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-x22b.google.com (mail-lb0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFEE0160; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 18:43:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by lbbzr7 with SMTP id zr7so41055983lbb.1; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 11:43:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8tY4ABoTd+W6v3V035iXx7PRBE0Eff5rmHLqXtTlvt8=; b=i9NmFGdIn6XJRLSV7ifaWFrWvjNPnfNr6KlY8Ez2AqgOoxlQM75dTpPv7TaCejnXBf H4IGBx7aPsK4KvlKlDomKQEertgMmF6x4NlJBn3/qdfomBAZC8fR69cjmp4rlvhDXkls 9e01fZDAOZgYs2QOZ2lWZ2LYrLzt4mHU0ePXbwyAfQwltkyB8ZBY8nQXBh9V6nFVp6yk 83ZKg1Y8sUJ+Pxoy/hAO+paiHBYQbfqEdA3IX2BmMGfIs8kTMhkz5Mje65IFk1eusHHk fmzBnUOCGBhA3d1ncPv4oFW02ZSI7pgSlVYRfiBgoIXGd6E6hTrzFwGMm58ue5917H53 IPoA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.42.205 with SMTP id q13mr23141377lal.119.1437936205773; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 11:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.152.45.5 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 11:43:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55B5270E.5060306@kapsi.fi> References: <55B5270E.5060306@kapsi.fi> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 20:43:25 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: oYkwRxeWWKgNmaadWQ5M9ee7pVQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: 10.1-RELEASE UEFI RAID0 ASUS M5A97 R2.0 AMD64 PhenomIIx6 From: CeDeROM To: Arto Pekkanen Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 18:43:28 -0000 On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Arto Pekkanen wrote: > Although, I think it would be possible with Linux but you would have to u= se a DIY distro like Gentoo that doesn't hide all the features behind a cas= cade of automagic system management UI-dialogs or scripts. That being said,= haven't done a customized Linux installation for years now, since FreeBSD = + documentation enable me to more easily create a customized FreeBSD instal= lation for spesific tasks. Well, I did not manage to install and boot Linux so far hahaha :-) Even Ubuntu install but does not boot! :-) > That must be because UEFI depends on kms.ko to get a framebuffer console.= In this case it would be the kms/VESA module. So probably there's some kin= d of race condition between the kms/VESA framebuffer and nVidia kmod. > Have you already checked if there's any PR about this? If not, you could = make one. I am sure this could be fixed easily. I have found some information over the net about buggy nvidia driver in UEFI mode. I have experienced repeatedly system crash when running Xorg+nVidia. I have made a PR :-) https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D201785 > Hmm, this is something you should definitely make a PR for, if you can. Y= our description makes it seem like the BSDInstall scripts are a bit behind = the actual UEFI boot stack. I will, thank you :-) > Thank you for describing your use case. This is valuable information :) You are most welcome :-) Thank you guys for great work! I really consider FreeBSD to be my favorite OS! Even after switching to OSX I came back to FreeBSD. Now I can safely work on OSX and FreeBSD and avoid Windows and Linux :-) :-) Best regards! :-) Tomek --=20 CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Sun Jul 26 19:01:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E659AB3F5; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 19:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x231.google.com (mail-la0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4170BC65; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 19:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by lagw2 with SMTP id w2so37565782lag.3; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 12:01:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=xHo6WDFTW+8MOB8xwHyMz3nLhOSWjceqA3D9V44VzPc=; b=jpK7yXHYd5mCDIUOX5Bg7GTgi33lEjw+AJ5AHrOGfGGKWew6mr4FxIdI2yiwRq0zaN J6k3wUyBkmzbZBENIm5HDer6RLJsruPoPqLkOPSVE/7Oey4jdGBK6OphQxzkqy75TQZW VpiHIwtA3aCQsBkHZMZuLOTHN7a3S0xzLKcadZnugmhakUWAdA315n6M+gEtaRBxpBmU wvIdzjbGicvmkNS/vliPWpVys+G4juRXfMtVr6a1oU/Ab+1jYnxH4YETgY35zDdUGgHV u7hk00lhEcVY8i32JzgBSXSLKPqEZo6TT/mRioCp0pgfMDv9wNQgA6G84ODbwyUehBSE WZiA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.205.1 with SMTP id lc1mr23497693lbc.94.1437937260352; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 12:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.152.45.5 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 12:01:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55B5270E.5060306@kapsi.fi> References: <55B5270E.5060306@kapsi.fi> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 21:01:00 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0_-V_YK93Wckrbpx_m3Gs6Nmdf0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 10.1-RELEASE UEFI RAID0 ASUS M5A97 R2.0 AMD64 PhenomIIx6 From: CeDeROM To: Arto Pekkanen Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 19:01:02 -0000 On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Arto Pekkanen wrote: >> Also installing OS on UEFI is somewhat different. You need to create a >> dedicated EFI partition where boot code is loaded (using