From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 19 01:06:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AB19995D0 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 01:06:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3521C1BFE for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 01:06:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=wD05YCQPKLkYGmnojkuud2TVBMM0CkaBetIZmJ+L5Jg=; b=iWvjOVKiFidRBo/Uvnrk7/PKoBjE27kHK+2zEPfhPuPPflhcDqAoseuB0pCGEY/j9WorouuarEUcVN7Q2uAbXZsGtuX1qRfX5A7uF2a5kRVcu2qG2CN7T86ZmjPkDxz1rJxjNjUlTn0Jzc2feNlsMY580CdxFUlL30KGV/4jqig=; Received: from [114.121.161.187] (port=57366 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGd3l-001EUR-PN; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 19:06:30 -0600 Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 09:06:21 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Ana Berjuega Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Touching base on Wyoming Students and Parents Education Resources Message-ID: <20150719090621.7053fe30@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 01:06:37 -0000 Hi, On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 19:41:47 +0000 Ana Berjuega wrote: > I had sent you an email or two sometime ago about some of the > resources on this page : > http://www.pl.freebsd.org/gallery/npgallery.html. > > I am wondering if you are the person responsible for maintaining it > because I have some questions. If you are not the right contact, > please forward me or let me know who I should contact. Hope to hear > back from you soon. > you have sent your e-mail to a mailing list. It might be better to use freebsd-doc@freebsd.org. This is also a mailing list but people who handle the site should be on that list. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 19 10:40:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D8F9A417D for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 10:40:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D5F61FA3 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 10:40:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-114.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.114]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C03527806; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:32:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t6JAWkpQ002186; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:32:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:32:46 +0200 From: Polytropon To: opendaddy@hushmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Docker Message-Id: <20150719123246.1730f640.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150610111135.C81EE2319B@smtp.hushmail.com> References: <20150610111135.C81EE2319B@smtp.hushmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 10:40:38 -0000 Re-visiting some older context... On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:11:35 +0000, opendaddy@hushmail.com wrote: > Hi! > > Attempting to install the Discourse discussion forum (https://github.com/discourse/discourse) on my DigitalOcean FreeBSD VPS. Discourse requires Docker, however nothing happens when I try `wget -qO- https://get.docker.com/ | sh` (https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/master/docs/INSTALL-cloud.md). > > What am I doing wrong? Here: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Docker But please note: "Docker on FreeBSD should be considered experimental. Limitations of the 64bit Linux compatibility subsystem will impact some Linux ABI containers and your testing and feedback is appreciated to help resolve any such issues." However, a good start. Maybe it already works for you sufficiently well. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 19 12:46:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D979A6B82; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:46:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tuchalia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-x22d.google.com (mail-lb0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B498C1E05; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tuchalia@gmail.com) Received: by lblf12 with SMTP id f12so81751822lbl.2; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 05:46:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=ARnAsan8z7Ea/Ci6YbCjJx3srT5UxYXcDcBIc0koO8I=; b=o5th53rMDbAXJEtCv7Tl64g6Itk7ZEZMHI+bwXoy50x22XdJpeRZiABOonzaHBD7zB tHqQ5wbtB/vX+ya3L/4rA2FAf/QSF5S7SpS8bow49XAq4hsSxHXliyiECvre+91mYvHo iDEeMFKP6wJx5+Q6Tx6kAlDnJhxar0NkGDOPVPUL/IdT2pBuft1IAtfDXNBHiCWl6H/f eVLA0YGeRENYSNu1GbwFo562s0N6oinqPALPKHju7eYAuYwvof3SN5bZ/vqBxenQwz3P cC9WhmPTbNAXPQajxO9wpwmqQftIKWCSC3spnR1/xlJMBOMWLGJApuLPZekdo83iEKc3 tzeg== X-Received: by 10.112.143.74 with SMTP id sc10mr17801754lbb.116.1437310006398; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 05:46:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <55A33C4B.5080303@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: From: Daniel Peyrolon Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:46:36 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Getting Asus FM200 working with FreeBSD To: Julian Elischer , FreeBSD Questions , "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:46:49 -0000 Hi there, I'm using the latest CURRENT image they're updated not long ago. It somehow manages to pull the right drivers to get X working. :) Thanks for the suggestion. El lun., 13 jul. 2015 a las 13:15, Daniel Peyrolon () escribi=C3=B3: > Hi, > > > what about PCBSD? > Probably should have said something about PCBSD... It didn't work when > trying to start X, it couldn't find the adapter. > I will nevertheless try the last images tomorrow, when I can, and let you > know. > > El lun., 13 jul. 2015 a las 6:19, Julian Elischer () > escribi=C3=B3: > >> On 7/11/15 8:29 PM, Daniel Peyrolon wrote: >> > Hi everyone, >> > >> > I'm trying to get FreeBSD-CURRENT up and running with anything differe= nt >> > than console-only on an Asus FM200. I created a wiki page for it: [1]. >> > >> > I've tried GhostBSD on it, and everything pretty much worked, except >> > suspend/resume, and audio. >> what about PCBSD? >> > I've CURRENT [2] installed on it, but so far, I haven't been able to >> get it >> > working, vesa is not even being loaded (error 19). Any idea, >> suggestions? >> > >> > [1]: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops/ASUS_FM200 >> > [2]: FreeBSD BlackBox 11.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #0 r285358: Fr= i >> Jul >> > 10 18:40:27 CEST 2015 root@BlackBox:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >> > >> > >> >> -- > Daniel > --=20 Daniel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 19 13:59:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508139A45AE for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 13:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E55FA1DAF for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 13:59:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-207-98-175-216.knology.net [207.98.175.216] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t6JDwope009374 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 08:58:56 -0500 Message-ID: <55ABAD19.9010700@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 09:05:04 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Docker References: <20150610111135.C81EE2319B@smtp.hushmail.com> <20150719123246.1730f640.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150719123246.1730f640.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 13:59:05 -0000 On 07/19/15 05:39, Polytropon wrote: > Re-visiting some older context... > > On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:11:35 +0000, opendaddy@hushmail.com wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Attempting to install the Discourse discussion forum (https://github.com/discourse/discourse) on my DigitalOcean FreeBSD VPS. Discourse requires Docker, however nothing happens when I try `wget -qO- https://get.docker.com/ | sh` (https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/master/docs/INSTALL-cloud.md). >> >> What am I doing wrong? > Here: > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Docker > > But please note: "Docker on FreeBSD should be considered experimental. > Limitations of the 64bit Linux compatibility subsystem will impact > some Linux ABI containers and your testing and feedback is appreciated > to help resolve any such issues." > > However, a good start. Maybe it already works for you sufficiently well. I also inquired about docker a while back (last fall some time), mostly out of curiosity. I notice it is only available for 10.1 & higher, & only ZFS. Any polans for 9.3R, & maybe non-ZFS :-) ? -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 19 15:25:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33789A552D for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 15:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward12j.cmail.yandex.net (forward12j.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1630::b2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Certum Level IV CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F31511A5 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 15:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp11.mail.yandex.net (smtp11.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801:1::10]) by forward12j.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 68A8C217D5 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 18:25:22 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp11.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp11.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 37D0F7E0669 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 18:25:22 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp11.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id CTIDfyRzR5-PLieisLp; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 18:25:21 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1437319521; bh=/Mbv+LkrqewWr6QnbjbnMcHW84vyvQhTRw3dlbSOrk8=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:Content-Type:X-Mailer: Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RNcv2sfPgVmWeiVFJzIhVxi8kgmIlUzHunVOjNWox1nu6JtuM4fzWlHNceyaRCjqS ft6e138kzEHruVyKwd8iS6BYysgpOMADWxw9Y2X6K7fQ1izxN07CXLw7xI8UhLoZTv F3M+dH3HUKmlANgxTaE5t+bPH8nioz6YNyWuXbUw= Authentication-Results: smtp11.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Message-ID: <1437319518.1541.9.camel@yandex.com> Subject: FreeBSD 10.2 BETA-2 From: ajtiM To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 11:25:18 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.11 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 15:25:35 -0000 Hi! I upgrade 10.1-RELEASE (amd64) with freebsd-update upgrade to FreeBSD 10.2-BETA2 #0 r285646: Fri Jul 17 01:09:28 UTC 2015 root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 and now I have some problems: 1. VT module doesn't load. In /boot/loader.conf I have: kern.vty=vt but it doesn't work. If I manual loada module witk kldload radeonkms I got just black screen and nothing more. 2. Fireware external disk doesn't work either. In /boot/loader.conf I have sbp_load="YES" but it doesn't load. If I run kldload sbp it load and works. 3. The same is with web camera. cuse4bsd_load="YES" which I have in /boot/loader.conf doesn't load. It works if I load with kldload. Those are the problems on my computer with beta version 2. In /boot/loader.rc is: \ Loader.rc \ $FreeBSD: stable/10/sys/boot/i386/loader/loader.rc 262704 2014-03-03 07:31:55Z dteske $ \ \ Includes additional commands include /boot/loader.4th try-include /boot/loader.rc.local \ Reads and processes loader.conf variables initialize \ Tests for password -- executes autoboot first if a password was defined check-password \ Load in the boot menu include /boot/beastie.4th \ Start the boot menu beastie-start Thank you. -- ajtiM ----- http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lumiwa-FARM/775292915882930?_fb_noscript=1 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 19 16:21:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B20679A52A9 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 16:21:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2585514B2 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 16:21:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([80.229.31.82]) by avasout08 with smtp id uGJ91q0091mJoLY01GJAdP; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 17:18:11 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=EKD7qAtC c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=cd0K7rcWwnZFf6xQxRobyA==:117 a=cd0K7rcWwnZFf6xQxRobyA==:17 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=DGUKCM7wfUEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=zOBTXjUuO1YA:10 a=PvNF-IpejFmwuP1_W3kA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13] helo=milibyte.co.uk) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGrI1-0000gq-FL for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 17:18:09 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 17:18:08 +0100 Message-ID: <1801484.8HheermeJ8@curlew.lan> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE-p10; KDE/4.14.3; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mike@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Subject: Shared object "libffi.so.6" not found Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 16:21:26 -0000 While booting 10.1-RELEASE I get the following message on the console: Shared object "libffi.so.6" not found, required by "libp11-kit.so.0" The message appears early in the boot process while network routing is being set up. A few checks show that libffi.so.6 does exist: curlew:/home/mike% locate libp11-kit.so.0 /usr/local/lib/libp11-kit.so.0 /usr/local/lib/libp11-kit.so.0.1.0 curlew:/home/mike% ldd /usr/local/lib/libp11-kit.so.0 /usr/local/lib/libp11-kit.so.0: libffi.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libffi.so.6 (0x801660000) libthr.so.3 => /lib/libthr.so.3 (0x801867000) libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x80081f000) curlew:/home/mike% ls -l /usr/local/lib/libffi.so.6* lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 15 8 Jan 2015 /usr/local/lib/libffi.so.6@ -> libffi.so.6.0.4 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 27960 8 Jan 2015 /usr/local/lib/libffi.so.6.0.4* I'm puzzled why I see the 'libffi.so.6 not found' message at a stage in the boot process after local filesystems have been mounted. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 19 18:30:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFDC59A6ABE for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 18:30:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from out-002.lax.mailroute.net (002.lax.mailroute.net [199.89.1.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.mailroute.net", Issuer "AlphaSSL CA - SHA256 - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6E411AA8 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 18:30:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by out-002.lax.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3mZF6D59CWz5vwZ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 18:27:32 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by MailRoute Received: from out-002.lax.mailroute.net ([199.89.1.5]) by localhost (002.lax.mailroute.net [127.0.0.1]) (mroute_mailscanner, port 10026) with LMTP id A2hvxIjWK_Hp; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 18:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by out-002.lax.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3mZF621Zqzz5vWK; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 18:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1D97A1FF9; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 11:27:21 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: mfv Cc: Lowell Gilbert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sync Ports to Packages References: <20150717145356.612a3a1e@gecko4> <44mvyulhdx.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20150718111438.10f593f7@gecko4> x-mayan-date: Long count = 13.0.2.11.0; tzolkin = 8 Ahau; haab = 8 Xul Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 11:27:21 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20150718111438.10f593f7@gecko4> (mfv@bway.net's message of "Sat, 18 Jul 2015 11:14:38 -0400") Message-ID: <868uacj94m.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 18:30:15 -0000 >>>>> "mfv" == mfv writes: mfv> To do this I first upgrade the binaries by invoking "pkg upgrade". mfv> Then, after using a web browser to check out the appropriate beefy mfv> server, I identify the build number of that upgrade. Finally, I mfv> update the local ports tree by running "svnup ports -n ". mfv> When finished, the ports and packages are synced. Why not just do it the other way around? Check out the latest ports, and build them (even customize them) with poudriere? Then you'll know precisely that your trees are in sync. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. Still trying to think of something clever for the fourth line of this .sig From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 19 18:38:39 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2AE9A6BF6; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 18:38:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vasya.pupkin.bsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yk0-x241.google.com (mail-yk0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB5541040; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 18:38:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vasya.pupkin.bsd@gmail.com) Received: by ykdu72 with SMTP id u72so7909422ykd.3; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 11:38:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oYc3jhKs4Iw32Odte5B3bnQLKonFLFs6c/UsaXuK+LU=; b=px+zUhJjizZhxR4tMebqPUE6kZcGk2xxg4ACD3nQbAZbEFvyOQafEtKMHfjNBdT08J tN0dy7Q2Ew3kyQ4lfGcmbik3A2Bkna8P0i26IjIC+XfVzrT3ZSsTjlseiodZdF49ANvn kEwsS+Qa/qriNwjo2dvRTMZM4ErCGmxtdShDOPvY88qvhI1mGltVdkrrQLAbLLczmvjz tJtZmLaBHTPlXrvUpEBtTnyycdGDL7V/wBQVB+rBoA1NDe1QRnGWFzp+YKmzrcRaAmQM 0fBg1nbHIRgVQ0Hc4R9tIv3IAd1NXwzOpORXtRTUZL7lnqcAAAoW1rpBmS8xKgwCZtqp 70hA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.129.50.140 with SMTP id y134mr24889587ywy.39.1437331117790; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 11:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.25.9 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 11:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 23:38:37 +0500 Message-ID: Subject: On -CURRENT: (clang++), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) From: =?UTF-8?B?0JLQsNGB0LjQu9C40Lkg0JjQstCw0L3QvtCy0LjRhw==?= To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 18:38:39 -0000 Hi All! I have a FreeBSD box: FreeBSD BSD-VAIO 11.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #0: Mon Jul 13 19:51:01 MSK 2015 user@BSD-VAIO:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/VAIO i386 That laptop has 256Mb of RAM + 2GB swap space. And that system I have in that way: 1. Install 9.1-i386-RELEASE (gcc compiler) 2. Update to 10-STABLE (build with gcc from 9-release, WITH_CLANG_IS_CC=yes in src.conf) 3. Update to -CURRENT (build with clang 3.4.1 from 10-STABLE) When I try to do: make buildworld, I have errors, and also when I try to build various ports I have similar error: On internet I read suggestions that this errors happens when out of some resources (RAM, disk space) and when that errors occurs, I have messages in /var/log/messages: Jul 19 22:53:49 BSD-VAIO kernel: pid 44827 (clang++), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) ====================================================================== ===> lib/clang/libllvmaarch64instprinter (all) clang++ -Os -pipe -march=pentium-m -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmaarch64instprinter/../../../contrib/llvm/include -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmaarch64instprinter/../../../contrib/llvm/tools/clang/include -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmaarch64instprinter/../../../contrib/llvm/lib/Target/AArch64/InstPrinter -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmaarch64instprinter/../../../contrib/llvm/lib/Target/AArch64 -I. -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmaarch64instprinter/../../../contrib/llvm/../../lib/clang/include -DLLVM_ON_UNIX -DLLVM_ON_FREEBSD -D__STDC_LIMIT_MACROS -D__STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS -fno-strict-aliasing -DLLVM_DEFAULT_TARGET_TRIPLE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd11.0\" -DLLVM_HOST_TRIPLE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd11.0\" -DDEFAULT_SYSROOT=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp\" -DNDEBUG -Qunused-arguments -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include -std=c++11 -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -stdlib=libc++ -Wno-c++11-extensions -c /usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmaarch64instprinter/../../../contrib/llvm/lib/Target/AArch64/InstPrinter/AArch64InstPrinter.cpp -o AArch64InstPrinter.o building static llvmaarch64instprinter library ar -crD libllvmaarch64instprinter.a `NM='nm' lorder AArch64InstPrinter.o | tsort -q` ranlib -D libllvmaarch64instprinter.a ===> lib/clang/libllvmaarch64utils (all) clang++ -Os -pipe -march=pentium-m -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmaarch64utils/../../../contrib/llvm/include -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmaarch64utils/../../../contrib/llvm/tools/clang/include -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmaarch64utils/../../../contrib/llvm/lib/Target/AArch64/Utils -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmaarch64utils/../../../contrib/llvm/lib/Target/AArch64 -I. -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmaarch64utils/../../../contrib/llvm/../../lib/clang/include -DLLVM_ON_UNIX -DLLVM_ON_FREEBSD -D__STDC_LIMIT_MACROS -D__STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS -fno-strict-aliasing -DLLVM_DEFAULT_TARGET_TRIPLE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd11.0\" -DLLVM_HOST_TRIPLE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd11.0\" -DDEFAULT_SYSROOT=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp\" -DNDEBUG -Qunused-arguments -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include -std=c++11 -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -stdlib=libc++ -Wno-c++11-extensions -c /usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmaarch64utils/../../../contrib/llvm/lib/Target/AArch64/Utils/AArch64BaseInfo.cpp -o AArch64BaseInfo.o building static llvmaarch64utils library ar -crD libllvmaarch64utils.a `NM='nm' lorder AArch64BaseInfo.o | tsort -q` ranlib -D libllvmaarch64utils.a ===> lib/clang/libllvmarmasmparser (all) clang++ -Os -pipe -march=pentium-m -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmasmparser/../../../contrib/llvm/include -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmasmparser/../../../contrib/llvm/tools/clang/include -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmasmparser/../../../contrib/llvm/lib/Target/ARM/AsmParser -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmasmparser/../../../contrib/llvm/lib/Target/ARM -I. -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmasmparser/../../../contrib/llvm/../../lib/clang/include -DLLVM_ON_UNIX -DLLVM_ON_FREEBSD -D__STDC_LIMIT_MACROS -D__STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS -fno-strict-aliasing -DLLVM_DEFAULT_TARGET_TRIPLE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd11.0\" -DLLVM_HOST_TRIPLE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd11.0\" -DDEFAULT_SYSROOT=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp\" -DNDEBUG -Qunused-arguments -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include -std=c++11 -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -stdlib=libc++ -Wno-c++11-extensions -c /usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmasmparser/../../../contrib/llvm/lib/Target/ARM/AsmParser/ARMAsmParser.cpp -o ARMAsmParser.o building static llvmarmasmparser library ar -crD libllvmarmasmparser.a `NM='nm' lorder ARMAsmParser.o | tsort -q` ranlib -D libllvmarmasmparser.a ===> lib/clang/libllvmarmcodegen (all) clang++ -Os -pipe -march=pentium-m -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmcodegen/../../../contrib/llvm/include -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmcodegen/../../../contrib/llvm/tools/clang/include -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmcodegen/../../../contrib/llvm/lib/Target/ARM -I. -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmcodegen/../../../contrib/llvm/../../lib/clang/include -DLLVM_ON_UNIX -DLLVM_ON_FREEBSD -D__STDC_LIMIT_MACROS -D__STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS -fno-strict-aliasing -DLLVM_DEFAULT_TARGET_TRIPLE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd11.0\" -DLLVM_HOST_TRIPLE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd11.0\" -DDEFAULT_SYSROOT=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp\" -DNDEBUG -Qunused-arguments -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include -std=c++11 -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -stdlib=libc++ -Wno-c++11-extensions -c /usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmcodegen/../../../contrib/llvm/lib/Target/ARM/A15SDOptimizer.cpp -o A15SDOptimizer.o clang++ -Os -pipe -march=pentium-m -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmcodegen/../../../contrib/llvm/include -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmcodegen/../../../contrib/llvm/tools/clang/include -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmcodegen/../../../contrib/llvm/lib/Target/ARM -I. -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmcodegen/../../../contrib/llvm/../../lib/clang/include -DLLVM_ON_UNIX -DLLVM_ON_FREEBSD -D__STDC_LIMIT_MACROS -D__STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS -fno-strict-aliasing -DLLVM_DEFAULT_TARGET_TRIPLE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd11.0\" -DLLVM_HOST_TRIPLE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd11.0\" -DDEFAULT_SYSROOT=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp\" -DNDEBUG -Qunused-arguments -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include -std=c++11 -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -stdlib=libc++ -Wno-c++11-extensions -c /usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmcodegen/../../../contrib/llvm/lib/Target/ARM/ARMAsmPrinter.cpp -o ARMAsmPrinter.o Stack dump: 0. Program arguments: /usr/bin/clang++ -cc1 -triple i386-unknown-freebsd11.0 -emit-obj -disable-free -disable-llvm-verifier -main-file-name ARMAsmPrinter.cpp -mrelocation-model static -mthread-model posix -mdisable-fp-elim -relaxed-aliasing -masm-verbose -mconstructor-aliases -target-cpu pentium-m -dwarf-column-info -coverage-file /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmcodegen/ARMAsmPrinter.o -resource-dir /usr/bin/../lib/clang/3.6.1 -D LLVM_ON_UNIX -D LLVM_ON_FREEBSD -D __STDC_LIMIT_MACROS -D __STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS -D LLVM_DEFAULT_TARGET_TRIPLE="i386-unknown-freebsd11.0" -D LLVM_HOST_TRIPLE="i386-unknown-freebsd11.0" -D DEFAULT_SYSROOT="/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp" -D NDEBUG -I /usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmcodegen/../../../contrib/llvm/include -I /usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmcodegen/../../../contrib/llvm/tools/clang/include -I /usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmcodegen/../../../contrib/llvm/lib/Target/ARM -I . -I /usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmcodegen/../../../contrib/llvm/../../lib/clang/include -I /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include -internal-isystem /usr/include/c++/v1 -Os -Wno-c++11-extensions -std=c++11 -fdeprecated-macro -fdebug-compilation-dir /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmcodegen -ferror-limit 19 -fmessage-length 271 -mstackrealign -fno-rtti -fobjc-runtime=gnustep -fdiagnostics-show-option -fcolor-diagnostics -vectorize-loops -vectorize-slp -o ARMAsmPrinter.o -x c++ /usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmcodegen/../../../contrib/llvm/lib/Target/ARM/ARMAsmPrinter.cpp 1. parser at end of file 2. Per-module optimization passes 3. Running pass 'CallGraph Pass Manager' on module '/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmcodegen/../../../contrib/llvm/lib/Target/ARM/ARMAsmPrinter.cpp'. 4. Running pass 'Jump Threading' on function '@_ZN4llvm13ARMAsmPrinter15PrintAsmOperandEPKNS_12MachineInstrEjjPKcRNS_11raw_ostreamE' clang++: error: unable to execute command: Segmentation fault (core dumped) clang++: error: clang frontend command failed due to signal (use -v to see invocation) FreeBSD clang version 3.6.1 (tags/RELEASE_361/final 237755) 20150525 Target: i386-unknown-freebsd11.0 Thread model: posix clang++: note: diagnostic msg: PLEASE submit a bug report to https://bugs.freebsd.org/submit/ and include the crash backtrace, preprocessed source, and associated run script. clang++: note: diagnostic msg: ******************** PLEASE ATTACH THE FOLLOWING FILES TO THE BUG REPORT: Preprocessed source(s) and associated run script(s) are located at: clang++: note: diagnostic msg: /tmp/ARMAsmPrinter-f486d6.cpp clang++: note: diagnostic msg: /tmp/ARMAsmPrinter-f486d6.sh clang++: note: diagnostic msg: ******************** *** Error code 254 Stop. make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmarmcodegen *** Error code 1 Stop. make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/lib/clang *** Error code 1 Stop. make[2]: stopped in /usr/src *** Error code 1 Stop. make[1]: stopped in /usr/src *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/src ====================================================================== /tmp/ARMAsmPrinter-f486d6.cpp: https://www.dropbox.com/s/v2vj9r458wxl7mw/ARMAsmPrinter-f486d6.cpp?dl=0 /tmp/ARMAsmPrinter-f486d6.sh: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5l75ftmohq7lrs7/ARMAsmPrinter-f486d6.sh?dl=0 make.conf: ====================================================================== CPUTYPE ?