From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 00:05:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AEC9B7FB for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 00:05:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hosting01.epixelic.net (serv01.epixelic.net [94.23.194.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78564D97 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 00:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hosting01.epixelic.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by hosting01.epixelic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C72EE3C7 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 01:00:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from fiduciairechauvry.fr (unknown [200.92.247.171]) by hosting01.epixelic.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 01:00:02 +0100 (CET) From: "Ken Stox" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: from: Ken Stox Message-Id: <724556B3-D107-4EA3-96C2-7A7FB263EE08@fiduciairechauvry.fr> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 01:00:01 +0100 To: "freebsd mobile" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11B554a) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 00:05:22 -0000 Hi freebsd http://drogoweinfo.pl/brought.php?meant=3D6f8zv36zhk Ken Stox Sent from my iPhone From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 02:48:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C25ADAC; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 02:48:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x22c.google.com (mail-ig0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50D84BE6; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 02:48:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igcau2 with SMTP id au2so25029804igc.1; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 19:48:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Mu09Wfh6e7OFI9bqMqW9/Blas9TyGnkz6XpeVDCBVns=; b=ikWKCUuyUYuQBKnNNG2MgiEc/WOQx/2vJSzYXIbPURBsfjcmolCauiTuMgqxDn/FtE LLnH7im4LBQ6+PCbJrasi0L4XxnzQNdWZa2V8FZ9vcY0ynRhC8C4s5JulNzT8QCbJMqm PhG0u8q7/hTN+tCGTZn7YGOdhNafLB90bqQYAuLk9BoTDuThHkqF5Xm6H5tOy/UTQHCK zZtWLk3tF901kDAhnO+yMFGhtMH/aavnCACQh+Xp5tuIdU/p8vkHmjbkXvyrZLXQBdOG aJ4SpExy/niMQrWDw0MEQCyfUGyAy3B+bDZyRGgT8NckXphOg6Thz1xncYnbMCQUF6Dv go8Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.12.150 with SMTP id 22mr2761623iom.71.1427078910737; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 19:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.143.149 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 19:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 21:48:30 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: [gsoc15][idea-proposal] Port FreeBSD to a smartphone [needs-feedback] From: Giovanny Andres Gongora Granada To: wkoszek@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 02:48:31 -0000 Hello, My name is Giovanny, I am an student from Universidad Cooperativa de Colombia planning to participate this year in the gsoc with FreeBSD organization. I reviewed the project list [1] for this year and I am interested in propose a project for Port FreeBSD to a smartphone (any maker and model) [2]. I will share with you my idea, I really appreciate have some feedback for my final proposal in the gsoc page. FreeBSD has a good compiling process for ARM [3] architecture and hardware. Taking advantage of this FreeBSD could run on a smartphone by three ways: 1. Using Android (based device and build process) we can compile FreeBSD kernel with support to the hardware of the device, then use a SD as system partition and configure it as a normal FreeBSD system. Flash an image generated for boot, equal to zImage in the block partition of the device using fastboot, so at reboot it will be running the FreeBSD system. After have the device running is more easy work on a display lib for the device. At the end if it can boot a device using this process and emulator could do this (changing the boot image for the one with FreeBSD) too, I use AOSP to define an environment and a set of tools to compile a light emulator with just the components necessaries to run the FreeBSD system. Mozilla does this to build Firefox OS with AOSP (devices and emulators) [4]. [This is not a image to chroot-jail] 2. Porting the idea of Gentoo for Android [5] to FreeBSD, this could be more difficult than expected due to port the concept of Gentoo RAP to FreeBSD could take a long time of research. Added to it, Gentoo RAP is made to work over Linux, so will take more time adapt the concept to FreeBSD and get something working with the low level layer of Android in the device. If by X reason the concept of Gentoo for Android it's done for FreeBSD could be possible think on port and use Webtop [6] as output for X servers how was done in Ubuntu for Android. 