From owner-freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Tue Dec 8 16:13:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-translators@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E349D422C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 16:13:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raycherng@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22b.google.com (mail-io0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97E7D1BBC for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 16:13:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raycherng@gmail.com) Received: by ioir85 with SMTP id r85so29083572ioi.1 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 08:13:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/3dfxXcZdJI5Zv/5gcky4YMtLFSTlQTz0k9t8vuo/dM=; b=cXbEzEcTXW5bsWVYuux9yVNYdz6RymomR3hUgpNHFceNXGkQWCY40a15kR7g9LOvSq HZ0VPgdWsfzVtpt6XsjhIeoc1Mw+qZPny9YArv9m+3uLsg1qz2ZcnwD2StCJtPpF2kqA UKtrga4lf+fjIJ8/BZKRDeSuRQbksHM0iqKZYVgsiuqrBzSNCyPSxhVXrJNXWXC7cGkA uP5GT5ZOYbjQZFrl8yD+qaYfyWFmWB/seKoBRI7tWQMzvvjOJAUrYZT8PspwMp6VF5qS BIt9JcA0+jriN33YgPWFQzqIXw9K2XvWcO/CrFXVLDkRWGcLL1GCiNE+kTvItJ5NvZtZ vA5Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.47.66 with SMTP id j63mr646096ioo.168.1449591197012; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 08:13:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.107.51.213 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 08:13:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 00:13:16 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: How to update the directory structure of porters-handbook in zh_TW From: RayCherng Yu To: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Translators List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 16:13:18 -0000 The porters handbook in zh_TW is outdated. I want to start to update it. But I found a problem.... In doc/zh_TW.UTF-8/books/porters-handbook, there are only two files (Makefile and book.xml ). But in English version, there are a lot of directories, like the handbook in zh_TW. How do I update the directory structure? If it need update all the files and directories, I want to reserve the outdated Chinese translation for reference. Thanks. --=20 "Life is like a snowball. The important thing is finding wet snow and a really long hill." "Price is what you pay. Value is what you get."Makefile book.xml "The first rule of Investing is don't lose money; the second rule is don't forget rule #1..." "Wall Street is the only place that people ride to work in a Rolls-Royce to get advice from those who take the subway..." =E2=80=94 Warren Buffett. From owner-freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 02:59:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-translators@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7CC69D5056 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 02:59:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D4FB1DBD for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 02:59:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id tB92wtFV021195 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Dec 2015 19:58:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id tB92wtSf021188; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 19:58:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 19:58:55 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: RayCherng Yu cc: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to update the directory structure of porters-handbook in zh_TW In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 08 Dec 2015 19:58:55 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Translators List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 02:59:03 -0000 On Wed, 9 Dec 2015, RayCherng Yu wrote: > The porters handbook in zh_TW is outdated. I want to start to update it. > But I found a problem.... > In doc/zh_TW.UTF-8/books/porters-handbook, there are only two files > (Makefile and book.xml). > But in English version, there are a lot of directories, like the handbook > in zh_TW. > How do I update the directory structure? > If it need update all the files and directories, I want to reserve the > outdated Chinese translation for reference. That particular translation appears to have not been worked on in a couple of years. I recommend using the PO system for any new translation work. New translations with the PO system will also be only one file. The English versions are split into separate chapter files for organization and ease of editing, but the PO translations do not need that. When 'make po' is run, it uses xmllint to "normalize" the XML document. All the chapters and entities are brought in and it makes one big file. No subdirectories are needed unless there are pictures. To keep the existing book.xml for reference, just rename it. Much of the original Makefile can be removed. There is an example in the PO Translation chapter of the FDP Primer, and we can certainly make suggestions here too. From owner-freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 05:35:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-translators@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28B39D4930 