= pentium-m CFLAGS = -Os -pipe -march=pentium-m COPTFLAGS = -Os -pipe -march=pentium-m BUILD_OPTIMIZED = yes WITH_CPUFLAGS = yes NO_WERROR = WERROR = CC = clang CXX = clang++ CPP = clang-cpp MALLOC_PRODUCTION = yes KERNCONF = VAIO DEFAULT_VERSIONS+= perl5=5.22 php=5.6 ruby=2.2 src.conf ====================================================================== WITHOUT_ACCT = yes WITHOUT_ASSERT_DEBUG = yes WITHOUT_ATM = yes WITHOUT_AUDIT = yes WITHOUT_AUTHPF = yes WITHOUT_BHYVE = yes WITHOUT_BIND = yes WITHOUT_BLUETOOTH = yes WITHOUT_BSNMP = yes WITHOUT_CAPSICUM = yes #WITHOUT_CDDL = yes #WITH_CLANG_IS_CC = yes WITHOUT_CVS = yes WITHOUT_DICT = yes WITHOUT_EXAMPLES = yes WITHOUT_FLOPPY = yes WITHOUT_FREEBSD_UPDATE = yes WITHOUT_GAMES = yes WITHOUT_GDB = yes WITHOUT_HYPERV = yes WITHOUT_HTML = yes WITHOUT_INET6 = yes WITHOUT_INETD = yes WITHOUT_IPFILTER = yes WITHOUT_IPX = yes WITHOUT_ISCSI = yes WITHOUT_KDUMP = yes WITHOUT_KERBEROS = yes WITHOUT_KERNEL_SYMBOLS = yes WITHOUT_KVM = yes WITHOUT_MAIL = yes WITHOUT_NCP = yes WITHOUT_NDIS = yes WITHOUT_NETGRAPH = yes WITHOUT_PF = yes WITHOUT_PMC = yes WITHOUT_QUOTAS = yes WITHOUT_RCMDS = yes WITHOUT_ROUTED = yes WITHOUT_SHAREDOCS = yes WITHOUT_ZFS = yes What can I do to solve that? 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Thanks and best wishes, Betty From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 20 07:10:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36EF9A5F22 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 07:10:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gregory.orange@calorieking.com) Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net (mail.au.calorieking.net [115.70.179.114]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 502561AA6 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 07:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gregory.orange@calorieking.com) Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7C6BE for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 15:09:46 +0800 (WST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at calorieking.com Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net ([127.0.0.1]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (mail.au.calorieking.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1ZWkbgIrVDJ4 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 15:09:44 +0800 (WST) Received: from egeria.internal (egeria.au.calorieking.net [192.168.2.111]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5E68AA9 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 15:09:44 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <55AC9EB6.7090704@calorieking.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 15:09:42 +0800 From: Gregory Orange User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: local copy of freebsd-update files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 07:10:02 -0000 Hi everyone, I would like to have a local server to point freebsd-update to. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 20 09:08:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB439A6480 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 09:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@freebsd.org) Received: from mailrelay116.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay116.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.20.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6BF1C4C for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 09:08:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@freebsd.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=Ax9Kd9og7W2htzcJF9odWb+87PP6pPoG1t8Q07ebhfo= c=1 sm=2 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=mroeBw_i14QqH3jOvtoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A2BhBgDKuaxV/++YsFtcgxOBPcNfAoEiPRABAQEBAQEBgQqEJAEBBCcTHB4FEAsYCSUPKh4GE4gyAcUQAQEBAQEBBAEBAQEei0yFBgeEKwEElFKHT4RRmQgmg348MYJLAQEB Received: from 239.152-176-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([91.176.152.239]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 20 Jul 2015 11:07:24 +0200 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id t6K97MaJ001691; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:07:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tijl@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:07:22 +0200 From: Tijl Coosemans To: Mike Clarke Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Shared object "libffi.so.6" not found Message-ID: <20150720110722.3de4133c@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: <1801484.8HheermeJ8@curlew.lan> References: <1801484.8HheermeJ8@curlew.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 09:08:35 -0000 On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 17:18:08 +0100 Mike Clarke wrote: > While booting 10.1-RELEASE I get the following message on the console: > > Shared object "libffi.so.6" not found, required by "libp11-kit.so.0" > > The message appears early in the boot process while network routing is being > set up. > > A few checks show that libffi.so.6 does exist: > > curlew:/home/mike% locate libp11-kit.so.0 > /usr/local/lib/libp11-kit.so.0 > /usr/local/lib/libp11-kit.so.0.1.0 > > curlew:/home/mike% ldd /usr/local/lib/libp11-kit.so.0 > /usr/local/lib/libp11-kit.so.0: > libffi.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libffi.so.6 (0x801660000) > libthr.so.3 => /lib/libthr.so.3 (0x801867000) > libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x80081f000) > > curlew:/home/mike% ls -l /usr/local/lib/libffi.so.6* > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 15 8 Jan 2015 /usr/local/lib/libffi.so.6@ -> > libffi.so.6.0.4 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 27960 8 Jan 2015 /usr/local/lib/libffi.so.6.0.4* > > I'm puzzled why I see the 'libffi.so.6 not found' message at a stage in the > boot process after local filesystems have been mounted. It's probably caused by a script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d that runs before /etc/rc.d/ldconfig instead of after. You can fix this order by adding DAEMON to the REQUIRE list at the beginning of that script. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 20 09:10:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608059A64D8 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 09:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@sdf.org) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C2C41D13 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 09:10:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@sdf.org) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:bennett@otaku.freeshell.org [192.94.73.9]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t6K9A9JQ028022 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO) for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 09:10:09 GMT Received: (from bennett@localhost) by sdf.org (8.14.8/8.12.8/Submit) id t6K9A9J6007857 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 04:10:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201507200910.t6K9A9J6007857@sdf.org> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 04:10:09 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: limiting find(1) in /etc/periodic scripts User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 6/20/10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 09:10:15 -0000 What is the best way to keep find(1) in the various /etc/periodic scripts from descending into certain directories? The problem I'm trying to solve is the wasted time and wear and tear on hardware from multiple, systemwide find(1) commands descending into root's CCACHE_DIR. I have the ccache set up for 5 directory levels, and it currently has 827,106 files in it, including grid-only-knows how many directories. Each find(1) can run for the better part of an hour, which causes a number of performance headaches, too. The only find(1) that I want run against that directory tree is the one in the security script that checks for SUID files. The rest are all wasted effort and maddening. I looked, but didn't find any sign of a variable in /etc/{defaults/,}periodic.conf to exclude directories from find(1)'s work assignments. Did I miss them? Or, if such do not exist, what is the best alternative method of excluding specific directory trees? Thanks for any ideas! Scott Bennett, Comm. 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John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 20 09:40:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC099A6B66 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 09:40:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FFB51F22 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 09:40:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-114.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.114]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC5B325386; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:40:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t6K9ea0T002358; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:40:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:40:36 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Scott Bennett Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: limiting find(1) in /etc/periodic scripts Message-Id: <20150720114036.b83e5116.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201507200910.t6K9A9J6007857@sdf.org> References: <201507200910.t6K9A9J6007857@sdf.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 09:40:40 -0000 On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 04:10:09 -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: > What is the best way to keep find(1) in the various /etc/periodic > scripts from descending into certain directories? If I remember correctly, find will only descend into directories that have the o+rx attribute (readable by everyone). If you do not want a subtree to be searched, make sure it's +rx for the owner and +rx for the group, as well as +w where needed, usually +rwx for the user. A typical setting then is drwxr-x--- for such directories. There is another problem: Directories such as /root should not be searched. The problem is that there will be an additional information leak, like $ locate system_secrets /root/system_secrets.txt And if "descriptive" file names (including names, locations, ID numbers, etc.) are involved, well... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 20 10:40:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14EC79A5483 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:40:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@sdf.org) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E589E886 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@sdf.org) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:bennett@otaku.freeshell.org [192.94.73.9]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t6KAdwQl029423 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:39:58 GMT Received: (from bennett@localhost) by sdf.org (8.14.8/8.12.8/Submit) id t6KAdwCU014203; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 05:39:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201507201039.t6KAdwCU014203@sdf.org> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 05:39:58 -0500 To: freebsd@edvax.de Subject: Re: limiting find(1) in /etc/periodic scripts Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201507200910.t6K9A9J6007857@sdf.org> <20150720114036.b83e5116.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150720114036.b83e5116.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 6/20/10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:40:08 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 04:10:09 -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: > > What is the best way to keep find(1) in the various /etc/periodic > > scripts from descending into certain directories? > > If I remember correctly, find will only descend into directories > that have the o+rx attribute (readable by everyone). If you do No, it goes wherever it has read access (plus execute access for directories). Also, the /etc/periodic scripts get run as root. > not want a subtree to be searched, make sure it's +rx for the > owner and +rx for the group, as well as +w where needed, usually > +rwx for the user. A typical setting then is drwxr-x--- for such > directories. > > There is another problem: > > Directories such as /root should not be searched. The problem > is that there will be an additional information leak, like > > $ locate system_secrets > /root/system_secrets.txt > Well, that's not a worry because the locate stuff has only created empty locate databases since sometime in FreeBSD 6. I've tried several times without success to get it to work and to get it to run as "nobody". It's almost as irritating as the five- minute stall for vi.recover during multi-user startup. > And if "descriptive" file names (including names, locations, > ID numbers, etc.) are involved, well... > That's why the locate.db stuff *should* run as nobody, which does not have read or execute permission for such directories, but since it doesn't work anyway, no real harm is done if the permissions are set wrong in this case (which they are *not*). Given that locate doesn't work, which is only run weekly, the only script I can think of that I want to run against root's CCACHE_DIR is, as I mentioned before, the SUID security check. Thanks for the thoughts, though, Polytropon. Scott Bennett, Comm. 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John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 20 11:31:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE60B9A5F0B for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:31:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org", Issuer "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A7901CD5 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:31:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t6KBNi6m011991; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 12:23:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <55ACDA40.7040908@qeng-ho.org> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 12:23:44 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Bennett , freebsd@edvax.de CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: limiting find(1) in /etc/periodic scripts References: <201507200910.t6K9A9J6007857@sdf.org> <20150720114036.b83e5116.freebsd@edvax.de> <201507201039.t6KAdwCU014203@sdf.org> In-Reply-To: <201507201039.t6KAdwCU014203@sdf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:31:17 -0000 On 20/07/2015 11:39, Scott Bennett wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > >> On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 04:10:09 -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: >>> What is the best way to keep find(1) in the various /etc/periodic >>> scripts from descending into certain directories? To control locate, you can edit /etc/locate.rc to modify PRUNEPATHS suitably. For the rest, I think you'll have to hack the periodic scripts directly. >> >> If I remember correctly, find will only descend into directories >> that have the o+rx attribute (readable by everyone). If you do > > No, it goes wherever it has read access (plus execute access > for directories). Also, the /etc/periodic scripts get run as root. > >> not want a subtree to be searched, make sure it's +rx for the >> owner and +rx for the group, as well as +w where needed, usually >> +rwx for the user. A typical setting then is drwxr-x--- for such >> directories. >> >> There is another problem: >> >> Directories such as /root should not be searched. The problem >> is that there will be an additional information leak, like >> >> $ locate system_secrets >> /root/system_secrets.txt >> > Well, that's not a worry because the locate stuff has only > created empty locate databases since sometime in FreeBSD 6. It's always worked fine for me, I'm currently on 10.1-REL. Do most of your files live on servers rather than the box you're running locate on? By default locate.updatedb does not consider files that are network mounted. To override edit FILESYSTEMS in /etc/locate.conf to control the flavours of filesystem that are searched. Mine has FILESYSTEMS="ufs zfs nfs" > I've > tried several times without success to get it to work and to get > it to run as "nobody". It's almost as irritating as the five- > minute stall for vi.recover during multi-user startup. But building the locate database already runs as nobody. Line 26 of /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate reads echo /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb | nice -n 5 su -fm nobody || rc=3 There's an su in the middle of that. If locate.updatedb is actually run as root it complains loudly (but does it anyway as you told it to). -- Those who do not learn from computing history are doomed to GOTO 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 20 12:20:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4ECB9A6D72 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 12:20:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-x22d.google.com (mail-wg0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 640651CEB for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 12:20:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by wgmn9 with SMTP id n9so129216727wgm.0 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 05:20:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tQp0hfepf/S90zm1oZcQC37bCFE1Ie7iG6hzZrDUERU=; b=k3rdbiRgwwvShK/DXcJHgeLCUIPr0PA7u8hoYjMy/NHNfdUBzKQcuWPtcPdJ2l6H8W 3FLxKHon16ZURf9Jw4aMldIhLQYLJSceMjXmCyX692D2uAOGq/aQPvaOd3KEvxzr56S7 DxWANwFPvDF0FKV3/ASYsN5jjnMHD7qBNwW6yrXeD6wXsE3rFXdYhJbByZlqDN1r3PPf JTduj4T2UOAcp09nVKcuUliIlFE76KUq4mWBlSZOvFdOyOxEwQ+GN5LiHaLw6Fgzm9k8 PNk5EXLzhBPp85dJE4oEB9du0Ala6hpUSMzL+fiNO87zI6g3dHmASc+KsTW5bqYwpowk b7yg== X-Received: by 10.181.13.109 with SMTP id ex13mr18477230wid.39.1437394851859; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 05:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (5ec1f672.skybroadband.com. [94.193.246.114]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l6sm11549116wib.18.2015.07.20.05.20.50 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 20 Jul 2015 05:20:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 13:20:47 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: limiting find(1) in /etc/periodic scripts Message-ID: <20150720132047.360cc9e8@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <201507201039.t6KAdwCU014203@sdf.org> References: <201507200910.t6K9A9J6007857@sdf.org> <20150720114036.b83e5116.freebsd@edvax.de> <201507201039.t6KAdwCU014203@sdf.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.27; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 12:20:53 -0000 On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 05:39:58 -0500 Scott Bennett wrote: > Well, that's not a worry because the locate stuff has only > created empty locate databases since sometime in FreeBSD 6. I've > tried several times without success to get it to work It works for me with the periodic script. You might have run into the problem I had when I tried to build a database for my home directory files. I don't know why, but it seems that find is sensitive to permissions on underlying mount-points. I had extra partitions mounted under ~/, and the permissions were set-up to prevent anything writing under or traversing the mount-points when nothing was mounted. This caused find to terminate with an error. I'm wondering if you've done something similar - /tmp is the most likely candidate. > and to get it to run as "nobody". It does run as nobody. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 20 13:30:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD0E9A6CA3 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 13:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shaun@virtualupgrade.com) Received: from mail1.intermedia.net (mail1.intermedia.net [64.78.61.123]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F21321EBB for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 13:30:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shaun@virtualupgrade.com) Received: from [100.105.205.46] (185.sub-70-215-15.myvzw.com [70.215.15.185]) (Authenticated sender: shaun@virtualupgrade.com) by mail1.intermedia.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6017E1DCB for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 06:25:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Shaun Stevens Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: A Message-Id: <44B3C221-0CE4-4ADB-91A8-AAE56297E4B1@virtualupgrade.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 09:25:10 -0400 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11B554a) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 13:30:03 -0000 A A a AW Sent from my iPhone From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 20 14:09:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B1C9A5547 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:09:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout07.plus.net (avasout07.plus.net [84.93.230.235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9AE1414CD for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:09:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([80.229.31.82]) by avasout07 with smtp id ue9F1q0051mJoLY01e9G8r; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 15:09:16 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=IdN6Ijea c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=cd0K7rcWwnZFf6xQxRobyA==:117 a=cd0K7rcWwnZFf6xQxRobyA==:17 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=DGUKCM7wfUEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zOBTXjUuO1YA:10 a=kvpvBNNMrm7wOS8R_zYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Y79-JfTjRSwA:10 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13] helo=milibyte.co.uk) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHBko-0001nR-Ql for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 15:09:15 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 15:09:14 +0100 Message-ID: <4195152.5rD1XZrU2I@curlew.lan> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE-p10; KDE/4.14.3; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <55ACDA40.7040908@qeng-ho.org> References: <201507200910.t6K9A9J6007857@sdf.org> <201507201039.t6KAdwCU014203@sdf.org> <55ACDA40.7040908@qeng-ho.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mike@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Subject: Re: limiting find(1) in /etc/periodic scripts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:09:26 -0000 On Monday 20 Jul 2015 12:23:44 Arthur Chance wrote: > To control locate, you can edit /etc/locate.rc to modify PRUNEPATHS > suitably. For the rest, I think you'll have to hack the periodic scripts > directly. PRUNEDIRS is probably more appropriate in this case. I've stopped locate.updatedb from scanning my ccache by appending .ccache to PRUNEDIRS. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 20 16:08:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE469A633E for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mfv@bway.net) Received: from smtp2.bway.net (smtp2.bway.net [216.220.96.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA9B11EC5 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mfv@bway.net) Received: from gecko4 (host-216-220-115-107.dsl.bway.net [216.220.115.107]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m1316v@bway.net) by smtp2.bway.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7C8B995876; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 12:08:24 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=bway.net; s=mail; t=1437408504; bh=u3V+gmSkbcO/6X5WAMI9cXXPyf8bPkeaYtdOYkx3a6A=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To; b=ERo3QD3TIJwtET3/uFrdVgpG4JYefv/fZFb4af23SObbG9Bi7us6BKJAgQ0e/D9sC H8NnvU8WqsxjPuywnkzFneiap4Jz01mQD2Kd2BG2txwAV2V9FTvp1dga/fbfpC3/hZ xZ9MO8whrzs0pOwoGPrSbDsECLN7BRIU09e1hTbA= Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 12:08:24 -0400 From: mfv To: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Cc: Lowell Gilbert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sync Ports to Packages Message-ID: <20150720120824.689005c5@gecko4> In-Reply-To: <868uacj94m.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <20150717145356.612a3a1e@gecko4> <44mvyulhdx.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20150718111438.10f593f7@gecko4> <868uacj94m.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Reply-To: mfv@bway.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:08:36 -0000 > On Sun, 2015-07-19 at 11:27 merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. > Schwartz) wrote: > >>>>>> "mfv" == mfv writes: > >mfv> To do this I first upgrade the binaries by invoking "pkg upgrade". >mfv> Then, after using a web browser to check out the appropriate beefy >mfv> server, I identify the build number of that upgrade. Finally, I >mfv> update the local ports tree by running "svnup ports -n ". >mfv> When finished, the ports and packages are synced. > >Why not just do it the other way around? Check out the latest ports, >and build them (even customize them) with poudriere? Then you'll know >precisely that your trees are in sync. > Hello Lowell, Thanks for your comments. They prompted me to take a closer look at poudriere. As FreeBSD is only on one workstation with a handful of customized ports I thought poudriere was overkill. Moreover, I mistakenly thought that all my ports had to be built using this program but recently discovered that a customized list of ports is possible. I'll give it a try. Cheers ... Marek From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 20 17:18:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D739A637C for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 17:18:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markoml@markoturk.info) Received: from vps.markoturk.info (vps.markoturk.info [95.154.208.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609391C24 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 17:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markoml@markoturk.info) Received: by vps.markoturk.info (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 42C21273A0; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 19:13:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 19:13:38 +0200 From: Marko Turk To: ajtiM Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.2 BETA-2 Message-ID: <20150720171338.GA81610@vps.markoturk.info> References: <1437319518.1541.9.camel@yandex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1437319518.1541.9.camel@yandex.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 17:18:46 -0000 --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 11:25:18AM -0400, ajtiM wrote: > Hi! >=20 > I upgrade 10.1-RELEASE (amd64) with freebsd-update upgrade to > FreeBSD 10.2-BETA2 #0 r285646: Fri Jul 17 01:09:28 UTC 2015 > root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >=20 > and now I have some problems: Hi, I also have problems with loader.conf, but with RCTL. I put kern.racct.enable=3D1 in loader.conf, but (after reboot) the sysctl is still 0. Has anyone else seen this? BR, Marko --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJVrSxCAAoJEDcRe7P/w1sjv1YQAMFtwWduXlIAeXQgFbYLX7FY KcKYTClocT/kXnF0t6C3qSHmiCGfrS5KNVq5Km7//GfspvHgnOANkTc5uKpeUarf HFrS1mLTE2Fqc2Lg4oLPbvn5JNfJka8td9gb4nGfJbzNxDTw7rqEeL9gb03b1oFa MSxNUcyKeIme55HgdurCvIPlqWQUEJWxIXE4X7eJh2puqE+F1Sl0widLuUCB9wVj anvTyyC1+4XrKvxD5fF2Yc3oX/LLookSN1qSM+t9NgZiWUkRrZ/CvTWLj+5naPdG UKcil1Xj/IPUXT1cgqO4OVNRM7zTN6oPpCrDNbf4IibpaeznoltpjiuQ8Uy1JA5i uJBmuCaJYMydlw7s7HwjiOVmOZ299NH1V6u8SqYw9+XgvPG9F1i7Ym6ZRgMwjS7M iSlvRd3JmTk/z3R3A6rIdZbN+KL67SLFvY5wraosq7WI21C6FMwk/cwnua9/dYPh ECS3yeFxD7sVscm9fBqs+h2CM9a2xDfDJ/az2WXNVlxM3z19R4UgCLLsqFCfCbNi bT1R8Ozu2YyHmbZnkBxWZU0TpdtiywAoZKAVoPnrqzOCfNg2Ho031evh85Q5QptF KNOm2Eu2O1WvAGINCRdqu1oiw0/gXMaDgEybz1VdC6of3AELWawdd3VIG00xX9P0 sYtaiBB9fPz2qdHbv+Cv =O2Rt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 20 17:20:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646529A6411 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 17:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@mjmmfg.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6E81D58 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 17:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@mjmmfg.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 4B03A9A6410; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 17:20:19 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308349A640F for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 17:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@mjmmfg.com) Received: from fishmael.dslx.net (fishmael.dslx.net [216.22.80.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C5F1D54 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 17:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@mjmmfg.com) Received: from mjmmfg.com ([63.161.157.114]) by fishmael.dslx.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id t6KGWcMK014468 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 12:32:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Alexander Mijares" Reply-To: alex@mjmmfg.com To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: metal fabrication X-Mailer: SendBlaster.1.6.2 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 13:20:03 -0400 Message-ID: <3172627925762820610916@st98> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 17:20:19 -0000 Good Morning =20 Hope all is well... I wanted to follow up and just touch base with you, to = see if you have any new or forthcoming sheetmetal or machining RFQ's that w= e may be able to assit you with=3F Anything you can send our way is greatl= y appreciated.