3. Running FreeBSD directly on an Android device using an application that emulates-wraps a terminal to boot a pre-compiled obb (just a tar package with a different name) package of a FreeBSD system. It will provide a shell to access all the programs in FreeBSD system but only text-mode will be supported. To interact from the smartphone with a graphical environment in FreeBSD there are to ways, first use other apps like a vnc client or embed a custom vnc/display client with own libs to display the enviroment. This method doesn't require root on the phone to run FreeBSD and the final apk of the application to run FreeBSD could be published in the Play store (if the idea is to publish it), so everyone could install it and run FreeBSD instantly after apk installation from Play Store. Three possible ways but personally I see 1 and 3 are the ones with best results. Number 1 is the way we more friendly for daily testing and with more percentage for future development. It will keep compatibility with latest changes in arm build process and after new CPU and boards support is added, will be easy build and test on more devices with this method. Number 3 it's more a user side and probably not offers a complete FreeBSD system experience as expected. I see that part of the gsoc is R&D, so I will be happy to research and develop until the end with all the ideas to get the best experience of FreeBSD on a phone. I know all this needs to be more detailed to get and idea if I am wrong or not, so feel free to quote where you think needs clarification in the process. Any feedback or opinions about this is really appreciated to my final proposal in the gsoc page. Thanks, Gio ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * About me: I am studying at University Cooperativa de Colombia, my future degree will be Systems Engineer. I had been contributing to open source project since 4 years ago, today I am an active Mozilla contributor [7], I work sending patches to the Firefox and Firefox OS code base [8]. Also I am part of the reviewer team at Firefox Marketplace (I review the apps that are sent to the Marketplace to be published) and I am a Mozilla Reps [9] too. I contribute to other open source projects too (Tor Project time ago as ES translator) different to Mozilla, you can see some of my contributions to other projects in my Github profile [10]. 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Best regards, Harry Email: markedit@tom.com From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 22:28:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E396A2C; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 22:28:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x233.google.com (mail-ig0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3A6F1DA; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 22:28:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igcau2 with SMTP id au2so85615966igc.0; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 15:28:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=yiGl/IGm8ZncHMVsMxqf3hSbnAix4743VR9+2t6ujeA=; b=xsej2G9v7yheEXDg/IT22/ZtuAPWo8L9EoFtadd7L85BT2Or+X/Xw502ad9ySNAEzB MEep7CAx7suu9R5FJ3BD6ucpLbtNp/OpocuktylpR+7qPps6C5d3TUEAC9ZN9EeItC4x jReKNZ/0rQ6T2KZd4Ie8rzMq86gh3ZJ3S9IpatnVfY9h3HvsrR7Earys2+ZdHiBIuRe6 yYAPHicTLQ2noDJtwwIMqE6SZQB+hUbEiIwXYThDylL4V+9RghUYxSMmfbTceWHlstoE wG1MJec550sroxvkhO3k141uZ3+DsunokVUId30wkH8Eb68OTfv7LetmFE5im2TO5uxd shTg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.166.1 with SMTP id m1mr29743004icy.10.1427236131117; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 15:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.143.149 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 15:28:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 17:28:51 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gsoc15][idea-proposal] Port FreeBSD to a smartphone [needs-feedback] From: Giovanny Andres Gongora Granada To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 22:28:52 -0000 Hi, Someone had time to check my proposal? I will really appreciate some feedback to my finish project proposal in gsoc page. I had published a more detailed draft of my proposal here: www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/public/google/gsoc2015/gioyik/5629499534213120 Thanks a lot, Gio 2015-03-22 21:48 GMT-05:00 Giovanny Andres Gongora Granada : > Hello, > > My name is Giovanny, I am an student from Universidad Cooperativa de > Colombia planning to participate this year in the gsoc with FreeBSD > organization. I reviewed the project list [1] for this year and I am > interested in propose a project for Port FreeBSD to a smartphone (any maker > and model) [2]. I will share with you my idea, I really appreciate have > some feedback for my final proposal in the gsoc page. > > FreeBSD has a good compiling process for ARM [3] architecture and > hardware. Taking advantage of this FreeBSD could run on a smartphone by > three ways: > > 1. Using Android (based device and