dd as >> presented on uefi wiki). BSDInstall creates such partition but its >> only 512k in size, while boot1.efifat is 800k. I have created separate >> partition that is 100M and it works fine as well. I think installed >> could increase the boot partition size, and then dd the boot1.efifat >> over there during install on UEFI platform..? > > Hmm, this is something you should definitely make a PR for, if you can. Your description makes it seem like the BSDInstall scripts are a bit behind the actual UEFI boot stack. Consider it done Sir! :-) https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=201898 -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Tue Jul 28 17:17:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6967A9ADD91 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wjw@digiware.nl) Received: from smtp.digiware.nl (smtp.digiware.nl [31.223.170.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EF59C72 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:17:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wjw@digiware.nl) Received: from rack1.digiware.nl (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.digiware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C428A1534C4 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:17:05 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at digiware.nl Received: from smtp.digiware.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by rack1.digiware.nl (rack1.digiware.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FvsZ1CqIkh74; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:16:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:4cb8:3:1:b4ee:8245:44bf:42ef] (unknown [IPv6:2001:4cb8:3:1:b4ee:8245:44bf:42ef]) by smtp.digiware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E59153413 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:16:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <55B7B8FA.2060800@digiware.nl> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:16:42 +0200 From: Willem Jan Withagen Organization: Digiware Management b.v. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: L2 cache errors??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:17:16 -0000 Hi, Are these what I think they are? Errors in the CPU L2 cache? /var/log/messages:Jul 24 13:14:40 box kernel: MCA: Bank 3, Status 0x902000120120100e /var/log/messages:Jul 24 13:14:40 box kernel: MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000806, Status 0x0000000000000000 /var/log/messages:Jul 24 13:14:40 box kernel: MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x10676, APIC ID 2 /var/log/messages:Jul 24 13:14:40 box kernel: MCA: CPU 2 COR L2 memory error /var/log/messages:Jul 28 19:12:42 box kernel: MCA: Bank 3, Status 0x902000070220100e /var/log/messages:Jul 28 19:12:42 box kernel: MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000806, Status 0x0000000000000000 /var/log/messages:Jul 28 19:12:42 box kernel: MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x10676, APIC ID 0 /var/log/messages:Jul 28 19:12:42 box kernel: MCA: CPU 0 COR L2 memory error Are the ECC corrected? Or is error really "data kaput"? --WjW From owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Tue Jul 28 17:48:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47EC39AC98C for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:48:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smarthost.sentex.ca", Issuer "smarthost.sentex.ca" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1875A190D for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:48:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a] (saphire3.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id t6SHmGqv040147; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 13:48:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Subject: Re: L2 cache errors??? To: Willem Jan Withagen , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <55B7B8FA.2060800@digiware.nl> From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications Message-ID: <55B7C059.5020701@sentex.net> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 13:48:09 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55B7B8FA.2060800@digiware.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:48:21 -0000 On 7/28/2015 1:16 PM, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > Hi, > > Are these what I think they are? > Errors in the CPU L2 cache? > > Are the ECC corrected? > Or is error really "data kaput"? > Could be. There is also an erratum issue that triggers these errors on certain CPUs when running software like virtualbox. It was fixed in RELENG_10 some time ago. What are you running ? https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=269052 has some details. ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Tue Jul 28 18:40:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A479AD8B4 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 18:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wjw@digiware.nl) Received: from smtp.digiware.nl (smtp.digiware.nl [31.223.170.