=20 =20 Have a fantastic day! =20 =20 http://www.mjmmfg.com =20 =20 Sincerely and Respectfully, Alexander Mijares C.O.O ITAR registered ISO 9001:2008 DBE CERTIFIED =20 M J M Manufacturing Inc. 5205 NW 161 Street Miami, FL. 33014 ----------------------- 305 / 620-2020 305 / 625-3342 fax Email: Alex@mjmmfg.com Website: www.mjmmfg.com http://www.mjmmfg.com/mjm-brochure.pdf=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 21 04:08:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3499A6C2B for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 04:08:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emailrob@risebroadband.net) Received: from imta-35.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.everyone.net", Issuer "DigiCert High Assurance CA-3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26D351AE5 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 04:08:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emailrob@risebroadband.net) Received: from pps.filterd (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t6L45bAU021512; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 21:08:46 -0700 X-Eon-Dm: dm0215.everyone.net Received: by dm0215.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4272bd8c) id dm0215.55887175.67d3a; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 21:08:45 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQPOPGJVrcXNBvp+ewIAAAAC,bf3af29153b0fa80196b38a9cb0c45cd X-Originating-Ip: 66.114.189.140 Message-ID: <55ADC5CE.5050207@risebroadband.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 04:08:46 +0000 From: spellberg_robert Reply-To: emailrob@emailrob.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130417 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: [ OT ] recommendations for a domain_name registrar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.14.151, 1.0.33, 0.0.0000 definitions=2015-07-21_01:2015-07-20,2015-07-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1506180000 definitions=main-1507210067 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 04:08:55 -0000 howdy folks --- it has been a --very-- long time since i posted to any list ; i trust that everyone is well . i think that this means that , with a few years of experience , i am getting to be reasonably good at solving my own problems myself [ my first fbsd was in the high twos ; it was in the back of the walnut_creek book that greg lehey wrote ] . normally , i would not send an off_topic post ; however , i know that many readers of this list are , in some way , in the "isp" game . my guess is that more_than_a_few , of said readers , are in a position to answer this question . i believe that this question will have sufficiently broad appeal . permit me to digress , briefly , for the purpose of defining context . this being rural america , for about 18 years , all that i could get , at --this-- site , was dial_up , at about 25 kb/s . try as i might , every isp would tell me that i was "outside of their service_area" , except for those offering dial_up [ yes , yes , i know about satellite ; it disappears in bad weather , when i want to look at the radar_loop for tornadoes ] . just recently , i learned of an isp that --can-- "get here from there" [ a unit of the fine folks at rise broadband ; now that i know about them , i observe that they do not advertise very much , which may explain the recentness of my discovery of their existence ] . for four weeks , now , i have been "living large" , at , typically , 500 kb/s to 2000 kb/s . --finally-- , this means that i can take public that portion of my lan that , for a long time , i have been intending to be public [ e . g . , fire_wall , dns , mail , et_c . ] . this brings me to my point . i already have some good names , through network_solutions , in the dot_com , dot_net and dot_org spaces . i would not mind their high prices so much , if they just did not play such games with the customer [ ever notice that you have to decline "auto_renew" about six times ? some_times , they are sneaky about it , in the fine_print ; then , there is that "transfer_lock" , for my "protection" ] . let us face it ; because of the games , i --do-- mind the high prices . all that i need is a registrar , with a reasonable price for a ten_year lease on each name , easy transfer [ actually , i expect ns to be the problem , here ] and no grief . for anything else , i am either doing it myself or i can find a vendor [ e . g . , i found rise_bb for a connection and one ip_address ; i have not conclusively established if they can supply a /29 ; they really do target the "low_information" crowd ] . because all that i want is the name , the registration service , it_self , should be in_expensive . i should point_out that , a_while back , some_one had told me about "namebargain.com" and that they had been happy with them . i went looking at them today and i discovered that they are part of the same group that has network_solutions [ "web_dot_com" ] ; this put me off of them , real fast [ if my apprehension is mis_placed , please advise ] . also , i should point_out that i can do an online search for the big players as well as the next person ; every one of those players will claim that they are the next_best_thing to cellophane_wrapped bakery_sliced bread . they all will have photoes of smiling actors who portray their happy customers [ some , i am sure ] and their knowledgable support personnel [ some , i am sure ] . q : has any_one had a sufficiently good registrar experience , that not only leaves you willing to re_up with them , but causes you to speak positively about them ? thanx in advance . there is no need to cc , as i have already subscribed to -questions , in anticipation of some other , more on_topic , submissions . rob spellberg mchenry county , illinois From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 21 04:48:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9729A71D6 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 04:48:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A95F5185D for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 04:48:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from zero-gravitas.local ([IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:2ef0:eeff:fe24:fa38]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id t6L4mDhQ096218 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 05:48:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk t6L4mDhQ096218 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/t6L4mDhQ096218; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:2ef0:eeff:fe24:fa38] claimed to be zero-gravitas.local Message-ID: <55ADCF06.20500@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 05:48:06 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ OT ] recommendations for a domain_name registrar References: <55ADC5CE.5050207@risebroadband.net> In-Reply-To: <55ADC5CE.5050207@risebroadband.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XlpreoJqCL7msoDsCQ6tNowXiEEw5SGGb" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 04:48:34 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --XlpreoJqCL7msoDsCQ6tNowXiEEw5SGGb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2015/07/21 05:08, spellberg_robert wrote: > all that i need is a registrar , with > a reasonable price for a ten_year lease on each name , > easy transfer [ actually , i expect ns to be the problem , here ] and= > no grief . gandi.net are my goto company for DNS registrations. Can't praise them highly enough. Only problem, from your point of view, is that they are a French company, but you can pay for everything in US$ on their site. Oh, and they will throw in use of their nameservers free of charge with the purchase of any domain. (Mind you, that's standard for anyone in the business of domain registration nowadays.) Cheers, Matthew --XlpreoJqCL7msoDsCQ6tNowXiEEw5SGGb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJVrc8NXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQxOUYxNTRFQ0JGMTEyRTUwNTQ0RTNGMzAw MDUxM0YxMEUwQTlFNEU3AAoJEABRPxDgqeTn/qcP+wZp462ACkjGD2ur61dfl5zM BKIEQYx7WSsTKyRX0yuLqq1y0fB1AeX32g1cUI+F6ODZuVhkJwecLwcpli/2HdFm Mfx7kK+gaajF+TH3VboXJHoQJ3oUUiOvEeQVTjlggvWJcR/R/RpQvrKbLV5QuYfg mvjv18njkpjWyTRwBiUQcaf9MjI2QZUFjMQdstS7Sajt4KXuiWU7ZkeTg4kZOAWA UYi+fHbjwl+7uKoPMRIXvlPhczWh/77c/PpJ4+YVop80DzYZLb4PHpTd/F2N6fi/ kujvWOX/IgZGIsavGm550MWkjh7DruhXoiTT+0ESk0eaPTlnF7i9/iMGoqoISKcu SmmtMcT4sCfgoCr7h4/TWA4cm+w0N7I/D4sB+XCMK0QBuTbcmgFdHDIk9Bmgh7iV 5wwK0aYDCZiupgqOSS2ocdFB3thXQMY1E3WhWvI2r3ZmSfv4/MWWqBqlOkRCZ3RG 1b1KNKUwPTvCNbZJGpUfWgiG/l67PGd2ef+tGhU9n/mjqHIS9Dqw1iCJJP8V1P7O h8qM5Xt46xWdhhWx+EOfa14SfHzhrJiknzMOgsnkCPFvz2vIOukF9X+vHbDywt3T xZIAHtTbBnroqxpCDGc50oCQK/GlJclrvpLroJE9CjhdyJPKlfDGx0CCm4bX44hG /ChOu9DZxGympooD63IQ =drTX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XlpreoJqCL7msoDsCQ6tNowXiEEw5SGGb-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 21 05:29:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19CB9A7812 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 05:29:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979E319A1 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 05:29:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (static-71-177-216-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.177.216.148]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.7/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t6L54Qn7073834 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 22:04:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\)) Subject: Re: [ OT ] recommendations for a domain_name registrar From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <55ADCF06.20500@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 22:04:25 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <55ADC5CE.5050207@risebroadband.net> <55ADCF06.20500@FreeBSD.org> To: FreeBSD - X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 05:29:30 -0000 > On 20 July 2015, at 21:48, Matthew Seaman wrote: >=20 > On 2015/07/21 05:08, spellberg_robert wrote: >> all that i need is a registrar , with >> a reasonable price for a ten_year lease on each name , >> easy transfer [ actually , i expect ns to be the problem , here ] = and >> no grief . >=20 > gandi.net are my goto company for DNS registrations. Can't praise = them > highly enough. Only problem, from your point of view, is that they = are > a French company, but you can pay for everything in US$ on their site. >=20 > Oh, and they will throw in use of their nameservers free of charge = with > the purchase of any domain. (Mind you, that's standard for anyone in > the business of domain registration nowadays.) I have used GoDaddy successfully for a few domains. Their system tends = to change the user interface periodically, but I can usually figure it = out. Prices tend to vary considerably depending on the top level domain = name. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 21 09:49:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E309A68A6 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 09:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-qk0-x22c.google.com (mail-qk0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3D7F1437 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 09:49:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: by qkfc129 with SMTP id c129so86240668qkf.1 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 02:49:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TignODDq0RmMCXAaqjrCN/Ne9H/UeSKoTFEsvvjsVPw=; b=iFhKo7KIXOYlA55feeb5dvLQt+ozc5LytLgpxSscUynrLF5YrNtEbtB+drAuk7cL3o djKDrC4CB2jEo01gvd9C/IYQV9ht0chZlRmjUyrhQg/oZShFBAi0vmxptEEkb62yhTR+ TyQ3v7DLAe0i61h2rvGk126JZ4wnDHu8lPrSk= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:reply-to:organization:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TignODDq0RmMCXAaqjrCN/Ne9H/UeSKoTFEsvvjsVPw=; b=QXXJFWeBYHx9CoBAKuKHr1/9y/+SxUjtAQQd/WGJizGUuBBTCMvLqcn24vjz/Fk4T9 liuXwEIvPRwsC7pmk3wGFlxfqSMFg0NC66BW4PuSyKm0+y2FIUU07x4hLXFNaILBT5HB puuMeIX6ROv5uLq0lV1FCN6jzn8DPWYD18fD//tIBYe6euO2a9/pgfVdYYqUQTGqipu4 76BfNkBB841gBuWEZMOHmRI2JiqVeTySPstOqW11Q32Hy6ZhrSKjH6DTC9fqy+2VeTCZ 7ZPQwWB7OHhwGqXX5bCJDBGNrA8jr95DhBKodhMKegbUOriH1fT7IQJesE2QGflE9Ge3 jmAg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk98Y8s+R9L6uvT4tCHeb+s8GA8bIRombencm5fO31rbv9p0KFMVojRWQm4bxeL6SseejEm X-Received: by 10.140.97.75 with SMTP id l69mr40675378qge.50.1437472141684; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 02:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-174-109-28-112.nc.res.rr.com. [174.109.28.112]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j62sm12380951qhc.33.2015.07.21.02.49.00 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 21 Jul 2015 02:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3mbFW00Wn0z3DlXl for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 05:49:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 05:48:59 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD FreeBSD Subject: Re: [ OT ] recommendations for a domain_name registrar Message-ID: <20150721054859.1404c355@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: References: <55ADC5CE.5050207@risebroadband.net> <55ADCF06.20500@FreeBSD.org> Reply-To: FreeBSD FreeBSD Organization: seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.27; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 09:49:03 -0000 On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 22:04:25 -0700, Doug Hardie stated: > I have used GoDaddy successfully for a few domains. Their system tends to > change the user interface periodically, but I can usually figure it out. > Prices tend to vary considerably depending on the top level domain name. I have used GoDaddy myself, with excellent results. I never had any problem with "Auto Renewal" either. The one time I had a technical problem, I was able to reach tech via phone immediately and received excellent service. I was impressed. The technician spoke real English. This is not a racist remark. I just cannot usually understand what these service technicians from India are saying clearly. Matthew recommended a French company. That is fine as long as they either offer support in English, or you speak French. Little things like this mean a lot. I had a friend who got involved with a German comp[any, a totally different issue than this one. He doesn't speak German and had one hell of a time getting anyone there who spoke English. Just my 2¢. -- Jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 21 10:20:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A499A716A for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:20:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62C021E4A for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id t6LAK2mM003743 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 11:20:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=freebsd.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk t6LAK2mM003743 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/t6LAK2mM003743; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com Message-ID: <55AE1CD2.5080005@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 11:20:02 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ OT ] recommendations for a domain_name registrar References: <55ADC5CE.5050207@risebroadband.net> <55ADCF06.20500@FreeBSD.org> <20150721054859.1404c355@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20150721054859.1404c355@seibercom.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="I8pDDIGFrFUaaiWeK46bBiPwBVl1h0ra4" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:20:08 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --I8pDDIGFrFUaaiWeK46bBiPwBVl1h0ra4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/21/15 10:48, Jerry wrote: > Matthew recommended a French company. That is fine > as long as they either offer support in English, or you speak French. They've always produced a good standard of English in my dealings with them -- most over e-mail though. Cheers, Matthew --I8pDDIGFrFUaaiWeK46bBiPwBVl1h0ra4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVrhzSAAoJEABRPxDgqeTnlMQP+gLVwMNCRW/6NwDuvHswIVl7 CxTYmpbVYly6wFetXIC3zCdhNSdIUsFQ21i0vdCyKhgfVLf/bbqEEWITrTgxV3Jt G6pUQxFNpLmAYIPuMXKApo1Cw/rpjqEoKK5u6w5ZgzT847O9PUngnQSYSSpiwPC7 /+aXCu2Po/+uvw2coF31RKRU/pvRMsKGt2Km+uRnJ+X3DfrMuExYKyjDWyejUhSW DebEm25g6rU2pfRAGaXUnEx5O2ncTWqmcZn+pzgDHj00ki3c8+yG/N4rMTyAJUVe V/G114VA76lUGNam5wvdLk8BrvpYwbr9RBlQ/jevYichTHOCBDntA15JyJOaFkpl xjGj3TAxqtXpJXq2VXe2LZ7Fp5HzWtwpgLIKBoh5raqBUVNx1EUD1eBLuWnF3GYL 4HCRZWaqt1hyNkvTpBAV+0pVtyEtEX6zr2XMahkw+mVnuqBEYXyM9wYA1QeQXYv+ 4lrjT7ZNrZrUjZA+Sl61ozTb2Ml9gGX8ukcTat2T7QNKQUQjajsSlQwRYWMt3eiq 0zpKW60YGXkG8MxwpM1ZHmBUQHGq8ckMzE2zbYonQKcnxbqgpcODD1dc70pE59La 576QQAzuaWetv8I9fTGeNsF1CeK/GPDmpfY6sB/dO3CwMlP6rHsiamgDtc9ZcUEf ffKDQlHjwv5ckoO1+XUl =0wKM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --I8pDDIGFrFUaaiWeK46bBiPwBVl1h0ra4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 21 13:34:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1779A5045 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:34:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.radel.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8ADED10D3 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:34:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.18.7 (ClamAV engine v0.98.7) Received: from [2001:470:880a:4389:3089:a230:eb5:8498] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.2 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 831995 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:34:10 +0000 Subject: Re: [ OT ] recommendations for a domain_name registrar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <55ADC5CE.5050207@risebroadband.net> <55ADCF06.20500@FreeBSD.org> <20150721054859.1404c355@seibercom.net> <55AE1CD2.5080005@freebsd.org> From: Jon Radel Message-ID: <55AE4A51.1060209@radel.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 09:34:09 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55AE1CD2.5080005@freebsd.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms020706040900010305040906" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:34:20 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020706040900010305040906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 7/21/15 6:20 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 07/21/15 10:48, Jerry wrote: >> Matthew recommended a French company. That is fine >> as long as they either offer support in English, or you speak French. > They've always produced a good standard of English in my dealings with > them -- most over e-mail though. > > French company? Not really quite so simple anymore. Gandi was=20 certainly founded in France and is still headquartered there. For some=20 years, however, they have had US facilities (offices in San Francisco,=20 one of their 3 primary data centers is in Baltimore, and I'm not sure if = anything else). Even before that growth, and I've been with them since=20 2001 which is pretty close to when they started selling domain services, = I've never had communications issues in English that I can recall. As a = matter of fact, I was a bit disappointed when I was switched over to a=20 US based contract, as I'd signed with Gandi in part to be less subject=20 to what were rather trigger happy US courts back in the day. Officially, Gandi will support you in French, English, Spanish, and=20 Chinese. I've only ever tested English. :-) If you really desire phone support, they may not be for you. They very = strongly push you in the direction of using their online ticketing which = is integrated with email for follow-up. I've found them very responsive = and personally prefer their system over the option of waiting on hold to = get to 2nd tier support or higher. (I've rarely ever had any use for=20 first tier support at the competition, as I, sadly, generally understand = the technology *and* their employer's technical limitations better than=20 the folks who answer the phones. My recent go arounds and arounds and=20 arounds with staff at Network Solutions over DNSSEC support for a domain = that I handle the technical bits for as a courtesy to a non-profit are a = case in point. Eventually I muttered, "How the mighty have fallen," and = lodged a complaint with the registry that NS shouldn't be listed as=20 supporting DNSSEC. ) Bottom line: All my domains I really care about are at Gandi. I use=20 somebody slightly cheaper to park the domains that I'm ambivalent about. --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms020706040900010305040906 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCC Cq8wggSvMIIDl6ADAgECAhEA4CPLFRKDU4mtYW56VGdrITANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFADBvMQsw CQYDVQQGEwJTRTEUMBIGA1UEChMLQWRkVHJ1c3QgQUIxJjAkBgNVBAsTHUFkZFRydXN0IEV4 dGVybmFsIFRUUCBOZXR3b3JrMSIwIAYDVQQDExlBZGRUcnVzdCBFeHRlcm5hbCBDQSBSb290 MB4XDTE0MTIyMjAwMDAwMFoXDTIwMDUzMDEwNDgzOFowgZsxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkdCMRswGQYD VQQIExJHcmVhdGVyIE1hbmNoZXN0ZXIxEDAOBgNVBAcTB1NhbGZvcmQxGjAYBgNVBAoTEUNP TU9ETyBDQSBMaW1pdGVkMUEwPwYDVQQDEzhDT01PRE8gU0hBLTI1NiBDbGllbnQgQXV0aGVu dGljYXRpb24gYW5kIFNlY3VyZSBFbWFpbCBDQTCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADggEPADCC 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ggroth@gregs-garage.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.gregs-garage.com: www set sender to ggroth@gregs-garage.com using -f To: Raimund Sacherer Subject: Re: Kerberos X-PHP-Originating-Script: 0:rcube.php MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 08:42:50 -0500 From: Greg Groth Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1705342318.38348913.1437127498114.JavaMail.zimbra@logitravel.com> References: <75d664eeb361264e9b4560a89b1a32bf@mail.gregs-garage.com> <1383995814.37100404.1437030764957.JavaMail.zimbra@logitravel.com> <4582000dcfad2dc26ca4076d2024f23f@mail.gregs-garage.com> <1705342318.38348913.1437127498114.JavaMail.zimbra@logitravel.com> Message-ID: <206c1ceb58b14e4ce86fb2a27be3907c@mail.gregs-garage.com> X-Sender: ggroth@gregs-garage.com User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.2 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.gregs-garage.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:43:01 -0000 On 2015-07-17 05:04, Raimund Sacherer wrote: > Hello Greg, > > on a first glance I can't see anything really out of order, if it > helps, I use(d) this pages to setup kerberos and apache auth: > http://www.grolmsnet.de/kerbtut/ > http://blog.scottlowe.org/2006/08/10/kerberos-based-sso-with-apache/ > > The account you create for the service principal has to be a user > account, it does not work with a machine account. > > If you authenticate without the key tab, just a user from the ad > (create a user and test a kinit user@EXAMPLE.COM, later klist). Check > if a simple user authentication works in the first place. > > Hope that this will help you in any way, > > Best > Ray Many thanks for replying. I have to be doing something wrong with the ktpass command on the DC, but for the life of me, I'm not sure what the issue is. I created a user named aduser, and can obtain a ticket by using kinit aduser@EXAMPLE.COM from the BSD server, but using kinit -k aduser or kinit -t /etc/krb5.keytab aduser always returns "kinit: krb5_get_init_creds: Already tried ENC-TS-info, looping" This is what I've been trying on the DC to create a keytab file: ktpass /princ HTTP/atbsd.example.com@EXAMPLE.COM /mapuser aduser@EXAMPLE.COM /pass P@$$word /crypto RC4-HMAC-NT /ptype RB5_NT_PRINCIPAL /out C:\temp\krb5.keytab Once I run the command on the DC, the userPrincipalName for aduser gets replaced with "HTTP/atbsd.example.com". Does the servicePrincipalName need to be set to the same as well? I've tried it with the UPN sert, the SPN set, and both the UPN & SPN set to "HTTP/atbsd.example.com", but it doesn't seem to make a difference. When I run ktutil list --keys on the BSD box, I get: Vno Type Principal Key Aliases 32 arcfour-hmac-md5 HTTP/atbsd.example.com@EXAMPLE.COM XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX I thought I read somewhere that the DC is looking for a match on the UPN, which appears to be identical. The only other troubleshooting I've been able to do is to use a packet sniffer, and it appears that the DC is waiting for a password which is never supplied? I have not installed the krb5 port, and have been using whatever version is installed in the base distro (heimdal?). I noted on the TechNet page at MS that ktpass is based on the MIT version of Kerberos. Do I need the krb5 port in place of whatever version is included in the base distro to get this to work? Best regards, Greg Groth From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 21 15:17:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFDC9A7B59 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:17:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35E615C0; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:17:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id DA4CACB8CA8; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:17:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.70.188 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:17:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3826.128.135.70.188.1437491846.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <55ADCF06.20500@FreeBSD.org> References: <55ADC5CE.5050207@risebroadband.net> <55ADCF06.20500@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:17:26 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [ OT ] recommendations for a domain_name registrar From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Matthew Seaman" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:17:34 -0000 On Mon, July 20, 2015 11:48 pm, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 2015/07/21 05:08, spellberg_robert wrote: >> all that i need is a registrar , with >> a reasonable price for a ten_year lease on each name , >> easy transfer [ actually , i expect ns to be the problem , here ] and >> no grief . > > gandi.net are my goto company for DNS registrations. Can't praise them > highly enough. Only problem, from your point of view, is that they are > a French company, but you can pay for everything in US$ on their site. > > Oh, and they will throw in use of their nameservers free of charge with > the purchase of any domain. (Mind you, that's standard for anyone in > the business of domain registration nowadays.) > The more everybody praises gandi.net, the more I'm willing to describe my own experience. One of people we were sending e-mail to has domain hosted by them and appears to use their mail servers for his domain. The person is "RFC ignorant" (which is OK as this is not how he earns his living), so I will leave out some details. When our server was sending this person e-mail, we were getting the following bounce message: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: host spool.mail.gandi.net[217.70.184.6] said: 553 5.7.1 : Sender address rejected: Bad NS record (in reply to RCPT TO command) I left out recipient, and sender, the only relevant here is my server name: oddjob.uchicago.edu. If someone inspects my server DNS records I will appreciate any pointers to their inconsistency ;-) I, however, find them in good order. That said: the diagnostics on the side of gandi.net is bogus (you can not extract any information from that). Attempt to send e-mail to postmaster@[hosted at gandi domain] to clear the matters is not accepted, which is a violation of RFC (what is relevant RFC number?). So, all in all my impression about gandi.net is... you can imagine which. I shouldn't probably apply to them "RFC ignorant" clause but rather to their user, still cryptic bounce message is gandi.net's central mail system doing. Latest installation of thunderbird mail client trying to make everybody at first start get gandi.net e-mail address yet even more sets me off. Just my $0.02 Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 21 15:25:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3B99A7D9B for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:25:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Received: from oneyou.mcmli.com (oneyou.mcmli.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:af30::100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "oneyou.mcmli.com", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C2AD1BD6 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:25:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Received: from sentry.24cl.com (sentry.24cl.com [IPv6:2001:558:6017:a2:c48f:b89e:4255:ea63]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "sentry.24cl.com", Issuer "Mike's Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by oneyou.mcmli.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3mbNyk1GBlzBt8y for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 11:25:02 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=mgm51.com; s=mgm51-02; t=1437492302; bh=MZRmzXr53EVLfTXQ1/m3RHQcgyQdTZQ1t9uASaWBYq0=; h=Subject:To:From:Message-ID:Date; b=Z+w+rQHUcNDky38/b17x6E6PBKlI1f1l20XG2SO3G6ByhwoOdH2++CfiZQJYEzHoh ye8oFgvipdj3y5PphFNoZ2QkCkpy6ZgsPrcezRBon4OvJUmrIDrNYde666Hd+xeaZO b5gCpK4ucBeOLIxzcsJ+6X1Ce/xQt7QdGPjJhLLD/qVq53s4kteE3ZpG4FGyAAumS6 oOCK7BUV6oXpxTDRsIMo+0hhs44hf2JYkqkW6R07m/GRZAm3Lnlh81nI2ckN/J26Nx wMlYIwIhB/DAYNjG+RQ9XjhfqOsmJ+YTuBptEx0FaQQsgZwrqN1cIdhGSllifTie3Q 3xnlqq/CUMyAw== Received: from [IPv6:fdcf:b715:2f4d:1:ec40:8c3d:359e:29ed] (unknown [IPv6:fdcf:b715:2f4d:1:ec40:8c3d:359e:29ed]) by sentry.24cl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3mbNyh4jFPz1nYW for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 11:25:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [ OT ] recommendations for a domain_name registrar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <55ADC5CE.5050207@risebroadband.net> <55ADCF06.20500@FreeBSD.org> <20150721054859.1404c355@seibercom.net> <55AE1CD2.5080005@freebsd.org> <55AE4A51.1060209@radel.com> <20150721141651.GA51845@neutralgood.org> From: Mike Message-ID: <55AE6445.3000103@mgm51.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 11:24:53 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20150721141651.GA51845@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:25:03 -0000 I've recently moved a couple of my domains to gkg.net for DNSSEC support. GKG provides full DNSSEC support, including managing and rotating keys. It is a checkbox on their DNS hosting service (provided at no cost if you register your domain there). The full DNSSEC support is not overtly mentioned in detail on their website, but it's available. If you want to manage your own keys, GKG provides both an API and a web interface to submit your DS records. IPv6 DNS records are supported. Support is very good. My only nit with them would be that their name servers listen only on IPv4. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 21 16:05:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F62E9A7537 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:05:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.radel.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50AD81436 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:05:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.18.7 (ClamAV engine v0.98.7) Received: from [2001:470:880a:4389:3089:a230:eb5:8498] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.2 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 832119; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:05:15 +0000 Subject: Re: [ OT ] recommendations for a domain_name registrar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <55ADC5CE.5050207@risebroadband.net> <55ADCF06.20500@FreeBSD.org> <20150721054859.1404c355@seibercom.net> <55AE1CD2.5080005@freebsd.org> <55AE4A51.1060209@radel.com> <20150721141651.GA51845@neutralgood.org> Cc: kpneal@pobox.com From: Jon Radel Message-ID: <55AE6DBB.5060408@radel.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 12:05:15 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20150721141651.GA51845@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms040702010300070100050602" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:05:18 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040702010300070100050602 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 7/21/15 10:16 AM, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > I'm with Network Solutions but looking to move to someone reputable=20 > who _properly_ supports DNSSEC and IPv6 from their web interface. Does = > Gandi's web interface support adding keys, key rollover, and all the=20 > other stuff that goes along with DNSSEC? And IPv6 while I'm at it?=20 The key domains I have with Gandi all have DNSSEC over both ipv4 and=20 ipv6. I've had no issues, though I'll admit that I've not bothered=20 with a KSK roll-over yet. Based on the web interface, however, I have=20 no doubts about my ability to manage multiple DS records. I run my own master servers and use Gandi only for secondary, so can't=20 address the integration of their DNSSEC tools with their standard set of = primary servers (which are both ipv4 and ipv6). The weakest point is that their ipv6 support is not yet fully mature. =20 For example, if you use them for only secondary DNS, last I checked that = was available only in ipv4, though there was an enhancement ticket to=20 remedy that floating around. I've also discussed some of their ipv6=20 routing, a broken ipv6 resolver in their IaaS environment, and so on,=20 with them over the past year. While they've been quite responsive in=20 improving things, clearly ipv4 users are still the squeaky wheels more=20 often, and there are still kinks here and there on the ipv6 network. 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Jul 2015 18:13:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t6LGD6CT003150; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:13:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:13:06 +0200 From: Polytropon To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ OT ] recommendations for a domain_name registrar Message-Id: <20150721181306.2eac67eb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <3826.128.135.70.188.1437491846.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> References: <55ADC5CE.5050207@risebroadband.net> <55ADCF06.20500@FreeBSD.org> <3826.128.135.70.188.1437491846.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:13:16 -0000 On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:17:26 -0500 (CDT), Valeri Galtsev wrote: > That said: the diagnostics on the side of gandi.net is > bogus (you can not extract any information from that). Attempt to send > e-mail to postmaster@[hosted at gandi domain] to clear the matters is not > accepted, which is a violation of RFC (what is relevant RFC number?). Are you refering to RFC 2142? "However, if a given service is offerred, then the associated mailbox name(es) must be supported, resulting in delivery to a recipient appropriate for the referenced service or role." For a provider of e-mail and DNS, the following should apply: MAILBOX SERVICE SPECIFICATIONS ----------- ---------------- --------------------------- POSTMASTER SMTP [RFC821], [RFC822] HOSTMASTER DNS [RFC1033-RFC1035] I think this is what you should be able to expect from a company that offers a non-trivial service as mentioned above... Source: https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2142.txt -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 21 16:13:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029819A76E3 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.radel.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9F061A82 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:13:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.18.7 (ClamAV engine v0.98.7) Received: from [2001:470:880a:4389:3089:a230:eb5:8498] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.2 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 832127; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:13:22 +0000 Subject: Re: [ OT ] recommendations for a domain_name registrar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <55ADC5CE.5050207@risebroadband.net> <55ADCF06.20500@FreeBSD.org> <20150721054859.1404c355@seibercom.net> <55AE1CD2.5080005@freebsd.org> <55AE4A51.1060209@radel.com> <20150721141651.GA51845@neutralgood.org> <55AE6DBB.5060408@radel.com> Cc: kpneal@pobox.com From: Jon Radel Message-ID: <55AE6FA2.8080204@radel.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 12:13:22 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55AE6DBB.5060408@radel.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms020402010506060001020607" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:13:25 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020402010506060001020607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 7/21/15 12:05 PM, Jon Radel wrote: > > I run my own master servers and use Gandi only for secondary, so can't = > address the integration of their DNSSEC tools with their standard set=20 > of primary servers (which are both ipv4 and ipv6). > Alas, it turns out that I can address this. I have one domain on their=20 nameservers (as I've not gotten around to moving it yet=20 post-purchase). The web interface reports "It is not currently=20 possible to use DNSSEC with Gandi's DNS servers." So if you want to use = DNSSEC you need to run your own primary DNS. 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mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126D99A7FD7 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:34:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from outbound.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96CDC109F for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:34:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from [192.168.100.230] (cpc72297-sgyl28-2-0-cust55.18-2.cable.virginm.net [81.98.112.56]) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound.ifdnrg.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id t6LIDZt8002184 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:13:37 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) X-Authentication-Warning: outbound.ifdnrg.com: Host cpc72297-sgyl28-2-0-cust55.18-2.cable.virginm.net [81.98.112.56] claimed to be [192.168.100.230] Subject: Re: r220's with serial To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <55773D18.3060804@ifdnrg.com> From: Paul Macdonald Message-ID: <55AE8BD1.2020707@ifdnrg.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 19:13:37 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55773D18.3060804@ifdnrg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:34:04 -0000 On 09/06/2015 20:23, Paul Macdonald wrote: > > has anyone managed to get serial console access working under dell > r220's. > This was due to an ACPI bug in r220's Marcel Moolenaar provided me with a fix which is: -BIOS- Serial Communication Serial Port Address External Serial Connector -FreeBSD- adding the following line to /boot/loader.conf: hw.uart.console="io:0x2f8,br:57600" ..... From the looks of it, you have a BIOS bug. In particular a bug in the ACPI AML (you can dump the ACPI AML with acpidump -d). If I understand it correctly then the first 2 serial devices (UAR1 and UAR2) have the same H/W registers. What this boils down to is that the kernel only works with 1 serial port (UAR1), which ends up having the H/W configuration of the second serial port (UAR2). With the BIOS redirecting to COM1 (which is H/W address 0x3f8) and serial device 1 assigned to COM1 *and* serial device assigned to the serial port on the chassis, the kernel had no chance to present a login prompt. I worked around the problem by reconfiguring the BIOS so that COM2 (which is H/W address 0x2f8) is assigned to serial port 1 and the BIOS redirecting to COM2. What this does is have COM2 connected to the serial port on the chassis. So, even though I suspect that the kernel thinks it’s talking to the first serial port, it’s actually talking to the second serial port (due to the ACPI/BIOS bus). > > -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07970339546 e: paul@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com ------------------------- IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA ---------------------------------------------------- High Specification Dedicated Servers from £100.00pm ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 21 19:24:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D9C9A7861 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 19:24:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C11CD1962 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 19:24:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-207-98-175-216.knology.net [207.98.175.216] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t6LJOEAd014315 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:24:17 -0500 Message-ID: <55AE9C55.4060306@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:30:20 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: NFS issue Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 19:24:25 -0000 I booted up an old machine yesterday (predecessor to this box, as it happens) to recover some stuff (which it turned out I already had :-/). I accessed its HDD using automount. I looked around, figured out I already had everything I needed, su'ed to root & poweroff'ed, *before* the automount on this box had a chance to unmount the HDD from the other box. This got me an error message in my messages file, but nothing else, except that whenever I do a 'df' since (which would show the automounted HDD's from other boxen), the process hangs & I have to kill the (rxvt) terminal & start another one. I explicitly unmounted the offending HDD w/ 'umount -f', but still no joy. How do I get this fixed short of rebooting (if possible) ? TIA & have a good one. P.S.: [root@kabini1, /etc, 2:29:37pm] 351 % uname -a FreeBSD kabini1.local 9.3-RELEASE-p13 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p13 #0: Tue Apr 7 03:01:12 UTC 2015 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 [root@kabini1, /etc, 2:29:39pm] 352 % -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 21 20:48:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A969A6A21 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 20:48:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smarthost.sentex.ca", Issuer "smarthost.sentex.ca" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE5101A5B for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 20:48:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a] (saphire3.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t6LKmAXW036201 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:48:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) To: freebsd-questions From: Mike Tancsa Subject: net-snmp and RELENG_10 Organization: Sentex Communications Message-ID: <55AEB008.50605@sentex.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:48:08 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 20:48:11 -0000 Its been a while since I used net-snmp from the ports, but it seems out of the box with just a RO community, it complains a fair bit from what I remembered it did in the past. Anyone know if these errors are "normal" and to be expected from the port now ? couldn't map value 254 for ipAddressAddrType not enough space for value error setting index while loading ipAddressTable cache. couldn't map value 254 for ipAddressAddrType not enough space for value error setting index while loading ipAddressTable cache. couldn't map value 254 for ipAddressAddrType not enough space for value error setting index while loading ipAddressTable cache. couldn't map value 254 for ipAddressAddrType not enough space for value error setting index while loading ipAddressTable cache. These seem to be on tun interfaces, as there are 4 tun interfaces on the box. ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 21 22:17:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E077F9A7C0B for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 22:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B36B918AC for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 22:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-211-22.knology.net [216.186.211.22] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t6LMHfRG022116 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 17:17:42 -0500 Message-ID: <55AEC504.1080809@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 17:23:55 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: FreeBSD & Docker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 22:17:44 -0000 I noticed a reference to something called docker in "pkg rquery -a '%n-%v' > LIST.available.txt" output: [wam@kabini1, ~, 4:06:52pm] 309 % grep ocker /etc/LIST.available.txt bruteforceblocker-1.2.3_1 cmockery2-1.3.8 deforaos-locker-0.2.1_1 docker-1.5_8 gtk-knocker-0.6.6_5 knocker-0.7.1 p5-IPC-Locker-1.492_1 p5-Test-TinyMocker-0.05_1 [wam@kabini1, ~, 4:07:02pm] 310 % find /usr/ports/ -name docker [wam@kabini1, ~, 4:09:14pm] 311 % find /usr/ports/ -name \*docker\* /usr/ports/sysutils/docker-freebsd /usr/ports/sysutils/docker-freebsd/files/docker.in /usr/ports/x11/docker-tray [wam@kabini1, ~, 4:09:56pm] 312 % lf /usr/ports/sysutils/docker-freebsd Makefile distinfo files/ pkg-descr pkg-message [wam@kabini1, ~, 4:10:08pm] 313 % cat /usr/ports/sysutils/docker-freebsd/pkg-descr Docker is an open source project to pack, ship and run any application as a lightweight container. Docker containers are both hardware-agnostic and platform-agnostic. This means they can run anywhere, from your laptop to the largest EC2 compute instance and everything in between - and they don't require you to use a particular language, framework or packaging system. That makes them great building blocks for deploying and scaling web apps, databases, and backend services without depending on a particular stack or provider. WWW: https://github.com/kvasdopil/docker [wam@kabini1, ~, 4:10:16pm] 314 % I notice a port for the docker I was looking for, but (apparently) no associated pkg. I thought ports pretty much got compiled into pkg's automatically. Did I just catch things at just the wrong moment (i.e. port created, but not yet compiled into pkg) ? No biggie, but I (think I) like the 'sorta virtualization' that Docker provides & have been wanting to try it out. TIA & have a good one. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 21 22:27:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383909A7E58 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 22:27:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 011811D57 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 22:27:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-211-22.knology.net [216.186.211.22] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t6LMRmKJ026292 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 17:27:49 -0500 Message-ID: <55AEC764.8060405@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 17:34:03 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: NFS issue References: <55AE9C55.4060306@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <55AE9C55.4060306@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 22:27:51 -0000 On 07/21/15 14:29, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > I booted up an old machine yesterday (predecessor to this box, as it > happens) to recover some stuff (which it turned out I already had > :-/). I accessed its HDD using automount. I looked around, figured out > I already had everything I needed, su'ed to root & poweroff'ed, > *before* the automount on this box had a chance to unmount the HDD > from the other box. This got me an error message in my messages file, > but nothing else, except that whenever I do a 'df' since (which would > show the automounted HDD's from other boxen), the process hangs & I > have to kill the (rxvt) terminal & start another one. I explicitly > unmounted the offending HDD w/ 'umount -f', but still no joy. How do I > get this fixed short of rebooting (if possible) ? TIA & have a good one. > > P.S.: > [root@kabini1, /etc, 2:29:37pm] 351 % uname -a > FreeBSD kabini1.local 9.3-RELEASE-p13 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p13 #0: Tue > Apr 7 03:01:12 UTC 2015 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > [root@kabini1, /etc, 2:29:39pm] 352 % > > Followup: [root@kabini1, /etc, 5:32:23pm] 379 % ps -alx | grep df 0 17 0 0 -16 0 0 16 sdflush DL ?? 0:37.48 [softdepflush] 1110 1186 1174 0 20 0 162608 17420 select S v0 2:36.61 xfwm4 --display :0.0 --sm-client-id 26f798dfa-3f9e-11e4-ba85-d0509913e385 1110 36442 1 0 20 0 12092 1760 rpccon D+ 9- 0:00.18 df -Tk 0 46735 1669 0 20 0 16336 2024 piperd S+ 10 0:00.00 grep df 0 21036 1707 0 20 0 12092 1752 newnfs D+ 17 0:00.00 df -Tk 0 36722 1 0 20 0 12092 1752 newnfs D 17 0:00.00 df -Tk [root@kabini1, /etc, 5:32:30pm] 380 % killall -9 df [root@kabini1, /etc, 5:32:38pm] 381 % ps -alx | grep df 0 17 0 0 -16 0 0 16 sdflush DL ?? 0:37.48 [softdepflush] 1110 1186 1174 0 20 0 162608 17420 select S v0 2:36.62 xfwm4 --display :0.0 --sm-client-id 26f798dfa-3f9e-11e4-ba85-d0509913e385 1110 36442 1 0 20 0 12092 1760 connec D+ 9- 0:00.18 df -Tk 0 47421 1669 0 20 0 16336 2024 piperd S+ 10 0:00.00 grep df 0 21036 1707 0 20 0 12092 1752 newnfs D+ 17 0:00.00 df -Tk 0 36722 1 0 20 0 12092 1752 newnfs D 17 0:00.00 df -Tk [root@kabini1, /etc, 5:32:39pm] 382 % How do I kill these infernal df processes :-/ ? TIA & have a good one .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 22 05:01:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6A49A78E4 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 05:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 711A51247 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 05:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-211-22.knology.net [216.186.211.22] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t6M510vb008594 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 00:01:01 -0500 Message-ID: <55AF238C.2010205@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 00:07:15 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Docker References: <55AEC504.1080809@hiwaay.net> <20150722002244.GA88182@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20150722002244.GA88182@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 05:01:03 -0000 On 07/21/15 19:28, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 05:23:55PM -0453, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> I noticed a reference to something called docker in "pkg rquery -a >> '%n-%v' > LIST.available.txt" output: >> >> [wam@kabini1, ~, 4:06:52pm] 309 % grep ocker /etc/LIST.available.txt > I don't know anything about Docker. But... > > It's bad practice to put temporary files in "/etc". You'll end up forgetting > about it and then have to clean it all up sometime in the future. If you > put it in /tmp then you can pretty much forget about it. Good point on those LIST files, they are indeed temporary files for my use, but they are regenerated whenever I do a pkg upgrade (manually), so I don't think they are much of an issue. They are strictly for the convenience of not having to go online to recover that info, solely for my use, no daemons or utilities. Your point is still well taken. Thanks :-). -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 22 13:25:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C94D9A6B73 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 13:25:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D53921F9C for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 13:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHu1l-0003kl-8q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:25:41 +0200 Received: from vps.jonz.net ([216.17.42.59]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:25:41 +0200 Received: from SPAM_TRAP_gmane by vps.jonz.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:25:41 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jonesy Subject: Re: [ OT ] recommendations for a domain_name registrar Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 13:25:20 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <55ADC5CE.5050207@risebroadband.net> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: vps.jonz.net User-Agent: slrn/1.0.2 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 13:25:52 -0000 On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 04:08:46 +0000, spellberg_robert wrote: > > i should point_out that , a_while back , > some_one had told me about "namebargain.com" and that > they had been happy with them . > i went looking at them today and i discovered that they are part of > the same group that has network_solutions [ "web_dot_com" ] ; > this put me off of them , real fast > [ if my apprehension is mis_placed , please advise > ] . Are you referring to namecheap.com? If so, why the obfuscation? (Your post is almost too cryptic to read.) I use namecheap.com for a handfull (all) of my domains. T'was first recommened to me by a SysAdmin I greatly admire and trust. I am quite happy there. Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | Marvin | W3DHJ | linux 38.238N 104.547W | @ jonz.net | Jonesy | OS/2 * Killfiling google & XXXXbanter.com: jonz.net/ng.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 22 20:54:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500659A84A9 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 20:54:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044B81DB7 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 20:54:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (static-71-177-216-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.177.216.148]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.7/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t6MKsiGa031915 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 13:54:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) From: Doug Hardie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Freebsd-update question Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 13:54:43 -0700 To: FreeBSD - Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 20:54:51 -0000 I just updated several systems with freebsd-update that are running = FreeBSD 9.3. The list of updated files includes the kernel and a bunch = of kernel extensions. However, after the install completes, I do not = get a message that the system needs to be rebooted. Since its a new = kernel, a reboot should be required to make it active. Shouldn=E2=80=99t = I be told that? It seems like I used to get those messages. I rebooted = all of them just to be sure.= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 22 21:06:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01869A86B2 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 21:06:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x230.google.com (mail-ig0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B59C51146 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 21:06:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: by igvi1 with SMTP id i1so138715278igv.1 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 14:06:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Iu2Xdizx7xPuVbNsPkb0XrbgynuxWJLvuZxcFdMUCN8=; b=u4sFqeiTgPeqkGznqGAvy0EfrqKN84aSS+WR3FUV0ElmNnaFYA/mbwKvLSsqgbsogR KkqVnWy/oZElXXMO5S9zjOWsZ0VQHRLLggGNCSjIK9lPxn8BYb4bI26I5gGpTJN3rxX1 2GQqsy5hI9cZ6Zq/TokQOvmf/FX8n+c3q6c3KKQCFYYGl5R3gYaC/DHFhcfjHBmtG0mG yysRXe07LWq70AJ3NGNmCqNWEW0hSWnT4OtlHzd7c/HMN+MjTK3sKnlgFVd5bEamXOoZ 3fzrABkB86coyOANRQ2nraetpQZgQtLYJrVkOm+5GSfoM5y1E+vxiDmKZillMb159YdZ fHKg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.98.3 with SMTP id ee3mr9504635igb.10.1437599217111; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 14:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.74.130 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 14:06:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 14:06:57 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Freebsd-update question From: jungle Boogie To: Doug Hardie Cc: FreeBSD - Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 21:06:58 -0000 On 22 July 2015 at 13:54, Doug Hardie wrote: > I just updated several systems with freebsd-update that are running FreeB= SD 9.3. The list of updated files includes the kernel and a bunch of kerne= l extensions. However, after the install completes, I do not get a message= that the system needs to be rebooted. Since its a new kernel, a reboot sh= ould be required to make it active. Shouldn=E2=80=99t I be told that? It = seems like I used to get those messages. I rebooted all of them just to be= sure. I think I have only seen freebsd-update after I've installed a newer freebsd version. Good job on rebooting after a kernel update! btw, your email client doesn't wrap lines very well. All your text above is ONE line. --=20 ------- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboogie@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boogie@jit.si From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 23 01:11:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535FA9A4A95 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 01:11:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (mail.parts-unknown.org [IPv6:2001:470:67:119::4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B81B1C4F for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 01:11:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 80) id CF0A2592AB87; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 18:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.250.218.172]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 18:11:14 -0700 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 18:11:14 -0700 Message-ID: <20150722181114.Horde.CZ2ks0U4JAR-nKAr2SXroZz@mail.parts-unknown.org> From: David Benfell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: a couple of minor but annoying issues: mate-terminal and firefox User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_4O15qtJ83FkesV9PdqjmZhT"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 01:11:22 -0000 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_4O15qtJ83FkesV9PdqjmZhT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Google is not being my friend. This is a very recent install of=20=20 FreeBSD=2010.1, now on STABLE, so really: 10.2-BETA2 FreeBSD home-desktop.parts-unknown.org 10.2-BETA2 FreeBSD 10.2-BETA2=20=20 #0=20r285670: Sat Jul 18 11:16:52 PDT 2015=20=20=20=20=20=20 root@home-desktop:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC=20 amd64 I prefer the mate desktop environment. There are behaviors that I prefer on previous installations that for=20=20 some=20reason are different on this one. And I have no idea what to do=20= =20 to=20fix this. Worse, I don't feel like I'm doing a good job of asking=20= =20 my=20questions, but here goes: First, mate-terminal keeps coming up with a default encoding of ASCII.=20= =20 I=20want UTF-8. Desperately. The menu option is there and works, but the=20= =20 default=20is wrong. I don't ever want ASCII. I always want UTF-8. Having=20= =20 to=20remember to change this every single time is annoying. Second, control-K in Firefox is supposed to be a shortcut to the=20=20 search=20text field. This is working much less reliably than before.=20=20 Again,=20I haven't a clue--and can't find one--on how to make this=20=20 behavior=20more consistent. 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Desperately. The menu option is there and works, but the > default is wrong. I don't ever want ASCII. I always want UTF-8. Having > to remember to change this every single time is annoying. Set the environmental variables LC_ALL, maybe LANG, and MM_CHARSET to "en_US.UTF-8". You can do that via your ~/.cshrc or ~/.login_conf. > Second, control-K in Firefox is supposed to be a shortcut to the > search text field. This is working much less reliably than before. > Again, I haven't a clue--and can't find one--on how to make this > behavior more consistent. What happened to Ctrl+F? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 23 02:07:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37049A8314 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 02:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 920CC1058 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 02:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-24-166-126-146.neo.res.rr.com [24.166.126.146]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id d6ba981c; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 22:00:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 22a597ef; TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 22:00:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1437616894.14334.14.