build process) we can compile FreeBSD > kernel with support to the hardware of the device, then use a SD as system > partition and configure it as a normal FreeBSD system. Flash an image > generated for boot, equal to zImage in the block partition of the device > using fastboot, so at reboot it will be running the FreeBSD system. After > have the device running is more easy work on a display lib for the device. > At the end if it can boot a device using this process and emulator could do > this (changing the boot image for the one with FreeBSD) too, I use AOSP to > define an environment and a set of tools to compile a light emulator with > just the components necessaries to run the FreeBSD system. Mozilla does > this to build Firefox OS with AOSP (devices and emulators) [4]. [This is > not a image to chroot-jail] > > 2. Porting the idea of Gentoo for Android [5] to FreeBSD, this could be > more difficult than expected due to port the concept of Gentoo RAP to > FreeBSD could take a long time of research. Added to it, Gentoo RAP is made > to work over Linux, so will take more time adapt the concept to FreeBSD and > get something working with the low level layer of Android in the device. If > by X reason the concept of Gentoo for Android it's done for FreeBSD could > be possible think on port and use Webtop [6] as output for X servers how > was done in Ubuntu for Android. > > 3. Running FreeBSD directly on an Android device using an application that > emulates-wraps a terminal to boot a pre-compiled obb (just a tar package > with a different name) package of a FreeBSD system. It will provide a shell > to access all the programs in FreeBSD system but only text-mode will be > supported. To interact from the smartphone with a graphical environment in > FreeBSD there are to ways, first use other apps like a vnc client or embed > a custom vnc/display client with own libs to display the enviroment. This > method doesn't require root on the phone to run FreeBSD and the final apk > of the application to run FreeBSD could be published in the Play store (if > the idea is to publish it), so everyone could install it and run FreeBSD > instantly after apk installation from Play Store. > > Three possible ways but personally I see 1 and 3 are the ones with best > results. Number 1 is the way we more friendly for daily testing and with > more percentage for future development. It will keep compatibility with > latest changes in arm build process and after new CPU and boards support is > added, will be easy build and test on more devices with this method. Number > 3 it's more a user side and probably not offers a complete FreeBSD system > experience as expected. I see that part of the gsoc is R&D, so I will be > happy to research and develop until the end with all the ideas to get the > best experience of FreeBSD on a phone. > > I know all this needs to be more detailed to get and idea if I am wrong or > not, so feel free to quote where you think needs clarification in the > process. Any feedback or opinions about this is really appreciated to my > final proposal in the gsoc page. > > Thanks, > Gio > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > * About me: > I am studying at University Cooperativa de Colombia, my future degree will > be Systems Engineer. I had been contributing to open source project since 4 > years ago, today I am an active Mozilla contributor [7], I work sending > patches to the Firefox and Firefox OS code base [8]. Also I am part of the > reviewer team at Firefox Marketplace (I review the apps that are sent to > the Marketplace to be published) and I am a Mozilla Reps [9] too. > > I contribute to other open source projects too (Tor Project time ago as ES > translator) different to Mozilla, you can see some of my contributions to > other projects in my Github profile [10]. Most of my projects are open > sourced in Github [11] and those projects are coded using different > languages, some of them are C, Go, Python, Javascript, Ruby, Java and some > shell scripts. > > * Previous experience with FreeBSD: > I maintain some FreeBSD systems running in my University and a year ago I > helped to run some FreeBSD servers with an IT team for a hosting provider > company. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > [1]: https://wiki.freebsd.org/SummerOfCodeIdeas > [2]: > https://wiki.freebsd.org/SummerOfCodeIdeas#Port_FreeBSD_to_a_smartphone_.28any_maker_and_model.29 > [3]: http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/arm.html > [4]: https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/B2G > [5]: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Android > [6]: http://sourceforge.net/motorola/motorola-webtop/home/Home/ > [7]: https://mozillians.org/en-US/u/gioyik/ > [8]: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/log?rev=gioyik%40gmail.com > [9]: https://reps.mozilla.org/u/gioyik/ > [10]: https://github.com/Gioyik/ > [11]: https://github.com/Gioyik?tab=repositories > -- Mozilla Hispano: http://mozilla-hispano.org Mentor en mozilla-hispano.org: Gioyik Mozilla Colombia: Miembro en MozillaColombia twitter: Gioyik Blog: gioyik.wordpress.com irc: gioyik From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 11:17:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CB40330 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 11:17:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.hushmail.com (smtp2.hushmail.com [65.39.178.