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A281C10B5 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 18:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wjw@digiware.nl) Received: from rack1.digiware.nl (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.digiware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778F0153466; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:40:46 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at digiware.nl Received: from smtp.digiware.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by rack1.digiware.nl (rack1.digiware.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0AQRywSpwyyb; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:40:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:4cb8:3:1:4af:3a18:46a:110b] (unknown [IPv6:2001:4cb8:3:1:4af:3a18:46a:110b]) by smtp.digiware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 99CFA153401; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:40:34 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: L2 cache errors??? To: Mike Tancsa , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <55B7B8FA.2060800@digiware.nl> <55B7C059.5020701@sentex.net> From: Willem Jan Withagen Message-ID: <55B7CCA1.4020906@digiware.nl> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:40:33 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55B7C059.5020701@sentex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 18:40:50 -0000 On 28/07/2015 19:48, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 7/28/2015 1:16 PM, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Are these what I think they are? >> Errors in the CPU L2 cache? >> >> Are the ECC corrected? >> Or is error really "data kaput"? >> > > > Could be. There is also an erratum issue that triggers these errors on > certain CPUs when running software like virtualbox. It was fixed in > RELENG_10 some time ago. What are you running ? > > > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=269052 > > has some details. 'mmm, Not running Haswell stuff, but rather older hardware. Looked in older logfiles, and there are a few more... All with the same data, except that it is detected on different CPUs And it occurs when running: mbuffer -4 -m 1000M -I 6666 | \ zfs receive -F -d -v zfs to receive a full backup from my fileserver. --WjW No tweeked settings, neither is the CPU overheated. System consumes about 200W, and has a supermicro 450W supply Running 10.2-BETA2 on a CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Extreme CPU X9650 @ 3.00GHz (3005.62-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin="GenuineIntel" Id=0x10676 Family=0x6 Model=0x17 Stepping=6 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x8e3bd AMD Features=0x20100800 AMD Features2=0x1 VT-x: Basic Features=0x5a0800 Pin-Based Controls=0x3f Primary Processor Controls=0xf7f9fffe Secondary Processor Controls=0x41 Exit Controls=0x5a0800 Entry Controls=0x5a0800 TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics Instruction TLB: 2M pages, 4-way, 8 entries or 4M pages, 4-way, 4 entries Instruction TLB: 4 KB Pages, 4-way set associative, 128 entries 64-Byte prefetching Data TLB0: 4 KByte pages, 4-way associative, 16 entries Data TLB0: 4 MByte pages, 4-way set associative, 16 entries 2nd-level cache: 6MByte, 24-way set associative, 64 byte line size 1st-level instruction cache: 32 KB, 8-way set associative, 64 byte line size Data TLB1: 4 KByte pages, 4-way associative, 256 entries 1st-level data cache: 32 KB, 8-way set associative, 64 byte line size L2 cache: 6144 kbytes, 16-way associative, 64 bytes/line real memory = 7516192768 (7168 MB) Motherboard: Base Board Information Manufacturer: ASUSTeK Computer INC. Product Name: P5Q-E Version: Rev 1.xx Serial Number: MS1C87B16302305 From owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Tue Jul 28 19:04:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621FC9AD08D for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:04:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jpaetzel@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 360EB35F for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jpaetzel@FreeBSD.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D9420ECF for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 15:04:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 28 Jul 2015 15:04:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=hSN2WQUABttH+Lg hYjK5QUj82cs=; b=MtrSYVjB6dGGzjd6kNPrngZQ/JzoU9QI1rqcv9U80GQFBCu 3GaMrJ/PQtO5S9oVcK6c4L4QqVKXOJ7HqBEGxPSFkpfb1PjlokqCNv16nz+wHAbi 7T5P9emzhFMzfm9SPdvQ+kDjRcu0/2GcNHmSYlsOPhWRwnPv4Qk5vaAH8iEo= X-Sasl-enc: 5hMdtnf8fBNRnzPD0UzB3YMn3i4JjMw9HSjdB407eSta 1438110283 Received: from roadrash.tcbug.org (cheqtel-68.234.77-pppoe-58.airstreamcomm.net [68.234.77.58]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E0A00C0001F for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 15:04:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55B7D24B.5060709@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 14:04:43 -0500 From: Josh Paetzel Organization: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: L2 cache errors??? References: <55B7B8FA.2060800@digiware.nl> <55B7C059.5020701@sentex.net> <55B7CCA1.4020906@digiware.nl> In-Reply-To: <55B7CCA1.4020906@digiware.