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: a couple of minor but annoying issues: mate-terminal and firefox From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: Polytropon , David Benfell Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 22:01:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20150723033718.3539c5be.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20150722181114.Horde.CZ2ks0U4JAR-nKAr2SXroZz@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150723033718.3539c5be.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="sha-512"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-3MIjfPyEMX4ZXuFw89zH" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 02:07:18 -0000 --=-3MIjfPyEMX4ZXuFw89zH Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2015-07-23 at 03:37 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 18:11:14 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > > First, mate-terminal keeps coming up with a default encoding of=20 > > ASCII. =20 > > I want UTF-8. Desperately. The menu option is there and works, but=20 > > the =20 > > default is wrong. I don't ever want ASCII. I always want UTF-8.=20 > > Having =20 > > to remember to change this every single time is annoying. >=20 > Set the environmental variables LC_ALL, maybe LANG, and MM_CHARSET > to "en_US.UTF-8". You can do that via your ~/.cshrc or ~/.login_conf. >=20 Concur, the terminal should just accept the one of these environment variables. In fact the gnome-terminal won't launch at all if it cannot determine the locale. It could be informative to know what the value of these variables are in a non-X11 terminal. >=20 >=20 > > Second, control-K in Firefox is supposed to be a shortcut to the =20 > > search text field. This is working much less reliably than before. =20 > > Again, I haven't a clue--and can't find one--on how to make this =20 > > behavior more consistent. >=20 > What happened to Ctrl+F? >=20 >=20 Ctrl+F is indeed find in a page. In firefox Ctrl+K places the focus/cursor in the Search box to the right of the large URL/Search bar. I can confirm Ctrl+K works as expected for Firefox 41.0a2 under Gnome+Linux. So it's probably not Firefox itself, perhaps the DE/WM is intercepting the Ctrl+K thinking it is a shortcut ment for the DE/WM? 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(50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.250.218.172]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 20:11:16 -0700 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 20:11:16 -0700 Message-ID: <20150722201116.Horde._Fra3QBcrvZHU_pB9keBlwC@mail.parts-unknown.org> From: David Benfell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a couple of minor but annoying issues: mate-terminal and firefox References: <20150722181114.Horde.CZ2ks0U4JAR-nKAr2SXroZz@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150723033718.3539c5be.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150723033718.3539c5be.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_-N5j78oYr4U9tiqJHLPmVtP"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 03:11:16 -0000 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_-N5j78oYr4U9tiqJHLPmVtP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Polytropon : > On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 18:11:14 -0700, David Benfell wrote: >> First, mate-terminal keeps coming up with a default encoding of ASCII. >> I want UTF-8. Desperately. The menu option is there and works, but the >> default is wrong. I don't ever want ASCII. I always want UTF-8. Having >> to remember to change this every single time is annoying. > > Set the environmental variables LC_ALL, maybe LANG, and MM_CHARSET > to "en_US.UTF-8". You can do that via your ~/.cshrc or ~/.login_conf. In my case, I think .zshrc (I settled on zsh over a decade ago). I set=20= =20 all=20of the above, restarted my X session, and that seems to have=20=20 worked.=20I had LANG set by way of /etc/login.conf, so I'm guessing that=20= =20 mate-terminal=20responds either to LC_ALL or MM_CHARSET. I hadn't seen=20= =20 MM_CHARSET=20before, but I might well have had LC_ALL set in the=20=20 previous=20installations. > >> Second, control-K in Firefox is supposed to be a shortcut to the >> search text field. This is working much less reliably than before. >> Again, I haven't a clue--and can't find one--on how to make this >> behavior more consistent. > > What happened to Ctrl+F? Sorry, it didn't even occur to me that what I was saying was=20=20 ambiguous.=20Ctrl+F is for find in page. I'm looking for the web search=20= =20 box. Thanks! --=20 David=20Benfell --=_-N5j78oYr4U9tiqJHLPmVtP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: PGP Digital Signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAABAgAGBQJVsFtUAAoJEBV64x4SNmArs54QALW11NyrSqz/Aqnf+mAhYbhQ 4YYEGTd/bMC//bFIWCY9xdt3xyp3D0dFleqHsyQo0qYkStWoqEBuTy8hEEFcdKvE ZGYhMLXc4ZaQVyYL/WLZxc7U5gyi8Z+R1Vya4s9Kp37KYkOL6PvC40xqecDKFODY ghcKtNoxCLZ+Ytw60Ys96xbxPFX31S+5t95b6e17wdSNLTEu3lrtUbCufJI0up8U 7zfOTB8KmbBUOFFpsK1d4/mxCc9DVgXXqazrYJG7+3uqPuuFbEAirVBftF2dArpZ /DR8aEyw/Cfs1GGsYFf3bkNMmQ0Ya3tbEzZ3C+qKke9gf+BdA18Jj6QVMlduZ9kg uX+dGrdy7N09MM2yp6YtzU8lTG/5rag1XPN/krL+cvmR8eHPWVNI34FZnx4bz8H+ mxdsU+eAnn2z/g23Fl8QyITv/XRUjHv2dw4aGoAHSsTyrWhcp4MtbdxGfyGeN0lk V5lToogiMhVsqHqVD51MG4Kyi5R8ZX2IUKx4MBx+cGZS1r1gMrTM6fi5Q34+eh/D a2A444LllSDIGtjhuIno85QqunKx0UERtHTiu0ZCAWxkYmqhiYthL1W3FVj+Cakx DbWeYElbfgbg6SM7oel7PfUqD3YGEOGLc7sttYFXvdCgIQwRaNCAR/5Z8TyVtVlH 5HesYInKpENOMFI/SFmd =AE40 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_-N5j78oYr4U9tiqJHLPmVtP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 23 03:14:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE5D9A8DCA for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 03:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (mail.parts-unknown.org [IPv6:2001:470:67:119::4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1A7211E9 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 03:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 80) id 810B8592AB87; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 20:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.250.218.172]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 20:14:24 -0700 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 20:14:24 -0700 Message-ID: <20150722201424.Horde.tSwESV8tPMqu-4RCOF84EzK@mail.parts-unknown.org> From: David Benfell To: "Michael B. Eichorn" Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a couple of minor but annoying issues: mate-terminal and firefox References: <20150722181114.Horde.CZ2ks0U4JAR-nKAr2SXroZz@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150723033718.3539c5be.freebsd@edvax.de> <1437616894.14334.14.camel@michaeleichorn.com> In-Reply-To: <1437616894.14334.14.camel@michaeleichorn.com> User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_ciNSR8Im7xMwRcwKn6sFdDz"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 03:14:25 -0000 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_ciNSR8Im7xMwRcwKn6sFdDz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting "Michael B. Eichorn" : >> > Ctrl+F is indeed find in a page. In firefox Ctrl+K places the > focus/cursor in the Search box to the right of the large URL/Search bar. > > I can confirm Ctrl+K works as expected for Firefox 41.0a2 under > Gnome+Linux. So it's probably not Firefox itself, perhaps the DE/WM is > intercepting the Ctrl+K thinking it is a shortcut ment for the DE/WM? Or > maybe there is something stealing focus from Firefox? This is when I wish I could articulate better what I'm sensing. I=20=20 think=20you're right--it does have that 'feel.' But what? And how would I find it? --=20 David=20Benfell --=_ciNSR8Im7xMwRcwKn6sFdDz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: PGP Digital Signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAABAgAGBQJVsFwQAAoJEBV64x4SNmArGd4P/01sKmRugEJUIBwLZbma9oEv Ax7qbbG+8v0Gs1BWTfg1y9YYcMMf7ElEkKZkfBqBRpWep5iimYQYlyluzf9S46vH ECJmnWtc3w5b9/v16Fv1Rkag23HhvrmQkf8LDLAXfIiSkuOeCkJ/xXgK1u48f0+s +CaGPC7o3b90GqPBBNYg7km86Mk5hqhpbHH7tdP0Y6RrLLW9w2D8yyRdzrVLlbhh d85pidpKVv5DbLb/bpv/U9OVotYjIVeH/6aQ3/sCX5nCv4gM922H19fUPRRlzCGf G12KqTqSL1TzS5ua4ipQnUPzNgk2v/CpNg2Q3Ep6Y8cgazYzPo4ohUXhgnWTYnlW /YhMLp7YcVH6xu0jeo8AUi3TXQapH9IdfuGFCw4JGtwZ2oXpJvT5gCHqFrLSB9Qy lDtQMAsl4j9MVIQUunzHfIyqWvvx1eS/1u22hAQ18yc6nyC571y59kiP5LBr9ucd YNRcsbdlJdiZ7j0WNoF0bReHrCwEe+YSOpzHzkzcJfCcsjOGK3CUUimdMyV8Z6w5 SyNhAu4i0nNfsk7LVouWWAo3iUxENUvEZiJbiKLuJBQNxs8m/zBm4uyBOjp+Et36 yV/cf0bM7Q30rumOpbarMYEtLr/09kAoDaRCvbnjVpDAsZ7j7w9UyXLYXia+cwB0 RBTKeLuJSajuLKpxMhph =QcxN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_ciNSR8Im7xMwRcwKn6sFdDz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 23 10:14:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404089A877D for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:14:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99FDE19C4 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:14:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t6NAELxo033770 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:14:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55B0BE81.70208@bananmonarki.se> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:14:25 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Ulpt problems. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:14:33 -0000 Hello list. How do I disable ulpt? It's not in the generic kernel so can't disable it there. In /boot/loader.conf I have ulpt_load="NO" But that does not help it's still loaded. kldunload ulpt don't help either it keeps coming back. I need to disable it so I can use hplip. From hplip pkg-message; "HPLIP expects printers to be attached as a ugen(4) devices. This means that you must NOT have "device ulpt" in your kernel and ulpt must NOT be loaded as a kernel module" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 23 10:50:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170EE9A8D7B for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:50:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 865A015CD for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:50:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t6NAoNMK034624 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:50:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55B0C6F3.6050108@bananmonarki.se> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:50:27 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ulpt problems. References: <55B0BE81.70208@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <55B0BE81.70208@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:50:27 -0000 It's a FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p10 #0box. On 2015-07-23 12:14, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Hello list. > > How do I disable ulpt? It's not in the generic kernel so can't disable > it there. > > In /boot/loader.conf I have ulpt_load="NO" But that does not help it's > still loaded. > > kldunload ulpt don't help either it keeps coming back. > > I need to disable it so I can use hplip. > > From hplip pkg-message; > > "HPLIP expects printers to be attached as a ugen(4) devices. This > means that you must NOT have "device ulpt" in your kernel and ulpt > must NOT be loaded as a kernel module" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 23 12:16:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65DB9A87F7 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:16:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D3D41F4F for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:16:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-114.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.114]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E3C83CD91; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 14:15:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t6NCFvEX001927; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 14:15:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 14:15:57 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David Benfell Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a couple of minor but annoying issues: mate-terminal and firefox Message-Id: <20150723141557.d943b953.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150722201116.Horde._Fra3QBcrvZHU_pB9keBlwC@mail.parts-unknown.org> References: <20150722181114.Horde.CZ2ks0U4JAR-nKAr2SXroZz@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150723033718.3539c5be.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150722201116.Horde._Fra3QBcrvZHU_pB9keBlwC@mail.parts-unknown.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:16:02 -0000 On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 20:11:16 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > Quoting Polytropon : > > > On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 18:11:14 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > >> First, mate-terminal keeps coming up with a default encoding of ASCII. > >> I want UTF-8. Desperately. The menu option is there and works, but the > >> default is wrong. I don't ever want ASCII. I always want UTF-8. Having > >> to remember to change this every single time is annoying. > > > > Set the environmental variables LC_ALL, maybe LANG, and MM_CHARSET > > to "en_US.UTF-8". You can do that via your ~/.cshrc or ~/.login_conf. > > In my case, I think .zshrc (I settled on zsh over a decade ago). If zsh is your login shell (and all X programs are somewhat "descendants" of that shell), this will work. My login shell is the C shell, and I have set LC_* globally for all accounts. Also note that there's a certain "precedence" of the LC_* "fine grained" variables and LANG. > I set > all of the above, restarted my X session, and that seems to have > worked. I had LANG set by way of /etc/login.conf, so I'm guessing that > mate-terminal responds either to LC_ALL or MM_CHARSET. If I remember correctly, LANG will be ignored if LC_ALL is set. Or was it the other way round? I remember that setting LC_ALL allowed UTF-8 for regular UTF-8-capable programs, but I think inside Gnome (and Gnome-derived Mate) MM_CHARSET is important. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 23 12:20:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283A49A889B for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:20:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E22E91080 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:20:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-114.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.114]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 320C03CF0E; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 14:20:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t6NCKCvc001933; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 14:20:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 14:20:12 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David Benfell Cc: "Michael B. Eichorn" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a couple of minor but annoying issues: mate-terminal and firefox Message-Id: <20150723142012.1dba793e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150722201424.Horde.tSwESV8tPMqu-4RCOF84EzK@mail.parts-unknown.org> References: <20150722181114.Horde.CZ2ks0U4JAR-nKAr2SXroZz@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150723033718.3539c5be.freebsd@edvax.de> <1437616894.14334.14.camel@michaeleichorn.com> <20150722201424.Horde.tSwESV8tPMqu-4RCOF84EzK@mail.parts-unknown.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:20:15 -0000 On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 20:14:24 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > Quoting "Michael B. Eichorn" : > >> > > Ctrl+F is indeed find in a page. In firefox Ctrl+K places the > > focus/cursor in the Search box to the right of the large URL/Search bar. > > > > I can confirm Ctrl+K works as expected for Firefox 41.0a2 under > > Gnome+Linux. So it's probably not Firefox itself, perhaps the DE/WM is > > intercepting the Ctrl+K thinking it is a shortcut ment for the DE/WM? Or > > maybe there is something stealing focus from Firefox? > > This is when I wish I could articulate better what I'm sensing. I > think you're right--it does have that 'feel.' That would be a somehow "stupid" (although possible and valid!) assumption. Why should the desktop environment capture something as simple as Ctrl+K? I could imagine that with function keys, and some Alt+Something or Ctrl+Alt+Something combinations, but humble Ctrl+K? Hmmm... > But what? And how would I find it? Modify ~/.xinitrc (or ~/.xsession) which determines that you're starting a Mate session. Have "exec xterm" your last entry in that file. Then after you log in, only an X terminal (without any window manager) will be displayed. Run "firefox" from that terminal and try Ctrl+K. Now _nothing_ could possibly intercept that key combination. You could also check the Mate keyboard configuration if Ctrl+K is associated to some window management function or program launch (application shortkey). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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TmPqdWTP0MPxINJdp_hI3AHHcmE Message-ID: Subject: freebsd-update-server findstamps() problem From: Rick Miller To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 15:40:52 -0000 Hi all, Utilizing Colin Percival's freebsd-update-server[1] and instructions[2], I'm building update server content for a customized FreeBSD distribution, which appears to work, but exhibits unexpected behavior. Can someone review and provide information that may help me track this down? The behavior manifests itself in the findstamps() function during the while() loop that executes the findstamps binary (reference code below). The input, as specified in stampedfiles.new, resulting in the behavior is: world|doc|/usr/share/doc/psd/13.rcs/paper.ascii.gz The files as they exist on the disk are as follows: $ ls -ld world0/R/trees/world/doc/usr/share/doc/psd/13.rcs/paper.ascii.gz world1/R/trees/world/doc/usr/share/doc/psd/13.rcs/paper.ascii.gz -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 22287 Jul 21 18:28 world0/R/trees/world/doc/usr/share/doc/psd/13.rcs/paper.ascii.gz -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 22290 Aug 24 2016 world1/R/trees/world/doc/usr/share/doc/psd/13.rcs/paper.ascii.gz The files are, obviously, binary gzip compressed files of differing sizes. The output of the operation performed on these files (findstamps piped to lam()) is evident within stampvalues.new and illustrated below where the file begins with ASCII, but where the bottom portion of the file contains garbled characters, as if a binary were cat'd to STDOUT. It is subsequently followed by the error "findstamps: Files have different lengths!" (note, the output is truncated to remove much of the binary output). This suggests differences in buildworld and logs do exist, but admittedly, the low-level details of generating releases is unfamiliar to me so I'm unsure exactly how to interpret the log files. =3D=3D=3D Begin stampvalues.new =3D=3D=3D scanner.po/ 1437502232 0 0 100644 54784 ` reader.po/ 1437502231 0 0 100644 5392 ` api.po/ 1437502230 0 0 100644 38640 ` # date: Tue Jul 21 18:29:06 2015 ?"? r 3 I? |? ?$??w s=3D??????????x???O???? ${WORKDIR}/stamplocations.new \ 2> ${WORKDIR}/stampvalues.new =3D=3D=3D End findstamps() code snippet =3D=3D=3D [1] https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/user/cperciva/freebsd-update-build/ [2] https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-update-server/= index.html --=20 Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 23 17:59:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F93D9A9E60 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ggroth@gregs-garage.com) Received: from mail.gregs-garage.com (99-158-164-253.uvs.cicril.sbcglobal.net [99.158.164.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 238AD1958 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:59:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ggroth@gregs-garage.com) Received: from mail.gregs-garage.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gregs-garage.com (8.15.2/8.15.1) with ESMTP id t6NHxFli023692 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:59:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ggroth@gregs-garage.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail.gregs-garage.com (8.15.2/8.15.1/Submit) id t6NHxFtj023691; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:59:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ggroth@gregs-garage.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.gregs-garage.com: www set sender to ggroth@gregs-garage.com using -f To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kerberos X-PHP-Originating-Script: 0:rcube.php MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:59:15 -0500 From: Greg Groth In-Reply-To: <206c1ceb58b14e4ce86fb2a27be3907c@mail.gregs-garage.com> References: <75d664eeb361264e9b4560a89b1a32bf@mail.gregs-garage.com> <1383995814.37100404.1437030764957.JavaMail.zimbra@logitravel.com> <4582000dcfad2dc26ca4076d2024f23f@mail.gregs-garage.com> <1705342318.38348913.1437127498114.JavaMail.zimbra@logitravel.com> <206c1ceb58b14e4ce86fb2a27be3907c@mail.gregs-garage.com> Message-ID: <8377d493cb4b4aafab251589c7ac20bb@mail.gregs-garage.com> X-Sender: ggroth@gregs-garage.com User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.2 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.gregs-garage.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:59:25 -0000 On 2015-07-21 08:42, Greg Groth wrote: > On 2015-07-17 05:04, Raimund Sacherer wrote: >> Hello Greg, >> >> on a first glance I can't see anything really out of order, if it >> helps, I use(d) this pages to setup kerberos and apache auth: >> http://www.grolmsnet.de/kerbtut/ >> http://blog.scottlowe.org/2006/08/10/kerberos-based-sso-with-apache/ >> >> The account you create for the service principal has to be a user >> account, it does not work with a machine account. >> >> If you authenticate without the key tab, just a user from the ad >> (create a user and test a kinit user@EXAMPLE.COM, later klist). Check >> if a simple user authentication works in the first place. >> >> Hope that this will help you in any way, >> >> Best >> Ray > > Many thanks for replying. > > I have to be doing something wrong with the ktpass command on the DC, > but for the life of me, I'm not sure what the issue is. > > I created a user named aduser, and can obtain a ticket by using kinit > aduser@EXAMPLE.COM from the BSD server, but using kinit -k aduser or > kinit -t /etc/krb5.keytab aduser always returns "kinit: > krb5_get_init_creds: Already tried ENC-TS-info, looping" > > This is what I've been trying on the DC to create a keytab file: > > ktpass /princ HTTP/atbsd.example.com@EXAMPLE.COM /mapuser > aduser@EXAMPLE.COM /pass P@$$word /crypto RC4-HMAC-NT /ptype > RB5_NT_PRINCIPAL /out C:\temp\krb5.keytab > > Once I run the command on the DC, the userPrincipalName for aduser > gets replaced with "HTTP/atbsd.example.com". Does the > servicePrincipalName need to be set to the same as well? I've tried > it with the UPN sert, the SPN set, and both the UPN & SPN set to > "HTTP/atbsd.example.com", but it doesn't seem to make a difference. > > When I run ktutil list --keys on the BSD box, I get: > Vno Type Principal > Key Aliases > 32 arcfour-hmac-md5 HTTP/atbsd.example.com@EXAMPLE.COM > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX > > I thought I read somewhere that the DC is looking for a match on the > UPN, which appears to be identical. The only other troubleshooting > I've been able to do is to use a packet sniffer, and it appears that > the DC is waiting for a password which is never supplied? > > I have not installed the krb5 port, and have been using whatever > version is installed in the base distro (heimdal?). I noted on the > TechNet page at MS that ktpass is based on the MIT version of > Kerberos. Do I need the krb5 port in place of whatever version is > included in the base distro to get this to work? > > Best regards, > > Greg Groth Making progress. Installed the MIT Kerberos port, which has better error reporting back to stdout (IMHO) that helped me track down the issue. Apparently running "kinit -k" defaults the service in the principal name of the request to "host". I had created my keytab for a service of "HTTP", which was why "kinit -k" was failing, where "kinit -k HTTP/atbsd.example.com" worked like a charm. I then went back and recreated the keytab on the windows box using "/princ host/atbsd.example.com@EXAMPLE.COM" the resultant keytab, once installed, would work with just "kinit -k". I'm sure these differentiations are noted in the documentation that has been provided, but somewhere I must have assumed that kinit was reading the service of the principal name in the keytab file, and creating a request based on the values provided. Many thanks again to all who gave their assistance. Best regards, Greg Groth From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 23 23:02:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0259A95EA for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 23:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D46511EAB for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 23:02:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-114.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.114]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F0662766E; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 01:02:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t6NN2eVI002980; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 01:02:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 01:02:40 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Bernt Hansson Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Ulpt problems. Message-Id: <20150724010240.ef900b16.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <55B0BE81.70208@bananmonarki.se> References: <55B0BE81.70208@bananmonarki.se> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 23:02:51 -0000 On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:14:25 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > How do I disable ulpt? It's not in the generic kernel so can't disable > it there. It's listed in /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES. Have you tried to add "nodevice ulpt" to your (custom) kernel? I got hplip running on 10.0 (i386) with GENERIC, but sadly I cannot remember how... :-( -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 24 01:08:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218A19A9F01 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 01:08:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6724@bellsouth.net) Received: from nm4-vm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm4-vm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.116]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9FF71ED6 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 01:08:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6724@bellsouth.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s2048; t=1437699897; bh=TNwvEp/2wgMr9jEMywvg0Qwak0VcVLuAfxl3O3y9kps=; h=Date:From:To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=o/Ytxlri4lPAf8LP4lLbUi90ajdvJUOgTF16sdQ6OwfUhTfjaNfs8PeYOc/Rme4zRpeZzY7CNLKGS156uVUN64hOtA2dfh+5Dxst8BaW1KtowxK7ZAO1RT+Fm5ueIFx1/yuTRSylVclMNj5itCy5fifILse5ObIGQnsyz1OrE0LEpCIb502+Ix7VO3ffwvrjS4XZJ6cktMaWBe3wDca/dI/KuXOQ54B3ApQ5Kwf++oTGPb9/mnfrcVzQLMdEynYIIy0PN7s0Zouy47JqOclSapQqwytM1TC5UXIkgDriEVeyUgpIHLgeE83upOTjH2ag5SzZ0cJxr4xVXqVq1bYR2w== Received: from [66.196.81.163] by nm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jul 2015 01:04:57 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.96] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jul 2015 01:04:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jul 2015 01:04:57 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 884706.24465.bm@smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Message-ID: <884706.24465.bm@smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 86XS6N8VM1kig6.YNdxmE9swoKpjur0Wm4dr92s1vty0caj xVmBG1xUNqHlT3iSXzjybjwzLurDkvQ5lfaXVR219R_kOJLyHMDq4ibFgArC 9XxpJBfWlWj5DcBwmSBvjnXyAopHoUsTJxaGJmIotEKUyd.yx.aNv2a4pxQt dgyTaJ0RNIR9QvN7WZND6Yvunafy0beeHRqHuZlU66NESeTZVQkYTUSSWLrA ygw22TMnLpyl14b3y6GTrCG2bhBiPNsvawCIZEUrMEegH1Zn2pqC7gteYn8Z fT8TtyE9WTwauvYzBmilVcRIdcMKjxmFyhekvFOsKVBuXp4T1WwvGQR3QRBs bi8tdGS1mtgU0UGjxYXMwRmr_MokMDAnOJ2m0GnBMj6urq6eb5GPsNeVEyVa 40OJOQEdaEk8N.FtXGRyMBTUWkseXtACO0E5OQmpIchQrHCjsNeMxwMsB6tq B4C3rdqLqfXggJyeAdi8UifP.8KgaJPTZaMxKhIvkI8R803NzdenVqTkKnLT T9bEbgEzEoGQVC5eJrEmwZDLFH0zIocnGCMx0zQCdxnu6iYPjlU.OOeeY_MM - X-Yahoo-SMTP: Kz_aW1.swBBYof3zAD7.RWzXz9ZAQVDMml1VADsbgPT4Kq79LC0- Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 01:04:27 +0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <55B0BE81.70208@bananmonarki.se> Subject: Re: Ulpt problems. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 01:08:27 -0000 from Bernt Hansson: > How do I disable ulpt? It's not in the generic kernel so can't disable it > there. > In /boot/loader.conf I have ulpt_load="NO" But that does not help it's still loaded. > kldunload ulpt don't help either it keeps coming back. > I need to disable it so I can use hplip. > From hplip pkg-message; > "HPLIP expects printers to be attached as a ugen(4) devices. This > means that you must NOT have "device ulpt" in your kernel and ulpt > must NOT be loaded as a kernel module" I remember this from the recent past but don't see this message now, in either the FreeBSD ports version or NetBSD pkgsrc version. For FreeBSD, I made a directory /boot/modules-toxic and moved the ulpt stuff there. FreeBSD still couldn't find the printer. Neither could NetBSD with ulpt commented out in kernel config. FreeBSD and NetBSD printing setup couldn't find the printer even when I gave the USB address. Now I intend to try again, using ulpt, for both FreeBSD and NetBSD. I finally got the printer to print, early June 13, 2015, from NetBSD using Ethernet connection, and a newer .ppd file not yet in pkgsrc. NetBSD couldn't find the printer normally but saw it when I gave the IP address. I think that might work with FreeBSD too, but haven't tested it yet. My printer is HP LaserJet Professional M1212nf MFP. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 24 02:28:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EBC9A8AB8 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 02:28:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CA331DAB for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 02:28:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t6O2SXxZ057451; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 04:28:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55B1A2D3.9040707@bananmonarki.se> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 04:28:35 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Mueller , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ulpt problems. References: <55B0BE81.70208@bananmonarki.se> <884706.24465.bm@smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <884706.24465.bm@smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 02:28:41 -0000 On 2015-07-24 03:04, Thomas Mueller wrote: > from Bernt Hansson: > >> How do I disable ulpt? It's not in the generic kernel so can't disable it >> there. >> In /boot/loader.conf I have ulpt_load="NO" But that does not help it's still > loaded. > >> kldunload ulpt don't help either it keeps coming back. >> I need to disable it so I can use hplip. >> From hplip pkg-message; >> "HPLIP expects printers to be attached as a ugen(4) devices. This >> means that you must NOT have "device ulpt" in your kernel and ulpt >> must NOT be loaded as a kernel module" > I remember this from the recent past but don't see this message now, in either the FreeBSD ports version or NetBSD pkgsrc version. > > For FreeBSD, I made a directory /boot/modules-toxic and moved the ulpt stuff there. > > FreeBSD still couldn't find the printer. Neither could NetBSD with ulpt commented out in kernel config. > > FreeBSD and NetBSD printing setup couldn't find the printer even when I gave the USB address. > > Now I intend to try again, using ulpt, for both FreeBSD and NetBSD. > > I finally got the printer to print, early June 13, 2015, from NetBSD using Ethernet connection, and a newer .ppd file not yet in pkgsrc. > > NetBSD couldn't find the printer normally but saw it when I gave the IP address. > > I think that might work with FreeBSD too, but haven't tested it yet. > > My printer is HP LaserJet Professional M1212nf MFP. > > Tom It seems that one needs ulpt, otherwise the printer isn't found. So I added to /boot/loader.conf ulpt_load="YES" then the printer is found by cups and hplip. But I do not want to use cups so I deinstalled it. Cups can't print a testpage so I resorted to lpd. Which can't print anything, so back to cups that too can't print anything. So I'm stuck. Printer is HP laserjet P2055d From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 24 03:01:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AE99A9159 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 03:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (mail.parts-unknown.org [IPv6:2001:470:67:119::4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A9F41CFC for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 03:01:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 80) id 29FD5592AB87; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 20:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (50-250-218-172-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.250.218.172]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 20:01:05 -0700 Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 20:01:05 -0700 Message-ID: <20150723200105.Horde.mFbPIFBnEpES9yqLMgwBx0J@mail.parts-unknown.org> From: David Benfell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a couple of minor but annoying issues: mate-terminal and firefox References: <20150722181114.Horde.CZ2ks0U4JAR-nKAr2SXroZz@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150723033718.3539c5be.freebsd@edvax.de> <1437616894.14334.14.camel@michaeleichorn.com> <20150722201424.Horde.tSwESV8tPMqu-4RCOF84EzK@mail.parts-unknown.org> <20150723142012.1dba793e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150723142012.1dba793e.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_HkdLqMMsbKnOsKfnAma_9ej"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 03:01:11 -0000 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_HkdLqMMsbKnOsKfnAma_9ej Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Polytropon : > > >> But what? And how would I find it? > > Modify ~/.xinitrc (or ~/.xsession) which determines that you're > starting a Mate session. Have "exec xterm" your last entry in > that file. Then after you log in, only an X terminal (without > any window manager) will be displayed. Run "firefox" from that > terminal and try Ctrl+K. Now _nothing_ could possibly intercept > that key combination. But it sure seems like something does. The specific combination, which=20= =20 has=20always worked for me in the past, is control-T to open a new tab,=20= =20 control-K=20to get to the web search field. This failure appears even=20=20 with=20firefox run as indicated above. If, after opening the tab, I take care to click on the window,=20=20 control-K=20works again. Thanks! --=20 David=20Benfell --=_HkdLqMMsbKnOsKfnAma_9ej Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: PGP Digital Signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAABAgAGBQJVsapxAAoJEBV64x4SNmArl0QQAImkQ85Vochvw+SeyGjvmTi1 RsVGFFnWpCko5EIzcr6gTGJTg7v8r/8VZtD5lCUOZivDauOAe/xwOcuRCjyh+uXq uDSsqXWofMemlJJSI3hHGqeeorK1D7OSQ7fOgaZVy1lNrQwyKQ4UDnj1LdLAkiWg kBNaeA5KgxpU1/Ute3EmE5N8sHZB1giMeQdMWwXvljpmyRkk5rsAF9P0PduETCni esHNZQQIChyuPkUNh8Oe2Nx7WEUgM8yj8fEzHCwLK8iMyVs60/m0xEq5hSyI8fRj 3qoFKmiHeGDh6ZjuYWNnVLPS4DO5z1G9LZZVQk8TY+eSQabdw9nAHgtgDyMtxXnH 61LOopvrjyZASjACkyqTBJM7WYDeI/HN+FBsK6Xun75n5HGhfyRN9SBSPUMmpexd vmzylAHTarQXFrfijrlkzRXHhzyK1ngi94lpcyFCma92b4nR0ZTejaYSrQbDAbFj nP6X2wQEZedu5Ee1t5a0LmIUwCnNzuM/eu/tKCVZIt/OFfUXuCtohLfj3Bug+l/Y GtqKUqOxACNhTHH+S+jXVck275r9TcmqMpy0LMmtHvhDOofiwWJao7g+b4Lg3XYT qbx7kaexOLEy7mPb+VQ8FFaFaKDIoraP8QnO1S/PjX/e0HqII77EBe8+Vm2/y56S T6EUaUtlavNeeFE+y7J4 =nzF1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_HkdLqMMsbKnOsKfnAma_9ej-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 24 03:37:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9169A96A9 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 03:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71E7A2D1E for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 03:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t6O3bOYW064184 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 23 Jul 2015 21:37:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t6O3bOQg064181; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 21:37:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 21:37:24 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Bernt Hansson cc: Thomas Mueller , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ulpt problems. In-Reply-To: <55B1A2D3.9040707@bananmonarki.se> Message-ID: References: <55B0BE81.70208@bananmonarki.se> <884706.24465.bm@smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <55B1A2D3.9040707@bananmonarki.se> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 23 Jul 2015 21:37:24 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 03:37:32 -0000 On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, Bernt Hansson wrote: > It seems that one needs ulpt, otherwise the printer isn't found. > So I added to /boot/loader.conf ulpt_load="YES" then the printer is found by > cups and hplip. > > But I do not want to use cups so I deinstalled it. Cups can't print a > testpage so I resorted to lpd. > Which can't print anything, so back to cups that too can't print anything. So > I'm stuck. The ulpt module is loaded by /etc/devd/usb.conf. The file says "please do not edit", and I don't know how those modules are disabled. > Printer is HP laserjet P2055d That printer supports PostScript directly, so following the LPD setup in the Handbook is the easiest course. Deinstall CUPS first, because it has not-quite-compatible commands with the same names as the real ones. If the printer has a network interface, that is the preferred connection. But USB will work, too. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 24 09:17:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BFE9A9B9A for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 09:17:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amitabhkant@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x234.google.com (mail-oi0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4133719F1 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 09:17:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amitabhkant@gmail.com) Received: by oige126 with SMTP id e126so14294154oig.0 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 02:17:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Y/gBmiklcmrMvX2qmRaLycjbgQXL+U4MUmuWz+mhff8=; b=jsCOkD2KBjAY2azJDe27/DZg72ffCRwSEd8IJ/Quvl3uSfnyW2t70aDODlhuPMbPL/ otbaduNLztotE8T7zYgXe8vu5SppnITkd0/blhoplm5wCC0h60A3+oNiFt+PQSvB/wcA 94ztwaPIGUP1444Pk57QKGgW5Y8bxlw48+7Td+7b+HNgVnnvCmAgvbX0tVofanNfVbPu uXkKTHhcmu7sVnQMpgCmWUs8Jhy1UUK8aHRH3ZIO3gnkWQA/1WoOOLKr7cnzONAwBLFg 5+utRL8w6ZWk6ZrT2bN/7ONwDfAWiRLl63tNe4By6EP33k8yqdKuMcYa4E12QvVZ3k7j 2sxQ== X-Received: by 10.60.67.130 with SMTP id n2mr13749249oet.17.1437729423438; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 02:17:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.76.37.38 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 02:16:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Amitabh Kant Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:46:44 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Installing postgresql94-server port with PREFIX stops at error from gettext-runtime To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 09:17:04 -0000 Hi I am trying to install postgresql94-server port with the PREFIX=/opt option, for upgrading the current db version from 9.2 to 9.4 using pg_upgrade [1] . The OS is FreeBSD 9.3, ports tree updated to current as of today. This is a completely new install on a virtual box instance. The installation stops with error: ===> Staging for gettext-runtime-0.19.4 ===> gettext-runtime-0.19.4 depends on executable: indexinfo - not found ===> License BSD2CLAUSE accepted by the user ===> indexinfo-0.2.3 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found ===> Fetching all distfiles required by indexinfo-0.2.3 for building ===> Extracting for indexinfo-0.2.3 => SHA256 Checksum OK for bapt-indexinfo-0.2.3_GH0.tar.gz. ===> Patching for indexinfo-0.2.3 ===> Configuring for indexinfo-0.2.3 ===> Building for indexinfo-0.2.3 cc -O2 -pipe -fstack-protector -fno-strict-aliasing -DPACKAGE_NAME=\"indexinfo\" -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\"0.2.3\" -c indexinfo.c cc indexinfo.o -fstack-protector -o indexinfo ===> Staging for indexinfo-0.2.3 ===> Generating temporary packing list install -s -m 755 indexinfo /usr/ports/print/indexinfo/work/stage/opt/bin ====> Compressing man pages (compress-man) ===> Installing for indexinfo-0.2.3 ===> Checking if indexinfo already installed ===> Registering installation for indexinfo-0.2.3 as automatic Installing indexinfo-0.2.3... ===> gettext-runtime-0.19.4 depends on executable: indexinfo - not found *** [run-depends] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gettext-runtime. *** [lib-depends] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gettext-tools. *** [install] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gettext-tools. *** [build-depends] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gmake. *** [install] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gmake. *** [build-depends] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/postgresql94-server. *** [stage] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/postgresql94-server. Listing out /opt/bin : root@package0210:/usr/ports/databases/postgresql94-server # ls -lh /opt/bin total 68 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 25k Jul 24 14:36 iconv -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8.7k Jul 24 14:36 indexinfo -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 25k Jul 24 14:36 xmlwf Package installed till this point: root@package0210:/usr/ports/databases/postgresql94-server # pkg info expat-2.1.0_2 XML 1.0 parser written in C indexinfo-0.2.3 Utility to regenerate the GNU info page index libiconv-1.14_8 Character set conversion library pkg-1.4.12 Package manager With regards Amitabh [1] http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CAAW2xfdR3iJpLV9Ohm7FngsPQH0Jbqm=kEfWfM3H0nibVxj7vA@mail.gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 24 10:48:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D42B9A9551 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 10:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4B8B1DD9 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 10:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t6OAmNTx007388; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 12:48:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55B217F6.1000603@bananmonarki.se> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 12:48:22 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block CC: Thomas Mueller , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ulpt problems. References: <55B0BE81.70208@bananmonarki.se> <884706.24465.bm@smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <55B1A2D3.9040707@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 10:48:40 -0000 On 2015-07-24 05:37, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, Bernt Hansson wrote: > >> It seems that one needs ulpt, otherwise the printer isn't found. >> So I added to /boot/loader.conf ulpt_load="YES" then the printer is >> found by cups and hplip. >> >> But I do not want to use cups so I deinstalled it. Cups can't print a >> testpage so I resorted to lpd. >> Which can't print anything, so back to cups that too can't print >> anything. So I'm stuck. > > The ulpt module is loaded by /etc/devd/usb.conf. The file says > "please do not edit", and I don't know how those modules are disabled. > >> Printer is HP laserjet P2055d > > That printer supports PostScript directly, so following the LPD setup > in the Handbook is the easiest course. Deinstall CUPS first, because > it has not-quite-compatible commands with the same names as the real > ones. > > If the printer has a network interface, that is the preferred > connection. But USB will work, too. > > Now that it finds the printer it's not printing anything with cups or lpd. I'm using apsfilter and lpd. Hplip is deinstalled so is cups. But no cigar. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 24 20:04:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C9D9AA50A for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 20:04:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x235.google.com (mail-wi0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5389B1C89 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 20:04:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: by wicgb10 with SMTP id gb10so42465237wic.1 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:04:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-type; bh=xq7tBWDZDbBDBSz9OEs4GLtUCZarFI+IqSpySs0EMvo=; b=JHHlvfEbynJrRdadA4pX6pvtR3LeECUI2XKFh+QuZsVyi3e9Y+eoGQgV8s+tSFf0jF 4c7h40QaLUlmxVO0L/32xuWX/65ksffOZdCcfpszvJ187gdtTk7pe9+M3woy7tHUsELO 8jiwK4Ywbld+2t4F8UpfFXfmgX+ubSkBZkPE6gz/FcU8I6zuL84WUO4ygDPPaDnefpYG 3fmlZwKbXMiQtr3RvRpplW6sKi9wZepydQRO76OE7senmPUcBYcs4MdfAG/147rClJDd r5ZLXlqJt7uDbnZDN7GtzmuqOwziHv5nIDogfAjxK81a0BRQzImhFl4xWAPx9HUGQGYl EFyA== X-Received: by 10.194.121.100 with SMTP id lj4mr30044766wjb.104.1437768273096; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x220.optiplex-networks.com (optiplexnetworks.plus.com. [212.159.80.17]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id dz4sm5074476wib.17.2015.07.24.13.04.31 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:04:32 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions From: Kaya Saman Subject: NFS Server keeps timing out on a client? Message-ID: <55B29A4F.4040506@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 21:04:31 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 20:04:35 -0000 Hi, this is a really difficult one to diagnose :-( The situation is this: I have a server which I'm trying to serve up a home directory for. So when a user logs in they will be taken to /mnt/home/ NFS mount. The home directory is a zfs filesystem stored on a ZPOOL. The server runs FreeBSD 10.1 64bit and is powered by a quad core Intel Xeon with 8GB RAM and is connected to the network using a 4GbE lagg trunk. The client side is Arch Linux, 64 bit connected via gigabit link. They are on different vlans, and the network uses Jumbo MTU's however, I have also tested with regular mtu size of 1500 and same thing seems to be happening. As the firewall/router also runs *BSD I tried to see what was happening using: tcpdump -eni (vlan) host During the timeout periods I keep seeing this message: 2042: truncated-ip - 4 bytes missing!192.168.20.30.981 > 192.168.1.80.2049: xid 0x3b14188c (NFSv3) 1976 write [|nfs] (DF)2042: truncated-ip - 4 bytes missing!192.168.20.30.981 > 192.168.1.80.2049: xid 0x3b14188c (NFSv3) 1976 write [|nfs] (DF) 2042: truncated-ip - 4 bytes missing!.981 > .2049: xid 0x3b14188c (NFSv3) 1976 write [|nfs] (DF) Unfortunately setting the "debug" flag in mountd on FreeBSD doesn't show any thing other then "mount ok". On the client side I have put NFS into debug mode and am seeing this through dmesg: [24012.265800] NFS: nfs_update_inode(0:41/1653343 fh_crc=0x9257f59a ct=1 info=0x27e7f) [24012.266207] NFS: nfs_update_inode(0:41/1653343 fh_crc=0x9257f59a ct=1 info=0x27e7f) [24012.266215] NFS: permission(0:41/1653343), mask=0x26, res=0 [24012.284651] NFS: nfs_update_inode(0:41/1653339 fh_crc=0x998992f7 ct=1 info=0x7feff) [24012.285181] NFS: nfs_update_inode(0:41/1653339 fh_crc=0x998992f7 ct=1 info=0x7feff) [24012.285251] NFS: dentry_delete(entries/ADDBB8F380DD96E0D9B49F9AF600706F6A1431BA, 4808cc) [24012.294851] NFS: nfs_update_inode(0:41/1653196 fh_crc=0x6513c0a6 ct=1 info=0x7feff) [24012.295399] NFS: nfs_update_inode(0:41/1653196 fh_crc=0x6513c0a6 ct=1 info=0x7feff) [24012.295510] NFS: dentry_delete(entries/9AEB965A3D7D6F96E61BD8427D8296215AE6CE13, 4808cc) [24013.731223] NFS: permission(0:41/4), mask=0x1, res=0 [24013.731237] NFS: permission(0:41/1649925), mask=0x1, res=0 [24013.731244] NFS: permission(0:41/1649944), mask=0x1, res=0 [24013.731251] NFS: dentry_delete(.config/menus, 808cc) Has anyone experienced this type of behavior before, and possibly help guide me on how to debug it to get to the root of the problem? Many thanks! Regards, Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 24 22:53:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB7C9AA5E1 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 22:53:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F31851433 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 22:53:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t6OMret6028368 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 15:53:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.1 btw.pki2.com t6OMret6028368 Authentication-Results: btw.pki2.com; dmarc=none header.from=pki2.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=pki2.com; s=pki2; t=1437778421; bh=85VMQuraA+gsSmtR1VUGMQIM75jF4tQmq8qijH1DwaU=; h=Subject:From:To:Date; z=Subject:=20C++=20container=20performance|From:=20Dennis=20Glattin g=20|To:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Date:=2 0Fri,=2024=20Jul=202015=2015:53:40=20-0700; b=hXDmBE1k93cAdVECiuWB9psJ9vC3K3sZgh4gnSRKYR/WfqscIP7b7P+BMoAexU7qH JxYTHIlqa/D+38OfDMA11tIMqVe+8hM0BgSp5kzId8U12xmP1G2G438foqx6T6hGqd m+LGWA/5pHT+Mta0OSSSpiEvoVWHxslPiN7Vk4Awnf7T/DCwuxZm04KkkmYEij7sLc TXxHnSfJ+WiFE0WnMV2+QEKCfYzyy9vFzCFvo9EUqK+85qY+Xj5Uex20aPuB1LB0wH OLgR5OJaXCMwsKrgI9CajaK+sUwoZNd5h1h47ePhs6uY2D1LpN90HyProMwvWXvVQd CoiAsccbleSOA== Message-ID: <1437778420.67638.120.camel@pki2.com> Subject: C++ container performance From: Dennis Glatting To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 15:53:40 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.11 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner-ID: t6OMret6028368 X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: freebsd@pki2.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 22:53:53 -0000 I have a relatively small program (needs to be smaller for post) where the performance of some STD c++ containers (deque and queue) is more or less twice as slow under clang than gcc. My question is whether I should file something under FreeBSD or llvm? Or maybe this is a known, irrelevant problem? Summary: clang++ 3.4.1 clang++ 3.7.0 g++49 g++5 deque: 0.000890143 0.000646584 0.000367548 0.000365817 root@Tasha# uname -a FreeBSD Tasha 10.2-BETA1 FreeBSD 10.2-BETA1 #0 r285434: Sun Jul 12 16:57:18 PDT 2015 root@Tasha:/disk-2/obj/disk-1/src/sys/SMUNI-FreeBSD10-amd64 amd64 root@Tasha# c++ -O3 -std=c++11 -Wsign-compare -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -fvisibility=hidden -finline -I /usr/local/include main_dc.cc complex deque: size=88 Done: total_t: 44507162167, sec_t: 44.5072, t/ea: 0.000890143 root@Tasha# clang++-devel -O3 -std=c++11 -Wsign-compare -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -fvisibility=hidden -finline -I /usr/local/include main_dc.cc complex deque: size=88 Done: total_t: 32329207134, sec_t: 32.3292, t/ea: 0.000646584 root@Tasha# g++49 -O3 -std=c++11 -Wsign-compare -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -fvisibility=hidden -finline -I /usr/local/include main_dc.cc complex deque: size=120 Done: total_t: 18377396318, sec_t: 18.3774, t/ea: 0.000367548 root@Tasha# g++5 -O3 -std=c++11 -Wsign-compare -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -fvisibility=hidden -finline -I /usr/local/include main_dc.cc complex deque: size=120 Done: total_t: 18290835564, sec_t: 18.2908, t/ea: 0.000365817 root@Tasha# g++6 -O3 -std=c++11 -Wsign-compare -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -fvisibility=hidden -finline -I /usr/local/include main_dc.cc complex deque: size=120 Done: total_t: 18249643758, sec_t: 18.2496, t/ea: 0.000364993 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 03:37:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8D99AA7BA for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 03:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ps06756@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-x230.google.com (mail-lb0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3869D166E for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 03:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ps06756@gmail.com) Received: by lbbzr7 with SMTP id zr7so25358513lbb.1 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 20:37:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=eLU/HAi5tDKsWdG5B1106PCFn3MU6+ZslI2w8Sh/qRM=; b=MwIL9OPw2i7l25mw/S698h9/HZZgYnRF8c2Q5P0qEOJ4m2G60F0BCPZWjWBL+k0Ods Rc6Ou24FdM7902whWgpRsMiJTTYGqccyziPRK5FOj5HysF0dYFChp+ju0/vWgk2B4FHM LHOnNdIft08BSpKDmkTk8GPQsWciGcuP65ye90GAeg08Vxv1/NJQ7OTerckt+3DQi/Ml MzoY837Ma0b0Vdt3ZY47Re6M96/kwYfNkWI+KoqzwhAFNdd2jQCZuNLKy890IgTtmoos /c1Fz2eJukZDP6arxMX8hPISMMwu0K/ewe5FJLrD44nsD+4gN+HwiiYcdL7E9eZl6m1g Di1g== X-Received: by 10.152.5.36 with SMTP id p4mr3656359lap.102.1437795465998; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 20:37:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.87.194 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 20:37:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Pratik Singhal Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:07:26 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD Ac97 interface To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 03:37:48 -0000 Hello all, I am writing the driver for AC'97 controller present in Allwinner A10 SoC as a part of my Google summer of code Project. I have understood the theoretical aspects of AC'97 and know "what" to code, but I am unable to understand , how to interface the code with FreeBSD kernel. For ex, when making changes in the mmc driver, it was very clear that the high-level file sys/dev/mmc/mmc.c will call the methods defined in our implementation of mmc driver, In the case of AC'97, what all files should I look at ? I have so far looked at sys/dev/sound/pcm/ directory, but can't seem to understand much there. Also,how does FreeBSD control the AC-link , which will be used to control various parameters related to AC'97 codec I/O ? I am new to working with sound at this low level, so there might be some trivial things which I may have missed. Any help would be very valuable for timely completion of project. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 05:09:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1877D9A93CC for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 05:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hetakcoder@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x234.google.com (mail-wi0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A09CD196E for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 05:09:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hetakcoder@gmail.com) Received: by wibud3 with SMTP id ud3so83206842wib.1 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 22:09:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=A1dxclK5rbkZWGhKONOoX3bqJdN8n4vQTrm0RFNbibA=; b=xWNibJFWuMF0peTyrq4kd1/J4QsrO8MWIfhKIKukXw3TJdRz9cRsWWbNIkVUnZkG7A 3zw80VffTBJ3RXngdheIEp4sCuhUrNvQd+EAABSbakdxCDww/ZJY6PC5EjzMqo7qayD2 /mwq+jzDuJBCAjoeTegJDbzNlZdXY9AgQeeez+YjgFvGS4+PIApegR4HG5UlHxyg2GpM gFX5MTae1qEjLNNs7iKJ3UxhrMjh4LkOi/UxJZT6JESE74x0zbTbDmO8LZPK02r6LWXi R6zRWRprkzSib0Je4PS4zcSUBefEfj8V3bwnQLKy16+UWhdWagLTry9Z7y4SrRrjo18N /bVg== X-Received: by 10.194.142.209 with SMTP id ry17mr35653927wjb.5.1437800970249; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 22:09:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.68.233 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 22:08:50 -0700 (PDT) From: HeTak Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:38:50 +0430 Message-ID: Subject: freebsd Devel?? To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 05:09:32 -0000 Hi there, Pardon me for this somehow off-topic question :) I have recently started some developments on freebsd kernel, I wanted to know whether this is the right group to ask my questions or not? I prospected to find a group named like "FreeBSD Devel" or so, but there were not any.. would someone gives me a hand on this? Thanks :) -- HeTak From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 05:51:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8549A9D1A for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 05:51:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ps06756@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-x233.google.com (mail-lb0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64C97C56 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 05:51:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ps06756@gmail.com) Received: by lbbqi7 with SMTP id qi7so26172309lbb.3 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 22:51:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=eHwILuZMXz1aRgP9GobJ3qboCdmnun08ZwCJFf/7054=; b=bqudlbh6L2mKMPEAmcqBUJVQGHbksL/EBB0k4zHfStF31uJDTnoyOk2u0Earc5CBmj IJjyDm0BNkrxNtDfhtMqtA+BDWhKpz3PcutXXLt3KL8Z/Bi7tQwSCS/pM8zzF8jItRcx F+wYoLzD0F5mz+g5dwaAOXl2c68AQ9bYDIsCdZ0ygvpTmYdJ10fGDzVcDOyPIR7CmAOA OqIdgXalQG0IeJPpGwFuFyxWDepHuLNQkZNjgEq7AzJNxM2qE22mK45zMC7p0VSRK+Ho 13esdgW0DUmx70FFobTgN9+7CH6+AdmxNIUoNVuXil0B7TBT4YivMlScF4SqWh0930R1 MrCQ== X-Received: by 10.152.18.137 with SMTP id w9mr7169089lad.23.1437803512407; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 22:51:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.87.194 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 22:51:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Pratik Singhal Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 11:21:33 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd Devel?? To: HeTak Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 05:51:55 -0000 Here is the list of different mailing lists use by FreeBSD users and developers (https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/) . Please go through it, It contains a description of what topics are suitable for each mailing list. On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 10:38 AM, HeTak wrote: > Hi there, > > Pardon me for this somehow off-topic question :) > > I have recently started some developments on freebsd kernel, I wanted to > know whether this is the right group to ask my questions or not? > > I prospected to find a group named like "FreeBSD Devel" or so, but there > were not any.. would someone gives me a hand on this? Thanks :) > > -- HeTak > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Regards, Pratik Singhal From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 07:21:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3539AAB56 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 07:21:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x22e.google.com (mail-la0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B418ED26 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 07:21:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by lahh5 with SMTP id h5so25060667lah.2 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 00:21:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=sw+mvqMoW8ZJVmazdqSgEgPuUV/f2EFXRU7b+ppaFAY=; b=txwuJzcdnpn+BP25Jl2tyURgkRLV9MeUf0YG69G6CvFfa1jE82WgsNnSaYdqBDf6td 7yQ61IZmwJMGlp9qyaVuuHVrnsql1x3WKTFvlS5GnZReTnWuZWlLG4Jw1mUQKbRNkNyF gl3BQMeXw2BNqk+R7yw+/7AqJFS6WM6NfnkjwLOyECJyC4xAVwDuh/IKTU78TrYZO5Vy EL7zq+0MZxH/8lV3/Ogk6nTNZp64hzxBfgj8T+sOFAEQhcYbEZWabJ2896DitK9EEez3 