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.hushmail.com", Issuer "smtp.hushmail.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3DE3EE6 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 11:17:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.hushmail.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 78A3BA01EA for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 10:45:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.hushmail.com (w6.hushmail.com [65.39.178.92]) by smtp2.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 10:45:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.hushmail.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 5FA8320341; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 10:45:54 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 09:45:54 -0100 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: laptops for FreeBsd From: "zeke motta" Message-Id: <20150325104554.5FA8320341@smtp.hushmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 11:17:44 -0000 Dear Ladies/Gents I am a novice in all Freebsd matters but i intend to learn. Just one question > which laptop should I buy to install the latest version of Freebsd 10.1 or 11??? thank you. all the bestzeke Sent using Hushmail From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 03:17:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D76E4ACE for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 03:17:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0ABBFBB for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 03:17:51 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=jEPw9BZBrULHeKbiRXKifqo6XQZ9gYf5Aj5RbXvWF/4=; b=k018NJl8Pk6NpseK5GkGzkV7zoeFFrwg/WWUGvY1QT2EFuSqkgka7+bo+z8os6GoegneE3Urpt2/49L9UcM4lLL2B2Jrc5lN85JNVjvKs+i2ANriaP7eL/9Z4QF7O6bTb1E12Y69wNv27Z18XOOYoJ00kmDulrQk2Q6wUxYhNys=; Received: from [114.121.161.175] (port=24391 helo=B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1YayIh-000wG1-92; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 21:17:44 -0600 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:17:36 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: "zeke motta" Subject: Re: laptops for FreeBsd Message-ID: <20150326111736.0b6ffec5@B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <20150325104554.5FA8320341@smtp.hushmail.com> References: <20150325104554.5FA8320341@smtp.hushmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 03:17:51 -0000 Hi, On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 09:45:54 -0100 "zeke motta" wrote: > Dear Ladies/Gents > I am a novice in all Freebsd matters but i intend to learn. > Just one question > which laptop should I buy to install the latest > version of Freebsd 10.1 or 11??? the high-end ThinkPads normally work except the graphics which is only VESA. Do not buy cheaper ThinkPads if you are not sure that the hardware is supported. Erich From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 04:12:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A9D4FD0 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 04:12:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-x233.google.com (mail-ie0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4AD66DC for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 04:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iedfl3 with SMTP id fl3so42690052ied.1 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 21:12:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=u0ympr2a1KlaGpUuCso7dCyesSIOYKHHQJLGfnwc5Dw=; b=JYLI51pOXhPB1D1l5SIL200QN6dXTIggK8EIZgjFTeuHgvLUy9HGvg0iPBB7h7HhHc Sag23jsN+p/G2Z3UkFFKor0Imwot5HVd4h2nyhgc8pvNooBeqpZwXqr/dkqzaLE14+Ch ASDVdCO/6u3je/RicnC0ne6K7p9okYnosUMekXnkx8Xxulh9zk/wUUK/7uVyk1YiIWga kuJCRkbpbRBFfS4u0jwQe2VVVVMKDX6DzP2DuB4DHNGa8m/5nyQs28dxLuCBRkbcwm23 siDxme2I/4KPBUhh5zWbHOEH3IOUsZ5QQw8CAhVmoA83C9yrHnn/ykmFsdFck0cnxhqr bMmg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.39.72 with SMTP id n69mr3417578ion.8.1427343167982; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 21:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.36.17.194 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 21:12:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150325104554.5FA8320341@smtp.hushmail.com> References: <20150325104554.5FA8320341@smtp.hushmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 21:12:47 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3Uindf9w8VdkqktlZNyVHCRuF4M