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:04:45 -0000 On 07/28/2015 13:40, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > On 28/07/2015 19:48, Mike Tancsa wrote: >> On 7/28/2015 1:16 PM, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Are these what I think they are? >>> Errors in the CPU L2 cache? >>> >>> Are the ECC corrected? >>> Or is error really "data kaput"? >>> >> >> >> Could be. There is also an erratum issue that triggers these errors on >> certain CPUs when running software like virtualbox. It was fixed in >> RELENG_10 some time ago. What are you running ? >> >> >> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=269052 >> >> has some details. > > 'mmm, > Not running Haswell stuff, but rather older hardware. > > Looked in older logfiles, and there are a few more... > All with the same data, except that it is detected on different CPUs > > And it occurs when running: > mbuffer -4 -m 1000M -I 6666 | \ > zfs receive -F -d -v zfs > to receive a full backup from my fileserver. > > --WjW > You can tell ECC corrected the error because on FreeBSD if ECC can't fix the error the system will panic. Other systems (Solaris and HP-UX being the two I have direct experience with) can detach subsystems that have sustained uncorrectable errors in some cases. (Yes, even CPUs!) If a system is generating hundreds or thousands of MCAs a minute you are dealing with a hardware issue. If you are getting spurious MCAs to the tune of a few a day there's nothing abnormal or broken there it's just the system doing what it's supposed to. Given the amount of data that flies around inside modern computers I'm surprised there aren't more MCAs than there are in most systems. -- FreeBSD - The Power To Serve. From owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Tue Jul 28 19:45:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564C79ADD81 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:45:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wjw@digiware.nl) Received: from smtp.digiware.nl (smtp.digiware.nl [31.223.170.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15EFE155; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:45:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wjw@digiware.nl) Received: from rack1.digiware.nl (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.digiware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF7115340A; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 21:45:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at digiware.nl Received: from smtp.digiware.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by rack1.digiware.nl (rack1.digiware.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Awf4n2wsnzRR; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 21:45:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:4cb8:3:1:4af:3a18:46a:110b] (unknown [IPv6:2001:4cb8:3:1:4af:3a18:46a:110b]) by smtp.digiware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 73E00153401; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 21:45:07 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: L2 cache errors??? To: Josh Paetzel , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <55B7B8FA.2060800@digiware.nl> <55B7C059.5020701@sentex.net> <55B7CCA1.4020906@digiware.nl> <55B7D24B.5060709@FreeBSD.org> From: Willem Jan Withagen Message-ID: <55B7DBBF.2090009@digiware.nl> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 21:45:03 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55B7D24B.5060709@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:45:21 -0000 On 28/07/2015 21:04, Josh Paetzel wrote: > > > On 07/28/2015 13:40, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: >> On 28/07/2015 19:48, Mike Tancsa wrote: >>> On 7/28/2015 1:16 PM, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Are these what I think they are? >>>> Errors in the CPU L2 cache? >>>> >>>> Are the ECC corrected? >>>> Or is error really "data kaput"? >>>> >>> >>> >>> Could be. There is also an erratum issue that triggers these errors on >>> certain CPUs when running software like virtualbox. It was fixed in >>> RELENG_10 some time ago. What are you running ? >>> >>> >>> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=269052 >>> >>> has some details. >> >> 'mmm, >> Not running Haswell stuff, but rather older hardware. >> >> Looked in older logfiles, and there are a few more... >> All with the same data, except that it is detected on different CPUs >> >> And it occurs when running: >> mbuffer -4 -m 1000M -I 6666 | \ >> zfs receive -F -d -v zfs >> to receive a full backup from my fileserver. >> >> --WjW >> > > You can tell ECC corrected the error because on FreeBSD if ECC can't fix > the error the system will panic. Other systems (Solaris and HP-UX being > the two I have direct experience with) can detach subsystems that have > sustained uncorrectable errors in some cases. (Yes, even CPUs!) Offlining CPus, cool. No the system does not panic, but I do get reports from 'zfs receive' that the datastream is invalid. And it then aborts. So I'll have to do more digging, to see what is up. > If a system is generating hundreds or thousands of MCAs a minute you are > dealing with a hardware issue. > > If you are getting spurious MCAs to the tune of a few a day there's > nothing abnormal or broken there it's just the system doing what it's > supposed to. Never had them before, and now about 6 this week. Let alone in L2 cache. So it got me worried. > Given the amount of data that flies around inside modern computers I'm > surprised there aren't more MCAs than there are in most systems. Perhaps not enough alpha particles hitting the cells. :) Thanx, --WjW From owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Tue Jul 28 20:01:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB7B9AD3CD; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:01:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmitri_koulikov@mail.ru) Received: from fallback3.mail.ru (fallback3.mail.ru [94.100.181.