PVF+0KwEWlsdwxup/M+gK+VULKGGW/GBvY8SJfZ+/xDlhas5HVxdUYCeqVh3UaZKUrsE rjDw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.142.105 with SMTP id rv9mr17126446lbb.11.1437808903579; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 00:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.45.5 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 00:21:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.45.5 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 00:21:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:21:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD Ac97 interface From: Tomek CEDRO To: Pratik Singhal Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 07:21:47 -0000 Hello :-) Not sure how this works, but surely speaker routing management of some sort would be great to see implemented for AC97 and HDA drivers :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 07:31:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2113E9AACE7 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 07:31:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hetakcoder@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x230.google.com (mail-wi0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FB121099 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 07:31:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hetakcoder@gmail.com) Received: by wicmv11 with SMTP id mv11so84648397wic.0 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 00:31:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=hEDHRVp9Ngq3Fxcj0m/WDfUxao2mU9AjLBHqiZu8USE=; b=SnXctb/cFWeTwtyO+egPneewxJjM2TftcBDxkTShnt1TES2eBbmJdd50IH2nL9oP4w O/kpFJaoneSWEl5clfa5RjrJks2U4gQ3bJtLPkOkw+602NTJ55OWrCv6fm90x9g+lxow Pyq+X4RGpAhd5Y6FeLPGo0AJjYcZH67txlJ2YJMg6yTDyCAMP1qpezAV1F/URZdEo/UG cOD1zuT88/u0mms08fuZyAwc03XYiRJdMLjkvZ819H5i5ECKkTPgpHtrmEZafMdOCDVy CDvazpTu+dtpUHEmsM7hpzWK7wlslyQUmfRdkiPCInScGuv6qZoHABaOK4AIrmADKdnz m4IA== X-Received: by 10.180.20.198 with SMTP id p6mr4325946wie.38.1437809475377; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 00:31:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.68.233 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 00:30:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: HeTak Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 12:00:35 +0430 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd Devel?? To: Pratik Singhal Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 07:31:18 -0000 Thanks alot for the tip :) On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Pratik Singhal wrote: > Here is the list of different mailing lists use by FreeBSD users and > developers (https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/) . Please go > through it, It contains a description of what topics are suitable for each > mailing list. > > > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 10:38 AM, HeTak wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> Pardon me for this somehow off-topic question :) >> >> I have recently started some developments on freebsd kernel, I wanted to >> know whether this is the right group to ask my questions or not? >> >> I prospected to find a group named like "FreeBSD Devel" or so, but there >> were not any.. would someone gives me a hand on this? Thanks :) >> >> -- HeTak >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > > -- > Regards, > Pratik Singhal > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 07:33:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3649AAD51 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 07:33:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nibbana@gmx.us) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B453711CA for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 07:33:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nibbana@gmx.us) Received: from mail.gmx.com ([72.251.118.47]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MLS74-1ZILjM2O2s-000ZVv for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:33:42 +0200 Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 23:33:38 -0800 From: "CK" To: Cc: Subject: Endless Data Loss Reply-To: "CK" X-Mailer: UMail v1.0 Message-ID: <0MRCCJ-1ZUCcr1rAt-00UeQk@mail.gmx.com> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:TizWpzxgquaXCV5ABSRAqSN3N/AChz/H8QvQNDykass+BwxreIL /XmKWFntqTim/uuxalkAhiQiJocojBCJQbKPRCgi8hqoFEmn2sS/6g7YkvA7nR8V2AHYnMO 5Yl31Y3zC/QoqNYgSnx4EJ6xU5pB1C+3BO9wckJf3oyUikXhFctpi85Vu9zXWNbcC6WSlXV 2L31rSHgy2fOTFMXqQiCw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:28wU8UnzbN0=:6bDeMrsVUCP/tZSIj5sjBc gIoE117yKosDDQQDBLWfKQ15OytewyyqoSFILzStXV++GEa9ZnbwzCBdXVZ/O9KtZLs59JTfo 1NG8xDlsYtwk3l2CHcoVEbpKnH+rv7E5Mky1GhGLckRaqwb3IcQd25u+c5Y6+C30Q8vpmFCXa eFlLc/bStDPRdKke1yy/l28jBdVrtpHJHO9V2hXM60mGGs10uTf+ZDeO5i/l859tJ2tT6kswM 6mTc+P+RGJfeqOirv9933RwJKnFIZmusnxudi/h+hI8Lou0d1mBaK77X93sHokNZdnSCOzMW0 EDGvvWBOcJGVaxGCtQ5VTDVt0uWwsvfhySruj58xOtQyuvmA9kvT7kO5aY8Yb3Qwui9KPBeF7 8vKfZSnB2VQXVHgk6aKGqitaSFchCSfRSdk6KPTGhKRj9qVWFeixmVfVqDiPfORqlBhKyrfpf zCdT6gncqKHW74yFhxZ/y17ksZUiYntUZHVRNXkdrdwPBPoSjmxVIpM2MBgz37krMSkRuTvBH TQrzoSF97FS+mSmV7xz8pzd24c+X6Cg72uik7AWZUdabJqh7WDEULqWFw+MrGndSE7xFz4R4T GIn+GPY5JtM0j8QHjszRc/7oR2YDcLzvJQ+F8GQuaGsV/EkgFNi/VZx/phaN0OhEK4BEm8eCa e1YKhfiQzsnNHlnECNxURO1ElzHtqc90WDc9bEeEX78Xpzw== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 07:33:54 -0000 Hi readers, In the last 2 years, I have upgraded from 4.11 to 9.2 then 9.3 releases, and since upgrading to the 9 series, I have experienced endless data loss - every time I reboot my computer, massive numbers of files vanish - 20 - 50 - a lot. And it's driving me crazy. I don't expect to get any fixes here, but something is wrong with the code - it's happening on ATA drives, USB flash drives, a few of each kind. So, it's definitely not a hardware problem. I wrote about this 2 months ago or so, and was advised to run a utility on my hard drives - and the utility showed some wear, but this is happening on USB sticks and cards as well, and has nothing to do with old ATA drive wear. I searched Google for data loss on FreeBSD, and I see that many others have this problem as well. After 20 years, I am not keen on switching away from FreeBSD, but the data loss is just killing me. Every day, I am losing dozens of files. I am backing up, but that is not the best solution, because it's easy to backup and mirror the data loss as well, and it's a pain to constantly have the stress of not knowing if critical files exist or not, and constantly matching directories/archives to see which are complete and current. FreeBSD forums blocks my access, possibly because I don't have a high-speed connection, so I can't read the material there. Sometimes the loss is on newly created/saved files, sometimes on ancient files, sometimes on ATA, sometimes on USB. I can't find any pattern, other than it always happens on a reboot, and it seems slightly worse with SoftUpdates+Journaling. I know this is not an easy thing to analyze, but I never ever had these problems with 4.11 on the same hardware. No problems at all. But with the 9 series, a problem with every reboot. Any advice? PS. One thing I notice is that if I ever ensure correct permissions of the .sujournal files, but setting them to the same values that they already have, upon reboot I get an error message to the effect "timestamp on journal doesn't match last mount time", and then there is a fallback to a full fsck, most always followed by some cleared inodes and file loss. Helpful hint or not, I don't know. -- Copyright (c) 1992-2014 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE #5: Sat Jul 18 23:07:35 AKDT 2015 root@localhost.earthlink.net:/usr/obj/umass/src/sys/MYKERN i386 gcc version 4.2.1 20070831 patched [FreeBSD] CPU: VIA Nehemiah (666.64-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x698 Family = 0x6 Model = 0x9 Stepping = 8 Features=0x381b83f VIA Padlock Features=0xdd real memory = 536870912 (512 MB) avail memory = 482418688 (460 MB) cryptosoft0: on motherboard padlock0: on motherboard acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, 1def0000 (3) failed cpu0: on acpi0 attimer0: port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on acpi0 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Event timer "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100 atrtc0: port 0x70-0x73 irq 8 on acpi0 Event timer "RTC" frequency 32768 Hz quality 0 Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 900 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: on hostb0 agp0: aperture size is 128M pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 vgapci0: mem 0xd8000000-0xdbffffff,0xdc000000-0xdcffffff irq 15 at device 0.0 on pci1 drm0: on vgapci0 info: [drm] AGP at 0xd0000000 128MB info: [drm] Initialized via 2.11.1 20070202 vgapci0: Boot video device uhci0: port 0xd000-0xd01f irq 15 at device 16.0 on pci0 usbus0 on uhci0 uhci1: port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 5 at device 16.1 on pci0 usbus1 on uhci1 uhci2: port 0xd800-0xd81f irq 11 at device 16.2 on pci0 usbus2 on uhci2 ehci0: mem 0xde000000-0xde0000ff irq 10 at device 16.3 on pci0 usbus3: EHCI version 1.0 usbus3 on ehci0 isab0: at device 17.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xdc00-0xdc0f at device 17.1 on pci0 ata0: at channel 0 on atapci0 ata1: at channel 1 on atapci0 pcm0: port 0xe000-0xe0ff irq 11 at device 17.5 on pci0 pcm0: pcm0: uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: on ppc0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 orm0: at iomem 0xd0000-0xd7fff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus1: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus2: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus3: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 ugen0.1: at usbus0 uhub0: on usbus0 ugen1.1: at usbus1 uhub1: on usbus1 ugen2.1: at usbus2 uhub2: on usbus2 ugen3.1: at usbus3 uhub3: on usbus3 ada0 at ata0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 ada0: ATA-5 device ada0: Serial Number WD-WMA9T1222658 ada0: 100.000MB/s transfers (UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: 38166MB (78165360 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada0: Previously was known as ad0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 666641179 Hz quality 800 Root mount waiting for: usbus3 usbus2 usbus1 usbus0 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Root mount waiting for: usbus3 Root mount waiting for: usbus3 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered Root mount waiting for: usbus3 ugen3.2: at usbus3 uhub4: on usbus3 uhub4: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered Root mount waiting for: usbus3 Root mount waiting for: usbus3 ugen3.3: at usbus3 umass0: on usbus3 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-6 device da0: Serial Number 4C530001640512116413 da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: 29812MB (61056064 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 3800C) da0: quirks=0x2 ugen3.4: at usbus3 umass1: on usbus3 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ada0p2 [rw]... da1 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus3 target 0 lun 0 da1: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da1: Serial Number 058F63666438 da1: 40.000MB/s transfers da1: 30436MB (62333952 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 3880C) da1: quirks=0x2 GEOM_ELI: Device ada0p3.eli created. GEOM_ELI: Encryption: 3DES-CBC 192 GEOM_ELI: Crypto: software GEOM_ELI: Device ada0p4.eli created. GEOM_ELI: Encryption: AES-XTS 128 GEOM_ELI: Crypto: software tun0: link state changed to UP cpu I686_CPU ident MYKERN options ATA_CAM # Handle legacy controllers with CAM options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options GEOM_PART_GPT # REQ'D FOR BOOTING! options GEOM_ELI # Crypto Disks. options INET # InterNETworking #options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options PADLOCK_RNG # VIA Padlock RNG options SCHED_ULE # options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions device crypto # cryptosoft0: on motherboard device padlock # padlock0: on motherboard (Via C3/Eden/C7) device acpi # acpi0: on motherboard # acpi0: Power Button (fixed) # acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed # acpi0: reservation of 100000, 1def0000 (3) failed # cpu0: on acpi0 # attimer0: # port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on acpi0 # Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 # Event timer "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100 # atrtc0: # port 0x70-0x73 irq 8 on acpi0 # Event timer "RTC" frequency 32768 Hz quality 0 # Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 900 # acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> # port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 # acpi_button0: on acpi0 # pcib0: # port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 # pci0: on pcib0 # acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 device agp # agp0: on hostb0 # agp0: aperture size is 128M device pci # pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 # pci1: on pcib1 # vgapci0: # mem 0xd8000000-0xdbffffff,0xdc000000-0xdcffff device drm # drm0: on vgapci0 device viadrm # info: [drm] AGP at 0xd0000000 128MB # info: [drm] Initialized via 2.11.1 20070202 device usb # device uhci # uhci0: # port 0xd000-0xd01f irq 11 # at device 16.0 on pci0 # on usbus0 on uhci0 # uhci1: # port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 3 # at device 16.1 on pci0 # on usbus1 on uhci1 # uhci2: # port 0xd800-0xd81f irq 10 # at device 16.2 on pci0 # on usbus2 on uhci2 device ehci # ehci0: # mem 0xde000000-0xde0000ff irq 5 # at device 16.3 on pci0 # on pci0 # usbus3: EHCI version 1.0 # usbus3 on ehci0 device scbus # SCSI bus (required for ATA/SCSI) device pass # Passthrough device (direct ATA/SCSI access) device ata # atapci0: # port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376 # ata0: at channel 0 on atapci0 # ata1: at channel 1 on atapci0 # ada0 at ata0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 # ada0: ATA-5 device # ada0: 100.000MB/s transfers (UDMA5, PIO 8192 bytes) device sound # Generic sound driver (required) device snd_via8233 # pcm0: # port 0xe000-0xe0ff irq 10 # at device 17.5 on pci0 # pcm0: # pcm0: device uart # uart0: <16550 or compatible> # port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 # flags 0x10 on acpi0 device ppc # ppc0: # port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 # on acpi0 # ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode device ppbus # ppbus0: on ppc0 device lpt # lpt0: on ppbus0, Interrupt-driven port device ppi # on ppbus0 device atkbdc # atkbdc0: # port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 # on acpi0 device atkbd # atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0, [GIANT-LOCKED] # kbd0 at atkbd0 device psm # psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0, [GIANT-LOCKED] # psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 device sc # sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 # sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> device vga # vga0: at # port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 #device vr # # port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xde001000-0xde0010ff irq 11 # at device 18.0 on pci0 # vr0: Quirks: 0x0 # vr0: Revision: 0x74 #device miibus # miibus0: on vr0 # ukphy0: # PHY 1 on miibus0 # ukphy0: none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, # 100baseTX-FDX, auto, auto-flow # vr0: Ethernet address: 00:40:63:df:10:d2 device umass # umass0: on usbus3 # umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x4001 # umass0:3:0:-1: Attached to scbus3 device da # da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 # da0: # Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device # da0: 40.000MB/s transfers # da0: 30436MB # da0: quirks=0x2 device cd # cd0 at ata1 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 # cd0: # Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device # cd0: 33.300MB/s transfers # (UDMA2, ATAPI 12 bytes, PIO 65534 bytes) # cd0: cd present [274040 x 2048 byte records] device bpf # Berkeley packet filter device ether # Ethernet support device loop # Network loopback device random # Entropy device device splash # Syscons saver device tun # Packet tunnel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 07:44:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DEF39AA02B for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 07:44:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nibbana@gmx.us) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AA2A1D7E for ; 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And when I posted 2 months ago or so, I got the same spam emails from China. How is China finding out email addresses of everyone that posts to freebsd-questions, and can the SPAM be stopped? These are the 3 emails I just got from posting: To: Cc: Bcc: Subject: =?utf-8?B?6Ieq5Yqo5Zue5aSN77yaRW5kbGVzcyBEYXRhIExvc3M=?= Reply-To: X-Mailer: UMail v1.0 > Return-Path: taogediyi+==bmliYmFuYUBnbXgudXM===@sina.com > Received: from mail2-182.sinamail.sina.com.cn ([60.28.2.182]) by mx-ha.gmx.net > (mxgmx006) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0La3rR-1Ye1hY0AZB-00lp8w for > ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:34:21 +0200 > Received: from mda04.fmail.tg.sinanode.com ([172.16.113.64]) > by irtj11-93.sinamail.sina.com.cn with ESMTP; 25 Jul 2015 15:34:14 +0800 > Received: by mda04.fmail.tg.sinanode.com (Postfix, from userid 99) > id 4FE062C0051; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 15:34:14 +0800 (CST) > Auther: VipMail_1.0 (REM) > Sender: taogediyi+==bmliYmFuYUBnbXgudXM===@sina.com > MIME_version: 1.0 > Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > Content-transfer-encoding: base64 > Message-Id: <20150725073414.4FE062C0051@mda04.fmail.tg.sinanode.com> > Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 15:34:14 +0800 (CST) > Envelope-To: > X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); 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Sat, 25 Jul 2015 01:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.65.85 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 01:20:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5585FED3.8070608@googlemail.com> References: <5585FED3.8070608@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 10:20:01 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: No Sound with Realtek ALC269 From: Denis D To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 08:20:04 -0000 i haven't still found a solution, could someone helped me? It's annoying to use a usb audio device for this, because it blocks 1 USB Port of my notebook. On 21 June 2015 at 02:01, Denis D wrote: > Thanks for the Reply, but it doesn't help, also the following setting > is wrong > > hw.snd.default_unit=4 > > I don't have a pcm4 > > On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 00:48:27 +0200, Denis D via freebsd-questions stated:*> > > > *> > >See if this makes any difference. > > > >/etc/sysctl.conf > > > > hw.snd.default_unit=4 > > hw.snd.maxautovchans=4 > > dev.pcm.0.play.vchans=4 > > > >-- > >Jerry > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 08:33:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB2E9AAC83 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 08:33:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E2D81447 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 08:33:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id t6P8Wr4Z088305 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:32:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk t6P8Wr4Z088305 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/t6P8Wr4Z088305; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6] claimed to be liminal.local Subject: Re: freebsd Devel?? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <55B349AA.8080308@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:32:42 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XMvJ8k0KkmKNMbeKJHbLuWJVUwCDxfoeS" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 08:33:12 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --XMvJ8k0KkmKNMbeKJHbLuWJVUwCDxfoeS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 25/07/2015 06:08, HeTak wrote: > Pardon me for this somehow off-topic question :) Asking where to ask questions is not off topic for questions@... > I have recently started some developments on freebsd kernel, I wanted t= o > know whether this is the right group to ask my questions or not? >=20 > I prospected to find a group named like "FreeBSD Devel" or so, but ther= e > were not any.. would someone gives me a hand on this? Thanks :) The place to ask generally about FreeBSD development is the freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org mailing list. If you have more technically focussed questions about specific areas of the kernel then there are any number of more specific mailing lists, but start with hackers@... Cheers, Matthew --XMvJ8k0KkmKNMbeKJHbLuWJVUwCDxfoeS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJVs0mxXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATIVgP/1jcy+1THDFjwy/SBcQw3Lrr 9U9/Ft+5Z++Hm3z59oDh28Y/o1K/KceNzMzFO9iHizniiHcHnzpODfo1lQcWkDEJ 39LZ3/ionF04LhnaaE36claERITNqtiKiYLh4NL9Zt4x5UsoIKRvB8Gn1dJO2FJK Qt+AJKq7rqMePTaNN73yRLMTylY6Ojs6zWewg+LpiHiZb1IjEe+AWy9b3VkY3YxP UGLbqvoybcFGXfsBw4Zn4yr8vXkNjwqlVL9ig1jPODYEOXLosrixwMSfUY4s2qGA i5B4yHWpv3woA7cIULR4udkvY3Z8lrfZr6qvL/hflSrk4kN7r04+nR508cQgfUy8 +Gpc+eErU+t1uVAo+ak0UxKgTwJM+6inPvDeQpN8rg55pBfM+0riAsfMPAvEH9MX iKvYqqRxLobTd86CWipaofOHFjIxJPRKxS9EPzlXd++9NpJhBS/dtysJhpYjev8k n3xSYzi/TTzbq2U/Ex+0SkC6SytxVkeowZPJeIzcSJYt3EIUDLEBZfj7kMju220e s5CHfiUVWlADApvikGNzhgnULTBqB5WVYjjgUcGurQmsAbX6F1hGUo2zwqUsv+Td JXR52OmhFoVhxnn7X9YH2bjDMfSASnk+U63U+boy5j+a4je6DKX61UQRYx0txHVr z5mSk1Lc57YAUwgbm2RF =nOir -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XMvJ8k0KkmKNMbeKJHbLuWJVUwCDxfoeS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 08:38:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F6769AAD10 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 08:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 998A61562 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 08:38:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local ([192.168.100.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id t6P8cYYO023502 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:38:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk t6P8cYYO023502 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/t6P8cYYO023502; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host [192.168.100.2] claimed to be liminal.local Subject: Re: Endless Data Loss To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0MRCCJ-1ZUCcr1rAt-00UeQk@mail.gmx.com> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <55B34B09.3010106@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:38:33 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0MRCCJ-1ZUCcr1rAt-00UeQk@mail.gmx.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9wqmfoUGWKsO2nM4okWlCabaGMctc3dCg" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 08:38:50 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --9wqmfoUGWKsO2nM4okWlCabaGMctc3dCg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 25/07/2015 08:33, CK wrote: > In the last 2 years, I have upgraded from 4.11 to 9.2 then 9.3 > releases, and since upgrading to the 9 series, I have experienced > endless data loss - every time I reboot my computer, massive numbers > of files vanish - 20 - 50 - a lot. And it's driving me crazy. > I don't expect to get any fixes here, but something is wrong > with the code - it's happening on ATA drives, USB flash drives, > a few of each kind. So, it's definitely not a hardware problem. This is all on the same machine? If it's been in service since 4.11 days, then it is ancient in computing terms. Don't disregard hardware problems so quickly. It's not just hard drives that can have problems: disk controllers, disk cabling, even failing power supplies can result in these sort of symptoms. Cheers, Matthew --9wqmfoUGWKsO2nM4okWlCabaGMctc3dCg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJVs0sKXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkAT0w4P/RCJcqdEiJazJeRofL3r8WpH 2ts6Vko0uQSwJxKXvMp648Nfichix/tJlIkviYpSg2YEBTq+uByLj3mvQqt960S4 gqMeVNLUdg3pWlAMRVB3CeMJIE4kr8987Ia7b2/vtzgcwvPBP3sywM8NlxLsIq2b qheXM2eHM+X3UtArUsA3j1+REnITz3+b8UiMWooOFpRnq806mRyGEaaCc4plQrYD tN8ztMNdvvO3A6Yq4Wbv4lr00GNIM7whFz7F36UgbPBYRRgw10zHPOoh94GIXxHQ fUGHFKhqFIB5QLwrz+8rBEtPJls5vjVy8uEHRY9qrg7glmSII9snmBnEimiUxxRk s5RhLqmEKG+p5HmWC7N7pFrXrUpFLawJzzfFzf2HVQaL8z/mI4DbCqW8lKx/H6Wv 9PPgYXhoE6Vwe0DFXFy1mNlEg8ZQ3ijXmV8wyoXUGwa9+aH12A5GBn9ZKUIE7xob 3x/Bx9yWwST9Ih0FBTwHVfCw1ZdbTih+C+McJ749HWshyd80LYQjXhw7890zPbsE P0XPadH/sFqN0LqnN0rI63OVWTrd3wNk0fTBBR2CUdphjNOwcuLd4DOQGzFbWFaK 73jMznjM7lQs60hZwRU0AIruhJGnC3Ivk2Hd977dxSfzY08J+k+tAfqDmXkonHGl KXJfe6lIVRcna/TBNKE/ =YYkj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9wqmfoUGWKsO2nM4okWlCabaGMctc3dCg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 08:41:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C4D9AAD81 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 08:41:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hetakcoder@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x234.google.com (mail-wi0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0916F16BA; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 08:41:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hetakcoder@gmail.com) Received: by wibud3 with SMTP id ud3so86443093wib.1; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 01:40:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=32aqoA3YSTDYEcP45TAiphaRvLmEMiUA3mCfp/x0jT0=; b=xPYLwDLxNddb+/3OtJQTdCicoJQvh2ShM01IeN12/QiSDC0m4KpEDNnzspMlx2t2fS edYyMJDO2nYo3xgxnMWormqLzXVgeOiyk2x+yvd7HpaCJiIMAV9oNO64DMj7P6POFTGf oLuxWNYscxLFs4QFCaHlErUzNKrdZhCjCtknD3bpwRfSkFgcq42J+19ZoFs88pPklkBr gM43yUT54yJEpdddux4M7BCTbwdFHPkQQoK1Z6BAFyWJ/XKlAravP/IvSiasB8No+3nF onTyMErI8LlEbTBtQA7vwvflyrJhrHYb7PqTOOyvlzjkQhUC1xb3fzWnhzgEBzXvG1V0 bZQQ== X-Received: by 10.194.246.105 with SMTP id xv9mr34562432wjc.135.1437813659401; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 01:40:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.68.233 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 01:40:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55B349AA.8080308@FreeBSD.org> References: <55B349AA.8080308@FreeBSD.org> From: HeTak Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:10:19 +0430 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd Devel?? To: Matthew Seaman Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 08:41:01 -0000 Thank you, Matthew, I'll get started with hackers :) On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 25/07/2015 06:08, HeTak wrote: > > Pardon me for this somehow off-topic question :) > > Asking where to ask questions is not off topic for questions@... > > > I have recently started some developments on freebsd kernel, I wanted to > > know whether this is the right group to ask my questions or not? > > > > I prospected to find a group named like "FreeBSD Devel" or so, but there > > were not any.. would someone gives me a hand on this? Thanks :) > > The place to ask generally about FreeBSD development is the > freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org mailing list. If you have more technically > focussed questions about specific areas of the kernel then there are any > number of more specific mailing lists, but start with hackers@... > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 09:10:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB979A9666 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:10:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88458138 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from [66.91.233.235] ([66.91.233.235:26565] helo=localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com) by dnvrco-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 38/18-21290-9FE43B55; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 08:55:22 +0000 Received: by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 224365CAA; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 23:02:59 -1000 (HST) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 23:02:59 -1000 From: parv@pair.com To: CK Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Forum access problem (was Re: Endless Data Loss) Message-ID: <20150725090259.GA1943@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: CK , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0MRCCJ-1ZUCcr1rAt-00UeQk@mail.gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0MRCCJ-1ZUCcr1rAt-00UeQk@mail.gmx.com> X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.118:25 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=YZQz5mhf c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lTVOjstemKd+xnJOf5b3+g==:117 a=lTVOjstemKd+xnJOf5b3+g==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=Ymsr-CWnAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zOBTXjUuO1YA:10 a=7YfXLusrAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=ogoFwHvN4WbR-4bjqHIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=W2e6h7vL_DEA:10 a=Pmwh1rZ1nMoA:10 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:10:47 -0000 in message <0MRCCJ-1ZUCcr1rAt-00UeQk@mail.gmx.com>, wrote CK thusly... > ... > FreeBSD forums blocks my access, possibly because I don't have a > high-speed connection, so I can't read the material there. ... Most likely you have problems with SSL or security certificates. I cannot access the forum via Opera 12.16 but have no problem with Firefox 39. Therer was a recent thread ... http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2015-June/266585.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2015-June/thread.html -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 10:55:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038E09AA3A6 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 10:55:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward16p.cmail.yandex.net (forward16p.