Message-ID: Subject: Re: laptops for FreeBsd From: Adrian Chadd To: zeke motta Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 04:12:49 -0000 Hi! I started trying to document them on the FreeBSD wiki: http://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops There are quite a few there to choose from. Each link should have some information about what's supported and not supported. -a From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 10:36:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55394277 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 10:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zimbra.tngtech.com (zimbra.tngtech.com [212.204.93.107]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 072E7D8 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 10:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.tngtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05669254010C for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:28:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from zimbra.tngtech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.tngtech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id VXT3QoimHBGH for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:28:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.tngtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5439A254014F for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:28:41 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tngtech.com Received: from zimbra.tngtech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.tngtech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id m_YinKuN7tIz for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:28:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.124.66] (heimdall.m-net.de [88.217.154.36]) by zimbra.tngtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2708B254010C for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:28:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5513DF50.9000909@tngtech.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:28:32 +0100 From: Stefan Wendler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: laptops for FreeBsd References: <20150325104554.5FA8320341@smtp.hushmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20150325104554.5FA8320341@smtp.hushmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BSLNK7Nl8isIaLLqmPmLS0HCfphISuCSj" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 10:36:14 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --BSLNK7Nl8isIaLLqmPmLS0HCfphISuCSj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, if you don't need the newest model, I had a Lenovo T530 fully working (but never tested suspend) with FreeBSD 9 and 10. In the T530 you can also disable Intel GFX and use NVidia only. Since my T530 jumped from the desk ^^ I have a T540 now which is kind of unusable with FreeBSD :(( Haswell or Broadwell are still not supported with FreeBSD CURRENT. And you cannot disable Intel GFX anymore. Shame on you Lenovo!! The Haswell (or Broadwell) thing also means that integrated WiFi will not work. So if you want to use a Haswell or Broadwell NB be prepared to only have VESA GFX and Wifi via an external dongle. Both Sucks, if you try to really use this NB. This is OT, but I hope that at least Haswell GFX will be supported soon. I can live with the WiFi Dongle. But I cannot live with VESA. And I don't want to live with Linux any longer. Cheers, Stefan On 03/25/15 11:45, zeke motta wrote: > Dear Ladies/Gents > I am a novice in all Freebsd matters but i intend to learn. =20 > Just one question > which laptop should I buy to install the latest > version of Freebsd 10.1 or 11??? > thank you. > all the bestzeke=20 > Sent using Hushmail > =20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" >=20 --=20 Stefan Wendler stefan.wendler@tngtech.com +49 (0) 176 - 2438 3835 Senior Consultant TNG Technology Consulting GmbH, Betastr. 13a, 85774 Unterf=F6hring Gesch=E4ftsf=FChrer: Henrik Klagges, Gerhard M=FCller, Christoph Stock Amtsgericht M=FCnchen, HRB 135082 --BSLNK7Nl8isIaLLqmPmLS0HCfphISuCSj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlUT31gACgkQ01vvrYDXSqsDDwCgrUotgbuy8ozAz9s1pLkADbUv dbIAn3OCtsYNn1ZhsXyyjkZ5uOAaE2bI =bXm/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BSLNK7Nl8isIaLLqmPmLS0HCfphISuCSj-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 11:54:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4D263EE for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.made4.biz (mail.made4.biz [IPv6:2001:41d0:2:c018::1:3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76628BAE for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 2a02-8428-011b-e000-0290-f5ff-fe9d-b78c.rev.sfr.net ([2a02:8428:11b:e000:290:f5ff:fe9d:b78c] helo=magellan.dumbbell.fr) by mail.made4.biz with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.85 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Yb6MR-00041z-D0 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:54:07 +0100 Message-ID: <5513F35A.7030906@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:54:02 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-S=E9bastien_P=E9dron?