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8A5159B; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:01:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmitri_koulikov@mail.ru) Received: from smtp48.i.mail.ru (smtp48.i.mail.ru [94.100.177.108]) by fallback3.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id EEB4115586E7B; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 22:54:55 +0300 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ru; s=mail2; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:To:From:Message-ID; bh=MjhzQLv4JsqAfnurujmy150FNfsKKLo+nWOYIS8k70Q=; b=MbtTBcR4XpnVuLMxpFo+PNKPL6vtdHlMkTqIFxZljjsb8NjAB3HyxeQfhiV/HZdUYTbEbBauH2tuczdrIaUBXrTcREt1/btlkRUutokLmoMQh1ENFY0T9fgm0CcRz7Zv3xGR9BuoB5LtMBBbC9YRCf3RHlOvfx7uqVZjgcZALiU=; Received: from [37.29.74.151] (port=54276 helo=dmitriypc) by smtp48.i.mail.ru with esmtpa (envelope-from ) id 1ZKAxa-0003j6-JN; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 22:54:47 +0300 Message-ID: <96DF2F05EA7243DE81CF53468D9ECAD8@dmitriypc> From: "Dmitriy Kulikov" To: , Subject: Disk Controllers - ciss driver mismatch of supported devices Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 22:54:47 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Mras: Ok Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:01:20 -0000 Hello! Sorry, I found a mismatch between the lists of supported controllers of = driver "ciss". On the website of the developers stated that ciss = supports new disk controlers of servers HP Gen 9 (H240ar, P440ar, etc.). = But in the FreeBSD 10.1 documentation their support is not mentioned. = Does FreeBSD 10 support new disk controlers (H240ar, P440ar) of servers = HP Gen 9? http://cciss.sourceforge.net/ https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.1R/hardware.html Of course, I also found incomplete compliance supported network = controllers HP. But that can be partly understood through matching chips. Best regards, Dmitriy From owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Thu Jul 30 07:15:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4209AEB33 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 07:15:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weishan.ang@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x234.google.com (mail-io0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29F6E1AF for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 07:15:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weishan.ang@gmail.com) Received: by iodd187 with SMTP id d187so45140811iod.2 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 00:15:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jMPzkIIRODJGlp5Y/o8hfQYl6hAR4DwgNMBdH6tNyuA=; b=mon9L/UpLRix7+DEkd8NibK6pv1ZdwGbxBxTVyOqTa5GwvgYvA5yRq3j/uD9gRhLtw XW+gQFIWOM4C+SOWcYaXx1zZP/RXvhXVDLtiPNo/WgkpEV2SjK0hFyJNlnJjHFQBceMq y9qqk0kkSAxHGRMlI/ty5Nrwt/NUMXCLo4RpIOZ3pvdhbgtyAWU4Y2JP4UNlEltSaKQ6 EvO5DKm5aw1jy4rHZqdJnV9Tzv6MzoPh5ATJCjUKJsYLs8Mhn9k/9yJv7xK/qC2KOPUr +40LD+ykOClxWAVaetmBBGT5duE8At29AGIEu3fHP9sEZOuFeD0TyKXOfA2ipc8sxWe4 ji4A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.7.105 with SMTP id 102mr8059588ioh.81.1438240512442; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 00:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.6.144 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 00:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 15:15:12 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: HP DL380 Gen9 Dumb RAID controller From: Wei Shan To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 07:15:13 -0000 Hi all, My company is currently looking to use FreeBSD ZFS for our major upcoming project. Our hardware vendor is HP and we are looking to purchase HP DL380 G9 servers. Previously we tested HP DL380 G9 servers with Smart array P420i. We were not able to configure the RAID controllers in by-pass mode. Thus, we configured each disk in RAID 0 config and we have multiple RAID 0 arrays for each disk. However, I understand that ZFS needs to "see" and manage the disks directly and not through RAID controllers. I have checked the FreeBSD hardware support matrix but HP H240 HBA controller is not listed. Can someone recommend me a "dumb" controller similar to H240 HBA which allows bypass mode so the ZFS can manage the disks directly. HP has the following "dumb" controllers which supports pass through mode. 1. H240 2. H240ar 3. H241 Any ideas and recommendations are greatly appreciated. We are under time constraint so we are unable to buy 1 server to test. Thanks! -- Regards, Ang Wei Shan From owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Thu Jul 30 09:48:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93019AECC5 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:48:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmitri_koulikov@mail.ru) Received: from smtp48.i.mail.ru (smtp48.i.mail.ru [94.100.177.108]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E30AA0D for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:48:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmitri_koulikov@mail.