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1465::bf]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Certum Level IV CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD8231860 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 10:55:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp17.mail.yandex.net (smtp17.mail.yandex.net [95.108.252.17]) by forward16p.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 3086120AA5 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:55:34 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp17.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp17.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id F3F331900DB7 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:55:33 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp17.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id RQmaOTdWmA-tWTWan6V; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:55:33 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1437821733; bh=YLIK7JF0NZj9aa7XQR7pZV1URpYTS8p+0YQFQHd349M=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:Content-Type:X-Mailer: Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cr078wkBNo+3VJi24wOTe3HXE4Cn44w6XeUQYNXjqtFV6CpAxsTLb7RflwebMH8Nq nA2wgSm1kIllMjP0cNBAVLS/sIdbKfWejg118qjqRsG7e6bApCe6LDw0pVoY4Ezlyh eykDB/33GZDIONvE8iZ+9fhqYdChpG86LLA2sm0c= Authentication-Results: smtp17.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Message-ID: <1437821730.53671.2.camel@yandex.com> Subject: pkg audit From: Stari Karp To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 06:55:30 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.11 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 10:55:46 -0000 Hi! I run pkg audit -q once or twice a week and I have the same problems long time: pkg audit -q linux-c6-xorg-libs-7.4_2 sox-14.4.2 ffmpeg0-0.7.16_10,1 Do we still need ffmpeg0, please? Thank you. -- ajtiM ----- http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lumiwa-FARM/775292915882930?_fb_noscript=1 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 11:32:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A76D9AAB8E for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 11:32:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE9381E7D for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 11:32:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t6PBWjfJ036349 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 25 Jul 2015 05:32:45 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t6PBWjoS036346; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 05:32:45 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 05:32:45 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: CK cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Endless Data Loss In-Reply-To: <0MRCCJ-1ZUCcr1rAt-00UeQk@mail.gmx.com> Message-ID: References: <0MRCCJ-1ZUCcr1rAt-00UeQk@mail.gmx.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 25 Jul 2015 05:32:45 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 11:32:53 -0000 On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, CK wrote: > PS. One thing I notice is that if I ever ensure correct permissions > of the .sujournal files, but setting them to the same values that > they already have, upon reboot I get an error message to the effect > "timestamp on journal doesn't match last mount time", and then there > is a fallback to a full fsck, most always followed by some cleared > inodes and file loss. Helpful hint or not, I don't know. Step 1: stop using SUJ, soft updates journaling. Switch to just soft updates. This can be done from single user mode with 'tunefs -j disable'. As far as the rest, the description of what happens and when is not clear. Is the machine subject to sudden power loss? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 11:37:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C219AAC85 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 11:37:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f440::d144:5b3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D54B01F70 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 11:37:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AC2C93F773; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 07:36:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55B374D2.8040608@sneakertech.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 07:36:50 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CK CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Endless Data Loss References: <0MRCCJ-1ZUCcr1rAt-00UeQk@mail.gmx.com> In-Reply-To: <0MRCCJ-1ZUCcr1rAt-00UeQk@mail.gmx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 11:37:03 -0000 > it's happening on ATA drives, USB flash drives, > a few of each kind. So, it's definitely not a hardware problem. Well, that's not a guarantee if everything's connected to the same motherboard. Have you tried temporarily disconnecting all other drives and installing a fresh copy of the OS on a spare drive and seeing if the problem persists? It kinda sounds like part of the subsystem that flushes the disk cache is messed up or something. > FreeBSD forums blocks my access, possibly because I don't have a > high-speed connection, so I can't read the material there. I asked the list about this just recently. It turns out the forums now *require* either TLS 1.1 or 1.2. To complicate matters, some browsers that technically support this (FF 23-24, IE 8-10, OP 10-12, etc) have it disabled by default for some bizarre reason, requiring you to manually hunt through the settings to turn it on. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 11:42:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41939AAEA0 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 11:42:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A60FA1941 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 11:42:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 05F6E3F759; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 07:42:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55B37633.6000209@sneakertech.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 07:42:43 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CK CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SPAM from freebsd-questions References: <0MaJPk-1ZclO93RGK-00JoYf@mail.gmx.com> In-Reply-To: <0MaJPk-1ZclO93RGK-00JoYf@mail.gmx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 11:42:45 -0000 > I just posted about data loss, and got 3 spam emails from China > instantly. This has been going on for ages and people complain about it regularly with no result (you're like the 3rd person this month). >How is China finding out email addresses > of everyone that posts to freebsd-questions, They're subscribed just like anyone else is, they just reply to whatever is in the 'from' field. >and can the SPAM be > stopped? Technically the list maintainer(s) should really unsubscribe them, but that doesn't seem to be happening. Just set up a kill filter in your client. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 13:23:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB889AA67D for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:23:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E9FF1AFD for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:23:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-127.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.127]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8ACFE277DF; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 15:22:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t6PDMt3D001976; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 15:22:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 15:22:55 +0200 From: Polytropon To: CK Cc: Subject: Re: SPAM from freebsd-questions Message-Id: <20150725152255.648e2089.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <0MaJPk-1ZclO93RGK-00JoYf@mail.gmx.com> References: <0MaJPk-1ZclO93RGK-00JoYf@mail.gmx.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:23:04 -0000 On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 23:43:55 -0800, CK wrote: > I just posted about data loss, and got 3 spam emails from China > instantly. And when I posted 2 months ago or so, I got the same > spam emails from China. How is China finding out email addresses > of everyone that posts to freebsd-questions, and can the SPAM be > stopped? As it has been mentioned several times already, those messages are auto-reply messages. The originator probably has subscribed to the list, or maybe is incorporating the addresses from the web mirror(s) of the list. Note that this is a _public_ list, and the automated replies are being received offlist. The easiest way to deal with them is either manually deleting them, or writing a simple delete rule in your MUA or MDA (so you don't even receive them). Of course you could also try to write a polite note to the originator, but... you'll probably only get another auto-reply. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 13:31:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73B79AA7D7 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:31:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB8E41DF0; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:31:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-127.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.127]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B04E924A0E; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 15:31:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t6PDVMKe001985; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 15:31:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 15:31:22 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Matthew Seaman Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "CK" Subject: Re: Endless Data Loss Message-Id: <20150725153122.19a57c15.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <55B34B09.3010106@FreeBSD.org> References: <0MRCCJ-1ZUCcr1rAt-00UeQk@mail.gmx.com> <55B34B09.3010106@FreeBSD.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:31:26 -0000 On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:38:33 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 25/07/2015 08:33, CK wrote: > > In the last 2 years, I have upgraded from 4.11 to 9.2 then 9.3 > > releases, and since upgrading to the 9 series, I have experienced > > endless data loss - every time I reboot my computer, massive numbers > > of files vanish - 20 - 50 - a lot. And it's driving me crazy. > > I don't expect to get any fixes here, but something is wrong > > with the code - it's happening on ATA drives, USB flash drives, > > a few of each kind. So, it's definitely not a hardware problem. > > This is all on the same machine? If it's been in service since 4.11 > days, then it is ancient in computing terms. Don't disregard hardware > problems so quickly. It's not just hard drives that can have problems: > disk controllers, disk cabling, even failing power supplies can result > in these sort of symptoms. Still software problems aren't out of scope as well. In case the problem originates from damaged file systems - maybe when the system continues to run background_fsck and starts to work in an "unclean state" -, so running fsck _at least two times_ on all (!) involved media (unmounted!) should be a step taken, if possible from a live system (CD or DVD). I'm mentioning this because I've had encountered this strange behaviour in the past, too. Additionally, using smartctl to examine SMART-capable disks is important. But as you said: Checking cables, power supply, heat, RAM is important here. The observed loss of files could be a result from either (or many at once). However, the loss of files should be "covered" by some kind of message, usually from fsck "salvaging" inodes. If this is not the case, I assume background_fsck trying (and failing!) to repair a damaged file system could be the reason. This is because background_fsck cannot do all of the things that a regular fsck can do. Idea for solution: Add background_fsck="NO" to /etc/rc.conf and reboot. Let it do its work. Having to wait some minutes vs. losing files... well, the choice is easy. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 13:51:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB8F9AAB20 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:51:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF9DD15A8 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:51:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-127.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.127]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAFC124A0E; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 15:51:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t6PDpPR6002343; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 15:51:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 15:51:25 +0200 From: Polytropon To: parv@pair.com Cc: CK , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Forum access problem (was Re: Endless Data Loss) Message-Id: <20150725155125.24fde20a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150725090259.GA1943@holstein.holy.cow> References: <0MRCCJ-1ZUCcr1rAt-00UeQk@mail.gmx.com> <20150725090259.GA1943@holstein.holy.cow> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:51:28 -0000 On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 23:02:59 -1000, parv@pair.com wrote: > in message <0MRCCJ-1ZUCcr1rAt-00UeQk@mail.gmx.com>, > wrote CK thusly... > > > ... > > FreeBSD forums blocks my access, possibly because I don't have a > > high-speed connection, so I can't read the material there. > ... > > Most likely you have problems with SSL or security certificates. I > cannot access the forum via Opera 12.16 but have no problem with > Firefox 39. I've tried back and forth with Opera (version 11.50/1074 here). >From "about:config" with the search terms "tls" and "ssl" and through Tools -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Security... I just keep getting this "helpful" message: https://forums.freebsd.org/ Error Could not connect to remote server Check that the address is spelled correctly, or try searching for the site. Do I have to manually install some certificates, manually add a CA, or maybe disable one? Is there a known combination of settings that will work? Certificate revocation lists for ssl Crypto Method Overrides Enable SSL v3 Enable TLS v1.0 Enable TLS v1.1 Enable TLS v1.2 Minimum Security Level OCSP Validate Certificates Strict EV Mode I think those are the relevant settings. But how to actually set them so the FreeBSD forum will be pleased? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 16:23:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED66B9AA85A for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:23:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x22b.google.com (mail-ig0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAA6614CA for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:23:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: by igbpg9 with SMTP id pg9so39972282igb.0 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:23:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=9IBPNyy7n7G7YOrhthSa+4lqJodqD9R6wOCg63Rem6w=; b=PSf4DDOHsE4G8rjLRAtksmX3G9A/YKCHk+xPguZwzwfnphqEMdekRo6NGZsaQOLcJr RQWaFHimKIwIMr38C5qjRgwTcwvzz2eNGnXvFSmeuHOv8kmDYF+1VbF73MhireGSnjde /g8W2YCbxwAKbKHnjAm3kqRgSnEZKe2TfLFJEgTzW5DXSK7A+YuehGu/suH/5kG8LKue blqRZWQNN3zZJX30ZWkeAgr4K4SO0r8PJnf46yshswsOzwNLtW0H52k/MjK0zPPfJKDW r4jYsFnJV3cDpZXseGy8yokjvjwmYfwsnkupftuy1h+r01CLiawXM8EYoqK4kZCpBWLb Sl8A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.103.73 with SMTP id fu9mr6451276igb.46.1437841432102; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.74.130 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:23:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150725155125.24fde20a.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <0MRCCJ-1ZUCcr1rAt-00UeQk@mail.gmx.com> <20150725090259.GA1943@holstein.holy.cow> <20150725155125.24fde20a.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:23:51 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD Forum access problem (was Re: Endless Data Loss) From: jungle Boogie To: Polytropon Cc: parv@pair.com, CK , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:23:53 -0000 On 25 July 2015 at 06:51, Polytropon wrote: > I've tried back and forth with Opera (version 11.50/1074 here). > From "about:config" with the search terms "tls" and "ssl" and > through Tools -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Security... I just > keep getting this "helpful" message: > > https://forums.freebsd.org/ > > Error > > Could not connect to remote server > Check that the address is spelled correctly, > or try searching for the site. Can you access https://www.freebsd.org/ ? Both have a preferred cipher of TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 -- ------- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboogie@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boogie@jit.si From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 16:30:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694739AAAF1 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:30:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x229.google.com (mail-la0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2B531DF2 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:30:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by lafd3 with SMTP id d3so18600233laf.1 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:30:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=c1qr9TIWIAAOgQv7X9h9KMUk1RTeFkLAtrhAd5V1xUw=; b=ErsO7vKLXQwqp9Xv67dK1rMBDHuMqt21hNEbFgFcyfBWuFJMi8nvk7qZY9rgK7lNV6 +TJCsyTc4bUSxjdNcPmlOnvD/o8V60Y/6UNXIpKlrYD50Cb8sG/yS6z0F9sP4OfDW6/W 5FH8+FQzlIPSa+9u+spo6KlsY2ryL3gpRqTnaQaiyeXR44czJrM0vK2T1tJ7IS1bxG0f cWDgvY8nPKP1Fv9ABiq/1u1ImpHG8GyPOUQ8gv4PAjM0M0Vh0cFKM67O+3HGsaPANf+k 0+TNWnjT1sA138E+fdAa8yiuXr73kjQ8yQWGs+9K0Xyo7skwxoFvD2K5Hb9pPIJBFjwo vDVg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.161.197 with SMTP id xu5mr18987842lbb.69.1437841838096; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.152.45.5 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.45.5 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:30:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0MRCCJ-1ZUCcr1rAt-00UeQk@mail.gmx.com> References: <0MRCCJ-1ZUCcr1rAt-00UeQk@mail.gmx.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 18:30:38 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: CGcmB8QsGVGF2QzcLHmWNDmsmD0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Endless Data Loss From: CeDeROM To: CK Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:30:41 -0000 UFS2 SU+J has failed me several times as well. I also ocassionaly experienced root filesystem corruption that prevented valid boot. Even on a fresh install and new hardware I consider UFS2 SU+J unreliable.. I am not sure why this got into production :-( Performing forced fsck on a SU+J filesystem that was considered clean in J revealed inconsistency on fsck. Try to disable SU+J, maybe only J as mentioned in other reply. I will try that too. Try ZFS for good consistency. Or wait/force full fsck before system is up. Also, take a look at hard drive details - manufacturer and series (i.e. WD RED, BLACK, GREEN) - they can have totally different firmware with badblock correction that may cause troubles as well. Best regards :-) Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 16:42:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E381B9AACAF for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:42:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ramirocaso08@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qg0-x231.google.com (mail-qg0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4EC12C5 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:42:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ramirocaso08@gmail.com) Received: by qgii95 with SMTP id i95so27091603qgi.2 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:42:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GvwAAKwToaYi5itZ/xDj1FhGbmBglpmWOwsEtV6mNzM=; b=eKfXFt6ATZ2WImaP3l+acYSV6haokhPLJaonKv7de9MqCuYU8czQLMc6F8IEVGBbmg N/FF5Lv7ukUIycF/+KgCH2fD3J3Po+9GKzjTMEDZ2gl8ZDIqi8BivKwvLkJUVewFF1Dz v1U48JeNvLEVRRzMprhEOYfBVvxj66W/m+KOYulgNAs1WWLQSr63+tH1kTPA6bsPYOzD 4veFq5RBpk1SwytsVIX+gu7ecAWd4Sz43uswe72o2fxU1Tt+4Ev8bTS6HiRPL8lkpfUG vdNnQJqibg8KBG+ALN3jUzFrkoEqLeRtCbmK8jJv/vQ9aIlIrRiDJFBKU0yRT6ooRgaK B5Ww== X-Received: by 10.140.147.14 with SMTP id 14mr30374451qht.97.1437842540592; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:42:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([186.22.126.147]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id d10sm5875708qhc.9.2015.07.25.09.42.18 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:42:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55B3BC68.2020705@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:42:16 -0300 From: Ramiro Caso User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ulpt problems. References: <55B0BE81.70208@bananmonarki.se> <884706.24465.bm@smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <55B1A2D3.9040707@bananmonarki.se> <55B217F6.1000603@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <55B217F6.1000603@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:42:22 -0000 Here's how far I got (I have a working printer without ulpt and with cups). On 24/07/2015 07:48, Bernt Hansson wrote: > On 2015-07-24 05:37, Warren Block wrote: >> On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> >>> It seems that one needs ulpt, otherwise the printer isn't found. >>> So I added to /boot/loader.conf ulpt_load="YES" then the printer is >>> found by cups and hplip. >>> In order to use a printer with cups and ugen instead of ulpt, you have to put some rules in devfs.rules, something like: add path 'usb*' mode 0770 group cups add path 'ugen*' mode 0660 group cups add path 'usb/4.3.*' mode 0660 group cups Where 4.3 is where the printer appears (just running usbconfig tells you where that is). Maybe the rules are redundant, I don't recall anymore, but again it worked for me. These rules give cups access to the printer device. >>> But I do not want to use cups so I deinstalled it. Cups can't print >>> a testpage so I resorted to lpd. >>> Which can't print anything, so back to cups that too can't print >>> anything. So I'm stuck. >> >> The ulpt module is loaded by /etc/devd/usb.conf. The file says >> "please do not edit", and I don't know how those modules are disabled. >> You have to create a configuration file for devd under /usr/local/etc. What I did is to copy the entries in usb.conf that load the ulpt module into this new file, change the priority to something higher than 32, and change the action from "kldload -n ulpt" to a trivial action, "true". I think there is a better, non hackish thing to do, but it worked for me. >>> Printer is HP laserjet P2055d >> >> That printer supports PostScript directly, so following the LPD setup >> in the Handbook is the easiest course. Deinstall CUPS first, because >> it has not-quite-compatible commands with the same names as the real >> ones. >> >> If the printer has a network interface, that is the preferred >> connection. But USB will work, too. >> >> > Now that it finds the printer it's not printing anything with cups or > lpd. > I'm using apsfilter and lpd. Hplip is deinstalled so is cups. But no > cigar. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 17:45:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240389AB558 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 17:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 029AF1DBE for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 17:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4E1C83F778 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:45:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55B3CB2B.8030509@sneakertech.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:45:15 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD Forum access problem (was Re: Endless Data Loss) References: <0MRCCJ-1ZUCcr1rAt-00UeQk@mail.gmx.com> <20150725090259.GA1943@holstein.holy.cow> <20150725155125.24fde20a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 17:45:19 -0000 On 2015-07-25 12:23 PM, jungle Boogie wrote: > On 25 July 2015 at 06:51, Polytropon wrote: >> I've tried back and forth with Opera (version 11.50/1074 here). >> From "about:config" with the search terms "tls" and "ssl" and >> through Tools -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Security... I just >> keep getting this "helpful" message: >> >> https://forums.freebsd.org/ >> >> Error >> >> Could not connect to remote server >> Check that the address is spelled correctly, >> or try searching for the site. > > > Can you access https://www.freebsd.org/ ? > > Both have a preferred cipher of TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 That won't tell him much. The main freebsd.org site might use the same cipher but it doesn't have the TLS thing going on, it can be accessed by any browser no matter the settings. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 18:03:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1DA9AB7B9 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 18:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0823F7E8 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 18:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-127.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.127]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B15C276B3; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 20:03:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t6PI3hWl002504; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 20:03:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 20:03:43 +0200 From: Polytropon To: jungle Boogie Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD Forum access problem (was Re: Endless Data Loss) Message-Id: <20150725200343.63ab6465.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <0MRCCJ-1ZUCcr1rAt-00UeQk@mail.gmx.com> <20150725090259.GA1943@holstein.holy.cow> <20150725155125.24fde20a.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 18:03:47 -0000 On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:23:51 -0700, jungle Boogie wrote: > On 25 July 2015 at 06:51, Polytropon wrote: > > I've tried back and forth with Opera (version 11.50/1074 here). > > From "about:config" with the search terms "tls" and "ssl" and > > through Tools -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Security... I just > > keep getting this "helpful" message: > > > > https://forums.freebsd.org/ > > > > Error > > > > Could not connect to remote server > > Check that the address is spelled correctly, > > or try searching for the site. > > > Can you access https://www.freebsd.org/ ? Yes, that page never stopped working. > Both have a preferred cipher of TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 Interesting... so what's the significant difference here? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 18:56:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E701F9ABE1C for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 18:56:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x229.google.com (mail-ig0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA6FB1FF2 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 18:56:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: by igk11 with SMTP id 11so25977466igk.1 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 11:56:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=1s76XO4NhlliTBqE+nz0cZc+Q+9EL29G7PjBvEZzco8=; b=p+Gotja1526of+kZ+HoE69AjtfI2Y+y3k1YgWk6ynjHe1SmbxhKBgigtLUoqWLFuun Y6WKTayWcNxpttXUspbbbmcPseyvD8AZdFC/qxr6ZLcTY0+woHEBoTpHEaTefiuzVzTu CibYra5Gddu6WomnoFIoay7TR6Zd/VhiI9EslfSBlC0d79UaxPYXqrUBHBBw6CwuB46f 5xVjSaNI9DBcuYKEkWIx4hN1kOWYZ0Aj3QBqzbkTxtrqnpCqUHooC1RZU057UB91uNW1 D96d89F4EU9Azmf/fMDV0guQg39owoFAu1uMorxNG2PkbOii8xbgYDiea2b8CaQShg0e KE1w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.27.195 with SMTP id b186mr30335091iob.140.1437850616064; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 11:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.38.133 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 11:56:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <0MRCCJ-1ZUCcr1rAt-00UeQk@mail.gmx.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 11:56:55 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Endless Data Loss From: Adrian Chadd To: CeDeROM Cc: CK , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 18:56:57 -0000 I've had the opposite experience - after the last couple rounds of fixes in -HEAD, I've had zero issues with SU+J on all my -HEAD laptops/desktops. (And yes, I kernel panic the laptops frequently..) -adrian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 20:22:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C79299AADA3 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 20:22:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f178.google.com (mail-ie0-f178.google.com [209.85.223.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9CB0E1201 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 20:22:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by iecri3 with SMTP id ri3so40567435iec.2 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:22:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=references:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type; bh=sz+Oe1zN+HeeHx28d8vjue/wE39QMQGTaOPFzcZ3DYs=; b=TPIn5uBDtiH470eYasL3+M44/TJQZ80N1w5owIpEctM3fG9cjL6+bFcYGNoGDj95Z4 lqCUYXp+w2AKYAdjYg5Gb1daCjK+p89BhQx9MOfa+khT08tBV8YIJ0R11ounOQbKa6OJ t6o2/7RSwOdk26WAYNqZI20lwcu+P9ivO4fy1XuDdz8PQ/THL6OTg58cpK/mCTiTOYCQ /WFLhk/CWZxvJW42Zxj1j2D0syCrL82lIldC/Tr64GxRs5iSIXpT1r20kdh6tNC2TGgq /9qasX7Ymw81FznhBa5MCFx2dtb/TOLDxghrPPfk2ouphN4t0DzmfZTziOxK307CrIWd Qjog== X-Received: by 10.107.137.42 with SMTP id l42mr32695486iod.150.1437855766667; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WorkBox.Home.gmail.com (97-116-179-18.mpls.qwest.net. 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