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: laptops for FreeBsd References: <20150325104554.5FA8320341@smtp.hushmail.com> <5513DF50.9000909@tngtech.com> In-Reply-To: <5513DF50.9000909@tngtech.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4o7QiGahKwmeOswjKhTJg4975A7tm4f04" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:54:09 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --4o7QiGahKwmeOswjKhTJg4975A7tm4f04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 26.03.2015 11:28, Stefan Wendler wrote: > This is OT, but I hope that at least Haswell GFX will be supported soon= =2E Hi! Yes, I plan to start working on this Real Soon Now=99. No ETA to give but= I hope to finish this before FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE. This work will include Haswell but not Broadwell or Skylake. Watch the freebsd-x11@ mailing-list and/or the graphics team blog [1] to be kept informed :) [1] http://blogs.freebsdish.org/graphics/ --=20 Jean-S=E9bastien P=E9dron --4o7QiGahKwmeOswjKhTJg4975A7tm4f04 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJVE/NaXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NzA4N0ZEMUFFQUUwRTEyREJDNkE2RjAz OUU5OTc2MUE1RkQ5NENDAAoJEDnpl2Gl/ZTMBPIP+wf5GQBuvRyhglfwSCAG88zt exv0O4nOh9a0xnqBSN4pEik1/MwY+2IObRUytop4hzfSk0iAs0hTUAyPf2SSJfDl 35htw8VSME+VVrp3CoMR/57rsoUWDtHHb23aML66ArJyckLS7o9onNGIvW1IeDqk 8DstZQ/vxc/hLtmo7I2/6WnhMT6MQWz01qDdh+0a01e0muTyEs6DYlradHD563Je g5vDM9KXIohjXuXCzyWdHQF9al3fGVFRt/RKSdgMk57SblnptNzanUtXNa+Ku17o TL8Ugz5L9eI0q8qQQG8SYaX3cZ/MyH02fOOTkQUFKIaBZR49x/0PztrmlrpuvF04 Z7U/ZLWJZA3u6TeGiK5VOLpykXiGkZm8/zmlRA3UnSvJDta2AU7dkllD36WulVny 8o5T74EXciO3urJHZ+7+DQweVXoFVPgRI84JMnMp7hHu/W6AYAJ2A0JyJKGHTsbr 9pLz9xcNJ3WLTJ9bn6hi2+eWa3T9IFrWtT9XZL/Yck5NHhpdpBzSFMqdEVoCydEj V1sAfBAlk0T2HitLt6/82ly9HxZwtshfdHBETpH12kRX6fLjyR4NXTgVSTJmj6oB Kb5gaF0ktv6atUtcPdeGvwvz46NFbtcNfVRss3xWbIbSr01KLteAKAWusTphT6Qi WdkeDcpUYHIIlxJnc8G1 =kRB4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4o7QiGahKwmeOswjKhTJg4975A7tm4f04-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 12:07:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 858F4818 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:07:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zimbra.tngtech.com (zimbra.tngtech.com [212.204.93.107]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 362EFD13 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.tngtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93E72540004 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 13:07:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from zimbra.tngtech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.tngtech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id LMlWG2owsvpC for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 13:07:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.tngtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C854B254014F for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 13:07:18 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tngtech.com Received: from zimbra.tngtech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.tngtech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id BYCe_EmdMpcP for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 13:07:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.124.66] (heimdall.m-net.de [88.217.154.36]) by zimbra.tngtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 793332540004 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 13:07:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5513F672.1090500@tngtech.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 13:07:14 +0100 From: Stefan Wendler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: laptops for FreeBsd References: <20150325104554.5FA8320341@smtp.hushmail.com> <5513DF50.9000909@tngtech.com> <5513F35A.7030906@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <5513F35A.7030906@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UMULSPcjPSpAlsqcQcRFXj9IMP4EkMBed" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:07:22 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --UMULSPcjPSpAlsqcQcRFXj9IMP4EkMBed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/26/15 12:54, Jean-S=E9bastien P=E9dron wrote: > On 26.03.2015 11:28, Stefan Wendler wrote: >> This is OT, but I hope that at least Haswell GFX will be supported soo= n. >=20 > Hi! Hi >=20 > Yes, I plan to start working on this Real Soon Now=99. No ETA to give b= ut > I hope to finish this before FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE. This work will > include Haswell but not Broadwell or Skylake. Oh YES! ;) I will definitely