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ru; s=mail2; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:References:To:From:Message-ID; bh=E9lTLiPJPLdxIAxu9/1wpQ7VhhYcgSL64sP3hU/fe0A=; b=AS87p4YAdg7jcUNS9qc3vXYYR24COXDgFPfoa1h8LVMGyd24SwBjN17tozDDP71aLtYla9VaWHvurWpZn9l0Oa+TDnNN+eL/45dQZ5neVLoapcyuCrMV4DiRoVAF/mtkIsKeD39UwvTrJH5aJ2lEtPvylIkzD8O5aO3WayVvod8=; Received: from [37.29.74.145] (port=7015 helo=dmitriypc) by smtp48.i.mail.ru with esmtpa (envelope-from ) id 1ZKkRJ-0007wG-K5; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 12:47:50 +0300 Message-ID: <7A0145BAA1694A6EBC256A6A290B0B82@dmitriypc> From: "Dmitriy Kulikov" To: "Wei Shan" , References: Subject: Re: HP DL380 Gen9 Dumb RAID controller Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 12:47:46 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Mras: Ok Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:48:02 -0000 Hello! I have completely the same problem. Recently I asked a similar question = in all possible ways (mailing lists, conference). https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/hp-gen9-arrays-support.52588/ I propose to share information when it appears. Best regards, Dmitriy -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Sorry, I found a mismatch between the lists of supported controllers of = driver "ciss". On the website of the developers stated that ciss = supports new disk controlers of servers HP Gen 9 (H240ar, P440ar, etc.). = But in the FreeBSD 10.1 documentation their support is not mentioned. = Does FreeBSD 10 support new disk controlers (H240ar, P440ar) of servers = HP Gen 9? http://cciss.sourceforge.net/ https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.1R/hardware.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Wei Shan" To: Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 10:15 AM Subject: HP DL380 Gen9 Dumb RAID controller > Hi all, >=20 > My company is currently looking to use FreeBSD ZFS for our major = upcoming > project. Our hardware vendor is HP and we are looking to purchase HP = DL380 > G9 servers. >=20 > Previously we tested HP DL380 G9 servers with Smart array P420i. We = were > not able to configure the RAID controllers in by-pass mode. Thus, we > configured each disk in RAID 0 config and we have multiple RAID 0 = arrays > for each disk. >=20 > However, I understand that ZFS needs to "see" and manage the disks = directly > and not through RAID controllers. >=20 > I have checked the FreeBSD hardware support matrix but HP H240 HBA > controller is not listed. Can someone recommend me a "dumb" controller > similar to H240 HBA which allows bypass mode so the ZFS can manage the > disks directly. >=20 > HP has the following "dumb" controllers which supports pass through = mode. >=20 > 1. H240 > 2. H240ar > 3. H241 >=20 > Any ideas and recommendations are greatly appreciated. We are under = time > constraint so we are unable to buy 1 server to test. >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > --=20 > Regards, > Ang Wei Shan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Thu Jul 30 16:25:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50A79AED2D for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 16:25:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weishan.ang@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x233.google.com (mail-ig0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80C99E2C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 16:25:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weishan.ang@gmail.com) Received: by igbpg9 with SMTP id pg9so37110098igb.0 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:25:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=NJwhb1Qmlr5qRNfaJ3tGBoDyffIpQ1cNbYUQDy130CQ=; b=MQjUZbKoJ7rKHG3zzbhKZsgPas9oVZHDmc5r2R0xJnXl9+StGkC/wN2FZnmMJeL2YO h7soScOzOoXKbfVV2irzdS9PANSqx9qpfXKl2GXWDW32bFZvXDO4GGeZuKAA+SPAtmMx qxRGTx+sQq+nMG8m1AcdiMNrLXGrC/4YqtiQH6Mgn4dLPaYPbPhfEZ3huf2+koEL0L1H 60is5Tn9SbUy9FmNiNEQdbHHHMA1YrizYYtW0JAfKQwDtmbP3q6tFp2/ObvC2bxgw0cZ r8pYG4ot1DyVl9E9ewI8/12uHMKxsWRXphQheoYV4XdyYMikzBSS+x3t6MFdjBYS83Zy IIwQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.43.193 with SMTP id y1mr6662765igl.89.1438273523812; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.6.144 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:25:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7A0145BAA1694A6EBC256A6A290B0B82@dmitriypc> References: <7A0145BAA1694A6EBC256A6A290B0B82@dmitriypc> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 00:25:23 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: HP DL380 Gen9 Dumb RAID controller From: Wei Shan To: Dmitriy Kulikov Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 16:25:24 -0000 Hi Dmitriy, Thanks for the link. It's extremely helpful. We will proceed to test with the H240 HBA. Will update you if it works :) Btw, We are going to run 10.2 Beta release. On 30 July 2015 at 17:47, Dmitriy Kulikov wrote: > Hello! > > I have completely the same problem. Recently I asked a similar question in > all possible ways (mailing lists, conference). > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/hp-gen9-arrays-support.52588/ > I propose to share information when it appears. > Best regards, > Dmitriy > > ------------------------------ > Sorry, I found a mismatch between the lists of supported controllers of > driver "ciss". On the website of the developers stated that ciss supports > new disk controlers of servers HP Gen 9 (H240ar, P440ar, etc.). But in the > FreeBSD 10.1 documentation their support is not mentioned. Does FreeBSD 10 > support new disk controlers (H240ar, P440ar) of servers HP Gen 9? > http://cciss.sourceforge.net/ > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.1R/hardware.html > > ------------------------------ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wei Shan" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 10:15 AM > Subject: HP DL380 Gen9 Dumb RAID controller > > > Hi all, > > > > My company is currently looking to use FreeBSD ZFS for our major upcoming > > project. Our hardware vendor is HP and we are looking to purchase HP > DL380 > > G9 servers. > > > > Previously we tested HP DL380 G9 servers with Smart array P420i. We were > > not able to configure the RAID controllers in by-pass mode. Thus, we > > configured each disk in RAID 0 config and we have multiple RAID 0 arrays > > for each disk. > > > > However, I understand that ZFS needs to "see" and manage the disks > directly > > and not through RAID controllers. > > > > I have checked the FreeBSD hardware support matrix but HP H240 HBA > > controller is not listed. Can someone recommend me a "dumb" controller > > similar to H240 HBA which allows bypass mode so the ZFS can manage the > > disks directly. > > > > HP has the following "dumb" controllers which supports pass through mode. > > > > 1. H240 > > 2. H240ar > > 3. H241 > > > > Any ideas and recommendations are greatly appreciated. We are under time > > constraint so we are unable to buy 1 server to test. > > > > Thanks! > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Ang Wei Shan > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Regards, Ang Wei Shan From owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Fri Jul 31 06:35:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD14F9AE64A for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 06:35:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD9EFAAB; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 06:35:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=ItFAQVb7DYkYxD48ZhtDtQychZuk5G+UU6Ps6HAy7Hc=; b=A1YxAkw7gBadxpAEOBm7LGJ/dJqnvHXLkdnz28ZYrc/WiyD0Dj1zHct/IiyfPNKve/0PIj6I+kvZzsSx5rFIbarENMWEbLnufu6cR94vSmF7zjFnvAaatI+Y8VYVZCiJtMphKqXFwUnA5uR+L4muA0qhHCj412arFypUNapy0ds=; Received: from [114.121.128.126] (port=39355 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZL2mX-001qO6-0Z; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 23:22:57 -0600 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 13:22:51 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Willem Jan Withagen Cc: Josh Paetzel , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: L2 cache errors??? Message-ID: <20150731132251.5b8581c2@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <55B7DBBF.2090009@digiware.nl> References: <55B7B8FA.2060800@digiware.nl> <55B7C059.5020701@sentex.net> <55B7CCA1.4020906@digiware.nl> <55B7D24B.5060709@FreeBSD.org> <55B7DBBF.2090009@digiware.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 06:35:01 -0000 Hi, On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 21:45:03 +0200 Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > On 28/07/2015 21:04, Josh Paetzel wrote: > > Offlining CPus, cool. and bringing them back online when the problem is fixed. The hardware there supports that things get changed while the system is running. A PC costs normally less than the extra hardware required to do this. Erich From owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Fri Jul 31 08:03:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E989AF792 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 08:03:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wjw@digiware.nl) Received: from smtp.digiware.nl (smtp.digiware.nl [31.223.170.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C86819FC; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 08:03:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wjw@digiware.nl) Received: from rack1.digiware.nl (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.digiware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF8E153466; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 10:03:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at digiware.nl Received: from smtp.digiware.