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 05:35:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raycherng@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x231.google.com (mail-io0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 743DE1556 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 05:35:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raycherng@gmail.com) Received: by iouu10 with SMTP id u10so49252554iou.0 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 21:35:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=trUq7xk7u/OfdeyYcEQGvZf1KWvb5wf79MyWfjdlFeo=; b=pDDqR2CzVTzhu/y6c08K7vbjfMuYEHLpj/F5RJgKGkdaVKTIWcx77o1KzQA6JZjX1c PDSiXKZkEFvJXhX7bARn2vQVtXkj3fP0kFuiq+AiQmZ+iiAHsi5sPRJVGE+VU9o3Vku2 ib3aFIZy+CBpQebFllQIYnu/xFPRZ7PRRFCQv9AeAJGV1nZbwcILyJVbO1f3xZ8hw9mS HB6+VU5YvkQTVpjn9V1p0QJFRBAvqGw7TfqLL1jtCTHTr99NoFYWtNkkIPtTqH/6t/vB oqyQNcZc64NvgsxvJ5YY8flGDU+mPAST48c2RHPUyBAEkpIwxm/csjlBsQsg/w3+YNqM z1eQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.162.68 with SMTP id l65mr3469059ioe.179.1449639350834; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 21:35:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.107.51.213 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 21:35:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 13:35:50 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to update the directory structure of porters-handbook in zh_TW From: RayCherng Yu To: Warren Block , freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Translators List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 05:35:51 -0000 Sorry I forgot to reply to all..... 2015-12-09 13:25 GMT+08:00 Warren Block : > On Wed, 9 Dec 2015, RayCherng Yu wrote: > > So I can delete or rename these two files and run "make po" to start a ne= w >> work. >> > > The Makefile is necessary. A PO translation Makefile can be a lot simple= r > than the English one. > > So I delete only book.xml and let Makefile left? > Where should I backup these two files? Only in my laptop? Or Can I rename >> them, make diff and submit it to the doc repository to backup in the ser= ver >> that everyone could access it? >> > > It is not necessary. If anyone ever needs them, they can check them out > of the repository, specifying that particular revision. > > How to access the previous revision? Thanks > > 2015-12-09 10:58 GMT+08:00 Warren Block : >> On Wed, 9 Dec 2015, RayCherng Yu wrote: >> >> The porters handbook in zh_TW is outdated. I want to start t= o >> update it. >> But I found a problem.... >> In doc/zh_TW.UTF-8/books/porters-handbook, there are only tw= o >> files >> (Makefile and book.xml). >> But in English version, there are a lot of directories, like >> the handbook >> in zh_TW. >> How do I update the directory structure? >> If it need update all the files and directories, I want to >> reserve the >> outdated Chinese translation for reference. >> >> >> That particular translation appears to have not been worked on in = a >> couple of years. I recommend using the PO system for any new translatio= n >> work. >> >> New translations with the PO system will also be only one file. >> The English versions are split into separate chapter files for organizat= ion >> and ease of editing, but the PO >> translations do not need that. When 'make po' is run, it uses >> xmllint to "normalize" the XML document. All the chapters and entities = are >> brought in and it makes one big >> file. >> >> No subdirectories are needed unless there are pictures. >> >> To keep the existing book.xml for reference, just rename it. >> >> Much of the original Makefile can be removed. There is an example >> in the PO Translation chapter of the FDP Primer, and we can certainly ma= ke >> suggestions here too. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> "Life is like a snowball. The important thing is finding wet snow and a >> really long hill." >> >> "Price is what you pay. Value is what you get." >> >> "The first rule of Investing is don't lose money; the second rule is >> don't forget rule #1..." >> >> "Wall Street is the only place that people ride to work in a Rolls-Royce >> to get advice from those who take the subway..." >> >> >> =E2=80=94 Warren Buffett. >> >> --=20 "Life is like a snowball. The important thing is finding wet snow and a really long hill." "Price is what you pay. Value is what you get." "The first rule of Investing is don't lose money; the second rule is don't forget rule #1..." "Wall Street is the only place that people ride to work in a Rolls-Royce to get advice from those who take the subway..." =E2=80=94 Warren Buffett. From owner-freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Wed Dec 9 19:33:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-translators@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274399D6C46 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 19:33:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D37B2107F for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 19:33:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id tB9JXTF8076908 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 9 Dec 2015 12:33:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id tB9JXT31076905; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 12:33:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 12:33:29 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: RayCherng Yu cc: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to update the directory structure of porters-handbook in zh_TW In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 09 Dec 2015 12:33:30 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Translators List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 19:33:32 -0000 On Wed, 9 Dec 2015, RayCherng Yu wrote: > 2015-12-09 13:25 GMT+08:00 Warren Block : > On Wed, 9 Dec 2015, RayCherng Yu wrote: > > So I can delete or rename these two files and run "make po" to start a new work. > > > The Makefile is necessary.  