volunteer in the tests *thumbs up* > Watch the freebsd-x11@ mailing-list and/or the graphics team blog [1] t= o > be kept informed :) Daily :) >=20 > [1] http://blogs.freebsdish.org/graphics/ I have the feed in my reader ;) --UMULSPcjPSpAlsqcQcRFXj9IMP4EkMBed Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlUT9nUACgkQ01vvrYDXSqsyCQCfaMW4hIczy0ncIk2oGeXNwyZL POUAni0plQHWCkuMSHUpa0q0h18ULUwB =bFFp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UMULSPcjPSpAlsqcQcRFXj9IMP4EkMBed-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 12:24:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D54C8CDD; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E38D5ED6; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id t2QCOhIb061750; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 23:24:43 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 23:24:43 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Adrian Chadd Subject: Re: laptops for FreeBsd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20150326230313.U22893@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20150325104554.5FA8320341@smtp.hushmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: zeke motta , "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:24:50 -0000 On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 21:12:47 -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: > Hi! > > I started trying to document them on the FreeBSD wiki: > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops > > There are quite a few there to choose from. Each link should have some > information about what's supported and not supported. Yes this is the best public resource. Many of the Lenovo T and X series there are well supported, mostly because they're often owned by FreeBSD developers or 'power users'. Regarding what stefan said about problems moving from a working T530 to a not-so working yet T540, it's a reminder that using the very latest models may involve adventures you'd rather not bother having, at least until you have a stable machine doing whatever you want it to do. Developers go for latest kit because, well, they have an insatiable urge to encounter problems and overcome them :) but many users will do better with slightly older laptops, like already well-tested superceded models, still coming with full warranty and usually with a hefty discount. It really depends on how close to the bleeding edge you want to travel! cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 08:06:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECF84E9B; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 08:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1A75660; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 08:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.137.248] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1YbPHG-0001xa-UE; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 09:06:03 +0100 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r276659 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t2R85tVB002321 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 27 Mar 2015 09:05:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id t2R85qUd002320; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 09:05:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 09:05:52 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Adrian Chadd Subject: Re: laptops for FreeBsd Message-ID: <20150327080552.GA2195@c720-r276659> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , Adrian Chadd , zeke motta , "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" References: <20150325104554.5FA8320341@smtp.hushmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r269739 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.137.248 Cc: zeke motta , "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 08:06:14 -0000 El día Wednesday, March 25, 2015 a las 09:12:47PM -0700, Adrian Chadd escribió: > Hi! > > I started trying to document them on the FreeBSD wiki: > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops > > There are quite a few there to choose from. Each link should have some > information about what's supported and not supported. I do run 11-CURRENT on Acer Aspire One D250 (which is in the above Wiki) Dell M4400 Dell Latitude E6330 Acer Chromebook C720 Asus EeePC 900 All are completely supported in 11-CURRENT. I think I have had to change the Wifi card in the M4400, and the C720 runs in Vesa mode (which you will not note from the user perspective running KDE4. I promise to document them in the Wiki. matthias -- Matthias Apitz, guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-170-4527211 "Wenn der Mensch von den Umständen gebildet wird, so muß man die Umstände menschlich bilden." "Si el hombre es formado por las circunstancias entonces es necesario formar humanamente las circunstancias", Karl Marx in Die heilige Familie / La sagrada familia