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by rack1.digiware.nl (rack1.digiware.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UgLKOv3MzHKX; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 10:02:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:4cb8:3:1:25e7:7dd8:eafd:dd56] (unknown [IPv6:2001:4cb8:3:1:25e7:7dd8:eafd:dd56]) by smtp.digiware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 979F8153431; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 09:31:53 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: L2 cache errors??? To: Erich Dollansky References: <55B7B8FA.2060800@digiware.nl> <55B7C059.5020701@sentex.net> <55B7CCA1.4020906@digiware.nl> <55B7D24B.5060709@FreeBSD.org> <55B7DBBF.2090009@digiware.nl> <20150731132251.5b8581c2@X220.alogt.com> Cc: Josh Paetzel , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: Willem Jan Withagen Message-ID: <55BB2469.5040507@digiware.nl> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 09:31:53 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20150731132251.5b8581c2@X220.alogt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 08:03:27 -0000 On 31/07/2015 07:22, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 21:45:03 +0200 > Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > >> On 28/07/2015 21:04, Josh Paetzel wrote: >> >> Offlining CPus, cool. > > and bringing them back online when the problem is fixed. The hardware > there supports that things get changed while the system is running. A > PC costs normally less than the extra hardware required to do this. Yes, I can imagine things being expensive. Probably like high-end routers... There you can swap also just about anything.. Expensive got a complete new meaning when I saw a set of 3 core routers being delivered at a friends ISP with a pricetag > 1.000.000 euros... Fortunately it was list price, but even still: A lot of money. But then still you'd swap a processor board, running on the spare. And I guess there we offline the whole board. Last time I heard about things like this in computers, we were talking IBM mainframes, or Tandem. Both long time ago. Obviously haven't done much in High availability lately. Although I've grown to look at HA as: don't put it all in one (expensive) box, but get more (cheaper) boxes, But I guess there are places where this doesn't work. --WjW From owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Sat Aug 1 02:03:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A62F9AEB9B for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2015 02:03:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 391011954; Sat, 1 Aug 2015 02:03:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=rLz+gg51caEvcr+Etjddpnb9HGVmPGIrOsJuf+bqFuk=; b=Duo6OSn4bUkVeVv43RwLNSnqNiSZoD8a/J8cDCc4Vt0Qua0apNo91eLOLd/xpZmnPCDR0vfTTWFwr2rR90EfxGieovX0hjACnd+WZKfsm5QV8ux77yPBMMcIamezatO2UwGSgSs0aXRvDasV2FhuOsC+zeuXDFvUAAXh3csOCzo=; Received: from [114.124.29.22] (port=27303 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZLM9D-002yAX-S8; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 20:03:40 -0600 Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2015 10:03:33 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Willem Jan Withagen Cc: Josh Paetzel , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: L2 cache errors??? Message-ID: <20150801100333.3c082698@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <55BB2469.5040507@digiware.nl> References: <55B7B8FA.2060800@digiware.nl> <55B7C059.5020701@sentex.net> <55B7CCA1.4020906@digiware.nl> <55B7D24B.5060709@FreeBSD.org> <55B7DBBF.2090009@digiware.nl> <20150731132251.5b8581c2@X220.alogt.com> <55BB2469.5040507@digiware.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2015 02:03:43 -0000 Hi, On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 09:31:53 +0200 Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > On 31/07/2015 07:22, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 21:45:03 +0200 > > Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > > > >> On 28/07/2015 21:04, Josh Paetzel wrote: > >> > >> Offlining CPus, cool. > > > > and bringing them back online when the problem is fixed. The > > hardware there supports that things get changed while the system is > > running. A PC costs normally less than the extra hardware required > > to do this. > > Yes, I can imagine things being expensive. > > Probably like high-end routers... There you can swap also just about > anything.. Expensive got a complete new meaning when I saw a set of 3 > core routers being delivered at a friends ISP with a pricetag > > 1.000.000 euros... Fortunately it was list price, but even still: A > lot of money. yes, this are common price tags in this area. > Although I've grown to look at HA as: > don't put it all in one (expensive) box, > but get more (cheaper) boxes, > But I guess there are places where this doesn't work. It is also a matter of effort. The moment the application software has to be adapted, it might be pointless to do it on cheap machines. Google & Co. is a typical case for cheap hardware. It does not matter for the normal user if things get even lost or delayed. It is a different story for banks, manufacturing or people like UPS. Erich