A PO translation Makefile can be a lot simpler than the English one. > > > So I delete only book.xml and let Makefile left? Right, although the Makefile will probably need to be edited. See https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/po-translations-creating.html#po-translations-creating-example Mostly it consists of removing things that do not apply to the PO translations. For example, the long list of SRCS in the English version's Makefile can be reduced to just one, book.xml.   > Where should I backup these two files? Only in my laptop? Or Can I rename them, make diff and submit it to the doc repository to backup in the server that > everyone could access it? > > > It is not necessary.  If anyone ever needs them, they can check them out of the repository, specifying that particular revision. > > > How to access the previous revision? To check out revision 47831 to /tmp/porters-handbook: svn checkout -r 47831 https://svn.FreeBSD.org/doc/head/zh_TW.UTF-8/books/porters-handbook /tmp/porters-handbook From owner-freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 01:38:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-translators@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348A29D6480 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 01:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raycherng@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x232.google.com (mail-io0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0481F1F40 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 01:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raycherng@gmail.com) Received: by iouu10 with SMTP id u10so81423103iou.0 for ; Wed, 09 Dec 2015 17:38:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=sIC/wwQymyIV3QM1EZUmKzdNnYBn8B8TC+ZRLGcxq88=; b=BQHrWA5TLk3RTVXDljwl+ytL2ONSg4VGwAdVPybsptqdsyIYrX8ueLUotBUiUOyg0v QdQIHU5WDUtSNbH+Ns0iVH6U3c2lE9ps+UT848yTP86XxV0XLpOWAf3CcFUNISDvHvd1 bYN+h1IL+MT0YlDMTkt8gBhD6r68xQx/kwUmrj/xW+0dVk0ZqlOi1rp0lVo6AdtbXFQZ 7KN2OV1ZeBUodE95D0jydsNDIEfwfmSTPyXM7DsqmKJSZlxL518V1NvC8hqr4e1TNOft A+Dy1MvIF7GRd49bT7nLyn4Iuqx83teunG6HFeMWK3Bm34PcBvmurlO0pD47ZzNuU7Uw ny9g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.47.66 with SMTP id j63mr8445826ioo.168.1449711481231; Wed, 09 Dec 2015 17:38:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.107.51.213 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 17:38:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 09:38:01 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to update the directory structure of porters-handbook in zh_TW From: RayCherng Yu To: Warren Block Cc: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Translators List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 01:38:02 -0000 May I use thees_ES.ISO8859-1 Makefile in the example as a new one in zh_TW.UTF-8 and delete the old Makefile? I think it is the easy way.... 2015-12-10 3:33 GMT+08:00 Warren Block : > On Wed, 9 Dec 2015, RayCherng Yu wrote: > > 2015-12-09 13:25 GMT+08:00 Warren Block : >> On Wed, 9 Dec 2015, RayCherng Yu wrote: >> >> So I can delete or rename these two files and run "make po" >> to start a new work. >> >> >> The Makefile is necessary. A PO translation Makefile can be a lot >> simpler than the English one. >> >> >> So I delete only book.xml and let Makefile left? >> > > Right, although the Makefile will probably need to be edited. See > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/po-translati= ons-creating.html#po-translations-creating-example > > Mostly it consists of removing things that do not apply to the PO > translations. For example, the long list of SRCS in the English version'= s > Makefile can be reduced to just one, book.xml. > > >> Where should I backup these two files? Only in my laptop? Or >> Can I rename them, make diff and submit it to the doc repository to back= up >> in the server that >> everyone could access it? >> >> >> It is not necessary. If anyone ever needs them, they can check >> them out of the repository, specifying that particular revision. >> >> >> How to access the previous revision? >> > > To check out revision 47831 to /tmp/porters-handbook: > > svn checkout -r 47831 > https://svn.FreeBSD.org/doc/head/zh_TW.UTF-8/books/porters-handbook > /tmp/porters-handbook --=20 "Life is like a snowball. The important thing is finding wet snow and a really long hill." "Price is what you pay. Value is what you get." "The first rule of Investing is don't lose money; the second rule is don't forget rule #1..." "Wall Street is the only place that people ride to work in a Rolls-Royce to get advice from those who take the subway..." =E2=80=94 Warren Buffett. From owner-freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 03:14:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-translators@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D8F9D6C29 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 03:14:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3407318D1 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 03:14:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id tBA3EU2C000141 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 9 Dec 2015 20:14:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id tBA3EUtB000138; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 20:14:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 20:14:30 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: RayCherng Yu cc: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to update the directory structure of porters-handbook in zh_TW In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 09 Dec 2015 20:14:30 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Translators List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 03:14:38 -0000 On Thu, 10 Dec 2015, RayCherng Yu wrote: > May I use thees_ES.ISO8859-1 Makefile in the example as a new one in zh_TW.UTF-8 and delete the old Makefile? > I think it is the easy way.... When I set that up, it was meant to be an example. So yes. :) From owner-freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 10:05:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-translators@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA7E9D6843 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 10:05:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raycherng@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22f.google.com (mail-io0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B1DC15CA for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 10:05:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raycherng@gmail.com) Received: by iofh3 with SMTP id h3so87025452iof.3 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 02:05:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=3z5h8zyb9OfU/ERS11wUfddOaFaNoRYRxgvVekvXbP0=; b=kKoOvzjWwx9bGhQxFV8T4/OOti7CdX2JAlpYwW/bxJnrAuJtXOzLsssj07mcGYdRZf k3Tt7f0y4242klEIziKVEyUHoaLi3Xu5gGkfB01p0+ugVP/gQf+MXC2Pco8fnNVNeRxI QtWmOdIpt1U9QaCVV3X7dB2tCiImuzOgl+0S3faLmZ7rnYInOa9lW3Fp3kPx4G9s95Xq EDxdIS7y3cCzfbyDq8tjDF4lQmloQYRyyK05lfOnkDIE6Mz2s1UI9WTe6OgJvBrGd8j5 ex6uAIz/aKO8t3hNznN9Id1L0vNez6SlpBqTKoTq4H5qqtg3bIUGTw+G60kkqRTpcJkU 3Ndw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.47.66 with SMTP id j63mr10147643ioo.168.1449741943437; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 02:05:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.107.51.213 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 02:05:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 18:05:43 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to update the directory structure of porters-handbook in zh_TW From: RayCherng Yu To: Warren Block Cc: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Translators List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 10:05:44 -0000 I submit the Makefile from spanish version to update the Traditional Chinese version. But my reviewer asked me "Is the SYMLINKS needed"? SYMLINKS=3D ${DESTDIR} index.html handbook.html Do we need this SYMLINKS ? The Makefile in Example 12.2 does not have this SYMLINK. 2015-12-10 11:14 GMT+08:00 Warren Block : > On Thu, 10 Dec 2015, RayCherng Yu wrote: > > May I use thees_ES.ISO8859-1 Makefile in the example as a new one in >> zh_TW.UTF-8 and delete the old Makefile? >> I think it is the easy way.... >> > > When I set that up, it was meant to be an example. So yes. :) > --=20 "Life is like a snowball. The important thing is finding wet snow and a really long hill." "Price is what you pay. Value is what you get." "The first rule of Investing is don't lose money; the second rule is don't forget rule #1..." "Wall Street is the only place that people ride to work in a Rolls-Royce to get advice from those who take the subway..." =E2=80=94 Warren Buffett. From owner-freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 13:52:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-translators@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD179D56FF for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 13:52:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3C2E196B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 13:52:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id tBADqUIA063850 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 10 Dec 2015 06:52:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id tBADqUmR063847; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 06:52:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 06:52:30 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: RayCherng Yu cc: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to update the directory structure of porters-handbook in zh_TW In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 10 Dec 2015 06:52:31 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Translators List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 13:52:33 -0000 On Thu, 10 Dec 2015, RayCherng Yu wrote: > I submit the Makefile from spanish version to update the Traditional Chinese version. > But my reviewer asked me "Is the SYMLINKS needed"? > > SYMLINKS= ${DESTDIR} index.html handbook.html > > Do we need this SYMLINKS ? No, probably not. All it does is create an alias, so a web browser can go to handbook.html in addition to index.html. In the English directory, that is only used in the Handbook and the Porter's Handbook, probably a cut and paste. I will remove it from the example. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 15:32:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-translators@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B62A9D7DFA for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:32:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raycherng@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x232.google.com (mail-io0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B3C11230 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:32:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raycherng@gmail.com) Received: by ioc74 with SMTP id 74so95592559ioc.2 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 07:32:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=O9m+OlzUK0jN2eCZmBM6TNNDTGhlpK6jhZOGhK4M/qM=; b=nIRAeJOKPaB8o81/Lu0il3jr0N318RDo16LJHchL5tuDnR8SSSeZAhHWUXzxzqYbTw 208hFDuNMIHu/Ze5vrQ7OGCqYzWexIseWTAvxqyXTG6aUcgLr7pVT3YbEc0TKnb/dwp1 HrlhUFSui/Ret8pro5Pp3ndPbvw0Xu/MxOKcOXVU+jY7Vg9zDYl/HzNWokERKOa3keWS LSllUxFotR+fQlitFUph3DRCF25ldb1RD9M1+Mduvi/S3w5Y9T7MtjJ9OBFP/yxGaSfR rPHZanGeHBtx00TsSaoQoN/r5teDx0VblcUhNWnZqRbQI4+l7+IWrrI4+J24cOvd2nuY g4MA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.162.68 with SMTP id l65mr11607370ioe.179.1449761563474; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 07:32:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.107.51.213 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 07:32:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 23:32:43 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to update the directory structure of porters-handbook in zh_TW From: RayCherng Yu To: Warren Block Cc: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Translators List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:32:44 -0000 I remove it,too. I update a new diff. What does the "IMAGES_LIB+=3D" mean? In my old Makefile, there are 1.png to 10.png but in the new Makefile, spanish version, there are 1.png to 21.png. 2015-12-10 21:52 GMT+08:00 Warren Block : > On Thu, 10 Dec 2015, RayCherng Yu wrote: > > I submit the Makefile from spanish version to update the Traditional >> Chinese version. >> But my reviewer asked me "Is the SYMLINKS needed"? >> >> SYMLINKS=3D ${DESTDIR} index.html handbook.html >> >> Do we need this SYMLINKS ? >> > > No, probably not. All it does is create an alias, so a web browser can g= o > to handbook.html in addition to index.html. In the English directory, th= at > is only used in the Handbook and the Porter's Handbook, probably a cut an= d > paste. > > I will remove it from the example. > > Thanks! > --=20 "Life is like a snowball. The important thing is finding wet snow and a really long hill." "Price is what you pay. Value is what you get." "The first rule of Investing is don't lose money; the second rule is don't forget rule #1..." "Wall Street is the only place that people ride to work in a Rolls-Royce to get advice from those who take the subway..." =E2=80=94 Warren Buffett. From owner-freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 15:42:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-translators@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A4F9D5669 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:42:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 864801ABF for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:42:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id tBAFg6Jj021132 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 10 Dec 2015 08:42:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id tBAFg5To021128; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 08:42:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 08:42:05 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: RayCherng Yu cc: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to update the directory structure of porters-handbook in zh_TW In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 10 Dec 2015 08:42:06 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Translators List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:42:07 -0000 On Thu, 10 Dec 2015, RayCherng Yu wrote: > I remove it,too. I update a new diff. > > What does the "IMAGES_LIB+=" mean? In my old Makefile, there are 1.png to 10.png but in the new Makefile, spanish version, there are 1.png to 21.png. IMAGES_LIB is used to point to the callout images. The current English Porter's Handbook security section uses these callout images: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/security-notify.html#security-notify-vuxml-db